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Talk:B.O.T. (episode)

2011-11-15T01:45:17Z

Sky`sLimit:

Having watched this episode and agreeing with the "Worst episode ever" part, while also noting that we don't subscribe to the concept of "NPOV"...are we maybe being a little too hard on the episode? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 06:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Not particularly. Destroying the Moon with a cannon that can apparently only be operated by Bruticus to just flood a canyon is a plan that deserves all the ire it gets. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 06:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::Is it really that much worse than the [[Giant Purple Griffin|fortress]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 06:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yes. And that's not even taking into account the sheer hateability of the two human leads. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:I suppose you have a point, there...okay, just thought I'd bring it up. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 07:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::You know, it's like Wile E. Coyote, the resources they spend on Crazy Schemes would be better spent on just building a power plant that they can get energy from, without all the 'destruction' that forces the Autobots to intervene. Hell, given they wouldn't be bothering anybody, chances are Prime would just leave them alone. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno... Megatron seems incapable of even simple energy-gathering schemes unless they involve the destruction of something. On at least one occasion, a normally benign manner of generating energy was used by Megatron in a fashion that threatened to destroy the Earth. (ex: [[Fire in the Sky]]). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::::We're right. The Giant Purple Griffin was the best he ever did. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I think Roland and Martin are a reference to Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. [[User:MegaBee|MegaBee]] 21:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Receiving, decrypting... ==

* The speech synthesizer is "rewired" so that instead of "synthesizing and transmitting," it "receives and decrypts." And this somehow lets the kids listen in on a conversation being held in the Decepticon base. '''''WHAT?!'''''
Especially given the context... does anybody else find this part, at least, not to be mind-blowingly confusing? It's hideously contrived, to be sure, but I'd posit that "receiving and decrypting" isn't too far off from "listening" - close enough, at least, not to warrant that huge exclamation of disbelief at the end. Thoughts? [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:Since there weren't any objections, I changed it to something a little less over-the-top. At which point it was reverted. What? [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry, I just saw a red-link user messing with the funny, which is usually a revert-on-sight thing. Still, the plot point above ''is'' indefensibly absurd. "Receives and decrytps" WHAT exactly? Are the 'cons broadcasting their private conversations now?? It's a huge, bizarre stretch (I even thought so when I was 12), and WHAT?? sums it up very succinctly. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well, yes... but you could say about as much for half of the episode. Bear in mind that, as the summary says, it's not the Decepticons broadcasting their conversations to be "received and decrypted" - it's going by what Brawl hears, which makes at least a ''little'' more sense. The more I think about it, the less an all-capitals bold-and-italics statement like that seems right - not any more, at least, than it would be for all the other myriad problems listed with the episode. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Navigation boxes ==
Rather than have two nav boxes on one page, if we're integrating the Japanese cartoon run into the American run (which makes sense), could we get a two-series nav box for the cartoons, much like we have for [[Second Generation!|the comics]]?
:I don't really know if that's possible. While the insertion of new Japanese episodes intp the US run is comparable to the insertion of new UK material into the US comics run, this isn't the only consideration. The Japanese series actually puts the US episodes in a ''different order''. Like... in American continuity, "Fire in the Sky" comes after "Divide and Conquer," and is followed by "SOS Dinobots," but in Japan, it comes after "Masquerade," and is followed by "Fire on the Mountain." How can you show that without having two nav boxes? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:56, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh, wait. Snap. You mean [[Child's Play (issue)|like this]]. Well... bugger, that's an evening wasted! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Yep, sorry, didn't mean to make that link so hard to find. And yeah, the UK book is all kinds of messy, but the two-series system makes short work of it. Don't despair; it's pretty easy to convert the two boxes into one, once the template is set up. We just need one of the code-knowledgeable folks to set the thing up. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== Caption issue ==
Okay, that caption on the image of the gagged Elise? I think that's got to go. Aside from just being potentially offensive, it doesn't even make sense given that neither the characters depicted in the image nor the episode's writers are Japanese. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I have to agree. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::I'll go along with that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Only question is: what do we change it to? --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 17:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Not when Japan is responsible for [[Kiss Players (franchise)|this]].--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 17:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Proposed captions:
::::"Putting leaked spoilers on Teletraan I can have dire consequences."
::::"The mods block yet another anonymous caption bastard."
::::"And next we'll get that Kicker punk!"
::::[[User:JW|JW]] 18:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I kinda had in mind something like "This is the light-hearted, end-of-episode comedy beat. No, seriously." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Hmm, yours is better. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I agree. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 18:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::How about... [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] knows where you've been, girl.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 21:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== How's it the worst episode ever? ==
Tell me why. Please? --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:30, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
:It's all on the page. Why should anyone tell you? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:31, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

