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User talk:Vanderbeet

2020-10-31T20:11:37Z

Vanderbeet:

{{Welcome}}
If your edits are being reverted by other users, don't start an edit war and keep reverting them back – this is not constructive. In cases like this, you should instead be starting a discussion on the article in question's talk page. Additionally, you should ''definitely'' not be coming on to the wiki and altering policy documents with your second-ever edit. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 07:49, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

* I have lurked this wiki for years lol. I originally intended to edit the captions page because JaAm was not on the list of "jokes we hate" the last time I visited, I had no idea what the explanation even meant, and on top of that it wasn't even really funny. So then I go to the JaAm page, and it still doesn't really explain what the issue is. So then I have to go to the talk page, where someone claims the original comic was ''intended'' to mock autistic people, which is just mind-blowing. Considering Grimlock's captions are explicitly designed to mock/imitate people who aren't intelligent, it is quite interesting that people have come to view JaAm of all things as anything other than (now rather annoying) RaNd0m humor. [[User:Vanderbeet|Vanderbeet]] ([[User talk:Vanderbeet|talk]]) 16:10, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

User talk:Vanderbeet

2020-10-31T20:10:15Z

Vanderbeet:

{{Welcome}}
If your edits are being reverted by other users, don't start an edit war and keep reverting them back – this is not constructive. In cases like this, you should instead be starting a discussion on the article in question's talk page. Additionally, you should ''definitely'' not be coming on to the wiki and altering policy documents with your second-ever edit. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 07:49, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

* I have lurked this wiki for years lol. I originally intended to edit the captions page because JaAm was not on the list of "jokes we hate" the last time I visited, I had no idea what the explanation even meant, and on top of that it wasn't even really funny. So then I go to the JaAm page, and it still doesn't really explain what the issue is. So then I have to go to the talk page, where someone claims the original comic was ''intended'' to mock autistic people, which is just mind-blowing. Considering Grimlock's captions are explicitly designed to mock people who aren't intelligent, it is quite interesting that people have come to view JaAm of all things as anything other than (now rather annoying) RaNd0m humor. [[User:Vanderbeet|Vanderbeet]] ([[User talk:Vanderbeet|talk]]) 16:10, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

JaAm

2020-10-31T10:17:40Z

Vanderbeet: Undo revision 1455041 by Jalaguy (talk)

{{disambig2|the unusual substance|the Japanese supergroup|JAM Project}}
:''JaAm is a mysterious quantity from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Hotshotjaam.jpg|right|180px|thumb|It's like someone compressed the essence of early '00s internet "humor" into a single image.]]
[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] is obsessed with '''JaAm'''. No one's really sure what it is, though Hot Shot's Autobot peers have suggested it may be some mysterious fuel source. Regardless, it's important enough to Hot Shot that he had a vanity license plate made to proclaim his love for it!

==What is "JaAm"??==
Just before the [[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|''Armada'' toyline]]'s launch in 2002, scans of the [[Armada Volume 1|first]] pack-in [[Transformers: Armada (mini-comic)|mini-comic]] were released online, and quickly became the subject of ire. The original comic was trilingual, forcing the [[Chris Sarracini|writer]] to fit three languages' worth of dialogue into tiny speech bubbles, resulting in unintentionally goofy-sounding stilted prose. To poke fun at the comic, British fan [[User:Blueshift|Yartek]] rewrote the entire thing with ridiculous and crude dialogue, with Hot Shot specifically speaking in nonsense in randomly-mixed-case {{w|Comic Sans MS|Comic Sans}}. The most famous quote from the comic, "jaAm", comes from Hot Shot's description of the large green energy-draining device, which he mistakes for a container of {{w|Fruit preserves|jam}}. Hot Shot's obsession with the foodstuff was apparently inspired by the "Bunny Cuddles" stories from the British magazine ''{{w|Playhour}}'', featuring an anthropomorphic rabbit whose favorite food was jam.

[[File:jaamplate.jpg|left|150px|thumb|This is also Michael Bay's vanity plate]]

The rewritten mini-comic immediately took on a life of its own within the fandom, surviving as a meme long beyond ''Armada''. For instance, when [[Ben Yee]] overhauled his toy review system, he commissioned Hot Shot fan [[David Willis]] to create a series of images based on the mini-comic. Our own coverage of the meme seems to have played a part in perpetuating it: the specific capitalization of "JaAm" used when Hasbro themselves made reference to it is sourced not from the comic, but apparently from this very page.

