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Talk:Humanization

2021-03-30T02:13:39Z

RodimusPrimeEatsMorChikin: /* Plaster */

===Eating===
: In some fictional depictions, movie megatron devours Sparks. Could this be counted as eating?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:24, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
:: I wouldn't think so. From what I can tell of the descriptions of Megatron eating, he does it in a very animalistic way. We humans have a tendency not to jump on what we want to eat and going in head first in the chest cavity... We usually prefer to use utensils, and eat sitting down at a diner table. It's more like animalizing, if anything, to make him look more vicious and predator-like. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 12:04, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

==Do not put spoilers==
Just because Bumblebee 'crying' was seen in the Revenge of the Fallen trailer doesn't mean you have the right to spoil the movie now.[[Special:Contributions/65.173.90.94|65.173.90.94]] 17:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

==Devastator==
I don't really think his balls are a form of "humanizing." He is more like a wild beast, so it would be more like "animalizing." Animals have balls, too. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:10, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:Really? I was not aware that animals do not engage in the following activities: Sweating, Coughing, Breathing, Spitting, Crying, Eating, Flatulence, Urination, Sleeping, Aging, Sexuality
:
:Nor was I aware that no animals possess: Teeth, tongues, eyeballs, eyelashes, breasts, lips, or hips.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:02, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

::Well sure, but most cases the Transformer is acting human, and those things are there to enhance their human-ness. Devastator lumbers around on all fours, growling and roaring, and without enough sense of modesty to cover his wrecking balls. Beastly. Not "humanizing." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:12, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:::The balls are mentioned is because it simply ..."Hey, Devastator gets a questionable bodyparts". --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:41, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

== Smelling ==

Transformers can hear things and see things. Seeing and hearing isn't humanization, why is smelling. Smelling is just another sense. I would think a sentient robot would be able to smell things. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 07:00, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:What purpose would sense of smell serve for a Transformer? It's admittedly sort of weird to assume that a race of robots would communicate mainly by talking (how about wireless radio communication or something?), but it's easily acceptable, if only for storyline purposes, and the benefits of sight are obvious, but why would a robot, who comes from a <s>completely</s> ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|mainly]]'' technological planet ever need to smell anything? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 07:14, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
::Plenty of reasons. Smell can communicate a lot of things even if you can't immediately see or hear anything. It's basically a form of chemical detection, which I think even robots would find useful. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:24, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:::Well, if TFs can taste, they probably need smell, too. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 09:39, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

== Megatron coughing ==

Which specific episodes of ''Beast Wars'' have Megatron coughing? That bit needs some clarification. (Would do it myself, but I don't know that much about the Beast era.) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:47, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

==Old age==
"In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup's systems are going to shut down because he is too old." - which issue is this a reference to? In "[[Kup's Story!]]" he has a psychological condition ([[combat fatigue]]) but it's not necessarily because of his age is it? And his systems aren't shutting down anyway...unless there's another issue that addresses this? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:17, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

==Breathing==
There was actually a deuterocanonical discussion of the BW TFs breathing on ATT back in the day, I think. Bob or Larry one gave the "it helps ventilate" explanation summarized as "Put some tape over the fan on your computer and see what happens." In trying to find it, I did come across a statement from Larry that the BW cast become "fully organic" in beast mode, so they can be strangled, etc. -hx at work [[Special:Contributions/168.30.245.144|168.30.245.144]] 12:18, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Plaster ==

[[Image:Blacker wounded.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]

I think this image can be qualified as a sort of humanization, but I'm not sure where it should be placed. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:29, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

If you want to figure out where it fits, PLEASE tell us how that is humanization
commented by-RodimusPrimeEatsMorChikin Monday, March 29, 8:12 P.M.

== Facial hair ==

Seeing as there is an article [[Facial hair|dedicated to face fungus]], is the very truncated list of who has face fuzz necessary? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 04:52, 22 January 2012 (EST)

==Eyelids==

I wouldn't find it hard to conclude that Transformers have eyelids for one of the same reasons humans do - to protect their optics from damage to a degree. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 11:03, 31 August 2016 (EDT)

== Clarify, please ==

"Daytrader is very portly, but he insists his "corpulent comrade" Hound is at more risk of carbon monoxide and a slight oil drinking problem than he is of getting killed in battle." There seems to be one or more words missing here. What in the world is "at risk of carbon monoxide" supposed to mean? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:40, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
:To quote the film: "Carbon monoxide—and perhaps a small gasoline drinking problem are gonna kill you long before a bullet, my corpulent comrade." [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 16:42, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
::That's not "at risk of carbon monoxide", that's "at risk of death from carbon monoxide poisoning". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 17:23, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
:::I'm aware of that, I was just bringing up the movie quote to clarify where the misinterpretation would've stemmed from. I would've edited the section myself but I was on my phone before and it locks up pretty bad when editing anything other than talk pages. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:56, 22 March 2021 (EDT)

