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2020-09-04T17:14:09Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Games */ new section

==Film, Novels==

Would it be appropriate to consider the golden disks made by Starscream (and presumably other Transformers) in the Film Novels a form of Shanix?
:Unless explicitly named, no. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:22, 13 December 2011 (EST)
: I doubt Shanix are gold, they're probably some unobtanium like Latinum. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:31, 13 December 2011 (EST)

== Games ==

I think this article is missing a section on Games. (Earth Wars) [[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 13:14, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

User:T0nySt1nk

2020-08-11T17:36:52Z

T0nySt1nk:

Megatron (Animated)

2020-07-05T03:37:54Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Animated cartoon */

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{{disambig3|Megatron}}
:''Megatron is a [[Decepticon leader]] from the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Megatronanimated.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|[[GEEWUN|An insult to G1, we swear!]]]]
If you were to ask '''Megatron''' to describe himself in one word, he'd probably go with [[Megatron (SG)|"heroic"]]. He sees himself as a freedom fighter [[Decepticon leader|leading the Decepticons]] in a righteous struggle against "[[Autobot]] tyranny". The fact he's hoping to replace that with ''Decepticon'' tyranny isn't really a concern... to him, at least. A fanatic at [[spark]], he revels in every Autobot who suffers at Decepticon hands and doesn't register beings like [[human]]s as anything more than "collateral damage."

Megatron demands loyalty from the [[Decepticon]]s as a whole, loyalty he gains through his fear and awe-inspiring power and abilities. With the combined threat of a sharp mind, his signature [[fusion cannon]], a pair of deadly [[sword]]s and simple brute strength there aren't many who would dare cross him. Still, he has no problem occasionally manhandling his troops as a gentle reminder.

The loss of [[Structure|his body]] and former glory was only a minor setback for him as Megatron proved himself a true master manipulator. He all-too-easily duped the rather absentminded [[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Isaac Sumdac]] into helping him—and [[AllSpark Key|once Megatron was restored]] he turned the tables on his old captor.

He is extremely intolerant of treachery and deals with [[Starscream (Animated)|said treacherous bots]] using methods of vicious no-nonsense efficiency [[Megatron (G1)|unlike other Decepticon leaders]]. He is also a shrewd strategist who [[Dinobot (Animated)|effortlessly]] [[Scrapper (Animated)|wraps]] [[Mixmaster (Animated)|others]] around his fingers.

{{bigquote|Decepticons... ''transform and rise up!''|Megatron puts a new twist on [[Roll out|an old saying]]|"[[Megatron Rising - Part 2]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
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{{voiceactor|[[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Norio Wakamoto]] (Japanese)|[[Jan Spitzer]] (German), [[Mirosław Neinert]] (Polish), [[Raffaele Farina]] (Italian), [[Vincent Violette]] (French), [[Junseok Song]] (Korean), [[Affonso Amajones]] (Portuguese), [[Mario Santander]] (Latin American Spanish, season 1 and 2), [[Alexander Páez]] (Latin American Spanish, season 3), [[Arto Nieminen]] (Finnish, [[Fredrik Hiller]] (Swedish)}}

[[File:Megatron Cybertron.jpg|left|thumb|Pointier than thou.]]
''Eons ago, Megatron overthrew the previous Decepticon leader [[Megazarak (Animated)|Megazarak]] and took control of the faction for himself. He gave speeches and wrote manifestos calling for the Decepticons to rise up and take control of both Cybertron and the [[AllSpark]] from the Autobots. Finally, on the [[Cycle of Infamy]], he took the Decepticons from mere rhetoric to outright war.''

''The Decepticons overran Autobot space, but the Autobots under [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] had one major advantage—[[space bridge]] technology which allowed them to move about the galaxy more easily. The Decepticon advance ground to a halt.'' {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}} However, Megatron's forces continued to fight on until the Autobots sent the AllSpark through the space bridge to random coordinates. Realizing that the AllSpark was the key to defeating the Autobots, Megatron abandoned the Cybertron theater and began searching the galaxy aboard his massive flagship the ''[[Nemesis (Animated)|Nemesis]]''. {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}} Megatron also lost the codes to [[Project Omega]] when the bounty hunter [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] failed to bring him [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]]. {{storylink|The Thrill of the Hunt}} ''With the war going badly after this, Megatron tried a last-ditch attempt with the [[False Calm]] and sent his troops at sub-light speeds to Cybertron. During the [[Battle for Iacon]] Megatron destroyed [[Gamma Supreme]]. Ultimately the attack failed and the Decepticons were finally forced to agree to an armistice and exile.'' {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

[[File:TFA TARO Decepticons attention.JPG|thumb|He's not planning on shaking Prime's hand...he's going to tear it off.]]
However, Megatron continued to search for the AllSpark. Four million years later, the ''Nemesis's'' crew discovered [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|a small Autobot repair vessel]] after detecting the AllSpark. When [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] volunteered to attack, Megatron saw his ambitions all too clearly, and pointedly remarked that he wasn't about to let four million solar cycles of searching for the AllSpark end with Starscream "[laying his] greasy wings on it". No, Megatron would strike the Autobot ship and take the AllSpark himself. Just prior to his departure, Starscream approached him again, ostensibly to wish him luck but actually to place an overload device on his leader's back. This device went off just as Megatron's fusion cannon was about to breach the hull of the Autobots' ship. The Autobot crew managed to steer the now-failing ship through an asteroid field and into a nearby [[space bridge]].

With the ship now plummeting through the Earth's atmosphere, a wounded Megatron still managed to thrash the crew soundly and nearly claimed the AllSpark. Quick thinking on the part of the ship's [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|captain]] sent the Decepticon leader out the cargo hatch and into free fall. Megatron [[Megatron (Movie)|fell from the sky and crashed]] in Paw Paw, [[Michigan]], where his head (and later, a hand) was found by a young [[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Isaac Sumdac]].

Over the next fifty years, Sumdac built a robotics empire by reverse-engineering Megatron's components while Megatron's inert head remained secretly in Sumdac's private lab, the source of the human's engineering genius and also a secret shame. Megatron's severed hand was there as well, used by Sumdac as a piece of furniture. {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}} {{storylink|Dispatches}}

[[File:AniMegsHead-TransformAndRollout.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|Hey Megatron, don't lose your... oh.]]
After the Autobots re-awoke Isaac's daughter, [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari]], used her [[AllSpark Key]] to sneak into her father's lab. He stopped her from seeing anything it contained, but the Key's AllSpark energy was absorbed by Megatron's head, reawakening his spark and mind and bringing him back online. Confused and disoriented, he automatically brought up video footage of Starscream and the Autobots, footage in which Starscream admitted to his treachery. Furious both at Starscream's betrayal and the fact he didn't have the proper appendages to reach out and take the AllSpark which was finally within his relative grasp, he released a burst of energy which activated a small drone Prof. Sumdac had been working on. Megatron realized he could control the extremely primitive (by his race's standards) technology around him. Learning Sari was going to spend the night at the Autobot base, he secreted his drone into her backpack. Once she arrived Megatron sent the drone to look for the AllSpark but his search was fruitless. He decided to try a simpler method: [[Death|Kill]] the Autobots and extract the data from their lifeless corpses. Interfacing with the factory's assembly line, he attacked. As the Autobots fought back, he decided to cut out the middleman and knocked a hole in a fuel tank. [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] realized the factory was working via motion sensors and managed to get close to the control panel. To counter him, Megatron simply took over the factory arms and snatched up Prowl. However, he failed to stop [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], due to the primitive tools he was forced to use. With his plans foiled, Megatron was out of patience, refusing to work through these worthless proxy machines. He needed a body, which meant it was time to provide some more advanced technology to Sumdac... {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is}}

[[File:Stiletto-Megatronsuccessfulfieldtest.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.5]]
''Megatron hired the industrial saboteur [[Stiletto (Animated)|Stiletto]] to steal from Sumdac enterprises a high-powered laser scalpel and an experimental metal alloy and then use them to collapse Detroit's Ambassador Bridge. In truth, Megatron didn't care much about whether or not she succeeded in collapsing the bridge, as he simply desired to see if the materials she had stolen would be suitable for his new body. He was satisfied with the results he saw broadcast on television.'' {{storylink|The Arrival issue 3|Stiletto}}

Megatron soon revealed to Isaac that he still functioned and, when Isaac guessed he was a friend of the Autobots, Megatron played along. He persuaded Isaac to keep his existence secret until Isaac had built him a new body, as then the Autobots would be more forgiving of how Isaac had reverse-engineered their friend. Megatron then helped construct the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobots]], deliberately programming them to go on a rampage and building fire-breath into them as a prototype for a planned army of drones. When they were defeated, Megatron despaired he might never gain a new body, but upon discovering they'd been turned into sentient Transformers, he quickly convinced them that cars, trucks and "[[Autobot|car robots]]" were evil beings that ate the fossil fuels supposedly derived from dinosaurs.

