User talk:Radi0activsquid

2018-09-03T05:00:58Z

Radi0activsquid:

So far there is this one: https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/transformers-optimus-primal-prime-1-studio-9029021/

And next year they will be releasing their Megatron.

And how does someone edit their user page with this site? I've been looking and cant figure it out.

:The link is [[User:Radi0activsquid|here]], but since you're a new user, you won't be able to edit your user page for a few days. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:28, 3 September 2018 (EDT)

Thanks Cyberlink420. I'm a bit looking forward to figuring out how the formatting and editing here work so we can add those big, pricey statues to the database. I own the Primal statue and would be willing to upload a photo of it for the database.

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2018-09-03T03:54:44Z

Radi0activsquid:

User talk:Radi0activsquid

2018-09-03T03:37:33Z

Radi0activsquid: Created page with "So far there is this one: https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/transformers-optimus-primal-prime-1-studio-9029021/ And next year they will be releasing their Megatron."

So far there is this one: https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/transformers-optimus-primal-prime-1-studio-9029021/

And next year they will be releasing their Megatron.

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2018-09-03T03:35:29Z

Radi0activsquid:

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== IDW first appearances on character pages ==

Why are these being added? Are similar additions going to be made for other continuities? They seem pretty useless and silly to me.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:06, 18 June 2018 (EDT)
:[[#"First appearances" on IDW pages|Well this is awkward.]] -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 14:09, 18 June 2018 (EDT)
::That proposal was for making notes about first appearances on the pages of the fiction, not the characters. I have no opinion on that. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:29, 18 June 2018 (EDT)

Anyhow, M Sipher stated in the Allspark discussion thread that given the tendency of IDW continuity to show characters out of chronological sequence, it would be useful to list first real world appearances. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:37, 18 June 2018 (EDT)

:It's been brought up on Twitter as a problem with "nerd wikis" in general to value in-universe event order over real-world reading/experience order to the Nth degree, often to the detriment of not-already-hugely-invested readers. While we do compare favorably to most (take note that Wookiepeedia wedges licensed video game events directly into a character's main timeline, like, ''right in the middle of the movie story''), something as simple as finding a character's first appearance in real-world reading order shouldn't be a chore requiring digging and multi-link jumping. ''Generally'' any given chunk of Transformers media's diagetic and real-world chronologies have lined up pretty well and it hasn't been much of an issue, as most of the prequel/backfills are spinoff media and we split those into their own subsections. But IDW, particularly after "phase two" started, '''''really''''' bounces around its own timeline; the example given was that Grimlock's IDW writeup starts with a material published four years after his first appearance.
:This seems like a thing the larger IDW character sections need, a simple "start here". Honestly we should probably take a look at the IDW-as-a-publisher/continuity pages and see about making the real-world publishing list a bit more easily-found/readable (it's kind of a morass of text). It's unlikely we'll need this for most of the fiction sections of character pages, since most fictions are relatively straightforward. But IDW is an exception. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:39, 18 June 2018 (EDT)
:Seems like that would be better served with an Appearances section with all entries in chronological release order. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 05:29, 19 June 2018 (EDT)
::That could get excessive for some of the more popular characters. The simple "First Appearance" entry at the top of their IDW fiction section seems just fine to me. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:24, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
:::To me, just saying "their IDW first appearance was here" seems pretty pointless and useless if we're not going to tell the reader what comes after. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 19:54, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
::::I concur with MSipher etc. that this is useful and valid, given the achronal order of IDW's reading (I was rather startled while looking at the timeline last night to be reminded that events in ''Lost Light'' are only up to ~TAAO #9!) - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 22:06, 4 July 2018 (EDT)
:::::Still not sure what good telling me "His first issue was X" is if you don't then tell me "His second issue is Y" and so on. Also, why would it get excessive? Just a summary list, not necessarily linked out. Like this:
:::::Appearances
::::::First Title #7, 10
::::::Second Title #1-3
::::::First Title #13-25 --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:28, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
I see Wookieepedia was brought up as an example of a bad nerd wiki, but do you know what they do? [https://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker#Appearances Sensible appearance lists.] Make it a subsection (for IDW or whatever) and list in publishing order and you basically get what everybody wants. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:57, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Except "everybody" doesn't want comprehensive appearance lists. Some people do, but others ''don't'', and for some characters (like Optimus frex.) this would result in some ''serious'' bloat. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 03:11, 24 August 2018 (EDT)
::It gives you the "first appearance", which is what some people want. And how is "bloat" relevant here with a scrollbox like Wookieepedia? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 03:30, 24 August 2018 (EDT)

== YouTube template ==

I've noticed we've got a few hundred pages with different links to YouTube videos, and with more and more fiction being released via Hasbro's or other parties' YouTube channels, it might not hurt to have a template we can use to make the process easier and cleaner. I've got a [[User:Cyberlink420/sandbox|draft]] going on my sandbox; as it stands now, it'll be a basic "'Name of video' on YouTube", link, with options to add the channel name at the end or add your own text in place of the generated linktext, but I figured I'd get opinions first. Is this something people would use, and if so, should the format be changed at all? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:51, 10 July 2018 (EDT)

