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Talk:Personal canon

2013-10-20T03:15:35Z

SoundWave:

:I am so disappointed that no Transformer has an 'anti-personnel cannon' we can disambig this with. Missiles, mines, shredders-- but no anti-personnel cannons.
:So sad. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

This article is soo not-condescending enough, it totally breaks the theme all our other fandom articles have, and whats worse is that personal cannon is more deserving of ridicule

: Except that there is nothing inherently wrong or bad about personal canon as a concept. Just because some people have ridiculous personal canons doesn't mean EVERY personal canon is. Oscar Wilde is dead, but not all dead people are Oscar Wilde.
: The problem becomes when people substitute personal canon for actual canon in arguments, discussions and informative articles. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:Also, *every fan* has a personal canon. It is impossible to avoid. One cannot consume any story without constructing an internal mental representation of what happened, what things mean, etc.. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Is that you, X-Bob? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Why does my request keep getting removed without answer? Am I breaking a rule, or something? If I am, sorry, I was just trying to make a simple request, you could always just say no. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 23:15, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Fanon

2013-10-20T03:05:36Z

SoundWave:

:"Fanon is a so-called "fact" that a fan thinks is true, but for which there is no evidence in any official material. A piece of fanon may be a belief held by just a single fan, or a belief which is widespread due to having been discussed and picked up by other fans."

See, I thought it had to be widespread to qualify as "actual fanon" in the first place... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

:You'd think. A thing that just one person believes isn't fanon, it's just fanfic. Fanon, to me, implies that there's a general degree of acceptance, or at least knowledge, of the belief. The Raksha-style view of the Decepticons is widespread enough to be fanon. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

After looking at the Drift and Squadron X pages, I realized that the Wiki doesn't have a place where "Fanwank" is properly described. I was thinking that this article would be improved by adding the definition, but was wondering what those funnier and wiser than I thought. Should Fanwank go here? Get it's own article? Remain undefined? What? -[[User:Gearbox|Gearbox]]

What exactly is the difference between "fanon" and "personal canon"? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 22:32, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:You don't actually read things, do you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:58, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: I asked for an answer, not your rudeness. I read both articles, and they seem very similar. Now could someone please answer legitimately? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 23:05, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Personal canon

2013-10-20T03:03:42Z

SoundWave: Undo revision 832554 by ItsWalky (Talk)

:I am so disappointed that no Transformer has an 'anti-personnel cannon' we can disambig this with. Missiles, mines, shredders-- but no anti-personnel cannons.
:So sad. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

This article is soo not-condescending enough, it totally breaks the theme all our other fandom articles have, and whats worse is that personal cannon is more deserving of ridicule

: Except that there is nothing inherently wrong or bad about personal canon as a concept. Just because some people have ridiculous personal canons doesn't mean EVERY personal canon is. Oscar Wilde is dead, but not all dead people are Oscar Wilde.
: The problem becomes when people substitute personal canon for actual canon in arguments, discussions and informative articles. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:Also, *every fan* has a personal canon. It is impossible to avoid. One cannot consume any story without constructing an internal mental representation of what happened, what things mean, etc.. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Is that you, X-Bob? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Can I add "Bayformers never existed" to the list? And why did this get reverted? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 22:30, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Fanon

2013-10-20T02:32:37Z

SoundWave:

Talk:Personal canon

2013-10-20T02:30:22Z

SoundWave:

:I am so disappointed that no Transformer has an 'anti-personnel cannon' we can disambig this with. Missiles, mines, shredders-- but no anti-personnel cannons.
:So sad. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

This article is soo not-condescending enough, it totally breaks the theme all our other fandom articles have, and whats worse is that personal cannon is more deserving of ridicule

: Except that there is nothing inherently wrong or bad about personal canon as a concept. Just because some people have ridiculous personal canons doesn't mean EVERY personal canon is. Oscar Wilde is dead, but not all dead people are Oscar Wilde.
: The problem becomes when people substitute personal canon for actual canon in arguments, discussions and informative articles. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:Also, *every fan* has a personal canon. It is impossible to avoid. One cannot consume any story without constructing an internal mental representation of what happened, what things mean, etc.. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:Is that you, X-Bob? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Personal canon is awesome, can I add "Bayformers never existed" to the list? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 22:30, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Knock Out (Prime)

2013-10-19T22:27:02Z

SoundWave: /* On a COMPLETELY different topic... */

[[Image:DeusExMachina-Knockout.jpg|right|thumb]]

Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
:I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --[[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his [[Breakdown (WFC)|Partner]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
:::::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::"You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of ''those''" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== GAY? ==

That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:You are inappropriate for children. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
: What a great birthday present, this person. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least ''acting'' as if he's homosexual.[[Special:Contributions/98.222.213.161|98.222.213.161]] 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

== On a COMPLETELY different topic... ==

Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
: I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
isn't it notable that he has no insignia? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:27, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

== EDIT ==
I edited out the part in notes claiming the Botcon comment was "unintentionally insulting" because someone's personal feelings on the matter of a joke does not belong in a wiki, even the TFwiki. Please, do not put in your personal feelings on a subject when this is meant to be objectively informative and not an opinionated exposition. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:This isn't "personal feelings". Comparing homosexuality to a glitch ''is'' insulting to homosexuals, regardless of whether or not the comment was intentionally insulting. It certainly seems more like your personal feelings on the matter are what's making you remove it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:00, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::You are viewing it as your opinion that it is insulting. My personal feelings on the matter are not what is making me remove it, it is the fact that your opinions on what you make the comment out to be are leaking into the entry, where it does not belong. There is no need to say that it is an insulting comment, because it is not. It was not meant to be insulting, and the only way things can be "unintentionally insulting" is when you use your personal feelings and views to interpret a comment. Again, wiki articles should be objective, and it is your personal opinion that it was insulting. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::Please pick up a dictionary and look up the definition of '''''unintentional'''''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I am well aware of what the word "unintentional" means, but you are making it out as an insult, intentional or not, when it is not meant as such in any regard. Again, it is you viewing and interpreting the comment through your own opinions and feelings which makes it insulting in any regard, and it is, yet again, not something worth contributing to any wiki article. It is but one phrase that the article can do without. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::::'''Words mean things'''. To compare homosexuality to a glitch IS insulting, regardless of whether it was intended or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:16, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::[http://genderbitch.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/intent-its-fucking-magic/ Intent! It's friggin' magic.] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:53, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::A glitch caused a ''robot'' to be homosexual-ish. On a scale of shocking statements, that... doesn't seem all that shocking, honestly. If he were human it would be one thing, but he's a robot. It would be like if a glitch in the AllSpark caused a robot to crave pizza, or wear pants, or any number of things robots don't ordinarily do. Not really an insult to pizza lovers and pants wearers. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 03:47, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::::You cannot simply divorce a statement from its real world context just because it's about a fictional robot. "Pizza lovers" and "pants wearers" do not face discrimination, bigotry, and hatred. Your comparison is absurd. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:22, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::The context ''is'' fictional robots. Applying it to the real world would be ''taking it out of context''. That's just how "context" works. They talked about how there was no "gay" or "straight" on Cybertron, then, in order to explain Knock Out's otherwise unexplainable behavior (because there is no gay or straight on Cybertron), they said a glitch in the AllSpark did it. [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:53, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::No, the ''context'' is the systemic oppression of.... eh, never mind you clearly don't get it at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:31, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::This is an article on Knock Out, not an article on the semantics of what was said and what wasn't said. This isn't a critique on the perceived injustices or political incorrectness of a Botcon panel, this is about Knock Out. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant to the page's content.[[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::::::I'm sorry, but TFWiki ''is'' about pointing out these sorts of things, be they [[Denton J. Tipton|editors blaming gaffes on fans]] or [[Pat Lee|unscrupulous business practices]] or, yes, comments that turn out unintentionally insulting.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:31, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:If I said "There was a glitch in the AllSpark the day that Fred was created", Fred would be more then justified to treat that as an insult. I don't see why this is any different. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:45, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
: So if I said "God had a bad case of the squirty-shits the day Mangytron was born", that wouldn't be insulting? Good to know! (And yes, the "glitch" quote IS insulting.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:35, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:You are all taking this entirely out of context. The TFwiki should be objective and abstain from personal feelings and comments. The articles should not reflect the author's opinions, but simply the content. If you are going to insult me because I am trying to be objective and have some level of quality, then that is very childish of you, considering I have done nothing of the sort. Again, that comment is reflected solely on opinion and not fact. That is the end of this asinine discussion. The TFwiki is about Transformers, not commentary on socially offensive jokes or phrases expressed through a Botcon panel joke. Keep that on TF message boards. The Wiki is not your soapbox. That is all. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 22:22, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::I'm sorry, but considering the Wiki's moderators (abates and M Sipher) are disagreeing with you, I'd say you're not in any position to say what the Wiki is and isn't for. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:26, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::I do very much enjoy the redlinked newcomer lecturing the admin what the site is all about. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I know the fandom is big now and all but jesus, it's like, the posters here are Sipher and Walky and frickin' me, and you're all YOU SHOULDN'T BE POSTING OPINIONS AND STUFF ON ARTICLES motherfucker why do you think we took over this thing in the first place? WE ARE HERE TO GRIND OUR AXES. GRINDY GRINDY GRINDY. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 22:49, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::You're several years and 13,451 articles too late to try and dictate what this wiki is and isn't, which makes your claims of lack of context all the funnier. Also, "some level of quality" has not remotely been proven on your part, inasmuch the ''only'' thing you've done here is get in an edit war and try and tell everyone what we ''should'' be doing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:09, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

I guess I'm a glitch! (So not helping, am I?) Let's all back off and breathe a bit. No matter what we say, someone somewhere is going to get offended. [[User:AUGH AUGH AUGH|AUGH AUGH AUGH]] 01:52, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

This is all a rather silly issue, particularly given how informal this wiki is and always has been. Leave it as is, and if you disagree, get over it. Go have some ice cream. It should cheer you up. [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 03:36, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

[http://rockdown.tumblr.com/post/6513500039/if-i-could-have-the-transformers-fandoms-attention-for I think this is the living definition of "crying some more".] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:54, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:The first comment being "They're faggots!" really brings this all home, doesn't it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:58, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:All I'm getting from that is "MY HIVEMIND IS BETTER THAN YOURS! NYAH NYAH NYAH-NYAH!". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:07, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:Ahhh. Hilarity. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:27, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:Gaybashing: it's not just for the neurotypical anymore. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:06, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::And since Chris opened the gateways, I ended up finding Mangrytron's topic that led him here to kick up a storm. [http://doodlebob.tumblr.com/post/6503456665/darthshadow-when-asked-at-botcon-2011-the My favorite line has to be "Do you seriously all have nothing better to do than whine about the most inane of issues and act as if that’s the reason The Man is holdin’ you all down?".] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:42, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:lol you guys went through the trouble to find my tumblr blog and act as if i'm gaybashing or something else entirely retarded like that. i didn't insult you, i didn't attack you, and you're all going apeshit over nothing. stay classy TF fandom. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:00, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::We will. And you can stay 15. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:06, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::Wow, you telling US to stay classy? Anyone who refers to someone as a "nasty fat fanc**t" has lost their right to tell someone else to stay classy. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:09, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::protip: that wasn't me who said it but [http://rockdown.tumblr.com a friend of mine], but go ahead and get angry at the words being said. That's all any of you seem to be doing; getting angry over words that hold no weight or mean anything at all. Really, you're insulting me, going out of your way to say I'm gaybashing and implying I'm homophobic because I say a wiki should be an objective source of information and not a place to voice your opinions. That's how all GOOD Wikis are run, but none of you are concerned about being good, you're just concerned about voicing your loud and rather inane opinions. Calm your asses down and realize that I haven't attacked anyone; the only one who is attacking anyone is you guys. Or don't calm down and continue on. It's really, really funny. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:15, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::We haven't insulted you, our words hold no weight or meaning. If you choose to be offended by them, that's your problem. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:20, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::I'm not offended by it, I just thought I'd point out the fact you're all trying to paint me in a light where I'm some homophobic, uncaring, gaybasher is really immature, especially when I did no such thing to any of you from the get-go. The funny thing is, I'm not even straight. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:28, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::You'd be surprised just how many homophobes aren't straight. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:32, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::Good for you. As a gay person, I'm still calling you socially dense and immature. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that subtle homophobia doesn't exist and that words have "no weight or mean anything at all", feel free to do so and leave the rest of us alone. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:37, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to echo Interrobang's comments. Also, the best part is all that drama over on tumblr will do nothing but net TFWiki more page visits and more free publicity. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:59, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::That's like being one of those people who says, "I'm not racist! I have lots of black friends!" It doesn't help your case. I know this whole thing has been retreaded to hell and back, but I felt necessary to put in my two cents on the matter. The initial statement they made at Botcon was cute; about the Decepticons having a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy. That's funny, and avoids addressing the issue without making anyone feel uncomfortable. The follow-up, on the other hand, is a slap, because it means that any characters that exhibit that behavior (be it actual homorobosexualism or just narcissism to an nth degree) are a MISTAKE. Which means that their personality traits are a MISTAKE. And I'm sorry, that just doesn't sit well, regardless of what personality traits are in question. It's like saying the Allspak glitched when it made Optimus, causing him to be heroic. It doesn't matter if it's decrying homosexuality at that point, it's saying that a character's primary character traits are wrong, and caused by a screw-up in their creation. If you can't see how ''this'' would be insulting, there is no hope for you.

::::::Also, for the record, I for one welcome our homosexual robot overlords. --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 03:48, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually I DON'T see how it is insulting. A "glitch" in the AllSpark is the TF equivalent of a mutation. And homosexuality is a mutation. But so is heterosexuality. And so is sex in general. And blue eyes. And brown hair. And five fingers. And the scent glands of skunks. And the manes of lions. And purple flowers. And photosynthesis. And any other trait with any degree of genetic causation. ALL current lifeforms are mutations, mutation is an "error" or "mistake" in the DNA, therefore ALL lifeforms are mistakes. Glitches, if you will. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:43, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::With all due respect, Khajidha, but you don't know what a mutation is. Or a glitch. Or context. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:50, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::As a biology instructor I should hope I know what a mutation is. But as a teacher, I could probably have phrased my statements better. I was not talking of a trait as a mutation that occurs when each lifeform originates, but of each trait as originating in evolutionary history by means of mutation. The mutation that led to sex occurred hundreds of millions of years ago, but it was a mutation just the same. ALL life is different from the initial life form. In fact, the first self-replicating molecule (lifeform if you will) was RNA based. DNA itself is a change, a mutation, an error, a glitch. To me, the statement that a possible robo-homosexuality is due to a glitch in the AllSpark is the equivalent of saying that human homosexuality is due to a genetic cause (not a choice), and I fail to see how that is something the homosexual community is upset about. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:08, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::A mutation is not a glitch. A glitch is a fault, that results in something not working properly. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:15, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::Which is what a mutation is. The mutated DNA strand does not function the way the original strand did, the way it is "supposed" to work. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:31, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::::Except that a mutation can still create something that works properly. A glitch outright causes an error. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:36, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::Just so everyone knows, the ''context'' is that a glitch caused a giant robot from a planet that doesn't even have "gay" or "straight" to act gay-like. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:51, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::On the barest side of technicality, Khajidha is right and Detour is wrong about mutations being glitches (but not at all to say that the BotCon line wasn't insulting. If you have to say "barely technically", then it should have been phrased better). Any mutation, whether it improves the chances of survival, lowers them, or doesn't effect them, is a glitch in DNA's process. As a reminder, that process is to ''exactly'' transcribe the existing strands. Mutations are not a purposeful, "natural" mechanic of DNA transcription -- DNA transcription doesn't have a "for this part, choose a base pair at random" step. The overwhelming majority of mutations are actually caused by the near-constant damage to DNA that results from base pairs that contain radioactive isotopes undergoing decay; I believe the rate is "6 mutations per second", but that was from one of Asimov's old papers, so it's probably far out-of-date.
:So on the ''barest'' side of the matter, calling it a "glitch" is a perfectly legitimate, not-necessarily-biased way to describe it. However, BotCon really should have realized that the primary way to interpret that is as a glitch in ''Knock-Out'', not the "process of RNA (that's what robots have, right?) transcription", sooo...yeah, it's unintentionally insulting.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::They didn't say "glitches are how every Transformer is made". They said "There was a glitch THAT DAY when Knock Out was made". They're using glitch in the electronics term, not the silly "robotic equivalent of a DNA mutation" way that Khajidha is touting. After all, as he says... mutations happen all the time. But computer glitches are outright error that cause a program not to work properly, or at all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:33, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Oy, really? Then yeah, that's f'd up.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::For reference, I didn't go to any trouble - I just found it when someone who has issues with the wiki posted a link it on Twitter, and even THEY thought you were being ridiculous. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:48, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

== Authoritorial Intent. ==

Was one of the reasons for Knock Out's name change really because Lugnut wasn't sexy enough? Or are we just going with the flow of the article? Because I've never seen the Notes section as a place for joking as such. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:03, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Yes to your first question. Although the claim needs to be sourced. BotCon, I think? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:14, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::I believe it was said at BotCon, yeah. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:17, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

== Question about what side he's on? ==

in the Finale Episode of Season 3 he attempted to switched sides, Miko knocked him out before he got any answer from Optimus Prime, but knowing Prime he more then likely would have said yes (with some guidelines) so is he now an Autobot or at least a "Non-Aligned" Transformer? [[User:Chasemarc1701|Chasemarc1701]] 19:23, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
:Until we know otherwise, stick with Decepticon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:57, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

My logic: If TFP-Prime can have a little Decepticon symbol at the top of his page for that time he was Orion Pax, then I don't see what the problem is, but just to be sure, we should probably wait until Predacons Rising comes out to confirm his allegiance. {{unsigned|PunchSydeiron|22:20, September 12, 2013 (EDT)}}
:He would have to be admitted into the Autobots as a member. Decepticons have allied themselves with the Autobots in other continuities and remained Decepticons. I'm thinking specifically of the Unicron Trilogy. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:43, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
::And Carnivac from Marvel UK. And Blackarachnia pre-''[[Crossing the Rubicon]]''. And Octane post-''[[Thief in the Night]]''. And... --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:15, 13 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Well If you've now watched "Transformers Prime: Predacons Rising" he fully changed side's to the Autobots, He actual was glad to see Optimus Prime. So his side preference would be Autobots. [[User:Speedy Question Mark|Speedy Question Mark]] 18:23, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
::::The movie's not out until October. Unless you're watching it through less-than-legal means, in which case it'd help to check [[Help:Official info|the Wiki's guidelines regarding leaked stuff]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:26, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:Well, he really does seem to chance sides in Predacons Rising, what with the whole "knocking out Starscream, siding with the Autobots as the last line of defense against Unicron, and the way Optimus praised him for his actions" thing.

MediaWiki talk:Captions

2013-10-19T20:12:13Z

SoundWave:

==Blank captions==
It seems there is a subgroup of anons and others whose primary or only contribution is adding captions to images that don't have any. This might seem harmless enough, but it bugs me nonetheless. If humorous captions are a reward of sorts for hard-working editors, then anons who add nothing else shouldn't be taking away the fodder for that reward.

To that end, I'd propose to all image-adding editors that if you have nothing "funny" to say, then say something informative. An informative caption doesn't have to be "this picture is a picture that is of Megatron"; it can state that this is "The box art painting of Megatron from his original 1984 Generation 1 toy". Maybe it's a little vengeful of me, but I'd rather see that as a placeholder till a regular contributor adds something genuinely worthwhile, instead of whatever some random anon thinks up in five seconds because they're convinced that this gaping void must be filled. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 18:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:I'm down with that. --[[User:M_Sipher|M_Sipher]] 20:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

==Captions without images==
In line with captions being a "reward" of sorts, I think whoever went to the trouble to upload an image get first crack at the caption. There are a couple of [[Transformers Animated (Titan)|captions]] despite not having [[Animated Comic issue 1|images]] yet, which in my opinion is just not cricket. Thoughts? -- [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:35, 4 November 2008 (EST)

::I think that goes without saying, whomever uploads the image gets first go to caption it (unless their caption is deemed to be stupid or offensive or some other reason). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:33, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

==I don't get this==
This "rule" seems pretty pointless to me. It's fun to add amusing captions - so what if you haven't anything "serious" already? Can anyone explain this rule better than on this project page? To be honest, it seems petty - but I'm willing to be proved wrong. --[[User:Grimlockius Prime|Grimlockius Prime]] 05:20, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

:It is petty - if you're not part of the Very Special Group, you're not funny.[[Special:Contributions/24.151.189.19|24.151.189.19]] 21:29, 17 December 2009 (EST)
::You don't like the rules, don't play in the sandbox. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:46, 17 December 2009 (EST)

:Because the main point of this wiki isn't to crack jokes, the main point of this wiki is to provide information about Transformers. People who are contributing useful information use the image captions and similar methods as a ''perk/bonus'' to make their work fun to edit and read, not as an end in and of itself.
:So if you change a caption, you're ruining someone else's "reward" for adding information, and if you're doing nothing but adding jokes, than you're not contributing anything worthwhile that furthers the wiki's actual purpose. Humor is secondary. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 05:57, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks for the reply. I appreciate that someone changing another's caption is infringing on a "perk", but I don't think this is a perk. The perk is getting your text on the wiki and providing quality information. And secondly, if you can provide a funnier joke (and so far I can't), then why not? Everyone benefits. --[[User:Grimlockius Prime|Grimlockius Prime]] 14:22, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Since theoretically anybody can get their writing on the wiki (and assuming it's quality, it stays there), that's not really a perk. I see it as work. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:32, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

==Captions we're tired of==
Could we add "Give me your face" to captions we're tired of, it's way overused? One we start adding pictures of TF4 Optimus, I don't want to see every caption wasted by this. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:12, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

User talk:Escargon

2013-10-19T20:01:27Z

SoundWave:

Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren's never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn't have an English name. Those examples don't work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, "Alexa"). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I've shown with my examples.
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character might be based off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Eh. Whatever, I don't even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I'm not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

Please don't say that being a woman is an insult. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&curid=335&diff=828439&oldid=827733&rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn't sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

User talk:Escargon

2013-10-19T19:59:53Z

SoundWave:

Soundwave (ROTF)

2013-10-19T19:55:04Z

SoundWave: /* Burger King */

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:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Rotf soundwave satellite mode.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Earth beeelooowww us, drifting, falling...]]

'''Soundwave''', the Decepticon communications officer and one of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s staunchest supporters, doesn't just master the frequencies that carry information across our planet, he revels in them. Stationed high in the upper atmosphere and capable of processing millions of data streams at once, he is fully capable of taking over communications on a planetary scale. Whether he uses this to direct civilization or destroy it remains to be seen.

Soundwave has two extremely powerful weapons: his spread of [[sonic cannon]]s... and Megatron. If any Decepticon crosses him, he does not hesitate to send a full record of said Decepticon's failures to Megatron, almost certainly ensuring an untimely demise. His lofty position has made [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] suspicious, so Soundwave has his minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] keep an eye on the [[Air Commander]] if he gets out of hand. Soundwave is also nearly defenseless in space, as his devastating sonic cannons only work within the atmosphere.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Soundwave Battle Bio]</ref>

{{bigquote|Nothing moves on the orb below without '''my''' being aware of it. I see and hear everything, be it out in the open or behind closed doors. My reach is invisible, intangible. My grip...cast-iron.|Soundwave is watching you...|[[Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1]]}}

==Fiction==
===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was in talks with Soundwave to get him to join in the attack on Earth and be in [[Michael Bay]]'s next documentary. Soundwave is known for talking in several frequencies at once, apparently just to be annoying. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|#15's Star Screams}} Starscream doesn't trust Soundwave but notes his intelligence, and so views him as a worthy successor in the event of his death. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|#21's Star Screams}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Thousands of years ago on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Soundwave stood by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s side on Unification Day, when a new era of Cybertronian government was ushered in that saw the planet ruled by two bodies—Megatron's [[Defense Force]], of which Soundwave became a part, and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]]'s [[Science Division]]. Megatron's lust for power soon led him to claim dominion over Optimus, however, and Soundwave was silently present when Megatron summoned Optimus and made this declaration. {{storylink|Foundation issue 2}}

[[Image:Defiance4Soundwave.jpg|thumb|left|100px|No full body shot in the movie or comics.]]

Some time later, Megatron came under the influence of [[The Fallen]], who sought to be freed from the [[sarcophagus]] that was his trans-dimensional prison. To this end, Soundwave was assigned captaincy of the newly built spacecraft ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'', which would take the sarcophagus across the galaxy to find the world on which The Fallen had built a [[Star Harvester]] millennia beforehand. Soundwave and his crew left Cybertron with The Fallen's sarcophagus just before the outbreak of war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}{{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}}

After thousands of years of searching the stars, Soundwave's ''Nemesis'' detected the faint energy signature of the [[AllSpark]], which had been jettisoned from Cybertron in their absence. Unfortunately for them, so did [[Ark (DOTM)|the Ark]], an Autobot spacecraft that had also left Cybertron after the ''Nemesis'' and which was teleporting around space and time via a [[space bridge]]. The Ark materialized partially within the ''Nemesis'', the intersection of their molecules crippled both ships. While the Ark teleported away, leaving a temporary space bridge portal lingering in its wake, the Decepticons managed to set the ''Nemesis'' down on a barren moon. For the first time, The Fallen, recognizing the space bridge as the technology of [[Dynasty of Primes|his people]], spoke directly into Soundwave's mind, directing him to take the Decepticons aboard the smaller ship ''[[Longshot (DOTM)|Longshot]]'' and follow the Ark through the portal. Complying, Soundwave's crew found themselves hurled into the future, appearing in the vicinity of Earth in the year [[1961]] alongside the Ark. The Autobot craft proceeded to crash on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]], and Soundwave quickly determined to keep [[human]]kind from plundering the treasures it contained: mysterious [[pillar]]s that he had his crew set about removing from the ship and stockpiling. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 1}}

Unfortunately for Soundwave, humanity detected the crash of the Ark upon the Moon, and a "space race" began between the [[United States of America]] and the [[Soviet Union]] to be the first to reach the Moon. The Soviets were first to send probes that photographed the moon's surface: in [[1963]], their [[Luna 4]] captured an image of the pillars as they were being moved. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}} Realizing the necessity of infiltrating the ranks of humanity in order to control the flow of data, Soundwave had the [[Alice|Pretender]] kill and replace Spetsnaz agent [[Alisa Morozov]] in [[1964]]; then, in [[1965]], as the Soviets' [[Luna 6]] was in flight, he sent her to [[Soviet Research Station Oktober]] to massacre the scientists awaiting data the probe would send back. Convinced by the Pretender that Humanity could be subverted towards their ends, Soundwave struck a deal with the sole surviving scientist, [[Voskhod]], to curtail further Soviet moon missions. In the process, the Pretender also learned that both America and Russia allegedly had a Cybertronian in their individual custodies, but Soundwave dismissed them as rumors, preferring to focus on the trail of the AllSpark and the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 2}}

[[Image:RisingStorm2 soundwave voskhod.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Soundwave is the master at the beautiful art of photo-bombing.]]

Realizing that a captive American secret agent, [[Bill Simmons]] had escaped from Research Station Oktober during the Pretender's attack, Soundwave spent two months scanning information lines in search of him, eventually discovering him when he returned to North America and made contact with his superiors. Although the Pretender failed to finish him off, Soundwave had at last learned of Simmons's well-hidden organization: [[Sector Seven]]. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 3}} In [[1969]], he monitored the launch of their [[Ghost 1]] craft, believing it to be of greater importance than the [[Apollo 11]] moon mission, but his guess proved incorrect: Thanks to Soundwave's being distracted, astronauts [[Neil Armstrong]] and [[Buzz Aldrin]] were able to carry out the first brief excavation of the Ark. Incensed by his failure, Soundwave grew even more determined to find a mole within the American space program, and he set [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to find prospective candidates. He found a [[NASA]] accountant named Gould and tapped the stock market to provide enough financial persuasion for the human to manipulate the NASA budget to halt moon missions from [[1972]] onwards. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}}

Soundwave spent the rest of the 1970s recruiting more human pawns to prevent the Ark from being rediscovered. Eventually, in [[1979]], deciding that everything was secure, he and his crew departed Earth on the ''Longshot'' to reconvene with The Fallen back aboard the ''Nemesis'', but with no space bridge portal to teleport them, the voyage took something in the vicinity of fourteen years. A brief talk with The Fallen yielded information: in Soundwave's absence, Megatron had visited the ''Nemesis'', on the trail of the AllSpark. Soundwave realized that his leader must have been one of the Cybertronians in captivity on Earth, and immediately departed to return to the planet, putting most of his crew in statis. Before leaving, he presented The Fallen with one of the pillars from the Ark; after he left, The Fallen used it to finally free himself from his sarcophagus. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}}

[[Image:SoundwaveAllianceIssue2.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Alas, poor Dreadwing. I knew him, Ravage.]]

During Soundwave's return voyage to Earth, Decepticon forces under the command of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] had arrived on the planet and freed Megatron, only for both the Decepticon leader and the AllSpark to be destroyed in battle in [[Mission City]]. Soundwave returned one month after his leader's death, but detoured briefly to investigate a space-time anomaly on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]]. There, he discovered a jury-rigged space bridge created from one of the Ark's pillars (created by [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]]), the remains of [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing's]], an imprint of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy's]] body, {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} and a message from Starscream that informed him of the recent events on Earth. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}} Soundwave immediately made contact with Starscream, who had just finished battling [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], and ordered him back to the ''Longshot'' to awaken the rest of his crew from stasis. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}}{{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}} Dispatching what few crew members were currently active to begin searching the planet for the Star Harvester, Soundwave assumed the form of a satellite and took up orbit around Earth. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}

As the search continued, Soundwave re-established contact with his many human pawns, including Gould's son [[Dylan Gould|Dylan]], who had inherited his father's role as Decepticon liaison. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}}

===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Soundwave appeared unknown to the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} He commanded a small Decepticon cell, based out of [[Mars (planet)|Mars]]' moon [[Phobos]]. While nominally under the command of [[The Fallen]], The Fallen was merely in ''contact'' with the Decepticons and currently incapacitated. This left Soundwave free to do his ''own'' thing... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

[[Image:Titan4_Soundwaveinterrogate.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only... Oops, wrong movie.]]

One of his goals was to find the location of the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The aging [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] knew it but would only tell it to The Fallen. ''Strangely'' unwilling to put The Fallen and Ransack in touch and ''oddly'' preferring to personally know the location of [[Matrix of Leadership|the key to a monstrous superweapon]] himself {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}, Soundwave turned to the dormant Seekers instead. He directed [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to [[Las Vegas]] to carve up one such Seeker for its "memory tree". He refused to explain the reason ''why'' to Grindor. When [[NEST]] showed up, Soundwave appeared contemptuous of them and their [[Human|whole species]], noting Transformers owned this world ''long'' before mankind. To Grindor, he simply said to get the memory tree to him and not get captured. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

Later, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.2|on The Fallen's orders]], he directed [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to find [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], find out what they knew about The Fallen's plans and who they'd told it to, and then terminate them. When Ravage had cornered Mudflap, Soundwave talked through him and attempted to interrogate the Autobot; this failed, with Mudflap not even being bothered about who Soundwave was. While the hit was a bust, Soundwave ensured the base was bugged. As a result, he discovered [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] distrusted the twins.

[[Image:Titan6_SoundwaveIAm.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"[[Sanctuary|There you go]], fellas!"]]

This was something Soundwave found interesting {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} and he hatched a plan to ensure the twins were believed to be traitors: which would ensure nobody would follow up on their intell! Somehow, he got [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] to [[Diego Garcia]] at the same time the twins were there. He then had [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] get captured, so that when he was taken to [[Diego Garcia]] Scorponok would free him. With the Decepticon attacking at the same time the twins were distracting Optimus and on top of previous acts, they seemed guilty and were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}} Soundwave sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to blow up the soldiers escorting the twins to orbitary exile, and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] parachuted in to convince them to defect. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] tracked down the twins—who had kidnapped [[Sam Witwicky]] in a failed attempt to convince him to speak to Optimus on their behalf - Soundwave finally landed on Earth and blasted the scout. Soundwave told the twins The Fallen would offer them sanctuary, something they seemed happy to accept... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

[[Image:Titan7_Soundwave_GO!.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]

Poor Soundwave soon had to put ''up'' with the twins, as they insisted on chatting through his briefings and dissing the other 'cons. He ''just'' about, through ominous glares, got them to pay attention to their mission: to capture Ransack and bring him in to be "re-educated". This, however, was all a big con on the twins: he just wanted them as expendable bait to draw out Ransack, so Grindor and Sideways could knock him out. Soundwave also spoke for the entire Decepticons when he said that if the twins survived any encounter, ''kill them anyway''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[Image:Titan8_Soundwave_FWATT.jpg|right|thumb|200px|KERPOW!]]

Once Ransack was in his hands, Soundwave beat the snot out of him and demanded the location to the Tomb of the Primes. The Seeker still refused to talk, and insulted Soundwave as being a mere cog who could barely understand the big picture. He almost killed Ransack for that, having to be held back by Starscream (don't want The Fallen ''knowing'' you've killed his Seeker!), but the elder continued to mock him for believing he had freedom of action just because The Fallen was absent.

When the twins, revealed to have been faking their defection, returned to beat the crap out of the Phobos base, an annoyed Soundwave ended their brief success with overwhelming violence. Unfortunately, before he could kill the Autobots, Ransack took the opportunity to leg it; desperate to stop The Fallen from being informed of what he'd been up to, Soundwave gave chase and the Phobos base was abandoned. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}} As he's still around later, it seems Soundwave made ''sure'' Ransack never made it to The Fallen...

{{note|The following events occur in the Law and Disorder continuity.}}

[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] considers Soundwave to be an untrustworthy jerk who ''never'' pulls his weight in a fight. Megatron, however, loves the guy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|#7's Law and Disorder}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English, French, Italian), [[Daisuke Gōri]] (Japanese)|[[Horst Lampe]] (German), [[Leonardo García]] (American Spanish)}}

[[Image:ROTF-Soundwaveface.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Next time, Gadget. Next time.]]
Soundwave received a transmission from [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who was tailing [[Mikaela Banes]], and instructed him to obtain a surviving shard of the [[AllSpark|AllSpark]] in her possession. He found a satellite transmitting a conversation between [[NEST]] and the [[United States military]]. Tapping into it with his tentacles to listen, Soundwave overheard [[Theodore Galloway]] mention another shard of the AllSpark in storage at [[Diego Garcia]], and of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s burial in the [[Laurentian Abyss]].

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave ejects Ravage.jpg|thumb|left|300px|M.A.D. Cat, eject!]]

Formulating a plan, Soundwave waited until it would be nightfall on Diego Garcia, then ejected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] (who was equipped with [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] and the [[Microcon (ROTF)|microcons]] comprising [[Reedman]]) to Diego Garcia to steal the shard. Once they had stolen the shard, they reunited with some [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] and managed to resurrect their leader.

Soundwave remained in space, tapping into the satellite he had found. When Megatron decided to reveal the Transformers presence on Earth after killing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Soundwave issued the mobilization order to the waiting troops on the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''. As the Decepticons streaked toward Earth, Soundwave tracked down [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] in [[France|Paris]]. He called Judy on her cellphone, demanding to know where Sam was, which the human dismissed as a crank call by a pervert. This allowed the Decepticons to track them down and capture them to use as bait for Sam.

[[Image:SoundwaveSatellite.jpg|thumb|300px|Yes, yes, you fans all thought about ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' when you saw me do this.]]

When the CIA discovered that Sam was in [[Egypt]], Soundwave relayed the information to the Decepticons. During [[Operation: Firestorm]], Soundwave blocked the satellites covering the Egyptian area, making things appear normal. General [[Morshower]] was unconvinced though and got other local informants to know what was happening at the [[pyramid]]s. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|In the comic, Megatron rendezvoused with Soundwave after killing Optimus, making the demand for Sam Witwicky himself, which Soundwave broadcast through the satellite he clutched. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|Revenge of the Fallen #2}}}}

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===IDW post-''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Months after the battle in Egypt, Soundwave detected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was alive and active, and was furious someone else was ordering his pet around. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 5}} Monitoring Earth, he observed [[Alice]]'s attempt at flight and subsequent termination by [[NEST]]. [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]], who he'd dispatched to [[Kingdom Petrochemicals]] to investigate Ravage's status, reported back that there were non-NEST humans poking around there, so Soundwave sent in [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]], [[Rumble (ROTF)|Rumble]] and [[Beastbox (ROTF)|Beastbox]] to attack. Surprisingly [[Initiative|the humans]] were a match for the Decepticons, and Soundwave moved in to take direct action, however at that point the Autobots arrived. Soundwave destroyed [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]], but when the human forces pulled out, so too did Soundwave. To his surprise, he found he wasn't able to track where the departing humans had gone. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}}

[[Image:Nefarious3 Soundwave bondage.jpg|thumb|left|300px]]
Ravage was reactivated by Buzzsaw, allowing Soundwave to access his memories. Acting on one memory, he sent Buzzsaw to help [[Strike Team Ursa]] while he rendezvoused with Ravage for an examination. When Strike Team Ursa triggered defenses, Soundwave warned them to withdraw. They did, but ran into [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], and Soundwave was forced to come to their aid. Unfortunately, Optimus Prime was also on the way, and Soundwave was no match for the Autobot leader. He tried to suggest it would be advantageous for them to let him go, but Optimus took him into custody. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 2|Nefarious #2}} Soundwave was secured and put on a plane bound for [[Odessa]], [[Texas]], however the plane was shot down by Buzzsaw, and then [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s team had [[Dirt Boss (ROTF)|Dirt Boss]] and Soundwave's minions to contend with as well. Soundwave tried to get Ravage to free him, but the cat's free will was overridden by an external force. In the end, Soundwave was too much trouble and Bumblebee let the Decepticons have him back. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 3|Nefarious #3}}

Soundwave tracked Ravage back to the [[Initiative base]] in [[California]]. After sending the other Decepticons in first to test the base's defenses, he moved in himself, only to find that the foe he faced had an army of brainwashed Transformers. He somehow escaped them and proceeded to the NEST base in Odessa. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 4|Nefarious #4}} He led the Autobots to the base's location, though he "neglected" to tell them about the brainwashed Transformers, but the base was gone, leading to the conclusion it was somehow mobile. Tapping into traffic cameras, he traced the base to [[Oregon]]. When they got there and began the assault, Soundwave was snootily dismissive of the Autobots' combat banter. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} While the Initiative was distracted, Soundwave was able to reactivate Ravage and send [[Reedman]] to attack Initiative head [[Carter Newell]]. When Newell tried to flee with the AllSpark, Soundwave ordered Buzzsaw to assist Optimus Prime in pursuing him. It was only after everything was over that NEST discovered that the Initiative databanks had been mysteriously picked clean... {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

Adopting a new body, Soundwave then took up residence at Megatron's base in [[Namibia]]. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} When [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] and [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] discovered [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]'s [[Driller]] in the [[Adirondack Mountains]], Soundwave was present to jam their communications and then send his minions to attack them. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} With Elita-One leaving to warn the Autobots about Shockwave in person, the other two were surrounded by Soundwave and his animals. They chose to sacrifice themselves using a powerful bomb, though Soundwave managed to escape the explosion and return to Namibia. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}

===''Cyber Missions''===
{{voiceactor|[[Bronco D. Jackson]] (English), [[Salvador Reyes]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}

[[Image:CyberMission1-Soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Through the dark, to the light, it's a super sonic flight!
Gotta keep it goin'!]]

{{quote|No! Too many sonic booms! I can't absorb—!}}

When Soundwave and [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] descended on [[Diego Garcia]], they interrupted an Autobot mission briefing. While Ironhide headed outside to face Bludgeon, Bumblebee remained inside to guard the Autobots' precious [[datatrax|data tracks]] from Soundwave. Bumblebee fired shot after shot, but Soundwave was able to simply use his sonic powers to repel the attacks back towards Bumblebee. However, Bumblebee gambled that Soundwave would be unable to repel a great number of attacks simultaneously, and the Decepticon was overwhelmed by Bumblebee's automatic weaponry. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 1}} Bumblebee confined Soundwave inside a vacuum-sealed electromagnetic bubble, where his sonic weaponry would be useless. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 2}}
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===Titan Magazines post-''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

Instructed by Megatron to "hound" humans and "get up close and personal" in his attacks, Soundwave cut a swathe of destruction across the North Atlantic, destroying ships as he headed on a course towards Florida. Identifying his pattern, [[William Lennox]] and [[Robert Epps]] staged an ambush, laying out a cargo ship for Soundwave to attack and then blindsiding him with a volley from a hidden warship. Badly damaged in the surprise assault, Soundwave was forced to retreat, venturing into the confines of...the [[Bermuda Triangle]]! (Dun dun dunnnn!)

[[Image:Titan15_Soundwaveghostship.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Bustin' makes ghosts feel good!]]

Amidst the storm clouds, Soundwave discovered another ship that he decided to attack out of spite, but faltered when his databanks identified it as a [[United States Navy]] vessel that had been lost in [[1918]]. Caught off-guard by a volley of primitive weaponsfire (even for humans!) and damaged even further, Soundwave tried to limp away, only to cross paths with ''another'' mystery ship, this one allegedly from [[1941]]! Pelted from both sides and unable to get a handle on his situation, Soundwave fled high into the air, out of the ships' range...and right in the path of a squadron of [[World War II]] bombers! Rattled by their machine gun fire and unable to overcome their superior flying skills, Soundwave decided to break upwards...''all'' the way upwards. Whatever strange chronal chaos he had encountered in the depths of the Bermuda Triangle, Soundwave concluded that the solar radiation, meteor showers and space debris he would face on the ''[[Moon (moon)|Moon]]'' would be ''much'' safer! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.15|Making Waves}}

[[Image:Titan3-3_soundwaveyoutwo.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Look out! Soundwave is pretending to be the Fat Controller!]]

When the Autobots were about to discover an ''Ark'' fragment that could lead them to [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]], Soundwave and Starscream sprang into action. From his position in high orbit, Soundwave hacked and took over NEST's defensive guns and left the [[Fiesole Cathedral]] wide open. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 3.1|Fight for Fiesole}}

Striking out on his own and using a brand new body, Soundwave scanned the Earth for a large seam of [[gold]] and, having discovered the legendary [[El Dorado]] in [[Colombia]], used the human [[Tanto Gang]] to help him dig it up. Once they found it, he began shooting at them: he wanted it for himself so he could flood the markets with gold and crash the economy! NEST attempted to stop him and he fought Optimus Prime directly, but in the end he was driven off when the Tanto Gang triggered a bomb for revenge. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 3.2|Blood And Gold}}

Soundwave then allowed NEST to find him, pretending to be injured from the battle... and then opened fire with full weaponry, injuring [[Robert Epps]] and nearly killing Bumblebee. When Optimus arrived, Soundwave was able to force him to agree to a fight without weapons (''Optimus''' weapons anyway) and attempted to blast him off the [[Spain|Sierra Nevada]] mountains. Unfortunately for him, he got too into it and his sonic blasts began to cause avalanches, while Optimus was able to locate a fissure in the rock and sneak up behind him. Surprised, he was shoved into the avalanche he'd start and almost killed.

Somehow, Soundwave had also gained the power to transform from alien satellite form into a robot form that looked like it turned into a car!{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 3.3|Dealing with the Devil}}
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===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Jirō Saitō]] (Japanese)|[[Leonardo García]] (American Spanish), [[Mario Bombardieri]] (Italian), [[Horst Lampe]] (German)}}

[[Image:DOTM-LaserbeakSoundwave.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Carly will wonder why her car has claw marks all over the door.]]
During the 1970s, Soundwave had tried to hide the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'s presence on the [[moon (moon)|moon]] by gaining human contacts in the [[United States of America|United States]] and [[Soviet Union]], whose creative accounting would render further trips to the moon financially unfeasible. One of these was [[Dylan Gould|Dylan Gould's]] father, while Dylan himself would later accept Soundwave as a ''client''. But with the failure of Megatron and The Fallen's schemes, the Decepticons now planned to alert [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] to the ship's existence so he could revive [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] with the [[Matrix of Leadership]] for them.

[[Image:DOTM-Soundwavecar.jpg|right|thumb|225px|Unknown to Speed, Racer X is secretly his older brother, Soundwave, who ran away from home years ago!]]
Soundwave went undercover on Earth as a Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG. He and his winged minion [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]] visited the incapicitated Megatron in [[Africa]], and informed the ex-tyrant that Optimus had discovered an Ark fuel cell at the [[Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant]], and had recovered the body of [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and five of his Space Bridge [[Pillar|pillars]]. Megatron decided it was time to eliminate loose ends in their plan, so Soundwave sent Laserbeak to further draw out the Autobots by killing many of their human contacts, including [[Jerry Wang]].

[[Image:Soundwavecapturescarly.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Stupid dog! You made me look bad! ''*whrr-tschzz-tschzz-tschzz-chk*'' Oooga-booga-booga!]]
Meanwhile, the disguised Soundwave was "given" by their human ally Dylan, the one human they did not kill, as a gift to [[Sam Witwicky]]'s new girlfriend [[Carly Spencer]]. He was used as a car to transport Carly to Dylan's party. During the party, Sam and Carly tried to leave, only for Soundwave and Laserbeak to reveal themselves, and the sonic warrior took Carly hostage. Gould explained his relationship with the two Decepticons while Soundwave used his tentacles to threaten Carly, and the pair forced Sam into finding out the Autobot's plan for a counter-attack.

[[Image:DOTM-Soundwaveexecute.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Look, I'm kind of busy. Hey [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], want to do some of my lines for me?]]
During the Decepticon occupation of [[Chicago]], Soundwave took several Autobots prisoner until Gould stated that things had gotten personal and the Autobots needed a lesson of respect, and Soundwave happily concurred: "No prisoners, only trophies". He and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] began by executing [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]]. He then selected [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] to be his victim and dragged him forward, pushing him onto the body of his fallen comrade. He then told the Autobot to turn around as was about to execute him, when he was distracted by [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and [[Brains]]'s sabotage of a Decepticon aircraft carrier, raining [[Orbital Assault Carrier|fighters]] onto the battlefield. The Autobot scout took advantage of this small slip of opportunity and punched Soundwave as they battled through the chaos, causing him to drop one of his guns. Evading Soundwave's [[sonic cannon]] blasts, Bumblebee eventually blasted part of Soundwave's leg, causing him to drop his remaining gun, and he lunged at the Autobot. Bumblebee then delivered the final blow by throwing an uppercut to Soundwave's torso and shooting upwards, disintegrating the Decepticon's head, and flipping his body over to the side. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
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==Games==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game (Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Jessop]] (English)

=====Decepticon campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_DLC_Soundwave.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

Soundwave coordinated the Decepticons' movement on Earth, but never stooped so low as to join field operations - not even taking part in their regular dissing contests - er, group discussions following missions. He often provided "mission control" to the Decepticons in the field. However, when he did step down from on high to mingle with the commoners, he could easily hold his own in battle. Among Soundwave's arsenal was a little friend in the form of a turret which could literally stomp the yard - er, oh hell. Just read the next paragraph in italics.

{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Soundwave was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. However, instead of the silver colour scheme established on his regular release toys and movie appearance, the character model was coloured blue, like [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] Soundwave figure from the ''Gathering at Nemesis'' figure pack. His special attack in robot mode consisted of a deployable turret that generated earthquakes, a reference to [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], who was one of Generation 1 Soundwave's tape minions. While using his special in vehicle mode deployed a radar jammer pod in the sky that also fired a laser at nearby enemies, a likely reference to Laserbeak, another of Generation 1 Soundwave's tape minions.}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game (Wii/PS2)===
Soundwave - surprise - coordinated the Decepticon movement on Earth from space, often guiding Decepticons in the field. Soundwave dispatched Reedman and Ravage to retrieve a fragment of the AllSpark from NEST, and directed the Decepticons to find Megatron's body in a NEST base in the middle of the Atlantic.

Busy guy, ain't he?

===Transformers Autobots/Decepticons===
Soundwave was the Decepticon movement's coordinator, loyally serving The Fallen and Megatron (the former likely because he was out to bring Megatron back), making no effort to hide his disdain for Starscream's gig as Decepticon leader. He regularly coordinated and provided intel for Decepticons in the field, and was more than happy to chew out the troops if they sucked at their job, and was pleased to have Megatron back.

However, this pleasure likely turned to boiling hatred when The Fallen promoted the new recruit to Decepticon leader and replaced Megatron, when the recruit killed Optimus Prime in Egypt at the Sun Harvester.
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===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - The Game''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]]

====(Xbox 360/PS3)====
[[Image:DOTMgameSoundwave.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
During Megatron's exile after the Egypt skirmish, Soundwave remained in orbit, monitoring Autobot transmissions and messages to send to his leader for information. Soon, Soundwave was ordered to disconnect from the satellite as Bumblebee had implanted a virus into his network which allowed the Autobots to follow Decepticon operations.

After landing on the planet and taking the form of an SUV, he was ordered to destroy a base that formerly served as a [[Sector Seven]] facility. Megatron required Soundwave to do so because it contained information on their ally contained in Russia. Soundwave completed this with the utmost efficiency, destroying every Autobot encountered and displaying great courage as he blasted Autobot scouts from the inside of a laser cage. After exploring the corridors of the base and having Laserbeak incapacitate anyone standing in his way, Soundwave destroyed the base and escaped the erupting base unscathed, as did his condor companion.

He later helped escort Megatron to [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave's]] location in a cryogenics facility in a Soviet country, and appeared in Africa with Megatron, Starscream and Shockwave as Megatron announced his plans were far from over. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|Dark of the Moon}}
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===Autobots/Decepticons===
[[Image:DOTMDS Soundwave.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] met with Soundwave to report that Megatron had ordered a two-pronged assault, with Starscream attacking a nearby [[NEST]] facility, and Soundwave was to create a diversion. Soundwave was skeptical that Megatron had actually ordered anything of the sort, and promised to double-check with his leader later. After causing a sizable diversion by knocking down a bunch of buildings, Soundwave went off and infiltrated another base. While hunting for the NEST computer, he was contacted by Starscream whose loud demands that Soundwave maintain stealth were more of a hindrance than anything. Soundwave managed to retrieve the data he was after, and while [[Crowbar]] kept the Autobots busy, he escaped. After he returned to the Decepticons' Siberian base, he received a message from Megatron—the Autobots had planted a number of radar emplacements around which were broadcasting a jamming signal, and Soundwave had to go around hacking them so Megatron's team could survey their immediate surroundings. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons|Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons}}
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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
*'''Soundwave''' (Legends, 2009)
[[Image:ROTFLegends Soundwave.jpg|right|300px|thumb|No matter what mode you put him in, he is always ready to get down and dirty with unsuspecting satellites.]]

: Part of the fifth wave of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Legends Class]] figures, Soundwave transforms into a simplified version of his satellite altmode. The satellite head is completely covered in blue, however. Amusingly enough, his chest is sculpted in his Deluxe toy's flipped-up 'mode' (with the three circles showing) but is painted in the colors of the Deluxe's flipped-down form (shown on the Deluxe toy's packaging).

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/LegSoundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Legends Soundwave at TFU.info]''

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*'''Infiltrator Soundwave''' (EZ Collection, 2010)
[[Image:EZCollectionInfiltratorSoundwave.jpg|thumb|Satellite of Love]]

: In Japan, Legends class Soundwave was [[redeco]]ed as Infiltrator Soundwave (インフィルトレイターサウンドウェーブ) to match the colors of Deluxe Infiltration Soundwave (see below). He was part of the Japanese ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' promotion, and was only available to those who bought the Voyager "[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] VS [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]" set at Amazon.jp and Yamada Denki stores.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|War fork!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 [[Ravage (ROTF)#Deluxe Class toys|Ravage]] missile

:Part of the initial Movie Preview wave, Soundwave is a [[Triple Changer]], transforming into a satellite and a Cybertron jet, which are not exactly what could be described as "distinct" from one another. In all three modes, Soundwave features a spring-loaded missile launcher which fires a missile intended to resemble Ravage, in reference to the scene in the film in which he launches the feline fiend down to Earth. In his (rather stocky) robot mode, Soundwave has blue light piping in his visor, but it is disabled, having been painted over in red; his other modes feature a second, armored version of his face, which is stored on the back of his robot mode. Probably to avoid giving the toy a very obviously two-headed robot mode, the alternate face lacks any paint details, and has an unpainted blue visor. Soundwave features numerous red and gold [[Paint operation|paint application]]s which are ''very'' cleverly and subtly positioned around his body to replicate similarly-colored and -positioned details on the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave toy]].

:The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Soundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Soundwave at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You can get him in blue, but you gotta get those other guys, too!]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 [[Ravage (ROTF)#GatheringNemesis|Ravage]] missile

: A [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] three pack (technically four pack if you want to count the Ravage missile), also featuring [[The Fallen#GatheringNemesis|The Fallen]], and a [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#GatheringNemesis|silver Voyager Class Megatron]] from the first movie toyline. Soundwave was [[redeco]]ed predominantly in blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

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[[Image:CharaHobbyROTFSoundwaveBlack.jpg|thumb|300px| So...waiting for any ROTF Soundblaster jokes...]]
*'''Soundwave Black Version''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 [[Ravage (ROTF)#BlackVersion|Ravage]] missile

:Exclusive to the 2009 "C3 X Hobby Chara Hobby" show that ran across [[August 29]]-[[August 30|30]] in Japan, Soundwave Black Version is a redeco of the deluxe ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Soundwave toy in black and red with orange highlights. Following the convention, remaining quantities of the figure were made available to purchase via lottery through the [[e-HOBBY]] website.

::*''[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tf_ev_07 Soundwave Black Version at e-Hobby]''

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[[Image:ROTFtoy-SoundwaveNESTAlliance.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Look out for Escalation Soundwave, Devastation Soundwave, and Soundwave Loves Drift-Chan.]]
*'''Battlefield Bumblebee Vs. Infiltration Soundwave''' (Deluxe 2-pack, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' 1 [[Ravage (ROTF)#Infiltration|Ravage]] missile

:Part of the [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]] campaign, Infiltration Soundwave is another redeco of the Deluxe Class Soundwave mold, this time in dark blue and dark gray, plus bright red that simulates the intense heat of orbital reentry. He also comes with new light-piping that ''isn't'' painted over. He comes with Battlefield Bumblebee, a retooling of Cannon Bumblebee with a new battlemask head. Also included in the packaging is a "Mission Guide" catalog and ordering form for the mail-in exclusive Recon Ravage, a "starter sticker" for said ordering form, and a N.E.S.T. Global Alliance iron-on patch. Two additional stickers from specially-marked N.E.S.T. Global Alliance products and $4.95 shipping are required for the promotion. Sadly, this promotion does not exist in Europe or Australia, but Recon Ravage was made available in the latter country as a Toys R Us exclusive. Surprisingly, the package does not recognize his Cybertron jet mode, instead only acknowledging his satellite mode. His instructions ''do'' still mention his jet mode, though.
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
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[[Image:DOTMCyberverseBumblebeeVsSoundwaveWRod.jpg|thumb|300px|Nope, definitely not a car in the third film. Nooooo way.]]
*'''Bumblebee / Soundwave''' with '''Rodimus''' (Cyberverse 3-pack, 2011)

: Part of a [[Walmart]] exclusive pack alongside [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#BeeSoundwaveRodimus|Bumblebee]] and [[Rodimus (DOTM)|Rodimus]], Soundwave is a redeco of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class Soundwave, with a new deco inspired by the [[Toys"R"Us]] exclusive ''Gathering at Nemesis'' gift set (see above), which in turn was heavily influenced by [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. The toy is mostly blue and gray, with some gold, red, and silver paint details here and there.

: This three-pack was also available as an Asda exclusive in the United Kingdom and from Rossmann stores in Germany and Auchan stores in Hungary and Italy. Of note is that the [[multilingual packaging|European packaging]] does ''not'' market Rodimus as a "bonus figure" (presumably so stores can charge full price for three toys), and his window lacks the yellow edges highlighting him as a special feature, despite still being separated from Bumblebee and Soundwave, who share a common window like in the US version. Despite this, Rodimus still doesn't get a mention on the back of the packaging, which only features a one-sentence "bio" about Bumblebee planning to bring down Soundwave in twelve different languages.

: All versions of the packaging also lack any logos that label the toys as [[Cyberverse]] products.

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[[Image:DOTMLegionSoundwave.JPG|thumb|300px|Inside is a teeny Carly being menaced by tentacles.]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Cyberverse, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''016'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV26'''
: An all new mold, Cyberverse Soundwave transforms into a fully-[[Licensed vehicle alternate modes|licensed]] Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG. He has Sonic Cannons sculpted on his arms and his right hand allows him to grip Cyberverse accessories. There are also two [[variant|variant]]s of this sculpt: The later version features sculpted "grill" details on the front, sides, and hood of the vehicle, whereas the initial production run had left those areas smooth.
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTMtoy_deluxe_soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Remember, if a stranger asks you to go into his car, he's probably driving a giant evil robot with a satellite fetish.]]
*'''Soundwave''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DD13'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Sonic Cannon/Interceptor Dish

:Part of the sixth wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' Deluxe-Class [[MechTech]] figures, Soundwave transforms from a fully licensed Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG into a robot. In vehicle mode, he has two MechTech ports on the roof. His large "Sonic Cannon" can transform into an equally large "Interceptor Dish". In robot mode, Soundwave has MechTech ports in each hand and one on each shoulder, and he also has [[C joint]] bars on each leg. He features [[Kibble#"Faux-parts"|fake kibble]] as well, with his vehicle mode front grille being switched out and tucked away for a warped robot mode grille-chest.

:The sixth wave of Dark of the Moon Deluxe-Class figures was released in Japan on December 21.

:There are currently no plans to release this figure, or Human Alliance Soundwave, in the US<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=23986]</ref> but at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012, Hasbro stated that they are trying to find ways to get these figures out to American retailers.
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====Human Alliance====
[[Image:DOTMtoy_HA_soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|All these features, and yet no tentacles?! You robbed us, Hasbro!]]
*'''Soundwave / Mr. Gould''' with '''Laserbeak''' (Human Alliance, 2011 in Japan, later in 2012 for US)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DD09'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:A new [[Human Alliance]] mold of Soundwave in his SLS AMG mode. He has "'''SUPERIOR'''" [[tampograph]]ed on his [[license plate]] and comes with [[Laserbeak (DOTM)#Human Alliance|Laserbeak]] and [[Dylan Gould]].

