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Talk:Memories and Salvation

2024-06-05T00:48:52Z

Slift: /* Simon Sabhaman */

== "Prototype Tezzla" ==

I don't have access to the story, but is it actually "Prototype Tezzla" every time she's mentioned? RangerWiki just has her at "[https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Tezzla Tezzla]". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:43, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:: The one in the story is explicitly a clone of regular Tezzla. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 23:05, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:::Ah, here we go. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:23, 15 April 2024 (EDT)

== Simon Sabhaman ==

The name is ''likely'' from three sources, given our triple-crossover.
'''Simon''' Furman - Transformers, naturally.
Larry '''Hama''' - G.I. Joe.
Haim '''Saban''' - Power Rangers.
[[User:Slift|Slift]] ([[User talk:Slift|talk]]) 20:48, 4 June 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Memories and Salvation

2024-06-05T00:48:28Z

Slift: /* Simon Sabhaman */

== "Prototype Tezzla" ==

I don't have access to the story, but is it actually "Prototype Tezzla" every time she's mentioned? RangerWiki just has her at "[https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Tezzla Tezzla]". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:43, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:: The one in the story is explicitly a clone of regular Tezzla. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 23:05, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:::Ah, here we go. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:23, 15 April 2024 (EDT)

== Simon Sabhaman ==

The name is ''likely'' from three sources, given our triple-crossover.
'''Simon''' Furman - Transformers, naturally
Larry '''Hama''' - G.I. Joe
Haim '''Saban''' - Power Rangers
[[User:Slift|Slift]] ([[User talk:Slift|talk]]) 20:48, 4 June 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Memories and Salvation

2024-06-05T00:48:08Z

Slift: /* Simon Sabhaman */ new section

== "Prototype Tezzla" ==

I don't have access to the story, but is it actually "Prototype Tezzla" every time she's mentioned? RangerWiki just has her at "[https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Tezzla Tezzla]". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:43, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:: The one in the story is explicitly a clone of regular Tezzla. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 23:05, 15 April 2024 (EDT)
:::Ah, here we go. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:23, 15 April 2024 (EDT)

== Simon Sabhaman ==

The name is ''likely'' from three sources, given our triple-crossover.
'''Simon Furman''' - Transformers, naturally
Larry '''Hama''' - G.I. Joe
Haim '''Saban''' - Power Rangers
[[User:Slift|Slift]] ([[User talk:Slift|talk]]) 20:48, 4 June 2024 (EDT)

New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen

2016-12-15T01:30:07Z

Slift: /* Errors */ Commenting on Oiler and Slide's unusual size.

{{Comicstory
|seriesissue=''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' #1
|prev=Thundercracker & Buster Save the World
|next=New Cybertron Part 2
|caption=
|image=OP1 regcvr.jpg
|title="New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[December 14]], 2016
|coverdate=November 2016
|written by=[[John Barber]]
|art by=[[Kei Zama]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era]]
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'''As Optimus Prime recalls a case of corruption from his youth, in the present day, the need for Earth to step forward and join the Council of Worlds becomes ever greater.'''

==Synopsis==
''Four million years ago, on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] finds himself investigating the troubling case of suspected gun-runner [[Hefter]], who has died in police custody. Pax promises Hefter's friend [[Tappet]] that he will investigate, but Tappet, emotional, angry, and unconvinced by Pax's assurances, believes he knows the truth already: police officer [[Outback (G1)|Outback]] killed Hefter for being a [[Decepticon]]. After Tappet leaves, Pax is met by [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]] to discuss the situation. As the pair talk about the fake [[Matrix of Leadership]] Zeta carries in his chest, and watch as a protest outside turns violent, Zeta's carefully-chosen words and presupposition of Hefter's guilt make Orion wonder if the Prime he once thought of as his friend is truly any different to the lineage of corrupt 'bots who have gone before him...''

In the present day, in [[Mexico City]], the future parallels the past as an anti-Cybertronian protest descends into a riot. [[Aileron]] and a team of recruits from Cybertron's various colonies—[[Slide]] and [[Oiler]] from [[Devisiun]], [[Gimlet]] and [[Bump]] from [[Eukaris]], [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]] from [[Velocitron]], and [[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]] from [[Caminus]]—attempt to intercede, but one rioter produces an elaborate-looking weapon and blasts Midnight Express off his feet. The others are prepared to strike back in force, but Aileron gets between them and grabs the shooter. From [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], floating in the air overhead, Optimus Prime, [[Soundwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Soundwave]], [[Arcee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Arcee]], and [[Jazz (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jazz]] descend to help calm the panicking crowd; Jazz tries offering medical assistance to an injured woman, only to be rebuffed; Arcee checks on Midnight Express and finds that he is fine, but is concerned to observe that he and the colonists are all wearing [[mouthplate]]s in order to emulate the idolized Optimus; and Optimus examines the gun recovered by Aileron, which he recognizes as an [[Earth Defense Command]] weapon reverse-engineered from Cybertronian technology.

