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User talk:Takeshi357

2016-10-29T03:20:35Z

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==Blanking your talk page==
Don't do that. See [[Transformers Wiki: User page]] for details. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 07:46, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:Yeah, god forbid I actually try to engage a fucking discussion before making edits. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 08:50, 16 February 2016 (EST)

==Removing user notices==
Please don't remove the user notices. They're there for a reason. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:59, 23 February 2016 (EST)

== Japanese spelling for Cybertron ==

To answer your question, yes, "Seibertron" is a common fan spelling for the classic Japanese name of Cybertron, セイバートロン. But for whatever reason, the powers that be decided that both "Seibātoron" the planet and "Saibatoron" the faction in Japanese should be romanized identically despite the pronouciation difference. And we the editors of this wiki have to accept official sources. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 11 March 2016 (EST)

==Blanking your talk page returns==
As you have been told ''multiple times'', do not blank your user talk page. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:55, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 20:27, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
::Because it's against wiki policy to be allowed to whitewash your record. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:32, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:::Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 11:58, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
::::[[Transformers Wiki:User page]]--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:21, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
:::::That does not answer the question. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 18:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::It's important to keep track of talk page history so everyone is treated fairly. User talk pages are regarded as a public space, so please don't delete material from them unless you're archiving it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::Also, being a petulant child about wiki policy and repeatedly ignoring admin warnings is a nice quick way to not have an account anymore. So, yannow, reel it back. --[[User:A Fucking Cunt|A Fucking Cunt]] ([[User talk:A Fucking Cunt|talk]]) 00:07, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::And I'm going to continue ignoring them until ''somebody'' tells me ''exactly'' what the hell the "discussion" section is supposed to be if discussion isn't allowed. Because until then, I'm just gonna see myself being punished for no good reason and make you look like a complete wanker. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 16:20, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Bye then. --[[User:A Fucking Cunt|A Fucking Cunt]] ([[User talk:A Fucking Cunt|talk]]) 17:00, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Yes, it's completely my fault that nobody tells me anything. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 12:43, 12 September 2016 (EDT)

Alright then, allow me to help explain.

Article discussion pages are used to discuss changes to be made/ways to improve that specific article. As such, you should only post something there if it pertains to editing the article page. This can include asking questions about how recent developments in fiction should be handled, bringing up a problem with how something is written, or just double checking if doing something is okay. They are not for random discussions about the character/location/franchise that do not pertain to the editing of the article.

User talk pages are designed to allow other editors of the wiki to ask you questions about your edits, inform you of when you've made a mistake, and keep a record of any problems that have resulted from your edits. As such, deleting the contents of your talk page is essentially like burning your rap sheet. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, it's frowned upon as you are deleting the public records from the wiki that help the admins and moderators keep the peace.

Hopefully this will help you understand how to be a better member of our community. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 13:26, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
:Thank you. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
:The point about article talk pages is explained in the huge notice at the top of this page and the point about user talk pages was explained in the link I provided earlier in this thread. Takeshi357's claim that "nobody tells [him/her] anything" is absurd. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:52, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
::That's the thing, in my own opinion I have been using the discussion section for it's intended purpose - asking ''before'' making edits because 1) that particular topic might be worth mentioning in the respective article, and 2) another contributor might know more about the subject than I do - so being accused of "talking too much" despite of this strikes ''me'' as absurd because I'm not engaging in just idle chatter. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
:::And then there never was any sort of a follow-up. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 23:20, 28 October 2016 (EDT)

User talk:Takeshi357

2016-09-13T08:56:45Z

Takeshi357: /* Blanking your talk page returns */

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==Blanking your talk page==
Don't do that. See [[Transformers Wiki: User page]] for details. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 07:46, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:Yeah, god forbid I actually try to engage a fucking discussion before making edits. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 08:50, 16 February 2016 (EST)

==Removing user notices==
Please don't remove the user notices. They're there for a reason. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:59, 23 February 2016 (EST)

== Japanese spelling for Cybertron ==

To answer your question, yes, "Seibertron" is a common fan spelling for the classic Japanese name of Cybertron, セイバートロン. But for whatever reason, the powers that be decided that both "Seibātoron" the planet and "Saibatoron" the faction in Japanese should be romanized identically despite the pronouciation difference. And we the editors of this wiki have to accept official sources. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 11 March 2016 (EST)

==Blanking your talk page returns==
As you have been told ''multiple times'', do not blank your user talk page. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:55, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 20:27, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
::Because it's against wiki policy to be allowed to whitewash your record. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:32, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:::Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 11:58, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
::::[[Transformers Wiki:User page]]--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:21, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
:::::That does not answer the question. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 18:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::It's important to keep track of talk page history so everyone is treated fairly. User talk pages are regarded as a public space, so please don't delete material from them unless you're archiving it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::Also, being a petulant child about wiki policy and repeatedly ignoring admin warnings is a nice quick way to not have an account anymore. So, yannow, reel it back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:07, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::And I'm going to continue ignoring them until ''somebody'' tells me ''exactly'' what the hell the "discussion" section is supposed to be if discussion isn't allowed. Because until then, I'm just gonna see myself being punished for no good reason and make you look like a complete wanker. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 16:20, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Bye then. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:00, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Yes, it's completely my fault that nobody tells me anything. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 12:43, 12 September 2016 (EDT)

Alright then, allow me to help explain.

Article discussion pages are used to discuss changes to be made/ways to improve that specific article. As such, you should only post something there if it pertains to editing the article page. This can include asking questions about how recent developments in fiction should be handled, bringing up a problem with how something is written, or just double checking if doing something is okay. They are not for random discussions about the character/location/franchise that do not pertain to the editing of the article.

User talk pages are designed to allow other editors of the wiki to ask you questions about your edits, inform you of when you've made a mistake, and keep a record of any problems that have resulted from your edits. As such, deleting the contents of your talk page is essentially like burning your rap sheet. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, it's frowned upon as you are deleting the public records from the wiki that help the admins and moderators keep the peace.

Hopefully this will help you understand how to be a better member of our community. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 13:26, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
:Thank you. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
:The point about article talk pages is explained in the huge notice at the top of this page and the point about user talk pages was explained in the link I provided earlier in this thread. Takeshi357's claim that "nobody tells [him/her] anything" is absurd. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:52, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
::That's the thing, in my own opinion I have been using the discussion section for it's intended purpose - asking ''before'' making edits because 1) that particular topic might be worth mentioning in the respective article, and 2) another contributor might know more about the subject than I do - so being accused of "talking too much" despite of this strikes ''me'' as absurd because I'm not engaging in just idle chatter. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)

User talk:Takeshi357

2016-09-13T08:56:06Z

Takeshi357: /* Blanking your talk page returns */

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==Blanking your talk page==
Don't do that. See [[Transformers Wiki: User page]] for details. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 07:46, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:Yeah, god forbid I actually try to engage a fucking discussion before making edits. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 08:50, 16 February 2016 (EST)

==Removing user notices==
Please don't remove the user notices. They're there for a reason. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 13:59, 23 February 2016 (EST)

== Japanese spelling for Cybertron ==

To answer your question, yes, "Seibertron" is a common fan spelling for the classic Japanese name of Cybertron, セイバートロン. But for whatever reason, the powers that be decided that both "Seibātoron" the planet and "Saibatoron" the faction in Japanese should be romanized identically despite the pronouciation difference. And we the editors of this wiki have to accept official sources. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 11 March 2016 (EST)

==Blanking your talk page returns==
As you have been told ''multiple times'', do not blank your user talk page. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:55, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 20:27, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
::Because it's against wiki policy to be allowed to whitewash your record. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:32, 26 August 2016 (EDT)
:::Why? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 11:58, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
::::[[Transformers Wiki:User page]]--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:21, 29 August 2016 (EDT)
:::::That does not answer the question. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 18:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::It's important to keep track of talk page history so everyone is treated fairly. User talk pages are regarded as a public space, so please don't delete material from them unless you're archiving it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:44, 10 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::Also, being a petulant child about wiki policy and repeatedly ignoring admin warnings is a nice quick way to not have an account anymore. So, yannow, reel it back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:07, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::And I'm going to continue ignoring them until ''somebody'' tells me ''exactly'' what the hell the "discussion" section is supposed to be if discussion isn't allowed. Because until then, I'm just gonna see myself being punished for no good reason and make you look like a complete wanker. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 16:20, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
::::::::Bye then. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:00, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Yes, it's completely my fault that nobody tells me anything. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 12:43, 12 September 2016 (EDT)

Alright then, allow me to help explain.

Article discussion pages are used to discuss changes to be made/ways to improve that specific article. As such, you should only post something there if it pertains to editing the article page. This can include asking questions about how recent developments in fiction should be handled, bringing up a problem with how something is written, or just double checking if doing something is okay. They are not for random discussions about the character/location/franchise that do not pertain to the editing of the article.

User talk pages are designed to allow other editors of the wiki to ask you questions about your edits, inform you of when you've made a mistake, and keep a record of any problems that have resulted from your edits. As such, deleting the contents of your talk page is essentially like burning your rap sheet. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, it's frowned upon as you are deleting the public records from the wiki that help the admins and moderators keep the peace.

Hopefully this will help you understand how to be a better member of our community. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 13:26, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
:Thank you. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
:The point about article talk pages is explained in the huge notice at the top of this page and the point about user talk pages was explained in the link I provided earlier in this thread. Takeshi357's claim that "nobody tells [him/her] anything" is absurd. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:52, 12 September 2016 (EDT)
::That's the thing, in my own opinion I have been using the discussion section for it's intended purpose - asking ''before'' making edits because 1) that particular topic might be worth mentioning in the respective article, and 2) another contributor might know more about the subject than I do - so being accused of "talking too much" despite of this strikes ''me'' as absurd. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 04:56, 13 September 2016 (EDT)

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2016-09-12T16:43:35Z

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2016-09-12T16:42:58Z

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2016-09-11T20:21:13Z

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2016-09-11T20:20:30Z

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Talk:Ralph Macchio

2016-09-10T22:49:01Z

Takeshi357: Created page with "He also wrote the Big Broadcast of 2006 comic adaptation. Wasn't there more text in this article? Something about his writing style bein..."

He also wrote the [[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|Big Broadcast of 2006]] comic adaptation.

Wasn't there more text in this article? Something about his writing style being rooted in the silver age, a style which was already dated by the time Transformers came out? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 18:49, 10 September 2016 (EDT)

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2016-09-10T22:44:47Z

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2016-08-29T15:58:32Z

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2016-08-26T22:52:02Z

Takeshi357:

== Japanese spelling for Cybertron ==

To answer your question, yes, "Seibertron" is a common fan spelling for the classic Japanese name of Cybertron, セイバートロン. But for whatever reason, the powers that be decided that both "Seibātoron" the planet and "Saibatoron" the faction in Japanese should be romanized identically despite the pronouciation difference. And we the editors of this wiki have to accept official sources. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 11 March 2016 (EST)

Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears

2016-06-01T13:34:04Z

Takeshi357: /* Animation and technical errors */

{{episode
|series=Headmasters
|ep=15
|image=Marsexplode2.jpg
|caption=Looks like another Tequila Sunrise...
|title="Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears"
|japanese=火星爆破!!出現メガザラック
|romaji=Kasei Bakuha!! Shutsugen MegaZarak
|production code=
|production company=[[TakaraTomy|Takara]], [[Toei]]
|airdate=[[October 16]], [[1987]]
|writer=[[Toyohiro Ando]]
|director=[[Jōhei Matsūra]]
|animation studio=Toei
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}
'''With Fortress Maximus out of power and the destruction of Mars looming ever nearer, Scorponok reveals his true face at last.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:ExplosionMarsMegaZarak MarsExplodes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
As [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] desperately tries to contact the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]], [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] and [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] undergo repairs for their injuries and the Decepticons continue with their plan to blow up the planet. [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] deduces that the energy used against [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] that drained him of his power was [[plasma energy]], released in the destruction of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and realizes that the Decepticons' goal in destroying Mars must be to generate more. Alerted to this fact, the Autobot Headmasters redouble their efforts to locate the Decepticons' bombing co-ordinates and attack the Decepticon Headmasters. Fortress orders the [[Trainbot]]s to join them from [[Athenia]], and they soon arrive and lend a hand.

[[File:HM15 MegaZarak arrives on Chaar.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
Meanwhile, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] has been informed that the bombs have been planted in two of the three key sites on Mars, and relocates to planet [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]], where work on his secret project there is in the final stages. He orders the Decepticon Headmasters to pull out of the conflict on Mars and join him on Zarak, prompting the Autobots to investigate. Fortress contacts [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] on Earth, who dispatches [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Twincast]] to spy on the Decepticon base on Earth to learn what the villains are up to. [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] sneaks into the base and watches as [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundblaster]] calls on [[Sixshot]] to join the Decepticons on [[Chaar]]. After he reports back to Twincast, Twincast opts to follow the ninja through the [[space bridge]] to the Decepticons' base there so that he can observe the meeting that is being held.

[[File:HM15 MegaZarak arrives on Mars.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Aw snap.]]
[[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and [[Skullcruncher (G1)|Skullcruncher]] meet their leader on Zarak, as Scorponok steps out of the shadows at last—then, as assembled Decepticon forces watch through a viewscreen, the surface of Zarak cracks and the entire world is torn asunder. From the core of the planet emerges Scorponok's secret project, his own colossal [[transtector]]! Transforming his new craft from city mode to the form of a gigantic robot scorpion, Scorponok sets course for Chaar to collect the Decepticons, just as Twincast is spotted by Soundblaster, and a brief battle between the communicators and their cassettes ensues before Twincast escapes.

[[File:HM15 Fortress Maximus escapes Mars.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
Back on Mars a little while later, Fortress receives Twincast's report and readies for his impending battle wth Scorponok. He does not have long to wait, as Scorponok appears in the skies overhead while the Headmasters and Trainbots are battling the Terrorcons at the final bombing site. Battleship Maximus, however, is still drained of all energy and unable to transform, and after Scorponok smashes his way through the Headmasters and Trainbots, he transforms into his own massive [[robot mode]] and begins to pound on the helpless craft. Then, the report comes that all the bombs have been put in place, and Scorponok orders Soundblaster to detonate them. The key bomb clusters in the polar regions explode, and a chain reaction occurs, sending a string of explosions tearing through Mars. The Decepticons pull out as the planet erupts in flame all around them, but Fortress has one last ace up his sleeve—Battleship Maximus is able to absorb some of the energy released in the explosion, and, back to full power, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] emerges from the conflagration and cleaves Scorponok's shoulder with the [[Master Sword]], forcing the villains to retreat. Although the Decepticons may have been forced back for now, Mars has been lost, and the Autobots' toughest battles are still ahead of them.

==Featured characters==
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* [[Suiken]] (1)
* [[Shouki]] (2)
* [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (3)
* [[Yukikaze (Headmasters)|Yukikaze]] (4)
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (5)
* [[Getsuei]] (6)
* [[Seizan]] (7)
* [[Kaen]] (8)
* [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] (11)
* [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] (12)
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* [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] (13)
* [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress/Fortress Maximus]] (14)
* [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (15)
* [[Raiden]] (22)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (23)
* [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Twincast]] (24)
* [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (25)
* [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] (26)
* [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]] (39)
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* [[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]] (16)
* [[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Gurrr]] (17)
* [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] (18)
* [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]] (19)
* [[Skullcruncher (G1)|Skullcruncher]] (20)
* [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] (21)
* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (27)
* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (28)
* [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundblaster]] (29)
* [[Sixshot]] (30)
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (31)
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* [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (32)
* [[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] (33)
* [[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (34)
* [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (35)
* [[Octane]] (36)
* [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] (37)
* [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]] (38)
* [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (40)
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]/[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]? (41)
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (42)
* [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] (43)
{{!}}}
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* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (9)
* [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] (10)
}}

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
[[File:Hm ep15 rumble or frenzy.jpg|right|upright=2.2|thumb|[[e-HOBBY]] duo-pack with [[Enemy (G1)|Enemy]]? Pretty please? Pretty pretty please?]]
*As the Trainbots watch the monitor on Athenia at the beginning of the episode, Shouki's lower right leg is colored white, while the left is colored blue.
*When initially conferring with Spike, the back of Fortress' head is brown instead of gray. In the next shot, he is missing some of the chest detail surrounding his insignia.
*Thrust's wings appear to be attached to the underside of his forearms. A moment later, Dirge is colored like Thrust.
*Rewind is colored as Steeljaw when he spies on Sixshot while in cassette mode.
*As Sixshot arrives on Chaar, Blitzwing is present, and his head is purple. In the same shot, Soundblaster is missing the red stripe around each forearm.
*Just after Soundblaster punches up the Mars status on screen, there is a peculiar robot standing behind Sixshot's right. It looks like [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]], but his colors are all wrong.
*The tapes Twincasts ejects to fight Soundblaster are all colored like Steeljaw.
*When Soundblaster ejects cassettes to fight Twincast, one of them is the Rumble/Frenzy [[robot mode]]l, colored... ''yellow and black''?
*Rippersnapper and Cutthroat are shown to be among the Decepticons watching from Chaar when Scorponok unveils his transtector... while Raiden is fighting ''Abominus'' on Mars. Mmn.
*When Scorponok lands on Chaar, Tantrum is colored blue and grey. In the same shot, Soundblaster is colored in the traditional blue of Soundwave. The right-side of his helmet is left uncolored and stars can be seen through it.
*When Scorponok transforms into robot mode, he doesn't appear to have his shield. When it cuts to him walking towards Maximus, his shield is on the left arm as per his character model, but when it cuts to him actually stomping Maximus, it's on his ''right'' arm.
*Just before the Terrorcons merge, Brainstorm and Highbrow can be seen fighting alongside the other Headmasters, despite the fact they're supposed to be back at base. A few minutes later, they arrive at the fight for real.
*In general, this episode's animation is lackluster. It resembles some of Toei's poorer efforts from season 2.

===Continuity notes===
*This episode represents the culmination of various plot threads that have been running throughout ''The Headmasters'' thus far.
**Having remained hidden in shadow since his debut in "[[The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery]]", Scorponok finally steps in to the light in this episode.
**The construction of Scorponok's transtector was foreshadowed back in "[[Rebellion on Planet Beast]]", and brought to the fore alongside the Decepticons' activities on planet Zarak in "[[The Shadow Emperor, Scorponok]]".
**The power of plasma energy was introduced in "[[The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts]]", its origin tied back to the events of the "[[Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger]]" two-parter.

:It's not unfair to say that with the wrapping-up of these story points, the series becomes largely directionless—with [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]'s return in the next episode, it launches into a very random planet-hopping story arc that serves no real purpose but to vary the scenery, until Galvatron is removed from the series again, and focus shifts back to Scorponok and his plans.

===Trivia===
*The "MegaZarak" spoken of in the title is, of course, the Japanese name for Scorponok's transtector, the giant robot that we in the West also known as Scorponok.
*When the Autobots first learn of Scorponok's plan to blow up Mars, their reaction is one of horror. They also mention the incredible damage the Mars' detonation will surely bring to Earth, which is made even more direct by a series of still images showcasing the potential destruction. Yet when Mars actually ''is'' blown up Earth seems to get off without any damage whatsoever. Okay, then.
*The loss of Mars isn't much of big deal throughout the rest of the series either. The Autobots don't even bother to update their space-maps to reflect its destruction when travelling through the Mars-Jupiter asteroid belt.

===Foreign localization===
'''English'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Mars Explodes! The Scorpion Appears!'''" ([[Omni Productions]] dub)
:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 25]], [[1992]]

:*''Title:'' "'''Explosion on Mars! Scorponok Appears!'''" ([[Shout! Factory]] sub)
::*The review of the last episode shown before the title card is omitted.
::*The MegaZarak transtector is referred to as... the "Scorponok Transtector", despite the Headmaster himself already being named "Scorponok". The Destron City mode of the transtector is subtitled as "Decepticon Headquarters".

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Vzryvy na Marse! Scorponog Poyavlyaetsya'''" (Взрывы на Марсе! Скорпоног появляется, "Explosion on Mars! Scorponok Appears")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Italian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''La distruzione di Marte - Appare Lord Zarak!'''" ("The destruction of Mars - Lord Zarak appears!")

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote|omni}}
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1996 — ''Transformers: The Headmasters'' Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2002 — ''Transformers: The Headmasters'' — DVD Box ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2005 — The Takara Collection Vol 1 — ''Transformers: Headmasters'' ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Takara Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers: Headmasters'' ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers: Japan Generation 1'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''Transformers Japanese Collection: Headmasters'' ([[Shout! Factory]]) — Japanese audio with optional English subtitles only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2012 — ''Transformers: The Japanese Collection'' (Shout! Factory) — Japanese audio with optional English subtitles only.

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The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2

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|series2=2010
|ep=95
|ep2=32
|prev2=The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1
|next2=Four Warriors Come out of the Sky
|image=ReturnOptimusPrime2 Matrix open.JPG
|caption=Hmm, this looks familiar...
|title="The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2"
|production code=700-116
|airdate=[[February 25]], 1987
|teleplay by=[[Michael Charles Hill]]
|story by=[[Cherie Wilkerson]] and [[Marv Wolfman]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Optimus and a handful of Autobots make a desperate bid to recover the Matrix, in the hopes that a cure for the Hate Plague can be found.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Primeandjessicamorgan.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Chip Chase, is that you?]]

Within Autobot City, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] has been fully restored to life by [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] and [[Klementia|a Quintesson survivor]] of the rampant Hate Plague that's infecting the universe. Prime demands to know what has happened during his time on the [[Allspark|other side]]. Sky Lynx recaps the events that had conspired to bring him back, including [[Jessica Morgan]]'s valiant play to save him from total destruction, the discovery of the [[Hate Plague]] spores, and the trap laid out by Jessica's father and her partner Gregory Swofford to infect the Autobots with the spores in revenge, which ultimately spiraled out of control. It was thought by Rodimus, before his infection, that Prime would know what it would take to stop the plague. Prime asks who is available, and learns of the Autobots injured battling Superion.

The survivors are brought back to Autobot City, where the Quintesson manages to reactivate them, completely rebuilding [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] into Goldbug. When Goldbug asks what the plan is, Prime admits that he doesn't have a plan. Without the accumulated wisdom within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] (which now resides in Rodimus), he doesn't have a clue as to where to start. That is, until Jessica comes forward with the experimental alloy that she, her father, and Gregory had worked on, which proved strong enough to block the spores. Theoretically, coating Optimus with this alloy would protect himself from the spore's infection and allow him to get close enough to Rodimus to extract the Matrix from him. However, all remaining alloy samples were stolen by the Decepticons. The Autobots decide to retrieve the metal.

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 crazycons.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|Cyclonus and Scourge each spent 2,000 XP to create the Level 7 Flame Barrier spell. Unfortunately Galvatron has Protection from Fire with Permanency effect.]]

Meanwhile, on [[Chaar]], [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] is pinned down by his own mutinously diseased soldiers, unable to fight back against their maddening ferocity...until Optimus and his team arrive to save the day, convincing Galvatron that it would be in his best interest to join in an alliance with them. As is his way, however, the Decepticon leader is suspicious of Optimus's motives, especially when he learns they need the alloy he stole, but cannot get a reason for it out of them. He agrees to join in and leads Optimus and his gang down a series of boobytrapped tunnels, their numbers dwindling from the tunnel's natural hazards and the infected Decepticon mob behind them, until only Optimus, Galvatron, Sky Lynx, and Jessica arrive at the alloy's hiding place. Unfortunately, Jessie accidentally lets slip their plan to coat Optimus with the metal after confirming there would be enough of it to do the job, prompting Galvatron to turn on Optimus in hopes of using the process on himself, but he is soon subdued by Sky Lynx. Under coercion, Galvatron loads the alloy onto Prime's trailer, but doesn't notice that an infected Cyclonus has managed to sneak in, infecting Jessica in the process. Jessica, in turn, infects Galvatron, forcing Sky Lynx and Optimus to flee back to Earth.

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Primes duel.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|So I guess Rodimus is a bottom... to Ultra Magnus?]]

Once on Earth, Optimus is coated with the alloy, and sets out to find Rodimus. He finds him, taking down infected Transformers with reckless glee, and attempts to reason with him, which fails. Unwilling to hurt his successor, Prime lures Rodimus to a nearby auto shop, attempting to peacefully subdue and talk Rodimus into helping him, but the Hate Plague is overriding any effort to do so, forcing Optimus to knock Rodimus out and take the Matrix back by force.

Back at [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], Optimus dives into the Matrix to question the elders of the past in reverse chronological order (of their history) to try and find out any information on the spores. The spirit of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] warns him that if he travels too far, he risks becoming lost within the Matrix itself. During Prime's journey, the Quintesson that revived him notices a troop of infected Transformers attempting to get in, and manages to temporarily shut them out, giving Optimus the time he needs to finally find his answer. He learns that, in a period of pre-Cybertronian history, the Plague ''has'' visited the planet before, but was contained and sealed inside the star Jessica and Gregory found it in using sheer wisdom, though even back then, no one had the wisdom to destroy the spores, and now that it has spread so much throughout the galaxy, it's doubtful that anyone has the wisdom to even contain them again. Optimus then realizes that a source of raw wisdom may be available to destroy the infection once and for all: the accumulated wisdom within the Matrix of Leadership.

The infected Transformers finally break into the base, and corner the Quintesson, who begs them to stop. Galvatron grabs a metal pole, intending to impale Prime. However, Prime's chest opens to reveal a glowing Matrix, surprising the Transformers. Asking it to "light our [[darkest hour]]", Optimus Prime releases the energy of the Matrix of Leadership, which spreads across the world and across universe, and totally eradicates the Plague.

Some while later, in Autobot City, a remorseful Gregory and Jessica's father offer deep apologies to the Autobots, while Galvatron, in a rare moment of calm, shakes his old enemy's hand, proclaiming that Prime has earned his respect and that "there will be no war today." Rodimus (now [[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]], without the Matrix within him) notes that the Matrix is now empty, its wisdom supposedly lost in order to stop the plague. Optimus, however, disagrees; they have all become a little wiser, now, and although the Matrix is indeed empty of wisdom, it is up to them from then on to fill it again with their knowledge and experience. Optimus, once again the Autobot leader, orders his troops to "Transform and [[roll out]]".

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (2)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (6)
*[[Chase (G1)|Chase]] (7)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (8)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (10)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (11)
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (12)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee/Goldbug]] (13)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (14)
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] (15)
*[[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod]] (26)
*[[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] (27)
*[[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] (28)
*[[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (29)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (31)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (32)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (33)

|c2=
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (16)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (17)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (18)
*[[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]] (19)
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] (20)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (21)
*[[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] (22)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (23)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (24)
*[[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] (25)

|c3=
*[[Jessica Morgan]] (4)
*[[Gregory Swofford]] (5)
*[[Mark Morgan]] (34)

|c4=
*[[Klementia]] (3)
*[[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] (9)
*[[It]] (30)
}}

==Quotes==
"We need a plan! Okay, Optimus, what's the plan?" 
"I... have no plan."
:—'''Goldbug''' and '''Optimus Prime''', the latter of whom is not exactly inspiring confidence

"[[Autobots, transform and roll out]]!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', getting back into the swing of things.

"Fools, I am your leader! ... It's no use. You're all crazed!"
:—'''Galvatron''' fighting his infected and insane troops. The irony fairy just had a coronary.

"Have I no friends left?!" 
"Well, well, what have we here?" 
"Looks like something the cat dragged in."
:—'''Galvatron''' is no longer so impressive to '''Cyclonus''' and '''Predaking'''

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Prime Galvatron.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|"Come on, Optimus, why can't we be friends?"
 "When we first met, you shot me and my girlfriend. You make a bad first impression."]]

[[File:Roop2 prime vs prime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"NO ONE is innocent!" ...especially not after this series of screencaps.]]

"Come on, Optimus, tell me! Why do you want this metal? How will it be used? Why is it so precious?" 
"I've explained it to you." 
"You told me it was important, but you didn't tell me why!" 
"That's because I know you too well, Galvatron."
:—'''Galvatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''' resuming their same old song and dance

"I don't need you anymore, Optimus. So much for your resurrection!"
:—'''Galvatron''', same song, different tune

"I don't want to hurt you, Rodimus!" 
"Don't worry, Optimus, you won't! HAHAHAHAH!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Rodimus Prime''' throw down.

"No more games, Rodimus! Innocent lives are at stake!" 
"''No one'' is innocent!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Rodimus Prime''' throw down some more... right before Optimus clocks him.

"Now, light our darkest hour!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', proving that destiny and Chosen Ones mean nothing when pitted against letters from angry kids and parents.

"There will be no war today, Optimus Prime. You have earned Galvatron's respect."
:—'''Galvatron''', totally sane for the first time since... ever

"The wisdom of the ages! It's lost!" 
"No, not lost. We're all a little wiser now." 
"But the Matrix is empty!" 
"It's up to all of us to fill it again—with the wisdom we accumulate from this moment on. Autobots, transform and roll out!"
:—'''Hot Rod''' and '''Optimus Prime'''

==Season 5==
{{note|When this episode was rebroadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it contained new bookending segments with original story material.}}

[[File:GetThatMicrophoneOuttaMyFace.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.4]]

[[Tommy Kennedy (G1)|Tommy]] meets with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ("The greatest fighter in the galaxy") in the barren wasteland to continue their interview for the [[Autobot City News]]. Optimus takes exception to being called a "fighter", as he doesn't agree that fighting is always the solution. In fact, in order to cure the galaxy of the [[Hate Plague]], he had to find a solution ''other'' than fighting...

With the tale concluded, Optimus asks Tommy if he'd like to help him refuel [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]]. Tommy is psyched to participate in such a "privilege" and signs off his report. He then clings to Prime's head as they blast off into space.

{{--}}

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
[[File:Goldbugtroop1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.85]]
*The chair Optimus was sitting on is missing at the beginning of the episode.
*Optimus's fog lights are entirely red, even at the bulbs, which should be yellow or white.
*The recap animation shows Prime's body being pulled out of his ship with several cables. While this idea makes perfect sense, no cables were used during the actual event last episode.
*As Sky Lynx recaps last episode's events, the animation shows the exploding detonator/asteroid/planet/whatever-else-the-script-has-retconned-it-into-being... while he describes the ''star'' going nova. Granted, it's repeating the same goof as the previous ep.
*When the small group of Autobots is restored, Steeljaw's paws are over the side of the table in one shot and beside him in the next shot.
*In his first full body shot, Goldbug's head is drawn off-model, with pointier horns, smaller eyes and a much simpler mouthplate that looks more like Optimus Prime's than Goldbug's zigzag-shaped plate.
*As he speaks with the group, the closeups of Optimus's face from the side have the panel on the left side of his head in gray instead of blue. The long shots don't show his mouth plate moving as he speaks.
*During Blurr's "let's go!" rambling, the Quintesson wobbles around a bit.
*After Kup suggests the Autobots steal the metal back, Steeljaw (who's very close to the camera) is Rampage colored like Steeljaw.
*When Optimus Prime kneels down to talk to Jessica Morgan, Goldbug's feet (in the background) are colored gray instead of gold, even though his shins are still gold.
[[File:Roop kup and prime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*When the small group of Autobots is restored, Optimus suddenly has his rifle back, though he wasn't holding it in the previous shots.
*As the group "rolls out," Kup is shown driving backwards (unless he turns around after the scene transition...).
*The red squares are missing from the tops of Galvatron's shoulders in several shots. His chin is gray in some and dark gray in others as well.
*The Autobots on Charr transform to robot mode with the decending-pitch transformation noise, rather than the ascending-pitch version that usually goes with car-to-robot transformations.
*Optimus's rifle has the basic Autobot gun sound effect rather than its usual sound effect.

*As Optimus drives through the cave, his trailer is missing its Autobot symbol.
*Just before he transforms in the cave, Optimus' bumper and grille are red instead of gray.

*In the distant shot of the Autobots, just before the spider approaches them, Blaster appears to have Blast Off's colors.
*Some shots show the crest on Optimus's helmet framed in gray, while others (such as during his "know you too well" line) have it framed in blue.
*A close-up of Jessica reacting to the spider's approach shows her without her exo-suit, which she is shown wearing immediately before and after.
*Blaster's forehead is red instead of white in the following shot.
*As the energy leeches drop on Optimus, his fog lights are long cylinders rather than short triangles.
*Just before getting infected, Blaster has no lines on his switch plate.
*"We have to get out of here!" - Optimus's faceplate is misaligned with his helmet.
*When Galvatron shoots the top of the cave the second time, some of the rocks stay in mid-air.
*When they enter the Decepticon lab, Galvatron is taller than Optimus. In most other shots, he's shorter than Optimus.
*As Jessica discovers the alloy in the lab, Optimus is missing the Autobot symbol on his shoulder.
*After she makes the discovery, a shot shows the sides of Optimus' midsection in white instead of red.
*When Galvatron is threatening Optimus after they find the heat-resistant metal, Galvatron's cannon has a trigger on it.
*When escaping after Galvatron is infected, Optimus and his cab are colored entirely white (as if already coated in the resistant metal!)
*Searchlight and Chase fire their first few laser shots at Rodimus without any sound effects. Their first shots are purple, but in the next shot they're firing orange lasers.
*During the subsequent fighting, nobody gets the right sound effect; the Throttlebots and Rodimus all use a non-standard laser sound.
*When he first meets Optimus, Rodimus is missing his Autobot symbol.
*The subsequent shots show Rodimus as semi-transparent.
*As Rodimus drives out of the junkyard a few moments later, he floats above the ground.
[[File:Hate Plague Rodimus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|right|"Hey, Kay, nah, nah, c'mon on man, you get a Series Four De-atomizer and I get a little - little midget cricket?"]]
*Rodimus's gun fires yellow shots at times and purple shots in others. And what happened to his rifle?
*As Optimus grapples with Rodimus, Rodimus's Autobot logo disappears in a few frames.
*The inside of Rodimus' mouth is gray as he delivers the "no one is innocent!" line.
[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Alpha Trion miscolored.jpg‎|thumb|upright=1.4|Trust the Gorton's fisherbot!]]
*The close-up of Optimus aboard the newly-infected Sky Lynx shows a standard non-infected coloration behind him.
*The ceiling of the junkyard plant has beams framing the glass, yet the beams disappear when Sky Lynx crashes through them.
*Sky Lynx ''also'' disappears after crashing through the glass.
*As Optimus struggles with Rodimus the second time, Optimus's Autobot logo is framed in white in some shots, black in others.
*When Optimus takes the Matrix from Rodimus, the "glow" from the Matrix lags behind the Matrix itself when he raises it up. Rodimus's chest cavity is also a huge chasm, rather than the usual Matrix-sized compartment.
*In the next shot, Rodimus is laying there with his chest suddenly closed again.
*When Optimus is talking to Alpha Trion, Alpha Trion is miscolored. He's grey, slate blue and orange when shown from the front, and entirely orange when shown from the side. He should be grey, dark red and dark blue.
*When Headstrong and Tantrum get smushed by the doors, they cry out in generic, distinctly non-Predacon voices.
*When Optimus activates the Matrix, its handles disappear. They're back again in the next shot.
*Jessica's facial appearance in this episode is different than it was in Part 1.
*"But the Matrix is empty!" - Hot Rod has the extra lines on his face that accompany his incarnation as Rodimus.
*As Optimus is explaining that the Matrix must be refilled with the future wisdom, he is colored as if he still has the heat resistant metal on him.
*In the same shot, Hot Rod looks bigger than Optimus even though he should be much smaller (especially now that he's not Rodimus anymore).
*In the last shot of the episode, Optimus is missing his smoke stacks, the front of his cab has the gray stripes but the sides do not, and his trailer is again missing its Autobot logo; meanwhile, Blurr clips into Kup and his front end disappears from the frame.

