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Talk:Shockwave (Animated)

2010-01-04T03:53:32Z

Vicious:

==Locked==
So, how long is the lock out going to last? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'd guess, until Autoboot Camp airs in the States. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 17:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
::Seems to be the trend. I can agree with it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Is this page still locked, or what? I can't edit it and I was hoping to note how much Shockwave, uh, doesn't look like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. At all. [[User:KingAndy|KingAndy]] 09:30, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Oh, apparently somebody thinks he ''does'' look like a reindeer. Go figure. [[User:KingAndy|KingAndy]] 10:47, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

==I have the Picture==
[[Image:TFA Shockwave.jpg|thumb|250px|left|Shockwave as he appears in [[Transformers Animated]]]]

Please unlock the Shockwave article. [[User:Mr. Serious|Mr. Serious]] 15:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Uh, that's not from Autoboot Camp is it?[[User:GWolfv2]] 16.53 June 5th 2008

It seems to be, I recognise that pose. We could use it until a whole body image or some toy images are released, although one of him transforming from Longarm Prime to Shockwave would be good too (Shotgun on the Autbot counterpart gag). [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 15:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Couldn't we put the picture lower on the article and put the "Does Prime Die?" spoiler warning at the top. That way people who haven't seen [[Autoboot Camp]] don't get the spoiler like some people who have seen it. Just an idea.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 16:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::The picture should go in the same place as always, because there's nothing remotely spoilery about it. Shockwave is on a viewscreen. Could mean anything. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, since this is about to be deleted, we don't have to do anything. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Now I changed the name of the image. [[User:Mr. Serious|Mr. Serious]] 19:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:It doesn't work that way. You have to reupload the image to change the name. Try something like Animated Shockwave or TFA Autoboot Camp Shockwave. Something that defines the what continuity the subject is in. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I now named it TFA Shockwave. [[User:Mr. Serious|Mr. Serious]] 16:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but this episode is gonna air in the US this week ain't it? Or is it S.U.V. that's gonna air this week? I don't know for sure because I don't get Cartoon Network and have been watching them on YouTube a week at a time.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 03:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Autoboot Camp is this week's Moose episode. The US gets SUV this week. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 03:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, guess I was wrong. So I'm a few weeks ahead of the rest of the nation. But I will not go past Black Friday (which I'll probably end up watching Sunday after work).--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 03:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Shockwave? Where are you? ==

I try to avoid Youtube and the sort so i haven't seen the episode, but I can't help but look up characters. This being said, why does the "little red autobot" have a picture and Shockwave doesn't?

EDIT: Sorry for not signing, and I just realized that it's locked... [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 19:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

==Logic suggests merger==

Now that its shown in Canaidia, can we go ahead and merge this with Longarm's article?[[User:GWolfv2]] 22.46 June 7th
:I believe we said, at least in one place, that we were going to try to keep the character pages spoiler free (or at least marked as spoilers int he fiction section) until the episode airs in the US in another week. Since a redirect is ''inherently'' a spoiler (anyone clicking on it to read the general bio of Shockwave or Longarm-- but stopping before the section marked as spoilers, would be spoiled just by the act of clicking.)
:The decision on the date may have changed- there was a lot of back and forth on it- but 'when it airs int he US' was what I remember last. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::That being said, can we at least unlock the page to allow registered users to work on it? We have an image now, and the guy who uploaded it deserves a chance to place it on with a caption of his choice. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:If I knew when it happened, I would suggest merging them when the Autobots find out that he's playing both sides. But with Animated having a Starscream whose betrayal is secretive and covert, Shockwave's role as a backstabbing spy may actually go undetected, with no dramatic reveal to his Autobot patsies just to go "Mwa Ha Ha, I am evil the whole time!".--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 01:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
::God knows I object to TFRocks' approach of making the reveal in the first paragraph of the fiction section.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm also holding off on posting the double agents category, as nobody wants to get spoiled just by browsing a category.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Toy? ==

Is there any news on a toy for Shockwave yet, and if so, does it (commented out to avoid spoilers, I guess)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Shockwave release ==

Here's hoping they release a a triplchanger for him, one mode tank, one mode crane and two robot settings - Longarm Scuba Mask and Shockwave Cyclops... Well, I hope that's how it comes out! - [[User:Shockwave Prime]]

==New stuff coming==
I realised he was not the only autobot and decepticon shape shifter and he is also a double Agent, How come it wasn't in the article. [[Special:Contributions/82.17.140.55|82.17.140.55]] 19:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
: There are lots of words above. They are for your reading. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Spoiler pic ==

Just figured I'd link [[:Image:TFA Shockwave DoubleAgent.jpg|this]] here, so it can be posted whenever we're ready to do so. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 19:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Transwarped ==

I had just finished writing a whole bunch of stuff for Shockwave in his Transwarped appearance, only to find someone had already wrote something in :( Phooey.

Should I still pop it in, or does someone want to read it or...?
--Tribor

==Capitalization?==
Derrick and the "TransWarped" credits capitalize the "A" in "Longarm". Is there anything that goes against this? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:48, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

== Burton Interview? ==

According to the Notes section, Burton says in a recent interview that he at least partly influenced Shockwave getting an expanded role this season. However, the link to the interview returns a "The requested topic does not exist" error from Seibertron's forums. I did a search there for "Burton" and "interview" and found one whole thread, and that's about an interview Burton did at StarWars.com. Nothing in the thread or that interview mentions Burton getting Shockwave's role expanded. (Of course, the Seibertron forum layout looks slightly bunged up, at least on this computer, so it could be a transient glitch on that end.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:56, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
:Well, it's either a glitch, or it's been taken down. A quick google for "Seibertron" and "Corey Burton" brings up a few news posts from other sites linking to the interview from when it was up. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:08, 29 March 2009 (EDT)
::Yea the server had a big crash due to a big flooding last Autumn which caused many threads to be lost and even member profiles, and seibertron's backups weren't complete so I fear it is lost forever.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:26, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Yep. IIRC, the interview was actually posted in the forum itself, so it probably got wiped in the crash. It might be worth e-mailing Ryan to ask if he or the person who did the interview saved an extra copy of it anywhere. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:00, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
::::I think it was Stormrider who made it and if it was him it will take a while to recover it as he's gone for a long time. Dead Metal not signed in
::::Yea it was Stormrider who did it, I'll email him wanted to do that anyway.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:43, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

== Unprotect? ==

Could we unprotect this article? I have some edits to make regarding the toy. [[User:JW|JW]] 09:32, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Registered users like yourself should be able to edit. The page is only guarded against anonymous edits. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::Semi-protection applies to IPs and new accounts. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:15, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:::After the crash, the method I used to recreate my account seems to have left me as "new" in the eyes of Teletraan-1 . . . [[User:JW|JW]] 15:18, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

If you can't edit the article, post your edited version here (on the talk page) and someone will port it over. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Enh... it's been protected long enough, and all the big reveals have been made.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:21, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

== Errors! ==

I've noticed that his toy is almost never tansformed correctly, even on the box, longarm's head is half way folded, the head his difficult to transform making me have to use the tab on the back of his face, and just look at the pic on target.com!, or the box. should this be on trivia

== Hey guys... ==

he does change his energy sig according to the toy's bio. You might want to change the part about it only being a possibility, or the autobots just being arrogant.

== Toy Bio ==

Do we need a section for this? It doesn't reveal anything new. Usually we only include toy bio sections when they show us something the previous fiction doesn't.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:10, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
:Well, there is the information about the Elite Guard, and the ability to change energy signatures. I think that sheds light on the character. If that isn't enough, I don't mind if it is deleted. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:15, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
::Those are things we could likely just integrate into the intro paragraph.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:17, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

== Animated Shockwave Elite Guard faction symbol ==

"Graduating near the top of the class from the AUTOBOT Academy, he moved through the ranks of the Elite Guard, eventually becoming head of the Intelligence Division." - Shockwave's bio. The majority of fans aren't aware of Derek Wyatt's off-air remarks but may have read Shockwave's character bio. As far as they know, Shockwave moved up through the ranks of the Elite Guard. It is canon, at the very least in the [[micro-continuity]] that is Shockwave's character bio but arguably in the cartoon as well, since nothing in the cartoon itself really contradicts it. See also: [[Authorial intent|author intent]]. Shockwave's Elite Guard faction symbol has been removed a couple of times. I think it should be there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:11, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
:The fact that "LongArm Prime" has a standard Autobot insignia rather than the winged Elite Guard symbol contradicts it. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::That just means he isn't in the Elite Guard ''right now''. It doesn't mean he didn't move up through their ranks. Head of the Intelligence Division is apparently not an Elite Guard position. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Which is odd, because Blurr is both an intelligence agent, and in the Elite Guard . . . but as odd things in Transformers go, that barely rates. My opinion? The toy bio says he was once in the Elite Guard. The toy bio is canon. He should get the symbol, and a note saying he's not in the Guard ''now.'' [[User:JW|JW]] 22:09, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

