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Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)

2010-08-01T04:31:14Z

Saberblade: /* Autobot Campaign */

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{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: War for Cybertron''
|image=War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎
|caption=It's like Gears of War, but you ''turn into'' the Centaur.
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]]
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|date=[[June 22]], [[2010]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T
}}

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game, which itself in turn sets the stage for the upcoming cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

The game itself is an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game was released [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC; however, the console versions were released at Sears stores on June 17th.

{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]
Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' features a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/seibertron-qa-with-activision-makers-of-war-for-cybertron/17548/ Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

===Decepticon Campaign===
'''Chapter I: Dark Energon'''
*Characters available: [[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]], [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]], [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]

It is the waning days of the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before the Transformers come to Earth. [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. Megatron discovers that the factory that produces Dark Energon is guarded by a neutral army led by [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and he leads an attack on the station. After his ship crashes into the hull of the station, Megatron, [[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]] and [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] defeat Starscream's army and harness the power of the Dark Energon. Cornered, Starscream tells Megatron that he's the only one who knows how to make more of the energon and that he will help the Decepticon leader if Megatron takes him into his army. Megatron reluctantly agrees to this.

'''Chapter II: Fuel of War'''
*Characters available: Starscream, [[Thundercracker (Prime)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]]
*Boss: [[Cybertron's Sentinel]]
Megatron sends the [[seeker (body-type)|seekers]] to reactivate the ancient [[Energon Bridge]] that will produce new Dark Energon. After fighting legions of Autobot defenders, they succeed.

'''Chapter III: [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Destroyed'''
*Characters available: Megatron, [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], Breakdown
*Boss: [[Sentinel Zeta Prime‎|Zeta Prime]]
With his new powers, Megatron takes the fight straight to the Autobot's capital city. While Starscream and Brawl lead the main attack on the city, Megatron takes Soundwave and Breakdown on a flanking attack to recover the Omega Key, which will allow him to access the core of the planet. Arriving at the key's holding place, the Decepticons learn that the Autobot leader Zeta Prime has taken it to keep it safe. The team regroup with Brawl and Starscream, and use Dark Energon bombers to eliminate the remaining Autobots before storming the building in which Zeta Prime is waiting. Megatron defeats the Autobot leader, stealing the Omega Key and punching a hole in his chest. Zeta reveals that the key Megatron has just stolen only activates the ''real'' Omega Key, and that soon '''it''' will find '''him'''. Suddenly [[Omega Supreme (Prime)|a huge ship awakens and takes off.]]

'''Chapter IV: Death of Hope'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Vehicle mode)
An unknown amount of time later, Megatron is commanding his ship in search of the "Omega Key". The ship is suddenly attacked by Omega Supreme, who shoots them out of the sky, causing them to crash-land in Iacon. Megatron, Soundwave and Breakdown began a desperate retreat from Omega Supreme's attack and take cover in a large tower. Once inside, the group hear Starscream announce that Megatron is dead and that he is taking command of the Decepticons (surprise!). Enraged but unable to make any outside contact, Megatron leads his forces through the city, dodging attacks from Omega Supreme while searching for a way to fight him. Soundwave discovers that they can use some of the Autobot's anti-air and anti-infantry turrets on a tower roof against the massive Autobot. Along the way, the group makes contact with Starscream and corrects his mistake, using him to distract Omega Supreme. Once they reached the turrets, the group manages to shoot down Omega Supreme, causing him to crash to the ground below.

'''Chapter V: The Final Guardian'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Robot mode)
The Decepticons descend into the impact crater to loot Omega's remains, but he transforms into robot mode, unleashing his full barrage on the squad. Megatron manages to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, using him to reach and corrupt the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon.

===Autobot Campaign===

'''Chapter VI: Defend Iacon'''
*Characters available: [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]
*Boss: Starscream
In a decimated Iacon, the young Autobot messenger Bumblebee is sent to tell the soldier Optimus that Zeta Prime is dead. Optimus decides to take temporary control of the Autobots, adopting Bumblebee into his team. The two of them and Ratchet kick off a counterattack to push out Decepticon forces. They manage to reactivate the planetary guns, clearing the skies over Iacon, and proceed to aid [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] in reclaiming the Decagon, tangling with Starscream along the way. Entering the Decagon, Optimus receives a message from Zeta Prime, revealing that he is not yet dead but is being held in a prison in [[Kaon]].

'''Chapter VII: Kaon Prison Break'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]], Bumblebee
*Boss: Soundwave
Optimus allows his team to be captured by the Decepticons and enter the prison. The three are just barely saved from a firing squad by [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]], but as they escape into the tunnels below, Air Raid is captured. The three Autobots sneak through the prison, rescuing Air Raid and releasing all the Autobot prisoners (including [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]). Using the chaos as a distraction, the trio sneak to the high security bunker Zeta Prime is being held. When the Autobots try to save them, Soundwave attacks, sending out [[Frenzy (Prime)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]. The Autobots defeat them, but Soundwave manages to retreat. When Optimus tries to rescue Zeta, the Prime tells him that he is already dead and collapses. Optimus returns the body to the [[Autobot High Council]], who tell Optimus that he must accept that he is a Prime and take up his role as leader. Thus, he becomes Optimus Prime.

'''Chapter VIII: To the Core'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], [[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]]
*Boss: Corrupted Space Slug
Optimus' first task as Prime is to cure the currently infected core. Heading to the entrance, where Omega Supreme is being held by the Decepticons, the three Autobots manage to free Omega, then call in Ratchet to repair him enough to open the Omega Gate. Thanks to the help of some [[space slug]]s, Prime, Warpath, and Ironhide defeat a corrupted space slug and reach the [[Primus|core]]. However, the core tells Optimus that, in order to repair itself, it will have to shut down for millions of years, forcing Optimus and the Autobots to evacuate Cybertron. Before the core shuts down, it gives Optimus the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

'''Chapter IX: Aerial Assault'''
*Characters available: [[Silverbolt (Prime)|Silverbolt]], [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]], [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]]
*Boss: [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]
Returning to Iacon, Optimus Prime orders the launching of a full-scale evacuation of Cybertron's surface. However, as the transports leave the atmosphere, Megatron begins shooting them down with his <s>giant purple griffin</s> massive orbital space station. Optimus relizes the need to shut down the station, and sends a group of fliers to shut it down from the inside out. The team manages to blow up the power core, but Megatron taunts them as he activates a back-up generator. Then the station itself begins to mock them. Realizing the station is a Cybertronian, the team flies to find its conversion cog to force it into its robot mode before it can finish leveling Iacon, and Optimus with it. Succeeding, the Autobots race out of the quickly transforming space station as it reveals itself to be Trypticon. The Autobots shoot out the massive Decepticon's jetpack, causing it to hurtle towards the surface of the planet.

'''Chapter X: One Shall Stand...'''
*Characters available: Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide
*Boss: Trypticon
All seems quiet as Optimus and others search the wreckage, but soon a very much alive and enraged Trypticon emerges to wage a long and difficult battle with the Autobots. After targeting key weaknesses, Optimus uses his axe to knock Trypticon off-balance, sending it plummeting into the liquid below. As the other transports escape the planet's dying surface Optimus shows his team their new ship - an [[Ark (Prime)|Ark]] that will allow them to take a piece of Cybertron with them, [[Earth|wherever their adventures may take them...]]

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(Prime)#War_for_Cybertron|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (Prime)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)
*[[Scattershot (Prime)|Scattershot]] (Downloadable content character)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (Prime)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (Prime)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (Prime)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
*[[Onslaught (Prime)|Onslaught]] (Downloadable content character)
|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobots'''
*[[Sentinel Zeta Prime‎|Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Omega Supreme (Prime)|Omega Supreme]] (Fred Tatasciore)
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (Prime)|Frenzy]] (Keith Silverstein)
*[[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]
'''Other'''
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scouts]]
*[[Sniper (WFC)|Snipers]]
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldiers]]
*[[Flier (WFC)|Fliers]]
*[[Cloaker (WFC)|Cloakers]]
*[[Brute (WFC)|Brutes]]
*[[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldiers]]
*[[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyers]]
*[[Spider]]s
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Multiplayer==

The multiplayer options make up a large portion of War for Cybertron's content. Hope you have a Gold account!

===Campaign===
The single-player campaigns can be played online, with players taking control of the other two allies that are usually just dumb A.I. If other players are participating, a tally of each participants kills is kept. You know, for bragging rights.

===Escalation===
This cooperative mode puts several friends together against an unending horde of enemies. With each horde vanquished, new areas are opened. Each area contains vending machines that hold weapons, ammo, and permission to access more areas. Characters in Escalation mode are the same as those selected in Campaign; custom multiplayer 'bots are not available here.

===Multiplayer===
This broad option is where you will be spending most of your hours after you beat Trypticon. Here, players can create their own Cybertronian combatant and pit them against the multitude of online [[Fandom|transfans]] and [[Coby|12-year-olds]] that will slaughter you. Custom characters can be leveled up by killing dudes in matches, with specific bonuses being given for specific actions. As they level up, more abilities become available.

;Characters
Characters are created from four different bases, each of which feature different weapons, abilities and alternate forms. They are:
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] - Cars. Fast, usually cloakers.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]] - Jets. Also fast, usually medics and buffers.
*[[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] - Trucks. Balanced, with emphasis on defense and ally-aid.
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] - Tanks. Slow and powerful, with offensive abilities.

Initially, players are only able to create one of each class, but as they level up, more slots open for a maximum of three of each class. Names can be chosen for each, but don't get too excited about making the [[Fanon|Transformer you always dreamed of]]: bodies are limited to about three options per faction and look exactly like characters from single-player (for example, the Autobot Scout category lets you choose from Bumblebee, Sideswipe or Arcee). You can, however, pick your color scheme. The palettes are rather limited, especially for Decepticons. However, if you preordered one of the three characters ([[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]], [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]], and [[Demolishor (Prime)|Demolisher]]) from where ever, you can use their chassis in Multiplayer.

;Playlists
Choosing a playlist will automatically send you into a lobby, where the service will do its best to form balanced teams (I.E., you hopefully won't see a team of level 25 leaders fighting one level zero Scout). The service will also select a random [[Maps (WFC)|stage]], which players can veto. Finally, when the game begins, combatants select their character. If your scientist gets butchered too many times, you can pick a different character at any time during the match, and you will switch to it upon dying. Players also cannot pick a faction; the game does it automatically. Weapons can only be picked up from defeated enemies; ammo caches, overshields and energon are scattered throughout the stages.

Playlists include:
*'''Team deathmatch''': Kill 40 opponents to win. Games can range from four to sixteen players.
*'''Deathmatch''': Kill 20 opponents to win. It's a free-for-all.
*'''Conquest''': Defend several "power nodes" until your team gets 400 points.
*'''Code of power''': Capture the flag. Team with highest score after two rounds wins.
*'''Countdown to extinction''': Plant the bomb in the enemy's base three times to win.
*'''Power struggle''': Control the active power node until you get 400 points.

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Trophy/Achievement list==
When completing various goals and tasks during the campaigns and in online multi-player, the player can earn Trophies on PlayStation 3 and Achievements on the Xbox 360. There are 4 kinds of Trophies: Platinum is the highest, and is only unlocked after earning all the other trophies. It is followed by Gold, which include harder tasks and worth more experience. Then Silver, with less experience than Gold, and finally Bronze which represent easier tasks and worth the least experience. On the Xbox, each achievement has a Gamerscore (G) that adds to the player's total gamerscore, which is essentially the Xbox Live version of "Street Cred".

