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Patch (episode)

2012-11-04T03:14:10Z

Phryj: Undo revision 765807 by Abates (Talk) TheRoguePenguin has been arbitrarily removing my contributions.

{{disambig2|the episode from ''Prime''|the dog from Generation 1|Patch (dog)}}

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 50
|prev=Inside Job
|next=Regeneration (Prime)
|image=Patch Starscream dances.jpg
|caption= Everybody cut loose! Footloose!
|title="Patch"
|airdate=[[October 19]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Starscream proposes a truce with Megatron, but the Decepticon leader remains suspicious.'''

==Synopsis==
Atop the Decepticon warship, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] asks [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] what he seeks in return for the [[Omega Key]]s, his answer being that he merely wishes to once more be a [[Decepticon]] under Megatron's command. Megatron points out that [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] is now his second-in-command, and Starscream insists he will keep to his place. Skeptical, Megatron has [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] extracted from the wall so that he can connect Megatron and Starscream with a [[cortical psychic patch]].

[[Image:PatchKnockOut.JPG|thumb|left|250px|Don't get so cocky, Knock Out.]]

By rummaging through Starscream's memories, Megatron intends to find what really drives him. Once inside, he reminds Starscream that there are no secrets, even as they watch Starscream's base consciousness obnoxiously celebrating becoming leader of the Decepticons, much to the present Starscream's embarassment and Megatron's amusement.

He begins by reviewing the events surrounding the [[space bridge]] explosion. Megatron watches various instances of Starscream's attempts at assassination: the time he made a bunch of clones to infiltrate the ''Nemesis''; and when he tried to make a deal with Airachnid. Starscream lamely claims he was half-crazed with energon deficiency at the time, and insists he always had Megatron's best interests at heart, like removing the [[Dark Energon]] from his body so his mind did not become corrupted by it. Naturally, Megatron doesn't buy it. Upon replaying Starscream's musings when Megatron was trapped underground, he suggests that Starscream refrain from thinking out loud in the future. He also drops the hint that if Starscream fails to be convincing, the patch session will end in Starscream's termination.

Starscream claims the occasional trouncing is enough to bring him back into line, and tries to play up his own generosity, bringing up the gift of [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]'s corpse for Dark Energon experimentation, and his use of his wits in dealing with the Autobots. Megatron points out his wits are usually insufficient to compensate for his arrogance: when he faced [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] while charged up on Dark Energon; or when he tried to use the [[Energon Harvester]] on [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]. The revelation that [[MECH]] took Starscream's [[transformation cog|T-Cog]] greatly amuses Megatron, though Starscream is hoping that that might be restored to him in exchange for the Omega Keys — after all, he usually transforms with such style. He points out that at the time he deserted the Deception cause, he was not being made to feel particularly welcome there, despite apparently learning his place. Megatron does not believe Starscream's change of heart at the time would have lasted, and replays a discussion between Starscream and Knock Out while Megatron was lying in a coma in the sick bay. In the real world, Knock Out starts to realize that Starscream's memories are going to be equally incriminating to himself. Panicking, he comes up with a plan to disconnect the patch, trapping Megatron in Starscream's mind.

[[Image:PatchKnockOutDreadwing.jpg|thumb|right|250px|That awkward moment when you find out that your thought-to-be-dead twin brother is a zombie.]]