== Capital A ==

I know that's how they did it in the credits of "TransWarped", and I don't have a DVD handy, being at work, so I can't check how "Autoboot Camp" did it, but the credits for "Where Is Thy Sting?" ''don't'' capitalize the A. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:31, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:(aaaaand I see the topic was raised a while back and I never spoke up about it. D'oh.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:32, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
::"Autoboot Camp" didn't capitalise the A either. Honestly, I'd be inclined to go with "Longarm" myself; it's the predominant parsing both in Transformers Animated fiction and Transformers fiction in general, to the extent that I'd be prepared to write off the "TransWarped" spelling as a typo. After all, if we were taking that episode's credits as gospel, shouldn't we also be moving our [[Hot Shot (Animated)|Hot Shot]] and [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]] pages to "Hotshot" and "Rodimus"? - [[User:Muddtallica|Muddtallica]] 07:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:::As I said, Wyatt capitalized the "A", in that Twitter entry about LongArm replacing Highbrow. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
::::And Bob Forward and Larry DiTillio consistently spelled Blackarachnia's name as Black Arachnia. That means nothing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:49, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::There are equally official sources for "Longarm," so I sure hope we can go back to that. You know, LONGARM is even more canonical, being on the toy package ;) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
::::::Are we just being deliberately retarded on this? Autoboot Camp, which came out first, parses his name 'Longarm'. http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/dlink/index.html?episodeID=8a25c3921fc6a295011fc9a121850188 This matches up with the model sheets, scripts, and just about everything else. Clearly TransWarped is the aberration here. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:07, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::::He was credited as "ShockWave" in [[This Is Why I Hate Machines]]. He was credited as "Shockwave" in earlier episodes, so I'm not suggesting a change or anything. Just pointing out an oddity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:09, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

== Actually, he seems to know exactly who he is. ==

:''He's been in deep cover on Cybertron for so long that even he probably doesn't know who he really is''

Is this from a bio somewhere? Because there's absolutely nothing in the cartoon that supports the notion. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 08:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

==The Arrival==
To whoever added this part: you can't use "Longarm had the Elite Guard symbol in ''The Arrival''" to justify him as being part of the Elite Guard, because his chest symbol was switched with Sentinel Prime's in that scene. The bio part stands, though. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 19:16, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
:In the Trade Paperback, unless I'm looking at it wrong, everyone in that scene has the wings.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

== Chugway ==

Frankly, I find this pretty amusing, but mainly because I was in time to see KrytenKoro's edit summary explaining where the name originated. Do we want to include an explanation for people who come here months or even weeks from now, or would that be killing the joke?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 10:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Elite Guard Status ==

''"Derrick J. Wyatt has informed this wiki that Longarm is not a member of that group in the cartoon. Shockwave's status as a nonmember of the Elite Guard is supported by Longarm's lack of the Elite Guard's winged Autobot symbol in the cartoon. However, he is drawn with an Elite Guard symbol in The Arrival #1."'' Can we please reach an agreement over whether or not Longarm is a member of the Elite Guard, and if so, whether the article should have the Elite Guard symbol at the top or not? [[User:Kit|Kit]] 08:34, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
:Derrick Wyatt's remarks are helpful, but do not trump actual fiction. At the very least, Shockwave was a member of the Elite Guard at one time. It appears that during the events of the cartoon, he was once, but no longer a member. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:09, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
::Ah, well that's all right then. Thank you for sorting it out. :) [[User:Kit|Kit]] 05:46, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:::This is actually false reasoning, Kit; in that issue, Sentinel Prime's Elite Guard symbol was consistently switched with Longarm's normal Autobot symbol. We can tell the symbols were an error because Sentinel Prime is referred to within the text of the story as the second-in-command of the Elite Guard (meaning he ''should'' have the symbol)... while Longarm Prime is, in comparison, the Autobot Intelligence Division Chief, which is not a part of the Elite Guard; Longarm Prime is never otherwise shown having the symbol, and his immediate predecessor as the head of the division, Highbrow, does not sport the Elite Guard symbol either.

:::However - while Longarm Prime may never have been a member of the Elite Guard in the cartoon continuity, his toy bio does describe him as being one. And as everything officially published is canon, that simply places his Elite Guard membership in an ''Animated'' toy bio [[micro-continuity]]... which is a valid reason for the page to retain the symbol. We'll just have to expand the note at the end. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:32, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Longarm's EG status is really only "ambiguous" if you validate authorial intent, and currently that is how this article has been shaped. Otherwise, his flashback dialogue says he wants to be EG and his package says he's EG. I really think that dramatically outranks Derrick's after-the-fact Twitter posts. We have official licensed evidence he is EG, and nothing official licensed that says he's not. Derrick is an awesome guy who helped put together an awesome series, but I don't think we should grant him canonization privileges beyond the norm just because most of us like him and his work. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:56, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I think Monzo has it absolutely correct. His bio says he's Elite Guard, so we note that. The fact that he's not wearing their symbol is pretty strong evidence that, in the mainstream continuity, he's not Elite Guard. It's not that easy to state a negative fictionally. I mean, Bumblebee says he wants to be Elite Guard, then there is a toy of him with Elite Guard symbols. Maybe HE'S in the Elite-Guard too! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:09, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::I thought EG-BB's bio made it clear that he painted himself to look like EG--requiring that he actually isn't one. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:50, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

== "Undisplayed Mode" ==

I don't know how valid a trivia item this is. Whenever he turns into Longarm his color scheme changes.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:07, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:In the very last episode, he turned into the Target-exclusive purple Longarm robot. We never see him as a purple crane, though. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:36, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
::Mentioning if modes go unused for a toy-based character sounds interesting, but where do you draw the line? There's a lot of toy characters who've appeared in fiction, but only in cameos. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 18:48, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Besides, I just looked at the last episode and I'm pretty sure his color scheme turns to gray when he becomes Longarm. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:07, 1 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, he DOES form a purple Longarm, but I don't think we want to go down that road. There are TONS of characters who never Transform into one or more of their modes. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:54, 1 August 2009 (EDT)

== Shockwave Voyager Toy's Upper Torso ==

''"They also fail to mention that you can push his upper torso forward as Shockwave to better replicate the slouch that he has in the cartoon."'' What is this line about? Am I missing something? The instructions do show Longarm's shoulders being pushed up and forward to form a part of Shockwave's upper torso. [[User:Noviere|Noviere]] 23:58, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
: Rotate the chest forward a notch where the bottom of the ribcage meets the tummy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:20, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
:: Whooooaaah. Holy hidden feature! Thanks ItsWalky. [[User:Noviere|Noviere]] 00:42, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

== Exclusive Yellow Eye? ==

When I was watching Peaugh's video review of Purple Shockwave, I noticed that his figure had a yellow eye. I know Peaugh frequently paints details on his figures, but in this video he didn't call it out. Is the actual toy endowed with a clear red or an opaque yellow eye? [[Special:Contributions/86.26.252.147|86.26.252.147]] 11:01, 27 October 2009 (EDT)
:It's red. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:32, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

==New pic?==
So, does anyone think he needs a new main pic? One of him in his "true colors?" I've got this one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Shockwave.jpg Yeah, it's cropped from Wyatt's pic, but I think it gets the job done. --[[User:Vicious|Vicious]] 22:53, 3 January 2010 (EST)

Megatron (BW)

2009-06-14T04:28:55Z

Vicious: Definitely not a potty mouth, but come on. This is a much better pic.

{{factions|predacon|vehicon|decepticon}}

{{disambig3|Megatron}}
:''Megatron is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]], a [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He's also briefly known as [[Noble|Savage and Noble]]. He's a busy villain, yesss.''

[[Image:Megatronbw.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Best. Megatron. Ever. Yesss...]]
'''Megatron''' began with one goal: restoring glory and power to the Predacon race, with himself at the helm. What distinguishes Megatron from the countless others who share this goal is his chutzpah. He is willing to risk everything—time, space, himself—if need be. And there were times he would have made it happen were it not for [[Optimus Primal]].

Megatron is skillful at orchestrating vast schemes by manipulating others into doing them for him—an idle suggestion here, a conspicuously-planted object of interest there. He knows his enemies, and these include [[Tarantulas|some]] [[Blackarachnia (BW)|minions]], inside and out and exactly how to provoke them. He has no friends, only pawns, or occasionally, [[Inferno (BW)|pawns that are too reliable to risk losing]]. Because of this attitude, this superiority complex, he despises working with the very troops he needs to carry out his plans. His hubris does not make him very popular, and so he must rely on power and fear to rule them. In fact, he prefers [[Vehicon (BM)|mindless drones]].

Megatron is a gambler and can sometimes be a ham. (His manner of saying "Yesss..." is practically vaudevillian.) He has a twisted sense of humor and an over-developed sense of drama which rule everything he conceives, both long and short term. When he destroys you, he wants you to know that it was he who did this, and just how badly you were had. This is his greatest weakness. Like a Bond villain, he'll gladly boast to the hero at length about how smart and clever he was, giving his victim time to formulate a counterattack (he admits the Predacons sometimes gloat too much). He often sabotages himself by neglecting the quick and easy solutions for the bigger, meaner, and more complex.

Prior to the signing of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], Megatron was a field commander in the Predacon army, where he learned much about strategy and tactics. Upon ratification of peace with the [[Maximal Imperium]] most Predacons laid down their arms. Megatron refused and went rogue.

{{quote|The universe cowered once at the name of Megatron and it shall do so again!|—Megatron, "[[Optimal Situation]]}}

:''Japanese name:'' '''Megaligator''' (Alligator version)
:''European-market name:'' '''Metal T-Rex''' (Transmetal version), '''Dragone''' (Transmetal 2 version)
:''Botcon 2008 script reading:'' '''Joe''' and later '''Joe Convoy'''
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Kǔng-lúng Wáng''' (恐龍王, "King Dinosaur", not ''[[Dinoking]]'')
:''Chinese name (China):'' '''Bawang Lung''' (霸王龍, "Tyrannosaurus")

==Fiction==
{{note|There are many ''Beast Wars'' continuities, but most use the ''Beast Wars'' and ''Beast Machines'' cartoons as a basis.}}

===''Beast Wars II'' catalog===
{{note|This fiction takes place before "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]".}}

[[Image:MegatronGalvatronBW1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Pwned.]]
On planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatron once disagreed with [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] over opinions on galactic conquest, and engaged him in battle over it. At the time, Megatron momentarily let his guard down, and was defeated. Galvatron declared "Your era is over, Megatron!"