The first official reference to JaAm came with Hot Shot's [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Universe (2008)|new figure]] as part of the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, which referred to it both on his vanity [[license plate]] and in his on-package bio. Years later, JaAm was again referenced in the ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Rescue Bots Academy]]'' episode "[[Rescue Promo]]": when [[Hot Shot (Prime)|that show's version]] of Hot Shot was dropped into a vat during a rescue mission at an out of control [[Griffin Rock]] cake factory, he emerged covered in a blue substance which he declared to be "jaaaam!"

==External links==
*[https://tfwiki.net/~fortmax/JaAm/JaAm.html "Armada - The REAL Story", by Yartek] on FortMax's Instructions Archive

{{DEFAULTSORT:Jaam}}
[[Category:Armada]]
[[Category:Fan terminology]]
[[Category:Power sources]]
[[Category:Substances]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]

MediaWiki:Captions

2020-10-31T10:17:32Z

Vanderbeet: Undo revision 1455040 by Jalaguy (talk)

[[Image:Captions wearenotwikipedia.png|thumb|400px|A picture is worth 1000 words.]]

Unlike most Wikis, '''{{SITENAME}}''' does not have a complete ban on humor, particularly in image captions where a description saying "a picture of Generation 1 Megatron" on a page about Generation 1 Megatron with "Megatron (G1)" in big bold letters at the top with "Megatron" bolded in the opening paragraph would be just a ''wee'' bit redundant. Instead, we prefer to lighten things up with humorous image captions, because ''Transformers'' is inherently ridiculous, and denying this probably isn't healthy.

{{SITENAME}} is a fun community which welcomes new members' contributions with open arms. That said... if your idea of "contributing" is to simply change the existing jokes to new, "funnier" jokes... '''don't'''. This holds true for changing them to blanks or boring, patently-obvious descriptors as well.

==Why?==
There are several reasons we discourage new users from editing image captions.

* Your jokes ''probably'' aren't any funnier.
* Funny image captions are like a ''fun bonus'' you get to do when you make a page or a new section or upload a needed image. For the people who wrote the text, or found and edited the images, this is their reward for that hard work. If you're not expanding the article, you really shouldn't be making jokes.
* If you're ''changing'' a joke, you're removing content created by a user who's contributed to this community, and replacing it with something from someone (yourself) who has not.

{{messagebox|header=Simple Rule of Thumb|message_text=If you haven't contributed anything, don't change the image captions.}}

==Removing joke captions==
[[Image:Captions.png|right|frame|Edits which do nothing but change the funny image captions to ''new'' funny image captions, or remove those captions altogether, are reverted to their original state.]]
You will be banned if you repeatedly remove jokes simply for the sake of doing so despite warnings given. The humor thing has been discussed at length for quite a long time; the policy will not change, and trying to "make a point" will only result in us removing the troublemaker.
{{--}}

==Keep in mind, however...==
* '''Some jokes are not appropriate.'''

:We ''do'' have guidelines about what level of humor is and is not acceptable:
:* When it comes to profanity, try to stick to "PG-13" words or lower. The four-letter f-word indicating copulation is ''right'' out.
:* Sexual humor should be kept to a minimum, and preferably '''''im'''''plicit rather than '''''ex'''''plicit.
:* We do ''not'' tolerate slurs, stereotyping, or "punching down" humor. Jokes where the target is based on race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. will get a wipe, and you'll at ''least'' be on thin ice.
{{note|We are aware that some older, untouched-for-years pages/sections may contain jokes along these lines. We have been actively weeding out such instances, but please bear with us if some have slipped by. This is pretty much the one case where blanking a caption is all right.}}

* '''It is okay for an image to have a factual caption, or *gasp* ''no caption at all''.'''

:Please note that an image without a caption is '''not''' an open invitation for anyone to come along and slap in whatever thought first crosses their mind. A captionless image is not some grievous error in need of immediate correction. Minimal-contributing editors who add captions in such instances are rarely doing the wiki a service.

:Also, on occasion, a caption ''needs'' to be informative, not irreverent. Sometimes, a descriptor ''is'' necessary to describe the contents (such as [[Gang-molding|just what pattern you should be recognizing here in regards to the plastic colors]]), and a joke will only obfuscate or confuse the purpose of the image.