:As is usual for any Human Alliance figure, Gould (or any other "driver" figure) can can sit on Soundwave's seats in vehicle mode or stand on his hands in robot mode.

:Laserbeak can also transform into a spring-loaded missile-firing cannon for Gould to man, and the cannon itself can [[5mm post|be pegged]] into any of Soundwave's six MechTech ports: two ports on his shoulders (his right shoulder is the nominal choice, as per the [[instructions]]), a port on top of each of his upper arms, and (rather awkwardly) a port on the sonic cannons on each of his lower arms. In bird mode, Laserbeak can also perch on either of the (flipped out) seats on Soundwave's lower arms via a molded-in [[C joint]] bar on the seats themselves and the bar clips on Laserbeak's heels.

:The pair of sonic cannons on the top of his left lower arm is also a panel that can be flipped open (up to 90 degrees), but since this is undocumented in the instructions, is only usable in robot mode, and doesn't appear to have anything inside it, its purpose remains unknown.

:Finally, as with all large Human Alliance toys, he has a [[gimmick]] concerning his head. It is essentially the same gimmick as [[Barricade (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance|Barricade]]'s: his jointed head allows him to open and close his mouth.

:As with many late-wave DOTM products, this toy had no US release in 2011, but at San Diego Comic-Con 2012, they stated that they are trying to find ways to get those figures out in USA retailers.

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===Movie Trilogy Series===
====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:MovieTrilogySoundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Soundwave''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' ?
: Movie Trilogy Soundwave is a redeco of ''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Soundwave, done up in [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#SoundblasterG1|Soundblaster-y]] colors. Like the rest of the Movie Trilogy Series, its release was cancelled.

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===Cyberverse===
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[[Image:2012CyberverseSoundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
:*''Series:'' '''2/008'''
:*''Accessories:'' Hacking tool

:[[Cyberverse#Series 2|Cyberverse Series 2]] Soundwave is a dark blue and silver redeco/retool of his [[#CyberverseLegion|Legion Class toy]], retooling his other hand to be able to hold Cyberverse weapons. He comes with the same weapon/tool accessory as the ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' Cyberverse Legion Class [[Vehicon (Prime)#Cyberverse|Vehicon]] (later also used by [[Flamewar (Prime)#Cyberverse|Decepticon Flamewar]], in an ever-so-slightly different color). In a bizarre instance of a [[quality control]] error, the figure's [[packaging]] has its [[bio]] printed in white instead of black ink, making it impossible to read on the white background of the card.

:The United States market release of Soundwave used the template for the ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Transformers: Prime]]''-based Series 2 Cyberverse Legion Class packaging style but lacked the "Prime" moniker. The [[Multilingual packaging|multilingual]] European market packaging, meanwhile, retained the ''Prime'' title.
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==Merchandise==
===Burger King===
[[Image:ROTFMerchandise-BurgerKingSoundwave.jpg|thumb|right|300px|I spy with my little eye.....impending tentacle attack.]]
*'''Seeking Soundwave''' (2009)
**'''Accessories:''' 2 blue solar panels
:The [[Burger King]] version of Soundwave is a representation of the communications satellite which Soundwave hacked into in the movie. The dishes have tendril details added to them. Peering into an opening in the top gives a sort of periscope effect, although as there is only one mirror, everything looks backwards.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/BKSoundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Seeking Soundwave at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:DOTMMerchandise-BurgerKingSoundwave.jpg|thumb|right|150px|After Soundwave had accumulated all the knowledge and information he desired, his head swelled with pride.]]
*'''Flip-Out Soundwave''' (2011)
:A plastic Soundwave head which opens to allow a small body to flip-out, resulting in a "super-deformed" figure which is otherwise reasonably accurate to his on-screen appearance. Circles on his front and back are daubed with glow-in-the-dark paint.

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===RPMs - Robot Powered Machines===
[[Image:RPM_Soundwave_toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|See? You ''have'' your damn ''Prime'' toys, now shut up!!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08''' (only seven released)

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Soundwave is a small, non-transforming pseudo-Scion XB with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode resembles [[Soundwave (WFC)|another Soundwave]] for some reason. The car's wheels feature through-axle construction for speedy racing on flat surfaces. Unlike other RPMs, Soundwave, along with the rest of the Metal Heroes, is made of [[die-cast]] metal.

:RPM Soundwave is probably the most homage-heavy Transformer ever produced: he has [[Soundwave (Animated)|''Animated'' Soundwave]] alt mode and a mix between his regular and Electrostatic incarnations "tattoos", [[Soundwave (WFC)|''War for Cybertron'' Soundwave]] robot mode (which in turn was heavily based in [[Soundwave (G1)|G1 Soundwave]]) and despite this, the bio and toyline clearly identify him as ROTF Soundwave. You can try and add [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Cybertron Soundwave]] to the list if you want, but that would be overkill.

:This toy's American release and the rest of the Metal Heroes were canceled in favor of the [[Speed Stars]] versions of the toys. They have been released in the Philippines, New Zealand and Mexico (at a discounted price compared to past RPM releases), however. Both versions were eventually available at retail in those countries.

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===Speed Stars===
[[Image:SpeedStars_Soundwave_toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Three continuities for the price of one!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08'''

:[[Speed Stars]] Soundwave is a [[redeco]] of the RPM vehicle, featuring many differences in comparison to the Robot Powered Machines release. Namely, the Speed Stars version lacks paint in the doors and tail lights, as well as the chest, arms, legs and face of the "robot" mode. The plastic at the bottom of the car is cast in gold instead of bronze. This version also lacks the "Soundwave-Audio" written on the inferior part of the doors. The red that borders the rims of his wheels is also not as bright or vibrant.

:This toy was given away free as part of a Daily Mirror promotion in the UK.

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====Stealth Force====
[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_Soundwave_toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|He's a sore loser when it comes to [[wikipedia:dB drag racing|decibel drag racing]].]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Basic, 2010)

:This Soundwave toy is part of the "[[Stealth Force]]" subline, consisting of vehicles without robot modes, but with plenty of flip-out panels with hidden weapons. Like the smaller Metal Heroes toy, Soundwave has ''Animated'' Soundwave's Scion XB altmode and features ''War for Cybertron'' Soundwave on his packaging. He features non-firing weapons hidden all throughout the toy, activated by pulling part of the roof back.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/SFSoundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Stealth Force Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
===Identity and alternate modes===
[[Image:EarlyMovieBlackout.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Soundwave-headed Blackout from an animatic.]]
[[Image:ROTFEarthSoundwaveConcept.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Soundwave, before losing weight.]]
* Soundwave was originally supposed to feature in [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'']]; he fulfilled both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s roles, hacking into the CIA headquarters as a portable stereo, then [[size changing|morphed]] into a Humvee to track down [[Sam Witwicky]].<ref>Details from an early script draft [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2213120&postcount=297 summed up here], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2214148&postcount=303 confirmed as authentic by Roberto Orci here].</ref> [[Michael Bay]]'s decision to minimalize the amount of morphing in the film resulted in a change to a helicopter who openly attacks the army. Soundwave and [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] were changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] as the film's location was changed from a jungle to a desert.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci post at the official movie boards]
</ref> Soundwave's name remained attached to the separated portable stereo character for a while, but Hasbro felt the resulting character did not properly represent the original Soundwave. He was first renamed Soundbite,<ref>[http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76662065 Abandoned Soundbite trademark application]</ref> but eventually ended up with the name Frenzy.
*According to the trade paperback, Soundwave was a major character in the third draft of ''[[Transformers: The Reign of Starscream|The Reign of Starscream]]''.
* In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Soundwave came to Earth and scanned a black Chevrolet Silverado pickup truck form. Artist [[Paul Ozzimo]] created a visualization of this idea, and Hasbro based the Cybertronian satellite form's robot mode on this abandoned concept, particularly a Cybertronian version of the Chevy grill and small headlights on the lower torso. They then combined Ozzimo's body design with an unused, heavily G1-esque head design that had been created by artist [[Josh Nizzi]] (although Soundwave's finalized head design was also incorporated into the toy's satellite mode, in a manner akin to [[kibble#Faux parts|faux parts]]).
* Early artwork for Soundwave for ''Dark of the Moon'' identified him as '''Breakdown''', but considering other names presented on other concept artwork, it was likely just a smokescreen to hide his true identity in case of a leak.<ref name="nizzi">[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm Josh Nizzi DOTM concepts.]</ref>
[[Image:TF3HasbroSoundwaveBio.JPG|thumb|200px|right|SPOILER ALERT]]
* Before the release of ''Dark of the Moon'', Michael Bay and other official parties tried ''really'' hard to suppress the plot twist of the silver Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG given to Carly by Dylan turning out to be Soundwave's new alternate mode. After the Mercedes had been spotted on the set, with [[Rosie Huntington-Whiteley]] exiting it,<ref name="mercedesset">[http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67518 DOTM Set Photos], ComingSoon.net, July 2010.</ref> the first hint that it was more than meets the eye came with the trailer for the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|video game]], which showed Soundwave's robot mode with car [[kibble]] such as wheels that heavily resembled those of the Mercedes. In addition, [[Rising Storm issue 3|issue 3]] of ''[[Transformers: Rising Storm]]'' depicted Soundwave's robot mode not only with car kibble, but with a Mercedes star on his chest. Despite this, director Michael Bay insisted that the Mercedes was simply Carly's car, claiming that "Mercedes would never let us make their car into a bad Decepticon. Car company's {{sic}} really frown on that. I can't say what the game company and comics do that's their own thing. They don't have the same constraints movies do. It's Carly's car."<ref name="baynomerc">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?8724-Update-Is-Soundwave-the-silver-Mercedes-on-set-of-DOTM&p=169598&viewfull=1#post169598 Michael Bay's response to the fan theory that Soundwave is the Silver Mercedes.], April 2011.</ref> On April 19, 2011, an event for promoting the ''Spider-Man: Edge of Time'' and ''Transformers: Dark of the Moon'' video games was held in London. As part of this, [[High Moon Studios]] released promotional stills from the ''Dark of the Moon'' game, one of which depicted Soundwave's new robot mode, again with Mercedes parts. However, a news embargo was enforced on the attending press, which was broken by South African video game site [http://egamer.co.za egamer].<ref name="egamera">[http://egamer.co.za/2011/05/exclusive-hands-on-transformers-dark-of-the-moon/ egamer's preview of the ''Dark of the Moon'' video game]</ref> The site was soon asked to take down the article and images, as were various ''Transformers'' fan sites that had reported on the article and mirrored the images. On May 2, 2011, Hasbro's [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/ official Transformers website] was given a massive overhaul, including the addition of the new [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/cybertronian-database.cfm Vector Sigma database]. The entry for Soundwave initially identified his alternate mode as a Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, but was soon changed to "satellite". On May 3, 2011, the embargo for the video game article and promotional stills was finally lifted, allowing sites to freely show the image of Soundwave's new robot mode. Whether Mercedes approved of Soundwave's Earth mode or not remains to be seen.
*The Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG car prop sported a German/European Union [[license plate]], "'''M JS8509'''", registered in the city of Munich, on the Chicago set for ''Dark of the Moon''.<ref name="chicago">[http://www.flickr.com/photos/aperturesun/archives/date-taken/2010/07/17/ Dark of the Moon Chicago set] at Flickr.</ref> (The design of the plate is slightly inaccurate, as there should be a space between "JS" and "8509" if it were a real German plate. Also, a German car would have a license plate on the front as well.)

===Voice===
*Even though [[Frank Welker]] returned to voice Soundwave for the movie, his voice was not vocoded, but rather synthesized in the same way all the other Transformer voices in the movie were. Because of this, the voice he uses is much closer to that of "The Cave of Wonders" from [[Wikipedia:Aladdin (film)|Walt Disney's ''Aladdin'']], Dr. Claw from ''Inspector Gadget'' and Darkseid from ''The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians'', all voiced by Welker. However, in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game, Soundwave's voice ([[Peter Jessop]]) is vocoded in a manner similar to that of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]'s first voice, only with a more musical tone.
*[[Frank Welker]] voiced Soundwave not only in the English version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but also in a large number of foreign dubs, including the Italian one. Welker described the process as "very hard".<ref name="welkernewsarama">[http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090915-Animated-Shorts-Welker.html Newsarama interview with Frank Welker], September 2009.</ref> Although Welker is also credited in the German dub of the movie, German dubbing insiders insist that the voice heard in the actual movie is by someone else ([[Horst Lampe]], who also dubbed ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]), presumably as a last-minute decision because Welker's "German" performance was considered sub-standard.<ref name="germandub">[http://215072.homepagemodules.de/t511643f11775323-Transformers-Die-Rache-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-7.html German dubbing board thread about ROTF, with a discussion about Soundwave's voice]</ref> Welker is also credited in the American Spanish dub. (Which character he voiced is not listed, but it was most likely Soundwave, or he could have been credited for Devastator, Ravage, Grindor and Reedman, since all the sounds Welker did for them were kept in the American Spanish dub.) Doblaje Wiki, on the other hand, claims he was voiced by [[Andrés García]] or [[Salvador Reyes]]. You see, Wikis tend to get confused a lot on this issue, now it claims he was voiced by [[Leonardo García]] in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (However it should be noted that Soundwave does sound different on the Spanish dub of DOTM, which implies that he was vocied by someone else in ROTF).
*When [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] is about to be executed, it is clearly Barricade forcing him to move, but an editing error has Barricade speaking in Soundwave's voice.

===Video games===
* Soundwave was included as a downloadable addition to the roster of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 video game, along with several [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] homages and fellow movie character [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]. Soundwave's special abilities deploy an aerial jammer pod that looks suspiciously like [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and an AOE pod that continuously smashes the ground with piledrivers; undoubtedly a nod to Generation 1 [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s minion [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], his appearance was based more closely on the Deluxe class toy than his movie design.
*In the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|''Dark of the Moon'' video game]], Soundwave turns into an SUV similar to a Mercedes GLK 350, but in robot mode, his design is the same one used for the movie. In particular, the back of his legs still sports kibble reminiscent of a Mercedes SLS AMG trunk, complete with the words "SLS" and "AMG" written on it.

===Foreign names===
*''Hungarian:'' '''Fülelő''' ("Listener")

==References==
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SoundWave:

Ravage (SG)

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{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon mini-cassette|his evil counterpart|Ravage (G1)|Ravage}}
:''Ravage is a heroic [[Decepticon]] [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Recordicon]] from the [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:SGRavage-EvanGauntt.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hi! Do you see me? I'm waving!]]
Hi, I'm '''Ravage'''!<ref>I'm like a saboteur! Totally! I break stuff, srsly!</ref> I'm a white jaguar! I'm the one that's waving! Can you see me?<ref>Old crummy [[Steeljaw (SG)|Steeljaw]] never sees me! I jump all around but he keeps sleeping. He is the worst best friend ever!!! #bffs</ref> I love micro-blogging, so I talk in less<ref>Guys keep telling me that it's technically "fewer" and not "less" because whatevs, but that's what it says on the website!</ref> than 140 charact

{{quote|Hey im right over u do u see me? Im the metal cat waving at u on the big rock!|posted by ravagekitteh via [[Yatter]] mobile web feed}}

==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===
When the ''[[Ark (SG)|Ark]]'' launched for a second time, Ravage accompanied [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]] to [[Earth]] in the pursuit on the ''[[Nemesis (SG)|Nemesis]]'', and his escape pod landed near Soundwave's after the ship was shot down by the [[human]]s. He then joined in on the search for the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|The Desert Heat!}}

When Soundwave, [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], Ravage, and [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]] finally located the ''Nemesis''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s crash site, they noticed a team of scientists snooping around. Ravage decided to have fun with two of them, [[Will Hayes|Will]] and [[Rick Ottman|Rick]], by chasing them around playfully, waving at them, quipping at them in [[wikipedia:Lolcat|LOLspeak]], and [[Yatter|text-messaging them]] so they'd notice he was sneaking up behind them. Eventually Soundwave and Heatwave transformed to deal with and calm down the panicked humans. When Frenzy arrived with the other two, [[Henri Arkeville|Professor Arkeville]] and [[Sephie Beller|Sephie]], he told Ravage things would have gone more smoothly if he hadn't acted like, well, himself. Ravage reacted indignantly to the chastisement.

[[Image:BlitzwingBop-Ravage.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I totally look like a dog here LOL!!!! but I am a CAT :3]]

Ravage ended up getting along famously with Sephie, who understood his odd Netspeak and internet obsessions (both of which merely baffled the other [[Decepticon]]s), and happily purred at and snuggled up to her attentions. When the Decepticons made their attack to free [[Burpleson Air Force Base]] from the [[Autobot]]s' control, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] paired them together since Sephie was the only one who could "shut [Ravage] up".

The two were among the ones able to sneak into the base while riding in Soundwave, with the help of a cover story from Will and Rick. They then all split up, with Sephie and Ravage heading towards the control room. Before they could get there, however, they ran into [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]], who Ravage cheerfully waved at from the middle of the hallway. However, when the crazy inventor started ranting and pounding the walls, he sensibly took off running with Sephie.

They eventually managed to lose Wheeljack, but by that point Heatwave had already managed to talk the base's transmitter into evacuating the base in preparation for destroying it with the [[Global Orbiting Defense Satellite]], so Sephie and Ravage opted for getting out of there themselves. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

When Soundwave was busy trying to find where [[Blitzwing (SG)|Blitzwing]] had run off to, Ravage informed him that someone had posted on their Yatter account that there was a giant robot near their house, enabling Soundwave to arrive just in the nick of time to save the wayward Decepticon from [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]]. {{storylink|Blitzwing Bop}}

After Sephie augmented herself with Cybertronian tech, and Starscream confined her to base, Soundwave sent Ravage to have a talk to her. Unfortunately by the time Ravage got there, she'd left a note saying she was going to attack the Autobots. {{storylink|Transhuman}}
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===''Recordicons''===
Ravage and [[Thundercracker (SG)|Thundercracker]] were ambushed by a group of Autobots including [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]. The event would later become known (probably only by Ravage) as [[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction (SG)|Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction]]. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #3|Recordicons #3}}

[[Image:RecordiconsRavageandSteeljaw.jpg|right|thumb|200px|D'awwwwwww.]]
[[Steeljaw (SG)|Steeljaw]] was resting on a hill when Ravage popped up with a cheerful greeting. He tried to wake Steeljaw up for some playtime, but not even a lengthy pouncing session would make the Autobot move. Ravage confessed that Steeljaw was his best friend, which finally got a reaction out of Steeljaw in the form of a threat of bodily harm. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #1|Recordicons #1}} On Earth, Ravage wandered into a dark alley and encountered the celebrity philantropist [[Ratbat (SG)|Ratbat]]. As he asked the member of the frivolous elite for an autograph, the pair were surrounded by scary tough guys, and Ravage was knocked out. When he came to, Ratbat was nowhere to be found and the criminals were all tied up for law enforcement to take away. He was interviewed by the Autobot [[Slamdance (SG)|Slamdance]] regarding this incident, where he made sure to plug his Yatter feed. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #2|Recordicons #2}}

Ravage recounted the Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction tale to [[Buzzsaw (SG)|Buzzsaw]], who pedantically pointed out several incorrect details about the title. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #3|Recordicons #3}} [[Steeljaw (SG)|Steeljaw]] wondered why Ravage thought they were friends, and Ravage reminded him of that time he ate [[Enemy (SG)|Enemy]]'s body. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #4|Recordicons #4}} While they were hiding behind a [[Taco Horn]], Soundwave banned Ravage from updating Yatter. He didn't say anything about [[Boxball]] though, and Ravage's first check-in from a Mexican restaurant was worth 3 points. Unfortunately Ravage had friended [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]], who saw the update and found them. Soundwave was so disappointed. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #6|Recordicons #6}}

[[Image:Recordicons7-futureRavage.jpg|left|thumb|250px|ZOMG!]]

Ravage was startled when his future self stepped through a time warp to tell him not to waste his life on the Internet. He was too busy blogging this happening to take any notice, much to his future self's disgust. His future self tried to salvage the situation by warning Ravage about lending [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]] any money, but Ravage pointed out he was too late for that as Rumble had had met his end in the [[smelting pool]]. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #7|Recordicons #7}}

Ravage happened upon [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]], who was listening to [[Look At Me I Am Waving (Double Trance Mix)|a song]] he claimed that Ravage probably hadn't heard of. Ravage promptly enlightened his avian friend—not only did he know [[Rosanna (SG)|Rosanna]] through Yatter, but she had used his Yatters as lyrics in the song Laserbeak was listening to! {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #8|Recordicons #8}}

[[Image:Recordicons10-RavageRavage.jpg|right|thumb|250px|u mad??]]

While on a [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon|parallel Earth]], Ravage was tracked down by his [[Ravage (G1)|positive universe counterpart]] who intended to end him. When Ravage's request to be allowed to update Yatter was denied, he flew into a rage and attacked the other Ravage. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #10|Recordicons #10}} He was super happy to meet a [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] who wasn't evil and find lots of new Recordicon buddies, though after [[Stripes]] told him that [[Blockrock]] turned into a bomb, he stayed a safe distance from that guy. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #12|Recordicons #12}}

When Steeljaw pointed out that there must be a positive-universe version of himself, Ravage came to the conclusion that the opposite of his friend Steeljaw would be his enemy. Consequently when he met the other Steeljaw, Ravage socked him and made plain to the startled Autobot that they were enemies. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #13|Recordicons #13}} After crashing, Ravage was told by [[Glit (SG)|Glit]] that he shouldn't text while driving. Ravage demanded a second opinion, but positive-universe [[Glit (KP)|Glit]] told him the same thing, causing Ravage to interject that the second Glit was supposed to be evil. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #14|Recordicons #14}}

Ravage accidentally fell out of Soundwave while the latter was disguised as a light pylon, giving their position away to a couple of passing Autobots. As Soundwave complained, Ravage attempted to blame gravity for the mishap. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #17|Recordicons #17}} Ravage used his new friend [[Solarbot]] to fast-charge Steeljaw, as Steeljaw had previously claimed he was too busy solar charging to be Ravage's friend. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #18|Recordicons #18}} Ravage suggested [[Beastbox (SG)|Beastbox]] get an anti-virus after [[Squawktalk (SG)|Squawktalk]] began randomly emitting Internet spam phrases. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #19|Recordicons #19}}

At some point in the future, Ravage was upgraded into a new body and went back in time to warn himself about wasting his time on the Internet. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #7|Recordicons #7}}
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==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
{{anchor|BC01}}
[[Image:BWtoy-TigatronTransmetal.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I can wave! In both modes! =D]]
*'''Tigatron''' (Deluxe, 2001)
**''Accessories'': Tail-whip, left & right pistol barrels

: ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Tigatron]] was officially [[repurposing|repurposed]] as the future form of Shattered Glass Ravage. A [[BotCon 2001]] [[exclusive]], [[Transmetal]] Tigatron is a redeco of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals (franchise)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' [[Ravage (G1)/toys#Metals|Ravage]], which is itself a [[retool]] of Transmetal [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]. He transforms into a mechanical cat with flip-out thruster-wings. His robot-mode arms have spring-loaded flip-out blaster grips, which also have barrel extensions that can be clipped to his legs in beast mode. His tail separates to become a whip weapon, but he doesn't hold it very well. His chest panels open up to reveal a decal; he also came with an extra decal sheet to display other options within his chest, plus Maximal and [[Wrecker]]s [[insignia|faction symbol]] decals for extra customization. Both he and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] were limited to 1200 pieces.

: The original version of this mold was slightly retooled to make ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]]. It was also used as the model for the non-toy character [[Cataclysm (BW)|Cataclysm]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Maximal/Tigatron/tigatron.htm More information on Tigatron on TFU.info]''

===Kiss Players===
[[Image:Glittoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|If I wave I fall over. :~(]]
*'''Cassettron Set Kiss Players Position''' (Multi-pack, 2006)
**''Accessories'': Left & right "multifunctional medical tool boxes"

: ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Glit (KP)|Glit]] was officially [[repurposing|repurposed]] as Shattered Glass Ravage. A [[redeco]] of the original [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] mold, he transforms from a microcassette that can fit into the tape door of the [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys to a robot jaguar. He was available only in an [[e-HOBBY]] [[exclusive]] set with [[Rosanna (KP)|Rosanna]] and [[Sundor]], which also came with a bonus music CD. The Cassettron set was released during the second week of March 2007.

: This mold was also used to make [[Howlback (G1)|Howlback]] and [[Stripes]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Destron/Glit/glit.htm More information on Glit at TFU.info]
::*''[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1131/Kiss-Play/Glit.html Glit toy gallery at Transformertoys.co.uk]
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===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-SGRavage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Glit who, lol!!!]]
*'''Double Punch and Turbomaster''' (BotCon 2010 souvenir set)

: An honest-to-god nonrepurposed Shattered Glass Ravage toy, a redeco of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ravage (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Ravage]], transforms into a "cassette", or "capture mode" according to the original version of the mold's instructions. This mode fits onto the back of his mold-partner "[[Scorch (G1)|Turbomaster]]" via a pair of clips on the vehicle mode that fit into the tape spools. In this mode, Ravage is compatible with the original [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. In jaguar mode, the [[5mm post|5mm holes]] can accommodate Glit's weapons or those of the original Ravage (even though there are tiny versions of the weapons above his hips).

:He was sold in a [[BotCon 2010]] souvenir set along with [[Double Punch]] and "Turbomaster". Unlike those two, Ravage didn't come with a bio card, probably because we know way too much about Ravage already! ''Timelines'' Ravage, like his set-mates, is limited to 1500 pieces.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/BCRavage/ravage.htm More information on Ravage at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
*Shattered Glass Ravage was [http://www.shortpacked.com/2009/comic/book-8/04-guest-strips-and-miscellany/sgravage/ conceived] as a humorous fan-character by [[David Willis]], as a silly inversion of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]'s role as a quiet, stealthy spy. The character gained a bit of a following when Willis set up Twitter and Facebook pages for him as part of the joke, leading to his being officialized with a profile in [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 26|issue 26]] of the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|Transformers Collectors' Club magazine]].
* The blue-and-white jaguar whose corpse appears in [[Drift issue 2|''Drift'' #2]] was drawn into the issue by [[Alex Milne]] at the apparent urging of a friend, who envisioned it as Shattered Glass Ravage and sought to annoy David Willis (who was more amused than anything) by killing him.<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=204657#204657 markerguru's post in "Transformers Drift #1: Reactions, Reviews, Spoilers" from the IDW Publishing Forums]</ref> Because we're a bunch of nerds who'd rather have a bit of fun with it, we've listed it as an appearance of [[Glit (KP)|Generation 1 Glit]] since ''Drift'' #2 is a Generation 1-based story and not a Shattered Glass one.
*He resembles a house cat more than a he does a panther.
*He's the one that's waving!

==Footnotes==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://twitter.com/ravagekitteh Ravage's Twitter feed]
*[https://www.facebook.com/sg.ravage Ravage's Facebook profile]
*[http://www.formspring.me/sgravage Ravage's Formspring.me account]

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[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
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Ravage (SG)

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Team Prime

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:''Team Prime is an [[Autobot]] group from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:Rebellion-Autobotgroupshot.jpg|500px|thumb|''WE ARE LEGEND HEROOOOOOES!!!!'']]

'''Team Prime''', later the '''Beast Hunters''', is the Autobot team stationed in [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Outpost Omega One]], led by none other than Optimus Prime himself.

==Members==
[[Image:DarknessRising1-untappedenergondeposit.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
*'''Autobots'''
**[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (leader)
**[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]
**[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]
**[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]
**[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]
**[[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] (offline)
**[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]
**[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]
**[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]]
**[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]
*'''Humans'''
**[[Jack Darby (Prime)|Jack Darby]]
**[[Raf Esquivel]]
**[[Miko Nakadai]]
**[[William Fowler]]
**[[June Darby]]

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' comic===
Team Prime, then consisting of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], were already based in the missile silo when [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] and [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] answered Optimus's call and arrived on Earth. Optimus and Bumblebee used the [[GroundBridge]] to rescue the two from [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|Prime}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
[[Image:PrimeTS-Autobots.jpg|right|400px|thumb|We could handle Team Edward and Team Jacob.]]
At some point, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, and Ratchet travelled to the planet [[Earth]]. They were appointed [[William Fowler]] as an official human-Cybertronian liaison and given an abandoned missile silo as housing, which was eventually converted into [[Autobot Outpost Omega One]]. Some time afterwards, Team Prime received reinforcements in the shape of Arcee and Cliffjumper, who had commandeered a Decepticon [[space bridge]] in order to reach Optimus Prime's current location. After landing on Earth, they obtained Earth vehicle forms and joined the team. {{storylink|Out of the Past}} After three years of little Decepticon activity, Cliffjumper was killed by [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Some time afterwards, [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] briefly arrived on Earth, but eventually left to continue travelling the stars. {{storylink|Con Job}}. Team Prime continued to cope with a number of threats, including [[Scraplet]]s, {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}} [[MECH]], {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}} attempted infiltration by the Decepticons, {{storylink|Con Job}} Bulkhead's mind almost being overwritten, {{storylink|T.M.I.}} [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]'s drug problems, {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}} and even Megatron himself possessing Bumblebee's mind. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

While they struggled to stop the Decepticons getting components to build a new space bridge, {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} it became clear that there was a larger menace in play—[[Unicron]]. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}} Such was this threat that it required Team Prime to join with Megatron and venture into Earth's core {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}} where they vanquished Unicron, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime's memories. Believing himself to be simple Orion Pax, he left with Megatron, leaving Team Prime with Ratchet as acting leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} The rest of Team Prime endeavored to restore Optimus's memories, leading to Jack and Arcee undertaking a trip to Cybertron to visit [[Vector Sigma]] and successfully bringing Prime back to them. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

While Team Prime dealt with the repercussions of Optimus's temporary defection, [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] returned to Earth and became an honorary member of Team Prime, although he spent much of his time away from base. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}}. The Autobots found themselves in an arms race with the Decepticons to recover Cybertronian relics previously launched into space from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] during the final days of the war. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} {{storylink|Flying Mind}} Bulkhead was later critically injured by the [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]], leaving him gravely injured and unable to fight. {{storylink|Toxicity}} Wheeljack and Miko's ensuing quest for revenge not only killed Hardshell, but alienated the former from the team for putting the latter in harm's way. {{storylink|Hurt}} However, a new Autobot named [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] landed on Earth, and became the newest member of the team. {{storylink|New Recruit}} Bulkhead eventually recovered. {{storylink|Legacy}}

When the Decepticons built [[Darkmount (Earth)|a huge fortress]] outside Jasper and launched an attack on the base - a battle in which Wheeljack and Fowler proved their loyalty to the Autobots when they came to their aid - and Optimus had the team split up while he stayed behind to destroy the GroundBridge. The Decepticons destroyed the base with Optimus still inside. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}} Smokescreen rescued the dying Optimus and hid with him underground as the Decepticons tried to find the scattered Autobots, {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} though Optimus believed his death was imminent and believed Smokescreen to be his successor as leader of the team. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Not long after, [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived on Earth, {{storylink|Scattered}} and was able to reunite Ratchet, Bumblebee, Arcee, Bulkhead, the humans, and Wheeljack. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Magnus led an assault on Darkmount that ended in failure, but when all hope seemed lost, Optimus Prime, returned, having been upgraded by the [[Forge of Solus Prime]] thanks to Smokescreen. The battle was renewed and the fortress came crashing down with help from Agent Fowler. The Autobots regrouped at a military base, and Optimus welcomed Ultra Magnus to the team. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion}} Upon finding out about Megatron's plans of cloning a Predacon army and unleashing it on mankind and the Autobots, Optimus redubbed the team, the "Beast Hunters". Tensions began brewing in the team with the arrival of Ultra Magnus as the new second-in-command,{{storylink|Project Predacon}} climaxing when Magnus nearly caused Wheeljack to leave the team during a Predacon bone hunt in Scotland, {{storylink|Chain of Command (Prime)}} but luckily he is convinced to stay by Arcee. {{storylink|Plus One}} Magnus finally realized his negative effect on the team when they prove to favor Optimus over him, and he and Wheeljack mended their differences when facing off against the newly-sentient [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] after destroying Shockwave's Project Predacon. {{storylink|Evolution}}

When the Decepticons turned their efforts toward stealing Earth's technology for their latest scheme to rebuild the [[Omega Lock]], the Autobots are able to capture [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]], who confesses nothing, and ultimately is freed by [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] and captures Ratchet, taking him back to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Minus One}} The team tried their best to cope without their medic, and devised a plan to find him and the Decepticon's warship, while Ratchet was persuaded to help perfect the synthetic Energon neccesary to restore Cybertron. {{storylink|Persuasion}} Though they failed to find the ''Nemesis'' on their own, Ratchet was eventually able to disable the vessel's shield, letting the entire team storm the ship for a final battle. {{storylink|Synthesis}} Optimus and Megatron battled each other; Jack, Miko and Raf banished Soundwave to the [[Shadowzone (dimension)|Shadowzone]]; the Wreckers engaged the Decepticon troops; and Arcee, Ratchet, and Smokescreen fought Starscream and Shockwave. Bumblebee attempted to get the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] to Optimus, but is killed by Megatron halfway to him. Before he could kill Optimus, Megatron was slain by Bumblebee (restored by the Omega Lock's [[Cyber-matter]])with the Saber. The team took control of the ''Nemesis'' and used the Omega Lock to restore Cybertron, where Knock Out failed to talk his way onto the team. The Autobots returned to Cybertron to rebuild, while Ratchet stayed behind with [[Unit:E]] on Earth. {{storylink|Deadlock}}
[[Image:Team Prime Final.png|left|400px|thumb|New Member!]]

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
Ratchet constructed the [[Safe]], a training room on one of the lower levels of the base. In the process of testing it, the Autobots uncovered a live nuclear bomb. The warhead, which should have been taken away when the base was originally stripped, almost led to the discovery of the base by Vehicons. Luckily Raf was able to keep the bomb busy until Fowler arrived with some scientists to defuse it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}}

[[Image:Titan4.3 ice rink Omega One.jpg|thumb|left|270px]]
The Autobots decorated their base for [[Christmas]], however when Fowler told them the Decepticons had taken over a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]], Optimus left Bulkhead and Arcee behind to work on their differences. On Raf's suggestion, the pair tried to find a common like, and eventually settled on ice skating. Then they turned the base into an indoor ice rink, which Ratchet didn't seem too enthusiastic about. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

When Raf became hypnotised by a video game and activated the GroundBridge, hordes of Vehicons started pouring into the base. Ratchet activated the base's defenses, providing pop-up metal shields as cover while the Autobots fought back. Raf was eventually snapped out of his trance and turned the GroundBridge into a vacuum that sucking the Vehicons back out, though there were a few loose parts left behind. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

== Games ==
=== ''Transformers: Prime - The Game ===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime - The Game}}

==Notes==

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:Prime subgroups]]

Bumblebee (WFC)

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:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:PrimeBee.jpg|thumb|300px|... and, from the Planet of the Mimes, the Copper Kidd!]]
'''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[AllSpark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, and can always be counted on to volunteer for action. His small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger.

He's been on Earth longer than any other Autobot, and he's grown to like and understand [[human]]s, particularly [[Raf Esquivel]] and [[Axel Frazier]]. If you're a Decepticon and you want to threaten any humans, you better not think you can get away with it just because Bumblebee's small and can't talk: he can't talk because his [[voice box]] was ''destroyed'' in combat and he's still kept fighting, because Bumblebee will take any risk and make whatever sacrifice ''necessary'' to win the war.

{{quote|Bumblebee, it wouldn't kill you to exercise caution.|[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Cybertronians that emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] after it had stopped producing life in a lull at the beginning of the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war. Like all born during the war, he joined the Autobots. He became part of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s inner circle with [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]] and [[Prowl (WFC)|Prowl]], and also befriended [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], learning first aid skills from him in the few battles they fought together.

When Optimus ejected the [[AllSpark]] from the Well into space, Bumblebee distracted [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] at [[Tyger Pax]], and paid the ultimate price when the tyrant destroyed his vocoder. Ratchet repaired it, but Bumblebee was only able to speak from time to time. When Megatron stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] underneath the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]], Bumblebee followed him to the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below the ruins of [[Crystal City]] and witnessed him use it to corrupt Cybertron's [[core]] with [[Dark Energon]].

Bumblebee informed Optimus of what he saw, but first he had to serve as part of the extraction unit in Optimus's rescue of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] from [[Kaon]]. Afterwards Optimus, Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] journeyed to the core through the Well. Due to the heavy build up of Dark Energon, Bumblebee found it a distressing experience and lost it when they reached the core, silently tearing out the protruding Corruption Spikes. Though fearful of what would happen, Optimus was able to remove the Chamber and begin Cybertron's healing.

Back at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Optimus announced [[Ark (WFC)|Project Generation One]] to evacuate Cybertron, for the planet could not sustain a fraction of the life it currently supported if it were to survive. Bumblebee boarded the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' with the other elite Autobots and drew out and entered [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. Avoiding Trypticon's corridor drones and [[Mini-Con|Minicons]] they blew up the Dark Energon Facility, causing him to crash. Bumblebee boarded the ''Ark'', which flew him and his friends through the last [[space bridge]] to a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] with the AllSpark detected nearby. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

After passing through the unstable [[space bridge]], Bumblebee and the Autobots aboard the Ark found themselves in the vicinity of a Cybertronian colony world called [[Velocitron]]. Bumblebee was part of Optimus Prime's initial landing team, who made contact with the planet's rulers, [[Override (Prime)|Override]] and [[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]]. It was a time of great stress between Velocitron's rulers, and the Autobots' arrival from mythical Cybertron only exacerbated the situation. Although the Autobots secured an ally in Override, they left Velocitron on the brink of civil war during their departure.

The next leg of their journey through the Space Bridge brought the Autobots to fabled [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]], a world composed entirely of space junk. Bumblebee and the Autobots met [[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]] and his ever-busy people, the Junkions, who maintained an entire planet made of derelict ships and space junk that gravitated together over time. Optimus Prime's Matrix-induced visions led him on a quest through one of the four Space Bridge nodes surrounding Junkion, and he selected Bumblebee and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to accompany him. Through the Bridge they came across the lonely tomb of [[Solus Prime]], fabled artifacer of the [[Thirteen]]. Her holographic spirit was called forth by the Matrix and informed the Autobots that the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]], most deadly of her creations, rested on Junkion and must be kept out of Decepticon hands.

Returning to Junkion, Bumblebee joined the other Autobots in a struggle with the Decepticons aboard the newly arriving ''Nemesis''. The Requiem Blaster was uncovered inside a ship at the planet's core. A weapon capable of drawing infinite power from nearby stellar sources, the Requiem Blaster had its own gravity field, and had literally been the core around which Junkion's "junk" had formed. The fighting over the Requiem Blaster ripped the planet apart, but both sides eventually called off the melee and abandoned the Blaster after learning the location of the Allspark itself. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and the rest of the Autobots boarded the Ark and began the long race to reach their civilization's greatest prize before Megatron could. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

===Coloring pages===
Bumblebee was the first Autobot to arrive on [[Earth]], having been sent there to scout things out.<ref>Bumblebee's [http://www.hubworld.com/hubworld/specials/transformers-prime-downloadables/printables/tprime-bumblebee-coloring-page.pdf online coloring page] at hubworld.com</ref>

===''Prime'' comic===
[[Image:PrimeComicBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I have a mouth?!]]
Bumblebee and Optimus were on [[Earth]] when they detected [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]'s arrival and went to their rescue. After Optimus crushed [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]], Bumblebee sent the Decepticon flying with a single punch, and escorted the others back to base. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|Transformers: Prime}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{Voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]]<ref>''Frank Welker records actual words written for Bumblebee which are later replaced with sound effects.'' -- Revealed in "The Autobits Edition" of [[Darkmount, NV|episode 53]].</ref>, [[Will Friedle]] (English)}}
During the Great War, Bumblebee was captured at [[Tyger Pax]]. The interrogation by Megatron was brutal, but he was later found and a [[Ratchet (WFC)|field medic]] saved his life, though his [[voice box]] was a loss. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

[[Image:Predatory-ArceeBeeCliff.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Hey Cliff, aren't you supposed to be a red version of me?]]
Bumblebee and Cliffjumper invaded [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]'s lair to rescue Arcee and [[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]]. Bumblebee blasted a couple of [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s, but they were too late to save Tailgate. They carried Arcee out as she told them she'd been unable to save her partner. {{storylink|Predatory}}

Years later, after the war, Bumblebee was stationed on [[Earth]] under Optimus Prime's command. He was patrolling a desert area when Optimus ordered everyone back to [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]] so that they could use the [[GroundBridge]] to provide Cliffjumper with backup. They did so, but arrived at the battle site too late—Cliffjumper had been taken by the Decepticons, and apparently killed. The Autobots held a brief memorial for their friend.

[[Image:Bumblebee Bulkhead Arcee Darkness Rising 1.jpg|left|thumb|350px|''Voice actor:'' [[R2-D2]] (English)]]

When Arcee and [[Jack Darby (Prime)|Jack Darby]] were pursued by Decepticons, Bumblebee joined in the chase as it moved onto the freeway. After a brief attempt to slow the Decepticons, he joined Arcee in facing the foe in a drainage canal, accidentally crushing a toy car belonging to [[Raf Esquivel|Rafael Esquivel]]. During the fight Bumblebee was knocked to the ground, and only Raf's timely distraction allowed him to temporarily get the better of the Decepticons, until [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] arrived and helped them scare the Decepticons off.

Optimus was disappointed that humans had gotten involved, and had Bumblebee and Arcee bring them back to the base. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} When [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] detected Cliffjumper's signal, Bumblebee was part of the team that went to try and rescue their comrade. Though he and the others valiantly fought through the multitudes of Decepticons at an energon mine, their mission was ultimately a failure, and they had to return to base hastily as the mine exploded. Prime later assigned him to watch over Raf to keep the boy safe from the Decepticons. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising3-BumblebeeArceevehicles.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Drive on the right side of the road, Bumblebee!]]

The next day, Bumblebee discovered that he was a lot better than Raf at computer games, though Raf blamed it on Bumblebee's greater experience in driving. When they reached the base, Optimus and Ratchet left on a mission, placing Arcee in charge. Arcee promptly went out on patrol, taking Bumblebee with her and leaving Bulkhead in charge. As they drove through the Nevada desert, Bulkhead reported that [[William Fowler|Fowler]] had been abducted by the Decepticons. When it turned out there was no one left at base to bridge them back, Arcee and Bumblebee were forced to drive back. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:DarknessRising4-Bumblebeeshoot.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sting like a bee = die by fire]]

Bumblebee and Arcee arrived at the Decepticon ship in time to rescue Raf and Jack from a pair of Decepticons. They quickly located Bulkhead and [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko Nakadai]], also moving through the ship, but after it became obvious that the humans were in too much danger as they fought their way through the ship, the Autobots cleared out the ship's bridge for the kids to hide out in. They eventually reached the brig where Fowler was being held, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead burst through the main door while Arcee slipped in through a top vent. A standoff ensued, until Fowler distracted Starscream long enough for the Autobots to start firing. Starscream chased off, the Autobots took off with Fowler and rescued the kids on the way out. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Once the Autobots had located the whereabouts of the Decepticon [[space bridge]]—Earth orbit—Optimus, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee used the GroundBridge to reach it. They were spotted by Megatron and Starscream, who sent a force of flying Decepticons to attack them. While they battled, Ratchet determined a way to destroy the space bridge, so Bumblebee and Bulkhead covered Arcee while she followed his instructions. They committed the necessary act of sabotage before Megatron fired on them, hitting Arcee. As the Autobots jumped back into the GroundBridge, Bumblebee collected Arcee's drifting body and carried her back to base where she recovered enough to stand on her own. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

[[Image:Masters&Students-BeeQuake.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Bumblebee comes up with his own version of punch buggy blue.]]
Bumblebee helped Raf with his science project, building a small replica of a volcano while they discussed how Bumblebee had not yet risen to the rank of Warrior. As Optimus pointed out, Bumblebee still had much to learn before he could reach that level. Optimus subsequently picked Bumblebee to go on a mission to investigate Decepticon activity, but warned the smaller Autobot to hold back. When Optimus came to blows with [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], Bumblebee decided to disregard the earlier order and charged into battle. Though he was no match for Skyquake, he and Optimus led the Decepticon into a trap and seemed victorious, until Skyquake [[scanning|scanned]] Fowler's jet. Bumblebee managed to end the fight by jumping onto Skyquake's jet form and causing critical damage, jumping to Fowler's jet as Skyquake crashed to the ground. After some repairs, Optimus commended him on his performance. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Bulkhead and Bumblebee discovered a strange pod in the [[Arctic]] which they brought back to base. When the kids arrived at base, Bumblebee was keen to play some video games with Raf, but he and Bulkhead were roped into helping Ratchet repair the GroundBridge, which broke shortly after Optimus and Arcee used it to go to the Arctic. The cause of the problem was revealed when Raf found a [[Scraplet]], which started gnawing on Bumblebee. Raf killed it with a crowbar before it could do much more damage, but Bumblebee ended up having to search the base with Raf for more of the Scraplets. After finding quite a lot of Scraplets, they returned to the control room, where another mass of them overwhelmed Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Ratchet. Though the kids were able to get rid of the attacking Scraplets, Bumblebee was out of it for the rest of the incident, and ended up on a repair bed, being tended to by the kids. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

When [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] landed on Earth, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee turned out to welcome him and arrived in time to see him trash some Vehicons. The Autobots celebrated their new friend's arrival, and Bumblebee and Raf danced The Robot to Miko's guitar playing. Bumblebee also stood around a lot while Bulkhead proved that "Wheeljack" was a Decepticon spy and the real Wheeljack turned up. After everything was resolved, the Autobots had another party to welcome the real Wheeljack, and Bumblebee got to bust out some more dance moves. He and Arcee turned out with Bulkhead to see Wheeljack off when the Autobot returned to space. {{storylink|Con Job}}

[[Image:Convoy-Bumblebeeboxing.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Jazz (Movie)|YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?! YOU WANT A PIECE?!]] And please don't say you want two, because I know you're not Megatron. ]]

Bumblebee took part in the Autobot convoy to transport Fowler's [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]] across the US countryside. When [[MECH]] attacked them, he bashed into one of the cars they were using, flipping it over. The Autobots successfully passed the D.N.G.S. over to a train, but were shortly after confronted by a squadron of flying Vehicons, and were forced to return to their robot modes to fight. Bumblebee got to try out some boxing moves on a Vehicon, but while the Autobots were occupied, MECH made another attempt to obtain the D.N.G.S. which was foiled by Optimus. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

When an [[Energon Harvester]] was located in a museum, the Autobots surrounded the building while the kids went in to steal it. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] appeared at the front of the museum to attack Optimus, and as Breakdown charged at the museum, Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to stop him. Bumblebee was hit by a missile, sending him tumbling, and then by Arcee who'd just missed catching another missile. He, Arcee and Prime later attempted to track down the Decepticons before the Harvester could be used, but they ended up coming to Bulkhead's rescue after he found and stopped the Decepticons himself. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SpeedMetal-BBvsBreakdown.jpg|thumb|250px|I want a new dance partner.]]
When Arcee refused to go street racing with Jack, Bumblebee was more receptive, though they asked Raf's permission beforehand. Unfortunately also participating in the race was Knock Out, who started firing on Bumblebee. After calling base and letting them know what was up, Bumblebee used an oil slick to slow down Knock Out, and hid under a bridge. They would have escaped detection had another human, [[Vince]], not confronted Jack about apparently pulling out of the race, and Vince was subsequently captured by Knock Out. After Arcee and Bulkhead arrived, the three Autobots pursued Knock Out to a storage facility, where Bumblebee and Bulkhead were ambushed by Breakdown. They defeated Breakdown and caught up with Knock Out. The other 'Con had already been stopped by Optimus, who was very interested in some explanations. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

When Optimus was infected with [[Cybonic plague]], Bumblebee and Arcee GroundBridged to the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure. Bumblebee discovered Megatron had survived their last battle and was recovering in sickbay. Unable to find the cure on the Decepticons' computer, Bumblebee offered to use the [[cortical psychic patch]] to enter Megatron's mind and locate it. Finding himself in a [[Kaon]]ian dreamscape, Bumblebee saw Megatron killing Optimus repeatedly. Megatron realized he could not harm Bumblebee and demanded to know why he was intruding on his mind. Bumblebee reminded him of the space bridge explosion and implored him to give him the cure, playing on his desire to kill Optimus for real rather than have him succumb to a virus. Megatron showed him the cure but demanded Bumblebee help him out of his stasis lock. Ratchet was recording what Bumblebee saw though, and because they had the cure, Arcee disconnected Bumblebee and GroundBridged back to base. However, Megatron's spark had left his body and escaped into Bumblebee's... {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutOfHisHead-evileye.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He is no longer the boy you once knew, [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan]].]]
Bumblebee began to experience visions of Megatron, causing him to stop dead during a basketball game with Bulkhead. After Megatron forced him to crush one of Ratchet's devices, Bumblebee told Ratchet about the visions, and Ratchet induced a power down to give Bumblebee's mind time to recover. Bumblebee reactivated, under the control of Megatron, and, retrieving a piece of Dark Energon from an old battlefield, bridged to the Decepticon warship over the Arctic. Although Ratchet and Raf tried to stop him, even managing to get Bumblebee to reassert control for a few moments, Bumblebee successfully brought Megatron back online and transferred his mind back to his body. Free of Megatron's influence, Bumblebee beat a hasty retreat with Ratchet and Raf. Later at base, Ratchet checked Bumblebee was completely free of Megatron, and the small Autobot thanked Raf for coming to help him. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

After a Dark Energon signature was detected, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to investigate. They instead found Starscream trying to resurrect Skyquake. During the ensuing conflict, the Autobots discovered their human friends had followed them to the battlefield, and the three kids were caught in a freak GroundBridge accident, causing them to disappear.The Autobots returned to base to try and locate their friends, but it wasn't until Bumblebee suggested trying to ring the kids that they found Miko's cellphone, and the kids were able to send a text to it. Ratchet subsequently engineered a portal to rescue the kids from the other dimension they'd become trapped in. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by MECH, Bumblebee and the others were more than happy to leave them to it, but Optimus insisted that they rescue the Decepticon to avoid Cybertronian technology falling into MECH hands. The team arrived in [[Kamchatka Peninsula]] and Bumblebee spotted some vehicle tracks, but they opted instead to follow the energon signal Ratchet had detected. After they escaped the bomb that the trace led them to, the team tracked down Bulkhead in time to chase off Starscream and some Vehicons. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}

Arcee and Bumblebee were in the middle of a fight with some Vehicons when Arcee got a call informing her she had to be in Jack's garage ASAP. After checking if Bumblebee could handle it, Arcee left. Evidently he was able to, as he was later in the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee turned up with [[June Darby]]. {{storylink|Crisscross}}

[[Image:Partners-BeepunchesAirachnid.jpg|thumb|250px|[[wikipedia:Cyborg_(comics)|Boo-yah]]!]]
Bumblebee was part of the team that investigated the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]] and found Airachnid and Starscream. He guarded the bound Starscream while the others decided what to do with the Decepticon. Prime, Bulkhead and Bumblebee went to check out the rear half of the ship, crashed some distance away, and were ambushed by Airachnid who had found an experimental weapon named the [[Immobilizer]]. She froze Prime and Bulkhead, but Bumblebee managed to trick her by kicking up a dust cloud with his guns, and then pretending to be frozen after she fired the Immobilizer into it. Once she turned her back, he crept up and sucker punched her before blasting the Immobilizer. After she fled, Bumblebee went back to find Arcee, and interrupted her when she was about to offline Starscream. They returned the pieces of Immobilizer to base, along with Bulkhead and Optimus, and Ratchet was able to repair the device and unfreeze their comrades. {{storylink|Partners}}

Bumblebee accompanied Prime and Arcee as they tried to retrieve a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] before the Decepticons did. Ultimately the Decepticons made off with the cylinder, and later Bumblebee listened as Ratchet told them the cylinder's contents had ended up in Bulkhead's brain, though the Autobots were excited to find that the equations being scrawled by Bulkhead were a set of formula for synthetic energon. Unfortunately it later turned out that the data was eating Bulkhead's brain. Bumblebee and Arcee accompanied Optimus on an unsuccessful attempt to get the cylinder back from Megatron, and they ended up fighting a bunch of Vehicons. Later they came to Miko and Bulkhead's aid to save the pair from Knock Out and Breakdown, and were present when Miko managed to rouse the comatose Bulkhead with her guitar. {{storylink|T.M.I.}}

During a mission to stop Knock Out and Breakdown who were transporting energon, Bumblebee, Prime and Bulkhead were separated from Arcee. They caught up to find that Ratchet had already dealt with the Vehicons who'd been attacking Arcee, and they returned to base where Ratchet revealed he'd taken the synthetic energon he'd been working on. Ratchet, amped up on the substance, insisted on going on their next mission, which meant Bumblebee got left at base operating the GroundBridge. The other Autobots returned minus Ratchet, who had gone to tackle Megatron on his own. Once they'd gotten a fix on Ratchet's signal, they left Bumblebee at base again. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-BumblebeeRaf.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I didn't mean to break it]]
Bumblebee was taking Raf to play with Raf's remote-control car when he was called on to join the battle at a military base. Unfortunately Megatron found them before he could drop Raf off, and Bumblebee was hit by a blast from Megatron's cannon. Though Bumblebee himself was mostly unaffected, Raf was gravely injured. Bumblebee arrived at the battle and had to be restrained from attacking Megatron so he and Arcee could take Raf back to base. Bumblebee watched helplessly as Ratchet and June Darby tried to save the boy. At one point, the frustration became too much, and he knocked a chunk out of the wall with his fist, but Arcee talked him down, and eventually Ratchet worked out that an energon infusion would save Raf. Bumblebee gave some of his own energon for the procedure, which was ultimately successful. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

After the other Autobots saved Optimus from Megatron, Bumblebee bridged them back to base. June decided to take Raf to the hospital, and didn't intend to bring him back, so Bumblebee had to sadly watch them drive from the base. When it transpired that the Dark Energon volcano was causing global disasters, he went to find June and Raf, and managed to save them from a tornado by grabbing the front end of their car. After he returned to base with them, the assembled Autobots and humans worked out that [[Unicron]] was at the center of the Earth. He and the other Autobots began investigating the sites of the earthquakes Unicron had generated. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Though Optimus ordered the other Autobots to remain at base, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead joined him anyway. They fought increasingly larger stone Unicrons, until to their surprise, help came in the form of Megatron. When Optimus gave the other three Autobots the choice of whether to accompany him and Megatron to Earth's core, Bumblebee opted to go for Raf's sake. He, Arcee and Bulkhead greeted Megatron to the Autobot base by aiming their guns at him. Before long, they stepped through the GroundBridge once again, this time into Earth's core. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they made their way through Unicron's internals, they encountered [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]] which aggressively attacked them. When during the fight Bulkhead almost fell to his doom, Bumblebee grabbed his arm and held him long enough for Optimus to help. He, Bulkhead and Arcee remained outside Unicron's spark chamber to hold off the antibodies, but after Unicron's defeat, they entered to find Optimus had lost his memory. The trio had to GroundBridge back to base without their leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

The Autobots puzzled over how to get their leader back but made little progress. When Fowler warned them of an attack on a military base, Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Arcee went to try and deal with it, but Knock Out and Breakdown succeeded in getting away with the power source they needed. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} Bumblebee and the others fruitlessly searched for the space bridge until a breakthrough came in the form of information from Starscream. Using said information, the Autobots stormed the mine containing the space bridge and secured it so they could send Jack and Arcee through to Cybertron. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}} Ratchet, Bulkhead and Bumblebee monitored Jack's progress from the Earth end of the space bridge. When Megatron arrived to take back control, Bumblebee was grabbed by the head and tossed aside. Luckily it all turned out, and Bumblebee and the others returned to base with Optimus Prime restored. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee1 Bumblebee's new ride.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Privacy please"]]
During a mission to retrieve a Cybertronian artifact, Bumblebee followed Megatron into the Decepticon GroundBridge and snatched the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]] right out of his hand. Responding to another signal, Bumblebee was ambushed by MECH, who took his [[transformation cog|T-cog]]. Unable to transform, he became more and more testy despite the attempts of Raf to cheer him up. Bumblebee finally talked Bulkhead into taking him along on on a mission to find another artifact, only for his lack of a T-cog to become a liability as he tried to chase Knock Out. The pursuit ended when Bumblebee plunged out-of-control off a cliff. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee2 Bumblebee damaged T-cog.jpg|thumb|left|250px|My precious...]]
When he came around back at base, Optimus restricted him to base. After an attempt to transplant Ratchet's T-cog into him was aborted, Bumblebee was pointed in the direction of the MECH base and opted to go on a one-bot assault. Though he floored Starscream and MECH in the process of getting the cog back, the vital component was blasted by Starscream. After some repair work by Ratchet, the T-cog was reinstalled in Bumblebee, and his ability to [[transformation|transform]] restored. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

Bumblebee and the others came to Wheeljack's aid when he returned to Earth to battle [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}} Bumblebee was part of an Optimus-led mission to an abandoned energon mine in [[South America]], where they found Megatron fighting an [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]]. When the fight was finished, the Autobots surrounded the exhausted Megatron, but were prevented from finishing him off by the arrival of Dreadwing. Though they trashed a bunch of Vehicons, Megatron and Dreadwing escaped them. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

When Fowler was attacked by a truck resembling Optimus, Bumblebee caught his car as it plunged from a bridge. Returning to base, they established the truck was a MECH-created clone of Optimus, and began searching for the MECH base. Bumblebee found the hideout, but after alerting the other Autobots, was knocked out by [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]]. Following Optimus's defeat of MECH, the Autobots returned to base for repairs. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (episode)|Nemesis Prime}} Bumblebee went with Optimus and Arcee to investigate some Decepticon activity and found Airachnid sending out a swarm of Insecticons. He and Optimus ended up having to fight a bunch of them and won. They got to return to base with Airachnid, whom Arcee had stasis-locked. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}}

