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:''Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] leader from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[File:PrimeMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|"What happened to my [[fusion cannon]]?"]]
The awesomely powerful '''Megatron''' is, in many ways, a fallen hero. He rose up from the oppressed lower working castes of [[Kaon]] to become a champion in the region's illegal [[gladiatorial combat|deathmatches]], cast aside his designation of '''D-16''' and took the legendary name '''[[Megatronus (WFC)|Megatronus]]'''<ref>Megatron was an abbreviation, so it'd be easier for the masses to chant his name; ''Transformers: Exodus'', Chapter 3</ref> as his own. He called for an end to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s decrepit [[caste system]] and told the downtrodden that freedom of self-determination was the right of all sentient beings!

But absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Megatron's Decepticon revolution, like many such movements, ended up becoming a whole new tyranny. Powerful, charismatic, violent, and full of rage for any who would stand in the way of his ambition and drive, Megatron brought Cybertron ''past'' the brink of destruction. Now he and his former brother-in-arms [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] fight on other worlds. Megatron will never forgive Optimus for "betraying" him, stealing from the Council the rank of Prime which was rightfully his. He has reserved for his old friend the greatest honor possible: glorious death at his hands.

Megatron has been gone for three years, but now he's returned. He's brought the monstrous [[Dark Energon]] to Earth, and quite possibly left his sanity in space.

{{quote|Good and evil fade away. History shall judge me... ''victorious''.|Megatron rejects all moral judgement on his actions|[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures|Cybertron Adventures, The Ending Begins]]}}
{{quote|I... am the Dominator, I... am the Destroyer, I am '''Megatron!'''|Megatron|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
[[File:WFCcomicD16.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"Alright! What's the square root of pi?! What's the capital of Sierre Leone?! What's... awww, this 'ask questions later' thing doesn't work at ''all''."]]
Megatron nicknamed himself D-16 after the sector of the mine where he performed demolition operations. As a gladiator, in killing others he began to appreciate the value of life, and in between matches he became something of an intellectual, debating the castes with other miners. After bosses requested he lose a few fights, D-16 killed them and took over Kaon and [[Slaughter City]]. After murdering one boss in front of his employees, D-16 declared himself Megatronus, whom he considered the greatest of the [[Thirteen]]. After hearing his preaching on the [[Communication Grid]] against the [[Guilds of Cybertron]], the concerned [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] sent [[Bumper (WFC)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (WFC)|Fastback]] to investigate. Megatronus killed them, believing two lives were worthless compared to the millions doomed by the castes Sentinel created.

After a victorious battle with the [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]]s, in which the crowd redubbed him Megatron, the gladiator was contacted by the [[Iacon (polity)|Iaconian]] [[Hall of Records|records monitor]] [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Orion Pax]], and they began exchanging their ideas in intense but friendly philosophical discussions. Megatron encouraged Orion to learn self-defense and invited him to visit Kaon, which he did to a warm welcome from Megatron (and from none of his gladiators). By this point Megatron was planning to call his movement the Decepticons, and he had begun sending his followers on a search for artifacts of the Primes, as their discovery would be signs their cause was just. His followers began bombing Cybertron, and Megatron distanced himself from their extremism to gain credibility. Orion and his mentor [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] believed him, but the latter was well aware Megatron might have gained a taste for violence after the attention it earned him. Soon enough, Megatron accepted the gift of a kidnapped Sentinel Prime from [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]].

[[File:WFCcomicHalogendies.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]

Alpha Trion organized a hearing for Orion and Megatron with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. They protested involvement in Sentinel's disappearance. When confronted with the phrase "Decepticon", Megatron denied any knowledge of it but accepted his followers' term wholeheartedly, stating deception was necessary sometimes for the corrupt to see the truth. When [[Halogen (WFC)|Halogen]] revealed Megatron's followers had been trying to locate the [[Matrix of Leadership]], he declared that Orion should become the Prime that he desperately wanted to lead Cybertron into the new [[Golden Age]], and find it. Incensed, Megatron killed Halogen, and when Optimus prevented the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] from attacking Megatron, the ungrateful gladiator declared Optimus had fallen into the trap of power the High Council had given him. He declared Optimus was no longer his brother (though he would continue to refer to him as such privately), and that the Matrix would be his.

In the subsequent war with Optimus' [[Autobot]]s, the Decepticons took control of eighty-five percent of the planet. Wherever Starscream's [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] aided, they were victorious. Megatron was initially merciful to neutrals, but he let [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] take control of [[Tarn (polity)|Tarn]] and torture Autobot sympathizers there. When the [[Praxus|Praxians]], a progressive city-state who were disappointed with the direction Megatron took, allied with the Autobots, Megatron decided he would no longer try to convert followers and launched the first genocide of the war, slaughtering all in [[Nova Cronum]] who would not submit to the Decepticons as they attacked.

As the war dragged into a siege of Iacon, Soundwave's spying bore fruit as he discovered [[Dark Energon]], the essence of [[Unicron]], was aboard [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. Megatron forgave Starscream for hiding its existence from him, acknowledging its potentially dangerous nature. To ensure loyalty, Megatron's gladiators stormed the Station slaughtering and maiming Starscream's scientists. He forced Starscream to pick two test subjects to be Darkened, and following an astonishingly successful result, Megatron absorbed some, invigorating him. Soon Darkened Decepticons appeared on the battlefield, but it proved to be an inefficient resource and they would have to flee if a battle was prolonged. Megatron needed more, and even Starscream's activation of the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] didn't provide enough. Megatron felt he would kill all the Decepticons before he was deprived of Dark Energon and turn rabid.

Fortunately, Soundwave revealed the existence of the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] within [[Teletraan-1]], which required the [[Code Key]]s of Power and Justice to activate it. Starscream recovered the Key of Power, while Megatron and his best soldiers searched for the Key of Justice below the [[High Council Tower]]. Sentinel Prime emerged, to Megatron's surprise. Sentinel confronted him about Bumper and Fastback, and the two dueled. Megatron disarmed and sliced open Sentinel, revealing the Key of Justice within. Starscream made a grab for it, exposing that he had released Sentinel to kill Megatron and take leadership for himself. After fighting Starscream to a standstill, Megatron pardoned him as he found him a better soldier than would-be example, and used the Keys to open Teletraan-1: which activated [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to fly the Chamber to safety.

The Seekers shot Omega Supreme out of the air, causing him to crash. Optimus's Autobots arrived to fight the Decepticons, but the more they killed them the more Dark Energon left their bodies and empowered Megatron. He was able to knee Omega Supreme and turn him on his back, tearing the Chamber out of his chest. Using the Chamber, Megatron poisoned the [[core]] of Cybertron and Darkened the entire planet. But then the core stopped producing Dark Energon, and Megatron learnt Optimus had gone to the core and received the Matrix. As the Autobots attempted to flee Cybertron via the last [[space bridge]], Megatron used Trypticon to fire on their ships, and used his and Orion's old frequency to criticize Optimus for fleeing. He added he never believed in individual freedom for every Cybertronian, only the illusion of freedom that he as leader would provide and that the Guilds did not. Optimus responded that Megatron had turned his soldiers into addicts and they would turn on him, and used the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' to board, sabotage and crash Trypticon.

As the Autobots left on the completed ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', the Decepticons fully invaded Iacon. Megatron ordered Trypticon to transform into the ''Nemesis'', boarding it with Starscream, Soundwave, [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] and other elite soldiers, leaving Shockwave in charge. He used his old frequency once again to warn Optimus that he would hound him through the stars and finally kill him for the Matrix. He explained they were still brothers, as they were bonded for life despite their enmity. Optimus was just glad his hunt would get him off Cybertron. The two ships entered the last [[space bridge]] together, and when the ''Ark'' emerged, the ''Nemesis'' was gone. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

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{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}} {{storylink|Transformers: Retribution|Retribution}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
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[[File:OneShallRise3-corresponding.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"I'm a fox!" "I'm a hound doooog!"]]

In the waning years of the [[Golden Age]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatronus (who named himself after [[Megatronus (WFC)|one of the original thirteen Primes]]) was a gladiator who fought in the [[Kaon]] arena. Observing a disparity in freedom among the classes of his race, and that the ruling class was corrupt and all-powerful, Megatron turned rhetorician, trying to effect change. In drawing attention to this inequity, he inspired a [[Hall of Records]] clerk named [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Orion Pax]], and the two joined forces to end corruption and bring equality to the masses. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} Orion and Megatronus became close allies, almost like brothers. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[File:DarknessRising2-Megsflashback.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Things were very red in those days.]]

Megatronus shortened his name to Megatron before he and Orion Pax appeared before the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. Megatron threatened the council, promising to overthrow them and instate himself as the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]—a declaration of hostility that shocked Orion, and moved him to an impassioned speech in favour of autonomy that successfully swayed the council where Megatron had failed. Jealous, Megatron left the council and Orion behind and assembled his followers—including perennial loyalist [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] and scheming second-in-command [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]—into an army he would name "Decepticons", beginning the war for Cybertron and vowing to find the [[Matrix of Leadership]] which was denied to him by the council. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

The war saw Megatron successfully take the city of [[Kaon]], which contained the very arena he fought in as a gladiator, as the Decepticon capital. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} During a battle at [[Tyger Pax]], Megatron crushed the Autobot [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]'s voice box when the scout refused to break under interrogation. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} Furthermore, Megatron's wartime achievements were not limited to those achieved through might: he also created the deadly [[cybonic plague]] which wiped out millions {{storylink|Sick Mind}} and found a way to weaponize [[Tox-En]] which he used to wipe out an entire unit in front of a horrified Bulkhead. {{storylink|Toxicity}} It was through similarly poisonous means that Megatron came closest to seizing victory in the war's final stages, [[Dark Energon|infecting]] the [[Core]] of Cybertron itself. In purifying the core, Orion was granted the Matrix Megatron had long-sought, becoming Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} After his assassin [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] failed to kill Optimus at the [[Battle of Technahar]], {{storylink|Masters & Students}} Megatron became obsessed with the Autobot leader and decided that destroying him was his right alone. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} Megatron had his lead scientist [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] send an army of [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]] to Earth to lay waste to any Autobot forces on the planet and secure any and all energon deposits. {{storylink|Project Predacon}}

[[File:DarknessRising2-MegatronDarkEnergon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We can relate. We're just like this with our [[BotCon]] toys.]]

Eventually, the war left Cybertron in ruin and forced the whole Transformer race to exile into space. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}} Megatron would not leave the planet unguarded and placed a few [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]] guards in stasis on the planet, should the enemy return. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}} In time, Megatron and his army arrived on Earth, establishing mines to collect the Energon that the planet had been seeded with during the war. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}} He also had some of his best warriors, such as Skyquake to guard deposits either not ready to mine {{storylink|Masters & Students}}. After some early conflicts on the planet, Megatron withdrew to space to search for more troops, leaving Starscream in charge. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Searching the void for three years, Megatron found something better than mere warriors: he discovered a new source of Dark Energon, the "blood of [[Unicron]]", with which he could reanimate fallen Transformers as an army of the undead. Returning to Earth and resuming command of the Decepticons, Megatron tested the Dark Energon on the deceased Autobot [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]], reviving him as a [[zombie]] "[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]]" that slaughtered several [[Decepticon Miner]]s, but which posed no threat to Megatron himself. Unfortunately for Megatron, this partial reactivation of Cliffjumper's lifesigns drew Optimus Prime's Autobots to the Decepticons' mining operations. Deciding it was not yet time for a confrontation with Prime, Megatron withdrew aboard the [[Trypticon (WFC)|''Nemesis'']] and continued to brood over the Dark Energon.

[[File:darknessrising3 Megatronglowy.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Megatron, you fool! Rave glowsticks aren't candy!]]
Megatron's inability to control the zombie Cliffjumper convinced him that he needed to integrate the Dark Energon into his own body in order to control the undead legions he planned to create. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} Thrusting a shard of the material into his [[spark]], he was filled with its power, feeling as though he was connected to Unicron's very thoughts. Requiring a test run for his new power, Megatron headed to the site of an ancient Cybertronian battle on Earth, one full of the remains of fallen warriors, where he was confronted by Optimus and [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]. Using Dark Energon to raise the dead Transformers as Terrorcons, Megatron successfully found he had complete control of the undead horde, and send them against the two Autobots. [[File:DarknessRising4-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|I chew scenery while the zombies chew ''you''.]] {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} While Optimus and Ratchet fought their way through the Terrorcons, Megatron flew off before they could reach him, satisfied with his test results and ready put his plan into action—to open a [[space bridge]] to Cybertron and use Dark Energon to revive all the dead. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} Despite the Autobots' best efforts to damage the ''Nemesis'' and prevent the bridge from opening, Megatron succeeded in his plans, and then had his showdown with Optimus Prime atop the bridge itself as he waited for the Terrorcon legions to pass through to Earth. While the two old foes battled, the other Autobots sabotaged the bridge, causing it to explode and destroy both the Terrorcon army and seemingly Megatron himself. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}[[File:Masters&Students-Megatronstasis.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Well, it's better than just [[Megatron (Animated)|being a head]] I suppose.]]

The Autobots were not so lucky, however: the Dark Energon in his spark allowed Megatron to survive the explosion, but just barely. When Starscream found his leader floating in space, he tore the Dark Energon from his body in the hope that he would expire, but was caught in the act by [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]'s [[Deployer (WFC)|Deployer]], [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]], and forced to take Megatron back to the ''Nemesis'', where he was placed in [[Stasis lock|stasis]] in the sick bay. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Starscream was content to leave Megatron in this state to recover or expire as fate saw fit, but the crew of the ''Nemesis'' disagreed, and voted to bring in the Decepticon medic [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] to help heal their wounded leader. But the discovery of an [[Energon Harvester]] forced them to push off Megatron's recovery.{{storylink|Deus ex Machina}} Even with Knock Out's expertise, it seemed unlikely that Megatron would recover, but his assistant [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] gave his body a good buffing nonetheless, and Starscream approved, as it meant their ex-leader would look his best for the memorial service. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

[[File:SickMind megs and bee.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Hey, [[Megatron (Animated)|you]] really ''are'' [[Transform and Roll Out|uglier from this angle]]!]]

When Optimus Prime was infected by cybonic plague, Arcee and [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] boarded the ''Nemesis'' to search for an antidote. While they failed to find one in the database, the two Autobots did discover Megatron in stasis, and Bumblebee mind-linked with the Decepticon leader via a [[cortical psychic patch]] to try and pluck the cure from his sleeping brain. Bumblebee found himself within Megatron's mind, which took the form of [[Kaon]], where the Decepticon's subconscious was spending its time killing endless visions of Optimus Primes. Unfortunately, Bumblebee's intrusion only caused Megatron to become aware of his situation when he found he was unable to kill Bumblebee. Learning what had befallen Optimus, Megatron initially refused to give up the cure until Bumblebee convinced him that he would gain greater satisfaction from finishing his enemy off with his own two hands. Megatron offered the cure in exchange for Bumblebee's help in escaping his mental prison, but Bumblebee double-crossed him, withdrawing from his mind as soon as the cure was in Autobot hands. At the last moment, Megatron was able to effect his own escape, leaping into Bumblebee's mind along with him. {{storylink|Sick Mind}} [[File:OutofhisHead megatron revived.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|IT'S... AAALLLLLIIIIIIIIVE!]] Recalling the sliver of Dark Energon Starscream had removed from his body, Megatron took full control of Bumblebee's body a short time later and used the GroundBridge to return to the ancient battlefield where he had raised his original Terrorcons, recovering the Dark Energon shard he had used to do so. He returned to the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]], where he dealt with Ratchet and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] before again GroundBridging to the ''Nemesis'' and using the Dark Energon to restore his body and return his mind to it. Storming out of the ''Nemesis'' to find Starscream, Megatron snatched his subordinate out of the air in the middle of a battle with Optimus Prime and took him back for his punishment. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

[[File:Shadowzone-MegsStarscream.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Lulz.]]
Despite his treason, Megatron decided not to terminate Starscream, viewing him as no real threat and taking perverse amusement in his repeated failures. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Instead, Megatron proceeded to beat Starscream only to ''near'' death, then had him placed in the infirmary, occasionally visiting to gloat. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by the humans of [[MECH]], Megatron refuted Starscream's suggestion that they rescue him, announcing that if Breakdown had allowed himself to be captured by those weaker than him, then he deserved whatever he got. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} Breakdown did manage to escape, however, and in his wounded pride, volunteered to recover a [[polarity gauntlet]] for Megatron in order to prove his worth. Megatron was disappointed when his minion returned without the gauntlet, but was placated with the revelation that he had instead brought back [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]. {{storylink|Metal Attraction}}

[[File:RockBottom-Starscreamprays.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|left|[[wikipedia:Loki (comics)|In the end, you will always kneel]].]]
Discovering that Starscream was still attempting to mine energon for his personal use without his knowledge, Megatron determined that the amusement had come to an end. Taking him to the mine in question, Megatron revealed that he had been aware of Starscream's previous transgressions the whole time thanks to Soundwave, and was about to execute his grovelling lieutenant when [[Jack Darby (Prime)|Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] walked in. In the firefight that followed, stray shots from Megatron's fusion cannon brought the mine down on top of them all, with Megatron being completely pinned by rubble. Jack happened upon the Decepticon leader with a mining drill, and Megatron, knowing that the human would not help him, instead urged Jack to finish him off. Jack refused, saying that wasn't what Optimus would do, and left, but the opening he had created allowed Megatron to begin his escape. After finally extricating himself, Megatron came upon Starscream trying to keep a large rock from crushing him. Starscream insisted that he had come to rescue Megatron, and begged the Decepticon leader to spare him, and Megatron acquiesced with a smirk. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}}

Though Megatron allowed Starscream to live and continue as his second-in-command, he was furious to learn from Airachnid that Starscream had kept the location of the ''[[Harbinger]]'' from him. He ordered Starscream to lead Airachnid to the crash site and retrieve an [[Immobilizer|experimental weapon]] that was inside. Much to Megatron's fury, Airachnid returned not only without the weapon, but with the news that Starscream had been captured by the Autobots as well. {{storylink|Partners}}

[[File:StrongerFaster-KnockOutMegatronRatchet.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Steroids?" "Yup." "Ah."]]
When a formula for [[Synthetic Energon]] was transferred from a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] into the mind of the Autobot [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], Optimus Prime petitioned Megatron for the return of the cylinder so they could extract the formula, after which they would willingly hand it over. Megatron briefly considered the proposal, but instead sent Knock Out and Breakdown to capture Bulkhead and dared Prime to fight for the cylinder. When his Vehicon troops were defeated, Megatron simply crushed the device and took flight. {{storylink|T.M.I.}} The synthetic energon formula helped the Autobots counter Megatron's next tactic: causing the Autobots to burn through their energon supplies at an accelerated rate by leading them on wild goose chases. Juiced up on the "SynthEn", Ratchet attacked Megatron and Knock Out while they were surveying an energon mine, and sent the Decepticon leader flying with one punch. Unfortunately for Ratchet, Megatron swiftly recovered and subdued the Autobot medic with ease. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[File:PrimeEp23-Megatronjetmode.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Hold still, jet mode, so we can screencap you, dammit!]]
Convinced by Dark Energon-induced visions that an impending prophecy detailed his own destiny, Megatron stepped up the Decepticons' work in constructing a new space bridge so they could obtain more Dark Energon. When they located the last component they needed, Megatron went in personally, grievously wounding Raf with a blast of Dark Energon on the way and creating an unintended distraction that allowed him to make off with the power source he needed. Soon after, Megatron lured Optimus Prime to a volcano he had seen in his visions, and during their battle, it erupted with Dark Energon, imbuing Megatron with the power he needed to fell Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} [[File:OneShallFall-visionfulfilled.jpg|thumb|255px|Look, Prime! Look at the fireworks! Aren't they splendid?!]] The intervention of the other Autobots saved Prime's life, but this was of little concern to Megatron, who now had all the Dark Energon he needed and set his miners to work gathering it up. When Soundwave detected a spark-beat coming from within the Earth, Megatron felt it pounding through his brain and realized what his visions had meant: the lifeforce of Unicron himself dwelt within Earth. Leaving Airachnid in command, Megatron flew into the volcano to address Unicron, but did not receive the power he had hoped the chaos-bringer would bestow on him, instead receiving Unicron's displeasure at the fact that Optimus Prime still lived. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Spurned, Megatron instead went to the aid of Optimus and his Autobots, who were under attack from Unicron's stone avatars. He offered Optimus his services—he intended to lead them to Unicron's real form so that Optimus could use the [[Matrix of Leadership]] on the Chaos God. While the Autobots returned to base, Megatron kept the giant stone Unicrons busy, and Prime eventually accepted Megatron's offer. On arrival in the Autobot base, Megatron encountered a couple of humans he recognized, Raf and Jack, as well as a [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|new loud one]]. Megatron was first to step through the GroundBridge into the Earth's core, and as the Autobots followed, he warned them that Unicron already knew they were there. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

[[File:OneShallRise3-together.jpg|thumb|255px|left|"Just this once, we work together! Mortal enemies working together for the common good!" "Be quiet!"]]
Despite the persistent influence of Unicron, Megatron led the Autobots through Unicron's insides, even helping them fight off [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]]. The Dark Energon he was imbued with allowed him to enter Unicron's spark chamber with Optimus, though at that point Unicron's influence became so great that the Chaos God was able to commandeer his body. After Optimus unleashed the power of the Matrix, apparently extinguishing Unicron's spark, Megatron went to kill Optimus, only to discover his foe had lost his memory and now believed himself to be Orion Pax. Megatron convinced Optimus that the other Autobots were enemies, and the pair returned to the ''Nemesis'', where Megatron introduced "Orion Pax" to his men. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

[[File:Orion-Pax-Part-1-OP-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"Megatron, what happened? Where did you go wrong?" <br> "Uh, watch ''Revenge of the Sith'' I know I'm not in it, but it pretty much sums it all up."]]
Megatron wasted no time in spinning a tale of Autobot warlord Ratchet and the destruction of Cybertron, and put Orion Pax to work decoding data from the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] archives for a [[Project Iacon|project]] of the same name. Though aware that at some point Orion would find out the truth, Megatron made all precautions to make sure that didn't happen before Orion finished his work. Knock Out was ordered to set up Orion's work station a mere few inches away from the Energon storage vault.

During Orion's decoding, the archivist noted several references to Starscream as being Megatron's second in command. As part of his deception, Megatron claimed Starscream to be dead, and ordered Soundwave to carefully remove Arcee from the ship with a GroundBridge. Arachnid offered to destroy the bike bot herself, but Megatron feared that Orion would become weary of their activity's should he bare witness to an Autobot's destruction. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} Megatron attempted to cover for a surprise visit by Starscream when he managed to sneak aboard the ship. Orion asked why Megatron lied, but the con leader stated that Starscream as "dead" to their cause for joining the Autobots. However, Starscream's visit caused Orion to uncover the truth and find out that he was, in fact, Optimus Prime, the so-called leader of the Autobot "invaders". Soundwave notified Megatron of Orion finding information on Optimus Prime, and Megatron realized that harsher methods would be necessary to complete [[Project Iacon]]. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}}

[[File:OrionPax3 Megatron threatens Orion.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Do you see what's in your teeth ''NOW''?!]]
Megatron payed Orion a visit to expose Orion's findings. Orion demanded to know the full truth, but Megatron refused, causing Orion to delete his findings. Fortunately, Soundwave had recorded his findings, and the data was saved. Soundwave also informed Megatron of the activity at the space bridge and went there to find that the Autobots had taken control of it, and that one of their [[Insecticon (WFC)|traps]] on Cybertron was activated. Megatron ordered the guards to watch Orion while he went out and threatened to kill the archivist if he had not completed the project. Megatron realized that the Autobots must have been searching for a way to restore Orion to Optimus. Megatron arrived at the space bridge and defeated the trio of Autobots present, and waited for Arcee to return from the open space bridge with the Matrix in her possession. When Orion had overpowered his guards and came to attack Megatron, Orion declared his loyalty to the Autobots, pulled out his blades, and attacked Megatron. The amnesiac Autobot was no match for him. While the Decepticon leader was subsequently kept busy by Arcee, Jack returned the Matrix to Orion, who regained his memory and left with the Autobots, leaving Megatron screaming furiously at his failure. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

[[File:OperationBumblebee1 spark extractor.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Now ''I'' have [[The Touch]].]]
Following the first of the artifact coordinates left by Orion, Megatron and his men unearthed the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]]. While Megatron was bringing it back through the GroundBridge, it was taken from him by Bumblebee. He then ordered Knock Out and Breakdown to retrieve another artifact before Bulkhead and Bumblebee did. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} Megatron was pleased when Knock Out returned with a force field generator, quickly demonstrating the object's power with a cannon-blast. Megatron himself joined the mission to get the third artifact, and managed to secure the [[Forge of Solus Prime]] by holding a prone Bulkhead hostage. Unfortunately, he discovered that the Forge wouldn't work without the power of a Prime behind it. {{Storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

When [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] arrived on Earth, Megatron filled him in on what had happened to his brother Skyquake, but warned him not to seek revenge on his own. When Dreadwing did anyway, Megatron figured that would be the last they saw of him, although he was glad that Dreadwing both survived and learned his lesson. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}}

[[File:Crossfire Megatron and Insecticon close together.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"You do know that you'll be splattered across the ceiling after this screencap, right?"]]
Reminded of Airachnid's past treachery, Megatron tasked Dreadwing with ridding them of her. Dreadwing not only failed, but returned minus Breakdown, much to Megatron's disgust. Megatron responded to Airachnid's later communication by attempting to get rid of her himself. Although she set an [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]] on him, the mighty Megatron eventually prevailed against it. The fight took all of his strength, and he was subsequently surrounded by Autobots. With Dreadwing's help, he escaped and made Dreadwing his new [[second-in-command]]. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

Megatron responded to reports of Starscream on the ship and found not one but four [[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscreams]] on the bridge. After attempting to appeal to their treacherous nature, he took advantage of a diversion to offline three of them before the fourth escaped. The diversion turned out to be a mass Insecticon attack, but after a fight, the Insecticons suddenly stopped and announced they were loyal to him. Then the ''Nemesis'' crashed. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}} Megatron got the ship moving again using Dark Energon, but when it exhibited its own intelligence and refused to follow his orders, he tried to shut it down, only to be put into stasis lock. He only awoke when the kids reversed the energon flow. {{storylink|Flying Mind}}

As Knock Out prepared to go and try to find the first of the four relics which the ship had found the location of, Megatron instructed him to take an Insecticon as muscle. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}} Megatron then sent Dreadwing to [[Antarctica]] to find the relic there {{storylink|Triangulation}} and then sent [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]] and three other Insecticons to a volcanic area at the equator, {{storylink|Toxicity}} before sending Soundwave to find the last relic.