During their second rampage, Isaac realized Megatron had deliberately built weapons into the Dinobots. The tyrant feigned shame, saying he'd added experimental features out of a desire to have a body again. Isaac promised not to tell the Autobots and that Megatron would have a body again one day... {{storylink|Blast from the Past}}

[[File:TFA Nanosec Sumdac Megatron chill.JPG|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Rub it in, why don't you?]]
Soon, Dr. Sumdac began attempting to build him some new servos, but these proved inadequate. Megatron revealed that his body would need [[Destronium]] to work, but Isaac responded there was only a small amount available and that it would have to be delivered across town in less than 10 minutes or it would become unstable. Taking notice of an experimental turbo suit Sumdac's labs were developing (with flaws that possibly precluded Isaac considering it as a solution), Megatron manipulated computer systems so the suit was delivered to small-time hood [[Nanosec|Nino Sexton]]. Once Sexton began using the suit to commit crimes too quickly to be stopped, Megatron contacted him with an offer of much money out of Dr. Sumdac's private account if Sexton used the suit to steal and deliver the Destronium. Between Autobot interference and the suit aging him prematurely, Sexton failed. Worse, the Destronium was energized to a critical level, risking an explosion that would destroy [[Detroit]]. The Autobots barely managed to send the Destronium sample into the upper atmosphere before it exploded, and they were left to wonder why a human had tried to steal it in the first place. {{storylink|Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec}}

After Megatron learned of the power of Sari's AllSpark Key and the careless nature in which she used it, he attempted to trick her into assisting him. He designed [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]], a musical toy that was secretly meant to grow more powerful every time Sari used the Key upon it, until eventually it would be a suitable robotic body for Megatron himself. When the Key instead brought Soundwave to independent life, Megatron changed his plan and, with convincing logic, recruited Soundwave as a Decepticon warrior. {{storylink|Sound and Fury}}

When [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] and [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] arrived on Earth, Megatron, remembering Starscream's betrayal, was hesitant to act. After witnessing a battle between his soldiers and the Autobots, Megatron concluded that Blitzwing was too unstable, but Lugnut was genuinely loyal. He contacted Lugnut only, instructing him to locate the AllSpark, which would help restore him. Later, he also informed Lugnut about the Key. Unfortunately, Lugnut and Blitzwing were defeated and damaged by the Autobots, severing Lugnut's link with Megatron—and Megatron's only link to the outside world. {{storylink|Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found}}

[[File:Sumdac megatron's body.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Yeah, it's a fixer-upper.]]
Although Megatron himself was not mentally involved, his headless body was infected with [[space barnacle]]s, causing the barnacles to mutate into a semi-sentient form. After absorbing two mining bots and attacking a [[Sparkplug (Animated human)|miner]], it was defeated by Bumblebee and Prowl. Later, the body was discovered (minus space barnacles) by Isaac Sumdac and most likely brought back to his laboratory. Sumdac remarked that Megatron would be ''very'' pleased with the find... {{storylink|Nature Calls}}

[[File:MegRisingRebuilt.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Don't call it a comeback; I've been here for years.]]
Sumdac attempted to rebuild Megatron, but progress was slowed by a power failure. Frustrated, Megatron again contacted Lugnut and ordered him to bring him the AllSpark Key. This communication triggered Starscream's curiosity, and the treacherous jet located Megatron. Starscream didn't have time to <s>finish his speech</s> slay Megatron before he was distracted by the Autobots—and Megatron used that distraction to take Starscream by surprise and eject him from the lab. When Blitzwing and Lugnut arrived with the Key, Megatron revealed his true identity to his human "friend". Sumdac, seized by the mechanical hand he had so long used as a chair, could only watch and wail in horror as the Decepticon tyrant used the power of the AllSpark to reconstruct himself, more powerful than ever. Finally restored, he burst through the roof of [[Sumdac Tower]], to the horror of the Autobots and Starscream, ready to unleash his vengeance on all of them. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 1}}

[[File:PayThePiper.JPG|upright=1.1|left|thumb|"Will anyone else attempt to fill his shoes?"]] Megatron's revenge was quick and brutal. Trashing the Autobots in short order, he called his Decepticons to him. As Starscream bootlicked, Megatron powered up his fusion cannon to destroy the one responsible for his defeat—then used the AllSpark Key to send a painful power surge through Starscream, extinguishing the traitor's spark and reinforcing his authority over Blitzwing and Lugnut. He commanded them to "transform and rise up," and the three Decepticons took to the sky, using the Key to track the AllSpark.

[[File:Megatron Rising 2 All Spark Megs boom.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|This is not good...]] Finding it aboard the Autobots' ship, the Decepticons caused the ship to crash on [[Dinobot Island (Animated)|Dinobot Island]], where Megatron proceeded to beat the [[Slag (slang)|slag]] out of Optimus Prime. Getting into the ship, Megatron removed the AllSpark from its casing and placed it in his chest, preparing to devastate Earth before conquering Cybertron. However, Professor Sumdac used his knowledge of Megatron's circuitry to disrupt his equilibrium sensors, causing Megatron to drop the AllSpark Key. Optimus Prime used the Key to force a surge of power through the AllSpark within Megatron, causing it to explode and disperse its energy.

And yet, it was not a total loss for Megatron; despite the damage, he escaped and managed to abduct Sumdac. Once again, their fates were intertwined, only this time Sumdac was Megatron's prisoner. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 2}}

Establishing a base deep underground in a mine, Megatron quickly adjusted his plans after the loss of the AllSpark. During his battle aboard the Autobot ship, he had managed to download a partial [[space bridge]] schematic from their computers. He planned to use the space bridge to teleport himself, Lugnut, and Blitzwing to Cybertron, then conquer the planet from within. To facilitate this plan, Megatron used the captive Professor Sumdac to reverse-engineer the space bridge and fill in the "gaps" within the schematics. However, when a service bot suddenly malfunctioned, it was revealed that a shard of the AllSpark was embedded within it. This gave Megatron hope that the AllSpark was not destroyed, but dispersed throughout the city of Detroit. {{storylink|The Elite Guard}}

[[File:Swordscream.JPG|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Yes, Starscream, and we'll keep doing it until you get it right!]]
Finding out about the AllSpark fragments, however, didn't seem to result in any changes in his plans. Megatron received word from a spy that the Decepticons had begun making random assaults on the Autobots. He realized that they needed to make a concentrated effort in order to secure his victory. He had Lugnut and Blitzwing steal a tachyon transmitter from the [[Elite Guard]] so he could send his message, but was interrupted during his transmission by a revived Starscream. After quickly beating him to a pulp, Megatron relayed his commands to the spacefaring 'Cons, only to be repeatedly attacked by a seemingly invincible Starscream. The renegade even attempted to draw Megatron out with an AllSpark fragment. Megatron emerged victorious every time and was informed by his spy that all was going as planned: With his [[Decepticon Uprisings|forces now drawing the Autobots away from Cybertron]], Megatron could attack a weakened Cybertron from within as soon as his space bridge was completed. {{storylink|Mission Accomplished}}

