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Talk:Target: 2006

2012-08-30T23:15:09Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx:

I think this page should be broken up into its component chapters, or at least as a brief overview and hub to those chapters. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the fact that Galvatron would just leave his cannon lying out in the open like that in itself counts as an error, not just when Autobots decide to build a city on the same lot - how did he intend to make sure no one would just go and destroy the damn thing right after he leaves? He couldn't exactly bury it either since, assumably, it's supposed to be powered by sunlight the solar panels will have collected in the 20 years. [[User:84.250.41.125|84.250.41.125]] 17:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

:After he's tested the weapon he explicitly states that he's going to hang around in 1986 long enough for it to recharge, so presumably it would be buried fully loaded. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 22:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

==Galvatron and Megatron==

Several times Megatron has been able to take Galvatron by surprise. How could Galvatron have forgotten that back when he was Megatron, he was approached by a time-traveller from the future claiming to be the Decepticon leader of the year 2006? [[Special:Contributions/84.71.227.54|84.71.227.54]] 11:46, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:The act of traveling back in time appears to change his own past. There is some vague indication (circa Time Wars) that Galvatron's memories revise themselves to accomodate these minor changes, but the process is not immediate. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:49, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
::There is, further, the complicated possibility that this Galvatron may not actually be remade from the Megatron featured in T2k6, but rather the Straxus-created clone from later stories. It's all terribly... urrgh. Furman time travel stories only tend to work in broad strokes, not in the details. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:54, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
::::The Straxus-Megatron clone dies though. Plus there's no real evidence to back it up that the Megatron in the '86 movie who becomes Galvatron isn't the real Megatron. No, thinking about it, there may be a much more simpler explanation. We know that the real Megatron went to Cybertron and got partly possessed by Straxus causing amnesia of recent events. Lets say that this amnesia also permamently takes away his memory of his meeting with his future-self, Galvatron. [[Special:Contributions/81.79.105.225|81.79.105.225]] 13:09, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, but the Straxus-Megatron only dies because of a conflict caused by Galvatron travelling back in time in the first place, so he may NOT have died had Galvatron not come back, and gone on to become Galvatron, plus Galvatron *remembers* events witnessed by the Straxus-Megatron during Time Wars and oh blimey I've gone cross-eyed. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:30, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
In regards to Time Wars, we know that Galvatron is partnered with Straxus-Megatron in our reality but how about in Galvatron's memories that it was the real Megatron (who later becomes Galvatron) who was partnered with Galvatron and not Straxus-Megatron? It goes some way to explaining why things are happening differently - because he has a different partner. The only explanations needed here is how the real Megatron got to fight alongside Galvatron (which doesn't matter much since nobody cares or gives much thought to the events that transpired in Galvatron's memories other than what we see in the comic) but I like the different partner explanation more so than the Galvatron throughout the Marvel U.K. comics and the '86 movie being an upgrade to someone who was just a clone of Megatron and not the real Megatron explanation. But yeah, Time Wars *IS* a catalogue of continuity errors with no real correct answer I suppose. If you want to believe that this Galvatron was originally Straxus then its up to you. I just find it kinda messy and requires more work to get it to fit. Try reading Time Wars from my perspective and see how that works for you. [[Special:Contributions/81.79.105.225|81.79.105.225]] 17:28, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

:I'm not actually trying to seriously argue the fact - I'm just pointing out how vague and open to interpretation the nature of the story is. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:47, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

==Omega Supreme==

I've added a little bit on Omega to the errors section to clarify it a bit as Smokescreen actually says they should sic Omega on the current Decepticons rather than the future ones (and before Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge had arrived at Megatron's base). It is a really big omission they don't use him at all, especially as "Omega is the last line of defense for the Autobots, a titanic guardian robot capable of instilling fear and panic into the sparks of Decepticons that dare face him on the field of battle". And Buzzsaw wasn't there to whoop his ass. [[Special:Contributions/80.176.139.71|80.176.139.71]] 15:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)

I think a little too much is made of the Autobots not using Omega Supreme. Yes, the comic doesn't give a reason for it, but the reason isn't too hard to imagine. Omega Supreme is a defense base. Siccing him on the Decepticons would be offense. If he failed, the Ark would be without its last line of defense. It would be a little like sending out your awesome goalie to try to go score points. I don't think it rises to the level of "error." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:45, 26 December 2011 (EST)

==Featured Article?==

Once the ROTF hype machine has died down a little is there any chance of making this a featured article? It seems pretty complete, has very few red links and covers the first really 'epic' Transformers time travel story. It's also, arguably, the work that put [[Simon Furman]] on the map as far as Transformers go, and without that, [[Furmanism| What chance do we have?]] --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 03:11, 10 November 2009 (EST)
: I'd say it needs a few more images and a more thorough summary of the plot, but with some work, it's definitely a candidate. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:33, 10 November 2009 (EST)
::I added a few things. How about now? --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 03:12, 13 November 2009 (EST)

==Galvatron's weapon==
"The idea of Unicron being defeatable by Transformer weaponry has never turned up again." - Does that count the Matrix Cannon from the PS2 ''Armada'' game? IIRC, it's the combined power of the Mini-Cons, but other than the name, it's not the MATRIX matrix, it's just "a really big gun." [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:07, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)

2012-08-30T23:11:05Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx:

