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SnipinScientist: Created page with "Hello, I'm Andry I go by many many many others names online, since 2007 I've had the names: Avengelina, Andry Arovna, Fallout, Bonomin. I'm a curious and perceptive person, ..."

Hello, I'm Andry
I go by many many many others names
online, since 2007 I've had the names:
Avengelina, Andry Arovna, Fallout, Bonomin.

I'm a curious and perceptive person, and a prospective writer and story-teller.
I'm very much always anticipating to get immersed and invested in a new compelling Transformers story.

Talk:Decepticon

2019-01-21T21:44:14Z

SnipinScientist: Aligned Decepticon name origin

I had heard that Energon featured the Combiners as ancient Deceptions that likely predate Megatron. I haven't seen it myself but just throwing it out there. Also G1 Cartoon vs. Comic bots should likely get separate entries, since there's the whole "military hardware" lineage to mention for the toon, and the "Liege Maximo" as Megatron's ancestor, for the comic. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

::Energon confuses the shit out of me. I don't think anyone actually THOUGHT about what they were writing. 
::Any rate, yeah, for G1 we really should separate the two major continuities. I mean, the cartoon at once point says Megatron wasn't the first Decepticon... but had said he WAS earlier... SPEAKING of not thinking... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
* The Dorling Kindersly Book,makes him out as a Decepticon [[wikipedia:gladiator|Pit Fighter]] who battled his way up through the ranks. Look also to the other statuary visible during [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s coronation that tends to lend credence to Megatron not being the first Decepticon,rather the latest leader descending from the Quintesson's original military hardware product line. [[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

In Wreckers, Al Badur, who'd been exiled from Cybertron since prior to the Quint uprising, refers to Autobots and Decepticons. I'd say that the military line was CALLED the Decepticons. (And their sigil was likely their glave-brand, albeit as warriors, not servants) If Megatron 'founded' the Decepticon movement, he could be 'refounding' it, or co-opting what was otherwise an unrelated historical legacy. (Which is weak, but it has the merit of threading the needle between the conflicting evidence of War Dawn, FFoD and Desertion of the Dinobots.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

==Spellining==
Just sprucing things up. [[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 18:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

== Air Power ==

The Decepticons are mostly known for their military and air power. Starscream always turn into a jet. Megatron turns into military vehicles such as an M1 Abrams Superheavy Tank.

==Leader's rank==
I've noticed that while the Japanese fiction usually does the whole "something of Destruction", is there any sort of title for the leader of the Decepticons in Western fiction? I've seen "Decepticon commander" every now and then, and is that supposed to be the official title, or just a generic rank? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 03:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Galvatron - Decepticon ==

Under the robots in disguise section it says "The toy version of Galvatron was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was not established in the cartoon series." but in the episode maximus emerges when megs comes back as galvatron he says "which led to my rebirth as a decepticon". [[User:Donutter|Donutter]] 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

==RID episode?==
Do we actually have an episode page for RID's "The Decepticons"? The RID cartoon page says we do, but it redirects here.... and the disambiguation page redirects here too. Attempting to search for "The Decepticons (RID)" or "The Decepticons (episode)" were fruitless. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

==Catchphrase==
Does anyone think that the Animated Megatron's "Transform and Rise Up" would be effectively used as a quote on this page, either for the decepticons in general or for the Animated branch?

== Destron ==

I went to a Japanese Transformers fansite. The Yahoo! translator translated it smoothly. However, where I had expected to see the word "Destron", it was instead translated as "Deathtron". [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:14, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:A valid phonetic rendering of the characters.
:How do we know "Look" is pronounced "Luk" but "cool" is pronounced "kewl?" The same set of letters have multiple possible sounds... you just have to memorize whoch one is right by context. Same principle. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::The Japanese language does not have the /th/ sound (it's pretty uncommon). They transliterate it into Japanese as the 's' sound. So we get death → デス (''desu''). This then gets Romanized by those who don't know the origins of the word into "des". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:08, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

== RID ==

Shouldn't the RID Decepticons have a separate article? They're no more the same as normal Decepticons as RID Predacons are to G1 (or BW) Predacons, and they all get separate articles. --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 15:21, 30 January 2013 (EST)

== Galatians 4:16 and Orion Pax Part 1 quote ==

Is it appropriate to add another quote under the Aligned section {{quote|For if speaking the truth is Deception, then we are gladly guilty}}, from the episode Orion Pax: Part 1 spoken by Megatron (formerly D-16) to Orion Pax. This one makes explicit a canonical reason for the movement or faction to be called the way it is, and taken directly from the movement's creator, no less.

It just happens to be a coincidence but in Galatians 4:16 (kinda like D-16) it's said : Am I therefore become your enemy for telling you the truth ?
It mirrors the beliefs which he preached in Exodus about the system of caste that oppressed people, and the fact that the High Council chose to see him as an enemy, an agitator and the original perpetrator of the terrorist attacks happening on Cybertron (which he was but kept secret).--[[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist|talk]]) 16:44, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2018-12-17T00:07:26Z

SnipinScientist: /* Matrix 1999 reference */ new section

== Quotes ==
I think Ratchet's line "Jolt, electrify" should be in the quotes because, c'mon, JOLT ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING. --[[Special:Contributions/75.82.9.197|75.82.9.197]] 01:38, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

==Chromia==

Where's Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}
:They haven't been "confirmed". They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn't Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.
:Because it is '''illegally acquired information'''. That simple. We'll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases ''official photographs'' of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

== Paramount pictures cast list. ==

[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it's dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}
::I agree, they didn't pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it "Longhaul", or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

== Japanese world premiere. ==

With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are <nowiki>[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]</nowiki>? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:You'd better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

==Transmitter at official site==

What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can't remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it's updated much. << >> --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

==How about an actual article?==
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn't this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia? And is the stuff about the Writers' Strike really neccesary? I'd edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it's a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It's better than Wikipedia's page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer's Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can't edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y'know... we see the movie. Till then, there's not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they'd just be swept away under the deluge of information that we'll have when the film is released.
:That said, I feel your pain. "Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons" seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we've ''seen them in the trailer''. '''ETA:''' If you'd seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

::At the same time, I don't really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We'll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don't release much in the way of information). Besides, as I've understood this wiki, our focus is on the ''content of the fiction itself'' and ''the characters'' starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We're not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Could we at least organize this in paragraph form? It wouldn't take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I'd ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
:I don't think that would make the article better at all. The article as-is is a list of things. Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything. We don't need to pretend that this article isn't a list. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
::I'm gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait. It's like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java. Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I'm pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an "actual article" as I'm sure you're insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:I figure it'll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release. After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn't aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it's fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==

As the title says. Do we need a new, updated "No spoilers" disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes and yes and then some. We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors. (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now? Miracle!) --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

==Score==
Should the score's info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1245109298&sr=301-2 Amazon Germany's listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said "no" ==

Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]

Translation:

:''Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That's how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay ("Armageddon") had planned it for his action flick ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''.''

:''But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, "but unfortunately, the German government said no", the 44 year old director said at Sunday's German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn't been a problem - he had a direct connection there.''

Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

:What? Germany isn't allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}
:: You shouldn't be able to state such garbage [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

==Errors and Inconsistencies==
I've just seen the film. I'm not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:Basic outline here: "Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline". Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
why cant we edit things on the rotf page especially the errors because i have one to add

== Unnamed Decepticons ==

Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie's not going to help, as it was ''incredibly'' lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Mysterious voice credits ==
Frank Welker is credited as "Reedman" along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and "Skipjack". Do we know who these characters are? It doesn't help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name "Skipjack" aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can't think of the context it was in. --
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Devastator clearly said "DEVASTATOR!" during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting "DEVASTATOR!" at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don't recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, I couldn't decide if the roar of "DEVASTATOR!" was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn't be ''that'' odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron's voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'm also with that Megatron's the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::In the IMAX it was clearly Megatron based on where the sound was coming from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:49, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
Demolisher is in the credits as Wheelbot. But I kept missing it. First time, some dickhead at the back started sticking his hands in front of the projector and blocking it. As for Devastator, he NEVER speaks. Megs yells Devastator's name. Welker just handled roars and snarls (some blatant Welker animal noises are in there)[[User:Eire]] 15.57 25th June 09

:Reedman ''has'' to be the raptor-like thing formed by the [[Microcon (ROTF)|ball bearing bot]]s. He's a reed-thin man.
:Sweet, nice to know he has a name. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::This seems to be corroborated by the Decepticons DS game (not the best source, given the divergence of video game plots, but an official one): before the mission to steal the All Spark shard you're told that "Ravage and Reed Man" have been sent ahead to secure the target... presumably referencing the skinny con's theft of the object in question. --[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 17:44, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Any chance you can get an exact quote on that? (Because it seems to present Reedman has his own character, rather than a remote probe controlled by Ravage, and I'd like to be able to cite it.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:56, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I'm afraid not. The dialogue popped up on the map screen between missions instead of within the mission itself, so it's not replayable, and I was surprised enough by it the first time I didn't think to write it down. I could start another file and play through to that point again (though I'd rather not, it's a bit of a letdown compared to the first movie's DS games), but at the moment all I can say for sure is that it referred to them as a duo, "Ravage and Reed Man," with Reed Man parsed as two words like that, not one.--[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 02:35, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:Well jeez! Sounded like a people-name! I wonder who "Skipjack" is, then? He... he couldn't be the little guy who gets killed for parts, could be? That guy didn't speak words, but he did make a sort of cry/yelp of protest as he was set upon. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::That was one of the film's legions of Constructicons. Probably not a "Skyjack." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::''Skip''jack. But, eh, i'm just tossin' it out there. The identity of the sacrificial guy does not really seem to be confirmed - people are just assuming he's a Constructicon because the other three were Long Haul, Mixmaster and Rampage, and Hightower's vehicle was on the barge, but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance (and as a dirty great crane, Hightower would hardly be "the little one"). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:58, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I paid attention to the "little one"'s silhouette when I saw the movie again yesterday, and it most resembled Scrapper. Particularly its skinny legs. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Let's see, that was about 40 minutes in so... ''*runs up MP3 of the movie's audio*''
::::No, the 'parts' con doesn't make more than a few Ewok burbles.
::::Could he be the jackhammer-Decepticon that kidnapped Ron and Judy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:14, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::As it transpires, yes. [http://www.aciphex.com/ This interview] (search for "Skipjack") makes it pretty clear that Skipjack was the working name for the red bulldozer identified onscreen as Rampage. So it's a Demolishor/Wheelbot situation, apparently. Disappointing resolution, especially since it still leaves us with two bulldozers named Rampage. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::I.... theeeenk you may have got your link wrong, there? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::[https://www.editorsguild.com/FromtheGuild.cfm?FromTheGuildid=84 He probably meant this one.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:22, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::THe sad thing is that I can't even come up with a funny rationale for the link to AcipHex here. (I was originally linking it elsewhere because the TV won't stop telling me to try Ass Effects - guess it stayed in my clipboard.) FAiled. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:25, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::No, Starscream specifically calls him Rampage. (And he is Rampage.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Wasn't Devastator already formed by that point? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:19, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Sure, but there were lots of Constructicons running around the same time as Devastator was formed (the group from the barge turn up with Ravage partway through the fight). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::It just sounds like a likely name for his color-swap. (Which in this case, i guess... was forming Devastator.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::''but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance''
:::[http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/41048.html Some douchebag] posted bootleg screencaps of the Laurentian Abyss sequence on his blog.
:::While not appropriate for inclusion here as a ''primary source'', useful for IDing nonetheless. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:24, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I should probably post what I did on LJ here. Re: the last photo - those claws don't look anything alike. That's no game-only generic. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::And ''I'' should probably post what I did on LJ here. The game-model and movie-model for Constructicon Scout are different (thus the clamps not matching) but Constructicon Scout is ''definitely'' in the movie. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
[[Image:Cs_scrapper.jpg|thumb]]
:::As Walky so bluntly put it-- "It's scrapper."
:::Or rather- the Constructicon Scout is based on Scrapper. An extra layer of confusion is added because the Scrapper toy lacks the giant arms that the CS has-- ''and'' [http://i44.tinypic.com/1zzji3l.gif the character in the movie has]. But since there's only one Scraper toy that Transformes, apparently we're treating his truncated arms as a concession to toy engineering.
:::So would it be ''more accurate'' to say that Scrapper ''is'' a Constructicon Scout? Or is physically identical to them? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:06, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
I don't know if this helps, but in the somewhat inaccurate comic version of the movie, Ravage, Long Haul, and Scrapper are clearly seen jumping off the boat, so it may mean Scrapper is "the little one?[[Special:Contributions/71.199.127.210|71.199.127.210]] 13:37, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:Reviving this, I rewatched the movie recently and the vehicles were clearly Rampage, Mixmaster, Long Haul and a treaded vehicle (which Scrapper is not), which Allspark user Legend-of-Blackout [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=60532&view=findpost&p=1280204 identified as a Volvo excavator]. And also, based on the leaked design for Scrapper in that big Devastator pic from a few days back, Scrapper's arms are much thicker than the ones on Scrapmetal. I have no idea what to make of this, but even if he just reuses Scrapper's robot mode model, his different alt mode would qualify him as a new character, would it not? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:32, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::So it seems he isn't Scrapper or Hightower. We need an article for [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|ze little one]] immediately. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:23, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
I just want to point out that there are clearly shown 5 constucticons on the ship's deck but only 4 at any given time. The frontend loader(scrapper) and the excavator(scrap metal) seem to trade spots at times and it is the (Scrapper bot that is shown to jump into the water. You would think that it should have been the ecavator as it would make more sense on thats where Megatron gets the treads from but later in Egypt, just before Devistator merges, if you pause it right as you see Hightower(the large yellow truss crain) you can see the volvo excavator(scrap meatal behind him. [[Special:Contributions/68.20.110.38|68.20.110.38]] 12:49, 6 April 2011 (EDT)joe

==It's UpGrade Time==
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09
: Yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Foreign titles ==

Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean "Revenge of The Fallen" in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: They shouldn't be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:: The frensh versin is called "transformers: the revenge"(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::: That's different enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as "The Revenge of the Defeated" when I put it through Google Translate. Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::: Inasmuch as "defeated" doesn't have the same additional connotations of "falling from grace" or "killed in battle" as the original English, I'd say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Trivia cull ==

One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this "trivia" is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it ''should'' be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Not-Bonecrusher ==

I'm assuming that the guy who wasn't Bonecrusher was actually [[Constructicon Scout]]. Is that a safe guess to go with? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
: I didn't see any Bonecrusher in the film. People just say they saw Bonecrusher's altmode, the Buffalo. No robot mode, far as I'm aware. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:: I think he was running around during the Egypt battle. You could see him standing behind some pillars. Since there were multiple Constructicons running around, this was evidently was not the very-dead Bonecrusher.[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 12:07, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::It was definitely a use of the CGI Bonecrusher model in robot mode. [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:09, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*swears*</nowiki> I was hoping it was the Constructicon Scout, but he has a different robot mode. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:14, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::You can definitely see Bonecrusher's vehicle mode rolling in with the other Decepticons. I don't recall seeing his robot mode, but then again, he looks quite similar in robot mode to a bunch of Constructicons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:42, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
So I saw it again in IMAX. That's definitely Bonecrusher rolling in.
# His remains weren't among those being disposed of after the first movie.
# We've got a toy bio stating he survived.
# He's ''in'' the ^&*( second film.
Baring Hasbro releasing a redeco and declaring this a new character, it looks like Bonecrusher really ''did'' survive. And until that happens, I'm going with the face-value reading and removing the "a Bonecrusher lookalike" note in the cast list. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Good points! I agree. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::I disagree. I think "a toy bio stating he survived" is completely irrelevant, as we got one of those for Jazz, too. That was definitely Bonecrusher's vehicle mode in ROTF, but I sure as hell don't think it was actually Bonecrusher, any more than I think that the helicopter was Blackout. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That is your personal canon. The fiction says otherwise. The toy bio is completely irrelevant iff it contradicts the movies. This time the movies back it up. It is willful blindness to say Bonecrusher isn't in the movie when he is right there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::It's willful blindness to assume similar alt means same guy, in a movie where a guy with Blackout's body-type is quite prominent. G1 colourd Jazz's bio says he survives. Brawl's got a ROTF repaint. He was decapitated and had his whole head smashed in. He's dead Jim. Writing a whole section of fiction you made up on Bonecrusher's page is madness. Give the toy bio it's own section and a note that we see his vehicle mode among the protoforms and leave it at that. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 15.28 30 June 09 (UTC)

== Character profiles ==

I'm starting to see descriptions of the character's movie role around the wiki. Is this okay yet? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:32, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:So long as you use the proper spoiler tags.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:34, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::What about the articles that have the "do not add information" tags? Can we start to take those down? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::The coming soon tags? Yeah, those were just waiting for the film release.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Our policy on new releases is that if the media has been officially released in a language you can understand, you are well within your rights to be write up a summary, as long as you put up a spoiler tag. Like Wikipedia, we urge people to be bold, but be smart. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

== More Quotes ==

What other quotes do you want to use (i.e: "I RISE, YOU FALL." from Optimus Prime)?
: I really don't think the umpteenth regurgitation of the TFTM-quote-that-will-not-die is worth singling out for praise. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

What does anyone think about the opening monologue by Prime as one of the captions? I can only remember so much, anybody got it?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:09, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
: “Earth. Birthplace of the human race, a species much like our own. Capable of great compassion... and great violence. For in our quest to protect the humans, a deeper revelation dawns; our worlds have met before.”

“For the last two years, an advanced team of new Autobots has taken refuge here under my command. Together, we form an alliance with the humans, a secret but brave squad of soldiers. A classified strike team called NEST. We hunt for what remains of our Decepticon foes, hiding in different countries around the globe.” [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]
:Exposition is notable?! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:13, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::Doesn't quite have the ring of '''"BEFORE TIME BEGAN THERE WAS... ''THE CUBE''.'''" --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:16, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

==Five/Six Contacts Error==
Wouldn't this NOT be an error, since Ravge ejected Scalpel from his chest, thereby replacing Hightower? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|07:44, 28 June 2009}}
:You mean Scrapper, who was the one killed. And yeah, that's what I thought while watching the film, though I wondered if Scalpel was actually large enough to register? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:48, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::HAY GUYS - Hightower and Scrapper WEREN'T EVEN THERE. Four Constructicons jumped in - Red Rampage, Long Haul, Mixmaster and Small Excavator Guy. Unnamed dude was killed. Megatron, Scalpel and Ravage make six contacts surfacing.
::: Ahem, from Scalpel's page "...Using parts "donated" by Hightower..."
::: Anywho, the point is, wouldn't Scalpel's presence nullify the error? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|08:41, 28 June 2009}}
::::It is neither Scrapper nor Hightower. I have since edited articles and have removed the error. The unnamed is a small Volvo excavator similar to Demolishor's vehicle mode as he was incorrectly depicted in the ROTF adaptation comic. It did not look like Hightower's truss crane. Also, sign off on your comments, it is difficult to know who is saying what. See the signature button next to the crossed out W? Click that. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:24, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Adding extra confusion: The possibility that the extra reading was Blackout.
:::::On my second viewing, it really looks like The Doctor ''strikes'' the shard in Megatron's chest rather than permanantly inserting it. Maybe they ''did'' revive Blackout. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:18, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Grindor's from space. Megatron left the Constructicons, Ravage, and the Doctor far behind on Earth, and he traveled allll the way up to Saturn to visit the Nemesis. And what's he find in the Nemesis? Starscream and hatchlings. And next we see Megatron on Earth, he's with Starscream. And another guy. That guy was a hatchling. That guy was Grindor. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::He's also with The Doctor, who should be with Ravage and the Constructicons.
:::::::I don't actually think the Helicopter ''is'' Blackout-- I mean he has a '''different altmode''' fergods sake. If Bay intended it to be Blackout he'd have used the same helicopter, regardless whether it'd been retired or not. And anyway- HASBRO clearly thinks that's Grindor.
:::::::I'm just trying to figure out what might've been goign through the movie production's head with that funny number. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I imagine they filmed the blips on the radar approximately nine months before animating/rendering/writing the scene of the guys underwater. WHOOPS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Given that they went to the trouble of getting Welker for Soundwave and the forgot to put a vocoder over him, I could believe it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Though considering Welker apparently didn't like what the G1 cartoon did to his Soundwave voice, it's possible he asked Bay to not process it, and Bay was cool with that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:23, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::Can I ask why it is stated as fact that Scalpel is too small to be detected by the submarine in the trivia section? Isn't that just speculation?[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 15:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::Considering that sonar and radar work the same way, the smaller the object the smaller the signature. It makes sense that Scalpel--being about a foot long and tall--wouldn't be shown on the sonar. If you look at the screen, there's one small signature going down and coming up, probably Ravage considering his size. It makes sense.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 21:26, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::::::::Scalpel's about the size of a fish. I don't know for certain, but I'm pretty sure if the radar raised a contact alert every time a fish swam towards the sub, it'd be pretty useless. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:56, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Ravage is the size of a jaguar, which is what? the size of a shark? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:05, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Is he? I don't remember any shots in the movie where his size was even established, offhand. I thought he was pretty big though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Hasbro [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm battle bios] say he is "4 ft." but I can't really tell if that means 4 feet tall or 4 feet long or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:25, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Starfield, if he was four feet long, he'd be pretty damn small, considering how long his tail is. We see him next to the alt modes of several transformers and we see him on Bee. He's at least as big as a tiger, probably bigger. [[User:Eire|Eire]]
::::::::::::::::Well sonuvabitch, you guys got me second guessing myself. Thanks. Now I gotta go watch the movie again.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:53, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

I think that perhaps Grindor is Blackout revived, which would take care of the 5/6 inconsistency. {{unsigned|72.67.21.14}}
:As stated above, Grindor is not Blackout. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:09, 7 February 2010 (EST)

== Graham ==

Whatever happened to that Agent Graham guy. Was he even in it? He is still in the credits on the official ROTF website. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:Wasn't he that one British guy with NEST? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:49, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, he wore a brown beret. [[Special:Contributions/79.68.235.108|79.68.235.108]] 16:01, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::He's the Tom Cruise lookalike with about three lines.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 03:25, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::And he wasn't an "agent", he was supposedly a member of the SASF, a fictionalized version of the Special Air Service. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::He is "SASF Agent Graham" on the [http://www.transformersmovie.com/ official movie website]. What's SASF stand for? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:54, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Of [http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SASF the various potential meanings for the SASF acronym], the most sensible one for this situation appears to be "South African Special Forces".--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:46, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::I don't think "South African Special Forces" is at all sensible for a guy from the UK. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:17, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Probably actually means "Special Air Service Forces" or somesuch fictional thing. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::"Synthetic Alien Strike Fighters" or, even better, "Secret Autobot Surveillance Force" (the government wouldn't really let giant robots run around without some spooks watching them, would they?) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:18, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Frenzy's head ==
This error keeps on getting added/deleted endlessly, some official consensus would be good. His head didn't blow up, it was sliced it half, so it's not terribly unreasonable that the two pieces were glued or welded back together. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 22:06, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

== Images? ==

I happen to have a downloaded version of Revenge of The Fallen (I DID go to the movie, and I AM going to buy the dvd, so stop whining!), would you like me to make some screencaps and upload them?
(Particularly Reedman and Arcee miss clear images){{unsigned|ThiAthEhn|13:58, 1 July 2009}}
:The enthusiasm and offer of help are appreciated, but unfortunately screencaps from a pirated download would get us in deep doo-doo. Thanks for asking before uploading, though.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::To elaborate, we have a policy against using images or information from unofficial, leaked or stolen sources, which obviously includes screencaps from a blurry camjob of Revenge of the Fallen. The DVD will be out in 3-4 months anyway. We can wait. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::We could use screens taken from the trailers and released clips and such though right? Or realsed screencaps? [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)
::::Absolutely. As long as it's a thing that was officially approved and released, go nuts. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center location ==

Regarding the grafting of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center] to the Boneyard: it should be noted that the UHC is in ''Chantilly, VA'', rather outside of Washington, DC proper. There is actually more space next to the hangar, where Jetfire would have exited if they didn't have the compositing transition to the Boneyard. However, while the area's grassy and flat, it's surrounded by small chunks of forest (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dulles_Tower_360.JPG], it looks right out over the hangar entrance he would have exited from), and is further connected to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Dulles_International_Airport Dulles Airport] in the distance. :) I can only assume they went with the visual assumption that "hey, it's a museum, they'd have lots of mothballed planes around, and what's there right now is boring", but that's purely speculation on my part. Either way you slice it, it's still an "error"...