===Continuity errors===
*Optimus's last line in Part 1 was "This time, no force in the universe can stop me." His first line here is "''Now'', no force in the universe ''will'' stop me."
*Sky Lynx is in two parts at the beginning. He was the full walking bird at the end of the last episode.
*After Sky Lynx's recap, Optimus is seen getting up from a table and walking over to where he was a minute earlier. There was no table behind him in previous shots, and no reason for him to lay down for a moment.
*So....how ''exactly'' does Sky Lynx know every single detail of what happened in the previous episode? He wasn't even there when half of those recapped events took place!
*Given that the Autobots are in a rush to save the galaxy, why did the Quintessons take the time to retool Bumblebee into Goldbug?
*How did Kup know that Rodimus had been contaminated? He was deactivated by Superion before that happened, and wasn't around for Sky Lynx's recap.
*The alloy is heat-resistant to the point of surviving a supernova in the [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|previous episode]]. Yet it now can be melted down to coat Optimus Prime with it.
*A machine is used to coat Optimus Prime with this superheated alloy. What was ''it'' made out of, and why wasn't that material used?
*And did anyone manage to explain how heat resistance works against spores? What exactly do the writers think [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore spores] are?
*Appearing/disappearing Autobots:
**The Transformers wounded by [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (and listed by Sky Lynx) included Steeljaw and Wheelie. At the Autobot lab, Wheelie is replaced by Blaster.
**Steeljaw is revived at the Autobot City lab, but not seen afterwards.
*Continuing the confusion started by the combiners last episode, the infected Decepticons work ''together'' to fight Galvatron and the others, instead of attacking each other.
*Worse, when outnumbered by the Autobots, Cyclonus orders the other Decepticons to retreat, and they follow his command.
*Sky Lynx doesn't help during the spider attack, even though he ''can'' fly.
*Where's the trailer go?
**Optimus is coated in the alloy in robot mode. How does his trailer get coated?
**For that matter, where's the trailer been hanging out for the past couple of years since Optimus died, and how did he get back together with it? It just kinda rolls in as usual when he first transforms.
*Goldbug, Kup and Blaster get infected without being touched; in fact they don't even try to avoid it. Sky Lynx was right next to them but doesn't get infected. Huh?
*Sky Lynx suddenly grows a pair of hands to pick up Galvatron's [[particle cannon]] with. Even if they're supposed to be his bird mode legs (which they appear to be based on), what is he standing on?
*Shouldn't Jessica's full-body exo-suit protect her from direct contact and infection?
*After Jessica Morgan and Galvatron got infected, Optimus and Sky Lynx speed off. Jessica makes a jump for Sky Lynx and briefly clings onto his tail before losing her grip, yet Sky Lynx ''still'' doesn't get infected.
*How do the support beams in the junkyard plant hold Optimus and Rodimus' weight?
*Rodimus's Matrix chamber opens via a pair of rectangular swing-out doors much like Optimus' chamber. In "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4," the door opened in the middle of the flame on his chest. In "Dark Awakening", it hinged across the left side of the flame, and the whole design opened to reveal the chamber.
*When Optimus puts the Matrix into his chest, he puts it in ''lengthwise''. Surely his months of deactivation haven't made him forget how the thing sat in his chest for ''millions of years''?
*The infected transformers work ''together'' to find Optimus Prime, instead of attacking each other.
*"It" tells Prime that "a wise man was able to contain the spores, but...no one had the wisdom to [destroy them]." The implication seems to be that a smart dude figured out a way to control the spores. Yet Prime - and the plot - proceed to interpret this as meaning that "wisdom" is like some kind of laser beam spore-cleaning agent - just point it at the spores and pull the trigger!
*In the movie, the Matrix took up the top half of Optimus' chest compartment and was behind a flip-up panel. Here, it fills in the whole (now hollow) cavity with no panel or other electronics to be seen.
*How exactly did Jessica get off [[Chaar]]?
*And what are she and Gregory Swofford doing in [[Moscow]] by the time they're cured of the Hate Plague? It's not just a case of an accidentally recycled background from the previous shot (which did depict actual Russians being cured of the Hate Plague)—even though both shots feature onion domes reminiscent of Saint Basil's Cathedral, they're definitely different background paintings. So... what gives?
*How did they get the alloy ''off'' Optimus Prime? And why would they want to, if it's so resilient? (Unless... they just painted over the alloy?)
[[File:Swafford&morganG1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"Take our hands! Please!" "Make it your faces and we'll talk."]]
*The timing of the last scene is odd. It's long enough after the cure is unleashed for Optimus to have the metal removed or painted over, and for Kup, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, and the three humans to arrive at Autobot City. Yet Galvatron is still hanging around, and both he and Hot Rod speak as though the previous scene's events just happened.
**Interestingly, Galvatron is consistently portrayed without his cannon in this scene.
*Does anyone else think that Dr. Swofford and Morgan get off waaaaay too easy at the end of the episode? They ''willingly'' unleash the hate plague that causes widespread devastation (and probably death) across not just the world but the entire galaxy, just to spite the Autobots, and they get off by just saying "sorry"? (Then again, we don't actually ''see'' Optimus shaking their hands. Burn!)

===Continuity notes===
[[File:It wireframe.gif|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Prime says of Galvatron: "That's because I know you too well..." As this is the first time he's really dealt with Galvatron (apart from a brief firefight while being a half-alive quasi-zombie in "[[Dark Awakening (episode)|Dark Awakening]]"), it seems clear that he regards him as little different from his earlier incarnation as [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].
*Furthering the sense that the Throttlebots were thrown into this two-parter at the last minute, the only dialogue they receive comes in this episode: a collection of generic barely-on-screen shouts delivered by [[Frank Welker]] ("Smash Rodimus!") and another actor ("After him!"), rather than any of the performers who actually were cast to play the individual Throttlebots in "[[The Rebirth, Part 1]]".
*Optimus's journey through the Matrix gives us a look at some of its early bearers. It almost goes without saying that these robots don't resemble any of the ones we saw back in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]". Moving backwards in time, they include:
**A broad-faced 'bot with prominent cheekguards
**A slimmer, decrepit-looking 'bot in similar colors.
**A heavily-bearded 'bot
**A wireframe-style entity referred to in the script as "[[It]]", bearing a strong resemblance to a Quintesson Judge's Death head. A version of this design appeared previously in Rodimus Prime's dream sequence in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]".
*Upon entering the Matrix of Leadership, the first Autobot that Optimus Prime encounters is Rodimus Prime; then he converses with Alpha Trion. The latter's appearance there is somewhat puzzling, as it was [[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2|previously established]] (and [[The Rebirth, Part 2|later reiterated]]) that he had merged with Vector Sigma. Alpha Trion's presence makes even ''less'' sense considering that it was clearly stated in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]" that he had never taken the Matrix for himself, thus eliminating the possibility that a "backup copy" of himself had somehow been "uploaded" into it. A variety of later fiction would, indirectly, offer explanations centering around the connection between the [[Allspark]], the Matrix, Vector Sigma and Primus. In Alpha Trion's case he's in the afterlife, which one can communicate with through both the Matrix and Vector Sigma. Rodimus's presence is more murky, but can be accounted for by the notion of the Matrix as a gateway to the Allspark.
*Optimus using the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague bears more than a passing resemblance to when Rodimus Prime used the Matrix to destroy [[Unicron]] in [[The Transformers: The Movie|''The Movie'']]. They've even got "[[The Touch]]" playing in the background.
*In Japanese continuity, the events of [[The Great Transformer War issue 3|issue 3]] of ''[[The Great Transformer War]]'' take place shortly after this episode, helping to bridge the gap between it and "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]", the first episode of ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]''.

===Real-world references===
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**A mix of [[TIE Fighter]] and [[X-wing Fighter|X-Wing]] engines as Sky Lynx rescues the Quintesson during the recap.
**The sound of the darting Seeker ball can briefly be heard as Prime's chest pops open to unleash the Matrix's power.

===Trivia===
[[File:DialogueScriptTROOPOrionPax.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|So this is odd.]]
*Following the average-for-[[Toei]] Part 1, this episode's artwork quality is among the series' best, with loads of detailed shading, the same pink-glowing-smoke-explosions seen in ''Transformers: The Movie'', and characters generally on-model and well-drawn.
*The portion of "The Touch" that plays includes the line about "Hell breaking loose," an unusually strong word for an American '80s TV cartoon. Guess the censors were looking elsewhere that day. (Amusing timing as a bamboozled Galvatron says "What is this?", seemingly in reaction to the song replacing the show's usual background music!)
*The [[Sunbow Productions]] cast list entry for this episode lists Orion Pax as appearing. A flashback to Optimus Prime's early days that was removed for time constraints, you might think? No. According to the [[dialogue script]] for the episode, Orion Pax was originally going to be the one to ask Prime why he had returned to the Matrix! Presumably someone on staff caught the error early enough, as Pax's line in the final cut went to Alpha Trion. (The dialogue script also misspells "Trion" as "Tion", for that matter.)
*After abusing his own troops throughout Season 3, there's something deeply satisfying in seeing Galvatron being attacked by his soldiers.
*[[Jack Angel]] takes over as the voice for Cyclonus following the death of [[Roger C. Carmel]].
*This is the final episode of the original American G1 cartoon to be animated by Toei. All of the Japanese-made G1 cartoons would be animated by Toei.

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' '''Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime, Teil 2''' ("The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' コンボイの復活パート2 (''Convoy no Fukkatsu Part 2'', "The Resurrection of Convoy Part 2")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 25]], [[1987]]
:*The Japanese version of this episode has a slightly alternate ending. After Optimus Prime and the Autobots ride off into the sunset and "the Touch" ends, the music changes to "[[Transformer 2010|TRANSFORMER 2010]]" by [[Shō Hirose]] and the scene shifts to a montage of all the major characters from the series.
:*This montage replaces the "[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]" segment focusing on [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] used in the US broadcast. The Ultra Magnus "Secret Files" segment was never used in the Japanese broadcast of the series.
:*Following this episode, Japanese cartoon continuity diverges from the Western continuity. Rather than lead into "[[The Rebirth]]" three-parter, Japanese continuity instead continues in their domestically produced series, ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: The Headmasters]]''.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1987 — ''The Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime ([[Family Home Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 1987 — ''Transformers'' — Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime (Zweiter Teil) ([[Polyband]]) — German audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — ''Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime: Optimus Prime the Ultimate Robot ([[Tempo Video]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1989 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime / Cosmic Rust (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume 7: The Return of Optimus Prime ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-116.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

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[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2

2016-03-23T21:42:24Z

Takeshi357: /* Continuity errors */

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|caption=Hmm, this looks familiar...
|title="The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2"
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'''Optimus and a handful of Autobots make a desperate bid to recover the Matrix, in the hopes that a cure for the Hate Plague can be found.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Primeandjessicamorgan.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Chip Chase, is that you?]]

Within Autobot City, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] has been fully restored to life by [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] and [[Klementia|a Quintesson survivor]] of the rampant Hate Plague that's infecting the universe. Prime demands to know what has happened during his time on the [[Allspark|other side]]. Sky Lynx recaps the events that had conspired to bring him back, including [[Jessica Morgan]]'s valiant play to save him from total destruction, the discovery of the [[Hate Plague]] spores, and the trap laid out by Jessica's father and her partner Gregory Swofford to infect the Autobots with the spores in revenge, which ultimately spiraled out of control. It was thought by Rodimus, before his infection, that Prime would know what it would take to stop the plague. Prime asks who is available, and learns of the Autobots injured battling Superion.

The survivors are brought back to Autobot City, where the Quintesson manages to reactivate them, completely rebuilding [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] into Goldbug. When Goldbug asks what the plan is, Prime admits that he doesn't have a plan. Without the accumulated wisdom within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] (which now resides in Rodimus), he doesn't have a clue as to where to start. That is, until Jessica comes forward with the experimental alloy that she, her father, and Gregory had worked on, which proved strong enough to block the spores. Theoretically, coating Optimus with this alloy would protect himself from the spore's infection and allow him to get close enough to Rodimus to extract the Matrix from him. However, all remaining alloy samples were stolen by the Decepticons. The Autobots decide to retrieve the metal.

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 crazycons.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|Cyclonus and Scourge each spent 2,000 XP to create the Level 7 Flame Barrier spell. Unfortunately Galvatron has Protection from Fire with Permanency effect.]]

Meanwhile, on [[Chaar]], [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] is pinned down by his own mutinously diseased soldiers, unable to fight back against their maddening ferocity...until Optimus and his team arrive to save the day, convincing Galvatron that it would be in his best interest to join in an alliance with them. As is his way, however, the Decepticon leader is suspicious of Optimus's motives, especially when he learns they need the alloy he stole, but cannot get a reason for it out of them. He agrees to join in and leads Optimus and his gang down a series of boobytrapped tunnels, their numbers dwindling from the tunnel's natural hazards and the infected Decepticon mob behind them, until only Optimus, Galvatron, Sky Lynx, and Jessica arrive at the alloy's hiding place. Unfortunately, Jessie accidentally lets slip their plan to coat Optimus with the metal after confirming there would be enough of it to do the job, prompting Galvatron to turn on Optimus in hopes of using the process on himself, but he is soon subdued by Sky Lynx. Under coercion, Galvatron loads the alloy onto Prime's trailer, but doesn't notice that an infected Cyclonus has managed to sneak in, infecting Jessica in the process. Jessica, in turn, infects Galvatron, forcing Sky Lynx and Optimus to flee back to Earth.

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Primes duel.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|So I guess Rodimus is a bottom... to Ultra Magnus?]]

Once on Earth, Optimus is coated with the alloy, and sets out to find Rodimus. He finds him, taking down infected Transformers with reckless glee, and attempts to reason with him, which fails. Unwilling to hurt his successor, Prime lures Rodimus to a nearby auto shop, attempting to peacefully subdue and talk Rodimus into helping him, but the Hate Plague is overriding any effort to do so, forcing Optimus to knock Rodimus out and take the Matrix back by force.

Back at [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], Optimus dives into the Matrix to question the elders of the past in reverse chronological order (of their history) to try and find out any information on the spores. The spirit of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] warns him that if he travels too far, he risks becoming lost within the Matrix itself. During Prime's journey, the Quintesson that revived him notices a troop of infected Transformers attempting to get in, and manages to temporarily shut them out, giving Optimus the time he needs to finally find his answer. He learns that, in a period of pre-Cybertronian history, the Plague ''has'' visited the planet before, but was contained and sealed inside the star Jessica and Gregory found it in using sheer wisdom, though even back then, no one had the wisdom to destroy the spores, and now that it has spread so much throughout the galaxy, it's doubtful that anyone has the wisdom to even contain them again. Optimus then realizes that a source of raw wisdom may be available to destroy the infection once and for all: the accumulated wisdom within the Matrix of Leadership.

The infected Transformers finally break into the base, and corner the Quintesson, who begs them to stop. Galvatron grabs a metal pole, intending to impale Prime. However, Prime's chest opens to reveal a glowing Matrix, surprising the Transformers. Asking it to "light our [[darkest hour]]", Optimus Prime releases the energy of the Matrix of Leadership, which spreads across the world and across universe, and totally eradicates the Plague.

Some while later, in Autobot City, a remorseful Gregory and Jessica's father offer deep apologies to the Autobots, while Galvatron, in a rare moment of calm, shakes his old enemy's hand, proclaiming that Prime has earned his respect and that "there will be no war today." Rodimus (now [[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]], without the Matrix within him) notes that the Matrix is now empty, its wisdom supposedly lost in order to stop the plague. Optimus, however, disagrees; they have all become a little wiser, now, and although the Matrix is indeed empty of wisdom, it is up to them from then on to fill it again with their knowledge and experience. Optimus, once again the Autobot leader, orders his troops to "Transform and [[roll out]]".

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
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*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (2)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (6)
*[[Chase (G1)|Chase]] (7)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (8)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (10)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (11)
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (12)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee/Goldbug]] (13)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (14)
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] (15)
*[[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod]] (26)
*[[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] (27)
*[[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] (28)
*[[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (29)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (31)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (32)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (33)

|c2=
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (16)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (17)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (18)
*[[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]] (19)
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] (20)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (21)
*[[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] (22)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (23)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (24)
*[[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] (25)

|c3=
*[[Jessica Morgan]] (4)
*[[Gregory Swofford]] (5)
*[[Mark Morgan]] (34)

|c4=
*[[Klementia]] (3)
*[[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] (9)
*[[It]] (30)
}}

==Quotes==
"We need a plan! Okay, Optimus, what's the plan?" 
"I... have no plan."
:—'''Goldbug''' and '''Optimus Prime''', the latter of whom is not exactly inspiring confidence

"[[Autobots, transform and roll out]]!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', getting back into the swing of things.

"Fools, I am your leader! ... It's no use. You're all crazed!"
:—'''Galvatron''' fighting his infected and insane troops. The irony fairy just had a coronary.

"Have I no friends left?!" 
"Well, well, what have we here?" 
"Looks like something the cat dragged in."
:—'''Galvatron''' is no longer so impressive to '''Cyclonus''' and '''Predaking'''

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Prime Galvatron.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|"Come on, Optimus, why can't we be friends?"
 "When we first met, you shot me and my girlfriend. You make a bad first impression."]]

[[File:Roop2 prime vs prime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"NO ONE is innocent!" ...especially not after this series of screencaps.]]

"Come on, Optimus, tell me! Why do you want this metal? How will it be used? Why is it so precious?" 
"I've explained it to you." 
"You told me it was important, but you didn't tell me why!" 
"That's because I know you too well, Galvatron."
:—'''Galvatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''' resuming their same old song and dance

"I don't need you anymore, Optimus. So much for your resurrection!"
:—'''Galvatron''', same song, different tune

"I don't want to hurt you, Rodimus!" 
"Don't worry, Optimus, you won't! HAHAHAHAH!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Rodimus Prime''' throw down.

"No more games, Rodimus! Innocent lives are at stake!" 
"''No one'' is innocent!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Rodimus Prime''' throw down some more... right before Optimus clocks him.

"Now, light our darkest hour!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', proving that destiny and Chosen Ones mean nothing when pitted against letters from angry kids and parents.

"There will be no war today, Optimus Prime. You have earned Galvatron's respect."
:—'''Galvatron''', totally sane for the first time since... ever

"The wisdom of the ages! It's lost!" 
"No, not lost. We're all a little wiser now." 
"But the Matrix is empty!" 
"It's up to all of us to fill it again—with the wisdom we accumulate from this moment on. Autobots, transform and roll out!"
:—'''Hot Rod''' and '''Optimus Prime'''

==Season 5==
{{note|When this episode was rebroadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it contained new bookending segments with original story material.}}

[[File:GetThatMicrophoneOuttaMyFace.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.4]]

[[Tommy Kennedy (G1)|Tommy]] meets with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] ("The greatest fighter in the galaxy") in the barren wasteland to continue their interview for the [[Autobot City News]]. Optimus takes exception to being called a "fighter", as he doesn't agree that fighting is always the solution. In fact, in order to cure the galaxy of the [[Hate Plague]], he had to find a solution ''other'' than fighting...

With the tale concluded, Optimus asks Tommy if he'd like to help him refuel [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]]. Tommy is psyched to participate in such a "privilege" and signs off his report. He then clings to Prime's head as they blast off into space.

{{--}}

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
[[File:Goldbugtroop1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.85]]
*The chair Optimus was sitting on is missing at the beginning of the episode.
*Optimus's fog lights are entirely red, even at the bulbs, which should be yellow or white.
*The recap animation shows Prime's body being pulled out of his ship with several cables. While this idea makes perfect sense, no cables were used during the actual event last episode.
*As Sky Lynx recaps last episode's events, the animation shows the exploding detonator/asteroid/planet/whatever-else-the-script-has-retconned-it-into-being... while he describes the ''star'' going nova. Granted, it's repeating the same goof as the previous ep.
*When the small group of Autobots is restored, Steeljaw's paws are over the side of the table in one shot and beside him in the next shot.
*In his first full body shot, Goldbug's head is drawn off-model, with pointier horns, smaller eyes and a much simpler mouthplate that looks more like Optimus Prime's than Goldbug's zigzag-shaped plate.
*As he speaks with the group, the closeups of Optimus's face from the side have the panel on the left side of his head in gray instead of blue. The long shots don't show his mouth plate moving as he speaks.
*During Blurr's "let's go!" rambling, the Quintesson wobbles around a bit.
*After Kup suggests the Autobots steal the metal back, Steeljaw (who's very close to the camera) is Rampage colored like Steeljaw.
*When Optimus Prime kneels down to talk to Jessica Morgan, Goldbug's feet (in the background) are colored gray instead of gold, even though his shins are still gold.
[[File:Roop kup and prime.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*When the small group of Autobots is restored, Optimus suddenly has his rifle back, though he wasn't holding it in the previous shots.
*As the group "rolls out," Kup is shown driving backwards (unless he turns around after the scene transition...).
*The red squares are missing from the tops of Galvatron's shoulders in several shots. His chin is gray in some and dark gray in others as well.
*The Autobots on Charr transform to robot mode with the decending-pitch transformation noise, rather than the ascending-pitch version that usually goes with car-to-robot transformations.
*Optimus's rifle has the basic Autobot gun sound effect rather than its usual sound effect.

*As Optimus drives through the cave, his trailer is missing its Autobot symbol.
*Just before he transforms in the cave, Optimus' bumper and grille are red instead of gray.

*In the distant shot of the Autobots, just before the spider approaches them, Blaster appears to have Blast Off's colors.
*Some shots show the crest on Optimus's helmet framed in gray, while others (such as during his "know you too well" line) have it framed in blue.
*A close-up of Jessica reacting to the spider's approach shows her without her exo-suit, which she is shown wearing immediately before and after.
*Blaster's forehead is red instead of white in the following shot.
*As the energy leeches drop on Optimus, his fog lights are long cylinders rather than short triangles.
*Just before getting infected, Blaster has no lines on his switch plate.
*"We have to get out of here!" - Optimus's faceplate is misaligned with his helmet.
*When Galvatron shoots the top of the cave the second time, some of the rocks stay in mid-air.
*When they enter the Decepticon lab, Galvatron is taller than Optimus. In most other shots, he's shorter than Optimus.
*As Jessica discovers the alloy in the lab, Optimus is missing the Autobot symbol on his shoulder.
*After she makes the discovery, a shot shows the sides of Optimus' midsection in white instead of red.
*When Galvatron is threatening Optimus after they find the heat-resistant metal, Galvatron's cannon has a trigger on it.
*When escaping after Galvatron is infected, Optimus and his cab are colored entirely white (as if already coated in the resistant metal!)
*Searchlight and Chase fire their first few laser shots at Rodimus without any sound effects. Their first shots are purple, but in the next shot they're firing orange lasers.
*During the subsequent fighting, nobody gets the right sound effect; the Throttlebots and Rodimus all use a non-standard laser sound.
*When he first meets Optimus, Rodimus is missing his Autobot symbol.
*The subsequent shots show Rodimus as semi-transparent.
*As Rodimus drives out of the junkyard a few moments later, he floats above the ground.
[[File:Hate Plague Rodimus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|right|"Hey, Kay, nah, nah, c'mon on man, you get a Series Four De-atomizer and I get a little - little midget cricket?"]]
*Rodimus's gun fires yellow shots at times and purple shots in others. And what happened to his rifle?
*As Optimus grapples with Rodimus, Rodimus's Autobot logo disappears in a few frames.
*The inside of Rodimus' mouth is gray as he delivers the "no one is innocent!" line.
[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime2 Alpha Trion miscolored.jpg‎|thumb|upright=1.4|Trust the Gorton's fisherbot!]]
*The close-up of Optimus aboard the newly-infected Sky Lynx shows a standard non-infected coloration behind him.
*The ceiling of the junkyard plant has beams framing the glass, yet the beams disappear when Sky Lynx crashes through them.
*Sky Lynx ''also'' disappears after crashing through the glass.
*As Optimus struggles with Rodimus the second time, Optimus's Autobot logo is framed in white in some shots, black in others.
*When Optimus takes the Matrix from Rodimus, the "glow" from the Matrix lags behind the Matrix itself when he raises it up. Rodimus's chest cavity is also a huge chasm, rather than the usual Matrix-sized compartment.
*In the next shot, Rodimus is laying there with his chest suddenly closed again.
*When Optimus is talking to Alpha Trion, Alpha Trion is miscolored. He's grey, slate blue and orange when shown from the front, and entirely orange when shown from the side. He should be grey, dark red and dark blue.
*When Headstrong and Tantrum get smushed by the doors, they cry out in generic, distinctly non-Predacon voices.
*When Optimus activates the Matrix, its handles disappear. They're back again in the next shot.
*Jessica's facial appearance in this episode is different than it was in Part 1.
*"But the Matrix is empty!" - Hot Rod has the extra lines on his face that accompany his incarnation as Rodimus.
*As Optimus is explaining that the Matrix must be refilled with the future wisdom, he is colored as if he still has the heat resistant metal on him.
*In the same shot, Hot Rod looks bigger than Optimus even though he should be much smaller (especially now that he's not Rodimus anymore).
*In the last shot of the episode, Optimus is missing his smoke stacks, the front of his cab has the gray stripes but the sides do not, and his trailer is again missing its Autobot logo; meanwhile, Blurr clips into Kup and his front end disappears from the frame.

===Continuity errors===
*Optimus's last line in Part 1 was "This time, no force in the universe can stop me." His first line here is "''Now'', no force in the universe ''will'' stop me."
*Sky Lynx is in two parts at the beginning. He was the full walking bird at the end of the last episode.
*After Sky Lynx's recap, Optimus is seen getting up from a table and walking over to where he was a minute earlier. There was no table behind him in previous shots, and no reason for him to lay down for a moment.
*So....how ''exactly'' does Sky Lynx know every single detail of what happened in the previous episode? He wasn't even there when half of those recapped events took place!
*Given that the Autobots are in a rush to save the galaxy, why did the Quintessons take the time to retool Bumblebee into Goldbug?
*How did Kup know that Rodimus had been contaminated? He was deactivated by Superion before that happened, and wasn't around for Sky Lynx's recap.
*The alloy is heat-resistant to the point of surviving a supernova in the [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|previous episode]]. Yet it now can be melted down to coat Optimus Prime with it.
*A machine is used to coat Optimus Prime with this superheated alloy. What was ''it'' made out of, and why wasn't that material used?
*And did anyone manage to explain how heat resistance works against spores? What exactly do the writers think [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore spores] are?
*Appearing/disappearing Autobots:
**The Transformers wounded by [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (and listed by Sky Lynx) included Steeljaw and Wheelie. At the Autobot lab, Wheelie is replaced by Blaster.
**Steeljaw is revived at the Autobot City lab, but not seen afterwards.
*Continuing the confusion started by the combiners last episode, the infected Decepticons work ''together'' to fight Galvatron and the others, instead of attacking each other.
*Worse, when outnumbered by the Autobots, Cyclonus orders the other Decepticons to retreat, and they follow his command.
*Sky Lynx doesn't help during the spider attack, even though he ''can'' fly.
*Where's the trailer go?
**Optimus is coated in the alloy in robot mode. How does his trailer get coated?
**For that matter, where's the trailer been hanging out for the past couple of years since Optimus died, and how did he get back together with it? It just kinda rolls in as usual when he first transforms.
*Goldbug, Kup and Blaster get infected without being touched; in fact they don't even try to avoid it. Sky Lynx was right next to them but doesn't get infected. Huh?
*Sky Lynx suddenly grows up a pair of hands to pick up Galvatron's [[particle cannon]] with. Even if they're supposed to be his bird mode legs (which they appear to be based on), he's appeared only in his bird half ever since they arrived on Charr, so what is he standing on?
*Shouldn't Jessica's full-body exo-suit protect her from direct contact and infection?
*After Jessica Morgan and Galvatron got infected, Optimus and Sky Lynx speed off. Jessica makes a jump for Sky Lynx and briefly clings onto his tail before losing her grip, yet Sky Lynx ''still'' doesn't get infected.
*How do the support beams in the junkyard plant hold Optimus and Rodimus' weight?
*Rodimus's Matrix chamber opens via a pair of rectangular swing-out doors much like Optimus' chamber. In "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4," the door opened in the middle of the flame on his chest. In "Dark Awakening", it hinged across the left side of the flame, and the whole design opened to reveal the chamber.
*When Optimus puts the Matrix into his chest, he puts it in ''lengthwise''. Surely his months of deactivation haven't made him forget how the thing sat in his chest for ''millions of years''?
*The infected transformers work ''together'' to find Optimus Prime, instead of attacking each other.
*"It" tells Prime that "a wise man was able to contain the spores, but...no one had the wisdom to [destroy them]." The implication seems to be that a smart dude figured out a way to control the spores. Yet Prime - and the plot - proceed to interpret this as meaning that "wisdom" is like some kind of laser beam spore-cleaning agent - just point it at the spores and pull the trigger!
*In the movie, the Matrix took up the top half of Optimus' chest compartment and was behind a flip-up panel. Here, it fills in the whole (now hollow) cavity with no panel or other electronics to be seen.
*How exactly did Jessica get off [[Chaar]]?
*And what are she and Gregory Swofford doing in [[Moscow]] by the time they're cured of the Hate Plague? It's not just a case of an accidentally recycled background from the previous shot (which did depict actual Russians being cured of the Hate Plague)—even though both shots feature onion domes reminiscent of Saint Basil's Cathedral, they're definitely different background paintings. So... what gives?
*How did they get the alloy ''off'' Optimus Prime? And why would they want to, if it's so resilient? (Unless... they just painted over the alloy?)
[[File:Swafford&morganG1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"Take our hands! Please!" "Make it your faces and we'll talk."]]
*The timing of the last scene is odd. It's long enough after the cure is unleashed for Optimus to have the metal removed or painted over, and for Kup, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, and the three humans to arrive at Autobot City. Yet Galvatron is still hanging around, and both he and Hot Rod speak as though the previous scene's events just happened.
**Interestingly, Galvatron is consistently portrayed without his cannon in this scene.
*Does anyone else think that Dr. Swofford and Morgan get off waaaaay too easy at the end of the episode? They ''willingly'' unleash the hate plague that causes widespread devastation (and probably death) across not just the world but the entire galaxy, just to spite the Autobots, and they get off by just saying "sorry"? (Then again, we don't actually ''see'' Optimus shaking their hands. Burn!)

===Continuity notes===
[[File:It wireframe.gif|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Prime says of Galvatron: "That's because I know you too well..." As this is the first time he's really dealt with Galvatron (apart from a brief firefight while being a half-alive quasi-zombie in "[[Dark Awakening (episode)|Dark Awakening]]"), it seems clear that he regards him as little different from his earlier incarnation as [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].
*Furthering the sense that the Throttlebots were thrown into this two-parter at the last minute, the only dialogue they receive comes in this episode: a collection of generic barely-on-screen shouts delivered by [[Frank Welker]] ("Smash Rodimus!") and another actor ("After him!"), rather than any of the performers who actually were cast to play the individual Throttlebots in "[[The Rebirth, Part 1]]".
*Optimus's journey through the Matrix gives us a look at some of its early bearers. It almost goes without saying that these robots don't resemble any of the ones we saw back in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]". Moving backwards in time, they include:
**A broad-faced 'bot with prominent cheekguards
**A slimmer, decrepit-looking 'bot in similar colors.
**A heavily-bearded 'bot
**A wireframe-style entity referred to in the script as "[[It]]", bearing a strong resemblance to a Quintesson Judge's Death head. A version of this design appeared previously in Rodimus Prime's dream sequence in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]".
*Upon entering the Matrix of Leadership, the first Autobot that Optimus Prime encounters is Rodimus Prime; then he converses with Alpha Trion. The latter's appearance there is somewhat puzzling, as it was [[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2|previously established]] (and [[The Rebirth, Part 2|later reiterated]]) that he had merged with Vector Sigma. Alpha Trion's presence makes even ''less'' sense considering that it was clearly stated in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]" that he had never taken the Matrix for himself, thus eliminating the possibility that a "backup copy" of himself had somehow been "uploaded" into it. A variety of later fiction would, indirectly, offer explanations centering around the connection between the [[Allspark]], the Matrix, Vector Sigma and Primus. In Alpha Trion's case he's in the afterlife, which one can communicate with through both the Matrix and Vector Sigma. Rodimus's presence is more murky, but can be accounted for by the notion of the Matrix as a gateway to the Allspark.
*Optimus using the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague bears more than a passing resemblance to when Rodimus Prime used the Matrix to destroy [[Unicron]] in [[The Transformers: The Movie|''The Movie'']]. They've even got "[[The Touch]]" playing in the background.
*In Japanese continuity, the events of [[The Great Transformer War issue 3|issue 3]] of ''[[The Great Transformer War]]'' take place shortly after this episode, helping to bridge the gap between it and "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]", the first episode of ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]''.

===Real-world references===
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**A mix of [[TIE Fighter]] and [[X-wing Fighter|X-Wing]] engines as Sky Lynx rescues the Quintesson during the recap.
**The sound of the darting Seeker ball can briefly be heard as Prime's chest pops open to unleash the Matrix's power.

