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Before & After

2012-12-29T20:13:49Z

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|title="Before & After"
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|date=[[December 19]], [[2012]]
|coverdate=December 2012
|story by=[[James Roberts]]
|pencils by=[[Alex Milne]] (before) [[Brendan Cahill]] (after)
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'''In the wake of a battle with the Decepticons on the planet Temptoria, Rewind lies at death's door and Chromedome is pushed to the edge.'''

==Synopsis==

''Before... Aboard the scout ship ''[[Leading Light]]'', the rambunctious, fight-hungry 'bots in craft's fore section are lead in a war-chant by [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], and have to be silenced by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] so he can deliver their mission briefing: they are heading for the planet [[Temptoria]], current home to a group of Decepticons they suspect of kidnapping the [[Circle of Light]]. Around the ship, [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] and [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] employ "[[Rung]]ian Re-Experience Therapy", going to their "happy places" to calm themselves before battle; [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]] discuss [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s appointment in the stead of the wounded [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]; [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] compliments [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] on his new leg-guns; and [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] and [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] argue over a promise Rewind has broken. Before that particular argument can get going, Whirl barges into the rear section and calls for Rewind to accompany him on the front lines to take footage.''

''In "[[The Battery]]", the Decepticon base down on Temptoria, [[Blip]] responds to a summons from [[Nautilator]], but finds himself more interested in the fact that the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]] sounds exactly like [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. When Nautilator finally gets him to pay attention to the security monitor, he sees that the Autobots are air-dropping out of the ''Leading Light'' right on top of them! A ferocious battle soon erupts; while Rodimus and Drift squabble over who gets to take on which 'cons, Tailgate and Swerve head off to sneak into the enemy base, though Tailgate delays a moment to marvel at Ultra Magnus's fighting prowess.''

After... The Autobots return to the ''Lost Light'', but the battle is not without victims: twenty-one crew-members have been gravely injured, including "massive contributors to the Autobot cause" [[Spoke]] and [[Lockstock]]... and Rewind. A panicked Chromedome tries to ask Swerve what happened, but discovers the little 'bot has had his face blown off. [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] rushes Rewind to the medibay where his [[spark]] is diagnosed to be rapidly fading. As Rewind's [[Conjunx Endura]], Chromedome is given the option of using First Aid's spark-jumpstarting procedure to save him—an easy choice to make, and with his spark a match for Rewind's rare type, he volunteers for the process himself. Just before they begin, Tailgate bursts in, dragging the wounded [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] behind him, begging for help.

''While the other members of their team handle the fighting, Rewind and Tailgate search The Battery for the Circle of Light, and discover that the Decepticons have captured not them, but the native organic Temptorians, and are somehow converting them into fuel. A bomb is wired to the door of their cell, which Tailgate sets to work disarming while Rewind films; the bomb disposal expert calls on Rewind to hypothesize what procedure he should employ, and validates his decision by carrying it out. Whirl, Cyclonus and Swerve keep the Decepticons at bay just outside... although Swerve does manage to shoot himself in the face when Whirl tosses him [[Brainstorm]]'s newest weapon, the [[Shoomer]].''

The jumpstart procedure complete, Chromedome waits with Tailgate outside the medibay. After Chromedome explains that the little vials left in the bay are symbolic offerings of [[innermost energon]] from the crew for Rewind, Tailgate is prompted to ask how the pair met. A little reluctantly at first, Chromedome relates Rewind's history: he was a member of the Disposable Class in the days of functionism, and was recruited to work as a data receptacle by campaigner [[Dominus Ambus]]. Rewind became friends with his new employer (whose list of achievements prompts Tailgate to take an immediately dislike to him), who was moved to fight for Disposables' rights, and accompanied him on a quest for [[Moonbase One|Luna-1]], only returning to Cybertron after the war had broken out. After some time, Dominus disappeared and Rewind began searching [[Relinquishment Clinic]]s—since repurposed as assisted suicide facilities—in hopes of discovering his friend's fate. It was in such a clinic that he met Chromedome, who was seeking death to escape the war, and together, the pair gave each other something to live for. But Rewind has never given up his search for Dominus—this is the reason for his hoarding of "snuff movies", and why he has broken his promise to Chromedome to stop entering danger zones. Tailgate argues that perhaps Rewind only goes into battle to be beside Chromedome, but then, First Aid emerges with bad news: Chromedome's own weak spark means the process has not worked.

The call goes out for other donors to save Rewind while Chromedome goes to his quarters in a grief-filled haze. As he sits in silence, a voice calls to him through the door... a voice that tells him it has discovered a way to wipe out the Decepticons and stop what happened to Rewind from ever happening again... an answer that lies in [[Overlord (Masterforce)|the basement]]. Suddenly, First Aid calls Chromedome on his comm and summons him to the medibay: Whirl has proven to have a compatible spark and has saved Rewind's life. On the other side of the bay, Tailgate is about to leave some of his innermost energon for Cyclonus when he suddenly awakens and knocks the vial from Tailgate's hand, shattering it. Cyclonus mocks the small 'bot for believing they share a bond, but upon noticing how many offerings have been left for Rewind by the others, while none were left for him, he silently kneels to help Tailgate pick up the pieces of glass.

''After Whirl and Cyclonus finish off the remaining Decepticons, Whirl compliments Cyclonus on his fighting ability, and suggests they become friends and put that whole "death threat" business behind them. Cyclonus is not interested and reiterates his intent to kill Whirl some day, at which point Rewind calls for their aid: Tailgate has triggered a timer on the bomb, but refuses to leave until he can drain the explosives so the blast won't reach the prisoners. Cyclonus seizes his diminutive contemporary and hurls him out of the chamber to safety, only to be trapped inside as Whirl surreptitiously presses the lock button in order to take out his would-be killer. Rewind is trapped inside with Cyclonus, but at the last second, just before the bomb detonates, Cyclonus throws himself in front of the archivist, shielding him.''

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks.) 
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*[[Powerflash]] (1)
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (2)
*[[Dogfight]] (3)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (4)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (5)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (6)
*[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] (7)
*[[Atomizer]] (8)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (9)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (10)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (11)
*[[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] (12)
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] (14)
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*[[Ambulon]] (16)
*[[Xaaron]] (17)
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*[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (18)
*[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] (19)
*[[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]] (20)
*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (21)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (22)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (23)
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (24)
*[[Fizzle]] (27)
*[[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]] (28)
*[[Rollout (G1)|Rollout]] (29)
*[[Dipstick]] (30)
*Little generic's head (33)
*[[Pincher]] (35)
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]]'s fist (38)
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (43)
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (47)
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*[[Blip]] (25)
*[[Nautilator]] (26)
*[[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]] (31)
*[[Rage]] (32)
*[[Bulletbike (G2)|Bulletbike]] (34)
*Sureshot's generic victim (36)
*[[Seawing (G1)|Seawing]] (37)
*[[Hun-Gurrr|Hun-Gar]] (39)
*[[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] (40)
*[[Turbo Master]] (41)
*[[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] (42)
*[[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]] (44)
*[[Snaptrap (G1)|Snap Trap]] (45)
*[[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] (46)

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*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (13)
*''[[Flip Sides (G1)|Flip Sides]]'' (48)
*''[[Rosanna (KP)|Rosanna]]'' (49)
*''[[Dominus Ambus]]'' (50)

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==Quotes==

"Ultra Magnus informs me that running through the ''Lost Light'' shouting 'Who's up for a fight?' doesn't '''technically''' qualify as a 'briefing.'"
:—'''Rodimus'''

"I'm '''Nautilator''', by the way, one of '''Snap Trap''''s crew. I thought you'd want to see this." 
"Woah. Say that again." 
"What?" 
"You sound '''exactly''' like Megatron." 
"Everyone says that, but I really think you should look at the '''monitor'''." 
"'''Ha!''' Brilliant. Is that your actual voice? Say, ''um'', you know—something something '''tyranny.'''"
:—'''Nautilator''' and '''Blot'''

"D'you mind if I film this? If I die, I don't want my last recorded footage to be of Whirl punching himself in the face to prove he's ''''super-unvincible.''''"
:—'''Rewind'''

"The day I snuggle up to a bomb and '''don't''' fear for my life is the day I get '''sloppy'''."
:—'''Tailgate''', eyes flashing with panic as he sets to work.

"Please! I surrender! Don't shoot!" 
"That is un'''canny'''! Has anyone ever—?" 
"Megatron, yes, I know! Just '''don't shoot!'''" 
"Okay, you be Megatron, I'll be Prime. "You who are without mercy, now plead for it?" Wait wait wait. Try again: "You who are without—" Not '''deep''' enough. "You who are—" How can anyone's voice '''be''' that low? Ah, frag it."
:—'''Nautilator''' and '''Whirl''', just before Whirl shoots Nautilator in the head.

"I'll admit I've made no real '''effort''' to understand the '''warped moral code''' by which you live your '''atrocity''' of a life, but I assume you think that by helping me fight a common foe you've atoned for past sins. You're wrong. There's no '''before''' or '''after''' to our 'relationship': I'm still going to kill you. All that changes is the manner of your death, which becomes more elaborate and protracted by the day."
:—'''Cyclonus''', to Whirl

==Notes==
*The bomb Tailgate is studying on Cover A matches the alt modes of [[K-Class]] Decepticons seen in [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]]. This, coupled with a solicitation for the issue that mentioned "a band of rogue Decepticons", led pretty much the entire fandom to the conclusion that the ''Lost Light'' crew would be meeting [[Fulcrum]] and the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]]. Whoops!
*Magnus was seen returning from his reconnaissance mission in [[Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|issue #10]]. Now we know where he went!
* Tailgate notes that, when in the [[Primal Vanguard]], he fought and killed organics. While immediately a bit jarring for such a naive, innocent little guy, it's been established for a while now that the Vanguard were [[Nova Prime]]'s off-world army, and given his [[expansion]] ideals, it shouldn't really come as any surprise that this is what they were up to for all those years.
*Judging from the 'bots present, Tailgate's "happy place" would appear to specifically be the "movie night" he attended in [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]].
*Trailbreaker has added guns to his legs in emulation of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], after drunkenly grumbling about the latter's legs back in [[Interiors|issue #6]].
*The Decepticon base on Temptoria has [[Energon Driller]]s from ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' stationed outside.
*Blip was previously mentioned by Ultra Magnus as a Decepticon who thought he was a [[sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] in [[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|issue #3]]. His slobbering monster alternate mode certainly helps sell his delusion, and explains why Nautilator confuses him with [[Blot (G1)|Blot]], who's also a filthy beast.
*When Blip asks Nautilator to say "something something tyranny", he is evidently trying to recall Megatron's motto: "Peace through tyranny."
*While the Terrorcon leader has had his name spelled quite a few ways across various Transformers stories at this point, "Hun-Gar" is a new one. He was "Hun-Grrr" in his only named IDW appearance before now, in ''[[Spotlight: Sixshot]]''.
*The transition from page 4 to page 5 makes a semantic juxtaposition of the phrases, "It's raining Autobots" and "Autobot down!"
*On page 5, we see Pipes unconscious on the ground, apparently one of those Autobots injured in the fighting. This is the latest incident in his streak of bad luck that began in issue 4 (brought down by plague) and continued in issue 6 (gunned down by Fort Max).
*Chromedome off-handedly mentions Rewind is "allergic" to ultraviolet light, the only known way to illuminate neuro-surgery insertion scars. But hey, that's probably a coincidence.
*If you hadn't ''got'' Chromedome and Rewind's relationship from the rest of the issue, note that "Conjunx"—from "Conjunx Endura", the Transformer term for "significant other"—is Latin for "spouse". Not Roberts's [[Empurata|first use]] of Latin wordplay!
*The footnote regarding the conversion of organics into energon points readers to the deluxe hardback edition of ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]''; specifically, the process was seen in the short story included in that tome, "[[Escape (G1)|Escape]]".
*Tailgate identifies the bomb as a "C-61"; this was the [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] of Tailgate's Generation 1 toy. Further, he recalls the bomb's progenitor, the "C-12S"; "12" was the ID number of [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] toy, which was [[retool]]ed to create Tailgate's.
*The substance propex was previously mentioned in "Shadowplay." There, "propex conduits" were blamed for some explosions.
*In attempting his Optimus Prime impression, as transcribed above, Whirl is, of course, quoting from Prime and Megatron's famous exchange from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.
*The nature of innermost energon is expanded upon after passing mentions in issues [[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|
#3]], [[Rules of Disengagement|#7]] and #8.
*Dominus Ambus was mentioned by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] in ''[[Omega's Conundrum|Spotlight: Orion Pax]]''.
*The disease cybercrosis was previously mentioned by Swerve in the [[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|2012 Annual]].
*At this point, quite a few characters have mentioned seeking the missing [[Moonbase One|Luna-1]], intimating that many searches for it have taken place. We get a little bit of a reason for that with this issue, in that the moon lies at the centre of romanticized legend. We also find out that it's the same thing as the "Seething Moon", something included in a list of non-existent folk legends by Trailbreaker in issue #3.
*A relinquishment clinic was heavily implied to have played a role in Chromedome and Rewind's first meeting back in issue #6; we get the full story here.
*Rewind's "snuff movies" were introduced in issue #6.
*When Tailgate performs the innermost energon ritual, the fluid he exudes is green, rather than the traditional pink of energon seen in all the other offerings. Whether his energon is a different color or he was exuding some other fluid (it ''is'' the exact same green as the propex he drains from the bomb) remains to be seen.

===Crew manifest===

*21 crew members are seriously injured, but with no fatalities as of yet.
*5 deaths, 5 new arrivals (plus 20 or so Faders) since the launch.

===Errors===

*Temptoria's capital is spelled differently the two times it's mentioned: "Sensensica" (page 2, panel 2) and "Sensenica" (page 4, panel 1).

===Covers (3)===
*'''Cover A:''' Tailgate looks over a Decepticon bomb, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]
*'''Cover B:''' Ultra Magnus and Rodimus under fire, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
*'''Cover RI:''' The assembled crew of the ''Lost Light'' by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]], in homage to the cover of the [[Fab Four|Beatles]] album, ''[[Wikipedia:Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band|Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band]]''. Part of a theme month along with [[City on Fire|''Robots in Disguise'' #12]], which also features an incentive cover based on a famous album.

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Before & After

2012-12-28T21:55:13Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Quotes */

User:Rustyscraplet

2012-12-11T11:33:18Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{quote|Just Get to the Point.|"This is my way of saying I am not interested. And you know that."|}}

A ''girl'' Journalist, and Transformers fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And loves robots better than humans. Touché.
:Oh, and she's just like [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Prowl_%28G1%29 that Prick one]. Get used to it.

On TFWiki, she fills up skipped or ''slightly misunderstood'' parts in comics' content.

[http://sg-alexis.livejournal.com/21439.html On-board the Hungarian TF-Wiki]

Talk:Shadowzone (episode)

2012-01-01T22:28:13Z

Rustyscraplet:

Should Optimus blasting off Starscreams arm be considered a reference to ROTF? --[[User:Rxlthunder|Rxlthunder]] 08:16, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
:Only if Optimus ripped off the arm and beat Starscream with it. Otherwise, no. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:58, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say no, parts getting blasted off is pretty standard for robot battle scenes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:01, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Did Megatron steal the plans for the GroundBridge while in Bumblebee's body or was the technology already known to the Decepticons? {{unsigned|95.172.196.153}}
:It's not mentioned in the episode. It seems unlikely that they'd have a GroundBridge up and running in the short time since Megatron was resurrected. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:19, 16 May 2011 (EDT)
::Before this episode I didn't think the Decepticons had a GroundBridge. Maybe because their base isn't, you know, on the ground. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:37, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

Starscream loses the same arm (right) wich had also happened to Screamer in Revenge of the Fallen. Coincidence? - [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 23:00, 1 Jan 2012 (EDT)
:Already discussed and rejected because 1)robots losing body parts is fairly standard and 2)Screamer only has two arms, there's a 50% probability of it being the same arm lost this time by pure chance. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:10, 1 January 2012 (EST)
::Understood. - [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 23:28, 1 Jan 2012 (EDT)
== OPTIMUS SMILING?! ==

At what time in the episode does Optimus Smile?
:When he says they are glad the humans are safe.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 23:23, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::Optimus actually smiles quite a bit in this show. Dunno if the fanfare is that necessary. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:36, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

== Universal Stream Factor ==

I'm confused. If the Shadow Zone is a alternate dimension, how exactly does it fit into the universal stream factor? It's like the negative universe from G1. Besides, when Cliffjumper went too the SG universe, he didn't see his universe.
:Uh, it's not a universe. It's a dimension within Aligned universe 1010.26 Alpha. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:24, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
: Sorry, I just don't understand that kind of stuff. I mean, ever since Transtech came around, it just changed my viewpoint.
Still, aren't dimmensions still considered universal streams? {{[[Special:Contributions/184.56.27.61|184.56.27.61]] 01:04, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

Talk:Shadowzone (episode)

2012-01-01T22:03:47Z

Rustyscraplet:

Should Optimus blasting off Starscreams arm be considered a reference to ROTF? --[[User:Rxlthunder|Rxlthunder]] 08:16, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
:Only if Optimus ripped off the arm and beat Starscream with it. Otherwise, no. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:58, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say no, parts getting blasted off is pretty standard for robot battle scenes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:01, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Did Megatron steal the plans for the GroundBridge while in Bumblebee's body or was the technology already known to the Decepticons? {{unsigned|95.172.196.153}}
:It's not mentioned in the episode. It seems unlikely that they'd have a GroundBridge up and running in the short time since Megatron was resurrected. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:19, 16 May 2011 (EDT)
::Before this episode I didn't think the Decepticons had a GroundBridge. Maybe because their base isn't, you know, on the ground. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:37, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

Starscream loses the same arm (right) wich had also happened to Screamer in Revenge of the Fallen. Coincidence? - [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 23:00, 1 Jan 2012 (EDT)

== OPTIMUS SMILING?! ==

At what time in the episode does Optimus Smile?
:When he says they are glad the humans are safe.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 23:23, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::Optimus actually smiles quite a bit in this show. Dunno if the fanfare is that necessary. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:36, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

== Universal Stream Factor ==

I'm confused. If the Shadow Zone is a alternate dimension, how exactly does it fit into the universal stream factor? It's like the negative universe from G1. Besides, when Cliffjumper went too the SG universe, he didn't see his universe.
:Uh, it's not a universe. It's a dimension within Aligned universe 1010.26 Alpha. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:24, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
: Sorry, I just don't understand that kind of stuff. I mean, ever since Transtech came around, it just changed my viewpoint.
Still, aren't dimmensions still considered universal streams? {{[[Special:Contributions/184.56.27.61|184.56.27.61]] 01:04, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

Hound (G1)

2011-08-04T02:42:38Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Foreign names */ - Hungarian version means Exactly "Hound"

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{{disambig3|Hound}}
:''Hound is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:G1 Hound reissueart1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Rejected as kid appeal character. Why? Not [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|yellow]] enough.]]
'''Hound''' wishes he were [[human]]. The dark, barren metalscapes of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] no longer interest him. Now that Hound has been shipwrecked on [[Earth]], he considers this planet his home. He sees humankind as beautiful and wishes he could interact with their ecosphere the same way they do, to feel what they feel and to see what they see.

He treasures his job as an Autobot scout, making good use of his ability to project [[hologram]]s for added disguise. He uses this opportunity to explore the breathtaking caverns and mountainous expanses that Earth provides. He's a meek, benevolent soul, even compared to his fellow Autobots. He gets along with the [[Cliffjumper (G1)|more blood-thirsty of their ranks]] but not the [[Blades (G1)|''most'' blood-thirsty of their ranks]].