I think we should put some sources for the character roster. I could get started on it, if that's necessary. I hadn't heard about Metroplex being in it, only from rumors that Matt Tieger said it somewhere. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:07, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
::It's in this month's Game Informer.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:17, 26 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah. Well, I'll try to get started on the sourcing, and any help would be appreciated. :D --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:30, 26 October 2011 (EDT)

== Blast-Off ==

About 1:10 in to the trailer to the top right corner of Megatron there in a Decepticon that looks like a space shuttle does that confirmed
blast-off--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:20, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: There are so many Blast Offs across the fiction (including a goshdarn tank!) that we have no way of knowing who or what it really is. (Astrotrain, Sky Lynx, etc). [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:23, 17 December 2011 (EST)
You dont have to be rude I was just asking a question and by the way why would it be Sky Lynx.--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:32, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: How was I rude? And it's just as possible that it ''could'' be Sky Lynx. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:40, 17 December 2011 (EST)
Name one Autobot in WFC/FOC with purple lightings Sky Lynx is an AUTOBOT with RED lightings and that shuttle was shown at lest 5 sec bruticus was formed and that shuttles design can be seen on his left arm--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 16:48, 17 December 2011 (EST)
:: OK, OK. I was just trying to make a point. No need to start capslockjawing on me. Anyways, the thing is is that we don't know it's Blast Off for sure, because we've had no official confirmation on it. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:57, 17 December 2011 (EST)
Thank you thats all I wanted to know.--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 17:01, 17 December 2011 (EST)

== Yay! ==

You guys are great for getting everything organized. :) Also, where was it mentioned that Arcee would be in the game? I'm removing it until we can get some sourcing. I'm also pretty sure Matt Tieger said there would be no females. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 12:02, 29 December 2011 (EST)

== Dinobots - FOC or Prime disambiguation ==

The Dinobots were mentioned in Grimlock's Hall of Fame bio, so their existence predates Fall of Cybertron - there's a link to "Dinobot (Prime)" on the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]]. Is that mention enough to override the FOC parenthetical or should we amend the LSC link? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:26, 26 January 2012 (EST)

== Jazz voice ==

I think [[John DiMaggio]] was confirmed to voice Jazz in Fall of Cybertron.
Plus we heard his voice a while back, it sounds a lot like him.

--[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 09:23, 5 May 2012 (EDT)

== PC ==

Attention, the facebook page of Fall Of Cybertron has officially announced that Fall Of Cybertron would be on PC, and be released at the same dates as the other two platforms.
--[[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]] 1 June 2012
WARPATH
I'm just happy that my favorite character warpath is in the game. AND can somebody update the pape and give it new info!?!?!

== Part of FOC voice cast revealed ==

Here's the link: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/06/13/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-voice-cast-revealed.aspx

Steve Blum is voicing Shockwave, Swindle, and Sharpshot

In addition to Jazz, Troy Baker is voicing Jetfire and Kickback

In addition to Cliffjumper, Nolan North is voicing Brawl and Bruticus

In addition to Megatron and Ratchet, Fred Tatasciore is voicing Metroplex

Isaac Singleton is voicing Soundwave
:Thanks, I've added the new ones. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:34, 13 June 2012 (EDT)

You forgot to add Swindle's and Brawl's voice actors

== Funny reference ==
At one part of a preview, Kickback gets a door knocked on top of him and Snarl comes out and murmurs "excuse me" at him, referring to the old movie. lobythelegend 22:10, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

== Missing characters ==

I noticed that Silverbolt and Sideswipe are missing from the character list even though Silverbolt was in the first gameplay video and Sideswipe has his chassis in multiplayer.

We've also seen Hound's chassis in multiplayer, but I don't think it's enough to add them to characters.

Well, Silverbolt was in campaign gameplay so we should at least add him.

I think we should add Quake to the Decepticon list. During a Comic-Con demo, you saw his name alongside Warpath, Megatron, Perceptor, and the like on an MP customization screen of armor presets.

Yeah, we should add Quake and Ultra Magnus, 'cause we saw Magnus in the Gamestop preorder commercial, behind Hound. --[[User:Gurrengelion|Gurrengelion]] 01:21, 31 July 2012 (EDT)

The demo confirms Drag Strip and Quake. --[[User:Gurrengelion|Gurrengelion]] 06:00, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

Sideswipe is also seen flying Jazz and Cliffjumper to the dinobots last known location here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxhbFnele1A&feature=channel&list=UL.--[[User:Ovidkid|Ovidkid]] 17:36, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

== Megatron Spoiler ==

'''SPOILER ALERT'''In the Demo of Fall of Cybertron the level with [[Vortex (FOC)|Vortex]] an audio file pickup (The Second to last one) contains [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] talking about [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] being "pulverised". Should we include it or not until the game is released?[[User:Bumblebee2000|Bumblebee2000]] 00:13, 12 August 2012 (EDT) P.S Just practicing links.

== Vortex ==

Has Vortex's voice actor confirmed yet? [[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 20:50, 19 August 2012 (EDT)
==Frenzy==

Frenzy IS in the game. In Chaper X "The Final Countdown", he is inside the room with Soundwave and other Decepticons. He is beating up an Autobot next to Rumble.