After the ''Nemesis'' crashed, Bumblebee took part in an attack on it with the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]], only to be put into stasis by its weapons. He recovered back at base once the kids disabled the ship. {{storylink|Flying Mind}} Bumblebee was sent to [[New York City]] with Arcee, Jack and Miko to look for one of the Iacon relics. In the subway, they ran into Knock Out and an Insecticon, the latter of which temporarily floored Bumblebee. He recovered in time to pursue Knock Out, catching up with the Decepticon and getting the relic back. The relic turned out to be a [[phase shifter]], which saved Bumblebee from being hit by an out-of-control sweeper train. After they chased Knock Out off, Bumblebee and Arcee were introduced to [[Vogel]]. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}}

They returned to base to find Bulkhead critically injured after his mission, and Bumblebee and Arcee helped get the Wrecker to the medical bay. {{storylink|Hurt}} During Bulkhead's recovery period, Bumblebee arrived back at base to find Miko was upset at her friend's lack of progress. {{storylink|Out of the Past}} Bumblebee was part of Optimus's team investigating a crashed escape pod when they encountered [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]. When Raf discovered the presence of [[Red Energon]] on Earth, Optimus, Arcee and Bumblebee headed to a dock to retrieve it, only to run into Starscream and the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]]. Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to scale the crane but were attacked by Starscream, and Smokescreen had to come to their rescue using the phase shifter. {{storylink|New Recruit}}

When Fowler notified them that a [[Project Damocles]] satellite had been stolen by Breakdown and Silas, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to a military base in the hope of securing the satellite control codes before the Decepticons could get them. Instead they found themselves facing both Decepticon troopers and the orbital death ray itself, controlled by Soundwave. {{storylink|The Human Factor}} During an energon hunt, Bumblebee tried to stop Smokescreen harassing a human, resulting in them both getting their picture on the net. Bumblebee later accompanied Optimus on a search for another Iacon relic, which turned out to be a Decepticon hoax, and helped secure the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|Legacy}}

[[Image:HardKnocksBumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Well, it's not a couch, but... it'll have to do.]]
After Optimus received a message from [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] revealing the existence of the [[Omega Key]]s, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead were happy that they might soon be able to restore Cybertron, but quickly realized there would be a downside in that they would have to leave their friends on Earth behind. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}} Bumblebee was sent with Arcee to retrieve one of the keys, but they encountered Knock Out. Bumblebee was significantly damaged by the [[Resonance Blaster]] before the Decepticon got away with the key, and had to undergo repairs when the two Autobots returned to base. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}} After Smokescreen escaped the ''Nemesis'' with two of the Omega Keys, the Autobots received a message from Starscream offering a trade for the fourth and final key. Bumblebee guarded the base with Smokescreen and Arcee, but using Red Energon, Starscream was able to infiltrate the base and steal their three keys anyway. {{storylink|Inside Job}}

As the Autobots equipped themselves to go to Cybertron in a last-ditch attempt to stop the Decepticons from using the [[Omega Lock]], Bumblebee took the [[polarity gauntlet]] from storage. During their battle with the Decepticons, he used it to reclaim the Omega Keys. The Autobots subsequently found the Omega Lock, only for the Decepticons to unveil their trump card in the form of the three kids as hostages. {{storylink|Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration}} Bumblebee was forced to hand over his Omega Key in exchange for Raf. After Optimus destroyed the Omega Lock to prevent Megatron destroying Earth, Bumblebee returned with the others to base, only to find that the Decepticons were attacking it. The Autobots were forced to abandon base, and Bumblebee and Raf bridged to a point somewhere in the US. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}}

[[File:DarkmountNV-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Fired?]]
After changing his paint scheme to foil the searching Vehicons, Bumblebee headed back towards Jasper with Raf. {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} When Raf discovered a photo of Ratchet on a conspiracy website, the pair tracked him down in a junkyard and tried to convince him to help them use the ''Harbinger''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> systems. Apparently failing, Bumblebee and Raf went to the derelict ship themselves, and were joined shortly afterwards by Ratchet, who had had a change of heart. {{storylink|Scattered}} They managed to get some of the ship's systems working before Bumblebee spotted a starship incoming, which turned out to be [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] with most of the rest of Team Prime. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Bumblebee and Arcee joined the attack on [[Darkmount (Earth)|Darkmount]], acting as a "stealth team" and infiltrating the citadel under cover of a diversion. Unfortunately they ran into heavy resistance and were taken captive, but when Optimus Prime arrived to join the assault, they renewed their attack on the Decepticons. Following the destruction of Darkmount, the Autobots assembled at a human military base. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion}}

When it turned out the Decepticons were aiming to clone more Predacons, Optimus took Bumblebee and Smokescreen with him to [[Texas]] to investigate Decepticon activity. Despite the trio's best efforts, they were unable to prevent Shockwave and Soundwave obtaining more Predacon [[CNA]]. {{storylink|Project Predacon}}

Bumblebee and the others took time out from hunting for Predacon fossils to secure some energon supplies, unaware it was part of a Decepticon plan to deceive the newly-intelligent [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]]. {{storylink|Evolution}} He became upset when Smokescreen suggested that his broken voicebox was his "signature", as he would prefer to have his own voice back. He and the other Autobots attempted to stop the Decepticons from executing a series of raid on human technology, and were caught in a fire fight at the [[Solaris particle collider]] in Antarctica. {{storylink|Minus One}} Though they fought their way through the Decepticons, they were ultimately unable to stop the Decepticons stealing the needed technology, and on top of this, when they returned to base it was to find Ratchet had been abducted by Soundwave. {{storylink|Persuasion}} They launched the probe and monitored it and Optimus's progress from the base. Though the probe was destroyed, Ratchet was able to send them the coordinates to the Decepticon warship, and Bumblebee and the others geared up in preparation to assault the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Synthesis}}

[[File:Tfp bee down.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Eat your spark out, Optimus.]]
Bumblebee joined Arcee and Smokescreen in heading for the Omega Lock control room, though Smokescreen left them for a mission of his own. Despite encountering heavy resistance from Starscream, Arcee and Bumblebee made it to the control room, and when Smokescreen arrived with the Star Saber, Bumblebee attempted to pass the weapon to Optimus. As he jumped, he was hit by three blasts from Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] and died, however, he fell into the Omega Lock's energy field which restored him, including his damaged voice box. Bumblebee took the opportunity to impale Megatron with the Star Saber, killing the Decepticon leader. With the ''Nemesis'' secured, the Autobots were able to take the ship to Cybertron, where they used the Omega Lock to restore their home world. Bumblebee gave Raf a sad farewell before he and the other Autobots returned home. {{storylink|Deadlock}}

{{Spoiler|Predacons Rising (Prime)|November 4, 2013}}
In the aftermath of Cybertron's rebirth, Bumblebee was promoted to warrior, shortly before Optimus went off to find the AllSpark. With the discovery that there were two new Predacons on the loose, Bumblebee led a team of Autobots to find Predaking, but was unsuccessful in persuading him to help them. After encountering Unicron, in possession of Megatron's rebuilt form, the Autobots realized that the dark god intended to destroy their world. After foiling an attempt by Starscream to retake the warship, the Autobots attempted to defend the Well of All Sparks from Unicron's onslaught. It was only when Optimus returned that Unicron was defeated, and Bumblebee was later present when Optimus sacrificed himself to restore the AllSpark to Cybertron. {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}}

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Titan4.3 Bumblekick.jpg|thumb|left|250px|BUMBLEKICK!]]
Bumblebee took part in the testing of Ratchet's newly developed [[Safe]]. After Bulkhead uncovered a nuke which attracted the attention of some Vehicons, Bumblebee, Optimus and Arcee went out to deal with the 'Cons. As Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Optimus and Arcee blasted them, though Bumblebee was less than happy with the arrangement as he wanted to get to shoot them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}} Optimus took the other Autobots, including Bumblebee, on a trip to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Bumblebee was playing video games with Raf when Fowler reported that the Decepticons had commandeered a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]] near [[Antarctica]]. Optimus, Bumblebee and Ratchet GroundBridged to the ship, but on arrival Ratchet was knocked out by Starscream's [[static lance]]. Bumblebee attacked the Decepticon, dodging a swipe of the lance and then delivering a kick. Once he had possession of the lance, Bumblebee threw it to Optimus, who used it to defeat Megatron. After guiding the ship to its destination, the trio returned to base, which had been turned into an ice rink for some reason. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Raf and Bumblebee stopped off at [[Plug and Play]] to pick up Raf's copy of ''[[Invasionauts II]]''. Later at the base, Bumblebee found that Raf had let a bunch of Vehicons into the base, and was about to shut the [[GroundBridge]] down, when Raf stopped him. Raf, who had been temporarily hypnotised by the game, instead shut the bridge down in a way that sucked the remaining Vehicons back through and kept the location of the base concealed from the enemy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

[[Image:Titan4.9 Bumblebee and Bulkhead.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I R serious Bee. this is serious wiki.]]
After the [[President of the United States]] was kidnapped, the Autobots traced the culprit, Starscream, to the [[Grand Canyon]]. Bumblebee and Arcee teamed up to take out the cannons manned by Vehicons that Starscream had brought along. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|All the President's 'Bots!}} Bulkhead and Bumblebee retrieved Knock Out's [[neuron refractor]] from China, unaware that a MECH agent had stowed away in it. After [[Novo|Agent Novo]] kidnapped Miko, the Autobots searched for the two humans, and located the MECH base in time for Novo, now occupying a mechanoid body, to return Miko. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.9|The Novo Incident}}

Bumblebee was on a team which went to the [[Deep Driller]] oil rig and fell into [[Rufus Madison|General Madison]]'s trap, finding themselves facing soldiers in [[robotic battle suit]]s. Bumblebee was able to defeat a couple of them by tricking them into bringing a crane down on themselves. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.10|Mad Dogs & Autobots}} Bumblebee took part in a mission to the ''Nemesis'' to rescue Bulkhead. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.11|The Battle for Bulkhead}}

During a battle in [[The Wave]], Bumblebee tried to protect the three kids, only to be knocked down by a projectile from [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]. Ratchet patched him up and sent him back to base with Raf, but after the pair fell asleep watching a horror cartoon, Soundwave's disembodied hand crawled out of Bumblebee's chest wound and tried to kill them. Raf helped Bumblebee dispose of the hand, leaving their next task to explain to the arriving Autobots why the base was in such a mess. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.12|The Evil Shred}}

Bumblebee and Prime went on a stealth mission to stop Megatron destroying the [[Statue of Liberty]], but didn't last long until they were discovered. As Megatron immediately began climbing the statue, Optimus left Bumblebee to deal with the other Decepticons on his own, though he claimed he was brave enough to. As Megatron was about to decapitate the statue, Bumblebee threw one of the Vehicons at him, almost knocking him off. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.13|Protecting the Lady}}
===Mega-Mouth===
One of Arcee's nicknames for Bumblebee is "the Big Buzz". {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.14|Mega-Mouth #14}}

===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
{{Voiceactor|[[Nicole Dubuc]]}}
[[Image:Bttr bumblebee blades.jpg|thumb|left|280px|My name is Bumblebee, and I approve this crossover.]]
Bumblebee tracked a meteor to [[Wayward Island]], and ran into the [[Rescue Bot]]s and their attendant humans during his search. After joining up with them to find the meteorite, he returned with them to [[Griffin Rock]] and reported back to [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], who ordered him to spend some time with the team. When three of the Rescue Bots were stricken with a strange virus, Bumblebee helped out in a rescue, following which he accompanied the humans back to Wayward Island to deal with the meteorite. He ended up stuck in an undersea trench after rescuing [[Graham Burns]], and was himself rescued by [[Blades (RB)|Blades]]. Faced with an out-of-control bomb, the two Bots used it to destroy the meteorite, but were infected by the virus themselves. Luckily Bumblebee had picked up a sample of the meteorite which was used to find a cure to the virus, and after some photos, Bumblebee returned home. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}}

When the Rescue Bots were sent back in time to [[1939]], Bumblebee and Optimus went to Griffin Rock to embark on a journey back in time to help. They arrived in time to rescue the four Bots from [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]] and returned with them to the [[Temporal Station|time machine]]. Back in the present, however, they found themselves in a Griffin Rock overrun with [[MorBot]]s. {{storylink|It's a Bot Time}} Optimus and Bumblebee were kept busy trashing MorBots while the Rescue Bots worked out what was going on. By the time the pair ran out of MorBots, the team was ready to return to 1939, where they rescued [[Dither]] from Morocco, restoring the timeline to normal, before traveling back to the present. {{storylink|Bot to the Future}}
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===''Tales of the Beast Hunters''===
Searching for a way to combat [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], Bumblebee stumbled on data stored with an Iacon relic pointing to the location of a derelict starship containing a cache of weapons, hidden in the [[asteroid belt]]. He contacted [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 1}} and the pair blasted off in the [[Jackhammer (Prime)|Jackhammer]]. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 2}} Surprisingly the found the ship and the weapons it contained, only to find they'd been followed by [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and Predaking. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 4}} [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]] soon came to their aid via GroundBridge {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 5}} and was able to keep the enemy busy long enough for Bumblebee and Wheeljack to escape with some of the weapon crates. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 6}} Bumblebee was nonetheless left injured and unable to go on further missions. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 10}}

When Bumblebee finally recovered, Ratchet assigned him to light duties patrolling with [[Prowl (WFC)|Prowl]]. Resenting the fact that everyone else was off fighting Predacons, Bumblebee was almost resigned to the most boring mission ever when Megatron turned up. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 23}} Bumblebee didn't get to take part in the fight though, because Prowl opted to let Megatron duke it out with the swarm of Predacons which promptly attacked the Decepticon leader. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 24}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)|[[Renato Novara]] (Italian)}}

[[Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The time has come and so have I... I'll laugh last 'cause you came to die.]]
During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.

[[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Autobots... [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?"]]]]
Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, and Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. Soon, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After they fought off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Optimus then explained he could not open the other prisoners' cells, despite Bumblebee's pleas. Heading to retrieve Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility, so the control wouldn't release him. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots.

During the evacuation of Cybertron, Megatron used Trypticon Station to fire on the Autobots' escape pods. After the Aerialbots destroyed Trypticon's conversion cog and sent him plummeting to the planet's surface, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus Prime and Ironhide to look for the crash site. Once Trypticon was found to still function, Bumblebee assisted in fighting him, overloading his shoulder cannons with energon batteries and destroying his heat vents. After greatly damaging Trypticon, Oprimus Prime declared Trypticon had lost and knocked him into an energon lake with his axe. Afterward, Bumblebee was present at the unveiling of the Ark, where he reminded Optimus Prime that Megatron was "still out there". {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)}}
{{quote|Watch out, Decepticons! I'm kind of a big deal!|Bumblebee}}
[[Image:WFCDS Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|89px|Small, but noisy.]]
When a distress call from Zeta Prime was received by the Autobots, they sent Bumblebee to find Optimus so they could repair the communications system. Bumblebee and Optimus were seen battling Decepticons together by an Autobot rookie when he arrived at the Autobot base. When Optimus was later disabled by [[laser guard]]s, Bumblebee was instrumental in reviving him, and helped him defeat [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]]. After the Autobots retook [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Bumblebee exploded verbally at Ironhide, complaining that they'd already lost the war. Optimus told him that that attitude was just what Megatron wanted.

Prime's transmissions led the Autobots to infiltrate Kaon Prison, a place Bumblebee found terrifying to the point where Ironhide had to try and calm him and Optimus told them both to quiet down. They eventually found Zeta Prime, in time for their leader to expire. After Optimus was made the new Prime, the Autobots tried to enlist the help of [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]. Bumblebee slyly goaded Grimlock into challenging Optimus to a contest, however instead the Autobots ended up rescuing Swoop who'd been kidnapped by the Decepticons. The Autobots were forced to venture down to Cybertron's core to disable the Dark Energon corruptors, so that Cybertron's core could begin repairing itself, however the planet was left unable to sustain Transformer life.

As the Autobots began to evacuate in arks, Trypticon station began firing on them. Optimus prepared to take a team to the station to attack it from the inside, and Bumblebee was the first to volunteer to go along. They infiltrated the station and destroyed its power core, causing it to plunge from orbit. To the Autobots' surprise, the station transformed into a monster which Bumblebee found terrifying, but he still took part in the battle to destroy it. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)|[[Renato Novara]] (Italian)}}

In order to find out more about "Trypticon", Bumblebee and Ironhide were ordered to infiltrate a Decepticon datacore and extract the info stored inside it. Looking for a back way in, Ironhide uncovered a transit shaft, but it was too small for him to reconnoiter. Splitting up, Bumblebee took the shaft while Ironhide circled around to find another way in. Inside the datacore, they retrieved the intel on Trypticon, but were unable to escape without being noticed. The ruckus they raised in Kaon caught Megatron's attempt, and he arrived to fell both Autobots before they made it out of the city-state. Megatron subjected Bumblebee to a neural scanner to forcibly extract Autobot secrets from his mind. Bumblebee struggled to resist the scanner, but still unwillingly gave up some intel before Ironhide broke them both free. They eventually made it out of Kaon in one piece, thanks in part to the air support provided by Air Raid.

After the power supply was cut off to Trypticon from the Geosynchronous Energy Bridge, the Autobots began to prep supplies for their evacuation of the planet. On one such supply convoy, Bumblebee ran defensive reconnaissance to protect the convoy from Decepticon attack. Bumblebee blamed himself for allowing the decepticons to access his mind using the neural scanner, and was extra dedicated to the mission in his effort to redeem himself, even if only in his own eyes. He uncovered an ambush plot on the roadway, and alerted Optimus to the threat. Taking point, he intervened on several other ambush attempts along the way.

After Trypticon Station fell to Cybertron's surface and revealed itself as a gi-normous transforming creature, Bumblebee joined Optimus Prime and Ironhide in racing to the crash site to finish him off. They were separated during the journey, and had to fight through multiple Decepticon vanguards before even reaching Trypticon. Eventually, it was the combined firepower and teamwork of the Autobot forces that brought down the dangerous dinosaur. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}
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===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh my God, they killed Kenny! You bastards!]]
As the Autobots worked towards preparing the [[Ark (WFC)|Ark]] for launch, the Decepticons attacked the city. Bumblebee was helping out [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] with the wounded when [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] arrived, and helped with an injured soldier. He was part of the bridge crew when the ship launched, and when they were intercepted by the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'', defended the bridge alongside Optimus. Prime left to tend to the engine room, and Bumblebee was sent to replace a [[moleculon fuse|fuse]] so they could get the defense systems back up and running. He succeeded, allowing the ''Ark'' to start returning fire on the Decepticon ship, and began heading for the engine room. By the time he got there, Optimus and [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] were engaged in a ferocious battle, with Optimus losing. As Megatron fired off a killing shot, Bumblebee threw himself in the way and took the shot to the chest. Enraged, Optimus renewed his assault on Megatron, but a short time later both ships were sucked through the [[space bridge]] portal. {{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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=== ''Transformers: Prime - The Game ===
[[Image:Transformers prime the game bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I should probably say something...but that might be difficult.]]

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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in ''Tron 3.0.'']]
*'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' Handgun
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)#Toys|War for Cybertron]]'' Cybertronian Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a "Cybertronian courier mode". His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun is held via [[5mm post]], and can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode. Bumblebee's head appears to have [[light-piping]], but his eyes are painted over in blue, thus rendering the gimmick neutered. His legs are generally loose at the mid-thigh joint due to being used for transformation.

:He and Cybertronian [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Generations|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#United|Bumblebee Cybertron Mode]], as well as [[retool]]ed into ''Generations/War for Cybertron'' [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] and ''United'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)#United|Cliffjumper Cybertron Mode]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Rescue Bots===
[[File:RescueBots Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dear God, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|they're]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|crossbreeding!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (2011)
:Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car which presumably can be used by the humans in the rescue team to speed to problem sites, while staying within the speed limit, of course. Tugging either end of the vehicle will [[autotransformation|autotransform]] him back into robot mode.

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[[File:RescueBots Garage Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Bumblebee enjoys hiding underneath cars that look like him.]]
*'''Bumblebee Rescue Garage''' (2011)
**''Accessories:'' Bumblebee, Axel Frazier
:The [[Bumblebee Rescue Garage]] comes with a smaller Bumblebee toy not unlike an [[Robot Powered Machines|RPM]] or [[Speed Stars]] toy in function. Standing the vehicle on end reveals Bumblebee's robot mode embossed on its underside. The back of Bumblebee's car mode also has a cavity in which the included Axel Frazier figure can ride.

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[[File:RescueBots Energize Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Bumblebee''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Jackhammer
:Bumblebee's original ''Rescue Bots'' mold was retooled to add sockets onto his hood and released as part of the "Energize" line. He also features translucent blue plastic on his hood and doors, and has a jackhammer accessory made from the same plastic which plugs into the sockets on his hood.

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[[File:RescueBots Electronic Energize Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Electronic Bumblebee''' (2013)
:A larger non-transforming toy, Bumblebee features electronic lights and sounds. His right-hand is replaced by a "rescue drill" which oddly resembles ''Animated'' [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s [[stinger (weapon)|stinger]]s and which spins when you press a button on his right forearm.

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[[File:RescueBots Bumblebee and GrahamBurns.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Bumblebee and Graham Burns''' (2013)
:Available in a two-pack with [[Graham Burns]], Bumblebee is a non-transforming but articulated figure, appearing rather more [[show-accuracy|show accurate]] than his previous ''Rescue Bots'' toys. His left hand is morphed into a blue jackhammer.

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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianBumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The Grid. A digital frontier. I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': Handgun

: ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' '''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' is a [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of ''Generations'' Cybertronian Bumblebee, with most of the original version's black plastic changed to gray, clear blue headlights and rims, red tint for the windows, most of the red paint details changed to blue, and additional blue circuitry paint details resembling the "overshield" effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game. He was only available in a three-pack with redecos of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Transformers (2010)|Cybertronian Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (WFC)#Transformers (2010)|Cybertronian Megatron]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/TRUROCBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on "Rage over Cybertron" Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Cyberverse===
[[Image:Prime-toy BumblebeeCyberverse.jpg|thumb|300px|I think my gun overheated...]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Series / Number:'' '''2 / 001'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[March 21]], 2012'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-04'''
**''Accessories:'' Blaster

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 2|Series 2 ''Cyberverse'']] Legion Class toys, Bumblebee transforms into an [[Urbana 500]] muscle car. He features numerous [[C joint|3mm port]]s for mounting Cyberverse weapons, such as on his hands, doors/arms, and roof/back.

:He comes with a blaster (modeled after his in-show cannon) that features two 3mm posts and a port, and is cast in soft translucent red plastic. This weapon, in a variety of colors, is also used by ''Cyberverse'' [[Arcee (WFC)#Cyberverse|Arcee]], [[Evac (Ride)#Cyberverse|Evac]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Hyperspeed|Hyperspeed Wheeljack]], [[Tailgate (Prime)|Autobot Tailgate]] and the [[Bumblebee (WFC)#CyberverseBattlesuit|redeco]] of Bumblebee that comes with the [[Bumblebee Battle Suit]] (see below).

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/LegBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cyberverse Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-Cyberverse-QuickbladeBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Quickblade Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Series / Number:'' '''2 / 011'''
**''Accessories:'' Combat blade

: Part of the third wave of ''Prime Cyberverse'' Legion Class toys, Quickblade Bumblebee is a redeco of Legion Class Bumblebee in black with yellow stripes. He comes with a "combat blade", a soft translucent-green blade weapon that can mount/be held via any of its four 3mm pegs. In varying colors, it was used by [[Ratchet (WFC)#Cyberverse|Ratchet]], [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Cyberverse|Cliffjumper]], [[Knock Out (Prime)#CyberverseSingle|Knock Out]], and ''Dark of the Moon'' [[Mirage (Movie)#Cyberverse|Mirage]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/LegQBBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Quickblade Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-Cyberverse-BumblebeeBattleSuit-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|... Oh, nevermind. It's all cool now.]]
*'''Bumblebee Battle Suit''' (Cyberverse Vehicle, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 003'''
**''Accessories:'' Large missile-firing blaster, missile, small double-barreled blaster

: Part of the second wave of ''Prime Cyberverse'' Vehicle playsets, the [[Bumblebee Battle Suit]] comes with a redeco of Legion Class Bumblebee, who features brighter, paler yellow plastic, trades in his black stripes for sparkly dark-blue, replaces his silver-painted windshields with metallic light-blue, switches the silver on his abdomen and shins with metallic dark-blue, replaces the black grill with silver, omits the stripe portions at the center of the hood, and removes the silver on his feet. In addition to the suit's other accessories, Bumblebee still comes with his double-barreled blaster, with the color changed from translucent red to translucent light blue.

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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-Cyberverse-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)
**''Series / Number:'' '''3 / 004'''
**''Accessories'': Eagleshot Bow

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 3|Series 3 ''Cyberverse'']] Legion Class toys, Bumblebee is a redeco and significant "retool" (in the loosest sense of the term; ''literally'' every single part except for his wheels and the shoulder joints is modified) of Legion Class Bumblebee, transforming into a heavily armed Urbana 500 muscle car with spikes covering the front wheels, sculpted missile launchers and boosters/blasters on the doors, armor panels at the rear, and a large version of his double-barreled blaster sculpted onto his hood, the barrels of which end up mounted on his chest/shoulders in robot mode. He sports various 3mm ports in the same places the original Legion Class toy did.

:He comes with the "[[Eagleshot Bow]]", a crossbow which has two 3mm ports and three posts, allowing it to mount/be mounted in different ways. This bow, in varying colors, was also used by [[Airachnid (Prime)#Cyberverse|Airachnid]], [[Windrazor (Prime)#Toys|Windrazor]], and [[Rippersnapper (Prime)#Toys|Rippersnapper]].

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*'''Energon Driller with Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Vehicle, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''3 / 003'''
**''Accessories:'' Prod, saw, Eagleshot Bow, Energon Booster

: The only new product from the second wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters Cyberverse'' Vehicle playsets, the [[Energon Driller]] (a redeco of the Series 2 Driller stripped of its electronics) comes with a redeco of Legion Class Series 3 Bumblebee, who features an ever-so-slightly darker shade of yellow plastic, black instead of charcoal wheels and hip and shoulder joints, dark metallic blue instead of black paint details for his front bumper, windscreen, shins and forearms/vehicle mode doors, black instead of silver paint operations for the face and the double-barreled blaster on the hood, and less saturated blue paint operations for the eyes.

: He comes with blue redecos of the Series 2 Driller's prod and saw accessories, which were originally meant for [[Knock Out (Prime)#Cyberverse|Knock Out]], as well as the Eagleshot Bow. The Energon Booster (originally part of the Series 2 Vehicles' light-up gimmick) is also included as a separate piece no longer connected to the Driller by a power cable, and can also be used by Bumblebee as a hand-held weapon.

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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeNYCC.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sorry, you won't actually be able to ride one of these in New York.]]
*'''Bumblebee and Arcee, Includes Raf Esquivel and Jack Darby''' (NYCC 2011 exclusive)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted twin-cannon

:Bumblebee is an orange-ish redeco of First Edition Bumblebee (see below) as a New York taxicab and comes with a pink [[Arcee (WFC)#Prime: First Edition|Arcee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby (Prime)#Prime|Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel#Prime|Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at [[New York Comic Con|New York Comic Con 2011]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/NYCCBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on First Edition NYCC Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pirates radio clips ''and'' Jazz's transformation scheme.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' ("First Edition" Deluxe Class, 2011)
**''Number:'' '''001'''
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted twin-cannon, stand

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'' figures, this Deluxe-sized incarnation of Bumblebee transforms into a yellow Urbana 500 muscle car. An arm-mounted blaster can be pegged via 5mm peg into either of his forearms or stowed underneath the vehicle mode. As with other "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, he comes with a cardboard display stand which sits at the bottom of the packaging.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/PrimeBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on First Edition Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Prime===
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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''Here'''s my other blaster!]]
[[Image:Prime-toy_BumblebeeTakTomDx.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 001'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[March 31]], 2012'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AM-02'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted blasters (Hasbro only), "B.2" Arms Micron (Takara only)

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Deluxe Class toys, this Bumblebee is an entirely new mold, and features a much simpler transformation (and slightly decreased posability), including a "dramatic head reveal": the entire car-mode front section is geared together, so when the robot-mode shoulders are pulled out, the hood opens up to flip out Bumblebee's head and expand his chest. Two blaster-weapons are now included, which use [[5mm post|5mm posts and holes]] to mount on his forearms, engine block, or be used as hand-held weapons. They can also combine to form a larger quad-barreled cannon. While the [[instructions]] are rather vague about it, his folded-up roof actually features a tab that's meant to peg into a slot behind his pelvis, securing his roof somewhat in robot mode. This version of the toy was later retooled into [[Hot Shot (WFC)|Hot Shot]].

: In wave six of the "Robots in Disguise" toyline, Bumblebee was put into new packaging, which came with a DVD featuring the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'' episode "[[Loose Cannons]]".

: The [[TakaraTomy]] version of Bumblebee, part of the first wave of ''Prime'' toys, is considerably different. His roof and doors have been retooled to include 5mm-hole mounting points, which are meant to be used with the new [[Arms Micron]] system. As such, he does not come with the Hasbro version's blasters, instead coming with the Arms Micron [[B.2]], who transforms into an over-sized version of Bumblebee's wrist-mounted blasters. His [[paint operation]]s have also been pretty heavily decreased; his doors, roof and rear window-frame have stripe-less solid-yellow paint to cover the clear plastic, leaving his engine block, grill-parts and face the only "detail-painted" parts on the toy. Most of his detailing, like his car-mode striping, is provided by a separate sheet of customer-applied foil [[sticker]]s. (This actually allows for more [[show-accuracy|show-accurate]] stripes than the painted Hasbro version.) Unfortunately, he suffers from a particularly horrid case of sticker placement: The [[instructions]] tell you to place stickers between his front wheels and doors to continue his stripe patterns, but due to how the doors are jointed, there is not enough clearance near them to accommodate these stickers, and opening the doors will ''destroy'' the stickers.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Robots in Disguise Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1465.html Arms Micron Bumblebee at Alfes's toy blog]''

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[[Image:Primetoy-UltimateOpponentsBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Show-accuracy|Denied!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee vs. Starscream: Ultimate Opponents''' (Entertainment Pack, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted weapon

: This Deluxe Class Bumblebee is a redeco of his First Edition release in a darker, more orange shade of yellow plastic, similar to the same mould's NYCC exclusive version. He features brighter silver highlights and an inexplicable recoloring of his racing stripes to an aqua blue, which fade back to their regular black halfway along his car mode.

: Bumblebee came packed-in with a redeco of First Edition Starscream, small unarticulated figurines of [[Silas]] and a MECH soldier, as well as a DVD containing the episodes ''[[Convoy (episode)|Convoy]]'', ''[[Sick Mind]]'' and ''[[Out of His Head]]''. The two-pack was also available in Australian markets virtually unchanged, except the DVD was replaced with a booklet including short (and by that, we mean one sentence) bios as well as [[Tech Spec]]s for [[Breakdown (WFC)|most]] [[Airachnid (Prime)|of]] the characters.

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[[Image:Primetoy-WeaponizerClassBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Eight. Count 'em. Eight wheels.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 002'''
**''Accessories:'' Blaster pistol

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Weaponizer Class toys,. Bumblebee is a large, roughly Leader-sized mold with a simplified transformation scheme, more accurate proportions, and a grand total of ''four'' [[Kibble#"Faux-parts"|fake wheel]]s on his person due to said transformation. He comes with a double-barreled blaster pistol which can mount onto his hands, forearms, and trunk.

: His ''main'' gimmicks, however, are the two large mini-guns hidden in his hood-chest, which can deploy and "weaponize" either mode. When his robot head/engine block is pressed down, the mini-guns swing out from his hood-chest and spin, while a red LED inside his torso lights up briefly. Pushing on the gray lever/the center front fender portion (both on his chest) briefly lights up the LED again and swings the mini-guns back into his body.

: His [[stock photography]] gives him a [[:Image:Transformers-Prime-Weaponizers-Bumblebee.jpg|''completely'' different vehicle deco]] compared to the final product, with the final toy having fewer [[paint operation]]s overall. The final product lacks the stripe patterns between the front wheels and doors due to that patch being made of [[unpaintable plastic]], shrinks the stripes on the hood, tapers the door stripes towards the front and extends it towards the rear wheels, rearranges the stripes on the trunk, roof, and behind the engine block, shrinks the Autobot symbol on the roof, and moves said symbol to the front of the hood. The hood stripes, in particular, have been ''significantly'' shrunk into what are essentially ''pinstripes''.

: A [[Variant#Running changes|running change variant]] of this figure features much thicker stripes on his hood-chest.

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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-ShadowStrikeBee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Great. Now everyone will think he's a part of the pavement.]]
*'''Shadow Strike Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 011'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted blasters

: Part of the fourth wave of ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Deluxe Class toys, Shadow Strike Bumblebee is a redeco of "Robots in Disguise" Deluxe Class Bumblebee, and is cast in gray, yellow, and translucent blue plastic. He features new yellow stripe patterns and deco, with some gray and black paint details here and there.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/SSBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Shadow Strike Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:PrimeRCtoy-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Bumblebee joins the [[Autoroller]]s.]]
*'''Remote Controlled Bumblebee''' (2012)
**''Accessories'': Remote control

:An electronic Bumblebee, operable by remote control. As well as driving around, the remote control allows you to convert Bumblebee from car to robot and trigger his punching action.

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[[Image:Prime-toy BumblebeeTerrorcon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Terrorcon Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, [[August 10|8-10]]-2012)
**''Accessories'': "Terrorcon Zori" Arms Micron

: Meant to represent Bumblebee turned into a vicious monster after being infused with [[Dark Energon]], "Terrorcon Bumblebee" is the Arms Micron Bee molding done in black, gray and clear-purple. Rather than his nominal Arms Micron partner, B.2, he instead comes with [[Zori#Terrorcon|Terrorcon Zori]], a clear-purple version of [[Soundwave (WFC)#Prime|Soundwave]]'s Micron partner. This set was available as an [[AEON]] stores exclusive in Japan.

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[[Image:PrimeDEtoy-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|All that glitters is not Goldbug.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Dark Energon Series Deluxe, 2012)
**''Number'': '''001'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters

: Another Dark-Energon-infused iteration of Bumblebee, but still an Autobot and apparently not a brutal killing machine, ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Dark Energon Series|Prime: Dark Energon]]'' Bumblebee is a [[BigBadToyStore]]-exclusive redeco of "Robots in Disguise" Deluxe Class Bumblebee, and is cast in translucent glittery-gold and opaque blue plastics as an [[homage]] to [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Goldbug|Generation 1 Goldbug]].

: Though he was packaged on an individual card, he was initially sold as part of a set with the Dark Energon versions of [[Knock Out (Prime)#DarkEnergon|Knock Out]], [[Starscream (WFC)#DarkEnergon|Starscream]], and [[Wheeljack (Prime)#DarkEnergon|Wheeljack]]. He was eventually made available on his own, and the Dark Energon Series toys were eventually made available in Singapore as mass-retail releases.

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===Beast Hunters===
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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-DeluxeBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Derf, a life-form's gotta do what a life-form's gotta do.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 001'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eagleshot Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Bumblebee is a redeco and extensive retool of the ''Robots in Disguise'' Deluxe Class Bumblebee mold, transforming into a heavily-modified Urbana 500 muscle car that's covered in spikes. Bumblebee's roof has been retooled with an additional 5mm peg-hole, and the hinge joint at the rear windshield has been removed.

:He retains the two arm-mounted blasters, and now additionally comes with a larger-scale "Eagleshot Bow", a large, spring-loaded [[missile]]-launching bow, as well as six missiles. The missiles can slide in and store on brackets in various places, with two brackets located on top of the bow, and two rotating brackets located on each door. The prods on the sides of the bow can be opened manually, but are meant to open automatically when a missile is inserted into the launcher.

:His instructions include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 1|first chapter]] of the ''[[Tales of the Beast Hunters]]'' series.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2013/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on ''Beast Hunters'' Bumblebee at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-Deluxe-NightShadowBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|About time this mold got painted rims.]]
*'''Night Shadow Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 015'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eaglefire Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the fifth wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toys, Night Shadow Bumblebee is a redeco of his ''Beast Hunters'' toy, sporting a black and gold color scheme similar to his depiction in the third season of the ''Prime'' cartoon, but with additional teal and silver details. His bow has been redecoed into the "[[Eagleshot Bow|Eaglefire Bow]]", representing an upgraded version of his previous "Eagleshot Bow".

:His stock photos depict his hood/chest as being cast in a mixture of black and gold plastic, whereas the final product casts these parts just in black.

:His instructions include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 23|twenty-third chapter]] of the ''Tales of the Beast Hunters'' series.

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[[Image:BHPRtoy-NovaBlastBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's basically lemonade and blueberry juice with a hint of pepper.]]
*'''Nova Blast Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eagleshot Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the "[[Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising|Predacons Rising]]" [[subline imprint]], Nova Blast Bumblebee is a redeco of his ''Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toy that changes some black and yellow sections to blue, changes some [[paint operation]]s, and adds light blue flames to the sides of his hood/chest.

: Like all ''Predacons Rising'' releases, Nova Blast Bumblebee was [[exclusive]] to [[Target]] stores in the United States, and to [[Tesco]] and Auchan stores in Europe.

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*'''Talking Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2013)
**''Accessories'': Blaster pistol, bow

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Weaponizer Class toys, "Talking Bumblebee" is a redeco/retool of his ''Robots in Disguise'' Weaponizer toy, sporting a black and yellow color scheme similar to his depiction in the third season of the ''Prime'' cartoon, as well as a new head-sculpt that features a mouth. He comes with a ''massive'' bow and features a talking gimmick.

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*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Sword

:Part of the first wave of 2014 ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toys, Bumblebee is functionally an upsized copy of his ''Beast Hunters Cyberverse'' toy, though with minor detail differences and the replacement of ball joints with more robust universal joints. As such, his parts count, complexity and articulation are all significantly lower than in previous Deluxes.

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===Go!===
*'''Hunter Bumblebee''' ([[April 27|04–27]]–13)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''G14'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, "Needle Arrow" bow, 6 missiles
:Hunter Bumblebee is a [[redeco]] of the ''Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Bumblebee toy, released in [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Triple Combination: Transformers Go! (toyline)|Transformers Go!]]'' toyline. He's cast in a slightly more orange shade of yellow and has some minor differences in paint as well, such as shinier headlights and entirely black lines on his hood as opposed to the ''Beast Hunters'' toy's partially silver ones.

==Merchandise==
===McDonald's===
[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeHappyMeal.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Happy Meal, 2012)
:*''McNumber:'' '''3'''
:Happy Meal Bumblebee is a nontransformable sports car! A spring-loaded missile launcher can be revealed in his roof, and when a missile is inserted, pressing the Autobot symbol on the roof fires it.

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*'''Bumblebee Ion Blaster''' (2012)

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==Notes==
[[Image:VectorSigmaBotBuilderBumblebee.jpg|thumb|Cheddar-flavored.]]
* ''War for Cybertron'' Bumblebee was designed by [[Jim Daly]], and it's that specific character concept art that won [[Hasbro]] over on giving [[High Moon Studios]] the game.
* Bumblebee's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Runner-type chassis for [[Scout (WFC)|Scout]]-class characters. His parts are also available in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Recon-type components for the [[Infiltrator (FOC)|Infiltrator]] class (although his wheels can also be used by [[Destroyer (FOC)|Destroyers]]).
* [[Alex Irvine]] wrote the short story ''[[Bumblebee at Tyger Pax]]'', expanding on how Bumblebee lost his vocoder in ''Exodus''.
* [[Jeff Kline]] said why Bumblebee lost his voice will be revealed in season two of ''Prime'',<ref>[http://collider.com/roberto-orci-jeff-kline-interview-transformers-prime/75039/ Collider interview]</ref> though [[Duane Capizzi]] broke the suspense when he said it would be for the same reason as ''Exodus''.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW Q&A]</ref>
*In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and '''HALF''' of the Autobots get out. Weird. Guess his father was a clown car.
* Bumblebee's [[license plate]] in "[[Speed Metal]]" is "'''936 SOH'''".
* Unlike [[Bumblebee (Movie)|that other mute Bumblebee]], who cannot directly communicate at all, and who splices together radio signals as a primitive method of conveying his thoughts, the beeps and tones produced by ''Prime'' Bumblebee seem to be a language of their own, which is fully understood by other Cybertronians (and, oddly, Raf).
* Bumblebee's body parts are available to use in the Hub website's [[Vector Sigma Bot Builder]] online game. Normally, you cannot configure a generic 'bot using all Bumblebee parts, but you can see what one would look like at right through the magic of Photoshop. Unlike most of his peers, who were hue-shifted into different colors, Bumblebee seems to look exactly the same as he always does.
*Bumblebee is a guest on the DVD/Blu-Ray commentary for "Shadowzone". [[Dave Hartman]] apparently shares Raf's ability to understand him.
*According to the Autobits version of [[Darkmount, NV]], [[Frank Welker]] records words for Bumblebee, which are then replaced with the character's normal beeping sounds.
* He wears a retractable battle-mask similar to Optimus Prime's.

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===Arms Up Modes===
In the Japanese ''Prime'' toyline, Bumblebee has several powered-up modes when given various [[Arms Micron]]s in certain configurations:

[[Image:DarknessRising4 CybSat-BeeBanBan.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gahqavv9aUQ You've got to aim for the kneecaps and then kick her head off.]"]]

*'''Striker Mode''' (ストライカーモード ''Sutoraikā Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, C.L., O.P., R.A.
:The Arms Up form shown on Bumblebee's box-back photo. In this form, B.2 is mounted on his left arm, with [[R.A.]] on his right, while [[C.L.]] and [[O.P.]] take positions on Bee's backpack (which has been flipped up to allow the gun-Microns to fire sorta-forward).

*'''Mecha Uchi Ban Ban Mode''' (メチャウチバンバンモード ''Mecha Uchi Ban Ban Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, O.P., R.A.
:Roughly translated as "Extreme Firefight Bang Bang Mode", this "Anti-Terrorcon" Mode turns the three Microns into a gun emplacement that isn't actually attached to Bee, just one he stands behind. Introduced in the "[[From the Cybertron Satellite, Transformers Division|Cybertron Satellite]]" segment from "[[Darkness Rising, Part 4|Infiltration Transformation! Battleship Nemesis]]".

*'''Mecha Uchi Kidō Type''' (メチャウチ機動タイプ ''Mecha Uchi Kidō Taipu'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, C.L.
: Roughly translated as "Extreme Firefight Agile Type", this other "Anti-Terrorcon" attack mode is... just Bee with B.2 on one arm and C.L. on the other. ''Exciting.'' But it was highlighted and named in the same episode as the Mechya Uchi Ban Ban Mode, so, well, for completism's sake....

*'''Infection Mode''' (インフェックションモード ''Infuekkushon Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, Terrorcon Zori
: Terrorcon Bumblebee's Arms Up mode is simply him using [[Zori#Toys|Terrorcon Zori]] in his right hand, and B.2 in his left. Wooo.
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===Foreign names===
*''Hungarian:'' '''Bumblebee''', '''Űrdongó''' (''Rescue Bots'' cartoon, "Space-Bumblebee")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dà-huáng-fēng''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Russian:'' '''Shershen'''' (Шершень, "Hornet")

==References==
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Bumblebee (WFC)

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:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:PrimeBee.jpg|thumb|300px|... and, from the Planet of the Mimes, the Copper Kidd!]]
'''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[AllSpark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, and can always be counted on to volunteer for action. His small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger.

He's been on Earth longer than any other Autobot, and he's grown to like and understand [[human]]s, particularly [[Raf Esquivel]] and [[Axel Frazier]]. If you're a Decepticon and you want to threaten any humans, you better not think you can get away with it just because Bumblebee's small and can't talk: he can't talk because his [[voice box]] was ''destroyed'' in combat and he's still kept fighting, because Bumblebee will take any risk and make whatever sacrifice ''necessary'' to win the war.

{{quote|Bumblebee, it wouldn't kill you to exercise caution.|[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Cybertronians that emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] after it had stopped producing life in a lull at the beginning of the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war. Like all born during the war, he joined the Autobots. He became part of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s inner circle with [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]] and [[Prowl (WFC)|Prowl]], and also befriended [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], learning first aid skills from him in the few battles they fought together.

When Optimus ejected the [[AllSpark]] from the Well into space, Bumblebee distracted [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] at [[Tyger Pax]], and paid the ultimate price when the tyrant destroyed his vocoder. Ratchet repaired it, but Bumblebee was only able to speak from time to time. When Megatron stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] underneath the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]], Bumblebee followed him to the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below the ruins of [[Crystal City]] and witnessed him use it to corrupt Cybertron's [[core]] with [[Dark Energon]].

Bumblebee informed Optimus of what he saw, but first he had to serve as part of the extraction unit in Optimus's rescue of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] from [[Kaon]]. Afterwards Optimus, Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] journeyed to the core through the Well. Due to the heavy build up of Dark Energon, Bumblebee found it a distressing experience and lost it when they reached the core, silently tearing out the protruding Corruption Spikes. Though fearful of what would happen, Optimus was able to remove the Chamber and begin Cybertron's healing.

Back at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Optimus announced [[Ark (WFC)|Project Generation One]] to evacuate Cybertron, for the planet could not sustain a fraction of the life it currently supported if it were to survive. Bumblebee boarded the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' with the other elite Autobots and drew out and entered [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. Avoiding Trypticon's corridor drones and [[Mini-Con|Minicons]] they blew up the Dark Energon Facility, causing him to crash. Bumblebee boarded the ''Ark'', which flew him and his friends through the last [[space bridge]] to a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] with the AllSpark detected nearby. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

After passing through the unstable [[space bridge]], Bumblebee and the Autobots aboard the Ark found themselves in the vicinity of a Cybertronian colony world called [[Velocitron]]. Bumblebee was part of Optimus Prime's initial landing team, who made contact with the planet's rulers, [[Override (Prime)|Override]] and [[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]]. It was a time of great stress between Velocitron's rulers, and the Autobots' arrival from mythical Cybertron only exacerbated the situation. Although the Autobots secured an ally in Override, they left Velocitron on the brink of civil war during their departure.

The next leg of their journey through the Space Bridge brought the Autobots to fabled [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]], a world composed entirely of space junk. Bumblebee and the Autobots met [[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]] and his ever-busy people, the Junkions, who maintained an entire planet made of derelict ships and space junk that gravitated together over time. Optimus Prime's Matrix-induced visions led him on a quest through one of the four Space Bridge nodes surrounding Junkion, and he selected Bumblebee and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to accompany him. Through the Bridge they came across the lonely tomb of [[Solus Prime]], fabled artifacer of the [[Thirteen]]. Her holographic spirit was called forth by the Matrix and informed the Autobots that the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]], most deadly of her creations, rested on Junkion and must be kept out of Decepticon hands.

Returning to Junkion, Bumblebee joined the other Autobots in a struggle with the Decepticons aboard the newly arriving ''Nemesis''. The Requiem Blaster was uncovered inside a ship at the planet's core. A weapon capable of drawing infinite power from nearby stellar sources, the Requiem Blaster had its own gravity field, and had literally been the core around which Junkion's "junk" had formed. The fighting over the Requiem Blaster ripped the planet apart, but both sides eventually called off the melee and abandoned the Blaster after learning the location of the Allspark itself. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and the rest of the Autobots boarded the Ark and began the long race to reach their civilization's greatest prize before Megatron could. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

===Coloring pages===
Bumblebee was the first Autobot to arrive on [[Earth]], having been sent there to scout things out.<ref>Bumblebee's [http://www.hubworld.com/hubworld/specials/transformers-prime-downloadables/printables/tprime-bumblebee-coloring-page.pdf online coloring page] at hubworld.com</ref>

===''Prime'' comic===
[[Image:PrimeComicBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I have a mouth?!]]
Bumblebee and Optimus were on [[Earth]] when they detected [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]'s arrival and went to their rescue. After Optimus crushed [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]], Bumblebee sent the Decepticon flying with a single punch, and escorted the others back to base. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|Transformers: Prime}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{Voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]]<ref>''Frank Welker records actual words written for Bumblebee which are later replaced with sound effects.'' -- Revealed in "The Autobits Edition" of [[Darkmount, NV|episode 53]].</ref>, [[Will Friedle]] (English)}}
During the Great War, Bumblebee was captured at [[Tyger Pax]]. The interrogation by Megatron was brutal, but he was later found and a [[Ratchet (WFC)|field medic]] saved his life, though his [[voice box]] was a loss. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

[[Image:Predatory-ArceeBeeCliff.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Hey Cliff, aren't you supposed to be a red version of me?]]
Bumblebee and Cliffjumper invaded [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]'s lair to rescue Arcee and [[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]]. Bumblebee blasted a couple of [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s, but they were too late to save Tailgate. They carried Arcee out as she told them she'd been unable to save her partner. {{storylink|Predatory}}

Years later, after the war, Bumblebee was stationed on [[Earth]] under Optimus Prime's command. He was patrolling a desert area when Optimus ordered everyone back to [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]] so that they could use the [[GroundBridge]] to provide Cliffjumper with backup. They did so, but arrived at the battle site too late—Cliffjumper had been taken by the Decepticons, and apparently killed. The Autobots held a brief memorial for their friend.

[[Image:Bumblebee Bulkhead Arcee Darkness Rising 1.jpg|left|thumb|350px|''Voice actor:'' [[R2-D2]] (English)]]

When Arcee and [[Jack Darby (Prime)|Jack Darby]] were pursued by Decepticons, Bumblebee joined in the chase as it moved onto the freeway. After a brief attempt to slow the Decepticons, he joined Arcee in facing the foe in a drainage canal, accidentally crushing a toy car belonging to [[Raf Esquivel|Rafael Esquivel]]. During the fight Bumblebee was knocked to the ground, and only Raf's timely distraction allowed him to temporarily get the better of the Decepticons, until [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] arrived and helped them scare the Decepticons off.

Optimus was disappointed that humans had gotten involved, and had Bumblebee and Arcee bring them back to the base. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} When [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] detected Cliffjumper's signal, Bumblebee was part of the team that went to try and rescue their comrade. Though he and the others valiantly fought through the multitudes of Decepticons at an energon mine, their mission was ultimately a failure, and they had to return to base hastily as the mine exploded. Prime later assigned him to watch over Raf to keep the boy safe from the Decepticons. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising3-BumblebeeArceevehicles.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Drive on the right side of the road, Bumblebee!]]