As Knock Out goes to unplug Megatron, Dreadwing stops him and he is forced to make up an excuse. Megatron's psychic interrogation of Starscream continues, and while Starscream claims that not even Dreadwing may have been a "perfect" replacement as his second-in-command, Megatron agrees, but points out at least Dreadwing and his departed brother [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] were loyal and honorable. Starscream's memories of Skyquake's death and revival through Dark Energon are replayed, and he recalls how Skyquake was left in an undead state in some dimensional nether-realm. This revelation comes as a shock to Dreadwing, who is still watching in the lab. Megatron announces that Starscream will be allowed to rejoin the Decepticon forces proper, as they ''must'' be working as one unit if Cybertron is to be properly restored, a fact also addressed to the watching Knock Out. Shaken, Knock Out turns away from the monitor to discover that Dreadwing is no longer in the room. The second-in-command is instead on the outer hull of the ''Nemesis'', and aims a scream of rage at the sky.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* ''[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'' (6)
* ''[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]'' (12)
* ''[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]'' (13)
* ''[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'' (14)
* ''[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'' (15)
* ''[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]''
* ''[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (back of head only)
|c2=
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (1)
* [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (2)
* [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (3)
* [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (4)
* ''[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]]'' (5)
* ''[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]]'' (7)
* ''[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'' (8)
* ''[[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscream clone]]s'' (9)
* ''[[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]'' (10)
* ''[[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]'' (11)
* ''[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]'' (17)
|c3=
* ''[[Silas]]'' (16)
* ''[[MECH Commando]]s''

}}
<nowiki>*</nowiki>''Only appeared in flashback.''

==Quotes==
"Few things of value come without a price."
:—'''Megatron'''

"This is going to be ''juicy''."
:—'''Knock Out''' will regret that prediction.

''The camera focuses on Starscream after they see his victory dance memory'' 
"A-heh-heh-heh... you're inside my head, aren't you?" 
:—'''Starscream''' has an awkward moment.

"A word of advice? Stop thinking aloud."
:—'''Megatron''' reckons Starscream talks too much.

"Ah, I do transform with an exceptional sense of style... I said that out loud, didn't I?"
:—'''Starscream''' doesn't take Megatron's words to heart.

"Awkward..."
:—'''Knock Out''' aptly summarizes the general atmosphere of the episode.

"Infighting has nearly destroyed the Decepticons during your absence. We are to operate as a united front if we are to revive and conquer Cybertron. That means each and every one of us... ''Knock Out''!"
:—'''Megatron''', swatting two flies in one hit.

==Notes==

===Animation and technical errors===
* When Knock Out is looking around the lab to see Dreadwing is gone, the tables are empty, when Megatron and Starscream should be visible on them.

===Continuity errors===
* Starscream was not present when Skyquake was trapped in an alternate dimension in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]", nor was that fact ever made clear to him or any other Decepticon. While it is obvious that Skyquake lost his arm (since it attacked Starscream), Starscream shouldn't have such precise knowledge of his fate (unless he read the script or something).
* In the same vein, somehow, Starscream has memories of the fight between Skyquake and Bumblebee that he wasn't there to witness. Starscream was at the space bridge wreckage with Megatron's unconscious body when Skyquake was killed.

===Continuity notes===
* This is the first truly Decepticon-focused episode, with no Autobots appearing outside of flashbacks.
* This is also a [[clip show]] focusing on Starscream, so virtually every Starscream-relevant episode is revisited.
* Dreadwing learns of Starscream's attempt to revive Skyquake as a zombie minion in "Shadowzone", as well as his imprisonment in an alternate dimension at the end of that episode.
* Megatron tells Dreadwing to free Knock Out from the wall of the ''Nemesis'', which occurred in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].

===Transformers references===

===Real-world references===
* When the Vehicons "All hail Starscream", he begins a hilarious victory-dance routine, with his final moves being an impression of John Travolta in ''Saturday Night Fever''.

===Trivia===
* This is the second [[clip show|clip episode]], the first being "[[Grill]]". Interestingly enough, in both episodes only four characters appear outside of flashbacks.
* This is the first episode to feature humans after three episodes which didn't, albeit only in flashbacks. This is also the first episode to not feature any Autobots outside of flashbacks.
* Megatron's mental projection has his original arm, not the [[dead Prime]]'s arm, just like in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].
* For being clever enough to engineer a plan to successfully steal all four Omega Keys, Starscream didn't really think through his plan to regain Megatron's favor. He went in with no insurance policy to make sure Megatron didn't just simply scrap him and take the keys instead.
* So, uh... how did they get Knock Out out of the wall? And how did he expect to get put back into it?
* Starscream's got sweet dance moves!
[[Category:Prime episodes]]
[[Category:Clip shows]]