I'm not adding this myself in case if I mess up something up, so could someone please do it?----[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:11, 30 August 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Apex Armor (Thirteen)

2012-06-02T19:34:05Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx: Apex Armor name origin

==Name Origin==
*Maybe I'm just trying too hard,but I think the name "Apex Armor" ''might'' have come from the Appellaxians. They were one of the first enemies that the Justice League fought in the comics. The Appellexians were aliens that had a type of suit made from natural materials,like crystal or wood.Again,if this is too far fetched,I apologize.I know I have a history of making worthless additions on this wiki.---[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 15:34, 2 June 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Wheeljack (Prime)

2012-03-26T23:29:01Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx: /* Wreckers */

REMOVED DUE TO SPOILERS--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 21:52, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::Removing it is too late. The point isn't that there's spoilers on this page, but that they were in your edit comments, which are created automatically when creating this page. Going back and changing your comment doesn't solve the problem -- we can't see that on the recent changes page.
::(That said, coming to the wiki within a few hours of a new episode and expecting to look through the Recent Changes page spoiler-free is not terribly realistic. Yes, I alter my editing habits to avoid spoilers, but that's just out of my own courtesy. I don't think we can realistically police this sort of thing.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:Oh, hey, a giant spoiler right on the Recent Changes. Yes, it's Wheeljack, just after he comes through the ground bridge from the Decepticon ship and tells the Autobots to shut the bridge off. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)

----
So I can't be the only one that immediately thought 'Drift' when I saw him, can I? {{unsigned|75.73.70.113}}
: Yes. Yes, you are. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:54, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:: I respectfully disagree. I, as well as a couple of other people on boards I frequent had a similar thought. "Slicing and dicing white sports car" was about all that was agreed on, though. :P [[Special:Contributions/72.35.60.2|72.35.60.2]] 11:00, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::: Obviously anon 75.73.70.113 is your time traveling future self. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 20:20, 5 March 2011 (EST)

== XANA ==

I'd just like to note that the phrase "seems quite reminiscent" was copied straight from [[Airachnid]]'s equally coincidental similarity to an unrelated concept. I did so because I'm not so good at wording things sometimes.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 00:26, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Argh, it sucks there, too! Thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

==Ship/AltMode==

Hey, not logged in for a while. Just wondering, is it worth mentioning how his Ship seems to have some bits made to look like his G1 Counterpart's Alt Mode? EG, it has a spoiler, and when seen from the side a couple times, it "looks" like it has car wheels. Or is this just my imagination. Could well be, considering how I thought there was an end shot of it flying off, but reallt the end shot is the Mobile Photo. --[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] (Sorry, forgotten how to do the auto Sig)

The picture from the making of TF:Prime video: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/982/wheeljackprimealt.jpg (I got the image and I tried to add it but I have no idea how to add a picture) --[[User:crazyjeffy|crazyjeffy]]

==toy picture==

It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/

==Wreckers==
Should we mention in the "Notes" section that this is the first incarnation of Wheeljack to be a Wrecker?------[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:20, 26 March 2012 (EDT)
:No. Please stop asking random questions in the talk pages. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:24, 26 March 2012 (EDT)
::I am really sorry if you found me annoying.I just thought that they were worth mentioning.------[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:29, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Wheeljack (Prime)

2012-03-26T23:28:47Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx: /* Wreckers */

Talk:Bulkhead (Prime)

2012-03-26T23:22:51Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx:

When his pic is on the main page, it leads to [[Ironhide (Prime)]]! {{unsigned|TOM| 22:39, November 25, 2010 (EDT)}}
:Thanks! Fixed. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:50, 25 November 2010 (EST)
::Maybe in the Japanese version of Prime, Bulkhead will be renamed Ironhide for consistency with the other franchises. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:54, 25 November 2010 (EST)

==Wreckers==
Should we mention in the "Notes" that this is the first incarnation of Bulkead to be a Wrecker?-----[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:22, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

2012-03-15T00:13:06Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx:

Do you have a quote of Sentinel being specifically mentioned in the comic? I don't remember anything past the uni scene. While the original thirteen were killed by the Fallen in the comic and novel, there's nothing to confirm Sentinel wasn't a descendant like Optimus. Again, correct me if I'm wrong[[User:Eire]] 20.14 Oct 12 09 (UTC)
:"See, if you break down the elemental components of energon and assume a constant decay rate then extrapolate for each of the fourteen galactic convergences it took '''''Sentinel Prime's''''' expedition to get an echo you end up with a formula for inter-dimensional energy that mass and light alone can't '''''possibly''''' explain." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:28, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::Erm ok, thanks for the quote Starfield, anyway, Jetfire explained in the adaptations that The Fallen returned to Cybertron, after the battle with the first generation for Earth, slaughtering all the Primes except for the child hidden from him (Optimus). Unless Sentinel is revealed to be alive in TF3, which is unlikely considering this was not mentioned in the final edit of ROTF, then he probably died because of The Fallen. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 17:57, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Starfield, I actually wanted the answer Alientraveller gave. I'm well aware of Sentinel's existence in the movieverse, but I just couldn't remember a reference in issue 3 [[User:Eire]]