==Uglydolls page question==
Hey, I'm still a bit shaky on this wiki, but I found that Uglydolls did an official collab with Transformers for the 2018 SDCC this year, with uploaded pictures for proof (in my contributions). I was wondering how a page should be handled for these. Thanks in advance! --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] ([[User talk:ZootyCutie|talk]]) 16:25, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
: I would suggest making entries for each of the dolls on the Merchandise pages for [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise|Optimus]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/merchandise|Bumblebee]]. If you think it's warranted, perhaps make a company page for Uglydolls as well that links to those two entries. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:46, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
:: All right, thanks for the help! --[[User:ZootyCutie|ZootyCutie]] ([[User talk:ZootyCutie|talk]]) 19:05, 19 July 2018 (EDT)

== Transformers Armada [PS2] - Demo / Alpha / Unreleased Material ==

I've recently gone on a deep dive into the 2004 Armada PS2 game, primarily to get a copy of the complete soundtrack but also to see whether any unreleased material existed for the project. In my travels, I've come across several demo versions and an Alpha Version of the game that contains stuff like:

A bunch of unreleased music, An official instrumental of the Transformers Armada TV Theme, Voice Clips not used in the final game, The in-house audio-cues done before recording dialogue with the voice actors, Material from Star Wars Episode II and The Transformers: The Movie (1986), Early video material and artwork, as well as string files giving an earlier glimpse of what could have been.

And this is what I've found and been able to access, record and convert so far! I'm slowly dumping everything onto Youtube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO5pmQ0j-aD0Yctrjk_KFhw], but I'd have no idea how to add this info to the Wiki, as it's all pretty disparate, and the game page as it stands now is pretty simple in it's construction.

I'd love to hear your thoughts as to how and structure this information, as well as your thoughts on the actual material.

Cheers!

== Listing product names with Japanese words ==

Currently, both [[Unicron of Light]] toys are listed on that page with a direct transliteration of the Japanese words in the item name, but [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#MP29Plus|MP-29+ Defense Officer Shockwave]] is listed on his page by a translation of the Japanese words. Er, we should have some kind of consistency in this, no? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:54, 16 August 2018 (EDT)
:Don't the Masterpiece toys always have Latin text on them? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:48, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

== Underlining continuity headers ==

Of late, Sipher has tested underlining major continuity headers in fiction sections, as can be seen on "[[Toaster]]" and "[[Cybertronian colonies]]". How does everyone feel about utilizing this feature on pages? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:41, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
:Oppose.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 22:03, 18 August 2018 (EDT)
:I like it. It makes it way easier to sort through the information being presented; the various headers can get pretty overwhelming, and this helps a lot. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 00:52, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
:Anything with multiple <nowiki>===</nowiki> and <nowiki>====</nowiki> level sub-headers becomes a bog-down where the text size and bolding between the two is so minimally different that telling where one <nowiki>===</nowiki> level header ends and the next one begins becomes difficult. Underlining at the <nowiki>===</nowiki> level is a clear delineation; most anything at that header is going to be a "start-over" point, and the underline indication that the above continuity string (or jumble) is done and what follows, well, doesn't follow, but being ONLY under the text shows "we ain't done with the major <nowiki>==</nowiki> level section yet". Honestly, I'm mulling giving any text under a <nowiki>====</nowiki> or higher (we do get up to five sometimes) header an indent like we do with the toy entries for further visual shorthand of what is a sub-header of what. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 05:18, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
:Seriously opposed to this, at least the underlining. Frankly it makes the page look amateurish and my initial reaction was that something had ''broken''. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 05:52, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
::I oppose. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 09:08, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
:I, for one, like the look of this. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 18:39, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
I have to say, when the two sides to this are "it makes the information on pages clearer and easier to read" and "it is a slight bother to me and I find it vaguely aesthetically displeasing", I find the former to be a lot more compelling than the latter. Like... Cybertronian colonies reads SO much better with those underlines in place, that's infinitely more important than whatever sense of aesthetics they may offend. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:07, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
:Yeah, well that isn't just it, it's also takes much work to fix it on most of the pages on the wiki. While that wouldn't stop us normally, I see it as a "if it ain't broke, dont fix it." However, I can see Sipher's point, I personally don't feel its necessary, but that's just me. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 14:12, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
::1. I’m pretty sure if we choose to go through with this, the underlines will be added to the site’s style sheet, thus changing all the h3 headers on every page all at once. (admins correct me if I’m wrong here). 2. I’m not really sure how to tackle the idea of improved readability being “not necessary”. Like, wearing shoes while you walk across a gravel road isn’t strictly “necessary”, but it’s a massive improvement. Just because it’s not of any noticable benefit to you in particular doesn’t mean it’s of use to anyone. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:55, 19 August 2018 (EDT)
:::Yes, this would be done via style sheet, not manually. Well, indenting (if used) would be manual but that's also far more case-by-case and less common anyway. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:43, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Subheaders Experimenting with every section having SOME text.