I just find this amusing, given that the UHC is one of the IMAX theaters where ROTF is being ''shown''... :) [[Special:Contributions/96.231.155.47|96.231.155.47]] 22:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:And there's a HUGE IMAX logo ''in'' the movie...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:41, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

I honestly wonder how many people had never really payed attention to the outside of the UHC, and tried to go around the side of the building after seeing it in IMAX. I'm from nearby the UHC, and I thought it was really funny to see a bunch of people in the theatres whisper to the person next to them, "hey, that's not outside the UHC." - Garebear22

==Caption theme==
Since the first film used a TF:TM theme, why not use the abandoned Star Wars theme here. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)
:Specifically, ''Empire''. Kurtzman and Orci even said they were trying to match it in terms of upping the menace and having the Fallen be like the Emperor. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Suggestion - lock this article so only registered users can edit. ==

I am sure we are all sick and tired of anonymous people coming in and making stupid, incorrect, poorly spelled edits to our a article. Let's just lock this down so that we only need to watch out for newbie editors. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:09, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:Seconded. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:02, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:The motion's seconded. Aye. Does motion carry?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== French title ==
Could you add back the fact that the French title has no ''2'' in it (at least, not in the Quebec version. You tell 'em, Detour), because some IP (80.236.81.91) undid my edit. Probably thought that because all other foreign titles had a 2, French was no different. Anyway I would do it myself if it wasn't for the semi-protection (which I am totally for). I know it's kind of silly to ask other people to do modifications for me, but please. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 21:08, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:[http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_16816.html Êtes-vous certains?] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:14, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::We indeed do not have a 2 in our Transformers title in Quebec. Maybe it's just France? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:35, 2 July 2009 (EDT)`
::Non-teaser trailer supports this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9uUVkYB6Aw&fmt=18] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Les Français sont toujours causé des problèmes. Peut-être qu'ils pensent qu'il est numérotée en métrique? Si le film a utilisé un chiffre romain ils se seraient probablement merde leur pantalon et ensuite les manger. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Please stop butchering my language. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Seconded. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Ce n'est pas de ma faute! Il est le poisson vivant dans mon oreille! En tout cas, de véritables langues sont basés sur ECMAScript. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::"English, dude. English." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Thanks. Oh, and Derik, please stop. It kinda hurts me as a Frenchie-Canuck to see that. Plus, you're probably using internet translation, which as you can see is quite pitiful. Nice one LoneGamer, BTW. I couldn't have said it better. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 20:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

== Section ordering/technical details ==

Looking at the 2007 movie page... it's got a LOT of really boring-ass info on it. Formatting, foreign movie board ratings, etc, etc.... all that stuff should be waaaaaaay down near the bottom, if not on an entirely separate page, considering how long the 2007 movie page is.

And likewise for this one. Why is cast before the synopsis? Why do we need a list of foreign titles taking up the entire first screen of the page? Etc. etc.? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:37, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

== Appearance Order ==

Minor error, but still an error. Both Sam and Sideswipe are ordered as the ninth characters to appear in the film. Article locked, so I can't make the correction. --[[User:TheGoodman|TheGoodman]] 04:56, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

== Edit ==

Okay, I understand by the edit button's been switched to OFF but it there anyway to add to references? It came to me last night that the epic forest show down might be a reference to [[Code of Hero]].
: That is a perfect example of why the edit button's been switched to off. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:31, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
then they should turn it on so we can edit some stuff

== Main cast order of appearance numbers ==

Do we really need them? Our [[Transformers (film)]] article doesn't have them. Some [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Revenge_of_the_Fallen_(film)&diff=322311&oldid=322298 anonymous idiot] took it upon himself to number the characters in a pretty horrible, incorrect fashion, and while people have since repositioned the names, the order of appearance is still wrong. And we're missing [[Graham|a character]] from the list. I would think people here who actually care about the accuracy of the wiki (ie, the staff and regular contributors) don't have the time and money to go see the movie again just to jot down when characters appear, so may I suggest we remove the numbering nonsense and restore this box to the way it was before whichever staff member opened up the anonymous floodgates? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:34, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:We should probably add a flag to {{tl|featuredcharacters}} to suppress the "(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)" message where it wouldn't be logical. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:00, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::I agree. If there wasn't a "(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)", people wouldn't try adding the numbers when we don't need the numbers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:34, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== Pigs/Meat locker error ===
I don't get it, so if the owner is jewish that doesn't mean they can't supply pig meat to those who aren't jewish. Is this really considered an error? [[Special:Contributions/68.9.247.42|68.9.247.42]] 00:49, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

==Other goofs==
<s>You could fairly state that the Gulf of Aqaba does divide Egypt and Jordan, because those two countries could share a border if that body of water was not there.</s> Never mind this one, I misunderstood the nature of the error.

Joran and Egypt do have an area where the two countries do meet, on land, and it is possible that they do have at least one border between them. The area is small, it is roughly the size of Montreal and would likely only have one or two borders. [[User:Raiderdline61|Raiderdline61]] 18:11, 7 June 2010

<s>One to be added is that the Predator drone is depicted two different ways. The Predator has a propellor, and you can see this when it takes off since it's footage of the actual vehicle. When the CGI model of the Predator approaches the battle, it has no propellor. I think the first film had the same goof. I'd add it myself, but due to semi-protection I can't do that yet.</s> Added. [[User:Hellbus|Hellbus]] 17:45, 26 July 2009 (EDT)

When Mikaela uses the tongs to grab Wheelie, a mirror mysteriously appears on the workshop floor and reflects a lot of sunlight into the camera. When the sunlight fades away Wheelie can finally be seen. I suppose it helps make the CGI look more seamless. -Anonymous, 24 July 2009

I have a theory about one of the scenes. When Sam got picked up from the party it was night, when they got to the scene in the graveyard it was daytime. What if the trip to the cemetary took all night so that the autobots could stay out of sight, and the conversation took place in the morning? just a thought. -Anonymous, 27 July 2009

==transforming pen/light==
:It just hit me that when i went to see the movie, that i got a promotional item on the night i saw the movie; a transforming pen/light with the movie's logo on it. Is it worth noting somewhere that such a thing exists?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:41, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

== The Serbian title (lol) ==

The alleged title "Transformersi: Najveće govno ikada" actually means "Transformers: The Biggest S**t Ever". :D It should be "Transformersi: Osveta Poraženog" {{unsigned|Prokletinick}}
:Some might say that was a more accurate title! Thanks, I've corrected it. Any idea if there's a "2" in the official Serbian title? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:10, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

:Well, I've looked it up, and no, there isn't. --[[User:Prokletinick|Prokletinick]] 11:17, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

== Anti-Arab subtext ==

...How is destroying and damaging various Middle Eastern landmarks anti-Arab? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:57, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:As someone who is dating an Arab, has met a LOT of Arabs, is comparatively familiar with Arab culture, and has become pretty sensitive to such things over the years... I have ''no. freaking. clue.'' I added it primarily 'cause I think the notion is ''hilarious''. Of all the things in the movie to fixate on... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:08, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
::Alice tearing up Princeton is an obvious sign of anti-intellectualism. And Blackout's attack on the military base in the first film demonstrate a clear anti-military slant. And lot's not forget Bay's previous film, Armageddon, and its obvious anti-Earth agenda. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:12, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
When large amounts of a movie take place in Arab countries but the only Arab characters we see either exist to be laughed at (the border guard) or as cannon fodder (the Jordanian helicopters), people seeing an anti-Arab subtext strikes me as perfectly reasonable. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:31, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:To be fair, most every other human in the movie was ''also'' a redshirt or comic relief. {{unsigned|TheMZone}} 15:40, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

== Jewish deli? ==

Are we sure the Simmons family is Jewish? Seymour was wearing a friggin' cross around his neck in the first film.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:23, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
: The novelization says he's Jewish, but that's just the novelization. (More specifically, at the road check somewhere Egypt, Simmons calls these folks "his people," to which Sam is surprised, since he thought Simmons was Jewish. Simmons responds: "I'm one thirty-sixth Arab. Hey, Kosher, halal - it's the same thing.") --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:: Well, as it stands, there are no Jews in the movies. Israel doesn't even exist.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:47, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:::His mother's name is Tova, which might as well be Jewette. Of course, that's no guarantee they'd run a kosher business. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 12:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::So why was he wearing a cross in the first movie, then? Also, is her name confirmed for the movie?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:20, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::Obviously he was a wearing a cross in the first movie because they didn't decide to make him Jewish until the second. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:32, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::But is he definitely a Jew in the movie? Or is that only in the novelization? Maybe Alan Dean Foster's Seymour Simmons is a Jew, but Orci/Kurtzman's Simmons is Catholic? Can we tell for sure?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:46, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::[http://www.jews-for-jesus.org/ Jews for Jesus]? *is half-kidding* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:54, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::: He converted. Broke his poor mother's heart, he did. Seymour, why didn't you become a doctor like your cousin Morty? A government agent? You'll never get a nice wife that way! [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 14:09, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::"Pretending to be protestant to get ahead." It's a game as old as America, and presumably well-in-force in good-old-boy secret organizations like Sector Seven. (Which in some versions is run by Freemasons.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:17, 17 August 2009 (EDT)
Tova can be a Norwegian name (albeit usually a male name). He was definitely wearing a cross in the first movie. As for the Deli, I recall it had some sort of Italian name, along with Simmons. Maybe his mother's (Italian) last name?
:::::::Also why would a ''Jewish'' deli have friggin' ''pigs'' being butchered there? --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 10:32, 16 November 2009 (EST)

== Name ==

The name for Brazil is "A Vingança dos Derrotados" {{unsigned|201.25.169.239}}

== Changes before, during and after production ==

According to Paul Ozzimo's art gallery, the attack on the aircraft carrier was originally planned to be a Decepticon Submarine attacking the carrier. Is this worth mentioning?
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== Another Transformers reference ==

Maybe the following reference should be added to the page: ''On board the ''[[Nemesis (Movie)|Nemesis]]'', [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] says "yesss...", which is a trademark habit of the [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.--[[Special:Contributions/172.129.64.182|172.129.64.182]] 12:45, 5 October 2009 (EDT)

==You mention Changing Gears, but not Sun Raid?==
I notice that the episode Changing Gears was mentioned as having a device like the Sun Harvester, but how about the same kind of device Megatron tried to use in [[Sun Raid (Listen 'n Fun)|Sun Raid]]? [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 09:54, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
:The Solar Harvester is not a reference to either one, but "Changing Gears" is the one people will absolutely ''not shut the hell up about''. It's listed there in its current format because my preferred version ("Anyone who thinks the incredibly generic notion of a device to suck energy out of the sun is a reference to a random forgotten Generation 1 episode, and not just an incredibly generic idea that's been done a billion times before in science fiction, is an ''absolute freaking moron''") probably wouldn't go over so well. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:16, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
::Yes... well... anyway. I, for one, wasn't aware of a similar device in Sun Raid. Now I have a reason to listen to the story. Thanks for the info 68.61.240.172. But the "Transformers references" section is generally reserved for items we imagine the writers looked to past fiction for inspiration for. In the case of the Solar Harvester, they probably did not have the cartoon episode in mind. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:35, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
::I'd support that revision, Rob! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:25, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

== Airport security error ==

When errors are listed in the form of a question, I sometimes have the urge to answer them. "How on Earth did the big metal box containing a complex electronic mechanism shouting to be released ever make it through airport luggage screening?" I don't know about the film, but in the novel it is Mikaela's Epic Hotness that distracts the guard into just letting her through. That and she said there were expensive mechanic's tools inside so it might look strange in an x-ray. Sure I have my doubts that would happen in the real-world, but that is the in-fiction explanation. That is the same fictional universe that gave us... well, this movie. That is hardly the least believable thing. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:35, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
:I probably should be more disciplined about avoiding question-style notes, if only for this very reason. It's an open invite for anons to do stupid shit like posting speculatory answers. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:56, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

== Reception section ==

Yea, but what does the [[fandom]] think? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:00, 5 November 2009 (EST)
: They are 100% in agreement, I assure you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:22, 6 November 2009 (EST)

== Shockwave (G1) appeared in Revenge ERROR!!! ==

G1 Shockwave actually appeared in Revenge of the Fallen as in the newspaper danggling in between Skids and Mudflap, meanwhile, holding for dear life from Devastator.

[[Image:TF2G1ShockwaveScreenshot.jpg]] [[Image:TF2G1ShockwaveCloseup.jpg]]
Surprisingly, Shockwave's also holding for dear life too.
:[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:34, 18 November 2009 (EST)

== Location of final battle ==

I've been planning on writing a detailed account of the final battle in the film, starting with the Decepticons landing as protoforms and ending with Optimus killing the Fallen, like we did with [[Battle of Autobot City]] and [[Mission City]]. However, I have no idea where to place this article. Should I write it up in [[Giza]]? [[Aqaba]]? [[Egypt]]? Or should I just place it in some other article, like "Battle for the Matrix" or "Battle for the solar harvester"? Any thoughts? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:33, 26 November 2009 (EST)
:Seriously, any thoughts? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Aqaba sounds good. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:12, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Late, but [[Operation: Firestorm]] [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 23:32, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Very late. I ended up writing [[Operation: Firestorm]] because I couldn't decide where to put it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:54, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Well then, issue resolved. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 20:33, 4 October 2010 (EDT)

== Not an error ==

I don't think that Optimus' mouthplate being restored is an error when he's seen taking off after being merged with Jetfire's corpse parts. I really shouldn't have to point out why, but I will: A new mouthplate was slapped on him too. You can even see it if you watch carefully. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 13:15, 18 December 2009 (EST)

== Frenzy ==

Should there be mention of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s cameo? Would it go under "Transformers references"? [[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:39, 11 January 2010 (EST)
:He should be in the cast list. He isn't dead. Simmons wasn't shown killing him since [[Transformers: The Veiled Threat| The Veiled Threat]], and I seriously doubt he would kill him. He likes having a captured living Transformer too much. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:44, 11 January 2010 (EST)
::Frenzy died in the first movie. Simmons has his dead head in a jar. This is what the movies show us. He should not be in the cast list because he is not part of the cast. He's a prop. I had no idea he was depicted as being alive in "The Veiled Threat," but regardless of that I find the thought of listing a severed-head-in-a-jar as if he's actually in any way a ''character'' in the movie to be ridiculous. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:54, 11 January 2010 (EST)
:::The dead head cameo doesn't work with "Veiled Threat" anyhow. The book describes it as half a head, still bisected from Frenzy's fate in the first movie, while the head is pristine in the film. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:00, 11 January 2010 (EST)
::::The pristine head doesn't work with the first film either. If it can't be alive because it was cut in half in the novel, then it can't even be Frenzy's head because that was cut in half in the first movie. The novel is the "official prequel", so Frenzy's head being alive is official and everything. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:27, 11 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Alive or dead, he's still really not a character in this movie. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:20, 11 January 2010 (EST)
==Star wars quotes? What in the name of Primes?==
What is it with the corny star wars quotes for the image captions? I mean seriously...[[Special:Contributions/86.170.40.126|86.170.40.126]] 16:41, 14 January 2010 (EST)

Go look at the article for the '86 movie. It is perpetuation of a gag. [[Special:Contributions/98.119.124.232|98.119.124.232]] 23:36, 13 March 2010 (EST)

== Technical errors ==

Could there, by a slim possibility, ''be'' a spiderweb in the Tomb of the Primes? I put it in the errors section, and noone's taken it down yet, but I wonder. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 15:42, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

== Mouthplate error not an error ==

I removed the comment in technical errors about Optimus gaining his mouthplate again because it shows, very clearly, that before he was boosted by Jetfire-parts, he had no mouthplate, and he was also clearly shown that a new mouthplate flew onto him while he was upgrading.

== Reflector was first wasn't he? ==

Reading through the tf references featured in ROTF I noticed that somebody said Devastator was the first combiner in the G1 cartoon. Surely Reflector, assuming we agree that Reflector counts as a combiner, was the first combiner featured in G1- albeit less of a famous one. I don't appear to be able to edit this so could somebody just modify it to 'devastator who was a combiner in g1' rather than 'devastator who was the first combiner in g1'. Cheers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:91.85.166.143|91.85.166.143]] ([[User talk:91.85.166.143|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/91.85.166.143|contribs]]){{#if:18:08, 11 December 2010 (EST)| 18:08, 11 December 2010 (EST)|}}.
:Reflector wasn't a combiner. He was one dude with three bodies. Or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:30, 11 December 2010 (EST)
::Three dudes who ''combined'' to form a gestalt altmode no? Not as famous as devy but theres certainly some combining at work there {{unsigned|91.85.131.165}}
:::Please sign your posts, by typing four tildes at the end. That aside, you may have a point. Our [[Combiner]] page explicitly mentions Reflector as a combiner. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:41, 12 December 2010 (EST)

== Why is Scavenger not in the character list? ==

He was in the movie so why is he cut out? {{unsigned|86.131.248.230}}

== It's a Decepticon!! ==

This part has always left me kind of confused. At some point in the movie, as also written in the synopsis in here, "[...] in order to read the symbols, they may need a Decepticon. Mikaela then interrogates Wheelie, who identifies the symbols as the Language of the Primes, and suggests they may track down one of the ancient Seekers [...]"

So, if they already knew that they needed for a ''Decepticon'', what reason did they have to freak out like that when they reawakened Jetfire and saw his Decepticon symbol? --[[User:Sharky7|Sharky7]] 03:23, 6 March 2011 (EST)
:I think it's that they probably weren't expecting the Seeker that they're looking for to be also a Decepticon. Wheelie's the only Decepticon they've somewhat gotten along with fine without fear of loosing any body parts. Being Cybertronian he might not ''understand'' the Language of the Primes itself but he is able to recognize the origins. Like how some people are able to recognize the general look of Egyptian hieroglyphics but not understand what it means or how it's pronounced, be it from research or a simple trip to the museum. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 6 March 2011 (EST)

Yeah, according to Transformers: Exodus, Jetfire is with the Autobots from the beginning. So, why is he a decepticon in the movie?
:Exodus is part of the [[Aligned continuity family]] while ROTF is part of the [[Live-action film series]] [[continuity family]]. There is no link between the Jetfires in these two pieces of fiction. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:46, 7 December 2011 (EST)

== More Detail on bethlehen pa shooting. ==

I just wanted to point out that the site the filming was done was the old Bethlehem Steel plant primary around the blast furnaces to provide scale for the robots size. you can actually not visit the site since it's now an sands hotel and Artsquest set up an concert and art center near the site.

== Lamppost ==

Mikela slammed into a lamppost to get rid of alice. Not a tree.

== Matrix 1999 reference ==

Is the interrogation scene of Sam by Megatron and Starscream at the foundry a reference to the Wachowski movie's interrogation scene of Neo ?

A powerful character, an authoritative figure played by Hugo Weaving, in grey, probes the protagonist
(the protagonist who will later turn out to have some destiny in ressurection and being of special status like Prime or being the one)
to get information about how much he knows of the Matrix and this kept-secret society that guards it. (the primes/those who got disillusioned about the virtual reality.)

And well, the two little metallic slimy monster insects with super slender tentacles who obey Hugo Weaving penetrate the wiggling protagonists, that was what set me off to draw the parallels.

--[[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]] ([[User talk:SnipinScientist|talk]]) 19:07, 16 December 2018 (EST)

Decepticon

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{{quote|'''''Decepticon''' (di-sep-ti-con) A member of a subversive sect or society. From the noun — 'deception'; one who deceives.|the [[New Cybertronic Dictograph]]}}

The '''Decepticons''' are one of the primary factions in the ''[[Transformer]]s'' mythos. They are typically concerned with such things as conquering [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], defeating the [[Autobot]]s, amassing large quantities of [[energon]], developing powerful weaponry, and beating people up. Not necessarily in that order.

Unlike the Autobots, whose leader is a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] bearing a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], the Decepticons are led by the [[Decepticon leader|most powerful]] of their ranks. This tends to cause some conflict, given how generally ''every'' Decepticon thinks that they're the most powerful. Also, the Decepticons are not exactly the most compassionate beings in the universe, but not all fight for greed. More than a few have a [[Scourge (Cybertron)|sense of honor]], while others believe that Cybertron would be better protected by [[Decepticon Empire|aggressive expansion]]. Ultimately, the Decepticons desire to protect their homeworld, even if it is at the expense of others. [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Usually]].

{{quote|The Decepticons are a malevolent race of robot warriors, brutal and merciless. The Decepticons are led by a single undeviating goal: total domination of the universe.|[[Narrator]]|[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]}}

==Generation 1==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[File:Thelaststand-prepare.jpg|left|upright=1.95|thumb|MUSTER THE GOOMBAS! HAND OUT THE DE-EVOLUTION GUNS! PREPARE FOR DESTINY!]]
The Decepticons emerged from the gladiatorial [[Games|State Games]], which caused [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s rise to public prominence - in the aftermath of the destructive Vos-Tarn War, Megatron was able to use his fame and charisma to unite both the survivors and the planet's malcontents into a new army. His plan was to turn Cybertron into a mobile cosmic dreadnought and conquer the galaxy. {{storylink|State Games}} The Decepticons developed new technology to allow them to transform into attack vehicles and weaponry, launching a devastating attack that killed billions and shook the planet from its orbit before [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] turned the tide.

Megatron, Shockwave and others were lost on Earth for four million years; as Optimus was too, the Autobots swiftly lost ground to Decepticon leaders [[Trannis]] and [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]]. Cybertron was devastated and conquered, causing the cream of the Decepticons to leave the burnt-out planet to form a [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] out in the stars, while Straxus threw all those he considered weak into the [[Smelting pool]]. The Empire would go on to slaughter and Cyberform planet after planet, their actions unknown on Cybertron.

Eventually the Earth-bound Decepticons would awaken in 1984, sparking off a new front in the war. After the presumed suicide of Megatron, an escalation in fighting would see Decepticon leadership fragment and change hands rapidly, with frequent clashes, plots and counter-plots between the primary leadership, namely [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], until most of them were killed in the [[Underbase]] conflict, leaving Scorponok the only surviving commander. A brief truce with the Autobots was held when [[Unicron]] attacked in 1991, but Scorponok was killed in the following conflict. Immediately after this, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] came to power. Charismatic and driven, Bludgeon turned the beaten Decepticons into a new army; after a defeat on [[Klo]], they regrouped and reorganised. ([[Another Time & Place|In one reality, they were immediately massacred afterward.]])

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====Earthforce====
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In the side-continuity of [[Earthforce]], while Unicron continued on to Cybertron, Megatron and Shockwave continued a Decepticon civil war on Earth with a small handful of troops - wasting most of their time trying to take each other out. Eventually Soundwave and Starscream overthrew them, uniting both factions into a stronger Decepticon force. The two former leaders attempted to regain their position but never appeared to succeed.

====Generation 2====
Bludgeon invaded Earth with the intention of capturing the Matrix and making a new generation of Decepticons, but Megatron returned, killed Bludgeon in one-on-one combat, and stole this plan. However, the threat of the Cybertronian Empire forced an alliance between the Autobots and Decepticons again.