He was impressed with the [[Resonance Blaster]] Soundwave found, but less so with Dreadwing and Knock Out, the latter of whom returned looking like he'd been run over by a train. After they found a grenade implanted in Laserbeak, Megatron set Soundwave back to work decoding the Iacon database. {{storylink|Triage (episode)|Triage}} His rage over Hardshell's failure was mollified when the Insecticon claimed to have offlined Bulkhead, but when they later got a call from [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] revealing Bulkhead was still alive, Megatron demanded Hardshell bring him Wheeljack's spark as a substitute. Instead Hardshell's corpse was brought back before him, and Megatron was shocked to learn a [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|human girl]] was responsible. {{storylink|Hurt}}

[[File:TheHumanFactor Cylas and Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Soundwave, please arrange our guest a carwash.]]
After sending Knock Out to investigate Breakdown's signal coming back online, Megatron expressed distaste at the Breakdown/[[Silas]] hybrid who was brought to the ship. Nevertheless he allowed "Cylas" the opportunity to prove himself worthy of a place in the Decepticon ranks by supplying them with a [[Project Damocles]] satellite. Though the initial results were promising, he sent Cylas to terminate Raf when the boy's hacking threatened to railroad their plans. When Cylas failed to do so and the satellite was stopped, Megatron called him back, and handed the former MECH commander over to Knock Out for dissection. {{storylink|The Human Factor}}

[[File:Legacy-ohcrap.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Looks like [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari]] told Megatron where babies come from.]]
When Soundwave decoded another set of Iacon relic coordinates, Megatron initiated a decoy relic beacon to give them the advantage over the Autobots, and went to fetch the latest relic with a team. Though hoping it would be a Decepticon weapon, Megatron was stunned when it turned out to be the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]. When he was unable to extract the sword, he had the Decepticons chip away a chunk of the mountain to be hauled away by the ''Nemesis'' in an effort to ensure it did not fall in Optimus's hands. Unfortunately, the arrival of [[Smokescreen (Prime)|a new Autobot]] delayed them long enough that the other Autobots discovered the deception. Optimus quickly managed to get hold of the sword despite Megatron's best efforts, and as the Autobot leader unleashed the sword's power, Megatron was forced to retreat in his ship, noting it was now the Decepticons' darkest hour. {{storylink|Legacy}}

[[File:AlphaOmegaDarkStarSaber.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|[[Palpatine|It's treason then...]].]]
Coming up with a new plan to combat the Star Saber, Megatron took Dreadwing through the space bridge to Cybertron, and broke into the tomb of a Prime. After having Knock Out graft the Prime's arm onto Megatron, he was finally able to use the Forge of Solus Prime to forge a [[Dark Star Saber]] with some of his Dark Energon. Once Soundwave decrypted a new set of coordinates, he got the opportunity to test it on Arcee and Smokescreen when the pair found the first [[Omega Key]], whom he swept aside with ease. With new-found confidence, Megatron challenged Prime to a duel, and though his new sword cleaved right through the Star Saber, Megatron was unable to stop the Autobots from getting away with the Omega Key. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}} Gloating of his destruction of the Star Saber, he allowed Knock Out the opportunity to retrieve the next relic. Upon his return with another Omega Key, Megatron was intrigued by the relic, believing it to be part of a larger piece, and put the doctor to work analyzing it. He was less impressed with Dreadwing who returned empty handed from his mission, and asserted that they needed to locate the Autobot base to recover their relics. Then Soundwave decrypted the final part of the Iacon databse, revealing Smokescreen to be relevant to their search. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}}

[[File:PatchMegatronStarscream.JPG|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Because we haven't seen this before.]]
After they extracted the Omega Key from Smokescreen, Megatron had Knock Out perform a cortical psychic patch procedure on the Autobot to learn their purpose. After discovering that all four could be used to revitalize Cybertron, he left Knock Out to find out where the Autobot base was, Megatron went to place the Omega Key in storage. However Smokescreen escaped and snatched it out of his grasp and made off with the other key as well. Though Megatron and his men gave pursuit as the Autobot jumped off their ship, Smokescreen got away. The Decepticon leader told Dreadwing they would need to locate the Autobot base quickly to retrieve the other keys, only to find Starscream on the bridge, with all four of the Omega Keys as a peace offering. {{storylink|Inside Job}} Intending to find what Starscream really planned, Megatron had himself plugged into the rogue Decepticon with a psychic patch. Despite most of Starscream's memories turning out to be incriminating, he was eventually convinced to allow Starscream to rejoin the Decepticon ranks. {{storylink|Patch (episode)|Patch}}

Megatron attempted to stress to Dreadwing that the Decepticons needed to be united. Unfortunately Dreadwing was more interested in slagging Starscream, and Megatron had to blow a hole through him. Once the location of the [[Omega Lock]] was established, Megatron took the Keys to Cybertron to find it. He and his men were attacked by the Autobots, who got away with the Keys while Megatron was otherwise occupied with the spark extractor. With some help from Starscream, Megatron got hold of the Autobots' human friends to use as a bargaining chip to secure the return of the Keys. {{storylink|Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration}}

[[File:DarkestHour-thisistheplace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
Once he had the Keys back, Megatron had the lock activated and revealed that he intended to use it on both Cybertron and Earth so he'd have two worlds to rule, starting with Earth. Shockingly, this news resulted in Optimus slicing Megatron's sword arm off before destroying the Omega Lock. Though the Autobots escaped, Megatron would have the last laugh, as he knew the location of their base and used the Omega Lock to create a fortress there before Optimus destroyed it. If he could not conquer Cybertron, he could at least conquer Earth. From the ''Nemesis'', he and his men attacked and destroyed the Autobot base as their first act of aggression. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}}

As the Decepticons were unable to find any corpses in the rubble, Megatron ordered worldwide surveillance. He got the opportunity to test his [[Darkmount (Earth)|new citadel]]'s fusion cannons on some foolishly attacking [[human]]s, and contacted [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]], claiming to want to co-exist peacefully with humanity. With the continuing failure of Starscream to get any information out of the captive Wheeljack, Megatron sent Knock Out to Cybertron to search for the relics lost during the Omega Lock battle. He was pleased when Knock Out returned with the long lost [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} Megatron appointed Shockwave his first lieutenant in charge of science. With failures mounting, including an aborted attempt by Starscream to track down the Autobots by freeing Wheeljack with a tracking device attached, Megatron's anger grew, leading Shockwave to bring to Earth a [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] he had cloned. {{storylink|Scattered}} The [[Predaking (Prime)|beast]] was dispatched, but to Megatron's disappointment it returned empty-handed. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}}

[[File:Rebellion-prepunch.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|"Right here - go on, right in the chest!"]]
Megatron was furious when Starscream scattered their troops in pursuit of phantom Autobot signals, shortly before Darkmount itself was attacked. The Decepticon leader cut short [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]]'s attempt to assault the fusion cannon control room, and ordered the Autobots executed. Before this could be done, Optimus Prime turned up, comprehensively beating up Megatron and throwing him into the fusion cannon power core. Despite his protests, the other Decepticons dragged Megatron back to the ''Nemesis'' before the Autobots brought the citadel crashing to the ground. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion}}

Instead the Decepticons turned their attentions to cloning, with Megatron ordering the creation of more Predacons. {{storylink|Project Predacon}} When the existing Predacon returned, Megatron ordered Starscream to take command of it. He later dispatched the beast and his first lieutenant to [[Scotland]] when a team searching for fossils there failed to report in. {{storylink|Chain of Command (Prime)|Chain of Command}} Megatron was displeased when it turned out Starscream had lost the Apex Armor, and was even less impressed when Starscream caused damage to the communications dish. Knock Out, at least, did not disappoint the Decepticon leader when he returned with another Predacon fossil. {{storylink|Plus One}} After some near-missteps in gathering the fossils required, Megatron hinted Shockwave should restrict himself to working in the laboratory in future. {{storylink|Project Predacon}}

Megatron discovered that Knock Out and Starscream had been experimenting with Synthetic Energon and had accidentally created a zombie-like plague. After the situation resulted in Airachnid being freed and the loss of the Insecticons, Megatron gave Knock Out orders to turn all of his experiments over to Shockwave, and reserved a ''special'' punishment for Starscream. {{storylink|Thirst}}

[[File:Evolution-Potentialcoup.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|[[Darth Vader|"I want them alive... No disintegrations!"]].]]
During a visit to Shockwave's off-site laboratory, Megatron was shocked to learn that the Predacon could transform and was intelligent enough to speak. Though [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] affirmed he was loyal to Megatron, the Decepticon leader suspected that once Predaking discovered that the Predacons were superior to ordinary Decepticons, he would turn against them. The Decepticons quickly realised they'd need to terminate Shockwave's cloning process, and Starscream came up with a plan to pin it on the Autobots which succeeded splendidly. In the aftermath of the explosion, the Decepticons discovered that the Synthetic Energon stored in the lab had created Cybermatter. {{storylink|Evolution}}

With this discovery in mind, Megatron put Shockwave in charge of perfecting the Synthetic Energon formula, however they quickly realized that the Omega Lock would needed to be repaired to allow for its targeted delivery, and that Ratchet would be needed to complete the formula. Megatron told Shockwave he had decided that Earth and Cybertron were two halves of the same coin, and he intended to rule both. As the Autobots continued to interfere in their plans, Megatron had Predaking take part in protecting the Vehicons, though he insisted it be done with the Predacon in [[beast mode]]. {{storylink|Minus One}}

[[File:Synthesis Megatron and Predaking.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|[[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]] [[Megatron (Movie)|can't]] [[Transformers (film)|save]] [[Predaking (Prime)|you]] [[Aligned continuity family|here]]!]]
After the Decepticons captured Ratchet and failed to extract the information they needed via cortical psychic patch, Megatron turned on the charm. Once he showed Ratchet the Omega Lock they'd reconstructed, the Autobot reluctantly agreed to help them. {{storylink|Persuasion}} Despite several missteps which he encouraged his men to correct, Megatron was pleased when the Synth-En formula was perfected, and promptly rewarded Ratchet by giving the Autobot to Predaking as a chew toy. Unfortunately Ratchet turned Predaking against him, and Megatron found himself facing the Predacon in combat. With some help from Starscream, Megatron defeated Predaking and expelled him from the ship, however the Decepticons then found their warship under attack from the Autobots. {{storylink|Synthesis}}

[[File:Tfp megatron impaled.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Megatron killed by... Bumblebee!? It could happen... ONLY ON [[Hub Network|THE HUUUUB]]!]]
Megatron intercepted Optimus Prime, damaging the Autobot's [[jet pack]], and proceeded to duel with his foe atop the Omega Lock, all the while giving orders to Shockwave to prepare the Lock for firing. When Bumblebee attempted to pass Optimus the Star Saber, Megatron blasted the scout, killing him. He prepared to finish off Optimus as well, but Bumblebee was restored by the Omega Lock and ran Megatron through with the Star Saber. Megatron's lifeless body fell from the Omega Lock and plummeted Earthward. {{storylink|Deadlock (episode)|Deadlock}}

[[File:Predaconsrising-chaosandcreation.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|Seriously, how are you ''not'' Galvatron?]]
Megatron's body lay at the bottom of the ocean until it was revived and restructured by Unicron. Megatron found himself a prisoner in his own body, tortured by his new master and unable to do anything other than observe. Unicron returned to Cybertron, intending to destroy the planet and end Primus. Megatron tricked him into fighting Predaking, reasoning that if their shared body was damaged enough, Unicron would leave it, however Unicron managed to beat Predaking and raised an army of Predacon Terrorcons with which to attack Cybertron's core. Megatron was only finally freed when Optimus tricked Unicron, drawing the dark god's anti-spark into a suitable container. Though Starscream believed Megatron would once again lead the Decepticons, Megatron had tasted oppression and no longer wished to inflict it, declaring the Decepticon movement dead and flying off. {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}}
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===Commercial appearances===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)}}

Megatron, [[wikipedia:Dan Vs.|Dan]] and [[My Little Pony|Pinkie Pie]] sang a collaborative group song while the scene quickly shifted between a variety of strange alternate universes. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub summer promo 2011}}
{{quote|Are you ready for the summer? Are you ready for the hot <s>nuts</s> nights?|Megatron}}

At some point he ended up in detention at a school because he had "anger issues". {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub promo}}

He later joined back up with Pinkie Pie as well as other ponies Rainbow Dash and Applejack, and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] in scatting "[[wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]" {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers}} and singing "[[wikipedia:Jingle Bells|Jingle Bells]]". {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers (Second spot)}}

He also demanded that viewers vote for him in the Hub's 2010 "Naughty or Nice" contest. They must have been listening, because he was eventually voted the "Naughtiest" villain on the Hub that year.

[[File:MegatronCareBear.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''Megatron is on the right''<br> One wonders where exactly the other Care Bear came from.]]
Megatron declared the Hub his in a commercial for a marathon of ''Prime'' season 1 and 2, doing certain Hub-focused jokes and gags before the commercial breaks during the marathon. One such segment showed [[The Transformers (cartoon)|his home movies]], during which reminisced on how [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|young he looked back then]] and mocked [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave's]] dated choice of alt mode. (This is highly unlikely to be canon.) In other commercials for the marathon, it is revealed that out of all the radio transmissions in the universe, the ''[[My Little Pony]]: Friendship is Magic'' [[theme song|theme]] is his favorite song, {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|Megatron's Favorite Song (26 Hour Takeover marathon promo)}} and that he has been working on new transformations, demonstrating his ability to [[Pretender|transform]] into Funshine Bear, a [[wikipedia:Care Bears|Care Bear]], much to his humiliation. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|Megatron Transforms into a Care Bear (26 Hour Takeover marathon promo)}} Also during the marathon; he commented on how his favorite reason that transformers were superior to humans was that transformers didn't need bathroom breaks. He also commented that the one thing he doesn't get about Autobots is their continuation of transforming into land-based vehicles (not complaining, just observing). He also expressed bewilderment over the way [[United States of America|Americans]] elect [[President of the United States|their leader]] through [[Democracy|democratic means]], rather than just killing off the competition like he would do. He also apologized to [[ALF]] for pre-empting his show, allowing the program to air at a later date under his regime. The only humans that Megatron admitted to liking were those that cower before him and Dan, due to his anger.

Despite Megatron's might, Raf judged him inferior to [[wikipedia:Time Warner Cable|Time Warner Cable]]'s ability to transmit ''Transformers: Prime'' on laptop, tablet and smartphone computers, as demonstrated by a possible Cybertronian who switches to all three devices. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|Time Warner Cable: Competiton}}

While lounging around the Nemesis, Megatron answered questions about his personal life, took requests from fans and offered advice to the disillusioned and directionless. He shot down one girl who asked him to the prom, told a guy that the best way to get noticed by chicks is to transform into a jet, suggested that pound cake is the most superior of all baked desserts, and revealed that his ideal form of relaxation involves drawing [[My Little Pony|Rainbow Dash]] fanart. We all learned a little more about Megatron than we wanted to, that day.{{storylink|Commercial/Prime#2013|Ask Megatron}}

Megatron narrated ''[[wikipedia:A Visit from St. Nicholas|A Visit from St. Nicholas]]'' for his troops, which was interrupted by three Vehicons discussing the stirring practices of mice. Megatron threatened to put them on the naughty list. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|30-Second Holiday Special: "Decepticon Holidays: Naughty List"}} Megatron shouted down several Vehicons singing about figgy pudding. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|30-Second Holiday Special: "Decepticon Holidays: Pudding"}} An Insecticon had direct orders from Megatron to send whoever decorated the ''Nemesis'' in holiday lights to the North Pole. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|30-Second Holiday Special: "Decepticon Holidays: Holiday Schmoliday"}}

===Titan Comics ''Prime'' comics===
[[File:Titan4.2 Megatron Soundwave piggyback.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|The kiddy-friendly comics have Megatron giving piggy-back rides.]]
Under Megatron's leadership, the Decepticons conquered many city states including [[Kalis]], [[Tarn (polity)|Tarn]] and [[Vos]]. When the time came to strike against [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Megatron led a five-con team in under the cover of darkness to bomb the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. They had barely planted the first bomb when they were spotted and fired on. After the other three Decepticons were shot down, Megatron gave Soundwave a bomb and set about causing a distraction while his second-in-command went to plant it. When Soundwave was also shot down, Megatron flew into action, helping up the rest of his team and carrying Soundwave as they retreated under the cover of an exploding bomb. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

With a new plan, Megatron took [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] to attack the [[Yamal|NS ''Yamal'']], a Russian icebreaker near [[Antarctica]]. He intended to use a [[static lance]] to cause the ship's reactors to meltdown exposing energon deposits beneath the ice. Unfortunately Optimus got wind of the plan and came storming in. As Megatron detailed his plan during their one-on-one fight, Optimus took possession of the lance. Megatron attempted to take it back, only for Optimus to hit him with it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

[[File:Titan4.11 Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|Megatron works part-time at the Autobot Hotel providing alarm calls.]]
Megatron and Soundwave somehow slipped some code into ''[[Invasionauts II]]'' to hypnotize Raf into opening the GroundBridge so they could send Vehicons through. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}} Irritated at Starscream's failure to end the Autobot problem, Megatron demanded his subordinate try and lure the Autobots into a trap instead for fruitlessly searching for them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|All the President's 'Bots!}}

Now infuriated at his army being constantly bested by the Autobots, Megatron took the ''Nemesis'' to the [[Erta Ale volcano]] where he had his troops fight in a series of deathmatches to apply the principal of survival of the fittest. He forced Starscream to fight [[Fearstorm]], and when Starscream won, seemed happy enough to let his lieutenant return to the ship. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.7|Megatron's Law}} After Bulkhead destroyed an energon store, Megatron had him captured and taken aboard the warship, where the Autobot was placed in the newly developed [[Ultra Prison]]. Megatron sneeringly informed Bulkhead that the prison would slowly wipe his mind, but it was Megatron who got the raw end of the deal when the ''Nemesis'' was badly damaged during the inevitable Autobot rescue. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.11|The Battle for Bulkhead}}

Intending to show the pitiful humans that their independence was only temporary, Megatron attempted to stage a media circus in which he destroyed the [[Statue of Liberty]]. Unfortunately only Bumblebee and Optimus turned up, and though Megatron tried his best to wreck the statue, Optimus caused more damage to it in the process of defeating him than he did himself. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.13|Protecting the Lady}}
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====Mega-Mouth====
Megatron occasionally takes time out from conquering the universe to...answer fan mail? He also sometimes seems [[Megatron (Movie)|confused]] about which multiverse he hails from, as he claimed he attacked [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.1#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #1}} and also explained why he wore a cowl in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]].'' {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.4#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #4}} He also said he survived ''Dark of the Moon'', after some fan asked how Megatron could be answering fan mail. {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.5#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #5}}
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===''Tales of the Beast Hunters''===
After [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] intercepted a message pointing to a derelict starship containing weapons in the [[asteroid belt]], Megatron and [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] headed out to find it. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 2}} They got there and found [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] about to make off with the weapons. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 4}} After [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] joined the battle, {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 5}} the ship began to explode, and Megatron plunged through the floor along with tons of debris. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 6}}

Injured, Megatron lay beneath the wreckage in the ship, using his damaged comms to monitor events on Earth. Finally his groping hands found an [[Tartarex Warp Sword|ancient weapon]], which used the surrounding debris to repair and rebuild him. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 22}} He returned to Earth and blasted the top off a mountain, {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 23}} intending to make a preemptive strike against the Predacons. The Predacons promptly flew up to engage him in combat. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 24}}

===''Full of Fire!''===
Disgruntled at the lack of progress in Predacon cloning, Megatron complained to Shockwave, who revealed that the cloning had already borne fruit. Megatron was pleased, though not so much when Predaking and the five new Predacons returned having been defeated by the Autobots. He believed that the Autobots now knew the extent of the Predacon army, however Shockwave was quick to reveal that there were a whole lot more Predacon clones ready to go. {{storylink|Full of Fire!}}

===IDW Aligned comics===
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===''Transformers: The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe''===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe|The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe}}}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)|[[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian), [[Juan Carlos Lozano]] (Spanish)}}
[[File:WFC Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.95|He wants the whooole wooorld, in his hand!]]
During the early war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatron found reference to an energy source called [[Dark Energon]], which had impressive potential as a weapon, and became determined to claim it for himself. One of the few places it was made was in a station in orbit around Cybertron, guarded by a politically neutral force led by [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]. With this knowledge, he took a ship and launched an assault on the station.

The ship was badly damaged in the attack, and so he ordered [[Barricade (WFC)|Barricade]] and [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]], piloting it, to ram the station. He and many of his soldiers survived the impact and escaped the core's detonation. They were then confronted by Starscream, who informed them that they would not allow them to take what he had guarded for ten thousand years. After surviving a trap of sentry guns, Megatron, Barricade, and Brawl were reinforced by more of Megatron's troops, and set out on their way to find the station's Dark Energon stores and claim them for the war effort. They encountered significant resistance, but managed to shoot their way through, with directional aid from [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]. Barricade noted that the station itself seemed quite primitive; Megatron noted it was very old, and that he intended to modernize it. At one point, the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] confronted Megatron nonviolently, asking him to give up his quest, as Dark Energon would result in only horror, death, and destruction, to which Megatron sneered, "You say that as if it were a bad thing."

[[File:WFC-MegatronmeetsStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|At last we meet, my punching bag.]]

Along their way to the Dark Energon, they found that a large portion of the station had been blasted clean off, the debris field traversable but sparse enough to allow easy viewing of Cybertron itself. Soundwave soon found records indicating that a small amount of Dark Energon lost containment and was the sole cause of the destruction, underscoring Megatron's desire for it. When Barricade asked how he expected to control it when no other had, Megatron said that such power was only for the strong, that he was the strongest, and not to question him again.

When they finally reached the storage chamber, and Megatron averted Starscream's destruction of it, he calmly entered into a container full of raw Dark Energon, while Starscream watched and gloated at his imminent destruction...only for him to walk out, not only unscathed, but crackling with power, which he further bestowed upon Barricade and Brawl. A single blast of Dark Energon was enough to destroy an entire company of station security forces, the last line of defense between Megatron and Starscream and his companions.

Jetfire again tried to warn Megatron about the dangers of Dark Energon, but Starscream interrupted, asking to join the Decepticon leader. Megatron asked what Starscream could offer that he could not simply take. Starscream revealed the station's supply of Dark Energon was almost spent, and he knew how to manufacture more—and as luck would have it, there was a dormant [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] which could be used to power it. Jetfire retreated to inform [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]]; Megatron let him go, seeming pleased by the notion of letting the Autobots tremble in advance of their actions, and sent Starscream, [[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]] to activate the bridge.

Megatron repeatedly mocked what he perceived as Starscream's slowness in his simple mission, but the Seeker did what he said he could. With a steady supply of Dark Energon, Megatron launched an attack on Iacon City, intending to take a device called the [[Omega Key]] and use it to enter the Core of Cybertron. This time, he took [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] and Soundwave with him. The trio took the less-guarded way in—which, since the Autobots were not complete fools (as even Megatron would admit), still had significant military presence. During the attack, Starscream noted that Dark Energon was proving every bit as potent as Megatron had promised. Breakdown let Megatron know of his misgivings about the Sky Commander; Megatron admitted he was treacherous and untrustworthy, but he had useful talents, and his cunning and ambition was intriguing.

The Omega Key had been taken from its normal resting place, however, by Autobot leader Zeta Prime, and so Megatron took his squad on an assault on Zeta's headquarters. They met Brawl, leading an attack on the doors to Zeta Prime's armory, along the way. Even Megatron's touch of Dark Energon could not breach the vault doors, however, and so he called in [[Dark Energon Bomber]]s. When they were shot down, Brawl suggested they take out the Autobots' air defense guns, after which bombers were called in again; Megatron's troops then held off a massive assault from what seemed like the entire Autobot army while waiting for the bombing run to finally arrive.

[[File:WFC Megatron Vs ZetaPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Zeta Prime, you might be more egotistical than me. I mean really, a huge holographic version of you and smaller holograms doing what you can't do without your pointy stick thing?]]

After the vault doors were breached, they reached Zeta Prime himself, who had constructed several layers of security while he waited. An invincible energy field protected him, while he could drop portions of the ceiling with pistons to crush anything beneath them, and construct endless holographic clones of himself outfitted for melee combat, which Megatron personally found nauseating. However, his defenses were not without flaw: periodically, the power core would need to disperse waste heat, and Megatron's team survived long enough to destroy it during this stage. Zeta fell, buried under the wreckage of his own defenses, and Megatron took the device he'd carried...which started to make electronic chirping noises. Zeta, with dark humor, noted that the device was not the Omega Key. It merely ''activated'' the Key, which would come to them...

Searching for the Key in the skies aboard another ship, Megatron, with Soundwave and Breakdown at the controls, were abruptly confronted by a massive ship, [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]], who knocked them out of the sky, causing them to crash back in Iacon. There, they played a cat-and-mouse campaign in a desperate attempt to survive the enormous Autobot's vast firepower, though Soundwave noted that the weaponry they bore had little chance of penetrating Omega Supreme's armor. Megatron, for his part, at least contrived to appear unafraid, claiming that if it came to a real fight, the brute wouldn't stand a chance against Megatron's intellect. However, Omega's attacks drove them underground and left them unable to immediately transmit counter to Starscream, who declared Megatron dead and announced he was taking control. Even when they re-established contact, Starscream's aerial forces only briefly distracted Omega, who dispensed large numbers of troops, sucked up Decepticons with a tractor beam, fired weapons of mass destruction, and mined the roads Megatron and his squad were using.

[[File:Omega Supreme smash.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"I challenge you to a thumb wrestling competition!"<br>"''That's'' a thumb!?"]]
Soundwave, however, had come up with a suggestion—there were weapons emplacements higher up that had the ability to damage Omega Supreme. Taking them from the Autobots was a battle in and of itself, but nothing compared to the fight against Omega Supreme, who could unload entire squadrons of Aerialbots. Nonetheless, Megatron's boldness and tactical acumen finally shot Omega Supreme out of the sky.

[[File:WFC-hearmynameandtremble.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|I stand on your crotch!]]

Gloating, Megatron found that the behemoth was still not defeated, and indeed was drawing power from Cybertron itself to repair his systems, making him stronger, if anything. However, by corrupting the energon batteries with which he was using to feed himself with Dark Energon charges, they were able to weaken him to the point where they could finally blast away his last defenses and brought him to heel. With Omega Supreme defeated, Megatron went underground, directly to the Core, and corrupted it with a massive infusion of Dark Energon, finally bringing Cybertron itself more completely under his control.

At this point, Megatron was clearly convinced, and for good reason, that he'd won, making propaganda broadcasts extolling his greatness and how he had taken away the Autobots' burdens of "liberty" and "choice". When Starscream was defeated and the Decagon retaken, however, he realized the Autobots were not yet going to roll over for him, and sent a distress signal from Zeta Prime, whom he had kept alive in the Kaon prison camp, in order to provoke a rescue attempt from the Autobots. His old acquaintance Optimus took the bait, and Megatron confronted him, telling him that the war could be over tomorrow if Optimus took the Autobots and left. Optimus refused, so Megatron consigned him and his team to the prisons. When they managed to stage a mass breakout, an enraged Megatron ordered his troops to prevent their escape at any cost, to the point of tearing apart portions of Kaon.

This was not enough, however, and they escaped, journeying to the Core, where they kickstarted the cleansing of Megatron's corruption. Doing so, however, would take the Core millions of years of shutdown, rendering Cybertron uninhabitable. Whether Megatron knew this or not, when he saw the Autobots leaving after Optimus's refusal of his earlier offer, he apparently took offense. His earlier plans of renovating Starscream's station had come to fruition; now, it mounted a powerful superweapon, capable of destroying entire structures in one shot. He had it fire upon the Autobot transports as they left. When a team of Aerialbots attempted to disable or destroy it, he called Jetfire, now one of them, and taunted him about his past. He further mocked them when they destroyed the plasma coolant system without apparently having accounted for backups. Finally, during the attack he came into possession of information on Optimus Prime's location, and ordered Trypticon—the name of the weapon, for it was actually a Cybertronian—to fire upon it.

Trypticon, however, was forced into his natural form and defeated after he crash-landed on Cybertron. Megatron's reaction to this went unrecorded. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
[[File:WFCDS Defeat Omega Supreme.jpg|thumb|left|256px|Simple enough... OH GOD BULLETS.]]

Megatron was the Decepticon Leader during the final days of the Great War. After capturing an Autobot facility, and killing a cadet, Megatron revealed his plan to his troops. Megatron intended to conquer Trypticon Space Station, which had the means and power to manufacture Dark Energon: a variant of Energon which greatly increased the stamina and strength of its host. Megatron fought his way through the station to its commander, the Autobot Starscream. Upon Starscream's defeat, Starscream offered his services and the Dark Energon if he was spared. Megatron agreed, and Starscream joined the Decepticons.

After a test run of the Dark Energon in Kaon Prison, Soundwave deduced the element would only kill the host, but Starscream was able to find a way to fix it. Megatron then decided the time was right, and led his army to the inner levels of Cybertron. He was able to activate the uplink to channel energy from the Core of Cybertron itself to Trypticon Station, but he needed the Omega Key to access it once it was shut down with a firewall.

Megatron learned through a recording from Laserbeak that Autobot Leader Zeta Prime had the Omega Key in his possession and had holed up deep within Iacon. Megatron led a full-scale assault on the city, totally devastating Iacon, until he found Zeta Prime at last. After a hard battle, Zeta fell, and Megatron obtained the Omega Key. However, immediately upon taking it, alarms went off, and Iacon itself was shaking. Zeta Prime, despite being mortally wounded, laughed at Megatron's face, saying the Omega Key was only the key to the ''true'' key: the city-sized Autobot Omega Supreme.

Omega immediately attacked the victorious Decepticons, and quickly decimated their presence in Iacon, save for Megatron's team and a few others. By this point, Megatron was absolutely furious at Starscream: Megatron declared it was he who led them to Omega Supreme and the devastating onslaught he carried out. Starscream bitterly retorted even if Megatron killed him, Omega Supreme would still be out for his blood, helping nothing whatsoever. Megatron angrily let it go for the time being, and led his army to battle. His troops' confidence beginning to falter, Megatron declared they would either be kicking themselves for not acting for the rest of their lives, or heroes in a historic event. His men followed him to battle Omega, and the titan fell. Megatron was free to corrupt the Core of Cybertron with Dark Energon, and obtain near-supremacy of Cybertron.

That kind of went downhill when the new Autobot leader, Optimus Prime, extinguished the Dark Energon and destroyed Trypticon Space Station, didn't it? {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|War for Cybertron - Autobots/Decepticons}}

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===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)|[[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian)}}

Early in the war, when the Autobots learned of the existence of the orbiting superweapon [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]], Megatron sent waves of Decepticon forces to keep them from discovering more about it. Megatron, happy to see the destruction Trypticon was creating, ordered Starscream and Skywarp at gunpoint to return to Trypticon and clean up after it, while he took his troops into battle to scour the area for Autobots to kill. Few Autobots other than the medic, [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], were spared Megatron's initial assault.

When Megatron found out that Starscream had left his post at Trypticon, Megatron grew angry. But the Autobots had infiltrated the [[Datacore]], so Megatron focused his efforts there instead. Bumblebee was captured, and information useful for the taking of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] was pulled from his mind. Megatron assigned Skywarp the task of the initial Iacon assault. The traitorous Starscream returned to Megatron's focus, and the Air Commander was ordered to infiltrate the Core of Cybertron to reactivate the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]]. But Starscream took too long, discovering Megatron had already reached the Core by the time he arrived. In a foul mood, Megatron would test Starscream's loyalty by putting him on the Iacon assault's front lines.

The assault went as planned, and Iacon crumbled. As Barricade and Starscream reached an empty Council Chamber, Megatron alerted them to the evacuation of the surviving Autobots. Three Autobot ships positioned themselves to escape, and so Megatron ordered Thundercracker and Skywarp to take them down.

