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Talk:Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon

2015-11-25T04:19:23Z

TheRedDouglas: /* Note on M.A.A.B.s or M.A.R.B.s */

== Move? ==

Should this maybe be at "The Fecund Moon"?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:04, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
:I believe it's at this title for now, 'cause the title's an end-of-issue spoilery one, to avoid spoilers in the Recent Changes. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:30, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
::What Jalaguy said, but ultimately it should be "Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon". There's no "Part" in the title, but the rest IS part of the title. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:46, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

==Ransack==
I'm thinking it's either noteworthy, an error or a retcon that Ransack appears to have left Cybertron since RID #3, right? The Decepticons there haven't been shown to be able to get offworld have they? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:45, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

: I agree at the very least it's Noteworthy. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 20:12, 3 June 2013 (EDT)

=="Knock-Offs"==
Is this... you know... a slur? It seems like one in context. Or at least a horribly outdated and now kind of inappropriate term, like "Orientals" or "Negroes" [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:48, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
:The "4m years ago/thinks he's being progressive" line suggests the latter, I think. (Which makes you wonder exactly how horrendous the prevailing terminology WAS if that was the *preferred* term for a notable time!) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:37, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
::They prefer "third-party"; it makes them sound more legitimate. -[[User:LV|LV]] 10:40, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

== Note on M.A.A.B.s or M.A.R.B.s ==

The term "British" encompasses England, Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Ireland. So using the term "British accent" presents some problems in terms of accuracy.

More to the point though, joke doesn't work in Scottish and Irish varieties of English which don't soften or drop 'r' sounds after a vowel. And since James Roberts speaks with an English accent I figured it was best to clarify that point.

(There are parts of England whose regional accents don't drop or soften the 'r' after a vowel, though as far as I know it's found in most English accents and Roberts definitely does that when he speaks.)

((God that sounds pedantic...but I figured I might as well leave a note up if people were puzzled over the change.))

Talk:Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon

2015-11-25T04:04:39Z

TheRedDouglas: /* Note on M.A.A.B.s or M.A.R.B.s */ new section

Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon

2015-11-25T03:27:53Z

TheRedDouglas:

{{Comicstory
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|prev=The Gloaming
|next=Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus
|caption=''Damn you for ruining our class photo!''
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|title="Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[May 29]], [[2013]]
|coverdate=May 2013
|story by=[[James Roberts]]
|art by=[[Alex Milne]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|editorial assistants=[[Toni Korde]] and [[Mariel Romero]]
|editor=[[John Barber]]
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|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2013)]]
}}
'''Everything has built to this! As Rodimus leads the ''Lost Light'' crew on a quest straight out of Cybertronian myth, old enemies reappear, old friends return, and new life waits to be born...'''

==Synopsis==
''Somewhere, in a darkened room, Rodimus relates the grim tale of recent events to an unseen listener...''

[[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] verifies the [[death clock]]'s scan of [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]], sadly confirming that the little 'bot has a fatal case of [[cybercrosis]], brought about by nothing more than old age, which will kill him in just over three days. As the medic details the stages of the disease, including blindness, paralysis, and memory loss, Tailgate flees the medibay in a panic, racing back to his quarters, where he explains his news to [[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]]. Cyclonus stoically advises Tailgate to make his peace and face death boldly, but then leaves the room in silence, and stops in the hallway to observe his reflection... which he almost punches in a sudden, furious rage, only to stop and instead tear gouges in his own face with his claws.

Examining security footage to determine what has become of the missing [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]], [[Ambulon (G1)|Ambulon]], and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] observe as the comatose Magnus suddenly sits bolt upright with impossible speed and appears to ''float'' to the shuttle bay. [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] reports that the signal from the shuttle Magnus left in has been detected, and the ''[[Lost Light]]'' sets course after it, soon finding that it leads through a colossal wormhole. Rodimus informs the crew that the ship will be going through the portal, giving anyone who wishes the option not to come, but nobody takes it. The ship enters the portal, and what lurks on the other side proves beyond imagining: the lost satellite of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], alleged home to the answer to every question, found at last.

