https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=YellowCorvette MediaWiki - User contributions [en] 2026-07-09T15:30:49Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers_R.E.D.&diff=1657493 Transformers R.E.D. 2022-12-15T13:47:05Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig3|Red}}<br /> [[File:Robot Enhanced Design Logo.jpg|thumb|300px|Stronger, Faster, and Alive once more!]]<br /> '''''Transformers R.E.D.''''', stylized as '''''R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]''''', is a [[subline imprint|subline]] of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[franchises|franchise]], and a line of six-inch scale non-transforming action figures of Transformers characters from across different [[franchises]] and [[continuity|continuities]]. It is intended to be a counterpart to Hasbro's other 6-inch action figure lines, including ''[[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Legends'', ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]: Black Series'', and ''Power Rangers: Lightning Collection''. Aesthetically, the line focuses on [[show-accuracy]] in its sculpts. Figures in the line also include extra hands and accessories for display options. The line was also seemingly inspired by Bandai's concurrent line of ''Gundam Universe'' Gundam action figures which make its debut around the same time as well.<br /> <br /> The toyline is a [[Walmart]] exclusive in the US and Canada; they were later made available on [[Hasbro Pulse]] in limited quantities.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> {| style=&quot;margin-left:1em;&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 1'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron]] (''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Prime]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Soundwave]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 2'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Arcee (WFC)#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Arcee]] (''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'')}}<br /> {{Bp-m1|[[Cheetor (BW)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Cheetor]] (''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 3'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Bumblebee]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Coronation Starscream]] (''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 4'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#ReformattingMegatron|Reformatting Megatron]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}<br /> {{Bp-m1|[[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Primal]] (''Beast Wars'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; rowspan=2|[[File:TF-R.E.D.-Arcee.jpg|thumb|upright=1|''Prime'' Arcee]]<br /> |-<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 5'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Knock Out (Prime)#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Knock Out]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Ultra Magnus]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 6'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Galvatron]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Shockwave]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 7'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (WFC)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (WFC)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Prime]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Thundercracker]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Beginning with the seventh wave, the packaging design for ''R.E.D.'' was changed as part of Hasbro's new environmental policies, removing the plastic window in favour of a closed cardboard front featuring each character's packaging art. The front-right side of each box, which used to include a window showing the toy's accessories, now features a simulation of the window printed directly onto the packaging.<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Red}}<br /> [[Category:Generations toylines]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers_R.E.D.&diff=1657492 Transformers R.E.D. 2022-12-15T13:46:24Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig3|Red}}<br /> [[File:Robot Enhanced Design Logo.jpg|thumb|300px|Stronger, Faster, and Alive once more!]]<br /> '''''Transformers R.E.D.''''', stylized as '''''R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]''''', is a [[subline imprint|subline]] of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[franchises|franchise]], and a line of six-inch scale non-transforming action figures of Transformers characters from across different [[franchises]] and [[continuity|continuities]]. It is intended to be a counterpart to Hasbro's other 6-inch action figure lines, including ''[[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Legends'', ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]: Black Series'', and ''Power Rangers: Lightning Collection''. Aesthetically, the line focuses on [[show-accuracy]] in its sculpts. Figures in the line also include extra hands and accessories for display options. The line was also seemingly inspired by Bandai's concurrent line of Gundam Universe Gundam action figures which make its debut around the same time as well.<br /> <br /> The toyline is a [[Walmart]] exclusive in the US and Canada; they were later made available on [[Hasbro Pulse]] in limited quantities.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> {| style=&quot;margin-left:1em;&quot; width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 1'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron]] (''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Prime]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Soundwave]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 2'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Arcee (WFC)#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Arcee]] (''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'')}}<br /> {{Bp-m1|[[Cheetor (BW)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Cheetor]] (''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 3'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Bumblebee]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Coronation Starscream]] (''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 4'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#ReformattingMegatron|Reformatting Megatron]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}<br /> {{Bp-m1|[[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Primal]] (''Beast Wars'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot; rowspan=2|[[File:TF-R.E.D.-Arcee.jpg|thumb|upright=1|''Prime'' Arcee]]<br /> |-<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 5'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Knock Out (Prime)#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Knock Out]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Ultra Magnus]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 6'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Galvatron]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Shockwave]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |width=&quot;20%&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;|&lt;u&gt;'''Wave 7'''&lt;/u&gt;<br /> &lt;ul class=&quot;iconlist&quot;&gt;<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (WFC)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (WFC)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Prime]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}<br /> {{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Thundercracker]] (''Transformers'')}}<br /> &lt;/ul&gt;<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Beginning with the seventh wave, the packaging design for ''R.E.D.'' was changed as part of Hasbro's new environmental policies, removing the plastic window in favour of a closed cardboard front featuring each character's packaging art. The front-right side of each box, which used to include a window showing the toy's accessories, now features a simulation of the window printed directly onto the packaging.