Later, Megatron noted that while Galvatron was ambitious, he cared for his underlings—and although he was loathe to admit it, he acknowledged that Galvatron probably had all the regal bearing of a new [[Emperor of Destruction]]. {{storylink|Catalog}}

{{-}}

===Timelines===
====Theft of the Golden Disk====
{{note|This fiction takes place before "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]".}}
[[Image:Megatronbwtheft.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Megatron steals sacred Maximal cup coaster.]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[David Kaye]] (English)

Megatron was the star pupil of the crimelord [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]], and successfully carried out his plan to steal the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]]. Cryotek loved him like a son—which didn't stop him setting up Megatron to take the fall for the crime, knowing he'd betray him some day anyway. Unfortunately for Cryotek, "some day" was today—Megatron had everyone on the mission who wasn't loyal to him killed, had the data for the location of the Disk secretly decoded by [[Tarantulas]], and then kept it for himself while directing the Maximals to his tutor. This was the first known time that Megatron would co-opt the plan of someone who thought they were the ones being manipulative and backstabbing, but [[Other Voices, Part 2|wouldn't]] [[The Agenda (Part 2)|be]] [[The Agenda (Part III)|the]] [[Nemesis Part 1|last]]. {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk}}

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====Dawn of Future's Past====
{{note|This fiction takes place before "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]".}}
[[Image:Megatronbwsuit.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Megatron's technicolor dreamcoat.]]
On Cybertron, Megatron wore removable transformable armor, which transformed into a missile-launching armored platform, over his basic bodyframe (which transforms into a hovertank). This quickly-discarded outer shell was possibly used to comply with the ratification of the [[Pax Cybertronia]], which required Predacons to lay down their arms. A Predacon field commander before the peace, Megatron refused to comply with these new regulations and struck out on his own to destroy the [[Maximal Imperium]].

With some [[Cryotek (RID)|help]] from [[Divebomb (G1)|various sources]], he assembled a crew of ragtag criminals and miscreants for the purpose of stealing the Golden Disk and using it to find [[Earth]]. Succeeding in stealing the disk, he, [[Dinobot (BW)|his lieutenant]], and [[Scorponok (BW)|another accomplice]] fought their way out of the [[Archives]], eliminating [[Unit 1|one guard]] and dodging [[Tigatron|another]]. They were swiftly picked up by the ''[[Darksyde]]'', a ship stolen by the rest of their crew.

Megatron instructed [[Tarantulas]] to study the disk for the coordinates of Earth while the ''Darksyde'' battled its several pursuers. Although they were followed by the Maximal ships [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']] and the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', the ''Darksyde'''s mission was also aided by a third ship crewed by the Predacon agents [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. Though the ''Chromia 10'' and the Predacon ship were destroyed, the ''Darksyde'' was still followed by the ''Axalon''. Megatron removed his transformable armor and patched a video feed through to the ''Axalon''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s captain, [[Optimus Primal]]. Declaring himself the leader of the Predacons, Megatron opened a [[transwarp]] portal through which both ships travelled. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

====Bee in the City====

{{note|This takes place after Beast Wars, but its placing beyond that is unknown}}

Somehow ending up at the multiversal hub of [[Axiom Nexus]], Megatron hid out under the alias "Joe". When he ran into [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and learned of the [[Key]], he pretended to be a heroic character and helped rescue Bumblebee's friends, only to steal the Key. Using his experience with MacGuffins, he swiftly learned how to power himself and create an army. Unfortunately, his army turned on him after learning of bureaucracy and the amount of forms they'd have to fill in now that they were alive. However, before being carried away by his former minions, Megatron promised that he would be back, and that he would get his extremely overwrought and melodramatic revenge. {{storylink|Bee in the City}}

===Dreamwave Generation 1===
{{note|This fiction takes place before "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]".}}
After stealing the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], Megatron broke into [[Vector Sigma]] along with [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] and reviewed historical files on many of the Autobots and Decepticons from the era of the Great War. He told Dinobot to refer to him henceforth as Megatron. {{storylink|More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #8}}

{{note|The Golden Disk was wrongly drawn as the [[Golden Disk (Vok)|Alien Disk]]. This two-page story is contradicted by many other versions of the story—specifically Megatron's spontaneous renaming of himself—possibly placing it in a version of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] that occurs only in Dreamwave's Generation 1 continuity. Of course, Dreamwave chose that time to [[Pat Lee|fold]] before this could be explained.}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[David Kaye]] (English), [[Shigeru Chiba]] (Japanese), [[Antonio Moreno]] (Portuguese), [[Hans Sievers]] (German)

[[Image:Megatronbwspidersgame.jpg|left|200px|thumb|I thought I told you NO MORE BARNEY JOKES.]]
After stealing the Maximal relic, the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], and [[Darksyde|a ship]], he and his crew were followed through a [[transwarp]] portal by the [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']]. After crashing on a planet that was supposed to be [[Earth]], yet seemingly wasn't, both the [[Maximal|Maximals]] and the Predacons took organic beast forms to protect themselves against the massive amount of Energon radiation. Megatron now transformed into a purple ''Tyrannosaurus rex''.

Dinobot chastised Megatron, accusing him of leading the Predacons to the wrong planet and challenged Megatron for leadership of the Predacons. Megatron simply ignored the challenge and had Scorponok dispose of him. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)|Beast Wars (Part 1)}}

Despite the loss of a formidable crony, Megatron positioned himself on the new world and the "Beast Wars" began. Being on a world filled with Energon allowed [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] to find a superhorde, and power himself to great levels. With this power, Terrorsaur was able to demolish Megatron in battle and take over the Predacons. However, through the Maximals' actions, the superhorde was destroyed. Terrorsaur was eventually ridden of his newfound power and returned to an angered Megatron, who was rebuilt by [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]. {{storylink|Power Surge|Power Surge}}

[[Image:Megatronbwtrex.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Today is a beautiful day to be stomping on things!]]

Again, Terrorsaur tried to usurp Megatron, this time using an apparently-turned [[Rattrap]], who used a device to paralyze Megatron. The Predacons argued over who would be leader, but agreed to put Rattrap and Megatron away for the time being. Megatron was able to easily escape using his secret voice commands, leaving Rattrap to his fate. Revealing himself to have escaped, Megatron allowed Terrorsaur to lead the Predacons in battle with the Maximals. Terrorsaur failed miserably, showing his ineptitude to the Predacons, which was Megatron's plan all along. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy|Double Jeopardy}}

Megatron later formulated a plan to get off Earth. First, he had the other Predacons act dissatisfied with his leadership, causing a battle that apparently destroyed the Predacons, using a Maximal spy camera that he was aware of to play out the trick. Then, the Maximals scavenged the ''Darksyde'' for parts to repair the ''Axalon'''s stardrive. Dinobot discovered the deception and rushed to warn the leaving Maximals. In the scuffle, Megatron snuck aboard. In the ''Axalon'', he managed to knock out every Maximal on the ship but Rattrap, who he started crushing to death. An angered [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] woke up and threw Megatron off the ''Axalon''. However, Megatron's tail weapon was stuck in the console, causing the ''Axalon'' to crash. Again. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

[[Image:Megs transmetal.JPG|left|180px|thumb|Gimme fuel Gimme fire Gimme that which I desire BOOM!]]

Later, Megatron caught wind of the return of the [[Vok]] and called a ceasefire between the two factions, realizing he had more important things to worry about. He carefully manipulated events so the Maximals would find out about the Vok and that Tarantulas's attempt to escape with a modified stasis pod would succeed. {{storylink|Before the Storm|Before the Storm}} The Vok did indeed return, and planned to destroy the planet the Transformers were on with their massive [[Planet Buster]] (cleverly disguised as the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]). Optimus Primal stopped the Buster by using Tarantulas's stasis pod as a kamikaze weapon. Megatron, having planned (via a virus) to hijack the pod for that purpose anyway, decided to take advantage of this and locked the pod door so that Primal could not escape and was destroyed alongside the Planet Buster. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2|Other Voices, Part 2}}

The [[quantum surge]] from the exploding planet buster bathed Megatron in quantum energies, upgrading him into a [[Transmetal]]. Megatron quickly rallied his forces and attempted an all-out attack on the leader-less Maximals. Megatron and the Predacons took the upperhand in battle until a Transmetal Optimus Primal (brought back online by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]) saved the day. He was annoyed to find the Disks had been stolen from him by Dinobot and that [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] had destroyed his back-ups (while lying that Dinobot had done it). {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

With both factions now aware that the planet they were stranded on was really prehistoric [[Earth]], Megatron was free to put his full plan into motion. He continued his operations without the Disks and successfully retrieved them, simultaneously plotting to alter history and to exploit any new Vok incident. However, both the Maximals and Tarantulas ruined his attempt to hijack the Vok [[Metal Hunter]] {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)|Other Visits (Part 2)}}, and Dinobot both destroyed the Golden Disk and ruined Megatron's attempt at eradicating the human race's prehistoric ancestors to alter the Great War. {{storylink|Code of Hero|Code of Hero}} With the humans scattered, only a fragment of the Disk remaining and the quantum surge meaning the [[Tripredacus Council]] knew where to send their agents, Megatron could only gamble. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)|The Agenda (Part 1)}}

[[Image:Agenda3 MegatronOptimusPrime.jpg|right|250px|thumb|A little off the top, sir?]]