:We ''allow'' humor. We don't ''discourage'' it. But we certainly don't ''mandate'' it, either. The purpose of this wiki is to convey information; the jokes are an occasional bonus, not the driving force.

* '''Having no caption is better than having an outright dumb, inane, pointless, badly-written or unfunny one.'''

:As with pretty much everything else, we demand ''quality''. While humor is highly subjective, a joke caption should generally have ''some'' kind of thought, reasoning, or intelligence behind it.

:If you can't even punctuate or capitalize, don't bother. If you haven't contributed substantive content, don't bother. If your joke caption isn't funny enough to make ''you'' laugh, don't bother. If your "joke" is so obscure or internalized that nobody on Earth will ever grasp it except for just you, ''don't bother.'' We have plenty of jokes already.

:Regular contributors who decide not to add humorous captions to images they've uploaded or inserted into articles are encouraged to add more "standard", factually descriptive captions instead if necessary. We would much rather have that than weak attempts at humor by non-contributing editors. And while "A picture of Megatron" is inane and redundant, "Megatron's [[Package art|box art]] painting from his 1984 toy", while not ''necessary'' (since such detailed information would be part of the image file's content), is at least informative and intelligent.

* '''Even the funniest jokes stop being funny when overused.'''

:Sure, a joke might be funny the first time. Maybe it even gets funnier when strategically placed multiple times on a page to create a running gag. Then editors start dogpiling the page, trying to make it a primary caption theme or work the joke into any available caption space. Then it starts working its way into any image that's even vaguely related, just for the sake of having it in there. Then new users who see it all over the place try to squeeze it in wherever they can, sometimes when it's barely even relevant, just so they can feel like they're in on the joke. And by the time all is said and done, everyone is sick to death of the original joke and mentioning it will get you nothing but a grimace and an exasperated sigh.

:Any joke is bound to become grating when used over and over ''and over and over '''and over''''' again. Not every picture of ''Beast Wars'' Megatron needs a "yesssssss" in the caption; not every image of Spider-Man or someone disintegrating needs an "I don't feel so good" quote; and so on and so forth. If anything, it arguably shows a lack of originality on the part of the editor(s) trying to add it everywhere. Use your best discretion when repeating an existing joke and really think about whether it's still funny or fits the image in question. Variety is the spice of life, so we'll always prefer coming up with something new instead of trotting out the same tired material over and over again. In instances where a joke has clearly been run into the ground, multiple captions will sometimes be rewritten or blanked to help bring the number of uses down to a more reasonable amount.

:Overuse of the same joke is a quick way to get it on the list of [[#Captions and jokes we're sick of|captions and jokes we're sick of]] below.

==Themed quote captions==
[[File:Captions-BadQuoteExample.jpg|left|thumb|A poor example of a caption theme; while we all love ''Dragon Ball Z Abridged'', the Frieza quote here doesn't have much relevance to [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Starscream]], and "you and the Namekian" don't obviously correlate to other characters.]]
[[File:Captions-GoodQuoteExample.jpg|thumb|A good example of a caption theme; [[Baron Karza]] and {{w|Spaceballs|Dark Helmet}} are both knock-offs of [[Darth Vader]], and the quote here is funny even without knowing the source.]]
Several pages on this wiki have themed captions, with most or all of the captions on a page being quotes from a single source — the most famous example is probably [[Kup (G1)|"Generation 1" Kup]], whose captions all come from another old coot who tells rambling stories about his experiences as a soldier: {{w|Grampa Simpson}}. Naturally, when creating or populating a new page, it could be tempting to do the same — but be careful, as themed captions can easily become boring or irrelevant without care taken.

Generally, if you want to implement a caption theme, you should be mindful of the following:
* The captions need to have relevance to the subject — as pointed out above, Kup is an old soldier who tells rambling stories, so Grampa Simpson is a good match for him.
* They have to be reasonably recognisable (at least by Googling, if nothing else).
* Individual captions have to fit the contents of the images they caption; and, thus, there need to be ''enough'' of them to reasonably fit the contents of images that might be added in future.
* Brevity is the soul of wit. If your caption quote isn't funny in 20 words, then it probably isn't going to be much funnier with 100.
* Most, if not all, of them need to be funny even if you don't know the source of the quote.