Though Iacon fell, the Trypticon orbiting superweapon was destroyed by the Autobots... but not before Megatron ripped the datacore from its brain so as to salvage its information on Dark Energon. Megatron was pleased. Despite his loss, he still had the upper hand. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)}}
[[File:Megatron FOC.png‎|thumb|left|upright=1.3|Seriously, Soundwave, where is my fusion cannon?! It was in your remodeling designs, for crying out loud...]]
When Cybertron had begun to die following the Core's shutdown, Megatron blamed [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], as he was the one who had ruined his plans for the planet. Megatron launched an attack on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] in order to destroy the Ark and get revenge. While commanding the battle from beneath one of his [[Warp Cannon]]s, he sent [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]], [[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]] and [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] to capture Optimus and bring him before him. As Megatron executed two Autobots before his Optimus' eyes, Optimus pleaded that they only wanted to leave Cybertron, but Megatron wasn't going to allow him. As the Warp Cannon prepared to destroy both the Ark, and the Decepticon leader to do the same to the Autobot leader, the newly awakened [[Metroplex (FOC)|Metroplex]] tore the roof off of the building they were in. Refusing to retreat, Megatron fired at the colossus, only to be pulverized by the giant Autobot's fist.

Due to Megatron's death, Starscream took control of the Decepticons and proceeded to run the organization into the ground by wasting resources and his failiure to inspire the troops. Unhappy with the change in management, [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] salvaged what was left of Megatron, rebuilt him into a new form in his Kaon laboratory, and reactivated him with a Dark Energon infusion. After awakening, Megatron was enraged to see that Starscream was in control, and then proceeded to crash Starscream's [[The Transformers: The Movie|coronation]] ceremony. Slaughtering the Seeker's loyalists, Megatron turned on Starscream and drove him off. [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] arrived to inform him of the [[Space Bridge]] technology he had discovered and [[Earth|an energy-rich planet]] for them to plunder, and they required a suitable power source for a transport to take them.

Due to Starscream's self-indulgence, the Decepticons' energon supply was dwindling, forcing Megatron to find more power. He decided to retrieve the power core from the fallen [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] and while doing so, he happily "reintroduced" himself to the Autobots. After arriving at Trypticon's crash site, he realized the beast was still alive and had Soundwave revitalize him. Megatron didn't know or care whether or not Trypticon was still sentient or not, but told the beast that since he had failed him, he would be rebuilt to Megatron's liking. Megatron then told Soundwave to initiate the "Nemesis Protocol" and permanently lock Trypticon in his [[alternate mode|alternate form]]: a transport ship which they would use to traverse the Space Bridge.

The ''Nemesis'' was quickly completed and the Space Bridge opened, and Megatron decided to leave Shockwave in charge of Cybertron in his absence. However, one of Shockwave's [[Grimlock (WFC)|experiments]] destroyed the tower, which reduced the time they have to reach the Space Bridge before it closed. Sending in Soundwave to lead his forces on the Ark, Megatron confronted Optimus and the two fought. Megatron prepared a devastating blow to his enemy with a cannon, only for [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] to take the shot for Optimus. Their battle reignited, the two leaders traded blows with swords, causing heavy damage to one another. But before a final blow could be delivered by either one of them, the Ark crumbled under the Space Bridge's force, and while Megatron shouted in anger, both ships were drawn through. {{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

{{note|Megatron also appears in the game's 'Escalation' mode. He fights alongside [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]], and [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]], on the 'Oblivion' map. He is the team's [[Tank (FOC)|Tank]].}}

=== ''Transformers: Prime - The Game'' ===
[[File:Transformers prime the game megatron.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|I think I'll force a servant of Unicron about ten times my size to serve me. That won't go horribly wrong at all.]]
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)}}
Megatron was present when the Decepticons were hauling in an asteroid rich with Dark Energon heading toward Earth. When the Autobots came to stop them, he decided to take matters into his own hands by going toe-to-toe with Optimus again. After they exchanged some wedding vows and got to dancing, the asteroid exploded and interrupted their fight. Megatron managed to survive by flying away, witnessing his enemies fall to Earth. Swiftly, Megatron commanded Starscream to organize a scouting team to retrieve the fallen Autobots.

Megatron was present when Optimus awoke to fight Thunderwing. Megatron commenced an attack on the Autobot with the Nemesis, but once the Autobot escaped, he quickly turned his attention to the giant in the asteroid. After an analysis by Knock Out, Megatron reasoned with the herald of Unicron by promising all of his missing components being returned to him if and only if he swore his undying allegiance to him. As such, Megatron and Starscream arrived at one location to retrieve a component while Dreadwing parted to another. While on their mission, Megatron and Starscream managed to run into their old pals Optimus & Bulkhead. Starscream took his fight to the bulk, leaving Megatron to battle his old foe once again. Megatron was somewhat defeated, but managed to retrieve the component.

Megatron witnessed Starscream attach the component to Thunderwing, and the two were surprised when Thunderwing continued to serve Unicron, even after their deal. Thunderwing attempted to destroy Megatron before making his escape, but he used Starscream as protection. Throwing his commander on the ground like scrap, he pursued Thunderwing only to meet with Autobots again. Megatron managed to make sport of Arcee, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead, but his third and final battle with Optimus resulted in his ultimate defeat.
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===''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''===
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===''Transformers Prime: Pulsar Defense''===
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===''Transformers Universe''===
[[File:Tu-character-art megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|left|Went from shark-face to scowl-face]]
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)}}

At some point during the Autobot-Decepticon war, Optimus Prime went missing. Megatron and his Decepticons searched the universe for the Autobot leader, but met heavy resistance from the Autobots, who fought to keep their leader's location a secret.

He appears in-game only as a hologram displayed in the ''Leviathan'', [[Switchblade (Prime)|Switchblade]]'s ship. {{storylink|Transformers Universe}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66| Fashionably asymmetrical.]]
*'''Cybertronian Megatron''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': clear purple missile, [[Fusion Cannon]]

: Part of the second wave of [[Transformers Generations|''Generations'']] toys, Cybertronian Megatron is a toy is based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', transforming into a Cybertronian self-propelled gun. The treads of his vehicle can be positioned in either a vertical configuration like a traditional tank, or in a horizontal hover-tank configuration. Megatron's spring-loaded cannon can attach to either arm. He also has an insignia on his back, but unlike Optimus, his is not hidden by kibble. Like [[Soundwave (WFC)#Generations|''War for Cybertron'' Soundwave]], his head has a light-piping gimmick that has been neutered by his painted eyes.

: Some units of the figure have Megatron's left internal shoulder strut misassembled, preventing that side of the tank mode from becoming properly flush to the body when transforming. This can be corrected by unscrewing and separating the outer shoulder structure, flipping the strut 180 degrees, and reassembling the shoulder covering.

: Also, the packaging image for his tank mode is flipped.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#United|Megatron Cybertron Mode]] and [[Darkside Megatron]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/GenerationsMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Cybertronian Megatron at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers (2010)===
[[File:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Nobody makes fun of Megatron's lovely skirt. Not more than once, anyway.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon, missile

:A [[redeco]] of Cybertronian Megatron with purple parts, a translucent purple cannon and purple and red paint details resembling the effects of [[Dark Energon]], available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee.

:The [[stock photography|stock photo]] to the right has his [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] mis-transformed. His treads are left almost untransformed as his arms, but with his hands folded inside the treads, and the top panel on his left shoulder hasn't been rotated and pegged between his shoulders/tank front. His [[robot mode]] is also mis-transformed, with his back panel not being pegged into his back and being left hanging behind his thighs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Decepticon/TRUROCMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Rage Over Cybertron Megatron at TFU.info]''

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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[File:Primetoy-MegatronEP.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His jet mode needs a little scarf attached to the robot head.]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Megatron: A Rivalry Reborn''' (Entertainment Pack, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon

: Part of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'', this Deluxe Class version of Megatron transforms into his alien ship mode. He comes with his Fusion Cannon, which can either be held with his hands in robot mode, or peg onto his jet mode by folding the handle in and pegging it behind his exposed, peeking head. It is also in this latter configuration for the cannon that the otherwise useless groove and tab on the cannon and its handle can be pegged onto the tab and otherwise useless socket on his right arm, giving him the classic, arm-mounted, yet ''strangely undocumented'' Fusion Cannon configuration shown in his [[stock photography]]. Funny enough, the blade from the Cyberverse Commander figure of the character can fit in the hole of the fusion cannon's mouth, which enables it to reenact fighting scenes with his sword.

: Speaking of undocumented features, his [[instructions]] show a noticeably different "completed" vehicle mode when compared to his stock photos. Specifically, the instructions completely neglect the extra steps to flip his wings out and form a more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] vehicle mode, opting instead for a more slender, wingless vehicle mode. To achieve this undocumented form, his underside leg panels must be opened, flipped around and over to the top of the ship, be pegged onto a tab on the side of his intakes, and his pointy wingtips must be flipped out from underneath. He also has some clearance issues when transforming. His intakes and the panel that surrounds his head in vehicle mode tend to collide when the intakes are snugly angled into and out of the panel, often resulting in the intakes popping off the (detachable) plastic hinges that they're on. He also comes somewhat mis-transformed in the package, with the positions of the intakes and the panel on his back being switched around, with the panel being placed ''after'' the intakes, instead of ''before''. (Yeah, its nearly impossible to do that, but for the sake of show-accuracy...)

: He comes with a similarly-scaled [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#EntertainmentPack|Optimus Prime]] and PVC figurines of [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)#Prime|Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel#EntertainmentPack|Raf Esquivel]], as well as a DVD of the "Series Premiere" episode "[[Masters & Students]]".

: The toy was later retooled and redecoed into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Rampage (BW)#Timelines|Rampage]] and [[Shokaract#Timelines|Pirate Hunter]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Decepticon/PrimeEPMegatron/megatron.htm More information on ''First Edition'' Megatron at TFU.info]''

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*'''Megatron''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Number:'' '''005'''
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon

: The Japanese release of Deluxe Class Megatron was packaged by itself on a card. The instructions show the proper vehicle mode, how to attach his fusion cannon to his arm, and the figure is transformed correctly in the box.

:The figure shares its ID number with the US release of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]] [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]], which was not released in Japan's ''First Edition'' line.

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===Cyberverse===
[[File:TF-Cyberverse-Commander-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Megatron''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2012)
** ''Series / Number'': '''02 / 004'''
** ''Japanese Release Date'': '''3-31-2012'''
** ''Japanese Number'': '''EZ-02'''
** ''Accessories'': Cyber sword

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 2|Series 2 ''Cyberverse'']] Commander Class toys, Megatron features translucent purple plastic on his entire torso (although with the chest panels covering a portion of it) so that he can be illuminated by the lights from the larger play-sets. He comes with a translucent hard-plastic "cyber sword" weapon which features two [[C joint|3mm post]]s and a peg-hole in-between, allowing it to peg into either his hands, right wrist, left arm, Fusion Cannon, or back. The Hasbro release comes with a pack-in file card. Sadly, this toy boasts an incredibly accurate robot mode at the cost of a barely passable attempt at an alternate mode.

:In addition to the regular version, Megatron was also released in a special "advance release" assortment alongside [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Cyberverse|Optimus Prime]], [[Bulkhead (Prime)#Cyberverse|Bulkhead]], and [[Starscream (WFC)#Cyberverse|Starscream]], with each figure including a mini-DVD that contains the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Masters & Students]]". Yes, all four of them come with the same episode.

:While the transformation-related post on his arm-mounted Fusion Cannon may seem 3mm-compatible, it is actually slightly too big, and mounting the sword onto it may cause the sword's peg-hole to crack.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/CommMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Cyberverse Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:PrimeEZCollectionDecepticonSet.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Decepticon Set''' (EZ Collection 6-pack, [[November 24|11-24]]-2012)
**''ID number'': '''EZ-SP2'''
**''Accessories'': Cyber sword

: This redeco of Megatron is cast in darker metallic-gray plastics. He was only available in a TakaraTomy ''[[EZ Collection]]'' six-pack with the [[Vehicon (Prime)#EZ6pack|Vehicon]], [[Breakdown (WFC)#EZ6pack|Breakdown]], [[Starscream (WFC)#EZ6pack|Starscream]], [[Knock Out (Prime)#EZ6pack|Knock Out]], and [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#EZ6pack|Terrorcon Cliffjumper]].

: Oddly, his sword is cast in a significantly more flexible plastic than the one that comes with his Hasbro counterpart. [[For safety reasons|Usually, it's the other way round.]]

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*'''Unicron Megatron''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2014)
** ''Series / Number'': '''3 / 010'''
**''Accessories'': [[Dark Energon]] sword

: Part of the final wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]] Cyberverse'' Commander Class toys, Unicron Megatron is a straight [[redeco]] of Series 2 ''Cyberverse'' Commander Class Megatron, reflecting his depiction following his resurrection at the hands of [[Unicron]] in ''[[Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising]]''. His "Dark Energon sword" is a minimal recolor of the original Megatron's Cyber sword, in a slightly darker, more saturated shade of purple. As a straight redeco of a series 2 figure, Unicron Megatron is the only series 3 Commander Class figure to feature translucent plastic parts.

:Due to being released after the Christmas season and before the launching of the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|''Age of Extinction'' toy line]], Unicron Megatron and the other figures of his [[wave]] were ultimately only available in Hong Kong, Canada and Europe.
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===Prime===
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[[File:PrimeRIDtoy-MegatronPowerizer.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|And it's like the sky is new.]]
[[File:Primetoy-MegatronDarkness.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|All he needs now is a [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|hooded cloak]].]]
*'''Megatron''' (Voyager, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''01 / 002'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''[[July 28|7-28]]-2012'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''AM-15'''
**''Accessories'': Cannon & Combat Claw (Hasbro only), "Gora II" & "Hades" Arms Microns (TakaraTomy only)

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Voyager Class toys, this larger-scale Megatron also has a fair amount of translucent purple plastic in the torso and forearms, allowing them to be illuminated by the various light-up Voyager Class weapons in this line. He comes with two weapons: an arm cannon that deploys and illuminates (via LED) an under-slung blade when a plunger is pushed, as well as a combat claw. Both weapons peg via [[5mm post]] onto his hands, wrists, forearms, robot back, and vehicle roof. The combat claw pegs into his wrist, allowing the handle to rest on his hands as if he were holding it. The claw can also mount onto a peg-hole on top of the cannon when not in use.

: The TakaraTomy release of Voyager Megatron sports many differences. '''Megatron Darkness''', part of the fifth wave of Japanese ''Prime'' product, is said to be Megatron's reborn form, having "come back from Hell" (aka the events of "[[Sick Mind]]" and "[[Out of His Head]]"). His base plastics are shades of cold-gray as opposed to the [[Hasbro]] warm-grays, and his chestplates, shoulderplates and head have been given a silver [[Vacuum metallizing|vac-metal]] finish. He comes with a silver-foil [[sticker]] sheet that adds a lot of purple filigree designs to him in a matter similar to the [[e-HOBBY]] [[exclusive]] [[Galvatron II#Toys|Galvatron II]]. The Hasbro accessories have been replaced with a pair of [[Arms Micron]] kits; [[Gora#II|Gora II]], a gorilla that becomes Megatron's fusion cannon, and [[Hades]], a massive bat that becomes a winged backpack or a giant scythe weapon.

:People who purchased Megatron Darkness from Ion stores on his release date got a free [[Gul#Hellflame|Hellflame Gul]] Arms Micron (while supplies last). Those who preordered Megatron Darkness through Amazon Japan got a free [[B.2#Shining|Shining B.2 Arms Micron]] with their order.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm More information on Voyager Megatron at TFU.info]''

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1623.html Megatron Darkness at Alfes's Toy Blog]''

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[[File:Prime-toy MegatronTakTomDx.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Megatron tries to get the monkey off his back.]]
* '''Megatron''' (Deluxe, [[March 31|3-31]]-[[2012|12]])
** ''ID number:'' '''AM-05'''
** ''Accessories:'' "Gora" Arms Micron

: As part of the first wave of the Japanese ''Prime'' line, this toy is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]]ing of the First Edition Megatron toy. He has had some of his [[paint operation]]s replaced with customer-applied foil [[sticker]]s (mostly the silver bits on his pelvis). His "backpack" has also been retooled to add 5mm posts and post-holes as part of the line-wide Arms Micron gimmick. Rather than coming with his original fusion cannon, he instead comes with [[Gora]], a gorilla-like robot who transforms into the fusion cannon, complete with flip-out blades.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1469.html Arms Micron Megatron at Alfes's blog]''

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[[File:Primetoy-MegatronDarkEnergon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"So, [[TakaraTomy|they]] think they can outdo [[Hasbro|us]] by giving their [[black repaint]] chrome, eh? We'll show them! Give him more translucent plastic!"]]
*'''Megatron''' (Dark Energon Voyager, 2012)
**''Number'': '''001'''
**''Accessories'': Cannon & Combat Claw

: ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Dark Energon Series|Prime: Dark Energon]]'' Megatron is a [[BigBadToyStore]]-exclusive redeco of RID Megatron, being cast in opaque dark blue, lavender, light-gray, and black plastics, and having warmer translucent-purple plastic. The entirety of his forearms and shoulder-pads are now cast in translucent-purple plastic, and his purple paint operations have been replaced by pink.

:Though he was packaged on an individual box, he was initially sold as part of a set with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#DarkEnergon|Dark Energon Optimus Prime]]. He was eventually made available on his own, and all of the Dark Energon Series toys were eventually made available in Singapore as mass-retail releases. The Voyager Class toys, in particular, also saw mass-retail release in the Philippines.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/DEMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Dark Energon Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:Primetoy-FinalBattleMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Because it would be <s>non-aerodynamic</s> silly to mount the saber onto the back of the vehicle mode like a giant tail-fin.]]
*'''Final Battle Megatron''' (Voyager, [[February 25|2-25]]-2013)
**''ID number'': '''AM-33'''
**''Accessories'': Shadow Gabu, Shadow Baru, & Shadow Dai Arms Microns

: Part of the eleventh and final assortment of TakaraTomy ''Prime'' toys, Final Battle Megatron is the most [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] redeco of the original ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Voyager mold to date, with silver paint across much of the figure, and is specifically intended to represent his appearance in the episodes "[[Alpha/Omega]]" through "[[Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour]]". As such, his right forearm is decoed (but sadly not remolded) to resemble [[Liege Maximo (WFC)|Liege Maximo]]'s forearm that he substitutes for his own in those episodes. Also per the show, he comes with the "[[Dark Star Saber|Dark Energon Saber]]" in a place of a fusion cannon, which is represented by a smoky-translucent-black redeco of the [[Dark Matter Calibur]] [[Arms Micron#"Arms Up"|Super Combo Weapon]], composed of the Arms Microns [[Gabu#Shadow|Shadow Gabu]], [[Baru#Shadow|Shadow Baru]], and [[Dai#Shadow|Shadow Dai]].

:This figure was originally solicited as "Darkest Megatron".

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===Beast Hunters===
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[[File:PrimeBHtoy-SharkticonMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|''I'M A SHAAAARK / I'M A SHAAAAARK / SUCK MY [[Fusion cannon|FUSION CANNON]] / I'M A SHAAAAAARK'']]
*'''Megatron'''/'''Sharkticon Megatron''' (Voyager, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''02 / 006'''
**''Accessories'': Tartarex Warp Sword/Sharktooth Spear

:Part of the fourth wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' Voyager Class toys, Megatron is an extensive [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]-[[Homage|homaging]] [[retool]] of his ''Prime: Robots In Disguise'' toy. He transforms into a "beast jet", and he has a unique Decepticon insignia with beady eyes and a gaping maw of sharp teeth. He comes equipped with the [[Tartarex Warp Sword]], a fish-themed cannon that can convert into a sword-harpoon thing which can he can wield via its 5mm handle.

:He has a minor assembly error in that the two-pronged sections within his shoulder-pads are swapped, preventing the shoulder-pads from slotting in place properly in his "beast jet" mode. They can be reversed by popping the pads off their [[ball joint]]s, unscrewing the shoulder-pads, and swapping the parts. Good luck popping the shoulder-pads off their ball joints, though.

:His [[instructions]] refer to him as "Sharkticon Megatron" and his weapon the "Sharktooth Spear". There also exists a [[packaging]] [[variant]] for this toy: Early shipments simply called the toy "Megatron" and his weapon the "Tartarex Warp Sword", whereas a later running change version changed the packaging to reflect the names given in the instructions. His instructions also include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 22|twenty-second chapter]] of the ''[[Tales of the Beast Hunters]]'' series.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/SharkticonMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Sharkticon Megatron at TFU.info]''

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==Merchandise==
===McDonald's===
[[File:Primetoy-MegatronHappyMeal.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Megatron''' (Happy Meal, 2012)
:*''McNumber:'' '''2'''
:Happy Meal Megatron is a nontransformable space jet! A spring-loaded paddle is launched when his robot mode head is pressed down, and when the fusion cannon on the back of the vehicle is pushed forward, a yellow LED shines out the front of it. An on/off switch on the jet's underside enables or disables the light feature.

===Eaglemoss cards===
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==Notes==
[[File:Tfprimemegatronjet.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Too fast for screen caps.]]
[[File:VectorSigmaBotBuilderMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Green With Evil.]]
*Megatron's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Destroyer-type chassis for [[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]]-class characters. His parts are also available in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Gunner-type components for [[Titan (FOC)|Titan]]-class characters.
*As revealed in [[One Shall Rise, Part 3]], Megatron used to have blue optics.
*Megatron's designation as an energon miner was "D-16".<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 War for Cybertron timeline].</ref> Megatron's original [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] was "16". Takara would eventually change the numbering system using a "D" to denote [[Decepticon|Destrons]]. So Megatron's Japanese ID number could retroactively be considered "D-16".
*In ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'', Megatron has multiple glitches when controlled by the computer, among them shrinking (quite hilariously), losing his Fusion Cannon, and having his Tank mode cannon stick straight up (also humorous). He may be the most glitchy character in the game.
*The show design of this version of Megatron takes visual cues from both Generation 1 (the ever-famous [[Megatron (G1)|buckethead]] and lower legs resembling a pistol's handgrip) and [[Megatron (Movie)|the movie version]] of the Decepticon leader (the sharp angles and bits on his shoulders, along with two-toed feet and a demonic-looking face with sharp shark-like teeth), even including the jet mode the latter version appeared in.
*The ''Prime'' staff used the rationale that Megatron would not scan an Earth mode out of disgust at humans.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/botcon-2010-transformers-prime-panel-coverage-170054/ BotCon 2010 Transformers Prime Panel Coverage]</ref> According to Cybertronian Megatron's packaging bio, Megatron often changes his [[alternate mode]], probably in an attempt to explain why he's a tank in the game and a jet in the cartoon.
* Megatron's body parts are available to use in the Hub website's [[Vector Sigma Bot Builder]] online game. Normally, you cannot configure a generic 'bot using all Megatron parts, but you can see what one would look like at right through the magic of Photoshop.
* A running gag in the advertisements is that Megatron, the evil leader of the Decepticons who once nearly took over Cybertron, is a [[Wikipedia:Brony|Brony]].
** According to the ''[[Commercial/Prime#2012|Transformers: Prime 26 Hour Takeover Marathon]]'' promos, his favorite song is the [[theme song|theme]] to ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]]''.
** According to an [[Commercial/Prime#2013|Ask Megatron]] segment, his ideal form of relaxation involves traveling to the dark side of Pluto and drawing Rainbow Dash fanart.
** And then there are [[Commercial/Prime#2011|The Hub Summer]] and [[Commercial/Prime#2011|The Hub Carolers]] promos, in which he joins Pinkie Pie, Applejack and Rainbow Dash (his favorite!) for various musical numbers.
*A note in the Autobots edition of [[Darkmount, NV]] states that he enjoys online cat videos.

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===Arms Up Modes===
In the Japanese ''Prime'' toyline, Megatron has named powered-up modes when given various [[Arms Micron]]s in certain configurations:

*'''Crusher Mode''' (クラッシャーモード ''Kurasshā Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Balo, Gora
: Megatron's "Crusher Mode", as seen on his box-back photo, uses a combined-weapon made up of Gora in "extended-cannon" mode, with [[Balo]] in drill mode at the end, attached to Megatron's arm.

*'''Darkness Mode''' (ダークネスモード ''Dākunesu Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Balo (x2), Gora II, Gul, Hades, Igu, Jida, Noji, Zori
: This is one heavy loadout! Megatron Darkness's Arms Up Mode has him wearing [[Hades]] as wings, with [[Noji]] and [[Igu]] in weapon modes in the inner part of each wing, and a pair of [[Balo]]s in shield/[[shuriken]] mode, one on each wingtip. (Presumably, Balo G will work as a substitute for one of them.) He carries [[Jida]] in scissors mode in his left hand, and wields the [[Planet Bowgun]] in his right.

*'''Ultimate Mode''' (アルティメットモード ''Aruteimetto Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Gora II E, Gul B, Ida B, Noji B, Shadow Baru, Shadow Dai, Shadow Gabu, Zori CS
: BIG SWORD. This version uses Final Battle Megatron for its base. The Dark Energon Saber is augmented by adding Gora II E and Gul B to the end, as Megatron wears Ida B as an arm-guard on the Prime arm, while Noji B and Zori CS make a back-mounted cannon. Hoo boy.

===Foreign names===

*''Mandarin:'' {{hanyu|'''Megaton'''|密卡登|Mìkǎdēng|Taiwan}}, {{hanyu|'''Wēi Zhèn Tīan'''|威震天||lit. "Extremely Prestigious" or "Heaven-shaking Might", China}}

==References==
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The Transformers: Drift

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[[Image:Drift TPB.jpg|thumb|right|230px|"Have I mentioned that I am Japanese today?"]]
'''''The Transformers: Drift''''' is a four-issue, bi-weekly<ref>[http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2010/03/transformational-drift.html Chris Ryall blogs about Transformers: Drift.]</ref> limited series published in 2010, starring, well, [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], and delving deep into his mysterious past. It is set in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]].

Because '''you''' demanded it!

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* [[Drift issue 2|#2]]
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==Overview==
{{quote|What was it that caused one of the Decepticon's most ruthless soldiers to turn his back on the Decepticon army and what is the ancient secret that lies hidden deep within an alien planet? All this and more as the origin of the newest Autobot, [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], is finally revealed!}}

==Creative team==
Written by [[Shane McCarthy]] with art by [[Alex Milne]] and colors by [[Josh Perez]].

==Notes==
* The series was leaked due to an Amazon.com listing of its trade paperback,<ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Drift-Shane-McCarthy/dp/1600107680/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1268585225&sr=8-1 Amazon.com listing for the Transformers: Drift trade paperback]</ref> which prompted [[Chris Ryall]] to make an official announcement on his blog.

==Collections==
* '''''Transformers: Drift''''' TPB <small>([[January 5]], [[2011]]) ISBN 1600107680 / ISBN 978-1600108556</small>
:* Bonus material includes all covers, as well as character sketches by Alex Milne.

* '''''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Volume Four]]''''' <small>([[May 25]], 2011) ISBN 1600109381 / ISBN 978-1600109386</small>

==References==
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==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
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== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"
A
http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks

==Question==
Is this the right place to put questions, if not where. Also how do I insert captions? {{unsigned|Pzzone}}
:That depends on what type of question (this page is for discussing the wiki as a whole). Also please note that new sections on talk pages should go at the bottom (if you click on the "+" tab next to the "edit" tab it will do that automatically, and you should sign talk page posts by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your comment (the second button from the right on the toolbar immediately over the edit window will insert that for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:57, 11 February 2015 (EST)

Like this? Could you answer my previous question? Also how do I link a page without directly writing it's name. Eg. Linking God to Primus (I'm not actually going to)

Oh never mind void this, I saw your message. Thx and I apologize for pestering you.

== Seibertron image gallery links ==

Bass X0 has been adding these to pages lately, but I wonder if we really need them. What added benefit does it give our users? And why THEIR image galleries as opposed to the uncounted legions of other TF photo sites? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:42, 12 February 2015 (EST)
:...yeah, he was not given permission to make that wide-sweeping change. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:46, 12 February 2015 (EST)

== what links here ==

When you open a pic on TFWiki and scroll down, there's a section called "File usage" saying "The following page(s) link(s) to this file". Sometimes these lists are incomplete. (My most recent encounter with this phenomenon is [[:File:TF2015-Legends1.jpg|this pic]], which only lists [[Toy Fair 2015]] even though i've now linked [[Viper]] and [[insignia]] to that pic.) How does that "File usage" list get updated? --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 02:24, 19 February 2015 (EST)
:That list only shows pages the picture is used on. It doesn't show pages that link to it as a text link. You have to click on "What links here" on the left hand menu to see a complete list. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:42, 19 February 2015 (EST)
::Despite the wording, it counts only pages which EMBED the images. [[Special:WhatLinksHere/File:TF2015-Legends1.jpg]] shows the full list of links for that file. (If you really need them to show on the file usage list, perhaps to keep them off [[Special:UnusedFiles]], add <nowiki>[[File:FILENAME.EXT|1x1px]]</nowiki> - replacing FILENAME.EXT with the actual filename, of course! - after your text link.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 02:44, 19 February 2015 (EST)
:::Good to know, thanks! --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 01:31, 20 February 2015 (EST)

== Robots in Disguises ==

i feel like it's misleading (or at least potentially confusing to new fans) to use the same disambiguation suffix for characters (or ships or whatever else we wind up writing up) from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|2015 Robots in Disguise]] series as well as the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 Car Robots/in Disguise]] series. URLs and links for [[Fixit (RID)]] and [[Slapper (RID)]], for example, make it look like the characters are from the same continuity, but they're not. Plus, what will we do if the 2015 series has someone named, say, [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], or [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], or [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] or [[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] or [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]]? We've already got a [[Grimlock (RID)]] who's not [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|RID]] [[Grimlock_(WFC)#Robots_in_Disguise_.282015.29|Grimlock]] and a [[Side Swipe (RID)]] who's not [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|RID]] [[Sideswipe_(WFC)#Robots_in_Disguise_.282015.29|Sideswipe]]. Maybe something like [[Ironhide (2015)]] or [[Mirage (RID 2015)]] or [[Scourge (RID'15)]]? [[Cartoon Network|Prowl (CN), Rollbar (CN RID)]]? --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:00, 22 February 2015 (EST)
:Disambig parentheticals have never been about telling which continuity a character is from. And any confusion shouldn't last long because '''literally''' the first sentence on any character article tells you what continuity they're from. If there do wind up being cases where there's one in both franchises, we'd likely use (RID 2001) and (RID 2015), much like we already use (Universe 2003) and (Universe 2008) when necessary. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 08:38, 22 February 2015 (EST)
::Disambig parentheticals for characters are by franchise of origin as first choice. That is one piece of information that they are supposed to carry. An RID or Universe disambig fails that test. Those parentheticals, while not strictly wiki-ambiguous are real world ambiguous. Agree to changing the standards to reflect this. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:11, 22 February 2015 (EST)

== I'm pretty sure that's it! ==

In case anyone has missed my massive amounts of edits clogging up the recent changes page (sorry about that), I've been working hard for a little while to make sure that every characters' page has every instance of them showing up in every kind of fiction listed. If anyone notices that I've missed something (and is too busy or whatever to do it themselves) please let me know and I'll try to keep it up to date. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:49, 22 February 2015 (EST)

=== Micro Comic Fun Pack ===

IDW released these small packages last year(?) containing a sticker, temporary tattoo, micro comic, and mirco poster in a series of 4. Characters focused on were Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Grimlock, and Drift. Someone who has more info regarding this line of products should probably start a new page about said comics, as I do not currently possess said products.

