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Transformers (2023) issue 16

2025-01-08T15:00:21Z

Wing Saber: /* Transformers references */

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|publisher=[[Image Comics]]<br>[[Skybound Entertainment]]
|date=[[January 8]], [[2025]]
|coverdate=January 2025
|written by=[[Daniel Warren Johnson]]
|art by=[[Jorge Corona]]
|colors by=[[Sarah Stern]]
|letters by=[[Rus Wooton]]
|editor=[[Ben Abernathy]]
|production design=[[Andres Juarez]]
|production=[[Ashby Florence]]
|continuity=[[Energon Universe]]
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'''The Autobots are caught in the crossfire of a Decepticon civil war, and the only hope to end it may be the return of an even greater evil.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:TF2023 no. 16 - BruticusVsDevastator.jpg|left|250px|thumb]]
Despite her reservations, [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] leads [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] across the war-torn wastes of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to what was once the home of Cliffjumper's [[clan]], long forgotten by the [[Decepticon]]s ever since they destroyed it in a bombing campaign. Cliffjumper digs through the rubble to find a [[spark canister]] he had hidden away; though there isn't enough remaining to bring back any of his friends, he says there's the possibility it can be used to create something new.

On [[Earth]], [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] orders the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s to merge into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] to combat [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. As [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], Soundwave, and their respective troops clash, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] are caught in the middle of the carnage. [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] tries to reason with Starscream, but the one-time Decepticon leader is too obsessed with revenge and reveals the truth of what he and Soundwave did to [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. As Starscream rants about the universe being made only for the strong, Thundercracker uses the [[H.I.S.S. tank]] remote control to steer Starscream's body off a ledge. The blue [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] then transforms and flies away, abandoning Soundwave to the fury of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. Optimus decides the [[Autobot]]s must intervene, fearing that the Decepticons’ senseless violence could damage the dam and endanger the humans. However, he is again overcome with visions and rage, firing his [[fusion cannon]] straight at the dam. Water bursts through the structure and sweeps away all the [[Transformer]]s. As the water rushes through the woods, Optimus spots two children on bikes fleeing from the waves. He tries to save them but is unable to reach them. Luckily, they are saved by the timely arrival of [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], who uses his force field to protect the “strange little creatures,” who managed to survive nearly being crushed by the combiners.

Back on Cybertron, the Autobots return to their makeshift headquarters and Elita explains to Cliffjumper that they’ve been unable to communicate with any other Autobot resistances and that they could be the only ones left. Elita asks Cliff what he plans to do with the sparks in the canister, and he reveals his plan to take them to the [[Well of All Sparks|Well of Sparks]]. Elita reveals that the Well is deep in Decepticon-controlled territory, but Cliff insists that they need a new warrior to help them, something Bluestreak echoes. And afterward, Cliff will return to Earth. To [[Carly (G1)|Carly]].

Meanwhile, Carly and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] set off on their search for [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] with [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]. Elsewhere, in some desert, [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] finds that which he was sent to find: [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], sitting in a cave, wounded and blinded. Megatron thanks Laserbeak as he grabs the bird, pulls out some of his cables and connects them to his eyes; he orders Laserbeak to act as his eyes and guide him to the Decepticons.

==Featured characters==
Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks.<br>
{{Featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (1)
* [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] (2)
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (3)
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (13)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (14)
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (15)
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (21)
* [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (22)
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (25)
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (26)

|c2=
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (4)
* [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (5)
* [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] (6)
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (7)
* [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (8)
* [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (9)
* [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (10)
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (11)
* [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (12)
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (16)
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (19)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (20)
* ''[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]'' (23)
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (27)
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (28)

||c3=
* Kevin (17)
* Kevin's friend (18)
* [[Carly (G1)|Carly]] (24)
* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (26)
}}

==Quotes==
"'''PREPARE FOR DEVASTATION BRUTICUS!!!'''"
:—'''Devastator'''

"Starscream! How do you still function?!"<br>
"Sniveling '''fool'''! You cannot kill what is unkillable!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Soundwave''' meet again

"Wake up from you naivete, Thundercracker!!! The universe is only for the strong!!! [[Turborat]] eat turborat! Spark versus spark! '''Metal on metal!'''"
:—'''Starscream'''

"And when you get what you want? You just take off back to Earth? To Optimus?"<br>
"No. To Carly"
:—'''Elita One''' and '''Cliffjumper'''
==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* We first learned about the destruction of Cliffjumper's clan in [[Transformers (2023) issue 4|issue #4]].
* Thundercracker initially believed the Autobots to be responsible for what became of Skywarp when he was revived in [[Transformers (2023) issue 5|issue #5]], but now knows that it was Starscream and Soundwave that used the Seeker to rebuild [[Teletraan I]].
* This is the first time Astrotrain has used his steam train mode
* It was unknown why Astrotrain was locked away aboard the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' other than his rage against Megatron when we first saw him back in [[Transformers (2023) issue 8|issue #8]]. Here, we learn that Megatron was responsible for "ending his love."
* Optimus Prime has been experiencing strange visions ever since [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparky]] entered the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Transformers (2023) issue 6|issue #6]]. However, these visions have been growing more and more corrupted, along with Optimus' eyes turning purple with rage, since [[Transformers (2023) issue 12|issue #12]].
* MEGATRON RETURNS! The Decepticon leader was last seen in the series proper to be frozen in a block of ice in issue #4, though readers of ''[[Cobra Commander (comic)|Cobra Commander]]'' know that he was taken by the denizens of [[Cobra-La]] to be studied. He escaped from [[Cobra-La]] in [[Transformers Energon Universe Special story|the Transformers segment]] of the ''[[Energon Universe 2024 Special]]'', though losing his (remaining) eye to [[Golobulus]] in the process.

===''Transformers'' references===
* Thundercracker’s decision to abandon the Decepticons fits in with earlier portrayals of him, calling to mind both his original toy file card and his appearances in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].
* Trailbreaker's ability to generate force fields calls back to his original G1 bio.
* The Well of Sparks, more commonly known as the “Well of All Sparks” is a longtime piece of Transformers mythology, first appearing in the [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity]] in ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages]]'' [[Conflagration|#6]].
* Starscream tells Soundwave that "you cannot kill what is unkillable." Being unkillable is a notable trait of many iterations of Starscream.

===Covers===
* '''Cover A:''' Bruticus vs Devastator, by Daniel Warren Johnson and Mike Spicer.
* '''Cover B:''' Bruticus emerges from a smoking forest, by [[Jorge Corona]] and Mike Spicer.
* '''Cover C:''' Connecting cover by [[Karl Kerschl]].
* '''Cover D:''' Soundwave vs Starscream, by [[Manabu Yashiro]].
* '''Cover E:''' Laserbeak perches on Megatron’s arm, by [[Homare]].