Huh... sorry 'bout that. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:41, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

== Animation by Toei? ==

I find the episode animated by Toei hard to believe. Y'know the BIG ROAD in the ep? VERY un-Toei-like. --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.82|66.82.9.82]] 20:31, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

== Any Practical Reason? ==

[[User:Sky`sLimit|Sky]] 08:50, 6 November 2011 (EST)Can someone explain WHY they would make an episode like this anyway?
:Have you watched a lot of old '80s cartoons? Episodes this bad were common in a lot of series, it's just that the TF fandom is super-organized and has examined things in depth that makes B.O.T. stand out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:15, 6 November 2011 (EST)

[[User:Sky`sLimit|Sky]] 18:13, 7 November 2011 (EST)....... Is it bad to admit that I just started watching Transformers?

[[User:Sky`sLimit|Sky]] 20:45, 14 November 2011 (EST)I haven't been able to watch any Transformers episodes because of the time it is on.

Talk:B.O.T. (episode)

2011-11-07T23:13:07Z

Sky`sLimit:

Talk:B.O.T. (episode)

2011-11-06T13:50:44Z

Sky`sLimit: /* Any Practical Reason? */ new section

Talk:Frenzy (Movie)

2011-10-25T07:16:19Z

Sky`sLimit:

This page totally needs the picture of him reading over that dude's shoulder. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

:I'll snap it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

: Aw. The reading picture needs to stay as the main pic. It's the best! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

:: I'll agree, if it could be just a bit bigger. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 05:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
== Wikipedia article ==

It seems the people at Wikipedia jump the gun at everything... Josh Duhamel made some weird comments about a "Soundbyte" character turning into a "12-inch iPod" in the movie, and now every single dorkwad is insisting that this is canon and that he's a real gear TF present in the movie in spite of the fact that the full cast of TFs in the movie has been pretty much confirmed... some of you smarter guys need to help set them straight. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_%28film%29#Real_Gear]

: Maybe after I finish pounding these nails through my dick. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

== Size...? ==

How big is Frenzy supposed to be, anyway? Some sources suggest 7 feet tall (in scale with Deluxe Barricade) but in one of the trailers he looked positively diminutive, at arou 4 feet. Is this due to the fact that several of his parts slide and extend and he can drastically change size, or does he just stay one size? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 05:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

:Movie novelization explicitly says he's 4.5 feet tall. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

== GLU Mobile Game question ==

Is this Frenzy? From the Glu [http://www.transformersmobile.com/ mobile game].

I'm trying to figure out if it's a generic base on him, or if it's a new kind of enemy unit.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/glu_enemy.png

== Cybertronian Language. ==

Since the link is here, I'll ask here. We have a page for [[Cybertronix]] now. Should the movie language (about which there's definately material for a decent article) go there, as it IS the only named Cybertronian language or on a seperate, generic page? Should Cybertronix itself be stricken and reduced to a sub section of a larger page? Thoughts? -- ZacWilliam (not loged in).

== Frenzy inspiration (hommage) to gremlins? ==

I have heard some people say that the characterization of Frenzy is based on the Gremlins (an other movie whose Steven Spielberg was the executive producer) and that there was even a mogwaï in a truck somewhere in the movie (I don't remember it, tough) do you think it is pertinent enough to be mentioned?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 20:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: I really don't think so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
:I would really not at all be surprised if the "mogwai in a truck" people recall is just the big Furby image on the side of a truck. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, it's most certainly the Furby he was referring to.