<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Red}}<br /> [[Category:Generations toylines]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Y%C3%85%C2%ABichi_Nakamura&diff=1650844 YÅ«ichi Nakamura 2022-11-13T14:20:31Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Yuichi Nakamura.jpeg|thumb|300px|''&quot;Arrivederci.&quot;'']]<br /> '''Yūichi Nakamura''' (中村 悠一 ''Nakamura Yūichi'', born [[February 20]], [[1980]]) is a prolific Japanese voice actor. Among his many roles are Beet J. Stag in ''Go-Busters'', Bruno Bucciarati in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind'', Gray Fullbuster in ''Fairy Tail'', Greed in ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', Graham Aker in ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00'', N in ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'', Golden Ryan in ''Tiger &amp; Bunny: The Rising'', Kevin Washington in ''Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance'', Dinosaur Ryusaki/Rex Raptor in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'', Mumen Rider in ''One Punch-Man'' and Kyohei Kadota in ''Durarara!!''. <br /> <br /> In the world of dubbing, he's the official voice of [[Captain America]] (Chris Evans) in all the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Cinematic Universe movies, Liam Hemsworth's dub voice across numerous films (such as ''The Hunger Games'' franchise), Prince Orm/Ocean Master in ''Aquaman'' and Garble the dragon in ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''<br /> <br /> ==Voice Roles==<br /> ===Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns===<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]]<br /> *[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure''===<br /> *[[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure -Prime of Micron-''===<br /> *Steeljaw<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Not only have Yuichi Nakamura and [[Troy Baker]] shared the role of Steeljaw, they also shared the role of Greed in ''FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1697606/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 IMDB entry]<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15878 Anime News Network entry]<br /> *{{w|Yuichi Nakamura (voice actor)|Wikipedia entry}}<br /> *[http://myanimelist.net/people/513/Yuuichi_Nakamura My Anime List entry]<br /> *[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/yuichi-nakamura/ Behind The Voice Actors entry]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Nakamura, Yuichi}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Actas_Inc.&diff=1650799 Actas Inc. 2022-11-13T05:17:19Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[image:Actas New Logo 2019.jpg|300px|right|]]<br /> <br /> Established in 1999 from former [[Ashi Productions]] animators, '''Actas Inc.''' (株式会社アクタス ''Kabushiki-gaisha Actus'') is a Japanese studio that produced the animation for ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]'', ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Robot Masters]]'', the hand-drawn animation for ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]'' and in-between animation for ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''. They have done such shows as ''éX-Driver'', ''Shin Megami Tensei Devil Children'' (with [[TMS Entertainment]]), ''Mermaid My Melody'', ''D.C. ~Da Capo~'', ''Girls und Panzer'', ''Princess Principal'', ''Long Riders'', and others.<br /> <br /> They did not animate the Japanese [[title sequence]] for ''Transformers: Armada'', however, which was done by [[Raretrick]].<br /> <br /> In 2017, Actas Inc. was acquired by Bandai Visual, which is currently a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Filmworks}} (Formerly known as ''Sunrise. Inc''), which in turn is also a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Holdings}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.actas-inc.co.jp/ Official website of Actas Inc. (in Japanese)]<br /> *{{w|アクタス|Japanese Wiki article}} (Japanese)<br /> <br /> {{businessstub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animation companies]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ironhide_(G1)/toys&diff=1650797 Ironhide (G1)/toys 2022-11-13T05:12:32Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Studio Series */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is what Ironhide's toys took 32 years to look like.]]<br /> <br /> '''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]''' is a bot of many toys, all of which are tough customers.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> [[File:G1 Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Kōjin Ōno]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was part of the original assortment of [[Autobot]] cars released in 1984, transforming into a red Nissan Sunny-Vanette Coach SGL and sharing his mold with the contemporaneously released [[Ratchet (G1)/toys|Ratchet]]. Ironhide splits when he transforms, with most of the rear section of his van mode transforming into a [[Onebox component|battle platform]], and the remainder becoming his rather misshapen, headless robot form. The robot can mount onto the battle platform, which is armed with a raising missile launcher and front-mounted &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;. Unusually for toys of this period, the Static Laser Gun can actually store when Ironhide is in vehicle mode, plugging into his undercarriage (although the missiles for his launcher and the peg required to attach the laser don't go anywhere).<br /> <br /> :As with all his fellow Autobot Cars from that year, Ironhide's mold derived from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, a series which was ''not'' about sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines. The Ironhide and Ratchet molds are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this: in place of a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. The figures did include [[sticker]]s to go over these seats that depicted a sort of robot face, but when Ironhide and Ratchet's [[character model]]s were created for ''Transformers'' media, all traces of the human-controlled design were removed to give the robots proper faces and heads, ultimately creating the two designs which diverged the most from the toys on which they were ostensibly based. <br /> <br /> :The stripe on the side of his vehicle mode (a sticker on the toy) is actually based on a special edition of the Nissan Cherry Vanette. On the real vehicle, the rear section (which is black on the toy's sticker) is actually the sliding rear door rail.&lt;ref name=&quot;stripe&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/438046-g1-ironhides-stripes-explained.html &quot;G1 Ironhide's Stripes...EXPLAINED!