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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Welltowiki: /* whats with the brave wiki link */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Images==&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some pictures of the various TF model re-uses in Brave. A bunch of these came from a friend scanning from his Sunrise robot book, but I don&#039;t remember the name of the book now... will have to ask. Shadowmaru and Kagerou are my scans, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dagbase.jpg Dagbase]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dynoguystooooo01b.jpg Dino Geist and the Geisters]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/atlasbomber01b.jpg Goryu and Hiryu]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Kagerou01b.jpg Kagerou]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/redgeist.jpg Red Geist]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Shadowmaru01a.jpg Shadowmaru]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/gsbuddies01b.jpg Thunder Dagwon and friends]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/scorp01b.jpg Zazorigan and Death Garrygun]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure how many we should incorporate - open to suggestions. I don&#039;t think I ever asked him for Death Garrygun scans, but I own the toy anyway... oh, actually, I think Jhiaxus owns both Sky Garry and Death Garrygun now, so maybe a side-by-side toy pic would also be good. EDIT: Oh, wait, Death Garrygun is in the Zazorigan picture, oops. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion, I think it is good to put some comparison pictures which have a TF and a Brave &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[:Image:Dvd broadcast.jpg|example]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;in the article. :) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;BTW, I&#039;m not a sharp person, so I didn&#039;t notice &#039;til saw the url of the link you provided. I found out that you are one of the owner of the &amp;quot;Obscure Transformers Website&amp;quot;. In fact, I&#039;ve be the fan and the visitor of your site since I was still a student! ;D&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 01:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;ve got a good handful of Brave websites bookmarked if pics of those guys are needed. We&#039;d just have to decide which characters to use, and to find a close-matching image of the TF to go along. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: In my opinion, I think those re-use design could be divided into 4 categories &lt;br /&gt;
:* Extremely obvious: Red Geist, Goryu and Hiryu, Dag Base, Zazorigan and Death Garrygun&lt;br /&gt;
:* Obvious: Armor Geist, Horn Geist&lt;br /&gt;
:* Okay: Ptera Geist, Shadowmaru&lt;br /&gt;
:* Not so obvious: Thunder Dagwon, Kagerou, Thunder Geist&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; Comparing standard is according to the design use in animation instead of toy, that&#039;s why Shadowmaru is in the &amp;quot;Okay Category&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Extremely obvious&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Obvious&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
Might be a good idea to list all the toys and designs that got used in various BRave series. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Isn&#039;t Sazori Gan/Zazorigun a non-toy character? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Non-toy. Although I&#039;ve seen a custom one on a Brave toy image site once so maybe the other editor wasn&#039;t aware. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rewrite explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I originally copied most of this article from Wikipedia; however Walky later explained to me that that isn&#039;t an acceptable practice here, and therefore I have since voluntarily rewritten it. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese websites ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve got a few Brave websites (focusing mainly on the toys) bookmarked, would it be worth it to add one or two to the external links? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Micromaster Station from Brave Police ==&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone known the names of those Micromaster Station called in Brave Police? Um, I only find one called &amp;quot;[http://tfbaka.de-blog.jp/1dai/2008/01/post_51d7.html Crime scene from the construction site]&amp;quot; (Repaint [[Ironworks (Micromaster)|Ironworks]]). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;It seems difficult to find but I&#039;m still trying. :)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know ^^;  Sorry!  Also, do you know if they were ever in the anime?  I haven&#039;t seen that much of Brave Police, so I dont know.  If they were not in the anime, it would be good to put a note in about that. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:58, 2008 February 28 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: As far as I know, the repaint Micromaster Stations are toy-only products, in other words, they didn&#039;t show up in anime. :)By the way, you really did good job in adding new information for this article. ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Thank you! :) --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 16:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but could someone please explain to me (or at least include an explanation) of what &amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot; refers to? The link just redirects to Hot Rod Toys, but nothing specific. Do you mean the Battlestars micromaster version? Forgive my ignorance, but I imagine there will be plenty of other folks who won&#039;t know what this is referring to either.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 00:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
