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Talk:Moon (BW)

2016-05-05T03:22:16Z

Railbomb:

:''Since Moon hails from Gaia's past and Gaia is a future version of Earth it seems likely that he was of human construction.''
I don't see anything wrong with this statement. It's a logical, important inferrence based on the evidence presented. What is ''un''true about this statement? It says he is ''likely'' of human construction, because it ''is''. I mean, who else from future Earth will build him? Sentient cockroaches which took over after we all died? That's an even bigger assumption than the human angle. That it's probable, given the evidence presented, that he was built by humans is an important thing to say. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:The fact that it's a "possibility" leaves a bad taste in my mouth; I'm of the opinion that we should be sticking to what the fiction says and nothing more. Putting up possibilities implies that they have some sort of credence beyond fan assumption, and there's no clear line as to what possibilities are acceptable and what aren't. In this case, one could also claim the possibility of Moon being built by Artemis, and thus would have to put this possibility in the article, too. I'd prefer to just avoid that altogether. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 09:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

::: Well the article begins with "Moon is a relic from the past of the planet Gaia." So he's a robot from Earth who's not of Cybertronian origin (also in there). *Very* likely built by humans then. I think the line (and others like it) is fine as long as it mentions that it's "likely" not definate.

:::As for how the line is drawn between "likely" and too-out-there speculation? How about with common sense. I hate it when institutions make things doubly difficult and convoluted by catering to the lowest common denominator. Most of use here are smart people, if something is TOO speculative we'll feel it and take it out. If it's boarderline we'll debate it and come to a concensus. No need to get draconian about any little helpful inference in the fear that it'll lead to fannon leaking in. We've got a better handle on things than that I think. -ZacWilliam (who keeps forgetting to log in). :)
::::"Catering to the lowest common denominator"? You're the one arguing to keep this in, as readers are somehow incapable of coming to that conclusion without it spelled out for them. Present the canon and let them come to their own conclusions without us giving credence to our own opinions. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 11:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I agree. It's "possible" that Moon was built by Transformers on Earth, isn't it? That whole Transformers: The Movie thing? Autobots and humans living side-by-side? And then Unicron blew up, and then Galvatron and Magmatron searched for Angolmois. Isn't it ''more'' likely that Transformers on Earth built Moon than humans? Either way, it's speculation that lends undue credibility to a contested theory. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 13:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, considering he's "not of Cybertronian origin," I would say definitely no. So what are we down to? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::If the assumption is so obvious, then why put it in the article? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Well, the article at present doesn't say that Gaia is future-Earth. The Trivia item Interrobang removed (seen above) removed a crucial piece of the puzzle. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== manga/comic ==

shouldn't there be a part in this article mentioning his role in the comic,,,,, it was almost exactly the same {{unsigned|66.203.191.100}}
:Yes, it should, but it should also be written in-universe like all our other fiction sections. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:45, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

== Pictures of this toy on a Japanese blog ==

[http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/yagyujaguar10/28079766.html This Japanese blog] has a lot of good shots of this toy. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]]
:The coloring of the toy in those pictures (and the one on the page for that matter) seems to be off. It seems they were digitally edited or put in certain light conditions to look closer to his coloration in the show. In other pictures you can see that the plastic is not all one color as he has a lot of yellow parts on his limbs. --[[User:Railbomb|Railbomb]] ([[User talk:Railbomb|talk]]) 20:38, 2 May 2016 (EDT)
::What? I have the figure in hand and every part of it that's yellow in those pics is yellow on my figure and in all other pics there are of the figure. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 21:54, 2 May 2016 (EDT)
::: Compared to Pictures [http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/09/r_moon040.jpg here] and [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/toys/images/136855-1/moon20.jpg here] there is a much more aparent difference in plastic colors than in the picture currently being used. --[[User:Railbomb|Railbomb]] ([[User talk:Railbomb|talk]]) 23:22, 4 May 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Moon (BW)

2016-05-03T00:38:53Z

Railbomb:

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2015-03-24T00:47:42Z

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Talk:Shockwave (G1)/toys

2015-03-24T00:44:25Z

Railbomb: Takara Shockwave differences

== H.I.S.S. tank accessories ==

Okay, so what exactly does this thing come with? An anon just changed this page to state that the cassettes represent [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Sundor]]; it had previously listed/the [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave toy page]] lists [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]], Laserbeak and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. None of the cassettes have this mentioned on their pages at all. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:25, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
: The previous list was correct. They're not listed on their pages because for the longest time, Derik had decided they were crazy obscure guys he made up, and the name reveal came fairly late. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
:Although the press releases say Ravage, Laserbeak and Ratbat, the [http://www.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/190/r_shockwave-hiss-tank-050.jpg actual toys] don't match up to that at all, colour-wise... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 11:22, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
::I can see where the anon was coming from, as the pictures of the packaging at seibertron.com show all of the cassettes as having Laserbeaks's panel lines. Where were the identities revealed? In the paperwork of the toy? In an interview or a press release? Or what?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:39, 3 October 2012 (EDT)
:::''G.I. JOE H.I.S.S. TANK VEHICLE WITH SHOCKWAVE DECO AND 3.75" DESTRO & B.A.T. SPECIAL EDITION PACK''

:::''(Approximate Retail Price: $59.99 each; Ages: 4 & up; Available through HasbroToyShop.com, Booth #3329 at San Diego Comic-Con)''

:::''After the extreme popularity of last year’s G.I. JOE and TRANSFORMERS crossover San Diego Comic-Con special edition, Hasbro has done it again! In 2012, the iconic G.I. JOE vehicle, the H.I.S.S. TANK, will get a DECEPTICON SHOCKWAVE make-over, including a G1 SHOCKWAVE blaster attachment. The set comes with a 3.75-inch DESTRO action figure with special edition DECEPTICON deco, a 3.75-inch COBRA B.A.T. figure with special edition CONSTUCTICON deco. The set also comes with several ENERGON cubes on a cart, a briefcase full of money, and a small boom box with 3 cassette tapes- better known to TRANSFORMERS fans as the classic alt-mode of DECEPTICON spy SOUNDWAVE along with RATBAT, LASERBEAK, and RAVAGE. Yo, Joe AND Roll Out!''--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:52, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

== Takara Shockwave trigger? ==

I've heard from a friend that owns the Takara Shockwave that it uses the different, less inconvenient-looking trigger. Sadly I lack a Hasbro one to compare. Does anyone know if this is true and should we make note of it? [[User:Railbomb|Railbomb]] ([[User talk:Railbomb|talk]]) 20:44, 23 March 2015 (EDT)