And, in general, keep in mind the fact that themed captions are already somewhat oversaturated on the wiki. They should be occasional page quirks, not the default.
{{-}}

==Captions and jokes we're sick of==
Or, ways to earn a quick revert:
* Linking the word "God" to the [[Primus]] article. "Oh [[Primus|God]], not again!" Overdone? Yes. Funny? No.
* Linking the word "crazy" to the [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] article. Do it and we'll give you something to scream about!
** Or any other character with questionable mental health. This can cause confusion for readers who aren't up on 35 years worth of memes and in-jokes.
* Anything involving "Soundwave superior". Previous caption superior! Your caption inferior.
* Gratuitous word-linking to "[[To sell toys]]" and "[[Ruined FOREVER]]".
* "[[Dull surprise]]!" Yeah, we get it. Thanks. It'll take new depths of awfulness to actually merit using this.
* Changing every single Omega Supreme caption to match his speech quirk. Joke: overdone. Humor: deceased.
* Jokes about how someone with a large weapon or whatever else is "compensating" for something.
* Remarks about how someone or something is "not" someone or something else that they might vaguely resemble, or "not" "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" whatever.
* "I'm here to kick ass and chew energon/bubblegum/anything else!"
* ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'', [[Beast (G1)|the Beast]], ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Combiner Wars]]'', and "[[B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.]]" Yes, we know. We all know. It's over with. Let it go, Indiana.
* Any reference to [[JaAm]]. It is not the early 2000s anymore.
* Any and all variations of "dude looks like a lady". We get it's a pop music reference, but see above concerning "inappropriate" jokes.
* ''Futurama'' "clamps" references. The core of that whole shtick is how ''uninspired and obvious it is''.
* "Hi, I'm Windblade!" There are few jokes that benefit from endless repetition, and this isn't one of them.
* "And then all the other toys were thrown away." There will ''always'' be a better toy, sooner or later.
* Comments about how much a specific toy rocks/sucks. Unless the reception is notable, don't presume to speak for the rest of us.
* "Japan is pervy" captions are way overdone, and often don’t fit the "PG-13" limit.
* The many things [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] hates. Which coincidentally includes all of the above.

===Jokes we're not sick of===
* Since the jokes in the previous section are surplus to requirements, you must wonder what chance [[Furmanism]]s have. The answer: a very good one.
* Me [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s speech pattern filled with comedy potential!
* We [[MSTF|love]] ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' references, [[dull surprise]] notwithstanding (see above).
* KNOW that [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]]'s running gag never gets old!

{{see|Transformers Wiki:Policies#De-snarking}}

JaAm

2020-10-31T09:14:17Z

Vanderbeet: Grimlock's entire gimmick on the wiki is mocking people with lower intelligence. This is a joke explicitly endorsed on the captions page. JaAm is even tamer than that, it's early 2000s random humor.

MediaWiki:Captions

2020-10-31T08:34:32Z

Vanderbeet:

MediaWiki:Captions

2020-10-31T08:14:03Z

Vanderbeet:

[[Image:Captions wearenotwikipedia.png|thumb|400px|A picture is worth 1000 words.]]

Unlike most Wikis, '''{{SITENAME}}''' does not have a complete ban on humor, particularly in image captions where a description saying "a picture of Generation 1 Megatron" on a page about Generation 1 Megatron with "Megatron (G1)" in big bold letters at the top with "Megatron" bolded in the opening paragraph would be just a ''wee'' bit redundant. Instead, we prefer to lighten things up with humorous image captions, because ''Transformers'' is inherently ridiculous, and denying this probably isn't healthy.

{{SITENAME}} is a fun community which welcomes new members' contributions with open arms. That said... if your idea of "contributing" is to simply change the existing jokes to new, "funnier" jokes... '''don't'''. This holds true for changing them to blanks or boring, patently-obvious descriptors as well.

==Why?==
There are several reasons we discourage new users from editing image captions.

* Your jokes ''probably'' aren't any funnier.
* Funny image captions are like a ''fun bonus'' you get to do when you make a page or a new section or upload a needed image. For the people who wrote the text, or found and edited the images, this is their reward for that hard work. If you're not expanding the article, you really shouldn't be making jokes.
* If you're ''changing'' a joke, you're removing content created by a user who's contributed to this community, and replacing it with something from someone (yourself) who has not.