Later, while at the Decepticon base, Lugnut detected an AllSpark energy signal emanating from Detroit. Megatron quickly dispatched Lugnut to retrieve the AllSpark shard before the Autobots could. Lugnut proceeded to praise his master's "grand and glorious plan", but Megatron, fed up with the adulation to the point of involuntary optic-twitching, curtly commanded his enforcer to get going. {{storylink|Garbage In, Garbage Out}} As Lugnut failed to retrieve this fragment, Megatron tasked Blitzwing with retrieving the next one the Decepticons detected. The triple-changer proved just as incapable when it came to securing AllSpark fragments. {{storylink|Velocity (episode)|Velocity}}

[[File:RiseoftheConstructicons-Megatron'sprivateblend.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Gentlemen, to evil.]]
When Lugnut and Blitzwing brought the [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructobots]] back to base, Megatron saw the advantage of keeping them alive, and he invited them to have a look at his space bridge schematics. Impressed by their knowledge, he decided to put them to work stealing supplies. After an encounter with [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], the Constructobots became convinced of "the funny guy's" less-than-noble intentions, and they returned to the mine to confront him. Megatron calmly slammed them both against a rock face and asked them to explain. He feigned shock and brought them in to discuss things over his own private oil blend. Megatron showed himself to be a bit of an oil connoisseur, possessing stylish little goblets for it made of twisted oil drums, as well as a secret stash of top-quality oil and a chamber to drink it in. Megatron spoke of the glories they could achieve as Constructicons: the adulation, the statues in their honor...the barrels of oil they could down. Ever the shrewd worker, it didn't take much for him to convince them to join up and he promptly sent them to the Autobot base to retrieve the AllSpark fragments. {{storylink|Rise of the Constructicons}}

[[File:Rise Constructicons Megatron what.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|Constructicons say WHAAAAAT?]]
When Starscream escaped from the Elite Guard's ship, Megatron received [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]]'s alert to the Autobots thanks to the stolen tachyon transmitter. Megatron had placed a bounty on the traitor and [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] (with the unknowing aid of Prowl) pretty much took the opportunity to bring him to the Decepticon leader. Lockdown contacted Megatron to confirm that he had captured a purple-ish "Starscream" (who was acting quite odd and cowardly) and agreed to meet at an abandoned warehouse for the exchange. As "Starscream" was brought to Megatron, Prowl, who was hiding on a rafter high above, accidentally scuffed a small bolt, which grabbed the Decepticons' attention. Not too long after, the Autobots appeared with another, different-colored Starscream. Megatron intercepted Lockdown's escape and announced confusedly that no one was to leave until they found out which was the true Starscream. However, it soon turned out that ''both'' Starscreams were clones with bombs in their [[spark]] chambers designed to destroy Megatron and the Autobots in one go. Not content to stand by and be blown up, Megatron quickly blasted the skylight of the warehouse and called for his Decepticons to transform and rise up, leaving the soon-to-explode clones with the Autobots. This turned out to be a mistake, as Prowl used the upgrades given to him by Lockdown to send the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clones]] into the air, and the fleeing Decepticons were caught in the wake of the blast. Still in one piece despite the explosion, Megatron later raised the bounty on Starscream—insisting on the ''real'' one this time. {{storylink|A Fistful of Energon}}

He was later contacted by [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]], who attempted to sell him a new weapon. Nothing came of this as Swindle was defeated before the deal could be closed. {{storylink|SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy}} Megatron also made some ''"secret"'' transmissions to [[Shockwave (Animated)|his double agent]] on Cybertron in order to settle his new plans for the coming Autobot-Decepticon war. {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}} Blitzwing also successfully retrieved the Constructicons for him. {{storylink|Sari, No One's Home}}

[[File:TFA ABTC1 Megatron Sumdac Hostage.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|"Did I tell you about the time I killed the cult leader?"]]
Megatron's plans finally seemed on the verge of fruition when Sumdac and the Constructicons completed the space bridge. However, some vital technical aspects made it inoperable. In order to remedy this, Megatron contacted Shockwave to learn who was Cybertron's leading [[space bridge technician]] which turned out to be the Autobot Bulkhead. Not wishing to leave Doctor Sumdac alone to sabotage the Constructicons' efforts, Megatron took him along as a hostage while he went to capture Bulkhead. Once he had the big Autobot in custody, Megatron threatened to use the [[Headmaster unit]] on him if he didn't help make the space bridge operational. To Megatron's satisfaction, Bulkhead agreed and finished the project. Just as the machine was activated both the Autobots and Starscream and his clone army attacked. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

The three-way free-for-all ironically forced Megatron and Optimus Prime to team up temporarily, but this quickly ended when Megatron used Prime's body as a shield against one of Starscream's clone's attacks. Despite putting up a decent resistance, Megatron was overwhelmed and held down by two of the Starscream clones. As the original Starscream gloated, he was head-jacked by Isaac Sumdac in the Headmaster unit. Sumdac prepared to fight the Decepticon leader himself but an unimpressed Megatron simply used his strength to throw the distracted Starscream clones at him then blasted the Headmaster unit off with his fusion cannon, quickly proving himself the victor. With Starscream incapacitated the clones sided with Megatron. He then made his own victory speech to his soldiers, declaring he would send Optimus through the bridge to test it. However, the Autobots got some reinforcements - in the form of their own ship, now revealed to be the surviving [[Omega Sentinel (Animated)|Omega Sentinel]] Omega Supreme. Megatron quickly ordered the majority of his forces to deal with this new menace while the Constructicons cleared the space bridge area of rubble. Grabbing Optimus, Megatron threw him into the portal but was frustrated when Prowl freed his leader in the nick of time at which point the bridge shut down. Bulkhead declared the power source wasn't strong enough to maintain the link for long so Megatron grabbed Starscream's AllSpark-powered head to maintain the gateway. However, this provided too much power, sending the space bridge portal out of control. An enraged Megatron decided to terminate Optimus Prime only for Optimus to slap [[stasis cuffs]] on him causing him to lose his grip and fall into the portal.

[[File:TFA ABTC2 Megatron Screamer End.jpg|upright=1.1|left|thumb|"Stop staring at me!"]]
With the overload having deleted the space bridge's receiving coordinates, the defeated Megatron was transported to some unknown sector of space. Still immobilized by the stasis cuffs, Megatron's only companion was now Starscream's head which a cruel twist of fate had deposited right next to him. Forced to remain face to face with his traitorous ex-lieutenant, Megatron could only trade verbal blows. A most cruel fate, indeed. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

After their bickering subsided, Starscream began trying to free Megatron from the stasis cuffs, but having no body was a hindrance. Megatron was only freed when Starscream revealed a previously unseen weapon from his mouth. Before they could react, Omega Supreme appeared, offline. Getting aboard him, Megatron was captured by Omega but was able to convince the simple processor-possessing behemoth to take him to Cybertron to face a war crimes tribunal. However, Omega Supreme's attempt to transwarp to Cybertron left them somewhere else in space but did drain Omega for the time being. Initially disgusted that he was trapped aboard the cause of the Decepticons' defeat without his weapons and only Starscream for company, Megatron soon realized that if he could reprogram Omega to serve him he would be at a great advantage.