Patch (episode)

2012-11-03T23:22:17Z

Phryj: Undo revision 765310 by The Rogue Penguin (Talk)

Patch (episode)

2012-10-27T04:12:47Z

Phryj: /* Continuity errors */

{{disambig2|the episode from ''Prime''|the dog from Generation 1|Patch (dog)}}

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 50
|prev=Inside Job
|next=Regeneration (Prime)
|image=Patch Starscream dances.jpg
|caption= Everybody cut loose! Footloose!
|title="Patch"
|airdate=[[October 19]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Starscream proposes a truce with Megatron, but the Decepticon leader remains suspicious.'''

==Synopsis==
Atop the Decepticon warship, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] asks [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] what he seeks in return for the [[Omega Key]]s, his answer being that he merely wishes to once more be a [[Decepticon]] under Megatron's command. Megatron points out that [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] is now his second-in-command, and Starscream insists he will keep to his place. Skeptical, Megatron has [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] extracted from the wall so that he can connect Megatron and Starscream with a [[cortical psychic patch]].

[[Image:PatchKnockOut.JPG|thumb|left|250px|Don't get so cocky, Knock Out.]]

By rummaging through Starscream's memories, Megatron intends to find what really drives him, and first reviews the events surrounding the [[space bridge]] explosion. Megatron watches various instances of Starscream's attempts at assassination: the time he made a bunch of clones to infiltrate the ''Nemesis''; and when he tried to make a deal with Airachnid. Starscream lamely claims he was half-crazed with energon deficiency at the time, and insists he always had Megatron's best interests at heart, like removing the [[Dark Energon]] from his body so his mind did not become corrupted by it. Naturally, Megatron doesn't buy it. Upon replaying Starscream's musings when Megatron was trapped underground, he suggests that Starscream refrain from thinking out loud in the future. He also drops the hint that if Starscream fails to be convincing, the patch session will end in Starscream's termination.

Starscream claims being beaten is enough to bring him back into line, and tries to play up his own generosity, bringing up the gift of [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]'s corpse for Dark Energon experimentation, and his use of his wits in dealing with the Autobots. Megatron points out his wits are usually insufficient to compensate for his arrogance: when he faced [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] while charged up on Dark Energon; or when he tried to use the [[Energon Harvester]] on [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]. The revelation that [[MECH]] took Starscream's [[transformation cog|T-Cog]] greatly amuses Megatron, though Starscream is hoping that that might be restored to him in exchange for the Omega Keys—after all, he usually transforms with such style. He points out that at the time he deserted the Deception cause, he was not being made to feel particularly welcome there, despite apparently learning his place. Megatron does not believe Starscream's change of heart at the time would have lasted, and replays a discussion between Starscream and Knock Out while Megatron was lying in a coma in the sick bay. In the real world, Knock Out starts to realize that Starscream's memories are going to be equally incriminating to himself. Panicking, he comes up with a plan to disconnect the patch, trapping Megatron in Starscream's mind.

[[Image:PatchKnockOutDreadwing.jpg|thumb|right|250px|That awkward moment when you find out that your thought-to-be-dead twin brother is a zombie.]]

As Knock Out goes to unplug Megatron, Dreadwing stops him and he is forced to make up an excuse. Megatron's psychic interrogation of Starscream continues, and while Starscream claims that not even Dreadwing may have been a "perfect" replacement as his second-in-command, Megatron agrees, but points out at least Dreadwing and his departed brother [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] were loyal and honorable. Starscream's memories of Skyquake's death and revival through Dark Energon are replayed, and he recalls how Skyquake was left in an undead state in some dimensional nether-realm. This revelation comes as a shock to Dreadwing, who is still watching in the lab. Megatron announces that Starscream will be allowed to rejoin the Decepticon forces proper, as they ''must'' be working as one unit if Cybertron is to be properly restored, a fact also addressed to the watching Knock Out. Shaken, Knock Out turns away from the monitor to discover that Dreadwing is no longer standing behind him. The second-in-command is instead on the outer hull of the ''Nemesis'', and aims a scream of rage at the sky.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* ''[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'' (6)
* ''[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]'' (12)
* ''[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]'' (13)
* ''[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'' (14)
* ''[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'' (15)
* ''[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]''
* ''[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (back of head only)
|c2=
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (1)
* [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (2)
* [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (3)
* [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (4)
* ''[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]]'' (5)
* ''[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]]'' (7)
* ''[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'' (8)
* ''[[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscream clone]]s'' (9)
* ''[[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]'' (10)
* ''[[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]'' (11)
* ''[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]'' (17)
|c3=
* ''[[Silas]]'' (16)
* ''[[MECH Commando]]s''