&quot;] at TFW2005&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : For unknown reasons, Ironhide was the only Autobot Car not released by Takara as part of their [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|original retail line]] in any form (while Ratchet was not available at retail, he was available as a [[S.T.A.R.S.]] mail away item). Ironhide was reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-ironhide/71/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Ironhide at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1984/instr_ironhide.jpg Instruction booklet for Ironhide at Botchthecrab.com]''<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|90sClassic}}<br /> [[File:G1toy classic heroes ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Gold box Onebox]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Classic Heroes, [[1990]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :The original Ironhide toy was first reissued in 1990 alongside several other early Transformers as part of the European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|''Classics'']] range. He was functionally identical to his original release.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generation 2''===<br /> [[File:G2Gobot Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Not a Gateway.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Go-Bot, [[1995]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on Generation 1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle construction for his wheels, he is compatible with most &quot;Hot Wheels&quot; and &quot;Matchbox&quot; play sets and tracks. <br /> <br /> : The mold is a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)/toys|Hoist]].<br /> <br /> : The toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] to be a [[Ironhide (G2)|&quot;next-generation&quot; clone of Ironhide]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Go-Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''{{G2MotormouthMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|PowerMaster}}<br /> [[File:G2-toy IronhidePM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Technically always in vehicle mode!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> <br /> :[[Power Master]] Ironhide transforms into a khaki camouflaged-and-armored Humvee. His main gimmick is his &quot;Power Master&quot; pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.<br /> <br /> :The Power Masters were the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and were only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address. They also conspicuously lack any mention of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in their stamped-on [[copyright]] information.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/IronhideEur/ironhide.htm More information on Power Master Ironhide at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Beast Wars''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-bw-magnaboss-toy.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Yes, this Alien-faced monstrosity certainly screams out &quot;G1 Ironhide&quot;! Who could possibly think otherwise?!]]<br /> *'''Magnaboss''' (Ultra Class three-pack, [[1997]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> {{note|The elephant Ironhide toy represents both the original Autobot and a [[Ironhide (BW)|latter-day Maximal]].}}<br /> <br /> : ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Ironhide transforms from an elephant via a rather complex process involving numerous hinges and unfolding panels into a rather stumpy robot. Although dumpy, he is nothing if not well-armed: he has a flip-out spike at the end of each arm, and comes with two removable guns that flip out from behind his elephant mode ears, and which can be plugged into the holes at the ends of his arms. Ironhide is packaged with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and combines with them to form his [[Magnaboss (BW)#Toys|Magnaboss]]. Ironhide forms the bulk of the combiner's mass, including all four limbs.<br /> <br /> :The Magnaboss toy included no information about its three components beyond their names. In 2007, [[IDW Publishing]] decided to retroactively establish that the trio were the ''Generation 1'' characters of the same names, and included this revelation in their ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]''.<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon#Toys|Santon]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Beast Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Collector's Edition''===<br /> [[File:G1toy collectors edition ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[June]] [[2001]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''98'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was made available in Japan for the first time as part of the ''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition|Collector's Edition]]'' line of reissues, available exclusively from online retailer [[e-HOBBY]] in a two-pack with mold-mate Ratchet. As the first Japanese edition of Ironhide, this was the first time the toy had been given a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]].<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Timelines''===<br /> [[File:TL-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Red, red, and also red.]]<br /> *'''Descent into Evil''' (Multi-figure boxset, 2005)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Radar assembly/energon weapon, battle sled<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Ironhide is a [[retool]]ing and [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)#Toys|Tow-Line]], transforming from a van of indeterminate, probably made-up model, into a robot and separate treaded [[Onebox component|battle sled]], each featuring [[powerlinx]] ports that allow them to combine with any other compatible Deluxe or Mega from the ''Energon'' toyline. Ironhide himself forms the &quot;torso&quot; in such a combination (armed with small guns that flip out from his feet to become over-shoulder blasters), while his battle sled becomes the &quot;legs&quot; for another robot. And of course, Ironhide can powerlinx with his own battle sled. <br /> <br /> : He was only available in the [[BotCon 2005]] exclusive ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' boxset, which also includes [[Buzzclaw (G1)#Toys|Buzzclaw]], [[Chromia (G1)#Timelines|Chromia]], [[Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)#Toys|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)#Timelines|Fallback]], and [[Ricochet (Timelines)#Toys|Ricochet]].<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's retooled mold was also used to make ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ratchet]]; they shared a new head mold, which combined elements of both of their designs, including Ironhide's head crest and Ratchet's forehead chevron. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Timelines Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:Encoretoy-Ironhidewithhead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His head problem just became a shoulders problem.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2007]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's original Generation 1 toy was made available again in mid-December 2007 as part of Takara's ongoing ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' line of [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]]. This version was distinguished by the inclusion of a &quot;head&quot; of sorts for the figure: one of the toy's box flaps featured an illustration of Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield which could be punched out along its perforated edges, and then slotted behind the toy's windshield. This hid the &quot;chair-face&quot; of the original toy and gave Ironhide his cartoon face... at the cost of making his arms appear to grow out of his waist.