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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Raininshadows&amp;diff=1110998</id>
		<title>User:Raininshadows</title>
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		<updated>2016-07-17T17:07:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hi! I&#039;m Rain. I mostly just browse, but I&#039;m a fan of some of the less popular parts of the franchise, so sometimes I&#039;ll end up writing up something because it doesn&#039;t have a page/section yet. I also do occasional minor edits, mostly markup fixes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gone until August 13.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=The_More_Things_Stay_the_Same&amp;diff=1099011</id>
		<title>The More Things Stay the Same</title>
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		<updated>2016-06-06T05:11:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Policy appears to be that it can go on the wiki when it airs in the US. Edited &amp;quot;coming soon&amp;quot; date to reflect this.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 91&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=The More Things Change...&lt;br /&gt;
|next=&lt;br /&gt;
|image=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;The More Things Stay the Same&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[June 3]], [[2016]] (UK)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[July 9]], [[2016]] (US)&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Top Draw Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=&lt;br /&gt;
|director=&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Bots&#039; Mainland Training Center is in danger of being discovered and, to make matters worse, the Rescue Team is trapped inside with a glitching hologram.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoon|when=July 9}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Barney&amp;diff=1097490</id>
		<title>Barney</title>
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		<updated>2016-05-28T22:31:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Adding Ghost in the Machine details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Barney is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon portion]] of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:HauntingGriffinRock Barney.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Jack Carter, he isn&#039;t.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Deputy Barney&#039;&#039;&#039; is an officer of the law on [[Griffin Rock]]. He&#039;s not very bright, and looks after things at the town jail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Jeff Glen Bennett]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Barney was tasked with guarding [[Myles]] and [[Evan (RB)|Evan]]. At some point Myles talked Barney into letting him check his emails. Barney later wondered why the relentlessly pacing Myles and Evan weren&#039;t eating any of the meals he served them and consulted [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] by phone. Burns eventually visited the jail himself, and discovered that the two criminals had escaped, using Barney&#039;s computer to hack into the town&#039;s computer system and create holograms of themselves. The mystery explained, Barney asked if he could have their dinners. {{storylink|The Haunting of Griffin Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Barney was surprised when Evan and Myles were discovered locked in the bank vault, courtesy of a [[Frankie Greene|mysterious superhero]], and notified [[Cody Burns|Cody]] that the pair had been caught and locked up. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Express}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]]&#039;s capture, Barney was tasked with guarding him. Morocco managed to escape, but was captured and slapped in a higher-security cell. Barney was given instructions not to give Morocco anything without running it past Chief first, but ended up supplying Morocco with an ant farm, radio and desk fan. He later brought in a meal for Morocco, only to find the scientist in the process of escaping once again. {{storylink|Bugs in the System}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Barney gave Cody a pocket watch from the lost and found, unaware of the device&#039;s strange properties. {{storylink|Time After Time}} He and the rest of town had to work to keep the island in the air as they flew it from the [[Arctic]] back to [[Maine]]. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When Chief was intending to retire, his first choice was to promote Barney, however watching Barney give [[Mister Pettypaws]] a ticket for jaywalking had him thinking twice. {{storylink|New Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|June 5, 2016}}&lt;br /&gt;
He was caught in [[Quickshadow]]&#039;s nets when Myles fired them remotely, intending to hit [[Blades (RB)|Blades]]. He appeared to be trying to ticket Mister Pettypaws again at the time.  {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Barney is a homage to Barney Fife from &#039;&#039;[[w:The Andy Griffith Show|The Andy Griffith Show]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Law enforcement]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Evan_(RB)&amp;diff=1097458</id>
		<title>Evan (RB)</title>
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		<updated>2016-05-28T21:51:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Adding Ghost in the Machine details. Identical to the edit on Myles&amp;#039;s page.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Evan}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Evan is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon portion]] of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SmallBlessings Evan.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Evan&#039;&#039;&#039;, along with his brother [[Myles]], are [[Griffin Rock]]&#039;s criminal element. Evan lacks the power of speech and communicates through grunts. He and brother have made a career of stealing from others.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Robbie Daymond]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Myles and Evan failed to steal from an ATM, but after seeing [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] demonstrate the [[Minimizer]] at the [[Hall of Inspiration]], they got the idea to steal it to make their thieving easier. They broke in to the hall that night and Evan quickly found the Minimizer. His brother subsequently used it on the [[Rescue Bot]]s, but neither of them kept an eye on the rear entrance, and they were both grabbed by [[Chase (RB)|Chase]]. As Evan couldn&#039;t talk and Myles refused to, the duo were stuck in a jail cell. {{storylink|Small Blessings}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Myles later engineered their escape using [[hologram]]s. The pair used the town&#039;s holographic system to produce a plague of &amp;quot;ghosts&amp;quot;, enabling them to scare people away from buildings so they could then go in and steal things. They managed to clean out the bank vault and the till of a restaurant before [[Cody Burns|Cody]], [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]] and the Doc worked out was going on. Using more holograms, the Rescue Bots caught the pair in the act of robbing a jewelery store. {{storylink|The Haunting of Griffin Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Evan and Myles stole a piece of equipment from a shipment bound for [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]]&#039;s lab, easily avoiding Chase and Chief Burns by dumping [[oil]] on the road. Aiming to steal the rest of the [[stasis machine]], they attempted to break into the laboratory, only to be seen off by [[Trex]] and an adult [[Cody Burns]]. The pair attempted to make a run for the [[Griffin Rock ferry|ferry]] so they could reach the safety of the mainland, however after a chase through the docks, they were captured in a crate and airlifted to jail. {{storylink|One for the Ages}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The criminal pair came up with a new plan to create a [[Tech Wrecker]], and to this end they stole some [[mechanite]] from the [[Griffin Rock natural history museum|museum]], evading the authorities with the help of a hacked computer system. During their theft of [[Huxley Prescott]]&#039;s satellite dish, they also ganked [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] and were delighted to find that the rescue robot appeared to be under their control. With Chase&#039;s help, they stole [[floatium]] from the laboratory, and used their Tech Wrecker to disable technology across town. Their subsequent crime spree was brought to an end by the Burns family on scooters, and they were once again locked up. {{storylink|Bots and Robbers}} While trying to break into the bank vault, Evan and Myles were phased through the door by a mysterious superhero. Trapped, they were apprehended and locked up the next morning by Deputy Barney. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Express}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During preparations for [[Bot Appreciation Week]], the pair infiltrated the laboratory and interfered with the 3D printer that was creating souvenir Rescue Bots for the celebration. The next day, they make the souvenirs steal from the townsfolk and break into the bank, taking advantage of the Burns family&#039;s absence from the island. Unfortunately for them, the Burns family returned to find the chaos and managed to arrest the pair, despite Evan&#039;s attempt at getaway driving. {{storylink|All Bots Great and Small}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Evan and Myles got themselves hired as assistants to [[Maura the Magnificent]] so that when Maura visited Griffin Rock to pick up some invisibility cloaks which Doc Greene had created for her act, the pair could steal the cloaks and use them to steal from the townsfolk. Unfortunately for them, Chase suspected something was up with Maura&#039;s assistant, and the rescue team apprehended the pair as they robbed the bank. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|June 5, 2016}}&lt;br /&gt;
Evan and Myles broke out of jail and tried to steal [[Quickshadow]], first by simply dropping a shipping container on her, then by attaching a remote control device to her undercarriage and forcing her to drive off the pier and into the ocean. While both of these attempts were unsuccessful, they managed to get a video of Quickshadow acting in a distinctly un-robotic way during the second one, and threatened to upload it to the Internet if she didn&#039;t turn herself over to them within an hour. Quickshadow pretended to surrender to them, but revealed that they&#039;d been foiled by the residents of Griffin Rock putting together a blatantly fake &amp;quot;sequel&amp;quot; to their video. They were returned to the mainland and to prison. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Myles&amp;diff=1097457</id>
		<title>Myles</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Myles&amp;diff=1097457"/>
		<updated>2016-05-28T21:50:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Adding Ghost in the Machine details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Myles is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon portion]] of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:SmallBlessings Myles.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Myles&#039;&#039;&#039; and his brother [[Evan (RB)|Evan]] are [[Griffin Rock]]&#039;s resident troublemakers. The pair have made a career out of stealing from others, and as a hi-tech town requires hi-tech thieves, Myles is adept at hacking the town&#039;s computer systems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Robbie Daymond]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Myles and Evan failed to steal from an ATM, but after seeing [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] demonstrate the [[Minimizer]] at the [[Hall of Inspiration]], they got the idea to steal it to make their thieving easier. They broke in to the hall that night, and when the Burns family arrived with their [[Rescue Bot]]s, Myles used the Minimizer to shrink [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], [[Boulder]] and [[Blades (RB)|Blades]]. Unfortunately for them, the pair failed to keep an eye on the rear entrance, and were both grabbed by [[Chase (RB)|Chase]]. Refusing to explain what had happened to the Bots, the duo were stuck in a jail cell. {{storylink|Small Blessings}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Myles tricked [[Barney|Deputy Barney]] into letting him use a computer, and accessed the town&#039;s [[hologram]] systems. He was able to create holograms of himself and Evan, facilitating their escape. The pair later used the holographic system to produce a plague of &amp;quot;ghosts&amp;quot;, enabling them to scare people away from buildings so they could then go in and steal things. They managed to clean out the bank vault and the till of a restaurant before [[Cody Burns|Cody]], [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]] and the Doc worked out was going on. Using more holograms, the Rescue Bots caught the pair in the act of robbing a jewelery store. {{storylink|The Haunting of Griffin Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Evan and Myles stole a piece of equipment from a shipment bound for [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]]&#039;s lab, easily avoiding Chase and Chief Burns by dumping [[oil]] on the road. Aiming to steal the rest of the [[stasis machine]], they attempted to break into the laboratory, only to be seen off by [[Trex]] and an adult [[Cody Burns]]. The pair attempted to make a run for the [[Griffin Rock ferry|ferry]] so they could reach the safety of the mainland, however after a chase through the docks, they were captured in a crate and airlifted to jail. {{storylink|One for the Ages}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The criminal pair came up with a new plan to create a [[Tech Wrecker]], and to this end they stole some [[mechanite]] from the [[Griffin Rock natural history museum|museum]], evading the authorities with the help of a hacked computer system. During their theft of [[Huxley Prescott]]&#039;s satellite dish, they also ganked [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] and were delighted to find that the rescue robot appeared to be under their control. With Chase&#039;s help, they stole [[floatium]] from the laboratory, and used their Tech Wrecker to disable technology across town. Their subsequent crime spree was brought to an end by the Burns family on scooters, and they were once again locked up. {{storylink|Bots and Robbers}} While trying to break into the bank vault, Evan and Myles were phased through the door by a mysterious superhero. Trapped, they were apprehended and locked up the next morning by Deputy Barney. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Express}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During preparations for [[Bot Appreciation Week]], the pair infiltrated the laboratory and interfered with the 3D printer that was creating souvenir Rescue Bots for the celebration. Myles was able to use a remote control the following day to take control of the souvenirs, making them steal from the townsfolk and break into the bank, taking advantage of the Burns family&#039;s absence from the island. Unfortunately for them, the Burns family returned to find the chaos and managed to arrest the pair. {{storylink|All Bots Great and Small}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Myles and Evan got themselves hired as assistants to [[Maura the Magnificent]] so that when Maura visited Griffin Rock to pick up some invisibility cloaks which Doc Greene had created for her act, the pair could steal the cloaks and use them to steal from the townsfolk. Unfortunately for them, Chase suspected something was up with Maura&#039;s assistant, and the rescue team apprehended the pair as they robbed the bank. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|June 5, 2016}}&lt;br /&gt;
Evan and Myles broke out of jail and tried to steal [[Quickshadow]], first by simply dropping a shipping container on her, then by attaching a remote control device to her undercarriage and forcing her to drive off the pier and into the ocean. While both of these attempts were unsuccessful, they managed to get a video of Quickshadow acting in a distinctly un-robotic way during the second one, and threatened to upload it to the Internet if she didn&#039;t turn herself over to them within an hour. Quickshadow pretended to surrender to them, but revealed that they&#039;d been foiled by the residents of Griffin Rock putting together a blatantly fake &amp;quot;sequel&amp;quot; to their video. They were returned to the mainland and to prison. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Maven_Danger&amp;diff=1097450</id>
		<title>Maven Danger</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Maven_Danger&amp;diff=1097450"/>
		<updated>2016-05-28T21:27:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoiler tag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Maven Danger is a fictional [[human]] from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:RBPlusOne Maven Danger.jpg|thumb|right|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Maven Danger&#039;&#039;&#039; is a secret agent and the main character in a series of action films. Films he has featured in include &#039;&#039;Live Twice Tomorrrow&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;The Spy with the Golden Diamond&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] arranged for [[Quickshadow]] to [[scanning|scan]] the Austley Benton which Maven Danger drove in the movies. [[Kade Burns]] later recognized the vehicle, and assumed she had taken part in the filming of the movies. Quickshadow&#039;s alternate mode also incorporated some of the gadgets equipped on the movie vehicle, and she later used the oil slick mechanism to deliver the compound to break down [[Phodolite]]. {{storylink|Plus One (RB)|Plus One}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Mr Danger is a parody of [[w:James Bond|James Bond]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Earth culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1097441</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1097441"/>
		<updated>2016-05-28T19:55:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Updating RB recent episodes.&lt;/p&gt;
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default [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/imagemap&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Cartoon]]: &amp;quot;[[Decepticon Island (Part 1)]]&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Decepticon Island (Part 2)]]&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (Signature Publishing)|Signature Publishing comic]]: [[Signature Robots in Disguise issue 5|Issue #5]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (books)|Book]]: &#039;&#039;[[Autobot World Tour]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Vanishing Returns]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;border-left:1px solid #aaa; border-bottom:1px solid #aaa;&amp;quot; align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;50%&amp;quot;|[[File:IDWTheTransformers 2014 logo.png|175px|link=IDW Generation 1 continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #53: [[All Hail Optimus Part 4: It&#039;s Beginning To And Back Again|It&#039;s Beginning To And Back Again]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|MtMtE]]&#039;&#039; #53: [[The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers|Sins of the Wreckers]]&#039;&#039; [[Sins of the Wreckers issue 4|#4]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Of Masters and Mayhem]]&#039;&#039;: [[Insight]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[The Truth We Make]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Life Finds a Way]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[The Toxic Transformer]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Foundation and Wreckage Part 1: Deadly Aim|Deadly Aim]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;[[Micro-Aggressions]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe issue 12|Issue #12]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;[[Category: Main Page templates]]&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ghost_in_the_Machine_(RB)&amp;diff=1097440</id>
		<title>Ghost in the Machine (RB)</title>
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		<updated>2016-05-28T19:39:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Episode synopsis.&lt;/p&gt;
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|airdate=[[May 28]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;As Griffin Rock celebrates its version of Halloween, Evan and Myles car-jack Quickshadow and discover the Bots&#039; secret.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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The rescue team is preparing to celebrate &amp;quot;Earlyween&amp;quot;, a Halloween-like celebration set at a warmer time of the year so that it&#039;s possible to see the kids&#039; costumes, when [[Quickshadow]] calls in to report that two humans are trying to steal her - apparently [[Evan (RB)|Evan]] and [[Myles]] have escaped from jail. Before the team arrives, Quickshadow manages to break herself free using her spy movie gadgets; Evan and Myles run a thermal scan as she&#039;s escaping, discover that there&#039;s nobody inside, and conclude that she&#039;s a self-driving car with a really impressive security system. Before they can get any further, the rescue team shows up, and they&#039;re forced to flee the scene. Quickshadow got a picture of Evan and Myles, and the rescue team recognize them immediately when she shows them the picture. [[Kade Burns|Kade]] comments that they probably thought she was the car from the [[Maven Danger]] movies and worth millions, which she&#039;s somewhat offended by. [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] asks why she&#039;s come over, and [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] explains that he asked her to come help with Earlyween security. Heatwave suggests guarding Quickshadow until Evan and Myles are captured.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later that day, [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] is trying to decide on a costume when Cody arrives to tell everyone about his history class, in which his teacher let them listen to &amp;quot;Crustaceans from the Cosmos&amp;quot;, a radio show which apparently freaked everyone out when it originally aired 70 years ago. The team leaves to head downtown to hand out candy, and Cody hitches a ride in Quickshadow. Evan and Myles manage to sneak a remote control device onto her as she passes over a manhole, and promptly take control of her to steer her towards the piers. The rescue team follow her, with [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] leading; Myles takes great enjoyment in being a really incredibly terrible driver, which keeps the team from catching up with her. He also has use of all the spy gadgets, including net launchers and oil slicks. &lt;br /&gt;
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The team doesn&#039;t manage to keep Quickshadow from making it into the water, and Myles forces her into her aquatic transformation and sails out. Every member of the team except for Chase and [[Graham Burns|Graham]] head out into the ocean; Chase and Graham, left with nothing else to do, go to dispense candy. [[Cody Burns|Cody]] concludes that there must be something physically attached to her. [[Boulder]], being carried by Blades, grabs Quickshadow; Cody manages to open a door and jump into Heatwave, and Quickshadow tells Boulder to drop her over a rock. She transforms in midair, finds the device, and lands in a way that scrapes it off. Evan and Myles manage to get video of her talking afterwards. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blades is all ready to go to the party when Cody notices an out-of-place pumpkin, which promptly starts showing a transmission from Evan and Myles. They have video proof that the Cybertronians are real, and are threatening to upload it to the Internet unless the rescue team hands over Quickshadow within an hour. Boulder suggests that they just publicly announce that they&#039;re aliens; when the others object to this, he comes up with the idea of making an obviously fake video which will discredit Evan and Myles. The citizens are more than willing to help, viewing it as a nice Earlyween prank. &lt;br /&gt;
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An hour later, Quickshadow arrives to surrender herself to Evan and Myles. They get into her, but the seatbelts immediately restrain them and lock into place. Myles reveals that their video has already been uploaded, but Quickshadow counters with their own video, which is transparently and hilariously a fake, even before the bit at the end where it&#039;s outright &amp;quot;revealed&amp;quot; as one. She opens the door to the human members of the team, who sadly say that they&#039;re definitely delusional. Chief Burns says that he and Chase will accompany Quickshadow on the ferry to the mainland, where Evan and Myles will go back to jail for a long time. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode shares its title with [[Ghost in the Machine (G1)|an episode of the G1 cartoon]], as well as [[Ghost in the Machine (Legends)|an event in the mobile game, &#039;&#039;Transformers Legends&#039;&#039;]].&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Crustaceans from the Cosmos&#039;&#039; is a reference to the radio adaptation of &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;, which, according to popular legend, did terrify hundreds of people who thought it was real when it originally aired. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=1096712</id>
		<title>MediaWiki talk:Community Portal</title>
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		<updated>2016-05-25T23:23:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: /* How to request main page changes? */&lt;/p&gt;
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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki.  Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers_Wiki:Tech|A Not So Brief Summary of the Horrible Things That McFly and Co. Have Done To Keep This Wiki From Melting Down]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m getting really sick of cleaning up fiction note templates, so, hey, here&#039;s an idea. Every single one from now on has to actually be brought up here before the community before it&#039;s implemented and not done willy-nilly by one person or a small group of editors. I realize that, as a wiki, we are going to inherently have continuity boners, but the recent trend of drowning character pages in notes is annoying and intrusive. The idea that we need to mention every point of continuity minutiae even in articles like fucking [[universal greeting]] is obnoxious and needs to &#039;&#039;stop&#039;&#039;. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. Things like &amp;quot;Regeneration One is a continuation of the Marvel Comics continuity&amp;quot; don&#039;t need to be in the middle of character write-ups. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:30, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Marvel thing is a unique case that at least is relevant to character write ups—it tells readers that the Marvel UK stuff mixed into the Marvel US stuff doesn&#039;t count. (Of course, this only applies to articles that actually have sections for the original Marvel comics.) The text in the notes could stand to be trimmed down, though. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Do you have some other examples of unnecessary notes we could discuss specifically? I caught the 2001 Car Robots note you mentioned from [[universal greeting]], and I agree it&#039;s pointless unless there&#039;s actually an RiD vs. CR distinction to be made. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Wings, Classics, RG1 on pages without the continuity they&#039;re referring to. Ask Vector Prime. I&#039;m bringing this up now because we need to develop a better way of vetting templates that are theoretically going to be used on many pages. One or two &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; reponses on some hidden talk page most people don&#039;t notice shouldn&#039;t be used as a community-wide consensus on things that dramatically alter the reading experience across multiple pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And looking at the other stuff we have, Template:Notecmn could easily be made as part of the actual prose and flow more naturally that way, for example. (&amp;quot;In a divergent timeline, blahblah&amp;quot;). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:17, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And there&#039;s [[:Template:Notemoviebio]], which explains what is a regular occurrence in all of Transformers fiction for no real reason. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::A similar one is [[:Template:Notetitantlg]], which I tried to make pointless when we overhauled the movie character pages a while back and which I think we ditched &#039;&#039;most&#039;&#039; uses of, but is still out there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:22, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Not quite the same situation, but I&#039;d like to chime in that I&#039;m not a big fan of [[:Template:ongoing]]. Most of the time, editors completely forget to include it on the appropriate sections, it reiterates something that&#039;s obvious (&amp;quot;if there&#039;s information missing here, you should add it.&amp;quot;) and it&#039;s a note that only gets put up so that it can be eventually be taken down. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:27, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I agree that it&#039;s quite useless when we already have stub templates. Either information is missing or it isn&#039;t and people just leave it up on pages that really don&#039;t need it because it&#039;s not that noticeable. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:33, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Ehhhhhn. I&#039;m willing to let &amp;quot;ongoing&amp;quot; live, as, well, there&#039;s a TON of &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fictions and only a few currently-updating ones, and letting people know which ones are likely to actually &#039;&#039;continue&#039;&#039; and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative. &amp;quot;Stub&amp;quot; can mean &amp;quot;it came out already and no-one&#039;s bothered yet&amp;quot;, which is... different than &amp;quot;this cuts off because the scheduled continuation hasn&#039;t come out yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 08:12, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, if you find yourself overburdened with certain tasks, don&#039;t be afraid to ask for help. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks for taking care of the CR note. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No prob. As for the RG1 note, I agree that it would look nicer as a single line of text. I&#039;m having difficulty reducing it in length without leaving out something crucial though. I&#039;m putting it on the back-burner for now, but I&#039;ll keep it in mind. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:18, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Tried cutting it down a bit. The G2 bit was redundant. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Ah yes. Much better. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yeah, that&#039;s equally informative, but also far less intrusive. Nice work, Saix -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I just wanna say that I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who thinks we have too many goddamned templates. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:03, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Two templates for discussion: Template:TransformersComicMagazin and [[:Template:GIJoeTransformersfiction]]. Necessary or not? I feel like the former states what&#039;s already obvious by the fact that it&#039;s in its own section (&amp;quot;Comic-Magazin is not Marvel&amp;quot;), while I dunno about the latter. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Transformers Magazin could probably be done without. The {Gi joe transformers fiction} one, on the other hand, should probably be kept. With the way we use the {noteukonly} and generally treat the US and UK comics, I feel that we kinda need to point out &amp;quot;hey, unlike just about everything else from Marvel US, &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t actually fit into the Marvel UK &#039;verse.&amp;quot; -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Joe one is terrible. It&#039;s just plopped into the middle of fiction write-ups with no specification as to what text it refers to. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 16:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I can understand the &#039;&#039;purpose&#039;&#039;, but the execution just doesn&#039;t work at all. And I don&#039;t think it belongs on the issue pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:06, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
===Collapsable continuity notes?===&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t do much fiction-section work anymore, but if I can identify part of the problem &#039;&#039;with the fiction itself&#039;&#039;... unlike most franchises, TFs has a metric fuckton of &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; divergent splinter timelines. I mean, how many different Marvel G1 comic timeline spinoffs do we have now that don&#039;t actually relate to each other? It can be difficult at first look of a page to tell the difference between a series of proper, one-timeline sequel-series and, well, the clusterfuck that is post-Marvel-G1-related stuff branching out like a hydra. So I&#039;m loathe to just run with the &amp;quot;well everyone reading thew wiki should know this&amp;quot; mentality.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So,  can see &#039;&#039;why&#039;&#039; the templates began, but when we started getting more and more branches? A bit out of hand. And worse, it&#039;s not quite a thing the base wiki organization tools are good at adapting and making obvious. (Frankly I find it tricky to tell sometimes the difference between a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;===&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection and a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;====&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection, but that&#039;s another quibble for later).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think a good amount of this can be mitigated with some creative rewriting of the sections&#039; openings, &amp;quot;ten years after the battle of Klo&amp;quot; or whatnot. And certainly that doesn&#039;t even need to be brought up if it&#039;s just a one-off page of a piece of minor technology from one issue of a spinoff. But for larger pages with a buttload of timeline-fragments?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We might want to look into collapsible Notes. Just a single template that can be adapted not just for this, but, well, for anything. Whack it up top, collapsed, have it say &amp;quot;Continuity Note: (more)&amp;quot; (not as a default), then people can click on it and see &amp;quot;well this continuity branches off from blardeeblar and has no relation to blardeeblar&amp;quot;. This way the clutter is minimal, the information on our confusing mess of fiction is right at the fingertips.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just a thought.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This sounds useful. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I love this idea. Collapsable notes could solve a lot of the problems we&#039;ve been having with the templates as of late. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just took a brief look at the voiceactor template, since that does basically what I&#039;m looking at, and even that template&#039;s workings are beyond my ability to understand and adapt into a collapsible Note. So um. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It depends how you want it to work. Something like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1|text 2}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; to produce:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1 &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Or just &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::It wouldn&#039;t be difficult to knock either of those templates up --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Expanding off of what Emvee posted here, I&#039;ve worked up a collapsible note template which can display a custom header, custom visible text and hideable text that is either custom or derived from a preset name. The first draft, examples and documentation can be found here: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Template:CollapseNote]]. All critiques are welcome. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 18:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Is there a way to put that in a gray box so it matches with the rest of our Notes? I think this has legs. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:49, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::D&#039;oh! There is. In fact, I actually did have the box but the CSS for it is only available in my personal CSS file at the moment. I&#039;ll go integrate that into the template itself for now, then once this is approved maybe it can be moved to a site wide CSS file to reduce template clutter.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:40, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Okay, the CSS is now included in the template so users besides myself can see the gray box. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:50, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I love it. Nice work, Tigerpaw. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 03:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Seconded, good stuff. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 04:16, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll stick the css in the common file when everyone&#039;s happy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of notes and templates, can we also scrub the IDW notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]] was shorter than it should&#039;ve been because [[Simon Furman]] was fired.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; and the Dreamwave notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Because Dreamwave collapsed, plot threads were left dangling.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;...unless those notes are &#039;&#039;specifically&#039;&#039; contributing something to the character&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d say yes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:16, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More Prominence for IDW ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to propose a change, because the above discussion reminded me of something I find annoying -- the position of IDW in the Fiction sections. At this point, I believe IDW is the longest running continuous fiction in Transformers history. Yet while the 30 year cartoon and Marvel Comic are easy to pick out due to their position at the top or their multitude of subcategories, IDW is typically found near the bottom of the list, nestled in between Japanese micro-continuities, Sticker Adventures and, god help us, &#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is there a better configuration we could work with? I&#039;d be supportive of a &amp;quot;Major Fiction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Minor Fiction&amp;quot; breakdown for the traditional &amp;quot;Fiction&amp;quot; section, if we could all peacefully agree to what counts as Major and Minor. Another thought I had was to do away with the &#039;&#039;Ongoing Fiction Template&#039;&#039;, and just have &amp;quot;Ongoing Fiction&amp;quot; automatically at the top and &amp;quot;Previous Fiction&amp;quot; underneath.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Any of this sound worth looking into more? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Absolutely friggin&#039; not, never or ever.  Organizing fiction due to perceived prominence is counter to the very spirit this wiki was founded on.  (It&#039;s also amazingly subjective and would be a headache to argue over indefinitely.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:36, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wasn&#039;t that the point of changing the disambiguation pages though? So that the more prominent stuff was at the top and had pictures to help people? [[User:Omegatron|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That kind of potential slippery-sloping was why I had misgivings about that change in the first place.  But Disambig pages are navigation pages, and articles are not, and I have faith that we can recognize the different needs for pages according to their utility and not just make everything the same just because it makes our brains feel superficially happier.  But let me put it this way: Imagine Grapple&#039;s page.  In a &amp;quot;we put IDW first because it&#039;s important&amp;quot; world, a dinky subsection in which he appears in the background twice is given precedence over a Big Looker storybook in which he is a major character.  IDW isn&#039;t always super important to a character&#039;s page just because its fiction&#039;s gone on a decade!  And here&#039;s the kicker -- for those folks who&#039;ve appeared a buttload in IDW, those sections are split off into their own subpages and navigation at the very top of the page leads you right there, effectively already giving everyone this proposed functionality.  And without losing the information of real-world chronological release order that levels the canonicity playing field, I might add.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. The disambiguation page thing wasn&#039;t something brought up on a whim. It&#039;s not a thing I&#039;d propose for any other &amp;quot;type&amp;quot; of page, because disambig pages serve a different purpose than almost every other. That requires some special consideration. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:15, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, no, no, no and no, with a side order of no and no for dessert. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just throwing this out there as an alternative suggestion to moving the sections around: what do people think of the idea of bolding major sections in the table of contents, so for Optimus you&#039;d end up with something [[:File:Contents bold test.jpg|like this]]. For the sake of preventing arguments we&#039;d reserve it for the really prominent G1 continuities (G1 and BW cartoons, Marvel, IDW and possibly Dreamwave comics), since it&#039;s not generally a problem for other continuity families. I&#039;m thinking this could be done very simply in CSS without having to edit a ton of pages, though it would mean that characters with only an IDW fiction section would have it bolded in their contents listing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s got some potential, I think. I don&#039;t think single-fiction character with bold in their TOC would be a problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:48, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This ties into an old proposal from way back that I&#039;d also found in my Community Portal re-read, and was brought up on Allspark (and I&#039;d briefly mentioned here recently); the visual differences between subheaders are really quite minimal. It&#039;s hard to tell at a look where one continuity-line ends and the other begins. there&#039;s got to be something we can do just &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;visually&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; to make these divisions easier to identify by sight. Can we make the header-text for continuity-breaks centered? If we wanna get fancy, can we make a graphic the header? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:47, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Okay, apparently you [[User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Fiction_header_experiment|CAN center section headers]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did some experimenting and [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|found a way to do this]]. Requires a little bit of HTML/CSS inside the header but easily doable I think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 23:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the initial concern, at least, was IDW, can someone sandbox a G1 character with an IDW section to see how that might look? [[Pipes (G1)]] seems like a good candidate, since he&#039;s got a good-sized IDW section that also isn&#039;t so big it should just be a subpage. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve grown pretty iffy on using images as headers, honestly. There&#039;s a lotta &amp;quot;standalone&amp;quot; timelines that don&#039;t really have logos and having only SOME major headers be logo images... ehhhhhn. Might be best to just stick with text, maybe a thin bar above, with a wiki-wide change to a thicker tier-1-header-bar. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually? Second thoughts, no. This would likely start too many arguments. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another proposal after I had a thought just now: [[:File:H3 dashed overlines.jpg|dashed overlines]]. The difference should be enough to differentiate from the underlines on h2s, and they nicely group together related stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 26 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Goal Of The Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
(slight editing of something I posted to the Allspark&#039;s wiki thread)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little while back I decided to rummage through the Community Portal archives... from the beginning. The earliest stages, when we were hammering out how to lay out the damn pages, what we should disambiguate by, etc. Saw the suggestions for making information more readily-accessible (character appearance tables, the GO! Box, the navigation templates), the &amp;quot;common wiki&amp;quot; practices we rejected because they just could not apply to this franchise (character infoboxes, for example, thanks to the many many many bodies the characters could have), up through the big move away from Wikia when they started really fucking us over with their ads.&lt;br /&gt;
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And during that lonnnnng string of arguments with Wikia staff, when we tried (repeatedly) to explain why this &amp;quot;only not-signed-in readers will see the ads so why are you complaining since you don&#039;t see the page-ruining ads see this will somehow make money!&amp;quot; thing was utter bullshit...&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Re-read that. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;RE-FUCKING-READ THAT.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The wiki lost that mentality somewhere. At some point in the last few years, the wiki stopped being about the readers, what would make the vast ocean of material accessible and entertaining to them. It became a micro-minutia-based circlejerk. It became editors confusing anal-retentive busywork (based on the strictest interpretation of rules that always were meant to be applied with a slight degree of malleability because our subject matter absolutely HAS to be handled that way) with productive and useful updating. And with the advent of the Facebook AVP, it became &amp;quot;gee now I can make Real Transformers wheeeeee&amp;quot; with even more micro-minutia and bad-faith gaming of the canon policy that was originally meant to give equal space to the obscure so we wouldn&#039;t have the &amp;quot;prominence = more deserving&amp;quot; mentality (plus stuff very specifically made to create circumstances to middle-finger policies that have served us well for a decade prior).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, people who&#039;ve worked for a decade to make the wiki something huge and special and a wiki other fandoms look at and go &amp;quot;holy shit, we need something like this&amp;quot; find themselves frustrated and edging away as the spirit of the whole thing turns into this sour, solipsistic nigh-gatekeepery up-its-own-ass wank festival, especially when certain subjects just won&#039;t. Goddamn. STOP.&lt;br /&gt;
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From one of our newest regulars:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Hell, I&#039;ve only had to deal with one day of GoBots discussion and I&#039;m already sick of it! I can&#039;t even begin to imagine what it must be like to deal with this shit on multiple different occasions over the course of several years, but I bet it&#039;s unpleasant.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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So when I see &amp;quot;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;why don&#039;t we rename every character in the Japanese-fiction writeups to their Japanese names&amp;quot;, yeah, I&#039;m gonna respond harsher because it&#039;s kind of hit that point where we have to start bringing the hammer down hard to keep this thing even remotely accessible to anyone who isn&#039;t fully engaged in the minutia of TFdom.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think wiki editors (and others) need to stop and have a good think about WHY they&#039;re doing what they&#039;re doing, and who they&#039;re actually doing it for, and, ultimately, if they should actually be doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s an important difference between &amp;quot;can&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;should&amp;quot;, and too many don&#039;t see it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;look i already apologised for the japanese name thing okay&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, said, though, and you&#039;ve given me something to think about. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because of recent events, I wasn&#039;t expecting anyone to jump for joy, but this is a bit much. First of all, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; is reductive and dismissive to the facts on the table and the argument I presented. IDW being &amp;quot;ongoing fiction&amp;quot; isn&#039;t my subjective opinion, it&#039;s a fact. It&#039;s also the longest running mass-market fiction not only ongoing right now, but also in Transformers history. So I&#039;m not some weebo saying, &amp;quot;I like Japan, so other people must want Japan to be more prominent, too.&amp;quot; (no offense, Riptide -- just for the argument) We were discussing a case of &#039;&#039;factual&#039;&#039; prominence, not the &amp;quot;perceived prominence&amp;quot; just inside my own silly head.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I don&#039;t need &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; repeated back to me because it was you, M &amp;quot;Not lovin&#039; this idea&amp;quot; Sipher I was thinking of, saying those very words, which made me think this was a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe we have different ideas about what casual readers are, but I think of them as new/returning fans who came here because of some ongoing fiction they just saw, and might like to learn more about. If they&#039;re watching &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039;, that&#039;s cool -- most of those character pages are traceable by (RID) or (RB) disambigs, which is simple enough to figure out. And their Fiction box sections are (mostly) minimal enough to glance over and find what you wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But what about the comics? Well, first they have to know IDW is Generation 1, which isn&#039;t exactly on the cover of the comics. Then they have to know the Fiction section on a character&#039;s page is organized by release date. You and I know that, but is that rule actually posted in a FAQ somewhere so we could expect a casual reader to know it? The way Sunbow and Marvel subdivide on most pages, a casual reader could be forgiven for thinking the most prominent stuff is &#039;&#039;already&#039;&#039; on the top. And even assuming they&#039;re visiting the Wiki on a full-screen computer and not a mobile device, for the 1987 guys or earlier &amp;quot;IDW Generation 1 continuity&amp;quot; is likely going to be &amp;quot;below the fold&amp;quot;. And if you made it to the end of this paragraph thinking TL;DR, imagine the casual reader going through this in real time. THAT was who I was thinking of when I suggested the Ongoing Fiction content that the casual reader might be looking for when they come here &#039;&#039;be easier to find somehow&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m not &#039;&#039;trying&#039;&#039; to throw your words back at you, M Sipher, but again it honestly was a post you made this week defending the Ongoing Fiction Template that made me think of this. You said, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;letting people know which ones are likely to actually continue and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. But the current razor-thin, World&#039;s Smallest Template Note doesn&#039;t really accomplish that. A casual reader may stumble across it by accident, if they squint, or they&#039;ll find it if they&#039;re already looking for it, but that&#039;s it. Floating Ongoing Fiction to the top of the Fiction sections negates the need for the template, lets new readers find what they were most likely looking for more easily, and those Fictions can just as easily be shuffled back down into &#039;release date order &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fiction&#039; once they are no longer ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If this was a bad idea, fine. But maybe you could provide me a definition of &amp;quot;casual reader friendly&amp;quot;, because obviously my &#039;&#039;WWMSD?&#039;&#039; bracelet doesn&#039;t help when I&#039;m too stupid to know the answer. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:09, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a Table of Contents at the top of just about every character page. The wiki software even &#039;&#039;automatically&#039;&#039; makes a TOC if a page has enough subsections. That TOC has &amp;quot;IDW continuity&amp;quot; in it, which links directly to said subsection. Easy.&lt;br /&gt;
::Your proposal is nothing but arguments waiting to happen over what&#039;s &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot;, to become more arguments over which &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; fiction takes prominenece over the other &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; (comics or cartoons?) with no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039;. It is furniture-shuffling. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not to put words in Sipher&#039;s mouth, but I don&#039;t think the main idea he&#039;s putting across is &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; about your proposal, Xaaron, you&#039;ve just said it at a moment in time in which we are seeing a lot of what Sipher describes (but trying to dub something &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; lead to arguments - I remember way back when when people would complain we were putting the Marvel comic ahead of the cartoon). To repost something I&#039;ve also said on the Allspark - which I don&#039;t consider to relate to your proposal, Xaaron - I have been saying for a long time in private conversation what Sipher is saying now, and several months ago, I tried to explain how we&#039;re basically responsible for breeding this attitude into our readers. It&#039;s the same attitude that caused the AVP brouhaha - we are seeing editors now openly state that the wiki has been a gateway to a lot of this stuff for them, and that they have fixated on the minutiae and the continuity-fondling, which is such a small part of what Transformers, and the wiki, is about that it&#039;s the wrong lesson to come away with. Wiki projects ATTRACT those with mindsets focused on categorization, organization, and pattern-observation. It took years before we had editors who were able to reconcile that way of thinking with our &amp;quot;and also fun!&amp;quot; approach, but they now exist, and are more interested in trying to make sure all the headers are precisely the same, that everything is in exactly the right continuity-order and header-structure and category, that all the disambigs are exact - that absolutely everything fits into its little imaginary box, and that nothing breaks the rules by coming out of its box unless there&#039;s a seventeen-week debate about it first. ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT, but - with the greatest of actual respect to our new editors, because it is thankless hugging busywork and its impressive that you&#039;re dedicated to it - as Sipher says, this &amp;quot;moving of the furniture&amp;quot; is all that newer-guard editors actually seem to want to do, or to be capable of doing. It&#039;s very, very easy to paste a one-or-two sentence nugget of information from AVP into the wiki, which is why so many people do it and why it got so out of control - but you don&#039;t see anyone falling over themselves to add Spacewarp&#039;s Log stuff, even before the two-week delay, because it&#039;s not presented in nugget form, it&#039;s a piece of prose that you&#039;d actually have to - shock, horror - read and summarize, and - oh christ no - it&#039;s NOT full of references to pre-existing things so you can&#039;t just paste it into existing articles or throw the AVP stub template in. When - just for a recent example - I can go to the article of a major character like Ironhide or Thundercracker and still find tons of material that needs filling in, that says &amp;quot;it doesn&#039;t matter that it&#039;s been ten years, there is a lot more important work to do than making sure that header is a level 2 or a level 3 one.&amp;quot; - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I just want to be clear that people who take the time to do &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; like, say, fixing links so they no longer lead to a redirect page are &#039;&#039;unquestionably welcome to&#039;&#039;. That&#039;s good, that has a tangible benefit to our wiki (reducing server load). That kind of &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;absolutely&#039;&#039; okay. It&#039;s the seemingly-endless stream of talks about reorganizing hundreds of pages, arguments over disambigs, and yeah, the &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; trivia-nugget work that&#039;s grinding here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I get the concern over the AVP-inspired editors, and even counseled Giggidy about this very issue above. In hindsight, I probably should&#039;ve waited for the dust to settle more on the GoBots matter before suggesting something similar for different reasons, but like I said, the idea was sparked by the above discussion about the Ongoing Template.&lt;br /&gt;
:And I completely agree that a Major/Minor Fiction split would likely lead to more arguments than benefits, which is why I also proposed Ongoing/Not Ongoing. That&#039;s completely binary and objective. It&#039;s not subject to debate over which fiction is &amp;quot;More Ongoing&amp;quot; than another.&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that the IDW links above the main character images remove any need for my proposal...for the characters who have them. My concern rested with characters like Jazz or Soundwave who do not have IDW subpages, and that continuity is 21 or 24 listings down on their Fiction TOCs, nestled between things like &#039;&#039;Q-Robo&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039;. But, as I believe Chip suggested on the Allspark, a way to resolve all this is to just be more lenient with allowing IDW subpages in the first place. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too proposed that. Is there a specific reason why that tab system isn&#039;t more prominent. Heck, maybe it would even work for stuff like the Marvel and Sunbow cartoons. Those tabs are a simple and brilliant way to get our readers to what they are looking for. A casual coming here after googling say &amp;quot;Prowl Transformers&amp;quot; needs to be sent to were they need to be efficiently as possible.  A page tab on his page header right at the top with IDW staring you in the face ks a good solution that doesn&#039;t deal with any of the parliamentary bojangling that&#039;s been such a hot topic lately[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 01:25, 14 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Continuity Stream Bullshit==&lt;br /&gt;
I suggested this on the Allspark, and there&#039;s some momentum for it so I&#039;ll put it here.&lt;br /&gt;
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As M Sipher said above, arbitrary furniture movement is bad. That said, all the continuity stream minutae is even worse, and serves only to bloat our pagecount with duplicated information in articles that will only ever be stubs forever. Why do both [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] and [[The Transformers (issue)]] exist? Or [[Marvel Comics continuity]] if you think the continuity is more important than what the Universal Stream indicator actually decodes to, although if there weren&#039;t significant opposition I&#039;d argue that since the stream encoding to a piece of fiction is a 1:1 mapping that we should respect that directly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since a Universal Stream page will not contain any useful information other than its actual stream indicator (and VERY occasionally some detail such as &amp;quot;this universe is destroying another one&amp;quot;), I&#039;d like to propose that all universal stream pages either be redirected to the actual single piece of fiction that the stream indicator decodes to, or to the Continuity timeline page that best describes it - and somewhere on **that** page we try and find a place for the universal stream number. Perhaps in the same fashion we originally handled alternate names - directly below the introductory paragraph, in bold?&lt;br /&gt;
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If this causes problems, feel free to disregard... but I&#039;ve heard enough discontent about the matter and there&#039;s been enough push for it there that I feel confident enough to put my next foot forward on this happening. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:32, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My proposal is that rather than stream pages, major continuities would all get pages. a Marvel g1 universe page, a sunbow cartoon universe a Classicsverse page and so on. Then, stream numbers used in universe would be redirect to those pages. Minor streams would get redirected to the current list pages we have now; AVP additions to minor streams would go in notes on the works main page. (For example, Ulchtar would go in the notes of that videogame)[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:51, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noted that the already existing Universal Stream pages could be converted into continuity pages in some instances , http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Classicsverse could be simply renamed &amp;quot;Classics Continuity/Universe&amp;quot; for example[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:07, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not seeing how universal streams are logically any different than random crap namedropped without context in stories all the time. [[Pralmtzurlz VI]], [[Vaulted Heights of K&#039;th Kinsere]], and [[Payload of General Frightening]] have less content than most universe pages. There also isn&#039;t really a way to effectively have real-world information and then fictional universe information on the same article; [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]] isn&#039;t going to look any better if you put all of the [[To Die Game!]] stuff on it. (Primax 984.0 Gamma is also not limited to &amp;quot;The Transformers&amp;quot;, so, uh, what?) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The difference is those pages are not wholly redundant. For example, yeah, maybe the city &amp;quot;Gygax&amp;quot; only got mentioned offhand in one story. But as it gets a page, it goes in the Category listing of &amp;quot;Cybertron cities&amp;quot; (or whatever it&#039;s actually called) and then when, oh, say, a TV cartoon writer wants to look up cities for references...&lt;br /&gt;
::In other words, BAM, the whole reason we did this wiki. The obscure was given an outlet, and it got used again. And this is far from the only instance.&lt;br /&gt;
::But this is not a functionality that serves any real purpose for the named Streams. You need to know the code to make any sense of them, at which point you can easily make up a code for any piece of fiction that exists. And &#039;&#039;every piece of Transformers fiction that exists IS canonically its own universe&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; simultaneously wholly-subsumed parts of other universes, because of quantum (read: pseudoscience arglebargle translation of a meta-based concept with no real defined rules because we, and I literally mean WE as in me and Trent, made it all up and jesus on a tilt-a-whirl some people think way too hard and too rigidly about this). All these pages do is create a hoop for people to jump through unnecessarily. We don&#039;t need the pagecount bloat.&lt;br /&gt;
::If people are REALLY concerned about stuff not from, say, that one storybook that some FunPub gag-strip or Facebook post placed some wacky new event, then there is a simple solution. NOTES SECTION. One bullet point is really all you need in the overwhelming majority of cases. Something else, a subsection under notes called, oh, &amp;quot;Use in Other Fictions&amp;quot; will cover it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, the &amp;quot;club fiction adds a bunch of stuff to some random micro-continuity&amp;quot; scenario is really the only one where the stream pages are even remotely good for anything - the Shell Game/Megazarak universe springs to mind - and in those cases it is potentially useful to have the info from a bunch of separate AVP things (or whatever) collected.  But as you say, Sipher, that kind of thing could happily live in the notes section of the fiction article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::From a group complaining about &amp;quot;moving the furniture around&amp;quot;, there sure have been a lot of suggestions recently about deleting a lot of pages and taking all the info in them and putting them onto slightly harder-to-find pages. I&#039;m not even sure I have an opinion on this proposal, but the observation struck me as odd. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Context is important, and the context here is bandwidth issues and reader experience. Those are fucking important. Every time we bounce a reader to another page, that&#039;s another tick on our sever, and these pages are, as noted, almost wholly redundant info when we could send them to a page that has the whole thing. And you&#039;re gonna sit there and claim that a listing of made-up words and number gibberish is somehow easier for a reader to use than just putting the relevant information on a page titled in plain English they&#039;re &#039;&#039;vastly&#039;&#039; more likely to find on their own. Okay, sure, whatever. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:17, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think at the very least, there&#039;s little reason to argue that stream indicators for major continuities shouldn&#039;t just redirect to the continuity page, i.e. [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] to [[Marvel Comics continuity]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let me put this another way... the stream pages feel akin to having a page for &amp;quot;Khrapovik&amp;quot; then listing only the things &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Ratchet did in the Russian comics on it. Again, &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; a different universe, sure, but it&#039;s part of the bigger universe and splitting it out really only obfuscates info in the name of pedantry, and it&#039;s just better off folding it into the main. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That makes a lot of sense to me. This might be one of those situations where we want to use flexibility. If there is a continuity page that already exists, maybe the redirect goes there and we have a fiction section. If there&#039;s a universal stream and little else, maybe that can just go away. And if there&#039;s a lot of information about the stream, maybe we just keep it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So should we start compiling solutions for wn eventual vote. I&#039;m behind the idea of replacing stream pages with pages for the continuity.  In fact I think a good way to deal with extra Avp infor is to use are already existing arrow system. Thede added storiee are just like,say Regeneration One added to the end of Marvel US in a way, so for example. Mystery of the Convoy would get an arrow that goes to To Die Game, Shell Game would get an extra a avp write up detail.&lt;br /&gt;
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But over all I am for us having Continuity pages instead of streams.  Like was said above we don&#039;t need Primax Whatever Gamma AND Marvel US continuity pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate names==&lt;br /&gt;
When we mention a character&#039;s alternate names (i.e, on X&#039;s page, we note that &amp;quot;he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Y&#039;&#039;&#039;), there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly &#039;&#039;where&#039;&#039; we do it. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grapple_(G1)&amp;amp;oldid=1043677 Some pages]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: Grapple&#039;s alternate name has been moved to the bio, so the link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; place such information near the top in the continuity note, whereas [[Octane|others]] put it at the end of the opening paragraph. Is there a policy on this? I don&#039;t particularly care one way or the other, I&#039;d just like to see them made consistent. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I prefer them to be in the top rather than in the bio.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:54, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The continuity notes are cluttered enough already. Put them at the end of the bio. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think, barring the unusual case of an obscure alternate name that is seldom used, the end of the continuity note is the ideal place. But I&#039;m not sure consistency is absolutely necessary, as long as the information is conveyed in an appropriate way.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:14, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I concur with Saix. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I prefer the end of the intro over the continuity note.  It leaves more room for multiple names (in case a character has 2 or more alternate names) and also makes room for context (like, when and where and why is the character sometimes called by that other name). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I prefer the end of the intro as well. Take a look at [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hot_Rod&amp;amp;oldid=1046644 Hot Rod]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: as of 18:11, 20 January 2016 (EST), they&#039;ve been moved into the bio. The link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;He has all his names in the continuity note, and it&#039;s a mess. If we&#039;re going to pick just one way to do it (and I think we should), it should be at the end of the intro. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You&#039;ve convinced me that the intro is a smarter spot. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
How about [[Vector Prime]]&#039;s alternate names? He&#039;s never made a solid appearance using any of them, so should they be in both the intro and in the AVP story section? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:23, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: That feels like a great place to make an exception and only list them in the fiction section or the notes.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:44, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Convoy is also called Miscellaneous Magnus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names_links|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:25, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Parodies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should have one page that lists notable parodies and stuff. Just to get them out of the way. [[User:HarbringerOfDoom|HarbringerOfDoom]] ([[User talk:HarbringerOfDoom|talk]]) 08:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They&#039;re already out of the way, by virtue of being not on this wiki. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I noticed recently that the other place has started listing stuff like characters&#039; appearances on &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Robot Chicken&#039;&#039; in their main profiles, which gives us even more reason not to. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can see the appeal, but I suspect it would quickly get out of hand. Transformers gets referenced in a lot of pop culture. Every show, movie, and Web comic is somebody&#039;s favorite, so I suspect any such page would quickly become an unbearably long and tedious list. So what would that leave us with? A page saying Transformers often shows up in pop culture? I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s any value to that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:13, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You guys have got to just be doing this on purpose now. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I will get myself banned before I will allow this wiki to cover Family Guy and Robot Chicken. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Like, a thousand times no. I believe similar discussions have been had in the past, and the answer was a resounding no. (I can&#039;t find that particular discussion at the moment; I&#039;ll post it here if I find it.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::We have episodes of cartoons and issues of comics that are stubs and primary character articles that need to have their fiction sections filled out, but ok, yeah.  Let&#039;s start pedantically listing every time &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; has referenced Transformers.  That should be a priority. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**Condescending Wonka image**&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