===Trivia===
[[File:DialogueScriptTROOPOrionPax.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|So this is odd.]]
*Following the average-for-[[Toei]] Part 1, this episode's artwork quality is among the series' best, with loads of detailed shading, the same pink-glowing-smoke-explosions seen in ''Transformers: The Movie'', and characters generally on-model and well-drawn.
*The portion of "The Touch" that plays includes the line about "Hell breaking loose," an unusually strong word for an American '80s TV cartoon. Guess the censors were looking elsewhere that day. (Amusing timing as a bamboozled Galvatron says "What is this?", seemingly in reaction to the song replacing the show's usual background music!)
*The [[Sunbow Productions]] cast list entry for this episode lists Orion Pax as appearing. A flashback to Optimus Prime's early days that was removed for time constraints, you might think? No. According to the [[dialogue script]] for the episode, Orion Pax was originally going to be the one to ask Prime why he had returned to the Matrix! Presumably someone on staff caught the error early enough, as Pax's line in the final cut went to Alpha Trion. (The dialogue script also misspells "Trion" as "Tion", for that matter.)
*After abusing his own troops throughout Season 3, there's something deeply satisfying in seeing Galvatron being attacked by his soldiers.
*[[Jack Angel]] takes over as the voice for Cyclonus following the death of [[Roger C. Carmel]].
*This is the final episode of the original American G1 cartoon to be animated by Toei. All of the Japanese-made G1 cartoons would be animated by Toei.

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' '''Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime, Teil 2''' ("The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' コンボイの復活パート2 (''Convoy no Fukkatsu Part 2'', "The Resurrection of Convoy Part 2")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 25]], [[1987]]
:*The Japanese version of this episode has a slightly alternate ending. After Optimus Prime and the Autobots ride off into the sunset and "the Touch" ends, the music changes to "[[Transformer 2010|TRANSFORMER 2010]]" by [[Shō Hirose]] and the scene shifts to a montage of all the major characters from the series.
:*This montage replaces the "[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]" segment focusing on [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] used in the US broadcast. The Ultra Magnus "Secret Files" segment was never used in the Japanese broadcast of the series.
:*Following this episode, Japanese cartoon continuity diverges from the Western continuity. Rather than lead into "[[The Rebirth]]" three-parter, Japanese continuity instead continues in their domestically produced series, ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: The Headmasters]]''.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1987 — ''The Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime ([[Family Home Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 1987 — ''Transformers'' — Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime (Zweiter Teil) ([[Polyband]]) — German audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — ''Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime: Optimus Prime the Ultimate Robot ([[Tempo Video]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1989 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime / Cosmic Rust (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume 7: The Return of Optimus Prime ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-116.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

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[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1

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|ep=94
|ep2=31
|prev2=The Desperate Struggle of Justice
|next2=The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2
|image=ReturnOptimusPrime1 Optimus lives.JPG
|caption=And there was much rejoicing (yay).
|title="The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1"
|production code=700-115
|airdate=[[February 24]], 1987
|written by=[[Marv Wolfman]] [[Cherie Wilkerson]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''An embittered scientist uses the body of Optimus Prime to unleash a dangerous plague on the Autobots and, ultimately, the universe.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:ReturnofOptimus1 Prime rescue.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"You're right, it is athlete's foot."]]

While on a deep-space mission in the ''[[Solaris]]'' to test a new [[Impervious alloy|heat-and-radiation-resistant alloy]] that they have developed, scientists [[Jessica Morgan]] and [[Gregory Swofford]] detect a ship carrying Optimus Prime's body on a collision course with a planetoid orbiting a star they are researching nearby. Despite Gregory's reservations (his face was scarred in a previous scuffle between [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], which he blames on Optimus), he is talked into helping Jessica rescue Prime's body before the ship collides with the planetoid, the impact of which also sets off the star into a supernova and coating their ship with unusual spores.

[[File:ReturnofOptimus1 Scattershot rescues Jessica.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Don't worry, I'll help you rescue your daug-OOH LOOK, A BUNNY!]]

Upon return to Earth, Jessica's father studies the spores and learns that they are not only alive, but are an [[Hate Plague|incredibly contagious viral agent]] that induces hatred and destructive urges into whoever they contaminate. After a new scuffle between the Technobots and Terrorcons over the new alloy gravely injures Jessica, her father is convinced by Gregory to try and resurrect Prime's body as a carrier of the spores against the Autobots, a sentiment exacerbated when it's learned Jessica was paralyzed from the waist down in the accident and now needs a special exosuit to walk. However, when reviving Prime's body turns out to be impossible for them, Gregory and Jessica's father decide to use it as bait for the other Autobots. Dr. Morgan forces Jessica to lure them into a spore trap at the lab.

The trap goes off without a hitch, mostly due to Rodimus' reckless haste in recovering his predecessor's corpse in lieu of caution, and several Autobots—including Superion and Defensor, two of the most powerful Autobot gestalts—are infected. The Decepticons have learned about Optimus Prime's recovery as well, and have shown up to terminate the former Autobot leader permanently, but are instead infected themselves. Fortunately, Rodimus, Jessica, and Galvatron manage to escape unharmed, the former two with Optimus' body; a few other Autobots manage to escape infection as well, but are badly wounded while attempting to subdue a sickened and crazed Superion.

[[File:ReturnofOptimus1 Magnus sneaks up.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Rodimus has [[Energy vampire|no reflection]]?]]

Back at Autobot City, Rodimus pleads to Wreck-Gar to try and repair Prime, but Prime is too far gone even for Junkion medical experience. Desperate, Rodimus contacts Sky Lynx and orders him to locate and bring back a Quintesson, remembering that they had [[Dark Awakening (episode)|once before restored Optimus to life]]. He then sets about disconnecting Metroplex to keep the city-former from becoming infected. However, just as he finishes the final steps to do so, an infected Ultra Magnus appears. He gives chase to Rodimus before he's temporarily subdued by Wreck-Gar...who ends up becoming infected, and infecting Rodimus in return.

[[File:ReturnofOptimus1 Quintesson fixing Prime.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|You put your right arm in. You put your right arm out.]]

TV station [[KSUN]] reports that the Hate Plague, as it's now called, has spread like wildfire across the planet. Scenes of chaos and destruction unfold in [[Washington, D.C.]] and elsewhere. The plague has even made its way off-world, sending the Quintessons into hiding at the ends of the galaxy. Sky Lynx finds [[Klementia|an uninfected Quintesson]] who he saves from infected Sharkticons in exchange for reviving Optimus. The Quintesson warns that—should anything go too awry during the process — there's a good chance that Optimus will never live again. It's touch-and-go for a while, but eventually, the Quintesson manages to pull through and Optimus is restored to full life, declaring that "no force in the Universe can stop me."

[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|To be continued]]...

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Afterburner (G1)|Afterburner]] (11)
*[[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]] (12)
*[[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)|Lightspeed]] (13)
*[[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]] (14)
*[[Nosecone (G1)|Nosecone]] (15)
*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]] (17)
*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (18)
*[[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (19)
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] (20)
*[[Wideload (G1)|Wideload]] (21)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (22)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (23)
*[[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] (24)
*[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] (26)
*[[Groove (G1)|Groove]] (27)
*[[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (28)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (29)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (30)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (31)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (32)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (33)
*[[Chase (G1)|Chase]] (34)
*[[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] (35)
*[[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] (36)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (37)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (38)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (39)
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (40)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (51)
*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] (52)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (53)
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (54)
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (5; flashback)
*[[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]] (6)
*[[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]] (7)
*[[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]] (8)
*[[Blot (G1)|Blot]] (9)
*[[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Gurrr]] (10)
*[[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] (16)
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (25)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (41)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (42)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (43)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (44)
*[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (45)
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (46)
*[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] (47)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (48)
*[[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] (49)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (50)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (56)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (57)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (58)
|c3=
*[[Gregory Swofford]] (1)
*[[Jessica Morgan]] (2)
*[[Mark Morgan]] (3)
*[[Bonnie Carlson]] (55)
|c4=
*[[Klementia]] (59)
*[[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] (60)
}}

==Notable quotes==
"Computron think too much!"
:—'''Abominus''', who subsequently shoots Computron

"Why do I keep seeing you in my dreams, Optimus? Are you telling me I'm not the leader ''you'' were? I already know that, Optimus. I always have."
:—'''Rodimus''' ponders in front of [[Optimus Prime memorial|Optimus's memorial statue]] in Metroplex.

[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime1 hate-plague Magnus.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
"Where's that punk Rodimus Prime?! I want him!" 
"There you are, you puny wimp!" 
"You can't escape, Rodimus! I can track your gas fumes anywhere!"
:—Several lines from infected '''Ultra Magnus''' as he tracks down Rodimus Prime. ''In virus veritas,'' indeed.

"The Autobots are acting like madmen!" 
"It's a madness plague, Galvatron. If one of those Transformers touches you, you're infected." 
"You're lying!" 
"Fine. Whatever makes you a happy Decepticon. Just watch your rear thruster."
:—'''Galvatron''' and '''Rodimus Prime'''

"I'm a doctor, not a forklift!" 
"His engines, they cannae take the strain!" 
"He's dead, Jim." 
:—'''Wreck-Gar'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s inspired medical descriptions of Optimus Prime's condition

"It's over, kid. I've won!" 
"Don't believe it, old friend!"
:—Infected '''Ultra Magnus''' blocks '''Rodimus Prime''', who evades him.

"Like I said before, kid. It's all over. What...? ARGH!" 
"And as ''I'' said before: Don't believe it."
:—Infected '''Ultra Magnus''' corners '''Rodimus Prime''', only to be lassoed by Wreck-Gar.

"I'm a pepper! Wouldn't you like to be a pepper, too?"
:—'''Wreck-Gar''' merrily spreads the infection.

"They've all gone mad. This is no place for me!"
:—The irony is lost on '''Galvatron.'''

"The world needs a leader now!"
:—'''Sky Lynx''' on the reactivation of Optimus Prime

"I've done it! Optimus Prime lives!" 
"It's true. Our leader is back." 
"Yes, Sky Lynx, and this time, no force in the universe can stop me."
:—'''Quintesson''' and '''Sky Lynx''' as the decidedly confident '''Optimus Prime''' is revived

==Season 5==
{{note|When this episode was rebroadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it contained new bookending segments with original story material.}}

[[File:PrimeTommyInterviewAgain.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|right]]

[[Tommy Kennedy (G1)|Tommy]] meets with [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] in the barren wasteland to continue his interview inquiring as to how Optimus came back from the dead. Tommy recaps the time Prime came back as a zombie and was blown to smithereens and is curious how Optimus escaped ''that'' one. Optimus proceeds to relate the adventures of his inanimate corpse...

Tommy wants to know the rest of the tale, but Optimus only teases the conclusion. Apparently, he promised [[Cloudburst]] that he would help him redesign his retro-rockets and the appointment can't wait. Prime sets Tommy down, but promises to return soon to transform his day into an adventure.

{{--}}

==Notes==
===Animation and/or technical glitches===
[[File:Swindle TROOP.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|"So we bought your daughter's exosuit from a Decepticon...what's so bad about that?"]]
*The first shot of Prime's ship shows it colored in orange. In all other shots, it's white with orange landing gear. And it looks totally different from its [[Dark Awakening (episode)|last appearance]].
*The first shot of Optimus Prime on Gregory's display shows him sitting in a red chair. It's yellow in other shots.
*As the duo first come upon Prime's body, he's missing the vertical line on his abs/grille.
*The animation and editing seem to conflate Prime's ship hitting the asteroid (shown using rather incongruently recycled animation from "Dark Awakening") with the star going nova at the same instant, conveying them as though they were the same event.
*If the star is going nova - shouldn't its light be visible outside the windows behind Jessica?
*In the first interior shot of Morgan's lab, the two test rats are already red before they've been infected. One is layered behind the glass box that's containing him, too.
*The screen separating the infected rats rises up out of solid table. In the same shot, the three humans' colors all change shade several times; meanwhile, the infected rats aren't glowing anymore.
*As Computron falls through the lab's ceiling, the hand that breaks through the building is colored purple like Abominus's.
*Abominus's visor is white instead of red as he stomps on the building; his helmet has some gray parts that should be purple as well.
*There's no transition between the Terrorcons being merged as they stomp on the building, and them showing up separated just a shot or two later.
*The Terrorcons grab the alloy in their beast modes, yet in the next shot they're running out with it in robot mode.
*As Jessica is being loaded into First Aid, Gregory and Mark are wearing smocks, not the suits and ties they wear in other shots.
*When Gregory and Jessica's father rush at the hospital and find the Autobots, [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] is amongst them. This does at least explain why Hot Spot is standing around in a ''hospital'' with a gun in his hand. Hot Spot's chestplate is also blue, instead of its proper red.
*Jessica grabs tops of Optimus' arm to try and save him from the incinerator (though one of her hands fails to actually connect with Prime's arm, instead floating just above it.) The next shot shows it towering over her.
*As he drives Jessica into Autobot City, Ultra Magnus is shown driving into a tunnel in one shot, but in the next he's in open air.
*Optimus' statue is missing the smoke stacks on its arms.
*The depressions on Rodimus' shoulders are white again in this episode. They were burgundy in the previous one.
*Rodimus' helmet is missing its horizontal line in this episode.
*When Rodimus is done talking to Optimus' statue, his head slides backwards. Twice.
*Rodimus' helmet is missing its horizontal line in this episode.
*When Defensor is shown after the Protectobots combine, his left arm is missing, and his forehead is colored blue instead of his eyes.
*After transforming to jet mode during Magnus's rollcall, Silverbolt sort of floats along at an angle.
*Steeljaw just pops into the frame during the Autobot rollcall.
*When Ratbat returns:
**A layering error has him in front of Soundwave's chest compartment door, instead of disappearing behind it.
**His cassette form is white instead of purple.
**Soundwave looks down after his chest closes up, but his faceplate stays in its previous position of looking upwards.
**Soundwave's vocoded voice processing (provided by [[Scott Brownlee]]) sounds higher pitched than usual.
*When Galvatron says, "So Optimus Prime may yet live." For a second his chin turns black.
*When the Jessica exits Rodimus, she's wearing her space suit and not wearing her exoskeleton.
*When Jessica points at the lab, her neckline is layered over her hand.
*When Rodimus dispatches some of the Autobots to watch the area around the lab, Wheelie is missing his Autobot symbol.
*Before entering the lab to retrieve Prime's body, Rodimus gives orders to Defensor...though Defensor is shown as the one mouthing all of those orders. In the same shot, Chase is colored as Goldbug (who hasn't even been built yet!)
*The red glow around infected characters seemed to create all kinds of problems for the animators:
**The glow aura is frequently out of step with the animation or visible through objects in front of them
**Infected characters often become briefly transparent, allowing background objects to be seen through them.
**Often characters are just red, without the glowing aura effect, as when Superion breaks through the lab roof.
*When the Autobots get infected, several are shown clipping through each other.
*Slingshot is shown mouthing Magnus's lines about "that punk Rodimus Prime".
*Jessica's bracelet disappears from and re-appears on her right wrist throughout the episode - including during the shot when she turns to run back to the lab (when Rodimus says "We've got to get Optimus outta here!")
[[File:ROOP1 superion hateplague.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Superion shoots a gun with the sound effect of Megatron's cannon. Defensor fires back with Optimus Prime's usual sound effect.
**Superion's still using the same sound effect later, along with a whining after-effect, when he takes out Kup and company.
**Then Ultra Magnus gets in on the act as he blasts his way into the Autobot lab with the same sound effects.
*Superion is not nearly as huge as he should be when he takes on the police officers.
*As Rodimus first makes his escape from Magnus, he drives past two [[Throttlebot]]s... with the Decepticon Wildrider standing between them. (at this point, the Decepticons have yet to arrive on the scene, let alone become infected.)
*Mark's thrown jar doesn't leave behind any pieces after it shatters.
*Galvatron's chin is gray in some shots, dark gray in others.
*As the Decepticons walk into the loading area, Bruticus is the same size as all the regular Decepticons.
*Rodimus's windshield is colored solid as he makes his escape from the lab.
*First Aid is shown brawling with the Decepticons at the lab; at this point he is out with the Protectobots, not yet infected.
*Kup's vehicle mode is drawn like a van instead of a truck as he pulls up behind Superion.
*Flying Autobots:
**Blurr sort of floats along sideways as he shoots at Superion.
*Superion manages to hit all the Autobots attacking him... without lifting his gun arm to shoot!
*Defensor's chest plates are blue instead of black as he tries to clear the bridge.
*Rodimus's mouth doesn't move as he starts talking about Quintessons.
*Sky Lynx is shown flying out of the solar system past Saturn, but it's colored white instead of yellow.
*When Rodimus notices Magnus behind him, his eyes are lined thicker than usual. He sees Magnus's reflection in the viewscreen, but not his own.
*When Wreck-Gar is about to infect Rodimus, Rodimus is all red before he's been infected.
*During Brawl's rampage, he somehow manages to infect an inanimate truck.
*As an unconscious man leans against this truck, a pair of infected people fight over both him and the truck, overlapping them as if it they weren't there.
*Headstrong bumps into Razorclaw; as Razorclaw gains the infected glow effect, a layering error causes him to jump from behind Headstrong to in front of him, and back again.
[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime1 InfectedVortex.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Vortex, meanwhile, flies into a commercial jetliner through its passenger door! In the same shot, he's visible through the arm of a passing human. He also gets the Autobot laser sound effect when he opens fire.
*The rioting humans at the Lincoln Memorial are wielding bats which also glow infection-red.
*When Defensor picks up a stone monument to throw, the monument gains a red aura around it, but does not become red. The red aura disappears when the monument is thrown.
*Before being picked up by Sky Lynx, one of the Quintesson's faces flashes red for a moment.
*The Quintesson's death face is missing its left-side cresting as he prepares to reactivate Prime.
*The Quintesson's Egyptian-styled head is facing Optimus at the end, but one shot shows it facing backwards.
*During his famous line at the end of the episode, Optimus Prime's mouthplate isn't moving.

===Continuity errors===
[[File:Retcon.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Someone fixed Prime's body, but no one can fix the story.]]
*More or less this entire episode is a massive continuity error, as it purports to pick up at the end of Optimus Prime's last prior appearance in "[[Dark Awakening (episode)|Dark Awakening]]", yet actually presents entirely different conditions. In the prior episode, Optimus Prime lost an arm and half of his face (on top of his longstanding physical damage still left from the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]]), but was still alive as he managed to steer his ship at high speed through the heavy fire of a massed Quintesson spacefleet, deliberately ramming a detonator that caused a binary supernova and obliterated the ship and the entire solar system around it. Yet in this new episode, Optimus Prime is shown completely intact and pristine, albeit dead, as his (completely different) ship drifts, slowly and alone, through the system.
**Some of these inconsistencies can be attributed to the fact that "Dark Awakening" was animated by AKOM, and this episode by Toei.
**The original script addressed the events of "Dark Awakening," right down to his severely damaged state. It included sequences in which he was repaired by Dr. Morgan and Dr. Swofford in order to weaponize him with the spores. Interestingly enough, there were also scenes showing Rodimus Prime experiencing nightmares playing out in the celestial Autobot tomb, where he encountered his zombified predecessor. For some reason, most likely running time, these scenes didn't make it into the final episode.
*Jessica Morgan and Gregory Swofford detect life-signs aboard Optimus Prime's ship, but the Autobot is dead.
*Gregory says Prime's ship is about to collide with a planet, while the animation shows the ship approaching a small, irregular asteroid.
*Unlikely viewpoints:
**Gregory and Jessica get a shot of Prime sitting inside his ship.
*Superhuman <s>Spike</s> humans:
**Jessica Morgan and Gregory Swofford are able to lift, push and pull Optimus Prime's massive body out of his chair and onto their ship without any mechanical assistance or devices except a rope. There's no gravity in space, but objects still have mass and therefore inertia.
*Why didn't any of the Autobots notice Optimus Prime's body when they were loading Jessica into the ambulance? Sure he was half buried under rubble, but a truck-sized leader of your own faction shouldn't be ''that'' hard to notice?
*Why is Steeljaw part of the Autobot roll call when Blaster is not?
*Even though Ratbat's reconnaissance recording consists of nothing more than an ambiguous, one-line statement by Jessica Morgan - "My father has his body in the lab." - Galvatron immediately knows that she's referring to Optimus Prime.
*Why have the Protectobots merge before traveling to the lab? Did Defensor have to [[:File:Loveandsteel-runfortmaxrun.jpg|run the whole way?]]
*Doctor Morgan throws spores at Rodimus, apparently not noticing that ''his own daughter'' is inside him, even though we see her clearly through his windows in several other shots.
*When Jessica Morgan asks who built Optimus Prime in the first place, Rodimus Prime responds by saying the Quintessons did so - but it was [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] who rebuilt Orion Pax into Optimus. While the Quintessons are credited with creating the Transformer race, the timeline shown by "[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]" and "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]" would have to be seriously stretched out of shape for Orion Pax to have been directly created by them - Orion's clearly meant to be a youngish 'bot in "War Dawn", long after the Quints have been driven off Cybertron.
*Why is Rodimus so desperate to bring Optimus back from the dead even after he's aware of the much more pressing concern of the Hate Plague?
*Improbable viewpoints:
**Rodimus contacts Sky Lynx and gets an exterior visual of him somehow.
*Rodimus decides to deactivate Metroplex to stop him from catching the plague, but Magnus is infected and already walking around on him well before Rodimus pushes the last switch.
*If the Quintessons really are "in hiding in the far reaches of the galaxy" as Sky Lynx claims, then how did any of the at-the-time-still-Earthbound Hate Plague carriers manage to find them, much less get all the way out there to infect them in the first place?
*For that matter, how the hell did these theoretical Hate Plague carriers manage to ''beat Sky Lynx to the Quintessons''?
*How are Sky Lynx and the Quintesson able to take the time to revive Optimus Prime without being attacked? Did all the other Autobots and humans leave Autobot City?
*And how does Sky Lynx know the Quintesson is repairing Prime back to the way he was before he died, rather than the brainwashed version from "Dark Awakening"? It's possible he stood and watched as they worked to ensure they didn't do just that.

===Continuity notes===
[[File:ReturnOptimusPrime1 Chase infected.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|Here begins an almost criminal legacy of scriptwriters abusing the Throttlebots.]]
*Seemingly thrown in at the last moment, the [[Throttlebot]]s make their debut. They're only visible in a handful of shots, Rollbar is missing, and none of them are identified by name.
*Swofford and Morgan must've spent ''one hell of a long time'' repairing Optimus Prime if they managed to retrieve him from the Quintessons' detonator all the way back to [[Dark Awakening (episode)|"Dark Awakening"]]. Either that, or Optimus died before his ship hit the detonator and his ship drifted precariously off course for the last several months.
*It's not clear what Rodimus means by "disconnecting" Metroplex; he apologizes as though it's a terrible thing, leading some fans to speculate that he was shutting him down for good - but later he says that Metroplex is "safe", implying that he's just... separated somehow.
*The Hate Plague can apparently infect any creature, both purely mechanical and biological.
*The Autobots are implied to have created the exosuit for Jessica so she can walk again. Hmm, one wonders if this technology could have been [[Chip Chase|useful before now]]…
*Even though it occurs in a flashback, this is ''technically'' the last appearance of Megatron in the original American series.

===Real-world references===
*Jessica mentions World War II.
*Courtesy of Wreck-Gar:
**"Lucy, Lucy, what have you done now?" Is a reference to ''[[wikipedia:I Love Lucy|I Love Lucy]]''.
**"I'm a doctor, not a forklift!" and "He's dead, Jim," reference popular quotes from ''[[Star Trek]]'' medic [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Leonard_H._McCoy Dr. Leonard H. McCoy].
**Similarly, "His engines, they cannae take the strain!" comes from another ''Star Trek'' character, namely [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Montgomery_Scott Montgomery Scott] (AKA Scotty), though this is often claimed to not be attributed to the character except for its use in parodies.
**"I'm a pepper! Wouldn't you like to be a pepper, too?" is a reference to an old [[wikipedia:Dr Pepper|Dr Pepper]] ad campaign in the late '70s to early '80s.
*A couple of the infection rioting scenes seem to portray [[Washington, D.C.]]. Humans are shown rioting at a badly-drawn Lincoln Memorial; the monument that Defensor throws ''may'' be intended to be the [[Washington Monument]], though it's awfully stumpy and shouldn't have a projecting cap on top. He throws it into a Classically styled building, another common DC element.

===Trivia===
*The resurrection of Optimus Prime in the show was a direct result of children's reactions to his death in ''The Transformers: The Movie'' and subsequent letters, as acknowledged by a Hasbro exec in a 1986 newspaper article. He didn't even have a toy on the shelves (which changed in 1988 with the release of Powermaster Optimus Prime).
*Jessica Morgan is named after co-writer Marv Wolfman's daughter.<ref>http://www.marvwolfman.com/marv/Speaking_With_Larry_Ditillio.html</ref>
*When Rodimus wants to put together a team to pick up a dead body from a couple of humans, he doesn't mess around, does he?

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' '''Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime, Teil 1''' ("The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' コンボイの復活パート1 (''Convoy no Fukkatsu Part 1'', "The Resurrection of Convoy Part 1")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 18]], [[1987]]
:*A "[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]" segment unique to Japan was attached to the end of this episode. It focuses on the many battles between the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s and the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]]s. It replaces the original "Secret Files" segment which focused on the Autobots.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1987 — ''The Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime ([[Family Home Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 1987 — ''Transformers'' — Die Rückkehr von Optimus Prime (Erster Teil) ([[Polyband]]) — German audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — ''Transformers'' — The Return of Optimus Prime: Optimus Prime the Ultimate Robot ([[Tempo Video]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1989 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime / Cosmic Rust (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume 7: The Return of Optimus Prime ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-115.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

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Talk:Starscream (G1)/toys

2016-03-19T16:30:09Z

Takeshi357:

==Pretender Starscream Request==
I don't have Pretender Starscream to test this, but I see the entry says the tail fin guns can't be stored, which I'm fairly sure is wrong. I believe the fin guns can peg into the holes on either side of the upper part of the rifle. Can anyone verify this for me?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:17, 4 August 2010 (EDT)

I had that figure a few years ago and yes it was possible to do that. I remember it not feeling like it was quite designed to do it, like it was just a coincidence they could stick on there but it was certainly possible.[[Special:Contributions/86.31.91.215|86.31.91.215]] 09:47, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

==Secret Starscream==
Nakas of Autobase Aichi has put forth the idea that "Secret Starscream", like Super Collection Figure Skywarp, was never actually sent out due to the bankruptcy of Keibunsha, the publisher. I *think* either the Binaltech And TF Collection book or one of the Generations 2009 books shows Secret Starscream, but I'd have to check to be sure, and I'm not sure what exactly is said about the piece either way. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:31, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:Ah-ha. It was in Generations 2009 volume 2.

:[http://obscuretf.com/tfscans/SecretStarscream.jpg Secret Starscream]

:Anyone want to take a crack at what that says? (At least we can get rid of the red speculation 'til then.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:33, 12 December 2009 (EST)

:The page says:
::The toy is the Prize A (and not-for-sell) for the Keibunsha mook ''Transformer(s) Generation(s)''".
::Although the details aren't revealed on the book, its plastic parts are all transparent.
::The package is as same as the one used for #004.
: <nowiki>;-D</nowiki> --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:05, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

== Transmetal Waspinator ==

I think it should also be considered a Starscream toy due to its portrayal in fiction. Trust me in this one.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: Which fiction? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::Probably the Sourcebook... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
:::*facepalm* --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::::Was that a yes?--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 21:41, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::Considering that Optimus Primal gets a bunch of random entries on his toys page, because he gets a new body for five seconds in some Japanese text stories, shouldn't we put both Waspinator's Regular beast and Transmetal body on this page? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:40, 9 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Wait... it just hit me... Starscream possesses a bunch of bot's in his ghost appearances, doesn't he? Urgh. What a nightmare... Maybe just a note or something... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:43, 9 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::I'd go with notes. Starscream possesses these others, their bodies are still their own. On the other hand, if a character ("Character A") is given a new body all his own that is a duplication of another character ("Character B")'s body the toy representing that body should be considered as a repurposed toy for Character A. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:12, 9 January 2011 (EST)

== Alternate caption idea ==

I think perhaps a funnier caption for his first Masterpiece toy would be "[[Puppet|I look like.... Thundercracker.]]" [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 19:05, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

== GID MW Starscream Missiles ==

I have an odd variant of the MW Starscream figure that includes Glow-In-The-Dark missiles. The stock in South Eastern CT (as well as who-knows-where-else) seemed to include these in good numbers, as the original that I bought (and still have) included them, as did a second example that I sent to Orson Christensen/Sidecutter (of Captured Prey) in trade (or if my memory is failing, he may have verified that the one he bought in KY also included them...in any event, he confirmed that I didn't have the only one)

I have always assumed (since they're not standard) that this was just an example of lax QC on the line, and someone tossed GID plastic pellets into the hopper because it was pretty close in color to the right plastic and no one noticed.

In any event, I recently pulled the box with MW Screamer out of storage and tonight I verified that I really really do have phosphorescent missiles. I tried a few different things to take a picture but haven't had much luck. Any suggestions on how to provide photographic proof are welcome, or if the powers-that-be are willing to accept my tale on faith, I could just add a note to the entry...
--[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 21:10, 16 November 2010 (EST)

== Recent Starscream toys ==

By the way why there is a rubsign on a G1 toy that comes with lots of accessories including fists, null rays, wings, tail rudders, tails, thrusters, landing gear and the Decepticon planes era Starscream? I thought rubsigns are introduced in reveal the shield?([[User:Ihateyawning|Ihateyawning]] 23:56, 24 January 2011 (EST))
:Rubsigns were introduced in 1985 and have been used as recently as Classics and the Universe reissues. "Reveal the Shield" did not introduce them, it merely brought them back into the public eye. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:58, 24 January 2011 (EST)

== Things One, Two and Three ==

1) Like MCRG above, I was pretty sure Pretender Starscream's robot guns could be mounted on his shell's rifle. Can anyone confirm this? I don't have him. Am I being misled by Metalhawk?
2) I'm pretty sure, but not certain, that the Ghost of Starscream statue is probably not actually translucent polystone, but what is it? PVC? ABS? Surely some kind of plastic.
3) Whoever wrote the Skystriker Starscream blurb seems to have forgotten about Ti Megs. Actually, I'll just fix that one.
-[[User:LV|LV]] 10:09, 31 March 2011 (EDT)

== Masterpiece Starscream ==

Given I have watched Macross, I do not think that the scabbard side fins on MP-03 are an homage to Armada or Energon. This is a common cheat Kawamori employs when designing jets. If you don't believe me look at the YF-19

http://ghostlightning.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/macross-plus-yf-19-mmm.jpg

or the YF-21

http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/413455-5/P6176635.jpg

I think whoever put that in there is under the spell of wishful Armada fanwanking.

==2013 Generations Armada Starscream==
Since IDW has repurposed this as a new body for IDWG1 Starscream, should that toy be posted here as well? Or perhaps a note made of it? --[[User:Altercron|Altercron]] 10:38, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:I believe it should, just as was done for WFC Shockwave. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 10:57, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
::Oh yes, there's no question it should be. I think we just haven't done it yet because it hasn't actually appeared in the comics yet. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:59, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Ah that makes sense. I haven't been keeping up with IDWs series, relying on TFWiki for that. --[[User:Altercron|Altercron]] 11:09, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
:Assuming he'll come packed with an IDW G1 comic, we might have to list this guy mainly on the (G1) page, and as a repurpose on the (Armada) page, with the toys on both pages being listed with a note concerning the repurpose, just like what we did with [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling30|both]] [[Thundercracker (WFC)#Generations|Thundercrackers]]. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 18:19, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
ah, now i find a talk section, after the edit. -facepalm- Still needs a bit of work i think, in the written bit. --[[User:Mini-master|Mini-master]] 08:12, 8 November 2013 (EST)

== Neutered Missile Launchers? ==

In various entries for the '84-'85 toys, it is said that the Hasbro missile launchers had their springs weakened or removed. Was this a running change or something? Over the winter break I went home with my brothers and we went through a lot of our old toys. Among them was one of '84 Starscream's original launchers and two cluster missiles... let me tell you, that sucker is NOT neutered; the missile can fly pretty far, definitely farther than the Commemorative reissue. I'm pretty sure Ratchet and Ironhide's little missile firing thing worked, too, but I can't remember how strong they were (I had a few other figures that had missile launchers but I cannot recall if they worked or not).

Anyways, just something to throw out there. I may go in and edit the comment later if I'm feeling [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be Bold|bold]]. [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] ([[User talk:Magaroja|talk]]) 22:27, 27 March 2014 (EDT)
:I'm no expert on G1 variants but from some quick googling: if the Starscream in question is a dark gunmetal grey colour (link, see lower figure: [http://tfsource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xmex18.jpg]) it may be the Mexican release, which had fully functional missiles. Alternatively, pre-rubsign figures supposedly also had stronger missile springs - pre-rub Seekers can be identified by having smooth, non-ridged cockpit canopies. Failing these, I'd hit up some Transformers forums to seek expert opinions - I'd hesitate to change any articles on the basis of a single incidence... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:12, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

:: Hmm, I suppose he could have been pre-rub; all the stickers have fallen off, unfortunately, and he's in such a state of disrepair that his cockpit is gone, along with the wings (which could tell me if the tips were sanded down or remolded). I'll take a look at the color, but I don't think it's a Mexican release; we lived close enough to a Toys'R'Us growing up that I'm confident he was purchased there. [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] ([[User talk:Magaroja|talk]]) 14:43, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

== Variant or HQ bootleg? ==

I just got a "Reveal the Shield" Starscream from Family Dollar. It came is a packager where the upper front was an IDW style picture of Starscream with "Transformers" in block letters on one side. The package had all the trademarks and info for Hasbro on the package. It's got the 3 mm peg holes but no guns, and the plastic seems to be of good quality. Is this a proper variant of the figure that just "forgot" the guns, one where the guns were intentionally left out, or is it a really accurate (packaging/accessories aside) bootleg? I can take a pic of a packaged sample later if it will help. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream|talk]]) 19:42, 21 April 2014 (EDT)
:New release. http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generations-classics-44/transformers-classics-legends-new-style-packaging-at-family-dollar-179473/ [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 20:24, 21 April 2014 (EDT)

== Chronicle facepaint? and captions ==

Don't want to edit something incorrectly, but [[Starscream_(G1)/toys#Chronicle]] says "This version of the figure is nearly identical to the painted helmet variant of the Hasbro release, except ''the entirety'' of his head is painted black", but [[:File:EZCollectionStarscreamToy.jpg|the pic]] shows him with a non-black face. Does that pic show the correct toy? Is the text in error?