The next day, Bumblebee discovered that he was a lot better than Raf at computer games, though Raf blamed it on Bumblebee's greater experience in driving. When they reached the base, Optimus and Ratchet left on a mission, placing Arcee in charge. Arcee promptly went out on patrol, taking Bumblebee with her and leaving Bulkhead in charge. As they drove through the Nevada desert, Bulkhead reported that [[William Fowler|Fowler]] had been abducted by the Decepticons. When it turned out there was no one left at base to bridge them back, Arcee and Bumblebee were forced to drive back. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:DarknessRising4-Bumblebeeshoot.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sting like a bee = die by fire]]

Bumblebee and Arcee arrived at the Decepticon ship in time to rescue Raf and Jack from a pair of Decepticons. They quickly located Bulkhead and [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko Nakadai]], also moving through the ship, but after it became obvious that the humans were in too much danger as they fought their way through the ship, the Autobots cleared out the ship's bridge for the kids to hide out in. They eventually reached the brig where Fowler was being held, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead burst through the main door while Arcee slipped in through a top vent. A standoff ensued, until Fowler distracted Starscream long enough for the Autobots to start firing. Starscream chased off, the Autobots took off with Fowler and rescued the kids on the way out. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Once the Autobots had located the whereabouts of the Decepticon [[space bridge]]—Earth orbit—Optimus, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee used the GroundBridge to reach it. They were spotted by Megatron and Starscream, who sent a force of flying Decepticons to attack them. While they battled, Ratchet determined a way to destroy the space bridge, so Bumblebee and Bulkhead covered Arcee while she followed his instructions. They committed the necessary act of sabotage before Megatron fired on them, hitting Arcee. As the Autobots jumped back into the GroundBridge, Bumblebee collected Arcee's drifting body and carried her back to base where she recovered enough to stand on her own. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

[[Image:Masters&Students-BeeQuake.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Bumblebee comes up with his own version of punch buggy blue.]]
Bumblebee helped Raf with his science project, building a small replica of a volcano while they discussed how Bumblebee had not yet risen to the rank of Warrior. As Optimus pointed out, Bumblebee still had much to learn before he could reach that level. Optimus subsequently picked Bumblebee to go on a mission to investigate Decepticon activity, but warned the smaller Autobot to hold back. When Optimus came to blows with [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], Bumblebee decided to disregard the earlier order and charged into battle. Though he was no match for Skyquake, he and Optimus led the Decepticon into a trap and seemed victorious, until Skyquake [[scanning|scanned]] Fowler's jet. Bumblebee managed to end the fight by jumping onto Skyquake's jet form and causing critical damage, jumping to Fowler's jet as Skyquake crashed to the ground. After some repairs, Optimus commended him on his performance. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Bulkhead and Bumblebee discovered a strange pod in the [[Arctic]] which they brought back to base. When the kids arrived at base, Bumblebee was keen to play some video games with Raf, but he and Bulkhead were roped into helping Ratchet repair the GroundBridge, which broke shortly after Optimus and Arcee used it to go to the Arctic. The cause of the problem was revealed when Raf found a [[Scraplet]], which started gnawing on Bumblebee. Raf killed it with a crowbar before it could do much more damage, but Bumblebee ended up having to search the base with Raf for more of the Scraplets. After finding quite a lot of Scraplets, they returned to the control room, where another mass of them overwhelmed Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Ratchet. Though the kids were able to get rid of the attacking Scraplets, Bumblebee was out of it for the rest of the incident, and ended up on a repair bed, being tended to by the kids. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

When [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] landed on Earth, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee turned out to welcome him and arrived in time to see him trash some Vehicons. The Autobots celebrated their new friend's arrival, and Bumblebee and Raf danced The Robot to Miko's guitar playing. Bumblebee also stood around a lot while Bulkhead proved that "Wheeljack" was a Decepticon spy and the real Wheeljack turned up. After everything was resolved, the Autobots had another party to welcome the real Wheeljack, and Bumblebee got to bust out some more dance moves. He and Arcee turned out with Bulkhead to see Wheeljack off when the Autobot returned to space. {{storylink|Con Job}}

[[Image:Convoy-Bumblebeeboxing.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Jazz (Movie)|YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?! YOU WANT A PIECE?!]] And please don't say you want two, because I know you're not Megatron. ]]

Bumblebee took part in the Autobot convoy to transport Fowler's [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]] across the US countryside. When [[MECH]] attacked them, he bashed into one of the cars they were using, flipping it over. The Autobots successfully passed the D.N.G.S. over to a train, but were shortly after confronted by a squadron of flying Vehicons, and were forced to return to their robot modes to fight. Bumblebee got to try out some boxing moves on a Vehicon, but while the Autobots were occupied, MECH made another attempt to obtain the D.N.G.S. which was foiled by Optimus. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

When an [[Energon Harvester]] was located in a museum, the Autobots surrounded the building while the kids went in to steal it. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] appeared at the front of the museum to attack Optimus, and as Breakdown charged at the museum, Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to stop him. Bumblebee was hit by a missile, sending him tumbling, and then by Arcee who'd just missed catching another missile. He, Arcee and Prime later attempted to track down the Decepticons before the Harvester could be used, but they ended up coming to Bulkhead's rescue after he found and stopped the Decepticons himself. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SpeedMetal-BBvsBreakdown.jpg|thumb|250px|I want a new dance partner.]]
When Arcee refused to go street racing with Jack, Bumblebee was more receptive, though they asked Raf's permission beforehand. Unfortunately also participating in the race was Knock Out, who started firing on Bumblebee. After calling base and letting them know what was up, Bumblebee used an oil slick to slow down Knock Out, and hid under a bridge. They would have escaped detection had another human, [[Vince]], not confronted Jack about apparently pulling out of the race, and Vince was subsequently captured by Knock Out. After Arcee and Bulkhead arrived, the three Autobots pursued Knock Out to a storage facility, where Bumblebee and Bulkhead were ambushed by Breakdown. They defeated Breakdown and caught up with Knock Out. The other 'Con had already been stopped by Optimus, who was very interested in some explanations. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

When Optimus was infected with [[Cybonic plague]], Bumblebee and Arcee GroundBridged to the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure. Bumblebee discovered Megatron had survived their last battle and was recovering in sickbay. Unable to find the cure on the Decepticons' computer, Bumblebee offered to use the [[cortical psychic patch]] to enter Megatron's mind and locate it. Finding himself in a [[Kaon]]ian dreamscape, Bumblebee saw Megatron killing Optimus repeatedly. Megatron realized he could not harm Bumblebee and demanded to know why he was intruding on his mind. Bumblebee reminded him of the space bridge explosion and implored him to give him the cure, playing on his desire to kill Optimus for real rather than have him succumb to a virus. Megatron showed him the cure but demanded Bumblebee help him out of his stasis lock. Ratchet was recording what Bumblebee saw though, and because they had the cure, Arcee disconnected Bumblebee and GroundBridged back to base. However, Megatron's spark had left his body and escaped into Bumblebee's... {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutOfHisHead-evileye.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He is no longer the boy you once knew, [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan]].]]
Bumblebee began to experience visions of Megatron, causing him to stop dead during a basketball game with Bulkhead. After Megatron forced him to crush one of Ratchet's devices, Bumblebee told Ratchet about the visions, and Ratchet induced a power down to give Bumblebee's mind time to recover. Bumblebee reactivated, under the control of Megatron, and, retrieving a piece of Dark Energon from an old battlefield, bridged to the Decepticon warship over the Arctic. Although Ratchet and Raf tried to stop him, even managing to get Bumblebee to reassert control for a few moments, Bumblebee successfully brought Megatron back online and transferred his mind back to his body. Free of Megatron's influence, Bumblebee beat a hasty retreat with Ratchet and Raf. Later at base, Ratchet checked Bumblebee was completely free of Megatron, and the small Autobot thanked Raf for coming to help him. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

After a Dark Energon signature was detected, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to investigate. They instead found Starscream trying to resurrect Skyquake. During the ensuing conflict, the Autobots discovered their human friends had followed them to the battlefield, and the three kids were caught in a freak GroundBridge accident, causing them to disappear.The Autobots returned to base to try and locate their friends, but it wasn't until Bumblebee suggested trying to ring the kids that they found Miko's cellphone, and the kids were able to send a text to it. Ratchet subsequently engineered a portal to rescue the kids from the other dimension they'd become trapped in. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by MECH, Bumblebee and the others were more than happy to leave them to it, but Optimus insisted that they rescue the Decepticon to avoid Cybertronian technology falling into MECH hands. The team arrived in [[Kamchatka Peninsula]] and Bumblebee spotted some vehicle tracks, but they opted instead to follow the energon signal Ratchet had detected. After they escaped the bomb that the trace led them to, the team tracked down Bulkhead in time to chase off Starscream and some Vehicons. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}

Arcee and Bumblebee were in the middle of a fight with some Vehicons when Arcee got a call informing her she had to be in Jack's garage ASAP. After checking if Bumblebee could handle it, Arcee left. Evidently he was able to, as he was later in the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee turned up with [[June Darby]]. {{storylink|Crisscross}}

[[Image:Partners-BeepunchesAirachnid.jpg|thumb|250px|[[wikipedia:Cyborg_(comics)|Boo-yah]]!]]
Bumblebee was part of the team that investigated the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]] and found Airachnid and Starscream. He guarded the bound Starscream while the others decided what to do with the Decepticon. Prime, Bulkhead and Bumblebee went to check out the rear half of the ship, crashed some distance away, and were ambushed by Airachnid who had found an experimental weapon named the [[Immobilizer]]. She froze Prime and Bulkhead, but Bumblebee managed to trick her by kicking up a dust cloud with his guns, and then pretending to be frozen after she fired the Immobilizer into it. Once she turned her back, he crept up and sucker punched her before blasting the Immobilizer. After she fled, Bumblebee went back to find Arcee, and interrupted her when she was about to offline Starscream. They returned the pieces of Immobilizer to base, along with Bulkhead and Optimus, and Ratchet was able to repair the device and unfreeze their comrades. {{storylink|Partners}}

Bumblebee accompanied Prime and Arcee as they tried to retrieve a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] before the Decepticons did. Ultimately the Decepticons made off with the cylinder, and later Bumblebee listened as Ratchet told them the cylinder's contents had ended up in Bulkhead's brain, though the Autobots were excited to find that the equations being scrawled by Bulkhead were a set of formula for synthetic energon. Unfortunately it later turned out that the data was eating Bulkhead's brain. Bumblebee and Arcee accompanied Optimus on an unsuccessful attempt to get the cylinder back from Megatron, and they ended up fighting a bunch of Vehicons. Later they came to Miko and Bulkhead's aid to save the pair from Knock Out and Breakdown, and were present when Miko managed to rouse the comatose Bulkhead with her guitar. {{storylink|T.M.I.}}

During a mission to stop Knock Out and Breakdown who were transporting energon, Bumblebee, Prime and Bulkhead were separated from Arcee. They caught up to find that Ratchet had already dealt with the Vehicons who'd been attacking Arcee, and they returned to base where Ratchet revealed he'd taken the synthetic energon he'd been working on. Ratchet, amped up on the substance, insisted on going on their next mission, which meant Bumblebee got left at base operating the GroundBridge. The other Autobots returned minus Ratchet, who had gone to tackle Megatron on his own. Once they'd gotten a fix on Ratchet's signal, they left Bumblebee at base again. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-BumblebeeRaf.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I didn't mean to break it]]
Bumblebee was taking Raf to play with Raf's remote-control car when he was called on to join the battle at a military base. Unfortunately Megatron found them before he could drop Raf off, and Bumblebee was hit by a blast from Megatron's cannon. Though Bumblebee himself was mostly unaffected, Raf was gravely injured. Bumblebee arrived at the battle and had to be restrained from attacking Megatron so he and Arcee could take Raf back to base. Bumblebee watched helplessly as Ratchet and June Darby tried to save the boy. At one point, the frustration became too much, and he knocked a chunk out of the wall with his fist, but Arcee talked him down, and eventually Ratchet worked out that an energon infusion would save Raf. Bumblebee gave some of his own energon for the procedure, which was ultimately successful. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

After the other Autobots saved Optimus from Megatron, Bumblebee bridged them back to base. June decided to take Raf to the hospital, and didn't intend to bring him back, so Bumblebee had to sadly watch them drive from the base. When it transpired that the Dark Energon volcano was causing global disasters, he went to find June and Raf, and managed to save them from a tornado by grabbing the front end of their car. After he returned to base with them, the assembled Autobots and humans worked out that [[Unicron]] was at the center of the Earth. He and the other Autobots began investigating the sites of the earthquakes Unicron had generated. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Though Optimus ordered the other Autobots to remain at base, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead joined him anyway. They fought increasingly larger stone Unicrons, until to their surprise, help came in the form of Megatron. When Optimus gave the other three Autobots the choice of whether to accompany him and Megatron to Earth's core, Bumblebee opted to go for Raf's sake. He, Arcee and Bulkhead greeted Megatron to the Autobot base by aiming their guns at him. Before long, they stepped through the GroundBridge once again, this time into Earth's core. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they made their way through Unicron's internals, they encountered [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]] which aggressively attacked them. When during the fight Bulkhead almost fell to his doom, Bumblebee grabbed his arm and held him long enough for Optimus to help. He, Bulkhead and Arcee remained outside Unicron's spark chamber to hold off the antibodies, but after Unicron's defeat, they entered to find Optimus had lost his memory. The trio had to GroundBridge back to base without their leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

The Autobots puzzled over how to get their leader back but made little progress. When Fowler warned them of an attack on a military base, Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Arcee went to try and deal with it, but Knock Out and Breakdown succeeded in getting away with the power source they needed. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} Bumblebee and the others fruitlessly searched for the space bridge until a breakthrough came in the form of information from Starscream. Using said information, the Autobots stormed the mine containing the space bridge and secured it so they could send Jack and Arcee through to Cybertron. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}} Ratchet, Bulkhead and Bumblebee monitored Jack's progress from the Earth end of the space bridge. When Megatron arrived to take back control, Bumblebee was grabbed by the head and tossed aside. Luckily it all turned out, and Bumblebee and the others returned to base with Optimus Prime restored. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee1 Bumblebee's new ride.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Privacy please"]]
During a mission to retrieve a Cybertronian artifact, Bumblebee followed Megatron into the Decepticon GroundBridge and snatched the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]] right out of his hand. Responding to another signal, Bumblebee was ambushed by MECH, who took his [[transformation cog|T-cog]]. Unable to transform, he became more and more testy despite the attempts of Raf to cheer him up. Bumblebee finally talked Bulkhead into taking him along on on a mission to find another artifact, only for his lack of a T-cog to become a liability as he tried to chase Knock Out. The pursuit ended when Bumblebee plunged out-of-control off a cliff. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee2 Bumblebee damaged T-cog.jpg|thumb|left|250px|My precious...]]
When he came around back at base, Optimus restricted him to base. After an attempt to transplant Ratchet's T-cog into him was aborted, Bumblebee was pointed in the direction of the MECH base and opted to go on a one-bot assault. Though he floored Starscream and MECH in the process of getting the cog back, the vital component was blasted by Starscream. After some repair work by Ratchet, the T-cog was reinstalled in Bumblebee, and his ability to [[transformation|transform]] restored. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

Bumblebee and the others came to Wheeljack's aid when he returned to Earth to battle [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}} Bumblebee was part of an Optimus-led mission to an abandoned energon mine in [[South America]], where they found Megatron fighting an [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]]. When the fight was finished, the Autobots surrounded the exhausted Megatron, but were prevented from finishing him off by the arrival of Dreadwing. Though they trashed a bunch of Vehicons, Megatron and Dreadwing escaped them. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

When Fowler was attacked by a truck resembling Optimus, Bumblebee caught his car as it plunged from a bridge. Returning to base, they established the truck was a MECH-created clone of Optimus, and began searching for the MECH base. Bumblebee found the hideout, but after alerting the other Autobots, was knocked out by [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]]. Following Optimus's defeat of MECH, the Autobots returned to base for repairs. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (episode)|Nemesis Prime}} Bumblebee went with Optimus and Arcee to investigate some Decepticon activity and found Airachnid sending out a swarm of Insecticons. He and Optimus ended up having to fight a bunch of them and won. They got to return to base with Airachnid, whom Arcee had stasis-locked. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}}

After the ''Nemesis'' crashed, Bumblebee took part in an attack on it with the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]], only to be put into stasis by its weapons. He recovered back at base once the kids disabled the ship. {{storylink|Flying Mind}} Bumblebee was sent to [[New York City]] with Arcee, Jack and Miko to look for one of the Iacon relics. In the subway, they ran into Knock Out and an Insecticon, the latter of which temporarily floored Bumblebee. He recovered in time to pursue Knock Out, catching up with the Decepticon and getting the relic back. The relic turned out to be a [[phase shifter]], which saved Bumblebee from being hit by an out-of-control sweeper train. After they chased Knock Out off, Bumblebee and Arcee were introduced to [[Vogel]]. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}}

They returned to base to find Bulkhead critically injured after his mission, and Bumblebee and Arcee helped get the Wrecker to the medical bay. {{storylink|Hurt}} During Bulkhead's recovery period, Bumblebee arrived back at base to find Miko was upset at her friend's lack of progress. {{storylink|Out of the Past}} Bumblebee was part of Optimus's team investigating a crashed escape pod when they encountered [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]. When Raf discovered the presence of [[Red Energon]] on Earth, Optimus, Arcee and Bumblebee headed to a dock to retrieve it, only to run into Starscream and the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]]. Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to scale the crane but were attacked by Starscream, and Smokescreen had to come to their rescue using the phase shifter. {{storylink|New Recruit}}

When Fowler notified them that a [[Project Damocles]] satellite had been stolen by Breakdown and Silas, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to a military base in the hope of securing the satellite control codes before the Decepticons could get them. Instead they found themselves facing both Decepticon troopers and the orbital death ray itself, controlled by Soundwave. {{storylink|The Human Factor}} During an energon hunt, Bumblebee tried to stop Smokescreen harassing a human, resulting in them both getting their picture on the net. Bumblebee later accompanied Optimus on a search for another Iacon relic, which turned out to be a Decepticon hoax, and helped secure the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|Legacy}}

[[Image:HardKnocksBumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Well, it's not a couch, but... it'll have to do.]]
After Optimus received a message from [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] revealing the existence of the [[Omega Key]]s, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead were happy that they might soon be able to restore Cybertron, but quickly realized there would be a downside in that they would have to leave their friends on Earth behind. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}} Bumblebee was sent with Arcee to retrieve one of the keys, but they encountered Knock Out. Bumblebee was significantly damaged by the [[Resonance Blaster]] before the Decepticon got away with the key, and had to undergo repairs when the two Autobots returned to base. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}} After Smokescreen escaped the ''Nemesis'' with two of the Omega Keys, the Autobots received a message from Starscream offering a trade for the fourth and final key. Bumblebee guarded the base with Smokescreen and Arcee, but using Red Energon, Starscream was able to infiltrate the base and steal their three keys anyway. {{storylink|Inside Job}}

As the Autobots equipped themselves to go to Cybertron in a last-ditch attempt to stop the Decepticons from using the [[Omega Lock]], Bumblebee took the [[polarity gauntlet]] from storage. During their battle with the Decepticons, he used it to reclaim the Omega Keys. The Autobots subsequently found the Omega Lock, only for the Decepticons to unveil their trump card in the form of the three kids as hostages. {{storylink|Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration}} Bumblebee was forced to hand over his Omega Key in exchange for Raf. After Optimus destroyed the Omega Lock to prevent Megatron destroying Earth, Bumblebee returned with the others to base, only to find that the Decepticons were attacking it. The Autobots were forced to abandon base, and Bumblebee and Raf bridged to a point somewhere in the US. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}}

[[File:DarkmountNV-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Fired?]]
After changing his paint scheme to foil the searching Vehicons, Bumblebee headed back towards Jasper with Raf. {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} When Raf discovered a photo of Ratchet on a conspiracy website, the pair tracked him down in a junkyard and tried to convince him to help them use the ''Harbinger''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> systems. Apparently failing, Bumblebee and Raf went to the derelict ship themselves, and were joined shortly afterwards by Ratchet, who had had a change of heart. {{storylink|Scattered}} They managed to get some of the ship's systems working before Bumblebee spotted a starship incoming, which turned out to be [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] with most of the rest of Team Prime. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Bumblebee and Arcee joined the attack on [[Darkmount (Earth)|Darkmount]], acting as a "stealth team" and infiltrating the citadel under cover of a diversion. Unfortunately they ran into heavy resistance and were taken captive, but when Optimus Prime arrived to join the assault, they renewed their attack on the Decepticons. Following the destruction of Darkmount, the Autobots assembled at a human military base. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion}}

When it turned out the Decepticons were aiming to clone more Predacons, Optimus took Bumblebee and Smokescreen with him to [[Texas]] to investigate Decepticon activity. Despite the trio's best efforts, they were unable to prevent Shockwave and Soundwave obtaining more Predacon [[CNA]]. {{storylink|Project Predacon}}

Bumblebee and the others took time out from hunting for Predacon fossils to secure some energon supplies, unaware it was part of a Decepticon plan to deceive the newly-intelligent [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]]. {{storylink|Evolution}} He became upset when Smokescreen suggested that his broken voicebox was his "signature", as he would prefer to have his own voice back. He and the other Autobots attempted to stop the Decepticons from executing a series of raid on human technology, and were caught in a fire fight at the [[Solaris particle collider]] in Antarctica. {{storylink|Minus One}} Though they fought their way through the Decepticons, they were ultimately unable to stop the Decepticons stealing the needed technology, and on top of this, when they returned to base it was to find Ratchet had been abducted by Soundwave. {{storylink|Persuasion}} They launched the probe and monitored it and Optimus's progress from the base. Though the probe was destroyed, Ratchet was able to send them the coordinates to the Decepticon warship, and Bumblebee and the others geared up in preparation to assault the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Synthesis}}

[[File:Tfp bee down.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Eat your spark out, Optimus.]]
Bumblebee joined Arcee and Smokescreen in heading for the Omega Lock control room, though Smokescreen left them for a mission of his own. Despite encountering heavy resistance from Starscream, Arcee and Bumblebee made it to the control room, and when Smokescreen arrived with the Star Saber, Bumblebee attempted to pass the weapon to Optimus. As he jumped, he was hit by three blasts from Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] and died, however, he fell into the Omega Lock's energy field which restored him, including his damaged voice box. Bumblebee took the opportunity to impale Megatron with the Star Saber, killing the Decepticon leader. With the ''Nemesis'' secured, the Autobots were able to take the ship to Cybertron, where they used the Omega Lock to restore their home world. Bumblebee gave Raf a sad farewell before he and the other Autobots returned home. {{storylink|Deadlock}}

{{Spoiler|Predacons Rising (Prime)|November 4, 2013}}
In the aftermath of Cybertron's rebirth, Bumblebee was promoted to warrior, shortly before Optimus went off to find the AllSpark. With the discovery that there were two new Predacons on the loose, Bumblebee led a team of Autobots to find Predaking, but was unsuccessful in persuading him to help them. After encountering Unicron, in possession of Megatron's rebuilt form, the Autobots realized that the dark god intended to destroy their world. After foiling an attempt by Starscream to retake the warship, the Autobots attempted to defend the Well of All Sparks from Unicron's onslaught. It was only when Optimus returned that Unicron was defeated, and Bumblebee was later present when Optimus sacrificed himself to restore the AllSpark to Cybertron. {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}}

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Titan4.3 Bumblekick.jpg|thumb|left|250px|BUMBLEKICK!]]
Bumblebee took part in the testing of Ratchet's newly developed [[Safe]]. After Bulkhead uncovered a nuke which attracted the attention of some Vehicons, Bumblebee, Optimus and Arcee went out to deal with the 'Cons. As Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Optimus and Arcee blasted them, though Bumblebee was less than happy with the arrangement as he wanted to get to shoot them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}} Optimus took the other Autobots, including Bumblebee, on a trip to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Bumblebee was playing video games with Raf when Fowler reported that the Decepticons had commandeered a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]] near [[Antarctica]]. Optimus, Bumblebee and Ratchet GroundBridged to the ship, but on arrival Ratchet was knocked out by Starscream's [[static lance]]. Bumblebee attacked the Decepticon, dodging a swipe of the lance and then delivering a kick. Once he had possession of the lance, Bumblebee threw it to Optimus, who used it to defeat Megatron. After guiding the ship to its destination, the trio returned to base, which had been turned into an ice rink for some reason. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Raf and Bumblebee stopped off at [[Plug and Play]] to pick up Raf's copy of ''[[Invasionauts II]]''. Later at the base, Bumblebee found that Raf had let a bunch of Vehicons into the base, and was about to shut the [[GroundBridge]] down, when Raf stopped him. Raf, who had been temporarily hypnotised by the game, instead shut the bridge down in a way that sucked the remaining Vehicons back through and kept the location of the base concealed from the enemy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

[[Image:Titan4.9 Bumblebee and Bulkhead.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I R serious Bee. this is serious wiki.]]
After the [[President of the United States]] was kidnapped, the Autobots traced the culprit, Starscream, to the [[Grand Canyon]]. Bumblebee and Arcee teamed up to take out the cannons manned by Vehicons that Starscream had brought along. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|All the President's 'Bots!}} Bulkhead and Bumblebee retrieved Knock Out's [[neuron refractor]] from China, unaware that a MECH agent had stowed away in it. After [[Novo|Agent Novo]] kidnapped Miko, the Autobots searched for the two humans, and located the MECH base in time for Novo, now occupying a mechanoid body, to return Miko. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.9|The Novo Incident}}

Bumblebee was on a team which went to the [[Deep Driller]] oil rig and fell into [[Rufus Madison|General Madison]]'s trap, finding themselves facing soldiers in [[robotic battle suit]]s. Bumblebee was able to defeat a couple of them by tricking them into bringing a crane down on themselves. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.10|Mad Dogs & Autobots}} Bumblebee took part in a mission to the ''Nemesis'' to rescue Bulkhead. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.11|The Battle for Bulkhead}}

During a battle in [[The Wave]], Bumblebee tried to protect the three kids, only to be knocked down by a projectile from [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]. Ratchet patched him up and sent him back to base with Raf, but after the pair fell asleep watching a horror cartoon, Soundwave's disembodied hand crawled out of Bumblebee's chest wound and tried to kill them. Raf helped Bumblebee dispose of the hand, leaving their next task to explain to the arriving Autobots why the base was in such a mess. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.12|The Evil Shred}}

Bumblebee and Prime went on a stealth mission to stop Megatron destroying the [[Statue of Liberty]], but didn't last long until they were discovered. As Megatron immediately began climbing the statue, Optimus left Bumblebee to deal with the other Decepticons on his own, though he claimed he was brave enough to. As Megatron was about to decapitate the statue, Bumblebee threw one of the Vehicons at him, almost knocking him off. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.13|Protecting the Lady}}
===Mega-Mouth===
One of Arcee's nicknames for Bumblebee is "the Big Buzz". {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.14|Mega-Mouth #14}}

===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
{{Voiceactor|[[Nicole Dubuc]]}}
[[Image:Bttr bumblebee blades.jpg|thumb|left|280px|My name is Bumblebee, and I approve this crossover.]]
Bumblebee tracked a meteor to [[Wayward Island]], and ran into the [[Rescue Bot]]s and their attendant humans during his search. After joining up with them to find the meteorite, he returned with them to [[Griffin Rock]] and reported back to [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], who ordered him to spend some time with the team. When three of the Rescue Bots were stricken with a strange virus, Bumblebee helped out in a rescue, following which he accompanied the humans back to Wayward Island to deal with the meteorite. He ended up stuck in an undersea trench after rescuing [[Graham Burns]], and was himself rescued by [[Blades (RB)|Blades]]. Faced with an out-of-control bomb, the two Bots used it to destroy the meteorite, but were infected by the virus themselves. Luckily Bumblebee had picked up a sample of the meteorite which was used to find a cure to the virus, and after some photos, Bumblebee returned home. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (RB)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}}

When the Rescue Bots were sent back in time to [[1939]], Bumblebee and Optimus went to Griffin Rock to embark on a journey back in time to help. They arrived in time to rescue the four Bots from [[Thaddeus Morocco|Doctor Morocco]] and returned with them to the [[Temporal Station|time machine]]. Back in the present, however, they found themselves in a Griffin Rock overrun with [[MorBot]]s. {{storylink|It's a Bot Time}} Optimus and Bumblebee were kept busy trashing MorBots while the Rescue Bots worked out what was going on. By the time the pair ran out of MorBots, the team was ready to return to 1939, where they rescued [[Dither]] from Morocco, restoring the timeline to normal, before traveling back to the present. {{storylink|Bot to the Future}}
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===''Tales of the Beast Hunters''===
Searching for a way to combat [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], Bumblebee stumbled on data stored with an Iacon relic pointing to the location of a derelict starship containing a cache of weapons, hidden in the [[asteroid belt]]. He contacted [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 1}} and the pair blasted off in the [[Jackhammer (Prime)|Jackhammer]]. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 2}} Surprisingly the found the ship and the weapons it contained, only to find they'd been followed by [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and Predaking. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 4}} [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]] soon came to their aid via GroundBridge {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 5}} and was able to keep the enemy busy long enough for Bumblebee and Wheeljack to escape with some of the weapon crates. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 6}} Bumblebee was nonetheless left injured and unable to go on further missions. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 10}}

When Bumblebee finally recovered, Ratchet assigned him to light duties patrolling with [[Prowl (WFC)|Prowl]]. Resenting the fact that everyone else was off fighting Predacons, Bumblebee was almost resigned to the most boring mission ever when Megatron turned up. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 23}} Bumblebee didn't get to take part in the fight though, because Prowl opted to let Megatron duke it out with the swarm of Predacons which promptly attacked the Decepticon leader. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 24}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)|[[Renato Novara]] (Italian)}}

[[Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The time has come and so have I... I'll laugh last 'cause you came to die.]]
During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (WFC)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.

[[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Autobots... [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?"]]]]
Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, and Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. Soon, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After they fought off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Optimus then explained he could not open the other prisoners' cells, despite Bumblebee's pleas. Heading to retrieve Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility, so the control wouldn't release him. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots.

During the evacuation of Cybertron, Megatron used Trypticon Station to fire on the Autobots' escape pods. After the Aerialbots destroyed Trypticon's conversion cog and sent him plummeting to the planet's surface, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus Prime and Ironhide to look for the crash site. Once Trypticon was found to still function, Bumblebee assisted in fighting him, overloading his shoulder cannons with energon batteries and destroying his heat vents. After greatly damaging Trypticon, Oprimus Prime declared Trypticon had lost and knocked him into an energon lake with his axe. Afterward, Bumblebee was present at the unveiling of the Ark, where he reminded Optimus Prime that Megatron was "still out there". {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)}}
{{quote|Watch out, Decepticons! I'm kind of a big deal!|Bumblebee}}
[[Image:WFCDS Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|89px|Small, but noisy.]]
When a distress call from Zeta Prime was received by the Autobots, they sent Bumblebee to find Optimus so they could repair the communications system. Bumblebee and Optimus were seen battling Decepticons together by an Autobot rookie when he arrived at the Autobot base. When Optimus was later disabled by [[laser guard]]s, Bumblebee was instrumental in reviving him, and helped him defeat [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]]. After the Autobots retook [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Bumblebee exploded verbally at Ironhide, complaining that they'd already lost the war. Optimus told him that that attitude was just what Megatron wanted.

Prime's transmissions led the Autobots to infiltrate Kaon Prison, a place Bumblebee found terrifying to the point where Ironhide had to try and calm him and Optimus told them both to quiet down. They eventually found Zeta Prime, in time for their leader to expire. After Optimus was made the new Prime, the Autobots tried to enlist the help of [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]. Bumblebee slyly goaded Grimlock into challenging Optimus to a contest, however instead the Autobots ended up rescuing Swoop who'd been kidnapped by the Decepticons. The Autobots were forced to venture down to Cybertron's core to disable the Dark Energon corruptors, so that Cybertron's core could begin repairing itself, however the planet was left unable to sustain Transformer life.

As the Autobots began to evacuate in arks, Trypticon station began firing on them. Optimus prepared to take a team to the station to attack it from the inside, and Bumblebee was the first to volunteer to go along. They infiltrated the station and destroyed its power core, causing it to plunge from orbit. To the Autobots' surprise, the station transformed into a monster which Bumblebee found terrifying, but he still took part in the battle to destroy it. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
{{voiceactor|[[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English)|[[Renato Novara]] (Italian)}}

In order to find out more about "Trypticon", Bumblebee and Ironhide were ordered to infiltrate a Decepticon datacore and extract the info stored inside it. Looking for a back way in, Ironhide uncovered a transit shaft, but it was too small for him to reconnoiter. Splitting up, Bumblebee took the shaft while Ironhide circled around to find another way in. Inside the datacore, they retrieved the intel on Trypticon, but were unable to escape without being noticed. The ruckus they raised in Kaon caught Megatron's attempt, and he arrived to fell both Autobots before they made it out of the city-state. Megatron subjected Bumblebee to a neural scanner to forcibly extract Autobot secrets from his mind. Bumblebee struggled to resist the scanner, but still unwillingly gave up some intel before Ironhide broke them both free. They eventually made it out of Kaon in one piece, thanks in part to the air support provided by Air Raid.

After the power supply was cut off to Trypticon from the Geosynchronous Energy Bridge, the Autobots began to prep supplies for their evacuation of the planet. On one such supply convoy, Bumblebee ran defensive reconnaissance to protect the convoy from Decepticon attack. Bumblebee blamed himself for allowing the decepticons to access his mind using the neural scanner, and was extra dedicated to the mission in his effort to redeem himself, even if only in his own eyes. He uncovered an ambush plot on the roadway, and alerted Optimus to the threat. Taking point, he intervened on several other ambush attempts along the way.

After Trypticon Station fell to Cybertron's surface and revealed itself as a gi-normous transforming creature, Bumblebee joined Optimus Prime and Ironhide in racing to the crash site to finish him off. They were separated during the journey, and had to fight through multiple Decepticon vanguards before even reaching Trypticon. Eventually, it was the combined firepower and teamwork of the Autobot forces that brought down the dangerous dinosaur. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}
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===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh my God, they killed Kenny! You bastards!]]
As the Autobots worked towards preparing the [[Ark (WFC)|Ark]] for launch, the Decepticons attacked the city. Bumblebee was helping out [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] with the wounded when [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] arrived, and helped with an injured soldier. He was part of the bridge crew when the ship launched, and when they were intercepted by the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'', defended the bridge alongside Optimus. Prime left to tend to the engine room, and Bumblebee was sent to replace a [[moleculon fuse|fuse]] so they could get the defense systems back up and running. He succeeded, allowing the ''Ark'' to start returning fire on the Decepticon ship, and began heading for the engine room. By the time he got there, Optimus and [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] were engaged in a ferocious battle, with Optimus losing. As Megatron fired off a killing shot, Bumblebee threw himself in the way and took the shot to the chest. Enraged, Optimus renewed his assault on Megatron, but a short time later both ships were sucked through the [[space bridge]] portal. {{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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=== ''Transformers: Prime - The Game ===
[[Image:Transformers prime the game bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I should probably say something...but that might be difficult.]]

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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in ''Tron 3.0.'']]
*'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' Handgun
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)#Toys|War for Cybertron]]'' Cybertronian Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a "Cybertronian courier mode". His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun is held via [[5mm post]], and can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode. Bumblebee's head appears to have [[light-piping]], but his eyes are painted over in blue, thus rendering the gimmick neutered. His legs are generally loose at the mid-thigh joint due to being used for transformation.

:He and Cybertronian [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Generations|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#United|Bumblebee Cybertron Mode]], as well as [[retool]]ed into ''Generations/War for Cybertron'' [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] and ''United'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)#United|Cliffjumper Cybertron Mode]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Rescue Bots===
[[File:RescueBots Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dear God, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|they're]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|crossbreeding!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (2011)
:Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car which presumably can be used by the humans in the rescue team to speed to problem sites, while staying within the speed limit, of course. Tugging either end of the vehicle will [[autotransformation|autotransform]] him back into robot mode.

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[[File:RescueBots Garage Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Bumblebee enjoys hiding underneath cars that look like him.]]
*'''Bumblebee Rescue Garage''' (2011)
**''Accessories:'' Bumblebee, Axel Frazier
:The [[Bumblebee Rescue Garage]] comes with a smaller Bumblebee toy not unlike an [[Robot Powered Machines|RPM]] or [[Speed Stars]] toy in function. Standing the vehicle on end reveals Bumblebee's robot mode embossed on its underside. The back of Bumblebee's car mode also has a cavity in which the included Axel Frazier figure can ride.

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[[File:RescueBots Energize Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Bumblebee''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Jackhammer
:Bumblebee's original ''Rescue Bots'' mold was retooled to add sockets onto his hood and released as part of the "Energize" line. He also features translucent blue plastic on his hood and doors, and has a jackhammer accessory made from the same plastic which plugs into the sockets on his hood.

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[[File:RescueBots Electronic Energize Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Electronic Bumblebee''' (2013)
:A larger non-transforming toy, Bumblebee features electronic lights and sounds. His right-hand is replaced by a "rescue drill" which oddly resembles ''Animated'' [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s [[stinger (weapon)|stinger]]s and which spins when you press a button on his right forearm.

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[[File:RescueBots Bumblebee and GrahamBurns.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Energize Bumblebee and Graham Burns''' (2013)
:Available in a two-pack with [[Graham Burns]], Bumblebee is a non-transforming but articulated figure, appearing rather more [[show-accuracy|show accurate]] than his previous ''Rescue Bots'' toys. His left hand is morphed into a blue jackhammer.

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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianBumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The Grid. A digital frontier. I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': Handgun

: ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' '''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' is a [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of ''Generations'' Cybertronian Bumblebee, with most of the original version's black plastic changed to gray, clear blue headlights and rims, red tint for the windows, most of the red paint details changed to blue, and additional blue circuitry paint details resembling the "overshield" effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game. He was only available in a three-pack with redecos of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Transformers (2010)|Cybertronian Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (WFC)#Transformers (2010)|Cybertronian Megatron]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/TRUROCBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on "Rage over Cybertron" Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Cyberverse===
[[Image:Prime-toy BumblebeeCyberverse.jpg|thumb|300px|I think my gun overheated...]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Series / Number:'' '''2 / 001'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[March 21]], 2012'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-04'''
**''Accessories:'' Blaster

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 2|Series 2 ''Cyberverse'']] Legion Class toys, Bumblebee transforms into an [[Urbana 500]] muscle car. He features numerous [[C joint|3mm port]]s for mounting Cyberverse weapons, such as on his hands, doors/arms, and roof/back.

:He comes with a blaster (modeled after his in-show cannon) that features two 3mm posts and a port, and is cast in soft translucent red plastic. This weapon, in a variety of colors, is also used by ''Cyberverse'' [[Arcee (WFC)#Cyberverse|Arcee]], [[Evac (Ride)#Cyberverse|Evac]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Hyperspeed|Hyperspeed Wheeljack]], [[Tailgate (Prime)|Autobot Tailgate]] and the [[Bumblebee (WFC)#CyberverseBattlesuit|redeco]] of Bumblebee that comes with the [[Bumblebee Battle Suit]] (see below).

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/LegBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cyberverse Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-Cyberverse-QuickbladeBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Quickblade Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Series / Number:'' '''2 / 011'''
**''Accessories:'' Combat blade

: Part of the third wave of ''Prime Cyberverse'' Legion Class toys, Quickblade Bumblebee is a redeco of Legion Class Bumblebee in black with yellow stripes. He comes with a "combat blade", a soft translucent-green blade weapon that can mount/be held via any of its four 3mm pegs. In varying colors, it was used by [[Ratchet (WFC)#Cyberverse|Ratchet]], [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Cyberverse|Cliffjumper]], [[Knock Out (Prime)#CyberverseSingle|Knock Out]], and ''Dark of the Moon'' [[Mirage (Movie)#Cyberverse|Mirage]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/LegQBBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Quickblade Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-Cyberverse-BumblebeeBattleSuit-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|... Oh, nevermind. It's all cool now.]]
*'''Bumblebee Battle Suit''' (Cyberverse Vehicle, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 003'''
**''Accessories:'' Large missile-firing blaster, missile, small double-barreled blaster

: Part of the second wave of ''Prime Cyberverse'' Vehicle playsets, the [[Bumblebee Battle Suit]] comes with a redeco of Legion Class Bumblebee, who features brighter, paler yellow plastic, trades in his black stripes for sparkly dark-blue, replaces his silver-painted windshields with metallic light-blue, switches the silver on his abdomen and shins with metallic dark-blue, replaces the black grill with silver, omits the stripe portions at the center of the hood, and removes the silver on his feet. In addition to the suit's other accessories, Bumblebee still comes with his double-barreled blaster, with the color changed from translucent red to translucent light blue.

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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-Cyberverse-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)
**''Series / Number:'' '''3 / 004'''
**''Accessories'': Eagleshot Bow

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 3|Series 3 ''Cyberverse'']] Legion Class toys, Bumblebee is a redeco and significant "retool" (in the loosest sense of the term; ''literally'' every single part except for his wheels and the shoulder joints is modified) of Legion Class Bumblebee, transforming into a heavily armed Urbana 500 muscle car with spikes covering the front wheels, sculpted missile launchers and boosters/blasters on the doors, armor panels at the rear, and a large version of his double-barreled blaster sculpted onto his hood, the barrels of which end up mounted on his chest/shoulders in robot mode. He sports various 3mm ports in the same places the original Legion Class toy did.

:He comes with the "[[Eagleshot Bow]]", a crossbow which has two 3mm ports and three posts, allowing it to mount/be mounted in different ways. This bow, in varying colors, was also used by [[Airachnid (Prime)#Cyberverse|Airachnid]], [[Windrazor (Prime)#Toys|Windrazor]], and [[Rippersnapper (Prime)#Toys|Rippersnapper]].

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*'''Energon Driller with Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Vehicle, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''3 / 003'''
**''Accessories:'' Prod, saw, Eagleshot Bow, Energon Booster

: The only new product from the second wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters Cyberverse'' Vehicle playsets, the [[Energon Driller]] (a redeco of the Series 2 Driller stripped of its electronics) comes with a redeco of Legion Class Series 3 Bumblebee, who features an ever-so-slightly darker shade of yellow plastic, black instead of charcoal wheels and hip and shoulder joints, dark metallic blue instead of black paint details for his front bumper, windscreen, shins and forearms/vehicle mode doors, black instead of silver paint operations for the face and the double-barreled blaster on the hood, and less saturated blue paint operations for the eyes.

: He comes with blue redecos of the Series 2 Driller's prod and saw accessories, which were originally meant for [[Knock Out (Prime)#Cyberverse|Knock Out]], as well as the Eagleshot Bow. The Energon Booster (originally part of the Series 2 Vehicles' light-up gimmick) is also included as a separate piece no longer connected to the Driller by a power cable, and can also be used by Bumblebee as a hand-held weapon.

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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeNYCC.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sorry, you won't actually be able to ride one of these in New York.]]
*'''Bumblebee and Arcee, Includes Raf Esquivel and Jack Darby''' (NYCC 2011 exclusive)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted twin-cannon

:Bumblebee is an orange-ish redeco of First Edition Bumblebee (see below) as a New York taxicab and comes with a pink [[Arcee (WFC)#Prime: First Edition|Arcee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby (Prime)#Prime|Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel#Prime|Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at [[New York Comic Con|New York Comic Con 2011]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/NYCCBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on First Edition NYCC Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pirates radio clips ''and'' Jazz's transformation scheme.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' ("First Edition" Deluxe Class, 2011)
**''Number:'' '''001'''
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted twin-cannon, stand

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'' figures, this Deluxe-sized incarnation of Bumblebee transforms into a yellow Urbana 500 muscle car. An arm-mounted blaster can be pegged via 5mm peg into either of his forearms or stowed underneath the vehicle mode. As with other "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, he comes with a cardboard display stand which sits at the bottom of the packaging.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2011/Autobot/PrimeBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on First Edition Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Prime===
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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''Here'''s my other blaster!]]
[[Image:Prime-toy_BumblebeeTakTomDx.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 001'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[March 31]], 2012'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AM-02'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted blasters (Hasbro only), "B.2" Arms Micron (Takara only)

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Deluxe Class toys, this Bumblebee is an entirely new mold, and features a much simpler transformation (and slightly decreased posability), including a "dramatic head reveal": the entire car-mode front section is geared together, so when the robot-mode shoulders are pulled out, the hood opens up to flip out Bumblebee's head and expand his chest. Two blaster-weapons are now included, which use [[5mm post|5mm posts and holes]] to mount on his forearms, engine block, or be used as hand-held weapons. They can also combine to form a larger quad-barreled cannon. While the [[instructions]] are rather vague about it, his folded-up roof actually features a tab that's meant to peg into a slot behind his pelvis, securing his roof somewhat in robot mode. This version of the toy was later retooled into [[Hot Shot (WFC)|Hot Shot]].

: In wave six of the "Robots in Disguise" toyline, Bumblebee was put into new packaging, which came with a DVD featuring the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'' episode "[[Loose Cannons]]".

: The [[TakaraTomy]] version of Bumblebee, part of the first wave of ''Prime'' toys, is considerably different. His roof and doors have been retooled to include 5mm-hole mounting points, which are meant to be used with the new [[Arms Micron]] system. As such, he does not come with the Hasbro version's blasters, instead coming with the Arms Micron [[B.2]], who transforms into an over-sized version of Bumblebee's wrist-mounted blasters. His [[paint operation]]s have also been pretty heavily decreased; his doors, roof and rear window-frame have stripe-less solid-yellow paint to cover the clear plastic, leaving his engine block, grill-parts and face the only "detail-painted" parts on the toy. Most of his detailing, like his car-mode striping, is provided by a separate sheet of customer-applied foil [[sticker]]s. (This actually allows for more [[show-accuracy|show-accurate]] stripes than the painted Hasbro version.) Unfortunately, he suffers from a particularly horrid case of sticker placement: The [[instructions]] tell you to place stickers between his front wheels and doors to continue his stripe patterns, but due to how the doors are jointed, there is not enough clearance near them to accommodate these stickers, and opening the doors will ''destroy'' the stickers.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Robots in Disguise Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1465.html Arms Micron Bumblebee at Alfes's toy blog]''

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[[Image:Primetoy-UltimateOpponentsBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|[[Show-accuracy|Denied!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee vs. Starscream: Ultimate Opponents''' (Entertainment Pack, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted weapon

: This Deluxe Class Bumblebee is a redeco of his First Edition release in a darker, more orange shade of yellow plastic, similar to the same mould's NYCC exclusive version. He features brighter silver highlights and an inexplicable recoloring of his racing stripes to an aqua blue, which fade back to their regular black halfway along his car mode.

: Bumblebee came packed-in with a redeco of First Edition Starscream, small unarticulated figurines of [[Silas]] and a MECH soldier, as well as a DVD containing the episodes ''[[Convoy (episode)|Convoy]]'', ''[[Sick Mind]]'' and ''[[Out of His Head]]''. The two-pack was also available in Australian markets virtually unchanged, except the DVD was replaced with a booklet including short (and by that, we mean one sentence) bios as well as [[Tech Spec]]s for [[Breakdown (WFC)|most]] [[Airachnid (Prime)|of]] the characters.

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[[Image:Primetoy-WeaponizerClassBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Eight. Count 'em. Eight wheels.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 002'''
**''Accessories:'' Blaster pistol

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Weaponizer Class toys,. Bumblebee is a large, roughly Leader-sized mold with a simplified transformation scheme, more accurate proportions, and a grand total of ''four'' [[Kibble#"Faux-parts"|fake wheel]]s on his person due to said transformation. He comes with a double-barreled blaster pistol which can mount onto his hands, forearms, and trunk.

: His ''main'' gimmicks, however, are the two large mini-guns hidden in his hood-chest, which can deploy and "weaponize" either mode. When his robot head/engine block is pressed down, the mini-guns swing out from his hood-chest and spin, while a red LED inside his torso lights up briefly. Pushing on the gray lever/the center front fender portion (both on his chest) briefly lights up the LED again and swings the mini-guns back into his body.

: His [[stock photography]] gives him a [[:Image:Transformers-Prime-Weaponizers-Bumblebee.jpg|''completely'' different vehicle deco]] compared to the final product, with the final toy having fewer [[paint operation]]s overall. The final product lacks the stripe patterns between the front wheels and doors due to that patch being made of [[unpaintable plastic]], shrinks the stripes on the hood, tapers the door stripes towards the front and extends it towards the rear wheels, rearranges the stripes on the trunk, roof, and behind the engine block, shrinks the Autobot symbol on the roof, and moves said symbol to the front of the hood. The hood stripes, in particular, have been ''significantly'' shrunk into what are essentially ''pinstripes''.

: A [[Variant#Running changes|running change variant]] of this figure features much thicker stripes on his hood-chest.

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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-ShadowStrikeBee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Great. Now everyone will think he's a part of the pavement.]]
*'''Shadow Strike Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 011'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted blasters

: Part of the fourth wave of ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Deluxe Class toys, Shadow Strike Bumblebee is a redeco of "Robots in Disguise" Deluxe Class Bumblebee, and is cast in gray, yellow, and translucent blue plastic. He features new yellow stripe patterns and deco, with some gray and black paint details here and there.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/SSBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Shadow Strike Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:PrimeRCtoy-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Bumblebee joins the [[Autoroller]]s.]]
*'''Remote Controlled Bumblebee''' (2012)
**''Accessories'': Remote control

:An electronic Bumblebee, operable by remote control. As well as driving around, the remote control allows you to convert Bumblebee from car to robot and trigger his punching action.

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[[Image:Prime-toy BumblebeeTerrorcon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Terrorcon Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, [[August 10|8-10]]-2012)
**''Accessories'': "Terrorcon Zori" Arms Micron

: Meant to represent Bumblebee turned into a vicious monster after being infused with [[Dark Energon]], "Terrorcon Bumblebee" is the Arms Micron Bee molding done in black, gray and clear-purple. Rather than his nominal Arms Micron partner, B.2, he instead comes with [[Zori#Terrorcon|Terrorcon Zori]], a clear-purple version of [[Soundwave (WFC)#Prime|Soundwave]]'s Micron partner. This set was available as an [[AEON]] stores exclusive in Japan.

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[[Image:PrimeDEtoy-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|All that glitters is not Goldbug.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Dark Energon Series Deluxe, 2012)
**''Number'': '''001'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters

: Another Dark-Energon-infused iteration of Bumblebee, but still an Autobot and apparently not a brutal killing machine, ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Dark Energon Series|Prime: Dark Energon]]'' Bumblebee is a [[BigBadToyStore]]-exclusive redeco of "Robots in Disguise" Deluxe Class Bumblebee, and is cast in translucent glittery-gold and opaque blue plastics as an [[homage]] to [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Goldbug|Generation 1 Goldbug]].

: Though he was packaged on an individual card, he was initially sold as part of a set with the Dark Energon versions of [[Knock Out (Prime)#DarkEnergon|Knock Out]], [[Starscream (WFC)#DarkEnergon|Starscream]], and [[Wheeljack (Prime)#DarkEnergon|Wheeljack]]. He was eventually made available on his own, and the Dark Energon Series toys were eventually made available in Singapore as mass-retail releases.

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===Beast Hunters===
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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-DeluxeBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Derf, a life-form's gotta do what a life-form's gotta do.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 001'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eagleshot Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Bumblebee is a redeco and extensive retool of the ''Robots in Disguise'' Deluxe Class Bumblebee mold, transforming into a heavily-modified Urbana 500 muscle car that's covered in spikes. Bumblebee's roof has been retooled with an additional 5mm peg-hole, and the hinge joint at the rear windshield has been removed.

:He retains the two arm-mounted blasters, and now additionally comes with a larger-scale "Eagleshot Bow", a large, spring-loaded [[missile]]-launching bow, as well as six missiles. The missiles can slide in and store on brackets in various places, with two brackets located on top of the bow, and two rotating brackets located on each door. The prods on the sides of the bow can be opened manually, but are meant to open automatically when a missile is inserted into the launcher.

:His instructions include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 1|first chapter]] of the ''[[Tales of the Beast Hunters]]'' series.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2013/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on ''Beast Hunters'' Bumblebee at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-Deluxe-NightShadowBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|About time this mold got painted rims.]]
*'''Night Shadow Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 015'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eaglefire Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the fifth wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toys, Night Shadow Bumblebee is a redeco of his ''Beast Hunters'' toy, sporting a black and gold color scheme similar to his depiction in the third season of the ''Prime'' cartoon, but with additional teal and silver details. His bow has been redecoed into the "[[Eagleshot Bow|Eaglefire Bow]]", representing an upgraded version of his previous "Eagleshot Bow".

:His stock photos depict his hood/chest as being cast in a mixture of black and gold plastic, whereas the final product casts these parts just in black.

:His instructions include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 23|twenty-third chapter]] of the ''Tales of the Beast Hunters'' series.

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[[Image:BHPRtoy-NovaBlastBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's basically lemonade and blueberry juice with a hint of pepper.]]
*'''Nova Blast Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, Eagleshot Bow, 6 missiles

: Part of the "[[Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising|Predacons Rising]]" [[subline imprint]], Nova Blast Bumblebee is a redeco of his ''Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toy that changes some black and yellow sections to blue, changes some [[paint operation]]s, and adds light blue flames to the sides of his hood/chest.

: Like all ''Predacons Rising'' releases, Nova Blast Bumblebee was [[exclusive]] to [[Target]] stores in the United States, and to [[Tesco]] and Auchan stores in Europe.

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*'''Talking Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2013)
**''Accessories'': Blaster pistol, bow

: Part of the first wave of ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Weaponizer Class toys, "Talking Bumblebee" is a redeco/retool of his ''Robots in Disguise'' Weaponizer toy, sporting a black and yellow color scheme similar to his depiction in the third season of the ''Prime'' cartoon, as well as a new head-sculpt that features a mouth. He comes with a ''massive'' bow and features a talking gimmick.

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*'''Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Sword

:Part of the first wave of 2014 ''Prime: Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Class toys, Bumblebee is functionally an upsized copy of his ''Beast Hunters Cyberverse'' toy, though with minor detail differences and the replacement of ball joints with more robust universal joints. As such, his parts count, complexity and articulation are all significantly lower than in previous Deluxes.

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===Go!===
*'''Hunter Bumblebee''' ([[April 27|04–27]]–13)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''G14'''
**''Accessories'': 2 arm-mounted blasters, "Needle Arrow" bow, 6 missiles
:Hunter Bumblebee is a [[redeco]] of the ''Beast Hunters'' Deluxe Bumblebee toy, released in [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Triple Combination: Transformers Go! (toyline)|Transformers Go!]]'' toyline. He's cast in a slightly more orange shade of yellow and has some minor differences in paint as well, such as shinier headlights and entirely black lines on his hood as opposed to the ''Beast Hunters'' toy's partially silver ones.

==Merchandise==
===McDonald's===
[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeHappyMeal.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Happy Meal, 2012)
:*''McNumber:'' '''3'''
:Happy Meal Bumblebee is a nontransformable sports car! A spring-loaded missile launcher can be revealed in his roof, and when a missile is inserted, pressing the Autobot symbol on the roof fires it.

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*'''Bumblebee Ion Blaster''' (2012)

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==Notes==
[[Image:VectorSigmaBotBuilderBumblebee.jpg|thumb|Cheddar-flavored.]]
* ''War for Cybertron'' Bumblebee was designed by [[Jim Daly]], and it's that specific character concept art that won [[Hasbro]] over on giving [[High Moon Studios]] the game.
* Bumblebee's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Runner-type chassis for [[Scout (WFC)|Scout]]-class characters. His parts are also available in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Recon-type components for the [[Infiltrator (FOC)|Infiltrator]] class (although his wheels can also be used by [[Destroyer (FOC)|Destroyers]]).
* [[Alex Irvine]] wrote the short story ''[[Bumblebee at Tyger Pax]]'', expanding on how Bumblebee lost his vocoder in ''Exodus''.
* [[Jeff Kline]] said why Bumblebee lost his voice will be revealed in season two of ''Prime'',<ref>[http://collider.com/roberto-orci-jeff-kline-interview-transformers-prime/75039/ Collider interview]</ref> though [[Duane Capizzi]] broke the suspense when he said it would be for the same reason as ''Exodus''.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW Q&A]</ref>
*In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and '''HALF''' of the Autobots get out. Weird. Guess his father was a clown car.
* Bumblebee's [[license plate]] in "[[Speed Metal]]" is "'''936 SOH'''".
* Unlike [[Bumblebee (Movie)|that other mute Bumblebee]], who cannot directly communicate at all, and who splices together radio signals as a primitive method of conveying his thoughts, the beeps and tones produced by ''Prime'' Bumblebee seem to be a language of their own, which is fully understood by other Cybertronians (and, oddly, Raf).
* Bumblebee's body parts are available to use in the Hub website's [[Vector Sigma Bot Builder]] online game. Normally, you cannot configure a generic 'bot using all Bumblebee parts, but you can see what one would look like at right through the magic of Photoshop. Unlike most of his peers, who were hue-shifted into different colors, Bumblebee seems to look exactly the same as he always does.
*Bumblebee is a guest on the DVD/Blu-Ray commentary for "Shadowzone". [[Dave Hartman]] apparently shares Raf's ability to understand him.
*According to the Autobits version of [[Darkmount, NV]], [[Frank Welker]] records words for Bumblebee, which are then replaced with the character's normal beeping sounds.
* He wears a retractable battle mask, similar to Optimus Prime's. It is possible this mask is what helps him make beeping noises.

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===Arms Up Modes===
In the Japanese ''Prime'' toyline, Bumblebee has several powered-up modes when given various [[Arms Micron]]s in certain configurations:

[[Image:DarknessRising4 CybSat-BeeBanBan.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gahqavv9aUQ You've got to aim for the kneecaps and then kick her head off.]"]]

*'''Striker Mode''' (ストライカーモード ''Sutoraikā Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, C.L., O.P., R.A.
:The Arms Up form shown on Bumblebee's box-back photo. In this form, B.2 is mounted on his left arm, with [[R.A.]] on his right, while [[C.L.]] and [[O.P.]] take positions on Bee's backpack (which has been flipped up to allow the gun-Microns to fire sorta-forward).

*'''Mecha Uchi Ban Ban Mode''' (メチャウチバンバンモード ''Mecha Uchi Ban Ban Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, O.P., R.A.
:Roughly translated as "Extreme Firefight Bang Bang Mode", this "Anti-Terrorcon" Mode turns the three Microns into a gun emplacement that isn't actually attached to Bee, just one he stands behind. Introduced in the "[[From the Cybertron Satellite, Transformers Division|Cybertron Satellite]]" segment from "[[Darkness Rising, Part 4|Infiltration Transformation! Battleship Nemesis]]".

*'''Mecha Uchi Kidō Type''' (メチャウチ機動タイプ ''Mecha Uchi Kidō Taipu'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, C.L.
: Roughly translated as "Extreme Firefight Agile Type", this other "Anti-Terrorcon" attack mode is... just Bee with B.2 on one arm and C.L. on the other. ''Exciting.'' But it was highlighted and named in the same episode as the Mechya Uchi Ban Ban Mode, so, well, for completism's sake....

*'''Infection Mode''' (インフェックションモード ''Infuekkushon Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': B.2, Terrorcon Zori
: Terrorcon Bumblebee's Arms Up mode is simply him using [[Zori#Toys|Terrorcon Zori]] in his right hand, and B.2 in his left. Wooo.
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===Foreign names===
*''Hungarian:'' '''Bumblebee''', '''Űrdongó''' (''Rescue Bots'' cartoon, "Space-Bumblebee")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dà-huáng-fēng''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Russian:'' '''Shershen'''' (Шершень, "Hornet")

==References==
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Knock Out (Prime)

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:''Knock Out is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:KnockOut-render.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm super, thanks for asking.]]

Sure, [[Starscream (WFC)|other Decepticons]] may scoff at his decision to go with a land-based alternate mode, but '''Knock Out''' couldn't care less. He knows the value of looking ''good'' and isn't afraid to let others know it. It's not simply his own lines he's interested in; he has an appreciation for well-built mechanical bodyforms of all sizes and functions... and a nasty penchant for tearing them apart after he's done admiring them. Slick, sly and snobbish, he's the Decepticons' medic, though he professes both a preference and proficiency for ''dis''-assembly. However, his medical skill has kept him in high demand; he's even performed vital and experimental surgeries on [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]].

While not entirely a coward - he's taken on [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] by himself at least once! - Knock Out also knows a good thing or two about self-preservation. When the going gets tough, Knock Out gets going - the opposite direction. He has no qualms with abandoning ship if only to save his hide, even if it means betraying a comatose leader or deserting altogether. He doesn't get the most respect on the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'', either. Show him some kindness, and hey, maybe he'll stick by your side.

Both in the operation room and on the battlefield, Knock Out typically works with his brutish partner [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]]. Knock Out is the speedster of the duo, swiftly striking his victim's vulnerables with his [[Energon prod]] in debilitating sneak attacks while Breakdown goes the "massive smackdown" route with his raw power.

{{quote|I'm not only an automobile; I'm an automobile ''enthusiast''.|Knock Out explains to Starscream why he took his alternate mode|"[[Speed Metal]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Daran Norris]] (English), [[Ernie Hudson]] (BotCon 2011), [[Yasunori Masutani]] (Japanese)|[[Diego Sabre]] (Italian), [[Stephan Rabow]] (German), [[Milton Wolch]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Jari Salo]] (Finnish)}}

[[Image:TFPrime KnockOutDrill.JPG|left|thumb|250px|"Prepare for valmorification!"]]

[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] called Knock Out and Breakdown to the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'' to help fix [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]]. As they were on an [[energon]] trail at the time, only Knock Out initially turned up at the ship, and he was shocked at Megatron's condition. When Breakdown did join them, it was with news that he'd discovered an [[Energon Harvester]] was on [[Earth]]. As the [[Autobot]]s had already surrounded the museum the device was in, Knock Out and Breakdown organised a diversion at the front of the building. During the fight, Knock Out attacked [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] with his prod, but was flattened by [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] after the Autobot was punched by Breakdown. The two Decepticons sped off into the city after they saw that [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] had captured the Harvester. Knock Out subsequently accompanied Starscream and Breakdown to an energon seam in [[Greece]]. He and Breakdown got the opportunity to fight Bulkhead again, but came off decidedly second-best, and they both fled after the Harvester was destroyed and the other Autobots turned up. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:KnockOutvehiclemode.jpg|thumb|250px|The 2011 Stryker-Z.]]
Knock Out took to engaging in street racing with the humans. On one occasion, a [[Fast Willy|hapless human]] who scratched his paint job was run off the road by the Decepticon. Despite Starscream's disapproval of his participation in such events, Knock Out continued to cruise around, looking for action, and was eventually drawn to a street race near [[Jasper]]. After the race started, he realized that one of the other cars taking part was [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] and attacked the Autobot. He ended up grabbing what he assumed was Bumblebee's human pal, but was actually an unrelated human named [[Vince]]. Making off, he contacted Breakdown and they attempted to spring an ambush on the three Autobots who came to rescue the boy, but after [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] jumped on him, he decided to withdraw to avoid any more damage to his finish. Unfortunately he was caught by Optimus Prime, who ''ripped his door off'' while rescuing Vince. Faced with four Autobots, Knock Out fled back to the ''Nemesis'' only to face a very angry Starscream, who put a few more scratches in his finish. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

Starscream offered him a position as second-in-command if he helped convince Soundwave that they needed to humanely terminate Megatron. Knock Out tried his best, pointing out that the brain activity Megatron was displaying just meant their leader was in a dream state from which he might never wake up. Soundwave remained unconvinced, and after an Autobot incursion severed Megatron's life support, Knock Out was forced to reconnect it. The medic later reported to Starscream that, though Megatron's body lived on, his brain activity had ceased. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutHead-Knockoutfails.jpg|thumb|250px|left|"But he came aboard the bow, my Lord!"]]

He found Starscream in the middle of making a speech to Megatron's body and reminded Starscream of his rank. During the enacting of Starscream's new plan, Knock Out stood atop the ship's back, watching as a Vehicon activated a heat ray to melt a glacier. He ordered Breakdown to take care of Bulkhead and Arcee when the two Autobots turned up, but failed to notice Optimus approaching the ship from behind. The Autobot subsequently caused the heat ray to explode. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

With his tenure as second-in-command over, Knock Out went back to his original post as medic. Following Starscream's... "treatment" at the hands of Megatron, Knock Out administered whatever passed for Decepticon medical care. He was surprised to see the patient up and about, thought Starscream claimed to be fine. Some time later, Starscream was back in the infirmary minus an arm, which he claimed had just fallen off. Knock Out tried to interest him in a new, upgraded limb, even going so far as to fetch one from storage, but Starscream announced he was going to get his old one back. He subsequently turned up back at the infirmary with even worse damage, but despite Knock Out's inquiries into what had happened, Starscream refused to talk about it. {{Storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

[[Image:TMI-KnockOutpainted.jpg|right|thumb|250px|You ruined my paint job, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJpsAe70uig DINKLEBERG!]!]]