''Pax follows Outback to a bar in order to question him further on the shooting, only to have Outback pull a gun on him and start ranting about the need to defend oneself against the Decepticons. Pax quickly disarms Outback and slams him into the bar, warning him that he is not his enemy and to stop acting as if he is. As Pax leaves, Outback spits after him that the world is only getting more dangerous, and a squeaky-clean hero cop like Pax isn't up to the challenges the change will bring.''

As Autobot City relocates to [[Washington, D.C.]], the colonists all talk among themselves about how incredible Optimus is, which even the once-idealistic Aileron finds tiring. She asks [[Jetfire (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jetfire]] if Optimus used to act this way four million years ago, before the war, but Jetfire remarks that Prime didn't even act like this ''last'' year, and blames all this "True Prime" business for affecting Optimus's opinion of himself. As if on cue, [[Pyra Magna]] enters with [[D.0.C.]] to report that a large, unknown spacecraft is approaching the [[Earth]]...

Down below, outside the [[White House]], Optimus talks with the President, who prickles at his presence on American soil without permission and meets him with a [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] arsenal as backup. The President considers Optimus's hope that humanity can work together to join the [[Council of Worlds]] as one to be impossible, but Optimus tells her it ''must'' come to pass, and presents her with the recovered EDC weapon as proof. The weapon, he explains, is a breach of the [[Tyrest Accord]], and will prompt a severe political and military response from Cybertron if Earth continues to remain unaffiliated. Before a conclusion can be reached, however, Soundwave interrupts the discussion to report on the mysterious spaceship's approach.

''Off the record, Orion takes Hefter's body to the [[Ultirex]] Technoversity so it can be examined by his old friend [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]], who quickly discerns that the deceased 'bots injuries do not match what the official report says. Ratchet is less surprised than Pax to find that the system is still corrupt under Zeta; as they talk about the state of the world, Ratchet even notes that the shadow of [[Functionism]] is still a problem, offering as proof his graduate student, Jetfire—a 'bot with an aerial alternate mode that Ratchet has faced extreme difficulty in getting assigned to scientific duties. Jetfire doesn't make a good first impression on Orion, though... as he immediately attacks him! Orion quickly subdues Jetfire and discovers the reason for the attack when he removes a plate on Jetfire's chest, revealing a certain purple [[insignia]] beneath. Jetfire is a Decepticon!''

Optimus, Soundwave, Arcee, Aileron, and the [[Torchbearer]]s gather at the spaceship's projected landing point on the [[Matterhorn]]. As they await its arrival, Optimus contemplates the drained and lifeless [[Matrix of Leadership]], and is surprised when it suddenly surges with light! The Torchbearers react with reverence and awe, save for Pyra Magna, who simply digs her hands into the earth below them and pulls out a few shards of [[Ore-13]], revealing that nothing ''mystical'' is happening: the Matrix is simply reacting to the ore deposit in the area. Optimus recalls Magna's previously-expressed belief (via Victorion) that ''she'' should be the holder of the Matrix, and her understanding of it and willingness to question it makes him wonder if she is right. Just then, the strange corkscrew spaceship pierces the clouds... but rather than land gently, it decimates the mountain range as it burrows into the ground!

==Featured characters==
Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks. 
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*''[[Outback (G1)|Outback]]'' (4)
*''[[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]]'' (5)
*''[[Mirage (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Mirage]]?'' (16)
*[[Arcee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Arcee]] (29)
*[[Jazz (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jazz]] (30)
*[[Jetfire (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jetfire]] (31)
*[[Pyra Magna]] (32)
*[[Rust Dust]] (36)
*[[Stormclash]] (37)
*[[Skyburst (G1)|Skyburst]] (38)
*[[Dust Up]] (39)
*[[Jumpstream]] (40)
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*''[[Grotusque]]'' (6)
*''[[Repugnus (G1)|Repugnus]]'' (7)
*''"Blackout"'' (8)
*''[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]'' (9)
*''[[Demolisher]]'' (10)
*''?''  (11)
*''[[Dile]]'' (12)
*''[[Flip Sides (G1)|Flip Sides]]'' (13)
*''[[Rosanna (KP)|Rosanna]]'' (14)
*''[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]'' (15)
*''[[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]]'' (16)
*''[[Doublecross]]'' (17)
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*''[[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]]'' (18)
*''[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]'' (19)
*[[Aileron]] (20)
*[[Oiler]] (21)
*[[Slide]] (22)
*[[Gimlet]] (23)
*[[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]] (24)
*[[Bump]] (25)
*[[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]] (26)
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] (27)
*[[D.0.C.]] (33)
*''[[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]]'' (35)
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==Quotes==
"Before I was '''Optimus Prime'''... I was part of the '''problem.''' Things were '''changing''' on Cybertron... too '''fast''' for some... and far too '''slowly''' for the rest." 
"I thought '''Zeta''' was different. I '''told myself''' Zeta was different." 
"Things were getting better. I told myself '''that''', too."
:—Select portions of '''Optimus Prime's''' narration

"I respect your dedication to the '''truth''', Orion... the people '''deserve''' to know the truth that '''Lifter''' was a '''Decepticon''' and a '''traitor''', who got what was coming to him. They deserve to have '''anarchy''' staved off for '''one more day'''. And '''that''', my friend... is the precise value of '''truth.'''" 
"Hefter... his name was '''Hefter'''."
:—'''Zeta Prime''' gives '''Orion Pax''' a subtle look at his true colors