{{messagebox|header=Simple Rule of Thumb|message_text=If you haven't contributed anything, don't change the image captions.}}

==Removing joke captions==
[[Image:Captions.png|right|frame|Edits which do nothing but change the funny image captions to ''new'' funny image captions, or remove those captions altogether, are reverted to their original state.]]
You will be banned if you repeatedly remove jokes simply for the sake of doing so despite warnings given. The humor thing has been discussed at length for quite a long time; the policy will not change, and trying to "make a point" will only result in us removing the troublemaker.
{{--}}

==Keep in mind, however...==
* '''Some jokes are not appropriate.'''

:We ''do'' have guidelines about what level of humor is and is not acceptable:
:* When it comes to profanity, try to stick to "PG-13" words or lower. The four-letter f-word indicating copulation is ''right'' out.
:* Sexual humor should be kept to a minimum, and preferably '''''im'''''plicit rather than '''''ex'''''plicit.
:* We do ''not'' tolerate slurs, stereotyping, or "punching down" humor. Jokes where the target is based on race, gender, sexuality, religion, etc. will get a wipe, and you'll at ''least'' be on thin ice.
{{note|We are aware that some older, untouched-for-years pages/sections may contain jokes along these lines. We have been actively weeding out such instances, but please bear with us if some have slipped by. This is pretty much the one case where blanking a caption is all right.}}

* '''It is okay for an image to have a factual caption, or *gasp* ''no caption at all''.'''

:Please note that an image without a caption is '''not''' an open invitation for anyone to come along and slap in whatever thought first crosses their mind. A captionless image is not some grievous error in need of immediate correction. Minimal-contributing editors who add captions in such instances are rarely doing the wiki a service.

:Also, on occasion, a caption ''needs'' to be informative, not irreverent. Sometimes, a descriptor ''is'' necessary to describe the contents (such as [[Gang-molding|just what pattern you should be recognizing here in regards to the plastic colors]]), and a joke will only obfuscate or confuse the purpose of the image.

:We ''allow'' humor. We don't ''discourage'' it. But we certainly don't ''mandate'' it, either. The purpose of this wiki is to convey information; the jokes are an occasional bonus, not the driving force.

* '''Having no caption is better than having an outright dumb, inane, pointless, badly-written or unfunny one.'''

:As with pretty much everything else, we demand ''quality''. While humor is highly subjective, a joke caption should generally have ''some'' kind of thought, reasoning, or intelligence behind it.

:If you can't even punctuate or capitalize, don't bother. If you haven't contributed substantive content, don't bother. If your joke caption isn't funny enough to make ''you'' laugh, don't bother. If your "joke" is so obscure or internalized that nobody on Earth will ever grasp it except for just you, ''don't bother.'' We have plenty of jokes already.

:Regular contributors who decide not to add humorous captions to images they've uploaded or inserted into articles are encouraged to add more "standard", factually descriptive captions instead if necessary. We would much rather have that than weak attempts at humor by non-contributing editors. And while "A picture of Megatron" is inane and redundant, "Megatron's [[Package art|box art]] painting from his 1984 toy", while not ''necessary'' (since such detailed information would be part of the image file's content), is at least informative and intelligent.

* '''Even the funniest jokes stop being funny when overused.'''

:Sure, a joke might be funny the first time. Maybe it even gets funnier when strategically placed multiple times on a page to create a running gag. Then editors start dogpiling the page, trying to make it a primary caption theme or work the joke into any available caption space. Then it starts working its way into any image that's even vaguely related, just for the sake of having it in there. Then new users who see it all over the place try to squeeze it in wherever they can, sometimes when it's barely even relevant, just so they can feel like they're in on the joke. And by the time all is said and done, everyone is sick to death of the original joke and mentioning it will get you nothing but a grimace and an exasperated sigh.

:Any joke is bound to become grating when used over and over ''and over and over '''and over''''' again. Not every picture of ''Beast Wars'' Megatron needs a "yesssssss" in the caption; not every image of Spider-Man or someone disintegrating needs an "I don't feel so good" quote; and so on and so forth. If anything, it arguably shows a lack of originality on the part of the editor(s) trying to add it everywhere. Use your best discretion when repeating an existing joke and really think about whether it's still funny or fits the image in question. Variety is the spice of life, so we'll always prefer coming up with something new instead of trotting out the same tired material over and over again. In instances where a joke has clearly been run into the ground, multiple captions will sometimes be rewritten or blanked to help bring the number of uses down to a more reasonable amount.