As Rodimus waits in his quarters, morosely examining unread messages from Ultra Magnus on his datapad, [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] enters to report his preliminary findings: a lifesign scan, amazingly, suggests the moon is home to a billion lifeforms. Rodimus handpicks a small team to join him on the first expedition to the moon, confidentially informing them that all he really wants to do is find out what became of Ultra Magnus: [[Rung (G1)|Rung]] (to fill Magnus's role and tell him things he doesn't want to hear); [[Brainstorm]]; [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] (in case there's any fighting to be done, though Whirl suspects it's positive discrimination); [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (who [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] urges to search the moon for a solution to his lost memories); Ratchet; and Cyclonus, for his familiarity with the creation myth that Luna 1 is part of. Cyclonus agrees to come only on the condition that Tailgate gets to accompany them, desiring to give his tiny friend a great experience before his death, but he cautions Tailgate to disabuse himself of the notion that the moon may hold a cure to his condition. [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] begs to come along, citing his metallurgical skills, but Rodimus refuses, accusing him of having abandoned that function to be a bartender.

Leaving the ''Lost Light'' under the stewardship of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], the Autobots head down to the moon and deploy in [[Mobile Autobot Repair Bay|M.A.R.B.]]s. They soon discover Magnus's shuttle, smashed open from the outside-in, but when Rodimus hops off the M.A.R.B. to examine it, his feet touching the moon's surface for the first time, the incredible happens: the entire moon lights up, as a billion [[spark]]s suddenly flare to life all over its surface. Luna 1, it transpires, is a gigantic "[[hot spot]]", a field where sparks are born, that has been fertilized after an ages-long wait when Rodimus touched it. As Rodimus wonders if the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-half he is carrying could have been responsible, the other Transformers look in wonder on the field, the like of which Chromedome remarks had mostly ceased to be by his lifetime, since he was "constructed cold". Tailgate has heard this term thrown around a lot without understanding it, and the others explain that Chromedome was created using the energy from an extant spark, as opposed to "forged", born in a hot spot (which Whirl is eager to point out ''he'' was). Cyclonus calls the group's attention to a spark glowing green, which Brainstorm recognizes as a "superspark"—a vanishingly rare, insanely powerful [[Point One Percenter]]—and immediately begins excavating it over Perceptor's horrified protestations. Everyone discusses whether or not this is the right thing to do, but moral debates are promptly tabled by an explosive, unexpected arrival: a platoon of Decepticons led by [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]], who descend from the sky, weapons blazing, decrying Rodimus's team as trespassers!

Back on the ''Lost Light'', the transmission from Rodimus's team is abruptly cut off, but Blaster and Maximus aren't sure if it's the moon or the ship that's being isolated. Down in the ship's [[oil]] reservoir, Skids is spending some time alone with this thoughts when suddenly, a familiar phrase gurgles out of the darkness: "Nineteen eighty-four". A platoon of the [[Legislator|giant golden warrior robots]] he last saw just before joining the ''Lost Light'' crew bursts out of the reservoir's black depths, chanting their familiar refrain... but that's not all. More of the robots appear all across the ship: in [[Swerve's]], which he has decided to close down; on the bridge; and everywhere in-between, these ones brandishing huge guns and declaring "Seventeen twenty-one".

''Rodimus pauses in his story, reflecting on how many impossible things happened in one day, and realizes he has not even asked the name of his mystery listener. The older bot introduces himself as "Ambus"...''

On Luna 1, as Rodimus's team flees the Decepticon attack, Ratchet's M.A.R.B. is hit and explodes, throwing the medic to the ground. A figure appears before the fallen Ratchet and offers its hand... and Ratchet looks up to see [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]] looming over him!