His nicknames are '''Sarge''', '''Nose''', and '''Sniffer'''.<ref>''[[The Transformers Comic Magazine]]''</ref>

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Houndfirstappearance.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Hi, I'm friendly!]]
Hound was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] Upon reviving in 1984, Hound marveled at this world's strange and diverse lifeforms, and couldn't wait to explore its surface—not for business, but for pleasure. However, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] cautioned him, reminding Hound that their primary purpose was to spare Earth's inhabitants from the onslaught of the Decepticons. Hound was chosen as part of the first field expedition into the world under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s command, and his new surroundings overwhelmed him. His sensors alerted them to a drive-in movie theatre, a serene scene that quickly turned into a battle when the Decepticons arrived. Hound was able to divert [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], though Hound worried more about [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s whereabouts, as the small scout had gone missing. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

[[Image:Tellhimwhodefeatedyouthisday.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Ravage, who defeated you this day?!" "Uh, the guy that Jazz keeps getting colored as, I think?"]]
Fortunately, Bumblebee was later able to radio his location to Hound, who informed the other Autobots. Better still, he had located a [[human]] who could convert Earth fuel into a substance they could use! Hound and the others traveled to the home (and auto repair shop) of [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], where they were, of course, attacked again by the Decepticons! [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] apologized for leaping in front of Hound to get closer to their enemies, but Hound was fine with it so long as Decepticons were destroyed one way or the other. Unfortunately, the Decepticons left the battle with their prize, Sparkplug Witwicky, in the hopes that the human could convert fuel for them instead! {{storylink|Power Play!}}

The battle left Hound and Sideswipe low on fuel, so Optimus Prime offered to carry the two home inside his trailer. After Hound had been attended to, he and the other Autobots met with the amazing [[Spider-Man]], who offered to help them rescue Sparkplug from the Decepticons' [[Fortress Sinister|cliffside headquarters]]. Hound drove Spider-Man past the Earth military blockade himself with Spider-Man posing as his driver, but Hound stayed behind to help draw the Decepticons' fire while Spider-Man and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] slipped into the headquarters. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

''Following this, he was present when the Autobots countered the Decepticons when the latter attacked the [[Sherman Dam]], hoping to steal its energy. At Prime's order, Hound submerged into the water to locate the source of the dam's problems and found [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. After a fight between the two, Hound was blasted out of the water by Rumble's piledrivers. The sight of this distracted Optimus Prime during his fight with [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] atop the dam, and Megatron was able to use this distraction to knock Prime from the dam. {{storylink|Decepticon Dam-Busters!}}''

When Hound was next seen, he was hanging from the ceiling of the Ark with the other Autobots, the work of the evil Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], who had returned and taken leadership of the Decepticons for himself. [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] was shocked to discover this terrible development, and the human returned to tell [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], the sole Autobot survivor. {{storylink|The New Order}} Ratchet was eventually able to restore the Ark to the Autobots after outwitting Megatron, and Hound and the others were repaired. However, Optimus Prime's head was still in the hands of the Decepticons. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}}

Hound's next mission involved stopping [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] from sending a message to the Decepticons back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], but matters were complicated when they faced the newly-created [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. Their merging into the mighty [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] did not help things, either, but thanks to help from [[Bomber Bill]], a human trucker, the communications array was destroyed before the entire message could be sent. {{storylink|The Next Best Thing to Being There!}}

[[Image:Houndholomap.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Google Maps later rendered Hound obsolete.]]
The conversations of Shockwave's Decepticons, stationed at [[Blackrock Aerospace Assembly Plant Number One]], were being listened in on by Hound and the other Autobots, and so they overheard Shockwave's plans to dump Prime's head into a nearby swamp now that he was no longer useful to them. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}} Hound led a long Autobot convoy to the swamp, and they were able to form a human-chain to rescue the head from sinking to the bottom of it, but when the head was placed on Optimus Prime's body, it attacked them. This was not the real head of Optimus Prime, but an imposter head controlled by Shockwave! A group of Decepticons led by Soundwave joined the imposter Optimus Prime in destroying them, but during the course of battle the real head was restored and the Decepticons defeated. Hound was one of the few Autobots left standing. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}

[[Image:Houndravagecrisisofcommand.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Noticing a pattern?]]
''Now that Prime and the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] had been returned to them, Hound was one of the Autobots who opposed using the Matrix to create super-warriors. Soon after, he assisted [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] in capturing [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], though Ravage's capture was part of the Decepticon's plan. Once Ravage learned what he wanted to know, he escaped. {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}}''

Hound was next seen being reconstructed, along with a handful of other Autobots. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}

''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], Cyclonus and Scourge made their time-jump to 1986, Optimus Prime, Ratchet and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] were lost in [[Limbo]]. Suspecting Decepticon involvement, Hound and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] were sent to spy on their foes. [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] discovered the spying Autobots and attacked, taking out Jazz and beating Hound within an inch of his life while expositing about his [[Life Spark|past self]]. Only the arrival of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] saved Hound.''

[[Image:Target2006-houndandmagnus.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Well, someone had the scale guide, at least.]]
''After getting a lift back to the Ark from Magnus, Hound tried several times to get Ultra Magnus to assist the Autobots against Galvatron; he also defended their strategy of allying with Megatron. Hound was part of the raiding party which captured Scourgetook a critical view of [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'s tactics, especially as the Autobots were beaten again and again. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}''

[[Image:Newyorkunderbase.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He should really stick to fighting Ravage.]]
''In the wake of Galvatron's trip from the future, Optimus Prime faked his death to teach the Autobots how to survive without him. Hound was one of the Autobots who attended his funeral, moments before Optimus Prime reappeared. {{storylink|Resurrection!}}''

When [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fought on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]] for leadership of the Autobots, Hound was among the dozens who disembarked from the Ark to be spectators. {{storylink|Totaled!|Totaled!}}

Some time after, he and the other Autobots answered a distress call from Buster Witwicky, but when they arrived to rescue him, they were attacked by both Earth-based Decepticon armies. Hound was pounced upon by [[Weirdwolf]].

The battle was discovered to be a ruse by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] to cover his efforts to claim the powers of the [[Underbase]]. Hound was subsequently part of a team sent to confront Starscream in [[New York City]]. Unfortunately, Hound and several of his peers ended up slaughtered by Starscream on the Brooklyn Bridge. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}
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====Generation 2====
[[Image:G2houndprimalfear.jpg|left|250px|thumb|"This is my O Face!!"]]
Hound joined [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]]'s unit in leaving Cybertron to find new conflicts and fought against the [[Outpost B-67 exo-structuring party|technoforming fleets]] of the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]]. He was disgusted by the bloodlust shown by [[Blades (G1)|Blades]], who berated Hound for being a liability. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Following this, he was the only Autobot not infected by the [[Shadow parasite|psychic parasites]] of the [[K'tord Nebula]], due to a blow to the head that knocked him off-line. After Prime and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] managed to temporarily cease fighting long enough to deal with the parasites, Hound scanned the Transformers for any remnants in their systems. {{storylink|Primal Fear!}}

As one of the more level-headed Autobots, Hound did not participate in Grimlock's ill-advised strike on the Liege Centuro and his fleet. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}} Still, he knew good sense when he heard it, even from Grimlock, and when Prime thought it was a good idea for him to go meet the Decepticons alone, Hound arrived with Grimlock and a rescue battalion just in time to keep Megatron from destroying his old nemesis. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} Later, Hound also got involved in protecting the planet [[Ethos]] from genocide. {{storylink|Escalation!}}
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ken Sansom]] (English), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese), [[Vladimiro Conti]] (Italian, second dub), [[Javier Pontón]] (Latin American)

[[Image:MTMTE1 Hound and Cliffjumper roll out.jpg|thumb|right|240px|Those seats looks surprisingly comfortable for a jeep.]]
Hound was one of the original Autobots aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crash-landed on Earth four million years ago. When awakened in 1984, he was reformatted to have a terrestrial alt-mode, that of a Mitsubishi military jeep.

As the Autobots got their bearings on this strange, new planet, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] dispatched Hound on a recon mission to find the [[Decepticon]]s. The impetuous [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] tagged along uninvited, itching to start a fight, and took a pot-shot at [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] once Hound sniffed out the Decepticon base. Cliffjumper missed, and the Decepticons gave chase. [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] pursued the two Autobot eavesdroppers, and Hound took the brunt of the assault, getting blasted by Laserbeak's cannons. Hound spun out of control on the winding mountain roads and crashed into a ravine.

Cliffjumper returned with help: the Autobot medic, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. Hound was too injured even to transform, so the crane truck [[Hauler]] had to lift him out of the gulch so he could be dragged back to the Ark for repairs. Despite the mishap, Hound bore no ill will against Cliffjumper. The scout had heard enough about Megatron's plans to plunder the Earth's resources that Optimus immediately launched a mission to stop the Decepticons. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

[[Image:MTMTE2 Hound resuscitates Spike.jpg|thumb|left|220px|... Do we even need a caption here?]]
Later, when the [[Autobot]]s counter-attacked the Decepticon siege of [[Sherman Dam]], Hound got into an underwater fight with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. The pint-sized Decepticon managed to trap Hound under a pile of boulders so that he couldn't move. Then [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] jumped in and removed the boulders, thus freeing Hound to resurface and rejoin his teammates. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

After they came back from the [[ruby crystal mines of Burma]], Hound and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] came up with a plan to fool the Decepticons: They would create a hologram of a rocket fuel base. The Decepticons would go there to use the resources to create energon cubes, at which point the trap could be sprung. Optimus Prime agreed, and the then-imprisoned [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was allowed to escape with the false information. However, Megatron outsmarted the Autobots, went to the real rocket fuel base and used its resources. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

After [[Chip Chase]] was kidnapped by the Decepticons, who were after the antimatter formula, Hound and Mirage used their respective powers to sneak into the antimatter laboratory in order to mount a rescue. While Hound distracted Megatron with an army of holographic duplicates, [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and Spike swooped in to save the prisoner, and the Autobots beat a hasty retreat through a fourth-floor window. Megatron had already obtained the formula, and he attacked Autobot Headquarters. When [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] unleashed the power of the antimatter gun in his direction, Hound ended up buried up to his waist in rubble. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

[[Image:FireintheSky Hound's huge hand.jpg|thumb|right|260px|"That picture up there was completely innocent in context, I swear! Please put the mace down!"]]
He again defended the base when Optimus Prime was incapacitated and required a new [[Cosmitron]]. Though the fight didn't got well for the Autobots, they held off the Decepticons long enough for Optimus to be repaired. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}} After enjoying a snowball fight in mid-summer, the Autobot traced the source of the strange temperature drops to the [[Arctic]]. Hound was one of the Autobots who went there to investigate and immediately encountered a new Decepticon, [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]]. When Spike and [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] became trapped on the ice, Hound was unable to rescue them and watched helplessly as they were carried off by Skyfire. As the Autobots followed, Hound, [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], Ratchet and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] were separated from the others and subsequently captured by the Decepticons. Skyfire was ordered to eliminate the foursome as a test of loyalty, but refused and was blasted by Starscream. Hound employed his holograms to allow the four Autobots to avoid a similar fate. Once they'd repaired Skyfire, the jet happily defected, but ended up buried in ice following the defeat of Megatron's plan. The Autobots held a memorial for him. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

[[Image:SOSDinobot Hound radios in.jpg|thumb|left|230px|"Yes, hello, I'm looking for a Mrs Hugginkiss, first name Amanda..."]]
After the Autobots discovered fossilized dinosaur bones inside a cavern in the [[Mount St. Hilary|Autobot volcano]], Hound was accompanied Spike on a trip to the museum, a new Earth experience that excited him. He scanned three dinosaur skeletons with his hologram gun, and the resulting holographic simulation inspired [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and Ratchet to build the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. However, [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] severely damaged [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] when the exceptionally dim-witted Dinobots went on a rampage, forcing Hound and Spike to scout for Decepticon activity while the Autobot base computer was being repaired. Hound didn't mind the extra work, as it allowed him to do sightseeing of the surrounding Earth landscape. He managed to detect Decepticon activity at the [[Great Falls]] hydroelectric power facility and relayed the information to Optimus Prime. Arriving at the falls, he was extremely impressed with the view. When no Decepticons were in immediate view, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] jokingly wondered about the occupancy of [[glitch mouse|glitch mice]] in Hound's database, to the amusement of no one. Hound was among the Autobots subsequently captured by the Decepticons, but was freed when Wheeljack and the Dinobots arrived to save the day. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

[[Image:UltimateDoom2 Bumblebee in Hound.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Carpooling taken to the next level.]]
Hound was on the Autobot squad, along with the Dinobots, which was on-hand when [[Meteorini Chipperoni|a meteor]] crashed to Earth in a ghost town. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}} After Sparkplug was abducted by Laserbeak, Hound took part in a diversionary attack on the Decepticon base while a small team went in and rescued Sparkplug. Later, he and the rest of the Autobots attempted to stop Megatron from activating a giant [[space bridge]]. They failed, and Cybertron was drawn into Earth's orbit. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} During the retreat back to Headquarters, Hound and Bluestreak had to save Spike from Laserbeak. Hound used his sensors to locate Bumblebee, who'd fallen into a crevasse, so that [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] could haul the diminutive Autobot out. As he was out of gas, Bumblebee had to ride back to Headquarters in Hound. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}}

Hound took part in the cleanup efforts after Cybertron was ejected from Earth's orbit. After the Decepticons were spotted on the move, the Autobots gave chase. After a brief stop in a quicksand trap, they caught up with the Decepticons outside [[Doctor Arkeville]]'s secret laboratory and prevented the explosion of the [[Exponential Generator]]. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}} Hound turned out to cheer on Optimus Prime during the Autobot leader's one-on-one fight against Megatron. To the shock of all of the Autobots, Prime lost, and they were legally obligated to vacate the planet. Once they returned to base, they discovered that Megatron had cheated, and the results of the fight were void. Faced with the Decepticon's huge new warrior, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], Hound projected an [[Halonix Maximus|even bigger Autobot]], distracting the combiner long enough for Optimus defeat him. The Autobots subsequently blasted the Decepticons into a crevasse filled with lava. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

After Spike's mind was transferred into a [[Autobot X|robot body]], the process affected the boy and Megatron turned him against the Autobots. Hound rolled out to bring Spike back to Autobot Headquarters and stood by his bedside as his mind was transferred back. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} Hound was later on another mission to a gold mine. The mission didn't go well, resulting in the Autobots being battered by energised boulders, and Gears being kidnapped. When Megatron activated his [[Solar Needle]], the Autobots were obliged to travel to [[Africa]] to shut down the operation and rescue Gears. They did briefly consider leaving him with his temporary affable personality, but were overruled by Gears himself. {{storylink|Changing Gears}}

[[Image:CityofSteel Hound tracking.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Illusion, Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money...or candy.]]
The Autobots visited [[New York City]] when the Decepticons began replacing buildings with Cybertronian architecture. Optimus Prime was captured by the Decepticons, and Hound, along with Spike, Bumblebee, Ratchet and Mirage, entered the sewer system in an attempt to rescue their leader. After tangling with an [[Alligatorcon]], Hound became confused by the fact that his sensors detected Prime ''behind'' them. His sensors were correct—the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s had built the Alligatorcon out of Prime's parts. Hound, Mirage and Ratchet ended up wrangling it so Optimus could be rebuilt. During the battle for New York, Hound found himself battling [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] in a subway with Bluestreak, then consoling Wheeljack after the scientist's remote-controlled helicopters failed to stop Devastator. {{storylink|City of Steel}}

[[Image:AttackAutobots Hound crushes dumpster.jpg|thumb|right|200px|OM NOM NOM]]
When Megatron used a [[personality destabilizer device]] on the Autobot [[recharging chamber]], Hound was one of the Autobots turned to evil. He and Ratchet went after [[Harding|Doctor Harding]], who had plans for a new solar satellite. When she escaped them at the lab by jumping out of a window, Hound pursued her into an alleyway, where she jumped into one of the dumpsters. As he picked up the dumpster she was in, Jazz arrived and distracted him long enough for Sparkplug to use an [[attitude exchanger]] to restore Hound's good nature. The Autobots set about finding the rest of their number, and Hound struck on the idea of firing the exchangers from their guns, enabling them to restore the rest of the Autobots. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}

During a test of Wheeljack's latest invention, the [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer|Immobilizer]], Hound projected a hologram of Laserbeak, only for Ironhide to mistake it for the real thing. The Autobots dove for cover as he fired, and the only casualty was the Immobilizer itself. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}} Hound took part in an Autobot charity event, during which the Decepticons took the opportunity to test out their new [[Transfixatron]]. Stuck in vehicle mode, the Autobots were taken to a ghost town, but Hound was able to use his holographic gun to send a message back to base. Though his gun was blasted by [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]], the message had been received, and the Autobots back at base came to the rescue with an [[anti-transfixation grenade]]. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

[[Image:Houndfootball.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Another potentially humorous image ruined by some pedant calculating that the football has to be about ten feet long.]]
Hound bravely participated in a game of football against the Dinobots, resulting in him coming off second best when he ran into [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] while heading for a touchdown. Investigating strange energy readings, he and the other Autobots encountered the [[Sub-Atlantica]]ns and Decepticons beneath the sea. The Autobots raced for Washington, which their combined enemies intended to conquer. Hound warned the other Autobots to be careful that they didn't damage any of the historical structures there as they fought, but all of the Autobots were overcome by [[Nergill]]'s [[magnetic dysfunction ray]]. It wasn't until the Dinobots arrived and the weapon was destroyed that the Autobots were freed from its power. The Autobots assaulted Sub-Atlantica, and the city was destroyed by Nergill's own hand. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}

While the bulk of the Autobot forces went to investigate the reprogramming of [[TORQ III]] at [[Quantum Laboratories]], Hound, Spike and Skyfire were left on their own to check out why the world's fleet of [[oil tanker]]s were converging on a spot near the Decepticon base. They found the Decepticons had built an oil platform, and they used one of the tankers to sneak aboard, only to be almost immediately captured. Spike's deft use of an electromagnet broke the trio out, and Hound was able to destroy the shield generator protecting the platform. The main Autobot force stormed the base, and Prime helped the trio get clear before it was destroyed. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}}

After [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]], a human-invented robot, was reprogrammed by the Decepticons and stole the [[World Energy Chip]] from Autobot Headquarters, the Autobots gave chase. Hound used his infrared sensors to track her down, but it was only after a prolonged fight that they got the chip back and Nightbird was disabled. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}} On one strange occasion when the Autobots found that they had two Optimus Primes, Hound accompanied the Autobot forces to a crevasse from which strange energy readings were emanating, and he ended up fighting Starscream briefly. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}

[[Image:InsecticonSyndrome Houndlifting.jpg|right|260px|thumb|To beat this guy, you need speed. You don't have it. You've got arthritis in your neck and calcium deposits on most o' yer joints, so sparring is out. So what we're gonna be calling on is good old blunt force trauma—heavy duty power punches that're gonna rattle his ancestors. Yeah!!! Let's start buildin' some Hurtin' Bombs.]]
Hound, [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] and Bumblebee investigated reports of chewed-up trees and quickly realised that the Insecticons were behind it. After tracking down their quarry, the three Autobots, along with Spike and [[Jeff (ranger)|Ranger Jeff]], were chased off a cliff by a fallen tree trunk. They were able to take shelter on a small ledge, and Hound used a hologram to fool the Insecticons into thinking the Autobots had been destroyed. After radioing base to warn them that the Insecticons and their Decepticon allies intended to attack the [[Nova Power Plant]], the trio headed to the target themselves, but were too late to prevent the Insecticons from devouring the [[Nova Power Core]]. Hound and Jazz ended up pulling Wheeljack out of the wreckage of a pylon. The Autobots tried to head off a subsequent attack on [[Iron Mountain]], but the power-saturated Insecticons blasted them. Hound ended up under [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], who was under a ton of rock. He then ended up at ground zero as the Insecticons were about to explode, but swift work by the Autobots prevented too much of a disaster. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}}

Hound was witness to another of the Dinobots' rampages at headquarters, after which they were sent to the newly discovered [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]] to work on their technique. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} Responding to strange energy readings in the city, Hound used his sensors to locate Bumblebee and Spike under some rubble, before taking part in the effort to round up a bunch of barbarians on mammoths who'd wandered through a time warp. He and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] kept the warp open long enough for the barbarians to be returned through it. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