Managing to hotwire the Autobot with the stasis cuffs and Starscream's AllSpark charged head, Megatron contacted Shockwave to give him a status report on the Earth space bridge. However, the situation was worse than Megatron realized: not only was the space bridge network shut down, but the Earth Autobots could expose Shockwave at any moment. Although Omega Supreme provided an advantage that could end both problems, Megatron decided that the space bridge invasion plan was a failure, and issued a fleet wide stand down order. Heading to Earth, Megatron attempted to use Omega to destroy the Autobots (even though he couldn't remember their names). However, Prowl and Optimus Prime managed to board Omega and sever Megatron's control over him. Unfortunately, Starscream managed to gain control over Omega Supreme, capturing Megatron again. Ever the manipulator, Megatron convinced Starscream that his time would be better spent conquering Cybertron. However, the Autobots managed to install the [[plasma dynamic thruster]] from Megatron's space bridge into Omega Supreme, sending Omega and the two Decepticons aboard warping through space randomly. {{storylink|TransWarped}}

When the Autobots became trapped in Soundwave's virtual reality, Megatron led the Decepticons into invading and attacking Detroit. As the Autobots realized what was going on Prowl was able to break free of Megatron's grip and severed his arm with a single swipe of his hand. He was later beaten by Optimus who destroyed his fusion cannon by tossing his axe at the cannon's barrel. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}

[[File:TFAni Decepticon Air Lugnut Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Don't you just hate it when fanboys keep following you?]]
Later, as Lugnut was floating through space following his half-successful escape from the Elite Guard flagship, Omega Supreme transwarped to directly in front of him and he smashed into the bridge window. When Starscream asked Megatron if they were picking up hitchhickers, Megatron simply slapped his head off its position. That was for asking stupid questions.{{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

Soon thereafter, Megatron gained control of Omega Supreme's transforming mechanism, and by detaching the plasma dynamic thruster was also able to direct their transwarp jumps; however, he could not get the weapons online without the proper access codes. Megatron brought the ship to Cybertron, where they could do little but float helplessly in the air; Megatron reasoned—correctly—that the Autobots would not dare fire on their own most famous weapon (though [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel "Magnus"]] sure wanted to). Megatron ordered Shockwave to hurry up his search for the access codes; once Shockwave successfully abducted Arcee and boarded the ship, they transwarped into Earth orbit right before Sentinel opened fire. Megatron welcomed Shockwave aboard as his "most loyal" servant, to the great concern of Lugnut. {{storylink|This Is Why I Hate Machines}}

Now on the moon, Megatron commanded Shockwave to extract the access codes from Arcee's mind. When Starscream re-attached his head to another clone body, Megatron pursued him and destroyed all the remaining clones, teasing Starscream for having always thought on a small scale. Megatron's ultimate plans for the protoforms aboard the ''Nemesis'' was to use them to create his own clone fleet of Omega Supremes—based on the personality template of his ''truly'' most loyal minion, Lugnut. That part of the plan went just fine, but Shockwave was still unable to get Arcee to do his bidding—perhaps because although she was fooled by his Longarm Prime persona, she saw the evil Megatron standing right behind him and refused to cooperate. After a few technical bypasses put Lugnut in mental command of the "[[Lugnut Supreme]]" fleet, Megatron ordered his new weapons to test their skills by destroying the Earthbound Autobots. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

[[File:TFA-Endgame-PanAcrossEveryone.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.34|...No Comment]]
Observing from within one of the Lugnut Supremes, Megatron's first target for destruction was his former prison, Sumdac Tower. But when the tower's forcefield proved impenetrable and Optimus Prime was able to destroy the Lugnut Supremes he was riding in and severely damage the other two by using the [[Magnus Hammer]], Megatron settled on a new plan: destroying everything that wasn't him. He flew cover over the advancing Lugnut Supremes, directly engaging Optimus Prime (at first mistaken for [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], then dismissed as a [[knockoff|"cheap imitation"]]) so Prime would not again be able to use the Magnus Hammer on the giants. As the battle raged and failures mounted, Megatron finally addressed Prime by his real name to the Autobot's bitter satisfaction. The two were later trapped within a prison of AllSpark energy—meant to seal in the timebomb that Starscream had secretly placed in one of the Lugnut Supremes.

[[File:StunticonJob-LugnutMegatronPrison.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|right|'''[[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]]''': Master, do you have anymore toilet paper? <br> '''Megatron''': WE'RE GIANT ROBOTS YOU ''BLOATED BEAN BAG'' [[Humanization|WHY DO YOU EVEN ''NEED'' TOILET PAPER?!?]]]]
Undeterred, Megatron accepted that even if he himself had to die he could at least take Prime with him. But Prowl's [[ghost]] was having none of that and Megatron soon found himself left alone to be blown up. Though massively damaged, he survived this and turned to attack the Autobots once more. He was quickly defeated by Optimus Prime and when Megatron wearily invited Prime ''to kill him'', Prime retorted that that would be "the easy way out" which he claimed Megatron did not deserve. Megatron was placed in [[stasis cuffs]] and arrested, then brought back to Cybertron and displayed as a prisoner before the cheering Autobot masses. {{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}

''He was incarcerated in [[Trypticon Prison]] and [[Team Stunticon]] failed to rescue him.'' {{storylink|The Stunti-Con Job}} ''While this happened Shockwave's old [[Kremzeek]] program became active and began making its way to Fortress Maximus to destroy Cybertron. Megatron then questioned what could prompt Shockwave to create such a stupid program and the scientist meekly admitted that the program was only supposed to be activated if they were not on Cybertron.'' {{storylink|The Return of Blurr}}

''If [[Cyclonus (Animated)|Cyclonus]] is to be believed Megatron will become '''Galvatron''' in the future and kill [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]].'' {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

===''Quest for the AllSpark''===
Megatron took to hanging around [[Internet|online]] using the alias "Meg A. Tron". Masquerading thusly, he was able to recruit the unwitting help of [[Heinz Von Furstwartz|Professor Heinz Von Furstwartz]] in his scheme to sow confusion amongst the Autobots and get a hold of the AllSpark. He was also able to take control of Detroit's legion of robot workers forcing the Autobots to enact an elaborate plan to keep the AllSpark safe. {{storylink|Quest for the AllSpark}}
===Titan Magazines===
[[File:MegatronTitan23.jpg|thumb|"NIXON'S BAAACK!"]]
Apart from showing interest in the activities of [[Quake-Maker]], {{storylink|Animated Comic issue 1|Burnout!}} Megatron seemed idle... but what the Autobots were unaware of was that he'd constructed a Spark-less drone unit, [[Afterburn]], as a prototype of a future army, and then sent Afterburn off to spy on the Autobots.

He not only received repeated communications from his spy but gained directions to the Autobot base! Megatron entered with explosive results {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Divebomb}} and then ''killed'' Afterburn while rubbing [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s nose in it. He proceeded to summon the other Decepticons and thrash most of the Autobots with ease making some really bad puns along the way, only stopped when [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] secretly got him buried under a crane. Starscream then "saved" him, making Megatron think he'd turned over a new leaf and thus giving him temporary command until he got better. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Megatron's Revenge}}
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===Animated shorts===
[[File:MockMegs-bunny.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|If only [[Cyclonus (Animated)|he]] was around to see this]]
While Megatron gave an inspirational speech to his Decepticons (which seemed to be very similar to [[Mission Accomplished|another message]] he'd sent out), Starscream proceeded to make fun of him behind his back—making faces, giving Megatron bunny ears, and shaking his butt at his leader. Megatron was suspicious of Starscream's actions, but each time he turned to look, his lieutenant was standing there innocently, doing nothing unseemly. Megatron apparently decided to let it go, as did the other Decepticons (even Lugnut), until he finally caught Starscream in mid-heckle and dealt with him by blasting him through a wall. {{storylink|Starscream Heckles Megatron}}
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===''The Cool'' comic===
[[File:TheCoolMegatronChokesPrime01.jpg|thumb|right|250px|All aboard the Crazy Train! ''Toot! Toot!'']]
Stumbling across Optimus Prime's band of Autobots, who had recently discovered the long-lost Allspark, Megatron pursued the Space Bridge repair crew relentlessly even after they lost the rest of Megatron's band of Decepticons by going through a Space Bridge gate. Having invaded the Autobot's ship, he beat down the entirety of its crew, save for their leader. Though already having all-but lost an arm in combat when he confronted Optimus, Megatron engaged in vicious melee combat, gloating all-the-while that the Universe would be under his possession when the Allspark would be in his possession. Defiantly, Optimus managed to expulse Megatron from the ship's cargo bay door as the vessel was plummeting though the Earth's atmosphere, reducing the mighty Decepticon to a smoldering head, to be discovered by a young boy...{{storylink|The Cool Extra issue 3}}