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==Quotes==
"You're visiting Luna 1 for the '''experience''', nothing else. This can't be about finding a '''cure.'''" 
"'Course not! 'Course it can't. ...'''why''' can't it?" 
"It just '''can't.'''" 
"Right. Fine. So I'm not allowed to '''hope.'''" 
"Listen to me. <big>'''Never. Hope.'''</big> Hope is a '''lie.'''"
:—'''Cyclonus''' and '''Tailgate'''

"Time to break out the '''[[Mobile Anti-Assault Battlesuit|M.A.A.B.]]s''' and play 'Hunt the Crewmember.'" 
"Wait—'''M.A.R.B.s''' or '''M.A.A.B.s'''"? 
"'M.A.A.B.s or M.A.A.B.s?' What?" 
"'''M'''obile '''A'''utobot '''R'''epair '''B'''ay, or '''M'''obile '''A'''nti-'''A'''ssault '''B'''attlesuit?" 
"The ones that turn into—the '''cool ones.''' The battlesuits." 
"Right. We don't have any of those."
:—'''Rodimus''' and '''Brainstorm'''

'''Brainstorm:''' "I was '''anti-apartheid.''' Went on the marches and everything. 'Equal rights for '''knock-offs!''''" 
'''Tailgate:''' "Eh?" 
'''Chromedome:''' "Ignore him—he thinks it's four million years ago and he's being '''progressive.'''"

"What are you—" 
"'''Harvesting''' it." 
"No, because harvesting takes '''skill'''. And '''patience.''' And '''time.''' You can't just—you can't just do '''precisely what you're doing now...!" 
:—'''Perceptor''' and '''Brainstorm'''

"Where are you going to put [the spark], Brainstorm? In your '''briefcase?'''" 
"I '''wasn't''', but if I '''did'''... oh, man. You've just '''blown my mind.'''"
:—'''Rodimus''' and '''Brainstorm

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Popular-but-unseen [[Spoke]] and [[Lockstock]], mentioned in issues [[Before & After|#12]] and [[The Gloaming|#16]], get another name-drop in this issue, where it turns out they're just as well-liked by the ship's medibot—the [[Diagnostic Drone]] seen floating around the ship in multiple past issues (perhaps most prominently [[Rules of Disengagement (issue)|issue #7]])—as they are by their crewmates.
*Rodimus likens himself, Magnus and Drift to [[Rossum's Trinity]], the principle of Transformer biology introduced in [[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|issue #3]].
*Following last issue's surprise ending, Tailgate's looming death is revealed to be the result of [[cybercrosis]], a rotting disease first mentioned in [[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|the ''More than Meets the Eye'' 2012 annual]]. For a dash of added irony, Tailgate was heard to hope in issue #12 that a cure for the disease had ''not'' been found, when expressing dislike of Dominus Ambus's do-goodery.
*Ratchet notes that the cybercrosis has likely curdled Tailgate's [[innermost energon]], which is sure to be the reason it appeared a sickly green color when Tailgate was seen pouring some out in issue #12, compared to the traditional pink-purple of everyone else's in that same issue. It is also pointed out that Tailgate's [[transformation cog]] likely no longer works, which he has not noticed because he hasn't transformed in so long; in fact, we've never seen him ''successfully'' transform at all through the run of the series, as when he last attempted it in [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|issue #2]] he got stuck halfway.
*Ratchet also comments on Tailgate's 'full life', as everybody except Cyclonus still believes he's extremely well-read and accomplished.
*It's not immediately clear what Rung might be referring to when he says he has a sense of ''déjà vu'' at the sight of the portal, but it's appropriate that he would be the one to feel it, as past issues have established him as a "historical constant" who has been around a ''long'' time and been present for nearly every major event in Cybertron history.
*The portal looks a heckuva lot like the one Skids and the gold robots flew out of all the way back in issue #2.
*Having lost his arm in [[Under Cold Blue Stars|issue #15]], Chromedome is seen with a skeletal replacement on page 7 like that worn by Rodimus in issue #3, after he lost his own limbs. It has been built back up to a proper arm by page 10.
*Fortress Maximus appears to be back in everyone's good graces, as he's seen with the group listening to Rodimus' opt-out speech, and is left in charge of the ''Lost Light'' when Rodimus travels to Luna 1.
*Luna 1! This famous missing satellite of Cybertron's has been regularly mentioned across both ''More than Meets the Eye'' and ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' since its legend was introduced in ''[[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime]]''. Reference is made to the quests that Swerve and Rodimus both undertook for it, which were originally commented on in issue [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|#1]] and the 2012 annual, respectively (though it's not clear if they were both on the ''same'' moonquest or not).
*Callbacks are made to the deaths of [[Polaris]] and [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] (both from issue #2), [[Animus]] (issue #3) and [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] (issue #15) .
*The origin of Luna 1's nickname, "The Seething Moon", is revealed, as it is "seething" with unborn life. We got our first hint toward the sheer scope of what we see here back in [[Remembrance Day|issue #14]], when we saw [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]'s spark emerge from Luna 2. That story saw Overlord's spark denoted as a "Point One Percenter" by its green coloration, which is how the Autobots identify another this issue.
*We get a clear explanation for terminology we've been hearing since ''[[Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory]]'': [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|"Forged"]] Transformers are those whose sparks were grown naturally from the metal of Cybertron or one of its moons, while Transformers [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|"constructed cold"]] were created using energy from another's spark. This process, in turn, is revealed to be another name for spark splicing, a population-enhancement program introduced by [[Nova Prime]], mentioned in [[Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|issue #11]].
*Skids is moping around in the ship's oil reservoir, where he was also seen ruminating in [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]].
*The Decepticons who attack Rodimus's team are Lockdown's "[[Titan Hunters]]" from ''[[The Reluctant Specialist|Spotlight: Trailcutter]]''. Ransack was not seen among the group in that issue; his presence here marks the first time all four [[Insecticon (G1)|Deluxe Insecticons]] have appeared together in IDW continuity. He was last seen in ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Stick Together|issue #3]], implying that he somehow left Cybertron in the interim.
*From the name he provides and his moustachioed visage, Rodimus's mysterious listener is obviously supposed to remind the audience of [[Dominus Ambus]], Rewind's old friend and master, seen in flashbacks in issue #12. His obviously-shortened name and different color scheme (green and white versus Dominus's gold) ought to give readers pause, and as next issue will reveal, he's not what he appears.
*The giant gold robots previously appeared back in issue #2. They've not been named in-story as of yet, but concept art from the first ''More than Meets the Eye'' trade paperback identified them as "Legislators", a term that has gone on to be used in IDW's catalogue solicitations for "Remain in Light".
*Bonkers Autobot doctor Pharma appeared in issues #4 and [[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|#5]], in which he got his hands lopped off. He's replaced one of them with a chainsaw. Groovy.