:The link &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be redirecting you to the Hot Rod toys page&#039;s Trivia section, which includes a good chunk of paragraph on what New Rodimus was going to be. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; new Rodimus. The Powermastery concept-only Rodimus. Gotcha.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Detour. Can someone please fix the link (I don&#039;t know how)?[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 12:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Recent edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You know, considering this is a Transformers wiki and not a Brave wiki, should this article really be that expansive? Shouldn&#039;t it just stick to the relationship Brave has with Transformers, and basic overall information, and call it a day? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; also all copied directly from Wikipedia. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No surprise there. It&#039;s the same editor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unique situation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing with the &#039;&#039;Car Robots&#039;&#039; characters. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 18:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|If Japanese names affected article titles, then [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] would be at Megazarak (Universe) and [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] at Roadbuster (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
|My reason to propose moving this article back to [[Brave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|Except that the Car Robot characters are an unique situation.&lt;br /&gt;
|Interrobang&#039;s reason for removing the move template from the article}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Really though, what does the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing mean? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 12:22, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;ll try. I&#039;m sure someone else will correct any misunderstandings I may have. Car Robots and Robots in Disguise are each based around the same animation, however CR is a G1 continuity family franchise and RID is an RID continuity family franchise. Thus, they actually feature separate characters that are nonetheless covered on the same pages as each other because it is silly to duplicate the pages entirely except for names and categories. Therefore, redirects for the RID names have been created and are taken into account when assigning names to other articles. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:31, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s really a bit unusual in that we largely ignore the Japanese version.  We document the English dub and then simply make notes about the differences in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly this is because Japan&#039;s treatment of CR was so weird.  It considers CR and RiD to be the same continuity.  They &#039;&#039;&#039;retroactively&#039;&#039;&#039; shoved CR into occurring int he G1 timeline in the year 2000 because they heard that the american dub featured references to the G1 cartoon in its past.  (Which is true, R.I.D. seems to have something very similar to the G1 cartoon in its backstory.  But not identical.)&lt;br /&gt;
::This creates all sorts of maddening problems, not the least of which that Fire Convoy is a &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; character from Optimus Prime in Japan -- they could have met face to face and shaken hands -- but he&#039;s Optimus Prime in America.  Yet Japan still insists they are the same character.&lt;br /&gt;
::All we can do it throw up our hands, say &amp;quot;this doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense&amp;quot; and roll with it, while not bending over backwards to accomodate that stupidity any more than Hasbro&#039;s &amp;quot;Prime isn&#039;t part of the Multiverse&amp;quot; declaration.&lt;br /&gt;
::If the distinction ever come up in fiction we&#039;ll probably have to change everything, but the continuity is almost toxically complicated-- tied into the events of Kiss Players Positron and Takara&#039;s batshit attempts to shove everything into the G1 cartoon timeline before finally giving up and admitting there was more than one TF universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:36, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of game? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article states that The Saint Of The Braves: Baan Gaan was cancelled and &amp;quot;later made into a game&amp;quot;; is that a board game, a card game, a video game or what? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:02, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:According to the Brave page on Wikipedia (unsourced, of course) a video game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:13, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m positive that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluAT_xtR0A/ it is a videogame]. --[[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 11:02, 3 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should we change &amp;quot;Obari pose&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Brave perspective&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This questions is for those far more familiar with the &#039;&#039;Brave&#039;&#039; franchise. The wiki uses the &amp;quot;angle of sword larger than the wielder&amp;quot; pose as the &amp;quot;Obari pose.&amp;quot; BUT, [https://twitter.com/Des_Shinta/status/1834181155584700775 this person on Twitter] pointing out that the actual snap-down should be more credited to Mitsuo Fukuda, which had me rabbit-holing around [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brave-perspective Know Your Meme], leading to this &amp;quot;[https://togetter.com/li/94518 interview]&amp;quot; citing the account [https://twitter.com/T_Katuragi T_Katuragi/すなつぶ] and [https://twitter.com/fukuda320 Fukuda] himself. The only Brave title I&#039;m most familiar with was GaoGaiGar, so I&#039;ll let the Brave fans have the stage. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 12:49, 14 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== whats with the brave wiki link ==&lt;br /&gt;