::"the fourteen galactic convergences it took '''the''' Sentinel Prime expedition to"
::"The", and no possessive.
::Look, '''I''' think it's the leader of the 7/12/13 too... but the phrasing in the movie itself (which I just checked on, er... Youtube) '''isn't''' clear-cut enough to even say for certain that Sentinel Prime is an individual-- let alone that he's one of the 12! The phrasing is just... ambiguous, and the timeline is a godawful mess thanks to ROTF's 17,000 years retcon, and questions of whether the 13 in the movie are '''the''' 13 or not. (They're not. I mean... the movie fucking cut them down to 7. But until something official comes through to make it certain... it's just a collosal brain-ache that makes logical inference almost impossible.)
::Now... I ''thought'' that something... (a book or video game?) mentioned movieverse Sentinel Prime in a clearer light, but if so... it was around the time we were swamped with new stuff, and the ref never got documented. Does this sound familiar to anyone else?
::I have checked the following sources, and they do '''not''' mention Sentinel Prime in a helpful manner:
::*ROTF novelization (quote same as movie, with an added bit at the end. Nothing from Jetfire's history lesson or the Infinite White.)
::*The Movie Universe guidebook. No mention of Sentinel Prime by name
::-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The first time I heard Sentinel mentioned was in the movie. And the Sentinel Prime expedition. You'd be forgiven for presuming, and really there's no reason not too, it was named after the Prime in charge. And given the massively different origin of the Primes in the movie compared to the adaptations, it seems again logical that he's simple a predecessor of Optimus, not one of the original Primes. There is some assumptions being made, however they are logical assumptions. IF you're concerned, throw in a note at the bottom. Personally, I think it's a bit of an assumption that Sentinel in the comics is one of the original Primes, but I can see why AT put it the way he did [[User:Eire]] 13.35 Oct 13 09 (UTC)

== Fannon ==

I'm '''really''' uncomfortable witht he ammoutn of assumptions and made-up shit on this page. The cited blog post ''does'' establish Sentinel Prime to be a character-- but it doesn't ''in any way'' say he's Prime and Megatron's father, or that he's one of the original 12. And the storylink citing his death... Sentinel Prime's name isn't even MENTIONED in that issue! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:37, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
:I'm just going to risk my life here and say "Is this Shattered Glass Derik speaking?" --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:51, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Move to (DOTM)? ==

Should we move this to "Sentinel Prime (DOTM)"? We moved "Soundwave (Movie)" to [[Soundwave (ROTF)]], ignoring when he was mentioned by Starscream in the UK magazine for the first film. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:03, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:An offhand mention in the freaking UK mag letters page is not exactly the same thing as Sentinel's existence being firmly established in the Revenge of the Fallen film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:18, 11 February 2011 (EST)
::The Lord Of All Cheeses thirds the motion.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:25 PM, 15 February 2011 A.D.
:::Thirds what motion? We have one person on each side so far. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:42, 16 February 2011 (EST)
::::I'm saying this page ought to be moved. '''Alientraveler''' proposed the idea. '''Detour''' seems to be saying this guy shouldn't be in ROTF (unless I misinterpreted; he seems to say "a mention in a UK comic's letters page doesn't count as Sentinel's existence in ROTF"). '''My vote''' makes a three.
::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 9:48 PM, February 2011 A.D.
:::::Detour is pointing out that Sentinel Prime is mentioned in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' film, which counts as establishing SP's existence, so ROTF is correct. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:59, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::::::http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/Semysane/Response%20Images/748411.gif -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:59, 18 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::Sam mentions Sentinel Prime during his meltdown in the classroom in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', thus establishing Sentinel Prime exists as a character. As the first mention of Sentinel Prime is in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', his article is as "Sentinel Prime (ROTF)". Clearer? :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:13, 18 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::Oh, I got it. I just never get enough chances to use that image. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:33, 18 February 2011 (EST)
:I get that it's established wiki policy to always go with the earliest whatever, but it's very confusing to all but the most hardcore and observant RotF viewers and wiki editors (sorry for the redundancy there). In DotM he was the major plot-driving character voiced by an actor with decades of Transformers association; in RotF he was about a syllable and a half of incoherent mumbling. Unlike Arcee in the first movie franchise, S.P. didn't even get a toy in RotF. For the sake of clarity and the casual browser, might his entry be attached to the film in which he actually appears? Is there perhaps a more general title, even, to indicate immediately that this article fully encompasses the one singular character throughout the Bay films' continuity family? [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:02, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
::I think a simple redirect solves all problems. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sentinel~Vector? ==

Is it my imagination, or does Sentinel Prime bear a striking resemblence to Vector Prime?--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 01:48, 13 February 2011 (EST)
:Definitely your imagination. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 05:49, 18 February 2011 (EST)
::I see the resemblance mostly in those enormous shoulders. Beyond that, not really much of a resemblance. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 11:35, 3 March 2011 (EST)
::: Indeed. He more resembles RID Prime. [[Special:Contributions/96.247.85.33|96.247.85.33]] 00:16, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

== Sentinel Prime in Empire magazine. ==

How should we mention [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/375241-sentinel-optimus-uk-empire-cover.html these images?] --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 11:42, 3 March 2011 (EST)

== Caption ==

Live-action Hyper Goldfish? WTF is that?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 13:51, 6 March 2011 (EST)
:The Japanese version of Optimus Prime (RID) had a voice chip that sounded to some people as if it were saying "Hyper Goldfish Golfball". The Leader class Sentinel Prime looks something like the RID Prime, and is from a live action movie. Thus, Live-action Hyper Goldfish. I would recommend a crosslink in the caption, but some people hate those with an unreasoning passion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:00, 6 March 2011 (EST)
::Much thanks for the clarification. The RiD Optimus Prime page doesn't even mention the background you so helpfully supply. Is there some sort of award for most obscure caption reference on the site? [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:08, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