Also BTW how do I link a word to a page? I apologize for my unprofessionalism as I'm new to this wiki, all wikis at that.

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2015-02-25T03:56:18Z

Pzzone:

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2015-02-25T03:54:42Z

Pzzone:

MediaWiki:Captions

2015-02-12T18:50:30Z

Pzzone: /* Captions and jokes we're sick of */

[[Image:Captions wearenotwikipedia.png|thumb|400px|A picture is worth 1000 words.]]

Unlike most Wikis, '''{{SITENAME}}''' does not have a complete ban on humor, particularly in image captions where a description saying "a picture of Generation 1 Megatron" on a page about Generation 1 Megatron with "Megatron (G1)" in big bold letters at the top with "Megatron" bolded in the opening paragraph would be just a ''wee'' bit redundant. Instead, we prefer to lighten things up with humorous image captions, because ''Transformers'' is inherently ridiculous, and denying this probably isn't healthy.

{{SITENAME}} is a fun community which welcomes new members' contributions with open arms. That said... if your idea of "contributing" is to change the existing jokes to new, "funnier" jokes... '''don't'''. This holds true for changing them to blanks or boring, patently-obvious descriptors as well.

__TOC__

==Why?==
There are several reasons we discourage new users from editing image captions.

* Your jokes probably aren't any funnier.
* Funny image captions are like a ''fun bonus'' you get to do when you make a page or a new section or upload a needed image. For the people who wrote the text, or found and edited the images, this is their reward for that hard work. If you're not expanding the article, you really shouldn't be making jokes.
* If you're ''changing'' a joke, you're removing content created by a user who's contributed to this community, and replacing it with something from someone (yourself) who has not.

{{messagebox|header=Simple Rule of Thumb|message_text=If you haven't contributed anything, don't change the image captions.}}

==Removing joke captions==
[[Image:Captions.png|right|frame|Edits which do nothing but change the funny image captions to ''new'' funny image captions, or remove those captions altogether, are reverted to their original state.]]
You will be banned if you repeatedly remove jokes simply for the sake of doing so despite warnings given. The humor thing has been discussed at length for quite a long time; the policy will not change, and trying to "make a point" will only result in us removing the troublemaker.

{{-}}

==Adding joke captions==
* '''Some jokes are not appropriate.'''

:We have guidelines about what level of humor is and is not acceptable; try to stick to "PG-13" or lower. Bear in mind the four-letter f-word indicating copulation is ''right'' out. Racial, gender and sexuality slurs are similarly ''verboten''.

* '''It is okay for an image to have a factual caption, or *gasp* ''no caption at all''.'''

:Please note that an image without a caption is '''not''' an open invitation for anyone to come along and slap in whatever thought first crosses their mind. A captionless image is not some grievous error in need of immediate correction. Minimal-contributing editors who add captions in such instances are rarely doing the wiki a service.

:Also, on occasion, a caption ''needs'' to be informative, not irreverent. Sometimes, a descriptor ''is'' necessary to describe the contents (such as [[Gang-molding|just what pattern you should be recognizing here in regards to the plastic colors]]), and a joke will only obfuscate or confuse the purpose of the image.

:We ''allow'' humor. We don't ''discourage'' it. But we certainly don't ''mandate'' it, either. The purpose of this wiki is to convey information; the jokes are an occasional bonus, not the driving force.

* '''Having no caption is better than having an outright dumb, inane, pointless, badly-written or unfunny one.'''

:As with pretty much everything else, we demand ''quality''. While humor is highly subjective, a joke caption should generally have ''some'' kind of thought, reasoning, or intelligence behind it.

:If you can't even punctuate or capitalize, don't bother. If you haven't contributed substantive content, don't bother. If your joke caption isn't funny enough to make ''you'' laugh, don't bother. If your "joke" is so obscure or internalized that nobody on Earth will ever grasp it except for just you, ''don't bother.'' We have plenty of jokes already.

:Regular contributors who decide not to add humorous captions to images they've uploaded or inserted into articles are encouraged to add more "standard", factually descriptive captions instead if neccessary. We would much rather have that than weak attempts at humor by non-contributing editors. And while "A picture of Megatron" is inane and redundant, "Megatron's [[Package art|box art]] painting from his 1984 toy", while not ''necessary'' (since such detailed information would be part of the image file's content), is at least informative and intelligent.

==Captions and jokes we're sick of==
Or, ways to earn a quick revert:
* Linking the word "God" to the [[Primus]] article. "Oh [[Primus|God]], not again!" Overdone? Yes. Funny? No.
* Linking the word "crazy" to the [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] article. Do it and we'll give you something to scream about!
* Anything involving "Soundwave superior". Previous caption superior! Your caption inferior.
* Gratuitous word-linking to "[[To sell toys]]" and "[[Ruined FOREVER]]".
* "[[Dull surprise]]!" Yeah, we get it. Thanks. It'll take new depths of awfulness to actually merit using this.
* Changing every single Omega Supreme caption to match his speech quirk. Joke: overdone. Humor: deceased.
* Jokes about how someone with a large weapon or whatever else is "compensating" for something.
* Remarks about how someone or something is "not" someone or something else that they might vaguely resemble, or "not" "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" whatever.
* "I'm here to kick ass and chew energon/bubblegum/anything else!"
* ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]''. Yes, we know. We all know. It's over with. Let it go, Indiana.
* "Yes, she is a girl."
* The many things [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] hates. Which coincidentally includes all of the above.
* "Orange you glad to see me ."

===Jokes we're not sick of===
* KNOW that [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]]'s running gag never gets old!
* Since the jokes in the previous section are surplus to requirements, you must wonder what chance [[Furmanism]]s have. The answer: a very good one.

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Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition

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'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition''' is a prequel to the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|''Dark of the Moon'' film]] that was made exclusively for Nintendo Wii and 3DS. It differs from the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|console version]] greatly, as the entire game is played in vehicle mode without the ability to transform into robot mode. It received highly negative reviews overall.
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==External links==
*[http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/transformers-dark-of-the-moon---stealth-force-edition Metacritic]
*[http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/2011/07/transformers_dark_of_the_moon_stealth_force_edition_3ds 3DS review]
*[http://mygamecorner.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/transformers-dark-of-moon-thrusts.html Wii Review]

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'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Stealth Force Edition''' is a prequel to the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|''Dark of the Moon'' film]] that was made exclusively for Nintendo Wii and 3DS. It differs from the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|console version]] greatly, as the entire game is played in vehicle mode without the ability to transform into robot mode. It received highly negative reviews overall.
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==External links==
*[http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/transformers-dark-of-the-moon---stealth-force-edition Metacritic]
*[http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/2011/07/transformers_dark_of_the_moon_stealth_force_edition_3ds 3DS review]
*[http://mygamecorner.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/transformers-dark-of-moon-thrusts.html Wii Review]

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Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons

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'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots''' and '''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Decepticons''' were released on [[June 14]], [[2011]] for the [[Nintendo DS]]. Both games were developed by [[Behaviour Interactive]] who had previously released ''[[Transformers Animated: The Game]]'', and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]. Like the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|console version]], they are prequels to the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' film. They are third-person, over-the-shoulder shooters, and feature both a campaign and multi-player mode.

==Gameplay==
[[File:DOTMDS Optimus shoots dudes.jpg|thumb|300px|Pew pew pew]]
For each mission, there is set character, although once the game has been completed you can go back and replay missions with any playable character. The characters have a primary fire, which is more or less a machine gun with unlimited ammo, and secondary fire in the form of rockets, for which have a limited amount of ammo. More rockets can be obtained by defeating certain foes, which are so numerous you will practically never run out anyway. The character's health is divided between energy, which can be replenished by picking up [[energon cube]]s dropped by defeated opponents, and "shield", which slowly regenerates over time. While in vehicle mode, Transformers can go into [[Stealth Force]] mode, making available machine guns, but not the secondary weapon.

Additional abilities include hacking—pressing the radar icon and aiming at a satellite dish or turret reveals a randomly flashing faction [[insignia]]. Pressing the insignia when it matches your faction hacks the target. Hacked turrets will fire on your enemies, which makes them semi-useful when the game doesn't immediate block you off from them afterwards with a force field. Pressing the A button near certain objects will allow you to pick them up (if the game's feeling charitable) and throw them at enemies. Characters also have special abilities allowing them to reach hidden areas—for instance Mirage can run along walls, while Soundwave can run on overhead wires.

Upgrades are faction-wide and require collecting "upgrade slots" which appear as small spinning objects, and gaining XP. Between levels, a number of upgrades can be bought from the upgrades screen by spending an upgrade slot and 250XP, giving the player more health, shield, or boosting the primary and secondary fire.

==Synopsis==
===Autobot campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Urban Devastation'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]]
[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and Bumblebee meet downtown, where they discuss the recent attacks. Believing them to be the work of the [[Decepticon]]s, Optimus sends Bumblebee to investigate, and the small [[Autobot]] quickly discovers that the city is indeed crawling with Decepticons.

'''Chapter 2: Heavy Industry'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
Optimus contacts Ironhide with more bad news. The Decepticons are attacking on two fronts: [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is trying to bring the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s back online, while [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] is attacking a nearby industrial park. Ironhide goes to the Industrial Park to investigate, and is forced to protect a number of buildings from Decepticon attack, while Starscream shoots down numerous fuel stacks.

'''Chapter 3: The Best Defense...'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Optimus finds Ratchet on the way to the Stadium to check out a disturbance. Optimus opts to go instead, as Ratchet's services are better utilized back at base, but Ratchet warns him before he leaves that they've intercepted a Decepticon transmission about something called [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. Optimus goes to investigate the Stadium and briefly tangles with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]].

'''Chapter 4: Strong Foundations'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]
Mirage finds Ratchet in a worried state as the Decepticons are up to something at a NEST construction site. Promising to investigate, Mirage finds [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] messing up the place, and is forced to chase him down.

'''Chapter 5: Burning Air'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Ratchet and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] contact Optimus to warn him that Decepticons are attacking all over NEST's Pacific island base. Wheeljack additionally warns him that [[Crowbar]] is a dangerous foe. Optimus drives all over the island bashing Decepticons and protecting the buildings, but fails to encounter Crowbar.

'''Chapter 6: Into the Fire'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
After Lockdown gets into the NEST base and starts targeting the satellite dishes in an attempt to shut down Autobot communications, Rachet sends Mirage to scour the base and reactivate the dishes. Lockdown is not seen in this level, however.

'''Chapter 7: Dangerous Experiments'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Mirage reports to Ironhide that he's chasing Lockdown within the base. As Ironhide goes to join the hunt, Optimus Prime contacts everyone with the extremely urgent message not to engage Soundwave. Ironhide tells the Autobot soldier to stay on watch and then proceeds to chase Lockdown around the base and finally catches up with him.

'''Chapter 8: Volcano Overdrive'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
As Bumblebee stands ready, Ratchet tells him that Soundwave and Crowbar are in the area. Bumblebee needs to track them down, however, and this is the important part, he has to let Soundwave escape. It's part of Optimus's plan. Bumblebee sets out and quickly finds and attacks Crowbar, however he suddenly runs into [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]]! Bumblebee fights Starscream all over the island as Crowbar and Soundwave escape.

'''Chapter 9: Hunters and Prey'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
Starscream, as it turns out, has stolen a piece of [[MechTech|Mechtech]], which luckily has a built-in tracking system. The Autobots have traced him to [[Siberia]], and Mirage goes in to stealthily scope the place out by shooting Decepticons.

'''Chapter 10: Bitter Winds'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
At the Decepticon base, Ratchet briefs Ironhide on the situation—there are radar stations built all around it which must be taken out. Also Ratchet's decoded a transmission indicating that Shockwave is a deadly Decepticon assassin! Ironhide moves through the valley, hacking the Decepticon computers to clear a way for the Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Heart of Ice'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
Ironhide, Bumblebee and Ratchet meet up inside the Decepticon base. Ratchet sends Bumblebee to scout ahead, cautioning him that Megatron may be around. Luckily Bumblebee just finds a whole bunch of Decepticons to shoot.

'''Chapter 12: Cold Machinery'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Optimus arrives, and Ironhide tells him that the Decepticons are completely cut off. Megatron and possibly Shockwave are there. Optimus decides he must go in alone, and tells the others to follow him when he gives the signal. A short time after Optimus goes in, the Autobots receive a weak transmission from him to say that Megatron and Shockwave have escaped, so Ironhide goes after them. He manages to track Megatron, fighting furiously with the Decepticon leader, but Megatron manages to get away. Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

===Decepticon campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Demolition'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]
[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] relays news to Soundwave that [[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] has ordered a two-pronged assault. While [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is in charge of one, Starscream is in charge of an attack on a [[NEST]] facility, and he wants Soundwave to provide a diversion. Soundwave is skeptical that these are Megatron's orders, but decides to check up on it later and goes and wreaks havoc in a nearby industrial park as a diversion.

'''Chapter 2: Desperation Play'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Crowbar]]
Starscream finds Crowbar equally back-chatty when he tells Crowbar to create another diversion near the Stadium to keep the Autobots distracted from the NEST facility. Crowbar proceeds to make as much of a distraction as he can downtown, also encountering Ironhide within the staidum.

[[File:DOTMDS Lockdown chases Optimus.jpg|thumb|300px|Come back here, you coward!]]
'''Chapter 3: Shipping Out'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]
Meanwhile, Starscream sends Lockdown into the NEST facility to look for any information the Autobots have gathered on [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] or Operation: Pillar. Lockdown successfully infiltrates the base, though he spends most of his time chasing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] around.

'''Chapter 4: Deconstruction Site'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
The stolen data secure, Lockdown escapes the NEST base and reports back to Starscream. Starscream notes that the Autobots have taken over an abandoned [[Sector Seven|Sector 7]] base in the Pacific, and dispatches Lockdown there. Lockdown immediately encounters [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] and defeats the Autobot soundly.

'''Chapter 5: Hostile Territory'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Crowbar has also arrived at the island, and Starscream warns him that Optimus is somewhere there. Crowbar wanders around knocking down buildings, but the Autobot leader fails to show.

'''Chapter 6: Breaking and Entering'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
As part of yet another diversion, Starscream tells Lockdown to go attack communication arrays in the NEST base. Lockdown wonders aloud if it's part of their plan to bring Shockwave back online, and Starscream tells him to mind his own business. Lockdown shrugs and goes and shoots some more Autobots.

'''Chapter 7: Grand Larceny'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Soundwave also infiltrates the base, on a stealth mission to retrieve Mechtech data which is not helped at all by Starscream's constant chattering over the comm. After fighting his way stealthily into the base by shooting lots of Autobots with his rocket launcher, Soundwave retrieves the data he's after and fights his way towards the exit.

'''Chapter 8: Freedom Run'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Seeking to escape the NEST base, Soundwave instructs Crowbar to run interference. To Crowbar's delight, this means he gets to beat the snot out of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] while Soundwave gets away.

'''Chapter 9: Siege Engines'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Some time later, in Siberia, Crowbar tells one of his fellow Decepticons that he doesn't think the Autobots will find them way out there, but to be vigilant in case they do. As the Autobots shortly do turn up, and Crowbar doesn't want to bug Megatron, he runs around shooting them all. He faces Mirage once again at the end of the level.

'''Chapter 10: Lair of the Dragon'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Megatron contacts Soundwave with new orders. The Autobots have set up sensor-jamming radar emplacements which are blocking the ability of Megatron and his men from seeing their immediate surroundings. Soundwave sets out and deactivates the radar emplacements while shooting more Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Deep Freeze'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
As the Autobots overrun the Decepticon base, Megatron runs to find Shockwave. Starscream contacts him to see if he's all right or if Starscream can take over yet. Starscream also expresses concern that Shockwave might turn against them, but Megatron says he has no choice but to activate the assassin. With Starscream's concerns duly dismissed, Megatron rampages through the base, destroying Autobot invaders.

'''Chapter 12: Desolate Decisions'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
It's not long before he gets a new signal, this time from [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] who has hacked into the Decepticon frequency. Ironhide announces he's going to stop Megatron and proceeds to lead Megatron on a merry chase around the Autobot-infested base until Megatron can defeat him. The Autobots gather outside and Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] ([[Dave Wittenberg]])

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*[[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Crowbar]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] ([[Joey Camen]])

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'''Autobot'''
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] ([[Jamie Alcroft]])
'''Decepticon'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
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==Quotes==
"MIRAGE!"<br />
"Aah! What is it?"
:—'''Ratchet''' creeps up on '''Mirage'''.

"You'd better stay quiet! If you don't find the Mechtech data in that base, Megatron will be sorely displeased."<br />
"Agreed. Your radio silence is appreciated."<br />
"Oh, I, Ah, yes, of course, radio silence would be best, I... ahem. Starscream out."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Soundwave'''

"If you fail to survive this, Megatron, I will dedicate my reign as leader to honoring your name!"<br />
"When I survive this, Starscream, you and I will discuss your treacherous display of ambition."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Megatron'''

"Shouldn't get so worked up, Starscream. You'll blow a gasket." <br />
"WORKED, UP?!! I speak for Lord Megatron, you pile of junk! You will obey me!"
:- '''Crowbar''' and '''Starscream'''.

"Lockdown,is the data damaged? Are you functional?" <br />
"I'm here, Starscream, the data's fine." <br/>
"Then why have you stopped moving?!" <br />
"Just basking in the moment." <br />
"You IDIOT! That data's worth more then you are. Send it immediately!"
:- '''Starscream''' and '''Lockdown'''.

"Keeping us busy while they do their dirty work behind our backs, huh?" <br />
"Be careful. Other Autobots have sighted Lockdown in the area...he never listens."
:- '''Ratchet''' discussing Lockdown with '''Mirage'''.

==Multi-player==
Multi-player includes five gameplay modes:
*'''1-on-1:''' deathmatch in an arena
*'''Master of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. When the time expires, highest score wins.
*'''Marathon:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. Player that survives longest wins.
*'''Free-for-All:''' deathmatch versus more than one opponent.
*'''Team Deathmatch:''' two-on-two combat. Autobots Vs Decepticons.

There are only three multiplayer maps: Stadium, Siberia, and Corridor.

==Reception==
[[File:DOTMDS Soundwave carries truck.jpg|thumb|300px|Soundwave looks for a reviewer to throw his truck at.]]
The DS version garnered a plethora of reviews ranging from mediocre to negative. ''Nintendo Power'' magazine rated it at 30%, calling it a step down from previous games.<ref>[http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/transformers-dark-of-the-moon---autobots/critic-reviews Metacritic reviews]</ref> IGN misses ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', using words like "plain", "uneventful" and "bland", and giving it a rating of 5 out of 10.<ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/06/18/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots-review IGN Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo World Report agreed, giving it 3.5 out of 10 but regarded the voice acting as the best part of the game.<ref>[http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/27110 Nintendo World Report Dark of the Moon review]</ref> One of the higher ratings was 5.5 out of 10, awarded by ZTGD who criticized the graphics and game play choices and were overall disappointed in the game.<ref>[http://www.ztgd.com/reviews/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots/ ZTGD Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo Okie particularly criticized the texturing, enemy AI and repetitive game play, noting that "You shoot a lot of robots in this game and after about 20 minutes it gets boring" and "''Dark Of The Moon'' falls far short of being a compelling video game."<ref>[http://nintendo-okie.com/2011/07/05/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-%E2%80%93-autobotsdecepticons-review-ds/ Nintendo Okie review]</ref>

==Notes==
*Certain editions of the game came with a redecoed ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Bumblebee or Lockdown.
*Megatron sports his ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' body rather than his ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]'' form. Though he still turns into a tank, he can't shoot his main cannon until he switches to his Mechtech winged-tank mode.
*The words "Checkpoint reached" appear to be code for "You are about to be attacked by the enemy".
*Crowbar does not transform into the Chevrolet SUV form of the film, but rather his Cyberverse alternate mode: a Carbon Motors E7 Police Car.
*In the credits, Sideswipe is mentioned to have been voiced by Fred Tatasciore. However, the Autobot does not appear throughout the whole game and has no character model, and absolutely no mention whatsoever, so this must be a mistake.
*There is no Warpath, Laserbeak, or Driller mentioned in this game, or any sign of the other Dreads. The Decepticons enemies in the '''Autobots''' version do resemble the Dreads.
*Although characters like Shockwave, Starscream and Ratchet are deemed unplayable, rumours say by downloading the emulator version of both games, you can play as these characters.
*If you pre-ordered the game/both games at Toys'R'Us, the game skins for Lockdown and Bumblebee are different.
*A glitch can allow you to play as a Decepticon in the Autobot campaign or vise-versa. Go onto a multiplayer game as host (on your own, this doesn't need anyone else), choose game type, place, and character, and wait until it says "Communication Error". When you press OK and go to campaign, you can play as anyone.

==References==
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Maximal

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:''The Maximals are a faction from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Maximal symbol.png|right|thumb|Woof woof!]]
Arising from the ashes of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], the '''Maximals''' are the descendants (at least in part) of the [[Autobot]]s, controlling [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] under the [[Pax Cybertronia]].

When Maximals take on a [[beast mode]], they tend to be mammals, birds or fish, although this is not a hard-and-fast rule.

==History==
The exact origin of the Maximals has never been fully explained, nor has the time of their emergence as a faction. [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''The War Within'' depicts a Maximal symbol in Cybertron's prehistory, and [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' references Maximal and Predacon conflict before the Pax Cybertronia (thus before the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]). The ''Sourcebook'' also seems to place its versions of ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' in this pre-Pax Cybertronia era. Additionally it indicates that Predacons (specifically BB) were being "re-educated" in Maximal prisons during the Great War.

At some point, possibly after the [[Pax Cybertronia]] had restored peace to Cybertron, the [[Maximal Upgrade]] program was introduced. The program emphasized fuel efficiency through downsizing. Many of the surviving Autobots eventually upgraded via bio-tech overhaul and cloistered themselves away, but some few stayed active in Cybertronian society to guide the emerging Maximal faction into the future. The [[Maximal Elder]]s locked away much information about the Great War (and especially the location of [[Earth]]) from the young population, fearing it would re-ignite old grudges or inspire [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insurgents to rewrite history using [[transwarp]] technology.

The theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], which set in motion the "Beast Wars," occurred approximately 300 years after the end of the Great War.

'''Note:''' ''Specific dating for this has been suggested in ancillary material, but in the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon itself this date is fairly indistinct, as 1) there's no way to know when exactly the Great War ended, and 2) it's not clear if those are Cybertronian or Earth years.''

==Physiology==
The Maximals retained many similarities to their Autobot ancestors, and many of the Autobots who underwent the [[Great Upgrade]] basically took on smaller, newer versions of their old bodies. The downsized Maximal body was apparently intended mainly for better fuel efficiency and greater durability. There has been some hinting that this was an offshoot of [[Micromaster]] technology, which had a similar goal.<ref name="Departure">[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] states that the [[Maximal Upgrade Program]] will include a Bio-Tech overhaul , the magnification of latent abilities and additional fuel savings making upgraded mechs at least ten times more efficient on page 6 of [[Departure]]. The language is intentionally evocative of [[Pretender]] and [[Micromaster]] technology.</ref> As was the case with the Autobots before them, Maximal [[robot mode]]s frequently lack a robot-form flight option, unless a flight mechanism is specifically included or unless the Maximal has an airborne [[alternate mode]].

The greatest and most common innovation of the Maximal era is the development of pseudo-organic Beast Forms, which allow Maximal [[alternate mode]]s to blend in seamlessly with the organic lifeforms found elsewhere in the universe. This technology, an offshoot of earlier [[Pretender]] tech,<ref name="Departure"/> sheathes the Maximal's alternate form in an artificial organic "skin" and integrates the beast modes instincts into the Maximal's form. While still primarily using [[Energon]] for fuel, such Maximals have been shown to be able to eat food like organic creatures, though it is unknown if they require such food to survive or merely as an alternate energy source. The beast mode instincts are integrated to such a degree that they have been able to dominate — if not override — [[Circuits|logic circuits]] on occasion. When Maximals take beast modes, they tend to favor mammals, birds, and fish, though this is not a hard-and-fast rule.

At the time of the theft of the Golden Disk, the technology to adopt such forms was reliant on external mechanisms situated in [[stasis pod]]s and [[CR chamber]]s. They were mainly used for explorers and military personnel, while the general Maximal population retained classic mechanical body forms. Some time after the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] and [[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]] left the planet, an upgrade was instituted that incorporated [[DNA scanner]]s and the ability to adopt beast forms directly into the mechanical-style bodies of the general populace. This move suggests a likely intent to increase exploration or colonization programs in the near future. In all likelihood the subsequent planetary conquest by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] derailed these plans.

===Variations===
*[[Transmetal]]s - Beast-style Maximals hit by a Quantum surge have been shown to mutate in such a way that their physiology "reverses", so their "beast" forms take on mechanical properties while their "robot" forms become more organic. Often tertiary vehicular modes manifest. Such robots are undetectable to [[Vok]] technology.

*[[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] - Beast-style Maximals affected by the Vok's mysterious [[Transmetal driver]] became asymmetrical and monstrous in both forms, each of which incorporates mechanical and organic systems seemingly at random. These types of Maximals tend to possess odd extra "powers" such as healing or telekinesis.

*[[Technorganic]]s - When reformatted by the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], beast form Maximals become an entirely new type of being, merging true organic life and Cybertronian technology in every cell of their being.

==Organization==
[[File:Bmmaximal.png|left|thumb|Beast Machines era insignia. Whether this was also the pre-Beast Wars Maximal symbol (similar to the Predacons) is unknown.]]
The [[Maximal Imperium]] was the state that the Maximals formed. The term "imperium" would imply an empire, though the Maximals have never displayed any militaristic-expansionist inclinations, something more in line with the Predacons. However, it might be speculated that their exploration programs, referenced in ''Beast Wars'' and ''Beast Machines'', were a precursor to an expansion-minded colonization program.

The Maximal Imperium appeared to invest both legislative and executive power in a [[wikipedia:Bicameral|bicameral]] legislature, the Maximal Elders and the [[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. It is unknown what the relationship and division of powers were between the two legislatures, although it appears the Elders were the more senior legislature. Like their Autobot ancestors, the Maximals had a strong belief in [[democracy]], even going so far as to elect their military leaders when unable to communicate with the high command. This could cause problems when there was an even number of voters. Some evidence suggests that the Maximal Elders were more repressive and secretive than strictly necessary. Another powerful political body is the cross-factional [[Bi-Partate Committee for State Affairs]], whose appointed members include both Maximals and Predacons.

The Maximals are by nature peaceful, but the realities of the universe still compel them to have armed forces. An elite force of security enforcers, the [[Maximal Command Security Force]], was also established to help keep the peace. Another special group were the [[Imperial Peace Marshal]]s. Usually the highest rank is [[Supreme Commander]], awarded to Maximals of [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]] status, who are given an [[Energon Matrix]] linked to the [[Vector Sigma]] supercomputer. The Supreme Commanders answer to the Maximal Elders, and there is some evidence to indicate that the Maximal Elders included former Supreme Commanders.
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==Maximal society==
Not much is known about the Maximal-led, post-Great War Cybertron. There does appear to have been commerce ([[holo-chip]]s), entertainment ([[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]]), and industry.

The planetary capital is located in [[Cybertropolis]], a city built over the ruins of old [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. The planet is shared with the remainder of the defeated Predacon faction. Many Predacons feel they are living as second-class citizens under a repressive rule. There is some evidence to suggest that Predacon presence on the planet was minimal but this is not confirmed. Regardless, a relative "Cold War" style peace prevailed, with much distrust simmering on either side. Maximals enforced the peace by means of groups such as the [[Imperial Peace Marshal]]s and the [[Maximal Command Security Force]].

