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Talk:Anode

2016-12-17T18:26:34Z

Stealthyboy:

I don't Anode is a Camien because Lug specifically calls Cybertron home. - [[User: Jcbynum1|Jcbynum1]] 15:04, 15 December 2016 (EST)
:Perhaps Lug is from Cybertron and Anode is from Caminus.[[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:05, 16 December 2016 (EST)
:: Lug talks about Cybertron specifically as home, referring to both of them, not my home. [[User:Jcbynum1|Jcbynum1]] 10:16, 16 December 2016 (EST)
:: Why would she be a Camien? Because she's female? There are female transformers on all the colony worlds, it's not like Caminus is Femtopia or anything. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 13:26, 17 December 2016 (EST)

Optimus Maximus (G1)

2016-09-07T17:27:49Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3.5|the Generation 1 Autobot combiner|the ''Prime'' battle station|Optimus Maximus (Prime)|Optimus}}
{{disambig3|Maximus}}
:''Optimus Maximus is an [[Autobot]] [[combiner]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:GenerationsOptimusMaximus-packageart.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"By your powers combined, I am Captain Cybertron!"]]
The mighty '''Optimus Maximus''' was [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s last-ditch attempt to protect the world of [[Caminus]]—and perhaps the entire galaxy—from [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s political machinations. Every Autobot involved in the combination process brings some of their own unique traits to the composite individual that is Optimus Maximus – the dependability of Ironhide, the strategic genius of Prowl, Mirage's cloaking powers, the courage of Optimus Prime and Sunstreaker's... good looks.

Optimus Maximus is the combined form of several [[Autobot]]s:

*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]

Sometimes [[Hot Rod|Rodimus]] joins in too.

He's not [[Ultra Prime]]!

{{bigquote|We are OPTIMUS MAXIMUS! We are the defender of all sentient beings!|Optimus Maximus pulls himself together|"[[All That Remains]]"}}
{{--}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Optimusmaximus.jpg|thumb|left|200px|'Til all are one.]]
After Prowl's first two attempts at stopping Starscream ended in his arrest, he fell back on his contingency plan: roping [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] into stealing the [[Enigma of Combination]] and delivering it to his cell—just as Ironhide, Mirage, and Sunstreaker arrived to meet with Optimus Prime. Although Optimus tried to stop Rattrap, he activated the Enigma. The five Autobots were exposed to its energy, merging them into a new, combined form. With Prowl in control, the new combiner headed through the unstable [[space bridge]] portal, vowing to end the conflict once and for all. {{storylink|You, Me, and the Universe}}

[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] was not impressed with Prowl's "upgrade", and made his displeasure clear by clobbering him. Within, the other Autobots struggled against Prowl's analytical personality, weakening the combination and causing them to collapse.[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] were forced to help the struggling gestalt against Devastator and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]'s onslaught. Within the combiner's psyche, Optimus and Prowl finally reached a grudging understanding. As the brawling combiners bounced from world to world, the five separate minds united... causing the reinvigorated combiner to declare himself Optimus Maximus!

The three combiners managed to surround Devastator as they reappeared at Cybertron and tore him apart, reducing him to his components. With both combiners defeated, Optimus Maximus willingly separated himself so that Prowl could be arrested. Since Prowl was now in custody, a saddened Superion mused that Optimus Maximus might never form again. {{storylink|All That Remains}}

Prowl taunted Optimus Prime after his arrest, stating that their time together as Optimus Maximus meant that a part of Prowl would always exist in Prime's mind. {{storylink|Now and On Earth}}

Mirage also returned to the ''[[Lost Light]]'' along with the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], making any future formations of Optimus Maximus even more unlikely. {{storylink|The Transgressors}}

The brawl between Optimus Maximus and Devastator unfortunately led the inhabitants of the Metrotitan [[Carcer]] to conclude that Cybertronians were conquerors only interested in exploiting other civilizations. {{storylink|The Will of the Few}}
{{-}}

==Games==
[[File:Devastation-OptimusMaximus.jpg|thumb|right|250px|And just wait until you see all the add-ons!]]
===''Transformers: Devastation''===
After the incident with the [[Ferrotaxis]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] mused to [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] about ending the war once and for all. They then both looked at a set of combiner schematics on a computer screen, depicting Optimus Maximus. {{storylink|Transformers: Devastation}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:Battle-Tactics-Optimus-Maximus.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.33]]
Optimus Maximus participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He could be recruited if all six of his components were at max level. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-CW-Optimus-Maximus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Voted "most likely to be customized into the [[Turbomaster]]s".]]
*'''Sunstreaker''' (Deluxe, 2015)
*'''Mirage''' (Deluxe, 2015)
*'''Battle Core Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2015)
*'''Prowl''' (Deluxe, 2015)
*'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe, 2015)
*'''Rodimus''' (Legends, 2015)

:Optimus Maximus is a combiner made up of four Deluxe Class figures ([[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys#Generations|Sunstreaker]], [[Mirage (G1)#CombinerWars|Mirage]], [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Generations|Prowl]], and [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Ironhide]]) as limbs, a Voyager Class figure ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BattleCoreOP|Battle Core Optimus Prime]]) as the torso, and the usual Legends Class figure ([[Hot Rod/toys#Generations|Rodimus]]) to complete the set, all as part of the ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' subline. As per the other combiners in the line, any deluxe toy can become an arm or a leg, and each deluxe figure comes with weapons that can become hands or feet for the combined mode. Whether by coincidence or design, all of Optimus Maximus's components are [[retool]]s of the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]]s, essentially making him a retool of [[Menasor (G1)#Generations|Menasor]].

:Unfortunately, due to using the Voyager mold shared among Battle Core Optimus Prime's fellow moldmates, Motormaster and the standard Optimus Prime, Optimus Maximus suffers from great instability issues when combined.
{{-}}

===Unite Warriors===
[[File:TF-UW05-Convoy-Grand-Prime.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Energon fans, start customizing!]]
*'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (Multi-pack, [[2016]]-[[February 27|02-27]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''UW-05'''
**''Accessories'' Weapons, 4 Foot/Hand/Guns

:Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). He has numerous changes in deco to better match their component's appearances in the Generation 1 cartoon. Like ''Unite Warriors'' [[Menasor (G1)#Unite Warriors|Menasor]], the set also features some minor improvements to the original sculpts, such as improved hip-ratchets for Optimus Prime for increased stability.

:Printed on his instructions is the fifth chapter of ''[[Unite Warriors Offshot]]''. Undocumented in the instructions, ''Unite Warriors'' Optimus Prime's chest can attach [[Runabout (Adventure)|''Adventure'' Runabout]] (Or his mold mates [[Blackjack]] and Rodimus) on his combined mode chest.

:The giftset also includes a collector commemorative coin when purchased in select retailers outside Japan.
{{-}}

==Notes==
* In his first comic appearance, Optimus Maximus appears with the red and blue torso colors of the original ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Prime toy. The subsequent issue, meanwhile, swaps out the blue for Battle Core Optimus's white and gold parts whilst retaining all the red, presumably as a compromise to promote the new toy whilst not completely ignoring the previous instalment.
* Maximus's limbs call to mind [[:File:TwoHeros optimus supermode.jpg |''Energon'' Optimus Prime's super-mode]], with a white limb (Prowl), a yellow limb (Sunstreaker), a blue limb (Mirage), and an orange limb (Ironhide... kinda). [[TakaraTomy]] would take advantage of this when releasing their "Convoy Grand Prime" set, putting the limbs in the standard configuration of the [[Prime Force]] drones for art and stock photos and fully painting the ''Energon''-inspired sculpting on Optimus's torso mode.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Convoy Grand Prime''' (コンボイグランドプライム ''Konboi Gurando Puraimu'')

[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Combiner Wars]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Unite Warriors Autobots]]

Bombast

2016-09-02T13:48:49Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|autobot}}
:''Bombast is a [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Universe]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[File:Bombast.png|thumb|upright=1.4|She call me Mr. Boombastic say me fantastic]]
A heavyweight explosive specialist, '''Bombast''' is notorious around the trenches as an Autobot who levels the playing field. With one serious arsenal of grenades, rockets and landmines he's got the hardware for hard-times and lays Decepticons to junk.

==Games==
===''Transformers Universe''===
Bombast was among the Autobots who were on board the ''[[Arclight (ship)|Arclight]]'' when it was shot down over [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]]. He survived the crash and proceeded to take part in a series of battles against the Decepticons who had come to [[Earth]] aboard the ''[[Leviathan]]''. {{storylink|Transformers Universe}}

<gallery widths=200px>
File:Bombast-poster.jpg
File:Bombast2.png

</gallery>
{{-}}

==Notes==
* He was apparently leaked after a couple of users on the Transformers Universe forums began tweaking around with the generic web address for all the model images for [[Autobot]] and [[Decepticon]] Warriors. However, his promotional poster was posted on Lauren Plews site sometime ago before March 2014. <ref>http://www.laurenplews.com/transformers/</ref>
*In the promotional poster, Bombast has "AO12" next to his name, indicating he was meant to be the 12th Autobot released in the initial roster. However his release was replaced by [[Swagger]].

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Transformers Universe game Autobots]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Council of Worlds

2016-09-01T17:07:25Z

Stealthyboy: /* Combiner Wars cartoon */

:''The Council of Worlds is a polity from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:NewWorldsOrder-CouncilOfWorlds.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Let's hope they don't need any more delegates later! They'll need a new table!]]

The '''Council of Worlds''', not to be confused with the [[Galactic Council]], is a body where Cybertron and its scattered Transformer colonies can come together, governing their interaction and integration for the good of all members.

It's not going too well.

==Members==
{{collist|3|
*High Chancellor [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]—head
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]—delegate for [[Republic of Cybertron|Cybertron]]
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]—delegate for [[Caminus]]
*[[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]] and [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]]—delegates for [[Velocitron]]
*[[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] and [[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]]—delegates for [[Devisiun]]
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]]—delegates for [[Eukaris]]
*[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]—delegates for [[Carcer]]
}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:MistakesAndMayhem-CouncilOfWorldsconference.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Does this make Optimus Prime [[Mace Windu]] and Starscream [[Palpatine]]?]]

After the conclusion of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and the foiling of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]]'s attempted [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|ascension]], the newly-returned First [[Titan (IDW)|Titan]] [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] located five of his siblings; eons ago, these thirteen Titans had departed [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and founded colonies. While merged with Metroplex's mind, [[Caminus|Camien]] [[cityspeaker]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] caught glimpses of these scattered colonies, some of whom had diverged wildly from ancestral Cybertronian stock during their isolation. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade vol. 1 #4}}

After Windblade and Wheeljack repaired Metroplex's [[space bridge]], [[Republic of Cybertron]] High Chancellor [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'s government began preparing to make "first contact" with the colonies, starting with the impoverished [[Caminus]].

When it was clear that Starscream planned to annex Caminus into a new empire, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] began to push him to form a council of representatives from each colony. Starscream ignored this {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} until Optimus cannily said how Starscream was ''so'' gonna do it and it was ''his own idea'' right in front of the cameras. The disgruntled High Chancellor agreed. {{storylink|The Possible Light}}

The first problem was to work out how the Council would work when [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and Starscream were the only two representatives so far. The suggestion of Optimus as a tiebreaker was seen as unacceptable because Camiens viewed him as a living god, giving him ''two'' votes and allowing him to run the body; Starscream's demand that Cybertron had "a final say in all things" was equally unacceptable to Windblade. A decision was, however, reached over [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] attack. Prowl would be imprisoned on Caminus before facing trial for crimes under both planets' laws. {{storylink|Mistakes and Mayhem}}

In the end, political wrangling ensured [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] was the representative of Cybertron and Starscream was the head. This was meant to give Starscream de facto control but he was unaware that Rattrap, having been working for Prowl, was secretly working for Optimus now. {{storylink|All That Remains}} {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}} Prowl continued to argue that this was only leading to a reborn [[Decepticon Empire]] under Starscream (while Rattrap schemed to knock out Starscream before his dealings were exposed). [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], however, believed it would eventually force Cybertron to write up a constitution for itself. {{storylink|Now and On Earth}}

Caminus and Cybertron opened their borders and enjoyed cultural, economic, and personal gain as a result. It was also noticed that a number of former Decepticons were emigrating to Caminus to escape the prejudice they suffered on Cybertron, even as Camiens moved to Cybertron. {{storylink|Now and On Earth}} [[Velocitron]], however, rejected membership in the Council (or even diplomatic relations) as it felt there was nothing to gain. Windblade schmoozed their diplomats and took a team through behind Starscream's back to ensure union. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}} A bit of cheating and showmanship convinced Velocitron to join the Council after all. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}

While Windblade was doing all of this, Starscream went off with [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to explore the planet [[Devisiun]]. The inhabitants of Devisiun were quite impressed by Starscream's combiner and happily joined the Council, sending [[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] and [[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]] as their ambassadors. Tired of the back-and-forth power plays, Windblade confronted Starscream about his deception; the two agreed to travel to [[Eukaris]], the next colony world, together. The inhabitants of Eukaris proved supremely distrustful of vehicular Transformers from Cybertron, although Windblade's status as a Camien permitted her to argue her case to the assembled tribal leaders. After the two offworlders helped to put down the berserk Titan [[Chela]], Eukaris also agreed to join the Council, sending the outcasts [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]] as delegates. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

[[File:TheWillOfTheFew-councilofworlds.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Let's hope it turns out better than that [[Galactic Republic|other council of worlds]]. ]]

The final colony which Metroplex located was [[Carcer]], a spaceborne Titan. Starscream and Windblade tried to parley favour with the Titan's captain, [[Elita One]]. Although Starscream's brash remarks quickly turned Elita hostile, Windblade persuaded them to join the Council to counter Starscream's political influence. Two weeks later, [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] joined the council, with the scene being broadcast on Cybertron's news service. {{storylink|The Will of the Few}}

As the council took shape, a Justice Committee was established for legal issues between two colonies. {{storylink|07:00:00}}

In a desperate attempt to force the Transformers' war off [[Earth]], Optimus (after hearing a lot about his Prime state from believers like [[Victorion]] and [[Aileron]]) decided to unilaterally declare Earth a member of the Council. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 4: Perihelion|Perihelion}}

This naturally upset Starscream, who held an emergency meeting with the other members of the Council. Windblade was willing to give Optimus the benefit of the doubt, although she agreed with Starscream's refusal to grant Optimus or Earth a seat on the Council, maintaining that the Council should only govern interactions between Transformer-populated planets. {{storylink|New Worlds Order}}

The Council convened to meet with Optimus and hear him out. Although Prime insisted that his intentions were pure, Starscream brought up the long history of other [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s who had abused their power and privilege, arguing that Optimus was just the latest in a long lineage of morally dubious Primes. Ultimately, the Council voted against allowing Earth a seat on the council. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}}

[[File:TAAO1 CouncilOfWorlds.jpg|thumb|right|400px|]]
The Council convened for a Justice Committee session in response to a series of [[Mnemosurgery|mnemosurgical]] attacks on Cybertronian Decepticons, including a part supplier for Carcer: this foreign connection was the thin end of the wedge that Obsidian used to claim it was council business and not internal Cybertronian. Despite Starscream's reluctance to cede any authority to investigate a crime on Cybertron, the Council moved to have [[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]] investigate the crime spree. {{storylink|07:00:00}} Airazor and Obsidian would grouse that this matter showed Cybertronian politics was a mess, but Obsidian noted they had no choice but to solve it. As further police violence sparked counter-violence across Iacon, the delegates thought little of Starscream's plans to stamp on it and instead gave the final pressure for Starscream to put Ironhide in control of the Cybertronian Security Forces, with a mandate to reform it and expand the membership outside of Starscream's control (not that he could complain about that!). {{storylink|Applicable Skills}}

When news footage came in of Optimus raising a ''bloody Titan'' on Earth, and the MIA [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] at that, an emergency meeting was held. Starscream endured it in anger, as the Titan seemed to prove Earth was a genuine colony planet and Optimus's ability to raise it apparently authenticated the divine rightness of his actions as a "true" Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}

===''Combiner Wars'' cartoon===
The Council, consisting of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and the [[Mistress of Flame]], ruled over post-war [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and [[Caminus]]. Following a battle between [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] on Caminus, the Council debated using the [[Enigma of Combination]] to create their own [[combiner]] army. Rodimus favored using the Enigma while Starscream was more resistant to the idea. Before a decision could be made, a failed attempt to destroy the Enigma by [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] resulted in Starscream being injured and the police force being put on high alert. {{storylink|The Council}} [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]], Windblade and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] later attacked the Council's chambers together in order to destroy the Enigma and were engaged by their automated defenses, but they were interrupted by the surprise appearence by [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], who tore off Rodimus's arm. {{storylink|Homecoming (CW)|Homecoming}}

[[Category:IDW Generation 1]]
[[Category:Transformer governments]]

Council of Worlds

2016-09-01T17:00:28Z

Stealthyboy: /* Members */ Chromia isn't a delegate, she's Windblade's bodyguard.

:''The Council of Worlds is a polity from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:NewWorldsOrder-CouncilOfWorlds.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Let's hope they don't need any more delegates later! They'll need a new table!]]

The '''Council of Worlds''', not to be confused with the [[Galactic Council]], is a body where Cybertron and its scattered Transformer colonies can come together, governing their interaction and integration for the good of all members.

It's not going too well.

==Members==
{{collist|3|
*High Chancellor [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]—head
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]—delegate for [[Republic of Cybertron|Cybertron]]
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]—delegate for [[Caminus]]
*[[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]] and [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]]—delegates for [[Velocitron]]
*[[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] and [[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]]—delegates for [[Devisiun]]
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]]—delegates for [[Eukaris]]
*[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]—delegates for [[Carcer]]
}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:MistakesAndMayhem-CouncilOfWorldsconference.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Does this make Optimus Prime [[Mace Windu]] and Starscream [[Palpatine]]?]]

After the conclusion of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and the foiling of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]]'s attempted [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|ascension]], the newly-returned First [[Titan (IDW)|Titan]] [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] located five of his siblings; eons ago, these thirteen Titans had departed [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and founded colonies. While merged with Metroplex's mind, [[Caminus|Camien]] [[cityspeaker]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] caught glimpses of these scattered colonies, some of whom had diverged wildly from ancestral Cybertronian stock during their isolation. {{storylink|Windblade issue 4|Windblade vol. 1 #4}}

After Windblade and Wheeljack repaired Metroplex's [[space bridge]], [[Republic of Cybertron]] High Chancellor [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'s government began preparing to make "first contact" with the colonies, starting with the impoverished [[Caminus]].

When it was clear that Starscream planned to annex Caminus into a new empire, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] began to push him to form a council of representatives from each colony. Starscream ignored this {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}} until Optimus cannily said how Starscream was ''so'' gonna do it and it was ''his own idea'' right in front of the cameras. The disgruntled High Chancellor agreed. {{storylink|The Possible Light}}

The first problem was to work out how the Council would work when [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and Starscream were the only two representatives so far. The suggestion of Optimus as a tiebreaker was seen as unacceptable because Camiens viewed him as a living god, giving him ''two'' votes and allowing him to run the body; Starscream's demand that Cybertron had "a final say in all things" was equally unacceptable to Windblade. A decision was, however, reached over [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] attack. Prowl would be imprisoned on Caminus before facing trial for crimes under both planets' laws. {{storylink|Mistakes and Mayhem}}

In the end, political wrangling ensured [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] was the representative of Cybertron and Starscream was the head. This was meant to give Starscream de facto control but he was unaware that Rattrap, having been working for Prowl, was secretly working for Optimus now. {{storylink|All That Remains}} {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}} Prowl continued to argue that this was only leading to a reborn [[Decepticon Empire]] under Starscream (while Rattrap schemed to knock out Starscream before his dealings were exposed). [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], however, believed it would eventually force Cybertron to write up a constitution for itself. {{storylink|Now and On Earth}}

Caminus and Cybertron opened their borders and enjoyed cultural, economic, and personal gain as a result. It was also noticed that a number of former Decepticons were emigrating to Caminus to escape the prejudice they suffered on Cybertron, even as Camiens moved to Cybertron. {{storylink|Now and On Earth}} [[Velocitron]], however, rejected membership in the Council (or even diplomatic relations) as it felt there was nothing to gain. Windblade schmoozed their diplomats and took a team through behind Starscream's back to ensure union. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}} A bit of cheating and showmanship convinced Velocitron to join the Council after all. {{storylink|Race Against the Light}}

While Windblade was doing all of this, Starscream went off with [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to explore the planet [[Devisiun]]. The inhabitants of Devisiun were quite impressed by Starscream's combiner and happily joined the Council, sending [[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] and [[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]] as their ambassadors. Tired of the back-and-forth power plays, Windblade confronted Starscream about his deception; the two agreed to travel to [[Eukaris]], the next colony world, together. The inhabitants of Eukaris proved supremely distrustful of vehicular Transformers from Cybertron, although Windblade's status as a Camien permitted her to argue her case to the assembled tribal leaders. After the two offworlders helped to put down the berserk Titan [[Chela]], Eukaris also agreed to join the Council, sending the outcasts [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Tigatron]] as delegates. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

[[File:TheWillOfTheFew-councilofworlds.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Let's hope it turns out better than that [[Galactic Republic|other council of worlds]]. ]]

The final colony which Metroplex located was [[Carcer]], a spaceborne Titan. Starscream and Windblade tried to parley favour with the Titan's captain, [[Elita One]]. Although Starscream's brash remarks quickly turned Elita hostile, Windblade persuaded them to join the Council to counter Starscream's political influence. Two weeks later, [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] joined the council, with the scene being broadcast on Cybertron's news service. {{storylink|The Will of the Few}}

As the council took shape, a Justice Committee was established for legal issues between two colonies. {{storylink|07:00:00}}

In a desperate attempt to force the Transformers' war off [[Earth]], Optimus (after hearing a lot about his Prime state from believers like [[Victorion]] and [[Aileron]]) decided to unilaterally declare Earth a member of the Council. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 4: Perihelion|Perihelion}}

This naturally upset Starscream, who held an emergency meeting with the other members of the Council. Windblade was willing to give Optimus the benefit of the doubt, although she agreed with Starscream's refusal to grant Optimus or Earth a seat on the Council, maintaining that the Council should only govern interactions between Transformer-populated planets. {{storylink|New Worlds Order}}

The Council convened to meet with Optimus and hear him out. Although Prime insisted that his intentions were pure, Starscream brought up the long history of other [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s who had abused their power and privilege, arguing that Optimus was just the latest in a long lineage of morally dubious Primes. Ultimately, the Council voted against allowing Earth a seat on the council. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}}

[[File:TAAO1 CouncilOfWorlds.jpg|thumb|right|400px|]]
The Council convened for a Justice Committee session in response to a series of [[Mnemosurgery|mnemosurgical]] attacks on Cybertronian Decepticons, including a part supplier for Carcer: this foreign connection was the thin end of the wedge that Obsidian used to claim it was council business and not internal Cybertronian. Despite Starscream's reluctance to cede any authority to investigate a crime on Cybertron, the Council moved to have [[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]] investigate the crime spree. {{storylink|07:00:00}} Airazor and Obsidian would grouse that this matter showed Cybertronian politics was a mess, but Obsidian noted they had no choice but to solve it. As further police violence sparked counter-violence across Iacon, the delegates thought little of Starscream's plans to stamp on it and instead gave the final pressure for Starscream to put Ironhide in control of the Cybertronian Security Forces, with a mandate to reform it and expand the membership outside of Starscream's control (not that he could complain about that!). {{storylink|Applicable Skills}}

When news footage came in of Optimus raising a ''bloody Titan'' on Earth, and the MIA [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] at that, an emergency meeting was held. Starscream endured it in anger, as the Titan seemed to prove Earth was a genuine colony planet and Optimus's ability to raise it apparently authenticated the divine rightness of his actions as a "true" Prime. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}

===''Combiner Wars'' cartoon===
The Council, consisting of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and the [[Mistress of Flame]], ruled over post-war [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and [[Caminus]]. Following a battle between [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] on Caminus, the Council debated using the [[Enigma of Combination]] to create their own [[combiner]] army. Rodimus favored using the Enigma while Starscream was more resistant to the idea. Before a decision could be made, a failed attempt to destroy the Enigma by [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] resulted in Starscream being injured and the police force being put on high alert. {{storylink|The Council}}

[[Category:IDW Generation 1]]
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Talk:Council of Worlds

2016-09-01T16:59:12Z

Stealthyboy: /* Chromia's membership? */

==Chromia's membership?==

Where exactly did Chromia being a member of the Council come from? Because as far as I can remember, she's never been listed as a member or appeared at any of their meetings. --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 17:36, 1 August 2016 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm pretty certain that Chromia is just Windblade's bodyguard, not a delegate. I'm going to remove her name from the list unless there are any counter-arguments. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 12:59, 1 September 2016 (EDT)

==Earth==
The way I read the events of [[All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights]], the Council (minus Starscream and likely Rattrap and Windblade) has accepted Earth into its ranks. Am I off-base here? I don't want to add anything else to this article if I'm totally misinterpreting things. Thanks. [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] ([[User talk:Magaroja|talk]]) 11:12, 1 September 2016 (EDT)

Mistress of Flame

2016-08-30T18:45:38Z

Stealthyboy: /* Combiner Wars cartoon */

:''The Mistress of Flame is a [[Caminus|Camien]] leader from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:MistressOfFlame.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Robo-Pope is dope.]]

The '''Mistress of Flame''' is the spiritual leader of [[Caminus]]. Her religion believes that [[Thirteen|the original Thirteen Transformers]] were gods, and that each inhabitant of Caminus possesses a piece of the spark of [[Solus Prime]]. The legendary [[Matrix of Leadership]] is believed to have been the hilt of the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], an artifact of [[Prima]], and the living life force of [[Primus]] himself. She and the [[Forgefire Parliament]] hold these stories to be true without question, and she rules the dying world of Caminus accordingly.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:TheSumAndItsParts-MistressofFlame.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|Tall bot is tall.]]
Immediately following the reintroduction of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to [[Caminus]] by way of a violent rampage by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and his defeat by [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] requested an audience with the Mistress of Flame. Presumably, the Cityspeaker explained that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]], keeper of the Matrix of Leadership, was visiting, and all that that implied, as subsequently she arrived to greet the former [[Autobot]] commander. Upstaging [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'s attempt at first contact with Caminus's ruling body, Optimus Prime displayed that he was a Matrix bearer as the Mistress of Flame and the others bowed before him. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}}

The wheels quickly came off when the sacred Prime showed up to a meeting with [[Circuit (G1)|reporters]], saying "the people" had a right to know what was going on. To the Mistress's appalled confusion, the Prime kept talking about [[democracy]] and the blasphemous idea of letting people choose instead of telling them what was best, as was his duty as the infallible divine font. He even went to risk ''his life'' on the surface! She was rebuked when she protested and was left angry. {{storylink|The Possible Light}}

After the [[Combiner Wars|messy first contact]] and the formation of the [[Council of Worlds]], the Mistress of Flame called Windblade to a meeting. The Cityspeaker warned her that Starscream still had control over all the [[combiner]]s and she was unsure why the Prime had asked her to accept [[Rattrap]] as Cybertron's council representative. In response, the Mistress advised her that a true servant of Solus Prime needs to keep going forward and working: "the forging is where impurities are removed ... and all that remains is the burning heart of truth itself." {{storylink|All That Remains}}

The Mistress of Flame believed she knew the true name of "the Arisen", one of the two anonymous members of the [[the Thirteen|Thirteen Prime]]s. One of her Torchbearer groups, under [[Pyra Magna]], considered this blasphemous and abandoned her for it. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}}

Optimus eventually asked the Mistress of Flame to tell her followers to ''stop'' worshipping him. Instead, she berated him for ignoring his legacy as a Prime and the legends of a [[Pax Cybertronia]], that the ascension of Cybertron didn't have to mean tyranny. She pushed him into snarling that he defended Earth because ''all'' sentient beings defend freedom and then confronted him with how this was the word of Primus; his role was to bring freedom to all and he could surely bring more of it to Earth, provide it resources and topple its tyrants. To her, it seemed that Optimus had seen so much corruption and war that he could not believe "anyone would act ''altruistically''. Optimus mulled this over and casually tried to see if Windblade could vouch for the Mistress as trustworthy.{{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}}

Her words led him down the path to annexing Earth as an Autobot protectorate. He was haunted by a vision of [[Aileron]] as a new Mistrss of Flame {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}} and nightmares in which the incumbent decried him for sacrificing others for his ambition, and he decided to open up communications to the Mistress of Flame, Starscream, and Soundwave to discuss what to do. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|Edge of the Earth}}
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}}}}
{{--}}

===''Combiner Wars'' cartoon===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Starscream}} {{storylink|Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Windblade}} {{storylink|The Council}} {{storylink|Homecoming (Combiner Wars)|Homecoming}}}}

==Notes==
*The Mistress of Flame isn't the first person to have [[Matrix Flame priest|a fire-themed religious connection to the Matrix of Leadership]].

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[[Category:Clerics]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
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[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]

Homecoming (disambiguation)

2016-08-30T18:39:12Z

Stealthyboy:

"'''Homecoming'''" is the title of several works in ''Transformers''.

{{disamb|y=2004|"[[Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming]]", the third issue of ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Transformers: Universe]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=2006|"[[Homecoming (episode)|Homecoming]]", the 48th episode of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=2013|"[[Homecoming (IDW)|Homecoming]]", the 19th issue of ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=2016|"[[Homecoming (Combiner Wars)|Homecoming]]", the 5th episode of [[Machinima|Machinima's]] ''[[Transformers:_Combiner_Wars_(cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''.}}

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2016-08-30T18:35:54Z

Stealthyboy:

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''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Transformers]]'' #55: "[[All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights]]"<br />
''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|MtMtE]]'' #56: "[[Ten to Midnight]]"<br />
''[[The Transformers: Till All Are One|Till All Are One]]'' #3: "[[Things We Said We'd Never Do]]" <br />
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"[[Foundation and Wreckage Part 1: Deadly Aim|Deadly Aim]]"<br />
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Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)

2016-08-30T18:33:20Z

Stealthyboy: /* Main episodes */

{{Nav-CombinerWars}}
[[File:CW-WebSeriesPoster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|As part of [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] attempt to create an "adult" Transformers series, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus']] crotch was accordingly protracted.]]
'''Transformers: Combiner Wars''' is an animated web series. Co-produced by [[Machinima]] and [[Hasbro Studios]] with animation done by [[Tatsunoko Production]], it is targeted at older audiences, and ties into the concurrent ''Combiner Wars'' imprint. <ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-transformers-animated-series-807464]</ref> The series is run by [[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]].<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/09/21/transformers-combiner-wars-animated-digital-series-creators-revealed-301653]</ref>

As of January 31st, 2016, the scripts for the first seven episodes were finalized, according to Machinima.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/machinima-transformers-combiner-wars-final-script-complete/34656/]</ref> On June 23, screenshots from the series were released<ref>[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/transformers-combiner-wars-show-photos?iid=sr-link6]</ref>, and a prelude trailer was released on June 28.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformers/videos/1072571896146337/]</ref> The series debuted August 2 on the [[go90]] platform in the US, and on Machinima's YouTube channel elsewhere.

==Overview==
Forty years after the conclusion of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Earth]], the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s are no more and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are relics of the past. [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is at last at peace, ruled by the triumvirate of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and the [[Mistress of Flame]]. However, the [[Enigma of Combination]], an ancient [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] of [[Primus]], has triggered new conflict through the creation of huge, dangerous [[Combiner]]s, and now Cybertron's fragile peace is in danger of collapse.

==Cast==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Jon Bailey]])
*[[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] ([[Ben Pronsky]])

'''Combiners'''
*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]] ([[Ricky Hayberg]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Jason Marnocha]])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Frank Todaro]])
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]]

'''Combiners'''
*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] ([[Charlie Guzman]])
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] ([[Patrick Seitz]])

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] ([[Abby Trott]])
*[[Victorion]] ([[Anna Akana]])
*[[Mistress of Flame]] ([[Lana McKissack]])
*[[Maxima]] ([[Amy Johnston]])
}}

==Episodes==
===Preludes===
{{collist|2|
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Victorion|Victorion]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Starscream|Starscream]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Windblade|Windblade]]
}}
===Main episodes===
{{collist|2|
# [[The Fall]]
# [[The Council]]
# [[The Duel]]
# [[Unforgotten]]
# [[Homecoming (Combiner Wars)|Homecoming]]
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Combiner Wars (cartoon)}}
[[Category:Combiner Wars| ]]
[[Category:Media]]

Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)

2016-08-30T18:31:54Z

Stealthyboy: /* Main episodes */

{{Nav-CombinerWars}}
[[File:CW-WebSeriesPoster.jpg|thumb|right|250px|As part of [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] attempt to create an "adult" Transformers series, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus']] crotch was accordingly protracted.]]
'''Transformers: Combiner Wars''' is an animated web series. Co-produced by [[Machinima]] and [[Hasbro Studios]] with animation done by [[Tatsunoko Production]], it is targeted at older audiences, and ties into the concurrent ''Combiner Wars'' imprint. <ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-transformers-animated-series-807464]</ref> The series is run by [[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]].<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/09/21/transformers-combiner-wars-animated-digital-series-creators-revealed-301653]</ref>

As of January 31st, 2016, the scripts for the first seven episodes were finalized, according to Machinima.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/machinima-transformers-combiner-wars-final-script-complete/34656/]</ref> On June 23, screenshots from the series were released<ref>[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/transformers-combiner-wars-show-photos?iid=sr-link6]</ref>, and a prelude trailer was released on June 28.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformers/videos/1072571896146337/]</ref> The series debuted August 2 on the [[go90]] platform in the US, and on Machinima's YouTube channel elsewhere.

==Overview==
Forty years after the conclusion of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Earth]], the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s are no more and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are relics of the past. [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is at last at peace, ruled by the triumvirate of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and the [[Mistress of Flame]]. However, the [[Enigma of Combination]], an ancient [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] of [[Primus]], has triggered new conflict through the creation of huge, dangerous [[Combiner]]s, and now Cybertron's fragile peace is in danger of collapse.

==Cast==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Jon Bailey]])
*[[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] ([[Ben Pronsky]])

'''Combiners'''
*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]] ([[Ricky Hayberg]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Jason Marnocha]])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Frank Todaro]])
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]]

'''Combiners'''
*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] ([[Charlie Guzman]])
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] ([[Patrick Seitz]])

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] ([[Abby Trott]])
*[[Victorion]] ([[Anna Akana]])
*[[Mistress of Flame]] ([[Lana McKissack]])
*[[Maxima]] ([[Amy Johnston]])
}}

==Episodes==
===Preludes===
{{collist|2|
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Victorion|Victorion]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Starscream|Starscream]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Windblade|Windblade]]
}}
===Main episodes===
{{collist|2|
# [[The Fall]]
# [[The Council]]
# [[The Duel]]
# [[Unforgotten]]
# [[Homecoming]]
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Combiner Wars (cartoon)}}
[[Category:Combiner Wars| ]]
[[Category:Media]]

Unforgotten

2016-08-26T19:28:23Z

Stealthyboy: /* Quotes */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''
|prev=The Duel
|next=
|image= Unforgotten Windblade Optimus Prime Megatron.jpg
|caption=Are we happy about working together? No. Are we going to do a Power Walk anyway? Hell yeah.
|title="Unforgotten"
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]], [[Machinima]]
|written by=[[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]]
|executive producer=
|airdate=[[August 23]], 2016
|animation studio=[[Tatsunoko Production]]}}

'''Optimus catches up with an old acquaintance.'''

==Synopsis==
In the ruins of an ancient gladiatorial arena, an exiled [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] does battle with the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. Easily overpowering and defeating them, Megatron questions if there is anyone who can challenge him.

Cue [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], whom Megatron seems relatively pleased to see, and [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]. Megatron questions if Optimus has come to finally end their battle, though Optimus insists he isn't here to fight. Regardless, Megatron attacks, forcing Optimus to fight back.

As the two grapple, Optimus insists Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron doesn't seem to care. Megatron instead suggests Optimus can't live without a war, reminding him how he didn't pull the trigger years ago, before hitting him with a sucker punch. Windblade steps in, but not before an enraged Optimus lunges at Megatron.

Optimus and Windblade again try to insist that Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron refuses to listen and attempts to walk away, causing Windblade to hit him with a surprise attack. Pleased with Windblade's tactics and attitude, Megatron listens to what they have to say. Upon being informed that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the Council have the Enigma of Combination, Megatron joins them, stating that he hates Starscream far more than he hates Optimus.

The three leave, heading to destroy the Enigma, once and for all...
==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (5)

|c2=
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (1)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (2)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (3)
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (4)

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (6)
}}

==Quotes==
"Hm? Ah, the speaker who became a killer, big fan of your work. Do keep it up."<br />
"Arrogant relic! You have no idea who you're talking to. I've-"<br />
"I meant keep up with the killing, not the speaking. It doesn't suit you."
:—'''Megatron''' shuts '''Windblade''' down.

"Brings back memories, eh Prime? The two of us fighting as the galaxy watches on!"<br />
"Cybertron is in danger. The peace treaty has fallen apart."<br />
"The treaty was a false hope, we both knew that. Cybertron can burn. They can ''all'' burn!"<br />
"I know you do not mean that."<br />
"Don't I?"
:-'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus''' exchange words as they grapple

"What was that you always used to say, Prime? Oh, that's right. '''Transform and roll out!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' steals a catchphrase.

==Notes==
* The Constructicons, or at the very least Long Haul as he is the only one we see in robot mode, are based on their [[Constructicon_(G1)#Generations|Combiner Wars]] toys.
* The Constructicons inexplicably communicate through a series of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]-esque bleeps and bloops (presumably as a means to save money on voice actors).
* Footage from [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime's "Prelude"]] video is used for Megatron's flashback scene.

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_5c5908e732944a2ba306b4fa92e878d7 "Unforgotten" on go90] (US-only)
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wj2FAbYaYs "Unforgotten" on YouTube] (non-US only)

[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

Unforgotten

2016-08-26T19:27:08Z

Stealthyboy: /* External links */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''
|prev=The Duel
|next=
|image= Unforgotten Windblade Optimus Prime Megatron.jpg
|caption=Are we happy about working together? No. Are we going to do a Power Walk anyway? Hell yeah.
|title="Unforgotten"
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]], [[Machinima]]
|written by=[[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]]
|executive producer=
|airdate=[[August 23]], 2016
|animation studio=[[Tatsunoko Production]]}}

'''Optimus catches up with an old acquaintance.'''

==Synopsis==
In the ruins of an ancient gladiatorial arena, an exiled [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] does battle with the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. Easily overpowering and defeating them, Megatron questions if there is anyone who can challenge him.

Cue [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], whom Megatron seems relatively pleased to see, and [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]. Megatron questions if Optimus has come to finally end their battle, though Optimus insists he isn't here to fight. Regardless, Megatron attacks, forcing Optimus to fight back.

As the two grapple, Optimus insists Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron doesn't seem to care. Megatron instead suggests Optimus can't live without a war, reminding him how he didn't pull the trigger years ago, before hitting him with a sucker punch. Windblade steps in, but not before an enraged Optimus lunges at Megatron.

Optimus and Windblade again try to insist that Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron refuses to listen and attempts to walk away, causing Windblade to hit him with a surprise attack. Pleased with Windblade's tactics and attitude, Megatron listens to what they have to say. Upon being informed that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the Council have the Enigma of Combination, Megatron joins them, stating that he hates Starscream far more than he hates Optimus.

The three leave, heading to destroy the Enigma, once and for all...
==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (5)

|c2=
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (1)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (2)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (3)
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (4)

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (6)
}}

==Quotes==
"Hm? Ah, the speaker who became a killer, big fan of your work. Do keep it up"<br />
"Arrogant relic! You have no idea who your talking to. I've-"<br />
"I meant keep up with the killing, not the speaking. It doesn't suit you."
:—'''Megatron''' shuts '''Windblade''' down.

"Brings back memories, eh Prime? The two of us fighting as the galaxy watches on!"<br />
"Cybertron is in danger. The peace treaty has fallen apart."<br />
"The treaty was a false hope, we both knew that. Cybertron can burn. They can ''all'' burn!"<br />
"I know you do not mean that."<br />
"Don't I?"
:-'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus''' exchange words as they grapple

"What was that you always used to say, Prime? Oh, that's right. '''Transform and roll out!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' steals a catchphrase.

==Notes==
* The Constructicons, or at the very least Long Haul as he is the only one we see in robot mode, are based on their [[Constructicon_(G1)#Generations|Combiner Wars]] toys.
* The Constructicons inexplicably communicate through a series of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]-esque bleeps and bloops (presumably as a means to save money on voice actors).
* Footage from [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime's "Prelude"]] video is used for Megatron's flashback scene.

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_5c5908e732944a2ba306b4fa92e878d7 "Unforgotten" on go90] (US-only)
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wj2FAbYaYs "Unforgotten" on YouTube] (non-US only)

[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

Optimus Prime (G1)

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:''Optimus Prime is the [[Autobot]] leader from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Optimusg1.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|I'm that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the ''other'' guy.]]
'''Optimus Prime''' is the awe-inspiring [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]] forces. Selfless and endlessly courageous, he is the complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] to command, the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the [[Transformer]]s' conflict to Earth. Every casualty, [[human]] or [[Transformer|Cybertronian]], weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]].

On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime's prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and his [[ion blaster]] and his [[energon-axe]] are deadly weapons. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|does so on a regular basis]]. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness, and one the Decepticons have taken advantage of time and again... though it's also the source of his strength!

Prime carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

Before being rebuilt into a [[Powermaster]], his [[robot mode]] split into three components:

*A sentient robot module, the [[Brain Center]].
*A wheeled drone module known as [[Roller (G1)|Roller]].
*A [[Combat Deck (G1)|Combat Deck]].

Although Optimus Prime can function as three independent modules, injury to any one module is felt by the other two. He's sometimes [[binary bonding|binary-bonded]] to [[Hi-Q]], a process that combines Hi-Q's intellect with Optimus's own wisdom. Other times he is partnered with the [[Titan Master]] [[Diac]]. In some universes, he can [[combiner|combine]] with his fellow Autobots to form [[Ultra Prime]] or [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]].

He is often previously known as '''Orion Pax''' or less often '''Optronix'''. Sometimes he changes his name to '''[[Convobat]]''' or he adopts the moniker the '''Authority'''.

{{bigquote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime's most common [[bio]] quote}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity}}
[[File:CommandPerformances-Autobotsattack.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't worry, the multiple crises of conscience come soon enough.]]

Optimus Prime was a gladiator champion for [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] before quickly working his way up the Autobot ranks once [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] started the war. Four million years ago, when Decepticons attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], he personally chose to crash it onto [[Earth]], a decision that caused him much remorse when the war restarted on Earth in the modern day.

Though Optimus allowed himself to be destroyed when he betrayed his own moral code while playing a video game, a copy of his mind survived on a [[floppy disk]]. Years later, he was restored as a [[Powermaster]], binary bonded to the [[Nebulan]], [[Hi-Q]]. Optimus Prime slowly earned the respect of Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], mourned the loss of his friend [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], and ultimately sacrificed everything to defeat [[Unicron]]. Though Optimus died again, his mind persisted in Hi-Q, and the [[Last Autobot]] was able to restore him as an [[Action Master]] in time to bring a temporary end to the war.

In [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|one universe]], Optimus Prime went on to battle [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], his [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian troops]], and the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]]. In [[Transformers: Classics|another]], fifteen years of peace passed before Megatron rose again.
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===S.T.A.R.S. pack-in flyers===
[[File:PackIn RodimusPrimeRemembers Inside2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|The fury of the "Road Warriors"... and Cosmos.]]
The Autobots were outnumbered and outgunned on Earth from the start, though Optimus was confident (and correct) that reinforcements from Cybertron would arrive. {{storylink|Reinforcements from Cybertron!}}

However, the situation was still so desperate that Optimus not only decided to recruit human allies {{storylink|The battle is far from over!}}, but aggressively tried to recruit and ''deputise'' human children, including giving them the power to co-ordinate Autobot teams in battles. He wouldn't even make a final move on the Decepticons until he had enough child soldiers on his side. {{storylink|Earthlings: THE S.T.A.R.S. need your help now!}} {{storylink|Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?}} In at least one case, this likely led to the ''death'' of a small boy at Decepticon hands. {{storylink|Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?}}

Optimus later led a convoy in search for a building site for [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], which ran into a Decepticon ambush. {{storylink|Rodimus Prime remembers the Transformers greatest battle on Earth.}} He sent off several Autobots to get help, knowing this was the only chance of victory. {{storylink|Transformers Combat Data}} Those several Autobots were seen again, but Prime... wasn't.
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}
[[File:Mtmte2 shermandam.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|He had this ax once. It was very memorable.]]
Before the war, Optimus Prime was originally '''Orion Pax''', a young dock worker with a girlfriend named [[Elita One|Ariel]]. But as the war began, Megatron destroyed them both, and [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] rebuilt them into more powerful warriors.

Four million years ago, Optimus Prime ended a Decepticon attack on the Ark by directing it towards prehistoric Earth. When both factions reawakened in [[1984]], Optimus Prime and the Autobots fought the Decepticons on numerous occasions until [[2005]]. During an attack on [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] on Earth, Prime fell in battle against Megatron and passed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]].

Optimus Prime eventually returned, once as a [[zombie]], and again when he was rebuilt by the [[Quintesson]]s to stop the spread of the [[Hate Plague]].

The details between these events differ between universes. Sometimes Optimus Prime merged with [[Vector Sigma]] soon after defeating the Hate Plague, and returned much, much later as Star Convoy. Sometimes Optimus Prime partnered up with [[Marissa Faireborn]] to receive upgrades through mutual [[kiss]]ing. Sometimes... look, he did a lot of weird stuff, okay? He later sacrifices himself to restore the [[Matrix of Leadership]].
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===Sticker Adventures books===
During a Decepticon attack, Cliffjumper pleaded with Optimus to let him jump into the fray. Optimus denied his request, telling him that they already had the Decepticons on the run. In the battle’s aftermath, the Decepticon’s activity seem to vanish altogether. Grateful for the quiet, Optimus decided to head out and fetch extra fuel for the Autobots with Sparkplug. He returned just in time to find his Autobots in the middle of a battle with the Decepticons. With Sparkplug and Prowl’s help, Optimus refuelled his troops, and once more drove the Decepticons back. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons}}

Optimus Prime and the Autobots were repairing a ship in the hopes of using it to return to Cybertron, when the Decepticons attacked. He took a hit in the midst of the battle, and fell unconscious…

Then he dreamed of awakening, only to find his troops smashed. Realizing his only hope for survival lay with Cybertron, Optimus then boarded the ship the Autobots were repairing, and travelled back to his home planet. Arriving on Cybertron, he found it completely under Decepticon domination. Optimus then met an old Autobot codger who pleaded that he return to Earth to gather a force that could overthrow the Decepticon’s regime. Optimus remorsefully told the old Autobot that there could be no reinforcements from the planet Earth. The two Autobots were then swarmed by Decepticon police officers, who Optimus fought until his dying breath…

Only for Optimus to awaken for real, back on Earth and surrounded by his troops. Realizing that his trip to Cybertron was a dream, Optimus instructed his Autobots to redouble their efforts in fixing up their ship, certain that they would soon need to return to Cybertron. {{storylink|Return to Cybertron}}
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===Marvel Storybooks continuity===
When Optimus captained an Autobots spacecraft with the intent of clearing an asteroid field heade for Cybertron, he found his ship and crew attacked by the Decepticons. Rather than allow his Autobots to be taken prisoner, he deliberately crashed the Ark on Earth into a volcano.

Millions of years later, Optimus was one of the thirty-five Autobots rebuilt into modern machines by the ship"s computer. Some time later, Jazz reported that he had spotted Decepticon activity at a nearby construction site. Optimus decided to take a proactive angle to their war with the Decepticons, and led the entirety of his troops to the Decepticon base. Once there, they found themselves allowed in by Megatron, feigning a friendly demeanor. Not fooled by Megatron's claims that he was making an honest living heading a construction company, Optimus engaged the evil robots in combat, before being blasted out of the Decepticon base. Optimus and his troops were sent tumbling down the cliffside beneath their feet. The Autobots suffered only minor damage from the fall, and after getting patched up, moved out once more to stop Megatron's plan, now well under way. Megatron was holding millions of humans hostage in a bid to get the Earth to surrender unconditionally to the Decepticons.

The two sides found themselves equally matched until the Constructicons merged into The Devastator. The tables were turned once more when the Dinobots appeared, and mercilessly slaughtered the Constructicons. The Decepticons' plan foiled, Optimus decided that the Autobot-Decepticon war had come to an end, despite Megatron's protests to the contrary. He and his Autobots then drove away victorious. {{storylink|Battle for Earth}}

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Optimus pondered [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s whereabouts after noticing that he had been absent from Autobot headquarters for longer than expected. The answer came through [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], who relayed a message from [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]; Sunstreaker was the Decepticons' captive. Megatron demanded that the Autobots surrender, or else Sunstreaker would be destroyed and rebuilt as a Decepticon! The Autobots refused to give up without a fight, but Optimus took care to explain the threat they were up against before a rescue party headed out. Optimus told [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] and [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s combiner nature, and warned them not take the danger he posed lightly. The rescue squad failed in liberating Sunstreaker, and were captured themselves. The Autobots were shaken by this turn of events, but Optimus was able to think up a new plan to trick the Decepticons. He ordered his Autobots to build a hollow statue of Devastator for him and his soldiers to hide within. Optimus then wrote a letter explaining that the statue was a peace offering for the Decepticons, and the completed decoy was placed before the Decepticons' base. The ruse worked, and Optimus and his troops burst forth from the false Devastator after the Decepticons had let down their guard. An all-out brawl between Autobots and Decepticons followed. The fight came to an end when Megatron attempted to down Optimus with his fusion cannon, only for Optimus to deflect Megatron's beam back at him by bouncing it off a reflective piece of metal. With the Decepticons defeated, Optimus ordered his troops to retrieve their wounded and return to Autobot headquarters. {{storylink|The Autobots' Secret Weapon}}
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===Marvel coloring books===
[[File:SummertimeColoring Optimus Prime combat deck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|In lieu of solving the [[FIRRIB]] debate the hard way, Prime eliminates the problem at the source.]]
Alerted by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s latest plan, Optimus Prime led the mission on [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s ship to foil them. He sent Bumblebee on an underwater scouting mission, and took part in a pitched battle that ended in the Decepticon's being defeated. {{storylink|Search for Treasure Under the Sea}} When [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] dropped rocks on the Autobots, Optimus used [[Roller (G1)|Roller]] to eliminate most of them. Unfortunately he was forced to surrender when he saw the other Autobots had been captured by the Decepticons, and was placed in a [[special Autobot prison]]. Luckily Bumblebee remained free, and after he'd rescued the others, Optimus wrapped Megatron up with an iron bar. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue!}}

One peaceful day, Optimus decided it was ''too'' quiet, and sent Bumblebee and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] to find out what the Decepticons were up to. Sure enough, the Decepticons were looking for a factory, so Optimus had Mirage create a holographic factory as a trick, and ambushed the Decepticons. Optimus himself hurled Megatron into orbit. {{storylink|Decepticon Patrol}} Optimus and his Autobots rescued [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] when the pair were captured by Decepticons, and afterwards Prime was amazed when Sparkplug repaired [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. After Bumblebee and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] discovered that the Decepticons were attacking [[Hoover Dam]], Optimus and his team defeated them. {{storylink|The Deadly Fuel Shortage}}

[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] reported to Optimus that the Decepticons were stealing gas, and Optimus was able to use Roller to find out the Decepticons were using a [[molecular transfer device]]. The Autobots assaulted the Decepticon stronghold so they could take care of the device. {{storylink|Summertime Coloring Book}} After a rain storm, Optimus and most of the other Autobots went out on patrol. When the Decepticons used a fake message to lure Bumblebee out of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] so they could take it over, Optimus used the same gambit to retake the ship. {{storylink|A Message From Outer Space}}

[[File:Forestrescuemission-bunny.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Carrots are the right of all fluffy beings!]]
When the Decepticons turned up in the same forest that the Autobots were taking a vacation in, Optimus took great pleasure in stopping them and returning the forest to pristine condition. {{storylink|Forest Rescue Mission}} Optimus was undertaking some repairs when Bumblebee offered to help, but Prime told him the repairs were too hard for him. When later the other Autobots were dismissive of Bumblebee's report of a Decepticon attack, Optimus alone listened to him, and they subsequently defeated the Decepticons. {{storylink|Bumblebee's Dangerous Mission}}

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[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] warned Optimus about a fuel plant the Decepticons were building, so Optimus took the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] in his trailer and, under the guise of having a delivery for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], invaded the construction site and defeated the Decepticons. After this victory, Optimus turned his gaze skywards, and thanked Cosmos for his contribution to the Autobot cause. {{storylink|The Autobot Spy in the Sky}}

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===Deadly Paradise===
[[File:DeadlyParadise-Optimus and Troops.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|right]]
When Sideswipe was accused and convicted of destroying the [[Nova Suspension Bridge]], Optimus was infuriated that one of his own Autobots could commit such a heinous act. Optimus was tasked to hunt down and deactivate Sideswipe, though the task proved to be easy as Sideswipe did not run, hide or resist. After Optimus had deactivated Sideswipe, he was approached by Prowl, who pointed out that Sideswipe's actions made little sense, as he had committed the crime in broad daylight before many witnesses. Agreeing that the Decepticons might be behind the situation, Optimus allowed Prowl to take a team of Autobots to [[Carob Island]] to clear Sideswipe's name while Optimus and Jazz stayed behind to continue working on human/Autobot relations. Prowl returned with evidence that it was indeed a Decepticon-controlled clone of Sideswipe that had committed the crime. Optimus then presumably reactivated Sideswipe when his name was cleared. {{storylink|Deadly Paradise}}

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===
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Optimus and Prowl received message from [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] of a coal transport in [[Africa]], and discovered Megatron was using human slaves. Megatron detonated his coal mines with the world's largest explosion, killing the humans and forging the world's largest diamond — that he would use to as a lens for a [[Crystal satellite|satellite]] to focus the Sun's beams, melting the [[Rocky Mountains]]! Prime ordered Skyfire to attack the satellite, and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to build a square mile panel of metal to deflect the beam, blowing the satellite up. {{storylink|Satellite of Doom}} The Decepticons attempted to drain the [[Prudhoe Bay oil reservoir]], causing volcanic eruptions and Russia to approach America, accelerating tensions between the countries. Optimus ordered [[razon gas]] to be pumped into the reservoir, returning the [[oil]] below and raising the Decepticons' aquatic drill. {{storylink|When Continents Collide}}

Accompanied by Prowl, Optimus went to [[Sumatra]] and discovered much of the jungle had been destroyed. The Decepticons tried to destroy the [[Brazil]]ian jungle and take its oil, but once again the Autobots stopped them. {{storylink|Storms of Destruction}} Following a battle between the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s and the Decepticons, Optimus ordered [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] be repaired by Ratchet at their [[Antarctica|Antarctic]] oil supply. Tracking Slag, Megatron attempted to destroy the base with the [[Crusher (G1)|Crusher]], slicing icebergs off the continent. Optimus ordered [[Autobot superjet]]s to counterattack, but the battle was won when Megatron unwittingly reawakened hundreds of dormant Dinobots beneath the ice. {{storylink|Jaws of Terror}} Optimus and Prowl were baffled by Megatron's next strategy, a series of hit-and-run attacks in the Pacific rim. It emerged it was a distraction from the enslavement of the population of [[Buru]]. Optimus, Prowl and the Dinobots arrived and fought off the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], foiling the scheme to drain the island's oil. {{storylink|Slaves of the Insecticons}} When Megatron planned to drain the world's largest [[oil tanker|supertanker]], Optimus had the oil tainted with a corrosive acid, sabotaging the Decepticon submersible. The Autobots flew the tanker to [[New York City]], and ordered the few witnesses' memory to be wiped. Wow. {{storylink|Attack of the Decepticons}}

===Big Looker Story Books===
[[File:KidsPrime1.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn all gosh-darn night.]]
After a thousand years of war on Cybertron, the planet was shaken from its orbit and risked being smashed to pieces by an asteroid field. Optimus decided to take a group of Autobots in the Ark and destroy the asteroids, but they were attacked by the Decepticons, and Optimus crashed the ship on Earth. Four million years later, the Ark repaired them, and they encountered [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. Sparkplug suggested to Prime that the Autobots tap the volcano they'd crashed into for power. The two humans also warned the Autobots of an impending Decepticon attack, and Optimus laid a trap. Unfortunately the Decepticon forces attacked from all directions, and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s [[null-ray]] put Optimus out of commission. Luckily Sparkplug easily fixed him, and his fast recovery inspired the Autobots to chase the Decepticons off. Optimus vowed to protect this new world. {{storylink|Battle for Cybertron}}

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When a two-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize, both the Decepticons and the Autobots badly wanted to win it. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a [[big black car|hollowed-out car]] and harassed [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] all throughout the contest. When Prime discovered the car was being driven by his arch foe, he swiftly pulled a telephone pole out from the ground and used it to bash the mortal hell out of the cheating Decepticon. Thanks to Prime's violent intervention, Cliffjumper was able to win the race. Afterward, Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot's victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death. {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}

The morning after a particularly vicious battle, Optimus listened to birdsong and pondered life as a giant robot, before asking [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] for a damage report. The Autobots were puzzled when the Decepticon [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s (and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]) did a flyby on their camp, as the Decepticons were similarly damaged after the battle, but [[Shooting Star]] reported that the Decepticons were trying to distract them while an attempt was made to secure a broken-down oil truck a few miles away. Optimus took a small group to investigate, and successfully aided the [[Abe Walters|humans]] in getting their truck moving. [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] was instrumental in stopping the Decepticon attack, and Optimus commended the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] for his valor. {{storylink|Decepticon Hijack}}

On another beautiful day, Optimus sat under a tree with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], discussing the Decepticons. A while later, [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] reported that [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] had shot at him. Optimus smelled a Decepticon plot and led an assault on their headquarters, only to find that Grapple had been injected with a [[cerebro-shell]], placing him in Decepticon control. Battle commenced, during which Grapple was freed and helped them defeat the Decepticon. Afterward Optimus said it all had been worth it to get Grapple back. {{storylink|Insecticon Attack!}}

===Ladybird Books continuity===
{{voiceactor|[[Blain Fairman]] (English)}}
[[File:Ladybird prime transforms.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|The ghost of Optimus Prime possesses...himself?]]
Upon witnessing the incredible power of a lightning storm for the first time, Optimus Prime had Sparkplug Witwicky explain the phenomenon to him. Intrigued by the potential of lightning, Prime put [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] to work finding a way to harness its energy, so they could use it to aid in the rebuilding of their spaceship. Huffer constructed a giant lightning rod, and Optimus Prime and the Autobots gathered to watch its first test. They were shocked, however, when a fleet of battered, damaged Decepticons flew out of the mountain housing the antenna and off into the night. The evil robots had attempted to discover the device's secrets and been seriously electrocuted! Once the lightning rod had been checked, Prime vowed to make the lightning-harnessing technology the Autobots' gift to Earth once they had left the planet. {{storylink|Autobots' Lightning Strike}}

When the Decepticons tried to take control of a solar energy station, Prime sent Roller in to investigate. {{storylink|Megatron's Fight for Power}} Later, Prime sent [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to spy on the Decepticons' latest misdeeds, and the Autobots discovered that they were having trouble with the ion drive of their starship. Prime led the Autobots in an attack on the mine the Decepticons were using to test their propulsion system and routed Megatron's force. {{storylink|Autobots Fight Back}}

Optimus Prime grew concerned when [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] picked up a communication from [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] that indicated the Decepticons had grown interested in a mysterious structure near a human village. Prime and a team of Autobots headed out to investigate, and they battled the Decepticons over the structure, which turned out to be a harmless windmill. {{storylink|Laserbeak's Fury}}

[[File:Ladybird powermaster prime.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Invisible keyboard solo!]]
At some point, Optimus Prime disappeared under mysterious circumstances, and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived from Cybertron to take his place as Autobot commander. {{storylink|Galvatron's Air Attack}} Prime eventually returned many centuries later, now sporting a [[Powermaster]] body, and rejoined the Transformers' war after it had moved from Earth to the alien planet of [[Nebulos]].

When [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] was captured by the Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], Optimus Prime agreed to surrender himself to ensure his fellow Autobot's safety. Naturally, though, Prime did not expect Scorponok to hold up his end of the bargain, and he had [[Hosehead (G1)|Hosehead]] and [[Fizzle]] rescue Highbrow while he allowed himself to be imprisoned. Their mission successful, Hosehead and Fizzle then sprang Prime from his cell, and the team beat a hasty retreat. {{storylink|Autobot Hostage}}

After weeks of Decepticon silence, Optimus Prime decided to get proactive and sent out patrols all over the planet to try and flush the villains out. None of the patrols reported back with any success, however, and Prime realized that there was one area of the planet that his troops had deliberately ignored: the mysterious "[[Nebulos Triangle]]". [[Quickswitch]], [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] and [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] were sent into the Triangle, and they did indeed discover and foil the Decepticon plot going on in the area. {{storylink|Decepticons Underground}}
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===Listen 'n Fun audiobooks continuity===
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Optimus had [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and Huffer plant false information to mislead the Decepticons. As the Autobots were in need of a new power source, he sent [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] to find Doctor [[Heath Blaisedale]] and had to apologize to the doctor after Cliffjumper kidnapped her. Persuading her to help them, the Autobots traveled to the solar plant to make use of her solar reactor, only to find the Decepticons were already planning to attack it. While the other Autobots re-energized, Optimus protected them from an attack by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] abducted Blaisedale as a diversion, forcing Optimus to lead a team and rescue her. When the team returned, the plant was already under attack and Optimus helped the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] drive them off. Unfortunately the Dinobots totaled the plant in the process, and Optimus promised Blaisedale the Autobots would help her rebuild. In return, Blaisedale organized a meeting with the [[President of the United States]] so the Autobots could forge an alliance. {{storylink|Sun Raid (Listen 'n Fun)}}

===Listen 'n Play audiobooks continuity===
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When [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] brought [[Steve Guymo]] to the Autobot base, Optimus and the other Autobots realized that the Decepticons were behind the abduction of humans from airports across the nation. They were able to find the captive humans, whom the Decepticons were intending to ransom to the US government, and free them before engaging Starscream and his squad in battle. With the Decepticons defeated, the Autobots returned to base where Optimus thanked Steve for his help. {{storylink|Sun Raid (Listen 'n Play)}}

===The Special Teams===
After crashing on Earth in the Ark and remaining dormant for millions of years, Optimus, along with Sideswipe and Ratchet, were the first Autobots to awaken after the Decepticons’ own resurrection. These three helped the other Autobots repair themselves with the aid of the Ark’s computer.

Some time later, as the war raged between Autobots and Decepticons on Earth, Optimus had requested the Aerialbots as reinforcements from Cybertron. Though they nearly defected to the Decepticons, Optimus was able to secure the Aerialbots as allies. Later, when a power plant had to be evacuated of its human workers due to the fear of landslides, Optimus posted Denfensor at the location to secure its protection. Optimus then drove off to check up on the rest of his troops who were aiding in the area’s evacuation. Though he passed a military convoy heading towards a plant, he thought nothing of it, unaware that they were the newly created Combaticons in disguise. Optimus then reached the Ark, and from there opened communications with the Aerialbots. Optimus had someone come into the know that the Decepticons were moving in towards the plant. He watched from afar as Defensor and Superion fought Menasor and Bruticus, wary to send more Autobots into the fray while these titans wreaked havoc onto the battlefield. Optimus allowed himself a smile when the Aerialbots and the Protectobots proved themselves superior teams to the Decepticons’, though at the back of his mind, he was wary. After all, Megatron himself had chosen not to add his considerably weight to the battle... {{storylink|The Special Teams}}
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===The Battle for Planet Earth===
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In search of new energy sources, Optimus led a team to central [[South America]]. When they spotted [[Mount Sheelah]], their two human friends [[John Gordon|John]] and [[Tim Gordon]] explained volcanoes, and, believing it to be of possible use, the Autobots went to examine it. During a battle with the Decepticons over the volcano, Optimus was convinced by the two humans to retreat, ultimately saving them when Mount Sheelah erupted. {{storylink|Terror of Mount Sheelah}} After discovering that the Decepticons were kidnapping humans, Optimus sent [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to scout the Decepticon base. When Bumblebee returned with the Decepticons' [[global crystal]], Optimus was able to use it to blackmail the Decepticons into letting the humans go. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (G1)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}}

Using their network of human allies, the Autobots tracked the Decepticons to [[Stanley Lake]]. When Optimus learned that the Decepticons had taken over the hydro-plant, he lured them out into the valley in front of the dam so that [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and the humans could flood the valley, washing the Decepticons away. {{storylink|Menace at the Dam}} [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] attempted to defect as part of a ploy to get a spy into the Autobots' midst, but Optimus wasn't fooled at all. He and his men concocted a false plan which they shared with Starscream, and while the Decepticons were subsequently on [[Deuterium Orbital Laser Tracing System|a wild goose chase]], Optimus's team smashed the Decepticon base flat. As they let Starscream go, Optimus couldn't help mocking him. {{storylink|Espionage!!!!!}}

====Ask Vector Prime====
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The Autobots subsequently returned to Cybertron aboard a refueled and repaired ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' with the defeated Decepticons, taking the Decepticons on Cybertron unawares and quickly capturing control Cybertron. Peace reigned for a time until a series of natural disasters began, the source of which was determined to be the planet [[Moebius]] in [[Gargent 087.0 Kappa|a parallel universe]]. The Autobots assembled a team to travel to this alternate universe and stop the threat; Optimus Prime personally led the team, unwilling to put anyone in more danger than himself. Wheeljack, Hoist, Jazz, Prowl, and Silverstreak comprised the rest of the team; they dubbed themselves [[Spy Changer]]s because they aimed to achieve their goal with stealth and diplomacy. The team modified their bodies to match the native cyborgs using data acquired from the [[Sky Spy]] and traveled to the 22nd Strata but were soon attacked by the local [[Guardian (GoBots)|Guardian]]s, who mistakenly presumed them to be [[Renegade]]s. The Spy Changers were then rescued by the real Renegades, who presumed them to be potential allies and took them back to their flagship, the ''[[Rogue Star]]''. Renegade leader [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] attempted to court the Spy Changers as allies, but Optimus saw through Cy-Kill's deception. Eventually, the Autobots formed a secret alliance with the Guardians as well as discovered the cause of Cybertron's troubles: Renegade bases on Moebius were draining the planet's energy. The planet's geometry had turned it into a crude [[Dimensional Interfacer]], and Moebius was tapping into Cybertron to sustain itself. Hoist was able to end the crisis by triggering the bases' remote detonation sequence. Cy-Kill was furious, but in the ensuing battle, the Autobot-Guardian alliance triumphed over the Renegades. Optimus Prime and [[Leader-1 (GoBots)|Leader-1]] shook hands as a symbol of the transdimensional friendship, and the Autobots returned to their home reality, secure in the knowledge that they had allies in places as distant as alternate realities. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 30/9/2015}}

===Toy pack-in material===
While exploring Cybertron's hemisphere of darkness, Optimus Prime became several damaged, and unable to return to the hemisphere of light. Having been able to send out one last message before his memory was badly damaged, Optimus found himself unable to distinguish friend from foe, and would join (or rejoin) whichever faction found him first. {{storylink|Optimus Prime Is Back}}

Optimus toppled the mighty [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], stopping the titan from attacking some power-lines. He next moved on to blasting Devastator's back-up, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Sweepstakes Offer!}}
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===Highway Clash===
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Optimus and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] secretly guarded a shipment of microchips that could be used to imbue sentience onto robots. Posing as the lorry transporting the precious cargo across the Yorkshire Dales, he was attacked by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] who sought the microchips to create an army of Decepticons. With [[you]]r help, Optimus may or may not have been successful in keeping the microchips out of the Decepticons' hands. {{storylink|Highway Clash}}
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===Find Your Fate Junior===
More than any other Transformer in these micro-continuity-nexuses, Optimus Prime had to make a ''lot'' of tough decisions. So tough in fact, that he usually needed help...from [[you]]!
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====Dinobots Strike Back====
In the first nexus, when [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] reported back to Autobot HQ that the other [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] were being controlled by [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell's]] [[cerebro-shell]]s, Optimus had to decide whether to stop them with an immediate full-scale assault, or consult the Ark's computer. If he led an immediate attack, the cerebro-shells were jolted loose when his troops carried out his order to, "Bring them down fast and hard". If he consulted the computer, he then had to choose between its plan to have [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] remove the shells from a distance with his magnetic powers, or go with [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage's]] idea to lure the Dinobots over [[Bandit's Bluff]] with an Optimus Prime hologram. If he chose Mirage's plan, the Dinobots charged over the cliff and into the ocean, where they were salvaged for repairs back at base. If he let Windcharger lead operations at the bluff so he could confer with [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] about some strange activity near [[Dolphin's Bay]], it was out of his hands whether Windcharger accidentally tore the Dinobots to bits, or harmlessly removed the cerebro-shells. The latter outcome led to [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] telling Optimus that Bombshell said controlling them was just part of a larger plan, and the Autobot leader realized that it might tie in to Skids's report. Skids and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] could investigate in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack's]] new mini-sub, but should he send [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] along with them?

If he didn't send Sludge with them, the odds were 2 to 1 that the Autobots would all be destroyed as part of Operation Black Coral. The one possible positive outcome ended with Optimus fighting a duel against [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] atop [[Mount Lomas]] in which Prime (somehow) split into his three components to surround his archenemy. This provoked [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] into "assisting" his leader with an earthquake that destroyed the Decepticons' entire superfuel operation.

If Optimus ''did'' send Sludge to Dolphin's bay, he ensured the Autobots' triumph in four different outcomes! Three of these involved Optimus leading a full-scale assault on the Decepticon base hidden in Mount Lomas, and whether he followed [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl's]] or Windcharger's plan of attack, Operation Black Coral was terminated. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}
====Battle Drive====
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Suspicious at the lack of recent Decepticon activity, Optimus Prime sent Bumblebee out on a scouting mission. When Bumblebee did not return for some time, Optimus began to worry, and sent out Prowl, Hound and Swoop to check up on the little Autobot.

In several versions of the events that unfolded next, Swoop would return to the Autobots' headquarters, and inform Optimus and his troops that the rest of his group was under Decepticon attack, and Optimus would subsequently lead his troops to rescue them.

In an alternate version of the following events, Bumblebee would return to base, reporting that the Decepticons were planning to destroy the humans' farmlands in an attempt to starve mankind and force them into submission. Upon hearing these news, Optimus gathered a squad of Autobots and headed out to stop the evil robots. However, once they found themselves in the open country, they found themselves at the mercy of a Decepticon ambush; Bumblebee had been fed false information! In one iteration of the events that followed, Optimus could have avoided his death if only he had listened to [[you]]r warning! In another iteration, Optimus had to decide whether he should send his Autobots away to the safety of a nearby bridge while he fended off the encroaching Decepticon horde, or if he should remain by the side of his troops as they all made a break for the bridge. Remaining as a single unit would spell their doom, but by sticking together, the Autobots could make it back to the safety of their base. {{storylink|Battle Drive}}
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====Attack of the Insecticons====
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In the third nexus, Optimus oversaw [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] testing [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]'s latest invention, the [[Sun-Pak]], a miraculous device capable of fuelling a Transformer for an entire Earth day after being charged for only an hour in sunlight. As the trial-run wound down to an end, the Decepticons suddenly burst into the Autobots' secret underground testing facility, forcing Optimus to decide whether to order a tactical retreat, or have his Autobots fight the intruders despite his troops' low energy reserves. If he chose to stand and fight, he had the additional choice to either make the Autobots concentrate on Starscream, who is leading the charge against the Autobots, or divide his troops' attention onto all of the Decepticon assailants. If Optimus chose to attempt to eliminate Starscream once and for all, the Decepticon Seeker would beg for mercy, forcing Optimus into a choice yet again: accept the snivelling Decepticon's surrender, or continue his attempt to end Starscream's evil once and for all. Accepting Starscream's surrender spells victory for the Autobots, whereas ignoring Starscream pleas ultimately leads to Sparkplug being kidnapped by the Decepticons, necessitating Optimus to send Buster, Blaster and Bumblebee on a perilous retrieval mission while the other Autobots recharge at the Autobots' home base.

Alternatively, if Optimus chose to retreat either when initially confronted with the overwhelming Decepticon threat, or after realizing that his troops are too weak to fight after ordering them to concentrate their firepower equally amongst the intruding Decepticons, the ensuing underground adventure can have multiple outcomes; the Autobots become the captive of the Insecticons, forcing Optimus to either entrust Beachcomber with the fate of his troops, or to bargain with the Insecticons for the safe release of his Autobots; or dealing with the theft of the Sun-Pak by either duelling Megatron for the device's ownership, stealing the Sun-Pak back from the Decepticons or charging Mirage and Buster with the device's retrieval. If Optimus duels Megatron for the device, he either wins through brute force or by being more "cunning" than Megatron and destroying the device before the Decepticons can claim it as their victory prize. If Optimus attempts to steal the Sun-Pak under the Decepticons' noses, Optimus is shot by Megatron when the Decepticon leader notices Optimus and Smokescreen skulking towards the Sun-Pak. The Autobots nonetheless retrieve it when Smokescreen blots out the sun with his emission fumes, forcing Megatron to pass the Sun-Pak towards Buzzsaw in order to bypass the Autobots' smog cover, only for Optimus to intercept Megatron's pass and drive away with the Sun-Pak in Autobot possession. Finally, if Optimus has entrusted the Sun-Pak's retrieval to Mirage and Buster, the Autobot leader makes the duo swear not to engage the enemy for fear of their safety. If his Autobots keep their promise to him, Optimus is called in alongside the rest of the Autobots when the Insecticons are discovered, and Optimus leads a successful ambush towards the Insecticons, at the cost of the Sun-Pak itself. {{storylink|Attack of the Insecticons}}

====Earthquake====
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Optimus was enjoying the lull in Decepticon activity along with the rest of his Autobots, when he recommended that Beachcomber take a vacation. Beachcomber gladly accepted.

In one possible scenario, Optimus was surprised to see Beachcomber return to Autobot headquarters soon after his departure. Beachcomber informed Optimus that he had uncovered the Decepticon's newest hidden fortress, and he suspected that the Decepticons were up to something big. Optimus sent out Beachcomber once more, this time along with Powerglide and Windcharger to investigate the Decepticons' plot further.

Optimus then stood at the ready to send over reinforcements when called upon by Beachcomber’s squad.

In one possible sequence of events, Powerglide was captured and reprogrammed by the Decepticons, leading their army to Autobot headquarters. Taken by surprised, the Autobots were felled one by one until only Optimus remained. As Megatron gloated that he would not kill Optimus, only alter him so as to make him the bane of humanity, Optimus activated the Ark’s self-destruct sequence, taking all of the Decepticons with him in a fiery explosion.

In another possible sequence of events, the trio returned to Autobot headquarters to relate their findings to Optimus Prime. The Decepticons planned to use a Destruction Beam to create a fault line near Center City, which would in turn be exploited by Rumble’s earthquake-inducing abilities to destroy the entire area. The Autobots then decided to split up in two groups, one to attack the Decepticons’ fortress, the other to stop Rumble in Center City. Optimus headed the lead team.

If Optimus decided to send the lead team to attack the Decepticon headquarters, the team managed to infiltrate the Decepticon headquarters by using Beachcomber’s knowledge of the secret doors’ location, and Brawn’s strength to keep the doors opened. The Autobots then stormed the fortress, and Optimus maimed Megatron himself with a shot of his rifle. He then grappled the Decepticon leader, and forced him to lead himself, Inferno and Beachcomber to the Decepticons’ lab. There, the Autobots disabled and destroyed the Destruction Beam device, captured Megatron, and left many Decepticons permanently maimed. Though they later traded Megatron back to the Decepticons for the safe relief of the Autobots captured in Center City, the Autobots were ultimately victorious that day.

If Optimus decided to send the lead team to defend Center City, he carries Cosmos in his trailer, so as not to cause a panic amongst the humans. Miserable in his current position, Cosmos asked Optimus to let him join the secondary team’s attack on the fortress, where he felt he would be more helpful.

If Optimus insisted that Cosmos stay with the group, the Autobots’ next objective would be to meet up with Sparkplug, with whom they consulted on whether the Autobots should enter Centre City in their [[robot mode]]s or in their [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]s.

If Sparkplug suggested that the Autobots not worry about subtlety, the entire squad transformed and began prowling the streets in search of Decepticons. Oblivious to the panic they were causing, Optimus assumed that the Decepticons were spotted nearby when a police officer declared that the city was under siege by giant robots. Unable to restore order in time to halt the Decepticons’ plot, Optimus and the rest of his team were destroyed in the ensuing earthquake.

If Sparkplug suggested that the Autobots remained in their vehicle modes, he would concoct a plan where the Autobots would help evacuate the entire town in their vehicle modes. With no more than four trips in and out of the city, Optimus and the rest of the team carried out the plan without incident. The Autobots then transformed and engaged the approaching Decepticons, whom they easily dispatched. With the city safe, the Autobots moved out to help their comrades at the Decepticon fortress.

In an alternate scenario, wherein Beachcomber, Windcharger and Powerglide were captured by the Decepticons while snooping around the secret fortress, Optimus was tricked into leading his troops to their doom by a false S.O.S. sent out by Megatron.

In yet another possible scenario, Beachcomber returned from his day off early to inform Optimus that Jessie had been taken prisoner by the Decepticons. Optimus deployed a team of Autobots to go to the girl’s rescue. Shortly before arriving at their destination, the Autobots had to choose their next course of action; they could either storm the Decepticon fortress by force, or try to sneak in through a secret passage Buster had previously discovered.

If they decided to storm the fortress, Beachcomber would become nervous, and urge his fellow Autobots to find a more peaceful way to resolve the situation. Optimus sternly told him that this was not the time for one of his anti-war speeches. This moment of hesitation ultimately cost the Autobots the battle, and the Decepticons triumphed that day.

If they decided a stealthier approach, the Autobots quietly entered the Decepticon base, and set out to shoot down any Decepticons they encountered, save Megatron, whom they planned to capture. After encountering some resistance from their foes, the Autobots came upon branch in the passageway, and had to choose to go left or right.

If they took the right passageway, the group soon happened upon Jessie, whom they freed. Telling them she knew the location of the Decepticons’ lab, Jessie then led the group into a Decepticon trap; she had been brainwashed. The Autobots were captured and Megatron’s plan to destroy Center City came to fruition.

If they took the left passageway, the group happened upon Megatron’s lab. Though Megatron attempted to trick Optimus into activating the Fortress’s self-destruct sequence, Optimus was too clever to be duped. After deactivating both the Destruction beam and the Decepticons themselves, the Autobots found Jessie tied up in a cell. The Autobots then celebrated their victory by guzzling a few quarts of fine-grade oil.

In a final possible path, wherein the Decepticons attempted to turn Beachcomber into a Decepticon double agent but fumbled the process, Optimus made Beachcomber into an Autobot double agent. With his help, the Autobots hoped to soon win their war with the Decepticons. {{storylink|Earthquake (book)|Earthquake}}
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====Desert Flight====
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When the Autobot-Decepticon civil war had yet to expand beyond Cybertron, Optimus had encountered a Decepticon weapon that weakened the gravitational pull within a confined area. The weapon being unreliable, Optimus had always assumed the Decepticons would not bother attempting to use it again.

Now on Earth, Optimus was leading a group of his best scouts on a fuel-finding mission when they heard a tremendous explosion go off nearby. Optimus recognized the sound of the explosion as being Dirge’s concussion missiles. Though Powerglide offered to go investigate the explosion, Optimus opted to send out Cosmos instead.

If Cosmos radioed his findings to Optimus immediately, Optimus’s convoy moved in to investigate a nearby Decepticon base. En route, the Autobots passed near a human town, but began floating in mid-air before being able to reach it. Optimus quickly deduced that this phenomenon was caused by an anti-gravity beam, courtesy of the Decepticons. Worried about the nearby humans also being affected by the lapse in gravity, Optimus had to decide whether he would order his troops to stop and help the townspeople, or to continue forward and attack the Decepticon base.

If Optimus ordered his troops to come to the humans’ aid, they found themselves taking part in a struggle in futility, as the entire town was near-weightless, meaning they couldn’t put the humans anywhere where they wouldn’t float away once more. Then, the Autobots heard Decepticons approaching. Helpless in their current position, the Autobots were quickly eradicated by the Decepticons.

If Optimus ordered his troops to attack the Decepticon base, they soon reached an area free of the anti-gravity beam’s influence. They were then attacked by a small fleet of Decepticons. Optimus targeted their squad leader, Dirge, knowing that by downing him, the Decepticons would be significantly demoralized. Dirge was forced to break-off his attack when his back-up was taken out, knowing he wouldn’t be able to take Optimus on without it. Losing their advantage quickly, the Decepticons retreated. But with the battle over, the Autobots noticed a small human boy at their feet. The boy was [[Buddy]], a stowaway from the nearby town, and though Optimus was displeased with the tag-along, the Autobots could not spare the time to bring him home. Arriving at the Decepticon base, Megatron delivered an ultimatum; if the Autobots did not surrender Optimus Prime to the Decepticons immediately, he would use his gravity beam to have the nearby humans float off into space.

If the Autobots decided to continue with their initial plan to simply attack the Decepticon base, their advance was halted by a force field. Megatron then fired his beam in all directions, causing a ripple effect that sent everything not fastened down to the Earth’s surface to float helplessly out into space.

Alternatively, the Autobots could concoct a plan where Optimus would pretend to allow himself to be taken prisoner, per Buddy’s suggestion. The Decepticons, fooled into thinking they’ve won, took Optimus Prime into their base. Having hidden his troops inside his trailer, Optimus and the Autobots then led a surprise attack on their unsuspecting foes.

In the event that Windcharger successfully turned the Decepticons’ forcefield off, reinforcements burst into the base just as Megatron was strike Optimus from behind. A wayward shot from Megatron then revealed the location of the gravity gun to the Autobots. Optimus ordered his troops to charge the weapon. Hook caught Optimus in the gravity gun’s sights, and sent the Autobot leader floating upwards.

If Buddy came to Optimus’s rescue and toyed with the gravity gun’s control panel just as Hook turned the weapon to full power, the weapon would swivel and catch Megatron in its beam, tearing the Decepticon leader to pieces instead of Optimus. The Autobots then proceeded to defeat the remaining Decepticons and claim victory.

If Buddy instead cowered away, Cosmos came to Optimus’s rescue. Optimus then instructed Cosmos to send him flying towards Hook; the pair took out the Constructicon, and gained control of the gravity beam.

If Buddy and Tracks entered a space-time anomaly created during the battle, the Autobots would lose their stand-off against the Decepticons, and Optimus would be taken prisoner by Megatron.

If Tracks decided that Beachcomber could wait, he helped Optimus overload the anti-gravity gun, starting a chain-reaction that would cause the weapon to explode in a tremendous explosion. Optimus instructed both Tracks and Buddy to run away as he finished tampering with the weapon.

If Buddy lingered in wait for Optimus Prime to finish his task, Dirge flew by and dropped a missile onto Optimus, damaging his leg. Thankfully, Buddy assisted Optimus in repairing his leg. The pair then ran to safety as the anti-gravity gun self-destructed, taking a number of Decepticons with it.

If Buddy ran off as Optimus sabotaged the anti-gravity gun, the boy was captured by Laserbeak, prompting Optimus to turn the gravity beam on the Decepticon to free Buddy.

In a completely different possible sequence of events, wherein Cosmos had taken off to explore the Decepticon base on his own, Optimus was surprised to see two Cosmoses flying back towards his convoy some time later. Both Cosmoses declared themselves to be the real one, and urged Optimus to destroy the other.

If Optimus destroyed the wrong Cosmos, the duplicate obliterated Optimus and his squad with the proton bomb it housed within its body.

If Optimus destroyed the duplicate Cosmos, the real one would inform the Autobots of the Decepticons’ schemes, and the convoy would roll out to take on their adversaries. They were soon met by a squad of flying Decepticons, but were at a strict disadvantage against their adversaries as their vehicle modes possessed no weapons. The Autobots nonetheless managed to fight their way to the Decepticons’ base, one way or another, and defeated the Decepticons by using their own gravity weapon against them. {{storylink|Desert Flight}}
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====Decepticon Poison====
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Optimus was amongst the Autobots about to be topped up with their latest batch of fuel when Red Alert burst into Autobot headquarters, warning everyone about Ramjet being spotted nearby. Red Alert’s warning came in just in time, as the Autobots’ fuel had been poisoned, and Optimus would have been left unable to transform had he ingested any of it.

Optimus was advised of two plans; Perceptor suggested that the Autobots stay on the defensive while the scientist attempt to come up with a cure, while Prowl wanted the healthy Autobots to go out and try to find out what the Decepticons were up to.