<br /> <br /> :This version of the toy was [[retool]]ed to add a pair of &quot;clips&quot; to the [[Onebox component|mobile platform]]'s gun-base, designed to keep Ironhide more securely attached when riding it. However, these clips are right where a pair of decals normally go. Additionally, like the original Japanese release of the figure (but [[for safety reasons|unlike Hasbro's version]]), the missile launcher now fires.<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|black}}<br /> [[File:G1toy protect black ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Once you go black, you go back to red shortly afterwards.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Protect Black''' ([[2008]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Tied in to Ironhide's ''Encore'' reissue was e-HOBBY's [[exclusive]] &quot;New Year Special&quot; [[redeco]] of the figure: Ironhide Protect Black (アイアンハイドプロテクトブラック). The toy was priced at 4725 yen, and pre-orders were taken until [[January 11]], 2008, with a shipping date of April 2008.<br /> <br /> :The new [[bio]] accompanying the release of the toy notes that Ironhide acquired this protective black coating to disguise himself from both Decepticons and members of the [[human]] criminal underworld, to better allow him to do his job as Optimus Prime's bodyguard. The bio also gives a name to the &quot;mode&quot; that consists of Ironhide standing atop his artillery platform, dubbing it his &quot;Marauder Mode&quot;. <br /> <br /> :[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=034000000005&amp;search=%A5%A2%A5%A4%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%C9 According to e-HOBBY], the black coloration is meant to [[homage]] the original ''Diaclone'' toy which became Ironhide, but between the release of Ratchet Emergency Green and the bio's reference to black pickup trucks, it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys|live-action movie Ironhide]]. The packaging is the same as the regular ''Encore'' Ironhide's.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Cybertron/ProtectBlackIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Protect Black Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2008)===<br /> [[File:TFU08-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, I found my head! And that makes me sad.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008)<br /> **''Series'': Classic Series<br /> **''Accessories'': &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; gun/blade<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> : As the first new-mold Ironhide toy designed to resemble the original character, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Ironhide transforms into a red SUV of made-up model. His chest features an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like gimmick that sees mechanical detailing rise up behind his chestplate when his bumper is lowered. He is armed with a double-ended &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; weapon, which deploys a translucent melee blade from one end, and a gatling cannon from the other. Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand ''can'' in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> <br /> : His [[stock photography]] (seen [[:File:Universe 2008 Ironhide Toy.jpg|here]]) shows him with a silver face and hubcaps, but as the final product shows, that didn't happen. While Hasbro claimed there would be a [[Variant|running change]] that would have the face in silver, no such change occurred. Speaking of packaging, Ironhide was also the first new ''Universe'' figure to have [[package art]] that wasn't burdened with [[dull surprise]].<br /> <br /> :As a nod to the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Generation 1 comics, Ironhide's license plate reads &quot;OREGON&quot;—the place that the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' crash-landed and the bulk of the first half of the comic takes place.<br /> <br /> : The figure has a couple of production flaws. Due to a combination of three places on the figure having too much plastic, Ironhide's head assembly does not have the clearance to rise up fully, and it ends up looking like he's hanging his head in shame. However, with some heavy tinkering, the head can be raised to a more level, straight position [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transtopia-fix-universe-20-ironhides-low-self-esteem/14298/]. The paint on the car roof has also been reported to rub off over time, and can have a sticky feel to it.<br /> <br /> : This mold was retooled to make [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Ratchet]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Ratchet]] (surprising absolutely no one), plus [[BotCon 2012]]'s [[Soundwave (SG)#TLSoundwave|Sir Soundwave]]. This toy also served as the model for the [[Ironhide (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation]] of Ironhide.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Universe Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Henkei! Henkei!''===<br /> [[File:Henkei Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He still has the head, and the stripe too.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008-[[November 20|11-20]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''C-11'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Converting Cannon<br /> <br /> :''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ironhide is a redeco of ''Universe'' Ironhide, with a view to making him far more accurate to his [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] appearance. To this end, a generally darker shade of red plastic and lighter gray plastic are used. Additionally, the blue paint used for his opaque windows is a better match to his transparent blue windows than on Hasbro's ''Universe'' toy. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, Ironhide features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] silver for his headlights, brake lights and his Converting Cannon housing.<br /> <br /> :Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand can in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> :Same as the Universe version, or on Henkei Prowl, this mold too suffers from the paint on the car roof turning sticky even on room temperatures and coming off.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|&quot;I tell you what, you can take a safety course, and if you're still interested in guns after they've taken all the fun out of it, we'll go to the tournament.&quot;]]<br /> *'''Destruction Site Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''560'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : After being teased for over a year (see below), a [[Kreon]] Ironhide finally came out as part of the biggest ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' set yet. Based on the original character's cartoon model, Kreon Ironhide is the lone defender of a construction site playset against four full-sized [[Constructicon (Kre-O)|Constructicon]] brick-bots; [[Scrapper (Kre-O)|Scrapper]], [[Drill Bit (Kre-O)|Drill Bit]], [[Scavenger (Kre-O)|Scavenger]], and [[Hightower (Kre-O)|Hightower]].<br /> <br /> :He is in so much trouble.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|TRUDevastator}}<br /> [[File:Kre-O Autobot Assault Devastator set.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Autobot Assault Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''781'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Gunner, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : A [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] version of the [[Devastator (Kre-O)|Devastator]] set comes with both a Kreon Ironhide and a full-build brick Ironhide, which can be rebuilt from an armored pickup truck (calling back to the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'' [[Ironhide (WFC)|incarnation of the character]], itself modeled after the [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action film version]]) into a robot. The robot/truck build also features twin pressure-launch missile launchers, and a bonus human [[Gunner]] Kreon.