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2010-03-18T05:15:34Z

Stly92: /* *sigh* "first edit ever" */ new section

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive?

Beachcomber (G1)

2010-03-18T04:58:07Z

Stly92: Undo revision 437948 by Detour (Talk) That's right, I'm undoing your undo. the article deserves a more neutral look.

{{factions|autobot|autobotg2}}
{{disambig3|Beachcomber}}

:''Beachcomber is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

{{picsneeded|fictional appearances}}
[[Image:Beachcomber sawyer.png|right|250px|thumb|''Hippies.'' They're everywhere. They wanna save the earth, but all they do is smoke pot and smell bad.]]
'''Beachcomber''' has a hard time reconciling his love of peace and freedom for all creatures with the need to combat those who threaten it. Furthermore, however just the cause for which it was fought, the gruesome and destructive aftermath of any battle sickens him to the spark.

Sometimes, when the internal struggle gets too heavy, he simply has to wander into the wilderness and cleanse his soul. Even there, far from civilization, he sometimes finds strange substances to aid the Autobot cause, for Beachcomber is a skilled naturalist, and geology is his specialty, man. He often tries to preserve or even to hide these discoveries, but he has seen too much evil done by the ruthless Decepticons to conceal any possible source of aid completely from his allies.

Beachcomber's geology tools include a wide array of sensors (magnetic, seismic, sonic, infrared) and a 'sonic pick' which can cut through rock. Beachcomber can use his magnetic sensors to navigate like a compass, but local magnetic disturbances can cause this to lead him astray. His sonic probes possess only limited range.

Beachcomber is neither very fast nor very strong, and his antiwar sentiments gain him little respect from the more martial of the Autobots, yet he is agile and skilled in a fight, and his courage is beyond all reproach.

:''French-Canadian name:'' '''Déferlo''', '''Pacifico''' (''Generation 2'')
:''Greek name:'' '''Agelioforos''' (Αγγελιοφόρος)
:''Hungarian name'': '''Guberáló''' (Scavenger)
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics):'' '''Onda'''
:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics):'' '''Pacífico'''
:''Italian name'': '''Pulce'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Alan Oppenheimer]] (English), [[Osamu Saka]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Beachcomber with bird.jpg|right|180px|thumb|He talks to the animals. Especially after a good hit of Kalis Mountain High.]]
Beachcomber showed up out of nowhere one day, helping [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] investigate some [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] attacks on an old growth forest. This unit proved to be sufficiently under-powered when it came to confronting freshly fed Insecticons, and their battle strategy amounted to hiding behind Hound's holograms until the bad robots went away. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} He was next seen on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], worrying that the battle with the Decepticons would destroy the environment before it could be properly studied, but at least he still fought.
{{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}} {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

[[Image:Goldenlagoonbeachcomber1.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Seriously, he hangs out with a lot of birds.]]

On a geology expedition with [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and several other Autobots, Beachcomber wandered away from a fire fight to explore a cave in the nearby cliffside. There, a happy Beachcomber enthusiastically studied the wild life and enjoyed communing with nature. He also found a golden lagoon full of [[electrum]], a naturally-occurring element which would make any Transformer impervious to harm. He dipped his hand into the lagoon, and it turned completely gold in color. Beachcomber hid this information from his fellow Autobots, and even kept his silence after [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] arrived coated in electrum and drove the Autobots into retreat, capturing two of their number in the process. Valuing the scenic beauty surrounding the electrum pool, a conflicted Beachcomber still refused to warn his comrades after the entire Decepticon army arrived coated with invincible golden armor. He went solo to check on the lagoon, and was captured by the Decepticons. Some of the dumber [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] acted as his prison guards at the Decepticon sunken base, though, and Beachcomber managed to escape alongside his fellow prisoners Perceptor and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]].

Reaching the electrum pool, the trio was met by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and the rest of the Autobots, who had independently uncovered the pool's location thanks to [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]]. Realizing his golden hand would give him away, Beachcomber quickly dove into the electrum to disguise his prior knowledge of the substance. In the final battle with the Decepticons, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ordered the electrum pool destroyed rather than sharing it with the Autobots. In the aftermath of the explosion, the wilderness was totally decimated. Beachcomber never told the Autobots that he had known about the electrum pool and had kept silent, and instead sat bitterly mourning the loss of the beautiful glen to the seemingly eternal Autobot Decepticon war.