The gamble paid off; the Tripredacus Council sent former Decepticon [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to capture Megatron, while Blackarachnia fled to the location of the crashed [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], having gained its location and [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]]'s access codes from the Disk back-ups. From behind his cell, Megatron manipulated Optimus Primal into a trap while using the Disk's one last fragment (containing part of the original Megatron's message) to get Ravage to switch loyalties to him. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)|The Agenda (Part 2)}} While his army fought the Maximals, Megatron arrived at the Ark just as Blackarachnia had done all the work for him and forced her to give him access. He finally took "the ultimate risk", the mission from the first Megatron that he'd been previously been unwilling to completely follow, and attempted to alter history by assassinating the unconscious [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. By doing so, he intended to ensure the defeat of the [[Autobot|Autobots]] and thus the victory of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] and Predacons. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)|The Agenda (Part III)}}

The Maximals managed to save Prime's life by having Teletraan I repair his body while Optimus Primal kept his spark within his own structure, transforming his body into a more powerful form. The Maximals defeated Megatron and returned Prime's spark to its proper place. {{storylink|Optimal Situation|Optimal Situation}}

[[Image:Megatrontm2render.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Two Megatrons for the price of one.]]

Megatron did not rest. He went on to [[Transmetal driver|reverse-engineer alien technology]], gained by means unknown, to create the [[Transmetal|Transmetal 2]] process and create himself a loyal clone of Dinobot. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 1|Feral Scream Part 1}} He also worked towards taking control of Optimus and seizing control of the new Maximal base, allowing him to enter the Ark again. Wanting to replicate the effect Optimus Prime's spark had on Primal, he deliberately took the spark of the original Megatron and placed it in his body. He was transformed into a powerful dragon and able to give Optimus Primal a sound beating, until chased away by the recovered Maximal group. {{storylink|Master Blaster|Master Blaster}}

[[Image:Megs tm2.JPG|right|180px|thumb|Red dragon, without Hannibal Lecter.]]

Even this power was useless when [[Tigerhawk]] arrived and casually destroyed the Predacon base. {{storylink|Other Victories|Other Victories}} Desperate once again, Megatron investigated the now-deceased Tarantulas's base for anything of value—and found the legendary Decepticon battleship, the [[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]], rebuilt and with Transwarp capabilities. Bringing it out of the ocean depths, Megatron intended to pilot it back to the future and lay waste to the Maximals on Cybertron. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1|Nemesis Part 1}}

First, however, he planned to annihilate the entire Ark rather than simply Optimus Prime.

Primal infiltrated the Nemesis and kept Megatron busy until Rhinox could fly a shuttlecraft through the bridge and take the Predacon out. The Nemesis crashed a second time and thus preserved history. After returning the original Megatron's spark to its proper body, the Maximals headed back to Cybertron with the incarcerated Megatron shackled to the outside of their ship. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2|Nemesis Part 2}}

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===''Tales of the Beast Wars''===
{{note|This fiction takes place during the first season of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.}}

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{{storylink|Ground Zero}}

{{note|This fiction takes place during the second season of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''. The Shokaract events ended with them being paradoxed out of existence.}}
[[Image:Antagony megatron.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Kinky.]]
[[Antagony]], future-born Herald Maximo of [[Shokaract]], arrived on prehistoric Earth to protect the Dark Essence of [[Unicron]]. She attempted to terminate Megatron, who quickly conned her into fighting Optimus and then took her captive when she went into stasis lock. {{storylink|Visitations}}

He began patiently (and happily) torturing her for information on the future she came from, and when that failed he hacked into her mind using a nanoprobe "mind drill". That triggered a suicide device that killed her before he could gain any information; Megatron was left with no information, beyond that her master would surely try again.

{{note|This fiction takes place after "[[Master Blaster]]".}}
Almost immediately after his transformation into dragon form, Megatron detected a temporal breach. Having his troops ambush the Maximals (who had also detected), he attempted to reach the time-traveller ([[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]]) and gain access to the future, not caring what would happen if he took the original Megatron's spark with him. In the process, he encountered the Dark Essence and almost became a willing vessel for it, until it realised Windrazor would be easier to control. When the Fuzor fought the influence off, Shokaract himself emerged. {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox}}

Megatron's reaction to a horrifically powerful spark-devouring demigod, and time and space being shattered into a chaotic maelstrom was to blackmail said demigod by opening fire on the Dark Essence of the Chaos-Bringer, demanding knowledge of the future or he'd cause the erasure of Shokaract's future. Megatron is ''hardcore''. He failed, but this was a crucial distraction that helped bring about Shokaract's defeat. {{storylink|Terminus}}

===''Beast Wars II'' cartoon===
{{note|This fiction takes place during the first season of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]''.}}
[[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] tried to summon a Megatron to [[Gaea]] using a time machine. [[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger|Maybe this one. Maybe not.]]

When his brother [[Megastorm|Gigastorm]] screws up the wavelength calculations and instead summons the titanic [[Majin Zarak]], Galvatron is pleased and declares, "we obtained a weapon far superior to Megatron". {{storylink|Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger}}

===''Robot Masters''===
====Pack-in comic====
====Cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Toshitsugu Takashina]] (Japanese)

{{note|This fiction takes place after ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger]]''.}}
Taking advantage of the [[Blasty Zone]] as a means of time travel (and apparently size-enhancer), Megatron journeyed to a point in history where the original Megatron had gone missing, leaving the [[Decepticon]]s without a leader. "Beast Megatron" took command of the Decepticons, leading them on a quest to collect a powerful element, [[solitarium]], from within the Earth. Beast Megatron's plans were quickly thwarted by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and a troop of time-displaced Autobots and Maximals, including [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]], [[Lio Convoy]] and Beast Megatron's arch nemesis, [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!}}

Beast Megatron later discovered a large deposit of solitarium beneath [[New York City]], and along with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Smokesniper]], [[Gigant Bomb]] and [[Wingstun]], laid waste to the Big Apple. The Autobots, accompanied by [[Reverse Convoy]], arrived and dealt with Beast Megatron's forces quickly. However, Reverse Convoy revealed himself to be the original Megatron in disguise and betrayed them. Now going by the name [[Megatron (G1)|Rebirth Megatron]], he teamed up with Beast Megatron and the pair made trouble for the Autobot commanders. However, the Autobots were able to defeat the two Megatrons, sending the villains into retreat. {{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

====Online comic====

===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
{{note|This fiction takes place after "[[Changing of the Guard]]".}}
[[Image:IDW Megatron Magmatron.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Go back to anime, Magmatron!]]
In Lio Convoy's opinion, Megatron was a simple wild card, no real threat when compared with [[Magmatron]]. This drives home the fact that Cybertron had no idea of the damage Megatron had and would inflict, or the lengths he would go to becoming arguably the most powerful Transformer since the Great War.

After dispatching [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] to oversee the installation of [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]] into the [[Darksyde]], Megatron was attacked by Magmatron, who had been assigned to arrest him by the [[Tripredacus Council]]. Although Megatron proved more than a match for the experienced Predacon general individually, he was ambushed and paralyzed by [[Iguanus (BW)|Iguanus]] and [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]]. Magmatron intended to use a [[transwarp shunt]] to transport his prisoner back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 3|The Gathering #3}} Thanks to the intervention of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Optimus Minor]], and [[Razorbeast]], Magmatron was sent home empty-handed. Razorbeast was tempted to dispatch the prone Megatron, but released him instead, due to his desire to avoid interfering with the timeline. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 4|The Gathering #4}}

{{note|This fiction takes place during and after "[[Nemesis Part 2]]".}}
[[Image:MegatronAscending4.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Oh, we are so dead]]
Ravage attempted to free Megatron after his capture, but didn't progress very far in his plans. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending #1}} Despite this, Megatron arrived to a battle-damaged Cybertron, having finally completed his transwarp journey, and having arrived long before the Maximals responsible for his defeat, thanks to Shokaract's suicide, with little else to stand in his way. Yessssss... {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}
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===''Beast Machines'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[David Kaye]] (English), [[Shigeru Chiba]] (Japanese), [[Francisco José]] (Portuguese), [[Jan Spitzer]] (German)

[[Image:Megatron for life.jpg|left|180px|thumb|"If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear. If you've something to hide, you shouldn't even be here..."]]
Breaking free from his constraints on the Autobot shuttle while it traveled through transwarp space, Megatron arrived back home on Cybertron well before the Maximals did. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} He used the window of opportunity for maximum effect, releasing a [[Transformation virus|virus]] across the planet that quickly incapacitated the population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} He then began extracting the victims' [[spark]]s and storing them in a citadel, planning to one day absorb them into his own spark. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege}} Meanwhile, he used factories to rebuild the bodies into mindless [[drone]]s he called "[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]." {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} Eventually, he had almost every spark on Cybertron in his possession.

Clearly Megatron had changed since the Beast Wars, not only in his goals, but also in his mannerisms. Gone was the ham who sought conquest for the sake of glory and power and the Predacon cause. He spoke not of revenge on the Maximals, but rather of the liberation of all Transformerkind from the chaos of free will. He referred outright to his own ascension to godhood. And he had also developed a sense of honor, keeping his word to his enemies even at the risk of future losses. {{storylink|The Weak Component}} This was quite the change, as right up to the end of the Beast Wars he would flatten a subordinate for even mentioning "the H word." {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}} In that time, he had also positively ''reveled'' in his dinosaur and dragon beast modes. But on his return to Cybertron, something convinced him that beast modes and other vestiges of the organic were an abomination which should be scoured from the planet, leaving only technological purity. Despite his pontifications, Megatron himself had not achieved the "purity" of which he spoke. His dragon form remained, and at times, it overwhelmed his control. His unfruitful attempts to remove the organic elements from his own body became a source of constant frustration. This was a new and even madder Megatron.