Knock Out and Breakdown led a squadron of Vehicons to recover a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] that had been uncovered on Earth, ending up in a pitched battle against the Autobots. The cylinder somehow incapacitated Bulkhead, the closest defender, allowing Knock Out to scoop up the prize then GroundBridge back to the ''Nemesis''. Unfortunately for the pair, the "incapacitation" was the data within the cylinder being ''expelled'', leaving them with an empty prize and an unhappy Megatron. They quickly deduced that the information was within the Autobot's brain. Knock Out and Breakdown tracked Bulkhead to a monster truck arena, where [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko]] had taken him in the hopes of triggering increasingly lost memories from the Autobot. Bulkhead and the human fled, but Knock Out easily found them with an energy reader to pinpoint the Autobot. Amusement turned to horror when Bulkhead painted a Cybertronian mathematical symbol on Knockout, ruining his paint job. Bulkhead was quickly downed, and Knock Out prepared his buzzsaw to remove his head. Miko tried to take a swing at Knock Out and missed... instead slamming into Bulkhead bodily, which triggered the data's self-defense routines ''again'', and the data beamed from Bulkhead's eyes, rocketing into space. The two Decepticons fled empty-handed once the other Autobots arrived. {{storylink|T.M.I.}}

During their missions carrying energon around, Knock Out and Breakdown were under orders to lead the Autobots on a chase to burn through the Autobots' energon supplies. On one such mission, their Vehicon escort was attacked and wiped out by [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], whom Knock Out assumed was a ringer. Knock Out's inability to locate new energon deposits at a fast enough rate annoyed Megatron, who berated him. They were interrupted by Ratchet, who seemed to be amped up on something. After Megatron defeated Ratchet, he was left to Knock Out to extract a sample. The Decepticon medic did so, and prepared to finish off the Autobot, but was distracted at a vital moment, and during the ensuing fight, the sample was destroyed. Knock Out was able to later find a single drop of the substance that had given Ratchet a power boost. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

Knock Out continued humoring his leader's whims. He reported that the new space bridge was almost ready, they just needed an ample power source. Once the power source was secured, they headed for the construction site, but Megatron abruptly left after ordering them to complete the space bridge, leading Knock Out to wonder if their leader was losing it. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} He was nonetheless surprised when [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] decided Megatron wasn't coming back. He and Breakdown watched as Soundwave raised an objection and relieved Airachnid of command, and thus were there to welcome Megatron back when their leader indeed returned, though they were all surprised to see he'd brought Optimus Prime back with him. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

Knock Out affixed a new Decepticon insignia to the amnesiac Optimus, who believed himself to be Orion Pax. Knock Out and Breakdown went to a military base and managed to steal a power source for the space bridge, despite the Autobots turning up, though they did inadvertently let Arcee onto the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}}

Sent with Breakdown to investigate a hidden Cybertronian treasure, Knock Out emerged from a cave with the new device only to find Bumblebee and Bulkhead waiting. He sped away, amused by Bumblebee's attempts to follow him without transforming, and managed to elude his pursuer. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} After his success in retrieving the relic, Knock Out inquired to what it did, and Megatron demonstrated the shield generator's abilities, causing Knock Out to leak a little. He was sent with Breakdown to secure the next artifact, and used the generator to hold Optimus and Arcee at bay. This worked until Breakdown landed on him. After Megatron secured the [[Forge of Solus Prime]], Knock Out retreated through the GroundBridge and later watched Megatron unsuccessfully test it. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

Following the crash of the ''Nemesis'', Knock Out reported on the ship's status, and protested against Megatron's plan to bring it back online with Dark Energon. His fears quickly came true as the ''Nemesis'' gained a will of its own. Knock Out discovered it was decoding the data from the Iacon database, and suggested allowing it to continue before the ship put him in stasis lock. When [[William Fowler|Fowler]] and the kids arrived onboard to download the Iacon database, they used his body as a ladder to reach the console. After the ship's Dark Energon was purged, he came back online, discovering [[Jack Darby (Prime)|Jack]] on the console. Ratchet thumped him from behind before he could act, escaping with Jack and the Iacon relic locations. Megatron was furious at Knock Out's failure. {{storylink|Flying Mind}}

As part of the plan to send several teams to retrieve the artifacts simultaneously, Knock Out was assigned to find the [[New York City|Manhattan]] relic with some miners and an [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]] to back him up. After digging it up in the subway system, Knock Out's team was attacked by Arcee and Bumblebee, and with the Insecticon managed to bring them down. He intended to try out their new find on them, but was interrupted by a sweeper train hitting him. He attempted to escape with the relic, being chased down by Bumblebee and forced to fight. However Bumblebee unintentionally used the [[Phase shifter]] to avoid the incoming sweeper train, while Knock Out was scraped along the tunnel wall. Horrified that his paint was heavily ruined, and with the relic in Autobot hands, Knock Out retreated. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}} After returning empty-handed. Knock Out was tasked with examining [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] and found the grenade the Autobots had implanted in the drone. After diving for cover, Knock Out was forced to dispose of the grenade and Megatron ordered him to fix Soundwave's visor. {{storylink|Triage}}

When [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]] claimed that he'd offlined Bulkhead, Knock Out argued with him about the effectiveness of Insecticons. Knock Out had finally got a chance to buff his paintwork, lamenting on the difficulty of the task without Breakdown's help, when a fight broke out between the Insecticons and Vehicons, and he was damaged in the crossfire. He took his concerns to Megatron, demanding that the Insecticons be restrained in some way, though Hardshell objected to that idea. {{storylink|Hurt}}

Knock Out was surprised when Breakdown's signal abruptly reappeared, and even moreso when it turned out to be [[Silas|Breakdown with some additions]]. Cylas insisted on meeting with Megatron, though Knock Out was more keen to take him apart in retaliation for Breakdown's demise. He later got the chance when Cylas made the mistake of failing Megatron. {{storylink|The Human Factor}} Knock Out was on the ''Nemesis'' bridge when Optimus attacked the warship with the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink|Legacy}} After Megatron retrieved the arm of a Prime from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Knock Out grafted it onto his leader and later watched as Megatron forged the [[Dark Star Saber]] from a chunk of [[Dark Energon]]. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}}

[[Image:HardKnocksKnockOut.jpg|thumb|left|250px|I dare you.]]
Knock Out insisted on proving his worth and took the [[Resonance Blaster]] with him to retrieve one of the [[Omega Key]]s. Despite facing Arcee and Bumblebee, he succeeded and returned to the ''Nemesis'' with his prize. He was disappointed when he was stick analyzing the relic rather than going after the next key. {{storylink|Hard Knocks}}

[[Image:InsideJobKnockOut.jpg|thumb|250px|Part of the crew, part of the ship, part of the crew, part of the ship!]]
Once they had [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] captured, Knock Out claimed the phase shifter and used it to extract the final relic from inside the Autobot. After helping Megatron use a [[cortical psychic patch]] to learn the purpose of the [[Omega Key]]s, his leader ordered Knock Out to use the patch on Smokescreen himself to learn the location of the Autobot base. Unfortunately Smokescreen grabbed the shifter while it was still attached to his wrist and trapped him halfway through a bulkhead—a predicament that Megatron later didn't care to extract Knock Out from. {{storylink|Inside Job}} Megatron changed his mind when he needed Knock Out to perform a cortical psychic patch. As Megatron rummaged through Starscream's memories, Knock Out realized they were incriminating him as well as Starscream. He almost terminated the link, trapping Megatron in Starscream's head, but was stopped by Dreadwing. Megatron later reminded him that the Decepticons must act as one unit. {{storylink|Patch (episode)|Patch}}

After restoring Starscream's [[Transformation cog|T-Cog]], Knock Out had to leave the room in a hurry to avoid Dreadwing's rage. He returned to trying to discover how the Omega Keys worked, and succeeded with Starscream's help. He later helped Starscream kidnap the Autobots' human friends and transport them to Cybertron for use as hostages. {{storylink|Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration}} Knock Out handed over Miko in exchange for an Omega Key and took part in the activation of the [[Omega Lock]]. After the Lock's destruction at Optimus's hand, Knock Out tried to lift the mood with a quip, only to be knocked about by Starscream and told to tend to Megatron. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}}

Megatron sent Knock Out back to Cybertron with a team to search for relics near the Omega Lock. They turned up the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]] and also [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], who had tracked the recently energy surge. Knock Out took him back to Earth. {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} Knock Out seemed greatly amused by the picture of a dancing monkey Starscream found, and was present when Shockwave brought a cloned [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] through the space bridge. {{storylink|Scattered}} Starscream later explained to Knock Out why he thought the medic had the safer of their jobs. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}}
[[File:PepperSprayKnockOut--MO.JPG|250px|thumb|left|Yes, like pepper spray is in any way going to harm my ''mechanical''--Argh! My optics!]]
Sent to find a Predacon fossil at a museum, Knock Out discovered that Fowler and [[June Darby]] had gotten there first. Though he grabbed the two humans and the fossil, he was unable to contact the ship for a bridge back, so had to resort to driving around. When the two humans escaped into a rail yard, he played hide and seek with them, only for June to hide the fossil on a departing train. Grabbing the pair, he set off in pursuit, and as Arcee and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] joined the pursuit, he finally managed to raise the ''Nemesis''. Four Insecticons were dispatched to help, enabling Knock Out to ditch the two humans and grab the fossil. He returned triumphantly to the ''Nemesis'' to present the bone to Megatron. {{storylink|Plus One}}

Knock Out's experiments with Synthetic Energon, using Cylas as a test subject, were having limited success until Starscream suggested mixing in a few drops of Dark Energon. The new mix transformed Cylas into an energon-sucking zombie and created a plague which resulted in Knock Out and Starscream being chased through the ship. Confronted by Megatron, they were forced to admit what they had done, and were sent to locate and destroy Cylas. They eventually located him, but he had already been dispatched by the freed Airachnid. After the affair had been resolved, Megatron ordered Knock Out to turn all his experiments over to Shockwave. {{storylink|Thirst}}

Knock Out delivered the first of the Synthetic Energon to Shockwave's off-site laboratory, only to be shocked along with the other Decepticons when [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] revealed his robot mode. The Decepticons quickly realized that the Predacons wouldn't remain loyal for long, and embarked on a plan to destroy the maturing Predacon clones while blaming it on the Autobots. {{storylink|Evolution}}

Following Ratchet's capture, Knock Out found himself reduced to running errands and fetching equipment. While doing so, he made the critical mistake of letting it slip in front of Ratchet that the Decepticons felt threatened by Predaking's evolution and deliberately let the Autobots destroy the Predacon clones for them. The Autobot managed to dupe him, escaping under his watch. Things went from bad to worse when Predaking went on a rampage after learning of the Decepticons' treachery. Knock Out made the tactical decision to go get the Dark Star Saber for Megatron, but returned to find Predaking had already been dealt with. Of course, just then the Autobots attacked the ship. {{storylink|Synthesis}} While everyone fought the Autobots, Knock Out began packing for a quick escape. Unfortunately the fighting prevented him from getting off the ship, and when the Autobots took control and used the ship to restore Cybertron, he nonchalantly attempted to join them on the bridge, claiming he was "joining the winning team." Miko punched him out for his trouble. {{storylink|Deadlock}}

{{Spoiler|Predacons Rising (Prime)|November 4, 2013}}
Knock Out instead ended up locked up in a cell with the Vehicons. He attempted to negotiate for release by telling Bumblebee that the Autobots could find a map to Shockwave's labs in [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]]. He was still in his cell when Starscream arrived to spring everyone and try to take back the ship. During the revolt, he reclaimed the phase shifter from Smokescreen, however once they reached the bridge, he turned on Starscream, using the phase shifter to grab the immobilizer and knock out his former comrade with it. Unfortunately this meant he was part of the last line of defense against Unicron reaching the Well of All Sparks, and he began to think Starscream's plan to flee might have been the right idea. Luckily fleeing turned out to be unnecessary, as Optimus arrived back in time to defeat Unicron, and Knock Out was present as Optimus sacrificed himself to restore the [[AllSpark]] to Cybertron. {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Prime)|Predacons Rising}}

===Toy bios===

Knock Out is the Decepticon's weapon designer, who has spent so long in the murky, underground weapons dealing world that he prefers to ''literally'' be underground. {{storylink|Knock_Out_(Prime)#Cyberverse|Energon Driller with Knock Out}} You'll note we didn't say "top weapon designer". That's because ''everyone'' knows that his weapons are dangerous, often malfunction, and his installation methods will mess you up; however, Knock Out's such an awesome salesman that the Decepticons use them anyway! {{storylink|Knock_Out_(Prime)#Prime|Deluxe Knock Out}} If a weapon does work properly, Knock Out keeps it for himself. {{storylink|Knock_Out_(Prime)#Cyberverse|Cyberverse Knock Out}}

The exception was [[Dark Energon]]: it may have been dangerous and untested, but the power was too great for Knock Out to pass up! Now he's supercharged and out to tear into the Autobots! {{storylink|Knock_Out_(Prime)#Prime|Dark Energon Knock Out}} Knock Out also planted the Dark Energon-infected [[Arms Micron]] [[Zori]] at an excavation site as a trap for any inquisitive Autobots, which resulted in [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] being turned into a rampaging, rage-fueled monster! {{storylink|Bumblebee (WFC)#Terrorcon|''Arms Micron'' Terrorcon Bumblebee's packaging bio}}

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Knock Out on The Mind Trap!.jpg|right|250px|thumb|He lets his hand do the talking.]]
Knock Out developed a [[neuron refractor]] and took it to [[Zhejiang Province]], [[China]], where he laid a trap in a scrap-metal facility. When [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] investigated [[energon]] readings there, Knock Out zapped his mind into the body of a [[Lin-Che|human worker]], and instructed the [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] he'd brought to feed Optimus's old body into a crusher. Unfortunately Optimus and Lin-Che managed to reverse the effects of the refractor, and Optimus gave Knock Out a punch on the jaw that send him running. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.8|The Mind Trap!}}

Aiming to secure Optimus Prime's head, Knock Out and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]] attacked a TV studio and took the crew and audience of ''[[Down and Out]]'' prisoner. Once they had lured Optimus and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] there, the two Decepticons forced them to run the game show course, which had of course been modified to be deadly. When Optimus actually succeeded in rescuing the hostages, Knock Out revealed that he'd rigged the place to blow, but unfortunately for him, [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] had secretly tagged along and blew the floor out from under him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.14|It's a Knock-Out}}
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===''Tales of the Beast Hunters''===
With the Decepticons in chaos following the disappearance of Megatron and the rebellion of the Predacons, Knock Out decided to flee Earth. He soon discovered Shockwave had the same idea, and helped his fellow Decepticon pack up the laboratory, though he wasn't happy about sharing their ride to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with two dormant Predacons in [[Hyperevolution Chamber]]s. {{storylink|Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 20}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Prime - The Game''===
[[Image:TransformersPrimeTheGame Knock Out.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Why doesn't anyone ever want to play frisbee?"]]
{{voiceactor|[[Daran Norris]] (English)}}

As Bumblebee and Raf attempt to escape an energon mine, Knock Out arrived to stop them. The Decepticon medic failed to defeat Bumblebee, but he did keep him distracted long enough for the Autobot's human friend to be kidnapped.

Back at the ''Nemesis'', Megatron had Knock Out evaluate the status of a recovered Cybertronian colossus named [[Thunderwing (Prime)|Thunderwing]]. Knock Out employed his medical training to determine the problem: Thunderwing was suffering from a condition known as "missing pieces".

When the Autobots attempted to infiltrate the ''Nemesis'' and recover their kidnapped friends, Knock Out and Bumblebee raced into combat with each other again. Though he used [[Synthetic Energon]] to enhance his attacks drastically over their prior fight, Bumblebee was still able to hold his own. The fight continued until Knock Out's paint job was severely compromised. Enraged, he rushed at Bumblebee only for the Autobot hero to sidestep, sending Knock Out off the edge of the ship and out of the fight. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime - The Game}}

{{note|Knock Out is a playable character in the game's multiplayer battle modes, but only after he has been defeated on the ''Nemesis'' bridge in Story Mode.}}
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==Toys==
===Cyberverse===
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[[Image:Primetoy-KnockOutCyberverse.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Mercurymon went to some extreme lengths to get himself into a show better than ''Digimon Frontier''.]]
*'''Energon Driller with Knock Out''' (Cyberverse Vehicle, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 002'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''[[July 28|7-28]]-2012'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''EZ-15'''
**''Accessories'': Buzzsaw, battle spear, [[Energon Driller]] vehicle
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' [[Cyberverse#Series 2|Series 2 Cyberverse]] Vehicles, Legion Class Knock Out is a smaller-scaled version of the character, transforming simply from robot to sports car. He comes with two translucent weapons, a buzzsaw and his battle spear, which can be held by his hands via [[C joint|3mm post]], or peg into various ports on his body in either mode.

:Knock Out is packaged with the [[Energon Driller]], a vehicle with two modes. There are various places on it in either mode for Knock Out to man stations, plus an "Energon booster" can unwind from the center of the vehicle to plug into his weaponry and activate electronic light-piping.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/LegKnockOut/knockout.htm More information on Cyberverse Knock Out (with Energon Driller) at TFU.info]''

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[[File:PrimeCyberverse-KnockOutSingle.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Knock Out''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 015'''
**''Accessories'': Shockblade

: Part of the fourth wave of ''Prime'' Cyberverse Legion Class toys, this [[redeco]] of Cyberverse Knock Out has a much more orangey-red coloration. Instead of his own weapons, he comes with a "Shockblade", a purple-ish/blue blade weapon. It features four 3mm posts, and was originally available (in its original colors) with [[Ratchet (WFC)#Cyberverse|Ratchet]], [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Cyberverse|Cliffjumper]], and ''Dark of the Moon'' [[Mirage (Movie)#Cyberverse|Mirage]], while a recolored version was used by [[Bumblebee (WFC)#Cyberverse|Quick Blade Bumblebee]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/LegKnockOut2/knockout.htm More information on single-pack Cyberverse Knock Out at TFU.info]''
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===Prime===
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[[Image:PrimeRID-KnockOutdeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Don't tell him about his paint job.]]
[[Image:Prime-toy KnockOutTakTom.jpg|right|thumb|300px|...or lack thereof.]]
*'''Knock Out''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''1 / 007'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''[[June 30|6-30]]-2012'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''AM-13'''
**''Accessories'': Battle spear/twin battle spikes (Hasbro only), "Gra" Arms Micron (TakaraTomy only)

: Part of the third wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Knock Out transforms from a sports car into a robot and back! He comes with a [[5mm post|5mm]]-compatible spear that can split at the center to form two wield-able "battle spikes", and the spear can be stored on two 5mm ports on his his back in robot mode, or mount onto the peg-holes on his rear vehicle sides.

: His [[stock photography]] depicts several [[paint operation]]s that were omitted in the final product. Also, in an inverse of nearly every set of Transformers [[instructions]] out there, Knock Out's stock photo is correctly transformed, while the robot mode depicted in the instructions proper is rather hideously mis-transformed, with his shoulder fenders oddly folded down to form an extra large chest and his arms left unfolded, yielding strangely long arms with two elbows.

: In wave six of the ''Prime'' toyline, Knock Out was put into new packaging, which came with a DVD featuring the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' episode "[[Loose Cannons]]".

: The [[TakaraTomy]] version, dubbed "'''Medic Knock Out'''" and released in the third wave of the Japanese ''Prime'' line, loses most of the Hasbro version's [[paint operation]]s in favor of customer-applied foil [[sticker]]s... which make his car-mode "fade" deco especially tragic. He also has several new [[Arms Micron]] 5mm ports epoxied to him; a hood/chest-mounted engine and one on each door/arm. Lacking the [[Hasbro]] version's two-part spear, he instead comes with [[Gra]], a robotic fiddler crab who becomes his spear/prod weapon.

: The TakaraTomy version of the mold was also used to make [[Smokescreen (Prime)#Toys|Smokescreen]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/KnockOut/knockout.htm More information on Knock Out at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1591.html Arms Micron Knock Out and Gra at Alfes's blog]''

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[[Image:PrimeRCtoy-Knock Out.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm gorgeous!]]
*'''Remote Controlled Knock Out''' (2012)
**''Accessories'': Remote control

: An electronic Knock Out, operable by remote control. As well as driving around, the remote control allows you to convert Knock Out from car to robot and trigger his punching action.

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[[Image:PrimeDEtoy-KnockOut.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Can now absorb power from glow-sticks.]]
*'''Knock Out''' (Dark Energon Series Deluxe, 2012)
**''Number'': '''004'''
**''Accessories'': Battle spear/twin battle spikes

: ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Dark Energon Series|Prime: Dark Energon]]'' Knock Out is a [[BigBadToyStore]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of Deluxe Class Knockout, being cast in transparent bright green and purple plastics. His stock photography depicts the tip of his spear as painted purple, when the final product leaves it unpainted.

: Though he was packaged on an individual card, he was initially sold as part of a set with the Dark Energon versions of [[Bumblebee (WFC)#DarkEnergon|Bumblebee]], [[Wheeljack (Prime)#DarkEnergon|Wheeljack]], and [[Starscream (WFC)#DarkEnergon|Starscream]]. He was eventually made available on his own, and the Dark Energon Series toys were eventually made available in Singapore as mass-retail releases.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/DEKnockOut/knockout.htm More information on Dark Energon Knock Out at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Hunters===
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[[Image:PrimeBHtoy-Deluxe-Knockout.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Fabulous secret powers were revealed to him.]]
*'''Knock Out''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''2 / 013'''
**''Accessories'': Crocto Claw

: Part of the fourth wave of ''Prime: [[Beast Hunters]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Knock Out is a redeco and extensive [[retool]] of ''Prime: Robots in Disguise'' Knock Out, transforming into a heavily-modified sports car with a reptilian theme and a toothy grille "mouth". The 5mm ports on his rear sides have been removed, while another port was added to the roof. He comes with the "[[Crocto Claw]]", a split-jawed robotic crocodile head with a spring-loaded jaw. It can mount/be held via its two 5mm posts, be used as a flail, or it can attach to the rear of the car as a "tail".

:His instructions still depict his completed robot mode with the mis-transformed arms. His instructions also include the [[Tales of the Beast Hunters Chapter 20|twentieth chapter]] of the ''[[Tales of the Beast Hunters]]'' series.
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==Merchandise==
===McDonald's===
[[Image:Primetoy-KnockOutHappyMeal.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Where's your famous horsepower? Show me some speed!]]
*'''Knock Out''' (Happy Meal, 2012)
:*''McNumber:'' '''8'''
:Happy Meal Knock Out is a nontransformable sports car! When you press in his grill, double cannons pop out of his hood.

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==Notes==
* Promotional blurbs for the episode ''[[Deus ex Machina]]'' mentioned that [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] would be in the episode. Given that Breakdown acts as a rival for Bulkhead in the finished episode — which [[Lugnut (Animated)|''Animated'' Lugnut]] was played up as for [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] in the original ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Cartoon Network]] promotional material — the fandom concluded that Breakdown was meant to be Lugnut at some point in the episode's production. The Hub's [[Mike Vogel]] challenged this notion at [[BotCon 2011]], claiming that Lugnut had been ''Knock Out's'' original name, which had been changed because "Lugnut" wasn't "sexy" enough for the character. The ''Prime'' Season 1 Blu-Ray commentary, however, proved Vogel incorrect and corroborated the original theory: Breakdown's place in the show was originally intended to belong to Lugnut, since a fiercely loyal Decepticon bruiser was desired, but the show creators wanted a land-based Decepticon instead.
*Knock Out's [[license plate]] reads "JOFY 892". Any significance to these characters is unknown.
* Some fans have interpreted Starscream's "you're one of ''those"'' line (referring to his car-mode preference), Knock Out's wolf-whistling appraisal of Optimus's truck mode, the vanity about his appearance, and voice actor [[Daran Norris]]' somewhat campy performance to be clues that Knock Out is [[Transformer romance|gay]]. Moreover, the term "knockout" is commonly used to describe an attractive ''woman''. Make of all this what you will, as very little [[Humanization#Sexuality|robotic sexuality]] of any kind has been evident in ''Prime'' so far, outside of a lightly-implied connection between [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] and Arcee.
** When asked at [[BotCon 2011]], the ''Prime'' writers said that there ''is'' no designation for gay, or straight, for that matter, on Cybertron, where Transformers are created by the AllSpark, not through sexual reproductions. They also said that Knock Out is a knock out, and that the ''Nemesis'' is a very "don't ask, don't tell" place. And then they jokingly deflected the matter, claiming that Knock Out's mannerisms are not caused by any particular orientation, but are simply eccentricities caused by "a glitch in the AllSpark" the day he was created... which is unintentionally so insulting to homosexuals that it could create an awkward silence in the [[Void]].
* Knock Out is the first ''Prime'' Decepticon to debut after the pilot miniseries and survive the experience. Breakdown might be considered to share that distinction, but technically he debuted ''before'' the cartoon, as he appeared in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|''War for Cybertron'' video games]] and the [[Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|''Prime'' comic]] first.
* For the live script reading of "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]" at BotCon 2011, Darran Norris was unavailable, so his lines went to [[Ernie Hudson]]. Hearing Ernie, who is quite the buff, deep-voiced dude, attempt Knock Out's particular mannerisms was... interesting.
* Knock Out is, in the Japanese dub of the cartoon, the only character (so far) aware of the existence of the [[Arms Micron]]s. He lets this knowledge slip in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]", where he offers to replace [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]'s missing arm with an Arms Micron. Starscream abruptly cuts him off before he can offer a full explanation as to just what an Arms Micron is, demanding his old arm instead.
* Knock Out, like Starscream and [[Raf]], enjoys tap-dancing monkeys.
* Knock Out seems very fond of human culture while disliking humans themselves.
* Knock Out is the first Decepticon to officially change sides to the Autobots in the ''Prime'' cartoon.
* Knock Out doesn't seem to have an insignia.

===Arms Up Modes===
In the Japanese ''Prime'' toyline, Knock Out has named powered-up modes when given various [[Arms Micron]]s in certain configurations:

*'''Medic Mode''' (メディックモード ''Medikku Mōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Gra, Gul, Jida, Zori
: Knock Out's box-back "Arms Up" mode has him using the [[Break Scythe]] while wearing [[Jida]] on his back. Pretty simple.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Medic Knock Out''' (メディックノックアウト ''Medikku Nokku Auto'')

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Predacons Rising (Prime)

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|image=PredaconsRisingCover.jpg
|caption="Today we face the monsters that are at our door, today we are cancelling the apocalypse!"
|title=''Predacons Rising
|airdate=[[October 4]] (TV premiere) and [[October 8]] (home video release), [[2013]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]] [[Marsha Griffin]] [[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]] [[Scooter Tidwell]] [[Todd Waterman]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
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'''Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons form an unlikely alliance to battle a resurrected Unicron.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has been restored, and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] gives a speech honoring those not still with them who helped make it possible. However even as he does so, back on [[Earth]] at the bottom of the ocean, [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] is awoken by [[Unicron]]. Megatron is confused as to why his [[spark]] not one with the [[AllSpark]], but Unicron explains that Megatron's [[Dark Energon]] use has made that impossible. Requiring a new vessel with which to carry out his plans, Unicron reformats Megatron's body into a more powerful form, takes possession of it and heads into the sky. Meanwhile, Optimus holds a short ceremony to promote [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] to warrior, before announcing that he and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] are going to go and retrieve the physical AllSpark from where it was hidden during the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]].

Streaking through space, Megatron believes Unicron intends to become ruler of Cybertron, but Unicron reveals that he instead intends to destroy Primus, which will spell the end for that planet, and soon all of the universe.

As [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] finds construction with [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] a troublesome task, [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] reports they've had no luck finding [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], incarcerated on the [[Trypticon (WFC)|warship]], attempts to persuade the Bumblebee he's on their side by providing him with information on where they might locate the fugitive Decepticons. [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] patrol the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]], now restored to a city, and run into an unpleasant surprise—the [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]] [[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] and [[Skylynx]]. The two Autobots are no match for the new clones, and Magnus is severely injured before Smokescreen manages to use the [[phase shifter]] to make their escape. [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] is called to Cybertron to tend to Magnus, while the other Autobots try to decide on their next step.

[[File:PredaconsRisingSkylynxandDarksteelDragons.jpg|left|thumb|300px|So, uh, when do we start rising?]]

Across space, Optimus and Wheeljack track the AllSpark to [[Theta Scorpii]]. Not wanting to risk losing [[Ultra Magnus's ship]] in the hazardous conditions there, Optimus continues on alone.

Utilizing Bumblebee's tracking skills, the Autobots find [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], who has located a Predacon burial ground uncovered by the restoration of Cybertron. Bumblebee attempts to persuade Predaking that there can be a truce, but Predaking refuses to forget the Autobots' role in the destruction of his brethren. The Autobots instead head for Megatron's old fortress of [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], which Knock Out has informed them may contain a map showing the location of Shockwave's laboratories.

Shockwave's current lab is in the ruins of [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]]. Starscream arrives with another recovered Predacon bone, shortly before Darksteel and Skylynx return, laughing about their recent scrap. Starscream is furious to learn they've wandered off and revealed themselves to the Autobots, ruining their one major advantage, the element of surprise.

Over at Theta Scorpii, Optimus finally sights the AllSpark's container, but there's also an incoming [[plasma storm]], and he has to rush to retrieve their target before it can close in.

As the Autobots are checking out the Darkmount computer, they're interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, who makes it aggressively clear to both Autobot and Megatron alike who's in control of the Decepticon leader's form. The Autobots are no match for the dark god, so they attempt to scram. They're brought to a halt by a [[Smelting pool|smelting pit]], and a blast from Unicron leaves Bulkhead, Arcee and Smokescreen dangling over certain doom. Bumblebee manages to keep Unicron occupied long enough for Ratchet to provide a means of escape via [[GroundBridge]].

Meanwhile, Optimus has retrieved the AllSpark and made it back to the ship mere seconds before the plasma storm, and the Autobots book it out of there, though an asteroid thrown by the chaos collides with the ship. Back on the warship, Bumblebee attempts to contact Optimus, but the damage Magnus's ship sustained means though his message gets through, Optimus can't respond. The Autobots quickly realize that Unicron's plan is to destroy their home planet.

Acting on information from Bumblebee, Predaking finds evidence of Darksteel and Skylynx. He creates a signal in the form of a column of fire to try and attract the pair to his position, however the first to respond to it is Unicron. Megatron tricks Unicron into fighting the Predacon in the hopes if their shared body is mangled enough, it will be of no further use to Unicron and Megatron will be freed, however Unicron manages to defeat Predaking and, probing the Predacon's mind, learns of the burial ground.

The burial ground has also been found by Starscream, Darksteel and Skylynx, who summon Shockwave to help in gathering up the bones. Their task is interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, and Starscream is overjoyed to see whom he assumes is Megatron, however Unicron corrects him and bats him aside. Darksteel and Skylynx attack, but have no more luck against Unicron than anyone else has had. Opposition defeated, Unicron uses his power to raise the Predacon bones as an army of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]]. Starscream flees, while Shockwave is quickly dogpiled by the horde.

The Autobots, using the warship's computer to try and locate Unicron, detect the huge build up of Dark Energon at the burial ground and quickly realize what Unicron intends. As the horde starts moving across [[Hydrax Plateau]] towards the [[Well of All Sparks]], the Autobots prepare to use the warship to defend the location. Ratchet and Ultra Magnus are dropped off at a safe location and Smokescreen goes to retrieve the remaining relics from storage. Starscream arrives on the ship and frees the imprisoned Deceptions. They attempt to retake the ship, however Knock Out turns against Starscream, using the phase shifter to seize the [[Immobilizer]] and clock him with it... which also destroys the Immobilizer. Ooops.

Predaking arrives back at the burial ground and is horrified to see it has been desecrated. He asserts his dominance over Skylynx and Darksteel by fighting them, however Shockwave pops up to suggest they go put their combat skills to more productive use against Unicron's horde.

[[File:Predaconsrising-chaosandcreation.jpg|thumb|left|300px|"So you came to die with your planet!" "No, [[Batman|I'm]] here to stop you."]]
The Autobots make their last stand in the warship, opening fire on the oncoming Terrorcons. While the horde flies up to attack the ship, the Predacon trio arrive to lend a hand. Unfortunately the warship is shot down a short time later by concentrated Terrorcon fire blasts, and the Autobots emerge, but Predaking tells them to leave the fighting to the beasts. The Predacons are only able to slow the horde's advance though, and the Terrorcons start heading into the Well of All Sparks. Unicron himself feels the presence of the AllSpark as Magnus's ship arrives back on Cybertron. Optimus jumps out to attack Unicron, who shoots down the ship down before Optimus can engage him. Even Optimus has trouble fighting Unicron, and he's only saved when Bumblebee uses the [[polarity gauntlet]] to halt Unicron's blow. Optimus flies to where Bulkhead and Arcee are helping Wheeljack out of the wreck of Magnus's ship, intending to secure the AllSpark. Unicron breaks free of the polarity gauntlet's grasp and catches up with Optimus, who is now fleeing with the AllSpark, shooting the Autobot leader down. Unicron opens the AllSpark container intending to devour the contents, only to find it is empty. Unicron's anti-spark is drawn out of Megatron by the vessel, which pulls it into itself and seals, trapping it there. The link to Unicron severed, Terrorcon army disintegrates just before it can reach the core.

[[File:PredaconsRisingWellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|right|300px|AllSpark: Taste the Rainbow.]]
Starscream lands, having escaped his cell during the crash, and welcomes Megatron back from the dead, believing Megatron will once again lead the Decepticons. Having been put through the torments of Unicron, Megatron is broken, and no longer wishes to be an oppressor. Over Starscream's objections, he declares the Decepticons no more, and flies away, destination unknown. Starscream also flees, going instead to Darkmount where he intended to take his place as Decepticon leader. His reign is short-lived, as the Predacons arrive looking to settle some old scores with him.

At the Well of All Sparks, Optimus revealed that in order to set the trap for Unicron, he was forced to empty the AllSpark into the [[Matrix of Leadership]] inside him. This unfortunately means that his own spark is one with the multitude of others now inside the Matrix, and the only way the AllSpark can be restored to the Well is by merging it with the planet's core , which means giving up his own life. Despite protestations, Optimus assures them there is no other way, and that the age of Primes is over... and that new leaders will arise not by decree of ancient talismans, but by the virtue of their actions. Optimus flies into the Well, sacrificing himself, which releases a multitude of sparks into the sky.

[['Til all are one]].

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (2)
*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] (3)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (4)
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] (5)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (6)
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (7)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (11)
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (14)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (8)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (10)
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (16)
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] (17)

|h4=[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]
|c4=
*[[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] (12)
*[[Skylynx]] (13)
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (15)

|h5=Others
|c5=
*[[Unicron]] (9)
*[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]] Predacons (18)
}}

==Quotes==
"Optimus Prime would deem it a tragedy to stain Cybertron's fresh soil with any newly-spilled energon. So help us prove what Megatron was never willing to, that more than one race can peacefully co-exist on our planet." 
"You assume that because I turned against Megatron, I can forgive the Autobots their role in the destruction of my brethren on Earth? Leave me be and dare not trespass here again."
:—'''Bumblebee''' tries to appeal to '''Predaking'''....and fails.

"What are we supposed to call him, huh? Megacron? Unitron?" 
"'''Really??'''"
:—'''Smokescreen''' and '''Arcee''' debating over what to call a Unicron-possessed Megatron, ignoring the most [[Galvatron|obvious]].

"It isn't fair. How many more times do we have to save a world? Have to fight for the survival of our home?" 
"Regrettably the struggle between creation and destruction is an eternal one, and the battle lines which separate the two run through the very spark of Cybertron. Good and evil; order and chaos; one victorious, one vanquished. Each forming the core of their own separate worlds, Cybertron and Earth. And now the darkness has followed us all the way home."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Ratchet''' lament the latest developments.

"In the name of the mighty legions of Predacons who preceded me, I shall never again yield to your charge, but I will heed your previous advice and face my true enemy as a beast!"
:—'''Predaking''' to '''Unicron'''/'''Megatron'''.

"I say we show 'Lord of the Undead' what it's like to be unliving."
"Rip him to shreds."
:—'''Skylynx''' gets a big boost of confidence and '''Darksteel''' gets a boost of volatility.

"My legion! Arise and destroy this world, with your dragon fire!"
:-'''Unicron''' raising the Terrorcon Predacon army.

"Terrorcons, created from Predacons?" 
"It defies all science..." 
"We're doomed."
:-'''Starscream''' knows the power of Unicron's new pets and flees as always, while '''Shockwave''' is baffled by Unicron's powers.

"'Bee, in case I'd never get another chance to say this, you've really proved your mettle." 
"I'd like to think my actions always spoke louder than my words, Arcee, but it didn't hurt to watch and learn from the best." 
"''Would'' be nice if Optimus showed up about now." 
"I was referring to a powerful little two-wheeler I know."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Bumblebee''' talking about taking it to the next level

"The past shall consume the future, the dead shall consume the living, and chaos shall reign supreme!"
:—'''Unicron''' being a badass, riding a Terrorcon into battle.

"And who made you boss?" 
"I... am not your boss. I am your ''KING''!"
:—'''Darksteel''' expresses his usual defiance, before receiving a verbal smackdown from '''Predaking'''.

"Knock Out! We needed that!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' channels Ratchet while telling off his new ally.

"Why'd you do it, Knock Out? Why'd you turn against Starscream?" 
"Even if I had helped him seize this ship, he would probably just fire me out of the first airlock. Oh. And he's ''rude''."
:—'''Knock Out''' explains his actions to '''Arcee'''.

"Really? This is how it ends."
:-'''Bulkhead''' after the Terrorcons defeat the Predacons and dive into the well.

"I shall devour your AllSpark, whole!"
:-'''Unicron''' before realizing too late that Optimus tricked him.

"''Enough!'' The Decepticons are no more, and that is final."
:—'''Megatron''' delivers the wham line to Starscream.

'''Starscream:''' This is not quite how I envisioned my rise to the throne, but since Megatron all but surrendered it to me, I will gladly revive the Decepticons in my name. 
[Starscream screams upon the Predacons' arrival] 
'''Starscream:''' Though, perhaps, the throne is more befitting of an actual king? 
'''Predaking:''' I am not here to seize thrones, Starscream. But to settle scores.
:—And the second reign of '''Starscream''' is shorter than [[Double Jeopardy|Terrorsaur's]].

"While this may very well mark the end of the Age of Primes, leadership can be earned, with or without the Matrix. And in my view, you have ''each'' acted as a Prime." 
"Well I... never really had the best role models." 
:—'''Optimus''' passes leadership on to all the members of Team Prime, while '''Knock Out''' is actually humble for once.

"Above all, do not lament my absence, for in my spark, I know that this is not the end, but merely a new beginning. Simply put, another transformation."
:—'''Optimus Prime's''' closing words of the film and the whole series.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
*The pile of pipes that a crane picks up at Bulkhead's construction site doesn't behave like a pile of loose pipes, but as though they'd been welded together in the shape of a pile. In real life, the pipes are first tied together then lifted by a strap or other indirect method.
*Predaking often misses his wings when transforming into beast mode, for instance during the fight with Unicron/Megatron, Darksteel and Skylynx, and the fight against the Terrorcon Predacons. At the end of the last fight they just suddenly reappear when it ends at the Well of All Sparks.

===Continuity errors===
*Shockwave's survival is questionable, at best. Once the Terrorcon Predacon army is raised from the dead, they pile on Shockwave, who is currently in vehicle mode. When he shows up to convince the living Predacons to do something useful, he's now in robot mode with minimal visible damage; the worst is a missing "wing" and his cracked optic. Furthermore, he just vanishes from the plot after that. Did the Terrorcons decide he didn't taste good? Or was this a last-minute [[Hasbro]] edict to save him for later use?
*Speaking of Shockwave, why did he decide to fight those Terrorcons? Surely it would've been logical to run as Starscream did? Although the Terrorcons have displayed impressive speed, it would still be wise to retreat, as Shockwave isn't that much of a slowpoke, either.
*Nothing ever comes of the third Predacon clone Shockwave was in the process of growing, though it may not have finished growing.
*Come to think of it, if Predacon bones were on Cybertron, why weren't they turned into Terrorcons back in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 5|Darkness Rising]]"? Either this was a necessary plot hole, or the Predacon burial ground was embedded deep enough that the Dark Energon didn't seep that far.
*Darkmount's throne is undamaged when Starscream tries to claim it, even though Unicron shot it multiple times and pitched a spear through it.
*The manacles that Knock Out and the Vehicons are wearing in their first appearance are gone when Starscream shows up to break them out.
*Ratchet's medical scan of Ultra Magnus shows two intact hands, when he clearly still has the claw Ratchet fashioned for him.
*Unicron orders his Predacon zombies to use their "dragon fire" against Primus. As shown in "[[Prey (episode)|Prey]]", the word "dragon" is unknown to Bulkhead and Wheeljack, and it's rather unlikely Unicron would be more familiar with human mythology than the Autobots.

===Continuity notes===
*Bumblebee is promoted to Warrior-class after first mentioning it as his goal in "[[Masters & Students]]", and later admitting he was holding back to be promoted on Cybertron in "[[Project Predacon]]".
*Bulkhead goes back to construction as Ratchet suggested in "[[Alpha/Omega]]".
*A handful of Vehicons are seen helping repair buildings on Cybertron with the Autobots, though it's not made clear if this is forced labor or they just decided to switch sides. Other Vehicons are seen imprisoned with Knock Out, further muddling the issue.
*The AllSpark was introduced to the [[Aligned continuity family]] in the novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'', where it was launched from Cybertron during the war. The novel concluded with the Autobots' picking up its signal after departing Cybertron—an obvious allusion to a [[live-action film series|live-action movie]]-style journey to [[Earth]] in search of it—but this was dropped for the sequel ''[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]'', and nobody but Optimus seems to remember much about the whole affair here (likely as a means to better explain it to the audiences who didn't read the novels).
*Knock Out was locked up after being decked by [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko]] in "[[Deadlock]]".
*Knock Out gets payback on Smokescreen by sticking him in a wall with the Phase Shifter in an identical position to his own wall-imprisonment in "[[Inside Job]]".
*Knock Out destroys the [[Immobilizer]], which was introduced in "[[Partners]]", by knocking Starscream out with it.
*Smokescreen mentions that he almost became a Prime, which occurred in "[[Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion]]".
*Predaking [[Minus One|takes Megatron's advice]] and faces his true enemy [[Synthesis|as a beast]]!
*When the Predecon zombies attack the ship, Knock Out freaks out, calling them "zombiecons". This term was first used by Miko in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]".

===Transformers references===
*Megatron's resurrection and subsequent travel into space recalls a similar scene from ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)| Revenge of the Fallen]]''.
*Lord Smokescreen, [[Emperor of Destruction]]!
*Unicron calls his new form an [[Instruments of Destruction|Instrument of Destruction]].
*Optimus brings new life to Cybertron by jumping into a pit that leads to the core of the planet and committing suicide. Why does that sound [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|familiar]]?
*The third Predacon clone being grown in Shockwave's lab heavily resembles [[Ripclaw (Prime)|Ripclaw]], albeit with a few minor changes.

===Real-world references===
*The laying of a sword on the shoulders as Optimus does with Bumblebee during the warrior ceremony is from the investiture ceremony used when someone is knighted.

===Trivia===
*Oddly, TVGuide's listing for this movie is split into [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-14-season-3/chaos-rising-part-1/308171 three] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-15-season-3/chaos-rising-part-2/308171 part] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-16-season-3/chaos-rising-part-3/308171 episodes] incorrectly (yet still more appropriately) titled "Chaos Rising".
*''Predacons Rising'' is a [[The Hub|Hub]] Original Family Movie, concluding the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' cartoon.
*The [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] is used by Optimus to promote Bumblebee, and is never seen again in the rest of the movie. It's never mentioned as being aboard the ''Nemesis'' like the other Iacon relics are, so Optimus must still have it. But if so, why didn't he use it against Unicron?
*The film was leaked on YouTube a few weeks before its airdate.

===Foreign localization===

{{DEFAULTSORT:Predacons Rising}}
[[Category:Prime]]

Talk:Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T06:13:06Z

SoundWave:

Why did my "real life reference" get deleted? The phrase "awkward..." is used in other pop-culture movies! I believe it was first said in the movie Hoodwinked. (Not the word itself, but using it as a funny phrase by itself.) People walk around saying it all the time. Enough I think to include it. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 00:16, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
: *facepalm* It's a friggin real word that is used often enough in modern day events. IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE REAL WORD REFERENCES. And as a matter of fact, awkward wasn't first used in Hoodwinked. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 00:24, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: I'm not talking about the word itself, I'm talking about the way people say it in that funny voice. I know the word has been used many times before, but some movie or something in the last few years had obviously made it into a popular thing to say when something awkward or embarrassing happens. (Like if someone falls over, someone else says "awk-ward...", and everyone laughs because they just said a pop culture "meme".) If an episode of Transformers said "Live long and prosper" I'm sure we would reference that even though those are all existing words. This seems like a popular enough catch phrase to reference. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 00:39, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:::No, live long and prosper is a specific enough reference. Saying it like that is not a specifc pop culture reference. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 00:43, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:::: Read the 5th and 7th description on this article: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=awkward
And read this yahoo answers that was posted 2 years ago: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111226105333AAhwFAq
and how about this: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/833855.html
No one seems to be able to figure out where it started, but it's obviously a very "pop culture" phrase. i just gave you 3 pices of evidence that its not just me. The show's writers probably put that in there because it is a popular phrase.
:1. Sign your posts.
:2. It's a popular phrase. IT'S NOT A REFERENCE.
:3. Please refrain from putting it in the RWR section again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 01:00, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
::1. I signed my posts all times except the last time. (I forgot.)
::2. Leave it in there if you want, I only thought it would make the article better, and more entertaining. (After all Transformers is supposed to be FUN!)
::3. I only put it in the RWR section once. (Quit acting like I vandalized the entire article.)
::(Ps, I request this wiki makes a "courtesy" article.) - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 01:11, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:::It doesn't make the article better. It doesn't make it more fun. And we aren't making a courtesy article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 01:14, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
: I didn't mean the "courtesy article" joke literally, if you had explained nicely or neutrally like Sabrblade did, your reason might have made more sense. I'm getting tired of you being rude to me for some reason everytime I edit something on this wiki, you dont own it so quit acting like it. Maybe you could take into consideration what other users want, or nicely explain why thier wrong. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 02:13, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

The fact that the word is "used in many other pop-culture movies and shows in this context" (as you wrote) is what makes it not a reference. A reference pertains to something specific. But since you yourself noted how ubiquitous the phrase is, it can't refer to any one thing in particular, thus negating it being a reference to anything. A reference to nothing is not a reference. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:18, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:Well, okay, thanks for at least answering something that made sense. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 02:13, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T05:11:56Z

SoundWave:

Talk:Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T04:56:45Z

SoundWave:

Talk:Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T04:39:57Z

SoundWave:

Why did my "real life reference" get deleted? The phrase "awkward..." is used in other pop-culture movies! I believe it was first used in the movie Hoodwinked. (Not the word itself, but using it as a funny phrase by itself.) People walk around saying it all the time. Enough I think to include it. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 00:16, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
: *facepalm* It's a friggin real word that is used often enough in modern day events. IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE REAL WORD REFERENCES. And as a matter of fact, awkward wasn't first used in Hoodwinked. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 00:24, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: I'm not talking about the word itself, I'm talking about the way people say it in that funny voice. I know the word has been used many times before, but some movie or something in the last few years had obviously made it into a popular thing to say when something awkward or embarrassing happens. (Like if someone falls over, someone else says "awk-ward...", and everyone laughs because they just said a pop culture "meme".) If an episode of Transformers said "Live long and prosper" I'm sure we would reference that even though those are all existing words. This seems like a popular enough catch phrase to reference. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 00:39, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T04:16:32Z

SoundWave: Created page with "Why did my "real life reference" get deleted? The phrase "awkward..." is used in other pop-culture movies! I believe it was first used in the movie Hoodwinked. (Not the word itse…"

Patch (episode)

2013-10-19T04:09:00Z

SoundWave: /* Real-world references */

{{disambig2|the ''Prime'' episode|the dog from Generation 1|Patch (G1)}}

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|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 50
|prev=Inside Job
|next=Regeneration (Prime)
|image=Patch Starscream dances.jpg
|caption= Everybody cut loose! Footloose!
|title="Patch"
|airdate=[[October 19]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Starscream proposes a truce with Megatron, but the Decepticon leader remains suspicious.'''

==Synopsis==
Atop the Decepticon warship, [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] asks [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] what he seeks in return for the [[Omega Key]]s, his answer being that he merely wishes to once more be a [[Decepticon]] under Megatron's command. Megatron points out that [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] is now his second-in-command, and Starscream insists he will keep to his place. Skeptical, Megatron has [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] extracted from the wall so that he can connect Megatron and Starscream with a [[cortical psychic patch]].

[[Image:PatchKnockOut.JPG|thumb|left|250px|Don't get so cocky, Knock Out.]]

By rummaging through Starscream's memories, Megatron intends to find what really drives him. Once inside, he reminds Starscream that there are no secrets, even as they watch Starscream's base consciousness obnoxiously celebrating becoming leader of the Decepticons, much to the present Starscream's embarrassment and Megatron's amusement.

He begins by reviewing the events surrounding the [[space bridge]] explosion. Megatron watches various instances of Starscream's attempts at assassination: the time he made a bunch of clones to infiltrate the ''Nemesis''; and when he tried to make a deal with Airachnid. Starscream lamely claims he was half-crazed with energon deficiency at the time, and insists he always had Megatron's best interests at heart, like removing the [[Dark Energon]] from his body so his mind did not become corrupted by it. Naturally, Megatron doesn't buy it. Upon replaying Starscream's musings when Megatron was trapped underground, he suggests that Starscream refrain from thinking out loud in the future. He also drops the hint that if Starscream fails to be convincing, the patch session will end in Starscream's termination.

Starscream claims the occasional trouncing is enough to bring him back into line, and tries to play up his own generosity, bringing up the gift of [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]]'s corpse for Dark Energon experimentation, and his use of his wits in dealing with the Autobots. Megatron points out his wits are usually insufficient to compensate for his arrogance: when he faced [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] while charged up on Dark Energon; or when he tried to use the [[Energon Harvester]] on [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]. The revelation that [[MECH]] took Starscream's [[transformation cog|T-Cog]] greatly amuses Megatron, though Starscream is hoping that that might be restored to him in exchange for the Omega Keys — after all, he usually transforms with such style. He points out that at the time he deserted the Deception cause, he was not being made to feel particularly welcome there, despite apparently learning his place. Megatron does not believe Starscream's change of heart at the time would have lasted, and replays a discussion between Starscream and Knock Out while Megatron was lying in a coma in the sick bay. In the real world, Knock Out starts to realize that Starscream's memories are going to be equally incriminating to himself. Panicking, he comes up with a plan to disconnect the patch, trapping Megatron in Starscream's mind.

[[Image:PatchKnockOutDreadwing.jpg|thumb|right|250px|That awkward moment when you find out that your thought-to-be-dead twin brother is a zombie.]]

As Knock Out goes to unplug Megatron, Dreadwing stops him and he is forced to make up an excuse. Megatron's psychic interrogation of Starscream continues, and while Starscream claims that not even Dreadwing may have been a "perfect" replacement as his second-in-command, Megatron agrees, but points out at least Dreadwing and his departed brother [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] were loyal and honorable. Starscream's memories of Skyquake's death and revival through Dark Energon are replayed, and he recalls how Skyquake was left in an undead state in some dimensional nether-realm. This revelation comes as a shock to Dreadwing, who is still watching in the lab. Megatron announces that Starscream will be allowed to rejoin the Decepticon forces proper, as they ''must'' be working as one unit if Cybertron is to be properly restored, a fact also addressed to the watching Knock Out. Shaken, Knock Out turns away from the monitor to discover that Dreadwing is no longer in the room. The second-in-command is instead on the outer hull of the ''Nemesis'', and aims a scream of rage at the sky.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
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* ''[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'' (6)
* ''[[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]]'' (12)
* ''[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]'' (13)
* ''[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'' (14)
* ''[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]'' (15)
* ''[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]''
* ''[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (back of head only)
|c2=
* [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (1)
* [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (3)
* [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (4)
* ''[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]]'' (5)
* ''[[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]]'' (7)
* ''[[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]]'' (8)
* ''[[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscream clone]]s'' (9)
* ''[[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]]'' (10)
* ''[[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]'' (11)
* ''[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]'' (17)
|c3=
* ''[[Silas]]'' (16)
* ''[[MECH Commando]]s''
|c4=
* [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (2)
}}
<nowiki>*</nowiki>''Only appeared in flashback.''

==Quotes==
"Few things of value come without a price."
:—'''Megatron'''

"This is going to be ''juicy''."
:—'''Knock Out''' will regret that prediction.

''The camera focuses on Starscream after they see his victory dance memory'' 
"A-heh-heh-heh... you're inside my head, aren't you?" 
:—'''Starscream''' realizes what Megatron's up to.

"A word of advice? Stop thinking aloud."
:—'''Megatron''' reckons Starscream talks too much.

"Ah, I do transform with an exceptional sense of style... I said that out loud, didn't I?"
:—'''Starscream''' doesn't take Megatron's words to heart.

"Uh oh... Does this thing have a fast forward button? Or better yet, erase?!"
:—'''Knock Out''' knows he's in the scrap yard now.

"Awkward..."
:—'''Knock Out''' aptly summarizes the general atmosphere of the episode.

"Infighting has nearly destroyed the Decepticons during your absence. We are to operate as a united front if we are to revive and conquer Cybertron. That means each and every one of us... ''Knock Out''!"
:—'''Megatron''', swatting two flies in one hit.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
* When Knock Out is looking around the lab to see Dreadwing is gone, the tables are empty, when Megatron and Starscream should be visible on them.

===Continuity errors===
* Starscream was not present when Skyquake was trapped in an alternate dimension in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]", nor was that fact ever made clear to him or any other Decepticon. While it is obvious that Skyquake lost his arm (since it attacked Starscream), Starscream shouldn't have such precise knowledge of his fate.

===Continuity notes===
* This is the first truly Decepticon-focused episode, with no Autobots appearing outside of flashbacks.
* Dreadwing learns of Starscream's attempt to revive Skyquake as a zombie minion in "Shadowzone", as well as his imprisonment in an alternate dimension at the end of that episode.
* Megatron tells Dreadwing to free Knock Out from the wall of the ''Nemesis'', which occurred in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].

===Real-world references===
* When the Vehicons "All hail Starscream", he begins a hilarious victory-dance routine, with his final moves being an impression of John Travolta in ''Saturday Night Fever''.
* The phrase "awkward" is used in many other pop-culture movies and shows in this context.

===Trivia===
* This is the second [[clip show|clip episode]], the first being "[[Grill]]".
* Megatron's mental projection has his original arm, not the [[dead Prime]]'s arm, just like in the [[Inside Job|previous episode]].
* For being clever enough to engineer a plan to successfully steal all four Omega Keys, Starscream didn't really think through his plan to regain Megatron's favor. He went in with no insurance policy to make sure Megatron didn't just simply scrap him and take the keys instead.
* So, uh... how did they get Knock Out out of the wall? And how did he expect to get put back into it?
** If the wall was torn down by Dreadwing, Knockout would be suggesting that Megatron will order the wall to be built again with Knockout's dead corpse sticking in it.
* Starscream's got sweet dance moves!

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''In Starscreams Kopf'''" ("Inside Starscream's Head")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[February 25|25 February]] [[2013]]

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Shikkoku Henkei! Uragiri no Kage'''" (漆黒変形!裏切りの影, "Blackest Transformation! The Shadow of Treachery")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 16|16 March]] [[2013]]
:*A scene that was cut from the original Japanese dub of "[[Rock Bottom]]" is actually kept in and dubbed in this episode.

'''Brazilian Portuguese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Fragmentos'''" ("Fragmentos")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[August 18|18 August]] [[2013]]

[[Category:Prime episodes]]
[[Category:Clip shows]]

Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

2013-10-18T19:33:41Z

SoundWave: /* New Characters */

Does [http://jalopnik.com/did-transformers-4-rip-off-this-guys-design-for-the-ne-510655228 this] belong here? Should I keep it for later?

Basically, allegations that Bumblebee's new (officially confirmed) alternate mode is directly based on some random guy's customized Camaro.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 06:31, 14 June 2013 (EDT)

It's called Transformers: Age of Extinction. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 11:03, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
:That's not going onto the article 'til an official press release actually announces it. As of right now, it isn't officially confirmed. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 11:10, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== Dinobots ==

Given that they've been officially confirmed, I would imagine they would be given a mention somewhere on this page. Not saying we should go so far as to add Grimlock to the featured characters, but I would have thought they'd have some sort of mention here or there.

== New Characters ==

I read online that Autobots "Crosshairs", and "Drift" will be joining the cast, along with Decepticon "Cyclonus". I also read that Dino/Mirage and Sideswipe will not be returning. Should we include this? {{unsigned|Deceptibot‎}}
:Is it from an official source, or is it from a leak? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:01, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well, it came from Wikipedia, I just wanted to know if we should consider it.
::Looking at the Wikipedia article and its sources, these seem to be the usual mix of rumors and leaked production names (which are often chosen for purposes of misdirection). Don't think we need to bother with them. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:37, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well,it also came from a leaked callsheet.Bay tried making a fake callsheet for ROTF but it failed because all that was in that callsheet appeared in the movie.Bay wouldn't try to do that again so it's basically confirmed that the names for the Corvette C7 and the Bugatti are Drift and Crosshairs.Also in that callsheet it said something about a spaceship crashing and "Cyclonus".Should we include this?P.S.I'm new to the wiki{{unsigned|Bumblebee Prime}} 14:17, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's a very interesting definition of 'basically confirmed' you're using. If it hasn't been ''offically'' confirmed, by Michael Bay and/or a ''reputable'' news source, it ain't going on the article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:39, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's the same reasoning cardsharps rely on. "Oh, he really was bluffing those first four hands when I won a little bit of money, so he must be bluffing now when I am all in." In other words, leaked callsheets are not "confirmation" of anything.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:37, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
I've also seen pictures of Ratchet and Leadfoot prop vehicles on the set of TF4, should we note this?--[[User:Deceptibot|Deceptibot]] 14:41, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

we should more characters to the list, even Wkipedia has a complete list: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_Age_of_Extinction - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:21, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:No, these haven't been confirmeds, so we aren't adding them. This page seems like it needs to be locked soon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:23, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::I may have to start using Wikipedia for my Transformers info if Tfwiki refuses to keep up to date. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:25, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, we refuse to use rumors. Hell, half the time, information on Wikipedia on Transformers isn't even complete or factually right. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:28, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::This isn't TFWiki "refusing to keep up to date". This is TFWiki not reporting on hearsay and unconfirmed rumors (which is 90% of the "up-to-date" crap Wikipedia's got listed). We have [[Help:Official info|guidelines]] for official information regarding upcoming product and media. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:56, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::How many different names did Blackout go through in the first film, again? How many ''DOTM'' character sheets use non-final names, again? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:07, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Tfwiki should create a news page like TFW2005, to put news, leaks and unconfirmed info on, that way we could still have it, but it wouldn't mess up the article. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:11, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::Dear god, NO. We aren't a new site. We are a wiki. We don't do that crap. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:14, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::Or, here's an idea, you use TFW2005 to get all your breaking scoops regarding leaks, rather than ask for TFWiki to emulate TFW2005. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:28, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::It was just a suggestion, I will definitely continue using TFW. But how come everytime I make a change, on any article, it's always Detour, Escargon or Jaylaguy that answers, do you guys own this wiki, or something?

Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

2013-10-18T19:11:40Z

SoundWave: /* New Characters */

Does [http://jalopnik.com/did-transformers-4-rip-off-this-guys-design-for-the-ne-510655228 this] belong here? Should I keep it for later?

Basically, allegations that Bumblebee's new (officially confirmed) alternate mode is directly based on some random guy's customized Camaro.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 06:31, 14 June 2013 (EDT)

It's called Transformers: Age of Extinction. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 11:03, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
:That's not going onto the article 'til an official press release actually announces it. As of right now, it isn't officially confirmed. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 11:10, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== Dinobots ==

Given that they've been officially confirmed, I would imagine they would be given a mention somewhere on this page. Not saying we should go so far as to add Grimlock to the featured characters, but I would have thought they'd have some sort of mention here or there.

== New Characters ==

I read online that Autobots "Crosshairs", and "Drift" will be joining the cast, along with Decepticon "Cyclonus". I also read that Dino/Mirage and Sideswipe will not be returning. Should we include this? {{unsigned|Deceptibot‎}}
:Is it from an official source, or is it from a leak? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:01, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well, it came from Wikipedia, I just wanted to know if we should consider it.
::Looking at the Wikipedia article and its sources, these seem to be the usual mix of rumors and leaked production names (which are often chosen for purposes of misdirection). Don't think we need to bother with them. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:37, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well,it also came from a leaked callsheet.Bay tried making a fake callsheet for ROTF but it failed because all that was in that callsheet appeared in the movie.Bay wouldn't try to do that again so it's basically confirmed that the names for the Corvette C7 and the Bugatti are Drift and Crosshairs.Also in that callsheet it said something about a spaceship crashing and "Cyclonus".Should we include this?P.S.I'm new to the wiki{{unsigned|Bumblebee Prime}} 14:17, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's a very interesting definition of 'basically confirmed' you're using. If it hasn't been ''offically'' confirmed, by Michael Bay and/or a ''reputable'' news source, it ain't going on the article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:39, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's the same reasoning cardsharps rely on. "Oh, he really was bluffing those first four hands when I won a little bit of money, so he must be bluffing now when I am all in." In other words, leaked callsheets are not "confirmation" of anything.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:37, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
I've also seen pictures of Ratchet and Leadfoot prop vehicles on the set of TF4, should we note this?--[[User:Deceptibot|Deceptibot]] 14:41, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

we should more characters to the list, even Wkipedia has a complete list: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_Age_of_Extinction - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:21, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:No, these haven't been confirmeds, so we aren't adding them. This page seems like it needs to be locked soon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:23, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::I may have to start using Wikipedia for my Transformers info if Tfwiki refuses to keep up to date. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:25, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, we refuse to use rumors. Hell, half the time, information on Wikipedia on Transformers isn't even complete or factually right. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:28, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::This isn't TFWiki "refusing to keep up to date". This is TFWiki not reporting on hearsay and unconfirmed rumors (which is 90% of the "up-to-date" crap Wikipedia's got listed). We have [[Help:Official info|guidelines]] for official information regarding upcoming product and media. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:56, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::How many different names did Blackout go through in the first film, again? How many ''DOTM'' character sheets use non-final names, again? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:07, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::::: Tfwiki should create a news page like TFW2005, to put news, leaks and unconfirmed info on, that way we could still have it, but it wouldn't mess up the article. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:11, 18 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

2013-10-18T18:25:34Z

SoundWave: /* New Characters */

Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

2013-10-18T18:21:45Z

SoundWave: /* New Characters */

Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

2013-10-14T16:27:30Z

SoundWave: /* Main cast */

{{Nav-aoe}}
[[File:Transformers- Age of ExtinctionTeaserPoster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Something has survived...]]

'''''Transformers: Age of Extinction''''' is the fourth film in the [[live-action film series]]. It is currently scheduled for [[June 27]], [[2014]].<ref name="tf4update">[http://michaelbay.com/2012/02/14/transformers-4-update/ Transformers 4 Update] on Michael Bay's site.</ref> It will be set four years after the climactic battle of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.<ref name="tf4casting">[http://www.airlockalpha.com/node/9420/transformers-4-casting-takes-off.html Transformers 4 Casting Takes Off]</ref>

==Confirmed information==
*February 13, 2012 — Paramount announces [[Michael Bay]] has signed a deal to make a fourth ''Transformers'' film.<ref name="tf4update" />
*June 6, 2012 — During [[Transformers: The Ride – 3D]] coverage, LA Times reports Michael Bay as saying the film will have a whole new human cast and redesigned robots.<ref>[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/transformers-the-ride-3d-even-impresses-disney-rivals/ Transformers taking new shape] on LA Times</ref>
*June 21, 2012 — In another LA Times interview, Bay reveals that the film will not be a reboot as previously stated.<ref>[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/transformers-4-michael-bay-purges-stars-may-go-into-space/ 'Transformers 4': Michael Bay purges stars, may go into space] on LA Times</ref>
*September 21, 2012 — Bay confirms that voice actor [[Peter Cullen]] will be kept on as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] once again.<ref>[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/michael-bay-transformers-4-pain-and-gain_n_1903523.html Huffington Post interview].</ref>
*October 18, 2012 — The logo is revealed at a Paramount presentation.<ref>[http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=95936 Paramount Previews Jack Reacher, Pain & Gain, Jack Ryan, Transformers 4, World War Z & More! ] on Comingsoon.net</ref>
*November 8, 2012 — After a number of rumors suggest it, Bay casts actor [[Mark Wahlberg]] in the film.<ref name="wahlberg">[http://michaelbay.com/2012/11/08/michel-bay-re-teams-with-his-pain-gain-star-mark-mark-wahlberg-for-transformers-4/ Michael Bay Re-Teams With His 'Pain & Gain' Star Mark Wahlberg for Transformers 4] on Michael Bay's site.</ref>
*December 15, 2012 — Wahlberg confirms that filming of ''Transformers 4'' will commence in May 2013. <ref>[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2012/12/transformers-4-shoot-begins-in-may.html Transformers 4 Shoot Begins in May]</ref>
*January 8, 2013 — Bay casts Irish American actor [[Jack Reynor]] in ''Transformers 4''. <ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jack-reynor-lands-starring-role-409850 Jack Reynor Lands Starring Role]</ref>
*March 20, 2013 — The Michigan Film Office announces the film series will return to [[Detroit]],<ref>[http://www.michiganfilmoffice.org/The-Film-Office/Press-Releases/Detail.aspx?id=11620 Transformers Returning to Michigan, Approved for Film Incentive]</ref> and reveals plot details which are later debunked by Paramount Pictures.<ref>[http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-movie-plot-synopsis-cast/ Unofficial 'Transformers 4' Plot Synopsis Is Not Accurate]</ref>
*March 26, 2013 — [[Nicola Peltz]] is confirmed as a cast member via Bay's website.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/03/26/welcome-nicola-peltz-to-transformers-4/ Welcome Nicola Peltz to Transformers 4]</ref>
*April 15, 2013 — Actor [[Stanley Tucci]] joins the cast.<ref>[http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinemaconnews.php?id=103034 CinemaCon: Stanley Tucci Joins Transformers 4]</ref>
*May 1, 2013 — [[Kelsey Grammer]] joins the cast as the lead villain named "Harold Attinger".<ref>[http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/kelsey-grammer-lands-lead-human-villain-in-transformers-sequel/ Kelsey Grammer Lands Lead (Human) Villain In ‘Transformers’ Sequel]</ref>
*May 6, 2013 — The Wrap confirms that [[Sophia Myles]] will play a scientist.<ref>[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/sophia-myles-join-mark-wahlberg-michael-bays-transformers-4-exclusive-89661 Sophia Myles to Join Mark Wahlberg in Michael Bay's 'Transformers 4' (Exclusive)]</ref>
*May 18, 2013 — The name of Mark Wahlberg's character is revealed to be Flynn Vincent.
*May 20, 2013 — Chinese actress [[Li Bingbing]] joins the cast.<ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinas-li-bingbing-boards-transformers-525370 China's Li Bingbing Boards 'Transformers 4']</ref>
*May 28, 2013 — Actor-Comedian [[T. J. Miller]] joins the cast as a mechanic who is the best friend of Wahlberg's character.<ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tj-miller-joins-transformers-4-559359 T.J. Miller Joins 'Transformers4']</ref> Filming begins at [[Wikipedia:Monument Valley|Monument Valley]]<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/28/transformers-4-starts-filming-in-monument-valley-navajo-tribal-park/ Transformers 4 Starts Filming in Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park]</ref> and the alternate modes of two new Autobots are revealed on Michael Bay's website: a C7 Corvette Stingray<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/28/transformers-4-cars-c7-corvette-stingray/ Transformers 4: C7 Corvette Stingray]</ref> and a Bugatti Grand Sport Vitesse.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/28/transformer-4-cars/ Transformers 4: Bugatti Grand Sport Vitesse]</ref>
*May 29, 2013 — Optimus Prime's new alternate mode is officially revealed by Michael Bay as a custom-built semi-truck.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/29/optimus-prime/ Optimus Prime]</ref>
*May 30, 2013 — Bumblebee's new alternate mode is revealed on Michael Bay's website as a highly modified 1967 Camaro SS.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/30/transformers-4-bumblebee/ Bumblebee]</ref>
*May 31, 2013 — Hound is revealed as a new character for Transformers 4, transforming into a Medium Tactical Vehicle.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/31/hound/ Hound]</ref>
*June 7, 2013 — Another new vehicle for the film is revealed as a Lamborghini Aventador.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/06/07/lamborghini-aventador/ Lamborghini Aventador]</ref>
*June 12, 2013 — The Sonic RS Rally Car is revealed for the film.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/06/12/sonic-rs/ Sonic RS Rally Car]</ref>
*June 25, 2013 — The Pagani Huayra is revealed to appear in the film.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/06/25/pagani-huayra/ Pagani Huayra]</ref>
*June 28, 2013 — A Freightliner Argosy cab-over truck is revealed for the film.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/06/28/freightliner/ Freightliner]</ref>
*July 2, 2013 — A second alternate mode is revealed for Bumblebee in the form of a 2014 Concept Camaro.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/07/02/bumblebee-2014-concept-camaro/ Bumblebee 2014 Concept Camaro]</ref><ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/07/02/bumblebee-2014-concept-camaro-2/ Bumblebee 2014 Concept Camaro]</ref>
*July 14, 2013 — Chinese actor-musician [[Han Geng]] is announced as being part of the cast.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2013/07/14/han-geng/ Han Geng]</ref>
*July 25, 2013 — After being spotted in Texas in June, actor [[Titus Welliver]] officially joins the cast.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/titus-welliver-officially-on-board-for-transformers-4-178094/]</ref>
*July 27, 2013 — The S.S. Columbia and the S.S. Ste. Clair have been spotted to be featured in the film.<ref>[http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2013/07/26/wdr-boblo-boats-transformers-four.html]</ref>
*July 30, 2013 — Wahlberg's children have been cast.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/mark-wahlbergs-children-to-appear-in-transformers-4-178126/]</ref>
*August 12, 2013 — [[Victoria Summer]] joins the cast.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/victoria-summer-in-transformers-4-178207/]</ref>
*August 25, 2013 — The ''[[Transformers 4 Chinese Actors Talent Search Reality Show]]'' ends, with winners [[Byron Li]], [[Candice Zhao]], [[Austin Lin]] and [[Teresa Daley]] joining the cast.<ref>[http://beijing.china.org.cn/2013-08/28/content_29845758.htm 'Transformers 4' recruits 4 Chinese actors]</ref>
*September 3, 2013 — Lorenzo di Bonaventura confirms the presence of Dinobots in the film.<ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/03/dinobots-confirmed-for-transformers-4 Dinobots Confirmed for Transformers 4]</ref>
*September 3, 2013 — The film's title, ''Transformers: Age of Extinction'', is officially announced and the first teaser poster is revealed.<ref>[http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/transformers-4-title-reveal-age-extinction-hints-dinobots-225716345.html 'Transformers 4' Title Reveal: 'Age of Extinction' Hints at Dinobots]</ref>


==Main cast==
{{featuredcharacters|
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*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]
*Crosshairs

|h3=[[Human]]s|c3=
*[[Flynn Vincent]] ([[Mark Wahlberg]])
*[[Harold Attinger]] ([[Kelsey Grammer]])

|h4=Other|c4=
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''''Transformers: Lost Age''''' (トランスフォーマーロストエイジ ''Toransufōmā Rosuto Eiji'')<ref>[http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0056111 『トランスフォーマー』第4弾の邦題は『トランスフォーマーロストエイジ』に決定！最新ビジュアルも公開]</ref>
*''Russian:'' '''''Age of Extinction''''' (Эпоха истребления ''Epokha istrebleniya'')

==References==
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[[Category:Real world films]]

Talk:Team Prime

2013-10-13T23:21:21Z

SoundWave: /* Optimus */

==Humans honorary?==
What makes the human members "honorary"? In "Synthesis" they sound like full-fledged members. Optimus Prime: "Members of Team Prime, Autobot and human: It has been my honor to lead you...." I don't know about June, though. She wasn't there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:58, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

==knockout==

We should add this picture: http://i.imgur.com/n0iAmMb.png and add knockout to the list.[[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:42, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

==Optimus==
We also need to list Optimus as deceased ( y'know, because he did that self-sacrifice thing in Predacons Rising). -- [[User:Deceptibot|deceptibot]]
:I thought he was already listed as offline.[[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:30, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
::No, we don't. Cliffjumper being dead is intrinsic to his role in the storyline, and he's dead from the outset. Optimus dies at the end of the series. It's like doing a list of characters for the G1 cartoon and labelling Huffer as deceased. It's stupid and not what an over-arcing character list for the entire show should be about. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:39, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
:::By that logic, we need to edit the entire ''Wreckers'' page, and remove the ''deceased'' status on all of the dead wrecker members. --[[User:Deceptibot|deceptibot]]
::::No, because that's a different thing entirely. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:21, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::More specifically, the whole ''point'' of the Wreckers is that they're a constantly changing line up, some of whom may never have even met each other. They're effectively a series of teams under the same name. Team Prime is a fairly static thing (bar occasional new members), and listing Optimus as deceased based on the team's very final fictional appearance is in no way representative of how Team Prime actually appears most of the time. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:51, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::According to official fiction, Optimus is offline, so thats how he should appear in this list. If the next show brings him back, we can remove it. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:21, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Team Prime

2013-10-13T19:30:00Z

SoundWave: /* Optimus */

Team Prime

2013-10-13T01:54:39Z

SoundWave: /* Members */

{{faction|autobot}}
:''Team Prime is an [[Autobot]] group from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:Rebellion-Autobotgroupshot.jpg|500px|thumb|''WE ARE LEGEND HEROOOOOOES!!!!'']]

'''Team Prime''', later the '''Beast Hunters''', is the Autobot team stationed in [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Outpost Omega One]], led by none other than Optimus Prime himself.

==Members==
[[Image:DarknessRising1-untappedenergondeposit.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
*'''Autobots'''
**[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (leader)
**[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]
**[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]
**[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]
**[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]
**[[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] (offline)
**[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]
**[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]]
**[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]]
**Knock Out
*'''Humans'''
**[[Jack Darby]]
**[[Raf Esquivel]]
**[[Miko Nakadai]]
**[[William Fowler]]
**[[June Darby]]

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' comic===
Team Prime, then consisting of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]], [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], were already based in the missile silo when [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] and [[Cliffjumper (WFC)|Cliffjumper]] answered Optimus's call and arrived on Earth. Optimus and Bumblebee used the [[GroundBridge]] to rescue the two from [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (graphic novel)|Prime}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
[[Image:PrimeTS-Autobots.jpg|right|400px|thumb|We could handle Team Edward and Team Jacob.]]
At some point, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, and Ratchet travelled to the planet [[Earth]]. They were appointed [[William Fowler]] as an official human-Cybertronian liaison and given an abandoned missile silo as housing, which was eventually converted into [[Autobot Outpost Omega One]]. Some time afterwards, Team Prime received reinforcements in the shape of Arcee and Cliffjumper, who had commandeered a Decepticon [[space bridge]] in order to reach Optimus Prime's current location. After landing on Earth, they obtained Earth vehicle forms and joined the team. {{storylink|Out of the Past}} After three years of little Decepticon activity, Cliffjumper was killed by [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Some time afterwards, [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] briefly arrived on Earth, but eventually left to continue travelling the stars. {{storylink|Con Job}}. Team Prime continued to cope with a number of threats, including [[Scraplet]]s, {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}} [[MECH]], {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}} attempted infiltration by the Decepticons, {{storylink|Con Job}} Bulkhead's mind almost being overwritten, {{storylink|T.M.I.}} [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]]'s drug problems, {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}} and even Megatron himself possessing Bumblebee's mind. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

While they struggled to stop the Decepticons getting components to build a new space bridge, {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} it became clear that there was a larger menace in play—[[Unicron]]. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}} Such was this threat that it required Team Prime to join with Megatron and venture into Earth's core {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}} where they vanquished Unicron, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime's memories. Believing himself to be simple Orion Pax, he left with Megatron, leaving Team Prime with Ratchet as acting leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} The rest of Team Prime endeavored to restore Optimus's memories, leading to Jack and Arcee undertaking a trip to Cybertron to visit [[Vector Sigma]] and successfully bringing Prime back to them. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

While Team Prime dealt with the repercussions of Optimus's temporary defection, [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] returned to Earth and became an honorary member of Team Prime, although he spent much of his time away from base. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}}. The Autobots found themselves in an arms race with the Decepticons to recover Cybertronian relics previously launched into space from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] during the final days of the war. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} {{storylink|Flying Mind}} Bulkhead was later critically injured by the [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] [[Hardshell (Prime)|Hardshell]], leaving him gravely injured and unable to fight. {{storylink|Toxicity}} Wheeljack and Miko's ensuing quest for revenge not only killed Hardshell, but alienated the former from the team for putting the latter in harm's way. {{storylink|Hurt}} However, a new Autobot named [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] landed on Earth, and became the newest member of the team. {{storylink|New Recruit}} Bulkhead eventually recovered. {{storylink|Legacy}}

When the Decepticons built [[Darkmount (Earth)|a huge fortress]] outside Jasper and launched an attack on the base - a battle in which Wheeljack and Fowler proved their loyalty to the Autobots when they came to their aid - and Optimus had the team split up while he stayed behind to destroy the GroundBridge. The Decepticons destroyed the base with Optimus still inside. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (episode)|Darkest Hour}} Smokescreen rescued the dying Optimus and hid with him underground as the Decepticons tried to find the scattered Autobots, {{storylink|Darkmount, NV}} though Optimus believed his death was imminent and believed Smokescreen to be his successor as leader of the team. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Not long after, [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived on Earth, {{storylink|Scattered}} and was able to reunite Ratchet, Bumblebee, Arcee, Bulkhead, the humans, and Wheeljack. {{storylink|Prey (episode)|Prey}} Magnus led an assault on Darkmount that ended in failure, but when all hope seemed lost, Optimus Prime, returned, having been upgraded by the [[Forge of Solus Prime]] thanks to Smokescreen. The battle was renewed and the fortress came crashing down with help from Agent Fowler. The Autobots regrouped at a military base, and Optimus welcomed Ultra Magnus to the team. {{storylink|Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion}} Upon finding out about Megatron's plans of cloning a Predacon army and unleashing it on mankind and the Autobots, Optimus redubbed the team, the "Beast Hunters". Tensions began brewing in the team with the arrival of Ultra Magnus as the new second-in-command,{{storylink|Project Predacon}} climaxing when Magnus nearly caused Wheeljack to leave the team during a Predacon bone hunt in Scotland, {{storylink|Chain of Command (Prime)}} but luckily he is convinced to stay by Arcee. {{storylink|Plus One}} Magnus finally realized his negative effect on the team when they prove to favor Optimus over him, and he and Wheeljack mended their differences when facing off against the newly-sentient [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking}} after destroying Shockwave's Project Predacon. {{storylink|Evolution}}

When the Decepticons turned their efforts toward stealing Earth's technology for their latest scheme to rebuild the [[Omega Lock]], the Autobots are able to capture [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]], who confesses nothing, and ultimately is freed by [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] and captures Ratchet, taking him back to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Minus One}} The team tried their best to cope without their medic, and devised a plan to find him and the Decepticon's warship, while Ratchet was persuaded to help perfect the synthetic Energon neccesary to restore Cybertron. {{storylink|Persuasion}} Though they failed to find the ''Nemesis'' on their own, Ratchet was eventually able to disable the vessel's shield, letting the entire team storm the ship for a final battle. {{storylink|Synthesis}} Optimus and Megatron battled each other; Jack, Miko and Raf banished Soundwave to the [[Shadowzone (dimension)|Shadowzone]]; the Wreckers engaged the Decepticon troops; and Arcee, Ratchet, and Smokescreen fought Starscream and Shockwave. Bumblebee attempted to get the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] to Optimus, but is killed by Megatron halfway to him. Before he could kill Optimus, Megatron was slain by Bumblebee (restored by the Omega Lock's [[Cyber-matter]])with the Saber. The team took control of the ''Nemesis'' and used the Omega Lock to restore Cybertron, where Knock Out failed to talk his way onto the team. The Autobots returned to Cybertron to rebuild, while Ratchet stayed behind with [[Unit:E]] on Earth. {{storylink|Deadlock}}

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
Ratchet constructed the [[Safe]], a training room on one of the lower levels of the base. In the process of testing it, the Autobots uncovered a live nuclear bomb. The warhead, which should have been taken away when the base was originally stripped, almost led to the discovery of the base by Vehicons. Luckily Raf was able to keep the bomb busy until Fowler arrived with some scientists to defuse it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}}

[[Image:Titan4.3 ice rink Omega One.jpg|thumb|left|270px]]
The Autobots decorated their base for [[Christmas]], however when Fowler told them the Decepticons had taken over a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]], Optimus left Bulkhead and Arcee behind to work on their differences. On Raf's suggestion, the pair tried to find a common like, and eventually settled on ice skating. Then they turned the base into an indoor ice rink, which Ratchet didn't seem too enthusiastic about. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

When Raf became hypnotised by a video game and activated the GroundBridge, hordes of Vehicons started pouring into the base. Ratchet activated the base's defenses, providing pop-up metal shields as cover while the Autobots fought back. Raf was eventually snapped out of his trance and turned the GroundBridge into a vacuum that sucking the Vehicons back out, though there were a few loose parts left behind. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

== Games ==
=== ''Transformers: Prime - The Game ===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime - The Game}}

==Notes==

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:Prime subgroups]]

Predacons Rising (Prime)

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|prev=Deadlock
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|image=PredaconsRisingCover.jpg
|caption="Today we face the monsters that are at our door, today we are cancelling the apocalypse!"
|title=''Predacons Rising
|airdate=[[October 4]] (TV premiere) and [[October 8]] (home video release), [[2013]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]] [[Marsha Griffin]] [[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]] [[Scooter Tidwell]] [[Todd Waterman]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}
'''Autobots, Decepticons, and Predacons form an unlikely alliance to battle a resurrected Unicron.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has been restored, and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] gives a speech honoring those not still with them who helped make it possible. However even as he does so, back on [[Earth]] at the bottom of the ocean, [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] is awoken by [[Unicron]]. Megatron is confused as to why his [[spark]] not one with the [[AllSpark]], but Unicron explains that Megatron's [[Dark Energon]] use has made that impossible. Requiring a new vessel with which to carry out his plans, Unicron reformats Megatron's body into a more powerful form, takes possession of it and heads into the sky. Meanwhile, Optimus holds a short ceremony to promote [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] to warrior, before announcing that he ans [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] are going to go and retrieve the physical AllSpark from where it was hidden during the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]].

Streaking through space, Megatron believes Unicron intends to become ruler of Cybertron, but Unicron reveals that he instead intends to destroy Primus, which will spell the end for that planet, and soon all of the universe.

As [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] finds construction with [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] a troublesome task, [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] reports they've had no luck finding [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], incarcerated on the [[Trypticon (WFC)|warship]], attempts to persuade the Bumblebee he's on their side by providing him with information on where they might locate the fugitive Decepticons. [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] patrol the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]], now restored to a city, and run into an unpleasant surprise—the [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]] [[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] and [[Skylynx]]. The two Autobots are no match for the new clones, and Magnus is severely injured before Smokescreen manages to use the [[phase shifter]] to make their escape. [[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] is called to Cybertron to tend to Magnus, while the other Autobots try to decide on their next step.

[[File:PredaconsRisingSkylynxandDarksteelDragons.jpg|left|thumb|300px|So, uh, when do we start rising?]]

Across space, Optimus and Wheeljack track the AllSpark to [[Theta Scorpii]]. Not wanting to risk losing [[Ultra Magnus's ship]] in the hazardous conditions there, Optimus continues on alone.

Utilizing Bumblebee's tracking skills, the Autobots find [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], who has located a Predacon burial ground uncovered by the restoration of Cybertron. Bumblebee attempts to persuade Predaking that there can be a truce, but Predaking refuses to forget the Autobots' role in the destruction of his brethren. The Autobots instead head for Megatron's old fortress of [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], which Knock Out has informed them may contain a map showing the location of Shockwave's laboratories.

Shockwave's current lab is in the ruins of [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]]. Starscream arrives with another recovered Predacon bone, shortly before Darksteel and Skylynx return, laughing about their recent scrap. Starscream is furious to learn they've wandered off and revealed themselves to the Autobots, ruining their one major advantage, the element of surprise.

Over at Theta Scorpii, Optimus finally sights the AllSpark's container, but there's also an incoming [[plasma storm]], and he has to rush to retrieve their target before it can close in.

As the Autobots are checking out the Darkmount computer, they're interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, who makes it aggressively clear to both Autobot and Megatron alike who's in control of the Decepticon leader's form. The Autobots are no match for the dark god, so they attempt to scram. They're brought to a halt by a [[Smelting pool|smelting pit]], and a blast from Unicron leaves Bulkhead, Arcee and Smokescreen dangling over certain doom. Bumblebee manages to keep Unicron occupied long enough for Ratchet to provide a means of escape via [[GroundBridge]].

Meanwhile, Optimus has retrieved the AllSpark and made it back to the ship mere seconds before the plasma storm, and the Autobots book it out of there, though an asteroid thrown by the chaos collides with the ship. Back on the warship, Bumblebee attempts to contact Optimus, but the damage Magnus's ship sustained means though his message gets through, Optimus can't respond. The Autobots quickly realize that Unicron's plan is to destroy their home planet.

Acting on information from Bumblebee, Predaking finds evidence of Darksteel and Skylynx. He creates a signal in the form of a column of fire to try and attract the pair to his position, however the first to respond to it is Unicron. Megatron tricks Unicron into fighting the Predacon in the hopes if their shared body is mangled enough, it will be of no further use to Unicron and Megatron will be freed, however Unicron manages to defeat Predaking and, probing the Predacon's mind, learns of the burial ground.

The burial ground has also been found by Starscream, Darksteel and Skylynx, who summon Shockwave to help in gathering up the bones. Their task is interrupted by the arrival of Unicron, and Starscream is overjoyed to see whom he assumes is Megatron, however Unicron corrects him and bats him aside. Darksteel and Skylynx attack, but have no more luck against Unicron than anyone else has had. Opposition defeated, Unicron uses his power to raise the Predacon bones as an army of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]]. Starscream flees, while Shockwave is quickly dogpiled by the horde.

The Autobots, using the warship's computer to try and locate Unicron, detect the huge build up of Dark Energon at the burial ground and quickly realize what Unicron intends. As the horde starts moving across [[Hydrax Plateau]] towards the [[Well of All Sparks]], the Autobots prepare to use the warship to defend the location. Ratchet and Ultra Magnus are dropped off at a safe location and Smokescreen goes to retrieve the remaining relics from storage. Starscream arrives on the ship and frees the imprisoned Deceptions. They attempt to retake the ship, however Knock Out turns against Starscream, using the phase shifter to seize the [[Immobilizer]] and clock him with it... which also destroys the Immobilizer. Ooops.

Predaking arrives back at the burial ground and is horrified to see it has been desecrated. He asserts his dominance over Skylynx and Darksteel by fighting them, however Shockwave pops up to suggest they go put their combat skills to more productive use against Unicron's horde.

[[File:Predaconsrising-chaosandcreation.jpg|thumb|left|300px|"So you came to die with your planet!" "No, [[Batman|I'm]] here to stop you."]]
The Autobots make their last stand in the warship, opening fire on the oncoming Terrorcons. While the horde flies up to attack the ship, the Predacon trio arrive to lend a hand. Unfortunately the warship is shot down a short time later by concentrated Terrorcon fire blasts, and the Autobots emerge, but Predaking tells them to leave the fighting to the beasts. The Predacons are only able to slow the horde's advance though, and the Terrorcons start heading into the Well of All Sparks. Unicron himself feels the presence of the AllSpark as Magnus's ship arrives back on Cybertron. Optimus jumps out to attack Unicron, who shoots down the ship down before Optimus can engage him. Even Optimus has trouble fighting Unicron, and he's only saved when Bumblebee uses the [[polarity gauntlet]] to halt Unicron's blow. Optimus flies to where Bulkhead and Arcee are helping Wheeljack out of the wreck of Magnus's ship, intending to secure the AllSpark. Unicron breaks free of the polarity gauntlet's grasp and catches up with Optimus, who is now fleeing with the AllSpark, shooting the Autobot leader down. Opening the AllSpark container, Unicron opens it intending to devour the contents, only to find it is empty. Unicron's anti-spark is drawn out of Megatron by the vessel, which pulls it into itself and seals, trapping it there. The link to Unicron severed, Terrorcon army disintegrates just before it can reach the core.

[[File:PredaconsRisingWellofAllSparks.jpg|thumb|right|300px|AllSpark: Taste the Rainbow.]]
Starscream lands, having escaped his cell during the crash, and welcomes Megatron back from the dead, believing Megatron will once again lead the Decepticons. Having been put through the torments of Unicron, Megatron is broken, and no longer wishes to be an oppressor. Over Starscream's objections, he declares the Decepticons no more, and flies away, destination unknown. Starscream also flees, going instead to Darkmount where he intended to take his place as Decepticon leader. His reign is short-lived, as the Predacons arrive looking to settle some old scores with him.

At the Well of All Sparks, Optimus revealed that in order to set the trap for Unicron, he was forced to empty the AllSpark into the [[Matrix of Leadership]] inside him. This unfortunately means that his own spark is one with the multitude of others now inside the Matrix, and the only way the AllSpark can be restored to the Well is by merging it with the planet's core , which means giving up his own life. Despite protestations, Optimus assures them there is no other way, and that the age of Primes is over... and that new leaders will arise not by decree of ancient talismans, but by the virtue of their actions. Optimus flies into the Well, sacrificing himself, which releases a multitude of sparks into the sky.

[['Til all are one]].

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (2)
*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] (3)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (4)
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] (5)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (6)
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (7)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (11)
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (14)

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*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] (8)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (10)
*[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] (16)
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] (17)

|h4=[[Predacon (Prime)|Predacons]]
|c4=
*[[Darksteel (Prime)|Darksteel]] (12)
*[[Skylynx]] (13)
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (15)

|h5=Others
|c5=
*[[Unicron]] (9)
*[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]] Predacons (18)
}}

==Quotes==
"Optimus Prime would deem it a tragedy to stain Cybertron's fresh soil with any newly-spilled energon. So help us prove what Megatron was never willing to, that more than one race can peacefully co-exist on our planet." 
"You assume that because I turned against Megatron, I can forgive the Autobots their role in the destruction of my brethren on Earth? Leave me be and dare not trespass here again."
:—'''Bumblebee''' tries to appeal to '''Predaking'''....and fails.

"Lord Smokescreen, Emperor of Destruction!"
:—'''Smokescreen''' unintentionally mocks Starscream while goofing around on Darkmount's throne.

"It isn't fair. How many more times do we have to save a world? Have to fight for the survival of our home?" 
"Regrettably the struggle between creation and destruction is an eternal one, and the battle lines which separate the two run through the very spark of Cybertron. Good and evil; order and chaos; one victorious, one vanquished. Each forming the core of their own separate worlds, Cybertron and Earth. And now the darkness has followed us all the way home."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Ratchet''' lament the latest developments.

"In the name of the mighty legions of Predacons who preceded me, I shall never again yield to your charge, but I will heed your previous advice and face my true enemy as a beast!"
:—'''Predaking''' to '''Unicron'''/'''Megatron'''.

"The past shall consume the future, the dead shall consume the living, and chaos shall reign supreme!"
:—'''Unicron''' being a badass, riding a Terrorcon into battle.

"What are we supposed to call him, huh? Megacron? Unitron?" 
"'''Really??'''"
:—'''Smokescreen''' and '''Arcee''' debating over what to call a Unicron possessed Megatron.

"I say we show 'Lord of the Undead' what it's like to be unliving."
:—'''Skylynx''' gets a big boost of confidence.

"'Bee, in case I'd never get another chance to say this, you've really proved your mettle." 
"I'd like to think my actions always spoke louder than my words, Arcee, but it didn't hurt to watch and learn from the best." 
"''Would'' be nice if Optimus showed up about now." 
"I was referring to a powerful little two-wheeler I know."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Bumblebee''' talking about taking it to the next level

"And who made you boss?" 
"I... am not your boss. I am your ''KING''!"
:—'''Darksteel''' expresses his usual defiance, before receiving a verbal smackdown from '''Predaking'''.

"Knock Out! We needed that!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' channels Ratchet while telling off his new ally.

"An impressive display from my creations. But would it not be more logical to employ your might elsewhere at this time?"
:—'''Shockwave''' to the Predacons, after inexplicably cheating death by zombie mobbing.

"Why'd you do it Knock Out? Why'd you turn against Starscream?" 
"Even if I had helped him seize this ship, he would probably just fire me out of the first airlock. Oh. And he's ''rude''..."
:—'''Knock Out''' explains his actions to '''Arcee''', also commenting on his former comrade's behavior. Guess scratching one's paint and pinning the blame on the doc will leave that kind of impression.

"''Enough!'' The Decepticons are no more, and that is final."
:—'''Megatron''' delivers the wham line to Starscream.

'''Starscream:''' This is not quite how I envisioned my rise to the throne, but since Megatron all but surrendered it to me, I will gladly revive the Decepticons in my name. 
[Starscream screams upon the Predacons' arrival] 
'''Starscream:''' Though, perhaps, the throne is more befitting of an actual king? 
'''Predaking:''' I am not here to seize thrones, Starscream. But to settle scores.
:—And the second reign of '''Starscream''' is shorter than [[Double Jeopardy|Terrorsaur's]].

'''Optimus Prime:''' "While this may very well mark the end of the Age of Primes, leadership can be earned, with or without the Matrix. And in my view, you have ''each'' acted as a Prime." 
'''Knock Out:''' "Well I...never really had the best role models." 
:—'''Optimus''' passes leadership on to all the members of Team Prime, while the newest Autobot is actually humble for once.

"Above all, do not lament my absence, for in my spark, I know that this is not the end, but merely a new beginning. Simply put, another transformation."
:—'''Optimus Prime'''

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
*The pile of pipes that a crane picks up at Bulkhead's construction site doesn't behave like a pile of loose pipes, but as though they'd been welded together in the shape of a pile. In real life, the pipes are first tied together then lifted by a strap or other indirect method.
*Predaking often misses his wings when transforming into beast mode, for instance during the fight with Unicron/Megatron, Darksteel and Skylynx, and the fight against the Terrorcon Predacons. At the end of the last fight they just suddenly reappear when it ends at the Well of All Sparks.

===Continuity errors===
*Shockwave's survival is questionable, at best. Once the Terrorcon Predacon army is raised from the dead, they pile on Shockwave, who is currently in vehicle mode. When he shows up to convince the living Predacons to do something useful, he's now in robot mode with minimal visible damage; the worst is a missing "wing" and his cracked optic. Furthermore, he just vanishes from the plot after that. Did the Terrorcons decide he didn't taste good? Or was this a last-minute [[Hasbro]] edict to save him for later use?
*Speaking of Shockwave, why did he decide to fight those Terrorcons? Surely it would've been logical to run as Starscream did? Although the Terrorcons have displayed impressive speed, it would still be wise to retreat, as Shockwave isn't that much of a slowpoke, either.
*Nothing ever comes of the third Predacon clone Shockwave was in the process of growing, though it may not have finished growing.
*Come to think of it, if Predacon bones were on Cybertron, why weren't they turned into Terrorcons back in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 5|Darkness Rising]]"? Either this was a necessary plot hole, or the Predacon burial ground was embedded deep enough that the Dark Energon didn't seep that far.
*Darkmount's throne is undamaged when Starscream tries to claim it, even though Unicron shot it multiple times and pitched a spear through it.
*The manacles that Knock Out and the Vehicons are wearing in their first appearance are gone when Starscream shows up to break them out.
*Ratchet's medical scan of Ultra Magnus shows two intact hands, when he clearly still has the claw Ratchet fashioned for him.

===Continuity notes===
*Bumblebee is promoted to Warrior-class after first mentioning it as his goal in "[[Masters & Students]]", and later admitting he was holding back to be promoted on Cybertron in "[[Project Predacon]]".
*Bulkhead goes back to construction as Ratchet suggested in "[[Alpha/Omega]]".
*A handful of Vehicons are seen helping repair buildings on Cybertron with the Autobots, though it's not made clear if this is forced labor or they just decided to switch sides. Other Vehicons are seen imprisoned with Knock Out, further muddling the issue.
*The AllSpark was introduced to the [[Aligned continuity family]] in the novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'', where it was launched from Cybertron during the war. The novel concluded with the Autobots' picking up its signal after departing Cybertron—an obvious allusion to a [[live-action film series|live-action movie]]-style journey to [[Earth]] in search of it—but this was dropped for the sequel ''[[Transformers: Exiles|Exiles]]'', and nobody but Optimus seems to remember much about the whole affair here (likely as a means to better explain it to the audiences who didn't read the novels).
*Knock Out was locked up after being decked by [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|Miko]] in "[[Deadlock]]".
*Knock Out gets payback on Smokescreen by sticking him in a wall with the Phase Shifter in an identical position to his own wall-imprisonment in "[[Inside Job]]".
*Knock Out destroys the [[Immobilizer]], which was introduced in "[[Partners]]", by knocking Starscream out with it.
*Smokescreen mentions that he almost became a Prime, which occurred in "[[Rebellion (Prime)|Rebellion]]".
*Predaking [[Minus One|takes Megatron's advice]] and faces his true enemy [[Synthesis|as a beast]]!

===Transformers references===
*Megatron's resurrection and subsequent travel into space recalls a similar scene from Revenge of the Fallen.
*Lord Smokescreen, [[Emperor of Destruction]]!
*Unicron calls his new form an [[Instruments of Destruction|Instrument of Destruction]].
*Optimus brings new life to Cybertron by jumping into a pit that leads to the core of the planet and committing suicide. Why does that sound [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|familiar]]?

===Real-world references===
*The laying of a sword on the shoulders as Optimus does with Bumblebee during the warrior ceremony is from the investiture ceremony used when someone is knighted.

===Trivia===
*Oddly, TVGuide's listing for this movie is split into [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-14-season-3/chaos-rising-part-1/308171 three] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-15-season-3/chaos-rising-part-2/308171 part] [http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-prime-beast-hunters-2013/episode-16-season-3/chaos-rising-part-3/308171 episodes] incorrectly (yet still more appropriately) titled "Chaos Rising".
*''Predacons Rising'' is a [[The Hub|Hub]] Original Family Movie, concluding the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' cartoon.
*The [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] is used by Optimus to promote Bumblebee, and is never seen again in the rest of the movie. It's never mentioned as being aboard the ''Nemesis'' like the other Iacon relics are, so Optimus must still have it. But if so, why didn't he use it against Unicron?
*The film was leaked online a few weeks before its airdate.

===Foreign localization===

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And please do not blank your talk page. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:59, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

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Don't do it. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:01, 2 June 2013 (EDT)

Pickup Decepticon

2013-10-12T16:24:27Z

SoundWave: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-nickname}}

[[Image:DOTMPickupDecepticon.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"[[Dropkick]]? Drop '''this'''!"]]

:''The pickup Decepticon is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]] portion of the [[live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

The "'''pickup Decepticon'''" transforms into a... pickup! He has many spikes on his body and likes to disintegrate humans.

==Fiction==
===''Dark of the Moon'' film===

The pickup Decepticon was presumably hidden on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], and came to [[Earth]] via the [[space bridge]] activated by [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]]. When Sentinel gave the command for the Decepticons to isolate [[Chicago]], a pickup that was on streets revealed itself to be a Decepticon and began to disintegrate everyone unfortunate enough to be standing around him. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
* Despite having an alternate mode, his robot mode doesn't present any part of the pickup that he transforms into, looking more a modified Decepticon protoform.
*The pickup Decepticon never appears after his brief scene during Chicago's invasion. What happens to him during the final battle is a mystery, though it is possible he was killed by [[NEST]] or the Autobots.
* He could be Dropkick, he was still active at this time.

[[Category:Dark of the Moon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Live-action-only characters]]

Nemesis Prime (G1)

2013-10-08T23:51:37Z

SoundWave: /* Transformers Legends */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|evil clones of Optimus Prime|the corrupted [[Dead Universe]] version of Nova Prime from the IDW comics|Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime}}

:''Nemesis Prime is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:AltNemesisPrimeArt.jpg|300px|thumb|Serpentor|THIS, I COMMAND!]]
'''Nemesis Prime''' is the dark mirror of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], a [[Cloning|clone]] of the [[Autobot]] leader imbued with many of his abilities but lacking all moral restraint.

==Fiction==
===''Alternators'' toy bio===
[[Doctor Arkeville]] spent years personally constructing Nemesis Prime piece by stolen piece, hiding his handiwork from both [[Concurrence]] agents and the Decepticons. Designed to be the ultimate military commander, he had arguably the mightiest [[Binaltech]] Transformer body ever constructed, but it remained without a life-force. Dr. Arkeville planned to acquire one by tapping into an amazingly powerful extra-spatial source that the Autobot Translink Project had uncovered. It is unknown whether this final step ever came to fruition.<ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=6142 Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio.] This was not on the toy's packaging, but rather distributed online to Transformers news sites to promote the figure's availability at San Diego Comic-Con. It was later confirmed to be the work of [[Hasbro]] copywriter Forest Lee.{{fact}}</ref>

{{note|This is the only known ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' fiction, aside from a brief blurb on a promotional Mazda website for the "RX-8 Transformer" (which was later released as [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Alternators|Meister]]) that summarized the initial backstory of the first chapter of the ''Binaltech'' story. While it is clearly based on the ''[[Binaltech]]'' storyline, borrowing elements with no precedent in English-language canon, it differs from ''Binaltech''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s "Black Convoy" bio in some details and may be considered a separate continuity. Also, since this bio was only made public through online retailers with access to Hasbro's promotional material library and [[Ben Yee]]'s review of the Nemesis Prime toy, it's hard to say if the bio was ever actually "officially" released, even though release had been fully intended.}}

===''Story of Binaltech''===
Dr. Arkeville, seeking to create an evil leader greater than [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], used a subspace impulse cloner to duplicate Optimus Prime (with a snazzy black-and-teal paint job). To this end, Arkeville twisted Prime's imported essence to evil with a rewriting program, but the clone still lacked life. He experimented with a subspace linkup to channel a life force, but the operation was interrupted: A time warp suddenly appeared and produced a [[Spark|mysterious orb]] which touched the clone body, causing the clone to both activate and vanish.

Meanwhile, on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], the Autobots were enacting [[Operation: Distant Thunder]] to undo the changes that [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] had wrought upon the timeline. The Autobots had just send a drone into the past with the intent of restoring the correct timeline, expecting reality to change around them, returning to its proper state. Instead, the successful restoration of the correct flow of history caused their alternate timeline to become undone, as all of their reality was torn apart by warp holes. At that moment, Arkeville's clone appeared before them, extending his hands as an orb of light engulfed first the island, then the entire world. The warp holes were extinguished, and the clone announced that it had used the power of the spark that now inhabited it to preserve the "Binal-Time" that the Autobots inhabited. The Autobots continued questioning this "Black Optimus", who explained that he was a spark who had been sent back in time from the distant future, referring to himself only as "the [[Optimus Primal|Protector]]". His mission was to preserve the Binaltechs, as their existence would, in the future, bring about the [[Alternity]], a "great existence" involving beings who would ensure prosperity and protection across the multiverse.

When these explanations were done, the clone's core AI suddenly asserted itself, and he began taunting the Autobots, even manifesting a Decepticon symbol on his body. Using what remained of the Protector's power, the clone rejected his foreign spark and formed a warp portal back to Arkeville's lab. Reduced to an automated state, the clone still was able to leap through the portal to its creator. There, the doctor initiated another subspace translink experiment, this one succeeding in connecting the clone to an ancient, evil, greedy life force. At last, Arkeville's creation became Nemesis Prime.{{storylink|Binal Time}}

What happened to Dr. Arkeville after that is unknown, but soon after activation, Nemesis Prime began to make his move. When Megatron's forces attacked the [[Earth Defense Command]] base on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]], Nemesis Prime appeared to block any further progress by the Decepticon leader, refusing to let him dominate Earth's solar system, which Nemesis Prime desired for himself. Megatron was disgusted that an Earth-born machine would wear the Decepticon [[insignia]], but just as they were about to battle, across the galaxy, on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] accomplished his mission to activate the [[Quintesson]]-created [[Large switch|killswitch]], deactivating all non-Binaltech Transformers. Megatron was frozen, and Nemesis Prime calmly seized the opportunity to take power, ordering Shockwave to gather as many Decepticon bodies as possible. Seeing the logic in this order, Shockwave complied. Nemesis Prime sat on Megatron's throne and plotted future moves. {{storylink|Kill Switch}}

Seeking to make himself a true match for Optimus Prime, Nemesis Prime schemed to create an artificial [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] by using a device to wrench minds from their bodies and combine them in a crystalline storage unit. Attempting a test run in a human settlement in [[Australia]], Nemesis Prime was thwarted by a contingent of Autobots led by Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. The two Primes went one-on-one during the ensuing battle, but when Optimus was sent tumbling into a riverbank, the Protector's spark flew to his aid and fused with him, lending Prime its power. Supercharged by the power of the Protector's spark, Optimus absorbed Nemesis Prime's next attack and redirected it upon his dark twin, who was engulfed and finally destroyed as his body exploded into shards. {{storylink|Unfinished Business, Part 4}}

===''Universe Classic Series'' toy bio===
[[File:NemesisPrimebox.jpg|150px|thumb|"They'll never guess I'm evil."]]
Nemesis Prime was the product of a mad plan by [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], who put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. This, however, cost him not just his sense of identity, but also any framework with which to process this knowledge. His creator having since perished, Nemesis Prime became a threat to all, skulking in the dark parts of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and targeting both Autobots and Decepticons in his murderous insanity.<ref>[http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&ST=SO&ID=22380&PG=1 ''Universe Classic Series'' Nemesis Prime's on-package bio]</ref>
{{--}}

===''Masterpiece'' toy bio===
Though marked as a Decepticon, the clone Nemesis Prime holds allegiance only to his creator, Unicron. His very nature is destrcution. His only purpose is to return his master to life. <ref>[http://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/toyarchive/masterpiece/mp10bblackconvoy.html Translation of MP-10B's toy bio]</ref>

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Nemesis Prime was constructed from scrap and stolen parts by [[Doctor Arkeville]] in an attempt to create a robot rivaling Optimus Prime. The uncontrolled fury of the creation resulted in it getting loose and going on a rampage that was only stopped by the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]]. Nemesis Prime was forced into a retreat. {{storylink|Nemesis Rising}} [[File:Episode Nemesis Prime bot.jpeg|150px|thumb|"My weapons could even beat Optimus!"]]

==Toys==
===Alternators===
[[File:AltNemesisPrime toy.jpg|300px|thumb|In Australia, I'm a shelf-warmer.]]
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (2006)
**''Alternators ID number:'' '''24'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Nemesis Prime is a [[Black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]/[[Transformers: Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with red translucent windows and blue paint detail. Like Optimus, he transforms into a Dodge Ram SRT-10 at 1:24 scale, with opening doors, hood, and tailgate, plus an open passenger compartment. His engine transforms into a handgun.

: He was initially sold [[exclusive]]ly at San Diego Comic-Con 2006 and for a limited time at Hasbro Toy Shop, selling out roughly an hour after its 2pm sales debut. Prior to that, he was released in large quantities at regular retail in various Asian countries, becoming a [[shelfwarmer]] there, ironically.

: Later, he was offered in Australia through online stores. A few weeks later he showed up in massive numbers in the Australian retail store Toy World for half the price.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/NemesisPrime/nemesisprime.htm More information on Nemesis Prime at TFU.info]''

{{-}}
===Binaltech===
[[File:BTBlackConvoy toy.jpg|300px|thumb|I am the evil clone of an evil clone! How do you beat this?]]
* '''Black Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-17'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Black Convoy is the first ''Binaltech'' release since [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] in early 2006, and was available exclusively in Japan at the winter Wonder Festival in 2007. His plastic colours are different from Nemesis Prime's, with grey plastic replacing the black on his shins, waist, shoulders and forearms. In addition, Nemesis Prime's windows are tinted red, but Black Convoy's windows are completely clear. His paint deco is based upon ''Kiss Players'' Convoy's, arranged in the same patterns but using teal, and he has vacuum-metallized wheels and front grill. The paint deco on his head is meant to evoke that of Car Robots [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]. Perhaps the most important differences are that he has die-cast metal parts, and most of his truck body panels are coated in gloss black paint.

: Perhaps due to cost-cutting, this toy was released in the large bubble-on-a-tray packaging also used in the ''Alternators'' line. However, he came with no character or packaging art.

: This figure was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] into a new body for [[Optimus Primal]] in the ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' fiction.

{{-}}

===Universe (2008)===
[[File:Nemesisprimesdcc08.jpg|300px|thumb|Straxus died before he could finish my trailer.]]
*'''Nemesis Prime''' (Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 smokestacks/"Stellar Converter Cannon", wind vane/"Disruptor Cannon"

: Nemesis Prime is a redeco of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Optimus Prime, transforming into a modern cab-over style truck of made up model, dominated by a large aero fairing on his roof. Premiering as a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2008 [[exclusive]], it later saw wider release via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] as part of the Classics Series of the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' toyline. He was not designed to pull a trailer, and subsequently does not come with one. The figure largely follows the same paint application map as the original figure, with some minor omissions as well as new paint applications. As well, it features metallic purple and silver [[tampograph]]s of the Decepticon symbol on its forearm and shoulder, as well as red paint blocking the [[light-piping]] feature in the figure's head.

:In robot mode, his aero fairing transforms into a large "Disruptor Cannon", and his smokestacks transform into a smaller "Stellar Converter Cannon". Additionally, both can combine together to form a back-mounted shoulder weapon.

: This mold was also used to make ''Classics'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the evil "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]. In fact, counting the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[redeco]]s, this is the '''sixth''' version of this mold released within two years. You milk those [[completist]]s, [[Hasbro]]/[[TakaraTomy]], you milk 'em ''good''.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/SDCCNemesisPrime/nemesisprime.htm More information on ''Universe'' Nemesis Prime at tfu.info.]''

{{-}}

===Masterpiece===
[[File:MP10 Black Convoy Official.jpg|200px|thumb|right|"Do you know what 'nemesis' means...?"]]
*'''Black Convoy''' (2013)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-10B'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Ion blaster#mp10|laser blaster]], [[Energon-axe|battle axe]], [[Dead Matrix]]
: Black Convoy is a black repaint of MP-10 Convoy. It showcases the typical black/grey/teal color scheme with red windows. This version does not come with a trailer, like [[Eldedroid|Convoy Black Version]]. It does include what the instructions call a "laser blaster" and a "battle axe" (a red version of MP-10's Energon-axe). Additionally featured is the Dead Matrix, which is silver and dark grey with a red core.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Titanium Series===
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (3" Robot Masters)
**''Accessories:'' Ion Blaster, display stand

:Had it been released, this toy would have been a repaint of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|''War Within'' Optimus Prime]]. His unpublished bio described a character much like the ''Universe'' version mentioned above, but without reference to Straxus or any type of origin story. As a redeco of a War Within toy, this Nemesis would presumably—but not necessarily—have been part of the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|comics continuity]].

{{canceledtoy}}

==Notes==
*[[Forest Lee|The author of Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio]] has said that the "extra-spatial source" that Arkeville tapped into was actually a pocket dimension that served as [[Unicron]]'s power battery—and that Unicron gave Arkeville exactly what he wanted, in the form of a [[spark]] fragment from Unicron's [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|own attempt at cloning an Optimus Prime]].{{fact}}
*Nemesis Prime's ''Universe'' bio seems directly inspired by the Marvel UK "[[Two Megatrons!]]" storyline, which revealed that Straxus had rebuilt a "[[hapless trooper]]" into a Megatron clone, complete with copied brain patterns. Unlike Nemesis Prime, however, this clone became a repository for Straxus' consciousness after Straxus' botched attempt to invade the original Megatron's mind.
*According to [[Hasbro]] copy writer [[Forest Lee]], this reference to Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 Nemesis Prime's bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy.
*Stellar Converter Cannons are also weapons found on the [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]] [[Primus]] toy.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Black Convoy''' (ブラックコンボイ ''Burakku Konboi'')

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Alternators Decepticons]]
[[Category:Classics Decepticons]]
[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Evil clones]]
[[Category:Exclusives]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]

Nemesis Prime (G1)

2013-10-08T23:45:20Z

SoundWave: /* Transformers Legends */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|evil clones of Optimus Prime|the corrupted [[Dead Universe]] version of Nova Prime from the IDW comics|Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime}}

:''Nemesis Prime is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:AltNemesisPrimeArt.jpg|300px|thumb|Serpentor|THIS, I COMMAND!]]
'''Nemesis Prime''' is the dark mirror of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], a [[Cloning|clone]] of the [[Autobot]] leader imbued with many of his abilities but lacking all moral restraint.

==Fiction==
===''Alternators'' toy bio===
[[Doctor Arkeville]] spent years personally constructing Nemesis Prime piece by stolen piece, hiding his handiwork from both [[Concurrence]] agents and the Decepticons. Designed to be the ultimate military commander, he had arguably the mightiest [[Binaltech]] Transformer body ever constructed, but it remained without a life-force. Dr. Arkeville planned to acquire one by tapping into an amazingly powerful extra-spatial source that the Autobot Translink Project had uncovered. It is unknown whether this final step ever came to fruition.<ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=6142 Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio.] This was not on the toy's packaging, but rather distributed online to Transformers news sites to promote the figure's availability at San Diego Comic-Con. It was later confirmed to be the work of [[Hasbro]] copywriter Forest Lee.{{fact}}</ref>

{{note|This is the only known ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' fiction, aside from a brief blurb on a promotional Mazda website for the "RX-8 Transformer" (which was later released as [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Alternators|Meister]]) that summarized the initial backstory of the first chapter of the ''Binaltech'' story. While it is clearly based on the ''[[Binaltech]]'' storyline, borrowing elements with no precedent in English-language canon, it differs from ''Binaltech''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s "Black Convoy" bio in some details and may be considered a separate continuity. Also, since this bio was only made public through online retailers with access to Hasbro's promotional material library and [[Ben Yee]]'s review of the Nemesis Prime toy, it's hard to say if the bio was ever actually "officially" released, even though release had been fully intended.}}

===''Story of Binaltech''===
Dr. Arkeville, seeking to create an evil leader greater than [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], used a subspace impulse cloner to duplicate Optimus Prime (with a snazzy black-and-teal paint job). To this end, Arkeville twisted Prime's imported essence to evil with a rewriting program, but the clone still lacked life. He experimented with a subspace linkup to channel a life force, but the operation was interrupted: A time warp suddenly appeared and produced a [[Spark|mysterious orb]] which touched the clone body, causing the clone to both activate and vanish.

Meanwhile, on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], the Autobots were enacting [[Operation: Distant Thunder]] to undo the changes that [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] had wrought upon the timeline. The Autobots had just send a drone into the past with the intent of restoring the correct timeline, expecting reality to change around them, returning to its proper state. Instead, the successful restoration of the correct flow of history caused their alternate timeline to become undone, as all of their reality was torn apart by warp holes. At that moment, Arkeville's clone appeared before them, extending his hands as an orb of light engulfed first the island, then the entire world. The warp holes were extinguished, and the clone announced that it had used the power of the spark that now inhabited it to preserve the "Binal-Time" that the Autobots inhabited. The Autobots continued questioning this "Black Optimus", who explained that he was a spark who had been sent back in time from the distant future, referring to himself only as "the [[Optimus Primal|Protector]]". His mission was to preserve the Binaltechs, as their existence would, in the future, bring about the [[Alternity]], a "great existence" involving beings who would ensure prosperity and protection across the multiverse.