If Optimus went along with Perceptor’s plan, he sent out Sparkplug to fetch the Autobots’ secret stash of emergency fuel. Putting all of his faith in the Autobot scientist to uncover a cure swiftly, Optimus attempted to comfort his troops as they all began to experience sickness pains. Then, Red Alert informed Optimus of a Decepticon attack force moving in on their position, prompting Optimus to ask Perceptor to dispense whatever cure he had been able to concoct, despite it being untested. Perceptor suggested another course of action to Optimus; the tainted fuel the Autobots had left untouched could be used to create a poisonous smog if lit aflame. The Autobots could attempt to poison the Decepticons with their own concoction, or they could risk the untested antidote, despite whatever side-effects it may have.

If Optimus decided to risk Perceptor’s antidote, he stood by as the Autobot scientist attempted to figure out how much antidote was a safe amount to give out to each Autobot.

If Perceptor gave out the right amount of an antidote, the poisoned Autobots were cured. Optimus ordered his troops to ready themselves for the incoming squadron of Decepticons. Perceptor’s antidote did have a side-effect on the Autobots, however; it gave them a fierce battle-fever, making them eager to take on the Decepticons head-on. Prowl suggested to Optimus that they instead opt for a more conniving counterstrike against the Decepticons, and ambush them instead.

If Optimus allowed the cured Autobots to charge headlong into battle, he and the rest of the Autobots who were still running low on fuel stayed behind as back-up to the main charge. The Autobots’ first wave of warriors were quickly overpowered by the arrival of Megatron, prompting Optimus to lead the energy-depleated Autobots into the fray. Optimus’s opening volley struck down Shockwave. Optimus and his troops soon found themselves running on empty, and Optimus called for a retreat. Thankfully, the Decepticons were damaged enough through the course of the battle, causing them to retreat as well.

If Optimus instead followed Prowl’s plan, he instructed his troops to transform into vehicle mode and play dead. The Decepticons, believing the Autobots’ ruse, disarmed themselves in order to carry out the Autobots’ “carcasses.” Now with the element of surprise against unarmed opponent, the Autobots Transformed and were able to easily defeat the evil robots.

In another possible turn of events, Perceptor gave out too much of his antidote to each Autobot. The Autobots who received the antidote soon found themselves falling apart, leaving Optimus and the rest outmatched against the greater number of Decepticons.

Alternatively, if Optimus chose to use the tainted fuel against the Decepticons, he ordered Grapple to carry out the vat outside of headquarters. He then instructed Grapple to lower the vat into a nearby pit, and instructed Jazz to torch the fuel with his flamethrower. He and Jazz waited until the last possible moment to carry out their plan, and once the fuel was lit, they dived to safety inside the Autobot base with the other Autobots. As the toxic cloud successfully turned away the Decepticons, Optimus was surprised to see Sunstreaker once more fully operational. Having been bought enough time, Perceptor was able to successfully cure the poisoned Autobots. Their ranks fully replenished and the Decepticons turning tail meant the Autobots had earned themselves another victory.

In a completely different scenario, Optimus agreed to Prowl’s plan to go on the offensive and try and discover the full extent of the Decepticons’ plans. Optimus nominated Prowl, Bumblebee and Mirage to go along with him on the mission. The group refuelled with the gas that Sparkplug brought back from the Autobots’ secret storage area, and took off. The group soon happened upon the Decepticons’ lab in the middle of a barren, polluted wasteland.

If all four Autobots ventured together into the Decepticons’ lab, they first encountered Laserbeak, only to quickly dispatch him. Venturing further into the lab, the group soon spotted the antidote they were after, and sent Mirage to fetch it. Mirage returned with the beaker and news; he had heard Ramjet and Starscream talking about using a new poison to turn humans into mindless slaves.

In light of this news, if Optimus decided to nonetheless head back directly to Autobot headquarters, his squad returned to find their comrades nearly dead from the poison. But with Ratchet’s help, the antidote was quickly distributed, and the Autobots sprung back to life. Now cured, the Autobots discussed their next course of action; they had to prevent the Decepticons from poisoning the nearby water reservoir.

If Optimus led his troops back to the Decepticons’ poison lab, the convoy happened upon the Decepticons hauling barrels of poison out of the poison lab. Windcharger and Ironhide suggested two different plans to Optimus: Windcharger wanted to use his magnetic powers to cause a confusion, while Ironhide wanted to simply go in for a full frontal assault.

Whether Optimus decided to go with Windcharger or Ironhide's plan, the Autobots successfully destroyed the Decepticons’ lab and returned to base victoriously.

Alternatively, if Optimus decided to head to the water reservoir instead of the Decepticons’ lab, the Autobots reached their destination only to find it already swarming with Decepticons. Powerglide then decided to go ahead on his own to lead the Decepticons away from the reservoir, but Optimus objected.

If Powerglide did not heed Optimus orders, he indadvertedly caused the water supply to be poisoned anyways. If however, Powerglide listened to Optimus’s orders, the Autobots attempted to lure the Decepticons away from the reservoir and into some nearby woods, where the Autobots would have some cover against the Decepticons. Finding themselves under heavy fire before they could reach the treeline, the Autobots were forced to fight back in the open. With Autobots falling beside him, Optimus gritted his teeth and took careful aim at the poison containers the Decepticons were carrying. After taking out both of the planes carrying the poison, Optimus continued to battle Megatron and his Decepticons until nightfall, until the Autobots were finally victorious.

If however Optimus ordered his troops to deal with the Decepticons before returning to base with the antidote, Prowl suggested that he use his incendiary missiles to destroy the poison first, but Optimus thought that course of action might be too risky. He considered dealing with Ramjet and Starscream first.

If the Autobots went along with Prowl’s strategy, the resulting heat from the explosion caused the Autobots’ circuits to overheat, rendering them unconscious. Upon reawakening, the Autobots found themselves captives of Megatron, who informed them that their fellow Autobots would soon perish, and that the humans would be conquered by the Decepticons shortly after.

If Optimus instead decided to deal with Ramjet and Starscream first, his troop easily overpowered the pair, and made them watch as they destroyed their work. Optimus then taunted Ramjet and Starscream, telling them that the Autobots would soon be at full fighting force, before returning to Autobot headquarters with the antidote.

If instead of all heading into the lab together, the Autobots had sent in Bumblebee alone, and Bumblebee subsequently managed to escape with the antidote to the Decepticons’ poison, the Autobots escaped from the [[Decepticon Poison Lab|Valley of Poison]] and returned to Autobot headquarters. Once the other Autobots were cured, they all drank a toast to Bumblebee, to celebrate his part in the mission {{storylink|Decepticon Poison}}
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===Milton Bradley mini-comic===
Optimus was one of the many soldiers fighting under the command of the Autobot leader, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. He was among the Autobots who launched in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to clear a path through an asteroid belt. When the Decepticons attacked the ship, he fought a Seeker Decepticon while Jetfire sent the Ark crashing into [[Earth]], knocking everyone aboard offline. Four million years later, they were repaired when the ship's systems were reactivated by a volcanic eruption. {{storylink|In the Transformers}}

===Frito-Lay posters===
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Optimus and his Autobots defended important data about the power source of [[Sherman Dam|Boulder Dam]]. He blasted Megatron with full fury! Ultimately, the Autobots were victorious in defending the dam. {{storylink|Battle in the Desert Valley}}
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===''Transformers in 3-D''===
Not long after his resurrection, Optimus was alerted by [[Monitorus]] to an attack on [[Tau-Ursa]]. Optimus's impending speech was interrupted by a Decepticon attack led by [[Sixshot]]. Prime soon discovered that the attack was a diversion, while Galvatron tried out his [[Nullification Cannon]] on Cybertron's Energon supplies. Optimus rushed to the Energon plant, but, after clouting [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] so hard that the Decepticon was left dangling over a precipice, Prime's morals forced him to rescue the Decepticon instead of stopping Galvatron from getting away.

Although Cybertron's Energon stocks were destroyed, the Autobots discovered a recording pointing to the [[Logicon]] planet [[Metascan Alpha]], which had Energon in abundance. Optimus ordered Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus to take a team each to find the planet. The Autobots discovered they were being spied on by the Decepticon [[Clone (subgroup)|Clone]]s, and Optimus swore that Galvatron could pay. He led a team to the derelict space destroyer which the Decepticons were using for a base and fought their leader one-on-one. As he was about to destroy the Nullification Cannon, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] took a swing at him which connected instead with the Cannon, obliterating it. Optimus was helped away from the destruction by [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]]. {{storylink|The War Against the Destructons, Chapter 1 of 3}}

===''Transformers PD Type''===
[[File:PDtype-Matrixattack.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|This is the highlight of this entire page.]]
When a horde of time-displaced Decepticons joined forces to hunt down the five [[Blackball]]s, a super energy source, Optimus Prime gathered a team of time-displaced Autobots to help stop them.

In one encounter with his arch-foe [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], they reenacted their epic struggle from the [[Battle of Autobot City]]. However, this time around, Prime avoided dying by launching his "Matrix Attack"...''literally'' launching the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from his chest, bonking Megatron on the head. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##1 "You're Great! Optimus Prime!"|You're Great! Optimus Prime!}}

Later, Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] concocted a cunning strategy. They disguised a round, black cartoon explosive as a Blackball and gave it to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Starscream promptly brought it to Megatron, where it blew both of them up. Optimus and Magnus were astounded their plan actually worked. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##3 "Don't Cry! Megatron!!"|Don't Cry! Megatron!!}}

In one of his less impressive moments, after running out of ammo during a battle with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], Optimus Prime ordered his fellow Autobots to improvise and hurl everything that wasn't nailed down at their enemy. This included the Blackball, unfortunately. Catching it, Deathsaurus began to fantasize about his inevitable galactic conquest, all the while being pelted with rocks and litter. Frustrated, Deathsaurus accidentally hurled the Blackball back to the Autobots in a fit of rage. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##4 "Good Job! Deathsaurus!!"|Good Job! Deathsaurus!!}}
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===The Official ''Transformers: Generation 2'' Annual===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual|Optimus Prime's ''The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual'' profile}} {{storylink|Day of the Decepticons}} {{storylink|The Dinobots!}} {{storylink|Moving Day Planet Earth}}}}

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===Hero Prime===
====''Comic Bom Bom G-2'' manga====
[[File:G2Hero.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|HE'S LOOKING AT ME, ISN'T HE?]]
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.

Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.

However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime's resilience, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron's attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth's atmosphere, vowing to return.

Optimus Prime addressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei's help in making that future a reality. {{storylink|The New Battle!!}}

====Fun Publications====
[[File:InvasionPrologue-Primes.jpg|left|thumb|Front row, on the left]]

At some point, [[Archforce]] posed a threat to both Optimus Prime and Megatron. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 10/8/2015}}

Leaving his home universe, the Optimus Prime of [[Primax 895.0 Gamma]] was gathered in [[Axiom Nexus]] by [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|its Optimus Prime]], along with a roster of other Optimus Primes and [[Sentinel Maximus|their]] [[Lio Convoy|kin]] in a group known as the [[Convoy (group)|Convoy]], in which he was redubbed "Hero Prime". {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 49|Optimus Prime bio in Club magazine #49}} A multiversal cataclysm in [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon|a universe]] seeded with [[Rarified Energon]] and an invasion by [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|natives from the negative polarity universe]] had called them into action. Since Matrix bearers were usually never allowed into Axiom Nexus, this was a grave threat indeed! {{storylink|Invasion Prologue}}

Seeking help to protect the [[Origin Matrix]], Hero Prime and "[[Optimus Prime (Armada)#Beast Prime|Beast Prime]]" disguised themselves using cloaks and sought out [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], hoping to make use of his hunting skills. {{storylink|Invasion: Epilogue}}

Hero Prime's name was on a list of Convoy members that [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Commander Cheetor]] gave to [[Andromeda (TransTech)|Andromeda]], which noted Prime's home reality and his moniker. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News, 21/5/2015}}

Hero Prime was present at a meeting of the Convoy after the turmoil caused by the [[Waruder]] invasion of Axiom Nexus. {{storylink|Cybertron's Most Wanted}}

===''Beast Wars'' toy bios===
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Formerly a trailer truck, Optimus Prime took on the new identity of "Convobat" along with an appropriate bat mode. In this form, he fought against [[Megatron (G1)#Beast Wars toy bios|Megaligator]]. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#AmazonConvobat|Amazon Showdown Convobat bio}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
[[File:G1Prime BWMegs.jpg|left|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]
The [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark sometime after its crash on prehistoric Earth. [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]], following [[Megatron (G1)|his namesake's]] instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime's face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} However, [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime's spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime's spark's connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] "Optimal Optimus" form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime's spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth's ''Voyager'' spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}
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====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
[[File:Sparkwar2 Optimus hologram primal.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Holographic Optimus wants to grab you]]
{{voiceactor|[[Garry Chalk]] (English)|[[Tilo Schmitz]] (German), [[Alfonso Ramírez]] (Latin American)}}

Optimus appeared to have fallen in "the final battle" against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|The Search}}

An enormous [[Optimus Prime memorial|statue]] of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disks]], could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon forces]]. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}} Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]], claiming to contain the "essence" of the real Prime that had been stored here since the Final Battle. Primal was conned by this and was tricked by the hologram into accessing the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. Megatron seized control of the Oracle code and quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron's mind. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|The Search}}
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====3H comics====
[[File:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|left|upright=1.05|thumb|"Oh, I also have this in me now, too."]]
Before he took the name "Optimus Prime," the future leader of the Autobots took up the banner of his fallen Monark, and rallied the troops around him against the Decepticons, vowing to "never surrender." {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Covenant}}

[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] hated Optimus Prime but respected [[Hot Rod|Rodimus]] though Cyclonus would later taunt that Rodimus couldn't get anything done while not mourning Optimus. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

After the Beast Wars had ended and the Maximals and Predacons that survived it had headed home, the Vok entered the Ark and removed the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime. They used it to create [[Primal Prime]], and then gave the Matrix to their new creation. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 1}} {{storylink|Primeval Dawn II}}

{{note|''Primeval Dawn'' was never completed, but presumably the Matrix was returned to Optimus Prime's body before Primal Prime returned to Cybertron.}}

[[File:Jnwan.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Massive psychotic breaks with reality are the right of all sentient beings.]]
After the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Optimus Prime disappeared with other legends into the mysterious location on Cybertron dubbed [[J'nwan]], where Optimus himself became the "Authority" who spoke on behalf of the others. [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]], the leader of a rebellion in a 32nd-century firmly under the heel of the tyrannical [[Shokaract]], entered J'nwan to plead with the heroes of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s past for aid. He hoped to convince them to join the fight against the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] warlord. After a mind-crushing journey which left all of his companions dead or deranged, Sandstorm finally found an audience with the Authority and his brethren, but they declined to help, with the Authority stating that their time was past and the war was no longer their war. The Authority then in some way manipulated Sandstorm's trip out of J'nwan such that it was comparatively short and simple. {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Paradox}}

When the warlord [[Shokaract]], powered by [[Unicron]]'s [[Dark Essence]], traveled into the past to secure his own future, the occupants of J'nwan decided to act. Optimus Prime, Megatron, Soundwave, and Grimlock joined Sandstorm on prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] where the battle with Shokaract had already begun. When the [[Covenant]] arrived to vanquish the Dark Essence and defeat Shokaract, Optimus Prime and the others escaped through portals as that timeline was erased from existence. {{storylink|Terminus (issue)|Terminus}} {{storylink|Departure}}

When [[Hot Rod|Rodimus]] died, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] responded to [[Fractyl]]'s attempt to comfort her by stating that it was alright as Rodimus was now with Optimus and the friends who loved and missed him while they were gone. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
{{BW Shell Game}}
While traveling back to Cybertron at the conclusion of the Beast Wars, Optimus Primal reflected on past events. Among these was Megatron's attempt to dispatch Optimus Prime while he was in stasis lock within the Ark. {{storylink|Shell Game issue 1|Shell Game #1}}

====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
Optimus Prime died on Cybertron in [[2035]] during the final days of the Great War, alongside Galvatron. {{storylink|Dawn of the Predacus}}

While [[Magmatron]] was surveying the timestream, he witnessed several key moments taking place during the Beast Wars. Among them was [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] blasting a stasis-locked Optimus Prime in the face. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

===''Universe'' comic===
As the [[Universe War]] began, [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] was shown a myriad of Transformers from across all timelines that he could choose to recruit into his [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] in the battle against the [[Minion of Unicron|Minions of Unicron]]. One such possibility was a Transformer who was either [[Thunder Clash]] or Optimus Prime, but, regardless, Primal chose [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] instead. {{storylink|Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming}}

===''Beast Wars Metals'' comic===
[[File:CheetasManga1.jpg|upright=0.55|thumb|Cheetor, that's Prime's Spark, not a toy.]]
Optimus Prime was blasted into pieces by Dragon Megatron. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 5|Beast Wars Metals #5}} Fortunately, his spark remained perfectly intact—in the remains of his Matrix-shaped spark chamber. Megatron was going to destroy Prime's spark, but [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (now in his Transmetal body) saved it. Prime's spark was eventually swallowed by Optimus Primal, who was upgraded into Optimal Optimus by doing so.

After Megatron was killed by Optimal Optimus, Primal and his crew said it would be troublesome to fix Optimus Prime's body. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 6|Beast Wars Metals #6}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
In a reality where the Dinobots consisted of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], and [[Paddles (character)|Paddles]], Optimus won the latter's admiration, so much so that the Dinobot would spout such things as "by the will of Optimus Prime!" to himself. {{storylink|Paddles (story)|Paddles}}

When Bumblebee, Hound and Spike brought a badly-damaged Starscream back to the Ark, Optimus struggled with the ethical implications of allowing Wheeljack and Ratchet to mess with the Decepticon's logic circuits, but gave them the go ahead. Starscream proved to be amnesic, and Optimus was able to take the opportunity to help him as much as possible, even physically preventing Megatron from retrieving his former lieutenant when Starscream opted to stay with the Autobots. Though Starscream left as soon as he regained his memory, Prime reflected that they'd learned that maybe it was possible to reason with a Decepticon. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

After passing the Matrix to Ultra Magnus and expiring in the aftermath of the [[battle of Autobot City]], Optimus Prime found himself in [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]]. There he encountered Optimus Primal and another [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] from a [[Unicron Trilogy|different universe]]. Together, the four of them overcame the other Optimus Prime's doubts about his leadership, before returning to their respective time lines. {{storylink|Prime Spark (story)|Prime Spark}}

In [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|one reality]], while the Autobots were boarding the Ark, Optimus voiced his lack of confidence in his leadership, before welcoming aboard [[Geosensus]], who was incapable of transforming to [[robot mode]]. Four million years later, Prime and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] found the Ark was under attack and defended it with deadly force. In examining the wreckage of the attackers, they realised that the robot Optimus had destroyed was not a Decepticon but Geosensus, who had forced himself to transform in an attempt to fight off the Decepticons. Though Prime was willing to take the rap, Prowl insisted on covering up the mistake to protect Optimus's image as a leader. {{storylink|Parts}}

When Megatron unleashed the power of a weather machine on the Gulf Coast, Optimus sent out Ratchet to retrieve the damaged [[Sky Spy]] to counteract his foe's new weapon. Ratchet eventually did so, allowing Optimus to destroy the weather machine and thwart the Decepticons' plan. {{storylink|Healers, Fighters, and Transformers}}

===''Cybertron'' comic===
When Vector Prime reminisced on some of the highlights of his multiversal career, he remembered many events involving Optimus Prime. Among these events was Optimus Prime [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|using the Matrix of Leadership]] on the [[Hate Plague]], [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] [[Prime Time!|taunting a disembodied Optimus Prime]], and [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] [[The Agenda (Part III)|firing on the head of Optimus Prime]], creating a time storm that necessitated Vector Prime's intervention to ensure Optimus Prime's survival. {{storylink|Vector Prime: In the Beginning}}
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===''The Beast Within''===
Having been caught unaware by a surprise attack launched by the Decepticons, Optimus led his troops in a losing battle against their mortal enemies. Though Optimus managed to dispatch a few Decepticons, namely Thrust, whom he punched through the chest, he soon found himself crippled and surrounded by enemy forces. Praying to Primus as the Decepticons readied their weapons, Optimus heard Grimlock calling out to his fellow Dinobots to combine, prompting the Autobot leader to yell out a plead to Grimlock to stop. It was too late, however, and [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began rampaging, killing Autobots and Decepticons alike. Taking advantage of the situation nonetheless, Optimus tackled Megatron and began beating on the Decepticon leader. The tide of the battle now shifted, Optimus attempted to reach Grimlock’s consciousness within The Beast so that its mindless carnage could come to a halt. It didn't work. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}

As the battle wore on, Optimus attempted to drive the Autobots too wounded to outrun the Beast themselves to safety, carrying them within his trailer. Jetfire showed up in time to rescue most of his passengers, leaving Optimus to deal with The Beast on his own. Seeing a city coming closer over the horizon, Optimus attempted to reach the Dinobots one last time from within The Beast. As his former troops remained unresponsive, Optimus led The Beast to its doom, blasting it a few more times before leading it to fall into a chasm. Optimus himself was rescued from the fall at the last possible moment by Jetfire’s timely return. As the two of them looked on at the Beast’s inert form, Optimus wondered out loud if their battles would truly ever come to an end. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
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[[File:Optronix optimus.jpg|left|thumb|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]
Optimus Prime started life as '''Optronix''' ''('''Orion''' to his friends)'', {{storylink|Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired}} a data archivist at the [[Vaults]]. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the [[Council of Ancients]] and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process. After dispatching a Decepticon assassination squad sent to, well, assassinate him, he ordered the Autobots to prepare to evacuate Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}

As he and Prowl discussed the wisdom of evacuating, a huge explosion obliterated the [[Forum of Enlightenment]]. Optimus led a team there, realising that the destruction was a message from Megatron. Leaving his team, he ventured underground, encountering [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who blasted him into a pit. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Exploring the underground, Prime had a strange vision of a transparent version of himself, which warned that he had to grasp Cybertron's significance. Then he was attacked by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s, whom he was able to easily best by using the labyrinthine environment to his advantage. He then felt himself led to a confrontation against [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], and both faction leaders met atop of a bridge, overlooking a deep abyss. [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] blasted the bridge Optimus and Megatron were standing on, plunging them into the chasm. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Recovering, Prime heard another disembodied voice telling him about Cybertron. Before he could look for a way out, Megatron found him, and informed him about the true nature of the Matrix, telling Optimus how it could be used to power Cybertron's planetary engines, transforming it into a space-faring war-world. This spurred Optimus to fight back, but before long, Megatron took control of the battle, smashing his fist into Prime's chest to get at the Matrix. A blaze of light enveloped the pair, who found themselves abruptly on 20th century [[Earth]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4|The War Within #4}}

As Megatron explained that the Matrix was giving them a vision of the future, they witnessed themselves battling on [[Sherman Dam]]. The nature of their surroundings established, Megatron resumed the scheduled beating, but a series of setting shifts ended with Optimus reunited with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Grimlock handed Prime a [[sword]] and suggested he finish Megatron for good. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} Optimus found Megatron again, engaging him in combat and announcing that he was playing the game by Megatron's rules now—without mercy. Though he did not slay Megatron, he inflicted enough damage onto him to expunge from his memory the visions the Matrix had granted him. A short time later, Optimus joined the other Autobots in attacking the Decepticons who were trying to use Cybertron's planetary engines. Grimlock was finally impressed with Prime. Thanks to the combined efforts of Optimus and Grimlock's squad, the Decepticons were driven away and the engines were destroyed before they could tear the planet apart. Afterwards, Optimus's group arrived back at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] to find it destroyed. Optimus announced the Autobots were no longer evacuating the planet and threw away the [[Golden Disk (council)|Golden Disk]] full of the knowledge of his predecessors which the council had given him, saying he would choose his own course. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}

Some time into his role as leader, Optimus Prime disappeared in a [[space bridge]] explosion along with Megatron. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}

{{note|Due to [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s closure, the end of its''War Within'' series was never published. Years later, [[Simon Furman]] released the unpublished scripts to the final three issues. The following would have taken place in said issues:
After having spent an extended period of time lost on [[Quintessa]], Optimus was returned to Cybertron by the Turbomasters during their efforts to retrieve the similarly lost [[Flash (G1)|Flash]], who he had been drawn into [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'s [[Dimensional Interface Assembly]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.5}} Though badly damaged, Optimus led an insurrection against the then Megatron-controlled Cybertron, and succesfully overthrew his enemy from power, all the while thwarting a Quintesson invasion. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}}}

[[File:DWPrimeDirective1 Sparkplug newspaper.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|The disaster was being drawn by Pat Lee.]]
Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots protected the planet from the Decepticons. Over the next fifteen years, the Autobots befriended the humans, particularly the [[Witwicky|Witwicky family]]. The Autobots finally allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed ''[[Ark II]]'', along with [[Magnificent Seven|seven humans]], including Witwicky patriarch [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} Before the ship departed, Prime gave a piece of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], Sparkplug's son and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s closest human friend. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} But the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers.

Optimus Prime's body was hauled out of the Arctic Ocean by the US military. While a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the other Transformers that fell back to Earth, the military worked unsuccessfully to reactivate Prime. They eventually called in Spike Witwicky. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} Spike was forced by the project chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use his piece of the Matrix to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}}

The Autobots helped repair a [[Smitco Oil Refinery]] site which the Lazarus-controlled Transformers had attacked. Optimus had no answer for Spikes accusation that the Transformers' presence on Earth was responsible for the destruction. When Megatron's activities at Lazarus's base were spotted by the military, Optimus insisted on the Autobots going in without backup. They discovered Megatron in the middle of a plan to reformat Earth into a new Cybertron using a [[cyber-virus]]. Optimus rejected Megatron's suggestion he should just let it happen, but while the two factions fought, the human military unleashed [[Operation Clean-Up]], dropping a bomb on them. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}}

The energy of the explosion absorbed by the virus, the Autobots dug themselves out and set about recovering their fellows whom Megatron had used to power the cyber-virus in its early stages. [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] passed on a message from Megatron — there was a surprise in store for the Autobot leader. Optimus and some Autobots including [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] sped to [[San Francisco]], where Megatron had unleashed [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As Prime battled Megatron, he took time to save three humans who were threatened by falling debris, only for the humans to turn on him. The defeat of Superion turned the tide of the battle against the Autobots. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}}

[[File:DWPrimeDirective6 Autobots wanttheirheads.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.66|Optimus sets a [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|trend]].]]
Never one to give up, Optimus managed to down Devastator in return, only to find himself at Megatron's mercy. The Decepticon leader pointed out to him the humans' self-obsessed behavior in the face of the devastation, suggesting the fleshlings were worthless, and the Autobots should join the Decepticons in wiping them out. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}} The heroic actions of a team of firefighters and other humans proved to Optimus that the humans were worth saving, and the Autobots delivered a smackdown on the Decepticons. The fight was interrupted by the news that a nuclear missile was inbound, and despite Prime's protests, Superion sacrificed himself intercepting it. Prime recovered from the shock wave to find that the Decepticons had fled. He appealed to Grimlock to return to the Autobot ranks, an offer turned down by the Dinobot. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}

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Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them—and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, and brought a team of [[Triple Changer]]s to apprehend them. As Optimus stared down [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]'s cannon barrel, he was saved by Grimlock, though he subsequently had to order a retreat. Prowl convinced him to let a small team stay as recon while the others returned to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and discussed the change in situation. {{storylink|New World Order}} Though Optimus was puzzled by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] having fallen in with Shockwave, he had little other choice, and surrendered to Magnus. Despite being bound, he took the first opportunity he got to make his feelings clear. Prime and those of his Autobots who had also surrendered were put on a shuttle back to Cybertron, where Shockwave planned to have them deactivated. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}}

Stewing in a cell, Optimus blamed himself for their predicament, but he and the Autobots were soon rescued by [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]. Sandstorm and Optimus traveled through Cybertron's [[Old Slave Trails]], only to find themselves ambushed by [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]], who swiftly killed Sandstorm, and then the Decepticon was attacked by a [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]], which lunged at Prime. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Prime recovered to find himself in the care of a group of Autobot rebels including [[Hot Rod]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]. Though Optimus lashed out at [[Gnaw (G1)|Gnaw]] upon awakening, the other rebels quickly cleared up the misunderstanding, assuring Prime that the Sharkticon was their ally. They revealed to Optimus that Shockwave had been transmitting subliminal signals to increase Transformer aggression, readying them for war against an unseen foe. At this point, another rebel cell joined up with them with dire news: Shockwave had unleashed the [[Guardian robot|Omega Sentinels]] on Iacon! {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}

Optimus was able to rally Autobot factions from across Cybertron to the cause and launch an all-out attack on Shockwave's fortress. He headed the assault himself, but broke rank when he saw the image of Shockwave blasting Ultra Magnus upon one of the many monitor screens planted around the Decepticon's headquarters. Optimus charged in to confront Shockwave, beating down all opposition along the way. Coming upon Shockwave's throne room, Prime was greeted by Ultra Magnus, who pointed him towards a secret passage through which Shockwave had absconded. Leaving his wounded brother to rest, Optimus barged into Shockwave's secret chambers, only to be overpowered and have the Matrix ripped from his chest. With it, Shockwave was finally able to activate Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}} Stalling, Prime listened as Shockwave recounted the history of Cybertron, and eventually Ultra Magnus arrived, having recovered, to attack and defeat Shockwave. Prime and Grimlock helped him escape from the fortress as it crumbled to the ground. With Shockwave's defeat, the Autobots would now be able to start rebuilding Cybertron towards true peace... but Optimus remained troubled by Shockwave's motives; he recognized that Shockwave would not be urged to action by mere fancy. Optimus pondered what greater threat awaited Cybertron for Shockwave to so thoroughly plan for its arrival. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} The injuries Prime took in this conflict necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis. Both he and Ultra Magnus were tended to by Perceptor and Hoist as they recuperated. {{storylink|Generation 1 issue 0|Generation 1 #0}} Though Magnus recovered in due course, Optimus's systems had received a more severe shock due to the Matrix being forcefully removed from his frame. Thus, he needed additional time spent in recovery before he could reboot. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}

{{note|Due to Dreamwave's bankruptcy, its ongoing stories came to a halt. The following would have taken place in [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues|unpublished issues]].}}
Hot Rod came to visit Optimus while he was still off-line and recovering. {{storylink|Unreleased Dreamwave issues#Issue 11|Generation 1 #11}} Soon afterwards Optimus completed his recovery, and was ready to kick bumper! He faced off against the Quintessons and their Sharkticon enforcers. {{storylink|Unreleased Dreamwave issues#Issue 12|Generation 1 #12}}

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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[File:GIJoevsTFcobraprime.jpg|275px|thumb|G.1. Joe—the real universal hero!]]
In the early stages of the war, Optimus Prime was an archivist, watching the battles from afar and keeping records of them. This all changed when the [[Matrix of Leadership]] chose him to lead the Autobots in battle. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 2|The Art of War #2}} Shortly after he ascended to Primehood, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] tried to kill him, but failed. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}}

Several Autobots and Decepticons, including Optimus Prime, were reformatted into will-less war machines under the control of [[Cobra]]. During an initial attack on a human peace conference, Cobra's remote control of Optimus (whom they had nicknamed "[[HISS tank|HISS-14]]") mysteriously failed. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #1}} Later at Cobra's [[Cobra Island|island headquarters]] in the [[Caribbean Sea|Caribbean]], Cobra scientists pulled Optimus apart to find out what was impeding their commands. As this analysis took place, Optimus reverse hacked into Cobra computers until they shut him down in a panic. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} Despite this, Prime sent a viral message out to hundreds of email addresses that included the coordinates of Cobra's base. The message was intercepted by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] who teamed up with Wheeljack and Bumblebee. After Wheeljack broke the remote control over the Transformers, Prime went after [[Cobra Commander]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}} More than a bit frightened of a giant robot gunning for him, the human released Megatron, who was trapped in gun mode. Megatron transformed and fought Prime to a standstill until other Autobots came to back him up. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}}

Although he was weak and low on [[energon]], Prime made a last-ditch effort to save the day when he rammed through the wall of Megatron's energon-producing lab. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}} After a quick recharge, Optimus single-handedly smashed the Decepticons, pounded Megatron to the ground, and ripped his [[fusion cannon]] off his arm. Prime then teamed up with the Joes and used Megatron's cannon to shoot down the [[SPS Satellite]] that had gone rogue and was destroying the island.

With the battle over, Prime and the Autobots boarded a new ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' ship built by G.I. Joe and returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #6}}

[[File:GIJoevstfIIprime1930s.jpg|left|upright=1.55|thumb|Retro Convoy: TRANSFORM!!!]]
On a Cybertron dominated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the Decepticons, Optimus Prime and the Autobots took on the roles of resistance fighters. Cobra experimentation transported a contingent of Cobras and G.I. Joes to Cybertron and destabilized [[Teletran 3]], which led to the computer sending several Transformers to [[Earth]] across different time periods. When Optimus Prime saw Jazz get zapped by Teletran 3, he leapt to rescue his soldier, only to be transported away as well. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}} A team made up of Joes and Cobra agents were sent back and found Optimus Prime and the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] in 1930s-era Chicago, disguised as period cars and trucks. The Stunticons chased Prime and the Joes around the city until everything was wrapped up with bullets, a collapsed bridge and some dynamite. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}

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After the Transformers and humans were returned to present-day Cybertron and the Decepticons were vanquished by the recently arrived [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], Prime made an agreement with the Joes to destroy the technology that started the whole mess in order to protect Earth. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}

On Cybertron, Optimus Prime kicked back to do a little bit of paperwork and reminisce. With Shockwave defeated, Cybertron was enjoying a new era of peace. He was interrupted by Hot Rod, who reported that a group of "pesky humans with their peashooters" were giving an Autobot team on Earth a hard time. Prime suspected Cobra's involvement and counseled Hot Rod not to be so dismissive of the humans. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1|The Art of War #1}} When the team returned to Cybertron and mysteriously vanished in the [[Gladiator Zone]], Prime was prepared to go search for them, but was convinced by Hot Rod to stay behind and organize a peace ceremony. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 2|The Art of War #2}}

Later, at the peace celebration, Prime was watching a procession of Autobots when Decepticons attacked. Optimus ordered [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] into action but the huge Autobot was quickly overcome by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] and [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} Prime hopped into the fray, saved a [[Optimus Prime's rescuees|civilian]] from getting smushed by the falling Omega, rode [[Sixshot]] into Piranacon's face, smashed [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] into the ground, and carried a [[Optimus Prime's rescuees|wounded civilian]] out of danger.

[[File:Primevsserpentor.jpg|thumb|left|Serpent O.R. soon realized that "This I command!" doesn't work on Optimus Prime.]]
Menasor cut off Prime's escape and handed him the [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] trio, who confronted Prime with a hologram of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] The new Decepticon leader carried Megatron's memories and information downloaded from Soundwave, from which he learned of the Matrix of Leadership. Serpent O.R. offered Optimus a trade: hostages and peace if he handed over the Matrix. Optimus agreed.

In his stronghold, Serpent O.R. questioned Prime about his own worthiness to carry the Matrix, but Optimus broke free of his chains and aggressively ordered him to surrender. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}} A group of Decepticons broke in and nearly took Prime apart, but not before Serpent O.R. took the Matrix for himself and changed into the massive Serpentor Prime. The Matrix showed Serpentor Prime the error of his ways but as he was about to commit suicide Cobra Commander tripped a device and took over Serpentor Prime's body. Moments before he crushed Arcee, a severely damaged Optimus Prime threw Hawk toward the Matrix but warned the human not to touch the artifact. Hawk did so anyway and through a quasi-mystical transfer of power Serpentor Prime was vanquished.

Later repaired by a [[Paradron Medic|female nursebot]], Optimus went back to finishing his paperwork. A leader's job is never done. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

Sensing a new, yet old, danger to planet Earth, Prime elected to send himself to earth on an investigation, and gave Hot Rod a glare when the young Autobot accused his leader of taking an unnecessary risk to atone for the death of a [[Bumblebee (G1)|close friend]].

Optimus Prime landed in the Himalayan Mountains with G.I. Joes [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] and [[Hawk (G.I. Joe)|Hawk]]. As they searched the area, the trio was attacked by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] in his [[Pretender]] shell. Prime whacked him with his [[energon-axe]] and in return Bludgeon bearhugged him and coated him in metal-eating slime. Hawk, still carrying power from the Matrix, helped Prime break free. Optimus then shot his way into the hidden kingdom of [[Cobra-La]].

[[File:Optimus BlackHorizon2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]]
While they wandered through the tunnels, the Joes and Prime found cave paintings that described the last visit to Earth by the planet-eating god [[Unicron]]. They were attacked again by Bludgeon and Cobra-La minions, but were led away by a ragged [[Joe Colton]], prisoner of Cobra-La for the last 25 years. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} Bludgeon managed to find them again and during a second battle Prime tore open the Pretender's shell, revealing Bludgeon's robot form inside. Bludgeon tripped and dangled dangerously over a chasm, but rather than let Optimus Prime save him, Bludgeon forced Prime to drop him to his death laughing all the way down.

The Joes discovered a cavern where the people of Cobra-La were growing [[metal-eating spore]]s as a last defense against Unicron. Flint and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] took a load of the spores into space just as Unicron appeared in Earth orbit. Prime, Hawk and Colton headed deeper into Cobra-La to rescue [[Firewall]] and kick butt. Prime was tackled and pinned by a giant bug creature, but made a dramatic recovery and tossed the bug aside. He then took the machine-hating Cobra-La leader [[Golobulus]] to task with a single punch. Flint and Cosmos released the spores, which devoured Unicron from the inside and defeated the giant Transformer before he could harm [[Earth]].

With the threat of Unicron gone, Prime relaxed with [[Eject (G1)|Eject]] and Firewall by watching some reality TV, and sighed at the banality. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}

===Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic===
[[File:Wc prime.jpg|thumb|left|What is it with Primes and weak stomachs?]]
After their own [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] disappeared, [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] discovered an alternate version of Optimus Prime lying unconscious and barely alive in [[Autobase]] Earth. Though [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] did what he could, the mysterious Prime reactivated only long enough to utter a cryptic statement about the walls crumbling and the coming of chaos, then died. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}}

[[Unicron]] later explained that he sent the alternate Optimus Prime into their universe as a "calling card": a terrifying warning of his imminent arrival. This was probably to tell the uninitiated that Unicron is a jerk. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4}}
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===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
[[File:Optimus and Bumblebee-Transformed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9]]
Optimus Prime and his troops lay deactivated on the [[Fera Islands]] for three million years until [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] stumbled upon them one day in [[1939]]. {{storylink|The Line}} The Autobots were reactivated by a [[Sky Spy|repair drone]] and given new disguises, with Optimus Prime being reformatted into an unknown [[World War II]]-era human vehicle. He explained to [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] who they were, and learned that [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s Decepticons had been reactivated a year prior, and were currently wreaking havoc on [[Europe]] along with [[Cobra]]. While hesitant at first, Optimus Prime soon joined G.I. Joe in their mission to destroy Cobra and the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformed}} After commanding the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] to get the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] out of the way, Prime advanced across the Fera Islands, but met resistance in the form of [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. {{storylink|Trial by Fire}}

As the Autobots were having trouble with Rumble, Optimus Prime told them try to use his earthquakes to their advantage, which led to the end of the Decepticon. Prime subsequently ordered the Aerialbots to [[Superion (G1)|combine]] and save Grimlock and [[Roadblock (G.I. Joe)|Roadblock]] from falling off a cliff. {{storylink|Wolves}} As they got closer to the Cobra [[Terrordrome]], however, Prime started regretting getting the Autobots involved with the humans' war. He offered to carry G.I. Joe across the water separating them from the Terrordrome, but told them that Autobots only fight if they have no choice, and they had no reason to fight anymore. Moments later, he saw that Cobra were using innocent prisoners as human shields, and Duke added that anyone who Cobra ''didn't'' enslave, they murdered. Filled with righteous anger, Optimus Prime ordered his troops to roll out. {{storylink|Trenches}}

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Shortly after reaching the other shore and taking out [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], Prime witnessed the gigantic [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] bust out of the Terrordrome and attack everything around him. With Superion gone, Prime knew that there was only one way to stop this rampaging monster, and ordered his Autobots to evacuate the humans while he went looking for the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. He soon found that [[Snake-Eyes]] was in possession of the artifact, but was under attack from Megatron. Prime attacked Megatron, keeping him at bay while telling Snake-Eyes that destroying the Matrix would kill Bruticus. The ninja complied, only to learn that Optimus had left something out of the story: smashing the Matrix would kill ''all'' the Transformers, including Prime himself. Looking at the Autobot leader's body, the Joes knew that Prime had been aware of this, and had deemed it a necessary sacrifice to save the humans. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

Decades later, in 1986, Duke showed [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] and [[Spirit]] footage from the battle of the Fera Islands, including Optimus Prime's fight with Megatron. {{storylink|Targets of Opportunity}}

===''Lil' Jerry''===
Unamused by [[Lil' Jerry]]'s decision to wear the Joe fatigues to BotCon, Optimus stepped on the little guy. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 6|Lil' Jerry's Big BotCon Adventure}}

===''Mini Mayhem!''===
Optimus Prime was thrown a surprised party to celebrate his role in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. He was touched that so many of his super-hero friends had remembered the occasion.

In a celebration of the Transformers brand, Optimus Prime showed up as a representative for the "Generation 1" era of the franchise.

Later, Optimus showed a couple of humans that the Transformers were in the midst of doing something really interesting... they were eating a pie! {{storylink|Mini Mayhem!}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity}}
[[File:OrionridesSpringarm.jpg|thumb|I'm [[Batman]]!]]
Optimus Prime was originally known as Orion Pax, a police captain from [[Rodion]]. An encounter with a pre-[[Decepticon]] [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] would change the course of his life, teaching him that freedom was not just the right of all "civilised" beings, but of all ''sentient'' beings, and causing him to publicly reclaim the name "Autobot", previously used only at Cybertronians as a derogatory term, before the corrupt Senate.

After the rise of the Decepticons and the death of the merciless [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]], he became the Prime, and entered what would become a millions-of-years-long war of attrition with the Decepticons, which would lead to the death of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and the spreading of the Cybertronian civil war far beyond their homeworld in a push for resources. With the end of the war and the emptying of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to restart [[Vector Sigma]] and rebirth Cybertron, he found himself rejected by the returning civilian population, and - secretly gladly - abdicated his rank and returned to his original name of Orion Pax as he travelled through the galaxy.

Roughly two years later, however, [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|events]] would force him back into the Autobots. After killing [[Nova Prime]] he proudly retook the mantle of Prime, convinced by Rodimus that he had redeemed it, and euthanized Shockwave saving all of time and space. In the aftermath, he reassumed his role as leader of the Autobots.

===''Hearts of Steel''===
[[File:HeartsofSteel 1 Prime Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|"I keep telling you Bumblebee, the Dinobots will never accept you into their clique!"]]
The Autobots and the Decepticons came to [[Earth|a distant world]] in the grip of an ice age. Assuming [[alternate mode]]s based upon the [[Dinosaur (dinosaur)|dominant (though doomed) indigenous creatures]] of this planet, they continued their [[Ice Age Wars|ancient, unending war]]. However, the Autobots, with their energy levels dangerously low, withdrew from combat as the world grew colder. They sought refuge in a deep cavern and entered [[stasis lock]], awaiting the day when surface conditions changed to better suit their operation. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}} Optimus lay under the [[Mare Rurek Glacier]]. {{storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 1|Infestation 2: The Transformers #1}} Millions of years later, Bumblebee was awoken by the hammering of humans working on a rail line. He briefly considered awakening Optimus Prime, but thought better of it. After discovering the world had changed significantly, Ratchet thought there was no reason to awaken Prime. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}} When Bumblebee discovered the Decepticons were once again active on this world, Ratchet and Prowl agreed that the Autobots must intervene, but again decided out of rousing Optimus from his slumber. {{Storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2|Hearts of Steel #2}}

[[File:TFInfestation2.2 Optimus Prime vs Elder God.jpg|thumb|upright=1.45|Once again, Optimus steals Rodimus Prime's thunder.]]
When a new threat, the [[Elder God]]s, appeared, a group of Autobots acquired the help of [[Tobias Muldoon]] and [[Nikola Tesla]] to travel to the glacier and waken Prime. {{storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 1|Infestation 2: The Transformers #1}} Tesla's [[Tesla tower]] wasn't enough on its own, so [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailblazer]], and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] gave energy necessary to recharge Optimus Prime. Optimus awoke and revived the other Autobots with his [[energon]] reserves, before traveling to [[Port Cenotaph]], [[Nova Scotia]] where an Elder God had risen from the sea. Diving into the ocean, Optimus cleaved parts off the Elder God until it and its followers returned to the depths. Though Tobias asked if the creature was dead, Optimus wasn't sure, but promised the Autobots would be there to defend Earth if it ever returned. {{storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 2|Infestation 2: The Transformers #2}} {{storylink|Infestation 2 issue 1|Infestation 2 #1}}

The Autobots continued to guard humanity in secret for many years, until one day in the 21st century when Ratchet was captured by a human group known as [[Skylogic Systems]]. Upon investigating the organization, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee came into contact with the [[Lone Gunmen]], three humans who were also on Skylogic's tail for their role in creating a dangerous virus. Learning from them that Ratchet's DNA was part of the concoction, the Autobots joined forces with the humans and helped track down [[David Simmons]], the man responsible for releasing the virus. One interrogation later and they had the address to the Skylogic base, though Prime's size prevented him from easily infiltrating the building, so he left the rescue mission up to Bumblebee and the Gunmen. Once Ratchet was saved, the Autobots parted company with their new human friends in an attempt to lure away any Skylogic pursuers. {{storylink|The X-Files: Conspiracy: The Transformers}}
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===''Music Label''===
In the year 2007, the Autobots discovered that the Decepticon communications officer [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was attempting to control the minds of humans through hypnotic music broadcast through a series of tiny clones of himself. Optimus Prime upgraded his trailer with a huge pair of speakers, and proceeded to drive around, broadcasting a counter-frequency that undid the villain's brainwashing. {{storylink|Transformers Music Label}}

{{note|The [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|2007 Takara timeline]] placed the events of the ''[[Transformers Music Label|Music Label]]'' storyline in the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Generation 1 cartoon continuity]], but Optimus Prime's role in the story is therefore made impossible, as he was dead in that universe in 2007. However, given the way the timeline is unhelpfully laid out, it's not impossible that this adventure may take place not in the mainstream timeline, but in the branched-off parallel dimension of the ''[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Binaltech|Binaltech]]'' storyline, where Optimus did not die.}}

===''Lil Formers''===
Upon meeting an [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|alternate-universe version of himself]], Optimus remarked that his [[David Kaye|counterpart's voice]] was somewhat unsettling. {{storylink|Lil Formers}}

===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in manga===
Optimus foiled Megatron's attack on 21st century [[Tokyo]] after informing his old foe that wherever he would pop up, the Autobots would be there to thwart his evil intentions. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1}} Optimus and Bumblebee later intervened when [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] attacked [[Shinjuku Station]], using their bodies to shield nearby humans from the destruction the triple-changer brought about. They were unaware that Astrotrain's rampage was really a distraction staged to keep their attention away from Megatron's gathering of energon cubes nearby. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2}} Optimus continued to do battle against Astrotrain until Rodimus showed up to provide the Autobots with additional firepower. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 3}}

At a later time, Optimus Prime helped defend a power plant from a Decepticon attack, this time headed by Starscream and a mind-controlled [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]]. During the battle, Skyfire broke free of Starscream's control, and joined up with Optimus and company to repel the Decepticons. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 4}}

Megatron used some of the energon he had previously pilfered to transform himself into Galvatron, and would have killed Prime were it not for Ironhide's timely intervention. Following his defeat, Galvatron reverted back into Megatron. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 7}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' Bun Bun manga===
When the legendary [[Energon Cube]] was lost to the reaches of space, Optimus Prime led a small team of Autobots in pursuit of it. The giant energy source crashed on Earth in the Japanese town of [[Hoshinochō]], where it shattered into fragments that were scattered far and wide. Prime and the other Autobots set up a subterranean base below the Cube's impact crater and began their search for the shards, taking the forms of local vehicles to hide their activities. Despite their attempts at remaining unseen, glimpses of the Autobots only magnified the reputation the crash of the Cube (believed by humans to be a meteor) had given Hoshinochō: that of a hotbed of rumored alien and UFO activity, Japan's answer to [[United States of America|America]]'s Roswell. {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}}

The Autobots gained a human ally in their quest when they befriended Doctor [[Osamu Kihara]] of the Governmental Special Diplomatic Agency, who provided more assistance than they could have imagined when his son, [[Akira Kihara|Akira]], was discovered to be a "[[Booster]]", one of many legendary beings born with the ability to control and detect the energies of the Energon Cube. Alas, the Decepticons had followed Prime's Autobots to Earth, and [[Megatron (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Megatron]] sought the boy's powers for his own. To protect Optimus Prime and himself, Akira unleashed the full extent of his powers, driving Megatron back, but causing his body to burn out and disintegrate. Prime was wracked with guilt over what had occurred, and it would haunt him afterward. {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}}

Eleven years after their arrival on Earth, Prime and the Autobots made a new human ally in [[Wataru Hoshinoumi]] when he stumbled into the midst of a battle between Prime's team and [[Starscream (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Starscream]] and [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Ramjet]]. {{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} When Megatron joined the fight soon after, he held [[Bumblebee (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Bumblebee]] and Wataru hostage, daring Prime to make a move against him. Prime opened fire, but Megatron merely used the defeated Starscream for a shield, then turned his cannon on the younger duo. Prime unleashed his [[ion blaster]] and apparently deflected the blast with a shot of his own, saving Bumblebee and Wataru and prompting the Decepticons to retreat. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}}

Prime invited Wataru to visit the Autobots' subterranean base, and he gave the boy a personal tour as he carried the injured Bumblebee to the infirmary. Telling him the story of the Energon Cube and the Autobots' coming to Earth, Prime showed Wataru the large chunk of the cube that they had managed to recover. He then turned his attention to repairing Bumblebee's wounds, and as such, did not notice Wataru reaching out to touch the cube sliver. A bizarre energy discharge resulted that not only showed the Autobots images of [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Another Time & Place]], but also healed both Autobots' wounds. Prime dived at Wataru and hauled him away from the shard, returning things to normal, but leaving Prime with grave concerns over what the strange occurrence might mean. {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}}

When Starscream attacked a power plant with the aid of his brainwashed ally, [[Jetfire (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Skyfire]], Prime carried [[Grimlock (G1)#Henkei! Henkei! Bun Bun manga|Grimlock]] to the scene of the battle on the back of his truck mode. {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} During the conflict that followed, Prime's suspicions about Wataru were confirmed when the boy manifested a barrier to protect himself and Bumblebee and to help Skyfire overcome the influence of Starscream's mind-controlling helmet. Wataru was a Booster as well! {{storylink|Wataru's Power}} His past experiences naturally made Prime hesitant to put Wataru's power to use, but Osamu Kihara made the point that Wataru's power was invaluable for hunting down shards of the Energon Cube. Prime and Wataru headed out to investigate a local relic that Kihara suspected was a cube shard, and Wataru's powers soon confirmed the doctor's findings. Just as Prime was about to report back to Kihara, however, Megatron struck, demanding that Prime hand over both the shard and Wataru. Prime attempted to feign ignorance of Wataru's powers, but Megatron ignored his bluff and encouraged him to hand the boy over, lest he cost ''another'' Booster their life. Driven into a rage by the stinging barb, Prime violently attacked Megatron with his energon-axe, but as the duel raged, Megatron continued to question Prime's beliefs and his attitude. Unable to deny Megatron's accusation that he had hoped to use Wataru's power to defeat him, Prime lost his concentration and was taken down by the Decepticon leader. Despite what he had learned about a previous Booster dying, Wataru stayed true to Optimus and activated his powers, healing the Autobot's wounds and powering up his energon-axe into a huge sword. Summoning all his energy, Prime took down Megatron with one almighty slash, then collapsed into [[stasis lock]]. {{storylink|Optimus Prime's Secret}}

Prime was brought back to the Autobot base for treatment, but the Decepticons exploited the Autobots' lack of manpower and struck again before Prime recovered. With his men taking a pummeling, the unconscious Prime had a vision of Akira, who spurred him on to awaken and rejoin the battle. With another power boost from Wataru, Prime unleashed a super-charged shot from his ion blaster that took down the fleeing Decepticons. {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei! Transformers -Visualize-''===
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===''Alternity''===
[[File:Alternity convoy boxart.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|This might take some getting used to. Hand me the instructions again!]]
In 2007, the Optimus Prime of [[universal stream]] [[Primax 109.0 Beta]] encountered a mysterious messenger from another world: [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|another incarnation of himself]] from [[Primax 903.0 Beta|a parallel dimension]] who left him with a warning. Two years hence, Megatron would bring the terrifying super-dimensional lifeform known as the "Beast of Time", the [[Hytherion]], into their dimension to destroy Earth. The only thing that could battle the Hytherion was the power of the super-evolved multi-dimensional race of Cybertronians known as the [[Alternity]]. Prime agreed that when the danger appeared, he would join the Alternity in the fight.

Sure enough, in 2009, when the Hytherion's colossal claw-marks appeared on planets throughout the solar system, Prime's other-dimensional incarnation returned, bringing with him a "Vibrant Red" Vector 109 [[auto-avatar]] with which Prime fused. In that instant, he was reborn as part of the Alternity, a manifold being who encompassed all the different incarnations of Optimus Prime through the multiverse at once. Prime reached his hands heavenward and peeled back the layers of reality, exposing the gargantuan fanged maw of the Hytherion looming above the Autobots. {{storylink|From Here to Alternity}}

Optimus battled alongside the Alternity to fend off the beast, when unexpectedly, [[Megatron (G1)#Alternity|Megatron]] overwrote the beast's higher functions with his own. At first, it seemed that the Hytherion had been killed, but a newly empowered Megatron (in two bodies) appeared and declared that, now possessing a power that rivaled the Alternity's, he challenged his opponents to take him on or see the multiverse itself burn. {{storylink|To Mega Therion}}

As battles between numerous different Primes and Megatrons erupted quite literally all across time and space, another member of the [[Convoy Aggregate]] was later seen battling [[Starscream (G1)#Alternity|Starscream]], who had been empowered by Megatron to serve as leader of his [[Questor]]s. This Prime was so surprised by Starscream's uncharacteristic sports car alternate mode that he left himself open for a blast from Starscream's Retroactive Nullifer cannon, which erased him from the timestream. As he faded out of existence, Prime responded to Starscream's taunts about the death of the Alternity by telling him that they were already well aware of their prophesied end and were well prepared. {{storylink|Foreshadows}}

Optimus was providing cover-fire for a cross-universal battle when he suddenly seized up. Though he rebooted momentarily, he had terrible news for his Protector allies: using the power of the lower-dimensional [[Planicron]]s, Megatron had succeeded in sundering the Alternity's aggregate! Optimus urged his subordinates to not lose hope however, reassuring them that events were still unfolding within the parameters they had foretold. Sure enough, the battle swayed back in the Autobots' favor when [[Thundercracker (G1)#Alternity|Thundercracker]], disgusted by Megatron's reckless use of their power, freed the Planicrons and robbed Megatron of his most powerful weapon. Optimus then tasked Elita Seven, Nemesis Prime, and Bumblebee to track down the [[Critias Gate|doorway]] that would allow the Planicrons to ascend to the higher-dimensions, putting them on the path to supersede the Alternity as multiversal protectors. While they attended to this task, the rest of the now-former Alternity busied themselves by destroying Megatron's auto-avatars, weakening the villain and disallowing him from interfering further with the Planicrons' destiny.

After this had all come to pass, the Autobots all returned to their proper place in the multiverse. {{storylink|Alternation}}

{{note|Alternity beings are both individuals and a collective of separate entities. More fiction about Optimus Prime's Alternity collective can be found [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|here]].}}

===''Robot Heroes'' comic===
[[File:IDW I am Optimus Prime battle.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|Adorobots VS. Decepticutes.]]
Optimus Prime was given the Matrix by [[Primus]] himself, and used to be friends with Megatron. Prowl is his closest friend and Ratchet is his oldest. Searching for Energon, the Autobots landed on Earth, but were followed by the Decepticons. With the help of their human allies, they bested their foes, and knowing they would return, decided to stay and wait to defend the planet once more. Optimus Prime was proud to be an Autobot. {{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}
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===''Universe'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Ron Hayden]] (English)}}
[[File:Actionblast1matrix.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Anyone with a history of seizures should leave the room now.]]
Optimus Prime narrated the events of what happened before the Ark crashed on Earth. He became the new leader of a long line of Autobot leaders via the discovery of the Matrix. On their quest for more Energon, the Autobots were chased by Decepticons to the planet known as Earth and crashed on it. When they emerged from the Ark, Optimus Prime scanned his truck altmode, stating that the war would not end on Earth. {{Storylink|Action Blast 1}}

[[File:FfE Optimus Prime Cyclonus.JPG|thumb|upright=1.4|Don't get distracted by your own fist Cyclonus! Do you WANT to lose your face?]]
Both Optimus Prime and Bumblebee raced down a street in an unknown desert while having an argument about Energon. He ordered Bumblebee to scan the surroundings to find the location where the Decepticons were hiding, and to be careful for possible scouts. When Bumblebee noted what the Decepticons were doing, Prime speculated that they might be planning to convert the energy into Energon, and ordered Bumblebee to create a diversion. While Bumblebee and Cyclonus fought, Prime made a surprise attack and took out Cyclonus with his Ion-axe, before turning his attention to Megatron. When both Decepticons fled, Prime told Bumblebee they'd done a good job (in front of a burning Gas station), and both Autobots got back on the move. {{storylink|Fight for Energon}}
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===''United''===
Millions of years ago, Megatron thought Optimus Prime to be forever vanquished. He was proven wrong when the Autobot leader rushed into battle against the Decepticons in a surprise attack. In the ages that followed, Megatron and Optimus would battle time and again, often upgrading themselves into new bodies. {{storylink|A New Battle!}}

At some point, [[Darkside Optimus Prime (United)|Darkside Optimus Prime]] was born out of the darkness in Optimus Prime's mind. {{storylink|Darkside Optimus Prime (United)|''United'' Darkside Optimus Prime toy bio}}

After the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s and [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]s successfully retrieved a cure for a deadly nano-virus from the planet [[Nebulos|Nebulon]], Optimus Prime commended them for their heroic efforts in a ceremony. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}

In response to attacks by Decepticons pretending to be Autobots, Optimus Prime took on a black color scheme to infiltrate the Decepticons. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#UnitedBlack|''United'' Black Optimus Prime toy bio}}

===''Unit:E'' comic===
Upon approaching the planet [[Earth]], the artificial intelligence [[Synergy]] presented footage of the Autobots to her crew-mate, the young [[Microman|Acroyear]], so that he could learn about his potential allies and enemies on the alien world. Optimus Prime could be seen ordering Bumblebee onward on one of Synergy's view-screens. {{storylink|Unit:E (issue)|Unit:E}}

===''BeCool'' shorts===
{{voiceactor|[[Kōichi Toshima]] (Japanese)}}
'''Trailer''' (トレーラー ''Torērā'') was often sleepy, but was the strongest of the BeCools. He could carry stuff in his trailer. {{storylink|The Self-Introduction Chapter}} When Trailer came across a traffic jam, he crashed into the BeCools holding him up, forcing them to transform into robot mode and realize they could just walk past the jam. {{storylink|The Story of the Surprising and Big Traffic Jam!}} When the same bunch of BeCools were stuck before a hole, Trailer selflessly used his body to act as a bridge for the other BeCools. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Yellow Sports Car]] was so inspired by his heroism that he offered to fill the hole so that Trailer could pass through. Trailer did so and sped away, leaving Yellow Sports Car in the hole. {{storylink|The Story of Mister Trailer's Big Success!}}

In the forest, Trailer observed the lost [[Powerglide (G1)|Red Jet]] and Yellow Sports Car. He wondered why Red Jet didn't just fly out. {{storylink|The Story of the Lost Plane!}} Trailer later played in the ''Quiz! BeCool'' show with [[Megatron (G1)|Tank Lorry]] on his team. The two's answer fumbling and arguments led them to lose the game. Another BeCool, '''Garbage Truck''' (清掃車 ''Seisōsha''), was part of one question. {{storylink|The Story of Quiz! BeCool}} While Yellow Sports Car was explaining BeCool marks to [[you]], Trailer was asleep in his Trailer Base, appropriately displaying his "Zzz..." BeCool mark. {{storylink|The Story of What Do I Know About the BeCool Mark?}}

Garbage Truck was doing his job when he accidentally left a banana peel on the road. This had catastrophic consequences, with Yellow Sports Car slipping on it and causing a traffic accident. {{storylink|The Story of Protecting the Signal!}}

Trailer took up a job with the fire brigade, hoping to earn some work experience. When they spotted Yellow Sports Car screaming for help on a burning building, they rescued him, only for the whole thing to be revealed as part of the filming of a movie. Garbage Truck witnessed the whole thing. {{storylink|The Story of the Fire Brigade Dispatch!}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
Before his death, Alpha Trion bequeathed unto Optimus Prime the Matrix of Leadership. {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}}

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Optimus became the leader of the Autobots for a time, then disappeared, leaving his people to be ruled tyrannically by Megatron.{{storylink|Targetmasters (issue)|Targetmasters}} Megatron never stopped seeking out his old foe, rewarding any of his troops that provided him with information that could lead to Optimus's whereabouts. {{storylink|The Golden Boys}} As for the Autobots, they were uncertain exactly as to why Optimus had disappeared; some believed Optimus had simply abandoned his troops, while other believed he was fulfilling some greater purpose and would return to them in their hour of need. Ultimately, it was [[Snake-Eyes]] and [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] who found the Autobot leader, lost in the void between dimensions. {{storylink|Form Follows Function}} There, the three of them became ensnared by the [[Quintesson]]s. They escaped the extra-dimensional entities' mind-probe and made their way back to normal space. En route, Optimus learned from Duke that Bumblebee had traveled to Earth and met his demise there. His human companions went off to help their friends on Cybertron, while Optimus headed for [[T.H.E. P.I.T.]] on Earth, eviscerating numerous [[Coltonbolt]] satellites as he entered the atmosphere. {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}}

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Within G.I. Joe's headquarters, Optimus found [[Doctor Venom]] controlling a robotic suit made out of the remains of both Bumblebee and Soundwave. The battle between him and the Joes spilled out into the open and into another battle, where Decepticobra was attacking the United Nations. As more factions joined the brawl, Optimus yanked Bumblebee's components free from Soundwave's body and took to the skies, back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Expelled from the Garden}} There, he was able to reunite Bumblebee's body with his head. {{storylink|Headmasters (issue)|Headmasters}}

Megatron came upon Optimus and challenged his old foe to a duel. Optimus managed to gain the upper hand, but hesitated to deliver the killing blow when he discovered that Megatron had married the Matrix to his spark, corrupting it. Several Decepticons then swarmed Optimus, allowing Megatron to blast a hole through his chest. Dead and defeated, Optimus plummeted down into the bowels of Cybertron. {{storylink|Pax Megatronus}} Rodimus and Duke travelled far beneath Cybertron, where they discovered Ultra Magnus- the Autobot god of death -carrying Optimus's body away. {{storylink|Earth: R.I.P.}}

On another plane of existence, Optimus travelled the path to the Matrix, guided by the voice of his old mentor Alpha Trion. The path led him to Grimlock, who had also been killed by Megatron; Prime rescued Grimlock from Kremzeek, the demonic eater of souls. At the gateway to the great beyond, they encountered Bludgeon, who announced that only those who bore the "key to Vector Stigmata" may pass through. Prime realized that the wounds on his body form the key, but the angel insisted that these would grant Prime access. Prime took Grimlock's sword and bestowed the key on Grimlock, allowing the former Autobot King to ascend into the Matrix while Prime stayed behind. {{storylink|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe issue 12|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #12}}

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Scarlett later used the Brainwave Scanner to contact Optimus's spirit and guide him back to the mortal realm. In the physical world, Ultra Magnus challenged Megatron to a duel on a Dyson sphere surrounding the sun. The Autobot god had not ferried Optimus to the afterlife - he had merely repaired Optimus's body by taking it into himself. During the climatic duel, he allowed Optimus to burst free from within his armor. The reborn Optimus punched Megatron into the sun, then turned his attention to reclaiming the stolen Matrix from the Decepticons. After [[Atlas]] defeated the maddened Primus, Optimus healed Snake-Eyes' injuries. Optimus then turned his attention to returning Primus/Cybertron to its regular orbit. As the planet left the solar system, he departed aboard the ''[[Ark II|Ark 2]]'' alongside a crew of Joes and Autobots, in the hopes of contacting the Makers. {{storylink|The War Never Ends}}

===''Transformers: All Spark''===
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===''Q-Robo Transformer''===
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===''Transformers GT: Mission GT-R''===
In a world where the Transformers' war settled into a series of friendly competitive races known as the [[Transformers GT]], Optimus Prime became the [[GT Transformer]] known as '''GT-R Prime'''. As a racer he was known for his serious but sometimes hot-blooded personality and his skillful use of the [[Impact Wrench Gun]], though he maintained an honorable policy never to fire directly at an opposing racer's body. Like other racers, GT-R Prime put a limit on his own strength by separating his Matrix into a [[GT Sister]], creating his partner [[Misaki]].

====Comic====
GT-R Prime was racing against [[Star Saber (Victory)|GT-R Saber]] and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|GT-R Maximus]] when they were rudely interrupted by [[Megatron (G1)|GT-R Megatron]], a ruthless racer out to prove his worth by defeating all others. A fight broke out, but Prime interrupted it and convinced Megatron that they all shared the same need for speed, persuading him to settle things with a race instead. {{storylink|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R (comic)|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R}}

====Story pages====
Though Optimus was a master marksman, he had a personal policy against shooting directly at his opponents' bodies during his races. In one such race, he allowed his rival to take the lead so that he could use his favorite weapon, the [[Impact Wrench Gun]], to blast the road beneath the other racer's feet, causing him to lose his balance. {{storylink|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R (story page)|Transform in a gust!}} When GT-R Megatron burst onto the scene, roaring that all previous races had failed to "ignite his warrior's spark," Optimus readied to give him the race of a lifetime. {{storylink|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R (story page)|GT-R Megatron Attacks!}} Like other racers, GT-R Prime attended photo shoots alongside Misaki in order to promote coexistence between humans and Transformers. {{storylink|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R (story page)|The Work of the GT Sister Race Queens?}} When a reincarnated [[Unicron]] attacked the Transformers GT finals and absorbed the huge [[energon]] pool saved up for the final prize, Prime restored his true power by using the "Matrix In" process to recombine with Misaki. Together with the other powered up racers, he fought and defeated Unicron, saving the Earth. {{storylink|Transformers GT: Mission GT-R (story page)|The True TFGT}}

===''Construct-Bots'' cartoon===
Optimus Prime came upon [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] attacking [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], and so rear-ended the [[Decepticon]]. The impact caused Megatron's parts to come off his chassis. Optimus claimed these components for himself. {{storylink|Toys & App TV Commercial}}

Optimus and Bumblebee snuck into the Decepticons' base, and found their enemies upgrading themselves with [[Autobot]] parts. The pair took offense to this, and Bumblebee set about sabotaging the process. Megatron wound up tripping on some gumballs thanks to the Autobot's mucking about, and Optimus congratulated his fellow Autobot on a prank well done! {{storylink|Intro!}}

Optimus later helped Bumblebee put his parts back on his bare chassis. During the dress-up, Bumblebee managed to accidentally swallow his Autobot badge. Fortunately, Bumblebee managed to soon cough it back out. Unfortunately, Bumblebee then proceeded to sing out of tune, annoying Optimus. {{storylink|Bumblebee Speaks!}}

On another occasion, Optimus got a little carried away with strapping new parts onto Bumblebee. The final piece he attached to the yellow 'bot was a rocket, which activated and sent Bumblebee wheeling through the air. Bumblebee eventually came crashing back down, and Optimus slowly backed away out of embarrassment. {{storylink|Strength!}}

===''Cloud''===
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At one time, Optimus Prime worked alongside Megatron, bringing order throughout dimensions with the power of [[SARA]]. But Megatron was ambitious, and sought to use SARA's power for his own ends. Optimus saved Metropolis from Megatron's rebellion, and the Autobots banished Megatron from [[Metropolis]]. Optimus Prime remained behind as the leader of the [[Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Fate}} As head of the space-time guardians residing in [[Cloud World]]'s Metropolis, he was a valiant and powerful leader who commanded the utmost respect from his subordinates. Optimus Prime stood for peace and freedom for all sentient beings in all of time and space. His sense of responsibility in this regard was a bit too great for his own good, as it often left him worrying about things outside of his control.

His weapon of choice was a powerful [[ion blaster]] that transformed into a back-mounted energy unit used to control his movement between dimensions.

Optimus was checking up on the Autobots' ongoing energy collecting campaign when Wheeljack informed him that a disturbance in [[Duel on the Asteroid|Sector 33HM]] of space-time would eventually cause major problems in its time-stream. Optimus assigned the investigation of this disturbance to Bumblebee, then noted that [[Hot Rod]]imus had not completed his latest report, communications with the young Autobo having been lost while he was on his own mission. With a brief inspirational speech, he urged his subordinates to redouble their efforts in maintaining harmony throughout reality. Little did Optimus suspect that in his own universe, Megatron was planning a coup against the Autobots... {{storylink|Uprising (Cloud)|Uprising}}

The Decepticons' initial strike came abruptly and brutally, devastating entire districts of Metropolis. Optimus was meeting with Hot Rodimus as this took place, and was nearly overcome with grief when Ratchet informed him of the carnage the Decepticons had wrought. Steeling himself, Optimus coordinated the city's defenses, ordering his troops to be dispatched where they were most needed to repel the invasion. Upon spotting an old enemy on one of the nearby monitors, Optimus geared up to go in the field himself. Arming himself with his favorite pistol, Optimus resolved to take down Megatron. {{storylink|Raid}}

Optimus confronted his archenemy on the battlefield, though he had to knock Starscream aside to get to him first. Due to a nearby explosion that rocked the battlefield, Optimus nearly lost both his stance and his head when Megatron took advantage of the opening. But Optimus's quick reflexes allowed him to shift to vehicle mode and back, dodging Megatron's attack and striking back in the process. As the battle raged on, both combatants found themselves evenly matched. Then Ratchet contacted Optimus with dire news; the Decepticons had managed to abduct SARA! {{storylink|Fate}}

In shock over the news, Optimus could do little more than scream in agony as Megatron and Starscream made their escape. After regaining his senses, the Autobot leader resumed contact with Ratchet, relaying the order that all Autobots were to return to base. There, Optimus tried his best to calm his panicking subordinates. Though he assured them that power reserves would allow their civilization to continue functioning for some time, they remained jittery. Optimus then declared that he would spearhead a counter-invasion of the Underground. Still, the Autobots remained uncertain, with [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] pointing out that the Underground was not only vast and dangerous, but mostly unmapped as well. Taking full responsibility for SARA's abduction onto himself, Optimus suggested that he venture to the Underground alone and track SARA's energy signature. Hot Rodimus, however, was unwilling to allow his leader to take such a dangerous course of action, and volunteered to join him. The rest of the Autobots, finding their courage at last, followed suit. Moved by their devotion, Optimus accepted. He also thanked Hot Rodimus for calling out his foolishness, as Optimus now recognized that he would have made an even greater mistake by diving headlong into a doomed venture. Brawn approached Optimus next, insisting he join the group. Optimus at first refused, as Brawn had gotten badly injured during the invasion, but was convinced by the minibot's resolve. Once they were ready, Optimus issued the order to his Autobots... ROLL OUT! {{storylink|Resolve}}

The Autobots tracked SARA's energy signature to a decrepit old building. While a team headed by [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] stormed the building's main floor as a distraction, Optimus, Hot Rodimus and Brawl infiltrated its basement covertly. Coming upon the Decepticons' inner sanctum, they found Megatron having already wired SARA into his own body! Horrified by this development, Optimus demanded to know what Megatron was planning to do. The true extent of Megatron's megalomania was then revealed; the Decepticon leader planned to use SARA's energy to become ruler of all space-time, even if it meant destroying his home dimension in the process. Both Hot Rodimus and Brawn were knocked aside by Megatron in short order, leaving Optimus with no back-up and few options. Deciding he needed to take down Megatron, even at the cost of his own life, Optimus transformed to vehicle mode and rammed the Decepticon. He then lost consciousness...

Optimus awakened to the sound of [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]'s voice. Taking in his surroundings, he noted that he was now in an organic forest, surrounded by unfamiliar Cybertronians. It soon dawned on him that he had been transported to the dimension where Megatron had intended to begin his conquest: the [[OG World]]. The 'bots surrounding him were the local counterparts to his own Autobots, including his own doppelgänger! The locals informed him that they had found him thanks to the help of his "companion," a small robotic girl. Before Optimus could puzzle out who this humanoid was, the group came under attack by the local Megatron. Though badly injured, "Cloud Optimus Prime" had the strength to fight alongside "G1 Optimus Prime" against the Decepticons, and protect the girl that had brought the Autobots to him. During the fight, blasts from both Primes' rifles collided with a blast from Megatron's fusion cannon, knocking all of the combatants down. Cloud Optimus Prime ensured that the girl was safe before before his attention was drawn to the horizon by a familiar voice. It was "Cloud Megatron," who had also survived his inter-dimensional trip, and had come to continue his fight against his nemesis. {{storylink|Leap}}

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===''Transformers × Evangelion''===
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===''Angry Birds'' comic===
[[File:ABTF1 Optimus+HeatwavevsShockwave.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.5]]
Optimus and his Autobots were aboard the Ark, on the run from the Decepticons. With him, Optimus had what Megatron was forever seeking; the [[AllSpark]]! With the ship taking heavy damage from the Autobots' pursuers, Optimus ordered Jazz to take them into an emergency quantum jump. Jazz informed Prime that the jump would take longer to initiate than the time the Decepticons would need to board their vessel. As such, Optimus entrusted the AllSpark to Bumblebee while he and the rest of the bridge crew steeled themselves to hold off their enemies. Thanks to Starscream breaking rank in the Decepticons' formation, Optimus was able to hold back Megatron, and with [[Heatwave (G1)|Heatwave]]'s help, repel them from the ship just as it initiated the quantum jump. However, at that moment the AllSpark tumbled off-ship, falling into the quantum tunnel and seemingly being lost for good... {{storylink|Angry Birds Transformers issue 1|Angry Birds Transformers #1}}

Optimus led the search for the AllSpark through space, but he and his troops were unable to locate the artifact. Though the search seemed hopeless, Optimus assured the others that they would not give up until Cybertron's last hope for survival was found... At that moment, a [[Minion Pig|strange green pig]] crashed through one of the ship's windows, with the AllSpark in tow. Optimus stared in bewilderment at the strange creature as it asked for a ride back [[Piggy Island|home]]. {{storylink|Hard Boiled}}

===''Transformers Legends'' comic===
A truck at [[Transformers Celebration 2014]] opened its trailer to reveal a large, speaking bust of Optimus Prime, much to [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]'s nostalgic pleasure. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Transformers Celebration 2014|Bonus Chapter: Transformers Celebration 2014}} Another statue of Prime appeared at a ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' event at the Decks Tokyo Beach shopping center. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Deckss x Q-Transformers Collaboration Event Report|Bonus Chapter: Deckss x Q-Transformers Collaboration Event Report}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
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[[Eject (G1)|Eject]] lamented that all the great and famous Cybertronians, including Optimus Prime, were long gone by the time Cybertron was controlled by the [[Builder Assembly]]. {{storylink|Broken Windshields}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Primax 092.0 Beta]], Optimus Prime was a student of [[Hyperdrive (Turbomaster)|Hyperdrive]] at the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] academy before the Great War. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/7/2015}}

Some time later, Optimus, now called Star Convoy, and [[Hot Rod|Fire Rodimus]] formed Supernova Convoy to vanquish [[Dark Nova|Star Giant]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Ultra Megatron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 15/8/2015}}

Later on, Optimus, now called Optimus again, defeated the returned [[Nucleon (substance)|nucleon]]-empowered Megatron, subsequently retiring from leader of the Autobots and passing on the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to Hyperdrive. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/7/2015}}

===General Optimus===
[[File:GeneralOptimusPrime-CMW.jpg|thumb|right|upright=2.0|"You magnificent bastard, ''I read [[Towards Peace|YOUR BOOK!]]''"]]

General Optimus Prime hailed from [[Primax 096.0 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 6/9/2015}} During the [[Great War (G1)|third Cybertronian war]], {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Timelines|General Optimus Prime profile card}} he fought on Earth against [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB|Megatron]]: in the Battle of [[Sherman Dam]], the two fought directly but the battle would have gone against the Autobots if not for the arrival of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 6/9/2015}} In the latter stages of the war, he upgraded himself with heavier armor and weaponry in order to match Megatron's flight and combination upgrade.

At the final battle against the [[Decepticon Empire|Decepticon Star Empire]] on [[Mirtonia]], Prime and his [[Firestormer|Firestormer Squadron]] emerged victorious, though the battle concluded with an experimental energon refinery exploding and blasting the General and [[Hound (G1)|Sergeant Hound]] out of their own reality into [[Nexus 208.0 Epsilon]].

In [[Axiom Nexus]], General Optimus Prime found himself inducted into the [[Convoy (group)|Convoy]], a group of Optimus Primes and their kin dedicated to safeguarding the [[multiverse]]. While the other Convoy members tended to stay in the upper reaches of Axiom Nexus, the General was able to use his unusual appearance for an Optimus Prime to venture in the Offworlder zones without suspicion, a great help to [[Axiom Nexus Security Administration|Offworlder Zone Security Administration]] Commander [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]]. The General was also assisted in his new mission by his longtime scout, Sergeant Hound. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Timelines|General Optimus Prime profile card}} {{storylink|Hound (G1)#Timelines|Sgt. Hound profile card}}

When Sergeant Hound apprehended a criminal going by the name "[[Megatron (Movie)|C-81]]", rumors that the prisoner was in reality a "Megatron" that had gotten past the TransTechs' security procedures piqued General Optimus Prime's interest. Though Cheetor assured him that it was impossible for a "Megatron" to have been allowed in Axiom Nexus, the General's concerns did not fade. More pressing concerns took over, however, when the entirety of Axiom Nexus, and nearly all of the TransTechs suffered a sudden shutdown due to a surge in the Global Net. General Optimus Prime tasked [[Bruticus (RID)|Bruticus]] with keeping guard over the prison while he and Hound went to investigate the source of the surge, the planet's core.

When Optimus and Hound eventually made their way there, they found that C-81 and his gang of criminals had escaped prison and were combating the [[Waruder]] soldiers responsible for the planetary shutdown. Optimus mistakenly assumed that C-81 and his goons were there on purpose, and joined them in fending off the invaders. They were soon joined by [[Burn Out]] and [[Lift-Ticket (Diaclone)|Lift-Ticket]], who informed the Cybertronians that they had stumbled across the Waruders' main hive. Lift-Ticket explained the Waruders could be repelled if he managed to get a sample of the hive's venom. Optimus was willing to go along with Lift-Ticket's dangerous plan, despite C-81's skepticism. However, the battle came to an end when C-81 managed to grab a hold of the Waruders' [[Beet-Chit|leader]], and forced the bug into peaceful negotiations. Optimus agreed to allow the Waruders to migrate to another Cybertron via C-81's illegal interuniversal gate, in exchange for a venom sample that would be used to create an anti-toxin to revive the TransTech. The General nonetheless impounded C-81's gate afterwards, though he did let the criminals "slip away" as thanks for their part in thwarting the Waruder invasion.

General Optimus Prime later attended a meeting of the Convoy held by [[Starscream (TransTech)|Starscream]]. There, he assured the others present that he had been mistaken about the rumored Megatron's identity. Starscream was convinced, but the rest of the Convoy were savvy to the truth. The other Optimuses supported General Optimus Prime's decision, stating that if C-81 had earned the General's trust, that was good enough for the rest of them. Optimus was later seen hanging out with [[Spy-Eye (Diaclone)|Spy-Eye]] on his off-time. {{storylink|Cybertron's Most Wanted}}

General Optimus Prime led the Convoy in a raid on [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]]'s old laboratory, which had more recently been appropriated by [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]]. Though the terrorists were gone, the Convoy recovered the long-lost sparks of [[Blackarachnia (TransTech)|Blackarachnia]], [[Nightscream (TransTech)|Nightscream]], and [[Immorticon (TransTech)|Immorticon]]. {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2/12/2015}}

[[Hawk (G.I. Joe)|General Hawk]] stated in an interview that his typical transportation in Axiom Nexus was his Convoy colleagues. As the seats of General Optimus Prime's vehicle mode were manufactured at the same location as the [[VAMP]]s of his universe, Hawk was able to find a degree of familiarity in the strange world of Axiom Nexus. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News, 1/5/2016}}

===e-HOBBY comics===
Optimus was leading his troops against a Decepticon assault when the dimensional intruder [[Grand Scourge]] dropped in via a rip in space-time. Optimus was taken aback by the new arrival's resemblance to himself, and could do little more than stare in bafflement as Grand Scourge forcefully combined with four of the Stunticons while Motormaster fled in terror. While Superion attempted to deal with the now-enhanced Grand Scourge, a [[SARA|disembodied voice]] informed Prime that Grand Scourge was a fiend who hunted down Matrix-bearers throughout the multiverse. Although Optimus had difficulty wrapping his head around the whole scenario, he vowed not to go down without a fight. {{storylink|Decepticon Dark Commander Grand Scourge}}

===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
In one Universe, Optimus led his Autobots against Megatron's Decepticons until the Cybertronian civil war led to the creation of the monstrous combiner [[Thunder Mayhem]]. Thunder Mayhem turned on his masters, ultimately leading to him rampaging across Cybertron. {{storylink|History}}

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===''Combiner Wars'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Jon Bailey]] (English)}}
Coming to the dire realization that the war against the Decepticons had become a never-ending arms race, Optimus Prime challenged Megatron to single-combat, with their troops acting as witnesses to their terrible and final clash. The battle between both faction leaders ended with Megatron beaten down and goading Optimus into delivering the kill shot...