The only page that would make sense (to me) while keeping in line with the spirit for this wiki is a simple list of times that official product was used in movies and television.&lt;br /&gt;
*This toy was in such and such movie in year 19XX. &lt;br /&gt;
*Transformers episode so&#039;n&#039;so was seen the background of movie in year 200X.&lt;br /&gt;
*A number of toys were shown featured in McTV show in episode whatzitz.&lt;br /&gt;
References are out. Parodies are out, and it&#039;s only a single page as to not clutter up the rest (similar to what we do with unofficial Transformers guides.) --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 02:36, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I really don&#039;t see any potential benefit to that. Are we going to make a page full of stuff like &amp;quot;Some G1 toys showed up in &#039;&#039;Flight of the Navigator&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and stuff like that? Why? It&#039;s pointless, and it would just open the floodgates for more of the same pointless crap, not to mention how bloated and useless it would be. Before long, people will use that page as an argument for including bullshit from Family Guy and the Chevy commercial with the car that turns into a robot and god knows what else. Information about references to &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in other media is something for Wikipedia to cover. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is there a category for images from the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we have a category for all the images posted on the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages like [[Ask Vector Prime]], [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]], etc? As I&#039;ve been going through the [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|uncategorized images]], I&#039;ve noticed that quite a few of them are from those Facebook pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can&#039;t seem to find any kind of technical place to post this, so I&#039;m just going to post it here in the hopes of getting some attention. For some reason, I&#039;ve been locked out of the site; trying to access the website on either of my main computers results in a white page and an &amp;quot;ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; message. I&#039;ve tried clearing my cache, deleting cookies, all that stuff (I can still post on my phone). I suspect that it&#039;s some kind of internal server problem (I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve done anything to break the wiki on my end), but I&#039;m not sure? Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:09, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That might have been me being too zealous with the spam blocking. I&#039;ll send you an email shortly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:36, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thank you! I will see if it works. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did you get the email? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:14, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: sorry for the late response, it got put into junk mail. Clicking the link just takes me to a blocked site. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:43, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::OK, I think you should now be unblocked. Give it another try! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:57, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: It worked! Many thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:03, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::No problem - sorry about that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:05, 29 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Facebook-exclusive characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
Given the copious quantity of characters debuted through the Tornado and TransTech Facebook pages who have no toys and have yet to appear in any other fiction, would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;Facebook-only characters&amp;quot; subcategory of &amp;quot;Fiction-only characters&amp;quot;? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:59, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a bad idea. I&#039;d also be down for &amp;quot;Online-media exclusive characters&amp;quot; or something along those lines. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:15, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds worthwhile. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Furthering the use of list articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at Chris McFeely&#039;s [[User:Chris_McFeely/Sandbox:ListofRenegades|sandbox]] for the GoBots list article, I think that maybe similar list articles would be a nice way to handle some of the minor Shattered Glass and Kre-O characters. Pages like [[Broadside (SG)]] are rather useless, and I think that consolidating such pages into a list article would lead to a better reader experience. (To save us from pointless page moves, I would suggest just turning the old pages into a redirect to the list article, keeping all the categories.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:38, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Would you care to elaborate on that? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:20, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We only used a list for GoBots as a compromise for the endless debate. Applying that concept to inarguable Transformers characters is senseless and leads to more arguments over what counts for a list and what doesn&#039;t. You&#039;re just causing more inconsistency and headaches for no benefit. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:39, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I still hate the list pages for Gobots, I don&#039;t want to have to spread it further. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:25, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lists are not ideal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Fair enough. It was just a thought -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sick Of Arguing About GoBots II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== RID Kre-O ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since we&#039;re unlikely to get any more Kre-O fiction, and all of the RID Kre-O articles are pretty sparse in content, maybe they should just be merged to the main RID character articles? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:27, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll be honest, I&#039;m not averse to this at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:13, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I guess nobody&#039;s really opposed to this or cares, so I&#039;ll go ahead and do it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
After looking through the Kre-O pages... I feel like the comic-only cameos should all just be merged to whatever they&#039;re referencing. After merging all of the Iocus crap, it feels right to do the same to articles that are pretty much just &amp;quot;BWII Galvatron, but as a Kreon&amp;quot;. They&#039;re very specific references removed from their context for really no good reason. Maybe not a popular suggestion, but throwing it out there. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:50, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So long as it doesn&#039;t mess around with characters that freely switch between different incarnations of themselves, or are composite homages that can&#039;t be neatly classified. I can&#039;t think of any way those could be neatly merged into another page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:10, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I&#039;m mostly focusing on unique characters (Fractyl, Atari, Tarn, etc.) and not the big archetypes like Optimus or Bumblebee. Most characters with toys will be left alone. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m extremely cool with this. Never been big fan of giving them individual articles in the first place. Like, honestly, in a more organized world where this stuff hadn&#039;t been created on an incremental basis, &amp;quot;Fornax&amp;quot; almost certainly wouldn&#039;t be a thing and it&#039;d all be Iocus. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, no real objection, if a tepid &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot;. I mean, I&#039;m not really convinced that Kreons based on existing characters who DO have toys but no fiction (like a hefty chunk of the &amp;quot;Class&amp;quot; sets) really need to be split out. A page from Kreon Topspin seems... overly redundant. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:29, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;m looking around more and it seems like there&#039;s only a select few that couldn&#039;t be encompassed by their main versions. Most of the Class series is guilty of that, but there&#039;s also lots of Kreons based on one-shot characters ([[Wingspan Hawk]], [[Barrage (Kre-O)]]). We have a lot of pages that are just &amp;quot;this exists and is obviously this other thing&amp;quot; from both the toyline and the comic. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:39, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You probably are doing this, but be sure to add the &amp;quot;Kreons&amp;quot; category and such when condensing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ehhh... I disagree. I mean, the Kreon Class ones, sure, but I&#039;m less certain on What about the likes of the [[Soundwave&#039;s Trap? Stop Operation Brainwash Humanity!|Soundwaves and Convoys]] and [[Enter the New Emperor of Destruction!? Stop Galvatron&#039;s Rampage!|Starscreams]]? I&#039;d probably vote strong &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the Class of 84/5 guys, weak &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the fictionless Kreons (and maybe the non-Transformer comic cameos, I don&#039;t know), but a strong &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; to anyone who was actually in the comic. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 06:55, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::We do have a couple of examples where character pages have sections that cover more than one character already. The Masterforce transtectors and the BeCool cartoon come to mind. Does it really serve anything to give those tiny one-panel cameos in a referential comic their own pages? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::As I&#039;ve noted before, there comes a point where we&#039;re just being pointlessly pedantic, making people jump through hoops (and incrementally hitting our bandwidth limits) for... no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039; near as I can tell. Seriously. What&#039;s the benefit? What is the purpose? &amp;quot;Consistency&amp;quot;? Sorry, this franchise has grown and mutated too big for us to try and cram everything into no-exceptions rules. We HAVE to be flexible and make exceptions in some places, and when it comes to overly-redundant pages, that&#039;s where I&#039;m more than willing to make exceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m down with low-content one-pages for one-panel &#039;&#039;unique&#039;&#039; characters to be certain, like the Hideous Brain Guy, but for Basically The Well-Known G1 Character But In Brick Form? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Should we merge &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Soundblaster (Kre-O)]] into [[Soundblaster (G1)]]?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Their colors aren&#039;t exactly the same, but they&#039;re both black repaint clones of the main Soundwave. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:02, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, whatever. If another independent G1 Soundblaster pops up, that&#039;s probably where they&#039;re going anyway. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
So what are we doing about &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; toys who unambiguously represent a single established character? Back on March 25, Sipher undid the merger of &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; [[Ravage (Kre-O)|Ravage]], but on May 5, Chris merged &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; Megaplex. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:25, 15 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Informing new users of the recent anti-spam measures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Slight re-editing of something I posted on the Allspark) I think we may need to put something in [[Template:Welcome|the welcome template]] and/or on [[Main Page/editing-tips|Main Page/editing-tips]] about how new users are unable to create pages because of all the spam stuff; it seems to be [[User talk:Foffy the Sheep#Extreme Editing Difficulties|confusing some people]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:45, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve just reduced the timeout for creating new pages down to 6 hours, which should still slow down the spammers but not be quite as much of a burden on legit new users. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:50, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Is any active admin still getting emails sent to the webmaster mailbox?  I ask because I&#039;m getting a ton of them:  Looks like new IP/User Agent blocks, and I haven&#039;t touched this setup since... 2014? [[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 23:12, 23 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We now have a new captcha based on the [[Transformers Name Generator]], which should hopefully be harder for the spammers to crack. Also my apologies to the non-spammers caught up in the blocking - all of the user agent blocks have been rolled back by now, so hopefully no one should be blocked from viewing the site. (Also as per McFly above, I&#039;ve redirected the webmaster email address to me) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:18, 25 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope the new signup test is not too difficult - I notice we haven&#039;t had any new signups since implementing it. I changed the notice to be clearer and provided an example. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:30, 27 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Memobots and Deskcepticons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For those not in the know, the Hasbro Facebook page posted a bunch of new &amp;quot;characters&amp;quot; for April Fools, The Memobots and the Deskcepticons. While awesome, there&#039;s very little material for each &amp;quot;character&amp;quot; to have its own page. (All there is are photoshopped pictures of office supplies, some tech-spec stats and some very brief blurbs.) I&#039;m thinking maybe each &amp;quot;faction&amp;quot; could have a single page, listing each of its members, instead of a very bare page for each &amp;quot;character.&amp;quot; Thoughts? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Just so long as they&#039;re represented here somehow.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:08, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible partnership with the German Transformers Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve been approached by the main admin of the German Transformers Wiki[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Abatesnz#Conflict_with_the_TFWiki.net] about forming a partnership with them. We&#039;ve had a long running partnership with Wookieepedia, which is also hosted on Wikia. They&#039;d link to our pages from their pages and vice versa. Possibly we could set them up as an interlanguage link - I&#039;d have to look into what&#039;s involved. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast Wars reorganization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Demonstration]]. It&#039;s evident that all of the conflicting continuities and crap is out of control, so this seems like the cleanest approach now. It&#039;s based on the movie approach we&#039;re using, since it&#039;s a pretty similar situation. Thoughts? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:23, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s fine by me.  The old chronological way is becoming a clusterfudge.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:33, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GoBots discussions consolidated==&lt;br /&gt;
Since we&#039;ve been discussing this topic for literally years, I thought it would be useful to consolidate it all in one place, in order, with summaries of the key decisions. It can be daunting to keep track of it all, and in recent months the rules have changed several times. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots]]. Summaries could use some work, but I tried to stick to the simple facts without editorializing. I think the important thing with the summaries is that they succinctly say roughly what was discussed and what, if any, decisions were reached. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:47, 28 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Transformers Trilogy&amp;quot; manga ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Although I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s the actual title.) Turns out I have it on my hard drive: [https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ymumej4klqkttlu/AAA2AdRbHyvvxUU6kR6b-rBCa?dl=0]. Feel free to do with as you please. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 01:03, 17 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate Names links==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise&#039;s]] page, I see from the top he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetstar&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetsmart&#039;&#039;&#039;. I know Streetstar comes from &#039;&#039;Wings&#039;&#039;, but I don&#039;t know where Streetsmart comes from. I recommend a practice of making those &amp;quot;sometimes known as&amp;quot; bits into links that carry you down to the particular Fiction or Toy where the particular name comes from, like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Streetwise (G1)#Wings Universe|Streetstar]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. Thoughts? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the idea, but I would prefer ref notes to section links. Also, there are cases like Bluestreak/Silverstreak, where the alternate name is used in multiple places, and we&#039;d have to decide how much detail we&#039;d want to go into in those instances. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, if an alternate name is used in multiple places, a reference note explanation attached to the name could better cover all of those in one go. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would prefer to uses refs even when the name is only used in one place. I can&#039;t quite put it into words, but using section links for this purpose just feels...&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:55, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you try to put it in words? Because section links would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Ref notes would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to go to some text at the bottom of the page to tell you where to look in the middle of the page to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Seems like an unnecessary extra step. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:32, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the section link wouldn&#039;t make it very clear that it&#039;s showing you where the name is from. It looks like it&#039;s going to send you to a different page or something, then just sends you to a different section of the same page and hopes you figure out what&#039;s going on. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The ref note has an advantage in that it&#039;s already associated with addendums and citations. When the reader sees a ref note, they instantly know &amp;quot;this will show me some details about this bit of text&amp;quot;, while a link says &amp;quot;This is going to send me to another page&amp;quot;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 14:05, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::...I feel like the reader would have to be pretty stupid not to understand what the link was doing. &amp;quot;Slingshot is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Quickslinger&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; Click the link, see a toy of Slingshot called Quickslinger, with http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slingshot_(G1) still in the address bar. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:21, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Yeah, I guess you&#039;re probably right. Ref notes would only be absolutely necessary if an alternate name is used in multiple places. I&#039;d still rather use ref notes on all of them, but your way works just as well and it&#039;s not really worth arguing about any further. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:16, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@Foffy: I don&#039;t see a problem for the cases I&#039;ve mentioned, no, but I&#039;m not convinced my idea is best for cases where a character is regularly known by multiple names. For instance, how would this apply to Hot Rod&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Prime is also called Miscellaneous Maximus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:24, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== characters without pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i do not feel compelled to create pages for [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Toxicity&amp;amp;diff=1096168&amp;amp;oldid=1072705 Scarytown] or [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Insecticon_%28WFC%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096169 Scurry Down], do you?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:10, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given that this character doesn&#039;t exist and he&#039;s telling the other injured Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down,&amp;quot; no, I don&#039;t. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Chris McFeely edit summary:  We went through this when the episode aired - he&#039;s telling the other Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks.  Can you link me to that discussion?  (Not finding it on [[Talk:Insecticon_(WFC)]] or [[Talk:Toxicity]], maybe the Community Portal archives?)  i have the DVD in my computer&#039;s disc drive right now and i really don&#039;t think he&#039;s saying &amp;quot;stay down&amp;quot;; i&#039;m quite sure i hear another syllable in the middle there.  (i also think Hardshell using the other Con&#039;s name makes more sense than telling him to stay down.)  But like i said, it&#039;s hard to make out what he&#039;s saying.  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there&#039;s even a discussion to link to, because editors just reverted anyone who tried to add it. He&#039;s not calling him &amp;quot;Scurrytown.&amp;quot; I&#039;m sorry, he&#039;s just not. It&#039;s the snarling voice Kaye uses. There&#039;s KIND of a &amp;quot;k-&amp;quot; sound in there, but there&#039;s no R. The Insecticon has just tried to get up, and Hardshell is telling it not to bother, and instead stay down and radio the ship. -  [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A suggestion to benefit the wiki ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey everyone. I&#039;ve noticed that this wiki lacks some templates that would be beneficial to have when it comes to linking articles. For example, if I want to link to the G1 Starscream page, I would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. That&#039;s sort of a pain to do. Over on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/ SmashWiki], we use some templates to cut down on the amount of text needed to do that kind of linking. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:SSB Here&#039;s an example].&lt;br /&gt;
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If we implemented this, one would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; if they wanted to link to that page. That cuts down on a lot of text.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this a good suggestion? Btw, I still think that pages such as [[Optimus Prime (WFC)]] should be called Optimus Prime (Aligned) instead. It makes &#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039; more sense to do it that way and would make this template process a bit easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Could be useful. But disambiguating by continuity family instead of franchise has been discussed to death and decided against repeatedly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know that it&#039;s a frequently argued topic, but I think it&#039;s more relevant than ever due to the fact that we have two franchises with the same name (RID). I mean, why are [[Steeljaw (RID)]] and [[Grimlock (RID)]] not characters from the same series? It makes no sense. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 14:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Part of the disambiguation by series, and not by continuity family, is because sometimes character names get re-used within a universe for different characters. For instance, we have [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] the Autobot lion, and Steeljaw the Decepticon wolf, both of whom exist in the Aligned universe. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:05, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The problem you&#039;re having is that you&#039;re expecting the disambig tags to convey information when that&#039;s not their actual job. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It&#039;s not? Wouldn&#039;t it be simpler then to just go numerical by appearance? Optimus Prime (1), Optimus Prime (2), etc? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:32, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Because then you&#039;d have to memorise a list of numbers in order to link to the Optimus Prime that you wanted? If disambig tags were supposed to be a source of information, every single article would have one. Their actual job is to avoid having articles named the same thing. The continuity note, i.e. the &#039;&#039;first sentence of every article&#039;&#039;, is the thing that&#039;s supposed to tell what franchise and continuity family a thing is from. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That. The current disambig tags exist to help editors remember who&#039;s who while saving us from having to type &amp;quot;(RID 2015)&amp;quot; over and over. Would you be able to tell me offhand who &amp;quot;Blackout III&amp;quot; is? They are ultimately an editing convenience and are not meant to convey every single detail about a character. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:12, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I can see how that would be a pain. I wasn&#039;t proposing that system, just trying to reconcile the idea that tags don&#039;t convey information.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So that case would move further down the hierarchy. How does that affect the idea of starting with continuity family? And it is completely ignoring the fact that the (RID) tags (and the (Universe) tags) are ambiguous in the real world sense. True, they may not be ambiguous in the narrow wiki definition, but to new and casual readers the fact that the exact same tag can refer to two different series is confusing. We should not be increasing real world ambiguity (&amp;quot;Which RID series is this again?&amp;quot;) just because it doesn&#039;t cause wiki-centric ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:15, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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oh my god you guys, &#039;&#039;&#039;no, stop&#039;&#039;&#039; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I feel like disambiguation tag debates should be definitively banned, to be honest. They just go into circles and nothing ever changes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:44, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Typing &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; also works, is only slightly longer than &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, and has the benefit of not including the overhead of expanding a template which adds processing time to any page when the site has to render it. That last one might not be a problem on a small wiki with only medium-sized pages like SmashWiki, but here it could be a big issue. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:22, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s great. I had no idea. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; kinda buried in the middle of [[Help:Editing]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, to anyone who actually contributed to the discussion, thanks for your input. I can see that this sort of template isn&#039;t really what this wiki is looking for, although I do think it would make things a little easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 23:40, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How to request main page changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi! I&#039;m fairly new here, so I&#039;m sorry if this is a silly question. The main page seems to be edit-locked except for admins, which is an excellent idea. However, I&#039;m used to having a place to request edits to locked pages - in this case, I&#039;d probably mostly be asking for updates to the Rescue Bots &amp;quot;newest episodes&amp;quot; list. Does this wiki have one? If yes, where? Thanks for answering! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 17:02, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The current releases box actually runs off a separate template that anybody can edit - click the little &#039;V&#039; in the corner of the box to access it and update to your heart&#039;s content! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:12, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn&#039;t even notice that. Thanks! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 19:23, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki.  Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving|Leaving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Complaints|Complaints]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;New Ad Policy:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bookworm Database-Crash:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Project:Bookworm Crash]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving2|Leaving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Server Move:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dealing With Vandalism:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GoBots Sister Wiki:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wiki Technical Information:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers_Wiki:Tech|A Not So Brief Summary of the Horrible Things That McFly and Co. Have Done To Keep This Wiki From Melting Down]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m getting really sick of cleaning up fiction note templates, so, hey, here&#039;s an idea. Every single one from now on has to actually be brought up here before the community before it&#039;s implemented and not done willy-nilly by one person or a small group of editors. I realize that, as a wiki, we are going to inherently have continuity boners, but the recent trend of drowning character pages in notes is annoying and intrusive. The idea that we need to mention every point of continuity minutiae even in articles like fucking [[universal greeting]] is obnoxious and needs to &#039;&#039;stop&#039;&#039;. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. Things like &amp;quot;Regeneration One is a continuation of the Marvel Comics continuity&amp;quot; don&#039;t need to be in the middle of character write-ups. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:30, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Marvel thing is a unique case that at least is relevant to character write ups—it tells readers that the Marvel UK stuff mixed into the Marvel US stuff doesn&#039;t count. (Of course, this only applies to articles that actually have sections for the original Marvel comics.) The text in the notes could stand to be trimmed down, though. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Do you have some other examples of unnecessary notes we could discuss specifically? I caught the 2001 Car Robots note you mentioned from [[universal greeting]], and I agree it&#039;s pointless unless there&#039;s actually an RiD vs. CR distinction to be made. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Wings, Classics, RG1 on pages without the continuity they&#039;re referring to. Ask Vector Prime. I&#039;m bringing this up now because we need to develop a better way of vetting templates that are theoretically going to be used on many pages. One or two &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; reponses on some hidden talk page most people don&#039;t notice shouldn&#039;t be used as a community-wide consensus on things that dramatically alter the reading experience across multiple pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And looking at the other stuff we have, Template:Notecmn could easily be made as part of the actual prose and flow more naturally that way, for example. (&amp;quot;In a divergent timeline, blahblah&amp;quot;). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:17, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And there&#039;s [[:Template:Notemoviebio]], which explains what is a regular occurrence in all of Transformers fiction for no real reason. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::A similar one is [[:Template:Notetitantlg]], which I tried to make pointless when we overhauled the movie character pages a while back and which I think we ditched &#039;&#039;most&#039;&#039; uses of, but is still out there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:22, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Not quite the same situation, but I&#039;d like to chime in that I&#039;m not a big fan of [[:Template:ongoing]]. Most of the time, editors completely forget to include it on the appropriate sections, it reiterates something that&#039;s obvious (&amp;quot;if there&#039;s information missing here, you should add it.&amp;quot;) and it&#039;s a note that only gets put up so that it can be eventually be taken down. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:27, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I agree that it&#039;s quite useless when we already have stub templates. Either information is missing or it isn&#039;t and people just leave it up on pages that really don&#039;t need it because it&#039;s not that noticeable. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:33, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Ehhhhhn. I&#039;m willing to let &amp;quot;ongoing&amp;quot; live, as, well, there&#039;s a TON of &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fictions and only a few currently-updating ones, and letting people know which ones are likely to actually &#039;&#039;continue&#039;&#039; and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative. &amp;quot;Stub&amp;quot; can mean &amp;quot;it came out already and no-one&#039;s bothered yet&amp;quot;, which is... different than &amp;quot;this cuts off because the scheduled continuation hasn&#039;t come out yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 08:12, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, if you find yourself overburdened with certain tasks, don&#039;t be afraid to ask for help. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks for taking care of the CR note. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No prob. As for the RG1 note, I agree that it would look nicer as a single line of text. I&#039;m having difficulty reducing it in length without leaving out something crucial though. I&#039;m putting it on the back-burner for now, but I&#039;ll keep it in mind. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:18, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Tried cutting it down a bit. The G2 bit was redundant. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Ah yes. Much better. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yeah, that&#039;s equally informative, but also far less intrusive. Nice work, Saix -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I just wanna say that I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who thinks we have too many goddamned templates. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:03, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Two templates for discussion: Template:TransformersComicMagazin and [[:Template:GIJoeTransformersfiction]]. Necessary or not? I feel like the former states what&#039;s already obvious by the fact that it&#039;s in its own section (&amp;quot;Comic-Magazin is not Marvel&amp;quot;), while I dunno about the latter. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Transformers Magazin could probably be done without. The {Gi joe transformers fiction} one, on the other hand, should probably be kept. With the way we use the {noteukonly} and generally treat the US and UK comics, I feel that we kinda need to point out &amp;quot;hey, unlike just about everything else from Marvel US, &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t actually fit into the Marvel UK &#039;verse.&amp;quot; -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Joe one is terrible. It&#039;s just plopped into the middle of fiction write-ups with no specification as to what text it refers to. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 16:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I can understand the &#039;&#039;purpose&#039;&#039;, but the execution just doesn&#039;t work at all. And I don&#039;t think it belongs on the issue pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:06, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
===Collapsable continuity notes?===&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t do much fiction-section work anymore, but if I can identify part of the problem &#039;&#039;with the fiction itself&#039;&#039;... unlike most franchises, TFs has a metric fuckton of &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; divergent splinter timelines. I mean, how many different Marvel G1 comic timeline spinoffs do we have now that don&#039;t actually relate to each other? It can be difficult at first look of a page to tell the difference between a series of proper, one-timeline sequel-series and, well, the clusterfuck that is post-Marvel-G1-related stuff branching out like a hydra. So I&#039;m loathe to just run with the &amp;quot;well everyone reading thew wiki should know this&amp;quot; mentality.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So,  can see &#039;&#039;why&#039;&#039; the templates began, but when we started getting more and more branches? A bit out of hand. And worse, it&#039;s not quite a thing the base wiki organization tools are good at adapting and making obvious. (Frankly I find it tricky to tell sometimes the difference between a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;===&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection and a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;====&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection, but that&#039;s another quibble for later).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think a good amount of this can be mitigated with some creative rewriting of the sections&#039; openings, &amp;quot;ten years after the battle of Klo&amp;quot; or whatnot. And certainly that doesn&#039;t even need to be brought up if it&#039;s just a one-off page of a piece of minor technology from one issue of a spinoff. But for larger pages with a buttload of timeline-fragments?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We might want to look into collapsible Notes. Just a single template that can be adapted not just for this, but, well, for anything. Whack it up top, collapsed, have it say &amp;quot;Continuity Note: (more)&amp;quot; (not as a default), then people can click on it and see &amp;quot;well this continuity branches off from blardeeblar and has no relation to blardeeblar&amp;quot;. This way the clutter is minimal, the information on our confusing mess of fiction is right at the fingertips.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just a thought.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This sounds useful. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I love this idea. Collapsable notes could solve a lot of the problems we&#039;ve been having with the templates as of late. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just took a brief look at the voiceactor template, since that does basically what I&#039;m looking at, and even that template&#039;s workings are beyond my ability to understand and adapt into a collapsible Note. So um. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It depends how you want it to work. Something like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1|text 2}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; to produce:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1 &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Or just &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::It wouldn&#039;t be difficult to knock either of those templates up --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Expanding off of what Emvee posted here, I&#039;ve worked up a collapsible note template which can display a custom header, custom visible text and hideable text that is either custom or derived from a preset name. The first draft, examples and documentation can be found here: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Template:CollapseNote]]. All critiques are welcome. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 18:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Is there a way to put that in a gray box so it matches with the rest of our Notes? I think this has legs. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:49, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::D&#039;oh! There is. In fact, I actually did have the box but the CSS for it is only available in my personal CSS file at the moment. I&#039;ll go integrate that into the template itself for now, then once this is approved maybe it can be moved to a site wide CSS file to reduce template clutter.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:40, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Okay, the CSS is now included in the template so users besides myself can see the gray box. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:50, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I love it. Nice work, Tigerpaw. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 03:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Seconded, good stuff. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 04:16, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll stick the css in the common file when everyone&#039;s happy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of notes and templates, can we also scrub the IDW notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]] was shorter than it should&#039;ve been because [[Simon Furman]] was fired.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; and the Dreamwave notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Because Dreamwave collapsed, plot threads were left dangling.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;...unless those notes are &#039;&#039;specifically&#039;&#039; contributing something to the character&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d say yes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:16, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More Prominence for IDW ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to propose a change, because the above discussion reminded me of something I find annoying -- the position of IDW in the Fiction sections. At this point, I believe IDW is the longest running continuous fiction in Transformers history. Yet while the 30 year cartoon and Marvel Comic are easy to pick out due to their position at the top or their multitude of subcategories, IDW is typically found near the bottom of the list, nestled in between Japanese micro-continuities, Sticker Adventures and, god help us, &#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is there a better configuration we could work with? I&#039;d be supportive of a &amp;quot;Major Fiction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Minor Fiction&amp;quot; breakdown for the traditional &amp;quot;Fiction&amp;quot; section, if we could all peacefully agree to what counts as Major and Minor. Another thought I had was to do away with the &#039;&#039;Ongoing Fiction Template&#039;&#039;, and just have &amp;quot;Ongoing Fiction&amp;quot; automatically at the top and &amp;quot;Previous Fiction&amp;quot; underneath.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Any of this sound worth looking into more? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Absolutely friggin&#039; not, never or ever.  Organizing fiction due to perceived prominence is counter to the very spirit this wiki was founded on.  (It&#039;s also amazingly subjective and would be a headache to argue over indefinitely.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:36, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wasn&#039;t that the point of changing the disambiguation pages though? So that the more prominent stuff was at the top and had pictures to help people? [[User:Omegatron|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That kind of potential slippery-sloping was why I had misgivings about that change in the first place.  But Disambig pages are navigation pages, and articles are not, and I have faith that we can recognize the different needs for pages according to their utility and not just make everything the same just because it makes our brains feel superficially happier.  But let me put it this way: Imagine Grapple&#039;s page.  In a &amp;quot;we put IDW first because it&#039;s important&amp;quot; world, a dinky subsection in which he appears in the background twice is given precedence over a Big Looker storybook in which he is a major character.  IDW isn&#039;t always super important to a character&#039;s page just because its fiction&#039;s gone on a decade!  And here&#039;s the kicker -- for those folks who&#039;ve appeared a buttload in IDW, those sections are split off into their own subpages and navigation at the very top of the page leads you right there, effectively already giving everyone this proposed functionality.  And without losing the information of real-world chronological release order that levels the canonicity playing field, I might add.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. The disambiguation page thing wasn&#039;t something brought up on a whim. It&#039;s not a thing I&#039;d propose for any other &amp;quot;type&amp;quot; of page, because disambig pages serve a different purpose than almost every other. That requires some special consideration. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:15, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, no, no, no and no, with a side order of no and no for dessert. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just throwing this out there as an alternative suggestion to moving the sections around: what do people think of the idea of bolding major sections in the table of contents, so for Optimus you&#039;d end up with something [[:File:Contents bold test.jpg|like this]]. For the sake of preventing arguments we&#039;d reserve it for the really prominent G1 continuities (G1 and BW cartoons, Marvel, IDW and possibly Dreamwave comics), since it&#039;s not generally a problem for other continuity families. I&#039;m thinking this could be done very simply in CSS without having to edit a ton of pages, though it would mean that characters with only an IDW fiction section would have it bolded in their contents listing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s got some potential, I think. I don&#039;t think single-fiction character with bold in their TOC would be a problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:48, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This ties into an old proposal from way back that I&#039;d also found in my Community Portal re-read, and was brought up on Allspark (and I&#039;d briefly mentioned here recently); the visual differences between subheaders are really quite minimal. It&#039;s hard to tell at a look where one continuity-line ends and the other begins. there&#039;s got to be something we can do just &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;visually&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; to make these divisions easier to identify by sight. Can we make the header-text for continuity-breaks centered? If we wanna get fancy, can we make a graphic the header? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:47, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Okay, apparently you [[User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Fiction_header_experiment|CAN center section headers]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did some experimenting and [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|found a way to do this]]. Requires a little bit of HTML/CSS inside the header but easily doable I think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 23:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the initial concern, at least, was IDW, can someone sandbox a G1 character with an IDW section to see how that might look? [[Pipes (G1)]] seems like a good candidate, since he&#039;s got a good-sized IDW section that also isn&#039;t so big it should just be a subpage. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve grown pretty iffy on using images as headers, honestly. There&#039;s a lotta &amp;quot;standalone&amp;quot; timelines that don&#039;t really have logos and having only SOME major headers be logo images... ehhhhhn. Might be best to just stick with text, maybe a thin bar above, with a wiki-wide change to a thicker tier-1-header-bar. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually? Second thoughts, no. This would likely start too many arguments. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another proposal after I had a thought just now: [[:File:H3 dashed overlines.jpg|dashed overlines]]. The difference should be enough to differentiate from the underlines on h2s, and they nicely group together related stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 26 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Goal Of The Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
(slight editing of something I posted to the Allspark&#039;s wiki thread)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little while back I decided to rummage through the Community Portal archives... from the beginning. The earliest stages, when we were hammering out how to lay out the damn pages, what we should disambiguate by, etc. Saw the suggestions for making information more readily-accessible (character appearance tables, the GO! Box, the navigation templates), the &amp;quot;common wiki&amp;quot; practices we rejected because they just could not apply to this franchise (character infoboxes, for example, thanks to the many many many bodies the characters could have), up through the big move away from Wikia when they started really fucking us over with their ads.&lt;br /&gt;
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And during that lonnnnng string of arguments with Wikia staff, when we tried (repeatedly) to explain why this &amp;quot;only not-signed-in readers will see the ads so why are you complaining since you don&#039;t see the page-ruining ads see this will somehow make money!&amp;quot; thing was utter bullshit...&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Re-read that. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;RE-FUCKING-READ THAT.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The wiki lost that mentality somewhere. At some point in the last few years, the wiki stopped being about the readers, what would make the vast ocean of material accessible and entertaining to them. It became a micro-minutia-based circlejerk. It became editors confusing anal-retentive busywork (based on the strictest interpretation of rules that always were meant to be applied with a slight degree of malleability because our subject matter absolutely HAS to be handled that way) with productive and useful updating. And with the advent of the Facebook AVP, it became &amp;quot;gee now I can make Real Transformers wheeeeee&amp;quot; with even more micro-minutia and bad-faith gaming of the canon policy that was originally meant to give equal space to the obscure so we wouldn&#039;t have the &amp;quot;prominence = more deserving&amp;quot; mentality (plus stuff very specifically made to create circumstances to middle-finger policies that have served us well for a decade prior).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, people who&#039;ve worked for a decade to make the wiki something huge and special and a wiki other fandoms look at and go &amp;quot;holy shit, we need something like this&amp;quot; find themselves frustrated and edging away as the spirit of the whole thing turns into this sour, solipsistic nigh-gatekeepery up-its-own-ass wank festival, especially when certain subjects just won&#039;t. Goddamn. STOP.&lt;br /&gt;
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From one of our newest regulars:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Hell, I&#039;ve only had to deal with one day of GoBots discussion and I&#039;m already sick of it! I can&#039;t even begin to imagine what it must be like to deal with this shit on multiple different occasions over the course of several years, but I bet it&#039;s unpleasant.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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So when I see &amp;quot;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;why don&#039;t we rename every character in the Japanese-fiction writeups to their Japanese names&amp;quot;, yeah, I&#039;m gonna respond harsher because it&#039;s kind of hit that point where we have to start bringing the hammer down hard to keep this thing even remotely accessible to anyone who isn&#039;t fully engaged in the minutia of TFdom.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think wiki editors (and others) need to stop and have a good think about WHY they&#039;re doing what they&#039;re doing, and who they&#039;re actually doing it for, and, ultimately, if they should actually be doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s an important difference between &amp;quot;can&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;should&amp;quot;, and too many don&#039;t see it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;look i already apologised for the japanese name thing okay&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, said, though, and you&#039;ve given me something to think about. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because of recent events, I wasn&#039;t expecting anyone to jump for joy, but this is a bit much. First of all, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; is reductive and dismissive to the facts on the table and the argument I presented. IDW being &amp;quot;ongoing fiction&amp;quot; isn&#039;t my subjective opinion, it&#039;s a fact. It&#039;s also the longest running mass-market fiction not only ongoing right now, but also in Transformers history. So I&#039;m not some weebo saying, &amp;quot;I like Japan, so other people must want Japan to be more prominent, too.&amp;quot; (no offense, Riptide -- just for the argument) We were discussing a case of &#039;&#039;factual&#039;&#039; prominence, not the &amp;quot;perceived prominence&amp;quot; just inside my own silly head.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I don&#039;t need &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; repeated back to me because it was you, M &amp;quot;Not lovin&#039; this idea&amp;quot; Sipher I was thinking of, saying those very words, which made me think this was a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe we have different ideas about what casual readers are, but I think of them as new/returning fans who came here because of some ongoing fiction they just saw, and might like to learn more about. If they&#039;re watching &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039;, that&#039;s cool -- most of those character pages are traceable by (RID) or (RB) disambigs, which is simple enough to figure out. And their Fiction box sections are (mostly) minimal enough to glance over and find what you wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But what about the comics? Well, first they have to know IDW is Generation 1, which isn&#039;t exactly on the cover of the comics. Then they have to know the Fiction section on a character&#039;s page is organized by release date. You and I know that, but is that rule actually posted in a FAQ somewhere so we could expect a casual reader to know it? The way Sunbow and Marvel subdivide on most pages, a casual reader could be forgiven for thinking the most prominent stuff is &#039;&#039;already&#039;&#039; on the top. And even assuming they&#039;re visiting the Wiki on a full-screen computer and not a mobile device, for the 1987 guys or earlier &amp;quot;IDW Generation 1 continuity&amp;quot; is likely going to be &amp;quot;below the fold&amp;quot;. And if you made it to the end of this paragraph thinking TL;DR, imagine the casual reader going through this in real time. THAT was who I was thinking of when I suggested the Ongoing Fiction content that the casual reader might be looking for when they come here &#039;&#039;be easier to find somehow&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m not &#039;&#039;trying&#039;&#039; to throw your words back at you, M Sipher, but again it honestly was a post you made this week defending the Ongoing Fiction Template that made me think of this. You said, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;letting people know which ones are likely to actually continue and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. But the current razor-thin, World&#039;s Smallest Template Note doesn&#039;t really accomplish that. A casual reader may stumble across it by accident, if they squint, or they&#039;ll find it if they&#039;re already looking for it, but that&#039;s it. Floating Ongoing Fiction to the top of the Fiction sections negates the need for the template, lets new readers find what they were most likely looking for more easily, and those Fictions can just as easily be shuffled back down into &#039;release date order &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fiction&#039; once they are no longer ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If this was a bad idea, fine. But maybe you could provide me a definition of &amp;quot;casual reader friendly&amp;quot;, because obviously my &#039;&#039;WWMSD?&#039;&#039; bracelet doesn&#039;t help when I&#039;m too stupid to know the answer. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:09, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a Table of Contents at the top of just about every character page. The wiki software even &#039;&#039;automatically&#039;&#039; makes a TOC if a page has enough subsections. That TOC has &amp;quot;IDW continuity&amp;quot; in it, which links directly to said subsection. Easy.&lt;br /&gt;
::Your proposal is nothing but arguments waiting to happen over what&#039;s &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot;, to become more arguments over which &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; fiction takes prominenece over the other &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; (comics or cartoons?) with no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039;. It is furniture-shuffling. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not to put words in Sipher&#039;s mouth, but I don&#039;t think the main idea he&#039;s putting across is &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; about your proposal, Xaaron, you&#039;ve just said it at a moment in time in which we are seeing a lot of what Sipher describes (but trying to dub something &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; lead to arguments - I remember way back when when people would complain we were putting the Marvel comic ahead of the cartoon). To repost something I&#039;ve also said on the Allspark - which I don&#039;t consider to relate to your proposal, Xaaron - I have been saying for a long time in private conversation what Sipher is saying now, and several months ago, I tried to explain how we&#039;re basically responsible for breeding this attitude into our readers. It&#039;s the same attitude that caused the AVP brouhaha - we are seeing editors now openly state that the wiki has been a gateway to a lot of this stuff for them, and that they have fixated on the minutiae and the continuity-fondling, which is such a small part of what Transformers, and the wiki, is about that it&#039;s the wrong lesson to come away with. Wiki projects ATTRACT those with mindsets focused on categorization, organization, and pattern-observation. It took years before we had editors who were able to reconcile that way of thinking with our &amp;quot;and also fun!&amp;quot; approach, but they now exist, and are more interested in trying to make sure all the headers are precisely the same, that everything is in exactly the right continuity-order and header-structure and category, that all the disambigs are exact - that absolutely everything fits into its little imaginary box, and that nothing breaks the rules by coming out of its box unless there&#039;s a seventeen-week debate about it first. ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT, but - with the greatest of actual respect to our new editors, because it is thankless hugging busywork and its impressive that you&#039;re dedicated to it - as Sipher says, this &amp;quot;moving of the furniture&amp;quot; is all that newer-guard editors actually seem to want to do, or to be capable of doing. It&#039;s very, very easy to paste a one-or-two sentence nugget of information from AVP into the wiki, which is why so many people do it and why it got so out of control - but you don&#039;t see anyone falling over themselves to add Spacewarp&#039;s Log stuff, even before the two-week delay, because it&#039;s not presented in nugget form, it&#039;s a piece of prose that you&#039;d actually have to - shock, horror - read and summarize, and - oh christ no - it&#039;s NOT full of references to pre-existing things so you can&#039;t just paste it into existing articles or throw the AVP stub template in. When - just for a recent example - I can go to the article of a major character like Ironhide or Thundercracker and still find tons of material that needs filling in, that says &amp;quot;it doesn&#039;t matter that it&#039;s been ten years, there is a lot more important work to do than making sure that header is a level 2 or a level 3 one.&amp;quot; - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I just want to be clear that people who take the time to do &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; like, say, fixing links so they no longer lead to a redirect page are &#039;&#039;unquestionably welcome to&#039;&#039;. That&#039;s good, that has a tangible benefit to our wiki (reducing server load). That kind of &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;absolutely&#039;&#039; okay. It&#039;s the seemingly-endless stream of talks about reorganizing hundreds of pages, arguments over disambigs, and yeah, the &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; trivia-nugget work that&#039;s grinding here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I get the concern over the AVP-inspired editors, and even counseled Giggidy about this very issue above. In hindsight, I probably should&#039;ve waited for the dust to settle more on the GoBots matter before suggesting something similar for different reasons, but like I said, the idea was sparked by the above discussion about the Ongoing Template.&lt;br /&gt;
:And I completely agree that a Major/Minor Fiction split would likely lead to more arguments than benefits, which is why I also proposed Ongoing/Not Ongoing. That&#039;s completely binary and objective. It&#039;s not subject to debate over which fiction is &amp;quot;More Ongoing&amp;quot; than another.&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that the IDW links above the main character images remove any need for my proposal...for the characters who have them. My concern rested with characters like Jazz or Soundwave who do not have IDW subpages, and that continuity is 21 or 24 listings down on their Fiction TOCs, nestled between things like &#039;&#039;Q-Robo&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039;. But, as I believe Chip suggested on the Allspark, a way to resolve all this is to just be more lenient with allowing IDW subpages in the first place. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too proposed that. Is there a specific reason why that tab system isn&#039;t more prominent. Heck, maybe it would even work for stuff like the Marvel and Sunbow cartoons. Those tabs are a simple and brilliant way to get our readers to what they are looking for. A casual coming here after googling say &amp;quot;Prowl Transformers&amp;quot; needs to be sent to were they need to be efficiently as possible.  A page tab on his page header right at the top with IDW staring you in the face ks a good solution that doesn&#039;t deal with any of the parliamentary bojangling that&#039;s been such a hot topic lately[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 01:25, 14 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Continuity Stream Bullshit==&lt;br /&gt;
I suggested this on the Allspark, and there&#039;s some momentum for it so I&#039;ll put it here.&lt;br /&gt;
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As M Sipher said above, arbitrary furniture movement is bad. That said, all the continuity stream minutae is even worse, and serves only to bloat our pagecount with duplicated information in articles that will only ever be stubs forever. Why do both [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] and [[The Transformers (issue)]] exist? Or [[Marvel Comics continuity]] if you think the continuity is more important than what the Universal Stream indicator actually decodes to, although if there weren&#039;t significant opposition I&#039;d argue that since the stream encoding to a piece of fiction is a 1:1 mapping that we should respect that directly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since a Universal Stream page will not contain any useful information other than its actual stream indicator (and VERY occasionally some detail such as &amp;quot;this universe is destroying another one&amp;quot;), I&#039;d like to propose that all universal stream pages either be redirected to the actual single piece of fiction that the stream indicator decodes to, or to the Continuity timeline page that best describes it - and somewhere on **that** page we try and find a place for the universal stream number. Perhaps in the same fashion we originally handled alternate names - directly below the introductory paragraph, in bold?&lt;br /&gt;
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If this causes problems, feel free to disregard... but I&#039;ve heard enough discontent about the matter and there&#039;s been enough push for it there that I feel confident enough to put my next foot forward on this happening. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:32, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My proposal is that rather than stream pages, major continuities would all get pages. a Marvel g1 universe page, a sunbow cartoon universe a Classicsverse page and so on. Then, stream numbers used in universe would be redirect to those pages. Minor streams would get redirected to the current list pages we have now; AVP additions to minor streams would go in notes on the works main page. (For example, Ulchtar would go in the notes of that videogame)[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:51, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noted that the already existing Universal Stream pages could be converted into continuity pages in some instances , http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Classicsverse could be simply renamed &amp;quot;Classics Continuity/Universe&amp;quot; for example[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:07, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not seeing how universal streams are logically any different than random crap namedropped without context in stories all the time. [[Pralmtzurlz VI]], [[Vaulted Heights of K&#039;th Kinsere]], and [[Payload of General Frightening]] have less content than most universe pages. There also isn&#039;t really a way to effectively have real-world information and then fictional universe information on the same article; [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]] isn&#039;t going to look any better if you put all of the [[To Die Game!]] stuff on it. (Primax 984.0 Gamma is also not limited to &amp;quot;The Transformers&amp;quot;, so, uh, what?) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The difference is those pages are not wholly redundant. For example, yeah, maybe the city &amp;quot;Gygax&amp;quot; only got mentioned offhand in one story. But as it gets a page, it goes in the Category listing of &amp;quot;Cybertron cities&amp;quot; (or whatever it&#039;s actually called) and then when, oh, say, a TV cartoon writer wants to look up cities for references...&lt;br /&gt;
::In other words, BAM, the whole reason we did this wiki. The obscure was given an outlet, and it got used again. And this is far from the only instance.&lt;br /&gt;
::But this is not a functionality that serves any real purpose for the named Streams. You need to know the code to make any sense of them, at which point you can easily make up a code for any piece of fiction that exists. And &#039;&#039;every piece of Transformers fiction that exists IS canonically its own universe&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; simultaneously wholly-subsumed parts of other universes, because of quantum (read: pseudoscience arglebargle translation of a meta-based concept with no real defined rules because we, and I literally mean WE as in me and Trent, made it all up and jesus on a tilt-a-whirl some people think way too hard and too rigidly about this). All these pages do is create a hoop for people to jump through unnecessarily. We don&#039;t need the pagecount bloat.&lt;br /&gt;
::If people are REALLY concerned about stuff not from, say, that one storybook that some FunPub gag-strip or Facebook post placed some wacky new event, then there is a simple solution. NOTES SECTION. One bullet point is really all you need in the overwhelming majority of cases. Something else, a subsection under notes called, oh, &amp;quot;Use in Other Fictions&amp;quot; will cover it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, the &amp;quot;club fiction adds a bunch of stuff to some random micro-continuity&amp;quot; scenario is really the only one where the stream pages are even remotely good for anything - the Shell Game/Megazarak universe springs to mind - and in those cases it is potentially useful to have the info from a bunch of separate AVP things (or whatever) collected.  But as you say, Sipher, that kind of thing could happily live in the notes section of the fiction article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::From a group complaining about &amp;quot;moving the furniture around&amp;quot;, there sure have been a lot of suggestions recently about deleting a lot of pages and taking all the info in them and putting them onto slightly harder-to-find pages. I&#039;m not even sure I have an opinion on this proposal, but the observation struck me as odd. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Context is important, and the context here is bandwidth issues and reader experience. Those are fucking important. Every time we bounce a reader to another page, that&#039;s another tick on our sever, and these pages are, as noted, almost wholly redundant info when we could send them to a page that has the whole thing. And you&#039;re gonna sit there and claim that a listing of made-up words and number gibberish is somehow easier for a reader to use than just putting the relevant information on a page titled in plain English they&#039;re &#039;&#039;vastly&#039;&#039; more likely to find on their own. Okay, sure, whatever. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:17, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think at the very least, there&#039;s little reason to argue that stream indicators for major continuities shouldn&#039;t just redirect to the continuity page, i.e. [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] to [[Marvel Comics continuity]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let me put this another way... the stream pages feel akin to having a page for &amp;quot;Khrapovik&amp;quot; then listing only the things &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Ratchet did in the Russian comics on it. Again, &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; a different universe, sure, but it&#039;s part of the bigger universe and splitting it out really only obfuscates info in the name of pedantry, and it&#039;s just better off folding it into the main. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That makes a lot of sense to me. This might be one of those situations where we want to use flexibility. If there is a continuity page that already exists, maybe the redirect goes there and we have a fiction section. If there&#039;s a universal stream and little else, maybe that can just go away. And if there&#039;s a lot of information about the stream, maybe we just keep it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So should we start compiling solutions for wn eventual vote. I&#039;m behind the idea of replacing stream pages with pages for the continuity.  In fact I think a good way to deal with extra Avp infor is to use are already existing arrow system. Thede added storiee are just like,say Regeneration One added to the end of Marvel US in a way, so for example. Mystery of the Convoy would get an arrow that goes to To Die Game, Shell Game would get an extra a avp write up detail.&lt;br /&gt;