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===Reprints===
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File:Transformers 2023 V3.jpg|'''''Volume 3: Combiner Chaos''''' – cover art by Daniel Warren Johnson and Mike Spicer
</gallery>

==External links==

==References==
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[[Category:Transformers (2023) issues]]

Shattered Glass II issue 5

2024-02-28T18:08:02Z

Wing Saber: /* Continuity notes */

{{Comicstory
|seriesissue=''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass II]]'' #5
|prev=Shattered Glass II issue 4
|next=
|caption=It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you had the time of your life.
|image=IDWSGII 5 cvrA.jpg
|title=
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[December 14]], 2022
|coverdate=December 2022
|written by=[[Danny Lore]]
|art by=[[Guido Guidi]]
|inks=[[Matt Froese]]
|colors=[[John-Paul Bove]]
|letters by=[[Jake M. Wood]]
|editor=[[David Mariotte]] and [[Riley Farmer]]
}}

'''In the belly of the beast, Soundwave and an unexpected ally confront Ultra Magnus in final battle.'''

==Synopsis==
It's all-out war as [[Metroplex (SG)|Metroplex]] joins the battle between evil Autobots and heroic Decepticons! [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] tries to carry his wounded leader [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] to safety, even as the Decepticon leader orders his lieutenant to ignore him and stop [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]]. As he works to patch up Megatron's injuries, the Decepticon leader explains that Magnus has already captured [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] and recruited [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] to oversee a procedure that will allow him to take Prime's place. Soundwave's worried--not just by the idea of an emboldened Magnus commanding Metroplex, his own [[Wreckers]], ''and'' those Optimus Prime loyalists who won't see through the deception, but also what his enhanced senses tell him: Metroplex isn't roaring in rage, he's screaming in agony... and, beneath that, he can hear [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]'s voice.

As he moves forward, Soundwave spies [[Wheeljack (SG)|Slicer]], half-crushed beneath one of Metroplex's digits--after he first knocks the overconfident [[Springer (SG)|Springer]] unconscious as the Wrecker tries to catch him off-guard, the compassionate Soundwave successfully frees the trapped Autobot... who promptly pulls his blaster on the would-be rescuer. Despite the imminent threat, however, Soundwave's telepathy picks up a jangled mess of conflicting emotions; as he tries to talk down Slicer, he lets slip that Megatron knows about Magnus's ultimate plan, and exactly ''why'' it is they can't control Metroplex. At that moment, however, a recovered Springer makes a second pass on the Decepticon... only for Slicer to unload his gun in Springer's face! Listening to Soundwave's transmissions through [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]]'s jury-rigged head has given the amoral engineer an odd fondness for the 'bot he'd normally see as an enemy... and, grimly, Slicer decides to join Soundwave on his quest to take down Ultra Magnus once and for all.

Together, the two scale the Titan's hull and make their way up to a convenient ledge, where Soundwave uses his voice-disguising powers to briefly mislead [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] and [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] before he can non-lethally incapacitate the pair, brushing off the wounded Slicer's repeated offers to assist. The unlikely allies make their way through Metroplex's empty hallways as they discuss their possible next moves, before Soundwave makes a ghoulish discovery--Ultra Magnus's severed leg! Slicer wonders if Metroplex's erratic movements might've complicated the surgery, but the two soon discover the ''rest'' of Ultra Magnus nearby... a mangled shell, using a disabled voice box to scream silently. As the two soon discover, however, that body now belongs to Optimus Prime: the ''real'' Ultra Magnus has come out the other side wearing Optimus Prime's stolen body!

Soundwave puts up a cool façade, hoping to keep his captors off-balance--indeed, his jibes quickly start to overwhelm the already-erratic Magnus as the Wrecker leader adjusts to his new body's motor functions. Fortunately for the pair, Magnus doesn't realize that Slicer's changed sides--when he orders his ex-underling to execute Soundwave, Soundwave has just enough time to read Slicer's mind and learns that he plans to take out the Wreckers, grab Ratchet, and run. Worse yet, Metroplex and Starscream's mind patterns are growing closer and closer: if they merge, then Starscream is gone for good. At that moment, however, Metroplex rears backwards, and the sudden shift buries Magnus in debris and gives Slicer and Soundwave the opening they need to make their move.

In the ensuing chaos, Soundwave takes out [[Tailgate (SG)|Tailgate]] and [[Drift (SG)|Drift]], and Ratchet winds up taking a shot from [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] intended for Slicer--and, amidst the chaos, Soundwave breaks his own oath and kills both Drift and Rodimus. After freeing [[Jetfire (SG)|Jetfire]], Soundwave informs him that Starscream needs him; the pair arrive at Metroplex's [[spark]] chamber in time to sever the connection, incapacitating Metroplex and allowing Jetfire to scoop up Starscream's disembodied spark. Without his power source, the [[Titan (group)|Titan]] promptly topples to the ground as Jetfire escapes through one cracked eye, leaving Soundwave to face an enraged Magnus alone in the head of the falling Titan. The enraged Autobot, attacks... only for Soundwave to scan his thoughts and correctly deduce that this whole mad scheme stemmed from Magnus's own self-confidence issues: he had to steal Optimus's body because he didn't think he could lead the Autobots as himself. Before the berserk Autobot can kill Soundwave, however, a shot from below nails Magnus in the chest! Magnus plummets out of Metroplex's shattered eye... and Soundwave glimpses at the ground below, where he sees Slicer and Ratchet--by saving him, they've repaid their debt.

As the Titan plummets, [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] swoops in to rescue his master as the rest of the Decepticons crowd in to congratulate Soundwave on saving the day. Elsewhere, Jetfire retreats to the [[Static Zone]] with Starscream's spark, while Slicer and an injured Ratchet recuperate in a nearby cavern. Optimus Prime, [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]], and Ultra Magnus might be gone, but there are still [[Prowl (SG)|others]] out there who would do harm... and as long as Soundwave and the other Decepticons still stand, they'll never stop fighting for what's right!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Decepticon]]s|c1=
* [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] (1)
* [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]] (2)
* [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] (4)
* [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] (5)
* [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]] (6)
* [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] (7)
* [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] (20)
* [[Flamewar (SG)|Flamewar]] (21)
* [[Slipstream (SG)|Slipstream]] (22)
* [[Hotlink (SG)|Hotlink]] (23)

|h2=[[Autobot]]s|c2=
* [[Cosmos (SG)|Cosmos]] (8)
* [[Springer (SG)|Springer]] (9)
* [[Wheeljack (SG)|Slicer]] (10)
* [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] (11)
* [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] (12)
* [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] (13)
* [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] (14)
* [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]] (15)
* [[Drift (SG)|Drift]] (17)
* [[Tailgate (SG)|Tailgate]] (18)
* [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] (19)
* [[Prowl (SG)|Prowl]] (24)

|c4=
* [[Metroplex (SG)|Metroplex]] (3)
* [[Jetfire (SG)|Jetfire]] (16)

}}

==Quotes==
"So you've listened to my voice through... Blaster's head? I'm stuck in your head like a '''hit song'''. I'd like to think that means '''something'''." <br>
"Then let's go '''kill my boss''', Mister DJ." <br>
"That simple?" <br>
"Yup."
:—'''Soundwave''' and '''Slicer'''