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''Achievement/Trophy name'''
| '''Achievement/Trophy description'''
| '''Gamerscore'''
| '''PS Trophy'''
|-
| [[A Prime Problem]]
| Complete "Defend Iacon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Last Prime
| Complete "Kaon Prison Break" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Touch|You Got the Touch]]
| Complete "To the Core" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The War Within]]
| Complete "Aerial Assault" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Harder They Fall
| Complete "One Shall Stand" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Dark Awakening]]
| Complete "Dark Energon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Paging Ratchet
| Revive 5 Autobot soldiers in "Defend Iacon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Beak Breaker
| Shoot the 3 hidden Laserbeaks in throughout "Kaon Prion Break"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]
| Save the slug before it is executed in "To the Core"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] Performer
| Fly through the coolant tunnels in under 23 seconds in "Aerial Assault"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Transformers: The Movie|First We Crack the Shell...]]
| Get smashed by Trypticon's hand as he falls into energon goo in "One Shall Stand"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Recruit
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Commander
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Autobot Prime
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [[Starscream's Brigade]]
| Complete "Fuel of War" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Fall of Iacon
| Complete "Iacon Destroyed" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]
| Complete "Death of Hope" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Mars (episode)#Quotes|Victory is]] [[Home Is Where the Spark Is|Mine]]
| Complete "The Final Guardian" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Your Lucky Day
| Kill all but 1 of the neutral prisoners in "Dark Energon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Thief in the Night]]
| Find and disable all of the security trip-wire switches in "Fuel of War"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Unicron|Chaos Bringer]]
| Destroy the planets in the Stellar Galleries in "Iacon Destroyed"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]!
| Race across the Chasm Bridge in under 33 seconds in "Death of Hope"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]
| Destroy all cover in the arena in "The Final Guardian"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Grunt
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Seeker
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Decepticon Warlord
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [['Til all are one|Till All Are One]]
| Complete both Campaigns (Any Difficulty)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Bruticus (G1)|Brute-a-kiss]]!
| Ignite a Brute's back 5 times in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Footloose and Fancy Free
| Destroy a Jet Soldier's foot thrusters 5 time in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| That's No [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]
| Headshot a Cloaker when it is invisible in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Targetmaster]]!
| Kill two snipers in 5 seconds
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| There Are Parts Everywhere
| Multi-Kill 3 car soldiers at once using an explosive weapon in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blast-arachnia]]!
| Destroy 100 spider in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Fire in the Sky]]
| Melee kill a Jet Vehicle in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Friends to the End
| Complete a level in Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Unlikely Allies
| Complete a level in Competitive Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More Than Meets the Eye]]
| Earn a 1st Place MVP award in any Multiplayer mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got [[Spark]], Kid
| Reach level 5 in any single class in Multiplayer
| 5G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] BFF
| Reach a combined class of level of 25 in Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| The [[Kup (G1)|Kup's]] Half Full
| Reach a combined class level of 50 in Multiplayer
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Only the Strong Survive
| Reach a combined class level of 75 in Multiplayer
| 50G
| Silver
|-
| Top of the Scrap Heap
| Reach a combined class level of 100 in Multiplayer
| 75G
| Silver
|-
| [[Prime Directive]]
| Unlock Prime Mode
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Powermaster]]!
| Spend 25,000 power in Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Heavy Metal War]]
| Complete the 15th wave in Escalation
| 50G
| Gold
|-
| [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] Would Be Proud
| Destroy all hidden Autobot symbols in the Decepticon Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], Smash!
| Destroy all hidden Decepticon symbols in the Autobot Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Action Master]]
| Get 10 kills with a single detached turret in any mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Transformers: The Movie|Wait! I Still Function!]]
| Get 3 kills while downed in a Co-Op campaign or Escalation
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Ramhorn]]
| Ram-kill an enemy who is stunned by an EMP Grenade in Campaign or Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Vector Sigma]] Victory
| Unlock All Trophies
|
| Platinum
|-
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is multiplayer only, and only two of the four classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Reception==
The game has received many positive reviews from critics and fans alike. IGN has given the score 9/10 because of its "Great Presentation", "Fun Multiplayer", "Classy Fan Service", but subtracted from its score due to the "Repetitive Visuals".<ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p1.html IGN's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3, page 1]</ref><ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p2.html IGN's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3, page 2]</ref> GameRankings sums up the average score of numerous reviews with 79 points<ref>[http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/981364-transformers-war-for-cybertron/index.html GameRankings' archive of reviews for PS3 version of ''War for Cybertron'']</ref>, Metacritic averages 77 points<ref>[http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/transformerswarforcybertron Reviews for the PS3 version of ''War for Cybertron'' at Metacritic]</ref>, and other scores include 85 from GameInformer <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/ps3/archive/2010/06/22/review.aspx High Moon has the touch, from GameInformer]</ref>, B+ from 1UP.com<ref>[http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3180025&p=37&sec=REVIEWS 1up.com's review of ''War for Cybertron'' on PS3]</ref>, and 4 out of 5 stars from GamePro<ref>[http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/215618/transformers-war-for-cybertron/ Gamepro's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on PS3]</ref>. The lowest, however, is 6.5 from Gamespot, citing the weaknesses: "Lack of visual and gameplay variety in the campaign, Paucity of ammunition, Boss fights are incredibly tedious, Friendly and enemy AI is poor, Transformations are integrated poorly with the core action".<ref>[http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html Gamespot's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]

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[[Category:Video games]]

Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)

2010-08-01T04:29:57Z

Saberblade: /* Autobot Campaign */

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{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: War for Cybertron''
|image=War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎
|caption=It's like Gears of War, but you ''turn into'' the Centaur.
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]]
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|date=[[June 22]], [[2010]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T
}}

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game, which itself in turn sets the stage for the upcoming cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

The game itself is an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game was released [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC; however, the console versions were released at Sears stores on June 17th.

{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]
Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' features a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/seibertron-qa-with-activision-makers-of-war-for-cybertron/17548/ Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

===Decepticon Campaign===
'''Chapter I: Dark Energon'''
*Characters available: [[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]], [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]], [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]

It is the waning days of the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before the Transformers come to Earth. [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. Megatron discovers that the factory that produces Dark Energon is guarded by a neutral army led by [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and he leads an attack on the station. After his ship crashes into the hull of the station, Megatron, [[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]] and [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] defeat Starscream's army and harness the power of the Dark Energon. Cornered, Starscream tells Megatron that he's the only one who knows how to make more of the energon and that he will help the Decepticon leader if Megatron takes him into his army. Megatron reluctantly agrees to this.

'''Chapter II: Fuel of War'''
*Characters available: Starscream, [[Thundercracker (Prime)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]]
*Boss: [[Cybertron's Sentinel]]
Megatron sends the [[seeker (body-type)|seekers]] to reactivate the ancient [[Energon Bridge]] that will produce new Dark Energon. After fighting legions of Autobot defenders, they succeed.

'''Chapter III: [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Destroyed'''
*Characters available: Megatron, [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], Breakdown
*Boss: [[Sentinel Zeta Prime‎|Zeta Prime]]
With his new powers, Megatron takes the fight straight to the Autobot's capital city. While Starscream and Brawl lead the main attack on the city, Megatron takes Soundwave and Breakdown on a flanking attack to recover the Omega Key, which will allow him to access the core of the planet. Arriving at the key's holding place, the Decepticons learn that the Autobot leader Zeta Prime has taken it to keep it safe. The team regroup with Brawl and Starscream, and use Dark Energon bombers to eliminate the remaining Autobots before storming the building in which Zeta Prime is waiting. Megatron defeats the Autobot leader, stealing the Omega Key and punching a hole in his chest. Zeta reveals that the key Megatron has just stolen only activates the ''real'' Omega Key, and that soon '''it''' will find '''him'''. Suddenly [[Omega Supreme (Prime)|a huge ship awakens and takes off.]]

'''Chapter IV: Death of Hope'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Vehicle mode)
An unknown amount of time later, Megatron is commanding his ship in search of the "Omega Key". The ship is suddenly attacked by Omega Supreme, who shoots them out of the sky, causing them to crash-land in Iacon. Megatron, Soundwave and Breakdown began a desperate retreat from Omega Supreme's attack and take cover in a large tower. Once inside, the group hear Starscream announce that Megatron is dead and that he is taking command of the Decepticons (surprise!). Enraged but unable to make any outside contact, Megatron leads his forces through the city, dodging attacks from Omega Supreme while searching for a way to fight him. Soundwave discovers that they can use some of the Autobot's anti-air and anti-infantry turrets on a tower roof against the massive Autobot. Along the way, the group makes contact with Starscream and corrects his mistake, using him to distract Omega Supreme. Once they reached the turrets, the group manages to shoot down Omega Supreme, causing him to crash to the ground below.

'''Chapter V: The Final Guardian'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Robot mode)
The Decepticons descend into the impact crater to loot Omega's remains, but he transforms into robot mode, unleashing his full barrage on the squad. Megatron manages to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, using him to reach and corrupt the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon.

===Autobot Campaign===

'''Chapter VI: Defend Iacon'''
*Characters available: [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]
*Boss: Starscream
In a decimated Iacon, the young Autobot messenger Bumblebee is sent to tell the soldier Optimus that Zeta Prime is dead. Optimus decides to take temporary control of the Autobots, adopting Bumblebee into his team. The two of them and Ratchet kick off a counterattack to push out Decepticon forces. They manage to reactivate the planetary guns, clearing the skies over Iacon, and proceed to aid [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] in reclaiming the Decagon, tangling with Starscream along the way. Entering the Decagon, Optimus receives a message from Zeta Prime, revealing that he is not yet dead but is being held in a prison in [[Kaon]].

'''Chapter VII: Kaon Prison Break'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]], Bumblebee
*Boss: Soundwave
Optimus allows his team to be captured by the Decepticons and enter the prison. The three are just barely saved from a firing squad by [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]], but as they escape into the tunnels below, Air Raid is captured. The three Autobots sneak through the prison, rescuing Air Raid and releasing all the Autobot prisoners (including [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]). Using the chaos as a distraction, the trio sneak to the high security bunker Zeta Prime is being held. When the Autobots try to save them, Soundwave attacks, sending out [[Frenzy (Prime)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]. The Autobots defeat them, but Soundwave manages to retreat. When Optimus tries to rescue Zeta, the Prime tells him that he is already dead and collapses. Optimus returns the body to the [[Autobot High Council]], who tell Optimus that he must accept that he is a Prime and take up his role as leader. Thus, he becomes Optimus Prime.

