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User:Wednesday

2014-05-29T21:31:37Z

Wednesday:

Chris and Joy and everyone were having lots of fun /
Superbook fell off the shelf. Crap!

When it hit the computer, oh, they were surprised /
Superbook got OCRd / How does that even work

Superbook!
Superbook! It took your dog!

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2014 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2014-05-29T21:30:35Z

Wednesday: /* Poll entries */

User:Wednesday

2013-05-30T04:42:56Z

Wednesday:

Chris and Joy and everyone were having lots of fun / Superbook fell off the shelf. Crap!

When it hit the computer, oh, they were surprised / Superbook broke the keyboard and
/ That gets expensive fast / Really expensive fast

Superbook! It took your dog!

User:Wednesday

2013-05-30T04:42:08Z

Wednesday:

Chris and Joy and everyone were having lots of fun
Superbook fell off the shelf. Crap!

When it hit the computer, oh, they were surprised
Superbook broke the keyboard and
That gets expensive fast
Really expensive fast

Superbook!
Superbook! Take a look
Superbook! It took your dog!

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2013-05-30T04:39:09Z

Wednesday:

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for '''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers them separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[May 31]]st, 2013'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Rewind --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:35, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Ravage, Sideways, Ultra Magnus -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Overlord, Sky-Byte, Unicron [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 12:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Ratbat, Ravage, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 12:56, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blurr, BW Megatron, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Whirl [[User:Fireshot|Fireshot]] 12:59, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bruticus, Devastator, Primus, Rattrap, Unicron -[[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 13:17, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Menasor, Springer, Tarantulas, Tracks [[User:Phantom_Dusclops'92|Phantom Dusclops'92]] 13:29, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica, Fortress Maximus, Swindle, Swoop, Ultra Magnus - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage (Beast Wars)]], [[Rattrap]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle (Animated/G1)]] --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hound, Ratbat, Sideswipe, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 13:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Scrounge, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Venom --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime --[[User:Anguirus|Anguirus]] 14:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Tarantulas -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 14:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swerve, Tarantulas -- [[User:General Tekno|General Tekno]] 14:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Buzzsaw, Nightbeat, Prowl, Tarantulas, Thunderwing -- --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 14:30, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Scorponok, Sunstreaker, Swindle - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Drift, Injector, Knock-Out (Prime), Megatron (BW), Tarantulas --[[User:EvoChanger|EvoChanger]] 14:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Rodimus, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Trixter|Trixter]] 14:41, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Amadeus Windfall|Amadeus Windfall]] 14:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Rodimus, Rung. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Astrotrain, Cosmos, Cyclonus, Omega Supreme, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Pinecronix|Pinecronix]] 14:57, 24 May 2013 (EDT))

*Demolishor (Armada), Hot Shot (Armada), Override (Cybertron), Red Alert (Armada), Sideways (Armada). --[[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] 15:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:06, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Omega Supreme, Ravage, Rodimus -- [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 15:09, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Omega Supreme, Prowl, Swindle, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cosmos, Prowl, Sky-Byte, Tarantulas, Warpath --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] 15:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Cyclonus, Deszaras, Powered Convoy, Star Saber -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] 23:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Sideways, Swoop, Ultra Magnus --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUi299]] 15:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (G1), Blades (G1), Punch, Side Burn (RID), Smokescreen (G1) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 16:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Rung, Sari Sumdac, Silverbolt (BW), Teaspoon -- [[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] 16:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Metroplex, Sky-Byte, Wreck-Gar --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:05, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Omega Supreme, Overlord, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:11, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Smokescreen, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Russellestate|Russellestate]] 16:07, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Prowl, Ratbat, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:MarkMontag|MarkMontag]] 16:25, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Sideswipe, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Deathsaurus, Megatron (BW), Skywarp, Swindle, Thundercracker -- [[User:Rayqui|Rayqui]] 17:45, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Prowl, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Beast Megatron, Ratbat, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle, Wreck-Gar --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Hot Shot, Megatron(BW), Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 18:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Knock Out, Ravage, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- [[User:Strangefour|Strangefour]] 18:18, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Airazor, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Rattrap, Terrorsaur -- [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Lugnut, Sky Byte -- [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Prowl, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], [[Rattrap]]--[[User:Damo|Damo]] 18:46, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cheetor, Ginrai, Megatron (Beast Era), Optimus Primal, Thunderwing --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime),Blitzwing(Animated),Bulkhead (Prime), Megatron (BW),Rihnox (BW)--[[User:Venowtron|Venowtron]] 18:19, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Swindle, Ultra Magnus --[[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] 19:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blitzwing, Devastator, Predaking, Sky-Byte --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] 19:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Jetfire, Prowl [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 20:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Red Alert (g1), Rewind, Thunderwing, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Autobot Hunter|Autobot Hunter]] 20:10, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Cheetor, Optimus Primal, Sentinel Prime, Wreck-Gar. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 20:13, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Prowl, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ketchup|Ketchup]] 20:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Jetfire, Prowl --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:21, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Skids, Smokescreen, Thundercracker --[[User:Hhall3|Hhall3]] 19:39, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*G1 Hot Spot, G1 Quickmix, G1 Rodimus Prime, G1 Searchlight, G1 Silverbolt - [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 21:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime), Bulkhead, Hound, Jetfire (G1), Ultra Magnus --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:38, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Jetfire, Megatron (BW), Scorponok, Skids -- [[User:Chip|Chip]] 22:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Ratbat, Ultra Magnus - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 22:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Megatronus Prime/The Fallen, Prima, Primus, Unicron, Thunderwing -- [[User:Primus Dave|Primus Dave]] 22:42, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Skywarp, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 23:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Broadside, Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Megatron (BW), Omega Supreme --[[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 23:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Star Saber, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] 00:20, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Ultra Magnus --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:33, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (BW), Nemesis Prime, Omega Supreme, Optimus Primal, Vector Prime --[[user:Dinobot III|Dinobot III]] 01:16, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bruticus, Devestator, Galvatron, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus, --[[user:Japanasaurus Rex|Japanasaurus Rex]] 02:57 24 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Brawl, Bruticus, Prowl, Rotorstorm, Sixshot --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 04:10, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Kickback, Omega Supreme, Shrapnel, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ultra Magnus 506|Ultra Magnus 506]] 07:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Chromedome, Megatron (BW), Ravage, Rewind --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 07:50, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blitzwing (Animated), Ironfist, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar (Animated) -- [[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 08:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Fortress Maximus, Impactor, Springer, Ultra Magnus [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 08:06, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Prowl, Springer [[User:Gryllid|Gryllid]] 08:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Drift, Ironfist, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] 10:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Red Alert, Wreck-Gar [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 11:08, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Devastator, Springer, Swindle, Ultra Magnus [[User:Spark Mandrill|Spark Mandrill]] 11:41, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bruticus, Cheetor, Devastator -- [[User:Chihooaher|Chihooaher]] 11:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Bludgeon, Cyclonus (G1), Kup, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Starscream0625|Starscream0625]] 11:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 13:21, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Caius|Caius]] 14:26, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways (Multiversal Singularity?)]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:AlephTrion|AlephTrion]] 14:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Demolishor, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sideways --[[User:Zorion|Zorion]] 22:46, 25 May 2013 (MSK)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Barricade64|Barricade64]] 14:51, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Overlord (G1), Ravage, Seaspray, Unicron, Wreck-gar)-- ([[User:Geminia999|Geminia999]] 15:15, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Hot Rod (G1), Lugnut (Animated), Megatron (BW), Sky Byte (RID), Ultra Magnus (G1) --[[User:Blackout_501st|Blackout_501st]] 16:13. 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Galvatron, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Hot Shot, Unicron --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 17:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Jetfire, Kup, Overlord, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Astrakhan|Astrakhan]] 17:46, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Astrotrain, Cheetor, Silverbolt (BW), Springer, Swindler (Micromaster Delorean) --[[User:Wheeljack539|Wheeljack539]] 18:12, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rodimus Prime --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 19:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Overlord, Sky-Byte --[[User:TrentTroop|TrentTroop]] 20:00, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* [[Megatron (BW)]], [[Metroplex]], [[Omega Supreme]], [[Optimus Primal]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:IronVenom|IronVenom]] 20:19, 25 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage --[[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 22:25, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Jetfire, Nemis Prime, Rampage (BW), Ravage, Sunstorm --[[User:KWAC|KWAC]] 20:13 May 25 2013 (EDT)

*Lockdown, Ratbat, Rattrap, Sideways, Sky-Byte --[[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 01:18, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bludgeon, Bugbite, Jhiaxus, Ultra Magnus, Whirl --[[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 01:27, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Prowl, Ravage, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker -- [[User:RagdollDark|Dark]] 09:44, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Acid Storm, Air Raid, Brawl, Sky Lynx, Superion -- [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 12:44, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bludgeon, Cyclonus, Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Whirl -- [[User: OptimalPrime|OptimalPrime]] 9:46, 26 May (EDT)

* Chromedome, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus -- [[User: Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:30, 27 May (GMT)

* Bruticus, Jetfire, Reflector, Sky Lynx, Windcharger -- [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:02, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus (G1), Lugnut, Megatron (Beast Wars), Swerve (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1) --[[User:Bullycon|Bullycon]] 20:58, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Omega Supreme, Ratbat, Springer, Ultra Magnus, Whirl --[[User:transfan20|transfan200]] 22:02, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica (BW), Impactor, Megatron (BW), Mirage (G1), Whirl --[[User: BScorpinok75 | BScorpinok75]] 22:35, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blitzwing, Chromedome, Overlord, Rattrap, Whirl --[[User:SamuraiMarmoset | SamuraiMarmoset]] 24:12, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Prowl, Springer, Swerve, Rumble --[[User:Ender | Ender]]

* Arcee, Mirage, Overlord, Prowl, Springer -- [[User:Cat|Cat]] 11:44, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Jetfire (Armada), Megatron (Beast Wars), Metroplex, Prowl, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Cradok|Cradok]] 12:53, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (Beast Wars), Prowl, Ratbat, Swerve, Whirl -- [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 13:13, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Prowl, Rattrap, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Servitor 2152|Servitor 2152]] 13:17, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Prowl, Sky-Byte -- [[User:AwesomeAutobot|AwesomeAutobot]] 13:28, 27 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Bulkhead, Devastator, First Aid, Impactor, Ratbat -- [[User:Excise|Excise]] 13:35, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Beast Wars Megatron, Hot Rod/imus, Skywarp, Springer, Thundercracker -- [[User:PsychoAndy|PsychoAndy]] 14:32, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, [[Turbofire|Hotrider]], Nightbeat, Rattrap, Springer -- [[User:Danja|Danja]] 16:20, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Devastator, Jetfire, Sunstorm, Swindle -- [[User:Steftimusprime14|Steftimusprime14]] 16:38, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ratbat, Skywarp -- [[User:EShadowP|EShadowP]] 21:59, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Kup, Prowl, Rumble, Sunstreaker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Newsy891|Newsy891]] 22:04, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Perceptor, Prowl, Red Alert, Sunstreaker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Mechabot|Mechabot]] 22:34, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Erector, Kranix, Rattrap, Rumble, Sky Lynx -- [[User:Siccoyote|Siccoyote]] 01:37, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rampage (BW) Rattrap, Thunderwing -- [[User:Jupr1|Jupr1]] 08:43, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Metroplex, Prowl, Skywarp, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Shado prime|-Shado Prime]] 12:14, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Alpha Trion, Cyclonus, Perceptor, Scorponok, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 12:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Omega Supreme, Scorponok, Scourge, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:49, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blades, Hot Shot, Lugnut, Swerve, Thundercracker -- [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] 16:28, 28 May 2013

*Devastator, Omega Supreme, Prowl, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Eaglewings1788|Eaglewings1788]] 18:49, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead (Animated), Lockdown, Megatron (BW), Prowl (Animated), Skybyte [[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 21:07, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia, Elita One, Predaking, Smokesceen -- Femtransfan

* Metroplex, Rumble, Skyfire, Superion, Ultra Magnus --[[User:REMINATOR | REMINATOR]] 22:03, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bruticus, Lugnut(Animated), Overlord, Rampage(BW), Whirl -- [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 08:12, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cliffjumper, Hot Rod, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 10:14, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Galvatron, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Unicron --[[User:Altercron|Altercron]] 19:14, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Elita One, Hot Rod, Prowl, Punch -- [[User:Flydie|Flydie]] 19:23, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead (Prime), Prowl, Rodimus Prime, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Sean Whitmore|Sean Whitmore]] 17:27, 29 May 2013

*Arcee, Elita One, Hot Shot, Slipstream, Terrorsaur --[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]] 8:31,29 May 2013

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Elita-One, Ravage, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Wednesday|wednesday]] 00:39, 30 May 2013 (EDT)



[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

Buzzsaw (SG)

2011-07-08T05:57:15Z

Wednesday: /* Notes */ Schulz, not Schultz!