<br /> <br /> :He is in slightly less trouble now.<br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Custom}}<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideCustomKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Custom Kreon, 2013)<br /> **''Set number'': '''A6086'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''38'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Rack, large cannon, disruptor pistol, gripper-claw, double-bladed staff<br /> <br /> : Part of the first assortment of &quot;Custom Kreons&quot;, this version of Ironhide comes with a buildable parts rack on which to hang/store his many many extra pieces. His [[tampograph]]s are much more heavily-detailed than the original Kreon, based on the [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 1|original Ironhide toy]]. His &quot;normal&quot; helmet and large cannon (originally from ''Kre-O [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'') are [[chrome]]d, plus he comes with an extra clear-plastic helmet, torso and legs. He also has a pair of extra arms (originally from the ''Kre-O Battleship'' aliens), plus a buildable cannon based around the aforementioned chrome gun, a small pistol (originally a [[Klingon]] disruptor from ''Kre-O [[Star Trek]]''), a bendable gripping-claw, and a double-headed staff weapon.<br /> <br /> : Take extreme care with the chrome rifle/clear-plastic barrel combination, as attaching the two pieces will pretty much guarantee stress fractures on the clear-plastic barrel.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SDCC2014}}<br /> [[File:SDCC2014_KreonClassof1984_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, 2014)<br /> **''Set number'': '''B0090'''<br /> **''Voted'': Best Bot to Bring Home to [[Primus]]<br /> **''Accessories'': Assault rifle<br /> <br /> : This version of Ironhide, has a different set of toy-based tampographs (with a very cartoon-based face), though his plastic colors are based more on the original cartoon model. He has oddly been given a [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Wheeljack]] wing-pack, despite neither the toy or cartoon giving him wings.<br /> <br /> :He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the &quot;[[Kreon Class of 1984]]&quot;. Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Class of 1984 Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BattleChanger}}<br /> [[File:BattleChangerIronhide.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Battle Changers, 2017)<br /> **''Set Number'': '''B5586/B0714'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''73'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Sniper rifle<br /> <br /> :Popped outta nowhere without any announcement from Hasbro itself, Battle Changer Ironhide is a brick-built robot centered around a modified Kreon torso, transforming from robot to off-road truck and back without removing any parts. <br /> <br /> : Like his wavemate [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#BattleChanger|Megatron]], he was only available at &quot;discount&quot; stores, first appearing at Dollar General, and then [[Walgreens]] for the holiday season.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Bot Shots''===<br /> [[File:BotShots launcher Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Launcher''' (Launcher, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''BL003'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''505'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''235'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''880'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 launchers, Ironhide is a teeny pickup truck (with spoiler) with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his front bumper is pressed. He has a &quot;spinner&quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His alternate mode and chest design are based on [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie Ironhide]], with his head being based on the original Generation 1 Ironhide. <br /> <br /> :He comes with a large trailer that pops open into a battle station with a pair of articulated buzzsaw-arms, and a spring-loaded vehicle launching ramp. The cannons on top of the trailer are based on live-action movie Ironhide's cannons.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)#Bot Shots|Super Bot Dirt Boss]], [[Hound (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Blitz Shot Autobot Hound]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Bot Shots|Swindle]]. His main truck body, arms, and legs are also used by [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Autobot Ratchet]] and [[First Aid (G1)#Bot Shots|Protectobot First Aid]]. His launcher was redecoed into ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' Ratchet's [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#RescueBase|Rescue Base]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSLIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Launcher Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3packSuperBot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots 3pack Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Decepticon Brawl / Shockwave / Ironhide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''Super Bot 007'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''305 '''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''970'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''350'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a &quot;Super Bot&quot; [[redeco]] of Ironhide, meaning he is cast in translucent plastic and has more lopsided strength ratings. He comes with [[Brawl (Movie)#BotShotS13Pack|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Shockwave (Movie)#Bot Shots|Shockwave]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Super Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Single}}<br /> [[File:BotShots single Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B012'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''500'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''670'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''450'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''Bot Shots'' single-packs, this is a live-action movie-style redeco of Ironhide in black and bluish-silver, with orange windows.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on single-pack Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SpinShot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots Spinshot Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B002'''<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hisao Nishimoto]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> ::*''Fist strength'': '''845'''<br /> ::*''Blaster strength'': '''210'''<br /> ::*''Sword strength'': '''570'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 single-packs, Ironhide is a new Spin Shot version decoed in red not unlike ''Generation 1'' Ironhide. As a Spin Shot, one manually winds up his upper body beforehand when transforming him into vehicle mode, where striking the front of the vehicle will cause him to burst open and spin while auto-transforming.