Optimus later found himself a wanderer, no longer leader of the Autobot forces. While traveling through Cybertron's barren wastes, he reminisced on his pivotal duel against his archenemy. {{storylink|Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime}}

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===''The Power of the Titan Masters''===
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==Commercial appearances==
Optimus Prime has appeared in more [[Commercial|television commercials]] than any other Transformer... just as with everything else. He has been voiced by [[Peter Cullen]] in every animation segment in which he's had a speaking role. The commercials that had original footage of Optimus Prime include the following:

[[File:Toycommercial-firstPrime.jpg|thumb|My wheels don't disappear!]]
*Optimus Prime arrived in the midst of a desert battle as the Decepticons attacked a power plant on Earth, driving to back up his troops in defending it. He struck a rather iconic pose as he transformed and fired. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#The Transformers #1|''The Transformers'' #1}}
{{note|This first commercial used nonfinal versions of the characters' [[character model]]s; Optimus Prime, for example, still had wheels on his legs.}}
*Optimus was later seen charging into battle alongside Prowl, Jazz, and Sideswipe. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Optimus Prime and Megatron|Optimus Prime and Megatron commercial}}
*During a battle against Megatron, Optimus summoned [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], and [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] to his side. Megatron responded by calling down [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Thrust and Dirge|Autobot cars plus Thrust and Dirge commercial}}
*Optimus confronted Astrotrain on a desert battlefield, but the Triple-Changer escaped under fire from other Autobots. Shortly afterward, Prime used Perceptor's microscope mode to examine a fragment of Decepticon battle armor. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Triple Changers and Perceptor|Triple Changers and Perceptor commercial}}
*Optimus Prime was fighting against [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] when Kup, Hot Rod, and Blurr came to his aid. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Cyclonus, Scourge, Rodimus Prime|Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Cyclonus, Scourge, and Rodimus Prime commercial}}
[[File:Toycommercial-PowermasterOptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|An integral part of Powermaster Prime's transformation is Joyride shooting lightning bolts through his pointed finger.]]
*Prime was said to be off-planet when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] led an assault on the Autobots' launch site. Undeterred, Ultra Magnus led a counter-attack in his leader's absence. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Ultra Magnus|Ultra Magnus commercial}}
*On the rocky plains where practically every Transformer battle ever seems to happen, Prime arrived in his Powermaster body to back up three of his troops against [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]]. He combined with [[Hi-Q]] and transformed, attacking with his trailer's battle station mode. Optimus then combined with the trailer to become a "Super Powermaster" and continue the attack. Who won? Find out in [[People Power!|Marvel Comics]]! {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Powermasters|Powermasters commercial}}
[[File:OptimusQuickswitchCommercial.jpg|thumb|Optimus Prime is so giving, he even gives other Transformers time in his commercials.]]
*During a battle on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]], [[Quickswitch]] transformed into his gun mode and was wielded by Powermaster Optimus Prime against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Quickswitch|Quickswitch commercial}}
*Prime, in his Powermaster body, came under attack in the darkened streets of a city. Thankfully, he was reunited with some of the greatest Transformers ever to help him! Prime welcomed back Bumblebee and Jazz in their Pretender forms, and the three were joined by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] to take on [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Classic Pretenders|Classic Pretenders commercial}}
*Powermaster Prime and [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] were the representatives from each faction that [[Doubledealer]] doublecrossed! Everyone wondered who that guy was that Prime was talking to... He looked kinda suspicious! {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Doubledealer|Doubledealer commercial}}
*Optimus was seen surrounded by a circle of his troops, and challenged them to give up their transforming powers to become faster, stronger, more alive! {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Action Masters|Action Masters commercial}}
[[File:Hotrodpatrolcommercial.jpg|thumb|Prime wants to know if they can transform, because he sure can't!]]
*Optimus found himself carrying into battle many miniature robots and machines to the battlefield in the palm of his hand. Among these was a Micromaster city, {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Micromaster micro bases|Micromaster micro bases commercial}}, the [[Race Car Patrol]], {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Micromaster Patrols|Micromaster Patrols commercial}} and the [[Hot Rod Patrol]]. He and Jazz checked out the Hot Rod Patrol, and Optimus wondered if they could transform. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Hot Rod and Construction Patrol|Hot Rod and Construction Patrol commercial}}
*As a battle raged outside an Autobot base, Prime watched impassively as Bumblebee and Jazz pulled two [[Thunder Arrow|captured]] [[Attack Copter|vehicles]] into the base. Prime was the first to notice that the vehicles were transforming and shooting things. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Micromaster micro bases|Micromaster micro bases commercial}}
*Prime was shown driving down a road in his ''Generation 2'' colored truck mode. He rocket-launched up into the air to transform, then had a brutal fight with [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. Despite getting a hole blasted in his chest, he won the fight and fired his gun into the air in triumph. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 2#Generation 2 comic|Generation 2 comic commercial}}
*Prime transformed and found his head in Megatron's target crosshairs. The two dueled fiercely. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 2#Megatron|Generation 2 Megatron commercial}}
*Prime delivered a load of shoes to schoolchildren in a South American ad for [[Bata]]'s licensed ''Transformers'' footwear.
*Prime got his own rap segment. He was seen in his "Combat" toy body, waiting for Megatron as he attacked a human subdivision. Prime converted to robot form, blew up Megatron's weapon at point blank range, and slugged it out with him. Apparently emerging victorious, he was next shown sitting next to an identical truck, which kid mistook for the real thing. The real Prime then transformed and picked up the kid, inspecting the human with his cold, lifeless, flashing red optics. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 2#Combat Heroes|Combat Heroes commercial}}
*Optimus dueled Megatron atop of an overpass in a human city. Though he managed to knock Megatron's cannon loose early in the scuffle, Megatron managed to turn the tables on the Autobot leader, reattach his primary weapon, and blast his old foe. When Megatron moved in for the kill, Optimus got his second wind, and knocked Megatron clear off the overpass. {{storylink|They were always real to me.}}
*Optimus alerted both the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] that [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] was on the loose, and the Decepticon threat was "bigger than ever." {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#2015|Transformers Generations: Combiner Wars commercials}}
*"Bot Shots" Optimus Prime had many confrontations with his Megatron counterpart, crashing into each other in vehicle mode and then slugging it out in robot mode. {{storylink|Commercial#Bot Shots|Battle for the Matrix Bot Shots commercial}} {{storylink|Commercial#Bot Shots|Bot Shots Dragon Track Commercial}} One Bot Shot Optimus and Megatron belonged to neighbours, and taunted one another when their owners left for school. They both burst out of their respective houses, destroying the windows on the way out and colliding in mid-air. {{storylink|Commercial#Bot Shots|Battle for the Matrix Bot Shots commercial}}
*"Bot Shots" Optimus Prime was riding the subway peacefully when [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]] burst into the car and told the Autobot that it was "Go time!" Optimus responded with "Bring it on!" and both crashed into one another at incredible speeds! {{storylink|Commercial#Bot Shots|Bot Shots Dragon Track Commercial}}
*"Hero Mashers" Optimus Prime, Bumblebee and Grimlock took on Megatron in the middle of a busy city. Optimus came to Bumblebee's help while riding atop of Grimlock, swapping heads with his mount to bite Megatron's arm off, getting a hold of the Decepticon's jetpack at the same time. He attached both pieces to himself, and flew around for a bit before returning to the battle. He thoroughly scrambled his pieces with those of his teammates, then took down Megatron with his "dino-fist." Afterwards, the Autobots returned to their normal configurations (though it took them more than one try to do so!) {{storylink|Commercial#Hero Mashers|Hero Mashers commercial}}

*[[Peter Cullen|Optimus Prime's voice]] narrated numerous commercials, including:
**The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Dinobots|Dinobots commercial}}
**[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Omega Supreme|Omega Supreme commercial}}
**[[Rubsign]]s {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Rubsign|Rubsign commercial}}
**[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Ultra Magnus|Ultra Magnus commercial}}
**Ultra Magnus and [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Ultra Magnus and Galvatron|Ultra Magnus and Galvatron commercial}}
**[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Springer and Wreck-Gar|Springer and Wreck-Gar commercial}}
**The [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Sharkticon|Sharkticon commercial}}
**The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] and [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Aerialbots and Stunticons|Aerialbots and Stunticons commercial}}
**[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Bruticus and Metroplex|Bruticus and Metroplex commercial}}
**[[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Defensor and Trypticon|Defensor and Trypticon commercial}}
**[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Sky Lynx|Sky Lynx commercial}}

Prime also appeared in later promotional videos for Transformers events:
*Optimus got Megatron's contact information off the internet and invited the Decepticon leader to [[BotCon 2009]]. Though it took some doing, he managed to convince Megatron that the convention would be worth attending. Optimus also planned on going to BotCon, and left for the convention alongside Wheeljack, Mirage, Ironhide, Jazz and Prowl. {{storylink|BotCon 2009!}}
*Optimus grappled with Ramjet once more in a video re-visiting the "Generation 2" era of the Transformers franchise. {{storylink|BotCon 2010 - Generation 2: Redux}}
*Punch reported back to Optimus on what he had learned about the Decepticons as Counterpunch. Mainly, that they were planning on attending [[BotCon 2010]]. Optimus then turned to Teletraan I for more information about BotCon. Upon learning that special honors would be held for him at the convention, Optimus led his troops to BotCon once more. {{storylink|BotCon 2010 Promo}}
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==Games==
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===
When Megatron and his Decepticons allies held captive the Autobot's [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops, Optimus Prime entered the Decepticon's maze-like base in order to rescue his friends. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}

===''The Transformers'' (1985)===
Optimus Prime was among the few remaining Autobots in the wake of the Decepticon creation of ROBO-CLONING technology. With his energy-starved comrades, he desperately sought pieces of the Autobot Energon Cube before the Decepticons could get their hands on them. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}

===Transformers: Mystery of Convoy===

When a mysterious force killed Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus rose as Autobot Commander in his place, and went forth to find out what killed Optimus. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}

{{note|For an alternate interpretation of these events, see ''[[To Die Game!]]''}}

===''DreamMix TV World Fighters'' video game===
{{voiceactor|[[Tesshō Genda]] (Japanese)}}
As part of [[DreamMix TV]]'s attempt to pull in more ratings, Optimus Prime and his eternal rival Megatron were invited to battle bunches of other beings on the television show ''[[World Fighters]]''. {{storylink|DreamMix TV World Fighters}}

===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
{{voiceactor|[[Robert Belgrade]] (English)}}
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===''Transformers Battle Circuit''===
Optimus Prime, one of the "greatest Transformers of all time," was part of an Autobot team that participated in a tournament on Cybertron. If an Decepticon wished to claim the title of tournament champion, Optimus was the last opponent they needed to face. {{storylink|Transformers Battle Circuit}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game (Xbox 360/PlayStation 3/PC)===
[[File:ROTF 360PS3 PC G1OptimusPrime DLC.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"Freedom is the right of all downloadable beings"]]
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Cullen]] (English)}}

{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Optimus Prime was one of a handful of downloadable characters in a DLC pack for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3.}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===Transformers G1: Awakening===
[[File:Gluawakening optimusprime.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb]]
Optimus Prime led a group of Autobots who left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], which was shot down over [[Earth]], sending them into stasis for four million years. Optimus was badly damaged in the crash, and the prognosis wasn't great, but he recovered in time to announce the Autobots had no choice but to involve the [[human]]s in their war. Following a battle at [[Dyson Dam]], Prime persuaded [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] to join the Autobot team. When the Decepticons headed through the [[space bridge]] to Cybertron, Optimus followed, only for him and his team to be ambushed and imprisoned.

He and [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] were soon rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and they promptly escaped back to Earth, just in time to rescue [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] from a Decepticon hit squad. After being misled by a phony distress call, Optimus and his team had to face an assault on the Ark. They repelled the Decepticon attack, but Prime decided that the time was right to go to Cybertron and liberate the Autobots whom [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had enslaved. The Autobots again used the space bridge to reach Cybertron, and mounted an assault of their own on the Decepticon fortress. After fighting their way through the defenses, Optimus and Bumblebee faced down Shockwave himself, defeating the Decepticon with some help from Grimlock. {{storylink|Transformers G1: Awakening}}
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===Transformers Battle Universe===
At the edge of time, when the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] needed a new host, Optimus Prime was among several warriors (and [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Prime]]s) summoned from the multiverse to battle for control of the prize. {{storylink|Transformers Battle Universe}}

===''Bot Shots Battle Game!''===
[[File:Bsbg-optimus-prime.jpg|thumb|Raise the roof!]]
Optimus participated in numerous one-on-one matches against other Autobots and Decepticons, using his fists, his sword, or his gun to defeat his opponents. Sometimes, he even faced off against himself! {{storylink|Bot Shots Battle Game!}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Early in the war, when he was still known by the name '''Orion Pax,''' the Autobot who would one day be known as Optimus Prime was ordered by Zeta Prime to escort the Decepticon Prisoners Wrack'n'Ruin in a prisoner exchange, while accompanied by Nightbeat and Alpha Trion. As the group made their way through the [[Rust Sea#IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rust Spot]], they encounter [[Slicer (group)|Slicers]] and had to fend them off. Orion Pax and his group eventually made it to their meeting spot with the Decepticon Bludgeon, only to be ambushed by the Decepticons. In the confusion, Alpha Trion was taken prisonner, and Orion Pax set off to rescue the elderly Autobot. He and Nightbeat succeeded in returning Alpha Trion under the protective custody of Zeta Prime, but Orion was himself captured in turn. Strapped to a shuttle aimed to crash into Iacon, Orion's fate seemed uncertain. {{storylink|Orion's Gambit}}

Later, Orion Pax worked as an archivist in the [[Iacon Archives]], and was friend to Ariel and [[Dion]]. Shortly after the trio encountered a group of time-traveling [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], the Archives were attacked by Decepticons, and Pax and Ariel were severely injured. The Aerialbots took them to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], who rebuilt them into Optimus Prime and Elita One respectively. {{storylink|Golden Age (Legends)|Golden Age}} The [[Matrix of Leadership]] was passed to Optimus Prime following the death of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] at the hands of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|The War Within}} During the war on Cybertron, Optimus Prime came to the aid of [[Getaway]], [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] and [[Slapdash (G1)|Slapdash]], saving them right as the Decepticons [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]] were on the verge of destroying them. {{storylink|End of the Road (Legends)|End of the Road}}

Optimus once considered having the unruly Dinobots shut down before they could accidentally cause damage, but they proved their worth during a sudden Decepticon attack. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots (Legends)|S.O.S. Dinobots}} When the Insecticons gained enough power that they'd be able to overrun [[Earth]] in seven days, Optimus Prime was forced to negotiate an alliance with the Decepticons in order to defeat them. {{storylink|Harvest of the Insecticons}} Following the disappearance of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], Optimus attempted to stop the other three Dinobots from attacking the Decepticon base, and was mauled for his trouble. The distraction at least allowed [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] to take a scan of the rogue Dinobots. {{storylink|Day of the Dinobots - Part 1}}

Optimus was challenged to a duel by Megatron as a distraction while the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] attempted to strike against [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]]. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War - Part 1}} Concerned that the Decepticons might try to steal a new [[Energon]] related technology from a science facility, Optimus sent Blaster to infiltrate and protect the base. {{storylink|Espionage}} Optimus was impressed with [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]]'s plans for a [[Solar Power Tower]], but thought it would be too difficult to defend from the Decepticons. {{storylink|The Master Builders (Legends)|The Master Builders}} Following the return of the Aerialbots from a trip to Cybertron, they told Optimus and Elita One about how they'd encountered Orion Pax and Ariel. {{storylink|Golden Age (Legends)|Golden Age}} Optimus was among the Autobots affected after Megatron sabotaged their [[recharging chamber]]. Turned evil, Optimus was sent to attack [[Rutter U.S. Military Base|Rutter Military Base]] and obtain a solar power satellite. He and the other Autobots were returned to normal by [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]'s [[attitude exchanger]], and Optimus promised to repair the base. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots (Legends)|Attack of the Autobots}}

Optimus and Wheeljack returned to Autobot HQ after an absence to find Grimlock had taken leadership. Though they failed to resist him, he soon bored with leading the Autobots and let Optimus take command again. {{storylink|Me, Grimlock, King}} Impressed with Bumblebee's success as team leader, Optimus assigned [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]] to lead a team. {{storylink|The B-Team Part Deux}} With Optimus badly damaged and without the Matrix, the Autobots were driven off Earth and sought refuge on Cybertron. Once Optimus had recovered, he put together a team which returned to Earth and retook it from the Decepticons, with Optimus badly damaging Megatron in combat. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron (Legends)|All Hail Megatron}}

Optimus led the defenses as the Decepticons mounted a full assault on [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]. The assault proved overwhelming, and Megatron soon stood over Optimus's defeated form. {{storylink|One Shall Fall...}} Optimus passed on the [[Matrix of Leadership]] before perishing. {{storylink|The Battle for Autobot City}}

When [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus]], [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] took cover within the [[Autobot Mausoleum]], retreating from an attack led by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], they found Optimus having risen from the dead! Rodimus returned the Matrix of Leadership to Optimus, only for Optimus to abandon his Autobots, and flee back to Cybertron. Optimus, it seems, has returned to the world of the living [[zombie|changed]]. Once on Cybertron, Optimus orders a full-scale assault on the Quintesson base. Thankfully, Optimus managed to come to his senses when his memories of being revived by the Quintessons reemerged. After returning the Matrix to Hot Rod and ordering the Autobots to retreat, sacrificed himself once more by guiding the ship he's piloting into the Quintesson's trap. {{storylink|Dark Awakening (Legends)|Dark Awakening}}

Optimus at some point reverted to the name Orion Pax and searched the galaxy to investigate a growing anomaly related to the [[Dead Universe]]. His investigation took him to an unknown planet populated by [[Mini-Con]]s. {{storylink|Dark Cybertron (Legends)|Dark Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''===
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Cullen]] (English)}}
====Console====
While walking through the desert one day, Optimus noticed a purple meteor passing overhead. Recognizing the meteor for [[Dark Spark|what it was]], he stated his fear that this day had come. {{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)|Rise of the Dark Spark (console)}}
====3DS====
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{{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (3DS)|Rise of the Dark Spark}}

===''Construct-Bots Builder''===
The components necessary for building "Construct-Bot" Optimus Prime were accessible within the Cybertron construction zone. Despite it being against protocol, [[you]] could mix his parts with those of Decepticons! (gasp!) {{storylink|Construct-Bots Builder}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
Optimus Prime participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He appeared in multiple different bodies:
[[File:Battle-Tactics-Optimus-Prime.jpg|thumb|400px|Team buffs are the rights of all sentient beings.]]
*''Optimus Prime'' — This Common character could be recruited by collecting 16 units of Cybermetal.
*''Orion Pax'' — This Uncommon character could be recruited by collecting 90 units of Cybermetal, and 42 units of Transmetal.
*''Optimus Prime (Voyager)'' — This Super Rare promotional character could be recruited through the space bridge for 1000 gold.
*''Laser Optimus Prime'' — This Epic character first appeared in the "Generation 2 Episode 1" event, and could be recruited by collecting 500 units of Cybermetal, 250 units of Transmetal, and 50 cores of this character.
*''Optimus M. (CW)'' — This Epic character was available as a reward in the "Optimus Maximus Awakes!" event.
{{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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[[File:Battle-Tactics-Optimus-Prime-(Voyager).jpg|thumb|400px|Soon I shall be one with the Matrix - and so will everyone else when this game sunsets.]]
[[File:Battle-Tactics-Optimus-M.-(CW).jpg|thumb|400px|I thought you were made of sterner stuff!]]
{{!}}}
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===''Transformers: Devastation''===
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Cullen]]}}
Optimus Prime led the Autobots to stop Megatron's attempt to cyberform Earth. After discovering that Megatron's new weapon was the Proudstar, Optimus initially tried to capture it intact to preserve the Cybertronian history preserved on it. Inside the Proudstar, he received a prophecy of his future death, but he merely expressed happiness that his friends would survive. After the Plasma Core was damaged and proved to be too great a threat to Earth, Optimus reluctantly decided to destroy it and the Ferrotaxis in order to preserve humanity's right to forge their own future. When Megatron shot it into space in one last spiteful effort to stop the Autobots, Prime rode an Insecticon swarm into Earth's orbit for a final showdown with Megatron. Once Megatron was again defeated, Optimus called upon the Autobots to stop merely living upon Earth and adopt the planet as their new home.
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===''Transformers: Frontiers''===
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===''Transformers Operation Omega''===
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===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
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==Toys==
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys}}

==Merchandise==
{{Main|Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise}}

==Notes==
*According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O'Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the ''Transformers'' project. ("Optimus" is Latin for "best", therefore his name can be literally translated as "'''Best First'''".)
*Optimus Prime's Japanese name is "Convoy", which is named after his original name "Battle Convoy" in the ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, because the name "Optimus Prime" is difficult for Japanese kids to remember and pronounce.<ref>''[[Figure Ō]]'' No. 114</ref> All Optimus-inspired characters were called variations of Convoy in Japan up until the [[Transformers (film)|2007 ''Transformers'' film]], at which point [[TakaraTomy]] changed their minds and began using the name Optimus Prime as well. Presumably to avoid confusion, this change includes the Generation 1 version of the character as well, who is now called Optimus Prime in newer products and fiction such as ''[[Transformers United]]'' and ''[[Transformers: All Spark]]'', though his name remains Convoy in material aimed at adult collectors such as ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' and ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]''.
*"Orion Pax" is composed of "Orion", the huntsman from Greek mythology, and the Latin word "pax", meaning "peace". The original cartoon design for him appears to [[:File:UltraMagnus-FloroDery3rdConcept-OrionPax.jpg|be based on an early Ultra Magnus concept]].
*According to an early ''[[The Transformers Universe|Universe]]''-style profile published in ''[[The Transformers Comics Magazine]]'', Optimus Prime's "official" nicknames were at one point considered to be "Autobot Commander", "Chief", "Big Boss" and "Roller". As far as it is known, no piece of fiction has ever purposely addressed him using these nicknames, though it's a fair bet he's been called "chief" at least once or twice anyway. And technically ''part'' of him is called "[[Roller (G1)|Roller]]" with some frequency.
*Optimus Prime has fictionally shown a dislike of certain kinds of music and dance. For the [[Marvel Comics continuity]], the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] for [[Still Life!|issue 324]] mentions he hates the music of [[Mötley Crüe]]. In the cartoon continuity, "[[Blaster Blues]]" and "[[Quest for Survival]]" have Optimus react noticeably more passive-aggressively to Blaster's choice of music than the other Autobots. And in the [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity]], ''[[Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired]]'' features an uncalled for negative remark about Jazz's dance skills.
*According to the staff of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'', Optimus Prime became a space explorer in the [[Beast Era]].<ref>Page 37, Guest Character and ''G1'' Icons, ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'' ISBN 978-4766938005</ref>
*Writer [[Bob Skir]] claims that neither the statue from "[[Fires of the Past]]" nor the golden disks in its hands were mentioned in the script. However, he suggested that they were either the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disks]] from the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 probes, or that Optimus won them in the 2,395,989th Annual Cybertronian spelling bee.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20080614012630/http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Tue_12_Oct_1999.html Q&A from Bigbot's "bobskir.com"] (archive copy)</ref> We're betting on the latter.
[[File:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|125px|thumb|Prime's mom knows how to write in cursive.]]
*By the time Optimus Prime appeared in ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', his 3D model from ''Beast Wars'' had apparently been lost, leading the animators to use a faceplated Optimus Primal head as a quick replacement to save time and budget.
*Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of Tupperware reads:

:''Dear Convoy''
:''Warm it before you eat''
:''Mom''

:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.

*The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://web.archive.org/web/20041220175419/http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm "Captimus Primus"], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.
*The character model of G1 Optimus Prime makes a cameo appearance, along with the original [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], as one of the four elders who began the [[space bridge]] project in the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' episode "[[Balance]]".
*As noted on [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74382 this thread here], Optimus Prime made a surprising (and somewhat awkward) cameo in the [[Calendar|January]] [[2009]] issue of "P.S.: The Preventive Maintenance Monthly" (#674), a monthly magazine issued by the [[United States Army]] that discusses issues in regards to equipment maintenance (scan included in thread; look for post #5).

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Convoy''' (コンボイ ''Konboi''), '''Orion Pax''' (オライオン・パックス ''Oraion Pakkusu''), '''Star Convoy''' (スターコンボイ ''Sutā Konboi''), '''Battle Convoy''' (Laser Optimus Prime, バトルコンボイ ''Batoru Konboi''), '''Super Convoy''' (Nucleon Quest, スーパーコンボイ ''Sūpā Konboi''), '''Optimus Prime''' (オプティマスプライム ''Oputimasu Puraimu'')
*''Armenian:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (Օպտիմուս Փրայմ ''O'ptimows P'raym''; Օպտիմուս Պրայմ ''O'ptimows Praym'')
*''Cantonese:'' '''O Baak Man''' (Hong Kong, 柯柏文)
*''Czech:'' '''Optimus Prime''', '''Optimuse Prima'''
*''Danish:'' '''Primus Optimus''' (first cartoon dub), '''Optimus Prime''' (all other media)
*''French:'' '''Optimus Prime''', '''Optimus Primus''' (Canada)
*''Hebrew:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (אופטימוס פריים ''Awpjimws Priim'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Optimusz Fővezér''', '''Optimusz Prájm''' ("Optimus Chief")
*''Italian:'' '''Commander'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Chìh-tsuēn''' (Taiwan, 至尊, "Prime"), '''Orion Pax''' (Taiwan, 奧萊安派斯 ''Ào Lái Ān Pài Ssū''), '''Qíng Tiān Zhù''' (China, 擎天柱, "Pillar that Supports the Sky")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Optimus Supremo''' (Portugal comics, "Optimus Supreme"), '''Líder Optimus''' (Brazil cartoon, "Leader Optimus"), '''Supremus Absolutus''' (Brazil comic)
*''Russian:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (Оптимус Прайм ''Optimus Prajm''), '''Orion Peaceful''' (Орион Мирный ''Orion Mirnyy'')
*''Serbian:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (Оптимус Прајм ''Optimus Prajm'')
*''Taiwanese:'' '''Bô-ti̍<sup>k</sup> Thī<sup>h</sup>-gû''' (無敵鐵牛, "Invincible Iron Ox")
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Optimus Najkrashchiy''' (Оптимус Найкращий, "Optimus the Best"), '''Optimus Prime''' (''The Movie'', Оптимус Прайм)

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Action Masters]]
[[Category:Alternity Autobots]]
[[Category:Armada Autobots]]
[[Category:Autobot leaders]]
[[Category:Beast Machines Autobots]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Autobots]]
[[Category:Beast Wars: Uprising characters]]
[[Category:Cloud Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]
[[Category:Ghosts]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:GT characters]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame characters]]
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]
[[Category:Ladybird Books Autobots]]
[[Category:Matrix bearers]]
[[Category:Multi-component Transformers]]
[[Category:Music Label]]
[[Category:Powermasters]]
[[Category:Primes]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Rise of the Dark Spark Autobots]]
[[Category:Rulers of Cybertron]]
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]
[[Category:TransTech Autobots]]
[[Category:United Autobots]]
[[Category:Zombies]]

Unforgotten

2016-08-26T18:28:52Z

Stealthyboy: /* Quotes */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''
|prev=The Duel
|next=
|image= Unforgotten Windblade Optimus Prime Megatron.jpg
|caption=Are we happy about working together? No. Are we going to do a Power Walk anyway? Hell yeah.
|title="Unforgotten"
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]], [[Machinima]]
|written by=[[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]]
|executive producer=
|airdate=[[August 23]], 2016
|animation studio=[[Tatsunoko Production]]}}

'''Optimus catches up with an old acquaintance.'''

==Synopsis==
In the ruins of an ancient gladiatorial arena, an exiled [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] does battle with the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. Easily overpowering and defeating them, Megatron questions if there is anyone who can challenge him.

Cue [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], whom Megatron seems relatively pleased to see, and [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]. Megatron questions if Optimus has come to finally end their battle, though Optimus insists he isn't here to fight. Regardless, Megatron attacks, forcing Optimus to fight back.

As the two grapple, Optimus insists Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron doesn't seem to care. Megatron instead suggests Optimus can't live without a war, reminding him how he didn't pull the trigger years ago, before hitting him with a sucker punch. Windblade steps in, but not before an enraged Optimus lunges at Megatron.

Optimus and Windblade again try to insist that Cybertron is in danger, though Megatron refuses to listen and attempts to walk away, causing Windblade to hit him with a surprise attack. Pleased with Windblade's tactics and attitude, Megatron listens to what they have to say. Upon being informed that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the Council have the Enigma of Combination, Megatron joins them, stating that he hates Starscream far more than he hates Optimus.

The three leave, heading to destroy the Enigma, once and for all...
==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (5)

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*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (1)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (2)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (3)
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (4)

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (6)
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==Quotes==
"Hm? Ah, the speaker who became a killer, big fan of your work. Do keep it up"<br />
"Arrogant relic! You have no idea who your talking to. I've-"<br />
"I meant keep up with the killing, not the speaking. It doesn't suit you."
:—'''Megatron''' shuts '''Windblade''' down.

"Brings back memories, eh Prime? The two of us fighting as the galaxy watches on!"<br />
"Cybertron is in danger. The peace treaty has fallen apart."<br />
"The treaty was a false hope, we both knew that. Cybertron can burn. They can ''all'' burn!"<br />
"I know you do not mean that."<br />
"Don't I?"
:-'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus''' exchange words as they grapple

"What was that you always used to say, Prime? Oh, that's right. '''Transform and roll out!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' steals a catchphrase.

==Notes==
* The Constructicons, or at the very least Long Haul as he is the only one we see in robot mode, are based on their [[Constructicon_(G1)#Generations|Combiner Wars]] toys.
* The Constructicons inexplicably communicate through a series of [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]-esque bleeps and bloops (presumably as a means to save money on voice actors).
* Footage from [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime's "Prelude"]] video is used for Megatron's flashback scene.

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_5c5908e732944a2ba306b4fa92e878d7 "The Duel" on go90] (US-only)
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wj2FAbYaYs "Unforgotten" on YouTube] (non-US only)

[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2016-08-18T21:10:54Z

Stealthyboy: /* Generations toyline page */

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==Gobots Sister Wiki Progress==
Has anyone ever made any progress on the Gobots sister wiki? I have no experience in creating wikis, but would love to see this get made. -[[User:Halfshell25|Halfshell25]] ([[User talk:Halfshell25|talk]]) 19:21, 22 June 2016 (EDT)

== Template proposal ==

I'm getting really sick of cleaning up fiction note templates, so, hey, here's an idea. Every single one from now on has to actually be brought up here before the community before it's implemented and not done willy-nilly by one person or a small group of editors. I realize that, as a wiki, we are going to inherently have continuity boners, but the recent trend of drowning character pages in notes is annoying and intrusive. The idea that we need to mention every point of continuity minutiae even in articles like fucking [[universal greeting]] is obnoxious and needs to ''stop''. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:I agree. Things like "Regeneration One is a continuation of the Marvel Comics continuity" don't need to be in the middle of character write-ups. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:30, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::The Marvel thing is a unique case that at least is relevant to character write ups—it tells readers that the Marvel UK stuff mixed into the Marvel US stuff doesn't count. (Of course, this only applies to articles that actually have sections for the original Marvel comics.) The text in the notes could stand to be trimmed down, though. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::Do you have some other examples of unnecessary notes we could discuss specifically? I caught the 2001 Car Robots note you mentioned from [[universal greeting]], and I agree it's pointless unless there's actually an RiD vs. CR distinction to be made. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::Wings, Classics, RG1 on pages without the continuity they're referring to. Ask Vector Prime. I'm bringing this up now because we need to develop a better way of vetting templates that are theoretically going to be used on many pages. One or two "yes" reponses on some hidden talk page most people don't notice shouldn't be used as a community-wide consensus on things that dramatically alter the reading experience across multiple pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::And looking at the other stuff we have, Template:Notecmn could easily be made as part of the actual prose and flow more naturally that way, for example. ("In a divergent timeline, blahblah"). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:17, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::And there's [[:Template:Notemoviebio]], which explains what is a regular occurrence in all of Transformers fiction for no real reason. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::A similar one is [[:Template:Notetitantlg]], which I tried to make pointless when we overhauled the movie character pages a while back and which I think we ditched ''most'' uses of, but is still out there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:22, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::Not quite the same situation, but I'd like to chime in that I'm not a big fan of [[:Template:ongoing]]. Most of the time, editors completely forget to include it on the appropriate sections, it reiterates something that's obvious ("if there's information missing here, you should add it.") and it's a note that only gets put up so that it can be eventually be taken down. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:27, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::::I agree that it's quite useless when we already have stub templates. Either information is missing or it isn't and people just leave it up on pages that really don't need it because it's not that noticeable. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:33, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::::Ehhhhhn. I'm willing to let "ongoing" live, as, well, there's a TON of "dead" fictions and only a few currently-updating ones, and letting people know which ones are likely to actually ''continue'' and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative. "Stub" can mean "it came out already and no-one's bothered yet", which is... different than "this cuts off because the scheduled continuation hasn't come out yet". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 08:12, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::Also, if you find yourself overburdened with certain tasks, don't be afraid to ask for help. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Thanks for taking care of the CR note. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::No prob. As for the RG1 note, I agree that it would look nicer as a single line of text. I'm having difficulty reducing it in length without leaving out something crucial though. I'm putting it on the back-burner for now, but I'll keep it in mind. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:18, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::Tried cutting it down a bit. The G2 bit was redundant. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::::Ah yes. Much better. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::::Yeah, that's equally informative, but also far less intrusive. Nice work, Saix -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
I just wanna say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks we have too many goddamned templates. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:03, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Two templates for discussion: Template:TransformersComicMagazin and [[:Template:GIJoeTransformersfiction]]. Necessary or not? I feel like the former states what's already obvious by the fact that it's in its own section ("Comic-Magazin is not Marvel"), while I dunno about the latter. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:Transformers Magazin could probably be done without. The {Gi joe transformers fiction} one, on the other hand, should probably be kept. With the way we use the {noteukonly} and generally treat the US and UK comics, I feel that we kinda need to point out "hey, unlike just about everything else from Marvel US, ''this'' doesn't actually fit into the Marvel UK 'verse." -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::The Joe one is terrible. It's just plopped into the middle of fiction write-ups with no specification as to what text it refers to. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 16:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, I can understand the ''purpose'', but the execution just doesn't work at all. And I don't think it belongs on the issue pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:06, 8 January 2016 (EST)
===Collapsable continuity notes?===
I don't do much fiction-section work anymore, but if I can identify part of the problem ''with the fiction itself''... unlike most franchises, TFs has a metric fuckton of "major" divergent splinter timelines. I mean, how many different Marvel G1 comic timeline spinoffs do we have now that don't actually relate to each other? It can be difficult at first look of a page to tell the difference between a series of proper, one-timeline sequel-series and, well, the clusterfuck that is post-Marvel-G1-related stuff branching out like a hydra. So I'm loathe to just run with the "well everyone reading thew wiki should know this" mentality.<br>
So, can see ''why'' the templates began, but when we started getting more and more branches? A bit out of hand. And worse, it's not quite a thing the base wiki organization tools are good at adapting and making obvious. (Frankly I find it tricky to tell sometimes the difference between a <nowiki>===</nowiki>-subsection and a <nowiki>====</nowiki>-subsection, but that's another quibble for later).<br>
I think a good amount of this can be mitigated with some creative rewriting of the sections' openings, "ten years after the battle of Klo" or whatnot. And certainly that doesn't even need to be brought up if it's just a one-off page of a piece of minor technology from one issue of a spinoff. But for larger pages with a buttload of timeline-fragments?<br>
We might want to look into collapsible Notes. Just a single template that can be adapted not just for this, but, well, for anything. Whack it up top, collapsed, have it say "Continuity Note: (more)" (not as a default), then people can click on it and see "well this continuity branches off from blardeeblar and has no relation to blardeeblar". This way the clutter is minimal, the information on our confusing mess of fiction is right at the fingertips.<br>
Just a thought.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:This sounds useful. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 8 January 2016 (EST)

:I love this idea. Collapsable notes could solve a lot of the problems we've been having with the templates as of late. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)

:I just took a brief look at the voiceactor template, since that does basically what I'm looking at, and even that template's workings are beyond my ability to understand and adapt into a collapsible Note. So um. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)

::It depends how you want it to work. Something like <nowiki>{{cnote|text 1|text 2}}</nowiki> to produce:
<div class="tt1_graynote">text 1 <span class="ocreditspan">text 2</span></div>
::Or just <nowiki>{{cnote|text 1}}</nowiki> and
<div class="tt1_graynote"><span class="ocreditspan">text 1</span></div>
::It wouldn't be difficult to knock either of those templates up --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)
:::Expanding off of what Emvee posted here, I've worked up a collapsible note template which can display a custom header, custom visible text and hideable text that is either custom or derived from a preset name. The first draft, examples and documentation can be found here: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Template:CollapseNote]]. All critiques are welcome. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 18:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)
::::Is there a way to put that in a gray box so it matches with the rest of our Notes? I think this has legs. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:49, 9 January 2016 (EST)
:::::D'oh! There is. In fact, I actually did have the box but the CSS for it is only available in my personal CSS file at the moment. I'll go integrate that into the template itself for now, then once this is approved maybe it can be moved to a site wide CSS file to reduce template clutter.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:40, 10 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Okay, the CSS is now included in the template so users besides myself can see the gray box. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:50, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I love it. Nice work, Tigerpaw. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 03:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::Seconded, good stuff. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 04:16, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I'll stick the css in the common file when everyone's happy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)

Speaking of notes and templates, can we also scrub the IDW notes that say ''"[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]] was shorter than it should've been because [[Simon Furman]] was fired."'' and the Dreamwave notes that say ''"Because Dreamwave collapsed, plot threads were left dangling."''...unless those notes are ''specifically'' contributing something to the character's page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)
:I'd say yes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:16, 15 January 2016 (EST)

== More Prominence for IDW ==

I'm going to propose a change, because the above discussion reminded me of something I find annoying -- the position of IDW in the Fiction sections. At this point, I believe IDW is the longest running continuous fiction in Transformers history. Yet while the 30 year cartoon and Marvel Comic are easy to pick out due to their position at the top or their multitude of subcategories, IDW is typically found near the bottom of the list, nestled in between Japanese micro-continuities, Sticker Adventures and, god help us, ''The Beast Within''.<br><br>
Is there a better configuration we could work with? I'd be supportive of a "Major Fiction" and "Minor Fiction" breakdown for the traditional "Fiction" section, if we could all peacefully agree to what counts as Major and Minor. Another thought I had was to do away with the ''Ongoing Fiction Template'', and just have "Ongoing Fiction" automatically at the top and "Previous Fiction" underneath.<br><br>
Any of this sound worth looking into more? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)
: Absolutely friggin' not, never or ever. Organizing fiction due to perceived prominence is counter to the very spirit this wiki was founded on. (It's also amazingly subjective and would be a headache to argue over indefinitely.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:36, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Wasn't that the point of changing the disambiguation pages though? So that the more prominent stuff was at the top and had pictures to help people? [[User:Omegatron|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::That kind of potential slippery-sloping was why I had misgivings about that change in the first place. But Disambig pages are navigation pages, and articles are not, and I have faith that we can recognize the different needs for pages according to their utility and not just make everything the same just because it makes our brains feel superficially happier. But let me put it this way: Imagine Grapple's page. In a "we put IDW first because it's important" world, a dinky subsection in which he appears in the background twice is given precedence over a Big Looker storybook in which he is a major character. IDW isn't always super important to a character's page just because its fiction's gone on a decade! And here's the kicker -- for those folks who've appeared a buttload in IDW, those sections are split off into their own subpages and navigation at the very top of the page leads you right there, effectively already giving everyone this proposed functionality. And without losing the information of real-world chronological release order that levels the canonicity playing field, I might add. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Right. The disambiguation page thing wasn't something brought up on a whim. It's not a thing I'd propose for any other "type" of page, because disambig pages serve a different purpose than almost every other. That requires some special consideration. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:15, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:No, no, no, no and no, with a side order of no and no for dessert. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:Just throwing this out there as an alternative suggestion to moving the sections around: what do people think of the idea of bolding major sections in the table of contents, so for Optimus you'd end up with something [[:File:Contents bold test.jpg|like this]]. For the sake of preventing arguments we'd reserve it for the really prominent G1 continuities (G1 and BW cartoons, Marvel, IDW and possibly Dreamwave comics), since it's not generally a problem for other continuity families. I'm thinking this could be done very simply in CSS without having to edit a ton of pages, though it would mean that characters with only an IDW fiction section would have it bolded in their contents listing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::That's got some potential, I think. I don't think single-fiction character with bold in their TOC would be a problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:48, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:This ties into an old proposal from way back that I'd also found in my Community Portal re-read, and was brought up on Allspark (and I'd briefly mentioned here recently); the visual differences between subheaders are really quite minimal. It's hard to tell at a look where one continuity-line ends and the other begins. there's got to be something we can do just '''''visually''''' to make these divisions easier to identify by sight. Can we make the header-text for continuity-breaks centered? If we wanna get fancy, can we make a graphic the header? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:47, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Okay, apparently you [[User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Fiction_header_experiment|CAN center section headers]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Did some experimenting and [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|found a way to do this]]. Requires a little bit of HTML/CSS inside the header but easily doable I think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 23:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Since the initial concern, at least, was IDW, can someone sandbox a G1 character with an IDW section to see how that might look? [[Pipes (G1)]] seems like a good candidate, since he's got a good-sized IDW section that also isn't so big it should just be a subpage. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)

I've grown pretty iffy on using images as headers, honestly. There's a lotta "standalone" timelines that don't really have logos and having only SOME major headers be logo images... ehhhhhn. Might be best to just stick with text, maybe a thin bar above, with a wiki-wide change to a thicker tier-1-header-bar. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Actually? Second thoughts, no. This would likely start too many arguments. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Another proposal after I had a thought just now: [[:File:H3 dashed overlines.jpg|dashed overlines]]. The difference should be enough to differentiate from the underlines on h2s, and they nicely group together related stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 26 January 2016 (EST)

==The Goal Of The Wiki==
(slight editing of something I posted to the Allspark's wiki thread)

A little while back I decided to rummage through the Community Portal archives... from the beginning. The earliest stages, when we were hammering out how to lay out the damn pages, what we should disambiguate by, etc. Saw the suggestions for making information more readily-accessible (character appearance tables, the GO! Box, the navigation templates), the "common wiki" practices we rejected because they just could not apply to this franchise (character infoboxes, for example, thanks to the many many many bodies the characters could have), up through the big move away from Wikia when they started really fucking us over with their ads.

And during that lonnnnng string of arguments with Wikia staff, when we tried (repeatedly) to explain why this "only not-signed-in readers will see the ads so why are you complaining since you don't see the page-ruining ads see this will somehow make money!" thing was utter bullshit...

:''"We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers."''

Re-read that. '''''RE-FUCKING-READ THAT.'''''

The wiki lost that mentality somewhere. At some point in the last few years, the wiki stopped being about the readers, what would make the vast ocean of material accessible and entertaining to them. It became a micro-minutia-based circlejerk. It became editors confusing anal-retentive busywork (based on the strictest interpretation of rules that always were meant to be applied with a slight degree of malleability because our subject matter absolutely HAS to be handled that way) with productive and useful updating. And with the advent of the Facebook AVP, it became "gee now I can make Real Transformers wheeeeee" with even more micro-minutia and bad-faith gaming of the canon policy that was originally meant to give equal space to the obscure so we wouldn't have the "prominence = more deserving" mentality (plus stuff very specifically made to create circumstances to middle-finger policies that have served us well for a decade prior).

Thus, people who've worked for a decade to make the wiki something huge and special and a wiki other fandoms look at and go "holy shit, we need something like this" find themselves frustrated and edging away as the spirit of the whole thing turns into this sour, solipsistic nigh-gatekeepery up-its-own-ass wank festival, especially when certain subjects just won't. Goddamn. STOP.

From one of our newest regulars:

:''"Hell, I've only had to deal with one day of GoBots discussion and I'm already sick of it! I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to deal with this shit on multiple different occasions over the course of several years, but I bet it's unpleasant."''

So when I see "hey why don't we move IDW sections up because I think it's more important" or "why don't we rename every character in the Japanese-fiction writeups to their Japanese names", yeah, I'm gonna respond harsher because it's kind of hit that point where we have to start bringing the hammer down hard to keep this thing even remotely accessible to anyone who isn't fully engaged in the minutia of TFdom.

I think wiki editors (and others) need to stop and have a good think about WHY they're doing what they're doing, and who they're actually doing it for, and, ultimately, if they should actually be doing it.

There's an important difference between "can" and "should", and too many don't see it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:''look i already apologised for the japanese name thing okay''
:Well, said, though, and you've given me something to think about. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:...Yeah, I'm taking exception to this.

:Because of recent events, I wasn't expecting anyone to jump for joy, but this is a bit much. First of all, "''hey why don't we move IDW sections up because I think it's more important''" is reductive and dismissive to the facts on the table and the argument I presented. IDW being "ongoing fiction" isn't my subjective opinion, it's a fact. It's also the longest running mass-market fiction not only ongoing right now, but also in Transformers history. So I'm not some weebo saying, "I like Japan, so other people must want Japan to be more prominent, too." (no offense, Riptide -- just for the argument) We were discussing a case of ''factual'' prominence, not the "perceived prominence" just inside my own silly head.

:And I don't need ''"We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers."'' repeated back to me because it was you, M "Not lovin' this idea" Sipher I was thinking of, saying those very words, which made me think this was a good idea.

:Maybe we have different ideas about what casual readers are, but I think of them as new/returning fans who came here because of some ongoing fiction they just saw, and might like to learn more about. If they're watching ''Robots in Disguise'' or ''Rescue Bots'', that's cool -- most of those character pages are traceable by (RID) or (RB) disambigs, which is simple enough to figure out. And their Fiction box sections are (mostly) minimal enough to glance over and find what you wanted.

:But what about the comics? Well, first they have to know IDW is Generation 1, which isn't exactly on the cover of the comics. Then they have to know the Fiction section on a character's page is organized by release date. You and I know that, but is that rule actually posted in a FAQ somewhere so we could expect a casual reader to know it? The way Sunbow and Marvel subdivide on most pages, a casual reader could be forgiven for thinking the most prominent stuff is ''already'' on the top. And even assuming they're visiting the Wiki on a full-screen computer and not a mobile device, for the 1987 guys or earlier "IDW Generation 1 continuity" is likely going to be "below the fold". And if you made it to the end of this paragraph thinking TL;DR, imagine the casual reader going through this in real time. THAT was who I was thinking of when I suggested the Ongoing Fiction content that the casual reader might be looking for when they come here ''be easier to find somehow''.

:I'm not ''trying'' to throw your words back at you, M Sipher, but again it honestly was a post you made this week defending the Ongoing Fiction Template that made me think of this. You said, "''letting people know which ones are likely to actually continue and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative''". But the current razor-thin, World's Smallest Template Note doesn't really accomplish that. A casual reader may stumble across it by accident, if they squint, or they'll find it if they're already looking for it, but that's it. Floating Ongoing Fiction to the top of the Fiction sections negates the need for the template, lets new readers find what they were most likely looking for more easily, and those Fictions can just as easily be shuffled back down into 'release date order "dead" fiction' once they are no longer ongoing.

:If this was a bad idea, fine. But maybe you could provide me a definition of "casual reader friendly", because obviously my ''WWMSD?'' bracelet doesn't help when I'm too stupid to know the answer. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:09, 12 January 2016 (EST)

::There's a Table of Contents at the top of just about every character page. The wiki software even ''automatically'' makes a TOC if a page has enough subsections. That TOC has "IDW continuity" in it, which links directly to said subsection. Easy.
::Your proposal is nothing but arguments waiting to happen over what's "more important", to become more arguments over which "more important" fiction takes prominenece over the other "more important" (comics or cartoons?) with no actual ''benefit''. It is furniture-shuffling. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Not to put words in Sipher's mouth, but I don't think the main idea he's putting across is ''really'' about your proposal, Xaaron, you've just said it at a moment in time in which we are seeing a lot of what Sipher describes (but trying to dub something "more important" ''will'' lead to arguments - I remember way back when when people would complain we were putting the Marvel comic ahead of the cartoon). To repost something I've also said on the Allspark - which I don't consider to relate to your proposal, Xaaron - I have been saying for a long time in private conversation what Sipher is saying now, and several months ago, I tried to explain how we're basically responsible for breeding this attitude into our readers. It's the same attitude that caused the AVP brouhaha - we are seeing editors now openly state that the wiki has been a gateway to a lot of this stuff for them, and that they have fixated on the minutiae and the continuity-fondling, which is such a small part of what Transformers, and the wiki, is about that it's the wrong lesson to come away with. Wiki projects ATTRACT those with mindsets focused on categorization, organization, and pattern-observation. It took years before we had editors who were able to reconcile that way of thinking with our "and also fun!" approach, but they now exist, and are more interested in trying to make sure all the headers are precisely the same, that everything is in exactly the right continuity-order and header-structure and category, that all the disambigs are exact - that absolutely everything fits into its little imaginary box, and that nothing breaks the rules by coming out of its box unless there's a seventeen-week debate about it first. ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT, but - with the greatest of actual respect to our new editors, because it is thankless hugging busywork and its impressive that you're dedicated to it - as Sipher says, this "moving of the furniture" is all that newer-guard editors actually seem to want to do, or to be capable of doing. It's very, very easy to paste a one-or-two sentence nugget of information from AVP into the wiki, which is why so many people do it and why it got so out of control - but you don't see anyone falling over themselves to add Spacewarp's Log stuff, even before the two-week delay, because it's not presented in nugget form, it's a piece of prose that you'd actually have to - shock, horror - read and summarize, and - oh christ no - it's NOT full of references to pre-existing things so you can't just paste it into existing articles or throw the AVP stub template in. When - just for a recent example - I can go to the article of a major character like Ironhide or Thundercracker and still find tons of material that needs filling in, that says "it doesn't matter that it's been ten years, there is a lot more important work to do than making sure that header is a level 2 or a level 3 one." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::I just want to be clear that people who take the time to do "busywork" like, say, fixing links so they no longer lead to a redirect page are ''unquestionably welcome to''. That's good, that has a tangible benefit to our wiki (reducing server load). That kind of "busywork" is ''absolutely'' okay. It's the seemingly-endless stream of talks about reorganizing hundreds of pages, arguments over disambigs, and yeah, the "easy" trivia-nugget work that's grinding here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:I get the concern over the AVP-inspired editors, and even counseled Giggidy about this very issue above. In hindsight, I probably should've waited for the dust to settle more on the GoBots matter before suggesting something similar for different reasons, but like I said, the idea was sparked by the above discussion about the Ongoing Template.
:And I completely agree that a Major/Minor Fiction split would likely lead to more arguments than benefits, which is why I also proposed Ongoing/Not Ongoing. That's completely binary and objective. It's not subject to debate over which fiction is "More Ongoing" than another.
:I agree that the IDW links above the main character images remove any need for my proposal...for the characters who have them. My concern rested with characters like Jazz or Soundwave who do not have IDW subpages, and that continuity is 21 or 24 listings down on their Fiction TOCs, nestled between things like ''Q-Robo'' and ''Henkei! Henkei!''. But, as I believe Chip suggested on the Allspark, a way to resolve all this is to just be more lenient with allowing IDW subpages in the first place. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::I too proposed that. Is there a specific reason why that tab system isn't more prominent. Heck, maybe it would even work for stuff like the Marvel and Sunbow cartoons. Those tabs are a simple and brilliant way to get our readers to what they are looking for. A casual coming here after googling say "Prowl Transformers" needs to be sent to were they need to be efficiently as possible. A page tab on his page header right at the top with IDW staring you in the face ks a good solution that doesn't deal with any of the parliamentary bojangling that's been such a hot topic lately[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 01:25, 14 January 2016 (EST)

==Continuity Stream Bullshit==
I suggested this on the Allspark, and there's some momentum for it so I'll put it here.

As M Sipher said above, arbitrary furniture movement is bad. That said, all the continuity stream minutae is even worse, and serves only to bloat our pagecount with duplicated information in articles that will only ever be stubs forever. Why do both [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] and [[The Transformers (issue)]] exist? Or [[Marvel Comics continuity]] if you think the continuity is more important than what the Universal Stream indicator actually decodes to, although if there weren't significant opposition I'd argue that since the stream encoding to a piece of fiction is a 1:1 mapping that we should respect that directly.

Since a Universal Stream page will not contain any useful information other than its actual stream indicator (and VERY occasionally some detail such as "this universe is destroying another one"), I'd like to propose that all universal stream pages either be redirected to the actual single piece of fiction that the stream indicator decodes to, or to the Continuity timeline page that best describes it - and somewhere on **that** page we try and find a place for the universal stream number. Perhaps in the same fashion we originally handled alternate names - directly below the introductory paragraph, in bold?

If this causes problems, feel free to disregard... but I've heard enough discontent about the matter and there's been enough push for it there that I feel confident enough to put my next foot forward on this happening. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:32, 13 January 2016 (EST)

My proposal is that rather than stream pages, major continuities would all get pages. a Marvel g1 universe page, a sunbow cartoon universe a Classicsverse page and so on. Then, stream numbers used in universe would be redirect to those pages. Minor streams would get redirected to the current list pages we have now; AVP additions to minor streams would go in notes on the works main page. (For example, Ulchtar would go in the notes of that videogame)[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:51, 13 January 2016 (EST)

I just noted that the already existing Universal Stream pages could be converted into continuity pages in some instances , http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Classicsverse could be simply renamed "Classics Continuity/Universe" for example[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:07, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I'm not seeing how universal streams are logically any different than random crap namedropped without context in stories all the time. [[Pralmtzurlz VI]], [[Vaulted Heights of K'th Kinsere]], and [[Payload of General Frightening]] have less content than most universe pages. There also isn't really a way to effectively have real-world information and then fictional universe information on the same article; [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]] isn't going to look any better if you put all of the [[To Die Game!]] stuff on it. (Primax 984.0 Gamma is also not limited to "The Transformers", so, uh, what?) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::The difference is those pages are not wholly redundant. For example, yeah, maybe the city "Gygax" only got mentioned offhand in one story. But as it gets a page, it goes in the Category listing of "Cybertron cities" (or whatever it's actually called) and then when, oh, say, a TV cartoon writer wants to look up cities for references...
::In other words, BAM, the whole reason we did this wiki. The obscure was given an outlet, and it got used again. And this is far from the only instance.
::But this is not a functionality that serves any real purpose for the named Streams. You need to know the code to make any sense of them, at which point you can easily make up a code for any piece of fiction that exists. And ''every piece of Transformers fiction that exists IS canonically its own universe'', '''''and''''' simultaneously wholly-subsumed parts of other universes, because of quantum (read: pseudoscience arglebargle translation of a meta-based concept with no real defined rules because we, and I literally mean WE as in me and Trent, made it all up and jesus on a tilt-a-whirl some people think way too hard and too rigidly about this). All these pages do is create a hoop for people to jump through unnecessarily. We don't need the pagecount bloat.
::If people are REALLY concerned about stuff not from, say, that one storybook that some FunPub gag-strip or Facebook post placed some wacky new event, then there is a simple solution. NOTES SECTION. One bullet point is really all you need in the overwhelming majority of cases. Something else, a subsection under notes called, oh, "Use in Other Fictions" will cover it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, the "club fiction adds a bunch of stuff to some random micro-continuity" scenario is really the only one where the stream pages are even remotely good for anything - the Shell Game/Megazarak universe springs to mind - and in those cases it is potentially useful to have the info from a bunch of separate AVP things (or whatever) collected. But as you say, Sipher, that kind of thing could happily live in the notes section of the fiction article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::::From a group complaining about "moving the furniture around", there sure have been a lot of suggestions recently about deleting a lot of pages and taking all the info in them and putting them onto slightly harder-to-find pages. I'm not even sure I have an opinion on this proposal, but the observation struck me as odd. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Context is important, and the context here is bandwidth issues and reader experience. Those are fucking important. Every time we bounce a reader to another page, that's another tick on our sever, and these pages are, as noted, almost wholly redundant info when we could send them to a page that has the whole thing. And you're gonna sit there and claim that a listing of made-up words and number gibberish is somehow easier for a reader to use than just putting the relevant information on a page titled in plain English they're ''vastly'' more likely to find on their own. Okay, sure, whatever. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:17, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I think at the very least, there's little reason to argue that stream indicators for major continuities shouldn't just redirect to the continuity page, i.e. [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] to [[Marvel Comics continuity]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (EST)

::Let me put this another way... the stream pages feel akin to having a page for "Khrapovik" then listing only the things ''Prime'' Ratchet did in the Russian comics on it. Again, ''technically'' a different universe, sure, but it's part of the bigger universe and splitting it out really only obfuscates info in the name of pedantry, and it's just better off folding it into the main. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::: That makes a lot of sense to me. This might be one of those situations where we want to use flexibility. If there is a continuity page that already exists, maybe the redirect goes there and we have a fiction section. If there's a universal stream and little else, maybe that can just go away. And if there's a lot of information about the stream, maybe we just keep it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::So should we start compiling solutions for wn eventual vote. I'm behind the idea of replacing stream pages with pages for the continuity. In fact I think a good way to deal with extra Avp infor is to use are already existing arrow system. Thede added storiee are just like,say Regeneration One added to the end of Marvel US in a way, so for example. Mystery of the Convoy would get an arrow that goes to To Die Game, Shell Game would get an extra a avp write up detail.

But over all I am for us having Continuity pages instead of streams. Like was said above we don't need Primax Whatever Gamma AND Marvel US continuity pages.
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:30, 14 January 2016 (EST)

==Alternate names==
When we mention a character's alternate names (i.e, on X's page, we note that "he is sometimes known as '''Y'''), there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly ''where'' we do it. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grapple_(G1)&oldid=1043677 Some pages]<ref>(EDIT: Grapple's alternate name has been moved to the bio, so the link goes to an older revision for clarity.)</ref> place such information near the top in the continuity note, whereas [[Octane|others]] put it at the end of the opening paragraph. Is there a policy on this? I don't particularly care one way or the other, I'd just like to see them made consistent. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2016 (EST)
:I prefer them to be in the top rather than in the bio.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:54, 17 January 2016 (EST)
::The continuity notes are cluttered enough already. Put them at the end of the bio. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::: I think, barring the unusual case of an obscure alternate name that is seldom used, the end of the continuity note is the ideal place. But I'm not sure consistency is absolutely necessary, as long as the information is conveyed in an appropriate way.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:14, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I concur with Saix. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I prefer the end of the intro over the continuity note. It leaves more room for multiple names (in case a character has 2 or more alternate names) and also makes room for context (like, when and where and why is the character sometimes called by that other name). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::::I prefer the end of the intro as well. Take a look at [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hot_Rod&oldid=1046644 Hot Rod]. <ref>(EDIT: as of 18:11, 20 January 2016 (EST), they've been moved into the bio. The link goes to an older revision for clarity.)</ref>He has all his names in the continuity note, and it's a mess. If we're going to pick just one way to do it (and I think we should), it should be at the end of the intro. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::::You've convinced me that the intro is a smarter spot. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)
How about [[Vector Prime]]'s alternate names? He's never made a solid appearance using any of them, so should they be in both the intro and in the AVP story section? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:23, 21 January 2016 (EST)
: That feels like a great place to make an exception and only list them in the fiction section or the notes.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:44, 21 January 2016 (EST)
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn't re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Convoy is also called Miscellaneous Magnus, then [citation needed]. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.] [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names_links|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:25, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== Parodies ==

I think we should have one page that lists notable parodies and stuff. Just to get them out of the way. [[User:HarbringerOfDoom|HarbringerOfDoom]] ([[User talk:HarbringerOfDoom|talk]]) 08:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)

:They're already out of the way, by virtue of being not on this wiki. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::I noticed recently that the other place has started listing stuff like characters' appearances on ''Family Guy'' and ''Robot Chicken'' in their main profiles, which gives us even more reason not to. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I can see the appeal, but I suspect it would quickly get out of hand. Transformers gets referenced in a lot of pop culture. Every show, movie, and Web comic is somebody's favorite, so I suspect any such page would quickly become an unbearably long and tedious list. So what would that leave us with? A page saying Transformers often shows up in pop culture? I'm not sure there's any value to that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:13, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:You guys have got to just be doing this on purpose now. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (EST)
::::I will get myself banned before I will allow this wiki to cover Family Guy and Robot Chicken. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::::'''''NO.''''' Like, a thousand times no. I believe similar discussions have been had in the past, and the answer was a resounding no. (I can't find that particular discussion at the moment; I'll post it here if I find it.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::::::We have episodes of cartoons and issues of comics that are stubs and primary character articles that need to have their fiction sections filled out, but ok, yeah. Let's start pedantically listing every time ''Family Guy'' has referenced Transformers. That should be a priority. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:''<nowiki>**Condescending Wonka image**</nowiki>'' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)
The only page that would make sense (to me) while keeping in line with the spirit for this wiki is a simple list of times that official product was used in movies and television.
*This toy was in such and such movie in year 19XX.
*Transformers episode so'n'so was seen the background of movie in year 200X.
*A number of toys were shown featured in McTV show in episode whatzitz.
References are out. Parodies are out, and it's only a single page as to not clutter up the rest (similar to what we do with unofficial Transformers guides.) --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 02:36, 22 February 2016 (EST)
:I really don't see any potential benefit to that. Are we going to make a page full of stuff like "Some G1 toys showed up in ''Flight of the Navigator''" and stuff like that? Why? It's pointless, and it would just open the floodgates for more of the same pointless crap, not to mention how bloated and useless it would be. Before long, people will use that page as an argument for including bullshit from Family Guy and the Chevy commercial with the car that turns into a robot and god knows what else. Information about references to ''Transformers'' in other media is something for Wikipedia to cover. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (EST)

== Question about GoBots....not the one you are thinking of ==

Discussion moved to [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/GoBots#Question_about_GoBots....not_the_one_you_are_thinking_of]]

== Is there a category for images from the ''Timelines'' Facebook pages? ==

Do we have a category for all the images posted on the ''Timelines'' Facebook pages like [[Ask Vector Prime]], [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]], etc? As I've been going through the [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|uncategorized images]], I've noticed that quite a few of them are from those Facebook pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)

== "Requested URL could not be retrieved" ==

I can't seem to find any kind of technical place to post this, so I'm just going to post it here in the hopes of getting some attention. For some reason, I've been locked out of the site; trying to access the website on either of my main computers results in a white page and an "ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved" message. I've tried clearing my cache, deleting cookies, all that stuff (I can still post on my phone). I suspect that it's some kind of internal server problem (I don't think I've done anything to break the wiki on my end), but I'm not sure? Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:09, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:That might have been me being too zealous with the spam blocking. I'll send you an email shortly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:36, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:: Thank you! I will see if it works. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::Did you get the email? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:14, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::: sorry for the late response, it got put into junk mail. Clicking the link just takes me to a blocked site. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:43, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::OK, I think you should now be unblocked. Give it another try! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:57, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::: It worked! Many thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:03, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::::No problem - sorry about that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:05, 29 February 2016 (EST)

== Facebook-exclusive characters ==
Given the copious quantity of characters debuted through the Tornado and TransTech Facebook pages who have no toys and have yet to appear in any other fiction, would it be appropriate to create a "Facebook-only characters" subcategory of "Fiction-only characters"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:59, 1 March 2016 (EST)
:Not a bad idea. I'd also be down for "Online-media exclusive characters" or something along those lines. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:15, 1 March 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, that sounds worthwhile. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (EST)

== Furthering the use of list articles ==

Looking at Chris McFeely's [[User:Chris_McFeely/Sandbox:ListofRenegades|sandbox]] for the GoBots list article, I think that maybe similar list articles would be a nice way to handle some of the minor Shattered Glass and Kre-O characters. Pages like [[Broadside (SG)]] are rather useless, and I think that consolidating such pages into a list article would lead to a better reader experience. (To save us from pointless page moves, I would suggest just turning the old pages into a redirect to the list article, keeping all the categories.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:38, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:No. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)
::Would you care to elaborate on that? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:20, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:::We only used a list for GoBots as a compromise for the endless debate. Applying that concept to inarguable Transformers characters is senseless and leads to more arguments over what counts for a list and what doesn't. You're just causing more inconsistency and headaches for no benefit. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:39, 3 March 2016 (EST)
I still hate the list pages for Gobots, I don't want to have to spread it further. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:25, 3 March 2016 (EST)

Lists are not ideal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:Fair enough. It was just a thought -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)

== Sick Of Arguing About GoBots II ==

Discussion moved to [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/GoBots#Sick_Of_Arguing_About_GoBots_II]]

== RID Kre-O ==

Since we're unlikely to get any more Kre-O fiction, and all of the RID Kre-O articles are pretty sparse in content, maybe they should just be merged to the main RID character articles? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:27, 8 March 2016 (EST)
:I'll be honest, I'm not averse to this at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:13, 8 March 2016 (EST)
::I guess nobody's really opposed to this or cares, so I'll go ahead and do it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)
After looking through the Kre-O pages... I feel like the comic-only cameos should all just be merged to whatever they're referencing. After merging all of the Iocus crap, it feels right to do the same to articles that are pretty much just "BWII Galvatron, but as a Kreon". They're very specific references removed from their context for really no good reason. Maybe not a popular suggestion, but throwing it out there. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:50, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::So long as it doesn't mess around with characters that freely switch between different incarnations of themselves, or are composite homages that can't be neatly classified. I can't think of any way those could be neatly merged into another page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:10, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm mostly focusing on unique characters (Fractyl, Atari, Tarn, etc.) and not the big archetypes like Optimus or Bumblebee. Most characters with toys will be left alone. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:I'm extremely cool with this. Never been big fan of giving them individual articles in the first place. Like, honestly, in a more organized world where this stuff hadn't been created on an incremental basis, "Fornax" almost certainly wouldn't be a thing and it'd all be Iocus. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:Again, no real objection, if a tepid "sure". I mean, I'm not really convinced that Kreons based on existing characters who DO have toys but no fiction (like a hefty chunk of the "Class" sets) really need to be split out. A page from Kreon Topspin seems... overly redundant. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:29, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, I'm looking around more and it seems like there's only a select few that couldn't be encompassed by their main versions. Most of the Class series is guilty of that, but there's also lots of Kreons based on one-shot characters ([[Wingspan Hawk]], [[Barrage (Kre-O)]]). We have a lot of pages that are just "this exists and is obviously this other thing" from both the toyline and the comic. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:39, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:::You probably are doing this, but be sure to add the "Kreons" category and such when condensing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:Ehhh... I disagree. I mean, the Kreon Class ones, sure, but I'm less certain on What about the likes of the [[Soundwave's Trap? Stop Operation Brainwash Humanity!|Soundwaves and Convoys]] and [[Enter the New Emperor of Destruction!? Stop Galvatron's Rampage!|Starscreams]]? I'd probably vote strong "yes" to merging the Class of 84/5 guys, weak "yes" to merging the fictionless Kreons (and maybe the non-Transformer comic cameos, I don't know), but a strong "no" to anyone who was actually in the comic. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 06:55, 10 March 2016 (EST)
::We do have a couple of examples where character pages have sections that cover more than one character already. The Masterforce transtectors and the BeCool cartoon come to mind. Does it really serve anything to give those tiny one-panel cameos in a referential comic their own pages? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:::As I've noted before, there comes a point where we're just being pointlessly pedantic, making people jump through hoops (and incrementally hitting our bandwidth limits) for... no actual ''benefit'' near as I can tell. Seriously. What's the benefit? What is the purpose? "Consistency"? Sorry, this franchise has grown and mutated too big for us to try and cram everything into no-exceptions rules. We HAVE to be flexible and make exceptions in some places, and when it comes to overly-redundant pages, that's where I'm more than willing to make exceptions.
:::I'm down with low-content one-pages for one-panel ''unique'' characters to be certain, like the Hideous Brain Guy, but for Basically The Well-Known G1 Character But In Brick Form? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (EST)
Should we merge <nowiki>[[Soundblaster (Kre-O)]] into [[Soundblaster (G1)]]?</nowiki> Their colors aren't exactly the same, but they're both black repaint clones of the main Soundwave. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:02, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
:Sure, whatever. If another independent G1 Soundblaster pops up, that's probably where they're going anyway. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
So what are we doing about ''Kre-O'' toys who unambiguously represent a single established character? Back on March 25, Sipher undid the merger of ''Kre-O'' [[Ravage (Kre-O)|Ravage]], but on May 5, Chris merged ''Kre-O'' Megaplex. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:25, 15 May 2016 (EDT)

== Informing new users of the recent anti-spam measures ==

(Slight re-editing of something I posted on the Allspark) I think we may need to put something in [[Template:Welcome|the welcome template]] and/or on [[Main Page/editing-tips|Main Page/editing-tips]] about how new users are unable to create pages because of all the spam stuff; it seems to be [[User talk:Foffy the Sheep#Extreme Editing Difficulties|confusing some people]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:45, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
:I've just reduced the timeout for creating new pages down to 6 hours, which should still slow down the spammers but not be quite as much of a burden on legit new users. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:50, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
Is any active admin still getting emails sent to the webmaster mailbox? I ask because I'm getting a ton of them: Looks like new IP/User Agent blocks, and I haven't touched this setup since... 2014? [[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 23:12, 23 March 2016 (EDT)

We now have a new captcha based on the [[Transformers Name Generator]], which should hopefully be harder for the spammers to crack. Also my apologies to the non-spammers caught up in the blocking - all of the user agent blocks have been rolled back by now, so hopefully no one should be blocked from viewing the site. (Also as per McFly above, I've redirected the webmaster email address to me) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:18, 25 March 2016 (EDT)
:I hope the new signup test is not too difficult - I notice we haven't had any new signups since implementing it. I changed the notice to be clearer and provided an example. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:30, 27 March 2016 (EDT)

== Memobots and Deskcepticons ==

For those not in the know, the Hasbro Facebook page posted a bunch of new "characters" for April Fools, The Memobots and the Deskcepticons. While awesome, there's very little material for each "character" to have its own page. (All there is are photoshopped pictures of office supplies, some tech-spec stats and some very brief blurbs.) I'm thinking maybe each "faction" could have a single page, listing each of its members, instead of a very bare page for each "character." Thoughts? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
: Just so long as they're represented here somehow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:08, 2 April 2016 (EDT)

== Possible partnership with the German Transformers Wikia ==

I've been approached by the main admin of the German Transformers Wiki[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Abatesnz#Conflict_with_the_TFWiki.net] about forming a partnership with them. We've had a long running partnership with Wookieepedia, which is also hosted on Wikia. They'd link to our pages from their pages and vice versa. Possibly we could set them up as an interlanguage link - I'd have to look into what's involved. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

== Beast Wars reorganization ==

[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Demonstration]]. It's evident that all of the conflicting continuities and crap is out of control, so this seems like the cleanest approach now. It's based on the movie approach we're using, since it's a pretty similar situation. Thoughts? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:23, 15 April 2016 (EDT)
:That's fine by me. The old chronological way is becoming a clusterfudge. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:33, 15 April 2016 (EDT)

==GoBots discussions consolidated==
Since we've been discussing this topic for literally years, I thought it would be useful to consolidate it all in one place, in order, with summaries of the key decisions. It can be daunting to keep track of it all, and in recent months the rules have changed several times. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots]]. Summaries could use some work, but I tried to stick to the simple facts without editorializing. I think the important thing with the summaries is that they succinctly say roughly what was discussed and what, if any, decisions were reached. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:47, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

== "Transformers Trilogy" manga ==

(Although I'm not sure if that's the actual title.) Turns out I have it on my hard drive: [https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ymumej4klqkttlu/AAA2AdRbHyvvxUU6kR6b-rBCa?dl=0]. Feel free to do with as you please. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 01:03, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

==Alternate Names links==

Looking at [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise's]] page, I see from the top he is sometimes known as '''Streetstar''' and '''Streetsmart'''. I know Streetstar comes from ''Wings'', but I don't know where Streetsmart comes from. I recommend a practice of making those "sometimes known as" bits into links that carry you down to the particular Fiction or Toy where the particular name comes from, like <nowiki>[[Streetwise (G1)#Wings Universe|Streetstar]]</nowiki>. Thoughts? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:I like the idea, but I would prefer ref notes to section links. Also, there are cases like Bluestreak/Silverstreak, where the alternate name is used in multiple places, and we'd have to decide how much detail we'd want to go into in those instances. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah, if an alternate name is used in multiple places, a reference note explanation attached to the name could better cover all of those in one go. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::I would prefer to uses refs even when the name is only used in one place. I can't quite put it into words, but using section links for this purpose just feels...''wrong''. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:55, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::Could you try to put it in words? Because section links would be ''"Click here to find what you're looking for."'' Ref notes would be ''"Click here to go to some text at the bottom of the page to tell you where to look in the middle of the page to find what you're looking for."'' Seems like an unnecessary extra step. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:32, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::I think the section link wouldn't make it very clear that it's showing you where the name is from. It looks like it's going to send you to a different page or something, then just sends you to a different section of the same page and hopes you figure out what's going on.

:::::The ref note has an advantage in that it's already associated with addendums and citations. When the reader sees a ref note, they instantly know "this will show me some details about this bit of text", while a link says "This is going to send me to another page". -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 14:05, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::...I feel like the reader would have to be pretty stupid not to understand what the link was doing. "Slingshot is sometimes known as '''Quickslinger'''." Click the link, see a toy of Slingshot called Quickslinger, with http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slingshot_(G1) still in the address bar. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:21, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, I guess you're probably right. Ref notes would only be absolutely necessary if an alternate name is used in multiple places. I'd still rather use ref notes on all of them, but your way works just as well and it's not really worth arguing about any further. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:16, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Coming back to this, ref notes have the advantage of being easier to change if a variant name starts popping up in more fiction, just add it to the list. A section link would have to be completely rewritten into a ref note. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 13:00, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
@Foffy: I don't see a problem for the cases I've mentioned, no, but I'm not convinced my idea is best for cases where a character is regularly known by multiple names. For instance, how would this apply to Hot Rod's page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

*tl;dr-r (too long; didn't re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Prime is also called Miscellaneous Maximus, then [citation needed]. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.] [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:24, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== characters without pages ==

i do not feel compelled to create pages for [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Toxicity&diff=1096168&oldid=1072705 Scarytown] or [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Insecticon_%28WFC%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096169 Scurry Down], do you?
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:10, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:Given that this character doesn't exist and he's telling the other injured Insecticon to "stay down," no, I don't. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::Chris McFeely edit summary: We went through this when the episode aired - he's telling the other Insecticon to "stay down."
:::Thanks. Can you link me to that discussion? (Not finding it on [[Talk:Insecticon_(WFC)]] or [[Talk:Toxicity]], maybe the Community Portal archives?) i have the DVD in my computer's disc drive right now and i really don't think he's saying "stay down"; i'm quite sure i hear another syllable in the middle there. (i also think Hardshell using the other Con's name makes more sense than telling him to stay down.) But like i said, it's hard to make out what he's saying. --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::I don't think there's even a discussion to link to, because editors just reverted anyone who tried to add it. He's not calling him "Scurrytown." I'm sorry, he's just not. It's the snarling voice Kaye uses. There's KIND of a "k-" sound in there, but there's no R. The Insecticon has just tried to get up, and Hardshell is telling it not to bother, and instead stay down and radio the ship. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== A suggestion to benefit the wiki ==

Hey everyone. I've noticed that this wiki lacks some templates that would be beneficial to have when it comes to linking articles. For example, if I want to link to the G1 Starscream page, I would have to write <nowiki>[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]</nowiki>. That's sort of a pain to do. Over on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/ SmashWiki], we use some templates to cut down on the amount of text needed to do that kind of linking. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:SSB Here's an example].

If we implemented this, one would have to write <nowiki>{{G1|Starscream}}</nowiki> if they wanted to link to that page. That cuts down on a lot of text.

Is this a good suggestion? Btw, I still think that pages such as [[Optimus Prime (WFC)]] should be called Optimus Prime (Aligned) instead. It makes ''way'' more sense to do it that way and would make this template process a bit easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:Could be useful. But disambiguating by continuity family instead of franchise has been discussed to death and decided against repeatedly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::I know that it's a frequently argued topic, but I think it's more relevant than ever due to the fact that we have two franchises with the same name (RID). I mean, why are [[Steeljaw (RID)]] and [[Grimlock (RID)]] not characters from the same series? It makes no sense. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 14:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::: Part of the disambiguation by series, and not by continuity family, is because sometimes character names get re-used within a universe for different characters. For instance, we have [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] the Autobot lion, and Steeljaw the Decepticon wolf, both of whom exist in the Aligned universe. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:05, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::The problem you're having is that you're expecting the disambig tags to convey information when that's not their actual job. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::It's not? Wouldn't it be simpler then to just go numerical by appearance? Optimus Prime (1), Optimus Prime (2), etc? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:32, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::Because then you'd have to memorise a list of numbers in order to link to the Optimus Prime that you wanted? If disambig tags were supposed to be a source of information, every single article would have one. Their actual job is to avoid having articles named the same thing. The continuity note, i.e. the ''first sentence of every article'', is the thing that's supposed to tell what franchise and continuity family a thing is from. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::::That. The current disambig tags exist to help editors remember who's who while saving us from having to type "(RID 2015)" over and over. Would you be able to tell me offhand who "Blackout III" is? They are ultimately an editing convenience and are not meant to convey every single detail about a character. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:12, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::::I can see how that would be a pain. I wasn't proposing that system, just trying to reconcile the idea that tags don't convey information.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::So that case would move further down the hierarchy. How does that affect the idea of starting with continuity family? And it is completely ignoring the fact that the (RID) tags (and the (Universe) tags) are ambiguous in the real world sense. True, they may not be ambiguous in the narrow wiki definition, but to new and casual readers the fact that the exact same tag can refer to two different series is confusing. We should not be increasing real world ambiguity ("Which RID series is this again?") just because it doesn't cause wiki-centric ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:15, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

oh my god you guys, '''no, stop''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:I feel like disambiguation tag debates should be definitively banned, to be honest. They just go into circles and nothing ever changes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:44, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
Typing <nowiki>[[Starscream (G1)|]]</nowiki> also works, is only slightly longer than <nowiki>{{G1|Starscream}}</nowiki>, and has the benefit of not including the overhead of expanding a template which adds processing time to any page when the site has to render it. That last one might not be a problem on a small wiki with only medium-sized pages like SmashWiki, but here it could be a big issue. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:22, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:That's great. I had no idea. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::It ''is'' kinda buried in the middle of [[Help:Editing]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2016 (EDT)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Well, to anyone who actually contributed to the discussion, thanks for your input. I can see that this sort of template isn't really what this wiki is looking for, although I do think it would make things a little easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 23:40, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== How to request main page changes? ==

Hi! I'm fairly new here, so I'm sorry if this is a silly question. The main page seems to be edit-locked except for admins, which is an excellent idea. However, I'm used to having a place to request edits to locked pages - in this case, I'd probably mostly be asking for updates to the Rescue Bots "newest episodes" list. Does this wiki have one? If yes, where? Thanks for answering! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 17:02, 25 May 2016 (EDT)
:The current releases box actually runs off a separate template that anybody can edit - click the little 'V' in the corner of the box to access it and update to your heart's content! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:12, 25 May 2016 (EDT)
::I didn't even notice that. Thanks! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 19:23, 25 May 2016 (EDT)

== Anonymous Primal (BW) has lots of toys! You may be looking for Anonymous Primal (Animated) or Anonymous Primal (RID). ==

A [[Mirage_(G1)/toys|few]] [[Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys|spot]] [[Megatron_(G1)/toys|checks]] suggest that when a character has enough toys that they warrant a separate page from the character's main article, the toys page does not link directly to a disambiguation page, even if the character does. Looks like [[Shockwave_(G1)/Marvel_Comics_continuity|fiction]] [[Wheeljack_(G1)/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity|sections]] don't have disambiguation links, either. How easily could disambiguation links (where applicable) be added to the {(suite)} template? So if you're trying to look up a toy and, whoa, hey, these aren't the droids i'm looking for, but that's the name on the box--maybe someone else has that name?

i bet you're thinking, "If you start by looking up the name on the box, you'll land on the disambig page." But what if an internal link on the wiki sends you to /toys or /IDW_Generation_1_continuity or whatever, and it's not the right namesake?

Maybe it's easy enough to find the disambig pages. But maybe we can make it easier. i just don't know how to edit templates, myself (and wouldn't edit them without asking).

--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 23:45, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
:"But what if an internal link on the wiki sends you to /toys or /IDW_Generation_1_continuity or whatever, and it's not the right namesake?" Which doesn't happen. You are creating solutions to problems that only exist in your head. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:18, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
::What Saix said. If the links are sending someone to the wrong place, what needs to happen is that we fix them, not create solutions to problems that will never arise if everything is done properly. Also, I'd really rather not clutter the suite templates; they're specifically desgned to be small and non-intrusive, and sticking disambigs in them detracts from that. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:26, 30 May 2016 (EDT)

== IDW Revolution ==

So the preview for ''Rom'' #1 shows the EDC in it and we can probably expect more of this sort of thing. This could be a problem for recording stuff, since the EDC is a Transformers concept but if it becomes a ''Rom'' one too, we technically need to put a lot of Rom storylinks here.

So should we do a rule that it has to be ''specifically'' a Transformer appearing to get covered, and otherwise we'll put it in Notes ("the EDC also shoot Rom!!")? --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 17:17, 7 June 2016 (GMT)

:I think the closest thing we have to an existing standard is [[Unfoldings!|G.I. Joe #138]], a comic that is not an identified crossover with Transformers and contains the most minor of guest-appearances inside. The full issue is summarized on this site, and details of that issue appear in the fiction section of every character, even ones like [[Wild Bill]] who had no contact with Transformers whatsoever for the story.

:Beyond that "standard", though, you're right that we will need to establish a rule for when Hasbro/IDW Universe stories are covered. Only when Transformers appear in the issue? Transformers characters? Transformers concepts? If Blackrock appears in MASK #3, do we cover that issue based on that alone? What if there's also a one-panel flashback of Blackrock with Galvatron? Do we cover it then? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:50, 7 June 2016 (EDT)

::My two cents. If it's not a piece of Transformers fiction, it generally only gets mentioned in the notes, even if a nominally-TF character appears. Major characters (you can decide who fits) can tip the scales, and situations like GI Joe #138 get included because that issue is essential to understanding issue #139 (where the crossover is first explicitly mentioned, but where the action is already well in play as the issue opens, and #138 is necessary to understand how we got there. Note also that a major TF character appears in #138, if only briefly). These general guidelines should be able to suffice for the most part. --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] ([[User talk:G.B. Blackrock|talk]]) 13:32, 7 June 2016 (EDT)

:::Disagree on #138. It's completely unnecessary for understanding #139 ("Megatron is attacking the castle!" is pretty clearly conveyed by the splash page), and it actually ''confuses'' the situation, since the shadowy conversation in #138 is ignored or outright contradicted later in the story.

:::But regardless, that brings us back around to "What's a major character?" Only Transformers? Pre-IDW humans like Fairborne, Spike, and Blackrock as well? Jimmy Pink and Jones? What if Battle Force 2000 encounters the Enigma of Combination? What if MASK travels to Cybertron, but no identifiable Transformers appear? I realize a lot of these questions can't be answered until it happens, but some idea where everyone sits on the matter should be established ahead of time, if we can. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:46, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::If it's not an explicit and branded crossover we should have minimal coverage. If an actual Transformer shows up in another book, we cover his appearance but that's it. 138 is probably covered in too much detail already. Transformers concepts and settings and human companions appearing in other books are notes. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 14:15, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::I think if a Transformer or other Clearly A Transformers-Franchise Character like Blackrock, Marissa, Spike, etc. shows up in another title's issue, than that issue should get fully covered as a crossover regardless of "branding." A TF-originated ''concept'', however, like the EDC, putting in an appearance probably doesn't need to be more than a note somewhere. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:49, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::No. We don't cover every Marvel Comics issue Death's Head's shown up in following his departure from the TF universe. And before you "WELL ACTUALLY" me, he's only not a Fully Legal Transformers Character on the most petty of technicalities. He was made to be a Transformers character and given a legal out to be used elsewhere without paying Hasbro.<br>
::::::AT MOST, non-Transformers books should be lumped together in a fiction section on the franchise in question's page. Personally I have grave doubts as to just how much character bleed there actually will be, as well as how long any of these titles are even going to ''last''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:03, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::WELL ACTUALLY another difference there is that, like you said, Death's Head ''departed'' the TF universe. He was taken away from the TF franchise and given to Marvel-at-large. This has not happened with say, Marissa Fairborn, who is still a Transformers character. Her "home title" is still The Transformers. A hypothetical Marissa Fairborn guest appearance in an issue of M.A.S.K. is, IMO, just as much of a TF crossover as an appearance of, say, Cosmos or Soundwave would be. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 15:22, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Which should still be relegated to a singular fiction section on the not-Transformers franchise page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:41, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::But the fact that that legal out was ''created'' would, I think, make him a Marvel-by-way-of-Transformers character. He may have been ''created'' for Transformers, but he was also created to be ''used'' outside Transformers. Plus, uh, what Kil said.
:::::::My proposal: only issues with Transformers in get their own pages; any other appearances of TF characters and concepts go on a single page for the whole franchise/comic. Doesn't leave anything out, but also doesn't overstep the wiki's bounds. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:44, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Death's Head's legal reality is exactly why he's in those non-Transformers stories in the first place; I don't think he's a good example. I think sticking to things that cannot exist out of a ''Transformers'' context (i.e. the Enigma of Combination, Optimus Prime, etc.) is a okay baseline. The EDC can always serve as a generic "defense against aggressive aliens" organization independent of Transformers, but things like the Matrix can't. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:56, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear. TF-originating non-TF characters and concepts (Spike, EDC, the Enigma, cosmic rust) get very brief mentions within the main bodies of their articles, in proper chronological order in the IDW Fiction sections, with storylinks properly annotated; these storylinks would be redirected to the main non-TF-franchise comic page. IE "storylink|ROM #6" just goes to the ROM comic. ROM (character) does not have any of his own adventures chronicled ever except when he's doing it right next to a Transformer, regardless of title. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:11, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::"Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear." No. A one-panel cameo does not mean we write up the entire issue as its own article. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:34, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::We've got full pages for the non-Transformers Infestation comics and Unit:E, just putting that out there. It's not like covering issues in which Transformers appear is going to lead to people insisting we cover the entirety of okay actually I may be giving the average wiki user too much credit --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:46, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::I'd much rather just lose the full page coverage for Unit E and non-TF Infestation than start giving it to all these new comics. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:49, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::BINGO. It's not before anymore. We live in a very different world than when a lot of this wiki's "standards" were crafted. What worked when TFs was a healthy-yet-niche franchise, perhaps not so much now that it's being used as a tentpole for a lot of other things. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:27, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Disagreed, I guess. I feel like if it's a book by a Hasbro licensee using their Transformers license to use Transformers in the story, it doesn't particularly matter what the name on the book is. Sure, if it's, like, a 1-panel flashback or something we wouldn't even mention otherwise, we can leave it out, but if they have a bigger role, it shouldn't need "The Transformers" on the cover to get a writeup. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 14:23, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::I'm down with "Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear", with the caveat of "except when it's a minor cameo" (i.e. not Megatron showing up in Joe #138 as he's the cliffhanger but like how Nick Fury's making a cameo in TF #3 to go "look this guy's paying attention). Anything else goes in Notes unless & until it explicitly impacts on a Transformers comic, i.e. crossover stories. --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]} 04:05, 8 June 2016 GMT

== "Foreign Names" ==
The original Mandarin names of the Chinese MMO characters are not their "foreign names" and it is factually inaccurate to label them as such. The AVP replacement names are actually the "foreign" ones. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 08:45, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:Wouldn't the same objection apply to [[Ricochet (Headmasters)]] and the entirety of the Unicron Trilogy's characters? Perhaps a change to the title of the section would be appropriate, but I just read the heading as "names in a language other than English". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::UT characters are in a much different position, since they were developed with both the English-speaking audience and the Japanese audience in mind, they weren't created for Japan and then imported elsewhere. I would also note that "Foreign names" isn't used to mean "names in a language other than English" on the Beastformers' articles, which list their English names under that header. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:56, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::What kind of a change would you suggest? Is it a matter of semantics, like we could change the headers to "International names"? Personally, I never thought the "Foreign names" header intimated something suggesting that the names were "secondary", just that we use English language names where appropriate and list the international/foreign ones at the bottom where appropriate. I don't think country of origin ever really factored into it. And we use the Foreign names section even when characters have the same names across languages, but render them in that language's alphabet for ease of reference (admittedly, we've been rather sloppy about that, particularly the similar Foreign localization sections of episodes where sometimes we list a language's info and sometimes we don't). While we could definitely stand to be more complete/precise across the board, I think altering the section titles based on country of origin would only confuse things for casual browsers. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 10:28, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::Honestly the main thing I wanna suggest is un-reverting the changes to the MMO characters back to "Original Mandarin Name" in place of "Foreign name" as that just more accurate, IMO. I also think that if the intent of the wiki is that "Foreign names" be read as "non-English names" then maybe "English" shouldn't actually appear under that header, as it does for Beastformers and Omni Producion dubs. And if "Foreign names" is actually supposed to mean "Names given to character in foreign markets" then should the name given in their ''original'' market actually be under there? Should a character's original name ever be labelled "foreign"? My gut instinct is to say "no" to that. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 11:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::They are foreign to our main readership, which is primarily Americans. That's what it means, regardless of whether the character is a foreign creation. We've had examples like [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet/Stepper]], [[Snowblind|Snowblind/Beacon]], and [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy]] for years. Why is this any different? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:04, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::I don't know! Maybe it isn't! Maybe all characters should always have their original name listed as such instead of just being under the "Foreign names" header! Maybe they shouldn't! Maybe! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::Foreign is always understood as being in relation to the speaker. As this wiki is English speaking, all non-English names are foreign, even if they are the original names for those characters. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:11, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::::Again, if "all non-English name are foreign" then maaaaaaaaybe the word "English" shouldn't be appearing beneath the "Foreign names" header on any articles? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:19, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::::That's a more valid point, though it is mainly used for the Omni Productions dub which is pretty foreign to anything close to English...or good.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:23, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::As we currently have it set up for English/Omni names, it looks like this:

*''English:'' '''Billy''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub), '''Blaster''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub Twincast)

While it seems pretty clear by having the Omni Productions note in parenthesis by the names, maybe it would look better like this?