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But over all I am for us having Continuity pages instead of streams.  Like was said above we don&#039;t need Primax Whatever Gamma AND Marvel US continuity pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate names==&lt;br /&gt;
When we mention a character&#039;s alternate names (i.e, on X&#039;s page, we note that &amp;quot;he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Y&#039;&#039;&#039;), there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly &#039;&#039;where&#039;&#039; we do it. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grapple_(G1)&amp;amp;oldid=1043677 Some pages]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: Grapple&#039;s alternate name has been moved to the bio, so the link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; place such information near the top in the continuity note, whereas [[Octane|others]] put it at the end of the opening paragraph. Is there a policy on this? I don&#039;t particularly care one way or the other, I&#039;d just like to see them made consistent. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I prefer them to be in the top rather than in the bio.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:54, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The continuity notes are cluttered enough already. Put them at the end of the bio. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think, barring the unusual case of an obscure alternate name that is seldom used, the end of the continuity note is the ideal place. But I&#039;m not sure consistency is absolutely necessary, as long as the information is conveyed in an appropriate way.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:14, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I concur with Saix. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I prefer the end of the intro over the continuity note.  It leaves more room for multiple names (in case a character has 2 or more alternate names) and also makes room for context (like, when and where and why is the character sometimes called by that other name). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I prefer the end of the intro as well. Take a look at [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hot_Rod&amp;amp;oldid=1046644 Hot Rod]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: as of 18:11, 20 January 2016 (EST), they&#039;ve been moved into the bio. The link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;He has all his names in the continuity note, and it&#039;s a mess. If we&#039;re going to pick just one way to do it (and I think we should), it should be at the end of the intro. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You&#039;ve convinced me that the intro is a smarter spot. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
How about [[Vector Prime]]&#039;s alternate names? He&#039;s never made a solid appearance using any of them, so should they be in both the intro and in the AVP story section? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:23, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: That feels like a great place to make an exception and only list them in the fiction section or the notes.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:44, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Convoy is also called Miscellaneous Magnus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names_links|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:25, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Parodies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should have one page that lists notable parodies and stuff. Just to get them out of the way. [[User:HarbringerOfDoom|HarbringerOfDoom]] ([[User talk:HarbringerOfDoom|talk]]) 08:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They&#039;re already out of the way, by virtue of being not on this wiki. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I noticed recently that the other place has started listing stuff like characters&#039; appearances on &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Robot Chicken&#039;&#039; in their main profiles, which gives us even more reason not to. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can see the appeal, but I suspect it would quickly get out of hand. Transformers gets referenced in a lot of pop culture. Every show, movie, and Web comic is somebody&#039;s favorite, so I suspect any such page would quickly become an unbearably long and tedious list. So what would that leave us with? A page saying Transformers often shows up in pop culture? I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s any value to that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:13, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You guys have got to just be doing this on purpose now. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I will get myself banned before I will allow this wiki to cover Family Guy and Robot Chicken. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Like, a thousand times no. I believe similar discussions have been had in the past, and the answer was a resounding no. (I can&#039;t find that particular discussion at the moment; I&#039;ll post it here if I find it.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::We have episodes of cartoons and issues of comics that are stubs and primary character articles that need to have their fiction sections filled out, but ok, yeah.  Let&#039;s start pedantically listing every time &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; has referenced Transformers.  That should be a priority. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**Condescending Wonka image**&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
The only page that would make sense (to me) while keeping in line with the spirit for this wiki is a simple list of times that official product was used in movies and television.&lt;br /&gt;
*This toy was in such and such movie in year 19XX. &lt;br /&gt;
*Transformers episode so&#039;n&#039;so was seen the background of movie in year 200X.&lt;br /&gt;
*A number of toys were shown featured in McTV show in episode whatzitz.&lt;br /&gt;
References are out. Parodies are out, and it&#039;s only a single page as to not clutter up the rest (similar to what we do with unofficial Transformers guides.) --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 02:36, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I really don&#039;t see any potential benefit to that. Are we going to make a page full of stuff like &amp;quot;Some G1 toys showed up in &#039;&#039;Flight of the Navigator&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and stuff like that? Why? It&#039;s pointless, and it would just open the floodgates for more of the same pointless crap, not to mention how bloated and useless it would be. Before long, people will use that page as an argument for including bullshit from Family Guy and the Chevy commercial with the car that turns into a robot and god knows what else. Information about references to &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in other media is something for Wikipedia to cover. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about GoBots....not the one you are thinking of ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is there a category for images from the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we have a category for all the images posted on the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages like [[Ask Vector Prime]], [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]], etc? As I&#039;ve been going through the [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|uncategorized images]], I&#039;ve noticed that quite a few of them are from those Facebook pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can&#039;t seem to find any kind of technical place to post this, so I&#039;m just going to post it here in the hopes of getting some attention. For some reason, I&#039;ve been locked out of the site; trying to access the website on either of my main computers results in a white page and an &amp;quot;ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; message. I&#039;ve tried clearing my cache, deleting cookies, all that stuff (I can still post on my phone). I suspect that it&#039;s some kind of internal server problem (I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve done anything to break the wiki on my end), but I&#039;m not sure? Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:09, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That might have been me being too zealous with the spam blocking. I&#039;ll send you an email shortly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:36, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thank you! I will see if it works. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did you get the email? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:14, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: sorry for the late response, it got put into junk mail. Clicking the link just takes me to a blocked site. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:43, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::OK, I think you should now be unblocked. Give it another try! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:57, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: It worked! Many thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:03, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::No problem - sorry about that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:05, 29 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Facebook-exclusive characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
Given the copious quantity of characters debuted through the Tornado and TransTech Facebook pages who have no toys and have yet to appear in any other fiction, would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;Facebook-only characters&amp;quot; subcategory of &amp;quot;Fiction-only characters&amp;quot;? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:59, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a bad idea. I&#039;d also be down for &amp;quot;Online-media exclusive characters&amp;quot; or something along those lines. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:15, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds worthwhile. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Furthering the use of list articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at Chris McFeely&#039;s [[User:Chris_McFeely/Sandbox:ListofRenegades|sandbox]] for the GoBots list article, I think that maybe similar list articles would be a nice way to handle some of the minor Shattered Glass and Kre-O characters. Pages like [[Broadside (SG)]] are rather useless, and I think that consolidating such pages into a list article would lead to a better reader experience. (To save us from pointless page moves, I would suggest just turning the old pages into a redirect to the list article, keeping all the categories.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:38, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Would you care to elaborate on that? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:20, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We only used a list for GoBots as a compromise for the endless debate. Applying that concept to inarguable Transformers characters is senseless and leads to more arguments over what counts for a list and what doesn&#039;t. You&#039;re just causing more inconsistency and headaches for no benefit. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:39, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I still hate the list pages for Gobots, I don&#039;t want to have to spread it further. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:25, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lists are not ideal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Fair enough. It was just a thought -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sick Of Arguing About GoBots II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== RID Kre-O ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since we&#039;re unlikely to get any more Kre-O fiction, and all of the RID Kre-O articles are pretty sparse in content, maybe they should just be merged to the main RID character articles? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:27, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll be honest, I&#039;m not averse to this at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:13, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I guess nobody&#039;s really opposed to this or cares, so I&#039;ll go ahead and do it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
After looking through the Kre-O pages... I feel like the comic-only cameos should all just be merged to whatever they&#039;re referencing. After merging all of the Iocus crap, it feels right to do the same to articles that are pretty much just &amp;quot;BWII Galvatron, but as a Kreon&amp;quot;. They&#039;re very specific references removed from their context for really no good reason. Maybe not a popular suggestion, but throwing it out there. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:50, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So long as it doesn&#039;t mess around with characters that freely switch between different incarnations of themselves, or are composite homages that can&#039;t be neatly classified. I can&#039;t think of any way those could be neatly merged into another page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:10, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I&#039;m mostly focusing on unique characters (Fractyl, Atari, Tarn, etc.) and not the big archetypes like Optimus or Bumblebee. Most characters with toys will be left alone. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m extremely cool with this. Never been big fan of giving them individual articles in the first place. Like, honestly, in a more organized world where this stuff hadn&#039;t been created on an incremental basis, &amp;quot;Fornax&amp;quot; almost certainly wouldn&#039;t be a thing and it&#039;d all be Iocus. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, no real objection, if a tepid &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot;. I mean, I&#039;m not really convinced that Kreons based on existing characters who DO have toys but no fiction (like a hefty chunk of the &amp;quot;Class&amp;quot; sets) really need to be split out. A page from Kreon Topspin seems... overly redundant. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:29, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;m looking around more and it seems like there&#039;s only a select few that couldn&#039;t be encompassed by their main versions. Most of the Class series is guilty of that, but there&#039;s also lots of Kreons based on one-shot characters ([[Wingspan Hawk]], [[Barrage (Kre-O)]]). We have a lot of pages that are just &amp;quot;this exists and is obviously this other thing&amp;quot; from both the toyline and the comic. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:39, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You probably are doing this, but be sure to add the &amp;quot;Kreons&amp;quot; category and such when condensing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ehhh... I disagree. I mean, the Kreon Class ones, sure, but I&#039;m less certain on What about the likes of the [[Soundwave&#039;s Trap? Stop Operation Brainwash Humanity!|Soundwaves and Convoys]] and [[Enter the New Emperor of Destruction!? Stop Galvatron&#039;s Rampage!|Starscreams]]? I&#039;d probably vote strong &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the Class of 84/5 guys, weak &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the fictionless Kreons (and maybe the non-Transformer comic cameos, I don&#039;t know), but a strong &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; to anyone who was actually in the comic. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 06:55, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::We do have a couple of examples where character pages have sections that cover more than one character already. The Masterforce transtectors and the BeCool cartoon come to mind. Does it really serve anything to give those tiny one-panel cameos in a referential comic their own pages? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::As I&#039;ve noted before, there comes a point where we&#039;re just being pointlessly pedantic, making people jump through hoops (and incrementally hitting our bandwidth limits) for... no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039; near as I can tell. Seriously. What&#039;s the benefit? What is the purpose? &amp;quot;Consistency&amp;quot;? Sorry, this franchise has grown and mutated too big for us to try and cram everything into no-exceptions rules. We HAVE to be flexible and make exceptions in some places, and when it comes to overly-redundant pages, that&#039;s where I&#039;m more than willing to make exceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m down with low-content one-pages for one-panel &#039;&#039;unique&#039;&#039; characters to be certain, like the Hideous Brain Guy, but for Basically The Well-Known G1 Character But In Brick Form? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Should we merge &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Soundblaster (Kre-O)]] into [[Soundblaster (G1)]]?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Their colors aren&#039;t exactly the same, but they&#039;re both black repaint clones of the main Soundwave. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:02, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, whatever. If another independent G1 Soundblaster pops up, that&#039;s probably where they&#039;re going anyway. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
So what are we doing about &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; toys who unambiguously represent a single established character? Back on March 25, Sipher undid the merger of &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; [[Ravage (Kre-O)|Ravage]], but on May 5, Chris merged &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; Megaplex. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:25, 15 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Informing new users of the recent anti-spam measures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Slight re-editing of something I posted on the Allspark) I think we may need to put something in [[Template:Welcome|the welcome template]] and/or on [[Main Page/editing-tips|Main Page/editing-tips]] about how new users are unable to create pages because of all the spam stuff; it seems to be [[User talk:Foffy the Sheep#Extreme Editing Difficulties|confusing some people]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:45, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve just reduced the timeout for creating new pages down to 6 hours, which should still slow down the spammers but not be quite as much of a burden on legit new users. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:50, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Is any active admin still getting emails sent to the webmaster mailbox?  I ask because I&#039;m getting a ton of them:  Looks like new IP/User Agent blocks, and I haven&#039;t touched this setup since... 2014? [[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 23:12, 23 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We now have a new captcha based on the [[Transformers Name Generator]], which should hopefully be harder for the spammers to crack. Also my apologies to the non-spammers caught up in the blocking - all of the user agent blocks have been rolled back by now, so hopefully no one should be blocked from viewing the site. (Also as per McFly above, I&#039;ve redirected the webmaster email address to me) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:18, 25 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope the new signup test is not too difficult - I notice we haven&#039;t had any new signups since implementing it. I changed the notice to be clearer and provided an example. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:30, 27 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Memobots and Deskcepticons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For those not in the know, the Hasbro Facebook page posted a bunch of new &amp;quot;characters&amp;quot; for April Fools, The Memobots and the Deskcepticons. While awesome, there&#039;s very little material for each &amp;quot;character&amp;quot; to have its own page. (All there is are photoshopped pictures of office supplies, some tech-spec stats and some very brief blurbs.) I&#039;m thinking maybe each &amp;quot;faction&amp;quot; could have a single page, listing each of its members, instead of a very bare page for each &amp;quot;character.&amp;quot; Thoughts? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Just so long as they&#039;re represented here somehow.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:08, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible partnership with the German Transformers Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve been approached by the main admin of the German Transformers Wiki[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Abatesnz#Conflict_with_the_TFWiki.net] about forming a partnership with them. We&#039;ve had a long running partnership with Wookieepedia, which is also hosted on Wikia. They&#039;d link to our pages from their pages and vice versa. Possibly we could set them up as an interlanguage link - I&#039;d have to look into what&#039;s involved. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast Wars reorganization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Demonstration]]. It&#039;s evident that all of the conflicting continuities and crap is out of control, so this seems like the cleanest approach now. It&#039;s based on the movie approach we&#039;re using, since it&#039;s a pretty similar situation. Thoughts? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:23, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s fine by me.  The old chronological way is becoming a clusterfudge.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:33, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GoBots discussions consolidated==&lt;br /&gt;
Since we&#039;ve been discussing this topic for literally years, I thought it would be useful to consolidate it all in one place, in order, with summaries of the key decisions. It can be daunting to keep track of it all, and in recent months the rules have changed several times. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots]]. Summaries could use some work, but I tried to stick to the simple facts without editorializing. I think the important thing with the summaries is that they succinctly say roughly what was discussed and what, if any, decisions were reached. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:47, 28 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Transformers Trilogy&amp;quot; manga ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Although I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s the actual title.) Turns out I have it on my hard drive: [https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ymumej4klqkttlu/AAA2AdRbHyvvxUU6kR6b-rBCa?dl=0]. Feel free to do with as you please. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 01:03, 17 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise&#039;s]] page, I see from the top he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetstar&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetsmart&#039;&#039;&#039;. I know Streetstar comes from &#039;&#039;Wings&#039;&#039;, but I don&#039;t know where Streetsmart comes from. I recommend a practice of making those &amp;quot;sometimes known as&amp;quot; bits into links that carry you down to the particular Fiction or Toy where the particular name comes from, like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Streetwise (G1)#Wings Universe|Streetstar]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. Thoughts? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the idea, but I would prefer ref notes to section links. Also, there are cases like Bluestreak/Silverstreak, where the alternate name is used in multiple places, and we&#039;d have to decide how much detail we&#039;d want to go into in those instances. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, if an alternate name is used in multiple places, a reference note explanation attached to the name could better cover all of those in one go. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would prefer to uses refs even when the name is only used in one place. I can&#039;t quite put it into words, but using section links for this purpose just feels...&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:55, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you try to put it in words? Because section links would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Ref notes would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to go to some text at the bottom of the page to tell you where to look in the middle of the page to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Seems like an unnecessary extra step. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:32, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the section link wouldn&#039;t make it very clear that it&#039;s showing you where the name is from. It looks like it&#039;s going to send you to a different page or something, then just sends you to a different section of the same page and hopes you figure out what&#039;s going on. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The ref note has an advantage in that it&#039;s already associated with addendums and citations. When the reader sees a ref note, they instantly know &amp;quot;this will show me some details about this bit of text&amp;quot;, while a link says &amp;quot;This is going to send me to another page&amp;quot;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 14:05, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::...I feel like the reader would have to be pretty stupid not to understand what the link was doing. &amp;quot;Slingshot is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Quickslinger&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; Click the link, see a toy of Slingshot called Quickslinger, with http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slingshot_(G1) still in the address bar. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:21, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Yeah, I guess you&#039;re probably right. Ref notes would only be absolutely necessary if an alternate name is used in multiple places. I&#039;d still rather use ref notes on all of them, but your way works just as well and it&#039;s not really worth arguing about any further. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:16, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@Foffy: I don&#039;t see a problem for the cases I&#039;ve mentioned, no, but I&#039;m not convinced my idea is best for cases where a character is regularly known by multiple names. For instance, how would this apply to Hot Rod&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Prime is also called Miscellaneous Maximus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:24, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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i do not feel compelled to create pages for [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Toxicity&amp;amp;diff=1096168&amp;amp;oldid=1072705 Scarytown] or [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Insecticon_%28WFC%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096169 Scurry Down], do you?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:10, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given that this character doesn&#039;t exist and he&#039;s telling the other injured Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down,&amp;quot; no, I don&#039;t. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Chris McFeely edit summary:  We went through this when the episode aired - he&#039;s telling the other Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks.  Can you link me to that discussion?  (Not finding it on [[Talk:Insecticon_(WFC)]] or [[Talk:Toxicity]], maybe the Community Portal archives?)  i have the DVD in my computer&#039;s disc drive right now and i really don&#039;t think he&#039;s saying &amp;quot;stay down&amp;quot;; i&#039;m quite sure i hear another syllable in the middle there.  (i also think Hardshell using the other Con&#039;s name makes more sense than telling him to stay down.)  But like i said, it&#039;s hard to make out what he&#039;s saying.  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there&#039;s even a discussion to link to, because editors just reverted anyone who tried to add it. He&#039;s not calling him &amp;quot;Scurrytown.&amp;quot; I&#039;m sorry, he&#039;s just not. It&#039;s the snarling voice Kaye uses. There&#039;s KIND of a &amp;quot;k-&amp;quot; sound in there, but there&#039;s no R. The Insecticon has just tried to get up, and Hardshell is telling it not to bother, and instead stay down and radio the ship. -  [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A suggestion to benefit the wiki ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey everyone. I&#039;ve noticed that this wiki lacks some templates that would be beneficial to have when it comes to linking articles. For example, if I want to link to the G1 Starscream page, I would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. That&#039;s sort of a pain to do. Over on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/ SmashWiki], we use some templates to cut down on the amount of text needed to do that kind of linking. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:SSB Here&#039;s an example].&lt;br /&gt;
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If we implemented this, one would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; if they wanted to link to that page. That cuts down on a lot of text.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this a good suggestion? Btw, I still think that pages such as [[Optimus Prime (WFC)]] should be called Optimus Prime (Aligned) instead. It makes &#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039; more sense to do it that way and would make this template process a bit easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Could be useful. But disambiguating by continuity family instead of franchise has been discussed to death and decided against repeatedly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know that it&#039;s a frequently argued topic, but I think it&#039;s more relevant than ever due to the fact that we have two franchises with the same name (RID). I mean, why are [[Steeljaw (RID)]] and [[Grimlock (RID)]] not characters from the same series? It makes no sense. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 14:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Part of the disambiguation by series, and not by continuity family, is because sometimes character names get re-used within a universe for different characters. For instance, we have [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] the Autobot lion, and Steeljaw the Decepticon wolf, both of whom exist in the Aligned universe. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:05, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The problem you&#039;re having is that you&#039;re expecting the disambig tags to convey information when that&#039;s not their actual job. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It&#039;s not? Wouldn&#039;t it be simpler then to just go numerical by appearance? Optimus Prime (1), Optimus Prime (2), etc? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:32, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Because then you&#039;d have to memorise a list of numbers in order to link to the Optimus Prime that you wanted? If disambig tags were supposed to be a source of information, every single article would have one. Their actual job is to avoid having articles named the same thing. The continuity note, i.e. the &#039;&#039;first sentence of every article&#039;&#039;, is the thing that&#039;s supposed to tell what franchise and continuity family a thing is from. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That. The current disambig tags exist to help editors remember who&#039;s who while saving us from having to type &amp;quot;(RID 2015)&amp;quot; over and over. Would you be able to tell me offhand who &amp;quot;Blackout III&amp;quot; is? They are ultimately an editing convenience and are not meant to convey every single detail about a character. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:12, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I can see how that would be a pain. I wasn&#039;t proposing that system, just trying to reconcile the idea that tags don&#039;t convey information.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So that case would move further down the hierarchy. How does that affect the idea of starting with continuity family? And it is completely ignoring the fact that the (RID) tags (and the (Universe) tags) are ambiguous in the real world sense. True, they may not be ambiguous in the narrow wiki definition, but to new and casual readers the fact that the exact same tag can refer to two different series is confusing. We should not be increasing real world ambiguity (&amp;quot;Which RID series is this again?&amp;quot;) just because it doesn&#039;t cause wiki-centric ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:15, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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oh my god you guys, &#039;&#039;&#039;no, stop&#039;&#039;&#039; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I feel like disambiguation tag debates should be definitively banned, to be honest. They just go into circles and nothing ever changes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:44, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Typing &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; also works, is only slightly longer than &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, and has the benefit of not including the overhead of expanding a template which adds processing time to any page when the site has to render it. That last one might not be a problem on a small wiki with only medium-sized pages like SmashWiki, but here it could be a big issue. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:22, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s great. I had no idea. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; kinda buried in the middle of [[Help:Editing]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, to anyone who actually contributed to the discussion, thanks for your input. I can see that this sort of template isn&#039;t really what this wiki is looking for, although I do think it would make things a little easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 23:40, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How to request main page changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi! I&#039;m fairly new here, so I&#039;m sorry if this is a silly question. The main page seems to be edit-locked except for admins, which is an excellent idea. However, I&#039;m used to having a place to request edits to locked pages - in this case, I&#039;d probably mostly be asking for updates to the Rescue Bots &amp;quot;newest episodes&amp;quot; list. Does this wiki have one? If yes, where? Thanks for answering! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 17:02, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers_Wiki:Tech|A Not So Brief Summary of the Horrible Things That McFly and Co. Have Done To Keep This Wiki From Melting Down]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m getting really sick of cleaning up fiction note templates, so, hey, here&#039;s an idea. Every single one from now on has to actually be brought up here before the community before it&#039;s implemented and not done willy-nilly by one person or a small group of editors. I realize that, as a wiki, we are going to inherently have continuity boners, but the recent trend of drowning character pages in notes is annoying and intrusive. The idea that we need to mention every point of continuity minutiae even in articles like fucking [[universal greeting]] is obnoxious and needs to &#039;&#039;stop&#039;&#039;. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree. Things like &amp;quot;Regeneration One is a continuation of the Marvel Comics continuity&amp;quot; don&#039;t need to be in the middle of character write-ups. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:30, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Marvel thing is a unique case that at least is relevant to character write ups—it tells readers that the Marvel UK stuff mixed into the Marvel US stuff doesn&#039;t count. (Of course, this only applies to articles that actually have sections for the original Marvel comics.) The text in the notes could stand to be trimmed down, though. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Do you have some other examples of unnecessary notes we could discuss specifically? I caught the 2001 Car Robots note you mentioned from [[universal greeting]], and I agree it&#039;s pointless unless there&#039;s actually an RiD vs. CR distinction to be made. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Wings, Classics, RG1 on pages without the continuity they&#039;re referring to. Ask Vector Prime. I&#039;m bringing this up now because we need to develop a better way of vetting templates that are theoretically going to be used on many pages. One or two &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; reponses on some hidden talk page most people don&#039;t notice shouldn&#039;t be used as a community-wide consensus on things that dramatically alter the reading experience across multiple pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And looking at the other stuff we have, Template:Notecmn could easily be made as part of the actual prose and flow more naturally that way, for example. (&amp;quot;In a divergent timeline, blahblah&amp;quot;). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:17, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And there&#039;s [[:Template:Notemoviebio]], which explains what is a regular occurrence in all of Transformers fiction for no real reason. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::A similar one is [[:Template:Notetitantlg]], which I tried to make pointless when we overhauled the movie character pages a while back and which I think we ditched &#039;&#039;most&#039;&#039; uses of, but is still out there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:22, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Not quite the same situation, but I&#039;d like to chime in that I&#039;m not a big fan of [[:Template:ongoing]]. Most of the time, editors completely forget to include it on the appropriate sections, it reiterates something that&#039;s obvious (&amp;quot;if there&#039;s information missing here, you should add it.&amp;quot;) and it&#039;s a note that only gets put up so that it can be eventually be taken down. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:27, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I agree that it&#039;s quite useless when we already have stub templates. Either information is missing or it isn&#039;t and people just leave it up on pages that really don&#039;t need it because it&#039;s not that noticeable. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:33, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Ehhhhhn. I&#039;m willing to let &amp;quot;ongoing&amp;quot; live, as, well, there&#039;s a TON of &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fictions and only a few currently-updating ones, and letting people know which ones are likely to actually &#039;&#039;continue&#039;&#039; and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative. &amp;quot;Stub&amp;quot; can mean &amp;quot;it came out already and no-one&#039;s bothered yet&amp;quot;, which is... different than &amp;quot;this cuts off because the scheduled continuation hasn&#039;t come out yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 08:12, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, if you find yourself overburdened with certain tasks, don&#039;t be afraid to ask for help. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks for taking care of the CR note. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No prob. As for the RG1 note, I agree that it would look nicer as a single line of text. I&#039;m having difficulty reducing it in length without leaving out something crucial though. I&#039;m putting it on the back-burner for now, but I&#039;ll keep it in mind. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:18, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Tried cutting it down a bit. The G2 bit was redundant. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Ah yes. Much better. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yeah, that&#039;s equally informative, but also far less intrusive. Nice work, Saix -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I just wanna say that I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who thinks we have too many goddamned templates. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:03, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Two templates for discussion: Template:TransformersComicMagazin and [[:Template:GIJoeTransformersfiction]]. Necessary or not? I feel like the former states what&#039;s already obvious by the fact that it&#039;s in its own section (&amp;quot;Comic-Magazin is not Marvel&amp;quot;), while I dunno about the latter. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Transformers Magazin could probably be done without. The {Gi joe transformers fiction} one, on the other hand, should probably be kept. With the way we use the {noteukonly} and generally treat the US and UK comics, I feel that we kinda need to point out &amp;quot;hey, unlike just about everything else from Marvel US, &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t actually fit into the Marvel UK &#039;verse.&amp;quot; -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Joe one is terrible. It&#039;s just plopped into the middle of fiction write-ups with no specification as to what text it refers to. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 16:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I can understand the &#039;&#039;purpose&#039;&#039;, but the execution just doesn&#039;t work at all. And I don&#039;t think it belongs on the issue pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:06, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
===Collapsable continuity notes?===&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t do much fiction-section work anymore, but if I can identify part of the problem &#039;&#039;with the fiction itself&#039;&#039;... unlike most franchises, TFs has a metric fuckton of &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; divergent splinter timelines. I mean, how many different Marvel G1 comic timeline spinoffs do we have now that don&#039;t actually relate to each other? It can be difficult at first look of a page to tell the difference between a series of proper, one-timeline sequel-series and, well, the clusterfuck that is post-Marvel-G1-related stuff branching out like a hydra. So I&#039;m loathe to just run with the &amp;quot;well everyone reading thew wiki should know this&amp;quot; mentality.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So,  can see &#039;&#039;why&#039;&#039; the templates began, but when we started getting more and more branches? A bit out of hand. And worse, it&#039;s not quite a thing the base wiki organization tools are good at adapting and making obvious. (Frankly I find it tricky to tell sometimes the difference between a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;===&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection and a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;====&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;-subsection, but that&#039;s another quibble for later).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think a good amount of this can be mitigated with some creative rewriting of the sections&#039; openings, &amp;quot;ten years after the battle of Klo&amp;quot; or whatnot. And certainly that doesn&#039;t even need to be brought up if it&#039;s just a one-off page of a piece of minor technology from one issue of a spinoff. But for larger pages with a buttload of timeline-fragments?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We might want to look into collapsible Notes. Just a single template that can be adapted not just for this, but, well, for anything. Whack it up top, collapsed, have it say &amp;quot;Continuity Note: (more)&amp;quot; (not as a default), then people can click on it and see &amp;quot;well this continuity branches off from blardeeblar and has no relation to blardeeblar&amp;quot;. This way the clutter is minimal, the information on our confusing mess of fiction is right at the fingertips.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just a thought.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This sounds useful. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I love this idea. Collapsable notes could solve a lot of the problems we&#039;ve been having with the templates as of late. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just took a brief look at the voiceactor template, since that does basically what I&#039;m looking at, and even that template&#039;s workings are beyond my ability to understand and adapt into a collapsible Note. So um. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It depends how you want it to work. Something like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1|text 2}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; to produce:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1 &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 2&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Or just &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cnote|text 1}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;tt1_graynote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;ocreditspan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;text 1&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::It wouldn&#039;t be difficult to knock either of those templates up --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Expanding off of what Emvee posted here, I&#039;ve worked up a collapsible note template which can display a custom header, custom visible text and hideable text that is either custom or derived from a preset name. The first draft, examples and documentation can be found here: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Template:CollapseNote]]. All critiques are welcome. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 18:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Is there a way to put that in a gray box so it matches with the rest of our Notes? I think this has legs. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:49, 9 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::D&#039;oh! There is. In fact, I actually did have the box but the CSS for it is only available in my personal CSS file at the moment. I&#039;ll go integrate that into the template itself for now, then once this is approved maybe it can be moved to a site wide CSS file to reduce template clutter.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:40, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Okay, the CSS is now included in the template so users besides myself can see the gray box. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:50, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I love it. Nice work, Tigerpaw. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 03:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I&#039;ll stick the css in the common file when everyone&#039;s happy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of notes and templates, can we also scrub the IDW notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]] was shorter than it should&#039;ve been because [[Simon Furman]] was fired.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; and the Dreamwave notes that say &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Because Dreamwave collapsed, plot threads were left dangling.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;...unless those notes are &#039;&#039;specifically&#039;&#039; contributing something to the character&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d say yes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:16, 15 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More Prominence for IDW ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to propose a change, because the above discussion reminded me of something I find annoying -- the position of IDW in the Fiction sections. At this point, I believe IDW is the longest running continuous fiction in Transformers history. Yet while the 30 year cartoon and Marvel Comic are easy to pick out due to their position at the top or their multitude of subcategories, IDW is typically found near the bottom of the list, nestled in between Japanese micro-continuities, Sticker Adventures and, god help us, &#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Is there a better configuration we could work with? I&#039;d be supportive of a &amp;quot;Major Fiction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Minor Fiction&amp;quot; breakdown for the traditional &amp;quot;Fiction&amp;quot; section, if we could all peacefully agree to what counts as Major and Minor. Another thought I had was to do away with the &#039;&#039;Ongoing Fiction Template&#039;&#039;, and just have &amp;quot;Ongoing Fiction&amp;quot; automatically at the top and &amp;quot;Previous Fiction&amp;quot; underneath.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Any of this sound worth looking into more? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Absolutely friggin&#039; not, never or ever.  Organizing fiction due to perceived prominence is counter to the very spirit this wiki was founded on.  (It&#039;s also amazingly subjective and would be a headache to argue over indefinitely.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:36, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wasn&#039;t that the point of changing the disambiguation pages though? So that the more prominent stuff was at the top and had pictures to help people? [[User:Omegatron|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That kind of potential slippery-sloping was why I had misgivings about that change in the first place.  But Disambig pages are navigation pages, and articles are not, and I have faith that we can recognize the different needs for pages according to their utility and not just make everything the same just because it makes our brains feel superficially happier.  But let me put it this way: Imagine Grapple&#039;s page.  In a &amp;quot;we put IDW first because it&#039;s important&amp;quot; world, a dinky subsection in which he appears in the background twice is given precedence over a Big Looker storybook in which he is a major character.  IDW isn&#039;t always super important to a character&#039;s page just because its fiction&#039;s gone on a decade!  And here&#039;s the kicker -- for those folks who&#039;ve appeared a buttload in IDW, those sections are split off into their own subpages and navigation at the very top of the page leads you right there, effectively already giving everyone this proposed functionality.  And without losing the information of real-world chronological release order that levels the canonicity playing field, I might add.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. The disambiguation page thing wasn&#039;t something brought up on a whim. It&#039;s not a thing I&#039;d propose for any other &amp;quot;type&amp;quot; of page, because disambig pages serve a different purpose than almost every other. That requires some special consideration. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:15, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, no, no, no and no, with a side order of no and no for dessert. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just throwing this out there as an alternative suggestion to moving the sections around: what do people think of the idea of bolding major sections in the table of contents, so for Optimus you&#039;d end up with something [[:File:Contents bold test.jpg|like this]]. For the sake of preventing arguments we&#039;d reserve it for the really prominent G1 continuities (G1 and BW cartoons, Marvel, IDW and possibly Dreamwave comics), since it&#039;s not generally a problem for other continuity families. I&#039;m thinking this could be done very simply in CSS without having to edit a ton of pages, though it would mean that characters with only an IDW fiction section would have it bolded in their contents listing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s got some potential, I think. I don&#039;t think single-fiction character with bold in their TOC would be a problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:48, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This ties into an old proposal from way back that I&#039;d also found in my Community Portal re-read, and was brought up on Allspark (and I&#039;d briefly mentioned here recently); the visual differences between subheaders are really quite minimal. It&#039;s hard to tell at a look where one continuity-line ends and the other begins. there&#039;s got to be something we can do just &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;visually&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; to make these divisions easier to identify by sight. Can we make the header-text for continuity-breaks centered? If we wanna get fancy, can we make a graphic the header? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:47, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Okay, apparently you [[User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Fiction_header_experiment|CAN center section headers]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did some experimenting and [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|found a way to do this]]. Requires a little bit of HTML/CSS inside the header but easily doable I think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 23:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Since the initial concern, at least, was IDW, can someone sandbox a G1 character with an IDW section to see how that might look? [[Pipes (G1)]] seems like a good candidate, since he&#039;s got a good-sized IDW section that also isn&#039;t so big it should just be a subpage. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve grown pretty iffy on using images as headers, honestly. There&#039;s a lotta &amp;quot;standalone&amp;quot; timelines that don&#039;t really have logos and having only SOME major headers be logo images... ehhhhhn. Might be best to just stick with text, maybe a thin bar above, with a wiki-wide change to a thicker tier-1-header-bar. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually? Second thoughts, no. This would likely start too many arguments. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another proposal after I had a thought just now: [[:File:H3 dashed overlines.jpg|dashed overlines]]. The difference should be enough to differentiate from the underlines on h2s, and they nicely group together related stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 26 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Goal Of The Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
(slight editing of something I posted to the Allspark&#039;s wiki thread)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little while back I decided to rummage through the Community Portal archives... from the beginning. The earliest stages, when we were hammering out how to lay out the damn pages, what we should disambiguate by, etc. Saw the suggestions for making information more readily-accessible (character appearance tables, the GO! Box, the navigation templates), the &amp;quot;common wiki&amp;quot; practices we rejected because they just could not apply to this franchise (character infoboxes, for example, thanks to the many many many bodies the characters could have), up through the big move away from Wikia when they started really fucking us over with their ads.&lt;br /&gt;
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And during that lonnnnng string of arguments with Wikia staff, when we tried (repeatedly) to explain why this &amp;quot;only not-signed-in readers will see the ads so why are you complaining since you don&#039;t see the page-ruining ads see this will somehow make money!&amp;quot; thing was utter bullshit...&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Re-read that. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;RE-FUCKING-READ THAT.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The wiki lost that mentality somewhere. At some point in the last few years, the wiki stopped being about the readers, what would make the vast ocean of material accessible and entertaining to them. It became a micro-minutia-based circlejerk. It became editors confusing anal-retentive busywork (based on the strictest interpretation of rules that always were meant to be applied with a slight degree of malleability because our subject matter absolutely HAS to be handled that way) with productive and useful updating. And with the advent of the Facebook AVP, it became &amp;quot;gee now I can make Real Transformers wheeeeee&amp;quot; with even more micro-minutia and bad-faith gaming of the canon policy that was originally meant to give equal space to the obscure so we wouldn&#039;t have the &amp;quot;prominence = more deserving&amp;quot; mentality (plus stuff very specifically made to create circumstances to middle-finger policies that have served us well for a decade prior).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, people who&#039;ve worked for a decade to make the wiki something huge and special and a wiki other fandoms look at and go &amp;quot;holy shit, we need something like this&amp;quot; find themselves frustrated and edging away as the spirit of the whole thing turns into this sour, solipsistic nigh-gatekeepery up-its-own-ass wank festival, especially when certain subjects just won&#039;t. Goddamn. STOP.&lt;br /&gt;
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From one of our newest regulars:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Hell, I&#039;ve only had to deal with one day of GoBots discussion and I&#039;m already sick of it! I can&#039;t even begin to imagine what it must be like to deal with this shit on multiple different occasions over the course of several years, but I bet it&#039;s unpleasant.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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So when I see &amp;quot;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;why don&#039;t we rename every character in the Japanese-fiction writeups to their Japanese names&amp;quot;, yeah, I&#039;m gonna respond harsher because it&#039;s kind of hit that point where we have to start bringing the hammer down hard to keep this thing even remotely accessible to anyone who isn&#039;t fully engaged in the minutia of TFdom.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think wiki editors (and others) need to stop and have a good think about WHY they&#039;re doing what they&#039;re doing, and who they&#039;re actually doing it for, and, ultimately, if they should actually be doing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s an important difference between &amp;quot;can&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;should&amp;quot;, and too many don&#039;t see it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;look i already apologised for the japanese name thing okay&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, said, though, and you&#039;ve given me something to think about. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because of recent events, I wasn&#039;t expecting anyone to jump for joy, but this is a bit much. First of all, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;hey why don&#039;t we move IDW sections up because I think it&#039;s more important&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; is reductive and dismissive to the facts on the table and the argument I presented. IDW being &amp;quot;ongoing fiction&amp;quot; isn&#039;t my subjective opinion, it&#039;s a fact. It&#039;s also the longest running mass-market fiction not only ongoing right now, but also in Transformers history. So I&#039;m not some weebo saying, &amp;quot;I like Japan, so other people must want Japan to be more prominent, too.&amp;quot; (no offense, Riptide -- just for the argument) We were discussing a case of &#039;&#039;factual&#039;&#039; prominence, not the &amp;quot;perceived prominence&amp;quot; just inside my own silly head.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And I don&#039;t need &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; repeated back to me because it was you, M &amp;quot;Not lovin&#039; this idea&amp;quot; Sipher I was thinking of, saying those very words, which made me think this was a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Maybe we have different ideas about what casual readers are, but I think of them as new/returning fans who came here because of some ongoing fiction they just saw, and might like to learn more about. If they&#039;re watching &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039;, that&#039;s cool -- most of those character pages are traceable by (RID) or (RB) disambigs, which is simple enough to figure out. And their Fiction box sections are (mostly) minimal enough to glance over and find what you wanted.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But what about the comics? Well, first they have to know IDW is Generation 1, which isn&#039;t exactly on the cover of the comics. Then they have to know the Fiction section on a character&#039;s page is organized by release date. You and I know that, but is that rule actually posted in a FAQ somewhere so we could expect a casual reader to know it? The way Sunbow and Marvel subdivide on most pages, a casual reader could be forgiven for thinking the most prominent stuff is &#039;&#039;already&#039;&#039; on the top. And even assuming they&#039;re visiting the Wiki on a full-screen computer and not a mobile device, for the 1987 guys or earlier &amp;quot;IDW Generation 1 continuity&amp;quot; is likely going to be &amp;quot;below the fold&amp;quot;. And if you made it to the end of this paragraph thinking TL;DR, imagine the casual reader going through this in real time. THAT was who I was thinking of when I suggested the Ongoing Fiction content that the casual reader might be looking for when they come here &#039;&#039;be easier to find somehow&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m not &#039;&#039;trying&#039;&#039; to throw your words back at you, M Sipher, but again it honestly was a post you made this week defending the Ongoing Fiction Template that made me think of this. You said, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;letting people know which ones are likely to actually continue and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. But the current razor-thin, World&#039;s Smallest Template Note doesn&#039;t really accomplish that. A casual reader may stumble across it by accident, if they squint, or they&#039;ll find it if they&#039;re already looking for it, but that&#039;s it. Floating Ongoing Fiction to the top of the Fiction sections negates the need for the template, lets new readers find what they were most likely looking for more easily, and those Fictions can just as easily be shuffled back down into &#039;release date order &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; fiction&#039; once they are no longer ongoing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If this was a bad idea, fine. But maybe you could provide me a definition of &amp;quot;casual reader friendly&amp;quot;, because obviously my &#039;&#039;WWMSD?&#039;&#039; bracelet doesn&#039;t help when I&#039;m too stupid to know the answer. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:09, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There&#039;s a Table of Contents at the top of just about every character page. The wiki software even &#039;&#039;automatically&#039;&#039; makes a TOC if a page has enough subsections. That TOC has &amp;quot;IDW continuity&amp;quot; in it, which links directly to said subsection. Easy.&lt;br /&gt;
::Your proposal is nothing but arguments waiting to happen over what&#039;s &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot;, to become more arguments over which &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; fiction takes prominenece over the other &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; (comics or cartoons?) with no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039;. It is furniture-shuffling. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not to put words in Sipher&#039;s mouth, but I don&#039;t think the main idea he&#039;s putting across is &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; about your proposal, Xaaron, you&#039;ve just said it at a moment in time in which we are seeing a lot of what Sipher describes (but trying to dub something &amp;quot;more important&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; lead to arguments - I remember way back when when people would complain we were putting the Marvel comic ahead of the cartoon). To repost something I&#039;ve also said on the Allspark - which I don&#039;t consider to relate to your proposal, Xaaron - I have been saying for a long time in private conversation what Sipher is saying now, and several months ago, I tried to explain how we&#039;re basically responsible for breeding this attitude into our readers. It&#039;s the same attitude that caused the AVP brouhaha - we are seeing editors now openly state that the wiki has been a gateway to a lot of this stuff for them, and that they have fixated on the minutiae and the continuity-fondling, which is such a small part of what Transformers, and the wiki, is about that it&#039;s the wrong lesson to come away with. Wiki projects ATTRACT those with mindsets focused on categorization, organization, and pattern-observation. It took years before we had editors who were able to reconcile that way of thinking with our &amp;quot;and also fun!&amp;quot; approach, but they now exist, and are more interested in trying to make sure all the headers are precisely the same, that everything is in exactly the right continuity-order and header-structure and category, that all the disambigs are exact - that absolutely everything fits into its little imaginary box, and that nothing breaks the rules by coming out of its box unless there&#039;s a seventeen-week debate about it first. ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT, but - with the greatest of actual respect to our new editors, because it is thankless hugging busywork and its impressive that you&#039;re dedicated to it - as Sipher says, this &amp;quot;moving of the furniture&amp;quot; is all that newer-guard editors actually seem to want to do, or to be capable of doing. It&#039;s very, very easy to paste a one-or-two sentence nugget of information from AVP into the wiki, which is why so many people do it and why it got so out of control - but you don&#039;t see anyone falling over themselves to add Spacewarp&#039;s Log stuff, even before the two-week delay, because it&#039;s not presented in nugget form, it&#039;s a piece of prose that you&#039;d actually have to - shock, horror - read and summarize, and - oh christ no - it&#039;s NOT full of references to pre-existing things so you can&#039;t just paste it into existing articles or throw the AVP stub template in. When - just for a recent example - I can go to the article of a major character like Ironhide or Thundercracker and still find tons of material that needs filling in, that says &amp;quot;it doesn&#039;t matter that it&#039;s been ten years, there is a lot more important work to do than making sure that header is a level 2 or a level 3 one.&amp;quot; - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I just want to be clear that people who take the time to do &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; like, say, fixing links so they no longer lead to a redirect page are &#039;&#039;unquestionably welcome to&#039;&#039;. That&#039;s good, that has a tangible benefit to our wiki (reducing server load). That kind of &amp;quot;busywork&amp;quot; is &#039;&#039;absolutely&#039;&#039; okay. It&#039;s the seemingly-endless stream of talks about reorganizing hundreds of pages, arguments over disambigs, and yeah, the &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; trivia-nugget work that&#039;s grinding here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I get the concern over the AVP-inspired editors, and even counseled Giggidy about this very issue above. In hindsight, I probably should&#039;ve waited for the dust to settle more on the GoBots matter before suggesting something similar for different reasons, but like I said, the idea was sparked by the above discussion about the Ongoing Template.&lt;br /&gt;
:And I completely agree that a Major/Minor Fiction split would likely lead to more arguments than benefits, which is why I also proposed Ongoing/Not Ongoing. That&#039;s completely binary and objective. It&#039;s not subject to debate over which fiction is &amp;quot;More Ongoing&amp;quot; than another.&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree that the IDW links above the main character images remove any need for my proposal...for the characters who have them. My concern rested with characters like Jazz or Soundwave who do not have IDW subpages, and that continuity is 21 or 24 listings down on their Fiction TOCs, nestled between things like &#039;&#039;Q-Robo&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039;. But, as I believe Chip suggested on the Allspark, a way to resolve all this is to just be more lenient with allowing IDW subpages in the first place. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too proposed that. Is there a specific reason why that tab system isn&#039;t more prominent. Heck, maybe it would even work for stuff like the Marvel and Sunbow cartoons. Those tabs are a simple and brilliant way to get our readers to what they are looking for. A casual coming here after googling say &amp;quot;Prowl Transformers&amp;quot; needs to be sent to were they need to be efficiently as possible.  A page tab on his page header right at the top with IDW staring you in the face ks a good solution that doesn&#039;t deal with any of the parliamentary bojangling that&#039;s been such a hot topic lately[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 01:25, 14 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Continuity Stream Bullshit==&lt;br /&gt;
I suggested this on the Allspark, and there&#039;s some momentum for it so I&#039;ll put it here.&lt;br /&gt;
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As M Sipher said above, arbitrary furniture movement is bad. That said, all the continuity stream minutae is even worse, and serves only to bloat our pagecount with duplicated information in articles that will only ever be stubs forever. Why do both [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] and [[The Transformers (issue)]] exist? Or [[Marvel Comics continuity]] if you think the continuity is more important than what the Universal Stream indicator actually decodes to, although if there weren&#039;t significant opposition I&#039;d argue that since the stream encoding to a piece of fiction is a 1:1 mapping that we should respect that directly.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since a Universal Stream page will not contain any useful information other than its actual stream indicator (and VERY occasionally some detail such as &amp;quot;this universe is destroying another one&amp;quot;), I&#039;d like to propose that all universal stream pages either be redirected to the actual single piece of fiction that the stream indicator decodes to, or to the Continuity timeline page that best describes it - and somewhere on **that** page we try and find a place for the universal stream number. Perhaps in the same fashion we originally handled alternate names - directly below the introductory paragraph, in bold?&lt;br /&gt;
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If this causes problems, feel free to disregard... but I&#039;ve heard enough discontent about the matter and there&#039;s been enough push for it there that I feel confident enough to put my next foot forward on this happening. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:32, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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My proposal is that rather than stream pages, major continuities would all get pages. a Marvel g1 universe page, a sunbow cartoon universe a Classicsverse page and so on. Then, stream numbers used in universe would be redirect to those pages. Minor streams would get redirected to the current list pages we have now; AVP additions to minor streams would go in notes on the works main page. (For example, Ulchtar would go in the notes of that videogame)[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:51, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noted that the already existing Universal Stream pages could be converted into continuity pages in some instances , http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Classicsverse could be simply renamed &amp;quot;Classics Continuity/Universe&amp;quot; for example[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:07, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not seeing how universal streams are logically any different than random crap namedropped without context in stories all the time. [[Pralmtzurlz VI]], [[Vaulted Heights of K&#039;th Kinsere]], and [[Payload of General Frightening]] have less content than most universe pages. There also isn&#039;t really a way to effectively have real-world information and then fictional universe information on the same article; [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]] isn&#039;t going to look any better if you put all of the [[To Die Game!]] stuff on it. (Primax 984.0 Gamma is also not limited to &amp;quot;The Transformers&amp;quot;, so, uh, what?) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The difference is those pages are not wholly redundant. For example, yeah, maybe the city &amp;quot;Gygax&amp;quot; only got mentioned offhand in one story. But as it gets a page, it goes in the Category listing of &amp;quot;Cybertron cities&amp;quot; (or whatever it&#039;s actually called) and then when, oh, say, a TV cartoon writer wants to look up cities for references...&lt;br /&gt;