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it leads to an empty page&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Welltowiki|Welltowiki]] ([[User talk:Welltowiki|talk]]) 11:41, 10 November 2024 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Welltowiki: /* Should we change &amp;quot;Obari pose&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Brave perspective&amp;quot;? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Images==&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some pictures of the various TF model re-uses in Brave. A bunch of these came from a friend scanning from his Sunrise robot book, but I don&#039;t remember the name of the book now... will have to ask. Shadowmaru and Kagerou are my scans, though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dagbase.jpg Dagbase]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dynoguystooooo01b.jpg Dino Geist and the Geisters]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/atlasbomber01b.jpg Goryu and Hiryu]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Kagerou01b.jpg Kagerou]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/redgeist.jpg Red Geist]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Shadowmaru01a.jpg Shadowmaru]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/gsbuddies01b.jpg Thunder Dagwon and friends]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/scorp01b.jpg Zazorigan and Death Garrygun]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure how many we should incorporate - open to suggestions. I don&#039;t think I ever asked him for Death Garrygun scans, but I own the toy anyway... oh, actually, I think Jhiaxus owns both Sky Garry and Death Garrygun now, so maybe a side-by-side toy pic would also be good. EDIT: Oh, wait, Death Garrygun is in the Zazorigan picture, oops. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion, I think it is good to put some comparison pictures which have a TF and a Brave &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[:Image:Dvd broadcast.jpg|example]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;in the article. :) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;BTW, I&#039;m not a sharp person, so I didn&#039;t notice &#039;til saw the url of the link you provided. I found out that you are one of the owner of the &amp;quot;Obscure Transformers Website&amp;quot;. In fact, I&#039;ve be the fan and the visitor of your site since I was still a student! ;D&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 01:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;ve got a good handful of Brave websites bookmarked if pics of those guys are needed. We&#039;d just have to decide which characters to use, and to find a close-matching image of the TF to go along. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: In my opinion, I think those re-use design could be divided into 4 categories &lt;br /&gt;
:* Extremely obvious: Red Geist, Goryu and Hiryu, Dag Base, Zazorigan and Death Garrygun&lt;br /&gt;
:* Obvious: Armor Geist, Horn Geist&lt;br /&gt;
:* Okay: Ptera Geist, Shadowmaru&lt;br /&gt;
:* Not so obvious: Thunder Dagwon, Kagerou, Thunder Geist&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; Comparing standard is according to the design use in animation instead of toy, that&#039;s why Shadowmaru is in the &amp;quot;Okay Category&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Extremely obvious&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Obvious&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
Might be a good idea to list all the toys and designs that got used in various BRave series. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Isn&#039;t Sazori Gan/Zazorigun a non-toy character? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Non-toy. Although I&#039;ve seen a custom one on a Brave toy image site once so maybe the other editor wasn&#039;t aware. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Rewrite explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I originally copied most of this article from Wikipedia; however Walky later explained to me that that isn&#039;t an acceptable practice here, and therefore I have since voluntarily rewritten it. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Japanese websites ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve got a few Brave websites (focusing mainly on the toys) bookmarked, would it be worth it to add one or two to the external links? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Micromaster Station from Brave Police ==&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone known the names of those Micromaster Station called in Brave Police? Um, I only find one called &amp;quot;[http://tfbaka.de-blog.jp/1dai/2008/01/post_51d7.html Crime scene from the construction site]&amp;quot; (Repaint [[Ironworks (Micromaster)|Ironworks]]). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;It seems difficult to find but I&#039;m still trying. :)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know ^^;  Sorry!  Also, do you know if they were ever in the anime?  I haven&#039;t seen that much of Brave Police, so I dont know.  If they were not in the anime, it would be good to put a note in about that. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:58, 2008 February 28 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: As far as I know, the repaint Micromaster Stations are toy-only products, in other words, they didn&#039;t show up in anime. :)By the way, you really did good job in adding new information for this article. ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Thank you! :) --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 16:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but could someone please explain to me (or at least include an explanation) of what &amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot; refers to? The link just redirects to Hot Rod Toys, but nothing specific. Do you mean the Battlestars micromaster version? Forgive my ignorance, but I imagine there will be plenty of other folks who won&#039;t know what this is referring to either.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 00:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