[[Image:MMP2 Hound scans ahead.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"My scans show we are...''in a ship!'']]
The Autobots were taking part in an [[Autobot Day]] parade to celebrate their accomplishments, when a tape was shown which incriminated them all for energy theft. Hound and the others were put on trial, swiftly found guilty, and ordered to leave the planet. With little other choice but to obey the law, they boarded a spacecraft supplied by [[Shawn Berger]]. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} When Cliffjumper proved unable to alter the ship's flight path, Hound pinpointed their destination: the [[Sun]]! Unable to prevent the ship's destruction, they used one of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s force fields to link to [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and were able to return to Earth. There, Megatron's frame-up had already been exposed, and the Autobots brought the full might of their forces down on the enemy. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

[[Image:DesertionDinobots1 Hound projecting hologram.jpg|thumb|right|240px]]
Hound attended a demonstration of the [[Ultra Plane]], only for the experimental drone craft to be destroyed by the Decepticons. He took part in the defense of the lab behind the Ultra Plane, using one of his holograms to trick Starscream and Soundwave into believing that Megatron had retreated. A short while later, he and the rest of the Autobots were afflicted by [[Cybertonium]] depletion and were unable to function. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} Luckily, Spike, [[Carly]] and the Dinobots were able to retrieve some more from Cybertron. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}} Hound rolled out to prevent the theft of the [[Voltronic Galaxer]] and again later to help the humans when Megatron used the device to block radio waves planet-wide. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}}

[[Image:Masquerade Hound.jpg|thumb|left|200px|The lack of engine detailing makes poor Hound sad.]]
He was part of a second wave of Autobots who went up against [[electrum]]-coated Decepticons. They didn't have much better luck than the first wave. Once they found the pool of electrum that the Decepticons had been utilising, the Autobots were able to even the odds. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} Hound rolled out to rescue [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] from a Decepticon trap, and he was presumably subsequently struck down by the same [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] that afflicted the other Autobots. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust}} After the Autobots captured the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who were out on a mission for Megatron, Hound probed their memory banks but only came up with a map to a crater. A number of the Autobots, including Optimus, disguised themselves as the Decepticon team, but after they'd gone to uncover Megatron's plan, the real Stunticons broke out of their cells. Hound came to see what all the noise was, and was blasted by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] as the combiner departed. The damaged Autobots recovered in time to provide much-needed reinforcement to Prime's team. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

In the year 2005, Hound was stationed at [[Autobot City]] on Earth. Shortly before [[Battle of Autobot City|the Decepticon attack]], Hound was part of [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]'s detail, placing a roadblock on the trail to Lookout Mountain. During the battle, he managed to get to the shuttle landing pad as Optimus Prime began his counterattack on the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{note|While Sunstreaker is clearly shown to be arriving on Optimus Prime's shuttle despite having earlier appeared at Kup's roadblock (creating a continuity error), it is less clear with Hound, as he is merely shown outside of Prime's landed shuttle. However, the way he is drawn heavily implies that he disembarked from the shuttle.}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' story pages====
One day, Hound decided to participate in a friendly race amongst the Autobots, though his Jeep mode wasn't expected to bring him a victory against the numerous race and sports cars he was up against. Little did anyone know, [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] was aware of the race and set a trap within a narrow canyon. Once inside, all the racecars became trapped and were unable to escape due to their poor traction over the rough terrain. Soundwave began firing upon them and his victory seemed assured. However, Hound's rough, tough and all-around manly Jeep mode proved the ''real'' victor, as it allowed the Autobot to traverse the rugged landscape, transform and punch Soundwave so hard it shattered his chest.

Eat it, you sissy racecars. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (story page)|Anime Theater 2: Sic 'em, Hound!}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====
When [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] attacked [[Ark (G1)|Autobot headquarters]] in [[Arizona]] with nearly the entire Decepticon army, Hound responded with the rest of the Autobots in defense. They eventually won the day, though the attack was little more than a diversion while [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] performed ''evil'' in Japan. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}}

[[Image:4WheeldriveBrigade1.jpg|thumb|200px|LOCK AND LOAD! MAXIMUM FIRE! SHOCK AND AWE! SOME OTHER PHRASE!]]

As leader of the [[4-Wheel-Drive Brigade]], Hound responded to a Decepticon threat within a crater in [[Kyushu]]. The threat turned out to be the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], who trapped the Brigade within a smoking pit thanks to some well-placed landmines. Hound "combined" (er, ''formed a human pyramid'') with the other members of the Brigade, creating the "4-Wheel-Drive Robo Combination Scrumbuster" attack, which busted the Insecticons' scrum and sent them into retreat. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 3|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #3}}

Later, Hound accompanied [[Kenji]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] on a mission to an island utopia so they could reconvene with another Autobot unit. Upon arriving, however, they found [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and his troops being held captive by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]! Turns out that Megatron had chosen the island utopia as the perfect place to complete the creation of [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. With the giant transforming city standing before them, Perceptor and Hound concocted a clever scheme to defeat the villain. While [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] protected the local wildlife, Hound projected a hologram of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] through Perceptor's lenses, enlarging it. Trypticon mistook the phony Metroplex for the real deal and rushed it, passing through the hologram and falling into the sea. Hound and the other Autobots then put the captive Constructicons to work, restoring the island utopia to its former beauty. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 6|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #6}}

====''Story of Binaltech''====
Hound was one of many Autobots who suffered from the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] virus when [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] unleashed it upon them. Working together with the humans, the Autobots created the [[Binaltech|Binaltech Project]] as a means of transferring the injured Autobots' sparks into super-powered new bodies created from human technology. Along with [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], Hound was part of the first wave of Binaltech warriors, who assembled on Earth under the command of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|Story of Binaltech, Chapter 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[Image:FourWarriors HotRod Hound.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hey, it's that green guy!]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michitaka Kobayashi]] (Japanese)

In the year 2011, Hound was stationed at the Autobot base on [[Athenia]]. When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] wondered how the Decepticons had managed to invade Cybertron so easily, Hound theorized that releasing the energy of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] might have destabilized [[Vector Sigma]]. He was right. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
During the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Hound was an Autobot warrior under the command of Optimus Prime. When Prime disappeared, and the Autobots fractioned into several smaller armies, Hound remained with the primary Autobot faction under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s leadership. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Some time later (and four million years ago), Hound was part of the crew of the ''Ark'' spaceship, and crashlanded on the planet Earth after a conflict with the Decepticons. The Autobots and Decepticons on board remained in [[stasis lock]], buried at the base of [[Mount St. Hilary]] in Oregon, until the volcano exploded in 1984, freeing them. Hound and the other Autobots under Prime's command waged war against the Decepticons on Earth, until finally capturing them all. Roughly a decade after they arrived, the Autobots planned to return to Cybertron with their prisoners aboard the ''[[Ark II]]''. Tragically, however, sabotage led to the spaceship exploding on its maiden voyage, and all aboard were believed dead.

Not so. In fact, a human mercenary named [[Lazarus]] had recovered a great number of the Transformers that had been on-board, including Hound. He went to work on these deactivated robots, installing programming directives that would turn the Cybertronians into mindless drones for his own purposes. In 2002, Hound was repurposed as Lazarus' transport jeep when he entertained the "freedom fighter" [[Bishop (human)|Bishop]], and stood guard against anybody following them. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} Lazarus was prepared to unleash his robot soldiers on the world, only to fail at the starting gate when Megatron reasserted control over his own programming and resumed the war. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} Hound, along with the other Autobots Lazarus had salvaged, were used to power Megatron's metallic virus. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] reported barely functional state. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}}

Not long thereafter, Hound and the Autobots were confronted with an envoy from Cybertron, which had apparently ended the war sometime ago, creating a Unified Cybertronian government. Allegedly in order to prevent the warlike Transformers of Earth from igniting old passions, Hound and many of his fellow Autobots were captured by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], and their operatives. Brought back to Cybertron aboard [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]], Hound and the Autobots were removed from their prison cells by the [[Triple Changer]] named [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], and brought into contact with a resistance cell led by [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]. It seemed Shockwave actually had a hidden agenda (of course), and many Autobots had begun taking up arms again to fight back against his regime. Hound joined in the insurrection at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and the resistance ultimately pushed Shockwave out of command, retaking Cybertron for the Autobots. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

As Ultra Magnus began re-establishing Autobot control over the planet, Prowl decided the ''Ark'''s crew would be best served by returning to Earth and establishing a permanent base of operations there. Being the Earth-lover that he is, Hound was all for the idea. He was last seen at the site of the future [[Autobot City]], using his holograms to help [[Grapple]] visualize his plans for the city. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[Image:GIJoevsTF5_Hound_dies.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Hound's career as "[[To sell toys|hi-and-die]]" was short-lived.]]
Hound was present during the chaotic battle on [[Cobra Island]] between the Autobots, Decepticons, [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and [[Cobra]]. He was blasted in half by [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], sending [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] into a fit of rage. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}}

{{note|As Hound only appears in a single panel, it's unclear where he came from and if he was among the Transformers recently freed from Cobra's control. He does not appear to have a Cobra vehicle mode, however.}}

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===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
Hound lay dormant and buried on the [[Fera Islands]] for a long time, until he and his comrades were awakened in [[1939]] thanks to the battle between [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and [[Cobra]]. After he was reformatted into a military jeep and had the situation explained to him by [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]], Hound was eager to help the Joes with their mission. {{storylink|Transformed}} As the battle began in earnest, he proved ignorant as to the existence of paratroopers. {{storylink|Trial by Fire (issue)|Trial by Fire}}

During a run-in with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], Hound sat around in vehicle mode and got dented by the Decepticon's earthquakes, but was otherwise unharmed. {{storylink|Wolves}} As the Autobots advanced towards the [[Terrordrome]], Hound's scanners detected Cobra soldiers forcing slaves to act as human shields, so he suggested that they clear out a nearby trench to hide the slaves in. {{storylink|Trenches}} When a few of the slaves fell in the ocean, Hound and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] helped G.I. Joe pull them up. Unfortunately, both Autobots were killed in battle shortly afterwards. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
While Hound was out driving with Bumblebee and Spike, the trio happened on a badly-injured Starscream, whom Hound's sensors told him had fallen down the side of a nearby mountain. Hound initially feared it was a trap, but Bumblebee persuaded him to carry the Decepticon back to the Ark. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:MegsOrigin4 Hound.jpg|left|250px|thumb|It's rainin' Hounds!]]
Before the war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Hound was a veteran member of the Autobots, having served under [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] with the Security Services force in [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}} During the mass prison break of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s gladiators and Kaon's most dangerous criminals, Hound and the Autobot security forces struggled to hold the line against the rioting malcontents. After Sentinel Prime returned to the battlefield in his Apex armor, Hound served as optic lead for Sentinel's heads-up scanners in targeting Megatron. However, Megatron destroyed Sentinel Prime's display helmet by throwing Hound's heavily damaged form at the Autobot commander. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

Hound survived, and continued to serve with the Autobot war effort as the situation escalated. He was working with Optimus Prime, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Groove (G1)|Groove]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] in defending one of Cybertron's cities as Megatron's forces began expanding his empire. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}

[[Image:SpotlightGalvatron Hound.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Guido Guidi draws Cybertronian Hound and makes me cry.]]

Much, much later, Hound was the current leader of a combat unit consisting of [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], [[Road Rocket (G2)|Road Rocket]] and [[Skram (G2)|Skram]], manning a permanent guard post around [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s hidden base in [[Thunderhead Pass]]. Hound was a by-the-book guy who followed his mission parameters. Sideswipe was an authority-challenging, loud-talking belligerent who constantly insulted this dull posting and demanded they head for Earth to search for his missing brother [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Working with him makes Hound cry.

To add insult to injury [[Galvatron (G1)|a mysterious and powerful being]] barged into the base, killed Leadfoot, seriously damaged everyone else, and then stole the inactive form of [[Thunderwing (G1)|the planet-murdering Thunderwing]] himself. {{storylink|Spotlight: Galvatron}} In the middle of briefing [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] on this event, Hound was interrupted by Sideswipe going on about Sunstreaker again. To Hound's surprise, Optimus agreed and called the team to Earth, {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} only for him to then order them to [[Garrus-9]] instead when the "[[Pretender Monster|Monstructor Six]]" were broken out of the prison there. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}

As they headed off in ''[[Ark-12]]'', Hound had to listen to, yep, Sideswipe moaning they weren't looking for Sunstreaker. His angry retort to Sideswipe to take it up with Prime was interrupted by an attack from [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]; Hound followed protocol in fighting him off and prepared to carry on instead of investigating the incident (necessity before need), only for the dead Cyclonus to ''get up again'' and keep shooting. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] received Hound's distress call from and drove off the threat, but poor Hound got berated by Sideswipe into diverting from their mission to investigate. That divergence led them to [[Corata-Vaz]] where Sideswipe goaded Cyclonus into attacking instead of surrendering and then insulted Hound when criticised over this, Cyclonus deadened Hound's arm, and then Thunderwing was awakened to swat the Autobots all aside. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

Prowl regarded the battle with Hound's unit and the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] versus Thunderwing as suicidal. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}} Observing that the battle was not going well, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] decided to try and take control of Thunderwing using Bludgeon's [[Axis Cradle]], telling [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] to take their forces into the [[Nega-Core]] chamber as quickly as possible should he be successful. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

Hound's unit were pulled out of Corata-Vaz and, along with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], dispatched to Earth to mess up the enemy's space bridge set-up there. Hound sent his men through the Bridge portals to nab all the [[Nega-Core|Nega-Cores]], except for Skram who was sent to get [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], and Sideswipe who volunteered to keep the enemy forces off their backs. Hound didn't understand Sideswipe's reasons but admitted he'd been wrong about the mech, and announced it was an honour to have served with him. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

Some time later, Hound joined Optimus Prime's Autobots on Earth, only to be defeated when they were all lured into a Decepticon trap. The Decepticons subsequently dumped them all on Cybertron in hopes that the [[Insecticon swarm]] would finish them off. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} Hound and the others were stuck on the ruined planet while the Decepticons rampaged across Earth. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}} During one battle with the swarm, he let [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] ride him in vehicle mode, although he had traction problems on the planet's metallic surface. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8}} Hound later watched in silence as the leaderless Autobots broke into one argument after another. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9}}

Following the Autobots' return to Earth, Hound located [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], who had helped them defeat the Decepticons by sniping Megatron, and brought him to Optimus Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12}} He was later part of an Autobot squad sent to retrieve [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] after he went missing in the ruins of [[New York City|New York]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 16|Hidden}}

Three years later, Hound was still stationed on Earth with Optimus Prime. He was present when [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] demanded to go on a rescue mission for Prowl, and again after the mission went bad and Prime abdicated his leadership role. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} He watched as Hot Rod led a group of Autobots in seceding from the main army {{storylink|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} and as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived to perform his internal affairs report on [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'s murder. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}}

Hound was among those who cheered when Bumblebee was nominated as the new leader of the Autobots. He went with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and Bumblebee to investigate [[Gordon Horiuchi]]'s proposed alliance between the Autobots and his loyalists in [[Skywatch]]. Hound's scans didn't turn up anything improper, though, and so the Autobots became Skywatch's newest robot hunters. They captured [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Axer]], and several others in the hopes of building up enough goodwill for Skywatch's governing body to recognize that they weren't a threat. Their hopes were dashed, however, when Horiuchi demanded they capture one of their own deserters, [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]. He also demonstrated a hidden failsafe measure in the badges Skywatch had provided them, letting him remotely mode-lock any Autobot who disobeyed orders. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

Not having any other choice, Hound and the others reluctantly captured Blurr, but refused to turn him over in the end. Bumblebee's badge was damaged in combat, and so the Autobots worked out a ruse so that he could roam free and find a means of freeing them from Skywatch. {{storylink|The Impossible Knot}} Hound and the others continued to play along with Horiuchi while Bumblebee ran his solo mission. {{storylink|The Gift Horse}} Eventually, Bumblebee successfully disabled the badges and, to accomodate his new role as leader, he had Hound and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] upgrade his body with additional strength and armor. {{storylink|Wings of Wax}}

Several months later, Hound and most other Autobots left Earth to return to Cybertron. He was among those who were curious about how Optimus Prime would interrogate a captive Megatron. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}}

{{note|The events of ''Spotlight: Mirage'' possibly take place in an alternate/unknown continuity.}}
[[Image:SpotlightMirage Hound dies.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Second death, but it still doesn't count.]]
On Earth, Hound's friend Mirage was seriously injured, and as he recuperated, he was haunted repeatedly by dreams of being a Decepticon. In this dream, Hound was among the last of the Autobots holding out in a losing battle with the Decepticons. He was working on a way to convert the cross-dimensional [[Zodiac]] energy for consumption in lieu of energon when Mirage tricked the Autobots into letting him enter their hideout. During the subsequent scuffle, Hound killed Soundwave, but the Autobots were forced to surrender when Mirage held Jetfire hostage, yet promised to spare their lives. Unfortunately for Hound, Mirage was ordered by Megatron to execute the Autobots. Hound was killed by Mirage as defiance to Optimus Prime's pleas for him to see reason. But it was just a dream (or some alternate dimension mumbo-jumbo), so it didn't matter. Right? {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===

Hound was chasing [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] after the sneaky Mini-Cassette snatched a sack full of energon cubes. He lost the cat for a while, and caught up just in time to see [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] overpower Ravage and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] while re-enacting the Circle of Life. They made friends, and Hound promised to return to the safari park and visit soon. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 8|Henkei! Henkei! #8}}

===''Henkei! Henkei!'' Bun Bun manga===
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==Games==
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots' [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Hound could come to Optimus Prime's aid, offering different routes through the Decepticons' maze-like base. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}

===The Transformers (1985)===
Hound was among the few remaining Autobots in the wake of the Decepticon creation of ROBO-CLONING technology. With his energy-starved comrades, he desperately sought pieces of the Autobot Energon Cube before the Decepticons could get their hands on them. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}

===The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth===
[[Image:C64Hound.jpg|thumb|250px|"Fold in the middle! *flump*"]]

Along with his fellow Autobots, Hound protected Earth from the menace of the Decepticons. He was ostensibly under the command of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth}}

===The Transformers (PS2)===
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Hound toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Short but sweet.]]
* '''Hound''' (Autobot, 1984/1985/2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''02''', '''TFC-14'''
**''Accessories:'' "Hologram Gun", machine gun, missile launcher, 3 missiles, spare tire, gas can

: Hound was released as part of the initial Autobot assortment in 1984, transforming into a Mitsubishi J59 Jeep. Mounted on the back of the vehicle mode is a large, [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] silver machine gun turret which doesn't really go anywhere in robot mode. Other vehicle accessories include a spare tire and a fuel canister which also don't really go anywhere in robot mode.

: In robot mode, Hound is armed with a large, silver "holographic rifle" and a shoulder-mounted, spring-loaded, firing rocket launcher with three silver projectiles. The US version of this launcher had severely weakened springs [[for safety reasons]].

: He was reissued in 2004 by [[Takara]] in their [[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]] "bookbox" reissue series.

: This mold was used to make the [[e-Hobby]] [[exclusive]] [[Detritus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Hound/hound.htm More information on Generation 1 Hound at TFU.info]''
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===Generation 2===
[[Image:Un autorollers.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Sgt. Hound. Starring Steve Martin. (Hound is the white payloader.)]]
*'''Sgt. Hound''' (Auto Roller, 1995)
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: A [[redeco]] of the [[Auto Roller]] [[Roadblock (G2)|Roadblock]] was planned for release in 1995 as "Sgt. Hound", but was one of several redecos and molds that were canceled with the end of the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]]. He would have transformed into a payloader. As an [[Auto Roller]], a switch on his vehicle-mode back end connects a gearing mechanism attached to his rear axle, which makes him [[autotransform]] from vehicle to robot mode when pushed forward, and back when pulled in reverse. His right arm ends in a spring-loaded missile launcher, while his left features a spring-gear-activated spinning circular saw. All four of his missiles can be stowed on his rear wheel wells. No known samples of the toy have surfaced.

: This mold was also used to make [[Autocrasher]] from ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]''.