We know that the Maximals focused heavily on exploration. Exploration vessels, filled with [[stasis pod]]s containing newborn [[protoform]]s, would search out new planets and seed them with those protoforms, which would assume modes based on the native lifeforms and collect data. Post-war Cybertron experienced a visible boom in scientific and technological curiosity. Some of this curiosity, however, resulted in monsters such as the seemingly immortal and murderous [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]].

==Notes==
*The "Maximal" faction name came from a desperate attempt by [[Vincent D'Alleva]] to figure out a new protagonist name that would represent the animal Transformers, clear trademark checks and please the executive group. He combined the name of a scrapped ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' line, ''Manimals'', with the name of the car driven by the team marketing coordinator, a Nissan ''Maxima''. Manimals + Maxima = ''Maximals''. Ta-da!<ref>[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html Botcon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p1-2</ref>

*The Maximal's primary color is arguably yellow, as opposed to the usual heroic red employed by most of the "good guy" factions in Transformers lore

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Cybertron''' (サイバトロン ''Saibatoron'')
*''Latvian:'' '''Maksimāļi'''
*''Polish:'' '''Maksimale''' ("Maximals")

==References==
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[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Beast Machines]]
[[Category:Beast Wars II]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo]]
[[Category:Factions]]
[[Category:Generation 1 factions]]
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[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:TransTech]]

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==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks

==Question==
Is this the right place to put questions, if not where. Also how do I insert captions? {{unsigned|Pzzone}}
:That depends on what type of question (this page is for discussing the wiki as a whole). Also please note that new sections on talk pages should go at the bottom (if you click on the "+" tab next to the "edit" tab it will do that automatically, and you should sign talk page posts by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your comment (the second button from the right on the toolbar immediately over the edit window will insert that for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:57, 11 February 2015 (EST)

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Like this? Could you answer my previous question? Also how do I link a page without directly writing it's name. Eg. Linking God to Primus (I'm not actually going to)

Oh never mind void this, I saw your message. Thx and I apologize for pestering you.

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

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==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks

==Question==
Is this the right place to put questions, if not where. Also how do I insert captions? {{unsigned|Pzzone}}
:That depends on what type of question (this page is for discussing the wiki as a whole). Also please note that new sections on talk pages should go at the bottom (if you click on the "+" tab next to the "edit" tab it will do that automatically, and you should sign talk page posts by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your comment (the second button from the right on the toolbar immediately over the edit window will insert that for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:57, 11 February 2015 (EST)

== /* Question */ ==

Like this? Could you answer my previous question? Also how do I link a page without directly writing it's name. Eg. Linking God to Primus (I'm not actually going to)

Oh never mind void this, I saw your message. Thx and sorry for pestering you.

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

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==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks

==Question==
Is this the right place to put questions, if not where. Also how do I insert captions? {{unsigned|Pzzone}}
:That depends on what type of question (this page is for discussing the wiki as a whole). Also please note that new sections on talk pages should go at the bottom (if you click on the "+" tab next to the "edit" tab it will do that automatically, and you should sign talk page posts by adding <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to the end of your comment (the second button from the right on the toolbar immediately over the edit window will insert that for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:57, 11 February 2015 (EST)

== /* Question */ ==

Like this? Could you answer my previous question? Also how do I link a page without directly writing it's name. Eg. Linking God to Primus (I'm not actually going to)

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2015-02-12T01:17:17Z

Pzzone:

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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:

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==Question==
Is this the right place to put questions, if not where. Also how do I insert captions?=

=Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

Thanks

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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:

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==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.
:[[Help:Contents]] has links to our policy pages and help documents. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:49, 10 February 2015 (EST)

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Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons

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'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots''' and '''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Decepticons''' were released on [[June 14]], [[2011]] for the [[Nintendo DS]]. Both games were developed by [[Behaviour Interactive]] who had previously released ''[[Transformers Animated: The Game]]'', and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]. Like the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|console version]], they are prequels to the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' film. They are third-person, over-the-shoulder shooters, and feature both a campaign and multi-player mode.

==Gameplay==
[[File:DOTMDS Optimus shoots dudes.jpg|thumb|300px]]
For each mission, there is set character, although once the game has been completed you can go back and replay missions with any playable character. The characters have a primary fire, which is more or less a machine gun with unlimited ammo, and secondary fire in the form of rockets, for which have a limited amount of ammo. More rockets can be obtained by defeating certain foes, which are so numerous you will practically never run out anyway. The character's health is divided between energy, which can be replenished by picking up [[energon cube]]s dropped by defeated opponents, and "shield", which slowly regenerates over time. While in vehicle mode, Transformers can go into [[Stealth Force]] mode, making available machine guns, but not the secondary weapon.

Additional abilities include hacking—pressing the radar icon and aiming at a satellite dish or turret reveals a randomly flashing faction [[insignia]]. Pressing the insignia when it matches your faction hacks the target. Hacked turrets will fire on your enemies, which makes them semi-useful when the game doesn't immediate block you off from them afterwards with a force field. Pressing the A button near certain objects will allow you to pick them up (if the game's feeling charitable) and throw them at enemies. Characters also have special abilities allowing them to reach hidden areas—for instance Mirage can run along walls, while Soundwave can run on overhead wires.

Upgrades are faction-wide and require collecting "upgrade slots" which appear as small spinning objects, and gaining XP. Between levels, a number of upgrades can be bought from the upgrades screen by spending an upgrade slot and 250XP, giving the player more health, shield, or boosting the primary and secondary fire.

==Synopsis==
===Autobot campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Urban Devastation'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]]
[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and Bumblebee meet downtown, where they discuss the recent attacks. Believing them to be the work of the [[Decepticon]]s, Optimus sends Bumblebee to investigate, and the small [[Autobot]] quickly discovers that the city is indeed crawling with Decepticons.

'''Chapter 2: Heavy Industry'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
Optimus contacts Ironhide with more bad news. The Decepticons are attacking on two fronts: [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is trying to bring the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s back online, while [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] is attacking a nearby industrial park. Ironhide goes to the Industrial Park to investigate, and is forced to protect a number of buildings from Decepticon attack, while Starscream shoots down numerous fuel stacks.

'''Chapter 3: The Best Defense...'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Optimus finds Ratchet on the way to the Stadium to check out a disturbance. Optimus opts to go instead, as Ratchet's services are better utilized back at base, but Ratchet warns him before he leaves that they've intercepted a Decepticon transmission about something called [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. Optimus goes to investigate the Stadium and briefly tangles with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]].

'''Chapter 4: Strong Foundations'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]
Mirage finds Ratchet in a worried state as the Decepticons are up to something at a NEST construction site. Promising to investigate, Mirage finds [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] messing up the place, and is forced to chase him down.

'''Chapter 5: Burning Air'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Ratchet and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] contact Optimus to warn him that Decepticons are attacking all over NEST's Pacific island base. Wheeljack additionally warns him that [[Crowbar]] is a dangerous foe. Optimus drives all over the island bashing Decepticons and protecting the buildings, but fails to encounter Crowbar.

'''Chapter 6: Into the Fire'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
After Lockdown gets into the NEST base and starts targeting the satellite dishes in an attempt to shut down Autobot communications, Rachet sends Mirage to scour the base and reactivate the dishes. Lockdown is not seen in this level, however.

'''Chapter 7: Dangerous Experiments'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Mirage reports to Ironhide that he's chasing Lockdown within the base. As Ironhide goes to join the hunt, Optimus Prime contacts everyone with the extremely urgent message not to engage Soundwave. Ironhide tells the Autobot soldier to stay on watch and then proceeds to chase Lockdown around the base and finally catches up with him.

'''Chapter 8: Volcano Overdrive'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
As Bumblebee stands ready, Ratchet tells him that Soundwave and Crowbar are in the area. Bumblebee needs to track them down, however, and this is the important part, he has to let Soundwave escape. It's part of Optimus's plan. Bumblebee sets out and quickly finds and attacks Crowbar, however he suddenly runs into [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]]! Bumblebee fights Starscream all over the island as Crowbar and Soundwave escape.

'''Chapter 9: Hunters and Prey'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
Starscream, as it turns out, has stolen a piece of [[MechTech|Mechtech]], which luckily has a built-in tracking system. The Autobots have traced him to [[Siberia]], and Mirage goes in to stealthily scope the place out by shooting Decepticons.

'''Chapter 10: Bitter Winds'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
At the Decepticon base, Ratchet briefs Ironhide on the situation—there are radar stations built all around it which must be taken out. Also Ratchet's decoded a transmission indicating that Shockwave is a deadly Decepticon assassin! Ironhide moves through the valley, hacking the Decepticon computers to clear a way for the Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Heart of Ice'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
Ironhide, Bumblebee and Ratchet meet up inside the Decepticon base. Ratchet sends Bumblebee to scout ahead, cautioning him that Megatron may be around. Luckily Bumblebee just finds a whole bunch of Decepticons to shoot.

'''Chapter 12: Cold Machinery'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Optimus arrives, and Ironhide tells him that the Decepticons are completely cut off. Megatron and possibly Shockwave are there. Optimus decides he must go in alone, and tells the others to follow him when he gives the signal. A short time after Optimus goes in, the Autobots receive a weak transmission from him to say that Megatron and Shockwave have escaped, so Ironhide goes after them. He manages to track Megatron, fighting furiously with the Decepticon leader, but Megatron manages to get away. Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

===Decepticon campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Demolition'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]
[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] relays news to Soundwave that [[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] has ordered a two-pronged assault. While [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is in charge of one, Starscream is in charge of an attack on a [[NEST]] facility, and he wants Soundwave to provide a diversion. Soundwave is skeptical that these are Megatron's orders, but decides to check up on it later and goes and wreaks havoc in a nearby industrial park as a diversion.

'''Chapter 2: Desperation Play'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Crowbar]]
Starscream finds Crowbar equally back-chatty when he tells Crowbar to create another diversion near the Stadium to keep the Autobots distracted from the NEST facility. Crowbar proceeds to make as much of a distraction as he can downtown, also encountering Ironhide within the staidum.

[[File:DOTMDS Lockdown chases Optimus.jpg|thumb|300px|Come back here, you coward!]]
'''Chapter 3: Shipping Out'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]
Meanwhile, Starscream sends Lockdown into the NEST facility to look for any information the Autobots have gathered on [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] or Operation: Pillar. Lockdown successfully infiltrates the base, though he spends most of his time chasing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] around.

'''Chapter 4: Deconstruction Site'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
The stolen data secure, Lockdown escapes the NEST base and reports back to Starscream. Starscream notes that the Autobots have taken over an abandoned [[Sector Seven|Sector 7]] base in the Pacific, and dispatches Lockdown there. Lockdown immediately encounters [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] and defeats the Autobot soundly.

'''Chapter 5: Hostile Territory'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Crowbar has also arrived at the island, and Starscream warns him that Optimus is somewhere there. Crowbar wanders around knocking down buildings, but the Autobot leader fails to show.

'''Chapter 6: Breaking and Entering'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
As part of yet another diversion, Starscream tells Lockdown to go attack communication arrays in the NEST base. Lockdown wonders aloud if it's part of their plan to bring Shockwave back online, and Starscream tells him to mind his own business. Lockdown shrugs and goes and shoots some more Autobots.

'''Chapter 7: Grand Larceny'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Soundwave also infiltrates the base, on a stealth mission to retrieve Mechtech data which is not helped at all by Starscream's constant chattering over the comm. After fighting his way stealthily into the base by shooting lots of Autobots with his rocket launcher, Soundwave retrieves the data he's after and fights his way towards the exit.

'''Chapter 8: Freedom Run'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Seeking to escape the NEST base, Soundwave instructs Crowbar to run interference. To Crowbar's delight, this means he gets to beat the snot out of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] while Soundwave gets away.

'''Chapter 9: Siege Engines'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Some time later, in Siberia, Crowbar tells one of his fellow Decepticons that he doesn't think the Autobots will find them way out there, but to be vigilant in case they do. As the Autobots shortly do turn up, and Crowbar doesn't want to bug Megatron, he runs around shooting them all. He faces Mirage once again at the end of the level.

'''Chapter 10: Lair of the Dragon'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Megatron contacts Soundwave with new orders. The Autobots have set up sensor-jamming radar emplacements which are blocking the ability of Megatron and his men from seeing their immediate surroundings. Soundwave sets out and deactivates the radar emplacements while shooting more Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Deep Freeze'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
As the Autobots overrun the Decepticon base, Megatron runs to find Shockwave. Starscream contacts him to see if he's all right or if Starscream can take over yet. Starscream also expresses concern that Shockwave might turn against them, but Megatron says he has no choice but to activate the assassin. With Starscream's concerns duly dismissed, Megatron rampages through the base, destroying Autobot invaders.

'''Chapter 12: Desolate Decisions'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
It's not long before he gets a new signal, this time from [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] who has hacked into the Decepticon frequency. Ironhide announces he's going to stop Megatron and proceeds to lead Megatron on a merry chase around the Autobot-infested base until Megatron can defeat him. The Autobots gather outside and Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] ([[Dave Wittenberg]])

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Crowbar]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] ([[Joey Camen]])

|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobot'''
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] ([[Jamie Alcroft]])
'''Decepticon'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
}}

==Quotes==
"MIRAGE!"<br />
"Aah! What is it?"
:—'''Ratchet''' creeps up on '''Mirage'''.

"You'd better stay quiet! If you don't find the Mechtech data in that base, Megatron will be sorely displeased."<br />
"Agreed. Your radio silence is appreciated."<br />
"Oh, I, Ah, yes, of course, radio silence would be best, I... ahem. Starscream out."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Soundwave'''

"If you fail to survive this, Megatron, I will dedicate my reign as leader to honoring your name!"<br />
"When I survive this, Starscream, you and I will discuss your treacherous display of ambition."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Megatron'''

"Shouldn't get so worked up, Starscream. You'll blow a gasket." <br />
"WORKED, UP?!! I speak for Lord Megatron, you pile of junk! You will obey me!"
:- '''Crowbar''' and '''Starscream'''.

"Lockdown,is the data damaged? Are you functional?" <br />
"I'm here, Starscream, the data's fine." <br/>
"Then why have you stopped moving?!" <br />
"Just basking in the moment." <br />
"You IDIOT! That data's worth more then you are. Send it immediately!"
:- '''Starscream''' and '''Lockdown'''.

"Keeping us busy while they do their dirty work behind our backs, huh?" <br />
"Be careful. Other Autobots have sighted Lockdown in the area...he never listens."
:- '''Ratchet''' discussing Lockdown with '''Mirage'''.

==Multi-player==
Multi-player includes five gameplay modes:
*'''1-on-1:''' deathmatch in an arena
*'''Master of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. When the time expires, highest score wins.
*'''Marathon:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. Player that survives longest wins.
*'''Free-for-All:''' deathmatch versus more than one opponent.
*'''Team Deathmatch:''' two-on-two combat. Autobots Vs Decepticons.

There are only three multiplayer maps: Stadium, Siberia, and Corridor.

==Reception==
[[File:DOTMDS Soundwave carries truck.jpg|thumb|300px|Soundwave looks for a reviewer to throw his truck at.]]
The DS version garnered a plethora of reviews ranging from mediocre to negative. ''Nintendo Power'' magazine rated it at 30%, calling it a step down from previous games.<ref>[http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/transformers-dark-of-the-moon---autobots/critic-reviews Metacritic reviews]</ref> IGN misses ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', using words like "plain", "uneventful" and "bland", and giving it a rating of 5 out of 10.<ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/06/18/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots-review IGN Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo World Report agreed, giving it 3.5 out of 10 but regarded the voice acting as the best part of the game.<ref>[http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/27110 Nintendo World Report Dark of the Moon review]</ref> One of the higher ratings was 5.5 out of 10, awarded by ZTGD who criticized the graphics and game play choices and were overall disappointed in the game.<ref>[http://www.ztgd.com/reviews/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots/ ZTGD Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo Okie particularly criticized the texturing, enemy AI and repetitive game play, noting that "You shoot a lot of robots in this game and after about 20 minutes it gets boring" and "''Dark Of The Moon'' falls far short of being a compelling video game."<ref>[http://nintendo-okie.com/2011/07/05/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-%E2%80%93-autobotsdecepticons-review-ds/ Nintendo Okie review]</ref>

==Notes==
*Certain editions of the game came with a redecoed ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Bumblebee or Lockdown.
*Megatron sports his ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' body rather than his ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]'' form. Though he still turns into a tank, he can't shoot his main cannon until he switches to his Mechtech winged-tank mode.
*The words "Checkpoint reached" appear to be code for "You are about to be attacked by the enemy".
*Crowbar does not transform into the Chevrolet SUV form of the film, but rather his Cyberverse alternate mode: a Carbon Motors E7 Police Car.
*In the credits, Sideswipe is mentioned to have been voiced by Fred Tatasciore. However, the Autobot does not appear throughout the whole game and has no character model, and absolutely no mention whatsoever, so this must be a mistake.
*There is no Warpath, Laserbeak, or Driller mentioned in this game, or any sign of the other Dreads. The Decepticons enemies in the '''Autobots''' version do resemble the Dreads.
*Although characters like Shockwave, Starscream and Ratchet are deemed unplayable, rumours say by downloading the emulator version of both games, you can play as these characters.
*If you pre-ordered the game/both games at Toys'R'Us, the game skins for Lockdown and Bumblebee are different.
*A glitch can allow you to play as a Decepticon in the Autobot campaign or vise-versa. Go onto a multiplayer game as host (on your own, this doesn't need anyone else), choose game type, place, and character, and wait until it says "Communication Error". When you press OK and go to campaign, you can play as anyone.

==References==
<references />

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Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons

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'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots''' and '''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Decepticons''' were released on [[June 14]], [[2011]] for the [[Nintendo DS]]. Both games were developed by [[Behaviour Interactive]] who had previously released ''[[Transformers Animated: The Game]]'', and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]. Like the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|console version]], they are prequels to the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' film. They are third-person, over-the-shoulder shooters, and feature both a campaign and multi-player mode.

==Gameplay==
[[File:DOTMDS Optimus shoots dudes.jpg|thumb|300px]] Pew pew pew
For each mission, there is set character, although once the game has been completed you can go back and replay missions with any playable character. The characters have a primary fire, which is more or less a machine gun with unlimited ammo, and secondary fire in the form of rockets, for which have a limited amount of ammo. More rockets can be obtained by defeating certain foes, which are so numerous you will practically never run out anyway. The character's health is divided between energy, which can be replenished by picking up [[energon cube]]s dropped by defeated opponents, and "shield", which slowly regenerates over time. While in vehicle mode, Transformers can go into [[Stealth Force]] mode, making available machine guns, but not the secondary weapon.

Additional abilities include hacking—pressing the radar icon and aiming at a satellite dish or turret reveals a randomly flashing faction [[insignia]]. Pressing the insignia when it matches your faction hacks the target. Hacked turrets will fire on your enemies, which makes them semi-useful when the game doesn't immediate block you off from them afterwards with a force field. Pressing the A button near certain objects will allow you to pick them up (if the game's feeling charitable) and throw them at enemies. Characters also have special abilities allowing them to reach hidden areas—for instance Mirage can run along walls, while Soundwave can run on overhead wires.

Upgrades are faction-wide and require collecting "upgrade slots" which appear as small spinning objects, and gaining XP. Between levels, a number of upgrades can be bought from the upgrades screen by spending an upgrade slot and 250XP, giving the player more health, shield, or boosting the primary and secondary fire.

==Synopsis==
===Autobot campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Urban Devastation'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]]
[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and Bumblebee meet downtown, where they discuss the recent attacks. Believing them to be the work of the [[Decepticon]]s, Optimus sends Bumblebee to investigate, and the small [[Autobot]] quickly discovers that the city is indeed crawling with Decepticons.

'''Chapter 2: Heavy Industry'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
Optimus contacts Ironhide with more bad news. The Decepticons are attacking on two fronts: [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is trying to bring the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s back online, while [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] is attacking a nearby industrial park. Ironhide goes to the Industrial Park to investigate, and is forced to protect a number of buildings from Decepticon attack, while Starscream shoots down numerous fuel stacks.

'''Chapter 3: The Best Defense...'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Optimus finds Ratchet on the way to the Stadium to check out a disturbance. Optimus opts to go instead, as Ratchet's services are better utilized back at base, but Ratchet warns him before he leaves that they've intercepted a Decepticon transmission about something called [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. Optimus goes to investigate the Stadium and briefly tangles with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]].

'''Chapter 4: Strong Foundations'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]
Mirage finds Ratchet in a worried state as the Decepticons are up to something at a NEST construction site. Promising to investigate, Mirage finds [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] messing up the place, and is forced to chase him down.

'''Chapter 5: Burning Air'''
*''Playable character:'' Optimus Prime
Ratchet and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] contact Optimus to warn him that Decepticons are attacking all over NEST's Pacific island base. Wheeljack additionally warns him that [[Crowbar]] is a dangerous foe. Optimus drives all over the island bashing Decepticons and protecting the buildings, but fails to encounter Crowbar.

'''Chapter 6: Into the Fire'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
After Lockdown gets into the NEST base and starts targeting the satellite dishes in an attempt to shut down Autobot communications, Rachet sends Mirage to scour the base and reactivate the dishes. Lockdown is not seen in this level, however.

'''Chapter 7: Dangerous Experiments'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Mirage reports to Ironhide that he's chasing Lockdown within the base. As Ironhide goes to join the hunt, Optimus Prime contacts everyone with the extremely urgent message not to engage Soundwave. Ironhide tells the Autobot soldier to stay on watch and then proceeds to chase Lockdown around the base and finally catches up with him.

'''Chapter 8: Volcano Overdrive'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
As Bumblebee stands ready, Ratchet tells him that Soundwave and Crowbar are in the area. Bumblebee needs to track them down, however, and this is the important part, he has to let Soundwave escape. It's part of Optimus's plan. Bumblebee sets out and quickly finds and attacks Crowbar, however he suddenly runs into [[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]]! Bumblebee fights Starscream all over the island as Crowbar and Soundwave escape.

'''Chapter 9: Hunters and Prey'''
*''Playable character:'' Mirage
Starscream, as it turns out, has stolen a piece of [[MechTech|Mechtech]], which luckily has a built-in tracking system. The Autobots have traced him to [[Siberia]], and Mirage goes in to stealthily scope the place out by shooting Decepticons.

'''Chapter 10: Bitter Winds'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
At the Decepticon base, Ratchet briefs Ironhide on the situation—there are radar stations built all around it which must be taken out. Also Ratchet's decoded a transmission indicating that Shockwave is a deadly Decepticon assassin! Ironhide moves through the valley, hacking the Decepticon computers to clear a way for the Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Heart of Ice'''
*''Playable character:'' Bumblebee
Ironhide, Bumblebee and Ratchet meet up inside the Decepticon base. Ratchet sends Bumblebee to scout ahead, cautioning him that Megatron may be around. Luckily Bumblebee just finds a whole bunch of Decepticons to shoot.

'''Chapter 12: Cold Machinery'''
*''Playable character:'' Ironhide
Optimus arrives, and Ironhide tells him that the Decepticons are completely cut off. Megatron and possibly Shockwave are there. Optimus decides he must go in alone, and tells the others to follow him when he gives the signal. A short time after Optimus goes in, the Autobots receive a weak transmission from him to say that Megatron and Shockwave have escaped, so Ironhide goes after them. He manages to track Megatron, fighting furiously with the Decepticon leader, but Megatron manages to get away. Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

===Decepticon campaign===
'''Chapter 1: Demolition'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]
[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] relays news to Soundwave that [[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] has ordered a two-pronged assault. While [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is in charge of one, Starscream is in charge of an attack on a [[NEST]] facility, and he wants Soundwave to provide a diversion. Soundwave is skeptical that these are Megatron's orders, but decides to check up on it later and goes and wreaks havoc in a nearby industrial park as a diversion.

'''Chapter 2: Desperation Play'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Crowbar]]
Starscream finds Crowbar equally back-chatty when he tells Crowbar to create another diversion near the Stadium to keep the Autobots distracted from the NEST facility. Crowbar proceeds to make as much of a distraction as he can downtown, also encountering Ironhide within the staidum.

[[File:DOTMDS Lockdown chases Optimus.jpg|thumb|300px|Come back here, you coward!]]
'''Chapter 3: Shipping Out'''
*''Playable character:'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]
Meanwhile, Starscream sends Lockdown into the NEST facility to look for any information the Autobots have gathered on [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] or Operation: Pillar. Lockdown successfully infiltrates the base, though he spends most of his time chasing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] around.

'''Chapter 4: Deconstruction Site'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
The stolen data secure, Lockdown escapes the NEST base and reports back to Starscream. Starscream notes that the Autobots have taken over an abandoned [[Sector Seven|Sector 7]] base in the Pacific, and dispatches Lockdown there. Lockdown immediately encounters [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] and defeats the Autobot soundly.

'''Chapter 5: Hostile Territory'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Crowbar has also arrived at the island, and Starscream warns him that Optimus is somewhere there. Crowbar wanders around knocking down buildings, but the Autobot leader fails to show.

'''Chapter 6: Breaking and Entering'''
*''Playable character:'' Lockdown
As part of yet another diversion, Starscream tells Lockdown to go attack communication arrays in the NEST base. Lockdown wonders aloud if it's part of their plan to bring Shockwave back online, and Starscream tells him to mind his own business. Lockdown shrugs and goes and shoots some more Autobots.

'''Chapter 7: Grand Larceny'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Soundwave also infiltrates the base, on a stealth mission to retrieve Mechtech data which is not helped at all by Starscream's constant chattering over the comm. After fighting his way stealthily into the base by shooting lots of Autobots with his rocket launcher, Soundwave retrieves the data he's after and fights his way towards the exit.

'''Chapter 8: Freedom Run'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Seeking to escape the NEST base, Soundwave instructs Crowbar to run interference. To Crowbar's delight, this means he gets to beat the snot out of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] while Soundwave gets away.

'''Chapter 9: Siege Engines'''
*''Playable character:'' Crowbar
Some time later, in Siberia, Crowbar tells one of his fellow Decepticons that he doesn't think the Autobots will find them way out there, but to be vigilant in case they do. As the Autobots shortly do turn up, and Crowbar doesn't want to bug Megatron, he runs around shooting them all. He faces Mirage once again at the end of the level.

'''Chapter 10: Lair of the Dragon'''
*''Playable character:'' Soundwave
Megatron contacts Soundwave with new orders. The Autobots have set up sensor-jamming radar emplacements which are blocking the ability of Megatron and his men from seeing their immediate surroundings. Soundwave sets out and deactivates the radar emplacements while shooting more Autobots.

'''Chapter 11: Deep Freeze'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
As the Autobots overrun the Decepticon base, Megatron runs to find Shockwave. Starscream contacts him to see if he's all right or if Starscream can take over yet. Starscream also expresses concern that Shockwave might turn against them, but Megatron says he has no choice but to activate the assassin. With Starscream's concerns duly dismissed, Megatron rampages through the base, destroying Autobot invaders.

'''Chapter 12: Desolate Decisions'''
*''Playable character:'' Megatron
It's not long before he gets a new signal, this time from [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] who has hacked into the Decepticon frequency. Ironhide announces he's going to stop Megatron and proceeds to lead Megatron on a merry chase around the Autobot-infested base until Megatron can defeat him. The Autobots gather outside and Optimus announces that they won this battle at least, and will be ready for the next one. Elsewhere Megatron calls a strategic retreat, as he's succeeded in getting what he came for—Shockwave!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] ([[Dave Wittenberg]])

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)/games|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Crowbar]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] ([[Joey Camen]])

|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobot'''
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] ([[Jamie Alcroft]])
'''Decepticon'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)/games|Starscream]] (Steve Blum)
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
}}

==Quotes==
"MIRAGE!"<br />
"Aah! What is it?"
:—'''Ratchet''' creeps up on '''Mirage'''.

"You'd better stay quiet! If you don't find the Mechtech data in that base, Megatron will be sorely displeased."<br />
"Agreed. Your radio silence is appreciated."<br />
"Oh, I, Ah, yes, of course, radio silence would be best, I... ahem. Starscream out."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Soundwave'''

"If you fail to survive this, Megatron, I will dedicate my reign as leader to honoring your name!"<br />
"When I survive this, Starscream, you and I will discuss your treacherous display of ambition."
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Megatron'''

"Shouldn't get so worked up, Starscream. You'll blow a gasket." <br />
"WORKED, UP?!! I speak for Lord Megatron, you pile of junk! You will obey me!"
:- '''Crowbar''' and '''Starscream'''.

"Lockdown,is the data damaged? Are you functional?" <br />
"I'm here, Starscream, the data's fine." <br/>
"Then why have you stopped moving?!" <br />
"Just basking in the moment." <br />
"You IDIOT! That data's worth more then you are. Send it immediately!"
:- '''Starscream''' and '''Lockdown'''.

"Keeping us busy while they do their dirty work behind our backs, huh?" <br />
"Be careful. Other Autobots have sighted Lockdown in the area...he never listens."
:- '''Ratchet''' discussing Lockdown with '''Mirage'''.

==Multi-player==
Multi-player includes five gameplay modes:
*'''1-on-1:''' deathmatch in an arena
*'''Master of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. When the time expires, highest score wins.
*'''Marathon:''' Two players versus infinite waves of enemies. Player that survives longest wins.
*'''Free-for-All:''' deathmatch versus more than one opponent.
*'''Team Deathmatch:''' two-on-two combat. Autobots Vs Decepticons.

There are only three multiplayer maps: Stadium, Siberia, and Corridor.