===Transformers references===
*Whirl explains that the harvesting of a spark involves taking with it a portion of the surrounding metallic matter, named "[[sentio metallico]]". Roberts created this term for his unofficial novel ''Eugenesis'', where it was the name of the liquid metal matter that erupted from other Transformers' bodies and congealed into new lifeforms as part of the "budding" reproductive process seen in the original ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' comic book. This seems to imply—as has been previously suggested by remarks about the irreplaceable nature of forged body parts—that forged bodies actually ''grow'' from this matter around the spark, where constructed cold bodies are simply built.
*The Legislator's declarations of "seventeen twenty-one" refer to the issues of ''More than Meets the Eye'' that the five-part "Remain in Light" story appears in, starting with this issue, #17, and running until #21.

===Real-life references===
*''[[Wikipedia:Remain in Light|Remain in Light]]'' is the title of an album by the band [[Wikipedia:Talking Heads|Talking Heads]].
*For the language-fanciers among you, "fecund" means "fertile". The full moon is often described as "fecund" in literature, owing to its mythological connections to fertility; here, that figurative language is given a far more literal double-meaning, as the moon in this story is literally bursting with life waiting to be born.
*Brainstorm has a tiny model of [[wikipedia:RoboCop (franchise)#ED 209|ED-209]] from ''[[Wikipedia: RoboCop|RoboCop]]'' on his desk.
*Continuing the trend started by "[[V3]]" from ''[[The Reluctant Specialist|Spotlight: Trailcutter]]'', [[Den-O|another new member]] of the Titan Hunters appears to be based on one of the title characters from the Japanese tokusatsu franchise ''[[wikipedia:Kamen Rider Series|Kamen Rider]]'', in this case [[wikipedia:Kamen Rider Den-O (character)|Kamen Rider Den-O]].