:Overuse of the same joke is a quick way to get it on the list of [[#Captions and jokes we're sick of|captions and jokes we're sick of]] below.

==Themed quote captions==
[[File:Captions-BadQuoteExample.jpg|left|thumb|A poor example of a caption theme; while we all love ''Dragon Ball Z Abridged'', the Frieza quote here doesn't have much relevance to [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Starscream]], and "you and the Namekian" don't obviously correlate to other characters.]]
[[File:Captions-GoodQuoteExample.jpg|thumb|A good example of a caption theme; [[Baron Karza]] and {{w|Spaceballs|Dark Helmet}} are both knock-offs of [[Darth Vader]], and the quote here is funny even without knowing the source.]]
Several pages on this wiki have themed captions, with most or all of the captions on a page being quotes from a single source — the most famous example is probably [[Kup (G1)|"Generation 1" Kup]], whose captions all come from another old coot who tells rambling stories about his experiences as a soldier: {{w|Grampa Simpson}}. Naturally, when creating or populating a new page, it could be tempting to do the same — but be careful, as themed captions can easily become boring or irrelevant without care taken.

Generally, if you want to implement a caption theme, you should be mindful of the following:
* The captions need to have relevance to the subject — as pointed out above, Kup is an old soldier who tells rambling stories, so Grampa Simpson is a good match for him.
* They have to be reasonably recognisable (at least by Googling, if nothing else).
* Individual captions have to fit the contents of the images they caption; and, thus, there need to be ''enough'' of them to reasonably fit the contents of images that might be added in future.
* Brevity is the soul of wit. If your caption quote isn't funny in 20 words, then it probably isn't going to be much funnier with 100.
* Most, if not all, of them need to be funny even if you don't know the source of the quote.

And, in general, keep in mind the fact that themed captions are already somewhat oversaturated on the wiki. They should be occasional page quirks, not the default.
{{-}}

==Captions and jokes we're sick of==
Or, ways to earn a quick revert:
* Linking the word "God" to the [[Primus]] article. "Oh [[Primus|God]], not again!" Overdone? Yes. Funny? No.
* Linking the word "crazy" to the [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] article. Do it and we'll give you something to scream about!
** Or any other character with questionable mental health. This can cause confusion for readers who aren't up on 35 years worth of memes and in-jokes.
* Anything involving "Soundwave superior". Previous caption superior! Your caption inferior.
* Gratuitous word-linking to "[[To sell toys]]" and "[[Ruined FOREVER]]".
* "[[Dull surprise]]!" Yeah, we get it. Thanks. It'll take new depths of awfulness to actually merit using this.
* Changing every single Omega Supreme caption to match his speech quirk. Joke: overdone. Humor: deceased.
* Jokes about how someone with a large weapon or whatever else is "compensating" for something.
* Remarks about how someone or something is "not" someone or something else that they might vaguely resemble, or "not" "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" whatever.
* "I'm here to kick ass and chew energon/bubblegum/anything else!"
* ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'', [[Beast (G1)|the Beast]], ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Combiner Wars]]'', and "[[B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.]]" Yes, we know. We all know. It's over with. Let it go, Indiana.
* Any reference to [[JaAm]]. Enough said.
* Any and all variations of "dude looks like a lady". We get it's a pop music reference, but see above concerning "inappropriate" jokes.
* ''Futurama'' "clamps" references. The core of that whole shtick is how ''uninspired and obvious it is''.
* "Hi, I'm Windblade!" There are few jokes that benefit from endless repetition, and this isn't one of them.
* "And then all the other toys were thrown away." There will ''always'' be a better toy, sooner or later.
* Comments about how much a specific toy rocks/sucks. Unless the reception is notable, don't presume to speak for the rest of us.
* "Japan is pervy" captions are way overdone, and often don’t fit the "PG-13" limit.
* The many things [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] hates. Which coincidentally includes all of the above.

===Jokes we're not sick of===
* Since the jokes in the previous section are surplus to requirements, you must wonder what chance [[Furmanism]]s have. The answer: a very good one.
* Me [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s speech pattern filled with comedy potential!
* We [[MSTF|love]] ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' references, [[dull surprise]] notwithstanding (see above).
* KNOW that [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]]'s running gag never gets old!

{{see|Transformers Wiki:Policies#De-snarking}}

JaAm

2020-10-31T08:13:02Z

Vanderbeet: what