'''Chapter VIII: To the Core'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], [[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]]
*Boss: Corrupted Space Slug
Optimus' first task as Prime is to cure the currently infected core. Heading to the entrance, where Omega Supreme is being held by the Decepticons, the three Autobots manage to free Omega, then call in Ratchet to repair him enough to open the Omega Gate. Thanks to the help of some [[space slug]]s, Prime, Warpath, and Ironhide defeat a corrupted space slug and reach the [[Primus|core]]. However, the core tells Optimus that, in order to repair itself, it will have to shut down for millions of years, forcing Optimus and the Autobots to evacuate Cybertron. Before the core shuts down, it gives Optimus the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

'''Chapter IX: Aerial Assault'''
*Characters available: [[Silverbolt (Prime)|Silverbolt]], [[Air Raid (Prime)]], [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]]
*Boss: [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]
Returning to Iacon, Optimus Prime orders the launching of a full-scale evacuation of Cybertron's surface. However, as the transports leave the atmosphere, Megatron begins shooting them down with his <s>giant purple griffin</s> massive orbital space station. Optimus relizes the need to shut down the station, and sends a group of fliers to shut it down from the inside out. The team manages to blow up the power core, but Megatron taunts them as he activates a back-up generator. Then the station itself begins to mock them. Realizing the station is a Cybertronian, the team flies to find its conversion cog to force it into its robot mode before it can finish leveling Iacon, and Optimus with it. Succeeding, the Autobots race out of the quickly transforming space station as it reveals itself to be Trypticon. The Autobots shoot out the massive Decepticon's jetpack, causing it to hurtle towards the surface of the planet.

'''Chapter X: One Shall Stand...'''
*Characters available: Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide
*Boss: Trypticon
All seems quiet as Optimus and others search the wreckage, but soon a very much alive and enraged Trypticon emerges to wage a long and difficult battle with the Autobots. After targeting key weaknesses, Optimus uses his axe to knock Trypticon off-balance, sending it plummeting into the liquid below. As the other transports escape the planet's dying surface Optimus shows his team their new ship - an [[Ark (Prime)|Ark]] that will allow them to take a piece of Cybertron with them, [[Earth|wherever their adventures may take them...]]

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(Prime)#War_for_Cybertron|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (Prime)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)
*[[Scattershot (Prime)|Scattershot]] (Downloadable content character)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (Prime)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (Prime)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (Prime)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
*[[Onslaught (Prime)|Onslaught]] (Downloadable content character)
|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobots'''
*[[Sentinel Zeta Prime‎|Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Omega Supreme (Prime)|Omega Supreme]] (Fred Tatasciore)
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (Prime)|Frenzy]] (Keith Silverstein)
*[[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]
'''Other'''
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scouts]]
*[[Sniper (WFC)|Snipers]]
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldiers]]
*[[Flier (WFC)|Fliers]]
*[[Cloaker (WFC)|Cloakers]]
*[[Brute (WFC)|Brutes]]
*[[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldiers]]
*[[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyers]]
*[[Spider]]s
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Multiplayer==

The multiplayer options make up a large portion of War for Cybertron's content. Hope you have a Gold account!

===Campaign===
The single-player campaigns can be played online, with players taking control of the other two allies that are usually just dumb A.I. If other players are participating, a tally of each participants kills is kept. You know, for bragging rights.

===Escalation===
This cooperative mode puts several friends together against an unending horde of enemies. With each horde vanquished, new areas are opened. Each area contains vending machines that hold weapons, ammo, and permission to access more areas. Characters in Escalation mode are the same as those selected in Campaign; custom multiplayer 'bots are not available here.

===Multiplayer===
This broad option is where you will be spending most of your hours after you beat Trypticon. Here, players can create their own Cybertronian combatant and pit them against the multitude of online [[Fandom|transfans]] and [[Coby|12-year-olds]] that will slaughter you. Custom characters can be leveled up by killing dudes in matches, with specific bonuses being given for specific actions. As they level up, more abilities become available.

;Characters
Characters are created from four different bases, each of which feature different weapons, abilities and alternate forms. They are:
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] - Cars. Fast, usually cloakers.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]] - Jets. Also fast, usually medics and buffers.
*[[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] - Trucks. Balanced, with emphasis on defense and ally-aid.
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] - Tanks. Slow and powerful, with offensive abilities.

Initially, players are only able to create one of each class, but as they level up, more slots open for a maximum of three of each class. Names can be chosen for each, but don't get too excited about making the [[Fanon|Transformer you always dreamed of]]: bodies are limited to about three options per faction and look exactly like characters from single-player (for example, the Autobot Scout category lets you choose from Bumblebee, Sideswipe or Arcee). You can, however, pick your color scheme. The palettes are rather limited, especially for Decepticons. However, if you preordered one of the three characters ([[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]], [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]], and [[Demolishor (Prime)|Demolisher]]) from where ever, you can use their chassis in Multiplayer.

;Playlists
Choosing a playlist will automatically send you into a lobby, where the service will do its best to form balanced teams (I.E., you hopefully won't see a team of level 25 leaders fighting one level zero Scout). The service will also select a random [[Maps (WFC)|stage]], which players can veto. Finally, when the game begins, combatants select their character. If your scientist gets butchered too many times, you can pick a different character at any time during the match, and you will switch to it upon dying. Players also cannot pick a faction; the game does it automatically. Weapons can only be picked up from defeated enemies; ammo caches, overshields and energon are scattered throughout the stages.

Playlists include:
*'''Team deathmatch''': Kill 40 opponents to win. Games can range from four to sixteen players.
*'''Deathmatch''': Kill 20 opponents to win. It's a free-for-all.
*'''Conquest''': Defend several "power nodes" until your team gets 400 points.
*'''Code of power''': Capture the flag. Team with highest score after two rounds wins.
*'''Countdown to extinction''': Plant the bomb in the enemy's base three times to win.
*'''Power struggle''': Control the active power node until you get 400 points.

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Trophy/Achievement list==
When completing various goals and tasks during the campaigns and in online multi-player, the player can earn Trophies on PlayStation 3 and Achievements on the Xbox 360. There are 4 kinds of Trophies: Platinum is the highest, and is only unlocked after earning all the other trophies. It is followed by Gold, which include harder tasks and worth more experience. Then Silver, with less experience than Gold, and finally Bronze which represent easier tasks and worth the least experience. On the Xbox, each achievement has a Gamerscore (G) that adds to the player's total gamerscore, which is essentially the Xbox Live version of "Street Cred".

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''Achievement/Trophy name'''
| '''Achievement/Trophy description'''
| '''Gamerscore'''
| '''PS Trophy'''
|-
| [[A Prime Problem]]
| Complete "Defend Iacon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Last Prime
| Complete "Kaon Prison Break" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Touch|You Got the Touch]]
| Complete "To the Core" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The War Within]]
| Complete "Aerial Assault" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Harder They Fall
| Complete "One Shall Stand" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Dark Awakening]]
| Complete "Dark Energon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Paging Ratchet
| Revive 5 Autobot soldiers in "Defend Iacon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Beak Breaker
| Shoot the 3 hidden Laserbeaks in throughout "Kaon Prion Break"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]
| Save the slug before it is executed in "To the Core"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] Performer
| Fly through the coolant tunnels in under 23 seconds in "Aerial Assault"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Transformers: The Movie|First We Crack the Shell...]]
| Get smashed by Trypticon's hand as he falls into energon goo in "One Shall Stand"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Recruit
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Commander
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Autobot Prime
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [[Starscream's Brigade]]
| Complete "Fuel of War" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Fall of Iacon
| Complete "Iacon Destroyed" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]
| Complete "Death of Hope" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Mars (episode)#Quotes|Victory is]] [[Home Is Where the Spark Is|Mine]]
| Complete "The Final Guardian" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Your Lucky Day
| Kill all but 1 of the neutral prisoners in "Dark Energon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Thief in the Night]]
| Find and disable all of the security trip-wire switches in "Fuel of War"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Unicron|Chaos Bringer]]
| Destroy the planets in the Stellar Galleries in "Iacon Destroyed"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]!
| Race across the Chasm Bridge in under 33 seconds in "Death of Hope"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]
| Destroy all cover in the arena in "The Final Guardian"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Grunt
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Seeker
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Decepticon Warlord
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [['Til all are one|Till All Are One]]
| Complete both Campaigns (Any Difficulty)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Bruticus (G1)|Brute-a-kiss]]!
| Ignite a Brute's back 5 times in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Footloose and Fancy Free
| Destroy a Jet Soldier's foot thrusters 5 time in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| That's No [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]
| Headshot a Cloaker when it is invisible in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Targetmaster]]!
| Kill two snipers in 5 seconds
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| There Are Parts Everywhere
| Multi-Kill 3 car soldiers at once using an explosive weapon in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blast-arachnia]]!
| Destroy 100 spider in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Fire in the Sky]]
| Melee kill a Jet Vehicle in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Friends to the End
| Complete a level in Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Unlikely Allies
| Complete a level in Competitive Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More Than Meets the Eye]]
| Earn a 1st Place MVP award in any Multiplayer mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got [[Spark]], Kid
| Reach level 5 in any single class in Multiplayer
| 5G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] BFF
| Reach a combined class of level of 25 in Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| The [[Kup (G1)|Kup's]] Half Full
| Reach a combined class level of 50 in Multiplayer
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Only the Strong Survive
| Reach a combined class level of 75 in Multiplayer
| 50G
| Silver
|-
| Top of the Scrap Heap
| Reach a combined class level of 100 in Multiplayer
| 75G
| Silver
|-
| [[Prime Directive]]
| Unlock Prime Mode
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Powermaster]]!
| Spend 25,000 power in Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Heavy Metal War]]
| Complete the 15th wave in Escalation
| 50G
| Gold
|-
| [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] Would Be Proud
| Destroy all hidden Autobot symbols in the Decepticon Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], Smash!
| Destroy all hidden Decepticon symbols in the Autobot Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Action Master]]
| Get 10 kills with a single detached turret in any mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Transformers: The Movie|Wait! I Still Function!]]
| Get 3 kills while downed in a Co-Op campaign or Escalation
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Ramhorn]]
| Ram-kill an enemy who is stunned by an EMP Grenade in Campaign or Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Vector Sigma]] Victory
| Unlock All Trophies
|
| Platinum
|-
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is multiplayer only, and only two of the four classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Reception==
The game has received many positive reviews from critics and fans alike. IGN has given the score 9/10 because of its "Great Presentation", "Fun Multiplayer", "Classy Fan Service", but subtracted from its score due to the "Repetitive Visuals".<ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p1.html IGN's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3, page 1]</ref><ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p2.html IGN's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3, page 2]</ref> GameRankings sums up the average score of numerous reviews with 79 points<ref>[http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/981364-transformers-war-for-cybertron/index.html GameRankings' archive of reviews for PS3 version of ''War for Cybertron'']</ref>, Metacritic averages 77 points<ref>[http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/transformerswarforcybertron Reviews for the PS3 version of ''War for Cybertron'' at Metacritic]</ref>, and other scores include 85 from GameInformer <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/ps3/archive/2010/06/22/review.aspx High Moon has the touch, from GameInformer]</ref>, B+ from 1UP.com<ref>[http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3180025&p=37&sec=REVIEWS 1up.com's review of ''War for Cybertron'' on PS3]</ref>, and 4 out of 5 stars from GamePro<ref>[http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/215618/transformers-war-for-cybertron/ Gamepro's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on PS3]</ref>. The lowest, however, is 6.5 from Gamespot, citing the weaknesses: "Lack of visual and gameplay variety in the campaign, Paucity of ammunition, Boss fights are incredibly tedious, Friendly and enemy AI is poor, Transformations are integrated poorly with the core action".<ref>[http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html Gamespot's review of ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' on the PS3]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]

{{DEFAULTSORT:War for Cybertron}}
[[Category:Video games]]

Omega Supreme (WFC)

2010-07-31T06:04:16Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Omega Supreme}}
:''Omega Supreme is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme.jpg|thumb|300px|So he can make portals now?]]