Also, i added two captions, but they aren't quite as perfect as i'd like. If anyone can improve them, that'd be nice--or if you've got something better, go for it. (What about "[[Starscream (G1)/toys#G1Legend|Legends]] tell of a Starscream who [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Pretender|pretends]] he's not evil or spiky"?)

--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 19:43, 24 February 2015 (EST)

== Wing peg extension ==

The pegs on the wings were extended for the reissues but I don't see any of them here mentioning the retool at all, let alone which one was the first to use it. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 12:30, 19 March 2016 (EDT)

The Desert Island of Space!

2016-03-18T22:34:12Z

Takeshi357: /* Featured characters */

{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #39
|prev=Trial by Fire!
|next=Pretender to the Throne!
|title="The Desert Island of Space!"
|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #158–159
|prev2=Trial by Fire!
|next2=Salvage!
|image=MarvelUS-39.jpg
|caption=He's a bad mother... SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|date=December [[1987]]
|coverdate=April [[1988]]
|writer=[[Bob Budiansky]]
|penciler=[[José Delbo]]
|inker=[[Dave Hunt]]
|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]]
|letterer=[[Bill Oakley]]
|editor=[[Don Daley]]
|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
}}
'''Acapulco was never like this...'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Kupdesertisland.jpg|left|upright=0.6|thumb|Stupid kids.]]
As [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] slowly comes to, he quickly realizes he is far from home. The giant [[Decepticon]] robots looming over him are a good clue, as is the [[Club Con|desert island]] locale. [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] debate the fuel-efficiency merits of keeping the young [[human]] alive, with Shockwave defending his position by pointing to the human naval fleet just off the coast of their new island base. He correctly believes that Buster will serve as an effective human shield against any reprisal by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]] or the military. As [[Forrest Forsythe]] and [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] find themselves stymied by the Decepticons, Walter calls home to [[Oregon]] to alert [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] of his son's fate.

At that very moment, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] has come to his father's [[Cascade Vista Motel|motel]] room to inform him that he's going to search for Buster. As Barnett's call comes through, Spike surprises his father by "tracing the call" just by holding the phone wire in his hands. He's forced then to reveal his new status as an [[Autobot]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], and takes his father outside to introduce him to his new partner, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], and the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] troops currently under his command. As Spike is doing the introductions, though, there is dissension in the ranks, especially with [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]], who disapproves of their overly-sentimental new leader.

[[File:Clubconpalmtreespear.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Shockwave prepares for EVERYTHING.]]
As the [[All-Terrain Turbo-Transport|Autobot turbo-transport]] arrives at the island, Kup insists Fortress Maximus remain behind and provide covering fire for the Targetmasters, lest his sentiment interfere directly with the mission. Kup should have been more worried about the island itself interfering, though, as massive cannons and blaster-weapons pop out of the sand and began unloading on the Autobots. Kup and his men are driven back into the water as the island's impenetrable dome forms above the sand, revealing its true form as a giant spacecraft.

In order to save his brother, Spike combines with Fortress Maximus and leaps onto the island craft as it begins shooting out of [[Earth]]'s atmosphere. As the Decepticons inside detect his presence, Shockwave triggers an elaborate defensive mechanism that flips Fortress Maximus off the side of the rocket and directly in line with a palm tree that spears him with a missile. Damaged, [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] splits off from his larger partner, only to be forced into combat with Shockwave himself, who has left the rocket to defend his precious logic from the illogical actions of the Autobot. A blast from Shockwave's gun mode cripples Cerebros, and Spike is forced to separate off once more, leaving himself very vulnerable. However, he manages to remotely line-up Max's guns to target Shockwave, blasting him back into Earth's gravitational pull, where the Decepticon begins to burn up in re-entry.

[[File:Shockwaveburnsup.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|Oh, he's totally dead, we're so sure.]]
Spike has a brief moment of reunion with Buster through the island's transparent casing before Ratbat fires the rockets and takes the ship far beyond Spike's meager propulsion capabilities. As he and his components are picked up by the Targetmasters' transport, Spike laments the loss of his brother. Despite that, his take-charge attitude and success against Shockwave earned him the respect of his fellow Autobots, and Kup officially welcomes Spike onto the team.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] (11)
*[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] (12)
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (14)
*[[Pointblank (G1)|Pointblank]] (16)
*[[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] (18)
*[[Hot Rod/Marvel Comics continuity|Hot Rod]] (19)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (22)
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (24)
*[[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] (25)
|c2=
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] (2)
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (3)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (6)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (7)
*[[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] (8)
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (26)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (27)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] or [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (28)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (29)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (30)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (31)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]] (32)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (33)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (34)
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (35)
*? (36)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (37)
|c3=
*[[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] (1)
*[[Forrest Forsythe]] (4)
*[[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] (5)
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (9)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (10)
|h4=[[Nebulan]]s|c4=
*[[Pinpointer (G1)|Pinpointer]] (13)
*[[Peacemaker]] (15)
*[[Recoil (G1)|Recoil]] (17)
*[[Firebolt (G1)|Sparks]] (20)
*[[Haywire]] (21)
*[[Spoilsport]] (23)
}}

==Quotes==
"'''Raw fish?!''' Do you Decepticons expect me to '''eat''' that?! I '''hate''' sushi!" 
"In that case, fleshling... allow me to make amends." [ZZZZAP!] Here. I hope you like your fuel '''poached'''."
: - '''Buster''' and '''Shockwave'''

==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
*In the scene where many Decepticons are seen in the control room one of them is clearly either [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] or [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. (Like all the non-speaking Decepticons in that scene he's block coloured so it's not possible to identify which, although the block colour [[FIRRIB|is blue]].) However both Decepticons have been in cold storage in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] since "[[Command Performances!]]" in issue #19 and won't be released until "[[Totaled!]]" in issue #41.
*Fort Max apparently makes a flying leap to catch onto the Decepticon ship... but the art makes it look rather like he's just plain flying.

===Continuity errors===
*Forsythe and Barnett incorrectly identify their former Autobot captives as numbering seven total, not six.
*Fort Max signals the transport craft to leave the ''Steelhaven'' and come and leave to pick up the Targetmasters - so how'd they get down to Earth in the first place?
*The ''entire'' island - a huge ship loaded with dozens of Decepticons - was being held back by Fortress Maximus's weight alone?
*Why wasn't Buster sucked out through the top of the island when it opened up to fire the palm tree?
*If Ratbat is so concerned about energy usage, why is he always hovering?

===Continuity notes===
*Barnett catches us up on what's happened with the [[Throttlebot]]s since issue [[Toy Soldiers!|#37]] - the Predacons broke off their hunt, allowing him to collect the scattered 'bots and escape.
*Sparkplug gives us a timeframe for recent events - #37 and [[Trial by Fire!|#38]] all happened "this week".
*Spike's trick with the phone makes it clear that binary-bonding bestows Headmaster partners with more than just transforming ability.
*Kup mentions a battle on [[Deneb IV]].
*Cerebros has rockets in his feet.
*In the US comic, Shockwave is supposedly destroyed, and indeed believed dead for years until he eventually turns up again in US issue [[Dark Creation|#65]].
*Though it's glossed over, one can assume the Autobots stopped off at the naval fleet and collected the Throttlebots from Barnett and Triple-I some time after this issue, as the robots were back with the Autobots by the [[Underbase Saga]].

===Real-life references===
*The story is set in the [[Caribbean Sea]] with an interlude in [[Portland]].

===UK printing===
*The UK version corrects the number of Transformers Triple-I captured to six and the number of Throttlebots Barnett brings with him back down to five... except for the fifth panel on page 7 which is untouched and retains the US error. Whoops.
*It also corrects Spike calling Galen a "Human" during his explanation to Sparkplug.
*It also changes Spike's explanation from stating that he bonded with "Galen's Autobot body" to "Fort's Autobot body", which is arguably an unnecessary correction, since the body of Fortress Maximus is the same thing as the Autobot body of Galen.
*The cameo by Frenzy or Rumble is not an error in the UK continuity as Frenzy escaped the Ark in "[[Target: 2006]]" in issue #83 and had since returned to the main Decepticon forces, as shown in "[[Resurrection!]]" in issue #104.
*In the UK version, Shockwave's supposed demise was edited into the more benign-sounding fate of merely falling to [[Earth]], to allow his continued use in UK only stories such as in very next issue. Specifically, Shockwave's line "Its gravity is pulling me down... into the atmosphere... where it is only logical... that I burn up..." was changed to the much less ironic "it is only logical... that I fall to earth..." A couple of Ratbat's lines have also been changed to reflect that Shockwave does not die, and these changes similarly drain the irony from his lines.
*All of these changes are sloppy, and look like they were penned in by a six-year-old.

'''Issue #158'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''[[Action Force (comic)|Action Force]]'' - "Serpentor" and ''[[Combat Colin]]''
*'''[[Transformers AtoZ|AtoZ]]:''' [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]
*In ''[[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams]]'', [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] attempts to clear up confusion over whether Fortress Maximus's original partner was Galen or Kord, and continually teases on the events in the upcoming issues [[Salvage!|#160 & 161]].

'''Issue #159'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''Action Force'' - "Serpentor" and ''Combat Colin''
*In ''Grim Grams'', Grimlock accepts yet more praise for "[[The Legacy of Unicron!]]" and the last 50 issues.

===Other trivia===
*Fort Max gives us nearly two solid pages of [[To sell toys|toy-sellery]] as he explains himself and the Headmaster gimmick, and introdumps the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]].

===Bot Roster===
*Ark Autobots: 34 active, 6 bodyless Throttlebots, 11 in repair bay. (51 total)
*''Steelhaven'' Autobots: 28 active.
*Ratbat's Decepticons: 32 active; 12 offline/missing as Shockwave falls to Earth. (44 total)
*Scorponok's Decepticons: 25 active.

===Covers (7)===
<gallery>
File:MarvelUS-39.jpg|'''US issue #39''' - Shaft. Tee hee.
File:MarvelUK-158.jpg|'''UK issue #158''' - Ta da!
File:MarvelUK-159.jpg|'''UK issue #159''' - "Lets copy the US cover but make it WORSE."
</gallery>
*'''US issue #39 cover:''' Fortress Maximus shafted, by [[José Delbo]].
*'''UK issue #158 cover:''' Shockwave holding Buster, by [[Dan Reed]].
*'''UK issue #159 cover:''' truly ugly copying of the US cover, by [[Will Simpson]] and [[Dave Elliott|David Elliott]].
<gallery>
File:Titan-TrialByFireSC.jpg|'''''Trial By Fire'' TPB'''
File:Titan-TrialByFireHC.jpg|'''''Trial By Fire'' hardback'''
File:Classic Transformers Vol3.jpg|'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 3'''
File:TFClassicsVol4.jpg|'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 4'''
</gallery>
*'''''Trial By Fire'' TPB cover:''' Fortress Maximus, [[Gort]], Shockwave, and half of [[Skullgrin]], by [[Andrew Wildman]].
*'''''Trial By Fire'' hardback cover:''' [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], by [[John Watson]].
*'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 3 cover:''' panels from US issues [[Child's Play (issue)|#35]], [[Spacehikers!|#36]] and [[People Power!|#42]]. Art and pencils by José Delbo, pencils by [[Don Perlin]], finishes by Dave Hunt & [[Don Hudson]], inks by [[Ian Akin]] & [[Brian Garvey]], colours by Nel Yomtov.
*'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 4 cover:''' [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], by [[Guido Guidi]].

===Advertisements===
*None yet identified.

===Reprints===
*[[2004]] — ''[[Transformers: Trial by Fire]]''
*[[2009]] — [[Classic Transformers Volume 3|''Classic Transformers'' Volume 3]]
*[[2012]] — [[The Transformers Classics, Vol. 4|''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 4]]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Desert Island of Space!}}
[[Category:Marvel US issues]]
[[Category:Marvel UK issues]]

The Desert Island of Space!

2016-03-18T22:33:44Z

Takeshi357: misidentified

{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #39
|prev=Trial by Fire!
|next=Pretender to the Throne!
|title="The Desert Island of Space!"
|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #158–159
|prev2=Trial by Fire!
|next2=Salvage!
|image=MarvelUS-39.jpg
|caption=He's a bad mother... SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|date=December [[1987]]
|coverdate=April [[1988]]
|writer=[[Bob Budiansky]]
|penciler=[[José Delbo]]
|inker=[[Dave Hunt]]
|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]]
|letterer=[[Bill Oakley]]
|editor=[[Don Daley]]
|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
}}
'''Acapulco was never like this...'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Kupdesertisland.jpg|left|upright=0.6|thumb|Stupid kids.]]
As [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] slowly comes to, he quickly realizes he is far from home. The giant [[Decepticon]] robots looming over him are a good clue, as is the [[Club Con|desert island]] locale. [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] debate the fuel-efficiency merits of keeping the young [[human]] alive, with Shockwave defending his position by pointing to the human naval fleet just off the coast of their new island base. He correctly believes that Buster will serve as an effective human shield against any reprisal by [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]] or the military. As [[Forrest Forsythe]] and [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] find themselves stymied by the Decepticons, Walter calls home to [[Oregon]] to alert [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] of his son's fate.

At that very moment, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] has come to his father's [[Cascade Vista Motel|motel]] room to inform him that he's going to search for Buster. As Barnett's call comes through, Spike surprises his father by "tracing the call" just by holding the phone wire in his hands. He's forced then to reveal his new status as an [[Autobot]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], and takes his father outside to introduce him to his new partner, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], and the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] troops currently under his command. As Spike is doing the introductions, though, there is dissension in the ranks, especially with [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]], who disapproves of their overly-sentimental new leader.

[[File:Clubconpalmtreespear.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Shockwave prepares for EVERYTHING.]]
As the [[All-Terrain Turbo-Transport|Autobot turbo-transport]] arrives at the island, Kup insists Fortress Maximus remain behind and provide covering fire for the Targetmasters, lest his sentiment interfere directly with the mission. Kup should have been more worried about the island itself interfering, though, as massive cannons and blaster-weapons pop out of the sand and began unloading on the Autobots. Kup and his men are driven back into the water as the island's impenetrable dome forms above the sand, revealing its true form as a giant spacecraft.

In order to save his brother, Spike combines with Fortress Maximus and leaps onto the island craft as it begins shooting out of [[Earth]]'s atmosphere. As the Decepticons inside detect his presence, Shockwave triggers an elaborate defensive mechanism that flips Fortress Maximus off the side of the rocket and directly in line with a palm tree that spears him with a missile. Damaged, [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] splits off from his larger partner, only to be forced into combat with Shockwave himself, who has left the rocket to defend his precious logic from the illogical actions of the Autobot. A blast from Shockwave's gun mode cripples Cerebros, and Spike is forced to separate off once more, leaving himself very vulnerable. However, he manages to remotely line-up Max's guns to target Shockwave, blasting him back into Earth's gravitational pull, where the Decepticon begins to burn up in re-entry.

[[File:Shockwaveburnsup.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|Oh, he's totally dead, we're so sure.]]
Spike has a brief moment of reunion with Buster through the island's transparent casing before Ratbat fires the rockets and takes the ship far beyond Spike's meager propulsion capabilities. As he and his components are picked up by the Targetmasters' transport, Spike laments the loss of his brother. Despite that, his take-charge attitude and success against Shockwave earned him the respect of his fellow Autobots, and Kup officially welcomes Spike onto the team.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] (11)
*[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] (12)
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (14)
*[[Pointblank (G1)|Pointblank]] (16)
*[[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] (18)
*[[Hot Rod/Marvel Comics continuity|Hot Rod]] (19)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (22)
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (24)
*[[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] (25)
|c2=
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] (2)
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (3)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (6)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (7)
*[[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] (8)
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (26)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (27)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] or [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (28)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (29)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (30)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (31)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]] (32)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Rampage]] (33)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (34)
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (35)
*? (36)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (37)
|c3=
*[[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] (1)
*[[Forrest Forsythe]] (4)
*[[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] (5)
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (9)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (10)
|h4=[[Nebulan]]s|c4=
*[[Pinpointer (G1)|Pinpointer]] (13)
*[[Peacemaker]] (15)
*[[Recoil (G1)|Recoil]] (17)
*[[Firebolt (G1)|Sparks]] (20)
*[[Haywire]] (21)
*[[Spoilsport]] (23)
}}

==Quotes==
"'''Raw fish?!''' Do you Decepticons expect me to '''eat''' that?! I '''hate''' sushi!" 
"In that case, fleshling... allow me to make amends." [ZZZZAP!] Here. I hope you like your fuel '''poached'''."
: - '''Buster''' and '''Shockwave'''

==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
*In the scene where many Decepticons are seen in the control room one of them is clearly either [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] or [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. (Like all the non-speaking Decepticons in that scene he's block coloured so it's not possible to identify which, although the block colour [[FIRRIB|is blue]].) However both Decepticons have been in cold storage in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] since "[[Command Performances!]]" in issue #19 and won't be released until "[[Totaled!]]" in issue #41.
*Fort Max apparently makes a flying leap to catch onto the Decepticon ship... but the art makes it look rather like he's just plain flying.

===Continuity errors===
*Forsythe and Barnett incorrectly identify their former Autobot captives as numbering seven total, not six.
*Fort Max signals the transport craft to leave the ''Steelhaven'' and come and leave to pick up the Targetmasters - so how'd they get down to Earth in the first place?
*The ''entire'' island - a huge ship loaded with dozens of Decepticons - was being held back by Fortress Maximus's weight alone?
*Why wasn't Buster sucked out through the top of the island when it opened up to fire the palm tree?
*If Ratbat is so concerned about energy usage, why is he always hovering?

===Continuity notes===
*Barnett catches us up on what's happened with the [[Throttlebot]]s since issue [[Toy Soldiers!|#37]] - the Predacons broke off their hunt, allowing him to collect the scattered 'bots and escape.
*Sparkplug gives us a timeframe for recent events - #37 and [[Trial by Fire!|#38]] all happened "this week".
*Spike's trick with the phone makes it clear that binary-bonding bestows Headmaster partners with more than just transforming ability.
*Kup mentions a battle on [[Deneb IV]].
*Cerebros has rockets in his feet.
*In the US comic, Shockwave is supposedly destroyed, and indeed believed dead for years until he eventually turns up again in US issue [[Dark Creation|#65]].
*Though it's glossed over, one can assume the Autobots stopped off at the naval fleet and collected the Throttlebots from Barnett and Triple-I some time after this issue, as the robots were back with the Autobots by the [[Underbase Saga]].

===Real-life references===
*The story is set in the [[Caribbean Sea]] with an interlude in [[Portland]].

===UK printing===
*The UK version corrects the number of Transformers Triple-I captured to six and the number of Throttlebots Barnett brings with him back down to five... except for the fifth panel on page 7 which is untouched and retains the US error. Whoops.
*It also corrects Spike calling Galen a "Human" during his explanation to Sparkplug.
*It also changes Spike's explanation from stating that he bonded with "Galen's Autobot body" to "Fort's Autobot body", which is arguably an unnecessary correction, since the body of Fortress Maximus is the same thing as the Autobot body of Galen.
*The cameo by Frenzy or Rumble is not an error in the UK continuity as Frenzy escaped the Ark in "[[Target: 2006]]" in issue #83 and had since returned to the main Decepticon forces, as shown in "[[Resurrection!]]" in issue #104.
*In the UK version, Shockwave's supposed demise was edited into the more benign-sounding fate of merely falling to [[Earth]], to allow his continued use in UK only stories such as in very next issue. Specifically, Shockwave's line "Its gravity is pulling me down... into the atmosphere... where it is only logical... that I burn up..." was changed to the much less ironic "it is only logical... that I fall to earth..." A couple of Ratbat's lines have also been changed to reflect that Shockwave does not die, and these changes similarly drain the irony from his lines.
*All of these changes are sloppy, and look like they were penned in by a six-year-old.

'''Issue #158'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''[[Action Force (comic)|Action Force]]'' - "Serpentor" and ''[[Combat Colin]]''
*'''[[Transformers AtoZ|AtoZ]]:''' [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]
*In ''[[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams]]'', [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] attempts to clear up confusion over whether Fortress Maximus's original partner was Galen or Kord, and continually teases on the events in the upcoming issues [[Salvage!|#160 & 161]].

'''Issue #159'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''Action Force'' - "Serpentor" and ''Combat Colin''
*In ''Grim Grams'', Grimlock accepts yet more praise for "[[The Legacy of Unicron!]]" and the last 50 issues.

===Other trivia===
*Fort Max gives us nearly two solid pages of [[To sell toys|toy-sellery]] as he explains himself and the Headmaster gimmick, and introdumps the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]].

===Bot Roster===
*Ark Autobots: 34 active, 6 bodyless Throttlebots, 11 in repair bay. (51 total)
*''Steelhaven'' Autobots: 28 active.
*Ratbat's Decepticons: 32 active; 12 offline/missing as Shockwave falls to Earth. (44 total)
*Scorponok's Decepticons: 25 active.

===Covers (7)===
<gallery>
File:MarvelUS-39.jpg|'''US issue #39''' - Shaft. Tee hee.
File:MarvelUK-158.jpg|'''UK issue #158''' - Ta da!
File:MarvelUK-159.jpg|'''UK issue #159''' - "Lets copy the US cover but make it WORSE."
</gallery>
*'''US issue #39 cover:''' Fortress Maximus shafted, by [[José Delbo]].
*'''UK issue #158 cover:''' Shockwave holding Buster, by [[Dan Reed]].
*'''UK issue #159 cover:''' truly ugly copying of the US cover, by [[Will Simpson]] and [[Dave Elliott|David Elliott]].
<gallery>
File:Titan-TrialByFireSC.jpg|'''''Trial By Fire'' TPB'''
File:Titan-TrialByFireHC.jpg|'''''Trial By Fire'' hardback'''
File:Classic Transformers Vol3.jpg|'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 3'''
File:TFClassicsVol4.jpg|'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 4'''
</gallery>
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*'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 3 cover:''' panels from US issues [[Child's Play (issue)|#35]], [[Spacehikers!|#36]] and [[People Power!|#42]]. Art and pencils by José Delbo, pencils by [[Don Perlin]], finishes by Dave Hunt & [[Don Hudson]], inks by [[Ian Akin]] & [[Brian Garvey]], colours by Nel Yomtov.
*'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 4 cover:''' [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], by [[Guido Guidi]].

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All Hail Megatron issue 12

2016-03-13T17:40:40Z

Takeshi357: /* Synopsis */

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'''There's a nuclear bomb coming to blow up a city as Prime and Megatron trade blows and viewpoints, and somebody has to fly up and stop it! [[Prime Directive issue 6|Haven't we been here before?]]'''

==Synopsis==
In [[New York City]], the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s continue to battle. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] swats [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] with a broken street light, wanting to avenge [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s death. Suddenly, [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] surprises him and reveals that he was the one responsible for Sunstreaker's actions by toying with the mind of his former [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] partner, [[Hunter O'Nion]]. Before Bombshell can kill Sideswipe, though, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] punches him in the face. However, he, too, gets taken by surprise by [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. Skywarp is incredulous about Kup's presence, since he had heard that [[Spotlight: Kup|Kup had gone crazy]]. Kup, insulted by Skywarp's "scrap heap" joke, fires at his chest, and falls near the [[Statue of Liberty]], where [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] struggle. Devastator claims that nothing can stop him, but Omega proves otherwise by blasting straight through his chest (along with Lady Liberty), and Devastator falls into the ocean.

At Central Park, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], [[Hawke|Colonel Hawke]], and the remaining army troops fire at [[Dropshot (G1)|Dropshot]], but without success. Sparkplug orders Hawke to leave, with the [[European Union]] plane (secretly the Decepticon [[Octane|Tankor]]) heading its way to drop the nuke at the city. Hawke protests, but Sparkplug persists, saying that he might lose his son, and that he doesn't want any of his men to join him. Meanwhile, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and his "team" make it to the rooftop of a building and stay low, witnessing two of the large robots begin their duel. Armed with the secret weapon [[All Hail Megatron issue 9|he stole]], Spike decides to target the silver one. [[Bridge]] asks Spike if the other one is on their side, and Spike replies that he hopes so, considering how big it is.

[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] continue to grapple, Megatron relentlessly questioning Prime on why he cares about the [[human]]s after they've tortured an Autobot and put plans in motion to kill millions of their own people in a nuclear strike against the Transformers. Prime retorts that it's not only about protecting the humans; it's about also about the difference between himself and Megatron – what makes one a Decepticon and one an Autobot.

In [[Central Park]], Sparkplug fires a bazooka at Dropshot, who briefly staggers. Enraged and hurt, Dropshot declares that after having been stuck spying on the humans for so long, there's nothing that can stop him from tearing them all apart now. But in a silent, ironic counterpoint, Kup emerges from the water behind him.

Meanwhile, Prime and Megatron continue to exchange blows, but Megatron gets the upper hand by head-butting Prime and throwing him into a building. Megatron stands over Prime and tells him he respects him for his continued struggle. Nevertheless, Megatron orders Tankor to proceed with the bombing, and Tankor, shedding his European Union disguise, obliges. Bridge tells Spike to shoot fast, but Spike can only wait for it to charge up. Megatron orders the Decepticons to leave, but Blitzwing bemoans the loss of the [[space bridge]] and the city. Megatron replies that the Decepticons have other planets, and starting again is a price worth paying for the death of the Autobots alongside the humans. Bridge warns Spike that the Decepticons are about to flee, and Spike at last pulls the trigger.

Just as Megatron is telling Prime that he's going to take the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] with him, the blast from Spike's gun hits him square in the face. Seizing the opportunity, Prime grabs Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] off the ground and smashes it ''hard'' against Megatron's head. Megatron, crackling with electricity, falls to the ground, defeated and broken. The Autobots begin to celebrate, but as Optimus advances towards Megatron, a voice stops him; it's [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]! Optimus asks him what he's doing, and Starscream replies that he is fulfilling his role as a [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] by "protecting the leader of the Decepticon Empire." Prime tells Starscream that this isn't like him; he could leave Megatron and assume leadership of the Decepticons himself. But Starscream, repeating what Megatron [[All Hail Megatron issue 11|had told him]], says that leadership must be taken, not magically given by chance, which Prime would never understand.

Optimus asks Starscream if he's running, to which he replies that he's merely done playing. He claims the Decepticons outnumber the Autobots across the galaxy, the Autobot army is in tatters, and the Decepticons are victorious. Prolonging the battle would gain them nothing, and the Autobots wouldn't waste their time pursuing them when there's a nuclear bomb on the way. As the Decepticons lift off, the Autobots ponder how to stop the bomb. They realize that someone needs to fly up to it, and they're shocked to hear Thundercracker volunteer.

Thundercracker declares that none of the Autobots can fly in [[robot mode]], and when Optimus brings up Omega Supreme, Thundercracker dismisses him as lacking the necessary finesse. Ironhide asks why a Decepticon would help, and Thundercracker explains that there is no honor in the bomb. Drift, a former Decepticon, tries to welcome Thundercracker into the Autobot ranks, but Thundercracker swats his offered hand aside, refusing to speak to a traitor. Thundercracker says that the humans were unworthy adversaries, that the Decepticons are creatures of combat, not slaughter, and that all of their actions on Earth have been dishonorable. With that, Thundercracker takes off and grabs the nuclear weapon as it falls, then flies it into space and fires at it, detonating it safely.

[[File:AHM12 Betrayer.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|"How ''dare'' you behave according to your bio!"]]
The Autobots finally celebrate their victory, and Hound introduces Prime to the mystery sniper, Spike Witwicky. Prime praises Spike's remarkable skills, but Spike passes the credit to his "remarkable weapon." In Central Park, Sparkplug and Kup have a chat about outer space and Kup's "[[cigar]]" while sitting on the fallen body of Dropshot. Meanwhile, Thundercracker is en route to join the Decepticons when Skywarp teleports behind him and accuses him of betrayal. Thundercracker tries to tell Skywarp that Megatron had lost his way, but the furious Skywarp shoots him point-blank in the face.

Optimus Prime tells Spike that his people are free, but they must rebuild and recover. He says that the humans will need leaders like Spike and his comrades, heroes they can turn to in desperate times. The Autobots had traveled from their homeworld of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to free the humans from the Decepticons' tyranny, and Prime offers whatever help he and the Autobots can give. Spike, while professing appreciation, says that he doesn't think humanity is going to accept them, given that the Transformers had brought their own war to Earth. As Spike declares the impossibility of a "union" between humans and Autobots, Sideswipe puts deed to word in Bombshell's lab: Stricken with horror at the sight of Hunter O'Nion's ravaged physical state, Sideswipe turns off the machines supporting his tortured life.
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==Featured characters==
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*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (1)
*[[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (4)
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (6)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (15)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ironhide]] (21)
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (22)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] (23)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (29)
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (30)
*[[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] (31)
*[[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] (32)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] (33)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (34)
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*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (2)
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] (3)
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (5)
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (7)
*[[Dropshot (G1)|Dropshot]] (8)
*[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (16)
*[[Octane|Tankor]] (17)
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (18)
*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (19)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (20)
*[[Spectro]] (?) (24)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (25)
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (26)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (27)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (28)
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*[[Sparkplug Witwicky|Daniel Witwicky]] (9)
*[[Hawke]] (10)
*[[Bridge]] (11)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (12)
*[[Sarah]] (13)
*[[Charles (G1)|Charles]] (14)
*[[Hunter O'Nion]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"Word is you went ''crazy.'' Figured you'd be in the ''scrap heap'' by now, Kup."
:—'''Skywarp''' read "[[Spotlight: Kup]]" just like the rest of us.

"No! You will ''not'' defeat Devastator! You are ''nothing!''" 
"Wrong. I am ''Omega Supreme!''"
:—'''Devastator''' and '''Omega Supreme's''' final exchange, wherein Omega continues to push his Transformer equivalent of "I'm Batman."

"Leadership of the Decepticons must be ''taken,'' Prime. Not ''magically'' offered up by ''chance.'' Something your kind will ''never'' understand."
:—'''Starscream''' disses the Matrix while also stealing it.

"Brother. I'm glad you have seen the way, your choice is—" 
"Do not ''speak'' to me. I'm no ''traitor'' to my ''kind.''"
:—'''Drift''' gets no love from '''Thundercracker''', either.

"So what's with the [[cigar]]?" 
"What's a 'cigar'?"
:—'''Sparkplug''' and '''Kup''' talk about Kup's "sparkplug," appropriately enough.

==Notes==
* While it has been obliquely hinted at [[Spotlight: Drift|before]], Kup's brush with insanity is finally acknowledged directly, though not in a way that actually ''addresses'' the disconnect.
* [[Octane]], like his ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy, now goes by the name of Tankor. Poor guy.
* The [[Decepticomments]] section describes the ''Coda'' issues and provides art from some of the covers.

===Errors===
* In the description of the ''Coda'' issues, #16 has [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]]'s story as a second "Story 1" rather than "Story 2". Also, Guido Guidi is misspelled as "Guido Guido". Ok, we ''get'' it, he's [[Italy|Italian]]!
* When Prime talks to Spike on page 21, he's probably supposed to start with "Your people are free," not "Our people".
* When Bombshell re-appears after being punched out by Kup, the damage to his face is missing.

===Covers (3)===
* '''Cover A:''' A "reverse" of issue 1's cover, with Prime holding an waving American flag and Megatron's fusion cannon; art by [[Casey Coller]] with colors by [[Joana Lafuente]].
* '''Cover B:''' Prime versus Megatron; art and colors by [[Trevor Hutchison]].
* '''Apocalypse Comics Exclusive Cover:''' Homage to ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #50, with Megatron in place of Spidey; art by Casey Coller with colors by Joana Lafuente.
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Talk:Buzzsaw (G1)

2016-03-12T20:32:09Z

Takeshi357:

Was Buzzsaw ever shown in cassette mode in the G1 cartoon? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I know he has a character model for a cassette mode, it's in Generations.

:Um... City of steel maybe? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think he was shown ejecting in Atlatis, Arise! [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 19:43, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Buzzsaw's color scheme and decals are not original to Transformers. Like [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]'s red color sceme, he was a special release, packaged with another figure. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.193.166|141.225.193.166]] 23:27, 14 November 2011 (EST).

Could someone explain me the origin of this "Buzzsaw is an unstoppable killing machine" meme? It can't be just because he blew away Omega Supreme, can it? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 15:32, 12 March 2016 (EST)

Talk:Cybertron (planet)

2016-03-11T21:38:50Z

Takeshi357: /* spelling */

I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::Isn't "Seibertron" the commonly accepted anglicanization? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 16:38, 11 March 2016 (EST)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

Talk:Decepticon Earth Base (Headmasters)

2016-03-10T12:59:28Z

Takeshi357: Created page with "Isn't this the same base we saw the Decepticons build way back in MTMTE? ~~~~"

Isn't this the same base we saw the Decepticons build way back in MTMTE? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 07:59, 10 March 2016 (EST)

The Burden Hardest to Bear

2016-03-04T06:56:47Z

Takeshi357: /* Animation or technical glitches */

{{episode
|series=G1toon
|ep=93
|series2=2010
|ep2=28
|prev2=The Face of the Nijika
|next2=Daniel's Adventure
|image=Matrix burden 2.jpg
|caption=You found me beautiful, once.
|title="The Burden Hardest to Bear"
|production code=700-114
|airdate=[[November 19]], 1986
|written by=[[Michael Charles Hill]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Overwhelmed by the burdens of leadership, Rodimus Prime doesn't care too much when the Decepticons steal the Matrix of Leadership away from him.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:BurdenHardest Defensor Bruticus.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|So, uh... If what looks like is about to happen happens... does it count as an orgy?]]

At dawn, the people of [[Japan]] are awakening to do their daily tasks: fishing, going to shrines, and sword practice. Then, the [[Decepticon]]s show up to cause random trouble.