====Classics====
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====Regeneration One====
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
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The Decepticons began life as a line of military hardware robots created by the [[Quintesson]]s, alongside the consumer goods robots that would become the Autobots. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} It is unknown exactly what role the military hardware robots played in the eventual rebellion of the robots against their creators; the only ones seen to participate in the conflict were the Autobots' ancestors, led by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|A-3]], but given their fighting ability, the proto-Decepticons seem like they would have made logical soldiers in the fight. {{storylink|Forever Is a Long Time Coming (episode)|Forever Is a Long Time Coming}}

Following the defeat of the Quintessons and their exile from Cybertron, a brief period of peace descended, before the base differences between the two breeds of robot led to the outbreak of conflict. Lusting for power, the Decepticons, as they now called themselves, rallied under [[Early Decepticon leader|a leader]] and began a war with the peaceful Autobots, who proved unable to match their inborn military skills. After the fall of several successive Autobot leaders, the heroic robots turned to stealth, and invented the art of [[transformation]]; with this edge, [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] defeated the Decepticons' leader, ending the war and ushering in the prosperous [[Golden Age]] of Cybertron. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}}
[[File:Masterplan2 earth germ.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|"Excuse me, do you have seating for 3?"]]
Over time, the defeated Decepticons married transformation technology with robot-mode flight powers, leading to the creation of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] around nine million years ago. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} Gathering like-minded warriors like the loyal [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]], the emotionless [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the young upstart [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], and brain-washing others into his service with the [[Robo-Smasher]], {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme (episode)|The Secret of Omega Supreme}} Megatron slew Sentinel Prime and reignited the war. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} Against the Autobots under the command of new leader [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], the protracted warfare ran for five million years, draining Cybertron dry of energy and forcing the Transformers to seek new power sources on other planets. When Optimus Prime's best and brightest departed on this quest aboard [[Ark (G1)|a spacecraft]], Megatron's elite followed them, and the battle that erupted led to a crash-landing on prehistoric Earth that entombed all the combatants in stasis for four million years. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

In 1984, a volcanic explosion led to the reactivation of the Transformers; the Decepticons were first to recover, and immediately set about plundering Earth's natural resources to build a [[Victory (G1)|space cruiser]] that would take them back to Cybertron. Sabotaged in mid-flight, the ship crashed into one of Earth's oceans, {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}} but the Decepticons survived and rebuilt the crippled craft to serve as their new [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|headquarters]] for the continuing conflict on the planet. A [[space bridge]] was established between Earth and Cybertron, and any resources the villains could purloin would be sent back to the dying planet to secure their stranglehold over it. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}}
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At some point over the next twenty years, the Decepticons focused their attentions away from Earth and managed to take complete control of Cybertron, forcing the Autobots to relocate to twin moonbases on Cybertron's two satellites, and to [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] on Earth. In 2005, learning that the Autobots planned a major strike to retake Cybertron, the Decepticons launched an [[Battle of Autobot City|attack]] on Autobot City, with disastrous consequences for the Autobots. The battle saw one of the Decepticons' long held dreams achieved in the death of Optimus Prime, but Megatron was damaged, and left to rot in deep space, along with several of his wounded followers. Found by the monster planet [[Unicron]], Megatron was reformatted him into [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]], and the others into [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and the [[Sweep]]s, in return for their servitude. Soon after, while Unicron was attacking the Decepticon-controlled Cybertron, Galvatron duelled with the new Autobot leader [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], who triumphed and hurled him into the void of space. Their world and their forces devastated and their leader gone, the Decepticons were easily routed by the Autobots, who forced them into exile on the burned-out world of [[Chaar]] while they retook and restored Cybertron. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{quote|Once the Decepticons held the quadrant through terror, now we scrap like [[Slaarg]]s over a few [[energon cube]]s.|[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]|[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1]]}}
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On Chaar, the Decepticons faced constant energy shortages and engaged in constant in-fighting over what little they did have. Determined to restore order, Cyclonus hatched a plan to locate the lost Galvatron, in hopes that he could lead the Decepticons to glory once more. Although they were successful, Galvatron proved to have been driven insane by his experiences, and while his return did herald the recommencement of hostilities with the Autobots, the Decepticons never quite recovered their old standing, continuing to operate on Chaar throughout 2006 and regularly entering into ill-fated alliances with the Quintessons. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness}}

Eventually, the Decepticons went into hiding following the resurrection of Optimus Prime. When they returned, it was in force, launching an attack on Autobot City in order to steal the key to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]] on Cybertron, intending to use the chamber to overload the sun and destroy Earth and Cybertron together. The battle for the key carried several of their number to the planet [[Nebulos]], where they became [[binary bonding|binary bonded]] to the planet's evil rulers, the [[Hive (G1)|Hive]], as [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster]]s. They returned with the key to Cybertron, but Autobot intervention caused the energy of the chamber to backfire on them, hurling their battlestation [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], with the amassed forces of the Decepticons aboard, off into the far reaches of the universe. {{storylink|The Rebirth}}

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====Japanese cartoon continuity====

{{note|In Japanese cartoon continuity, the events of "The Rebirth" do not occur, and Headmasters and Targetmasters have a different origin.}}
[[File:FourWarriors Decepticon Headmasters flaming balls.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|There were more burning rocks in the Japanese continuity.]]
Following the return of Optimus Prime, the Decepticons consolidated their power base by heavily fortifying Chaar and turning it into an actual, functional base of operations. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Their ranks were swelled with the addition of the Decepticon Headmasters—Cybertronians who had fled their homeworld millions of years before and taken up residence on the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], but who had been exiled by the local leader [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] for an attempted coup. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Headmaster commander [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] coveted leadership of the Decepticons for himself, and finally obtained it when the Autobot Headmasters entombed Galvatron in an iceberg. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} Under Scorponok's leadership, the Decepticons nearly succeeded in destroying the Earth with [[crysmagnetal]] and [[plasma energy]], but upon the destruction of Scorponok's [[Transtector]], the ultimately elected to finally withdraw from Earth once and for all. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}
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The Decepticons returned to Chaar, and over the next few years, fought the Autobots on [[Athenia]] in a series of space-based exchanges that became known as the [[Master Wars]]. Circumstances changed when the mysterious alien [[Devil Z]] was able to brainwash Scorponok, placing him and by extension, the entire Decepticon army, under his command. {{storylink|Master File No, 1}} While Scorponok, now known as "BlackZarak", continued to lead the Decepticons' space based forces, a small group of [[Pretender]]s operating under Devil Z's direct command on Earth furthered the evil alien's attempts to fuse human and Transformer life to create the ultimate lifeform by bringing about the rise of the [[Headmaster Junior]]s and the [[Godmaster]]s. {{storylink|Birth! Headmaster Jrs}} {{storylink|Super Warriors - The Godmaster Brothers}} A group of Autobot Pretenders worked to counter his schemes by doing the same, and the repeated failure of his human Transformers to triumph over their Autobot counterparts led Devil Z to conclude that he had been incorrect, and that humanity was of no use to him. He transformed the Headmaster Jr and Godmasters into full robotic lifeforms, but soon after, he and BlackZarak were destroyed by the Autobot leader [[Ginrai]], and the Decepticons fled the Earth once more. {{storylink|A Battle... and Then...}}
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Leadership was briefly taken up by [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], but by the year 2025, the Decepticon army was reorganized under the new Emperor of Destruction, [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], and began attacking numerous different planets all across the galaxy in pursuit of a world they could take for their own. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}} Deathsaurus led the [[Breastforce]] and [[Dinoforce]] in attack on Earth, seizing enough energy to reactive his [[Planet-Destroying Fortress]], but he was stopped by the new Autobot [[Supreme Commander]], [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}
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Deathsaurus' defeat marked a decline in Decepticon activity, but soon a more supernatural force seized command: [[Violen Jiger]], a being made up of the spirits of many defeated Decepticons, rallied together [[Nine Great Demon Generals]] from throughout Decepticon history to capture for him the Autobots' new [[Energon Z]], and the life-giving [[Zodiac]], which he would combine to create a "[[Decepticon Zone]]" from which he could conquer the universe. His plans were stopped by new Autobot leader [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]], {{storylink|Transformers: Zone (franchise)|Zone}} and the Zodiac was instead used to bring Optimus Prime back to life. This stood in the way of the plans of the mysterious alien [[Dark Nova]], so he used his powers to resurrect Galvatron from his Arctic tomb and transform him into Super Megatron. The Decepticon army was virtually non-existent under Dark Nova; Super Megatron had no actual Decepticon troops at his command, merely Dark Nova's [[Novaroid]] and [[Galaman]] warriors, though they did bear the Decepticon insignia. Dark Nova later upgraded Super Megatron into Ultra Megatron, then merged with him to become "Star Giant", but was destroyed by the resurrected Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: Return of Convoy (franchise)|Return of Convoy}}

By the year 2035, Decepticon leadership had been taken up by the enigmatic [[Scrash (OC)|Scrash]], and fighting was primarily occurring in outer space once again. The development of [[Power Core Combination]] by the Autobots and their human allies on Earth drew Scrash's attention back to the planet, and he sent [[Battle Gaia (OC)|Battle Gaia]] and the [[Jet Corps]] to create distractions while a team of Decepticons reformatted to be able to take control of the Autobots' new inventions were sent to steal the combiner tech. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (franchise)|Operation Combination}} Some reports suggest that when his plans were foiled, Scrash himself made another attack on the planet along with his warriors [[Flashwing]], [[Deathplay]], [[Darkfly]] and [[Sharpedge]] which also met with failure. {{storylink|Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)#After_2025|2007 timeline}} [[File:G2 Humans killed Megatron's friend.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|There were also more gigantic plastic army men in the Japanese continuity.]] Following this, Megatron retook command of the Decepticons, but with his damaged sanity circuits repaired, he abandoned his evil ways and united the Decepticons with the Autobots as the [[Cybertron Alliance]]. This was not to last, unfortunately, when a misunderstanding led a human military unit to kill [[Megatron's dead friend|a Decepticon]], prompting Megatron to begin the war all over again. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|Autobots vs. Decepticons: Combat Secrets}}

Defeated by Optimus Prime in a duel in the [[Mirtonian constellation]], the badly wounded Megatron disappeared with the Decepticons into the far reaches of the universe, and the war appeared to be over once more. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|The Autobots Triumph in the Battle of Good Vs. Evil!}} Alas, it was not to be so, as a [[Galvatron II|parallel version of Galvatron from an alternate dimension]] appeared and took control of the Decepticon army, renewing hostilities {{storylink|Hybrid Style Convoy Black Version}} and bolstering their forces with the addition of biomechanically-engineered monsters. {{storylink|MP-1B Cybertron Commander / Convoy Black Ver.}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:DeceptLitho.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|"My Liege, when did you get that sw—" "CAN'T HEAR YOU, FANWANKING"]]
The Decepticons arose out of the [[Gladiatorial combat|underground fights]] that Megatron once partook in. After discovering certain secrets about Cybertron's origin, including massive [[planetary engine]]s, Megatron began using the games to recruit combatants. For nearly half a million years, they grew in numbers and trained, until they rebelled against the [[Council of Ancients]] and took [[Kaon]] by force.

While the war raged on, the Constructicons repaired the engines and introduced a mecha-forming process, but what they really needed was a power source. Megatron became convinced that he could find one powerful enough within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], which was in the possession of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. However, when Megatron finally killed the Prime, he discovered that it was not within him. Soon after, Optronix became Optimus Prime, and Megatron initiated a plan: an assassination team under Communications Officer [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] would elimate the Prime and claim the Matrix, while Military Operations Commander [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] would lay siege to Iacon, preventing the Autobots from coming to Prime's rescue.

However, Megatron made two mistakes: he informed Air Commander [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] of his intentions, and he underestimated Optimus Prime. The Prime managed to erase some of Megatron's memories of what he discovered, while Starscream activated the mechaforming process using energy from the planetary engines. The engines were destroyed before the process was complete, ruining both. {{storylink|Transformers: The War Within|The War Within}}

After Megatron disappeared with Optimus Prime in a space bridge test, Shockwave became Decepticon leader, though Starscream and High Auditor [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] broke off with their own splinter factions shortly afterwards. The Decepticons allied with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s Autobots and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s [[Lightning Strike Coalition]] (an Autobot splinter group), to stop the machinations of [[The Fallen]]. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}} Several thousand years later, Shockwave was prepared to sign a peace treaty with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], who had become Autobot leader, the LSC, and Ratbat's [[Ultracon]]. However, Megatron returned with the [[Air Warrior|Aerospace Extermination Squadron]], an army of [[Quintesson]] created [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] drones, whose abilities allowed the Decepticons to fully conquer Cybertron and enslave the Autobots. The Decepticons' control over Cybertron was ended when Optimus Prime returned to Cybertron and the Air Warriors were defeated. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Age of Wrath|War Within: The Age of Wrath}}

When Megatron disappeared along with the ''Nemesis'' crew, Shockwave again emerged as Decepticon leader, this time as head of a triumvirate including Ratbat and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. With [[energon]] becoming scarce, Shockwave agreed to work with Ultra Magnus and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] in the creation of the [[Micromaster]]s, Transformers who were downsized for better fuel efficiency. Shockwave suffered a rebellion when [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]] overthrew him, using Shockwave's severed head as a tool. {{storylink|Transformers: Micromasters}} However, all Transformers on Cybertron entered [[stasis lock]] when the [[Great Shutdown]] occurred.

Around 1,000 B.C.E., Shockwave was reactivated by Scourge, and then defeated the Unicronian Transformer. Studying Scourge and discovering some of the secrets Megatron had learned, Shockwave made peace with the Autobots, installing himself as Head of State with an [[Autobot High Council]] as a legislature, while Ultra Magnus became his senior security officer. However, the High Councillors were unsuited for peace time government, and gradually gave Shockwave more and more power... which is exactly what he had planned.

On Earth, the ''Nemesis'' crew was reawakened in 1984. Cut off from Cybertron, the Decepticons concluded that they had no other choice but to conquer the planet. Megatron soon learned that others had come looking for them, including [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dynobots]]. The Decepticons captured Jetfire and the Dinobots except Grimlock, and used the hostage situation to force Grimlock to serve the Decepticons. Additionally, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] located Earth and served under Megatron. In 1998, the Autobots allied with humanity to defeat the Decepticons. They were to be returned to Cybertron in the ''[[Ark II]]'', but Shockwave, through a human intermediary, sabotaged the ''Ark II'', causing the ship to crash and send the Transformers aboard into stasis lock.

Renegade members of the [[United States military]] managed to capture the Decepticons and a number of Autobots, intending to use them as instruments of war, but [[Lazarus (G1)|Adam Rook]] later stole them and set himself up as an arms dealer. Unfortunately, Megatron overwhelmed the programming that kept him a prisoner, and freed the other Decepticons. Megatron then intended to unleash a technovirus on Earth, but the Autobots defeated him. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}

A year later, Shockwave arrived to tie up loose ends, quickly capturing Megatron and the ''Nemesis'' crew. Starscream ejected Megatron out of the ship carrying them to Cybertron, leaving him to die in space. The ''Nemesis'' crew were granted amnesty, but Starscream quickly recruited them into going back to Earth to conquer the planet, taking the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] with them. Shockwave was finally overthrown when Optimus Prime united the Autobot resistance groups, but he escaped with a small number of troops. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

Meanwhile, Megatron was rescued by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], who repaired his memory loss. Using some recovered Air Warriors, Megatron located the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], who were used to take control of Shockwave's small army. On Earth, Starscream's failures during [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]'s rampage were reason enough to convince the ''Nemesis'' crew to mutiny against Starscream in Megatron's favor. With two combiner teams, an army of Seekers, Soundwave's cassettes, and knowledge of Earth's connection to Cybertron, Megatron prepared to lead the Decepticons on the conquests of Earth and Cybertron {{storylink|Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) |G1 ongoing}}...

{{note|...At which point Dreamwave went bankrupt. Damn.}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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During the reign of [[Nominus Prime]], Cybertronian civilization was stratified by a [[Functionism|Functionist]] society that equated one's worth as an individual with the usefulness and uniqueness of one's altmode. Among the impoverished lower classes was a young, idealist miner named [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] who sought to peacefully end Functionism as an institution. His [[After the Ark: Nominus Prime and the Illusion of Progress|treatise]] gathered momentum among Cybertron's working class,{{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} but the Decepticon movement didn't come about until later, when an embittered and disillusioned Megatron began circulating more radical and violent samizdat writings. Indeed, the name Decepticon was taken from one of Megatron's favorite rallying cries: "You are being deceived." They soon began scaring people in high society. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc}}

They really came into their own when Megatron led an uprising in Kaon, taking the city and killing a Prime. {{storylink|The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin}} The Decepticons soon began spreading across the planet, recruiting new people and carrying out terrorist strikes in advance of their main assaults. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}} Eventually they overthrew the Senate and yet another Prime, but by then it was clear they were going to install a brutal dictatorship of their own. {{storylink|Overthrown}} The Autobots of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] rose up against them and war began. {{storylink|Rise}}

The war they started proved ''too'' destructive for Cybertron to handle, and the Decepticons had to abandon it after the disastrous [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] incident. {{storylink|The Transformers: Stormbringer |Stormbringer}}

The Decepticons are spread across known space, following a strict [[Infiltration protocol]] to conquer worlds. Disguising themselves, the infiltration unit gathers intelligence and seeds [[Facsimile construct|facsimiles]] in key strategic places; Phase Two is to use their facsimiles to inflame global tensions and watch the locals to devastate themselves. By Phase Five, their base is in [[Infiltration protocol|Siege Mode]] and Phase 6 has open war on a burnt-out world. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration}} {{storylink|The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation}} In extreme circumstances, when they ''really'' want a world destroyed, they'll send in a [[Phase Sixer]] like [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]].

The Decepticon army is highly specialised: there's infiltration units for, er, infiltration; a [[Decepticon Secret Service]] handling spying and tech acquisitions {{storylink|Spotlight: Hot Rod}}; penal colonies like [[Styx]]; and Tactical Assault Units like the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] who carry out direct action.

This all got thrown out of the window in the early 21st Century, however, when it appeared the Decepticons had won. Whoops, they hadn't. Earth was lost, Megatron was defeated, and Starscream took control through a charade of wielding the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}} Some Decepticons were left behind on Earth while Starscream led the rest to a barren asteroid, where they accomplished nothing for three years until Megatron finally returned and took back his rightful position. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon}}

Later, Megatron allowed himself to be captured and brought to a mostly restored Cybertron, where he used a [[space bridge]] built into his body to summon the Decepticon army to him. Then they were brainwashed by [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] and/or [[D-Void]] into combining with the [[Sweep]]s to form a "[[Deceptigod]]". {{storylink|Chaos Part Three: Kings}} Once the monster was defeated, the weakened Decepticons were all captured by the Autobots. They were imprisoned and kept under control using [[inhibitor/deterrence chip]]s in their heads, and the war was considered over. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

The Decepticons were released and eventually, in the interests of peace, the chips were deactivated. An uneasy peace exists between Decepticon, Autobots, and the [[NAIL|returning neutrals]], with Starscream rising to power as the Decepticon spokesman (after arranging the death of their previous spokesman, Ratbat, before he could start another war). {{storylink|The World & Everything in It}} {{storylink|A Better Tomorrow}} Out in space, however, the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] refused to accept the war was over and continued hunting down and murdering anyone on their 'list'. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}

Following the [[Dark Cybertron]] crisis, Megatron allowed himself to be put on trial on [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]], having supposedly abandoned the Decepticon cause.{{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Thanks to a technicality in the Luna 2 legal system, Megatron was allowed to join the ''[[Lost Light]]'' crew in its quest for the [[Knights of Cybertron]], postponing his ultimate verdict until the Knights could judge him in person. However, in exchange for his continued freedom, Megatron was forced to recite a statement declaring his renouncement of all Decepticon ideals and ordering all remaining Decepticon forces to stand down and do the same. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} In aftermath of Megatron's defection [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] took command of the Decepticons. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}} Galvatron led them to Earth where they forged an alliance with the EDC. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|Hello Cruel World}} According to Ravage, however, Galvatron would be instantly abandoned if Megatron gave the word {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}

==Beast Era==
In ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' continuity, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] were the descendants of the Decepticons and fought with the same aggression and ideas of conquest. They faced the [[Maximal]]s in the same way their ancestors had fought the [[Autobot]]s.

In the aftermath of the conflict, both sides signed the [[Pax Cybertronia]], which eventually led to peace, but left the Decepticons in a second class position.

==2001 ''Robots in Disguise''==
In the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]], the Decepticons were a brand new faction that came into being during the events of the story. Because there were so few Decepticons (only six or seven), and because they were a subset of the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] antagonists, they can almost be viewed as a [[subgroup]] rather than a proper faction. The Decepticons were created on Earth when [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s forces captured a set of [[stasis pod]]s from an ancient Transformer spaceship that had been found on [[Earth]], leading to the birth of the [[Commando (RID)|Commandos]] and [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]]. The toy version of [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was only mentioned once in the cartoon series.

In the Japanese version of ''Robots in Disguise'', ''Car Robots'', the Decepticons were known as Combatrons. This is the same name by which the [[Combaticon (G1)|G1 Combaticons]] were called in Japan.

For the [[Hasbro]] toy line, several other non-show Decepticons were added to the ranks to help fill out the line. It is unknown how most of these actually fit into the story, though one of them, [[Axer (G1)|Axer]], is actually a dimension-hopper who arrived from [[Generation 1 continuity family|a Generation 1 universe]].

==Unicron Trilogy==
===Cartoon continuity===
====Armada====
The ''exact'' origins of the Decepticon faction are a bit muddled. It is widely assumed, though never directly confirmed, that the movement was founded by [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. Also, the enslavement of the power-enhancing [[Mini-Con]]s is considered to be the impetus to the Decepticons' rise to a massive multi-planet-spanning army, though at what point in the war this occurred is unclear; it's possible the Mini-Cons' arrival was what gave Megatron the opportunity to rise to power, or that they arrived after the war had already begun.

Either way, the Mini-Cons fueled the war machine for centuries, and the war with the [[Autobot]]s soon spread from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to other worlds. The self-imposed exile of the Mini-Cons to an unknown destination was seen as a major setback for the Decepticons (and something of a pyrrhic victory for the Autobots), but despite this, the war continued, as both sides had amassed a large enough power base to continue on without the little buggers.

The Autobots and Decepticons seemed to fight to a stalemate, neither able to gain a distinct advantage over the other. When a signal reached Cybertron centuries later that the Mini-Cons had landed on [[Earth]], it seemed neither side was capable of sending a full force to retrieve them, despite the power they contained. Though the Decepticon force sent to Earth was small in numbers, it was far from insignificant; Megatron himself led the squad, backed by some of his most trusted warriors.

When Megatron returned to Cybertron, the overwhelming majority of the Mini-Cons were in the protective custody of the Autobots, but Megatron was unfazed; he had assembled the Mini-Cons required to make the three legendary weapons: the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]], [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] and [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]]. Bolstered by this new power and the apparent death of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], Megatron attempted to take Cybertron once and for all.

But Megatron's (now calling himself Galvatron) return to Cybertron was the beginning of the end of the Decepticon army. When [[Unicron]] revealed himself as a threat to both armies, fueled by the negative psychic energies from centuries of death and destruction, the two sides eventually joined together to beat back the planet-eater. Despite the truce, Galvatron and Prime engaged in a brutal duel on the surface of the weakened Unicron after the three legendary weapons had been removed from his core. Realizing their battle was keeping Unicron active, Galvatron sacrificed himself, and both Unicron and Galvatron disappeared into nothingness.

====Energon====
[[File:Energon Decepticon insignia.jpg|left|127px|thumb|Now available with added purple!]]
Galvatron's final orders to his troops still stood: work ''with'' the Autobots. The Decepticons maintained a degree of autonomy, still wearing the faction sigil and often taking military/defensive positions in the growing number of [[energon]]-mining colonies, but they were ultimately answerable to Optimus Prime and the Autobots. There were, of course, dissenters, most of whom were captured and imprisoned. For a decade, Autobot and Decepticon worked side-by-side in a somewhat stable truce.

Both sides found themselves the target of attacks from Unicron again; hordes of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon drones]], sent by [[Alpha Quintesson]] to steal energon ore with which to revive the now-shattered husk of Unicron. What the alien did not count on was that Galvatron's [[spark]] had survived within the remains, and was siphoning energon from Unicron's body. Soon the Decepticon leader revived himself in a new form,(calling himself Megatron again) drove off Alpha Quintesson, and along with an elite cadre of soldiers and a seemingly inexhaustible supply of mindless Terrorcon drones, began his ''new'' plans for conquest.