:The link &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be redirecting you to the Hot Rod toys page&#039;s Trivia section, which includes a good chunk of paragraph on what New Rodimus was going to be. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; new Rodimus. The Powermastery concept-only Rodimus. Gotcha.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Detour. Can someone please fix the link (I don&#039;t know how)?[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 12:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Recent edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You know, considering this is a Transformers wiki and not a Brave wiki, should this article really be that expansive? Shouldn&#039;t it just stick to the relationship Brave has with Transformers, and basic overall information, and call it a day? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; also all copied directly from Wikipedia. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No surprise there. It&#039;s the same editor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unique situation ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please explain the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing with the &#039;&#039;Car Robots&#039;&#039; characters. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 18:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|If Japanese names affected article titles, then [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] would be at Megazarak (Universe) and [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] at Roadbuster (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
|My reason to propose moving this article back to [[Brave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|Except that the Car Robot characters are an unique situation.&lt;br /&gt;
|Interrobang&#039;s reason for removing the move template from the article}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Really though, what does the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing mean? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 12:22, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;ll try. I&#039;m sure someone else will correct any misunderstandings I may have. Car Robots and Robots in Disguise are each based around the same animation, however CR is a G1 continuity family franchise and RID is an RID continuity family franchise. Thus, they actually feature separate characters that are nonetheless covered on the same pages as each other because it is silly to duplicate the pages entirely except for names and categories. Therefore, redirects for the RID names have been created and are taken into account when assigning names to other articles. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:31, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s really a bit unusual in that we largely ignore the Japanese version.  We document the English dub and then simply make notes about the differences in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly this is because Japan&#039;s treatment of CR was so weird.  It considers CR and RiD to be the same continuity.  They &#039;&#039;&#039;retroactively&#039;&#039;&#039; shoved CR into occurring int he G1 timeline in the year 2000 because they heard that the american dub featured references to the G1 cartoon in its past.  (Which is true, R.I.D. seems to have something very similar to the G1 cartoon in its backstory.  But not identical.)&lt;br /&gt;
::This creates all sorts of maddening problems, not the least of which that Fire Convoy is a &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; character from Optimus Prime in Japan -- they could have met face to face and shaken hands -- but he&#039;s Optimus Prime in America.  Yet Japan still insists they are the same character.&lt;br /&gt;
::All we can do it throw up our hands, say &amp;quot;this doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense&amp;quot; and roll with it, while not bending over backwards to accomodate that stupidity any more than Hasbro&#039;s &amp;quot;Prime isn&#039;t part of the Multiverse&amp;quot; declaration.&lt;br /&gt;
::If the distinction ever come up in fiction we&#039;ll probably have to change everything, but the continuity is almost toxically complicated-- tied into the events of Kiss Players Positron and Takara&#039;s batshit attempts to shove everything into the G1 cartoon timeline before finally giving up and admitting there was more than one TF universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:36, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of game? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The article states that The Saint Of The Braves: Baan Gaan was cancelled and &amp;quot;later made into a game&amp;quot;; is that a board game, a card game, a video game or what? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:02, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:According to the Brave page on Wikipedia (unsourced, of course) a video game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:13, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m positive that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluAT_xtR0A/ it is a videogame]. --[[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 11:02, 3 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should we change &amp;quot;Obari pose&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Brave perspective&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This questions is for those far more familiar with the &#039;&#039;Brave&#039;&#039; franchise. The wiki uses the &amp;quot;angle of sword larger than the wielder&amp;quot; pose as the &amp;quot;Obari pose.&amp;quot; BUT, [https://twitter.com/Des_Shinta/status/1834181155584700775 this person on Twitter] pointing out that the actual snap-down should be more credited to Mitsuo Fukuda, which had me rabbit-holing around [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brave-perspective Know Your Meme], leading to this &amp;quot;[https://togetter.com/li/94518 interview]&amp;quot; citing the account [https://twitter.com/T_Katuragi T_Katuragi/すなつぶ] and [https://twitter.com/fukuda320 Fukuda] himself. The only Brave title I&#039;m most familiar with was GaoGaiGar, so I&#039;ll let the Brave fans have the stage. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 12:49, 14 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brave_(franchise)&amp;diff=1797148</id>