{{factions|sgDecepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon mini-cassette|his evil counterpart|Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw}}
:''Buzzsaw is a heroic [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]] from the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Recordicons3-buzzsaw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|<nowiki>|| | | ||| | || | ||| || |</nowiki>]]

'''Buzzsaw''' is one of [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]]'s heroic [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette]]s.

{{quote|<nowiki>||| | | | || | || | | | || ||| | || | | | ||| | | || ||</nowiki>|Buzzsaw, [[Recordicons|Recordicons #3]]}}

==Fiction==
===Shattered Glass===
[[Image:Soundwave buzzsaw shattered glass.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Blink and you'll miss him.]]
Buzzsaw took part in the attack on the ''[[Ark (SG)|Ark]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s launching platform, though his actions during the battle went largely unrecorded. When [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] eventually emerged victorious, Buzzsaw retreated with the rest of the [[Decepticon]]s. {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}

===Recordicons===
After [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] recounted "the Transformers' '''''[[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction (SG)|Greatest battle on Earth!!!]]'''''", Buzzsaw questioned whether or not there was, in fact, a highway, and exactly how "digital", in fact, the doom was. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #3|Recordicons #3}}
{{-}}

==Notes==

*Buzzsaw and [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] presumably derived their [[Earth]] condor modes from the same transmissions as [[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]], [[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]] and [[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]], though why they would choose such a form as their [[Robot mode|primary mode]] remains a mystery.
* It is entirely possible that Buzzsaw is actually using [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]'s colors.
* Buzzsaw's speech quirk in ''[[Recordicons]]'' is based on Woodstock's from Charles Schulz's comic strip ''[[wikipedia:Peanuts|Peanuts]]''.

[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Mini-Cassettes]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Decepticons]]

Talk:Minerva (Animated)

2011-06-09T20:45:51Z

Wednesday: at least they didn't use "eh"

"dontcha know"? Did she really say that in the script reading? Because if that's a reference to the "landing in Quebec" thing, it makes about as much sense as New Yorker suddenly busting out "I tell you what"s. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:20, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
: Agreed. Canada isn't a nation of Edie McClurgs. Did they specify where in Quebec she landed, and what language the human driver spoke? Which Canadian accent did the actress use? Am I being too pedantic? Yes? Yes. Still. --[[User:Wednesday|wednesday]] 16:45, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

User:Wednesday

2011-06-05T06:00:18Z

Wednesday:

Look! Biscuits!

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2011 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2011-03-28T18:59:55Z

Wednesday:

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2010-06-21T05:07:59Z

Wednesday: /* Image */

'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that's what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn't cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I'd need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Bumblebee (Movie)

2010-06-20T23:30:00Z

Wednesday: /* Giant promotional Bumblebee */

So, like I said, this is just to kick around a movie character page until we figure out how we're going to organize everything. There's a few areas I think need adressing.

*First is the disambiguation description. Currently I have it as (Movie) but do we want to change it? I think we should, in at least because we actually have another Transformers movie floating around. Additionally, while the movie is the main focus, there is other content within the canon that is non-movie.

*Continuity Family description. While "Transformers (2007)" is probably the best we have, it'll kind of sound a bit weird if we ever get a further stuff in this unverse at a later date. (Movie) would also a bad term IMO. Not sure if there's a better option though.

*Fiction Descriptions. There's at least three key areas of fiction that will be relevant (four, perhaps, if the IDW movie adaptation has stuff that isn't in the movie). The first is the prequel comic. According to the comic cover (a copy of which can be found [http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/movieprequel1a.php here], it's called the "Transformers Official Movie Prequel." Sounds a bit pretentious.. IDW Prequel Comic would be sufficant?
The second is the Prequel novel, which is listed on amazon [http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Ghosts-Yesterday-Ballantine-Books/dp/0345497988/sr=1-1/qid=1170093193/ref=sr_1_1/102-1005451-0556957?ie=UTF8&s=books 1] here. It's labeled as just "Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday" but I'm not sure if we should point out that it is also a prequel to the movie.
The third, of course, is the film.

So, anywho, that's everything I think that needs to be addressed at this moment. Any ideas/opinions/comments/complaints? --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 17:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, and we also need actual pics of the Bee at some point. For the prequel comic, the cover for the first issue should do nicely. (Available at the above link) The only problem is I'm not sure if it's kosher to just snag it off that guys page. As for the main picture, a screencap from the trailer might work; though a picture of that prop that was floating around would be better (but I really doubt it would be kosher. :D) --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 18:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I apologize in advance for my recent edits. Am in a weird mood today. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:How can you apologize in advance for something you've already did? :D --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 18:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::See the continuity section of "Earthforce" for a detailed explanation. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I move that the debate about the best way to suffix these articles be shelved until the movie prequels are out- in the hopes that:
* The characters 'read' as another iteration of the G1 characters, rendering this debate unnecessary.
* The prequels themselves present some handy blanket catchphrase for referring to their continuity.
-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:This was prompted by a review of the first issue of the prequel comic being released. Like I said, it comes off as different as G1 as Armada was.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 19:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:And really, to answer whether or not this is "another iteration of the G1 characters" would require just what that entails. Where is the line drawn between "reimagining" and "new version?" As I mentioned elsewhere, what's the big difference between Armada Optimus Prime and G1 Optimus Prime? They're pretty much the same character. At least as similar as G1 toon Optimus was to G1 IDW Comic Optimus--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 19:35, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

::Fundamental universe construction.
::And I wasn't aware there was a review out-- where? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:39, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Whoops. I posted a link above but I guess I didn't point out it also had a review. Here ya go again. [http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/movieprequel1a.php SPOILERS AHOY!]

::::I would second the sentiment that sorting out a lot of this stuff should be put on hold until the prequel materials actually start being released, and we can get a somewhat more clear look at the shape of the movie-verse. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

==Spoilers==
I'm somewhat handicapped by not reading the article because I choose to, but I can't help that notice that we have a '''fiction summary from an issue that is not out yet without a spoiler tag.''' [[Talk:Transformers (2007)#For the love of God, part 2|For the love of God]], why are we doing this? I asked ''almost'' nicely. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:The main reason I didn't spoiler-tag the article is that I completely made up the whole fiction section. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
:: And that's what I get for not reading it, I guess. I have been punk'd. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::: So what I did was basically like leaving a ticking alarm clock in a case of Twinkies and leaving it at the baggage check, but without the feds knocking on my door? Never intended to do such a thing but it still makes me chuckle. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I cleared out the misinformation and added a direct link to the main Bumblebee article. I'm not even sure which other pages link to this movie specific one.

:And in the process, you completely obliterated the entire reason this page was created in the first place (see the top of this talk page), ''and'' added a real spoiler to the beginning of the article! Brilliant! --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:18, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

== Time For a Real Page ==
When is it going to be time for a REAL BB (Movie) page? All the other characters pretty much have them now and we know how things will be set up. It was a good joke, but I think it may be time to let it go and give him a real, useful entry. Opinions?
:I'm honestly surprised it hasn't already been fixed. :D--[[User:209.193.18.195|209.193.18.195]] 11:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
:: I agree - there's plenty of officially-released info and stuff from the IDW comics and novel to form the basis of a half-decent serious article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Car geekings==
I noticed Bumblebee's identified as a 1967 Camaro. Is this model year stated anywhere officially? He looks more like a second-generation body style, which ran from 1970 to '81.

I guess this is as good a place as any to say (argue?) that the Camaro can concievably still fit with Bumblebee's original "economic" character traits. If he is indeed a second-gen, that seems to be the model that ran during the beginnings of the 1980s fuel crisis, and thus lost power in favor of economy (implied from the Camaro's Wiki entry.) The upcoming fifth-generation has at least one modern fuel-saving technology, cylinder-cutoff.

If, you know, that even needed to be said. The Camaro's a great car for Bumblebee to pick to make good with human youth anyway.-[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 10:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

: I believe its actually a 1974 Camaro. Walky made a mistake, methinks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
::I have the prequels handy, and Sector 7 says he's either a '75 or a '76. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
::: I'm dyslexic! Fix it! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

== Disambig suffix ==

Is there a reason (Movie) is capitalized when things like (planet) are not?
:I would assume because "Movie" has been what we're calling the continuity family. Come to think of it, I'm kinda not sure whether it oughta be capitalized or not. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
::That makes sense, a continity family would logically be a Proper Name, so it works.
::(Man, I can't WAIT 'til we figure out a better name for this continuity family and we get to change all the links...) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
:::[[User:DiagnosticDrone]] will do it. He likes that kind of thing. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

== Amusing tidbit ==

I ran across the following amusing (unused?) text string while poking the undercode of Transforemrsgame.com. It made me laugh.

''Bumblebee is an Autobot. See Bumblebee run. See Bumblebee throw a car five hundred feet through the air smashing a large, heavily trafficked office building slaughtering hundreds all in the name of "Proecting" or "Defending" the Earth, or whatever they want to call it today. Thanks Bumblebee, you're a real pal!

''But seriously. Bumblebee was in the original Transformers movie for like, less than 10 seconds total and it worked out great. Why is he being given HotRod like airtime in this new movie? Better yet, WHERE IS HOTROD? I mean, COME ON PEOPLE. What are you thinking?!

==Old spare pic==
Old promo render --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:MovieBumblebee_render1.jpg|thumb|right|150px|]]

== Chatty Cathy ==

Currently the article says Bumblebee can't talk. We've got other sources that say he can't speak without pain (and chances of aggravating the injury?) And then of course there's the movie, where the Autobts say he can't talk- until he does under... bizarre circumstances. The can't talk section clearly needs changing- but I'm at a loss as to what it should say. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::He can`t talk without pain. At the end, the AB,s fix him. Get it? Good. Shut up.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 22:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== Bumblebee knowing about the witwicky family ==

Is it stated in a prequel material how come Bumblebee knew about the relation between the Witwicky family and the Allspark? And how come the Decepticon never did the connection until hacking POTUS in the movie?--[[User:193.191.211.52|193.191.211.52]] 06:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
: In the prequel comics, Bumblebee did a Schwiggle (Google) search for "UFOs" or something, which brought up Captain Archibald Witwicky's "Ice Man" discovery. He then apparently spent the next four years stalking Witwicky's various descendents. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

== Possible error ==

In the Bumblebee new Camaro toy section:

"Contrary to popular opinion, the yellow pieces on the back of Bumblebee's feet are not supposed to be heel spurs, nor have they not been misassembled. They are supposed to fold up to emulate the detail found on the CGI design."