When these explanations were done, the clone's core AI suddenly asserted itself, and he began taunting the Autobots, even manifesting a Decepticon symbol on his body. Using what remained of the Protector's power, the clone rejected his foreign spark and formed a warp portal back to Arkeville's lab. Reduced to an automated state, the clone still was able to leap through the portal to its creator. There, the doctor initiated another subspace translink experiment, this one succeeding in connecting the clone to an ancient, evil, greedy life force. At last, Arkeville's creation became Nemesis Prime.{{storylink|Binal Time}}

What happened to Dr. Arkeville after that is unknown, but soon after activation, Nemesis Prime began to make his move. When Megatron's forces attacked the [[Earth Defense Command]] base on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]], Nemesis Prime appeared to block any further progress by the Decepticon leader, refusing to let him dominate Earth's solar system, which Nemesis Prime desired for himself. Megatron was disgusted that an Earth-born machine would wear the Decepticon [[insignia]], but just as they were about to battle, across the galaxy, on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] accomplished his mission to activate the [[Quintesson]]-created [[Large switch|killswitch]], deactivating all non-Binaltech Transformers. Megatron was frozen, and Nemesis Prime calmly seized the opportunity to take power, ordering Shockwave to gather as many Decepticon bodies as possible. Seeing the logic in this order, Shockwave complied. Nemesis Prime sat on Megatron's throne and plotted future moves. {{storylink|Kill Switch}}

Seeking to make himself a true match for Optimus Prime, Nemesis Prime schemed to create an artificial [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] by using a device to wrench minds from their bodies and combine them in a crystalline storage unit. Attempting a test run in a human settlement in [[Australia]], Nemesis Prime was thwarted by a contingent of Autobots led by Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. The two Primes went one-on-one during the ensuing battle, but when Optimus was sent tumbling into a riverbank, the Protector's spark flew to his aid and fused with him, lending Prime its power. Supercharged by the power of the Protector's spark, Optimus absorbed Nemesis Prime's next attack and redirected it upon his dark twin, who was engulfed and finally destroyed as his body exploded into shards. {{storylink|Unfinished Business, Part 4}}

===''Universe Classic Series'' toy bio===
[[File:NemesisPrimebox.jpg|150px|thumb|"They'll never guess I'm evil."]]
Nemesis Prime was the product of a mad plan by [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], who put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. This, however, cost him not just his sense of identity, but also any framework with which to process this knowledge. His creator having since perished, Nemesis Prime became a threat to all, skulking in the dark parts of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and targeting both Autobots and Decepticons in his murderous insanity.<ref>[http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&ST=SO&ID=22380&PG=1 ''Universe Classic Series'' Nemesis Prime's on-package bio]</ref>
{{--}}

===''Masterpiece'' toy bio===
Though marked as a Decepticon, the clone Nemesis Prime holds allegiance only to his creator, Unicron. His very nature is destrcution. His only purpose is to return his master to life. <ref>[http://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/toyarchive/masterpiece/mp10bblackconvoy.html Translation of MP-10B's toy bio]</ref>

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Nemesis Prime was constructed from scrap and stolen parts by [[Doctor Arkeville]] in an attempt to create a robot rivaling Optimus Prime. The uncontrolled fury of the creation resulted in it getting loose and going on a rampage that was only stopped by the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]]. Nemesis Prime was forced into a retreat. {{storylink|Nemesis Rising}} [[File:Episode Nemesis Prime bot.jpeg]]

==Toys==
===Alternators===
[[File:AltNemesisPrime toy.jpg|300px|thumb|In Australia, I'm a shelf-warmer.]]
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (2006)
**''Alternators ID number:'' '''24'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Nemesis Prime is a [[Black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]/[[Transformers: Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with red translucent windows and blue paint detail. Like Optimus, he transforms into a Dodge Ram SRT-10 at 1:24 scale, with opening doors, hood, and tailgate, plus an open passenger compartment. His engine transforms into a handgun.

: He was initially sold [[exclusive]]ly at San Diego Comic-Con 2006 and for a limited time at Hasbro Toy Shop, selling out roughly an hour after its 2pm sales debut. Prior to that, he was released in large quantities at regular retail in various Asian countries, becoming a [[shelfwarmer]] there, ironically.

: Later, he was offered in Australia through online stores. A few weeks later he showed up in massive numbers in the Australian retail store Toy World for half the price.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/NemesisPrime/nemesisprime.htm More information on Nemesis Prime at TFU.info]''

{{-}}
===Binaltech===
[[File:BTBlackConvoy toy.jpg|300px|thumb|I am the evil clone of an evil clone! How do you beat this?]]
* '''Black Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-17'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Black Convoy is the first ''Binaltech'' release since [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] in early 2006, and was available exclusively in Japan at the winter Wonder Festival in 2007. His plastic colours are different from Nemesis Prime's, with grey plastic replacing the black on his shins, waist, shoulders and forearms. In addition, Nemesis Prime's windows are tinted red, but Black Convoy's windows are completely clear. His paint deco is based upon ''Kiss Players'' Convoy's, arranged in the same patterns but using teal, and he has vacuum-metallized wheels and front grill. The paint deco on his head is meant to evoke that of Car Robots [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]. Perhaps the most important differences are that he has die-cast metal parts, and most of his truck body panels are coated in gloss black paint.

: Perhaps due to cost-cutting, this toy was released in the large bubble-on-a-tray packaging also used in the ''Alternators'' line. However, he came with no character or packaging art.

: This figure was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] into a new body for [[Optimus Primal]] in the ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' fiction.

{{-}}

===Universe (2008)===
[[File:Nemesisprimesdcc08.jpg|300px|thumb|Straxus died before he could finish my trailer.]]
*'''Nemesis Prime''' (Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 smokestacks/"Stellar Converter Cannon", wind vane/"Disruptor Cannon"

: Nemesis Prime is a redeco of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Optimus Prime, transforming into a modern cab-over style truck of made up model, dominated by a large aero fairing on his roof. Premiering as a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2008 [[exclusive]], it later saw wider release via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] as part of the Classics Series of the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' toyline. He was not designed to pull a trailer, and subsequently does not come with one. The figure largely follows the same paint application map as the original figure, with some minor omissions as well as new paint applications. As well, it features metallic purple and silver [[tampograph]]s of the Decepticon symbol on its forearm and shoulder, as well as red paint blocking the [[light-piping]] feature in the figure's head.

:In robot mode, his aero fairing transforms into a large "Disruptor Cannon", and his smokestacks transform into a smaller "Stellar Converter Cannon". Additionally, both can combine together to form a back-mounted shoulder weapon.

: This mold was also used to make ''Classics'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the evil "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]. In fact, counting the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[redeco]]s, this is the '''sixth''' version of this mold released within two years. You milk those [[completist]]s, [[Hasbro]]/[[TakaraTomy]], you milk 'em ''good''.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/SDCCNemesisPrime/nemesisprime.htm More information on ''Universe'' Nemesis Prime at tfu.info.]''

{{-}}

===Masterpiece===
[[File:MP10 Black Convoy Official.jpg|200px|thumb|right|"Do you know what 'nemesis' means...?"]]
*'''Black Convoy''' (2013)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-10B'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Ion blaster#mp10|laser blaster]], [[Energon-axe|battle axe]], [[Dead Matrix]]
: Black Convoy is a black repaint of MP-10 Convoy. It showcases the typical black/grey/teal color scheme with red windows. This version does not come with a trailer, like [[Eldedroid|Convoy Black Version]]. It does include what the instructions call a "laser blaster" and a "battle axe" (a red version of MP-10's Energon-axe). Additionally featured is the Dead Matrix, which is silver and dark grey with a red core.

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==Merchandise==
===Titanium Series===
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (3" Robot Masters)
**''Accessories:'' Ion Blaster, display stand

:Had it been released, this toy would have been a repaint of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|''War Within'' Optimus Prime]]. His unpublished bio described a character much like the ''Universe'' version mentioned above, but without reference to Straxus or any type of origin story. As a redeco of a War Within toy, this Nemesis would presumably—but not necessarily—have been part of the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|comics continuity]].

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==Notes==
*[[Forest Lee|The author of Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio]] has said that the "extra-spatial source" that Arkeville tapped into was actually a pocket dimension that served as [[Unicron]]'s power battery—and that Unicron gave Arkeville exactly what he wanted, in the form of a [[spark]] fragment from Unicron's [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|own attempt at cloning an Optimus Prime]].{{fact}}
*Nemesis Prime's ''Universe'' bio seems directly inspired by the Marvel UK "[[Two Megatrons!]]" storyline, which revealed that Straxus had rebuilt a "[[hapless trooper]]" into a Megatron clone, complete with copied brain patterns. Unlike Nemesis Prime, however, this clone became a repository for Straxus' consciousness after Straxus' botched attempt to invade the original Megatron's mind.
*According to [[Hasbro]] copy writer [[Forest Lee]], this reference to Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 Nemesis Prime's bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy.
*Stellar Converter Cannons are also weapons found on the [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]] [[Primus]] toy.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Black Convoy''' (ブラックコンボイ ''Burakku Konboi'')

==References==
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==Alternators==
So, does the japanese version of it contain Die Cast or not?
: Well, in a few months when you can buy one, let us know! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

==Nit pick==
Nit-picky: I don't think he becomes Nemesis Prime/Black Convoy until the spark is put in him. Therefore, "Now, as Nemesis Prime, he returned to Arkeville's lair," wouldn't be true. Actually, the story explicitly stated he is under the control of AI programming, and was only named ''after'' Arkeville connected him to the evil life force. But, like I said, that's a nit pick.

What I really don't like is calling that other guy Vector Prime. For me, it's too great a leap. Just my thoughts. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 21:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

==War Within origin?==
If this [[ Generation 1|G1 ]] Nemesis Prime is [[ Dr. Arkeville|man ]]-made, what about "[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]" Nemesis Prime from the [[Titanium Series]]?--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Having never seen the packaging and bio, I couldn't speculate. However it's worth noting that Arkeville never appeared in Dreamwave continuity, and thus Dreamwave continuity is ''not'' Alternators continuity. In other words, a "War Within" Nemesis Prime would be solidly in the Dreamwave-verse, and thus have no bearing on Alternators.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 21:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

::Sunstorm and Ricochet are clones in Dreamwave continuity, and not in others. Thus it's difficult to say what kind of status a Dreamwave Nemesis Prime would have based on his status in other continuities.
::If I had to ''guess'', I'd ssay they'd place him as part of Age of Wrath with all the other clones runnign around, so clone is likely, bu by no means assured. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Alternity ==

Translations of the "super-black" version of Alternity Convoy heavily imply that he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, as well as [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]]. Presumably this works out rather well, because the timeline that birthed the Alternity into the multiverse was the Binaltech one, which is also the one where Universe Nemesis Prime's spark got infused into Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:16, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:But, if he was created from a fragment of Uni Nemesis' cloned spark, that just makes him a clone whose spark was born from Uni Nemesis, rather than being the same individual. I mean, Uni Nemesis is a clone of a Prime from a destroyed universe...it's all rather head turning really [[User:Eire]] 21.29 July 21 (UTC)
::Uh... I know that we've seen instances of sparks being split in the past, but I'm blanking on where. (Dinobot II doesn't really count, he had external datatraxs.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:42, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Where are we getting that this is a fragment, not the whole spark?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:48, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Where are we getting anything that says Nemesis was born from having an entire spark transferred by Unicron? [[User:Eire]] 21.49 July 21 (UTC)
:::::What does that have to do with what I just asked? I mean, you seem to be assuming he's a clone of a clone, when that doesn't seem supported by the source material. The second spark within the Binaltech body could well have been Nemesis Prime's in full.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:01, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

The "fragment" bit is from the unsourced Forest Lee statement down in the trivia section of this page, which I believe he said at a BotCon? That's the only bit that specifically ties Binaltech (well, Alternators) Nemesis Prime to Universe Nemmy; the actual Binaltech story didn't draw so specfic a connection, but did imply Unicron's hand in the proceedings. As Eire says, he (BT Nemmy) doesn't seem to be ''precisely'' the same entity as Universe/Alternity NP. Nothing is actually leaping out at me from the translated story that explicitly hints he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Maaaaan, having two franchises called "Universe" can be damn confusing. Okay, so I've read [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/alternators-10/alternity-convoy-super-black-bio-168068/ a translation of ''Alternity'' Super-Black Convoy's bio,] and the only reference I'm getting out of that is to [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|2003-''Universe'' NP]]. I am seriously not at all seeing any implication, heavy or otherwise, that he's ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy or ''Alternators'' NP. Could someone please explain what I'm missing? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:35, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:Ichikawa wrote Binaltech, and the second spark that was housed in Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body was that of the 2003 Universe Nemesis Prime. Alternity is a continuation of Binaltech in many ways, and seems to be written by Ichikawa as well. [[Arch-Nemesis!/src|Our current translation]] Heavily parallels the events of Binaltech, and the eventual destruction of Binaltech Nemesis Prime.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:43, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::What is the evidence that ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy (I'm using the Japanese name to try to keep all these incarnations straight) got 2003-''Universe'' NP's spark? Reading [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg a translation of the story where that happens,] the source of BC's new life is vague in the extreme. I don't know where to find translations of his continued story, but this article's summary doesn't suggest anything more about his origin. I'm also not seeing how ''Alternity'' SBC's bio "heavily parallels" ''Binaltech'' BC's story. All it says is that he fought a fierce battle with the Cybertrons (I'm assuming that means "Autobots"?) and was defeated, which is pretty much what happened to 2003-''Universe'' NP too. Of course, I'm assuming that ''Binaltech'' didn't have a 900,000-year flash-forward... - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:56, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::To be more specific, Alternity Nemesis Prime's bio implies that he was specifically reformed in the same timeline that the Alternity originated from, the "BT World." This makes the Alternity bio kind of a missing link here, because we now have a clear timeline of Megazarak destroying the Optimus Prime of his world, Unicron rebuilding him and giving him the Dead Matrix, him being destroyed in the Unicron, his spark being harnessed by Arkeville, and then destroyed again in the Binaltech timeline and apparently rehabilitated in the span of time it took that universe to birth the Alternity. The 900,000 years figure is the same one mentioned in the other Alternity fiction.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:14, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::How does it imply that SBC came from the BT World? It starts out in an explicitly alternate universe (one that sounds not-coincidentally like the one 2003-''Universe'' NP came from), SBC loses a battle in a nonspecific place and time, and then he is "inducted into the Convoy collective 900,000 years in the future, where the Alternity is located." Since the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]] transcends universal streams, a character could come in contact with it from presumably anywhere in the multiverse. In fact, if the "Convoy collective" is referring to the [[Convoy Corps]], then you're saying that every one of those Convoys must have come from the BT World, which I thought was either in doubt or expressedly wrong. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:28, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I think [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg this] might need a re-translation. Just to make sure... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:05, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

== Alt/BT versus Classics ==
So we can agree that Alternators/Binaltech NP has some portion of Universe NP's spark, but they each have their own article on this wiki. Now, why would Classics NP be here on this article when his bio shares no connection at all to Alt/BT NP? It just seems funny that the two who share a spark are considered different characters, but Dr. Arkeville's clone and Straxus' twisted soldier are considered the same character. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 09:10, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:There had been a discussion about this some while back, but I think it got lost in the crash. The logic was, the ''Alternators''/''Binaltech'' character and the ''Universe Classic Series'' character are both evil black-and-teal Prime clones in the G1 continuity family, so they should share an article. Just as, for instance, IDW Galvatron is in the same article with (most of) the other G1 Galvies that came before him, despite his unique origin. The connection you're suggesting between ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy and 2003-''Universe'' NP is new to me. Does it have to do with the ''Alternity'' discussion up above? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:42, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, the first post of the above discussion mentions it. Also, the trivia sections of [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] and [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] mention it. It's the whole "Arkeville tapped into an extra-spatial source, which Forrest Lee says is Unicron, who gave Arkeville a piece of Universe NP's spark" thing. Thus, a connection between ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and 2003-''Universe'' NP. I wouldn't really consider then the same character, but in my mind, they share a stronger connection to each other than ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and ''Universe Classic Series'' NP. To counter your point about Galvatron, I present [[Galvatron II]]. -[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 17:53, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ah, I forgot about Forest's alleged comment. I'm.... not inclined to give much weight at all to unconfirmed hearsay about off-the-cuff author-commentary. Besides, the story of ''Alternators'' NP is somewhat different from ''Binaltech'' BC, so I'm not sure how to apply that even if it WAS canon. If that's the best evidence we have of any connection between 2003-''Universe'' NP and ''Alternators'' NP - and as far as I can tell, it is - then I don't think there's sufficient reason to change the articles around.
:::As for Galvy II, I don't see how the reason that that article exists pertains at all to this situation, nor how it invalidates the IDW-Galvy analogy.
:::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:05, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
::::In regards to the Nemesis Prime issue, I guess I concede. It just doesn't feel very good to me having two characters who have very different backgrounds on the same page, but I guess there's a bunch of pages like that here. As for Galvatron, I was trying to say that Galvatron II has pretty much the same origin as Galvatron I, both are from a G1 universe, they're clearly based on the same character template, yet separate pages. I mean, if we're going to keep someone as different as IDW Galvatron on the Galvatron page, why does Galvatron II (who is so similar to Galvatron I by compariaon to IDW Galvatron), get his own page? Wait, I finally understand your first Galvatron analogy: two completely different characters who share the same page, just like Nemesis Prime (G1). Can you possibly understand my confusion? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I totally understand where you're coming from; the current setup does seem intuitively... off. But it actually does make sense, and I'm glad that I've been able to explain that clearly. For what it's worth, if any official material ever actually connects ''Binaltech'' BC with 2003-''Universe'' NP, then I'll be much more amenable to rearranging the articles.
:::::The logic behind Galvatron II as a separate article is actually the opposite of what's happening here: Because there are two versions of Galvy running around in the same comic series, each doing big stuff, any attempt to document both them in the same article would be confusing and unnecessarily difficult. Given that one of the Galvys even has a unique official name ("Galvatron II" shows up in ''The Ultimate Guide'' and some e-Hobby stuff), making a second article is clearly preferable.
:::::Meanwhile, IDW Galvy is lumped into the primary Galvatron article because he's in the same continuity family and has the same name, same general appearance, and same basic role as a character, but unlike Galvy II, he's safely confined to his own series. Splitting hairs on origins is a dangerous road to go down, since every incarnation of a given character is going to be somewhat different from the rest, and with so many variations within a continuity-family as sprawling as G1, we have to allow some give so everything doesn't end up a judgement call.
:::::At least, that's the status quo. I've actually [[Talk:Scorponok (G1)|argued for less "give" in certain cases]], but it seems that the wiki trends toward inclusion.
:::::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 12:07, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

== Move? ==

This article just got moved from [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] to [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime (Alternators)]] with a memo stating: <tt>None of the Nemesis Primes (Nemeses Prime?) in this article were actually in the G1 franchise, just Alternators/Binaltech, Universe, and arguably Classics.</tt>

... Alternators, Binaltech, Universe 2008 and Classics are ''all'' (G1) continuities. What you smokin'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:56, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:Not to mention that Classicsverse Nemesis Prime ''really'' doesn't belong here if this is to be the Alternators character.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:01, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Disambigs are by franchise of origin. The franchises that apply here are all part of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|G1 continuity family]], NOT the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]]. This character originated in ''Alternators'', then another version of the same essential dude appeared in ''Classics'' (via ''Universe''). They belong on the same page in the same way that IDW Galvatron belongs on [[Galvatron (G1)]] (as described above), disambiguated by the franchise-of-origin, which is ''Alternators''. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Except that (G1) was the most narrow parenthetical which applied to all the toys in that umbrella article. Seeing as it contained non Alternators characters who were wholly unrelated to Alternators, that was a very bad choice for a move. So at this point, splitting out Classicsverse Nemesis Prime was a necessity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:09, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::...oh for Christ's sake Jackpot, you just made it ''worse''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:10, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I'm assuming you mean the first undo. I don't know what went wrong with that; I've fixed to be fully back to the state before Derik started moving stuff around. And... here's the thing. The whole "most narrow parenthetical" logic is exactly what Jeysie was trying to suggest in that giant debate on parentheticals we had a while back, and not only did the mob shout her down, but her own experiments on the matter revealed that it opens up way too many cans of worms on all sorts of articles. The conclusion was that the job of a parenthetical is NOT to encapsulate the full scope of the character; it's to keep same-name articles separate based on a simple rule. The rule is franchise-of-origin, and NP never appeared under the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]], so there you go. Unless you're counting the unreleased ''Titatium'' toy as the G1 franchise... which I squint at because it was, y'know, never released, and even if it was, wouldn't it be [[War Within (franchise)|War Within]], not G1? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:27, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

I'd say the ideal thing is still to split out Classicsverse NP, if we're going to use this rationale. Then we can debate over whether Alternators/Binaltech NP should merge with Universe 2003 NP. It sidesteps the major issue with you moving the article to the Alternators parenthetical.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:42, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:I'm not... wholly against that idea, but I dislike it because I think that I've convincingly argued each of these points, and the only reason left to do things differently is that the logical result doesn't "feel" right to some people. JACKPOT HATES FEELINGS GRRARR. Also, having three separate NP articles will just make people think, "Hey, maybe we ''should'' combine the ''Alternators'' one with [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] to make things neater," which is another blow against reason. But, just because I dislike it, doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. It's not the worst outcome, and if a three-article solution makes everybody basically happy, then I won't put up a fight. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:03, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::I'm saying this mainly because moving to the Alternators parenthetical breaks the original premise of sticking all the G1 continuity family NPs together, which was why we originally ended up at this namespace. If we split that out and stick it at (G1) or at (Universe 2008), then we're on more solid footing and the debate can proceed without distractions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:06, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I hear what you're saying about the debate and distractions. I was hoping we could reach conclusions soon and that render that point moot, but I guess we'll see. As to your other point, though, changing the parenthetical doesn't actually affect the scope of the article. If it did, then we'd have to use titles like "Optimus Prime (UT)" instead of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)]]. I mean, in principle, YES, I'd ''love'' it if our parentheticals could more accurately reflect our article content, and I've long thought that the UT cases were a perfect example of how counterintuitive our system can be. But the problem is that continuity-families (which are the default basis of ALL of our articles, special exceptions aside) don't all have nice, straightforward, easily-abbreviated, well-recognized, official names. If they were all as clean as "UT", I'd be pushing for that as our parenthetical standard instead, big time. But until some new terms fall into our laps from heaven, the lesser of the evils is to live with the disconnect between continuity-family-based articles and franchise-of-origin-based parentheticals. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:32, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
I could be mature about this, but I'm not going to be, because
#I think you're being a fool
#You reverted my edits, which were inline with Merge templates that have been up for over a month.
#I'm cheezed by your bad behavior over at the Shattered Glass disambig vote.
#Even if you put all that aside, the move to "Nemesis Prime (Alternators)" was totally ass-tarded.

At some point int he future, Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark is purified and turned into a force for good. (I can't find a source for this offhand, but it's the one piee of backstory '''no one''' is debating, so let's just assume it's true for a moment.)
{{quote|A mysterious spark known only as the "Protector" emerged from the chronal chaos and possessed the body of Nemesis Prime created by Doctor Arkeville [...] Unfortunately, Nemesis Prime's programming soon overrode the Protector's spark, forcing it from his body|Alternators Nemesis Prime bio}}

In the "Alternity" timeline that resulted from all of Binaltech's time-monkeying, That spark travels back and possesses the evil body created by Dr. Archaeville, but is eventually forced out.

{{quote|With this crisis averted, the Autobots began focusing their efforts on the Protector, attempting to give him a Binaltech body, while also conducting the Timaeus Project at his direction to create the substance known as "Alternium", which would be important for the future he had foretold. [...] A strike by the Autobots prevented the [sparkless Nemesis Prime] from carrying out his horrible scheme, and during the final battle, the Protector merged with Optimus Prime, increasing his strength to the point that he was able to destroy Nemesis Prime.|Binaltech Nemesis Prime bio}}

The Autobots were workign on buildign a new body for the Protector's spark. Clearly the suceeded because...

{{quote|A native of the same universe that birthed the Alternity, Megatron had fallen into stasis lock during the conflicts which led to the Timaeus Project.|"[[To Mega Therion]]"}}
{{quote|[Megatron claimed] that Nemesis Prime has gone soft since joining the Alternity.|"[[Arch-Nemesis!]]"}}

The Megatron '''explicitly native to''' the Alternity continuity has clashed with Nemesis Prime since '''before'''' Nemesis Prime joined the multiple-body-across-diimensions-squad, ergo this is all so the NP of this universe. In case you thought there was room for ambiguity, "Arch-Nemesis!" explicitly identifies him as The Protector too.

One spark. Same guy. Single continuity. Continuous chain of events.

Unless you can come up with a '''really''' good argument why I shouldn't, I'm revering these articles back. You have 5 minutes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:59, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

:Um, Derik? The Protector is Optimus Primal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Really? Nemesis Prime has Optimus Primal's apark?
::I ask because of both Binaltech bios calling that spark "The Protector," and his alternity bio identifying him as "Protector E7" right off the bat.
::Please clarify this statement. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I... erm... what? Derik, I think you may have your wires crossed. The spark which comes back in time and possesses the lifeless Nemesis Prime body, and is then ejected from it, is Optimus Primal. This is implicitly stated in the final Binaltech story chapter, when the Protector's spark fuses with Optimus Prime, and Prime remembers the same thing happening in the past, when the Protector saved his life before (referencing "Optimal Situation"). Prime proceeds to drop the "seeds of the future" quote, and destroys Nemesis Prime (who by this stage has a spark of his own) by using Primal's patented energy-absorption-and-redirection move from ''Beast Machines''. And Alternity Nemesis Prime is NOT Protector E-7 - [[Elita Seven|THIS]] is Protector E-7, what appears to be Elita One's consciousness in a synthoid body. "Protector" is not an individual - is a title shared by multiple servants of the Alternity, of which Optimus Primal is just one. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:24, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::You are misreading, Derik. [[Elita Seven|Protector E-7]] is a separate character. There is more than one [[Protector]], and Optimus Primal was the one in Binaltech. He inhabited Nemesis Prime's body, but was later driven out and replaced by Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:22, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Ugh. '''Whatever'''. The point is he's dead and the matrix died with him!
::::It's the same continuity anyway. (Seriously, can I take a bat to whoever thought it was cute to have ''two'' mysterious time-traveling sparks with god-like benefactors, both skip backward-and-sidways-in-time to and posses the ''same'' goddamn body?)
::::Is this Forrest Lee's fault? >:( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:29, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::It's more Ichikawa's fault, but it gets kind of chicken and egg. It mostly looks like Ichikawa took the somewhat sparse bit that Lee wrote for Alternators Nemesis Prime, since it was an homage to Ichikawa's Binaltech work, and found a way to incorporate it into the ongoing Binaltech fiction he was writing. He then referenced it more definitely in the Alternity character's bio. Ain't Transformers fiction grandly inbred?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:43, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::But I don't want to beat up Ichikawa-kun! I want to beat up Forrest Lee! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:44, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well if you really wanted to I guess you could beat up Lee for homaging him, thus forcing him to homage Lee back.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:12, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

:Tick-tock. Quick question. I thought The Protector was believed to be either BW Primal or a counterpart of his? [[User:Eire]] 00.06 Aug 6 09 (UTC)

:I don't know what you mean by all the Protector stuff. All I'm seeing in your argument is that the ''Binaltech''-native ''Alternity'' Megatron said that NP had "gone soft since joining the Alternity." This ''could'' mean that they had clashed in the pre-''Alternity'' (and therefore ''Binaltech'') realm, but not necessarily. If I'm understanding this right, Megatron was nigh-omniscient at that point; he could've been well aware of how evil 2003-''Universe'' NP had been in his own universe (or the UT). Yeah, it ''sounds'' like cliched so-we-meet-again dialogue, but that's bringing your own interpretation into it. Even if they HAD met before, maybe Megatron had fought with 2003-''Universe'' NP at some point in his ascension. There are too many unknowns to base any conclusions off of. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:15, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==Dodge Ram Nemesis and Mammoth Nemesis==
Okay, I managed to dig up the specific quote from Forest Lee regarding the relationship between Alternators Nemesis Prime and Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime. This was relayed by a friend who was e-mailing him at the time.

:''My thought when I wrote that bio was that Arkeville tapped into this exta-dimensional power source without having a full understanding of what it was. If Binaltech is a continuation, it's probably of the original Marvel universe, right? So Arkeville might have thought he had hooked up with the Negative Zone or some similarly unpleasant place, when in fact he had connected to the pocket dimension that serves as Unicron's battery.''

:''Unicron basically fed Arkeville exactly what he needed (and maybe even somehow subtly directed Arkeville's hand during the entire construction of N. Prime), which is basically a Spark fragment or whatever from his own work at cloning Optimus Prime (which ended with the creation of Universe Nemesis Prime).''

:''So Arkeville thinks he's got his own private well of power from which to potentially build an army of Transformer soldiers, when in reality what he's doing is empowering a soldier for Unicron.''

With this in mind {{m-}} ignoring Forest's notion that Binaltech was a continuation of the Marvel comics continuity {{m-}} it does not seem that the two Nemesis Primes were meant to be the same character, just that their origins were related (after a fashion). Ergo, I feel that the two separate pages, as currently written, are how they should remain. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:43, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:Awesome, thank you for the info. Whichever way it turns out, it's just good to get the facts straight. Do you know which was written first, Lee's bio or Ichikawa's? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

==Stellar Converter==
Since the reason given for the removal was invalid (it was removed for not being a reference, but it wasn't part of the references section) I reverted it. If there is a real problem please contact me. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 08:30, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:The reason is, it has nothing to do with anything. I could add that Nemesis was the baddie from ''Robotix'' and it would have just as much place on this page. The fact that his gun shares its name with something else is not notable and shouldn't be included in the article unless it was a deliberate reference. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:32, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== Nemesis Prime no Nippon doko? ==

Whetever happened to the Japanese exclusive (Wonderfest? Winterfest?) Classics mold that was suppposed to have red translucent parts instead of blue? Is this fig still pending, cancelled, or is it a different Nemesis Prime? In general, Nemesi Prime navigation is a bit difficult. Some of these toys could use ''mold'' disambig pages, as opposed to; or rather, in addition to, character disambigs. This is a ''Prime'' (cough) example of the toy being less complicated than the bot who is distinguished from his identical counterpart from the universe that turns out to be the same universe in the first place, who later travels to the future from the future, and posessess himself. Causality be damned. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 15:41, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

==Main Picture==
How about changing the main pic to his Transformers Legends appearance, it's much cooler looking and seems more appropriate for a "G1" article. The current one seems rather bland and dosen't really contrast with Optimus G1. (I would have changed it myself, but I don't know how. ) [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:23, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:The Alternator's picture is his first body, so it's staying. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:25, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:: Could we at least add it in the Legends section? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:28, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Yes, you can add it too the Legends section. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:31, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:::For completeness, make sure to include his alt mode. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 19:33, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Could someone link me to a page that explains how to upload a picture? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:36, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

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==Alternators==
So, does the japanese version of it contain Die Cast or not?
: Well, in a few months when you can buy one, let us know! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

==Nit pick==
Nit-picky: I don't think he becomes Nemesis Prime/Black Convoy until the spark is put in him. Therefore, "Now, as Nemesis Prime, he returned to Arkeville's lair," wouldn't be true. Actually, the story explicitly stated he is under the control of AI programming, and was only named ''after'' Arkeville connected him to the evil life force. But, like I said, that's a nit pick.

What I really don't like is calling that other guy Vector Prime. For me, it's too great a leap. Just my thoughts. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 21:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

==War Within origin?==
If this [[ Generation 1|G1 ]] Nemesis Prime is [[ Dr. Arkeville|man ]]-made, what about "[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]" Nemesis Prime from the [[Titanium Series]]?--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Having never seen the packaging and bio, I couldn't speculate. However it's worth noting that Arkeville never appeared in Dreamwave continuity, and thus Dreamwave continuity is ''not'' Alternators continuity. In other words, a "War Within" Nemesis Prime would be solidly in the Dreamwave-verse, and thus have no bearing on Alternators.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 21:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

::Sunstorm and Ricochet are clones in Dreamwave continuity, and not in others. Thus it's difficult to say what kind of status a Dreamwave Nemesis Prime would have based on his status in other continuities.
::If I had to ''guess'', I'd ssay they'd place him as part of Age of Wrath with all the other clones runnign around, so clone is likely, bu by no means assured. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Alternity ==

Translations of the "super-black" version of Alternity Convoy heavily imply that he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, as well as [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]]. Presumably this works out rather well, because the timeline that birthed the Alternity into the multiverse was the Binaltech one, which is also the one where Universe Nemesis Prime's spark got infused into Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:16, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:But, if he was created from a fragment of Uni Nemesis' cloned spark, that just makes him a clone whose spark was born from Uni Nemesis, rather than being the same individual. I mean, Uni Nemesis is a clone of a Prime from a destroyed universe...it's all rather head turning really [[User:Eire]] 21.29 July 21 (UTC)
::Uh... I know that we've seen instances of sparks being split in the past, but I'm blanking on where. (Dinobot II doesn't really count, he had external datatraxs.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:42, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Where are we getting that this is a fragment, not the whole spark?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:48, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Where are we getting anything that says Nemesis was born from having an entire spark transferred by Unicron? [[User:Eire]] 21.49 July 21 (UTC)
:::::What does that have to do with what I just asked? I mean, you seem to be assuming he's a clone of a clone, when that doesn't seem supported by the source material. The second spark within the Binaltech body could well have been Nemesis Prime's in full.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:01, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

The "fragment" bit is from the unsourced Forest Lee statement down in the trivia section of this page, which I believe he said at a BotCon? That's the only bit that specifically ties Binaltech (well, Alternators) Nemesis Prime to Universe Nemmy; the actual Binaltech story didn't draw so specfic a connection, but did imply Unicron's hand in the proceedings. As Eire says, he (BT Nemmy) doesn't seem to be ''precisely'' the same entity as Universe/Alternity NP. Nothing is actually leaping out at me from the translated story that explicitly hints he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Maaaaan, having two franchises called "Universe" can be damn confusing. Okay, so I've read [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/alternators-10/alternity-convoy-super-black-bio-168068/ a translation of ''Alternity'' Super-Black Convoy's bio,] and the only reference I'm getting out of that is to [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|2003-''Universe'' NP]]. I am seriously not at all seeing any implication, heavy or otherwise, that he's ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy or ''Alternators'' NP. Could someone please explain what I'm missing? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:35, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:Ichikawa wrote Binaltech, and the second spark that was housed in Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body was that of the 2003 Universe Nemesis Prime. Alternity is a continuation of Binaltech in many ways, and seems to be written by Ichikawa as well. [[Arch-Nemesis!/src|Our current translation]] Heavily parallels the events of Binaltech, and the eventual destruction of Binaltech Nemesis Prime.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:43, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::What is the evidence that ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy (I'm using the Japanese name to try to keep all these incarnations straight) got 2003-''Universe'' NP's spark? Reading [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg a translation of the story where that happens,] the source of BC's new life is vague in the extreme. I don't know where to find translations of his continued story, but this article's summary doesn't suggest anything more about his origin. I'm also not seeing how ''Alternity'' SBC's bio "heavily parallels" ''Binaltech'' BC's story. All it says is that he fought a fierce battle with the Cybertrons (I'm assuming that means "Autobots"?) and was defeated, which is pretty much what happened to 2003-''Universe'' NP too. Of course, I'm assuming that ''Binaltech'' didn't have a 900,000-year flash-forward... - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:56, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::To be more specific, Alternity Nemesis Prime's bio implies that he was specifically reformed in the same timeline that the Alternity originated from, the "BT World." This makes the Alternity bio kind of a missing link here, because we now have a clear timeline of Megazarak destroying the Optimus Prime of his world, Unicron rebuilding him and giving him the Dead Matrix, him being destroyed in the Unicron, his spark being harnessed by Arkeville, and then destroyed again in the Binaltech timeline and apparently rehabilitated in the span of time it took that universe to birth the Alternity. The 900,000 years figure is the same one mentioned in the other Alternity fiction.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:14, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::How does it imply that SBC came from the BT World? It starts out in an explicitly alternate universe (one that sounds not-coincidentally like the one 2003-''Universe'' NP came from), SBC loses a battle in a nonspecific place and time, and then he is "inducted into the Convoy collective 900,000 years in the future, where the Alternity is located." Since the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]] transcends universal streams, a character could come in contact with it from presumably anywhere in the multiverse. In fact, if the "Convoy collective" is referring to the [[Convoy Corps]], then you're saying that every one of those Convoys must have come from the BT World, which I thought was either in doubt or expressedly wrong. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:28, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I think [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg this] might need a re-translation. Just to make sure... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:05, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

== Alt/BT versus Classics ==
So we can agree that Alternators/Binaltech NP has some portion of Universe NP's spark, but they each have their own article on this wiki. Now, why would Classics NP be here on this article when his bio shares no connection at all to Alt/BT NP? It just seems funny that the two who share a spark are considered different characters, but Dr. Arkeville's clone and Straxus' twisted soldier are considered the same character. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 09:10, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:There had been a discussion about this some while back, but I think it got lost in the crash. The logic was, the ''Alternators''/''Binaltech'' character and the ''Universe Classic Series'' character are both evil black-and-teal Prime clones in the G1 continuity family, so they should share an article. Just as, for instance, IDW Galvatron is in the same article with (most of) the other G1 Galvies that came before him, despite his unique origin. The connection you're suggesting between ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy and 2003-''Universe'' NP is new to me. Does it have to do with the ''Alternity'' discussion up above? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:42, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, the first post of the above discussion mentions it. Also, the trivia sections of [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] and [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] mention it. It's the whole "Arkeville tapped into an extra-spatial source, which Forrest Lee says is Unicron, who gave Arkeville a piece of Universe NP's spark" thing. Thus, a connection between ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and 2003-''Universe'' NP. I wouldn't really consider then the same character, but in my mind, they share a stronger connection to each other than ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and ''Universe Classic Series'' NP. To counter your point about Galvatron, I present [[Galvatron II]]. -[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 17:53, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ah, I forgot about Forest's alleged comment. I'm.... not inclined to give much weight at all to unconfirmed hearsay about off-the-cuff author-commentary. Besides, the story of ''Alternators'' NP is somewhat different from ''Binaltech'' BC, so I'm not sure how to apply that even if it WAS canon. If that's the best evidence we have of any connection between 2003-''Universe'' NP and ''Alternators'' NP - and as far as I can tell, it is - then I don't think there's sufficient reason to change the articles around.
:::As for Galvy II, I don't see how the reason that that article exists pertains at all to this situation, nor how it invalidates the IDW-Galvy analogy.
:::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:05, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
::::In regards to the Nemesis Prime issue, I guess I concede. It just doesn't feel very good to me having two characters who have very different backgrounds on the same page, but I guess there's a bunch of pages like that here. As for Galvatron, I was trying to say that Galvatron II has pretty much the same origin as Galvatron I, both are from a G1 universe, they're clearly based on the same character template, yet separate pages. I mean, if we're going to keep someone as different as IDW Galvatron on the Galvatron page, why does Galvatron II (who is so similar to Galvatron I by compariaon to IDW Galvatron), get his own page? Wait, I finally understand your first Galvatron analogy: two completely different characters who share the same page, just like Nemesis Prime (G1). Can you possibly understand my confusion? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I totally understand where you're coming from; the current setup does seem intuitively... off. But it actually does make sense, and I'm glad that I've been able to explain that clearly. For what it's worth, if any official material ever actually connects ''Binaltech'' BC with 2003-''Universe'' NP, then I'll be much more amenable to rearranging the articles.
:::::The logic behind Galvatron II as a separate article is actually the opposite of what's happening here: Because there are two versions of Galvy running around in the same comic series, each doing big stuff, any attempt to document both them in the same article would be confusing and unnecessarily difficult. Given that one of the Galvys even has a unique official name ("Galvatron II" shows up in ''The Ultimate Guide'' and some e-Hobby stuff), making a second article is clearly preferable.
:::::Meanwhile, IDW Galvy is lumped into the primary Galvatron article because he's in the same continuity family and has the same name, same general appearance, and same basic role as a character, but unlike Galvy II, he's safely confined to his own series. Splitting hairs on origins is a dangerous road to go down, since every incarnation of a given character is going to be somewhat different from the rest, and with so many variations within a continuity-family as sprawling as G1, we have to allow some give so everything doesn't end up a judgement call.
:::::At least, that's the status quo. I've actually [[Talk:Scorponok (G1)|argued for less "give" in certain cases]], but it seems that the wiki trends toward inclusion.
:::::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 12:07, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

== Move? ==

This article just got moved from [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] to [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime (Alternators)]] with a memo stating: <tt>None of the Nemesis Primes (Nemeses Prime?) in this article were actually in the G1 franchise, just Alternators/Binaltech, Universe, and arguably Classics.</tt>

... Alternators, Binaltech, Universe 2008 and Classics are ''all'' (G1) continuities. What you smokin'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:56, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:Not to mention that Classicsverse Nemesis Prime ''really'' doesn't belong here if this is to be the Alternators character.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:01, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Disambigs are by franchise of origin. The franchises that apply here are all part of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|G1 continuity family]], NOT the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]]. This character originated in ''Alternators'', then another version of the same essential dude appeared in ''Classics'' (via ''Universe''). They belong on the same page in the same way that IDW Galvatron belongs on [[Galvatron (G1)]] (as described above), disambiguated by the franchise-of-origin, which is ''Alternators''. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Except that (G1) was the most narrow parenthetical which applied to all the toys in that umbrella article. Seeing as it contained non Alternators characters who were wholly unrelated to Alternators, that was a very bad choice for a move. So at this point, splitting out Classicsverse Nemesis Prime was a necessity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:09, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::...oh for Christ's sake Jackpot, you just made it ''worse''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:10, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I'm assuming you mean the first undo. I don't know what went wrong with that; I've fixed to be fully back to the state before Derik started moving stuff around. And... here's the thing. The whole "most narrow parenthetical" logic is exactly what Jeysie was trying to suggest in that giant debate on parentheticals we had a while back, and not only did the mob shout her down, but her own experiments on the matter revealed that it opens up way too many cans of worms on all sorts of articles. The conclusion was that the job of a parenthetical is NOT to encapsulate the full scope of the character; it's to keep same-name articles separate based on a simple rule. The rule is franchise-of-origin, and NP never appeared under the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]], so there you go. Unless you're counting the unreleased ''Titatium'' toy as the G1 franchise... which I squint at because it was, y'know, never released, and even if it was, wouldn't it be [[War Within (franchise)|War Within]], not G1? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:27, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

I'd say the ideal thing is still to split out Classicsverse NP, if we're going to use this rationale. Then we can debate over whether Alternators/Binaltech NP should merge with Universe 2003 NP. It sidesteps the major issue with you moving the article to the Alternators parenthetical.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:42, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:I'm not... wholly against that idea, but I dislike it because I think that I've convincingly argued each of these points, and the only reason left to do things differently is that the logical result doesn't "feel" right to some people. JACKPOT HATES FEELINGS GRRARR. Also, having three separate NP articles will just make people think, "Hey, maybe we ''should'' combine the ''Alternators'' one with [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] to make things neater," which is another blow against reason. But, just because I dislike it, doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. It's not the worst outcome, and if a three-article solution makes everybody basically happy, then I won't put up a fight. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:03, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::I'm saying this mainly because moving to the Alternators parenthetical breaks the original premise of sticking all the G1 continuity family NPs together, which was why we originally ended up at this namespace. If we split that out and stick it at (G1) or at (Universe 2008), then we're on more solid footing and the debate can proceed without distractions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:06, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I hear what you're saying about the debate and distractions. I was hoping we could reach conclusions soon and that render that point moot, but I guess we'll see. As to your other point, though, changing the parenthetical doesn't actually affect the scope of the article. If it did, then we'd have to use titles like "Optimus Prime (UT)" instead of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)]]. I mean, in principle, YES, I'd ''love'' it if our parentheticals could more accurately reflect our article content, and I've long thought that the UT cases were a perfect example of how counterintuitive our system can be. But the problem is that continuity-families (which are the default basis of ALL of our articles, special exceptions aside) don't all have nice, straightforward, easily-abbreviated, well-recognized, official names. If they were all as clean as "UT", I'd be pushing for that as our parenthetical standard instead, big time. But until some new terms fall into our laps from heaven, the lesser of the evils is to live with the disconnect between continuity-family-based articles and franchise-of-origin-based parentheticals. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:32, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
I could be mature about this, but I'm not going to be, because
#I think you're being a fool
#You reverted my edits, which were inline with Merge templates that have been up for over a month.
#I'm cheezed by your bad behavior over at the Shattered Glass disambig vote.
#Even if you put all that aside, the move to "Nemesis Prime (Alternators)" was totally ass-tarded.

At some point int he future, Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark is purified and turned into a force for good. (I can't find a source for this offhand, but it's the one piee of backstory '''no one''' is debating, so let's just assume it's true for a moment.)
{{quote|A mysterious spark known only as the "Protector" emerged from the chronal chaos and possessed the body of Nemesis Prime created by Doctor Arkeville [...] Unfortunately, Nemesis Prime's programming soon overrode the Protector's spark, forcing it from his body|Alternators Nemesis Prime bio}}

In the "Alternity" timeline that resulted from all of Binaltech's time-monkeying, That spark travels back and possesses the evil body created by Dr. Archaeville, but is eventually forced out.

{{quote|With this crisis averted, the Autobots began focusing their efforts on the Protector, attempting to give him a Binaltech body, while also conducting the Timaeus Project at his direction to create the substance known as "Alternium", which would be important for the future he had foretold. [...] A strike by the Autobots prevented the [sparkless Nemesis Prime] from carrying out his horrible scheme, and during the final battle, the Protector merged with Optimus Prime, increasing his strength to the point that he was able to destroy Nemesis Prime.|Binaltech Nemesis Prime bio}}

The Autobots were workign on buildign a new body for the Protector's spark. Clearly the suceeded because...

{{quote|A native of the same universe that birthed the Alternity, Megatron had fallen into stasis lock during the conflicts which led to the Timaeus Project.|"[[To Mega Therion]]"}}
{{quote|[Megatron claimed] that Nemesis Prime has gone soft since joining the Alternity.|"[[Arch-Nemesis!]]"}}

The Megatron '''explicitly native to''' the Alternity continuity has clashed with Nemesis Prime since '''before'''' Nemesis Prime joined the multiple-body-across-diimensions-squad, ergo this is all so the NP of this universe. In case you thought there was room for ambiguity, "Arch-Nemesis!" explicitly identifies him as The Protector too.

One spark. Same guy. Single continuity. Continuous chain of events.

Unless you can come up with a '''really''' good argument why I shouldn't, I'm revering these articles back. You have 5 minutes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:59, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

:Um, Derik? The Protector is Optimus Primal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Really? Nemesis Prime has Optimus Primal's apark?
::I ask because of both Binaltech bios calling that spark "The Protector," and his alternity bio identifying him as "Protector E7" right off the bat.
::Please clarify this statement. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I... erm... what? Derik, I think you may have your wires crossed. The spark which comes back in time and possesses the lifeless Nemesis Prime body, and is then ejected from it, is Optimus Primal. This is implicitly stated in the final Binaltech story chapter, when the Protector's spark fuses with Optimus Prime, and Prime remembers the same thing happening in the past, when the Protector saved his life before (referencing "Optimal Situation"). Prime proceeds to drop the "seeds of the future" quote, and destroys Nemesis Prime (who by this stage has a spark of his own) by using Primal's patented energy-absorption-and-redirection move from ''Beast Machines''. And Alternity Nemesis Prime is NOT Protector E-7 - [[Elita Seven|THIS]] is Protector E-7, what appears to be Elita One's consciousness in a synthoid body. "Protector" is not an individual - is a title shared by multiple servants of the Alternity, of which Optimus Primal is just one. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:24, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::You are misreading, Derik. [[Elita Seven|Protector E-7]] is a separate character. There is more than one [[Protector]], and Optimus Primal was the one in Binaltech. He inhabited Nemesis Prime's body, but was later driven out and replaced by Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:22, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Ugh. '''Whatever'''. The point is he's dead and the matrix died with him!
::::It's the same continuity anyway. (Seriously, can I take a bat to whoever thought it was cute to have ''two'' mysterious time-traveling sparks with god-like benefactors, both skip backward-and-sidways-in-time to and posses the ''same'' goddamn body?)
::::Is this Forrest Lee's fault? >:( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:29, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::It's more Ichikawa's fault, but it gets kind of chicken and egg. It mostly looks like Ichikawa took the somewhat sparse bit that Lee wrote for Alternators Nemesis Prime, since it was an homage to Ichikawa's Binaltech work, and found a way to incorporate it into the ongoing Binaltech fiction he was writing. He then referenced it more definitely in the Alternity character's bio. Ain't Transformers fiction grandly inbred?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:43, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::But I don't want to beat up Ichikawa-kun! I want to beat up Forrest Lee! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:44, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well if you really wanted to I guess you could beat up Lee for homaging him, thus forcing him to homage Lee back.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:12, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

:Tick-tock. Quick question. I thought The Protector was believed to be either BW Primal or a counterpart of his? [[User:Eire]] 00.06 Aug 6 09 (UTC)

:I don't know what you mean by all the Protector stuff. All I'm seeing in your argument is that the ''Binaltech''-native ''Alternity'' Megatron said that NP had "gone soft since joining the Alternity." This ''could'' mean that they had clashed in the pre-''Alternity'' (and therefore ''Binaltech'') realm, but not necessarily. If I'm understanding this right, Megatron was nigh-omniscient at that point; he could've been well aware of how evil 2003-''Universe'' NP had been in his own universe (or the UT). Yeah, it ''sounds'' like cliched so-we-meet-again dialogue, but that's bringing your own interpretation into it. Even if they HAD met before, maybe Megatron had fought with 2003-''Universe'' NP at some point in his ascension. There are too many unknowns to base any conclusions off of. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:15, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==Dodge Ram Nemesis and Mammoth Nemesis==
Okay, I managed to dig up the specific quote from Forest Lee regarding the relationship between Alternators Nemesis Prime and Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime. This was relayed by a friend who was e-mailing him at the time.

:''My thought when I wrote that bio was that Arkeville tapped into this exta-dimensional power source without having a full understanding of what it was. If Binaltech is a continuation, it's probably of the original Marvel universe, right? So Arkeville might have thought he had hooked up with the Negative Zone or some similarly unpleasant place, when in fact he had connected to the pocket dimension that serves as Unicron's battery.''

:''Unicron basically fed Arkeville exactly what he needed (and maybe even somehow subtly directed Arkeville's hand during the entire construction of N. Prime), which is basically a Spark fragment or whatever from his own work at cloning Optimus Prime (which ended with the creation of Universe Nemesis Prime).''

:''So Arkeville thinks he's got his own private well of power from which to potentially build an army of Transformer soldiers, when in reality what he's doing is empowering a soldier for Unicron.''

With this in mind {{m-}} ignoring Forest's notion that Binaltech was a continuation of the Marvel comics continuity {{m-}} it does not seem that the two Nemesis Primes were meant to be the same character, just that their origins were related (after a fashion). Ergo, I feel that the two separate pages, as currently written, are how they should remain. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:43, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:Awesome, thank you for the info. Whichever way it turns out, it's just good to get the facts straight. Do you know which was written first, Lee's bio or Ichikawa's? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

==Stellar Converter==
Since the reason given for the removal was invalid (it was removed for not being a reference, but it wasn't part of the references section) I reverted it. If there is a real problem please contact me. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 08:30, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:The reason is, it has nothing to do with anything. I could add that Nemesis was the baddie from ''Robotix'' and it would have just as much place on this page. The fact that his gun shares its name with something else is not notable and shouldn't be included in the article unless it was a deliberate reference. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:32, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== Nemesis Prime no Nippon doko? ==

Whetever happened to the Japanese exclusive (Wonderfest? Winterfest?) Classics mold that was suppposed to have red translucent parts instead of blue? Is this fig still pending, cancelled, or is it a different Nemesis Prime? In general, Nemesi Prime navigation is a bit difficult. Some of these toys could use ''mold'' disambig pages, as opposed to; or rather, in addition to, character disambigs. This is a ''Prime'' (cough) example of the toy being less complicated than the bot who is distinguished from his identical counterpart from the universe that turns out to be the same universe in the first place, who later travels to the future from the future, and posessess himself. Causality be damned. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 15:41, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

==Main Picture==
How about changing the main pic to his Transformers Legends appearance, it's much cooler looking and seems more appropriate for a "G1" article. The current one seems rather bland and dosen't really contrast with Optimus G1. (I would have changed it myself, but I don't know how. ) [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:23, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:The Alternator's picture is his first body, so it's staying. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:25, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
: Could we at least add it in the Legends section? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:28, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Nemesis Prime (G1)

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SoundWave:

==Alternators==
So, does the japanese version of it contain Die Cast or not?
: Well, in a few months when you can buy one, let us know! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

==Main Picture==
How about changing the main pic to his Transformers Legends appearance, it's much cooler looking and seems more appropriate for a "G1" article. The current one seems rather bland and dosen't really contrast with Optimus G1. (I would have changed it myself, but I don't know how. ) [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:23, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

==Nit pick==
Nit-picky: I don't think he becomes Nemesis Prime/Black Convoy until the spark is put in him. Therefore, "Now, as Nemesis Prime, he returned to Arkeville's lair," wouldn't be true. Actually, the story explicitly stated he is under the control of AI programming, and was only named ''after'' Arkeville connected him to the evil life force. But, like I said, that's a nit pick.