Talk:Humanization

2021-03-30T02:08:23Z

RodimusPrimeEatsMorChikin: /* Plaster */

===Eating===
: In some fictional depictions, movie megatron devours Sparks. Could this be counted as eating?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:24, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
:: I wouldn't think so. From what I can tell of the descriptions of Megatron eating, he does it in a very animalistic way. We humans have a tendency not to jump on what we want to eat and going in head first in the chest cavity... We usually prefer to use utensils, and eat sitting down at a diner table. It's more like animalizing, if anything, to make him look more vicious and predator-like. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 12:04, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

==Do not put spoilers==
Just because Bumblebee 'crying' was seen in the Revenge of the Fallen trailer doesn't mean you have the right to spoil the movie now.[[Special:Contributions/65.173.90.94|65.173.90.94]] 17:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

==Devastator==
I don't really think his balls are a form of "humanizing." He is more like a wild beast, so it would be more like "animalizing." Animals have balls, too. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:10, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:Really? I was not aware that animals do not engage in the following activities: Sweating, Coughing, Breathing, Spitting, Crying, Eating, Flatulence, Urination, Sleeping, Aging, Sexuality
:
:Nor was I aware that no animals possess: Teeth, tongues, eyeballs, eyelashes, breasts, lips, or hips.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:02, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

::Well sure, but most cases the Transformer is acting human, and those things are there to enhance their human-ness. Devastator lumbers around on all fours, growling and roaring, and without enough sense of modesty to cover his wrecking balls. Beastly. Not "humanizing." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:12, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:::The balls are mentioned is because it simply ..."Hey, Devastator gets a questionable bodyparts". --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:41, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

== Smelling ==

Transformers can hear things and see things. Seeing and hearing isn't humanization, why is smelling. Smelling is just another sense. I would think a sentient robot would be able to smell things. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 07:00, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:What purpose would sense of smell serve for a Transformer? It's admittedly sort of weird to assume that a race of robots would communicate mainly by talking (how about wireless radio communication or something?), but it's easily acceptable, if only for storyline purposes, and the benefits of sight are obvious, but why would a robot, who comes from a <s>completely</s> ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|mainly]]'' technological planet ever need to smell anything? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 07:14, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
::Plenty of reasons. Smell can communicate a lot of things even if you can't immediately see or hear anything. It's basically a form of chemical detection, which I think even robots would find useful. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:24, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:::Well, if TFs can taste, they probably need smell, too. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 09:39, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

== Megatron coughing ==

Which specific episodes of ''Beast Wars'' have Megatron coughing? That bit needs some clarification. (Would do it myself, but I don't know that much about the Beast era.) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:47, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

==Old age==
"In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup's systems are going to shut down because he is too old." - which issue is this a reference to? In "[[Kup's Story!]]" he has a psychological condition ([[combat fatigue]]) but it's not necessarily because of his age is it? And his systems aren't shutting down anyway...unless there's another issue that addresses this? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:17, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

==Breathing==
There was actually a deuterocanonical discussion of the BW TFs breathing on ATT back in the day, I think. Bob or Larry one gave the "it helps ventilate" explanation summarized as "Put some tape over the fan on your computer and see what happens." In trying to find it, I did come across a statement from Larry that the BW cast become "fully organic" in beast mode, so they can be strangled, etc. -hx at work [[Special:Contributions/168.30.245.144|168.30.245.144]] 12:18, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Plaster ==

[[Image:Blacker wounded.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]

I think this image can be qualified as a sort of humanization, but I'm not sure where it should be placed. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:29, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

If you want to figure out where it fits, PLEASE tell us how that is humanization

== Facial hair ==

Seeing as there is an article [[Facial hair|dedicated to face fungus]], is the very truncated list of who has face fuzz necessary? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 04:52, 22 January 2012 (EST)

==Eyelids==

I wouldn't find it hard to conclude that Transformers have eyelids for one of the same reasons humans do - to protect their optics from damage to a degree. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 11:03, 31 August 2016 (EDT)

== Clarify, please ==

"Daytrader is very portly, but he insists his "corpulent comrade" Hound is at more risk of carbon monoxide and a slight oil drinking problem than he is of getting killed in battle." There seems to be one or more words missing here. What in the world is "at risk of carbon monoxide" supposed to mean? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:40, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
:To quote the film: "Carbon monoxide—and perhaps a small gasoline drinking problem are gonna kill you long before a bullet, my corpulent comrade." [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 16:42, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
::That's not "at risk of carbon monoxide", that's "at risk of death from carbon monoxide poisoning". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 17:23, 22 March 2021 (EDT)
:::I'm aware of that, I was just bringing up the movie quote to clarify where the misinterpretation would've stemmed from. I would've edited the section myself but I was on my phone before and it locks up pretty bad when editing anything other than talk pages. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:56, 22 March 2021 (EDT)