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===Alternators===
[[Image:Alternators Hound toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"At long last, I HAVE ELBOWS!!!"]]
* '''Autobot Hound''' (2004)
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''3'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-04'''
**''Accessories'': Pistol

: For the ''[[Alternators]]'' line, Hound's vehicle mode was updated to a [[Wikipedia:Jeep Wrangler|Jeep Wrangler]], with opening doors, hood (with mock engine bay) and tailgate, and a detailed interior. Hound also features a working suspension system, similar to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]], but lacks steering. In robot mode, he greatly resembles both the original toy in detail and the Generation 1 cartoon model in proportions and personality. In this form, Hound is armed with a holographic projector gun stored inside his spare tire.

: The Japanese ''Binaltech'' release of the toy is largely identical to the [[Hasbro]] version, except for the use of painted [[die-cast]] metal for numerous vehicle-mode panels.

:The mold was [[Retool|retooled]] into ''Alternators'' [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/AltHound/hound.htm More info on Alternators Hound at TFU.info]''

===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
[[Image:Hounduniverselegends.jpg|right|300px|thumb|But not any more...]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Legends, 2008)

: Part of the second wave of ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Legends Class|Legends-class]] figures (but the first wave to feature new-mold items, not simply ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]''-series [[Redeco|redecoes]]), the first ''Universe'' Hound toy is sculpted to closely resemble his Generation 1 design, particularly in the way his vehicle mode resembles a somewhat outdated, old-fashioned army Jeep. For legal reasons, the vehicle mode has been slightly tweaked, such as sporting squared headlights and horizontal vents in the front grille, as compared to the characteristic round headlights/vertical grille vents design of a real-life Jeep. Due to his small size and [[size class|price point]], he has no weapon in either mode.

: This mold was also used to make [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] Tracker Hound.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/LegendsHound/hound.htm More information on Universe Legends Hound at TFU.info]''
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====Generation 1 Series====
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[[Image:Universe2008 G1Hound.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Wait, never mind! I found them!]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Missile launcher

:Part of the fourth wave of ''Universe'' Deluxe-class toys, this version of Hound is more of an evolution of the character rather than the reproduction the Legends class toy represents. His vehicle mode resembles a [[Wikipedia:Jeep Hurricane|Jeep Hurricane]] concept car, once again with a modified front section that avoids the trademark Jeep look with round headlights and vertical grille vents. Unlike his Legends class toy, Deluxe class Hound features his familiar (non-firing) rocket launcher in both vehicle and robot modes. In the area of "undocumented, but not terribly exciting, features", the soles of Hound's feet can pivot inwards, providing more stability for wide-stanced poses.

:Hasbro's initial "hand-painted digitally touched-up prototype" [[stock photography|stock photos]] featured a slightly different color layout for Hound, with a black bullbar (painted silver on the final toy) and entirely reversed arm colors: The original stock photos feature green shoulders, black forearms with three yellow stripes and green fists, whereas the final toy has the entire arm cast out of black plastic and the ''forearms'' painted over in green, with only one thick yellow stripe per arm.

:Hound comes with a figure of [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage in an all-new sculpt]], who can fit (in tape form) on the back of Hound's vehicle mode. Other [[Mini-Cassette]] Transformers can fit there too, though not as well as the new Ravage.

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Scorch (G1)|Turbomaster]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TFUHound/hound.htm More information on Universe Deluxe Hound at TFU.info]''
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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei_houndravage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|A friend to all the animals.]]
*'''Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13'''
**''Accessories'': Missile launcher

:The Japanese version of ''Universe'' (2008) Hound, ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Hound is primarily cast in a darker shade of green plastic for a better match to his original toy and appearances in fiction. Where ''Universe'' Hound had white plastic, ''Henkei'' Hound replaces it with grey, and overall has more elaborate paint applications, such as the toy-homaging yellow stripe around the edges of his his hood and silver paint on his hubcaps. As with all ''Henkei! Henkei!'' toys, Hound has [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] plastic, specifically his grill guard, albeit in an unusually dark color to make it resemble dark polished metal.
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TF2010-toy_Tracker_Hound.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Probably likes to hang out with [[Pyro#Timelines|Disco Inferno]].]]
*'''Tracker Hound''' (Legends, 2010)

: Tracker Hound is a redeco of ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Legends-class Autobot Hound in black with gold striping with aditional details done in metal grey and his eyes are painted in metallic blue. He lacks his signature yellow star and instead features a silver Autobot symbol in its place.

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==Merchandise==
===Decoy===
*'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)

*'''Hound''' (1987)
**''Decoy number:'' '''17'''

: The figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple "checklist" number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Hound/hound.htm More information on Decoy Hound at TFU.info]''

===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroeshoundblitzwing.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Not included: Awkwardly-positioned Spike.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' vs '''Blitzwing''' (2008)

: Released in the first wave of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', Hound is posed, like many Robot Heroes, in a squat crouching pose. However, he has a few noteworthy aspects: he's one of the few Generation 1 characters to be sculpted with a handheld weapon. More surprising than that, Hound is currently the ''most'' articulated Generation 1 Robot Hero, having swivel joints at his head, shoulders and ''waist''.

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===Speed Stars===
====Stealth Force====
[[Image:StealthForce_Hound_toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Missile launcher converts to missile launcher and back!]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Basic, 2010)

:''[[Speed Stars]]'' "Autobot Hound" is part of the "Stealth Force" sub-line, consisting of vehicles without robot modes, but with plenty of flip-out panels with hidden weapons. The toy is a Jeep Hurricane approximation that's nearly identical to Hound's ''Universe'' Deluxe Class toy, about 5% larger in length and height and about 10% larger in width. The similarities with ''Universe'' Hound aren't limited to the general vehicle design, but extend to to almost absurdly faithfully recreated details such as the design of the rims, the tire patterns and even the prongs in the back that were used to attach [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] on ''Universe'' Hound (sculpted in their retracted state on "Stealth Force" Hound). The biggest liberties, oddly enough, have been taken with the design of the dashboard.

: Hound's "Stealth Force" gimmick is triggered either by pulling out the front bumper or any medium amount of impact, which activates an auto-transformation mechanism that extracts all four wheels sideways and reveals non-firing weapons in the vehicle's hood, fenders, doors and trunk, and an extracting (non-concealed) missile launcher above the co-driver's seat.

: His [[package art]] is directly recycled from ''Universe'' Autobot Hound.

{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Hound braver roadking armada generics.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
* The Hound toy was originally a ''[[Diaclone]]'' "J59 Jeep", coming with a blue-and-white pilot figure and several IP-infringing decals.
* Ken Sansom's voice for Hound sounds not unlike famous actor [[Wikipedia:James Stewart (actor)|Jimmy Stewart]].

* Due to the [[character model|animation model]] of the characters being based on [[package art]] as much as the actual toy, Hound's holographic rifle was misinterpreted as a small pistol thanks to the foreshortening used. The Alternators toy uses the "pistol", which led people more familiar with the original figure's gigantic rifle to quip that his new weapon was "far too small".

* Hound's head design has several elements that alternate frequently between two different interpretations among the various toys and art renditions: On the original toy, the center of his helmet sports a raised ridge that's only slightly indented compared to the sides of the helmet on the front end. The animation model, based on the toy's package art that depicts the section in question in a way that's open to misinterpretation, changes that to an ''entirely'' indented middle section of the helmet ''without'' a ridge. Since then, comic book artists have mostly followed the animation model, with the exception of [[Don Figueroa]] ([[The War Within|''The War Within'' volume 1]] and IDW's [[The Transformers (IDW)|ongoing title]], the latter drawn in his new "live action movie"-inspired style) and [[Andrew Wildman]] ([[War Within: The Dark Ages|''The War Within'' volume 2]]). The toys (''[[Alternators]]'', ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Legends Class]] and [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) have mostly remained faithful to the original toy, with the exception of the ''Universe'' Deluxe Class toy. In addition, the usually raised "earmuff" sections on the sides of the helmet, which were ''indented'' on the original toy, alternate heavily between "round" and "squared", sometimes even between different comics drawn by the same artist (notably [[E. J. Su]] and [[Guido Guidi]]).

* Like those of many Generation 1 characters, Hound's animation model has appeared as an unnamed cameo in the [[Armada (cartoon)|''Armada'' cartoon]]. He is visible both reacting to the [[Mini-Con]] beacon alongside [[Braver]] and [[Road King]] in "[[First Encounter]]" (seen at right), and in a flashback in "[[Prehistory]]".

* The Alternators version of Hound was originally planned as a Jeep Rubicon, sporting a slightly different transformation that would have somewhat reduced the back kibble. Presumably, the change from the Rubicon to the Wrangler was due to Jeep wanting their more common model featured.
[[Image:Universe Hound concept.jpg|200px|thumb|]]

*The Japanese book ''[[Transformers Generations 2009|Transformers Generations 2009 Vol. 1]]'' contains concept art (by [[Don Figueroa]]) for an earlier version of ''Universe'' Hound, resembling a Humvee instead of the Jeep form of the final figure.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Hound''' (ハウンド ''Haundo'')
*''French:'' '''Dépisteur''' (Canada, "The Tracker")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Vadászeb''' ("Hound")
*''Italian:'' '''Canguro''' ("Kangaroo")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Lìeh-chǐuan''' (Taiwan, 獵犬, "Hound"), '''Tan Zhang''' (China, 探長, "Chief Detective")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Caçador''' (Portugal comics), '''Rastreador''' (Brazil comics, "Tracker")
*''Russian:'' '''Ohotnik''' (Охотник, "Hunter")

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Hound Hound's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

[[Category:Alternators Autobots]]
[[Category:Classics Autobots]]
[[Category:Decoys]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Trackers]]
[[Category:The Headmasters Autobots]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]
[[Category:Scouts]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]

User:Rustyscraplet

2011-07-11T17:24:57Z

Rustyscraplet:

Space Operaâ€”Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix

2011-07-11T17:02:33Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Covers (3) */ - Rodimus holds the matrix, Optimus is at his left side

{{picsneeded|covers, interiors}}

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' #21
|prev=Space Opera Act 2: Out of the Silent Planet
|next=Chaos Theory Part 1
|title="Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix"
|image=
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[July 6]], [[2011]]
|coverdate=July 2011
|written by=[[Mike Costa]]
|art by=[[Guido Guidi]] (main story),
|colors by=[[Joana Lafuente]]
|letters by=[[Shawn Lee]]
|assistant editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]
|editor=[[Andy Schmidt]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2011)]]
}}

'''Optimus Prime leads his Autobots back to Cybertron while a disgruntled Bumblebee remains on Earth with Prowl, who has plans.'''

==Synopsis==
==="Orphans of the Helix"===
While Skywatch men guard Omega Supreme, Ratchet tells Bumblebee it will take some time to fabricate a leg replacement joint. Bumblebee is just glad to be up and about and jokes with Pennington about having "wheels of his own". The fun is interrupted by Bluestreak, who exclaims that Hot Rod is back from the dead. Indeed, Hot Rod has returned with those thought dead or long missing: Ironhide, Wheelie and Sunstreaker. Bumblebee is flabbergasted while Hot Rod demands to see Optimus. Hot Rod presents the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to Optimus and tells the tale of his travels. Optimus christened him Rodimus, and the name Hot Rod was not used again. The other Autobots bonded in the meantime.

Optimus emerged and announced that Cybertron was again habitable, but that Galvatron was there with an army and Prime intends to stop whatever machinations Galvatron has planned. They will travel in Omega Supreme's rocket while his base remains on Earth. All the Autobots except Bumblebee volunteered to help protect their home planet. Bumblebee sulks about being usurped while Optimus tells him that he's still leader, and will abide by his choice. He also told Bumblebee something that angered him, making him announce he's staying on Earth with Magnus and a few others. Optimus and the majority of the Autobots blast off with Omega Supreme toward Cybertron.

==="Police Action: Prologue"===
Before the group leaves, Prowl asks Optimus for some words with Megatron. Prowl questions Megatron about his "damaging information". After Prime relays this to Bumblebee, Thundercracker defiantly leaves Prowl and the base, warning them not provoke him. Bumblebee announced that Prowl reports to Magnus, who reports to Bumblebee. As Prowl returns to base, Spike requests that he be kept involved, and Prowl muses how "involved" Spike really is.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (1)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (4)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Silverstreak]] (6)
*[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (7)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (8)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (10)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (11)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (12)
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (13)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (14)
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (15)
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] (16)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (17)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (18)
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (19)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (20)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (21)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (22)
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (23)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (26)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (27)
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] (28)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (29)
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] (30)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (32)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (33)

|c3=
*[[Skywatch]] guards (2)
*[[Pennington]] (5)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (24)
*[[Joe Henderson]] (25)

|c4=
*[[Garnak]] (9)
*[[Bob (IDW)|Bob]] (31)
}}

==Quotes==
*TBD

==Notes==
* The issue is split into two stories, the main "Orphans of the Helix" and Prowl's story, "Police Action: Prologue".
* The main story is named after ''[[wikipedia:Orphans of the Helix|Orphans of the Helix]]'', a science fiction short story by Dan Simmons.
* While Hot Rod has been called "Rodimus" for multiple issues now, as of this issue he is officially christened as such.

===Errors===
* Tracks is miscolored as Drift.
*[[Joe Henderson]] is colored as a white person.
* Hot Spot is colored white in both of his panels.

===Covers (3)===
* '''Cover A:''' Bumblebee looks disappointed as Rodimus wields the Matrix in the background; art by [[Marcelo Matere]].
* '''Cover B:''' Optimus Prime receives the Matrix from Rodimus; art by [[Guido Guidi]] and colors by [[Joana Lafuente]].
* '''Cover RI:''' Prowl and Megatron staring each other down; art by [[Brendan Cahill]] and colors by [[Priscilla Tramontano]].

===Advertisements===
* "Chaos" Checklist
* ''Walter Simonson's The Mighty Thor: Artist's Edition''
* [[IDW Words]] plugging ''Thor'', 'Dave Stevens: The Complete Sketchbook", IDW Legacy Editions
* IDW on Twitter
* ''Angel: The Covers'' (back cover)

[[Category:IDW Generation 1 issues]]

User:Rustyscraplet

2011-07-10T08:47:15Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{quote|Just Get to the Point.|"This is my way of saying I am not interested. And you know that."|}}

A ''girl'' Journalist, and Transformers fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And she loves robots better than humans. Touché.

On TFWiki, she fills up articles in need of images; and skipped parts in a content of a comic.

User:Rustyscraplet

2011-07-10T08:45:51Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{quote|Just Get to the Point.|"This is my way of saying I am not interested. And you know that."|}}

A ''girl'' transformer fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And she loves robots better than humans. Touché.

On TFWiki, she fills up articles in need of images; and skipped parts in a content of a comic.

User:Rustyscraplet

2011-07-10T08:37:58Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{quote|Just Get to the Point.|This is my way of saying I am not interested. And you know that.|}}

A ''girl'' transformer fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And she loves robots better than humans. Touché.

On TFWiki, she fills up articles in need of images; and skipped parts in a content of a comic.

User:Rustyscraplet

2011-07-10T08:36:17Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{quote|Just Get to the Point.|I am not interested. And you know that.|}}

A ''girl'' transformer fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And she loves robots better than humans. Touché.

On TFWiki, she fills up articles in need of images; and skipped parts in a content of a comic.

Talk:Transformers Vault

2011-07-07T22:38:51Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Other Errors */

The Australian version is published by Ice Water Press and features a different cover (slipcase has a bit Autobot logo, and on the cover itself is a Decepticon logo.) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:21, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Is there any point in saying the images of G1 Prime and Megs are from the Shout factory DVDs? Because they're just stock Hasbro licensing images. Also, how did we know Andrew Griffith drew them? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:22, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
:You know, I was going to say "because he drew all the covers to the Shout Factory DVDs", but I've just checked his DeviantArt and he actually doesn't credit himself with the first season set. I've asked him about the artist behind the Prime and Megs images. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:51, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
::Ah, you are quite right sir, they weren't Griffith's - they are indeed Hasbro stock images used for the first season DVD cover, which he then emulated for the subsequent sets. They're by Don Fig - which actually was what I ''originally'' speculated before looking up the DVDs, because of those stupid motherfucking "high heels" he's been insistent on giving G1 Prime since DW's MTMTE. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:17, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

== Page name ==

Why isn't this just "Transformers:Vault"? To me that long rambling mess looks less like a subtitle of the book than a hype blurb. Kind of like the "the world's greatest comic mag" on the cover of Fantastic Four. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:46, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
:It is a subtitle, just look at the Abrams page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:55, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
::Even so. It remains a rambling mess that's just unnecessary to have as a full title. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:58, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
::The Abrams page has "Transformers Vault" for a page title (the one that appears in the browser title bar). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:38, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
:::I don't particularly mind the title and would like to point out that we have [[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]] and [[Transformers: The Ark|The Ark: A Complete Compendium of Character Designs]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:46, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
::::And yet we don't have [[Ghosts of Yesterday|Ghosts of Yesterday: The Official Prequel to the Upcoming Blockbuster Film]] or [[Transformers Legends|Transformers Legends: The First Ever Collection of Transformers Stories]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:54, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::Ah, well. Pick either style and be consistent, I guess. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:06, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::Do have to say, I did always think Exodus and The Ark's article titles were overlong. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:41, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::The official title of The Ark is, indeed Transformers: The Ark. The subtitle isn't part of the title and probably shouldn't be in the article title.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 22:55, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

==Other Errors==
I don't have the page number offhand, but the Energon incarnation of Arcee is referred to as a car rather than a motorcycle on whichever page covers Energon and the 20th anniversary.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 11:48, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

:: I also noticed a minor error, that somewhere at the first pages, There is a Prototype Soundwave G1 toy wich editor referred to as Blaster. --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 00:00, 7 July 2011 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2011-06-07T19:27:48Z

Rustyscraplet: /* G1 */

== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

I just played through the whole game - This game could not be any more G1 even if it tried harder. I don't see how this can be in the same continuity as TF:Prime when it's so undeniably G1. It belongs as part of the G1 continuity family not TF:Prime which appears to be it's own movie inspired continuity. The game is not like Animated in which it 'borrows and adapts' elements from G1, this game actually is G1 down to how characters are portrayed and roles they are assigned as well as the story telling structure. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27|04:40, 11 July 2010 (EDT)}}
:How do you know it's not like Prime? Character designs? Pah. I could use that strawman to declare the Don Figueroa era of the Ongoing an AU too, you know, or TF: Bumblebee being non-canon with said Ongoing. We know next to nothing about TF: Prime, you have no basis whatsoever to say it can't be just as heavily G1-inspired as WFC is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:57, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

How can you tell that it is? We had two conflicting official sources one saying that it is and one saying that it isn't. I rather go by what the game developers say than what Hasbro marketing says thank you very much. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}
:The game developers are saying that it's G1 so it sells better. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:25, 11 July 2010 (EDT)
:Well, that's your prerogative, but I'd think as Hasbro, the guys who license Transformers out to places like Atari and Activision and IDW, would know more about what fits where than Activision/High Moon Studios would. Perhaps the developpers initially wanted to go the "Generation 1" route, but then Hasbro saw the storyline and thought it fit just as well in "Prime" and decided to announce it as such to help promote the new show. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:26, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

I have a feeling that when TF:Prime finally arrives it will make absolutely no reference whatsoever to WFC and at the end of the day it was just marketing guys talking. I played the game, the game is clearly designed to be G1 despite what Hasbro may blab on about. {{unsigned|Same dude who can't sign his posts}}
:Please. At this point G1 had so many alternate interpretations it's impossible for anything to be qualified as "clearly G1". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:46, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

But all the interpretations are regarded as G1. Animated isn't G1, Unicron Trilogy isn't G1 and so on. It is very clear what is G1 and what isn't. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}

Sign your posts! And look, right now, Hasbro is the authority on Transformers. Right now, Hasbro declares WFC part of Prime. Right now, Prime is not G1. So right now, we have WFC separate from G1. If ever the line is blurred or those statements clearly contradicted, we'll give you a call and change it. Until then, this is the safest and easiest way for us to document the new stuff and it's not going to get changed because one anon doesn't agree. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 08:31, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

Just voicing my views not requesting change. No need to be so defensive and I am yet to see anything solid from Hasbro saying that this is part of TF: Prime and something tells me that we won't. Personally I believe that calling WFC as part of TF:Prime is premature.