[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] begin harassing a few fishermen, but are chased off by [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]. [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] tries to ram a train head on (real smart) only to have the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] drive him away. [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] fight it out, when [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and the [[Sweep]]s arrive, but are driven off by [[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus]], [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]], and [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. However, instead of thanking the [[Autobot]]s for saving many lives, the government of Japan is very upset, saying that the Autobots frightened people and ruined business (thankless bipeds). When [[Marissa Faireborn]] arrives and brings more problems to Rodimus, the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] loses patience, [[Transformation|transforms]], and drives off. Kup explains that Rodimus is merely strained under the burden of command, much like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was in his early days as leader, and Marissa decides to follow him, to let him have someone to talk to.

[[File:Matrix burden 1.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Galvatron takes the brown acid.]]

Meeting up on the highway, however, the two are attacked by [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] and [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]], who knock Marissa's [[spinner]] into a lake and force Rodimus off a cliff. When they inspect Rodimus, they find the Matrix. Realizing that [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] will be ''really'' happy, they steal it and return to [[Chaar]]. In his throne room, Galvatron inserts the Matrix into his cannon, but instead of making it even more powerful like he had hoped, visions of the [[Ancient Autobots]] (including Optimus Prime himself) seep out of the barrel and demand that Galvatron return the Matrix. Galvatron orders [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] to destroy the Matrix, believing it better to be destroyed if the Decepticons can't have it. Scourge, however, inserts the Matrix into himself, and becomes more powerful... but at a startling price.

[[File:BurdenHardest Hot Rod recover.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Augh... can't get the mental image of Bruticus/Defensor out!]]

Meanwhile, the Autobot leader wakes up, to learn that he's reverted to Hot Rod. [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] argue that they should go after the Decepticons, but Hot Rod feels that the Matrix isn't worth it, and jets off. Real smart idea, Roddy. On Chaar, Scourge challenges Galvatron, defeating him and Cyclonus easily, before leading the Decepticons off to Earth. Galvatron and Cyclonus still function, and set off in pursuit in the ''[[Revenge (G1)|Revenge]]''.

[[File:BurdenHardest Hot Rod retrieves matrix.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Yoink!]]

On Earth, Hot Rod, while watching a martial arts class, gets some perspective and some wisdom from the kendo instructor, and realizes that he needs to get the Matrix back. Meanwhile, Scourge arrives in Japan with his forces, tossing around the Autobots. Broadside tosses him to the ground and he frightens an elderly woman. Ozu, one of the kendo students, comes to her aid, attacking Scourge with a sword and he begins to chase the pair. He corners them in a blind alley, only for Hot Rod to arrive. Shocked at the changes the Matrix has wrought in Scourge, Hot Rod defeats the Decepticon and reclaims the Matrix, becoming Rodimus Prime once more. Galvatron and Cyclonus find a less powerful, and very frightened, Scourge. And they are none too happy with him...

As the Decepticons retreat, Rodimus realizes that he must deal with his missing part, as have those who came before him. Kup reminds him that no matter who carries the Matrix, he will retain that part forever.
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==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (1)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (8)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (9)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (10)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (11)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (12)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (13)
*[[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (14)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (21)
*[[Hot Rod/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod]] (22)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (23)
*[[Ancient Autobots]] (35)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (36)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (37)
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (38)

|c2=
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (2)
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] (3)
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] (4)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (5)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (6)
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (7)
*[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (15)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (18)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (19)
*[[Sweep]]s (20)
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (24)
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (25)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (26)
*[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (27)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (28)
*[[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] (31)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (32)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (33)
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (34)
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (39)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (40)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (41)
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (42)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (43)

|c3=
*[[Ozu's sensei]] (16)
*[[Ozu (G1)|Ozu]] (17)
*Disgruntled businessmen (29)
*[[Marissa Faireborn]] (30)
*[[Old Japanese lady]] (44)
}}

==Quotes==
"Eh, you've had worse times." 
"Yeah, when do they get better? That's what ''I'' wanna know."
:—'''Kup''' and '''Rodimus'''

"[[Wikipedia:Second City Television|He done blowed up real good]]."
:—'''Wildrider''', master of grammar

"You dropped it, didn't you? You broke the Matrix, didn't you?!"
:—'''Galvatron'''

"Aren't you getting a little carried away here? I'm still me, you're still you: Matrix, schmatrix."
:—'''Hot Rod''' is flippant after losing a hand-me-down.

"We're too late, Galvatron! Scourge has already launched his assault!" 
"He doesn't know the meaning of the word assault, but he's going to learn!"
:—'''Cyclonus''' and '''Galvatron'''

"Oh no, we're trapped! We'll be killed!" 
"Remarkable. The woman is clairvoyant!" 
:-'''Scourge''' mocks his intended victim.

"The Matrix did this to you? Then I have to take it back. I see now it is my obligation. I belong to it... as much as it belongs to me!"
:—'''Hot Rod'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s realization at last.

"Well, son of a gun. Found that missing part, huh?" 
"Not just the Matrix, Kup, a missing part of... myself."
:—'''Kup''' and '''Rodimus Prime'''

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
*Coloring errors:
**Devastator is colored olive green rather than light green in the opening battle.
**Behind him, Predaking is colored entirely orange.
**The first time we see Cyclonus, his nose cone is purple. In the next shot, part of it is grey.
**Onslaught - visible for only a split second as Bruticus separates - remains in the light gray color of Bruticus's torso, even though he should be dark blue. Swindle's weapons are also colored the same yellow as Swindle himself, instead of dark gray.
**Rodimus' spoiler should be orange in the middle, but many shots have it colored completely in yellow.
**Magnus's missiles are white instead of red as he turns to receive Kup's report on the missing Hot Rod. In the same shot, Springer's cheekguards are abnormally huge.
**In one shot of Optimus Prime's "ghost", he is colored completely blue.
**The orange shapes on Cyclonus' chest are colored red in several shots.
**In the pan across the fallen Cyclonus, Hook (standing between Predaking and Drag Strip) is colored like Dead End.
*Devastator splits apart into the Constructicons off-screen, with no transformation sound and no indication of ''why'' he separated.
[[File:BurdenHardestBear Constructicons water.JPG|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Hook has two optics instead of a visor as the Constructicons retreat.
*A shot of Astrotrain from the human train's perspective shows no tracks on the ground.
[[File:BurdenHardest superion in flight.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Superion's mouthplate doesn't move as he speaks; his voice continues giving the command to separate after his components have separated.
*The Aerialbots' lasers simply come from unmarked points on their wingtips.
*Rodimus' crest is missing the horizontal line during most shots in this episode.
*When Rodimus is called to the palace, he's missing his Autobot logo.
*As he says, "When do they get better, that's what I want to know," Rodimus' face becomes all glitched up, with a partially miscolored helmet and a huge shadow line where his eyes should be.
*For some reason, the [[Earth Defense Command|EDC]] [[insignia|logo]] on Marissa Faireborne's shoulder has been replaced with "AOC".
*When Rodimus drives away from Marissa, his smoke trail appears behind Kup instead of in front of him. Also, Sky Lynx is missing in the shot.
*Improbable viewpoints:
**Rodimus' display shows a rear angle shot of Dead End and Wildrider, but he's in'' front'' of them.
[[File:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*When Wildrider holds the matrix, it looks like a big yellow blob. The next shot shows it in the usual colors and configuration.
*After Wildrider and Dead End drive off with the Matrix, Rodimus reverts to robot mode; the animation of him settling into place is played twice.
*While Rodimus is reverted to Hot Rod, he's still occasionally drawn using Rodimus Prime's [[character model]].
[[File:BurdenHardest Chaar and moons.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"...A burnt-out hulk of a planet called Chaar, a world of... ash... and ruin? What?"]]
*Chaar is portrayed using Cybertron's post-Movie model, with two similarly designed moons.
*Attending Galvatron's throne room are several Decepticons of made-up design, colored as Constructicons (in the same olive-yellow seen previously.)
*Galvatron's throne changes color and design multiple times throughout one scene.
*The ghost image of Optimus has two fog lights instead of four.
*As Galvatron tosses the Matrix to Scourge:
**[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] have replaced the generic non-Constructicons that were there previously; they are also drawn as normal-scaled Decepticons.
**The Matrix is missing its handles.
*When Rodimus wakes and touches his forehead in the next scene, his face is partly purple.
*A few shots later (during the "Matrix, schmatrix..." lines), the depressions in Rodimus' shoulders are blue instead of white.
*Galvatron is missing the red squares on the tops of his shoulders in most shots.
*Wrong lasers:
**Cyclonus' gun fires a yellow laser. That's the Autobot color (it should be purple). It also uses a non-standard sound effect.
**Hot Rod carries a gray laser gun rather than the usual red rifle. It has a non-standard sound effect instead of Prime's rifle sound effect.
**In the battle scenes just before the Decepticons retreat, ''nobody'' has the standard Autobot or Decepticon laser sound effects.
[[File:Burden-hardest-to-bear-scourge-morphs.jpg|thumb|right|upright=2.2|It's an evolution revolution! or I'm your ice cream man, stop me when I'm passin' by!]]
*After he dispatches Galvatron and Cyclonus, Scourge transforms with one of the most cheatsy sequences in the whole series - he simply melts or morphs into his vehicle form.
*When Cyclonus helps Galvatron up from the cliffside, he speaks in mutated Scourge's voice.
*The sensei continues making aggressive fighting noises long after his student opponent has lost his weapon and retreated.
*Galvatron's ship is gray instead of purple.
*The first shot of Galvatron aboard his ship has the whole bottom half of his face in dark gray instead of just his chin
*Two of the hovercraft-mode Sweeps accompanying Scourge are drawn with the heads-sticking-up model.
*Confusing animation and editing makes it very unclear what's happening at the start of Scourge's assault. We're supposed to see a large outdoor video screen showing a character firing a laser gun; then a transport passing by on the street gets blown up by Scourge, making it seem like the movie character blew up the transport - but it all happens so fast there's no time to figure it out.
*Scourge's energy blasts are very poorly animated, often lacking their glow effect and sometimes failing to connect with their targets at all.
*Kup's cry of pain comes ''before'' Scourge actually blasts him.
*When Galvatron opens the airlock door, one shot has "AIR LO'''O'''K" written on it.
*The Matrix is in Scourge's chest, but later Hot Rod pulls it out of his stomach.
*As Hot Rod holds the Matrix, one shot has his arm pipes clipping through it.
*Hot Rod sticks the Matrix into his chest without opening a compartment for it.
*As Galvatron and Cyclonus fly Scourge away from the city, Galvatron is mouthing something, but there's no dialogue.
*In the last shot of the episode, Ultra Magnus is missing his shoulder missiles and Kup is missing the white part of his chest.
*The version of this episode on the [[Shout! Factory]] DVDs features a glitch with an unstable horizontal line appearing at the top of the picture throughout the episode. The error appears to be on the episode's master copy, as the version included on the [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]] DVDs has the picture slightly zoomed in order to avoid showing the offending line.

===Continuity errors===
*It's not clear what caused the Constructicons to separate and retreat; they seemed to be handling Broadside with ease up to that point.
*The humans who call out "Mayday! Mayday!" don't appear to have a radio on their ship.
*The wanton assault of the Aerialbots seems more likely to blow up the railroad tracks than actually blast Astrotrain off of them.
*Wildrider now has a very bad Southern accent, perhaps in response to his "dun blowed up real good" line.
*Galvatron says the Matrix eluded the Decepticons for year'''s''', but he had it for a while during the movie (which happened less than one year ago in the timeline).
*It's not really clear why Galvatron puts the Matrix in his cannon rather than his chest.
*Why didn't the ancient Autobots pop up when Galvatron had the Matrix during the movie? (one possible explanation: he never placed the Matrix inside himself in the movie, instead only wearing it on a chain.)
*Likewise, why does Scourge get all mutated when Galvatron didn't?
*We don't hear Optimus' voice during the "return the Matrix" chant.
*After Galvatron tells Scourge to get rid of the Matrix, the [[scene transition]] has two Decepticon logos, but the next scene is of the Autobots.
*Just before he quits the Autobots, Hot Rod states that "this war has been going on now for a few dozen millennia". Back in "[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]", we learned that the Third Cybertronian War started nine million years ago, which is about ''750'' dozen millennia... assuming, of course, that we want to take Hot Rod's pointedly off-handed remark as being based on historical accuracy, which is kind of a stretch for a guy who's at the end of his rope and sarcastically railing about "the known universe and its outlying suburbs".
*The Decepticon army is inexplicably small in the second half of the episode, consisting of just Predaking, a couple of Sweeps, and some Constructicons who come and go.
*Ozu injures Scourge (a giant metal robot, juiced up on Matrix steroids) with his sword.
*Scourge is portrayed as ultra-powerful early on, but is defeated by a ramming and three shots from Hot Rod's gun at the episode's end.

===Continuity notes===
[[File:Burdenhardest marissa finds rodimus.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|Spend $14.99 to get the same guy, just minus two lines on his face.]]
*Broadside appears in his more toy-based model, with a faceplate, smaller head and large separated optics. He's also shown to be ''huge'', in keeping with his aircraft carrier mode, something which other episodes often failed to convey.
*This episode is one of a handful that finds excuses to turn Rodimus back into Hot Rod, presumably since that toy needed to be plugged as well.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Bruticus can somehow tilt his back cannons forward and fire them over his shoulders.
**It seems that ''someone'' remembered the Stunticons' "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1|automatic forcefields]]", as Wildrider survives a head-on collision with Rodimus without a scratch, while Rodimus goes down in flames.
*When Galvatron inserts the Matrix into his cannon, he says "Now, [['Til all are one|all shall become one]], under Galvatron's rule!"
*After he rams Scourge, Hot Rod transforms in a manner similar to one of his transformations from the movie.
*This episode marks the last appearance of Springer, Broadside, Astrotrain, Devastator and Marissa Faireborn in US continuity.
*Astrotrain actually travels on the railroad his locomotive mode was designed for in this episode.
*The Ancient Autoboot "ghosts" emerging from the Matrix include:
**A [[generic]] character design that was previously seen in "[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2]]" and "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]". His colors have changed, though, and he dropped the antennas on the sides of his head he sported in "The Key to Vector Sigma".
**Optimus Prime (he'll be back next episode)
**A variety of other designs appear alongside him, none of which match either the leaders we saw back in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4|Five Faces of Darkness]]" or will see in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2]]". At least one is based on [[Internuncio|these guys]].
***The yellow, the red and the orange-and-blue Matrix ghosts' character models were reused in the Japanese [[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'' cartoon]] as various generic Autobots.
*While the episode order can vary, it's a little funny that the episode about Rodimus finally getting used to being leader of the Autobots was followed by the episode in which Optimus returns to replace him.

===Real-world references===
[[File:BurdenHardesttoBear MountFuji.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
[[File:BurdenHardestBear Sensei.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
[[File:BurdenHardestToBear Japanese PM.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"Ris is rery rad ror rusiness! I mean, uh, bad for rusiness-san! Bad-san for business-san! Yeah."]]
[[File:Burden-hardest-to-bear-imperial-palace.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Set in Japan (see also: "[[Kremzeek!]]"), the episode is replete with references to Japanese culture. We see a fishing boat (all wood, with hand-cast nets), a high speed bullet train passing by Mt. Fuji, a kendo dojo, a woman about to offer prayer at a Shinto shrine garden, and a surprisingly accurate rendition of the [[Wikipedia:Tokyo Imperial Palace|Tokyo Imperial Palace]] and its Seimon Ishibashi bridge, where Rodimus meets with the Prime Minister. We also see Rodimus get chewed out by government guys who are stereotypically worked up about robot battles being "very bad for business." And of course there's that metaphorical rising sun in the opening shot.
*The train driver calls in the incident with Astrotrain to "JNR Central", referring to [[wikipedia:Japanese National Railways|Japanese National Railways]] (which in the real world would be broken up and privatized only a year after this episode aired.) The specific line is called out as the [[wikipedia:Yamanote Line|Yamanote Line]], which... is an urban transit line entirely within Tokyo, and certainly doesn't pass by Mt. Fuji, but hey, points for trying! The train itself appears to be very loosely based on the [[wikipedia:0 Series Shinkansen|0 Series Shinkansen]] trainsets.
*The voice acting for several Japanese characters in this episode employs a very stereotypical Western view of Asian people and their pronunciation of English words.
*Though the concept and word are real, the Japanese word "Giri" (義理) does not actually carry the rather-negative connotations of "The burden hardest to bear" implied by Kup's mistranslation. Rather, "Giri" more accurately means "Responsibility/duty", which is a gladly accepted honor and virtue in Japanese culture rather than a painful annoyance. In the thematic/emotional context of this episode, "The ''duty'' hardest to bear" would have been a more fitting title. An even more appropriate word would have been ''Gimu'' (義務), meaning ''"obligation"'', as a ''gimu'' is something which '''must''' be done whether you wish to or not.
*The naming of Marissa's vehicle as a "spinner" presumably comes from the hovercar vehicles of the same name in ''Blade Runner''.
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**Scourge launches for Earth with the ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine burst noise.

===Trivia===
[[File:Burden-hardest-to-bear-galvatron-cannon.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|" 'Front Toward Enemy'? What does that mean?! ARE YOU THREATENING ME?!"]]
*This is one of the most well-illustrated episodes of season 3, with lots of deep, detailed shading and well-proportioned characters.
*The Japanese train drivers appear to be wearing... spacesuits?
*When Scourge starts mutating, at one point it looks like he's... [[Humanization|crying]]?
*This episode marks the first time in Transformers fiction that the word [[Slag (slang)|slag]] is used as an insult.
*Isn't it convenient that Scourge launches his attack on Earth in Japan, where the Autobots happen to be located?
*When Galvatron inserts the Matrix into his cannon and it fails to fire, he briefly looks directly ''into the barrel of his cannon'' before berating [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] and [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]].

*Those government spokesmen who complained about the fighting in the beginning must be ''pissed'' after all the destruction we see at the end!

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Die Last der Verantwortung'''" ("The Burden of Responsibility")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Omo Sugi ta Shimei'''" (重すぎた使命, "The Mission Too Heavy")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 11]], [[1987]]
:*When they recover the Matrix of Leadership, [[Issei Masamune|the Narrator]] misidentifies [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] and [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] as [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]]. Which is very strange because the [[Battlecharger]]s weren't sold at Japanese retail, but the Stunticons were.
:*A "[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]" segment unique to Japan was attached to this episode. It focuses on the many battles between [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. It replaces the original "Secret Files" segment which focused on the Decepticons.

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Jiān Fù Zhòngrèn'''" (肩负重任, "The Heavy Responsibility to Take")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Samaya tyajkaya nosha'''" (''Самая тяжкая ноша'', "The Heaviest Burden")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume 11: The Decepticon Possession ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-114.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

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[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

Tailwind (G1)

2016-03-03T02:51:19Z

Takeshi357:

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{{disambig2|the evil Decepticon Micromaster|his heroic alternate universe counterpart|Tailwind (SG)}}
:''Tailwind is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:G1Tailwind MTMTE.jpg|250px|thumb|Snatch this pebble from my hand and you will know you are ready.]]
Of the scheming junior members of the [[Air Strike Patrol]], '''Tailwind''' is the one most likely to seize control of the unit. This is because he knows how to keep his mouth shut, and take a short-term loss for long-term gain.<ref>''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' #7</ref>

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
{{noteukonly}}
''Tailwind and his patrolmates were the first Decepticon Micromasters to be created. [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] was able to trick the Patrol into fleeing with the aid of the deactivated bomb.'' {{storylink|A Small War!}}

[[File:Micromastercoats s.jpg|left|thumb|"Hey, it worked for those turtles!"]]
When Roadhandler became an overnight wrestling sensation on Earth, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] called in help to end the Autobot's growing public adulation, and an unknown Decepticon sent the Air Strike Patrol. {{storylink|The Interplanetary Wrestling Championship!}}

[[File:Tailwindreactorlinkage.jpg|thumb|Oh, sure, blame the only guy who's in color.]]
Unknown to Scorponok, the patrol's secret employer was [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], who then sent the team on a mission to [[MacDill Air Force Base]] to capture the [[B-204]] refueling plane. When the [[Autobot|Autobots]] inevitably arrived, the team contacted Scorponok to tell him that they were under attack. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} {{storylink|Skin Deep}} After a brief confrontation with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] - during which Tailwind told Optimus Prime where he could stuff his order to surrender - and the arrival of Scorponok's Decepticons, the Air Strike Patrol fled, their mission completed. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}}

''Tailwind, Nightflight, and Storm Cloud came to the aid of their patrolmate Whisper, who had become a private assassin, when he was chased into an Earthen jungle by the Autobot [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]]. The outcome of this battle is unknown.'' {{storylink|The Greatest Gift of All!}}

The Air Strike Patrol then toured the southern United States, finally attacking an oil refinery. This was the same oil refinery where [[Dynamo|Hector Dialonzo]], a human with extraordinary powers, was working, and he single-handedly destroyed the Air Strike Patrol, with Tailwind the first to go offline. {{storylink|The Human Factor!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
The Air Strike Patrol took [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s side in the 1991 Decepticon Civil War against factions led by [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Near the end of that war, the Patrol chased Scorponok, alone, into a human settlement, where Tailwind jostled with Nightflight over who would get to kill the enemy leader. Scorponok maneuvered a team of Autobots into combatting the Patrol for him, enabling Scorponok to escape. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
As the Decepticons arrived on Earth, Tailwind and the Air Strike Patrol were among the first to engage their Autobot enemies. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When a dimension bridge opened up connecting several points in time and space, the Autobots and Decepticons fought over control of the bridge. The Air Strike Patrol engaged the Autobot [[Pretender]], [[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
Tailwind was in [[Little Iacon]], talking to [[Tote]]. {{storylink|The Gray Race}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:SpotlightHardhead-CaughtInAVortex.jpg|thumb|left]]
Tailwind was one of the many Micromasters created on [[Gorlam Prime]] through the machinations of [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. He was part of a flight that shot at [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}

[[File:BeforeAndAfter-DriftTailwindTentakil.jpg|thumb|right]]
Another Tailwind was a full sized Decepticon in a group that conquered [[Temptoria]] following the end of the war. When the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' arrived looking for the [[Circle of Light]], Tailwind found himself on the wrong end of [[Drift (G1)|Drift]]'s swords. {{storylink|Before & After}}
{{-}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
When [[Lio Convoy (BWII)|Lio Convoy]] exposed the truth of the [[Games]] and the [[Builder of Cybertron|Builders]]' manipulation of the [[Maximal]]s and the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], [[Sunrunner]] and Tailwind were sent to strike the renegade Maximal down, but failed. {{storylink|Broken Windshields}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
[[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and the Air Strike Patrol conquered [[Garrus-9]], though their triumph was shortlived as the [[Wrecker]]s arrived a bit later and liberated it. {{storylink|The Wreckers}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:G1-Zone-toy Tailwind.jpg|thumb|300px|Storm Cloud stole my ''[[Storm Cloud (G1)#Toys|Universe]]'' comeback, the git]]
*'''Air Strike Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, [[1989]])

:Tailwind transforms into a blue A-10 Thunderbolt II ground-strike plane. He was only available as part of four-pack with his teammates [[Nightflight (G1)|Nightflight]], [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]] and [[Whisper (G1)|Whisper]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed to make [[Hot House]].

:In Japan, his toy was released without alteration as the [[Autobot]] [[Windrim]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Tailwind/tailwind.htm More information on Tailwind at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

==Notes==
*Tailwind is "gang molded" with his teammate Nightflight and thus the two share plastic colors.

[[File:ROTF_Simmonsprops_Tailwind.jpg|thumb|300px]]
*Tailwind was evidently part of [[Seymour Simmons]]' props in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', as it was included in an auction (held on October 8 & 9, 2009 held by Profiles in History) of several items that Simmons carried around throughout the movie.

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Derive''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Atlas'''

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Builders]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Gorlam Prime]]
[[Category:Micromasters]]

Whisper (G1)

2016-03-02T18:45:20Z

Takeshi357: /* Marvel The Transformers comics */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Whisper}}
:''Whisper is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:G1Whisper MTMTE.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|TIGER GENOCIDE!]]
'''Whisper''' is currently the leader of the [[Air Strike Patrol]], a position he holds by being braver than [[Nightflight (G1)|Nightflight]], smarter than [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]], and bolder than [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]]. In fact, if he wasn't completely despicable, he'd probably make a good Autobot. Pity [[Whisper (Zone)|the position's taken]].<ref>''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' #7</ref>

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
{{noteukonly}}
''Whisper and his patrolmates were the first Decepticon Micromasters to be created. [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] was able to trick the Patrol into fleeing with the aid of the deactivated bomb.'' {{storylink|A Small War!}}

[[File:Micromastercoats s.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"Hey, it worked for those turtles!"]]
When Roadhandler became an overnight wrestling sensation on Earth, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] called in help to end the Autobot's growing public adulation, and an unknown Decepticon sent the Air Strike Patrol. Whisper got to threaten physical harm against small children to force Roadhandler to take a dive against [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]]. {{storylink|The Interplanetary Wrestling Championship!}}

Unknown to Scorponok, the patrol's secret employer was [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], who then sent the team on a mission to [[MacDill Air Force Base]] to capture the [[B-204]] refueling plane. When the [[Autobot]]s inevitably arrived, the team contacted Scorponok to tell him that they were under attack. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} {{storylink|Skin Deep}} After a brief confrontation with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the arrival of Scorponok's Decepticons, the Air Strike Patrol fled, their mission completed. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}}

''They appear to have gone AWOL from the Decepticons after this, as Whisper was next seen as a private assassin with an open-ended contract to kill key Autobots. This in turn made Whisper a target of the Autobot [[Rescue Patrol (G1)|Rescue Patrol]], who damaged his wings and chased him into an Earthen forest. His patrolmates came to his aid, and the Rescue Patrol were called back by Optimus to stop the forest being destroyed. {{storylink|The Greatest Gift of All!}}''

Whisper led his team across the southern United States, finally attacking an oil refinery. This was the same oil refinery where [[Dynamo|Hector Dialonzo]], a human with extraordinary powers, was working, and he single-handedly destroyed the Air Strike Patrol. Whisper was the last to fall, quickly realising Hector's power and deciding to threaten workers to get him to back off. This just pissed Hector off and made him attack anyway! {{storylink|The Human Factor!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
In an alternate timeline, the Air Strike Patrol took [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s side in a Decepticon Civil War against factions led by Scorponok and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. They had a chance to kill a beaten Scorponok in 1991 but were stopped by the Autobots, as their battle was destroying a human city. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
As the Decepticons arrived on Earth, Whisper and the Air Strike Patrol were among the first to engage their Autobot enemies. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}

When a dimension bridge opened up connecting several points in time and space, the Autobots and Decepticons fought over control of the bridge. The Air Strike Patrol engaged the Autobot [[Pretender]], [[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Spotlight Nightbeat Tailspin Whisper Greaser.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.7]]
Whisper was one of the legions of [[Dead Universe]] Micromasters who pursued [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] on [[Gorlam Prime]]. He survived to confront Hardhead with the [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]-controlled Nightbeat in the planet's subterranean tunnels, but failed to prevent the Autobot from escaping into the Dead Universe. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}
{{--}}

==Commercial appearances==
When Zarak Maximus attempted to stomp Micropolis, Whisper was among innumerable Autobot and Decepticon Micromasters that swarmed and toppled the colossus. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Micromaster transports|Micromaster transports commercial}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
[[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and the Air Strike Patrol conquered [[Garrus-9]], though their triumph was short-lived as the [[Wrecker]]s arrived a bit later and liberated it. {{storylink|The Wreckers}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:G1-Zone-toy Whisper.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Silencio! *shush*]]
* '''Air Strike Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, 1989)

:Whisper transforms into a black Stealth fighter jet loosely based on the apocryphal "F-19" design. He was available only as part of a 4-bot Patrol with his teammates [[Nightflight (G1)|Nightflight]], [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]], and [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]].

:This toy was sold in Japan without changes as the Autobot [[Whisper (Zone)|Whisper]] from ''[[Transformers: Zone (toyline)|Zone]]''. It was [[redeco]]ed to make [[Groundshaker]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Whisper/whisper.htm More information on Whisper at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/decepticon/1989/instr_air_strike_patrol.jpg Instructions for the Air Strike Patrol at Botchthecrab.com]''

{{--}}

==Notes==
*Whisper is gang molded with his teammate Storm Cloud and they share plastic colors.
*Whisper's vehicle mode appears to have been directly "inspired" by a [http://www.revell.com/germany/aircraft/80-4051.html#.VSnK9BFFDIU 1988 Revell model kit] of the proposed F-19 Stealth Fighter.

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Soupir''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Ombra'''

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Assassins]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Gorlam Prime]]
[[Category:Micromasters]]

Talk:Minerva (human)

2016-02-23T08:51:10Z

Takeshi357:

==Heritage==
According to the additional character notes included with the toys, Minerva is French (well, born in France), not American. Was this changed for the show? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 21:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:No, according to the show, her mother is French, and her dad's from [[Mont Porte]]. (Man, Masterforce is really unattended to on the wiki. I should probably DO something about that after the episodes...) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]]

==Old Stuff==
Well that really depends Siph- is this article abotu Minerva the person, or is it about Minerga-the-Transformer-who-became-a-seperate-character-after-Masterforce?

I assumed these articles were human-first, and woudl be including a sub-article about their Transectors. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I kind of agree. I would think that this was supposed to be an article about the human, Minerva, who acquires a Transtector, and thus the primary picture should be of her as a human. Similarly I would expect the [[Ginrai]] article to start with a picture of the human Ginrai. I would be fine with having two pictures up there, or a single image that is split to to show them both.

(Wait a second... Transtector or Transector? I always thought it had a 't' in the middle there?)

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

==Undies==
Is a mainpic featuring a peek at a 15 year old's underwear the best the wiki can do? It's a nice image otherwise though, so is there maybe a clean version in existence or can anyone edit it? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:01, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
: You seem really surprised that Masterforce treats its 15-year-old girl as a sexual object for some reason. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:48, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
::No, I'm surprised the wiki does. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:53, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm not sure that using Takara's own art of Minerva on our page collecting official things about Minerva counts as the wiki sexualizing a character. That's been done for us already. There may be less sexist and troubling images of Minerva out there, but they'd be less ''accurate''. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:00, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
::::There are no mainpic-worthy images of her that don't have her underwear showing? --[[Special:Contributions/81.164.210.89|81.164.210.89]] 13:37, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::I just did a quick Google search; be grateful it's only her underwear. Seriously, if anyone wants to filter the hentai out there for a more suitable pic be my guest. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 13:46, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
::::::It's a bust anyway. If there's a problem, cropping 70 pixels off the bottom of the image does no significant harm to the sense of it (since the page text doesn't lead me to believe "flashes her knickers" is a core part of her character...) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 14:08, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Frankly, I'm adverse to censoring artwork. That's a bad precedent, and certainly not one I'd start over a pair of underwear. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

::::Aren't you the one who said "[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Dreadwing_%28Prime%29&diff=prev&oldid=750654 full body shots preferred for main image]". This is a bust, not a full-body shot of EITHER her human or transtector bodies.
::::[Wouldn't the best mainpic be a shot of her in Headmaster costume, anyway, rather than civvies/robot?] - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 14:08, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::True. Something with legs would be nice. But, again, preferably not a screencap. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

==Mail-in figure==
Considering no one has apparently seen the box for this thing, I'm assuming "Minerva Night Beat" is just a placeholder name for the toy until someone can produce an actual box to get the name off of? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 03:51, 23 February 2016 (EST)

User talk:Takeshi357

2016-02-22T22:49:26Z

Takeshi357:

==Blanking your talk page==
Don't do that. See [[Transformers Wiki: User page]] for details. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 07:46, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:Yeah, god forbid I actually try to engage a fucking discussion before making edits. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 08:50, 16 February 2016 (EST)

Talk:The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5

2016-02-21T23:05:58Z

Takeshi357: Created page with "Error: Predaking (or Rampage anyway) appears to have vehicle mode kibble on page 8? ~~~~"

Error: Predaking (or Rampage anyway) appears to have vehicle mode kibble on page 8? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 18:05, 21 February 2016 (EST)

Only Human

2016-02-17T00:19:39Z

Takeshi357: /* Trivia */

{{disambig2|the cartoon episode|the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Legends]]'' event|Only Human (Legends)}}
{{episode|
|series=G1toon
|ep=88
|series2=2010
|ep2=22
|prev2=The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)
|next2=Money Is Everything (episode)
|image=Autobot synthoids.jpg
|caption=
|title="Only Human"
|production code=700-108
|airdate=[[November 13]], 1986
|written by=[[Susan K. Williams]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[AKOM]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''When several Autobots interfere with his "business", a powerful crime lord has their minds placed into synthoid bodies, with the help of the strangely familiar "Old Snake".'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:CC-OldSnake01.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|Doing a crossover... in style!]]

As buildings explode across the futuristic cityscape of [[New York City]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] attempts to save as many people as he can. At the docks, crime lord [[Victor Drath]]'s men, led by [[Dutch (G1)|Dutch]], attempt to steal a canister of [[newtronium]]. [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] stop them; however, Dutch shoots the canister which explodes in Rodimus's hands, allowing the criminals to escape in their flying car.

Tired of the [[Autobot]]s interfering with his operations, Drath contacts the mysterious [[Old Snake]] who apparently ran some kind of terrorist organization in the past. Drath purchases Old Snake's assistance and technology, setting up a laboratory at his home. Lured to the laboratory, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] are trapped and their minds transferred into newly created [[synthoid]] human bodies. While the human [[Autobot]]s are taken away to be disposed at the junk yard, Snake suggests that Drath can make use of the Autobots' former robot bodies.

[[File:ArceeSpringerHuman.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"Hey Arcee, biologically we can...you know." "What? Huh?" "Nevermind."]]

The four Autobots manage to escape from the crusher in the junk yard before they're pulverised. They find clothing in a nearby building and swiftly realize what has happened. They split up—Magnus and Arcee decide to attempt to contact [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] while Rodimus and Springer go after Drath. Once the pair reaches Drath's house, Rodimus attempts to draw the guards away, but is wounded. He is given refuge by Drath's girlfriend [[Michelle]]. Springer spots Drath's men taking the Autobots' robot bodies for a test drive, taking the opportunity to rob a jewellery store. He is offers to help operate his old body, claiming that he has experience with heavy machinery, and gains the thugs' confidence.

Meanwhile Arcee and Ultra Magnus are having no luck contacting the police chief they'd worked with after the earlier bombings. They notice a nearby warehouse is owned by Drath and break in, discovering it's full of weapons. Unfortunately Arcee trips a silent alarm, and they're interrupted by thugs driving their old bodies. Magnus threatens them with a grenade, giving Arcee time to escape on a stolen motorcycle, but he is captured by Dutch a short time later.