===Trivia===
*Like the "[[Duobot|Shock and Ore]]" gag before it, the "M.A.A.B.s or M.A.R.B.s" joke is another one that works better if you imagine it spoken with James Roberts's native English accent, where the pronunciation of the words is virtually identical, versus the more obvious difference a North American accent yields.

===Crew manifest===
*Tailgate discovers he is terminally ill.
*11 deaths, 5 new arrivals (plus 20 or so Faders), one boxed, and one banishment since the launch.

===Soundtrack===
For all of "Remain in Light":
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjmGZfHHC80 "A Dazzling End"] from the ''[[Doctor|Doctor Who]]'' {{w|Doctor Who: Series 4 (soundtrack)|Series 4 soundtrack}}, by [[wikipedia:Murray Gold|Murray Gold]]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrbxWOMpwfs "The Universal"] by [[Wikipedia:Blur (band)|Blur]]

For this issue alone:
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNdMc6wGtU "Heaven"] by the aforementioned Talking Heads
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4XHx_boqTI "A Comet Appears"] by [[Wikipedia:The Shins|The Shins]]

===Covers (5)===
*'''Cover A:''' The ''[[Lost Light]]'' crew face an onslaught of [[Legislator]]s, art by [[Alex Milne]], colours by [[Josh Perez]]
*'''Cover B:''' Rodimus flees a Legislator, art by [[Sean Chen]], colours by [[Tom Chu]].
*'''Cover RI:''' A despondent Tailgate alone beside a porthole, art by [[Nick Roche]], colours by Josh Perez.
*'''Con Edition:''' Blank white version for sketches, available exclusively at assorted conventions
*'''Comicfolio edition:''' Cover A sans trade dress, included in a die-cut hardcover portfolio with a lithograph of Cover B. Limited to 250 copies, only available through the [[IDW Limited]] store.

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Duobot

2015-11-25T03:00:15Z

TheRedDouglas:

{{Factions|autobot}}
:''The Duobots are an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Duobots Concept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Shock and Ore. Or Ore and Shock. Whatever.]]

The '''Duobots''', [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] and [[Ore]], look pretty indistinguishable. Even though nobody can tell them apart and they ''seem'' like throwaway guys, they've done a lot of stuff!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The two Duobots made it through the war together, surviving the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], "the day it rained" on [[Babu Yar]], and the [[Simanzi Massacre]], where they braved the [[Crucible]]. They also had a prankster streak, having once welded [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl's]] hands together for a gag. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

The Duobots were members of [[Special Operations]] and reported directly to Prowl. One of their regular jobs was handling field agents like [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Getaway]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Along with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], the Duobots were Prowl's agents aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'', charged with attaching a [[slow cell]] containing [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] to the ship's hull and planting a tracer on its engines. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} Ore went down into the engine room to carry out their second task as the ship was taking off from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which unfortunately led him to be standing too close to the ship's [[quantum generator]]s when they activated. The resultant suspension of the local laws of space-time caused Ore to be fused with the engine, killing him and causing an explosion that crippled the ship. Hurled to some bleak corner of the galaxy, the ''Lost Light'' was able to put down on a small planet, where what was left of Ore's body was found by [[Brainstorm]] who remarked that, on the bright side, at least now they'd know which Duobot was which. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On‎|Hangers On}} Meanwhile, an amnesiac Skids crashed near the ''Lost Light'': his homing device had locked onto the Duobots, his nearest handlers. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

Ore's passing was observed by [[Shock (G1)|Shock]], who then set about removing all incriminating evidence of their connection to Prowl, deleting the communication from him and heading down to the engine room to recover the discarded tracer. Unfortunately for Shock, he was set upon and killed by a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] that had been hidden in the bowels of the ship. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