== Alpha Trion caption ==

How does it not work anymore?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:15, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
:Personally, I don't see why it ever worked in the first place. --[[Special:Contributions/81.164.209.246|81.164.209.246]] 13:24, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
::It never did, no. It was never an Alpha Trion homage redeco. It was just heavily-airbrushed enough to look purpleish. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
:::I think that was the joke (such as it was) that there's "already" an Alpha Trion redeco due to the purple nature of the image, which, at the time, was the only stock photo of that toy. Anyway, I replaced the photo because the colours were pretty damn wrong. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:35, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Two different Speed Stars Bumbebee two packs ==

Hey, why are there two slightly different Bumblebee Speed Stars two packs. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=69D4438D-5056-900B-1000-7E6F6EA5EAE9:en_US Item 29596] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=6EDC5079-5056-900B-10F1-6428DAB7F112:en_US item 29588]? The package art is even slightly different. Both should be listed, right? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:41, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Three sayings on the Leader toy? ==

Er... there must be something I'm doing wrong, then.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:05, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
:You have to put a MechTach weapon in his shoulder peg hole to hear them.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:12, 19 May 2011 (EDT)
::Just tried it out and it's apparently true. Still, I'm pretty sure the article should mention that little feature and how to ''enable'' it... [[Special:Contributions/58.69.69.194|58.69.69.194]] 21:43, 21 May 2011 (EDT)

== Minor design flaw? ==

On mine, it looks like the left heel pieces don't seem to line up correctly, and as such don't snap together right. Is anyone else having this issue? -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 11:07, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
:First, if I didn't have the same problem on mine, I wouldn't know which Sentinel you were talking about. Clarify a bit more next time? And yeah, mine does that too. It's flipping annoting. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:44, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
::Could one of you tell us which Sentinel Prime you are talking about? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:32, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
:::The Leader Sentinel. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 15:53, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Sorry about that. Should have clarified - the Voyager wasn't out yet when I made the first post, at least in my area, and I didn't think of that. Found another, potentially - the clips that hold the shoulders in place BREAK EASY. They're tiny and thin, which I didn't notice until the piece on the left arm fell apart while it was being transformed. Anyone else have the same issue here too? --[[Special:Contributions/71.176.28.17|King Starscream]] 14:38, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

== We need to make this a featured. ==

Any way we could come together and finish his fiction sections and whatnot? I think it's important this page is our featured this coming month, like The Fallen was for the last movie. I'm pretty okay with just promoting it anyway once July starts, even if there's some stuff left out. It just needs a spotlight. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Spoilers on Sentinel. ==

Okay, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I have seen spoilers, and there is one question I have that could seriously spoil for anyone, so be warned: Should we consider Sentinel a Decepticon? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:58, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:01, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
::My memory may be fuzzy, but doesn't he call himself a Decepticon once they take over Chicago? Or does he keep calling himself an Autobot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:13, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Sentinel makes a point of slapping Megatron around when he tries talking like they're all a happy family, so...no.[[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 18:05, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I've noticed this news actually spread on this site already (Shockwave's page pretty much blows it). Should we remove instances that we see so not to spoil the film just yet [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 10:11, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
Sentinel Prime wouldn't be the first Autobot to make a deal with the devil. {{unsigned|Dragonspike74}}

Definitely not. It might just be the way I interpreted his lines and mood but he seemed almost disgusted that he felt he had to make a deal with the Decepticons to save Cybertron. I certainly don't think he sees himself as one of them at all. Just an Autobot traitor. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.67.9|86.31.67.9]] 11:15, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

:::In the comic book adaptation, at least, he calls himself the "true leader of the Autobots", and claims that ''Optimus'' is the traitor. So, that should be absolute, explicit proof that he's considered an Autobot.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.165|192.249.47.165]] 14:08, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
::::He essentially usurps control of the Decepticons from Megatron (as evidenced by Carley statements to Megatron), commands them AS HIS OWN FORCES (And in fact the Decepticons are his only forces in the film) and tries to have all of the Autobots killed, not to mention he admits to having beleived the war to be unwinable by the Autobots thus striking a deal with Megatron and Megatron seeming to have accepted him as an equal with SENTINEL being the one trying to subdue MEGATRON.I see no reason that we shouldn't put him as a Decepticon seeing whos side he's on in the film. He doesn't seem to have any intention of commanding the Autobots at all. Sentinel's got much more of a case then Lockdown who simply sides with the Decepticons more often than the Autobots due to the higher pay they give him but still works with the Autobots like when he helps that series' Sentinel to roundup Decepticons whereas Sentinel here (as I mentioned earlier) actually takes command of the Decepticons.) --[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 04:03, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

== Caption request ==

When we start adding screenshots from the movie, can one of them use "This is the one where Spock goes crazy."?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 13:14, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
:"Goes nuts." And once the movie's been seen by more people, maybe in a week or two, that quote is TOTALLY going up at the top of the DOTM film article, same place as last movie's "I will have my revenge!" It sums up the movie pretty much the best. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:17, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

== Jerk ==

Could we mention (perhaps in a caption) that as a turncoat, this actully makes him a bigger jerk than his Animated counterpart, which I thought was impossible.[[User:Burnout|Burnout]] 17:39, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
:That joke was tired two years ago.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:08, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
:I was thinking the same thing actually. I think it'd be good in the Notes section since it looks like the type of thing people put there (aside from actual trivia). I'd say go for it regardless of how old the Joke is, it doesn't make it any less applicable. I was thinking that a similar mention would be good on Animated Sentinel's page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 04:09, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
Hey, I thought he was BIG jerk too.(Never seen the movie though.)
Maybe Sentinel(TFA) wanted to get revenge on Optimus(TFA).
So, he decided to get a role on Dark of the Moon.
His audition was successful. All he needed to do was change his alternate mode to make sure nobody knew it was him.
When the moment was right he could get revenge on Optimus(For stealing his fifteen stellar cycles of fame).
However,on set he was killed. And it was caught on film!
Let's just say there is more than meets the eye with Sentinel.