When news of Megatron's return reached Cybertron, hundreds of Decepticons rose up and rebelled, eager to get back to conquering. But having been joined to Unicron for so long apparently had given Megatron a taste of godhood; he had no more interest in amassing a galaxy-spanning army of troops. Countless Decepticons died in the resulting battles, with Megatron more than willing to sacrifice them without a thought to attain ultimate power for himself. As "[[the Powerlinx Battles]]" -as they came to be called- came to their climax, Megatron (calling himself Galvatron ''again'') found that his actions and thoughts were being influenced and controlled by the dark spark of Unicron. Unwilling to let Unicron stand in his way, Galvatron ultimately sacrificed himself (again) and seemingly destroyed Unicron's spark by plunging himself into a newly formed energon sun created by [[Primus]].

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====Cybertron====
What little remained of the once-mighty Decepticon army after [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Megatron's]] loss was at best a loose association of criminals, thugs, and lunatics, with no real political or military power to speak of. For a decade, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was once again at peace, with the population overwhelmingly [[Autobot]] or neutral. The Transformers had withdrawn from [[Earth]] and its other colonies to focus on revitalizing their homeworld after the devastation of the Powerlinx Battles. However, two great catastrophes shattered this peace; the energon sun collapsed in on itself, forming the powerful black hole known as the [[Unicron Singularity]], which threatened to devour Cybertron and, if left unchecked, the entire universe... and the return yet once again of Megatron, who had absorbed much of what remained of Unicron's power.

Megatron's goal of attaining godhood was now at hand. By obtaining the legendary [[Omega Lock]] and the four [[Cyber Planet Key]]s, Megatron intended to accelerate the growth of the black hole, consuming the universe in a vast sea of nothingness that only he would survive, then use his powers to re-create the universe in his image.

To this end, he had no need of an army. He gathered a small group of allies and lackeys to seek the items he needed, but they were nothing more than pawns to him, to be used and discarded at a whim.

The Decepticons briefly regained their status as a mass army of individuals when [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Starscream]], who had long suffered at Megatron's hands since the beginning of the Decepticons, made his own bid for ultimate power with the help of the [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]] agent [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]. Having sealed Megatron and his troops in a trap, Starscream freed hundreds of criminal Transformers who had been locked up on [[Earth]] for millennia, and formed his own globe-spanning army. The Decepticon "Monsters" were tasked with finding the Omega Lock and Earth's Cyber Planet Key, which they eventually brought to their leader. However, numerous Decepticons were killed in the battles with the Autobots, and it soon became apparent that Starscream, like Megatron before him, didn't care. Most of these criminals soon abandoned Starscream and went into hiding.

As for Megatron, he too had deserters among his own considerably-small ranks. Most notably, the powerful [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]], leader of the [[Animatron|Jungle Planet]] and the colossal [[Menasor (Cybertron)|Menasor]] from [[Gigantion]], both of whom eventually joined forces with their former enemies the Autobots.

This was not seen as a concern for Megatron, however, as by this time Starscream and his allies were seemingly destroyed on Gigantion, and Megatron (now calling himself "Galvatron" again) had the Omega Lock and all four Keys. What few Decepticons remained loyal to him were too stupid to see what Galvatron had planned, and made perfect distractions as he set his final plan in motion. If they weren't strong enough to survive the coming cataclysm, then so be it.

[[File:NewDecepticonArmy.jpg|thumb|The yutz, the ditz, the klutz, and the putz.]]
Ultimately, Galvatron's plan failed, and the Unicron Singularity was sealed. His remaining Decepticons quickly left him, realizing what was likely to have happened to them, and eventually joined the Autobots. After Galvatron's seemingly-final defeat and death in a one-on-one duel with [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron's]] moon, the Decepticons, not knowing when to quit, rose again, albeit in a rather pathetic fashion. Having cobbled together a rather rickety rocket, [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]], [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]] and [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] shanghaied the reluctant [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], who was ''really'' keen on being on the winning side for once, and flew off to parts unknown as the "[[New Decepticon Army]]".

They made it to [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] before the rocket crash-landed.

Meanwhile, the Autobot [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] reported form a deep-space recon mission that he thought he had picked up traces of Starscream, seemingly backed up by Sideways and [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]]. [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] and the former Decepticon [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] raced off to join Wing Saber and investigate...

===Comics continuity===
====Armada====
Founded by Megatron, the exact number of the original Decepticons is unknown. Using the Mini-Cons as weapons, they were able to conquer Cybertron and force the Autobots underground. Eventually they were beaten due to the arrival of Unicron: his heralds slaughtered the entire Decepticon base on Cybertron, and the Chaos-Bringer's arrival forced them to join forces with the Autobots. With Megatron shot dead during the Unicron battle, the peace held for a period of years.

==Live-action ''Transformers'' movies continuity==
[[File:Defiance3 wearenowDECEPTICONS.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|LATER: Megatron realizes he blew his entire budget on the giant rotating wall symbol.]]

The Decepticons are the Transformers who sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Lord High Protector Megatron]] and attempted to seize the [[AllSpark]]. Their numbers ranged from the [[Starscream (Movie)|treacherous]], the [[Blackout (Movie)|fanatical]], the [[Brawl (Movie)|violent]], and the [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|treacherous fanatically violent]] to the [[Frenzy (Movie)|spastic]].

The origins of these Decepticons began when a being known as [[The Fallen]] turned on his [[Dynasty of Primes|brother Primes]] in an attempt to seize power at the cost of [[human|humanity's]] existence. One account has it that the Fallen gathered a small army of [[Constructicon (ROTF)|construction drones]] to assist him and named them Decepticons. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3}} Either way, he would become known as the ''first'' Decepticon and would go on to become the [[Palpatine|Sidious]] to Megatron's [[Darth Vader|Vader]] {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}, tempting the latent aggressive edge in the Protector. Filled with dreams of power and paranoia of losing that power, Megatron reformed the Cybertron defense force into a massive engine of war, ready to wipe out entire alien species who would dare challenge them. When science leader [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] opposition became known, Megatron branded them traitors and declared his followers to be the Decepticons. Soon after, The Fallen commanded Megatron to build the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'', a ship that would carry his sarcophagus and Decepticon soldiers in their search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] left on Earth. Megatron was commanded to remain on Cybertron, so [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] commanded the expedition. Most of the Decepticons left Cybertron, leaving Megatron with a reduced, but still potent, army. {{Storylink|Transformers: Defiance|Defiance}}

War devastated Cybertron. While the Decepticons were heavily reliant on drone units to bolster their forces and were forced to automate many of their outposts, the risk was still too high that they might claim the AllSpark, {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 1|Prelude: Optimus Prime}} {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 5|Lost In Space 3: Ironhide}} and Optimus Prime made the desperate decision to launch the AllSpark into deep space. Megatron obsessively followed after it, and disappeared. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] took over leadership, and began a search for Megatron and the AllSpark. After a while, Starscream began to focus more on the AllSpark, hoping Megatron would remain lost, something the other Decepticons began to suspect. {{storylink|Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday|Ghosts of Yesterday}}

In 2003, Starscream's retrieval team made their way to [[Mars (planet)|Mars]], destroyed the [[Beagle 2 Rover]] and making their way to Earth. In 2007, the Decepticons began to make their presence known, with [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] destroying [[SOCCENT Forward Operations Base]] in [[Qatar]], searching for information on Megatron and the AllSpark. A few days later, [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] hacked [[Air Force One]]'s computers. Although he was unable to find out the truth about [[Sector Seven]], he avoided detection and managed to get a clue in [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]], whose ancestor [[Archibald Witwicky]] had discovered Megatron a century earlier. His glasses had been marked with coordinates to the AllSpark's location, so [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and Frenzy attempted to confront the boy. Although they were defeated by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and [[Mikaela Banes]], Frenzy hid in Mikaela's purse, and accompanied them to [[Hoover Dam]], where Megatron and the AllSpark were hidden. As Starscream ordered the Decepticons to mobilize, Frenzy shut down the temperature controls while Starscream destroyed the external generators. Megatron was freed, but Bumblebee took the Cube with a group of survivors from Blackout's attack to Mission City, meeting with Optimus Prime's Autobots along the way. In the Battle of Mission City, Megatron and most of the Decepticons were killed and the AllSpark believed destroyed. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}

Starscream, however, survived, and stole Frenzy's remains to access whatever information the humans had on the AllSpark to build [[Replica AllSpark|his own AllSpark]]. Returning to Cybertron, Starscream proclaimed himself [[Decepticon leader]] and began building the replica. One month later, the replica was ready, but it didn't work properly and [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] made a coup attempt. Starscream barely survived and made his way back to Mars, questioning his purpose, when he received word that the Autobots would be helping the humans destroy Megatron's remains. Hoping to destroy Prime, Megatron, and the traitor [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] all at once, Starscream returned to Earth. Although he managed to destroy Wreckage, Prime had already left with Megatron's body. Just as he defeated Bumblebee, Starscream received word from Soundwave, who had brought the ''Nemesis'' to Earth's solar system. After meeting up with Soundwave, Starscream explained the situation, and returned to the ''Nemesis'' to awaken the remaining Decepticons and oversee the spawning of more [[hatchling]]s while Soundwave lead a scout team to Earth. {{storylink|Transformers: The Reign of Starscream|The Reign of Starscream}} {{storylink|Transformers: Alliance}}

[[File:ROTF Fallen message.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|The Fallen performs what may be the greatest [[Rick Astley|Rick roll]] in history.]]
Over the next two years, the Decepticons searched for the [[Tomb of the Primes]], which housed the Matrix needed to activate the solar harvester. In 2009, Soundwave discovered Megatron's resting place in the [[Laurentian Abyss]] and the presence of an AllSpark shard on [[Diego Garcia]]. Dispatching [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] and the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s, the Decepticons managed to restore Megatron's [[Spark]] and bring him back to life. Returning to the Decepticon flagship, the ''Nemesis'', Megatron learned from the Fallen that the AllSpark's knowledge was now within Sam Witwicky's mind, who had destroyed the Cube when he killed Megatron. Further commanded to kill Optimus Prime, Megatron captured the boy. Although the boy escaped, Megatron, Starscream and Grindor battled Optimus, and Megatron eventually managed to kill the last Prime. Megatron then decided that a show of force was needed to compel the humans to turn Sam over to them. The Fallen lead Decepticon protoforms to Earth and then broadcast a message demanding the humans turn over Sam. Sam was eventually found in [[Egypt]], where the harvester was hidden under a pyramid. In Egypt, a battle took place around the pyramids. Although the Fallen managed to reclaim the Matrix, it had already been used to resurrect Optimus, who was then made more powerful by being fused with Jetfire, a defected Decepticon. Optimus Prime then destroyed the harvester and confronted the Fallen. After a fierce fight, the Fallen was finally killed by Optimus. Seeing his master's demise, Megatron, who had been severely injured during the battle, retreated with Starscream, vowing revenge. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

[[File:DOTM-Moonspacebridge.jpg|upright=1.67|right|thumb|Fly me to the Earth.]]
After three years of relative quiet, the Decepticons returned to NEST's radar when they enacted a scheme decades in the making, luring Optimus to the crashed ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'' on the [[Moon]]. Optimus revived [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]], who soon revealed that he had joined up with Megatron to restore Cybertron. Sentinel activated his space bridge, bringing forth an army of Decepticons who had hidden on the Moon. Sentinel issued an ultimatum to humanity: deport the Autobots from Earth or be destroyed. Humanity complied and the Autobots left in their spacecraft, but Starscream destroyed the ship once their human operative [[Dylan Gould]] learned they would leave without a fight. The Decepticons then stormed Chicago, slaughtering thousands of humans and made the city into a fortress impenetrable to the human military. Decepticons scattered across the globe to get Sentinel Prime's [[pillar]]s in place, so that they could create a space bridge large enough to bring Cybertron to Earth, enslaving humanity to reconstruct their home.

However, the Autobots had survived the destruction of their ship, foreseeing the Decepticons' treachery, and with the help of Sam Witwicky and a small crew of human allies, began a great battle to destroy Sentinel's space bridge. In the ensuing battle, the majority of the Decepticons' chain of command was killed off before the Autobots took the fight to Sentinel once the control pillar was temporarily disabled. After a brief duel, Sentinel ordered the Decepticons' entire [[Orbital Assault Carrier]] fleet to attack Optimus. With Sentinel battling the majority of the Autobots, the OAC's attacking Optimus, and the [[Wrecker]]s engaging the incoming terrestrial Decepticons, Gould was left to reactivate the control pillar. Though he succeeded, he was killed by Sam, and the pillar was destroyed, taking Cybertron, the Decepticons' remaining air force, and the space bridge with it. Sentinel attempted to escape, but was intercepted by Optimus. Though Sentinel managed to defeat Optimus, he was attacked and grievously wounded by Megatron, who sought to regain the power he had lost in the past few years. Megatron then attempted to deceive Optimus into thinking that he wanted peace, but Optimus saw through the ruse and seemingly killed the tyrant once and for all. Sentinel Prime was then executed by Optimus. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

Unfortunately, this Autobot victory was quickly negated when [[Harold Attinger]] rallied [[Cemetery Wind]], a secret [[CIA]] cabal who began hunting down all Autobots and Decepticons left around the globe, with the help of [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] the bounty hunter. Five years later, less than a dozen Transformers from either faction had survived the hunt. Though both factions were being slaughtered, Attinger claimed he was only hunting Decepticons, and their remains were sent to [[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated]] to be melted down to be made into new Transformers remote-controlled by humans. Megatron's head was recovered from Chicago, but no one except [[Brains]] discovered that the Decepticon leader had survived, and was biding his time by secretly worming his way into KSI's military prototype, [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]]. Megatron also gave his new body operational control of the other fifty drones KSI had built. This was all in order to obtain the [[Seed]] that Lockdown would eventually pay Attinger and KSI with in exchange for help in apprehending Optimus Prime, so that Megatron could cyberform a large city to announce his return and build a massive army.

[[File:AOE-Climb.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|left|HE STOLE MY LINE!!!]]
Optimus only became aware of Galvatron's true nature after a lengthy battle with the drone, and passed the knowledge on to his human ally [[Cade Yeager]]. Yeager tried to warn [[Joshua Joyce]] of Galvatron's plot regarding the Seed, but it was too late, and Galvatron rebelled, christening the drones he took control of Decepticons. The Autobots came to rescue Joyce and the Seed in Hong Kong, but Galvatron set his army upon them, sparking a large battle. [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]] and Bumblebee were nearly overwhelmed by the Decepticons until Optimus arrived with the [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobots]], decimating the majority of them. The last few Decepticons were killed when Optimus detonated one of Lockdown's grenades. Galvatron, having escaped the battle when the Dinobots arrived, took off for parts unknown, his plans temporarily stymied.
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[[File:Titan23 decepticonsmassing.JPG|upright=1.4|thumb|Company photo day.]]
The Decepticons are, in general, less human in appearance than the Autobots in the movie, resembling carnivorous mammals, birds, insects or the Decepticon insignia itself (possibly to frighten the [[Human|insects]]). What is also most noticeable about the Decepticons in the movie franchise is that they've actually been designed to resemble the insignia of their faction, most notably Megatron, Blackout, Barricade, and the Fallen; the insignia is in fact based on the Fallen's ugly mug. {{storylink|Transformers: Defiance|Defiance}}

{{note|In a departure from previous Transformers incarnations, Japan used the name "Decepticons" for this franchise, rather than "Destrons".<ref>[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/movie/decepticons.html Movie Decepticons toy listing on Takaratomy.com]</ref>}}

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==Animated==
Around 1 billion years ago, the [[Destron (Animated)|Destrons]] emerged as a new faction on the Protectobot governed Cybertron. Led by [[Devron (Animated)|Devron]], the [[Third Cybertronian War]] was fought between the Destrons and the Protectobots (who were led by the new leader [[Nova Magnus]]). ''The Destrons emerged victorious, though many Cybertronian records were forever lost due to the [[Great Purge]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

The Decepticons came to prominence as a sub-faction of the Destrons around 70 million years ago. They advocated the use of the AllSpark to bring Cybertron itself to life, that it might serve as a cosmic juggernaut that would allow the Transformers to return to the era of expansion and colonization of other worlds they had enjoyed nearly 700 million years beforehand. When the Decepticon leader [[Megazarak (Animated)|Megazarak]] was ousted by charismatic rhetorician named [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], tensions finally exploded, and the Autobots and Decepticons went to [[Great War (Animated)|war]] for possession of the AllSpark.

After something in the vicinity of six million years of civil war, things reached a crisis point when the Decepticons began a strategic bombing campaign on Cybertron, demanding the AllSpark be turned over in exchange for a cessation of hostilities. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}} Rather than give in to Megatron's demands, the Autobots instead sought to put the AllSpark beyond any Cybertronian's reach, launching it randomly through a [[space bridge]] to some distant corner of the galaxy, where it was hoped it would never be found. {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}

4 million stellar cycles ago, the Autobots and Decepticons battled each other in what is now known as The Great War. The Autobots pulled a victory only due to their exclusive access to [[space bridge]]s and their decision to send the [[AllSpark]] into deep space. Defeated, the Decepticons dispersed, and, according to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], the only sight of them would be an occasional scout ship. In fact, they had been missing for so long, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] believed a Decepticon presence was a thing of the past. This was quickly reassessed upon encountering [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron's]] crew. In his final battle against Optimus, Megatron was taken back to Cybertron, along with [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] and [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]], for imprisonment. The rest are still at large, except Starscream, who died when his AllSpark fragment was removed.

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==Shattered Glass==
[[File:Decepticon Shattered Glass.png|thumb|Decepticons wage their battles to destroy...]]
{{quote|Your tyranny ends here, Prime! Cybertronians will once again know the freedom which is their right!|Megatron|"[[Shattered Glass]]"}}
In this universe, the Decepticons are the good guys and a resistance group, intended to overthrow Autobot tyranny and their dastardly leader, [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]. Led by the heroic [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], the 'Cons want to liberate Cybertron and preserve freedom and life across the galaxy, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|no matter the cost]]. But if they fail to stop the Autobots, not only will the Autobots conquer [[Earth]], they will also enslave the universe and all will be lost. {{storylink|Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass}}

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==Aligned==
{{bigquote|Sometimes deception is necessary, when those who should listen to the truth will not, and will only understand once they have been lied to and forced to see their own lies.|[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]].}}

[[File:Megatroncamehome.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Breakdown! Assume the footrest position! Soundwave! Log into my Netflix! Knock Out, you... erm. Go make some popcorn or something."]]
The Decepticons originated from those in the [[caste system|lower castes]] of Cybertronian society in the [[Badlands (Cybertron)|Badlands]]. Megatron, a gladiator who seized control of all the gladiatorial pits and assumed the name of The Fallen, began preaching to the dispossessed on the Grid. He allowed them to bomb Cybertron and throw their society into chaos, for he rightly believed if he denied any connection to their extremist behavior, it would elevate him in the eyes of the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. Even the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] kidnapped [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] for him. When the Council questioned Megatron about the movement's name, he denied he had heard of it, though he also accepted it for reasons outlined above.

When Halogen appointed Orion the new Prime, Megatron declared his Decepticons would continue to fight for freedom. During the war they conquered eighty-five percent of the planet, as well as occupying [[Moonbase One|Moon Base One]] and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station, before poisoning the [[core]] itself with [[Dark Energon]]. When the Autobots left aboard the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', Trypticon transformed into the ''Nemesis'' and followed them with Megatron, Starscream, [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] and [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] into unknown space, while [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] took control of the Cybertronian Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===Prime===
Eons later, Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] were based on [[Earth]], with a mass-produced [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]] army. During a three year lull, Starscream was ordered to build a [[space bridge]] and to mine more Energon. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)}} Megatron returned, but not with the army Starscream had hoped for. Instead he tried to raise an army of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]] [[zombie]]s to eradicate humanity, but failed and perished in a space bridge implosion, leaving Starscream in command once more. {{storylink|Darkness Rising}} It emerged he survived, and he was retrieved and placed in sickbay. {{storylink|Masters & Students}} Meanwhile, Starscream and Soundwave waited for opportunities to pounce on [[Team Prime]] with their Vehicons. {{storylink|Con Job}} {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}
[[File:DeusExMachina-fourcons.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Starscream: "We're gonna go out there and catch those museum thieves red-handed!" Breakdown: "What color are their hands now?"]]

Megatron eventually returned to life, nearly killing Starscream for his part in his near-death in the space bridge explosion. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}{{storylink|Out of His Head}}{{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}} Despite his brush with death, Starscream continued to secretly operate against Megatron {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}, which came to a grinding halt when Megatron forced him to beg for his life in an abandoned Energon mine. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Finding neither respect from Megatron following this incident nor mercy from the [[Arcee (WFC)|Autobots]], as well as seemingly being replaced by former rogue [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]], Starscream abandoned the Decepticons, becoming neutral, and leaving Airachnid to take his place. {{storylink|Partners}}

Seeking to attain more Dark Energon to coincide with a prophecy that he interpreted as his own destiny in the [[Covenant of Primus]], Megatron raced to complete a second space bridge. Optimus Prime sought to stop this plot by finally ending the Decepticon leader's life{{storylink|One Shall Fall}}, but a larger problem became apparent. Following an explosion of Dark Energon from a volcano, it was surmised that [[Unicron]] was awakening at the core of Earth. Rejected from Unicron's service, {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}Megatron formed a shaky alliance with Optimus {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}} to defeat Unicron. During this time, acting Decepticon leader Airachnid attempted to abandon Megatron to Unicron's wrath, but following a humiliating defeat at the hands of Soundwave, relinquished command to the communications officer. With the power of the Matrix of Leadership, Optimus was able to defeat Unicron. However, Optimus' surrender of the Matrix's power also lost him his memories of being a Prime, and he took upon his old 'Orion Pax' persona. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} Megatron took advantage of Orion's amnesia, setting him to work on [[Project Iacon]], to find various relics from Cybertron hidden on Earth. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} Eventually, however, the Autobots were successful in restoring Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, halting work on the project {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}.