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

Ultra Magnus gets also his own toy.--[[Special:Contributions/CAJH|CAJH]] 17:35, 10 August 2010 (EST)

:Forget my previous message. The toy is not similar than version of Ultra Magnus in WFC. This is the link to the image: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/TGHuk6mTUkI/AAAAAAAAJG4/6TJL3upLNf4/s1600/TFFanUltraMagnus1.jpg--[[Special:Contributions/CAJH|CAJH]] 09:02, 12 August 2010 (EST)
::That's a custom. It's a repainted Prime with Energon Barricade's head. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:18, 12 August 2010 (EDT)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream (WFC)|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
Actual answer: they are multiplayer chassis / escelation mode characters. However jazz and arcee do make an appearance in a level in the autobot campaign. They're well hidden so I encourage you to find them for yourself. {{unsigned|72.113.21.56|01:32, 9 August 2010 (EDT)}}

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
:I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010
:The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

The blue tank (my opinion) must be Scattorshot because Scattorshot doesn't look like a blue Warpath, he's a dlc character, and he is a soldier (like a Warpath)

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

== Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==

Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== G1? ==

This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)
:We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling "canon". Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)
:It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD.
::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)
: If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}
::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
: Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::"Forget Hasbro"? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word "said" is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
(sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== pages ==

When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. "Your patience will be rewarded." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== DLC ==
Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)
:Dude, please. It's perfectly fine to ask for an article to be brought up to date, but it's pointless to tell anyone "shouldn't we complete this article". There's tons of articles to complete and whoever's on it is on it. If no one's on it yet, someone will be on it later. If you feel there's information missing, information you have access to, you can always try add it yourself. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:12, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== hmmmm? ==
Question!Question!so ummmm...would WFC really go on the same page as the prime series due to the differences in storyline because it seems like it they would have different pages.Can someone please explain why because its kinda confusing.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:04,July 8 2010 (EDT)
:No. WFC is a version of Prime, so it goes on the Prime pages under its own section. The same way the cartoon, Marvel, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW are all versions of G1 and so go on the G1 pages. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)
ohhhh,okay thank you.-- [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== Title ==

Given the way things are generally named on this wiki, shouldn't this article just be titled 'War for Cybertron' rather than 'Transformers: War for Cybertron'? --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 07:17, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

The title of the game is ''Transformers:War for Cybertron'' right?So we should go by the title of the game. [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:25, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
:Did a quick check of a few things.... Franchises tend to have the "Transformers" removed from the title (except Animated, mainly because it would just look funny), as do comic books (see [[Infiltration]] etc.). Video games tend to keep the "Transformers" prefix (except for ROTF, where most of the games drop it). It seems that policy is somewhat vague. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 00:53, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

== Links in Transformers references ==

Why is it that for things like "Brute-a-kiss" and "Devastator!" we link to the original (mostly G1) versions and not the disambiguation pages? For "Motormaster!", I can understand since until the game, there was only one Motormaster, but "Blast-a-rachnia" could easily be a reference to the Animated character and not just the BW one. Would it make more sense to link to the disambiguation pages for some of them, or am I alone? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 10:05, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
:That may simply be a remnant of when we thought that this game (and the Prime franchise) were part of the G1 continuity families. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:43, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
::That's what I was thinking. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:18, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Comics ==

Well I see the point about the game not being a prequel to the G1 cartoon.So how about the dreamwave comics or something?Hasbro doesn't seem to ever care about storylines making sense; so why should we consider them tie-ins because they want to sell toys?Shouldn't we look into other universes other than the cartoon.The Marvel Comics continuity for instance. --[[User:saberblade]] 10:52, 25 July 2010 (EDT)
:Various details (particularly having to do with Jetfire, the Dinobots, and the combiner teams) prevent it from being the backstory to any major (and most minor) G1 universe. This game is part of Hasbro's new Prime franchise (which is heavily G1 influenced but with many characters and concepts from later franchises added in), no matter what the video game company says as promotion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:47, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nav Box ==

Not saying it's totally a bad idea, but I wonder if a TF: Prime continuity nav box might be more useful here than just of WFC solo box? Since WfC is just one facet of Prime? I can see arguments either way but thought I'd bring it up. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:58, 26 July 2010 (EDT)
:I agree. In fact I had asked a similar question at [[Template_talk:Nav-wfc-game]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:06, 26 July 2010 (EDT)

== In the interests of these WFC articles being accurate... ==

Do all the generic enemies you face, weapons, locations ect in the 360/PS3/PC version of the game also appear in the Wii and DS versions? Because there's minor articles being written and linking back to this general War for Cybertron article, though it's obviously written with the 360/PS3/PC version in mind. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:54, 1 August 2010 (EDT)
:I can't speak for the Wii version, but the DS version has a different set of generic enemies and there aren't any weapon pickups. Those articles should be linking to the 360/PS3/PC article. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:13, 1 August 2010 (EDT)

== G1 ==

If it's not G1, I want anyone to explain these ''simple'' questions: Why does almost every character have G1 colors, Why do they have G1 style faces, Why do the characters look nothing like PRIME. Why would Hasbro make a game just to support a SHORT FIVE PART MINI SERIES, Why would Hasbro NOT support their most popular Transformer line, Why does most the characters have G1 Looks, Why does the Matrix look like the G1 Matrix, while Prime's looks like ROTF's Matrix. If Anybody could answer these questions, I will believe this is for Prime and not G1. [[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 05:28, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:1, 2 and 6. It's called an [[homage]]. 3. You do not need to look like something to be that something. 4. Because it's not a short five-part miniseries? 5. G1 is the most popular TF line? No, I think not. 7. See 3.
:You're from TFW2005, aren't you? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:31, 13 November 2010 (EST)

:It doesn't matter what you believe. And, uh, TFPrime is supposed to last for about four years, not five episodes. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 08:22, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:I've re-written the opening of the article a little to hopefully explain this a bit better. Not that this particular gentleman will believe it, I imagine. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:31, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:Just to thoroughly annihilate this guy's position: Scattershot isn't in G1 colors (he's in Cybertron colors) and Demolishor and Slipstream don't even have G1 versions. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:38, 13 November 2010 (EST)

:Have you guys even seen the PRIME trailer on the website. It said " The FIVE part miniseries begins November 29" I don't know where you got the about four year thing from. No, I'm not from TFW2005. Well if G1, the longest running line, isn't the most popular then what is. I know it's not the movie series because I have seen a lot of complaints about it, along with controversy. So, no, the Movie/ROTF line isn't the most popular. [[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 14:34, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::The website is only speaking of the pilot episodes. After them, the rest will air or be produced. Hasbro has made pretty clear on multiple occassions that they want to make this new continuity a big one. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:38, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::And nobody in the history of ever has complained about G1. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. "G1" didn't make the movie make eighty bajillion dollars. That was kids who weren't alive for G1, and largely not even alive for Beast Wars. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:03, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:It isn't a completely ridiculous idea. If the creators were creating a G1 story (as far as they knew), that should count for quite a bit. The story was created as G1. Hasbro can try to retcon that, but unless it is retconned in an actual story, I don't know how convincing the retcon would be, given how it doesn't really match the known modern continuity. Also, the citations given for WfC actually being in the modern continuity are not as strong as they could be.
::"If and when possible, Hasbro will try to 'stick' to one ongoing cannon, and this [War for Cybertron] could be used as a foundation for it."
::"...it looks like this [War for Cybertron] could be the start of the latest, and possibly last, Generation."
::"Continuity is non commital to one previous generation, but there is a bible at the offices that is 350 pages containing transformers lore they reference."
:"Could be...", "it looks like...", "non commital". Sounds kind of non committal to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:55, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::Hasbro outranks some sub-contracted video game studio. The game isn't in G1 and that's that. There was no AllSpark in G1, for very starters. They seem similar on purpose--"Exodus" is similar to everything. And that idea that "this could be the LAST continuity" is one of the most retarded mistakes I've ever seen any fan site have the balls to report. That shouldn't have even needed an editor--the guy writing it down should have known it couldn't possibly be true. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:45, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:::Of course it can be true! The world ends in 2012, after all. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:00, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::Starfield, just read our [[Hasbro Q&A/September 2010: Answers|own damn Q&A answers]]: "The official story of the original 13 and specifically Alpha Trion has not been explored fully in the''' modern continuity that Transformers War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are a part of'''." This grouping was spelled out in other site's answers, too. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:::Thanks. A better citation. Even so, it still isn't a ''completely'' ridiculous idea. An argument could be made from the principle of "everything is [[canon]]" that since a licensed company made a G1 story, than that G1 story is canon. Hasbro can't declare something that happened in G1 canon to have not happened in G1 canon. Like declaring Spider-Man never appeared in the Marvel comics continuity. Admittedly this is a weak argument since the [[authorial intent|authors only intended]] the story to be G1 and the story didn't declare itself G1. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:21, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::::Remember the Pat Lee Sideswipe Principle: "Authors Can Be Wrong." --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:28, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::::: What if Prime is in the same story arc as G1? --[[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 16:48, 14 November 2010 (EST)
::::::First, "story arc" doesn't mean anything that would make sense the way you are using it. Second, Prime is designed to integrate ideas from all previous TF fiction into one new storyline. This means that there are bound to be similarities to G1, Unicron Trilogy, Animated, Movieverse and many others. Third, Hasbro has said that Prime is separate from everything before. What about this do you not understand? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:13, 14 November 2010 (EST)

== Minor Error ==
I dont really know where to put this, but i play with the PC version of this game, and detected, that in the 3rd mission (Iacon Destroyed], in the "Tranquil Contemplation room", there is a huge hologram of Cybertron and it's moons n such. The Cyberglyphics explaining wich moon is wich, are upside down. I dont think its a huge mistake, just thought to mention it somewhere. I, personally laughed my head off on myself why i couldn't read them, after detecting the problem. --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 21:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Rodimus (disambiguation)

2011-06-06T19:32:02Z

Rustyscraplet: /* From Disambiguation to Disambiguation */

== From Disambiguation to Disambiguation ==

There is a "See also: Rodimus Disambiguation" link WITHIN the same page, under the text about Black Rodimus. Er.. What? - --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]], 19:49 06 June 2011 (EST)
:No, that's a "See also: Hot Rod (disambiguation). Other things can be confused with the name Hot Rod that cannot be confused with the name Rodimus. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:05, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
::Oh darn, my mistake, i'm sorry. --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]], 21:31 06 June 2011 (EST)

Talk:Rodimus (disambiguation)

2011-06-06T17:56:38Z

Rustyscraplet: New page: == From Disambiguation to Disambiguation == There is a "See also: Rodimus Disambiguation" link WITHIN the same page, under the text about Black Rodimus. Er.. What? - --[[User:Rustyscraple...

Talk:Drift (G1)

2011-05-15T10:27:40Z

Rustyscraplet:

Sorry, about not putting the spoiler warning, i'm new to this. {{unsigned|70.71.179.87|23:52, 8 April 2009}}

== Weabo? ==

What happened to the awesome weabo fancharacter header we had for this guy? {{unsigned|Dead Metal}}
:There was a big desnarking a while back. Probably got removed back then. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:01, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
::Oh man, that was the best part of the entire article.:([[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 07:42, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Can someone quote it? {{unsigned|83.24.148.159}}
::::[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Drift_%28G1%29&oldid=224223 This] is the earliest coherent version of the page in the available page history. You can also check his page on the other wiki, along with its own revision history.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:03, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::Why was the note about the similarities to the Magscinder toy removed? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:53, 13 February 2010 (EST)
::::::Because "X is similar to Y" is pointless bloat? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:33, 13 February 2010 (EST)

== Sword squiggles ==
Hi.

In the preview gallery at Seibertron, one of the [http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=125&size=2&image=21 pics] seems to offer a somewhat better look at what the symbols on the toy's larger sword are meant to be. Can anyone tell if they are kanji - akin to that on the side doors - or are they perhaps some sort of Cybertronian glyphs (i.e. not meant to mean anything in particular)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 01:47, 14 March 2010 (EST)
:The first character is [http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E4%B8%8B 下]. I can't read the other two due to glare. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:04, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, the first two characters are 天下 ''tenka'' for "descent from heaven", "the world", or "under heaven", from [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=168520#168520 here] at the IDW boards. But yeah, still can't see the last two. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Oh god, I think that might actually say 天下無双 or 天下無比.... Oh god... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:13, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>squints closer<nowiki>*</nowiki> Yanno? That might actually say 天下無双 (''tenka musō''). And it WOULD make sense. Heh. I might not be surprised if the other side of the sword said 天下無比 (''tenka muhi'')... XD --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:18, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>bangs head on wall repeatedly<nowiki>*</nowiki> --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:20, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::::Well, ''Tenka Muhi'' would be overkill, since both mean the same thing of "peerless under heaven". :D --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:24, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::::My dictionnary just translates both as "peerless, unmatched", but yeah. Epic wallbangery. The hell, Hasbro? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:32, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::::::But, "peerless under heaven" is so much more poetic! :3 --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:13, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Ah. Unlike Detour, I haven't paid any attention to the toy, so I didn't know there was another character cut off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:29, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::Well I had paid attention to the toy but certainly not enough to even notice the characters until Nerroth pointed them out. I just went looking through an online dictionary after you guys started posting the kanji you recognized. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:31, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for the help. (It's still possible that the sword's inscription is referring to itself, not its owner - or that it used to belong to someone else, before Drift started using it. Or something.)
:::::EDIT: Should a note about the translation wait until someone gets a closer look at the toy, then? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 13:42, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::::Eh, I rather wait till the toy's release to fully confirm it, since Detour *pats back* and I are going on hunches. Like the boards, "pics or it didn't happen". :) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:13, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, wait and see. It might end up saying something different after all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:32, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:There's a (slightly) clearer pic of Drift's sword [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/3/9/4/0/7/6-deluxe-gen-01_1271951485.jpg here]. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 16:51, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
::Yup. That's 天下無双! Now can we put it in? :D --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:47, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
:::As long as we go with the modern translation and not the ancient poetic translation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:52, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
::::It's not ancient! Well, just a bit literal... I like it poetic! Or would you prefer "idiomatic"? :3 --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:06, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::We should go with whatever makes the most sense for the character. Since Drift himself is poetic, I say the more idiomatic approach makes the most sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:08, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::So, any consensus on whether to go with "peerless" or "peerless under heaven"? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:40, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I vote poetic, as I'm sure that was the original intention, and also because of what Jim said. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:16, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::I dunno. When has Drift ever really been poetic? Are his smirks poetic? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:52, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Well, I'm just thinking that if we use it as I'm sure the creators intended, people can draw their own conclusions regarding whether they think it's over the top or just in keeping with the theme of the character (or both or neither). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:26, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::But the problem with playing it straight as the creator intended does not show how he fails at properly doing it, which embellishes the character and the creator rather than "let people draw their own conclusions". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:57, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::Is this just a translation issue on how best to express the Japanese idiom to English speakers? Or could the phrase actually mean different things in Japanese? (I'm not quite following the conversation.) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:39, 13 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::It's a question of idiom vs common usage. For comparison's sake, in today's world Yamamoto is basically just a Japanese surname, but going back all the way down its etymological roots, it meant "the base of the mountain". "Peerless" vs "Peerless under heaven" is essentially the same situation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:54, 14 May 2010 (EDT)
::A new [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/4/0/5/9/7/TF-Autobot-Drift-Robot_1273791941.jpg side-on shot] of the sword, among [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/hasbro-official-transformers-images-update-part-2---generations-and-power-core-combiners-169704/ other pics]. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 20:25, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== New Drift/Deadlock pics ==

[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=7556 These] were posted over at the IDW boards recently. Would they, or at least the one with what looks like Deadlock in it, be of any use here? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 13:42, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:Not right now, no, but when we get to fill out more about Deadlock, probably. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:50, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::Fair enough. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 14:01, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Well, Walky managed to find a way to make it all fit. Nice. (also, caption made me snortle) --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:46, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::::It ''is'' very convenient of him, I guess! --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 15:09, 14 March 2010 (EDT)

== Disputed car model ==

The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R Nissan GT-R] looks a LOT closer to Drift's altmode than either of the ones proposed in the toy entry. -- dvandom, August 7, 2010

== Oshite mairu! ==

Just wanted to say to whoever added the Hakumen quote for the pic showing the TakaraTomy version of Drift: thank you! (Quite an apt reference, too.) --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 01:32, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

== Deadlock ~ Dead End? ==

Did anyone notice that "Deadlock", Drift's 'Con name is the Russian Translation of [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End (G1)]]? --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 18:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
: I am 100% certain that is a coincidence. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
::Considering how [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BA Тупик actually means "Dead End"], no. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:14, 10 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for the correcting! --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 12:30, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Drift (G1)

2011-05-10T16:24:40Z

Rustyscraplet:

Talk:Magnum

2011-02-24T14:12:45Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Another Animated montage? */

== '''Another ''Animated'' montage?''' ==

I haven't seen him run around with a hammer or anything, but the line about him turning into a missile truck, coupled with his having [[Sentinel Major]] around as a <s>lackey</s>lieutenant, makes me think this guy might be more of a nod to ''Animated'' Magnus than a prior G1 iteration. Could the Magnum name be a way to avoid pre-empting the later emergence of a separate Ultra Magnus character in the ''Wings of Honor'' timeline? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:05, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
:I got the feeling from his bio that he was meant more or less as a combination of all of the Ultra Magnuses. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:21, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

Just thought i might add: In latin, Magnum is used as "Medium Big/Bigger than Normal", while Magnus means something like "Huge", wich, as i think, could refer to that UM had this name before he became an/the enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 22:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::Nope. Different cases of the same word in Latin. No difference in meaning except in context. Otherwise I like your theory though! --[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 17:10, 21 January 2011 (EST)
:::I see, thanks for the correcting, n either for the compliment! --[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 15:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Magnum

2011-02-24T14:12:03Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Another Animated montage? */

== '''Another ''Animated'' montage?''' ==

I haven't seen him run around with a hammer or anything, but the line about him turning into a missile truck, coupled with his having [[Sentinel Major]] around as a <s>lackey</s>lieutenant, makes me think this guy might be more of a nod to ''Animated'' Magnus than a prior G1 iteration. Could the Magnum name be a way to avoid pre-empting the later emergence of a separate Ultra Magnus character in the ''Wings of Honor'' timeline? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:05, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
:I got the feeling from his bio that he was meant more or less as a combination of all of the Ultra Magnuses. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:21, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

Just thought i might add: In latin, Magnum is used as "Medium Big/Bigger than Normal", while Magnus means something like "Huge", wich, as i think, could refer to that UM had this name before he became an/the enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 22:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::Nope. Different cases of the same word in Latin. No difference in meaning except in context. Otherwise I like your theory though! --[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 17:10, 21 January 2011 (EST)
:::I see, thanks for the correcting, n either for the compliment! [[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 15:09 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Magnum

2010-12-14T21:05:04Z

Rustyscraplet: /* Another Animated montage? */

User:Rustyscraplet

2010-11-12T09:41:49Z

Rustyscraplet:

A ''girl'' transformer fan artist.
:Hyperactive, yet not a big talker. And she loves robots better than humans. Touché.

On TFWiki, she fills up articles in need of images; and skipped parts in a content of a comic.