*''English ([[Omni Productions]] dub):'' '''Billy''' (as Blaster), '''Blaster''' (as Twincast)

Is that better or worse or not even worth the effort? Personally, I don't have a dog in this race; I kinda think things are okay as-is. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 12:35, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:I was walking about the presence of "English" beneath a "Foreign names" header at all if the intended meaning of "Foreign names" is "non-English." So this isn't really addressing that? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:45, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::There isn't really any other good place for these names to go. Unless you want to elevate them to the level of legitimate English variants (like Hot Rod vs Rodimus Prime or Bluestreak vs Silverstreak). I would find it a lot more disturbing to see "Also known as Billy" in Blaster's intro. Oh, and I agree with Speng's new version of the listing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:57, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::Okay, but then, what else could we call it? How else could we catalog that info? Should we put the Omni names at the top of the article alongside the "Sometimes he is known as..." notation at the bottom of the intro? I dunno if anybody would like that. I get what you're saying about having "English" under Foreign names when we default to English as a standard, but I'm not sure of a better way to catalog their Omni names aside from how we have it (English with Omni in parenthesis) (EDIT: Ah, Khajida beat me to the punch by 2 minutes). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 12:59, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::I mean, I suppose just listing "Omni Productions Dub" without the word English next to it would read better? Or listing it's country of origin instead of language, rendering the meaning on "Foreign" as "non-American" rather than "non-English?" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:05, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::The Omni dubs are a very strange situation, though, and probably not something we need to build a whole policy around. Surely if we have a working system in place that reads a little strange in this one case we don't need to revamp everything. We can make some kind of reasonable exception just for Omni and call it a day.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 13:39, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::Right. I think we're digressing from Kil's original complaint. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:38, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

== Striking Unit:E from the record ==

As someone who has been adding a bunch of pages for the newly introduced Hasbro properties that are part of IDW's Revolution, I think we're hitting a bit of a snag: Unit:E.
Unit:E was supposed to spin-out of Prime, which would put it in the Aligned continuity, while all the Revolution stuff is based in G1 continuity. As such, including info on both IDW Action Man and Unit:E Action Man on the same page doesn't make sense (especially when that page was built solely with IDW in mind.) However, this is a Transformers Wiki, and I don't think we need Action Man (IDW) and Action Man (Unit:E)
This kind of thing WILL spiral out of control, and will only get worse with things like G.I. Joe characters (who are all G1 based) and Micronauts (because Acroyear is so different between the two incarnations.)
As such, I propose that we set a precedent to excise ANY Unit:E-based material, with the exception of how it directly relates to the Transformers. Meaning the page on the actual group mentioned in Prime and the comic itself would stay, but unless Transformers were involved, the events aren't referenced. [[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 19:57 15 July 2016 (EST)
:Or we could just leave them on the same pages like we already are now. Don't overcomplicate things. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:27, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
::The way we handle non-Transformers original characters is to keep all appearances together on the same page. So, if Destro shows up in Animated, and again in G1, we don't make two articles. No need for an Action Man (Aligned) and an Action Man (G1) under this scheme. Having them on the same page is a simple and elegant solution. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 20:39, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
:::My issue with Unit:E is that none of the characters actually interact, and the multiversal nature of the story means that the Action Man featured there may not even have Transformers in his own universe, meaning his adventures would fall into the Megaverse, and thus outside this wiki's domain. The Unit:E information is therefore superfluous. Unit:E is also not a Transformers-branded piece of media. Notice we don't record the G.I. Joe events of Infestation. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 20:53 15 July 2015 (EST)
::::Because those issues do not have Transformers in them. Unit:E does, and I'm seriously having a hard time seeing the harm in detailing an one-shot issue that didn't amount to anything and that nobody else will cover. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:57, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::The Unit:E stuff is G1 already though. Arcee, Jazz, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are all seen as distinctly G1 incarnations of those characters. There isn't even a need to consider the fact that one spin-off is G1 and another is Aligned since that's not the case. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 00:40, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

== Aligned characters ==

[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/page-247 As brought up here on the Allspark], is there any momentum to split the RiD2015 incarnations of characters such as [[Grimlock (WFC)]], [[Sideswipe (WFC)]], and [[Kickback (FOC)]]? A highly broken concept as it is, the Aligned continuity family does roughly fit together as one timeline. As the three aforementioned RiD characters quite obviously do not share the looks and personalities of the WfC/FoC characters, I, for one, do not see how to reconcile them as the WfC/FoC characters at a new stage of their lives. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:57, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
:Yeah, I've come around to the idea that they just don't have that much in common between names and altmodes (or, er, robot modes). I vote to split. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 04:52, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
::For the reasons I've laid out on the AllSpark and on Sideswipe (WFC)'s talk page, I also think they should be split. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 07:24, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
:::I also vote split. And just because I think this is a really useful way to conceptualize things, I want to repeat my formulation from the AllSpark thread:
::::''Let me present this little thought experiment. Let's say that the RID 15 guy was named "Trapjaw", an early name for Grimlock. Maybe for copyright reasons, maybe for creative reasons, we don't know specifically. Would we still be inclined to keep the pages merged? This is an issue that has been a part of the Transformers brand since 1984 (see: Jetfire and Skyfire, who do indeed share a page). Shockblasts comfortably share pages with Shockwaves, Silverstreaks with Bluestreaks, Jazzs with Meisters. Likewise, characters since G1 have shared names and yet not been the same characters: Sky High is the earliest example. In this case, take away the name, and is there any reason to keep them merged? If your answer to this question is no, then you should probably be in favor of a split. ''
:::I think this is an abstract enough test to be useful in a variety of cases where there is name reuse but little else. I've tested it against various counterexamples and (BW vs G1 Megatron, Octane and Tankor, various Unicron Trilogy Mini-Con nameslaps, toon vs comic Blaster) and it always seems to produce the 'correct' answer. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:52, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
::::This test is a fantastic measure and one I wholly advocate, but I'll note that this metric places ROTF and AOE Lockdown's merger on relatively shaky footing. Whether that's a good or bad thing is uncertain, but I'd say it's worth it to make sure these RID articles are split. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 08:29, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/?p=3302429 Spectre makes a good point here] about the distinctiveness of Grimlock and Sideswipe. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:26, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

So...absent any complaints or counter-arguments in the next 24 hours, I say we go ahead and begin splitting these three characters. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:38, 5 August 2016 (EDT)
:As much as my vote matters, I agree with splitting them. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 13:04, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

So far what I'm getting from the Allspark thread is that it's highly subjective whether anyone thinks FOC Grimlock and RID Grimlock should share a page because they're both based on G1 Grimlock, or whether the differences between the two characters are enough that they should get separate pages. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:37, 5 August 2016 (EDT)
: Really? I got the sense that there was one guy that really thought they should be together, several people that really thought they should be separate, and a few people who seemed on the fence. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 23:19, 5 August 2016 (EDT)
:: '''Keep''' them merged. Any argument for splitting them is either arbitrary and could be applied to numerous other characters ([[Brawl (Movie)]], [[Vortex (Movie)]], [[Sideswipe (Movie)]], [[Swerve (Movie)]], [[Hound (Movie)]] and [[Lockdown (ROTF)]], to name a few), or based on [[authorial intent]].--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 09:02, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
::: None of those guys have the same problem of irreconcilable fiction and lots of it, and none of them right now have new material coming up on a regular basis. (The only big issue there is Brawl because Titan went "oh uh it's twins" and in practice that's been easy to skim over) --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 14:52, 6 August 2016 (GMT)
::::Yeah, if we'd got any significant fiction for Movie 1 Hound or ROTF Lockdown, I'd argue that they should be split. Hell, I'm still not convinced that the Lockdowns should share a page, but I'm flexible on that. Most of the ones you've brought up, I would think should share a page only because they ''both'' are based on the same vague concept ''and'' don't have large amounts of fiction in contradictory incarnations. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:49, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
:::::I would be up for splitting Brawl, Vortex, Sideswipe, etc though I think it would be unnecessary give how little material their non-screen versions received. But we already have [[Jetfire (Movie)]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)]] split despite the former having no fiction whatsoever. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 12:49, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
::::::I think, fundamentally, what it comes down to me is: ''will splitting help casual fans to understand better/stop them being confused?'' In the case of RID Grimlock, Sideswipe, and probably Kickback, I think that yes, it would. With Movie Hound and Sideswipe and Vortex, there's very little understanding that would be improved by doing so, and would likely just confuse fans searching for "movie Hound", etc. In the case of the Lockdowns, they're arguably the same character by virtue of Q-Transformers, though that's obviously kinda shaky. (And splitting Brawl would be the most unnecessary pedantry in the whole world, damn.) --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:14, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

:: I'd vote to keep them merged, with the stipulation that we add a note of some kind explaining the discrepancy. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 09:02, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

::Split. They're wildly different characters with no visual similarity and aren't based on the same toy (WFC Grimlock not even originally from a toy!) and it means anyone browsing to look up RID Grimlock, the one they most likely will be, atm has to get through a lot of different Grimlock. --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 14:46, 6 August 2016 (GMT)

A lot of what I'm hearing from the "Keep them merged" crowd is that they don't think some of the reasons for splitting are good reasons. Let me flip it around for a minute -- can anyone think of a ''benefit'' to keeping these characters merged? Besides a slippery-slope argument that it may, someday in the future, be used to justify other splits? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:03, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

Split. They're very different characters. And there's no conflict between Hasbro statements and author intent here; the most relevant Hasbro statement is the one that would indicate that FoC and RiD do take place in the same timeline, in which case there can be no "different interpretation of the same characters" between them; characters who cannot be the actual same individual at different times in the same timeline therefore must be different ones with the same name. [[User:NovaSaber|NovaSaber]] ([[User talk:NovaSaber|talk]]) 15:02, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

Can I vote that there should be no blanket policy here, to just evaluate on a case-by-case basis? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 16:33, 6 August 2016 (EDT)
: Absolutely, and seconded. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:45, 6 August 2016 (EDT)

So I count '''Split: 10''' (Xaaron, SHIELD Agent 47, Charles RB, Jim S, Riptide, Sky Shadow, Stealthyboy, NovaSaber, abates, Sabrblade), '''Keep: 2''' (Nevermore, Grum), with no guiding hand from Admin/Owners. Can we go ahead with splitting these three characters, with the understanding that no larger administrative policy is being established, and future cases should still be evaluated on an individual basis? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:42, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
:I mentioned it on the Allspark, but I don't have any particularly strong preference so long it's applied consistently for all the applicable Aligned characters, and not just Grimlock. I do kind of question the sense in still treating Aligned like it's still a single timeline under Squint Test rules, since it seems reasonably certain, between RID Grimlock's existence and the departure of Hasbro folks like Archer, that that concept has been thrown out the window. But I also feel like splitting these characters has benefits in terms of accessibility for the casual user, and I guess that's why I'm not going to vote against – I think I probably would if it felt entirely like meaningless "furniture rearrangement" (as Sipher puts it). I think it's worth putting out one final call for people to 'vote' on the Allspark thread before going ahead with the split. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:19, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
::Also, as a postscript: if the splits do go ahead, links will need updating pretty hasty-like, or else there'll be a hell of a lot of potential for confusion. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:26, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
:::Relinked episodes 1-12 and the main RID series page so far. Moving on to the non-show relinks now. --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 02:00, 8 August 2016 (GMT)
::::Every image and linked-to non-TV-story on Grim's page has been relinked, plus the RID toyline page. Just the rest of the eps and other character's pages to go--[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 02:30, 8 August 2016 (GMT)
:::::Eps and main Autobots relinked--[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 02:50, 8 August 2016 (GMT)
::::::I think I've got all of the remaining articles, so there's just a pile of images with links to the wrong Grimlock in their descriptions. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 07:11, 8 August 2016 (EDT)
:Throwing my vote in while I still can. I said it on The Allspark an will say it here that I'm in favor of splitting the Grimlock, Sideswipe, and Kickback articles. Although... [[Blurr (Prime)]] might be a fourth contender for splitting as well, but I'm not as eager to see that one split as the other three, so I won't fight for that one as much if enough people object to splitting the Blurr page. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:27, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
::Hrm. Yeah, I'd say split the Blurrs, too. They've really only got "car what goes fast" in common, and really, what ''else'' is a bot called Blurr going to turn into? With that one in particular, they're so different that there's no way to reconcile them for an opening paragraph other than the faux-narrative of "first he was this, then he was this". --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 14:38, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
:I'm actually in favour of split. Not sure I'm particularly worried about Kickback, but Grimlock and Sideswipe definitely. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:34, 7 August 2016 (EDT)
Starting on Sideswipe now. Though, come to think of it, is it necessary to title ''Robots in Disguise'' Sideswipe at "Sideswipe (RID 2015)" since the 2001 guy has a space in his name? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:15, 8 August 2016 (EDT)
::No, strictly speaking it wouldn't need the 2015, though it's probably a case where an argument could be made for making an exception? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 12:36, 8 August 2016 (EDT)

== Generations toyline page ==

A thought: do the ''Combiner Wars'' and ''Titans Return'' sublines merit their own pages? The [[Transformers: Generations|''Generations'' page]] has exceeded the length of even the [[The Transformers (toyline)|U.S. G1 toyline page]], and barring some unforeseen financial disaster at Hasbro, we know that the Prime Wars Trilogy will get another entry after ''Titans Return''. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:28, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
:I agree. Given how the "''Combiner Wars''" and "''Titans Return''" names overshadow the "''Generations''" name on the packaging, I think we should give them their own page. The fact that each also has a [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|franchise]] [[Titans Return (franchise)|page]] I think warrants this expansion. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 August 2016 (EDT)
:I'm on board with that.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 06:27, 15 August 2016 (EDT)
::Given that Combiner Wars, Titans Return and the next line are under the "Prime Wars" umbrella, maybe we should make a Prime Wars subpage for Generations, similar to the way certain character pages have a separate Toys page, and put the toys in those three lines on that page.[[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 17:10, 18 August 2016 (EDT)

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2016-08-18T21:10:21Z

Stealthyboy: /* Generations toyline page */

The Duel

2016-08-18T21:00:11Z

Stealthyboy:

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|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''
|prev=The Council
|next=
|image= TheDuel Windblade and Optimus Prime.jpg
|caption=
|title="The Duel"
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]], [[Machinima]]
|written by=[[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]]
|executive producer=
|airdate=[[August 16]], 2016}}

'''It's time to D-D-D-D-DUEL!'''

==Synopsis==
After a tense stare-down, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] breaking [[Maxima]]'s rifle is the trigger that sends [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] charging at the former [[Autobot]] leader, but he easily side-steps her sword. Prime reveals that he has been tracking the [[Cityspeaker]] since receiving a transmission from [[Computron (G1)|Computron]], but Windblade has no time for his words, and renews her furious assault. Continuing to simply dodge her attacks, without retaliating, Optimus asks why she fired upon the Council, and is met with a tirade of anger against Autobots, [[Decepticon]]s, and [[Combiner]]s alike.

Prime insists that his Autobots always fought for a good cause, and that he cannot allow the murder of a Council member. After another failed attack, Windblade reveals that she had not been trying to kill [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and that her true agenda is to deal with the problem of the Combiners. As she powers up her turbines to blow Prime away, the Autobot finally deploys his axe, fending off the sword strike that follows and disarming Windblade.

As the Cityspeaker lies exhausted, Optimus implores her to return home so as to avoid beginning another war, but her revelation that the Council possesses the [[Enigma of Combination]] changes his tune. Acknowledging that all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is in danger from the artifact, the Autobot leader declares that they must seek the help of the one person possessing sufficient firepower to destroy it...

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (1)

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (2)
}}

==Quotes==

"Why are you trying to kill Starscream?"

"I'd like to kill every ONE of you!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Windblade''' calmly discuss matters.

"I wasn't trying to kill Starscream"
:—'''Windblade''' suffers from split personality disorder

==Notes==

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_3284b04d4fb74ea584af0b9dece19200 "The Duel" on go90] (US only)
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNyhC-cDTE4 "The Duel" on YouTube] (non-US only)

{{DEFAULTSORT:Duel}}
[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

The Duel

2016-08-18T20:59:20Z

Stealthyboy:

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''
|prev=The Council
|next=
|image= TheDuel Windblade and Optimus Prime.jpg
|caption=
|title="The Duel"
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]], [[Machinima]]
|written by=[[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]]
|executive producer=
|airdate=[[August 16]], 2016}}

'''It's time to D-D-D-D-DUEL!'''

==Synopsis==
After a tense stare-down, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] breaking [[Maxima]]'s rifle is the trigger that sends [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] charging at the former [[Autobot]] leader, but he easily side-steps her sword. Prime reveals that he has been tracking the [[Cityspeaker]] since receiving a transmission from [[Computron (G1)|Computron]], but Windblade has no time for his words, and renews her furious assault. Continuing to simply dodge her attacks, without retaliating, Optimus asks why she fired upon the Council, and is met with a tirade of anger against Autobots, [[Decepticon]]s, and [[Combiner]]s alike.

Prime insists that his Autobots always fought for a good cause, and that he cannot allow the murder of a Council member. After another failed attack, Windblade reveals that she had not been trying to kill [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and that her true agenda is to deal with the problem of the Combiners. As she powers up her turbines to blow Prime away, the Autobot finally deploys his axe, fending off the sword strike that follows and disarming Windblade.

As the Cityspeaker lies exhausted, Optimus implores her to return home so as to avoid beginning another war, but her revelation that the Council possesses the [[Enigma of Combination]] changes his tune. Acknowledging that all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is in danger from the artifact, the Autobot leader declares that they must seek the help of the one person possessing sufficient firepower to destroy it...

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (1)

|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (2)
}}

==Quotes==

"Why are you trying to kill Starscream?"
"I'd like to kill every ONE of you!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Windblade''' calmly discuss matters.

"I wasn't trying to kill Starscream"
:—'''Windblade''' suffers from split personality disorder

==Notes==

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_3284b04d4fb74ea584af0b9dece19200 "The Duel" on go90] (US only)
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNyhC-cDTE4 "The Duel" on YouTube] (non-US only)

{{DEFAULTSORT:Duel}}
[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)

2016-08-13T08:14:53Z

Stealthyboy:

{{Nav-CombinerWars}}
[[File:CW-WebSeriesPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
'''Transformers: Combiner Wars''' is an animated web series set to premiere on August 2, 2016. The series, co-produced by [[Machinima]] and [[Hasbro Studios]], is targeted at older audiences, and ties into the concurrent ''Combiner Wars'' imprint. <ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-transformers-animated-series-807464]</ref> The series itself will be run by [[Eric S. Calderon]], [[George Krstic]], and [[F.J. DeSanto]].<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/09/21/transformers-combiner-wars-animated-digital-series-creators-revealed-301653]</ref>

As of January 31st, 2016, the scripts for the first seven episodes have been finalized, according to Machinima.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/machinima-transformers-combiner-wars-final-script-complete/34656/]</ref> On June 23, screenshots from the series were released<ref>[http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/22/transformers-combiner-wars-show-photos?iid=sr-link6]</ref>, and a prelude trailer was released on June 28.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformers/videos/1072571896146337/]</ref> The series debuted August 2 on the [[go90]] platform in the US (don't worry, it's free). Viewers outside the US can see it on Machinima's youtube channel.

==Overview==
Forty years after the conclusion of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Earth]], the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s are no more and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are relics of the past. Cybertron is at last at peace, ruled by the triumvirate of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], and the [[Mistress of Flame]]. However, the [[Enigma of Combination]], an ancient [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifact]] of [[Primus]], has triggered new conflict through the creation of huge, dangerous [[Combiner]]s, and now Cybertron's fragile peace is in danger of collapse.

==Cast==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Jon Bailey]])
*[[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] ([[Ben Pronsky]])
*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]] ([[Ricky Hayberg]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[Jason Marnocha]])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Frank Todaro]])
*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] ([[Charlie Guzman]])
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] ([[Patrick Seitz]])
|c4=
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] ([[Abby Trott]])
*[[Victorion]] ([[Anna Akana]])
*[[Mistress of Flame]] ([[Lana McKissack]])
*[[Maxima]] ([[Amy Johnston]])
}}

==Episodes==
===Preludes===
{{collist|2|
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Victorion|Victorion]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Starscream|Starscream]]
# [[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Windblade|Windblade]]
}}
===Main episodes===
{{collist|2|
# [[The Fall]]
# [[The Council]]
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Combiner Wars]]
[[Category:Media]]

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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]
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==Gobots Sister Wiki Progress==
Has anyone ever made any progress on the Gobots sister wiki? I have no experience in creating wikis, but would love to see this get made. -[[User:Halfshell25|Halfshell25]] ([[User talk:Halfshell25|talk]]) 19:21, 22 June 2016 (EDT)

== Template proposal ==

I'm getting really sick of cleaning up fiction note templates, so, hey, here's an idea. Every single one from now on has to actually be brought up here before the community before it's implemented and not done willy-nilly by one person or a small group of editors. I realize that, as a wiki, we are going to inherently have continuity boners, but the recent trend of drowning character pages in notes is annoying and intrusive. The idea that we need to mention every point of continuity minutiae even in articles like fucking [[universal greeting]] is obnoxious and needs to ''stop''. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:13, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:I agree. Things like "Regeneration One is a continuation of the Marvel Comics continuity" don't need to be in the middle of character write-ups. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:30, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::The Marvel thing is a unique case that at least is relevant to character write ups—it tells readers that the Marvel UK stuff mixed into the Marvel US stuff doesn't count. (Of course, this only applies to articles that actually have sections for the original Marvel comics.) The text in the notes could stand to be trimmed down, though. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::Do you have some other examples of unnecessary notes we could discuss specifically? I caught the 2001 Car Robots note you mentioned from [[universal greeting]], and I agree it's pointless unless there's actually an RiD vs. CR distinction to be made. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::Wings, Classics, RG1 on pages without the continuity they're referring to. Ask Vector Prime. I'm bringing this up now because we need to develop a better way of vetting templates that are theoretically going to be used on many pages. One or two "yes" reponses on some hidden talk page most people don't notice shouldn't be used as a community-wide consensus on things that dramatically alter the reading experience across multiple pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::And looking at the other stuff we have, Template:Notecmn could easily be made as part of the actual prose and flow more naturally that way, for example. ("In a divergent timeline, blahblah"). [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:17, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::And there's [[:Template:Notemoviebio]], which explains what is a regular occurrence in all of Transformers fiction for no real reason. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:19, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::A similar one is [[:Template:Notetitantlg]], which I tried to make pointless when we overhauled the movie character pages a while back and which I think we ditched ''most'' uses of, but is still out there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:22, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::Not quite the same situation, but I'd like to chime in that I'm not a big fan of [[:Template:ongoing]]. Most of the time, editors completely forget to include it on the appropriate sections, it reiterates something that's obvious ("if there's information missing here, you should add it.") and it's a note that only gets put up so that it can be eventually be taken down. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:27, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::::I agree that it's quite useless when we already have stub templates. Either information is missing or it isn't and people just leave it up on pages that really don't need it because it's not that noticeable. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:33, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::::Ehhhhhn. I'm willing to let "ongoing" live, as, well, there's a TON of "dead" fictions and only a few currently-updating ones, and letting people know which ones are likely to actually ''continue'' and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative. "Stub" can mean "it came out already and no-one's bothered yet", which is... different than "this cuts off because the scheduled continuation hasn't come out yet". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 08:12, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::Also, if you find yourself overburdened with certain tasks, don't be afraid to ask for help. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:08, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Thanks for taking care of the CR note. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::No prob. As for the RG1 note, I agree that it would look nicer as a single line of text. I'm having difficulty reducing it in length without leaving out something crucial though. I'm putting it on the back-burner for now, but I'll keep it in mind. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:18, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::Tried cutting it down a bit. The G2 bit was redundant. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::::::::Ah yes. Much better. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::::Yeah, that's equally informative, but also far less intrusive. Nice work, Saix -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
I just wanna say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks we have too many goddamned templates. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:03, 8 January 2016 (EST)

Two templates for discussion: Template:TransformersComicMagazin and [[:Template:GIJoeTransformersfiction]]. Necessary or not? I feel like the former states what's already obvious by the fact that it's in its own section ("Comic-Magazin is not Marvel"), while I dunno about the latter. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:43, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:Transformers Magazin could probably be done without. The {Gi joe transformers fiction} one, on the other hand, should probably be kept. With the way we use the {noteukonly} and generally treat the US and UK comics, I feel that we kinda need to point out "hey, unlike just about everything else from Marvel US, ''this'' doesn't actually fit into the Marvel UK 'verse." -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:53, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::The Joe one is terrible. It's just plopped into the middle of fiction write-ups with no specification as to what text it refers to. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 16:04, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, I can understand the ''purpose'', but the execution just doesn't work at all. And I don't think it belongs on the issue pages. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:06, 8 January 2016 (EST)
===Collapsable continuity notes?===
I don't do much fiction-section work anymore, but if I can identify part of the problem ''with the fiction itself''... unlike most franchises, TFs has a metric fuckton of "major" divergent splinter timelines. I mean, how many different Marvel G1 comic timeline spinoffs do we have now that don't actually relate to each other? It can be difficult at first look of a page to tell the difference between a series of proper, one-timeline sequel-series and, well, the clusterfuck that is post-Marvel-G1-related stuff branching out like a hydra. So I'm loathe to just run with the "well everyone reading thew wiki should know this" mentality.<br>
So, can see ''why'' the templates began, but when we started getting more and more branches? A bit out of hand. And worse, it's not quite a thing the base wiki organization tools are good at adapting and making obvious. (Frankly I find it tricky to tell sometimes the difference between a <nowiki>===</nowiki>-subsection and a <nowiki>====</nowiki>-subsection, but that's another quibble for later).<br>
I think a good amount of this can be mitigated with some creative rewriting of the sections' openings, "ten years after the battle of Klo" or whatnot. And certainly that doesn't even need to be brought up if it's just a one-off page of a piece of minor technology from one issue of a spinoff. But for larger pages with a buttload of timeline-fragments?<br>
We might want to look into collapsible Notes. Just a single template that can be adapted not just for this, but, well, for anything. Whack it up top, collapsed, have it say "Continuity Note: (more)" (not as a default), then people can click on it and see "well this continuity branches off from blardeeblar and has no relation to blardeeblar". This way the clutter is minimal, the information on our confusing mess of fiction is right at the fingertips.<br>
Just a thought.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:This sounds useful. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 8 January 2016 (EST)

:I love this idea. Collapsable notes could solve a lot of the problems we've been having with the templates as of late. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:12, 8 January 2016 (EST)

:I just took a brief look at the voiceactor template, since that does basically what I'm looking at, and even that template's workings are beyond my ability to understand and adapt into a collapsible Note. So um. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:26, 8 January 2016 (EST)

::It depends how you want it to work. Something like <nowiki>{{cnote|text 1|text 2}}</nowiki> to produce:
<div class="tt1_graynote">text 1 <span class="ocreditspan">text 2</span></div>
::Or just <nowiki>{{cnote|text 1}}</nowiki> and
<div class="tt1_graynote"><span class="ocreditspan">text 1</span></div>
::It wouldn't be difficult to knock either of those templates up --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)
:::Expanding off of what Emvee posted here, I've worked up a collapsible note template which can display a custom header, custom visible text and hideable text that is either custom or derived from a preset name. The first draft, examples and documentation can be found here: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Template:CollapseNote]]. All critiques are welcome. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 18:50, 9 January 2016 (EST)
::::Is there a way to put that in a gray box so it matches with the rest of our Notes? I think this has legs. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:49, 9 January 2016 (EST)
:::::D'oh! There is. In fact, I actually did have the box but the CSS for it is only available in my personal CSS file at the moment. I'll go integrate that into the template itself for now, then once this is approved maybe it can be moved to a site wide CSS file to reduce template clutter.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:40, 10 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Okay, the CSS is now included in the template so users besides myself can see the gray box. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 01:50, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I love it. Nice work, Tigerpaw. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 03:37, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::Seconded, good stuff. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 04:16, 10 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I'll stick the css in the common file when everyone's happy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:29, 10 January 2016 (EST)

Speaking of notes and templates, can we also scrub the IDW notes that say ''"[[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]] was shorter than it should've been because [[Simon Furman]] was fired."'' and the Dreamwave notes that say ''"Because Dreamwave collapsed, plot threads were left dangling."''...unless those notes are ''specifically'' contributing something to the character's page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:53, 15 January 2016 (EST)
:I'd say yes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:16, 15 January 2016 (EST)

== More Prominence for IDW ==

I'm going to propose a change, because the above discussion reminded me of something I find annoying -- the position of IDW in the Fiction sections. At this point, I believe IDW is the longest running continuous fiction in Transformers history. Yet while the 30 year cartoon and Marvel Comic are easy to pick out due to their position at the top or their multitude of subcategories, IDW is typically found near the bottom of the list, nestled in between Japanese micro-continuities, Sticker Adventures and, god help us, ''The Beast Within''.<br><br>
Is there a better configuration we could work with? I'd be supportive of a "Major Fiction" and "Minor Fiction" breakdown for the traditional "Fiction" section, if we could all peacefully agree to what counts as Major and Minor. Another thought I had was to do away with the ''Ongoing Fiction Template'', and just have "Ongoing Fiction" automatically at the top and "Previous Fiction" underneath.<br><br>
Any of this sound worth looking into more? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)
: Absolutely friggin' not, never or ever. Organizing fiction due to perceived prominence is counter to the very spirit this wiki was founded on. (It's also amazingly subjective and would be a headache to argue over indefinitely.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:36, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Wasn't that the point of changing the disambiguation pages though? So that the more prominent stuff was at the top and had pictures to help people? [[User:Omegatron|omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::That kind of potential slippery-sloping was why I had misgivings about that change in the first place. But Disambig pages are navigation pages, and articles are not, and I have faith that we can recognize the different needs for pages according to their utility and not just make everything the same just because it makes our brains feel superficially happier. But let me put it this way: Imagine Grapple's page. In a "we put IDW first because it's important" world, a dinky subsection in which he appears in the background twice is given precedence over a Big Looker storybook in which he is a major character. IDW isn't always super important to a character's page just because its fiction's gone on a decade! And here's the kicker -- for those folks who've appeared a buttload in IDW, those sections are split off into their own subpages and navigation at the very top of the page leads you right there, effectively already giving everyone this proposed functionality. And without losing the information of real-world chronological release order that levels the canonicity playing field, I might add. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Right. The disambiguation page thing wasn't something brought up on a whim. It's not a thing I'd propose for any other "type" of page, because disambig pages serve a different purpose than almost every other. That requires some special consideration. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:15, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:No, no, no, no and no, with a side order of no and no for dessert. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:Just throwing this out there as an alternative suggestion to moving the sections around: what do people think of the idea of bolding major sections in the table of contents, so for Optimus you'd end up with something [[:File:Contents bold test.jpg|like this]]. For the sake of preventing arguments we'd reserve it for the really prominent G1 continuities (G1 and BW cartoons, Marvel, IDW and possibly Dreamwave comics), since it's not generally a problem for other continuity families. I'm thinking this could be done very simply in CSS without having to edit a ton of pages, though it would mean that characters with only an IDW fiction section would have it bolded in their contents listing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::That's got some potential, I think. I don't think single-fiction character with bold in their TOC would be a problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:48, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:This ties into an old proposal from way back that I'd also found in my Community Portal re-read, and was brought up on Allspark (and I'd briefly mentioned here recently); the visual differences between subheaders are really quite minimal. It's hard to tell at a look where one continuity-line ends and the other begins. there's got to be something we can do just '''''visually''''' to make these divisions easier to identify by sight. Can we make the header-text for continuity-breaks centered? If we wanna get fancy, can we make a graphic the header? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:47, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Okay, apparently you [[User:M_Sipher/Sandbox:Fiction_header_experiment|CAN center section headers]]. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Did some experimenting and [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox|found a way to do this]]. Requires a little bit of HTML/CSS inside the header but easily doable I think. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 23:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::Since the initial concern, at least, was IDW, can someone sandbox a G1 character with an IDW section to see how that might look? [[Pipes (G1)]] seems like a good candidate, since he's got a good-sized IDW section that also isn't so big it should just be a subpage. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:13, 12 January 2016 (EST)

I've grown pretty iffy on using images as headers, honestly. There's a lotta "standalone" timelines that don't really have logos and having only SOME major headers be logo images... ehhhhhn. Might be best to just stick with text, maybe a thin bar above, with a wiki-wide change to a thicker tier-1-header-bar. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:12, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Actually? Second thoughts, no. This would likely start too many arguments. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:05, 13 January 2016 (EST)

Another proposal after I had a thought just now: [[:File:H3 dashed overlines.jpg|dashed overlines]]. The difference should be enough to differentiate from the underlines on h2s, and they nicely group together related stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:46, 26 January 2016 (EST)

==The Goal Of The Wiki==
(slight editing of something I posted to the Allspark's wiki thread)

A little while back I decided to rummage through the Community Portal archives... from the beginning. The earliest stages, when we were hammering out how to lay out the damn pages, what we should disambiguate by, etc. Saw the suggestions for making information more readily-accessible (character appearance tables, the GO! Box, the navigation templates), the "common wiki" practices we rejected because they just could not apply to this franchise (character infoboxes, for example, thanks to the many many many bodies the characters could have), up through the big move away from Wikia when they started really fucking us over with their ads.

And during that lonnnnng string of arguments with Wikia staff, when we tried (repeatedly) to explain why this "only not-signed-in readers will see the ads so why are you complaining since you don't see the page-ruining ads see this will somehow make money!" thing was utter bullshit...

:''"We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers."''

Re-read that. '''''RE-FUCKING-READ THAT.'''''

The wiki lost that mentality somewhere. At some point in the last few years, the wiki stopped being about the readers, what would make the vast ocean of material accessible and entertaining to them. It became a micro-minutia-based circlejerk. It became editors confusing anal-retentive busywork (based on the strictest interpretation of rules that always were meant to be applied with a slight degree of malleability because our subject matter absolutely HAS to be handled that way) with productive and useful updating. And with the advent of the Facebook AVP, it became "gee now I can make Real Transformers wheeeeee" with even more micro-minutia and bad-faith gaming of the canon policy that was originally meant to give equal space to the obscure so we wouldn't have the "prominence = more deserving" mentality (plus stuff very specifically made to create circumstances to middle-finger policies that have served us well for a decade prior).

Thus, people who've worked for a decade to make the wiki something huge and special and a wiki other fandoms look at and go "holy shit, we need something like this" find themselves frustrated and edging away as the spirit of the whole thing turns into this sour, solipsistic nigh-gatekeepery up-its-own-ass wank festival, especially when certain subjects just won't. Goddamn. STOP.

From one of our newest regulars:

:''"Hell, I've only had to deal with one day of GoBots discussion and I'm already sick of it! I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to deal with this shit on multiple different occasions over the course of several years, but I bet it's unpleasant."''

So when I see "hey why don't we move IDW sections up because I think it's more important" or "why don't we rename every character in the Japanese-fiction writeups to their Japanese names", yeah, I'm gonna respond harsher because it's kind of hit that point where we have to start bringing the hammer down hard to keep this thing even remotely accessible to anyone who isn't fully engaged in the minutia of TFdom.

I think wiki editors (and others) need to stop and have a good think about WHY they're doing what they're doing, and who they're actually doing it for, and, ultimately, if they should actually be doing it.

There's an important difference between "can" and "should", and too many don't see it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:''look i already apologised for the japanese name thing okay''
:Well, said, though, and you've given me something to think about. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)

:...Yeah, I'm taking exception to this.

:Because of recent events, I wasn't expecting anyone to jump for joy, but this is a bit much. First of all, "''hey why don't we move IDW sections up because I think it's more important''" is reductive and dismissive to the facts on the table and the argument I presented. IDW being "ongoing fiction" isn't my subjective opinion, it's a fact. It's also the longest running mass-market fiction not only ongoing right now, but also in Transformers history. So I'm not some weebo saying, "I like Japan, so other people must want Japan to be more prominent, too." (no offense, Riptide -- just for the argument) We were discussing a case of ''factual'' prominence, not the "perceived prominence" just inside my own silly head.

:And I don't need ''"We create the content on this wiki FOR casual readers."'' repeated back to me because it was you, M "Not lovin' this idea" Sipher I was thinking of, saying those very words, which made me think this was a good idea.

:Maybe we have different ideas about what casual readers are, but I think of them as new/returning fans who came here because of some ongoing fiction they just saw, and might like to learn more about. If they're watching ''Robots in Disguise'' or ''Rescue Bots'', that's cool -- most of those character pages are traceable by (RID) or (RB) disambigs, which is simple enough to figure out. And their Fiction box sections are (mostly) minimal enough to glance over and find what you wanted.

:But what about the comics? Well, first they have to know IDW is Generation 1, which isn't exactly on the cover of the comics. Then they have to know the Fiction section on a character's page is organized by release date. You and I know that, but is that rule actually posted in a FAQ somewhere so we could expect a casual reader to know it? The way Sunbow and Marvel subdivide on most pages, a casual reader could be forgiven for thinking the most prominent stuff is ''already'' on the top. And even assuming they're visiting the Wiki on a full-screen computer and not a mobile device, for the 1987 guys or earlier "IDW Generation 1 continuity" is likely going to be "below the fold". And if you made it to the end of this paragraph thinking TL;DR, imagine the casual reader going through this in real time. THAT was who I was thinking of when I suggested the Ongoing Fiction content that the casual reader might be looking for when they come here ''be easier to find somehow''.

:I'm not ''trying'' to throw your words back at you, M Sipher, but again it honestly was a post you made this week defending the Ongoing Fiction Template that made me think of this. You said, "''letting people know which ones are likely to actually continue and not just be a storyline dead-end is at least marginally informative''". But the current razor-thin, World's Smallest Template Note doesn't really accomplish that. A casual reader may stumble across it by accident, if they squint, or they'll find it if they're already looking for it, but that's it. Floating Ongoing Fiction to the top of the Fiction sections negates the need for the template, lets new readers find what they were most likely looking for more easily, and those Fictions can just as easily be shuffled back down into 'release date order "dead" fiction' once they are no longer ongoing.

:If this was a bad idea, fine. But maybe you could provide me a definition of "casual reader friendly", because obviously my ''WWMSD?'' bracelet doesn't help when I'm too stupid to know the answer. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:09, 12 January 2016 (EST)

::There's a Table of Contents at the top of just about every character page. The wiki software even ''automatically'' makes a TOC if a page has enough subsections. That TOC has "IDW continuity" in it, which links directly to said subsection. Easy.
::Your proposal is nothing but arguments waiting to happen over what's "more important", to become more arguments over which "more important" fiction takes prominenece over the other "more important" (comics or cartoons?) with no actual ''benefit''. It is furniture-shuffling. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:19, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Not to put words in Sipher's mouth, but I don't think the main idea he's putting across is ''really'' about your proposal, Xaaron, you've just said it at a moment in time in which we are seeing a lot of what Sipher describes (but trying to dub something "more important" ''will'' lead to arguments - I remember way back when when people would complain we were putting the Marvel comic ahead of the cartoon). To repost something I've also said on the Allspark - which I don't consider to relate to your proposal, Xaaron - I have been saying for a long time in private conversation what Sipher is saying now, and several months ago, I tried to explain how we're basically responsible for breeding this attitude into our readers. It's the same attitude that caused the AVP brouhaha - we are seeing editors now openly state that the wiki has been a gateway to a lot of this stuff for them, and that they have fixated on the minutiae and the continuity-fondling, which is such a small part of what Transformers, and the wiki, is about that it's the wrong lesson to come away with. Wiki projects ATTRACT those with mindsets focused on categorization, organization, and pattern-observation. It took years before we had editors who were able to reconcile that way of thinking with our "and also fun!" approach, but they now exist, and are more interested in trying to make sure all the headers are precisely the same, that everything is in exactly the right continuity-order and header-structure and category, that all the disambigs are exact - that absolutely everything fits into its little imaginary box, and that nothing breaks the rules by coming out of its box unless there's a seventeen-week debate about it first. ORGANIZATION IS IMPORTANT, but - with the greatest of actual respect to our new editors, because it is thankless hugging busywork and its impressive that you're dedicated to it - as Sipher says, this "moving of the furniture" is all that newer-guard editors actually seem to want to do, or to be capable of doing. It's very, very easy to paste a one-or-two sentence nugget of information from AVP into the wiki, which is why so many people do it and why it got so out of control - but you don't see anyone falling over themselves to add Spacewarp's Log stuff, even before the two-week delay, because it's not presented in nugget form, it's a piece of prose that you'd actually have to - shock, horror - read and summarize, and - oh christ no - it's NOT full of references to pre-existing things so you can't just paste it into existing articles or throw the AVP stub template in. When - just for a recent example - I can go to the article of a major character like Ironhide or Thundercracker and still find tons of material that needs filling in, that says "it doesn't matter that it's been ten years, there is a lot more important work to do than making sure that header is a level 2 or a level 3 one." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 13:32, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::I just want to be clear that people who take the time to do "busywork" like, say, fixing links so they no longer lead to a redirect page are ''unquestionably welcome to''. That's good, that has a tangible benefit to our wiki (reducing server load). That kind of "busywork" is ''absolutely'' okay. It's the seemingly-endless stream of talks about reorganizing hundreds of pages, arguments over disambigs, and yeah, the "easy" trivia-nugget work that's grinding here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 14:01, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:I get the concern over the AVP-inspired editors, and even counseled Giggidy about this very issue above. In hindsight, I probably should've waited for the dust to settle more on the GoBots matter before suggesting something similar for different reasons, but like I said, the idea was sparked by the above discussion about the Ongoing Template.
:And I completely agree that a Major/Minor Fiction split would likely lead to more arguments than benefits, which is why I also proposed Ongoing/Not Ongoing. That's completely binary and objective. It's not subject to debate over which fiction is "More Ongoing" than another.
:I agree that the IDW links above the main character images remove any need for my proposal...for the characters who have them. My concern rested with characters like Jazz or Soundwave who do not have IDW subpages, and that continuity is 21 or 24 listings down on their Fiction TOCs, nestled between things like ''Q-Robo'' and ''Henkei! Henkei!''. But, as I believe Chip suggested on the Allspark, a way to resolve all this is to just be more lenient with allowing IDW subpages in the first place. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:31, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::I too proposed that. Is there a specific reason why that tab system isn't more prominent. Heck, maybe it would even work for stuff like the Marvel and Sunbow cartoons. Those tabs are a simple and brilliant way to get our readers to what they are looking for. A casual coming here after googling say "Prowl Transformers" needs to be sent to were they need to be efficiently as possible. A page tab on his page header right at the top with IDW staring you in the face ks a good solution that doesn't deal with any of the parliamentary bojangling that's been such a hot topic lately[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 01:25, 14 January 2016 (EST)

==Continuity Stream Bullshit==
I suggested this on the Allspark, and there's some momentum for it so I'll put it here.

As M Sipher said above, arbitrary furniture movement is bad. That said, all the continuity stream minutae is even worse, and serves only to bloat our pagecount with duplicated information in articles that will only ever be stubs forever. Why do both [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] and [[The Transformers (issue)]] exist? Or [[Marvel Comics continuity]] if you think the continuity is more important than what the Universal Stream indicator actually decodes to, although if there weren't significant opposition I'd argue that since the stream encoding to a piece of fiction is a 1:1 mapping that we should respect that directly.

Since a Universal Stream page will not contain any useful information other than its actual stream indicator (and VERY occasionally some detail such as "this universe is destroying another one"), I'd like to propose that all universal stream pages either be redirected to the actual single piece of fiction that the stream indicator decodes to, or to the Continuity timeline page that best describes it - and somewhere on **that** page we try and find a place for the universal stream number. Perhaps in the same fashion we originally handled alternate names - directly below the introductory paragraph, in bold?

If this causes problems, feel free to disregard... but I've heard enough discontent about the matter and there's been enough push for it there that I feel confident enough to put my next foot forward on this happening. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:32, 13 January 2016 (EST)

My proposal is that rather than stream pages, major continuities would all get pages. a Marvel g1 universe page, a sunbow cartoon universe a Classicsverse page and so on. Then, stream numbers used in universe would be redirect to those pages. Minor streams would get redirected to the current list pages we have now; AVP additions to minor streams would go in notes on the works main page. (For example, Ulchtar would go in the notes of that videogame)[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:51, 13 January 2016 (EST)

I just noted that the already existing Universal Stream pages could be converted into continuity pages in some instances , http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Classicsverse could be simply renamed "Classics Continuity/Universe" for example[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 11:07, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I'm not seeing how universal streams are logically any different than random crap namedropped without context in stories all the time. [[Pralmtzurlz VI]], [[Vaulted Heights of K'th Kinsere]], and [[Payload of General Frightening]] have less content than most universe pages. There also isn't really a way to effectively have real-world information and then fictional universe information on the same article; [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]] isn't going to look any better if you put all of the [[To Die Game!]] stuff on it. (Primax 984.0 Gamma is also not limited to "The Transformers", so, uh, what?) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::The difference is those pages are not wholly redundant. For example, yeah, maybe the city "Gygax" only got mentioned offhand in one story. But as it gets a page, it goes in the Category listing of "Cybertron cities" (or whatever it's actually called) and then when, oh, say, a TV cartoon writer wants to look up cities for references...
::In other words, BAM, the whole reason we did this wiki. The obscure was given an outlet, and it got used again. And this is far from the only instance.
::But this is not a functionality that serves any real purpose for the named Streams. You need to know the code to make any sense of them, at which point you can easily make up a code for any piece of fiction that exists. And ''every piece of Transformers fiction that exists IS canonically its own universe'', '''''and''''' simultaneously wholly-subsumed parts of other universes, because of quantum (read: pseudoscience arglebargle translation of a meta-based concept with no real defined rules because we, and I literally mean WE as in me and Trent, made it all up and jesus on a tilt-a-whirl some people think way too hard and too rigidly about this). All these pages do is create a hoop for people to jump through unnecessarily. We don't need the pagecount bloat.
::If people are REALLY concerned about stuff not from, say, that one storybook that some FunPub gag-strip or Facebook post placed some wacky new event, then there is a simple solution. NOTES SECTION. One bullet point is really all you need in the overwhelming majority of cases. Something else, a subsection under notes called, oh, "Use in Other Fictions" will cover it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:49, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, the "club fiction adds a bunch of stuff to some random micro-continuity" scenario is really the only one where the stream pages are even remotely good for anything - the Shell Game/Megazarak universe springs to mind - and in those cases it is potentially useful to have the info from a bunch of separate AVP things (or whatever) collected. But as you say, Sipher, that kind of thing could happily live in the notes section of the fiction article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::::From a group complaining about "moving the furniture around", there sure have been a lot of suggestions recently about deleting a lot of pages and taking all the info in them and putting them onto slightly harder-to-find pages. I'm not even sure I have an opinion on this proposal, but the observation struck me as odd. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Context is important, and the context here is bandwidth issues and reader experience. Those are fucking important. Every time we bounce a reader to another page, that's another tick on our sever, and these pages are, as noted, almost wholly redundant info when we could send them to a page that has the whole thing. And you're gonna sit there and claim that a listing of made-up words and number gibberish is somehow easier for a reader to use than just putting the relevant information on a page titled in plain English they're ''vastly'' more likely to find on their own. Okay, sure, whatever. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:17, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I think at the very least, there's little reason to argue that stream indicators for major continuities shouldn't just redirect to the continuity page, i.e. [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] to [[Marvel Comics continuity]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:35, 13 January 2016 (EST)

::Let me put this another way... the stream pages feel akin to having a page for "Khrapovik" then listing only the things ''Prime'' Ratchet did in the Russian comics on it. Again, ''technically'' a different universe, sure, but it's part of the bigger universe and splitting it out really only obfuscates info in the name of pedantry, and it's just better off folding it into the main. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:09, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::: That makes a lot of sense to me. This might be one of those situations where we want to use flexibility. If there is a continuity page that already exists, maybe the redirect goes there and we have a fiction section. If there's a universal stream and little else, maybe that can just go away. And if there's a lot of information about the stream, maybe we just keep it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)
::So should we start compiling solutions for wn eventual vote. I'm behind the idea of replacing stream pages with pages for the continuity. In fact I think a good way to deal with extra Avp infor is to use are already existing arrow system. Thede added storiee are just like,say Regeneration One added to the end of Marvel US in a way, so for example. Mystery of the Convoy would get an arrow that goes to To Die Game, Shell Game would get an extra a avp write up detail.

But over all I am for us having Continuity pages instead of streams. Like was said above we don't need Primax Whatever Gamma AND Marvel US continuity pages.
[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:30, 14 January 2016 (EST)

==Alternate names==
When we mention a character's alternate names (i.e, on X's page, we note that "he is sometimes known as '''Y'''), there seems to be a bit of confusion as to exactly ''where'' we do it. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grapple_(G1)&oldid=1043677 Some pages]<ref>(EDIT: Grapple's alternate name has been moved to the bio, so the link goes to an older revision for clarity.)</ref> place such information near the top in the continuity note, whereas [[Octane|others]] put it at the end of the opening paragraph. Is there a policy on this? I don't particularly care one way or the other, I'd just like to see them made consistent. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 01:08, 17 January 2016 (EST)
:I prefer them to be in the top rather than in the bio.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:54, 17 January 2016 (EST)
::The continuity notes are cluttered enough already. Put them at the end of the bio. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:57, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::: I think, barring the unusual case of an obscure alternate name that is seldom used, the end of the continuity note is the ideal place. But I'm not sure consistency is absolutely necessary, as long as the information is conveyed in an appropriate way.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:14, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I concur with Saix. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I prefer the end of the intro over the continuity note. It leaves more room for multiple names (in case a character has 2 or more alternate names) and also makes room for context (like, when and where and why is the character sometimes called by that other name). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:54, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::::I prefer the end of the intro as well. Take a look at [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Hot_Rod&oldid=1046644 Hot Rod]. <ref>(EDIT: as of 18:11, 20 January 2016 (EST), they've been moved into the bio. The link goes to an older revision for clarity.)</ref>He has all his names in the continuity note, and it's a mess. If we're going to pick just one way to do it (and I think we should), it should be at the end of the intro. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:45, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::::You've convinced me that the intro is a smarter spot. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)
How about [[Vector Prime]]'s alternate names? He's never made a solid appearance using any of them, so should they be in both the intro and in the AVP story section? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:23, 21 January 2016 (EST)
: That feels like a great place to make an exception and only list them in the fiction section or the notes.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:44, 21 January 2016 (EST)
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*tl;dr-r (too long; didn't re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Convoy is also called Miscellaneous Magnus, then [citation needed]. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.] [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names_links|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:25, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== Parodies ==

I think we should have one page that lists notable parodies and stuff. Just to get them out of the way. [[User:HarbringerOfDoom|HarbringerOfDoom]] ([[User talk:HarbringerOfDoom|talk]]) 08:29, 20 January 2016 (EST)

:They're already out of the way, by virtue of being not on this wiki. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::I noticed recently that the other place has started listing stuff like characters' appearances on ''Family Guy'' and ''Robot Chicken'' in their main profiles, which gives us even more reason not to. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 09:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::I can see the appeal, but I suspect it would quickly get out of hand. Transformers gets referenced in a lot of pop culture. Every show, movie, and Web comic is somebody's favorite, so I suspect any such page would quickly become an unbearably long and tedious list. So what would that leave us with? A page saying Transformers often shows up in pop culture? I'm not sure there's any value to that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:13, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:You guys have got to just be doing this on purpose now. [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 10:53, 21 January 2016 (EST)
::::I will get myself banned before I will allow this wiki to cover Family Guy and Robot Chicken. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:23, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:::::'''''NO.''''' Like, a thousand times no. I believe similar discussions have been had in the past, and the answer was a resounding no. (I can't find that particular discussion at the moment; I'll post it here if I find it.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::::::We have episodes of cartoons and issues of comics that are stubs and primary character articles that need to have their fiction sections filled out, but ok, yeah. Let's start pedantically listing every time ''Family Guy'' has referenced Transformers. That should be a priority. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 13:53, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:''<nowiki>**Condescending Wonka image**</nowiki>'' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)
The only page that would make sense (to me) while keeping in line with the spirit for this wiki is a simple list of times that official product was used in movies and television.
*This toy was in such and such movie in year 19XX.
*Transformers episode so'n'so was seen the background of movie in year 200X.
*A number of toys were shown featured in McTV show in episode whatzitz.
References are out. Parodies are out, and it's only a single page as to not clutter up the rest (similar to what we do with unofficial Transformers guides.) --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] ([[User talk:Bluestreak7|talk]]) 02:36, 22 February 2016 (EST)
:I really don't see any potential benefit to that. Are we going to make a page full of stuff like "Some G1 toys showed up in ''Flight of the Navigator''" and stuff like that? Why? It's pointless, and it would just open the floodgates for more of the same pointless crap, not to mention how bloated and useless it would be. Before long, people will use that page as an argument for including bullshit from Family Guy and the Chevy commercial with the car that turns into a robot and god knows what else. Information about references to ''Transformers'' in other media is something for Wikipedia to cover. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (EST)

== Question about GoBots....not the one you are thinking of ==

Discussion moved to [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/GoBots#Question_about_GoBots....not_the_one_you_are_thinking_of]]

== Is there a category for images from the ''Timelines'' Facebook pages? ==

Do we have a category for all the images posted on the ''Timelines'' Facebook pages like [[Ask Vector Prime]], [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]], etc? As I've been going through the [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|uncategorized images]], I've noticed that quite a few of them are from those Facebook pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:16, 8 February 2016 (EST)

== "Requested URL could not be retrieved" ==

I can't seem to find any kind of technical place to post this, so I'm just going to post it here in the hopes of getting some attention. For some reason, I've been locked out of the site; trying to access the website on either of my main computers results in a white page and an "ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved" message. I've tried clearing my cache, deleting cookies, all that stuff (I can still post on my phone). I suspect that it's some kind of internal server problem (I don't think I've done anything to break the wiki on my end), but I'm not sure? Any help would be appreciated. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:09, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:That might have been me being too zealous with the spam blocking. I'll send you an email shortly. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:36, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:: Thank you! I will see if it works. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:56, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::Did you get the email? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:14, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::: sorry for the late response, it got put into junk mail. Clicking the link just takes me to a blocked site. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:43, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::OK, I think you should now be unblocked. Give it another try! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:57, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::: It worked! Many thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:03, 28 February 2016 (EST)
:::::::No problem - sorry about that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:05, 29 February 2016 (EST)

== Facebook-exclusive characters ==
Given the copious quantity of characters debuted through the Tornado and TransTech Facebook pages who have no toys and have yet to appear in any other fiction, would it be appropriate to create a "Facebook-only characters" subcategory of "Fiction-only characters"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:59, 1 March 2016 (EST)
:Not a bad idea. I'd also be down for "Online-media exclusive characters" or something along those lines. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:15, 1 March 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, that sounds worthwhile. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:19, 1 March 2016 (EST)

== Furthering the use of list articles ==

Looking at Chris McFeely's [[User:Chris_McFeely/Sandbox:ListofRenegades|sandbox]] for the GoBots list article, I think that maybe similar list articles would be a nice way to handle some of the minor Shattered Glass and Kre-O characters. Pages like [[Broadside (SG)]] are rather useless, and I think that consolidating such pages into a list article would lead to a better reader experience. (To save us from pointless page moves, I would suggest just turning the old pages into a redirect to the list article, keeping all the categories.) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:38, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:No. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)
::Would you care to elaborate on that? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:20, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:::We only used a list for GoBots as a compromise for the endless debate. Applying that concept to inarguable Transformers characters is senseless and leads to more arguments over what counts for a list and what doesn't. You're just causing more inconsistency and headaches for no benefit. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:39, 3 March 2016 (EST)
I still hate the list pages for Gobots, I don't want to have to spread it further. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:25, 3 March 2016 (EST)

Lists are not ideal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 20:26, 3 March 2016 (EST)
:Fair enough. It was just a thought -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:41, 3 March 2016 (EST)

== Sick Of Arguing About GoBots II ==

Discussion moved to [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/GoBots#Sick_Of_Arguing_About_GoBots_II]]

== RID Kre-O ==

Since we're unlikely to get any more Kre-O fiction, and all of the RID Kre-O articles are pretty sparse in content, maybe they should just be merged to the main RID character articles? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:27, 8 March 2016 (EST)
:I'll be honest, I'm not averse to this at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:13, 8 March 2016 (EST)
::I guess nobody's really opposed to this or cares, so I'll go ahead and do it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)
After looking through the Kre-O pages... I feel like the comic-only cameos should all just be merged to whatever they're referencing. After merging all of the Iocus crap, it feels right to do the same to articles that are pretty much just "BWII Galvatron, but as a Kreon". They're very specific references removed from their context for really no good reason. Maybe not a popular suggestion, but throwing it out there. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:50, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::So long as it doesn't mess around with characters that freely switch between different incarnations of themselves, or are composite homages that can't be neatly classified. I can't think of any way those could be neatly merged into another page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:10, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm mostly focusing on unique characters (Fractyl, Atari, Tarn, etc.) and not the big archetypes like Optimus or Bumblebee. Most characters with toys will be left alone. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:35, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:I'm extremely cool with this. Never been big fan of giving them individual articles in the first place. Like, honestly, in a more organized world where this stuff hadn't been created on an incremental basis, "Fornax" almost certainly wouldn't be a thing and it'd all be Iocus. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (EST)
:Again, no real objection, if a tepid "sure". I mean, I'm not really convinced that Kreons based on existing characters who DO have toys but no fiction (like a hefty chunk of the "Class" sets) really need to be split out. A page from Kreon Topspin seems... overly redundant. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:29, 9 March 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, I'm looking around more and it seems like there's only a select few that couldn't be encompassed by their main versions. Most of the Class series is guilty of that, but there's also lots of Kreons based on one-shot characters ([[Wingspan Hawk]], [[Barrage (Kre-O)]]). We have a lot of pages that are just "this exists and is obviously this other thing" from both the toyline and the comic. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:39, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:::You probably are doing this, but be sure to add the "Kreons" category and such when condensing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:53, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:Ehhh... I disagree. I mean, the Kreon Class ones, sure, but I'm less certain on What about the likes of the [[Soundwave's Trap? Stop Operation Brainwash Humanity!|Soundwaves and Convoys]] and [[Enter the New Emperor of Destruction!? Stop Galvatron's Rampage!|Starscreams]]? I'd probably vote strong "yes" to merging the Class of 84/5 guys, weak "yes" to merging the fictionless Kreons (and maybe the non-Transformer comic cameos, I don't know), but a strong "no" to anyone who was actually in the comic. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 06:55, 10 March 2016 (EST)
::We do have a couple of examples where character pages have sections that cover more than one character already. The Masterforce transtectors and the BeCool cartoon come to mind. Does it really serve anything to give those tiny one-panel cameos in a referential comic their own pages? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:03, 10 March 2016 (EST)
:::As I've noted before, there comes a point where we're just being pointlessly pedantic, making people jump through hoops (and incrementally hitting our bandwidth limits) for... no actual ''benefit'' near as I can tell. Seriously. What's the benefit? What is the purpose? "Consistency"? Sorry, this franchise has grown and mutated too big for us to try and cram everything into no-exceptions rules. We HAVE to be flexible and make exceptions in some places, and when it comes to overly-redundant pages, that's where I'm more than willing to make exceptions.
:::I'm down with low-content one-pages for one-panel ''unique'' characters to be certain, like the Hideous Brain Guy, but for Basically The Well-Known G1 Character But In Brick Form? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:45, 10 March 2016 (EST)
Should we merge <nowiki>[[Soundblaster (Kre-O)]] into [[Soundblaster (G1)]]?</nowiki> Their colors aren't exactly the same, but they're both black repaint clones of the main Soundwave. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:02, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
:Sure, whatever. If another independent G1 Soundblaster pops up, that's probably where they're going anyway. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
So what are we doing about ''Kre-O'' toys who unambiguously represent a single established character? Back on March 25, Sipher undid the merger of ''Kre-O'' [[Ravage (Kre-O)|Ravage]], but on May 5, Chris merged ''Kre-O'' Megaplex. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:25, 15 May 2016 (EDT)

== Informing new users of the recent anti-spam measures ==

(Slight re-editing of something I posted on the Allspark) I think we may need to put something in [[Template:Welcome|the welcome template]] and/or on [[Main Page/editing-tips|Main Page/editing-tips]] about how new users are unable to create pages because of all the spam stuff; it seems to be [[User talk:Foffy the Sheep#Extreme Editing Difficulties|confusing some people]]. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:45, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
:I've just reduced the timeout for creating new pages down to 6 hours, which should still slow down the spammers but not be quite as much of a burden on legit new users. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:50, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
Is any active admin still getting emails sent to the webmaster mailbox? I ask because I'm getting a ton of them: Looks like new IP/User Agent blocks, and I haven't touched this setup since... 2014? [[User:McFly|McFly]] ([[User talk:McFly|talk]]) 23:12, 23 March 2016 (EDT)

We now have a new captcha based on the [[Transformers Name Generator]], which should hopefully be harder for the spammers to crack. Also my apologies to the non-spammers caught up in the blocking - all of the user agent blocks have been rolled back by now, so hopefully no one should be blocked from viewing the site. (Also as per McFly above, I've redirected the webmaster email address to me) --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:18, 25 March 2016 (EDT)
:I hope the new signup test is not too difficult - I notice we haven't had any new signups since implementing it. I changed the notice to be clearer and provided an example. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:30, 27 March 2016 (EDT)

== Memobots and Deskcepticons ==

For those not in the know, the Hasbro Facebook page posted a bunch of new "characters" for April Fools, The Memobots and the Deskcepticons. While awesome, there's very little material for each "character" to have its own page. (All there is are photoshopped pictures of office supplies, some tech-spec stats and some very brief blurbs.) I'm thinking maybe each "faction" could have a single page, listing each of its members, instead of a very bare page for each "character." Thoughts? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
: Just so long as they're represented here somehow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:08, 2 April 2016 (EDT)

== Possible partnership with the German Transformers Wikia ==

I've been approached by the main admin of the German Transformers Wiki[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Abatesnz#Conflict_with_the_TFWiki.net] about forming a partnership with them. We've had a long running partnership with Wookieepedia, which is also hosted on Wikia. They'd link to our pages from their pages and vice versa. Possibly we could set them up as an interlanguage link - I'd have to look into what's involved. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

== Beast Wars reorganization ==

[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Demonstration]]. It's evident that all of the conflicting continuities and crap is out of control, so this seems like the cleanest approach now. It's based on the movie approach we're using, since it's a pretty similar situation. Thoughts? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:23, 15 April 2016 (EDT)
:That's fine by me. The old chronological way is becoming a clusterfudge. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:33, 15 April 2016 (EDT)

==GoBots discussions consolidated==
Since we've been discussing this topic for literally years, I thought it would be useful to consolidate it all in one place, in order, with summaries of the key decisions. It can be daunting to keep track of it all, and in recent months the rules have changed several times. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots]]. Summaries could use some work, but I tried to stick to the simple facts without editorializing. I think the important thing with the summaries is that they succinctly say roughly what was discussed and what, if any, decisions were reached. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:47, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

== "Transformers Trilogy" manga ==

(Although I'm not sure if that's the actual title.) Turns out I have it on my hard drive: [https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ymumej4klqkttlu/AAA2AdRbHyvvxUU6kR6b-rBCa?dl=0]. Feel free to do with as you please. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 01:03, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

==Alternate Names links==

Looking at [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise's]] page, I see from the top he is sometimes known as '''Streetstar''' and '''Streetsmart'''. I know Streetstar comes from ''Wings'', but I don't know where Streetsmart comes from. I recommend a practice of making those "sometimes known as" bits into links that carry you down to the particular Fiction or Toy where the particular name comes from, like <nowiki>[[Streetwise (G1)#Wings Universe|Streetstar]]</nowiki>. Thoughts? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:I like the idea, but I would prefer ref notes to section links. Also, there are cases like Bluestreak/Silverstreak, where the alternate name is used in multiple places, and we'd have to decide how much detail we'd want to go into in those instances. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:36, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah, if an alternate name is used in multiple places, a reference note explanation attached to the name could better cover all of those in one go. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::I would prefer to uses refs even when the name is only used in one place. I can't quite put it into words, but using section links for this purpose just feels...''wrong''. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:55, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::Could you try to put it in words? Because section links would be ''"Click here to find what you're looking for."'' Ref notes would be ''"Click here to go to some text at the bottom of the page to tell you where to look in the middle of the page to find what you're looking for."'' Seems like an unnecessary extra step. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:32, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::I think the section link wouldn't make it very clear that it's showing you where the name is from. It looks like it's going to send you to a different page or something, then just sends you to a different section of the same page and hopes you figure out what's going on.

:::::The ref note has an advantage in that it's already associated with addendums and citations. When the reader sees a ref note, they instantly know "this will show me some details about this bit of text", while a link says "This is going to send me to another page". -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 14:05, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::...I feel like the reader would have to be pretty stupid not to understand what the link was doing. "Slingshot is sometimes known as '''Quickslinger'''." Click the link, see a toy of Slingshot called Quickslinger, with http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Slingshot_(G1) still in the address bar. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:21, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, I guess you're probably right. Ref notes would only be absolutely necessary if an alternate name is used in multiple places. I'd still rather use ref notes on all of them, but your way works just as well and it's not really worth arguing about any further. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 15:16, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Coming back to this, ref notes have the advantage of being easier to change if a variant name starts popping up in more fiction, just add it to the list. A section link would have to be completely rewritten into a ref note. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 13:00, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
@Foffy: I don't see a problem for the cases I've mentioned, no, but I'm not convinced my idea is best for cases where a character is regularly known by multiple names. For instance, how would this apply to Hot Rod's page? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:22, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

*tl;dr-r (too long; didn't re-read), but absolutely agree that if Miscellaneous Prime is also called Miscellaneous Maximus, then [citation needed]. [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Starscream_%28G1%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096193 i did Megascream.] [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Alternate_names|see also]] --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:24, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== characters without pages ==

i do not feel compelled to create pages for [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Toxicity&diff=1096168&oldid=1072705 Scarytown] or [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Insecticon_%28WFC%29&diff=prev&oldid=1096169 Scurry Down], do you?
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:10, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:Given that this character doesn't exist and he's telling the other injured Insecticon to "stay down," no, I don't. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::Chris McFeely edit summary: We went through this when the episode aired - he's telling the other Insecticon to "stay down."
:::Thanks. Can you link me to that discussion? (Not finding it on [[Talk:Insecticon_(WFC)]] or [[Talk:Toxicity]], maybe the Community Portal archives?) i have the DVD in my computer's disc drive right now and i really don't think he's saying "stay down"; i'm quite sure i hear another syllable in the middle there. (i also think Hardshell using the other Con's name makes more sense than telling him to stay down.) But like i said, it's hard to make out what he's saying. --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:37, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::I don't think there's even a discussion to link to, because editors just reverted anyone who tried to add it. He's not calling him "Scurrytown." I'm sorry, he's just not. It's the snarling voice Kaye uses. There's KIND of a "k-" sound in there, but there's no R. The Insecticon has just tried to get up, and Hardshell is telling it not to bother, and instead stay down and radio the ship. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 05:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== A suggestion to benefit the wiki ==

Hey everyone. I've noticed that this wiki lacks some templates that would be beneficial to have when it comes to linking articles. For example, if I want to link to the G1 Starscream page, I would have to write <nowiki>[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]</nowiki>. That's sort of a pain to do. Over on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/ SmashWiki], we use some templates to cut down on the amount of text needed to do that kind of linking. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Template:SSB Here's an example].

If we implemented this, one would have to write <nowiki>{{G1|Starscream}}</nowiki> if they wanted to link to that page. That cuts down on a lot of text.

Is this a good suggestion? Btw, I still think that pages such as [[Optimus Prime (WFC)]] should be called Optimus Prime (Aligned) instead. It makes ''way'' more sense to do it that way and would make this template process a bit easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 11:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:Could be useful. But disambiguating by continuity family instead of franchise has been discussed to death and decided against repeatedly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::I know that it's a frequently argued topic, but I think it's more relevant than ever due to the fact that we have two franchises with the same name (RID). I mean, why are [[Steeljaw (RID)]] and [[Grimlock (RID)]] not characters from the same series? It makes no sense. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 14:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::: Part of the disambiguation by series, and not by continuity family, is because sometimes character names get re-used within a universe for different characters. For instance, we have [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] the Autobot lion, and Steeljaw the Decepticon wolf, both of whom exist in the Aligned universe. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:05, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::The problem you're having is that you're expecting the disambig tags to convey information when that's not their actual job. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 14:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::It's not? Wouldn't it be simpler then to just go numerical by appearance? Optimus Prime (1), Optimus Prime (2), etc? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:32, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::Because then you'd have to memorise a list of numbers in order to link to the Optimus Prime that you wanted? If disambig tags were supposed to be a source of information, every single article would have one. Their actual job is to avoid having articles named the same thing. The continuity note, i.e. the ''first sentence of every article'', is the thing that's supposed to tell what franchise and continuity family a thing is from. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:39, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::::That. The current disambig tags exist to help editors remember who's who while saving us from having to type "(RID 2015)" over and over. Would you be able to tell me offhand who "Blackout III" is? They are ultimately an editing convenience and are not meant to convey every single detail about a character. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:12, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::::::I can see how that would be a pain. I wasn't proposing that system, just trying to reconcile the idea that tags don't convey information.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::::So that case would move further down the hierarchy. How does that affect the idea of starting with continuity family? And it is completely ignoring the fact that the (RID) tags (and the (Universe) tags) are ambiguous in the real world sense. True, they may not be ambiguous in the narrow wiki definition, but to new and casual readers the fact that the exact same tag can refer to two different series is confusing. We should not be increasing real world ambiguity ("Which RID series is this again?") just because it doesn't cause wiki-centric ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:15, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

oh my god you guys, '''no, stop''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:13, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:I feel like disambiguation tag debates should be definitively banned, to be honest. They just go into circles and nothing ever changes. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:44, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
Typing <nowiki>[[Starscream (G1)|]]</nowiki> also works, is only slightly longer than <nowiki>{{G1|Starscream}}</nowiki>, and has the benefit of not including the overhead of expanding a template which adds processing time to any page when the site has to render it. That last one might not be a problem on a small wiki with only medium-sized pages like SmashWiki, but here it could be a big issue. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:22, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
:That's great. I had no idea. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:42, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
::It ''is'' kinda buried in the middle of [[Help:Editing]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:37, 25 May 2016 (EDT)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:52, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

Well, to anyone who actually contributed to the discussion, thanks for your input. I can see that this sort of template isn't really what this wiki is looking for, although I do think it would make things a little easier. [[User:John3637881|John3637881]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 23:40, 24 May 2016 (EDT)

== How to request main page changes? ==

Hi! I'm fairly new here, so I'm sorry if this is a silly question. The main page seems to be edit-locked except for admins, which is an excellent idea. However, I'm used to having a place to request edits to locked pages - in this case, I'd probably mostly be asking for updates to the Rescue Bots "newest episodes" list. Does this wiki have one? If yes, where? Thanks for answering! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 17:02, 25 May 2016 (EDT)
:The current releases box actually runs off a separate template that anybody can edit - click the little 'V' in the corner of the box to access it and update to your heart's content! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:12, 25 May 2016 (EDT)
::I didn't even notice that. Thanks! [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 19:23, 25 May 2016 (EDT)

== Anonymous Primal (BW) has lots of toys! You may be looking for Anonymous Primal (Animated) or Anonymous Primal (RID). ==

A [[Mirage_(G1)/toys|few]] [[Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys|spot]] [[Megatron_(G1)/toys|checks]] suggest that when a character has enough toys that they warrant a separate page from the character's main article, the toys page does not link directly to a disambiguation page, even if the character does. Looks like [[Shockwave_(G1)/Marvel_Comics_continuity|fiction]] [[Wheeljack_(G1)/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity|sections]] don't have disambiguation links, either. How easily could disambiguation links (where applicable) be added to the {(suite)} template? So if you're trying to look up a toy and, whoa, hey, these aren't the droids i'm looking for, but that's the name on the box--maybe someone else has that name?

i bet you're thinking, "If you start by looking up the name on the box, you'll land on the disambig page." But what if an internal link on the wiki sends you to /toys or /IDW_Generation_1_continuity or whatever, and it's not the right namesake?

Maybe it's easy enough to find the disambig pages. But maybe we can make it easier. i just don't know how to edit templates, myself (and wouldn't edit them without asking).

--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 23:45, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
:"But what if an internal link on the wiki sends you to /toys or /IDW_Generation_1_continuity or whatever, and it's not the right namesake?" Which doesn't happen. You are creating solutions to problems that only exist in your head. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:18, 30 May 2016 (EDT)
::What Saix said. If the links are sending someone to the wrong place, what needs to happen is that we fix them, not create solutions to problems that will never arise if everything is done properly. Also, I'd really rather not clutter the suite templates; they're specifically desgned to be small and non-intrusive, and sticking disambigs in them detracts from that. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:26, 30 May 2016 (EDT)

== IDW Revolution ==

So the preview for ''Rom'' #1 shows the EDC in it and we can probably expect more of this sort of thing. This could be a problem for recording stuff, since the EDC is a Transformers concept but if it becomes a ''Rom'' one too, we technically need to put a lot of Rom storylinks here.

So should we do a rule that it has to be ''specifically'' a Transformer appearing to get covered, and otherwise we'll put it in Notes ("the EDC also shoot Rom!!")? --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]) 17:17, 7 June 2016 (GMT)

:I think the closest thing we have to an existing standard is [[Unfoldings!|G.I. Joe #138]], a comic that is not an identified crossover with Transformers and contains the most minor of guest-appearances inside. The full issue is summarized on this site, and details of that issue appear in the fiction section of every character, even ones like [[Wild Bill]] who had no contact with Transformers whatsoever for the story.

:Beyond that "standard", though, you're right that we will need to establish a rule for when Hasbro/IDW Universe stories are covered. Only when Transformers appear in the issue? Transformers characters? Transformers concepts? If Blackrock appears in MASK #3, do we cover that issue based on that alone? What if there's also a one-panel flashback of Blackrock with Galvatron? Do we cover it then? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:50, 7 June 2016 (EDT)

::My two cents. If it's not a piece of Transformers fiction, it generally only gets mentioned in the notes, even if a nominally-TF character appears. Major characters (you can decide who fits) can tip the scales, and situations like GI Joe #138 get included because that issue is essential to understanding issue #139 (where the crossover is first explicitly mentioned, but where the action is already well in play as the issue opens, and #138 is necessary to understand how we got there. Note also that a major TF character appears in #138, if only briefly). These general guidelines should be able to suffice for the most part. --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] ([[User talk:G.B. Blackrock|talk]]) 13:32, 7 June 2016 (EDT)

:::Disagree on #138. It's completely unnecessary for understanding #139 ("Megatron is attacking the castle!" is pretty clearly conveyed by the splash page), and it actually ''confuses'' the situation, since the shadowy conversation in #138 is ignored or outright contradicted later in the story.

:::But regardless, that brings us back around to "What's a major character?" Only Transformers? Pre-IDW humans like Fairborne, Spike, and Blackrock as well? Jimmy Pink and Jones? What if Battle Force 2000 encounters the Enigma of Combination? What if MASK travels to Cybertron, but no identifiable Transformers appear? I realize a lot of these questions can't be answered until it happens, but some idea where everyone sits on the matter should be established ahead of time, if we can. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:46, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::If it's not an explicit and branded crossover we should have minimal coverage. If an actual Transformer shows up in another book, we cover his appearance but that's it. 138 is probably covered in too much detail already. Transformers concepts and settings and human companions appearing in other books are notes. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 14:15, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::I think if a Transformer or other Clearly A Transformers-Franchise Character like Blackrock, Marissa, Spike, etc. shows up in another title's issue, than that issue should get fully covered as a crossover regardless of "branding." A TF-originated ''concept'', however, like the EDC, putting in an appearance probably doesn't need to be more than a note somewhere. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:49, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::No. We don't cover every Marvel Comics issue Death's Head's shown up in following his departure from the TF universe. And before you "WELL ACTUALLY" me, he's only not a Fully Legal Transformers Character on the most petty of technicalities. He was made to be a Transformers character and given a legal out to be used elsewhere without paying Hasbro.<br>
::::::AT MOST, non-Transformers books should be lumped together in a fiction section on the franchise in question's page. Personally I have grave doubts as to just how much character bleed there actually will be, as well as how long any of these titles are even going to ''last''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:03, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::WELL ACTUALLY another difference there is that, like you said, Death's Head ''departed'' the TF universe. He was taken away from the TF franchise and given to Marvel-at-large. This has not happened with say, Marissa Fairborn, who is still a Transformers character. Her "home title" is still The Transformers. A hypothetical Marissa Fairborn guest appearance in an issue of M.A.S.K. is, IMO, just as much of a TF crossover as an appearance of, say, Cosmos or Soundwave would be. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 15:22, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Which should still be relegated to a singular fiction section on the not-Transformers franchise page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 15:41, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::But the fact that that legal out was ''created'' would, I think, make him a Marvel-by-way-of-Transformers character. He may have been ''created'' for Transformers, but he was also created to be ''used'' outside Transformers. Plus, uh, what Kil said.
:::::::My proposal: only issues with Transformers in get their own pages; any other appearances of TF characters and concepts go on a single page for the whole franchise/comic. Doesn't leave anything out, but also doesn't overstep the wiki's bounds. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:44, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Death's Head's legal reality is exactly why he's in those non-Transformers stories in the first place; I don't think he's a good example. I think sticking to things that cannot exist out of a ''Transformers'' context (i.e. the Enigma of Combination, Optimus Prime, etc.) is a okay baseline. The EDC can always serve as a generic "defense against aggressive aliens" organization independent of Transformers, but things like the Matrix can't. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:56, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear. TF-originating non-TF characters and concepts (Spike, EDC, the Enigma, cosmic rust) get very brief mentions within the main bodies of their articles, in proper chronological order in the IDW Fiction sections, with storylinks properly annotated; these storylinks would be redirected to the main non-TF-franchise comic page. IE "storylink|ROM #6" just goes to the ROM comic. ROM (character) does not have any of his own adventures chronicled ever except when he's doing it right next to a Transformer, regardless of title. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:11, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::"Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear." No. A one-panel cameo does not mean we write up the entire issue as its own article. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:34, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::We've got full pages for the non-Transformers Infestation comics and Unit:E, just putting that out there. It's not like covering issues in which Transformers appear is going to lead to people insisting we cover the entirety of okay actually I may be giving the average wiki user too much credit --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:46, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::::I'd much rather just lose the full page coverage for Unit E and non-TF Infestation than start giving it to all these new comics. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 19:49, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::BINGO. It's not before anymore. We live in a very different world than when a lot of this wiki's "standards" were crafted. What worked when TFs was a healthy-yet-niche franchise, perhaps not so much now that it's being used as a tentpole for a lot of other things. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:27, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Disagreed, I guess. I feel like if it's a book by a Hasbro licensee using their Transformers license to use Transformers in the story, it doesn't particularly matter what the name on the book is. Sure, if it's, like, a 1-panel flashback or something we wouldn't even mention otherwise, we can leave it out, but if they have a bigger role, it shouldn't need "The Transformers" on the cover to get a writeup. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 14:23, 8 June 2016 (EDT)
::::::I'm down with "Transformers get full writeups and bestow full writeup coverage on the issues in which they appear", with the caveat of "except when it's a minor cameo" (i.e. not Megatron showing up in Joe #138 as he's the cliffhanger but like how Nick Fury's making a cameo in TF #3 to go "look this guy's paying attention). Anything else goes in Notes unless & until it explicitly impacts on a Transformers comic, i.e. crossover stories. --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] ([[User talk:Charles RB|talk]]} 04:05, 8 June 2016 GMT

== "Foreign Names" ==
The original Mandarin names of the Chinese MMO characters are not their "foreign names" and it is factually inaccurate to label them as such. The AVP replacement names are actually the "foreign" ones. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 08:45, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:Wouldn't the same objection apply to [[Ricochet (Headmasters)]] and the entirety of the Unicron Trilogy's characters? Perhaps a change to the title of the section would be appropriate, but I just read the heading as "names in a language other than English". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::UT characters are in a much different position, since they were developed with both the English-speaking audience and the Japanese audience in mind, they weren't created for Japan and then imported elsewhere. I would also note that "Foreign names" isn't used to mean "names in a language other than English" on the Beastformers' articles, which list their English names under that header. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:56, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::What kind of a change would you suggest? Is it a matter of semantics, like we could change the headers to "International names"? Personally, I never thought the "Foreign names" header intimated something suggesting that the names were "secondary", just that we use English language names where appropriate and list the international/foreign ones at the bottom where appropriate. I don't think country of origin ever really factored into it. And we use the Foreign names section even when characters have the same names across languages, but render them in that language's alphabet for ease of reference (admittedly, we've been rather sloppy about that, particularly the similar Foreign localization sections of episodes where sometimes we list a language's info and sometimes we don't). While we could definitely stand to be more complete/precise across the board, I think altering the section titles based on country of origin would only confuse things for casual browsers. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 10:28, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::Honestly the main thing I wanna suggest is un-reverting the changes to the MMO characters back to "Original Mandarin Name" in place of "Foreign name" as that just more accurate, IMO. I also think that if the intent of the wiki is that "Foreign names" be read as "non-English names" then maybe "English" shouldn't actually appear under that header, as it does for Beastformers and Omni Producion dubs. And if "Foreign names" is actually supposed to mean "Names given to character in foreign markets" then should the name given in their ''original'' market actually be under there? Should a character's original name ever be labelled "foreign"? My gut instinct is to say "no" to that. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 11:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::They are foreign to our main readership, which is primarily Americans. That's what it means, regardless of whether the character is a foreign creation. We've had examples like [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet/Stepper]], [[Snowblind|Snowblind/Beacon]], and [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy]] for years. Why is this any different? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:04, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::I don't know! Maybe it isn't! Maybe all characters should always have their original name listed as such instead of just being under the "Foreign names" header! Maybe they shouldn't! Maybe! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:16, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::Foreign is always understood as being in relation to the speaker. As this wiki is English speaking, all non-English names are foreign, even if they are the original names for those characters. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:11, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::::Again, if "all non-English name are foreign" then maaaaaaaaybe the word "English" shouldn't be appearing beneath the "Foreign names" header on any articles? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:19, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::::That's a more valid point, though it is mainly used for the Omni Productions dub which is pretty foreign to anything close to English...or good.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:23, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::As we currently have it set up for English/Omni names, it looks like this:

*''English:'' '''Billy''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub), '''Blaster''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub Twincast)

While it seems pretty clear by having the Omni Productions note in parenthesis by the names, maybe it would look better like this?