<br /> <br /> :This mold was redecoed into [[Kup (G1)/toys|Sergeant Kup]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Spin Shot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BotShotPolarAssaultTeam}}<br /> [[File:BotShots PolarAssault Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I've heard of snow tires but ''this'' is ridiculous!]]<br /> *'''Polar Assault Team''' (Multi-pack, 2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''T004'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''750'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''265'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''600'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 five-packs, this redeco of the original Ironhide toy in bluish dark-grey, with white wheels and orange eyes. He comes in a five pack with similarly-themed redecos of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Mirage]], and [[Jetfire (G1)#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Jetfire]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSPAIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Polar Assault Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ===''BeCool''===<br /> [[File:BotShots_BeCool_BlackOffRoadCarIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Black Off Road Car (Ironhide)''' (2012)<br /> **''ID number'': '''B10'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' &quot;Black Off Road Car&quot; is practically identical to the single-packed black ''Bot Shots'' Ironhide toy, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode off-roading, a tire and a wrench.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Construct-Bots''===<br /> [[File:Construct-bot_ironhide_stock.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|A truck... sure, sure...]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Scout, 2013)<br /> **''Pieces: '''45'''<br /> : Part of Wave 1 of Construct-Bots Scouts, Ironhide can transform into a truck. Most of his parts debuted with him, however his head is a retool of [[Blitzwing (G1)#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]'s, switching his angry face with a grin. His large gun is also from Blitzwing.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CBIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Construct-Bots'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Specialist}}<br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generationstoy specialist ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Specialist: Autobots''' (Multi-pack, [[March 25]], 2014)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Converting cannon<br /> <br /> :''Universe'' Ironhide was re-released in a three-pack with ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]] and ''Universe'' [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]], available from Hasbro Asia and [[TakaraTomy Mall]]. All three Autobots feature new metallic paint decos, and the set's [[package art]] links up to the contemporaneously-released &quot;Specialist: Decepticons&quot; set to form a complete image. At selected stores in Asia, the set was available with a free Autobot insignia earphone cap plug.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Combiner Wars''===<br /> [[File:CWDlxIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't expect him to be repainted with [[Offroad (CW)|black/grey colors]] with [[Ironhide (Movie)|cannons]] added. [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Really]].]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2015)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Axe, &quot;super-cooled nitrogen/white-hot molten lead&quot; dual cannon/hand/foot/engine<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ironhide is a redeco/new-head retool of [[Offroad (CW)#Toys|Decepticon Offroad]], which transforms from a 4x4 double-cab pickup truck which is reminiscent of his [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] to robot and back! As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe figure he can form a combined-mode limb for any Voyager Class toys from the same subline or any ''Unite Warriors'' figure or into one of [[Godbomber#Legends|''Legends'' Godbomber]]'s legs but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sunstreaker, Mirage, Prowl, and Optimus Prime to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Toys|Optimus Maximus]]. He is also officially associated with [[Betatron (CW)|Betatron]] and [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]. A sticker sheet was sold at [[BotCon 2016]] to enhance Ironhide's resemblance to the original ''Beast Wars'' figure. <br /> <br /> :He includes a [[5 mm post|5mm handle]] axe weapon, and a larger accessory that can form a hand or foot in limb mode, a gun for robot mode, and can be mounted on a tab in the vehicle mode's truck bed to form a giant engine block. In an unadvertised feature, the peg on his engine weapon is the right size to mount a [[Mini-Con]] on.<br /> <br /> :While the front hood/windshields are needed to be folded as kneecaps for his leg mode, the piece also sticks out automatically if he collides to Optimus Prime/Motormaster's (or and of Hot Spot's redecoes/retools) protruding foot while the legs are being swiveled in his standing position, unless the leg joints are bent down to lessen the problem.<br /> <br /> : Hilariously, the robot mode [[stock photography|stock photo]] depicting a hand-painted [[prototype]] that's featured on the back of the toy's packaging is missing the wheel on his right leg.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide is packed with the comic book &quot;[[First Contact (IDW)|First Contact]]&quot;, rebranded as ''Combiner Wars'' #15. In Canada, Latin America, and Europe, he was available in different types of [[multilingual packaging]] including a character card featuring his comic book cover/[[package art]] instead. He and the last three waves of Combiner Wars Deluxe and Voyager figures later started showing up at TJ Maxx at reduced prices with the collector card.<br /> <br /> :As a part of the third and fourth wave promotion in Hasbro's Asian markets, a free sticker sheet for the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] was given out when purchasing any four Deluxe Class toys from those waves. As such, Ironhide was given Generation 1 toy-esque stickers for the owner to apply if they wanted.&lt;ref&gt;[https://news.tfw2005.com/2015/08/28/transformers-combiner-wars-sticker-sheet-for-wave-3-and-4-figures-300471 Protectobot and Optimus Maximus sticker promotion on TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The original sculpt was redecoed as [[Ruckus (G1)#Generations|Grabuge]], heavily retooled as [[First Aid (G1)#Generations|First Aid]] and differently retooled as [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Trailbreaker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I run on Propane and propane accessories.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2016]]-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QTF-07'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ironhide transforms from a licensed [[super deformed]] Toyota HiAce to a cute grumpy little robot.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Q-Transformers'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:MP27-Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|The G1 Ironhide you always wanted. Except with hip kibble. And a beer gut. And a long face.