Former Seeker captain [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] arrived on Earth {{storylink|Loose Cannons}}, and was promoted to second in command following Airachnid's departure and murder of Breakdown (whose remains were recovered by human terrorist organization MECH). {{storylink|Crossfire}} Airachnid later sent her armada of [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticons]] to kill Megatron, but following her defeat at the hands of Arcee, the Insecticons were freed from her control and then integrated into Megatron's forces. However, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead's]] actions caused the ''Nemesis'' to crash on Earth, {{storylink|Armada (episode)}} prompting Megatron to use Dark Energon to repair the ship. Unexpectedly, the Dark Energon enhanced Nemesis gained sentience, and disabled the Decepticons and worked to complete Project Iacon and collect the relics around the world. Through the efforts of [[Jack Darby (Prime)|the]] [[William Fowler|Autobots]] [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|human]] [[Raf Esquivel|allies]], the ship's sentience was defeated, but had already located four Iacon relics. {{storylink|Flying Mind}} The Decepticon forces were sent to the four locations around the world: Knock Out and an Insecticon to New York City {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}}, Dreadwing to Antarctica {{storylink|Triangulation}}, Soundwave to a wooded area {{storylink|Triage (episode)|Triage}}, and [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]] to a volcano around the equator. {{storylink|Toxicity}} Knock Out, Dreadwing, and Hardshell's endeavours all end in failure, Soundwave being the only victorious one. {{storylink|Triage (episode)|Triage}} After mistakenly reporting Bulkhead's destruction to Megatron, Hardshell was himself destroyed by a vengeful Wheeljack and Miko.{{storylink|Hurt}}

[[File:FlyingMind-DecepticonsOnDeck.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|And the Decepticons always remembered this as the day Megatron said, [[Frank Welker|"Well it was either this or college!"]]]]
Breakdown's remains were used to save the mortally wounded {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (episode)}} MECH leader Silas - to Megatron and Knock Out's disgust - who attempted to join the Decepticon ranks, but when his offering of Project Damocles was destroyed by the Autobots, he was hauled away for dissection by Knock Out. The effort did bear fruit in that the location of Raf Esquivel's home was discovered,{{storylink|The Human Factor}} narrowing down the location of the Autobot base. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}}. The Decepticons lost the upper hand briefly when Optimus acquired the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] {{storylink|Legacy}}, but the blade was destroyed by Megatron's knock-off [[Dark Star Saber]]. Additionally, the Decepticons found the existence of the [[Omega Key]]s on Earth, though they were unaware of their true function. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}}. Knock Out successfully retrieved a Key, while Dreadwing lost one, but it turned out new Autobot recruit [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] is the final Key, and was promptly kidnapped by Soundwave. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}} Megatron learned of the Omega Keys' ability to revive Cybertron, but Smokescreen made off with the two Keys the Decepticons possessed. However, the rogue Starscream was able to steal all three Autobot Keys, and proposed to use them as a bargaining chip to return to the Decepticons. {{storylink|Inside Job}}

Naturally, Megatron was less than convinced of Starscream's loyalty, and watched his memories via cortical psychic patch to find his true motives. While evidence of Starscream's treachery was rampant, Megatron allowed him to return since the Decepticons must be united to revive Cybertron. However, Dreadwing was enraged and disillusioned by Megatron's pardon, since his leader was apathetic to Skyquake becoming one of the undead, {{storylink|Patch (episode)}} but his attempt to murder Starscream was halted when Megatron killed him with his own blaster. Starscream returned to his position of second-in-command, and worked out the location of the Omega Lock on Cybertron. Megatron battled the Autobots on their home planet, lost the Keys, but Starscream, Knock Out and Soundwave kidnapped the Autobots' human allies and held them hostage. {{storylink|Regeneration (Prime)}} The Autobots handed over the Keys in exchange for the children, and Megatron turned the power of the Omega Lock on Earth to cyberform it. Optimus used the Star Saber to destroy the Omega Lock and all hope of restoring Cybertron, but Megatron launched a full-scale invasion of the Earth from his new fortress of [[Darkmount (Earth)|Darkmount]], with his first act of aggression being destroying the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]]. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}}

In the wake of the Autobots' defeat, and having found no corpses in the base's remains, the Decepticons increased global surveillance to find them - also dealing a similarly devastating blow against the United States military with its fusion cannons. Megatron feigned a desire for peace to the US government, a cover for his eventual violent conquest of Earth. A search on Cybertron for the missing relics turned up [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} who is quickly reinstated into the Decepticon command structure as first lieutenant of all scientific endeavors, to Starscream's chagrin. Efforts to find the Autobots resulted only in failure, leading Shockwave to unleash the massive [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] he cloned, [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] to hunt down the Autobots, {{storylink|Scattered}} only for it to come home empty-handed. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} The Autobots were able to spread the Decepticon ranks thin and away from Darkmount, and the newly arrived [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] lead the regrouped team to assault the fortress. The attack was eventually halted and the Autobots were taken prisoner, only for an upgraded Optimus Prime to arrive and single-handedly turn the tide. Earth's military was able to bring Darkmount crumbling to the ground, forcing the Decepticons to go on the defense and return to using the ''Nemesis'' as their base of operations. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)}}

The Decepticons turned their efforts to cloning, and enjoyed a string of successful ventures to retrieve Predacon fossils to engineer an army of the extinct beasts thanks to the efforts of Shockwave and Soundwave, {{storylink|Project Predacon}} the Predacon, {{storylink|Chain of Command (Prime)}} and Knock Out. {{storylink|Plus One}} Jealous of Megatron's favoring Shockwave, Starscream coerced Knock Out to create an army of super soldiers with a mix of Dark and [[Synthetic Energon]], starting with the imprisoned Cylas. However, this only created a new form of Terrorcon that craved and drained Energon from a victim, starting a plague that threatened the entire ship. The Decepticons struggled to repel the infected, until Cylas freed Airachnid from her stasis pod. The former prisoner killed Cylas and called the Insecticons to rejoin her, but Airachnid's latest attempt to overthrow Megatron was put down by Soundwave, who bridged her and her army to a dead moon of Cybertron. The crisis weakened the Decepticons with the loss of the Insecticons and the infected Vehicons, having depleted more than half of their military strength. Shockwave subsequently speeded up progress on Project Predacon, {{storylink|Thirst}} but Predaking revealed his sentience and ability to transform on the verge of the project's completion. The former beast asked to lead the coming Predacons on Megatron's behalf, but the Decepticon leader and his command staff knew better than to give him control of a more powerful army than the depleted Decepticons. Following a plot engineered by Starscream, the Decepticons allowed the Autobots to destroy the Predacons before they escape their pods, to Predaking's horror and rage. The destruction of the lab, coupled with the presence of Synthetic Energon, resulted in the lab being filled with pure Cybermatter. {{storylink|Evolution}}

[[File:Deadlock-Megatron-Decepticons-extinguished.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Megatron shouldn't have gone to Unicron for life insurance.]]
Shockwave realized the Cybermatter could cyberform entire worlds. Megatron resolved to restore the Omega Lock and rule a cyberformed Earth and a revived Cybertron, but found the synthetic Energon formula was incomplete, and had Ratchet delivered to him by the captured Soundwave, while his lieutenants gathered human technology to repair the Omega Lock. {{storylink|Minus One}} As the device was being restored, Megatron appealed to Ratchet to finish the synthetic Energon formula, playing on the medic's love for his home to outweigh his reservations about aiding the leader of the Decepticons. Ratchet eventually consented when he was shown the nearly completed Omega Lock {{storylink|Persuasion}} and soon completed the formula. In return, Megatron turned him over to the vengeful Predaking, but Ratchet - having learned the truth thanks to a slip up from Knock Out - revealed Megatron's plot to wipe out Project Predacon. Predaking turned on the Decepticons and slaughtered countless Vehicons, but was bested by Megatron in combat. Ratchet gave his comrades a way onto the warship, and Megatron mobilized his remaining army for their last stand. {{storylink|Synthesis}} While Megatron battled Optimus with the Dark Star Saber, Jack and Miko banished Soundwave to the [[shadowzone (dimension)|shadowzone]] on the bridge, while the other Autobots fought to capture the ship. Smokescreen and Bumblebee tried to get the Star Saber to Optimus, but Megatron killed Bumblebee as he tried to do so. However, the scout's corpse, having fallen info the Omega Lock, was revived by the Cybermatter, and ran Megatron through with the Star Saber, finally killing the leader of the Decepticons once and for all. Their leader dead, Shockwave, Starscream, and what few Vehicons remained abandoned ship, while Knock Out attempted to join the winning team. The ''Nemesis'' was used to fire the Omega Lock into the [[Well of All Sparks]], and Cybertron was restored. {{storylink|Deadlock (episode)|Deadlock}}

Most of the Vehicons had theoretically surrendered to the Autobots, and were part of an inept crew of construction workers under Bulkhead's watch. Though, not all hope was lost for the Decepticons. Shockwave & Starscream had been moving to the former's labs, cloning more Predacons to overthrow the Autobots in their newly restored home world. However, when Unicron took over Megatron's semi-lifeless body, the [[Skylynx|two]] [[Darksteel (Prime)|Predacons]] they had cloned joined [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] in helping the Autobots save Cybertron from an army of Terrorcon-Predacons headed to corrupt the core once more, after Shockwave had been beaten up by the zombie dragons and encouraged the Predacons' decision. To make matters worse for them, Knock Out, who had been imprisoned by the Autobots, officially joined their side. When the Autobots put a stop to Unicron's plans and trapped Unicron in the [[AllSpark]]'s container, Megatron officially disbanded the Decepticons after being victim of Unicron's eternal torture and realized the true meaning of oppression. With Starscream all alone, he returned to his roots and decided to take command of the seized-functioning faction, but the Predacons had something in store for their former abuser... {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}}

===Rescue Bots===
Bumblebee mistook the [[MorBot]]s as Decepticons. {{storylink|Bot to the Future}}

==Merchandise==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====
[[File:Movie Decepticon Screencleaner.jpg|105px|thumb|Transforms your dirty screen to a clean one and — well, actually just the first thing.]]
*'''Decepticon''' (2008)
:Released by Tomy Yujin on January, this dangler is a [[Insignia|faction logo]]-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Decepticon insignia printed on the other side.
{{--}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Destron''' (デストロン ''Desutoron''), '''Combatron''' (''Car Robots'', コンバットロン ''Konbatoron''), '''Decepticon''' (ディセプティコン ''Diseputikon'')
*''Armenian:'' '''Deseptikonner''' (Դեսեպտիկոններ, "Decepticons")
*''Cantonese:'' '''Kwòng Pāǐ''' (Hong Kong, 狂派, "Con Faction", literally "Mad Faction" or "Crazy Clan")
*''Danish'': '''Bedragerne''' (Marvel comic, "Betrayers"), '''Bedraonerne''' (''The Transformers'' cartoon)
*''French:'' '''Decepticans''' (France ''The Transformers'' cartoon)
*''Hungarian:'' '''Álcák''' (Marvel comic, "Disguises"), '''Decepticonok''' (toy commercial, second ''The Movie'' dub), '''Varangyok''' (first ''The Movie'' dub, "Toads"), '''Robotikák''' (''Energon'', ''Cybertron'', "Roboticas")
*''Indonesian:'' '''Decepticon''' (더섶티콘 ''Déséptikon''), '''Panggajwo''' (팡가줘, "Destroyer")
*''Italian:'' '''Distructors'''
*''Korean:'' '''Decepticon''' (디셉티콘 ''Diseptikon'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dí Sài Kāng''' (Taiwan, 迪賽剛), '''Ba Tian Hu''' (China, 霸天虎, "Tigers that Forcibly Occupy the Sky")
*''Polish:'' '''Deceptikony''', '''Decepcjokony''' (first ''The Movie'' dub, "Deceptiocons"), '''Dezorientaci''' (''Beast Wars'')
*''Portuguese:'' '''Decépticos''' (Portugal comic), '''Malignus''' (Brazil comic)
*''Serbian:'' '''Deseptikoni'''
*''Swedish:'' '''Bedragare''' (Marvel comic, "Betrayers")
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Obmanoidy''' (Обманоіди, "Decepticons")

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Predacons Rising (Prime)

2014-07-26T23:37:43Z

SnipinScientist:

{{disambig3|Predacons Rising}}
{{episode
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]''
|prev=Deadlock
|next=
|image=PredaconsRisingCover.jpg
|caption="Today we face the monsters that are at our door, today we are cancelling the apocalypse!"
|title=''Predacons Rising
|airdate=[[October 4]] (TV premiere) and [[October 8]] (home video release), [[2013]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]] [[Marsha Griffin]] [[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]] [[Scooter Tidwell]] [[Todd Waterman]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}
'''Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons form an unlikely alliance to battle a resurrected Unicron.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has been restored, and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] gives a speech honoring those not still with them who helped make it possible. However even as he does so, back on [[Earth]] at the bottom of the ocean, [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] is awoken by [[Unicron]]. Megatron is confused as to why his [[spark]] not one with the [[AllSpark]], but Unicron explains that Megatron's [[Dark Energon]] use has made that impossible. Requiring a new vessel with which to carry out his plans, Unicron reformats Megatron's body into a more powerful form, takes possession of it and heads into the sky. Meanwhile, Optimus holds a short ceremony to promote [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] to warrior, before announcing that he and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] are going to go and retrieve the physical AllSpark from where it was hidden during the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]].

[[File:PredaconsRisingBumblebeeisaWarrior.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Transformers Prime Beast Hunters: Bumblebee Rising]]
Streaking through space, Megatron believes Unicron intends to become ruler of Cybertron, but Unicron reveals that he instead intends to destroy Primus, which will spell the end for that planet, and soon all of the universe.

As [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] finds construction with [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] a troublesome task, [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] reports they've had no luck finding [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], incarcerated on the [[Trypticon (WFC)|warship]], attempts to persuade the Bumblebee he's on their side by providing him with information on where they might locate the fugitive Decepticons. [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] patrol the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]], now restored to a city, and run into an unpleasant surprise—the [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]] [[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] and [[Skylynx]]. The two Autobots are no match for the new clones, and Magnus is severely injured before Smokescreen manages to use the [[phase shifter]] to make their escape. [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] is called to Cybertron to tend to Magnus, while the other Autobots try to decide on their next step.

[[File:PredaconsRisingSkylynxandDarksteelDragons.jpg|right|thumb|300px|So, uh, when do we start rising?]]

Across space, Optimus and Wheeljack track the AllSpark to [[Theta Scorpii]]. Not wanting to risk losing [[Ultra Magnus's ship]] in the hazardous conditions there, Optimus continues on alone.

Utilizing Bumblebee's tracking skills, the Autobots find [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], who has located a Predacon burial ground uncovered by the restoration of Cybertron. Bumblebee attempts to persuade Predaking that there can be a truce, but Predaking refuses to forget the Autobots' role in the destruction of his brethren. The Autobots instead head for Megatron's old fortress of [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], which Knock Out has informed them may contain a map showing the location of Shockwave's laboratories.

Shockwave's current lab is in the ruins of [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]]. Starscream arrives with another recovered Predacon bone, shortly before Darksteel and Skylynx return, laughing about their recent scrap. Starscream is furious to learn they've wandered off and revealed themselves to the Autobots, ruining their one major advantage, the element of surprise.

Over at Theta Scorpii, Optimus finally sights the AllSpark's container, but there's also an incoming [[plasma storm]], and he has to rush to retrieve their target before it can close in.

As the Autobots are checking out the Darkmount computer, they're interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, who makes it aggressively clear to both Autobot and Megatron alike who's in control of the Decepticon leader's form. The Autobots are no match for the dark god, so they attempt to scram. They're brought to a halt by a [[Smelting pool|smelting pit]], and a blast from Unicron leaves Bulkhead, Arcee and Smokescreen dangling over certain doom. Bumblebee manages to keep Unicron occupied long enough for Ratchet to provide a means of escape via [[GroundBridge]].

Meanwhile, Optimus has retrieved the AllSpark and made it back to the ship mere seconds before the plasma storm, and the Autobots book it out of there, though an asteroid thrown by the chaos collides with the ship. Back on the warship, Bumblebee attempts to contact Optimus, but the damage Magnus's ship sustained means though his message gets through, Optimus can't respond. The Autobots quickly realize that Unicron's plan is to destroy their home planet.

[[File:PredaconsRisingMegatronandUnicron.JPG|thumb|left|300px|Can I borrow the car after this?]]
Acting on information from Bumblebee, Predaking finds evidence of Darksteel and Skylynx. He creates a signal in the form of a column of fire to try and attract the pair to his position, however the first to respond to it is Unicron. Megatron tricks Unicron into fighting the Predacon in the hopes if their shared body is mangled enough, it will be of no further use to Unicron and Megatron will be freed, however Unicron manages to defeat Predaking and, probing the Predacon's mind, learns of the burial ground.

The burial ground has also been found by Starscream, Darksteel and Skylynx, who summon Shockwave to help in gathering up the bones. Their task is interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, and Starscream is overjoyed to see whom he assumes is Megatron, however Unicron corrects him and bats him aside. Darksteel and Skylynx attack, but have no more luck against Unicron than anyone else has had. Opposition defeated, Unicron uses his power to raise the Predacon bones as an army of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]]. Starscream flees, while Shockwave is quickly dogpiled by the horde.

[[File:PredaconsRisinglastlineofdefense.jpg|250px|right|thumb|"You are [[Avengers|Cybertron's mightiest heroes]], and [[Captain America|I've]] called you all together for one reason: the [[Unicron|end of the world]] is here, and it's our job to stop it. The world is counting on us, and we will not fail. [[Autobot|You]] [[Decepticon|are]] [[Predacon (Prime)|all]] heroes, but today... we are all Cybertronians."]]
The Autobots, using the warship's computer to try and locate Unicron, detect the huge build up of Dark Energon at the burial ground and quickly realize what Unicron intends. As the horde starts moving across [[Hydrax Plateau]] towards the [[Well of All Sparks]], the Autobots prepare to use the warship to defend the location. Ratchet and Ultra Magnus are dropped off at a safe location and Smokescreen goes to retrieve the remaining relics from storage. Starscream arrives on the ship and frees the imprisoned Deceptions. They attempt to retake the ship, however Knock Out turns against Starscream, using the phase shifter to seize the [[Immobilizer]] and clock him with it... which also destroys the Immobilizer. Ooops.

Predaking arrives back at the burial ground and is horrified to see it has been desecrated. He asserts his dominance over Skylynx and Darksteel by fighting them, however Shockwave pops up to suggest they go put their combat skills to more productive use against Unicron's horde.

[[File:Predaconsrising-chaosandcreation.jpg|thumb|left|300px|"So you came to die with your planet!" "No, [[Batman|I]] came back to stop you."]]
The Autobots make their last stand in the warship, opening fire on the oncoming Terrorcons. While the horde flies up to attack the ship, the Predacon trio arrive to lend a hand. Unfortunately the warship is shot down a short time later by concentrated Terrorcon fire blasts, and the Autobots emerge, but Predaking tells them to leave the fighting to the beasts. The Predacons are only able to slow the horde's advance though, and the Terrorcons start heading into the Well of All Sparks. Unicron himself feels the presence of the AllSpark as Magnus's ship arrives back on Cybertron. Optimus jumps out to attack Unicron, who shoots down the ship down before Optimus can engage him. Even Optimus has trouble fighting Unicron, and he's only saved when Bumblebee uses the [[polarity gauntlet]] to halt Unicron's blow. Optimus flies to where Bulkhead and Arcee are helping Wheeljack out of the wreck of Magnus's ship, intending to secure the AllSpark. Unicron breaks free of the polarity gauntlet's grasp and catches up with Optimus, who is now fleeing with the AllSpark, shooting the Autobot leader down. Unicron opens the AllSpark container intending to devour the contents, only to find it is empty. Unicron's anti-spark is drawn out of Megatron by the vessel, which pulls it into itself and seals, trapping it there. The link to Unicron severed, the Terrorcon army disintegrates just before it can reach the core.

[[File:PredaconsRisingWellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|right|300px|AllSpark: Taste the Rainbow.]]
Starscream lands, having escaped his cell during the crash, and welcomes Megatron back from the dead, believing Megatron will once again lead the Decepticons. Having been put through the torments of Unicron, Megatron is broken, and no longer wishes to be an oppressor. Over Starscream's objections, he declares the Decepticons no more, and flies away, destination unknown. Starscream also flees, going instead to Darkmount where he intended to take his place as Decepticon leader. His reign is short-lived, as the Predacons arrive looking to settle some old scores with him.

At the Well of All Sparks, Optimus reveals that in order to set the trap for Unicron, he was forced to empty the AllSpark into the [[Matrix of Leadership]] inside him. This unfortunately means that his own spark is one with the multitude of others now inside the Matrix, and the only way the AllSpark can be restored to the Well is by merging it with the planet's core, which means giving up his own life. Despite protestations, Optimus assures them there is no other way, and that the age of Primes is over... and that new leaders will arise not by decree of ancient talismans, but by the virtue of their actions. Optimus flies into the Well, sacrificing himself, which releases a multitude of sparks into the sky.

[['Til all are one]].

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (2)
*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] (3)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (4)
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] (5)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (6)
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (7)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (11)
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (14)

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*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (8)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (10)
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (16)
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] (17)

|h4=[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]
|c4=
*[[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] (12)
*[[Skylynx]] (13)
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (15)

|h5=Others
|c5=
*[[Unicron]] (9)
*[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]] Predacons (18)
}}

==Quotes==
"Optimus Prime would deem it a tragedy to stain Cybertron's fresh soil with any newly-spilled energon. So help us prove what Megatron was never willing to, that more than one race can peacefully co-exist on our planet." 
"You assume that because I turned against Megatron, I can forgive the Autobots their role in the destruction of my brethren on Earth? Leave me be and dare not trespass here again."
:—'''Bumblebee''' tries to appeal to '''Predaking'''... and fails.

"What are we supposed to call him, huh? Megacron? Unitron?" 
"Really? That's your biggest issue right now?''
:—'''Smokescreen''' debates over what to call a Unicron-possessed Megatron, while '''Arcee''' has more important things to do.

"It isn't fair. How many more times do we have to save a world? Have to fight for the survival of our home?" 
"Regrettably the struggle between creation and destruction is an eternal one, and the battle lines which separate the two run through the very spark of Cybertron. Good and evil; order and chaos; one victorious, one vanquished. Each forming the core of their own separate worlds, Cybertron and Earth. And now the darkness has followed us all the way home."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Ratchet''' lament the latest developments.

"In the name of the mighty legions of Predacons who preceded me, I shall never again yield to your charge, but I will heed your previous advice and face my true enemy as a beast!"
:—'''Predaking''' to Unicron/Megatron.

"I say we show 'Lord of the Undead' what it's like to be unliving." 
"Rip him to shreds."
:—'''Skylynx''' gets a big boost of confidence and '''Darksteel''' gets a boost of volatility.

"'Bee, in case I'd never get another chance to say this, you've really proved your mettle." 
"I'd like to think my actions always spoke louder than my words, Arcee, but it didn't hurt to watch and learn from the best." 
"Would be nice if Optimus showed up about now." 
"I was referring to a powerful little two-wheeler I know."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Bumblebee''' talking about taking it to the next level.

"The past shall consume the future, the dead shall consume the living, and chaos shall reign supreme!"
:—'''Unicron''' being a badass, riding a Terrorcon into battle.

"And who made you boss?" 
"I am not your boss. I am your ''KING''!"
:—'''Darksteel''' expresses his usual defiance, before receiving a verbal smackdown from '''Predaking'''.

"Knock Out! We needed that!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' channels Ratchet while telling off his new ally.

"Why'd you do it, Knock Out? Why'd you turn against Starscream?" 
"Even if I had helped him seize this ship, he would probably just fire me out of the first airlock. Oh. And he's ''rude''."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Knock Out''' discuss the latter's change of heart.

"Praise the All Spark! Master You're alive!" 
"Indeed." 
"Your new battle armor will take things to the next level my liege! Together we will reunite all Decepticons and once again grind Cybertron under your mighty heel." 
"NO!" 
"What!? Why?" 
"Because I now know the true meaning of oppression, and have thus lost my taste for inflicting it." 
"You've cleary been traumatized, Master. A good power down and a stroll around the smelting pit will put you back in touch with your inner warlord." 
''Enough!'' The Decepticons are no more and that is final." 
:—'''Starscream''' finds more has changed about '''Megatron''' than he expected. 

'''Starscream:''' This is not quite how I envisioned my rise to the throne, but since Lord Megatron all but surrendered it to me, I will gladly revive the Decepticons in my name. 
[Starscream gasps upon the Predacons' arrival] 
'''Starscream:''' Though, perhaps, the throne is more befitting of an actual king? 
'''Predaking:''' I am not here to seize thrones, Starscream. But to settle scores.
:—And the second reign of '''Starscream''' is shorter than [[Double Jeopardy|Terrorsaur's]].

"While this may very well mark the end of the Age of Primes, leadership can be earned, with or without the Matrix. And in my view, you have ''each'' acted as a Prime." 
"Well I never really had the best role models." 
:—'''Optimus''' passes leadership on to all the members of Team Prime, while '''Knock Out''' is actually humble for once.

"Above all, do not lament my absence, for in my spark, I know that this is not the end, but merely a new beginning. Simply put, another transformation."
:—'''Optimus Prime's''' closing words of the film and the whole series.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
*The pile of pipes that a crane picks up at Bulkhead's construction site doesn't behave like a pile of loose pipes, but as though they'd been welded together in the shape of a pile. In real life, the pipes are first tied together then lifted by a strap or other indirect method.
*Predaking is often missing his wings when he transforms into beast mode, for instance during the fight with Unicron/Megatron, Darksteel and Skylynx, and the fight against the Terrorcon Predacons. At the end of the last fight they just suddenly reappear when it ends at the Well of All Sparks.
*When Megatron perished in the [[Deadlock|previous episode]], the red lights from his optics faded, while his eyelids remained open. When his corpse is seen lying at the bottom of the ocean, they're closed. Such facial components tend to stay in the position they were following death, so it would have been impossible for his eyelids to close after his demise.