Talk:Spotlight: Mirage

2010-11-12T09:29:36Z

Rustyscraplet:

Errr...I'm a little confuzled. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 03:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. Is this the first IDW G1 comic that has almost nothing to do with the main story whatsoever? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::Second. Spotlight: Ramjet was a standalone story as well. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 13:54, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
:::But Spotlight: Ramjet actually takes place within continuity, between stories, even if it's not mentioned elsewhere. (Just like, say, Spotlight Metroplex or Wheelie.) But Spotlight Mirage still shows no connection to IDW continuity whatsoever in any known fashion. It seems to take place largely in two alternate universes distinct from the one we know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:02, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It doesn't help that the events of this are apparently a dream about an alternate universe... or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:09, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::If only we could write off AHM the same way :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 00:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

It seems to me that we should take this as it is: a dream. The best example I can think of is the episode of the Disney cartoon Gargoyles titled "Future Tense". Mirage is distraught about the fact that many autobots don't trust him, and he has a dream about what would happen if he really is the traitor they think he might be. Of course, that's just my speculated interpretation.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 23:29, 26 August 2010 (EDT)
:I agree with [[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]], i was thinking just the same that Mirage is Dreaming about his Decepticon-self, then Awakens as the Real himself, thinking about the dream.--[[User:Rustyscraplet|Rustyscraplet]] 10:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Ironhide (G1)

2010-11-12T07:35:50Z

Rustyscraplet:

{{factions|autobot|autobotg2|maximal}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}{{suite}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] and a [[Maximal]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Properly pronounced "Arn-hahhhd".]]
'''Ironhide''' is one of the oldest and toughest Autobots, and has been on [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s team for a long time. "They don't make them like they used to" is an apt description of Ironhide—he's yesterday's model, but he's built to last.

Gruff and ornery, he prefers actions to words, and dislikes talk for talk's sake. (He wouldn't enjoy being paired up with [[Bluestreak]].) But though he may be rough around the edges, he's still optimistic and upbeat. The upside to being through more than your share of trouble means trouble ain't so big a scare anymore.

Ironhide's most distinctive ability is the [[water gun]], a weapon which can generate and shoot a liquid of virtually any type. Liquid nitrogen is historically a favorite, but there have been acids, mortar, and more.

His vehicle mode sometimes splits into his robot and a [[Onebox component|separate component]].

{{quote|When are we gonna start bustin' Deceptichops?|Ironhide's version of diplomacy|''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Rhino'''
:''Hungarian name'': '''Acélfej''' ("Steel-head")
:''Hungarian name (Movie):'' '''Vasököl''' ("Ironfist")
:''Italian name'': '''Falco''' ("Hawk")
:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics):'' '''Couraça''' ("Armor")
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics):'' '''Arma-de-Ferro''' ("Iron Weapon")
:''Russian name:'' '''Bronevik''' (''Броневик'', "Armored Car")
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Tzáng Tǐeh''' (藏鐵, "Iron hiding")

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Ironhideg1firstappearance.jpg|left|150px|thumb|HAY GUYS CAN I HAVE A CHARACTER MODEL PLEASE KTHANX]]
Four million years ago, when the war was still young, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] fought an uphill battle against the Decepticons. Ironhide was beside him when Optimus Prime, despite being wounded, refused to raise the white flag, and due to their courage, the tide of the war was turned. {{storylink|Surrender!}}

Ironhide was chosen to join the [[Ark (G1)|Ark ]] mission to save Cybertron from an asteroid belt—a mission that saw him stranded on [[Earth]] for four million years. Upon reactivation in [[1984]], Ironhide immediately began bickering with [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} [[Image:Ironhidehufferlaststand.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Phew. There we go.]] This rivalry continued when it was discovered that the [[human]] [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] had created useable fuel for the Decepticons during his kidnapping. Huffer demanded Sparkplug pay for his treason, while Ironhide suggested sympathy. However, this argument only provided a distraction for Sparkplug and his son, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] to escape; this attempt was aborted when Sparkplug suffered a heart attack. Soon, the Decepticons, fully refueled, came for the Ark, and Ironhide was one of just five Autobots selected to fight the invasion, using pooled fuel from his comrades. Their near-victory was robbed from them when [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived, surprising everyone, and blasted the surviving Autobots into spare parts. {{storylink|The Last Stand}}

Ironhide was next seen being hung from the ceiling of the Ark, prepared by Shockwave to be used as spare parts for the next generation of Decepticons. {{storylink|The New Order}} [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], the only surviving Autobot, returned to the Ark in secret to see this for himself; indeed, Ironhide and the others still hung deactivated. {{storylink|Warrior School!}} Ratchet managed to re-secure the Ark, and Ironhide was subsequently rebuilt. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} Ironhide would be one of the first Autobots to battle the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] when his team attempted to destroy a transmission from [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to his Decepticon comrades back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|The Next Best Thing to Being There!}} Ironhide also suffered damage at the hands of a Decepticon-controlled [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] body shortly before their fallen leader was restored to them. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}

[[Image:Ironhidetarget2006.jpg|left|150px|thumb|When Ironhide's in charge, he nominates Megatron to take over. Scary, huh?]]
''Once repaired, he worked alongside [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] in the Dinobot Hunt, initially distrusting and clashing with him because of his Decepticon origins. He learnt to trust him during the mission.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}} ''He at one point broke protocol to single-handedly break a [[Greater glory terrorist|terrorist]] siege in [[Los Angeles]], only to become frustrated when the police almost ruined it.'' {{storylink|Perchance to Dream}} ''Later on, he would be dispatched as a bodyguard for [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] to prevent any reprisal attacks from the Decepticons—he had a more successful rematch against the Constructicons, and was also happily introduced to the wonders of demolition derbies.'' {{storylink|Devastation Derby!}}

''When the time-travelling [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] arrived in 1986 and Optimus Prime, Ratchet, and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] were both lost in [[Limbo]], Ironhide was one of the Autobots who battled the Decepticon. It went so poorly that the beaten and humiliated Ironhide was desperate enough to salvage the similarly-defeated [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to temporarily take command of the Autobots.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

Ironhide would go on to fight against [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s forces on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] shortly before the crews of the Ark and the ''Steelhaven'' joined under one banner. {{storylink|Totaled!}} ''He was also briefly seen fighting alongside the Transformers of two eras against Galvatron during the Time Wars.'' {{storylink|Time Wars (issue)|Time Wars}}

Although not explicitly named as being among those who were taken offline by the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], Ironhide probably fell victim to this fate since, when he was next heard from, he was offline in a stasis aboard the Ark. In [[1990]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] revived him and all the other invalid Autobots with [[Nucleon]] in time to participate in the climactic battle with [[Unicron]] on Cybertron. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}} Shortly after the planet-eater's destruction, Ironhide was seen loading supplies onto one of the ships the Autobots were about to use to depart Cybertron. {{storylink|A Savage Circle}}
{{-}}

=====Earthforce=====
{{earthforcefiction}}
''While in stasis aboard the Ark, Ironhide was hacked into by an alternate [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]], who was looking for potential soldiers with dark sides he could corrupt. As a result, Ironhide was reactivated and helped stop Galvatron.'' {{storylink|Perchance to Dream}} ''He went on to be a founding member of [[Earthforce]], fighting against Megatron and Shockwave's rival Decepticon armies.'' {{storylink|Break-Away!}}

''In his first mission, alongside [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], he used his knowledge of Decepticon [[automated defense ring]]s & riddles to get into a Decepticon facility and end their attempts at creating a new [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]].'' {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}} ''Later, he was present at the Decepticon [[Enclave]], and came up with a devious plan to stop Megatron & Shockwave from uniting their two factions. Knocking out [[Headstrong]] and using him as a patsy, Ironhide and the other Autobots faked a sniper attack on Megatron, prompting the Decepticons to shoot back at the rock cropping where they were hiding. The Autobots then dropped Headstrong off the ledge as if he'd been hit, framing him and Shockwave's army for trying to assassinate Megatron. The Enclave quickly turned into a [[Ruckus (G1)|ruckus]]. A [[Brawl (G1)|brawl]]. A [[Mixmaster (G1)|mixmas]]—no, wait. That one doesn't work.'' {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}

''Ironhide also joined Earthforce and the [[Survivors]] in taking down the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}} While fighting to protect Starscream from Decepticon assassins, in order to get a systems boost for [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]'s fading health, Ironhide had to fight against Megatron. He took several hits from the [[fusion cannon]], going down and leaving the fight to the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]].'' {{storylink|The Lesser Evil}} ''Perhaps looking to sharpen his skills, Ironhide was next seen working out with Jazz in the Combat Room against a robot drone.'' {{storylink|Front Line!}}

=====''Another Time and Place''=====
Ironhide was part of a commando unit sent to [[Hydrus Four]] after the Dinobots. He and a small group of Autobots surprised [[Fangry]] and tore him limb from limb. {{storylink|Another Time and Place}}

====Generation 2====
When Optimus Prime and Grimlock discovered the threat of the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], they called in Autobots scattered across the galaxy, including Ironhide. And, when Grimlock chose to disobey Prime's directives and make a tactical first strike against [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s ships, Ironhide went with him. They were quickly found out and captured, though, leaving it to Optimus to bail them out of trouble. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}

Later, when Prime had the brilliant idea that Megatron would be willing to "just talk" after laying waste to much of the planet Earth, Ironhide joined the rescue party Grimlock threw together to bail him out. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} He was also involved in the defense of [[Ethos]]. Ironhide took several shots to the chest while protecting that world, and was apparently killed. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

====''Classics''====
Ironhide came to Earth, along with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], to bolster Optimus Prime's forces as Megatron began reassembling his army. Ironhide was seen defending a human settlement from the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] as Megatron and the captive Ratchet watched on. {{storylink|At Fight's End}}

===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Show Hayami]] (Japanese), [[Francis Lax]] (French), [[Pierluigi Astore]] (Italian, second dub), [[André Luiz Chapéu]] (Brazil)
[[Image:Mtmte1_ironhide_mans_laser.jpg|left|thumb|220px]]

Ironhide was part of the bridge crew of the [[Ark (G1)|Autobots' spacecraft]] when it embarked on its fateful voyage to seek out new sources of energy beyond [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] four million years ago. When the ship was caught in a meteor shower, Ironhide was flung into a console and began leaking lubricants from a wound in his shoulder, but he quickly recovered and leaped to man the craft's laser gun, blasting a path through the asteroids. No sooner had the Autobots made it to safety, however, than their ship was attacked and boarded by Decepticons in mid-flight. Ironhide struck a dirty blow against [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], sneaking up behind the Decepticon communications officer while he was fighting a trio of other Autobots and downing him with a flying kick to his back. As the battle raged, the ship was caught in the gravity of the nearby prehistoric [[Earth]] and crashed, knocking all the Transformers aboard offline.

In 1984, a volcanic eruption awakened the dormant Transformers, and Ironhide was reformatted by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] with the [[alternate mode]] of a terrestrial Nissan van. In addition to his role in maintaining the security of the Autobot headquarters on Earth, Ironhide would embark on numerous missions to stop the Decepticons on their energy-raiding strikes around the planet, starting with a battle on an offshore oil rig during which he and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] duelled with metal pipes. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

[[Image:Mtmte2_ironhide_diverting_river.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]

Soon after, when the Decepticons churned the currents of the river blocked by [[Sherman Dam]] to raise its energy output, Ironhide quelled the resultant tidal wave with the help of [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], using his built-in laser cannon in van mode to cut a new series of tributaries for the raging river to flow into. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

[[Image:Mtmte3_ironhide_flies.jpg|left|thumb|220px|Ironhide auditions for the part of elpheba]]

Later, when the Decepticons escaped being buried in the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma|Burma ruby mines]], a furious Ironhide took to the air in pursuit. Prime fruitlessly tried to call him back, and [[Bluestreak]] took off after Ol' Red to talk him out of any rash action. Still, Ironhide did manage to score a rocket strike against [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], but that only earned him a similar strike in return, thanks to the Decepticon's teleporting ability. Ironhide crash-landed into a lake, where he suffered back-end damage to his linkages. The immobilized Ironhide was fished out of the lake by Bluestreak and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], and he recovered under the ministrations of Doc [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. He was hale and hearty enough to take part in the final strike on the Decepticon space cruiser. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

After the Decepticons resurfaced, Ironhide joined a team of Autobots to confront them at the solar power station. During the battle, he took a heavy hit shielding [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] from a blast from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s gun mode, but pulled through the damage he took to his terminal just fine. He then took part in a rescue mission for [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]], who was caught snooping around the new [[space bridge]]. When [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] started popping out cassettes left and right, Ironhide did the rare but logical thing and grabbed the Decepticon's arm to keep him from pushing his eject button. While those two were struggling, however, Megatron took aim to finish the job he started earlier at the power station. Prime returned the favor, though, knocking his bodyguard buddy out of the line of fire.{{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}} During the battle for the [[antimatter]] formula, Ironhide was caught in the blast of one of the explosive cubes but, as always, Ratchet managed to piece him back together. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

[[Image:Divandconq_liquid_nitrogen.jpg|right|thumb|220px|Get your mind out of the gutter reader!]]

While Optimus Prime was out scouting for the Decepticon space bridge, the Autobots received reports of a Decepticon attack at the power plant. Ironhide led a squad to rendezvous with Prime at the plant, but they arrived too late—Optimus had already suffered serious damage while trying to battle four Decepticons and keep the humans safe at the same time. After Ratchet and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] determined Prime needed a new [[cosmotron]] from Cybertron to survive, Ironhide led the team to recover the missing part. With [[Chip Chase]] in tow, he, Bluestreak, [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], and Bumblebee hijacked the Decepticon space bridge and made their way to Cybertron. Ironhide even got to put the quick freeze on [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] with his liquid nitrogen spray. Once they got to Cybertron, Ironhide again used liquid nitrogen to blast their way out of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s lair, only this time he...grabbed a spray nozzle off the wall? Apparently he didn't have enough freezy stuff for two blasts. Braving [[acid rain]], Ironhide's team recovered the cosmotron and returned to Earth in time to save Prime's life. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

[[Image:Sosdinos sonadar sensors.jpg|left|thumb|350px]]

Next, Ironhide joined the Autobots on a trip to the Arctic Circle, to prevent the Decepticons from draining the heat energy out of Earth's core. Ironhide and some buddies got separated from the others, and met up with the Decepticons first. They were taken off-guard by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and Skywarp, and would have been executed by Starscream without [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]'s holograms. The new Decepticon [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] was blasted while trying to stop their execution, and so Ironhide brought him back to Ratchet for repairs. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}} When [[Ark (G1)#Autobot Headquarters|Autobot Headquarters]] started tremoring again, Ironhide suspecting it to be the work of [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] until his [[sonadar]] sensors located a hidden cavern inside the volcano itself. The dinosaur bones discovered in the cave inspired the creation of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s, who saved Ironhide and the other Autobots when they were beaten by the Decepticons in a battle at the [[Great Falls]]. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

During an assault on the Incan temple, Ironhide was shot by the [[Crystal of Power]] energy weapon during his first charge up the temple steps. After the second charge, he made it to the top, tackled Megatron, and pounded him in the face. Megatron overpowered Ironhide and threw him off the temple, right into the waiting arms of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}}

As a dangerous meteorite hit Earth, Ironhide once again demonstrated his selflessness when he saved Chip and Spike from a rain of meteorite debris. Later, Ironhide helped in the construction of two new Dinobots, [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], and then tried to fight them during the first test of their abilities. His attempt to overpower Snarl by hanging on to his tail was not successful. Outsmarted by a dino-dodo...how embarassing. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

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When Rumble infiltrated Autobot Headquarters to cause some tremors, Ironhide showed off another of his many sensors by plugging a seismograph into the ground to pinpoint the junk-punk's location. Later, he joined the Autobots as they attempted to stop a massive space bridge from bringing Cybertron into Earth's orbit, but failed. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} Ironhide comforted Optimus Prime after the battle, telling him he had done all he could do. When [[Mount St. Hilary|the Autobots' volcano]] erupted due to Cybertron’s proximity to Earth, they had to evacuate their base, but once they had done so, Ironhide turned right around and drove back inside looking for the volcano's off-switch. He plugged the eruption by causing an avalanche in the core with his laser rifle. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} Ironhide later surfed into battle against the Decepticons, but the resulting tidal wave allowed Megatron to escape before the fight even started. A small contingent of Autobots eventually tracked the Decepticon energon shuttle to a tropical coast, and engaged them in battle. The fully charged Decepticons soon began to overpower the Autobots, however, driving them back to the safety of some convenient trenches. Ironhide and Prowl both advocated regrouping and reinforcements to Prime, but luckily Skyfire soon arrived with a team of Autobots from Cybertron to even the odds. Cybertron was pushed out of Earth's orbit, and the planet was saved. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} Hunting down the Decepticons after the destruction, Ironhide and the Autobots were led into the Valley of No Return, and were caught in quicksand. Ironhide used his liquid nitrogen spray to freeze the sand solid, stopping the sinking and letting the Autobots climb out to safety. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

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After hearing about giant robot insects running amok in Bali, Ironhide and the Autobots drove down to investigate. This led to a battle with the Decepticons and [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s at an oil refinery. Once Thundercracker set fire to some of the oil, Ironhide used his fire retardant spray to keep the whole place from going up in flames. {{storylink|A Plague of Insecticons}} Soon after, Ironhide's security signals alerted him to Megatron's imminent arrival at the Ark. Surprisingly, the Decepticon leader was there to talk, not to fight. He suggested a trial by combat between himself and Optimus Prime for control of the Earth, and Prime agreed. Unbeknownst to the Autobots, Megatron rigged the deck in his favor by hording the [[power chip rectifier]]s of his fellow Decepticons. Prime inevitably fell before the combined might of the entire Decepticon army. Ironhide was ready to strike back at the Decepticons anyway, regardless of their agreement, but Optimus decreed that personal honor and Cybertron law mandated that they respect the agreement. Smashin' Decepti-creeps is hardwired into his programming, though, and Ironhide again attempted to violate the law when he saw the Dinobots engaged in battle with [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. No 'Bot was happier than Ironhide when Teletraan I uncovered Megatron's cheating ways, giving the Autobots a reason to ignore the agreement with him, and strike back. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

When [[Autobot X]] went berserk, Ironhide vowed to teach the pile of parts some manners. With the help of Prowl and Trailbreaker, Ironhide put the mismatched robot down by force using his "water gun". Later, during battle at the Air Force rocket base, Spike was targeted by Megatron and injured by a [[fusion cannon]] blast. Ironhide pulled Spike from Bumblebee’s damaged form and put him inside Ratchet for transport to the hospital. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}}

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As the Autobots rushed to answer a distress call, [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] was squawking about his squeaking. Ironhide stopped for a moment to remind Gears of his personal credo, "Action first, maintenance later." Later on, in Africa and out of options, Optimus volunteered himself to penetrate the force field around Megatron's solar needle. Ironhide volunteered to go in Prime’s place, declaring himself to be more expendable than the Autobot leader. He later called Megatron a "monster" for changing Gears’ personality from a cranky hypochondriac into a happy-go-lucky pushover. Apparently, Ironhide knows the value of a good grumbling. {{storylink|Changing Gears}}

When the Decepticons hit New York, Ironhide was part of the team that found Optimus Prime’s missing arm and weapon on top of the rebuilt [[Empire State Building]]. Ironhide used a grappling hook inside his arm so he, Prime, and Ratchet could scale the outside of the building. Devastator swatted Ironhide and Ratchet into the building interior, and the duo used the opportunity to shoot out the floor under Megatron and Soundwave. When Optimus and Devastator fell and were plummeting to the ground, Ironhide saved Prime from hitting the pavement. {{storylink|City of Steel}} Ironhide also aided the Autobots in the search for the missing [[electro-cell]]s. {{storylink|Traitor}}

[[Image:TheImmobilizer Ironhide firingwildly.jpg|left|220px|thumb|"Ah'm here fer laser fire an' bubble gum, and ah'm plum outta bubble gum!"]]