::In other words, BAM, the whole reason we did this wiki. The obscure was given an outlet, and it got used again. And this is far from the only instance.&lt;br /&gt;
::But this is not a functionality that serves any real purpose for the named Streams. You need to know the code to make any sense of them, at which point you can easily make up a code for any piece of fiction that exists. And &#039;&#039;every piece of Transformers fiction that exists IS canonically its own universe&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; simultaneously wholly-subsumed parts of other universes, because of quantum (read: pseudoscience arglebargle translation of a meta-based concept with no real defined rules because we, and I literally mean WE as in me and Trent, made it all up and jesus on a tilt-a-whirl some people think way too hard and too rigidly about this). All these pages do is create a hoop for people to jump through unnecessarily. We don&#039;t need the pagecount bloat.&lt;br /&gt;
::If people are REALLY concerned about stuff not from, say, that one storybook that some FunPub gag-strip or Facebook post placed some wacky new event, then there is a simple solution. NOTES SECTION. One bullet point is really all you need in the overwhelming majority of cases. Something else, a subsection under notes called, oh, &amp;quot;Use in Other Fictions&amp;quot; will cover it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, the &amp;quot;club fiction adds a bunch of stuff to some random micro-continuity&amp;quot; scenario is really the only one where the stream pages are even remotely good for anything - the Shell Game/Megazarak universe springs to mind - and in those cases it is potentially useful to have the info from a bunch of separate AVP things (or whatever) collected.  But as you say, Sipher, that kind of thing could happily live in the notes section of the fiction article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::From a group complaining about &amp;quot;moving the furniture around&amp;quot;, there sure have been a lot of suggestions recently about deleting a lot of pages and taking all the info in them and putting them onto slightly harder-to-find pages. I&#039;m not even sure I have an opinion on this proposal, but the observation struck me as odd. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Context is important, and the context here is bandwidth issues and reader experience. Those are fucking important. Every time we bounce a reader to another page, that&#039;s another tick on our sever, and these pages are, as noted, almost wholly redundant info when we could send them to a page that has the whole thing. And you&#039;re gonna sit there and claim that a listing of made-up words and number gibberish is somehow easier for a reader to use than just putting the relevant information on a page titled in plain English they&#039;re &#039;&#039;vastly&#039;&#039; more likely to find on their own. Okay, sure, whatever. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:17, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think at the very least, there&#039;s little reason to argue that stream indicators for major continuities shouldn&#039;t just redirect to the continuity page, i.e. [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] to [[Marvel Comics continuity]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let me put this another way... the stream pages feel akin to having a page for &amp;quot;Khrapovik&amp;quot; then listing only the things &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Ratchet did in the Russian comics on it. Again, &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; a different universe, sure, but it&#039;s part of the bigger universe and splitting it out really only obfuscates info in the name of pedantry, and it&#039;s just better off folding it into the main. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That makes a lot of sense to me. This might be one of those situations where we want to use flexibility. If there is a continuity page that already exists, maybe the redirect goes there and we have a fiction section. If there&#039;s a universal stream and little else, maybe that can just go away. And if there&#039;s a lot of information about the stream, maybe we just keep it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So should we start compiling solutions for wn eventual vote. I&#039;m behind the idea of replacing stream pages with pages for the continuity.  In fact I think a good way to deal with extra Avp infor is to use are already existing arrow system. Thede added storiee are just like,say Regeneration One added to the end of Marvel US in a way, so for example. Mystery of the Convoy would get an arrow that goes to To Die Game, Shell Game would get an extra a avp write up detail.&lt;br /&gt;
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But over all I am for us having Continuity pages instead of streams.  Like was said above we don&#039;t need Primax Whatever Gamma AND Marvel US continuity pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate names==&lt;br /&gt;
When we mention a character&#039;s alternate names (i.e, on X&#039;s page, we note that &amp;quot;he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Y&#039;&#039;&#039;), there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly &#039;&#039;where&#039;&#039; we do it. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grapple_(G1)&amp;amp;oldid=1043677 Some pages]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: Grapple&#039;s alternate name has been moved to the bio, so the link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; place such information near the top in the continuity note, whereas [[Octane|others]] put it at the end of the opening paragraph. Is there a policy on this? I don&#039;t particularly care one way or the other, I&#039;d just like to see them made consistent. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I prefer them to be in the top rather than in the bio.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:54, 17 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The continuity notes are cluttered enough already. Put them at the end of the bio. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think, barring the unusual case of an obscure alternate name that is seldom used, the end of the continuity note is the ideal place. But I&#039;m not sure consistency is absolutely necessary, as long as the information is conveyed in an appropriate way.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:14, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I concur with Saix. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I prefer the end of the intro over the continuity note.  It leaves more room for multiple names (in case a character has 2 or more alternate names) and also makes room for context (like, when and where and why is the character sometimes called by that other name). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I prefer the end of the intro as well. Take a look at [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hot_Rod&amp;amp;oldid=1046644 Hot Rod]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(EDIT: as of 18:11, 20 January 2016 (EST), they&#039;ve been moved into the bio. The link goes to an older revision for clarity.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;He has all his names in the continuity note, and it&#039;s a mess. If we&#039;re going to pick just one way to do it (and I think we should), it should be at the end of the intro. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You&#039;ve convinced me that the intro is a smarter spot. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
How about [[Vector Prime]]&#039;s alternate names? He&#039;s never made a solid appearance using any of them, so should they be in both the intro and in the AVP story section? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:23, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: That feels like a great place to make an exception and only list them in the fiction section or the notes.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:44, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Convoy is also called Miscellaneous Magnus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names_links|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:25, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Parodies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should have one page that lists notable parodies and stuff. Just to get them out of the way. [[User:HarbringerOfDoom|HarbringerOfDoom]] ([[User talk:HarbringerOfDoom|talk]]) 08:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:They&#039;re already out of the way, by virtue of being not on this wiki. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I noticed recently that the other place has started listing stuff like characters&#039; appearances on &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Robot Chicken&#039;&#039; in their main profiles, which gives us even more reason not to. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can see the appeal, but I suspect it would quickly get out of hand. Transformers gets referenced in a lot of pop culture. Every show, movie, and Web comic is somebody&#039;s favorite, so I suspect any such page would quickly become an unbearably long and tedious list. So what would that leave us with? A page saying Transformers often shows up in pop culture? I&#039;m not sure there&#039;s any value to that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:13, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You guys have got to just be doing this on purpose now. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I will get myself banned before I will allow this wiki to cover Family Guy and Robot Chicken. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Like, a thousand times no. I believe similar discussions have been had in the past, and the answer was a resounding no. (I can&#039;t find that particular discussion at the moment; I&#039;ll post it here if I find it.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::We have episodes of cartoons and issues of comics that are stubs and primary character articles that need to have their fiction sections filled out, but ok, yeah.  Let&#039;s start pedantically listing every time &#039;&#039;Family Guy&#039;&#039; has referenced Transformers.  That should be a priority. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**Condescending Wonka image**&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
The only page that would make sense (to me) while keeping in line with the spirit for this wiki is a simple list of times that official product was used in movies and television.&lt;br /&gt;
*This toy was in such and such movie in year 19XX. &lt;br /&gt;
*Transformers episode so&#039;n&#039;so was seen the background of movie in year 200X.&lt;br /&gt;
*A number of toys were shown featured in McTV show in episode whatzitz.&lt;br /&gt;
References are out. Parodies are out, and it&#039;s only a single page as to not clutter up the rest (similar to what we do with unofficial Transformers guides.) --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 02:36, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I really don&#039;t see any potential benefit to that. Are we going to make a page full of stuff like &amp;quot;Some G1 toys showed up in &#039;&#039;Flight of the Navigator&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and stuff like that? Why? It&#039;s pointless, and it would just open the floodgates for more of the same pointless crap, not to mention how bloated and useless it would be. Before long, people will use that page as an argument for including bullshit from Family Guy and the Chevy commercial with the car that turns into a robot and god knows what else. Information about references to &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; in other media is something for Wikipedia to cover. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is there a category for images from the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we have a category for all the images posted on the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; Facebook pages like [[Ask Vector Prime]], [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]], etc? As I&#039;ve been going through the [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|uncategorized images]], I&#039;ve noticed that quite a few of them are from those Facebook pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can&#039;t seem to find any kind of technical place to post this, so I&#039;m just going to post it here in the hopes of getting some attention. For some reason, I&#039;ve been locked out of the site; trying to access the website on either of my main computers results in a white page and an &amp;quot;ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved&amp;quot; message. I&#039;ve tried clearing my cache, deleting cookies, all that stuff (I can still post on my phone). I suspect that it&#039;s some kind of internal server problem (I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve done anything to break the wiki on my end), but I&#039;m not sure? Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:09, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:That might have been me being too zealous with the spam blocking. I&#039;ll send you an email shortly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:36, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thank you! I will see if it works. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did you get the email? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:14, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: sorry for the late response, it got put into junk mail. Clicking the link just takes me to a blocked site. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:43, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::OK, I think you should now be unblocked. Give it another try! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:57, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: It worked! Many thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:03, 28 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::No problem - sorry about that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:05, 29 February 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Facebook-exclusive characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
Given the copious quantity of characters debuted through the Tornado and TransTech Facebook pages who have no toys and have yet to appear in any other fiction, would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;Facebook-only characters&amp;quot; subcategory of &amp;quot;Fiction-only characters&amp;quot;? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:59, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Not a bad idea. I&#039;d also be down for &amp;quot;Online-media exclusive characters&amp;quot; or something along those lines. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:15, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, that sounds worthwhile. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Furthering the use of list articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at Chris McFeely&#039;s [[User:Chris_McFeely/Sandbox:ListofRenegades|sandbox]] for the GoBots list article, I think that maybe similar list articles would be a nice way to handle some of the minor Shattered Glass and Kre-O characters. Pages like [[Broadside (SG)]] are rather useless, and I think that consolidating such pages into a list article would lead to a better reader experience. (To save us from pointless page moves, I would suggest just turning the old pages into a redirect to the list article, keeping all the categories.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:38, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Would you care to elaborate on that? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:20, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We only used a list for GoBots as a compromise for the endless debate. Applying that concept to inarguable Transformers characters is senseless and leads to more arguments over what counts for a list and what doesn&#039;t. You&#039;re just causing more inconsistency and headaches for no benefit. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:39, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I still hate the list pages for Gobots, I don&#039;t want to have to spread it further. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:25, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lists are not ideal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Fair enough. It was just a thought -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sick Of Arguing About GoBots II ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== RID Kre-O ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since we&#039;re unlikely to get any more Kre-O fiction, and all of the RID Kre-O articles are pretty sparse in content, maybe they should just be merged to the main RID character articles? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:27, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ll be honest, I&#039;m not averse to this at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:13, 8 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I guess nobody&#039;s really opposed to this or cares, so I&#039;ll go ahead and do it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
After looking through the Kre-O pages... I feel like the comic-only cameos should all just be merged to whatever they&#039;re referencing. After merging all of the Iocus crap, it feels right to do the same to articles that are pretty much just &amp;quot;BWII Galvatron, but as a Kreon&amp;quot;. They&#039;re very specific references removed from their context for really no good reason. Maybe not a popular suggestion, but throwing it out there. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:50, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So long as it doesn&#039;t mess around with characters that freely switch between different incarnations of themselves, or are composite homages that can&#039;t be neatly classified. I can&#039;t think of any way those could be neatly merged into another page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:10, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I&#039;m mostly focusing on unique characters (Fractyl, Atari, Tarn, etc.) and not the big archetypes like Optimus or Bumblebee. Most characters with toys will be left alone. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m extremely cool with this. Never been big fan of giving them individual articles in the first place. Like, honestly, in a more organized world where this stuff hadn&#039;t been created on an incremental basis, &amp;quot;Fornax&amp;quot; almost certainly wouldn&#039;t be a thing and it&#039;d all be Iocus. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, no real objection, if a tepid &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot;. I mean, I&#039;m not really convinced that Kreons based on existing characters who DO have toys but no fiction (like a hefty chunk of the &amp;quot;Class&amp;quot; sets) really need to be split out. A page from Kreon Topspin seems... overly redundant. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:29, 9 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;m looking around more and it seems like there&#039;s only a select few that couldn&#039;t be encompassed by their main versions. Most of the Class series is guilty of that, but there&#039;s also lots of Kreons based on one-shot characters ([[Wingspan Hawk]], [[Barrage (Kre-O)]]). We have a lot of pages that are just &amp;quot;this exists and is obviously this other thing&amp;quot; from both the toyline and the comic. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:39, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You probably are doing this, but be sure to add the &amp;quot;Kreons&amp;quot; category and such when condensing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ehhh... I disagree. I mean, the Kreon Class ones, sure, but I&#039;m less certain on What about the likes of the [[Soundwave&#039;s Trap? Stop Operation Brainwash Humanity!|Soundwaves and Convoys]] and [[Enter the New Emperor of Destruction!? Stop Galvatron&#039;s Rampage!|Starscreams]]? I&#039;d probably vote strong &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the Class of 84/5 guys, weak &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot; to merging the fictionless Kreons (and maybe the non-Transformer comic cameos, I don&#039;t know), but a strong &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; to anyone who was actually in the comic. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 06:55, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::We do have a couple of examples where character pages have sections that cover more than one character already. The Masterforce transtectors and the BeCool cartoon come to mind. Does it really serve anything to give those tiny one-panel cameos in a referential comic their own pages? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::As I&#039;ve noted before, there comes a point where we&#039;re just being pointlessly pedantic, making people jump through hoops (and incrementally hitting our bandwidth limits) for... no actual &#039;&#039;benefit&#039;&#039; near as I can tell. Seriously. What&#039;s the benefit? What is the purpose? &amp;quot;Consistency&amp;quot;? Sorry, this franchise has grown and mutated too big for us to try and cram everything into no-exceptions rules. We HAVE to be flexible and make exceptions in some places, and when it comes to overly-redundant pages, that&#039;s where I&#039;m more than willing to make exceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m down with low-content one-pages for one-panel &#039;&#039;unique&#039;&#039; characters to be certain, like the Hideous Brain Guy, but for Basically The Well-Known G1 Character But In Brick Form? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Should we merge &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Soundblaster (Kre-O)]] into [[Soundblaster (G1)]]?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Their colors aren&#039;t exactly the same, but they&#039;re both black repaint clones of the main Soundwave. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:02, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, whatever. If another independent G1 Soundblaster pops up, that&#039;s probably where they&#039;re going anyway. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
So what are we doing about &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; toys who unambiguously represent a single established character? Back on March 25, Sipher undid the merger of &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; [[Ravage (Kre-O)|Ravage]], but on May 5, Chris merged &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; Megaplex. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:25, 15 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Informing new users of the recent anti-spam measures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Slight re-editing of something I posted on the Allspark) I think we may need to put something in [[Template:Welcome|the welcome template]] and/or on [[Main Page/editing-tips|Main Page/editing-tips]] about how new users are unable to create pages because of all the spam stuff; it seems to be [[User talk:Foffy the Sheep#Extreme Editing Difficulties|confusing some people]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:45, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve just reduced the timeout for creating new pages down to 6 hours, which should still slow down the spammers but not be quite as much of a burden on legit new users. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:50, 13 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Is any active admin still getting emails sent to the webmaster mailbox?  I ask because I&#039;m getting a ton of them:  Looks like new IP/User Agent blocks, and I haven&#039;t touched this setup since... 2014? [[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 23:12, 23 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We now have a new captcha based on the [[Transformers Name Generator]], which should hopefully be harder for the spammers to crack. Also my apologies to the non-spammers caught up in the blocking - all of the user agent blocks have been rolled back by now, so hopefully no one should be blocked from viewing the site. (Also as per McFly above, I&#039;ve redirected the webmaster email address to me) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:18, 25 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope the new signup test is not too difficult - I notice we haven&#039;t had any new signups since implementing it. I changed the notice to be clearer and provided an example. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:30, 27 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Memobots and Deskcepticons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For those not in the know, the Hasbro Facebook page posted a bunch of new &amp;quot;characters&amp;quot; for April Fools, The Memobots and the Deskcepticons. While awesome, there&#039;s very little material for each &amp;quot;character&amp;quot; to have its own page. (All there is are photoshopped pictures of office supplies, some tech-spec stats and some very brief blurbs.) I&#039;m thinking maybe each &amp;quot;faction&amp;quot; could have a single page, listing each of its members, instead of a very bare page for each &amp;quot;character.&amp;quot; Thoughts? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Just so long as they&#039;re represented here somehow.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:08, 2 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible partnership with the German Transformers Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve been approached by the main admin of the German Transformers Wiki[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Abatesnz#Conflict_with_the_TFWiki.net] about forming a partnership with them. We&#039;ve had a long running partnership with Wookieepedia, which is also hosted on Wikia. They&#039;d link to our pages from their pages and vice versa. Possibly we could set them up as an interlanguage link - I&#039;d have to look into what&#039;s involved. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast Wars reorganization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Demonstration]]. It&#039;s evident that all of the conflicting continuities and crap is out of control, so this seems like the cleanest approach now. It&#039;s based on the movie approach we&#039;re using, since it&#039;s a pretty similar situation. Thoughts? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:23, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s fine by me.  The old chronological way is becoming a clusterfudge.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:33, 15 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GoBots discussions consolidated==&lt;br /&gt;
Since we&#039;ve been discussing this topic for literally years, I thought it would be useful to consolidate it all in one place, in order, with summaries of the key decisions. It can be daunting to keep track of it all, and in recent months the rules have changed several times. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots]]. Summaries could use some work, but I tried to stick to the simple facts without editorializing. I think the important thing with the summaries is that they succinctly say roughly what was discussed and what, if any, decisions were reached. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:47, 28 April 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Transformers Trilogy&amp;quot; manga ==&lt;br /&gt;
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(Although I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s the actual title.) Turns out I have it on my hard drive: [https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ymumej4klqkttlu/AAA2AdRbHyvvxUU6kR6b-rBCa?dl=0]. Feel free to do with as you please. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 01:03, 17 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternate Names links==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise&#039;s]] page, I see from the top he is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetstar&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Streetsmart&#039;&#039;&#039;. I know Streetstar comes from &#039;&#039;Wings&#039;&#039;, but I don&#039;t know where Streetsmart comes from. I recommend a practice of making those &amp;quot;sometimes known as&amp;quot; bits into links that carry you down to the particular Fiction or Toy where the particular name comes from, like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Streetwise (G1)#Wings Universe|Streetstar]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. Thoughts? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the idea, but I would prefer ref notes to section links. Also, there are cases like Bluestreak/Silverstreak, where the alternate name is used in multiple places, and we&#039;d have to decide how much detail we&#039;d want to go into in those instances. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, if an alternate name is used in multiple places, a reference note explanation attached to the name could better cover all of those in one go. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would prefer to uses refs even when the name is only used in one place. I can&#039;t quite put it into words, but using section links for this purpose just feels...&#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:55, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you try to put it in words? Because section links would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Ref notes would be &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Click here to go to some text at the bottom of the page to tell you where to look in the middle of the page to find what you&#039;re looking for.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Seems like an unnecessary extra step. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:32, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the section link wouldn&#039;t make it very clear that it&#039;s showing you where the name is from. It looks like it&#039;s going to send you to a different page or something, then just sends you to a different section of the same page and hopes you figure out what&#039;s going on. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The ref note has an advantage in that it&#039;s already associated with addendums and citations. When the reader sees a ref note, they instantly know &amp;quot;this will show me some details about this bit of text&amp;quot;, while a link says &amp;quot;This is going to send me to another page&amp;quot;. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 14:05, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::...I feel like the reader would have to be pretty stupid not to understand what the link was doing. &amp;quot;Slingshot is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Quickslinger&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; Click the link, see a toy of Slingshot called Quickslinger, with http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slingshot_(G1) still in the address bar. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:21, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Yeah, I guess you&#039;re probably right. Ref notes would only be absolutely necessary if an alternate name is used in multiple places. I&#039;d still rather use ref notes on all of them, but your way works just as well and it&#039;s not really worth arguing about any further. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:16, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@Foffy: I don&#039;t see a problem for the cases I&#039;ve mentioned, no, but I&#039;m not convinced my idea is best for cases where a character is regularly known by multiple names. For instance, how would this apply to Hot Rod&#039;s page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn&#039;t re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Prime is also called Miscellaneous Maximus, then [citation needed].  [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.]  [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:24, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== characters without pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i do not feel compelled to create pages for [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Toxicity&amp;amp;diff=1096168&amp;amp;oldid=1072705 Scarytown] or [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Insecticon_%28WFC%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1096169 Scurry Down], do you?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:10, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given that this character doesn&#039;t exist and he&#039;s telling the other injured Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down,&amp;quot; no, I don&#039;t. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Chris McFeely edit summary:  We went through this when the episode aired - he&#039;s telling the other Insecticon to &amp;quot;stay down.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks.  Can you link me to that discussion?  (Not finding it on [[Talk:Insecticon_(WFC)]] or [[Talk:Toxicity]], maybe the Community Portal archives?)  i have the DVD in my computer&#039;s disc drive right now and i really don&#039;t think he&#039;s saying &amp;quot;stay down&amp;quot;; i&#039;m quite sure i hear another syllable in the middle there.  (i also think Hardshell using the other Con&#039;s name makes more sense than telling him to stay down.)  But like i said, it&#039;s hard to make out what he&#039;s saying.  --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think there&#039;s even a discussion to link to, because editors just reverted anyone who tried to add it. He&#039;s not calling him &amp;quot;Scurrytown.&amp;quot; I&#039;m sorry, he&#039;s just not. It&#039;s the snarling voice Kaye uses. There&#039;s KIND of a &amp;quot;k-&amp;quot; sound in there, but there&#039;s no R. The Insecticon has just tried to get up, and Hardshell is telling it not to bother, and instead stay down and radio the ship. -  [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A suggestion to benefit the wiki ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey everyone. I&#039;ve noticed that this wiki lacks some templates that would be beneficial to have when it comes to linking articles. For example, if I want to link to the G1 Starscream page, I would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. That&#039;s sort of a pain to do. Over on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/ SmashWiki], we use some templates to cut down on the amount of text needed to do that kind of linking. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:SSB Here&#039;s an example].&lt;br /&gt;
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If we implemented this, one would have to write &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; if they wanted to link to that page. That cuts down on a lot of text.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this a good suggestion? Btw, I still think that pages such as [[Optimus Prime (WFC)]] should be called Optimus Prime (Aligned) instead. It makes &#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039; more sense to do it that way and would make this template process a bit easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Could be useful. But disambiguating by continuity family instead of franchise has been discussed to death and decided against repeatedly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know that it&#039;s a frequently argued topic, but I think it&#039;s more relevant than ever due to the fact that we have two franchises with the same name (RID). I mean, why are [[Steeljaw (RID)]] and [[Grimlock (RID)]] not characters from the same series? It makes no sense. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 14:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Part of the disambiguation by series, and not by continuity family, is because sometimes character names get re-used within a universe for different characters. For instance, we have [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] the Autobot lion, and Steeljaw the Decepticon wolf, both of whom exist in the Aligned universe. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:05, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The problem you&#039;re having is that you&#039;re expecting the disambig tags to convey information when that&#039;s not their actual job. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It&#039;s not? Wouldn&#039;t it be simpler then to just go numerical by appearance? Optimus Prime (1), Optimus Prime (2), etc? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:32, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Because then you&#039;d have to memorise a list of numbers in order to link to the Optimus Prime that you wanted? If disambig tags were supposed to be a source of information, every single article would have one. Their actual job is to avoid having articles named the same thing. The continuity note, i.e. the &#039;&#039;first sentence of every article&#039;&#039;, is the thing that&#039;s supposed to tell what franchise and continuity family a thing is from. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That. The current disambig tags exist to help editors remember who&#039;s who while saving us from having to type &amp;quot;(RID 2015)&amp;quot; over and over. Would you be able to tell me offhand who &amp;quot;Blackout III&amp;quot; is? They are ultimately an editing convenience and are not meant to convey every single detail about a character. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:12, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I can see how that would be a pain. I wasn&#039;t proposing that system, just trying to reconcile the idea that tags don&#039;t convey information.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So that case would move further down the hierarchy. How does that affect the idea of starting with continuity family? And it is completely ignoring the fact that the (RID) tags (and the (Universe) tags) are ambiguous in the real world sense. True, they may not be ambiguous in the narrow wiki definition, but to new and casual readers the fact that the exact same tag can refer to two different series is confusing. We should not be increasing real world ambiguity (&amp;quot;Which RID series is this again?&amp;quot;) just because it doesn&#039;t cause wiki-centric ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:15, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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oh my god you guys, &#039;&#039;&#039;no, stop&#039;&#039;&#039; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I feel like disambiguation tag debates should be definitively banned, to be honest. They just go into circles and nothing ever changes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:44, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Typing &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Starscream (G1)|]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; also works, is only slightly longer than &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{G1|Starscream}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, and has the benefit of not including the overhead of expanding a template which adds processing time to any page when the site has to render it. That last one might not be a problem on a small wiki with only medium-sized pages like SmashWiki, but here it could be a big issue. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:22, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s great. I had no idea. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; kinda buried in the middle of [[Help:Editing]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, to anyone who actually contributed to the discussion, thanks for your input. I can see that this sort of template isn&#039;t really what this wiki is looking for, although I do think it would make things a little easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 23:40, 24 May 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How to request main page changes? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi! I&#039;m fairly new here, so I&#039;m sorry if this is a silly question. The main page seems to be edit-locked except for admins, which is an excellent idea. However, I&#039;m used to having a place to request edits to locked pages - in this case, I&#039;d probably mostly be asking for updates to the Rescue Bots &amp;quot;newest episodes&amp;quot; list. Does this wiki have one? If yes, where? Thanks for answering!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Vanishing Returns</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Episode synopsis.&lt;/p&gt;
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|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 84&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Back to Virtual Reality&lt;br /&gt;
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|title=&amp;quot;Vanishing Returns&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 21]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Top Draw Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Claire Lee]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Frank Squillace]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;The Bots deal with a group of investors who want to build a vacation resort in Griffin Rock, while Cody deals with feeling invisible around everyone.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Cody Burns|Cody]]&#039;s looking for someone to play [[Burnsball]] with, but everyone else is busy. [[Dani Burns|Dani]]&#039;s going to go hang out with [[Taylor]], [[Graham Burns|Graham]]&#039;s working on some sort of project, [[Kade Burns|Kade]] is napping, [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] is watching a movie, [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] is writing a blog post, [[Boulder]] is gardening, and [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] is letting some kids climb on him to pick apples. Cody resigns himself to practicing alone. As he departs the garden sadly, a pair of investors walk past, and there&#039;s an explosion by the clock tower. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Rescue Bots intervene to protect people and plants from the debris and fire, and Cody is going down to the clock tower to help when his hoverboard&#039;s batteries die. By the time he arrives, the rest of the team has already arrived; [[Charlie Burns|Chief]] reassures him that he doesn&#039;t need to help. [[Priscilla Pynch]], recently returned from a trip to Europe, is dragged over to the explosion site briefly by her dog [[Wi-Fido]], and then away again. [[H. B. Luskey|Mayor Luskey]], trying to convince the investors that the explosion isn&#039;t a real deterrent, drags Chief Burns over to reassure them; the investors see the Rescue Bots and are immediately sold. When they show their plans to the team, though, Kade points out that much of the space they want to use is already being used for something else, and Graham says that the rest is protected wetlands. The investors aren&#039;t worried about that, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cody heads up to [[Ezra Greene|Doc]]&#039;s lab to get a replacement battery for his hoverboard. Doc is working on some left-behind Velgrox technology that lets anything touching it turn invisible; when Doc walks away to deal with [[CeCe Greene|CeCe]], Cody accidentally puts it in along with the new battery. Meanwhile, [[Neederlander|Mrs. Neederlander]] is unhappy about the mail she&#039;s gotten asking her to sell her home, as is the rest of the block. The letters are from &amp;quot;GRPP Inc.&amp;quot;, which nobody recognizes; however, the team can&#039;t look into it too much because there&#039;s a flood at the Hall of Inspiration.Cody has become invisible, and attempts to navigate downtown with limited success; once he realizes he&#039;s invisible whenever he&#039;s touching the hoverboard, though, he decides to play around with it a bit. &lt;br /&gt;
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At the Hall of Inspiration, the team manages to stop the leak, but they&#039;re not sure what caused the leak until they notice the carefully drilled holes in the pipes. Dani calls to relay an extremely unhappy message from Mayor Luskey, who doesn&#039;t think the investors will want to redevelop the town this way. When the team says they don&#039;t want it redeveloped, he calls a town meeting for that night. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Back at the firehouse, Cody decides to go get some chips and watch TV while still invisible. After freaking everyone out by turning on the TV, he is reassured that his family does care about him when they lament that they didn&#039;t care about him as much as they should have. Then they&#039;re called away by a problem at the wetlands. Cody is wandering around town when he sees [[Madeline Pynch]] lead the investors into her office; he follows them into the meeting, where she discusses her plans for the Griffin Rock Luxury Island Resort, and that she&#039;s been starting all the emergencies. He&#039;s about to leave to tell someone when he runs into the door and knocks the Velgrox invisibility chip off his hoverboard, revealing himself to her. Her chauffeur begins to chase him. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, at the wetlands, the &amp;quot;problem&amp;quot; turns out to be a large oil spill. Cody calls Chief to tell him the story, and they meet back at the firehouse to plan. Graham discovers that GRPP Inc. has permits to demolish an &amp;quot;unsafe property&amp;quot; which turns out to be Mrs. Neederlander&#039;s house, the only problem of which is that it needs new paint. The bots go to check things out and discover no problems until the ground suddenly starts shaking; Boulder digs up the earthquake machine and the trouble stops. Later, Cody goes to Madeline&#039;s office to see if he can find the Velgrox chip. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mayor Luskey and the investors are talking when Chief walks in and says that Madeline Pynch is working with the investors. They ask why that would be a problem, confirming her involvement. Out front, the bots all activate their own Velgrox invisibility chips, and Cody runs in to say that ghosts are coming to dissuade the investors. The invisible bots wreak havoc, quickly convincing the investors to leave. Back at the Pynch mansion, Priscilla is lounging in her room when her mother appears on the balcony. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Boulder]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cody Burns]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dani Burns]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Graham Burns]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kade Burns]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mrs Rubio]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*Female investor (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*Male investor (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Burns]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[H. B. Luskey|Mayor Luskey]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Priscilla Pynch]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ezra Greene]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CeCe Greene]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Neederlander|Mrs Neederlander]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Madeline Pynch]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wi-Fido]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mister Pettypaws]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Boulder mentioned wanting to get gardening tips from Mrs Rubio back in &amp;quot;[[Bridge Building]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The clock tower was opened in &amp;quot;[[Time After Time]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Velgrox]] invasion occurred in &amp;quot;[[New Normal]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Charlotte Wayne was previously seen haunting the island in &amp;quot;[[The Haunting of Griffin Rock]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Priscilla Pynch&#039;s trip to Europe was mentioned in &#039;&#039;[[Double Villainy]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Back_to_Virtual_Reality&amp;diff=1094152</id>
		<title>Back to Virtual Reality</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Back_to_Virtual_Reality&amp;diff=1094152"/>
		<updated>2016-05-15T20:00:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Episode synopsis and a few real-world references.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 83&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Plus One (RB)&lt;br /&gt;
|next=Vanishing Returns&lt;br /&gt;
|image=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Back to Virtual Reality&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 14]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Top Draw Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;When Chief is convinced by Cody to try a virtual reality video game, an old nemesis is uncovered; the team must stop the villain from destroying the real Griffin Rock.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone&#039;s coming to the [[Griffin Rock Community Pool]] for the last day of the season before it turns into a skating rink. [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]] calls [[Cody Burns|Cody]] to reveal that she&#039;s found an update to [[Griffin Rock Element Quest 1.0]] and ask if he wants to come over to the Fun Zone to try it out, but he doesn&#039;t want to miss the last game of &amp;quot;Burnso&amp;quot;. [[Kade Burns|Kade]], who [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] soaked, asks the lifeguard to turn the water heat up; unfortunately, the lifeguard is distracted by some running kids as he goes to adjust the temperature, and he accidentally puts it into ice rink mode. The pool freezes over immediately, and [[Jerry (RB)|Jerry]]&#039;s son Timmy says that his father was under the water when it froze!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Boulder]] breaks the ice and [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] pulls Jerry out. [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] offers to take him over to the hospital for a checkup, and [[Graham Burns|Graham]] determines that the temperature control system is stuck on &amp;quot;ice rink&amp;quot;; fixing it is doable, but will take a while. The Burnses opt to head over to the Fun Zone, except for Boulder, who wants to get a library card, and [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] and Chase, who intend to go out on patrol instead. Cody asks his father to come try out Element Quest 2.0 with them, and Chase points out that he&#039;s perfectly capable of patrolling by himself. Chief is convinced to go with the rest of his family to the Fun Zone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the Fun Zone, the group separates almost immediately, although Blades requests Chief&#039;s prize tickets. Heatwave, Cody, Chief, and Frankie decide to try out Element Quest&#039;s new four-player mode. Chief takes a little while to figure out the controls, but once he does he starts enjoying the game quickly. The group opts to play the new level, Air. Meanwhile, at the library, Boulder encounters trouble getting a library card due to his lack of a driver&#039;s license. Graham is busy playing pinball and can&#039;t provide his own driver&#039;s license information, and the librarian is unimpressed with his offer of a license plate number. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the Air level, the team discovers a wooden horse that shows them how to get wings to fly up to the goal. When they reach the target, the horse splits apart to reveal a virtual [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]], much to everyone&#039;s surprise. Chief ends the game and calls the rest of the rescue team over to explain matters. Frankie determines that the game is functioning normally and nothing&#039;s gotten into it from the outside, and the power immediately cuts out. Everything with a screen starts displaying Morocco&#039;s logo. Cody suggests that this is the effect of a virus embedded in the Element Quest 2.0 update. Boulder calls from the library; he can&#039;t check out the book of American folktales he wants to get because everything in the system is inexplicably checked out to Thaddeus Morocco. Chase reports that the bank is also showing that all the money in every account has been transferred to Thaddeus Morocco; he and [[Harrison (RB)|Mr. Harrison]] have barricaded themselves inside the bank to get away from the angry mob outside demanding their money. Chief instructs him to keep everyone calm until they&#039;ve got this sorted out, so he decides to try to tell a joke. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Graham shuts down the wireless so the virus can&#039;t spread, and Frankie gets a program to remove the virus from her father. When she tries to upload it, everything seems to be going back to normal for a few seconds, but the virus quickly reasserts itself. The group concludes that the virtual Morocco from Element Quest is the virus itself, and winning the game should let them delete it. Chief, Cody, Blades, and Heatwave prepare to go into the program. Dani and Kade are dispatched to help Chase at the bank and Graham is sent to work on the library, both with copies of the virus-deleting program. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the game, Griffin Rock appears to have been transformed into [[Moropolis]]. Morocco appears and forces them into the Earth level, but with the enemies and items of the Water level, like sharks. Cody gets everyone into the boats which came with the sharks, but Morocco sends a group of [[CAT]]s after them. When Heatwave prepares to jump up and attack him, he summons a dragon, which immediately kills virtual Heatwave. Back in the real world, Heatwave attempts to reenter the game, but Frankie realizes that she can&#039;t get him back into the program; the virus has control. Blades similarly dies to the dragon. Chief and Cody take one of the boats and make a break for it, and conclude that the bots can&#039;t get back into the game. They seize upon the idea of defeating Morocco permanently. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cody notices a jump power boost Morocco hasn&#039;t noticed, and tells his father to go get it and try to attack. Cody distracts Morocco by throwing arrows at him long enough for Chief to get the flag, which defeats him. With the Morocco virus gone, Frankie can easily fix the Fun Zone computers, and the bank and library computers are even simpler. However, the Morocco virus prints itself into one of the prizes and makes a break for the street, only to discover that it&#039;s tiny and can&#039;t do much outside a video game. The team forces him into the pool, which has been melting and now has water at the surface, and freezes it. Frankie cuts out the block of ice containing the miniature Morocco and puts it in the Frozen section of the [[Hall of Inspiration|Best Left Forgotten Room]] archives.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
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|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
* The wooden horse that hides the virtual Morocco is a reference to the [[wikipedia:Trojan Horse|Trojan horse]]; viruses that hide themselves in benign programs are known as &amp;quot;Trojan horse viruses&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Do a barrel roll!&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;the cake is a lie&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;ramming speed&amp;quot; are all memes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anna_Baranova&amp;diff=1092586</id>
		<title>Anna Baranova</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anna_Baranova&amp;diff=1092586"/>
		<updated>2016-05-08T05:10:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoiler tag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Ann}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Anna Baranova is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon portion]] of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GriffinRockTriangle Anna Baranova.jpg|thumb|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Professor Anna Baranova&#039;&#039;&#039; is a scientist. Highly tenacious, she is not afraid to go ahead with a plan without seeking approval from her superiors first, especially if she doesn&#039;t think she&#039;ll obtain it. She takes the phrase &amp;quot;doesn&#039;t get out much&amp;quot; to extremes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Kath Soucie]] (English), [[Marissa Lenti]] (&amp;quot;[[Dino Island]]&amp;quot;)|[[Katarzyna Tatarak]] (Polish)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GriffinRockTriangle Baranova log entry.jpg|thumb|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
Determined to investigate the [[Griffin Rock Triangle]], Baranova conceived of Project Midgard, building a mobile undersea lab to do just that. Once &#039;&#039;[[Midgard]]&#039;&#039; was completed, Baranova discovered that the Triangle was the result of an undersea vent causing methane to bubble up and decided the best way to deal with it would be to drop an explosive into the vent and seal it. She knew the council would never approve of her plan, so she attempted it without consulting them, and the &#039;&#039;Midgard&#039;&#039; was caught in a methane eruption. The submersible crashed on a ledge in the trench, but with the lab&#039;s greenhouse and life support intact Baranova was able to survive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some twenty-eight years later, [[Cody Burns]] found the recordings Baranova had made, instigating a mission by the Burns family and their [[Rescue Bot]]s to the trench beneath the Triangle. Baranova was surprised to see them and hostile to the idea of completing the mission, as the only way to do so would result in the destruction of her home, the &#039;&#039;Midgard&#039;&#039;. Cody was able to talk her around, and after they used the &#039;&#039;Midgard&#039;&#039; to seal the vent, she returned to the surface with them. [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] set about organizing a replica of the &#039;&#039;Midgard&#039;&#039; for her to use as a dwelling. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Triangle}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Tracer (RB)|tracers]] ran loose, Baranova was the only one who recognized them as part of the [[Sanctuary Plan]] project. She passed the information on to Cody and [[Frankie Greene]] before one of the bugs teleported her to a cavern under Griffin Rock where most of the other townspeople had already been sent. They were eventually rescued by the Rescue Bots. {{storylink|Countdown (RB)|Countdown}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Baranova designed the &#039;&#039;[[Asgard]]&#039;&#039;, a space elevator which used a huge laser beam to propel it into space. Following a near-disastrous launch, the &#039;&#039;Asgard&#039;&#039; reached orbit piloted by [[Graham Burns]] and Doc Greene, with Baranova herself remaining on Earth as mission control. She attempted to bring the &#039;&#039;Asgard&#039;&#039; down again after it was damaged by an asteroid, however it was discovered that the ship had become untethered. She contacted [[NASA]], but they were unable to supply a rescue ship. {{storylink|Space Bots}} After the [[Rider of Midwinter]] left her a loaf of bread, she turned up to the [[Midwinter Morning]] bonfire. {{storylink|The Riders of Midwinter}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Professor Baranova was able to deal with an out-of-control Dither by telling him she wanted some toast. She and Doc Greene later had dinner together. {{storylink|Bot-Tastic Voyage}} After Doc Greene left her on the floating lab with Frankie so the pair could get to know each other, Baranova answered a distress signal and was captured by big game hunter [[Quint Quarry]], who intended to use her for leverage to get Greene to build him dinobots. After an attempt by Frankie to rescue her backfired, the two worked together to escape and joined up with Doc Greene and Blades. In the process of them rescuing the other Rescue Bots, Baranova learned that they were sentient machines, and was later welcomed into the family by [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]. {{Storylink|Quarry&#039;s Quarry}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Baranova attended the opening of an old time capsule and was surprised when it contained a quantum crystal. An accident with the crystal resulted in the entire island being transported to the [[Arctic]]. {{Storylink|Now and Then}} She helped Doc Greene produce [[floatium]] with which to fly the island back to [[Maine]]. He later proposed to her and, after the pair had a near-death experience thanks to a sinkhole, she accepted. She and the other townsfolk had to work to keep the island in the air until it could reach its usual resting place. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the next three years, the Greenes had a new arrival in the form of [[CeCe Greene|CeCe]], who was more than a handful. During the [[Velgrox]] invasion, Ezra and Anna were abducted while turning on the laboratory&#039;s satellite dish and later rescued along with the rest of the captured townsfolk. {{storylink|New Normal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Greenes had to hunt for CeCe after their daughter became locked in the back vault, but they were later reunited thanks to the new Rescue Bot [[Quickshadow]]. {{Storylink|Arrivals}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Baranova, Anna}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots humans]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Scientists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Hayley&amp;diff=1092583</id>
		<title>Hayley</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Hayley&amp;diff=1092583"/>
		<updated>2016-05-08T04:58:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoiler tag.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; human|the Generation 1 scientist|Haley}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hayley is a [[human]] from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SmallBlessings Hayley.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hayley&#039;&#039;&#039; is a resident of [[Griffin Rock]]. She&#039;s the sort of girl who requires being exposed to deadly danger before she&#039;ll go on a date. She drives a red convertible and teaches pre-schoolers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Danica McKellar]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:UnderPressure Chase saves motorist.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Don&#039;t worry, she has lava insurance.]]&lt;br /&gt;
When the traffic came to a standstill thanks to lava bubbling up through the ground, Hayley sped past [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] and drove right into the lava. The [[Rescue Bot]] picked her up and lectured her on following the road rules. {{storylink|Under Pressure}} She hung out with [[Alper|Mr Alper]] at [[Griffin Rock Zoo]] on [[Earth Day]] {{storylink|Walk on the Wild Side}} and was hanging out with [[Mr Rubio]] in the park when [[Boulder]] went on a [[nanite]]-induced rampage. {{storylink|Cody on Patrol}} She was among the rubberneckers when the bank nearly fell into a sinkhole. {{storylink|Four Bots and a Baby}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For years, [[Kade Burns]] tried to get a date with Hayley, but she thought he was obnoxious. When she drove her minivan off the road near [[Griffin Rock dam]], he came to her rescue in [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] bravely risking his own life to pull her out of her vehicle before it fell into the dam overflow pipe. After Heatwave pulled them both to safety, they were interviewed by [[Huxley Prescott]], and Kade took her off to get coffee. Their date evidently went very well, as she was keen later to come and help Kade clean the sewerage off of Heatwave. {{storylink|Small Blessings}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kade took Hayley to see a drive-in movie, which resulted in him missing several calls from the [[Rescue Bot]]s. {{storylink|Rules and Regulations}} Hayley attended the [[Founders&#039; Day]] celebrations, {{storylink|The Lost Bell}} and was among the gawkers at the fire at the firework factory. {{storylink|Rescue Boy}} She got Kade to bring Heatwave for photos with her pre-schoolers. {{storylink|It&#039;s a Bot Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kade planned for a date with Hayley using the [[Mobile Headquarters]] GPS. {{storylink|Road Trip}} Hayley was among the crowd at a rocket crash when her interest was raised by a new member of the Burns family who said his name was &amp;quot;Cole&amp;quot;. Hayley flirted with him, unaware Cole was actually Cody, prematurely aged thanks to a mishap at the lab, and she tried to ask him out to lunch after he saved her from the rocket explosion. {{storylink|One for the Ages}} Hayley was at the zoo and applauded after Kade rescued [[Nancy Morrison]] from the lion enclosure. {{storylink|Prescott&#039;s Bots}} She was narrowly missed by an out of control [[Deep Earth Scout]], {{storylink|What Lies Below}} and attended the offloading of [[Vigil]] from the [[Griffin Rock ferry|ferry]]. {{storylink|The Vigilant Town}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Volunteering to go on a [[Lad Pioneer]] nature hike, Hayley was paired up with [[Frankie Greene]] — permanently so when the keys for their [[Buddy Bracelet]]s were destroyed. When the others had to leave to attend to a snake infestation, Hayley managed to impress Frankie with her knowledge of botany, and even saved the group from one of the snakes. After the bracelets were deactivated, Frankie was happy to hang out with her. {{storylink|Buddy System}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After Doc Greene dealt with a tornado, Hayley hugged a couple of kids who&#039;d been rescued from the storm by Heatwave and Kade. {{storylink|Changes}} She was unhappy when the town&#039;s presents sank, but after a visit from the [[Rider of Midwinter]], she turned up to the [[Midwinter Morning]] bonfire. {{storylink|The Riders of Midwinter}} She was waiting at the Griffin Rock end of the line for the [[Griffin Rock Express]], but the train shot straight past the station. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Express}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She along with the rest of the town sought higher ground on [[Mount Griffin]] as the island began to sink, and cheered after the rescue team managed to save the town. {{storylink|Rise of the Heroes}} Kade&#039;s obnoxiousness on the [[basketball]] court upset Hayley, who was looking forward to the upcoming charity game between the rescue team and teachers. He later successfully apologized to her. {{storylink|Too Many Kades}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hayley was among the people who went out on the ferry to try to spot the &#039;&#039;[[S.S. Phantom Voyager]]&#039;&#039;. Ten years after the rescue team went missing on the ship, she was out there again, and had to be rescued when the ferry collided with the ghost ship. Later time travel shenanigans mean that rescue probably didn&#039;t happen. {{storylink|Phantom of the Sea}} Kade sent text messages to Hayley while the Rescue Bots&#039; miniaturized ship was flying around inside him, and at one point got her annoyed due to auto-correct changing his message. {{storylink|Bot-Tastic Voyage}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kade was chatting with Hayley at a cafe when Huxley Prescott and [[H. B. Luskey|Mayor Luskey]] started pumping him for information on endangered woodpeckers. {{storylink|Endangered Species}} Chase spied Hayley entertaining some kids by juggling. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}} She stood next to Kade as Chief Burns asked everyone to cooperate and help get Griffin Rock back to its usual position from the [[Arctic]]. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Along with much of the rest of town, Hayley was abducted by the [[Velgrox]], and learned that the Rescue Bots were actually sentient alien robots. {{storylink|New Normal}} She was part of the group of residents who later met to decide whether to keep the Rescue Bots&#039; secret and ultimately voted to do so. {{storylink|Bridge Building}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hayley had Chase speak to her class for Career Day, a move she regretted when his speech went on for three hours before finally being interrupted by an emergency. {{storylink|Arrivals}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Cartoon-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Blades is an [[Autobot]] from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)|Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RescueBotsBlades-charactermodel.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Function: Autobot Nebbish.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With the help of his partner, the eager and daring rescue tech [[Dani Burns]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Blades&#039;&#039;&#039; the Copter-Bot struggles to overcome the fear of heights his new Earth-gained flying form has revealed. Young and unsure at times, Blades would prefer to be safe and on the ground...but he doesn&#039;t let that stop him when others are in danger. Overcoming his own fears to save others is part of what makes Blades a Rescue Bot and a true hero.&lt;br /&gt;
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He has also been known to work with [[Sawyer Storm]] and is a huge admirer of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Fear is a great motivator.|Blades|&amp;quot;[[You&#039;ve Been Squilshed]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; storybooks===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:RescueBotsRespond Blades.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blades was part of [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]]&#039;s team of Rescue Bots — he was the smart one who made up all the plans. When the team received a message from [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], they hopped in their spacecraft and joined him on [[Earth]], where he was given the [[alternate mode]] of a helicopter. Inexperienced at flying, Blades accidentally sliced a tree with his rotors, and it had to be dealt with by the rest of the team. They eventually arrived in [[Griffin Rock]], where Optimus introduced them to [[Charlie Burns|Chief Charlie]]. {{storylink|Rescue Bots Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After some time away from Griffin Rock, Blades returned to [[Fire Station Prime|Prime Fire Station]] to join the team, and introduced himself to [[Cody Burns]]. He, Heatwave and Cody were soon called out on a mission, however Blades&#039;s broken radio caused problems, and he inadvertently fanned the forest fire with his rotors until the others could warn him away. Instead he found his partner [[Sawyer Storm]] helping humans trapped by the fire and assisted in the rescue. Back at the fire station, Blades and the team were congratulated on a job well done, and Blades got his radio fixed. {{storylink|Rescue Bots Respond}} He was on hand to welcome [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] and [[Boulder]] when the remaining members of the team arrives. {{storylink|Rapid Rescue}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Parvesh Cheena]] (English), [[Lacey Chabert]] (English, &amp;quot;[[Switcheroo]]&amp;quot;)|[[Bernhard Völger]] (German), [[Gábor Seder]] (Hungarian), [[Klaudiusz Kaufmann]] (Polish), [[Moisés Ivan Mora]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:UnfinishedBusiness proto-Blades.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|*intro guitar riff*]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blades was part of a team of Rescue Bots who were finishing a routine patrol in space when they received a distress call. Investigating, they found they&#039;d been marked as lunch by an [[Energon eater]], and had to put themselves in stasis and power down their ship to escape it. {{storylink|Unfinished Business}} Sometime later, the &#039;&#039;[[Sigma]]&#039;&#039; received a transmission from [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] and landed on [[Earth]]. After dropping the bombshell that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was no more, Optimus assigned the team to [[Griffin Rock]] to work with the Burns family. Blades was not keen on the helicopter [[alternate mode]] he was forced to take, as his previous form had wheels and he was afraid of heights. The four Rescue Bots were presented to the public by [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] at a ceremony, following which Blades discovered that his new partner, [[Dani Burns]], could yell really loud when she wanted him to fly faster as they went to the [[Griffin Rock natural history museum|museum]] to attend to a fire. That night, [[Cody Burns]] discovered the Rescue Bots&#039; secret, and after they helped stop a rogue robot &#039;&#039;Tyrannosaurus rex&#039;&#039;, Chief Burns revealed the truth to the rest of the team. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Hotshots Blades with scoopclaw belly.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|&amp;quot;Too alarmin&#039; now to talk about.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Dani and Blades continued to have trouble working together, arriving late to an emergency. Cody tried unsuccessfully to get the pair to bond, until there was another emergency when [[Mount Magma]] began threatening the island with lava. Blades and Dani operated the switch to open the volcano&#039;s crater as a relief measure, but when they were subsequently caught in an ash cloud, Dani had to cajole a panicking Blades into flying out of it. He managed to earn her respect when he subsequently braved the ash to pick up a water tower and douse the lava with it. {{storylink|Under Pressure}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Blades felt like he wasn&#039;t contributing enough, Dani fitted a scoop claw to him, something he wasn&#039;t that enthusiastic about, and made him look fat in [[robot mode]]. The claw soon proved its worth, though the other Rescue Bots were annoyed Blades and Dani were hogging all the rescues and even threatened to forcibly remove it. When during a patrol, Blades was forced down by a lightning strike, the other Rescue Bots came to his aid, and he and Dani decided to use the claw scoop a little less often in the future. {{storylink|Hotshots}} Blades and Dani retrieved a lobster parade balloon after it carried away Doc Greene. Three of the Rescue Bots took part in the technology parade during the [[Lobster and Technology Festival]] but the town was attacked by [[flobster]]s, who seemed to have a liking for Blades&#039;s face. He and Dani helped round them up using a cage and the lobster balloon, so they could be neutralized. Afterwards, Blades finally worked out the joke. {{storylink|Flobsters on Parade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:FourBotsBaby Blades lowers harness.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.34|&amp;quot;Take your pictures down and shake it out.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