Striking fear into the [[spark]]s of ''almost'' every [[Decepticon]], '''Omega Supreme''' is the mightiest Autobot of them all. Charged with being the last line of defense for [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]], the Autobot capitol, and guarding the gateway to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s core, Omega Supreme is near-unstoppable in battle, relentless in his mission, and fearless in the face of danger.

{{quote|Omega activated. Power: Optimal. Mission: Destroy Megatron.|Omega Supreme, a bot of few words|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron''===
Omega Supreme was the legendary [[Guardian robot|Guardian]] of [[Crystal City]]. Having acquired the [[Code Key]]s of Power and Justice, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] opened the entrance to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] below the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]] to corrupt the [[Core]] of Cybertron with [[Dark Energon]]. [[Teletraan-1]] reactivated Omega Supreme to fly the Plasma Energy Chamber to safety. Omega was horrified to be informed by the [[Grid]] that the [[Decepticon]]s held eighty-five percent of the planet; that only three of the High Council lived and all of them were Decepticons; the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]] had been ejected from the [[Well of All Sparks]]; and Sentinel Prime was dying. He informed [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] he should have reactivated him sooner, though they had no idea he even existed, and Omega acknowledged it was because of Optimus that the Autobots held out for so long.

Omega tried to fly into space, where Teletraan-1 would give him instructions as to where to hide the Chamber, but [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]'s [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s attacked. Omega blew up two Seekers before his own nozzles were shot at and he reverted to robot mode and fell back into [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]]. [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] was horrified by the Guardian's destruction but fortunately, Omega survived the impact and inspired the Autobots to fight off the Decepticons seeking to gain the Chamber. Omega killed four [[Dark Energon]]-infused Decepticons, but Megatron hammered him in the knee causing him to collapse and allowing a swarm of gladiators to crawl on him. Omega fell, crushing the gladiators, but the Dark Energon left their bodies to power Megatron to the point he could turn Omega on his back. He threatened to slice his throat, but he only wanted the Chamber, and tore it out of Omega's body before escaping.

[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] repaired Omega Supreme, and he was able to fight when [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] emerged in the [[Mithric Sea]] when the Autobots left Cybertron on the ''[[Ark (Prime)|Ark]]''. He was left with [[Ultra Magnus (Prime)|Ultra Magnus]] and his Wreckers to deal with [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]]'s new regime. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)

Omega Supreme was the guardian of the [[Omega Gate]], which gave access to the Core of Cybertron. Omega lay inactive during the war until Megatron's forces invaded [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] seeking what they thought was the [[Omega Key]] (which would allow access to the Core), forcing [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] to activate the false Omega Key and awaken the sleeping giant. His mission: Destroy Megatron.

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme_vehicle.jpg|thumb|left|300px|]]

Omega followed the homing signal of the false key and destroyed the fleet of Decepticon ships Megatron was using to search for him. As the Decepticons were securing their wounded, the mighty Autobot attacked, destroying their rescue ship and killing the survivors. At first, the Decepticons seemingly defeated the Guardian of Iacon when they destroyed the supports for a section of bridge Omega was standing upon, but the Autobot returned with a vengeance, using his main gun to disintegrate what remained of the bridge and forcing Megatron's squad to flee to safety.

Omega Supreme attacked Megatron whereever he went, destroying a cargo lift the Decepticon rode, smashing his way through a tunnel and laying landmines upon a bridge that was the only route to safety. Eventually, Omega Supreme tracked the Decepticons to an Autobot anti-aircraft battery on a terrace and attacked with his main gun, heatseeking missiles, [[Aerialbot (Prime)|Aerialbots]] and briefly defending himself with an impenetrable energon barrier. However, the Decepticons discerned the pattern of Omega's attacks and breached his armour thanks to the terrace' turrets, forcing him to crash down into a sub-level of Iacon below.

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme_vs_Megatron_Breakdown.jpg|thumb|300px|Omega Supreme hates glitches.]]

Sure that the Autobot was destroyed and eager to get his hands on the means to open the Omega Gate, Megatron led his squad down, only to find that Omega Supreme had transformed and re-energized himself with energon batteries drawn from underground. Omega Supreme battered the Decepticons with a combination of missiles, laser turrets, his main gun and a powerful arm-mounted tractor beam, until [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] deduced that Omega's defensive weakness were his turrets - destroying them forced the Autobot guardian to draw upon the energon batteries to regenerate. Seizing the advantage, the Decepticons infected the batteries with a charge of Dark Energon, corrupting Omega Supreme's systems when he drained the batteries. While Omega dealt with the Dark Energon with a counter-virus, Megatron attacked, severely damaging the Autobot's armour. Down, but not out, Omega Supreme drew energy from Cybertron's core itself and unleashed a withering multitude of missiles upon the Decepticons. However, with his internal shielding exposed, Omega was vulnerable, and eventually the Decepticons brought him down by blasting his exposed chest cavity. Gloating in victory, Megatron blasted Dark Energon into Omega Supreme's chest, and the Autobot, helpless to fight against it, was corrupted. Omega Supreme was taken underground where he was forced to open the Omega Gate, allowing Megatron to corrupt Cybertron's core with Dark Energon.

The rumours of Omega Supreme and Zeta Prime's defeats spread through the Autobot camp, leaving the Autobots direction-less and dispirited. Just when hoped seemed to die for the Autobots, a new hero stepped up to lead them: [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], the last of the [[Prime (rank)|Primes]].

Charged by the [[Autobot High Council]] with destroying the infection to Cybertron's core, Optimus Prime lead a team consisting of [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] and [[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]] to the chamber outside the Omega Gate, where Omega Supreme was being imprisoned. There they found the Decepticons force-feeding the giant Autobot Dark Energon to prevent him from repairing himself and escaping his bonds. After his captors were destroyed, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] began repairing Omega Supreme's damage and Dark Energon corruption, but the party were set upon by dozens of Decepticon reinforcements. Just as they were attacked by a Decepticon [[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyer]], Omega Supreme regained enough functionality to smash the foe to pieces.

With the present Decepticon threat removed, Omega Supreme opened the Omega Gate to Cybertron's core. However, his systems were not yet fully operational, so Ratchet stated he would have to complete Omega's repairs at Autobot headquarters while Optimus and his team headed down into the depths of Cybertron. {{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Omega Supreme (WFC)

2010-07-31T06:01:50Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Omega Supreme}}
:''Omega Supreme is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme.jpg|thumb|300px|So he can make portals now?]]

Striking fear into the [[spark]]s of ''almost'' every [[Decepticon]], '''Omega Supreme''' is the mightiest Autobot of them all. Charged with being the last line of defense for [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]], the Autobot capitol, and guarding the gateway to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s core, Omega Supreme is near-unstoppable in battle, relentless in his mission, and fearless in the face of danger.

{{quote|Omega activated. Power: Optimal. Mission: Destroy Megatron.|Omega Supreme, a bot of few words|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron''===
Omega Supreme was the legendary [[Guardian robot|Guardian]] of [[Crystal City]]. Having acquired the [[Code Key]]s of Power and Justice, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] opened the entrance to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] below the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]] to corrupt the [[Core]] of Cybertron with [[Dark Energon]]. [[Teletraan-1]] reactivated Omega Supreme to fly the Plasma Energy Chamber to safety. Omega was horrified to be informed by the [[Grid]] that the [[Decepticon]]s held eighty-five percent of the planet; that only three of the High Council lived and all of them were Decepticons; the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]] had been ejected from the [[Well of All Sparks]]; and Sentinel Prime was dying. He informed [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] he should have reactivated him sooner, though they had no idea he even existed, and Omega acknowledged it was because of Optimus that the Autobots held out for so long.

Omega tried to fly into space, where Teletraan-1 would give him instructions as to where to hide the Chamber, but [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]'s [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s attacked. Omega blew up two Seekers before his own nozzles were shot at and he reverted to robot mode and fell back into [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]]. [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] was horrified by the Guardian's destruction but fortunately, Omega survived the impact and inspired the Autobots to fight off the Decepticons seeking to gain the Chamber. Omega killed four [[Dark Energon]]-infused Decepticons, but Megatron hammered him in the knee causing him to collapse and allowing a swarm of gladiators to crawl on him. Omega fell, crushing the gladiators, but the Dark Energon left their bodies to power Megatron to the point he could turn Omega on his back. He threatened to slice his throat, but he only wanted the Chamber, and tore it out of Omega's body before escaping.

[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] repaired Omega Supreme, and he was able to fight when [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] emerged in the [[Mithric Sea]] when the Autobots left Cybertron on the ''[[Ark (Prime)|Ark]]''. He was left with [[Ultra Magnus (Prime)|Ultra Magnus]] and his Wreckers to deal with [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]]'s new regime. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)

Omega Supreme was the guardian of the [[Omega Gate]], which gave access to the Core of Cybertron. Omega lay inactive during the war until Megatron's forces invaded [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] seeking what they thought was the [[Omega Key]] (which would allow access to the Core), forcing [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] to activate the false Omega Key and awaken the sleeping giant. His mission: Destroy Megatron.

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme_vehicle.jpg|thumb|left|300px|]]

Omega followed the homing signal of the false key and destroyed the fleet of Decepticon ships Megatron was using to search for him. As the Decepticons were securing their wounded, the mighty Autobot attacked, destroying their rescue ship and killing the survivors. At first, the Decepticons seemingly defeated the Guardian of Iacon when they destroyed the supports for a section of bridge Omega was standing upon, but the Autobot returned with a vengeance, using his main gun to disintegrate what remained of the bridge and forcing Megatron's squad to flee to safety.

Omega Supreme attacked Megatron whereever he went, destroying a cargo lift the Decepticon rode, smashing his way through a tunnel and laying landmines upon a bridge that was the only route to safety. Eventually, Omega Supreme tracked the Decepticons to an Autobot anti-aircraft battery on a terrace and attacked with his main gun, heatseeking missiles, [[Aerialbot (Prime)|Aerialbots]] and briefly defending himself with an impenetrable energon barrier. However, the Decepticons discerned the pattern of Omega's attacks and breached his armour thanks to the terrace' turrets, forcing him to crash down into a sub-level of Iacon below.

[[Image:WFC_OmegaSupreme_vs_Megatron_Breakdown.jpg|thumb|300px|]]

Sure that the Autobot was destroyed and eager to get his hands on the means to open the Omega Gate, Megatron led his squad down, only to find that Omega Supreme had transformed and re-energized himself with energon batteries drawn from underground. Omega Supreme battered the Decepticons with a combination of missiles, laser turrets, his main gun and a powerful arm-mounted tractor beam, until [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] deduced that Omega's defensive weakness were his turrets - destroying them forced the Autobot guardian to draw upon the energon batteries to regenerate. Seizing the advantage, the Decepticons infected the batteries with a charge of Dark Energon, corrupting Omega Supreme's systems when he drained the batteries. While Omega dealt with the Dark Energon with a counter-virus, Megatron attacked, severely damaging the Autobot's armour. Down, but not out, Omega Supreme drew energy from Cybertron's core itself and unleashed a withering multitude of missiles upon the Decepticons. However, with his internal shielding exposed, Omega was vulnerable, and eventually the Decepticons brought him down by blasting his exposed chest cavity. Gloating in victory, Megatron blasted Dark Energon into Omega Supreme's chest, and the Autobot, helpless to fight against it, was corrupted. Omega Supreme was taken underground where he was forced to open the Omega Gate, allowing Megatron to corrupt Cybertron's core with Dark Energon.