At some point, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] double-crossed Megatron and attempted to kill him. Unbeknownst to anyone, Megatron's head survived his destruction and had hooked into [[Detroit]]'s closed-circuit video surveillance system. Following the dispersion of the [[AllSpark]] (and Starscream's apparent demise), Megatron became intrigued by [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari's]] [[AllSpark Key|key]] after she used it to bring [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] back to life. Interests piqued, Megatron declared the time was right to initiate the next phase of his operation. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 2}}

Megatron eventually got his hands on the key and used its power to revive himself. After killing Starscream, Megatron engaged Optimus Prime in a sword-to-axe duel. The outcome of that fight is unknown though apparently the Autobots survived the day. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 5}}

Megatron later hired [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] to capture the (somehow still alive) Starscream. Lockdown mistakenly captured [[Clone number 3370318|Clone #3370318]] instead while the Autobots captured [[Clone number 2716057|Clone #2716057]]. Megatron was met with both clones at his meeting place in a warehouse and demanded to know why there were ''two'' Starscreams. When the clones turned out to be bombs Megatron attempted to flee in helicopter mode only to be chased down by the explosives after [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] attached a pair of rockets to them. Megatron screamed in confusion as he was caught in the explosion. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 6}}

With the [[space bridge#Animated cartoon|Space Bridge]] nearly completed, Megatron was caught off-guard by a surprise attack from Optimus Prime and the Autobots. Clashing sword with Prime's axe, Megatron arrogantly told the Autobot he could never win, though his efforts were amusing. Megatron was then met by a second surprise: an attack by Starscream and his [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Clone Army]]. Megatron was forced to fight side by side with Optimus but quickly dissolved the partnership when he use Prime as a shield to block one of [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]]'s shots. Dropping Prime's smoking body, Megatron informed all listening that the universe belonged to him. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 7}}

[[image:TheCool10TitlePage01.jpg|thumb|250px|left|]]
Megatron then installed the severed head of Starscream into the Space Bridge in order to power it with his AllSpark fragment. The fragment proved ''too'' powerful and caused the Space Bridge to overload. Optimus recovered and took Megatron's distraction as an opportunity to defeat the villain once and for all. Slapping a pair of stasis cuffs on him, Optimus kicked Megatron in the jaw and sent him hurtling into the vortex. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 8}}

Megatron found himself warped to the same coordinates as Starscream's head and Omega Supreme. Megatron attempted to use Starscream's [[spark]] to jumpstart Omega Supreme but the plan backfired and Starscream took control of Omega's systems. Starscream sized Megatron in his giant hand and, taunting him returned to [[Earth]] for vengeance against the Autobots. Megatron would not be so easily defeated however, and breaking free teamed with Optimus Prime to sever Starscream's connection to Omega. That dealt with, Megatron and Optimus then agreed to end their rivalry with a final battle. Flying off into the sky, the enemies clashed sword with hammer. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 9}}

Megatron found himself outmatched by Optimus's Wingblade and Magnus Hammer however, and chose to even the odds by blasting his foe with his fusion cannon powered by Starscream's AllSpark fragment! The blast blew Optimus to pieces, but just to be sure Megatron impaled his foe through the spark chamber with his sword anyway. Optimus refused to be beaten and absorbed the power of the AllSpark fragment into himself... somehow. Repaired and now apparently invincible, Prime mopped the floor with Megatron. The defeated [[Emperor of Destruction]] was then carted back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] in shackles. {{storylink|The Cool Episode Final}}
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==Games==
===Transformers Animated: The Game===
{{voiceactor|[[Corey Burton]] (English)}}
[[File:TFAnimated Game Megatron.jpg|thumb|left|126px|Helmet design provided by Lego.]]
After completing a space bridge terminal in his hidden mine base on [[Earth]], Megatron began to prepare to attack Cybertron. He hired [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] to collect [[AllSpark]] fragments to power his Space Bridge and obtained enough to do so, however while he was in the process of powering it up [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]'s team found the base and attacked him. Though he boasted he could beat them easily without the use of weapons they used an electromagnet to defeat him and he was forced to escape by transwarping to Cybertron.

There, he was able to take control of some of the planetary defense systems driving the Autobots away from the [[Space Bridge Nexus]] and sent out a message ordering his forces to take control of the Space Bridges around the rim of the galaxy. [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] soon reported that they'd captured more than a dozen Space Bridges. Before Megatron could take control of the nexus, Optimus's team caught up with him. Commandeering some of the defense systems, they managed to defeat him. Growling that the Decepticons would rise again, Megatron transwarped out to parts unknown. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The Game}}
===Transformers Animated: ''Action Packs''===
{{note|Megatron is featured as a playable game card. He is a silver card, has a value of 6 points and has the following power: "+1 to every Decepticon in play."}} {{storylink|Transformers Animated: Action Packs}}
===Transformers Battle Universe===
At the edge of time, when the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] needed a new host, Megatron was among several warriors (and [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatrons]]) summoned from the multiverse to battle for control of the prize. {{storylink|Transformers Battle Universe}}
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==Toys==
===Animated===
====Deluxe Class====
[[File:TFAnimated Deluxe BattleBegins Megatron toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|SPAAAACE ROOOAAACH!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs. Megatron: The Battle Begins''' (Entertainment Pack, 2008)

:Megatron transforms into a sleek spacecraft with, er, VTOL turbofans (presumably designed to show some lineage with his eventual helicopter mode. It's best if you don't think about it too hard). His signature fusion cannon forms the central chassis and cockpit section of the spacecraft (officially, a "Fusion Fighter"); his sword sections mount on the sides of the cannon for storage, though the blade is unremovable and effectively useless. Like the [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Prime]] figure he comes with, he features a punching gimmick, having a spring-loaded waist that snaps back when twisted. Unfortunately, Megatron's balljoint hips and the swivel joints between his thighs and knees are rather loose, making it difficult to pose the figure in such a way that he stands on his own. The figure features a silver color scheme and battle damage paint applications. Also included was [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video#Pack-in disc|a DVD]] featuring the first episode of ''Transformers Animated''.

:The design makes it tricky to tell which end of his Fusion Fighter mode is the front and which is the back.

:This toy was also released in a 2-pack with Prowl as a [[Walmart]] [[exclusive]] (see below).

:If you want to be pedantic about it, the battle implied by the battle-pack pairing is technically a timeline impossibility, insofar as it depicts Cybertron Mode Megatron versus Earth Mode Optimus. It is also [[scale]]d incorrectly, as Megatron was shown as being notably larger than Optimus in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]".

:This mold was used to make the third prize of the [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/BattleBeginsMegatron/megatron.htm More information on "The Battle Begins" Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:TF-Animated-VSF-Fight-of-Start-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|]]
*'''Fight of Start''' (Deluxe 2-pack, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-F'''

:For its Japanese release, "Battle Begins" Megatron was given a shinier metallic paint job (sans battle damage) and white-bordered Decepticon symbols, like the majority of the TakaraTomy ''Animated'' toys. The figure was only available in a 2-pack with a redecoed version of the Deluxe-scale CYBERTRON Mode Optimus Prime.

:The title of this set in Japanese is "hajimari no taiketsu" - which amounts to "the battle begins" when translated, but the back of the box chooses to render the phrase as "Fight of Start". [[Engrish|Oh well...]]