After helping prevent a hazardous chemical spill, the Rescue Bots were forced to endure a screening of &#039;&#039;[[The Natives of Tatooie]]&#039;&#039; that resulted in [[Huxley Prescott]] causing a mass panic when he reported an alien invasion. The Rescue Bots had to help during the ensuing chaos and destroyed Huxley&#039;s [[SETI]] dish to avoid the island&#039;s destruction. {{storylink|The Alien Invasion of Griffin Rock}} After [[Boulder]] got the idea to adopt a pet, Blades helped him by shutting down the power to [[Griffin Rock Zoo]]. They spent the rest of the night trying to find the [[Whiskers|lion]] that Boulder had let loose, and Blades ended up catching it in a cage. {{storylink|Walk on the Wild Side}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Cody souped up a go-kart, Blades was worried he wouldn&#039;t want to hang out with them any more. The go-kart turned sour when Cody tried to soup it up with nanites, which instead ran rampant, and the Rescue Bots had to help him. {{storylink|Cody on Patrol}} Cody roped the Rescue Bots into helping him take care of a [[Robo-Baby]]. They found Blades&#039;s rotors had a soothing effect on the baby and put it to sleep. When the bank was in danger of falling into a sinkhole, Blades and Dani had to rescue [[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]] again, and in the meantime the baby escaped from the fire station, forcing Cody and the Rescue Bots to track it down. {{storylink|Four Bots and a Baby}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:DeepTrouble Pirate Blades.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;Truth or consequence, say it aloud.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
During a snowfall caused by a weather machine, Dani and Blades helped save city hall by flying upside-down and clearing the snow off the roof. Unfortunately this left Blades too frozen to fly when they later needed to rescue [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]] from a chunk of ice on the river. {{storylink|Christmas in July}} Blades and Dani rescued [[H. B. Luskey|Mayor Luskey]] when his boat, the &#039;&#039;[[Floating Xanadu]]&#039;&#039; was in danger of running aground. He and the other Rescue Bots were invited on a fishing trip with Chief Burns and Cody the next day, and Blades, who had been watching too many pirate movies, began affecting pirate talk. After the Bots encountered and fought a [[shark submarine]], the sub started a self-destruct sequence, and Blades had to fly it out to sea before it exploded. {{storylink|Deep Trouble (RB)|Deep Trouble}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Blades was happy at being grounded due to fog, but had to fly anyway when the dinosaur from the museum was spotted near the lab. Though it turned out the dinosaur had been reprogrammed, a short time later the island&#039;s technology went wild, and the Rescue Bots had to deal with the out-of-control devices and a hacked [[Trex]]. After they subdued the beast, Blades had to fly Doc Greene back to his lab to remove the virus from Trex. {{storylink|Return of the Dino Bot}} When [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]] turned up with his [[MorBot]] and threatened to overshadow the Rescue Bots, the team was forced to compete with the doctor&#039;s invention to prove themselves worthy. Thanks to Morocco&#039;s machinations, they failed and were stood down from service. {{storylink|The Other Doctor}} Blades turned to television. He was pressed into service by Cody, who had Dani fly him over to spy on the lab, which worked until they were spotted by the MorBot which chased them back to the fire station. After being called out to a fire at the lab, the Rescue Bots got the chance to exact some payback on the MorBot. The team was subsequently reinstated as Griffin Rock&#039;s rescue service. {{storylink|The Reign of Morocco}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GriffinRockTriangle Blades pulls boat.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|&amp;quot;Use that evidence, race it around.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Though Blades and Dani turned up to rescue [[Hayley]], Kade insisted on doing it himself so he could impress the girl. The team turned up to a break-in at the [[Hall of Inspiration]], during which Blades, [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] and Boulder were shrunk to the size of ants by the [[Minimizer]] and ended up in the sewer. After braving huge rats and a torrent of water, they made it to the [[Griffin Rock dam]], where they rescued Kade and alerted the rest of the team to the fact that the dam was near bursting. Cody later used the Minimizer to return them to their normal sizes. {{storylink|Small Blessings}} While trying to save [[Wild (RB)|Captain Wild]]&#039;s boat, Blades was pulled under the sea but managed to save the boat with the help of the rest of the team. He helped Cody search the tunnels under the island to find a mooring station, leading the team to venture into the sea where they helped [[Anna Baranova|Professor Baranova]] seal the vent causing the [[Griffin Rock Triangle]]. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Triangle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the daring rescue of Huxley Prescott by the four bots, Chief left them with strict orders not to go to [[Griffin Crest]]. After receiving an apparent SOS from Cody, Blades and the others went there anyway and ended up immobilized by an [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP]] field, leaving them in need of a rescue. {{storylink|Rules and Regulations}} Blades had a rotor bend during a rescue at the airport, so when he and the other three Bots were washed out to sea with Cody and ended up on an inhabited island, he was unable to fly back to Griffin Rock for help. The Bots&#039; attempts to build him shelter and gather food were less than successful, but they did manage to find traces of the &#039;&#039;[[Oaken Crow]]&#039;&#039;, which led to them finding the ship and getting off the island. {{storylink|The Lost Bell}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Bttr bumblebee blades.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.8|&amp;quot;There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
While on a mission to [[Wayward Island]], Blades was excited to meet Bumblebee, however his attempting to show off backfired when he got stuck to a tree and Bumblebee had to rescue him. Back on Griffin Rock, the team attended another rescue, but when the other three Rescue Bots seized up, Bumblebee once again had to help Blades complete the rescue. As it turned out the others had been infected by a virus from the meteorite, Blades stayed at the fire station while the humans and Bumblebee went to deal with it, but ended up flying out himself to rescue Bumblebee from an undersea trench. Faced with an out-of-control bomb, the two Bots used it to destroy the meteorite, but were infected by the virus themselves. Luckily a sample of the meteorite they&#039;d obtained resulted in the finding of a cure, and Blades was overjoyed to get some photos of himself with Bumblebee. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Rescue Bots were called out to deal with a huge blob of space goo, Blades was horrified by it eating [[Mister Pettypaws]] and tried fruitlessly to hit it with a park sculpture. He and Dani tracked the [[Squilsh]] from the air, and later provided an air lift when the team cornered it at the [[Griffin Rock Community Pool]]. {{storylink|You&#039;ve Been Squilshed}} Blades and Dani rescued Frankie from [[Tracer (RB)|tracers]] after most of the townspeople were teleported elsewhere by them, and had to fly through the wind farm to try to lose a swarm of the bugs. Back at the fire station, the Bots had their work cut out squishing bugs, though Blades managed to catch one, enabling Boulder to find a way to neutralize them. The four Bots later tracked down the cavern where the townsfolk had been teleported and rescued them all. {{storylink|Countdown (RB)|Countdown}} When Griffin Rock was hit by an infestation of what appeared to be ghosts, Blades was particularly hesitant to deal with them, having watched all fourteen &#039;&#039;[[Haunted Halls]]&#039;&#039; movies. He was especially unnerved when one manifested right inside his cockpit. {{storylink|The Haunting of Griffin Rock}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:LittleWhiteLies Blades protects Graham.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.45|&amp;quot;There goes my hero. He&#039;s ordinary.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blades helped search the island for Chief Burns and [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] after the pair went missing, though when the trail led to the old lead mine, he was almost too worried about blood-sucking bats to go in. He, [[Graham Burns|Graham]] and Dani followed Boulder&#039;s sonar and managed to find Chase. {{storylink|Little White Lies}} The Rescue Bots were forced to be extra attentive to their cover as robots when Frankie started filming them for a school project. They stopped a swarm of earthquakes by tracking down the cause in the caves under Griffin Rock. {{storylink|Shake Up}} Following Blades&#039;s discovery of fireworks, Cody got a repulsor badge, granting the boy superhero-like powers. When the badge overloaded, trapping Cody in an energy bubble, Blades declared it his mortal enemy, as he and the other Bots worked to rescue Cody. {{storylink|Rescue Boy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Blades, the other Rescue Bots, Cody and Frankie were sent back in time to [[1939]] in a time travel accident. There they fell into the hands of a team of scientists headed by Doctor Morocco who performed experiments on them. Morocco was getting to the point of dissecting the four Bots when Optimus and Bumblebee came to their rescue. On returning to the present, they found that Morocco had taken over the town with the aid of his MorBots. {{storylink|It&#039;s a Bot Time}} The four bots managed to elude the MorBots and soon established that leaving [[Dither]] in the past had resulted in the changed. After an encounter with an alternate version of the Burns family, including a version of Dani who didn&#039;t like flying, the Rescue Bots returned to 1939 and retrieved Dither, returning the timeline to normal. {{storylink|Bot to the Future}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Blades took to playing a dance video game with Frankie, once she and Doc Greene knew the Rescue Bots&#039; secret. He assisted in the rescue of [[Taylor]], whom he was amused to note that Dani had taken a liking to, and had to rescue the other Bots when Doc Greene&#039;s [[Vacuum Accelerator]] warped them to the top of [[Mount Griffin]]. {{storylink|Road Trip}} The Rescue Bots helped construct Frankie Greene&#039;s [[Sky Forest (structure)|Sky Forest]], only to have to rescue the town&#039;s citizens when the plant life grew out of control. {{storylink|Sky Forest (episode)|Sky Forest}} When Chief Burns was ill, the four bots had to contend with Kade appointing himself new team leader, and Cody being aged into an adult in a lab experiment. Blades&#039;s attempt to salvage a crashed rocket from where it was tangled in power lines resulted in it exploding. {{storylink|One for the Ages}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AVirtualDisaster Blades arrow to the knee.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.45|&amp;quot;Don&#039;t the best of them bleed it out&lt;br /&gt;
while the rest of them peter out?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
He and Dani tracked an iceberg, only to discover it was actually [[S.S. Isolde|a ship]] frozen by a piece of cargo it was carrying, the [[Sub-Zero Expander]]. After accidentally getting frozen by the machine, Blades returned to base, and took part in an attempt to get rid of the device by blowing it up, which was aborted when it turned out Doctor Morocco had claimed the vessel as salvage. The team had to deal with the fallout when the device exploded and froze a five-mile section of ocean. {{storylink|Tip of the Iceberg}} After a rescue mission where Blades became frightened of the snowy weather, Cody took Blades to the Hall of Inspiration where they played the Doc&#039;s new [[Griffin Rock Element Quest 1.0|virtual reality game]]. Inside the game, Cody taught Blades about video games, such as power-ups and boss fights, but the game bugged out when lightning struck the Hall. The bosses could hurt the two and Blades overcame his fear and gained the courage to protect Cody, much to Heatwave&#039;s surprise. The three beat the game, thanks to Blades, and were teleported out of the game. Heatwave later commented on Blades&#039;s courage. {{storylink|A Virtual Disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the rest of the team was mesmerized by cellphones, Blades escaped by virtue of being out on patrol at the time, though it did mean he and Dani had to put out a fire without Heatwave&#039;s help. They were subsequently mind-controlled as well, and forced to excavate [[Blossom Vale]] until the cell tower was taken out. {{storylink|Spellbound}} Huxley Prescott&#039;s reality show featuring the bots was approved by the mayor, and Blades was caught up in the idea of gaining fame. He began trying to think up catchphrases, but was disappointed when it turned out Prescott had begun manufacturing emergencies to make the show more exciting. {{storylink|Prescott&#039;s Bots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BlameTheGremlins Blades and Dani rescue.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.55|&amp;quot;Kudos, my hero, leavin&#039; all the best.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blades took part in a rescue when Taylor&#039;s plane was stricken with an electrical fault. He and the rest of the team later had to face a horde of [[gremlin]]s conjured from Kade&#039;s nightmares. {{storylink|Blame the Gremlins}} When a monster was spotted during a star-gazing expedition with Cody, Blades and the other Rescue Bots helped the boy hunt for the beast, resulting in an encounter with it at an old cannery. It transpired that the &amp;quot;Magic Meat&amp;quot; that Mayor Luskey had been selling was [[Fo-Foo]], an experimental food with lycanthropic side effects, and the team had to track down Luskey and Graham who were both infected. {{storylink|Feed the Beast}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A picnic Blades and Cody were helping Dani with was interrupted by the arrival of [[Woodrow Burns]]. The revelation that there was [[energon]] under the island resulted in Optimus Prime arriving, and the whole team had to go rescue Woodrow and Cody after the pair became trapped in a cavern deep underground, which ended up with Blades having to fight giant spiders. {{storylink|What Lies Below}} After Blades, Boulder and the three older siblings were separated from the others, Blades had to brave luminous fungus, pterodactyls, and giant fish as they searched for a way out. Once the team was reunited, they escaped from underground by blasting themselves out of the top of Mount Magma. {{storylink|What Rises Above}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rescue Bots had to bring out their spaceship for another mission to save Graham and Doc Greene after the space elevator they were on was hit by an asteroid. {{storylink|Space Bots}} The team had to deal with a runaway [[mechanical bull]]. When a mishap occurred while transporting the creature to the [[Island of Misfit Tech]], Blades, Chase and Boulder ended up tussling with a prototype Scrapmaster. {{storylink|The Island of Misfit Tech}} The town&#039;s new central computer [[Vigil]] was unable to control the four Rescue Bots, so when it attempted to take control of Griffin Rock, the Bots were able to get the rest of the team into its vault to stop it. {{storylink|The Vigilant Town}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BuddySystem Blades scales cliff.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.85|&amp;quot;You know my hero, the one that&#039;s on.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Blades finally achieved his ambition to become a [[Lad Pioneer]] when he was appointed troop mascot. Going on a nature hike, Blade was linked with Cody via [[Buddy Bracelet]]s, the keys for which were accidentally destroyed. Consequently Cody had to come along with Blades when the Rescue Bot took part in a snake hunt around town. {{storylink|Buddy System}} After an earthquake and a rash of objects being pulled into the air, Blades became convinced that invisible [[griffin]]s were to blame. He and the other Bots accompanied Graham and Cody to Wayward Island, where it turned out that it was just a super-magnet causing the trouble. {{storylink|In Search of the Griffin&#039;s Nest}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Chase appeared to join with Evan and Myles during their crime spree, Blades and the rest of the rescue team found themselves going against him. He later rejoined the team and the four Rescue Bots disabled the [[Tech Wrecker]] Evan and Myles had created. {{storylink|Bots and Robbers}} Following the rescue of a dog, the Rescue Bots were joined in their work by [[Noble (RB)|Noble]], at least until the dogs real owner turned up to claim him. {{storylink|Rescue Dog}} The team had to deal with a storm without Heatwave. When their leader returned with a second alternate mode, Blades was interested in finding out how to acquire one himself. {{storylink|Changes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After a sea rescue Blades took part in resulted in everyone&#039;s midwinter holiday presents sinking to the bottom of the ocean, Blades and the rest of the team took on the mantle of the [[Rider of Midwinter]] and delivered loaves of bread to the townsfolk. {{storylink|The Riders of Midwinter}} When a [[Power Planter]] was struck by lightning and ran wild, the team was forced to respond to a number of emergencies caused by it. They eventually succeeded in luring it into a trap using [[Boil Coil]]s and destroyed it. {{storylink|Movers and Shakers}} When Chief Burns was off the island, Woodrow ended up as part of the team. Blades found himself being used as a ramp during a rescue of the mayor, something he didn&#039;t enjoy much, though he later got to help rescue some [[dolphin]]s. {{storylink|Chief Woodrow}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Blades was excited at the news that Bumblebee was coming and made plans to enjoy his friend&#039;s visit, however it turned out Bumblebee was there on a relic-finding mission. What&#039;s worse, Dani&#039;s pilot license was suspended, so unable to fly in Blades, she was partnered with Bumblebee. Though he grew jealous of the pair&#039;s growing bond, Blades was soon distracted by helping Optimus retrieve the relic from the ocean, and was later happy when Bumblebee saved Dani from quicksand. {{storylink|Odd Bot Out}} The rescue team was roped into completing a rail tunnel to the mainland, mainly because Mayor Luskey regarded the Bots as heavy machinery. When the [[Griffin Rock Express]] went out of control, the Bots had to rescue everyone on board, with the help of Frankie and her phasing technology. {{storylink|The Griffin Rock Express}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RiseOfTheHeroes Blades flies underground.jpg|thumb|right|260px]]&lt;br /&gt;
Following a game of [[Rescue Ball]] and an impromptu rescue mission, Blades&#039;s attempt to watch &#039;&#039;[[Cupcake Hoarders]]&#039;&#039; was thwarted when he was lured into a trap and kidnapped by Dr Morocco. Morocco used a memory-erasing ray on him and convinced him that the doctor had been assigned as the Rescue Bots&#039; liaison on Earth by Optimus Prime. Once the other Rescue Bots were similarly brainwashed, Morocco put Blades in charge and sent the team to a cavern under Griffin Rock to mine gold. Unfortunately Blades accidentally set off a methane explosion and when the Bots climbed out of the crater, they were confronted by the dastardly Burns family. {{storylink|Double Villainy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The suspicious Bots were taken back to the fire house, where the evidence soon convinced them that the Burns family was on their side and they&#039;d been misled by Morocco. Unfortunately the methane explosion cause the island to begin to sink, and given the choice between helping out or regaining their memories, the Bots chose the former option. Blades was relieved to discover he wasn&#039;t team leader though. With the help of some tech from Doc Greene, the team was able to raise the island once again, and Morocco was forced to restore their memories. {{storylink|Rise of the Heroes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BigGame Chase carries Blades.jpg|thumb|left|290px]]&lt;br /&gt;
During a routine inspection by Optimus, Blades and Dani encountered an unexpected pterodactyl. After they captured and tagged it, the team tracked the creature back to Wayward Island where they found a whole group of dinosaurs, one of which damaged Blades&#039;s tail rotor. The team was subsequently chased into a tar pit and had to be rescued by Optimus Prime. Once they established what the dinos were upset about, the team was able to get them to return to the underground cavern they&#039;d come from. {{storylink|Land Before Prime (episode)|Land Before Prime}} When Optimus was abducted by big game hunter [[Quint Quarry]], Heatwave, Chase and Blades headed to Quarry&#039;s island to mount a rescue. After catching Blades repeatedly with nets, the hunter managed to trap the trio in a cage and was about to take them off the island in his heli-jet when Optimus and Boulder came to their aid. {{storylink|Big Game}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the accidental creation of four extra Kades, Blades found himself having to take them all back to the first station after their squabbling caused an accident. He later attempted to rescue the rest of the team from a gas leak, but ended up himself needing rescuing by the quintet of Kades. {{storylink|Too Many Kades}} The team was sent ten years forward in time when they boarded the &#039;&#039;[[S.S. Phantom Voyager]]&#039;&#039;, however Boulder and Graham were able to reverse the time machine stored in the ship&#039;s hold, returning them to present day. {{storylink|Phantom of the Sea}} After having to deal with a flooding disaster, Blades and Heatwave had to try and cover for Chase and Boulder during their mission in space. {{storylink|Unfinished Business}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Switcheroo Blades eats yogurt.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the town was sealed inside an energy dome by Vigil, Blades and the others pursued the AI to try to beat it to the dome controls in the lab. Despite being injured during the chase, Blades beat Vigil to the lab along with Chase, but Vigil stuck them to the floor using the Collision Foam Cannon, leaving it to Frankie and Cody to save the day. {{storylink|No Place Like Dome}} Blades attempted to help Graham gain confidence to talk to [[Amy]] via role playing. He later saved the day, using &#039;&#039;[[Confident Me]]&#039;&#039; to lure a swarm of mutant army ants to a place where they could be successfully captured. {{storylink|Bugs in the System}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During a trip on the space elevator Asgard, Blades switched bodies with Dani. He binged on yogurt and potato chips, much to her disgust, and she forced him to exercise to work off the calories. For his part, he was smug when she found being a helicopter wasn&#039;t as much fun as she thought. They were eventually swapped back into their own bodies. {{storylink|Switcheroo}} Blades and the rest of the team were shrunken down to microscopic size so they could enter Kade&#039;s body and retrieve the [[scrubmite]]s he&#039;d accidentally ingested. {{storylink|Bot-Tastic Voyage}} Following Professor Baranova&#039;s abduction at the hands of Colonel Quarry, Blades scanned a pterodactyl alternate mode so he and the other Rescue Bots, plus Optimus, could masquerade as the dinobots Quarry wanted Doc Greene to build. Unfortunately Blades then found he could no longer transform, and ended up bringing Cody along by accident when Quarry took them all to an island. As Quarry was taking the other Autobots to be sold, Blades finally found the strength to transform so that he could rescue them. {{storylink|Quarry&#039;s Quarry}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AttackOfHumunagado Blades pterodactyl.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Blades, that isn&#039;t a dinosaur. Stop cheating!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The team visited Wayward Island to search for an energon trace, which Blades hoped would mean a visit from Bumblebee. They found only a caveman frozen in ice, who turned out to be still alive once he was thawed back in Griffin Rock. While the others helped &amp;quot;[[Ira]]&amp;quot; acclimate, Heatwave and Blades returned to Wayward Island and found cave paintings depicting Autobots in the caveman&#039;s era. {{storylink|Did You See What I Thaw?}} The team had to cope with giant Kaiju created when Doc Greene&#039;s new projector was used to screen &#039;&#039;[[Humungado|Attack of Humungado]]&#039;&#039;, and ended up using their dino modes to combat the beasts. {{storylink|The Attack of Humungado}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The mayor decided to honor the rescue team by holding [[Bot Appreciation Week]], however a clash in schedules resulted in the Burns family being off the island for the start. The Rescue Bots found they had to contend with the souvenir versions of themselves running amok thanks to Evan and Myles reprogramming them. {{storylink|All Bots Great and Small}} When Cody began experiencing repeated time, his foreknowledge allowed the rescue team to prevent a number of disasters and mishaps during the dedication of the town&#039;s new clock tower. {{storylink|Time After Time}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the discovery that the Burns family had a pirate in their ancestry and the suspension of the rescue team, Blades took Woodrow, Cody and Dani to look for pirate treasure, though he was too big to enter the cave they were led to, and built a firehouse out of sand while he waited. Clues eventually led the team to the treasure, and they were subsequently reinstated by the mayor. {{storylink|Pirates Ahoy}} When the Rescue Bots were assigned to training with [[High Tide]], Blades found the old bot particularly fearsome and messed up repeatedly. After taking some time to rescue a human in trouble, Blades earned a chewing out from High Tide. He later steadied an oil rig long enough for the other Rescue Bots to rescue Doc and Frankie. {{storylink|Turning the Tide}} When the time traveler [[Jules Verne]] visited, Blades helped apprehend Dr Morocco. {{storylink|The Last of Morocco}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Rescue Bots found two Autobots, [[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]] and [[Salvage (RB)|Salvage]], on Wayward Island, Optimus assigned the team to train the two newcomers. Blades was unimpressed with Blurr&#039;s lying about his past, but Optimus convinced the team to let Blurr have another chance. {{storylink|The New Recruits}} After hours of failed rescue simulations, Cody suggested more personal training for the newbies, so Blades constructed a highlight reel of his own rescues. {{storylink|Rescue Bots Academy}} After Blurr stole the ship and a solar flare knocked out the island&#039;s power, Blades was reluctantly forced to fly rescues in the dark, backwards. Blurr later returned having saved the island from a rogue satellite, and was assigned elsewhere along with Salvage. {{storylink|A New Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rescue Bots were forced to hunt for Servo after the dog went missing in action and left a trail of destruction in his wake. {{storylink|Four-Legged Hero}} Blades joined Boulder, Chase and the kids in guarding some woodpeckers Boulder found, however they were forced to go into damage control mode when word of the discovery got out, and had to deal with a fire in Blossom Vale. {{storylink|Endangered Species}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Chase injured himself, Blades prescribed a week of rest off his feet, and as a result Chase took the job of dispatcher and managed to send the team on a number of false alarms. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RB)|More than Meets the Eye}} When Doc Greene&#039;s [[Tone-O-Tuner]] caused everyone in town to sing instead of talk, Blades took part in a video call to educate new recruits and though reluctant, ended up singing a duet with Dani. {{storylink|I Have Heard the Robots Singing}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Blades and the other Rescue Bots took part in the opening of a time capsule, during which a quantum crystal mishap resulted in the entire island being teleported to the [[Arctic]]. The four Bots had to deice the generators so that the island&#039;s dome could be raised. {{storylink|Now and Then}} Blades and Dani attempted to go for help, only to find that the conditions were too harsh and Heatwave had to help them return to town. As the team enacted a plan to fill the dome with floatium and fly the island back, the Rescue Bots had their work cut out keeping people safe. The journey continued, but the Rescue Bots were forced to use their own energon to power the dome. They successfully reached Griffin Rock&#039;s old location, and after some medical attention, the Rescue Bots recovered. Optimus gave them a new mission, to let the rest of the town in on their secret. {{storylink|Today and Forever}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BridgeBuilding Blades fan club.jpg|thumb|right|350px]]&lt;br /&gt;
Despite Blades being in favor, three years on they still hadn&#039;t told the humans about themselves. An invasion by the [[Velgrox]], which Blades found out about when they captured Dani, resulted in the four Rescue Bots having to reveal themselves to the townsfolk. {{storylink|New Normal}} Blades immediately started organizing his own fan club, however he proved unable to interest any of the townsfolk in joining and had to offer free helicopter rides instead. {{storylink|Bridge Building}} When a race between Blades and Heatwave ended in an emergency situation, Blades had to help clean up the mess. Heatwave subsequently restricted the team to their official duties and had Blades flying patrols over the island. It was not long after that the team encountered a new Rescue Bot named [[Quickshadow]]. {{storylink|Arrivals}} &lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoilers|Plus One (RB)|May 14}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Quickshadow assigned him and Dani to fly over the island while Heatwave transported dangerous chemicals for Doc. After a mishap spread acid clouds around downtown, he carried Heatwave back to the clouds to help neutralize them. {{storylink|Plus One (RB)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Prevenge====&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Parvesh Cheena]] (English)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Blades had been left alone back at the Rescue Bots command center when he was abducted by a mysterious force, pulled through a trans-dimensional portal to another universe. He found himself within a metallic labyrinth, where he met the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]. Several cannons then popped up throughout the corridor, prompting Snarl to tell the Rescue Bot to draw out his swords. A bewildered Blades explained to Snarl that his blades were for flying, not fighting! Snarl picking up the slack, the duo made their way to the middle of the maze via a &amp;quot;graphic and expensive-looking battle sequence.&amp;quot; Upon reaching their destination, Blades was relieved to find an authority figure in the form of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. He also met five other &#039;bots who had similarly been abducted from their home dimensions: [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]], [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]], [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]], [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]] and [[Sonar (BW)|Sonar]]. Blades found them all terrifying.&lt;br /&gt;
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A mysterious voice then made itself heard, and stated that it had brought the group together in a ploy to get revenge on the Autobots. Blades pointed out that a bunch of them weren&#039;t Autobots, and asked to be excused from the whole brouhaha. The voice declared that it didn&#039;t care about the semantics of their factions, and unleashed a &amp;quot;horde&amp;quot; of Sharkticons on them... and by a horde, it meant a single sickly and rusted Sharkticon. Embarrassed, the group&#039;s abductor ordered them to fight to the death instead of bothering with the Sharkticon. Blades had difficulty wrapping his head around the idea that someone could fight so hard with their friends or coworkers that they&#039;d just drop dead, before it was explained to him what the voice actually meant. This only served to terrify Blades further, who pondered that this was weird way to learn a valuable lesson about responsibility and teamwork.&lt;br /&gt;
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Annoyed that its prisoners weren&#039;t killing one another already, the voice threatened to detonate a Dark Energon bomb if they didn&#039;t get on with it. But Blades managed to bluff his captor into admitting that he didn&#039;t have a bomb, using some of the &amp;quot;mad scientist lingo&amp;quot; he had picked up around Griffin Rock. The architect behind the whole plot revealed himself to be the [[Skuxxoid]], whom Snarl dealt with in short order. The abductees, now left to devise a way to get themselves back to their homes, began to brainstorm on how to accomplish such a feat. They settled on all laughing together, as characters in cheesy cartoons are prone to do when an episode comes to an end. This, surprisingly enough, worked out. Finding himself back in Griffin Rock, Blades was puzzled over the fact that he hadn’t gotten any character building lesson out of his adventure... He decided that the only thing he learned was that weird things just happen sometimes. {{storylink|Prevenge}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial appearances==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]], [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], [[Chase (RB)|Chase]], Blades and [[Boulder]] rushed out of [[Fire Station Prime]] in response to a nearby fire. They watched Heatwave put out the blaze, then all posed heroically in a v-formation. {{storylink|Commercial#Rescue Bots|Rescue Bots toys commercial}}&lt;br /&gt;
* The Rescue Bots responded to a fire emergency. Once on-scene, Blades energized his hook weapon to better deal with the situation. {{storylink|Commercial#Rescue Bots|Energize figures commercial}}&lt;br /&gt;
* A child playing with the &amp;quot;Optimus Primal&amp;quot; Rescue Bots toy was turned into an animated version of himself and met with the Rescue Bots! While he directed a rescue operation for Chase, Blades watched from afar in his pterodactyl mode. {{storylink|Commercial#Rescue Bots|Rescue Bots Optimus Primal toy commercial}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Rescue Bots===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Rescue-Bots-Blades.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|If it&#039;s all the same to you, I&#039;d rather just hide in the toy box.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Copter-Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Rescue Bot, 2011)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades transforms into an orange and white rescue helicopter of a likely fictitious origin, but with design details common to several real-life helicopters. In keeping with the simplified transformations of the line, Blades can be transformed from helicopter to robot simply by twisting the knob on his propeller. His rotors are free-spinning in this mode, and the design of his tail / legs is such that he can be held by the bottom portion of the tail beneath the tail rotor. Care must be taken, however, as the free-spinning nature of his blades means that they can sometimes spin when the knob is twisted.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/RBBlades/blades.htm More information on Blades at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy Energize Blades.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Copter-Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Rescue Bot, 2013)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Rescue hook&lt;br /&gt;
:A redeco of the original mold for the line&#039;s &#039;&#039;Energize&#039;&#039; [[subline imprint]], Blades&#039;s arms and the cap on his rotors are transparent blue plastic. He has also been retooled to remove the Autobot insignia on his chest in favor of a Rescue Bot insignia. He comes with a &amp;quot;rescue hook&amp;quot; accessory, that he can hold or attach to the underside of his landing skids.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy Blades&amp;amp;DrMorocco.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|ARRRGH! Avast ye scallywag!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Copter-Bot &amp;amp; Dr. Morocco &#039;&#039;&#039; (Figure 2-Pack, 2013)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades is a non-transforming PVC figure with basic articulation. He is sculpted after his on-screen appearance, and features his &#039;&#039;Energize&#039;&#039; rescue hook tool in place of his left hand. Blades is packaged with a static PVC figure of [[Thaddeus Morocco|Dr. Morocco]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/RBPVCBlades/blades.htm More information on PVC Blades at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy BeamBoxBlades.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|Argh! if only I had me eye-patch to finish the look.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Copter-Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Beam Box Figure, 2013)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades is a static plastic figure in a similar style to his 2-Pack release, mounted on a &#039;rocky&#039; base. Placing Blades inside the [[Beam Box]] Game System allows him to be played in-game.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy MiniDinoBlades.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Rescue Dinobot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Mini Dino, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades the Rescue Dinobot is a small figure that autotransforms into a robotic pterodactyl. The toy lost huge swathes of [[paint operation]]s between initial [[stock photography]] and the final toy. This toy has the distinction of being the first Rescue Bot figure with functional [[articulation]], having swivels at the arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/RBDinoBlades/blades.htm More information on Dinobot Blades at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy EpicBlades.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.85]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Flight-Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Epic Figure, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
:Epic Blades is a 12-inch-tall non-transforming figure. His chest opens up to fit a 2-Pack human figure, and features 5mm fist holes to hold rescue tool accessories from other figures.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy Blades and Dani.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Flight-Bot &amp;amp; Dani Burns&#039;&#039;&#039; (Figure 2-Pack, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades is another articulated PVC figure, this time in a new rescue jet body. He is packaged with a static PVC figure of [[Dani Burns]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/RBPVCBlades/blades.htm More information on Rescan PVC Blades at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RBtoy RescanBlades.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Flight-Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Rescan, 2014)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blades is a new transforming mold, about two-thirds the size of his original toy. He transforms into a rescue jet, and, like other 2014 figures, is missing several paint details seen on his packaging stock photos.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/RBBlades/blades.htm More information on Rescan Blades at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blades the Flight Bot&#039;&#039;&#039; (Rescan 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
:Released in the fourth wave of 2015 Rescan figures, Blades is functionally a smaller version of his original toy but features a more show-accurate design&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* His coloration and function are more reminiscent of [[Evac (disambiguation)|Evac]] than the traditional, Decepticon fighting interpretation of previous versions of [[Blades (disambiguation)|Blades]].&lt;br /&gt;
* For [[Christmas]] [[2013]], [[Hub Network|The Hub]] aired a special &amp;quot;[[My Little Pony]]: Friendship Is Magic&amp;quot; video yule log. This hour-long special consisted of music and cameo appearances by several characters or pieces from Hub properties in addition to the ponies themselves. Among the characters who made cameos were [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Beast Hunters Bumblebee]] (who beeped as he drove across the screen), Rescue Bots Blades (who stumbled onto the screen before being pulled back off), Strawberry Shortcake, Lil&#039; Bat (mascot for The Aquabats), a Sorry! game piece, a character from &amp;quot;Pound Puppies&amp;quot;, the main lead from &amp;quot;SheZow!&amp;quot;, the Mane Six from &#039;&#039;MLP: FiM&#039;&#039; (in what can only be considered a jumpscare), and several characters from the &amp;quot;Littlest Pet Shop&amp;quot; cartoon. This special was aired back-to-back for four hours on Christmas morning, possibly as a means of giving the bulk of the network staff a chance to spend Christmas morning with their families. &lt;br /&gt;
* Before his new setting made it largely unnecessary, Blades functioned as the team&#039;s field medic.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hungarian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Penge&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Blade&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
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		<title>Plus One (RB)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Episode synopsis. Not sure I heard the chemical name correctly, but it should be clear what I meant.&lt;/p&gt;
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|airdate=[[May 7]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;When Heatwave invites her to take a turn at leadership, Quickshadow upsets the Rescue Team&#039;s dynamic.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] recaps [[Arrivals|the previous episode]] for us, then runs a search through Cybertronian records for [[Quickshadow]], only to come to a worrying realization: according to the official records, she doesn&#039;t exist! [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] and the rest of the rescue team are showing her around elsewhere; Blades offers to throw her a welcome party, but she says that she&#039;s not really a fan of parties. [[Dani Burns|Dani]] asks how many Rescue Bots there are, and the team is explaining that they don&#039;t really know when Chase shows up to reveal what he&#039;s learned. Quickshadow points out that as an undercover agent, she&#039;s not listed under her real name, and provides a number of false names which are in the database. She gushes about her job a bit. [[Cody Burns|Cody]] says that it sounds like a spy movie, and [[Kade Burns|Kade]] realizes that he recognizes her from the &amp;quot;Maven Danger, Secret Agent&amp;quot; series of films; she apparently scanned her vehicle mode from the main character&#039;s car. Cody requests a ride, but Quickshadow reacts with horror before the others explain that it&#039;s normal for humans to ride inside Cybertronians here. Quickshadow reveals her mission: Optimus sent her to teach all of them how to operate alone, as she does. [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] arrives, is introduced to Quickshadow, and tells the team that he&#039;s expecting a shipment of the highly volatile chemical fotolyte, which is prone to forming large acid clouds when jostled. It&#039;s coming in via the groundbridge, and he&#039;d like the team&#039;s help transporting it up to the lab. &lt;br /&gt;
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They&#039;re cut off in their planning by a small fire at the gas station. Quickshadow decides to stay behind at the fire house and watch how the team works. She is unimpressed by the lack of a cohesive plan. Meanwhile, back at the gas station, the fire spreads into the mechanical area. [[Ernie]] the mechanic, fleeing, falls into a pit and twists his ankle. The team manages to put out the fire, only to discover that Quickshadow has already extracted Ernie; she apologizes, but says that they have a lot to learn from her. &lt;br /&gt;
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Quickshadow starts lecturing the bots on the importance of the individual after they get home, while the Burnses hide behind the door and listen in. The team is unhappy with her assertions that each of them should consider themselves the most important member of the team, and after her lecture, [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] takes out his frustration on a training dummy. She offers to spar with him after correcting his stance, and wins in a few seconds. The second round goes much the same way. She then leaves, and the Rescue Bots take the opportunity to vent about her without her listening. Blades is particularly annoyed by her constant rhetorical questions. [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] calls to tell them that Doc&#039;s shipment will be arriving momentarily, and Cody suggests that the team let Quickshadow run this mission as a learning experience for everyone. &lt;br /&gt;
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She feels that none of the team members should really need to know what anyone else is doing. [[Boulder]] and [[Graham Burns|Graham]] are assigned to clear the route ahead of Heatwave and Kade, who are pulling the trailer with the fotolyte; Chase and Chief Burns are to patrol the perimeter, and Dani and Blades keep track of everything from above. Cody and Quickshadow will watch from the command center to make sure everything&#039;s going okay. The team attempts to [[roll out]], but Quickshadow cuts them off and tells them that they aren&#039;t going to be using the catchphrase or otherwise talking to each other. Everything is going okay, although somewhat tensely, until [[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]] accidentally wanders onto the route. Quickshadow orders Blades and Dani to redirect him, but he accidentally cuts off a tree branch in front of Heatwave in the process. As the trailer rolls over the branch, the last crate falls off the back, and one of the canisters opens and starts leaking. &lt;br /&gt;
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Heatwave and Kade immediately realize the problem, but opt to continue their mission. Quickshadow agrees to let everyone talk to each other, and reveals that she doesn&#039;t actually have a backup plan - she&#039;d been so focused on making sure the crates arrived safely, she didn&#039;t think of what would happen if they didn&#039;t. Chase reveals that he, however, does; Doc Greene has a chemical that can neutralize the fotolyte cloud ready at his lab. Quickshadow turns over command to Heatwave and heads out with Cody to pick up the neutralizer. Boulder, finished with his task, manages to stop further leakage. Quickshadow arrives at Doc&#039;s lab and retrieves the neutralizer; as she, Cody, and Doc are heading out, Heatwave arrives with his cargo. &lt;br /&gt;
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When Quickshadow arrives at the fire, Doc realizes that he forgot to bring something to disperse the neutralizer with. Fortunately, Blades immediately arrives carrying Heatwave. He loads one canister into his spray system, Quickshadow takes the other, and together they clear the cloud. Quickshadow admits that it&#039;s nice working with a team sometimes, but also explains that she&#039;s done working with the Griffin Rock Rescue Bots because there&#039;s not actually anything they can learn from her; next, she&#039;s going to the mainland to instruct Blurr and Salvage. Heatwave wishes her good luck, and she drives off into the distance. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Arrivals&amp;diff=1090855</id>
		<title>Arrivals</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Arrivals&amp;diff=1090855"/>
		<updated>2016-05-01T17:44:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Caught another reference.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; episode|the &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; comic miniseries|Transformers Animated: The Arrival}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 81&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Bridge Building&lt;br /&gt;
|next=Plus One (RB)&lt;br /&gt;
|image=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Arrivals&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[April 30]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Top Draw Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Nicole Dubuc]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Frank Squillace]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As Frankie struggles to adjust to life with her baby sister, the Bots are surprised by a new arrival of their own.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CeCe Greene|CeCe]] is busily &amp;quot;learning by exploring her environment&amp;quot;, which mostly means playing with and trying to eat [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]]&#039;s stuff, as far as Frankie is concerned. She calls [[Cody Burns|Cody]] to commiserate, but notices that the camera seems to be bouncing around a lot. It turns out he&#039;s riding inside [[Blades (RB)|Blades]], who&#039;s having a footrace with [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] after betting he could run faster. Unfortunately, as they close in on their goal, Heatwave smashes into Mr. Cullen&#039;s rocket, which bounces down the street dripping rocket fuel, which quickly ignites. Kade attempts to instruct Heatwave to use his foam sprayers to stop the fire, but Heatwave assumed this was going to be a simple trip and didn&#039;t load up. Blades removes the rocket as Dani calls for help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] is giving a Career Day presentation to a bunch of children and [[Boulder]] is attending [[Ms. Lima]]&#039;s book club at the library. When called, they quickly depart to bring fire extinguishers to the emergency. The fire is readily extinguished, but it leaves a smoking hole where there was originally a street. [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] is very disappointed in the rescue team, although Cody reassures the bots that it&#039;s normal to have trouble balancing work and social life. [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] comes over to check on the [[GroundBridge]], which malfunctioned [[Bridge Building|last episode]]. He&#039;s not sure what&#039;s wrong with it; everything checks out. He instructs [[Dither]] to go through a few times, and every trip arrives at the mainland training center. The team concludes that the malfunction was a one-off incident and decides to try again. Cody calls Frankie to ask if she wants to come over to try it out, but she&#039;s busy babysitting CeCe. The bots head through on their own, and arrive in the middle of a bridge. Their desperate maneuvers to avoid hitting anyone send a minivan off the bridge; it hangs precariously from a bit of the guard rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Rescue Bots move in to save the minivan, but a mysterious mud-splattered sports car intervenes before they can do anything. The GroundBridge reappears moments later, and they quickly retreat back to the fire house. The mysterious car returns with them. When Chief tries to talk to the driver, they don&#039;t respond, and when he opens the door, there&#039;s no one inside. The team decides that they&#039;ll run the plates to see if they can find the owner later, and nobody will be using the GroundBridge until they have some idea what&#039;s wrong with it. Heatwave is fine with that; after the earlier incident, he feels it would be good for everyone to spend a while doing drills at the fire house and patrols. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later that night, the mysterious car vanishes into one of the underground tunnels out of the fire house.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The next morning, Blades is completing his twentieth patrol of the island. Heatwave refuses to let anyone go back to the fire house until they&#039;ve found an emergency, which is a problem, because Griffin Rock is being much more peaceful than usual. [[Don]] isn&#039;t even speeding. Frankie and Cody are taking an opportunity to go for a walk with CeCe in her self-propelled floating stroller. Suddenly, across the street, a man trips and drops his glasses just as Don comes speeding by. The mysterious car rushes to get between them, deflecting Don; nobody gets hurt. Cody, recognizing the car, calls [[Graham Burns|Graham]] to check if the mysterious car from the night before is still in the garage. Graham quickly confirms that it isn&#039;t. Meanwhile, CeCe has figured out how to control her stroller and wandered off down the block. Chase spots a double-parked car, which everyone is willing to call an emergency so they can get home, until the mysterious car appears to relocate it. Chase attempts to pull the mysterious car over, but it peels out of there, cutting off a poultry truck to get rid of Chase trailing it. There&#039;s no evidence of its driver on the security cameras, so nobody&#039;s sure how it could have gotten away. Blades briefly suspects [[Thaddeus Morocco|Dr. Morocco]], but they&#039;re cut off in their theorizing by Cody calling in. CeCe has vanished, and is heading into the bank; as Frankie and Cody arrive, she manages to reprogram the code to the high-security vault and lock herself inside. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Harrison futilely attempts to unlock the vault, which they recently had rebuilt by Doc. Frankie frantically calls her father, who assures her that it&#039;s not her fault and wonders out loud how CeCe managed to open the vault. Turns out he made a very similar device as a toy for her, including the code. The Rescue Bots break down the door to the vault, only to discover that she&#039;s no longer inside. Instead, her stroller is abandoned, a hole has been cut in the floor of the vault, and a tunnel has been dug leading from the bank to a nearby parking garage. Blades and Heatwave are immediately sent to guard the outside of the garage while Boulder and Chase go through the tunnel. The mysterious car is the only one in the garage; Chief opens the door to reveal an unharmed CeCe, who Frankie hugs. Graham hits on an unusual possible solution for the question of who&#039;s been driving the car: what if the car is a Cybertronian? Blades points out that they all have fairly obvious insignia, which the car is lacking. Heatwave hoses the mud splattering the car&#039;s front away to reveal a Rescue Bot insignia. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cover blown, the car transforms into [[Quickshadow]], who introduces herself and comments that she&#039;d expected Heatwave to be taller. She then advises the other bots to shut their mouths for fear of flying lobsters. Chief greets her and asks why she didn&#039;t introduce herself sooner; she apologizes for interfering in their rescues and explains that she&#039;s working under cover, but had to intervene when she saw CeCe get trapped in the bank vault. Optimus sent her, and she&#039;s not surprised that she didn&#039;t warn the Rescue Bots; &amp;quot;you know how Primes are&amp;quot;. She&#039;s also the reason for the GroundBridge malfunctions. The bridge itself works perfectly well, but she&#039;s been hijacking the signal so she could try to get to Griffin Rock using it. She&#039;s also been briefed on the members of the rescue team, although she can&#039;t tell them what her mission is yet. Chief suggests they move to the fire house for further conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frankie and Cody discuss CeCe briefly, and they conclude that while change is constant, family will always love each other. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Boulder]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Quickshadow]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frankie Greene]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CeCe Greene]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Baranova]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cody Burns]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dani Burns]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kade Burns]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cullen|Mr Cullen]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hayley]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lima|Ms. Lima]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Burns]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Don]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ugh, CeCe tried to eat my equipment again. And ruined breakfast. It&#039;s so frustrating! I love her, but sometimes... she&#039;s really hard to like.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ugh, I totally understand. I grew up with Kade, remember?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Frankie&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Cody&#039;&#039;&#039; compare sibling problems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It was the best of timing, it was the worst of timing. Be right there, Heatwave.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Boulder&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Mr Cullen previously had an incident with his rocket in &amp;quot;[[One for the Ages]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The incident with the GroundBridge sending Heatwave and Chase to the desert occurred in the previous episode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*Blades thanks [[Primus]] for DVRs. We&#039;re hoping this doesn&#039;t imply DVRs are all Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Heatwave tells the rest of the team to &amp;quot;embrace your inner [[Wrecker]]s&amp;quot; when they&#039;re trying to break down the bank vault door. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;A Tale of Two Cities&#039;&#039; is, of course, a real novel by Charles Dickens.&lt;br /&gt;
* Quickshadow&#039;s appearances on-screen are marked by a musical motif similar to the James Bond theme.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Raininshadows&amp;diff=1090733</id>
		<title>User:Raininshadows</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Raininshadows&amp;diff=1090733"/>
		<updated>2016-05-01T06:04:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Created page with &amp;quot;Hi! I&amp;#039;m Rain. I mostly just browse, but I&amp;#039;m a fan of some of the less popular parts of the franchise, so sometimes I&amp;#039;ll end up writing up something because it doesn&amp;#039;t have a p...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Hi! I&#039;m Rain. I mostly just browse, but I&#039;m a fan of some of the less popular parts of the franchise, so sometimes I&#039;ll end up writing up something because it doesn&#039;t have a page/section yet. I also do occasional minor edits, mostly markup fixes.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Arrivals&amp;diff=1090710</id>
		<title>Arrivals</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Arrivals&amp;diff=1090710"/>
		<updated>2016-05-01T03:26:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: An episode synopsis.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; episode|the &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; comic miniseries|Transformers Animated: The Arrival}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 81&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Bridge Building&lt;br /&gt;
|next=Plus One (RB)&lt;br /&gt;
|image=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Arrivals&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[April 30]], [[2016]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[DHX Media]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Top Draw Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=&lt;br /&gt;
|director=&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As Frankie struggles to adjust to life with her baby sister, the Bots are surprised by a new arrival of their own.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[CeCe Greene|CeCe]] is busily &amp;quot;learning by exploring her environment&amp;quot;, which mostly means playing with and trying to eat [[Frankie Greene|Frankie]]&#039;s stuff, as far as Frankie is concerned. She calls [[Cody Burns|Cody]] to commiserate, but notices that the camera seems to be bouncing around a lot. It turns out he&#039;s riding inside [[Blades (RB)|Blades]], who&#039;s having a footrace with [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] after betting he could run faster. Unfortunately, as they close in on their goal, Heatwave smashes into Mr. Cullen&#039;s rocket, which bounces down the street dripping rocket fuel, which quickly ignites. Kade attempts to instruct Heatwave to use his foam sprayers to stop the fire, but Heatwave assumed this was going to be a simple trip and didn&#039;t load up. Blades removes the rocket as Dani calls for help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] is giving a Career Day presentation to a bunch of children and [[Boulder]] is attending [[Ms. Lima]]&#039;s book club at the library. When called, they quickly depart to bring fire extinguishers to the emergency. The fire is readily extinguished, but it leaves a smoking hole where there was originally a street. [[Charlie Burns|Chief Burns]] is very disappointed in the rescue team, although Cody reassures the bots that it&#039;s normal to have trouble balancing work and social life. [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]] comes over to check on the [[GroundBridge]], which malfunctioned [[Bridge Building|last episode]]. He&#039;s not sure what&#039;s wrong with it; everything checks out. He instructs [[Dither]] to go through a few times, and every trip arrives at the mainland training center. The team concludes that the malfunction was a one-off incident and decides to try again. Cody calls Frankie to ask if she wants to come over to try it out, but she&#039;s busy babysitting CeCe. The bots head through on their own, and arrive in the middle of a bridge. Their desperate maneuvers to avoid hitting anyone send a minivan off the bridge; it hangs precariously from a bit of the guard rail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Rescue Bots move in to save the minivan, but a mysterious mud-splattered sports car intervenes before they can do anything. The GroundBridge reappears moments later, and they quickly retreat back to the fire house. The mysterious car returns with them. When Chief tries to talk to the driver, they don&#039;t respond, and when he opens the door, there&#039;s no one inside. The team decides that they&#039;ll run the plates to see if they can find the owner later, and nobody will be using the GroundBridge until they have some idea what&#039;s wrong with it. Heatwave is fine with that; after the earlier incident, he feels it would be good for everyone to spend a while doing drills at the fire house and patrols. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later that night, the mysterious car vanishes into one of the underground tunnels out of the fire house.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The next morning, Blades is completing his twentieth patrol of the island. Heatwave refuses to let anyone go back to the fire house until they&#039;ve found an emergency, which is a problem, because Griffin Rock is being much more peaceful than usual. [[Don]] isn&#039;t even speeding. Frankie and Cody are taking an opportunity to go for a walk with CeCe in her self-propelled floating stroller. Suddenly, across the street, a man trips and drops his glasses just as Don comes speeding by. The mysterious car rushes to get between them, deflecting Don; nobody gets hurt. Cody, recognizing the car, calls [[Graham Burns|Graham]] to check if the mysterious car from the night before is still in the garage. Graham quickly confirms that it isn&#039;t. Meanwhile, CeCe has figured out how to control her stroller and wandered off down the block. Chase spots a double-parked car, which everyone is willing to call an emergency so they can get home, until the mysterious car appears to relocate it. Chase attempts to pull the mysterious car over, but it peels out of there, cutting off a poultry truck to get rid of Chase trailing it. There&#039;s no evidence of its driver on the security cameras, so nobody&#039;s sure how it could have gotten away. Blades briefly suspects [[Thaddeus Morocco|Dr. Morocco]], but they&#039;re cut off in their theorizing by Cody calling in. CeCe has vanished, and is heading into the bank; as Frankie and Cody arrive, she manages to reprogram the code to the high-security vault and lock herself inside. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Harrison futilely attempts to unlock the vault, which they recently had rebuilt by Doc. Frankie frantically calls her father, who assures her that it&#039;s not her fault and wonders out loud how CeCe managed to open the vault. Turns out he made a very similar device as a toy for her, including the code. The Rescue Bots break down the door to the vault, only to discover that she&#039;s no longer inside. Instead, her stroller is abandoned, a hole has been cut in the floor of the vault, and a tunnel has been dug leading from the bank to a nearby parking garage. Blades and Heatwave are immediately sent to guard the outside of the garage while Boulder and Chase go through the tunnel. The mysterious car is the only one in the garage; Chief opens the door to reveal an unharmed CeCe, who Frankie hugs. Graham hits on an unusual possible solution for the question of who&#039;s been driving the car: what if the car is a Cybertronian? Blades points out that they all have fairly obvious insignia, which the car is lacking. Heatwave hoses the mud splattering the car&#039;s front away to reveal a Rescue Bot insignia. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cover blown, the car transforms into [[Quickshadow]], who introduces herself and comments that she&#039;d expected Heatwave to be taller. She then advises the other bots to shut their mouths for fear of flying lobsters. Chief greets her and asks why she didn&#039;t introduce herself sooner; she apologizes for interfering in their rescues and explains that she&#039;s working under cover, but had to intervene when she saw CeCe get trapped in the bank vault. Optimus sent her, and she&#039;s not surprised that she didn&#039;t warn the Rescue Bots; &amp;quot;you know how Primes are&amp;quot;. She&#039;s also the reason for the GroundBridge malfunctions. The bridge itself works perfectly well, but she&#039;s been hijacking the signal so she could try to get to Griffin Rock using it. She&#039;s also been briefed on the members of the rescue team, although she can&#039;t tell them what her mission is yet. Chief suggests they move to the fire house for further conversation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frankie and Cody discuss CeCe briefly, and they conclude that while change is constant, family will always love each other. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Pale_Fire&amp;diff=1056923</id>
		<title>Pale Fire</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Pale_Fire&amp;diff=1056923"/>
		<updated>2016-02-16T23:53:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;The &#039;&#039;Pale Fire&#039;&#039; is a starship from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pale Fire&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is the personal starship of [[Squadron X]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;Pale Fire&#039;&#039; was used to transport Squadron X to the final showdown between Squadron X and the [[Wrecker]]s on [[Pova]]. Once the ship arrived, [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] brought down the &#039;&#039;Pale Fire&#039;&#039; with a single shot from his latest big gun. {{storylink|Bullets}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Wings Universe&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
After the &#039;&#039;[[Decimator]]&#039;&#039; was stolen by the Wreckers on [[Frellus IV]], Squadron X visited a spaceport on the other side of the planet and took a warship that was parked there, with Macabre dubbing it the &#039;&#039;Pale Fire&#039;&#039;. {{Storylink|Tornado - Decepticon Saboteur}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Its name is probably taken from Vladimir Nabokov&#039;s novel &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Pale_Fire|Pale Fire]]&#039;&#039;, an early work of metafiction with many layers and possible interpretations. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Decepticon starships]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 starships]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Wings Universe starships]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Roboid&amp;diff=1030192</id>
		<title>Roboid</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Roboid&amp;diff=1030192"/>
		<updated>2015-12-06T01:51:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoilers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Roboids are toy robots from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:FortMaxCuddles.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Ignore the guy in the middle.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Manufactured and sold by the former [[Decepticon]] entrepreneur [[Demus]] on [[Tebris VII]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Roboids&#039;&#039;&#039; are adorable mechanical pets that are popular with organic races throughout the galaxy. Roboids with forms resembling Earth horses are called [[Equinoid]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
As Demus himself explained to the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]], he branched out into making Roboids when he noticed that his domestic appliances sold better when they looked like they had faces. He found that the toy pets—with a limited battery life, a few limited phrases on a sound chip and some glow-in-the-dark panels—were extremely successful. {{storylink|Some Of My Best Friends Are Autobots}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, this tale of economic success hid a much darker secret. As [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the [[Tyrest Accord]] revealed to the Scavengers, Demus wasn&#039;t building the Roboids but instead capturing and lobotomising [[Transformer]]s with [[beast mode]]s and selling them to mechanoid-hating organics as torture dolls upon which they could vent their frustrations. After a series of escapades involving [[Equinoid]]s and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], the Scavengers tricked Fort Max into believing the Roboids&#039; lives were in danger and fled the planet in the &#039;&#039;[[Weak Anthropic Principle]]&#039;&#039;—but not before [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] left instructions on how to undo the damage Demus had wrought on the Roboids. They were subsequently brought aboard Fort Max&#039;s ship, presumably to be taken to a place with better equipment and repaired. {{storylink|Animals}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 technology]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Agent_113&amp;diff=1012943</id>
		<title>Agent 113</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Agent_113&amp;diff=1012943"/>
		<updated>2015-10-08T03:55:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoilers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
