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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_many_deaths_of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=652585</id>
		<title>Talk:The many deaths of Optimus Prime</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rubicon: /* TF Prime */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Games?==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m just asking, should the [[Movie]] games be counted? [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 05:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would vote against.  Those are more a statement about how games work than about Optimus Prime.  [[User:JW|JW]] 12:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
So, the [[Transformers The Game]]&#039;s Decepticon campaign doesn&#039;t count? Thanks for the reply, though. [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 00:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Please indent your replies.&lt;br /&gt;
:And, yes, that would be my vote.  It&#039;s the nature of a game, where one can play both sides, that the guys on the other side are gonna die.  It&#039;s not intrinsically relevant to the &amp;quot;Optimus dies&amp;quot; trope.  [[User:JW|JW]] 01:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Megatron&#039;s deaths==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been wondering, since we&#039;ve got this article out, should we make one on the deaths and resurrections of Megatron? Let&#039;s face it: Old Buckethead&#039;s been offed a few times in career as well, often for the same reasons (except maybe the Christ one). Should we document those as well? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m open to a &amp;quot;The many deaths of Megatron&amp;quot; article, sure.  I can think of three or four without trying too hard.  [[User:JW|JW]] 21:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This subject could almost have it&#039;s own category, &amp;quot;The Many Deaths of BLANK.&amp;quot; Also, why is Optimus Primal included on this page? He&#039;s not Optimus Prime. What do people think of him getting his own &amp;quot;The Many Deaths of...&amp;quot; article?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 23:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d much prefer Optimus Primal stay here.  He&#039;s an Optimus, and was the leading character in his show, so I think he best fits here.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for &amp;quot;The many deaths of BLANK&amp;quot;, the thing about Optimus Prime is that a half-dozen &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; Optimuses have &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; died.  Similarly for a handful of Megatrons.  But, in the case of (say) Dirge, there&#039;s only one Dirge who died a buncha times, so we can cover that on his page.  Similarly, the only Jazz who died is the one from the 2007 movie.  Optimus and Megs are the only &#039;&#039;major&#039;&#039; cross-continuity characters who have a tradition of dying.  (That I can think of.)  [[User:JW|JW]] 00:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Does Unicron count?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on how I understand it, I would say no, since Unicron is just one single entity who travels across the multiverse. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about Starscream?  He died in G1 and was exorcised from several hosts, and the Unicron Trilogy Starscream died at least twice, didn&#039;t he? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 06:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Maybe we should have a segment at the end like this-&lt;br /&gt;
While Optimus Prime is not the only one to die and be reborn like this, he has done so by far the most. Other characters who have done this somewhat regularly are Megatron (list of Deaths and Rebirths), Dirge (list of deaths), Starscream (list of deaths and rebirths).[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Death Of Ginrai==&lt;br /&gt;
Now I know he isn&#039;t actually Optimus Prime, and only a [s]Pretender[/s] wannabe, but looking at the episode descriptions for Victory, it looks like God Ginrai goes through the exact same process as every other Prime like character, dying then coming back, with a new [s]toy[/s] body, the only difference here being his new body is not very Prime like at all, and he doesn&#039;t seem to be the real leader at this point. We have Primal here, so surely we can squeeze in Ginrai&#039;s Death too?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nop, he is Jinrai not Optimus Prime. Though the darn RTM dub names him Optimus Prime. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 12:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Not even if we state he is not actually Optimus Prime to avoid confusion? Say...&lt;br /&gt;
:::While he is not an actual Optimus Prime, God Ginrai, a &amp;quot;GodMaster&amp;quot; who looks like Optimus Prime (his toy was PowerMaster Optimus Prime) also goes through a similar Death and Rebirth in the Japan Only series of Transformers Victory. His Reborn form looks [[Victory_Leo|nothing]] like Optimus Prime though.[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 13:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== crocodile ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we mention the time when Optimus was changed into a crocodile?&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Alligatorcon|Alligator]]. And I&#039;d say no, because he wasn&#039;t dead. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SG Megatron ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we mention him? (Seeing as he&#039;s pretty likely to be dead right now.