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[[File:AniDXMegsGoldVersion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| All that glitters is gold.]]
*'''Megatron Gold Version''' (Deluxe, 2011)

:A gold-chromed version of the Deluxe-class Battle Begins Megatron, Megatron Gold Version was made available to residents of Japan via a lottery. There were several ways to enter the drawing for him: one could clip out and send in a barcode from a single standard ''Animated'' toy or a single standard ''Autobot Alliance'' live action film series toy (or four EZ Collection barcodes), '''or''' send in 5 Sega Transformers trading cards, '''or''' cut out and send in the appropriate portion of the character cards included with volumes 4 or 5 of Paramount of Japan's ''Animated'' DVDs or the "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge]] Greatest Hits" DVD. The entry period of the drawing was November 1st, 2010 to January 16th, 2011. In 2014, Megatron Gold Version is one of the prize figures that is re-issued (probably remaining stock) again for the ''Transformers Celebration 2014'' event held at Ikebukuro Sunshine City store's Toys"R"Us.

:Megatron Gold Version was limited to 1,000 pieces.

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====Voyager Class====
[[File:Animated megatron voyager.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Curse you, Earth's atmosphere! ''(Hasbro version pictured)'']]
[[File:TFA-TA06-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''(TakaraTomy version pictured)'']]
*'''CYBERTRON Mode Megatron''' (Voyager, 2008/2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-06'''
**''Accessories'': Missile

: A larger, bulkier, more detailed, and more gimmick-laden iteration of the same character design used in the deluxe-scaled versus pack toy. Note that while both modes of both toys look very similar, they have different transformation mechanisms and are not a simple upscaling/downscaling of each other. Where the deluxe version is straight silver, this version has a pearl-gray paint scheme. The figure features an [[Automorph Technology|automorph]] gimmick in the chest, which closes like a clamshell in transforming to robot mode. A second automorph gimmick is built into the energon blades on the cannon, swinging them into place to form a polearm. Red translucent plastic is heavily used throughout the figure, including in the light piping for the head and the missile for the spring-loaded cannon. Even his ''fingers'' are made of energon, it seems.

:This toy apparently had a safety modification done late on in the design process (late enough that it doesn't show up on the instructions), possibly as a result of drop test failure. The strut that holds his fusion cannon has been reinforced, and as a result, his cannon cannot be mounted flush against his arm. It is also noted that his cannon easily pops off.

:As with the smaller figure above, it's not obvious exactly what end is the front of his spaceship mode. Neither orientation really matches up to the version seen in the show, which had the fusion cannon mounted in a way that's impossible with both toys.

:The TakaraTomy version, much like the Deluxe Class figure released in the same country, coats much of his gray plastics in metallic silver.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/VoyagerMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Cybertron Mode Megatron at TFU.info]''

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====Leader Class====
[[File:Animated megatron leader.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"I kill you till you're dead!" ''(Hasbro Version pictured)'']]
[[File:TFA-TA26-Light-and-Sound-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''(TakaraTomy Version Pictured)'']]
*'''Megatron''' (Leader, 2008/2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-26'''
**''Accessories'' Missile, 2 rotor-swords

: Megatron's "Earth" robot mode bears a significant resemblance to Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars story pages and comic|Super Megatron]] from the ''Battlestars'' storyline, and thus, in turn, to his original G1 body. His alt-mode is a dual-rotored helicopter design, somewhat like an [[Incinerator (Movie)|Osprey]] [[Obsidian (BM)|helicopter]] or the [[Cobra]] Mamba. Its rotors form double-bladed swords. The fusion cannon is attached to the left arm out of the box, but it can be detached and put on either arm. It has wheels for use in vehicle mode, and if it is removed, then (undocumented) landing gear can be deployed to make up for the loss. Interestingly, it seems the alt-mode was originally intended to allow for the removal of the cannon without removal of the bottom half of the fuselage. With a fair amount of force the cannon can be popped off (and will reattach), but the cannon mount/fuselage lower half does not provide the front landing gear with sufficient clearance to fully extend. The toy has a [[Gimmick|voice chip]], activated by pressing the Decepticon symbol on his chest. If used in robot mode it says one of three quotes: "Crush the Autobots!", "Where is the AllSpark?", and (glorious) evil laughter. All three lines are terrifically cheesy, as you might guess. In helicopter mode it makes the sound of the rotors warming up, spinning, and powering down. When the cockpit is moved during transformation the classic G1/Animated [[Transformation#The noise|transformation noise]] is heard. It is compatible with the [[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]] toy, but it does not change his quotes.

: Due to being used with transformation, Megatron's legs gave an unfortunate impression of him wanting to go for an oil leak (read:bathroom break) if stood straight, unless the legs are adjusted by give him a slightly wide stance to compensate this.

: The instructions leave a couple of things out. First, the shoulders should be pushed backwards/upwards for vehicle mode. This lowers the wings down and aligns the front of the engines with the back. Second, the barrel of the cannon can be rotated 180 degrees (at a separate pivot from the one at its base) for robot mode, to better match how it looks in the cartoon, with the red stripes facing his arm. Considering how padded the instructions are to mask the relatively simple transformation (two whole steps just to move the rear landing gear), leaving all this out is quite a feat. Bad Hasbro.

:There is no doubt whatsoever as to which end is the front and which is the back of his vehicle mode.

: The TakaraTomy version of the toy, titled "'''Megatron Light & Sound'''", features a metallic silver and red paint job, and replaces the English voice clips with typically hammy Japanese ones by [[Norio Wakamoto]]: "I am Megatron" in Japanese and "Megatron, transform!" and "Fusion Cannon!" in [[Engrish]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm More information on Leader Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:SBAniMegs..jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I defy the Unicron Trilogy. Defy it, I say!]]
*'''Shadow Blade Megatron''' (Leader, 2008)

: A [[Black repaint|black]], grey and purple redeco of Megatron's leader class mold with a slight remolding to the tail... that's NOT called [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Galvatron]]. YeabuhWHA?

:Surprisingly for a Hasbro produced redeco, Shadow Blade Megatron is cast entirely in black plastic with the exception of his translucent parts. His nose is not painted, so whenever his lights light up...his nose glows red.

: Many units of this figure have a slight molding problem that prevents him from actually moving his face when the Decepticon insignia is pressed. However, as many units are also unaffected, this may have been an inconsistent problem or corrected by a running change.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/SBMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Shadow Blade Megatron at TFU.info]''

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====Activators====
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[[File:TFA-Activators-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Transform and shrink down!"]]
*'''Megatron''' (Activators, 2008)

:Part of the fourth wave of [[Activators]], this version of Megatron is a very simplified, roughly-Basic-sized version of his Earth mode. His spring-loaded transformation from vehicle to robot mode is activated by a single switch on the back of his copter mode. A simplified transformation means most of his Helicopter kibble hungs on his back. Unlike most ''Animated'' Activators, Megatron features a sculpted insignia.

:Despite having a cannon on the bottom of his vehicle mode, he does not possess one on either arm in robot mode, and the robot mode art in the instructions still depict him possessing a detachable fusion cannon accessory.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/ActMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Activators Megatron at TFU.info]''

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*'''Animated Super Collection Vol. 1''' (multipack, 2010)

: Released in October 2010 in Japan, the "Animated Super Collection Vol. 1" giftset contained slight redecos of Activators Megatron, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]], [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] and [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]. Like Activators Optimus Prime, Megatron is unchanged from it's American release.

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===Mini EZ Collection===
[[File:TFA-Mini-EZ-Colle-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Megatron''' (Mini EZ Collection, unreleased)

:Intended to be released as part of TakaraTomy's new ''Mini EZ Collection'' line, Megatron is an all new, 2-inch mold that converts from robot into a futuristic helicopter, although the simplified transformation makes him looks like he's lying down.

:The figures were set for a November 2010 release, But it was quietly canceled.