===Continuity errors===
*Shockwave's survival is questionable, at best. Once the Terrorcon Predacon army is raised from the dead, they pile on Shockwave, who is currently in vehicle mode. When he shows up to convince the living Predacons to do something useful, he's now in robot mode with minimal visible damage; the worst is a missing "wing" and his cracked optic. Furthermore, he just vanishes from the plot after that. Did the Terrorcons decide he didn't taste good? Or was this a last-minute [[Hasbro]] edict to save him for later use?
*Nothing ever comes of the third Predacon clone Shockwave was in the process of growing, though it wasn't given much time to mature after being introduced.
*Come to think of it, if Predacon bones were on Cybertron, why weren't they turned into Terrorcons back in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 5|Darkness Rising]]"? Either this was a necessary plot hole, or the Predacon burial ground was embedded deep enough that the Dark Energon didn't seep that far.
*Darkmount's throne is undamaged when Starscream tries to claim it, even though Unicron shot it multiple times and pitched a spear through it.
*The manacles that Knock Out and the Vehicons are wearing in their first appearance are gone when Starscream shows up to break them out.
*Ratchet's medical scan of Ultra Magnus shows two intact hands, when he clearly still has the claw Ratchet fashioned for him.
*Unicron orders his Predacon zombies to use their "dragon fire" against Primus. As shown in "[[Prey (episode)|Prey]]", the word "dragon" is unknown to Bulkhead and Wheeljack, and it's rather unlikely Unicron would be more familiar with human mythology than the Autobots.
*The length of the Well of All Sparks seems to change frequently throughout the episode. First, it takes the Terrorcons several minutes, flying at top speed, to almost reach the core. In the meantime, Optimus arrives back on Cybertron, Unicron and Optimus battle and Optimus sets and springs the trap for Unicron. Then, when the Terrorcons are disabled and blasted to dust, Predaking, Darksteel and Skylynx are left treading air in front of Primus. Yet when Starscream takes off for Darkmount, they apparently fly up and out of the well, catch up with him, and arrive mere seconds after he does. Then later, when Optimus dives into the well, he arrives at Primus in what seems like mere ''seconds''.

===Continuity notes===
*Bumblebee is promoted to Warrior-class after first mentioning it as his goal in "[[Masters & Students]]", and later admitting he was holding back to be promoted on Cybertron in "[[Project Predacon]]".
*Bulkhead goes back to construction as Ratchet suggested in "[[Alpha/Omega]]".
*A handful of Vehicons are seen helping repair buildings on Cybertron with the Autobots, though it's not made clear if this is forced labor or they just decided to switch sides. Other Vehicons are seen imprisoned with Knock Out, further muddling the issue.
*The AllSpark was introduced to the [[Aligned continuity family]] in the novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'', where it was launched from Cybertron during the war. The novel concluded with the Autobots' picking up its signal after departing Cybertron—an obvious allusion to a [[live-action film series|live-action movie]]-style journey to [[Earth]] in search of it—but this was dropped for the sequel ''[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]'', and nobody but Optimus seems to remember much about the whole affair here (likely as a means to better explain it to the audiences who didn't read the novels).
*Knock Out was locked up after being decked by [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko]] in "[[Deadlock]]".
*Knock Out gets payback on Smokescreen by sticking him in a wall with the Phase Shifter in an identical position to his own wall-imprisonment in "[[Inside Job]]".
*Knock Out destroys the [[Immobilizer]], which was introduced in "[[Partners]]", by knocking Starscream out with it.
*Smokescreen mentions that he almost became a Prime, which occurred in "[[Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion]]".
*Predaking [[Minus One|takes Megatron's advice]] and faces his true enemy [[Synthesis|as a beast]]!
*Knock Out refers to the Predacon Terrorcons as "zombiecons", a term previously used by Miko in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]".
*Predaking wishes to settle scores with Starscream due to the abuse inflicted upon him in "[[Prey (episode)|Prey]]", "[[Chain of Command (Prime)|Chain of Command]]", '[[Plus One]]", and "[[Evolution]]", as well as for the cheap shot that resulted in him losing his fight against Megatron in "[[Synthesis]]".
*Arcee mentions going to Vector Sigma to save Optimus's life like before, which occurred when Arcee took Jack to Vector Sigma to obtain the reloaded Matrix of Leadership to restore Optimus's memory.
*Shockwave's eye is damaged yet again, something which first happened in "[[Out of the Past]]" by Arcee, and in "[[Deadlock]]" by Bumblebee.
*In ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'', the Core of Cybertron itself reveals to Optimus Prime after offering him the Matrix that the Matrix and the Core working through Optimus to allow Cybertron's regeneration, it has also predicted he would lead Cybertron into a new age of unimagined wonders just as Optimus marks the end of the age of the Primes.

===Transformers references===
*Megatron's resurrection from the bottom of the ocean and subsequent travel into space recall similar scenes from ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''.
*Lord Smokescreen, [[Emperor of Destruction]]!
*Unicron calls his new form an [[Instruments of Destruction|Instrument of Destruction]].
*Optimus brings new life to Cybertron by jumping into a pit that leads to the core of the planet and committing suicide. Why does that sound [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|familiar]]?
*The third Predacon clone being grown in Shockwave's lab heavily resembles [[Ripclaw (Prime)|Ripclaw]], albeit with a few minor changes.
*The [[Allspark]] is cast into space beyond Megatron's reach for safekeeping, [[Transformers (film)|yet]] [[Transform and Roll Out|again]].

===Real-world references===
*The laying of a sword on the shoulders as Optimus does with Bumblebee during the warrior ceremony is from the investiture ceremony, used when someone is knighted.

===Trivia===
*Originally, TVGuide's listing for this movie was incorrectly (yet still more appropriately) titled "Chaos Rising", which was later said to be the original title before Hasbro ordered the title changed. Though, TVGuide does still list it as a [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-14-season-3/chaos-rising-part-1/308171 three] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-15-season-3/chaos-rising-part-2/308171 part] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-16-season-3/chaos-rising-part-3/308171 episode] instead of a movie. Subsequently, however, this movie ''did'' eventually air on the Hub split into episode form, using the titles given by TVGuide. "Predacons Rising - Part 1" aired on [[November 14]], 2013, "Predacons Rising - Part 2" aired on [[November 18]], 2013, and "Predacons Rising - Part 3" aired on [[November 19]], 2013.
*Bumblebee demonstrates leadership skills as he manages the defense against Unicron's attack on the Well of All Sparks in Optimus Prime's absense.
*''Predacons Rising'' is a [[Hub Network|Hub]] Original Family Movie, concluding the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' cartoon.
*The [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] is used by Optimus to promote Bumblebee, and is never seen again in the rest of the movie. It's never mentioned as being aboard the ''Nemesis'' like the other Iacon relics are, so Optimus must still have it. But if so, why didn't he use it against Unicron?
*The film was leaked online a few weeks before its airdate.
*A few plot threads remain unresolved by the end of the film:
** [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] and [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] are still trapped in the Shadowzone.
** [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] is also still shambling around in the Shadowzone as well.
** [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] and her legion of Terrorcon [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticons]] are still on that dead moon of Cybertron's.
** Though [[Silas|Cylas]] wiped out the [[MECH]] troopers who had saved his life, it seems unlikely that the entire organization was killed off, given their generous resources. [[William Fowler|Fowler]] himself suspected MECH is a larger operation than just Cylas, leaving the rest of the organization at large.
** Fowler had a lengthy discussion with [[Jack Darby|Jack]] regarding his future career, suggesting he take up arms against any future Decepticon threat, and his lingering focus on the [[Apex Armor]] seemed rather heavy on the foreshadowing. This conversation ultimately received little to no follow-up.
** On a similar note, Fowler and [[June Darby|June]] seemed rather close by their last appearance in the series, but their future remains unknown, though [[Steve Blum]] voiced his belief on the season three DVD commentaries that they did get together after the series, with Fowler giving Jack a "It doesn't make me your dad," speech.
** How ''was'' [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] able to understand Bumblebee's beeps and boops?
** All unseen Insecticon sentries on Cybertron also remain at large, as do any unseen Decepticons.

===Foreign localization===

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'''Brazilian Portuguese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising'''"
:*''Original airdate:'' [[November 23]] [[2013]]
:*Something odd occurs in the Portuguese dubbing of Megatron. He is voiced by two actors in the movie, by [[Guilherme Lopes]], dub voice of [[William Fowler]], when in his mind and by [[Antônio Moreno]], his regular voice actor, when speaking through his body. What's strange is that in the dubbing credits, Lopes is credited as "Inner Megatron", indicating that this casting choice was not a mistake, but an order from the the distributor.

'''Indonesian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Transformers Prime: Kebangitan Predakon'''"
:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 4]] [[2013]]

Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)

2013-09-03T15:31:18Z

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{{videogame
|prev=Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)
|title=''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''
|image=Fall of Cybertron PC cover.jpg‎
|caption=Reminds you of ''Gears of War'', don't it?
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]] (console), [[Mercenary Technology]] (PC)
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|writtenby=[[Dan Jolley]]
|date=[[August 21]], [[2012]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T PEGI: 12
}}
'''''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''''' is a direct sequel to the 2010 game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)| War for Cybertron]]'' that was released on [[August 21]], [[2012]]. Published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]] and developed by [[High Moon Studios]] (with the PC version being handled by [[Mercenary Technology]]), the game is a continuation of the events of ''War for Cybertron'', It explores the [[Autobot]]s' attempts to escape from a rapidly deteriorating [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] aboard the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', as well as the gradual downfall and collapse of the remnants of Cybertronian society. A side story also focuses on the creation of the [[Dinobot (FOC)| Dinobots]].

==Synopsis==
===Chapter I: The Exodus===
:''Character: [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]''

The [[Ark (WFC)|Ark]] heads off to the portal which will take them to [[Earth]]. [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] invades the ship using the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'', sending [[Decepticon]]s over directly to the bridge of the Ark, forcing Bumblebee, [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] to fight off the aggressors. With more Decepticons swarming the engine room, Optimus heads off to help, leaving Bumblebee to protect the bridge. The artillery cannons are taken offline and the ship blows a [[moleculon fuse|fuse]]. Ratchet sends Bumblebee off to fix it, and after braving nearly being sucked into space, the scout soon replaces the fuse and ascending up a lift to the defense tower. He witnesses Autobots being overrun by a [[Titan (FOC)|Titan]] and then on another level, [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] attacking. He reaches the defense mainframe and rushes the Decepticon manning it, reactivating the Ark's guns. The tower is hit by a claw that knocks him down a shaft. With his alternator jarred back into gear, Bumblebee transforms and races through an outer area, avoiding explosions, Decepticon tow cables and large chunks of rubble. He passes [[Bruticus (WFC)|Bruticus]] having a [[Brawl (WFC)|brawl]] and bringing an [[Onslaught (WFC)|onslaught]] of destruction. He makes it to a stronghold, restocking on ammo, [[energon]] and weapons. He fights his way through a few waves of Decepticons, making his way to the engine room, where Prime and Megatron are doing battle. He pushes through enemy lines, with the help of two Titans, and makes his way to the engine room. There he finds Optimus and Megatron engaging in a fierce melee battle on the hull of the ship, and just as Megatron fires a huge cannon at Optimus, Bumblebee throws himself forwards, taking the shot meant for Prime. As Bumblebee falls, Optimus lifts his body...

===Chapter II: Defend the Ark===
:''Character: Optimus Prime''
Six days earlier, the Autobots are preparing the last transport for launch. [[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]] reports the energon reserves are aboard, and Perceptor is overseeing city shutdown, only for the news to come that the Decepticons have invaded the city. Optimus tries to contact [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]], as it's his sector the Decepticons have invaded, but gets no answer. As Prime moves to head out, a [[Warp Cannon]] crashes to the ground nearby and targets the Ark. Optimus heads through the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] ruins and enters Autobot City through a side door to find the Autobots trying to get the city stable without the absent Grimlock. After helping Ratchet stabilize a badly-injured [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]], Prime sends [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] to find where Grimlock's disappeared to. At the armory, [[Warpath (WFC)|Warpath]] reports that [[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] and others are trapped in a nerve center, so he and Optimus fight their way there. After fighting off a horde of Decepticons, they unseal the [[detpak]] from the nerve center door. Sending Warpath back to the Ark, Optimus goes in to meet with Perceptor, who's struggling to get the city working again so they can fight off the Decepticons. He sends Prime to activate an old artillery gun using energon from the Ark, and Prime soon puts the weapon to good use taking out Decepticons. With news that the Warp Cannons are firing on the Ark, Optimus heads to the engine room, but as he moves towards the flight deck, the corridors restructure around him. Decepticons, including [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]], have invaded the area, and Optimus finds many bodies, but heads for the neutron cannon. After fighting his way through more Decepticons, he brings the neutron gun online, but again the targeting is out. Optimus takes manual control and helps defend the Ark refueling station from a number of Decepticon tanks. When the cannon runs out of energon, Optimus heads back inside the city and is guided by a mysterious intelligence to the city's core where he pulls a lever... and the entire city transforms into [[Metroplex (FOC)|Metroplex]].

===Chapter III: Metroplex Heeds the Call===
:''Character: Optimus Prime''
Optimus and Metroplex head for the Iacon ruins where the Warp Cannons are located. Once they find the first Warp Cannon, Metroplex laboriously synchronizes his targeting systems with Optimus and together they take out the first cannon. Moving on, Prime helps the survivors of a crashed Autobot ship and finds Warpath in a huge plaza. With the second Warp Cannon shelling them, they head into a building and manage to get close enough to the cannon for Optimus to mark it for destruction by Metroplex. That done, Optimus heads down more corridors and is confronted by three Leapers, which Metroplex handily takes out by putting a fist through the wall. After fighting his way across a huge bridge, Prime gets close enough to the last Warp Cannon to mark it, only for it to take out Metroplex first. With no other choice, Optimus makes his way to the base of the cannon and forces open a door, only to be blasted by Starscream, bashed by Brawl and Onslaught, and dragged in front of Megatron. While Starscream gloats at his victory over Prime, Megatron simply blasts his Air Commander before killing an Autobot in front of the bound Prime. Luckily it turns out Metroplex is back online, and he rips the roof off Megatron's throne room before smashing Megatron into the ground repeatedly with his fist. Starscream pronounces Megatron dead, himself leader and orders the Decepticons back to base. The day is won, but unfortunately all the Autobots' energon is exhausted and they need to find more. Prime believes Grimlock may hold the key, and says Jazz and [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] are tracking down their missing comrade.

===Chapter IV: Eye of the Storm===
:''Character: Cliffjumper''
[[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] drops Jazz and Cliffjumper off over the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]] in the middle of a rust storm to look for Grimlock. In a ruined base, they find a crashed ship which they recognize as one that was stolen by Grimlock from the base. They soon spot Decepticons moving around and sneak inside the base. As they stealthily make their way through, they overhear some Decepticons discussing [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] and his "pets". Using a garbage conveyor, Cliffjumper finds himself in an ancient tomb where guardians are roaming around, scanning for Autobots. Jazz reports the rust storm is increasing in intensity outside. Cliffjumper finds a huge domed room and activates a starmap that shows him an image of [[Earth]]. Continuing through the tomb, Cliffjumper finds more Decepticons, plus sword marks and a trail of destruction he recognizes as Grimlock's work. Eventually he reaches outside again and spots Jazz, but a collapse cuts them off from each other. Cliff hunts through the storm and finds Jazz, freeing his companion from some fallen debris. They soon find more devastation and Jazz detects a faint Autobot distress signal which Cliffjumper tracks to a huge pit, just as the Decepticons seal it. Luckily the two Autobots find a huge bomb they use to blow the pit open and, leaving Cliffjumper behind, Jazz leaps in.

===Chapter V: Cut and Run===
:''Character: Jazz''
Jazz reaches the bottom of the pit and quickly finds [[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]] in [[stasis lock]]. The audio he plays back from Sludge's memory is not promising. The meaning of the green pods Jazz spots is clear when he finds himself under attack by the [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] horde. He blasts a tank which releases a toxic green gas, and he has to race to escape in time. Escaping the pit, he seals it and pair continue to look for the source of the distress signal. They stumble on a huge lake filled with energon which the Decepticons are mining. They fight their way across the moat to the Decepticon facility where Cliffjumper promptly manages to trip an alarm. Jazz utilizes a network of service tunnels, but creeping down one of them, he falls through a grating and is ambushed. Naturally he fights the Decepticons off and even helps out Cliffjumper who's pinned down by Wall Crawlers and other Decepticons. The pair rendezvous at the other side of the moat and head inside the tower. Within, they find Insecticons in tubes and a map pointing to Earth's solar system. Intriguing! Further in, they find Shockwave arguing with Starscream via hologram. Cliffjumper fails to creep up on Shockwave, who sets a bunch of Insecticons on them before leaving. While Jazz keeps the Insecticons busy, Cliffjumper diverts toxic waste into the refinery to make it overload. The refinery starts to melt down and the pair book out, getting picked up by Sideswipe just in time. Jazz contacts Optimus with the news there's a lake of energon ripe for the taking. The Autobots begin preparing a massive energon transport to take the energon to the Ark.

===Chapter VI: Death from Above===
:''Character: Vortex''
The Decepticons get wind of the Autobot plan, and as the transport heads back with a load of energon, Starscream tasks the [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s with intercepting it and leading it to an ambush. [[Vortex (FOC)|Vortex]] and [[Blast Off (FOC)|Blast Off]] are sent to clear a short-cut so Brawl can take a dropship and destroy a bridge. They fly through an ancient Autobot city. The pair run into Autobots though, and Blast Off ends up racing ahead, leaving Vortex to fight them. They eventually reach the bridge, but when Brawl shells it, they find it's shielded. Vortex deactivates the shielding, allowing Brawl to take out the side supports. The central support is a little trickier, and Brawl has to blow a hole in it so Vortex can get in to find the shield controls. After fighting more Autobots, including a Titan, Vortex uses a detpak on the central support and races out as the bridge collapses.

===Chapter VII: Belly of the Beast===
:''Character: Swindle''
Starscream springs his ambush on the transport, but the transport's defenses blast them. Onslaught exasperatedly sends [[Swindle (FOC)|Swindle]] under the transport to try to stop it. Swindle takes out the rear wheels and heads to the front, using his grapple to avoid the deadly acid pools, and takes out the front wheels. This unleashes a pair of titans which he has to destroy. However just as victory looks certain, the transport's wheels convert into jets. As the transport takes to the air, Swindle grapples on board.

===Chapter VIII: Combaticons Combine!===
:''Character: Swindle/Bruticus''
Within the transport, Swindle begins heading through the transport, aiming to take out the anti-aircraft defenses so the other Combaticons can come over in their drop ship. He blows a hole in an exterior wall and starts making his way along the side of the transport. Starscream announces he's calling off the assault, but is corrected by Onslaught, who still believes they can pull it off. Swindle finds the anti-aircraft cannons can be destroyed by simply shooting the shells being fed into them, so he does that, then moves around to the other side of the ship. Unfortunately the Autobots are wise to what the Decepticons are doing and destroy the controls for the shell feed shields so Swindle can't deactivate them. Onslaught brings the drop ship around, and Swindle hops on. Once he uses the top turret to destroy the last gun emplacement, the Combaticons merge into [[Bruticus (WFC)|Bruticus]] and start breaking things. He smashes through the transports turbine and break into the control room where the Combaticons split and make swift work of the Autobots. Unfortunately though they have the transport in their control, it's badly damaged and going down, and they can do little more than try to control its course as it crashes. Starscream's unimpressed that they managed to destroy half the energon supply in the crash, and when Onslaught talks back, pointing that the Autobots would have gotten all of it if they did nothing and everything going wrong was a result of Starscream's incompetence, Starscream orders the Combaticons arrested.

===Chapter IX: Megatron Returns===
:''Character: [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]/Megatron''
In his [[Soundwave's workshop|old workshop]] under the gladiator pits, Soundwave powers up the assembly systems so he can put Megatron's salvaged body back together. With the help of his minions, he manages to get Megatron back in one piece and uses an infusion of [[Dark Energon]] to bring his master back to life. Megatron's enraged by the news Starscream is in charge and, grabbing his cannon, heads out to confront his former lieutenant. He arrives, naturally, in the middle of Starscream's coronation. Starscream sets the assembled Decepticons onto their former leader, but as Megatron points out, he was practically forged in these arenas. Once he finishes with the many, many Decepticons, he blasts Starscream who flees. Onslaught offers to chase them down, but Megatron doesn't consider him a threat and has other plans. As the Decepticons move a huge statue of him into pride of place, Megatron meets with Shockwave who has deciphered the ancient technology to open wormholes and located a suitably energy rich planet for them to plunder. Megatron boards a drop ship and heads for the crater where [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] crashed with the intention of recovering the giant Decepticon's power core. Unfortunately his drop ship is shot down on the way.

===Chapter X: The Final Countdown===
:''Character: Megatron''
Jumping clear of the ship, Megatron notes that the Autobots have installed anti-aircraft defenses. Once the Decepticons assault the facility and take it over, Soundwave detects a power source nearby—the Autobots are using Trypticon's power core as an energy source. Furious, Megatron goes to investigate and takes out the defenses surrounding the main compound before calling in Bruticus to clear a path. The Combiner makes short work of the remaining Autobots and holds the massive doors open so Megatron can enter. After emptying the main compound of Autobots, he enters the main building where some Autobots are reporting to Optimus. Megatron slags them and makes it clear he blames Optimus for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s depleted state. The Autobots redouble their attempts to keep Megatron away, but as he gets closer to Trypticon, he realizes that the Autobots haven't removed the power core—Trypticon is still functional. Fighting through more Autobot defenses, including a titan, Megatron gets to Trypticon's legs and finds they've been bound. A few shots of Megatron's cannon frees them. Trypticon's torso is similarly easy to find, with a little help from Laserbeak. Once Megatron breaks Trypticon's bonds, Soundwave arrives and hacks the computer while Megatron smashes the Autobots attacking them. Trypticon, however, is still badly damaged. Megatron informs Trypticon that he failed to destroy the Autobots and will be rebuilt into a new form—the ''Nemesis''.

===Chapter XI: Starscream's Betrayal===
:''Characters: Decepticon trooper/Starscream/Grimlock''
As the Nemesis nears launch, the Decepticons are roused by an alarm as someone tries to hack Shockwave's data logs. A trooper is sent to check the main server. As the two troopers enter the server, they discuss Starscream, only for Starscream himself to decloak and flatten them. He checks the data logs and finds that Shockwave's latest experiment is in the central tower. He uses EMP detpaks to take out the security towers providing the defenses, which takes out the [[force field]]s protecting the maintenance shafts. Flying inside, he finds Shockwave experimenting on Grimlock with [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]], [[Kickback (FOC)|Kickback]], and [[Sharpshot]]. Once they leave, Starscream drops into the lab and informs Grimlock he'll be set free if he pledges allegiance to the Air Commander. Grimlock's responds that he can free himself and throws Starscream into a wall before going to look for [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]. He finds Swoop, only to be confronted by a hologram of Shockwave, who has predicted this move. After destroying all the Decepticons who come, he solves the problem of freeing Swoop by smashing things and the pair look for the rest of their team. They find more of Shockwave's experiments—Insecticons in tubes—and Swoop remembers where [[Slug]] is. Unfortunately Hardshell is waiting for them with some artillery, and Grimlock has to throw fuel pods at him until the ship's destroyed. Grimlock holds the Insecticon up to the optical scanner so they can progress. When they reach the surgical lab, it's totally trashed and there's a big hole in the floor. Grimlock and Swoop jump in.

===Chapter XII: Grimlock Smash===
:''Character: Grimlock/Swoop''
Beneath the lab, the ground gives way under Grimlock, dropping him into a tunnel, and he decides they'll split up to find Slug. He soon finds the area is infested with Insecticons. Shockwave's voice rings out, telling Grimlock that he has yet to fulfill his full potential and transform, and Kickback has volunteered to help. The Insecticon taunts Grimlock and unleashes a huge "bruiser" Insecticon to fight him. When Grimlock is angry enough, he finally changes form into a space ''T-rex''. Kickback decides discretion is the better part of not being slagged, but before he can escape, the door crashes down on him as Slug enters. Slug relates the news that Sludge didn't make it out of the caves, and [[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]]'s been taken by Shockwave for "extensive testing". As they step outside where Swoop is waiting, they see Shockwave's [[space bridge]] tower firing up. They soon track down Snarl being guarded by Sharpshot and squash his captor. Searching for a place to take shelter and patch up Snarl, they find an observatory and Slug discovers Shockwave's plans to open a space bridge portal. They contact Prime orders Grimlock to return to base, but Grimlock insists on taking the space bridge himself. With Swoop's help, he flies to the tower and fights his way though more Decepticons until he finds Shockwave working. As he goes to hit Shockwave, he's seized by energy chains, while Shockwave reports to Megatron that all is ready. Grimlock switches to dino mode to break free and rip Shockwave's arm off before bashing the space bridge which explodes. Back in Autobot City, the Autobots note that Megatron's portal is becoming unstable and decide they must urgently launch. Metroplex offers whatever spark energy he has left, which allows the Autobots to launch the Ark, at the cost of Metroplex's life.