}}
<nowiki>*</nowiki>''Only appeared in flashback.''

==Quotes==
"Few things of value come without a price."
:—'''Megatron'''

"This is going to be ''juicy''."
:—'''Knock Out''' will regret that prediction.

''The camera focuses on Starscream after they see his victory dance memory'' 
"A-heh-heh-heh... you're inside my head, aren't you?" 
:—'''Starscream''' has an awkward moment.

"A word of advice? Stop thinking aloud."
:—'''Megatron''' reckons Starscream talks too much.

"Ah, I do transform with an exceptional sense of style... I said that out loud, didn't I?"
:—'''Starscream''' doesn't take Megatron's words to heart.

"Awkward..."
:—'''Knock Out''' aptly summarizes the general atmosphere of the episode.

"Infighting has nearly destroyed the Decepticons during your absence. We are to operate as a united front if we are to revive and conquer Cybertron. That means each and every one of us... ''Knock Out''!"
:—'''Megatron''', swatting two flies in one hit.

==Notes==

===Animation and technical errors===
* When Knock Out is looking around the lab to see Dreadwing is gone, the tables are empty, when Megatron and Starscream should be visible on them.

===Continuity errors===
* Starscream was not present when Skyquake was trapped in an alternate dimension in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]", nor was that fact ever made clear to him or any other Decepticon. While it is obvious that Skyquake lost his arm (since it attacked Starscream), Starscream shouldn't have such precise knowledge of his fate (unless he read the script or something).
* In the same vein, somehow, Starscream has memories of the fight between Skyquake and Bumblebee that he wasn't there to witness. Starscream was at the space bridge wreckage with Megatron's unconscious body when Skyquake was killed.

===Continuity notes===
* This is the first truly Decepticon-focused episode, with no Autobots appearing outside of flashbacks.
* This is also a [[clip show]] focusing on Starscream, so virtually every Starscream-relevant episode is revisited.
* Dreadwing learns of Starscream's attempt to revive Skyquake as a zombie minion in "Shadowzone", as well as his imprisonment in an alternate dimension at the end of that episode.
* Megatron tells Dreadwing to free Knock Out from the wall of the ''Nemesis'', which occurred in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].

===Transformers references===

===Real-world references===
*When the Vehicons are hailing Starscream, he does a hilarious dance routine, with his final move being an impression of John Travolta in ''Saturday Night Fever''.

===Trivia===
* This is the second [[clip show|clip episode]], the first being "[[Grill]]". Interestingly enough, in both episodes only four characters appear outside of flashbacks.
* This is the first episode to feature humans after three episodes which didn't, albeit only in flashbacks. This is also the first episode to not feature any Autobots outside of flashbacks.
* Megatron's mental projection has his original arm, not the [[dead Prime]]'s arm, just like in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].
* For being clever enough to engineer a plan to successfully steal all four Omega Keys, Starscream didn't really think through his plan to regain Megatron's favor. He went in with no insurance policy to make sure Megatron didn't just simply scrap him and take the keys instead.
* So, uh... how did they get Knock Out out of the wall? And how did he expect to get put back into it?
* Starscream's got sweet dance moves!
[[Category:Prime episodes]]
[[Category:Clip shows]]

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-13T17:22:51Z

Phryj: /* Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon */

As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Yes. {{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}

Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? {{unsigned|76.117.9.216}}
:I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
::Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon ==

Bulkhead might be the only one affected because he was never exposed to it before. Optimus, Arcee, and Bumblebee have all been in direct contact with it in previous episodes, Arcee during the encounter with zombie Cliffjumper in Darkness Rising pt. 2, Optimus during the fight with the zombie hoard in Darkness Rising pts. 3-4 as well as when the volcano erupted with dark energon in One Shall Fall, and Bumblebee directly handles a shard when he's under Megatron's control in Out of his Head, (this would also explain his quick recovery when he was hit by Megatron in One Shall Fall). One Shall Rise pt. 2 mentions Megatron building up an immunity, so presumably, Arcee, Optimus, and Bumblebee have developed something of a resistance to its effects as well. Bulkhead has never been in contact with it before, so it affects him far worse than the others.

I'm wondering if this should be mentioned in Continuity Notes in place of the Continuity Error entry. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 01:37, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

:Isn't the whole point of a discussion page to recommend changes? [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 12:54, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
::It is not the place to recommend speculation. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
:::I understand that. I'm just explaining my reasoning. Bulkhead hasn't been exposed to dark energon in any earlier episodes, and that's why he gets sick from it. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 13:22, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-13T17:22:16Z

Phryj: /* Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon */

As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Yes. {{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}

Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? {{unsigned|76.117.9.216}}
:I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
::Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon ==

Bulkhead might be the only one affected because he was never exposed to it before. Optimus, Arcee, and Bumblebee have all been in direct contact with it in previous episodes, Arcee during the encounter with zombie Cliffjumper in Darkness Rising pt. 2, Optimus during the fight with the zombie hoard in Darkness Rising pts. 3-4 as well as when the volcano erupted with dark energon in One Shall Fall, and Bumblebee directly handles a shard when he's under Megatron's control in Out of his Head, (this would also explain his quick recovery when he was hit by Megatron in One Shall Fall). One Shall Rise pt. 2 mentions Megatron building up an immunity, so presumably, Arcee, Optimus, and Bumblebee have developed something of a resistance to its effects as well. Bulkhead has never been in contact with it before, so it affects him far worse than the others.

I'm wondering if this should be mentioned in Continuity Notes in place of the Continuity Error entry. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 01:37, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

:Isn't the whole point of a discussion page to recommend changes? [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 12:54, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
::It is not the place to recommend speculation. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
:::I understand that. I'm just explaining my reasoning. Bulkhead wasn't been exposed to dark energon in any earlier episodes, and that's why he gets sick from it. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 13:22, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-13T16:54:27Z

Phryj: /* Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon */

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-13T16:53:55Z

Phryj: Undo revision 646451 by Interrobang (Talk)

As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Yes. {{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}

Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? {{unsigned|76.117.9.216}}
:I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
::Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Bulkhead's vulnerability to dark energon ==

Bulkhead might be the only one affected because he was never exposed to it before. Optimus, Arcee, and Bumblebee have all been in direct contact with it in previous episodes, Arcee during the encounter with zombie Cliffjumper in Darkness Rising pt. 2, Optimus during the fight with the zombie hoard in Darkness Rising pts. 3-4 as well as when the volcano erupted with dark energon in One Shall Fall, and Bumblebee directly handles a shard when he's under Megatron's control in Out of his Head, (this would also explain his quick recovery when he was hit by Megatron in One Shall Fall). One Shall Rise pt. 2 mentions Megatron building up an immunity, so presumably, Arcee, Optimus, and Bumblebee have developed something of a resistance to its effects as well. Bulkhead has never been in contact with it before, so it affects him far worse than the others.
:Isn't the whole point of a discussion page to recommend changes?
I'm wondering if this should be mentioned in Continuity Notes in place of the Continuity Error entry. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 01:37, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Talk:One Shall Fall