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:09, 20 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The page name is &#039;&#039;The many deaths of &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Um. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 03:07, 21 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:True but SG Megs&#039; death is a reference to the fact that the leader of the good guys dies often. Hence why SG Optimus hasn&#039;t died (and been reborn) yet- because its the job of this universe&#039;s megs. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:27, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There ought to be articles for the many deaths of Megatron and Starscream. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 08:38, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHM ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My memory of AHM is hazy but Optimus is pretty close to death for the first few issues right? He might not actually be dead but I noticed his &#039;&#039;death&#039;&#039; in Escalation was mentioned and seeing as how he doesn&#039;t actually die there either I took the liberty of adding AHM in. If the higher ups disagree could I at least get an explanation before it gets erased please. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:30, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TF Prime ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of &amp;quot;One Shall Rise pt3&amp;quot;, Orion Pax has lost all memory of being Optimus Prime. Does this constitute a death, since Optimus Prime currently does not exist?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Rubicon|Rubicon]] 00:30, 29 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Transformers CyberToy</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-08T00:37:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rubicon: New page: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;TRANSFORMERS CyberToy&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is an iPhone app published by Glu as a tie-in with the Revenge of the Fallen franchise. CyberToy is primarily a touch-puzzle game, where circles appear...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TRANSFORMERS CyberToy&#039;&#039;&#039; is an iPhone app published by Glu as a tie-in with the [[ROTF|Revenge of the Fallen]] franchise. CyberToy is primarily a touch-puzzle game, where circles appear and are manipulated to transform a character from robot to vehicle. An &amp;quot;Action Figure&amp;quot; mode is also available, which is a 3D model of the character that can be panned around and placed in 4 different poses, as well as their vehicle mode. Each character has several &amp;quot;hot spots&amp;quot; that, when tapped cause various things to occur, from deploying and firing weapons, to turning on headlights. [[Tech_Specs|Tech Specs]] for each character are also viewable.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Characters==&lt;br /&gt;
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New characters are added when CyberToy is updated. As of [[Christmas]] 2009, the app includes the following characters: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Autobot]]s&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Decepticon]]s&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* While pulling off surprising [[Show-accuracy]] in vehicle and robot modes (especially for a mobile game), the transformations are odd to say the least, with large parts of the selected mode simply appearing.&lt;br /&gt;
* With the iPhone OS 3.0, Bumblebee can dance to whatever music you have on your iPhone/iPod Touch. Cue [[The Touch]] or [[Dare to Be Stupid]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Video games]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rubicon</name></author>
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		<title>Talk:Transformers G1: Awakening</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-06T22:00:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rubicon: /* iPod Touch Version */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Wow, that artwork is extensively redrawn and completely recolored. Compare: [http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4356/compraizan8.jpg] [http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3074/compawakeningpx7.jpg]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 23:00, 14 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Colon ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TransformersG1Awakening cover.jpg|right|195px]]&lt;br /&gt;
Is it Transformers G1: Awakening or Transformers: G1 Awakening? I can see why the page is at the former, but the cover (right) makes it look like the latter. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 23:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== iPod Touch Version ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should information on the ipod touch version of the game be added to this page or should there be a separate page?&lt;br /&gt;
I have the iPod version, but not the mobile phone version. It seems, from reading this article, that there is a significant differences between the two games. Functionally they seem the same, the differences are character models and such. &lt;br /&gt;
Either way (same page or separate) would it be appropriate for me to add pictures (such as the in-game) character pages from the ipod version?&lt;br /&gt;
(sorry for the awkward-ness of the question, I&#039;m still new to the editing side of the wiki; long-time-reader-first-time-poster)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks in advance.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Rubicon|Rubicon]] 17:00, 6 March 2010 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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