{{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}}

Beachcomber briefly maintained a position at the Autobots' New York City base inside [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug's]] garage. {{storylink|Make Tracks}} He was also seen attending Teletraan I when the Autobots were engaged with the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] and [[Morphobot]]s. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} Beachcomber was next seen protecting [[San Francisco]] from an alien bird-dragon unleashed on Earth by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. He tried appealing to the creature, thinking that we're all one with the same universe. Yeah... that didn't work well. {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme}} When the energy creature called [[Kremzeek]] assaulted the Ark, Beachcomber was one of the first Autobots short-circuited by the little creep. {{storylink|Kremzeek!}}

Beachcomber was later kidnapped by a greedy toll booth and forced to drive in a circle while hopping over spike-traps. It might make more sense if we explained it better, but it would be nowhere near as funny. {{storylink|Prime Target}}

Next, after Megatron kidnapped [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and then voluntarily let him go, Beachcomber joined the ''entire Autobot team'' in riding out a few miles from the base to retrieve their friend. Why several dozen Autobots were needed for such a simple mission...is unknown. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

In 2006, Beachcomber was stationed at the Ark with [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], [[Pipes]] and several others when [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] came to destroy it. Their feeble efforts to defend the spacecraft were barely noted by the dinosaur robot. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

Beachcomber fought alongside the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s and [[Throttlebot]]s on Cybertron in 2011. [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s hypnotic wave forced him and his allies to fall asleep. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
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[[Image:Smeltingpoolminivehicles.jpg|left|200px|thumb|On Cybertron, Beachcomber basically transformed into whatever Kup does.]]
Beachcomber was a member of Perceptor's resistance cell on Cybertron who disobeyed orders along with most of the cell to help [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] recover [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] from the [[smelting pool]]. He actually demonstrated some uncharacteristic strength and gusto, tearing down a [[laser sentinel tower]] with his bare hands. The rescue mission failed, but they did recover Scrounge's stolen data, and learned that Optimus Prime and the crew of the Ark were alive and fighting on Earth.{{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[Image:Powerglidereadytoblastoffrightnow.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Beachcomber's bloodthirstiest moment.]]

Soon after, Perceptor's crew began a mission to destroy the [[Space Bridge]] before the Decepticons on Earth and Cybertron could begin trading resources. Beachcomber used his geological skills to map out a safe path underneath the planet's surface to bomb the underlying support structures of [[Darkmount]], bringing down [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]]'s whole fortress. The unit failed to destroy the Space Bridge, however, and were ultimately forced to retreat across the Bridge to Earth. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}

Beachcomber and his fellows were taken captive by [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]] and their commanding officer, the robot-hater [[Circuit Breaker]], and their heads were mounted on the wall of their headquarters. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Circuit Breaker showed footage of their defeat to fellow RAAT operative [[Walter Barnett]]. Meanwhile, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and the shifty human [[Donny Finkleberg]] were sent on a mission to determine their whereabouts, but Finkleberg sold out Skids to RAAT as well. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}} Ultimately, Finkleberg redeemed himself by forcing the captured Autobots' release as part of a deal. If the combined bodies of Beachcomber and the other captives could successfully aid in the defeat of the vandalizing [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]], they would be set free. And so it was. ''Beachcomber and the others headed home, directed by Skids, when the time-traveling [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] took their guide's place. Galvatron tore his way through the group, one by one, with Beachcomber one of his casualties. {{storylink|Resurrection!}}''

[[Image:Beachcomberdarkstar.jpg|left|150px|thumb|They're about to crash through Bruce Wayne's window.]]
Beachcomber managed to avoid virtually all kinds of fighting for the rest of his time on Earth, doing nothing more strenuous than getting shot at by the Ark's own defense systems. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} While he did champion Blaster for replacing [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] as the Autobots' commander, this didn't stop Beachcomber from whining about senseless violence throughout their duel on the moon. Luckily, a Decepticon strike force arrived to drown out his voice with some lasers and explosives. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

When the Autobots rescued [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] from the Arctic and were ambushed by the Decepticons, Beachcomber was among the first to be attacked, set upon and mauled by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}

''Presumably, this rendered him non-functional, as Beachcomber was last seen laying deactivated aboard [[Ark (G1)|The Ark]] as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] attempted to repair him. {{storylink|Deathbringer (issue)|Deathbringer}}''
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====Marvel UK future timelines====
''When the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] raided [[Autobot City]] in 2008, Beachcomber and [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] rushed to defend their home with a team of fellow Autobots. Unfortunately, the Quintesson shock troops were too much for them, and quickly overran the defenders. Beachcomber and his [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] buddy made a run for back-up, but were jumped from behind and taken out with the rest. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

===Find Your Fate Junior===
Beachcomber had to find a path to the surface from the cave system the Autobots were trapped in. He explored the system of underground lakes, marveling at the many strange things that lived there. While recharging the [[Sun-Pak]] on the surface, he was attacked by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]], and had to be saved by [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]. How humiliating. {{storylink|Attack of the Insecticons}}

''In the 'unsuccessful' ending to this [[multipath adventure]], Beachcomber became lost when his magnetic sensors erroneously led him directly to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. He did not regret this error for long.''

Beachcomber discovered [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] practicing his earthquakes near a concealed base and learned of a Decepticon plan to destroy nearby [[Center City]].