"I '''would''' have expected one of Megatron's spies. Or assassins. Not his... grief counsellor? Music bot? What do you fancy yourself these days, '''Soundwave'''?"
:—'''Ultra Magnus'''

"I will do what '''Optimus''' was too '''arrogant''' to do! I will crush every Decepticon spark myself! I will guarantee the end--" <br>
"Save it for someone who can't read your mind and know the truth--you had to steal '''Optimus' skin''' because you were too scared to openly lead '''without''' it."
:—'''Ultra Magnus''' versus '''Soundwave'''

"'''Slicer''' wasn't supposed to save me. And I get the feeling he'll never let me thank him for it either."
:—'''Soundwave'''

"I went into battle because there's life on the other side of the war for all of us if we are brave enough to face it. If we are determined to live '''with ourselves''' and what we've '''become'''. It may get '''worse''' before it gets '''better'''. But I will never stop believing '''peace''' is '''worth it'''. Because Cybertron is worth fighting for."
:—'''Soundwave''' says that's all, folks

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* Slicer's revealed to have survived his impromptu defenestration at the hands of [[Flamewar (SG)|Flamewar]], which occurred in [[Shattered Glass II issue 4|the previous issue]].
* Ultra Magnus sardonically calls Soundwave "Megatron's grief counsellor"; as established in [[Shattered Glass issue 3|issue #3]] of IDW's first ''Shattered Glass'' miniseries, Soundwave ran an underground radio station that allowed him to reach out to any Decepticon stragglers in distress.

===Transformers references===
* The concept of Starscream's consciousness somehow persisting after death ties this story back to the long-standing concept of Starscream surviving as a "ghost", as popularized by the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' episode "[[Starscream's Ghost]]".
* Ultra Magnus's ultimate scheme involves him switching bodies with Optimus Prime; after the switch takes place, Magnus's new body is colored blue in reference to the inner robot that came with his [[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|2022 ''Generations'' toy]]. However, in the comic, his new body is very clearly based on the ''Earthrise'' Optimus Prime mold that formed the basis for ''Generations Selects Shattered Glass'' Optimus, and makes no attempt to integrate any features from Ultra Magnus's own toy.
* Wheeljack switching sides from an Autobot to a Decepticon may be a reference to [[Wheeljack (Armada)]]

===Errors===
* There’s no real in-fiction explanation given as to why Magnus-in-Optimus’s-body turns blue, beyond the need to advertise his ''Generations'' play feature—the same thing doesn’t happen to Optimus-in-Magnus’s-body, and it would seemingly run counter to the idea of him needing to wear Prime’s skin to feel confident.

===Other trivia===
* While individuals who ordered Soundwave from [[Hasbro Pulse]] received this issue more than a month in advance, its mass-market release in December 2022 marks the very last issue of the final ''Transformers'' miniseries ever published by [[IDW Publishing]] after an astonishing seventeen-year run. Truly, they were... an IDW Publishing's ''The Transformers''.

===Covers (4)===
* '''Cover A:''' Soundwave and Starscream’s ghost, by [[Andrew Griffith]]
* '''Cover B:''' Soundwave, by [[L. Kershaw]]
* '''Retailer incentive cover:''' Graffiti-style art of Soundwave and his cassettes, by [[Mark Maher]] and [[Reggie Graham]]
* '''Hasbro Pulse exclusive cover:''' Soundwave leaps into action, by [[Casey Coller]]

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==External links==
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Shattered Glass II issue 5

2024-02-22T21:23:31Z

Wing Saber: /* Transformers references */

{{Comicstory
|seriesissue=''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass II]]'' #5
|prev=Shattered Glass II issue 4
|next=
|caption=It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope you had the time of your life.
|image=IDWSGII 5 cvrA.jpg
|title=
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[December 14]], 2022
|coverdate=December 2022
|written by=[[Danny Lore]]
|art by=[[Guido Guidi]]
|inks=[[Matt Froese]]
|colors=[[John-Paul Bove]]
|letters by=[[Jake M. Wood]]
|editor=[[David Mariotte]] and [[Riley Farmer]]
}}

'''In the belly of the beast, Soundwave and an unexpected ally confront Ultra Magnus in final battle.'''

==Synopsis==
It's all-out war as [[Metroplex (SG)|Metroplex]] joins the battle between evil Autobots and heroic Decepticons! [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] tries to carry his wounded leader [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] to safety, even as the Decepticon leader orders his lieutenant to ignore him and stop [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]]. As he works to patch up Megatron's injuries, the Decepticon leader explains that Magnus has already captured [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] and recruited [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] to oversee a procedure that will allow him to take Prime's place. Soundwave's worried--not just by the idea of an emboldened Magnus commanding Metroplex, his own [[Wreckers]], ''and'' those Optimus Prime loyalists who won't see through the deception, but also what his enhanced senses tell him: Metroplex isn't roaring in rage, he's screaming in agony... and, beneath that, he can hear [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]'s voice.

As he moves forward, Soundwave spies [[Wheeljack (SG)|Slicer]], half-crushed beneath one of Metroplex's digits--after he first knocks the overconfident [[Springer (SG)|Springer]] unconscious as the Wrecker tries to catch him off-guard, the compassionate Soundwave successfully frees the trapped Autobot... who promptly pulls his blaster on the would-be rescuer. Despite the imminent threat, however, Soundwave's telepathy picks up a jangled mess of conflicting emotions; as he tries to talk down Slicer, he lets slip that Megatron knows about Magnus's ultimate plan, and exactly ''why'' it is they can't control Metroplex. At that moment, however, a recovered Springer makes a second pass on the Decepticon... only for Slicer to unload his gun in Springer's face! Listening to Soundwave's transmissions through [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]]'s jury-rigged head has given the amoral engineer an odd fondness for the 'bot he'd normally see as an enemy... and, grimly, Slicer decides to join Soundwave on his quest to take down Ultra Magnus once and for all.

Together, the two scale the Titan's hull and make their way up to a convenient ledge, where Soundwave uses his voice-disguising powers to briefly mislead [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] and [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] before he can non-lethally incapacitate the pair, brushing off the wounded Slicer's repeated offers to assist. The unlikely allies make their way through Metroplex's empty hallways as they discuss their possible next moves, before Soundwave makes a ghoulish discovery--Ultra Magnus's severed leg! Slicer wonders if Metroplex's erratic movements might've complicated the surgery, but the two soon discover the ''rest'' of Ultra Magnus nearby... a mangled shell, using a disabled voice box to scream silently. As the two soon discover, however, that body now belongs to Optimus Prime: the ''real'' Ultra Magnus has come out the other side wearing Optimus Prime's stolen body!

Soundwave puts up a cool façade, hoping to keep his captors off-balance--indeed, his jibes quickly start to overwhelm the already-erratic Magnus as the Wrecker leader adjusts to his new body's motor functions. Fortunately for the pair, Magnus doesn't realize that Slicer's changed sides--when he orders his ex-underling to execute Soundwave, Soundwave has just enough time to read Slicer's mind and learns that he plans to take out the Wreckers, grab Ratchet, and run. Worse yet, Metroplex and Starscream's mind patterns are growing closer and closer: if they merge, then Starscream is gone for good. At that moment, however, Metroplex rears backwards, and the sudden shift buries Magnus in debris and gives Slicer and Soundwave the opening they need to make their move.