Some time later, Ore came back to life thanks to the "psychic scream" of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. Still fused to the engine and unaware of what had happened to him, he had a brief chat with [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] before disappearing together with the Metrotitan when it teleported away. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Duobots would be rather ignomiously remembered when Whirl described a batch of fallen attackers as being "deader than a Duobot". {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

==Notes==
*The Duobots were presumably created as an Autobot counterpart to the [[Duocon]]s, though with wheels on their legs and treads on their upper backs they don't appear to share that team's "air vehicle upper body combines with ground vehicle lower body" design scheme. Indeed, Shock's lament in "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" that he is now a "walking misnomer" might even suggest that instead of being two vehicles who form one robot, the Duobots are two ''robots'' who form one ''vehicle'', possibly making them the definition of the "duocombiners" mentioned in passing on MtMtE 10: Shadowplay, part 2, page 17. And, in the artist's version of "authorial intent" [[Alex Milne]] has confirmed on DeviantArt that he has designed a combined alt mode for the two, but is keeping it private for possible later publication.
*Conversely, when asked about the Duobots' combined mode in a [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=309202#309202 Q&A on the IDW forums] writer [[James Roberts]] replied: "In my head, the Duobots don’t combine – they’re more like clones. Sorry!" (That said, Roberts had previously used the term 'Duobot' in his fan novel ''Eugenesis'' to refer to cassette combiner [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]].)
*As a product of the mind of English writer James Roberts, the fun double-meaning of Shock and Ore's names may not be immediately apparent to American readers. Try saying them out loud in an English accent.

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]

Duobot

2015-11-25T02:56:01Z

TheRedDouglas: The joke works with an English accent, but not other British accents that would include Scottish and Irish which do not soften or drop the 'r' following a vowel. Roberts' clearly speaks in an English accent ergo...

{{Factions|autobot}}
:''The Duobots are an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Duobots Concept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Shock and Ore. Or Ore and Shock. Whatever.]]

The '''Duobots''', [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] and [[Ore]], look pretty indistinguishable. Even though nobody can tell them apart and they ''seem'' like throwaway guys, they've done a lot of stuff!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The two Duobots made it through the war together, surviving the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], "the day it rained" on [[Babu Yar]], and the [[Simanzi Massacre]], where they braved the [[Crucible]]. They also had a prankster streak, having once welded [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl's]] hands together for a gag. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

The Duobots were members of [[Special Operations]] and reported directly to Prowl. One of their regular jobs was handling field agents like [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Getaway]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Along with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], the Duobots were Prowl's agents aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'', charged with attaching a [[slow cell]] containing [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] to the ship's hull and planting a tracer on its engines. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} Ore went down into the engine room to carry out their second task as the ship was taking off from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which unfortunately led him to be standing too close to the ship's [[quantum generator]]s when they activated. The resultant suspension of the local laws of space-time caused Ore to be fused with the engine, killing him and causing an explosion that crippled the ship. Hurled to some bleak corner of the galaxy, the ''Lost Light'' was able to put down on a small planet, where what was left of Ore's body was found by [[Brainstorm]] who remarked that, on the bright side, at least now they'd know which Duobot was which. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On‎|Hangers On}} Meanwhile, an amnesiac Skids crashed near the ''Lost Light'': his homing device had locked onto the Duobots, his nearest handlers. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

Ore's passing was observed by [[Shock (G1)|Shock]], who then set about removing all incriminating evidence of their connection to Prowl, deleting the communication from him and heading down to the engine room to recover the discarded tracer. Unfortunately for Shock, he was set upon and killed by a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] that had been hidden in the bowels of the ship. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

Some time later, Ore came back to life thanks to the "psychic scream" of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. Still fused to the engine and unaware of what had happened to him, he had a brief chat with [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] before disappearing together with the Metrotitan when it teleported away. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Duobots would be rather ignomiously remembered when Whirl described a batch of fallen attackers as being "deader than a Duobot". {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