== Back Kibble ==
What exactly are those things? I swear in parts of the movie, they wiggled as if some kind of flexible cape or tank-treads.. what part of the vehicle do they correspond to?
:On the Leader Class toy, the kibble hanging off his back in robot mode (which, I agree, looks like a cape of some kind) becomes the side panels of his vehicle mode. [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 22:42, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

I've plugged in a mechtech weapon on the back Sentinel's head. He looks a little funny with Barricade's weapon sticking up. {{unsigned|Dragonspike74}}

== About the Genesis Caption... ==

I don't get it...can anyone explain?[[User:Kaine852|Kaine852]] 00:29, 7 July 2011 (EDT)
:It's a line from Mr. Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan. Spock was played by Leonard Nimoy, who voiced Sentinel Prime. I'm more curious about why it's used on two different images. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:44, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

== 316 meaning? ==
Is there a particular meaning or significance to the number 316 on SP's vehicle mode? Seems lately like anything of that sort on a TF is an in-joke or reference (Wal-Mart "84" DotM Bumblebee, anyone?). I'm in the dark on this one, though. -- [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:46, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
:[[wikipedia: John 3:16]] Stone Cold used to reference it back in the 90s, etc. [[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 20:06, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::While that is a meaning for 316, I'm not sure if it is relevant here. Do you really think that the person who designed Sentinel Prime's deco was thinking of that when the number was selected? He or she could have meant it that way, but I'd like official confirmation.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:13, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::You're right; John 3:16 may be the most widely known association for the number, but it doesn't seem to fit here. It's not a biblical verse that's particularly relevant to the story of this Sentinel Prime... If they were going for biblical references I'd expect something about a deal with the devil or about the ends justifying the means, something related to the DotM plot. Unless it's known that the designer(s) for SP is/are devout Christians/big pro wrestling fans? A Steve Austin joke is fine for a caption, but as yet the connection seems a bit tenuous for the wiki proper. -- [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 15:39, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:::The Hasbro designers probably didn't known the film's twist so they innocently played up the Optimus/Jesus analogy with Sentinel as The Father, unaware he was just another Evil Mentor-type. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:42, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Aren't the same numbers on his vehicle mode in the movie? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:52, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::[http://brusimm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Transformers-3-Sentinal-Prime-alternate-vehicle-mode-on-set.jpg Why, yes they are]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:54, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:Maybe it means he scanned № 316 fire truck. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:58, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:316 is the area code for Wichita, Kansas, if that means anything. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:45, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

== Can we... ==
Can we add something about him being the Einstein of his civilisation? Something along the lines of "Sentinel was once known as the Einstein of his planet. That's not exactly wrong [[Wheeljack (Movie)|but...]] --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
:"He was the Einstein of his civilization." "I thought that guy who looked like Einstein was the Einstein of his civilization?" [[Special:Contributions/207.255.27.100|207.255.27.100]] 13:45, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

== Design Refrence ==

I've noticed that Sentinal Primes design kinda looks Robots In Disquise Optimus. Think this was intentional? {{unsigned|Captain-lelouch|05:30, 17 August 2011 (EDT)}}
:It does? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:33, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
::Not really. They share similar altmodes, but that comes with the territory of being a fire truck. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:42, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
I was thinking the alt. mode, the standered window-moobs for all Primes, and the lader being on RID Optimus's Battle Mode's back looks kind of like Sentinal's cape --[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 07:15, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
: Not even if RID Prime had window moobs in his combined form. It's a coincidence. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:00, 30 September 2011 (EDT)
: You've successfully convinced me that Sentinel Prime is directly based on G1 Inferno, as opposed to my previous theory that he was directly based on Rescue Roy. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 16:07, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

== Decepticon Or Not==
Since the movie's out on DVD and Blueray now I'm putting it out in the open: Why aren't we putting Sentinel as a Decepticon. I know the last time it was discussed someone mentioned how he reffered to himself as "true leader of the Autobots" and someone else said he seemed disgusted at making a deal with the cons. BUT despite this the way I see it he not only joined up with the Decepticons, he pretty much took complete CONTROL over them. The reason we see Megatron sulking when Carly comes up to him is because Sentinel took over his forces; Sentinel's giving the orders. Sentinel also wouldn't be the first turncoat to claim to keep his own faction (and this doesn't even happen in the movie as I recall) but have the wiki still label him the opposite; Armada Starscream was considered by both himself AND his new allies to be a con is still listed as an Autobot for the four or so eps he was with them. I would even go so far as to say Sentinel can be considered a Decepticon Leader all things considered.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 13:44, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

:'''''NO.'''''
:But you raise a good question. Why ''do'' we have an Autobot symbol on Armada Starscream's page?