[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] decided that such grave news required a pinpoint response with ''utmost'' secrecy... so he sent the recklessly impulsive [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]], the bombastic [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]], and Beachcomber to babysit the other two. {{storylink|Earthquake (book)|Earthquake}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Csbeachcomber.jpg|left|150px|thumb|"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Bonnnngggg!!!"]]
Beachcomber was spurred into action against [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s regime on Cybertron when Optimus Prime returned to the planet and rallied the Autobots into action. His actual contribution to the insurrection is undocumented, but it's entirely possible he may have even picked up a weapon. Really. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}}

Afterwards, Beachcomber was assigned to a mission suitable for his pacifism, as part of Bumblebee's supply crew on the ''[[Orion]]'', bringing news and fuel to their comrades on Earth. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} Little did they know they would be caught up in heavy combat with [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. Beachcomber was supposed to be guarding Sunstorm's primary target, the Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], in an Alaskan bunker. Now, of course, the question isn't whether Starscream betrayed them at the first opportunity; it's whether Beachcomber even bothered to pick up his gun and try to stop Starscream, or just passively let the 'Con gun him down. {{storylink|The Omega Effect}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
Beachcomber was first seen in the early days of the war with [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], meeting the damaged [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] when their transport ship returned to HQ. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

Later, Beachcomber was captured by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], who used [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] to slip him the [[Cerebro-shell|brown acid]]. Under its control, Beachcomber attempted on three occasions to assassinate [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]. Ultimately, Blaster confronted him about it and forced him to fight against his Decepticon control. Though his mental resistance shorted out the shell, his neural processors were severely damaged as well. It's unknown if Beachcomber experienced any [[wikipedia:lysergic acid diethylamide|flashbacks]] in the [[CR chamber]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

After eventually recovering, Beachcomber ended up among the Autobot forces on Earth. When [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] visited to investigate [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s surrender, Beachcomber feared that they might all get arrested, and decided to leave the team. Alongside [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], he attempted to find and join [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], who was trying to get off the planet, only to drive straight into a [[Skywatch]] ambush. Beachcomber was the first to be deactivated when a human named [[Campologno]] zapped him using a hi-tech suit. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Beachcomber''' (Mini Vehicle, 1985)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-63'''

[[Image:G1Beachcomber toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|My other altmode is a bong.]]
: Beachcomber transforms into a blue and gray dune buggy of probably made-up model. The figure came in several variants, one with "[[Hasbro]]" stamped across the left arm (removing half the "mesh" pattern), and one without (leaving the full mesh there).

: Later on, Beachcomber (along with all of the then-current [[Mini Vehicle|Mini Vehicles]]) came packaged with a bonus [[Mini-spy]] as well.

:Although not documented in his instructions Beachcomber's legs are extendable adding several precious millimetres to his height.

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===Generation 2===
* '''Beachcomber''' (Mini Vehicle, 1993)

: ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' Beachcomber uses the exact same mold as his Generation 1 counterpart. However, this time around, the blue was replaced with a chrome green and the grey of the upper legs and lamps was replaced with [[neon]] red. This version removed the "half-mesh" on the left arm and simply replaced it with a large Hasbro copyright stamp.

: A rare variant exists that may have been a testshot run with grey legs. These figures were apparently given out internally by Hasbro as [[Christmas]] ornaments, as they have been found bagged with a string attached and a card reading "Transformers Christmas ornament" on one side and "Merry Christmas from the Boys' Toys Marketing" on the other. The same treatment has been seen with a G2 Seaspray as well.

===Universe (2008)===
====G1 Series====
[[Image:Universe2008 Legends Beachcomber.jpg|right|170px|thumb|Has a [[fireblast]] of 1, yet is the only Legends Mini-Vehicle with a weapon.]]
*'''Beachcomber''' (Legends, 2008)

:Released in wave 4 of ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' (2008) Legends, Beachcomber is a new-mold toy of the original Beachcomber with a robot mode inspired by his [[character model]]; his alternate mode appears to be inspired by the Warthog vehicle from the ''Halo'' game series. He is labeled as being part of ''Universe'''s "G1 Series." Amusingly, the pacifist Beachcomber has a top-mounted machine gun in vehicle mode. Maybe it's a paintball gun?

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
*'''Minibot Attack Team''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-18'''

:The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' release of ''Universe'' Beachcomber has more [[Show-accuracy|cartoon-accurate]] colours and paint applications. He comes in a set with [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]].

==Notes==
[[Image:TFTM-MaybeBeachcomber.jpg|thumb|See kids? This is what happens to hippies.]]

*A robot with a color scheme approximating Beachcomber's could be seen ahead of [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] in line for [[Unicron|Unicron's]] smelting pool in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. Being ahead of Spike means he would have been destroyed before [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] shot down the lid, and he wasn't seen afterwards in the escape from Unicron. But, while "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]" is well known for its errors, Beachcomber's presence in those episodes means it probably was not him inside Unicron.
*Beachcomber's [[Character model|character model]] shows up during a flashback in the [[Armada (cartoon)|'Armada']] episode, [[Prehistory|'Prehistory']].

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Beachcomber/beachcomber.htm Beachcomber at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Beachcomber Beachcomber's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/Employee/Gen2ChristmasOrnamentBCom.html Christmas Ornament Variant]

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Beachcomber (G1)

2010-03-18T04:24:40Z

Stly92: Editted the cartoon story section to eliminate the ugly bias against the character. Stop picking on Beachcomber!