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====Fast Food toys====
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[[File:McdonaldsAnimatedMegatron.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nope, it's still just a robot lying down.]]
*'''Megatron''' (McDonald's Happy Meal Toys, 2008)

:This is a very simple representation of Megatron in his Earth form. It transforms by rotating the head, lying face down and flipping the arms onto the back. The robot mode seems to have taken priority in the design process, since the vehicle mode looks like his robot mode lying down. Megatron does not come with his signature arm cannon.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/McMegatron/megatron.htm More information on McDonald's Megatron at TFU.info]''

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[[File:TFA McD Megatron Jumpstarter.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Look on the bright side: at least he has his arm cannon this time.]]
*'''Megatron''' (McDonald's Happy Meal toys, 2008)

:This is a very simplistic version of Megatron, he converts from non-articulated robot mode to a "folded" robot with three wheels (which is a very non-show-accurate alt-mode). Like the G1 [[Jumpstarter]]s toys he features a pull-back motor in vehicle mode that propels him forward on smooth surfaces; after a short run the latch that keeps his spring-loaded legs releases, causing him to flip forward and into upright robot mode.
:Like the rest of his assortment, this Megatron was only available in Brazil, Mexico and Venezuela.

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====Other====

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[[File:MarauderMegatron.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Tonight, I dine on turtle soup!]]
*'''Marauder Megatron'''
**''Accessories:'' Missiles

:A mold of Megatron as a [[Triple Changer]] in the canceled fourth season. He has a jet mode and a tank mode, and his robot mode head has a muzzle-like plate over the mouth in a homage to ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] also based the design on [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars story pages and comic|Super and Ultra Megatron]] from ''[[Transformers: Return of Convoy (franchise)| Return of Convoy]]''. [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt/q/878717866]

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==Notes==
[[File:AnimatedMegatronMovieHat.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|They moonlight as lawn darts.]]

[[File:AnimatedMegatronAltmode.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|"''That's'' a ship?!" "Who cares, as long as it flies."]]

[[File:AniMegsKatana.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|Where is my [[fusion cannon]]?! All Megatrons should have them! ALL OF THEM, I TELL YOU!!!]]

* Megatron's pre-Earth head has a rather pointed resemblance to the somewhat early head of 2007 movie's [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], which went unused in the actual movie but appeared on loads of promotional materials and merchandise. Also in common with Movie Megatron, ''Animated'' Megatron lay inert for many years while his technology was [[Sector Seven|reverse-engineered by humans]].
* He is, additionally, [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|not the only Megatron]] to spend time as [[Grand Mal|a giant, disembodied head]].
* Megatron's cannon makes the same sound as his [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Generation 1 counterpart]]'s weapon, except with additional effects mixed in to make it actually sound like a laser cannon and not a blender.
* Megatron's outer space alt mode, shown for all of 20 seconds, has ''two'' toy molds devoted to it. Though these "Cybertron mode" toys resemble each other, neither looks anything like the alt mode of the pre-Earth Megatron seen on the show.
* Megatron is the only one of the original 5 Decepticons in ''Animated'' actually to have a Cybertronian vehicle mode design. Although the others have different robot mode kibble before they scan their Earth modes, none of them had an alt-mode created. Having a toy helps (this is in contrast to the Autobots, who all had Cybertronian-modes designed for them from the start, even if we didn't see them in the first episode).
* Sumdac found Megatron's head intact in its original Cybertronian mode. The head housed in his lab, however, is essentially a damaged version of his Earth-mode head. Presumably, this change is the result of Sumdac's destructive tinkering and research over the fifty years Megatron was in stasis lock.
* According to ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The Allspark Almanac]]'', Megatron's Earth mode cockpit seats five.
* When he was a disembodied head, Megatron had a pupil in his right eye, similar to the Autobots. Once he regained his body, this never appeared again.
* An early image of Megatron's Earth body had slight differences from the finished product, most notably the lack of a fusion cannon and the presence of a katana instead of his twin swords. This image originally appeared as part of an Amazon.com listing for [[Transformers Animated Volume 2|volume 2]] of [[IDW Publishing]]'s screenshot-based ''[[Transformers Animated (IDW)|Transformers Animated]]'' adaption series.
* In the initial planning phases of the never-greenlit fourth season, Megatron would have broken out of prison on Cybertron and become a [[Triple Changer]], as detailed in the ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The Allspark Almanac II]]''.
*In the Transformers Animated profile shorts, Megatron is introduced to the audience by Optimus in "[[Meet Megatron]]."

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Megatron''' (メガトロン ''Megatoron'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Wēi Zhèn Tīan''' (威震天, "Extremely Prestigious", literally "Heaven-shaking Might")

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2020-07-05T03:10:14Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in the ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' cartoon, he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} form. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} I would really like to know why. Hopefully, we will find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It says why in the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::It only explains the second part.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 17:33, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:::Did you look in the Timelines section of the article where Theft of the Golden Disk is actually covered? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:13, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::::Yeah, but it says his body without his removable armor/armour transforms into a hovertank, which makes me ask, in "Beast Wars" Part 1, his body has no hovertank parts unlike his Cybertron form. It doesn't necessarily answer my question. [[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 23:09, 4 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity

2020-07-05T03:09:35Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in the ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' cartoon, he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} form. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} I would really like to know why. Hopefully, we will find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It says why in the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::It only explains the second part.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 17:33, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:::Did you look in the Timelines section of the article where Theft of the Golden Disk is actually covered? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:13, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::::Yeah, but it says his body without his removable armor/armour transforms into a hovertank, which makes me ask, in "Beast Wars" Part 1, his body has no hovertank parts unlike his Cybertron form. It doesn't necessarily answer my question. [[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 23:09, 4 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity

2020-07-02T21:33:17Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in the ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' cartoon, he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} form. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} I would really like to know why. Hopefully, we will find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It says why in the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::It only explains the second part.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 17:33, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity

2020-07-02T21:33:06Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in the ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' cartoon, he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} form. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} I would really like to know why. Hopefully, we will find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It says why in the article. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 14:54, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::It only explains the second part.

Talk:Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity

2020-07-02T17:49:33Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in the ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' cartoon, he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} form. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}} I would really like to know why. Hopefully, we will find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity

2020-07-02T15:23:53Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk */ new section

I kinda feel the way we have this and Primal's pages laid out is dishonest, because the Beast Machines stuff should be before the Universe stuff.

(Also I don't think we have to move off The Razor's Edge stuff from the Timelines stuff, it's just a version that happened in Wingsverse.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:Whoops, disregard second part, I think Mimi's just making it more chorological order. I like that. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::Mostly because Pete straight out said Razor's Edge and Theft aren't always in continuity with DoFP. There isn't really a way to say "this is in continuity with this in this case, but not that case", which is annoying. All of 3H is in continuity with each other, though, which is why they're constrained to one neat section. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 20:04, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

==Megatron design ==

Well, I'm not sure where it belongs more, here or in the Theft of The Golden Disk, but doesn't the Megatron's Alt-Mode look suspiciously like the Cybertron Defense Red Alert's? Especially since it came 2 years after Cybertron?
:[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Timelines]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:21, 30 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok. Sorry, haven't noticed that one.