I think he should count as a Con.Yes he only allied himself with them and then pretty much took them over and '''''still''''' called himself an Autobot,but he should have a Con symbole.I mean G1 Starscream has a Predacon symbole even if he was a Pred for '''''1''''' '''''episode''''' of beast wars.And the North American version of the Headmasters and Targetmaster are Nebulans who allied themselves with the different transformers factions and still got the faction symboles of whichever side they where with.Just look at Vorath for example,it says Decepticon-'''''allied''''' Nebulan. --[[User:Gamemaster|Gamemaster]] 22:07, 15 December 2011 (EDT)

No he's not a Decepticon. He just allies with them against the other Autobots. He doesn't actually join the Decepticon club and geta membership card or anything. In the Marvel UK Comics Carnivac turned against the Decepticons but he clearly refused membership in the Autobots despite staying with them. Sentinel is an Autobot traitor but that doesn't automatically qualify him to be a Decepticon. [[Special:Contributions/82.27.5.237|82.27.5.237]] 08:18, 30 December 2011 (EST)
==Animated==
I guess everyone already knows this, but should we mention in the notes section that Sentinel's sword-thing and sheiled are a reference to [[Sentinel Prime(Animated]]? It might actually just be a coincidence, but I think it was done on purpose.

Talk:Predatory

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This episode only features three voice actors. Would this be some kind of record? [[Special:Contributions/82.15.246.28|82.15.246.28]] 21:33, 16 April 2011 (EDT)

Does anyone else think a fair bit of this episode was a homage to the Proving Grounds episode of Beast Wars? It centred heavily on Black Arachnia stalking and being stalked by Dinobot through a similar forest setting.
: I don't think Blackarachnia was in this episode. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:23, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::While I don't think it's necessarily worth mentioning on the page (yet), I got a "Blackarachnia crossed with Maleficent" vibe off her design.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 01:32, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

I'm not saying Black Arachnia was in this episode... Just that this was very similar to the episode featuring her from Beast Wars. --[[Special:Contributions/82.33.98.221|82.33.98.221]] 11:26, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Personally I question if people understand what a reference is. A similar situation is NOT a reference. For example, Jack hiding under a log is NOT a reference to Lord of the Rings. Also, the slow down fight in Darkness Rising Part IV is NOT a reference to Saving Private Ryan. A reference is an intentional nod towards previously existing stories. "The first rule of robot fight club is you don't talk about robot fight club" IS a reference.

== Arcee and the "spider web" thingy ==

In this episode we see Arcee pinned on a rock wall by Airachnid's "spider web" at least twice. 
The first time she succeeded to free an arm -thanks to her blade- and fire off a shot to her opponent. Why couldn't she do the same thing the second time? 
Should this be mentioned in the section "trivia" as well? [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 14:55, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

If you look carefully, the first time Arcee gets stuck, the webbing is right in front of her arm, allowing her reach to cut. The second time she is stuck, it is her HAND that is trapped. There is in fact no webbing in front of her arm, meaning she had no way of actually cutting it.
:Yeah, eventually I noticed that too. I watched again the episode the last night, and I could see that. Thanks for pointing it out anyway. [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 07:12, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

==Jacks helmet==

Jacks helmet just kinda… showing up might not be an animation error, per se. Given that she technically doesn't need gas, Arcees "gas tank" may instead be a storage compartment, much like the one on say, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aprilia_Mana_850 Aprilia Mana 850], which has enough room for a full face helmet. Of course, this is just pure, rampant speculation from a motorcycle junkie, but it might be worth mentioning. [[User:CelticNinja|CelticNinja]] 22:17, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:She has two helmets stashed in there somewhere. Sierra used one last episode. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:24, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::They come from the same place that 80% of her body does when she transforms to robot mode. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:32, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

== what does Arcee say about the sniper at the artillery depot ==

I'm a Chinese fan of tf, and using on line resources have been following the new series. but the lines said by Arcee running in the ruined buildings were lost to me, I can't make them out. so i was wondering if i may get some help from here?
i really appreciate if any one could help me out here. Thank you

:Arcee: "Arcee to Delta Team, requesting coordinates, do you copy?"
:Tailgate: "Arcee, you lost again? Your sense of direction could use some improvement."
:Arcee: "So could your aim, Tailgate. If you'd tagged that sniper back at the artillery depot, I wouldn't have had to break rank and engage the enemy hand-to-hand."
:Tailgate: "From the sound of things, I'm guessing you came out ahead?"
:Arcee: "Try waiting up for me this time, and I'll give you the blow-by-blow. What's your position?"
:Tailgate: "About half a click from the depot, due north. Think you can find it, partner?"
:Arcee: "Trust me, Tailgate. My navigational abilities are--"
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:20, 18 April 2011 (EDT)

Deeply obliged. i owe you one zillion ^_^ Thank you
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== Edit Blocked ==

I want to add information about foreign localization, but I cannot edit this page.
Would anybody add this between "Real-world references" and "Trivia" section?
<pre>
===Foreign localization===
'''Korean'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Geomi ui Sanyang'''" (거미의 사냥, "Spider's Hunt")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 4|4 October]] [[2011]]
</pre>
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:Added. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