"What do you do? Somebody has a '''gun'''—do you '''act''' or let them '''shoot''' you? Or your '''partner'''? That's what being a '''cop''' means. '''Decepticons''' running around—they want us all '''dead'''. You want to investigate '''me'''? Investigate '''yourself'''. Well, Mister '''Orion Pax''', Autobot-at-Large? What do you '''do'''?" 
''(Orion disarms Outback and body-slams him)'' 
"I make '''sure.''' That's my '''job.'''"
:—'''Outback''' and '''Orion Pax'''

"I don't want to sound '''crazy''', but this was all '''worth''' it. On my colony, on '''Caminus''', we were so '''cold''', so '''alone'''. The Primes so '''distant'''. To learn one is real- '''alive'''... 
"'''My''' colony's all about '''speed''', about '''forward progress'''. So it was the idea of discovering the '''lost colony''' that got me to join him. To bring this planet out of the '''dark ages''', into the '''Cybertronian Era'''....plus, for a '''truck''', the Prime is '''really fast'''. I '''admire''' that.
:—'''Midnight Express''' and '''Roulette''' have very different reasons for joining Optimus' cause.

"Aileron... (Optimus) wasn't like this '''last year''', let alone '''four million years ago.'''" 
"What '''changed?'''" 
"Someone told him he was a '''space messiah''' one too many times..." 
''(Jetfire side-eyes Pyra Magna)'' 
"...so he started to '''believe''' it."
:—'''Jetfire''' and '''Aileron'''

"Things are '''better''', aren't they? Better than under '''Nominus''' or '''Sentinel'''?" 
"'''Maybe.''' They used to put the bigotry out in the '''open.''' Now, it's under the surface and we're fanning the flames of a '''war'''." 
"So I've heard." 
"You hear if we're on the '''right side'''?"
:—'''Orion Pax''' and '''Ratchet'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Tappet has had an axe to grind against Optimus Prime (whose change of name he didn't recognize, always calling him "Orion Pax") since he was first introduced in [[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|''The Death of Optimus Prime'']], and now we know why.
*Outback's vicious actions shouldn't come as too surprising; we've already witnessed him attempt to publicly assassinate a [[Drag Strip (G1)|purported Decepticon]] in [[Iron in the Blood|''Ironhide'' #2]], and that was ''before'' he became a cop with a badge to hide behind.
*Zeta references the time Orion saved the [[Primal Basilica]], as seen in [[Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|''More than Meets the Eye'' #11]]. It was in that same issue that the phoney Matrix carried by [[Nominus Prime]] was destroyed; the counterfeit Zeta is carrying is a new one, presumably to keep up appearances. Though always implicit, this is the first direct in-story acknowledgement we've had of the fact Zeta's Prime-hood was a sham propped up by a fake Matrix.
*Orion refers to the time he saved Zeta's life, a reference to ''[[Spotlight: Blurr]]'', in which a unit led by Orion fended off a team of Decepticon assassins targeting Zeta.
*The appearance of female Transformers [[Flip Sides (G1)|Flip Sides]] and [[Rosanna (KP)|Rosanna]] in the crowd may raise an eyebrow, as female Transformers weren't supposed to exist on Cybertron at this point, but they are actually ''re''appearing after showing up in another crowd scene in [[Before & After|''More than Meets the Eye'' #12]]. Maybe they're not female in IDW continuity...? It's also possible that they're simply "easter egg" cameos.
*Optimus recounts the legend of the Matrix, which claims it was originally the crystal prison of [[Solomus]] (related in [[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|the ''More than Meets the Eye'' 2012 annual]]) and once rested on the hilt of [[Prima]]'s [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] (attested in [[The Sum and Its Parts|''Windblade'' vol. 2 #1]]).
*The Earth Defense Command were revealed to have acquired Cybertronian weaponry from [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] in [[Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden|issue #29]] of the [[The Transformers (IDW)|2009-2011 ongoing series]]. Optimus notes the human acquisition of this tech is a breach of the [[Tyrest Accord]], which was introduced way back in ''[[Spotlight: Ultra Magnus]]'', and which was most recently referred to in issue [[Animals|#46]] of ''More Than Meets The Eye'', when [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] (in his role as the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tryest Accord) killed [[Demus]] for trafficking in Cybertronian technology.
*Outback refers back to the deaths of the original [[Senate]] and [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], as seen in [[Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4]].
*Though none of the soldiers who flank the president as she meets with Optimus are recognizable as members of the team, the tracked missile launchers that back them up are [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] [[Wolverine (G.I. Joe)|Wolverines]]. That's how this works now, kids!
*The technoversity of [[Ultirex]] previously appeared in [[Broadcast|''Autocracy'' #11]], in which Ratchet and Jetfire were both shown to work there. Ratchet notes that Zeta offered him the position at the university, explaining his move from the drop-in clinic he used to run in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]], as seen in [[Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|''More than Meets the Eye'' #8]].
*Jumpstream recalls how the seemingly-lifeless Matrix glowed once before on Caminus, an event that took place in ''Windblade'' vol. 2 #1.
*Optimus notes that Pyra Magna believes ''she'' should hold the Matrix; that belief was first expressed by the Torchbearers' combined form of [[Victorion]] in [[Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|''The Transformers'' #47]].