===Chapter XIII: Till All Are One===
:''Characters: Soundwave/Jetfire/Bruticus/Jazz/Optimus/Megatron''
The ''Nemesis'' draws close to the ''Ark'' as it nears the portal. Megatron orders Soundwave to lead the first wave of the assault. Soundwave rides a tow cable over and, with the help of Rumble and Laserbeak, neutralizes the Ark's cannons. The Decepticons begin their assault en-mass. [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] flies outside and severs the tow cables, but even though he's successful, Bruticus flies right past him and lands on the hull of the ''Ark''. After smashing his way through the Autobot defenses, he busts the ship's main energon tank. Jetfire raises the alarm, and Jazz responds. He tries grappling onto Bruticus and shooting the giant in the face, but with the help of Jetfire and an EMP mine, the Autobots hit Bruticus with a series of air strikes, sending him flying off into space. Elsewhere, Bumblebee jumps in the path of Megatron's shot, saving Optimus. Enraged, Optimus punches Megatron across the hull and they face off once again. Their fight is eventually interrupted by the unstable space bridge portal sucking them and both starships in before closing.

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]])
*[[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] ([[Nolan North]])
*[[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] ([[Gregg Berger]])
*[[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]] ([[Mark Allan Stewart]])
*[[Slug]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]]
*[[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]] ([[Sam Riegel]])
*[[Warpath (WFC)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]])
*[[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] ([[Jim Ward]])
*[[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]]
*[[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Metroplex (FOC)|Metroplex]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]]
*[[Scattershot (WFC)|Scattershot]]
*[[Hound (WFC)|Hound]] <ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/26/play-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-multiplayer-on-july-31 Transformers: Fall of Cybertron - G1 Optimus Vignette]</ref>
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-video-game-discussion/27314578d1345329191-full-game-being-played-live-right-now-um.jpg]</ref>
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]
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*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]])
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Vortex (FOC)|Vortex]] ([[Dave Boat]])
*[[Swindle (FOC)|Swindle]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Blast Off (FOC)|Blast Off]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]])
*[[Bruticus (WFC)|Bruticus]] ([[Nolan North]])
*[[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]
*[[Sharpshot]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Kickback (FOC)|Kickback]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]]
*[[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]]
*[[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Dragstrip (WFC)|Dragstrip]]
*[[Quake (FOC)|Quake]] <ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-video-game-discussion/27312924d1344389064-fall-cybertron-quake.png</ref>
*[[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]]
*[[Dead End (WFC)|Dead End]]
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]]
*[[Leaper]]
*[[Guardian (FOC)|Guardian]]
*[[Wall Crawler]]<ref>[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/20/clever-devils-the-enemies-and-ai-of-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The AI of War for Cybertron]]</ref>
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Quotes==
"Metroplex heeds the call of the last Prime"
:—'''Metroplex''' assures Optimus that he's not there to render him into his component molecules.

"All we want is to leave!" 
"No one leaves without ''my'' permission!" 
"''I wasn't asking''." 
:—What '''Optimus Prime''' thought would be the last time he would have to tell '''Megatron''' how it was.

"Cliffjumper, you catch any of that?" 
"You mean the screaming, the horror, followed by more screaming?" 
"Uh, yeah, that'd be it."
:—'''Jazz''' and '''Cliffjumper''' discuss what they heard from Sludge's memory core.

"Always tinkering, aren't you, Shockwave? Must be quite the test!" 
:—'''Starscream''', after hearing Shockwave and the Insecticons discuss experiments on Grimlock.

"Nothing feels right... Hard to think."
:—'''Grimlock''', shortly after breaking free.

"I remember you, Grimlock. Do you remember me? Me? Me?" 
"''Kickback''..."
:—'''Kickback''' taunts '''Grimlock''' to provoke him into transforming.

'''Kickback''': Time for me to take my leave! 
''[Slug knocks the door down on Kickback]'' 
'''Slug''': Excuse me.
:—[[The Transformers: The Movie|Never gets old]], '''Slug'''.

'''Slug''': You cut through those guys like they were [[Beryllium baloney|Beryllium Bologna]]! 
'''Grimlock''': You mean [[Cesium salami|Cesium Salami]]! 
'''Slug''': No...Beryllium Bologna! 
'''Grimlock''': Cesium Salami!
:-[[The Transformers: The Movie|again with this argument, guys?]]

"You're weak, Optimus. You run when you should fight!"
:—'''Grimlock''' gives Optimus a piece of his mind.

"Pathetic! This is the so called Ark? The Autobots have placed all of their hopes on a glorified cargo hauler!"
:—'''Megatron''' gives his two cents about the Ark.

"After eons of conflict, I finally see the truth of your words, Megatron." 
"And what might that be, Optimus?" 
''[Megatron swings his sword, only for Optimus to stop his strike]'' 
"This universe, no matter how vast, will never be big enough for you and I to coexist. " 
''[Optimus punches Megatron across the Ark]'' 
:—'''Optimus Prime''' tells '''Megatron''' that he's done holding back.

"Ungh! This lever is heavy! Couldn't they just make it a button?"
:—'''Vortex''' makes a valid point.

==Gameplay==
Like ''War for Cybertron'', this game is an over-the-shoulder first-person shooter. The player has access to a range of weapons split between light and heavy and can carry one of each class at a time. As one would expect from a ''Transformers'' game, the player character can also transform to [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] which provides more maneuverability and in some cases the power of flight. Whereas in the previous game, characters had two abilities that were charged up by shooting opponents, each character now has "dash" and a unique ability that works on a time recharge. Abilities include Vortex's shockwave, Cliffjumper's cloaking, and Optimus Prime's ability to order a missile strike.

While ''War for Cybertron'' had three-bot teams in each campaign level, with the user playing as their choice of the three, ''Fall of Cybertron'' instead follows a single character at a time, though the character often teams up with other NPCs. This allows levels to be tailored to the player character's special abilities, such as Jazz's level having plenty of places to use his grapple, and Megatron's levels having places which are only reachable by hovering. The player will sometimes also automatically switch between characters as the narrative demands.

''Fall of Cybertron'' introduces an upgrade mechanic. The player collects energon from defeated opponents which they can use at [[Teletraan-1]] machines scattered throughout the levels to buy character upgrades, T.E.C.H. items such as [[C.L.U.T.C.H.]] drones, and weapon upgrades. Upgrades carry over between characters, so Megatron gets the benefit of upgrades purchased by Optimus Prime. Collecting the blueprints hidden in each level unlocks more upgrades or weapons. Also hidden throughout the levels are [[audio logs]], recordings left by various characters which give extra information or insight into an aspect of the game world. Energon can be used to open [[Armory Recreator]]s, which contain weapons and equipment.

Grimlock's sections alter the game mechanics substantially. He has no ranged attack, relying on melee with his sword. Rather than gaining currency from defeating Decepticons, their deaths fill his "rage meter", eventually allowing him to transform to his dino mode that lets him use his [[fire-breath]] and jaws to wreak more havoc. Similarly, Bruticus behaves like a melee brawler, fighting with a mix of weaponry like Vortex's propellers, a flamethrower, and the [[Sonic Pain Wave]].

===Multiplayer===
Fall of Cybertron follows War for Cybertron's tradition in having a fleshed-out, online multiplayer mode. The general idea is the same, but quite a number of gameplay elements have been added, removed, or altered. For example, vehicle mode abilities have been removed, but every character has the ability to dash. Weapons are also exclusive to each class and can't be wielded by other players.

Players can create custom characters to participate in the regular multiplayer mode. Customization options are greatly expanded from the previous game: Individual heads, bodies/[[Alternate mode|alt-modes]], shoulders, arms, legs, and wheels can be selected, all based on existing character models. The color palette is also expanded, and players can alter the shininess of characters and choose from three different voices per faction.

Characters level up by performing well in battle. Completing challenges will also yield experience points. Class weapons and abilities become unlocked by reaching certain levels. Reaching level 25 in every class unlocks "Prime Mode," which resets all experience points and challenges and gives the player a cool spinny icon next to his or her name. Reaching level 25 for all classes in Prime Mode grants the player access to "Elite" heads, which are 4 heads per class, and are the most iconic character of the class (Bumblebee, Optimus, Starscream and Megatron) with a crown.

Finally, [[Energon shard]]s can be gained along with experience points and can be spent on custom body parts and decals.

;Classes
The four classes return, with some alterations:
*[[Infiltrator (FOC)|Infiltrators]] - Cars. Fast, with an emphasis on stealth. Replaces the [[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] class.
*[[Destroyer (FOC)|Destroyers]] - Trucks. Mixture of defensive and offensive abilities, with emphasis on explosions. Replaces the [[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] class.
*[[Titan (FOC)|Titans]] - Tanks. Huge health and defense, heavy weapons. Replaces the [[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] class.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientists]] - Jets. Great speed, no armor, emphasis on healing and buffer abilities.

;Playlists
*Team Death Match - [[Fred Tatasciore|''ELIMINATE THE ENEMY TEAM!'']] Kills count as points for the player's team, and 40 points are required to win on default settings.
*Conquest - There are 3 nodes, A, B and C. Team members wait at nodes to fill a bar and capture the node, and all teams are competing constantly for the nodes. The possession of a node adds points, and the rate at which points are added is increased based on how many nodes the team has. The match ends once a team reaches 400 points.
*Headhunter - This match is very similar to Team Deathmatch, except killed enemies drop their [[Spark]]. Players must pick up these sparks and return them to teamless nodes to gain a point per spark. These nodes occasionally move, the approaching change signaled by beacons that mark their location, which flash when nodes are about to move.
*Capture the Flag - Both teams have flags in their base. Players must protect their own flag and capture the enemy flag. Each capture grants a point, and the amount of points required for a team to win is 3.

;Teletraan 1
The signature Autobot computer here lets the player sift through global player rankings and see the challenges he or she has completed. Prime Mode is also activated through this menu.

;Escalation
Up to 4 players face off against increasingly difficult waves. Once the players finish wave 15, the game ends and the players are scored on how many kills, deaths, and energon chips they collected throughout the match.

==Transformers references==
Aside from the obvious G1 inspired character designs, the game has some references to previous iterations of Transformers, a number of them from [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] and [[The Transformers: The Movie|the 1986 movie]].

* Soundwave does a short impression of a light fixture.
* Jazz and Cliffjumper are paired together, just as they were in the film and in the episode [[Starscream's Brigade]].
* Jazz finds an inscription on a tank in the Sea of Rust that says "IX-XVII-MCMLXXXIV," or the date that "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" first aired.
* During his coronation, Starscream is wearing the same crown his [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] wore in the movie, and the dialogue he has with Megatron during the scene is almost word for word as well. He even blasts him in tank mode, though this does not kill him like it did in the movie. The crown can be found in Starscream's level and worn for its duration.
* When Megatron is done killing off soldiers under Starscream's command, Starscream calls Megatron a [[Pretender to the Throne!|pretender to the throne]]
* When Kickback runs to the door, Slug pushes it from outside and the door falls, smashing Kickback to the ground and when Slug sees Kickback under the door, he says "Excuse me!". This is a straight homage to the scene where [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] pushes the door and it smashes the [[Quintesson]] prosecutor.
* A secret room can be found in Grimlock's level containing his waiter outfit from "[[Madman's Paradise]]"; upon finding it, Grimlock utters his famous movie quote, "Me Grimlock no bozo, me king."
* After defeating a group of Insecticons, Slug says that Grimlock tore through them like they were "[[beryllium baloney]]", but Grimlock says "[[cesium salami]]", mirroring the scene where their Generation 1 counterparts argue on [[Quintessa]].
* In an audio log left by [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'' is described as [[Vanguard-class Deep Space Interceptor]], a term which originated in [[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]].
* The five [[Dinobot (FOC)|Dinobot]]s are originally grouped together as the "[[Lightning Strike Coalition]]", the name of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s breakaway Autobot faction in "[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages]]". On that note, the Coalition's logo serves as the difficulty symbols.
* The [[Path Blaster]] is named for the [[Pathblaster]] from "[[Time Wars]]". One of its modifications is named for Generation 1 episode "[[The Gambler]]" and involves the use of [[Destronium]], a substance introduced in ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]''.
* The [[Riot Cannon]]'s "Planet Buster" modification is likewise named after the [[Planet Buster]] that appeared in the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon.
* The [[neutron assault rifle]]'s special modification is the "P.O.K.E. Beta"—not the first [[Punch of Kill Everything]] reference in the game series.
* One of the corrosive slime cannon's modifications for multiplayer is the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] Disperser.
* Other weapon modifications available include [[tachyon transmitter]], [[fireblast]], [[turbo booster]]s, [[transwarp]] ballistics, and [[R-infinity accelerator|R-Infinity]] finders.
* Bruticus's special attack is the [[Sonic Pain Wave]], one of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (franchise)| Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s weapons.
* When Cliffjumper is accessing the Teletraan I store one of the random phrases apologizes for not being able to provide [[glass gas]], the unique weapon of G1 [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]].
* In Chapter IX, playing as Megatron after his awakening Soundwave says "Less talk, more work", quoting the G1 episode Megatron's Master Plan part 2.
* In Grimlock's secret room in the second level, there are three swords that resemble the [[Master Sword]] mounted on fixtures around the room.

As part of the expanding [[Aligned continuity family|Aligned continuity]], ''Fall of Cybertron'' also incorporates thematic and visual references to the ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'' novel and the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' television series:
* Bumblebee's voice circuits/vocal processor having been damaged prior to the story's beginning, essentially rendering him mute.
* Optimus Prime's [[Path Blaster|rifle]] design, which was described by [[High Moon Studios]] as being an earlier version of the rifles Optimus uses in the ''Prime'' television series.
* Optimus being referred to as having been a librarian named Orion Pax and Megatron having been a gladiator from Kaon named Megatronus.
* Cliffjumper's head design and Megatron's reformatted/rebuilt body design.
* Dark Energon's power to revive the dead is an aspect from the ''Prime'' television series that was not seen in the previous game, ''War For Cybertron''.
* Trypticon being reformatted into the ''Nemesis''.
* The discovery that there were [[Ancient]]s who had traveled to other planets, particularly Earth.
* One of the weapons is called an [[Energon Harvester]].

==PC version notes==

Initially, developer High Moon Studios commented (as late as [[BotCon 2012]] on the end of April of that year) that there would not be a Windows PC version of ''Fall for Cybertron'' due to their own lack of experience with the PC platform and the criticism the PC version of ''War for Cybertron'' had received. However, shortly before the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) 2012 in early June, publisher Activision announced a PC version of the game, to be developed by [[Mercenary Technology]], a new studio formed by "veterans of the industry".

The PC version of ''Fall of Cybertron'' improves upon the console versions of ''Fall'' (and indeed the PC version of ''War for Cybertron'') by featuring higher quality graphics, higher resolution textures, runs at 1080p resolution and 60 frames per second (versus 30 frames for the console version). Unfortunately, as is standard in most console game ports, the graphical settings are lacking and the controls cannot be reset/rebound.

==Notes==
*A lot of characters fates are left unaccounted for by the end of the game. The Dinobots, Sideswipe, Perceptor and Warpath were not seen boarding the Ark, Cliffjumper was seen at the launch site but was not seen on the Ark itself, and [[Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|some]] [[Out of the Past|events]] in ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' put his arrival on Earth in doubt. Starscream is never seen again after Grimlock knocks him out, leaving it unknown if he made it to ''Nemesis'' launch (despite his being accounted for in [[Transformers: Exodus]] and [[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]). While ''Transformers: Prime'' confirms Hardshell's survival in this game, Kickback's fate is un-addressed and Bruticus is chucked off the Ark into space, leaving his fate open to question (though, ''[[Transformers Prime: Rage of the Dinobots|Rage of the Dinobots]]'' has the Combaticons back on Cybertron, implying that Bruticus made it back there). Finally assuming that this game eventually follows into ''Transformers: Prime'', most characters on the Ark and Nemesis have not been seen in the series leaving their fates unclear. However, episode 54 of the cartoon, "[[Scattered]]", reveals that the original crew members of the Ark were "scattered to the wind", leaving their fates open to be explored by future story material.
*This game, like its predecessor, plays a Stan Bush song at the end, this time being a slightly modified version of "[[The Touch]]", using elements from both the 2007 and 2009 versions to create a unique hybrid of the two. Soundwave plays it, while Bumblebee dances.
*One of the unlocks for beating the game is the Glass Gas Cannon, however, Teletraan still tells Cliffjumper during replays that it is not available.
*In chapter 8, when Bruticus is beating the slag out of the Autobots, one of the screams used is the "Wilhelm Scream".
*In an unfortunate oversight, the downloadable demo for the game is the first section of Chapter VI, in which one can find an audio log that blows the surprise of Megatron's death earlier in the game. Oops.

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official Website]
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/10/06/november-cover-revealed-transformers-fall-of-cybertron.aspx November cover revealed: Fall of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/07/transformers-high-moon-studios-tour.aspx Transformers: High Moon Studio tour] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/10/fall-of-cybertron-the-new-optimus-prime.aspx Fall of Cybertron: The New Optimus Prime] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/games/transformers_fall_of_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2011/10/14/grimlock-rises-in-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-teaser-trailer.aspx Grimlock Rises In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Teaser Trailer] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/12/behind-the-crosshairs-the-weapons-of-transformers.aspx Behind the Crosshairs: The Weapons of Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://youtu.be/Tn4ECyCExeg Fall of Cybertron Teaser 01] @ YouTube
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/13/the-illustrated-tour-of-cybertron.aspx The Illustrated Tour of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/17/directing-transformers-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The Story And Direction Of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/19/animating-the-transformers.aspx Animating The Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/20/clever-devils-the-enemies-and-ai-of-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The Enemies & AI Of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/21/transformers-resurrecting-the-dinobots.aspx Transformers: Resurrecting The Dinobots] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/24/fall-of-cybertron-deep-character-dive-jazz.aspx Fall Of Cybertron Deep Character Dive: Jazz] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/26/the-transformers-timeline.aspx The Transformers Timeline] @ Game Informer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/26/true-to-character-transformer-fall-of-cybertron.aspx True To Form: Safeguarding The Transformers License] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/28/creating-the-sounds-of-the-transformers.aspx Creating The Soundscape Of Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/31/larger-than-life-designing-transformer-s-set-piece-moments.aspx Larger Than Life: Designing Fall of Cybertron's Set Piece Moments] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/11/02/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-gameplay-roundtable.aspx Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Gameplay Roundtable] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/11/03/tfse.aspx Special Edition Podcast: Transformers: Fall of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVsINYfFG5Q Fall of Cybertron Cinematic Teaser Trailer] @ YouTube
*[http://www.spike.com/video-clips/ul8dqy/video-game-awards-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-trailer Fall of Cybertron Cinematic Trailer] @ Spike TV ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E358n7pcI Mirrored] @ YouTube)
*[http://www.gamespot.com/transformers-fall-of-cybertron/videos/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-official-trailer-6368583/ Fall of Cybertron Official Gameplay Trailer] @ Gamespot

==Footnotes==

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Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2013-08-24T08:42:07Z

SnipinScientist: /* WFC/FOC Visor */

== Triple Changer? ==

Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Image ==

I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

==Cybertron Adventures==

Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]

== Other Figures ==

Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

What about the new Legion Class Soundwave. Mold wise it's clearly DOTM Soundwave, but the packaging is for the Prime line with his Prime Bio on the back. [[User:helli0n|helli0n]] 21:27, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:I don't know much about the bio on the back but the front of the packaging omits the Prime name just like it does for Mirage and Evac. They wouldn't leave them out if they were blatantly meant to be Prime toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:45, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== Voice Actor ==

If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)

== Quote ==

Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.

"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}

==toy picture==

It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/

It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.

==Shockwave (DOTM)==

Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)

== Season 2 ==
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)
This topic is rendered moot. {{unsigned|Seriousrunner2|13:12, 15 November 2012 (EST)}}

== Go-Box ==

His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)

== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==

The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

:No, that's just a coincidence. (and really, he doesn't look anything like Laserbeak.)--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 09:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)
::Not like Laserbeak, but still very much a bird. The "'''Talon''' Grapple Cannon" even hangs below him like a bird's claws.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:45, 26 March 2013 (EDT)

== "Canons" ==

Someone might want to go correct that in the Prime toy's mention of the Takara release.

== Soundblaster ==

Should'nt we add the Soundblaster and Buzzsaw repaint of the Fall of Cybertron Soundwave toy to the page?

== RID Soundwave's arms ==

I just got a deluxe Soundwave the other day, and noticed that mine has an... ''interesting'' use of plastic in the parts of the arms that fold out with the hands on them: On his right arm, this piece is cast in a slightly flexible, but still rigid, plastic (''a la'' Wheeljack's swords), yet on the left arm, it's that annoying soft plastic. Did I get a factory reject, or is this a common curiosity? If all (or even multiple) figures have them, I think it ought to be mentioned on the page.
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 02:15, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

:Managed to compare my Hasbro and TakaraTomy Soundwaves. The Hasbro version features slightly more rigid a plastic head, arms, tail-fins, nose, and Laserbeak wings, while the TakaraTomy version has soft rubbery ones. Interesting. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 06:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
::Mine's the Hasbro version. The nose and heels are soft, but they're just in between the two arms in terms of harness, whereas the head seems to match the right arm. The left arm is just weird, though. It's the only part that's made of a plastic ''that soft''. This isn't something that one would have to compare two figures to notice. It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 23:58, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
:::Mine's the same way. I think it must be a more common malfunction or material swap or something. Not really sure.
:::--[[User:Dreadwing47|Decepticon Dreadwing, Megatron's loyal servant.]] 20:15, 26 January 2013 (EST)

== Soundwave's blasters ==

Should something be added about FoC Soundwave's handheld blaster? It's identical to G1 Prime's Ion Blaster, although it was omitted in the first run of FOC Soundwaves released in Australia (possibly all of them, but we don't know for sure)?[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 15:19, 5 November 2012 (EST)
This is common knowledge and the similarity is already noted, the accesory was ommited entirely for cost cutting reasons.
[[User:Grimlock140|Grimlock140]] 19:10, 13 December 2012 (EST)

== Beast Hunters toy ==

Arms folding in, looks like I've been mistransforming him. Sorry about that.