		<title>Talk:Brave (franchise)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brave_(franchise)&amp;diff=1797148"/>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Welltowiki: /* whats with the brave wiki link */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Images==&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some pictures of the various TF model re-uses in Brave. A bunch of these came from a friend scanning from his Sunrise robot book, but I don&#039;t remember the name of the book now... will have to ask. Shadowmaru and Kagerou are my scans, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dagbase.jpg Dagbase]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dynoguystooooo01b.jpg Dino Geist and the Geisters]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/atlasbomber01b.jpg Goryu and Hiryu]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Kagerou01b.jpg Kagerou]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/redgeist.jpg Red Geist]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Shadowmaru01a.jpg Shadowmaru]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/gsbuddies01b.jpg Thunder Dagwon and friends]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/scorp01b.jpg Zazorigan and Death Garrygun]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure how many we should incorporate - open to suggestions. I don&#039;t think I ever asked him for Death Garrygun scans, but I own the toy anyway... oh, actually, I think Jhiaxus owns both Sky Garry and Death Garrygun now, so maybe a side-by-side toy pic would also be good. EDIT: Oh, wait, Death Garrygun is in the Zazorigan picture, oops. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion, I think it is good to put some comparison pictures which have a TF and a Brave &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[:Image:Dvd broadcast.jpg|example]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;in the article. :) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;BTW, I&#039;m not a sharp person, so I didn&#039;t notice &#039;til saw the url of the link you provided. I found out that you are one of the owner of the &amp;quot;Obscure Transformers Website&amp;quot;. In fact, I&#039;ve be the fan and the visitor of your site since I was still a student! ;D&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 01:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;ve got a good handful of Brave websites bookmarked if pics of those guys are needed. We&#039;d just have to decide which characters to use, and to find a close-matching image of the TF to go along. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: In my opinion, I think those re-use design could be divided into 4 categories &lt;br /&gt;
:* Extremely obvious: Red Geist, Goryu and Hiryu, Dag Base, Zazorigan and Death Garrygun&lt;br /&gt;
:* Obvious: Armor Geist, Horn Geist&lt;br /&gt;
:* Okay: Ptera Geist, Shadowmaru&lt;br /&gt;
:* Not so obvious: Thunder Dagwon, Kagerou, Thunder Geist&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; Comparing standard is according to the design use in animation instead of toy, that&#039;s why Shadowmaru is in the &amp;quot;Okay Category&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Extremely obvious&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Obvious&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
Might be a good idea to list all the toys and designs that got used in various BRave series. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t Sazori Gan/Zazorigun a non-toy character? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Non-toy. Although I&#039;ve seen a custom one on a Brave toy image site once so maybe the other editor wasn&#039;t aware. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rewrite explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I originally copied most of this article from Wikipedia; however Walky later explained to me that that isn&#039;t an acceptable practice here, and therefore I have since voluntarily rewritten it. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese websites ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve got a few Brave websites (focusing mainly on the toys) bookmarked, would it be worth it to add one or two to the external links? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Micromaster Station from Brave Police ==&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone known the names of those Micromaster Station called in Brave Police? Um, I only find one called &amp;quot;[http://tfbaka.de-blog.jp/1dai/2008/01/post_51d7.html Crime scene from the construction site]&amp;quot; (Repaint [[Ironworks (Micromaster)|Ironworks]]). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;It seems difficult to find but I&#039;m still trying. :)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know ^^;  Sorry!  Also, do you know if they were ever in the anime?  I haven&#039;t seen that much of Brave Police, so I dont know.  If they were not in the anime, it would be good to put a note in about that. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:58, 2008 February 28 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: As far as I know, the repaint Micromaster Stations are toy-only products, in other words, they didn&#039;t show up in anime. :)By the way, you really did good job in adding new information for this article. ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Thank you! :) --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 16:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but could someone please explain to me (or at least include an explanation) of what &amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot; refers to? The link just redirects to Hot Rod Toys, but nothing specific. Do you mean the Battlestars micromaster version? Forgive my ignorance, but I imagine there will be plenty of other folks who won&#039;t know what this is referring to either.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 00:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