===Transformers references===
*The red grid with yellow sunburst that serves as a background for Hefter's picture on page 1, panel 1 is based on the classic [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toyline]] packaging.
*Among the recognizable Generation 1 characters in the crowd is [[Blackout (Movie)|live-action movieverse Blackout]]. Hey guy! What'cha doin' there?
*The new colonist recruits are all pre-existing ''Transformers'' characters of varying levels of obscurity. Oiler and Slide are [[Micromaster Combiner]]s from the [[1991|final year]] of the Generation 1 toyline. Gimlet and Bump are imports from the Japanese [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|''Beast Wars'']] series; ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Neo]]'', respectively. Roulette was a [[OTFCC 2003|2003 convention]]-exclusive toy, while Midnight Express hops continuities from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' series]], as so many of his ''RiD'' brethren have in recent years.
**Midnight Express is an unusual case; while he's based on his RiD counterpart – notably visible in his head and shoulders – he incorporates aspects from the other two members of [[Team Bullet Train]]; his vehicle mode seems to be inspired by [[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]], while his transformation leaves his train front on his chest like that of [[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]].
*Roulette's vehicle mode is a late-model (2013-2017) Dodge Viper, a callback to the fact that her toy is an officially licensed version of that car, though the toy is of the 1996-2002 generation of the Viper.
*Jetfire having been a Decepticon before joining the Autobots is a hallmark of the character's history, introduced in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode "[[Fire in the Sky]]" and reflected in all major incarnations of the character (including even his [[Jetfire (ROTF)|live-action movie counterpart]]). It's been notably absent from Jetfire's IDW history until now.
*The spaceship that arrives on the final page of the issue is, of course, a [[Quintesson]] [[Quintesson Cruiser|cruiser]] of the unique and memorable "corkscrew" design originally seen in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. The Quintessons have had a sparse presence in IDW continuity up to now, but perhaps things are about to change...

===Real-life references===
*There's a little screen-faced waiter-droid in the bar Pax and Outback visit who looks to be inspired by {{w|Judge Dredd}}'s {{w|Walter the Wobot}}. Artist Kei Zama is a big ''{{w|2000 AD (comics)|2000 AD}}'' fan.
*Heh heh. Hooligan is one of the rioters. Get it? Because soccer hooligans and... oh, forget it.

===Errors===
*Pyra Magna has green "lipstick" on page 13, but red on page 19.
*Soundwave's Decepticon symbol disappears and reappears throughout the issue.
*Oiler and Slide are huge compared to other Devisiun colonists. While we can't explicitly call this out as an error ''per se'' given their tanker truck altmode, it does run contrary to what we've seen so far.

===Other trivia===
*''Optimus Prime'' takes the place of ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers]]'' on the IDW schedule, and remains written by John Barber, continuing on the story begun in the previous title's pages. Originally solicited for release in November, this issue arrives several weeks late, halfway through December.
*Most characters appearing in the crowd scene in the flashback are recognizable as being Autobots or Decepticons we know today, but their allegiances are not clear at the time this part of story is set, so we've put them under "Others" in our list above. The Decepticons present may be Decepticons (though they likely wouldn't flaunt it), but it's unlikely the Autobots are Autobots given they're protesting actions by the Autobot security force. Only the figure who appears to be Mirage (with a toy-accurate head, page 2, panel 2, extreme right) is shown wearing an Autobot insignia.
*The colonists are shown to all be zealously following Prime, but as of yet, none have Autobrands or have been explicitly confirmed as Autobots. Additionally, Aileron also isn't wearing an Autobrand, despite having followed Prime for some time now, though she, too, has never been officially confirmed as an Autobot.

===Covers (9)===
*'''Regular cover:''' The big boss 'bot himself, by [[Kei Zama]] and [[David Garcia Cruz]]
*'''Subscription cover A:''' Optimus, Soundwave, and Arcee, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Subscription cover B:''' Optimus, Soundwave, Arcee, and Aileron, by [[Andrew Griffith]] and Joana Lafuente
*'''Subscription cover C:''' Blank cover for sketches

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*'''Retailer incentive cover A:''' Graffiti of Optimus, Soundwave, and Aileron by [[Sara Pitre-Durocher]]; part of a series of "graffiti" variants by Pitre-Durocher which combines with covers from [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|''Lost Light'' #1]], [[Revolutionaries issue 1|''Revolutionaries'' #1]], {{i|M.A.S.K. issue 1|''M.A.S.K.'' #1}}, and {{i|G.I. Joe Vol 5 issue 1|''G.I. Joe'' #1}} to form a complete image.
*'''Retailer incentive cover B:''' Optimus Prime by [[Sonny Liew]]; one in a series of variants by Liew on the above-mentioned issues.
*'''Retailer incentive cover C:''' Optimus Prime by [[Paul Pope]]; one in a series of variants by Pope on the above-mentioned issues.
*'''Ript Apparel exclusive cover:''' OPTIMUS PRIME ARE ALL ONE by [[Ninjaink|Timothy Lim]], a grammatically-challenged homage to the cover of [[The New Order|Marvel's ''The Transformers'' #5]]; available exclusively from [https://www.riptapparel.com/ Ript Apparel].
*'''Diamond UK Previews exclusive cover:''' Zama and Cruz's regular cover with a Union Jack background, and new red feet for Optimus, in reference to the red-footed variant of the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#G1v1|original Generation 1 Optimus toy]] available in the UK and France. Available only to retailers who attended Diamond UK's October 2016 retailer event.