== Hard to Kill ==

According to the trivia note added by [[User:84.203.113.222|84.203.113.222]], the whole bit about every part of Frenzy being alive (and frequently switching alt modes) is from Titan Magazines. If this can be confirmed, then the note needs clean-up, and perhaps the reiteration Sipher removed can be reinstated (also with clean-up). If it can't be confirmed, the note needs removal, obviously.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Confirmed the arse off it. Although I thought it originated with the Dorling Kindersley [[Transformers: The Movie Guide|movie guide]], myself, and was just being reiterated in the Titan magazine, since the magazine's character profiles are just reworked versions of the ones that appeared in the book. But I don't own the book, so I don't know for sure... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Fair enough. I'd definitely make sure that it's given a Reference, as the Titan comics aren't exactly widespread information-wise o'er here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== Image format ==
Okay okay, I realize that in general, we go with a left-right-left-right positioning of images. That's the standard, and yeah, it works fine when the images are comparatively few and integrated into the body of the text.

However... compare [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Frenzy_(Movie)&oldid=117741#Trivia this this trivia section] (images alternating left-right) to [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Frenzy_(Movie)&oldid=117740#Trivia this one] (images stacked on the right). Can you honestly tell me that the alternating sides version looks ''better''? It seems here, and in some scattered other instances, we're rigidly adhering to a standard without regard for how well it actually works. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think I prefer the second version better as well. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::I prefer the first one. I've seen a lot better examples of where left-right images makes things look bad. But here, it's flattering. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::The first one doesn't have huge ugly gaps of blank space. BIG plus. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Buh? I see just the opposite on my screen -- lots of ugly gaps under the alternating sides version, none when they're stacked. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I think this is a resolution thing. Although I DO see a big chunk of whitespace under the first bulletpoint, even on the stacked version. Perhaps to remove a picture and fix that, I might ask... what exactly is the final image, the render of Frenzy's head, illustrating all the way down there? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know if it's the resolution my screen it set at, meaning that I can see it and other people can't, but I'm looking at the first one, and I'm seeing half-bullet points peeking out from undeath the pictures, and double-bullet points, and stuff that's just totally misaligned all over the place. Ugh. Lee. So... the second one gets my vote, then. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:::A compromise between the two positions would be to remove the two seemingly pointless headshots. They don't particularly add much, and it would remove the gigantic whitespace if the images are stacked to the right. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== "differentiated spark" ==

Someone on [[Talk:Waspinator (BW)]] mentioned a while back that Frenzy had a "differentiated" spark (which apparently helps with surviving decapitation). Anyone else heard of that? --[[User:Fleb|fleb]] 18:43, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

== "First Encounter" Frenzy ==

Does anyone has an image for "First Encounter" version Frenzy, which is black? I once uploaded [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/File:SB_Frenzy.jpg one], but it was become unused and delete after the Database Crush. I'd like to reupload it again with <nowiki>{{badimage}}</nowiki> for temporary use until there is a better one. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:19, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

:"First Encounter" Frenzy, as the text says, is unaltered from the first release. It's not black. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:22, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

::No, I'm not talking about the un-Transformable one, but this one:
:::''This Screen Battles pack features a largely unchanged Deluxe class Barricade figure The only real difference is the Frenzy mini-figure, which is now cast entirely in black plastic, sports no paint applications and is supposed to be stuck permanently inside Barricade's chest thanks to a new, additional piece of plastic (as a matter of fact, the Frenzy figure is also neither advertised on the packaging nor depicted in the instructions). The only way to free him is to remove all four screws from Barricade's undercarriage, then pry the halves of the car apart and slip Frenzy (and his plastic blockade) out quickly.''
::as mention in the previous external link. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:09, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

::::In a sense, there is no such Frenzy figure. The Barricade is designed so that he is not (supposed to be) removable. He is included simply because leaving him out would make for an incomplete altmode for Barricade. Technically, if you have him removed he is a customized figure. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:21, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
::::Unless you have the Japanese one. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:26, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

:::::So, all we need is an image of Japanese version. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:28, 16 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::The Japanese "First Encounter" Frenzy is the normal Deluxe version, not the unpainted black one, as I recall. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:02, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

[[User:Sky`sLimit|Sky]] 03:16, 25 October 2011 (EDT)This is supposed to go under "Image Format" *My computer's been acting up lately* Other than the bullet points, I don't see much of a difference in the first one than the second.