NOR have they NOT been misassembled means that they HAVE been misassembled. Have they or haven't they? Either way, I think this warrants a change of wording. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 10:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I made a typo. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Toy Page ==

What is with the toy page, it's all over the place! There's Robot Heroes in the middle of the RC toys, Legends Class in the middle of the Deluxe Section, heck this is more of a Bumblebee toy page, than his bio page! [[User:198.166.226.72|198.166.226.72]] 08:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:I sorted the toy list. Anyone who thinks it was better the way it was before please state so here; otherwise I propose adjusting the other movie characters' toy pages in a similar fashion.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::Looks good, Nev--sorting by mold and then by chronological release order works pretty well for these. Splitting off the section to its own page might still be worth a look, but either way, I'd be in favor of this organizational structure for the movie toy sections.--[[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 21:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it's a good idea to split this page so that the toys themselves get a page on there own, the toys page is HUGE.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 21:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's definitely an improvement! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Apparently M "this is how we do stuff here" Sipher didn't agree. And decided to ignore the talk page too.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 00:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::::You know, we originally seperated the FABs, Cyber Slammers ect out of what we considered the 'main line' (Legends, Deluxes, Voyagers, Leaders)... until M Sipher decided to change everything, which resulted in the gigantic, confusing toy list. I say we keep Nevermore's changes, because it is clean, organised, logical and easy to read, and makes it easy to edit because you know which sub-section you're after, instead of editing one giant section. After all, out of all of us, who is the most logical and organised here? Nevermore, that's who. I don't even like him and I can say that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Though everything seems more easy to find this way, I think the Screen Battles releases should be next to each other. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's one of the very few things I haven't figured out yet - same thing about packs that contain two different Bumblebee toys (Evolution of a Hero, Ultimate with Titanium), which would theoretically require double entries.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:::::At the ''very'' least, I disagree with splitting up Robot Heroes, Cyber Slammers, FABs, Replicas, and the like into one-item subsections. I don't like having a billion subsections for such minimal content each. It's one thing for a franchise to have a subsection, it's another for what boils down to a size class with only one thing in it. And I '''strongly''' disagree with the notion that all movie character pages should be like this; the ''majority'' of movie characters just flat-out don't have enough stuff to remotely justify this kind of splitting. Bumblebee is an anomaly. ''Prime'' doesn't even have this much stuff, let alone Jazz or Ironhide or even Megatron. sPlitting them up into a bunch of subsections would be ridiculous.
:::::Frankly, I ''do'' prefer the straight linear listing. I think it gives a better impression of how the releases progressed through the series. And I'd just as soon drop the mile-long parentheticals to boot.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think I'd be grudgingly okay with big subsection splitting {{m-}}''for Bumblebee only''{{m-}} if we split his toys into their own article, like we have for G1 Prime and some others whose pages have gotten overly huge. Bee's article is certainly goddamn huge enough to split off the toy/merch section into its own page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::My problem with a chronological list is that with ten different toys being released within the span of three months, there's nothing much gained from pointing out which toy was spotted in stores three days before the other one. On the other hand, six different deco variants for Bumblebee being spread across the entire page, with FABs, Cyber Slammers, Ultimate BB and Legends scattered in between makes it a lot more confusing. Likewise, for Jazz, there are three distinct variants of the Legends toy alone, plus three or four versions of the Deluxe toy, plus FAB, Cyber Slammer and whatnot. Generally, having all versions of a mold being listed in release order makes it waaaay more easy to navigate, and easier for the "average", non-you-and-me visitor to understand which toy is a redeco of which than having a note saying "Premium Bumblebee is a redeco of Deluxe Bumblebee version 2", and then having to scroll up to look for that toy. And how many versions of a toy justify a different sub-section for you, anyways?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 18:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::While I don't have much opinion either way on this, I will throw in that it looks very, very odd to have the Legends class toy as the first entry on the list. Given the way most Transformer characters evolve, it makes it looks like that was his main toy incarnation, and everything else a later evolution (even though the Movie toys are an exception to the usual rules.) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Well, what do you think the "main" Movie Prime toy is? Voyager or Leader? The difference between the movie line and older lines (especially G1) is that there's a bunch of different toys for the same character in different size classes and gimmick-based sub-lines released around the same time, rather than ONE toy being released, then a new toy not until several months (or years, even) later. I started with the smallest size, then moved on to the next largest size class, and so on. Putting one toy as the "main" toy would not only be pretty subjective, but also screw things up more. Again, Leader or Voyager Prime? Deluxe '77 Bumblebee or Deluxe '09 Bumblebee? Do we sort the list by "importance" of the toy? So Deluxe '09 - Deluxe '77 - Ultimate - Legends? or what? Again, highly subjective. Starting with size classes ("Legends Class", "Deluxe Class", "Voyager Class", "Leader Class" and Ultimate Bumblebee), sorted by ascending price point, and then having what Hasbro officially calls "Fast Transforming Fun" follow is not.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Bumblebee's gigantic mass of merchanidse is a very rare EXCEPTION even among the movie characters, and making broad, over-arching rules out of exceptions is ridiculous. When G1 Prime's toys got split off into its own page, we didn't do it for every other toy-character page because that would have been pointless. Jazz's much, ''much'' smaller handful of toys is not remotely confusing without splitting everything up by sizeclass/pricepoint unless you're easily confused by, say, ''rain'', and this holds true for pretty much the entire movie character set. And there ''does not have to be a rigid, exactly-calculated demarcation amount''. We don't have them for a lot of other things on this wiki, like subgroup categories. You make the exception for Bumblebee's toy-page, you ''note'' the exception to the stanards and the reasons why on the actual page, then you do ''not'' do it for everyone else who ''don't'' need the separate toy-page because there is ''no need to''. What is the point in separating the lone Robot Replica or Cyber Slammer of a character with maybe a dozen releases (if you include multi-packs of toys unchanged from individual release) into a subsection but to pad out the TOC? If we split the Legends out, why aren't we doing it for cybertron and Classics characters? Because there's no point. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, then about Prime. Listing toys in release order gives us the following anomalies: 1) Robo-Vision Prime being listed before regular Voyager Prime, but called a "redeco" of the toy that was released later. I would call this confusing, especially in a where-the-hell-do-I-find-this way for incidential visitors. 2) UK/Japan Nightwatch Prime and US Nightwatch Prime being listed several screens apart, rather than back to back. Again, I really see no reason WHY release order should take priority over size classes/molds. I could do with different sub-sections, but having all variations/repackages of a mold listed back to back IS more useful than having them all over the place. The only actual argument I see from your position is "too many sub-sections", but that doesn't even remotely touch the question why "release order" should be soooo superior.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::The Robo-Vision is easy. You just say "An exclusive redeco that was ultimately released before the mainline toy was as part of a special arrangement with Target". I mean, that's what it ''was''. A simple, one-sentence explanation. Exclusive "predecos" happen in other Hasbro lines. And why are you listing the non-US Nightwatch Prime releases separately, exactly? Is there ANYTHING about them that can't be handled with a second paragraph ("The UK/Japanese releases of this toy, which predated the US release by about a month, added a tumor to Prime's big toe and came with an AllSpark cube accessory") as part of the US Nightwatch Prime entry, as so many other slight international variants listed on ''every other page'' are? (In fact, the normal retail Japanese 70's Bee shouldn't really be separated from the US one.) And we do release order because ''that's how it is on the wiki, on the hundreds of applicable pages''. That's what 99.9% of the time works out best. ''Once again'', making broad rules out of rare exceptions is a ''bad idea''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, UK/Japan Nightwatch Prime appears to be a separate product as per Hasbro. It comes in different packaging, even the UK version comes in US-style packaging, with a different product code number, so this is just as much an "official variant" as minor-redeco Jazz from the Legends two-pack, or Premium Jazz vs. regular Jazz. And quite frankly, "This is how we do things here" is not an argument about which is ''better'', it's ''dodging the issue at hand'' by simply insisting on established conventions regardless of circumstances. Basically, what sets the movie toyline as a whole apart from previous toylines is that it contains an unusually large number of same-character redecos of the same toys within the same toyline. There are four or five versions of the Deluxe Jazz mold, all of which are distinct products with distinct bios and distinct packaging, same for Barricade, then there's four or five variants of the Voyager Prime mold, three or four versions of the Voyager, and so on. For the UT toys, there were maybe three different size classes altogether per character per series, each of which got a maximum of three redecos, so listing them by series is enough. In the movie line, on the other hand, you get a much larger number of size classes, each with their own set of repaints, so there's definitely a noticeable difference there.
:::Also, last I checked, you weren't an admin here. I see two people with sysop or admin powers confirming that my system works better (with only a few minor criticisms), plus several other users sharing my view. Unless you can find more people (and admins) backing up your position, I'd say your personal opinion loses to majority rule.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 22:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
::::"Different packaging" of the same toy? Good god, you've just described ''virtually every TF sold outside the US since the line began'', never mind ''domestic'' packaging changes. Are we going to split every one of those on the wiki into separate bullet-pointed releases too? That's ''thousands'' of items, and frankly ridiculous to the point of just flat-out fucking stupid. UK/Japanese Nightwatch Prime ''should not'' be listed separately, no more than the 90's Classics Throttlebots should be listed separately from the 86 releases, or ''Super Robot Lfieform'' Lambor from Sideswipe, etc. If there's some CostCo new-box Nightwatch Priem and Stealth bumblebee, then yes, you list ''that'', but not "Nightwatch Prime sold by himself in Strongbadian packaging". And you keep ignoring the part of "that's how it's done here" that says "'''because that's what works best 99.9% of the time'''". I strongly disagree with the contention that the whole movie cast needs these big sweeping changes to their pages' organization, even with the same-toy multipacks. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I just want to add that Siph's system is essentially 100% unusable as a reference for heavily-merchandised movie characters. What sane person is going to find a list of over a score of toys released in the same year sorted by date of first retail sighting useful? It makes you go through every single entry on the page if you just want to know what decoes of the '09 body Deluxe have been made. [[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:56, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What part of "Bumblebee is the exception" and "rules out of exceptions = bad" do you continue to miss? The overhwleming majority of the movie bots are ''nowhere'' as heavily merchandised as Bumblebee by a long shot, about as much as the average UT A-lister. Extending an EXCEPTION to a bunch of entries that ''do not match the exception'' is pointless. I've already conceded that something different should be done for Bumblebee ''with the move to a toy page'', noting that I do not feel that every individual brand/pricepoint should be subsectioned. That ''does not mean'' every other movie characer page needs to follow suit. Why would you do this to, say, Scorponok or Blackout? Or Ratchet? They're not drowning in toys. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:Ratchet has a Legends toy with a running change variant (which would be okay as a footnote) and a redeco, a Voyager toy with two redecos, an FAB with a redeco and a Cyber Slammer. I could even do without the sub-section headers there, but keeping them sorted by size class/price point is much cleaner, easier to navigate and overall more logical than a depending-on-distribution-patterns-and-store-sightings-based release order. I wouldn't even mind resorting the UT characters' toys by size/price point, at least within the individual series sections, which wouldn't be much of a problem considering they only had a maximum of about five or six different toys per series in total. And you ''still'' fail to adress the question why "release order" is ''better'' than "by size/price point/base toy". Your arguments thus far have been: 1) "This is how we do things", 2) "There's not that many different toys for most characters", both of which are merely questioning the ''necessity'' of my system, but do not prove your system to be ''better'' in any way whatsoever.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 22:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

: "The overwhelming majority" really looks like a baseless assertion to me. Even ''Jazz'' has enough toys to make your system actively hostile as a reference tool, which was never a problem with the A-list UT characters. If you want to convince people, you should present statistics for this. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

== Differences between the movie and the comics ==

The second paragraph starts with
:''Badly damaged in a conflict with Megatron''
Now, in the movie Ratchet simply says "his vocal processors were damaged in battle, I'm still working on them". Since Megatron has been on Earth for several thousand years, I find it hard to believe that it takes Ratchet that long to fix Bumblebee's vocal processors. Considering Orci said that it was his intention to have Bumblebee's regained ability to speak at the end of the movie being an after-effect of Ratchet's healing beam he fired at Bumblebee around the middle of the movie, I find it extremely hard to believe that Ratchet has been working on Bumblebee's vocal processors for several thousand years, and then all it takes is a single healing beam and a few days later he can suddenly talk again. (I know Orci said the contact with the Allspark was also a valid expanation, but that wasn't what he had in mind originally)

So this raises the question whether we should treat the "Megatron damaged Bumblebee several thousand years ago" thing from the comic adaption as canon for the movie or not, as it requires a huge stretch of imagination.