In the ensuing chaos, Soundwave takes out [[Tailgate (SG)|Tailgate]] and [[Drift (SG)|Drift]], and Ratchet winds up taking a shot from [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] intended for Slicer--and, amidst the chaos, Soundwave breaks his own oath and kills both Drift and Rodimus. After freeing [[Jetfire (SG)|Jetfire]], Soundwave informs him that Starscream needs him; the pair arrive at Metroplex's [[spark]] chamber in time to sever the connection, incapacitating Metroplex and allowing Jetfire to scoop up Starscream's disembodied spark. Without his power source, the [[Titan (group)|Titan]] promptly topples to the ground as Jetfire escapes through one cracked eye, leaving Soundwave to face an enraged Magnus alone in the head of the falling Titan. The enraged Autobot, attacks... only for Soundwave to scan his thoughts and correctly deduce that this whole mad scheme stemmed from Magnus's own self-confidence issues: he had to steal Optimus's body because he didn't think he could lead the Autobots as himself. Before the berserk Autobot can kill Soundwave, however, a shot from below nails Magnus in the chest! Magnus plummets out of Metroplex's shattered eye... and Soundwave glimpses at the ground below, where he sees Slicer and Ratchet--by saving him, they've repaid their debt.

As the Titan plummets, [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] swoops in to rescue his master as the rest of the Decepticons crowd in to congratulate Soundwave on saving the day. Elsewhere, Jetfire retreats to the [[Static Zone]] with Starscream's spark, while Slicer and an injured Ratchet recuperate in a nearby cavern. Optimus Prime, [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]], and Ultra Magnus might be gone, but there are still [[Prowl (SG)|others]] out there who would do harm... and as long as Soundwave and the other Decepticons still stand, they'll never stop fighting for what's right!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Decepticon]]s|c1=
* [[Laserbeak (SG)|Laserbeak]] (1)
* [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]] (2)
* [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] (4)
* [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] (5)
* [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]] (6)
* [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] (7)
* [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] (20)
* [[Flamewar (SG)|Flamewar]] (21)
* [[Slipstream (SG)|Slipstream]] (22)
* [[Hotlink (SG)|Hotlink]] (23)

|h2=[[Autobot]]s|c2=
* [[Cosmos (SG)|Cosmos]] (8)
* [[Springer (SG)|Springer]] (9)
* [[Wheeljack (SG)|Slicer]] (10)
* [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] (11)
* [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] (12)
* [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] (13)
* [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] (14)
* [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]] (15)
* [[Drift (SG)|Drift]] (17)
* [[Tailgate (SG)|Tailgate]] (18)
* [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] (19)
* [[Prowl (SG)|Prowl]] (24)

|c4=
* [[Metroplex (SG)|Metroplex]] (3)
* [[Jetfire (SG)|Jetfire]] (16)

}}

==Quotes==
"So you've listened to my voice through... Blaster's head? I'm stuck in your head like a '''hit song'''. I'd like to think that means '''something'''." <br>
"Then let's go '''kill my boss''', Mister DJ." <br>
"That simple?" <br>
"Yup."
:—'''Soundwave''' and '''Slicer'''

"I '''would''' have expected one of Megatron's spies. Or assassins. Not his... grief counsellor? Music bot? What do you fancy yourself these days, '''Soundwave'''?"
:—'''Ultra Magnus'''

"I will do what '''Optimus''' was too '''arrogant''' to do! I will crush every Decepticon spark myself! I will guarantee the end--" <br>
"Save it for someone who can't read your mind and know the truth--you had to steal '''Optimus' skin''' because you were too scared to openly lead '''without''' it."
:—'''Ultra Magnus''' versus '''Soundwave'''

"'''Slicer''' wasn't supposed to save me. And I get the feeling he'll never let me thank him for it either."
:—'''Soundwave'''

"I went into battle because there's life on the other side of the war for all of us if we are brave enough to face it. If we are determined to live '''with ourselves''' and what we've '''become'''. It may get '''worse''' before it gets '''better'''. But I will never stop believing '''peace''' is '''worth it'''. Because Cybertron is worth fighting for."
:—'''Soundwave''' says that's all, folks

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* Slicer's revealed to have survived his impromptu defenestration at the hands of [[Flamewar (SG)|Flamewar]], which occurred in [[Shattered Glass II issue 4|the previous issue]].
* Ultra Magnus sardonically calls Soundwave "Megatron's grief counsellor"; as established in [[Shattered Glass issue 3|issue #3]] of IDW's first ''Shattered Glass'' miniseries, Soundwave ran an underground radio station that allowed him to reach out to any Decepticon stragglers in distress.

[[Link title]]===Transformers references===
* The concept of Starscream's consciousness somehow persisting after death ties this story back to the long-standing concept of Starscream surviving as a "ghost", as popularized by the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' episode "[[Starscream's Ghost]]".
* Ultra Magnus's ultimate scheme involves him switching bodies with Optimus Prime; after the switch takes place, Magnus's new body is colored blue in reference to the inner robot that came with his [[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|2022 ''Generations'' toy]]. However, in the comic, his new body is very clearly based on the ''Earthrise'' Optimus Prime mold that formed the basis for ''Generations Selects Shattered Glass'' Optimus, and makes no attempt to integrate any features from Ultra Magnus's own toy.
* Wheeljack switching sides from an Autobot to a Decepticon may be a reference to [[Wheeljack (Armada)]]

===Errors===
* There’s no real in-fiction explanation given as to why Magnus-in-Optimus’s-body turns blue, beyond the need to advertise his ''Generations'' play feature—the same thing doesn’t happen to Optimus-in-Magnus’s-body, and it would seemingly run counter to the idea of him needing to wear Prime’s skin to feel confident.

===Other trivia===
* While individuals who ordered Soundwave from [[Hasbro Pulse]] received this issue more than a month in advance, its mass-market release in December 2022 marks the very last issue of the final ''Transformers'' miniseries ever published by [[IDW Publishing]] after an astonishing seventeen-year run. Truly, they were... an IDW Publishing's ''The Transformers''.

===Covers (4)===
* '''Cover A:''' Soundwave and Starscream’s ghost, by [[Andrew Griffith]]
* '''Cover B:''' Soundwave, by [[L. Kershaw]]
* '''Retailer incentive cover:''' Graffiti-style art of Soundwave and his cassettes, by [[Mark Maher]] and [[Reggie Graham]]
* '''Hasbro Pulse exclusive cover:''' Soundwave leaps into action, by [[Casey Coller]]

<gallery>
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IDWSGII 5 cvrRI.jpg
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</gallery>

===Advertisements===
* ''[[Transformers: Last Bot Standing]]'' TPB
* ''[[Transformers: Best of the Beasts]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Best of the Rarities]]''
* ''[[Transformers: King Grimlock]]'' TPB
* ''True Kvlt''
* ''Dead Seas''

==External links==
* [https://majorspoilers.com/2022/12/13/preview-transformers-shattered-glass-ii-5 Preview]

[[Category:IDW Shattered Glass issues]]

Talk:Devcon (DOTM)

2011-10-04T21:42:06Z

Wing Saber: New page: If members of a Transformers forum and I were to come up with a fan-made name, would that be able to become the name of this page until a real one is released (if one is) Of course, It wou...