==Reception==
[[File:DOTMDS Soundwave carries truck.jpg|thumb|300px|Soundwave looks for a reviewer to throw his truck at.]]
The DS version garnered a plethora of reviews ranging from mediocre to negative. ''Nintendo Power'' magazine rated it at 30%, calling it a step down from previous games.<ref>[http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/transformers-dark-of-the-moon---autobots/critic-reviews Metacritic reviews]</ref> IGN misses ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', using words like "plain", "uneventful" and "bland", and giving it a rating of 5 out of 10.<ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/06/18/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots-review IGN Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo World Report agreed, giving it 3.5 out of 10 but regarded the voice acting as the best part of the game.<ref>[http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/27110 Nintendo World Report Dark of the Moon review]</ref> One of the higher ratings was 5.5 out of 10, awarded by ZTGD who criticized the graphics and game play choices and were overall disappointed in the game.<ref>[http://www.ztgd.com/reviews/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-autobots/ ZTGD Dark of the Moon review]</ref> Nintendo Okie particularly criticized the texturing, enemy AI and repetitive game play, noting that "You shoot a lot of robots in this game and after about 20 minutes it gets boring" and "''Dark Of The Moon'' falls far short of being a compelling video game."<ref>[http://nintendo-okie.com/2011/07/05/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-%E2%80%93-autobotsdecepticons-review-ds/ Nintendo Okie review]</ref>

==Notes==
*Certain editions of the game came with a redecoed ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Bumblebee or Lockdown.
*Megatron sports his ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' body rather than his ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]'' form. Though he still turns into a tank, he can't shoot his main cannon until he switches to his Mechtech winged-tank mode.
*The words "Checkpoint reached" appear to be code for "You are about to be attacked by the enemy".
*Crowbar does not transform into the Chevrolet SUV form of the film, but rather his Cyberverse alternate mode: a Carbon Motors E7 Police Car.
*In the credits, Sideswipe is mentioned to have been voiced by Fred Tatasciore. However, the Autobot does not appear throughout the whole game and has no character model, and absolutely no mention whatsoever, so this must be a mistake.
*There is no Warpath, Laserbeak, or Driller mentioned in this game, or any sign of the other Dreads. The Decepticons enemies in the '''Autobots''' version do resemble the Dreads.
*Although characters like Shockwave, Starscream and Ratchet are deemed unplayable, rumours say by downloading the emulator version of both games, you can play as these characters.
*If you pre-ordered the game/both games at Toys'R'Us, the game skins for Lockdown and Bumblebee are different.
*A glitch can allow you to play as a Decepticon in the Autobot campaign or vise-versa. Go onto a multiplayer game as host (on your own, this doesn't need anyone else), choose game type, place, and character, and wait until it says "Communication Error". When you press OK and go to campaign, you can play as anyone.

==References==
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Lance

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A '''lance''' is a type of hand-held weaponry. Long and pointed, it is used to pierce one's opponent. It can either be handheld, to be thrust up-close into the opposing combatant, or a ranged weapon, thrown to achieve similar results over long distances. Several Transformers have been equipped with both types of lances over the years.

When thrown, lances are sometimes known as '''javelins'''. Other variations on the weapon include '''spears''' and '''pikes'''.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:Raiderrumblejoust.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4]]
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] once joined a jousting tournament, with Rumble wielding a shield and lance, and Ramjet serving as his trusty steed. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}
* When the [[Quintesson]]s hooked [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] up to a device to turn his dreams into reality, one of the illusionary monsters conjured up was a large pink dragon which dwelt in a castle. [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] teamed up to slay it using a magic lance. {{storylink|Nightmare Planet}}

====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
* The Beastformer [[Elephan]] wields a lance with several additional spikes.

====''Wings Universe''====
{{Wingsnote}}
* Similar to his Animated counterpart, [[Sentinel Major]] wields a hard-light lance.
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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* ''The [[sonic lance]] was a Decepticon invention used to disrupt [[cerebro circuitry]].''
* ''One of the [[Louisiana bounty hunters]] encountered by [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] was garbed similarly to a medieval knight, and wielded a lance accordingly.'' {{storylink|Assassins}}
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===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
* One of the many configurations [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s weapon can take is the [[Striker Lance]]. He still wields this weapon when he undegoes his transformation into Galvatron.
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
* [[Elita One]] has been known to angrily throw a spear into monitor displays, to the amusement of Quintesson onlookers. {{Storylink|The Route of All Evil}}
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===Energon===
* [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]]'s Energon weaponry can be configured into the shape of a spear.
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
* [[J'organ lance]] are artifacts. [[Krakon]] had some in his possession.
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===Robotmasters===
* [[R-Blade]]'s arsenal includes "Sonic Lance" Missiles. It is unknown if the "lance" part of their name is purely figurative, or if R-Blade is known to throw them manually.
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===''TransTech''===
* [[Escargon]]'s Love-Love Lancer has some interesting properties.

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===Cybertron===
* The pole segment of [[Signal Lancer]]'s traffic light altmode becomes a lance for him to wield in robot mode.

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===Live-action film series continuity===
====Transformers (2007)====
* [[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] wields an enormous spear.
* [[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]], in one of his earlier bodies, possessed a spear of similar make to Skyblast's.
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], uses javelin to kill an Autobot in Optimus Prime's hologram

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===''Animated''===
[[File:SonicJavelin.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb]]
* To go along with the defensive capabilities of his [[Skyboom (Animated)|Skyboom]] shield, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] wields an energy lance for offensive purposes.
* [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] possesses [[Sonic Javelin]]s, a type of retractable throwing weapon.

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===Shattered Glass===
* [[Star Saber (SG)|Star Saber]] also wields a spear.

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===Aligned Continuity===
* The [[static lance]] is an energized weapon used to stun opponents.
* The [[Supernova Lance]] is one of many [[Arms Micron|Combo Weapons]] in the Autobots' arsenal.
* In order to hunt [[Predacon (Prime)|beasts]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] wields the [[Falcon Spear]].
* [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]]'s [[Tartarex Warp Sword]] is also known as the "Sharktooth Spear."
* [[Jayz]] transforms into a lance to be wielded by a larger Transformer.

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==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
[[File:RID Megatron toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Megatron''' (Ultra, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-001'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers

: The ''only'' new-mold bad guy from the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'' line, Megatron (or "Gigatron", as he was called in Japan) has six different configurations: robot, jet, bat, two-headed dragon, giant hand (''awesome''), and roadster. His hand mode has a spring-loaded "gripping" gimmick (''oh hell yeah''). He comes with a pair of pressure-launch missile launchers that can double as swords, or be combined to form a single naginata-like weapon.

: The Hasbro version of this mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Deathsaurus (Victory)#Timelines|Deathsaurus]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2001/Predacon/Megatron/megatron.htm More information on Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:RIDGalvatron.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Ultra, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-013'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers

: [[Redeco]]ed into a color scheme more traditionally associated with "dead" in Japan, "Devil Gigatron" featured four additional transformations and retained the weaponry from his first deco.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2001/Decepticon/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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===Energon===
[[File:Energon Skyblast toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Skyblast''' (Omnicon, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SC-07'''
**''Accessories:'' Two-part energon cannon, 2 energon jet boosters. "Autobot" energon chip

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' Energon Class toys, Skyblast transforms into a Cybertronic jet. He comes with multiple clear-plastic "energon" parts, which form an under-slung cannon and jet boosters in jet mode, and can combine to form an "energon spear" melee weapon which can have the blade removed to become a sniper rifle.

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===Robotmasters===
[[File:RM-toy RBlade.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''R-Blade''' (Autobot, 2004)
**''ID number:'' '''RM-05'''
**''Accessories'': "Sonic Lance" missile, "Flare Gun" rifle

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Cyberjet]] [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] mold, R-Blade transforms into the swing-wing Navalized Advanced Tactical Fighter variant of the Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor, with a deco clearly inspired by the original [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] toy. In both modes, he has a pressure-launch missile launcher (dubbed the "Gauntlet Frame"). He only came with a single "Sonic Lance" missile, unlike other versions of this sculpt, which came with multiple missiles.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/R-Blade/r-blade.htm More information on R-Blade at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2007)===
[[File:Mov2007-toy Skyblast.JPG|right|upright=1.67|thumb|right]]
*'''Skyblast''' (Scout, 2007)

: Part of the second assortment of Target-[[exclusive]] Scouts, Skyblast is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] mold, transforming into a Cybertronic starfighter. He comes with multiple accessories that can attach to his jet mode for rocket-boosters and an underslung cannon. In robot mode, these parts re-assemble to form a giant spear.

: This toy was repurposed as [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[Star Saber (SG)|Star Saber]]

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Skyblast/skyblast.htm More information on Skyblast at TFU.info]''
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[[File:Movie2007 AirRaid toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Air Raid''' (Scout, 2007)
**''Acccessories:'' Cannon, jet boosters (all combine to form a spear)

: Part of the third wave of [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] Scouts, Air Raid is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] mold, transforming into a Cybertronic starfighter. He comes with multiple accessories that can attach to his jet mode for rocket-boosters and an under-slung cannon. In robot mode, these parts re-assemble to form a giant spear, although if preference desires, you can leave them separated and have the spear handle as a hand-held rifle, with the head split in half and clipped to his wrists.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/TargetAirRaid/airraid.htm More info on Target Scout Air Raid at TFU.info]''

*"Dino Sparkers" (Dino Sparkers, 2014)

Each Dino Sparkers figure comes with a really long sword, which in fact, looks more like a, more appropriate, lance.

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===Animated===
[[File:Deluxeanimatedsentinel.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Sentinel Prime''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-28'''
**''Accessories:'' Lance, shield

: Sentinel Prime transforms into a metallic blue monster-truck snowplow, and is armed in robot mode with his trademark Skyboom shield and lance. Either item can fit in either of his hands, and the shield has a ring mount to allow the lance to attach to it for transporting on the back of the vehicle mode. Surprisingly for an otherwise pointy object, the lance is actually cast in hard plastic. The weapons are also painted blue rather than cast in translucent plastic, an unusual choice for modern "energy" weapons.

: In a surprising reversal from the norm, the TakaraTomy release uses softer, rubbery plastic on the lance rather than the harder plastic of the Hasbro release.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/SentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]''

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===Prime===
* The '''Supernova Lance'''' can be formed by combining the following toys:
**'''Arcee Blade''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''SP Cure'''
**'''Ratchet Spanner''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''AP Cure'''
**'''Wheeljack Kunai''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''HP Cure'''

===Prime===
[[File:Prime-toy JayzG.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Battle Shield Optimus''' (Multi-pack, [[August 12|8-12]] 2012)
** ''Energon crystal'': '''AP Positro'''

: This gold version of Jayz, dubbed '''Jayz G''', was made available ''before'' the normal version. Like all pack-in Arms Microns, he comes unassembled and unpainted on a set of runners. Once assembled (and given [[sticker]]s if you so choose), he transforms from a humanoid robot into a lance. He has numerous [[5mm post]]s and holes that allow him to combine with other Arms Microns to form any number of "Combo Weapons" and "Super Combo Weapons", though he is specifically designed to form the bottom of the [[Cosmotector]] shield with [[Sais]] and [[Pral]].

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1637.html Gold Jayz, Pral and Sais at Alfes's toy blog]''

[[File:Prime-toy Jayz.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Jayz''' (AMW Micron, [[August 25|8-25]] 2012)
**''ID number:'' '''AMW-09'''
** ''Energon crystal'': '''AP Positro'''

: The "normal" blue version of Jayz is an individually-sold [[Arms Micron]], coming in a baggie as part of the second wave of "AMW" releases.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1650.html#more Pral, Sais and Jayz at Alfes's toy blog]''

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====Beast Hunters====
[[File:PrimeBHtoy-SharkticonMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Megatron/Sharkticon Megatron''' (Voyager, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''02 / 006'''
**''Accessories'': Tartarex Warp Sword/Sharktooth Spear

:Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime:]] [[Beast Hunters]]'' Voyager Class toys, [[Megatron (WFC)#Beast Hunters|Megatron]] is an extensive [[retool]]/[[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Megatron (WFC)#Voyager|Megatron]]. He wields the "Tartarex Warp Sword", a fish-themed cannon that can convert into a sword-harpoon thing.

:The [[instructions]] refer to this weapon as the less cool-sounding "Sharktooth Spear". There also exists a [[packaging]] [[variant]] for this toy: Early shipments called the weapon the "Tartarex Warp Sword", whereas a later running change version changed the packaging to reflect the name given in the instructions.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/SharkticonMegatron/megatron.htm More information on the Tartarex Warp Sword (with Megatron) at TFU.info]''

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[[File:PrimeBeastHunterstoy-Wheeljack.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 004'''
**''Accessories'': Falcon Spear, disc

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime:]] [[Beast Hunters]]'' Deluxe Class toys, [[Wheeljack (Prime)#BHDeluxe|Wheeljack]] is a [[redeco]] and extensive [[retool]] of [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|"Robots in Disguise"]] [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Deluxe|Deluxe Class Wheeljack]], and comes with the "Falcon Spear", a large pole-arm with a spearhead that is sculpted to resemble a dragon's head, and can launch its disc via pressure launch.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/Wheeljack/wheeljack.htm More information on the Falcon Spear (with Wheeljack) at TFU.info]''

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===Cyberverse===
[[File:PrimeBHtoy-Cyberverse-OptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''3 / 001'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher & missile (combine to form Thunder Lance), [[Star Saber (Prima)#BHCyberverse|Star Saber]]

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 3|Series 3 ''Cyberverse'']] Commander Class toys, Optimus Prime is an all-new mold. He now transforms into a monstrous, flat-nosed truck with spiky fenders at the front and a cage compartment at the back, and comes with the Thunder Lance and Star Saber. Each of the weapons features two differently-placed 3mm posts, allowing them to be held by his hands, or mount onto two ports on the rear vehicle sides, as well as allowing the lance to additionally be used as a pressure-fired missile launcher.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CybCommOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on "Beast Hunters" Cyberverse Optimus Prime at TFU.info]''

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==Notes==
[[File:AHM 01 CoverA.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|right]]
*[[All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1]]'s cover shows [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] having impaled [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus]]'s head upon a pike. This didn't happen in the story proper though.
*Although all the variations of pole weaponry included in this article are normally categorized distinctly from one another, Transformers fiction and naming conventions widely use the terms interchangeably.
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Pzzone:

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==Newbie==
Hi, Pzzone here, and I'm new to this site. I was wondering if there's like a guide for editing on the wiki or wiki rules or something, in fact I'm not even sure this is the right place to post questions.

==Minor internet fame==
I don't know if everyone saw this, but we made Us Vs Th3m's favourite wiki definition of "[http://usvsth3m.com/post/84521565788/wikipedias-entry-for-human-is-like-a-bizarrely human]". It's nice to get a bit of recognition :) --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
::Argh, I just realised they linked to the wrong wiki :( --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:27, 15 July 2014 (EDT)
:Well ''technically'' it's our article.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] ([[User talk:Carrion|talk]]) 06:18, 15 July 2014 (EDT)

== Transformers: Human Alliance ==

I noticed the wiki has no article on the recent(ish) arcade shooter, "Transformers: Human Alliance". It's based on the live-action films. I played through the game while I was on vacation a few weeks back. Besides a few strange occurrences(There are a LOT of Ravage and Scorponok, as they're both common enemies in some levels, though a "King Scorponok" appears as a boss. Brawl is misnamed, this time as "Decepticon Brawler"...), it was alright. I was wondering if there should be an article for it? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 22:05, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
:Absolutely! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:52, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. Went ahead and created [[Transformers: Human Alliance|a page for it]]. First page I've created on this wiki, so feel free to correct any errors I may have made. [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] ([[User talk:RazorSlash|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2014 (EDT)

== Toys vs. Merchandise ==

Okay, where the hell is the line meant to fall for these? Some stuff, like [[Heroes of Cybertron]] or Kabaya toys, I would definitely put under "Toys" is under "Merchandise". Merchandise is surely stuff like knitting patterns, M&Ms, tents, etc.

By the standards of what often goes under "merchandise", [[:File:AoE dino sparker Optimus and Grimlock.jpg|this]] should be merch, not toy... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 12:02, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:We had a discussion some time ago ([[Talk:Toy#What specifically is a "Transformers toy"?]]) but did not come up with any hard guidelines. My personal categorization would put Heroes of Cybertron, Kabaya kits and Dino Sparkers all into merchandise. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:30, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah, this has always been nebulously defined. IMO, 'merchandise' should be reserved for stuff that's not actually a representation of the character (i.e. their face on a lunchbox or something) or where 'playing with it' is clearly not the intended purpose (i.e. a statue). It seems absurd to me that, say, the SDCC Shockwave HISS Tank is listed as 'merchandise' when it's clearly a thing that is a toy, and intended to represent Shockwave in-fiction. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:14, 18 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm with Jalaguy on this. There could possibly be a sub-division of "toy" into transforming and non-transforming, or something like that, but the division as it is is (a) inconsistent and (b) insomuch as it is consistent, frequently irrational (HISS Shockwave being a good example of the latter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 13:50, 18 August 2014 (EDT)

== Maintenance ==

I'm going to take the server down briefly for maintenance in about half an hour. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:17, 7 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maintenance is done. Please feel free to go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:52, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

== Wikia links still in history pages ==

Here's a blast from the past:
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Lord_Imperious_Delirious&diff=126966&oldid=126965

I know this had been discussed in the past, and people had mentioned some sort of program that was automatically stripping them out. But if there's one left, there are probably more. Anything quick & simple that can be done to scan and purge? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:23, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I thought I had a solution, but the import thingy is being annoyingly uncooperative. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:16, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

== Third Party Unlicensed ==
This will probably never be allowed, right? I mean, some of them have pretty accurate depictions of in-fiction characters and machines, shouldn't they at least have a little info about their products on this wiki? {{unsigned|Optimus Prime (Convoy)}}
:The existence of unlicensed third party stuff is acknowledged on articles like [[Knockoff]] and [[Customizing]], and that's all there needs to be. This is a wiki about official Transformers products and fiction, and unofficial toys are no more within our purview than, say, people's fan-art. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:35, 31 October 2014 (EDT)
::I know this topic was brought near two months ago but can't we at least make a separate page for 3rd party items? It's an entire subject in and of itelf. The page could be similar in structure to the Knockoff page in not listing everything but at least defining the term, talking about how the market for it expanded or a brief general history, talking about the impact on the fandom, legal analysis, toss in some notable companies or examples, maybe make a small section of their significance today or something, misconceptions including differences from a knockoff. It at least deserves it's own separate page, especially since it's not the same as a knock off and again, there's enough info about it to give it a catchall page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:20, 20 December 2014 (EST)

=="Order of appearance" and another suggestion==

Is there any reason why we do this? It doesn't really seem to convey any important information and is just tedious work for editors, especially on pages with many character appearances. Furthermore, I think [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VI:_Return_of_the_Jedi#Appearances Wookieepedia's "appearances" format] is a lot better for our uses, since it includes mentioned characters and other stuff like locations and technology. As is, we don't really have a way to collect all of the concepts that appear in a piece of fiction and provide red links for pages that need to be created. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 15:21, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:For stuff like comics, order of appearance helps you identify characters. As in, if I'm wondering who a certain guy is, I can use the numbers to count along and find out. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::I know I've found it useful when writing up characters' articles, and have been able to use the appearance order to quickly find them within the episode or comic. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:49, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::I vote for keeping order of appearances. I do like the idea of mentioned characters, locations and technology being neatly listed as well though... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 16:41, 4 November 2014 (EST)
::::Agree with Ascendron. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:59, 4 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I guess I'm alone in disliking the appearance numbers, but what about including lists of other stuff? We'd have to make up new templates and stuff for that, though. Maybe copy Wookieepedia's?. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 08:46, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::I can see the appeal of lists of locations and technology, but I'm somewhat leery of actually doing it. I'm not familiar with Wookieepedia, but over at Memory Beta (Star Trek novels, comics and other non-canon sources) a sample list of "other references" includes "balloon ... bench ... fiesta". Are such things what you are talking about listing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::No. Things we actually make articles for. Null ray, Gorlam Prime, Afterspark, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 11:02, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::Well, we would have to establish some guidelines before we implement this. I don't think listing "Null ray" every time Starscream shows up would be necessary. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 12:42, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::"Fusion cannon" might be a better example of how it would be a problem, since Starscream doesn't use the null ray on every appearance, but the fusion cannon is Megatron's primary weapon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 13:35, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::I'm not sure I'm seeing the problem? It counts as an appearance for the fusion cannon and it doesn't take up a whole lot of space on the article. We can implement show/hide options for the whole list if we have to. Isn't the point to note whenever X appears and give readers a convenient link if they want to learn more about X? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:27, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::Wouldn't there already be convenient links in the summary? How is this list more useful than what we already have and less silly than the sort of thing I mentioned from Memory Beta?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::[[Special:LonelyPages]]
::::::::::::And that's just the pages that have '''no''' links. Lots more have only one or two when they should have many more. Stuff habitually, systematically goes underlinked or downright unlinked at present. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 14:43, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:::::::::::::The vast majority of those links are, like, production crew members. I don't think this problem is solved by the proposed changes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:50, 6 November 2014 (EST)
::::::::::::@Walky: I know most of the zero-links are, but there's no easy way to get a list of "pages linked very few times", unfortunately, only the downright orphans, so I went with what I had. The fact that there's *any* examples of stuff that would be helped going forward there should be indicative of pages being underlinked in summaries.
::::::::::::(I've personally gone through and linked to pages that were on that list, or whose Special:Whatlinkshere revealed only one or two links, but I won't claim to have done much more than scratch the surface on that matter) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 07:52, 7 November 2014 (EST)

===Underlinking===
Just in light of the above, here's a few pages that are linked ''only from the images on the pages themselves'' and are thus ''de facto'' orphans even if they don't show up on [[Special:Lonelypages]] (notwithstanding the links below themselves!):
*[[Becky's Coffee Shop]]
*[[Food Manor]]
*[[Hy's Frozen Foods]]
*[[Laser-saw]]
*[[Marcos' Pizzeria]]
*[[Melia Autos]]
*[[Moving Sam's]]
*[[Neuro-control helmet]]
*[[Pan-galactic telescope]]
*[[Polymer-glass]]
*[[Portland Express]]
*[[Shoe Fair]]
*[[Sonic probe]]
*[[Sunnydale Retirement Village]]
*[[Talon's Point]]
*[[The Record]]
*[[The Star-Spangled Banner]]
*[[Trans]]
*[[Transference Station Two]]

As of last night, there were a total of 731 pages that only had one link to them (including ones like the list above) and 511 that only had two links. (I could post the whole of both lists, but I didn't want to swamp the page) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 11:00, 16 December 2014 (EST)
:By the way, how did you find pages that are only linked to in one place in the end? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:55, 12 January 2015 (EST)
::Not simply. It basically involved comparing the entirety of [[Special:Mostlinked]] (shows two links or more when you drill down far enough) to the entirety of [[Special:AllPages]], then taking the stuff from the resulting list and further knocking out the contents of [[Special:Lonelypages]], [[:Category:Disambiguation pages]] and the first few hundred of [[Special:Shortpages]]. Even with AWB, it took a while.
::Tell you what, I'll post the lists (technically incomplete, since I purged some unlikely stuff to get the numbers down a bit) on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Underlinked]] in a moment. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:48, 12 January 2015 (EST)
:::Cheers! I'm surprised there's not an extension to add a special page to construct that list. I mean, it'd just be Most Linked Pages backwards, but it seems like it would be sensible. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:20, 13 January 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. (And more than "just" - if MostLinked is set to cached (as Wikimedia and Wikia do), then only the first thousand results come up, so building that list would have been impossible.) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:23, 15 January 2015 (EST)

==The Almanacs==

(Thread started in response to someone asking him if had any regrets on past works, leading to Derrick bringing up "Getting the Almanacs in line"

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120967236212

http://ask.fm/DerrickJWyatt/answer/120968889460

I just wanted to note there that conservation with Derrick J Wyatt about the Allpsark Almanacs gives some pertinent insight into their construction.

Now from what I can parse, they’re set in a kind of bizarre “Reverse Alignment” scenario, where despite being published officially, Authorial Intent states that they no not match up with what the actual production team made. Now, I’m not the tfwiki pro some folks here are (I still think IDW being g1 is a load of crud but bygone and bygones…) so I don’t know how best to handle this. A note I suppose?
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:There's nothing much to handle. I suppose a note and a link to those answers could be put in somewhere, but it's not really anything special for Transformers to have additions to a franchise/continuity not made by it's original creators not line up with their unrealized intentions. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:10, 5 November 2014 (EST)

I get what you mean, but in this case what gave me pause was that this is less "unrealized" and more "unseen" as opposed to say, the creator's personal vision, in this case it's a gap in oversight. The way he speaks, there is an actual TFA timeline they used in the series and otherwise information, that the Almanac isnt accurate to, in that case, what we have is material that exists as was used as the background of the canon show, but was pre-empted by a canon release that was made in error. Basically, what I'm saying is, by circumstance and accident, a timeline was published in an official release that does not match the one used for the actual canon product. Thus me saying "unseen" rather than "unrealized" given the show itself is the realization of those intentions.[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]])
::"Made in error"? What was the error? If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and the actual show, comics, or other canon materials, those would be errors. If there are contradictions between the Almanacs and things in a production bible or something like it, or concepts and timeline ideas the showrunners had that they never actually put in the show or anywhere else, or just stuff people who worked on the show don't like, those are not errors at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:45, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:I added a note about Wyatt's criticisms to the bottom of the first Almanac article. But until these other production materials that were used by the show's creators or some other conflicting timeline or storyline elements are released (which may never happen), then there's no reason to overhaul the existing article. A note about creator dissatisfaction seems all that's really necessary at this juncture. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 15:52, 5 November 2014 (EST)

:Besides, like Kil said, this is so common in Transformers stories. Furman's planned timeline for IDW G1 is probably nothing like it at this point, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:58, 5 November 2014 (EST)
::Good point. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 16:33, 5 November 2014 (EST)
:::The sooner folks disabuse themselves of the idea that Derrick Wyatt's headcanon is the be-all end-all of Animated, the better. Animated isn't some special snowflake to be entirely defined by one or two guys, it's the same as any other TF franchise, free to be interpreted and added to by other creators. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:55, 5 November 2014 (EST)

True, but the way he spoke (both about possible re editions and the "us") made it seem more like the crew just didnt vet them as well as they could. That and the whole "Mass rewriting of the bios" would lead me to believe a note is in order. Obvious a rehaul is impossible unless we get acesss to the materials, and even then probably wouldn't bear more than a note until the possible pie in the sky Alamanac re issues.

Also, a bit tense on the text aint you Mr. McFeely? Not trying to come at you bro. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:.....did you listen to a single thing he just said? Just because the "us" (I'm presuming the other one in this is Isenberg) didn't agree with some of the bios doesn't mean everything in the book is invalidated. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:21, 6 November 2014 (EST)
:If I am being tense on the text, I, likewise, am now trying to come at you. I've just seen this attitude around and it bugs me. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:02, 7 November 2014 (EST)

What was published was published. That is what the wiki places importance on. We are not unwriting bios to remove canonical information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:31, 7 November 2014 (EST)

:Dude (Lush City), I already added a note, but only commenting on the dissatisfaction of 1 creator which is all this situation really amounts to. The Almanacs were approved by Hasbro. They're canon. They count. They're legit. Whether Wyatt likes them or not. A small note about incongruity with creator intent is about all that's called for (and it's been added). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 08:57, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Didn't I just say what the four of you did? I don't know why you felt it necessary to get aggressive when I agreed with you that the note was probably all that would be placed until a published contradiction. In any case the note last I saw it was a bit jury rigged, I'll tighten it up a bit. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 17:17, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Help archiving an old game ==

Hello.
This game [[Transformers Energon: Battle for Megatron]] was apparently lost to time.
This [http://www.lmpd.com/arcade/index.php?action=play&aid=94 link] where it was hosted is defunct, but now, I found it here [http://media.lmpd.com/94.dcr], on the same site, by digging through the source code of the Google Cache version of the page.
I downloaded the file but if I open the local version, the game doesn't start.
The file 94.dcr is a Shockwave file made with Adobe/Macromedia Director.
This is actually not a Flash game, but a Shockwave game.
How can we properly archive this game?
[[User:Alexvoda|Alexvoda]] ([[User talk:Alexvoda|talk]]) 21:36, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:I tried the lmpd.com link, and the game worked for me once I installed the Shockwave plugin. The dcr file wouldn't run off my hard drive, but when I stuck it on a web server it worked fine, so I guess it just doesn't like running locally. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:59, 10 November 2014 (EST)

== TFWiki.net... pages ==

Shouldn't [[Special:PrefixIndex/TFW|all these]] be in the Transformers Wiki: namespace, rather than the article namespace? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 21:17, 29 November 2014 (EST)

== Still purging talk page redirects? ==

Just in case, I'll leave this here ;) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 00:11, 6 December 2014 (EST)

<nowiki>[Huge list snipped]</nowiki>
:And then they were all deleted! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:23, 22 December 2014 (EST)

== Fight! Superlifeform whatevers...uh I think I have a holy grail or whatever? ==

I have a special edition of the transformers movie and it comes with a Japanese exclusive bonus episode called Scramble City. There is this clip before the episode that has More than meets the eye Part 1, 2 and 3 together. Is this one of the lost clip shows? --[[User:Wavage|Wavage]] ([[User talk:Wavage|talk]]) 7:38 AM, 13 December 2014
:Sorry, no, those are part of [[Scramble City: Mobilization]] according to the trivia on that page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)

==Transformers Asia Page==

Should Transformers Asia maybe have it's own page? It's been a venue of a number of releases and it's certainly tied to the brand. Also it would help clear up misconceptions about whether something released through Transformers Asia (or Hasbro Asia as it's popularly called) counts as a Hasbro or Takara release (for instance the upcoming MP11SW which I've seen argued as a Hasbro release and not a TakaraTomy due to being released through HasbroAsia even though there's a TakaraTomy label on it). It'd also be a place to list the various special releases done through them just like we do with some of our store pages such as [[Toys R Us]] or [[Target]]--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 03:28, 20 December 2014 (EST)
:When I google Transformers Asia, I get what seems to be a fan website. Any article should probably stick to Hasbro Asia to avoid confusion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:26, 22 December 2014 (EST)
::I'm fairly certain www.transformersasia.com is the actual site for it; could be wrong but that's the closest thing I can find in googling either name (most news posts end up refering to that site as well) Not sure if Hasbro Asia was ever the official name to begin though--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 15:18, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:::Well, [http://www.transformersasia.com/about their about page] says "TransformersAsia.com started with a group of "DIE HARD" Transformers fans, Our mission is to share information related to Transformers such as Asia Exclusive, Promotion, Event which happen here in Asia." which seems to suggest it's a fan site disseminating information rather than an official site through which exclusives are released. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:36, 22 December 2014 (EST)

==charstubfictions -> Bibliography?==

First, major applause for Ascendron for getting all the micro-continuities labeled on all the individual character pages. While working through them, though, I feel like there has to be a better way to reflect some of these. Trying to come up with in-fiction explanations for what characters did in some of these stories is excruciating. There were 62 characters depicted in ''[[The Beast Within]]'', but for 52+ of them, all that can be written is "There once was a battle and X was present for it." There are 34 characters for the storybook ''[[Battle for Earth]]'', and most can be described as "There was one panel in this book where they appeared." A short write-up for one episode of Sunbow or one issue of Marvel/IDW fades into the crowd, but now we'll have one '''bold''' header after another with one line descriptions of all these sticker books, coloring books, etc. Even once its all filled in, I don't think it will look good -- describing the roles most characters had in these books isn't informing or benefiting the visitors.