{{note|The time period from when Megatron broke free from the shuttle, to when Optimus Primal and the Maximals arrived on Cybertron, was vastly transformative for both Megatron and the planet, and probably constituted an epic story in its own right. Nevertheless, the period was only vaguely described in the cartoon and barely elaborated upon in secondary media. Many questions remain unanswered.}}
When the Maximals arrived in their shuttle, they found the planet empty aside from Vehicons who immediately attacked them with canisters of a gas that infected them with the virus. The fully-Transmetal among them "devolved" into their original beast modes but were able to keep moving and escape. The remaining two, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] and [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] (who never received any form of upgrade on Earth), were instead paralyzed and quickly overtaken. Their sparks soon joined Megatron's collection. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}}

The escaped Maximals would have succumbed to the virus eventually if not for the [[Oracle]] [[reformatting]] them. This was the beginning of Megatron's undoing, for their new [[technorganic]] bodies were both immune to the virus and (while in beast mode) invisible to Vehicon sensors. Megatron's first resulting change in strategy was to imbue three Vehicons with captured sparks so they could think on their feet in battle. The original personalities of these "[[Vehicon general|generals]]" were deeply buried under shell programs, which allowed Megatron to use sparks of the Maximals' former allies. Thus, if the Maximals discovered who they really were, they would be reluctant to destroy them. The recently-captured Silverbolt and Rhinox were made into [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] and [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], respectively. The third general, [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]], was created from the Predacon [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] for reasons that remain opaque.

[[Image:Survivor Megatron dragon.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just don't call him "Patches" or he'll scorch your ass.]]
Megatron considered using the same technology on himself, transferring his own spark to a "pure" Vehicon body. But he decided it was not worth the risk to expose his spark, however briefly. Previously, he had apparently been attempting to use alternative methods of transforming his current body into a purely technological one without leaving it or becoming unconscious—with little success, though his dragon form had taken on a ragged patchwork "cyborg" appearance as a result of these failed attempts.

Rhinox eventually awakened and went rogue, planning a grand scheme to usurp Megatron's dominance, but Megatron effortlessly seized control of his traitor-general's evil plan at the last minute and almost wiped out all resistance with the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]. At the last moment, Optimus unleashed the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]] force {{storylink|End of the Line|End of the Line}} and the combined energies destroyed Megatron's body. He was presumed dead, but the combined energies had actually succeeded in separating his organic half from his body—unfortunately, his spark went with it and was now trapped in a purely organic Transformer. He took the identity of "innocent" Maximal [[Noble]] and, preying on [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream's]] survivor guilt and Optimus's inherent goodness, got the Maximals to help transfer his spark to the [[Grand Mal]], a vessel shaped in his own head. {{storylink|Prometheus Unbound}}

With Tankor destroyed and Jetstorm eventually reformatted into Silverbolt, Megatron used the sparks of famous generals [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] to replace them. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} He also managed to gain a link to the [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]] itself, stealing the knowledge from Primal. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search}} This gave him the ability to move ahead with his grand plan—to consume the captured sparks and eventually consume/replace the [[Allspark]] itself—but Nightscream temporarily stopped him by depolarizing Megatron's own spark. Now severed from a body, it jumped between discarded shells and attacked everyone in a zombie like fashion. Rattrap would use a [[spark extractor]] to repolarize his spark, allowing Megatron to regain his senses, but trapping him in a [[Diagnostic Drone]]. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}

[[Image:Megatron Sparkwar Search.JPG|left|180px|thumb|"We've been expecting you, Mr. Anderson."]]
Immediately following this, Megatron launched an all-out battle for the sparks and succeeded in capturing them, as well as the sparks of all the Maximals and obliterating their [[technorganic]] orchard—leaving just Optimus Primal and himself as the only two Transformers on the entire planet. To add insult to injury, he uploaded his spark into a copy of Primal's old Optimal Optimus form. Over the conflict, his personality had gradually become more like that of his Beast Wars self, and by this point he was once again hamming it up—revelling in his victory, mocking his enemies (his stated reason for copying Optimus's old body) and deliberately not killing Optimus outright, and having melodramatic outbursts when in his new body.

[[Image:Optimalmegatronoptimusprimal.jpg|right|150px|thumb|They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.]]
At the end of a fierce one-on-one fight, Megatron won and began consuming his amassed sparks, growing ever more powerful and planning to become both the new Matrix and the new core consciousness of Cybertron. However, he'd made his old mistake—leaving Optimus alive (to make him watch his "ascension") instead of killing him. When he attempted to use the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to transform the planet's [[organic core]] into [[technomatter]], Primal managed to dislodge them both. They plummeted into the planet's goopy core and from there, Primal was able to reformat the entire planet, destroying himself and Megatron completely, but freeing all the lost sparks to repopulate their newly redecorated planet. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}

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===Transformers Legends Anthology===
{{note|This fiction takes place during "[[Spark of Darkness]]".}}
When Megatron was defeated by Nightscream, the spark of Rhinox attempted to act as a spirit guide and redeem the tyrant. Megatron proved to be a lost cause. While briefly tempted to move on, his inherent hypocrisy manifested and—despite fervently advocating the eradication of individuality—refused to relinquish his own identity. Rhinox’s attempts at enlightenment were misconstrued, and his efforts only strengthened Megatron’s desire for apotheosis. Repeated returns to Cybertron convinced him that godhood was still within his reach and as he charged his particles with “purity of purpose”, erased Rhinox's spark from existence.

===''Universe'' comic===
{{note|This fiction takes place after "[[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future]]".}}
When [[Optimus Primal|Optimus Primal's]] spark is revived from the within the Matrix to protect the multiverse, this action freed Megatron's spark as well. The reborn Megatron returned to the ranks of the Predacons, but this time, Optimus Primal found himself in an uneasy alliance with him against Unicron. Megatron traveled with his old nemesis from universe to universe, wherever the growing multiversal conflict had spread. But now with Unicron disappeared into the [[Unicron Singularity]], it remains to be seen whether Megatron's insane ambition will resurface.

Prior to the Universe Conflict an alternate dimension's Megatron was killed by a [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Tigerhawk]] who was corrupted by the Vok. Yet another dimension's Megatron was killed by its reality's [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]. All three Megatron-murderers were eventually promoted to the rank of [[Unicron's General]]. It seems that killing Megatron may be part of Unicron's criteria for choosing a General.

===''Beast Wars Reborn''===
{{note|This fiction takes place after "[[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future]]".}}
[[Image:BeastWarsRebornMegatronArtwork1.jpg|right|233px|thumb|Reborn on the wagon of a travelin' show, Primal used ta dance fer the money they'd throw! Megatron would do whatever he coooouuuld!]]
Both Megatron and Optimus Primal awoke inside a bizarre temple-like spaceship which was hurtling through space. Neither had any memory of who they were or how they got there, only their own names and a feeling of discomfort between one another. The pair went about investigating the ship in search of answers. While Megatron's memory was lost, his personality remained mostly intact: he was more concerned with seizing control of the ship before Primal did in order to gain the upper hand.

They eventually found a data log and discovered that their sparks had been taken and they were reborn into new bodies (unbeknownst to them, bodies identical to their original Earth forms). However, their memories were intentionally not uploaded into their new bodies. While searching the log they discovered that the ship's main power source was a [[Golden Disk]] lodged within a giant pillar. Megatron immediately raced to obtain the Disk and Primal followed him. The closer they got to the disk the more the ship attempted to thwart their advance by manipulating its atmosphere conditions.

Once they reached the chamber the ship's environment suddenly morphed to that of a decaying planet littered with the corpses of robots. The corpses came to life and began shambling toward them, intent on eating their sparks. They made short work of the zombies, leaving Megatron to obtain the Golden Disk and Primal with a feeling that he shouldn't entirely trust Megatron.

From another dimension beyond time and space, [[Primus]] recognized that something was amiss and sent one of his messengers to meet Primal and Megatron within the spaceship. {{storylink|The Mysterious Temple in Space}}

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===''Beast Wars Metals'' comic===
{{note|This fiction takes place after an altered version of the first season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon.}}
After killing Optimus Primal in a Transwarp explosion, Megatron was mutated by the resulting Quantum Surge into a Transmetal, as was every other Transformer on [[Earth|Energoa]]. With their leader dead and their forces scattered, Megatron wasted no time in plotting an immediate counter-attack on the Maximals. Quickstrike and his drone forces were sent to attack the Maximal base while, with Tarantulas's help, Megatron recovered and resurrected Primal's body as a mindless killing machine.

Through a strange voodoo ritual, Megatron attempted to use his mutated blood to put Primal's body under his everlasting control. However, with the intervention of Rhinox, Primal's spark was retrieved from Transwarp Space and returned to his body. Primal swiftly defeated Megatron in battle. {{storylink|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!}}

===3D Battle-Card Game===
Megatron leads a ragtag group of Decepticon warriors from various backgrounds (and/or universes) against Optimus Primal and his Autobot allies.

==Toys==
:''Main article: [[Megatron (BW) toys]]''

==Merchandise==
:''Main article: [[Megatron (BW) toys|Merchandise]]''

==Notes==
[[Image:Dinobot Clone.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A picture can tell lots without words.]]
*Hasbro originally intended Inferno to be the new body for Megatron. According to [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/b334d45514e26ab4/bc8e54e9165e0823?hl=en&lnk=st&q=bob+forward+interview+inferno+megatron&rnum=1#bc8e54e9165e0823 a 1997 interview conducted by fan HooksX], Bob Forward stated: "For a while there Hasbro was planning to make the Inferno toy the new Megatron. We were going to kill Megatron and bring him back as Inferno."