*''English ([[Omni Productions]] dub):'' '''Billy''' (as Blaster), '''Blaster''' (as Twincast)

Is that better or worse or not even worth the effort? Personally, I don't have a dog in this race; I kinda think things are okay as-is. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 12:35, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:I was walking about the presence of "English" beneath a "Foreign names" header at all if the intended meaning of "Foreign names" is "non-English." So this isn't really addressing that? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:45, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::There isn't really any other good place for these names to go. Unless you want to elevate them to the level of legitimate English variants (like Hot Rod vs Rodimus Prime or Bluestreak vs Silverstreak). I would find it a lot more disturbing to see "Also known as Billy" in Blaster's intro. Oh, and I agree with Speng's new version of the listing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:57, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::Okay, but then, what else could we call it? How else could we catalog that info? Should we put the Omni names at the top of the article alongside the "Sometimes he is known as..." notation at the bottom of the intro? I dunno if anybody would like that. I get what you're saying about having "English" under Foreign names when we default to English as a standard, but I'm not sure of a better way to catalog their Omni names aside from how we have it (English with Omni in parenthesis) (EDIT: Ah, Khajida beat me to the punch by 2 minutes). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] ([[User talk:DrSpengler|talk]]) 12:59, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::I mean, I suppose just listing "Omni Productions Dub" without the word English next to it would read better? Or listing it's country of origin instead of language, rendering the meaning on "Foreign" as "non-American" rather than "non-English?" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:05, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::The Omni dubs are a very strange situation, though, and probably not something we need to build a whole policy around. Surely if we have a working system in place that reads a little strange in this one case we don't need to revamp everything. We can make some kind of reasonable exception just for Omni and call it a day.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 13:39, 14 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::Right. I think we're digressing from Kil's original complaint. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:38, 14 July 2016 (EDT)

== Striking Unit:E from the record ==

As someone who has been adding a bunch of pages for the newly introduced Hasbro properties that are part of IDW's Revolution, I think we're hitting a bit of a snag: Unit:E.
Unit:E was supposed to spin-out of Prime, which would put it in the Aligned continuity, while all the Revolution stuff is based in G1 continuity. As such, including info on both IDW Action Man and Unit:E Action Man on the same page doesn't make sense (especially when that page was built solely with IDW in mind.) However, this is a Transformers Wiki, and I don't think we need Action Man (IDW) and Action Man (Unit:E)
This kind of thing WILL spiral out of control, and will only get worse with things like G.I. Joe characters (who are all G1 based) and Micronauts (because Acroyear is so different between the two incarnations.)
As such, I propose that we set a precedent to excise ANY Unit:E-based material, with the exception of how it directly relates to the Transformers. Meaning the page on the actual group mentioned in Prime and the comic itself would stay, but unless Transformers were involved, the events aren't referenced. [[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 19:57 15 July 2016 (EST)
:Or we could just leave them on the same pages like we already are now. Don't overcomplicate things. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:27, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
::The way we handle non-Transformers original characters is to keep all appearances together on the same page. So, if Destro shows up in Animated, and again in G1, we don't make two articles. No need for an Action Man (Aligned) and an Action Man (G1) under this scheme. Having them on the same page is a simple and elegant solution. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 20:39, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
:::My issue with Unit:E is that none of the characters actually interact, and the multiversal nature of the story means that the Action Man featured there may not even have Transformers in his own universe, meaning his adventures would fall into the Megaverse, and thus outside this wiki's domain. The Unit:E information is therefore superfluous. Unit:E is also not a Transformers-branded piece of media. Notice we don't record the G.I. Joe events of Infestation. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 20:53 15 July 2015 (EST)
::::Because those issues do not have Transformers in them. Unit:E does, and I'm seriously having a hard time seeing the harm in detailing an one-shot issue that didn't amount to anything and that nobody else will cover. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:57, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::The Unit:E stuff is G1 already though. Arcee, Jazz, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are all seen as distinctly G1 incarnations of those characters. There isn't even a need to consider the fact that one spin-off is G1 and another is Aligned since that's not the case. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 00:40, 16 July 2016 (EDT)

== Aligned characters ==

[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/page-247 As brought up here on the Allspark], is there any momentum to split the RiD2015 incarnations of characters such as [[Grimlock (WFC)]], [[Sideswipe (WFC)]], and [[Kickback (FOC)]]? A highly broken concept as it is, the Aligned continuity family does roughly fit together as one timeline. As the three aforementioned RiD characters quite obviously do not share the looks and personalities of the WfC/FoC characters, I, for one, do not see how to reconcile them as the WfC/FoC characters at a new stage of their lives. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:57, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
:Yeah, I've come around to the idea that they just don't have that much in common between names and altmodes (or, er, robot modes). I vote to split. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 04:52, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
::For the reasons I've laid out on the AllSpark and on Sideswipe (WFC)'s talk page, I also think they should be split. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 07:24, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
:::I also vote split. And just because I think this is a really useful way to conceptualize things, I want to repeat my formulation from the AllSpark thread:
::::''Let me present this little thought experiment. Let's say that the RID 15 guy was named "Trapjaw", an early name for Grimlock. Maybe for copyright reasons, maybe for creative reasons, we don't know specifically. Would we still be inclined to keep the pages merged? This is an issue that has been a part of the Transformers brand since 1984 (see: Jetfire and Skyfire, who do indeed share a page). Shockblasts comfortably share pages with Shockwaves, Silverstreaks with Bluestreaks, Jazzs with Meisters. Likewise, characters since G1 have shared names and yet not been the same characters: Sky High is the earliest example. In this case, take away the name, and is there any reason to keep them merged? If your answer to this question is no, then you should probably be in favor of a split. ''
:::I think this is an abstract enough test to be useful in a variety of cases where there is name reuse but little else. I've tested it against various counterexamples and (BW vs G1 Megatron, Octane and Tankor, various Unicron Trilogy Mini-Con nameslaps, toon vs comic Blaster) and it always seems to produce the 'correct' answer. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:52, 4 August 2016 (EDT)
[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/?p=3302429 Spectre makes a good point here] about the distinctiveness of Grimlock and Sideswipe. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:26, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

So...absent any complaints or counter-arguments in the next 24 hours, I say we go ahead and begin splitting these three characters. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:38, 5 August 2016 (EDT)
:As much as my vote matters, I agree with splitting them. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 13:04, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Main Page/featured-series

2016-08-05T16:33:24Z

Stealthyboy: /* Machinima Combiner Wars */ new section

I take it that you're finding the broken-out files easier to edit? You noticed how the 'view' buttons above each element on the main page take you here? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:59, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Why does this say "0 days" until ROTF is out on DVD when it isn't released yet? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:27, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
: Well, it's fewer than 12 hours until it's released. Probably rounding down to the nearest integer! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:45, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
::There. Fixed it to show the hours.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 15:05, 19 October 2009 (EDT)

== Shuffle ==

As much as it pains me to finally take Animated off of Featured Series, perhaps we should shuffle this box to accomodate War for Cybertron somehow? Make it obvious that we're covering it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:15, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: I sort of agree, but it would help if we knew where WfC fit. Do all the characters get their own pages or are they part of the G1 pages? Because as-is, we have just the one page. I ''do'' agree that we need to prominently link to it. Maybe replace the DVD link with it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:31, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::I would agree, but we're (supposedly) going to get a sizable handful of Animated toys before WFC comes out--and also all the differences and variants and weirdness the Japanese run will give us. Can we make the featured box a bit bigger--add another column beneath Animated, of exactly the same size, for WFC? It just seems wrong to replace an entire series with what is, for the immediate future, basically a one-page overview of press releases. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:36, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::Perhaps there's merit in shrinking down our ROTF coverage in that box to make room? Remove the character list?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:38, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::Considering that War For Cybertron seems to be a major upcoming fiction event, while Animated is pretty much <s>cancelled</s> discontinued indefinitely at the moment, I agree with a heavy heart that replacing Animated for WFC would be a good idea if need be. If we ever get Animated continued in some way, or the Japanese make some major additions, we can consider putting it back, but a last gasp wave of toys and minor cultural changes isn't quite a big enough deal for highlighting purposes.
::::However, I do agree that we might as well ditch the Featured Characters part for now, until we have a new set of characters that need pimping. It's served its purpose. If that does give us enough room to keep all three after all, then go for it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:49, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Maybe a little messy, but without the character list we've got a ''lot'' of room.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:Maybe it's time to finally take the ROTF DVD field guide down? It has been out for nearly 6 months now. I would actually be in favor or putting a section pimping IDW's latest comic series {{unsigned|173.74.204.40}}
::I'd honestly be in favor of maybe taking down all of the ROTF and Animated features, to declutter a bit in anticipation of War For Cybertron's big release and the later-this-year Transformers: Prime.
::What we could possibly replace them with instead is a simpler "Recent Fiction" section that contains just links to whatever's newest in everything that doesn't have a special feature. We could link to things like the latest ROTF, Animated, IDW, and TFCC releases. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:53, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:::Any chance we could leave Animated up until, I dunno, June 27th-ish? --[[Special:Contributions/76.233.87.50|76.233.87.50]] 16:14, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://miscfile.alienharmony.com/transformers/new-featured-series-idea.jpg This is more or less what I had mind]. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:19, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::Hmm. Anyone have any thoughts? Even if we don't clear out all of the recent stuff, the more I think about it, the more I kind of like at least adding on some way to highlight ''all'' of the recent fiction going on, not just the "big deal" stuff. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:39, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::I really like that version, though to look good the layout would have to be symmetrical.... and as we've discussed, Animated is going to get like 3 more publications in the forseeable future. Once the last of the cel-with-wordbubbles comic collections comes out, I'm afraid it should be removed. By that point, I guess it would be replaced with Prime? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:49, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::[[Transformers Animated: The Adventure Continues! Volume 1|Volume 1]] implies there will be more to come. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 13:57, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The symmetry shouldn't be a problem, I don't think... if we end up with only three (or some other odd number) of the smaller features, we can just center the singleton. We could also just do without the logos and have that section just a text-only list.
::::::::As for which features to keep, IMHO the criterion should be less "does this have new fiction coming out?" and more, "Is there a big deal enough thing still coming to warrant a full- on feature as opposed to just a link to whatever's new?"
::::::::Because otherwise, there's actually a number of series that have ongoing new fiction at this point, but it would get too cluttered to fully feature all of them, IMHO. Hence my new section idea. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:04, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't mean it should stay as it is, but should we go with your idea (which I like, btw) it also shouldn't be removed completely any time soon (which is what Thylacine said) because between ''The Cool'' and ''The Adventure Continues'', it seems there will still be stuff being released for the rest of the year at least. Save for cancellations, that is. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 14:16, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I'll weigh in on Jeysie's side on this. Also, Magnus, I think you have misunderstood Jeysie's point. Even with The Cool and The Adventure continues, there simply isn't enough coming up to justify Animated remaining "featured" and it WOULD be removed (unless I misunderstood). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:26, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::I think you did misunderstand. The distinction is being made between "featured" (big logo, links to all the sub-pages plus latest fiction) and just being "included" (small logo, link only to latest fiction). We currently have 3 "featured" series; ''WfC'', ''RotF'' and ''Animated'', and what Jeysie is suggesting (I think) is that we should cut that down to one so that the less prominent on-going fiction can still be "included". What ''I'm'' saying is that by all means ''Animated'' shouldn't be "featured", but it should still be "included". - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 14:45, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::Ayep, that's basically what I meant. I think Animated should definitely be included ''somehow''. Just, for me, a question of whether it's included staying as a "big feature" with all the section links, or as a "small feature" in my latest idea.
::::::::::::I'm actually not terribly fussed with whether we keep Animated as a "big feature" or not, since Sipher makes a lot of good points in favor of "big feature", but I do vote for ROTF going down to "small feature". --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:34, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::::(Lord, one thing I hate about these long discussions is the indenting...) I wasn't really arguing for "big feature" re: ''Animated''... honestly, that little graphic you made works for me as-is. ''WFC'' really is (for now) the biggest media point in the franchise, and once we have a firmer grip on where the holy hell it sits, we can devote the "big feature" space to it like we did for ''Animated'' and ''ROTF'' (or something similar, again, hinging on its placement) up until ''Prime'' rolls in. ''Animated'' I think is right now best-served as one of the four "small feature" sections, and I think the four you have now covers the spectrum of what's pretty damn well. Though I do wonder how we'll handle things like Alternity stories and minor pack-in fictions as they hit. A fifth text-only link centered under the others, as part of a "Miscellaneous" block? Do we want to keep four "regular" sources/franchises, or just have the newest fiction release -no matter what its source- take the top-left corner and push the others back (and off)? It feels kind of disingenuous to not have the newest fiction, even minor fictions, not represented on our mainpage. After all, we THRIVE on shining the light on the obscure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:02, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::::It doesn't necessarily have to be only four logo features; those are simply all of the ongoing things I remembered off the top of my head, eheh. We can logo ''everything'' with new fiction, or we can split between logos and text, it's all the same to me.
::::::::::::::If we ''do'' split things up, my vote would be, things with ongoing fiction that's being released on a fairly regular schedule get the logos, while anything more sporadically released (does Alternity fall under that?) gets text-only links. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:15, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

::::::I think I like that box. But DEFINITELY keep the logos. It really, really needs that visual flair. Our frontpage is fairly text-heavy as it is, so every little bit of visual shorthand where it makes sense is welcome. After all, we don't want to be Wikia, do we?
::::::As for ''Animated'' being taken down... I vote '''''NO'''''. This is what Japan is getting for at least most of the year. that's... pretty big, really. There's every episode getting re-aired with cuts and changes and new footage, and more importantly there's the accompanying monthly manga, which appears to be all-new stuff. I think we'd be doing a disservice to not have what IS a current line -even if it is onthe opposite side of the globe- in the current-line box. Especially as ''Animated'' is so well-loved, and fans are hungry for any new material from it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:28, 12 April 2010 (EDT)

Starting over the indenting a bit for sanity's sake... [http://miscfile.alienharmony.com/transformers/other-featured-series-ideas.jpg here's a couple more tweak examples] based on the suggestions. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:42, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:I like the one on the left. The lines delineate the different franchises nicely. But now this is raising an issue with the box title... "Featured series" is a bit of a misnomer, isn't it? Since it's mostly now featuring "recent/current fiction". Perhaps "Recent releases"? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:46, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
::I'm cool with that rename. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:15, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
:I also like the one on the left, but I think I missed something. Why doesn't ''Alternity'' get a logo? Just because the releases are less frequent, or because it's "secondary" fiction (i.e. pack-in), or something else? - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 06:30, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
::The former. See my "It doesn't necessarily have to be only four logo features;" comment about five comments above for all my thoughts. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 09:36, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
:::We need to keep page layout in mind. I think we need to make sure that we don't overload the "Recent Releases" box, which could easily push other boxes down. Remember that the "this day in history" and "coming up" boxes can be quite long. And once ''WFC'' and/or ''Prime'' gets going full-tilt as the primary fiction/franchise, we're going to want to expand that featured box a little as we had ''Animated'' and ''Revenge''. As such... we might want to keep it to at '''most''' three rows of smaller banners with the most recent fiction as a text link under, or just the four in the example as "semi-permanents" with the other "lessers" getting the pure-text link below to conserve space. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:36, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
:I'd consider renaming it "Current Releases" because that's, uh, what it is. It's whatever dropped most recently. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:49, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
::Indeed. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:36, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
:::Hrm. If we do rename this, should we move it, or create a new template? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:51, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

== Upcoming releases ==

We have upcoming [[Transformers: Sector 7]] and IDW's Prime graphic novel. With the former leading into TF3, I guess we should replace the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' section and put the Sector 7 releases there. We may have to swap out the ''War for Cybertron'' banner with a TF:Prime one for the latter? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:32, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

== Chaos/Police Action ==
Right now IDW's ongoing series has two different stories in alternating issues, should we treat them as two distinct stories or just leave Heart of Darkness #4 up until the new series starts? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 20:38, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== Rescue Bots ==

So... I guess it's time to swap out Animated for Rescue Bots? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:47, 18 December 2011 (EST)
:DOTM should probably be removed as well.

Well, here's how I'm thinking it should lay out...
*Prime to the very top.
* IDW and Rescue Bots to the top double-row
* TFCC and uh... DOTM to the bottom double-row. Is Classified part of the movie universe? Should we consolidate those?
* Animated moves to the text at the bottom.
Thoughts? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:44, 18 December 2011 (EST)
::That sounds reasonable to me. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 19:50, 18 December 2011 (EST)
:::Done. But the navigation side bar still needs messing with. (We still have WfC up there, for instance.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:09, 18 December 2011 (EST)
::::We should probably have Rescue Bots instead of WFC. Do we still need Dark of the Moon, and is it too early for Fall of Cybertron? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:22, 18 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I think DOTM should be replaced with [[Live-action film series]], especially when Hasbro pulls out the "Movie Trilogy" line. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:29, 18 December 2011 (EST)

== DOTM ==
It's been there for almost a year already, so is it really needed anymore? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:32, 18 June 2012 (EDT)

== Old stuff ==

When should some of the old stuff here be removed? Predacons Rising in particular was five months ago... [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 13:48, 13 March 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah that and "Fury from the Deep" (since there have been two or three issues no one's added since then) should probably be removed. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:16, 13 March 2014 (EDT)

==Transformers vs GI Joe==
Can we put Issue 0 back and have more than one issue of the TF vs GI Joe comic up here, like we have the last two episodes of Rescue Bots and three TF:Legends events? That empty space is bugging me. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 08:31, 2 August 2014 (EDT)

==[[Transformers Rising]]==
Since TF R is also an episodic event based game, can a section be added for that game as well?

== Punishment ==

Remember, it comes out in print for the first time in a month or so... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 20:13, 14 December 2014 (EST)
:Well, when it does we can always put it back up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:11, 14 December 2014 (EST)

== Robots in Disguise US screenings ==

Once Cartoon Network play Trust Exercises, should we switch the listing on the main page to highlight the current episode in the US? It seems like having the current US episode fairly prominent would be a good idea to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 06:30, 29 March 2015 (EDT)
:Anyone? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:39, 4 April 2015 (EDT)

==Cybertron's Most Wanted==

Where should I add the link to the botcon '15 comic for the TFCC box? Above "Another Light"? Replacing out "Collections"? --[[User:Heatsync|Heatsync]] ([[User talk:Heatsync|talk]]) 08:11, 25 June 2015 (EDT)
:Probably Head Games, since it's the oldest release. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:37, 25 June 2015 (EDT)

==Getting a little out of hand==
11 entries in the TFCC section? 6 in GI Joe vs TF, a single comic title? Something needs to be done to tighten this up, because it's starting to look ridiculous. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 16:20, 14 May 2016 (EDT)

== Machinima Combiner Wars ==

Do we need to put the recent release of Machinima's Combiner Wars episode one on here, somehow? I don't know what the guidelines are for stuff like this. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 12:33, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

Main Page/schedule

2016-08-05T16:18:04Z

Stealthyboy:

* '''[[August 6|Aug 06]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Pizza Pi Party]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[August 10|Aug 10]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Till All Are One|Till All Are One]]'' [[Till All Are One issue 3|#3]] and ''[[Transformers: War Within Omnibus]]'' (reprint) are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[August 13|Aug 13]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Uninvited Guest]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[August 17|Aug 17]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[More than Meets the Eye issue 56|#56]], ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers vol. 2]]'' [[The Transformers vol. 2 issue 56|#56]], ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 comic)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'': ''More than Meets the Eye'' TPB and the ''[[The Transformers: Sins of the Wreckers|Sins of the Wreckers]]'' TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[August 27|Aug 27]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Camp Cody]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]]. [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Delta Magnus#Masterpiece|MP-31 Delta Magnus]], ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Computron (G1)|Computicon]], ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-24 Shockwave]] & [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]], [[Blurr (G1)#Legends|LG-25 Blurr]], and [[Scourge (G1)#Legends|LG-26 Scourge]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Sideswipe (WFC)|TAV 53 Hyper Surge Sideswipe]] and [[Scorponok (WFC)|TAV 54 Scorponok]].
* '''[[August 31|Aug 31]]''' — ''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'' Volume 3 TPB is released by [[IDW Publishing]].

* '''[[September 7|Sep 07]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Till All Are One|Till All Are One]]'' [[Till All Are One issue 4|#4]] and ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Phase Two: Volume 4|The IDW Collection Phase Two: Volume 4]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[September 14|Sep 14]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers vol. 2]]'' [[The Transformers vol. 2 issue 57|#57]], ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' Vol. 10 TPB and ''[[Revolution]]'' [[Revolution issue 1|#1]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[September 21|Sep 21]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[More than Meets the Eye issue 57|#57]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[September 24|Sep 24]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-14+ Alert Anime Colors Edition]], ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Blaster (G1)#Legends|LG-27 Broadcast]], [[Rewind (G1)#Legends|LG-28 Rewind]] & [[Nightbeat (G1)#Legends|Nightbeat]], [[Wheelie (G1)#Legends|LG-29 Wheelie]] & [[Shūta Gō|Goshooter]], [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Legends|LG-30 Weirdwolf]], and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Legends|LG-31 Fortress Maximus]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Windblade (RID)|TAV 55 Windblade]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Adventure)|TAV 56 Nemesis Prime]].
* '''[[September 28|Sep 28]]''' — ''[[Revolution]]'' [[Revolution issue 2|#2]] and the ''[[Revolution: Road To Revolution Special]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].

* '''[[October 29|Oct 29]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Primal/toys#Masterpiece|MP-32 Convoy (Beast Wars)]], ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Sky Reign|Lynxmaster]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Starscream (WFC)|TAV 57 Hyper Surge Starscream]], [[Windstrike|TAV 58 Windstrike]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], [[Ratchet (WFC)|TAV 59 Ratchet]] and [[Bisk|TAV 60 Bisk]].

* '''[[November 26|Nov 26]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Inferno (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-33 Inferno]], ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Chromedome (G1)#Legends|LG-32 Chromedome]], [[Highbrow (G1)#Legends|LG-33 Highbrow]], [[Mindwipe (G1)#Legends|LG-34 Wipe]], [[Ginrai#Legends|LG-35 Super Ginrai]], [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-36 Soundwave]], [[Ravage (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-37 Jaguar]] & [[Bullhorn (Masterforce)#Legends|Bullhorn]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-38 Condor]] & [[Apeface#Legends|Apeface]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|TAV 61 God Optimus Prime Micron Set]] and [[Starscream (WFC)|TAV 62 Starscream]].

* '''[[Template: December|Dec ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Brainstorm (G1)#Legends|LG-39 Brainstorm]] and [[Astrotrain (G1)#Legends|LG-40 Astrotrain]].
===2017===
* '''[[January 24|Jan 24]]''' — ''[[The Transformers Classics UK Volume 6]]'' is currently scheduled to release by [[IDW Publishing]] (Amazon date - likely earlier by retailers).
* '''[[June 23|Jun 23]]''' — ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|Transformers: The Last Knight]]'' is currently scheduled to release.
* '''[[December 31|Dec 31]]''' — Last day the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|''Robots in Disguise'' mobile game]] is scheduled to be available for download.

===2018===
* '''[[June 8|Jun 08]]''' — ''[[Transformers 6]]'', otherwise known as the [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] movie, is currently scheduled to release.

===2019===
* '''[[June 28|Jun 28]]''' — ''[[Transformers 7]]'' is currently scheduled to release.

<noinclude>[[Category:Main Page templates]]</noinclude>

The Fall

2016-08-05T15:34:37Z

Stealthyboy:

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'''Two Warriors Come Out of the Sky'''

==Synopsis==
In orbit above [[Caminus]], the space bridge disgorges the [[Combiner]]s [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], already gripped in battle. The two trade blows as they fall towards the planet's surface, and the [[Decepticon]] takes the upper hand, tearing off [[Nosecone (G1)|Nosecone]] and [[Afterburner (G1)|Afterbreaker]] as they approach the spires below. Crashing to the ground, Computron insists on the illogicality of their fight, but is silenced by a foot to the face from a triumphant Menasor.

The Decepticon combiner quickly comes under fire, however, from a pair of Camiens—former [[cityspeaker]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and her companion [[Maxima]]. Menasor gives chase, but comes to a halt after Windblade cuts off his left leg, [[Wildrider (G1)|Brake-Neck]]. The Combiner retaliates with a blow that knocks Maxima's arm clean off, and grabs hold of Windblade. In a self-sacrificial play, Maxima burns her jets in Menasor's face, freeing Windblade but earning herself a fatal blow from the Combiner in the process.

In a rage, Windblade cleaves [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] from Menasor's shoulder and then slices the entire combiner in half at the waist. With his dying words, the Decepticon combiner insists that Windblade is not fighting for her planet or friends, but is just a "killer" like him, and warns that the council on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has plans to use the [[Enigma of Combination]] to raise an army of Combiners. With Menasor dead, Windblade sheds tears for Maxima, before taking her fallen comrade's blaster and heading through the space bridge to Cybertron, not noticing that Computron clings to life.

On Cybertron, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] awaits...

==Featured characters==
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*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (5)

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*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] (2)

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*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (3)
*[[Maxima]] (4)

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==Quotes==
"It is illogical for Menasor and Computron to fight. Conclusion: Combiners should cease fighting and-" ''[Menasor punches Computron through a building]'' "...Probability of my survival is-"

''[Menasor stomps on Computron's head] ''"ZERO!"
:—'''Computron''' pleading with '''Menasor''', who isn't too interested.

"What a ''nerd''."
:—'''Menasor''' is unimpressed with '''Computron'''.

"You said 'For Caminus, and Maxima', we both know that's not true. Hah... hah... you're just a killer, like me."
:— '''Menasor''' doing his best [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmoLd_YiQ-U Liquid Snake impression].

==Notes==
*Unsurprisingly, Menasor appears in his ''[[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]]'' toy design, featuring Wildrider/Brake-Neck rather than [[Offroad]] for his left leg.
*Computron, meanwhile, has the torso of his Generation 1 toy with the head and limbs of his [[Computron (G1)#Generations|''Combiner Wars'' figure]], the result of design revisions mid-way through production.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1064652-combiner-wars-computron-official-images-50.html#post13832933 Guido Guidi posting on TFW2005]</ref>
*Windblade's face mask appears to sort of... ''fall off'' in sections, rather than retracting in any kind of sensible manner.
*Maxima's facial markings imply that she is a [[cityspeaker]] like Windblade.

==External links==
*[https://www.go90.com/profiles/va_0a41e9fb10434ab4a483fc2c60e07885 "The Fall" on Go90] (US only)
*[https://youtu.be/4YHxMeGDdqs "The Fall" on YouTube] (non-US only)

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Combiner Wars episodes]]

Kaon (G1)

2016-08-01T16:11:09Z

Stealthyboy:

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{{disambig3|Kaon}}
:''Kaon is a Decepticon from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:MTMTE8 Kaon transforms.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Not... THE COMFY CHAIR!!!]]
'''Kaon''' is the communications officer of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and the one responsible for maintaining its [[The List|hit list]]. A veritable dynamo, his frame arcs with electricity from the generator in his chest, arcing out from his hands and the twin [[Nikola Tesla|Tesla]] coils mounted on his shoulders. In another life he might have bent this gift to the service of his fellow bots, but when he assumes [[alternate mode]] its true purpose is made known. Thousands of watts of electricity are discharged directly into the [[cranial chamber]]s of those who would defy [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. Unlike in [[human]]s, this procedure is not ''always'' fatal.

Despite his chilly demeanor (and his creepy, cold, dead, empty, lifeless, soulless, bottomless, horrifying black eyes), he can become almost giddy in the execution of his duties, whether it's excitedly tracking down the D.J.D.'s next target or gleefully ripping an Autobot to shreds.

Kaon owns a partially domesticated [[turbofox]] [[Sparkeater (creature)|sparkeater]] known only as "[[the Pet]]."

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{ongoing}}
Kaon was [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|constructed cold]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

When the Decepticon [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] was caught for getting bribed to destroy a fleet of [[Warworld|War Worlds]], Kaon electrocuted him and left him to get talked to death by [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]. Kaon and the other members were then ordered by Tarn to move on to their next target, [[Fulcrum]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}

[[File:Mtmte08-p16-kaon-electricity.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.6|ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE GIGAWATTS]]
On arrival at [[Clemency]], they met with resistance from Fulcrum's new friends, the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]], which automatically got them all put on The List. After pinning [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] down so that [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] could impale his face, Kaon went on to introduce [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] to the Pet and use his electric powers to cripple [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]]'s [[Cybernought]] long enough for Tarn to destroy it. Following the apparent death of Fulcrum, he detected the [[energy signature]] of [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and informed Tarn, who immediately ordered the D.J.D. to leave in search of this new target. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} Aboard the ''[[Peaceful Tyranny]]'', Tarn showed concern as Kaon spontaneously began [[universal killswitch|writhing in agony]] right in front of him. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Kaon was comforted by the Pet when the pain ceased. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}

Arriving at Overlord's location, the ''[[Lost Light]]'' (in reality, one of two created by a malfunction of the ship's quantum engines), near the planet [[Ofsted XVII]], the D.J.D. set about murdering the ship's crew of Autobots. Kaon personally killed [[Dipstick]] by shocking him to death before reaching the still-restrained Overlord. Tarn chopped his head off with a chainsaw while Kaon smirked, and the D.J.D. left the ship. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}} {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

When the D.J.D. returned to the murder site 17 months later to steal the Lost Light's quantum engines, they found that the [[Galactic Council]] and the [[Black Block Consortia]] were fighting over the same prize over Ofsted. The two sides joined forces to attack the D.J.D. Kaon and Vos pursued a Council squad to the planet's surface when reinforcements arrived, forcing the D.J.D to retreat with out them. As a result, Kaon and Vos were left near-dead in a wrecked campus. The kindness of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] saw Vos brought back from the brink... at which point he attacked the Autobot, forcing him to raise a forcefield. Kaon was inside the field in altmode: the forcefield charged him up and he gleefully tore Trailcutter to pieces. When the Autobots protested that Megatron had declared the war over, Kaon took Trailcutter's post-war copy of ''[[Towards Peace]]'' to check ''but smashed Trailcutter's brain first anyway''. Vos and himself were then teleported back onto the ''Peaceful Tyranny'' by Helex. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}}

In the D.J.D. headquarters on Clemency, Kaon explained the unique properties of [[Nuke]] to [[Nickel]]. He later accompanied Tarn to a rendezvous with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], tapping into and hijacking the inter-Decepticon radio of the renegade's stolen [[Warworld]] for Tarn's use. He became concerned when Tarn and Deathsaurus came to blows, but Vos convinced him not to intervene.

After the brawl, the Decepticons formed one big happy family out to get Megatron {{storylink|The Permanent Revolution}} and finally ambushed him and his closest allies at the [[Censere|Necrobot's]] planet. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} A siege commenced. When [[Ten]] was caught outside of it, a gleeful Kaon and his chums ripped the mech to pieces before [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] showed up. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} This wouldn't have mattered a damn except that Drift noticed Kaon got upset when the Pet was hurt and duly took the critter hostage. Kaon freaked out and demanded everyone let the Autobots retreat, much to [[Helex (DJD)|Helex's]] anger.

Kaon rushed to a strategy powwow, distressed by the loss of the Pet and begging Tarn that they had to get him back. Realising just how much Kaon had truly cared for the turbofox, Tarn embraced his comrade...

...and, to Nickel's horror, ripped Kaon's head off because this sentiment was a weakness that he wouldn't allow his men to feel.

Unwittingly ironic, Tarn smashed Kaon's head and brain module flat against [[Overlord (Masterforce)|the nearest surface]]. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}}

===''Kre-O'' comic===
[[File:Kre-O Kaon.jpg|thumb|Ha!]]
Kaon participated in an attack led by [[Megatron (Kre-O)|Megatron]] to conquer [[Metroplex (Kre-O)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|Two Giant Bases! Everybody Getting Along, Come On, Fight!}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Kaon and the rest of the D.J.D. hunted down Blackshadow to the planet Clemency. Finding their target holed up with Decepticon scavengers, the D.J.D. destroyed the lot of them before moving on to their next assignment. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (Legends)|Rules of Disengagement}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*According to [[Alex Milne]], Kaon was the most difficult member of the Decepticon Justice Division to design.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/notes/transformers/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-vol-2-alex-milne-interview/395646703838863 Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye vol. 2 Alex Milne interview]</ref>
*Kreon Kaon wears a repainted [[Ratchet (Kre-O)|Ratchet]] helmet and some sort of drill setup on his back.
*It is revealed in "[[Zero Point]]" that the colour of a Cybertronian's optics are directly influenced by their spark type, and the healthier the spark, the brighter the glow. What this means for Kaon's pitch black optics is unknown.
*As of [[The_Dying_of_the_Light_Part_6:_Do_Not_Go_Gentle|More than Meets the Eye #55]], Kaon is the only member of the Decepticon Justice Division whose real name is unknown.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Comic-only Decepticons]]
[[Category:Communications specialists]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kre-O Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kreons]]

All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights

2016-07-28T08:58:31Z

Stealthyboy: /* Other trivia */

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|title="All Hail Optimus Part 6:<br>No Fair Fights"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[July 27]], [[2016]] (digital)
|coverdate=July 2016
|written by=[[John Barber]]
|art by=[[Andrew Griffith]]
|colors=[[Josh Burcham]]
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|editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]
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'''Galvatron faces down Optimus, Soundwave, and Arcee in final battle.'''

==Synopsis==
On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] is horrified to recognize the [[Titan (IDW)|Titan]] which [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] has raised from beneath the [[Earth]] as [[Metrotitan (Zone)|the same one]] which dubbed him the "Chosen One." [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] bursts into the room to summon Starscream to an emergency meeting of the [[Council of Worlds]]; thanks to the reporters Starscream to sent to Earth, all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] has just seen a live broadcast of the Titan's emergence, and the tide of public opinion is quickly turning.

On Earth, [[Skywarp (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Skywarp]] teleports himself, [[G.B. Blackrock|Blackrock]], [[Marissa Faireborn|Faireborn]], and [[Ayana Jones|Jones]] to the [[White House]], much to the consternation of the [[President of the United States|President]]. Blackrock puts on his game face, boastfully assuring the President that with his help, they will be able to prevent war from breaking out with the Cybertronians. When the President inquires about the Titan, Skywarp tries to explain their holiness in Cybertronian culture, but the President isn't interested in philosophy; rather, she wants tangible assets, including whatever they can recover from the [[Autobot]]s' and [[Decepticon]]s' recent battle beneath the [[Indian Ocean]].

After surveying the underwater battlefield, [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] responds to [[Arcee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Arcee]]'s order to surface. Cosmos assumes she wants him to go on yet another observation mission, so he is surprised when she grabs onto him and orders him to take off after [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], revealing that Prime has ordered them to take out [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] once and for all. The four Transformers brave the rigors of superluminal spaceflight as they engage in a dogfight that leads them to the vicinity of [[Jupiter]], whereupon Galvatron is able to cripple Cosmos with a cannon blast. Realizing that Galvatron is heading for [[Sanctuary Station]], Cosmos uses the last of his energy to blast Astrotrain's engine, sending him and Galvatron plummeting towards Jupiter. Cosmos urges Arcee to leave him behind and finish Galvatron in order to save [[Soundwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Soundwave]]'s dream of peace; Arcee is a little reluctant at first but does as he says when [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] show up to take Cosmos to Sanctuary Station for repairs.

Badly damaged and falling through Jupiter's atmosphere, Astrotrain suggests to Galvatron that they separate, but Galvatron has other plans: he takes hold of the shuttle-mode Astrotrain and hurls him at the pursuing Arcee, who remorselessly hacks him to pieces to clear her path. She and Galvatron engage in close-quarters combat once more, as Galvatron mocks her faith in Prime, believing he will eventually betray all who follow him. But as Arcee points out, Galvatron has ''already'' betrayed everyone on ''his'' side, which is why he now stands alone... while Arcee stands with Optimus Prime and Soundwave, who now emerge out of Jupiter's gas clouds to join the fight. Outraged at their temerity, Galvatron engages all three of his opponents, holding his own until Soundwave shoots him in the back. Galvatron is surprised by the "dishonorable" move; Prime tells him that this fight is not about "honor," but about ensuring Galvatron will never threaten anyone again. Prime and Galvatron grapple, with Galvatron wrenching Prime's [[mouthplate]] off, until Arcee swoops in and sinks her swords into Galvatron's cannon. The cannon explodes, taking Galvatron's arm and most of the right side of his body with it, and finally knocking the fight out of him. Soundwave entreats Galvatron to see things as he has come to, to realize that the Decepticon ideal of equality extends to all races, but Galvatron laughs in his face. Far worse things are coming, Galvatron warns: their battles on Earth have proven that his ancient enemies, [[Thirteen|the Primes]], still exist somewhere in the galaxy, and that [[Onyx Prime]] will soon arrive. For ''that'' reason, he will ally with them, not in the name of equality, but to fight a greater threat. Optimus somberly corrects Galvatron—nobody said anything about an alliance. Unlike Soundwave and himself, Galvatron has always put himself above everything else, including even his own ideals. Galvatron sees little difference between himself and what Prime has done on Earth; snatching his faceplate back and reattaching it, Prime tells Galvatron that if he was ''truly'' the same as him, if he thought only of himself, he would never be able to act in the greater good, or to do what he is about to do. Terrifying realization suddenly strikes Galvatron, and he declares that he unconditionally surrenders... at which point Prime blasts him point blank through what's left of his torso. Galvatron's body disintegrates, and Optimus grimly plucks the ancient Decepticon's lifeless head from his crumbling remains.

Back in the White House, the President prepares to depart for a [[United Nations]] meeting, warning Faireborn that, as soon-to-be-former director of the [[Earth Defense Command]], the failures of the last few days are likely to fall on her head. Jones tries to point out the positives, but the President won't hear it and storms out the door... straight into the shadow of the waiting Optimus Prime. Prime places Galvatron's severed head on the lawn, announcing that the Decepticon threat is over and reiterating that he comes in the name of peace. The raising of the Titan has inextricably linked Cybertron and Earth in a way that cannot be ignored, and Prime stands ready to commence diplomatic relations with the rest of the world, using the city-mode Titan as an embassy—an [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]].

On Cybertron, Starscream endures the council meeting, frustrated and impotent, his "holy appointment" as the Chosen One all but forgotten now that the presence of a Titan on Earth seems to prove it as a colony planet, and Optimus's ability to raise it apparently authenticates the divine rightness of his actions as a "true" Prime. The hallucinatory [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] appears to him once again to gloat, reminding him that he always warned him that Optimus Prime would triumph.

==Featured characters==
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*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (4)
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (11)
*[[Kup (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Kup]] (12)
*[[Jazz (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jazz]] (13)
*? (14)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Thundercracker]] (15)
*[[Pyra Magna]] (16)
*[[Jumpstream]] (17)*
*[[Dust Up]] (18)*
*[[Jetfire (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jetfire]] (19)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Sunstreaker]] (20)
*[[Stormclash]] or [[Skyburst (G1)|Skyburst]] (21)
*[[Arcee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Arcee]] (22)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (28)
*[[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (31)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] hallucination (41)

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*[[Skywarp (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Skywarp]] (6)
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (23)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] (24)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (25)
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] (26)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Soundwave]] (27)

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*[[Zilong Qian]] (8)
*[[President of the United States]] (9)
*[[Marissa Faireborn]] (10)
*[[Ayana Jones]] (29)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (40)

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*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (1)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (2)
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] (3)
*[[Seeker clone]]s (5)
*[[G.B. Blackrock|Garrison Blackrock]] (7)
*[[Aileron]] (30)
*[[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] (32)
*[[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]] (33)
*[[Tigatron]] (34)
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] (35)
*[[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]] (36)
*[[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] (37)
*[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] (38)
*[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] (39)
}}

<nowiki>*</nowiki>Tough to tell which is which.

==Quotes==
"Lookee here. The big green '''cookie's''' got a '''hole''' in him."<br>
"'''Squak!''' Guess that makes him a '''doughnut.'''"<br>
"He actually reminds me of a '''combiner'''."<br>
"Why is '''that'''?"<br>
"Because the '''hole's''' better than the '''parts.'''"
:—'''Laserbeak''' and '''Buzzsaw'''

"'''HELP ME!''' I can't '''stop!'''"<br>
"You could have stopped '''years''' ago."<br>
''(SHUNK)''
:—'''Astrotrain's''' last words, and '''Arcee's''' riposte

"Today—'''one''' shall stand, and '''two''' shall fall!"<br>
''(WRUNK)''<br>
"No cliches, Galvatron."
:—'''Galvatron''' trots out an old line, but '''Optimus''' isn't having it

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Starscream identifies the Titan found on Earth last issue as the same one who dubbed him the Chosen One in the [[Primus: All Good Things|2012 ''Robots in Disguise'' annual]], and confirms last issue's implied retcon that the species name has been reduced from "Metrotitan" to just "Titan," and that ''this'' Titan is actually ''named'' [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]]. In actuality, though, this "retcon" was suggested as early as [[The End of the Beginning of the World|issue #11]], in which "Metrotitan" was used as a proper noun for the character—it's just that nobody noticed!
*Jones notes that the EDC have secured "two Cybertronian assets." Assuming Skywarp is one, the identity of the second is revealed in the second part of the [[Revolution Prelude]].
*Bumblebee notes that Starscream never believed Metrotitan's claim that he was Chosen One. We saw Starscream expressing this disbelief right away, in issue #11.

===Transformers references===
*You don't need to us to point out the overused line from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' that Galvatron quotes, above, 'cause Optimus is as sick of it as we are.
*The President mistakenly called Skywarp "[[Spacewarp]]."
*Galvatron's head is the only thing that survived the destruction of his body. '''Why in the world''' would Galvatron's head [[Titan Master#Toys|be of any importance?]].

===Real-life references===
*The title of this issue comes from the {{w|Prick (band)|Prick}} song of the same name.

===Errors===
*The Torchbearer copter-twin who appears on page 3, panel 1, looks to have her helicopter rotors hanging ''down'' her back, from her shoulder blades, rather than sticking ''up'' from her lower back. [[Swift]], who was present at the scene last issue, has blades like this, but it doesn't look like it's supposed to be her.

===Other trivia===
*Originally intended for release on July 27, physical copies of this issue were delayed at the last minute. The issue was released on multiple digital platforms as normal, though not all.
*This issue also contains the first part of the [[Revolution Prelude]] a four-page back-up strip laying the groundwork for September's ''[[Revolution]]'' crossover which appears in several of IDW's July titles.

===Soundtrack===
Writer John Barber followed in [[James Roberts]]'s footsteps by tweeting the book's "first ever playlist," "in honor of the end of All Hail Optimus."

*"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZNjKskk4mI Chimes Broken]" by {{w|Holy Fuck|Holy F**k}} (''Language'', John!)
*"Stomach It" by {{w|Olga Bell}}
*"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_4ItfeIE80 No Fair Fights]" by {{w|Prick (band)|Prick}}

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular cover:''' Optimus Prime, Arcee, Soundwave, and Cosmos rocket through space, by [[Andrew Griffith]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' The Autobots and [[Rom|Rom the Space Knight]], by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]; part of a series of Rom-themed covers featured on numerous IDW titles in July, in celebration of the launch of the character's new ongoing series.
*'''Retailer incentive cover:''' Optimus versus Galvatron, by [[Carlos Valenzuela]]
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</gallery>

===Advertisements===
*''The Transformers'' #56
*''[[Revolution]]'' checklist

==External links==
*[http://www.nerdspan.com/july-27th-idw-previews-rom-1-x-files-annual-2016-micronauts-4/ Preview]

Talk:Tarn (G1)

2016-07-28T08:57:33Z

Stealthyboy:

So, given the new revelations of Tarn's identity, what do we do with the two pages? Do we merge Glitch into this one, this one into Glitch, or leave the two seperate? [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 04:02, 28 July 2016 (EDT)
:We should wait for the spoiler period to expire before doing any merging to avoid doing anything spoilery. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:21, 28 July 2016 (EDT)
::Right, yes of course, but after that period is over, what would be the best way of dealing with the issue? [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 04:57, 28 July 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Tarn (G1)

2016-07-28T08:02:50Z

Stealthyboy: Created page with "So, given the new revelations of Tarn's identity, what do we do with the two pages? Do we merge Glitch into this one, this one into Glitch, or leave the two seperate? ~~~~"

Adventure Team

2016-07-06T17:33:01Z

Stealthyboy:

{{disambig2|the [[human]] [[United States military|military]] task force|the [[Mini-Con]] team|Adventure Mini-Con Team}}
:''The Adventure Team is a [[human]] organization from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

'''Adventure Team''' was a special mission force for the United States military. Created in 1963 by [[John F. Kennedy]] and led by [[Joe Colton|Joseph Colton]], Adventure Team assembled mission specialists to tackle threats anywhere from the four corners of the [[Earth]]... and beyond.

Adventure Team ceased operating in the late 1970s, but it served as the model for the later [[G.I. Joe (team)|Counter-terrorist Group Delta]] which was named G.I. Joe in honor of Joe Colton.

Members include:

* Joe Colton (team leader)
* [[Atomic Man|Mike Power, the Atomic Man]]
* Miles Manheim

==Fiction==
===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===

An Adventure Team mission managed to piss off [[Mihai|General Mihai]] and they fled across the [[Himalayas]] to escape. Unfortunately, en route they (and their pursuers) ran afoul of [[Cobra-La]] and their Decepticon allies. Mike Power was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Colton taken prisoner. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: Black Horizon}}

==External link==
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe_Adventure_Team G.I. Joe Adventure Team at Wikipedia]

[[Category:G.I. Joe]]

Talk:Secret Raiders: A Revolution Prelude

2016-07-06T15:05:00Z

Stealthyboy: Created page with "==Issue differences== As I mentioned on the Till All Are One #2 talk page, this is not actually in the comixology version of that comic, which instead has a preview for ROM #1..."

==Issue differences==
As I mentioned on the Till All Are One #2 talk page, this is not actually in the comixology version of that comic, which instead has a preview for ROM #1. Unsure on how to work this into the article (or even if it should be on this one, hence my putting this on both talk pages) [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 11:05, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Applicable Skills

2016-07-06T14:34:00Z

Stealthyboy: Created page with "==Previews== I'm a little confused, I bought this issue on comixology, and it doesn't have Road to Revolution #1. Instead mine has a preview for ROM #1. I assume that this is ..."

==Previews==
I'm a little confused, I bought this issue on comixology, and it doesn't have Road to Revolution #1. Instead mine has a preview for ROM #1. I assume that this is a thing that needs noting, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about that... [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 10:34, 6 July 2016 (EDT)

Thrashclaw

2016-06-06T12:29:19Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Thrashclaw is an ex-[[Decepticon]] [[Raptoricon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:LifeFindsAWay-Thrash.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Don't turn your back to the cage."]]

Once a mercenary and assassin on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], '''Thrashclaw''' now leads her pack of Raptoricons on a strange, alien world, locked in an endless skirmish with the marauding [[Vespoid]] aliens who call the planet home. In spite of the gruesome fights that she's had to take part in, Thrashclaw is what you might call "noble" in comparison to most other Decepticons, preferring to fight honorably. Like the rest of her old team, she's well-adapted to the rigors of her new life, perfectly at home in her new dromaeosaurid [[beast mode]].

She sometimes goes by the name '''Thrash'''.

==Fiction==
===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
Long ago, Thrashclaw learned about hand-to-hand combat from a [[Dinobot (BW)|mentor]], from whom she also adopted a rigid code of honor.

From there Thrashclaw and another Decepticon named [[Slice (G1)|Slice]] found work as assassins for hire. News of their exploits proved popular on secret Decepticon sub-frequencies and forums. A young [[Autobot]] named [[Shred]], who had been assigned to eavesdrop on said secret channels, had become a fan of theirs. After tracking them down and basically begging to join, the duo reluctantly acquiesced.

The group began working for the [[Kolkular Powerbase]], a criminal syndicate, although Thrashclaw and Slice grew tired of their employer's endless scheming. Their last job would be a mission to an [[Vespoid planet|uncharted jungle world]]. To most other Decepticons, the ''[[Velocity (ship)|Velocity]]'''s voyage was nothing more than an ordinary expedition to a primitive world. Their real mission, however, was to track down and secure a mysterious energy signature.

The planet itself was decidedly unnatural, containing more than 400 examples of non-native flora and fauna and massive reserves of untapped [[energon]]; the [[Energon radiation|radiation]] proving hazardous to their systems. Most mysterious of all, however, was a massive research complex of alien origin. Most prominent of all, however, was their discovery of [[Gnash]]: a powerful but malformed Cybertronian who had been heavily experimented on. Thrashclaw's crew also discovered samples of advanced technology that worked to integrate organic and mechanical systems. Although the technology was not of [[Transformer]] origin, the Cybertronians realized that they could integrate this [[techno-organic]] system into their superstructures without difficulty.

Not wanting to return to Cybertron, the four Transformers decided to remain on this new planet. Adopting new, energon-proof beast modes based on some of the local animals, they became known as the Raptoricons. The Raptoricons encountered the Vespoids, an aggressive insectoid race that also inhabited the planet. Although Thrashclaw tried to make peace with the aliens, the two factions would clash repeatedly in a series of skirmishes, neither side able to overpower the other.

Following the crash of a [[stasis pod]], the Raptoricons discovered [[Fractyl]] being held hostage by the Vespoids. The Raptoricons rescued him from the sacrificial altar, and Thrashclaw invited him back to their base. Along the way, Thrashclaw filled Fractyl in on the anomalous planet that they'd found themselves on. After arriving at their base, Thrashclaw was about to interrogate Fractyl, but another Vespoid attack cut the interrogation session short. The Raptoricons were able to repulse the attack, but not without Shred suffering severe damage and Gnash taken hostage by the aliens.

Thrashclaw and Slice planned to confront the Vespoids head on, but Fractyl realized that there might be a connection between the [[Greenergon|mysterious crystal]] that he'd discovered and Gnash's odd energy readings. Although they initially denied his request to stay behind on the ship, Fractyl finally confessed that Cybertron itself had been destroyed by [[Thunder Mayhem]]. Thrashclaw ordered Shred to keep an eye on the newcomer while she and Slice headed to the Vespoid nest, where they attacked. Although they put up a fight, the thousands of Vespoids threatened to overwhelm them. Fortunately, Shred and Fractyl - who had taken the liberty of reformatting himself into a pterosaur - arrived, realizing that the Vespoids simply wanted to feed on the greenergon beneath their ship, and their abduction of Gnash was a misguided attempt at helping the mutated Transformer.

After [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] and [[Punch|Counterpunch]] arrived, Thrashclaw and the Raptoricons ratified a proper truce between themselves and the Vespoid Queen, establishing a mine for Vespoids near their ship. Although Impactor offered them a ride off-planet, Thrashclaw and the other Raptoricons declined, as they were more than happy to remain on their adopted homeworld. {{storylink|Life Finds a Way}}

[[Category:Assassins]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Prose-only Transformers]]

Thrashclaw

2016-06-06T12:26:57Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Thrashclaw is an ex-[[Decepticon]] [[Raptoricon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:LifeFindsAWay-Thrash.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Don't turn your back to the cage."]]

Once a mercenary and assassin on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], '''Thrashclaw''' now leads her pack of Raptoricons on a strange, alien world, locked in an endless skirmish with the marauding [[Vespoid]] aliens who call the planet home. In spite of the gruesome fights that she's had to take part in, Thrashclaw is what you might call "noble" in comparison to most other Decepticons, preferring to fight honorably. Like the rest of her old team, she's well-adapted to the rigors of her new life, perfectly at home in her new dromaeosaurid [[beast mode]].

She sometimes goes by the name '''Thrash'''.

==Fiction==
===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
Long ago, Thrashclaw learned about hand-to-hand combat from a [[Dinobot (BW)|mentor]], from whom she also adopted a rigid code of honor.

From there Thrashclaw and another Decepticon named [[Slice (G1)|Slice]] found work as assassins for hire. News of their exploits proved popular on secret Decepticon sub-frequencies and forums. A young [[Autobot]] named [[Shred]], who had been assigned to eavesdrop on said secret channels, had become a fan of theirs. After tracking them down and basically begging to join, the duo reluctantly acquiesced.

The group began working for the [[Kolkular Powerbase]], a criminal syndicate, although Thrashclaw and Slice grew tired of their employer's endless scheming. Their last job would be a mission to an [[Vespoid planet|uncharted jungle world]]. To most other Decepticons, the ''[[Velocity (ship)|Velocity]]'''s voyage was nothing more than an ordinary expedition to a primitive world. Their real mission, however, was to track down and secure a mysterious energy signature.

The planet itself was decidedly unnatural, containing more than 400 examples of non-native flora and fauna and massive reserves of untapped [[energon]]; the [[Energon radiation|radiation]] proving hazardous to their systems. Most mysterious of all, however, was a massive research complex of alien origin. Most prominent of all, however, was their discovery of [[Gnash]]: a powerful but malformed Cybertronian who had been heavily experimented on. Thrashclaw's crew also discovered samples of advanced technology that worked to integrate organic and mechanical systems. Although the technology was not of [[Transformer]] origin, the Cybertronians realized that they could integrate this [[techno-organic]] system into their superstructures without difficulty.

Not wanting to return to Cybertron, the four Transformers decided to remain on this new planet. Adopting new, energon-proof beast modes based on some of the local animals, they became known as the Raptoricons. The Raptoricons encountered the Vespoids, an aggressive insectoid race that also inhabited the planet. Although Thrashclaw tried to make peace with the aliens, the two factions would clash repeatedly in a series of skirmishes, neither side able to overpower the other.

Following the crash of a [[stasis pod]], the Raptoricons discovered [[Fractyl]] being held hostage by the Vespoids. The Raptoricons rescued him from the sacrificial altar, and Thrashclaw invited him back to their base. Along the way, Thrashclaw filled Fractyl in on the anomalous planet that they'd found themselves on. After arriving at their base, Thrashclaw was about to interrogate Fractyl, but another Vespoid attack cut the interrogation session short. The Raptoricons were able to repulse the attack, but not without Shred suffering severe damage and Gnash taken hostage by the aliens.

Thrashclaw and Slice planned to confront the Vespoids head on, but Fractyl realized that there might be a connection between the [[Greenergon|mysterious crystal]] that he'd discovered and Gnash's odd energy readings. Although they initially denied his request to stay behind on the ship, Fractyl finally confessed that Cybertron itself had been destroyed by [[Thunder Mayhem]]. Thrashclaw ordered Shred to keep an eye on the newcomer while she and Slice headed to the Vespoid nest, where they attacked. Although they put up a fight, the thousands of Vespoids threatened to overwhelm them. Fortunately, Shred and Fractyl - who had taken the liberty of reformatting himself into a pterosaur - arrived, realizing that the Vespoids simply wanted to feed on the greenergon beneath their ship, and their abduction of Gnash was a misguided attempt at helping the mutated Transformer.

After [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] and [[Punch|Counterpunch]] arrived, Thrashclaw and the Raptoricons ratified a proper truce between themselves and the Vespoid Queen, establishing a mine for Vespoids near their shi. Although Impactor offered them a ride off-planet, Thrashclaw and the other Raptoricons declined, as they were more than happy to remain on their adopted homeworld. {{storylink|Life Finds a Way}}

[[Category:Assassins]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
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[[Category:Prose-only Transformers]]

Prisoner of War!

2016-05-14T23:24:40Z

Stealthyboy: /* Continuity errors */

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|prev=Power Play!
|next=The Last Stand
|title="Prisoner of War!"
|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #5–6
|prev2=Power Play!
|next2=The Last Stand
|image=MarvelUS-03.jpg
|caption=Is he strong? Listen, [[bud]], he made Megatron go thud.
|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|date=[[October 2]], [[1984]]
|coverdate=January [[1985]]
|writer=[[Jim Salicrup]]
|penciler=[[Frank Springer]]
|inker=[[Kim DeMulder]], [[Mike Esposito]]
|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov]]
|letterers=[[Janice Chiang]] & Others
|editor=[[Bob Budiansky]]
|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
}}
'''When Sparkplug is kidnapped, it's up to Gears and Spider-Man to save him.'''

==Synopsis==
The [[Decepticon]]s bring [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] to their [[Fortress Sinister|fortress]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] deliberates internally on [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s loyalty. The Decepticons demand that Sparkplug create a method to convert gas into [[Transformer fuel|fuel compatible with their forms]]. A [[Korean War]] vet, Sparkplug equates his capture to his time spent as a POW in [[North Korea|Korea]] and refuses, until he's forcefully persuaded.

Back at the Witwicky garage, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster]] and his friends are wondering what to do next. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] orders everyone back to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] for fuel and repairs, inviting Buster along the ride. When they arrive, he marvels at the size of the [[Autobot]]s' headquarters.

[[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and Starscream are out stealing components for Sparkplug's fuel conversion process, and their crime spree attracts attention from the press and world governments. As camera crews and the military surround the Decepticon fortress in [[Oregon]], photojournalist Peter Parker decides to switch to his alter ego [[Spider-Man]] in order to get some better shots of the action. That action breaks out when the Decepticons drive the [[United States Army]] away from their base. It quickly becomes clear that the humans are outmatched and General [[McBregg]] orders a retreat.

Mid-carnage, Spider-Man runs into [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], and after a short tussle Gears proves that he's a good guy when he saves a crowd of [[human]]s from getting squashed flat by a tank. The Autobots team up with Spider-Man to break through the line of reporters and soldiers, and an all-out battle breaks out between the Decepticons and the Autobots.

Meanwhile, Gears and Spider-Man are making their way into the fortress. After a short scrap with [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], Gears and Spider-Man break in and steal Sparkplug from under Megatron's nose. The Decepticon leader shoots out the floor beneath them, and while Spider-Man saves Sparkplug, Gears' weight breaks the web Spider-Man tried to save him with and he plummets to the earth below.

On their return to the Ark, Buster and Sparkplug are reunited and the Autobots say goodbye to Spider-Man. Ratchet brings Gears back to a functional level and he informs the Autobots that the Decepticons got what they wanted out of Sparkplug. Dad, say it ain't so!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] (12)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (13)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (14)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] (16)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (17)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]] (18)
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] (19)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (22)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (23)
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (24)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (25)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (26)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (34)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (35)
|c2=
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Skywarp]] (1)
*[[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] (2)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (3)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]] (5)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] (6)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (7)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (8)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (9)
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] (10)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (11)
|c3=
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (4)
*[[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] (15)
*[[Jesse (G1)|Jesse]] (20)
*[["O"]] (21)
*[[Ronald Reagan|President of the United States]] (27, voice)
*[[Dum Dum]] (28)
*[[Nicholas Fury|Nicholas]] (29)
*[[Joe Robertson]] (30)
*[[Spider-Man|Peter Parker]] (31)
*[[McBregg]] (32, voice)
*[[Blue Leader]] (33)
}}

==Quotes==

==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
*Many characters (Ratchet and Bumblebee being among the more prominent examples) are suddenly drawn to match their animation models after two issues of being drawn with toy-based designs.
*Page 2: Rumble's name is not called out by the narrator when listing who is transforming in the panel.
*Page 5: Ironhide is colored like... uh... uh... well, he's got blue arms, blue and gray legs, and a white windshield frame. Windcharger is colored white and blue instead of red and gray. ([[Tailgate (G1)|Coincidence!]]) The silhouettes behind Optimus don't match anyone from the Autobot ranks.
*Page 8: Ratchet is colored with a red crest, shoulders, and legs. They should all be white. For the rest of Ratchet's appearances in this issue, he's colored with a blue windshield frame and red shoulders; it happens consistently enough to suggest that it was an earlier color scheme rather than a flat-out error.
*Page 9: [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] is shown hanging out with the Decepticons. Next issue will reveal that he's still buried in rock at this point.
[[File:PrisonerofWar skywarp trueface.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
[[File:Ratchetgetstofixgears.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Page 11: Skywarp's [[alternate mode|jet mode]] is colored as if his cockpit canopy extended all the way back to his tail fins. When he lands on the Air Force jet, his wings are missing.
*Page 15: As the Autobots transform, Sunstreaker is colored red instead of yellow. In the next panel, Cliffjumper's head is colored yellow instead of red.
*Page 16: A blue-colored Gears is drawn behind Brawn, even though Gears is off somewhere else with Spider-Man. It should probably be Frenzy, who shows up in the next panel.
*Page 17: Gears' legs can't seem to decide what color they are.
*Page 18: Panel 1: Megatron is drawn instead of Soundwave. Amusingly, the thought bubbles ''almost'' work for Megatron.
*Page 19: Soundwave is drawn with a strange, enormous cannon attached to his arm, rather than his usual weapon.
*Page 21: Brawn and Cliffjumper are both white and blue instead of their normal color schemes. Sunstreaker is blue, white and red, and has the wrong head, AND is missing most of his left arm.
*Page 22:
**Panel 3: Optimus is drawn with strange huge conjoined goggles instead of his usual separate eyes.
**Panel 4: Cliffjumper is still white and blue, while Hound is colored red and white instead of green. Ratchet's repair bay is colored red instead of white.
**Panel 5: Optimus's head is ''tiny''!

===Continuity errors===
[[File:Spider-man.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"Can all humans stick to walls?" asked the [[flight|flying]] Autobot.]]
*The original four-part miniseries was written to be explicitly set in the mainstream Marvel Universe. This conceit would be quietly dropped as the series expanded its length and scope, due to the impossibility of maintaining a coherent continuity with the vast and complicated Marvel universe, but in this issue it's probably most visible:
**The issue features a guest appearance by Spider-Man in his [[Venom (Crossovers)|black symbiote costume]], complete with a footnote that dates the story as occurring before ''Spider-Man'' #258 in which he disposed of the suit.
**Nick Fury and Dum Dum also put in a one-panel appearance.
**A much shorter guest appearance by [[U.S. 1]] can be seen in the background as the Autobots drive down the highway.
**The [[letters page]] for issue [[Deadly Obsession|#64]] declared ''[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|The Transformers]]'' and Marvel Universes to be separate. It also politely asked the readers to forget about this issue
**When [[IDW Publishing]] released the original ''Transformers'' comics onto the Digital Comics Service years later, this comic was missing from the listings. Hhhhmm, wonder why that could be? Maybe Peter Parker can tell us?
*In the "Story so far" section of the UK issue #6 printing, Sparkplug's name is misspelled as "Sparks".

===Continuity notes===
*Amongst the military vehicles seen in this issue, the MOBAT and the [[Wolverine (G.I. Joe)|Wolverine]] from the ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' series appear repeatedly.
*The [[narrator]] points out that when Megatron, Soundwave, and his cassettes transform, they [[size changing|enlarge by hundreds of times]], but he doesn't elaborate.
*Ratchet's [[Onebox component|repair sled]] speaks! Ratchet himself speaks immediately afterwards, making it seem less likely that this was merely a misattributed speech balloon.

===Real world references===
*Most of the action continues to be set in rural [[Oregon]]. Locations raided by the Decepticons include the [[University of Oregon]] campus, while government reactions are shown at the White House and in Moscow, and Sparkplug flashes back to his time in the Korean War.
* Sparkplug was in the Marines.
*"O" calls the Autobots "rejects from a [[George Lucas]] [[Star Wars (film)|film]]".
*"O" compares the Autobot's [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to Noah's ark.
*A police officer mentions the [[Indy 500]].
*Moscow speculates the Americans are testing their [[Star Wars (defense system)|Star Wars]] arsenal.
*Spider-Man references Joan Rivers' talk show (which was semi-popular at the time) by saying "Can we talk?".
*Spider-Man mentions the Super Bowl, takes a dig at Rumble and Frenzy as "Tweedledee and Tweedledum", and quip-names Megatron "Bazooka Joe".

===UK printing===
'''Issue #5:'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''Machine Man'' - "Where Walks the Gods" Part 2 and ''Matt and the Cat''
*'''[[Fact File]]:''' [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]
*The first appearance of ''Matt and the Cat'', which would run until [[Showdown!|#73]]
'''Issue #6:'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''Machine Man'' - "Xanadu" Part 1 and ''Matt and the Cat''
*'''Fact File:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]

===Other trivia===
[[File:Prisonerofwar clusterbombs.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Well what do you expect ''me'' to do about it?]]
*Advertised as part 3 in a [[The Transformers Four-Issue Limited Series|four-issue limited series]].
*Although he doesn't appear in the cover art proper despite his prominent role in the story, Gears does get the cover corner box, the only time in the US series that a character not designated as Autobot or Decepticon leader at the time of the comic gets in the cover box.
*Rumble calls Sparkplug a [[scraplet]], though it's presumably meant as a generic insult rather than the robotic disease.
*In 2007's "[[Man and Machine, Part Four]]", Spider-Man web-swings around Megatron in a visual homage to the cover of this issue.
*The Decepticons are dropping cluster bombs on human soldiers, which are going off ''right next'' to soldiers. We can safely assume a whole bunch of them are now dead.
*Spider-Man completely ignores the Decepticon rampage and starts a fight with Gears instead, who is not near any humans at the time. Jameson's right, he's a menace!

===Covers (12)===
<gallery>
File:MarvelUS-03.jpg|'''US issue #3''' - A moralistic tale for the ages.
File:MarvelUK-005.jpg|'''UK issue #5''' - I'm glad my pants are already brown!
File:MarvelUK-006.jpg|'''UK issue #6''' - The UK needs more RED.
File:Tfcolcom02.jpg|'''''Collected Comics'' (UK) #2'''
</gallery>
*'''US issue #3 cover:''' Spider-Man webbing Megatron, by [[Michael Golden]].
*'''UK issue #5 cover:''' Thundercracker and Sparkplug, by [[John Ridgway]].
*'''UK issue #6 cover:''' reuse of US issue #3's cover.
*'''''Collected Comics'' (UK) #2 cover:''' reuse of US [[The Last Stand|issue #4]]'s cover.
<gallery>
File:TFUSCollectedComics1StoryBegins.jpg|'''''Collected Comics'' (US) #1'''
File:Dtf2.JPG|'''''Die Transformer'' #2'''
File:Dtf3.JPG|'''''Die Transformer'' #3'''
File:Transformers Digest 02-cover.jpg|'''''The Transformers Comics Magazine'' #2'''
</gallery>
*'''''Collected Comics'' (US) #1: cover:''' Prime, Ravage and Laserbeak battle, by (unknown).
*'''''Die Transformer'' #2 cover:''' reuse of US issue #3's cover.
*'''''Die Transformer'' #3 cover:''' reuse of US issue #4's cover.
*'''''The Transformers Comics Magazine'' #2 cover:''' reuse of US issue #3's cover.
<gallery>
File:Complete works 2 cover.jpg|'''''The Complete Works'' Part 2'''
File:Titan-BeginningsSC.jpg|'''''Beginnings'' TPB'''
File:Titan-BeginningsHC.jpg|'''''Beginnings'' hardback'''
File:TFClassicsVol1.JPG|'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol 1'''
</gallery>
*'''''The Complete Works'' Part 2 cover:''' Megatron shoots up a coal mine, by [[Robin Smith]]. Reuse of UK issue [[I, Robot-Master!|#56]]'s cover.
*'''''Beginnings'' TPB cover:''' the Ark, Prime, Ravage and half of Cybertron, by [[Andrew Wildman]].
*'''''Beginnings'' hardback cover:''' [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] stands over [[Blackrock Enterprises]]'s [[oil-drilling platform]], by [[Ron Garney]] and [[Chris Blythe]].
*'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 1 cover:''' Optimus Prime, by [[Guido Guidi]].

===Advertisements===
*Monogram plastic model kits (inside front cover)
*Fig Newtons and Apple Newtons (pg 5)
*Bonkers fruit candy (pg 7)
*Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars action figures and accessories (pg 10)
*Block of various Sketchy Things (pg 12)
*Block of various Sketchy Things (pg 21)
*NFL SuperPro Club (pg 23)
*Win a job at Marvel Comics (pg 26)
*Bullpen Bulletins (pg 28)
*Marvel Comic subscriptions (pg 32)
*Decathlon by Activision video game (rear inside cover)
*Montezuma's Revenge by Parker Brothers video game (rear cover)

===Advertisements (Second Printing)===
*Monogram [[GoBots]] motorized model kits (inside front cover)
*Fig Newtons and Apple Newtons (pg 5)
*Star Comics (pg 7)
*Mile High Comics (pg 10)
*Mile High Comics (pg 12)
*Power Pack and The Amazing [[Spider-Man]] with tips on ways to prevent sexual abuse (pg 21)
*Calender of upcoming events & Marvel Mart (pg 23)
*Block of various Sketchy Things (pg 26)
*Bullpen Bulletins (pg 28)
*Comic subscriptions (pg 32)
*Indiana Jones RPG by TSR (rear inside cover)
*Risk (rear cover)

===Reprints===
*[[1985]] — ''[[Transformers Collected Comics|Transformers Special]]''
*1985 — [[The Transformers: Collected Comics 1 - The Story Begins...|''The Transformers: Collected Comics'' (US) #1 - The Story Begins...]]
*[[1986]] — [[Die Transformer issue 2|''Die Transformer'' #2]]
*1986 — [[Die Transformer issue 3|''Die Transformer'' #3]]
*[[1987]] — [[The Transformers Comics Magazine issue 2|''The Transformers Comics Magazine'' #2]]
*1987 — [[The Transformers: The Complete Works Part 2|''The Transformers: The Complete Works'' Part 2]]
*[[2003]] — ''[[Transformers: Beginnings (G1)|Transformers: Beginnings]]''
*[[2011]] — [[The Transformers Classics, Vol. 1|''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 1]]

[[Category:Marvel US issues]]
[[Category:Marvel UK issues]]

Main Page/schedule

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* '''[[May 14|May 14]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Decepticon Island (Part 2)]]" premieres on [[Cartoon Network]] in the US. The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Back to Virtual Reality]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[May 21|May 21]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Vanishing Returns]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[May 25|May 25]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers vol.2]]'' [[All Hail Optimus Part 4: It's Beginning To And Back Again|#53]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[The Dying of the Light Part 4|#53]] are released by IDW Publishing.
* '''[[May 28|May 28]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]]. [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Skids (G1)#Legends|LG-20 Skids]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' TAV 44 [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys|Bumblebee]] Supreme Armor Set, TAV 45 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] Supreme Armor Set, [[Overload (RID)|TAV 46 Overload]], [[Crazybolt (RID)|TAV 47 Crazybolt]], TAV 48 [[EZ Collection]] Team Bumblebee vs. [[Thunderhoof]] Set and TAV 49 [[EZ Collection]] Autobots vs. [[Clampdown (RID)|Clampdown]] Set.
* '''[[Template:May|May ??]]''' — Last day to play ''[[Transformers: Battle Tactics]]''.

* '''[[June 4|Jun 04]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Enemy of My Enemy]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 11|Jun 11]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Mayor May Not]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 18|Jun 18]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[All Spark Day]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 25|Jun 25]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|TAV 50 Hyper Surge Optimus Prime]].

* '''[[Template: July|Jul ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Hardhead (G1)#Legends|LG-21 Hardhead]], [[Skullcruncher (G1)#Legends|LG-22 Skull]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-23 Galvatron]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys|TAV 51 Hyper Surge Bumblebee]] and [[Strongarm (RID)|TAV 52 Strongarm with Sawtooth and Armor]].

* '''[[Template: August|Aug ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Delta Magnus#Masterpiece|MP-31 Delta Magnus]], ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Computron (G1)|Computicon]], ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-24 Shockwave]] & [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]], [[Blurr (G1)#Legends|LG-25 Blurr]] and [[Scourge (G1)#Legends|LG-26 Scourge]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Sideswipe (WFC)|TAV 53 Hyper Surge Sideswipe]] and [[Scorponok (WFC)|TAV 54 Scorponok]].

* '''[[September 24|Sep 24]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-14+ Alert Anime Colors Edition]].
* '''[[Template: September|Sep ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Blaster (G1)#Legends|LG-27 Broadcast]], [[Rewind (G1)#Legends|LG-28 Rewind]] & [[Nightbeat (G1)#Legends|Nightbeat]], [[Wheelie (G1)#Legends|LG-29 Wheelie]] & [[Shūta Gō|Goshooter]], [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Legends|LG-30 Weirdwolf]] and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Legends|LG-31 Fortress Maximus]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Windblade (RID)|TAV 55 Windblade]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|TAV 56 New Prime]].

* '''[[Template: October|Oct ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Primal/toys#Masterpiece|MP-32 Convoy (Beast Wars)]].
===2017===
* '''[[June 23|Jun 23]]''' — [[Transformers 5]] is currently scheduled to release.
* '''[[December 31|Dec 31]]''' — Last day the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|''Robots in Disguise'' mobile game]] is scheduled to be available for download.

===2018===
* '''[[June 8|Jun 8]]''' — [[Transformers 6]], otherwise known as the [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] movie, is currently scheduled to release.

===2019===
* '''[[June 28|Jun 28]]''' — [[Transformers 7]] is currently scheduled to release.

<noinclude>[[Category:Main Page templates]]</noinclude>

Prowl 2

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Stealthyboy:

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Prowl}}
:''Prowl 2 is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:RID-toy Prowl2.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|I am no one. And everyone.]]
'''Prowl 2''' was born out of the [[Binaltech Project]] as a backup attempt to save [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] from death, and eventually given life to prepare the [[Dimensional Patrol]] for life in the distant past.

==Fiction==
===Ask Vector Prime===
Prowl 2’s origin is traced back to the temporal nexus that was the Binaltech Project. Circa [[2010]], the Prowl and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] of the [[BT World]] traveled to the OG World to collect some medical supplies, but became stranded there when the [[Quintesson]]s placed a [[quadrant lock]] on their home dimension. Having been somewhat wary after the death of their OG World doppelgängers, Wheeljack had brought along Prowl's Beta BT unit, an unused electric blue-colored BT backup, which, as with the primary unit, was programmed with Prowl's memory engrams and personality. When the duo transferred their sparks to OG World bodies, both of Prowl's BT units went into storage.

Hundreds of centuries later, the Beta BT unit was rediscovered in the era of the [[Convoy Council]] when [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] was preparing to pursue the [[Predacon (RID)|Destrongers]] to the year [[2000]]. Since the memories contained within the Beta BT unit were of crucial importance to the Autobots, the body was rebuilt using [[Spy Changer]] technology and infused with life by [[Vector Sigma]]; thus was Prowl 2 born. He taught the [[Dimensional Patrol]] much about life on late 20th century [[Earth]], and although he volunteered to join Fire Convoy's team, [[Heinrad (BWN)|Heinrad]] considered the danger of temporal paradoxes too acute. Prowl 2 remained in the future, apprehensively awaiting word from his comrades about their mission to Earth. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 10/9/2015}}

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise (2001)===
*'''Side Swipe & Prowl 2''' (Basic 2-pack, 2001)

: Originally an unreleased ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] mold, Prowl transforms into a police car. He has through-axle construction to allow for super-fast rolling in car mode. Like his fellow "new"-mold teammates, his rifle stores under his car mode. He was available in a two-pack with [[Side Swipe (RID)#Toys|Side Swipe]].

: This mold was used to make the [[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|2003 ''Universe'']] version of Generation 1 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|Prowl]] as well as the 2003 ''Universe'' version of ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Prowl (RID)#WMSC|Prowl]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/Prowl2/prowl2.htm More information on Prowl 2 at TFU.info]''
{{-}}
[[File:RIDTinyTinsProwl2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Metal coffin included!]]
*'''Prowl 2''' (Tiny Tins, 2001)

: Prowl 2 was one of several ''Robots in Disguise'' toys to be sold as an individual in a [[Tiny Tins]] release, with a pocket-sized carrying case. The actual toy is unchanged from the two-pack version.

::*''[http://www.transformers-universe.com/include.php?path=content/ToyDB_Info.php&Toy_ID=4074 More information on Prowl 2 (Tiny Tins) at Transformers-Universe.com]''
{{--}}

===Binaltech===
[[File:Binaltech Blue Prowl toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Prowl Vivid Blue Pearl Edition''' (Binaltech, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-15 '''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/gun, traffic direction baton
{{note|Prowl 2 was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] from ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Binaltech]]'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]}}

: Prowl got two different ''Binaltech'' decos released in equal numbers. The second version, known as "Vivid Blue Pearl", is a civilian version with no police lights, a mostly blue interior, a Honda logo (instead of the cherry blossom emblem) on the grill, and a solid blue car-shell. His robot mode parts remained mostly the same color, however.

:This mold (the Japanese blue Prowl variant, combined with parts from American police Prowl) was used to make ''Alternators'' [[Camshaft (G1)#Alternators|Camshaft]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/BTProwl/prowl.htm More information on ''Binaltech'' Prowl Vivid Blue Pearl Edition at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
[[File:G2Go-Bot911PoliceCar.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Prowl 2 was the first official release of a mold originally intended to be released as part of the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] sub-line. Presently, the original identity of the mold is unknown.
*For years, Prowl 2 only existed as a toy in the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline with no [[bio]] or story appearances to explain who he was, an enigma for the fandom. Among the contradictory facts and evidence:
**[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Other]] [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|toys]] [[X-Brawn|received]] [[Scourge (RID)|Spychanger]] [[Side Burn (RID)|bodies]] without the anomalous "2" suffix.
**Further complicating things, the "Super" redecoes of the Deluxe RID Car Brothers were listed in store computers with the numeral "2" following their names for a time. The "Prowl 2" Spy Changer's deco is not dissimilar to the redeco of Deluxe Prowl, and one interpretation was that it was intended as a Spy Changer version of that toy.
**This might have remained simply an odd footnote in Transformers lore, but then the [[Transformers: Alternators|''Binaltech'' fiction]] used the name "Prowl 2" for its own incarnation of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (who would, in a later [[retcon]], be rolled into a ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' character as "[[Prowl II]]").
**Some fans passed the ''Binaltech'' reference off as merely a nod, since ''Binaltech'' takes place in a branch of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] timeline. However, the Generation 1 cartoon and ''Car Robots'' (the original Japanese version of ''Robots in Disguise'') are [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|actually in the same universe]] according to [[Continuity#Unified Japanese continuities|Japanese continuity]]. On the other hand, Prowl 2 wasn't in ''Car Robots''; he was a U.S. addition. On the other ''other'' hand, ''Binaltech''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s writer, [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], is famously knowledgeable of non-Japanese Transformers, and he even worked [[Mirage (RID)|another anomalous ''Robots in Disguise'' suffix]] into [[Genetronic Translink System|''Binaltech'' terminology]]. Moreover, even if the series are viewed as separate, ''Robots in Disguise'' is no stranger to [[Axer (G1)|dimension hoppers]].
**The upshot of it all was that, for years, no one could say who Prowl 2 "really" was with certainty.
***That is, of course, until the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime]] rectified things in a post written with input by Ichikawa in [[2015]].
****Whew!

[[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]
[[Category:Repurposed toys]]
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) Autobots]]
[[Category:Spy Changers]]

Main Page/schedule

2016-05-13T16:40:14Z

Stealthyboy:

* '''[[May 14|May 14]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Decepticon Island (Part 2)]]" premieres on [[Cartoon Network]] in the US. The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Back to Virtual Reality]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[May 21|May 21]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Vanishing Returns]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[May 25|May 25]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[The Dying of the Light Part 4|#53]] is released by IDW Publishing.
* '''[[May 28|May 28]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Ghost in the Machine (RB)|Ghost in the Machine]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]]. [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Skids (G1)#Legends|LG-20 Skids]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' TAV 44 [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys|Bumblebee]] Supreme Armor Set, TAV 45 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] Supreme Armor Set, [[Overload (RID)|TAV 46 Overload]], [[Crazybolt (RID)|TAV 47 Crazybolt]], TAV 48 [[EZ Collection]] Team Bumblebee vs. [[Thunderhoof]] Set and TAV 49 [[EZ Collection]] Autobots vs. [[Clampdown (RID)|Clampdown]] Set.
* '''[[Template:May|May ??]]''' — Last day to play ''[[Transformers: Battle Tactics]]''.

* '''[[June 4|Jun 04]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Enemy of My Enemy]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 11|Jun 11]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Mayor May Not]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 18|Jun 18]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[All Spark Day]]" premieres on [[Discovery Family]].
* '''[[June 25|Jun 25]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|TAV 50 Hyper Surge Optimus Prime]].

* '''[[Template: July|Jul ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Hardhead (G1)#Legends|LG-21 Hardhead]], [[Skullcruncher (G1)#Legends|LG-22 Skull]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-23 Galvatron]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys|TAV 51 Hyper Surge Bumblebee]] and [[Strongarm (RID)|TAV 52 Strongarm with Sawtooth and Armor]].

* '''[[Template: August|Aug ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Delta Magnus#Masterpiece|MP-31 Delta Magnus]], ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Computron (G1)|Computicon]], ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legends|LG-24 Shockwave]] & [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]], [[Blurr (G1)#Legends|LG-25 Blurr]] and [[Scourge (G1)#Legends|LG-26 Scourge]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Sideswipe (WFC)|TAV 53 Hyper Surge Sideswipe]] and [[Scorponok (WFC)|TAV 54 Scorponok]].

* '''[[September 24|Sep 24]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-14+ Alert Anime Colors Edition]].
* '''[[Template: September|Sep ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Blaster (G1)#Legends|LG-27 Broadcast]], [[Rewind (G1)#Legends|LG-28 Rewind]] & [[Nightbeat (G1)#Legends|Nightbeat]], [[Wheelie (G1)#Legends|LG-29 Wheelie]] & [[Shūta Gō|Goshooter]], [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Legends|LG-30 Weirdwolf]] and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Legends|LG-31 Fortress Maximus]] and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Japanese toy line|Adventure]]'' [[Windblade (RID)|TAV 55 Windblade]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys|TAV 56 New Prime]].

* '''[[Template: October|Oct ??]]''' — [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Primal/toys#Masterpiece|MP-32 Convoy (Beast Wars)]].
===2017===
* '''[[June 23|Jun 23]]''' — [[Transformers 5]] is currently scheduled to release.
* '''[[December 31|Dec 31]]''' — Last day the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|''Robots in Disguise'' mobile game]] is scheduled to be available for download.

===2018===
* '''[[June 8|Jun 8]]''' — [[Transformers 6]], otherwise known as the [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] movie, is currently scheduled to release.

===2019===
* '''[[June 28|Jun 28]]''' — [[Transformers 7]] is currently scheduled to release.

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Kaon (G1)

2016-05-03T15:29:50Z

Stealthyboy: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Kaon}}
:''Kaon is a Decepticon from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:MTMTE8 Kaon transforms.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Not... THE COMFY CHAIR!!!]]
'''Kaon''' is the communications officer of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and the one responsible for maintaining its [[The List|hit list]]. A veritable dynamo, his frame arcs with electricity from the generator in his chest, arcing out from his hands and the twin [[Nikola Tesla|Tesla]] coils mounted on his shoulders. In another life he might have bent this gift to the service of his fellow bots, but when he assumes [[alternate mode]] its true purpose is made known. Thousands of watts of electricity are discharged directly into the [[cranial chamber]]s of those who would defy [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. Unlike in [[human]]s, this procedure is not ''always'' fatal.

Despite his chilly demeanor (and his creepy, cold, dead, empty, lifeless, soulless, bottomless, horrifying black eyes), he can become almost giddy in the execution of his duties, whether it's excitedly tracking down the D.J.D.'s next target or gleefully ripping an Autobot to shreds.

Kaon owns a partially domesticated [[turbofox]] [[Sparkeater (creature)|sparkeater]] known only as "[[the Pet]]."