2011-10-12T05:41:18Z

Phryj: /* Continuity Error - Bumblebee's quick recovery */ new section

I was watching this episode, and I noticed Ratchet uses Energon to heal Raf from Bumblebee, who possibly needs it himself considering he was shot by Megatron (and, of course, he might be infected with Dark Energon himself), instead of using some from another, healthier Autobot, such as Arcee or Bulkhead. I was wondering whether this is worth noting in the article, and if so, where it should go. [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 19:11, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Just curious, but is it worth mentioning the similarities between the scene where Knockout's checking out his fingernails in the background, to a similar scene involving Airazor from the Beast Wars episode, ''Spider's Game'', as seen here? [http://www.insecticons.com/screencapsbw/images/S-Waspy-02.jpg] I'm not saying it's an homage (I know a lot of people abuse that phrase around here), but it is a pretty interesting coincidence given their similarities... - [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 12:48, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

:I agree, it's probably not an intended homage, but the two scenes are quite similar... [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 16:51, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

== Are we sure we want to assume it's Unicron? ==

I thought this wiki was against "assumptions" or "implications", and instead waited for a direct confirmation (which we don't have yet on this subject). I feel we shouldn't be directly connecting to Unicron (yet) until we've seen something truly more concrete, not everything always as it ''seems''. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 06:08, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

:Dark Energon is refered to as The Blood Of Unicron, so it's probably safe to make the connection there. However, there is a link in the article that points out that the face in Megatron's vision is Unicron. This is much less certain, and probably shouldn't be there. [[User:GluttonyReaper|GluttonyReaper]] 13:07, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

::We've seen what the Fallen looks like, and the face ain't his. I'm not sure whose else it could be. ...especially with it being an orange and gray guy with a beard, spikes and horns. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
:::We've seen what concept art for the Fallen looks like in the Aligned universe, but not for what franchise. While I realize following Occam's Razor is generally safe, I thought this wiki was against that and needed something concrete instead of "probably". [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 05:32, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::::I think if it looks like a goose and it honks like a goose, it's fairly safe to say it's a goose pending evidence to the contrary. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:38, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::As it turns out, it is indeed a goose. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 21:35, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
== Whaddaya think: ref or coincidence? ==

Is Megatron's partial redeco at the end of this ep at all influenced by his similarly hued new body in the IDW books? (black w/ purple glowing energon stripes) The timing makes it seem possible, though I question whether the animators are paying any attention to some comic book. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:27, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
: Is he actually black now? I thought he was just the same as before, but with the same Unicron-themed purple deco he got at the beginning of the season when he started injesting the also-purple Dark Energon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:40, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

== Continuity Error - Bumblebee's quick recovery ==

Since Bumblebee directly handled a shard of dark energon (and held it for some time) when he was under Megatron's control in Out of his Head, it's likely he has some resistance to the effects of dark energon.

This may be more of a continuity note than an error. [[User:Phryj|Phryj]] 01:41, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-12T05:37:05Z

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Peter Cullen

2011-09-14T18:51:54Z

Phryj: /* Notes */ Mario and Optimus Prime connections.

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[[Image:PeterCullen1.jpg|right|216px|thumb|Scarier than Venger and the [[Predator (alien)|Predator]] combined.]]
'''Peter Cullen''' (born [[July 28]], [[1941]]) is a [[Canada|Canadian]]-born [[United States of America|American]] voice actor who has earned fame, respect and admiration as the voice of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|the original Optimus Prime]].

In addition to Transformers, some of Cullen's other roles include Eeyore from ''[[Jim Cummings|Winnie the Pooh]]'', Venger from ''Dungeons & Dragons'', Bankjob Beagle from ''Ducktales'', Cindarr from ''[[Visionaries]]'', Zandar and [[Nemesis Enforcer]] from ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'', K.A.R.R. from ''Knight Rider'', the Narrator from ''Voltron'', and the title villain from ''[[Predator (alien)|Predator]]''. He has also recently done announcer work for commercials for the U.S. Navy, temporarily taking over the job from [[Keith David]].