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2016-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-27'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 Laser pistols, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, missile, 2 alternate hands, 4 nozzles, wrist [[sonodar]], chest screen, jetpack, 2 flare effects, battle sled, 2 faces<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> : ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ironhide is a new mold that transforms into a licensed Cherry Vanette. He is in the standard Masterpiece [[scale]] (since [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-9]]), standing between MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|Convoy]] and MP-12 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Lambor]] in bot mode and can fit inside [[Combat Deck (G1)#MP10|Convoy's trailer]] in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> : He comes with a bunch of accessories referencing many of the gadgets he used in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Ironhide's [[character model]] did not include any weapons or other extra tools or devices, meaning there was little to no consistency in the depiction of his armament in the series; as such, the toy picks and chooses from the many weapons and accoutrements he was seen using. He includes a pair of generic Autobot laser pistols of the same design as the gun that came with ''Masterpiece'' Bumblebee (which Ironhide began using in &quot;[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]&quot;) which can be stored on the underside of his vehicle mode, a larger gun based on his original toy's Static Laser Gun (similar weapons having been seen in &quot;[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]&quot; and &quot;[[A Prime Problem]]&quot;), a set of alternate hands representing his ability to spray liquids through his fingertips (done in multiple episodes), a set of nozzles that can be exchanged for his hands based on those seen in &quot;[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]&quot;, a second set of nozzles based not on anything from the cartoon, but on the ''connector peg'' for his Static Laser Gun from his original toy, the back-mounded missile launcher from &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; based on his original toy's launcher, his wrist-mounted sonodar sensor dish from &quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&quot;, complimented by a readout image of dinosaur bones that can be slipped behind his windshield, and the jetpack seen in &quot;[[The Immobilizer]]&quot;, complete with jet-flare effects. A peg hole on the roof of his vehicle mode can hold one of the laser pistols or the Static Laser Gun.<br /> <br /> :Since ''Masterpiece'' Ironhide's robot mode incorporates the entire vehicle mode, a separate &quot;battle sled&quot; piece has been included, based on the component of the original toy, that can store all of Ironhide's accessories, including a second face piece that stores on the underside of the sled. In an additional nod to the original G1 toy, specifically its lack of a proper head, there is a sculpted detail resembling the &quot;face&quot; decal that went on the seat of the original toy that is visible through the windshield in van mode, that gets tucked away in robot mode.<br /> <br /> : There have been reports that the first release of the mold's chrome parts suffer from early corrosion similar to the issues encountered with the initial MP-5 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MP5|Megatron]].<br /> <br /> :If purchased from a seller supplied by Hasbro Asia, Ironhide includes a collector coin, mounted in a card which resembles the front of his van mode. It may have also included a [[die-cast]] drill accessory, based on the one he used in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot;. The drill accessory came in a small case styled to resemble a tool case.&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/14/masterpiece-ironhide-asia-exclusive-drill-accessory-images-324829 Masterpiece Ironhide Asia exclusive drill accessory images]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Masterpiece'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Unite Warriors''===<br /> [[File:TF-UW05-Ironhide.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]<br /> *'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (giftset, [[February 27]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''UW-05'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Weapons, 4 Gun/Fist/Foots<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Unite Warriors|Convoy Grand Prime]] set, Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). <br /> <br /> :Compared to the ''Combiner Wars'' release, Ironhide has numerous changes in deco to better match his look in the Generation 1 cartoon: While he shares an identical paint mask to the ''Combiner Wars'' figure, his black [[Unpaintable plastic|unpaintable parts]] are now in the same shade of light grey. Other changes include the stripes being yellow-y orange, a black paint is added on the front roof, and his gunmetal paint on the hood &amp; wheel rims are now silver.<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===<br /> [[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally, the (good) Classics Ironhide we've all wanted!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2019]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-S21'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-17'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[April 27]], 2019'''<br /> **''Hidden message code'': '''TRITHYLLIUM'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher&quot;<br /> :Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Ironhide transforms from robot to Cybertronian van and back. His vehicle mode takes several design cues from ''Titans Return'' [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]], though it shares no parts or engineering with the mold. In keeping with the ''War For Cybertron'' trilogy's concerns with scale, Ironhide is a full head taller than most of his Deluxe-priced mates. He includes a gigantic missile launcher cannon called the &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher,&quot; compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]], that can also convert into an equally gigantic hammer. As with all non-gimmick ''Siege'' figures, Ironhide features &lt;!--a more subdued color scheme than his other figures, as well as--&gt; &quot;battle damage&quot; paint applications on his lower shins, feet, and weapon. He also features multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate &quot;Fire Blasts&quot; from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. <br /> <br /> :Ironhide suffers from a production flaw that causes the molded hinges on his legs to be too small to properly house the side panels from his vehicle mode, causing them to pop off at the slightest pressure. This can be resolved by removing the panels and using a small screwdriver to carefully widen the pegholes, which creates enough clearance to properly house the panels within the hinges.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Deseeus Army Drone#Toys|Deseeus Army Drone]], given a new head as [[Crosshairs (G1)#Generations|Crosshairs]], and retooled into [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ratchet]]. The mold was also extensively retooled into ''Earthrise'' Ironhide (below).<br /> <br /> ::*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xU9CKYarz4 Official conversion video at the TRANSFORMERS OFFICIAL YouTube channel]''<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===<br /> [[File:TF-Generations-WFC-E-Autobot-Alliance-2-Pack-Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The '''better''' Classics Ironhide we truly want.