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{ongoing}}
Kaon was [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|constructed cold]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

When the Decepticon [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] was caught for getting bribed to destroy a fleet of [[Warworld|War Worlds]], Kaon electrocuted him and left him to get talked to death by [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]. Kaon and the other members were then ordered by Tarn to move on to their next target, [[Fulcrum]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}

[[File:Mtmte08-p16-kaon-electricity.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.6|ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE GIGAWATTS]]
On arrival at [[Clemency]], they met with resistance from Fulcrum's new friends, the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]], which automatically got them all put on The List. After pinning [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] down so that [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] could impale his face, Kaon went on to introduce [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] to the Pet and use his electric powers to cripple [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]]'s [[Cybernought]] long enough for Tarn to destroy it. Following the apparent death of Fulcrum, he detected the [[energy signature]] of [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and informed Tarn, who immediately ordered the D.J.D. to leave in search of this new target. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} Aboard the ''[[Peaceful Tyranny]]'', Tarn showed concern as Kaon spontaneously began [[universal killswitch|writhing in agony]] right in front of him. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Kaon was comforted by the Pet when the pain ceased. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}

Arriving at Overlord's location, the ''[[Lost Light]]'' (in reality, one of two created by a malfunction of the ship's quantum engines), near the planet [[Ofsted XVII]], the D.J.D. set about murdering the ship's crew of Autobots. Kaon personally killed [[Dipstick]] by shocking him to death before reaching the still-restrained Overlord. Tarn chopped his head off with a chainsaw while Kaon smirked, and the D.J.D. left the ship. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}} {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

When the D.J.D. returned to the murder site 17 months later to steal the Lost Light's quantum engines, they found that the [[Galactic Council]] and the [[Black Block Consortia]] were fighting over the same prize over Ofsted. The two sides joined forces to attack the D.J.D. Kaon and Vos pursued a Council squad to the planet's surface when reinforcements arrived, forcing the D.J.D to retreat with out them. As a result, Kaon and Vos were left near-dead in a wrecked campus. The kindness of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] saw Vos brought back from the brink... at which point he attacked the Autobot, forcing him to raise a forcefield. Kaon was inside the field in altmode: the forcefield charged him up and he gleefully tore Trailcutter to pieces. When the Autobots protested that Megatron had declared the war over, Kaon took Trailcutter's post-war copy of ''[[Towards Peace]]'' to check ''but smashed Trailcutter's brain first anyway''. Vos and himself were then teleported back onto the ''Peaceful Tyranny'' by Helex. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}}

In the D.J.D. headquarters on Clemency, Kaon explained the unique properties of [[Nuke]] to [[Nickel]]. He later accompanied Tarn to a rendezvous with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], tapping into and hijacking the inter-Decepticon radio of the renegade's stolen [[Warworld]] for Tarn's use. He became concerned when Tarn and Deathsaurus came to blows, but Vos convinced him not to intervene. {{storylink|The Permanent Revolution}}
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}}}}

===''Kre-O'' comic===
[[File:Kre-O Kaon.jpg|thumb|Ha!]]
Kaon participated in an attack led by [[Megatron (Kre-O)|Megatron]] to conquer [[Metroplex (Kre-O)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|Two Giant Bases! Everybody Getting Along, Come On, Fight!}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Kaon and the rest of the D.J.D. hunted down Blackshadow to the planet Clemency. Finding their target holed up with Decepticon scavengers, the D.J.D. destroyed the lot of them before moving on to their next assignment. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (Legends)|Rules of Disengagement}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
*According to [[Alex Milne]], Kaon was the most difficult member of the Decepticon Justice Division to design.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/notes/transformers/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-vol-2-alex-milne-interview/395646703838863 Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye vol. 2 Alex Milne interview]</ref>
*Kreon Kaon wears a repainted [[Ratchet (Kre-O)|Ratchet]] helmet and some sort of drill setup on his back.
*It is revealed in [[Zero Point]] that the colour of a Cybertronian's optics are directly influenced by their spark type, and the healthier the spark, the brighter the glow. What this means for Kaon's pitch black optics is unknown.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Comic-only Decepticons]]
[[Category:Communications specialists]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kre-O Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kreons]]

Kaon (G1)

2016-05-03T15:28:38Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Kaon}}
:''Kaon is a Decepticon from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:MTMTE8 Kaon transforms.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Not... THE COMFY CHAIR!!!]]
'''Kaon''' is the communications officer of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and the one responsible for maintaining its [[The List|hit list]]. A veritable dynamo, his frame arcs with electricity from the generator in his chest, arcing out from his hands and the twin [[Nikola Tesla|Tesla]] coils mounted on his shoulders. In another life he might have bent this gift to the service of his fellow bots, but when he assumes [[alternate mode]] its true purpose is made known. Thousands of watts of electricity are discharged directly into the [[cranial chamber]]s of those who would defy [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. Unlike in [[human]]s, this procedure is not ''always'' fatal.

Despite his chilly demeanor (and his creepy, cold, dead, empty, lifeless, soulless, bottomless, horrifying black eyes), he can become almost giddy in the execution of his duties, whether it's excitedly tracking down the D.J.D.'s next target or gleefully ripping an Autobot to shreds.

Kaon owns a partially domesticated [[turbofox]] [[Sparkeater (creature)|sparkeater]] known only as "[[the Pet]]."

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{ongoing}}
Kaon was [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|constructed cold]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

When the Decepticon [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] was caught for getting bribed to destroy a fleet of [[Warworld|War Worlds]], Kaon electrocuted him and left him to get talked to death by [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]. Kaon and the other members were then ordered by Tarn to move on to their next target, [[Fulcrum]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}

[[File:Mtmte08-p16-kaon-electricity.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.6|ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE GIGAWATTS]]
On arrival at [[Clemency]], they met with resistance from Fulcrum's new friends, the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]], which automatically got them all put on The List. After pinning [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] down so that [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] could impale his face, Kaon went on to introduce [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] to the Pet and use his electric powers to cripple [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]]'s [[Cybernought]] long enough for Tarn to destroy it. Following the apparent death of Fulcrum, he detected the [[energy signature]] of [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and informed Tarn, who immediately ordered the D.J.D. to leave in search of this new target. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} Aboard the ''[[Peaceful Tyranny]]'', Tarn showed concern as Kaon spontaneously began [[universal killswitch|writhing in agony]] right in front of him. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Kaon was comforted by the Pet when the pain ceased. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}

Arriving at Overlord's location, the ''[[Lost Light]]'' (in reality, one of two created by a malfunction of the ship's quantum engines), near the planet [[Ofsted XVII]], the D.J.D. set about murdering the ship's crew of Autobots. Kaon personally killed [[Dipstick]] by shocking him to death before reaching the still-restrained Overlord. Tarn chopped his head off with a chainsaw while Kaon smirked, and the D.J.D. left the ship. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}} {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

When the D.J.D. returned to the murder site 17 months later to steal the Lost Light's quantum engines, they found that the [[Galactic Council]] and the [[Black Block Consortia]] were fighting over the same prize over Ofsted. The two sides joined forces to attack the D.J.D. Kaon and Vos pursued a Council squad to the planet's surface when reinforcements arrived, forcing the D.J.D to retreat with out them. As a result, Kaon and Vos were left near-dead in a wrecked campus. The kindness of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] saw Vos brought back from the brink... at which point he attacked the Autobot, forcing him to raise a forcefield. Kaon was inside the field in altmode: the forcefield charged him up and he gleefully tore Trailcutter to pieces. When the Autobots protested that Megatron had declared the war over, Kaon took Trailcutter's post-war copy of ''[[Towards Peace]]'' to check ''but smashed Trailcutter's brain first anyway''. Vos and himself were then teleported back onto the ''Peaceful Tyranny'' by Helex. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}}

In the D.J.D. headquarters on Clemency, Kaon explained the unique properties of [[Nuke]] to [[Nickel]]. He later accompanied Tarn to a rendezvous with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], tapping into and hijacking the inter-Decepticon radio of the renegade's stolen [[Warworld]] for Tarn's use. He became concerned when Tarn and Deathsaurus came to blows, but Vos convinced him not to intervene. {{storylink|The Permanent Revolution}}
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}}}}

===''Kre-O'' comic===
[[File:Kre-O Kaon.jpg|thumb|Ha!]]
Kaon participated in an attack led by [[Megatron (Kre-O)|Megatron]] to conquer [[Metroplex (Kre-O)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|Two Giant Bases! Everybody Getting Along, Come On, Fight!}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Kaon and the rest of the D.J.D. hunted down Blackshadow to the planet Clemency. Finding their target holed up with Decepticon scavengers, the D.J.D. destroyed the lot of them before moving on to their next assignment. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (Legends)|Rules of Disengagement}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
*According to [[Alex Milne]], Kaon was the most difficult member of the Decepticon Justice Division to design.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/notes/transformers/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-vol-2-alex-milne-interview/395646703838863 Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye vol. 2 Alex Milne interview]</ref>
*Kreon Kaon wears a repainted [[Ratchet (Kre-O)|Ratchet]] helmet and some sort of drill setup on his back.
*It is revealed in [[Zero Point]] that the colour of a Cybertronian's optics are directly influenced by their spark type. What this means for Kaon's pitch black optics is unknown.
==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Comic-only Decepticons]]
[[Category:Communications specialists]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kre-O Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kreons]]

Talk:The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears

2016-04-28T22:58:32Z

Stealthyboy:

== Dreamwave ==

It looks like on the memorial, right before Roller, it looks like it says Dreamwave. I this a reference to the Dreamwave comics?[[User:Crazyworks|Crazyworks]] ([[User talk:Crazyworks|talk]]) 13:32, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

==Possible error==
Tarn repeats "A suggestion: perhaps we should-" in consecutive balloons, which seems weird to me but he's a pretty weird guy, so I'm finding it hard to judge. Thoughts? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 17:37, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

To me, it looked more like he was just trying to restate the same thing after being cut off, rather than an error. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 18:58, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

Turbo Cycle (disambiguation)

2016-04-28T14:11:04Z

Stealthyboy:

There have been multiple '''Turbo Cycles''':
{{disamb|y=1990|[[Turbo Cycle (G1)|Turbo Cycle]], [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]]'s [[Action Master]] vehicle.}}
{{disamb|y=1990|[[Off-Road Cycle]], a.k.a. "Turbo Cycle", [[Axer (G1)|Axer]]'s Action Master vehicle.}}
{{disamb|y=2012|[[Turbo Cycle (RB)|Turbo Cycle]], [[Ezra Greene|Doc Greene]]'s invention from the [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|''Rescue Bots'' cartoon]].}}

Not to be confused with:
*[[Power Cycle]], the G1 big wheel tricycle.
{{disambig}}

Waspinator (BW)

2016-04-28T13:59:11Z

Stealthyboy:

{{factions|predacon|decepticon|hofsilver}}
{{disambig3|Waspinator}}
:''Waspinator is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Waspinatorbw.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Waspinator: chew-toy of fate.]]
'''Waspinator''' is the universe's whipping boy. If something goes wrong, it happens to him. If something blows up, he's usually at the epicenter of the explosion. He has been blasted, burned, shot down, torn up, crushed, slashed, smashed, bashed, and otherwise reduced to his component parts times beyond counting. Disturbingly, [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] has taken to collecting his severed components.

Waspinator's not the brightest 'bot in the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]]. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] has classified the harebrained Predacon as expendable, much to Waspinator's dismay; he doesn't get much more respect from anyone else, either. His speech quirks don't help: he tends to refer to himself in the third person and to most other people by nicknames like [[Cheetor (BW)|"cat-bot"]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|"two-head."]] He's also a bit too fond of the letter "Z". (Those prone to witticisms might say he has a "liszzzzp.")

Waspinator may be dumb, but he's not stupid. He has caught on to his lot in life and tries to avoid his fate as often as possible... but fate always finds him. Thankfully, he's almost supernaturally durable and has survived the most devastating and humiliating of defeats.

Sometimes he is previously known as '''Wasp''', and other times he becomes known as '''Thrustinator''' or '''Waspscream'''.

{{quote|[[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] blow up, Waszzpinator must salvage. Waszzpinator blow up, ''nobody'' salvage! Why universe hate Waszzpinator?|Waspinator laments his lot in life|"[[Deep Metal]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Toy bios===
[[File:Optimusprimalvsmegatronwaspinator.jpg|left|thumb|"This new aerobics regimen is great! Work, you abs!"]]

The Waspinator was a fearsome warrior of monstrous appearance, striking fear with the eerie sound of his ominous buzzing. He striked down helpless victims using his secret wing missiles, poisoning them with his cyber-sting. {{storylink|#Toys|Waspinator bio}} He also liked to gang up on his victims with his partner, [[Buzz Saw (BW)|Buzz Saw]]. {{storylink|Buzz Saw (BW)#Toys|Buzz Saw bio}}

When the Maximals located the Predacons' genetics lab, Waspinator was present along with Megatron and Tarantulas to fend them off. Waspinator exchanged blasts with Cheetor before Megatron initiated the lab's self-destruct mechanism, at which point the Predacons retreated. {{storylink|Optimus Primal vs Megatron!}}

When the [[quantum surge]] physically upgraded Waspinator into a [[Transmetal]], his personality remained the same. He, however, found a renewed drive to eliminate the Maximals, accompanied by enhanced speed. {{storylink|#Toys|Transmetal Waspinator Bio}}

The [[Transmetal|Metals]] upgrade did little to stem Waspinator's annoying buzzing, and he still suffered many bouts of violence. {{storylink|#TM1|Metals Waspeeter bio}}
{{-}}

===Cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Kensō Katō]] (Japanese)|[[Ivo Roberto]] (Portuguese), [[Fábio Vilalonga]], (Portuguese, in some episodes), [[Diego Sabre]] (Italian), [[Pierre Laurent]] (French), [[Roberto Molina]] (Latin American Spanish, season 1), [[Carlos Íñigo]] (Latin American Spanish, last episodes of season 1, season 2 and season 3), [[Gabriel Gama]] (Latin American Spanish, last 2 episodes of season 3), [[José Padilla]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Holger Potzern]] (German)}}

[[File:BeastWars1 Waspinator robotmode.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Remember when Waspinator used to be a threat? Because ''he'' doesn't, the poor guy.]]
Waspinator, part of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s rogue band of Predacons, landed on an unknown planet with dangerous levels of unstable [[energon]]. To protect themselves from the energon, the Predacons took organic [[beast mode]]s. In Waspinator's case, he now transformed into a large, green wasp. The first conflict between the stranded Predacons and their Maximal pursuers came when the Maximal [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] stumbled across Waspinator. In a stark contrast to his later career, he actually proved to be a serious threat and had the advantage over the inexperienced Cheetor, pinning the young Maximal down in a canyon. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}}

The Predacons pursued the Maximals and interrupted a fight between [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] and [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]. When a stray shot exposed a cache of energon atop a nearby mountain, the Predacons headed for it. Waspinator was teamed with [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] for the first time, in an attempt to slow the Maximals down. They were chased off by a missile from Primal and rejoined the others for a mountaintop battle, wherein Cheetor attempted to have a rematch with Waspinator. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

Waspinator helped [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Terrorsaur install some perimeter defenses around the Predacon base. {{storylink|The Web}} When Cheetor ended up in the Predacon base through some sort of freak teleportation system, Waspinator and Scorponok tried to kill him, but only succeeded in blowing themselves up with their own missiles. Little did Waspinator know that he would be blown up numerous times in the adventures to come. {{storylink|Equal Measures}}

[[File:ChainOfCommand Waspinator gets shot up.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"...and here we see a wild Waspinator in its natural state."]]
Waspinator was part of an attack on the Maximals at the [[Standing Stones]]. He survived that battle, but when an [[Vok probe|alien probe]] appeared at the circle, he and Megatron attempted to take possession of it, and a pulse of energy zapped them. They turned up, badly damaged, back at the Predacon base. After repairs, Megatron sent Waspinator and Scorponok to guard the circle. The Maximals soon turned up to try and extract Primal from the probe. Waspinator attempted to sneak up on [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], only for the Maximal to see his reflection on the probe and ventilate him with a chaingun. Waspinator fell backwards against a standing stone, activating a sequence which freed Primal from the probe. {{storylink|Chain of Command (BW)|Chain of Command}}

After Terrorsaur managed to slag Megatron and take leadership of the Predacons, Waspinator and Scorponok promptly fixed Megatron. {{storylink|Power Surge (episode)|Power Surge}} When a [[stasis pod]] crashed, Waspinator and Terrorsaur went directly to the ''Axalon'' and ambushed Optimus Primal when he emerged to look for the pod. Though they succeeded, Dinobot dropped a huge rock on Waspinator, and Terrorsaur had to help his fellow. Waspinator was still healthy enough to report to Megatron, who sent the pair to capture the pod. On the way, they managed to slow down the Maximals by destroying an ice bridge, but by the time they reached the pod, [[Tigatron]] had already been activated. The new Maximal fought them off. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}}

[[File:Better Mousetrap Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Wazzzzpinator not want to know "who'zzzz there?"]]
In one of Waspinator's few victories, he managed to retrieve the stasis pod which gave birth to [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. When Terrorsaur again deposed of Megatron, Waspinator seemed happy to follow his fellow Predacon. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}} Perhaps that was why he was subsequently assigned with Blackarachnia and Terrorsaur to deliver a [[sonic emitter]] to a location below the ''Axalon''. Dissatisfied with the task, he went to fly around for a bit and mutter to himself, only to give away their position accidentally. Though he returned to the other two Predacons, they were discovered by Tigatron, who destroyed the sonic emitter. {{storylink|A Better Mousetrap}} After Primal was inadvertently turned into a berserker by Scorponok's [[cyberbee]], Waspinator attempted to track down Optimus in the Predacon base, but found himself pulled through a wall and blasted. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}}

Waspinator acted as bait for the first test of [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]'s [[transformation lock lens]]. The test was a success, but Waspinator was slagged by Tigatron. {{storylink|The Probe}} He was later one of the trio who mounted a mock revolt against Megatron to fool the Maximals. The Predacons concealed themselves in a crevasse (where Waspinator apparently spent his nights cuddling Tarantulas like a soft toy) while the Maximals repaired the ''Axalon''. They were discovered by Dinobot, who dropped a large rock on Waspinator and Terrorsaur. Though the latter survived to battle on, Waspinator apparently didn't. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

[[File:DarkDesigns Waspinator is nuts.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Dancing Queen Bee]]
When [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had his personality program converted to that of a Predacon, he started surreptitiously taking out the various Predacons. He swung a cargo crate into Waspinator, giving him a concussion. As a result, Waspy flew around in a daze, claiming to be the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] as well as the great [[Ben Yee|Wonko the Sane]]. This dementia was apparently reversed when Cheetor later got annoyed at his yammering and shot him down. One of Waspinator's stray shots subsequently hit the [[Transmuter (BW)|Transmuter]], causing it to explode. {{storylink|Dark Designs}}

Terrorsaur and Waspinator were hanging around outside the Predacon base during Megatron's experiment to create a [[Clone One|clone of Dinobot]]. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}} The pair attacked Cheetor when the young Maximal was protecting a stasis pod. Cheetor managed to lure Waspinator into flying over an energon geyser, frying his circuits. {{storylink|The Spark}} Perhaps a sign that they hadn't learned their lesson, Waspinator and Terrorsaur attacked Tigatron, only to be blasted by the defense system of a strange [[Brigadoon|flying island]]. Though injured, they were able to return to base to report the find, just in time before Terrorsaur fainted on top of Waspinator. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}} Following another bout of repairs, the duo headed back for the island, only to run into Primal and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], who were headed in the same direction. Eventually, they did each the island... only for Blackarachnia to trick them into triggering the island's defenses again, resulting in them both being blasted. Waspinator blamed the "pterodactyl idiot" for this. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 2}}

Tigatron was ambushed on his way to another stasis pod by Waspinator, who managed to get a drop on the tiger. Waspinator's victory was short-lived, as [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] promptly shot his wings off, and he crashed to the ground. {{storylink|Spider's Game}} Waspinator and Terrorsaur stole the ''Axalon''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> [[rectifier coil]], forcing the Maximals remain in their beast modes. Once the Maximals had gone feral and wandered off into the jungle, the Predacons mounted a hunting expedition. The Maximals were able to overcome their programming block, and during the subsequent fight, Rhinox swatted Waspinator out of the air with a ''tree,'' as if it were a baseball bat {{storylink|Call of the Wild}}

[[File:Possession Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Give him an orange parka and call him Kenny.]]
After an apparently victorious battle, Waspinator and Scorponok returned to base. However, the Maximals they had attacked were not dead, merely blinded, and Waspinator was soon sent out again, teamed with Terrorsaur, to eliminate them. Unfortunately, even four blind Maximals were more than enough match for them, and both Predacons were sent packing. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}} Things continued to go badly for Waspinator, as during a violent storm, he was possessed by the immortal [[spark]] of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. It took a major [[energon]] explosion to dislodge Starscream's immortal [[spark]] from Waspinator's body. It also had the after-effect of giving Waspinator a headache in his ''whole body''. {{storylink|Possession}}

Waspinator was part of a diversionary attack while Tarantulas tried out his new weapon, an [[energon discharge virus]]. Later on, the Predacons attempted to stop the Maximals getting the antidote and were blasted by Rhinox's enormous fart. {{storylink|The Low Road}} Waspinator teamed up with [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] and Terrorsaur for a fight, only to be roundly trounced by Tigatron. The trio were later able to defeat Dinobot, with Waspinator dealing the final blow, but Optimus Primal turned up and blew both him and Terrorsaur away with one shot. {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}}

[[File:OtherVoices1 robonoogie.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"Wazzzzpinator having flashbacks to grammar zzzzzchool!"]]
Waspinator caught Tarantulas stealing a [[transwarp cell]] from the ''Darksyde'', but he was unable to stop the spider from leaving, as Tarantulas tossed him a bomb and locked the door behind him. Trapped inside, Waspinator was soon in a multitude of separate pieces. {{storylink|Before the Storm}} Recovered and ready to take revenge on Tarantulas, he was instead sent by Megatron to secure a new [[Bio-Dome|alien site]]. Unfortunately, once he got there, he encountered Rattrap, who saw him off with a "robonoogie" and a kick to the unmentionables. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} He retired to the ''Darksyde'', where the Predacons monitored the situation with the [[Planet Buster]] weapon which had been revealed from the planet's second moon. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

[[File:ComingFuzors1 Waspinator cubed.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Rube-ik's Cube]]
After the Planet Buster was destroyed, the strange energies of a [[quantum surge]] saturated both ships. Waspinator lost control of his hoversled and was tipped into one of the restoration pools. Bathed in the regenerative fluids, he was prevented from becoming a [[Transmetal]]. He and his newly upgraded leader mounted an attack on the ''Axalon'', but once Waspinator faced a similarly upgraded Cheetor, he soon retreated. {{storylink|Aftermath}} Waspinator was the first to realize that the seemingly unknown planet on which they'd landed was, in fact, [[Earth]]. Dinobot had made the same realization and stole into the ''Darksyde'' to retrieve both of Megatron's disks. Waspinator proposed the two work together to steal the disks, and much to his surprise, Dinobot agreed... and threw him into the security shield. Waspinator was crushed into a cube by the disks' security contraption, leaving Dinobot free to steal the disks unharmed while Waspinator crawled away to the CR chamber using two fingers.

He got himself repaired in time to join Megatron's forces on the battlefield, where they outnumbered Dinobot, Cheetor and Rattrap. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}} He was teamed up with new recruit [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] to attack the ''Axalon'' by air. After asserting his authority over the [[Fuzor]], he was promptly knocked out of the air by Cheetor. After piercing Sentinel's defenses (and shooting Dinobot in the crotch), he joined the other Predacons as they prepared to finish off the Maximals for good... but was the first victim of a reborn Transmetal Optimus Primal. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}} {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

Waspinator and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] were tasked with constructing a new jamming tower. They constructed it successfully, but while Waspinator proudly reported their success to Megatron, Inferno playfully knocked the tower over on him. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} Another of Waspinator's rare victories came when he shot Silverbolt from behind, causing the Maximal to crash into Dinobot, effectively taking both out. While Inferno took off with Dinobot's prone form, [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] refused to help Waspy carry Silverbolt. A short time later, Rattrap mimicked Quickstrike's voice, tricking Waspinator into picking up a gas mine, and Waspinator's victory was no more. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}}

Waspinator and the rest of the Predacons installed shield generators around another alien site, but the [[Metal Hunter|alien construct]] which appeared zapped everyone, sending him into stasis lock. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} Megatron took control of the construct and restored all of the Predacons to working order. Waspinator and Inferno retrieved transwarp cells to give the ship transwarp capability. They were later sent out to defend the construct against the Maximals. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

[[File:BadSpark Waspinator defeated.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Not quite what "stick the landing" means.]]
Sent with Blackarachnia to claim another pod, Waspinator didn't last long before he was shot down by Cheetor and landed head first. {{storylink|Bad Spark}} He also took part in the attack on the valley where the [[protohuman]]s were living, but his contribution ended when Dinobot stuffed him head-first into [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]'s main cannon and Rampage exploded. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

As by Megatron's calculations, the [[transwarp wavefront]] from the Planet Buster explosion would soon be reaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the Predacons mounted an attack on the ''Axalon''. The Maximals received reinforcements in the form of Predacon covert agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], whose [[transwarp cruiser]] saw the Predacons off. Waspinator was subsequently given a new solo mission by Megatron, and he departed when the Maximals next attacked. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} Just as he arrived at his [[Mount St. Hilary|destination]], Blackarachnia accidentally hit him with her hoversled, knocking him apart. Waspinator once again started gathering himself together. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

Waspinator pulled himself together in time to aid Megatron's escape, after the Predacon leader badly damaged [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. He, Megatron and Inferno headed for the ''Axalon'', but Cheetor and Primal caught up with them, and Waspinator was downed by one shot from Cheetor. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}} After Inferno was blown to bits while attacking the Maximal base, Megatron sent Waspinator to salvage him. Waspinator was less than happy, complaining that no one ever salvaged ''him.'' {{storylink|Deep Metal}} He was able to get the drop on Silverbolt when the Maximals were attempting to salvage [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]], and he happily flew off with the module. He was so excited, he figured Megatron would give him a vacation for this.

{{Quote|Waspinator having good day! Not get shot once!}}

[[File:Waspinatorigor.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Igor needs to file his nails.]]
Sadly, he didn't get very far before Silverbolt and Rattrap caught up, blasting him out of the air so they could reclaim Sentinel. {{storylink|Changing of the Guard}} After Megatron developed [[cyber raptor]]s, Waspinator and Tarantulas were sent out with a group of them to attack Cheetor and Blackarachnia. The Maximals soon discovered that destroying the raptors' control components sent them wild, and Waspinator was stomped into the ground by an out-of-control dinosaur. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}} Another of Waspinator's increasingly few victories came when he managed to snatch a stasis pod from under the Maximals' noses. He acted as lab assistant as Megatron utilized the [[blank]] [[protoform]] contained in the pod, plus a [[transmetal driver]], to create a new [[Dinobot II|Dinobot]]. Unfortunately, even this victory was short-lived, as a short time later, the device Megatron was using exploded, and Waspinator was caught in the blast. After getting repaired, he made his way to where Megatron was interrogating [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]... only to be blasted by his own trigger-happy leader. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}}

After Megatron discovered that Cheetor had upgraded himself into a [[Transmetal 2]], he sent Waspinator and Dinobot out to find and capture the kitty. The pair located him in a cave, but as Dinobot began to move in, Waspinator asserted his own leadership...and was shredded by Dinobot. Following another bout of repairs, Waspinator rejoined the hunt, and they eventually found Cheetor again. Waspinator was offhandedly slagged by the Maximal while trying to sneak up. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 2}}

[[File:Go with the Flow Waspinator Una.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"Oh, Waspinator want to renegotiate contract..."]]
Requiring someone organic to complete the [[disruptor cannon]], Megatron sent Waspinator and Inferno to pick up a protohuman. Waspinator was able to capture [[Una]], but she did quite a bit of damage to him on the flight back. On reaching the mountain hideout, Waspinator reported success and promptly collapsed into a collection of parts. At some point, he got repaired and was able to join in the pursuit of Rattrap and Una as they escaped. He was hit in the face by mud, sending him out of control, crashing into first Inferno, then Dinobot, and allowing the Maximals to escape. The three Predacons were called back to the mountain, where Megatron attempted to use the disruptor cannon, which promptly exploded. {{storylink|Go with the Flow}} Waspinator's next glorious mission was an attack on the Maximal base. Unfortunately for him, his expected backup wasn't there, and he was swatted by Optimus Primal. It had all been a ploy to draw Primal out so that Tarantulas could deliver a device to take control of the Maximal leader. {{storylink|Master Blaster}}

During Quickstrike's trial for betraying Megatron, Waspinator was his defense attorney. He didn't do a very excellent job of defending his client as he wanted to see him get punished. However, before Quickstrike's sentence was cast, the ''Darksyde'' was destroyed at [[Tigerhawk]]'s hands. In retaliation, Megatron ordered the Predacons to attack, but Tigerhawk summoned a tornado that swooped up Waspinator, Inferno, and Quickstrike. Waspinator looked on the bright side that he had company this time. {{storylink|Other Victories}}

With their base gone, Megatron sent Waspinator, [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]], and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] on an errand to find a new base, which was really nothing more than pointless busywork while Megatron went to do more important things. As the trio staked out an early [[human]] tribe that had taken up residence in a series of caves, Waspinator decided he'd finally had enough and ripped off his [[insignia|Predacon symbol]], declaring himself out of the Beast Wars.

[[File:Waspinatorhappyatlast.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Wazzzzpinator happy at last! ...until the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|next series]].]]
{{quote|I said '''no!''' [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Dragon-Bot]] command '''you,''' [[Sub-Commander]] [[Inferno (BW)|Kiss-Butt]]! Dragon-Bot not command Waspinator! Not any more! Waspinator sick of being evil! Sick of being Predacon! And Waspinator especially sick of getting blown to '''scrap''' all the time! Sooo, Waspinator '''quit!''' As of '''now,''' which means [[Inferno (BW)|Ant-Bot]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Two-Head]] can just pucker their mandibles and plant [[Kiss|big, wet, juicy one]] right here on Waspinator's big...fat..stripy...}}

At this point, Waspinator was interrupted by getting blown to scrap by Inferno and Quickstrike. Also, note that this is the first (and only) time that he refers to himself as "I". {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

His parts recovered by the protohuman tribe, Waspinator remained on Earth while all the other surviving Transformers set off for Cybertron, and led the tribe, declaring that he was finally... happy. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

For a bit, at least.
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====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Kensō Katō]] (Japanese)|[[Victor Covarrubias]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Vittorio Stagni]] (Italian), [[Thomas Nero Wolff]] (German)}}

[[File:Wazzpithrust TheCatalyst.jpg|thumb|''Bug to be wiiii-iii-ild!'']]
Waspinator grew bored of being a god to the Protohumans and started flicking rocks at their heads. The Protohumans he had ruled over grew tired of his presence and evicted him from their settlement by catapulting him from a tree. After this, Waspinator returned to Cybertron, which "took forever". Once home, his spark was removed and used to power the [[Vehicon general]] [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. He ''loved'' being a cool biker-bot as he now got respect and was finding [[Blackarachnia (BW)|chicks]] dig the new brooding bad boy schtick!

It turned out that Waspinator had a secret infatuation with Blackarachnia: influences from his inner spark caused Thrust to save her life several times. She thought this was because he carried ''[[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]'s'' spark. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery|Discovery}} She later tried to bring his original mind back and discovered, to her disgust, that she'd spent all her effort getting Waspinator back. Poor Waspinator was rather upset to find Blackarachnia no longer wanted to "go steady" with him, and briefly had a punch-up with a revived Silverbolt over her honour. {{storylink|The Catalyst}}

[[File:Wazzpinator.jpg|left|thumb|Why [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] hate Wazzzzpinator?]]

Following Blackarachnia's unambiguous rejection of him (''there's'' gratitude for you!), Waspinator remained in the "background" and let Thrust run the show, and nobody ever expressed interest in reformatting Thrust to free Waspinator. In the final battle, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] used an [[Spark extractor|extractor]] to remove Waspinator's spark from the body shell. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall|When Legends Fall}} After Cybertron's [[technorganic]] reformatting (thanks to Optimus Primal, through the cost of his and Megatron's lives) Waspinator returned in his [[beast mode]] with Thrust's head, now the size of a standard wasp. He complained to Rattrap about how much he wanted glory and power and never gets what he wants... at which point Rattrap swatted him away. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|Seeds of the Future}}
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====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
[[File:Atari meets optimus primal.jpg|125px|thumb|Even in this series, Waspinator gets shot at.]]

=====Yokohama Decepticon Secret Base=====
Waspinator was witness to [[Predacon computer|NAVI-ko]] being sent through [[transwarp]] to acquire [[Yokohama Convoy|Nemesis Prime]] for the Predacon forces. {{storylink|Yokohama Decepticon Secret Base}}

=====''Cloud''=====
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=====''Beast Wars Diorama Story''=====
Soon after his encounter with Starscream, Waspinator was part of an initially ordinary skirmish between the Maximals and the Predacons. {{Storylink|Optimus Primal Chapter}} He personally attacked Cheetor with his Beebee Shot, but the cheetah countered with a Laser Shot. {{Storylink|Cheetor Chapter}} Waspinator struck with another Beebee Shot. {{Storylink|Waspinator Chapter}} The battle was later joined by Transformers from [[Movie timeline|another universe]]. The Decepticons allied themselves with the Predacons, while the Autobots did the same with the Maximals. {{Storylink|Tigatron Chapter}} After the alternate [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] arrived, {{storylink|Gimlet Chapter}} the two allied forces faced off against one other in one last strike. {{Storylink|Motorarm Chapter}}

=====''15 Go! Go!''=====
The time-traveling [[human]] [[Atari Hitotonari]] and the [[Sparkbot]] [[Star Dust]] witnessed a battle between Waspinator and Optimus Primal. However, the two interlopers could not be seen by either of the warriors. {{storylink|Sparkbots Volume 2}}
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====3H comics====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English)}}
[[Antagony (BW)|Antagony]] threatened to blast Waspinator if Megatron did not back down. Waspinator's warranty had expired, but it didn't matter as Antagony accidentally wasted her last shot when she sneezed. Do we even need to guess what happened to Waspinator? {{storylink|Visitations}}

Later, to his credit, Waspinator was the only Predacon aside from Megatron to not be paralyzed in fear at the sight of a [[Unicron]]-possessed [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]]. Of course, Waspinator had just been blown up for the umpteen millionth time. None of the Maximals expressed satisfaction. They always got Waspinator. Always. {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Paradox}}

{{note|Although [[3H Productions]] folded before the ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' comic could be concluded, [[Dan Khanna]] revealed that the unproduced ending of ''Primeval Dawn'' would have concluded with Waspinator traveling with a victorious [[Primal Prime]]'s team through the transwarp portal built by the undead [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] to present day Cybertron, thus explaining how Waspinator was able to return to Cybertron to become [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]].}}

After the reformatting of Cybertron, Waspinator came under the command of [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]. His tiny size and great speed made him an excellent scout and messenger, and he reported to Galvatron that the invading Quintessons had entered a particular canyon that the Predacons had booby-trapped. He seemed very giddy to have a commander who actually found him useful for once. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

Later, Waspinator was part of a team of [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] sent to rescue victims of [[Unicron]] who had been transported to an isolated, icy planetoid. He didn't really know what he was doing there and neither did [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (who wasn't sure why they hadn't just whacked him on principle). When [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] attacked, the Beast Warriors were luckily warped to the passing Autobot ship ''OTFCC'' before being wiped out. During the later battle, Waspinator was blasted his own side after he happily admitted he liked "[[Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom]]". {{storylink|Voice Actor Drama}}

====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
As [[Magmatron]] surveyed the timestream, he witnessed several key moments during the Beast Wars. Among those moments was Starscream's possession of Waspinator's body. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}
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====Waspscream continuity====
Later, the spark of the Waspinator of [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]] was possessed by the immortal spark of Starscream of [[Primax 206.15 Gamma]] after the latter's defeat at the hand of the Maximals. When the Quantum Surge hit prehistoric Earth, Starscream was able to influence Waspinator's transmetalization so that the Predacon's third mode would resemble Starscream's own original fighter jet mode. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #4}}

This time around, Starscream permanently took over Waspinator's body, and killed the Maximals before seizing leadership of the Predacons for himself. On returning to Cybertron, 'Waspscream' was [[Reformatting|reformat]]ted into a [[technorganic]] body by the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] which Starscream used to battle against Megatron for control of Cybertron's stolen sparks. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

The two of them bickered constantly over control of the shared body, their two distinct voices audible to whoever was in earshot. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #4}}

====Hall of Fame bio====
Before taking on a wasp form, Waspinator was known as '''Wasp'''. He, along with the other Predacons, stole the Golden Disk from the [[Hall of Records]]. {{storylink|Transformers Hall of Fame}}

====''Timelines''====
While [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], his [[Dinobot (BW)|lieutenant]], and [[Scorponok (BW)|another underling]] stole a Maximal relic, the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], the Predacon who would later name himself Waspinator stole a ship from [[Predacon Transwarp Research Center D-F]] with the help of [[Terrorsaur (BW)|an accomplice]]. {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk}}

[[File:Waspinatordawn.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Waspy is mi kopilot, but hoo on Sibertron is mi spelcheker?]]
The two had a contest to name the ship, but "Waspinator" lost, and thus the stolen ship was dubbed the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]''. "Waspinator" believed ''Buzzerbot'' would have been a better name. For reasons known only to [[Primus]], Megatron agreed.

After escaping [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the ''Darksyde'' was intercepted by the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' and the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', but after an intense space battle, only the ''Darksyde'' and the ''Axalon'' remained. Megatron ordered "Waspinator" to ''excecute'' their planned [[transwarp]] jump, opening up a portal which both ships entered. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

Two weeks after [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] was reborn on [[Earth]], Waspinator fought to defend an orbital weapon from the Maximals. Waspinator was defeated by Airazor. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}}

====''TransTech''====
When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] possessed Waspinator, he granted the Predacon his longevity and the ability to travel through time. Much later, after Cybertron became a technorganic world, the fused Thrust-Waspinator entity, now calling himself Thrustinator, gained a new body, but somehow got separated from his native universe. He met up with [[Heinrad (TransTech)|Heinrad]], and Thrustinator's chronal phase from Starscream helped Heinrad master his own time abilities. In return for aid in "fixing" the past, Heinrad promised to Thrustinator that he would be returned to his home universe. {{storylink|Timeless}}

Thurstinator was next sent to a prehistoric post-[[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] Earth to stabilize the damaged timeline by removing the "anomaly": [[Packrat]]. Surprising Packrat by not showing up on [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]]'s scans for Predacon intruders, Thrustinator offered to take Packrat to a Cybertron. When Packrat declined in favor of staying to break into the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', Thrustinator disabled Packrat with a [[circuit stunner]] and opened a multiversal portal to [[Axiom Nexus]]. {{storylink|Collections}}

====''Wings Universe''====
When the Star Seekers broke out of prison following their capture by the [[Cybertronian Knight]]s in 2984, [[Tornado]] managed to grab a significant portion of the prison database. Among the files was surveillance footage of Waspinator in his cell, scrawling what appeared to be random patterns on the wall. However, [[Cannonball (G1)|Captain Cannonball]] recognized that the drawings were star charts to the Star Seekers' next goal: the immortal spark of the infamous Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]! {{storylink|Tornado - Decepticon Saboteur}}

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
Waspinator alerted Megatron to the arrival of a new [[stasis pod]]. Megatron, in no shape to go after it, angrily swatted him away. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 2|Beast Wars Metals #2}}

Later, after Megatron was dismembered by the lunatic [[Jaguar]], Waspinator recovered his severed (but still functioning) head. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 3|Beast Wars Metals #3}} Following Megatron's instructions, Waspinator carried his head to the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', where Megatron intended to kill the slumbering [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Blackarachnia intervened, kicking Megatron's head out of Waspinator's hands and into a lava pool. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 5|Beast Wars Metals #5}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
The Predacons crashed on Earth in [[Mexico]] around 1,000 BC. Acting on Megatron's orders, Tarantulas and Waspinator enslaved the local [[Natiltec]] tribe, who saw Waspinator as some sort of "wasp-god", and forced them to mine energon. Silverbolt mounted a heroic rescue, struggling with Waspinator as the humans escape. The Natiltec later immortalised the event on a cave wall, which was uncovered some three thousand years later by a team of archaeologists. {{storylink|Fire in the Dark}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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[[File:TheHuntingParty-Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|This is how you know it's the real Waspinator.]]

During the early days of the war, Waspinator served under [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] as part of a [[Titan Hunter|team]] sent to find the lost [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titan]], [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. On the two-hundred-and-thirty-eighth day of this grueling campaign, Waspinator and his colleagues destroyed a [[Nibarian]] outpost because they believed it was between them and their quarry. A hunch from [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] led them further to a planet inhabited by [[Urtuskian]]s. As Waspinator and the other Decepticons started obliterating the primitive outpost, believing Metroplex was underneath (and also because it was fun), their team was caught up to by a team of [[Autobot]]s who had been trailing them. Waspinator was the first casualty of this battle, blasted from behind and left stunned. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}

Waspinator carried on as a Titan Hunter, even after Bludgeon and Thundercracker were no longer with the team. When the hunters at last found a Metrotitan, Waspinator managed to be the one to deliver a mortal blow—much to his misfortune. The Metrotitan panicked and opened a [[space bridge]], flinging itself and Waspinator through time and space. Eventually, after the Metrotitan's functions had ceased, Waspinator managed to take control of it and was able to use its space bridge-generating power to return to reality. Long afterwards, when Waspinator was drowning his sorrows at a seedy bar somewhere within the universe, he found himself confronted by his old superior, Bludgeon, and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. Upon hearing Waspinator's tale, Jhiaxus convinced the hapless Decepticon to join his party, seeing that his titan-controlling ability could be useful. The group went to [[Gorlam Prime]], where Waspinator pretended to be chased by the [[Pretender Monster|Monstructor Six]] so as to lure [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] and his friends into coming to his "rescue." The ploy worked, and as Pax and the others struggled to hold off [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]], Waspinator said he had been brought to the planet to do something "terrible" and made the former Autobot leader realize that the ancient ruins beneath Gorlam Prime's surface were a slumbering Metrotitan. When Pax awakened the Metrotitan to battle Monstructor, Waspinator made his move and connected himself to the Titan so as to take control of it like he had in the past. Under Jhiaxus' orders, Waspinator forced the Metrotitan to teleport to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Homecoming (IDW)|Homecoming}}

[[File:DarkDawn-Waspinator.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Ooh...Wazzpinator working for important Decepticon. Maybe Wazzpinator not get damaged this time."]]

Guiding the Metrotitan to [[Crystal City]], {{storylink|Soundwaves (issue)|Soundwaves}} Waspinator was quick to pledge allegiance to Jhiaxus's ally, [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]], who used [[Ore-14]] to transform the Titan into the undead [[Necrotitan]]. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} When the combined forces of [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]]'s Autobots and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons attacked Crystal City to put a stop to their plans, Shockwave had Waspinator relinquish his stinger, recognizing that the weapon had forged Waspinator's link to the Necrotitan when he had used it to deliver its killing blow. While Waspinator's limited intelligence had been unable to make much sense of the link to the giant's mind, Shockwave used the weapon to much greater effect, taking direct control of the Necrotitan and using it to scatter their attackers. {{storylink|Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5|Finest Hour}} Shockwave then tasked Waspinator with bringing the useful body of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] to his chambers, but [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] took over this duty as he didn't trust "modern" Cybertronians. Waspinator accompanied him, carrying Megatron's legs, only to be knocked out when Megatron revealed himself to still be alive. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}

[[File:BlackPlanet-Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|"''Sigh''...why doezz Wazzpinator bother?"]]

As Waspinator had already served his purpose by providing the Necrotitan, Shockwave punished him for letting Megatron escape by ordering [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] to execute him, but Metalhawk resisted his control and spared the bug. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}} The two spied on Shockwave as he revealed the disastrous end goal of his plan, after which they were approached by [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] who teleported them out to warn the other Transformers. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} As the Autobots and Decepticons formed a group to oppose Shockwave, an unwilling Waspinator was dragged along thanks to his knowledge of Crystal City's layout. As soon as they were teleported into Shockwave's lair, however, he was impaled by Bludgeon and left on the sidelines to lament his lot in life. {{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}}

Six months after the battle with Shockwave, a recovered Waspinator was drinking at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]] when [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] stopped by. {{storylink|A 'Bot and Her City}} At some point he had located and gotten thrown out of [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Regenesis]] mine within Metroplex, and following an attempt on Windblade's life, he commented that she shouldn't have been snooping around in Metroplex either. When this comment caught the attention of Windblade, he assumed she wanted to hurt him and tried to flee, only to be taken down by [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]]. Windblade herself proved more sympathetic to Waspinator's plight and comforted the paranoid 'bot until he agreed to show her the mine. {{storylink|Windblade issue 2|Windblade vol. 1 #2}} Their investigation into the mine eventually got them captured by Starscream, but fortunately Chromia, [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], and some other neutrals broke them out of jail. {{storylink|Windblade issue 3|Windblade vol. 1 #3}}

[[File:WorldOfTomorrow-WaspySkyByte.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|EVERY NOW AND THEN I FALL APAAAARRT]]

Waspinator later partied it up at Maccadam's some time after [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s reactivation, sharing a song with [[Sky-Byte (G2)|Sky-Byte]]. {{storylink|The World of Tomorrow}} After a disastrous first contact with [[Caminus]], Waspinator was one of the Decepticons who went to the colony to help the locals. He was confused to find the locals were glad to see him and even asked ''why'' they were being nice to him. {{storylink|The Possible Light}} When [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] attempted to force the Cybertronians off Caminus, Waspinator was the first to see him coming (and to run away). His contribution to the battle was mainly to run around screaming, but he managed to avoid getting stepped on, impaled, or blown up, which is a pretty good outcome for him. {{storylink|Mistakes and Mayhem}} After the battle was over, Waspinator and [[Sparkstalker]] helped repair the damage to Caminus, earning the Decepticons respect from the Camiens. {{storylink|You, Me, and the Universe}} He was then caught up in the combiner war between Devastator, [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] and was urged to get to safety by Chromia. {{storylink|All That Remains}} Once the situation finally cooled down and an alliance between Cybertron and Caminus was brokered, Waspinator attended a "Not the End of the World" party at Maccadam's where he danced with [[Octane|Tall]] and [[Tankor (BM)|Fat Tankor]]. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}}

Waspinator was later minding his own business on the street when he was almost run over by [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]. {{storylink|An Uneventful Night}} He then got caught up in a bar fight started by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] at Maccadam's, and commented that he hated weekends. {{storylink|The Transformers: Redemption|Redemption}}

When Starscream announced "Chosen One Day," Waspinator could be seen relaxing in a pool of energon. {{storylink|Choose Me}}
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===''Transformers Legends'' comic===
A resident of the [[Legends Universe]], Waspinator attended [[Transformers Celebration 2014]] where he bought some ''Transformers'' toys. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Transformers Celebration 2014|Bonus Chapter: Transformers Celebration 2014}} A huge ''Transformers'' fan and employee of [[Tera-Kura Co.]], {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Rivals! Tera-Kura Co.!|Rivals! Tera-Kura Co.!}} he claimed to know everything about ''Transformers'' but also refused to talk about ''anything else'', even with clients. After an incident where he hung up on a client who didn't want to talk ''Transformers'', his boss [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] broke him into pieces. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Buzz Buzz Buzz, Wasps Fly, Buzzzzzz|Buzz Buzz Buzz, Wasps Fly, Buzzzzzz}} At one point, Waspinator was standing behind [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] in line at [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]'s toy shop. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 1|Bonus Edition Vol. 1}}

After being beaten again for playing with toys during work hours, Waspinator was approached by a bashful Megatron who asked to see him after work. Believing his boss was hitting on him, he protested that he didn't swing that way, unaware that Megatron just wanted to learn more about ''Transformers'' and impress [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#President Mega's Requests|President Mega's Requests}} Agreeing to be Megatron's personal ''Transformers'' teacher, Waspinator taught him various Transformer names through use of a song and provided him with material to study on the train. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#President Mega's Studies|President Mega's Studies}} When [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] attacked [[Tokyo]] with [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] and [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], Waspinator recognized the latter two as [[Wrecker]]s from a [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|UK ''Transformers'' comic]], interrupting Tankor's own claims that they were from an [[w:Special Armored Battalion Dorvack|'80s mecha anime]]. He was promptly chased off by the annoyed Tankor. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 4|Bonus Edition Vol. 4}}

During a subsequent lesson, Waspinator attempted to teach his boss about Roadbuster and Whirl's origins, but didn't get far since Megatron was distracted by fantasies about what British Transformers must be like. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Whirl and Roadbuster Now on Sale, Buzz|Whirl and Roadbuster Now on Sale, Buzz}} Waspinator celebrated [[Christmas]] with his sons, [[Buzz Saw (AOE)|Buzz Saw]] and [[Venin]], and suggested the readers reward themselves with some ''Transformers'' purchases in the upcoming year. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Christmas|Merry X'mas!!}} Waspinator and Rattrap were present when [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] arrived in the Legends Universe, explaining Transformers were fictional in their world and breaking it to him that he wasn't as popular as he hoped. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 6|Bonus Edition Vol. 6}} When Megatron was acting weird during [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]'s job interview, Waspinator explained that the president had been watching [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|the third movie]] the day before. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#The Results of Mega-chan's Studies|The Results of Mega-chan's Studies}} Unlike Blackarachnia, he went home when the workday was over instead of stick around to do more work. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Widow-chan at Work|Widow-chan at Work}}

Waspinator was temporarily turned into [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] due to [[Transformers sickness]]. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#I'm Tankor, dana!|I'm Tankor, dana!}} When [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] appeared in the Legends Universe, Waspinator initially mistook her for [[Nijika]] from ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (franchise)|Transformers 2010]]'' and, to Megatron's frustration, was the only one to understand her explanation about the Legends Universe's status as a [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]] creation. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 12|Bonus Edition Vol. 12}} His nerdy knowledge came in handy again when Tera-Kura was invaded by [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|another Megatron]], as he was able to teach his own Megatron everything there was to know about the newcomer's history. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 13|Bonus Edition Vol. 13}} He was present at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2015 where he witnessed [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]] causing trouble. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Black Convoy)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} A third Megatron known as [[Megatron (Armada)|Armada Megatron]] later showed up and started stealing [[Mini-Con]] toys from everyone, including Waspinator. After Rattrap had chased the villain away, Waspinator claimed a stolen [[Dragoyell]] belonged to him, and not Rattrap. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Armada Megatron)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

Waspinator later bothered the "original Megatron" after he'd assumed the position of chairman of Tera-Kura Co. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Widow-chan's Usual Day|Widow-chan's Usual Day}} President Megatron invited him and all other employees out for a night on the town after work, but no one showed up. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter|The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter}} Waspinator was present at the show floor where Tera-Kura unveiled their latest product, [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird Shadow]], to the public. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 15|Bonus Edition Vol. 15}} He was at the office when Chairman Megatron recruited new employee [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]], {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|Bonus Edition Vol. 16}} as well as when Blackarachnia was thinking about her life working under her idolized Megatron. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 17|Bonus Edition Vol. 17}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (N64)===
[[File:N64Waspinators.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|[[Neon]] Camo Waspinator and Transmetal [[Buzz Saw (BW)|Buzz Saw]]! In stores now!]]
[[File:TMWaspinator-Render.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Full Metal Yellowjacket]]
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}

[[Transmetal]] Waspinator joined his fellow Predacons in distributing various one-on-one beat downs to the Maximals. Eventually he got fed up, quit, and became god to early humanity. He did this after ''kicking everyone's ass''. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)}}

{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Waspinator's fate in those outcomes.}}

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===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (PS)===
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}
{{Storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (PS)}}
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===''Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars''===
Megatron was capable of summoning Waspinator forth to the battlefield in his attempts to acquire the super-powerful [[energon crystal]]. {{storylink|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Waspinator, alongside Blackarachnia and Terrorsaur, happened upon an impact crater containing a large stasis pod marked with a red "X". Also finding Silverbolt at the scene, the Predacons fought with Maximal, until what was within the pod was accidentally let loose... From within emerged the monstrous [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]! After being separated by the fight from Blackarachnia and Silverbolt for a time, Waspinator contributed to Rampage's defeat, just in time for Megatron to arrive at the scene. {{storylink|When Sparks Fly}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsWaspinator.jpg|thumb|right|400px|"Wazzzpinator has <strike>plans</strike> tacticzzzz."]]
Waspinator participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a Rare character who first appeared in the "Beast Wars: Episode 1" event, and could be recruited by collecting 160 units of Cybermetal, and 95 units of Transmetal. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[File:Waspinatorjbwtoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The Japanese version is more [[Playskool]].]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, [[1996]]/[[1997]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-3'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:Waspinator transforms into a large organic wasp. His stinger separates to become a hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher for his [[robot mode]]; the bolts are stored on the underside of his insect-wings. His head is on a vertical column that rotates around a horizontal axle; each end has a different head, one "mutant", one "robot". The "mutant" head was used as the base for his CGI model, and thus the norm for his fictional portrayals. The [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] version of Waspinator uses slightly brighter, more primary colors than the [[Hasbro]] version. Like many early Beast Wars toys, Waspinator's beast mode contains a gross detail that stems from his organic styling. Removing Waspinator's stinger in beast mode will reveal a small larva living in his abdomen. The larva forms Waspinator's pelvis in robot mode

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed for a "[[Fox Kids]]" version, as well as [[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|both the Hasbro and Takara 10th anniversary versions]] of the character.

:This mold was also used to make [[Buzz Saw (BW)|Buzz Saw]] and [[retool]]ed into [[Dirge (BWII)#Mutant|Dirgegun]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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[[File:VS3-CheetorWaspinator.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Catbug is a cat but he's got bugness in his veins.]]
*'''Showdown of the Quickest: Cheetus VS Waspeeter''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-3'''
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, 2 missiles

:In Japan, Waspinator was available both separately and in a VS pack with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Dx1|Cheetor]]. Both toys are identical to their original releases.

:Currently, it is unknown if the later "show-like" versions of the two toys were ever released in the VS set.
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[[File:Waspinator-TMtoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Contains a tiny bit of Starscream in every mold.]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe Transmetal, [[1998]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-42'''
**''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:Now an almost completely robotic figure, [[Transmetal]] Waspinator transforms into a robotic wasp. He features a [[transportation mode|F-15-like jet mode]], flipping and folding his wings into a fighter-jet configuration as well as flipping a cockpit/nosecone between his insect-head mandibles. Though he appears solid black at first glance, he is actually made of very dark transparent-black/green plastic.

:The Takara version of this toy is almost completely identical, except the "WASPINATOR" [[tampograph]] on his wing was replaced with "DESTRON" and the Predacon sigil.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed for a "[[Fox Kids]]" version of the character. It was slated for a ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[#Universe_.282003.29|version of Waspinator]], but that set was canceled.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Transmetal Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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*'''Hurricane Showdown: Metals Cheetus VS Metals Waspeeter''' (VS pack, [[1999]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''VS-42'''
**''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:In Japan, Transmetal Waspinator was available both individually and in a two-pack with [[Cheetor (BW)#TM1|Transmetal Cheetor]]. The two-pack version was unchanged from the normal individually-packaged one.
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[[File:Waspinator-FKtoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Do be a blue bee.]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, 1999)
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:This toy is a [[redeco]] of the first Waspinator toy. A "[[Fox Kids|FoxKids!]]" sticker on the packaging promoted the cartoon, which was playing on Fox at the time. Like most of the other Fox Kids redecoes, his color scheme was altered significantly, consisting primarily of slate blue and green-gold plastic, with dark blue (barely) translucent parts.

:Hasbro solicitations for this toy gave it the name "Power Flight Waspinator",<ref>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.toys.transformers/C30fV9dqOK0/gPO8D3N_PAUJ</ref> but this name never made it to final packaging.

:This toy's deco was later used to create the non-toy character [[Buzzbomb]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Predacon/FKWaspinator/fkwaspinator.htm More information on Fox Kids Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BW FoxKidsTransmetal Waspinator toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Why FoxKidzzzz hate Waspinator?]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe Transmetal, [[2000]])
**''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:This toy is a [[redeco]] of the Transmetal Waspinator toy. A "Fox Kids!" sticker on the packaging promoted the cartoon, which was playing on Fox at the time. The toy's new deco bears more than a passing resemblance to [[Buzz Saw (BW)|Buzz Saw]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Predacon/FKTMWaspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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===Universe (2003)===
[[File:Waspinator unreleased.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Wazzpinator... purple?]]

For a brief time, [[Hasbro]]'s official website checklist featured listings for two "Halloween [[Horrorcon (Universe)|Horrorcon]] Value Packs" that were to be Wal-Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were canceled. (Wal-Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other ''Transformers'' exclusives were canceled during the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' era.)

In 2004, several test-shots appeared on eBay in a group, among them the Transmetal Waspinator toy with opaque-salmon wings and lavender insect legs. This, presumably, was to have been the ''Universe'' incarnation of Waspinator, as the other toys in the group line up with the names given for the two Halloween sets. He was to come in a "Vs." two-pack with the presumably-[[Autobot]] character [[Nightprowler]].
::*''[http://s33.photobucket.com/user/binalternator/library/unreleased/halloween_horrorcons?sort=4&page=1 Gallery of Nightprowler vs. Waspinator test-shots]''
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===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[File:Waspinatortenthtoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally Waspinator come with pieces that aren't Waspinator's!]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, [[2006]])
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, 2 missiles, Transmutate's head

:This toy is a slight [[redeco]] of the first Waspinator toy to make it closer to Waspinator's cartoon appearance, replacing the gray with green and adding extra gold [[Paint operation|paint applications]]. He came with the head to [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]] plus a DVD with the episode "[[Possession]]".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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===Timelines===
[[File:TL-toy Waspinator-BC06.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|This works surprisingly well on many levels.]]
* '''Darksyde Megatron and Darksyde Waspinator''' (Bagged set, 2006)
** ''Accessories'': 2-part rifle

:Available [[exclusive]]ly at the [[BotCon 2006]] event itself, this two-pack represents Waspinator and Megatron before the events of the ''Beast Wars'' show. "Darksyde Waspinator" is a Basic-sized figure, originally used for ''[[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]]'' [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#MW|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#MW|Thundercracker]], which autotransforms to robot mode from a [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#Dassault Rafale|Dassault Rafale fighter jet]]. (One can surmise, however, that it is meant to represent a Cybertronic design in this case.) His rifle splits into two pieces, which store in the backs of his lower legs.

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]], [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[Skyfire (RID)|Skyfire]], and ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' [[Wingstun]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCWaspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Darksyde Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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* '''Thrustinator''' (Deluxe, [[2014]])
**''TFSS2 number'': '''4'''
** ''Accessories:'' missile launcher, 2 missiles

:Part of the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Figure Subscription Service]] 2.0, Thrustinator is the [[Dirge (BWII)#Dirgegun|Dirgegun]] tooling with a [[retool]]ed head, now [[redeco]]ed to look like an amalgam of Waspinator and [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. His stinger becomes a hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher; the missiles are hidden in each of his wings. These missiles can also be used in the launcher mounted on his beast mode back. This mold has a pop-up gun in place of the mutant head found on the original, meaning you have to flip his head down if you want to use this feature in robot mode.

:The original version of Dirgegun's mold was, of course, used for like a dozen Waspinators and a Buzz Saw.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Predacon/TFSSThrustinator/thrustinator.htm More information on Thrustinator at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Wars Telemocha Series===
[[File:Waspinatortelemocha.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Waspinator now comes with more ball-joints for easy disassembly. Recreate your favorite moments from the show!]]
*'''Waspeeter''' (Deluxe, [[2007]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TM-04'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:This toy is a ridiculously-extensively-painted redeco of the first Waspinator toy to make it almost completely [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] to Waspinator's cartoon appearance (forgiving mold issues and [[unpaintable plastic]], of course).

:He came with a DVD of the episode "The Aerial Mountains Explode", the Japanese dub of "[[Power Surge (episode)|Power Surge]]".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Telemocha Series Waspinator at TFU.info (scroll down)]''
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===Generations===
[[File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsStarscreamWaspinator.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|As an exorcist, Skywarp's strategy was to just push both of them down a flight of stairs.]]
*'''Starscream & Waspinator''' (Legends Class, [[2013]])
**''Series / Number'': '''02 / #003'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 null ray cannons

:Part of the fourth wave of [[2012]]-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]] toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' Waspinator comes with [[Starscream (G1)/toys#GenLegends|Starscream]] in [[homage]] to the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' episode, "[[Possession]]". Waspinator can transform into a wasp, a robot with [[C joint|3mm-compatible]] hands, and a gun with [[5mm post|5mm handle]]. He has an [[autotransformation]] feature that folds up his wings when his gun barrel is extended.

:This mold was also used to make ''Generations'' [[Venin]] and [[Movie Advanced Series]] [[Buzz Saw (AOE)|Buzz Saw]], as well as the four [[Waruder]] pilots for [[BotCon 2015]], [[Ripper (Diaclone)|Ripper]], [[Buzzer (Diaclone)|Buzzer]], [[Thrasher (Diaclone)|Thrasher]], and [[Crusher (Diaclone)|Crusher]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/GenLegWaspinator/waspinator.htm More information on ''Generations'' Legends Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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[[File:TTGenerationsTG28StarscreamWaspinator.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|No additional yellow and black paint operations? SHAME ON YOU, TakaraTomy!]]
*'''Megatron & Starscream''' (Multi-pack, [[December 28|12-28]]-2013)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG-28'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 null ray cannons

:The [[TakaraTomy]] release of Legends Class Waspinator is redecoed in darker shades of green and features silver eyes in robot mode instead of blue. He and Starscream were only available in a two-pack with [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MegatronStarscream2pack|Megatron]] and [[Chop Shop (G1)#MegatronStarscream2pack|Chop Shop]].
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[[File:Generations waspy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Wazzpinator and [[Fandom]] happy at last!"]]
*'''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, 2013)
**''Series / Number'': '''02 / #008'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG-30'''
**''Accessories:'' stinger/gun

:Waspinator is a brand-new Deluxe Class sculpt that is proof that there is indeed a God, and that He loves fans of ''Beast Wars''. His design is based on his classic appearance in the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, but he can pass for his appearance in IDW's ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' comics if you want! His [[gimmick]] is that pressing a button on his back makes his wings beat.

:Due to the use of standardized 5mm peg holes for his hands, Waspinator is capable of wielding the smaller version of himself that came in the Legends Class two-pack with Starscream in weapon mode.

:The version released in the United States comes with a reprint of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Homecoming (IDW)|issue 19]] sporting an [[:File:RID19 cvrHAS.jpg|exclusive cover]]. The versions released in Canada and Latin America come without the comic. The Japanese release of Waspinator is cast in different colors, replacing the two brighter shades of green with a dark metallic green, and features metallic gold paint instead of yellow.

:Multiple reports indicate that the thin plastic parts used for the hinge joints required for the transformation of his shoulders have a tendency to develop cracks very quickly, sometimes straight out of the packaging. Thus far, there have been no reports of actual breakage, though.

:Oddly, the instructions (in the Hasbro release at least) fail to mention separating the two halves of the beast mode head when creating the robot mode chest. Indeed, the line-art depicts the robot mode chest with the two pieces closed, completely obscuring the underlying 'breast bone' section.

:This mold was redecoed into [[BotCon 2015]]'s four [[Waruder]] mechs, [[Storm Rider]], [[Paralyzer]], [[Parasite]], and [[Mudfighter]], the latter of which is also prepurposed/[[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''Shattered Glass'' [[Waspinator (BWSG)|Waspinator]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm More information on ''Generations'' Deluxe Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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===Legends===
*'''Waspeeter''' (Deluxe, [[May 7|7-5]]-[[2016]])
**''ID number:'' '''LGEX'''
**''Accessories'': gun/stinger

:LGEX Waspeeter is a redeco of ''Generations'' Waspinator, exclusive to [[Transformers Fes2016]].
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==Merchandise==
[[File:Waspinatormutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Waspinator was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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[[File:Robotheroesrhinoxwaspinator.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Do we ''want'' to know what that is gushing out of his butt?]]
===''Robot Heroes''===
*'''Rhinox vs Waspinator''' ([[2008]])
:Waspinator was released in the second wave of [[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|''Universe'']] ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' packed with [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] as part of the "Beast Wars Series". An amalgam of toy and television show depictions, Waspinator has articulation at the neck and shoulders. He suspends himself in the air on a strong stream of fluid launching from his butt. (Okay, it's probably supposed to be a compressed air jet or something, but look at it. Eyuw.)

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Predacon/RHWaspinator/waspinator.htm More information on Robot Heroes Waspinator at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
*It is unclear just ''how'' Waspinator traveled from prehistoric Earth to future Cybertron in ''Beast Machines'', presumably under his own power. Perhaps if he somehow managed to reach escape velocity and traveled to Cybertron at sub-light speed, it would have taken long enough that he would have "caught up" to the main timeline. A concrete explanation would have been provided in the "[[Primeval Dawn]]" comics, with Waspinator (among many other Earth-bound characters) traveling back to Cybertron via transwarp portal. However, the bankruptcy of [[3H Productions|3H]] meant these final issues were never fully written, much less published, and all we really know about [[authorial intent|what they were going to say]] came from message board posts from author [[Dan Khanna]].{{fact}} Since the material was never completed or published, fans [[personal canon|may not necessarily accept them as storyline facts]] and could thus leave the mechanics of Waspinator's return an unsolved mystery. [[Bob Skir]] said in 2013 that it's a story he'd like to tell, joking Waspinator's journey must have been "worthy of Homer".<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DaZTNszyGU Moonbase 2 interview with Bob Skir], 1:27:39 to 1:30:09</ref>
*Ever wonder ''why'' Waspinator became the whipping boy of ''Beast Wars''? Early in the series, his buzzing, drawling method of speaking frustrated story editors [[Larry DiTillio]] and [[Bob Forward]], as they found it was taking up too much time out of the episodes. To get around this, but still meet with the requirement that he appear regularly, they took to blasting him to bits so that he wouldn't ''have'' to talk! Of course, this only wound up endearing him to the writers and the fans, and his frequent brushes with destruction became a running gag done for fun, rather than a script requirement.<ref>[http://www.infinitefrontiers.0catch.com/AutoAssembly/BobForward.htm Auto Assembly interview with Bob Forward]</ref>
*He only surfaces twice in ''Beast Machines'' because his character would clash with the darker tone.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DaZTNszyGU Moonbase 2 interview with Bob Skir], 1:32:41 to 1:33:01</ref>
*Waspinator was originally chosen by [[Hasbro]] to be one of the characters killed off for the second season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon to help make way for new characters ([[To sell toys|read: product]]). However, Forward and DiTillio convinced them to spare Waspinator on the grounds of his popularity with the online fan-base, so [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] and [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] took the plunge instead.
**His popularity was shown again when he won the [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] 2011 fan vote, beating ''three'' iconic 1984/5 characters ''and'' a [[Erector (G1)|guy with an entendre for a name]].
*Waspinator was originally slated to appear in the very first [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|''Beast Wars'' video game]], and even had a character model built. However, he was ultimately unused and only appeared in footage taken from the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon.
*Waspinator is the inspiration for [[Buzzer-Bot]] from ''[[Transformers: Go-Bots (franchise)|Go-Bots]]'' and [[Wasp]] from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''.
*According to Waspinator's profile in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'', he likes flying and nectar.
[[File:Nemesis1 Waspinator's tongue.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Waspinator's special tongue, there is no other like it!]]
*Waspinator has a yellow [[tongue]] in [[robot mode]].
*While Waspinator ''usually'' refers to other characters by nicknames, he is fairly consistent about calling Megatron and Optimus Primal by their real names. ([[Nemesis Part 1#Quotes|Fairly.]]) He also refers to Inferno by name at least twice, and Tarantulas at least once.
*Waspinator is the only member of the Beast Wars [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] lineup who was there from the beginning and remains alive for the entire course of both shows.
*He also has the honor of having the last line in ''Beast Wars'', and just barely misses the last line in ''Beast Machines''.
*Waspinator never once makes a proper landing while in his beast form.
*Technically, Waspinator's [[beast mode]] is that of a female wasp, given that males do not possess a stinger. He would probably find this objectionable, along with everything else in his life.
*In the Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'', Waspinator retained his verbal tic of making a buzzing noise while speaking, but it was rendered differently. Instead of stressing syllables of certain words to make a buzzing noise, he would end and punctuate sentences with ''bun'', which is the Japanese onomonopia equivalent for "buzz".

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Waspeeter''' (ワスピーター ''Wasupītā''),<ref>This particular [[romanization]] was first used on a Japanese ''Beast Wars'' [http://www18.tok2.com/home/jackhama/transformers/bwtcard_1/img/015.jpg trading card], and later reappeared in the opening sequence for the Japanese version of the PlayStation [[Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (PS)|''Beast Wars Transmetals'']] game.</ref> '''Waspinator''' (ワスピネーター ''Wasupinētā'')
*''Bulgarian:'' '''Osinator''' (Осинатор)
*''French:'' '''Bourdon''' (Canada, "Bumblebee"), '''Bizznator''' (Canada cartoon and Transmetal)<ref>It is unknown at this time if Waspinator was "Bizznator" in both Quebec and France, or if there were even two separate French dubs of ''Beast Wars'' to begin with. However, it ''is'' definitely known that only Canada got packaging with actual French names on it.</ref>
*''Italian:'' '''Punginator''' ("Stinginator")
*''Korean:'' '''Waspinato''' (와스피나토 ''Waseupinato'', 와스피네이토 ''Waseupineito'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Hú-fōng''' (Taiwan, 胡蜂, "Wasp"), '''Ts'āng-yīng''' (Taiwan, 蒼蠅, "Fly"), '''Huáng Fēng''' (China, 黄蜂, "Wasp")
*''Polish:'' '''Osator''' ("Wasp-tor")
*''Russian:'' '''Ospinator''' (Оспинатор, "Waspinator")
*''Spanish:'' '''Waspinator''' (Spain), '''Avispanator''' (America, "Wasp-nator"), '''Avispón''' (toy, "Hornet")

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Spike Witwicky (G1)

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:''Spike [[Witwicky]] is an [[Autobot]]-allied [[human]] and [[Autobot]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Spikewitwickyg1.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Wait till you see my sweet future jumpsuit!]]
'''Spike Witwicky''' is the oldest (and sometimes only) son of [[Sparkplug Witwicky]].
Spike, like most Witwickys, has a tendency to form close bonds to the Autobots and become one of their main human allies. 'Cause let's face it, there are advantages when your best friend is [[Bumblebee (G1)|a car]].

Sometimes his real name is '''Stevie'''.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Show Hayami]] (Japanese, ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform''), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese, ''The Movie'', ''Transformers 2010''), [[Kōji Ochiai]] (Japanese, ''The Rebirth'')|[[Wolfgang Mascher]] (German; Generation 1), [[Dirk Meyer]] (German; ''Generation 2''), [[Crock Krumbiegel]] (German; ''The Movie''), [[Olivier Destrez]] then [[François Leccia]] (French), [[Nada Blam]] (Serbian), [[Staffan Hallerstam]] (Swedish; Generation 1), [[Dick Eriksson]] (Swedish; Generation 2)}}

[[File:Mtmte2 witiwickys saved.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|This isn't what they meant by "bodyboarding", Prime...]]
In [[1984]], the fourteen-year-old Spike was working on an oil rig with his father [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] when his life was turned upside-down by the arrival of the [[Decepticon]]s. The evil robots began attacking the rig and terrorizing the workers; when Spike tried vainly to save his father from the clutches of [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], he was swatted away by the Decepticon and fell in the ocean. Sparkplug broke free from Rumble's grip a second later and leapt in after him, and as the two Witwickys floated in the brine, the [[Autobot]]s arrived to stop the Decepticons' evildoing. To cover the villains' escape, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] collapsed the oil rig, imprisoning Spike and Sparkplug beneath a metal lattice with fire creeping towards them. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} Autobot leader [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] freed the two humans and brought them to safety, and in reciprocation, Spike and his father offered to serve as the Autobots' guides to [[Earth]] and allies in the fight against the Decepticons.

[[File:Mtmte2 spike finds soundwave.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|I don't see anyone else around. I guess this must be mine. Result!]]
While returning to the Autobots' base after writing the latest entry in [[Spike's diary|his journal]], Spike stumbled across a sweet discarded cassette player, which he brought back to the base with him. After quizzing [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] on the Autobots' various special abilities, Spike took Hound up on his offer for a joyride through the desert, leaving the tape player behind. When he returned, however, he was horrified to discover that the device had been the Decepticon [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] in disguise, and that he had downloaded much secret information from [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]]. Using that information, the Decepticons soon struck [[Sherman Dam]], and when the Autobots tried to stop them, Hound was buried under a pile of rocks, deep in the river, by Rumble. Spike dived in to save him, but once he had done so, he then had to be saved by Hound, who gave him CPR.

[[File:Mtmte2 witwickys and trailbreaker.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|They never miss the game]]
While out scanning for Decepticon transmissions with Trailbreaker, Spike and his father learned that Megatron was planning to hit the [[ruby crystal mines of Burma]], and the Autobots mobilized to confront them. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} Soon after, when the Autobots learned that the Decepticons were poised to return to Cybertron, Spike and Sparkplug volunteered to stop them before they could depart aboard [[Victory (G1)|their space cruiser]]. During the subsequent battle, Spike threw a rock that dislodged [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s [[null-ray]]. Eventually, the threat of the Decepticons was believed ended when their space cruiser crashed in the ocean. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

[[File:Transporttooblivion captive spike.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|All we need is [[Chewbacca|Chewie]] and we'll be all set!]]
Several months later, the Decepticons resurfaced with a plan to create an intergalactic transportation system known as a "[[space bridge]]". Spike was chilling with [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] when the villains struck a solar power plant, knocking out power across the city. When Optimus Prime charged [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] with spying on the Decepticons to learn their plan, Spike requested that he be allowed to accompany the small Autobot, beginning a long-standing friendship between the two. Unfortunately, this first mission together did not go very well, as Spike was captured by the Decepticons and almost used as a guinea pig for the first test run of the space bridge, but was thankfully saved at the last second by Optimus Prime and Bumblebee. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion}}

Spike's friend [[Chip Chase]] brought Spike and Bumblebee on a visit to the laboratory of [[Alcazar|Doctor Alcazar]], with whom he was working on an [[antimatter]] formula. [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] attacked the trio as they were leaving the lab, and although they were able to escape, the Decepticons returned to capture Chip in his home. Spike, Bumblebee, Hound and Mirage teamed up to rescue Chip, but the Decepticons were still able to acquire the antimatter formula. In the battle that resulted, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] was wielding the antimatter-powered Megatron when Spike bravely attacked his leg with a pneumatic drill. Skywarp seized the boy, but this gave Chip the distraction he needed to plant an override device on the Decepticon's leg, allowing [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] to control Skywarp's motor relays remotely, tipping the scales of the battle in the Autobots' favor. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

[[File:Divideandconquer spike grabs gun.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2]]
Spike was helping Optimus Prime search for the newest location of the Decepticons' space bridge when a distress call from Chip summoned them to a munitions plant under Decepticon attack. Prime was fatally wounded in the subsequent battle, forcing Chip and a team of Autobots to head to Cybertron to recover a replacement [[cosmitron]] for his systems. In their absence, the Decepticons attacked Autobot Headquarters, and the leaderless Autobots could not muster the courage to fight. Claiming that this was not what Prime would have wanted, Spike seized Jazz's pistol and announced that he would fight the battle himself if he had to, his bravery galvanizing the other Autobots into action. During the fight, the Cybertron team returned with the cosmitron, restoring Prime, who defeated Megatron and won the day. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

A freak snowstorm in the desert around Autobot Headquarters gave Spike cause for celebration, as he introduced the Autobots to the wonders of a snowball fight. When the unnatural weather was discovered to be the product of a Decepticon plot at the North Pole, Spike and his father headed to the Arctic Circle with the Autobots. There, the two humans were captured by the Decepticons' newest recruit [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], but they could see that his heart wasn't in the evil robots' scheme, and he soon switched sides. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

[[File:Fireonthemountain spike and luisa.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|It's the pink interior that makes Spike such a [[Ladiesman217|Ladiesman]].]]
When the Autobots discovered a cavern full of [[dinosaur (dinosaur)|dinosaur]] bones behind their Headquarters, Spike educated them on the ancient reptiles, and helped design the robotic "[[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]" that Optimus Prime decided to have created based on Spike's stories. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}} Later, he and Bumblebee headed to [[South America]] to investigate a Decepticon scheme in Peru, where he got cosy with a native girl named [[Luisa]] after he saved her life. Luisa led them to the temple the Decepticons were using as a base, where Spike discovered and repaired the captive Skyfire. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain (episode)|Fire on the Mountain}}

Soon after, he and Chip helped the Autobots create two more Dinobots, {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}} Spike faced his greatest challenge yet when he saw his father abducted by the Decepticons. The Autobots quickly enacted a rescue plan, but Spike soon realized that his father was not in his right mind when he discovered that he was responsible for sabotaging Teletraan I and the Autobots' weapons. In truth, a [[hypno-chip]] had transformed Sparkplug into a mind-controlled Decepticon slave! {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}}

[[File:Tud hypnochipped sparkplug.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|So this is where he learned the excellent parenting skills he demonstrates in Headmasters]]
Concurrently, the Decepticons activated a massive space bridge that teleported the entire planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] into Earth's orbit, causing massive natural disasters that Spike and the Autobots were also forced to contend with. Discovering that his father had been taken to Cybertron, Spike insisted that Optimus Prime allow him and a team of Autobots to go to the planet and find him. Navigating traps and ventilation shafts, Spike, Bumblebee and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] made their way to [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Cybertron)|Decepticon Headquarters]], where Spike confronted his father in hopes of bringing him to his senses. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} Unfortunately, Sparkplug instead triggered an alarm that brought the Decepticons running, forcing Spike and the Autobots to flee and take refuge in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s old laboratory. There, Wheeljack analyzed a computer disk stolen from Decepticon Headquarters by Bumblebee and created a device to undo the hypno-chips' effects. Spike served as bait to lure the Decepticons and Sparkplug out so that the device could be tested, and although he was nearly shot by his brainwashed father, Wheeljack's counter-weapon succeeded, freeing Sparkplug from Decepticon control. The Autobots and Witwickys headed back to Earth, where Spike hit on the idea to blow up the Decepticons' stockpile of [[energon cube]]s in order to blast Cybertron out of Earth orbit. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}}

[[File:AutobotSpike-AutobotXTabled.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Well, you can call him "Junkbot"!]]
Spike traveled with the Autobots to [[Bali]] to battle the newest Decepticons, the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], and was the one who came up with the idea to use Trailbreaker's forcefield to block [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]'s clone beams. {{storylink|A Plague of Insecticons}} Soon after, Spike was among the spectators of a mighty one-on-one battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron, which ended with Prime's defeat. When Megatron was revealed to have cheated by combining all the powers of the Decepticons together, the Autobots overturned the result of the fight and sent the Decepticons tumbling into a river of lava. Spike wondered if this was truly the end of the Transformers' war, but Optimus Prime was uncertain. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

[[File:Autobotspike spike and bee.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2]]
When Spike was grievously injured by Megatron in a Decepticon attack, the Autobots had to figure out a way to remove his mind from his body so that life-saving surgery could be performed. The process was carried out using [[Autobot X (G1)|Autobot X]], a [[Frankenstein's monster|Frankenstein]]-like robot created by Sparkplug from various Autobot spare parts, but the unstable robot body clouded Spike's mind. He began rampaging, and eventually fled Autobot Headquarters, at which point he was approached by Megatron, who manipulated him into allying with the Decepticons against his friends. Only after nearly killing his father did Spike come to his senses, and turned on the Decepticons, after which his mind was subsequently transferred back into his body. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}}

Spike was instrumental in saving [[New York City]] from Decepticon domination when he and Bumblebee infiltrated Megatron's command post and goaded him into destroying his own weapons control console, {{storylink|City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel}} after which he had to fight against his friends when the Autobots fell under the influence of a Decepticon [[personality destabilizer device]]. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots (episode)|Attack of the Autobots}}

[[File:Arcade Hahaha.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Bumblebee comforts Carly after a sudden tiff]]
While on a run to pick up a [[polarizer]] for Wheeljack's new [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer|Immobilizer]] invention, Spike and Bumblebee stopped off at the [[Robots Video Arcade]], where Spike was approached by an older girl named [[Carly]]. When it turned out that all she wanted was to be introduced to Bumblebee, however, Spike excused himself and his Autobot buddy, and they had an eventful journey back to the base, enduring a policeman who questioned Spike's driving age and a surprise attack by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]. Carly trailed them back, and then helped them out in their mission to reclaim the stolen Immobilizer from the Decepticons. At the adventure's end, Spike invited Carly out for a chocolate [[soft drink|soda]], beginning a romance between the two teens. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}

When Spike and Chip came up with the idea of the Autobots racing for charity, they could never have predicted that the Decepticons would use it as an opportunity to trap the heroic robots in their [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]s with their new [[Transfixatron]]. Wheeljack and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] managed to escape the paralyzing device's influence and created a [[Anti-transfixation grenade|grenade]] to undo its effects, and Chip and Spike outran Soundwave and his cassettes to detonate it in the Autobots' midst and save them. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

[[File:Spike SemiNude.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|We have hereby filled our beefcake quota for this Wiki. Move along.]]
After a lesson in how to play football, Spike went with a team of Autobots to investigate the underwater city of [[Sub-Atlantica]], and told them of the legend of [[Atlantis]] that was potentially inspired by it. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}} Later, while investigating a Decepticon oil pumping platform, Spike was captured alongside Skyfire and Hound, but was able to effect their release by incapacitating their Decepticon guards with an electro-magnet. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}} Later still, Spike told the Autobots about ninjas when he attended the unveiling of [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]]. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

When a mysterious second [[Optimus Prime clone|Optimus Prime]] appeared while the Autobots were investigating a crevice of [[korlonium crystal]]s, Spike proposed a series of tests to determine which was the real one. The tests failed, but the impostor Prime was revealed when he displayed no concern for Spike after the boy was captured by Megatron. His deception revealed, Megatron hurled Spike from his [[Incredibly tall rocket|rocket base]] to cover his retreat, but he was safely rescued by [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]]. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} Soon after, Spike joined the Autobots in battling the super-powered Insecticons, and bravely climbed Shrapnel's body to deliver by hand the antidote that stopped his over-charged frame from exploding. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}}

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The Autobots' discovery of a mysterious prehistoric island where dinosaurs still lived was a dream come true for Spike, and he christened the lost world "[[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]" when Powerglide and the Dinobots took him there. After some perilous encounters with the local wildlife, however, Spike decided he would limit his dinosaur experiences to reading about them in [[Ere Cenozoique Periode Tertiaire|books]]. Powerglide returned Spike home, but while he and Bumblebee headed to the library, the Decepticons arrived on Dinobot Island and began draining its many sources of energy. This caused a series of time warps to open all over the world, including one that disgorged barbarians and woolly [[mammoth]]s right into Spike and Bumblebee's path! The time-tossed creatures collapsed a building on top of the duo, {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} but Bumblebee shielded Spike with his body, and the other Autobots soon arrived to dig them out and send the unwelcome visitors back through the time warp. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}} A little later, Spike taught Optimus Prime how to play [[basketball]]. {{storylink|The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders}}

[[File:Masterplan spike cornered.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|"I learned in history that [[Mark Twain]] fought you with one of these too!"]]
Spike believed it was "about time" when the mayor of [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]] decided to honor the Autobots with a holiday dedicated to them, but he was horrified when mayoral rival [[Shawn Berger]] interrupted the ceremony with a tape given to him by Megatron that framed the Autobots for energy theft. Naturally, Spike, his father and Chip were not fooled by the bogus footage, but unfortunately, they were about the only humans who stood by the Autobots. When the heroic robots went to trial, Spike left in the middle of the proceedings to try and locate some evidence to prove their innocence. He was successful, discovering more footage on the tape that revealed the "Autobots" on display as disguised Decepticons, but was then confronted by Ravage. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} Escaping, Spike presented his evidence to the mayor, but it came too late: the Autobots had already been exiled from Earth, and the world was now celebrating the Decepticons. Megatron did not allow his pantomime to last long, however, announcing in a press conference his dominion over Central City. Spike was captured and put to work in a slave camp along with the rest of the city's population, but thankfully, before long, the Autobots returned to Earth to clear their names and rout the Decepticons. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

[[File:Dotd spike carly swoop.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2| "Now that's some pre-[[Pat Lee|Lee]] '[[Dull surprise]]' right there!"]]
Spike and Carly were enjoying themselves at an [[Fun A Rama Park|amusement park]] with Bumblebee, but the merriment had to come to an end so they could go to the airport and pick up Sparkplug. The airfield became a battlefield, however, when a [[Hangar|Decepticon base was discovered in a nearby hangar]] and the Dinobots were ordered in to attack. Badly damaged by the fight, the Dinobots decided to finally secede from the Autobots, but this could not have come at a worse time: no sooner had they left than the Autobots began to malfunction due to [[cybertonium]] deterioration. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} Spike and Carly volunteered to go to Cybertron to recover a fresh supply, but as soon as they had arrived, they fell afoul of Shockwave, and were forced to flee into the tiny tunnels honeycombing the planet. Heading for Wheeljack's lab, Spike and Carly encountered [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], who had come to Cybertron with the other Dinobots, but had been the only member of the team to avoid capture. With Swoop to help them, Spike and Carly navigated the ancient traps in the bowels of the planet, and even found a historical video records room that relayed for them the history of the Transformers' war. While watching the video, they were ambushed by Shockwave's [[Sentinel (G1)|sentinels]] and taken to join the other Dinobots in the cybertonium pits. The Dinobots had had their memory circuits bypassed to ensure their compliance, but Carly soon put their systems right, and they worked with the two humans to escape the pits, defeat their captors and return to Earth with enough cybertonium to repair all the Autobots. For their bravery, Spike and Carly were appointed [[Honorary Autobot]]s. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

[[File:Spike gets kissed.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|Spike valiantly resists the princess' advances]]
Spike and Carly got to travel to the [[moon (moon)|moon]] when the Decepticons threatened the world with the [[Voltronic Galaxer]], {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} after which Spike went on an even greater journey: into the past! Along with [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], Spike followed a group of Decepticons through a relic called the [[Dragon Mound]], which transported them to 543 AD. There, Spike took an immediate liking to [[Nimue]], the daughter of a local nobleman, and tried to single-handedly rescue her when she was kidnapped by the Decepticons and their local ally, Sir [[Wigend of Blackthorne]]. Unfortunately, by the time Spike had scaled the tower Nimue was being held in (which was in and of itself a challenge thanks to the heavy suit of armor Hoist had made for him), she and Wigend had fallen in love and become engaged! Spike subsequently returned to the present with the Transformers, where we can only assume he didn't tell Carly about the hot medieval chick. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}

When several Autobots and Decepticons were lost in a space bridge accident, Spike was among those who huddled around Teletraan I as Chip tried to use the computer to locate them. {{storylink|Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play}} After the lost Transformers returned, Spike, Bumblebee and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] were sent to the planet [[Floron III]] to recover [[robotic insecticide]] that would help deal with the threat of the Insecticons. Unfortunately, they also inadvertently brought back one of the planet's native lifeforms, the [[Morphobot]]s. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}

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Spike was washed away in a flash flood caused by [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] when they started fighting for Decepticon leadership, but was rescued by Optimus Prime and carried to safety by Powerglide. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}} Later, Spike was working in his father's automotive garage when Powerglide dropped in with [[Astoria Carlton-Ritz]], a flighty heiress he had rescued from the Decepticons. Spike began hitting on Astoria when they were left alone, but when he found that all she wanted to talk about was Powerglide, he grumpily returned to his work...at which point all his equipment started malfunctioning thanks to Astoria's tendency to jinx up machinery around her. We bet Spike didn't tell Carly about her, either. {{storylink|The Girl Who Loved Powerglide}}

[[File:Hoisthollywoodflesheatinglava.jpg|left|thumb|From this angle, it looks like they're STANDING on the lava...|upright=1.2]]
When Hoist, Spike and Carly accidentally stumbled into the middle of a movie shoot, the movie's [[Attack of the Alien Robots director|director]] decided to hire Hoist and some other Autobots on to star in his movie, and Spike and Carly were given free passes to the studio lot. While there, they discovered the Decepticons were also hiding out on the lot, searching for footage a film crew had accidentally taken of a secret cargo they were transporting. Spike and Carly were able to get hold of the negative the Decepticons were looking for, and fled (with some difficulty) through the myriad movie sets decorating the lot. Eventually, the Decepticons were tricked into believing the negative was destroyed when Hoist pretended to be evil and dropped it, Spike and Carly in a vat of lava... but of course, it was only movie magic. {{storylink|Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood}}

Spike, Carly and Sparkplug were in the audience when [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] received the [[National Scientific Achievement]] award for his newest invention, [[Corrostop]]. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} Later, when the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] tried to plunge the Earth into the sun using the space bridge, Spike helped the Autobots find the missing space bridge control panel, and convinced Megatron to join forces with them to stop the Combaticons' plan. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}} For his final recorded adventure in the 20th century, Spike aided the Autobots in apprehending the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], reacting with some distress to the sight of Optimus Prime playing "chicken" with [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

[[File:Spike ospit.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Oh, bother. How do you propose we solve our predicament at this moment?]]
Over the course of the next twenty years, Spike and Carly married and had a son named [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]]. Spike was even able to take a more active hand in the Transformers' battles, as he was given a transforming [[exosuit]]. In the course of these twenty years, the Decepticons finally conquered Cybertron, forcing the Autobots to relocate to their newly-built [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] on Earth, and to bases on two of Cybertron's moon. In the year 2005, the thirty-five-year-old Spike was stationed on [[Moonbase Two]] with Bumblebee when the Autobots decided to make their big push against the Decepticons, and he requested that [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] tell Daniel, on Earth, that he would be home soon.