If members of a Transformers forum and I were to come up with a fan-made name, would that be able to become the name of this page until a real one is released (if one is)
Of course, It would be listed in the notes that it is a fan-made name

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2011-10-04T21:27:25Z

Wing Saber: /* Transformers Warzone RPG */

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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:

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<br/><div class="list-header">'''New Ad Policy:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]
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<br/><div class="list-header">'''Server Move:'''</div>
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<br/><div class="list-header">'''Relicensing:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]
<br/><div class="list-header">'''Dealing With Vandalism:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]
<br/><div class="list-header">'''GoBots Sister Wiki:'''</div>
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]
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== Help Wanted ==

Hello one and all. I'm here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe. We're in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling. Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven't seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to "advertise" us, as it were. I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I've breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren't malign. Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site. I won't tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P

Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon. Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing. [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

== "Fictional" and "real" categories ==
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we've skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn't really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities "different". On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but "real world" sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I thought I'd cheat and see how some of the other fictional Wikis deal with the problem. Three different approaches I saw:
:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world "Real World" category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at "Real world X".
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with "Books" and "Books (real-world)". Though they also have one or two like "Real world companies".
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has "Books" versus "Stargate books" for real world books.
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::I'd favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be "Fictional" and "Real-world" (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it's gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). "Nonfictional" kinda works as an alternative, would "Real-world" be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::If we go that route, I think "real-world" should be used, since "real world" is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I'm not sure that's enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but "Fictional X" seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as "weapons", "technology", etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I'm leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn't this be some, um, confusing? It's just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like ''Honoji'') According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn't we place films like ''40-Year-Old Virgin'' or ''Godzilla'' in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Godzilla doesn't go in "Real world films" because it's not a real world ''Transformers'' film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a "Real films" category for Godzilla, etc, but I'm not sure it's worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::We shouldn't use "fictional X" for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve's Used Cars]] in a "fictional businesses" category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, "Big Steve's Used Cars" is not a fictional company, but "As the Kitchen Sinks" is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, ''As the Kitchen Sinks'' is a work of fiction, whereas "Big Steve's Used Cars" is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn't ''Buck Rogers'' a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like "Magazines" in used for magazines in our real life and "Companies" for companies in real life, why not just use "Film" for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in "Films" to "Films in ''Transformers'' fictions"? --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you'd get "Films in Generation 1" rather than "Generation 1 films". Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it's clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category's introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== "Transformers: " ==
We talked a bit about adding back "Transformers: " to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn't have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I'm okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. <br>1.) Whether or not "Transformers" is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? <br>2.) If "Transformers(:)" is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? <br>3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? <br>[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::#I think we've had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like "Transformers United", "The Transformers Collection", or "Transformers Animated", then we don't use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious "title: subtitle" setup ("Transformers: Armada", "Transformers: Prime"), then we use the colon. There's some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for ''Victory'', since it was released in English contexts as just "Transformers: Victory".
::#I think we're just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I've been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I don't see how "Transformers United" and "Transformers Animated" are any different from "Transformers: Prime". To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only "The Transformers Collection" seems to really belong in the "phrase" group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::"United" and "Animated" are adjectives that modify "Transformers" and have official sources that omit the colon. "Transformers Prime" doesn't make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I am not certain about those two "rules" for colons either. They're rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before "Transformers" can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).

::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at ''Transformers: Victory'', that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the ''Victory'' cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don't care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory"? I'd disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Why? We can't go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" written out for the 1985 & 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not ''Victory''? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as "Transformers: Victory", to me that means that the official English name of the franchise ''is'' Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Tying out "(franchise)" every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]'s previous ridiculously long title.
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of "Transformers: " is acceptable to most. I'll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there's no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what's wrong with [[The Ascending]] and [[The Gathering]]? It's a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with "Transformers" is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::That's the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing "Transformers" into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?
:::::::::::Like it or not, "Transformers: " is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding "Transformers: " to article titles, on the other hand, adds ''clarity'' and avoids pointless disambiguation. "The Transformers: Bumblebee" is preferable to "Bumblebee (comic)", "Transformers: Sector 7" to "Sector 7 (comic)", etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::I get that it's useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we're overcomplicating the issue. Occam's razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I'd go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::Also on an Occam's razor tip, "Bumblebee (comic)" conveys more information in fewer characters than "Transformers: Bumblebee". I really don't understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::::There's something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent "Transformers"-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep "Transformers" out of the deal doesn't work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don't think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won't be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

I gotta say, I'm hating how this is working in practice. Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because "Transformers: ***" is a full title? duh. --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. "Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)", "Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)" etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

:::That would be silly, and I'm pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting "Transformers:" in names is a change we'd already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

::::On a related note, it's a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline" or "in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...".--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::Would the best solution there be something like "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]"? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)

===Suggestion to creating templates===

Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like <nowiki>{{T3}} for ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' or {{TSCC}} for ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]''</nowiki>. What I'm suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don't use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:
<pre>
{{tf|Armada}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]''

{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]''

{{jptf|bwn}} -> ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]''

</pre>

If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make

<pre>
{{tf|armada|t}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]''

parameter 1:
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory
z = Transformers: Zone
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination
armada = Transformers Armada
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo
mov = Movie
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen
tfa = Transformers Animated
...and (blah blah)

parameter 2:
*default* - franchise
t - toyline
ct - cartoon
co - comic
m - manga
f - film

And, if possible:
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]''

</pre>

--'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

:It's something I've thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it's not necessary to disambiguate it), I don't think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

==Jungaroo==
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there's no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think he's in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

== Making the search suggestion work better ==

I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn't quite match what I typed. I think it's something to do with the speed I'm typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.

Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it's not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.