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===Advertisements===
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*''[[The Transformers: Lost Light|Lost Light]]'' [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|#1]]
*"Hasbro Tribune" promoting November's [[Hasbro Universe]] "[[Reconstruction]]" titles, including this issue

==External links==
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[[Category:Optimus Prime issues]]

Talk:Lockdown (ROTF)

2014-10-01T03:45:02Z

Slift: /* Deluxe miss-assembly? */ new section

Seriously, we know he's going to be a bounty hunter, he's based off a bounty hunter, official release or not, his card states he's a bounty hunter. This isn't anything close to anything offensive, so why are you so up in arms against a CORRECT categorization? - Karhukjnsi {{unsigned|Karhukjnsi}}
:So I take it then you ''haven't'' read the [[Help:Official info|official info help page]] that the Scoop Bastard notice links to, then? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 6 January 2010 (EST)
:Very well, then, play it that way? Then you shouldn't be against this. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|The Beerclaw]] 02:33, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Then why keep the "stealing parts" bit? ==

There's nothing officially released that declares he "steals parts". Just because he can use Ratchet's weapon does not directly indicate that he "steals parts" for all we know he could've bought it off the Autobot medic regardless of absurdity. So if you're going to take off any potential mentions of his profession (which is what he's initially referenced from) then why allow something else that is unofficially recognized? This is a paragon example of abuse of power. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|The Beerclaw]] 02:50, 6 January 2010 (EST)
:Because the Hasbro reps at Botcon said that the gun the new Ratchet will come with can be attached to Lockdown, hence he steals parts, because I doubt Ratchet would just give it to him willingly. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:52, 6 January 2010 (EST)
:But did they '''say''' he "steals parts" or any other directly similar statement? Or is this something else that's been placed onto this wiki because it's ''assumed'' due to this character's previous incarnation? If so, then it'd be safe to "assume" he's a bounty hunter, also due to this character's previous incarnation, especially if he's noted to be an homage. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|The Beerclaw]] 02:57, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Bounty hunter or not? ==

To most who visit this page, we are already familiar with the previous incarnation of this character's profession as a "Bounty Hunter". If you've read the previous discussion/"argument" (of sorts) with Detour, then you'll understand where I stand on the subject, if not, then please read the following.

It's argued that information "leaked" should not be entered into a wiki, though most arguably fair-enough assumptions are accepted; including, concerning this character, that he "steals parts", due to him being able to connect and use Ratchet's EMP weapon (a very specific characteristic to the previous incarnation). The characteristic of stealing parts is an attribute that is well-documented on the Animated incarnation of the character (again, more specifically the case with Ratchet's EMP weapon), as is another well-documented attribute being his profession as a "bounty hunter".

This character has been noted as an "homage" to the previous version, which even extended to an alternate form extremely similar to the previous version, a "hook" weapon (commonly found in the character's right hand), and to include him as an enemy to this continuity's version of Arcee and Ratchet (officially declared on Hasbro's TF site). Given all the various information both official and safely assumed, is it not then also safe to assume his profession would also carry over strongly intact enough to be placed in this article?

And yes, I care this much because I've had a passion for bounty hunting since I was a young child, so nearly anything "bounty hunting" related, I take seriously. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 03:48, 6 January 2010 (EST)
:Occam's Razor suggests that Lockdown will be portrayed exactly like his ''Animated'' counterpart, given the large number of ROTF characters whose personalities are based on their G1 forebears (Blazemaster, Nightbeat, etc). However, until Lockdown's bio is officially published somewhere, it's probably best to let sleeping dogs lie. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:56, 6 January 2010 (EST)
:We're interesting solely in being right, not first. As such, waiting until the toy is released is perfectly fine and won't hurt anybody. Once one of the editors gets a Lockdown toy (and someone likely will, as he's awesome) you can rest assured they'll add all of his info. In the meantime, relax, have some patience, kill the time by editing stuff that's already out. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 08:14, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== G1 Lockdown repurpose? ==

You sure the ROTF toy gets repurposed for the new idw Lockdown? Judging by the cover for Drift 3 he seems to be more closely based on the original animated toy and not this one here. [[Special:Contributions/86.180.50.123|86.180.50.123]] 11:57, 12 August 2010 (EDT) (Dead Metal too lazy to log in)

== Unreleased Toy/Upcoming Toy? ==

His Speed Stars toy has been in the upcoming toy category since 2011. There's no longer a Speed Stars line in the stores, that's done. Could we change his one toy from 'upcoming' to 'cancelled', as it seems it has been? It's been 2 to 2.5 years now since it was supposed to be out, and nothing. [[User:Transfotaku|Transfotaku]] 08:11, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:A quicks search brings up nothing of his release, so sure, why not. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 09:23, 21 August 2013 (EDT)