[[File:Tftm spike acid drop.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.55|And now he doesn't feel like swearing]]
Spike could never have predicted what would happen next. As he and Bumblebee watched, the monstrous planet [[Unicron]] appeared from the depths of space and consumed Moonbase One, with Moonbase Two next on the menu. Acting quickly, Spike and Bumblebee set a stockpile of explosives to blow up the moon right in Unicron's mouth as they escaped on a shuttlecraft. When the smoke cleared, however, they found that Unicron was completely uninjured, and a frustrated Spike expressed his discontent in a distinctly PG manner. Their craft was then caught in the suction from Unicron's mouth, and they were pulled in to the behemoth's digestive system, where they hung from a conveyor, waiting to be dropped into an acid pit. Thankfully, they were saved from his messy fate by Daniel, wearing an older version of Spike's exosuit, who shot the pit cover down just as they were dropped. Spike and his son escaped Unicron's body along with the other Autobots who had entered it, as the chaos-bringer exploded thanks to the power of the Autobot [[Matrix of Leadership]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
{{note|Spike Witwicky’s involvement in these events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the comic mini-series “[[Transformers: The Animated Movie]]” and the storybook “[[Transformers the Movie (Ladybird adaptation)|Transformers the Movie]]."}}

Under their new leader, [[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], the Autobots subsequently forced the Decepticons off Cybertron and retook the planet. With Cybertron established as a force for good in the universe once more, Spike was appointed Earth's official ambassador to the planet. {{storylink|Madman's Paradise}}

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While attending the first [[Galactic Olympics]], Spike, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] were captured by a strike team of [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] that attacked the event. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} They were taken to the planet [[Quintessa]], where the native [[Quintesson]]s questioned them, and then intended to put them to death. The trio tried rushing the aliens and taking [[Deliberata|one of their number]] captive, but the other Quintessons simply sentenced their comrade to death along with them, and they were all dropped into the Sharkticon pit together. At the last moment, a team of Autobots arrive to pluck them from the jaws of death, but the Quintessons then detonated a [[core bomb]] that blew up their planet and sent the Autobots and Spike hurtling through space. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2}} They eventually landed on the planet [[Goo 8739B]], where they came under attack from the Decepticons, now allied with the Quintessons, {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} but they were soon rescued by the [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} They returned to Cybertron, but the Decepticons and Quintessons pursued them, and ultimately, the aliens betrayed their allies when they activated a [[large switch]] that shut down Transformers all across the galaxy. Unfortunately for them, the Quintessons had not reckoned with Spike, who used the paralyzed Rodimus Prime's gun to destroy the switch, undoing its effects. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

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In 2006, while fleeing from a Decepticon attack, Spike, Daniel and a team of Autobots took refuge in the colossal [[Autobot Mausoleum|mausoleum]] the Autobots had built to hold the bodies of their fallen warriors. There, they discovered that Optimus Prime was apparently not dead after all, as he appeared to see the Decepticons off. Rodimus quickly returned the Matrix to his old leader, at which point Optimus was revealed to simply be a re-animated Quintesson pawn who activated the mausoleum's self-destruct sequence and left Spike and the others to die in the mausoleum. Luckily, they were able to hastily construct an improvised craft to get themselves to safety. {{storylink|Dark Awakening (episode)|Dark Awakening}}

Despite preparations for the first major peace conference on Cybertron taking up most of his time, Spike was still able to organize a surprise party for Daniel's birthday. This gave Daniel the idea to have a party for Ultra Magnus, however, and he proceeded to get in a lot of trouble trying to find out the Autobot's birthday. Once Daniel had been rescued from the Decepticons' clutches, Spike decided that they would just appoint that day as Ultra Magnus's birthday. {{storylink|Surprise Party}} Later, he welcomed the ambassador from [[Odessix]], [[Ynara]], to Cybertron, and had to make a few apologies for the bored Daniel's brusque behavior. Daniel subsequently went missing (in actuality, he was transported to the other-dimensional world of [[Menonia]]), but Carly told Spike to stay at the party while she and [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] went looking. {{storylink|Madman's Paradise}}

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When Daniel began suffering nightmares, Spike and Carly called on Rodimus Prime to help ease the boy's troubles. {{storylink|Nightmare Planet}} A little later, Spike accompanied Kup on a security inspection of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], during which Starscream's ghost and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] tried to steal the giant Autobot's eyes. Spike and Bumblebee teamed up to investigate, and caught the villains in the act. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (episode)|Ghost in the Machine}} Spike also helped Rodimus Prime moderate peace talks between the planets [[Xetaxxis]] and [[Lanarq]], {{storylink|The Quintesson Journal}} after which he and Daniel helped the Autobots by posing as human repairmen to sneak inside [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and steal his [[Transformation cog|transforming cog]]. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

[[File:Rebirth 1 Autobot heads.JPG|left|thumb|upright=1.2|Guess which one the marble is under?]]
In 2007, Spike was on Cybertron when the Decepticons launched a massive attack on the planet with the intention of taking control of the legendary [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]]. Together with a team of Autobots, Spike pursued Scourge deep into the planet, where a blast of energy from the Plasma Energy Chamber struck their craft and overloaded its engines, sending them careening across the galaxy, wildly out of control. They eventually crashed on the planet [[Nebulos]], where they ran afoul of a cell of rebel Nebulans who were fighting against the [[Hive (G1)|Hive]], the tyrannical rulers of their planet, and mistook the Autobots for their robot servants. Spike tried to talk the Nebulans out of destroying the captured Autobots, but it took the arrival of the Decepticons for the Nebulans to risk releasing their prisoners to help them fight back. During the battle, several Autobots were captured, forcing the Autobots and Nebulans to take a drastic step: to fight back against the Decepticons and the Hive, four Nebulans and four Autobots volunteered to undergo a process developed by [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] that would merge them together into [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} Spike carried out the biotechnological modifications, following Brainstorm's design, and in addition to the Nebulans, also bonded Daniel to [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] at her request in order to save his life. The Decepticons subsequently emulated the Autobots' Headmaster process with members of the Hive, and also modified the process to create [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]]. The Autobots didn't rest on their laurels, and Spike again helped modify six of the rebel sharpshooters to become Autobot Targetmasters themselves. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}}

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To battle against [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], the gigantic robot created by Hive leader Lord [[Zarak (G1)|Zarak]] from the Hive's own subterranean city, Spike had the pacifistic Autobot [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] lead him to the Hive's old, abandoned surface city, which he had previously discovered while wandering the planet. There, Spike used the city's old machines to reconstruct it, Cerebros and himself, bonding them all together into the mighty [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. Spike flew his new creation to Cybertron (which the Decepticons have moved into the vicinity of Earth with a giant rocket engine in his absence), where he battled and defeated Scorponok and rescued Daniel and the captive Autobots within the giant robot's city banks. The Decepticons, however, had already opened the Plasma Energy Chamber, which threatened to drive the [[Sun]] nova and destroy Earth, Cybertron and the entire [[Solar System]]. As they were organic and unaffected by the chamber's energy, Spike and the Nebulons were able to act quickly to save the planet by shutting the chamber down and reversing the Decepticons' rocket to draw off the excess solar energy. This energy was funnelled into [[Vector Sigma]], revitalizing Cybertron and bringing about a new [[Golden Age]]. Despite all of this, Cerebros was insistent that Spike deactivate him so that he would never have to fight again...but quickly changed his tune when Spike transformed back into his head so that he could see the beauty of the restored planet. Optimus Prime subsequently appointed Cerebros as guardian of Nebulos, where he and the other Autobot Headmasters would root out and destroy the lingering influence of the Hive, after which Cerebros would live on the planet as its guardian. What this meant for Spike, however, was never revealed. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{note|The events of the American animated series occur in Japanese continuity as noted above, except that the events of Season 3, which took place in 2006 in America, were moved back to 2010, and the events of "The Rebirth" do not occur. Japanese animated continuity inserts several additional stories into the timeline, as detailed below.}}

=====Scramble City: Mobilization=====
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In the late 1980s, the Autobots began work on a mobile battle fortress dubbed "[[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]]", and began construction of the massive structure in a subterranean cavern. Spike helped the Autobots work on the project along with [[Carly]], [[Sparkplug Witwicky|his father]] and [[Chip Chase|Chip]], and while welding a section of machinery, he was approached by Bumblebee with the prospect of taking a quick break from the labor. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}
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=====''The Great Transformer War''=====
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After the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] brainwashed [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] into becoming a [[Decepticon]] with [[Cohesive Control Liquid]], Spike donned a modified [[exosuit]] and lasergun to save his Autobot friends. Daniel initially asked to go, but Spike forbid him, as the mission was too dangerous. Dodging Computron's laserfire, Spike burned the control liquid off with his lasergun, freeing Computron from the Terrorcons's hold. Computron immediately defeated the Decepticons and sent them fleeing. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 2|The Great Transformer War #2}}
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=====Controverse=====
Spike Witwicky attended the trial of [[Primacron]] by the Galactic Courts on behalf of Earth. After hearing the deliberations would be overseen by a [[Quintesson]], Spike and the Autobots were suspicious of the proceedings, and prepared a contingency plan. When it appeared the Quintessons planned to secretly kidnap and harvest Primacron's brain, the Autobots sprung into action while Spike coordinated the evacuation of the other delegates and onlookers. {{storylink|Controverse}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese)}}
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In the year that followed the resurrection of Optimus Prime, Spike spent most of his time on Cybertron, actively working as a liaison between the Autobots and humanity to develop new sources of energy. In 2011, Spike was enjoying a cup of tea with Carly in [[Great Dome|Autobot Base]] on Cybertron when the Decepticons suddenly launched a massive offensive against the planet, backed up with the added power of their new Headmaster warriors. Spike quickly contacted Optimus Prime at the Autobots' secondary command post on the planet [[Athenia]], and then withdrew to the safety of Athenia himself once reinforcements arrived on Cybertron. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Optimus Prime himself was among the Autobots who went to Cybertron, intending to stabilize Vector Sigma, which had begun to run out of control. Spike had researched the computer and claimed there was no way to stop it without the Matrix, which was precisely what Prime didn't have. Daniel was concerned for Prime, but Spike assured him he would be fine. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} He wasn't, though. He died. Again. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

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When Spike next appeared, he had sustained some serious injuries through unexplained means. Although he was on the mend, it meant he was not fit for a mission that required a human agent: the disabling of a [[Metamorphose|metal-warping meteor]] that the Decepticons had set on collision course with Athenia. Daniel volunteered to go in his place, and Spike, impressed with his bravery, allowed it. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}}

After Cybertron was destroyed thanks to the machinations of Decepticon Headmaster leader [[Scorponok (G1)#Japanese cartoon continuity|Scorponok]], Spike moved his family and his research to Athenia. Soon after this, Spike supervised the launch of the [[Sol 1]] satellite, a solar energy satellite built by both humans and Transformers that served as a symbol of unity between their two planets. Unfortunately, the Decepticons stole it. {{storylink|The Shadow Emperor, Scorponok}} Later, Spike went with the Autobots to help evacuate the residents of a South American village that was threatened by a volcanic eruption, {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}} and was menaced on Athenia by [[buridanka|an ambulatory monster-plant]] from [[Darhos]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

[[File:Hm14 mars survey.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"Damn it, IKEA!"]]
While conducting a geographic survey on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] with a view to terraforming the planet, Spike, Daniel, [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] and the [[Trainbot]]s discovered a Decepticon plot to destroy the red planet with plasma energy bombs. The Autobot Headmasters were called in while Spike, Daniel and Wheelie returned to Athenia, {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! Maximus Is in Danger}} but alas, the four young heroes were not able to stop Mars from being blown up. {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears}} Spike subsequently scanned the remains of the planet with Arcee and [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], and they concluded that the gravimetric balance of the solar system had been badly damaged. Spike feared that the destruction of another planet by the Decepticons would utterly destroy the whole system. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}

When the Autobots received an distress signal from the planet [[Sandra (planet)|Sandra]] in a parallel dimension, which was running critically low on energy, Spike was unsure whether or not they should risk giving up any of their own carefully-managed energy supply. He was eventually convinced that it was the right way to proceed, and even allowed Daniel and Wheelie to travel to Sandra with him and the Headmasters on the basis that it would be a good experience for them. Spike got very philosophical once they were on Sandra, remarking that all resources tend to run out eventually, and lamenting that Earth could face the same fate as Sandra if they weren't careful. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

[[File:Hm18 negotiating with galvatron.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|We aren't negotiating in good faith? We went through a lot of trouble to make a wicker chair that would support your weight.]]
His fears for the safety of the universe growing since the destruction of Mars, Spike stunned the Autobots when he announced his intention to negotiate with Galvatron the possibility of the Autobots and Decepticons allying to create a joint energy development programme. Even more surprising was that Galvatron ''agreed'', on the condition that Spike bring Carly and Daniel with him, that the Decepticons might hold them hostage so that the negotiations could be held in "good faith". Negotiations proceeded badly, with Galvatron accusing Spike of arguing from a non-neutral position, given that he lived with the Autobots on Athenia, instead of his native Earth. Galvatron instructed Spike to leave his "most precious thing" on Earth to prove his neutrality: his son, Daniel! Daniel reluctantly agreed to stay on Earth, and Carly decided to stay with him, meaning that Spike would be separated from his whole family in the pursuit of peace. As it turned out, however, Spike wasn't actually negotiating with Galvatron at all: a transmission from [[Chaar]] by the Autobot spy [[Punch (G1)|Punch]] revealed that the real Galvatron was still there, and that Spike was conversing with a disguised [[Sixshot]]! The Decepticons were using the peace talks as a cover to embark on an interplanetary energy quest, and the Autobots were left in the dust as a consequence. As the Autobots prepared to follow the villains, Daniel insisted that he be allowed to go to defend his family honor, and Spike and Carly were silently proud of their determined son. {{storylink|Daniel Faces His Biggest Crisis Ever!!}}

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The Autobots' return to Earth some time later heralded a great loss, as Ultra Magnus soon died in battle with Sixshot, and Spike wept at his funeral. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Dies!!}} Decepticon attacks continued with increased ferocity around the globe, angering Spike, {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} but he did not let these tragedies deter him from his work. While attending a summit on Earth to discuss using the planet's volcanoes for power, he realized that the Decepticons' recent activities had been focused on the [[Pacific Ring of Fire]]. When he returned to Autobot City to present his findings, however, the city came under attack by Trypticon and Sixshot, and Spike was wounded by a stray laser blast. With all of the Headmasters' technology unable to remove a large chunk of shrapnel embedded in one of his arteries, Spike told Daniel to remain strong even in the face of his death, and to take his place as Earth's envoy to the Autobots. Luckily, this wasn't necessary: in a drastic step that used up all of his energy, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] used his telekinetic powers to dissolve the shrapnel and save Spike's life. {{storylink|I Risk My Life for Earth}}

In a major subsequent battle, the Autobots were able to force the Decepticons to withdraw from Earth, seemingly for good. Fortress appointed Spike head of the clean-up operation to remove all traces of the villains' memory from Earth, and Spike started by organizing an Autobot wrecking crew to destroy the Decepticons' desert Earth headquarters. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}} News soon reached the Autobots on Earth that the Decepticons had returned to the Headmasters' home planet, [[Master (planet)|Master]], and Daniel petitioned Spike to be allowed to accompany the Headmasters there. Carly was unwilling to let him go, but Spike decided it'd be good for his character, and asked Fortress to let Daniel go with them. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 2)}} Spike watched as the worried Carly cooked up some [[space ration]]s for Daniel to take with him. {{storylink|My Friend Sixshot!}}

[[File:Hm35 witwickys goodbye.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.2|How!]]
Unfortunately for the Earth, the Decepticons would eventually return, just as Earth's restoration programme was entering a critical phase. With Fortress and the other Headmasters not yet back from Master, Spike was left to co-ordinate the Autobot counter-attack to the Decepticons' renewed offensive, and headed to Santiago, [[Chile]] with Carly to investigate the emergence of a strange metal tower there. On the way, his plane was forced to make an emergency landing in the Andes, where Carly and several other passengers fell into a crevasse. Simultaneously, Fortress's team returned to Earth, and Daniel immediately set out to help his parents. Spike attempted to descend into the crevice himself despite his injuries, and was surprised when Daniel stopped him and insisted that he rescue his mother personally. Daniel performed the task admirably, and Spike could see that his boy had grown into a man. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} When the message came in for the Autobots to gather for the final battle with the Decepticons, Spike told Daniel that he would look after Carly so that he could join his friends in the fight.

Following the Decepticons' ultimate defeat in a colossal battle royal at the North Pole, which saw the evil robots at last forced off Earth, the Autobots prepared to depart the planet as well. Spike, Carly and Daniel gathered to bid farewell to their long-time friends, and Spike was determined that the goodbye should be a happy one, since, while the Transformers were leaving, the peace they had brought to the planet was there to stay. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

=====''The Headmasters'' manga=====
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While traveling in the Battleship Maximus, Spike detected Decepticons approaching. He rallied the Headmasters, who defended the ship from sabotage. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 1|The Headmasters #1}}

After the Decepticons' defeat at the North Pole, but shortly before the Autobots' departure from Earth, Spike was out walking with Carly, Daniel, Wheelie and Chromedome when they were attacked by [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundblaster]]. [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] charged at Daniel, but Spike leapt into his path and was injured, driving Daniel furious. The youth leapt onto Slugfest and covered his eyes, tricking him into blasting [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] and freeing up Chromedome to take Soundblaster down.

A little later, after the Autobots had left, Spike, Daniel and Carly were seen happily running along a beach. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}
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====Madman ''The Transformers'' comic====
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In the year 2001, Spike Witwicky was overseeing the construction of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] when his friend [[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] complained about the fact he was stuck on guard duty while the rest of the Autobot forces were fighting a rearguard action during the evacuation of Cybertron. Spike tries to cheer him up, assuring the young Autobot that his time is coming, and for now, just to enjoy the view of the future Autobot City. While Hot Rod rambled on about Optimus Prime bravely fighting off Decepticons single-handedly, Spike spotted [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] and his minions up to no good on the dig site, and Hot Rod sprang into action. The young Autobot prevented the Decepticons from stealing the Autobot Matrix of Leadership, and during the struggle, the Autobot artifact spoke to him with Spike's own words of encouragement. {{Storylink|The Transformers (Madman)|The Transformers}}
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====''Wings Universe''====
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In [[2012]], Spike was stationed on [[Nebulos]] with Carly and Chip Chase. When [[Hi-Q]] went missing in the middle of a project, Spike sent a distress call that brought [[Pyro (G1)|Pyro]] and his team to visit. Spike took them to meet the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s and [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]], and helped them question [[Hi-Test]] on the disappearance. With [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]'s help, they got hold of some security footage that revealed Hi-Q had been kidnapped by the [[Battlecharger]]s. {{storylink|A Flash Forward, Part 3}}

====''Mars Attacks: The Transformers''====
Following a particularly intense battle in a city, Spike ran up to congratulate Prime on the victory, only to find his footwear being disparaged by [[The General|a General]]. Moments later, the planet was attacked by [[Martian]]s, and Spike sought cover with Bumblebee, who was reluctant to translate the Martians' speech for him. When later Spike found himself surrounded by Martians while standing in a puddle of [[water]], his [[yellow boots|rubber boots]] saved him from an electric jolt which took out the Martians, vindicating his choice of foot covering. {{storylink|Mars Attacks: The Transformers}}

====''Deviations''====
In an alternate timeline where [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] killed [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] in the [[Battle of Autobot City]], Spike watched as Optimus Prime prepared to sacrifice himself to stop [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] and later celebrated the defeat of the planet-eater and the [[Decepticon]]s on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with the [[Autobot]]s. {{Storylink|Transformers: Deviations|Deviations}}

===Marvel coloring books===
Spike and his father joined the Autobots on a mission to stop the Decepticons from acquiring sunken treasure in Alaskan waters. As they sailed northward in a boat of Wheeljack's creation, Spike commented on the beauty of the scenery. He and Hound were then ambushed by Ravage. Thanks to Hound's holographic powers, they both escaped the encounter unscathed. After Bumblebee had been captured by the Decepticons, Spike and Sparkplug tagged along with Optimus and the rest of the Autobots in order to rescue him. They remained safe from Decepticon fire within Brawn’s durable car mode.{{storylink|Search for Treasure Under the Sea}}

When all of the Autobots except Bumblebee were captured by the Decepticons, a plan was devised and implemented — Sparkplug and Spike constructed a [[Giant fake Autobot|giant cut-out Autobot]] which was placed outside Decepticon headquarters as a diversion while Bumblebee slipped in and freed everyone. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue!}}

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===Big Looker Storybooks continuity===
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Spike Witwicky and his father Sparkplug were investigating the damage done by a volcanic eruption close to their home town of [[Kimball]] when they witnessed a fleet of jet planes emerging from a spaceship buried within the volcano that the tremors had exposed. Spike was vocally opposed to Sparkplug's desire to examine the ship in search of "a little adventure", but ventured into the crater nonetheless, where he and his father were met by a talking Volkswagen named Bumblebee, who brought them into the ship and introduced them to his fellow Autobots. After helping the Autobots tap the volcano's energies to re-power their ship, Spike and Sparkplug were given a lift back home by Hound, but on the way, they witnessed the Decepticons draining the energy of a nearby power plant. Knowing that Hound wanted to return to his Autobot comrades to warn them that their enemies had re-powered themselves, Spike told him he could use "a little more adventure". The message was delivered, and as the Autobots readied for battle, Bumblebee took Spike and Sparkplug to a safe distance, where he would serve as a lookout and warn of a potential second wave of Decepticons approaching from the rear. Unfortunately, the battle lasted through the night, and when the rear wave appeared, Sparkplug realized that Bumblebee's signal—a flash of his headlights—was being lost in the rising sun. Spike, Sparkplug and Bumblebee raced into the battlefield to alert the Autobots, and they were able to get ready for the attack just in time. Optimus Prime credited victory in the battle to Spike and Sparkplug, and Spike affirmed his father's belief that the Autobots were their kind of machines. {{storylink|Battle for Cybertron}}

Spike and Sparkplug watched as the Autobots participated in a race to win a year's supply of gas and oil. The Autobots won, but Spike decided he'd stick to hot dogs and soda! {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}
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===Ladybird Books continuity===
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When a lighting storm spooked the Autobots, Spike wrote about the experience in his [[Spike's diary|diary]] the next morning, then tried to explain the phenomenon to his robot friends with the aid of his father. Intrigued by the idea of energy that fell from the sky, Optimus Prime had [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] construct a lightning rod to collect it, and Spike and Sparkplug were on hand as the finishing touches were added to the project. That night, Spike monitored weather forecasts and alerted the Autobots to the arrival of a new storm so they could see the machine in action. {{storylink|Autobots' Lightning Strike}}

Spike was instrumental in breaking the Decepticons' control over a human solar power station when he snuck into the facility with the intent of disabling the power-collecting machinery. Finding the door to the control room locked, Spike at first thought to pick the lock with his pen-knife, but quickly dismissed the idea and instead used the blade to alert the Autobots, watching nearby, flashing them a message in morse code by allowing the sun to glint off the knife. Optimus Prime sent [[Roller (G1)|Roller]] to deliver a [[sonic multi-tool]] to Spike, which allowed him to unlock the door and use the machinery to destroy the energon cubes the Decepticons had already gathered, sending them fleeing. {{storylink|Megatron's Fight for Power}}
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While he was in town with Ironhide to buy groceries, Spike spotted a flier for a car rally that he realized passed through the region where the Decepticons had set up a new temporary base. Spike suggested using the race as cover to investigate the Decepticons' activities, and so he and Jazz joined the rally, with Spike stealthily jumping from the moving Autobot as they neared the area in question to avoid detection. He discovered the Decepticons testing a new [[ion drive]] in an abandoned mineshaft, and hit on an idea: he had Jazz push a row of mine-cars down into the tunnel, destroying the ion drive and collapsing the tunnel on the evil robots. {{storylink|Autobots Fight Back}}

Investigating a report of Decepticon activity near a small village, Hound and Spike discovered that they had taken an interest in a local windmill. Spike and his father had to explain the concept of a non-electromagnetic mechanism to the baffled Autobots. When battle erupted around the windmill, Spike ran to the top of the structure to get a better look at the fight, but a blast from Laserbeak caused him to lose his footing and he fell onto the breaking lever, freeing the windmills sails to spin. [[File:LaserbeaksFury spike headshot.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1]] Laserbeak was knocked from the sky by a sail and the Decepticons were panicked by the primitive machine, causing Rumble to destroy it. Spike was able to get to safety before it collapsed, and the next day, consoled the worried Optimus Prime with the new that their battle hadn't even made the front page: the town was buzzing about Laserbeak's appearance a local disco! {{storylink|Laserbeak's Fury}}

When Spike joined the Autobots on a salvage mission to gather useful materials, it quickly became apparent that the Decepticons had developed a new method of spying on their enemies from orbital satellites. Remembering a story his father had told him when he was younger about two giants that were tricked into fighting each other, Spike suggested using the same tactic on the satellites. His aid didn't stop there: he was able to provide information about the [[Aurora Borealis]] and its radio-scrambling effects, allowing the Autobots to duplicate it as part of their plan to make the satellites crash into each other. {{storylink|Galvatron's Air Attack}}
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Following a failed Decepticon attack on Autobot City, Bumblebee and Spike secretly trailed the retreating [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] to the Decepticons' new hidden base in a nearby industrial estate. Instructed by Bumblebee to wait outside while he went spy, Spike paid a visit to an adjacent scrap yard and asked the [[A. McNulty|manager]] to help him find some some bronze-chrome wheel trims for Hot Rod. When Spike saved the man from a collapsing pile of junk, in gratitude, he gave him the wheel-trims for free. Bumblebee, meanwhile, had been spotted by [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], and hidden in vehicle mode in the junkyard, where he was almost scrapped by an electromagnet until Spike distracted the magnet's operator and save his little Autobot buddy. Subsequently, Spike and his father were used as the Autobots' human eyes and ears in the industrial estate, and learned for them that it was about to close down for a few weeks. The Autobots used this as a chance to take the fight to the Decepticons hiding there, and during the battle, Spike used several pieces of construction equipment to aid the Autobots, first drawing their fire with a calorifier on a chain, then using the electromagnet to trap several smaller Decepticons, before using a wrecking ball to attack Galvatron himself! Finally, Spike used the wrecking ball to collapse the entire building, burying the Decepticons in the rubble. {{storylink|Decepticon Hideout}}
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:G138 spike.jpg|left|thumb|Man, those Witwickies love pink shirts, don't they?]]
Spike Witwicky was away at college for the first few years of the [[Autobot]]/[[Decepticon]] [[Great War (G1)|war]] on [[Earth]], and was entirely unaware of his family's involvement in the robot conflict until the day he returned home to find [[Sparkplug Witwicky|his father]]'s [[S. Witwicky Auto Repairs & Tow Service|garage]] a pile of rubble. Spike was relieved to find his father alive and well, but this sense of relief did not last long, as Sparkplug explained that the damage was the work of the Decepticon [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and told Spike of [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster]]'s involvement with the Autobots. Intent on ensuring his brother's safety, Spike headed up to [[Mount St. Hilary]], but found the volcano abandoned. Presently, the Autobot splinter group led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], who had recently arrived in Earth orbit after departing the planet [[Nebulos]], entered the caverns, having followed distress call broadcast by [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Goldbug]]. Finding Goldbug's [[brain module]] in a toy car on the cavern floor, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] replayed recent images from the disembodied Autobots' memory, including Buster's capture by Ratbat. Seeing this image, Spike stepped forward and petitioned the Autobots for aid in saving his brother, but they turned him down and departed.

[[File:G138 spike in control.jpg|thumb|"Watch as I give him a wet willy!"]]
Spike bedded down in the cave overnight, but when he awoke the next morning, it was to the sight of [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons arriving in search of the Autobots. Despite their brushing him off, Spike believed the Autobots deserved a warning, and used the machinery in the cave to replay Goldbug's distress signal, summoning Maximus's team back to the volcano in time to save him from a vengeful Scorponok. As battle erupted, Spike sought safety deeper in the volcano, but was pursued into its confines by Scorponok's [[Nebulan]] component, Lord [[Zarak (G1)|Zarak]]. Fortress Maximus's Nebulan component [[Galen Kord|Galen]] followed, but was killed when Zarak triggered a rockslide. In his last moments, Galen passed his control helmet to Spike, who took control of Fortress Maximus and used his firepower to send the Decepticons into retreat. {{storylink|Trial by Fire!}}

The Autobots offered to properly [[binary bonding|binary bond]] Spike with Fortress Maximus, transforming him into a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], and Spike accepted, believing it to be his best chance of finding and rescuing Buster. He returned home to tell his father the news just as Sparkplug received a call from [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] of [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]] to let him know that Buster had been located. Using his new Headmaster powers to trace the call, Spike led the Autobots to a desert island that soon proved to be a [[Club Con|Decepticon base]] in disguise. [[File:G139 headmaster spike.jpg|left|thumb|"Though maybe the giant boxy shapes under my conspicuous trenchcoat should have been a clue."]] Prohibited from joining the fight by the other Autobots due to their fears his concern for Buster would short out Maximus's [[circuits#logic circuits|logic circuits]], Spike complied with their wishes at first, but when the Decepticons' base also proved to be a rocket that took off for space, Spike was forced to take action, linking with Fortress Maximus and pursuing. Although he was able to use Maximus to shoot down [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]], Spike was unable to get Buster free of the island's protective dome before the rocket outpaced him. {{storylink|The Desert Island of Space!}}

Returning to the ''[[Steelhaven (G1)|Steelhaven]]'' to build a new body for Goldbug, Spike was alerted by a bugging device he had left in his father's home to a phone call from [[Ethan Zachary]], and learned that the [[human]] had preserved the deceased [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s mind as a computer program. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}} Rendezvousing with the other Autobots in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to gain the resources to build Prime a new body, Spike earned the ire of current commander [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]], who violently rejected the notion that a human could lead any Autobots. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

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''When Optimus Prime was restored to life on Nebulous and returned to Earth, Spike, as part of Fortress Maximus, fought alongside him during the "[[Time Wars (event)|Time Wars]]".'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} Soon after, the Decepticons' island base resurfaced, and Spike took Optimus Prime and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] aboard Fortress Maximus to investigate, but the island was gone, relocated to the Arctic, by the time they arrived. {{storylink|Cold War!}} Following, the Autobots found Buster on the verge of hypothermia in the frozen wastes, but Spike used Fortress Maximus to carefully raise his brother's body temperature with infra-red heating. Spike later took Fortress Maximus into battle against the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], but was bested in a clash in [[Buenos Aires]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}

With Buster saved, Spike considered his work as Fortress Maximus's partner done, and following Starscream's defeat, announced his intent to leave the Autobot ranks despite their current depleted state. Leaving Maximus's body to gather dust in storage on the Ark, Spike returned to his normal life on Earth, but found himself plagued by nightmares full of mechanical imagery, prompting him to throw away his control helmet—kept for security's sake at the urging of Optimus Prime—in a junkyard to make a totally clean break from his brief time as a Headmaster. [[File:Fortressmaximus-thelastautobot1.jpg|left|thumb]] Unfortunately, Decepticon [[Pretender Beast]]s [[Snarler]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]], who had been sent to kill Spike by Scorponok, located the discarded helmet and proceeded to track Spike to [[California]], where he was on a ski trip with his friend, [[Cliff Dietz]]. Taking refuge in a cave, Cliff helped Spike realize that his nightmares held a deeper meaning: that binary-bonding went far deeper that he had ever realized, and that even without his control helmet, separated by millions of miles, he and Fortress Maximus were still connected, two minds in one being. With this realization, Spike was able to summon Fortress Maximus from the Ark to battle Snarler and Catilla, though his responses proved far more sluggish than usual. Recovering his control helmet from Snarler's disabled Pretender shell, Spike fully re-established his connection with Fortress Maximus and combined with him once more to defeat the two Decepticons. {{storylink|The Man in the Machine!}}

[[File:Spikewitwicky2009.jpg|thumb|In 2009, jheri curls returned with a vengeance. Don't you remember that?]]
Although this realization about the nature of his connection with Fortress Maximus seemed to change Spike's tune, at some point over the next few years, he reverted to his old outlook, and returned Maximus to the Ark so he could get back to his human life. When the Ark crashed back on Earth in [[1991]], Fortress Maximus urged Spike to investigate the crash site and recover his body so they could become one again and stop the menace posed to Earth by [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]]. Accepting his responsibility as the last Autobot currently on Earth, Spike acquiesced, but once he had re-combined with Maximus, found his will subsumed by the Autobot, who elected to actively pursue Galvatron. Maximus found himself no match for the deranged future Decepticon, however, and called out for Spike's aid, but Spike refused to make a point, before the two came to an understanding and united their minds to bring Galvatron down. {{storylink|The Last Autobot?}}

In an alternate timeline in the year [[2009]], Spike Witwicky was part of a very small Autobot/human resistance movement in a world where [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]]'s Decepticons controlled North America. The handful of Autobots who remained alive despaired and were on the cusp of giving up, but Spike and [[Lisa]] (who shared growing feelings for each other) guilted them into one last suicidal attack on the [[Decepticon Powerbase]] in New York before the rest of the world could unleash a nuclear holocaust onto America at midnight. Though there were several casualties, Spike managed to hoist an American flag on the Decepticon stronghold on live television, a symbolic measure which prompted the end of the planned nuclear strike. Before Galvatron could respond, the Decepticon despot was abducted by [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]] into another timeline. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}
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=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
[[File:Spikewitwickytimewars.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|White jumpsuits were so 2006.]]
''In the year [[2009]], Decepticons had built an [[energy leech (device)|energy leech]] to destroy Earth while [[time rift|a space-time anomaly]] was eating entire planets. After [[Hot Rod/Marvel Comics continuity|Rodimus Prime]] orchestrated a plan to travel twenty years back in time to the source of the anomaly, Spike Witwicky and his son Daniel accused Rodimus of shirking his responsibilities towards Earth and guilted Rodimus into allotting more troops to help destroy the Decepticons' machine.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}
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{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Planet-Eater!}} {{storylink|Judgment Day!}} {{storylink|The Final Battle!}}}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[File:Spikewitwickyg2.jpg|upright=0.5|thumb|Now the jumpsuit's in BROWN?]]
Despite the conclusions he had come to and the newfound unity he had forged with Maximus during his battle with Galvatron, it was apparent that old habits proved hard for Spike to shake. He again returned Maximus's body to the ruined Ark and tried to get back to life, presumably on the basis that so much time passed on Earth without any Transformer activity that he believed it was "all over". {{storylink|All or Nothing!}} A few years later, however, when Megatron returned and a small squad of Autobots came to Earth to battle him in [[Milleville]], Spike was drawn to the site of the battle, and snuck back aboard the Ark, now restored and under Megatron's control. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

Discovering that Megatron was holding [[Sidney Biggles-Jones]] captive, Spike realized that he had no choice but to bond with Fortress Maximus once more, only to find that Megatron had disabled Maximus's dormant body while rebuilding the Ark, leaving him under-equipped for combat. Caught in the act of donning his armor by fellow stowaway [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]], Spike combined with Maximus (curiously omitting Cerebros from the process) and explained his presence, then charged Skydive with rescuing Doctor Biggles-Jones while he and Maximus took Megatron on. Unsurprisingly, Megatron grievously wounded the pair, forcing Skydive to step in and distract him long enough for Maximus to escape, and make his way to the Ark's anti-matter power core. Intended to breach the core with his body and destroy the ship, hoping to take Megatron with it, Maximus instructed Spike to disconnect and escape, but Spike resolved to stay with his partner to the end to ensure their success. They smashed into the core together and perished in the resultant ship-destroying explosion, but alas, their sacrifice was in vain, as Megatron survived. {{storylink|All or Nothing!}}
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====''Classics''====
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[[File:Invasion-Radcontrolroom.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Well, it beats a jheri curl.]]
Spike retained his duties as Fortress Maximus's binary-bond partner for decades, and eventually he was stationed in [[South America]]. He was present one day in [[2012]] when [[Rad (G1)|Rad]] reported from the [[Construction station|Ironworks]] base in [[Oregon]] about a foiled attack by [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Gigatron]] and his Decepticons. Soon thereafter, due to the actions of an evil [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]] from [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|another dimension]], a rift of space time opened over Earth, causing catastrophes worldwide. Spike, merged with [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]], gathered civilians inside Fortress Maximus for safety. {{storylink|Invasion (issue)|Invasion}}

When the [[Rarefied Energon]] of his world caused Earth to come alive as the entity called [[Gaea (Classics)|Gaea]], Spike and all other Earth-lifeforms were teleported across dimensions to inhabit a new Earth. {{storylink|The Future Buried...}}
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====''Regeneration One''====
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Spike was able to keep everyone from poking around in the Ark for a year or two, but he eventually stopped being Fortress Maximus full-time so he could live his life. Unfortunately, that meant some greedy/bored people were able to sneak into the Ark and poke around it in 1994... awakening Megatron! {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}} Even with nuclear weaponry turned against Earth's cities by the [[Aunty|Ark's computer]] and [[zombie]] Decepticons roaming the Earth, Spike struggled with becoming Fortress Maximus again—and his hesitation cost the lives of his brother, Buster and Buster's wife, [[Jesse (G1)|Jessie]]. {{storylink|Less Than Zero}}

[[File:SpikeWitwicky CircuitSmasher LooseEnds3.jpg|thumb|Powered by Blackrock ingenuity and 90s angst.]]
Spike finally became Fortress Maximus again and led a final battle alongside [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Josie Beller]] and [[G.B. Blackrock]]. The final battle was a bust: Fortress Maximus was killed and Spike's mind and nervous system went with him.

Blackrock, however, used Beller's neural-cybernetic technology and bonded them with Spike's Headmaster parts, bringing him 'back to life', retarding his aging, and giving him powerful electric powers. Taking up the name '''Circuit-Smasher''', Spike became the main weapon for the rebels in [[Argus Base]] against Megatron's genocide. Unfortunately, he could only do so much and the Decepticon corpses were incapable of being permanently killed (again), and by 2012 he was angry enough to attack the first Autobots he saw on sight, blaming them for Earth's demise. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2}}

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Only some appeals from [[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and fellow rebel [[Gordon Kent]] calmed Spike down. He led the Autobot [[Wrecker]]s to Argus Base, filling them in on the destruction of Earth and how this was the Ark's fault. He then formed part of a conference with Springer, Blackrock, Kent, and Sandstorm, running through their new options now the Wreckers were on Earth, only to be interrupted by a broadcast from Megatron, taunting the Autobots with the tortured body of Kup. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}} Spike, along with a few of the Wreckers and a handful of humans armed with [[Battlesuit]]s, attacked the Ark, with the intention of shutting down its supercomputer [[Aunty|Auntie]]. Before attacking, Spike made it clear that they were to deactivate the Ark, and if he began to suspect any of them were thinking of trying to get it back under control and using it to leave, he would crash every single one of their circuits. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4}} He blasted a projectile that was launched at one of the humans. After [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]] was blasted by the Ark's auto-turret defenses, Spike coldly commanded everyone to keep moving, saying that all of the Wreckers were expendable. Once they broke through the Ark's outer defenses, Auntie deployed [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardians]] to protect herself. As the Wreckers and humans fought the Guardians, Spike infiltrated the Ark, but was detected by Auntie, who detained him. However, Spike was still able to use his powers to smash every single one of Auntie's circuits, deactivating her and the Guardians. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}

After Megatron and his army were taken care of, Spike came to Optimus Prime, telling him that he and the others had unanimously decided on the Autobots leaving Earth for good. When Prime offered to help, Spike angrily rejected the offer, warning Optimus not to make ask them to leave more than once. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}}

Spike was, naturally, very angry to find out that Optimus Prime had chosen to stay behind, despite their wishes, and proceeded to brutally attack him upon encountering him in Wyoming. Only the intervention of other humans kept Circuit Smasher from finishing Optimus off, and their commander, [[Linda Chang]], agreed to allow Optimus to speak to the human leadership, but if he were to deviate in any way from their orders, she would allow Spike to finish him off. As he was led away, Optimus asked Spike if she was his commanding officer; he revealed that she was his wife!

At the human encampment, Optimus proposed uniting the people of Earth with Nebulos in a joint effort to rebuild both their worlds. The Nebulans' advanced science and technology could speed the rebuilding of Earth, while the Earthlings' strength and tenacity could help the Nebulans recover from the mass mental trauma inflicted upon them by the recently revived [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. Circuit Smasher was quick to shoot down the idea, but the other humans, including G.B. Blackrock, proved more receptive, and agreed to give careful consideration to Prime's plan. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Two}}

Primus identified Spike to [[Hot Rod/Marvel Comics continuity|Rodimus Prime]] as one of four threats to the Great Plan. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Five}} With his anger, it was easy to see why—even after the human coalition voted to accept Prime's offer of rigging a [[space bridge]] to connect them to [[Nebulos]] for mutual gain, Spike less-than-subtly implied he might destroy the Bridge anyway. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 1}}

Spike was as surprised as anyone when the Space Bridge first opened, and Fortress Maximus emerged. His "other self" had been reconstituted with his original head thanks to Nebulos's bio-metasynthesis program, but he was also corrupted by the [[Dark Matrix (G1)|Dead Matrix]]. Fortress Maximus blasted Optimus Prime into submission and kidnapped the stunned Spike. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}} In Zero Space, the Dead Matrix entity revealed Spike's unique blend of human-Nebulan-Cybertronian anatomy made him the perfect key to accessing the rest of the multiverse. The entity psychologically tortured Spike to bring forth the power necessary to achieve its ends. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 4}} Rodimus Prime was eventually able to reach Spike in Zero Space, convincing him to let go of his anger, denying the entity the power it needed for passage to other worlds. Spike returned to Earth with a great burden lifted from his conscience, and assisted with the reconstruction of human civilization. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 5}}

===Project Brain Drain===
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Spike set out for a rock concert taking place at [[Heywood Heights]] with some friends, unaware that his father had just discovered that the Decepticons were planning on using a brain drain device to syphon all of the concertgoers’ brain power away.

Whether or not Spike’s father and the Autobots succeeded in saving Spike depended on the choices they made throughout the adventure that followed.

In one notable scenario, Sparkplug searched the crowd of concert-goers frantically for Spike, as his Autobot friends were being destroyed by Galvatron and his troops. Upon being found, Spike had already been drained of his brain power, and was confused as to why Sparkplug was looking so sad, though Spike was unable to recognize the man as his own father. {{storylink|Project Brain Drain}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
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Spike, his brother Buster, and his father Sparkplug met the Autobots early on in their time on Earth. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}} Spike formed a close friendship with Bumblebee. {{storylink|Extermination}}

Somewhere in the time after [[1984]], Spike married Carly, who then gave birth to Spike's son, Daniel. {{storylink|Extermination}} After the explosion of the ''[[Ark II]]'' in [[1999]], which caused the death of Spike's father Sparkplug, Spike tried to leave his involvement with the Transformers behind and settled down with his wife and son in Cleveland, Ohio, trying to live a new life as a normal family. The newfound peace wouldn't last for long, though, as Spike was soon recruited by a shady military official named [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] seeking his help in reviving Optimus Prime, whose body his men had recently found in the Arctic. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 1|Prime Directive #1}} Spike, who had been entrusted by Prime with a fragment of the Matrix, used that fragment to bring Prime back to life.

Optimus Prime subsequently used the Matrix to revive and assemble a group of his Autobots, which he would then lead against Megatron's Decepticons. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} Meanwhile, Spike was imprisoned by General Hallo, who had double motives behind reviving the Autobots {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}} and even tried to kill them by bombing them. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}} With the help of [[Larry|Larry, the World's Most Resourceful Janitor]], Spike was able to escape his cell and uncover the [[Lazarus Project]] and Hallo's sinister schemes, but not in time to stop him from launching a nuclear strike against the Autobots {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}} which was ultimately averted when [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] sacrificed his life in order to make it detonate before it could reach its target. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}

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Following these events, Spike once again returned to his family and tried to leave his past with the Transformers behind. A few months later, though, his old friend Bumblebee, who had just decided to quit the Autobot army following a fierce battle against [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], showed up by his house. Spike, frustrated that the Autobots refused to leave him alone, hurled a few nasty insults against his old buddy {{storylink|Extermination}} before changing his mind and joining him on a men's night out in the city, where they stopped a mugging. {{storylink|Lost and Found (issue)|Lost and Found}}

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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
In response to the forming of the terrorist organization [[Cobra]] and its commandeered Transformers, the United States government assembled a strike team dubbed [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]. Spike Witwicky (codename Spike) was listed on the roster, but was never seen. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
Spike was out driving with Bumblebee and Hound when, to their surprise, they stumbled on a badly-damaged Starscream. Though Spike was all in favor of leaving the Decepticon there, Bumblebee insisted they take Starscream back to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] with them. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

Bumblebee gave Spike a ride to his high school, but while Spike was in class, his Autobot pal got carjacked. When Spike emerged, he found a smug Bumblebee sitting in the carpark with two wet seats. {{storylink|Joyride (story)|Joyride}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
'''Stevie "Spike" Witwicky''' was the son of four-star general Daniel "Sparkplug" Witwicky. From a young age, he wanted to be a soldier just like his idolised dad. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}} Sparkplug often took him on long camping trips in the woods, and this outdoors lifestyle caused Spike to develop a dislike for relying on machines. {{storylink|Scrapper (issue)|Scrapper}}

He met his friend [[Joe Henderson]] at the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. By this point, Spike had let his family ties go to his head and was insufferably arrogant and obnoxious. Worse, he started to act like he was in an action movie, treating everyone else as the supporting character and doing "cool" stuff like rule-breaking, acting reckless, and taking personal vendettas, which is less "cool" and more "dangerous and illegal" in real life. But since he was both protected by his daddy ''and'' also genuinely smart and competent as a soldier, he was able to get away with this. He graduated second in his class and went to work in special forces, where he continued to act like he was in a story. {{Storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward|Only Forward}} Spike also began to have a ''lot'' of casual sex. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.|Vs.}}

[[File:Spikewitwickybuttonflies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Hey, remember above, when we said we filled the beefcake quota for the wiki? We lied!]]
In the wake of the Decepticons' devastating attack on Earth, Commander Spike Witwicky met his dad inside a secret bunker where the remnants of the United States military had gathered to mount a desperate counteroffensive. Regrettably, Sparkplug had selected Spike for a mission to assassinate the leader of the Decepticons, [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]], even though he feared his son would not make it back. It was a suicide mission, but Spike was the most qualified. Spike accepted, despite the consequences, but ignored his father's pleas for him to call his worried mother first.

During the night, he and a team snuck into [[New York City]] by boat, but they were discovered by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. With one dive, the boat and its occupants were dashed to bits under the water, and Spike's signal was destroyed. Learning his son was dead, Sparkplug, in shock, believed it was he who had not only sent his son to die, but had inspired Spike to join the military in the first place. But unknown to Sparkplug, his son surfaced on the shore of New York, perfectly alive... {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}}

Stealing new pants from an abandoned [[Gloomingdales]], Spike ran into the leaders of the underground human resistance movement, who were looking for supplies. Spike took [[Bridge]] and [[Sarah]] into an abandoned office building to discuss gathering the resistance and assassinating Megatron. But first, Spike took them into a disguised military facility where he retrieved a weapon created from studying [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]]'s gun arm. Their quick escape was cut short, since [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] was causing a ruckus outside. Telling the others to run for cover, Spike ducked into a building and then reappeared when he drove a motorcycle through an upstairs window, firing a small pistol. This distracted Rumble long enough for [[Charles (G1)|Charles]] to shoot him right in the face. Rumble's defeat was followed by an overcoming sonic screech, and as Soundwave arrived to sadly take Rumble's body away, it seemed the city's electronic blackout was over. Phones were working again, and so Spike called his father. He learned not only that his father thought he was dead, but that there was nothing they could do to prevent other nations from unleashing a nuclear onslaught across North America. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}

Later, Spike, Sarah, Bridge and Charles ran out of a half-demolished building, passing [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], who was slagging the [[European Union]] jets. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}}

He and his party set up a better sniper position in a nearby building, where they watched [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|two]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|robots]] fight each other. When Megatron eventually bested Optimus, Spike decided it was time to intervene. He charged the weapon and blasted Megatron's face, allowing Optimus to defeat him. Later, [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] found him and brought him to Optimus Prime. Prime offered to help Spike and the rest of the humans rebuild their planet. Spike thanked Prime for his thought, but said that there was no chance of the Transformers and the humans reconciling. As he put it, Optimus' "kind" caused all the destruction, and that any chance of an alliance was gone. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

[[File:SpikeWitwickyG1-ManofSteel.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"All right, guys, who ordered me the strippers?"]]
After the Decepticons' defeat, they abandoned Earth, leaving Ravage and others behind. Spike Witwicky headed a military regiment to hunt down surviving Transformers and found Ravage in an abandoned building. Ravage attacked Spike but got blasted for his efforts. At least he put Spike in the hospital, though. Sparkplug became the new head of [[Skywatch]] and requested Spike join his task force of ridding the planet of Transformers. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 16|The Man of Steel}} Being lionised for saving the world ''and'' becoming a tactical commander went to Spike's head. {{Storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward|Only Forward}} He also made the decision to violate US and international law by trading with the Decepticon war criminal [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], giving him resources in exchange for the advanced Cybertronian technology that would become Skywatch's arsenal. (Someone on Skywatch's oversight panel was almost certainly allowing this to carry on...) {{storylink|Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden|A Second Chance at Eden}}

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Two years later, Spike was still commanding the Transformer-hunting team. With his [[Crash suit]], he quickly contained the Decepticon [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] which subsequently drew the watching [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] out of hiding. Then he drove away in the contained Breakdown {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} for a one-night stand with a [[Spike's booty call|local stripper]]. He came back to the Skywatch HQ after being alerted to Optimus' surrender. His father reprimanded him for being offsite for Prowl's liberation and Optimus' surrender, so to prove himself, Spike went to interrogate Optimus. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 1: "New Arrivals, Old Encounters"|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} In spite of his attempts to appear friendly, however, the Autobot leader refused to be given any special treatment and did not give up any information on the other Autobots. Spike then resorted to capturing three more Autobots and asking Optimus if he'd do it for ''their'' sake. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 2: "A Rude Awakening"|A Rude Awakening}} This didn't work either. With one day left before his father arrived to take Optimus Prime away, Spike had nothing to show for it and was feeling like he hadn't accomplished anything as a leader. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 3: "Seasons in Flight"|Seasons in Flight}}

During another chat with Optimus, Spike listened to his story about how long it took for him to learn that there was more to leadership than winning battles and how he still treated the situation on Earth like a war. He had given himself up because he could not change, but was impressed by humanity's capacity for change and believed Spike would become a great leader much faster than he did. Needing some time alone to think about this, Spike went on a drive in Breakdown only be to attacked by the other [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and forced to hide in a river. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 4: "Enemies of the System"|Enemies of the System}} Once he was picked up by a Skywatch transport, he learned that the Stunticons had combined into [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and realized they needed Optimus Prime's help to defeat him. Having thought about what Optimus told him, Spike returned to base and admitted to Optimus that his poor leadership had led to the death of [[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]] at the hands of Skywatch, but now he had realized it was time for a change. He released Optimus from captivity, allowing the Autobots to defeat Menasor, then approached the new Autobot leader [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] with an offer to form an alliance between Skywatch and the Autobots. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 5: "Earthworks"|Earthworks}}

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The Autobots accepted, and so Skywatch stopped hunting them and let them use their facilities in exchange for access to their technology. Sparkplug disapproved, but Spike defended his decision by saying they could never capture ''all'' the Autobots or even keep up with their technology anyway, so working together was the best option as long as they kept [[Section 82|certain]] things hidden from them. Still, he had illegally released a prisoner, so his entire unit had to be sworn to silence so that the generals wouldn't find out they had broken military protocol. [[Sandra (G1)|Sandra]] protested this deception, but Spike shrugged it off as just a little white lie. {{storylink|All His Engines}}

Wanting to avoid another combiner incident, and frankly just wanting revenge for [[Tim Simmons|a comrade]] who had been killed by Devastator, Spike set up a secret, isolated system to detect the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]. {{storylink|Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden|A Second Chance at Eden}} After a video conference with [[Allenby|General Allenby]], during which Sparkplug helped corroborate his cover-up story that Optimus Prime had escaped from custody on his own, his father told him the alliance with the Autobots was an uneasy one and now was ''not'' the time to get overconfident and sloppy. Then he went AWOL to hunt down Scrapper on his own without telling either Skywatch or the Autobots. He neutralised the Decepticon using deliberately low-tech means, in order to rub in how badass humans are and be a movie-style hero. And then murdered him when he was wounded and helpless, and covered it up. {{storylink|Scrapper (issue)|Scrapper}}

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When a shuttle crash-landed in Vegas and unleashed a horde of zombies, organic and robotic alike, Spike joined the Autobots and other members of Skywatch in neutralizing the threat. The situation was further complicated when Optimus and Galvatron began to scuffle amidst the chaos, prompting Spike to tell his men to target Galvatron's "Decepticons." But the situation worsened further still when Spike's fellow operative [[Larson]] that the zombies could infect both the [[Crash suit]]s and their pilots with a bite the hard way... Spike didn't waver from his objective even after Larson was zombified however, and continued to try and subdue Galvatron, only to be caught in the ancient Cybertronian's grasp. With Bumblebee's help, Glavatron was finally inhibited. But the greater threat loomed still, as the zombie plagued spread around the Autobots/Skywatch team. The Autobots quarantined Vegas with a forcefield, and Spike ordered his team to herd the uninfected into safe zones while the Autobots dealt with the threat more directly. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 1|The Transformers: Infestation #1}} Spike continued to fight alongside Bumblebee until his team could regroup with Galvatron and Optimus's forces. Thanks to their combined forces, they were able to repel the zombie infestation from Earth. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infestation issue 2|The Transformers: Infestation #2}}

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Later, the Combaticons managed to get help from North Korea. Spike, who talked to Optimus over the actual leader Bumblebee, requested that the Autobots help against this threat. That's when the [[President of the United States]] said that anyone using a Transformer would be considered in possession of weapons of mass destruction... and Spike ordered everyone that they ''hadn't heard that alright'' {{storylink|International Incident Part 1: "The Land Ironclads"|The Land Ironclads}} and smuggled the Autobots into South Korea to intervene in their car disguises. Once there, Skywatch banter caused Spike complained about the lack of intelligence that one of his units was showing only for Optimus to point out the unit's intelligence reflects on its commander. The need to keep the Autobots a secret undermined their effectiveness {{storylink|International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"|Ranks of Bronze}} and they ended up in robot mode, in a brawl with the Combaticons ''and'' Predacons. Sandra then blew the whistle on what Skywatch were up to. And ''then'' she told Spike that Russia had announced they were launching a nuclear missile at the battle. Spike attempted to make the forces stop due to the threat but with no result. He then relied on Cosmos to get rid of the problem. {{storylink|International Incident Part 4: "All My Sins Remembered"|All My Sins Remembered}}

[[File:Spike is sweaty Woken Furies.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|We told you not to read the comments section.]]
While arriving back at Skywatch, Spike and his comrades were shot down by a mysterious object.{{Storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man|The Demolished Man}} Spike and the others managed to survive the crash but had to stay underwater until they had reached [[San Francisco]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 3: Woken Furies|Woken Furies}} Spike woke up in Optimus later and received a message from a repaired Megatron that he was holding hostages and Optimus went to save them. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 4: Burning Chrome|Burning Chrome}} Optimus tried to track down Megatron after rescuing the hostages. Spike suggested a more low tech approach. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 5: Enemy Mine|Enemy Mine}}

Most of the Autobots later left to liberate their home world, Cybertron. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix|Orphans of the Helix}} The remaining Autobots were left on Earth to investigate Scrapper's death and Spike requested Prowl remain involved in the case, leaving Prowl to be suspicious of Spike's motives. {{storylink|Police Action: Prologue}}

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Spike suggested Prowl should investigate Ben Simpson but Prowl ended up spying on Spike instead. Spike was attacked by Breakdown but was saved by Streetwise. {{storylink|Police Action: Part 1|Police Action #1}} Shortly after this, Spike decided to admit to Prowl that he killed Scrapper {{storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward|Only Forward}} and when he was accused of having intended to violate the guarantees he'd made the Autobots all along, he turned it around on Prowl: he claimed it was necessary, that he knew Prowl had made murky decisions out of necessity before, and that it was Prowl himself that would wreck Autobot/human relations if he blabbed. The Autobot responded that he'd trusted Spike before and never could again, but Spike was unconcerned since ''he'd'' never trusted the Autobots since, hey, they're not human.

And then his successful moral checkmate and fancy words were blown to pieces because the Autobots had brought in Swindle, who would clearly blab about the illegal and immoral deal Spike had made. Spike fled the Skywatch base and was reduced to an international fugitive, after the Autobots revealed his crimes to both his superiors and to the news media. {{storylink|Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden|A Second Chance at Eden}} His father was again covered for his ass, covertly sending him helpful emails. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.|Vs.}}

Spike's betrayal not only shattered Prowl's belief in a better way to behave {{storylink|Devisive}}, it also meant Prowl and the Constructicons, bitter about Scrapper's death, had a common issue to bond over. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}} ''Thanks, bro.''

Years later, when Skywatch had been replaced by the [[Earth Defense Command]], Spike had fallen in with the Autobots' former ally [[Jimmy Pink]] and was on a mission to keep Cybertronians and their technology off Earth.{{storylink|Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches|Signals, Calls, and Marches}} By this point, Spike was aware that the Transformers had visited Earth long before 1984. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.|Vs.}} Aware of mega-corporation [[Onyx]]'s use of Cybertonian tech, they hunted down a [[Mini-Constructicon]] in [[Japan]] and used it to hack an Onyx conference and reveal their crimes to the world. Then he ''killed'' the captive 'Con to terminate the link. Both the EDC and Prowl and the Constructions began hunting for him. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches|Signals, Calls, and Marches}} When Spike picked up the means to enter Onyx's [[China|Wanmu]] facility from [[Maki|his contact]], where he could get his hands on some Cybertronian relics, he came under fire from the bots. He and Jimmy escaped on motorbikes which turned out to be [[Rumble (G1)|Decepticons]] in [[Frenzy (G1)|disguise]], taking him to [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] to be interrogated on that Wanmu relic. Spike was then captured by Prowl...

...who said he forgave him! {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.|Vs.}} Spike thought it was because Prowl understood that he was fighting for his species' preservation, but no, it was because he'd come to believe the Transformers were irredeemably destructive. He now wanted help getting the [[Enigma of Combination]] from Wanmu to stop the war and, as a final prod, revealed that Galvatron had killed Spike's dad. Teamed up with the 'bots, Spike used a stealth polymer to sneak into Onyx's base... and found Prowl had been lying about that "forgiveness" thing, as once he was done the robots formed into Devastator and attacked! {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Three: ONoffON|ONoffON}}

Spike tried to get out of this by getting the drop on EDC bigwig [[Marissa Faireborn]] and using her as a human shield, but she ended up clobbering him. The sight of him caused Devastator to forgot all other objectives and go after him, losing it the Enigma, while Spike 'helped' by taunting the gestalt until Jimmy Pink could rescue him. Once the battle was over both of them were taken into custody by Earth Defense Command. {{storylink|The Onyx Interface Conclusion: The Obliterati|The Obliterati}}

Faireborn was uninterested in anything Spike had to say but allowed Blackrock to have a chat with him. She probably should have listened in, as Blackrock told the prisoner that his [[Onyx]] source code allowed him to monitor ''every device on Earth'' and also the ''souls'' of those using them! As he couldn't see his own soul, he wanted Spike to tell him why. As he talked, he used Onyx to take down the Autobots {{storylink|The Nothing Man}} and even ''Spike'' found it disturbing when Blackrock began slowly dissolving the captive Autobots so he could convert them into lonsdaleite! {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} The tycoon talked mad crap about how he saw a "[[Onyx Prime (G1)|black angel]]" as a child, as well as how dangerous the Autobots could be. Spike, being Spike, said this threat was why Blackrock should release him and put him in charge, but to no avail. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} Blackrock continued to demand that the exasperated Spike find out who he was, and that he could do it as he'd seen the "best and worst" of Transformers—at which point he twigged that the tycoon was ''himself'' a Cybertronian, unaware of it!

[[File:New World Order Oval Office.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.2|smirksmirksmirk]]

The Autobots suddenly busted into the EDC base and Spike took the chance to grab Blackrock, but Galvatron showed up, revealed Spike had been right, and warped out with the tycoon.{{storylink|Conquerors Part 3: Helden|Helden}} Spike got to wtiness as Galvatron began his plan to conquer Earth, only for the Autobots to show up in full force! {{storylink|Conquerors Part 4: Perihelion|Perihelion}} Faireborn continued to ignore Spike as he tried to give advice during the Transformers' Beijing battle, and again as he yelled for her to fire everything the EDC had as the Autobots headed for them. She pointed out Optimus had just saved the planet; Spike declared that as an ex-Autobot ally, he knew ''exactly'' what they were capable of. When Optimus declared Earth was his protectorate now, she realised Spike had been right {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}} and so did the [[President of the United States]], who pardoned him, reinstated his rank of Captain, and made him her liason to the EDC. Spike smirked and smirked as the President told Faireborn that killing Cybertronians and sabotaging Blackrock had turned out to be the right thing to do. {{storylink|New Worlds Order}}

Now he could finally visit his mother again, promising he was back and he'd stop the baddie robots "like ''Dad'' would". After that, he was part of an EDC/[[People's Liberation Army Mecha Force|PRA Mecha Force]] raid on Thundercracker's old base; Spike really, ''really'' liked [[Zilong Qian]] talking about killing Transformers, and also liked dissing Faireborn when the raid seemed a bust! He took the opportunity to cut in over the EDC to tell the President that the Transformers not being at the Sierras meant the "aliens" could be anywhere, that they "don't think like us", and that they should remember how last time they said they were here to help, Jazz killed a guy. The team found the Autobots had written "WE ARE HERE TO HELP" all over the place before leaving. He flipped his narrative when Optimus stomped outside the White House but then left: that his not wanting to kill humans was an exploitable weakness. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|Edge of the Earth}}

===''Transformers: All Spark''===
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{{storylink|The Fated Rival, Once Again...}} {{storylink|To Earth}} {{storylink|Reunion and Parting}} {{storylink|Plans of the Emperor of Destruction}} {{storylink|Revenge (All Spark)}} {{storylink|The False Power}} {{storylink|Ray of Hope}} {{storylink|Great Aspirations}} {{storylink|Conclusion}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
An etching of "Spike Witwicky" existed in [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], along with "[[Galen Kord|Galen Witwicky]]" and "[[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]]". [[Plasma]], part of the trio that controlled Fortress Maximus, claimed to be Spike, among many other individuals related to the giant. {{storylink|Head Games}}

==Commercial appearances==
Spike brought some friends to visit an Autobot base in the dead of night. They were briefly stopped by the base's guards, who shined their headlights down on them to verify their allegiance. The three boys were cleared for entry, since they were wearing Transformers [[Iron-on patch|reflective patches]]! {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Reflective patches|Prizes in Disguise contest/reflective patches commercial}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
[[File:TFLegends-AutobotX.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
Spike, along with [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], was transported back in time to the sixth century, where they joined with [[Aetheling the Red|Lord Aetheling]], and were forced to combat similarly-displaced Decepticons at a medieval technology level. They eventually triumphed and returned to the present with the Decepticons as prisoners. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (Legends)|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}} After Spike was gravely wounded during a Decepticon attack on an air force base, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] transferred Spike's mind into [[Autobot X (G1)|Autobot X]]. The trauma made Autobot X go berserk, and he fled the base, eventually being found by [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], who convinced him to turn on the Autobots. When his father was injured in the battle, Spike came back to his senses and after the Decepticons were defeated, Wheeljack transferred his mind back to his healed body. {{storylink|Autobot X (Legends)|Autobot X}} Spike suggested the Autobots hold a charity race. It did not go as planned. {{storylink|Autobot Run}} Hoist was out driving with Spike and [[Carly]] when they happened on a film shoot, leading to the Autobot being cast in a film. {{storylink|Hoist Goes Hollywood (Legends)|Hoist Goes Hollywood}}

During [[Unicron]]'s attack on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Spike and some Autobots were lost inside the giant, resulting in [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and Spike's son [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] searching for them. They were reunited and escaped Unicron prior to his destruction. {{storylink|Belly of the Beast (Legends)|Belly of the Beast}}

[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and Spike were kidnapped by [[Skuxxoid]]s during the [[Galactic Olympics|Galactic Games]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness: Part 1}} Though the trio were sentenced to death by the Quints, the other Autobots arrived in time to save them. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness: Part 2}} When the Quintessons later used an ancient device to deactivate the Transformers, Spike was able to destroy it, saving the lives of his friends. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness: Part 3}}

Following an Decepticon assault led by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], Spike, alongside [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], and Ultra Magnus were forced into taking cover within the [[Autobot Mausoleum]]. This did little to improve their situation, however, as the Decepticons continued their advance. Unexpectedly, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] rose from his tomb, providing hope that the tide may yet turn in the Autobots' favour. This was not to be, unfortunately, as the resurrected Autobot leader left the group stranded after having received the Matrix of leadership from Rodimus. After Optimus regained his senses, the Autobots were left to mourn their leader as he sacrificed himself once more to undo the Quintessons' trap. {{storylink|Dark Awakening (Legends)|Dark Awakening}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:Spikeheadmastertoy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Finally, your favorite Transformers character!]]
*'''Fortress Maximus''' (Headmaster, [[1987]])

:Spike is a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] figure that comes with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. Gray and blue, it transforms into [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]]'s head, which then in turn becomes Fortress Maximus's head. Although the on-package [[bio]] refers to 'the Nebulan leader, Spike', most assume it is supposed to represent the character from TV, making this the first Transformers toy of an Earth human.

:This toy was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Galen Kord|Galen]], and [[redeco]]ed as [[Grand Maximus|Gran]], ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'' [[Cerebros (RID)|Plasma]] and ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' [[Master (RM)|Master]]. It was retooled to make [[BotCon 2014]] [[Olin Zarak]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1987/Autobot/FortressMaximus/fortressmaximus.htm More information on Spike (with Fortress Maximus) at TFU.info]''
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===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:Masterpiecetoy spike.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Convoy''' ([[2011]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-10'''
:''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10|MP-10 Convoy]] comes with a small figure of Spike. Standing at about an inch tall, he features articulation in his shoulders, hips and knees, and is scaled to be able to sit in all the cockpit spaces that ''[[Diaclone]]'' figures could occupy on the original Generation 1 Optimus Prime figure, such as Prime's passenger compartment while in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]], [[Roller (G1)|Roller]]'s seats, the consoles on the floor of the [[Combat Deck (G1)|Combat Deck]], and the cockpit of the Combat Deck's artillery robot.

:As this smaller incarnation of Convoy is in [[scale]] with them, Spike is also capable of riding ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' figures!
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[[File:ConvoyModeEva Spike.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Looks like Shinji ran away again...Spike, you're hired!]]
*'''Convoy Mode "Eva"''' ([[November 28|11-28]]-[[2014]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-10E'''

:For ''[[Transformers × Evangelion]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#eva|Convoy Mode "Eva"]], an ''Evangelion''-themed redeco of MP-10 Convoy, the Spike figure was redecoed in a color scheme based on [[NERV]] uniforms.
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[[File:MP22-UltraMagnus-SpikeDaniel.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[December 27|12-27]]-2014)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-22'''

:''Masterpiece'' MP-22 [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#MP22|Ultra Magnus]] includes articulated figurines of [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)#MP22|Daniel]] and his father Spike, based on their appearances in the movie and Season 3 of the cartoon. Both can fit in seats inside the truck cab.
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
*'''Masterpiece Optimus Prime''' ([[2012]])
:A [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] in the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'' toyline]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10hasbro|Hasbro's release]] of the MP-10 figure and its accessories features various plastic color and [[Paint operation|paint detail]] changes, yet Spike appears to be no different.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/MPSpikeWitwicky/spikewitwicky.htm More information on Masterpiece Spike at TFU.info]''
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==Merchandise==
===''Super Collection Figure''===
[[File:SCF-Bumblebee-Spike.JPG|thumb|Spike says "How."]]
*'''Bumble and Spike''' (Act 3, [[2001]])
**''Japanese ID Number'': '''5''' (painted) '''6''' (clear)

:[[Plastic|PVC]] figurines of Spike and [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] were sold together in the third act of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' series. Like all the figures in the wave, the pair were available as both regular full-color figures and clear plastic versions, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures. The full-color version of the set came packaged with the torso piece of the wave's Fortress Maximus "build-a-figure".

===''Heroes of Cybertron''===
*'''Autobot Espionage Team''' ([[2003]])

:''Super Collection Figure'' Spike and Bumblebee were later released by [[Hasbro]] as part of their ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line, sold under the name "Autobot Espionage Team," as Hasbro did not have the trademark rights to Bumblebee's name at this point in time. Unlike the blindpacked Japanese version, they were sold on an individual blister card, and came packaged with the right leg of the Fortress Maximus figure.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCSpike/spike.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Spike at TFU.info]''
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===''History Collection''===
[[File:TFhistorycollection spike.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Spike''' (2004)
:A PVC figurine of Spike was the rare [[chase figure]] of Takara's ''[[History Collection]]''. Spike was the only piece in the series who did not come with a circular "bottlecap" display base, instead, coming crouched on Optimus Prime's hand, from which he could be removed. Additionally, Prime's hand could plug into the wrist socket of the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|20th Anniversary/Masterpiece Optimus Prime]] figure.
::*''[http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act234/ More information on the History Collection at TFKenkon.com]''
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===''Brave-Goukin''===
[[File:BraveGoukin exosuit.jpg|thumb|upright=2.33]]
*'''Excel Suit''' (<s>2014</s>)

:A posable Exosuit toy was to be produced by [[CM's Corporation]] as part of their ''Brave-Goukin'' line, complete with vehicle mode and transforming arm blasters. It would have included static figures of Spike and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] who could be displayed separately or have their heads placed inside the suit, with alternate piloting heads included for the suit's vehicle mode. The Exosuit would also have come with a small figurine of [[Grand Galvatron]] and the [[Master Sword]] data disc from the ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[The Master Sword Is in Danger!!]]".

:This toy only made it as far as the painted [[prototype]] stage before CM's Corporation was forced to file for bankruptcy, leaving it unreleased.

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==Notes==
*Spike and Buster were both derived from the same "young male human friend" character in early backstory material. For more on the name variation see [[Butch Witwicky (G1)|Butch Witwicky]].
*Apparently Spike Witwicky is named after a person in real life! According to the [[BotCon 2010]] panel hosted by [[Bob Budiansky]], [[Jim Shooter]] (editor in-chief at [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] at the time) chose the name based on one of his real life friends. The name Witwicky had previously showed up in Marvel's ''Dazzler'' comics, as co-plotted by Shooter.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Spike Witwicky''' (スパイク・ウィトウィッキー ''Supaiku Witowikkī'')
*''English:'' '''Sparkle''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub)
*''French:'' '''La Flèche''' (Canada, "The Arrow")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Csuka''' (''The Movie'', "Pike")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Spike''' (斯派克 ''Sīpàikè'')
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Spys''' ("Spear")

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Tarantulas (BW)

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Stealthyboy:

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:''Tarantulas is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Tarantulasbw.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|[[BotCon 2000|"And fries! Lots of FRIES!"]]]]
'''Tarantulas''' is the scheming mad scientist of the Predacon crew. He's the type of mad scientist who experiments on living beings, cackling in his [[trademark]]ed laugh all the while, and then if things go wrong, happily eats what's left as his midday snack. The eating is what he was really looking forward to, anyway. It's this focused perversity that turns off even his fellow Predacons. Tarantulas's emotional detachment from their war also rubs his peers the wrong way. Fighting Maximals and following orders is just a required chore; his real passion is the unmentionable projects stashed in [[Tarantulas's lair|his "secret" lair]].

Nominally, Tarantulas was one of the Predacons to join [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] during his theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] and the search for [[Earth]]. In addition to being an utterly psychotic, sadistic sociopath, he has a record for treachery rivaled by few other Transformers. He is actually an [[Predacon Secret Police|agent]] of the [[Tripredacus Council]], which is trying to coax the Beast Wars toward an unspecified goal, where neither Autobot or Decepticon won the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. Who knows what other [[Unicron|dark secrets]] lie in his past.

If anything upsets Tarantulas, other than losing a potential meal, it's those pompous aliens who call themselves the [[Vok]]. He harbors a hatred for them strong enough to make him work to eliminate them by any means.

He can combine with the Tripredacus Council and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to form [[Predacus]]

Sometimes his name is spelled as '''Tarantulus'''. Sometimes he goes by the name '''Mesothulas'''.

{{bigquote|You're ''insane.''|[[Tigerhawk]]}}
{{bigquote|So they ''saa''-aay! Wbrrwbrrbbppth!|Tarantulas|"[[Other Victories]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Toy bios===
[[File:PrimalVSMegs-Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Why Megatron, I do believe you're trying to seduce m— oh, hey, [[Razorbeast]].]]
Tarantulas was a sneaky, mysterious ninja feared across the galaxy. A master of the martial arts, he was suspected in the disappearances of many [[Human|Earthlings]], and rumors swirled of giant cocoons where he stored his prey. {{storylink|#Toys|Tarantulas bio}}

Tarantulas was guarding the Predacons' jungle-based genetics lab along with Megatron and Waspinator. When the Maximals discovered them, he engaged [[Razorbeast]] in combat briefly before Megatron called retreat and destroyed the lab. {{storylink|Optimus Primal vs Megatron!}}

After the [[quantum surge]], Tarantulas became a [[Transmetal]], with the accompanying vehicle mode to match. With his new set of wheels, Tarantulas didn't have to rely on stealth and deceit as much, instead speeding head-first into battle and using his new mechanical beast mode to overpower his enemies. {{storylink|#Transmetal|Transmetal Tarantulas bio}}
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===Cartoon continuity===
====''Wings Universe''====
[[File:Tarantulasemerges-ACommonFoe.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
One of four mysterious protoforms found by [[Sky-Byte (G2)#Wings Universe|Sky-Byte]] in the laboratory of [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Wings Universe|Jhiaxus]] while trying to save his colleague's clones from the Autobots, {{storylink|A Common Foe}} Tarantulas and [[Tripredacus Council|the other three]] pledged allegiance to the Predacons in suspiciously quick time.<ref name="TFSS3bio">"Tarantulas is a being without a history. In his rush to remove Jhiaxus' clones from his laboratory before the Autobots discovered its location, Sky-Byte mistakenly extracted four stasis pods of unknown origin. The emergent robots immediately declared for the Predacon cause, some might say suspiciously quickly. Of the four robots, Tarantulas has since discovered an endless fascination with experimental science, especially seeking any opportunity for vivisection."</ref>
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====''Timelines''====
{{note|The events of "Dawn of Future's Past are also incorporated into the ''[[Transformers: Wings Universe|Wings Universe]]''.}}
[[File:TheftOfGoldenDisk-Tarantulas.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|What y'wanna do? Wanna be hackers? Code crackers? Slackers? Wastin' time with all the chatroom yakkers? WHAT?]]
Tarantulas decoded the information on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] which had been freshly stolen by Megatron. He thought this was quite hilarious, but then, he thinks that about everything. {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk}}

[[File:Tarantulasdawn.jpg|thumb|See? A Planet X key in the corner of the pic. He's working for Unicron! Get him!]]
As [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and his rogue band of Predacons escaped [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in their stolen ship, the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'', Tarantulas was in charge of scanning the disk for a desired set of coordinates. While Megatron was not watching, he was in secret communication with [[Cicadacon|General Cicadacon]] of the [[Tripredacus Council]].

Using the decoded coordinates, the ''Darksyde'' opened a [[transwarp]] portal, which it and the [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] passed through. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

Two weeks after [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] was reborn on [[Earth]], Tarantulas fought to defend an orbital weapon from the Maximals. The launching pad was destroyed by Airazor. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}}
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====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Alec Willows]] (English), [[Yūichi Nagashima]] (Japanese)|[[Hervé Joly]] (French), [[Lutz Harder]] (German), [[Riccardo Peroni]] (Italian), [[Junseok Song]] (Korean), [[Humberto Vélez]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Fábio Vilalonga]] (Portuguese)}}

Lieutenant Tarantulas of the [[Predacon Secret Police]] was one of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s original crew, a mole inside his organization feeding information back to the [[Tripredacus Council]] without his knowledge. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} More than that, he was a ''direct'' agent of the Council and shared their origins, with an overall agenda to alter the timeline by going back to prehistoric Earth and completely destroying the [[Ark (G1)|''Ark'' and the Transformers within]]. {{storylink|Other Victories}} The plan went tits up though, as Megatron's ''Darksyde'' warship ended up crashing on an unidentified planet and contact with Cybertron was lost. Tarantulas carried on as normal despite this setback.