:The link &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be redirecting you to the Hot Rod toys page&#039;s Trivia section, which includes a good chunk of paragraph on what New Rodimus was going to be. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; new Rodimus. The Powermastery concept-only Rodimus. Gotcha.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Detour. Can someone please fix the link (I don&#039;t know how)?[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 12:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, considering this is a Transformers wiki and not a Brave wiki, should this article really be that expansive? Shouldn&#039;t it just stick to the relationship Brave has with Transformers, and basic overall information, and call it a day? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; also all copied directly from Wikipedia. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No surprise there. It&#039;s the same editor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unique situation ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please explain the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing with the &#039;&#039;Car Robots&#039;&#039; characters. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 18:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|If Japanese names affected article titles, then [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] would be at Megazarak (Universe) and [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] at Roadbuster (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
|My reason to propose moving this article back to [[Brave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|Except that the Car Robot characters are an unique situation.&lt;br /&gt;
|Interrobang&#039;s reason for removing the move template from the article}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Really though, what does the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing mean? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 12:22, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;ll try. I&#039;m sure someone else will correct any misunderstandings I may have. Car Robots and Robots in Disguise are each based around the same animation, however CR is a G1 continuity family franchise and RID is an RID continuity family franchise. Thus, they actually feature separate characters that are nonetheless covered on the same pages as each other because it is silly to duplicate the pages entirely except for names and categories. Therefore, redirects for the RID names have been created and are taken into account when assigning names to other articles. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:31, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s really a bit unusual in that we largely ignore the Japanese version.  We document the English dub and then simply make notes about the differences in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly this is because Japan&#039;s treatment of CR was so weird.  It considers CR and RiD to be the same continuity.  They &#039;&#039;&#039;retroactively&#039;&#039;&#039; shoved CR into occurring int he G1 timeline in the year 2000 because they heard that the american dub featured references to the G1 cartoon in its past.  (Which is true, R.I.D. seems to have something very similar to the G1 cartoon in its backstory.  But not identical.)&lt;br /&gt;
::This creates all sorts of maddening problems, not the least of which that Fire Convoy is a &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; character from Optimus Prime in Japan -- they could have met face to face and shaken hands -- but he&#039;s Optimus Prime in America.  Yet Japan still insists they are the same character.&lt;br /&gt;
::All we can do it throw up our hands, say &amp;quot;this doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense&amp;quot; and roll with it, while not bending over backwards to accomodate that stupidity any more than Hasbro&#039;s &amp;quot;Prime isn&#039;t part of the Multiverse&amp;quot; declaration.&lt;br /&gt;
::If the distinction ever come up in fiction we&#039;ll probably have to change everything, but the continuity is almost toxically complicated-- tied into the events of Kiss Players Positron and Takara&#039;s batshit attempts to shove everything into the G1 cartoon timeline before finally giving up and admitting there was more than one TF universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:36, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What kind of game? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The article states that The Saint Of The Braves: Baan Gaan was cancelled and &amp;quot;later made into a game&amp;quot;; is that a board game, a card game, a video game or what? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:02, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:According to the Brave page on Wikipedia (unsourced, of course) a video game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:13, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m positive that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluAT_xtR0A/ it is a videogame]. --[[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 11:02, 3 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Should we change &amp;quot;Obari pose&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Brave perspective&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This questions is for those far more familiar with the &#039;&#039;Brave&#039;&#039; franchise. The wiki uses the &amp;quot;angle of sword larger than the wielder&amp;quot; pose as the &amp;quot;Obari pose.&amp;quot; BUT, [https://twitter.com/Des_Shinta/status/1834181155584700775 this person on Twitter] pointing out that the actual snap-down should be more credited to Mitsuo Fukuda, which had me rabbit-holing around [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brave-perspective Know Your Meme], leading to this &amp;quot;[https://togetter.com/li/94518 interview]&amp;quot; citing the account [https://twitter.com/T_Katuragi T_Katuragi/すなつぶ] and [https://twitter.com/fukuda320 Fukuda] himself. The only Brave title I&#039;m most familiar with was GaoGaiGar, so I&#039;ll let the Brave fans have the stage. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 12:49, 14 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 whats with the brave wiki link &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m wondering what&#039;s with this link as it says when i go to the page, &amp;quot;their is currently no text on this page&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
and when i went to create an account. it says the wiki has been locked&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Welltowiki|Welltowiki]] ([[User talk:Welltowiki|talk]]) 11:38, 10 November 2024 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brave_(franchise)&amp;diff=1797147</id>