[[File:OnlyHuman Rodimus Michelle breakfast.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|- Coffee in bed, sir? - Yeah, caffeine is ''very'' bad, honey!]]

Rodimus shares breakfast with Michelle, who confides that she knows who he is, but will help him get into Drath's house. Arcee makes it to Autobot City, but the human security guards don't believe her story and instead place her in detention. Rodimus and Michelle enter Drath's home... only for Drath's men to spring the trap which Michelle has lured him into. Drath tells Rodimus that Snake has come up with a new plan — load the Autobots' robot bodies with explosives and use them to blow up Autobot City. Springer discovers the plan as well, when he drives his robot body to pick up the explosives. He and Ultra Magnus liberate both his old body, though it is damaged in the escape. The three remaining Autobot forms are dispatched for Autobot City.

[[File:OnlyHuman Thugs in Rodimus.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb]]

Rodimus manages to get free of the goons and take down Drath himself. Drath gloats that Autobot City is still doomed. Indeed, Drath's thugs are nearing the city in the three purloined Autobot forms. Springer and Ultra Magnus fly Springer's robot form to catch up with the other three Autobots en route to Metroplex. Knowing that the Autobots in the city won't realize three Trojan horses are coming until it's too late, Ultra Magnus tells Springer to attack the city himself. Their firing on [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] alerts the inhabitants, and [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] has time to activate the city’s defenses and waylay the oncoming Autobots.

Later, after the Autobots have put together the pieces, [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] rigs the equipment at Drath's former hideout and transfers Rodimus Prime and the other's minds back to their rightful place. When asked about their adventure, Rodimus gives extra consideration to Michelle as she's led away along with Drath's other men. Meanwhile, safely away, Old Snake muses to himself how they just don't make terrorists like they used to. He also tries to yell out the rallying cry of his former organization but breaks down into coughing, so it's absolutely impossible to tell what group he used to run.
{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters|c1=
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (2)
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (3)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (4)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] (5)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (10)
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] (11)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (12)
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] (13)

|c3=
*[[Dutch (G1)|Dutch]] (1)
*[[Turan|Chief Turan]] (6)
*[[Victor Drath]] (7)
*[[Michelle]] (8)
*[[Old Snake]] (9)
*Rodimus Prime (5)
*Ultra Magnus (4)
*Springer (2)
*Arcee (3)
}}

==Quotes==
"We will deal with the Autobots as we would any other impediment to business." 
"Yer gonna ICE them robots?!"
:—'''Victor Drath''' and '''Dutch''' talk business

"Yer 'trash' got up an' took a hike before I could squash 'em!"
:—'''Junkyard goon'''

'''Victor Drath:''' Does that technology still exist, Snake? Is it for sale? 
'''"Old Snake":''' This is the world, Mr. Drath. ''Everything'' is for sale. 
:—Often from toy companies!

"The Path to True Humanity! Only $4.95, tax deductible!" 
''[Springer shoves him aside]'' 
"Sorry, pal, I'm a ''robot'' at heart. ...Terrific. I already need a shave."
:—'''Street proselytizer''' and humanized '''Springer'''

'''Springer''': Need a hand? I, uh...operate heavy equipment. 
'''Goon #1''': Uh...yeah. 
'''Goon #2''': But dere's only room for ''two'' in here! 
''[#1 boots #2 out the hatch]'' 
'''Goon #1''': Yeah! Yer right!
:—Springer gets a lift from his own body.

"Don't think for a moment that I haven't the nerve to use this—I ''have!''"
:—Even humanized, '''Ultra Magnus''' is a badass.

"What's this?" 
"It's called breakfast, dummy." 
"Mph. Smells better than it tastes."
:—Humanized '''Rodimus''' discovers coffee, courtesy of '''Michelle'''

"Snake pointed out to me a problem with eliminating only the four of you...namely, an entire city of Autobots who might be tempted to vengeance. I believe in solutions, not problems. You can watch the destruction of Metroplex before you die."
:—'''Victor Drath''' rubs Rodimus's nose in it.

[[File:CC-OldSnake02.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1| ]]
"Well, did you enjoy your sojourn, Rodimus?" 
"Maybe a little ''too'' much, Perceptor."
:—'''Perceptor''' innocently asks a very loaded question of '''Rodimus''', as the camera pointedly zooms in on Michelle.

"Poor Mr. Drath. Not quite smart enough, were you? They simply don't make terrorists like they ''used'' to! COOOOOBRA-ha-*hackcoughcoughcough*"
:—"'''Old Snake'''" gets away scot-free.

==Notes==
[[File:OnlyHumanlineup.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Ultra Magnus didn't want to admit he wanted the pink overalls.]]
[[File:Only Human Rodimus (synthoid) breaks door.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Rodimus the Terminator.]]
[[File:Michelle.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.]]
In general, this episode is ''really'' rushed, storywise. Scenes are raced through at a pretty breakneck pace, and on the whole, there's a tremendous sense of the episode having to hold back from actually ''doing'' anything with the potential-laden concept of the Autobots becoming human. Many of the ideas in the episode only seem half-developed, and what few subtleties do manage to break through the constant hurtle towards the final scene are often blunted by the complete lack of even just a reflective second or two to let them sink in; the final few minutes of the episode in particular are a collection of brief, perfunctory, checklist-ticking scenes surrounded by noisy [[scene transition]]s that don't even last 30 seconds each. The episode really cries out to be a two-parter, which is a real shame, since the annotations for the episode included amongst the original documentation featured on [[Metrodome]]'s DVDs suggest that the production staff were ''really'' excited and enthusiastic about it.

* While not an error, since the reason for it is clear enough, it is a fun coincidence that once human, our four heroes find overalls to wear that perfectly match their former bodies' color schemes. It was also convenient for the new synthoid bodies to form complete with tee shirts and pants. This is a children’s show, you know.
* The humanized Autobots' synthoid bodies are much stronger than humans are. For example, during their escape from the junkyard, synthoid Rodimus is able to break through padlocked metal doors, an impossible feat for a human. In another example, humanized Ultra Magnus and Arcee push a container which is taller and heavier than they are and jump on it to penetrate into Drath's warehouse.
* Michelle’s motivation is a little murky. She seems genuinely upset when the Autobots are supposedly killed by Drath, and later she saves Rodimus from his pursuers—yet later, she happily turns him over to Drath. Was she actually attracted to Rodimus and changed her mind, or was she just luring him into a trap all along? If she was working for Drath from the get-go, why didn’t she just let his men capture him when they asked for him earlier? It couldn’t have been because she wanted to snuggle with Rodimus that night, could it? This is a children’s show, you know.
* Also, the Autobots adapt to being human REALLY easily. Other than Springer needing a shave, there’s very little attention paid to the new problems with suddenly being biological. Shouldn’t the Autobots have problems understanding such concepts as going to the bathroom or breathing? Then again, that stuff veers into uncomfortable territory. This is a children’s show after all.
* In hindsight, just what was Victor Drath’s plan with the Autobots? He obviously has no trouble capturing the Autobots on his own, but purchased the synthoid equipment and went through all the trouble to set it up anyway to transfer the Autobots' minds into human bodies which he would simply dispose of. He also is going to take their former robot bodies and also simply dispose of them. It’s Ol’ Snake that gives him the idea actually to use the robot bodies. Why couldn’t he just capture the Autobots and simply dispose of them intact? Then again, maybe that’s overthinking it. This is a...well, you know.

===Animation or technical glitches===
* True to form, AKOM used a lot of outdated animation models in this episode. Most notable is Arcee's, especially since her shoulder-thingies change orientation and her head changes shape several times. (The sub-par animation makes her look even worse.)
* AKOM also used their standard wrong color models:
** The inside Ultra Magnus's mouth is often blue.
** Springer's face and hands are lime green instead of gray.
* Throughout their time as piloted mecha, the Autobots' bodies are ''huge''.
* The glow effect from the fire engine's flashing light isn't aligned with the light itself.
* During the rescue at the start, Springer, in helicopter mode, somehow catches a falling human on his nose, despite the fact the human would have to pass through his spinning rotors. A few shots later, his arms separate from his helicopter body without the transformation sound effect.
** He extends his arms to rescue two trapped humans, but folds them away again before the explosion that knocks him down has even started.
* As the trapped couple watches Springer crash, they're floating slightly above the ledge they're supposed to be sitting on.
* At the docks, Magnus transforms to his full robot mode from just his cab, leaving his trailer sitting behind him!
** Rodimus does the same thing, though the cartoon was less consistent on whether or not his trailer is a separate component.
* As he runs up to the waterfront, Rodimus' spoiler is all-yellow when it should be orange in the middle. This error occurs throughout the episode.
* Old Snake wasn't "pacing," as his subordinate said. When Drath finds him, he appears to be sitting on a curb.
* Old Snake's yellow fingers are inconsistently detailed; sometimes having a scaly texture and sometimes simply being smooth.
* "Still amused, Springer?" - Ultra Magnus's mouth doesn't move. Neither does Rodimus for his subsequent "This way!" line.
* Magnus ''physically shrinks'' as the mind-transfer helmet thing comes down onto his head. He's also got a lot of miscolored bits - gray cheekguards that should be blue, red torso-top that should be blue, and missile-launcher fronts that are red instead of white.
* The commercial bumpers have a couple extra seconds' worth of music.
* "As the humanized Autobots plan their first move, Rodimus is drawn mouthing Magnus's lines.
* Despite being human, there are occasions when the Autobots' voices are still synthesized to sound robotic.
* "And risk our both getting caught?" - Rodimus' mouth isn't moving.
* When Old Snake first has the Autobots transform, Rodimus is missing his trailer (so he looks like Hot Rod).
* When human Springer offers to pilot his robot form, the guy saying there's only room for two is on the right, then the shot changes and he's on the left.
* When human Springer climbs into his robot form, his crotch clips over a control rod.
* Drath throws open a window shade, dazzling Rodimus with the sunlight - but it's shown as though some sort of laser rays are striking him. They even get a sound effect. Haven't the animators ever seen sunlight before?
* As the vehicle modes of Springer and Rodimus pull up to Drath's warehouse, Rodimus is missing his trailer (so he looks like Hot Rod). It reappears and disappears again during the scene.
* When Springer grabs the map of Autobot City (which isn't much of a map), his glove is brown, but the next shot shows it (correctly) in white.
* As Springer and Magnus escape, Springer's body converts from car to helicopter without the transforming sound, or even any visible transformation sequence.
* Drath sees a video of Springer escaping and crashing... but doesn't react to anything till the video randomly changes to the other Autobots still sitting outside the warehouse.
* After Rodimus kicks Drath and prepares to slug him:
** Rodimus mouths Drath's "Go ahead" line.
** The display shows Magnus' cab with blue on top instead of all-white, and Rodimus's vehicle form without his trailer.
** And in today's episode of Improbable Viewpoints, how ''does'' Drath get that traveling head-on view of the three Autobots driving down the road?
* When Blaster sees the first three Autobots approaching Autobot City, Springer is shown instead of Arcee.
* Blaster's voice is way over synthesized.
* Arcee mouths part of Blaster's dialogue in her cell.
* Blaster has one big switch instead of three individual ones in a few shots.
* Perceptor is shown cheering for the returning Autobots. His chest is red instead of white, and his Autobot logo is framed in black instead of white (throughout the episode). Next to him, Grimlock's chest is white instead of gold.
** The next shot shows Kup, Perceptor and Grimlock in a much smaller opening than they were in previously.
* When Magnus presses the firing button, the button's glow effect is layered in front of his finger.
* As Blaster observes Springer opening fire on Autobot City, the laser beams are coming right out of the screen.
* Sudden starry night:
** Springer encounters the street proselytizer by daylight... but once he encounters Drath's goons just a moment later, the rest of the scene happens in the nighttime.
** Night sky behind a shot of some guns and turrets as Autobot City finishes transforming.
** And again as Springer draws the Autobots' fire toward the other non-Autobots.
* Blaster and another Autobot are shown standing on the transformed city; Blaster was at his control station like two seconds ago.
** Also, what happened to all those big servos and switches that had to be activated last time? Here, Blaster just pushes one button and the whole city transforms.
* Springer is briefly layered in front of Rodimus Prime's vehicle mode as he draws the Autobots' fire.
* Springer crashes on a concrete road, then is shown on a dirt path leading to Autobot City.
* Magnus is inexplicably in truck mode when the Autobots are about to be restored.
* Perceptor vanishes from the scene as the Autobots leave Drath's house, replaced by Magnus and Springer.
* As the Autobots leave Drath's house, a doorway (with outer space behind it) is seen ''behind'' them. They were in an enclosed room.

===Continuity errors===
* Where is the Matrix during all this body-switching anyway?
* It's a bit of a stretch that Michelle was able to recognize Rodimus "by the look in his eyes" - not only has he gone from being a robot to being a human, she only saw him operational for a few seconds! (Things like him saying "Circuits shorted" and not recognizing coffee might be bigger hints.)

===Continuity notes===
[[File:OldSnakeYellowFingers1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Or maybe Old Snake was eating Cheet-os and the animators miscolored his fingers.]]
*[[Synthoid]]s originally appeared in the ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero]]'' episodes "The Synthoid Conspiracy" and "There's No Place Like Springfield".
*Throughout the episode, Old Snake's fingers, visible through his torn-up gloves, are colored yellow and occasionally detailed with scales. This fits in with the timeline of the ''G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero'' animated series, as in ''G.I. Joe: The Movie'', Cobra Commander was mutated into a yellow-scaled snake-man and then an actual cobra. He was eventually restored to his yellow-scaled snake-man form in the ''G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero'' episode "Operation: Dragonfire, Day 2", though that episode aired three years ''after'' this one. Regardless, hey, with this episode taking place in "the future", that means the continuity works out!
* This episode, along with "[[Forever Is a Long Time Coming (episode)|Forever Is a Long Time Coming]]" and "[[Madman's Paradise]]", is one of the few episodes to not feature Decepticons. In fact, this episode marks the only time in the G1 cartoon where all of the antagonists are human (or [[Cobra Commander|humanoid]]). Of course, they still get the Decepticon logo during the scene transitions.
* Gadgets and powers:
** Springer can deploy his arms while still in helicopter mode.
* More than most, this episode plays up the "futuristic" aspect of the show's 2006 setting, with flying cars, crazy looking non-flying cars with sci-fi engine sounds, humans with laser guns, and New York's crazy huge Jetsons buildings.
* It also paints a picture of a close alliance between the humans and the Autobots. The Autobots are working directly with NYPD, and have a load of humans helping to staff Autobot City (something not seen in any other episode.)
* This episode might answer a question [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] asked at the end of the Season 2 episode "[[Autobot Spike]]" about what would happen if an Autobot's mind were placed in a human's body.

===Real world references===
[[File:OnlyHuman New York opening cityscape.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|[[New Cybertron]] redux? ]]
*Though never called out by name, the episode is set in and around a futuristic [[New York City]]. Badly drawn versions of the Empire State Building and the World Trade Center towers can be glimpsed in the opening shot - absolutely ''dwarfed'' by the crazy future buildings behind them - and "NYPD" markings on the first police hovercar can also be glimpsed.
* This episode uses a number of common cartoon sound effects for helicopter rotors and laser beams that had not been heard on ''Transformers'' before... but which were very common on its contemporary competitor, ''[[GoBots (franchise)#Cartoon|Challenge of the GoBots]]''.
* ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
** The C-3PO "NO!" laser effect is used as the Rodimus-mecha blasts Springer, and again for all the shots coming from Autobot City.

===Trivia===
* Rodimus totally gets some in this episode. Wow.
* This episode was lampooned at [[BotCon 2005]]'s [[MSTF]] presentation, as part of a "theme show" where all of the ''Transformers'' episodes featured had (sometimes really tenuous) ties to ''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]''. Because this was the first year of [[Fun Publications]]' take on BotCon, and they run the Joe convention, you see.
*For some reason, human Arcee doesn't look like Princess Leia. Even her hair is different.
*Human Rodimus and Human Springer look a lot like their respective voice actors, [[Dick Gautier]] and [[Neil Ross]]. Seriously, go look at the actors' pictures and compare.
*Although probably unintentional, the human pilot of Ultra Magnus sits right about where the Diaclone pilot would on the toy.
*Human Arcee rides a motorcycle in this episode. She turns ''into'' one in [[Arcee (Energon)|several]] [[Arcee (Movie)|other]] [[Arcee (SG)|continuity]] [[Arcee (WFC)|families]].
* After Dutch and company escape, there's no background music for them, or for Magnus and Rodimus as they climb out of the water - one of the ''very'' few moments of silence in the show. A second, shorter gap happens as Dutch proposes robbing the jewelry store.

===Foreign localization===
[[File:OnlyHumanJap1.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Someone put a hat on that football.]]

'''German'''
:*''Title:'' '''Nur ein Mensch''' (''Only Human'')
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' 人間トランスフォーマー (''Ningen Transformer'', "Human Transformers")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[May 7]], [[1987]]
::*[[Ryōichi Tanaka]], voice of Cobra Commander in the Japanese dub of ''G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero'', reprises the role for Old Snake.
::*In the Japanese dub of ''G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero'', the [[Cobra]] battlecry is "Co-Co-Cobraaa!" rather than just plain ole "Cobraaa!" As such, Old Snake's battlecry in the closing scene is appropriately localized (though he still bursts into a coughing fit).
::*'''Cut:''' The scene where the informant tells Victor Drath that Old Snake is down the street pacing back and forth, then gets punched in the face as payment, was cut for time.
::*This episode was very heavily promoted in the pages of ''[[TV Magazine]]'', featuring two pieces of unique promotional art by [[Ban Magami]] across two separate issues (a rarity for episode promos). Oddly, neither promo seemed to accurately describe the contents of the episode. The May 1987 issue boasted a "special news" emblem, indicating its importance over other episodes promoted that issue. The blurb described the episode, then tantalized children with the reveal that Cobra Commander, "the archenemy of [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Grant]] and [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]", would be leading his [[Cobra]] army in a fight against the Autobots. The June 1987 issue continued this misinformation campaign, even going so far as to feature a full-page promo of the episode with artwork depicting "Old Snake" ominously leading a number of Cobra [[Rattler]]s and F.A.N.G.s. The campaign was either deliberately misinformative, or Magami was working from outdated story summaries (a similar screw-up appeared in his promo artwork for "[[Starscream's Ghost]]").

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1992 — ''Transformers'' — Only Human ([[Tempo Video|Tempo Kids Club]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-108.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]
[[Category:MSTF]]

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Talk:Metalhawk (G1)

2016-02-16T13:46:14Z

Takeshi357:

So should we genericize this guy's intro paragraph? He's been lots of different things in lots of different continuities. Or is his original portrayal Super Big Enough (like Galvatron being Megatron and created from Unicron) that it's important to keep? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:56, 7 January 2012 (EST)
:Well I'll tell ya, the reason I went with that approach for his intro paragraph, and did the same for the other Masterforce Pretenders, is because they shared the same backstory across their anime and manga portrayals, and putting it into the intro saved typing out identical stuff across two different sections (and also because this backstory was part of their original Japanese pack-in profile cards, so seemed like core stuff for the characters). With Metalhawk's expansion to numerous other pieces of fiction since, though, it does seem to make more sense to genericize the intro and cover his Japanese backstory twice-over in the anime and manga sections. I don't think the resultant intro will be terribly interesting, though, given his personality is "good and brave and sword." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:29, 7 January 2012 (EST)
::I think we could keep "Autobot Pretender Commander" without any problem. He's that in both the original materials and in Classics. It's just, uh, sometimes he dies before he gets to be a Pretender. ....yeah. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:10, 7 January 2012 (EST)
:I think original Metalhawk, a main character in a franchise, is more important than some comics with a much smaller audience, to be honest. People are always going to think of him as That Original Pretender Guy From Masterforce. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:37, 7 January 2012 (EST)

*''Spanish:'' '''Hook''' (America)
W-wait, what? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 07:00, 15 February 2016 (EST)
:I've fixed the formatting on that entry, though I do wonder if someone misheard "Hawk". --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:31, 15 February 2016 (EST)
::That formatting is terrible then! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:46, 15 February 2016 (EST)
:::It makes sense to me? (Language)-(name)-(region or other condition). Keeps all of the names in a language together and is easier to skim through if you're looking for a specific language. (I don't know what's confusing Takeshi here, and I really don't care.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:53, 15 February 2016 (EST)
::::The item directly above it is <language>: <phonetic representation of name> (<name in original alphabet>, <translation of name>). It makes the list look inconsistently formatted. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:08, 15 February 2016 (EST)
:::::<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Lots of things go into those parentheses. [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Foreign names|Example.]] I think it looks better than, like, splitting up the names to "Brazilian Portuguese comic:", "Chinese Mandarin:", or whatever. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2016 (EST)
::::That just raises more questions, like why does a Japanese character have a Spanish name in America. Was the Botcon release bilingual? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 07:04, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:::::The note is using America in the older sense of the entirety of the New World. It should probably be changed to Latin America. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:25, 16 February 2016 (EST)
::::::That makes more sense. But even then I'm inclined to agree it's probably a mishearing of "Hawk". [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 08:46, 16 February 2016 (EST)

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Talk:Nightmare Planet

2016-02-16T12:06:11Z

Takeshi357:

Is the lizard monster wearing a dotted Tarzan outfit who attacks Ultra Magnus ''supposed'' look like the Gorn from Star Trek? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 07:06, 16 February 2016 (EST)

== Music ==

What new music was there? After watching Season 3, all I could identify as "new" was from the Movie. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 12:34, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:Some of the music draws from the musical motifs of DiCola's score, but it's not ''actually'' the movie's score; some of it was apparently composed by [[Robert J. Walsh]] for the G.I. Joe movie. And either way, this is the first episode of the third season to actually employ any of it, with all preceding episodes using the Seasons 1-2 bgms. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:42, 7 March 2010 (EST)
::Is there a list anywhere of what episodes had the new music? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 13:25, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:::Everything from "Nightmare Planet" onwards, except, oddly, for "Fight or Flee". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 7 March 2010 (EST)
::::This is by production order, right? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:::::Yess'm. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:05, 7 March 2010 (EST)

What's the issue with my little contribution? It's funny AND it makes sense! What do you have against Springer riding Jesus-Lion?! [[Special:Contributions/64.189.19.201|64.189.19.201]] 01:08, 16 November 2010 (EST)
: Ah. Gotcha. This time I also elaborated on how Rodimus was able to make the connection to Daniel's dream.

== Megatron voice ==

So is this what Welker sounds like when he is doing the Megatron voice? Before the sound people edit it? {{unsigned|122.109.99.186}}
:I think it's actually Welker's regular Galvatron voice slowed down to make it sound deeper (because he's Giant Galvatron). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:37, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Thats what I thought, but the page say its the Megatron voice. {{unsigned|122.109.99.186}}
:Not any more. It does sound not unlike Megatron, but I don't think that's intentional. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:53, 15 November 2011 (EST)

Talk:Metalhawk (G1)

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Takeshi357:

Talk:Metalhawk (G1)

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oh god how did this get here i am not good with computer
[[Image:Deathsaurus1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Let it be known that I utterly detest his "official" english name.]]

Talk:Nightmare Planet

2016-01-30T19:24:48Z

Takeshi357:

Is it just me, or does the lizard monster wearing a dotted Tarzan outfit who attacks Ultra Magnus look a lot like the Gorn from Star Trek? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 14:24, 30 January 2016 (EST)

== Music ==

What new music was there? After watching Season 3, all I could identify as "new" was from the Movie. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 12:34, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:Some of the music draws from the musical motifs of DiCola's score, but it's not ''actually'' the movie's score; some of it was apparently composed by [[Robert J. Walsh]] for the G.I. Joe movie. And either way, this is the first episode of the third season to actually employ any of it, with all preceding episodes using the Seasons 1-2 bgms. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:42, 7 March 2010 (EST)
::Is there a list anywhere of what episodes had the new music? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 13:25, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:::Everything from "Nightmare Planet" onwards, except, oddly, for "Fight or Flee". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 7 March 2010 (EST)
::::This is by production order, right? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:56, 7 March 2010 (EST)
:::::Yess'm. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:05, 7 March 2010 (EST)

What's the issue with my little contribution? It's funny AND it makes sense! What do you have against Springer riding Jesus-Lion?! [[Special:Contributions/64.189.19.201|64.189.19.201]] 01:08, 16 November 2010 (EST)
: Ah. Gotcha. This time I also elaborated on how Rodimus was able to make the connection to Daniel's dream.

== Megatron voice ==

So is this what Welker sounds like when he is doing the Megatron voice? Before the sound people edit it? {{unsigned|122.109.99.186}}
:I think it's actually Welker's regular Galvatron voice slowed down to make it sound deeper (because he's Giant Galvatron). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:37, 14 November 2011 (EST)

Thats what I thought, but the page say its the Megatron voice. {{unsigned|122.109.99.186}}
:Not any more. It does sound not unlike Megatron, but I don't think that's intentional. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:53, 15 November 2011 (EST)

Talk:Unicron Trilogy continuity family

2016-01-26T01:57:29Z

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Okay Derik, what's wrong with the "animated continuity" description? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and I see that in addition to the strike through of the description, you've added an unhelpful, confusing info box. Further explanation of this is required. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:16, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

:Am I wrong? It was my understanding that Armada Cartoon > Energon Cartoon > Cybertron cartoon... didn't happen.
:It was really Armada Comic > Energon Comic > Cybertron cartoon. Thus the term 'animated continuity' is extremely wrong. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::Rumor and speculation. There is a section on this in the [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron (cartoon)]] article. So perhaps some version of that text should be here, or at least a link to it. I personally think the idea that Cybertron isn't in-continuity with the previous two cartoons is absurd. At any rate, your chart is decidedly non-helpful. "Actas Duology"? You expect readers to see that and not go "Bwuh?" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::What the hell, Derik? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::What the fuck is an Actas Duology? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 16:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

:::...how is this rumor and speculation? The Fun Pub comics ''explicitly'' establish that the Cybertron in Cybertron (heh) is the one OverRun downloaded himself into after Starscream killed him in the Energon comic. Does this not mean the Cybertron cartoon follows the Dreamwave Energon comic? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::::It also establishes that the Unicron Singularity was caused by Primus trapping Uni's spark in an Energon sun. Guess where that happened! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::In the empty open chunk of continuity left by the cancellation of the Energon comic? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Um, well, I suppose anything ''could'' have happened in there. Of course, Primus trapping Unicron's spark inside a newly created sun actually ''did'' happen in the last episode of the cartoon. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Unless the Fun Pub comic actually said "And then our two continuities merged to create this ass-baby," why are you assuming that the Cybertron with OverRun on it ISN'T the comic? Doesn't it make ''enormously'' more sense to say "Gee, it's the DW Energon continuity, explicitly! I guess the same event took place at the end in order to line up with the first ep of Cybertron!"
:::::::The end of the Armada cartoon and Armada comic both featured Optimus Prime spontaneously recoloring himself and a huge fleet battle against Unicron wherein he is flung out to the far reaches of the galaxy with the Decepticon leader still inside him- creating lasting peace. Why assume the end of the Energon comic would be ''less'' parallel?
:::::::Am I crazy for asking this? Am I missing something? Because it seems like the Fun Pub comic went ''out of its way'' to place the Cybertron cartoon into the void at the end of the Dreamwave comic. Why is everyone looking at me like I farted for saying this? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::::I think the fart in this analogy is not the argument you are making, but rather the ridiculous edit you made to the page. You do have a point in that the Fun Pub comic makes things less clear-cut than the article's current text implies. It could use a helping of the stuff whats on the [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron (cartoon)]] page, as I said above. (BTW, I thought the FP comic gave the Mini-Cons their cartoon-specific Unicronian origin? I have not read it myself, but I'm sure I saw that in some summary somewheres.) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::That coulda been done better, true. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::Not to mention that it specifically takes the time to justify why the Transformers in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon don't remember things from the previous two season right. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::They'd need to have forgotten the Armada and Energon comics too. (Is there a less circular argument hidden here somewhere? "They didnt' remember what came before- therefore they forgot the cartoon continuity.") -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::This all seems [[Talk:Downshift (Energon)|hauntingly familiar]]... --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::I don't care what beef you have, Derik. It's no justification to throw strike-throughs through the page's text and make up nonsensical descriptors that nobody else understands. This wiki shouldn't be a minefield of codewords. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Granted- thus putting a comment-flag in the article to call for others immediate <strike>input</strike> reversion. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Then stop complaining that nobody takes your comments seriously. Why should you trash the page and then get to complain when we don't meet you more than halfway? I refuse to dignify this sort of behavior. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:54, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::That's fair. It seemed like a much better idea at the time than it proved to be in hindsight. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to point this out, on the [[Talk:Downshift (Energon)]] page, Walky says this: "According to Forest Lee, the club comic (and the Cybertron animated series itself) has been said to occur in both the DW comics continuity and the animated continuity." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
: So basically... it's a series that sprang out of the Transformers Multiverse concept of distinct continuities, it uses that concept, heavily, it explicitly deals witht hat concept, and makes it clear that the ''characters involved'' are from certain distinct continuities (BM-3H-toon and DW Energon)... but for some reason in defiance of all that, this story takes place on a smushy "oh, it's both worlds at once, tee-hee, now let's talk about my period and eat bon-bons!" ...despite the fact the aforementioned multiverse '''doesn't work that way'''.
: Oh, and also the story itself doesn't say this at any point.
: I hereby put forward an argument '''against''' authorial intent. If Forest Lee wanted the story to do occour in some contrary-to-internal-logic fashion, he should damn well have written it into the story instead of trying to make crazy, possibly ''drunken'' assertions after-the-fact. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

:: Derik, what are you ranting about now? I really don't think any of us wanted to hear about your period! --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

If the goddamn 1986 animated movie can happen in both the cartoon timestream and the UK comics timestream... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

::The 1986 movie didn't happen in the UK comics. The 1986 movie ''comic adaption'' dis, which moved the whole thign a year, and inserted all sorts of weird things like Galvatron deciding he was going to ''time travel'' right after speaking the words "Decepticons- to earth!"
::The movie was cartoon continuity. A ''very similar'' set of events happened in the comic- but they happened tt the comic characters. The Springer in the the UK version of Unicron's coming had been a former Wrecker. The one in TF:TM, by virtue of the wreckers not existing in the 'toon, was not. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

::: If the events in TFTM can happen in two distinct universes, it's not a far cry for the events of the A-E cartoon to take place in another univerce in which the events from the A-E Comics. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 03:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Right, that's what I was saying- another copy/verion/parallel of the same events. Not the 'same event.' (Which is what Sipher was saying.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

so uh when does beast wars happen you guys? i herd it wuz after the cartoon but my friend says there's a comic it comes after? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey! How come I got the feeling something in UT is missing? Oh who put the words Thanks for putting me together on Unfinished? (Spearhead 04:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

===David Willis Quote and its explanation===
After reading the quote about the UT and then the explanation below agreeing with it, I was thinking that it all just sounded...Terrible and out of place. I know the UT had its set of errrors and problems, but to put a biased statement like that and flat out agree with it is just messed up. Alot of people actually liked the UT and didn't think it was stupid OR a waste of time. Even Energon has people who still like it despite everything. Isn't there someone around with brains enough to put up a quote that's not biased but still applicable, and /or put a decent description. I know the wiki has frequent use of sarcasm and such, but that David willis thing was just over the line.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 02:27, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

===sexism element===
Isn't it really an American thing? I'd never really found it to be out of place back when first watching the show because it seemed to follow historical precedent and just a common thing in English. The transformers ARE treated as soldiers and for most of human history armies were composed of men. If you've ever read any history books they would always say "This many men went into the battle" or something. Needless to say virtually all charachters in Armada are male (aside from humans), Energon just has Arcee(aside from humans) and Cybertron just has Override and Thunderblast. While now there's a stronger prevelance of political correctness I think that that element of the dub is actually the result of the way the people have spoken English up until now. Of course this is all concerning one measly line but I still wanted to put that thought there--[[Special:Contributions/75.85.116.198|75.85.116.198]] 18:36, 28 June 2012 (EDT)
:Now I'm kind of wondering who the hell put that there. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 20:57, 25 January 2016 (EST)

Unicron Trilogy continuity family

2016-01-26T01:55:41Z

Takeshi357: /* Distinctive elements */

[[File:UnicronTrilogyVectorPrime.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|The Unicron Trilogy may be over, but we'll always have redecos.]]
The "'''Unicron Trilogy'''" is [[Hasbro]]'s designation for the [[continuity family]] consisting of ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''.

The Unicron Trilogy continuity family includes these individual continuities:

*'''Cartoon continuity'''
:A continuity composed of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'', ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' television series and its related material, such as the [[Fun Publications]] ''Cybertron'' comic.
*'''[[Dreamwave Armada continuity]]'''
:A continuity composed of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (Dreamwave)|Armada]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Energon (comic)|Energon]]'' comics published by [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]].
*'''Panini Comics continuity'''
:A continuity composed of the [[Panini]] ''Armada'' comics published in the UK.
*Various stand-alone storybooks and [[Transformers Legends (book)|short stories]].

The Unicron Trilogy is so-named because of the central role [[Unicron]] plays in the overall story. All three series feature Unicron in some pivotal way, even ''Cybertron'', where his destruction resulted in the creation of the series' primary threat, the [[Unicron Singularity|universe-threatening black hole]].

==Distinctive elements==
Transformer physiology in the Unicron Trilogy seem to be subtly but fundamentally different from that in many other continuity families. Transformers' sparks, rather than being fragile flickers of life sustained and protected by their bodies, are fantastically durable things, capable of being removed for upgrades and, in several instances, floating freely in space, still alive after the bodies which once housed them were atomized, and then being easily implanted into a new body.

{{see|Unicron Trilogy cartoon timeline}}

==Notes==
* The term "Unicron Trilogy" was first mentioned by [[Aaron Archer]] at [[BotCon 2005]]<ref name="steve-o">[http://www.camphortree.net/tf/tidbits/botcon2005.txt Steve-o Stonebraker's BotCon 2005 Notes]</ref>. Later, the term was officially canonized by the back of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Vector Prime]]'s [[packaging]], superseding fan-coined names such as '''Armadaverse''', '''Armadagon''' and the '''AEC''' (Armada-Energon-Cybertron) universe.
* The Unicron Trilogy is called the '''Micron Trilogy''' in Japan, named by [[Hisashi Yuki]] of Takara.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20120329200545/http://www.takarahobby.com/kaihatsu/0601happy_new_year/004.html]</ref>
* In-universe, the Unicron Trilogy continuity is referred to as "[[Aurex]]" in the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTechs]]' [[universal stream]] designators.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Micron Sanbusaku''' (マイクロン三部作, "Micron Trilogy")
{{stub}}

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Continuity families]]
[[Category:Unicron Trilogy]]

Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!