In general, I wonder how this Wiki is approaching contradictions in different media, especially when one is considered to take priority over the other. (or do we consider the toy bios and the UK comics just as "important" as the movie itself?) Do we pretend the contradictions don't exist, try to reconcile them in the write-up and only mention them under "trivia", or do we give a rundown on the portrayal of characters and events sorted by different media, present the contradictions as they are and then comment on them and try to come up with a possible reconciliation in the trivia section?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:20, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

:I believe we just present contradictions as they are. Present just the facts and let the reader draw conclusions as they will. In cases like this, where the contradiction is the result of similar stories told by two different media, the different media generally get treated as seperate continuities. This particular contradiction seems so minor, though, and a little too rooted in an individual fan's beliefs. Perhaps Ratchet has done a lot of work off-screen, when he can in between missions. The beam could've been the final touch he hadn't yet had a chance to apply. See? Fan-spec. Fan-spec bad.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 20:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

::I think another question would be this: If a character is featured in different media that contradict each other in some ways, should details that are only officially "valid" for one set of media (i.e. Bumblebee having been muted by Megatron) be featured in the introduction, or should the introduction be limited to details ''confirmed valid for all the different media'' and have the only-in-certain-media information restricted to the sections that explicitly deal with the portrayal in those media? For example, the introductory section just says "Bumblebee was damaged in battle", and then the comic section says "hree it was Megatron that damaged him."?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 00:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

:::We try to make the introductions continuity-neutral. I would say that if the sole contradiction is from a very "minor" source -- like a single kids' storybook -- it's probably okay to neglect that and talk about the thing, whatever thing it is, in the intro. In this case -- movie versus UK movie comics -- I think it's better to reword the intro so it fits both. Comics are, to me, a pretty "important" source of fiction, not something to be brushed aside. But that is admittedly subjective. And of course this all assumes that the fact in the intro is worth including in the first place. In this case, I would say it is. But sometimes the offending tidbit could just be removed from the intro entirely. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia addition ==

From [[User:Fallenronin|Fallenronin]]: 
"It could be that the doc didn't have enough time/resources, what with all the war & inter-stellar space travel, to fully perfect the healing plasma early enough. And even if he did, Bee took off for the Cube after only a marginal amount of repairs were performed on him after his encounter with Megs, so a vile of even faster-acting plasma could be sitting in Ratchet's lab back on ol' Cybertron... if the 'Cons didn't trash it of course. They did."

Aside from the split infinitive and misspelling of "vial" (and the idea that plasma could be kept in a vial like some liquid), would this be excessive speculation, or is it okay for the Trivia section to include? I was debating whether to correct it or outright remove it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sector Seven in Second Life? ==

Does anyone know where I can find this, or if it's been taken down? I'm an avid Second Lifer and Transformers fan, and would spaz out if I could see this. [[User:Ferryn|Ferryn]] 23:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== Mistakes on page (could somebody change this, please?) ==

In the description of the "towed to safety pack", I quote the following:

"Unusually, the pictures on the front of the box show the robot-mode toys instead of an artist's depiction of their faces—a rarity for this toy line."

In fact, the face artwork is mainly on the US toys, whereas the EU editions usually have photos. And since this was a UK exclusive, that's why there's a pic instead of artwork!

And here's another one, under the Fast Action Battler heading:

"As such, his hood does not collapse or deform into the multi-segmented piece seen in other toys."

The FAB front bumper splits into two halves that can each rotate downwards. Does that not class as 'deforming'? Like the Ultimate class, the chest is mis-transformed in the packaging and in the official photos, but it does split up, honest!

--[[Special:Contributions/84.71.205.110|84.71.205.110]] 21:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC) (Ryan Frost)

== Hoverball? ==

Is BB's Cybertronian mode a hoverball in Defiance #4? What is that thing? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:29, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Giant promotional Bumblebee ==

Hasbro took a giant (1:1, I think) replica Bumblebee in robot mode (and Camaro mode, for that matter) to Licensing Expo 2010 for people to be photographed with, and I got several nice-for-a-cellphone shots of him. And some crappier ones of him with the car. Should one of those go here, or with the toys, or with another article entirely...? --[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:47, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
: It's probably the one that's been at BotCon a few times. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:50, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
: Was it [http://www.botcon.com/BotCon09/webfiles/DSC_1428.JPG.html this guy]? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:52, 20 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Yep, that's him. So probably not too useful then. (Heh; licensing guys get to stand directly between his legs. I wish I'd caught some of those.) --[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 19:29, 20 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Bumblebee (Movie)

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'''We do not care about set leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

== Release date ==

This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up. --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image ==

Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don't know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro's Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::I'm waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They'd see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not too crazy about the image, but I don't think it's too terribly bad [it's nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15's skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that's the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro's public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It's a cell phone quality photograph, but it's got Prime in.
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EST)

== James Avery as Silverbot? ==
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]

== New Actor Info ==

...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool's prank on someone's part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it's not like she's above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don't see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who've done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn't surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I'm just still skeptical that TF3's script is going to be less horrible than TF2's.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it's not ''all'' they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That's why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Titles? ==

Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
::::That's still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they're in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn't this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Not really. For example, the "Ratchet" could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren't officially released photos. This isn't an "OMG look what I know that you don't site" trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I don't think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Doesn't matter. Those aren't OFFICIAL photos. They weren't released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they're intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his ''new'' colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Nope, we still don't count 'em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. <Cheetor> PERIOD. <Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}
:::It's not a case of not believing they're in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It's a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don't include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Right. This info might be "obvious", but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I'm sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I've no reason to believe that they won't appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn't that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

== Megan Fox ==
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3
:Reuters.com states it's due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)

== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question. Here's the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
::For those who don't feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DINOBOTS? ==

In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that ''I can't answer that question'' which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:His deflection of the question doesn't "pretty much" confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:That's not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren't confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
::"he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign." But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren't. That's the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)
:::So in short, ''wait'' until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== SIDESWIPE ==

Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)

Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:'''''NO.''''' We've been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== Disclaimer ==

Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference] (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

== MARK RYAN ==

Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don't know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/
:That doesn't seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he's always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

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[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] is forced to hand over data on the [[Master Sword]] to [[Sixshot]] via a giant [[Floppy disk]]. Screen capture from ''Transformers: The Headmasters'' episode [[The Master Sword Is in Danger!!]]

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{{C}} TakaraTomy/Hasbro, 1987/2008.

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2009-06-28T06:29:14Z

Wednesday: /* Transformers references */ Admittedly, Alice was more of a tenter than a pretenter.

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'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''''' is the first of two planned sequels to ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''. It was released in North America on [[June 24]], 2009.

{{quote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen, ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

:''Japanese title:'' '''''Transformers Revenge'''''
:''French title:'' '''''Transformers 2: La Revanche''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge'')
:''German title:'' '''''Transformers: Die Rache''''' (''Transformers: The Revenge'')
:''Polish title:'' '''''Transformers: Zemsta Upadłych'''''
:''Italian title:'' '''''Transformers 2: La Vendetta Del Caduto''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')
:''Serbian title:'' '''''Transformers 2: Najveće govno ikada''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')

==Main cast==
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}

{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] ([[Reno Wilson]])
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] ([[André Sogliuzzo]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] ([[Grey DeLisle]])

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Hugo Weaving]])
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Charlie Adler]])
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]]
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Scalpel]] ([[John Di Crosta]])
*[[Reedman]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*A [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] lookalike
*[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])
**[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] ([[Calvin Wimmer]])
**[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] ([[Kevin Michael Richardson]])
**[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]
**[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]
**[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]]
**[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]]
**[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]]
|c3=
*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])
*[[Leo Spitz]] ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])
*[[General Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])
*[[Professor Colan]] ([[Rainn Wilson]])
}}

==Technical details==
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==Short synopsis==
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For dry, red eyes, the difference is clear: Clear Eyes.]]

The Autobots have found a home in "NEST", a secret military unit created to seek out and eliminate the remaining Decepticons. All is not well, however. Unbeknownst to them, Soundwave is in orbit, coordinating the Decepticon counterstrike. After Ravage steals the Allspark shard from NEST, a team of Constructicons and The Doctor journey to the bottom of the ocean and use it revive Megatron. The Decepticon leader journeys to the crashed Nemesis, rebukes Starscream, and meets with his master, The Fallen.

The Fallen explains that he had constructed a Solar Harvester on Earth, in violation of the Primes' code to never harm an inhabited planet. The Primes turned on him, banished and imprisoned him. However the Harvester still stands, and only one Prime remains. If Megatron destroys Optimus Prime, The Fallen will be freed to activate the Harvester, which will kill off the humans and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. Megatron eagerly agrees, and returns to Earth with a vengeance.

It transpires that the location of the Harvester is hidden within Sam Witwicky, who absorbed the knowledge from another Allspark fragment. The Decepticons begin an all-out war across the Earth as they hunt down the human, and the Autobots and NEST are blamed for the ensuing carnage. Witwicky goes to ground, and must turn to unlikely allies in the race to find a solution. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Transformers' greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.

==Full synopsis==
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==Quotes==


"Ding-a-ling, come out an' get yo' ice cream. Any bad robot out there better get ready for an ass-whoopin'."
:— '''Skids''' and '''Mudflap''' speaking their first line in the movie as the ice cream truck.

"Damn, I'm good."
:— '''Sideswipe''', modest as always.

"The Fallen shall rise again!" 
"That doesn't sound good..."
:— '''Demolishor''' speaks his last words, and '''Epps''' doesn't like it.

"Ow! That hurt, man!" 
"It's supposed to hurt, it's an ass-kickin'."
:— '''Mudflap''' gets tossed by '''Skids''' before their reformat.

"Need parts. Kill ze little one!"
:— '''Scalpel''' instructs the Constructicons to kill one of their own, which they so happily oblige.

"You may be hot but you sure ain't bright."
:— '''Wheelie''' commenting on working with Megan Fox.

"I know you’re pissed-I know you’re pissed, I tried to kill you, right? It’s totally understandable. I mean, if you tried to kill me, I’d be pissed, too."
:— '''Sam Witwicky''' tries to relate with '''Megatron'''.

"Is the fate of our race not worth one human life?" 
"You'd never stop at just ''one''. '''I'll take you all on!'''"
:— '''Megatron''' tries to justify killing Sam. '''Optimus Prime''' disapproves. Beatdown ensues.

"We don't read much."
:— '''Skids''' detailing his advanced Autobot education.

"What planet am I on?" 
"Earth." 
"''Earth''? Terrible name for a planet. Might as well call it ''Dirt''. Planet Dirt."
:— '''Jetfire''' asks '''Simmons''' where he is, only to have negative thoughts.

"You know what my father was? A wheel! The first wheel! And you know what he transformed into? NOTHING! But he did so with honor!"
:— '''Jetfire''' tells a story.