Also noteworthy is that this is the first episode not to feature any scenes inside the Autobot base. Could someone please add this [[User:Flydie|Flydie]] 08:01, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
:That's coincidence, not noteworthiness.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 10:45, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
Still it seems like the type of thing we note here. [[User:Flydie|Flydie]] 13:44, 23 November 2011 (EST)
==Flashbacks==
This is the first of the many future flashbacks in which Cliffjumper reappears. Should that be added as trivia, and if so, could someone do that?[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

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Talk:Cliffjumper (WFC)

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Talk:Urbana 500

2012-03-13T23:26:46Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx:

Let's get a screencap of the Urbana commercial in here. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 11:21, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

Should we note that the Urbana 500 seems like a parody to the Chrysler 300? The Urbana logo sort of looks like the Chrysler logo,too.[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:26, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Bumblebee (WFC)

2012-03-13T23:15:14Z

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[[Image:BumblebeePrimecarmode.jpg|thumb|"''No one'' would expect a spy and scout to be neon yellow! Bumblebee, you're a genius!"]]

==Clown Car==
The part referred to in the line "In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and HALF of the Autobots get out. Weird." in the notes section is a take on something called a "Clown Car" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clown_car as thus, should be edited to something more clearly stating it

==Is Bumblebee a boxer?==
It seems to me that 'Bee's fighting style is very much like pro boxing. Looking at him (especially his arms), he even seems to be built a boxer. Should this be noted?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 1:30 PM, 9 April 2011 A.D.

I think so. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 17:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:I don't. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::Seeing as it's conjecture, it's not needed. --[[User:RavenFB|RavenFB]] 11:07, 19 June 2011 (CDT)

==Query==
Is Bumblebee just a generic Muscle Car? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 22:18, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

== Two Different Bumblebee Toys ==

There will be two different toys for Bumblebee in Prime. The First Edition is already noted on the page, but the Robots In Disquise version is not. The RID version (Wave 1) will feature a slightly differnt transformation and two arm guns instead of one. I think this should be noted.

==Axel==
Why the mention of Axel Frazier? Is this just "Hasbro insists all continuities are one, so Rescue Bots BB is also Prime BB," or something else? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 16:48, 9 January 2012 (EST)
: [[Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28Prime%29#Aligned.3F]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Talk:Bumblebee (WFC)

2012-03-13T23:14:50Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx: /* Two Different Bumblebee Toys */

[[Image:BumblebeePrimecarmode.jpg|thumb|"''No one'' would expect a spy and scout to be neon yellow! Bumblebee, you're a genius!"]]

==Clown Car==
The part referred to in the line "In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and HALF of the Autobots get out. Weird." in the notes section is a take on something called a "Clown Car" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clown_car as thus, should be edited to something more clearly stating it

==Is Bumblebee a boxer?==
It seems to me that 'Bee's fighting style is very much like pro boxing. Looking at him (especially his arms), he even seems to be built a boxer. Should this be noted?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 1:30 PM, 9 April 2011 A.D.

I think so. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 17:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:I don't. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::Seeing as it's conjecture, it's not needed. --[[User:RavenFB|RavenFB]] 11:07, 19 June 2011 (CDT)

==Query==
Is Bumblebee just a generic Muscle Car? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 22:18, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

== Two Different Bumblebee Toys ==

There will be two different toys for Bumblebee in Prime. The First Edition is already noted on the page, but the Robots In Disquise version is not. The RID version (Wave 1) will feature a slightly differnt transformation and two arm guns instead of one. I think this should be noted.

Yes,it should. All the toys with RiD versions are noted.

==Axel==
Why the mention of Axel Frazier? Is this just "Hasbro insists all continuities are one, so Rescue Bots BB is also Prime BB," or something else? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 16:48, 9 January 2012 (EST)
: [[Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28Prime%29#Aligned.3F]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)

Talk:Bumblebee (WFC)

2012-03-13T23:14:19Z

XxxOUTBURSTxxx: /* Two Different Bumblebee Toys */

[[Image:BumblebeePrimecarmode.jpg|thumb|"''No one'' would expect a spy and scout to be neon yellow! Bumblebee, you're a genius!"]]

==Clown Car==
The part referred to in the line "In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and HALF of the Autobots get out. Weird." in the notes section is a take on something called a "Clown Car" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clown_car as thus, should be edited to something more clearly stating it

==Is Bumblebee a boxer?==
It seems to me that 'Bee's fighting style is very much like pro boxing. Looking at him (especially his arms), he even seems to be built a boxer. Should this be noted?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 1:30 PM, 9 April 2011 A.D.

I think so. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 17:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:I don't. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::Seeing as it's conjecture, it's not needed. --[[User:RavenFB|RavenFB]] 11:07, 19 June 2011 (CDT)

==Query==
Is Bumblebee just a generic Muscle Car? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 22:18, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

== Two Different Bumblebee Toys ==

There will be two different toys for Bumblebee in Prime. The First Edition is already noted on the page, but the Robots In Disquise version is not. The RID version (Wave 1) will feature a slightly differnt transformation and two arm guns instead of one. I think this should be noted.
Yes,it should. All the toys with RiD versions are noted.

==Axel==
Why the mention of Axel Frazier? Is this just "Hasbro insists all continuities are one, so Rescue Bots BB is also Prime BB," or something else? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 16:48, 9 January 2012 (EST)
: [[Talk:Optimus_Prime_%28Prime%29#Aligned.3F]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)