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{{disambig3|113}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{noname-designation}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Agent 113 is a heroic [[Autobot]] spy from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:MTMTE44 Agent113.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Agent 113&#039;&#039;&#039; has every reason to be paranoid. As an Autobot deep cover operative working within the [[Decepticon Justice Division]], he is constantly surrounded by some of the most inquisitive (and deadly) Decepticons. The information he gathers is invaluable, but is it any wonder he sometimes goes to extreme lengths to conceal his true identity?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
As part of the D.J.D., Agent 113 went by the codename [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}} During [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]&#039;s trial, [[Gripper (G1)|Gripper]] mentioned this Vos in his testimony. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}} In order to conceal his identity, Agent 113 would wait until the D.J.D. had a battle with Autobots and then he would shoot an Autobot right in his [[insignia]]. The bullet was not explosive, but instead housed a data chip with the secret information. [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] quietly recruited Autobots stationed in medical facilities, such as [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], to keep a look out for these bullets. {{storylink|Bullets}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Agent 113 communicated information regarding [[Garrus-9]]. The Decepticons had lost contact with the planet—scout parties do not return. {{storylink|Bullets}} {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1|Last Stand of the Wreckers #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At some point before he was posted to [[Kimia Facility|Kimia]], the Autobot [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] faced the D.J.D. and was hit in the shoulder by one of Agent 113&#039;s bullets. He attempted to repair the injury himself but the bullet remained inside him for years, causing a rust infection that, along with a case of extreme self-neglect, ultimately threatened to kill the metallurgist. Upon learning the cause of this injury, First Aid was able to instruct [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]] in the removal and retrieval of the bullet and Agent 113&#039;s message finally reached the Autobots. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} In this message he mentioned being compromised, and he was most likely killed by the D.J.D. not long after sending it—another Decepticon would later be seen using the Vos codename. Unfortunately much of the message had been corrupted by rust, so the Autobots could only make out references to a schism within the Decepticons as well as a too-late warning not to trust [[Brainstorm]]. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Double agents]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Spies]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Flamefeather_(RID)&amp;diff=1012936</id>
		<title>Flamefeather (RID)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Flamefeather_(RID)&amp;diff=1012936"/>
		<updated>2015-10-08T03:24:00Z</updated>

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{{disambig2|the Decepticon from &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039;|the Firecon from &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; |Flamefeather (G1)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Flamefeather is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:FireWhenReady Flamefeather attacks Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|350px|What is a fire and why does it, what&#039;s the word...?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Flamefeather&#039;&#039;&#039; is a dirty, fiery menace, on the ground or flapping through the sky. [[Earth]] isn&#039;t likely to enjoy him any more than he enjoys Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
Flamefeather was one of the criminals who escaped in the wreck of the [[Autobot]] prison ship &#039;&#039;[[Alchemor]]&#039;&#039;. Learning of a nearby spaceship in the [[Fun-A-Rama]] amusement park, he started a huge forest fire nearby...for some reason. If his goal was to distract the Autobots, he failed miserably, as the fire simply attracted their attention and gave away his identity. Meanwhile, Flamefeather broke into the park to take control of the spaceship and leave Earth; unfortunately for him, the spaceship was a 3D ride tying in with the upcoming blockbuster movie &#039;&#039;[[Space Battle 7]]&#039;&#039;. More unfortunately, the Autobots tracked him there, and [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] stomped him into submission. {{storylink|Fire, When Ready!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Flamefeather was briefly woken to be questioned regarding the whereabouts of [[Clipshade]], but claimed to not know who that was. {{storylink|Robots in Disguise issue 2|Robots in Disguise #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) Decepticons]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Benefit_500&amp;diff=993565</id>
		<title>Benefit 500</title>
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		<updated>2015-07-29T20:05:03Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;The Benefit 500 is a [[Velocitron|Velocitronian]] race from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Benefit 500&#039;&#039;&#039; is a race that takes place in the Velocitronian capital city, [[Delta]]. It is an open race, unlike most Velocitronian races, meaning that anyone can enter, even offworlders. It has only one rule - whoever crosses the finish line first wins. The winner gets to ask the planet&#039;s leader for anything they want, although they can be refused. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Race Against the Light|August 27, 2015}} &lt;br /&gt;
[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] entered the race only minutes before it started, and was placed next to the less-than-subtly-named [[Racemaster (G1)|Racemaster]]. [[Override (G1)|Override]], [[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]], and [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] were all watching from a private box. Blurr had a hard time dealing with the attacks of the other racers until [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]], controlling the racetrack through [[Navitas]], was able to throw obstacles into the path of his opponents and give him some boosts. He won, and appealed to Override and the watching Velocitronians to allow contact with Cybertron, as it was another planet they could race on. The Velocitronians burst into applause at this idea. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: IDW Generation 1]] [[Category: IDW Generation 1 Transformer culture]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Navitas&amp;diff=993469</id>
		<title>Navitas</title>
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		<updated>2015-07-29T17:37:36Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Navitas is a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
{{faceless}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Navitas&#039;&#039;&#039; was one of the [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titans]] created by the [[Knights of Cybertron]] millions of years ago to act as a living ship. He eventually colonized the planet [[Velocitron]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Millions of years ago, Navitas and 12 other colony Titans departed Cybertron to found new outposts of Cybertronian civilization. {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} Navitas, carrying a crew of scientists searching for new sources of energy, colonized the planet Velocitron. The scientists&#039; successes led to the development of Velocitron&#039;s racing-obsessed culture. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Race Against the Light|August 27, 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
Navitas&#039;s mind had been severely damaged by untold millennia of neglect - he constantly repeated the phrase &amp;quot;round and round&amp;quot; and forgot who [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] was mid-conversation. This meant that Windblade couldn&#039;t merge with him to control the racetrack for the [[Benefit 500]], in which Blurr was racing. Instead, she had to climb inside him and do it by hand. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Metrotitans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Knock_Out_(G1)&amp;diff=993467</id>
		<title>Knock Out (G1)</title>
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		<updated>2015-07-29T17:31:56Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Knockout}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Knock Out is a [[Velocitron]]ian [[Transformer]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:G1Knockout.jpg|thumb|right|200px|&amp;quot;Sir, reporting high levels of sass.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Knock Out&#039;&#039;&#039; is a product of his environment. As a native of [[Velocitron]], he&#039;s not only preoccupied with speed and racing, but is also fastidious about looking &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; while doing so. In his line of work as a weight-loss surgeon and aerodynamic specialist, he&#039;s constantly looking for physical flaws and imperfections to work his magic on... mostly on other &#039;bots.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CombinerWars5-Velocitron.jpg|left|thumb|350px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Knock Out was born from a [[hot spot]] inside one of the [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]s who left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to colonize other worlds. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade #4}} His [[Conjunx Endura]] was an atypically slow Velocitronian. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4}} [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] caught a glimpse of him racing another &#039;bot while she was merged with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]&#039;s mind. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Knock Out and [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] were investigating the possible sources of strange seismic activity, ultimately coming across the footprints left behind from the rampaging [[combiner]]s from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Combiner Wars Part 5}} The pair were sent as ambassadors to [[Cybertron]], and met with [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] to discuss becoming a part of the [[Council of Worlds]]. Negotations fell through, with Knock Out maintaining that Velocitron didn&#039;t need anything from neighboring planets, and the duo left the meeting chamber. Windblade tried to reason with the pair, and invited them to [[Maccadam&#039;s]] so that they could experience both Camien and Cybertronian cultures. Knock Out totally dissed [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] before returning home through Metroplex&#039;s [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4}} {{spoiler|Race Against the Light|August 27, 2015}} &lt;br /&gt;
During the Benefit 500, Knock Out watched with Moonracer and [[Override (G1)|Override]]. He failed to recognize Blurr at first, and was shocked when Windblade&#039;s tampering with [[Navitas]]&#039;s controls let her manipulate the racetrack to help Blurr win the race. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Knock Out is based on [[Knock Out (Prime)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Knock Out&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[//mscottwrites.tumblr.com/post/92633901891/red-car-with-yellow-rims-could-we-maybe-get-the-word Writer Mairghread Scott on her Tumblr blog.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Mairghread Scott later clarified that Knock Out&#039;s conjunx is the IDW Generation 1 iteration of [[Breakdown (WFC)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Breakdown]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mscottwrites.tumblr.com/post/122341451981/loved-the-new-windblade-issue-a-great-read-is Mairghread Scott&#039;s Tumblr]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, likely a wink at fans who believed that &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Knock Out&#039;s relationship with Breakdown was more than platonic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Velocitron]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Knock_Out_(G1)&amp;diff=993466</id>
		<title>Knock Out (G1)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Knock_Out_(G1)&amp;diff=993466"/>
		<updated>2015-07-29T17:28:22Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Knockout}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Knock Out is a [[Velocitron]]ian [[Transformer]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:G1Knockout.jpg|thumb|right|200px|&amp;quot;Sir, reporting high levels of sass.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Knock Out&#039;&#039;&#039; is a product of his environment. As a native of [[Velocitron]], he&#039;s not only preoccupied with speed and racing, but is also fastidious about looking &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; while doing so. In his line of work as a weight-loss surgeon and aerodynamic specialist, he&#039;s constantly looking for physical flaws and imperfections to work his magic on... mostly on other &#039;bots.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CombinerWars5-Velocitron.jpg|left|thumb|350px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Knock Out was born from a [[hot spot]] inside one of the [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]s who left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to colonize other worlds. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade #4}} His [[Conjunx Endura]] was an atypically slow Velocitronian. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4}} [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] caught a glimpse of him racing another &#039;bot while she was merged with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]&#039;s mind. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Knock Out and [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] were investigating the possible sources of strange seismic activity, ultimately coming across the footprints left behind from the rampaging [[combiner]]s from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Combiner Wars Part 5}} The pair were sent as ambassadors to [[Cybertron]], and met with [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] to discuss becoming a part of the [[Council of Worlds]]. Negotations fell through, with Knock Out maintaining that Velocitron didn&#039;t need anything from neighboring planets, and the duo left the meeting chamber. Windblade tried to reason with the pair, and invited them to [[Maccadam&#039;s]] so that they could experience both Camien and Cybertronian cultures. Knock Out totally dissed [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] before returning home through Metroplex&#039;s [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4}} {{spoiler|Race Against the Light|August 27, 2015}} During the Benefit 500, Knock Out watched with Moonracer and [[Override (G1)|Override]]. He failed to recognize Blurr at first, and was shocked when Windblade&#039;s tampering with [[Navitas]]&#039;s controls let her manipulate the racetrack to help Blurr win the race. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Knock Out is based on [[Knock Out (Prime)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Knock Out&#039;&#039;]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[//mscottwrites.tumblr.com/post/92633901891/red-car-with-yellow-rims-could-we-maybe-get-the-word Writer Mairghread Scott on her Tumblr blog.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Mairghread Scott later clarified that Knock Out&#039;s conjunx is the IDW Generation 1 iteration of [[Breakdown (WFC)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Breakdown]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mscottwrites.tumblr.com/post/122341451981/loved-the-new-windblade-issue-a-great-read-is Mairghread Scott&#039;s Tumblr]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, likely a wink at fans who believed that &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Knock Out&#039;s relationship with Breakdown was more than platonic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Velocitron]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Strongarm_(RID)&amp;diff=976921</id>
		<title>Strongarm (RID)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Strongarm_(RID)&amp;diff=976921"/>
		<updated>2015-06-08T02:03:03Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Strongarm}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Strongarm is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Strongarm_(RID).jpg|right|280px|thumb|Sunday best when you&#039;re posing for &#039;&#039;JoJo&#039;s Bizarre Adventure&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cadet &#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; sees a bright future in law enforcement ahead of her. She knows the regulations front-to-back, able to recall them by number with ease as needed (often to her teammates&#039; chagrin). She is full of seemingly-boundless energy, and is more than willing to throw herself into dangerous situations in order to collar a target. Being assigned to work with [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]], hero of the war with the Decepticons, is a sure sign that she&#039;s destined to go places! Maybe even all the way to [[Earth]]!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This enthusiasm for her job makes her a tenacious officer, but also difficult to work with. Bumblebee&#039;s rather loose command style doesn&#039;t quite gel with the cadet&#039;s by-the-rules approach, as she uses protocol to sometimes get around Bumblebee&#039;s orders. It also puts her directly at odds with [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], a bot who breaks rules almost habitually and constantly thumbs his nose at authority. She&#039;s not terribly thrilled about working with convicted criminal [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] either, but at least he doesn&#039;t specifically try and pick fights with her like Sideswipe does.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Constance Zimmer]] (English), [[Yui Kondō]] (Japanese)|[[Katia Sorrentino]] (Italian), [[Anne Düe]] (German), [[Cony Madera]], (Latin american spanish), [[Aya Hamza]] (Arabic).}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PilotPart1 Strongarm Cybertronian vehicle.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
A cadet partnered with Bumblebee, Strongarm helped him capture [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]]. Unfortunately for Bumblebee, she then insisted that regulations meant she had to accompany him on a trip to [[Earth]] after [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] appeared to him in a series of visions. There they found that the prison ship &#039;&#039;[[Alchemor]]&#039;&#039; had crashed, scattering [[Decepticon]] prisoners over the nearby area. {{storylink|Pilot (Part 1)}} Adopting a local vehicular form, Strongarm joined the team in recapturing the escaped Decepticon [[Underbite (RID)|Underbite]] before he could reach and devour nearby [[Crown City]]. The operation was a success, though she was unsure about the wisdom of allowing Sideswipe and [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] to remain on the team. {{storylink|Pilot (Part 2)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TrustExercises Strongarm points gun.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Strongarm uses her famous death stare.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Strongarm and Sideswipe continued having trouble working together, inadvertently resulting in Strongarm&#039;s comms being damaged. When the pair went sent on a mission to investigate fugitive signals, they split up, and Strongarm was captured by [[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]], who tried to convince her that he intended to dwell peacefully on Earth. She was freed by Sideswipe and Russell, though Steeljaw got away. {{storylink|Trust Exercises}} Strongarm and the team managed to capture [[Bisk (RID)|Bisk]]. They later encountered [[Chop Shop (RID)|Chop Shop]] and were unprepared for the Decepticon&#039;s ability to split into component parts. When Strongarm attempted to tackle one of his components, it resulted in Chop Shop taking Fixit as a new right arm, however the team were eventually successful in rescuing the Mini-Con and capturing the Decepticon. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RID)|More than Meets the Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sideswipe and Strongarm continued to squabble — when they went to a [[Crown City Museum of Natural History and Sciences|museum]], Strongarm alternated between doing so and towing Grimlock on a trailer. Splitting up, the team was unable to capture [[Terrashock]] until Bumblebee came up with a way to hunt the Decepticon on his own terms. {{storylink|W.W.O.D.?}} Strongarm searched the &#039;&#039;Alchemor&#039;&#039; crash site again but only turned up a [[Decepticon Hunter]], which she was unable to get working despite Fixit&#039;s instructions. During the mission to protect the generator at the dam, she was forced to help Grimlock back to the scrapyard, and was unable to help hunt for [[Thunderhoof]]. {{storylink|As the Kospego Commands!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CollectEmAll Strongarm rulebook.jpg|thumb|left|240px|Strongarm/rule book, BFFs]]&lt;br /&gt;
Feeling homesick, Strongarm began breaking out in hives, as well as relying more and more on the rulebook, which irritated Sideswipe as they searched for the Decepticon [[Filch]]. After some encouragement from Bumblebee, Strongarm broke several rules as they captured Filch, though she later wrote the others up anyway. {{storylink|Collect &#039;Em All}} When Grimlock turned on the other Autobots and stole Underbite&#039;s stasis pod, Strongarm&#039;s first instinct was that Grimlock had been pretending to be good all along. She, Bumblebee and Sideswipe tracked him to [[Crown River Dam]], where they discovered that he had been under the control of [[Minitron]]. {{storylink|True Colors}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After begging, Strongarm got her own solo mission, only to find that Bumblebee was following her. Despite several missteps, she managed to capture the Decepticon [[Springload (RID)|Springload]] with his help. {{storylink|Rumble in the Jungle}} Teamed with Bumblebee, Strongarm hunted [[Ped (RID)|Ped]] in subterranean tunnels, and was forced to help support part of Crown City when it was undermined by the Decepticon&#039;s digging. She later became trapped at the bottom of a pit during a later successful attempt to capture Ped. {{storylink|Can You Dig It?}} When Bumblebee was regressed to immaturity thanks to [[Quillfire]]&#039;s toxins, Strongarm saw the opportunity to test herself in a leadership role. After suffering a number of Bumblebee&#039;s pranks, she took Grimlock to go hunt Quillfire, only to have Bumblebee follow them. Following a jaunt on a carnival ride and Quillfire&#039;s incapacitation, Strongarm had Grimlock chain Bumblebee up until he recovered from the toxin. {{storylink|Adventures in Bumblebee-Sitting!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:OutOfFocus Strongarm towing Grimlock.jpg|thumb|right|330px]]&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Drift (RID)|Drift]] and [[Fracture (RID)|Fracture]] came to Earth to collect the bounty on Bumblebee, Strongarm was captured by the Decepticon to use as a ransom along with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Hunting Season}} Strongarm and Sideswipe continued their bickering, even as the team hunted the [[Skunkticon]] gang led by [[Malodor]], hampering efforts at several points during the chase. {{storylink|Out of Focus}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After discovering that Strongarm had been sneaking off the base, Sideswipe blackmailed her into doing undesirable jobs for him. After they tangled with Steeljaw&#039;s gang, Bumblebee revealed he already knew about Strongarm sneaking out, and Strongarm revealed she had been using a nearby carwash. {{storylink|Sideways (episode)|Sideways}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; shorts===&lt;br /&gt;
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Strongarm watched Grimlock and Fixit perform in a talent show. {{storylink|Fixit Jam}} She found a sleep-deprived Bumblebee struggling to come up with a catchphrase and suggested he take a break. {{storylink|To Catch a Phrase}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
Strongarm and Grimlock checked on a stasis pod, only to find it empty. After they tracked the Decepticon fruitlessly for some time, Bumblebee arrived to point them in the direction of the [[Fun-A-Rama]] amusement park, where the team found and captured [[Flamefeather (RID)|Flamefeather]]. {{storylink|Fire, When Ready!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; books===&lt;br /&gt;
When the Autobots detected [[Scuzzard]] on the loose, Strongarm, Bumblebee and Sideswipe managed to lure the Decepticon into a trap, though things got hairy for Strongarm for a while. The Decepticon was snatched from them by the newly-escaped Filch, and the Autobots were forced to track down and capture both of the birdbots. {{storylink|Bumblebee Versus Scuzzard}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Detecting Autobots signals at the docks, the Autobots stumbled on a fight between Underbite, Thunderhoof, and [[Slink]]&#039;s gang. Strongarm managed to tie up [[Sneak]] before having to help Sideswipe in his fight against Thunderhoof. She later netted Slink and [[Snitch]] as the Autobots captured Slink&#039;s gang. {{storylink|Sideswipe Versus Thunderhoof}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robots in Disguise (2015)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Legion}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2015 RID Cyberverse Strongarm.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Tonight&#039;s the night we got the truck, we&#039;re goin&#039; downtown gonna beat up drunks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legion Class, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)| Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; Legion figures, Strongarm transforms into a police SUV. In robot mode, her fists are compatible with 3mm-peg weapons, although she does not come with any herself. Her head is sculpted with her [[mouthplate|battle mask]] deployed. Her transformation had taken several cues from [[Ratchet_(WFC)#Cyberverse|Legion Class Ratchet]].&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her drivers-side door in vehicle mode, becoming her left arm in robot mode. Scanning this in the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; mobile game]] temporarily unlocks the Legion-Class Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked her already (at a cost of 500 energon cubes). This badge is accessible while she is still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/LegStrongarm/strongarm.htm More information on Legion Strongarm at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|OneStepChanger}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Onestepstrongarm.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Dispatch calls, &amp;quot;Are you doin&#039; something wicked?&amp;quot; No siree jack, we&#039;re just giving out tickets.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (One Step Changer, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese release date:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;[[July 25|7-25]]-[[2015]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;TED-10&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the first wave of [[One Step Changer]]s, Strongarm transforms from robot to police SUV in a single step. In robot mode, she has extremely limited posability, with just shoulder-swivels and some extra outward-swing thanks to her transformation. Her fists have [[5mm post]]-compatible holes.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her right shoulder in robot mode. Scanning this in the Robots in Disguise mobile game temporarily unlocksthe One Step Changer Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked them already. As it&#039;s on a folded-up robot bit and she&#039;s packaged in vehicle mode, there&#039;s no way to scan this while she is still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|Warrior}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:RIDtoy-StrongarmWarrior.jpg|thumb|300px|right|When no one&#039;s watching, she folds her back-kibble down and pretends it&#039;s a cape.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Adventuretoy-Strongarm.jpg|thumb|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Warrior Class, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese release date&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[March 21]] 2015&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;TAV03&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Rifle&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the first wave of Warrior-class figures, Strongarm transforms into a police SUV. This larger, more complex and posable version of the character includes a rifle accessory (with an odd permanent &amp;quot;blast effect&amp;quot; on the barrel-tip), which can be mounted using 5mm ports in both robot and vehicle mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her robot-mode right chestplate. Scanning this in the Robots in Disguise&#039; mobile game temporarily unlocks the Warrior-Class Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked them already. As she&#039;s packaged in robot mode, this badge is easily scannable while still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The [[TakaraTomy]] &#039;&#039;Adventure&#039;&#039; version of this toy (sold in the first wave of product) uses a deeper shade of blue, as well as having more complicated [[paint operation]]s. In vehicle mode she has a silver grill and blue striping on her hood, as well as more complicated striping on her side-panels. In robot mode, rather than having the solid-blue chestplate and helmet, she has much more show-accurate white-and-blue striping. Her scan-badge is also different, to be used in TakaraTomy&#039;s version of the app, though in-package it&#039;s covered by a dummy sticker to prevent pre-purchase scanning.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Greejeeber (Adventure)|Greejeeber]]. An unchanged version of this mold was also included in a VS two-pack along with [[Phantomjaw]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/Strongarm/strongarm.htm More information on Warrior Strongarm at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hero Mashers===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Pieces&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;9&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Crossbow&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the third wave of &#039;&#039;Transformers [[Hero Mashers]]&#039;&#039; —and the first of the &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;-themed product— Strongarm is a non-transforming action figure with ratchet-joints, about six inches tall. She has multiple peg-holes all over that can be used to mount any &#039;&#039;Hero Mashers&#039;&#039; accessory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:  She is designed with a removable head, forearms, upper legs and boots, all of which use the same clip-peg/hole joint. This means her pieces can be swapped around in any order, as well as swapped with any other &#039;&#039;Hero Mashers&#039;&#039; figure... which includes figures from [[Marvel Comics]], &#039;&#039;[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Jurassic Park|Jurassic World]]&#039;&#039;, meaning you can make some pretty freaky combinations.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Tiny Titans===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|TinyTitan}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Tiny Titans, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;3/12&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the inital assortment of [[Tiny Titans]], this version of Strongarm is a very small, minimally-painted soft-plastic figure of her in robot mode, sporting a battle-ready boxing stance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Sold in a [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] baggie (though there is a tiny window on the back to peek in and see what&#039;s inside), she comes with a collectible card with a scan-badge for the mobile game, which unlocks a random amount of Energon &amp;quot;currency&amp;quot; and a randomized bonus power-up item. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/TTStrongarm/strongarm.htm More information on &#039;&#039;Tiny Titans&#039;&#039; Strongarm at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (ストロングアーム &#039;&#039;Sutoronguāmu&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Tiěwàn&#039;&#039;&#039; (铁腕, &amp;quot;Ironhand&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Female Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Hero Mashers Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Law enforcement]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Tiny Titans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Russell Clay</title>
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		<updated>2015-06-08T01:57:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Removing expired spoiler tags.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Russell Clay is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:RID Russell Clay.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Russell &amp;quot;Rusty&amp;quot; Clay&#039;&#039;&#039; never expected a visit to his father&#039;s junkyard to have so much adventure. Sure, he expected [[Denny Clay|Denny]] to possibly obsess over his scrapy-sorry, &amp;quot;vintage salvage depot for the discriminating nostalgist,&amp;quot; all day, but upon meeting [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], as well as [[Strongarm (RID)|the]] [[Bumblebee (WFC)|rest of]] [[Fixit (RID)|the]] [[Grimlock (WFC)|team,]] Rusty has made it part of his duty to provide a place for the [[Autobot|Autobots]] to stay alongside his dad, who he had been recently getting to know better. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|potential]] [[Rad White|is]] [[Kicker Jones|strong]] [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|in]] [[Jack Darby (Prime)|this one.]]&lt;br /&gt;
== Fiction ==&lt;br /&gt;
===2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Stuart Allan]] (English), [[Tomo Muranaka]] (Japanese)|[[Andrea Oldani]] (Italian),[[Hamdi Abbas]] (Arabic), [[Luisa Wietzorek]] (German)}}&lt;br /&gt;
While his mother was in [[Copenhagen]], Russell unenthusiastically arrived at [[Vintage Salvage Depot for the Discriminating Nostalgist|Denny&#039;s scrapyard]] to stay. After he and his dad heard an explosion, Russell investigated what they&#039;d thought might be a meteorite, and instead ran into [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Underbite (RID)|Underbite]]. After he witnessed a battle between Underbite and [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s team, Russell realized the Decepticon was heading for his dad&#039;s scrapyard. {{Storylink|Pilot (Part 1)}} After Russell alerted his dad to the danger, Underbite became distracted by the sight of Crown City and started heading there. The Autobots and Denny set off in pursuit, leaving Sideswipe to look after Russell, however Russell had an idea and helped Sideswipe lure Underbite to a quarry, where the Decepticon was defeated. {{storylink|Pilot (Part 2)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Russell came up with a plan to disguise Sideswipe as a Decepticon, allowing them to rescue [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]] from [[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]] after she was kidnapped. {{storylink|Trust Exercises}} Bored with life in the scrapyard, Russell reluctantly went to a nearby football field where he befriended some of the local kids. Though he initially didn&#039;t feel included, [[Hank]] and [[Grimlock (RID)|Grimlock]] managed to persuade him to persevere, and once he found he had some skill at kicking a ball, he enjoyed playing football with the kids. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (RID)|More than Meets the Eye}} When Denny needed to pretend to be an archaeologist so they could get the Autobots into [[Crown City Museum of Natural History and Sciences|the museum]], Russell insisted on going too, and adopted the identity &amp;quot;McPlank&amp;quot;. Once they got in, he immediately ran off and encountered [[Terrashock]], but went on to help the Autobots capture the Decepticon and maintain their cover. {{storylink|W.W.O.D.?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Bumblebee instructed Denny and Russell not to sell a generator to some weirdos who said they were working for the [[Kospego]], as they were building a [[space bridge]] that could potentially destroy [[Earth]]. {{storylink|As the Kospego Commands!}} When [[Larry LaRue]] turned up wanting to put Denny&#039;s scrapyard on television, Russell thought it was a good idea. Not so much when Larry later sneaked back in and Russell had to try to prevent him discovering Fixit and Grimlock. {{storylink|Collect &#039;Em All}} When Grimlock suddenly turned on his teammates, Russell figured that the Dinobot was being controlled. He and Fixit determined it was the Decepticon [[Minitron]] and were able to warn the other Autobots. {{storylink|True Colors}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Russell found himself having to try to mediate between his father and Fixit when the pair fought over who was fixing what in the scrapyard. He eventually managed to get them to work together by sabotaging a piece of Cybertronian technology with a kazoo. {{storylink|Rumble in the Jungle}} Russell helped guard the Autobots&#039; energon supply, and also provided a diversion during a later attempt to trap [[Ped (RID)|Ped]]. {{storylink|Can You Dig It?}} After Bumblebee was regressed to immaturity, Russell figured that babysitting the Autobot leader would be easy. He and Sideswipe were left to keep Bee occupied, and pretty much failed to do so. {{storylink|Adventures in Bumblebee-Sitting!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Denny forbade Russell from going on any more missions. When [[Fracture (RID)|Fracture]] kidnapped Denny and the other Autobots in an attempt to capture Bumblebee, Russell tries unsuccessfully to bluff the Decepticon into thinking there were a fleet of warships on their way. Denny later reversed his decision and said Russell could go on missions again. {{storylink|Hunting Season}} He wouldn&#039;t let Russell have a [[Decepticon Hunter]] however. There are limits. {{storylink|Sideways (episode)|Sideways}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; shorts===&lt;br /&gt;
Once when looking for Fixit, Russell discovered that the Mini-Con was stuck to Grimlock&#039;s foot. His attempts at rescue were less than successful. {{storylink|Fixit Jam}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
Russell and Sideswipe goofed off running circles around the scrapyard until Bumblebee found out. Despite being restricted to the scrapyard by Denny, Russell talked Sideswipe into taking him to the [[Fun-A-Rama]] amusement park, where it turned out the other Autobots had tracked [[Flamefeather (RID)|Flamefeather]]. {{storylink|Fire, When Ready!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; books===&lt;br /&gt;
During spring break, Russell went with his dad to [[Doug&#039;s Den]] to pick up some old pinball machines. They were attacked on the way back by [[Scuzzard]], but managed to make it back to the scrapyard. Later he played football with Grimlock, resulting in the clumsy dinobot accidentally freeing Filch. {{storylink|Bumblebee Versus Scuzzard}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Russell&#039;s jerky schoolmates [[Joey (RID)|Joey]], [[Johnny (RID)|Johnny]] and [[Steve]] paid a visit to the scrapyard, but were scared off by the Autobots. {{storylink|Sideswipe Versus Thunderhoof}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Clay, Russell}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fiction-only characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) humans]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Character</title>
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		<updated>2015-04-14T04:33:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is the page for the &#039;&#039;&#039;TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Favorite Character Auditions&#039;&#039;&#039; entries. The rules are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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#You must pick your top three NON-COMBINED &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; characters, from any era. They must actually &#039;&#039;&#039;be&#039;&#039;&#039; Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.&lt;br /&gt;
##Combined form votes &#039;&#039;&#039;[[TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Combiner|go here!]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
#Take your top three list and &#039;&#039;&#039;put it in alphabetical order&#039;&#039;&#039;. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character&#039;s franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results. &lt;br /&gt;
#You &#039;&#039;&#039;cannot&#039;&#039;&#039; pick a specific version of &#039;&#039;&#039;Arcee, Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Rodimus, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.&#039;&#039;&#039; They&#039;ve already been inducted!&lt;br /&gt;
#However, &#039;&#039;&#039;you CAN vote&#039;&#039;&#039; for [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;&#039;&#039;! Hasbro considers him separate!&lt;br /&gt;
#Only one entry per user.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Hot Shot--&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Poll entry period ends at 8am on &#039;&#039;&#039;[[April 20]]th, 2015&#039;&#039;&#039;. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:13, 13 April 2015 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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==Poll entries==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Please put new nominations at the bottom! --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Impactor, Scrounge, Thunderclash--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:23, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Blaster, Optimus Primal, Prowl --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:52, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Elita One, Optimus Primal, Wreck-Gar--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 18:58, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Delta Magnus, Star Saber, Deszaras, Victory Leo -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia, Flareup, Windblade --[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:11, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Cheetor, Prowl, Wreck-Gar -- [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:15, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia, Prowl, Unicron -- [[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:24, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia, Heatwave, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:27, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:35, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Bluestreak, Mirage, Prowl -- [[User:Kazenokasa|Kazenokasa]] ([[User talk:Kazenokasa|talk]]) 20:03, 13 April 2015 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire, Prowl, Rhinox -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:36, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire, Optimus Primal, Prowl -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Use this!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:45, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Drift G1, Inferno BW, Mirage G1 -- [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 22:17, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ginrai, Heatwave, Star Saber -- [[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 22:55, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Demolishor, Hot Shot, Sideways -- [[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] ([[User talk:Stardust262|talk]]) 23:27, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire, Prowl, Windblade -- [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 00:33, 14 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Remember to put your nominations in alphabetical order! --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: TFWiki.net]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:TFWiki.net_2015_Transformers_Hall_of_Fame_Auditions/Combiner&amp;diff=960441</id>
		<title>MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Combiner</title>
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		<updated>2015-04-14T04:32:02Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;This is the page for the &#039;&#039;&#039;TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Favorite Combiner Auditions&#039;&#039;&#039; entries. The rules are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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#Pick your top three favorite &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; COMBINERS, from any era. They must be the &#039;&#039;&#039;combined forms,&#039;&#039;&#039; not individual robots from combiner teams. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.&lt;br /&gt;
##Individual character votes &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Transformers Wiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Character|go here!]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
#Take your top three list and &#039;&#039;&#039;put it in alphabetical order&#039;&#039;&#039;. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character&#039;s franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results. &lt;br /&gt;
#Only one entry per user.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Monstructor, Tripredacus, Rail Racer--&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Poll entry period ends at 8am on &#039;&#039;&#039;[[April 20]]th, 2015&#039;&#039;&#039;. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:22, 13 April 2015 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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==Poll entries==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Liokaiser, Magnaboss, Nexus Prime--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:24, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Computron, Predaking, Rail Racer --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:40, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:50, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Computron, Liokaiser, Battle Gaia -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
*Magnaboss, Nexus Prime, Tripredacus --[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:12, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:29, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Big Rescue Force, Defensor, Mighty Robot --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:39, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Bruticus, Defensor, Menasor -- [[User:Kazenokasa|Kazenokasa]] ([[User talk:Kazenokasa|talk]]) 20:07, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Devastator, Menasor, Raiden -- [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 21:33, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Bruticus, Menasor, Tripredacus -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:37, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Bruticus, Devastator, Sixshot -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Use this!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:48, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Landcross, Liokaiser, Piranacon -- [[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 23:06, 13 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
* Bruticus, Rail Racer, Superion -- [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2015 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Remember to put your nominations in alphabetical order! --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Strongarm_(RID)&amp;diff=952974</id>
		<title>Strongarm (RID)</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-16T16:52:56Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobot|eliteguard}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Strongarm}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Strongarm is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Strongarm_(RID).jpg|right|200px|thumb|Sunday best when you&#039;re posing for &#039;&#039;JoJo&#039;s Bizarre Adventure&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] Cadet &#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; sees a bright future in law enforcement ahead of her. She knows the regulations front-to-back, able to recall them by number with ease as needed (often to her teammates&#039; chagrin). She is full of seemingly-boundless energy, and is more than willing to throw herself into dangerous situations in order to collar a target. Being assigned to work with [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]], hero of the war with the Decepticons, is a sure sign that she&#039;s destined to go places! Maybe even all the way to [[Earth]]!&lt;br /&gt;
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This enthusiasm for her job makes her a tenacious officer, but also difficult to work with. Bumblebee&#039;s rather loose command style doesn&#039;t quite gel with the cadet&#039;s by-the-rules approach, as she uses protocol to sometimes get around Bumblebee&#039;s orders. It also puts her directly at odds with [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], a bot who breaks rules almost habitually and constantly thumbs his nose at authority. She&#039;s not terribly thrilled about working with convicted criminal [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] either, but at least he doesn&#039;t specifically try and pick fights with her like Sideswipe does.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Constance Zimmer]] (English), [[Yui Kondō]] (Japanese)|[[Katia Sorrentino]] (Italian)}}&lt;br /&gt;
A cadet partnered with Bumblebee, Strongarm helped him capture [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]]. Unfortunately for Bumblebee, she then insisted that regulations meant she had to accompany him on a trip to [[Earth]] after [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] appeared to him in a series of visions. There they found that the prison ship &#039;&#039;[[Alchemor]]&#039;&#039; had crashed, scattering [[Decepticon]] prisoners over the nearby area. {{storylink|Pilot (Part 1)}} Adopting a local vehicular form, Strongarm joined the team in recapturing the escaped Decepticon [[Underbite (RID)|Underbite]] before he could reach and devour nearby [[Crown City]]. The operation was a success, though she was unsure about the wisdom of allowing Sideswipe and [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] to remain on the team. {{storylink|Pilot (Part 2)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Strongarm and Sideswipe continued having trouble working together, inadvertently resulting in Strongarm&#039;s comms being damaged. When the pair went sent on a mission to investigate fugitive signals, they split up, and Strongarm was captured by [[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]], who tried to convince her that he intended to dwell peacefully on Earth. She was freed by Sideswipe and Russell, though Steeljaw got away. {{storylink|Trust Exercises}} Strongarm and the team managed to capture [[Bisk (RID)|Bisk]]. They later encountered [[Chop Shop (RID)|Chop Shop]] and were unprepared for the Decepticon&#039;s ability to split into component parts. When Strongarm attempted to tackle one of his components, it resulted in Chop Shop taking Fixit as a new right arm, however the team were eventually successful in rescuing the Mini-Con and capturing the Decepticon. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye (episode)|More than Meets the Eye}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe and Strongarm continued to squabble — when they went to a [[Crown City Museum of Natural History and Sciences|museum]], Strongarm alternated between doing so and towing Grimlock on a trailer. Splitting up, the team was unable to capture [[Terrashock]] until Bumblebee came up with a way to hunt the Decepticon on his own terms. {{storylink|W.W.O.D.?}} Strongarm searched the &#039;&#039;Alchemor&#039;&#039; crash site again but only turned up a [[Decepticon hunter]], which she was unable to get working despite Fixit&#039;s instructions. During the mission to protect the generator at the dam, she was forced to help Grimlock back to the scrapyard, and was unable to help hunt for [[Thunderhoof]]. {{storylink|As the Kospego Commands!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Feeling homesick, Strongarm began breaking out in hives, as well as relying more and more on the rulebook, which irritated Sideswipe as they searched for the Decepticon [[Filch]]. After some encouragement from Bumblebee, Strongarm broke several rules as they captured Filch, though she later wrote the others up anyway. {{storylink|Collect &#039;Em All}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoilers|True Colors|March 21}}&lt;br /&gt;
When Grimlock turned on the other Autobots and stole Underbite&#039;s stasis pod, Strongarm&#039;s first instinct was that Grimlock had been pretending to be good all along. She, Bumblebee and Sideswipe tracked him to a dam, where they discovered that he had been under the control of [[Minitron]]. {{storylink|True Colors}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoilers|Rumble in the Jungle|March 22}}&lt;br /&gt;
After begging, Strongarm got her own solo mission, only to find that Bumblebee was following her. Despite several missteps, she managed to capture the Decepticon [[Springload (RID)|Springload]] with his help. {{storylink|Rumble in the Jungle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robots in Disguise (2015)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2015 RID Cyberverse Strongarm.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Tonight&#039;s the night we got the truck, we&#039;re goin&#039; downtown gonna beat up drunks.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legion, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)| Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; Legion figures, Strongarm transforms into a police SUV. In robot mode, her fists are compatible with 3mm-peg weapons, although she does not come with any herself. Her head is sculpted with her [[mouthplate|battle mask]] deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her drivers-side door in vehicle mode, becoming her left arm in robot mode. Scanning this in the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; mobile game]] temporarily unlocks the Legion-Class Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked them already. This badge is accessible while she is still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|OneStepChanger}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Onestepstrongarm.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Dispatch calls, &amp;quot;Are you doin&#039; something wicked?&amp;quot; No siree jack, we&#039;re just giving out tickets.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (One Step Changer, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the first wave of [[One Step Changer]]s, Strongarm transforms from robot to police SUV in a single step. In robot mode, she has extremely limited posability, with just shoulder-swivels and some extra outward-swing thanks to her transformation. Her fists have [[5mm post]]-compatible holes.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her right shoulder in robot mode. Scanning this in the Robots in Disguise mobile game temporarily unlocksthe One Step Changer Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked them already. As it&#039;s on a folded-up robot bit and she&#039;s packaged in vehicle mode, there&#039;s no way to scan this while she is still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|Warrior}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:warriorstrongarm.jpg|thumb|300px|right|When no one&#039;s watching, she folds her back-kibble down and pretends it&#039;s a cape.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Warrior, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Rifle&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the first wave of Warrior-class figures, Strongarm transforms into a police SUV. This larger, more complex and posable version of the character includes a rifle accessory (with an odd permanent &amp;quot;blast effect&amp;quot; on the barrel-tip), which can be mounted using 5mm ports in both robot and vehicle mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Her scannable Autobot [[insignia]] is on her robot-mode right chestplate. Scanning this in the Robots in Disguise&#039; mobile game temporarily unlocks the Warrior-Class Strongarm figure as a playable character if the player has not permanently unlocked them already. As she&#039;s packaged in robot mode, this badge is easily scannable while still in-package.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Tiny Titans===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|TinyTitan}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strongarm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Tiny Titans, 2015)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;3/12&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the inital assortment of [[Tiny Titans]], this version of Strongarm is a very small, soft-plastic figure of her in robot mode, sporting a battle-ready boxing stance.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sold in a [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] baggie (though there is a tiny window on the back to peek in and see what&#039;s inside), she comes with a collectible card with a scan-badge for the mobile game, which unlocks a random amount of Energon &amp;quot;currency&amp;quot; and a randomized bonus power-up item. &lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/robots-in-disguise-2015/strongarm/3478/1/ Image gallery of &#039;&#039;Tiny Titans&#039;&#039; Strongarm at Seibertron.com]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Female Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) Autobots]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Raininshadows</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Sari,_No_One%27s_Home&amp;diff=952456</id>
		<title>Sari, No One&#039;s Home</title>
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|caption= THAT&#039;S MY PURSE! I DON&#039;T KNOW YOU! &lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Sari, No One&#039;s Home&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[June 5]], [[2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Todd Casey]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[Irineo Maramba]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Yutaka Kagawa]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Mook]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Animated cartoon continuity]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Left alone in the Autobots&#039; home base, Sari must defend it against an intrusion by the Constructicons.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TFA Sari No One Home Bulkhead freakout.JPG|thumb|left|[[Ironhide (G1)|&amp;quot;LEAKIN&#039; LUBRICANT!&amp;quot;]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
At the Autobot base, [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] is going through his obstacle course and passes with ease. [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari]] comes in and decides that anything a living hunk of metal can do, she can do better. Prowl allows her to proceed, but only at one quarter speed—which proves to be about a quarter speed too high for her as, a swinging crane arm clocks her in the back of the head, knocking her flat on her face. Sari starts complaining, and an amused Prowl consoles her, when [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] barges in, complaining about the sound of constant dripping. Tracking it down, he finds the drip in an [[oil]] leak in [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s arm. [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] offers a tune up, but Bumblebee is adamant about being in perfect working order. His argument is weakend by the fact that when he rotates his arm around, drops of oil fly everywhere. Before a proper argument breaks out, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] appears and turns on the news, which shows [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]] and [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] robbing oil from an auto supply shop. The Autobots debate whether or not the two bots will remember them and note they have to get to them before [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Animated Sarinoonehome chocolate.JPG|thumb|Some stay dry and others feel the pain!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots transform and roll out, but Optimus stops Sari from following, pointing out that a) the last time she was near those two, they nearly took her head off, and b) a kid isn&#039;t going to be a match for a two-story robot. Prime catches up with the rest, and they head towards the pair&#039;s last known location, not noticing that Bumblebee&#039;s leak is leaving a trail straight to the factory. Sari, meanwhile, is moping over being left home...before realising she&#039;s been left home &#039;&#039;alone&#039;&#039;! She then proceeds to stuff her face with chocolate, strap herself to a crane and have her own homemade funfair ride, and attempt Prowl&#039;s course at full pelt (which goes about as well as the first time).&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots are en route with Bumblebee&#039;s leak slowly driving Bulkhead insane. After reaching his limit, he slaps an &amp;quot;I love Autobots&amp;quot; sticker on the hole, and it seems to solve the problem. Unfortunately, they are a little late, as Scrapper and Mixmaster have spotted the trail. Lamenting their inability to remember where they got the real good stuff, the Constructicons decide to follow the yellow twit&#039;s trail and see if it leads &#039;em to anything worth drinking.&lt;br /&gt;
Unknown to all and sundry, Megatron has picked up the [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructicons&#039;]] location. He hands [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] a barrel of oil and orders him to find the pair and bring them back, while at the same time avoiding confrontation with the Autobots. Blitzwing is happy to oblige, transforming to jet mode and heading for the city.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TFA Sari No One Home Sari teddy bear.JPG|thumb|left|upright=1.1|We will fight them in the kitchens! We will fight them in the recrooms! We will fight them in the living rooms!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Constructicons have arrived at the factory, and Mixmaster promptly melts the door. Sari, hanging out in Prowl&#039;s room with her headphones on, doesn&#039;t hear the alarm go off. Scrapper has a sense of &#039;&#039;deja vu&#039;&#039; about the plant, convinced that they&#039;ve been here and that something bad went down, but Mixmaster is unconcerned. Skating through the hallways, Sari promptly runs into the Constructicons. Screaming at the top of her lungs disorients the two long enough for her to escape. Scrapper is convinced that Sari had something to do with their memory loss, while Mixmaster, still wanting some oil, tells him that they&#039;re staying.&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Autobots have found nothing on their search. Bumblebee briefly mistakes a regular construction vehicle for Mixmaster, while Bulkhead sees what he thinks is Blitzwing, but isn&#039;t sure. Bumblebee decides to call in Sari, but she doesn&#039;t answer (unaware that Scrapper just accidentally crushed Sari&#039;s phone). When he sees the Autobots, Icy Blitzwing remembers that he is not to engage them, but Hothead and Random Blitzwing decide to crush them anyway. The Autobots try to draw him away from civilians, but they end up at a backed-up on ramp. With nowhere to move, Prime orders Ratchet and Bumblebee to clear the humans out while the he and the others take on Blitzwing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:&#039;sHome Constructicons Slip.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&amp;quot;Don&#039;tcha know a kid always wins against two idiots?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
At the plant, Sari holds a council of war (with her teddy bear) and decides to fight them off herself. Arming herself with hockey pads, she puts on a helmet and picks up a hockey stick. As the intruders explore the rec room, Sari attacks, and but her hockey stick shatters. Hiding in Prowl&#039;s room until the Constructicons move on, she gets outside through a drainage pipe, reenters through the melted front gate, and contacts the Autobots in the communication center. Unfortunately, they are taking a pounding from Blitzwing, so Bumblebee tells her to hide until they can get there. Unwilling to wait, Sari decides to set a trap...with some nice, delicious cans of oil. Predictably, the two neutrals walk in and see Sari with three barrels ready. Mixmaster demands the oil, despite Scrapper&#039;s fear that&#039;s it a trap. He&#039;s right, for Sari uses the machines to dump it on the ground, causing Mix and Scrap to fall down and go boom and allowing her time to escape.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:&#039;sHome Autobots Huddle.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|[[Triple Takeover|We need zone defense!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Elsewhere, Blitzwing is dominating the Autobots, so Prime decides to end this with an [[Omega Formation]]. Bumblebee goes in first, but his stingers do little damage. Then Bulkhead throws Prowl, allowing him to execute a high-speed kick, but Ratchet&#039;s attempt to finish off Blitzwing gets him taken hostage. At this point, however, Megatron orders Blitzwing to disengage, and he takes to the air.&lt;br /&gt;
At the plant, Mix and Scrap decide to take down Sari, but Sari sets up the factory machines to thrash them, put them on the assembly line, get riveted, magnetized, and dumped on the ground. Mix finally calls it quits, and the two roll out. When the Autobots return, they fear the worst upon seeing the damage, but Sari shows up and tells them how she drove them off. Prime apologizes for doubting her and offers praise for her bravery and ability to drive off Mixmaster and Scrapper—until he sees the candy wrappers...&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:&#039;sHome The End.jpg|thumb|200px-&#039;sHome_The_End.jpg|Th-th-th-th-th-that&#039;s all folks!]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the road, Mixmaster and Scrapper are still fleeing Sari, when Blitzwing spots them. He offers them some oil, which Mixmaster remembers as the great stuff they previously had. He offers them more if they follow him, and the trio walk into the sunset. After all, Megatron has plans for them.&lt;br /&gt;
[[A Bridge Too Close, Part I|&#039;&#039;Endgame&#039;&#039; plans...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Isaac Sumdac]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sparkplug (Animated human)|Sparkplug]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&#039;S&#039;matter witchoo?! You&#039;re an excavator, not a golf cart! Grow a backhoe and let&#039;s get some oil!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039; tells Scrapper to man up.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Hothead Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: AUTOBOTS! I WILL CRUSH THEM INTO IRON FILINGS!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Icy Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: But my orders are to find the Constructicons.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Random Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: Ooh, but I LIKE iron filings! Especially sprinkled on top of servo salad!&lt;br /&gt;
:—Ladies and gentlemen, Random Blitzwing just got a little scarier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now I&#039;ll have to call Prime and the others from the Communication center, out there. By the time they get here, those two oil guzzlers&#039;ll wreck the whole place. &#039;&#039;[stares at her teddy bear]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;No. This is my house, and I&#039;m going to defend it! I&#039;ll show them I&#039;m just as tough as they are!&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[quieter]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Even though I&#039;m talking to a teddy bear.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039; becomes the next [[wikipedia:Macaulay Culkin|Macaulay Culkin]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You broke my cell phone, but you are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; gonna break my TV!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari Sumdac&#039;&#039;&#039; is filled with righteous fury.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;YI-AHHHHHH!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[hits Mix with a hockey stick, which breaks]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Okay...that&#039;s as far as my plan got.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039; vs. the Constructicons.&lt;br /&gt;
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(&#039;&#039;after Sari&#039;s &#039;hockey attack&#039; fails&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: What the front-end loader was that?&lt;br /&gt;
:—You all wish he&#039;d said &amp;quot;[[Dirt Boss (Animated)|forklift]]&amp;quot;, don&#039;t you?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Hothead Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: COME BACK HERE, SO I CAN PULL YOUR PISTONS OUT THROUGH YOUR TAILPIPES!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Random Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: Oh, and void your warranty with excess wear and tear. AAAHAHAHA!&lt;br /&gt;
:—Ah, Blitzwing, how we&#039;ve missed you.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;I, uh, apologize for underestimating you, Sari. You performed bravely today.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Glad you&#039;re okay, squirt.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[they walk inside and see candy all over the floor]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;SAAARRRIII!!!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—Optimus officially becomes a father.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You were right, Scrap. That little beast is a terror! I&#039;ll never doubt you again!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I think we lost her.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Nah, I doubt it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039; can&#039;t keep his word to &#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039; for three seconds, can he?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*A run of Season 2 episodes were first shown in Dubai, but this episode was not among them; instead, it was first seen in the UK.&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode was also aired at TFcon 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation or technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*When Megatron gives Blitzwing his mission objectives, while the camera is focused on his face, Blitzwing is miscoloured, with the beige torso sections opposite his cockpit now coloured purple.&lt;br /&gt;
*During several shots, the brow areas of the Constructicons are miscoloured, swapping colours on occasions.&lt;br /&gt;
*Once again, Optimus has a firetruck for his back half when he returns to base (though it was missing at his departure), but it&#039;s gone as soon as he transforms.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Blitzwing debates with himself on whether or not to attack the Autobots, his cannons are not on his person.&lt;br /&gt;
*Blitzy has his cannons back, but as he gets ready to fire on Bulkhead in tank-mode, the insides of the barrels are transulent, enough to see him and the road straight through them.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*For about half of the episode, we see that Bumblebee is leaking oil out of his left arm.  Bulkhead thinks it&#039;s annoying and makes a big deal out of it.  Yet even after the battle is over, nobody even bothers to fix the (now-patched) leak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Although sirens go off when the Constructicons break into the base, the Autobots don&#039;t seem to have a way to detect that their base has been broken into unless they&#039;re actually present at the base                  .&lt;br /&gt;
*When Blitzwing leaves the Decepticon base, Megatron gives him one barrel of oil, but when he meets up with the Constructicons, he has two.&lt;br /&gt;
*Bumblebee&#039;s stingers [[To sell toys#Power Levels|have been rather inconsistently powered]].  In previous episodes, they&#039;ve been able to shove [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] back and take down a building, but do nothing to a regular construction vehicle, or Blitzwing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*The same worker from &amp;quot;[[Nature Calls]]&amp;quot; reappears here, and he&#039;s even got a name in the credits: Sparkplug. And the fandom rejoiced.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Sari is listening to music in Prowl&#039;s room, she is humming the [[Theme song|&amp;quot;More than Meets the Eye&amp;quot; theme]] (despite the music being a completely different tune).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maramba Brothers Auto Supply]] is named after &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; director [[Irineo Maramba]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*There&#039;s a general similarity between this episode and the movie &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Home Alone|Home Alone]]&#039;&#039;. Sari quotes [[wikipedia:Macaulay Culkin|Macaulay Culkin]]&#039;s character Kevin (see above), Scrapper acts as dumb as [[wikipedia:Daniel Stern (actor)|Daniel Stern]]&#039;s character Marv, and Mixmaster has always sounded like [[wikipedia:Joe Pesci|Joe Pesci]]...&lt;br /&gt;