==Should we Split?==

Considering Lockdown's appearance in AOE is cannon and his toy from ROTF is not, should this be split into an AOE Lockdown page and a ROTF Lockdown page? I think that there should be a split like there just was in [[Galvatron (AOE)]] from [[Galvatron (ROTF)]]. {{Unsigned|MrGameAndToy}}
:No, because ROTF Galvatron is a one off game character, and the split happened because someone jumped the gun on merging them, and plus we don't know enough about Lockdown's personality to seperate them yet. Also sign your posts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:31, 5 March 2014 (EST)
:ROTF Lockdown is in no way 'not canon', and splitting two movie-verse bounty hunting Decepticon cars called Lockdown would be super-daft.
[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:58, 5 March 2014 (EST)
:I just think that there would be confusion between the two lockdowns because technically they are not the same guy. However i was simply debating my point and if you do not like the idea then don't go ahead with it.--[[User:MrGameAndToy|MrGameAndToy]] ([[User talk:MrGameAndToy|talk]]) 19:27, 5 March 2014 (EST)
::as they said we dont have enough information to consider the ROTF Lockdown and AOE Lockdown seperate guys (like ROTF and AOE Galvs, or Movie 1 and ROTF Mudflap). what is similar with the two Lockdowns is that both are bouty hunters. [[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] ([[User talk:Eagc7|talk]]) April 7, 2014
::"I just think that there would be confusion between the two lockdowns because technically they are not the same guy." You are "begging the question", in the actual meaning of the phrase, assuming the truth of the proposition you are making. How do you know that they are not the same guy? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 06:34, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Exactly. heck even should be noted that even if they dont look similar or something, doesnt mean they arent meant to represent the same guy, Shockwave appears in the Movie 1 game, yet it doenst fit much with what we saw on him in the DOTM media, yet they're meant to represent the same guy and we have them in one single page. [[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] ([[User talk:Eagc7|talk]]) April 9, 2014
::::Only thing I can think of that would make them separate would be if AOE Lockdown is portrayed as having never been to Earth before now, while ROTF Lockdown (according to this very article) has been on Earth in at least the Cyber Missions, Nefarious, and Unite for the Universe, which are treated (by us, at least) as canonical parts of the main [[Movie timeline]]. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 21:26, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::Agreed [[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] ([[User talk:Eagc7|talk]]) April 12, 2014
::::::Lockdown is depicted as a mercenary definitely familiar with Earth. No need to merge.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 01:23, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
:Keep on same page. The movies are a continuity family, not a single continuity, and AoE Lockdown is very clearly the same character most Lockdowns tend to be. He's not just a random name reuse. We don't split pages based merely on plot discrepancies across different stories. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:34, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::::(Ooops). Yeah, I meant no need to split, not merge. Merging is good. (F***).[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 11:07, 27 June 2014 (EDT)

Well, if he's an unaligned Cybertronian from the start, I'd think we should split him, given that ROTF Lockdown always works for the Decepticons. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
: No, that's not how it works. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:13, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
::He's not unaligned, anyway. He's alignment-for-hire. Big difference.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 16:35, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
: I'm with you actually, the Lockdown in Age of Extinction wasn't technically unaligned, he was working for these mysterious "Creators" instead of one of the traditional Cybertronian factions, and clearly looked down on both the Autobots and the Decepticons. I'd definitely say he's a different character from the hook-handed Decepticon seen in the ROTF games, and I say split the pages. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] ([[User talk:Deusoma|talk]]) 03:33, 13 July 2014 (EDT)
:: Again, alignment for hire. So what if he is currently being employed by a non-Cybertronian entity? Also, one can have distaste for their employer and still work for them. I say keep them merged.[[User:Observedhalo|Observedhalo]] ([[User talk:Observedhalo|talk]]) 04:55, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
::: But he ''isn't'' working for hire, you silly goose, the way he talks to Optimus in his prison indicates that Lockdown has ''no choice'' but to obey these Creators, like he's their ''slave'', and that as soon as he brings Prime to them, he'll be in the same boat. The fact that he's working ''with'' Cemetery Wind to accomplish his goals for the Creators doesn't change the fact that he's still the latter's puppet. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] ([[User talk:Deusoma|talk]]) 01:51, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
::::...he says he's been hired to work for them. "We all work for someone."[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 02:04, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
:::::I think we should split. I know this Wiki really likes to lump a lot of characters together. Lockdown (and to a lesser extent Hound and Crosshairs too) feels like a distinct entity from the ROTF version. Both have their own adventures, both look different, are allied with different people and have relatively different personalities. The only real thing that seems to tie the two Lockdowns together is their bounty-hunting job and that Ratchet recognizes him, but they do really feel like different people, just based off the same Animated Lockdown cahracter. [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] ([[User talk:Blackjack|talk]]) 02:17, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
:::::::There is no reason to split. Unlike Crosshairs, created as a brand-new character for the movie and then given a name that happened to belong to someone else, AOE Lockdown ''is'' Lockdown. He's an adaptation of the bounty hunter from Animated, just like the previous movieverse Lockdown was. I see no reason not to consider both ROTF and AOE to be iterations of the same character, because that's exactly what they are. They may have differing histories within different branches of the same continuity family, but that doesn't mean they need separate articles. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 05:46, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
:Whereas I would counter that while the two characters do have similarities, they are pretty different. ROTF Lockdown is basically just a Decepticon who showed up here and there in peripheral material, though whether we take Cyber Missions, IDW or Titan as canon he is a Decepticon that's been to Earth and is working together with the Decepticons -- there really isn't anything to suggest him working "for the highest bidder" beyond our miscoloured conceptions due to knowing of a different, Animated-flavoured Lockdown he is based on. Age of Extinction Lockdown, on the other hand, while he has his 'we all work for somebody' spiel, is seen to be relatively aligned with the Creators and while, again, based on Animated Lockdown, he is now portrayed as someone who hasn't been to the 'primitive planet', absolutely hates on both the Autobots and Decepticons. He has enough differences in his fictional portrayal for me to consider them different characters in my opinion. [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] ([[User talk:Blackjack|talk]]) 11:03, 30 July 2014 (EDT)
::Okay, I am putting my foot down starting now. No more requests to split this guy. He's obviously Lockdown-the-character and not Lockdown-the-guy-we-slapped-a-name-on. This is dropped, the end, we have better stuff to nitpick over. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 11:27, 30 July 2014 (EDT)