"Beginning. Middle. End. Facts. Details. Condense. Plot. Tell it."
:— '''Simmons''' demands more coherent exposition from Jetfire.

"Lemme show ya how we brought the pain in ''my'' day!!"
:—'''Jetfire''' enters the fray to show us young whippersnappers how it's ''really'' done.

"One man, alone, abandoned by the country he loves."
:— '''Agent Simmons''' being, well, Agent Simmons.

"I am under the enemy scrotum!"
:— '''Agent Simmons''' goes ''balls'' deep on Devastator.

"GIVE ME YOUR FACE."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' warns The Fallen of his violent fetish.

"Not to call you a coward, master, but, sometimes, cowards do survive."
:— '''Starscream''' pitches his usual battle plan to an unusually receptive Megatron.

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==Production staff==
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] also returned.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]</ref>
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===Visual effects===
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===Locations department===
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==Prequel material==
===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay's first documentary {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13's Star Screams}}, they're quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has taken a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15's Star Screams}}.

The Decepticons promise this new documentary will show a glorious Decepticon victory {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10's Star Screams}} - whether it's in the script or not. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18's Star Screams}}

Shockingly, even ''they'' are under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully refers to a greater power keeping him quiet. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22's Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23's Star Screams}}

In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1's Law and Disorder}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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==Adaptations==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}

==Sequels==
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==Soundtrack==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Soundtrack]]

==Score==
{{cleanup|June 25, 2009}}
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Score]]
* [[Linkin Park]] and Hans Zimmer worked with Steve Jablonsky on the score of the movie. Linkin Park also wrote a song, called "New Divide". It was one of the theme songs for the movie, and they did several interpretations on that theme. <ref>[http://www.mikeshinoba.com/blog/special_events-recommended_music-in_the_studio-featured-linkin_park_/transformers_2_new_linkin_park_song_and_score]</ref>

==DVD release==

==Theatrical posters==
<gallery perrow="4">
Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|Teaser poster
Image:ROTF Theatrical poster.jpg|Theatrical poster
Image:ROTF International poster.jpg|International poster
Image:ROTF Prime poster.jpg|Prime poster
Image:ROTF bumblebee poster.jpg|Bumblebee poster
Image:ROTF Starscream poster.jpg|Wait...Starscream gets a poster but Megatron doesn't? That's just wrong.
</gallery>

==Reception==
{{quote|Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense.|[http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie], Charlie Jane Anders|i09.com [[June 24]] [[2009]]}}
{{quote|I bet you'd '''love''' to criticize that, critics, but you can't! It's not '''for''' you!|''Penny Arcade'', March 24, 2004 [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/24/]}}

In the week leading up to the United States release, while the film had been released in Japan and the United Kingdom, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was ranking 38% fresh on [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/ Rotten Tomatoes.com]. As American reviews were added into the ranking on June 24, the movie's freshness slipped slowly to 22%. RottenTomatoes.com's consensus was that "''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch." Roger Ebert, who gave the movie one star, remarked that "if you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together." <ref>[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997 Roger Ebert's ''Revenge of the Fallen'' review] on RogerEbert.com</ref> Todd Gilchrist of Cinematical.com said Michael Bay "has exceeded even the possibilities of sequel-driven 'moreness,' combining his own muscular, high-gloss sensibility with the conventions of blockbusters past, present, and probably future to create a monolithic action masterpiece that feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time." <ref>[http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/22/review-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/ Review: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen] on Cinematical.com</ref> Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune said "the first, comparatively lucid ''Transformers'' was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....''Revenge of the Fallen'' is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours." <ref>[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/chi-tc-mov-transformers-0623-0624jun23,0,7350387.story 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen' stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel] on chicagotribune.com </ref> Roger Ebert went back for more in a second article, declaring not only that ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was awful, but that it'd [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined action films FOREVER]]. <ref>[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/06/the_fall_of_the_revengers.html "The Fall of the Revengers"] on suntimes.com</ref>

Despite the overwhelmingly negative reviews, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' poised itself quickly as a blockbuster maelstrom. It grossed $16 million in its opening midnight showings alone, an all-time record for Wednesday openings and a second-best for openings on any day of the week behind ''The Dark Knight''. After the full Wednesday was over, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had grossed $55 million in domestic ticket sales, surpassing the previous Wednesday release record, held by ''Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'', by over $10 million. <ref> [http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1614673/story.jhtml 'Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen' Breaks Wednesday Box-Office Record] on MTV.com</ref>

==Trivia==
*The official title of the film is ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (with a lower-case "t" in "the") even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital "T" in "The").
*Leo's room features posters for [[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]], [[Wikipedia:Cloverfield|Cloverfield]], and [[Wikipedia:Bad Boys 2|Bad Boys 2]].
*During the scenes set in and around the deli in NYC, posters for the bands [[Wikipedia:Catch 22 (band)|Catch Twenty-Two]] and [[wikipedia:Voodoo Glow Skulls|Voodoo Glow Skulls]] are prominently featured.

==Transformers references==
* The whole concept of "Transformers disguised as a human" used for Alice is inspired by the Pretenders. Roberto Orci even used the term "Pretender" during an interview before the movie release. However, a Transformer with an "organic" alt-mode instead of an external shell is a concept that reminds more of the Beast Era.

==Development details==
{{cleanup|June 25, 2009}}
* In an interview with BANG! Showbiz, Shia LeBouf stated that the injuries he suffered in his recent vehicular collision were written into the script and did not adversely affect the filming schedule.<ref name="TheList2008">[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]</ref>
* Also on January 29, 2009, Simon Furman commented on MTV Movie Blog about how the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] wouldn't fit very well into the movie's universe, and that he is glad they were dropped from the cast very early in development.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]</ref>
* Michael Bay stated in interview with ''The Collider'' the he obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting [[Zahi Hawass]], secretary general of Egypt's council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie.<ref>[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]</ref>
* In an interview with Sci Fi Wire on March 31st, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they had looked through the comics and cartoons for the "most elemental bad guy" that "jumped off the material" and found that in the Fallen. They also stated that due to production necessities (Hasbro and Bay needing characters for scenes and design to begin as soon as possible) and the 2008-2009 Writers Strike, some characters were in their initial treatment while others were designed specifically for the movie production, and that due to the overall numbers of robots, the audience would not get to know all of the Transformers closely. Indeed, Orci and Kurtzman referred to some characters via descriptors such "Volt" (Jolt) and "Wheelbot" (Demolishor). They also confirmed that Nimoy was open to playing the Fallen if the role was offered, and that they were in the middle of hashing it out with Frank Welker over a role in the movie, but the final decision was down to Bay.<ref name="scifiwireMarch2009">[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php SciFi Wire March 2009 interview with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]</ref>
* On the MTV Movies blog, Michael Bay reported that they were still doing for the voices for the film, and that he was (jokingly) nervous of asking his relative Leonard Nimoy if he wanted to voice The Fallen in the movie for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ ''Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer'', MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]</ref>
* In a June 22nd article in Forbes (released online on June 4th), Michael Bay talked about his philosphy in movie-making, his demand of part-ownership of movies he makes, and the revelation that he receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the ''Transformers'' movies.<ref>[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]</ref>
* On June 8th, 2009, the movie had its world premiere in Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]</ref>. Other countries such as South Korea<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]</ref>, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days.
===Disinformation===
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* Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks.<ref>[http://io9.com/382919/michael-bay-plays-internet-punkd Michael Bay Plays Internet Punk'd]</ref> (Like our jobs weren't hard enough.)
* During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the film would feature a character called [[The Fallen]], which was a character they created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[The War Within: The Dark Ages]]''<ref>[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources]</ref> Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villain of ''Revenge'' ([[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). <ref>[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry]</ref> Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of ''Revenge'' have seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]</ref> Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
* ''Empire'' magazine's February 2009 issue features information on the role of the Egyptian Pyramids in the Movieverse's backstory. Michael Bay also confirmed The Fallen and denied Megatron would be resurrected (this later turned out to be untrue). Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics resembling helicopters will be revealed to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.<ref name="EmpireFeb2009">''Empire'' article entitled "20 to watch in 2009", written by Nick de Semelyn, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, issue 236</ref>
* After a short and poorly excuted "misinformation campaign" on the part of Michael Bay, Paramount and their licensees where they claimed that Megatron was not in the movie despite all ''officially released'' evidence to the contrary (including Megatron's brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl tv spot and the February teaser trailer), Roberto Orci confirmed that Megatron does indeed return.<ref name="Megatron returns">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirms Megatron's return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]</ref>
* On March 6, due to the reports of Weaving's return, Michael Bay finally admitted Megatron was back, but claimed that Megatron would only appear briefly in a flashback to the past, despite the fact Megatron can be seen pinning Sam Witwicky to the ground in ''Revenge's'' tv spot and teaser trailer. One can assume that the director was trying to salvage some form of audience surprise in seeing Megatron return in the movie. In other news of a presumably legitimate kind, Bay said that the movie would go into the distant past and explain the history of the [[Prime]]s.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&postcount=4 Michael Bay on his forum - March 6, 2009]</ref>

===''Transformers'' sequel and the 2007-2008 Writers Strike===
In late 2007, during preproduction for then-untitled ''Transformers'' sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]]. At the time, Roberto Orci stated that the strike could likely delay ''Transformers 2's'' release. However, Michael Bay refuted this, claiming the movie was still on schedule.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6200#post6200 Robert Orci discusses the strike & TF2]</ref> The reason behind Bay's confidence was discovered by Orci shortly after the strike ended. The director had apparently taken the outline the writers had handed in the night before the strike, and began pre-production based on it. <ref>[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&page=4 Don Murphy message board - Orci on the aftermath of the strike]</ref>

==Errors==
*Bumblebee picks up Sam at a frat party in the evening. He then takes him to a graveyard where it's daytime.
*On the sonar, there are "five contacts" diving down to Megatron's location, and "six contacts" going up after his resurrection. Since one Constructicon was killed to repair Megatron, shouldn't there be only five contacts going up as well?
*Wheelie disappeared inexplicably in the third act. What the hell, man?
**Similarly Jetfire vanishes around the same time Wheelie does. But unlike Wheelie, he actually comes back.
*Mudflap and Skids are not seen again after facing off against Devastator.
*When Jetfire is activated at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum (actually the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, an annex of the Smithsonian) in Washington, he leaves the exhibition center and exits into the desert location of the [[Wikipedia:309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group|309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (aka The Boneyard)]], which is in Tuscon, Arizona. When Jetfire breaks out of the building, we can see a composited image of the Boneyard's rows of planes, so it's arguable that in this universe the middle of Washington DC happens to be a desert full of old planes, and no buildings and uh... heh heh. Given that this and the Transformers are the ''only'' changes between this universe and ours, that's a stretch.

===Not actually an error===

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount's ''Transformers'' Movie website]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro's ''Transformers'' homepage]
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com

==References==
{{Reflist|2}}

[[Category:Films]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen]]

Roberto Orci

2009-06-09T04:55:10Z

Wednesday: Killing value judgement, fixing possessive on J.J. Abrams. Still a clumsy sentence, but what can one do?

[[Image:RobertoOrci.jpg|right|175px|thumb|To boldly Go Where No Writer Has Gone Before]]
'''Roberto Orci''' is an American film and television producer and screenwriter. Together with his friend and writing partner [[Alex Kurtzman]], he has written several high-profile motion pictures recently, including ''The Island'' (which was directed by [[Michael Bay]]), as well as J.J Abrams' reimaginings of ''Mission Impossible 3'' and ''Star Trek''.