The rumours of Omega Supreme and Zeta Prime's defeats spread through the Autobot camp, leaving the Autobots direction-less and dispirited. Just when hoped seemed to die for the Autobots, a new hero stepped up to lead them: [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], the last of the [[Prime (rank)|Primes]].

Charged by the [[Autobot High Council]] with destroying the infection to Cybertron's core, Optimus Prime lead a team consisting of [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] and [[Warpath (Prime)|Warpath]] to the chamber outside the Omega Gate, where Omega Supreme was being imprisoned. There they found the Decepticons force-feeding the giant Autobot Dark Energon to prevent him from repairing himself and escaping his bonds. After his captors were destroyed, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] began repairing Omega Supreme's damage and Dark Energon corruption, but the party were set upon by dozens of Decepticon reinforcements. Just as they were attacked by a Decepticon [[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyer]], Omega Supreme regained enough functionality to smash the foe to pieces.

With the present Decepticon threat removed, Omega Supreme opened the Omega Gate to Cybertron's core. However, his systems were not yet fully operational, so Ratchet stated he would have to complete Omega's repairs at Autobot headquarters while Optimus and his team headed down into the depths of Cybertron. {{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Barricade (WFC)

2010-07-31T05:58:00Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Barricade}}
:''Barricade is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCBarricade.jpg|300px|thumb|Stop stealing [[Breakdown (Prime)|poses]] Barricade!]]

'''Barricade''' is a true speed demon, powering his engine to speeds faster than some jets. He is a brutal leader on the battlefield, scolding Decepticons that don't perform up to his and [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron's]] standards. His favorite tactic is to goad [[Autobot]]s into transforming and chasing him, then taking them on fatal routes that only he can navigate.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===
Barricade ran the day-to-day events of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial ring]]/revolutionary movement/emerging army. When [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] came to [[Kaon]] for his first face-to-face meeting with Megatron, Barricade and [[Lugnut (Prime)|Lugnut]] "greeted" him at the entrance to their headquarters. Throughout Orion's tour of the headquarters, Barricade followed and got lippy with the archivist, but was rather curtly cut off by Megatron. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]] (English)

During the final days of the war against the Autobots, Barricade was part of the bridge crew of a Decepticon starcruiser under the command of their leader, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], serving alongside [[Brawl (Prime)|Brawl]]. Megatron planned to steal the last remaining supply of [[Dark Energon]] from an orbiting relay station guarded by the neutral Sky Commander [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. After gaining entry into the station (by ramming the ship into the station; talk about a barricade), Barricade accompanied Megatron and Brawl into Starscream's station to gain control of the last remaining supply of Dark Energon, so that Megatron could use the corrupted, highly dangerous energy source to 'save' Cybertron. Yeah, it wasn't a very good plan. While fighting through the station, and hordes of Starscream's soldiers, Barricade expressed doubts that Dark Energon was everything Megatron believed it to be, and also that the station was ''totally'' old and decrepit, though Megatron said he had plans to [[Trypticon (Prime)|upgrade]] the station. Despite his skepticism, Barricade helped Megatron secure the supply of Dark Energon, and it would seem his skepticism about the Dark Energon was silenced when Megatron infused him with its power.

{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
* Barricade is based on his [[Barricade (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] while borrowing some design cues from the [[Barricade (Movie)|live-action film version]].

[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Jetfire (WFC)

2010-07-31T05:41:05Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Jetfire}}
:''Jetfire is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCJetfire.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Wikipedia:Kamen Rider Ixa|Decepticon, please return that soul to God]]...wait, do I believe in [[Primus|God]].]]
'''Jetfire''' is a dedicated scientist whose personal upgrades to his chassis have made him the fastest Autobot on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. He has a strong moral compass, which led to his fallout with his friend [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and does not believe in gray areas when making major decisions.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron''===
Jetfire was a [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] who defected from the [[Decepticon]]s to the [[Autobot]]s. He spent most of his time in a laboratory trying to further exploit the Autobots' flight capabilities – a scientific dead end, but one [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] placed great hope in. He was absent when [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] entered [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] and stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], but accompanied Optimus with [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] as back-up during the rescue of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] from [[Kaon]]. They then moved to rid the [[Dark Energon]] from the [[core]] of Cybertron. While descending, Jetfire was tempted to try some Dark Energon, but Optimus told him if he did, Prime would have to kill him.

Once at the core, Optimus removed the Chamber and was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]], as well as orders to evacuate the planet as it began repairing itself. Optimus launched Project Generation One, which [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] dubbed the ''[[Ark (Prime)|Ark]]''. Jetfire found the notion suicidal, but agreed to help and gave the Autobots time to complete the ''Ark'' by creating a diversion. [[Aerialbot (Prime)|Aerialbot]]s and Seekers under his guidance gathered every space-worthy ship in the ruins of [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]], while Jetfire picked the ''[[Eight Track]]'' for himself to captain.

After drawing out [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]], Jetfire evaded the Station's detection system by flying in and out of the Asteroid Belt. He slowly but surely bolted the ''Eight Track'' with an ingress tube on to an unguarded part of the Station, allowing the Autobots to enter and blow up the Dark Energon Facility. Jetfire managed to detach the ship in time before Trypticon crashed in the [[Mithril Sea|Mithric Sea]]. However, Trypticon survived and transformed, and Jetfire refused a place on the ''Ark'' to distract the monster with the flight-capable [[Wrecker]] [[Springer (Prime)|Springer]]. Megatron's elite entered Trypticon, who transformed into the ''Nemesis'' and flew after the ''Ark'', leaving Jetfire on Cybertron with the Wreckers, [[Omega Supreme (Prime)|Omega Supreme]] and [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] to deal with [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]]'s forces. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Troy Baker]] (English), [[Gabriele Calindri]] (Italian)
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Troy Baker (English), Gabriele Calindri (Italian)
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category:Prime characters]]
[[Category:Scientists]]
[[Category:Seekers]]

Optimus Prime (WFC)

2010-07-31T05:35:55Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}
:''Optimus Prime is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]

'''Orion Pax''' was a lowly archivist, but it wasn't until he heard of a rogue gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was unsatisfied with his lot in life. Freedom to make your own choice should be the right of all sentient beings! Little did Orion Pax realize that his boss, [[Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the archivist, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice.

Once Megatron and Orion discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, Orion was dubbed by the [[Autobot High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], '''Optimus Prime'''. The coming battles for determination of Cybertron's future were costly, but Optimus is determined to thwart his former friend's attempts at universal subjugation, no matter where in the galaxy their conflict takes them.

{{bigquote|We will wage our battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons wherever it may take us. And one day, we will go home.|Optimus Prime|''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron|Exodus]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===
Like all Cybertronians, when Orion Pax emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]], he was taught how to transform, to select a natural [[alternate mode]], and was put in a [[caste system|caste]]. Orion worked at the [[Hall of Records]], where he befriended the cultural investigator [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]]. Orion would read and index information, but was forbidden to analyze. He began monitoring transmissions on the [[Grid]] by the [[Kaon]]ian gladiator [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]us, who preached a message of individual freedom that flew in the face of their society. Moved by what the gladiator had to say, and realizing his own dissatisfactions in life - namely that his caste was generally not allowed to visit [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]] - Orion began a secret correspondence with Megatronus, who had shortened his name to Megatron. They had intense but friendly debates over the nature of free will and the dangerousness of their ideals, and Megatron suggested Orion learn how to fight for his beliefs. Orion began training with Jazz, learning to fire an [[ion blaster|ion-cannon]] and to fashion his arms into an [[energon-axe|axe]] and a [[Dual Energon Swords|sword]].

Orion made his first trip to Kaon to meet Megatron in person at his base. Megatron was the only gladiator who gave Orion a warm welcome. It was then terrorists began bombings in Megatron's name. Megatron made his first public announcement on the Grid, stating he was not responsible for the attacks and would bring the perpetrators to justice, and Orion followed him up with a speech of his own. When he returned to [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]], [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] asked Orion why he trusted Megatron: Orion found it hard to explain but felt if Megatron were responsible for the attacks he would have wanted to be associated with them. Later, when [[Shockwave (Prime)|Shockwave]] took him to meet Megatron at an arena beneath Iacon's Observatory, Orion was shocked to see Jazz in attendance, and that Megatron had heard rumors about the bombings but did nothing to prevent them.

When "[[Decepticon]]s" kidnapped [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], Orion requested Alpha Trion make the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] grant an audience with him and Megatron now that most Cybertronians blamed them and wanted their heads. Megatron also requested Orion investigate the history of ''[[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon Station]]'', a base his ally [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] had made home, though Orion's research led to dead ends. During their hearing in the [[Hall of Justice]], Orion rigorously defended their ideals, even reviving the ancient philosophical phrase "[[Autobot]]s" to describe the autonomy his brethren sought. It was then Councillor [[Halogen]] declared Orion the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]: Optimus Prime. An outraged Megatron accused his brother of treachery, and then murdered Halogen. When Optimus ordered the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] to not harm Megatron, Megatron declared Optimus had fallen into the trappings of power the High Council had foistered upon him, and those in attendance dispersed, with the planet forever divided into Autobots and Decepticons.

Optimus forgoed the first engagement of the war, allowing the Decepticons to take [[Fort Scyk]] so he would gain time to recruit more Autobots. Optimus learned from Jazz after the fall of Scyk that he would have to learn to not mourn every soldier. Optimus fought for the first time during the next battle, the siege of the [[Hydrax Plateau]]. The first Cybertronian he ever killed was a former industrial drone named [[Drixco]]. Afterwards Optimus confided to Alpha Trion that the act of killing alone made him feel he was on the wrong side. Despite the efforts of Optimus and [[Ultra Magnus (Prime)|Ultra Magnus]] the Decepticons conquered the Hydrax Plateau. It was at the stalemate of [[Praxus]] that Optimus gained the indispensable allies [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]]. The first Autobot victory was at [[Kalis]], a vital area due to its fusion reactor that powered Iacon. Optimus, Jazz and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] worked together to bring down the monstrous [[Bruticus Maximus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]], but the battle was mostly won due to the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s' absence. As Energon depleted, the war descended into a mere siege of Iacon lasting millions of cycles, and Optimus opted to eject the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]] itself into space: during this battle Optimus gained another great friend in [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]].

While visiting the Hall of Records during the siege, Alpha Trion revealed that it was him who suggested that the High Council appoint Orion Pax Prime. Alpha Trion added he believed the High Council would've come to the same conclusion that Orion was the Prime that would save Cybertron from civil war, as foretold in the [[Covenant of Primus]]. He cited Optimus' own intuition and empathy when investigating Megatron before the war, when any other archivist would've just passed on the transmissions for a superior to investigate. Later in the lull of the war, Alpha Trion revealed he had deleted most of the information surrounding ''Trypticon'' for it was a store of [[Dark Energon]], the essence of [[Unicron]], and sensed the Decepticons had found it. Indeed, Decepticons using the powerful narcotic appeared on the battlefield routing Autobot patrols, but Optimus wisely predicted it was an inefficient resource that would run out soon. However, to their horror Megatron and Starscream infiltrated [[Teletraan-1]] to steal the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], and although Teletraan-1 awakened the legendary [[Omega Supreme (Prime)|Omega Supreme]] to ferry the Chamber to safety, the Dark Energon-powered Decepticons overpowered the Autobots and used the Chamber, in concert with the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]], to corrupt the [[Core]] of Cybertron and spread Dark Energon across the planet.