*Throughout the series, Megatron seems to have a mild obsession with creating [[Clone|clones]] of Dinobot, as seen with the [[Dinobot Clone|purely biological clone]], the [[Cyber raptor|Cyber raptors]] and [[Dinobot II]]. Some people never know when to let a relationship go.

[[Image:BWRConcept35.jpg|right|200px|thumb|TM2 Megatron's control art. Look! Spark figure! Painful amounts of detail!]]
*The Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'' chose to interject humor at every available opportunity. Due to this, Megatron's personality and character were taken on a complete U-turn. Instead of being a smooth and charismatic leader, he was a screaming maniac and a bumbling oaf. His most notable character-trait in Japan was that whenever he was fired-upon or startled he would let out a high-pitched shriek like a [[Scorponok (BW)|little girl]].

*Megatron was mentioned in the [[Sector Seven (game)| Sector Seven game]],belonging to a Spider T which may or may not be [[Tarantulas]], Megatron was described as "a purple lizard. Said "Yes!"" a lot and was called a "Silly Tin Tyrant". "Sleeping Dragon" was also said which could be a mention of Megatron's Dragon Mode.

*During the ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon, Megatron said "yesss..." 166 times, and "no..." 54 times. Someone was clearly bored, yesss.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/MegatronGator/megatron.htm Megatron at TFU.info]
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Maximal/BeastChanger/beastchanger.htm Beast Changer at TFU.info]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hJkvwoddxY All of Megatron's Yeeeessss's and No's in Beast Wars on YouTube]

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Talk:Megatron (BW)

2009-06-06T06:27:27Z

Vicious:

Y'know the BW Meg's was probably the most successful of all Megatron's. The guy managed to kill Optimus 3 time in his career, nearly rewrote all of history and managed to completely dominate Cybertron for a brief time.

Also, he never took to calling himself Galvatron when he changed. I give him bonus points for that.
--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 13:32, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

...he had a Cybertron toy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, silly me, I forgot that the new BWX toys wern't cybertron, I'll edit them back to the way they were.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 01:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody else notice in [[Beast Wars|BM]] he had the obsessive habit of saying 'Yesss' repeatedly in every episode? I think it is his favorite word, or he needs self-reassurance of everything that he says.[[User:Snarl7|Snarl7]] 15:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm just curious if anyone else finds it that all references to David Kaye or Megatron with yes in it have it where the end is elongated, and not the middle (as 'yeess') because that's basically how it is said. With it like 'yessss' it makes him sound like a snake or something. Just throwing that out there.[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 16:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

==Continuity==
That Table of Contents doesn't look right to me. This section:

# 1.1 American animated continuity

* 1.1.1 Timelines: Dawn of Futures Past
* 1.1.2 Dreamwave Comics continuity
* 1.1.3 Beast Wars
* 1.1.4 Tales of the Beast Wars
* 1.1.5 IDW Beast Wars: The Gathering comics
* 1.1.6 Beast Machines
* 1.1.7 3H Universe Comics

Seems like it should be broken down more. I mean, I'm not sure ''how'' exactly, but all of that stuff isn't really part of a single continuity, is it? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:I think the DW comics bit will be retconned out by this year's Timelines set, so I think we can move that eventually. And IDW's BW series may eventually write itself out of continuity. Otherwise, yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
::The IDW and 3H comics are part of a single continuity? I didn't think they were compatible with each other. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Furman has stated that theirs is in-continuity with the show, but in a separate timeline than previous material. Of course, that means nothing until there are actually irreconciliable differences, and I don't believe that's happened happened yet. When that day comes, I will gladly put IDW's material in its own subheading. (From what I understand, the Timelines story will try to reconcile with both 3H and IDW's material through non-contradiction, if not outright affirmation.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
::::You mean like 3H's Primaeval dawn (set after Beast Wars) being 180,000 years ago, and IDW's series (during BW) being set 70,000 years ago?
::::Contradictions like that? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::Right. That doesn't bother me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::Well, the Japanese Micromasters stuff places BW at 3 million years ago. So it's nothing if not conflicted.
::::::(I tend to agree BTW, while the different dates indicate the two versions of events are not in strict continuity with one another, there is nothing that keeps the events of one from more-or-less happening in the other- yet.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:28, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

:Is there a page somewhere that lays down how all the continuities, series, etc. should be subdivided? I'm definitely in agreement with Kil that the mess of little BW continuities shouldn't be lumped together in chronological order as though they were all meant to fit. Here's how I would do it:

Fiction
Mainframe animated continuity
Beast Wars
Beast Machines
Japanese continuity
BWII catalog
BW Metals manga
BW Reborn manga
Robot Masters
3H comics continuity
Omega Point
Universe
Dreamwave comics continuity
IDW comics continuity
Timelines continuity

:I lump all the Japanese stuff together because I don't know how they fit or don't fit. They might need to be separated further.
:The only logic I can see to the current setup is that all of those series do share the BW toon as a starting point. But there's almost no concordance (and a fair bit of contradiction) between the various offshoots. So presenting them all mushed together in a shoehorned "chronological order" is more headache-inducing and just plain misleading than breaking them out.
:- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Yea, hell If I had my way on this wiki, there would be no divide between US and Japan continuity,
[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

:The problem is- that strategy only works while everything meshes smoothly. With BWMegs, we actually have parts of the '''US''' continutiy that are dropping out- at which point it becomes irresponsible to nto seperate other non-central material.
:Some of ythese characers/backstories/histories are so complicated that all you can do it try to present it in a format where the reader a) is able to get a general impression b) is able to make their own judgement on the material, based on the division you made-- what fits with what, etc. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

::And thank God you never will, X-Bob. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 21:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

== S1 VS set ==

Was it ever defined if the red Batimus and purple Megagator were the same characters as Primal and Megatron? Also, are we going to list the first BW Primal and Megs toys as versions of G1 Prime and Megs, because they are if you go by the specs.
:They're BW Megs/Primal, I'm told. It says "OPTIMUS PRIMAL" and "MEGATRON" behind their recolored-CGI-commercial packaging art. Also, as I'm typing this, their cards also seem to mention "trailer truck" and "Walter P38", but in what context, who knows. So, uh, hold that thought. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

==Japanese Background==

Derik pointed me in the right direction of the story page which was printed in a toy catalogue, featuring the background history between Megatron and [[Galvatron (BWII)]]. I didn't know where to place this in the article, as it was a single story page from a catalogue rather than a typical manga magazine and didn't seem worthy of it's own little section. I did what we do to seperate the Marvel US and UK stories with italics. If any of you can think of a better place to cram it, feel free. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

::I had friend of mine (a native Japanese speaker) look at the story page(s) from the catalog, and I've adjusted both Megatron and Galvatron's pages accordingly. Here, for future reference, are the pages and translations:

[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/BW2Catalog00a.jpg Page 1]

:"The stage of the battle moves on to the Second War... Beast Wars, Transform!"
:"Around the same time that Convoy and Megatron were locked in their death struggle... in the far reaches of the galaxy, on a planet located in the Solar system, a Cybertron space patrol and Destron armored platoon begin battle!! What is the ultimate weapon "The King of Angolmois" that sleeps in the ancient ruins of this planet? In the seventh month of the Space Year 1999, will the heroic Cybertrons win!? Or will it be the evil Destrons!? Now, you too must participate in the new Beast Wars!"

[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/BW2Catalog01a.jpg Page 2]

:Speech bubble emanating from Megatron says: "This guy is the Destron New Emperor of Destruction, Galvatron!"
:Quote from Galvatron: "Your era is over, Megatron!"
:Main paragraph (apparently narrated by Megatron): "When I was on planet Seibertron, I once disagreed with Galvatron over our opinions on space conquest, and we battled."
:"At the time, I let down my guard and was defeated!"
:"Although he is ambitious, he also cares for his underlings, and although I do not enjoy saying this, he probably has all the regal bearing of a new Emperor of Destruction."

[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/BW2Catalog02a.jpg Page 3]

:Speech bubble emanating from Convoy says: "Let me introduce the new leader of the Cybertrons, Lio Convoy!"
:Quote from Lio Convoy: "Leave the rest to me, Convoy Sempai!"
:Main paragraph (apparently narrated by Convoy): "He had been an ace in the Cybertron Space Patrol. He's strong and brave, and furthermore is kind: an ideal leader. He has a tendency to be too straight-forward, but I hope that he'll do his best for peace in space. I'm leaving it to you, Lio Convoy!"

Ta da. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

==Control Art==
I question not only the placement of the control art, but, well, if it really needs to be there at all. I'm not sure what having the art there is FOR. --[[User:68.189.152.138|68.189.152.138]] 07:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

::It's placement next to the TOC is (relatively) unobtrusive, but I agree, its purpose in beign there is kinda mysterious.