===Writer===
* [[Transformers (2007)]] (together with Alex Kurtzman)
* [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]] (together with Kurtzman and [[Ehren Kruger]])

==Trivia==
* Before the release of the movie, Roberto regularly posted on the [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=4930 Official Transformers Movie forum], answering the questions of fans as best he could. His writing partner Alex Kurtzman occassionally chimed in, though not to the extent of Orci's messages. However, since the release of the movie, Roberto returned to answer questions before the pair left to move onto the ''Star Trek'' franchise. Currently, Orci is regularly answering fan questions at the [http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=22635 official message board] of movie producer [[Don Murphy]] and at [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=180451 TFW2005].
* "Orci" is pronounced "Or-See", not "Or-Key".

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0649460/ Roberto Orci at the Internet Movie Database]

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Team Chaar

2009-04-22T22:18:04Z

Wednesday: Muppet Babies lyric pedantry. :)

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Team Chaar is a [[Decepticon]] subgroup form the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:TeamChaar.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I like adventure!" "I like romance!" "I love great jokes!" "Animal dance!"]]

'''Team Chaar''' is a squad of Decepticons sent to capture a [[space bridge]] as part of [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]'s plan to re-take [[Cybertron (planet)#Animated|Cybertron]].

The team includes

* [[Strika (Animated)|Strika]], the leader
* [[Blackout (Animated)|Blackout]], the muscle
* [[Cyclonus (Animated)|Cyclonus]], the space warrior
* [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]] the chemical warfare expert
* [[Spittor (Animated)|Spittor]], the disgusting thing

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
Team Chaar battled [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]]'s crew, handily beating them and taking control of [[space bridge 687-030]]. Strika contacted [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]], the Decepticons' secret agent on Cybertron, with news of their success, but Shockwave commanded the team stay put until they received word from Megatron to invade. This proved to be a bad move, as [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] subsequently had the entire [[space bridge nexus]] shut down to prevent the Decepticons from using them.

The team remained at the captured bridge, awaiting the word to proceed. When the [[Elite Guard]] flagship finally arrived in response to Rodimus's SOS, Strika relished the chance to battle them... but was ordered to retreat by Megatron on pain of pain. Reluctantly, the five Decepticons retreated. {{storylink|TransWarped}}

[[Category: Animated]]
[[Category: Decepticon subgroups]]

Mainframe (G1)

2009-04-14T18:22:09Z

Wednesday: Cleanup

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{{disambig3|Mainframe}}
:''Mainframe is an [[Autobot]] [[Action Master]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Mainframe%28G1%29 MTMTE.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Code Monkey like Fritos. Code Monkey like Tab and Mountain Dew. Code Monkey very simple man with big warm fuzzy secret heart: Code Monkey like you.]]
'''Mainframe''' is a dork. A computer dork, to be precise. (Both in that he is a computer that is a dork, and a dork about computers.) He'd rather tackle complex mathematical problems than join the [[Great War (G1)|inconvenient galactic conflict]] with the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. Despite his distaste for combat, he won't shirk his duties when called upon. If anything, he hopes that if he simply ''must'' fight, that he'll have the chance to use his considerable brainpower to end things quickly.

Alas, his partner, [[Push-Button]], would rather convert to a piston rifle and blow stuff up than be stuck debugging Mainframe's programs. Naturally, the two don't especially get along.

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Ordinateur'''

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Mainframe toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It figures a computer dork would want a BFG.]]
* '''Mainframe''' (Action Master, 1990)
*''Accessories'': "Vibro Pulverizer" rifle

: As an [[Action Master]], Mainframe is a non-transforming action figure of a robot with an indeterminate alternate mode, but chances are he turns into one of those huge computers you see in those movies from the 70's and 80's, you know, the ones the size of refrigerators with the reel-to-reel magnetic tape. He is compatible with any Action Master vehicle or weapon. He was part of the second assortment of basic carded figures, and came with his partner-robot Push-Button.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Mainframe/mainframe.htm More information on Mainframe at TFU.info]''

==Trivia==
* Mainframe is inexplicably on the cover of the 1990 [[Family Home Entertainment]] VHS release of the "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]" mini-series... a cartoon produced about four years before Mainframe's toy was released.

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Ravage (G1)/toys

2009-04-10T17:43:40Z

Wednesday: /* 3D Battle-Card */ Gah. Even more stray less-than-html-greater-than gragh.

You've got a lot of toys, haven't you? [[Ravage (G1)|You cute wuddle kitty!]]

==Toys==
===Generation 1===

[[Image:G1Ravage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Behold... the world's skinniest jaguar.]]
* '''Ravage / Rumble''' (Cassette, 1984/1998/1986/1987)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''19''', '''D-59''', '''D-104'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case ('85 Takara only)

: The first Ravage toy transforms from a robotic jaguar into a microcassette. In cassette mode, he can fit into the tape compartments of the [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. For his [[Hasbro]] release, he was sold on a card along with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] in 1984-1986, and as an individual by [[Takara]] from 1985-1987; the '85 version came with an extra clear-plastic tape-case, but later releases omitted the accessory.

: This mold was later used to make [[Glit]] and [[Howlback]].

{{-}}

[[Image:G1Jaguar%28reissue%29.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A light breeze is enough to defeat him.]]
*'''Soundblaster''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: The [[Transformers Collection]] [[reissue]] of [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundblaster]] (the rebuilt form of Soundwave from the Japanese [[The Headmasters (franchise)|''Headmasters'' series]]) came with bonus "Cassettrons" Jaguar (Ravage) and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. Both came with their own extra tape-cases, and had small stickers depicting the "weak points" of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] when viewed through the clear-red chest of Soundblaster's tape door.

{{-}}

*'''Soundwave''' (Decepticon, 2007)
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles

: Hasbro's ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]''-themed reissue of Soundwave is a [[redeco]] of the Transformers Collection Soundblaster, coming with the double-tape door and both Ravage and Laserbeak as pack-ins.

{{-}}

===Beast Wars===

[[Image:ShadowPanther toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Fuzzy kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 1996)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-7'''
*''Accessories:'' Tail-gun, water-shooting gun

: This originally Japanese toy, named [[Shadow Panther]], is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] toy in black, silver, and yellow, transforming into a generic big feline. His tail/flanks separate to form a non-firing blaster, while his underbelly forms a water-shooting "gut gun" that can be used in either mode.

: Much later, this toy was offered through Hasbro's online collector service under the name "'''Tripredacus Agent'''", with an online bio indicating he was the same character as Ravage (then called "Tripredacus Agent" due to [[trademark]] issues).

: This mold was also used to make [[Tigatron]], and was planned to be used for the canceled ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy [[Nightprowler]].

{{-}}

[[Image:TripredacusAgent toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Mutant kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 2001)
*''Accessories:'' Launcher, missile, tail-flail

: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] is a redeco of—wait, can you guess?—[[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal 2 Cheetor]], in black, silver, and gold, transforming into a monstrous techno-organic (but not [[technorganic]]) big cat. He has a spring-loaded missile launcher on his cat-mode back that can be removed and used as a hand-held weapon, plus his tail detaches to form a hand-held flail. His left forearm has a flip-up blaster-shield (of dubious usefulness), while flipping up a panel on his right-rear leg reveals his [[spark crystal]].

{{-}}

===Beast Wars Metals===

[[Image:JaguarX9 toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Metal kitty!]]
* '''Metals Jaguar''' (Deluxe, 1999)
*''Japanese ID number'': '''X-9'''
*''Accessories'': Tail-whip, left & right pistol barrels

: ''Beast Wars Metals'' Jaguar is a heavy [[Retool|retooling]] of [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal Cheetor]], just as Ravage's robot mode CG model in the show is an altered [[Transmetal]] Cheetor. He transforms into a robotic big cat, with flip-out thrusters for a third "flight" mode (not, as in the episode, into a cassette tape that plays wicked 1980s style electric guitar, for obvious reasons). His forearms each have a spring-loaded flip out pistol stub, which can be extended with add-on barrels that clip to his rear legs in beast mode. His tail also can detach to form a whip-weapon, but he doesn't hold it very well.

: This mold was used to make [[BotCon 2001]]'s version of [[Tigatron]]. The original version was used to make ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and as the basis for the non-toy character [[Cataclysm]].

===Kyokushō Henkei Transformers===

[[Image:STFRavage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|So tiny... So CUTE!]]
* '''Soundwave''' (2003)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF 05'''

: The ''[[Kyokushō Henkei Transformers]]'' version of Soundwave comes with a ''teeeeeny'' version of Ravage, which does actually transform into a microcassette that fits in the tape-case door. ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Ravage may very well be the actual smallest functioning ''Transformers'' toy made.

:He's relatively the size of a ''penny''.

{{-}}

===Alternators===

[[Image:AlternatorsRavage%28Corvette%29.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He brakes for Meow Mix and nothing else...well, sometimes nip.]]
* '''Battle Ravage''' (2004)
*''Alternator ID number:'' '''11'''
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-11'''
*''Accessories:'' Engine-blaster

: A retooling of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Tracks]], "Battle" Ravage transforms ([[trademark]] struggles) into a 1:24-scale licensed replica of the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible, with opening doors, hood, trunk, plus a "realistic" driver/passenger compartment. Each robot-mode forearm contains slide-out (non-firing) double blasters. A part of his engine forms a double-barreled hand-held blaster.

: The Tracks hardtop version of this mold was also used to make ''Alternators'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], whereas the convertible version originally used for Ravage was used as the basis for the one-of-a-kind [[Michael Bay|BayBot]].

: The Japanese ''Binaltech'' version of the toy is notable for sporting the American name "Ravage" rather than the established Japanese name, "Jaguar".

{{-}}

[[Image:Alternatorsravagejaguar.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Soundwave had MTV pimp his kitty.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Alternator, 2007)

:''Alternator ID number'': '''26'''

: The second version of ''Alternators'' Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed Jaguar XK (appropriately enough), with all the normal bells and whistles inherent in the line (opening doors, seats, etc). This is a toy of many "firsts". Not only is it the first ''Alternators'' character with two distinctly different toys, it's one of the first two Decepticon Alternators with an original mold (alongside [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]). ''And'' it's the first ''Alternators'' character to have a non-humanoid "robot" mode, as its non-car form is now a quadrupedal big cat.

: After Ravage had been released in various European markets, his and Rumble's releases in the United States were questionable for a while. Ultimately, they were shuffled to be Wal-Mart [[Exclusive|exclusives]], set in an endcap display alongside the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] exclusive gift set in March/April 2007...in some stores. In others, they were crammed in the normal aisle with everything else. Assuming they even showed up at all.

: On this note, Ravage has a [[United Kingdom|Great Britain]] license plate, regardless of which country the toy was purchased in. The steering wheel, however, is on the left, as in the United States. I say, ''meow.''

{{-}}

===Universe (2008)===
====Generation 1 Series====
[[Image:Ravageuniverse2008.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm finally 3D now, but in exchange for some poseability.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)

:Surprisingly enough, the new-mold toy of [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] for the 25th anniversary of the Transformers brand features a similarly new-mold toy of Ravage, which can be carried in "tape mode" on pegs in the back bed of Hound's vehicle form. In this mode, Ravage is compatible with either the original Soundwave or Soundblaster, and in jaguar mode, the 5mm holes can accommodate the weapons of the original Ravage (Even though there are tiny unpainted versions of the weapons above his hips).

:At [[BotCon 2008]], Hasbro claimed that Ravage's alternate mode would be marketed as a "capture mode" so that young children, unsavvy about technology from fifteen years before they were born, wouldn't be confused. Despite the toy arguably still treating Ravage as "captured" by Hound, the packaging only refers to Ravage's alternate mode as a "tape mode."

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
*'''Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13'''

:A repaint of Universe Ravage, Jaguar features the same plastic colors as his Universe counterpart, only his legs are a significantly darker metallic gray than the Hasbro version (so much so they almost look black in certain lights).