One day, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] planned a demonstration for his latest gadget, the [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer|Immobilizer]], with Hound's holographic copy of Laserbeak as the guinea pig. Unfortunately, Ironhide showed up late to the demo, saw Laserbeak, and immediately started blasting away at the "intruder". He very nearly buried Wheeljack alive in debris, and took a serious blow to his confidence as a result. Ironhide was assigned guard duty while the rest of the Autobots tested the Immobilizer a safe distance away from the Ark. Distracted by a visit from [[Carly]], Ironhide soon learned that the Decepticons had ambushed Optimus Prime and the Autobots while his guard was down. He tried to intervene but, despite his best efforts, the Decepticons stole the Immobilizer right out of Ironhide's grasp. Blaming himself, Ironhide resigned from active duty, a resignation Prime accepted with some trepidation. While still "retired" Ironhide swam down to Decepticon headquarters to rescue the captured Carly, was immobilized, then re-mobilized, recovered the Immobilizer from Megatron, helped save the Autobots, then destroyed the device. His request to be put on active duty again was wholeheartedly received by his friends. Ironhide, together with [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]], proudly watched as Spike went on a date with Carly. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}

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Spike and Chip suggested the Autobots participate in a race for charity, and Ironhide voiced his approval of the idea. He and Trailbreaker got to compete to see which of them was bigger and slower. During the race, he and the other Autobots were subjected to Megatron’s [[Transfixatron]] and were trapped in vehicle mode. Taken prisoner by Megatron, Ironhide was the first to be subjected to a crushing machine built by the Constructicons, but he was saved when Optimus Prime rammed it. After the Transfixatron effect was reversed, Ironhide and Trailbreaker pounded the device into pieces. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}} Ironhide was part of the Autobot strike unit dispatched to [[Washington, D.C.]] when it came under attack by the Decepticons and [[Sub-Atlantica]]ns. He kept clear of the main battle on the Great Lawn, but later helped repair the damage done to the city. He and Ratchet reattached the statue of Lincoln to the memorial, after Megatron had removed it to use the throne. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}

[[Image:Dotm_ironhide_pull_my_finger.jpg|thumb|left|220px|"Pull mah finger!"]]

Next, the Autobots responded to an SOS when the super-computer called [[TORQ III]] ran amok. Unfortunately, they discovered Torq was capable of controlling other simple machines in the area, and so Ironhide and the others found themselves facing a horde of angry droids. Ironhide apparently didn't think much of the threat—he calmly walked up to a droid firing a highly pressurized spray at his chest and stuck his finger in the hose. The pent up pressure blew out the back of the machine, destroying it completely. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}} Ironhide was on the scene for the unveiling of [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]], [[Doctor Fujiyama the Famous Scientist|Doctor Fujiyama]]'s new ninja robot, when the Decepticons attacked. He was trying to shoot down Laserbeak when a stray blast dropped some girders on his backside. His injuries left him inactive during the search for Nightbird. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

Ironhide's experience and wisdom often came in handy. After Optimus Prime mistakenly called him "Bumblebee", and a second Optimus Prime showed up on the Autobots' doorstep, it was Ironhide who thought twice about his orders to obliterate the new Prime on sight. When the Autobots' tests proved inconclusive, Ironhide also assumed full command of the team, overruling BOTH Primes until they could prove their veracity. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}

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Faced with the threat of a Decepticon deep-drilling scheme and its nigh-unbeatable sentry, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], the Autobots orchestrated a plan to take control of the mighty gestalt by placing [[dominator disc]]s on each of his Constructicon components. Ironhide helped arrange a diversion at the Decepticons' temporary drilling base in order to draw the Constructicons out. He used a liquid nitrogen spray to freeze the waterfall the Constructicons were using as a natural coolant for their drill. {{storylink|The Core}} Ironhide accompanied Prime and the other Autobots to the [[Nova Power Plant]], where they attempted to stop the Insecticons from lunching on the nova power. They failed. A high-voltage blast from the hyper-charged [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] nearly overloaded Ironhide's circuits. [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] sprayed the still-sparking Ironhide with insulating foam and loaded him into the back of Prime's trailer. He was brought back to Ratchet at Autobot Headquarters for repairs. Ironhide recovered enough to join the Autobots in the final battle with the augmented Insecticons at [[Iron Mountain]]. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}}

Ironhide was normally good-natured, but even he couldn't stand [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s taste in music. It almost made him lose his temper with the Dinobots during their "training". Lucky for him, Prime kept Ironhide from leaping headfirst into a fray he couldn't get himself out of. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} When a chronal disturbance opened up near the library, Ironhide joined the Autobots in investigating. They found a horde of woolly mammoths and barbarians parading down Main Street. Ironhide corralled some of the barbarians with an adhesive spray, then helped send all the mammoths back into the time warp before it closed. He also joined the Autobots in driving the Decepticons off of [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], ending the source of the time warps. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

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Ironhide battled Devastator once again after the Constructicons tricked [[Grapple]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] into helping them build a [[Solar Power Tower]]. {{storylink|The Master Builders}} Next, Ironhide worked with [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] and Wheeljack on the [[Negavator]] project, designing a new super-weapon for use against the Decepticons. The project bunker soon came under attack by Soundwave and his entire Cassette army. Although they failed to grab the Negavator, Optimus decided the weapon needed to be moved. This gave the Decepticons another shot at the Negavator, though, and Ironhide was buried with Prime under an avalanche triggered by Rumble's pile drivers. They had to be dug out by Grapple and Hoist. When it became clear their security expert, Red Alert, was malfunctioning, the Autobots tried to confront him, but he ran away into the nearest city. Ironhide inadvertently assaulted a real fire chief's car while looking for his buddy. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}}

Being the old fogey that he is, Ironhide burned out one of his memory chips and suffered some mild amnesia. He relied on [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] to repair the broken chip and get the ol' noggin processing again. He soon joined the Autobots in South America to fight Megatron for the [[Heart of Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Microbots}}

Ironhide could be a hothead at times. Duped by Megatron’s hoax, [[Shawn Berger]] brought his private army to arrest the Autobots. Ironhide was ready to trash tanks, but Optimus Prime stopped him and surrendered to the humans—a move with which Ironhide did not agree. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} Later, when humans banned the Autobots from Earth for crimes they didn't commit, the Autobots ended up on a spaceship heading to parts unknown. Ironhide blamed Optimus Prime for their predicament and almost led a mutiny. Prime changed his mind shortly thereafter, so the question of whether Ironhide would have actually tried to overthrow Optimus was rendered academic. They returned to Earth to disrupt the illusion of Megatron's little scheme and, as Ironhide put it, "show 'em a little reality." Several hundred laser-charged rounds of reality later, the Decepticons staggered away in defeat, and the Autobots' reputations were restored. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

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Evidently, Ironhide doesn’t pay close attention to his passengers, since both Soundwave and Ravage once hid inside him. Maybe he was taking a nap. He only realized the subterfuge when Blaster and Ravage started fighting in his back end. Later, Ironhide gave Jazz a literal kick start when [[cybertonium]] depletion kept Jazz from transforming. The effects of the depletion affected Ironhide himself during the next fight as he tried to shoot liquid nitrogen at the Decepticons. When his hand wouldn’t retract, Ironhide froze himself solid. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} The lack of cybertonium left the Autobots virtually lifeless, but Ironhide and his friends were eventually revived when Spike, Carly and the Dinobots brought back a full stock of cybertonium from Cybertron. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

Ironhide got another dose of Blaster's music being piped through by Teletraan 1. The serenade was worse than the first, and the Autobots nearly missed a distress call because of it. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} He was among the Autobots temporarily rendered invulnerable by [[electrum]], and fought the Decepticons for control of the golden lagoon. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} He also helped stop Megatron from taking over New York City with an army of robot car drones. {{storylink|Make Tracks}} Ironhide went with Prime and a group of Autobots to the baseball stadium where the Decepticons were interrupting the game with their new space bridge. He got a grand slam with a stadium lighting pole against [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]. When Prime and several other Autobots were launched into space by the malfunctioning bridge, Ironhide took command of the Autobots until Optimus managed to find his way back. {{storylink|Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play}}

[[Image:TheSearchforAlphaTrion Ironhide acidblasts.jpg|left|220px|thumb|"An internal liquid chemical factory, and I'm shootin' TANG?!"]]

When the [[Morphobot]]s took root on Earth, Ironhide and the team attempted to free their comrade [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] from behind the plants' indestructible vines. Ironhide tried a variety of liquid sprays on the Morphobots—the plants briefly crusted over, but cracked free from the chemical resin a moment later. After the Autobots discovered the plants were repelled by Blaster's music, he and Ironhide worked together to clear a path to Cosmos. Once the plants pushed back from Blaster, Ironhide used liquid nitrogen to hold them frozen in place long enough to free their friend. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}

Ironhide led [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] in protecting [[San Francisco]] when it was being attacked by a [[Asteroid bird alien|giant alien creature]]. Although severely outmatched, they held out long enough for [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] to arrive and lead the alien back out into space. {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme}} When the Decepticons began squabbling amongst themselves for leadership, Ironhide was ready to jump right into the thick of things. Optimus restrained him, however; instead Prime pitted Megatron against the also-rans, leading to a disastrous fight that left all the Decepticons spent. Even Ironhide had to admit it was fun watching the Decepticons beat themselves up for a change. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}} After [[Lord Chumley]] began swiping Autobots off the street, Ironhide was present when the big game hunter declared his terms to Optimus Prime over Teletraan I. {{storylink|Prime Target}}

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Ironhide led [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] to Cybertron to follow and find Optimus Prime after he left, without telling anyone, to rescue [[Elita One]]. When his team arrived via the [[space bridge]], Starscream announced that he had killed Prime by melting him down in a vat of acid. Ironhide angrily ordered the Autobots to attack and avenge their fallen leader. During the battle, they met up with Elita One's [[Female Autobots|squad]], which gave Ironhide a chance to reunite with his old gal [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]]. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} He was briefly seen at Sparkplug's garage after Powerglide's adventure with [[Astoria Carlton-Ritz]]. {{storylink|The Girl Who Loved Powerglide}}

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When Megatron took his new [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] group to Cybertron in the hopes of giving them life, Ironhide was among the Autobots who went after them in Omega Supreme. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} When they failed to stop Megatron, the Autobots instead decided to counter him, creating a team of Autobot Jets known as the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] through the power of [[Vector Sigma]]. Unfortunately, the Aerialbots were, well...''jerks''. [[Slingshot]] in particular rubbed Ironhide the wrong way, after the Aerialbots "saved" the Autobots by intervening during their first battle with the Stunticons. The Aerialbots eventually learned their lesson, and Ironhide made peace with Slingshot. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}} Then they were jerks again. Once again, Ironhide was at odds with the little twerps, as they sat in awe of the Decepticons for their ace flying abilities. The Aerialbots learned their lesson (again), and Ironhide made peace with the punks...again. It seemed to stick this time. {{storylink|War Dawn}}

Ironhide was grumbling about the Stunticons during an appointment with Ratchet when those psychos turned up for real on Teletraan I's sensors. After the Autobots captured the Stunticons in the field, Prime had an idea to disguise themselves as the Stunticons using [[camouflage paint]] in order to infiltrate the Decepticons. Ironhide and several others stayed behind to keep an eye on the prisoners, but [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] soon shattered the bars and freed his fellow Stunticons, who then sent the Autobots packing as [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. Ironhide and the Autobots chased after Menasor to warn Prime that the jig was up, and they ended up arriving at the battle just in time to drive off the Decepticons. {{storylink|Masquerade}} Ironhide was also seen applying [[Corrostop]] to the [[Statue of Liberty]], and later helped rescue Perceptor from Fox Creek Canyon. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

[[Image:TFTM Ironhide dies.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Megatron prepares to kitbash a toy-accurate Ironhide.]]

When Jazz and Cliffjumper were kidnapped by Starscream's [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], Ironhide traveled to the Amalgamated Water & Power Plant with the other Autobots to rescue them. Wisely, the Autobots completely avoided the war between the Decepticons and Combaticons taking place immediately to their left—they just grabbed their pals and split. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}} After the Autobots received a curious SOS from [[Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School]], Ironhide, [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and Bumblebee responded. They discovered a science project gone awry—a [[B.O.T. (robot)|homemade robot]] brought to life using the personality component of the Combaticon named [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]. The Autobots seriously underestimated their opponent, and Ironhide ended up sunk in the floor thanks to his own corrosive spray. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

In the year 2005, Ironhide was stationed on [[Moonbase One]] as part of the Autobots' ongoing mission to retake Cybertron. Unfortunately for the action-oriented Ironhide, Optimus Prime felt the Autobots needed more time to gather forces and supplies before attempting to retake their home planet. He sent Ironhide on a shuttle along with a group of other Autobots headed for Earth, bringing energon to [[Autobot City]]. When the shuttle was attacked by a Decepticon strike force en route, Ironhide bravely fought back against the hijackers, but was not powerful enough to drive off the numerous foes. He was shot several times before going down, but was still determined to defeat the enemy by whatever means possible. Lacking the power to stand on his own, Ironhide crawled to Megatron's feet in a vain attempt to continue fighting. He was mercilessly executed by Megatron's fusion cannon at point blank range, for indulging in "heroic nonsense". {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

Ironhide's grave was later mentioned aboard the interstellar [[Autobot Mausoleum]] amongst those of the other Autobots who died during the [[Battle of Autobot City|attack]] on [[Autobot City]]. Along with the mausoleum itself, Ironhide's remains were later plunged into a red sun as a side-effect of a [[Quintesson]] plot. {{storylink|Dark Awakening}}
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====

While the Autobots were busy defending [[Ark (G1)|Autobot headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack in [[Arizona]], they realized that [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was not present and likely loose in Japan. Ironhide was dispatched to track down the villain, though the lone [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] found him first. Bumblebee defeated Soundwave with his mighty "Bumble Kick" just as Ironhide and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] arrived to back him up. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}}

=====Scramble City: Mobilization=====

In their efforts to defend Earth against the Decepticons, the Autobots began construction of a massive defense base named Metroplex, codenamed: [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]]. When Decepticon spies uncovered the existence of the Scramble City project, however, several Decepticon squads were sent by Megatron to eliminate the potential threat to his reign. Under Optimus Prime's command, Ironhide joined [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] in setting out to intercept these Decepticons, allowing [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s to complete work on Scramble City. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}

=====Full Throttle Scramble Power!=====

Ironhide was one of dozens of Autobots who arrived with Scramble City to help [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s against Megatron's forces. {{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

=====''The Stargate Battles''=====

Ironhide and a squad of Autobots travelled into space aboard [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] when Megatron assumed control of the "[[Warp Gate|Trigger]]" teleportation platform the Autobots helped humanity construct. {{storylink|First Contact}}

Ironhide and his comrades later returned to the Trigger when Starscream and his Ghost from Another Future Dimension (can't make this slag up...) commandeered it. The battle was epic in scope, as the Starscreams united with the Trigger to make it into a massive transforming exo-frame. He(they?) also assumed command of the [[C-X]] drones and turned them against the Autobots, and Ironhide was the first to feel the sting of their betrayal...and energy blasts. The Autobots' human ally, [[Makoto (FSRL)|Makoto]], used his knowledge of the Trigger to disrupt Starscream new form. The fiend then threw Makoto's lifepod into Earth's atmosphere, leaving him to burn up on re-entry. Ironhide and Bumblebee tried to reach the pod, but were too slow. Luckily, Optimus Prime arrived late to the battle and saved Makoto from burning up. {{storylink|The Stargate Battles (issue)|The Stargate Battles}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
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Some time before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Ironhide briefly engaged the Decepticons with his comrades. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} In 2011, a robot resembling Ironhide was seen amongst the crowds of Autobots going about their daily business in [[Autobot City]]. Given that Ironhide was dead by that point, though, it ''prrrrooobably'' wasn't him. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

{{note|Ironhide's revival is probably one of those "WTF?" errors that happened in the Japanese series as a result of [[The Transformers: The Movie|the movie]] not reaching Japan until many years later.}}

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=====e-Hobby comics=====
Then again, Ironhide was looking pretty sprightly several decades later when he attended Optimus Prime's briefing on a series of attacks on human shipping vessels by biomechanical creatures believed to be connected to the Decepticons, so maybe he's okay after all! When Prime expressed concern over the use of an [[Eldedroid]] controlled by the mind of the human, [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Dan]], in the mission to investigate the creatures, Ironhide told him he didn't need to be so pessimistic. {{storylink|MP-1B Cybertron Commander / Convoy Black Ver.}}

{{note|Ironhide wouldn't be the [[Prowl (G1)|only]] [[Wheeljack (G1)|character]] to have died in the movie who later reappeared in Japanese fiction. The storyline of ''[[Story of Binaltech|Binaltech]]'' introduced the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to explain these "resurrections", and may be the reason for Ironhide's continued existence. His appearance in this comic came several years after the ''Binaltech'' story was written, though, so he was not referred to by name in ''Binaltech'' as there was nothing to explain away at the time.}}

===Transformers in 3-D===
[[Image:TFin3D2 Ironhide rips through wall.jpg|thumb|right|200px|There's a door just to your left, Ironhide.]]
When a distress call from [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] reached [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Ironhide set off to find out why the small Autobot was so far from his assigned area. This lead him to the planet [[Andellor]], to which Cosmos had traveled in search of the [[Prism of Power]]. Ironhide first managed to dispatch [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] without breaking a sweat, before he, Cosmos, and the five children who needed the Prism, encountered [[Grogg]], guardian of the ancient artifact. Though Ironhide pleaded with Grogg that they needed the Prism, Grogg insisted they answer his riddle or die. After one of the children answered the riddle, Ironhide returned with Cosmos and the children to the [[Exton-9]] space station and defeated [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] in battle.{{storylink|Transformers in 3-D issue 2|Transformers in 3-D #2}}
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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Before the war, Ironhide was a construction engineer, working on the bridges that connected cybertron's city states.
When war broke out, he joined [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s commando unit, along with [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], when they attempted to defend [[Altihex]] against the Decepticons. Though Altihex was lost, the unit survived to attend [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s inauguration. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1}} He took part in the preparations for the evacuation of Cybertron at the [[Central Spaceport]], despite expressing his disagreement to [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] about the new Prime's decision. The pair subsequently observed Grimlock's even greater dissatisfaction and the Dinobot stormed off. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2}} During a Decepticon attack, he and the rest of the unit met Grimlock on the [[Tri-Torus Loop]], only to be surprised by Grimlock's decision to leave [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] to the foe. Instead they traveled to the crater of the [[Forum of Enlightenment]] to look for Optimus. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4}}

Underground, Ironhide's sensors led the group to find a [[planetary engine turbine]]. Grimlock ordered him, Kup and Wheeljack to shut it down. The trio listened in on [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s plans, but were discovered by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5}} Ironhide and Kup worked to fight the Constructicons off, becoming pinned down until Grimlock arrived to lend a hand with Optimus. They kept the Decepticons distracted long enough for Wheeljack to take out the planetary engines. Though Ironhide expected Optimus to resume the evacation, Prime announced they were staying. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6}}

After Prime was lost through a space bridge, and the Cybertronians fell into even more factions, Ironhide became a part of Grimlock's [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. During an attempt by Starscream's forces to seize a couple of transporters full of energon, Ironhide and Wheeljack were able to board and fly off in the transporters while the rest of the team kept Starscream busy. {{storylink|Fragmentation}}

He was part of the ''Ark'''s original crew four million years ago, and awoke with the rest of them in 1984. After the crash of the ''[[Ark II]]'', however, Ironhide was among the Transformers secretly acquired by [[Lazarus]] as a potential weapon of mass destruction for sale. He was tortured and heavily damaged by the Decepticons when they broke Lazarus' control over them, and was unable to immediately aid Prime and the others against Megatron. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4}}

''When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] returned from an alien world with the malevolent [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] in tow, Ironhide was one of the first Autobots who joined them in the fight against the invaders. The Keepers had taken residence in [[Las Vegas]], Nevada, and a united force of Autobots and Decepticons descended on the city in the hopes of stopping the aliens before the United States government unleashed a nuclear strike. When Optimus Prime used an energon pool to supercharge himself and the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], Ironhide and the other Autobots joined their own energon with Prime to enhance his efforts. Through their combined energies, the nuclear missile was averted and the Keepers were displaced into the Void. {{storylink|Annihilation}}''

''After the battle, Optimus Prime was forced by a debt of honor to hand over the Matrix to Megatron, a decision which didn't sit well with many of the Autobots. Ironhide did his best to defend his leader's actions against the likes of [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], but even he had trouble justifying the decision. Ironhide also joined the Autobots in confronting the American military in the Nevada desert, where the President attempted to have them assassinated. The military used [[Deconstructionite|deconstructionites]], reverse-engineered Cybertronian technology in the form of tiny microchips that literally sapped away the Transformers' strength. Ironhide was the first of the Autobots to fall before this assault, and had to be hauled to safety inside Prime's trailer segment. {{storylink|Fusion (novel)|Fusion}}''

[[Image:PassiveAggression-KupIronhidereunite.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Old people ''never'' stop doing it. Now try to get that out of your brain!]]