It was while battling for the Plasma Energy Chamber that Megatron revealed he had killed Sentinel Prime within Iacon for access it below the High Council Tower. Afterwards Prowl picked up a message from Sentinel on the Grid, and Optimus, realizing he had not found Sentinel's body in Iacon, deduced Sentinel was alive and in Kaon. When Optimus, Jazz and Prowl rescued him, they found Kaon strangely deserted, only battling two gibbering guards. Optimus believed Dark Energon was having a severe effect on Decepticon morale. When they found Sentinel, he was dying, and said he regretted his overlong reign as Prime, and that the High Council had might the right decision in appointing Optimus Prime. He finally told him he had to go to the Core and purge its corruption of Dark Energon.

After Sentinel's funeral in Iacon, where Optimus was officially appointed Prime after holding the de facto position for so long, he journeyed to the Core with Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] and removed the Plasma Energy Chamber. It was then a voice from the Core told Optimus he was too late, and the Autobots would have to leave Cybertron as the planet healed itself. But it finally bestowed upon him the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the essence of [[Primus]], explaining that while Sentinel lived, he was still Prime, and that he had been unworthy of the Matrix. It told him that when the day came that they would return to Cybertron, the Core and the Matrix would restore the planet and Optimus would lead the Autobots in an "age of unimagined wonders". It was then Optimus launched [[Ark (Prime)|Project Generation One]], to build a ship — that Jazz dubbed the ''Ark'' — to take them to the stars, a plan some Autobots objected to.

But before their exodus, Optimus planned to fool Megatron by gathering every spaceworthy vessel and having them rendezvouz at what was apparently the last remaining [[space bridge]] in orbit. Megatron ordered ''Trypticon'' fire on the ships, but Optimus ordered a fallback and he, Jetfire, Jazz, Ironhide, Prowl, Sideswipe and Bumblebee flew the ''[[Eight Track]]'' to enter a weak spot in ''Trypticon''. Battling the drones Shockwave had installed within, the crew knocked ''Trypticon'' from orbit, crashing into the [[Mithric Sea]]. Optimus's team returned to find the ''Ark'' ready at the Well of All Sparks, but Trypticon survived the impact and transformed to attack. Jetfire, Magnus and his Wreckers including [[Springer (Prime)|Springer]] and a repaired Omega Supreme declared they would remain on Cybertron if only to fight off the titanic monster. Optimus also bade farewell to Alpha Trion, who believed [[Vector Sigma]] would protect him when the rest of the planet would be unable to sustain life: it was then Optimus realized Alpha Trion was one of the [[thirteen original Transformers]].

Yet as the ''Ark'' took off the Decepticons overran Iacon and Megatron and his elite boarded Trypticon, who transformed into a ''Nemesis''-class cruiser and pursued the Autobots. Megatron used his and Orion's old frequency to inform Optimus that he would pursue him across the stars and eventually kill him. The ''Ark'' entered the last space bridge and emerged with the ''Nemesis'' gone. They were near a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] and Prowl detected the AllSpark. Knowing the Matrix within would help them find a way home, Optimus vowed that the Autobots would continue to wage their battle across the stars. {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)
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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)
[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Welcome to the ''Twilight Zone'' prime.]]
In the waning days of the war for Cybertron, Optimus was able to spot a little yellow Autobot in trouble, and defeated the surrounding drone forces. [[Ratchet (Prime)| Ratchet]] arrived on the scene, and Optimus helped up the Autobot, who revealed his name was [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]. Bumblebee informed Optimus that the Decepticons took control of communication relays, and that the only way to contact him was by messenger. He then told Optimus that their leader, [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]], was dead. Optimus suspected [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], then was informed that the [[Autobot High Council]] went into hiding because of this. Optimus then said that the Council will emerge during a safer time, and formulated a team with Bumblebee and Ratchet.

They drove to the [[Decagon]], where they found [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] battling the forces of [[Starscream (Prime)| Starscream]]. After assissting him in defeating Starscream's army, they confronted Starscream himself. After combatting Starscream, a hologram of Zeta Prime's face appeared in the center of the room, stating that he was being held in a [[Kaon]] prison complex. Optimus and his team raced to the Kaon prison, allowing themselves to be captured so that they can infiltrate the facility. A number of Deceticon drones surrounded them, but were saved in time by [[Air Raid (Prime)| Air Raid]]. However, Air Raid was then captured. While sneaking through the corridors, the three managed to free Air Raid, [[Arcee (Prime)| Arcee]], and others. They continued through the hallways, and finally found the room where Zeta was being held. Suddenly, a small rectangular object fired sonic booms at them, then transformed and revealed itself to be [[Soundwave (Prime)| Soundwave]]. The Decepticon cowered behind a force field and some turrets, and occasionally released [[Frenzy (Prime)| Frenzy]], [[Rumble (Prime)| Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)| Laserbeak]] outside of the field. Soundwave took time to repair these drones, and the team shot at him while he did so. Eventually, Soundwave and the drone trio escaped, and Optimus looked to Zeta Prime, saying that he will free him. However, Zeta says he is already dead, and dies.

Optimus brings Zeta's corpse to the site of the hiding High Council, where he lay the dead body in the center of the room. Optimus states that the Autobots crave their guidance, but the Council states that their mission is to choose the Primes, not to lead them. They then tell him that Optimus himself is a Prime, and that he has changed the lives around him. Optimus was then told that Megatron had corrupted the core of Cybertron, and that he was the one that could remove this blight. He takes this burden and responsibility, then is told by the Council that he is now Optimus ''Prime'', the last Prime.

The team ventures to entrance of the core, where a corrupted [[Omega Supreme (Prime)| Omega Supreme]] is being tortured. The Autobots defeated the torturers and freed Omega Supreme from the Dark Energon influence. Omega Supreme escapes, and the Autobots find some [[Space slug| space slugs]] to use as steeds. They defeated a corrupted slug, and finally reached the core.

The core told Optimus that it was too corrupted. Optimus asked for a solution, and the core responded that the only way was to reboot, which will take millions of years. Optimus decides that all Autobots should leave their home. Before shutting down, the core reveals the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which it installs it inside Optimus Prime's chest.

He arrived back at Iacon, where he orders all Autobots to evacuate the planet. Megatron then appears on the viewscreen, who says that all to stay and defy him were going to die, and fired a massive cannon installed in the Dark Energon space station. Optimus Prime ordered his Air Commander [[Silverbolt (Prime)|Silverbolt]] to shut down the cannon with his team. They suceed, and the station crashes into Iacon. Optimus, Bumblebee, and Ironhide discover that the "space station" isn't a space station at all: it was the giant Decepticon, [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]. They managed to defeat the heavily-armed menace, who plunged into a pool of energon. The Autobots shortly celebrate their victory, but notice that ''they'' have to evacuate as well. Optimus reveals a massive starship they will use called the Ark, a ship still under construction that will allow them to take a part of Cybertron with them across the galaxy.

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{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)

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{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]
*'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' "blaster" rifle

: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an "armored truck mode." His rifle transforms as well, halving itself and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into either of his forearms, and in its compacted configuration, it can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. Optimus also has the stylized Autobot insignia on his back as seen in the game, but it gets masked by alt-mode kibble.

:As with, it seems, every modern toy, the instructions fail to show all features of the toy. In this case, neither the instructions nor any promotional photography seem to show that Optimus Prime's knees can rotate out to form a back bumper with tail lights in vehicle mode.

: Oddly, the toy itself & the cardbox art showed Optimus Prime has 4 fingers on each hand, while in the video game it's showed clearly that Optimus Prime has 5 fingers in each hand.

:Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys"R"Us]].

[[Category: Autobot leaders]]
[[Category: Generations]]
[[Category: Matrix bearers]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Talk:Grimlock (WFC)

2010-07-30T16:57:34Z

Saberblade:

A question to anyone who played the DS: the article says Grimlock is "dim-witted." So is he portrayed like the very dim Cartoon Grimlock? and not the more intelligent but agressively brutish Comic Grimmy? Just trying to get a feel for how he's written in his only Prime appearence so far. --[[Special:Contributions/99.90.240.61|99.90.240.61]] 16:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:In the DS game he is "dim-witted" like the cartoon --[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:45,23 July 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Grimlock (WFC)

2010-07-30T16:47:22Z

Saberblade:

A question to anyone who played the DS: the article says Grimlock is "dim-witted." So is he portrayed like the very dim Cartoon Grimlock? and not the more intelligent but agressively brutish Comic Grimmy? Just trying to get a feel for how he's written in his only Prime appearence so far. --[[Special:Contributions/99.90.240.61|99.90.240.61]] 16:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:In the DS game he does have his "dim-witted" cartoon persona --[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:45,23 July 2010 (EDT)

Grimlock (WFC)

2010-07-28T23:16:30Z

Saberblade: New page: {{faction|autobot}} {{disambig3|Grimlock}} {{mainpic}} '''Grimlock''' is a dim-witted yet powerful soldier in the autob...

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'''Grimlock''' is a dim-witted yet powerful soldier in the autobot army.He likes when things go his way;including his craving to be the autobot leader.He is good friends with [[Swoop (Prime)]] and wields his prized energon sword in battle.
==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[ Crispin Freeman]] (English)

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-07-25T15:06:34Z

Saberblade: /* Comics */ new section

== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

I just played through the whole game - This game could not be any more G1 even if it tried harder. I don't see how this can be in the same continuity as TF:Prime when it's so undeniably G1. It belongs as part of the G1 continuity family not TF:Prime which appears to be it's own movie inspired continuity. The game is not like Animated in which it 'borrows and adapts' elements from G1, this game actually is G1 down to how characters are portrayed and roles they are assigned as well as the story telling structure. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27|04:40, 11 July 2010 (EDT)}}
:How do you know it's not like Prime? Character designs? Pah. I could use that strawman to declare the Don Figueroa era of the Ongoing an AU too, you know, or TF: Bumblebee being non-canon with said Ongoing. We know next to nothing about TF: Prime, you have no basis whatsoever to say it can't be just as heavily G1-inspired as WFC is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:57, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

How can you tell that it is? We had two conflicting official sources one saying that it is and one saying that it isn't. I rather go by what the game developers say than what Hasbro marketing says thank you very much. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}
:The game developers are saying that it's G1 so it sells better. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:25, 11 July 2010 (EDT)
:Well, that's your prerogative, but I'd think as Hasbro, the guys who license Transformers out to places like Atari and Activision and IDW, would know more about what fits where than Activision/High Moon Studios would. Perhaps the developpers initially wanted to go the "Generation 1" route, but then Hasbro saw the storyline and thought it fit just as well in "Prime" and decided to announce it as such to help promote the new show. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:26, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

I have a feeling that when TF:Prime finally arrives it will make absolutely no reference whatsoever to WFC and at the end of the day it was just marketing guys talking. I played the game, the game is clearly designed to be G1 despite what Hasbro may blab on about. {{unsigned|Same dude who can't sign his posts}}
:Please. At this point G1 had so many alternate interpretations it's impossible for anything to be qualified as "clearly G1". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:46, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

But all the interpretations are regarded as G1. Animated isn't G1, Unicron Trilogy isn't G1 and so on. It is very clear what is G1 and what isn't. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}}

Sign your posts! And look, right now, Hasbro is the authority on Transformers. Right now, Hasbro declares WFC part of Prime. Right now, Prime is not G1. So right now, we have WFC separate from G1. If ever the line is blurred or those statements clearly contradicted, we'll give you a call and change it. Until then, this is the safest and easiest way for us to document the new stuff and it's not going to get changed because one anon doesn't agree. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 08:31, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

Just voicing my views not requesting change. No need to be so defensive and I am yet to see anything solid from Hasbro saying that this is part of TF: Prime and something tells me that we won't. Personally I believe that calling WFC as part of TF:Prime is premature.