Also, in regards the feet it seems I goofed there too; I meant the heels, which become the nose in vehicle mode. I don't think those were rubber on the original toy.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 09:47, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
: The rubberized sections [[#RID Soundwave's arms|varied]] on the original figure, so it could stand that this Soundwave would also have plastic differences that would vary per figure. For example, my BH Soundwave has a nose made of more rigid plastic, just like my PRiD Hasbro Soundwave. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 10:13, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
::Regarding the colors, while its not in the same placement (yellow chest and blue body) as the G1 character (or possibly the Cybertron version), it ''is'' pretty much the same shades, and it's hard to believe that they released a Soundwave with colors closer to the original archetype on ''accident''. I mean, we're not requiring explicit statements from the engineers to detail the homages on BH Bulkhead or Ratchet.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:52, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Is it the same shades? G1 Soundwave was typically a much darker blue, and had gold accents, not bright yellow ones. Plus if they were deliberately going for a G1 homage, why would the deco artist throw in a bunch of that metallic brown too? Count me as a vote against it being an homage. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 19:46, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Jalaguy basically just made my argument. Some color and design homages are obvious, but this one is arguable.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 21:16, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Sorry, but I'm rapidly coming to the opinion that people don't know what an "homage" is. It is not "kinda sorta if you squint reminds you of something". A G1 Soundwave homage would be FAR more coherent a layout and, given Hasbro's preferences, ''toy-based'' look. This has a vague resemblance at best. ''Not everything is a reference or homage. Sometimes it's just a coincidence.'' And barring a designer saying "Why yes I deliberately meant to invoke that", this is a very, very rough coincidence. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:22, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
::::Ya know, actually, the more I look at that picture the more I find myself agreeing with you guys. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 22:36, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::So can we just remove that sentence once and for all?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:09, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm fine with it, I withdraw my contention.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 23:26, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
== face? ==
in triage, megatron told knockout to fix soundwaves "faceplate", does this mean soundwave actually has a face underneath his screen, or was megatron abusinghis ability to ignore proper grammar? {{Unsigned|Soundwaveflya}}
:Could just as easily mean that it's a plate that serves as Soundwave's face. Also, in future, sign your talk page posts by typing four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 05:19, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
wait, I was going from memory before, just rechecked and its visor, not faceplate, but I guess unless he either takes off the helmet (if their is one)or its referred to by either producers or in universe characters, the whole argument becomes pretty pointless [[User:Soundwaveflya|Soundwaveflya]] 07:28, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

== There something familiar about his Prime character model... ==
Lets see here, no face, long arms that almost touch the ground, long tenticles and chosing not to speak (well until recently) AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS? Is his entire character not based off Slenderman? Even his vehicle mode screams stalker. His presence in an area is just ominous. I mean it can't be coincidence, should we include this under notes? Does anyone agree with me? [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 12:39, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
:I've seen this comparison drawn before, but it's almost certainly a coincidence. Slender Man was only created 17 months prior to TFP's TV debut, and didn't blow up into a major internet phenomena until well after that. The tentacles are very obviously derived from live-action films Soundwave, anyway. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:25, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
::Jalaguy, you said "Slender Man was only created 17 months prior to TFP's TV debut, and didn't blow up into a major internet phenomena until well after that." By well after that were you refering to a time somewhere around the airing of a [[Predatory|suspicious looking episode]]? [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 22:24, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::If anything, the atmosphere of that was Predator, not Slenderman.
:::Which I'm glad about, Slenderman is fucking scary as hell. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Never heard of this "Slenderman" thing before, but I have to agree that this is just coincidence. Heck, looking at images of Slenderman, it has similarities to all sorts of things from various horror stories, myths, and so on. To me, Slenderman is reminiscent of the silent guys from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Hush". Basically, there's just not enough that is distinctive to Slenderman alone to make this a reference to him. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:32, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::And besides, Soundwave is not a supernatural guy trying to kill you in a forest. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

== WFC/FOC Visor ==
I noticed some confusion about soundwave's visor. To be clear in WFC it is yellow in-game and red in concept art. In FOC it is red throughout the game with the exception of a brief scene in Chapter 3: When optimus is captured and metroplex squashes megatron, his visor is yellow. However in the cutscene afterwards (and the rest of the game)it is red again. [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 22:46, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

:The visor color in FOC has always been red, the shifts of color is to honor the cartoon which featured a red visor, the yellow one for the toy. [[User:SnipinScientist]] 24 August 2013

Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2013-08-24T08:41:31Z

SnipinScientist: /* WFC/FOC Visor */

== Triple Changer? ==

Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Image ==

I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

==Cybertron Adventures==

Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]

== Other Figures ==

Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

What about the new Legion Class Soundwave. Mold wise it's clearly DOTM Soundwave, but the packaging is for the Prime line with his Prime Bio on the back. [[User:helli0n|helli0n]] 21:27, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:I don't know much about the bio on the back but the front of the packaging omits the Prime name just like it does for Mirage and Evac. They wouldn't leave them out if they were blatantly meant to be Prime toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:45, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== Voice Actor ==

If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)

== Quote ==

Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.

"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}

==toy picture==

It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/

It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.

==Shockwave (DOTM)==

Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)

== Season 2 ==
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)
This topic is rendered moot. {{unsigned|Seriousrunner2|13:12, 15 November 2012 (EST)}}

== Go-Box ==

His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)

== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==

The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

:No, that's just a coincidence. (and really, he doesn't look anything like Laserbeak.)--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 09:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)
::Not like Laserbeak, but still very much a bird. The "'''Talon''' Grapple Cannon" even hangs below him like a bird's claws.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:45, 26 March 2013 (EDT)

== "Canons" ==

Someone might want to go correct that in the Prime toy's mention of the Takara release.

== Soundblaster ==

Should'nt we add the Soundblaster and Buzzsaw repaint of the Fall of Cybertron Soundwave toy to the page?

== RID Soundwave's arms ==

I just got a deluxe Soundwave the other day, and noticed that mine has an... ''interesting'' use of plastic in the parts of the arms that fold out with the hands on them: On his right arm, this piece is cast in a slightly flexible, but still rigid, plastic (''a la'' Wheeljack's swords), yet on the left arm, it's that annoying soft plastic. Did I get a factory reject, or is this a common curiosity? If all (or even multiple) figures have them, I think it ought to be mentioned on the page.
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 02:15, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

:Managed to compare my Hasbro and TakaraTomy Soundwaves. The Hasbro version features slightly more rigid a plastic head, arms, tail-fins, nose, and Laserbeak wings, while the TakaraTomy version has soft rubbery ones. Interesting. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 06:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
::Mine's the Hasbro version. The nose and heels are soft, but they're just in between the two arms in terms of harness, whereas the head seems to match the right arm. The left arm is just weird, though. It's the only part that's made of a plastic ''that soft''. This isn't something that one would have to compare two figures to notice. It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 23:58, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
:::Mine's the same way. I think it must be a more common malfunction or material swap or something. Not really sure.
:::--[[User:Dreadwing47|Decepticon Dreadwing, Megatron's loyal servant.]] 20:15, 26 January 2013 (EST)

== Soundwave's blasters ==

Should something be added about FoC Soundwave's handheld blaster? It's identical to G1 Prime's Ion Blaster, although it was omitted in the first run of FOC Soundwaves released in Australia (possibly all of them, but we don't know for sure)?[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 15:19, 5 November 2012 (EST)
This is common knowledge and the similarity is already noted, the accesory was ommited entirely for cost cutting reasons.
[[User:Grimlock140|Grimlock140]] 19:10, 13 December 2012 (EST)

== Beast Hunters toy ==

Arms folding in, looks like I've been mistransforming him. Sorry about that.

Also, in regards the feet it seems I goofed there too; I meant the heels, which become the nose in vehicle mode. I don't think those were rubber on the original toy.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 09:47, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
: The rubberized sections [[#RID Soundwave's arms|varied]] on the original figure, so it could stand that this Soundwave would also have plastic differences that would vary per figure. For example, my BH Soundwave has a nose made of more rigid plastic, just like my PRiD Hasbro Soundwave. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 10:13, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
::Regarding the colors, while its not in the same placement (yellow chest and blue body) as the G1 character (or possibly the Cybertron version), it ''is'' pretty much the same shades, and it's hard to believe that they released a Soundwave with colors closer to the original archetype on ''accident''. I mean, we're not requiring explicit statements from the engineers to detail the homages on BH Bulkhead or Ratchet.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:52, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Is it the same shades? G1 Soundwave was typically a much darker blue, and had gold accents, not bright yellow ones. Plus if they were deliberately going for a G1 homage, why would the deco artist throw in a bunch of that metallic brown too? Count me as a vote against it being an homage. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 19:46, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Jalaguy basically just made my argument. Some color and design homages are obvious, but this one is arguable.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 21:16, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::Sorry, but I'm rapidly coming to the opinion that people don't know what an "homage" is. It is not "kinda sorta if you squint reminds you of something". A G1 Soundwave homage would be FAR more coherent a layout and, given Hasbro's preferences, ''toy-based'' look. This has a vague resemblance at best. ''Not everything is a reference or homage. Sometimes it's just a coincidence.'' And barring a designer saying "Why yes I deliberately meant to invoke that", this is a very, very rough coincidence. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:22, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
::::Ya know, actually, the more I look at that picture the more I find myself agreeing with you guys. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 22:36, 26 March 2013 (EDT)
:::::So can we just remove that sentence once and for all?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:09, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
::::::I'm fine with it, I withdraw my contention.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 23:26, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
== face? ==
in triage, megatron told knockout to fix soundwaves "faceplate", does this mean soundwave actually has a face underneath his screen, or was megatron abusinghis ability to ignore proper grammar? {{Unsigned|Soundwaveflya}}
:Could just as easily mean that it's a plate that serves as Soundwave's face. Also, in future, sign your talk page posts by typing four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 05:19, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
wait, I was going from memory before, just rechecked and its visor, not faceplate, but I guess unless he either takes off the helmet (if their is one)or its referred to by either producers or in universe characters, the whole argument becomes pretty pointless [[User:Soundwaveflya|Soundwaveflya]] 07:28, 2 April 2013 (EDT)

== There something familiar about his Prime character model... ==
Lets see here, no face, long arms that almost touch the ground, long tenticles and chosing not to speak (well until recently) AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THIS? Is his entire character not based off Slenderman? Even his vehicle mode screams stalker. His presence in an area is just ominous. I mean it can't be coincidence, should we include this under notes? Does anyone agree with me? [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 12:39, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
:I've seen this comparison drawn before, but it's almost certainly a coincidence. Slender Man was only created 17 months prior to TFP's TV debut, and didn't blow up into a major internet phenomena until well after that. The tentacles are very obviously derived from live-action films Soundwave, anyway. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:25, 10 July 2013 (EDT)
::Jalaguy, you said "Slender Man was only created 17 months prior to TFP's TV debut, and didn't blow up into a major internet phenomena until well after that." By well after that were you refering to a time somewhere around the airing of a [[Predatory|suspicious looking episode]]? [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 22:24, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::If anything, the atmosphere of that was Predator, not Slenderman.
:::Which I'm glad about, Slenderman is fucking scary as hell. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
::::Never heard of this "Slenderman" thing before, but I have to agree that this is just coincidence. Heck, looking at images of Slenderman, it has similarities to all sorts of things from various horror stories, myths, and so on. To me, Slenderman is reminiscent of the silent guys from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Hush". Basically, there's just not enough that is distinctive to Slenderman alone to make this a reference to him. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:32, 12 July 2013 (EDT)
:::::And besides, Soundwave is not a supernatural guy trying to kill you in a forest. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

== WFC/FOC Visor ==
I noticed some confusion about soundwave's visor. To be clear in WFC it is yellow in-game and red in concept art. In FOC it is red throughout the game with the exception of a brief scene in Chapter 3: When optimus is captured and metroplex squashes megatron, his visor is yellow. However in the cutscene afterwards (and the rest of the game)it is red again. [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 22:46, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

The visor color in FOC has always been red, the shifts of color is to honor the cartoon which featured a red visor, the yellow one for the toy. [[User:SnipinScientist]] 24 August 2013

Prey (episode)

2013-04-07T20:48:30Z

SnipinScientist:

{{disambig3|Prey}}
{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 55
|prev=Scattered
|next=Rebellion (Prime)
|image=Prey-PredakingWheeljack.jpg
|caption=''How to Train Your Predacon''
|title="Prey"
|airdate=[[March 15]], [[2013]] (Singapore) [[April 5]], 2013 (USA)
|written by=[[Marsha Griffin]]
|directed by=[[Todd Waterman]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''A new Autobot arrives just as the Decepticons unleash the ultimate hunter.'''

==Synopsis==

[[File:Prey-MegatronShockwavePredaking.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"Such primal magnificence, but Shockwave... is he toilet-trained?"]]

[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] reveals the [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] he's cloned in his laboratory. [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] is impressed, and as the scientist gives the Predacon a whiff of [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]'s energon, announces that the hunt has begun.

[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], Wheeljack and [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] scope out an energon mine, planning to blow it up to hopefully draw the attention of nearby Autobots, while in the ''[[Harbinger]]'', [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]], [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] and [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] work on getting the ship systems up and running. On a deserted road, [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] introduces [[Jack Darby|Jack]] to [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]], who has followed the Omega beam to Earth. Jack is discouraged by the fact that Ultra Magnus's sensors have only picked up five out of seven Autobots, but Arcee reminds him that the sensors wouldn't pick up shielded Autobots.

[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] heads into [[Darkmount (Earth)|Darkmount]] to find the [[Forge of Solus Prime]] and figures it may have been stored within the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]''. Using the [[phase shifter]], he moves through the ship and eventually stumbles onto the vault where both [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] and the Forge are being stored.

Wheeljack and Bulkhead finish planting explosives in the mine, but as they prepare to detonate, they spot the incoming Predacon. After dodging its initial blast of flame, they try to counterattack, and Wheeljack is knocked flying by the thing's tail. Bulkhead belts the creature shortly before it attacks him with a blast of flame, sending him flying. They quickly realise it's after Wheeljack, who lures it over a grenade. The beast is unscathed by the explosion, so Wheeljack instead leads it into the energon mine before speeding out and setting off the explosions. The dust barely has time to settle before the creature digs its way out. As the Wreckers prepare to fight, Ultra Magnus's ship streaks into view, striking the Predacon with its cannons and picking the trio up. Though a joyous reunion ensues, the ship's still being pursued. His ship's engine is damaged in the chase, and the creature manages to catch up and cling to the hull. Bringing the ship into a narrow canyon, Magnus scraps the Predacon off using a rocky outcropping.

[[William Fowler|Fowler]] gets another call he thinks is from Megatron, but this time it's Ratchet, who has hacked into the Decepticon frequencies. Ratchet doesn't have any news of Jack for [[June Darby|June]], but before he can tell them much else, Bumblebee interrupts the call. Running outside, they find Ultra Magnus's ship landing, and more reunions take place.

[[Image:Prey-Autobots.jpg|right|thumb|300px|...And remember, it's "Ultra Magnus, ''SIR''".]]

The Predacon returns empty-handed to Darkmount, and Starscream reflects that it's a pity the creature can't tell them what went wrong. It responds by quietly growling.

Ratchet reports that the ''Harbinger'' [[GroundBridge]] is fully operational. The group of Autobots is soon joined by Fowler and Jack's mom. They wonder where Smokescreen's gotten to, as all the Autobot traces Magnus could detect are now accounted for. Regardless, they prepare to fight back against Megatron without either of the missing Autobots—Ultra Magnus assumes command and takes the other Autobots to equip themselves with weapons.

Smokescreen drags the Forge back to the cavern where Optimus is sheltered, but Optimus insists the Forge's power is limited and must be conserved to repair the Omega Lock. Smokescreen points out that if Optimus dies, there won't be a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] to work the Forge, but Optimus says it's time for a new leader, and believes Smokescreen is it.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (8)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (9)
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (12)
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (13)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (15)
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] (16)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (17)
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (22)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (1)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (2)
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (3)
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (4)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s (5)
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] (6)
*[[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] (7)
*[[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] (18)
*[[Decepticon Miner]]s (19)

|c3=
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (10)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (11)
*[[Jack Darby]] (14)
*[[William Fowler]] (20)
*[[June Darby]] (21)

}}

==Quotes==
'''Miko''': A dragon?! Where did the 'Cons get a dragon?! 
''[Bulkhead and Wheeljack look at each other]'' 
'''Bulkhead and Wheeljack''': What's a dragon? 
'''Miko''': Giant, flying, fire-breathing lizard!
:— Mythology 101 with the [[Wrecker]]s.

"Yes! Snuff the Tragic Dragon!"
:—'''Miko''' making a funny quip.

"What is it ''now'', "Lord" Megatron?"
:—'''Agent Fowler''' must be getting a LOT of calls from Megatron.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
* Megatron's forearm seems to go through his shoulder armor during the scene where the Decepticons discuss Predaking's failure.

===Continuity errors===
* Ratchet claims that Smokescreen departed the base in "[[Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour]]" to coordinates that only Optimus knows of. Yet, it was Ratchet who set the coordinates each time someone went through the GroundBridge, so he should know where each team member was sent.
* In "[[Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration]]", Optimus claimed that recreating the Omega Keys was beyond his skill. Unless repairing an existing object doesn't require such skill, it seems even less likely that he or any Autobot given Prime status would be capable of repairing the far more complex device they were intended to operate. For that matter, it seems likely the keys themselves were destroyed in the blast.
* In the novel Exodus, Ultra Magnus was said to be the founder and leader of the wreckers, yet Wheeljack disagrees with his decision of making him the leader of Team Prime.

===Continuity notes===
*Both Airachnid and the Forge were found in the remains of the Autobot base back in "[[Darkmount, NV]]".
*The [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] can be briefly seen in a containment field over Smokescreen's shoulder after he gets spooked by Airachnid. Evidently the Decepticons recovered it sometime between "Darkmount, NV" and this episode.

===Transformers references===
*Taking note of Bumblebee's inverted paint job, Arcee comments that doing the same in her case would render her mostly pink, the dominant color for virtually every other version of [[Arcee (disambiguation)|Arcee]] (not to mention her own ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]]'' body design).

===Real-world references===
*When Miko believes the explosion of the energon mine set off by Bulkhead and Wheeljack has successfully destroyed [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], she shouts "Snuff the Tragic Dragon"; a play on the words of the song "Puff the Magic Dragon" by Peter, Paul, and Mary.

===Trivia===
*The worldwide premiere screening of the first three episodes was held at the Globe Theater in Universal Studios Hollywood on [[March 14]].
*The worldwide television premiere of "Prey" was a day later on okto, a Singaporean channel, where it aired back-to-back with "[[Darkmount, NV]]" and "[[Scattered]]".

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Talk:Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)

2012-06-01T19:24:13Z

SnipinScientist:

I think we should put some sources for the character roster. I could get started on it, if that's necessary. I hadn't heard about Metroplex being in it, only from rumors that Matt Tieger said it somewhere. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:07, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
::It's in this month's Game Informer.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:17, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah. Well, I'll try to get started on the sourcing, and any help would be appreciated. :D --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:30, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

== Blast-Off ==

About 1:10 in to the trailer to the top right corner of Megatron there in a Decepticon that looks like a space shuttle does that confirmed
blast-off--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:20, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: There are so many Blast Offs across the fiction (including a goshdarn tank!) that we have no way of knowing who or what it really is. (Astrotrain, Sky Lynx, etc). [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:23, 17 December 2011 (EST)
You dont have to be rude I was just asking a question and by the way why would it be Sky Lynx.--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:32, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: How was I rude? And it's just as possible that it ''could'' be Sky Lynx. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:40, 17 December 2011 (EST)
Name one Autobot in WFC/FOC with purple lightings Sky Lynx is an AUTOBOT with RED lightings and that shuttle was shown at lest 5 sec bruticus was formed and that shuttles design can be seen on his left arm--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:48, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: OK, OK. I was just trying to make a point. No need to start capslockjawing on me. Anyways, the thing is is that we don't know it's Blast Off for sure, because we've had no official confirmation on it. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:57, 17 December 2011 (EST)
Thank you thats all I wanted to know.--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 17:01, 17 December 2011 (EST)

== Yay! ==

You guys are great for getting everything organized. :) Also, where was it mentioned that Arcee would be in the game? I'm removing it until we can get some sourcing. I'm also pretty sure Matt Tieger said there would be no females. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 12:02, 29 December 2011 (EST)

== Dinobots - FOC or Prime disambiguation ==

The Dinobots were mentioned in Grimlock's Hall of Fame bio, so their existence predates Fall of Cybertron - there's a link to "Dinobot (Prime)" on the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. Is that mention enough to override the FOC parenthetical or should we amend the LSC link? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:26, 26 January 2012 (EST)

== Jazz voice ==

I think [[John DiMaggio]] was confirmed to voice Jazz in Fall of Cybertron.
Plus we heard his voice a while back, it sounds a lot like him.

--[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 09:23, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

== PC ==

Attention, the facebook page of Fall Of Cybertron has officially announced that Fall Of Cybertron would be on PC, and be released at the same dates as the other two platforms.
--[[SnipinScientist]] 1 June 2012

Talk:Flying Mind

2012-04-29T19:35:35Z

SnipinScientist:

I found a different description for the episode that is pretty much the same except it says the Nemesis becomes sentient. Shouldn't the description be changed on here?

==''Nemesis'' or Trypticon?==
So is the speaking thing supposed to be Trypticon, or the ''Nemesis''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s computer? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:43, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
:It's left open to interpretation. The intelligence is not named or explained in any way, and is credited as "Warship". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:12, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

==Voice actor==
Who voices the ''Nemesis'' anyway?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.166.246|71.255.166.246]] 23:54, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
:Kevin Michael Richardson. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:12, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

==Soundwave==
Soundwave also shows signs of sentience, since the beginning he has only showed his opposition to Airachnid's command back in Orion Pax.
Now, when Trypticon ( or the Nemesis ) gave Megs a headache just like Unicron did, and Megatron said to regain control of the vessel, Soundwave acts weirdly, he tries to set things back quickly, as opposed to everything he has done before, he does everything smoothly and without any hurrying.
Does this need to be pointed ?
--[[User:SnipinScientist]] , 29 April 2012

==Dark Energon==
Since Unicron has been killed, neutralised to vapor, whatever, shouldn't Dark Energon be useless ? And Why did they stop searching for other deposits and using it ? --[[User:SnipinScientist]] , 29 April 2012

Talk:Nemesis Prime (episode)

2012-04-08T13:48:24Z

SnipinScientist:

== Extending protection period ==

Is there any chance we can delay unprotection for a week after it airs so we can avoid the inevitable glut of anons adding dumb crap? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:45, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
:I second that. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 18:05, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
::I disagree! Not all anon contributions are bad, and the Crossfire page would be a lot barer without them. Also, we're a wiki "that anyone can edit or add to" according to our own main page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:38, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

== Trivia Change (spoiler warning) ==

"No Decepticons appear in this episode"

What do you call Breakdown's body, then?
:Whoops, forgot about that. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 21:23, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
::Technically he's not a Decepticon any more! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:36, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::That is true.... -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 09:07, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::How about: "No ''living'' Decepticons appear in this episode"? -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 09:39, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
== Military base ==

Can someone with the closed captions available grab the name of the military base Nemesis attacks partway through? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:01, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

== Physics much? ==

Um hey guys, I think the writers of Transformers prime ignored the forces of physics in this episode. When Fowlers car dropped and Bulkhead jumped after it, Bulkhead hit the ground first and caught the sedan with a wait period of about 1 minute or so from jump to landing. Now my father is an astro physicist for NASA and i spoke to him about this (even showed him the episode) and he said that all physical dynamics was thrown out the window. Objects dropped at different times will land at different times. Meaning Fowlers car should have landed first regardless of how heavy Bulkhead is. This is because weight doesn't affect the acceleration of an object being dropped. Like the feather and the bowling ball, if dropped at the same time, will land at the same time. The only way that scenario can change is if you factor in the variable of wind resistance, and in the case of the feather and the bowling ball, then yes, the feather would experience more wind resistance and fall after the bowling ball, which would experience less. This is because of mass, and the shape of the object. (I.E is it aerodynamic or not?) However both Fowlers car and the obviously bulky Blulkhead both have obscured non-aerodynamic shapes and great mass (Bulkhead having slightly more mass) their wind resistance would be close to absolutely similar. My father (the astrophysicist) having seen the episode and Bulkheads size versus the car still believed that their wind resistance would be very similar and have little affect on the outcome of the fall. (Like seeing a Simi versus a Sedan fall out of a plane, the Sedan would still land first, therefor so should Fowlers car.) The fact that Bulkhead landed first with ENOUGH TIME to catch Fowlers sedan is just... impossible.

Can we add something about this phenomenon under the technical errors tab? --[[User:Arcee-Cola|Arcee-Cola]] 1:20, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:Yes, that sequence totally ignored the laws of physics, no question. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:46, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

:: Thanks, glad I and my physics-minded father could help out. You know, maybe if Bulkhead had some serious alien tech-like gravity boots or due-ex-machina whathaveyou, then maybe, maaaaybe, the ridiculousness could obscure the obvious middle finger to illimitable laws of physics. Take that Sir Isaac Newton! --[[User:Arcee-Cola|Arcee-Cola]] 2:15, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

== Knockoff ==

It is the second time a cartoon character mentions one's clone is a knockoff, the first time was Megatron saying that starscream was hiding behind an army of cheap knockoffs. Should we add that ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]] 8 April 2012

Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2012-02-18T12:27:02Z

SnipinScientist: /* toy picture */

Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2012-02-18T12:26:27Z

SnipinScientist:

Talk:The Transformers: Robots in Disguise

2012-01-07T06:40:23Z

SnipinScientist: New page: How comes it's the G1 characters using WFC bodies on the cover ?

How comes it's the G1 characters using WFC bodies on the cover ?