		<title>Talk:Brave (franchise)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brave_(franchise)&amp;diff=1797147"/>
		<updated>2024-11-10T16:37:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Welltowiki: /* whats with the brave wiki link */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Images==&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some pictures of the various TF model re-uses in Brave. A bunch of these came from a friend scanning from his Sunrise robot book, but I don&#039;t remember the name of the book now... will have to ask. Shadowmaru and Kagerou are my scans, though.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dagbase.jpg Dagbase]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/dynoguystooooo01b.jpg Dino Geist and the Geisters]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/atlasbomber01b.jpg Goryu and Hiryu]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Kagerou01b.jpg Kagerou]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/redgeist.jpg Red Geist]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/J-Decker_Shadowmaru01a.jpg Shadowmaru]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/gsbuddies01b.jpg Thunder Dagwon and friends]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/yuusha/scorp01b.jpg Zazorigan and Death Garrygun]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure how many we should incorporate - open to suggestions. I don&#039;t think I ever asked him for Death Garrygun scans, but I own the toy anyway... oh, actually, I think Jhiaxus owns both Sky Garry and Death Garrygun now, so maybe a side-by-side toy pic would also be good. EDIT: Oh, wait, Death Garrygun is in the Zazorigan picture, oops. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion, I think it is good to put some comparison pictures which have a TF and a Brave &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[:Image:Dvd broadcast.jpg|example]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;in the article. :) &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;BTW, I&#039;m not a sharp person, so I didn&#039;t notice &#039;til saw the url of the link you provided. I found out that you are one of the owner of the &amp;quot;Obscure Transformers Website&amp;quot;. In fact, I&#039;ve be the fan and the visitor of your site since I was still a student! ;D&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 01:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ve got a good handful of Brave websites bookmarked if pics of those guys are needed. We&#039;d just have to decide which characters to use, and to find a close-matching image of the TF to go along. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: In my opinion, I think those re-use design could be divided into 4 categories &lt;br /&gt;
:* Extremely obvious: Red Geist, Goryu and Hiryu, Dag Base, Zazorigan and Death Garrygun&lt;br /&gt;
:* Obvious: Armor Geist, Horn Geist&lt;br /&gt;
:* Okay: Ptera Geist, Shadowmaru&lt;br /&gt;
:* Not so obvious: Thunder Dagwon, Kagerou, Thunder Geist&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; Comparing standard is according to the design use in animation instead of toy, that&#039;s why Shadowmaru is in the &amp;quot;Okay Category&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Extremely obvious&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Obvious&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:59, 12 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
Might be a good idea to list all the toys and designs that got used in various BRave series. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Isn&#039;t Sazori Gan/Zazorigun a non-toy character? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Non-toy. Although I&#039;ve seen a custom one on a Brave toy image site once so maybe the other editor wasn&#039;t aware. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Rewrite explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I originally copied most of this article from Wikipedia; however Walky later explained to me that that isn&#039;t an acceptable practice here, and therefore I have since voluntarily rewritten it. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 22:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Japanese websites ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve got a few Brave websites (focusing mainly on the toys) bookmarked, would it be worth it to add one or two to the external links? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Micromaster Station from Brave Police ==&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone known the names of those Micromaster Station called in Brave Police? Um, I only find one called &amp;quot;[http://tfbaka.de-blog.jp/1dai/2008/01/post_51d7.html Crime scene from the construction site]&amp;quot; (Repaint [[Ironworks (Micromaster)|Ironworks]]). &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;It seems difficult to find but I&#039;m still trying. :)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know ^^;  Sorry!  Also, do you know if they were ever in the anime?  I haven&#039;t seen that much of Brave Police, so I dont know.  If they were not in the anime, it would be good to put a note in about that. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:58, 2008 February 28 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: As far as I know, the repaint Micromaster Stations are toy-only products, in other words, they didn&#039;t show up in anime. :)By the way, you really did good job in adding new information for this article. ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Thank you! :) --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 16:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot;?==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, but could someone please explain to me (or at least include an explanation) of what &amp;quot;New Rodimus&amp;quot; refers to? The link just redirects to Hot Rod Toys, but nothing specific. Do you mean the Battlestars micromaster version? Forgive my ignorance, but I imagine there will be plenty of other folks who won&#039;t know what this is referring to either.&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 00:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