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-17T21:08:56Z

Sky`sLimit:

As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Yes. {{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}

Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? {{unsigned|76.117.9.216}}
:I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
::Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

When Optimus Prime opened the Matrix of Leadership, it looks as though it contains/contained a crystal shard of some kind. Should this be mentioned here? {{unsigned|Ultra Magnotron}}




Should it be mentioned that Megatronus has red armor in place of purple in the flashhbacks? [[User:TFfan1|TFfan1]] 8:02 October 15 2011 (EDT)

I think that may be a result of the "lighting" of the flashbacks, but it's kinda hard to tell.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:00, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Should it be in mentioned in the notes that when the earthquake starts and Rachet moves to protect the humans that June and Fowler are behind the computer, but when the earthquake stops June and Fowler are beside the children?
:Time elapsed between the shots; who's to say they didn't immediately run to the cover Ratchet provided just as the scene switched? -- [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 16:05, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

That does make sense. Thanks. I watched the episode again and saw that`s what could have happened.

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2011-10-16T19:21:45Z

Sky`sLimit:

Talk:Speed Metal

2011-10-12T03:30:53Z

Sky`sLimit:

23:30, 11 October 2011 (EDT)23:30, 11 October 2011 (EDT)~~≥*"Jack's first race with Vince takes place after school, and Jack and Arcee presumably go to the Autobot base afterward. Somehow, Miko and Raf, who're already at the base, have heard about Jack's victory at school. "

I have trouble with this as a continuity error. Miko says "It's all over school". In the world of texting, news of the race spreading through school doesn't mean that it HAS to spread through the physical school. Just that now everyone from school knows about it. The only assumption we really need to make is that Miko and Raph were outside the Autobot base for some time after school (since the base does not get reception). {{unsigned|173.32.150.22}}

*How could Knock Out mistake Vince for "Bumblebee's human friend" ? Didn't he see Jack in his mirror ?

No, he didn't. All Knock Out saw in his rear-view mirror was the light created by Vince's headlights under the bridge. Besides, it's doubtful Knock Out is able to figure out which human is which anyway. {{unsigned|173.32.150.22}}
:I presume that error is referring to the fact that Jack ran up from beside the bridge while Knock Out was still in the process of driving off. If he'd been aware of Jack, it should at least have caused him to doubt that the human he'd just taken prison was the right one. I suspect that KO was too busy being proud of himself to notice Jack though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

*Has anyone else noticed that Knock Out demands that Breakdown buff the arm that /wasn't/ scratched?

How could Knock Out be talking to Breakdown? He wasn`t looking in Breakdown`s direction and Starscream had said something that must have agrivated him.

User talk:Sky`sLimit

2011-10-09T21:44:00Z

Sky`sLimit: Removing all content from page

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T01:21:30Z

Sky`sLimit: /* Unicron */

No such luck, boyos. Teletoon's airing a rerun of Predatory. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Huh, weird, I wonder if the Hub got on their backs. Well, I guess we can leave the episode page up so at least people know what's happening. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:46, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::The TVGuide and sattelite listings all listed a new episode, so it seems like a last minute change imposed by the Hub, yes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Well, is there any information that may indicate the real airdate? [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 19:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Extrapolating from One Shall Fall's Hub airdate, October 1. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:09, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::...and you were right! [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 23:36, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
Why you don't make page for part 2, if there is part 1, there should be part 2.--Unregistred Contributor 15:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:This page is pretty bare bones itself, a page for part 2 would be useless as it would have nothing on it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

==Title==
Shouldn't it be "One Shall Rise, Part 1", in the same style as "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]", etc.? Since they don't show titles in the episodes, we might as well go for consistency. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:46, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:It consistently has it with a dash on MSN and TVGuide.ca, but then it has a colon on the Darkness Rising episodes and we seem to be ignoring those too, so... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
::I suppose we'll have to wait for the DVDs or an official listing from Hasbro (or scripts, if we're remarkably lucky) for final confirmation on what punctuation mark to use. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:17, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I was using the dash in my storylinks because that's what the info on my DVR used. Hrm. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