[[File:TheWeb Tarantulas beast mode.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Not arachnophobic, eh? I can fix that.]]
As Megatron's technical leader, he manned the scanners to appropriate beast forms based on the most powerful local creatures, choosing the form of an over-sized spider for himself. He cheerfully took part in the first battle of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]], only to succumb to energon buildup while the Maximals were escaping. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} The Predacons uncovered a stash of energon crystals atop a mountain, but were forced to fight in their [[beast mode]]s. Tarantulas and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] fought in this manner until Megatron triggered a chain reaction which caused the energon to explode. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

[[File:ChainofCommand Tarantulas firing.jpg|thumb|upright=1.34|Sure, he's fast on the draw, but he ALWAYS shoots himself in the foot.]]
It wasn't long before Tarantulas had set up his own [[Tarantulas's lair|underground lair]] to keep his experiments away from Megatron's prying eyes. After helping [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] recover a mega-cannon, Tarantulas managed to capture [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], trapping the young Maximal in a web in his lair with the intent of feeding later. Rattrap mounted a rescue, during which the cavern caved in on Tarantulas {{storylink|The Web}} Tarantulas was blasted by Rattrap during the battle at the [[Standing Stones]], and later accompanied Megatron and [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] to attack the ''Axalon'' after it appeared that [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] had perished. After the Maximals got the ship's shields back up, he suggested to Megatron that they return to the Standing Stones. Unfortunately once there, the Maximals managed to retrieve Primal from the [[Vok probe|alien probe]] at the site, and Tarantulas was one of the first victims of the restored Maximal commander. {{storylink|Chain of Command (BW)|Chain of Command}}

Terrorsaur, his power boosted, defeated Megatron in combat before leaving Tarantulas in charge of the other Predacons. Tarantulas promptly tailed Terrorsaur to find out what his new power source was, and discovered it was a [[flying mountain]] topped with a cache of super energon. Before he could do anything with the knowledge, he encountered Rattrap, who'd come to destroy the mountain. Their fight ended with Tarantulas falling from the side of the mountain. {{storylink|Power Surge (episode)|Power Surge}} He subsequently took part in an attack on the Maximal base after a [[stasis pod]] crashed. While Megatron kept [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] distracted, Tarantulas and Scorponok ambushed the Maximal from behind. Unfortunately for them, Dinobot had time to activate the base defenses, and Tarantulas was blasted into the distance by the auto-guns. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}}

When the Predacons finally captured a stasis pod, Tarantulas made sure that the [[protoform]] was given a spider beast mode, creating [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Megatron suspected he had ulterior motives, but was nonetheless pleased by the new soldier. Tarantulas seemed happy to follow Terrorsaur when the Predacon mounted another takeover attempt with the aid of Rattrap, but spent most of his time skulking around the ''Darksyde'' in search of rats to eat. He spotted Rattrap sneaking around, but the Maximal blasted him before he could do anything. He subsequently limped back to the others to find that Megatron had reasserted his leadership. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}} After one of Scorponok's viruses turned Primal into a berserker, the Maximal leader broke into the Predacon base and, completely ignoring Tarantulas's attempts to stop him, pinned the spider to a wall using Tarantulas's own weapon. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}}

[[File:Tflocklens&tarantulas.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|"Behold my latest invention... THE DISCO BALL VERSION 2.0!"]]
One of Tarantulas's many inventions, the [[transformation lock lens]], was instrumental in preventing the Maximals from contacting a [[temporal probe]] doing a flyby of the planet. He used it to ensnare [[Tigatron]] and Cheetor, then wreaked havoc with the Maximals' attempts to build a communications array, before he was finally defeated by Primal. Although his new toy was destroyed by the recovered Cheetor and Tigatron, the damage was already done, and the probe flew by uncontacted. {{storylink|The Probe}} After the Predacons discovered a Maximal spy camera in their base, they faked a mutiny and hid in a crevice. Tarantulas spent his nights being hugged like a stuffed toy by [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], and his days eating stray rats. While the Maximals repaired the ''Axalon'', the Predacons were discovered by Dinobot, and gave chase. Though they attacked the Maximal ship in an attempt to capture it, the affair ended with the ''Axalon'' crashing back to the ground. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}} After a Maximal victory, largely due to the efforts of Rhinox, Tarantulas captured the rhino in a web on Megatron's orders, so that he could be converted into a Predacon by the [[Transmuter (BW)|Transmuter]]. In return, the new Predacon poisoned him and Blackarachnia. {{storylink|Dark Designs}}

[[File:Spider'sGame Taratulas hauling stasis pod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.45|Ever the engineer, Tarantulas invents the low-tech equivalent of a tow truck.]]
Tarantulas detected another stasis pod landing in [[Grid Scavos]], but Megatron refused to let him go and assist in the recovery, much to his disgust. {{storylink|The Spark}} The next time a stasis pod crashed, Tarantulas was more prepared. From his lair, he used a [[magna pulse]] to disable both the ''Darksyde'' and ''Axalon'' to allow him to investigate without interference. Unfortunately for him, Blackarachnia had found his lair, and insisted on coming along to help. At the pod, Tarantulas reprogrammed the new arrival into a Predacon, but was disappointed that a beast mode had already been chosen, and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] would not be another spider. In the confusion that followed, he made off with the real prize — the stasis pod itself. Unfortunately for him, Tigatron destroyed the pod before he could get very far, and he was forced to retreat when Megatron arrived. Later, in his lair, he inadvertently told Blackarachnia that the planet was doomed, and she realized he was intending to build an escape ship, however he threw her out before she could work out any more of his plans. {{storylink|Spider's Game}}

Tarantulas took part in a diversionary attack while Waspinator and Terrorsaur stole the Maximals' [[rectifier coil]]. After the Maximals went feral, the Predacons mounted a hunting expedition, though Tarantulas was stuck supporting the back end of Megatron's chair. {{storylink|Call of the Wild}} On another occasion, Tarantulas detected what appeared to be walking energon. Megatron realized that an earlier battle had left four of the Maximals contaminated and blinded, and ordered Tarantulas to send Terrorsaur to investigate. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}} After Waspinator was possessed by the ghost of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], Tarantulas took part in the attack on the ''Axalon'', and pointed out once they'd conquered it that their own base was now undefended. Megatron's answer was to leave Starscream in charge of the ''Axalon'', a decision which would come back to bite him later. {{storylink|Possession}}

[[File:Dinobottarantulasrattrapthelowroad.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.34|"See? I told you I was taller than Tarantulas."]]
During an attack on the Maximal base, Tarantulas was able to infect Rhinox with an [[energon discharge virus]], though he himself was injured by Dinobot during the retreat. He was tracked by Dinobot and Rattrap, but eventually turned the tables by getting the drop on them, only to be flattened by a huge boulder. After recovering, he took advantage of their incessant arguing by trying to get the drop on them again, only to be knocked unconscious by a double punch. Finally, Dinobot attempted to use Tarantulas's body as a hostage, only for Megatron to blast it aside. Perhaps his only consolation was that he avoided the indignity of the fate that befell the rest of the Predacons. {{storylink|The Low Road}}

With the return of the [[Vok|aliens]] a certainty, Tarantulas stole a [[transwarp cell]] from the ''Darksyde'', slagging Waspinator in the process. Megatron detected the theft and used Blackarachnia as a distraction while he remotely inserted his own programming into the cell. The two spiders later took part in an attempt to prevent Tigatron from escaping the Predacon base, and were squished by a boulder Dinobot had set up. They were relatively uninjured and able to haul their damaged comrades back to the ship. {{storylink|Before the Storm}} The two spiders teamed up again, infiltrating the Maximal base and disabling Rhinox and Dinobot while the other Maximals were busy with the latest alien construct to appear. They became aware that the planet's second moon had just been revealed as an artificial, alien ''doomsday weapon'' in disguise, with Tarantulas remarking it was "the beginning of the end" for the planet. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} In the cargo hold, Tarantulas used the transwarp cell and a stasis pod to construct a ship, but was interrupted by Inferno, who torched the spider. Fortunately, Blackarachnia entered Tarantulas's mind to obtain the information to complete the escape ship, and he was able to set up a permanent neural link between the two Predacons. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

[[File:ComingFuzors1 Tarantulas lives.jpg|thumb|upright=1.55|A new look, and he didn't even have to [[Spider-Man|sell out]] to [[Iron Man|Tony Stark]] for it!]]
When the [[quantum surge]] caused by the "second moon's" destruction knocked out all of the Transformers on the planet, Tarantulas's body was upgraded to a [[Transmetal]] form, and he forced Blackarachnia to drag it from the Maximal base, even getting her to ignore Megatron's command to stay and fight the Maximals. {{storylink|Aftermath}} With Blackarachnia's hard work and some serious-looking electrical arc generators, Tarantulas was restored to life. Megatron soon called him to the battlefield, so he left Blackarachnia to root around in their leader's computer files: by this point, the loss of the "moon" and the damages to the planet had revealed it to be ''prehistoric Earth'' all along... {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}}

Using his new cycle mode, Tarantulas quickly reached the Maximals' position. During the fight, he kept in contact with her, until a shot by Dinobot put him temporarily out of commission. After he came around, Blackarachnia reported that she'd failed to get the data he needed. The Predacons were soon routed by the resurrection of Optimus Primal, and forced to return to base. There, Megatron and Tarantulas questioned Blackarachnia, only to be told the vital data had been lost. Neither of them believed her, but didn't call her out. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

With his old lair destroyed by the Planet Buster, Tarantulas was fortuitous in that Megatron assigned him with Blackarachnia and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] to check out a cave filled with energon. He quickly surmised that it would make an excellent new lair, and attempted to get his two comrades interested in going it alone. Blackarachnia was more interested in getting rid of the neural link the two of them shared, and cracked an energon crystal, sending feedback through the link, to force him to sever it. By a fortunate coincidence, the three Predacons were soon attacked by [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and Rattrap, and during the battle Tarantulas was able to convincingly fake the destruction of the cave, allowing him to utilize it as his own lair. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} When Dinobot defected to the Predacon side, Tarantulas offered to verify his programming, but Megatron decided it wouldn't be a very good idea to let Tarantulas into Dinobot's processor. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}}

[[File:OtherVisits1 Tarantulas beast mode.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|Downside: everything tastes like feet now.]]
Back in his lair, Tarantulas's instruments detected the aliens again, and he rushed off to the site. He arrived shortly after Tigatron and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] had been abducted, and zapped Cheetor, but was forced to retreat when more Maximals arrived. He visited Megatron, claiming to no longer be under the tyrant's command, but willing to help. The Predacons returned to the alien site to set up equipment, during which Blackarachnia revealed that she had learned through the broken neural link that Tarantulas hated the aliens. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} Megatron, Quickstrike, and Tarantulas recovered quickly from the energy wave put out by the new [[Metal Hunter|alien construct]], and after Tarantulas's [[refractive web]] was activated, the trio ventured inside. Once Megatron had control of the construct, he terminated his alliance with Tarantulas, dropping the Predacon from a great height. Infuriated, Tarantulas helped the Maximals attack the construct, infiltrating it along with Rattrap, and sabotaging the transwarp cells which Megatron installed, causing the ship to explode. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

Though a bug planted on Megatron's chair, Tarantulas learned that Blackarachnia had been sent to recover a new protoform, and took the opportunity to threaten her to try and extract the information he suspected she'd gained from Megatron's computers. Unfortunately for him, Silverbolt stepped in and defended Blackarachnia, shortly before an energon explosion separated everyone. Though Tarantulas found the stasis pod, [[Rampage (BW)|its contents]] found him, and his body parts were spread liberally over a wide area. {{storylink|Bad Spark}} Dinobot later tracked down Tarantulas in an attempt to find out what Megatron's latest scheme was. Though Tarantulas didn't know, Dinobot forced him to act as transport, and they soon found Megatron preparing to torch a valley fill of [[Protohuman]]s. Tarantulas took advantage of Dinobot's distraction to shoot the Maximal, only for Dinobot to drop a boulder on him. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

[[File:Agenda3 Tarantulas button push.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Tarantulas presses the History Eraser Button.]]
Alerted by the [[transwarp wavefront]], the Tripredacus Council sent covert agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to capture Megatron. The former Decepticon led the Maximals to apprehend Megatron, and Tarantulas assisted by taking down the ''Darksyde''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> defense system. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} Megatron, much to his indignation, was later informed by Ravage that the spider was a lieutenant in the Predacon Secret Police; Tarantulas joined in the diss by laughing over a comm-screen at his former boss. Tarantulas was able to instruct the Maximals in the location of a stash of energon crystals that Megatron had hidden. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} When Ravage was persuaded to change sides by the Predacon leader, Tarantulas appeared to come too, manning the [[transwarp cruiser]]'s weapons systems for an attack on the ''Axalon''. Alas, Rattrap chewed his way into the ship and tossed a couple of [[Fusion weaponry#Fusion grenade|bomb]]s at Tarantulas, which stuck to his hands before exploding. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

Tarantulas survived, though, and was quickly put back together by his [[arachnoid]]s. He was repaired in time to witness the destruction of the ''Axalon''. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}} He was soon seen back at the Predacon base, working under Megatron's command once again with no mention of his former secession. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}} However, around this time he was also working on another scheme: restoring the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', the flagship of the [[Decepticon]] fleet! At some point, he'd found it lying at the bottom of the ocean, and was ensuring it would not only fly again but had a Predacon control console and a transwarp cell that could take it back to Cybertron... {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

He battled the Maximals alongside Megatron's [[cyber raptor]]s, taking the opportunity to try out his new Transmetal [[cyber venom]] to great success, though he was stomped on by a cyber raptor once the Maximals worked out how to destroy their controls. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}} He assisted in the construction of Megatron's [[disruptor cannon]], suggesting that they abduct an early human to complete the device when the other Predacons were unable to get too close to it due to the unstable power source. While the cannon was completed by [[Una]], she managed to use her knowledge of levers to tip a piece of heavy equipment on him. Though he survived that, Una had taken the cannon's stablizer crystal, and it exploded in the Predacons' faces when they tried to use it. {{storylink|Go with the Flow}}

[[File:CrossingRubicon Tarantulas fires on Silverbolt.jpg|thumb|left|260px]]
When the Maximals attempted to remove Blackarachnia's shell program, he revealed to Megatron that he had included "certain safeguards" that guaranteed she would not survive, and joined the other Predacons in an attack on the Maximals that was meant to disrupt the attempted shell removal. He fired the missile which knocked the Maximals' power off-line at a crucial instant, seemingly bringing an end to his "treacherous creation". Enraged by the death of his beloved, [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] attempted to kill the scientist, but was thwarted by [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]], who was later defeated by a revived—and [[Transmetal]]ized—Blackarachnia. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}

Tarantulas participated in the Predacons' next attempt to retake the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], utilising his latest invention to allow Quickstrike to take control of Optimus Primal... and ''that'' was when he made his move, at last. He manipulated [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] into throwing Megatron into the nearby lava while he himself set the Ark's engines to overload. Megatron survived his lava-dunking, gaining a new body in the process. However, he had lost his patience. While he'd tolerated Tarantulas's treachery, he could not tolerate incompetence. Tarantulas survived his punishment and fled back to his lair. {{storylink|Master Blaster}} This appears to have ''not'' been what Quickstrike thought he was going to do, and neither he nor Megatron had any idea why he'd planned to destroy the whole Ark.

[[File:TarantulasVok SignOfTheCross.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Save me, X-Men!"]]
Tarantulas was left ranting in his lair about how the Tripredacus Council's plans were wrecked, while his systems monitored the ''Nemesis'' (which was finished by this point). However, his rant and Nemesis plans were interrupted when the aliens—now revealed to be called the [[Vok]]—sent their emissary [[Tigerhawk]] arrived on Earth. Tarantulas let him take out the Predacons, then used his arachnoids to disable and capture him. Tarantulas intended to force the all-powerful being into his servitude by drawing the Vok influences out of his body and reprogramming him, and then have him obliterate the Ark: he cheerfully told the emissary that as he nor the Council had Autobot or Decepticon origins, they'd survive the resulting timestorm, turn Cybertron into a universe-conquering force, and one day even conquer the Vok themselves!

The scheme backfired, however, as his energy beam device expelled two ''actual Vok'' out of Tigerhawk. The formless spectres attempted to take over Tarantulas' body. Panicking, he made a religious sign to ward them off and then opened fire on them—a futile gesture that merely served to spin the energy device around 'til its rays were blasting him and his lab equipment. Overloaded by the beams, Tarantulas exploded, leaving nothing behind but his boots. The remainder of his equipment detonated seconds later, blowing the lair to rubble. Cheetor managed to rescue the inert Tigerhawk, and Tarantulas was presumed destroyed. {{storylink|Other Victories}}

Megatron knew that Tarantulas must have had some schemes on the go that the Predacons could pick up and use, and had his men search the ruins of the spider's lair. During this, he offhandedly referred to him as "[[Unicron's Spawn]]". He ended up discovering and using the working ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}
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====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
When Tarantulas was born at the [[Pit (facility)|Pit]], a glitch in the process granted him insight into the fact that an alien force was manipulating the Predacons for its ends. Thus, Tarantulas became obsessed with whatever this force was, later discovering it to be the Vok while he was on Earth. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #4}}

Tarantulas programmed the Predacons' mobile fortress, the [[Arachnid]], utilizing his own personality programs to give it some form of sentience, accompanied by Tarantulas's own tendency for cruelty. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #1}}

While [[Magmatron]] surveyed the timestream, he witnessed several key events during the Beast Wars. Among these was Tarantulas in his original "beast" body skulking in his lair. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

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====3H comics====
Tarantulas was the inventor of the [[mind-drill]]. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] "borrowed" it from him to get information out of [[Antagony (BW)|Antagony]]. {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Herald}}

[[File:Primevaldawn2 tarantulas matrix.jpg|thumb|Further proving the maxim: "If you want to steal the Matrix, you basically can."]]
Following the Beast Wars, Tarantulas's body returned to life, reanimated by the Vok powers he'd previously absorbed. The undead Tarantulas, along with a rebuilt Ravage (as [[Ravage (G1)|Tripredacus Agent]]), nurtured new troops to life through enigmatic means, growing [[Razorclaw (BW)|Razorclaw]] and [[Iguanus (BW)|Iguanus]] in tubes. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 1}} {{storylink|Primeval Dawn II}}

The remaining Vok anticipated Tarantulas's plan to destroy the rest of them, take their power, and fashion the timestream to his desires, and so they assembled an army of their own consisting of [[Primal Prime]], [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]], and [[Tigatron]]. Tarantulas met this opposition in battle, overwhelmed them, and triumphantly ripped the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Primal Prime's chest. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 2}}

Wounded critically, the Maximals withdrew to the Ark, while Tarantulas and his Predacons returned to his lair, where he directed them in the construction of a transwarp portal. Upon completion, Tarantulas planned to bring his stolen prize to his master, Unicron. Since his troops were getting restless, he promised them they could assault the Ark once they finished construction. Tarantulas was true to his word, and as Ravage led the Predacons against the Maximals, Unicron's spawn tried to stabilize the portal and prepared the Matrix for transport. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 3}}

{{note|[[3H Productions]] dissolved before this storyline could be completed. Based on the subsequent ''Wreckers'' and ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]'' storylines, it can be assumed that the Matrix of Leadership was restored to Optimus Prime's body at the end of this altercation, the Maximals were triumphant and used Tarantulas's portal to return home to Cybertron, and that Tarantulas somehow fled to Unicron.}}

[[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]] claims he showed up at the last second to help win the battle but only refers to Ravage being there, not Tarantulas. {{storylink|Ask_Vector_Prime/Sideways_src#July_6.2C_2015|Ask Sideways, 6/6/2015}}

After using the [[Divine Light]] to access [[Primus]]'s power, [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]] reanimated several [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] corpses into facsimiles of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s old subordinates, including one of Tarantulas. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

[[File:Escape-Tarantulas.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Tarantulus {{sic}} basically just never dies.]]

A year after the [[Great Reformatting]], the [[Unicron virus|influence]] of [[Unicron]] swayed an abducted [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] to the side of darkness. As she was escorted by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Reptilion]] into the heart of the Chaos Bringer, she was surprised to see Tarantulas (still in his undead body) greet her as she joined the ranks of the [[Minion of Unicron|Minions of Unicron]]. She hissed with disgust while Tarantulas noted that it was just like old times. {{storylink|Escape (Universe)|Escape}}

Tarantulas had learned that [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] had been assembling the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] to counter Unicron's Minions, and so he sent Blackarachnia on a mission to her home [[Primax 797.18 Epsilon]] Cybertron to sever the link between the Transformers and [[Primus]] by invading [[Vector Sigma]]'s chamber and destroying Alpha Trion. He gave Blackarachnia a swarm of [[Piranacon (Universe)|Piranacon]]s and directions to the chamber through a structural weakpoint near the [[Rust Sea]]. {{storylink|Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming}}
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====A Meeting of Minds====
The [[Megatron (G1)|original Megatron]], now inside the mind of [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] after the latter planted the former's spark inside his body, berated the Predacon leader's failures—in particular, being led astray time and again by such treacherous subordinates as Tarantulas. {{storylink|A Meeting of Minds}}

====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
=====Yokohama Decepticon Secret Base=====
[[File:Yokohama Unicron Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|100px]]
As part of a plot to destroy the [[2014]] [[Transformers Expo]] in [[Yokohama]] and the Cybertronian artifacts within, Taratulas, working on [[Unicron]]'s behalf, secretly granted [[Predacon computer|NAVI-ko]] a new body and intelligence regarding [[Yokohama Convoy|Nemesis Prime]]. True to plan, NAVI-ko was sent to activate the clone and guide him to the Transformers Expo. However, thanks to Nemesis Prime's inherent sense of justice, the plan failed. {{storylink|Yokohama Decepticon Secret Base}}

=====''Cloud''=====
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=====''Beast Wars Diorama Story''=====
[[File:BWDiorama Motorarm Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|left|A ravenous, sinister fiend... and Tarantulas.]]
Sometime after Starscream's arrival to prehistoric Earth, Tarantulas was confronted in battle by a time-displaced [[Motorarm (BWII)|Motorarm]], who fended off the Predacon with his Beetle Claw attack. Tarantulas was not present when the Autobots from [[Movie (franchise)|another universe]] and Maximals combined all of their energies to attack a team of Predacons and Decepticons. {{storylink|Motorarm Chapter}}
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====Ask Vector Prime====
In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Tarantulas joined [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspscream]]'s successful coup against Megatron. Waspscream then convinced Tarantulas to decode Megatron's Golden Disk by promising to make Tarantulas his lieutenant upon returning to Cybertron and deposing the Tripredacus Council. Unfortunately en route, Megatron escaped, conquered Cybertron with a [[transformation virus]], and turned the bodies of Cybertron's populace into [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]]s. Upon arrival, Waspscream's crewmembers who had [[transmetal]] forms managed to survive the virus and escape Megatron's clutches, eventually finding their way to the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], who granted them [[technorganic]] forms. Waspscream's Predacons waged a valiant Spark War against the Vehicons, eventually achieving victory. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}}

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
[[File:TarantulasMangaMouth01.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Tarantulas raises an army of mannequins to strike terror into his foes.]]

Following the [[Quantum surge]], Tarantulas was upgraded into a [[Transmetal]]. Scheming with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] within their floating island base, [[Hindenburg]], Tarantulas developed a plan to revive the deceased [[Optimus Primal]] as a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] slave. Recovering Primal's mindless, raging body, Tarantulas staged a strange voodoo ceremony (complete with boiling cauldron). As Megatron pricked his finger and prepared to use his mutated blood to turn Primal's rampaging body into his slave, the spark of Optimus Primal returned to it just in the nick of time. As Primal turned into a Transmetal, Tarantulas began to celebrate, convinced that his plan had worked out better than he had thought, unaware of what was really going on. In fact, he was ''so'' convinced that Primal was now a Predacon slave, that he ordered the monkey to give him a shoulder massage. Optimus Primal proceeded to knock Tarantulas's block off. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 1|Beast Wars Metals #1}}

Tarantulas pulled himself together and confronted Tigatron, only to be promptly sliced in half. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 2|Beast Wars Metals #2}}

Undeterred, he taped himself back together and planted an [[arachnoid]] in Tigatron which gave Tarantulas control of the Maximal samurai's mind and body. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 3|Beast Wars Metals #3}} Airazor linked her mind to Tigatron's in an attempt to free her beloved and while her body fought Tigatron, Airazor's consciousness fought Tarantulas and his virtual minions. Ultimately, with Blackarachnia's help, Tigatron's mind was freed, though Airazor died in the process, killed by the mind-controlled Tigatron. Optimus Primal arrived and promptly stomped Tarantulas to death and blew his body to pieces. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 4|Beast Wars Metals #4}}

Shortly afterward, the energies from sparks freed from an obliterated [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] brought Tarantulas back to life as a mindless zombie. He fought Optimus Primal but was destroyed for good by Primal's rocket-fists. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 5|Beast Wars Metals #5}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
When [[human]] archaeologists uncovered a cave filled with primitive language, [[Mini-Con]] [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] translated it for them. The markings told of a time when the Maximals and Predacons crash-landed on prehistoric Earth, though the stranded Transformers were seen by the protohumans as gods. The "spider-god" and the "[[Waspinator (BW)|wasp-god]]," under instruction from their leader, enslaved the humans for the purposes of excavating "glowing rose crystals." Eventually, the Maximals came and freed the humans. {{storylink|Fire in the Dark}}

===''Transformers Legends'' comic===
Tarantulas sneakily browsed the toys for sale at [[Transformers Celebration 2014]]. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (comic)#Transformers Celebration 2014|Transformers Celebration 2014}}

===''Hot Shot's Bot Thoughts''===
Tarantulas was interviewed by [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Shotimus Prime]], who seemed determined to prove that Tarantulas was also [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]. Tarantulas eventually resorted to pulling the Matrix out of Shotimus's chest, reverting him to Hot Shot, and then hitting him repeatedly with it. {{storylink|Hot Shot's Bot Thoughts}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
To the best of [[Vector Prime]]'s knowledge, Tarantulas and [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]] did not think of themselves as relatives. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 15/5/2015}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:SinsoftheWreckers3-Mesothulas.jpg|left|thumb|250px|''But then one day he went to that science lab''<br> ''That mutated spider came down'']]

Mesothulas was a non-affiliated scientist who covertly worked for [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] during the early stages of the Autobot/Decepticon war. Mesothulas saw their relationship as symbiotic—Prowl's imagination would feed into Mesothulas's desire to make the impossible real, and vice versa. Their partnership resulted in many frightening advancements, such as [[stasis bullet]]s, [[spark extraction]], [[Decepti-bomb]]s, and [[Aequitas]] itself. What he considered his greatest success, however, was the creation of artificial Transformer life—[[Ostaros]]. However, Prowl eventually began to have very strong doubts about the ethics involved with Mesothulas's weaponized inventions and ended up hurling Mesothulas into his latest creation, the [[Noisemaze]], to spare his own conscience.

Mesothulas was prepared for such an occurrence, though, having a personal jumpgate built into his body. Even still, the disorienting effects of the Noisemaze made it centuries before Mesothulas could remember and put it to use. Returning to his lab to find it empty, Mesothulas decided to follow where [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]] trode and went to [[Earth]]. There, he found and refined a sample of [[Ore-13|Ultra-Energon]] into [[obtentum]], which he would use to power his future machinations. Inspired by the native wildlife, Mesothulas developed [[Chimeracon|perfect bio-disguises]] which nearly completely masked a Cybertronian's presence. One creature in particular, the spider, attracted Mesothulas's attention, and he underwent the change to gain a tarantula form, renaming himself "Tarantulas".

[[File:SinsoftheWreckers3-Tarantulasspider.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''Oh, and now Meso crawls over everyone's walls'' <br> ''And he's swingin' all over town'']]

Needing muscle, Tarantulas became the patron of the anarchist group, [[Mayhem Attack Squad|Mayhem]], suppling them with bio-disguises, and built a laboratory complex, the [[Tor]], within the Noisemaze. He also acquired a mole within the [[Autobot]] ranks, [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]], whose skills let Tarantulas uncover Prowl's secrets, including the data containing Aequitas's proclamations. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3|Sins of the Wreckers #3}}

After the end of the war, Prowl was abducted by Mayhem and found himself in the Noisemaze, greeted by Tarantulas. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 1|Sins of the Wreckers #1}} Tarantulas suspended Prowl in his webs and presented Aequitas trial data, stolen from [[Verity Carlo]], as collateral for an open conversation between the two. {{Storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 2|Sins of the Wreckers #2}} With the greatest of anticipation, Tarantulas unveiled his new form to Prowl, who was horrified at his old collaborator's metamorphosis. Prowl suspected Tarantulas intended to use the war crimes data from Aequitas to simply blackmail him, but Tarantulas had more complex desires. Honestly, Tarantulas merely wished to work with Prowl again, to recreate the symbiosis of their original possibly-more-than-professional relationship. When Prowl still refused, he was placed in the company of his would-be rescuers: Verity, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]], and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], their most shameful, damning thoughts opened bare to him thanks to Tarantulas's new invention, [[Impetus]]. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3|Sins of the Wreckers #3}}
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==Games==
===''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game continuity===
====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game comic====
[[File:BWgameUK-Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|Some great dialog there, Tarry.]]
Upon arriving on prehistoric Earth, the dangers of Energon radiation forced the Maximals and Predacons to take on beast alternate forms. Tarantulas picked up a tarantula in his palm and scanned it. Soon, Tarantulas spotted [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] moving in on the Predacons' crash site. Swearing revenge, Tarantulas transformed and attacked, and threatened to skin the Maximal alive. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic}}

====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game====
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[[File:BeastWarsPSX-Tarantulasstats.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|Sadly, there's no Eat Cheetor level.]]

Many Beast Wars combatants had managed to construct personal bases, customized to their personal tastes, due to the extended duration of the war. Tarantulas still preferred to operate out of a dark, underground lair. Tarantulas joined his fellow Predacons in battling not only the persistent Maximal resistance, but the interdimensional monsters known as the [[Skriix]].

=====Maximal campaign=====
After [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had expanded his own personal base too close to Tarantulas's own territory, creating an opening for the Predacon to infiltrate Rhinox's personal metropolis. Tarantulas overtook Rhinox's base and reprogrammed its defenses, prompting the Maximals to retake it. The Maximal's offensive push forced Tarantulas to retreat deeper and deeper into the annexed territory, until he finally returned to his own lair. While he was in control of Rhinox's forces, however, Tarantulas had gained access to sensitive information, prompting the Maximals to follow Tarantulas back to his hide-out, and eliminate him once and for all.

=====Predacon campaign=====
Rhinox's expansion into Tarantulas's territory allowed the Predacons to infiltrate the Maximal's "Urban Area" and eliminate Rhinox. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|Beast Wars: Transformers}}

{{Note|Due to the nature of this game, a player may select various individual characters to perform the feats required in every level, and complete the game's narrative. Thus, any playable Maximal can fill the role of protagonist in Maximal Mode, and any playable Predacon can fill the role of protagonist in Predacon Mode. The various feats Tarantulas can accomplish throughout gameplay in Predacon Mode as the story protagonist are described on the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|''Beast Wars'' video game]] page.}}

===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (N64)===
[[File:N64Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Arboreal Camouflage Tarantulas? Blue Crusader Tarantulas?]]
{{voiceactor|[[Alec Willows]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}

Tarantulas found a way to escape prehistoric Earth and return to Cybertron. The Beast Wars progressed in his absence for a time...

[[File:N64 Tarantulus.jpg|frame|left|Player 2 Has Entered His Stomach. Continue?]]
Then he came back, newly promoted and with an armada of Transwarp battleships under his command, out to end the Beast Wars and enforce the Tripredacus Council's will... {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)}}
{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Tarantulas's fate in those outcomes.}}

===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (PS)===
{{voiceactor|[[Alec Willows]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}
{{Storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (PS)}}
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===''Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars''===
[[File:DuelFight Tarantulas.gif|thumb|upright=1.1]]
Megatron was capable of summoning Tarantulas forth to the battlefield during his attempts to acquire the super-powerful [[energon crystal]]. {{storylink|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars}}
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===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsTarantulas.jpg|thumb|400px|]]
Tarantulas participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He appeared in three different bodies:
*''Tarantulas'' — This Super Rare character could be recruited by collecting 10 cores of this character.
*''Tarantulas Transmetal'' — This Super Rare character was available to 2500 players during the second event of the Transmetals: Episode 3 mini events.
*''Tarantulas (Timelines)'' — This Epic Character was available in the August 2015 daily campaign. He could be recruited for 20 Alpha cores, 20 Beta cores, 20 Omega cores, and 10 cores of this character. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[File:BWtoy-Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Interested in getting hog-tied with spider-butt rope? Running is the only 'no' available.]]
*'''Tarantulas''' (Deluxe, 1996/1997)
** ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-4'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 4 spider-leg missiles

: Part of the first wave of [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Wars'' product]], Tarantulas transforms into an organic generic spider (''not'' a tarantula). His abdomen contains a spring-loaded missile launcher, which fires the anchor-missile kept in his spider-butt. This missile is attached by a string so he can hang from things like a real spider. The launcher can be removed and used as a [[robot mode]] weapon, using any of his front four spider-legs as missiles. Like all early Deluxe-and-up ''Beast Wars'' toys, he has two different robot mode "heads"; a robotic face and a "mutant" face. He is almost always depicted using the mutant face.

: There is a variation of this toy in the [[Hasbro]] line: Later releases (the smooth bubble) lack the yellow paint on his elbows.

: The [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] release of Tarantulas was originally identical to the Hasbro release. Later, a slightly color-altered version was released, using a brighter shade of green and a slightly darker gray. The color-altered version also replaced the blue eyes on the "robot" head and the black eyes of the "mutant" head with gold.

: This mold was used to make the first [[Blackarachnia (BW)#Toys|Blackarachnia toy]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Tarantulas/tarantulas.htm More information on Tarantulas at TFU.info]''

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[[File:VS4-DinobotTarantuas.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The classic battle of dino vs spider. We've all heard the tale.]]
*'''Brutal Showdown: Dinobot VS Tarans''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-4'''
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, 4 spider-leg missiles

: In Japan, "Tarans" was available both as an individual and in a two-pack with "[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]". Both toys in this set were identical to their individual releases.

: Currently, it is unknown if the latter "more show-like" redeco of Tarantulas was ever released in a VS set.

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[[File:BWtoy-TarantulasTransmetal.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I'm-a spawn of-a Unicron! I-a slice-a ya pizza!]]
*'''Tarantulas''' (Deluxe Transmetal, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-44'''
**''Accessories'': Sawblade weapon

: Part of the first assortment of Deluxe [[Transmetal]]s, Tarantulas transforms into a robotic spider. He also has a third "transport" mode, flipping down a wheel from his abdomen and a saw-blade from under his beast-head, making a spidey-cycle. The saw detaches for robot mode to become a hand-held weapon.

: The Japanese version is slightly different, replacing the "TARANTULAS" [[tampograph]] with "DESTRON" and the Predacon sigil, plus his robot mode eyes are painted as a single visor to match the show look better.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Predacon/Tarantulas/tarantulas.htm More information on Transmetal Tarantulas at TFU.info]''

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[[File:Tarantulas-FKTM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|It's like Eight Legged Freaks, but classier, and with a pizza slicer.]]
*'''Tarantulas''' (Deluxe "Fox Kids" Transmetal, 1999)
**''Accessories'': Sawblade weapon

: A [[redeco]] of the Transmetal Tarantulas toy in grays, silver, and black. He and a Transmetal [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]] redeco were part of the "[[Fox Kids]]" toys, so called for the advertisements for the Fox channel on the packaging (as the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] had moved there from syndication). Internal Hasbro documents have listed this toy as "Steel Force Tarantulas",<ref>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.toys.transformers/C30fV9dqOK0/gPO8D3N_PAUJ</ref> a name that did not make it to final packaging.

: These colors were used to depict Tarantulas in the ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' and [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|''Universe'' comics]]. This toy was also later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as Tarantulas's [[Tarantulas (BWSG)|''Shattered Glass'' counterpart]]. With the toy's limited availability, secondary-market pricing for this item due to its fictional use has gone up.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Predacon/FKTMTarantulas/tarantulas.htm More information on Fox Kids Tarantulas at TFU.info]''

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===MicroVerse===
[[File:Tarantulas-Microverse.jpg|100px|thumb|I'm not [[Fantastic Four|The]] [[Thing]], I swear!]]
*'''Orcanoch''' ([[MicroVerse]], 1997)

: A small, non-transforming micro-figure of Tarantulas came with the [[MicroVerse]] [[Orcanoch]] playset. It was presumably painted based on the original design, as its upper body is copper rather than purple. Its only articulation is at the waist, letting it sit in any of the MicroVerse mini-vehicles or playset stations.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Orcanoch/orcanoch.htm More information on MicroVerse Tarantulas (via Orchanoch) at TFU.info]

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===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[File:BWXtoy-Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|He's not here to help assemble Transmutate. That leg's his dinner.]]
*'''Predacon Tarantulus''' (Deluxe, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, 4 spider-leg missiles

:This toy is a slight [[redeco]] of the original Tarantulas toy, more closely resembling Tarantulas's appearance in the cartoon (save the big Predacon faction sigil tampograph). Part of the second wave of [[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|''Beast Wars'' 10th Anniversary product]], he came with a DVD of the episode "[[Spider's Game]]," plus the left leg to [[Transmutate (character)|Trans-Mutate]].

:This release of Tarantulus has [[Misassembly|misassembled]] forearm/claws, which can be easily swapped to the correct position due to the [[ball joint]]ed elbows.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/PredaconTarantulas/predacontarantulas.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Tarantulas at TFU.info]''

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===Timelines===
[[File:Timelinestoy-TarantulasDOFP.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Everyone's second-favorite purple-and-yellow motorcycle two-Mini-Con-having servant of Unicron.]]
*'''Tarantulas''' (2015)
:Tarantulas is a redeco of ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]], itself a retool of ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] with a new head. He turns into a motorcycle. The toy is meant to represent his pre-Beast Wars appearance. The toy also comes with two [[Arachnoid]]s that can be pegged into his left and right arms.

[[File:Timelinestoy-TarantulasDOFPslideshow.jpg|left|thumb|150px|]]
:When first revealed at [[BotCon 2014|BotCon 2014]], the toy's color was different from the final release's appearance. The toy was lighter colored (including the Arachnoids!), his mouthplate was green, and his arms were entirely colored green, among many other differences.

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===Combiner Wars===
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[[File:Timelines botcon tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|*Insert Spider-tank related caption here*]]
*'''Dawn of the Predacus''' ([[BotCon 2016]] box set)
**''Accessories'': Claw weapon, Combiner Foot/Hand

:A [[retool]] of ''[[Combiner Wars]]'' [[Rook (Generations)#Generations|Rook]], Predacon Taratulas features a new spider-esque head. As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe limb he is able to combine with any Voyager Class toys released as part of the same subline but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sea Clamp, Cicadacon, Ram Horn, and Ravage to create [[Predacus]].

:Rather than 5mm hands, Tarantulas has forward-facing 5mm ports in front of his fists. This allows him to mount his claw-like accessory as an integrated weapon or use Combiner Wars combiner hands (one of which is included) as giant "Hulk hands".

:He was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2016]] in the "Dawn of the Predacus" box set with [[Ravage (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Ravage]], [[Ram Horn#Combiner Wars|Ramhorn]], [[Cicadacon#Combiner Wars|Cicadacon]], and [[Sea Clamp#Combiner Wars|Sea Clamp]].
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==Merchandise==
[[File:Tarantulasmutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
* '''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Tarantulas was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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===Robot Heroes===
[[File:Robotheroestarantulasprimal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Don't take your eyes off your mech fluid, Primal.]]
*'''Optimus Primal vs Predacon Tarantulas''' (2008)

: Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this PVC figurine of Tarantulas' original body has articulation in the shoulders and neck. He was available only in a "Beast Wars Series" two-pack with [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]] (amusingly enough, the [[Maximal]] he also came with in the ''[[MicroVerse]]'' [[Orcanoch]] playset).

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Predacon/RHTarantulas/tarantulas.htm More information on Robot Heroes Tarantulas at TFU.info]''

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==Notes==
[[File:BWcommercial-Tarantulas.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Not terribly appealing.]]
* Tarantulas is referred to as simply "Tarantula" in the [[commercial]] advertising his toy. This commercial and also early promotional pictures showed the original Tarantulas toy as being transparent orange, but the final toy was a clear deep purple instead. Presumably, this was for a little visual variety in the early line, which already had a largely tan toy ([[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]) and a largely yellow toy ([[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]]) in the Deluxe range, plus a Mega-sized Predacon arachnid then planned to be orange ([[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]), and [[Tigatron]], who was at one point slated to be a traditional orange tiger.
[[File:TarantulasArm.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|He tastes everything he holds.]]
* In the original control art for Tarantulas, the claws are shown in the same configuration as used in the show. In other words, the claws were somehow swapped during the assembly process and have remained as such on every version of the mold thereafter.
* The original Tarantulas toy has ''nine'' eyes in [[beast mode]], as does the show model. This makes characters' references to him as "eight-eyes" rather... interesting.
* Tarantulas's toy bios paint him as a really dumb ninja-like stealth assassin. Both of his [[Tech Spec]]s give him an intelligence of 4, even the numbers that accompany his ''Transmetals'' bio which mentions the cartoon's [[quantum surge]].
* In the first season, Tarantulas is characterized more as a cannibalistic, psychotic gourmand who happens to be the Predacons' Science Officer than as the mad scientist and master plotter he becomes from "[[Spider's Game]]" onwards. This is to the extent that his official season one profile makes several mentions of his eating habits, describes his sole interest as being "food", and summarizes his relationship with the other Predacons as simple disdain, as he considers them to all be potential meals.
* In the Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'', Tarantulas retained his trademark cackle, but it was a little ''different''. His voice was very high-pitched and he shrieked almost constantly. His trademark laugh more closely resembled a wicked witch of sorts.
[[File:OptimalSituation Tarantulas insignia.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Tarantulas is one of Reprolabels's best customers.]]
* From "[[Optimal Situation]]" onwards, the [[Arachnoid]]s sport a Tarantulas-themed insignia.
[[File:TMtigatronboxback2.jpg|thumb|Pew! Pew!]]
* Tarantulas's origins are a bit complicated. He declares in "[[Other Victories]]" that he and the [[Tripredacus Council]] have origins other than Autobot and Decepticon, such that they would not be affected by the destruction of the Ark. Megatron's line about "Unicron's spawn" was apparently not intended by [[Bob Forward]] to be taken literally but as a generic Transformer insult; [[Larry DiTillio]] has said Bob "regrets" the line and they never had ''any'' fixed idea of Tarantulas' origin. Larry also said that had the show continued, the characters "might" be descended from the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]].<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/f06828ec523295c1?dmode=source&output=gplain Larry DiTillio's take on Tarantulas origins! at alt.toys.transformers]</ref> A Unicronian origin also creates potential canonical issues, as Tarantulas says that "under our rule, Cybertron will conquer the universe" ("[[Other Victories]]"), whereas Unicron's goal would have been to eat Cybertron. But, much like [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]]'s line about "[[Darksyde (BW)|the dark side]]", this line developed a life of its own. Eventually this connection was reasserted in [[3H Productions]]' ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' storyline, initially written by... Bob Forward. On the other hand, [[Fun Publications]]' "[[A Common Foe]]" depicted a [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]/Cybertronian origin for Tarantulas and the Tripredacus Council but left the specifics a mystery.
* Tarantulas's body in "[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]" is based on [[Ransack (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' Ransack]]. His body in "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]", however, is a unique design not directly based on an existing toy, unlike the rest of the show characters in the story.
* Tarantulas is probably the only [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Minion of Unicron]] who avoided being labeled a [[Decepticon]].
* From what can be observed from art on the back of Transmetal Tigatron's packaging, Tarantulas's vok-enhanced abilities include levitating and firing energy beams from his eye(s?) in [[robot mode]]. Neat!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Tarans''' (タランス ''Taransu'')
*''Italian:'' '''Metal Tarantulas''' (Transmetal toy)
*''Korean:'' '''Tarantulas''' (타란튤라스 ''Talantyullaseu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Chīh-chū''' (Taiwan, 蜘蛛, "Spider"), '''Hóng Chīh-chū''' (Taiwan second and third season, 紅蜘蛛, "Red Spider"), '''Láng Zhū''' (China, 狼蛛, "Tarantula")
*''Polish:'' '''Tarantulator'''
*''Portuguese:'' '''Tarântulos''' (Brazil)

==References==
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[[Category:Beast Wars Predacons]]
[[Category:Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]
[[Category:Cloud Predacons]]
[[Category:Combiner Wars]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Double agents]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]
[[Category:Law enforcement]]
[[Category:Minions of Unicron]]
[[Category:Ninjas]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Scientists]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Toys "R" Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]
[[Category:Transmetals]]
[[Category:Unicron-related characters]]
[[Category:Universe Predacons]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Predacons]]

Tripredacus Council

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:''The Tripredacus Council is a group of [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] from the [[Beast Era]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:TripredacusCouncil1.jpg|350px|right|thumb|"So then it is agreed: half pepperoni, half green peppers."]]
The '''Tripredacus Council''' is one of the many ruling bodies of the fractured [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Predacon Alliance|Alliance]]. They meet in secret in undisclosed locations, and plot the return of the Predacons to glory, though under their terms. They choose to wait and grow strong before attacking...

Many Predacons are impatient, and their strategy has led to some rogue behavior among the Predacon ranks. To neutralise the rogues and (in public) keep the [[Pax Cybertronia]], the Council uses the [[Predacon Secret Police]] and its [[Ravage (G1)|Covert]] [[Onyx Primal|Agents]].

One of their agents, [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], suggests that, like himself and unlike the rest of the Predacons, the Tripredacus Council are not descended from the [[Decepticon]]s trapped on [[Earth]]. Instead, they may have extradimensional origins, be linked to the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], or may be, in fact, creations of [[Unicron]] himself...

The three members of the Tripredacus Council are:

*[[Ram Horn|General '''Ram Horn''']]
*[[Sea Clamp|General '''Sea Clamp''']]
*[[Cicadacon|General '''Cicadacon''']]

They can combine to form '''[[Tripredacus]]''' or, along with [[Tarantulas]] and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]; '''[[Predacus]]'''.

Their known affiliates and agents include:

*[[Flamewar (G1)|Flamewar]]
*[[Magmatron]]
*[[Onyx Primal]]
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]
*[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]

==Fiction==
===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Wings Universe''====
[[File:ACommonFoe-stasispods.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]
After the conclusion of the [[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]], [[Sky-Byte (G2)|Sky-Byte]] and the Decepticon [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]] team rejected the idea of the [[Pax Cybertronia|peace treaty]] being signed by the Autobots, Decepticons, and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s clones. Deciding instead to form a [[Predacon (BW)|new army]], they looted as many stasis pods from Jhiaxus's secondary laboratory as possible before detection. [[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] noticed that four of these pods (containing Tarantulas, Cicadacon, Sea Clamp, and Ram Horn) seemed different though the mystery was ultimately dismissed. {{storylink|A Common Foe}}

====''Timelines''====
{{note|The events of "Dawn of Future's Past" are also incorporated into the ''[[Transformers: Wings Universe|Wings Universe]]''.}}
After the Great War, [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] contacted [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], convincing them to join the new Predacon faction. Ravage, however, grew dissatisfied in this role and left to serve the Tri-Predacus{{sic}} Council. {{storylink|Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2006 Laserbeak profile card}}

The Tripredacus Council killed [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] to seize control of the Predacons from him. {{storylink|Razorclaw (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2009 Razorclaw profile card}}

After a Predacon insurrection led by [[Flamewar (G1)|Flamewar]] in the guise of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] arose in the [[J'kozian sector]], the Tripredacus Council discussed it and decided to leak the insurrection's presence on [[Nibari]] to the [[Maximal]]s so they would take care of the Council's renegade problem. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}}

As the crew of the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'' fled [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], Predacon Secret Police agent [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] was onboard decoding information from it. While his boss [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] wasn't watching, Tarantulas contacted General Cicadacon and updated him on the disk's status. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
[[File:Agenda1-TripredacusCouncil.jpg|left|thumb|300px|ssssh nobody tell anyone that we're solid gray without the table buttons glowing]]
Renegades like Megatron sneered at the Council for kowtowing to the [[Maximal Elder]]s. The Council actually had been using this as cover for their slow, secret rearming. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}}

The Council placed Lt. Tarantulas of the [[Predacon Secret Police]], a direct agent of theirs, in Megatron's organization as a spy. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} They were aware of his plan to go back into prehistory and intended for Tarantulas to hijack it, so he could completely destroy the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and its inhabitants. As they did not have Autobot or Decepticon origins, the Council would be spared the resulting [[timestorm]] and would take control of an altered Cybertron. Their own goal was galactic conquest. {{storylink|Other Victories}}

Unfortunately for them, Megatron escaped Cybertron in the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'' anyway, and caused [[Axalon (BW)|a Maximal craft]] to go MIA in the process. The Council suffered diplomatic repercussions over this.

Later, the [[transwarp wavefront]] caused by the destruction of the [[Planet Buster]] eventually reached Cybertronian space in the [[Beast Era]], hitting [[Predacon Command Outpost One]], causing a severe power outage. The council apparently convened on the station immediately afterward, where they noted that the transwarp wave's signature matched that of the ''Darksyde'', thus meaning that Megatron still functioned and was still carrying out his agenda. In order to prevent the Maximals from discovering this, they detonated a satellite somewhere near Cybertron, dispersing the wave before it reached the planet. They then dispatched Covert Agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] in a prototype [[transwarp cruiser]] to track the wave to its point of origin and terminate Megatron "with extreme prejudice". {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}}

When pressed by Megatron, Ravage admitted he was also meant to kill all the Maximals in the Beast Wars, as the Council wanted nobody coming back to Cybertron and embarrassing it. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
[[File:TheGathering1-TripredacusCouncil.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|They watch lots of TV.]]

General Cicadacon, who was suspected of being so old he dated back to the Decepticons, was the Councillor who drafted the Council's long-term strategy of secretly rearming, under the noses of the Maximals. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook #1}}

The council summoned [[Magmatron]] to [[Tripredacus Council's tower|their tower]] and ordered him to ensure that the [[Maximal]]s did not have knowledge of the transwarp wave. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}} They believed that the Predacons must wait for the appropriate moment to strike. Many Predacons, however, tired of this strategy. A short time later, after the failure of their first agent, [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], the council sent Magmatron to capture [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 2|The Gathering #2}}
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====Apelinq's War Journals====
The rogue Megatron came back to Cybertron and began a series of terrorist incidents, which rapidly increased in scale. After the bombing of New [[Cybertropolis]] spaceport, the Tripredacus Council called for martial law. It was to no avail: Megatron took out everyone on the planet. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
The Tripredacus Council charged [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] with training a unit of soldiers to take down [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and end the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] on [[Earth|Energoa]]. Before Ravage could leave [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], however, he and his soldiers were murdered by the lunatic [[Jaguar]]. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 2|Beast Wars Metals #2}}

===Descent into Evil===
[[File:DescentIntoEvil-TripredacusCouncil.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]
The Tripredacus Council employed Flamewar to check on [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]'s operation on [[Ceti Alpha Seven]]. As Flamewar reported on the apparent success of Deathsaurus's [[Virulent Clone]]s, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] hacked in the feed and informed everyone of the impeding failure built into the Clones. To rid themselves of an exposed agent, the Tripredacus Council remotely exploded [[Flamewar's ship]] with her in it. {{storylink|Descent into Evil}}
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===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
[[Preditron]] founded the Tripredacus Council, but he himself was usurped. {{storylink|Head Games}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Aurex 1104.30-JH Zeta]], the Tripredacus Council dispatched [[Sky Shadow (Cybertron)|Sky Shadow]] of the Predacon Secret Police to apprehend the time-traveling criminal [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 13/8/2015}}

==Games==
====''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals''====
In one timeline, they hired [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] as a double agent.

In another, Tarantulas returned to them and informed them of the discovery of the ''Ark'' on Earth. They promoted him and gave him command of a hundred-strong battle fleet, tasked to go back to the Beast Wars and carry out their grand scheme... {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals}}

==Notes==
*The names of the Tripredacus Council members are taken from the script of "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", which used to be hosted on [[Ben Yee]]'s website.
* [[Larry DiTillio]] and [[Bob Forward]] never got around to thinking up the "different origin" of the Council. They may have gone with them being descendants of the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]]s.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/f06828ec523295c1?dmode=source&output=gplain Larry DiTillio's take on Tarantulas origins! at alt.toys.transformers]</ref> A small nod to this origin story appeared in the 2014 ''Wings Universe'' comic "A Common Foe". Other creators have taken Megatron's insult of "[[Unicron's Spawn|Unicron's spawn]]" at Tarantulas as literal. However, this does not make much sense as the Council's goal is to ''rule'' the universe while Unicron's goal is to ''destroy'' the universe.
*The iconic dark-room-and-red-light look from "The Agenda" that ''every'' subsequent Council appearance copies? That was director [[Cal Shumiatcher]] going for a "super high contrast, film noir contrast" to cover up a lack of set and rough visual models while also keeping a dialogue-only scene interesting for small kids. As the characters were ordering Megatron's death, "I decided to play them like film noir gangsters, sitting in a smoke filled room under a swinging ‘china hat’ lamp." Supervising animator [[Eric Reynolds]] suggested the red lights so you could see the character's faces, as the lamp on its own cast them in shadow.<ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2015/11/04/the-tripredacus-agenda-behind-the-scenes-of-beast-wars-the-agenda-part-1-304952 TFW2005: "The Tripredacus Agenda – behind the scenes of Beast Wars The Agenda, Part 1"</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Trypticon Hyōgikai''' (トリプティコン評議会 ''Toriputikon Hyōgikai'', "Trypticon Council")

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Beast Wars subgroups]]
[[Category:Beast Wars: Uprising]]
[[Category:Combiner teams]]
[[Category:Councils]]
[[Category:Predacon leaders]]
[[Category:Predacon subgroups]]
[[Category:Transformer governments]]
[[Category:Wings Universe subgroups]]

Dawn of the Predacus

2016-04-14T21:50:58Z

Stealthyboy: Removing line that no longer made sense after a prior edit

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'''Every Maximal and Predacon you know was actually an Autobot or Decepticon who fought in the Great War. Uh...'''

==Synopsis==

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s / [[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (1)
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (2)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (3)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (4)
*[[Tigatron]] (13)
*Third Autobot High Councilmember (14)
*[[Lio Convoy]] (15)
*[[Big Convoy]] (16)
*[[Under-3|Unit-3]] (17)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (18)
*[[Optimus Primal]] (19)
*[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]](?) (20)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (21)
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] (22)
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (26)
*[[Razorbeast]] (27)
*[[Magnaboss]] (32)
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] (34)
*[[Air Hammer]] (35)
*[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (36)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (38)

|h2=[[Decepticon]]s / [[Predacon (disambiguation)|Predacon]]s|c2=
*[[Cicadacon]] (5)
*[[Sea Clamp]] (6)
*Decepticon experiments (7/8)
*[[Ram Horn|Ramhorn]] (9)
*[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] (10)
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (11)
*[[Retrax]] (12)
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] (23)
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (24)
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] (25)
*[[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]] (29)
*[[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]] (30)
*[[Buzz Saw (BW)|Buzz Saw]] (31)
*[[Predacus]] (33)
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (37)
*[[Magmatron]] (39)

|h3=Others|c3=
*[[Unicron]] (28)
}}

==Quotes==

==Notes==
*According to the author,<ref>https://twitter.com/wordmongerer/status/716433907621736448 </ref> this story takes place circa [[2035]], 30 years after ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' and 300 years before ''Beast Wars''. It also precedes "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]".<ref>http://wordmongerer.tumblr.com/post/142758963250/this-past-weekend-my-first-transformers-story </ref>

===Continuity notes===
* Ironhide references [[The Transformers: The Movie|having been killed]] by a Megatron before.
* The profile card for Optimus Primal's BotCon 2006 toy stated that he was a veteran of the last Great War which resulted in the defeat of the Predacons.
* The profile card for Razorclaw's BotCon 2009 toy (tying into his appearance in "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]") stated that he was doublecrossed and assassinated by the Tripredacus Council.

===Transformers references===
* Magnaboss references the "such heroic nonsense" line from the movie.
* The [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] is mentioned.

===Real-life references===

===What the friggin' frick===
*Three hundred years ago, Optimus Primal, Rhinox, and Rattrap (in their "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]" bodies) are flying around in the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''. Let's break this down:
**Rattrap shouldn't know Primal yet. It's pretty clear, starting in "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]", that Rattrap is someone who is new to Optimus Primal's command, and also that Optimus Primal himself is new to command.
**Rattrap seems to ''name'' Optimus Primal within a scene in this book. Because of how his face looks kinda like that of Optimus Prime.
**As this story predates the existence of Maximals and Predacons, and there is no indication that any sort of downsizing has taken place yet, apparently in the past the ''Axalon'' was scaled to Generation 1-sized Transformers and... eventually shrunk after the war ended...? According to the author during BotCon, there was just "less room" on the Axalon during that scene.
*That's right, nearly every Maximal and Predacon from the cartoon, plus some who didn't appear in the cartoon, all existed concurrently with the Autobots and Decepticons of old, including several major Generation 1 characters, even! It's pretty weird that these characters would go on to regard their peers as not only their ''ancestors'' but as enigmatic legends, while dismissing them as "energon guzzlers" due to their relative size.
*Compounding this, nearly everyone who eventually ended up in the Beast Wars was present at the end of the Great War, with some playing rather prominent roles during the war's end:
**''Beast Wars'' Megatron seizes a role of authority following Galvatron's demise, bossing Predaking around.
**Tigatron and Airazor are incredibly important Autobots, to the point that Prowl says that Tigatron is "respected by all sides for his desire for peace," sending him as an emissary to the Decepticons due to his widespread reputation. Apparently nobody recognized this critical historical figure when he was reborn later on Earth.
*Protoforms are no longer new members of Optimus Primal's exploration team in stasis for the journey to other planets. Stasis pods are now life support vessels for Autobots and Decepticons who were critically damaged by [[transmatter]] the [[Tripredacus Council]] members weaponized from [[Unicron]], with "protoform" now describing a quantum state of being suspended between dimensions and realities. Optimus Primal takes possession of some of these stasis pods, stating that he'll "do what we can for them," implying that he'll carry these guys around in his ship for the following 300 years.
**This also indicates that all the Decepticons who got protoformed were somehow converted to Maximals, since show-Predacons are Maximal protoforms with a Predacon [[shell program]] installed.
**Also, this apparently means the blank, sparkless protoforms the ''Axalon'' carried are basically corpses, we guess? Which means that in season two of the show and beyond, Optimus Primal is wearing someone's skin!
*Airazor is in one of these stasis pods (labeled "Airazor") and Tigatron is not, which makes the events of "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]" pretty implausible.
*It is implied that Generation 1 Inferno becomes [[Inferno (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Inferno]]. He is hit by transmatter and loaded up onto the ''Axalon'' in a stasis pod labeled "Inferno." However, the author stated at [[BotCon 2016]] that this is not necessarily a fact as it was delierately left open <s>to be ignored</s> to reader interpretation.
*Speaking of labeled pods, the pods in the show weren't labeled with who was inside them, aside from the obvious exception of [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]]... who is mysteriously absent from the manifest.
*Pre-beast forms of Air Hammer and Blackarachnia are seen walking around.
*The death of [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], a being composed of black, yellow, and red mammals and birds, is commemorated with... a purple insect face?

===Other trivia===
*This book was produced by [[IDW Publishing]] instead of [[Fun Publications]].

===Covers===
*'''BotCon Edition:'''
*'''Diamond Edition:'''
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</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Timelines issues]]

Choose Me

2016-04-12T14:52:59Z

Stealthyboy:

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|caption="Then he got an idea. An awful idea. Starscream got a wonderful, awful idea."
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|coverdate=December, 2015
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'''Grinchy about not getting his way'''<br>
'''Starscream declares a new holiday!'''

==Synopsis==
Spirits are high on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] as [[Transformer]]s from the various colonies return to their ancestral homeworld, and new friendships are forged. The only 'bot unhappy with all of this is [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]], still largely unliked by the population and left out of the goodwill. Struck with inspiration after another conversation with the imaginary/dead [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]], he decides to declare a new holiday, "[[Chosen One Day]]", filled with joy and gift-giving—all to be directed at Starscream, of course. [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] takes a recording of this declaration speech to [[Circuit (G1)|Circuit]] and [[Longtooth]] at the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] news serves, but unfortunately, the half-asleep Longtooth accidentally cuts off the end of the broadcast, leaving out the part where Starscream is the one who is supposed to receive gifts and praise.

Consequently, all the Cybertronians and colonists get really into the joyous spirit of the day and give each other presents and well-wishes (with [[Sparkstalker]] even asking [[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] to be his [[Conjunx Endura]]!) while Starscream is left to stew alone in his tower. As night settles in, however, there comes a knock at Starscream's door—Wheeljack has come to visit, and he has brought, [[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]], [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]], and all the other ambassadors from the [[Council of Worlds]], who fill the room with decorations and drinks. Wheeljack gives a toast: in honor of his "selflessly" declaring Chosen One Day, the group has decided to give Starscream the gift of their friendship... even if it's just for tonight!

==Featured characters==
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*[[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]]'s ghost (5)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (13)
*[[Slag (G1)|Slug]] (14)
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (15)
*[[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] (16)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (28)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]] (29)

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*[[Sparkstalker]] (2)
*[[Octane|Tall Tankor]] (9)
*[[Tankor (BM)|Fat Tankor]] (10)
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (20)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (21)
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (22)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (23)
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (27)

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*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] (1)
*[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] (3)
*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (4)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (6)
*[[Longtooth]] (7)
*[[Circuit (G1)|Circuit]] (8)
*[[Knock Out (G1)|Knock Out]] (11)
*Knock Out's Conjunx Endura (12)
*[[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] (17)
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*[[Elita One]] (18)
*[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] (19)
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (24)
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (25)
*[[Badgeless]] (26)
*[[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]] (30)
*[[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]] (31)
*[[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]] (32)
{{!}}}
}}

==Quotes==
"You heard it right here, folks! A new holiday!<br>
Show someone close to you why they're okay.<br>
Be they co-worker, friend, or Conjunx Endura<br>
Show why you care with august bravura!"
:—'''Circuit''' (that last one's definitely a word, the footnote assures us)

"But all of the others 'bots loved the news<br>
Both of the [[Tankor (disambiguation)|Tankors]] got matching tattoos.<br>
Knock Out and his Conjunx went on vacation,<br>
And Slug took a moment to praise Blurr's vocation.<br>
Windblade thanked Chromia for saving her life,<br>
And Lightbright agreed to be Sparkstalker's wife!<br>
Elita's soldiers threw her a parade...<br>
...and his teammates bought Onslaught a brand new grenade!<br>
Yes, everyone was in the spirit of giving,
Happy to still be among the living.<br>
And everone got into the spirit of fun<br>
Well, everyone... except one."

"And true to their word, Starscream was given<br>
All of the love for which he had striven.<br>
And they say that his [[spark]], it shone so bright,<br>
He swore not to destroy them... at least, not tonight."<br>

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Waspinator is shown enjoying a wallow in a pool of energon; presumably, this is one of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s waste pools, which he was shown to enjoy visiting in the [[The Transformers: Windblade|first ''Windblade'' series]].
*We finally get to see a full-body depiction of Knock Out's Conjunx, who is - as expected - an IDW version of [[Breakdown (WFC)|''Prime'' Breakdown]].

===Transformers references===
*The Devisen pair who appear on page 1 seem to be colored in homage to the [[Micromaster Combiner]] [[Astro Squad]] members [[Heave]] and [[Barrage (Micromaster)|Barrage]].
*The Velocitronian on page 1 shares a body-type with [[Rapido|Racemaster]] from [[Race Against the Light|''Windblade'' vol. 2 #5]] with a yellow coloration similar to [[Bumblebee (Movie)|movie Bumblebee]] or [[Bumblebee (WFC)|''Prime'' Bumblebee]].
*One of the gift-givers Starscream envisions seems to have a color scheme based on [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]].
*Among the celebrating Badgeless is a Transformer based on a [[Vehicon (Prime)|''Prime'' Vehicon]]; these 'bots are "happy to be among the living", a joke based on the short life expectancy of the average Vehicon in the [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|''Prime'' cartoon]].

===Real-life references===
*The cityscape on the very first panel seems evocative of a [[Santa Claus|big, mischievously smiley face complete with mustache]], for some reason.
*It goes without saying, of course, but this story is an homage to ''{{w|How the Grinch Stole Christmas!}}'', with Starscream standing in for the titular character and Rattrap playing the role of the Grinch's dog Max.
*One of the (presumably [[Eukaris|Eukarian]]) colonists seen on page 1 is colored to evoke a [[My Little Pony]], complete with cutie mark.
*The spectral form of Bumblebee, who normally appears in ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|The Transformers]]'' looking no different than he did in life, is here rendered as a much more cartoonish ghost, bound in chains and lock-boxes in references to the ghost of Jacob Marley from ''{{w|A Christmas Carol}}''.

===Errors===
*Longtooth's name is misspelled "Longthooth".
*The narration says Blurr comes in ''behind'' Windblade and Rattrap, but the art has him coming in ''ahead'' of them. Perhaps he was so fast he overtook them the moment the narrator finished?
*Conjunx Endura is consistently misspelled as "Conjux" Endura throughout.

==External link==
*[http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/transformers-holiday-special-2015-idw-2015 Preview]

[[Category:IDW Generation 1 issues]]

Impactor (G1)

2016-03-23T14:46:34Z

Stealthyboy: Yes I'm continuing with the Impactor/Kiloton nonsense. A disambiguation box may not have been the way to do it, but I do still think the coincidental parallels should at least be noted in some way, so I've stuck a mention in the Notes section.

{{factions|autobot|wreckers}}
{{disambig3|Impactor}}
:''Impactor is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Marvel Comics continuity|Marvel portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Impactor Autopedia.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Madeup leader of the nobody squad.]]
'''Impactor''' is the legendary former leader of the [[Wrecker]]s, an elite [[Autobot]] strike team, and as such is a deadly force to be reckoned with on the battlefield. His body is covered with weaponry, from the tank cannon on his shoulder, to the missiles hidden in his chest, to the handgun strapped to his leg, and finally his signature harpoon weapon that replaces his right hand. His audacity and resolve is what puts him in the history books, for better or for worse.

Impactor's first officer, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], is inevitably his replacement, once terrible things occur. Springer's feelings regarding his filling of Impactor's immense shoes are always a source of angst. Just when Springer thinks these emotions are dealt with and buried, Impactor somehow returns to mix things up again. In [[IDW continuity|some universes]], he has the nickname '''Kiloton'''.

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
{{noteukexclusive|Impactor}}
[[File:Impactorfearless.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|[[Macabre]] who?]]
After the departure of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and their troops from the war, [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]] assigned the Wreckers to assassinate the warlord [[Trannis]], who came into power in Megatron's absence. Impactor was chosen to lead this team. Though the assassination attempt was successful, other leaders quickly sprung up to take Trannis' place.

[[File:Xaaronimpactor.jpg|thumb|Impactor carries a gun barrel around for those (*ahem*, Xaaron) who invade his personal space.]]
Though Impactor was dedicated to his troops, he was not so dedicated to his superiors, and was not above directly insulting them. Emirate Xaaron took this attitude in stride, and could give as well as he received. Impactor referred to the Autobot resistance leader as a "wily old buzzard," as he was often surprised by Xaaron's blunt yet indirect ways of making his point and getting what he wants. Despite this, their difficulties masked a genuine friendship.

Countless years later, after Optimus Prime and his Autobots had awoken on [[Earth]], Impactor and the Wreckers were responsible for executing [[Operation: Volcano]], a planned ambush of the [[Ten Deadliest Killers|Decepticons' fiercest warriors]] using Xaaron as bait. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] was assigned to the Wreckers to help them bolster their ranks for the mission, but he was quickly needed to travel to Earth to investigate the disappearance of Optimus Prime. Impactor's commitment to the mission wavered and he at first refused to deploy his team without Magnus there as back-up, but he changed his mind after a conversation with Xaaron. Impactor's doubts were further quelled when Xaaron convinced him that [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] were an adequate replacement for Magnus, which Xaaron accomplished by having them disguise themselves as Decepticons and beat Impactor up. Operation: Volcano was once again on track.

Xaaron, the bait for the Wreckers' trap, was placed according to plan, but suddenly Megatron called his warriors to Earth, overriding all other commands, including the planned ambush on Xaaron. Disappointed that their trap was ruined, the Wreckers let down their guard long enough to allow an assassin named [[Macabre]], ignoring Megatron's orders, to fire upon Xaaron. Impactor was the first to react and pushed Xaaron out of the way, taking the shots meant for the Autobot underground resistance leader. Immediately, the other Wreckers turned and fired upon Macabre, killing him, but Impactor was fatally wounded. With his last words he named Springer the next leader of the Wreckers before dying in Xaaron's arms, again calling him a "wily old buzzard." {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

[[File:Impactorzombie.jpg|left|thumb|Brains!]]
Impactor's death would haunt several other Autobots for some time to come. Though he sought to deny it, Ultra Magnus felt guilty for not returning to Cybertron in time, and this led to his taking an excessive approach when dealing with Optimus Prime, whom intelligence reports stated was a traitor. {{storylink|Under Fire!}} Subsequently Magnus found a fight with Megatron proved the opportunity to release his pent-up aggression over Impactor's death. {{storylink|Resurrection!}} Even after that, the sight of a volcano on Earth left him uneasy. {{storylink|Burning Sky!}}

Springer was also severely affected by Impactor's death, and felt inadequate in the shadow of his legacy. So when a rogue Autobot scientist named [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]] discovered a way to reanimate dead Transformers, Springer was crippled from action when he was met with the reanimated corpse of Impactor. {{storylink|Legion of the Lost!}} His route to the kidnapped Wreckers and Xaaron blocked, he reluctantly fought his predecessor until Springer managed to jar Impactor into remembering his past life. Impactor sacrificed his life again when he stopped Flame's reactors from destroying [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Meltdown!}}
{{-}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Ongoing22 MaccadamsNewOilHouse.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Let's see: 'I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness. Starving, hysterical, naked...' Nah, it's never gonna catch on, Megs."]]
Impactor was [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|constructed cold]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Before the war, he was friends with fellow mine grunt, [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (and suffered his poetry) and the two worked together at [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]]. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory #1}} {{storylink|Shockwaves}} Impactor thought Megatron's nonviolent solutions to Cybertron's class warfare were cute, and reminded him that there would always be a pecking order, no matter how large or small the equation. Megatron's naïveté was underscored when the lowly [[Rung (G1)|Rung]] was ganged up on by a much larger pair of military cadets and tossed across their table. Impactor, drunk, got up to deal with them the only way he thought mattered. Megatron was put off by the violence and stayed out of the fight, but was arrested anyway; Impactor was taken to [[Deltaran Medical Facility]], but not before he'd torn the cadet's legs off and shoved them into a garbage grinder. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory #1}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 2: Stet}}

When [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] was arrested for the beating he gave Megatron during the latter's brief incarceration, Impactor ended up being his cellmate on [[Garrus-1]]. Impactor beat up Whirl to the brink of fade-out, leaving him in critical condition. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}}

[[File:RulesofDisengagement-BlackShadowvsWreckers.jpg|thumb|left|upright=2.4]]
At some point after war broke out, Impactor joined the Wreckers, when they were not yet the war heroes they would come to be known as, but merely a rumor. He battled [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] in the 11th iteration of the team, under the command of [[Crest]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} He would go on to become leader of the Wreckers in turn and still holds the record as their longest-serving member to present day. It was ''he'' who coined the phrase "Wreck and Rule!" while saving [[Xaaron]] at the [[Sonic Canyons]]. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2}} He left an impact on Springer at [[Sherma Bridge]], when he took control of an flaming Decepticon shuttle pod by disposing of its headless pilot, and landed it safely. The incident would inspire Springer to sign up for the Wreckers reservists. {{storylink|Zero Point}} Much later, Impactor personally approached Springer at [[Toxic Sludge Swamps]] to recruit him into the 17th line-up of the Wreckers. With his entrance, he took down eight hidden Decepticons. Springer was impressed but didn't realise at the time that it was all a scripted part of the Wreckers mythology and that Impactor never gave him a choice. {{storylink|Dead Men's Boots}}

Impactor took Springer under his wing, and the two shared a close bond not much unlike brothers. He even nicknamed Springer "my little green circuit booster" after the effect he had on him with his speeches. But during Impactor's leadership as the war got dirtier and dirtier, so did the Wreckers. His Wreckers were barely Autobots at that point—they would abuse prisoners, cause unnecessary pain unto their enemies and kill Decepticons even when not needed.

When Megatron responded with [[Squadron X]], that sent Impactor into a single-minded rage. As any Autobot would, he hated Squadron X but for him it was personal as he saw an echo of the Wreckers in the team. Impactor then proceeded to chase the enemy team across nine star systems, ignoring significant war events such as the [[Black Epoch]], the [[Simanzi Massacre]] and the [[Crucible]], and the "Rise of the [[Dethroner]]". {{storylink|Zero Point}}

[[File:Gloaming-battle-for-hells-point.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
He was among the Autobots fighting atop a Decepticon warcruiser during the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], {{storylink|The Gloaming}} where he picked up the nickname "Kiloton" for the number of Decepticons he slaughtered during the battle. Over time, his mental state became increasingly unstable, something both his superiors and his fellow Wreckers chose to ignore. Impactor was inspired to replace his hand with a harpoon weapon after a run-in with a dimension-hopping "[[Death's Head (G1)|freelance peacekeeping agent]]." After a long string of suicide missions, Impactor became an alarmingly obsessed individual, especially regarding Squadron X, the team Megatron assembled in answer to the Wreckers. Impactor felt indirectly responsible for the atrocities Squadron X committed. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Impactor's psych-screening}}

As described in [[Wreckers: Declassified|''The Wreckers' Air Attack'']], Impactor met his old friend Megatron at the [[Manganese Mountains]] where they fought on a drilling platform. Eventually, Impactor lost his hand, chin, and had Megatron's fusion cannon pressed to his head. Before giving the killing blow, Megatron gave a poetic speech of Impactor's coming death. Even with no power to lift his harpoon, Impactor replied by scratching the words "NOT MORE POETRY" on the platform, and gave Megatron pause. At that window of opportunity, Springer used a sky sled to knock Megatron down, sending him to fall thousands of feet into the Mountains.

After gathering his mouth, Impactor proceeded to inform Springer what they'd have to do in four minutes: save Xaaron, rescue [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] from his antimatter duplicate, deactivate [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s necrocannon and stop the platform they were on from crashing into a nucleon reactor. Springer was unsure if they could manage all that in the given time so Impactor told him that they actually had two minutes, but assured him that he had a plan. {{storylink|Zero Point}}

[[File:LastStandoftheWreckers5-squadronexxed.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|They were like that when I got here!]]
After chasing Squadron X across the galaxy, the Wreckers' rivalry with them came to an end on the planet [[Pova]]. The Wreckers, however, found themselves in a bad way after Impactor's first officer, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], was trapped under some collapsed rubble. Despite Springer's pleas, Impactor used Springer's own body as a shield against Squadron X's advancing troops, firing through it. This helped turn the tide, and the Wreckers rounded up all of Squadron X for transport offworld. Unfortunately, Impactor snapped when [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] told him that Pova was neutral territory, and that he was ordered to set them free or else the Autobots would face diplomatic repercussions. Impactor personally executed every member of Squadron X while they were restrained. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}

When the Wreckers were on their way back from Pova, they stopped at [[G'th Semane]]. Springer made a call to [[Autobot High Command]], and gave Impactor in. The mech he was talking to had been waiting for the opportunity to arrest Impactor for hundreds of years. Impactor detached his harpoon, passive, much to Springer's surprise. {{storylink|Zero Point}}

Springer testified against Impactor, and the disgraced Wreckers leader was imprisoned on [[Garrus-9]]. A cover story for what happened on Pova was released which involved Springer suggesting Impactor fire through his torso and Squadron X later escaping their restraints, necessitating their execution. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4}} As extra punishment for refusing to show remorse for what he'd done, Impactor was not granted the mercy of spark removal, and instead was imprisoned normally. In jail, they called him "the Autobot that went ''too far''". {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}} As Impactor was dragged to his cell, Springer said something he didn't want to hear, something he would dwell upon for the length of his incarceration: Squadron X deserved to die, but that didn't give Impactor the right to kill them. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}

[[File:LastStandoftheWreckers1-Impactor post boom.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Give him a hand, folks!]]
Twenty years later, [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] seized control of G-9, and Springer's Wreckers were sent to liberate it. Springer was trying hard not to think of Impactor. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1|Last Stand of the Wreckers #1}} However, the Decepticon [[Snare]], wanting Overlord gone, released Impactor from his cell in the hope he could escape the planet and get help. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}} As the current-day Wreckers arrived at Garrus-9, a decrepit Decepticon dropship blocked their path. It exploded before their eyes, but not before the battered form of Impactor ejected from the craft. Appearing before the shocked Wreckers, Impactor sneered, requesting to be let aboard. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1|Last Stand of the Wreckers #1}}

He filled the new Wreckers in on the situation and how he'd escaped, while continuing to clash with Springer. He not only refused to recognize his former soldier was now in charge, he snarled that he used to think Springer would've done the same thing Impactor himself did on Pova...and was now sickened that Springer ''wouldn't''. Conflict aside, Springer knew Impactor was needed for the mission. Given a new harpoon/hand, he was placed in Springer's drop-team and deployed to G-9...and he recognized, with visible glumness, the name of their secondary objective, "[[Aequitas]]".

Descending towards G-9 in two ejected escape pods, they met with tough Decepticon resistance. Despite their maneuvering, Impactor's ship was the first to go down, though the other wasn't far behind. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}} After their crash-landing, Impactor led them towards where the Autobot prisoners were being held. Cell Block G was directly below him, best he recalled, but [[Twin Twist]]'s drilling only sent them tumbling into a large, empty chamber. At the bottom, Impactor found the twisted remains of [[Kick-Off (G1)|Kick-Off]], whom he regarded as one of the few guards who treated G-9's prisoners with respect. Their presence in this chamber signaled G-9's defenses, and after he, Springer, and Twin Twist were electrocuted, they woke up strapped to tables in the care of [[Stalker (G1)|Stalker]]. A sadist, Stalker grabbed his tools of torture and gleefully went to work on them. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 3|Last Stand of the Wreckers #3}}

[[File:LastStandoftheWreckers4-fivewords.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|He makes that same face when he doesn't want to eat his peas.]]
Unlike Springer and Twin Twist, Impactor had grown used to the Decepticons' methods in the time since their takeover of G-9, so he alone managed to stay online during Stalker's "work". Twin Twist was looking terrible and mangled, and Springer had just woken up when he and Impactor began talking about their murky past. Impactor accused Springer of betraying the Wreckers with the testimony against him, while Springer was surprised to learn that Impactor still had no remorse for what he'd done. So long as Impactor refused to realize that he'd done wrong, their feelings were at an impasse.

Stalker returned with a [[endoscopic claw|new torture device]] but his work on Twin Twist was interrupted when his brother Topspin sacrificed his own life elsewhere, extinguishing both sparks. Disappointed, Stalker turned his attentions to Impactor, but was again interrupted. [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]], and the turncoat Decepticon Snare blasted into Stalker's lair. Snare was mortally wounded in the following skirmish, and Stalker was killed. As Snare lay dying, Impactor questioned him, wondering why the Decepticon had saved them. Snare told them that Overlord was on his way and asked that he himself be killed, which Impactor did curtly before Snare could finish his final words.

True to Snare's last warning, Overlord arrived with a boom. Unknown to them, elsewhere, the other half of the Wreckers had completed their objective by hacking the supercomputer judge Aequitas and downloading it into Ironfist's brain. They were surrounded by Decepticons whom they could easily deal with if they simply signaled all the deterrence chips in their heads, killing them. But they knew this would also kill Impactor, who was also an ex-prisoner, and so his and their fate came to a vote. Perceptor voted for killing him for the sake of many, Pyro voted against, and...Ironfist, Impactor's greatest fanboy and new host to Aequitas's judgment of Impactor, came to the sad realization that his hero very much deserved to die. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|Last Stand of the Wreckers #4}}

[[File:LastStandoftheWreckers5-finishhimoff.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Surprise! He's a tank. Surprise! He's gonna kick your ass.]]
Fortunately for Impactor (and the Wreckers), [[Verity Carlo]] convinced the others to spare Impactor. After Overlord pulled Guzzle apart and used the pieces to put Kup down, Impactor removed Overlord's eye with his harpoon. In response, Overlord stomped Impactor into the ground, forcing him offline.

When Impactor came to, Overlord had been reduced to a flaming skeleton facing only the fragile Verity Carlo. Impactor blasted Overlord's arm off and attacked him, but Overlord had lost the will to fight, as he'd learned that Megatron had perished, robbing Overlord of his final showdown with him. Overlord beckoned Impactor to kill him, but Impactor refused. In honor of Springer, whom Impactor thought had died, the former Wreckers commander promised that Overlord would serve trial as a criminal, and himself finally came to terms with the crimes he committed on Pova.

Impactor was pardoned in exchange for his help retaking Garrus-9, and he immediately left for parts unknown on a shuttle with the repaired Guzzle. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}

Things didn't go well for the new pair: Guzzle became increasingly violent and obsessed with racking up a bodycount, something that struck Impactor too close to home, and which got him captured in a rescue mission against Decepticon Harvesters. The fact Impactor cared about Guzzle and the alien hostages enough to rescue them was a sign that he was improving... but when the hostages were killed, Impactor allowed himself to succumb to bloodlust once more, realising to his horror that he could not escape it. {{storylink|Escape (G1)|Escape}} Eventually, Impactor balked and had Guzzle imprisoned at Debris for butchering prisoners, something that a raging Guzzle felt was hypocritical. All Impactor could now do was wile away his days with Roadbuster, lamenting the state of the Wreckers and their lack of purpose. Roadbuster comforted Impactor by pointing out he ''didn't'' join the killing and was trying to care for a comrade. Such caring was a point of contention between the two as Impactor felt it was wrong for his teammate to keep Springer alive, after years of no mental activity, and tried to drag Debris administrator [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]] into the debate.

Shortly after, Springer did in fact regain consciousness: just in time for the Wreckers to be gathered once again to try and rescue a captured Prowl. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 1|Sins of the Wreckers #1}}

On Earth, Impactor and the Wreckers found Prowl's old collaborator [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] hunting for him, after he went missing en route to Verity Carlo and her copy of the [[Aequitas]] [[data slug]], a gift from Ironfist. When a "rabbit" stole the data slug, Impactor and Guzzle took off after the creature, but soon encountered several Chimericons, robots in disguise as Earth creatures. A massive Chimericon name [[Tidal Wave (G1)|Tidal Wave]] appeared, and the Wreckers surmised that Prowl was being held inside him. While Springer led a squad into the 'bot, Impactor remained outside to draw fire and divert their other attackers. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 2|Sins of the Wreckers #2}}

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===''Wings Universe''===
Impactor led the Wreckers during their campaign against Squadron X on [[Frellus IV]]. There, he willingly sacrificed members of the [[Hasmata]] in order to flee from Squadron X’s siege. Impactor and the Wreckers then stole Squadron X’s ship to escape the planet. {{storylink|Tornado - Decepticon Saboteur}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
Impactor was the leader of the fearless Wreckers squad which liberated Garrus-9 from the grip of [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and the [[Air Strike Patrol]], though they destroyed most of the facility in the process. {{storylink|The Wreckers}}

==Toys==
===''Timelines''===
[[File:Timelinestoy-Impactor.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|Now I finally have a toy; maybe people will stop buying up those third-party Wreckers, right? <br> ...right?]]
*'''Impactor''' ([[2016]])
**''Accessories'': Clamp weapon, combiner hand/foot, assorted hand attachments

:Part of the [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service#Series 4.0 (2016)|Figure Subscription Service 4.0]], Impactor is a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations#Combiner Wars|Combiner Wars]]'' [[Rook (Generations)#Generations|Rook]] with a new head. He transforms into an armored personnel carrier, and can also form an arm or leg for any compatible ''Combiner Wars'' Voyager figure. One of his hands is unpainted purple so as to replicate the character's traditional one-handed appearance. He will also come with ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Arcee (G1)#Generations|Arcee]]'s four accessories, which he can plug into his various 5mm pegholes.

:The original version of this mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' [[Roller (IDW)#Toys|Wandering Roller]], slightly retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Tarantulas (BW)#Combiner Wars|Tarantulas]], and heavily retooled into ''Combiner Wars'' [[Swindle (G1)#CombinerWars|Swindle]] and [[Hound (G1)#Generations|Hound]]. This mold also served as the basis of the non-toy ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' version of [[Brawn (SG)|X-Brawn]].

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==Notes==
*According to [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] in [[Survivors!|issue #221]]'s [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]], Impactor transformed into an "earth-boring vehicle". In the letter page to [[Survival Run|issue #238]], Dreadwind clarified that he transformed into a drill tank but didn't have an earth mode. Later, in ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]],'' he transformed into a non-drill tank. Later still, but [[Chaos Theory Part 1|earlier in IDW's timeline]], he gained a drill replacement for his hand.
*In the Marvel comics, Impactor's right hand can be interchanged for a harpoon. This emulates the wrist-launcher gimmick found in many [[Diaclone]]-based toys. He is frequently seen carrying a club which looks an awful lot like a gun barrel, and which may be a gun attachment for his right arm; but being Impactor, he only ever uses it to smack guys around.
*Impactor was the one Wrecker in ''Last Stand'' who was ''never'' going to die! <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9DPbginVXE Moonbase 2's AA2010 interview], 21:22</ref>
*"[[Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self]]" revealed that all the Aequitas defendants were [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|"constructed cold"]]: their sparks taken from the Matrix itself and slapped into a body. That same issue also said Impactor was a [[Point One Percenter]], i.e. ''not'' constructed cold, causing some confusion until James Roberts confirmed that was a mistake.<ref name="moonbase2">[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ moonbase2 interview with James Roberts]</ref> The trade paperback snips Impactor's name from the Point One line.
*In IDW's Generation 1 continuity, Impactor was once a friend of Megatron, and later gains the nickname Kiloton. In the Generation 2 manga, Megatron had a friend called [[Kiloton]]. Is this a coincidence...? Probably.

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=257&page=13 Transformers #221 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]
*[http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=291&page=14 Transformers #238 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]

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Talk:Kiloton

2016-03-22T00:34:30Z

Stealthyboy: Questionning unneccessary reversion

Two of the four pages mentioning this dude say he's a messenger/ambassador. Is this actually confirmed or a fan interpretation? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:37, 1 February 2011 (EST)
:Spengler added it, so it's probably from a story page that hasn't been fully translated. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:01, 1 February 2011 (EST)

Can I have an ACTUAL reason why Saix decided to remove the disambiguation box from this page, instead of just "No"? Impactor IS nicknamed Kiloton in IDW continuity, so I feel the disambiguation box was perfectly valid. [[User:Stealthyboy|Stealthyboy]] ([[User talk:Stealthyboy|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2016 (EDT)

Kiloton

2016-03-15T15:10:08Z

Stealthyboy:

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:''Kiloton is a [[Decepticon]] from the Japanese [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:G2 Humans killed Megatron's friend.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
'''Kiloton''' is a thoughtful and introspective bot, one of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron's]] earliest recruits and eventually one of his closest friends. Unfortunately, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] tricked him into a dangerous foray on [[Earth]], where he died at [[human]] hands and helped reignite the war between [[Autobot]] and Decepticon.

==Fiction==
===Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====Ask Vector Prime====
Kiloton was descended from [[Quintesson]] models designed for high-level tactics and strategy and was one of Megatron's earliest recruits. He and Megatron became close friends, and perhaps more. He was seriously injured during an attack on [[Ultrix]] and sent [[Gpii II|off-world]] to convalesce. By the time he was restored to health, Megatron had gone missing, buried for millions of years on board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. Kiloton traveled the galaxy as a military consultant. This he tired of, and he became a scholar and a force for peace.

When he eventually learned of Megatron's revival, he made haste to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and the two <s>lovers</s> ''very close friends'' reunited. This made [[Pretender]] Starscream jealous, especially since he had been having his skidplate handed to him by [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]], and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]. Starscream tricked him into going to Earth by playing on his guilt for missing out on so much of Megatron's recent history. The people of Earth, who had only recently suffered an invasion at the hands of [[Scrash (OC)|Scrash]], were skeptical of the [[Cybertron Alliance]], so when Kiloton showed up at [[Moscow]] unannounced, the [[Soviet Union|USSR]] military didn't hesitate to mobilize. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 29/7/2015}}

====''G-2'' story pages and pack-in manga====
Though no [[Transformer|Cybertronian]] had been hostile to [[human]]s since the ratification of the alliance, Kiloton was attacked by the military and swiftly killed. In his grief and rage, Megatron dissolved the Cybertron Alliance and ignited the G-2 Wars. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|G-2 Part 3}}

====''Transformers Legends'' comic====
[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] told his own [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] a recap of Megatron's life story, including the time he lost his friend. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 13}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In another universe before his demise, Kiloton scanned a gun as his alternate mode, no doubt influenced by Megatron's first choice of Earth mode. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 29/7/2015}}

==Toys==
[[File:MicroChangeGunRoboMagnum.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
No toy of Kiloton was ever released. However, he is retroactively based on the '''MC-11 Gun Robo S&W Magnum 44''' toy from the [[Micro Change]] line.

==Notes==
*Okay, so Megatron's dead friend is a funny story. For years, he only existed as that one image at the top of the page. Nothing, absolutely nothing of the text surrounding the image makes mention of him or otherwise provides the image with context. Why was he on Earth? Why did he get attacked? Why did he get killed? Why does his death bother Megatron? Did his death influence Megatron's choice to reignite the war? [[Ask Vector Prime]] would eventually explain the image, most likely with input from [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]].
* While not spot-on perfect, the Gun Robo toy is actually a pretty close match for Kiloton's one illustration, especially given the conceit that the dead version is a pre-Earth-mode incarnation of the character.
*"Kiloton" seems to be a play off of Megatron's own name. Megatron's name hearkens to "megaton," making "kiloton" an obvious nod.

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