If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):
<pre><nowiki>
var ss_memory = null;
var ss_timeron = 0;
var ss_timer;

function DoActualSearch() {
ss_timeron=0;
var newdiv = document.getElementById("searchsuggest");
if (!newdiv) {
var newdiv = document.createElement("div");
newdiv.id = "searchsuggest";
var searchdiv = document.getElementById("searchBody");
searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);
}
var x = document.getElementById("searchInput").value;
if (x == ss_memory) {
return;
}
ss_memory = x;
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'none';
if (x.length < 30 && x.length > 1 && x.value != "") {
sajax_do_call("wfAjaxSearchSuggest", [x], newdiv);
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'block';
}
}

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Unfortunately it won't fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you'll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type "Megatron", but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
:Hmm. I feel like adding <tt>ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC</tt> around line 20 of ''suggest.php'' might help w/ our search results, but it's hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

==Stuff==
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I'd love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn't the "red driver" or "blue driver", but the dog and "Gas-Bot" both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun's box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and "初めてトランスフォーマー" written on it.
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there's a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn't it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:::True, but we don't know if those were approved or know those weren't approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn't know if we'd do that if Wreckers #5 didn't partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don't see it). However, I won't fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

== Transformers Warzone RPG ==

Hi Guys! I have a Transformers RPG called Transfromers Warzone, and as of right now I have like 5 active members. It's a really interesting storyline, and we could use some more members! If you're interested, here's the link!
[http://www.tfwarzone.spruz.com/]
- Wing Saber

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2011-10-04T21:26:13Z

Wing Saber: /* Transformers Warzone RPG */ new section

Talk:Orange jet Autobot

2007-08-20T19:37:47Z

Wing Saber:

Talk:Orange jet Autobot

2007-08-20T19:33:37Z

Wing Saber: New page: Gah! Again your going to delete one of my pages! Every character deserves to have a page for its own!

Gah! Again your going to delete one of my pages! Every character deserves to have a page for its own!<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Padlock (Energon)

2007-08-20T19:32:14Z

Wing Saber: /* Energon cartoon */

Padlock (Energon)

2007-08-20T19:31:24Z

Wing Saber:

Orange jet Autobot

2007-08-20T19:30:30Z

Wing Saber: /* ''Energon'' */

This unnamed autobot is definitley the most useless transformer ever, even more useless than [[Padlock|Padlock]].

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Energon''====
:''Voice Actor:'' ??? (US), ??? (Japan)

This unnamed autobot was stationed to guard [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] along with Padlock and [[Wing Dagger (Energon)| Wing Dagger]] during the mass breakout of decepticon prisoners on Cybertron. The two latter bots left him on guard duty while they left to investigate the breakout. His final act was to whistle cheerily before Shockblast elbowed him through a wall and then blew his spark out.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Orange jet Autobot

2007-08-20T19:28:18Z

Wing Saber: New page: This unnamed autobot is definitley the most useless transformer ever, even more useless than Padlock. ==Fiction== ===Animated continuity=== ====''Energon''==== :''Voice Actor:...

This unnamed autobot is definitley the most useless transformer ever, even more useless than [[Padlock|Padlock]].

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Energon''====
:''Voice Actor:'' ??? (US), ??? (Japan)

This unnamed autobot was stationed to guard [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] along with Padlock and [[Wing Dagger (Energon)| Wing Dagger]] during the mass breakout of decepticon prisoners on Cybertron. The two latter bots left him on guard duty while the went to go investigate the breakout. His final act was to whistle cheerily before Shockblast elbowed him through a wall and then blew his spark out.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Wing Saber (Energon)

2007-08-20T19:21:56Z

Wing Saber:

:''Wing Saber is an [[Autobot]] in [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WingSaber-comic.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Wing Saber joins ''[[Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] in the proud tradition of being a Magic Mushroom for an Optimus.]]

'''Wing Saber''' is an Autobot who used to be called [[Wing Dagger (Energon)|Wing Dagger]]. Then [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] happened to him. Afterwards, Wing Saber has led a noble life of becoming parts for [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. Wing Saber even has his own personal team of [[Mini-Con]]s, the [[Caliber Mini-Cons]].

''Japanese name:'' '''Sonic Bomber''' (''Cybertron'')<br>
''Hasbro Energon pre-relase name:'' '''Superion Maximus'''<br>
''Hasbro Cybertron pre-release name:'' '''Knockdown'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Energon''====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Colin Murdoch]] (US), [[Kouji Yusa]] (Japan)

Wing Dagger was a mere security guard on Cybertron, but when [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] killed his peer, [[Padlock]], he got the chance to become something more. Pursuing Shockblast through the sky amongst the Energon towers, the Decepticon struck one with a beam, causing it to crash down upon Wing Dagger and Tidal Wave. Wing Dagger was destroyed, but his spark was taken to [[Primus]]. Primus, with the aid of Rad, restored the warrior. Reformatted into Wing Saber, he joined Optimus' team not only to find Energon, but to avenge the death of his friend.

Wing Saber, being reformatted and repowered by Primus himself, understood his task of being Optimus Prime's personal servant. Optimus Prime has reminded Wing Saber that he is not his property, and Wing Saber seems to have had issues finding out who he is. Wing Saber joined [[Optimus Supreme]] and the other Autobots in spark form to confront the massive [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]]-[[Unicron]] being at the end of the ''Energon'' series.

====''Cybertron''====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Sam Vincent]] (US), (Japan) <br>
:''Special Attacks:'' Flap Sword, Galaxy Caliber

Wing Saber returned during the search for the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s, but with a new rebellious, irreverent edge. Having undergone a falling out in the brief period between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' involving the life of a stranded astronaut, Wing Saber took off into space and returned after encountering the [[Omega Frequency]] wave after the [[Velocitron|Speed Planet]] Key was inserted into the [[Omega Lock]] on [[Earth]]. Wing Saber returned and showed signs of a new defiant attitude towards his former allies, but would quickly find himself part of the team again, which would lead to reviving his ability to combine with Optimus Prime to create their Sonic Wing Mode. Wing Saber would continue to aid the Autobots until the end of the series where he'd depart, and eventually encounter the mighty [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], who somehow survived his duel with Galavtron on [[Gigantion|the Giant Planet]].

''('''Note''': Sonic Bomber is not the same character as Energon Wing Saber in Galaxy Force.)''

==Toys==
===Energon===
*'''Wing Saber''' (Mega, 2004)
:''Japanese ID Number:'' '''SC-17'''

: ''Energon'' Wing Saber transforms into a Cybertronic "flying wing" jet. He disassembles into four portions, which attach to the limbs on the Super-class ''Energon'' Optimus Prime toy. When Wing Saber's upper-body parts and wings are attached to Prime's arms, they are in "Flight Mode", while the lower-body-as-arms configuration bring Wing Saber's non-firing cannons to the forefront, forming "Fight Mode".

: The [[Takara]] version predated the [[Hasbro]] release by several months. The two versions are largely identical, but Takara's has a greater number of more intricate [[paint application]]s.

===Cybertron===
[[Image:Cyb_wingsaber_toy.jpg|left|thumb|170px|I can barely fly with all this junk in the trunk.]]
*'''Wing Saber''' (Ultra, 2005)
:''Japanese ID Number:'' '''GC-22'''

: ''Cybertron'' Wing Saber transforms into a heavily-armed military plane based on an A-10 Thunderbolt. Plugging a [[Cyber Planet Key]] into the jack behind his cockpit exposes a pair of non-firing cannon barrels. His wing-flaps detach to form swords; for Wing Saber to use them, they need to be inserted into sword-handles that plug into 5mm holes in Wing Saber's forearms, as his hands are incompatible with the standard weapon-pegs. His removable spring-loaded missile launchers, mounted under his wings, can also be attached to those ports. He can also form a backpack for Optimus Prime's super mode, forming their "Sonic Wing Mode".

