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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Waspinator user: /* movie pictures */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should the mention of &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; as the most recent incarnation of Transformers be replaced by &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039;? [[User:Amadeus|Amadeus]] 19:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and changed it from &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]&#039;&#039;. [[User:Amadeus|Amadeus]] 19:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m going to change it to the movie line, but do we really want to have to constantly update this?  Maybe it should be removed altogether.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, I daresay this is no longer a stub. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 06:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split Species / Toyline? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wondering if there was support for splitting this into two articles &amp;quot;Transformers (species)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Transformers (toyline)&amp;quot; or if folks prefered it as the one joint article? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I support a split. Although &amp;quot;toyline&amp;quot; isn&#039;t the right word... and neither is franchise.  They both already have established meanings in our nomenclature.  &amp;quot;Brand&amp;quot; would probably be best.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:25, 13 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: &amp;quot;Brand&amp;quot; seems to be the word Hasbro uses.  --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sorry... did you just say the Transformers aren&#039;t robots? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Uh, yeah. Mr. IP Address, aren&#039;t the tagline &amp;quot;robots in diguise&amp;quot;, the term &amp;quot;robot mode&amp;quot;, and four whole lines referring to the Transformers as robots right in their titles enough to convince you that&#039;s what they are? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:23, 2 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: A robot, by definition, is ...&amp;quot;1. A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance. 2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control. 3. A person who works mechanically without original thought, especially one who responds automatically to the commands of others.&amp;quot; Try arguing with the American Heritage Dictionary, and then read the phrase &amp;quot;species of robot&amp;quot; and tell me it sounds intelligent. The Transformers are self aware and under nobody&#039;s control. Thus, they are not robots. &lt;br /&gt;
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:: Also, the fact that children almost always associate the term &amp;quot;robot&amp;quot; with something like the Transformers means that Hasbro was and still is smart enough to market their product with that subtitle.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Uh, how about the fact that Transformers themselves referred to insecticide that works on other Transformers as [[Robotic insecticide]], if you want self-reference by characters in the fiction? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;And if we&#039;re talking unnatural life forms, we gotta be talking about just one thing! &#039;&#039;Robots in disguise!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; - Cheetor, first episode of &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;  --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I had a valid retaliation in store, but I believe &amp;quot;sentient robot,&amp;quot; which has been edited in, sums everything up. Sorry for the disagreement.  -{{unsigned|71.98.142.204}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toy section==&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;quot;toys&amp;quot; section here is pretty much useless, particularly in light of the articles [[Toy]], [[Franchise]], and [[Transformers brand]].  I&#039;m thinking a disambig up front would be a better way to do the job: &amp;quot;This article is about the fictional robots.  For the physical toys, see...&amp;quot;   ...hrm.  See what, exactly?  What say you? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Aw, c&#039;mon, we should copy-paste the Toys section from every page on the wiki into that section.  It&#039;d be hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
::(Alternately: &#039;&#039;See also: [[Main Page|Everything on the wiki]]&#039;&#039;) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Everybody Poops ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of Transformer biology... I thought I&#039;d point out that [[Underworld!]] takes place in Cybertron&#039;s &amp;quot;long-disused sewer system.&amp;quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:45, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== In General (Abilites) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, gang; how should I go about shoehorning this into the article? I&#039;m thinking one sentence after the one about distinct mechanical parts, but I don&#039;t want to foul up the section and force the admins to clean up my mess. How does &amp;quot;Some of these parts grant certain Transformers unique abilities like [[Teleportation|teleportation]] or the creation of [[Hologram|holograms]].&amp;quot; sound? - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:29, 3 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== movie pictures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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please add a picture of a transformer in the movie --[[User:Waspinator user|Waspinator user]] 01:37, 10 September 2012 (EDT)waspinator user&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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