::I love the pic of Megatron's spark figure though. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I came here expecting to edit an image caption into something funny, but it seems true masters have already been at work here. Well done. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
:The "Dinosaur Comics" bit is SHEER GENIUS. --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 22:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

== Timelines? ==

Is there any reason why the Timelines Megatron from Botcon isn't listed amongst his toys? --[[User:74.57.3.251|74.57.3.251]] 21:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

==this may have nothing to do with the artice but...==
you just HAVE to see this. watch at 2:47, 2:49, and 5:43. ''fuuuunny'' stuff.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hJkvwoddxY&feature=related]

:Just to let everyone know, I saw this remark ''after'' I put a link to that video on the page. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 17:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

It is funny but what episoden was it where he was brushing his teeth [[User:Chromia|Chromia]] 16:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
==Dah dah huh==
Ok. don't get it...[[User talk:GWolfv2|User_talk:GWolfv2]]

I'm not sure as I didn't add it, but I'm gonna assume that it's the repetitive percussion/bass-line from the first movement of Gustav Holst's suite, "The Planets," entitled "Mars: The Bringer of War." Then again, it could be Vader's theme or whatever it's called from Star Wars. I feel much better assuming it's "Mars," but until someone owns up to it, I don't know.[[Special:Contributions/208.104.144.58|208.104.144.58]] 16:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:Whatever it is, it is so unclear to anyone besides the original author as to be useless, so I ganked it. This, frankly, is a developing problem with how our humor policy has been used. If no one gets it, by definition it is not funny. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

==Split time?==
This article's getting long. Time to split off the toy section, perhaps? Is that gonna screw up a bunch of links? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

==Robot Heroes==
Couldn't we put in images of the Robot Heroes Megatron vs. Rattrap and Transmetal Megatron vs. Silverbolt? I mean, the images are on Hasbro. -- 206.253.51.107 11:22, 8 August 2008
== Dimishing his accomplishments? ==
Is it just me or have recent media really been determined to make Megatron's accomplishments less impressive than they were during the TV series? Thanks to 3H, FunPub and Furman, Megatron's plot to steal the golden disk turned out to be Cryotek's idea, who also invented the transformation-lock virus thing and helped Megatron take over Cybertron prior to BM. Then thanks to the Ascending series, it turns out that Megatron didn't even conquer a full-powered Cybertron, but rather a weakened Cybertron on the brink of chaos thanks to Shokaract and the Anglomois debacle (which was also responsible for him getting freed from the Autobot shuttle early)... I dunno, it just makes ol' grapeface here seem less impressive and more a mere opportunist who's got a good case of dumb luck. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah...no. Megs took Cryotek's paln, and turned it around so Megs got away and Cryo got arrested. And one Transformer taking the entire Cybertronian race out is phenomenal. Sorry, Megs is King of Schemes. [[User:GWolfv2|GWolfv2]] 23.33 15th Aug
:[[Talk:Theft of the Golden Disk#So.2C_did_Megatron_ever_do_anything_himself.3F|I actually brought it up in an edit summary, and got a response from Walky.]] [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
:G1 Megs was a scientist in his own right- not in Starscream's glass, but respectable enough to formulate his own inventions, solo.
:BW Megatron wasn't a renaissance 'bot like that- that was never his appeal. He was a cockroach. You COULD NOT KILL HIM. You think you've got him on the ropes, think you've deprived him of his support, underlings, resources etc... and he'd somehow END UP ON TOP AGAIN. Really in the last 5 years or so I've seen this kind of villain get more lve from fiction- the kind of guy who can make you crap your pants whenever he shows up-- who is ''not'' diminished by his many defeats (many villain's weight or threat hinges on their unbeatableness.) BW Megs is crap-your-pants dangerous, no matter ''how many times'' you defeat him. And he will ''always'' escape to fight again.

:You know he's alive, right? He was seen in Universe. A whiole planetful of people in new bodies, no one knows who's who... everyone thinks Megatron's dead... and he's loose in the system.
:Defeating him utterly makes him ''more'' dangerous, not less. Look at how BW ended. ...and as a result he conquered all of Cybertron. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

== Megatron/Iguanus basic fig ==
Iguanus' article says that he's a retool of Megatron. Megatron's article says that he's a retool of Iguanus. Which is it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

:They came out at practically the same time, more or less, so... the world may never know. If I had to cast a vote, I'd guess the special 2-pack came first, making Iguanis the retool. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Main article pic ==
Is it a guide rule that we have to use season 1 character bodies for BW characters? Just cos I think that the previous picture was cooler (although my view is coloured by the fact that his TM1 body is my favourite body for Megs) [[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 05:40, 25 January 2009 (EST)

:Yeah, [[:Image:Megatronbw.jpg|the TM1 pic]] was infinitely cooler than [[:Image:BWMegsYoshioka.jpg|the current one]]. I'm pretty sure its badassery was half the reason it ''had'' the "Best. Megatron. Ever." caption, which just doesn't fit with this one. (The other half being that he ''was'', pending ''Animated'' Megatron.) I'm guessing there isn't a hard and fast guide, considering the main pic on [[Brawl (Movie)]]. The differences betwen vanilla Megs and TM1 megs in non-beast mode are pretty low-key anyway, compared to the other characters' differences and TM2. --[[User:Fleb|Fleb]] 23:17, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
::The previous main pic was several million times better. I don't know why it was replaced with the current silly-looking one, but really it should be changed back. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:21, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:::It '''is''' a general guide-rule that we use first toy bodies for main pictures, although I don't think it's's actually codified anywhere. (Brawl's Cyber Slammers artwork is technically still artwork of him in his original body.)
:::The current main pic is the best I could come up with for art of Megatron's original show form. I ''do'' have much better Japanese art of Megs in his crocodile form (and Primal in his bat form), but nobody seemed very keen on this when I brought it up before. (I'm also not personally super-keen on the Guido pic because it's kinda dark.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:52, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
::: I find that Megatron did most of the stuff that makes him such a good Megatron in his Transmetal body. I'm all for restoring the Transmetal image. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:05, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
::::I threw a tiny fit at Monzo when he first took it down. My feelings stand! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:08, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I prefer the Transmetal art, as well. As much as I like Yoshioka, that art doesn't capture Megatron's Western personality well at all (though it is a fine example of his goofier Japanese persona). So yeah, bring back the Guido. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 11:21, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Bring back the awesome, shiny dino! The caption fits ''so'' much better with that pic, that's all I'm gonna say.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 12:05, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Did that new Megatron pic come out of a coloring book? Bring back the last one. Seriously. --[[User:Vicious|Vicious]] 02:27, 6 June 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Rodimus Prime (Animated)

2009-05-30T21:51:03Z

Vicious: /* Minor? */ new section

It isn't a spoiler to say that Rodimus survived the cosmic rust attack and is recovering? What if a fan (who wasn't at TFcon2009) is waiting to see what happens to him? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:34, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
:If it's something declared openly by a creator, then no, it's not a spoiler. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:46, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
It's my fault, I asked him that question at TFcon just to put an end to people thinking HE IS DEAD. It's Rodimus Prime people, they won't nix him. [[User:Protoman|Protoman]] 20:23, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
:Now that it never happened, what do we do with it? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:05, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::He's in the lower right hand side of the crowd scene in Endgame, isn't he?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:53, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Sorta hard to say; given the amount of other coloring errors/generics in the picture its hard to know if its really supposed to be him or not. It does appear to be his model, though, and it's colored mostly right (the solid orange forearms throw it off)... Probably a case of mentioning that he "might have appeared". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::::It's hard to say if he is there, I feel like Derrick said that only to not break my heart cause he knows how I am with Rodimus characters :P I dunno. I can't really make out anything that is 100% him in the crowd. Maybe we will get an IDW book that will answer the mystery (as well as other loose ends due to Endgame Part 2)[[User:Protoman|Protoman]] 20:59, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::::If his forearm plating got rusted off, it would need to be replaced. Possibly with solid orange ones? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:22, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
== Prime ==

Could we get a citation for Rodimus being a Prime? I think it's behind a firewall. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:12, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:Uh, the credits of "[[TransWarped]]" and [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 24|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #24]]? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:22, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::The credits of TransWarped just say "Rodimus", and the club mag isn't publicly available for all to cite. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:24, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:::He's also the leader of his group of Autobots, which automatically makes him a Prime, since that's how rank works in Animated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:49, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

== Minor? ==

==Minor?==
Wasn't he revealed at the Hasbro panel to be Rodimus Minor? --[[User:Vicious|Vicious]] 17:51, 30 May 2009 (EDT)

Slipstream (Animated)

2009-05-30T21:10:34Z

Vicious:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-designation}}
:''Slipstream is a <s>nagging harpy</s> [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]]''.

[[Image:Femalescream-ABTC.jpg|thumb|300px|You say "bitch" like it's a ''bad'' thing!]]

The [[Starscream clone]] that raises the most questions, the purple and pale teal, female '''Slipstream''' possesses considerable strategic thinking, a biting sense of humor, and a short temper. Like all of the clones, she represents an aspect of the [[Starscream (Animated)|original Starscream's]] personality... though which aspect that is, he's better off not asking (or so she says).

Practically everything she ever says to the original Starscream is an insult of some form. Really makes you wonder about Starscream, doesn't it?

{{quote|''Any'' leader has to be an improvement over you!|Slipstream offers an opinion on her template|"[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tara Strong]] (English), [[Silvia Mißbach]] (German)

[[Image:TFA ABTC1 Screamer Clones Argue.jpg|thumb|left|thumb|"I hope you get ''pregnant'', you cheap little tarts..." ("Er, ''him'' get pregnant?")]]