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream (Prime)|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

==James Remar==
So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
: I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
:I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010
:The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

== Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==

Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== G1? ==

This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)
:We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling "canon". Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)
:It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD.
::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)
: If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}
::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
: Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::"Forget Hasbro"? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word "said" is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
(sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== pages ==

When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. "Your patience will be rewarded." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== DLC ==
Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)
:Dude, please. It's perfectly fine to ask for an article to be brought up to date, but it's pointless to tell anyone "shouldn't we complete this article". There's tons of articles to complete and whoever's on it is on it. If no one's on it yet, someone will be on it later. If you feel there's information missing, information you have access to, you can always try add it yourself. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:12, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== hmmmm? ==
Question!Question!so ummmm...would WFC really go on the same page as the prime series due to the differences in storyline because it seems like it they would have different pages.Can someone please explain why because its kinda confusing.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:04,July 8 2010 (EDT)
:No. WFC is a version of Prime, so it goes on the Prime pages under its own section. The same way the cartoon, Marvel, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, IDW are all versions of G1 and so go on the G1 pages. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)
ohhhh,okay thank you.-- [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:15, 8 July 2010 (EDT)

== Title ==

Given the way things are generally named on this wiki, shouldn't this article just be titled 'War for Cybertron' rather than 'Transformers: War for Cybertron'? --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 07:17, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

The title of the game is ''Transformers:War for Cybertron'' right?So we should go by the title of the game. [[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:25, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
:Did a quick check of a few things.... Franchises tend to have the "Transformers" removed from the title (except Animated, mainly because it would just look funny), as do comic books (see [[Infiltration]] etc.). Video games tend to keep the "Transformers" prefix (except for ROTF, where most of the games drop it). It seems that policy is somewhat vague. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 00:53, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

== Links in Transformers references ==

Why is it that for things like "Brute-a-kiss" and "Devastator!" we link to the original (mostly G1) versions and not the disambiguation pages? For "Motormaster!", I can understand since until the game, there was only one Motormaster, but "Blast-a-rachnia" could easily be a reference to the Animated character and not just the BW one. Would it make more sense to link to the disambiguation pages for some of them, or am I alone? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 10:05, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Comics ==

Well I see the point about the game not being a prequel to the G1 cartoon.So how about the dreamwave comics or something?Hasbro doesn't seem to ever care about storylines making sense; so why should we consider them tie-ins because they want to sell toys?Shouldn't we look into other universes other than the cartoon.The Marvel Comics continuity for instance. --[[User:saberblade]] 10:52, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

User:Saberblade

2010-07-19T21:03:30Z

Saberblade: /* Favorite Transformers */

== User ==
My name is Saberblade...yeah... not much to add in at this point...so ummm...how about those knicks...

== Favorite Transformers ==
[[Hot Rod (G1)]],
[[Optimus Prime (G1)]],
[[Brawl (Prime)]],
[[Soundwave (G1)]],
[[The Fallen]],
[[Warpath (G1)]],
[[Wheeljack (G1)]],
[[Prowl (G1)]],
[[Air Raid (Prime)]],
[[Ratchet (Prime)]],
and [[Breakdown (Prime)]]

== Edits ==
I've done 30 edits at this point apparently.Go Mets!

Bumblebee (WFC)

2010-07-18T17:30:40Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Bumblebee}}
:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|"Autobots.. [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?"]]]]

'''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[Allspark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, to take whatever risk and make whatever sacrifice necessary to win the war. He can always be counted on to volunteer for action and his small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger. Bumblebee is an opponent it would be easy to underestimate, but anyone who does so is likely to pay a steep price.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===
{{charstubfiction}}
Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Transformers born on the world prior to [[Well of Allsparks]] ceasing to generate new life. He was a friend of [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]] and went with him to the illegal gladiatorial matches beneath Iacon on at least one occassion.
{{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' ???
{{comingsoon}}
{{-}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

[[Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.|1920 × 1080 - 288k - jpg|thumb|300px|]]

During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.

Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. When Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. However, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After fighting off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Heading to rescue Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility and wouldn't be freed by opening the locks. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
{{charstubfiction}}
{{-}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' Johnny Yong Bosch (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}
{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in Tron 3.0.]]
*'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' handgun

: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a "Cybertronian courier mode." His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun (described in the packaging only as "weapon") can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode.

:Bumblebee is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronic [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold will be retooled into [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generations]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Rumble (WFC)

2010-07-18T17:00:09Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Rumble}}
:''Rumble is a [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFC Rumble intro.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Look everyone; no hands!]]
As a loyal Mini-Con warrior under [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s command, '''Rumble''' loves using his quake-producing armament to shake up the opposition. Though he is most often found by the side (or rather, ''inside'') of his powerful commander, Rumble can be a surprisingly effective warrior on his own, throwing even warriors like [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#War for Cybertron video game|Optimus]] for a tumble!

He is [[FIRRIB|blue!]]

{{bigquote|Get ready to ''crumble''... before ''Rumble!''|Rumble on his own awesomeness|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron''===
{{spoiler|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron|July 22}}
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Silverstein]] (English)

{{spoiler|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|July 23}}

Following the defeat of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] in the [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Vaults, the [[Autobot]] leader was transferred to [[Kaon]] prison facility where he was tortured by Soundwave. In the hopes of luring [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] to Kaon, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and Soundwave orchestrated events that allowed Zeta Prime to send a message to the Autobots revealing of his survival. Even though the Autobots recognized it for the trap it was, Optimus nevertheless led [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sidewipe]] allowing themselves to be captured and briefly imprisoned. They broke free, releasing all of the other Autobots in the prison and fought their way to Soundwave's laboratory. Soundwave protected himself behind an impenetrable forcefield and unleashed Rumble, [[Frenzy (Prime)|Frenzy]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] upon the Autobots. Any attempt by Optimus and his team to free Zeta was met with a gleeful attack by Rumble and his compatriots. However, when they received damage, Soundwave was forced to leave his protective shield to administer repairs, leaving him open to attack. Eventually, Soundwave and his minions were soon overwhelmed and had to retreat but not before mortally wounding Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
{{-}}

[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category:Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Prime characters]]

User:Saberblade

2010-07-18T05:44:23Z

Saberblade:

== User ==
My name is Saberblade...yeah... not much to add in at this point...so ummm...how about those knicks...

== Favorite Transformers ==
[[Hot Rod (G1)]],
[[Optimus Prime (G1)]],
[[Brawl (Prime)]],
[[Soundwave (G1)]],
[[The Fallen]],
[[Warpath (G1)]],
[[Wheeljack (G1)]],
and [[Prowl (G1)]]

== Edits ==
I've done 30 edits at this point apparently.Go Mets!

User:Saberblade

2010-07-18T05:39:45Z

Saberblade: /* User */

User:Saberblade

2010-07-18T05:37:14Z

Saberblade:

== User ==
My name is Saberblade...yeah...

== Favorite Transformers ==
[[Hot Rod (G1)]],
[[Optimus Prime (G1)]],
[[Brawl (Prime)]],
[[Soundwave (G1)]],
[[The Fallen]],
[[Warpath (G1)]],
[[Wheeljack (G1)]],
and [[Prowl (G1)]]

Air Raid (WFC)

2010-07-18T05:18:17Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron| War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCAirRaid.jpg|thumb|300px|Now equipped with shoulder mounted ovens.]]
'''Air Raid''' is a headstrong member of the Autobot [[flier (WFC)|flier]]s who would rather fly into a group of Decepticons instead of gunning them from afar because it's more fun. This attitude often puts him and his comrades in danger, though he almost as often tends to get them out of it.

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Liam O'Brien]] (English)

{{spoiler|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|July 23}}

During the Decepticons' assault on Iacon, Air Raid and [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] assisted [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] by fighting off hordes of aerial Decepticons. As part of Optimus's plan to rescue [[Zeta Prime]] from imprisonment, he and some other Autobots were arrested and taken to Kaon. Just as they were about to be "recycled", Air Raid came from behind and shot the would-be executioner. However, Air Raid was captured. Optimus, [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]], and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] managed to rescue Air Raid, who showed them a way to Zeta Prime and helped fight off more Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

{{charstubfiction}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Liam O'Brien (English)
During the Great War, Air Raid acted as a trainer for new recruits, leading them around a course and instructing them in basic combat.
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category:Prime characters]]

Air Raid (WFC)

2010-07-18T05:17:29Z

Saberblade:

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron| War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCAirRaid.jpg|thumb|300px|Now equipped with shoulder mounted micro-waves.]]
'''Air Raid''' is a headstrong member of the Autobot [[flier (WFC)|flier]]s who would rather fly into a group of Decepticons instead of gunning them from afar because it's more fun. This attitude often puts him and his comrades in danger, though he almost as often tends to get them out of it.

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Liam O'Brien]] (English)

{{spoiler|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|July 23}}

During the Decepticons' assault on Iacon, Air Raid and [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] assisted [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] by fighting off hordes of aerial Decepticons. As part of Optimus's plan to rescue [[Zeta Prime]] from imprisonment, he and some other Autobots were arrested and taken to Kaon. Just as they were about to be "recycled", Air Raid came from behind and shot the would-be executioner. However, Air Raid was captured. Optimus, [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]], and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] managed to rescue Air Raid, who showed them a way to Zeta Prime and helped fight off more Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

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During the Great War, Air Raid acted as a trainer for new recruits, leading them around a course and instructing them in basic combat.
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Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

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You do not need to try THREE TIMES to post a comment on a discussion page. All that does is prevent a speedy response from anyone. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:52, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
:Three times? So I cant go back and edit my comments?--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 08:57, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
::You need to slow down and make sure you are saying what you want to say before you post it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:12, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
My bad.I forgot to start a new sentence.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 12:28, 15 2010 (EDT)

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2010-07-15T13:00:07Z

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Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:49:54Z

Saberblade: /* Why */

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)
: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
Yes that's true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:49:21Z

Saberblade: /* Why */

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)
: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
Yes that's true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

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'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)
: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
Yes that's true; but Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:48:03Z

Saberblade: /* Why */

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)
: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF's filming. Guess who wasn't in the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)
Yes that's true; but Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[Saberblade|saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:23:24Z

Saberblade: /* Why */

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:22:50Z

Saberblade: /* Names */

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Why ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them[ so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-07-15T05:22:11Z

Saberblade: /* Names */ new section

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)
:::Pretty! We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I'm just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Did I say 'grainy'? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Names ==

So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can't add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them[ so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don't start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T19:23:48Z

Saberblade: /* Notes */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As one of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friends, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide led a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (successfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]]; Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged; Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.
*His voice sounds like a combination of Movie [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and the G1 cartoon [[Ironhide (G1)]].Choose your side.
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T19:10:21Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As one of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friends, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide led a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (successfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]]; Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged; Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T19:10:04Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As one of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friends, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide led a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (succesfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]]; Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged; Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T19:09:20Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As one of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friends, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide led a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (succesfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged; Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:46:18Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (succesfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged; Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:44:57Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to lead the others to (succesfully) push the Decepticons into retreat.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay).When the Decepticon orbital cannon called ''Trypticon'' emerged Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:38:14Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to (successfully) lead till the decepticons retreated.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime)]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay) and when the Decepticon orbital cannon Trypticon emerged Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:37:52Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to (successfully) lead till the decepticons retreated.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and [[Warpath (Prime]] joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay) and when the Decepticon orbital cannon Trypticon emerged Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:37:06Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of Autobots to defend the decagon during the Decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to (successfully) lead till the decepticons retreated.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and Warpath joined him in clearing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which would take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(to Ironhides dismay) and when the Decepticon orbital cannon Trypticon emerged Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Ironhide (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:30:56Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) */

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Ironhide}}
:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IronhideWFCArt.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"And that's the bottom line, 'cause Ironhide said so."]]

