Talk:The Transformers (toyline)

2013-05-28T13:54:01Z

Pittstop: /* Same Characters. */ new section

==Lists turned sideways, upside down, inside out==
This whole thing with the columnated lists looks ''terrible''. A bulleted list needs to be longer than its width to read easily. Having three bulleted names sit side-by-side looks ridiculous (see the Insecticons listing, for example) and is harder to read. It ''breaks'' the association and continuity between the names, rather than enhancing it, and for what? In the name of "getting rid of white space"? Uh... white space is free! Unlimited! It costs us nothing! Extra vertical scrolling? Please. The page is going to be huge no matter what. Having to hit the space bar 22 times instead of 20 times is a small price to pay for ''legibility''. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 09:43, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, looking at it in IE (which doesn't support multiple-column lists) it looks fine and the lists are much more readable to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:20, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
::Maybe, if people don't want to have to scroll so much but also don't want the current weird-looking lists, we could use tables, e.g.

{|
| valign="top" width="300" | '''[[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]'''
* [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]
* [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]
* [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]

'''[[Insecticon (G1)|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''
* [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]]
* [[Chop Shop]]
* [[Ransack (G1)|Ransack]]
* [[Venom (G1)|Venom]]
| valign="top" width="300" | '''[[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]'''
* [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]
* [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]]
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]
* [[Hook (G1)|Hook]]
* [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
* [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (giftset)

'''[[Triple Changer]]s'''
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]
| valign="top" width="300" | '''Decepticon [[Seeker (body-type)|Planes]]'''
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]

'''Decepticon Military Operations Commander'''
*[[Shockwave (G1)/toys|Shockwave]]
|}
--[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 11:55, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

:::I like this layout. Can I run with it? Please? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 21:43, 12 August 2012 (EDT)
::::Sure! --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 03:59, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

== Japanese lines ==

Should there be central hub page for the Japanese G1 lines or are the individual pages enough? I ask because a central page could be added to the navigation box more easily than the multiple pages. I have also proposed adding [[Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)]] to the nav box over on its [[Talk: Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)|talk page]]. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:43, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
:I've added China to the nav-box and I've mocked up a central page for the Japanese mini-franchises at [[User: Khajidha/sandbox]]. I'd like to hear any input. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:18, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

==Not exactly "North America"==
Right now it's only got info on the U.S. line. Needs stuff on those weird Mexican releases, as well as the late G1/G2 transition stuff being available in Canada... [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 23:21, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

==First Transformers toy?==
Does anyone know what was the first original toy created for ''The Transformers'' toyline? After Hasbro / Takara exhausted their supply of ''Microman'' and ''Diaclone'' and unreleased prototypes like ''Scramble City''...what was the first toy designed from the start to be a Transformers figure? Would it be the TFTM molds? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:44, 7 June 2010 (EDT)
:Yes, the movie characters. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:13, 7 June 2010 (EDT)

== Time Warrior ==

Should [[Time Warrior]] be listed on this page? [[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 08:14, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
:I'd say no. Time Warrior strikes me more as merchandising than as a true part of the toyline. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:02, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

== Same Characters. ==

The main article claims Goldbug was the first character to clearly be a new figure for an existing character, however Goldbug was released in 1987, a whole year after figures such as Rodimus Prime (same character as Hot Rod), Galvatron (same character as Megatron), Cyclonus and Scourge (both reformatted characters). While it can be argued the Tech Spec and advertising for Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge makes no mention of their previous incarnations, Rodimus' did.

Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

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