===Unreleased===

* A ''[[Titanium Series]]'' version of the Cybertron Heroes "Soundblaster", a redeco of the Cybertron Heroes [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]], was supposed to come with a tiny Ravage cassette/jaguar, as opposed to the original toy's tiny [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. However, this and several other toys from the series were canceled.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Wallet===
*'''Ravage Wallet'''

: Released in 1984 as one of the earliest Transformers merchandise items, this vinyl wallet featured a holographic image that changed from Ravage's [[package art]] to the Decepticon version of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Transformers [[logo]].

===Decoy===
*'''Ravage''' (Decoy, 1986)
*''Decoy ID number'': '''49'''

: Coming packaged at random on carded ''Transformers'' toys during 1986, this is a soft-rubber version of Ravage in his jaguar mode. He—like all Decepticon [[Decoy|Decoys]]—was available in both purple and red, with the red version being considerably rarer. These are not erasers!

===Hard Hero===
[[Image:HardHero Ravage statue.JPG|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Ravage''' (2003)

:[[Hard Hero]]'s Ravage is a 5-inch tall, 8.5-inch wide cold-cast porcelain statue. It was limited to 2000 pieces and advertised as "first in the Decepticon Cassette Series", but ultimately no other Mini-Cassette statues were ever produced.

:Ravage was also available in a shiny "metallic" version, of which only 500 statues were produced.

{{-}}

===Statue===
[[Image:Gijoebaronessravagestatue.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Admit it, you wish you were Ravage right now.]]
*'''Baroness & Ravage Statue'''

:At the 2006 UK Toy Fair, [[First4Figures]] revealed a statue of The Baroness and Ravage based on the art from the Convention Edition of [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers, Part 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers Vol.1, Part 3]]. However, this statue will not be released[http://www.theterrordrome.com/2009/03/first-4-figures-baroness-ravage-statue-canceled/]—which is sad, since ''it's awesome''.

{{canceledtoy}}
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Ravage robotheroes.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Wavage!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Ravage''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2007)

: Released in 2007 as a [[Robot Heroes]] vs. pack with [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Optimus Prime]]. Ravage is ''adowable''!

{{-}}

===3D Battle-Card===

*'''Ravage''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
*''Card ID number'':

[[Image:Ravage Battle Card.jpg|right|80px|thumb|Flat Cat.]]
: A 23-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Ravage "transforms" into a black cat. He uses the same parts layout as [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]], [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] and [[Optimus Primal toys]].

{{-}}

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm Ravage at TFU.info]

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Ravage (G1)/toys

2009-04-10T17:41:27Z

Wednesday: /* Toys */ trimming out faux-HTML (artifacts from the move?)

You've got a lot of toys, haven't you? [[Ravage (G1)|You cute wuddle kitty!]]

==Toys==
===Generation 1===

[[Image:G1Ravage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Behold... the world's skinniest jaguar.]]
* '''Ravage / Rumble''' (Cassette, 1984/1998/1986/1987)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''19''', '''D-59''', '''D-104'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case ('85 Takara only)

: The first Ravage toy transforms from a robotic jaguar into a microcassette. In cassette mode, he can fit into the tape compartments of the [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. For his [[Hasbro]] release, he was sold on a card along with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] in 1984-1986, and as an individual by [[Takara]] from 1985-1987; the '85 version came with an extra clear-plastic tape-case, but later releases omitted the accessory.

: This mold was later used to make [[Glit]] and [[Howlback]].

{{-}}

[[Image:G1Jaguar%28reissue%29.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A light breeze is enough to defeat him.]]
*'''Soundblaster''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: The [[Transformers Collection]] [[reissue]] of [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundblaster]] (the rebuilt form of Soundwave from the Japanese [[The Headmasters (franchise)|''Headmasters'' series]]) came with bonus "Cassettrons" Jaguar (Ravage) and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. Both came with their own extra tape-cases, and had small stickers depicting the "weak points" of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] when viewed through the clear-red chest of Soundblaster's tape door.

{{-}}

*'''Soundwave''' (Decepticon, 2007)
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles

: Hasbro's ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]''-themed reissue of Soundwave is a [[redeco]] of the Transformers Collection Soundblaster, coming with the double-tape door and both Ravage and Laserbeak as pack-ins.

{{-}}

===Beast Wars===

[[Image:ShadowPanther toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Fuzzy kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 1996)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-7'''
*''Accessories:'' Tail-gun, water-shooting gun

: This originally Japanese toy, named [[Shadow Panther]], is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] toy in black, silver, and yellow, transforming into a generic big feline. His tail/flanks separate to form a non-firing blaster, while his underbelly forms a water-shooting "gut gun" that can be used in either mode.

: Much later, this toy was offered through Hasbro's online collector service under the name "'''Tripredacus Agent'''", with an online bio indicating he was the same character as Ravage (then called "Tripredacus Agent" due to [[trademark]] issues).

: This mold was also used to make [[Tigatron]], and was planned to be used for the canceled ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy [[Nightprowler]].

{{-}}

[[Image:TripredacusAgent toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Mutant kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 2001)
*''Accessories:'' Launcher, missile, tail-flail

: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] is a redeco of—wait, can you guess?—[[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal 2 Cheetor]], in black, silver, and gold, transforming into a monstrous techno-organic (but not [[technorganic]]) big cat. He has a spring-loaded missile launcher on his cat-mode back that can be removed and used as a hand-held weapon, plus his tail detaches to form a hand-held flail. His left forearm has a flip-up blaster-shield (of dubious usefulness), while flipping up a panel on his right-rear leg reveals his [[spark crystal]].

{{-}}

===Beast Wars Metals===

[[Image:JaguarX9 toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Metal kitty!]]
* '''Metals Jaguar''' (Deluxe, 1999)
*''Japanese ID number'': '''X-9'''
*''Accessories'': Tail-whip, left & right pistol barrels

: ''Beast Wars Metals'' Jaguar is a heavy [[Retool|retooling]] of [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal Cheetor]], just as Ravage's robot mode CG model in the show is an altered [[Transmetal]] Cheetor. He transforms into a robotic big cat, with flip-out thrusters for a third "flight" mode (not, as in the episode, into a cassette tape that plays wicked 1980s style electric guitar, for obvious reasons). His forearms each have a spring-loaded flip out pistol stub, which can be extended with add-on barrels that clip to his rear legs in beast mode. His tail also can detach to form a whip-weapon, but he doesn't hold it very well.

: This mold was used to make [[BotCon 2001]]'s version of [[Tigatron]]. The original version was used to make ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and as the basis for the non-toy character [[Cataclysm]].

===Kyokushō Henkei Transformers===

[[Image:STFRavage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|So tiny... So CUTE!]]
* '''Soundwave''' (2003)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF 05'''

: The ''[[Kyokushō Henkei Transformers]]'' version of Soundwave comes with a ''teeeeeny'' version of Ravage, which does actually transform into a microcassette that fits in the tape-case door. ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Ravage may very well be the actual smallest functioning ''Transformers'' toy made.

:He's relatively the size of a ''penny''.

{{-}}

===Alternators===

[[Image:AlternatorsRavage%28Corvette%29.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He brakes for Meow Mix and nothing else...well, sometimes nip.]]
* '''Battle Ravage''' (2004)
*''Alternator ID number:'' '''11'''
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-11'''
*''Accessories:'' Engine-blaster

: A retooling of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Tracks]], "Battle" Ravage transforms ([[trademark]] struggles) into a 1:24-scale licensed replica of the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible, with opening doors, hood, trunk, plus a "realistic" driver/passenger compartment. Each robot-mode forearm contains slide-out (non-firing) double blasters. A part of his engine forms a double-barreled hand-held blaster.

: The Tracks hardtop version of this mold was also used to make ''Alternators'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], whereas the convertible version originally used for Ravage was used as the basis for the one-of-a-kind [[Michael Bay|BayBot]].

: The Japanese ''Binaltech'' version of the toy is notable for sporting the American name "Ravage" rather than the established Japanese name, "Jaguar".

{{-}}

[[Image:Alternatorsravagejaguar.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Soundwave had MTV pimp his kitty.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Alternator, 2007)

:''Alternator ID number'': '''26'''

: The second version of ''Alternators'' Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed Jaguar XK (appropriately enough), with all the normal bells and whistles inherent in the line (opening doors, seats, etc). This is a toy of many "firsts". Not only is it the first ''Alternators'' character with two distinctly different toys, it's one of the first two Decepticon Alternators with an original mold (alongside [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]). ''And'' it's the first ''Alternators'' character to have a non-humanoid "robot" mode, as its non-car form is now a quadrupedal big cat.

: After Ravage had been released in various European markets, his and Rumble's releases in the United States were questionable for a while. Ultimately, they were shuffled to be Wal-Mart [[Exclusive|exclusives]], set in an endcap display alongside the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] exclusive gift set in March/April 2007...in some stores. In others, they were crammed in the normal aisle with everything else. Assuming they even showed up at all.

: On this note, Ravage has a [[United Kingdom|Great Britain]] license plate, regardless of which country the toy was purchased in. The steering wheel, however, is on the left, as in the United States. I say, ''meow.''

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===Universe (2008)===
====Generation 1 Series====
[[Image:Ravageuniverse2008.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm finally 3D now, but in exchange for some poseability.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)

:Surprisingly enough, the new-mold toy of [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] for the 25th anniversary of the Transformers brand features a similarly new-mold toy of Ravage, which can be carried in "tape mode" on pegs in the back bed of Hound's vehicle form. In this mode, Ravage is compatible with either the original Soundwave or Soundblaster, and in jaguar mode, the 5mm holes can accommodate the weapons of the original Ravage (Even though there are tiny unpainted versions of the weapons above his hips).

:At [[BotCon 2008]], Hasbro claimed that Ravage's alternate mode would be marketed as a "capture mode" so that young children, unsavvy about technology from fifteen years before they were born, wouldn't be confused. Despite the toy arguably still treating Ravage as "captured" by Hound, the packaging only refers to Ravage's alternate mode as a "tape mode."

{{-}}

===Henkei! Henkei!===
*'''Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13'''

:A repaint of Universe Ravage, Jaguar features the same plastic colors as his Universe counterpart, only his legs are a significantly darker metallic gray than the Hasbro version (so much so they almost look black in certain lights).

===Unreleased===

* A ''[[Titanium Series]]'' version of the Cybertron Heroes "Soundblaster", a redeco of the Cybertron Heroes [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]], was supposed to come with a tiny Ravage cassette/jaguar, as opposed to the original toy's tiny [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. However, this and several other toys from the series were canceled.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Wallet===
*'''Ravage Wallet'''

: Released in 1984 as one of the earliest Transformers merchandise items, this vinyl wallet featured a holographic image that changed from Ravage's [[package art]] to the Decepticon version of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Transformers [[logo]].

===Decoy===
*'''Ravage''' (Decoy, 1986)
*''Decoy ID number'': '''49'''

: Coming packaged at random on carded ''Transformers'' toys during 1986, this is a soft-rubber version of Ravage in his jaguar mode. He—like all Decepticon [[Decoy|Decoys]]—was available in both purple and red, with the red version being considerably rarer. These are not erasers!

===Hard Hero===
[[Image:HardHero Ravage statue.JPG|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Ravage''' (2003)

:[[Hard Hero]]'s Ravage is a 5-inch tall, 8.5-inch wide cold-cast porcelain statue. It was limited to 2000 pieces and advertised as "first in the Decepticon Cassette Series", but ultimately no other Mini-Cassette statues were ever produced.

:Ravage was also available in a shiny "metallic" version, of which only 500 statues were produced.