:The vast majority of the [[Takara]] GC-22 Sonic Bomber figures have a misaligned "nose guard" that can obscure the eyes in some cases. This problem was fixed for the [[Hasbro]] Wing Saber figure. The Sonic Bomber figure preceded [[Hasbro]]'s Wing Saber by several months and has a slightly different deco. Differences include silver chromed saber blades and gold chromed chest shield. Minor changes were also made to graphics on the plane, such as an entirely red nosecone as opposed to Sonic Bomber's white, and smaller [[Autobot]] insignias on the wings.

*'''Sonic Convoy w/ Coby Rumble Giftset'''
:''Japanese ID Number:'' '''EX-02'''

:[[Takara]] issued a slight Sonic Bomber [[redeco]] as a (rushed) Toys 'R' Us [[exclusive]] set with transparent [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Galaxy Convoy]] and a [[retool]] of [[Scrapmetal drones|Rumble]] as [[Cobybot|Coby's Rumble]]. Sonic Bomber received only very minor changes; The saber blades were changed from silver chrome to gold chrome, all red paint was changed to metallic red, the chest shield halves are now red chrome rather than gold. Benefitting from a [[Hasbro]] tweak, this version also has a properly aligned "nose guard".

*'''Optimus Prime and Wing Saber''' (2-pack, 2006)

:This set, consisting of totally unmodified versions of Cybertron Optimus Prime and Wing Saber, was released as a CostCo exclusive. The set also includes a DVD with the Cybertron episode ''[[United]]''. This set comes in a particularly huge box, and retailed for $35.99, five dollars less than the MSRP for Optimus Prime by himself.

==Trivia==
* ''Energon'' Wing Saber was a toy-concept initated by [[Takara]] and left largely to their own design team to develop, though they had to follow various [[Hasbro]] price-point mandates. The toy was detail-designed by noted Japanese fan [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] and incorporates elements of both fan-favorites [[Predaking]] and [[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]].

* Ichikawa originally envisioned Wing Saber's personal weapon to be the [[Energon Saber]]. This was nixed by the animation production staff, however, along with many other toy-team concepts.

* ''Energon'' Wing Saber was originally named [[Superion Maximus]] for his western incarnation, but the name was shelved in favor of simply reusing the established Japanese name. "Superion Maximus" was reused for the combined form of the ''Energon'' [[Air Team]] shortly thereafter.

* Wing Saber's bio on Transformers.com, first appearing under the "Superion Maximus" title, was largely different from anything else, wherein "Wing Saber" was a venerable defender of high ranking Autobots and was the personal carrier of the Autobot high council.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/WingSaber/wingsaber.htm Wing Saber at TFU.info]
*[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/b064ea50d2b114d0/43847f79db724831?lnk=st&q=&rnum=3&hl=en#43847f79db724831 An interview with Hirofumi Ichikawa on his Energon work]

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[[Category: Security officers]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

2007-08-05T18:30:29Z

Wing Saber: /* Merchandise */

{{disambig3|Cliffjumper}}

:''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:3DCard-Cliffjumper.jpg|thumb|right|250px|He'd have jumped that cliff if he hadn't swerved.]]

'''Cliffjumper''' goes zoom!

==Toys==

==Merchandise==
===3D Battle Card Game===
*'''Cliffjumper''' (2007)
:''Card number'': '''2'''

: Swerve is a 31-point "Common" piece in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]. Constructed of punch-out pieces from randomly-packed plastic cards (two full robots per pack), he can be assembled into his car mode (model undetermined), or into a rather stumpy robot mode. One of his blaster-weapons is held in his right hand, the other can mount on either shoulder.

: He uses the same construction as the [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] cards. This style is similar to the one used by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], [[Earth]]-mode [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], and [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

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==Trivia==
* Amusingly enough, Cliffjumper's robot mode is clearly designed after ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], though with a few movie-aesthetic concessions thrown in, mostly in the look of the feet. It's possible the names of the two cards got mixed up, as card-Swerve bears more than a passing resemblance to Bumblebee, and Cliffjumper sure seems to be relegated to being a Bumblebee redeco since, well, everything after that [[Cliffjumper (G1)|first toy]].

==External links==
* [http://www.wizards.com/transformers/ 3D Battle Card Game at Wizards of the Coast]

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[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Movie characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jazz (Movie)

2007-07-27T18:39:18Z

Wing Saber: /* Trivia */

{{disambig2|the Autobot hipster from the live action movie|the original ''cool cat''|Jazz (G1)}}

:''Jazz is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MovieJazz_promorender.jpg|right|thumb|350px|"Slide with me. Just bounce with me. Now freeze!"]]

First Lieutenant '''Jazz''' is one happy-go-lucky Autobot. Good-natured and always able to take things in his stride, he provides a decent contrast to the more serious demeanor of [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] or [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Prime]] himself. He's also a talker, something Ironhide and Prime like to tease him about. He might be the smallest Autobot but he's by no means a coward. His only real complaint is that he gets stuck fighting the small ones.

==Fiction==

===Ghosts Of Yesterday===
Onboard the Ark, Jazz was the first to detect the ''[[Ghost 1]]'s'' presence, and was later badly damaged in a fight with the Decepticons. After being repaired, he and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] fought together against [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

===''Transformers'' (2007) film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Darius McCrary]] (English)

[[Image:Movie_Jazz_protoformcrash.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Looks like those homers Ruth hit finally came back from orbit. IT'S BACKA HERE!!!!!]]

Jazz was part of Optimus Prime's unit, summoned to Earth by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] after the latter Autobot came to be in the possession of [[Samuel James Witwicky|Sam Witwicky]]. After his [[protoform]] crashed through a baseball stadium, he investigated a nearby car dealership and chose a Pontiac Solstice hardtop as his vehicle mode. Linking up with his fellow Autobots in a deserted alley Jazz greeted Sam and [[Mikaela Banes]] as "little bitches," stating that Earth seems to be a cool place to hang out. He casually sat on the hood of another car while Optimus Prime explained to Sam their mission to find the [[All Spark]] and how his [[Archibald Amundsen Witwicky|grandfather's]] glasses were the key to its location.

Soon after, as Sam looked for his grandfather's glasses, the Autobots attempted to assist by clumsily destroying the yard where they went. When it came to hide from [[Ronald Witwicky|Sam's]] [[Judy Witwicky|parents]], Jazz had the easiest time blending into the shadows due to his small stature.

When Sam and Mikaela were captured by [[Sector Seven]], the Autobots mounted a rescue that saw Optimus Prime tearing the roof off [[Reggie Simmons|Agent Simmons']] vehicle. When the agents attempted to resist, Jazz used a magnet to relieve the humans of their weapons. After Bumblebee was captured by Sector Seven during the retreat, Jazz expressed his desire to rescue him, but was overruled by Optimus Prime, who didn't believe it possible to accomplish this without harming the humans, and so they should let them go.

[[Image:Don't kick the baby.JPG|right|thumb|250px|"Don't kick the baby!"]]