2016-01-24T19:40:44Z

Takeshi357: /* Synopsis */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''Transformers: Zone'' ep 1
|prev=Echo Across the Galaxy! Bell of Love!!
|title="Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!"
|japanese=新総司令官ダイアトラス登場!
|romaji=Shin Sōshireikan Dai Atlas Tōjō!
|translation=
|image=ZonePoster1.jpg
|caption=Zone is the Enders
|production code=
|production company=[[TakaraTomy|Takara]], [[Columbia Music Entertainment|Nihon Columbia]]
|writer=[[Toyohiro Ando]]
|director=[[Hiromichi Matano]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|airdate=[[July 21|21 July]] 1990
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}
'''When nine of the most powerful Decepticons are gathered together under the rule of Violen Jiger, Autobot Powered Master Dai Atlas must step forward to prevent them from acquiring the power of the mystical Zodiac.'''

{{--}}

==Synopsis==
[[File:Victorysaber feminia destruction.jpg|left|thumb|200px|If only he's a [[Star_Saber_(Victory)#IDW_Generation_1_continuity|hideous zealot]] in this clip.]]

Seeking to conquer the universe, the mysterious, demonic [[Violen Jiger]] gathers together the [[Decepticon]]s [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]], [[King Poseidon]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]] as his [[Nine Great Demon Generals]]. To remove the threat the [[Autobot]]s pose to his goal, he has the generals devastate the planet [[Feminia]], drawing the attention of Autobot [[Supreme Commander]] [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] and his troops, who arrive to save the planet's populace. Victory Saber saves the life of a young boy named [[Cain]], but is unable to escape the planet's destruction himself and is left missing in action when Feminia explodes.

[[File:EnergonZ.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Ha ha, I have stolen the prop from [[wikipedia:My Science Project|My Science Project]]!"]]

With the Autobots in disarray following the loss of Victory Saber, Violen Jiger charges his generals with obtaining the Autobots' new energy source [[Energon Z]], and the [[Zodiac]], the enigmatic energy force responsible for the creation of the universe, which he intends to fuse together to create the super-energy that will fuel his dreams of conquest.

Meanwhile, Cain and his pet [[Emusa]] are brought to [[Micro|Planet Zone]], the fortified defence base of the Autobot [[Micromaster]]s, where [[Moonradar (Zone)|Moonradar]] and [[Rabbicrater]] give him the lowdown on its history. Zone was created by the [[Powered Master]]s, early Transformer pioneers of space, and the [[Zone Base]] is powered by [[Energon Z]]—which makes the planet the next target for the Demon Generals. Overlord, Menasor, Bruticus and Abominus attack the planet and steal the Energon Z, escaping into space as Moonradar leads the [[Super Car Patrol Team]] and the [[Battle Patrol|Battle Patrol Team]] in pursuit. Their way is barred by BlackZarak, who impedes their progress with an energy net. The [[Jet Patrol Team]] free their companions, and [[Sunrunner]] tracks the Generals with his radar, discovering that the capsule of Energon Z has been handed off to the other half of the group, who are on their way to Earth.

[[Image:CainAkiraPetals.jpg|right|200px|thumb|And as the cherry blossoms lowered, so did our expectations.]]

Back on Zone, as the [[Rescue Patrol Team]] cleans up, the Powered Masters [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]] and [[Sonic Bomber]] return from their search for Victory Saber, bringing the wounded commander back safely. The two Powered Masters briefly watch over Victory Saber in the infirmary, then set out for Earth, where Devastator, King Poseidon, Trypticon and Predaking are already wreaking havoc. The Micromasters, meanwhile, have already arrived on the planet, just in time to save a young boy named [[Akira Serikawa|Akira]], who... ''befriends''... Cain as the Micromasters do the best they can to hold off the Generals. In the nick of time, Dai Atlas and Sonic Bomber arrive, and the battle goes underground as Devastator and Dai Atlas race to find the Zodiac, buried in a cavern beneath the Earth's surface. As Devastator is dispatched by a river of lava, King Poseidon attempts to escape with the Zodiac, but is stopped by Sonic Bomber, and tosses it to his fellow Generals. Dai Atlas is able to snatch it from their grasp, but the enraged Trypticon then unleashes a beam of Energon Z from the capsule directly at him. Sonic Bomber valiantly takes the hit for Dai Atlas and is nearly killed by the beam, but Trypticon simply fires off another shot. In desperation, Dai Atlas holds aloft the Zodiac and petitions it for help, and as the Energon Z washes over it, its power is unleashed. Dai Atlas and Sonic Bomber are transformed into "Zone Modes", heavily-armed base forms that dispense with King Poseidon and Trypticon. Attempting to flee, Predaking is cleaved in two by Dai Atlas's Zone Sword Cutter attack, and the Zodiac is retrieved.

The Autobots, Cain and Akira then discuss the nature of the Zodiac amongst themselves, with Akira revealing that he learned about the existence of Zodiac from his father, but he wants to know more about space and the Transformers. Conversely, Cain and Moonradar want to learn about Earth, and they all agree to teach each other about their respective subjects. Emusa then invites Akira to Zone, and Dai Atlas approves; Akira is ecstatic, but stops to pull something from his backpack — he presents Cain and Emusa with some flowers, and wants to bring plenty along for the trip!

Returning to Zone, Victory Saber appoints Dai Atlas as the new Supreme Commander of the Autobots. The flying Emusa throws a bouquet into the air that falls apart, and as the petals rain down on the laughing boys and nearby Autobots, the crowd cheers Dai Atlas' name.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] (6)
* [[Galaxy Shuttle]] (7)
* [[Holi]] (8)
* [[Pīpō]] (9)
* [[Fire]] (10)
* [[Boater]] (11)
* [[Moonradar (Zone)|Moonradar]] (17)
* [[Rabbicrater]] (18)
* [[Star Cloud]] (20)
* [[Windrim]] (21)
* [[Big Shot]] (22)
* [[Whisper (Zone)|Whisper]] (23)
* [[Nightflight (Zone)|Nightflight]] (24)
* [[Sidetrack]] (25)
* [[Flak (G1)|Flak]] (26)
* [[Gingham]] (27)
* [[Black Heat]] (28)
* [[Sunrunner]] (29)
* [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]] (31)
* [[Sonic Bomber]] (32)
* [[Tailspin]] (33)
* [[Swindler]] (34)
* [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] (35)
* [[Deadhour]] (37)
* [[Road Hugger (Zone)|Road Hugger]] (38)
* [[Road Caesar]] (39)
* [[Grand Maximus]] (40)
* [[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]] (41)
* [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] (42)
* [[Lander (Masterforce)|Lander]] (43)
* [[Lightfoot (Masterforce)|Lightfoot]] (44)
* [[Ranger]] (45)
* [[Road King]] (46)
|c2=
* [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] (3)
* [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] (4)
* [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] (5)
* [[Violen Jiger]] (12)
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (13)
* [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (14)
* [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] (15)
* [[King Poseidon]] (16)
* [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (19)
* [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]] (30)
|c3=
* [[Akira Serikawa|Akira]] (36)
|c4=
* [[Cain]] (1)
* [[Emusa]] (2)
}}

==Quotes==

"The Autobots' Supreme Commander, [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]], has vanished into space like dust." 
"[The Nine Demon Generals cheer]" 
"I shall take control over the entire universe to create a Decepticon Zone!" 
"[The Nine Demon Generals cheer again]" 
"[Changes face] Find the Super Energy that is needed." 
"[Changes face again] And retrieve it by any means necessary!"
:—'''Violen Jiger's''' only speaking lines.

==Notes==
*Opening song is "[[Transformer Z no Theme]]" and ending song is "[[Ashita no Kimi e]]".
*The episode was produced by [[Kenji Yokoyama]], who also produced ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Headmasters]]''.

===Animation or technical glitches===
*During Star Saber's repair operation, his battle helmet is blue.
*When Devastator goes underground after trying to attack Dai Atlas from behind, the part of his cape on his shoulders is colored green instead of purple.

===Transformers references===
*The Transformers previously visited Planet Feminia in [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5|issue 5]] of the 1986 manga, ''[[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]]''. [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] also mentioned it in "[[Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime]]".
*Planet Zone is an overhauled, upgraded version of [[Micro]], seen previously in the ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' animated series.
*The core of the Zone Base, referred to as the "Rocket Base" in the toyline and ''[[TV Magazine]]'' spreads, is identical to the Shuttle Base from ''Victory''. While it is unclear if the Shuttle Base and the Rocket Base were originally intended to be the same structure, ''[[Transformers: The Ark II|The Ark II]]'' has declared them to be so.
*The [[fire station]], [[gas station]], [[airport]] and [[construction station]] Micromaster Bases belonging to [[Hot House]], [[Glasspit]], [[Overair]] and [[Ironworks]], respectively, all appear as part of the Zone Base, although their Micromaster owners do not.
*During Dai Atlas coronation, [[Grand Maximus]], the [[Godmaster (lifeform)|Godmaster]]s, [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]], [[Lander (Masterforce)|Lander]], [[Road Caesar]], and [[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]] can be seen at Star Saber's side.

===Trivia===
[[Image:ZoneOPCreatures.jpg|thumb|right|200px|What the hell?]]
*According to an interview featured in ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Comics]]'', ''Zone'' was to receive a second episode in the form of a TV special. However, production was cancelled due to unspecified circumstances (likely declining interest in the ''Transformers'' brand, a factor that brought about the end of the American toyline the same year ''Zone'' was released), making "Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!" the only episode of ''Zone'' to be animated.
*Although [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|rumors]] have always circulated that as many as five could have been completed, only this first episode was released, and serves as the final animated installment of the Japanese ''Generation 1'' cartoon.
*The episode is an adaptation of the single chapter of ''Zone'' [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|manga]], or perhaps vice-versa—the manga was released three months before the OVA, although it's not totally clear which media the story was first conceived for. There are some small differences between the anime and the manga: most notably, in the manga, Predaking is blasted by Dai Atlas and Sonic Bomber's Zone Modes along with King Poseidon and Trypticon, while the anime sees him make a run for it and wind up getting bisected. [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Story pages]] in ''[[TV Magazine]]'' would later establish that all three generals survived the Zone Mode blast in the manga, whereas they rather definitively died in the anime. As such, the story pages are, in the strictest sense, not in-continuity with the anime, although the official 2007 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|timeline]] established that their events, in broad strokes, also occurred in animated continuity.
*The ''Zone'' VHS came packaged with the [[exclusive]] figure, [[Rabbicrater]].
*The ''Zone'' [[title sequence]] features Sonic Bomber fighting a strange blue winged creature and Dai Atlas fighting a huge pink bear-esque creature, both of which end up destroyed by the Autobots. Just who or ''what'' these things are is never explained in any extant ''Zone'' fiction.
*Four complete Micromaster teams appear in this episode: the [[Rescue Patrol Team]], the [[Battle Patrol|Battle Patrol Team]], the [[Jet Patrol Team]] and the [[Super Car Patrol Team]]. The latter two use the molds from the [[Air Strike Patrol]] and the [[Sports Car Patrol]], who were Decepticons in the West.
*Only three members of the [[Race Car Patrol|Race Car Patrol Team]] appear in this episode—in cameos from behind, nonetheless. The missing member is [[Free Wheeler]], who can briefly be spotted in the opening sequence.
[[Image:CainAkiraBlush.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Cain really looks like he stepped out of ''[[wikipedia:Saint Seiya|Knights of the Zodiac]]'', doesn't he?]]
*So, uh... yeah. Cain and Akira are pretty gay. Aside from both being very effeminate in design, there's a scene in the story where, during Predaking and Trypticon's attack on the base-mode Galaxy Rocket, Akira is shaken up and falls back into Cain's arms, and they linger on the pair in close-up as both of them blush. Then, the whole closing sequence is about them running through a field of [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoveBubbles shōjo bubbles] and watching the sunrise together. Quite why Takara decided to use such ghastly anime cliché visuals after having stayed away from anything even ''close'' to this in Transformers before, we may never know.
*Devastator totally knocks down the World Trade Center. That dastardly terrorist.
*As Predaking's freshly sliced halves separate, what appears to be [[:File:PredaBrain1.jpg|an organic brain]] is briefly visible inside. Which is odd.
*Much like the "[[Scramble City: Mobilization|Scramble City]]" OVA, [[Shout! Factory]] was outright denied the distribution license for the ''Zone'' OVA in the United States by co-producers [[Toei]]. Precisely why Toei would not permit the OVA to be released in the United States has never been made public.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote|jsubs}}
[[Image:Columbia Zone DVD.jpg|thumb|100px|]]
;VHS
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1990 — ''Transformers: Zone'' ([[Columbia Music Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2003 — ''Transformers: Victory'' — DVD Box 02 ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2004 — ''Transformers: Zone'' (Columbia Music Entertainment) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Takara Collection ([[Metrodome]]) — Optional commentary by [[Chris McFeely]]. 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2008 — ''The Transformers: Victory'' ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers: Japan Generation 1'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)
{{-}}

==External Link==
*[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BCZ ''Transformers Zone'' article at the Japanese Wikipedia]

[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon episodes]]
[[Category:Zone media]]

Talk:Ghost in the Machine (G1)

2016-01-23T12:48:50Z

Takeshi357: Created page with "Was this episode originally intended to be a direct follow-up to Starscream's Ghost? That episode ends the same way this begins, with Starscream possessing Scourge, it was..."

Was this episode originally intended to be a direct follow-up to [[Starscream's Ghost]]? That episode ends the same way this begins, with Starscream possessing Scourge, it was presented as a sequel hook there. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 07:48, 23 January 2016 (EST)

Thief in the Night

2016-01-23T10:31:21Z

Takeshi357: /* Animation or technical errors */

{{episode|
|series=G1toon
|series2=2010
|ep=76
|ep2=6
|prev2=Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5
|next2=Starscream's Ghost
|image=ThiefNight Trypticon monuments.JPG
|caption=Looks more like a "Thief in the Day" to us.
|title="Thief in the Night"
|production code=700-96
|airdate=[[October 6]], 1986
|written by=[[Paul Davids]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[AKOM]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Octane steals Trypticon in an attempt to use him to control the Decepticons.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:ThiefNight Seaspray Broadside.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Thundersub! Oh wait, wrong universe.]]

[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] are reviewing the footage of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s [[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5|battle with]] [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. Grimlock declares that he wants to see the "good part", where Metroplex destroyed Trypticon, but [[Teletraan II]] states that Trypticon survived the encounter. [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] travel to where Trypticon landed in the ocean, and learn that he walked underwater to avoid being caught.

Meanwhile, the [[Triple Changer]] [[Octane (G1)|Octane]] is nursing Trypticon back to health, using [[energon]] made from the [[oil]] of [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Carbombya]]. Octane hopes that with Trypticon to back him up, he can overthrow [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] and become [[Decepticon leader|leader]] of the [[Decepticon]]s. However, [[Abdul Fakkadi (G1)|Abdul Fakkadi]], the leader of the desert nation, is unhappy with Trypticon's constant consumption of oil. Fakkadi demands that the two Decepticons leave, or he will call the [[Autobot]]s. Octane offers to bring Fakkadi [[gold]] in exchange for being able to stay, but Fakkadi declares that it would take all the gold of the [[United States of America|United States]] to allow them to stay. The simple answer? Octane has Trypticon steal [[Fort Knox]].

Pacified, Fakkadi agrees to allow the Decepticons to remain in Carbombya until the next crescent moon, and Trypticon is put under strict ration of one thousand barrels a day. Octane declares that Trypticon will starve, and negotiates a new plan: give Fakkadi a new palace, and he will let them stay and have more oil. To make Fakkadi "more happy", Trypticon steals the [[Taj Mahal]].

[[File:ThiefNight Autobots investigate.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Meanwhile, in the barren deserts of Kentucky...]]

While the Autobots investigate the disappearance of Fort Knox ('cause that's something that directly involves the Autobots), Grimlock finds [[energon cube]]s which he says "smell different". As Perceptor begins analyzing the energon, Grimlock also smells [[dinosaur transform static]], and fears one of his own [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] may have been involved. Metroplex decides to interrogate all the Dinobots.

At Carbombya, Fakkadi is pleased, declaring that with enough monuments, they will soon have a thriving tourist attraction. However, Galvatron has been tracking down Trypticon. He declares Octane a traitor, saying he stole Trypticon from [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]. Thinking fast, Octane claims that he brought Trypticon to Carbombya to help him get better, with a more powerful form of energon, and tosses Galvatron a cube. As Trypticon says nothing to contradict the story, Galvatron takes a swig, and finds that it ''is'' stronger.

Meanwhile, [[Six-Gun (G1)|Six-Gun]] and [[Scamper (G1)|Scamper]] are interrogating the Dinobots, as well as [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]], under the watchful eye of Metroplex. Sky Lynx angrily objects to being called a Dinobot, and refuses to participate. Perceptor runs in declaring that the energon Grimlock found was made via a Decepticon formula, with Carbombyan oil. Perceptor believes that Trypticon is responsible for the thefts. Broadside takes the Aerialbots to investigate, and spots the two stolen buildings. However, Trypticon surfaces, carrying the [[Eiffel Tower]]. Galvatron and Octane are explaining to Fakkadi that the Decepticons will supply Carbombya with more buildings, such as the [[Kremlin]], while they take over the oil fields. However, Trypticon spots the Aerialbots, and converts to battle mode, forcing the Aerialbots to retreat.

[[File:ThiefNight Metroplex Kremlin.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to become a tall building in a single bound!]]

Having learned that Trypticon intends to take the Kremlin, the Autobots head to [[Moscow]], but Metroplex is late. In the night fog, Trypticon arrives and steals the Kremlin, but Metroplex interrupts him. Metroplex takes back the Kremlin while Trypticon flees, and the [[Soviet Union|Soviet government]] accuses the Autobots of the theft, as does [[India]]. Grimlock laments the Autobots' sad fate.

[[File:ThiefNight Metroplex Trypticon.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"Trypticon, I wouldn't trust you as far as I could thr—uh, wait..."]]

At Carbombya, Fakkadi is recording a message to send to the Autobots, authorizing them to invade Carbombya and attack the Decepticons. Galvatron, however, simply locks up the dictator. Rodimus, the Dinobots, the Aerialbots, Metroplex, and Broadside arrive to fight off the Decepticons, and Metroplex throws Trypticon into the ocean (again). Without Trypticon to even the odds, Galvatron orders the 'Cons to retreat. Metroplex returns the monuments, clearing the Autobots' name. Rodimus asks Fakkadi to never ally with the Decepticons again. Fakkadi promises the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] that he will not, swearing by the livestock of his various family members.
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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (2)
* [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] (3)
* [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (4)
* [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] (5)
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (6)
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (7)
* [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (8)
* [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (9)
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (10)
* [[Teletraan II]] (11)
* [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (12)
* [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] (13)
* [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] (21)
* [[Slammer]] (28)
* [[Six-Gun (G1)|Six-Gun]] (29)
* [[Scamper (G1)|Scamper]] (30)
* [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (31)
* [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] (32)
* [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] (33)
* [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] (34)
* [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (35)
* [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (40)
* [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (41)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (42)
|c2=
* [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (1)
* [[Octane (G1)|Octane]] (16)
* [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (22)
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (23)
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (24)
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (25)
* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (26)
* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (27)
* [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (39)
* [[Sweep]] (43)
|c3=
* Luxury Cruises captain (14)
* Luxury Cruises passengers (15)
* [[Abdul Fakkadi (G1)|Abdul Fakkadi]] (17)
* Fakkadi's lackeys (18)
* US Army officer (19)
* Private [[Dixson]] (20)
* Soviet army officer (36)
* Soviet news broadcaster (37)
* Indian news broadcaster (38)
}}

==Quotes==
"Don't go overexertin' yourself so much! You're just beginning to recover! I don't want you wearin' yourself out, Trypti-babes!" 
"Am big hero now. Attack enemy boat!" 
"Yeah? You're wastin' all your energy shootin' at vacation cruise ships!" 
"No waste! Destroy dangerous enemy!"
:—'''Octane''' has all the style of a big-shot ad exec. '''Trypticon''' has all the brains of a rock.

"Trypticon and me wanna turn your country into a paradise!" 
"It already ''is'' a paradise." 
"Just a minute, just a minute - I mean a ''rich'' paradise! Uh, do you like gold?" 
"Gold? Yes! This is something that interests Abdul Fakkadi. But it would take all the gold of the United States to persuade me to let you stay here another day." 
"Hmm. You sure ain't easy to please, your Excellency!"
:—'''Octane'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s offer elicits an icy response from '''Abdul Fakkadi'''.

"Hold on there, Supreme Whatever!" 
"But in the meantime, we gotta keep his Worthiness, the imperial master of slaves, happy!"
:—Tell us how you really feel about Abdul Fakkadi, '''Octane'''.

'''Galvatron''': You're a traitor, Octane! You had no permission to take Trypticon away from Dinobot Island! I needed Trypticon for my plans of conquering the Earth. Now, thanks to you, he may never recover! 
'''Octane''': But you got it all wrong, Galvatron! Me and Trypticon found this fantastic new type of energon. It's helping Trypticon get all better real quick! Try some, you'll love it! 
'''Trypticon''': Drink! Drink and CRUSH! 
'''Galvatron''': That's good! Makes me feel stronger, more powerful!
:—Galvatron is soothed by Octane and Trypticon

"Why am I under investigation? I'm not a Dinobot." 
"Ya got Dinosaur electrons in yer circuits, Sky Lynx." 
"Never the less, I am ''definitely'' not a Dinobot! I refuse to participate in this...kangaroo court!"
:—'''Sky Lynx''' denounces '''Six-Gun''''s prosecution skills.

"Me Grimlock say this grim. Whole world thinks Autobots are building snatchers."
:—'''Grimlock''' laments the Autobots' sad fate.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===
[[File:ThiefNight Fakkadi holding gold.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|I said, when I woke up this morning, I heard a disturbing sound! What I heard was the jingle-jangle of a thousand lost souls!]]
[[File:G1 Six-Gun.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Don't be lost when the time comes!]]
* Per the AKOM standard, the following characters have non-standard color or design models:
** Rodimus's shoulders are red instead of white, and his gun is red instead of black.
** The inside of Galvatron's mouth is dark purple.
* As usual for large-scale characters, Trypticon's size fluctuates all over the place. Sometimes Octane comes up to his ankle, sometimes to his toe, sometimes to his knee.
*In the second shot of the episode (people running away from Trypticon), the woman in orange is missing her eyes.
*When we first see the Autobots watching the city-bot battle footage, Grimlock is seen in [[robot mode]] from behind (and his head is light gray instead of black). When he starts to talk, he is in dinosaur mode.
* Rodimus is missing his spoiler as he clarifies Grimlock's request.
* The Luxury Cruises captain says that Carbombya is off the ship's starboard bow. The country is actually on the port side of the ship (and the ship is shown a few hundred yards from shore at most - definitely not the "three mile limit" the tour guide describes.)
* In the closeup shot of him reporting to Broadside, Seaspray is missing the crossbar between his propellers.
* Abdul's throne has five steps in front of it. When he starts talking to his men about Octane and Trypticon, he walks down three of the steps. Two shots later, he takes two steps forwards, and then the shot changes and he's suddenly only on the third step and needs to take three more to reach the main floor.
* Speaking of the steps, they start out as a small platform around his throne but are much larger a few shots later.
* Once again, the commercial bumpers have an extra second or two of music at the start.
* Abdul's medals (especially the one with white and red stripes) change colors and shapes during his chat with Octane after the Fort Knox heist.
* Fort Knox is orange as Trypticon approaches it (a painted matte background), but gray as he picks it up (a cel animated drawing.) It also is a much simpler shape as he picks it up.
* The American flag doesn't flutter or move at all throughout the entire scene.
* "Pitful." "Outrageous." - Silverbolt and Skydive's voices are both off.
* As Grimlock notices the energon cubes around the Fort Knox site, the top of his head disappears a few times.
* As Octane notes their partnership, there are six lines around the top of his Decepticon logo instead of four.
* The Taj Mahal is initially shown at night; then it's daytime as Trypticon approaches it. The minarets surrounding it are also missing in the same shot.
* Trypticon clips through the left side of the Taj Mahal as he steals it.
* Coloring errors:
** The first shot of the Decepticons flying into Carbombya  includes an upside-down [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]], miscolored as [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]].
** As Galvatron first challenges Octane, Ramjet is miscolored as Thrust, who is right in front of him.
** As Perceptor notes that the Dinobots are innocent, his Autobot logo is framed in black instead of white.
** Two mis-drawn, mis-colored Aerialbots are shown taking off from the water after Air Raid's brief ditching maneuver. One seems to be a pointy-nosed Fireflight colored as Skydive, and the other is the same model colored as Air Raid.
** The Moscow establishing shot shows a Springer-like green robot, but closeups show Grimlock in his place.
* As Octane explains himself, there are a couple of hairs in the top of the frame.
* When we pan down from Metroplex (in robot mode) to see Six-Gun for his first (and only) animated appearance, Metroplex is still wearing the shoulder cannons that supposedly form Six-Gun's arms.
* As Scamper drives along the row of Dinobots, Swoop is laying belly-down on the ground rather than standing on his [[beast mode]] feet; his torso is also huge and fat. Beside him, Sky Lynx's lander section is white instead of blue, and Grimlock is missing his lower jaw.
* Trypticon steals the Taj Mahal without its minarets, and is shown without them when we first see it in Carbombya - but it suddenly has them when Galvatron arrives at the palace.
[[File:Thiefinthenight trypticon steals kremlin.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|''Well let us all, all go back Back to the old, old landmark!'']]
* Only the Taj Mahal is in Abdul's compound when Air Raid flies over it - no Fort Knox, no original palace.
* When Octane smashes out of the Taj Mahal's dome, we see night sky through the hole - even though there's daylight coming in through the windows in the same shot!
* Trypticon and all the Decepticons get a non-standard laser sound effect as they attack the Aerialbots.
* Metroplex's mouth doesn't move for his "Hold your fire!" line.
* After blowing up Abdul's TV camera, Galvatron, Ramjet and Dirge are shown standing between a pair of ''huge'' but otherwise normal looking glass doors. The three Decepticons don't even come up to the door handles!
* Despite the dialogue, the building Trypticon attempts to steal from Moscow is not the [[wikipedia:Moscow Kremlin|Kremlin]] but nearby [[wikipedia:Saint Basil's Cathedral|Saint Basil's Cathedral]].
* Wheelie's canopy is open as he rides on Broadside, and again as he jumps off.
* When the Autobots jump off Broadside, Grimlock disappears from the shot.
* When the Autobots are shown firing after Trypticon is hurled into the ocean, there are three Rodimus Primes, two Perceptors, and two [[Blurr (G1)|Blurrs]].
* On the Metrodome and Shout! Factory DVD releases, a series of vertical lines appears in the center of the screen in several shots - including the jeep approaching Fort Knox, at the end of the Dinobot interrogation, and the Aerialbots launching off of Broadside.

===Continuity errors===
[[File:MetroplexvsTrypticonFFODvsThiefintheNight.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|You thought Rhino's DVD release of G1 screwed things up? Check out the version that the Autobots wound up with!]]
* This episode is actually set before "[[Starscream's Ghost]]" as it explains why Galvatron has it in for Octane. Except it doesn't actually explain that - Galvatron is no longer on bad terms with Octane at the end of the episode. Put it down to Galvatron's insanity. In real-life production terms, Octane's role in "Starscream's Ghost" was originally meant for Blitzwing, accounting for the somewhat wonky continuity with this episode.
* The Autobots watch a version of Trypticon and Metroplex's battle that is very different from what happened in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]"; though the general outline is correct, the details are totally off:
** Both city-bots have different dialogue than they did in the original.
** Metroplex first challenges Trypticon as he's randomly stomping his way through an Earth city; in the original, Trypticon was about to stomp the disabled Metroplex when the fight began.
** Metroplex is shown throwing Trypticon over an icy environment (it was actually more like a desert), and Trypticon slides over a flat-topped brown cliffside on his way into the ocean (he actually ''bounced'' over some ''grey'' cliffs).
* It's pretty weird that Teletraan II didn't immediately inform the Autobots that a robot as dangerous as Trypticon was still alive.
* First Trypticon crunches the energon cubes, then they melt in his mouth, then he drinks from them.
* In this episode, energon cubes take on a rusted brownish color when emptied. Previously, they became clear when drained of energy, such as when the Decepticons got "over-energized" during the episode "[[Microbots]]".
[[File:ThiefNight Fort Knox.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.2|Normally we're all in favor of sound effect consistency, but the ''gong gong gong'' sound that plays every single time Metroplex or Trypticon takes a step gets ''really annoying'' by the end of the episode.]]
* Given their need for the energon cubes, why did Octane and Trypticon just leave several laying there at Fort Knox?
* Trypticon lifts the Fort Knox building straight up; the next two shots show the inside tilting and gold spilling everywhere.
* The episode's central premise, of Trypticon stealing famous buildings and carrying them back to north Africa, strains credibility. More accurately, it takes credibility and drags it outside, gives it a thorough beating, and launches it into the sun:
** ''Nobody'' noticed Trypticon as he just strolled up to Fort Knox (after making his way to the interior of the USA)? None of the guards bothered to call the Autobots?
** Buildings can apparently just be picked up and carried around. Masonry buildings do not crumble into rubble or implode into dust when grasped by their walls and ripped from their foundations. The cast iron Eiffel Tower does not shatter or snap when manhandled like a toy. None of them are harmed by being carried through the bottom of the ocean or being deluged by salt water.
** Amazing that after being carried by hand to a separate hemisphere (through the ocean!!) the gold bars are still stacked neatly in Fort Knox.
** Amazing that the gold bars are still stacked neatly when it was last seen falling on the guards.
** Amazing that the gold bars are not slathered in human blood after crushing and smashing the guards.
** Amazing that St. Basil's Cathedral can be ''thrown'' - and ''caught'' - without suffering catastrophic damage.
* Considering that Fakkadi hired Trypticon and Octane to keep the American "imperialist fanatic" tourists away from Carbombya, it is rather unclear why he would desire his nation to become a tourist mecca via the appropriated world monuments. Did he suddenly realize the economic potential of having foreigners bringing their money to his country?
[[File:SixGunCartoon1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|"Well, Slag is well known as a connoisseur of fine art, and Sludge moonlights in architecture and design. They have to have done it!"]]
* Trypticon apparently didn't leave a single footprint? No trail of destruction? No snapped trees, no crushed buildings, no shell-shocked witnesses, no flattened victims, no... ''anything'' that would tip the Autobots off?
** No, the only clue left behind is... [[dinosaur transform static]]!
*** Who finds it? That Sherlock of Sherlocks, the ever-observant Grimlock!
**** What dinosaur-bots do the Autobots immediately suspect of carrying off a giant building? Why, the Dinobots, naturally!
* Air Raid's "I'm a goner! Goodbye cruel world!" is more than a little hyperbolic, considering he just touches the water for half a second then flies off normally.
* Likewise, Galvatron's reason for retreating is absurd - he's got Trypticon and a whole squad besides, up against five Aerialbots.

===Continuity notes===
[[File:Sandstorm ThiefInTheNight.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4]]
[[File:Slammer sixgun scamper.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Metroplex mostly uses Scamper, Six-Gun, and Slammer to scout and defend his periphery, although occasionally he'll send one or more to put random Autobots on trial for flimsy pretexts.]]
* The battle shown at the episode's beginning ostensibly happened in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]" - however, see Continuity Errors, above.
* Trypticon had been taken to [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]] in an attempt to help him recover. When the Decepticons last [[Dinobot Island, Part 2|visited the island]], they had been attacked by the [[Dinosaur (dinosaur)|natives]].
* As related by Abdul Fakkadi, 1,000 barrels of oil is required to make ''one'' energon cube - and Trypticon consumes ''fifty cubes an hour''! This is, of course, vastly out of line with what we saw in previous seasons of the show - in "More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2", for example, just a few barrels of oil seemed to be enough to make a cube.
** That totals up to 1.2 million barrels a day to keep Trypticon running. For comparison, the daily crude output of Libya in 1990 was 1.4 million barrels a day. [http://wiki.openoil.net/index.php?title=Sanctions_Against_Libya]
*** And that's just with him sitting around shooting at cruise ships. How much does he burn when he flies to other planets?!
* There are apparently different formulas for energon, some used by Decepticons and others by the Autobots.
* Something called [[dinosaur transform static]] exists. We didn't make it up; we're just documenting.
* Octane actually fulfills his tech spec function of "fueler", carrying along some energon cubes for Trypticon as they approach Fort Knox.
* Sandstorm puts in an appearance, which would chronologically place this episode after his debut in "[[Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee]]"; that episode had yet to air, however, and came later in the show's production order.
* This is the only appearance of Six-Gun.
* Galvatron claims that he's "stronger than ever" thanks to Carbombyian oil. The claim was more impressive when he made it having bathed in the plasma baths of Thrull. If you are inclined to account for his ''Transformers Universe'' profile, he could once call on the power of Unicron himself, too, definitely a better power source than crude oil.
* If we want to trust the animation, the shot of Metroplex setting down the Eiffel Tower pegs his height at around 1,100 feet, give or take. He's only a fraction of that when holding the (much shorter) St. Basil's.