== Deluxe miss-assembly? ==

Could be my version of the toy (Hey, mistakes in the factory happen) and the cardback photo shows the same assembly... But the stock photo shows the shins and feet swapped.

...I have to assume the stock photogtaphy (For once) shows the correct transformation/assembly, given his tilted feet... You know, work with the shins swapped. [[User:Slift|Slift]] ([[User talk:Slift|talk]]) 23:45, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Lazerback (Prime)

2013-04-04T02:14:53Z

Slift: /* In hand toy observances. */

Just FYI, this is almost certainly going to get moved to "Laserback", which is what was on the packaging shown at NYCC. Hasbro blows spellings on their slideshows constantly (for example, the "Tralcutter" shown in that selfsame presentation). -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:01, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

== Typo? ==

Was "rouge" intentional, or should it be "rogue"? --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 14:25, 9 February 2013 (EST)
:Yeah, unless there was a memo I missed about describing characters' colour schemes (in French) in intro sections, I think it's probably a mistake. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:29, 9 February 2013 (EST)

== In hand toy observances. ==

Few things to note.

*His axe is specifically designed for his ''right'' hand, despite what the packaging and promo pictures suggest (The peg and space is offset/shaped to perfectly fit the right hand). Not entirely a big issue considering the rubbery plastic deforms very easily and allows the left hand with some cramming, but the Takara version will probably have issues.
*His beast-mode tail doesn't lower entirely (at least on mine) unless his missile launcher (and missile) are pressed in tight against his back. Possible stress/warping issue with the tail-end of the missile considering it's holding down a big piece of plastic that doesn't want to stay down? Something to mildly worry about if you intend to keep him in beast mode posed like that for a long time.
*The rubbery fronds either side of his robot head (His beast mode 'ears'?) need to be folded back (The instructions don't say you need to, and there's grooves in his back to accommodate them.) if you want to use his missile launcher with it's panels open (Which the instructions '''do''' call out, oops!) otherwise they'll deform. Not an issue with the rubbery plastic of the Hasbro version, but I can forsee some warping/breakage with the Takara version if they use harder plastics.

--[[User:Slift|Slift]] 22:09, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Lazerback (Prime)

2013-04-04T02:09:43Z

Slift: /* In hand toy observances. */ new section

Just FYI, this is almost certainly going to get moved to "Laserback", which is what was on the packaging shown at NYCC. Hasbro blows spellings on their slideshows constantly (for example, the "Tralcutter" shown in that selfsame presentation). -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:01, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

== Typo? ==

Was "rouge" intentional, or should it be "rogue"? --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 14:25, 9 February 2013 (EST)
:Yeah, unless there was a memo I missed about describing characters' colour schemes (in French) in intro sections, I think it's probably a mistake. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:29, 9 February 2013 (EST)

== In hand toy observances. ==

Few things to note.

*His axe is specifically designed for his ''right'' hand, despite what the packaging and promo pictures suggest (The peg and space is offset/shaped to perfectly fit the right hand). Not entirely a big issue considering the rubbery plastic deforms very easily and allows the left hand with some cramming, but the Takara version will probably have issues.
*His beast-mode tail doesn't lower entirely (at least on mine) unless his missile launcher (and missile) are pressed in tight against his back. Possible stress/warping issue with the tail-end of the missile considering it's holding down a big piece of plastic that doesn't want to stay down? Something to mildly worry about if you intend to keep him in beast mode posed like that for a long time.
*The rubbery fronds either side of his robot head (His beast mode 'ears'?) need to be folded down (The instructions don't say you need to) if you want to use his missile launcher with it's panels open (Which the instructions '''do''' call out, oops!) otherwise they'll deform. Not an issue with the rubbery plastic of the Hasbro version, but I can forsee some warping/breakage with the Takara version if they use harder plastics.