==Notes==
*The Duobots were presumably created as an Autobot counterpart to the [[Duocon]]s, though with wheels on their legs and treads on their upper backs they don't appear to share that team's "air vehicle upper body combines with ground vehicle lower body" design scheme. Indeed, Shock's lament in "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" that he is now a "walking misnomer" might even suggest that instead of being two vehicles who form one robot, the Duobots are two ''robots'' who form one ''vehicle'', possibly making them the definition of the "duocombiners" mentioned in passing on MtMtE 10: Shadowplay, part 2, page 17. And, in the artist's version of "authorial intent" [[Alex Milne]] has confirmed on DeviantArt that he has designed a combined alt mode for the two, but is keeping it private for possible later publication.
*Conversely, when asked about the Duobots' combined mode in a [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=309202#309202 Q&A on the IDW forums] writer [[James Roberts]] replied: "In my head, the Duobots don’t combine – they’re more like clones. Sorry!" (That said, Roberts had previously used the term 'Duobot' in his fan novel ''Eugenesis'' to refer to cassette combiner [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]].)
*As a product of the mind of English writer James Roberts, the fun double-meaning of Shock and Ore's names may not be immediately apparent to American readers. Try saying them out loud in a English accent.

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]

Duobot

2015-11-25T02:54:00Z

TheRedDouglas: Undo revision 1027314 by TheRedDouglas (talk)

{{Factions|autobot}}
:''The Duobots are an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Duobots Concept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Shock and Ore. Or Ore and Shock. Whatever.]]

The '''Duobots''', [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] and [[Ore]], look pretty indistinguishable. Even though nobody can tell them apart and they ''seem'' like throwaway guys, they've done a lot of stuff!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The two Duobots made it through the war together, surviving the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], "the day it rained" on [[Babu Yar]], and the [[Simanzi Massacre]], where they braved the [[Crucible]]. They also had a prankster streak, having once welded [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl's]] hands together for a gag. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

The Duobots were members of [[Special Operations]] and reported directly to Prowl. One of their regular jobs was handling field agents like [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Getaway]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Along with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], the Duobots were Prowl's agents aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'', charged with attaching a [[slow cell]] containing [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] to the ship's hull and planting a tracer on its engines. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} Ore went down into the engine room to carry out their second task as the ship was taking off from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which unfortunately led him to be standing too close to the ship's [[quantum generator]]s when they activated. The resultant suspension of the local laws of space-time caused Ore to be fused with the engine, killing him and causing an explosion that crippled the ship. Hurled to some bleak corner of the galaxy, the ''Lost Light'' was able to put down on a small planet, where what was left of Ore's body was found by [[Brainstorm]] who remarked that, on the bright side, at least now they'd know which Duobot was which. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On‎|Hangers On}} Meanwhile, an amnesiac Skids crashed near the ''Lost Light'': his homing device had locked onto the Duobots, his nearest handlers. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

Ore's passing was observed by [[Shock (G1)|Shock]], who then set about removing all incriminating evidence of their connection to Prowl, deleting the communication from him and heading down to the engine room to recover the discarded tracer. Unfortunately for Shock, he was set upon and killed by a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] that had been hidden in the bowels of the ship. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

Some time later, Ore came back to life thanks to the "psychic scream" of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. Still fused to the engine and unaware of what had happened to him, he had a brief chat with [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] before disappearing together with the Metrotitan when it teleported away. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Duobots would be rather ignomiously remembered when Whirl described a batch of fallen attackers as being "deader than a Duobot". {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

==Notes==
*The Duobots were presumably created as an Autobot counterpart to the [[Duocon]]s, though with wheels on their legs and treads on their upper backs they don't appear to share that team's "air vehicle upper body combines with ground vehicle lower body" design scheme. Indeed, Shock's lament in "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" that he is now a "walking misnomer" might even suggest that instead of being two vehicles who form one robot, the Duobots are two ''robots'' who form one ''vehicle'', possibly making them the definition of the "duocombiners" mentioned in passing on MtMtE 10: Shadowplay, part 2, page 17. And, in the artist's version of "authorial intent" [[Alex Milne]] has confirmed on DeviantArt that he has designed a combined alt mode for the two, but is keeping it private for possible later publication.
*Conversely, when asked about the Duobots' combined mode in a [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=309202#309202 Q&A on the IDW forums] writer [[James Roberts]] replied: "In my head, the Duobots don’t combine – they’re more like clones. Sorry!" (That said, Roberts had previously used the term 'Duobot' in his fan novel ''Eugenesis'' to refer to cassette combiner [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]].)
*As a product of the mind of British writer James Roberts, the fun double-meaning of Shock and Ore's names may not be immediately apparent to American readers. Try saying them out loud in a British accent.