'''Ironhide''' is a battle hardened veteran, one of the toughest amongst the Autobots. As [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus']] oldest and closest friend, Ironhide saw the great potential within Optimus to be more than what he allowed himself to be.

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Szarabajka]]

Ironhide lead a squad of autobots to defend the decagon during the decepticons invasion of Iacon.After helping Optimus and his team by clearing a path for them, he continued to (successfully) lead till the decepticons retreated.After Optimus became [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] Ironhide and Warpath joined him in cleansing the core of cybertron that was infected with [[Dark Energon]].After performing their job successfully and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug along the way it turned out that the core of cybertron was doomed anyway and that the only way for it to survive was for it to deactivate itself which will take millions of years.Bummer.Anyway after Prime received the matrix of leadership from the core, Prime ordered a planetwide evacuation of all autobots(much to Ironhides dismay) and when the decepticon orbital cannon Trypticon emerged Ironhide was part of the main force that took down the titan and bore witness with his brothers as the [[Ark (Prime)]] was being prepared.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Autobot (DS)'' ===

{{charstubfiction}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*He greeted the space slug with the [[Universal greeting|Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Character stubs missing fiction]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]

Warpath (WFC)

2010-07-12T18:07:15Z

Saberblade: /* Transformers: War for Cybertron */

{{disambig3|Warpath}}
{{faction|autobot}}
:''Warpath is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC-Warpath.jpg|right|thumb|300px|BAM! POW! SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT?]]

'''Warpath''' is brash and boastful, always keen to show off his prowess with his giant cannon. Not only is it violently powerful, but it's extremely accurate, even over a range of a mile and a half. It gives him the confidence to charge headlong into battle against the [[Decepticon]]s. Unfortunately said cannon has also made him slightly deaf, so speak up, would ya?

{{quote|I've got only one setting, old timer: KABLAAM!|Warpath to [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]]|[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]}}

==Video games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jamieson Price]]
Warpath was amoung the many autobots who defended the decagon during the decepticon evasion of Iacon and he helped clear a path for [[Optimus Prime (Prime)]] (who was not yet prime) and his team.After Optimus DID become Prime after the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]], Warpath joined Prime and [[Ironhide (Prime)]] to Cybertrons infected core.After succesfully cleansing out the core and defeating a corrupted Spaceslug it turns out that their journey was pointless and that the core must deactivate its self in order for the planet to survive which will take millions of years.As Warpath and Ironhide displayed worried glances after Optimus proclaimed that the autobots must leave Cybertron in order for them to survive,they bore witness as Optimus received the Matrix of leadership from the core and the autobots planned to start anew.He helped evacuate cybertron during the big shut down and he presumably survived Trypticons rampage.

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jamieson Price]]
{{Note|Warpath is an unlockable character for the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron'']] and can replace any of the other characters on the Autobot team.}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

==Notes==
*{{fact|Need details on how Warparth is unlocked}}

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Prime characters]]
[[Category: Video game-only characters]]

User:Saberblade

2010-07-09T05:18:14Z

Saberblade:

Hi!my name is Saberblade i'm the new guy,can you see me waving!Right now I dont have much to edit but I'll get to it.

User:Saberblade

2010-07-08T21:37:35Z

Saberblade:

Hi!my name is Saberblade i'm the new guy,can you see me waving!Right now I dont have much to edit but I'll get to it.
I Just edited a War for Cybertron page,tell me what you think alright :)

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-07-08T20:06:04Z

Saberblade: /* hmmmm? */ new section

== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

==James Remar==
So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
: I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
:I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010
:The PC version, having all the bot names apparent on characters' model files, names him as Scattershot.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:50, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Aha, so I was right. Because his head, colors, and altmode are 100% Cybertron Defense [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:54, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

== Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==

Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== G1? ==

This game SHOULD NOT be connected to the prime series.WHICH IS WHY HASBRO PUT THIS AS CANNON TO THE G1 series.you can not tell me that the storline for the game is the same as the exodus comic book.-- [[user:Primetime]] july 6,2010 (EDT)
:We might take you more seriously if you're not screaming at us and misspelling "canon". Just a suggestion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:39, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Also, Exodus isn't a comic book, and it's marketed as a tie-in novel to the game. So for all intents and purposes it is the novelization of the game, even if it's not exactly the same.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:They did? When? Where? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:49, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
1:I'm not yelling,I just typed it that way.2:It's a tie-in comic?3:This wiki hardly listens to other users to the point where i should be yelling.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:57,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus mentions the video game in its trade dress in several places. Also, as I said, it's not even a comic.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:16, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
hmmmmm, so which one is the g1 prequel because high moon sayed their storyline was a g1 prequel(read interviews).And they came out first and hasbro is just trying to jazz things up with things like Exodus and the prime cartoon(which is sayed to be a movie prequel but I don't know).--[[Primetime|Primetime]] 01:36,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus was released on the same day as War for Cybertron. Because, again, it's a marketing tie-in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:40, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Thats great! now like I sayed before is it G1 liked the interviews sayed or not like some of you keep saying(I mean the game).--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:26 7, July 2010 (EDT)
:It's the backstory for the new continuity that the Prime cartoon on the Hub will share. This was confirmed at BotCon. The new continuity borrows elements from several past ones, including a movie-style AllSpark, a series of space bridges leading to Cybertronian colonies a la Galaxy Force/Cybertron, the Elite Guard from Animated, the Wreckers, and a great many other nods to previous work. It is not exclusively G1 that is referenced.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:37, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::NO IT IS NOT G1. STOP INTERPRETING STUFF HIGH MOON STUDIOS SAID SO THE GAME WOULD SELL BETTER AS WORD OF GOD.
::I had to get that out of my system. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:47, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:If it's G1, why is there an AllSpark cube? Why is Bumblebee mute? And what's Gigantion doing there? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:46, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, Thy, that's all stuff from the Exodus novel, not WFC proper. They're tied together, but the original poster was only speaking about the game. (Annoyingly enough, Bumblebee loses his voice in the novel before the events of the game (loosely) take place, making Bumblebee's talking kind of, you know, another fun discrepancy.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
SOOO doesn't that mean the Exodus Novel and the game are not related due to the MAJOR differences in the storyline(because honestly the game seems REALLY like its a G1 prequel).And if you disagree explain why bumblebee can suddenly talk again and he is just meeting optimus and ratchet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 12:00,7 July 2010 (EDT)
: If it fits with G1 how come the designs are different, Dinobots, Combaticons and Aerialbots are present, the origin of Optimus is different, the origin of the Matrix is different, the way they leave the planet is different etc. etc. etc. etc.? {{unsigned|201.88.66.127|12:16, 7 July 2010}}
::That's been done all the time. The cartoon characters had different Cybertronian forms than the Dreamwave characters, but they're both G1. Plus, the Dinobots, Stunticons et al were in the War Within. Still, this game isn't G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:27, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Those wouldn't keep it out of G1, but DO prevent it from being the backstory to the G1 toon. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
: Inconsistencies in story do not magically make Exodus anything other than a marketing tie-in to the game. They are intended to go together. If you likewise choose to ignore the fact that Hasbro have said that this will continue on into Prime and beyond, I don't know what more we can get out of this discussion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:26, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
Okay High moon is STILL saying their game is a prequel to G1 even after they released the game.We SHOULD make new WFC pages,or link them back to G1.Forget hasbro right now I'm talking about High moon and their intentions for their game.No prime or Exodus.---[[Primetime|Primetime]] 1:14, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:WFC is part of the backstory for TF:Prime. It seems like it can apply to G1 too because TF:Prime is deliberately mirroring a lot of G1, especially in past setup. But they're not the same and we will not treat them the same. Unless High Moon is also writing the next cartoon, that's that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:25, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
::"Forget Hasbro"? You do realize that Hasbro has the final say on things, not High Moon. High Moon's statements are simply marketing, not fiction. Of course, why we are bothering to try to explain this to someone whose grasp of English does not include the simple word "said" is beyond me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:36, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:::This is either a troll or someone who does not understand English. (Who, BTW, happens to share his username with a notorious Wikipedia troll/vandal) Either way this is getting ridiculous. High Moon DOES NOT have the final say on this stuff, their statement about WFC being G1 WAS intended to get more people to buy the game, YOU ARE AN ANNOYING LITTLE MAN, Primetime. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:54, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
(sighs)Okay look,lets drop this WHOLE topic.I might have misspelled on ACCIDENT and generally I was asking a question that you guys kept dodging.I'm not a troll(never heard of the ''notorious troll on wikia before that you're talking about'')so lets leave it alone and keep igonoring my question and go on with our lives.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 2:12, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We've answered your question. Repeatedly. This IS NOT a prequel to the G1 toon, because Hasbro says it isn't. The hyperbole and metaphor used by High Moon as marketing strategy does not enter into things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:24, 7 July 2010 (EDT)
OOOKKKKAAAYYY I understand, now stop Talking about it.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:35, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== pages ==

When are we going to create more character pages(e.g.Jetfire,Air Raid)?Just wondering because for some reason instead of a page for Ironhide we have a page for scattershot who isn't released yet.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 14:48,7 July 2010 (EDT)
:We just got an avalanche of materials to work through - AllSpark Almanac 2, Exodus, BotCon coverage - so it's going to take time to create other character pages when we get to it. "Your patience will be rewarded." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:55, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== DLC ==

Shouldn't we put more info about the upcoming dlc somewhere on this page because the ''extra info'' I'm talking about has already been confirmed(e.g.maps,characters).Right now the only info is the characters.--[[User:Primetime|Primetime]] 3:41,8 July 2010 (EDT)

== hmmmm? ==

Question!Question!so ummmm...would WFC really go on the same page as the prime series due to the differences in storyline because it seems like it they would have different pages.Can someone please explain why because its kinda confusing.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 16:04,July 8 2010 (EDT)

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