Instead of the current format, how about compressing some of these micro-continuities into a single Fiction Bibliography, or miscellaneous section, at the bottom of the Fiction section. It could be headed with something like, "(Prowl) also had a minor role in the following stories: *list". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:19, 1 January 2015 (EST)
:I'd be down for something like this. A subsection for "Fiction" labelled "Minor Appearances" or "Cameos" would be interesting. I just request that the link to the corresponding articles are preserved.
:On another note, although I did try to do a pretty thorough job on every character's pages to make sure they were as complete as possible in this regard, I didn't bother to go through western comic book series (IDW, Dreamwave, Marvel comics, etc...) or any television shows, American or Japanese. There's also a few fiction pages that were too incomplete for me to know which characters appeared in them. Not asking anyone to do these for me or anything, just a heads up. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 19:01, 23 January 2015 (EST)

==RID Chinese==
So I recently found out (slowpoke me) that RID(2015) had several episodes reelased in a Mandarain dub. are there any fan projects, or links within the Chineese TF Community, to where we could get enough informatuion to make pages for them all?

That many episodes means that we basically have a wealth of information to go on, just packaged in a bit of an odd nut to crack

[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 15:48, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:I think it's safer to wait for the English screenings. Translations could easily turn out to be wrong and context lost. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)

==20,000 Articles!==
Hurrah, right? Big round number? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 14:45, 5 February 2015 (EST)

John Keller

2015-02-11T02:26:03Z

Pzzone:

{{disambig2|the movie human|the ''Animated'' human|John Keller (Animated)}}
:''John Keller is a [[human]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Johnkeller.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Keller sidesteps comedy gold by not being the [[Vice President of the United States|Vice President]].]]
'''John Keller''' is [[wikipedia:United States Secretary of Defense|Secretary of Defense]] of the [[United States of America]]. He not only seems to pretty much run the country while the [[George W. Bush|President of the United States]] binges on [[Ding Dong]]s, but he's also rather handy with a shotgun.

He doesn't want to hear any of this [[Transformer|alien robot]] crap.

==Fiction==
===''Transformers'' (2007) film===
:''Actor:'' [[Jon Voight]] (English), [[Minoru Hirano]] (Japanese dub voice), [[Jomeri Pozzoli]] (Brazilian dub voice), [[Rubén Moya]] (Latin American Spanish-language dub voice)

[[Image:Movie2007 Keller newsconference.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Option one for scandal control: deny everything. Option two: blame it on the other party. Option three: start an incident with a foreign power to distract people.]]
After the [[SOCCENT Forward Operations Base]] in [[Qatar]] was attacked by [[Blackout (Movie)|unknown hostiles]], Keller led a briefing on what they knew to a group of [[Pentagon]]-computer technicians, informing them that someone had tried to hack the Defense Network during the attack. Later, when [[Air Force One]] was hacked by [[Frenzy (Movie)|another unknown hostile]], he ordered the President to be placed in the Presidential bunker.

When he was briefed on the possible countries that were capable of such hacks, [[Maggie Madsen]], who had led the team which discovered the second hack, informed him that those countries were incapable of such work. When she suggested that it might be a living organism behind it, Keller told her to find some evidence, or shut up. However, he was later informed that survivors of the base attack were under attack by a hostile. When the Pentagon received video feed, they saw that the hostile was [[Scorponok (Movie)|a never before seen creature]]. After the creature was driven off, Keller ordered the men to be returned to the states and debriefed.

[[Image:Movie2007 Keller OBVIOUSVISUALAID.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Both Keller and Banachek fail to realize that these photos are actually from last year's BotCon.]]
Later, a virus which had been uploaded by the second hacker led to a global communications shutdown. During that time, [[Tom Banachek]] arrived from [[Sector Seven]], an organization Keller had never heard of, with orders from the President to brief Keller. Taking him to the briefing room, Banachek showed Keller images of the [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] [[Beagle 2 Rover]]. Officially, the rover had crashed and been lost. Unofficially, thirteen seconds of information had been sent before the rover had been destroyed by a [[Decepticon|humanoid creature]]. Visibly horrified, Keller was then shown a picture of the Mars alien, as Banachek then compared that with images of the "weapons platform" the SOCCENT survivors had taken before their retreat. When Keller asked if the planet was under threat of invasion, Banachek told him to look out at the static filled screens. Keller ordered the dispatched naval fleets to be returned somehow, and had Madsen brought with him as his advisor, along with ''her'' advisor [[Glen Whitmann]].

Taken to [[Hoover Dam]], Keller met with [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]], CO of the SOCCENT survivors, and informed him that they were doing their best to load all gunships with sabot rounds. Going inside, he was shocked to see a frozen [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E.-1]], and was very upset that he had never been informed about it. This was made even worse when [[Sam Witwicky|some kid]] told them that N.B.E.-1, whose real name was [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], was the harbinger of death and planned to turn all of Earth's machines to conquer the galaxy with some device called the [[AllSpark]]. During a demonstration of the AllSpark's power, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] brought Glen's Nokia produced cellphone [[Nokia-bot|to life]], commenting that the Japanese were skilled inventors. When Maggie commented that Nokia was from Finland, Keller reminded her that Simmons was a strange man.

[[Image:Movie2007 Keller morsecode.jpg|left|300px|thumb|"Hurry up and download the trailer for ''Revenge of the Fallen'', or Simmons gets it in the butt!"]]
After [[Starscream (Movie)|a Decepticon]] attacked the Dam and Megatron began to unthaw, Keller accompanied the others to the armory. During the standoff between Agent Simmons and Captain Lennox over releasing [[Bumblebee (Movie)|the kid's Camaro]], Keller advised Simmons to listen to Lennox. After the Camaro shrank the AllSpark, Keller, Simmons, Maggie, and Glen went to the archives room, where they attempted to send out a radio signal to support the soldiers taking the cube to [[Mission City]]. Sadly, the radio had no microphones, but Glen attempted to connect a computer to the radio. Their efforts were interrupted by a spastic little abomination that had hacked Air Force One. Keller provided cover fire with an old shotgun while Glen worked. Fortunately, the spastic abomination killed itself with one of its own razors. After contact was made, Keller used his authorization codes to send air support to Mission City.

After the Decepticons were destroyed, Keller informed the military that Sector Seven was to be shutdown, and that the Decepticon corpses were to be dropped in the [[Laurentian Abyss]], which Keller said was the deepest place on the planet. [[wikipedia:Mariana Trench|Oops]]. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Shortly after Megatron's death and the destruction of the AllSpark, Simmons, Keller and Banachek were on their way to [[Mission City]] when [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] attacked Hoover Dam. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 2|The Reign of Starscream #2}}

A month later, after the Decepticon [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] was inadvertently reactivated and rampaged across Sector Seven's [[Nevada]] desert facility, Keller called Simmons and informed him that effective immediately, Sector Seven was dissolved and that he had put Captain Lennox in charge of the operation, ending Simmons's employment. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}}

==Notes==
* Keller's accent makes it sound like he's calling the [[Transformer|robots]] "robits".
* Keller's appearance in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers: Movie Adaptation|Movie Adaptation]]'' did not look anything like Jon Voight, and the character was portrayed as a General instead of the Secretary of Defense. The former was due to the fact IDW was not (and still is not) allowed to use the likeness of several actors playing the secondary characters, and it is assumed the latter was due to IDW using an older version of the script.
*Keller is a badass

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Skids (ROTF)

2015-02-11T02:15:27Z

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{{factions|autobotfilm|NEST}}
{{disambig3|Skids}}

:''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:ROTF Skids promo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Look, it's that robot child actor that grew up and robbed a convenience store.]]

The dopey-looking '''Skids''' spends a lot of his time arguing with his [[The Twins|twin]] brother [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and trying to outdo him in crazy stunts, all while believing ''he's'' the responsible, level headed one. In his own mind, everything dangerous and dopey he does is simply making him a better warrior. And that means one day, one ''glorious'' day, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] will ''notice'' him! Prime even looking in his direction makes him babble, fall over, and generally fail to make an impression, but that won't stop him trying! Underneath it all, he harbors a secret fear that Mudflap is actually the superior warrior of the pair... which is probably true.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Skids Battle Bio]</ref>

Skids' hyper-reactive optical imaging scanner allows him to process tactical information faster than ''anyone'' (except his twin). Add that to his supreme firepower and his unpredictable actions, and he's a pain in the aft for any [[Decepticon]] who wants to counter him! And that's only if they spot him. He changes alt-mode so much it's hard to keep track of him. On Earth, he's already been part of an ice-cream truck (combining with his brother), and more recently a Chevy Beat, but that's unlikely to last very long.

{{bigquote|Undercover y'all. Y'know, ya gotta blend into your surroundings, gotta be part of the landscape—OW!|A less-than-successful Skids tries to conceal himself|''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[File:Tales of the Fallen Issue 6 Twins.jpg|right|thumb|upright=0.85|Rob Schneider is... DERP!]]
Some time after hearing Optimus Prime's rallying call but before making it to Earth, Skids and Mudflap were kidnapped by [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and taken to an unspecified Decepticon outpost. There, unscrupulous Decepticon medic [[Flatline (ROTF)|Flatline]] attempted to forcibly reprogram them into loyal Decepticon soldiers, but all he ended up doing was knocking out a good chunk of their intellect and reasoning skills. They probably would've spent the rest of their days locked up and experimented on if a recently upgraded [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] had not sprung them from their cell. Even though they didn't understand everything the silly biker ladies were saying, Skids and Mudflap let Arcee escort them both to their stolen ship, past hordes of drones, Flatline and Thundercracker himself before the outpost self-destructed. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 6|Tales of the Fallen #6}}

[[File:Alliance04 icecreamtruck.jpg|left|thumb|upright=0.85|Skids is the one in front.]]
Skids and Mudflap arrived on [[Earth]] as part of Autobot reinforcements that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] with [[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]], [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]], [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] on the [[Wrecker]]s ship [[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]. The ship and the Wreckers stayed behind in [[NASA]], {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}{{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3}}. They both chose the [[combiner|combined]] form of an old, beat-up ice cream truck. The newly arrived Autobots joined the human-Transformer military alliance [[NEST]] and began training in earnest on [[Diego Garcia]], but soon had to be deployed to [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}
{{-}}

===Titan Comics ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Skids first met [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] when they were about to be thrown into a [[smelting pool]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}} He and his twin are well known for tall tales and messing about, enough so that people have stopped believing their claims. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

[[File:Titan2-1 Skids.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.95|You know what? ''You'' tell him he looks dopey.]]

Skids and Mudflap happily stayed on Cybertron, going through intensive training (which ''totally'' wasn't goofing off) and having extreme-sports contests. Neither wanted to leave their homeworld, and they were the only Transformers on it until [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] turned up with [[Purple generic drones|a Decepticon army]]. When they heard him mention a [[Star Harvester]], they realised they should tell someone...but Skids worked out the fastest way to do that would be in person, meaning they'd have to leave their homeworld.

The decision was made for them when the Decepticons attacked. Skids angrily blew away some of the jet-drones when they shot his brother, using an impressive missile barrage, and used transform-and-shoot moves to keep their pursuers away...but he realised this was delaying the inevitable. They fled the planet, with Skids remembering to head for Earth, the site of Optimus's message. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

[[File:Titan2 twinsbeats.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|...actually, no, tell him to ''put some clothes on. JESUS!'']]

The twins made it to [[Earth]] soon, crash-landing in [[Toronto]], [[Canada]]. On the way in, Mudflap hit a [[Wikipedia: CN Tower|big tower]], but Skids felt it wasn't that big a deal. They swam their way to Ball's Falls, where they picked up Earth alternate modes and set out to try and find local Autobots and warn them about the Star Harvester.

Driving along the wrong side of the Interstate (Skids wanted a challenge!), the twins were attacked by the Seeker [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], trying to kill them on [[the Fallen]]'s orders. While Skids dissed Ransack's retro alt mode, he pursued them across [[Wikipedia: North by Northwest|open countryside]]. With their energon levels low, the airborne enemy kept up with the twins, and Skids soon collapsed, unable to run any further. He and his brother would've both died, if not for Bumblebee arriving and forcing the Seeker into retreat. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[File:Titan2-3 Mudflap face.jpg|right|thumb|"I hear you're racist now, Father! How'd you get involved in that sorta thing?"]]

Now living at [[NEST]]'s [[California]]n base with Bumblebee as their minder, Skids and Mudflap repeatedly asked to deliver their info to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—and only Optimus, much to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide's]] annoyance. He was more annoyed when they ambushed him (Skids tipping crates on him!) to get to Optimus...who, as it turns out, was away on a need-to-know mission anyway.

After this defeat, and with Ironhide having bluntly told them nobody believed them, they desperately asked to join in a NEST op in [[Las Vegas]]...getting turned down, because they were too crap to get involved. Annoyed with this, Skids went along with Mudflap's suggestion to go to Vegas and show Ironhide just what they could do! What they could do, it turned out, was screw up a successful mission by freeing [[Grindor (ROTF)|a captured Decepticon]] by trying to "shoot him down". Skids was left mortified. Ironhide, recognising what they were trying to do, told him that maybe they could work on training the twins not to jump in without looking, and that the trick was to learn from mistakes. The twins claimed they'd try. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

They soon wished they hadn't, as they were condemned to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Orkney Islands]] base for days of sim-com (simulated combat) training under [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]. Skids had a nagging feeling this was just an excuse to keep them away from the main action, and both protested to Sideswipe that they could handle Decepticons. Him pointing out their failure with Grindor shut them up. However, the training was interrupted when [[Ravage (ROTF)|a huge metal cat monster]] broke into the base, KOed Sideswipe, and tried to eat the twins!

[[File:Titan2-4 SkidsRavage.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4| That's a bad Mister Kitty!]]

They transformed and fled, drawing the creature into a trap where Skids used his weaponry to bring the roof down on it. When that failed, he deferred to and helped Mudflap carry out his plan of trapping the beast in a sim-com session on maximum setting. With that done, and with it revealed that the creature was sent after them by another Decepticon, they tried to fill in the revived Sideswipe... except the creature had gone, leaving their instructor with the view that ''they'd'' knocked him out in revenge for their training. Between that and Grindor, he thinks they're up to something... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[File:Titan2-5 twinsHEstartedit.jpg|right|thumb|Which one of you left the tap running!?]]

The twins were later taken to Diego Garcia, and ecstatic to learn Optimus was coming there! Sideswipe stated he didn't know about their info and wasn't here to talk to them, cutting off Skids as he attempted to mention the [[the Fallen|"dude they call the F-"]]. While their trainer told them how they weren't to see Prime, the twins cunningly drove off when he wasn't looking and headed for the base's runway. The mood soured when Skids noticed Mudflap was planning to pinch the credit for their intel, and soon the two of them were having a big fight and slagging match on the runway...

And so their first meeting with Optimus Prime was to be yelled at for conduct unbecoming of an Autobot warrior. (Mudflap started it!)

That was when [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] made his attack, blasting at the distracted Prime. Skids made the situation worse by accidentally tripping over Optimus, preventing him from taking control, and so Scorponok liberated the prisoner [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. Sideswipe, watching from a distance, believed Skids had done that ''deliberately'', and convinced Prime that the twins were traitors: they must have helped Scorponok get here and now assisted him in his mission, on top of freeing Grindor and attacking him at Orkney! Skids and Mudflap protested they were being set up because they knew too much, but it fell on deaf ears as they were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

[[File:Titan6 Samabducted.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|The car picks the driver.]]

Following this, the decision was made to exile the twins into orbit. A disgruntled Skids remarked they should've minded their own business and ignored the Fallen, but help was at hand... from the Decepticons? Freed by a Decepticon attack, an angry Skids realised they'd been framed ''again'' and now the Autobots would think they were massive traitors. The two went underground to clear their names, and hit on the foolproof plan of abducting [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]] from his house and pleading with him to tell their story to Optimus. All this did was cause Bumblebee to launch an attack to rescue Sam. Skids spat out the kid, remarking he'd need to clean his seats to get the organic off them, but that didn't stop Bumblebee holding him at gunpoint...

...until Soundwave arrived, gunning down the Autobot and offering the twins sanctuary in the Decepticons. Skids quickly agreed {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}, intending to get into a position where they could whallop a Decepticon and hand him over to the Autobots to clear their names. After some fun times of annoying the other Decepticons, the twins were dispatched to bring in an AWOL member; Skids was annoyed to find Mudflap didn't know they were just pretending, and hoped Soundwave would be sending a minder (either Grindor or Sideways) they could ambush.

[[File:Titan deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|''Two of these things are not like the other...'']]

The AWOL member turned out to be Ransack. Skids quickly lied to him, saying they'd ''totally'' been sent by [[the Fallen]] to bring him in from the cold. This deception worked, until the Decepticon minders attacked... both of them! Skids ordered Mudflap after Sideways while he launched suppressive fire on Grindor and dodged each shot. Unfortunately, the chopper bugged out with Ransack held captive. While the twins had captured Sideways, Skids wasn't satisfied: he was tired of taking the fall and being pushed around. He decided they were going to go gunning for Soundwave and bring down his whole conspiracy! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[File:Titan2-8 twinsanywaytowelcome.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.95]]
Upon returning to the Phobos base, it suddenly occurred to Skids that they had no plan... but, as Mudflap wisely pointed out to him, that never stopped them before! The twins stormed the base, but initial success was undone when Starscream and Soundwave fought back. Luckily, the two Decepticons were forced to run off after Ransack, who'd fled talking about reporting to the Fallen. Skids was left feeling that they'd just seen part of a really big, confusing picture. Unfortunately, this was just a short respite, as the twins discovered just what that army massing on Cybertron had been planning: to arrive at the Phobos base en route to Earth...

The twins stood ready to make their last stand, and Skids told his brother it had been an honour to work with him... when Optimus arrived with the other Autobots! The twins had been tracked to Phobos and to their shock, the other Autobots had realised they weren't traitors and were even apologising! And with all the street cred of uncovering the Phobos base, the twins were welcomed to the Autobots' Earth division. Skids briefly wondered if they should mention "the ''Fa-''" again, but was convinced not to by Mudflap. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}
{{-}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
{{voiceactor|[[Tom Kenny]] (English), [[Tomokazu Seki]] (Japanese)|[[Michael Pan]] (German), [[Vladimiro Conti]] (Italian), [[Alan Prieto]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}

[[File:ROTF-icecreamtruck.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|When the kiddies hear my bell, they all know to run like hell...]]

Skids and his brother were part of a taskforce deployed in Shanghai to root out Decepticon activity. In their combined ice cream truck [[alternate mode]], they rolled through the evacuated zone, taunting and trying to lure out the Decepticons in the area. When the Decepticons did show themselves, they gave chase to the escaping [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. However, their slow and ungainly choice of vehicle could not keep up with the fugitive, and they rounded a corner too sharply, tearing their combined form in half. Even though Mudflap took the blame for the separation, Skids still berated (and smacked) his brother for his failure. Skids reminded his brother that they were in a combat situation and wondered what was wrong with him.

[[File:ROTF Twins truck robot modes.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Yipee! It's Mister Whippy!]]
Upon arrival at [[Diego Garcia]] and NEST headquarters, the twins received new, separate alternate modes. A fight broke out between the two of them over which vehicle they wanted, and Skids "called" the [[Wikipedia: Chevy Beat|Beat]], resigning Mudflap to the form of a [[Wikipedia: Chevy Trax|Trax]].

Later, the twins, along with the other NEST-allied Autobots, were dispatched to look for [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]] when Decepticons were detected heading towards his college. After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was killed by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the twins helped the Autobot force fight off the Decepticon leader and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], allowing Sam, [[Leo Spitz]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] to make good their escape. Skids and Mudflap met up with Bumblebee and the humans, and together they fled to a remote location. After teasing Leo for a while for his panic attack, Sam inquired whether one of them could interpret the Cybertronic symbols he had become obsessed with, but the twins claimed that they couldn't read the ancient Language of the Primes, and weren't much into reading, anyway.

[[File:ROTF movie SkidsMudflap bigmother.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"Yousome people gonna die??"<br> "Yep. Wesa screwed."]]

With the help of the Decepticon [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], the group made their way to the Smithsonian, where the humans reactivated the venerable ex-Decepticon [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. He teleported them all to [[Egypt]] before telling them the tale of the original [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], the [[Star Harvester]], which had the potential to destroy all life on Earth, and finally, the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the key to activating the harvester, and possibly the only thing that could bring Optimus Prime back to life. When the Matrix could not be found at the ruins of [[Petra (Earth)|Petra]], the twins began arguing with each other over why they were following Sam, which soon escalated into physical violence. As their brawl nearly crushed the humans, Bumblebee picked up the twins in each hand, slammed them together, and threw them outside the ruins, which Skids considered to be just rude. Fortunately, their bickering created a hole in the wall where the [[Tomb of the Primes]] lay, and with it, the Matrix.

[[File:ROTF Skids toothless.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|More or less an improvement.]]
Making their way back to the Pyramids where NEST waited with Optimus Prime's body, the group came under attack by Starscream. Mudflap, Skids, Leo and Simmons acted as a decoy to lure the Decepticons away from Sam and Mikaela. Unfortunately, they attracted the attention of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], who [[combiner|combined]] into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and attacked by vacuuming up loose objects such as sand, cars, and Mudflap. As Skids mourned the loss of his twin, Simmons realized that the safest place to be was directly under the giant. But Mudflap had survived being vacuumed up by Devastator, and to escape he had blasted a hole through its head. To buy the humans time to escape, Skids clambered up Devastator's [[Hightower (ROTF)|right forepaw]] to assist Mudflap. Skids threw a cable to Mudflap, who grabbed it and swung off Devastator's head onto his arm. However, once they landed, Mudflap accidentally shot Skids in the face, knocking them off the arm and knocking out Skids' gold tooth in the process. At [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s command, Devastator continued onto the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===Toy bios===
Skids and his brother idolise Optimus Prime and the other great Autobot heroes, and joined the battle on Earth solely to be part of their crew. {{storylink|Mudflap (ROTF)#Deluxe Class Toys|Deluxe Mudflap}} In an early mission, however, they found themselves used as guinea pigs for experimental combination technology; trying to ''stay'' combined in their gestalt vehicle mode took up more of their focus than fighting Decepticons! {{storylink|#Deluxe Class Toys|Autobot Skids and Mudflap}}

Believing himself to be the "smart one" of the twins, Skids constantly tries to impress Autobot High Command with his <s>inane, random babbling about everything</s> insightful comments about things. {{storylink|Mudflap (ROTF)#Deluxe Class Toys|Deluxe Mudflap}} This chatter blows any stealth mission he's part of, so Ironhide has cunningly assigned Skids and his brother to create diversions (far, ''far'' away from him). {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Skids}}

===IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

Skids and Mudflap were in [[Seattle]] with NEST tracking the Decepticon straggler, [[Alice]]. They helped guide her stolen RV right into Sideswipe's sights, and he then impaled the "girl" in her seat. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}}

Later, when [[Theodore Galloway]] and his unit were attacked by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] en route to investigate the mysterious activities of the enigmatic [[Initiative]] at [[Hoover Dam]], the Autobots dispatched Skids and Mudflap to Galloway's aid. Together, they held Ransack off until a NEST strike team could arrive and finish him off. The Twins then accompanied Galloway and the soldiers to Hoover Dam, and while the Initiative forces had already cleared out, Skids and Mudflap realized what they had been after: residal energy from the [[AllSpark]] that had been kept there. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 4|Nefarious #4}} To uncover the Initiative's secret goals, the Autobot soon allied themselves with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], and followed his lead to the Initiative's base of operations in [[Crater Lake]], [[Oregon]]. Skids and Mudflap were deployed to attack the base from the east; when they were met with resistance in the form of the Initiative's troops, they took them out of the equation by disabling the advanced weaponry they were wielding with precision blasts. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} He and Mudflap then worked as back-up for Bumblebee's team of cadets in the final battle at Crater Lake. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

When NEST discovered that Starscream was selling Transformer weaponry to humans, a sting operation was staged in which [[Theodore Galloway]] would pose as a buyer to lure the Decepticons in. When [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]], [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] took the bait, The Twins joined Arcee and her sisters and the human forces of NEST in tackling them, the Decepticons we´re killed and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] taken as a prisoner. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}} after [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]] contacted NEST as [[Philadelphia]] was beign attacked by Decepticons, the Twins joined Prime and the Others. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} the Twins along the others arrived to Philadelphia. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Skids and Mudflap survived the battle and witness when the [[Driller]] took [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] away. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
[[File:DOTM Skids, Mudflap, Que and Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Skids: "Bay fired us from ''DOTM'', what a pussy!"<br/>Mudflap: "At least he [[Animation error#Continuity error|forgot to remove us from this scene]], HA!"]]
Skids and Mudflap could be spotted in vehicle mode at the end of an Autobot convoy as the team rolled into the hangar of NEST's [[Washington, D.C.]] base.

Later, what appears to be Mudflap can be seen parked next to Sideswipe, when Sam comes to NEST for the first time. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

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===''Dark of the Moon'' adaptations===
[[File:DOTM3 skids dies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|This scan is for all you film critics out there!]]
Skids and Mudflap were present at NEST's Washington base during Optimus Prime's conversation with [[Charlotte Mearing]] about the moon landings.

Later, the Twins were on hand when [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] revealed that he was in league with the Decepticons and killed Ironhide. As Sentinel turned his weapon toward Bumblebee, Skids charged forward to stop the treacherous Autobot, but wound up taking the full force of the blast himself and perished. But before he died, Skids last word's to Mudflap was "''Sorry, bro … guess I wasn’t … as smart … as I thought … sor—''" as he crumbled into dust under the effects of the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]]. Skids's death sent Mudflap into a rage, but even his righteous anger could not make him a match for Sentinel, and he too met his ends moments later. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation}}
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==Commercial appearances==
* Skids and Mudflap were present outside a [[Burger King]], and watched patiently alongside a group of [[human]] children who were waiting for a familiar [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Chevy Camaro]] to transform. Much to their chagrin, however, the car was revealed to be just "some dude's car" and not Bumblebee himself.

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===

====Legends Class Toys====
[[File:ROTF-toy Legends Skids.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|For some reason, [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] has no interest in [[Triple Takeover|making him into a chair]] anytime soon.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Legends, 2009/2010)

: [[Legends Class]] Skids is a simple, affordable small-scale toy. Amusingly, just like his brother Mudflap, the [[kibble]] on his arm actually works as his big deformed hand, only grossly oversized.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSkids/skids.htm More information on Legends Skids at TFU.info]''
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[[File:TargetLegendsOffroadSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Because what you want when you're offroading is a front-drive hatchback city car.]]
*'''Rally Mudflap and Offroad Skids''' (Legends multi-pack, 2010)

:This redeco of Legends Skids features white stripes, yellow headlights and various other changed details. He was packaged with a redecoed Mudflap as a [[Target]] exclusive two-pack, and was part of the [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]] [[subline imprint]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegOffroadSkids/skids.htm More information on Legends Offroad Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:ROTFtoy-SkidsDeluxe.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Kids, never try to deflect a fusion cannon blast with your face.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-10'''

:Skids was released as part of the second wave of deluxe class ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' action figures. He transforms into a green Chevy Beat Concept car with black stripe designs on either side and a black hood. His vehicle form features transparent blue windows. In robot mode, Skids features a "[[Mech Alive]]" [[gimmick]] that makes the fenders on the sides of his chest push out and his head move forward when the front grill is pushed inwards. Moving the head up and down through this gimmick may suggest it's meant to make him appear as though he is talking, but the packaging only says "Moving Armor Panels".