:The link &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be redirecting you to the Hot Rod toys page&#039;s Trivia section, which includes a good chunk of paragraph on what New Rodimus was going to be. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; new Rodimus. The Powermastery concept-only Rodimus. Gotcha.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Detour. Can someone please fix the link (I don&#039;t know how)?[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 12:20, 4 May 2008 (UTC).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, considering this is a Transformers wiki and not a Brave wiki, should this article really be that expansive? Shouldn&#039;t it just stick to the relationship Brave has with Transformers, and basic overall information, and call it a day? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; also all copied directly from Wikipedia. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::No surprise there. It&#039;s the same editor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unique situation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please explain the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing with the &#039;&#039;Car Robots&#039;&#039; characters. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 18:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|My reason to propose moving this article back to [[Brave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|Except that the Car Robot characters are an unique situation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Really though, what does the &amp;quot;unique situation&amp;quot; thing mean? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 12:22, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, I&#039;ll try. I&#039;m sure someone else will correct any misunderstandings I may have. Car Robots and Robots in Disguise are each based around the same animation, however CR is a G1 continuity family franchise and RID is an RID continuity family franchise. Thus, they actually feature separate characters that are nonetheless covered on the same pages as each other because it is silly to duplicate the pages entirely except for names and categories. Therefore, redirects for the RID names have been created and are taken into account when assigning names to other articles. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:31, 31 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s really a bit unusual in that we largely ignore the Japanese version.  We document the English dub and then simply make notes about the differences in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
::Partly this is because Japan&#039;s treatment of CR was so weird.  It considers CR and RiD to be the same continuity.  They &#039;&#039;&#039;retroactively&#039;&#039;&#039; shoved CR into occurring int he G1 timeline in the year 2000 because they heard that the american dub featured references to the G1 cartoon in its past.  (Which is true, R.I.D. seems to have something very similar to the G1 cartoon in its backstory.  But not identical.)&lt;br /&gt;
::This creates all sorts of maddening problems, not the least of which that Fire Convoy is a &#039;&#039;separate&#039;&#039; character from Optimus Prime in Japan -- they could have met face to face and shaken hands -- but he&#039;s Optimus Prime in America.  Yet Japan still insists they are the same character.&lt;br /&gt;
::All we can do it throw up our hands, say &amp;quot;this doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense&amp;quot; and roll with it, while not bending over backwards to accomodate that stupidity any more than Hasbro&#039;s &amp;quot;Prime isn&#039;t part of the Multiverse&amp;quot; declaration.&lt;br /&gt;
::If the distinction ever come up in fiction we&#039;ll probably have to change everything, but the continuity is almost toxically complicated-- tied into the events of Kiss Players Positron and Takara&#039;s batshit attempts to shove everything into the G1 cartoon timeline before finally giving up and admitting there was more than one TF universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:36, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What kind of game? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article states that The Saint Of The Braves: Baan Gaan was cancelled and &amp;quot;later made into a game&amp;quot;; is that a board game, a card game, a video game or what? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:02, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:According to the Brave page on Wikipedia (unsourced, of course) a video game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:13, 17 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m positive that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wluAT_xtR0A/ it is a videogame]. --[[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 11:02, 3 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should we change &amp;quot;Obari pose&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Brave perspective&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This questions is for those far more familiar with the &#039;&#039;Brave&#039;&#039; franchise. The wiki uses the &amp;quot;angle of sword larger than the wielder&amp;quot; pose as the &amp;quot;Obari pose.&amp;quot; BUT, [https://twitter.com/Des_Shinta/status/1834181155584700775 this person on Twitter] pointing out that the actual snap-down should be more credited to Mitsuo Fukuda, which had me rabbit-holing around [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/brave-perspective Know Your Meme], leading to this &amp;quot;[https://togetter.com/li/94518 interview]&amp;quot; citing the account [https://twitter.com/T_Katuragi T_Katuragi/すなつぶ] and [https://twitter.com/fukuda320 Fukuda] himself. The only Brave title I&#039;m most familiar with was GaoGaiGar, so I&#039;ll let the Brave fans have the stage. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 12:49, 14 September 2024 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== whats with the brave wiki link ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m wondering what&#039;s with this link as it says when i go to the page, &amp;quot;their is currently no text on this page&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
and when i went to create an account. it says the wiki has been looked&lt;br /&gt;
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