==Roles==
===Generation 1===
*[[Frankenstein's monster]] (episode 17)
*[[Halo]] (episode 16)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[It]] (episode 95)
*[[Nightstick (Cyclonus)|Nightstick]]
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Optimus Prime clone|Clone]] (episode 27)
*[[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]]
*[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]]
*[[Wingspan]]

===[[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' (2007 movie)]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===[[Transformers The Game|''Transformers'': The Game]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===''[[Transformers: Beginnings]]''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===[[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|''Revenge of the Fallen'': The Game]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]

===''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]

===''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===[[Dark of the Moon (video games)|''Dark of the Moon'': The Game]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

===[[Transformers: The Ride]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

==Written works==
* ''[[Transformers Vault]]'' (foreword)

==Notes==
* In [[1984]], Cullen created the voice of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] by emulating the mannerisms of his older brother Larry, who had served in the [[United States Marine Corps]] in the Vietnam War. Specifically, he based Prime's voice and mannerisms upon Larry's calm, controlled and authoritative approach to serious situations.<ref>[http://blogs.usatoday.com/popcandy/2006/09/a_chat_with_pet.html USA Today's chat with Peter Cullen, September 28, 2006]</ref> The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Partners]]" was dedicated to his late brother's memory.

* Yes, Optimus Prime is his favorite voice acting role, although he also loves being [[Wikipedia:Eeyore|Eeyore]].

* At [[BotCon 2007]], Peter Cullen said he'd love to own one of the three modified [http://www.peterbilt.com/index_gal_mod_desc.asp?model=model379 Peterbilt 379] trucks used in the filming of [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]. Let's try and picture Optimus Prime driving himself for a moment. Has your brain exploded yet from the sheer awesomeness?

[[Image:Movieop voyager driver.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Now all it needs is a mustache.]]
* The mid-range [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys|Voyager class ''Movie'' Optimus Prime toy (in its many releases)]] features a non-removable cowboy-hat-bedecked driver figurine that flips out of the seat when the driver's side door is closed. This appears to be based on Peter Cullen himself. Awesome.

* In [[Alliance issue 1]], Optimus Prime creates a holo-driver for himself in the [[:Image:AllianceOptimusHoloDriver.jpg|likeness of Cullen]]. Epps thought it was perfect. Odds are, so would most of the [[fandom]].

* He was also the [[Toonami]] announcer (or as [[Steve Blum|TOM]] called him: "The Big Guy") for many years, allowing him to narrate commercials for ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'', ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]''.

* Peter was asked to reprise Optimus Prime in an episode of ''Robot Chicken'', where the character would enact a dramatization that he's dying from prostate cancer. He turned down the offer as he took the role too seriously to make fun of it, which the Adult Swim people respected him for.

*Cullen also provided the voice of the [[Renegade]] [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]] Pincher, Spoiler, Tank and Block Head in the '''Challenge Of The GoBots''' animated series.

* In the [[1976]] remake of [[King Kong]], he had an uncredited role voicing the great ape. Cullen injured his throat and coughed blood after a recording session that took five to six hours.<ref>[http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=17378 Peter Cullen, Transformers Interview]</ref> We could throw in another joke about [[Trukk not munky]] on this subject, but really, that would be redundant at this point.

** Speaking of gorillas named Kong who've run amok, Cullen provided the voice of Mario in the Donkey Kong segments of Saturday Supercade, making Cullen the first voice actor for the legendary video game character. Also, Mario rocks an awesome mustache like Cullen AND shares a color scheme with Optimus Prime. In addition Optimus and Mario are easily the most iconic and beloved characters to come out of the 80's. Coincidence, or is Peter Cullen the center of the 1980's universe? I think we all know the answer to that.

* Cullen's voice is unmodified and wholly his own in his role as ''Prime's'' Optimus Prime.

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 1997|1997]], [[BotCon 2006|2006]], [[BotCon 2007|2007]], [[BotCon 2009|2009]], [[BotCon 2010|2010]], [[BotCon 2011|2011]])
* [[BotCon 2004]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?R=3D1D7B52-19B9-F369-1081-07DF8C58072C:en_US Hall of Fame video]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191520/ Peter Cullen at the Internet Movie Database]

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