::::The indents are something I think is good. The underlines are not. Regarding a few lines up...please don't put words in my virtual mouth. It is not "a slight bother and vaguely aesthetically displeasing". It's "horrible looking and makes TFWiki look 1. broken or 2. like a Wikia". - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 05:55, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
:::::Would it help if the underline looked more like the horizontal bar under the level 2 headers? <span style="border-bottom: 1px solid #888888; font-size: 132%; font-weight: bold">Like this for instance</span>. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 06:10, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
::::::That ''is'' a bit better, but still seems "off" in general to me - part of the problem I think is that underlined stuff looks like a hyperlink. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 06:24, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
:::::::I could support such a horizontal bar. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:15, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

== "Preferred" Airdate ==

Just to establish a consensus/precedent for cases like the recent Cyberverse opener: If an episode is ''officially'' released via a streaming service or storefront like iTunes or the CN app ahead of its TV premiere, which of the two dates should take preference for the "airdate" field? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:43, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
:Just put both in. For RID, we put both the earlier Candian release and American release. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 19:50, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

== Toyline sub-headers for ease of use ==

[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive65#Multiple co-brandings in headings|I have brought this up before]], and I will again: scores of people think of ''Generations''-branded toys by their subline name first instead of "Generations". Ergo, is it not the point of a wiki to have a navigation style that directs people in such a utilitarian fashion? Consider [[Blackout (Movie)#Generations|''Studio Series'' Blackout]] or [[Crowbar#Generations|''Studio Series'' Crowbar]]. I can't think of any casual fan who would look at the page and expect the table of contents header "Generations" to be the one that leads them to the ''Studio Series'' figure. Should we not do something about this? Just today a non-frequent user pointed out this problem and cited the hypothetical parallel of Wikipedia eliminating "bird" and "mammal" in favor of the supercategory "amniote". [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:30, 31 August 2018 (EDT)

== Prime 1 Studio Statues ==

I thought the large official statues that are being created by studios like Prime 1 and Imaginarium Art should be added to the wiki so I created an account and am trying to do so but all this wiki code is confusing me. Anyone know enough about the coding to add the statues? I already added a placeholder for Optimus Primal's Prime 1 statue. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars_(merchandise)#Statues -- [[User:Radi0activsquid|Radi0activsquid]] ([[User talk:Radi0activsquid|talk]]) 22:25, 02 September 2018 (CST)

Beast Wars (merchandise)

2018-09-03T02:49:25Z

Radi0activsquid: /* Statues */

{{Nav-BW}}
'''''Beast Wars: Transformers''''' was marketed as a wide array of miscellaneous merchandise in addition to various story-telling media and action figures. Listed here are all things associated with the ''Beast Wars'' franchise that do not fit in a broad enough category to warrant a separate page.

==Activity Books==
*[[Beast Wars Pt.1: Trace & Colour]]
*[[Beast Wars Pt.2: Colouring Book]]
*[[Beast Wars Pt.3: Paint with Water]]
*[[Beast Wars Pt.4: Sticker Fun]]
*[[Beast Wars Pt.5: Activity Pad]]
*[[Beast Wars Activity Pack]] (includes 6 crayons, coloring book and puzzle book)

==Clothing==
*[[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Merchandise|Cheetor Sweatshirt]]
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Merchandise|Optimus Primal Sneakers]]
*[[Optimus Primal Winter Boots]]

==Collectibles==
*[[Beast Wars Trading Cards]]

==Cutlery and Dishes==
*[[Beast Wars Glass]]

==Handheld Activities and Games==
*[[Beast Wars Bagatelle Game]]
*[[Beast Wars Slot Machines]]
*[[Beast Wars Camera]]
*[[Beast Wars Yo-Yo]]
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Merchandise|Optimus Primal Slide Puzzle]]

==Movie Coins==
*[[Rattrap (BW)#Merchandise|Rattrap Movie Coin]]
*[[Rhinox (BW)#Merchandise|Rhinox Movie Coin]]
*[[Scorponok (BW)#Merchandise|Scorponok Movie Coin]]

==School Supplies==
*[[Beast Wars Backpack]]
*[[Beast Wars Pencil board]]

==Tabletop Activities and Games==
*[[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|Mutating Card Game]]
*[[Beast Wars Transformers Jigsaw Puzzle]]

==Statues==
*[[Rhinox (BW)#Merchandise|"Hard Hero" Rhinox Statue]]
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Merchandise|"Metal Monument" Optimus Primal Statue]]
*[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Merchandise|"Metal Monument" Megatron Statue]]
*[["Prime 1 Studio" Optimus Primal Statue]]

==Watches and Clocks==
*[[Beast Wars Watches]]

==Miscellaneous==
*[[Beast Wars Plasticized Place-mat]]
*[[Make The Change|Beast Wars/Animorphs "Made the Change" certificate]]
*[[Beast Wars Passport]]
*[[Beast Wars Slide Set]]
*[[Beast Wars Window Stickers]]

{{toystub}}

==External links==
*[http://www.tfmuseum.com Extensive collection of various Transformers Merchandise at tfmuseum.com]

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