Sometime after Ironhide was repaired, the Autobots again confronted the Decepticons, this time over a mysterious shuttle pod that landed in Northern Canada. [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] got the drop on Ironhide during the fight, riddling his backside with explosive shells. The feisty security agent had to be dragged off the battlefield so that Ratchet could perform the necessary repairs back at base. {{storylink|New World Order}} In the meantime, a force of United Cybertronians arrived on Earth and demanded that Prime and his crew surrender themselves into protective custody, in order to prevent them from rekindling the war which had been over on Cybertron now for centuries. Leaving behind a skeleton crew to watch over Earth, Optimus Prime, Ironhide and the other Autobots allowed [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and his operatives to bring them back to their home planet. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}} On Cybertron, Optimus Prime was separated from the other Autobots, and Ironhide's team was covertly brought by [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] to the Autobot resistance. Many Autobots on Cybertron questioned the beneficence of their "commander", [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], and had organized into several insurgency cells. Ironhide and Prowl met with [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]'s unit, who in turn brought them in touch with Optimus and second unit led by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and Kup. Ironhide quickly exchanged greetings (and a few good-natured insults) with his war-buddy Kup. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} With the ''Ark'''s crew at hand, the insurgency took to the streets, fighting back against Shockwave and his "[[Guardian robot|Dark Guardians]]". Ironhide joined [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and Hot Rod on the front lines during the advance. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}}

In the days that followed, Ironhide, Prowl and Kup attempted to coordinate things on Cybertron, but gratefully stepped aside once Ultra Magnus had finished his repair cycle. Ironhide was greatly amused when the uncharismatic Prowl attempted to make a public address at New Iacon's central hall, only to be bombarded with questions from concerned citizens. Later, he, Prowl and Kup knocked back [[kremzeek|refreshments]] and reflected upon the changing political landscape of Cybertron, and wondered if it would be best for old warriors such as themselves to leave. {{storylink|Skyfire (issue)|Skyfire}} With the discovery of a [[Sunstorm (G1)|mysterious cloned Transformer]] possessing the accumulated knowledge of [[Vector Sigma]] heading towards [[Earth]], Prowl decided that the ''Ark'''s old crew had an obligation to return there and defend their second home. Though some such as [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] griped, Ironhide knew that for all of their complaints, they would join the mission anyway. {{storylink|Atonement}} They returned to Earth and and began construction of a new Autobot base of operations: [[Autobot City]]. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
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Many years after the ''Ark'' had crashed on Earth, the human terrorist organization [[Cobra]] discovered it and its dormant crew. The Transformers were reprogrammed to be under Cobra's control and given new alternate modes, with Ironhide, Ratchet and Optimus Prime now turning into [[H.I.S.S.]] tanks. Along with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], the three Autobots were forced to attack a peace summit in [[Washington, D.C.]] {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #1}} The reprogrammed Transformers were eventually freed thanks to [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and despite Cobra's efforts to regain control of Ironhide, the Autobot got away when Ratchet ripped their control cables out of his head. Along with [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], the two then joined Optimus Prime in fighting back against both the freed Decepticons and Cobra. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}} During the battle, Ironhide didn't do much but liken the density of Decepticons on [[Cobra Island]] to that of [[astro tick]]s on [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]'s behind. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}}

After defeating the Decepticons on Earth, the Autobots returned to Cybertron, which [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had conquered in their absence. With the Autobots reduced to a small resistance band, Ironhide helped Optimus Prime and Jazz steal a pile of [[energon cube]]s from the Decepticons. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}} He was understandably surprised when his two friends suddenly disappeared in a flash of light. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}

Much later, when Optimus Prime was captured by [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]], Ironhide joined a team of Autobots who were waiting for a chance to free him. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}} When Serpent O.R.'s hostages were freed and [[G.I. Joe (team)|reinforcements]] arrived from Earth, the team attacked and ultimately defeated the Decepticon army. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

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===Dreamwave ''Transformers/G.I. Joe'' comics===
Along with the other Autobots, Iron Hide {{sic}} lay deactivated among the [[Fera Islands]] for four million years, until one day in [[1939]] when [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] arrived on the archipelago to defeat [[Cobra]]. [[Roadblock (G.I. Joe)|Roadblock]] accidentally activated the Autobots' [[Sky Spy|repair drone]], which awakened the Autobots and reformatted them, starting with Iron Hide, who was given the form of a human tank. The spooked humans opened fire on the metal giant, but their bullets merely bounced off, and Iron Hide politely asked them to cut it out before the ricochets hurt anyone. After things had settled down, Iron Hide supported the idea of the Autobots helping G.I. Joe, as he needed some workout after that little nap they took. {{storylink|Transformed}}

On behalf of [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], Iron Hide later asked [[Scarlett]] what she was brooding about. The human cryptically said that someone important was missing, but wouldn't explain [[Snake-Eyes|who]]. Shortly afterwards, Iron Hide was shipped out on a barge to attack the [[Terrordrome]] along with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]. {{storylink|Trenches}} During the ensuing battle, he punched out [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and offered to help [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] in his duel with [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], but it turned out Grimlock didn't need any help. Iron Hide presumably perished when the life-giving [[Matrix of Leadership]] was shattered in order to stop [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

{{note|But apparently he was intended to [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues#Transformers/G.I. Joe: Divided Front|get better]] if Dreamwave hadn't folded.}}

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When a badly-damaged Starscream was brought to the Ark, Ironhide agreed with Jazz that it was probably a trap. When Starscream turned out to be amnesiac and amenable to the Autobot cause, Ironhide and Cliffjumper were assigned to him as escorts, just in case. Ironhide would later join Optimus in shielding Starscream from the Decepticons, when they turned up to retrieve their comrade, noting that as Starscream was weaponless, it would hardly seem fair to not protect him. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

===IDW comics continuity===
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Back before the war, Ironhide was part of the Security Services. He performed both public and private security work, keeping the streets safe while also overseeing specific businesses and events. Ironhide was working the crowds at the Cybertronian raceway when [[Outback|a small 'bot]] burst through the line and attempted to shoot [[Drag Strip]], one of the star racers. Ironhide stopped the shooting and turned the little guy over to the authorities, paying little heed to his warnings about Megatron and the growing Decepticon movement. {{storylink|Iron in the Blood}}

[[Image:MegatronOrigin4 Ironhide fightin Thrust.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Get over here you—you—what the frag are you?"]]
Ironhide attended the funeral of [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] with [[Chromia (G1)|a familiar fembot]], and listened to [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'s eulogy/rally call. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} He was on the streets with Sentinel Prime and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] during the Battle of [[Kaon]], when the Autobots tried to halt the rebel Decepticons. Ironhide was dishing out justice the old fashioned way—with his fists. He was with the Autobots that contacted [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] when Sentinel's body was deposited in front of them, and Prowl ordered an evacuation. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}

In the early days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Ironhide was part of an Autobot unit led by [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]. During a mission to prevent an assassination attempt on [[Zeta Prime]], he saved the confused racer [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] from wandering right into their crossfire. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}} After first serving in the [[Cybertronian Civil Militia]], Ironhide joined the more formal Autobot army. He was initially skeptical of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime's]] ability to win the war, but Optimus proved willing to take advice from the more experienced soldier. Optimus believes Ironhide made him the leader he is today, and they saw many battles together (including one where Optimus would not leave him behind to save himself). {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13|Old Ways}}

[[Image:Infiltration2 Ironhide.jpg|left|150px|thumb|He's looking for the man who shot his pa.]]

As the war raged on, Ironhide led an rescue team to extract [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], whom Jazz was originally assigned to evacuate. They arrived just in the nick of time to ward off the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and save their comrades. On the trip back to Iacon, Jazz told Ironhide what had happened and what to tell the blinded Tracks. After Jazz had left, Tracks asked Ironhide who had saved him. Ironhide said simply that he was just an Autobot like Tracks was, and that he should never forget what that meant. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

Four million years ago, Ironhide and Prime were defending a city from the Decepticon advance. They broke off from the other Autobots to intercept a Decepticon fuel convoy headed for Megatron's troops. Through grit and determination, the duo managed to capture the entire convoy without firing a single shot. The Autobots won the day and were eager to celebrate their victory that night by over-energizing a tad. Ironhide remained resolute, however, constantly scanning the crowd for trouble even amidst the festivities. Lucky that he did, because a Decepticon assassin named [[Axer]] had infiltrated the party, and pulled a concealed blaster to execute Optimus Prime from behind. True to his duty, Ironhide flung himself into the path of Axer's shot, taking the full blast for his friend and commander. Although he eventually recovered from his injuries, this incident would have long term consequences for Ironhide. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}

Millions of years later, Ironhide was second-in-command (under Prowl) of a detachment of Autobots that had operated covertly on [[Earth]] for at least four years, attempting to foil a [[Infiltration protocol|Decepticon insurgency]]. Although more bound to the regulations than [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], he was still willing to bend the chain of command for the right reasons, and sent a pulsewave to Optimus Prime behind Prowl's back. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 3}} When Ratchet and Bumblebee's unauthorized recce uncovered evidence of the Decepticons' previous operations and reported Megatron's appearance, Prowl turned to the experienced Ironhide for tactical advice. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5}}

[[Image:Escalation2 Ironhide ANGRY.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Ironhide's holomatter avatar is a pissed-off old man. Fitting.]]

After Optimus Prime arrived on Earth, Ironhide was assigned the task of escorting a trio of humans back from the Autobots to their homes alongside [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] who was carrying [[Hunter O'Nion|Hunter]], while he transported [[Jimmy Pink|Jimmy]] and [[Verity Carlo|Verity]]. He became separated from Sunstreaker, who was immobilized and seemingly destroyed in an ambush by the [[Machination|a mysterious human organization]]. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1}} Once it was revealed that the debris recovered from the Machination was not that of Sunstreaker, Ironhide suggested himself for the search mission to find Sunstreaker's whereabouts, as he felt he owed it to him, but his wishes were dismissed by Optimus Prime. Prowl was mondo-pissed that Ironhide went around the chain of command and banished him to base duty while the other Autobots who had not (yet) pissed Prowl off left for [[Brasnya]] to confront the Decepticons. {{storylink|Escalation issue 3}} Proving his willingness to break the rules if needed, Ironhide disobeyed his orders to remain and monitor Decepticon activity, joining Ratchet, Verity and Jimmy in their attempts to uncover the fate of Sunstreaker and Hunter. {{storylink|Escalation issue 4}} However, while removing Verity and Jimmy from a building that was due to explode, Ironhide was caught in the explosion and went M.I.A. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6}}

After Optimus Prime returned from his meeting with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] learned that Ironhide was due to be crushed and compacted at a human dump and went to rescue him. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} They ran into some [[Headmaster (technology)|problems]] on the way there, however. They prevailed, and after Optimus Prime received word of the incident on [[Garrus-9]], he ordered [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to retrieve Hot Rod and the others. Hot Rod refused to go though, wanting to see the Headmaster mystery to the end. Hardhead reluctantly let him go and took Wheeljack and Ironhide back with him. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}

[[Image:Ironhidepuncheseveryone.jpg|left|250px|thumb|[[:Image:Ironhide_punches_Hot_Rod.jpg|And he's not done yet!]]]]
Over the next year, the Decepticons went quiet and intell dried up. Prowl advised to do nothing, but Ironhide, able to speak more to the warrior inside of Optimus, advised action. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 15|Everything in its Right Place}}. Whoops, action led the Autobots into a Decepticon trap! {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} As a result, Ironhide was among the battered Autobots trapped on Cybertron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}}

As frustrations boiled over in the Autobot camp, Tracks attempted to lift their spirits by telling the story of the time he was saved by a mysterious Autobot. Though Ironhide knew it was Jazz who had saved Tracks that day, the old story gave them hope, and he thanked him for it. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

Holding a deep suspicion that Mirage had sold them out to the Decepticons and knowing that Prowl and Jazz were shutting him out {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8}}, Ironhide came to blows (or really, blow) with Prowl over the issue before Jazz told him to walk it off. Later, Jazz talked to Ironhide about it, and the latter revealed his deep regret at Optimus Prime's current condition. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] soon asked Ironhide to accompany him to check out an emergency message from Wheeljack and Bumblebee, who were out on a scouting patrol. The two ran across Hot Rod, (well really, Ironhide's fist ran across Hot Rod's face), who seemed delighted to find other Autobots on Cybertron, having thought the planet was deserted. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4}}

Not long after Kup and his Autobot squad joined up with Prime's battered unit, Ironhide met with [[Roadbuster]] and tried to attempt to tell him the truth about why they got here, but the appearance of the [[Insecticon swarm]] rendered it moot. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6}} After getting Energon from the ''[[Trion]]'' and taking a rest, Ironhide noticed Sunstreaker storming out of a building. When Sunstreaker told him about his brother complaining about being a jerk toward Mirage along with, Ironhide couldn't take it anymore. Cornering Mirage, Ironhide proceeded to beat him senseless, leaving him in serious condition. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} After being chewed out by [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and being reminded of his past troubles, the conversation ended when the Swarm caught up to them. When the Autobots drove to a bridge to lure the Swarm there, so that they could blow it up and prevent them from advancing, Ironhide noticed Sunstreaker standing on the bridge. When Ironhide asked him what he was doing, Sunstreaker revealed to him that he was the real traitor, having made a deal with Starscream that would supposedly have resulted in Megatron's demise. Before more could be said, both were taken down by the Swarm. [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] came and rescued Ironhide just as Sunstreaker blew up the bridge, killing himself and taking a large portion of the Swarm with him. Upset, Ironhide went to rest and recover. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8}}

[[Image:All Hail Megatron 10 Optimus and Ironhide.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Seen shortly before being reminded of how he [[All Hail Megatron issue 13|used]] to hate Op's guts.]]
Feeling like a complete twat, Ironhide attempted to apologize to Mirage, but was angrily rebuffed. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9}} Once Optimus Prime was back on his feet, Ironhide asked him why the others hadn't told him that Megatron had stolen the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], but was told not to hold it against them. After thinking about this, Ironhide called Prime the "greatest bot I've ever known," which Prime found amusing, considering how they clashed when they first met. When the Swarm assaulted the Autobot base, Ironhide found himself side by side with Mirage at the front line defenses. Mirage told Ironhide to run for it while he distracted the enemy, but Ironhide threw himself into the fray, refusing to let his comrade sacrifice himself. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10}} When Omega Supreme saved them and took them to Earth, Ironhide participated in the battle against the Decepticons. However he worried that [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and the others would be on the Autobots in seconds. His worry, fortuately, was unfounded, as Omega subsequently stepped in and slagged Devastator. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11}} Later, after [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] sniped Megatron, Ironhide called [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] a coward because he and the Decepticons were leaving. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12}} When Bumblebee went missing in one of the human disaster areas after the Decepticons evacuated, Ironhide was part of an Autobot squad who managed to retrieve him. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 16|Hidden}}

[[Image:Ongoing Issue 1-Ironhide Bites The Dust.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Either Hot Rod's jinxed or he secretly wants the entire 1984 cast dead.]]
Two years later, the Autobots were still on Earth. Optimus Prime's guilt over the devastation their war brought to the world prevented the Autobot army from leaving the humans behind. Even worse, the humans weren't at all interested in Prime's guilt, but were actively hunting Autobot and Decepticon alike. Several Autobots were taken prisoner by [[Skywatch]], the American robot-hunting organization. Events reached an apex when Prowl was captured while trying to prevent the execution of a wandering Decepticon. Optimus Prime finally relented on his hands-off policy, and sent [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and a squad into the Skywatch holding facility to rescue Prowl. Ironhide went with him to keep an eye on the kid, and promised Optimus nothing would happen to Hot Rod. The situation escalated horribly, however, and the humans began responding with lethal force against the Autobots during the breakout. Ironhide spotted a particle cannon turret being leveled against Hot Rod and Prowl, and threw himself into the weapon's path, taking a fatal shot through the chest to protect his field leader and keep his promise to Prime. Prowl brought Ironhide's body back to the Autobots' hidden base after the battle.

Optimus blamed himself for his old friend's demise, which served as a catalyst for his resignation from the Autobots.{{storylink|...For All Mankind}}

But Ironhide wasn't dead at all. At least...not completely. One year later, he awoke on Cybertron fully repaired, yet unable to recall anything from after his ill-fated confrontation with Axer four million years before. {{storylink|The Iron Age}} Unaware of how Cybertron had fallen into ruin since [[Thunderhead Pass]], Ironhide wandered Iacon in shock, unable to comprehend why the whole planet seemed to be abandoned and in disrepair. He also wasn't familiar with the three thousand strong [[Insecticon swarm]] that now inhabited the planet, but that quickly changed. The bugs got in his face, so Ironhide smashed in theirs, enjoying the chance to vent his frustrations. On the verge of succumbing to grief and isolation, Ironhide was finally found by a small drone who asked him to simply "Follow." With nothing better to do, Ironhide accompanied the little robot until he reached their destination -- a brightly lit and functioning complex, the only signs of life and power on the whole planet. {{storylink|Iron in the Blood}}

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===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
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Ironhide served on the [[Maximal Imperium]], alongside [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]. Leadership seemed to have robbed him of a bit of his gusto, although according to [[Big Convoy]] he was 'right honorable'. Ironhide, Prowl and Silverbolt sent [[Ikard]] to request a report from Big Convoy, but he refused, citing his need to investigate the [[Angolmois]]-fueled murders. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 2}}

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===IDW ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' continuity===
Ironhide participated in the pursuit of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (his name is written on the side of his altmode, a military boxcar), and partially transformed from artillery boxcar mode to robot mode in order to shoot down [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4}}

{{note|For unclear reasons, in the trade paperback collection, the Autobot who shoots down Scourge identifies himself as [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], not Ironhide. Ironhide is present, but does not speak or act.}}

===''Timelines''===
[[Image:Ratchetironhidedescent.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Amazingly not dead.]]
Ironhide was severely injured during a battle on [[Moon Base Four]], but Optimus Prime used his [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] to create a new body for his old friend.<ref>Ironhide's ''Timelines'' toy bio</ref>

Years after the Autobot-Decepticon Wars ended, Ironhide and five other Autobots were sent to [[Ceti Alpha Seven]] to destroy General [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]'s [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] clone lab and stop his planned Decepticon uprising. After a team of four (consisting of [[Outback|Fallback]], [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]], [[Flareup (Timelines)|Flareup]], and [[Ricochet (Descent into Evil)|Ricochet]]) failed, Ironhide and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] followed to help. After battling swarms of [[Virulent Clone]]s and [[Buzzclaw (Timelines)|Buzzclaw]], they finally met up with Deathsaurus himself. Ironhide stayed to fight the general, and Ratchet separated to find their fallen friends. However, Ironhide was shot in the back by [[Flamewar]] and he went into stasis lock. Ironhide woke up restrained inside Deathsaurus' lab with Ratchet, while Deathsaurus appeared to them on a monitor and told them he planned to destroy the lab by remote. Before the lab could detonate, Ricochet snuck in and freed them, allowing them to gather their fallen and escape. {{storylink|Descent into Evil}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===
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{{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 7|Henkei! Henkei! #7}}

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{{storylink|Mirage's Rebirth}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' Bun Bun manga===
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==Toys==
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==Merchandise==
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==Notes==
*It has been speculated by some fans that, in cartoon continuity, Ironhide may have been created from [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Orion Pax]]'s friend [[Dion]], the same way and at the same time Prime and [[Elita One]] were rebuilt by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]].

:''For further elaboration, see [[Dion|Who is Dion?]].''

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Ironhide Ironhide's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&tno=11964126283JGBV&req=PRODUCT&code=tfe27 e-Hobby's page for Black Protect Ironhide]

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A girl transformer fan artist.

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