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]

Duobot

2015-11-25T02:53:21Z

TheRedDouglas: The softening of the 'r' following a vowel sound is a feature of the English accent(s), which is the accent Roberts' speaks in. However, Scottiss and North Irish are also British but don't drop the 'r' following a vowel.

{{Factions|autobot}}
:''The Duobots are an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Duobots Concept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Shock and Ore. Or Ore and Shock. Whatever.]]

The '''Duobots''', [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] and [[Ore]], look pretty indistinguishable. Even though nobody can tell them apart and they ''seem'' like throwaway guys, they've done a lot of stuff!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The two Duobots made it through the war together, surviving the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], "the day it rained" on [[Babu Yar]], and the [[Simanzi Massacre]], where they braved the [[Crucible]]. They also had a prankster streak, having once welded [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl's]] hands together for a gag. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

The Duobots were members of [[Special Operations]] and reported directly to Prowl. One of their regular jobs was handling field agents like [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Getaway]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Along with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], the Duobots were Prowl's agents aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'', charged with attaching a [[slow cell]] containing [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] to the ship's hull and planting a tracer on its engines. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} Ore went down into the engine room to carry out their second task as the ship was taking off from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which unfortunately led him to be standing too close to the ship's [[quantum generator]]s when they activated. The resultant suspension of the local laws of space-time caused Ore to be fused with the engine, killing him and causing an explosion that crippled the ship. Hurled to some bleak corner of the galaxy, the ''Lost Light'' was able to put down on a small planet, where what was left of Ore's body was found by [[Brainstorm]] who remarked that, on the bright side, at least now they'd know which Duobot was which. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On‎|Hangers On}} Meanwhile, an amnesiac Skids crashed near the ''Lost Light'': his homing device had locked onto the Duobots, his nearest handlers. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

Ore's passing was observed by [[Shock (G1)|Shock]], who then set about removing all incriminating evidence of their connection to Prowl, deleting the communication from him and heading down to the engine room to recover the discarded tracer. Unfortunately for Shock, he was set upon and killed by a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] that had been hidden in the bowels of the ship. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

Some time later, Ore came back to life thanks to the "psychic scream" of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. Still fused to the engine and unaware of what had happened to him, he had a brief chat with [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] before disappearing together with the Metrotitan when it teleported away. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Duobots would be rather ignomiously remembered when Whirl described a batch of fallen attackers as being "deader than a Duobot". {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

==Notes==
*The Duobots were presumably created as an Autobot counterpart to the [[Duocon]]s, though with wheels on their legs and treads on their upper backs they don't appear to share that team's "air vehicle upper body combines with ground vehicle lower body" design scheme. Indeed, Shock's lament in "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" that he is now a "walking misnomer" might even suggest that instead of being two vehicles who form one robot, the Duobots are two ''robots'' who form one ''vehicle'', possibly making them the definition of the "duocombiners" mentioned in passing on MtMtE 10: Shadowplay, part 2, page 17. And, in the artist's version of "authorial intent" [[Alex Milne]] has confirmed on DeviantArt that he has designed a combined alt mode for the two, but is keeping it private for possible later publication.
*Conversely, when asked about the Duobots' combined mode in a [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=309202#309202 Q&A on the IDW forums] writer [[James Roberts]] replied: "In my head, the Duobots don’t combine – they’re more like clones. Sorry!" (That said, Roberts had previously used the term 'Duobot' in his fan novel ''Eugenesis'' to refer to cassette combiner [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]].)
*As a product of the mind of English writer James Roberts, the fun double-meaning of Shock and Ore's names may not be immediately apparent to American readers. Try saying them out loud in a English accent.

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]