{{-}}

===Statue===
[[Image:Gijoebaronessravagestatue.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Admit it, you wish you were Ravage right now.]]
*'''Baroness & Ravage Statue'''

:At the 2006 UK Toy Fair, [[First4Figures]] revealed a statue of The Baroness and Ravage based on the art from the Convention Edition of [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers, Part 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers Vol.1, Part 3]]. However, this statue will not be released[http://www.theterrordrome.com/2009/03/first-4-figures-baroness-ravage-statue-canceled/]—which is sad, since ''it's awesome''.

{{canceledtoy}}
{{-}}

===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Ravage robotheroes.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Wavage!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Ravage''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2007)

: Released in 2007 as a [[Robot Heroes]] vs. pack with [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Optimus Prime]]. Ravage is ''adowable''!

{{-}}

===3D Battle-Card===


*'''Ravage''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
*''Card ID number'':

[[Image:Ravage Battle Card.jpg|right|80px|thumb|Flat Cat.]]
: A 23-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Ravage "transforms" into a black cat. He uses the same parts layout as [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]], [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] and [[Optimus Primal toys]].

{{-}}

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm Ravage at TFU.info]

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Ravage (G1)/toys

2009-04-10T17:39:45Z

Wednesday: /* Generation 1 */ trimming away excess faux-markup

You've got a lot of toys, haven't you? [[Ravage (G1)|You cute wuddle kitty!]]

==Toys==
===Generation 1===

[[Image:G1Ravage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Behold... the world's skinniest jaguar.]]
* '''Ravage / Rumble''' (Cassette, 1984/1998/1986/1987)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''19''', '''D-59''', '''D-104'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case ('85 Takara only)

: The first Ravage toy transforms from a robotic jaguar into a microcassette. In cassette mode, he can fit into the tape compartments of the [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. For his [[Hasbro]] release, he was sold on a card along with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] in 1984-1986, and as an individual by [[Takara]] from 1985-1987; the '85 version came with an extra clear-plastic tape-case, but later releases omitted the accessory.

: This mold was later used to make [[Glit]] and [[Howlback]].

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[[Image:G1Jaguar%28reissue%29.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A light breeze is enough to defeat him.]]
*'''Soundblaster''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles, tape case

: The [[Transformers Collection]] [[reissue]] of [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundblaster]] (the rebuilt form of Soundwave from the Japanese [[The Headmasters (franchise)|''Headmasters'' series]]) came with bonus "Cassettrons" Jaguar (Ravage) and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. Both came with their own extra tape-cases, and had small stickers depicting the "weak points" of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] when viewed through the clear-red chest of Soundblaster's tape door.

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*'''Soundwave''' (Decepticon, 2007)
*''Accessories:'' Left & right missiles

: Hasbro's ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]''-themed reissue of Soundwave is a [[redeco]] of the Transformers Collection Soundblaster, coming with the double-tape door and both Ravage and Laserbeak as pack-ins.

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===Beast Wars===


[[Image:ShadowPanther toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Fuzzy kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 1996)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-7'''
*''Accessories:'' Tail-gun, water-shooting gun

: This originally Japanese toy, named [[Shadow Panther]], is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]] toy in black, silver, and yellow, transforming into a generic big feline. His tail/flanks separate to form a non-firing blaster, while his underbelly forms a water-shooting "gut gun" that can be used in either mode.

: Much later, this toy was offered through Hasbro's online collector service under the name "'''Tripredacus Agent'''", with an online bio indicating he was the same character as Ravage (then called "Tripredacus Agent" due to [[trademark]] issues).

: This mold was also used to make [[Tigatron]], and was planned to be used for the canceled ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy [[Nightprowler]].

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[[Image:TripredacusAgent toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Mutant kitty!]]
* '''Tripredacus Agent''' (Deluxe, 2001)
*''Accessories:'' Launcher, missile, tail-flail

: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] is a redeco of—wait, can you guess?—[[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal 2 Cheetor]], in black, silver, and gold, transforming into a monstrous techno-organic (but not [[technorganic]]) big cat. He has a spring-loaded missile launcher on his cat-mode back that can be removed and used as a hand-held weapon, plus his tail detaches to form a hand-held flail. His left forearm has a flip-up blaster-shield (of dubious usefulness), while flipping up a panel on his right-rear leg reveals his [[spark crystal]].

{{-}}

===Beast Wars Metals===


[[Image:JaguarX9 toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Metal kitty!]]
* '''Metals Jaguar''' (Deluxe, 1999)
*''Japanese ID number'': '''X-9'''
*''Accessories'': Tail-whip, left & right pistol barrels

: ''Beast Wars Metals'' Jaguar is a heavy [[Retool|retooling]] of [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Transmetal Cheetor]], just as Ravage's robot mode CG model in the show is an altered [[Transmetal]] Cheetor. He transforms into a robotic big cat, with flip-out thrusters for a third "flight" mode (not, as in the episode, into a cassette tape that plays wicked 1980s style electric guitar, for obvious reasons). His forearms each have a spring-loaded flip out pistol stub, which can be extended with add-on barrels that clip to his rear legs in beast mode. His tail also can detach to form a whip-weapon, but he doesn't hold it very well.

: This mold was used to make [[BotCon 2001]]'s version of [[Tigatron]]. The original version was used to make ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and as the basis for the non-toy character [[Cataclysm]].

===Kyokushō Henkei Transformers===


[[Image:STFRavage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|So tiny... So CUTE!]]
* '''Soundwave''' (2003)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF 05'''

: The ''[[Kyokushō Henkei Transformers]]'' version of Soundwave comes with a ''teeeeeny'' version of Ravage, which does actually transform into a microcassette that fits in the tape-case door. ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Ravage may very well be the actual smallest functioning ''Transformers'' toy made.

:He's relatively the size of a ''penny''.

{{-}}

===Alternators===


[[Image:AlternatorsRavage%28Corvette%29.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He brakes for Meow Mix and nothing else...well, sometimes nip.]]
* '''Battle Ravage''' (2004)
*''Alternator ID number:'' '''11'''
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-11'''
*''Accessories:'' Engine-blaster

: A retooling of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Tracks]], "Battle" Ravage transforms ([[trademark]] struggles) into a 1:24-scale licensed replica of the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible, with opening doors, hood, trunk, plus a "realistic" driver/passenger compartment. Each robot-mode forearm contains slide-out (non-firing) double blasters. A part of his engine forms a double-barreled hand-held blaster.

: The Tracks hardtop version of this mold was also used to make ''Alternators'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], whereas the convertible version originally used for Ravage was used as the basis for the one-of-a-kind [[Michael Bay|BayBot]].

: The Japanese ''Binaltech'' version of the toy is notable for sporting the American name "Ravage" rather than the established Japanese name, "Jaguar".

{{-}}



[[Image:Alternatorsravagejaguar.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Soundwave had MTV pimp his kitty.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Alternator, 2007)

:''Alternator ID number'': '''26'''

: The second version of ''Alternators'' Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed Jaguar XK (appropriately enough), with all the normal bells and whistles inherent in the line (opening doors, seats, etc). This is a toy of many "firsts". Not only is it the first ''Alternators'' character with two distinctly different toys, it's one of the first two Decepticon Alternators with an original mold (alongside [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]). ''And'' it's the first ''Alternators'' character to have a non-humanoid "robot" mode, as its non-car form is now a quadrupedal big cat.

: After Ravage had been released in various European markets, his and Rumble's releases in the United States were questionable for a while. Ultimately, they were shuffled to be Wal-Mart [[Exclusive|exclusives]], set in an endcap display alongside the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] exclusive gift set in March/April 2007...in some stores. In others, they were crammed in the normal aisle with everything else. Assuming they even showed up at all.

: On this note, Ravage has a [[United Kingdom|Great Britain]] license plate, regardless of which country the toy was purchased in. The steering wheel, however, is on the left, as in the United States. I say, ''meow.''

{{-}}

===Universe (2008)===
====Generation 1 Series====
[[Image:Ravageuniverse2008.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I'm finally 3D now, but in exchange for some poseability.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)

:Surprisingly enough, the new-mold toy of [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] for the 25th anniversary of the Transformers brand features a similarly new-mold toy of Ravage, which can be carried in "tape mode" on pegs in the back bed of Hound's vehicle form. In this mode, Ravage is compatible with either the original Soundwave or Soundblaster, and in jaguar mode, the 5mm holes can accommodate the weapons of the original Ravage (Even though there are tiny unpainted versions of the weapons above his hips).

:At [[BotCon 2008]], Hasbro claimed that Ravage's alternate mode would be marketed as a "capture mode" so that young children, unsavvy about technology from fifteen years before they were born, wouldn't be confused. Despite the toy arguably still treating Ravage as "captured" by Hound, the packaging only refers to Ravage's alternate mode as a "tape mode."

{{-}}

===Henkei! Henkei!===
*'''Hound''' (Deluxe, 2008)
*''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-13'''

:A repaint of Universe Ravage, Jaguar features the same plastic colors as his Universe counterpart, only his legs are a significantly darker metallic gray than the Hasbro version (so much so they almost look black in certain lights).

===Unreleased===


* A ''[[Titanium Series]]'' version of the Cybertron Heroes "Soundblaster", a redeco of the Cybertron Heroes [[Soundwave (G1) toys|Soundwave]], was supposed to come with a tiny Ravage cassette/jaguar, as opposed to the original toy's tiny [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. However, this and several other toys from the series were canceled.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Wallet===
*'''Ravage Wallet'''

: Released in 1984 as one of the earliest Transformers merchandise items, this vinyl wallet featured a holographic image that changed from Ravage's [[package art]] to the Decepticon version of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Transformers [[logo]].

===Decoy===
*'''Ravage''' (Decoy, 1986)
*''Decoy ID number'': '''49'''

: Coming packaged at random on carded ''Transformers'' toys during 1986, this is a soft-rubber version of Ravage in his jaguar mode. He—like all Decepticon [[Decoy|Decoys]]—was available in both purple and red, with the red version being considerably rarer. These are not erasers!

===Hard Hero===
[[Image:HardHero Ravage statue.JPG|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Ravage''' (2003)

:[[Hard Hero]]'s Ravage is a 5-inch tall, 8.5-inch wide cold-cast porcelain statue. It was limited to 2000 pieces and advertised as "first in the Decepticon Cassette Series", but ultimately no other Mini-Cassette statues were ever produced.

:Ravage was also available in a shiny "metallic" version, of which only 500 statues were produced.

{{-}}

===Statue===
[[Image:Gijoebaronessravagestatue.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Admit it, you wish you were Ravage right now.]]
*'''Baroness & Ravage Statue'''

:At the 2006 UK Toy Fair, [[First4Figures]] revealed a statue of The Baroness and Ravage based on the art from the Convention Edition of [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers, Part 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers Vol.1, Part 3]]. However, this statue will not be released[http://www.theterrordrome.com/2009/03/first-4-figures-baroness-ravage-statue-canceled/]—which is sad, since ''it's awesome''.

{{canceledtoy}}
{{-}}

===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Ravage robotheroes.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Wavage!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Ravage''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2007)

: Released in 2007 as a [[Robot Heroes]] vs. pack with [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Optimus Prime]]. Ravage is ''adowable''!

{{-}}

===3D Battle-Card===


*'''Ravage''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
*''Card ID number'':

[[Image:Ravage Battle Card.jpg|right|80px|thumb|Flat Cat.]]
: A 23-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Ravage "transforms" into a black cat. He uses the same parts layout as [[Cheetor (BW) toys|Cheetor]], [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] and [[Optimus Primal toys]].

{{-}}

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm Ravage at TFU.info]

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[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Headmasters characters]]
[[Category:Mini-Cassettes]]
[[Category:Predacons]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:Transmetals]]
[[Category:Transmetals 2]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]