:Skids's right arm is larger than his left, just like his movie counterpart's. It features a small cannon that, when pressed, both makes the cannon stick out in a position more suitable for firing and activates Skids's "Punching Robot Fist" action. Despite this, his right hand is surprisingly poseable.

:Skids originally came with unpainted teeth cast in green plastic. A [[variant|running change variant]] adds gold paint for one tooth and white paint for the other one.<ref name="deluxeteeth">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/revenge-of-the-fallen/skids/1818/1/41/ Both variants of Deluxe Class Autobot Skids with painted and unpainted teeth at Seibertron.com]</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Deluxe Skids at TFU.info]''
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[[File:ROTF Deluxe Skids&Mudflap toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Hey look, it's the robot child actor who grew up and ''became'' a convenience store.]]
*'''Autobot Skids And Mudflap''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-20'''

:This two-pack of the twin Autobot brothers can combine into a single, old-fashioned ice cream truck. The vehicle splits in half right down the middle of its chassis (similar to how it does in the film) to create the two small robot forms. Other than the transformation, the toy features no [[gimmick]]s.

:Mudflap's heels are too thick for his feet to fold up properly in vehicle mode, though this can be fixed by trimming them. Also, this toy may be the first Transformer to feature the typeface Comic Sans, which is used to write "MADE FRESH FOR YOU" across both front wheel hubs. But that's on Skids's half, so Mudflap is partly absolved here.

:The ice cream truck features unpainted rust detailing.

:Amusingly, the ice cream truck accommodates [[Human Alliance]] human figures ''really'' well.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/IceCreamSkids/skids.htm More information on ice cream truck Skids at TFU.info]''
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[[File:ROTFDesertVersionSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Muddy Skids. Wait, ew.]]
*'''Desert Version Skids''' (Deluxe, 2009)
:This version of Skids has a sandblasted deco to closer match his onscreen appearance during the scenes in Egypt. It is only available in Japan with purchase of the Revenge of the Fallen DVD.
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[[File:TRUShanghaiShowdownSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|The good, the bad, the rusty.]]
*'''Shanghai Showdown''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
:The twins in this set have additional decals for you to put on (save for the "suck my popsicle" slogan) and painted rust and "Caution Children" for the ice cream truck mode. They come with a redecoed version of [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TRUSkids/skids.htm More information on Shanghai Showdown Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[File:ROTF FAB Missile Blast Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|That's not going to pick up any [[Charlene (cowgirl)|cowgirls]] any time soon.]]
*'''Missile Blast Skids''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:[[Fast Action Battlers]] Missile Blast Skids is quite similar in transformation engineering to [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers|Plasma Punch/Plasma Blast Bumblebee]], and even has a similar [[gimmick]] in having one arm being a spring-loaded projectile launcher.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/FABSkids/skids.htm More information on Missile Blast Skids at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy FAB OffroadSkids.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4]]
*'''Rally Mudflap & Offroad Skids''' (Fast Action Battler two-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:A [[redeco]] of Missile Blast Skids with different details, such as silver on the back of his car mode, Autobot insignias on his doors and his name on his windshield.

:This figure was only available in a two-pack alongside [[Mudflap (ROTF)#FAB2Pack|Rally Mudflap]]. So far, this two-pack has been confirmed to have been released in Hong Kong, the Philippines, and Australia. Despite misconceptions based on early solicitations, it appears these figures were never intended to be released individually.

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====Human Alliance====
{{anchor|haskids2009}}[[File:ROTFtoy-SkidsHumanAlliance.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Then again...]]
*'''Autobot Skids / Arcee / Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-25'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile
:Human Alliance Skids comes with a transforming figure of [[Arcee (Movie)#Human Alliance|Arcee]], as well as a posable figure of [[Mikaela Banes]] that can fit inside in Skids's vehicle mode, plugging into either of his seats via a small hole in her back. In robot mode, Skids' seats end up on his arms, and Mikaela can still sit in either of them. Skids' right arm also features a spring-loaded missile launcher that can rotate into place in front of the seat, with flip-up firing controls for Mikaela to take charge of. Mikaela can also stand on a small flip-up platform behind Skids (via peg-holes on her feet), manning a small non-firing minigun that flips out over the top of Skids' head. Additionally, Skids' palms each contain a peg, meaning Mikaela can securely stand or sit on her big buddy's hands.

:Finally, pressing down on the middle gray piece above Skids' eyes opens and closes his mouth, to simulate a talking motion.

:There is a small [[Show-accuracy|inaccuracy]] in the design of the toy's robot mode, being that the CGI robot's model doesn't have door wings; the doors cannot be hidden without modification. The primary weapons of HA Skids and HA Mudflap are also switched, being that the grappling hook actually belongs to Skids, while the gun belongs to Mudflap, instead.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/HASkids/skids.htm More information on Human Alliance Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Gravity Bots====
[[File:ROTF GravityBots Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|From car to novelty trash can in the blink of an eye!]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
:An extremely simplified version of Skids with a small tab on the bottom of his feet that when he placed on his feet will automatically transform him to robot mode. There is also one on his back side that when placed upon will transform him to his vehicle mode.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/GBSkids/skids.htm More information on Gravity Bots Skids at TFU.info]''
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====Robot Replicas====
[[File:ROTF-toy RobotReplicas Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)

:[[Robot Replicas]] Skids is a non-transforming, highly posable toy intended to be more accurate to Skids's CGI robot mode than transforming toys are capable of. Skids is approximately five inches tall and features articulation at his neck, shoulders, elbows, waist, hips, knees and feet. He also sports an arm cannon permanently attached to his right forearm.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RRSkids/skids.htm More information on Robot Replica Skids at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[File:TF2010toyline LegendsTunerSkids.JPG|right|thumb|upright=1.67|The white...]]
*'''Tuner Skids''' (Legends, 2010)

:Tuner Skids is a [[redeco]] of ROTF [[Legends Class]] Autobot Skids, colored similarly to Fast Action Battlers Offroad Skids.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegTunerSkids/skids.htm More information on Legends Tuner Skids at TFU.info]''

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[[File:EZDeliverySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Skid-Zette.]]
*'''Delivery Skids''' (EZ Collection, 2010)

:Delivery Skids is a redeco of Legends Class Skids in pink and white, referencing his and Mudflap's ice cream truck form. This toy was only available in Japan.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:TF2010-toy DeluxeTunerSkids.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|... and the black.]]
*'''Tuner Skids''' (Deluxe, 2010)

: Tuner Skids is a [[redeco]] of ROTF Deluxe Class Autobot Skids (Chevrolet Beat version) in black and a darker shade of green. His license plate says "1H8CONS," and on the back is a bumper sticker that reads "I helped make the Fallen falled!" While stock photography shows the figure has one gold painted tooth and one silver one, the figure actually has both teeth painted silver.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TunerSkids/skids.htm More information on Deluxe Tuner Skids at TFU.info]''

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*'''High-Speed Spy Battle''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
[[File:TargetHighSpeedSpyBattle.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|In hindsight, this is kinda morbid.]]
:This [[Target]]-exclusive two pack (or three pack, depending on [[Rack'n'Ruin|how you count]]) features a redecoed [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] and the ice-cream truck mode of Mudflap and Skids, which replaces most of the robot mode white plastic on the originals with a rusty brown, adds even more rusty paint applications than the earlier "Shanghai Showdown" version and omits the comic-sans "Made fresh for you" on the front wheel wells of the truck.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TargetSkids/skids.htm More information on High-Speed Spy Battle Skids at TFU.info]''

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[File:DOTM Cyberverse Skids toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Right out of that one second he was in the movie!]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''005'''
**''Japanese ID Number:''

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Legion Skids is a retool of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class Autobot Skids, retaining his Chevrolet Beat concept car mode from the previous movie compared to his brother Mudflap's updated Chevrolet Spark vehicle mode. However, Skids' packaging refers to his vehicle mode as a "Chevrolet Spark Concept Mode". The smaller hand on this figure has been remolded to accommodate weapons from other Cyberverse figures.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/LegSkids/skids.htm More information on Cyberverse Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:DOTM Deluxe Skids toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|''Screw'' being in disguise, he's getting rush hour traffic out of his way ''by any means''.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID Number:'' '''DA07'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Hand Blaster/Double-Barreled Cannon

: Part of the first wave of ''Dark of the Moon'' [[MechTech]] Deluxe-Class toys, Autobot Skids transforms from a black Chevrolet Spark with narrow green stripes into a stumpy robot with big feet. He is a smaller and less articulated, but more stable and <s>movie-accurate</s> comic-accurate figure, and comes with a Hand Blaster that transforms into a Double-Barreled Cannon when the scope is pulled. He features seven MechTech ports in total, with two ports on the roof in vehicle mode, one for each of his hands, one each on the underside and the sculpted panel on his right arm, one on the foldable panel on his left arm, and one port on his back to allow the weapon to be mounted over his head.

: His weapon was redecoed into the weapons of [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#SpecialistRatchet|Specialist Ratchet]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#StreetsideBotBrawl|Streetside Bot Brawl Bumblebee]]. It is also similar to the MechTech weapon of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#NitroBee|Nitro Bumblebee]], although that is an entirely new mold.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on ''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Skids at TFU.info]''

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====Human Alliance====
[[File:DOTM Human Alliance Skids Epps.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|How can Skids be racist? He's hanging out with [[Robert Epps|the only serious black guy in the entire trilogy]].]]
*'''Autobot Skids / Elita-1 / Tech Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Dark of the Moon'' Human Alliance Skids is a redeco of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toy in his new colors, and now comes with a figure of [[Robert Epps]] to drive him instead of Mikaela. The included Arcee toy was redecoed into [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-1]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/HASkids/skids.htm More information on ''Dark of the Moon'' Human Alliance Skids at TFU.info]''

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==Merchandise==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[File:ROTFtoy-SkidsRPM.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|I ran myself over!]]
*'''Mudflap vs Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2009)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08'''

: Number four in a series of eight [[Robot Powered Machines]] Mini-Vehicle versus packs, Skids is packaged against his twin, Mudflap. He's an untransformable Hot Wheels-like car, unless you count his robot mode being sculpted and painted onto the underside of him. On some, his name is printed backwards and upside down.

: This toy is also available with the Devastator Showdown track set.

*'''Devastator Showdown''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle Track Set, 2009)

: A Mini-Vehicle of Skids also comes with this [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]-themed race track set.

*'''Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2010)
**''Series:'' '''Combat Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

: An individual release of Battle Series Skids.

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===Robot Heroes===
[[File:RobotHeroes SkidsMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|"My head is bigger than your cannon!"]]
*'''Autobot Skids and Megatron''' (2009)

:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Skids is a [[super deformed]] figure with limited articulation in his neck and shoulders. He came in a two-pack with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RHSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' robot mode Skids at TFU.info]''

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[[File:rotf desertdevastation rh.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Give me your fac—oh wait, wrong article.]]
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2010)

:Both Skids and Mudflap are sculpted in their vehicle modes for this box-set that also includes [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and [[William Lennox]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RHVMSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' vehicle mode Skids at TFU.info]''

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[[File:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|[[B.O.T. (episode)|Pink smoke?]] Should probably get that looked at.]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2010)
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Skids in their combined ice cream truck mode, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] (vehicle mode). Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RHVMIceCreamSkidsMudflap/skidsmudflap.htm More information on ''Robots Heroes'' ice cream truck Skids and Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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===Speed Stars===
[[File:SpeedStars LightsSounds Skids.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|You shouldn't be able to moon someone in car mode, but Skids has ''found'' a way.]]
*'''Autobot Skids''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Lights & Sounds'''

:''[[Speed Stars]]'' Lights & Sounds Skids is a cute and round Chevy Beat with various playing sounds and flashing lights. Like the toys in the Robot Powered Machines line, it doesn't transform, but features a sculpted robot mode on its underside.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/SSLSSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Speed Stars'' Skids at TFU.info]''

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==Notes==
*The ice cream truck is apparently based on a heavily customized 1930s Chevrolet truck.{{fact|confirmation needed}} [[Ben Procter]] apparently lifted the color scheme and deco for his early concept design for the ice cream truck<ref name="procterrotf">[http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter's ROTF concept art at Concept Art World.]</ref> ''directly'' off a photo of an [[Australia]]n ice cream truck that had been added to the Wikipedia article for "ice cream van" in February 2006,<ref name="wikipediaice">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ice_Cream_Truck_Sydney_Australia_-_crop.png Photo of an Australian ice cream truck at Wikipedia, added in February 2006.]</ref> down to identical placement and design of the fonts and graphics. The details were later slightly tweaked for the final design that can be seen in the movie... but only very slightly so.
*One of the decals on the ice cream truck's side that was created specifically for the movie reads "[[File:Symbol decept reg.png|15px]] suck my popsicle." Classy. Too bad the toy does not. (Because, you know, for kids...)
**A "censored" version of the movie is rumored to exist with the aforementioned text edited out, with the somewhat nonsensical result of "[[File:Symbol decept reg.png|15px]]           popsicle". This version was supposedly shown in some theaters even though other theaters in the same market apparently got the uncensored version. The more likely explanation for this would be that different theaters simply used different lightings settings, which effectively rendered the words "suck my" (which were written in dark red on a black backdrop to begin with) invisible, with no actual intention of "censorship" behind it.
[[File:ROTFSmartCarTwinConcept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Skids and Mudflap would never get their Larry.]]
*The Twins' final alternate modes in the film, the Chevrolet Beat (Skids) and Chevrolet Trax (Mudflap), were designed by General Motors as small car concept vehicles. At one point in the film's pre-production, another small car, the [[Mercedes-Benz]] [[wikipedia:Smart (automobile)|Smart]], was evidently considered as an option for a film character; concept art of a "third twin" based on it appears in various sections of the ''Revenge'' DVD special features, always in close proximity to concept art of Skids and Mudflap. Whether it was meant to be a third character related to Skids and Mudflap or if it was supposed to be used in place of one of them is unknown. What '''is''' known is that [[Hasbro]] has had great difficultly in the past trying to get likeness licenses from German automakers, which is probably why the vehicle/character was dropped.
*In their combined ice cream truck mode, the Twins sport the [[license plate]] "KDM 814". A minor variant of this, "KDM 0814" with an extra "0", was later used for the life-sized Bumblebee prop on various displays from 2009 up until at least 2011. For the individual cars, two different sets of license plates were apparently used, either "Beat" and "Trax" referencing their car models or "Skids" and "Mudflap", with the latter two being featured more prominently in the movie (the "BEAT" plate can be seen briefly during the New York City scene, and it's ''possible'' the "TRAX" plate was used for the same scene, although the car's plate is offscreen during that scene). All four plates were auctioned off in October 2009.<ref name="licenseauct">[http://www.icollector.com/Autobots-Skids-and-Mudfap-s-license-plates-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633012 Mudflap and Skids license plates for auction] at icollector.com</ref> The auction claims that the plates referring to their car models were used in vehicle mode, while those identifying the two Autobots by name were used in robot mode... which is ''directly'' refuted by screencaps from the movie included with the auction, which show the robot name plates on the cars in vehicle mode. Also, the two ''real'' Chevrolet Beat and Trax cars the Twins scan already feature individualized license plates sporting their robot names. Huh.
*Skids' left hand has three fingers while his right has four.
*The Chevrolet Beat, Skids's upgraded [[alternate mode]], went into production in 2011 as the Chevrolet Spark.

*The Twins have been accused of being derogatory racial stereotypes of inner-city African-Americans. Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] claim to have followed [[Michael Bay]]'s lead with the characters, while Bay says voice actors [[Tom Kenny]] (Skids) and [[Reno Wilson]] (Mudflap) came up with their schtick on their own. Reportedly, Wilson (who is African-American himself) was sad to learn his way of speaking was apparently offensive to himself.<ref name="jive">[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html The Huffington Post's coverage of the furor over the Twins]</ref> Orci and Kurtzman said the twins' portrayal was not in their script, that they were disappointed in the characters and admitted that they could understand if others were offended by the characters.<ref>[http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/orci-and-kurtzman-respond-to-claims-of-racism-in-transformers-2.php Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman respond to claims of racism on ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Film School Rejects, June 24, 2009]</ref>

*The twins are less slangy in the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|comic adaptation]] and [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan comics]], which could either indicate it was a last-minute voice actor decision or [[Simon Furman]] just didn't want to try writing "street".

*In [[Tales of the Fallen issue 6|''Tales of the Fallen'' #6]], it's revealed that the Twins' processors were messed up by the Decepticon medic [[Flatline (ROTF)|Flatline]]. So... now they act the way they do in the film because they're ''brain-damaged''? This is not exactly ''helping''.






*Amusingly, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro's Battle Bio] for Skids lists his arch-enemy as... [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].

*Skids's name is only mentioned once on-screen (by Mudflap right before he loses his grip on Skids when Devastator is trying to suck them up).

* The Twins were originally supposed to return for ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Even though [[General Motors]] provided two Chevrolet Sparks to serve as their alternate modes<ref name="chevyspark">[http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html Left Lane News article on two Chevrolet Sparks spotted on the DOTM set], May 2010.</ref> which were still spotted on the set as late as October 2010,<ref name="dcparking">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/10/transformers-3-dc-parking-lot-gallery.html "Transformers 3 DC Parking Lot Gallery"], Transformers Live Action Movie Blog, October 2010.</ref> the two were mostly edited out of the final movie (their vehicle modes can barely be glimpsed in a brief shot). Michael Bay even went so far as to offer a $25,000 reward for anyone who would see the Twins "perform" in the movie.<ref name="reward">[http://collider.com/transformers-3-twins-skids-mudflap-michael-bay/91104/ Collider.com article on Michael Bay's "reward" for spotting Skids and Mudflap "perform" in DOTM], May 2011.</ref> In the novelization and the comic adaptation, Skids and Mudflap still appear.
*According to the RotF Deluxe class Skids and Mudflap toy bios, Skids is "more intelligent" (6>5)

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Lance

2015-02-11T02:05:20Z

Pzzone:

A '''lance''' is a type of hand-held weaponry. Long and pointed, it is used to pierce one's opponent. It can either be handheld, to be thrust up-close into the opposing combatant, or a ranged weapon, thrown to achieve similar results over long distances. Several Transformers have been equipped with both types of lances over the years.

When thrown, lances are sometimes known as '''javelins'''. Other variations on the weapon include '''spears''' and '''pikes'''.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:Raiderrumblejoust.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4]]
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] once joined a jousting tournament, with Rumble wielding a shield and lance, and Ramjet serving as his trusty steed. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}
* When the [[Quintesson]]s hooked [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] up to a device to turn his dreams into reality, one of the illusionary monsters conjured up was a large pink dragon which dwelt in a castle. [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] teamed up to slay it using a magic lance. {{storylink|Nightmare Planet}}

====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
* The Beastformer [[Elephan]] wields a lance with several additional spikes.

====''Wings Universe''====
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* Similar to his Animated counterpart, [[Sentinel Major]] wields a hard-light lance.
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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* ''The [[sonic lance]] was a Decepticon invention used to disrupt [[cerebro circuitry]].''
* ''One of the [[Louisiana bounty hunters]] encountered by [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] was garbed similarly to a medieval knight, and wielded a lance accordingly.'' {{storylink|Assassins}}
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===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
* One of the many configurations [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s weapon can take is the [[Striker Lance]]. He still wields this weapon when he undegoes his transformation into Galvatron.
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
* [[Elita One]] has been known to angrily throw a spear into monitor displays, to the amusement of Quintesson onlookers. {{Storylink|The Route of All Evil}}
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===Energon===
* [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]]'s Energon weaponry can be configured into the shape of a spear.
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
* [[J'organ lance]] are artifacts. [[Krakon]] had some in his possession.
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===Robotmasters===
* [[R-Blade]]'s arsenal includes "Sonic Lance" Missiles. It is unknown if the "lance" part of their name is purely figurative, or if R-Blade is known to throw them manually.
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===''TransTech''===
* [[Escargon]]'s Love-Love Lancer has some interesting properties.

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===Cybertron===
* The pole segment of [[Signal Lancer]]'s traffic light altmode becomes a lance for him to wield in robot mode.

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===Live-action film series continuity===
====Transformers (2007)====
* [[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] wields an enormous spear.
* [[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]], in one of his earlier bodies, possessed a spear of similar make to Skyblast's.
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], uses javelin to kill an Autobot in Optimus Prime's hologram

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===''Animated''===
[[File:SonicJavelin.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb]]
* To go along with the defensive capabilities of his [[Skyboom (Animated)|Skyboom]] shield, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] wields an energy lance for offensive purposes.
* [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] possesses [[Sonic Javelin]]s, a type of retractable throwing weapon.

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===Shattered Glass===
* [[Star Saber (SG)|Star Saber]] also wields a spear.

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===Aligned Continuity===
* The [[static lance]] is an energized weapon used to stun opponents.
* The [[Supernova Lance]] is one of many [[Arms Micron|Combo Weapons]] in the Autobots' arsenal.
* In order to hunt [[Predacon (Prime)|beasts]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] wields the [[Falcon Spear]].
* [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]]'s [[Tartarex Warp Sword]] is also known as the "Sharktooth Spear."
* [[Jayz]] transforms into a lance to be wielded by a larger Transformer.

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==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
[[File:RID Megatron toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Megatron''' (Ultra, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-001'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers

: The ''only'' new-mold bad guy from the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'' line, Megatron (or "Gigatron", as he was called in Japan) has six different configurations: robot, jet, bat, two-headed dragon, giant hand (''awesome''), and roadster. His hand mode has a spring-loaded "gripping" gimmick (''oh hell yeah''). He comes with a pair of pressure-launch missile launchers that can double as swords, or be combined to form a single naginata-like weapon.

: The Hasbro version of this mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Deathsaurus (Victory)#Timelines|Deathsaurus]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2001/Predacon/Megatron/megatron.htm More information on Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:RIDGalvatron.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Ultra, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-013'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers

: [[Redeco]]ed into a color scheme more traditionally associated with "dead" in Japan, "Devil Gigatron" featured four additional transformations and retained the weaponry from his first deco.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2001/Decepticon/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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===Energon===
[[File:Energon Skyblast toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Skyblast''' (Omnicon, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SC-07'''
**''Accessories:'' Two-part energon cannon, 2 energon jet boosters. "Autobot" energon chip

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' Energon Class toys, Skyblast transforms into a Cybertronic jet. He comes with multiple clear-plastic "energon" parts, which form an under-slung cannon and jet boosters in jet mode, and can combine to form an "energon spear" melee weapon which can have the blade removed to become a sniper rifle.

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===Robotmasters===
[[File:RM-toy RBlade.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''R-Blade''' (Autobot, 2004)
**''ID number:'' '''RM-05'''
**''Accessories'': "Sonic Lance" missile, "Flare Gun" rifle

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Cyberjet]] [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] mold, R-Blade transforms into the swing-wing Navalized Advanced Tactical Fighter variant of the Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor, with a deco clearly inspired by the original [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] toy. In both modes, he has a pressure-launch missile launcher (dubbed the "Gauntlet Frame"). He only came with a single "Sonic Lance" missile, unlike other versions of this sculpt, which came with multiple missiles.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/R-Blade/r-blade.htm More information on R-Blade at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2007)===
[[File:Mov2007-toy Skyblast.JPG|right|upright=1.67|thumb|right]]
*'''Skyblast''' (Scout, 2007)

: Part of the second assortment of Target-[[exclusive]] Scouts, Skyblast is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] mold, transforming into a Cybertronic starfighter. He comes with multiple accessories that can attach to his jet mode for rocket-boosters and an underslung cannon. In robot mode, these parts re-assemble to form a giant spear.

: This toy was repurposed as [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[Star Saber (SG)|Star Saber]]

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Skyblast/skyblast.htm More information on Skyblast at TFU.info]''
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[[File:Movie2007 AirRaid toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Air Raid''' (Scout, 2007)
**''Acccessories:'' Cannon, jet boosters (all combine to form a spear)

: Part of the third wave of [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] Scouts, Air Raid is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] mold, transforming into a Cybertronic starfighter. He comes with multiple accessories that can attach to his jet mode for rocket-boosters and an under-slung cannon. In robot mode, these parts re-assemble to form a giant spear, although if preference desires, you can leave them separated and have the spear handle as a hand-held rifle, with the head split in half and clipped to his wrists.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/TargetAirRaid/airraid.htm More info on Target Scout Air Raid at TFU.info]''

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===Animated===
[[File:Deluxeanimatedsentinel.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Sentinel Prime''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-28'''
**''Accessories:'' Lance, shield

: Sentinel Prime transforms into a metallic blue monster-truck snowplow, and is armed in robot mode with his trademark Skyboom shield and lance. Either item can fit in either of his hands, and the shield has a ring mount to allow the lance to attach to it for transporting on the back of the vehicle mode. Surprisingly for an otherwise pointy object, the lance is actually cast in hard plastic. The weapons are also painted blue rather than cast in translucent plastic, an unusual choice for modern "energy" weapons.

: In a surprising reversal from the norm, the TakaraTomy release uses softer, rubbery plastic on the lance rather than the harder plastic of the Hasbro release.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/SentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]''

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===Prime===
* The '''Supernova Lance'''' can be formed by combining the following toys:
**'''Arcee Blade''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''SP Cure'''
**'''Ratchet Spanner''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''AP Cure'''
**'''Wheeljack Kunai''' (Gacha Arms Micron, 2012)
***''Energon Crystal:'' '''HP Cure'''

===Prime===
[[File:Prime-toy JayzG.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Battle Shield Optimus''' (Multi-pack, [[August 12|8-12]] 2012)
** ''Energon crystal'': '''AP Positro'''

: This gold version of Jayz, dubbed '''Jayz G''', was made available ''before'' the normal version. Like all pack-in Arms Microns, he comes unassembled and unpainted on a set of runners. Once assembled (and given [[sticker]]s if you so choose), he transforms from a humanoid robot into a lance. He has numerous [[5mm post]]s and holes that allow him to combine with other Arms Microns to form any number of "Combo Weapons" and "Super Combo Weapons", though he is specifically designed to form the bottom of the [[Cosmotector]] shield with [[Sais]] and [[Pral]].

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1637.html Gold Jayz, Pral and Sais at Alfes's toy blog]''

[[File:Prime-toy Jayz.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Jayz''' (AMW Micron, [[August 25|8-25]] 2012)
**''ID number:'' '''AMW-09'''
** ''Energon crystal'': '''AP Positro'''

: The "normal" blue version of Jayz is an individually-sold [[Arms Micron]], coming in a baggie as part of the second wave of "AMW" releases.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1650.html#more Pral, Sais and Jayz at Alfes's toy blog]''

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====Beast Hunters====
[[File:PrimeBHtoy-SharkticonMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Megatron/Sharkticon Megatron''' (Voyager, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''02 / 006'''
**''Accessories'': Tartarex Warp Sword/Sharktooth Spear

:Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime:]] [[Beast Hunters]]'' Voyager Class toys, [[Megatron (WFC)#Beast Hunters|Megatron]] is an extensive [[retool]]/[[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Megatron (WFC)#Voyager|Megatron]]. He wields the "Tartarex Warp Sword", a fish-themed cannon that can convert into a sword-harpoon thing.

:The [[instructions]] refer to this weapon as the less cool-sounding "Sharktooth Spear". There also exists a [[packaging]] [[variant]] for this toy: Early shipments called the weapon the "Tartarex Warp Sword", whereas a later running change version changed the packaging to reflect the name given in the instructions.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/SharkticonMegatron/megatron.htm More information on the Tartarex Warp Sword (with Megatron) at TFU.info]''

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[[File:PrimeBeastHunterstoy-Wheeljack.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 004'''
**''Accessories'': Falcon Spear, disc

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime:]] [[Beast Hunters]]'' Deluxe Class toys, [[Wheeljack (Prime)#BHDeluxe|Wheeljack]] is a [[redeco]] and extensive [[retool]] of [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|"Robots in Disguise"]] [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Deluxe|Deluxe Class Wheeljack]], and comes with the "Falcon Spear", a large pole-arm with a spearhead that is sculpted to resemble a dragon's head, and can launch its disc via pressure launch.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/Wheeljack/wheeljack.htm More information on the Falcon Spear (with Wheeljack) at TFU.info]''

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===Cyberverse===
[[File:PrimeBHtoy-Cyberverse-OptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''3 / 001'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher & missile (combine to form Thunder Lance), [[Star Saber (Prima)#BHCyberverse|Star Saber]]

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 3|Series 3 ''Cyberverse'']] Commander Class toys, Optimus Prime is an all-new mold. He now transforms into a monstrous, flat-nosed truck with spiky fenders at the front and a cage compartment at the back, and comes with the Thunder Lance and Star Saber. Each of the weapons features two differently-placed 3mm posts, allowing them to be held by his hands, or mount onto two ports on the rear vehicle sides, as well as allowing the lance to additionally be used as a pressure-fired missile launcher.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CybCommOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on "Beast Hunters" Cyberverse Optimus Prime at TFU.info]''

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==Notes==
[[File:AHM 01 CoverA.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|right]]
*[[All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1]]'s cover shows [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] having impaled [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus]]'s head upon a pike. This didn't happen in the story proper though.
*Although all the variations of pole weaponry included in this article are normally categorized distinctly from one another, Transformers fiction and naming conventions widely use the terms interchangeably.
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