What I really don't like is calling that other guy Vector Prime. For me, it's too great a leap. Just my thoughts. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 21:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

==War Within origin?==
If this [[ Generation 1|G1 ]] Nemesis Prime is [[ Dr. Arkeville|man ]]-made, what about "[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]" Nemesis Prime from the [[Titanium Series]]?--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
:Having never seen the packaging and bio, I couldn't speculate. However it's worth noting that Arkeville never appeared in Dreamwave continuity, and thus Dreamwave continuity is ''not'' Alternators continuity. In other words, a "War Within" Nemesis Prime would be solidly in the Dreamwave-verse, and thus have no bearing on Alternators.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 21:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

::Sunstorm and Ricochet are clones in Dreamwave continuity, and not in others. Thus it's difficult to say what kind of status a Dreamwave Nemesis Prime would have based on his status in other continuities.
::If I had to ''guess'', I'd ssay they'd place him as part of Age of Wrath with all the other clones runnign around, so clone is likely, bu by no means assured. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

== Alternity ==

Translations of the "super-black" version of Alternity Convoy heavily imply that he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, as well as [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]]. Presumably this works out rather well, because the timeline that birthed the Alternity into the multiverse was the Binaltech one, which is also the one where Universe Nemesis Prime's spark got infused into Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:16, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:But, if he was created from a fragment of Uni Nemesis' cloned spark, that just makes him a clone whose spark was born from Uni Nemesis, rather than being the same individual. I mean, Uni Nemesis is a clone of a Prime from a destroyed universe...it's all rather head turning really [[User:Eire]] 21.29 July 21 (UTC)
::Uh... I know that we've seen instances of sparks being split in the past, but I'm blanking on where. (Dinobot II doesn't really count, he had external datatraxs.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:42, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Where are we getting that this is a fragment, not the whole spark?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:48, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Where are we getting anything that says Nemesis was born from having an entire spark transferred by Unicron? [[User:Eire]] 21.49 July 21 (UTC)
:::::What does that have to do with what I just asked? I mean, you seem to be assuming he's a clone of a clone, when that doesn't seem supported by the source material. The second spark within the Binaltech body could well have been Nemesis Prime's in full.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:01, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

The "fragment" bit is from the unsourced Forest Lee statement down in the trivia section of this page, which I believe he said at a BotCon? That's the only bit that specifically ties Binaltech (well, Alternators) Nemesis Prime to Universe Nemmy; the actual Binaltech story didn't draw so specfic a connection, but did imply Unicron's hand in the proceedings. As Eire says, he (BT Nemmy) doesn't seem to be ''precisely'' the same entity as Universe/Alternity NP. Nothing is actually leaping out at me from the translated story that explicitly hints he's Binaltech Nemesis Prime, anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

Maaaaan, having two franchises called "Universe" can be damn confusing. Okay, so I've read [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/alternators-10/alternity-convoy-super-black-bio-168068/ a translation of ''Alternity'' Super-Black Convoy's bio,] and the only reference I'm getting out of that is to [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|2003-''Universe'' NP]]. I am seriously not at all seeing any implication, heavy or otherwise, that he's ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy or ''Alternators'' NP. Could someone please explain what I'm missing? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:35, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:Ichikawa wrote Binaltech, and the second spark that was housed in Binaltech Nemesis Prime's body was that of the 2003 Universe Nemesis Prime. Alternity is a continuation of Binaltech in many ways, and seems to be written by Ichikawa as well. [[Arch-Nemesis!/src|Our current translation]] Heavily parallels the events of Binaltech, and the eventual destruction of Binaltech Nemesis Prime.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:43, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::What is the evidence that ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy (I'm using the Japanese name to try to keep all these incarnations straight) got 2003-''Universe'' NP's spark? Reading [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg a translation of the story where that happens,] the source of BC's new life is vague in the extreme. I don't know where to find translations of his continued story, but this article's summary doesn't suggest anything more about his origin. I'm also not seeing how ''Alternity'' SBC's bio "heavily parallels" ''Binaltech'' BC's story. All it says is that he fought a fierce battle with the Cybertrons (I'm assuming that means "Autobots"?) and was defeated, which is pretty much what happened to 2003-''Universe'' NP too. Of course, I'm assuming that ''Binaltech'' didn't have a 900,000-year flash-forward... - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:56, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::To be more specific, Alternity Nemesis Prime's bio implies that he was specifically reformed in the same timeline that the Alternity originated from, the "BT World." This makes the Alternity bio kind of a missing link here, because we now have a clear timeline of Megazarak destroying the Optimus Prime of his world, Unicron rebuilding him and giving him the Dead Matrix, him being destroyed in the Unicron, his spark being harnessed by Arkeville, and then destroyed again in the Binaltech timeline and apparently rehabilitated in the span of time it took that universe to birth the Alternity. The 900,000 years figure is the same one mentioned in the other Alternity fiction.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:14, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::How does it imply that SBC came from the BT World? It starts out in an explicitly alternate universe (one that sounds not-coincidentally like the one 2003-''Universe'' NP came from), SBC loses a battle in a nonspecific place and time, and then he is "inducted into the Convoy collective 900,000 years in the future, where the Alternity is located." Since the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]] transcends universal streams, a character could come in contact with it from presumably anywhere in the multiverse. In fact, if the "Convoy collective" is referring to the [[Convoy Corps]], then you're saying that every one of those Convoys must have come from the BT World, which I thought was either in doubt or expressedly wrong. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:28, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I think [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg this] might need a re-translation. Just to make sure... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:05, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

== Alt/BT versus Classics ==
So we can agree that Alternators/Binaltech NP has some portion of Universe NP's spark, but they each have their own article on this wiki. Now, why would Classics NP be here on this article when his bio shares no connection at all to Alt/BT NP? It just seems funny that the two who share a spark are considered different characters, but Dr. Arkeville's clone and Straxus' twisted soldier are considered the same character. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 09:10, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:There had been a discussion about this some while back, but I think it got lost in the crash. The logic was, the ''Alternators''/''Binaltech'' character and the ''Universe Classic Series'' character are both evil black-and-teal Prime clones in the G1 continuity family, so they should share an article. Just as, for instance, IDW Galvatron is in the same article with (most of) the other G1 Galvies that came before him, despite his unique origin. The connection you're suggesting between ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy and 2003-''Universe'' NP is new to me. Does it have to do with the ''Alternity'' discussion up above? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:42, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, the first post of the above discussion mentions it. Also, the trivia sections of [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] and [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] mention it. It's the whole "Arkeville tapped into an extra-spatial source, which Forrest Lee says is Unicron, who gave Arkeville a piece of Universe NP's spark" thing. Thus, a connection between ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and 2003-''Universe'' NP. I wouldn't really consider then the same character, but in my mind, they share a stronger connection to each other than ''Alt''/''BT'' NP and ''Universe Classic Series'' NP. To counter your point about Galvatron, I present [[Galvatron II]]. -[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 17:53, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ah, I forgot about Forest's alleged comment. I'm.... not inclined to give much weight at all to unconfirmed hearsay about off-the-cuff author-commentary. Besides, the story of ''Alternators'' NP is somewhat different from ''Binaltech'' BC, so I'm not sure how to apply that even if it WAS canon. If that's the best evidence we have of any connection between 2003-''Universe'' NP and ''Alternators'' NP - and as far as I can tell, it is - then I don't think there's sufficient reason to change the articles around.
:::As for Galvy II, I don't see how the reason that that article exists pertains at all to this situation, nor how it invalidates the IDW-Galvy analogy.
:::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:05, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
::::In regards to the Nemesis Prime issue, I guess I concede. It just doesn't feel very good to me having two characters who have very different backgrounds on the same page, but I guess there's a bunch of pages like that here. As for Galvatron, I was trying to say that Galvatron II has pretty much the same origin as Galvatron I, both are from a G1 universe, they're clearly based on the same character template, yet separate pages. I mean, if we're going to keep someone as different as IDW Galvatron on the Galvatron page, why does Galvatron II (who is so similar to Galvatron I by compariaon to IDW Galvatron), get his own page? Wait, I finally understand your first Galvatron analogy: two completely different characters who share the same page, just like Nemesis Prime (G1). Can you possibly understand my confusion? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I totally understand where you're coming from; the current setup does seem intuitively... off. But it actually does make sense, and I'm glad that I've been able to explain that clearly. For what it's worth, if any official material ever actually connects ''Binaltech'' BC with 2003-''Universe'' NP, then I'll be much more amenable to rearranging the articles.
:::::The logic behind Galvatron II as a separate article is actually the opposite of what's happening here: Because there are two versions of Galvy running around in the same comic series, each doing big stuff, any attempt to document both them in the same article would be confusing and unnecessarily difficult. Given that one of the Galvys even has a unique official name ("Galvatron II" shows up in ''The Ultimate Guide'' and some e-Hobby stuff), making a second article is clearly preferable.
:::::Meanwhile, IDW Galvy is lumped into the primary Galvatron article because he's in the same continuity family and has the same name, same general appearance, and same basic role as a character, but unlike Galvy II, he's safely confined to his own series. Splitting hairs on origins is a dangerous road to go down, since every incarnation of a given character is going to be somewhat different from the rest, and with so many variations within a continuity-family as sprawling as G1, we have to allow some give so everything doesn't end up a judgement call.
:::::At least, that's the status quo. I've actually [[Talk:Scorponok (G1)|argued for less "give" in certain cases]], but it seems that the wiki trends toward inclusion.
:::::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 12:07, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

== Move? ==

This article just got moved from [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] to [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime (Alternators)]] with a memo stating: <tt>None of the Nemesis Primes (Nemeses Prime?) in this article were actually in the G1 franchise, just Alternators/Binaltech, Universe, and arguably Classics.</tt>

... Alternators, Binaltech, Universe 2008 and Classics are ''all'' (G1) continuities. What you smokin'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:56, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:Not to mention that Classicsverse Nemesis Prime ''really'' doesn't belong here if this is to be the Alternators character.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:01, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Disambigs are by franchise of origin. The franchises that apply here are all part of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|G1 continuity family]], NOT the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]]. This character originated in ''Alternators'', then another version of the same essential dude appeared in ''Classics'' (via ''Universe''). They belong on the same page in the same way that IDW Galvatron belongs on [[Galvatron (G1)]] (as described above), disambiguated by the franchise-of-origin, which is ''Alternators''. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Except that (G1) was the most narrow parenthetical which applied to all the toys in that umbrella article. Seeing as it contained non Alternators characters who were wholly unrelated to Alternators, that was a very bad choice for a move. So at this point, splitting out Classicsverse Nemesis Prime was a necessity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:09, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::...oh for Christ's sake Jackpot, you just made it ''worse''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:10, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I'm assuming you mean the first undo. I don't know what went wrong with that; I've fixed to be fully back to the state before Derik started moving stuff around. And... here's the thing. The whole "most narrow parenthetical" logic is exactly what Jeysie was trying to suggest in that giant debate on parentheticals we had a while back, and not only did the mob shout her down, but her own experiments on the matter revealed that it opens up way too many cans of worms on all sorts of articles. The conclusion was that the job of a parenthetical is NOT to encapsulate the full scope of the character; it's to keep same-name articles separate based on a simple rule. The rule is franchise-of-origin, and NP never appeared under the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1 franchise]], so there you go. Unless you're counting the unreleased ''Titatium'' toy as the G1 franchise... which I squint at because it was, y'know, never released, and even if it was, wouldn't it be [[War Within (franchise)|War Within]], not G1? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:27, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

I'd say the ideal thing is still to split out Classicsverse NP, if we're going to use this rationale. Then we can debate over whether Alternators/Binaltech NP should merge with Universe 2003 NP. It sidesteps the major issue with you moving the article to the Alternators parenthetical.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:42, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:I'm not... wholly against that idea, but I dislike it because I think that I've convincingly argued each of these points, and the only reason left to do things differently is that the logical result doesn't "feel" right to some people. JACKPOT HATES FEELINGS GRRARR. Also, having three separate NP articles will just make people think, "Hey, maybe we ''should'' combine the ''Alternators'' one with [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)]] to make things neater," which is another blow against reason. But, just because I dislike it, doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. It's not the worst outcome, and if a three-article solution makes everybody basically happy, then I won't put up a fight. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:03, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::I'm saying this mainly because moving to the Alternators parenthetical breaks the original premise of sticking all the G1 continuity family NPs together, which was why we originally ended up at this namespace. If we split that out and stick it at (G1) or at (Universe 2008), then we're on more solid footing and the debate can proceed without distractions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:06, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I hear what you're saying about the debate and distractions. I was hoping we could reach conclusions soon and that render that point moot, but I guess we'll see. As to your other point, though, changing the parenthetical doesn't actually affect the scope of the article. If it did, then we'd have to use titles like "Optimus Prime (UT)" instead of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)]]. I mean, in principle, YES, I'd ''love'' it if our parentheticals could more accurately reflect our article content, and I've long thought that the UT cases were a perfect example of how counterintuitive our system can be. But the problem is that continuity-families (which are the default basis of ALL of our articles, special exceptions aside) don't all have nice, straightforward, easily-abbreviated, well-recognized, official names. If they were all as clean as "UT", I'd be pushing for that as our parenthetical standard instead, big time. But until some new terms fall into our laps from heaven, the lesser of the evils is to live with the disconnect between continuity-family-based articles and franchise-of-origin-based parentheticals. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:32, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
I could be mature about this, but I'm not going to be, because
#I think you're being a fool
#You reverted my edits, which were inline with Merge templates that have been up for over a month.
#I'm cheezed by your bad behavior over at the Shattered Glass disambig vote.
#Even if you put all that aside, the move to "Nemesis Prime (Alternators)" was totally ass-tarded.

At some point int he future, Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark is purified and turned into a force for good. (I can't find a source for this offhand, but it's the one piee of backstory '''no one''' is debating, so let's just assume it's true for a moment.)
{{quote|A mysterious spark known only as the "Protector" emerged from the chronal chaos and possessed the body of Nemesis Prime created by Doctor Arkeville [...] Unfortunately, Nemesis Prime's programming soon overrode the Protector's spark, forcing it from his body|Alternators Nemesis Prime bio}}

In the "Alternity" timeline that resulted from all of Binaltech's time-monkeying, That spark travels back and possesses the evil body created by Dr. Archaeville, but is eventually forced out.

{{quote|With this crisis averted, the Autobots began focusing their efforts on the Protector, attempting to give him a Binaltech body, while also conducting the Timaeus Project at his direction to create the substance known as "Alternium", which would be important for the future he had foretold. [...] A strike by the Autobots prevented the [sparkless Nemesis Prime] from carrying out his horrible scheme, and during the final battle, the Protector merged with Optimus Prime, increasing his strength to the point that he was able to destroy Nemesis Prime.|Binaltech Nemesis Prime bio}}

The Autobots were workign on buildign a new body for the Protector's spark. Clearly the suceeded because...

{{quote|A native of the same universe that birthed the Alternity, Megatron had fallen into stasis lock during the conflicts which led to the Timaeus Project.|"[[To Mega Therion]]"}}
{{quote|[Megatron claimed] that Nemesis Prime has gone soft since joining the Alternity.|"[[Arch-Nemesis!]]"}}

The Megatron '''explicitly native to''' the Alternity continuity has clashed with Nemesis Prime since '''before'''' Nemesis Prime joined the multiple-body-across-diimensions-squad, ergo this is all so the NP of this universe. In case you thought there was room for ambiguity, "Arch-Nemesis!" explicitly identifies him as The Protector too.

One spark. Same guy. Single continuity. Continuous chain of events.

Unless you can come up with a '''really''' good argument why I shouldn't, I'm revering these articles back. You have 5 minutes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:59, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

:Um, Derik? The Protector is Optimus Primal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::Really? Nemesis Prime has Optimus Primal's apark?
::I ask because of both Binaltech bios calling that spark "The Protector," and his alternity bio identifying him as "Protector E7" right off the bat.
::Please clarify this statement. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I... erm... what? Derik, I think you may have your wires crossed. The spark which comes back in time and possesses the lifeless Nemesis Prime body, and is then ejected from it, is Optimus Primal. This is implicitly stated in the final Binaltech story chapter, when the Protector's spark fuses with Optimus Prime, and Prime remembers the same thing happening in the past, when the Protector saved his life before (referencing "Optimal Situation"). Prime proceeds to drop the "seeds of the future" quote, and destroys Nemesis Prime (who by this stage has a spark of his own) by using Primal's patented energy-absorption-and-redirection move from ''Beast Machines''. And Alternity Nemesis Prime is NOT Protector E-7 - [[Elita Seven|THIS]] is Protector E-7, what appears to be Elita One's consciousness in a synthoid body. "Protector" is not an individual - is a title shared by multiple servants of the Alternity, of which Optimus Primal is just one. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:24, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::You are misreading, Derik. [[Elita Seven|Protector E-7]] is a separate character. There is more than one [[Protector]], and Optimus Primal was the one in Binaltech. He inhabited Nemesis Prime's body, but was later driven out and replaced by Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime's spark.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:22, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Ugh. '''Whatever'''. The point is he's dead and the matrix died with him!
::::It's the same continuity anyway. (Seriously, can I take a bat to whoever thought it was cute to have ''two'' mysterious time-traveling sparks with god-like benefactors, both skip backward-and-sidways-in-time to and posses the ''same'' goddamn body?)
::::Is this Forrest Lee's fault? >:( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:29, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::It's more Ichikawa's fault, but it gets kind of chicken and egg. It mostly looks like Ichikawa took the somewhat sparse bit that Lee wrote for Alternators Nemesis Prime, since it was an homage to Ichikawa's Binaltech work, and found a way to incorporate it into the ongoing Binaltech fiction he was writing. He then referenced it more definitely in the Alternity character's bio. Ain't Transformers fiction grandly inbred?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:43, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::But I don't want to beat up Ichikawa-kun! I want to beat up Forrest Lee! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:44, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well if you really wanted to I guess you could beat up Lee for homaging him, thus forcing him to homage Lee back.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:12, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

:Tick-tock. Quick question. I thought The Protector was believed to be either BW Primal or a counterpart of his? [[User:Eire]] 00.06 Aug 6 09 (UTC)

:I don't know what you mean by all the Protector stuff. All I'm seeing in your argument is that the ''Binaltech''-native ''Alternity'' Megatron said that NP had "gone soft since joining the Alternity." This ''could'' mean that they had clashed in the pre-''Alternity'' (and therefore ''Binaltech'') realm, but not necessarily. If I'm understanding this right, Megatron was nigh-omniscient at that point; he could've been well aware of how evil 2003-''Universe'' NP had been in his own universe (or the UT). Yeah, it ''sounds'' like cliched so-we-meet-again dialogue, but that's bringing your own interpretation into it. Even if they HAD met before, maybe Megatron had fought with 2003-''Universe'' NP at some point in his ascension. There are too many unknowns to base any conclusions off of. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:15, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==Dodge Ram Nemesis and Mammoth Nemesis==
Okay, I managed to dig up the specific quote from Forest Lee regarding the relationship between Alternators Nemesis Prime and Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime. This was relayed by a friend who was e-mailing him at the time.

:''My thought when I wrote that bio was that Arkeville tapped into this exta-dimensional power source without having a full understanding of what it was. If Binaltech is a continuation, it's probably of the original Marvel universe, right? So Arkeville might have thought he had hooked up with the Negative Zone or some similarly unpleasant place, when in fact he had connected to the pocket dimension that serves as Unicron's battery.''

:''Unicron basically fed Arkeville exactly what he needed (and maybe even somehow subtly directed Arkeville's hand during the entire construction of N. Prime), which is basically a Spark fragment or whatever from his own work at cloning Optimus Prime (which ended with the creation of Universe Nemesis Prime).''

:''So Arkeville thinks he's got his own private well of power from which to potentially build an army of Transformer soldiers, when in reality what he's doing is empowering a soldier for Unicron.''

With this in mind {{m-}} ignoring Forest's notion that Binaltech was a continuation of the Marvel comics continuity {{m-}} it does not seem that the two Nemesis Primes were meant to be the same character, just that their origins were related (after a fashion). Ergo, I feel that the two separate pages, as currently written, are how they should remain. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:43, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:Awesome, thank you for the info. Whichever way it turns out, it's just good to get the facts straight. Do you know which was written first, Lee's bio or Ichikawa's? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:05, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

==Stellar Converter==
Since the reason given for the removal was invalid (it was removed for not being a reference, but it wasn't part of the references section) I reverted it. If there is a real problem please contact me. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 08:30, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:The reason is, it has nothing to do with anything. I could add that Nemesis was the baddie from ''Robotix'' and it would have just as much place on this page. The fact that his gun shares its name with something else is not notable and shouldn't be included in the article unless it was a deliberate reference. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:32, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== Nemesis Prime no Nippon doko? ==

Whetever happened to the Japanese exclusive (Wonderfest? Winterfest?) Classics mold that was suppposed to have red translucent parts instead of blue? Is this fig still pending, cancelled, or is it a different Nemesis Prime? In general, Nemesi Prime navigation is a bit difficult. Some of these toys could use ''mold'' disambig pages, as opposed to; or rather, in addition to, character disambigs. This is a ''Prime'' (cough) example of the toy being less complicated than the bot who is distinguished from his identical counterpart from the universe that turns out to be the same universe in the first place, who later travels to the future from the future, and posessess himself. Causality be damned. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 15:41, 11 July 2010 (EDT)

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SoundWave:

A couple of things: firstly, please sign your talk page messages by typing four tildes, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which automatically adds a signature when the page is saved. Secondly, please look up actual page names when trying to link to them in articles - you can't just type [[Fall of Cybertron video game]] and expect it to lead to the correct page. Use the 'Show preview' button to check that your links aren't coming up red. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:23, 18 July 2013 (EDT)
:Okay. [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:44, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
:DO NOT replace a preexisting image with a different one unless it's the same type of image. You should have uploaded the one you did to a new file. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:06, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
: Okay I'll try that.
::Also, sign you're posts, using the ~ button. Like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:10, 8 October 2013 (EDT) : Sometimes I forget that.[[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 19:12, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

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''[[Transformers: Alternators| Alternators]]'' [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime's]] [[package art]], drawn by [[Marcelo Matere]] (color-swapped from Marcelo's package art for ''Alternators'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]]).

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Drift (G1)

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:''Drift is an [[Autobot]] and former [[Decepticon]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:AHM 06 CoverA.jpg|300px|thumb|"Oh Drift-chan, you smell awesome, and not at all like feet!"]]

'''Drift''' (ドリフト ''Dorifuto'') was not always an Autobot. In fact, he slaughtered quite a few when he was known as the Decepticon '''Deadlock'''. But Deadlock's eyes were opened to what the Transformers' war had become when he stumbled across a lost faction of neutral Transformers long since forgotten. He discarded his ruthless ways, abandoned his guns for swords, and changed his name and appearance.

When Drift returned to the Transformer war to make right what he put wrong, he was a bot of few words and disciplined action. Because of his brutal past, Drift isn't well-liked or trusted by [[Bumblebee (G1)|a few]] of the Autobots. The rest don't seem to care, so long as his skills are used against the other side!

In addition to the two swords kept in his hip scabbards, Drift carries a legendary [[Great Sword]]. An ancient weapon that predates modern civilization, the Great Sword draws upon the [[spark]] energy of its bearer, and as such must only be used in the most dire of circumstances.

{{quote|We're going about this the wrong way, '''all''' of us! After countless centuries of fighting ... the Autobots are a '''step''' away from what we were when all this '''started.''' And us—the Decepticons have become something '''worse''' than any of us could have '''imagined'''.|Drift explains his new perception of the war to his [[Turmoil|former commander]]|"[[Spotlight: Drift]]"}}

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==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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[[File:Drift2-renamed.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"Eh....Inferno, tell to Death Blade that if he calling me that again, his name will become DEATH BOT!"]]

Drift was originally a homeless Cybertronian, living on the streets and stealing energon to survive. The hopeless 'bot was befriended by [[Gasket]] {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}} but otherwise had no one. During one [[circuit booster|drug trip]] in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]], he was assaulted by [[Sonic (G1)|Sonic]] and [[Boom]], who were abducting homeless people for money. Drift was rescued by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]], who brought him to [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s secret clinic in [[Rodion]]. Ratchet saved Drift's life, and told the young robot that he could achieve great things in his life if he tried— he could just ''tell'' Drift was destined for something special. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}}

Drift would soon learn what that was, after Gasket was killed by Autobot law enforcement after trying to stop them from executing a thief. Drift exploded with rage, grabbed the nearest gun and killed them all. His knack for violence attracted the attention of the Cybertronian underground, who trained Drift as a killer. Amongst this group, Drift realized the level of corruption in the [[Senate]], and a recruitment rally held by [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] drew Drift in with his talk of equality. Megatron singled Drift out of the crowd, claiming to have heard great things of him, and asked him to join the Decepticons to fight for a better Cybertron. Drift agreed and, after being was hailed by the crowd, was renamed Deadlock by Megatron. {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}} Drift rose to become the second-in-command of [[Turmoil]], garnering a reputation as a vicious and merciless fighter.

[[File:Drift1-Deadlock.jpg|thumb|250px|Deadlock prefers to pose so his legs don't block any of the action.]]
Much later, on the planet [[Dabola]], Deadlock led a battalion against an Autobot squadron. The [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Autobots' leader]] called a retreat, and Deadlock's team celebrated. This was spoiled when one of the soldiers pointed out that Deadlock had been ordered to merely observe, and once again had disobeyed orders. When the soldier threatened to inform Turmoil of Deadlock's disobedience, Deadlock killed him. Claiming Turmoil was too cautious and that it was time for new leadership, he called for the other soldiers to follow him, but they summarily captured him and brought him to Turmoil. Turmoil used a stasis lock to trap him in robot mode and attempted to execute him. Deadlock managed to escape, and after initiating an emergency protocol to cover his escape, stole an escape pod and departed the ship.

Deadlock crashed on an unknown planet. After scaling some, he found a massive structure, but before he could explore, a mysterious cloaked figure appeared, named [[Wing (G1)|Wing]]. Wing offered a deal: help him free the slaves, and he would find Deadlock a ship. Deadlock, introducing himself as "Drift," agreed, but first Drift said he needed guns. Together, they jumped some guards and stole their weapons, however a stray blast stripped Wing of his cloak, revealing him to be Cybertronian. Once they jumped into the complex, Drift automatically fled for the ship, abandoning Wing. Despite this betrayal, when Drift was attacked and nearly killed by one the slavers, Wing brought Drift back with him to a new [[Crystal City]], where he was repaired. {{storylink|Drift issue 1|Drift #1}}

[[File:Drift1-rebuilt.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"We were okay with your old legs. Rest had to go."]]

Wing explained that they were the [[Circle of Light]], a group of Cybertronian scholars and scientists who abandoned the planet during the early days of the war in order to find peace and preserve Cybertron's culture. Wing and Drift were taken to a meeting with Crystal City's leader, [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]]. While Drift waited outside, Wing was admonished for bringing a corrupting influence to the city. He was ordered to keep Drift with him at all times. Afterward, Wing brought Drift to an empty room, discarded his swords and asked him what the Decepticon symbol stood for. Drift replied it meant strength, power and conviction, and the belief in the survival of the strongest. Wing offered Drift a chance to earn his freedom by defeating him without guns in combat, but Drift never succeeded. Drift grumbled that he'd never learned to fight without projectile weaponry.

Weeks later, Wing was still dominating Drift. Over time, Drift admitted that Crystal City held everything Drift had ever wanted, while the Decepticons had lost sight of this goal some time ago. Their sparring was interrupted by a summons from Dai Atlas. When they arrived in the control room, he informed them that they had received a coded signal and he thought Drift might be able to translate. Though Drift claimed he could not understand it, that night he snuck out of the city and drove far into the desert. There he met with the slavers, who had used a Decepticon code to offer Drift a deal. The code had been obtained from [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]], a Decepticon sent by Megatron. The deal was simple: hand over the location of the Circle of Light or die. {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}}

[[File:Drift4-notdoneyet.jpg|thumb|250px|Man, I bet those dumb G2 guys wish they had this kind of endurance.]]

Lockdown reminded "Deadlock" of his high-standing in the Decepticon army. Megatron held Deadlock in high esteem, and by guarding these Transformers Drift stood to lose that. Meanwhile, the head slaver, [[Braid]], required Cybertronian bodies to experiment on, and were willing to take captives from the neutral camp in lieu of Deadlock, in payment for the property he'd damaged earlier. After agreeing to lead the neutral Transformers into an ambush, Drift stumbled back to Crystal City, where he informed the Circle of Light about the pact he'd made with Lockdown and the slavers. Drift argued that they should fight their attackers to preserve their freedom and their way of life, but Dai Atlas sharply disagreed. He would have no fighting at all, even to preserve his own life, and blamed Drift for ruining their civilization. The others did not agree, and supported Drift. A small number of them offered to help fight the slavers while keeping the true number of their population unknown. As they reached the surface with a hastily constructed craft to make it appear as if the Circle of Light had recently crashed there, Drift revealed himself to have been rebuilt head-to-toe to match his new colleagues. With a sword mounted on each hip, Drift announced he was ready. {{storylink|Drift issue 3|Drift #3}}

Soon, Lockdown and the slavers were upon them. After slaying a few of the slavers, Drift realized that he was past the point of no return. Lockdown realized this as well, and asked the former Decepticon why he'd given it all away so easily. "What I've always wanted... the promise of a better Cybertron." But their sparring was interrupted by the death of Wing. Enraged, Drift jumped Braid, Wing's murderer, but he did not accomplish much. He was not as agile a fighter as his late friend, and Braid easily defeated him.

Before the killing blow could be delivered, Crystal City in its entirety rose from the ground, as Wing's death had spurred Dai Atlas into action. With the entirety of the population now fighting the slavers, the tide was quickly turned. Despite his injuries, Drift slew Braid with his Great Sword, while Lockdown, startled at Drift's transformation, cut his losses and left. Though the Circle of Light asked Drift to stay with them, Drift reminded them that he'd promised Wing to return the freed slaves to their homes. Drift was given Wing's Great Sword and given their blessing. {{storylink|Drift issue 4|Drift #4}}

[[File:SpotlightDrift Deadlockisdead.jpg|left|200px|thumb|He's your horrible fancharacter.]]

Some time after leaving Crystal City and returning the slaves, Drift set off to make a difference in the Autobot/Decepticon Civil War. First, he attempted to free a group of Autobots held captive on the ship he'd previously served aboard. Upon entering Turmoil's ship, his attempt at stealth was successful until the [[Wrecker]]s arrived and blasted their way aboard. Jumping into the battle to assist them, he piqued the interest of a few Autobots. [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] was injured as Turmoil entered the battle and, recognizing Drift's voice as that of his former lieutenant, attempted to destroy him. However, his attack only resulted in knocking Drift and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] to another room. The two quickly worked together to program the ship to overload. In his final confrontation with Turmoil, Drift stated his intention was to help, not kill, and left to rescue Perceptor before the ship blew up.

After his arrival on the Autobot ship, Kup invited Drift to join his new unit as an Autobot. {{storylink|Spotlight: Drift}}

[[File:SpotlightDrift-car.jpg|300px|thumb|He thinks he's turning Japanese, he thinks he's turning Japanese, he really thinks so.]]

Now a crew member of the spacecraft ''[[Trion]]'', Drift got to know his new teammate [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] over many friendly games of [[Go]]. Perceptor felt he owed a debt to Drift for saving his life, and so devoted much of his time to upgrading himself for more combat-oriented tasks. While Kup discouraged this, Drift stoically accepted Perceptor's new ambitions. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 15#"Lost & Found"|Lost & Found}}

They were soon baited into a Decepticon ambush over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The ''Trion'''s command codes were hacked due to their being sold to the Decepticons by an Autobot traitor, and, left defenseless, it was forced to crash-land on the desolate landscape of the planet. Eventually, the crew were found by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s unit, who unfortunately proved to be ''also'' stranded. When [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] was revealed by [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] to have been standing invisibly among them, Drift was the only one who didn't appear surprised. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}}

[[File:Allhailmegatron6-omgdriftomg.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Seriously, you made this guy up when you were eight.]]

When an advance scout of the [[Insecticon swarm|Insecticon Swarm]] discovered the Autobots' base camp, Drift was dispatched to take care of it. Drift stood stock-still as the creature walked up to him, greeting it with a simple, smirking "hello" as the monstrous beast snarled in his face. Finally, he beheaded the scout with a single wave of his sword. A second creature tried to attack Drift from behind, but the smirking Autobot merely tilted his head slightly, allowing [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] to kill the beast with some precision sniping. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] thought the incident was the coolest thing ever. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

After [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] revealed to [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] that he was the traitor, an army of the Swarm came after them. Drift saved Ironhide while Sunstreaker blew up a bridge, killing himself and the Swarm army. Later, Drift visited Ironhide and claimed that the Decepticons had access to the Autobots' systems in a way that Sunstreaker couldn't possibly have. Ironhide asked if this meant there was a second traitor, but Drift replied that there was simply more to the situation than they knew. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}}

When Mirage was showing some doubt in the Autobot cause, it was Drift who said that, now more than ever, the Autobots should continue being who they are. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] insinuated that Drift had no right to say something like that, which started an argument that was only stopped by the return of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}

[[File:Thundercracker Drift.jpg|300px|thumb|"Another of your ill-timed jokes, Drift??" {{-}}
"... You and I are enemies now."]]

Drift took part in the battle against the Swarm and joined the others in escaping Cybertron in Omega Supreme. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}}. On Earth, he battled the Decepticons, and when [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] volunteered to divert the humans' nuclear bomb, Drift attempted to congratulate his former comrade on seeing the light. Thundercracker called him a traitor, slapping Drift's hand away and claiming he was merely following the Decepticons' ''true'' ideal.{{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

Two years later, Drift was still with the Autobots, hiding on Earth. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} After Optimus Prime left the Autobots, Drift decided to stay with the larger group, rather than leave with Rodimus and his fellow defectors. Drift celebrated Bumblebee's election with numerous other Autobots. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

At some point Drift traveled to [[Japan]] and did some drift racing all by himself. {{storylink|Drift issue 4|Drift #4}}

Drift was among the Autobots who confronted [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] and his troops when they crashed their ship in [[Las Vegas]], bringing with them a [[zombie]] invasion. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 1|Infestation #1}} The Autobots and Decepticons worked together to banish the zombies to the [[Dead Universe]], though Drift himself really just stood silently in the background the whole time. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 2|Infestation #2}}

Drift listened to [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] tell tales of, presumably, his time in space and accompanied Optimus Prime and many others to Cybertron aboard [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme's]] rocket form. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix}} Along the way, he and many others tried to listen in on a conversation between Optimus Prime and a captive Megatron. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} Later, Drift accompanied Optimus, Hot Rod, Ironhide, Sunstreaker, and Cliffjumper to Cybertron to confront Galvatron and his army. After a brief skirmish with Galvatron's forces, the landing party returned to the Autobot landing zone. As Drift pointed out that maybe Galvatron was telling the truth and he had been assembling his army for a reason, the Autobots were bathed in a red light... {{storylink| Chaos Part One: Lamentations}}

[[File:Drift Chaos Part3 Kings.jpg|left|200px|thumb|[[Fandom|We]] drove him to this...]]

-Which turned out to be a blast from the orbiting space station [[Kimia Facility|Kimia]], recently commandeered by Galvatron's forces. Optimus Prime handed out orders to combat this new threat, telling Drift and Sunstreaker to establish a base of operations. After the threat of Kimia had ended, Omega Supreme's rocket landed at this base-camp and Rodimus and Drift set out after Optimus Prime and Ironhide, who had left to locate Galvatron. {{storylink| Chaos Part Two: Numbers}}

At the crater that Kimia's main weapon had blown into the surface of the planet, Drift accompanied Optimus and the others underground. The Autobots finally intercepted Galvatron and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and Optimus Prime demanded their surrender. Galvatron claimed that the core of Cybertron had to be destroyed to save the universe, revealing the glowing [[Darkness (G1)|Heart of Darkness]] within his chest. At this, Drift began spouting gibberish and attacking his comrades in a maddened state, allowing for Galvatron and Jhiaxus to escape. The others attempted to restrain him, but Drift summoned what free will he had left and impaled himself on one of his own blades, much to Ironhide's horror. While Drift survived this, Ironhide told Prime that they'd have to evacuate him immediately for medical attention. {{storylink| Chaos Part Three: Kings}}

[[File:TDOOP-Drift.jpg|thumb|250px|There's no 'Cons in Cyberutopia, and the streets are made of Pocky.]]

After recovering, Drift's near-death experience had reawakened his spiritual side. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} Optimus Prime's return to Autobot camp three weeks later brought the discovery of a map inscribed inside the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Drift was consumed with the idea that the map gave directions to [[Cyberutopia]], the home of the [[Knights of Cybertron]]. Despite [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s insistence that the Knights of Cybertron never existed, Drift maintained that he had heard all about the Knights of Cybertron from Dai Atlas, and that the stories were true. Drift's passion for this discovery inspired [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] to assemble a team to leave the planet and find the Knights of Cybertron. {{Storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

At some point, Drift shed his Earth mode and took a more sleek, Cybertronian form for himself. Rodimus tasked himself with recruiting as many Autobots as he could to take off-planet and find the Knights of Cybertron. He was very good at working a crowd, though admittedly Drift wrote all of his speeches. The guy became the nominal third-in-command because, or so Ratchet said, he told Rodimus what he wanted to hear. Ratchet, older and grumpier than the pre-war days, was on the same ship as Drift and ''really'' had it in for him for everything the 'bot he'd saved had done with the life he'd given him. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}

Unbeknownst to Rodimus, Drift was part of a clandestine plan devised by Prowl to help the Autobots create their own [[Phase Sixer]]s. The captive and near-comatose [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] would secretly be brought along on the journey, a fact known only to Drift, [[Brainstorm]], and the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remembrance Day}}

After boarding their new craft, the ''[[Lost Light]]'', Drift had counted 208 total Autobots on board. (He also complimented Rodimus's latest speech.) Drift asked why [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] appeared displeased (more than usual) with the crew, and Ultra Magnus revealed that he felt most of them were practically criminals. (Drift himself was under high suspicion, though Ultra Magnus didn't say this out loud.) As launch was underway, Drift continued to act as Rodimus's right-hand man, and moments before takeoff, Drift brought to his attention the "[[Whirl (G1)|weapon of mass destruction]]" [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] had apparently brought on board. Something went wrong during takeoff, and the ship [[quantum jump]]ed before it was ready, placing the ship somewhere random in space, just over a planet. A tear in the hull was expelling Autobots into space, and as the ship stabilized, Drift named off the Autobots they'd lost. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}

[[File:Drift MTMTE2 positiveenergy.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"Before I begin, I should clarify that I am not actually Japa-nese! I am from Daytona Beachiryu!"]]
As recovery efforts were undertaken, Drift radioed Ratchet a status update and also to tell the medical officer to make sure the medibay was "buzzing with positive energy" so those injured were "guaranteed a speedy recovery!". After he had signed off, Ratchet and [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] shared their annoyance with Drift's new attitude and...''interesting'' theories about the Knights of Cybertron. Later, when Rodimus was deciding how to address the crew about their current situation, Drift cheerfully suggested he focus on the positive. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}

After a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] had thought to have been let loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', Drift accompanied Rodimus' hand-picked team to investigate. As they examined the creature's [[Shock|first victim]], [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] confirmed that it was indeed a Sparkeater and Drift opined that this was a dark omen and that they were being "punished" for the horrific things that must have happened on the ship before it came into their possession, much to Ratchet's skepticism.

While the others searched for the creature, Rodimus and Drift tried to figure out how the previous owners of the ''Lost Light'' kept the Sparkeater contained. They figured out that the Sparkeater had been trapped in the engine rooms and fed [[turbofox]]es to keep it docile. After the Sparkeater made its way back to the engine rooms, chasing [[Rung]], Drift helped Rodimus put his plan to kill the creature into action. Utilizing a second quantum jump, Rodimus managed to stuff the Sparkeater into the ship's engine block, where it died after being fused into the mechanism. Drift was awed by Rodimus' quick-thinking and ingenuity. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

[[File:Drift killsDent LifeAfterBigBang.jpg|thumb|230px|The purpose of Drift is to flip out and kill sick people.]]
Drift accompanied Ratchet and [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]] on an investigation of the remote medical facility [[Delphi]]. Drift was subjected to repeated verbal barbs from Ratchet along the way, despite his efforts to get along with the medic. Once they had finally reached Delphi, Pipes impulsively rammed through a door that had the universal "plague" symbol on it. They found themselves in a morgue full of Transformers that had died from a mysterious "[[Red Rust]]" virus. When Drift noticed a [[Dent|shambling, disease-ridden Transformer]] approaching Pipes from behind, he sprung into action and dismembered the poor soul, much to Ratchet's outrage.

[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] showed up and explained the situation to them, how five days ago, a mysterious explosion had heralded the outbreak of this rust plague. [[Ambulon]] brought them to [[Pharma]], who had been accidentally locked in a quarantine room when the explosion went off. Suddenly, Pipes began showcasing the symptoms of the virus and staggered toward them, disoriented and terrified. Pipes began vomiting and leaking from his optics, cornering Drift. Ratchet freed Pharma from the quarantine while telling Drift to non-fatally disable Pipes. Drift managed to slip behind his diseased comrade and knock him out with a blow to the head. Ratchet brought Pipes to the emergency ward, seeking to tend to him. By that time, Drift began to exhibit the symptoms as well, assuming he'd been infected by Pipes. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

While being tended to by Ratchet, Drift recalled the [[Shadowplay,_Part_1:_Post_Hoc|time in Rodion before the war]] when the Autobot medic had also been trying to save his life. Drift asked Ratchet to put him out of his misery in the event that the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] showed up, despite having earlier claimed that he wasn't afraid of them. When Pharma was revealed as a traitor, Ratchet had a confrontation with his former friend on Delphi's roof. The stricken Drift made his way up there and managed to save Ratchet from being shot in the back by chopping off Pharma's hands. With Ratchet having obtained a vaccine for the Red Rust virus from Pharma, Drift and the other victims were soon cured. Drift returned to the ''Lost Light'' along with the survivors. {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}} Drift reported to Rodimus and Ultra Magnus that [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] had locked himself in Rung's office. He was the first to notice both when Rung stared at the camera, and when he tapped on his model of the Ark. After the hostage situation had been resolved, Drift complimented Rodimus on the eulogy he gave for the gravely-injured Rung, even though he hadn't written that particular speech. {{storylink|Interiors}}

[[File:Drift Theophany MTMTEAnnual.jpg|left|thumb|200px|A fabulous secret [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]] was revealed to Drift the day he held aloft his magic sword and said...]]

En route to [[Theophany]], Drift helped Rodimus prepare for [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s [[Act of Affiliation]] ceremony, and politely pointed out his overuse of the phrase "[['Til all are one]]". When Ultra Magnus interrupted and expressed concern over a lack of radio contact with the Circle Of Light, Drift argued that they knew how to take care of themselves. Later at the ceremony, Rodimus inscribed a message in [[Old Cybertronian]] on Tailgate's chest instead of branding him with the Autobot sigil. Drift supposed that it was caused by some sort of possession, which was quickly dismissed by Ratchet as "complete and utter guff".

The ceremony was further interrupted by the arrival of the [[Galactic Council]]'s ship, ''[[The Benign Intervention]]''. Its [[K'gard|captain]] informed them that Theophany was deserted, much to Drift's disbelief. After some red-tape wrangling from Ultra Magnus, Drift and a group of others were allowed to teleport to the planet's surface, where they found Crystal City ruined and abandoned. Confused and agitated, a despairing Drift snapped at [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] and decked Whirl after the latter mocked him. He attempted to call out to any of the denizens of Crystal City, but when there was no response, Drift drove one of his swords into the ground in frustration. The ground gave way and sent the Autobots plunging underground, where they found a slumbering [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. This discovery led [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] to share his [[Guiding Hand|myth of creation]], which triggered a theological debate between Drift and Ratchet, culminating in Drift pulling his sword on Ratchet. Rodimus took Drift for a walk to cool him down, where Drift reaffirmed his faith in Rodimus.

After Chromedome's mnemosurgery reawakened the Metrotitan and made it fire its eye-beams at the ''Benign Intervention'', Drift was among those dispatched to fight off the Galactic Council's troops. The Metrotitan eventually teleported Drift and the others back onto the ''Lost Light'', which then quantum-jumped to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

A few days later, Drift and other crew members aided Rewind in helping heal Rung's dormant mind by telling his part in a story of past events. Drift elaborated on the time in Rodion when he was rescued by Orion Pax and treated by Ratchet, being sure to antagonize Ratchet by claiming he had uttered religious praises during that time. All the while, he was being pestered by calls from Rodimus, who finally ordered Drift to meet him in the oil reservoir. Drift arrived there just in time to see [[Grapple]] recover Red Alert's headless body from the reservoir. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}}

[[File:Ultra_Magnus-Cyclonus-Rodimus_and_Drift.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Of ''course'' Drift wants to get at the [[Wikipedia:Oni|''oni'']]-looking guy...]]

After the suspected assailant Cyclonus was sent to their makeshift interrogation room, Drift conducted a very hostile interrogation, pointing his sword at Cyclonus in a threatening manner. (Ultra Magnus later suggested Drift's overly enthusiastic interrogation was an unfortunate attempt to impress Rodimus.) The attempt didn't work, as Cyclonus quickly swatted the sword away and smashed Drift into a table. Rodimus and Ultra Magnus were forced to intervene and break the two of them up.{{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} First Aid soon discerned that Red Alert's "accident" was actually a suicide attempt, and Ultra Magnus suggested that the troubled security chief should be left in stasis until they could revive him in a less stressful environment. Rodimus railed against this, but when Drift agreed with Magnus, he sadly acquiesced. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}

The crew of the ''Lost Light'' intervened on [[Temptoria]], where a group of Decepticons had invaded and subjugated the local populace. A fierce battle erupted on the planet's surface, in which Drift cut down [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] and [[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]]. He also interrupted Rodimus' battle with [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snap Trap]], shoving a sword through the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]'s face. Rodimus chided him for butting in, but Drift protested that "the ones with swords" were his to fight. {{storylink|Before & After}} In the aftermath of the fight, Drift and Brainstorm revealed to Chromedome that Overlord was aboard, hidden in a specially-constructed room beneath the ship, and the [[mnemosurgery|mnemosurgeon]] agreed to interface with the dormant Phase-Sixer to learn the secret of his power. {{storylink|Remembrance Day}}

Drift was teaching Rodimus how to use a sword, forging a deeper friendship with his captain, when a possible security situation interrupted. However, it merely turned out to be Cyclonus singing loudly to Tailgate. Swerve asked Drift if he wanted to be ''his'' roommate but Drift, claiming to prefer solitude, declined. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}

[[File:Drift Overlord UnderColdBlueStars.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This can only end well!]]
During a mnemosurgery session, Chromedome was outsmarted by Overlord, who obtained from the Autobot's memory the security codes to his cell that Drift provided. Drift was one of the first Autobots to fight the escaped Overlord outside of the medibay, urging Ratchet to lock himself in. But Ratchet chose to stand with his "friend" and sealed them outside the room. By the time reinforcements arrived, Overlord had severed both of Drift's legs and badly beaten Ratchet. Drift radioed the ship's brig to release Fortress Maximus, but not before his Great Sword was used by Overlord to mortally-wound Ultra Magnus. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}}

After Overlord had been jettisoned from the ''Lost Light'', Drift protected the identities of fellow conspirators Brainstorm and Chromedome and claimed that the entire Overlord incident was his own fault alone. A furious Rodimus stripped him of his Autobot symbol and exiled him from the ship. As he walked towards the shuttle prepared for him, Drift was knocked down by a piece of debris hurled by an angry crew member. Ratchet helped him up, and Drift departed the ''Lost Light''. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

Eighteen months from the ''Lost Light''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s launch, the [[Necrobot]] had listed Drift as deceased... {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}

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===Robot Heroes===
[[File:IAmOptimusPrime-Drift.jpg|right|thumb|200px|He makes it so hard to like him and then he does this. So confused!]]
Drift was [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s friend and always let his actions speak louder than words. When the Autobots arrived on Earth, he hid himself in a lake. Upon Optimus's order, he transformed into his car mode to roll out. Later, when the Decepticons attacked, he pushed [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] over a tripwire held by some of the Autobots' [[human allies]]. {{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}
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===''United''===
A [[nano-virus]] infected the population of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] bar the [[Targetmaster]]s and [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. The former Decepticon Drift was able to force off, or at least hold off, the effects of the nano-virus, so he was charged with guarding the city unaided while the other immune Autobots left to retrieve a cure from [[Nebulos]]. When [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] returned with the anti-virus, Drift was in attendance when Optimus Prime praised the Targetmaster. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:Generations Drift toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Comes with a gun that shoots swords.]]
*'''Autobot Drift''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Left & right "dual swords", greatsword

:''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Drift transforms into a cross between an [[Wikipedia:Nissan Silvia#S15|Nissan Silvia S15]] and the [[Wikipedia:Mitsubishi FTO|Mitsubishi FTO]]. In vehicle mode, Drift's two shorter "dual swords" store inside his doors (which double as his hip sheaths during robot mode), while the larger sword stores in a set of grooves on the underside of his vehicle (also used in robot mode). It can also be stored (in robot mode) in the doors where the windows fold up. Behind his windshield kibble is his pre-Earth chest design, in a nod to the form Drift had been seen in almost exclusively at the time of the toy's unveiling. Due to his ball jointed wrists, Drift is one of the few Transformers figures that can hold a sword with a two-handed grip. Left unmentioned in the instructions is that the clip that holds his large sword is on a small concealed arm that allows the sword to move away from his back and out of the way of his legs and shoulders. Drift's swords are made from a kid-friendly flexible material, and therefore care must be taken to avoid warping. His hand holes are slightly larger than 5mm, but taper toward the bottom.

:While Drift's Earth mode designs showed him sporting the katakana ドリフト (''Dorifuto'') on his car doors, the toy instead sports the kanji 侍 (''samurai''). The large sword sports the kanji 天下無双 (''tenka musō'', "peerless under heaven", or just "peerless" if you're not feeling idiomatic. It can also mean "armed under providence").

: Drift's mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Blurr (G1)#Generations|Blurr]] and was [[redeco]]ed, with Blurr's pistols also being included, into [[Drift (SG)|Shattered Glass Drift]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/Drift/drift.htm More information on Autobot Drift at TFU.info]''
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===United===
[[File:United AutobotDrift toy.jpg|thumb|300px|I am the white void, I am the cold steel, I am the just sword, with blade in hand I shall reap the sins of this world and cleanse it in the fires of destruction! I am Drift, the end has come!]]
*'''Autobot Drift''' (Deluxe, [[December 25|12-25]]-2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''UN-08'''
**''Accessories'': Left & right "dual swords", greatsword

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers United]]'' toys, the [[TakaraTomy]] release of "Autobot Drift" is cast in a brighter white plastic, a cooler gray, and features more paint applications in vehicle mode, and on his head, arms and chest to make him more accurate to his comic book appearances. The light red of the Hasbro version is now more crimson in color and the sword's gray is slightly altered from the Hasbro release.
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==Notes==
* Commenting on what inspired him to create Drift, writer/creator [[Shane McCarthy]] said that "I wanted a character in AHM that had a particular element to him that I didn't see readily available elsewhere and secondly because, frankly, I thought it would be a great idea for Hasbro to have an Autobot Drift racer."<ref>[http://www.smactalk.com.au/?p=101 Shane McCarthy blogs about Spotlight: Drift.]</ref> He later said he wanted to show what'd happen [[:Category:Turncoats|if a former Decepticon became an Autobot]].<ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=11723 Podcast interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref> Drift's Japanese overtones are meant to be a tip of the hat "to the country that gave birth to [''Transformers'']."<ref>[http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18585 Comic Book Resources October 27th, 2008 interview with Shane McCarthy]</ref>
* Drift's name is derived from the Japanese driving technique of "[[wikipedia:Drifting (motorsport)|drifting]]," rendered in Japanese as ドリフト走行 (''dorifuto sōkō''). This is also the source of the Japanese katakana writing on his car mode doors and in Chris Ryall's announcement;<ref>[http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html "ドリフト走行*" entry in Chris Ryall's blog]</ref> it is a transliteration of his English name and is not from Japanese fiction.
* Discarded [http://guidoarts.deviantart.com/art/DRIFT-early-sketches-93573360 body designs] and [http://guidoarts.deviantart.com/art/DRIFT-early-head-sketches-93574266 head designs] for Drift can be found on [http://guidoarts.deviantart.com Guido Guidi's DeviantArt page.]
* [[IDW Publishing]] initially claimed that Drift had been solicited by [[Hasbro]] to receive a toy in the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' line. This may have been premature, as it was followed several months later with a denial, albeit from Hasbro's Australian offices.<ref>[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=3438 Ozformers Q&A with Hasbro Australia]</ref> This was rebutted by IDW editor [[Chris Ryall]] at [[New York Comic Con]] 2009, denied again in the March 2009 Hasbro Q&A for Seibertron.com,<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/hasbro-answers-seibertrons-questions/15360 Hasbro March 2009 Q&A on Seibertron.com]</ref> and finally acknowledged by Hasbro at [[BotCon 2009]] when early design sketches were unveiled for Drift's toy. The toy itself was first shown at [[Toy Fair 2010]].
* As you might have guessed from some of the captions on this page, Drift is a fairly unpopular character among certain parts of the [[fandom]]. Basically, he's frequently viewed as generic stereotypical fan-created character with Japanese samurai/ninja stereotypes added in for maximum awesomeness. The main reason given by fans for their criticism, however, is the initial hype the character was given by its creator and IDW, which fans believe created a massive [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HypeBacklash hype backlash] for the reasons listed above. Many fans think that while Drift's actual fictional appearances aren't nearly as bad as the most vocal critics make him out to be, he certainly fails to live up to the hype. In fact, a lot of former critics feel that the later interpretation of the character by author [[James Roberts]] is actually quite decent, [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap redeeming the once stereotypical character] - so much so, in fact, that the character's become a bit of an [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorse] at this point.

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]
[[Category:United Autobots]]

Talk:Predacons Rising (Prime)

2013-10-08T03:07:58Z

SoundWave:

Wouldn't this just be at Predacons Rising (Prime)? We don't include the cartoon name for the Beast Wars II movie. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:44, 23 March 2013 (EDT)
:Ok, gimme a sec and I'll get right on that. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 10:11, 23 March 2013 (EDT)
::This should be disambiggened with the toyline too, right?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:20, 5 June 2013 (EDT)
== Plot ==
According to a very reliable source, Unicron takes over Megatrons body and trys to conquer cybertron forcing the autobots and predacons to make an alliance. If you wondering how unicron gets awakened, think about the [[Dark Star Saber|hunge shard of dark energon that fell off the omega lock]]. When that lands on earth it will cause a chain reaction. If some pros want to put any of this on the page be my guest, but ''I'' cannot find the right words...does anyone want to know what the reliable source is?[[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 10:44, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
:Yes, the fandom's been aware of that DVD synopsis for a while now. However, considering it has large spoilers for 'Deadlock', which only aired a few days ago, we should probably hold off adding it to this page for a little while longer. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 11:12, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
::That is a most logical conclusion. Thats why i put it on the talk page. Understood. One week perhaps? [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 12:00, 29 July 2013 (EDT)
If anything, I say this is to do with the Predacons. I guess this takes place after the events of [[Deadlock]]. Can anyone say, "The seeds of the future lie burried in the past?" [[User:Legacyman]]
:::Thank you Captian Obvious! Not name-calling but that was a little, no, really redundant^^^^ [[User:Shado prime|--Shado Prime]] 18:20, 2 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Uh, that probably isn't the most tactful of phrases. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:44, 2 October 2013 (EDT)

== Just a heads up ==

The movie has been leaked. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 06:13, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:For the love of weasels. We should lock this page down, maybe? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:30, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
::Yeah. Cause if we don't, it's going to be one hell of an edit war. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 11:26, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
What are we waiting for, why not update the description? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 12:42, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:We don't do leaks. We wait for the scheduled date. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 12:44, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
::Oh. But why? {{unsigned|SoundWave}}
:::It's a policy. You wouldn't want to go around ruining something that they haven't seen yet. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 12:48, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::Additionally, TFWiki doesn't condone the illegal distribution of copyrighted material. Same way we don't fill out toy entries based on stolen factory samples, and so on. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:49, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::That too. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 12:51, 14 September 2013 (EDT)

== Starscream's Fate ==
One thing I didn't get was Starscream killed by the Predacons? It seemed rather ambiguous if you ask me.
--[[User:Dean3|Dean3]] 00:13, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
:That's why the write-ups are being deliberately vague about the "settling old scores" part. Just to be on the safe side, we only take a definite stance when the fiction is unambiguous about it. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 00:27, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
:Yeah, the ambiguity was pretty much the point. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:20, 7 October 2013 (EDT)

==Predacon Terrorcon article? ==

Are we going to create a new article for Predacon Terrorcons? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 23:07, 7 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Predaking (Prime)

2013-10-07T22:52:46Z

SoundWave:

So, hey, is Beast Hunters a new franchise? Do we need to move Predaking's page to a new disambig? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:43, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
:Well, the branding seems to be ''Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters'', so I suppose it's more of a subline-imprint than a whole new franchise... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:17, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
::Does that mean it gets its own page? If it does, I'll be happy to create it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 19:06, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

== Observation ==

Just an observation, it feels like this guy is made to replace Dreadwing, as he follows Megatron with blind devotion, cares deeply for his brethren and Megatron is keeping seecrets about there demise from him.

== Voyager toy observances. ==

So, being polite (I didn't want to directly edit the page and add stuff without, you know, putting it here first) and having the toy in hand...

*He has a LOT of rubbery plastic that likes to deform (Some in the box, the beastmode head on mine is warped and I have no idea how it's supposed to look 'normally'). Presumably the Takara release will have hard plastic?
*His rocket launchers have a gear-mesh system that allows you to plug them together and fire them at the same time... But this function doesn't work in beastmode, the plugs on his shoulders are too wide to allow the gears to mesh. Which is somewhat perplexing as this presumably would be the entire point of the gear-mesh system?
*Finally, his tail-sword is a neat idea, but doesn't really work, his hands (Being rubbery plastic) don't have enough friction or room for the tabs to hold the sword functionally like in the promo pictures. It tends to just flop out of his hand if you place it there.

On that note, the Promo-picture is miss transformed in robot mode, he should have a black spike erected on either shoulder.

On a more childish/awesome note, with his rocket launchers on his arms, he looks like he has dragon-headed fists, complete with fireball punches.

--[[User:Slift|Slift]] 21:53, 3 April 2013 (EDT)

: It seems that, like many figures that use soft plastic, HOW soft the plastic is varies by case and even parts. My Predaking has fairly solid but flexible plastic on his head, and almost Play-Doh for hands. It takes a clear packaging band to hold it in place properly. QC got a little lax on this one. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:08, 19 April 2013 (EDT)

== Beast Fire ==

Is the Beast Fire Predaking definitely part of Beast Hunters, and not Predacons Rising? Or is there two releases of the same figure?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 12:38, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

== Titles ==

*G12: プレダコン悪鬼大帝 (Predacon Demon Emperor)
*G23: 究極悪鬼大帝 (Ultimate Demon Emperor)

Applies for Dragotron and Guren Dragotron, if the split happens.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:48, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:The former's been written on here as "Evil Oni Emperor", so I guess the latter would be "Ultimate Evil Oni Emperor", then. Good to know, thanks. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:54, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::Akki's already one word, though, it's not two. The "-ki" is probably meant to tie into the Four Oni, but unlike those four its box doesn't actually call it an Oni (whereas the Four Oni's profiles say they transform from 'Dragon Mode' to 'Oni' [http://www.eptoy.com/images/product/2530_2.jpg]). If you want to differentiate it from Akuma, "Fiend" is also an acceptable translation.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 20:57, 18 September 2013 (EDT)

== Main Pic==

Could we change the main pic to a robot screenshot? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:52, 7 October 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Shockwave (WFC)

2013-10-07T22:50:43Z

SoundWave: /* Beast Hunters Shockwave image */

==Steve Blum Voice Credit==
What is the source for Steve Blum being Shockwave's voice actor? -- [[User:Servitor 2152|Servitor 2152]] 01:01, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:He's listed as such in the DS game's credits. Not sure about the console/PC version. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:56, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Was that Corey Burton voicing him in the commercial? [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 22:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

[http://www.coreyburton.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=853&sid=3992b18086e21d8f6face60940505757 Apparently, it was Burton in the commercial.] Don't know why the developers said they got a soundalike... maybe to mess with us. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:59, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
:The Fall of Cybertron launch trailer sounds like Victor Caroli's doing his voice. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 17:44, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
::No, that is defintely Steve Blum's voice. Victor Caroli is not involved with this game, nor was he with the first game. Steve Blum voiced Shockwave (and the narrator) in WFC, and is reprising his role in FOC. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:54, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
:::Then Steve Blum does a spot-on Victor Caroli impression; it sounds just like the old commercial bumpers. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 19:03, 17 August 2012 (EDT)
::::That is the power of Blum. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 20:31, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

==Prime Cartoon==
I saw that at the end of Shockwave's Hall of Fame video it showed a few seconds of a Prime style Shockwave in a future episode. Shouldn't we mention that?
:On a side note, is it fair to move this to (Prime) anyway as part of the Aligned continuity?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 11:34, 17 May 2012 (EDT)
::Pages only go under (Prime) if they appear the the TF Prime franchise, it's not a catch-all for Aligned things. I guess this will get moved once he appears on the show, since I think we're ignoring the usual 'first franchise they appeared in' rule with Prime to avoid confusion. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:32, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

==Alt Mode==
Is the alt mode for the Shockwave figure featured anywhere in fiction or is it exclusive to the toy?[[Special:Contributions/68.63.100.204|68.63.100.204]] 20:11, 12 August 2012 (EDT)
: It's featured in the video game in which he debuted, and from which his toy takes its likeness. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:43, 12 August 2012 (EDT)
::I thought he was a jet in that game. Did he have another alt mode at some point?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 11:52, 13 August 2012 (EDT)
:::The toy is a jet. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 13 August 2012 (EDT)
:::He was a jet in the game, and the toy turns into that jet, even if the packaging describes it as a mobile artillery mode, or something. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:09, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

==Shockwave's Arm==
Worth noting, I looked up the cutscene where Grimlock ripped Shockwave's arm off, after comparing it to his laser cannon arm and noticed the entry incorrectly states it is his right arm that gets torn off when it is in fact his left. -- [[Special:Contributions/Jase1505|Jase1505]] 23:25, 2 September 2012 (EDT)
: I think you're right, per http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5vK8CCBUKc. [[User:Excise|Excise]] 21:40, 31 January 2013 (EST)
Dude.....its shockwaves left arm that gets torn off.....the right one is one the control panel

=="Prime" Alt. Mode==
I'm not sure if it's just my eyes playing tricks on me, but Shockwave appears to have tank treads, or atleast large tires, as kibble. Most notable when his foot first appears in-frame. The back of his heal ''seems'' to be a tire. Worth noting, as his alt. mode in Fall of Cybertron is a jet? [[User:RazorSlash|RazorSlash]] 20:49, 2 September 2012 (EDT)
Maybe he just switched forms with soundwave as soundwave is a jet in prime?

== Should be left the same ==

Most characters who first appeared War for Cybertron who are now regular characters in Transformers: Prime have the "(Prime)" tag at the end of their article title. Shockwave will be a regular character in season 3 (as far as we know) so it should be left as is. {{unsigned|Emperor of Terror Scorponok}}
:Doesn't matter. Much like [[Sideways (RID)]], it's the franchise he debuted in that gets the disambig. Bumblebee, Prime, Ratchet, etc all also have move tags to move them to the WFC versions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:43, 14 December 2012 (EST)

== ''Beast Hunters'' Shockwave image ==

[[Image:Shockwave CGI Packaging 1.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Salute!]]
Not really sure what to do with this, so I'll just leave it here in case it's needed. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 07:51, 24 February 2013 (EST)

We should make this the main pic. [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:43, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
:No, we really shouldn't. It's really freaking terrible. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:46, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
:Maybe we could at least add it to the end? [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:50, 7 October 2013 (EDT)

User talk:SoundWave

2013-10-07T22:44:31Z

SoundWave:

User talk:SoundWave

2013-10-07T22:43:45Z

SoundWave:

Talk:Shockwave (WFC)

2013-10-07T22:43:01Z

SoundWave: /* Beast Hunters Shockwave image */