When the clones were brought online, Starscream was confronted with various personality issues. Slipstream revealed that each one represented an aspect of his personality: [[Thundercracker (Animated)|megalomania]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|cowardice]], [[Sunstorm (Animated)|bootlicking]], and [[Liar Starscream|deception]]. When Starscream asked where she came from, Slipstream informed him that he was better off not knowing. Once they were ready to depart, Egomaniac pushed Starscream aside, and the original realized that he really ''was'' a pain in the gearshaft. Slipstream bitingly noted that he'd finally "arrived at the party", then childishly claimed that she wasn't starting anything. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

Slipstream proved to be a capable fighter, managing to get a pair of stasis cuffs on the massive [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]. After the original Starscream was decapitated by [[Isaac Sumdac]] piloting a [[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]] unit, she promptly declared that she was better off being led by [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]. When [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]] joined the battle, she and the other Decepticons were blasted away. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

Slipstream apparently decided to lay low on Earth after the space bridge battle, managing to evade capture unlike her fellow clones (and several non-clone Decepticons). However, when she spotted a [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|red figure flying through the sky]], she mistook it for Starscream and chased after it in a rage. When she saw it was Optimus, she shot at him anyway, and then fled the scene. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Femalescream-full.jpg|thumb|150px|"Try Blue! It's the new red!"]]

* Where Slipstream got her colors from was hotly debated by the fandom, with the most frequent guess being ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. However, when contacted about it, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] revealed that her color scheme was actually "loosely inspired" by the Japanese [[Godmaster]] [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]. Unexpected! Still, half of Overlord ''was'' [[Mega|technically female]]...

* While the Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female "Seekers" (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme), this is the first canonical female character to share a body template with Starscream. This is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

* This may well be the "female ''without'' a tragic past" hinted at by the production team at [[BotCon 2008]], although maybe they meant [[Slo-Mo]]. Although it's debatable how tragic she would consider being Starscream's clone is.

* Slipstream could also be some sort of reference to the unusually large (and occasionally somewhat disturbing) number of female fans that the various [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]] characters have attracted over the years.

* When asked which aspect of Starscream's personality she represents, Derrick Wyatt responded with "I try not to think about that one!"<ref>http://community.livejournal.com/tf_animated/271043.html</ref> He also confirmed that she's not his self-loathing.<ref>http://twitter.com/yuefairchild/status/1819450817 http://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1823006574</ref>

* Her name was finally revealed, at BotCon 2009's Hasbro panel<ref>'''[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2009-hasbro-product-preview-panel-and-qa-167769/ BotCon 2009's Hasbro panel]'''</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Animated characters]]
[[Category: Cartoon-only characters]]
[[Category: Clones]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]

Slipstream (Animated)

2009-05-30T21:00:48Z

Vicious: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-designation}}
:''The Female Starscream is a <s>nagging harpy</s> [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]]''.

[[Image:Femalescream-ABTC.jpg|thumb|300px|You say "bitch" like it's a ''bad'' thing!]]

The [[Starscream clone]] that raises the most questions, the purple and pale teal, female '''Slipstream''' possesses considerable strategic thinking, a biting sense of humor, and a short temper. Like all of the clones, she represents an aspect of the [[Starscream (Animated)|original Starscream's]] personality... though which aspect that is, he's better off not asking (or so she says).

Practically everything she ever says to the original Starscream is an insult of some form. Really makes you wonder about Starscream, doesn't it?

{{quote|''Any'' leader has to be an improvement over you!|The Female offers an opinion on her template|"[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tara Strong]] (English), [[Silvia Mißbach]] (German)

[[Image:TFA ABTC1 Screamer Clones Argue.jpg|thumb|left|thumb|"I hope you get ''pregnant'', you cheap little tarts..." ("Er, ''him'' get pregnant?")]]

When the clones were brought online, Starscream was confronted with various personality issues. Slipstream revealed that each one represented an aspect of his personality: [[Thundercracker (Animated)|megalomania]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|cowardice]], [[Sunstorm (Animated)|bootlicking]], and [[Liar Starscream|deception]]. When Starscream asked where she came from, Slipstream informed him that he was better off not knowing. Once they were ready to depart, Egomaniac pushed Starscream aside, and the original realized that he really ''was'' a pain in the gearshaft. Slipstream bitingly noted that he'd finally "arrived at the party", then childishly claimed that she wasn't starting anything. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

Slipstream proved to be a capable fighter, managing to get a pair of stasis cuffs on the massive [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]. After the original Starscream was decapitated by [[Isaac Sumdac]] piloting a [[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]] unit, she promptly declared that she was better off being led by [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]. When [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]] joined the battle, she and the other Decepticons were blasted away. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

Slipstream apparently decided to lay low on Earth after the space bridge battle, managing to evade capture unlike her fellow clones (and several non-clone Decepticons). However, when she spotted a [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|red figure flying through the sky]], she mistook it for Starscream and chased after it in a rage. When she saw it was Optimus, she shot at him anyway, and then fled the scene. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Femalescream-full.jpg|thumb|150px|"Try Blue! It's the new red!"]]

* Where Slipstream got her colors from was hotly debated by the fandom, with the most frequent guess being ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. However, when contacted about it, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] revealed that her color scheme was actually "loosely inspired" by the Japanese [[Godmaster]] [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]. Unexpected! Still, half of Overlord ''was'' [[Mega|technically female]]...

* While the Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female "Seekers" (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme), this is the first canonical female character to share a body template with Starscream. This is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

* This may well be the "female ''without'' a tragic past" hinted at by the production team at [[BotCon 2008]], although maybe they meant [[Slo-Mo]]. Although it's debatable how tragic she would consider being Starscream's clone is.

* Slipstream could also be some sort of reference to the unusually large (and occasionally somewhat disturbing) number of female fans that the various [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]] characters have attracted over the years.

* When asked which aspect of Starscream's personality she represents, Derrick Wyatt responded with "I try not to think about that one!"<ref>http://community.livejournal.com/tf_animated/271043.html</ref> He also confirmed that she's not his self-loathing.<ref>http://twitter.com/yuefairchild/status/1819450817 http://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1823006574</ref>

* Her name was finally revealed, at BotCon 2009's Hasbro panel<ref>'''[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2009-hasbro-product-preview-panel-and-qa-167769/ BotCon 2009's Hasbro panel]'''</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Animated characters]]
[[Category: Cartoon-only characters]]
[[Category: Clones]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]

Slipstream (Animated)

2009-05-30T20:59:52Z

Vicious:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-designation}}
:''The Female Starscream is a <s>nagging harpy</s> [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]]''.

[[Image:Femalescream-ABTC.jpg|thumb|300px|You say "bitch" like it's a ''bad'' thing!]]

The [[Starscream clone]] that raises the most questions, the purple and pale teal, female '''Slipstream''' possesses considerable strategic thinking, a biting sense of humor, and a short temper. Like all of the clones, she represents an aspect of the [[Starscream (Animated)|original Starscream's]] personality... though which aspect that is, he's better off not asking (or so she says).

Practically everything she ever says to the original Starscream is an insult of some form. Really makes you wonder about Starscream, doesn't it?

{{quote|''Any'' leader has to be an improvement over you!|The Female offers an opinion on her template|"[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tara Strong]] (English), [[Silvia Mißbach]] (German)

[[Image:TFA ABTC1 Screamer Clones Argue.jpg|thumb|left|thumb|"I hope you get ''pregnant'', you cheap little tarts..." ("Er, ''him'' get pregnant?")]]

When the clones were brought online, Starscream was confronted with various personality issues. Slipstream revealed that each one represented an aspect of his personality: [[Thundercracker (Animated)|megalomania]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|cowardice]], [[Sunstorm (Animated)|bootlicking]], and [[Liar Starscream|deception]]. When Starscream asked where she came from, Slipstream informed him that he was better off not knowing. Once they were ready to depart, Egomaniac pushed Starscream aside, and the original realized that he really ''was'' a pain in the gearshaft. Slipstream bitingly noted that he'd finally "arrived at the party", then childishly claimed that she wasn't starting anything. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

Slipstream proved to be a capable fighter, managing to get a pair of stasis cuffs on the massive [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]. After the original Starscream was decapitated by [[Isaac Sumdac]] piloting a [[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]] unit, she promptly declared that she was better off being led by [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]. When [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]] joined the battle, she and the other Decepticons were blasted away. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

Slipstream apparently decided to lay low on Earth after the space bridge battle, managing to evade capture unlike her fellow clones (and several non-clone Decepticons). However, when she spotted a [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|red figure flying through the sky]], she mistook it for Starscream and chased after it in a rage. When she saw it was Optimus, she shot at him anyway, and then fled the scene. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Femalescream-full.jpg|thumb|150px|"Try Blue! It's the new red!"]]

* Where Slipstream got her colors from was hotly debated by the fandom, with the most frequent guess being ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. However, when contacted about it, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] revealed that her color scheme was actually "loosely inspired" by the Japanese [[Godmaster]] [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]. Unexpected! Still, half of Overlord ''was'' [[Mega|technically female]]...

* While the Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female "Seekers" (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme), this is the first canonical female character to share a body template with Starscream. This is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

* This may well be the "female ''without'' a tragic past" hinted at by the production team at [[BotCon 2008]], although maybe they meant [[Slo-Mo]]. Although it's debatable how tragic she would consider being Starscream's clone is.

* Slipstream could also be some sort of reference to the unusually large (and occasionally somewhat disturbing) number of female fans that the various [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]] characters have attracted over the years.

* When asked which aspect of Starscream's personality she represents, Derrick Wyatt responded with "I try not to think about that one!"<ref>http://community.livejournal.com/tf_animated/271043.html</ref> He also confirmed that she's not his self-loathing.<ref>http://twitter.com/yuefairchild/status/1819450817 http://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1823006574</ref>

* Her name was finally revealed, at <ref>'''[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2009-hasbro-product-preview-panel-and-qa-167769/ BotCon 2009's Hasbro panel]'''</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Animated characters]]
[[Category: Cartoon-only characters]]
[[Category: Clones]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]