--[[User:Slift|Slift]] 22:09, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Predaking (Prime)

2013-04-04T01:53:04Z

Slift: /* Voyager toy observances. */ new section

So, hey, is Beast Hunters a new franchise? Do we need to move Predaking's page to a new disambig? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:43, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
:Well, the branding seems to be ''Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters'', so I suppose it's more of a subline-imprint than a whole new franchise... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:17, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
::Does that mean it gets its own page? If it does, I'll be happy to create it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 19:06, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

== Voyager toy observances. ==

So, being polite (I didn't want to directly edit the page and add stuff without, you know, putting it here first) and having the toy in hand...

*He has a LOT of rubbery plastic that likes to deform (Some in the box, the beastmode head on mine is warped and I have no idea how it's supposed to look 'normally'). Presumably the Takara release will have hard plastic?
*His rocket launchers have a gear-mesh system that allows you to plug them together and fire them at the same time... But this function doesn't work in beastmode, the plugs on his shoulders are too wide to allow the gears to mesh. Which is somewhat perplexing as this presumably would be the entire point of the gear-mesh system?
*Finally, his tail-sword is a neat idea, but doesn't really work, his hands (Being rubbery plastic) don't have enough friction or room for the tabs to hold the sword functionally like in the promo pictures. It tends to just flop out of his hand if you place it there.

On that note, the Promo-picture is miss transformed in robot mode, he should have a black spike erected on either shoulder.

On a more childish/awesome note, with his rocket launchers on his arms, he looks like he has dragon-headed fists, complete with fireball punches.

--[[User:Slift|Slift]] 21:53, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

Scavenger (ROTF)

2009-11-30T13:49:08Z

Slift: /* Supreme Class toys */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Scavenger}}
{{disambig2|the Decepticon excavator in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]|the ''other'' Decepticon excavator in Revenge of the Fallen|Demolishor (ROTF)}}

:''Scavenger is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF Wheelbot concept art.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Decepticon concept of right of way: "I have the right, so get out of my way".]]

'''Scavenger''' transforms into a earth-mover shovel-crane.

When combined with his fellow [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], he forms part of the upper torso of [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]].

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' (movie)===
[[Image:Constructicons-ROTFcanyon.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Oh, he's a big'un.]]

During the climactic battle in [[Egypt]] between the Autobots, their human allies and [[The Fallen]]'s Decepticons, Scavenger appeared in a quarry with the other Constructicons before merging into Devastator to attack former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Leo Spitz]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. As Devastator smashed away at the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]] after shrugging off Skids and Mudflap, Simmons called upon the [[United States Navy]] to fire upon the giant Decepticon. The [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Kidd (DDG-100)|U.S.S. ''Kidd'']] fired her experimental [[Railgun|railgun]], smashing one of his arms to pieces and destroying Devastator. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Legends_Scavenger.jpg|thumb|250px|I'm the one who didn't speak; you must be thinking of [[Demolishor (ROTF)|the other fellow]].]]
*'''Scavenger''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D4'''

:Scavenger and the six other Legends class Constructicons combine to form Devastator.In Japan, the Legends class Constructicons are sold individually. Unlike the Voyager [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], he ''can'' pose with his scoop arms by using the alt-mode's treads as kickstands. He forms (most) of the body of Devastator.

*'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Legends figure multi-pack, 2010)

:In [[Hasbro]]'s markets, the Legends Constructicons are sold together as a store [[exclusive]].
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*'''EZ Collection Devastator - G1 Colors Version''' (Legends, 2010)
:Takara will reissue the seven Legend class Constructicons in G1 inspired green and purple color schemes.

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====Supreme Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Devastator_combiner_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|I'm the one you can't see.|Here I am, stuck in the middle with you... guys.]]
*'''Constructicon Devastator''' (2009)

: Scavenger is a '''''MASSIVE''''' excavator truck that forms the central body and shoulders of the Supreme class' Devastator. Because the Constructicons lack a robot mode in this set, he's really easy to transform, and thus is mostly hollow inside. Sadly, even though he is huge, he lacks a lot of the details Demolishor has, and also has a minimum of paint applications. He DOES however sport the tampographed letters THK-1139 on the side, which we can only assume is a [[Star Wars|subtle reference]] to the oft used Steven Spielberg/George Lucas number [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/1138_%28number%29 THX-1138]
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2009)

[[Image:rotf_desertdevastation_rh.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOTHING CAN STOP CUTESTATOR!]]

:Scavenger is the sculpted body of "Desert Devastation" Devastator, a super-sized ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' figure. He is only available in a multi-pack with [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] in their vehicle modes and [[William Lennox]].

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==Trivia==
*Scavenger is identical in design and vehicle form to [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], only sometimes differing in colour. Scavenger is mostly red with white striping and signage. This matches Demolishor's toy, [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|video game]] appearance, and [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 1|comic adaptation]] appearance. However, in the film itself, Demolishor is mostly white.
*Scavenger is the only Constructicon that shares a [[body-type]] but has his own name, unlike the Mixmasters, Rampages, Scrappers and Long Hauls in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.

[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Constructicons]]