*Bulkhead launching Prowl at Blitzwing is remarkably similar to the &amp;quot;Fastball Special&amp;quot; maneuver from X-Men comics, in which Colossus uses his super-strength to launch [[Wolverine (superhero)|Wolverine]] at villains. Bulkhead also did this with Bumblebee in &amp;quot;[[Along Came a Spider]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Sari prepares for battle with the Constructicons, her hockey stick makes a [[lightsaber]] sound effect when she swings it.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*Blitzwing&#039;s jet mode seems to have VTOL capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Blitzwing just stands around while the Autobots attempt to plot his downfall using a football huddle. Is he arrogant or just plain crazy? Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
*According to the [[Cartoon Network]] panel at [[BotCon 2008]], Mixmaster&#039;s line &amp;quot;What the front-end-loader was &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;?&amp;quot; was originally scripted &amp;quot;What the forklift was &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;?&amp;quot;. However, BS&amp;amp;P caught the very intentional verbal similarity to a dirty dirty word, so the line was changed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Bumblebee leaks oil in a manner that is analogous to either blood or bodily waste. The Constructicons find said oil delicious.&lt;br /&gt;
*When in his alt-mode, Bumblebee&#039;s leak seems to come from his door—somewhere that oil is not usually found in a real car. Maybe this oil is used for the transformation process?&lt;br /&gt;
*While the Hothead and Icy personalities typically blast only fire or ice respectively, Random Blitzwing is shown using both at once.&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode was adapted in comic book format using screen captures as half of &amp;quot;[[Transformers Animated Volume 12]]&amp;quot;, with &amp;quot;[[Black Friday (episode)|Black Friday]]&amp;quot; making up the other half.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;French&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Les constructeurs démolisseurs&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;The Demolishing Constructicons&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ???&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;German&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari - Allein zu Haus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Sari - Alone at Home&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[July 29|29 July]] [[2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari no Rusuban&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (サリの留守番, &amp;quot;House-sitter Sari&amp;quot;) &lt;br /&gt;
::*For whatever reasons, this episode never aired in Japan, but is included in the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video#Japan|Transformers Animated Vol. 7 DVD]] as episode 27.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Polish&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Nikogo nie ma w domu&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;No One&#039;s Home&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ???&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Season Two ([[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video|Paramount]]) — English and Spanish audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Six: Black Friday (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Six: Black Friday (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Sechs: Schwarzer Freitag (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2011 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Vol. 7 (Paramount) — Japanese audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:5mmpostmainpic 001.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|Weapons for everybody!]]&lt;br /&gt;
One of the simplest innovations in [[toy|Transformers toys]], using universally sized posts for accessories, weapons and figures is something that has characterised several Transformers lines throughout the years. The most common universal post and port size is the &#039;&#039;&#039;5-millimetre (5mm) post&#039;&#039;&#039;. This size was used throughout [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]], &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]&#039;&#039;, and almost universally throughout &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Using a single, universal size of weapon post allows Transformers toys to swap weapons between one another. During most Transformers toy lines, this interchangeability was seldom advertised as a feature of the toys, but during &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;, that changed. The introduction of the [[Mini-Con]]s gave 5mm posts an entirely new purpose: A hollow 5mm post could now become a mounting point for a Mini-Con. The interchangeability suddenly became an advertised feature of the toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 5mm post has become pretty ubiquitous in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy design, with only a few lines (mainly the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 live-action movie]] and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]]&#039;&#039;) favoring less-interchangeable systems.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Functionality==&lt;br /&gt;
===Backwards compatibility===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Primesharingguns.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|&amp;quot;Dude, you&#039;re right. Guns with their posts in the right place &#039;&#039;&#039;rock!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Probably the biggest, most meaningful aspect of using a universal fist size is compatibility between toys. You can share your accessories or Mini-Cons or even some integral parts of toys around to other toys from the same line. Even better for long-term fans of the franchise is that the continuous use of 5mm posts from Generation 1 onwards into modern lines means that toys are actually backwards-compatible with the accessories from older toys. As well as delightful opportunities for mixing and matching, this means that characters who get new toys can use accessories from their old toys. Even if you don&#039;t like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Classics|&amp;quot;Classics&amp;quot; Optimus Prime&#039;s]] rifle, you can always just give him [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#PMOP|Powermaster Optimus Prime&#039;s]] rifle, or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Return of Convoy|Star Convoy&#039;s]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This compatibility works both ways, allowing you to use &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; and even Power Core Combiners weapons with old [[Micromaster]] Bases or [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s toys. &lt;br /&gt;
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===A matter of tolerance===&lt;br /&gt;
Despite the fact that 5mm posts are supposed to be universally the same size, this isn&#039;t always the case. Sometimes, due to play wear or simply to slight (very slight) differences in tooling, some posts are tighter or looser than others. This can mean that sometimes a toy will hold a gun loosely, or that a weapon will be too tight to fit into another toy&#039;s hand. &lt;br /&gt;
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Generally, this is only a problem on toys or toolings that have seen a lot of use. A Generation 1 toy like [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Soundwave]] that was produced for several years and re-released many times might actually show a difference in tolerance between different samples of the toy. Similarly, toolings which see a lot of use, such as [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics|&amp;quot;Classics&amp;quot; Starscream]], can begin to show mould wear. There are many reports of later &#039;&#039;[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]&#039;&#039; versions of the mould not being able to hold their weapons correctly because tolerances are poor. There are several recommended actions for fixing loose sockets, such as floor polish.&lt;br /&gt;
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If a toy sees a lot of play, especially if weapons are being removed and replaced repeatedly, a hole (or sometimes a post) can wear down, making the weapons looser. It&#039;s possible to increase this problem while swapping weapons between different toys. If a gun post from a [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Pretender|Pretender Bumblebee]] is slightly smaller than the post from [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Pretender|Pretender Grimlock]], then Grimlock&#039;s gun might actually &#039;&#039;stretch&#039;&#039; Bumblebee&#039;s fists. This could result in Bumblebee no longer being able to hold his own gun firmly. It&#039;s advisable when swapping guns between different toys to be aware of the slight differences in tolerances between toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Multiple posts and double posting===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Swindlerifle doublepostdemo.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|&amp;quot;Pssst—hey, bud!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;WHO, ME?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Shhhhhh!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Who, me?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Riiiiiiiiight.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Some Transformers toys come with multiple figures, such as a [[Pretender]] shell and its inner robot. Other toys are small and merge with bigger toys to become still larger. Other toys come with a trailer or base which has larger weapons than the core robot. Because of the size difference between the two components, two different weapon post sizes are required.&lt;br /&gt;
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The early Pretenders usually handle this by simply giving the gun two different posts: a larger 5mm post for the outer shell, and a smaller post for the inner robot. The result is that the two figures hold the same gun in different ways. For the purposes of this article, we&#039;ll refer to these as &amp;quot;multiple-post weapons&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another solution, one often used with combiners, is simply to have the two posts one on top of the other—the smaller post on the bottom and the larger post on the top, both forming the same handle of the gun. [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]]&#039;s accessories are one of the earliest examples (albeit unintentional), with rings or ridges widening the pegs to 5mm. The problem with this solution is that, when one gives weapons to unrelated toys, Transformers with fist holes that don&#039;t go all the way through the hands (such as [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Armada|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Hot Shot]]) often can&#039;t hold these guns. We&#039;ll call that &amp;quot;double-posting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;double-posted weapons&amp;quot; for the purposes of this article.&lt;br /&gt;
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===5mm Screw Holes===&lt;br /&gt;
Many Transformers over the years have indented holes to allow screws to hold two pieces  of the toy together. These screw holes come in all shapes and sizes but often they are also 5mm ports. Sometimes this is intentional, and the screw hole is deliberately moulded to 5mm to give the toy more functionality. Most of the time though, they aren&#039;t intentionally 5mm ports and are either very tight or slightly loose.&lt;br /&gt;
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5mm screw holes can add functionality to many toys which otherwise aren&#039;t 5mm compatible, especially if a fan is creative. However, we have only included 5mm screw holes in the compatibility list below if they are particularly notable. So if you suspect a toy&#039;s screw holes are 5mm and he&#039;s not on the list, at least give it a try.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Powerlinx Ports===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Armadagalvatron 5mmoverload.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|I want it all, and I want it now!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; toy line]], a new spin on the 5mm post and port was developed: the [[Mini-Con]] [[Powerlinx]]. Using hollow 5mm posts with a &amp;quot;trigger&amp;quot; contained inside, Mini-Cons could activate the [[gimmick]]s of other toys or simply mount on other toys. Because the Mini-Cons use a special kind of port, they cannot be mounted on 5mm posts that aren&#039;t hollow. In theory, this means only toys with specific Powerlinx ports can hold Mini-Cons. In &#039;&#039;practice&#039;&#039;, this isn&#039;t the case at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout the history of the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; franchise, for one reason or another, toys have come with 5mm posts which are hollow, creating a kind of unintentional back-compatibility with many Mini-Cons. We&#039;ll list this back-compatibility in individual toy entries further down the page.&lt;br /&gt;
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The other significant aspect of the Powerlinx ports is that they act like regular 5mm posts too. This means that you can use them to mount any weapons or accessories that are designed to mount on 5mm posts. Does mounting a bunch of miniature cars on [[Starscream (Armada)#toys|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Starscream&#039;s]] arms seem silly to you? Maybe it&#039;s time to use the guns from the [[Micromaster]] [[Anti-Aircraft Base]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
In the first few years of the toy line, partly because of the mix-and-match nature of the line itself, &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; didn&#039;t have very standardised fist sizes. The &#039;&#039;[[Diaclone]]&#039;&#039;-descended toys usually had no single standard, with only the toys with the biggest weapons or fists having 5mm posts. The &#039;&#039;[[Micro Change]]&#039;&#039;-descended toys were much more consistent about post size, using 5mm posts on almost all of the toys with weapons or accessories, because of the size being one of the standard connectors for Microman toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Generation 1 evolved 5mm posts and ports became nearly universal. Only the switch to smaller toys with [[Action Master]]s changed this — a new, smaller, universal post size was used for that line. These smaller sized posts carried over into the UK Transformers, while in [[Japan]] the rise of Micromasters led to 5mm staying predominant throughout the line.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1984===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] — The only Autobot this year to use 5mm posts, Prime&#039;s main rifle sadly has a terrible [[design flaw]] (that has &#039;&#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039;&#039; been corrected, despite all the reissues) which makes it much less interchangeable with other toys. The gun&#039;s handle is moulded in the wrong place, and there&#039;s a false handle where the real one should be. Prime has actually been retooled to allow him to hold the rifle better — by increasing the size of the rims on his fists. Too bad they didn&#039;t just put the rifle&#039;s handle post in the right place. In addition to the rifle, [[Roller (G1)|Roller]]&#039;s fuel pump is also a 5mm post. It&#039;s possible to use this to either give the pump to other toys or to pump up Roller with some heavy weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
All the 1984 Decepticons use 5mm posts in some capacity.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ravage5mmcompatibility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Shattered Glass Ravage prefers flowers.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] — Due to the post holes in their bodies, they can be pegged onto Mini-Con ports, or similar 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys|Skywarp]] — Their wings &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; their weapons have 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]] — Most notably his large chrome rifle has a 5mm post on it, allowing it to be given to other toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1985===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]] — Grimlock&#039;s fist holes are smaller than 5mm (being the size of Rhisling&#039;s lower hilt), but ridges on the upper sections of his launcher and [[sword]]&#039;s pegs and a ring on the upper part of the gun&#039;s peg make them 5mm.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] — Tracks&#039; missile mount is on a 5mm peg. This means Tracks can have any 5mm peg weapons mounted over his head or on his car or flight modes. Possibly the only &#039;&#039;Diaclone&#039;&#039;-based [[Autobot Cars|Autobot Car]] with a 5mm weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and [[Twin Twist (G1)|Twin Twist]] — These toys do NOT have 5mm post holes, but their rifles have a 5mm base to the gun peg, effectively creating a very shallow double-peg that allows their guns limited inter-changeability with toys with 5mm fists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] — Devastator&#039;s is a classic double-posted rifle. Devastator&#039;s fists are 5mm holes, but he shares his rifle with [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] and his tiny, tiny fists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] have the same 5mm compatibility as Starscream and company from the previous year.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] — The strange construction of Blitzwing&#039;s weapons and fists makes interchangeability ... awkward, as his fist holes are on the sides instead of the top; the weapons are sculpted to still look like he&#039;s holding them normally.  Of course, if you&#039;re a fan of punch daggers, or Blitzwing holding someone else&#039;s guns &#039;gangsta-style&#039;, then more power to you.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1986===&lt;br /&gt;
1986 saw the introduction of the Transformers [[Special Teams]], or [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiners. All of these combiners used 5mm posts as standard to peg in their fists and feet in combined mode, meaning you could swap these parts between any of the combiners. The fists of the combined forms almost universally used 5mm holes (all except [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]]) and almost all the leaders of the teams (except [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]) used 5mm posts for their fists. &lt;br /&gt;
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The smaller members of the Special Teams almost all had small pistols or rifles that used variably compatible smaller posts, and larger alt mode weapons that used 5mm posts — often taking advantage of post holes used for the combined form&#039;s fists or feet. The earlier toys often used weapons with 5mm ports which would peg onto the robot — allowing those weapons to be pegged onto Mini-Con ports and other similar 5mm posts. The later toys tended to use 5mm posts which peg into ports on the toy.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Outback5mmcompatibility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Where the bloody hell am I? Right here, mate. Right here!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Outback (G1)|Outback]] — The only [[Mini Vehicle]] with a weapon at all, Outback sports a 5mm post that lets him use all kinds of crazy weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] and [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]] — But &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] or [[Eject (G1)|Eject]], strangely. Ramhorn&#039;s peg holes are very loose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] — Barely. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s are the only Special Team whose leader doesn&#039;t use 5mm posts, and who have no members with larger vehicle weapons which use 5mm posts. Superion doesn&#039;t have 5mm fists either. Only the posts and ports for the combined form&#039;s hands and feet are 5mm posts. Superion even has what looks like a hollow 5mm peg on the underside of his combined form&#039;s chest plate — however this peg is just slightly too big to be of use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Protectobot (G1)|The Protectobots]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys|Ultra Magnus]] — Most of Magnus&#039; accessories use 5mm posts. Interestingly enough his rifle has two ways of being held — the large robot uses a larger peg than the small inner robot&#039;s 5mm post. So you can only let other toys hold the gun in the same way as Magnus&#039; inner robot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] — Uses 5mm posts for his weapons, and his fists. He can happily wear any Scramble City fists instead of his own. [[Six-Gun (G1)|Six-Gun]] and [[Scamper (G1)|Scamper]] do not use 5mm pegs for their weapons, however [[Slammer]] does. His turret is on a hollow 5mm post so it can be mounted on (or rather under, most of the time) Mini-Cons!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stunticon (G1)|The Stunticons]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Combaticon (G1)|The Combaticons]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Predacon (G1)|The Predacons]] — Unlike the Scramble City toys, all the Predacons use 5mm posts as standard, with no accessories at all with smaller pegs, making all their weapons usable by [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] — Only his head-mounted gun, his rifle uses a smaller peg.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]] — However remember, [[Nightmare Planet|Galvatron&#039;s weapons pegs can be any size he wants!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] — [[Full-Tilt]] does &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; use 5mm posts. On the other hand [[Brunt (G1)|Brunt&#039;s]] tank turret &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; use them. It&#039;s completely possible to mount the turret as an arm cannon for an &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; toy, or anyone else with 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1987===&lt;br /&gt;
By 1987 5mm posts had become almost universal. Only some smaller toys, and those toys without weapon accessories didn&#039;t have them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Technobot (G1)|The Technobots]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described in the 1986 section above.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fastlane]] &amp;amp; [[Cloudraker (G1)|Cloudraker]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Punch (G1)|Punch-Counterpunch]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Monsterbot]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Targetmaster]]s — [[Kup (G1)#Targetmaster|Kup]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Targetmaster|Hot Rod]] and [[Blurr (G1)#Targetmaster|Blurr]] were [[retool]]ed to be 5mm peg compatible so that they could use [[Targetmaster]]s this year. The other Targetmaster moulds were all made with 5mm pegs in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Toys|Fortress Maximus]] was the only Headmaster not to use 5mm pegs exclusively. Nearly all his accessories and the weapons for his smaller components were 5mm pegs. However his larger rifles were so huge they used much, much larger peg sizes which are not compatible with any other Transformers mould.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Terrorcon (G1)|The Terrorcons]] — [[Blot (G1)#Toys|Blot]] and [[Cutthroat (G1)#Toys|Cutthroat]] are the only small Special Teams members outside the Aerialbots not to have alt mode weapons with 5mm posts. Blot has a backpack, and Cutthroat has a transforming tail weapon, instead.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] &amp;amp; [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pounce]] &amp;amp; [[Wingspan]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Targetmaster]]s — [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Targetmaster|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)#Targetmaster|Scourge]] were retooled to be able to use the 5mm pegs associated with Targetmasters and released again as part of this range.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — Scorponok is the only Decepticon Headmaster not to use 5mm pegs universally. Most of his accessories use them, except for his four large double-barrelled cannons and his shield, which has a slightly wider peg hole. The shield does have a hollow 5mm peg on it, though, allowing you to mount a Mini-Con on the shield. Sweet! Oh yeah, that does mean, by the way, that his tremendously enormous rifle does use both 5mm pegs and 5mm peg holes. Fasttrack doesn&#039;t use 5mm pegs for his hands, but his arms are mounted on 5mm pegs, so you can give him all sorts of crazy gun arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1988===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Pretender5mmcompatibility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|5mm pegs on Pretenders: A demonstration.]]&lt;br /&gt;
1988 introduced a new line dependent on the 5mm peg, the Pretenders. As mentioned above, in the section on multiple posts and double posts, the Pretender shells all had 5mm pegs, while their robots had smaller (less universally sized) pegs. Pretenders usually had at least one weapon (sometimes more) that was meant for both the shell and the inner robot. For the 1988 Pretenders, these weapons had multiple pegs on them, allowing different components to hold them in different ways.  These weapons were also usually a part of the Pretender&#039;s vehicle mode, and mounted on them in that mode using 5mm pegs.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later Pretenders used double-posting instead of multiple-posting, so that the inner robots often lacked the 5mm compatibility in their vehicle modes that earlier Pretenders enjoyed. But for 1988 it was 5mm compatible city!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grand Slam (G1)|Grand Slam]] &amp;amp; [[Raindance]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Targetmaster]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — Unlike in 1987, the 1988 Autobot Headmasters had two sets of weapons with different post sizes. There was a single main rifle for the main robot with a 5mm post, and two smaller pistols that were both vehicle mode weapons and antennae for the robots&#039; head.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Powermaster]]s. — [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#PMOP|Powermaster Prime]] in particular is notable because his weapons are massive, badass and freakin&#039; awesome. You know they are. Admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Quickswitch (G1)|Quickswitch]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Pretender]]s — Including the regular Pretenders, [[Pretender Beast]]s and [[Gunrunner (G1)|Gunrunner]], the [[Pretender Vehicle]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Skalor5mmcompatibility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|That gun mode stinks!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Seacon (G1)|The Seacons]] — Because of his Targetmaster gimmick, [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] is one of only two (the other being Superion, the piker) Generation 1 combiner robot without 5mm post hole fists. Instead he has special ports for the square pegs which are used as part of the Special Teams style combination. Each of the five smaller Seacons also come with a special Targetmaster stand which allows them to use their gun forms independent of Piranacon. The stand is divided into three parts, a connector, a post and a base. The post is moulded to look like a large rifle and has multiple pegs on it (of different sizes) letting it be held as a weapon both by the small Seacons and by anyone with a 5mm fist. The connector is even cooler, since it has a 5mm post hole and can be used to mount the Seacons on Mini-Con ports or other similar gun posts when in gun mode. It can also be used to make any Scramble City style combiner limb 5mm post compatible, so any of them can become a giant Mini-Con. How awesome is that?&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Squawktalk (G1)|Squawktalk]] &amp;amp; [[Beastbox (G1)|Beastbox]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Targetmaster]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — The small Decepticon Headmasters did not have two sets of weapons like their Autobot counterparts and relied entirely on 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Powermaster]]s — Doubledealer came with a special Powermaster Engine cover with a 5mm post on it. The post is hollow, allowing you to mount a Mini-Con on it.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Pretender]]s — Including the regular Pretenders, [[Pretender Beast]]s and [[Roadgrabber]], the [[Pretender Vehicle]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===1989===&lt;br /&gt;
This year introduced the [[Micromaster]]s, as well as introducing a truck load more Pretenders. The Micromasters emphasised inter-compatibility in a way Transformers hadn&#039;t really done before. All the bases were able to connect through special ramps, and all the weapons for the bases used 5mm posts. The Micromasters themselves all had small post holes in their feet that corresponded to small posts all over the bases — letting you stand them freely. The Micromasters&#039; association with 5mm pegs would continue through into the Japanese toy lines, and would be reflected in the Mini-Cons who would come down the pipeline many years later.&lt;br /&gt;
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As we mentioned above the Pretenders this year were a little less 5mm compatible. While the first year Pretenders generally had 5mm ports on their vehicle modes as well as their Pretender shells, those 5mm posts disappeared on most of the inner robots for this year. Instead of using multiple posts on the same weapon more toys this year used a double-post.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
Literally all the Autobot Pretenders from this year used 5mm posts. All of the Micromaster bases and transports except for Overload and [[Hot House]] used 5mm posts for their weapon accessories. Hot House and Overload don&#039;t really have any accessories, so that&#039;s understandable.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pincher]], [[Doubleheader]] and [[Longtooth]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Classic Pretender]]s — [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]] and [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Jazz]]. These toys were re-released without their shells as [[Legends (G1)|Legends]]. They only came with their smaller weapons, which are double-posted. While the inner robots can&#039;t hold 5mm weapons their weapons can be used with other toys. Bumblebee and Jazz&#039;s guns were switched for the Legends release, so if you&#039;re pedantic about continuity feel free to give Jazz&#039;s gun to Classics Bumblebee without feeling guilty.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]] and [[Vroom (G1)|Vroom]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Erector (G1)|Erector]] and his [[Crane]] — Erector&#039;s weapons are all 5mm posts. While Erector&#039;s trailer hitch is not a 5mm post it is hollow and works as a 5mm port, allowing Erector to connect to other TFs and bases like a Mini-Con.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironworks]]&#039;s [[Construction station]] — In station mode, Ironworks&#039;s base has two hollow 5mm posts on its scaffolding section. These are completely compatible with Mini-Cons. In windmill... errr... radar tower mode these two pegs are used to mount the scaffolding to the tower, so aren&#039;t accessible.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Groundshaker]]&#039;s  [[ATV]] and [[Countdown (G1)|Countdown]]&#039;s [[Rocket Base|Rocket base]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
All the Decepticon Micromaster bases and transports were 5mm compatible this year in some capacity. The Pretenders also, except for the Monster Pretenders.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] — As with nearly all combiners, Monstructor uses 5mm fist holes. However none of the individual Monster Pretenders do. Their shell covers sometimes have relatively inaccessible 5mm posts or ports for Monstructor&#039;s accessories, but that is more-or-less the extent of their compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]], [[Stranglehold]] and [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Classic Pretender]]s [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]] — Also available as a Legends figure without any of the 5mm compatibility conferred by his shell.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Roadblock (G1)|Roadblock]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Flattop (Decepticon)|Flattop]]&#039;s [[Aircraft carrier]] and [[Roughstuff]] and his [[Military transport]] — Roughstuff&#039;s are the only large Micromaster weapons without 5mm posts, making him far less compatible with other toys than he should be. However his trailer hitch is a 5mm post and port. That might be of... some use.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greasepit (G1)|Greasepit]]&#039;s [[Gas station]] and [[Airwave (G1)|Airwave]]&#039;s [[Airport]] — Greasepit has a host of little 5mm post accessories that aren&#039;t weapons like a set of petrol pumps and a street sign. Airwave&#039;s compatibility is limited to having several 5mm ports on the top of his base&#039;s station mode.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skyhopper]]&#039;s [[Helicopter]] and [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]]&#039;s [[Interstellar shuttle]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===1990===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Action Master]]s dropped the 5mm posts in favour of a smaller standard-sized peg for hand-held weapons, obviously due to the smaller size of the figures&#039; fists. However, the backpack accessories for the individually carded figures use 5mm pegs to attach to the screw-holes in the figures&#039; backs, making them compatible with weapons for larger toys. Some of the bases use 5mm posts for their weapon systems as well. But for the most part, this was the end of 5mm pegs being universal in Transformers for a very long time; it wouldn&#039;t happen again until the [[Unicron Trilogy]], almost a decade later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Lionizer5mmdemo.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Another example of why beards freakin&#039; rock.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lionizer]] — Because of his beard, he actually has a double-post, so he has a 5mm post, though it&#039;s very tight.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Action Master|Prowl]]&#039;s [[Turbo Cycle (G1)|Turbo Cycle]]. — His engine intakes have a 5mm port, so they can be mounted on Mini-Con pegs if you&#039;d like, and his wheel section has a 5mm post. The rest of his accessories use the more standard smaller pegs used by Action Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]]. — While both he and his helicopter aren&#039;t really 5mm compatible, he &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; have hand-held missile launchers with 5mm post &#039;&#039;holes&#039;&#039; on them. They can be mounted on Mini-Con ports, or you can mount 5mm guns on top of them while Over-Run is holding them — but good luck keeping his arms up. There&#039;s a couple of posts on the back of his helicopter as well.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#AM|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] [[Armored Convoy]] — Has a bunch of black guns and orange guns with 5mm posts. Yes, you can give all these weapons to Classics Primes. The black guns have hollow posts and so can be mounted on Mini-Cons. The entire Armored Convoy, both cab and trailer, is littered with 5mm ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Missile Launcher]] (with [[Retro]] &amp;amp; [[Surge (G1)|Surge]]) and [[Tanker Truck]] (with [[Pipeline]] &amp;amp; [[Gusher]]) — Both bases have a new mould Micromaster ramp with a double-peg on it. Unfortunately it&#039;s very hard to access, and not very effective as a shield for other toys The combiner bases also extensively use 5mm ports and pegs for all their weapons, and even their main combining pegs. This means they can be connected to each other, or to any other 5mm pegs or ports.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Battlefield Headquarters]] with [[Full-Barrel]] &amp;amp; [[Overflow]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ActionMaster|Megatron&#039;s]] [[Neutro-Fusion Tank]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]&#039;s [[Stratotronic Jet]] — His missiles have 5mm post holes, rather than 5mm posts. This means you can mount his missiles on mini-con ports or other similar 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Anti-aircraftbase multiconfig.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Blackout and shout!]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cannon Transport]] with [[Terror-Tread]] &amp;amp; [[Cement-Head]] — Features the same 5mm compatibility as the Autobot Combiner Transports.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anti-Aircraft Base]] with [[Blackout (G1)|Blackout]] &amp;amp; [[Spaceshot]] — Is one of the most versatile 5mm-compatible toys of all time. All up the base features eight 5mm ports, seven 5mm posts and a variety of different accessories. The base&#039;s main guns are designed to peg onto 5mm posts so can be used with mini-con ports. The base&#039;s radar equipment and additional weapons are all designed with 5mm posts. Even the base&#039;s ramp features a 5mm port, rather than the limited 5mm post of the Micromaster Combiner Transports. The four 5mm posts on the base proper are hollow, also allowing them to be used as mini-con ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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==UK Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
After Generation 1 ended in the US it continued in the UK unabated. Well, a little bit abated. It wasn&#039;t as big as it was. The UK line at first consisted of redecos of Japanese toys and Action Masters that hadn&#039;t made it to America. After that they continued to produce their own toys. Okay... but what does that have to do with 5mm pegs? Well, sadly, not much. The UK lines did not make extensive use of 5mm pegs, even when they really should have (we&#039;re looking at you, Predator jets). The compatibility of these toys is incredibly limited.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1991===&lt;br /&gt;
The Action Masters from this year didn&#039;t use 5mm pegs at all, meaning that there were only three toys this year with 5mm pegs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flame5mmdemo.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Ready for a Flame war!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flame (Motorvator)|Flame]], [[Gripper (G1)|Gripper]], [[Lightspeed (Motorvator)|Lightspeed]]. — The [[Motorvator]]s, being recycled Japanese toys, used 5mm pegs as standard for their weapons. Their weapons had two sets of pegs letting them be held as swords or guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1992===&lt;br /&gt;
This year introduced the Turbomasters and Predators. Even though both sets of toys (who all have massive guns) would have benefitted from 5mm posts, only two toys out of the entire line have them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rotorstorm (G1)|Rotorstorm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Stalker variousconfigs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Stalk &#039;er? I hardly knew &#039;er.]]&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stalker (G1)|Stalker]] — Unlike Rotorstorm his hands are not 5mm peg holes. Instead the ports on his shoulders are 5mm pegs — his massive missile and his radar dish are on 5mm posts. His lack of 5mm hands is made up for by two screw holes on his wrists which are 5mm holes, allowing him to hold guns there.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1993===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pyro (G1)|Pyro]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clench (G1)|Clench]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s not a lot to say about Japanese Generation 1. The main thing is that there are more Micromasters. More Micromasters means more 5mm pegs. &lt;br /&gt;
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The first few lines that the Japanese marketed independently were mostly reuses of American moulds, with only a few differences. Basically if the American version can use 5mm pegs, so can the Japanese version. In these cases there&#039;s only a handful of toys that need pointing out as independent and unique but the overall line was generally a mess of 5mm pegs everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Headmasters===&lt;br /&gt;
Most of this line was just American release toys repackaged. Basically all of them were 5mm compatible. Almost all of the moulds unique to the Japanese line were also 5mm compatible. &lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Stepper]] and [[Artfire (Headmasters)|Artfire]]. — Jazz and Inferno, two previously non-compatible toys, were retooled and redecoed in Headmasters and used as Targetmasters. Artfire&#039;s fists are expanded to allow him to hold his targetmaster gun [[Nightstick (Artfire)|Nightstick]]. Stepper meanwhile has Jazz&#039;s missile launcher replaced by a plug-in port to allow him to use his Targetmaster unit [[Nightstick (Ricochet)|Nebulon]] as a shoulder cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Billy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Blaster&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[Blaster (G1)|Twincast]] — Redeco and slight retool of G1 Blaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Graphy]], [[Noise]], [[Dile]] and [[Saur]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raiden (Headmasters)|Raiden]] — Like Devastator before him (well, sorta), Raiden can use 5mm weapons while his components cannot.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundblaster]]  — Redeco and slight retool of G1 Soundwave.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Masterforce===&lt;br /&gt;
Again, Masterforce is almost entirely American moulds, but this time there&#039;s more redecos. There&#039;s a few retools, and a handful of new moulds too, with 5mm compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] — He&#039;s a Pretender. And what have we learned so far? That&#039;s right: Pretenders are 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ginrai|Super Ginrai]] and [[Godbomber]] — Ginrai is a retool of Powermaster Optimus Prime, with brand new hands. Brand new retractable 5mm hands! (To replace his old unretractable 5mm hands!) Godbomber is designed to be compatible with Ginrai, to use his accessories and to merge with him, so he gets to be 5mm compatible too. Sweet.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grand Maximus]] — Fortress Maximus with a new deco and some new accessories. He&#039;s compatible with 5mm pegs in the same way as Fortress Maximus, and his new parts are mostly a Pretender shell with some extra weapons. Pretender shell? Well, we know what that means!&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] — Does not have 5mm peg holes for his hands, but has limited compatibility thanks to a handful of 5mm holes and some 5mm pegs on his smaller accessories. This toy was also released in Europe in 1992.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Browning]] — As well as multiple sets of fists, Browning also has 5mm post holes on his shoulders for added shoulder cannon action.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]] — A retool of G1 Scorponok with a new robot mode head and some new weapons. He&#039;s 5mm compatible in the same ways as Scorponok, but with updated [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]] compatibility to boot.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Victory===&lt;br /&gt;
Victory was radically different from the American toy line of the time. Most of the toys were unique to Japan, and most of them had 5mm compatibility to some extent.&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]] and their combined form Victory Saber&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blacker]], [[Laster]], [[Braver]] and their combined form [[Road Caesar]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]] — While the individual components are not generally 5mm compatible, Landcross has 5mm fists. Some of his components have 5mm holes on their vehicle modes for storing merge parts.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galaxy Shuttle]] — Dude&#039;s basically a Micromaster toy, of course he&#039;s 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Greatshot]] — A retool and redeco of Sixshot.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Liokaiser (Victory)|Liokaiser]] — As with most every merge group, Liokaiser&#039;s fists are 5mm pegs. His individual components are mostly not 5mm compatible. [[Leozack]] has 5mm ports, and [[Guyhawk]] and [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]] have 5mm posts, used in merging. [[Killbison]]&#039;s tank mode guns are on a 5mm plug, which becomes Liokaiser&#039;s hand-held weapons. None of these ports and plugs are particularly accessible or useful. Unless you want to give Leozack gun knees, which... who wouldn&#039;t want to?&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dinoking (Victory)|Dinoking]] — A redeco of Monstructor with new Pretender shells, he&#039;s 5mm compatible in exactly the same way.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] and [[Blue Bacchus]] — Retools and redecos of Crossblades and Thunderwing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Zone===&lt;br /&gt;
Zone is basically the Japanese equivalent of the American Micromasters line. Most of the toys were straight repackagings of the American releases, with basically no changes. The rest were either new Micromaster bases (with 5mm weapons) or redecos of American bases. 5mm compatibility had been more or less the norm for Japanese Generation 1, and Zone would cement their place with only the individual Micromasters not being fully 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]], [[Sonic Bomber]], [[Roadfire|Road Fire]] and their merged form [[Big Powered]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Landshaker]] and [[Sky Hyper]] — Redecos of Groundshaker and Sky Hopper&#039;s bases with new pilots and the same ole weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] — Dude, a crazy Decepticon redeco of Metroplex. Just as compatible with 5mm pegs as Metroplex ever was. But more blue.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return of Convoy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Microtrailer versatility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Is there nothing they can&#039;t do?!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Yup, Optimus Prime got a new toy this year. Yawn. What we&#039;re really interested in is two brand new concepts. First of all, all the Micromaster patrols were re-released this year, and packaged with brand new Micro Trailers. Secondly we were introduced to six-member Micromaster combiner teams which merge more traditionally than the American Micromaster combiners.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Micro Trailers were simple launchers for the Micromasters, and there were (including the three packaged with the bulks from this year) 14 in all. From a 5mm compatibility point of view, these things are incredible. They&#039;re designed to combine, pegging into each other. The result is two hollow 5mm posts, and two 5mm ports on each little trailer. You can load them up with weapons, plug Mini-Cons into them or just have larger robots hold them as weapons. Just to add to it, they&#039;ve got ports for American Micromaster Combiners to tow them with, connectors for Micromaster ramps, and a tab to let Sky Garry carry them. Interactivity? You freakin&#039; bet.&lt;br /&gt;
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The six member combiners are significant because they are the first (and to date &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039;) combiner teams to use 5mm pegs to connect actual robots together. The six Micromasters in each team combine around a frame that makes up the torso, head, and thighs of the robot. The shoulders of this frame use hollow 5mm pegs to connect its arms. It&#039;s significant because it means that the arm components for all the six member Micromaster combiners have large 5mm ports, allowing them to peg onto 5mm posts — like Mini-Con pegs, for example.&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grandus (ROC)|Grandus]], [[Sky Garry (ROC)|Sky Garry]], and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Star Convoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Micro Trailer]]s #0 to 12, and Star Convoy&#039;s Micro Trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Micromerge5mmcompatibility.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixliner]] — Sixliner was the first of the six member Micromaster combiner teams. He had 5mm compatible fists, a 5mm compatible gun (with two hollow 5mm pegs on the side) and oddly enough 5mm compatible toes. His combiner parts  can all become carriages for the train modes of his individual Micromasters. His main torso section has three hollow 5mm posts on it, allowing it to mount Mini-Cons, or to be held by larger robots as a strange gun (which you can then mount Mini-Cons on). Sixliner&#039;s arms, [[Leaf]] and [[Alan (ROC)|Alan]] connect to him via 5mm ports that can be used to peg them on any 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Operation Combination===&lt;br /&gt;
The last gasp of Generation 1 in Japan. This line was a mish-mash of new moulds, redecos of old moulds and UK imports. &lt;br /&gt;
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The most important part of the line from our point of view right now is the new six member Micromaster combiners. There was a retool of Sixliner, and 3 entirely new mould teams. The three new teams use a generic body frame which uses far more 5mm pegs than the Sixliner body. The head and feet, as well as the shoulders, now connect by 5mm posts. This new versatility meant that four members of the team, not just two, could peg onto 5mm posts. The parts of these new combiners could also merge into a jet — but if you merge them into a jet you can&#039;t use the parts as weapons for larger robots, and who wants that? No one.&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixturbo]] — His arms and legs, [[Circuit (OC)|Circuit]], [[Neo-Wheel]], [[Discharge]] and [[Sireen]] all have 5mm ports.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixbuilder]] — His arms and legs, [[Digger]], [[Iron Lift]], [[Mixing]] and [[Treader]] all have 5mm ports.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixwing]] — His arms and legs, [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]], [[Flanker]], [[Raker]] and [[Supersonic]] all have 5mm ports.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guard City]] — A redeco, barely, of Generation 1 Defensor. Compatible in exactly the same way as the original mould.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sixtrain]] — A retool of Sixliner. His arms [[Atlan]] and [[Raise]] have 5mm ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Battle Gaia (OC)|Battle Gaia]] — A redeco of Generation 1 Bruticus. Compatible in exactly the same way as the original mould.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation 2==&lt;br /&gt;
Come 1993 and &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; was given a rebirth, both in the US (who hadn&#039;t had toys on the shelves since 1990) and in the rest of the world, called &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039;. This toyline was a mixture of vintage Generation 1 &#039;&#039;[[Diaclone]]&#039;&#039;-based toys, redecos of toys released in the UK and later on a whole slew of brand new moulds created just for that line. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; was only moderately 5mm-friendly. The old moulds retained their old compatibilities, and the new moulds tended to be much smaller toys that weren&#039;t able to have large fist holes. Still, there are a handful of new and interesting toys with 5mm compatibility, and many of them would go on to be prominent toys in later lines as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1993===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Optimus Prime]] — This toy is a redeco and retool of Generation 1 Optimus Prime. The main difference now is the addition of a voice pack with two 5mm post holes on it and the addition of two brand-new hand-held missile launchers with 5mm posts. This added versatility has basically never been carried forwards to other re-releases of the mould.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jazz (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)#Generation 2 2|Sideswipe]] — These two (redecos of the G1 toys) are NOT 5mm compatible, but their missile launchers have a double-post, making their &#039;&#039;&#039;guns&#039;&#039;&#039; 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Devastator (G1)#Generation 2|Devastator]] — This toy was released twice in two different new decos, but it&#039;s still the same tooling as the Generation 1 toy with the same compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ramjet (G1)#Generation 2 2|Ramjet]] and [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Starscream]] — Redecos of the Generation 1 toys with the same compatibilities. They also have new missile launchers (that actually launch!) and a new sound box, but neither of these really adds any new compatibility to the toys.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron]] — This is the first new Gen2 exclusive mould created for the American toy line. It&#039;s also the first new mould with 5mm fists.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1994===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Superion (G1)#Generation 2|Superion]] — A redeco of the Generation 1 toy, with the same very very limited compatibility, but with the added bonus of Gold Plastic Syndrome.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silverbolt (G1)#Generation 2 2|Silverbolt]] — A redeco of the Generation 1 toy, unlike the original toy this Silverbolt is retooled to have 5mm post holes on his wings, for a pair of new missile launchers. Silverbolt&#039;s launchers are the same basic mould as those used by the Skyraiders, but were retooled to have a double-post so that Superion could hold them. Because he doesn&#039;t have 5mm fists. Because Superion is a poopy-head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Hero Optimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Electro (G2)#Generation 2 2|Electro]] and [[Volt#Generation 2 2|Volt]].&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruticus (G1)#Generation 2|Bruticus]] and the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] — A slightly retooled and extensively redecoed version of the original toy with the same basic compatibilities. [[Onslaught (G1)#Generation 2 2|Onslaught]] also has a new missile launcher which is 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Hero Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sizzle (G2)#Generation 2 2|Sizzle]] and [[Jolt (G2)#Generation 2 2|Jolt]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===1995===&lt;br /&gt;
The last year of &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; was getting more and more experimental, with toys with all kinds of different gimmicks, all kinds of brand new features. Unfortunately this year also saw a severe downsizing of the toys — smaller toys became the standard. That left room for only one toy this year with 5mm fists and accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
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;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Laser Optimus Prime]] — Probably because of a decided downturn in the &#039;&#039;size&#039;&#039; of individual toys in 1995, Laser Optimus Prime is the &#039;&#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039;&#039; toy this year with 5mm pegs.  His sword, laser cannon, and missile launcher have 5mm handles.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beast Wars==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Optimusprimal5mmposts.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Share and share alike.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039;, 5mm posts took a pasting. Suddenly they just weren&#039;t standard any more. If &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; was experimental in its last days, then &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; was even more experimental. There were basically no singular standards for this line. Characters were completely self-contained [[play pattern]]s, based around their animal modes. As the line evolved general gimmicks, again based on the aesthetics of the toy rather than their play pattern, began to dominate. The only place that 5mm post holes were generally universal were the larger scale Ultra toys who mostly featured 5mm hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tolerances are a big issue with &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; toys with 5mm posts, the following list is as comprehensive as it can be, but you might find you struggle to use the 5mm compatibility on some of your toys. In the testing phase different samples ranged from impossibly tight, to perfect, to really loose.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1996===&lt;br /&gt;
;MAXIMALS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dinobot (BW)#Toys|Dinobot]] — Dinobot&#039;s weapons and accessories and hands are all 5mm posts. This is great, seeing as this mould was released again, and again, and again. His famous [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|rotating blade]] weapon has a 5mm post hole in it that allows it to mount on a 5mm post on his dinosaur mode back. This is especially useful for mounting the tail weapon on his back in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Polar Claw]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Beast Wars|Ultra Optimus Primal]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] Has 5mm screw holes in his robot back, and a non-screw 5mm hole in his head — these are almost useless. However, his waist kibble has [[Mini-Con]]-compatible pegs, as does the front of his shield.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1997===&lt;br /&gt;
;MAXIMALS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Grimlock]] — A [[redeco]] of the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Dinobot mould with the same compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Ironhide]] and [[Magnaboss#Beast Wars|Magnaboss]] — [[Silverbolt (G1)#Beast Wars|Silverbolt]] and [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Prowl]] are not 5mm compatible, but Ironhide, Magnaboss&#039; sword, and Magnaboss are. The small hollow pegs on Ironhide&#039;s elephant shell halves are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; 5mm, but the size of the inner hole is such that they &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; grip Mini-Cons.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[B&#039;Boom]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;PREDACONS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ram Horn#Toys|Ram Horn]] and [[Tripredacus#Toys|Tripredacus]] — Ramhorn has 5mm hands, giving Tripredacus one 5mm hand too. The other members of the team are not 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inferno (BW)#Toys|Inferno]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===1998===&lt;br /&gt;
;MAXIMALS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Transmetal Cheetor]] — His fists are an unconventional shape, but hold 5mm weapons just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Beast Wars|Transmetal Optimus Primal]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Primal/toys#Beast Wars|Optimal Optimus]] —  While he doesn&#039;t have 5mm peg holes for his fists, he does have 5mm pegs on his wrists, (on angles, so their use is limited) and he &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; have hollow 5mm pegs (perfect for Mini-Cons) on his rifle! On his shoulders are a couple of other 5mm pegs too.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Torca]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;PREDACONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Transmetal Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rampage (BW)#Beast Wars|Transmetal Rampage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Antagony (BW)#Beast Wars|Botcon Antagony]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===1999===&lt;br /&gt;
;MAXIMALS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Minor#Toys|Optimus Minor]] — On his own, Optimus Minor is not 5mm compatible. However, his tail weapon uses two different 5mm pegs — one of which is hollow, perfect for Mini-Cons! The allows him to hold a Mini-Con in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tigerhawk#Toys|Tigerhawk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;PREDACONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Transmetal II Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars II===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]&#039;&#039; was a Japanese only line capitalizing on the success of &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s mostly a [[redeco]] line, with a handful of brand new toys or moulds. There&#039;s a bunch of old toys in this line with 5mm compatibility, and a few retools and redecos. There&#039;s only one new mould. Lio Convoy looks like he should have them, but his fists are actually a bit bigger than the 5mm standard.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BWII-toy Autolauncher.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Autolauncher, a canceled &#039;&#039;Generation 2 toy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lio Convoy (BWII)|Lio Convoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Santon]] and [[Magnaboss]] — Redecos of Beast Wars Ironhide and Magnaboss.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autolauncher]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megastorm]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megastorm|Gigastorm]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[God Neptune (BWII)|God Neptune]] — A redeco of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]s minus [[Nautilator (G1)|Nautilator]], with most of the same 5mm compatibilities as the original group. They were released in a gift set, and also lacked the individual gun stands that the original Seacons had. Man... sucky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars Neo===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BWN-toy Stampy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|That peg placement &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; be worse...]]&lt;br /&gt;
;CYBERTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Big Convoy (BWN)|Big Convoy]] — Includes a 5mm peg-compatible Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Break]] — 5mm peg under each wing to use him as a missile launcher&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stampy (BWN)|Stampy]] — 5mm peg on his chest (with embossed Maximal symbol on the end) so his blade weapon mode can be held&lt;br /&gt;
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;DESTRONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elephorca]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beast Machines==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039; saw the almost complete abandonment of the 5mm peg for its toys. The introduction of uniquely moulded hands and toys with few if any accessories meant that 5mm peg holes were no longer needed. In fact, in all of &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, there is only one toy with deliberate 5mm peg holes for hands. There&#039;s others with 5mm screw holes or 5mm peg holes that can be used to make them compatible with older weapons, but for the most part, &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; emphasized completely self-contained toys. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the flip side, &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; was one of the first&#039;&#039; Transformers&#039;&#039; lines to introduce vehicles and separately sold weapon-accessories for other toys, in the form of the [[Beast Rider]]s and [[Deployer (BM)|Deployer]] assortments. These toys, while emphasizing interactivity with other toys, did so without the use of pegs.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000===&lt;br /&gt;
;VEHICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Machines|Megatron]] — The only toy in the entire line that&#039;s deliberately 5mm compatible, the Mega-sized Megatron toy has a single 5mm fist in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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==2001 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike the much more focused and consistently designed &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;]] was an absolute hodge-podge of a line. It used a combination of new moulds, vintage moulds, and contemporary redecos that saw toys from all over the place incorporated into the line. This was both good and bad for 5mm peg enthusiasts—mostly bad, since the majority of the redecos came from &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]&#039;&#039; [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]]s or &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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The handful of brand new toys in the line didn&#039;t really emphasize interactivity through compatibility of accessories. Instead they emphasized interactivity through figure combination. Still, there&#039;s a handful of stuff there worthy of inclusion here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2001===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wedge#Toys|Wedge]], [[Heavy Load (RID)#Toys|Heavy Load]], [[Hightower (RID)#Toys|Hightower]], [[Grimlock (RID)#Toys|Grimlock]] and [[Landfill (RID)#Toys|Landfill]] — Grimlock is the only member of the team lacking 5mm fists, but fortunately he makes up for it in combined form where he forms a part with 5mm compatible hands (well, claws) for Landfill. In fact all of Landfill&#039;s configurations are 5mm compatible. Woo!&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Optimus Prime (RID)#Toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (RID)#Toys|Ultra Magnus]] — Both use 5mm posts extensively. Only the smaller, non-super-mode Prime actually has 5mm FISTS. Prime&#039;s super mode lacks 5mm fists, or fists at all. Omega Prime&#039;s and Ultra Magnus&#039;s hands do have 5mm holes on the palms, and Magnus&#039;s thumbs have 5mm posts. Prime is also covered in a bunch of hollow 5mm posts that can be used as mini-con ports, and both have 5mm posts and holes out the wazoo.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS/PREDACONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ruination (RID)#Toys|Ruination]] — Ruination is a [[redeco]] and slight [[retool]] of the Generation 1 [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]s. Initially, in &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;, all five components were released separately, though later on they were released only as gift sets. The main difference to the moulds is that the Combaticons&#039; weapons were retooled so they could create two super weapons for Ruination. These super weapons are 5mm compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (RID)#Toys|Megatron]] and [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===2002===&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS/PREDACONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cryotek (RID)#Toys|Cryotek]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; [[Megatron (BW)/toys#TM2|Transmetal 2 Megatron]], has 5mm fists just the same.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scourge (RID)#Toys|Scourge]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|Laser Optimus Prime]] with all his compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2003===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]] — Same compatibilities as ever, but now in yellow! Plus, it&#039;s a gift set!&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scourge (RID)#Destructicon|Destructicon Scourge]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#HeroOptimusPrime|Hero Optimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bludgeon (RID)|Destructicon Bludgeon]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Hero|Hero Megatron]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ruination (RID)#UrbanCamo|Ruination]] — Same as before, but now more urban! And in a gift set!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Armada==&lt;br /&gt;
For 5mm peg addicts, the Unicron Trilogy was a godsend. It was the first Transformers toyline not only to feature 5mm pegs as standard on nearly every single toy, but also to advertise this interactivity. It&#039;s all down to one thing: Mini-Cons. Mini-Cons and their contribution are covered a bit earlier in this article, but it&#039;s important here to mention their... well...importance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mini-Cons each came with a 5mm peg hole, with a smaller (1mm?) peg imbedded inside it. Mini-Cons could then plug onto hollow (but NOT solid) 5mm pegs, usually referred to as Mini-Con hardpoints. Some of these hardpoints included small triggers which were pushed down by the smaller peg inside the Mini-Con&#039;s 5mm post hole. This activated gimmicks on the larger toys, and is why the Mini-Con don&#039;t simply have 5mm post holes.&lt;br /&gt;
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The inclusion of Mini-Cons as a set of figures compatible with all larger Armada figures saw an overnight change. Suddenly 5mm pegs were the standard again and all but the roleplay toys in the Armada line have 5mm pegs. However, carrying on from Beast Machines and Beast Wars, many Armada toys had unique or oddly moulded hands, which is madness when you have add on weapons with 5mm pegs and lots of the toys can&#039;t hold them.  5mm fists would not make their complete comeback until Energon.  &lt;br /&gt;
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===2003===&lt;br /&gt;
;MINI-CONS&lt;br /&gt;
The Mini-Cons are all 5mm-compatible in the same way: All Mini-Cons can peg onto &#039;&#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039;&#039; hollow 5mm pegs. Specific toys that can use them which aren&#039;t part of the Unicron trilogy are discussed all through this article, including RiD Optimus Prime, the Micromaster Anti-Aircraft Base, and Beast Wars K-9. Listed below are specific Mini-Cons with unique 5mm compatibilities not covered by straightforward Powerlinking.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] and [[Run-Over]] — Transform into guns with 5mm-compatible handles.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rollout (Armada)|Rollout]] — He has a 5mm-compatible trailer hitch that can be used as a Mini-Con port, allowing other Mini-Cons to peg onto him!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leader-1 (Armada)|Leader-1]] and [[Clench (Armada)|Clench]] — Both have 5mm-thick arms, allowing them to become 5mm-compatible guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sonar (Armada)|Sonar]] and the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] — The Air Defence Team merges to become the Star Saber sword. The sword can be held by any toys with 5mm fists or pegged onto Mini-Con compatible posts. Of the three members of the team, only Sonar has an extra feature. He has a 5mm post accessible mostly in shuttle mode, allowing him to be held in other figures&#039; hands (as well as allowing him to be the base of the Star Saber sword).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maverick]] and the [[Vorpal Saber|Dark Saber]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Prowl (Armada)|Prowl]] — Prowl transforms into a 5mm-compatible gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Dirt Boss (Armada)|Dirt Boss]] and the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] — The Race Mini-Con Team merge into an enormous shield designed for use with larger toys with 5mm-compatible fists. Dirt Boss has a 5mm-compatible head because of this. Yeah, you heard right, his head is a 5mm post.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Payload (Armada)|Payload]], [[Sky Blast]] and the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]] — The Space Team merge into the Requiem Blaster, a super-gun meant for use by toys with 5mm-compatible fists. Payload has the 5mm peg that becomes the handle for the blaster, so he can be hand-held. Sky Blast also has a 5mm peg, this one hollow so that you can mount other Mini-cons on top of the Requiem Blaster and power it up even MORE. Yeah. Insane, right? It also means Sky Blast can be hand-held or merge with Energon weapons, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] — In skateboard mode, he has a Mini-Con compatible peg on top of him, allowing other Mini-cons to be plugged into him.&lt;br /&gt;