== Razorclaw reality and Waspscream reality Megatrons ==

Currently the two Megatrons killed by Minion Generals Razorclaw and Obsidian only have short paragraphs at the end of the "3H comics" section, but AVP has given much more detail about those universes, including their Megatrons. How shall we organize this page for them? Make entirely new sections? Make sub-sections under "3H comics"? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:55, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
:I'd vote for sub-sections personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

== Theft of the Golden Disk ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Megatron is shown to be able to transform into a hovertank. However, in ''Beast Wars'', he doesn't have the parts of his hovertank mode and is seen to be more humanoid than his {{storylink|Timelines}} forms. I would really like to know why, so hopefully, we could find out soon.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 11:23, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T15:01:44Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the ''Timelines'' section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T15:00:11Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the {{storylink|Timelines}} section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:58:32Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the [[Category:Timelines]] section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:48:24Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the {{storylink|Timelines}} section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:47:57Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the ''Timelines{{storylink|Timelines}}'' section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:47:06Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the ''#REDIRECT Timelines'' section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:46:53Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the ''#REDIRECTTimelines'' section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:45:35Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Does anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
:It is literally already in the article. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (EDT)
::Oh... It was in the ''[[Timelines]]'' section.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:44, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:44:54Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:07:07Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */

Talk:Dinobot (BW)

2020-07-02T14:06:37Z

T0nySt1nk: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) */ new section

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (should we have a new section of the article for this?) ==

Because Dinobot played a role in Theft of the Golden Disk, I think we should have a section of this in the article. Did anyone agree with me?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-07-02T13:12:45Z

T0nySt1nk: /* FOC-RID Grimlock */

===Rescue Bots Academy?===
So, what do we do with [https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/05/09/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-new-stock-images-academy-rescue-team-4-pack-and-rescan-assortment-new-rescan-grimlock-toy-387997#images ''Rescue Bots Academy'' Grimlock], previewed [https://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=621&size=2&image=0 at Toy Fair]? Since he doesn't obviously correspond to either ''RID'' (2015) or ''FOC'' Grimlock, do we just give him his own page as a <strike>toy-only</strike> separate character until we find out otherwise? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:He's not a toy-only character. He's been in the show's intro since the start. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 08:29, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:: Okay, but the question still stands. [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
::: His characterization seems to be more in line with FOC, given he's shown to be old friends with other FOC Dinobots. I suggest we move him to FOC Grimlock. {{unsigned|Drift2341156887}}
::::No. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:00, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
RBA Grimlock is RID Grimlock. He has the same basic personality, he explicitly references events and characters from RID, name-dropping Scowl and Underbite in his debut episodes. It's not ambiguous at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:06, 9 May 2020 (EDT)

== FOC-RID Grimlock ==

Unlike the FOC Grimlock, the RID 2015 Grimlock green and black. Why is this so? They are the same, for FOC and RID 2015 are both part of the Aligned continuity. Also, why did Grimlock become a Decepticon? [[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 21:52, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
: [[Grimlock_(RID_2015)#Two_Grimlocks?]] [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 21:53, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
Also, I think we should merge this article with the FOC Grimlock article. After all, they are both from the Aligned continuity, and share the same name and alt mode.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 22:49, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
:...Did you seriously not read the article? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:14, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
::::::Oh.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 08:48, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-07-02T12:48:00Z

T0nySt1nk: /* FOC-RID Grimlock */

===Rescue Bots Academy?===
So, what do we do with [https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/05/09/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-new-stock-images-academy-rescue-team-4-pack-and-rescan-assortment-new-rescan-grimlock-toy-387997#images ''Rescue Bots Academy'' Grimlock], previewed [https://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=621&size=2&image=0 at Toy Fair]? Since he doesn't obviously correspond to either ''RID'' (2015) or ''FOC'' Grimlock, do we just give him his own page as a <strike>toy-only</strike> separate character until we find out otherwise? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:He's not a toy-only character. He's been in the show's intro since the start. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 08:29, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:: Okay, but the question still stands. [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
::: His characterization seems to be more in line with FOC, given he's shown to be old friends with other FOC Dinobots. I suggest we move him to FOC Grimlock. {{unsigned|Drift2341156887}}
::::No. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:00, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
RBA Grimlock is RID Grimlock. He has the same basic personality, he explicitly references events and characters from RID, name-dropping Scowl and Underbite in his debut episodes. It's not ambiguous at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:06, 9 May 2020 (EDT)

== FOC-RID Grimlock ==

Unlike the FOC Grimlock, the RID 2015 Grimlock green and black. Why is this so? They are the same, for FOC and RID 2015 are both part of the Aligned continuity. Also, why did Grimlock become a Decepticon? [[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 21:52, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
: [[Grimlock_(RID_2015)#Two_Grimlocks?]] [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 21:53, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
Also, I think we should merge this article with the FOC Grimlock article. After all, they are both from the Aligned continuity, and share the same name and alt mode.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 22:49, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
:...Did you seriously not read the article? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:14, 1 July 2020 (EDT)
:....Oh.[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 08:48, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-07-02T02:49:49Z

T0nySt1nk: /* FOC-RID Grimlock */

User:T0nySt1nk

2020-06-29T03:33:33Z

T0nySt1nk:

Hi! I wish to have an Autobot/Decepticon alliance under the Pax Cybertronia. The faction combination is called Autocon. Everyone requires logic and the ability to live with yourself.I also have a counterpart named Dreadlocktronus.
#REDIRECT https://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:Dreadlocktronus
Subscribe to me on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGk_k0u5-4GCPHT5S_75rnQ

P.S. I just use the Mercenary insignia to indicate the combination.
{{factions|Autocon}}

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-06-29T01:52:34Z

T0nySt1nk: /* FOC-RID Grimlock */

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-06-29T01:52:20Z

T0nySt1nk: /* FOC-RID Grimlock */

===Rescue Bots Academy?===
So, what do we do with [https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/05/09/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-new-stock-images-academy-rescue-team-4-pack-and-rescan-assortment-new-rescan-grimlock-toy-387997#images ''Rescue Bots Academy'' Grimlock], previewed [https://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=621&size=2&image=0 at Toy Fair]? Since he doesn't obviously correspond to either ''RID'' (2015) or ''FOC'' Grimlock, do we just give him his own page as a <strike>toy-only</strike> separate character until we find out otherwise? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:He's not a toy-only character. He's been in the show's intro since the start. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 08:29, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
:: Okay, but the question still stands. [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
::: His characterization seems to be more in line with FOC, given he's shown to be old friends with other FOC Dinobots. I suggest we move him to FOC Grimlock. {{unsigned|Drift2341156887}}
::::No. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:00, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
RBA Grimlock is RID Grimlock. He has the same basic personality, he explicitly references events and characters from RID, name-dropping Scowl and Underbite in his debut episodes. It's not ambiguous at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:06, 9 May 2020 (EDT)

== FOC-RID Grimlock ==

Unlike the FOC Grimlock, the RID 2015 Grimlock green and black. Why is this so? They are the same, for FOC and RID 2015 are both part of the Aligned continuity. Also, why did Grimlock become a Decepticon?[[User:T0nySt1nk|T0nySt1nk]] ([[User talk:T0nySt1nk|talk]]) 21:52, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)

2020-06-29T01:50:24Z

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2020-06-29T01:31:08Z

T0nySt1nk:

Hi! I wish to have an Autobot/Decepticon alliance under the Pax Cybertronia. The faction combination is called Autocon. Everyone requires logic and the ability to live with yourself.{{factions|mercenary}} I also have a counterpart named Dreadlocktronus.
#REDIRECT https://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:Dreadlocktronus
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P.S. I just use the Mercenary insignia to indicate the combination.

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2020-06-29T01:30:19Z

T0nySt1nk:

Hi! I wish to have an Autobot/Decepticon alliance under the Pax Cybertronia. The faction combination is called Autocon. Everyone requires logic and the ability to live with yourself.{{factions|mercenary}} I also have a counterpart named Dreadlocktronus.
#REDIRECT https://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:Dreadlocktronus
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2020-06-29T01:26:33Z

T0nySt1nk:

Hi! I wish to have an Autobot/Decepticon alliance under the Pax Cybertronia. The faction combination is called Autocon. Everyone requires logic and the ability to live with yourself.{{factions|Autocon}} I also have a counterpart named Dreadlocktronus.
#REDIRECT https://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:Dreadlocktronus
Subscribe to me on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGk_k0u5-4GCPHT5S_75rnQ

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2020-06-28T21:30:03Z

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T0nySt1nk: Created page with "Join me in my quest to bring peace, balance, and harmony to Cybertron."

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