==Airing==
Did it air? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 14:11, 4 September 2011 (EDT)
:As the article says, it did not air and is now scheduled to air on the first of October. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:37, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

==Singapore==
Can we note that it aired in Singapore today? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

== I don't believe we see all thirteen of the Thirteen. ==

In the first picture we're shown, we only see 12 designs, then the in the other two images, there's eleven in each.

[[Media:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg]] - In this picture, we see eleven clearly, with the twelfth (likely Solus) cut off at the far right. I don't think there was any other character to the far left.

I believe Megatronus hasn't been shown to us. The reason I bring this up is because of the last note on the page "This is the first time in any Transformers franchise where we catch a glimpse of all thirteen of the Original Transformers. Finally."

I don't believe we have. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:41, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yup, the most we see (at once) is eleven and a half. Unless we see different ones in different shots. Though I actually took the last shot showing a distinct eleven surrounding the Core of Cybertron to signify that Megatronus and the Liege Maximo had both sided with Unicron and had been cast out with him. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:38, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
::I dunno. To be honest, the one with the glowing fiery eyes and sparkly by may be Megatronus. He's big and hulking like his BotCon design, and has a rather Decepticon insignia-looking face in the second image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:02, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Or it could be Nexus, who could possess such traits as the guardian of rarified energon. And if Hasbro is sticking with the movie combiner aesthetic that could explain the hulking frame. Megatronus could be the guy with the...Megatron-shaped head. It's all too unclear.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::Megatronus was shown at BotCon to be a big hulking guy with a Con logo-styled head, not a Megatron-styled head. And [[Nexus Prime|Nexus' page]] already labels him as the visor dude on the far left of the first image. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:35, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't remember him being described as looking like a beast though, while I do remember some reports saying Nexus looked rather beastly. Someone on TFW even said he almost looked like he had fur IIRC. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concept art got changed, or if the art used in the show was actually the concept art and what was shown at Botcon was finalized, and they don't match up. Isn't Vector Prime supposed to look pretty much like his Cybertron design but with a starry cape? And yet here we've got one guy who looks clearly like VP with no cape and a guy with a starry cape who looks nothing like VP.{{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}
::::::The concept art at BotCon isn't going to be 100% helpful, because what's in the Aligned Story Bible isn't going to always (or ever?) match up completely with what gets designed and rendered for the television show. Compare their Optimus Primes and compare their Primas. So we can probably look to the BotCon-revealed designs for clues, but I wouldn't stick to them as Gospel for deciphering who these guys are, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== Unicron ==

At the end, many stone figures of Unicron come out of the stone around Optimus. This is the only TF series I`ve seen, so can anybody help me out? How can he do that? {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:Because in this series, he Unicron ''is'' the Earth, and has control over it, so he shapes these figures out of his substance. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:06, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. Like I said, this is the only TF series I`ve seen. How can Unicron control all of his.... clones at once? {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:::The same way you can control all of your fingers at once. Please take further questions to a forum. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:07, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

Great. You gave me another question, but this time it`s a stupid one. It`s completly unrelated to Unicron. {{unsigned|74.212.29.189}}
:What Interrobang means is that this page is for discussing the article for One Shall Rise, not for general discussion of the episode itself. Wikis aren't really well suited to holding discussions of that type, and you're better off asking on a proper Transformers forum. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:51, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
Sorry....*sheesh I`m only 13! Noone can expect me to know this stuff! Don`t get mad at me.*..... I wanted to know what a forum was.

User talk:Sky`sLimit

2011-10-05T01:10:33Z

Sky`sLimit: New page: I`ve just got my account and I`m confused at what to do....

I`ve just got my account and I`m confused at what to do....

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T01:07:55Z

Sky`sLimit: /* Unicron */

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 1

2011-10-05T01:05:34Z

Sky`sLimit: /* Unicron */