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;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]], [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Hoist]] — None of these three moulds sport 5mm hands. Smokescreen has a 5mm screw hole on his arms just below his fists which can be used as a kind of 5mm fist, but neither Blurr nor Hoist have 5mm fists at all.  Smokescreen even came in a boxset with the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] in Japan and he can&#039;t hold it!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]], [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Powerlinx Hot Shot]], and [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]]  — All feature standard 5mm fists. Side Swipe even has a 5mm-compatible gun. In Japan, Hot Shot was given an LED in one hand to allow him to light up 5mm-compatible translucent weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]] — Three redecos of Beast Wars toys, they were retooled so they would have Mini-Con hardpoints. They were not retooled to have 5mm compatible fists, however, so neither Rhinox nor Airazor can use 5mm-compatible weapons. Cheetor still can, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] and [[Red Alert (Armada)|Powerlinx Red Alert]] — Red Alert is 5mm compatible out the wazoo. He has Mini-Con pegs all over, plus a 5mm fist, a 5mm port on his shoulder for shoulder cannons, a 5mm compatible rifle... oh yeah, and interchangeable tool hands which plug in using a 5mm peg.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] — He doesn&#039;t have 5mm-compatible hands. But he does have big, stompy feet, so we forgive him.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Overload (Armada)|Overload]], [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetfire (Armada)|Powerlinx Jetfire]] — Both moulds have 5mm fists, though Overload&#039;s are very limited due to his enormously high wrists. Overload also has a 5mm-compatible port as his trailer hitch so he can be towed by Optimus Prime or his Mini-Con.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Supercon Optimus Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Super Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Powerlinx Optimus Prime]] — Both the large and small Optimus Prime toys have 5mm fists. Even in his Super Mode, Prime has 5mm fists. The hitch used to pull Prime&#039;s trailer is a 5mm post, shared by both the large and small versions of the toys. This means that the small Prime can pull the larger toy&#039;s trailer, or either of them can pull Armada Overload. You can also use this hitch as a mount for 5mm compatible weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Powerlinx Cyclonus]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]], [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Thrust (Armada)|Powerlinx Thrust]] — Do not have 5mm compatible fists. They do have plenty of Mini-Con ports, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] — The only Supercon Decepticon with 5mm-compatible fists. He also has missiles that he uses as clubs (well, in the fiction he uses them as guns...sorta...), and they&#039;re 5mm compatible too.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]] — A redeco of Supercon Optimus Prime. He has all the same compatibilities, including being able to pull the Super Prime&#039;s trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]] — A redeco and retool of Beast Wars Transmetal Terrorsaur. The retooling gives him Mini-Con pegs, but not 5mm-compatible fists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Predacon (Armada)|Predacon]] — A redeco and retool of Beast Wars TM Megatron. Like the original version of the mould, he has 5mm fists and a 5mm tail weapon, but now he also sports four brand new Mini-Con pegs.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] — All have 5mm hands in addition to their Mini-Con pegs.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] — Doesn&#039;t have 5mm fists, even if he is loaded with an unbelievable number of Mini-Con ports.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] and [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Galvatron]] — They traded useless knees for unreasonable numbers of Mini-Con hardpoints. Their insane number of Mini-Con pegs makes them one of the most 5mm compatible moulds in history. The toy is perfect for overloading with weapons in either robot or tank mode, and in robot mode, he even gets a 5mm-compatible fist (only the one, because the other hand is concealing a knife).&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] - In total, the planet-eater has 27 Mini-Con-compatible pegs in planet mode and 30 in robot mode — 32 if you count the two conveniently shaped pegs on the back of his right hand.  Of those, 24 are situated on his wings/planet ring.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Energon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Energonweapon demo 001.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Now his shot&#039;s 6 times as hot!]]&lt;br /&gt;
With &#039;&#039;Transformers Energon&#039;&#039;, the 5mm golden age continued. Mini-Cons were dropped in favour of a return to the basic price point, but Energon figures still retained their 5mm compatibility and their Mini-Con hardpoints. The line introduced new translucent weapons called energon weapons. The energon weapons were versatile, often multi-part weapons which frequently had both traditional 5mm posts and ports and Mini-Con-style 5mm posts and ports. They could be mounted on Mini-Con pegs, used to activate Mini-Con gimmicks on Armada toys, and merged to create insanely over-the-top super weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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There were two distinct types of energon weapons. There were the multi-part accessories packed with the Omnicons, which often had 3 or 4 distinct components. Strictly speaking these (and a few weapons of larger toys) were the weapons advertised officially as [[Energon weapon]]s. There were also the more static and traditional rifles and missile launchers packed with the larger &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; toys, even these weapons usually still had multiple posts and ports, including Mini-Con posts and ports, allowing them to be merged with other Energon weapons. As the series progressed, a third type of energon weapon was added: the multi-configuration weapons included with the Energon quintro-combiners, which were designed to be feet and hands for the large &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; combiner robots, as well as weapons for the component robots.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; was really the first Transformers toy line to emphasise and advertise swapping and trading weapons as a pattern of play, despite the fact that Transformers toy lines had been capable of this play pattern since nearly the beginning. Over in Japan, this was emphasised even more with energon weapons from Omnibots given away, sold as separate units, or included as bonuses with redecos.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2004===&lt;br /&gt;
;MINI-CONS&lt;br /&gt;
Not many Mini-Cons were produced during &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;. There was only one entirely new team and a handful of redecos. They are all 5mm-compatible, as is standard for Mini-Cons. Those Mini-Cons of special interest are listed below.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Skyboom (Energon)|Skyboom]] and the [[Energon Saber]] — Retooled from Armada&#039;s Star Saber, they have the same basic compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knock Out (Energon)|Knock Out]] — A redeco of Armada Rollout with all the same compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Payload (Armada)|Payload]], [[Sky Blast]] and the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]] — A redeco of the Requiem Blaster from Armada, with the same basic compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
The listing below describes, for the most part, the individual robots. Keep in mind that each toy also came with a gun, usually a transluscent energon weapon with multiple ports and pegs, and even Mini-con compatibility. Even toys without Mini-con plugs of their own often had them on their guns.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Omnicons, [[Offshoot (Energon)|Offshoot]], [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]], [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]], [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]], and his redeco [[Strongarm (Energon)|Energon Strongarm]] — The Omnicons were Basic-sized toys, the first toys featured at this price point to have 5mm fists. Each came with an energon weapon, as described above, made up of several components, and an energon star meant to fit over spark crystal of &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]] — Arcee is the only Omnicon without 5mm fists. She has 5mm post holes in her arms meant to stand in for 5mm fists, but her actual hands are eenie-weenie.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sky Shadow (Energon)|Sky Shadow]], [[Treadshot (Energon)|Treadshot]], [[Terradive (Energon)|Terradive]] and [[Windrazor (Energon)|Windrazor]] — The limb components of Superion Maximus. They had standard 5mm compatibility and unique transformable energon weapons that became &amp;quot;hands&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;feet&amp;quot; for Superion Maximus.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] — Downshift features a spoiler that becomes a unique platform for holding both his guns or any other energon weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]], [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Energon Hot Shot]] and [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]], [[Roadblock (Energon)|Roadblock]] and [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]] — In addition to standard &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; compatibility, these toys retain the Mini-Con ports from &#039;&#039;Transformers: Armada&#039;&#039;. Rodimus has one, Inferno and Roadblock each have two.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tow-Line (Energon)|Tow-Line]] — Unlike the other Combat-Class &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; toys, Tow-Line was actually made up of two components which combine to form his vehicle mode, a robot and a battle platform. The robot is fairly standard for Energon toys, with many post holes for 5mm weapons of all sorts, some of them in rather unusual places. The battle platform in particular, though, is basically designed as a showcase for Energon weapons, making a perfect platform for building insane or over-the-top energon weapon combinations.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Beachcomber (Energon)|Beachcomber]] and [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|Cliffjumper]] — This mould has a Mini-con port on its shoulder pad. Unlike most other &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; Autobots their weapons, while 5mm compatible, are not designed after the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; weapon style. They don&#039;t have any extra posts or ports, and aren&#039;t made of translucent plastics. They&#039;re just simple hand-held guns.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] and [[Ironhide (Energon)|Energon Ironhide]] — One of a handful of &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; moulds without its own hand-held rifle. Has a Mini-Con port on his right forearm.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]] — The Mini-Con ports on their shuttle mode become their toes in robot mode so... uhhh... good luck with that. The rifle that comes with this mould, despite being translucent, is not effective as an Energon weapon. It has two gun posts, but no other compatibility. It may have been intended to, though. On top of the rifle is a piece of moulding that looks exactly like a Mini-Con post, including their unique base... but it&#039;s teeny tiny and undersized.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Treadbolt]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Scavenger with all his compatibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] — He has no hand-held rifle, but he does have a Mini-Con port on his left forearm.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]] and [[Quickstrike (Energon)|Quickstrike]], [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] and [[Landquake (Energon)|Landquake]] — Both these moulds are littered with 5mm ports and pegs. The Bulkhead mould also has a Mini-Con peg on his helicopter tail, while the Landmine mould has two Mini-Con ports on his large cannon for his Brute mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Overload.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] — Prime has 4 Mini-Con pegs in vehicle mode: 2 on his trailer, and 2 on his cab. In robot mode his trailer becomes a base and is still Mini-Con compatible, but the Mini-Con ports are hidden in Prime&#039;s robot mode, sadly. Prime&#039;s gun is just a standard rifle, not an energon weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]] and [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]] — This mould has 4 Mini-Con ports on his shoulders, front and back, and a handful of 5mm posts. Still, considering its size it&#039;s not enormously versatile at using 5mm compatible weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Battle Ravage]], [[Command Ravage]], [[Cruellock]], [[Doom-Lock]] and [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticon]] — All the Energon Terrorcons have 5mm fists as standard. In addition to his Energon weapon Ravage also has a tail mace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] — Divebomb&#039;s wing-mounted weapons come in two variants. The first variant has only one 5mm post on the base of the two-part weapon. The second variant was retooled to have two posts, one at either end of his weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bonecrusher (Energon)|Bonecrusher]], [[Duststorm (Energon)|Duststorm]], [[Sledge (Energon)|Sledge]], and [[Wideload (Energon)|Wideload]] — The limbs of Constructicon Maximus. Each of them has 5mm fists as standard. The Duststorm/Wideload mould also has a Mini-Con peg on its crane arm.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Steamhammer (Energon)|Steamhammer]] — Steamhammer loves Mini-Cons. In both robot and vehicle modes he has 5 Mini-Con posts. That&#039;s a lot, even for an Armada toy, allowing him to hold a partner Mini-Con, an entire Mini-Con team and have one left over for an Energon weapon. Too bad he doesn&#039;t have a Mini-Con partner. (Oh yeah, he&#039;s got a bunch of 5mm post holes too.)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Constructicon Maximus]] — He retains six Mini-Con pegs, four from Steamhammer and two from Dust Storm and Wideload, though Steamhammer&#039;s aren&#039;t particularly accessible. He doesn&#039;t have 5mm peg hole hands.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blackout (combiner)|Blackout]], [[Stormcloud (Energon)|Stormcloud]] — This mould has two 5mm posts on each arm in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blight (Energon)|Blight]], [[Kickback (Energon)|Kickback]]  — The tank mould technically has three Mini-con ports on his weapon, though only one is accessible in vehicle mode, and in robot mode one of them has to form the handle for the gun. In practical terms you&#039;re probably only going to get one Mini-con on there.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barricade (Energon)|Barricade]] — Barricade likes Mini-cons too, but not as much as Steamhammer. He&#039;s got three Mini-con posts in robot mode and two in vehicle mode.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] — Thanks to Barricade he has two Mini-con ports on his thighs. He doesn&#039;t have 5mm post holes for hands, but he does have Mini-con ports on his thumbs when using the tank as an arm, or on his heels if using the tank as a leg.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]]  — In addition to his 5mm fists he has four Mini-con posts, though generally speaking only two are accessible in either mode. Because the posts are on a hinged piece it is possible to expose and use all four at once. His missiles can also fit into his hands, but aren&#039;t particularly effective because he holds them at about the midpoint on the missile.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Energon Starscream]]  — Based conceptually on the G2 Smokescreen mould, unlike that mould Starscream is highly 5mm compatible. He has a crazy Energon weapon, with multiple configurations and mini-con ports, so the gun section of the weapon can be used a Mini-con. He has Mini-con pegs on his wings that are accessible in both modes. Oh yeah, and the heads of his missiles are 5mm, so he can use them as swords if he gets tired of his giant Energon sword.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rapid Run (Energon)|Rapid Run]]  — A redeco of Armada Sideways.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharkticon (Energon)|Sharkticon]], [[Slugslinger (Energon)|Slugslinger]], [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Snow Cat]] — In addition to 5mm fists, they all have Mini-con ports on the kibble on their forearms. Snow Cat only has a port on his left arm.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dreadwing (Energon)|Dreadwing]] and [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Mirage]] — This mould loves 5mm pegs. Including fists each arm has three 5mm peg holes, as well as a Mini-con port. The toy&#039;s missiles are also 5mm wide, letting him hold them as swords. Oh yeah, and he has 5mm posts on the insides of his knees.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shockblast]] and [[Six Shot (Energon)|Six Shot]] — Doesn&#039;t have traditional hands, but has plenty of 5mm post holes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] — Doesn&#039;t have traditional hands, but has plenty of 5mm post holes. Has some very inaccessible Mini-con pegs on the missile launchers on his claws.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] — An awesome redeco of Armada Tidal Wave.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Galvatron]] and [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] — This same basic design was released twice at two different size scales. They&#039;re all 5mm compatible. The larger version has 6 Mini-con ports in jet mode, and two in robot mode. His tank accessory also has&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alpha Quintesson]] — While he doesn&#039;t transform, Alpha Quintesson is positively brimming with 5mm posts. He has a 5mm post missile launcher too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cybertron==&lt;br /&gt;
While &#039;&#039;Transformers Cybertron&#039;&#039; continued the widespread 5mm compatibility seen in &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;, it was in a more low-key form, as the central gimmick of [[Cyber Key]]s had nothing to do with 5mm posts whatsoever.  Mini-Con ports became rare again, though not unheard of — the focus was now almost entirely on weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2005===&lt;br /&gt;
;MINI-CONS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ichibi-peg.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ichibi&#039;s added post actually removes the original Powerlinx function. Whoops.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Mini-Cons were rare at the beginning of Cybertron, consisting of [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] and the [[Recon Mini-Con Team]].  As time went on, however, the line introduced a few more teams, a series of Mini-Con two-packs redecoed from &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; molds, and an assortment of Mini-Cons both old and new as pack-in bonuses.  Naturally, these all retained standard Powerlinking capability; listed below are Mini-Cons with additional abilities beyond that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Checkpoint (Cybertron)|Checkpoint]], [[Stripmine]], and [[Deepdive]] — Each of these Mini-Cons sports a 5mm post.  Stripmine and Deepdive&#039;s posts are hollow.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrap Iron (Cybertron)|Scrap Iron]], [[Backblast]], and [[Blastcharge (Cybertron)|Blastcharge]] — Another redeco of the Requiem Blaster, with everything that implies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Downshift (Armada)|Downshift]], [[Dirt Boss (Armada)|Dirt Boss]], and [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] — Redecoes of the Race Team, with all the same compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bulge]], [[Graviton (Cybertron)|Graviton]] and [[Quasar]] — Redecoes of the [[Emergency Mini-Con Team]]. Bulge (copter) was [[retool]]ed to add a 5mm post to his tail section, and Graviton (crash truck) had a 5mm peg glued into one of his Powerlinx sockets. Both of these additions were to make their weapon modes hand-held.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hyakurai]], [[Ichibi]] and [[Mugen]] — Retools of the [[Air Military Mini-Con Team]]. Each one was given 5mm pegs to make their weapon modes hand-held (even though their main partner, [[Wing Saber (Energon)#Cybertron|Wing Saber]], didn&#039;t have 5mm-compatible hands).&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Vector Prime]] — He is from an earlier, apparently &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;-esque age and his form reflects that.  He is here to sport multiple Mini-Con posts, 5mm fistholes, and a 5mm-compatible sword.  He is not here to blend.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Longrack (Cybertron)|Longrack]] — A retooled &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Hoist]], Longrack still sports a 5mm post. ([[Blurr (Cybertron)|Blurr]] does not.)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] — Has one 5mm hand, and one gun-hand which is a 5mm post, with &amp;quot;hammer&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;claw&amp;quot; attachments that fit on the end.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]], [[Swerve (Cybertron)|Swerve]] — Clocker has a 5mm gun (with two pegs, side by side) and fists to hold it... and also has dual &#039;&#039;exhaust pipe&#039;&#039; accessories that attach (to the undersides of his fists, actually) using hollow 5mm posts.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]], [[Excellion (Cybertron)|Excellion]], [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]], [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]], [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]], [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]], Override GTS, [[Armorhide (Cybertron)|Armorhide]], [[Brakedown (Cybertron)|Brakedown]], Brakedown GTS, [[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]], [[Smokescreen (Cybertron)|Smokescreen]], [[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] — All feature 5mm weapons, fists, and vehicle mode mounting points.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hightail (Cybertron)|Hightail]] — His &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;trombone&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; gun has a 5mm post, and he has the fists to hold it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]], [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]] — Though they lack any handheld weapons of their own, these toys have 5mm fists.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Quickmix (Cybertron)|Quickmix]], [[Cybertron Defense Team|Cybertron Defense]] Hot Shot, Cybertron Defense Red Alert, and Cybertron Defense Scattorshot — Quickmix and all three members of the Cybertron Defense Team have 5mm-compatible fists and accessories, and bear hollow 5mm posts for mounting Mini-Cons.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metroplex (Cybertron)|Metroplex]] — Metroplex is &#039;&#039;covered&#039;&#039; in hollow 5mm posts, with a total of 14.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (Deluxe [[Trukk not munky|trukk]]) — A redeco of the &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Super-Con Optimus Prime mold with the same functionality.  Instead of Over-Run, he includes a special Cyber Key that has the same hole-with-a-post as a Mini-Con, making it capable of attaching to any hollow 5mm post.&lt;br /&gt;
* Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (Cybertron)|Ultra Magnus]] — Redecoes of the &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; versions, with all that that implies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Buzzsaw (Cybertron)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Runamuck (Cybertron)|Runamuck]] — Retooled versions of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Cyclonus and Sideswipe.  Buzzsaw retains most of Cyclonus&#039;s compatibility, but has lost the posts on his missile launchers.  Runamuck, meanwhile, has lost Sideswipe&#039;s accessories in favor of a new 5mm gun.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]], Galvatron, [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]], Ransack GTS, [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]], [[Swindle (Cybertron)|Swindle]], [[Lugnutz]], and [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] — All these figures have 5mm hands and weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]], Dark Crumplezone, [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]], [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)|Dirt Boss]], [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]], and [[Brushguard]] — These figures have 5mm hands, though they include no compatible accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Dark Scorponok]] — A retooled Scorponok that retains the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; toy&#039;s features and adds Cyber Key compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] — Like Arcee before her, Thunderblast&#039;s hands are too small and girly for 5mm holes, so she has them further up on her forearms instead.  Her weapon is 5mm-compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Menasor (Cybertron)|Menasor]] — Like Metroplex, Menasor likes Mini-Cons.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cannonball (Cybertron)|Cannonball]] — A redeco of Red Alert with the same compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrapmetal (Cybertron individual)|Scrap]][[Scrapmetal (race)|metal]] — All Scrapmetals have 5mm fists, and in an undocumented feature, their flip-out blades can be hand-held.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] — A redeco of &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Demolishor with the same features.  Instead of Blackout, he includes a Cyber Key with a Mini-Con-style 5mm hole on the back, similar to the deluxe Optimus Prime&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;OTHER&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Primus]] — Like Unicron before him, Primus sports an assortment of hollow 5mm posts.  His total is far lower (nine), but in Primus&#039;s defense, most of Unicron&#039;s are on his ring.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] and [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] — Both feature 5mm fists and accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Classics==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; brought back many old &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; characters with new toys, and most of those toys were 5mm compatible.  It also introduced yet more Mini-Cons, though hollow 5mm posts are few and far between in &#039;&#039;Classics.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007)==&lt;br /&gt;
The live-action movie toyline mostly eschewed the use of the 5mm system, in part because the integrated nature of the characters&#039; weapons meant a low number of handheld accessories overall.  Nevertheless, the reuse of various molds from the previous few years ensured that 5mm posts continued to appear.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Animated==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; had few 5mm-compatible toys, but they existed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===2008===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime]] - His axe and shield have 5mm posts, and therefore his hands are also compatible with them.&lt;br /&gt;
* Voyager Class Optimus Prime - Both his axe and his water gun use the standard 5mm posts, and therefore his hands are also compatible.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Battle Begins Optimus Prime - His axe uses the 5mm post for its handle, and his hands are compatible with them... as is the hole in his buttocks.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]] - His hands are open with a 5mm groove in them to hold such accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] - Both his shield and [[lance]] sport 5mm posts, and his hands are compatible. However, the fingers are sculpted with a gap over the 5mm holes, so accessories with smaller posts can only be held from the bottom of his hands.&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] - The inside of his robot mode hands sport 5mm posts, which can also double as a Mini-Con port. His mace also has a 5mm hole in it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] — Appropriately enough, Swindle is equipped with a large cannon on a 5mm post, and has two 5mm holes with which to use it.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Animated)|Leader Class Megatron]] - His swords are mounted on 5mm handles, and his hands therefore sport 5mm holes.&lt;br /&gt;
* Shadow Blade Megatron - Being a redeco of Leader Class Megatron, he carries over the same 5mm compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] - His gun/crane uses a 5mm post, so the holes in his forearms and back are compatible with other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===2009===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
* Freeway Jazz - Being a redeco of Jazz, he shares the same 5mm-holed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
* Atomic Lugnut - Being a redeco of Lugnut, Atomic Lugnut sports the same posts in his hands, and the same hole on his mace.&lt;br /&gt;
* Shockwave Vs. Bumblebee - The Shockwave in this pack, being a redeco of the previous Shockwave, has the same post/ports.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===2010===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] - Arcee&#039;s hands can hold 5mm post weapons. However, her weapons are slightly thicker. This resulted in many a broken thumb.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Minor]] - The tabs on his bow are 5mm wide.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===2011===&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Minerva (Animated)|Minerva]] - Being a redeco of Arcee, she shares the same 5mm-holed hands. But continue to be careful with her slaggin&#039; thumbs!&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sideswipe (Animated)|Sideswipe]] - Being a redeco of Breakdown, Sideswipe shares the 5mm bow tabs.&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dead End (Animated)|Dead End]] - Being a redeco of Jazz, he shares the same 5mm-holed hands.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drag Strip (Animated)|Drag Strip]] - Being a redeco of Arcee, she shares the same 5mm-holed hands. But continue to be careful with the swords!&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Motor Master|Motormaster]] - Being a retool of Voyager Class Optimus Prime, his axe and cannon use the same 5mm posts, and the hands use the same 5mm holes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]] - Being a redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime, his axe and cannon use the same 5mm posts, and the hands use the same 5mm holes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Breakdown (Animated)|Breakdown]] - Being a retool of Rodimus Minor, Breakdown shares the same 5mm tabs on his bow.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Universe (2008)==&lt;br /&gt;
Following in the footsteps of &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; toys nearly always featured 5mm fists and accessories.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Revenge of the Fallen==&lt;br /&gt;
The toys for the &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie initially returned to the design principles of the previous live-action movie, but in time, 5mm accessories began to creep back in.  This line also introduced an alternate system of interchangeable accessories, the [[C joint]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generations==&lt;br /&gt;
Once again, &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; typically followed the example of &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Universe,&#039;&#039; featuring widespread 5mm compatibility.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Power Core Combiners==&lt;br /&gt;
Much like &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Power Core Combiners&#039;&#039; heavily emphasized compatibility between different toys.  The main focus of the line, the &amp;quot;combination&amp;quot; suggested by the title, was a series of &amp;quot;Commander&amp;quot; figures who could combine with interchangeable drone vehicles in a fashion similar to the [[Special Teams]].  Commanders were sold either with sets of drones or in smaller packs with Mini-Cons.  These Mini-Cons were also designed to have weapon modes, using 5mm posts, and as such 5mm fists proliferated.  The Commander figures also featured hollow 5mm posts for mounting the Mini-Cons, and the drones all featured hollow 5mm posts as well, leading to [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CombinatorialExplosion insanity].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===2010===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PCC-toy Backwind.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]&lt;br /&gt;
;MINI-CONS&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In additional to the usual capabilities of Mini-Cons, every &#039;&#039;PCC&#039;&#039; Mini-Con has at least one 5mm post, usually hollow, which enables it to be handheld.  Special cases are listed below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chopster]], [[Razorbeam]] — The axe Mini-Cons unfortunately have a narrower segment below the 5mm grip, similar to double-posted weapons, and as such they cannot be held by toys with shallower fist holes (ironically including [[Darkstream]]).  The post is also solid, so it can only connect to empty 5mm holes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Backwind]], [[Beacon (PCC)|Beacon]], and [[Pinpoint]] — These three have empty 5mm holes rather than the usual Mini-Con ports.  This prevents them from activating Powerlinx gimmicks, but allows them to attach to ordinary 5mm posts, not just hollow ones.&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
;AUTOBOTS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PCC-toy Rallybots.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The Rallybots feature &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot; 5mm Powerlinx plugs. Neat! Pity about everything else about them.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skyburst]] — One hollow post on his back, and shallow 5mm fists.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Aerialbot (PCC)|Aerialbots]] — All four drones have hollow 5mm posts on the top, though the Fighter Jet&#039;s is not really useful in combined mode.  The helicopters&#039; posts are on top of their rotors, and as such any Mini-Cons or weapons attached there will spin freely.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Huffer (PCC)|Huffer]] — For unknown reasons, Huffer has fist holes, but they are far too small to hold 5mm posts.  He has a hollow 5mm post on his right forearm to make up for this, and another flip-out post on his chest.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Searchlight (PCC)|Searchlight]] — Searchlight is absurdly 5mm-compatible for a toy of his size.  In addition to the usual 5mm fists, he has 5mm holes in the sides of his forearms, meant for attaching his vehicle mode rotors.  He also has the flip-out hollow chest post typical of &#039;&#039;PCC&#039;&#039; Commander molds originating in two-packs, and a second hollow post on what becomes the underside of his cockpit in vehicle mode.  As implied by the forearm holes, his rotors are separate accessories that can connect to any 5mm peghole (including the one on Backwind&#039;s chest).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Double Clutch (PCC)|Double Clutch]] — He has a single hollow post on a hinged panel, which is normally concealed in most modes but can be folded out.  For holding weapons he has sideways holes on the inside of his forearms, which are awkward in robot mode but can be used more effectively as shoulder weapon mounts in his torso mode.  They&#039;re shallow, but with their positioning you probably wouldn&#039;t want to give him Chopster anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Rallybot]]s — Each Rallybot has a hollow post that can fold away, located on the rear bumper of the Race Car and on top of the others.  Interestingly, the Street Racer reveals a &#039;&#039;second&#039;&#039; post in leg mode, which is necessary since the vehicle-mode post ends up on the bottom of the foot.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leadfoot (PCC)|Leadfoot]] — Like Double Clutch, Leadfoot has sideways forearm holes instead of fists.  Unlike Double Clutch and basically everyone else ever, both of his hollow posts are flip-out posts for chest armor, one (normally concealed under his windshield) for his robot chest and one for his combined chest.  Both can be used in vehicle mode as well.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stakeout (PCC)|Stakeout]] — A redeco of Smolder with the same features.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Protectobot (PCC)|Protectobots]] — Redecos of two Aerialbots (Chopper and Fighter Jet) and two Combaticons (APC and Tank).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Steelshot]] — A redeco of Bombshock with the same features.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Grimstone (PCC)|Grimstone]] — Grimstone has shallow fists and a single 5mm post on his &#039;&#039;tail&#039;&#039; (in robot mode, his back).&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Dinobot (PCC)|Dinobots]] — The &#039;&#039;Parasaurolophus&#039;&#039; drone has two side-mounted Mini-Con posts.  The others are more or less standard.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Heavytread (PCC)|Heavytread]] — In addition to the usual flip-out chest post and 5mm hands (irregularly-shaped but usable), Heavytread has a 5mm peghole on top of his vehicle mode near the forward right corner.  This hole is usable in all three modes, ending up approximately on his wrist in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]] — A redeco of Mudslinger with the same compatibility.  Since he has 5mm fists, [[Bomb-Burst (PCC)|Bomb-Burst]] gets the official weapon mode that&#039;s technically a fanmode on Chainclaw.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;DECEPTICONS&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PCC-toy Sledge.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Sledge and his weird chest-peg assembly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bombshock (PCC)|Bombshock]] — Bombshock has two hollow posts quite close to each other: one is on top of his turret (ending up on the back of his torso mode head), while the other is between his cannons.  Both end up on his back in robot mode, in varying configurations depending on how his kibble is arranged.  Like his wavemate Skyburst, he has shallow 5mm fists, so no axes for him.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Combaticon (PCC)|Combaticons]] — All four drones have top-mounted posts which are accessible in both modes, though because of the APC&#039;s transformation, Mini-Cons attached to it in combined mode will appear to extend from the robot&#039;s knee.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Smolder (PCC)|Smolder]] - Smolder has 5mm fists, and a flip-out hollow 5mm post on his chest.  He has a second hollow post on the roof of his vehicle mode, which in his other modes ends up in an awkward but usable position on the back (robot mode) or front (torso mode) of his right shoulder.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mudslinger (PCC)|Mudslinger]] - Mudslinger has a 5mm post near the back of his vehicle mode, accessible in all three modes... which ends up on the front of his left knee in robot mode, and the &#039;&#039;inside&#039;&#039; of his right knee in torso mode.  Good luck making use of that.  At least he has 5mm fists.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Destructicon (PCC)|Destructicons]] — All four Destructicons have top-mounted posts that remain accessible in limb mode.  The Heavy Hauler&#039;s post can fold away like those of the Rallybots.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] — Oddly enough for the &#039;&#039;PCC&#039;&#039; line, Icepick has no 5mm pegholes at all, with the effect that [[Chainclaw (PCC)|Chainclaw&#039;s]] 5mm weapon mode was omitted from the instructions.  His compatibility consists of a hollow 5mm post on his right shoulder and a fold-out one on his chest, both usable in all three modes.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sledge (PCC)|Sledge]] — Like his wavemates, Sledge is odd: he has shallow wrist holes (this time located &#039;&#039;under&#039;&#039; his forearms) instead of fists, and unlike his fellow two-pack-originated Commanders, he has no flip-out posts at all (maybe Leadfoot stole his?).  Instead he has a single hollow post on his chest that serves all three modes, and another on his shovel.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crankcase (Movie)|Crankcase]] — A redeco of Huffer with the same abilities.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Destron (PCC)|Destrons]] — Redecos of two Aerialbots (Recon Plane and Combat Helicopter) and two Combaticons (Missile Carrier and Armored Car).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Darkstream]] — A redeco of Skyburst, incapable of any interaction with Razorbeam other than wearing him on his back.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Windburn]] — A redeco of Searchlight, retaining his capabilities.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Steamhammer (PCC)|Steamhammer]] — Steamhammer is unusual among five-pack-originated Commanders: his torso mode has a hollow 5mm post on his chest!  This post is basically inaccessible in his other modes, so he has a second one on his roof, which in robot mode is on a block hanging awkwardly from his elbow.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Constructicon (PCC)|Constructicons]] — The Constructicons&#039; posts are all well-placed, with no particular unusual qualities.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skyhammer (PCC)|Skyhammer]] —&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Over-Run (PCC)|Over-Run]] — A redeco of Leadfoot with the same abilities.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Stunticon (PCC)|Stunticons]] — Redecos of two Rallybots (Race Car and Tuner) and two Destructicons (Armored Truck and Armored Junker).&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Undertow (PCC)|Undertow]] — Similar to Sledge, Undertow has one fixed hollow 5mm post, accessible in all modes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transformers (2010)==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toyline]] continued to make widespread use of 5mm posts and holes (though perhaps not as widespread as some previous lines).  [[C joint]]s proliferated as well, leading to a veritable golden age of interchangeable weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Dark of the Moon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ironhide-MechTechWeaponsCombo-5mmPost.JPG|upright=1.66|thumb|Ya feelin&#039; lucky, pardner?]]&lt;br /&gt;
When it came to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039;, the smaller and larger [[size class]]es were respectively split between the [[Cyberverse]] and [[MechTech]] brandings. While C joint compatibility was further established between the two, the 5mm post absolutely &#039;&#039;flourished&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nearly all of the MechTech toys use 5mm posts for their MechTech weapons, with the line also emulating the [[Stealth Force]] [[attack mode]]s that were featured in the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|film]]. As a result, the toys come with a &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; large number of ports, hidden or otherwise, for the weapons to peg into for each figure. The larger figures even have MechTech ports on the &#039;&#039;weapons themselves&#039;&#039;, and the [[packaging]] blurb encourages the user to create &amp;quot;new weapons&amp;quot; by combining then. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This line also introduced a minor innovation: self-covering pegholes. Many MechTech toys have 5mm holes that contain circular plugs on springs. Inserting a weapon handle depresses the plug; when the weapon is removed, the spring pushes it back up to sit flush with surrounding panels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each of the Cyberverse &amp;quot;Action Sets&amp;quot; also contains at least a single, large, removable, spring-loaded (but not always [[missile]]-firing) weapon integrated into the set itself, allowing interchangeability between the weapons of both Cyberverse Action Sets and MechTech figures. The Cyberverse [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]], in particular, features &#039;&#039;six&#039;&#039; weapons (one functional) that are mounted via 5mm posts and holes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Transformers Prime==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ArmsMicronPackin-TakTomSite.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Arms Microns can be combined into some truly ridiculous weapons.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Transformers Prime Toyline]] use 5mm pegs and ports for most of its weapons. [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]&#039;s [[Deployer (WFC)|deployers]] also use 5mm pegs and ports to attach to him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Japanese version of the line takes this to a higher level though, with the &amp;quot;[[Arms Micron]]&amp;quot; play-pattern. All non-[[Cyberverse]] toys in the line have been [[retool]]ed to include several extra 5mm sockets, and include a snap-together Mini-Con partner that transforms into some form of weapon. There are also numerous Arms Microns sold as individuals. The Microns have multiple 5mm posts and sockets, and can be combined to form &amp;quot;Combo Weapons&amp;quot; like the [[Nebula Scythe]], and &amp;quot;Super Combo Weapons&amp;quot; like the [[Star Saber (Arms Micron)|Star Saber]] and the [[Galaxy Launcher]]. While they will occasionally highlight these specific named combinations, the marketing for &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; in Japan &#039;&#039;heavily&#039;&#039; plays up the idea of just going nuts with your own custom Micron combinations.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Construct-Bots==&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;[[Construct-Bots]]&#039;&#039; toyline is primarily based on 5mm pegs for interchangeability of armor and weapons. Even the faction symbols are on 5mm pegs!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Due to [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Brave (franchise)|Brave]]&#039;&#039; series toys sharing many of the same designers from the latter days of G1, a great many of the figures utilize 5mm weaponry pegs. This, of course, can give even the smallest 5mm compatible Transformer the ability to carry 5&amp;quot; chrome swords and gigantic guns of [[Burning justice|Burning Justice]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Other Takara lines have also used the 5mm pegs, including Battle Beasts transforming playsets and the Robolinks toy line.&lt;br /&gt;
*The 5mm post/hole system is also used extensively by companies such as Bandai and Tomy. The Machine Robo Rescue (not to be confused with the trademark-interfering [[Machine Robot Rescue]]) and Zoid Blox lines all utilize it.&lt;br /&gt;
*While [[Wikipedia:Lego|LEGO]] toys do not make use of 5mm posts in and of themselves, they frequently use a style of hollow connector pin that coincidentally fits snugly into 5mm holes. [http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2780 One particularly common part] consists entirely of two such pins back-to-back, making it a workable add-on handle if you want your Mini-Cons to be hand-held.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Gimmicks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Toys]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Rise of the Constructicons</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Raininshadows: Fixing the Bumblebee-with-Decepticon-insignia image.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|series=Anitoon&lt;br /&gt;
|image=TFA Rise Constructicons online.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=Sadly, Soundwave isn&#039;t around to tell them how superior he is to them.&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=22&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Rise of the Constructicons&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 17]], [[2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Stan Berkowitz]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by= [[Ben Jones]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Irineo Maramba]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Shunji Ōga|Shunji Oga]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[The Answer Studio]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Animated cartoon continuity]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Bulkhead befriends a pair of construction vehicles brought to life by AllSpark energy. But the Decepticons have their scanners set on the duo for their latest construction project.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots once again must aid in the restoration of the increasingly disaster-prone city of [[Detroit]]. There is an odd amount of balking, considering they&#039;re a [[space bridge]] repair crew, but Optimus Prime reminds them that a fair amount of the destruction is indeed their fault. These musings are cut short by Bumblebee spotting the &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; party to Detroit&#039;s deterioration, the Decepticons. Blitzwing and Lugnut are scurrying by in a most undignified manner, carrying construction supplies for Megatron. A combined effort by Bumblebee and Ratchet manages to knock the two Decepticons skidplate-over-processing unit, but they still manage to flee with a much smaller portion of the supplies. The Autobots are prevented from giving chase by the cracking of a bridge support, which they then repair. At the end of the day, the Autobots are ready to head home. Bulkhead tells Optimus Prime he&#039;ll catch up, to mask the fact that he&#039;s accidentally adhered his feet to the ground with cement.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RiseoftheConstructicons-Gen2HomageVehicleModes.jpg|left|thumb|Whoa! Some fanboys is sleepin&#039; easy tonight.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, across town, two construction vehicles are seen with [[AllSpark#Animated|AllSpark]] fragments embedded in them. The two fragments activate, and the machines gain sentience. After a brief debate over naming, they discover their new ability to turn into giant robots. This does not faze them in the slightest, and soon they chase off after a highly attractive sports car.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to the use of expired fixative, Bulkhead&#039;s attempts at mixing more cement prove explosive, knocking him out and nearly getting him skewered by iron girders. Thankfully, the newly minted Constructobots spot this and save his skidplate. They then help the lumbering Autobot to do the job &#039;&#039;right&#039;&#039; (making sure he doesn&#039;t leave the fixative lying around, either) and then take him off to a tanker for an [[oil]] break. Though Bulkhead is quite pleased with the oil he is served, he soon voices misgivings as to whether they ought to be doing this. Asked by the Constructobots whether he&#039;s going to act like a little yellow compact, he remembers his friends back at the base and invites his new acquaintances back to meet them. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Rise Constructicons Sari no pigtails.jpg|thumb|Relax, Sari, they&#039;ll have grown back by next week&#039;s episode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At the base, the Autobots are not impressed with the crass pair. Loudly carousing to the point that even Ratchet thinks they&#039;re a bit rude, they soon wake up Sari. Wondering what all the commotion is, the poor girl gets her pigtails amputated by a game of smashed-oil-barrel frisbee. This is the last straw for Optimus Prime, who kicks the two paisanos out on their keisters.&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, Blitzwing and Lugnut are once again hauling heavy construction materials, this time Laurel and Hardy style up a steep hill. Blitzwing&#039;s footing slips, and he is nearly offlined by the heavy trailer that sends him careening towards a wall. Bracing for an impact that never comes, he is startled to find Mixmaster and Scrapper have saved him. Immediately, he asks them who and &#039;&#039;what&#039;&#039; they are. At first, the jovial pair answer that they are Autobots, but as this is met with some static, they quickly amend it to &#039;&#039;Constructobots&#039;&#039;. Blitzwing sees an opportunity in the pair&#039;s brawn, and as police sirens approach, he convinces them to help haul the load. Lugnut objects, worried about Megatron&#039;s reaction. Blitzwing reassures him, &#039;&#039;sotto voce&#039;&#039;, that they will offline the two goombahs immediately after the work is done. Lugnut is all for this plan, and once the goods are delivered, he charges up the [[Punch of Kill Everything]] while Blitzwing distracts the pair. However, Megatron arrives and gives Lugnut an awful case of &#039;&#039;punchus interruptus&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TFA Rise Constructicons punch interruption.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hate to break it to you Lugnut, but nobody around you cares that you&#039;re all right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron invites the Constructobots into the Decepticon inner sanctum, which they would find to be quite commodious if they knew the meaning of the word. Once there, they express how cute [[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Megatron&#039;s pet]] is, and the interstellar warlord shows them the schematics he stole from the Autobots&#039; ship for the building of a space bridge. His hunch turns out to be correct when he finds that the Constructobots display an intuitive knack for grasping construction projects, and they tell him that the supplies he&#039;s been gathering will be insufficient to the task. Megatron grins as they reveal to him that they know exactly what is needed and where to get it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The following morning, Bulkhead goes looking for his wayward friends. He finds them, pursued by [[Sumdac Systems]] [[Police drone|police robots]] after a daring heist of construction supplies. Stepping in and generally making a mess of the pursuers, he asks Mixmaster and Scrapper what they&#039;re up to. After being told that they stole these materials, he becomes irate because he thought they were so helpful before. They tell him they still are, they&#039;re just helping &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; bots. Becoming suspicious, Bulkhead presses them further and finds out they&#039;re working for Blitzwing and Lugnut. The large Autobot tries to convince them that the Decepticons are bad news, but is less than effective. The Constructobots think the Decepticons are just regular fellas and that Megatron is a laugh riot. Bulkhead grows still angrier, saying that Megatron is the worst of the bunch and was only tricking them. This finally clicks in their heads, and they drop what they&#039;re doing—on Bulkhead—and tear off down the road to take up their grievances with Megatron. Covered in girders, Bulkhead is unable to pursue.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Rise Constructicons Megatron what.jpg|thumb|I&#039;m not a heartless mass murderer. I give all my victims their choice of execution method.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon discovering the Constructobots pounding on the steel door of the mine, Megatron is a bit less genial in tolerating their antics. Picking them up by their collars, he slams them against the mountainside and demands to know what they&#039;re doing. They explain that they want a piece of him because Bulkhead told them that Decepticons are the scum of the universe and that he&#039;d tricked them. Megatron softens his demeanor and tells a tragic tale of Autobot oppression and the Decepticons being driven from their homeworld by these cruel tyrants. The Constructobots only understand about every third word of what he says, so he submits it would be a little easier to understand over a barrel of oil. Once inside, Mixmaster and Scrapper are quite impressed by the potency of the oil they&#039;re offered, which Megatron reveals to be his &amp;quot;special blend&amp;quot;. Suitably placated, they listen to his pitch in which he stresses that as Constructobots, they can spend their lives fixing highway bridges, but as Constructi&#039;&#039;cons&#039;&#039;, they can build &#039;&#039;space bridges&#039;&#039; and be the heroes of millions of Cybertronians.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:RiseoftheConstructicons-Megatron&#039;sprivateblend.jpg|left|thumb|So tell me, fellas, Orlando Bloom or Johnny Depp?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at the auto assembly plant, Bulkhead is relaying his latest encounter with the Constructobots to his fellow Autobots. This doesn&#039;t go over well, so he attempts to convince Optimus Prime that his friends were actually &#039;&#039;angry&#039;&#039; at the Decepticons and that there&#039;s nothing to worry about, as afterwards they can lead the Autobots to the Decepticon base. Ratchet, however, worries that they&#039;ll do the exact opposite. Right on cue, Scrapper and Mixmaster arrive. Bulkhead is initially hopeful, as they are still his friends. The two bots agree with him, but business is business, and Megatron has better oil. Thus they say that they won&#039;t fight anyone, so long as they can pick up the fragments of the AllSpark and be on their way. Optimus Prime objects, and the Constructicons announce that they&#039;re sick and tired of the little dipstick and knock him over. A fight ensues, in which the industrial chassis of the Constructicons prove fairly impervious to most of what the Autobots can dish out. Bumblebee is taken hostage and ransomed for the AllSpark fragments. Optimus attempts to stall, but Bulkhead hands them over. As all the Autobots look on in disbelief, he encourages his old friends to have &amp;quot;one for the road.&amp;quot; They partake in the offered oil and depart.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TFA Rise Constructicons explosion.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|Mixmaster and Scrapper after the &amp;quot;All-Night All-You-Can-Eat Jalapeño Buffet.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots give chase, berating Bulkhead for trusting them. The large Autobot, however, states simply that the Constructicons aren&#039;t going &#039;&#039;anywhere&#039;&#039;. His plan is revealed as Mixmaster and Scrapper start to slow down, emitting smoke and having increasing trouble running. Soon, there is an explosion, and the AllSpark fragments&#039; container lands at Bulkhead&#039;s feet. He had tainted the oil with the expired chemicals from his earlier botched repair job. Bulkhead confronts his former friends, but the blast has scrambled their memory. Confused and frightened, they haul tail out of there. The not-so-gentle giant is disappointed, but Optimus reminds him that even if they&#039;ve lost their memories, they still have a choice not to serve Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Isaac Sumdac]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Police drone]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Scrapper bangs his shovel into Mixmaster]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hey, watch where you&#039;re pointing that thing, shovel-head!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Who you calling &amp;quot;shovel-head&amp;quot;, cement-breath?!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: My name ain&#039;t &amp;quot;cement-breath&amp;quot;, okay? It&#039;s...it&#039;s...uh...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Your little name tag says &amp;quot;Mixmaster&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Nah, that&#039;s too long. Just call me &amp;quot;Mix&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: All right, you got it, Mix. And you can call me...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Sees a sign that says &amp;quot;SCRAP&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: ...Scrap.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: All right, that&#039;s too short. How &#039;bout &amp;quot;Scrapper&amp;quot;?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: I like it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The Constructicons come to life and name themselves. They had an easier time than [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|Wreck-Gar]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: So, uh, what do we do now?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Duh, we, like, build things. Alright?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Mixmaster transforms to robot mode]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, Mix? You&#039;re buildin&#039; things out of yourself.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Scrapper does the same]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yo, Scrapper! You&#039;re doing it too!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, we couldn&#039;t do that before, right?.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: What, talk, think, move by ourselves? I don&#039;t think so. We couldn&#039;t do any of that stuff before.&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Do you think that this is happening for, like, a reason?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, yeah.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[A red car speeds by.]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Whoa! Check out the chassis on that one, huh?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: And those tight little tailpipes! Yo, baby, over here!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Yeah, I like it when they play hard to get.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[They transform and speed off.]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The Constructicons contemplate their new-found existence but quickly throw it out the window when [[Side Burn (RID)|red cars]] are concerned.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Hey, those don&#039;t grow back overnight!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039; loses her pigtails.  Of course, they&#039;re back by next episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: You okay, bro?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hothead Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: DO I LOOK OKAY?!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Random Blitzwing&#039;&#039;&#039;: Or do these wing struts make me look fat?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—Blitzwing focuses on the important stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[Lugnut prepares to use his punch]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: Wait!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Lugnut falls back into mine, where his punch backfires]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Lugnut&#039;&#039;&#039;:...I&#039;m okay.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—Lugnut&#039;s life sucks, sometimes, you know?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;You tricked us! You Decepticons are the scum o&#039; the universe!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;...Whaaat? Who told you that?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Our friend Bulkhead.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;And you believed him?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Well, sure, he&#039;s our friend.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;And did your friend tell you how his Autobot kind have oppressed us? Driven us from our rightful home? Oh, they may come across as complete imbeciles, but Autobots are cunning, ruthless, unforgiving.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Okay, like, this is too confusin&#039; for me.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Then why don&#039;t I explain everything over a few barrels of oil?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;[faces light up]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Oil?!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—Seduction of the stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The Autobots&#039; oil tastes like &#039;&#039;water&#039;&#039; next to this stuff!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It&#039;s my private blend.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039; discovers that &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s an oil connoisseur.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Bulkhead&#039;&#039;&#039;: But...I thought we were friends.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: We are friends, Bulky, that&#039;s why we ain&#039;t gonna hurt you, okay? Long as you hand over whatever bits you got of the...th-...what did he call it again?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Uh, SparkAll? AllSpark, AllSpark.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus&#039;&#039;&#039;: Over my offline body!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;: Aghh—you know what? I have had &#039;&#039;enough&#039;&#039; of this dipstick-in-the-mud!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Mixmaster shoves Prime back]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hey! He&#039;s &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; dipstick!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet&#039;&#039;&#039;: And nobody pushes him around!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The Autobots defend the honor of their [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]...and fail miserably.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation or technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bumblebeeanimatedconsigil.JPG|thumb|[[Goldbug (SG)|Who&#039;s bad?]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
* When Ratchet tells Bumblebee to &amp;quot;vamoose&amp;quot; (around 1:30), Bumblebee has a [[Shattered Glass|red Decepticon insignia]].&lt;br /&gt;
* When Bulkhead frees his foot from the cement, his jaw appears out of alignment, then realigns itself. &lt;br /&gt;
* When Bulkhead is jumping at the idea of Mix and Scrapper meeting the Autobots, Scrapper&#039;s left arm clips through his body, then the forearm briefly vanishes before his arm reappears in the correct place.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Megatron explains the Autobots&#039; &amp;quot;cunning&amp;quot; to Mixmaster and Scrapper, the white outline around his insignia is not complete (either that or it&#039;s part of a shadow).&lt;br /&gt;
* When Optimus delivers his &amp;quot;over my offline body&amp;quot; line, his entire left arm appears to be floating ahead of his body.&lt;br /&gt;
* After the Constructicons flee, the road Bulkhead smashed up is in perfect condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron corrupting the Constructicons may also be a nod to the Generation 1 series, in which he did the same thing in &amp;quot;[[The Secret of Omega Supreme (episode)|The Secret of Omega Supreme]]&amp;quot;.  Except, instead of using the [[Robo-Smasher]], this time he gets them [[Microbots|robo-smashed]]...&lt;br /&gt;
* The two surveyors on top of the bridge are decked out in blue jeans, white shirts, tan jackets and yellow [[hard hat]]s and boots, just like a disproportionate amount of humans from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A construction crane which appears in a few scenes early in the episode is colored in the traditional Constructicon green-and-purple ([[Hook (G1)|Maybe a Constructicon in disguise?]]). Purple and green excavation vehicles were previously seen in &amp;quot;[[Nature Calls]]&amp;quot;, and yet the &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Constructicons themselves are yellow and grey, which &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; be an homage to the &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; Constructicon toys.&lt;br /&gt;
* Scrapper and Mixmaster hit on a little red sports car. [[Side Burn (RID)|Sound familiar?]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blitzwing&#039;s complaining about hauling heavy loads recalls [[Long Haul (G1)|another Constructicon member]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Constructicons cheating an Autobot has happened [[The Master Builders (episode)|once before]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Constructicons often hit on cars (which could be the equivalent for them to female &#039;bots...[[Tracks (G1)|or something]]), just like real cartoon construction workers with passing women.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Constructicons beep as they back up.&lt;br /&gt;
* The whole plot seems to be pretty thoroughly cribbed from every after-school special on the dangers of peer pressure ever...except with giant robots, attempted murder, extortion, and a plot to overthrow one interstellar empire and reestablish another.&lt;br /&gt;
* While the &amp;quot;working-class&amp;quot; Constructicons drink their oil straight from the can, the &amp;quot;upper-class&amp;quot; Megatron drinks his oil out of &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:Goblet|goblets]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Mixmaster and Scrapper have a very loose resemblance to [http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario Mario] and [http://www.mariowiki.com/Luigi Luigi] (respectively), mostly in build. Their vaguely Italian-American accents are more native New Yorker than the plumbers&#039; immigrant accents, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*It was revealed at [[BotCon 2008]] that much of Scrapper and Mixmaster&#039;s dialogue was ad-libbed by their respective actors [[Tom Kenny]] and [[Jeff Glen Bennett]].&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode first aired in Dubai, around two weeks before its English-language broadcast premiere in Canada.&lt;br /&gt;
*It seems that in the Animated-verse, yellow eyes represent the neutral position. Good to know there is a Switzerland equivalent on Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Constructicons first start off as Constructobots, a portmanteau of &amp;quot;construction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Autobot&amp;quot;, but later Megatron gives them a new name, formed from &amp;quot;construction&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Decepticon&amp;quot; instead.&lt;br /&gt;
*Even assuming the Constructicons don&#039;t drink anything off-screen, they still consume what looks like half their weight in oil over the course of the episode. Where does it go?&lt;br /&gt;
*On second thought, [[Humanization|don&#039;t think about it]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Bumblebee receives a [[Stock footage|detailed transformation sequence]] for his stingers...which becomes extremely anticlimactic when his attacks just bounce off Lugnut seconds later. Likewise, Prowl commences his attack against Scrapper with a sequence showing him deploying his throwing stars, but he has better success hand-to-hand, after the stars ricochet harmlessly.&lt;br /&gt;
*Assuming oil prices didn&#039;t somehow decrease by the twenty-second century, the &amp;quot;snack&amp;quot; the Constructicons took was worth several hundred dollars or more. Shouldn&#039;t the world be out of oil by then, anyway? Then again, Mixmaster mentions &amp;quot;synthetic junk&amp;quot;, which implies a way of creating artificial oil may have been invented.&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode was adapted in comic book format using screen captures as half of &amp;quot;[[Transformers Animated Volume 10]]&amp;quot;, with &amp;quot;[[A Fistful of Energon]]&amp;quot; making up the other half. It was also adapted in book form as &amp;quot;[[Clash of the Constructicons]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;French&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;L&#039;attaque des constructicons&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;The Attack of the Constructicons&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ???&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;German&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bulkheads neue Freunde&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Bulkhead&#039;s New Friends&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[July 22|22 July]] [[2008]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper to Mixmaster&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (スクラッパーとミックスマスター, &amp;quot;Scrapper and Mixmaster&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
::*For reasons unknown (though probably due to its heavy focus on non-toy characters), this episode never aired in Japan. However, it is included in the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video#Japan|&#039;&#039;Transformers Animated Vol. 6&#039;&#039; DVD]] as episode 22. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Polish&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Narodziny Constructiconów&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Birth of the Constructicons&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ???&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Season Two ([[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video|Paramount]]) — English and Spanish audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Five: Fistful of Energon (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Five: Fistful of Energon (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Volume Fünf: Der Doppelte Starscream (Paramount) — English and German audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2011 — &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; — Vol. 6 (Paramount) — Japanese audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
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