The next day, after Optimus used his navigation scanner on Archibald Witwicky's glasses, Jazz again commented that they could not leave Bumblebee to die at the hands of Sector Seven, to become a human experiment. Optimus replied that Bumblebee would die in vain if they did not find the All Spark, and when Ironhide asked if the primitive and cruel humans deserved to be saved, Optimus countered by asking if Transformers were so different in the past. Going on to explain what he saw in the humans, Prime declared that if it came to it, he would sacrifice himself to destroy the All Spark - the humans should not pay for Cybertron's mistakes. Inspired by his words, Jazz and the other Autobots rolled out, filled with determination.

On the way to [[Hoover Dam]], the Autobots encountered Bumblebee leading a column of Sector Seven assault vehicles. Jazz and his fellow Autobots applied brakes and did a hard u-turn to join the formation.

Entering [[Mission City]], the [[William Lennox|human]] [[Robert Epps|soldiers]] tried to call for air support from their own forces, only to be attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] disguised as a human F-22 fighter. Jazz, oddly, sat in vehicle mode after the explosion which crippled Bumblebee, destroying his legs. When [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]] began shelling the battle site, Jazz sped to the tank in vehicle mode, then transformed and hopped on top of the turret to distract the Decepticon from the humans. As Brawl also transformed, Jazz managed to wreck Brawl's left-side rocket launcher pod before being tossed off.

Jazz then attacked [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] when he appeared on the scene, but all he got for his trouble was being blasted by the Decepticon's fusion cannon. As Ironhide and Ratchet escorted Sam and the All Spark to safety, Jazz attempted to buy them some time by taking on Megatron by himself but was completely overmatched. The Decepticon leader tossed him through the air, then landed upon him into the crushing grip of his talons. Valiantly, Jazz fought on to the bitter end as Megatron tore him in two.

In the aftermath of Megatron's defeat, Ironhide somberly handed Optimus Prime Jazz's remains as Ratchet reported that he could not save their comrade. {{Storylink|Transformers (2007)}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Deluxe, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-04'''
[[Image:Jazzmovietoydeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|"Just wait. They'll do me in G1 colors soon..."]]

:Jazz transforms into a silver [[wikipedia:Pontiac_Solstice|Pontiac Solstice]] Custom Hardtop. Included is a blaster weapon that elongates into a sniper rifle, which may also be clipped directly onto his rear spoiler when in vehicle mode. In robot mode, the section featuring this same rear spoiler may be kept folded onto his back or worn on either shoulder as a shield. An interesting undocumented feature is a hinge joint located on the bottom of the rifle can attach to the ''shield's'' hinge joint, creating three choice weapon configurations: ''(a)'' a mounted long range sniper rifle, ''(b)'' an ambidextrous shoulder-mounted canon, or ''(c)'' a short range blaster with built-in shield somewhat akin to what has been seen in Jazz's concept art and in the movie itself.

: As with most of the mainline toys, he features a [[Automorph]]ing gimmick that is activated by pushing the car roof down onto his back and locking it into place. This raises his head and slides his chest panels into proper position for the robot mode. This feature, like the weaponry mentioned above, is not documented at all, so one must be careful to not press the chest ''and'' the back at the same time.

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*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Legends, 2007)
[[Image:Movie_Legends_Jazz_toy.jpg|left|thumb|180px|Why My Bumpers Hurt?]]

: A much smaller version of the character, Legends Jazz features limited articulation and detail, along with a much simpler transformation. A rather glaring side-effect of this simplicity, in a desire to mimic the hood chest of the larger toy, is the addition of a second front bumper on the roof of his alt-mode. Whether this means Jazz also includes a second engine to go with this front bumper or an attempt at compensation for a case of [[Barricade (Movie)|police car envy]] is unknown.

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*'''Ion Blast Autobot Jazz''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
[[Image:Movie_FAB_Jazz.jpg|right|thumb|"What good am I again?"]]

: Smaller than his Deluxe toy and less articulated, ''this'' one has a missile in place of one hand. Who knew Jazz was a lefty?

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*'''Final Battle Jazz''' (Deluxe, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-14'''
[[Image:Movie_FinalBattleJazz_toy.jpg|thumb|left|251px|Ouchies.]]

: An extensive retool of Jazz, modifying his head and most of his legs to give them a broken, battle-scarred appearance. Amusingly, because Hasbro chose to keep his vehicle mode pristine, nearly the rest of his body is undamaged. The damaged parts and his head have a black and blue deco, representing exposed circuitry and glowing conduits.

: Jazz comes with a brand new spring-loaded Gatling cannon weapon (called a ''Quagma Cannon'' on the packaging), modeled after the actual weapon Jazz appears with in the film. It can fire a transparent blue projectile and, like his original featured weapon, can be mounted in several configurations: ''(a)'' Mounted on his right arm with the Gatling cannon/launcher facing forward as he appears in most promotional material, and ''(b)'' mounted on his left arm with the flip-out long rifle barrel pointed forwards.

: Unusual for a regular Deluxe figure, Jazz is packed on his card in robot mode, no doubt to highlight the changes to the figure that would not be visible in vehicle mode.

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*'''Allspark Legends''' (Multi-pack, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_Allspark_Legends_pack.jpg|thumb|right|120px|]]

: A Toys R Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends class figures contains unmodified toys of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Jazz, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

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*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Deluxe, 2007)
[[Image:Movie_G1Jazz_toy.jpg|left|thumb|220px|"...''real'' soon."]]

: An extensive [[redeco]] of Deluxe class Jazz, this Target-[[exclusive]] has a color and paint deco based heavily upon ''Generation 1'' [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz's]] Martini Racing scheme, though he is lacking in Martini sponsorship for obvious reasons, replacing them with his own name. Disco Jazz doesn't need to advertise really, but he does.

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====Robot Replicas====
*'''Autobot Jazz''' (2007)
[[Image:Movie_RobotReplicas_Jazz.jpg|left|thumb|120px| "My hand picks up XM."]]

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====Titanium Series====
*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Robot Master, 2007)

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Movie_Jazz_armswordconcept.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Cool melee weapon in the game, ''totally'' non-existant in the movie.]]

* The packaging text for the Deluxe Jazz figure refers to his weapon as a "telescoping sword". As ridiculous as this sounds considering this weapon ''looks'' like a firearm and can attach to his spoiler in vehicle mode as such, this very idea actually comes from concept drawings (see image on left) of a sword weapon featured on the same concept art that also had Jazz showcasing the short range blaster/shield thingy both featured in the film and included with his Final Battle retool. So, ''really''... not that ridiculous anymore.

* Despite his quite unambiguous death in the film ''itself'', the packaging for the upcoming Target-exclusive Jazz redeco (see ''Toys Section'' above) claims he ''survived'' this encounter, was ''repaired'' by Ratchet, and chose his new colors as a way to relieve boredom during his long convalescence.This has led some fans to believe that, should they make a sequel that he may be revived with a shred of the allspark. That is ''sooo'' Jazz.

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