===Real-world references===
[[File:Fakkadi.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|This feckless dictator steals monuments, cooperates with the bad guys, rides around on a camel and swears "on the grave of my mother's camel, and my uncle's goat, and even my sister's donkeys". Your wiki editors can't especially blame Mr. Kasem for walking off.]]
[[File:ThiefintheNight Taj Mahal.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|In India, the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] is unusually huge.]]
* While the title is a rather literal description of Trypticon's activities, the phrase comes from the [[Wikipedia:Bible|Bible]], regarding the second coming of [[Jesus]]: [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Thessalonians%204:16-5:2;&version=31; "The day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night."]
* The nation of Carbombya (and its mercurial military ruler) is a thin pastiche of the north African nation of Libya, whose ruler Ghadafi was supporting any number of terrorist activities around the world at the time - hence the car bomb pun. The US bombed Libya in early 1986, bringing the country and its military dictator to popular attention right around the time frame when this episode was likely being written.
** Said pastiche drove [[Casey Kasem]] to leave the show, as he declined to work on an episode that contained what he felt were offensive stereotypes of Arabs - thus the appearance of Teletraan II with a new and different voice from its predecessor.
* Monuments stolen by Trypticon include:
** The U.S. Gold Bullion Depository building from Fort Knox, Kentucky. The actual building is a similar shape to that shown in episode, though the details and proportions are different. Also, it has a full military base around it, not just empty desert. And it doesn't actually contain all the United States' gold.
** The Taj Mahal
** The Eiffel Tower
** A failed attempt on the Kremlin, rendered as the more visually famous Saint Basil's Cathedral.
* A whole scene is set in [[Moscow]]; [[Siberia]] gets a mention; and the [[Soviet Union]] and its ruling Politburo get a newsfeed story, complete with the USSR's flag in the background. We also see some Red Army troops in action and something that's supposed to be Russian folk dancing. Although this episode is set in the year 2006, the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991 out here in the real world.
[[File:ThiefNight Metroplex returns Eiffel Tower.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|Metroplex does Paris in a day.]]
* [[Paris]] also puts in a one-shot appearance as Metroplex returns the Eiffel Tower.
* ''Star Wars'' sound effects:
** AT-AT lasers as the Decepticons fire on the Aerialbots.
** C-3PO "NO!" laser as the Deceptions fire at Air Raid.

===Trivia===
*This was one of twelve episodes of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] released as audio adventures by the [[Germany|German]] company [[Karussell|Karussell Musik und Video]].
* Trypticon is the most energy inefficient robot ever. Seriously.

===Foreign localization===

'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Wie ein Dieb in der Nacht'''" ("Like a Thief in the Night")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' メトロフレックスVSダイナザウラー (''Metroflex VS Dinosaurer'')
:*''Original airdate:'' [[December 19]], [[1986]]

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Thief in the Night / Surprise Party ([[Tempo Video]])
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 1 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 1: Vol. 2 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 4: Series 3.1 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/season-3/synopses/700-96.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

Fight or Flee (episode)

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{{disambig2|the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 episode]]|the [[The Transformers: Punishment|''Punishment'']] issue|Fight or Flee (issue)}}
{{episode|
|series=G1toon
|ep=86
|series2=2010
|ep2=15
|prev2=Carnage in C-Minor
|next2=Ghost in the Machine (episode)
|series3=''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|The Transformers: Generation 2]]''
|ep3=24
|prev3=The Ultimate Weapon
|next3=Transport to Oblivion
|image=Fight or Flee Paradrons enslaved.JPG
|caption="Man, I hate menial labor. Don't they have machines that can do this?"
|title="Fight or Flee"
|production code=700-106
|airdate=[[October 15]], 1986
|written by=[[Tony Cinciripini]] [[Larry Leahy]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''The Decepticons conquer Paradron, a world inhabited by pacifistic Autobots.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Fightorflee Cyclonus Scourge Superion.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|He looks smaller in person.]]

In space, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] are pursuing [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]. Following him into an asteroid field, the two Decepticons are surprised to see the other [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]]. In the firefight, Scourge is damaged, so Cyclonus argues that they charge them. However, the Aerialbots form [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and do further damage to the Decepticons. Cyclonus spots a vortex and decides to take refuge in it. Once they've passed through, they find a planet that looks similar to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] during the [[Golden Age]]. Further analysis is discontinued, however, as they crash hard.

Nursed back to health by the natives, the Decepticons discover that the planet, called [[Paradron]], is inhabited by Autobots. Native [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] greets the two Decepticons, explaining their pacifistic ways, but Cyclonus and Scourge get a little too much [[energon]]... of which the planet has an unlimited supply. Contacting [[Chaar]], they inform [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] of the discovery. Sandstorm calls an assembly, warning the populace that Cyclonus and Scourge are dangerous, but the others ignore his warnings. Soon enough, the Decepticons arrive and declare the planet a part of the [[Decepticon Empire]]. Naturally, the Paradrons don't agree with that, one claiming outright that the planet is a [[democracy]]. Galvatron shoots the dissenter.

[[File:Fightorflee Sandstorm spacecraft.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"Gotta get to Facebook! My crops aren't going to harvest themselves!"]]

Taken to a prison, Sandstorm manages to escape, but [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] follow him. They knock him off a bridge, but Sandstorm flies away and manages to lose the two Decepticons. Heading for a long-abandoned spaceship, Sandstorm manages to power it up and take off, narrowly avoiding [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]].

Making contact with the Autobots, Sandstorm explains that his ancestors left Cybertron during the [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|fourth great war]] to escape the violence. The Autobots, knowing that they can't let the Decepticons have Paradron's energon, head for the planet. By now, the Decepticons have dug in and are using the Paradrons as slave labor. Detecting an incoming Autobot ship, the Decepticons use their [[molecular cannon]] to fire right through one of Paradron's moons, utterly obliterating the ship and the moon. Believing the Autobots destroyed, they carry on with business - but the ship is a decoy, and the Autobots launch their actual invasion from the other moon. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] takes a team to secure the energon, while [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] takes [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], Sandstorm, and [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] to rescue the prisoners.

[[File:Fightorflee Rodimus explosion.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Dreamwave... The New Wave of Comics]]

Breaking through the prison defenses, the Autobots present the Paradrons with weapons, but the latter are reluctant to fight. Sandstorm claims that their forefathers would fight as well. The Autobot leader gives them a simpler choice: fight or flee. Reluctantly, the Paradrons take up arms.

[[File:Fightorflee Ultramagnus Sandstorm bomb.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"Nice scenery." "Yeah, let's waste it! I hate nice things!"]]

Unfortunately, the Decepticons' control over the planet is too firm. Unwilling to let them have Paradron, Rodimus orders Ultra Magnus to destroy the energon core, which will destroy the planet. Sandstorm objects at first, but agrees to the plan when he learns that the Paradrons can live on Cybertron. Using escape pods, the Paradrons flee the planet, while Magnus and Sandstorm head for the core. Planting a time bomb, the two Autobots hightail it out of there. Galvatron sneers at their cowardice, then remembers that Magnus is anything but a coward. Realizing that something is wrong, Galvatron orders the Decepticons to abandon the planet.

From space, the Autobots watch the planet explode. Sandstorm remarks that even in death, it's still beautiful. Rodimus callously says that Cybertron is better anyway.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (3)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (4)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (5)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (6)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (7)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (8)
*[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] (9)
*[[Paradron Medic (G1)|Paradron Medic]] (10)
*[[Playback|Communication Autobot]] (11)
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (20)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] (21)
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (22)
*[[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] (23)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (24)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (25)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (27)
|c2=
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (1)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (2)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (12)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (13)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] (14)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (15)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (16)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (17)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] (18)
*[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (19)
*[[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]] (26)
*[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (28)
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (29)
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (30)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (31)
*[[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (32)
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] (33)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (34)
}}

==Quotes==
'''Scourge:''' "Are they gonna attack us, or blow us away?" 
'''Sandstorm:''' "Welcome to Paradron, friends!" 
'''Scourge:''' "You don't think this is what happens when you get deactivated, do you?" 
'''Cyclonus:''' "Who knows, Scourge, who knows..." 

"Hey! I'm stuck up here!" 
"Everybody's got to be somewhere."
:—A '''Paradronian''' and '''Cyclonus''', after Scourge kicks the former into a wall.

[[File:FightOrFlee Galvatron orders.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
"Before a society can move forward, everyone must agree on the rules. Now kneel!"
:—Come, sons of Paradron, kneel before '''Galvatron'''.

[[File:FightorFlee future autobots.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
"I-is there something wrong with his timing program?"
:—'''Sandstorm''', asking the question we're all thinking about Blurr.

"What do we have here?" 
"I believe it is an Autobot invasion party." 
"I KNOW what it is." 
"Didn't you just ask me what we had here?!" 
"It was just a figure of speech! TURN THE MOLECULAR CANNON ON THEM!!"
:—'''Galvatron''''s high-falutin' fancy talk is just too much for '''Bruticus''' to grasp.

"I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy.... All right, give me the bomb."
:—'''Ultra Magnus''' with one of the greatest lines in the universe.

"Run, you Autobot cowards! Hhh...but he isn't a coward.... Something's wrong here!"
:—'''Galvatron''' mocks Ultra Magnus, then realizes they're in deep [[Slag (slang)|slag]].

"It's as beautiful in death as it was in life." 
"Well, no need to get all mushy. Cybertron's a better place anyway — not so...perfect!"
:—A solemn '''Sandstorm''' witnessing the destruction of his home while '''Rodimus Prime''' callously mocks him for it. Jerk.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
* At the beginning of the episode, Cyclonus's gun sounds like Galvatron's cannon. This occurs throughout the scene, though in some shots it has the typical Decepticon laser sound.
* One shot of Air Raid standing on an asteroid shows him coloured as Superion.
* The other four Aerialbots get a transformation sound as they emerge from behind the asteroid, but they aren't actually transforming.
* [[Surprise Party|Once again]], Cyclonus's face looks different. Here, he has no "beard" and his eyebrows are white (except in certain shots, such as when he and Scourge spot the vortex, where he has the purple beard again).
* Coloring errors:
** Silverbolt has Superion's color scheme (red arms, dark gray head) just before he transforms into Superion's torso.
** When Scourge delivers his line "The same goes for me..." as Cyclonus finishes drinking from the energon fountain, Cyclonus has Sandstorm's color scheme. Sandstorm himself is also colored entirely orange during this moment.
** The optic visor of one of the muttering Paradronians flashes from cream to blue and back as he steps forward.
** "Too bad we didn't get to bump him around more" - Brawl's mouthplate changes from the correct deep orange to the same yellow as his eyeband. Razorclaw's visor is colored the darker yellow of his helmet instead of the correct lighter yellow.
** When Razorclaw and Brawl dive into the gorge, Razorclaw's black bits (arms, legs) are light gray.
** When they land a few shots later, Razorclaw still has light gray arms and legs; Brawl has white hands and lots of light gray in places it shouldn't be.
** Sandstorm's helmet is light gray instead of black as he gets his escape ship operational.
***And again as he starts to tell Paradron's history.
** "Make the slaves work faster!" - Blitzwing's helmet is purple instead of yellow.
** Rodimus's gun is light gray instead of black as he takes out the security camera.
** When Rodimus opens the door to the prison, Sky Lynx's upper portion is colored like this lower portion.
** When Rodimus tells Sandstorm to give the Paradrons the weapons, his spoiler is all-yellow. (It should be orange in the middle.)
** Scrapper and Long Haul are colored in Sweep-esque shades of blue as Galvatron gives the order to charge.
** When Magnus, Wheelie, and Blurr are ambushed, a shot panning across a group of Decepticons gives us Long Haul in [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|a bizarre blue-and-orange color scheme]], previously seen in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]", which persists throughout this scene. Also present are Soundwave with a white cannon, no mouthplate and two fuzzy dots for eyes, Scrapper in a Predacon color scheme, and Galvatron with a white cannon.
[[File:ParadronGenerics.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
[[File:FightorFlee Paradron communicator.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
* The Paradronians are a peculiar lot. Often they're portrayed as extremely generic robots across the board, with optic visors, mouthplates, and utterly generic bodies. And then once in a while, a highly detailed guy like the [[Playback|communication Autobot]] will turn up in their midst.
** Likewise, their colors change around a lot. In some shots they're all in an off-white color scheme, while in other shots of the same groups, they're more colorful - most notable as an all-cream group aboard an escape ship changes to multiple colors in the following shot.
** The Paradronians' Autobot logos are drawn/colored inconsistently throughout the episode. Some are missing areas of the symbol, others are colored only halfway, and others are drawn in rather poorly (especially during the assembly). In most group shots, they're missing entirely (only to show up when we get a close-up).
* As Cyclonus draws his weapon and notes that the Paradronians are not armed, the Decepticon brand usually seen on his chest is missing; meanwhile, Scourge's head seems to have sunk into his shoulders.
* When Cyclonus and Scourge contact Chaar, [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] turns around and speaks - in [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]'s voice! He even uses Shrapnel's unique repetition of dialogue, dialogue.
* When Cyclonus and Scourge plot against the Paradronians during Sandstorm's assembly, [[Scale|Scourge is drawn way shorter than Cyclonus.]]
* Scourge is drawn in the head-sticking-up version of his hovercraft mode as he transforms in the auditorium.
* Scourge returns to [[robot mode]] without any transformation sound.
* The Decepticons shown landing on the stage with Galvatron all appear to be generic. (Their color schemes bear some resemblance to [[Krok (G1)|Krok]], [[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]], [[Horri-Bull (G1)|Horri-Bull]], [[Submarauder (G1)|Submarauder]], [[Roadgrabber]], and [[Cloudburst]], though almost none of those characters had yet been created!)
* When the Decepticons land on Paradron, Soundwave is missing all his cassette player buttons.
* Galvatron's chin is darker than the rest of his face in this episode.
* A generic asks "What about Sandstorm?" His faceplate is woobering both before and after he speaks.
* Sandstorm is shown to have escaped through a barred window that's much, much smaller than he is.
[[File:FightorFlee RazorclawBrawl.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
* As Razorclaw and Brawl chase Sandstorm, one shot of Brawl shows a starry night sky, but the rest show a blue, Earth-like sky.
* Divebomb never actually fires on Sandstorm; his eyes flash once, and then in the next shot we see some missiles flying at the launch site. No visual of him firing; no firing sound effects.
* Divebomb's eagle mode is consistently drawn with his robot legs not folded up correctly, leaving them trailing behind him. As he goes back into robot mode, the transformation sound is cut off at the end.
* When Bruticus says, "I believe it is an Autobot invasion party," Galvatron mouths the line simultaneously. Bruticus's mouthplate is off-center, revealing the same red as his optics beneath it, and it flashes out a couple of times as he speaks.
* As Rodimus addresses the Autobots on Paradron's moon, a whole host of goofs can be spotted:
** The late [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] are in the crowd. Ratchet's headcrest is white instead of gray.
** Hot Spot is two shades of gray with a helmet in two shades of blue. He should be almost entirely light blue.
** Streetwise(?) is colored like Red Alert.
** Groove's head is light blue instead of black, and his body appears to be orange.
** Sunstreaker's shoulders and back are in the crowd, but not his head; he's got some light blue that shouldn't be there.
** Springer, or something like him, is colored orange instead of green.
* When Rodimus gives the ultimatum for the Paradronians to "Fight...or flee!", and the slaves kneel to pick up weapons off of the floor... the weapons aren't there! They appear in the slaves' hands as they take them up - making it appear as if they're plucking weapons from thin air.
* Also, when Rodimus gives the order, his left shoulder is missing its white detailing.
* The mis-colored Long Haul fires a rocket at a stand labeled, "NEWS PAPEP."
* When Rodimus gets the transmission from Ultra Magnus, his head crest is yellow, then lined incorrectly, then ''missing'' all lines in subsequent shots.
* When Wheelie finds the door in the floor, the lines around Magnus's eyes are too thick (like he's wearing mascara!).
* Sandstorm's size relative to the other Autobots varies drastically: When interrogated, he looks huge; when descending the steps to the core chamber, he's half the size of Ultra Magnus; when handing Magnus the bomb, they're roughly the same size.
* When Sandstorm and Magnus duck from the missile, the top of Magnus's back is red instead of (the now-established) grey.
* Galvatron fires on Magnus and Sandstorm with no sound effect.
* During his "but he isn't a coward" line, Galvatron's chin is back to being the same color as the rest of his face.
* While Rodimus counts down to Paradron's destruction, Sandstorm and Ultra Magnus get transformation sound effects as they leap down into the shot. Did they drive all the way to the moon?
* As Rodimus counts down the final seconds of the bomb, his head crest is missing its lines.
* Galvatron has a Predacon color scheme as he takes off from the collapsing tower.
* Paradron starts to explode - then the shot changes, and the planet is gone! The explosion is still there, but there's no trace of the planet's globe.
* As the Autobots watch the explosion, Magnus's Autobot logo is colored solid blue.

===Continuity errors===
[[File:FightOrFlee Molecular Cannon.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|"I will not be deprived of this fun! Even if it means being in two places at once!"]]
* Although this episode gives Sandstorm's origin, he first appeared in "[[Starscream's Ghost]]". [[Starscream's Brigade|Gee, that's ''never'' happened before.]] [[To sell toys|Wonder why]]? Having said that, the episode features ''none'' of the traditional season 3 stock music used in surrounding episodes, possibly implying that it was actually to have been animated earlier in the season.
* Bruticus's role in this episode is utterly bizarre; it is tempting to assume that Cyclonus was supposed to be scripted in his place:
** He's shown hanging out with Galvatron in a control center, acting as Galvatron's right hand man.
** He's depicted as only slightly taller than Galvatron.
** He is noticeably eloquent, speaking in full, normal sentences, in his otherwise normal voice.
** His components are seen separately from him throughout - most notably, we see him in the control room, then see Brawl (Bruticus's leg) firing the molecular cannon, then immediately cut back to Bruticus in the control room.
* [[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5|Despite being banished by Galvatron earlier]], [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] can be seen among Galvatron's troops when he orders them to make the slaves work faster.
* Flying Autobots:
** The Autobots burst out of the moon and fly down to Paradron's surface, each trailing rocket exhaust.
* Sandstorm claims his ancestors left during the fourth great war. According to "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]", the [[Great War (G1)|current war]] is the ''Third'' Cybertronian War. The parsing of the terminology does leave some leeway, though.
* Ultra Magnus gives a five-minute countdown after setting the bomb. Not the usual ''astro''-minutes, just minutes.

===Continuity notes===
[[File:ParadronMedicCartoon1.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
* The [[Paradron Medic (G1)|Paradron Medic]]s are basically a recycled version of [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]'s character model.
* Gadgets and powers:
** Sandstorm unveils a hidden wrist cutter.
** [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]] has the same hidden camera gimmick in his [[beast mode]]'s forehead as [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]].
* Paradron would appear in [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s [[Transformers: Micromasters|''Micromasters'' comic]] and be the location of [[Golden Disk (Paradron)|an important plot device]].

===Real-world references===
* ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects - all from Divebomb's one scene:
** [[TIE Fighter]] roar as he first appears, closing in on Sandstorm...
** [[Death Star]] superlaser as he climbs to attack...
** ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine roar as he loops around...
** [[X-wing Fighter|X-Wing]] whine as he dives toward the ship...
** and [[Darth Vader]] TIE Fighter roar as he closes in.

===Trivia===
[[File:Fight-or-flee-springer-magnus-rodimus-sandstorm.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1|Well, no need to get all GEEWUNny. Rodimus Prime's a better leader, anyway. Not so... perfect!]]
* At one point, this episode went by the preliminary title of "Fight or Die". As originally scripted, the episode featured an additional plot line that involved Galvatron forcing a Paradronian scientist to build huge [[planetary engine]]s ("ion thrusters", per the script) on the planet's surface, in order to transform it into a mobile battle fortress.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/5c6b78d4b5dc1d27/ Notes on "Fight or Flee" script at alt.toys.transformers]</ref>
* Some interesting generics appear for a split second during Sandstorm's story: Blitzwing colored like Fireflight, Ramjet colored as Air Raid, and an all-black Dirge.
* Rodimus Prime destroys an entire planet rather than let the Decepticons have it, and isn't too kind to Sandstorm as he mourns its loss. And people wonder why so many prefer [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]!

===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' '''Wenn du nicht kämpfst, wirst du sterben!''' (''If you don't fight, you're going to die!'')
:*''Title (Generation 2 dub):'' '''Eine vollkommene Welt''' (''A perfect World'')
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' 戦いか死か!? (''Tatakai ka Shi ka!?'', "Fight or Death!?")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 6]], [[1987]]

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1989 — ''Transformers'' — The Big Broadcast of 2006 / Fight or Flee ([[Tempo Video]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1989 — ''Transformers'' — Fight or Flee / Call of the Primitives (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1990 — The Action Adventure Collection IV (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Starscream's Ghost / Fight or Flee (Tempo Video)
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 5: Series 3.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)

==References==
{{reflist}}
==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/fight_or_flee.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

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Talk:Quintesson

2016-01-12T16:21:49Z

Takeshi357:

I feel like there needs to be a "Quintesson (faction)" page in addition to a page discussing their race and their 120 body types. (I exaggerate... but not by much.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

:I can get behind that, sort of. Well, I'd leave this as the Faction and then do a "Types of Quintessons" page or something similar. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Honestly I think "types of quints" would probably make more sense just as a sub section here, so I started it as so, feel free to delete or move it if others feel otherwise. '''Question:''' The two pics I uploaded are refered to in the TFU entry as Guard and Gatekeepr, but I've seen them named elsewhere as Baliff and Executioner, but with no official source listed for thos tittles. Does anyone know if those are deffinately official and where they're from, off hand? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

:IIRC, the baliff designation comes from the 'The Ultimate Guide style' additions someone was making last year. Baliff isn't from the original TFU, and it's not from MtMtE, and I'm pretty sure it's not from TUG. So unless it's from, like, the original movie script of Dery's character models... it's probably not official. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

::Also, I think you're in denial about the number of types of Quintessons there are. I'm pretty sure there's at least ten... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh, I'm sure there are a ton more that I listed, I just did the immediately obvious ones to start. Yeah, Deary must have given them a TON of quint designs or just went back to the well almost every time the show called for quints, as there are a TON of variations. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, I think "bailiff" and "executioner" were my doing. More suitable names for the types based on what they actually did in the movie, I thought. Didn't realise they'd, uh, sunk in like that. - (Chris McFeely, here, who can't seem to stay logged in for more than a page.)
:::McFeely! Just the man I wanted to pin to the wall!
:::Quint ships, quint body types... the original scripts... refered to how? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Holy thingie! IDW's new "The Ark" book uses my "Bailiff," "Executioner" and "Inquisitor" terms. Clearly someone was checking up on the Quints on Wikipedia... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:15, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm torn between irritation- and elation that we'll have something official to call them.
::::At least they didn't steal from Wikipedia to canonize something ''wrong''. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm particularly happy to see that it's resulted in their using the ''right'' names for the Quintessons' faces, instead of the Ultimate Guide ones. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:53, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::And these are?
::::::And on the original subject... I'm really wary of splitting this page with a "types of Quintessons" other page. It seems... like an utterly unnecessary link-jump. "Types of Quints" would, I think, be best served as we have it now... and under each type, make sure to link to the named examples of said types, like Ghyrik and Sevax. Preferably in list form, methinks. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::::As mentioned in the article, they're the Faces of Death (skull-face, duh), Bitterness (fat-faced, turban-headed face), Doubt (spiky "old woman" face), Laughter (moustachioed starfish-head) and Rage (screaming, red-crested one). These were names given to the faces in a Comics Bom-Bom article (if memory serves?) based on the descriptions given for each of the faces in the script, which were, specifically, "smiling, angry, grimacing and suspicious." ''Not'' "War, Wrath, Judgement and Wisdom." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, both face-name sets are official... and something we REALLY ought to have illustrated cleanly on this page. Have the full-on view of the face on the left, then the two type-names bullet-pointed to the right ...
* Bitterness (Character model)
* Wisdom (Ultimate Guide)
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

::Mmn. I'd probably substitute the latter term for "Stupid made-up name Simon Furman pulled out of his butt because he didn't do enough research," but there we are. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:52, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

:I'd actually reccomend sticking the Ultimate Guide names in a trivia note. They're so much... ''squishier'' than the Bon-bon terms. They don't ''mean'' anything. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. That. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:13, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I'd recommend not. Personal feelings aside, the UG names are far more visible and ARE official. This contradiction of sources is frankly better addressed right up front rather than shuffling it off to the side. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Unfortunately, I have to agree with Siph. Oh if only Furman didn't suck... --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 01:03, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

::::UG names, with Bom-Bom explanations of their meanings? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::...''no'', just list them both, as illustrated above, because they are both official names for the faces. Simple, clean, free of playing favorites, and not pointlessly confusing the issue. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I'm with Siph here. Both names are equally official. Judgement calls over wich are more evocative comes down to personal taste. Equal weight for both works best. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Faction symbol ==

I am a big supporter of our humorous picture captions, so I'm surprised to be posting this, but I think the main one here *might* actually be a detriment. When the subject of a picture is obvious, which is most cases, the humerous captions are great, but the Quintesson faction symbol used for the main pic here is really pretty obscure. I can easily imagine someone comming across this page and not knowing what the heck that image is or where it comes from. Some sort of explanitory caption for that image would be rather useful I think. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:08, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
: Besides, Nyeh comes BEFORE the He-Man! Duhhh! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

==Japanese Names==
Acourding to some guy's translation of the Generations and First Series Complete books, most the Quintesson types have different names than what the scripts/marvel/wherever those names are from.

"Quintessa Kuintessa (Presented in anime/manga, no toys
(except Sharktron))
GENERATIONS DESIGNATION KANA (TRANSLATION)
FIRST SERIES COMPLETE DESIG. KANA (TRANSLATION)
(DESCRIPTION)

Quintessa Seijin ''seijin ("Quintessan")
Five Face Type [FIVE FACE]taipu
(This is the five-faced kind seen in the movie, and many episodes.)

Quintessa Baishinin ''baishinin (Quintessa "Juror")
Saibankan Type Saibankan Taipu ("Juror" Type)
(This is the single-faced long-headed kind seen in the movie and some episodes.)

-- --
Shoutan Type Shoutan Taipu ("Merchant" Type)
(This is the single-faced long-headed kind seen in one episode.)
::What sets these two apart again? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
-- --
Kagakusha Type Kagakusha Taipu ("Scientist" Type)
(This is the single-faced bulbous-headed kind seen in some episodes.)

-- --
??? ???
(This is the three-faced kind seen in one episode.)

-- --
Mara Ar-Uta Mara•Aruta
(This is the single-faced "wizard" kind seen in one episode.)

Quintessa no Monban ''nomonban (Quintessa's "Gate Watcher")
-- --
(This is the bi-pedal floating executioner kind seen in the movie and some episodes.)

Quintessa no Rouban ''norouban (Quintessa's "Jailer")
Eihei Eihei ("Guard")
(This is the bi-pedal spear-weilding non-floating kind seen in the movie and some episodes.)

== Primus and the Quintessons sittin' in a tree... ==

The Primus article mentions in passing that the Universe comics attempted to retcon together the Primus origin/multiversal necessity and the Quintesson origin from the toon. I never got those books so I wondering if someone could fill in the details under the "Universe" entry here?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:19, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I could take a stab at it when I get back on Tuesday.... but if you want to do it before than I'd be happy to run cleanup. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::If I had the books I'd be typing already. ;) I take it you're heading to Botcon? Me too. If so, hope to see you there.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Nah, up north for my Birthday with my family!
:::Lousy timing isn't it? I could have completely rearranged the wiki while David was gone...-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Ah well, I suppose the Qunits will have to wait. I mean it's not Botcon, but being born is something to celebrate too I guess. ;P Have fun and Happy early B-day--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 21:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Quintessons as an Allegory for Toy Executives? ==

I just realized something after listening to my prof go on about allegories (extended metaphors used throughout an entire text). Maybe the Quintessons were a metaphorical way for the fiction writers to describe Hasbro and Takara executives.

Some similarities I've noticed include that both created the Transformers and both kill off various Transformers for reasons that may or may not make any sense in context with the rest of the fiction (the Quints in their weird sense of "justice", the execs To Sell Toys). Both also see Transformers as consumer goods (with the Quints killing off the Mutants in IDW's Beast Wars: The Gathering because they are "unmarketable products") and have no qualms about destroying characters, factions, storylines, etc. in pursuit of the allmighty dollar (or galactic credit, or whatever the hell Quints use).

Anyone else notice this trend, or is this just the rantings of a coffee-deprived English major? --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 14:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:Probably the later, but an interesting idea nonetheless. At one point after a gender-focused anthropology class I thought it quite "interesting" that the Decepticons tended to favor long phalic canon weapons, while the autobots icon was spherical womb-like and life giving. Try explaining that observation and not coming off odd.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::Zac... 'Matrix' ''means'' 'womb/mother,' the word dates from ancient Egypt.
::Also I think that the Quints as Hasbro execs it a valid reading... but I think it rests almost entirely in aspects added to the fiction post-1987. In their original conception they are roman emperors (TF:TM) and unchecked, untemptered capitalism (Season 3.) The recurring riff about Quints not understanding complex emotions appears to be a specific attack on the 'Greed is Good' decade (80's,) arguing that the Quints have in effect become slaves to their own greed- eternally playing catch-up to try and recoup/make good their losses. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I hate to admit this, but I've only seen TF:TM once, and I've never seen any Season 3 eps. But hey, Quintessons as general social criticism works just as well as direct allegories. The same basic message is put across -- Transformers are more than just toys to be sold. Good point Derik. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 02:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::::The Quint and Junkion sections of TF:TM are right out of Jonathan Swift, so... yeah. -Derik 05:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

== The other race? ==

While I was reading [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues#Generation_One]] I noticed something, the female Autobots work for the Quintessons, now I remember that in the Quintessson part of the MTMTE profile book 8 from Dreamwave a text mentions that there are rumours of the Quintessons having another secrete group of warriors on Quintessa besides the Sharkticons and Allicons. Could it be that that was a bit of foreshadowing to the Fembot arc and actually meant the Female Autobots?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:19, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
:That was exactly it, yes. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:22, 21 September 2009 (EDT)
::Really awesome, and it only took a couple of years for me to figure that out myself I'm a god damn genius! [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:00, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

== Judge faces ==

Is there a reason some of the names are in bold and some are not? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:25, 13 November 2009 (EST)
::Okay, I unbolded (is that even a real term?) the second names on all of the Judge faces. I THINK that was the original intent of the bold/not bold text. If I was wrong, please let me know. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:14, 21 November 2009 (EST)

== 'Absolute cowards' ==

id like to dispute this line in the opening paragraph. the quintessons are extremely pragmatic and incapable of fighting, so if they are in danger they retreat but they showed little to no fear in most circumstances, and when they did is was equal or less than youd expect of most characters in their situation. in five faces of darkness when one fell into the sharkticon tank the others stated that he was to die as well, in response the doomed quint not only is utterly calm, and even praised their decision to let him die. so, do you think this line should stay? {{unsigned|Decay|19:39, November 15, 2010 (EST)}}
:That is a very good observation. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:52, 15 November 2010 (EST)

== Organic or Mechanical ==
Since there's currently been some editing on the subject, I figured I would point out that Wreckers Finale Part 2 mentions Quintessons having both "technological and organic locomotion". This would suggest that even if their origin was wholy mechanical as [[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)]] states, that they have since become cyborgs. - [[User:Tindalos|Tindalos]] 16:58, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

== Toys? ==

Where there ever any Quintesson toys? I'm talking about ones from G1, not Alpha Q.
:Not official Hasbro/Takara-Tomy. There have been recent third party productions. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:42, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

== Quintus Prime ==

Should we have a bit in the section for the Alligned contiunuity Quints on their creation by Quintus Prime? I don't know the details (and, given the hefty price tag on the Covenant of Primus, probably never will), so I don't know if there's any more detail gone into than "Quintus Prime made the Quintessons, that's where they came from, moving on now". Also, in the G1 cartoon, the Quintessons made the Transformers. Now in the Alligned books, a Transformer made the Quintessons. Is the Alligned continuity Soviet Russia? --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] ([[User talk:Nemesis Primal|talk]]) 00:50, 28 April 2014 (EDT)
:That totally needs to be put in there by someone who owns a copy of the Covenant of Primus. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 03:09, 28 April 2014 (EDT)

== AoE ==

They don't actually appear and aren't mentioned by name, but would anyone agree they are referenced?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 01:19, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
:I wouldn't say so until it's more explicit. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 02:46, 27 June 2014 (EDT)

== Concepts ==

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/more-floro-dery-transformers-concept-art-quintessons-miniunicron/31524/ Is this important?

== Plural ==

So, is the plural form of "Quintesson" "Quintesson" or "Quintessons"? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 11:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)

Talk:Two Megatrons!

2016-01-12T12:03:01Z

Takeshi357:

I still disagree that a Straxus-Galvatron ever existed. Straxus-Megatron dies and is never mentioned again nor is it ever hinted at that he is resurrected. My explanation for Galvatron being able to remember the events in Time Wars from back when he was Megatron is that it was actually the real Megatron in his memories allied alongside his real future self but somehow the real Megatron that became this Galvatron allied himself with Straxus-Megatron in this reality and not really his past self as he believes. There is nothing to indicate that the Megatron in Galvatron's memories is Straxus-Megatron. It really is the simplest explanation and requires very little being made up (whereas Straxus-Galvatron involves making a whole lot of stuff up to make it fit with no evidence for it in the comics to back it up). The reality that Galvatron remembers (where Galvatron kills everyone else) has little bearing on the main reality so even though the real Megatron participating in Time Wars does change events in the comics still, Galvatron winning still screws up events anyway so the reality in Galvatron's memories is probably a lot more different than the reality we do see (and involves no re-writing of the main continuity). But to confuse things still, if the future Galvatron did kill everyone then how did the '86 movie happen for Megatron to become Galvatron who then travels back in time for Target: 2006 and Fallen Angel? Another headache!

Also, I've seen some comic's pages on the wiki that link Megatron (who we know is revealed to be actually Straxus) to G1 Megatron instead of Straxus. Is this an error or intentional? I know Megatron was written to be the real Megatron originally before Mind Games/Two Megatrons was written but because of this reveal, I find it wrong to say that Straxus-Megatron is G1 Megatron.

[[Special:Contributions/95.148.9.124|95.148.9.124]] 19:16, 8 January 2010 (EST)

:There's never going to be any firm settlement of this matter because outside of this story the Straxus-Megatron was never explicitly identified and previously everything had been written on the assumption Megatron was the real thing. I don't find it at all difficult to assume there are timelines where the Straxus-Megatron was never exposed and went on to become Galvatron and the only thing that has to be accounted for is what happened to the original Megatron.
:Galvatron's memories in Time Wars are suspect because the increasing number of paradoxes and the damage to his head are combining to push his sanity over the edge, so his "memory" of killing everyone is probably just a product of all this. Since Time Wars explicitly establishes that the timeline isn't set in stone, everything that comes afterwards doesn't necessarily impact on what was implied before. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 14:11, 25 May 2011 (EDT)