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Alliance 2-Pack''' (Multi-pack, [[2020]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-E31'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''ER EX-18'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 20]], [[2021]]'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Pistol, Roof/Shield<br /> {{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Released in the &quot;Autobot Alliance&quot; 2-Pack with [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Prowl]] in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' toyline, Ironhide is an extensive retooling of his ''Siege'' counterpart, transforming into a van similar to his original Nissan mode. He features a new chest/windshield, bumper, lower arms, and leg panels, as well as a roof piece that converts into a shield in robot mode. While similar to the Siege version's head, the toy's head is also new, remolded to have less detailing and to be more cartoon accurate. In lieu of the Doomblast Forge Launcher (which this figure can wield if you wish), the shield can also become a giant four-barreled cannon. For a little extra firepower, Ironhide also comes with a smaller pistol. Conveniently, this gun can be stored on the underside of the shield, tucking away neatly in van mode.<br /> <br /> :Although the figure features molded windows in van mode, said windows lack any paint, tampographs, or decals for color, which causes inconsistencies when combined with the translucent plastic from the roof to complete them. Similar to the ''Siege'' iteration, the figure's robot mode feet stick out conspicuously from the van mode's backside. Lastly, Ironhide's red color is visibly inconsistent throughout the combined figure, with some parts appearing more pink than red against the darker red pieces.<br /> <br /> :The Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; is sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]. ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]] includes ''Earthrise'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Cliffjumper]]'s bazooka redecoed in green, matching Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, effectively adding another weapon to this Ironhide toy's arsenal.<br /> <br /> :The map piece that comes with Ironhide and Prowl is the mysterious [[Nebulan|Nebulon]] Station.<br /> <br /> :This pack was exclusive to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] in the United States, Canada and Europe.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Generations Selects]] [[DK-2 Guard]].<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Studio Series''===<br /> [[File:TF-Studio-Series-86-Voyager-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The '''BEST''' Classics Ironhide we could possibly g– where's the stripe?]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''Movie'': '''''The Transformers: The Movie'''''<br /> **''Hasbro ID number'': '''86-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 laser pistols, &quot;Decepticon Shuttle Ambush&quot; backdrop<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Redone at the Voyager Class price point, ''[[Studio Series]]'' Ironhide is an attempt to improve the faults of the ''Earthrise'' version (while also being a general retail item instead of an [[Amazon]] exclusive). Though he is a similar size to that previous toy, the advanced transformation engineering means he doesn't have feet sticking out of the back of the vehicle mode, and requires no [[Partsformer|partsforming]].<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, he lacks the signature yellow stripe on the sides of his vehicle mode. Unpainted translucent blue tabs also stick out the top of the vehicle mode roof, likely meant to secure a lightbar for a future Ratchet retool.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide comes with dual laser pistols, which can store on his back, on the back of his legs, on top of his van mode, or under it as exhaust pipes. <br /> <br /> :Just like his previous ''Siege'' and ''Earthrise'' counterparts, Ironhide's Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; (which was sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]); as well as ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]]'s green bazooka (which was reminiscent of Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;) can both be used with this figure, even though these weapons cannot accommodate with Ironhide's vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide also includes a display backdrop depicting the scene from the '86 movie where he made his last stand against invading Decepticons aboard the Autobot Shuttle.<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Ironhide decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9|Rubber-hide]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (Decoy multi-pack, 1985)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Decoy, 1987)<br /> **''Decoy number'': 7<br /> <br /> : The Ironhide figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Decoy Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Super Collection Figure''===<br /> [[File:SCF Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ironhide had torso reduction surgery for this role.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2001)<br /> **''Act'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand<br /> <br /> : A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Ironhide was available in the third &quot;act&quot; of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. His pistol and nozzle-tipped-fingers left hand are modeled after his appearance in &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&quot;, though the pistol is painted black rather than light gray as in the episode. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless clear plastic version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.<br /> <br /> : In two out of every ten cases, the full-color version of Ironhide came packaged with the left leg of the wave's collectable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Fortress Maximus]] &quot;build-a-figure&quot;. This part itself could be in either full color or clear plastic, packed at an equal 1:1 ratio.<br /> <br /> : This figure was slightly [[retool]]ed to make ''SCF'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Ratchet]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/SCFIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/ClearIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide (Clear Version) on TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Heroes of Cybertron''===<br /> [[File:HOC Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2003)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's ''Super Collection Figure'' PVC was released the following year by Hasbro in the third wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide was given a [[light-piping]] gimmick by being cast entirely in translucent blue plastic then painted everywhere except on his eyes and the back of his head. <br /> <br /> : Unlike the Japanese version, he was sold separate on a blister card, and came with a [[bio]] card packed in the bubble.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Hard Hero===<br /> [[File:HardHero G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Go, Simba! Join the circle of life!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2002)<br /> <br /> : This cold-cast porcelain 6-inch tall bust was sculpted by Jason Ray, and is based very heavily upon Ironhide's cartoon appearance. A signed artist's proof version was available, limited to 100 pieces.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Attacktix''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-atx.jpg|thumb|[[Signal Lancer]] would soon rethink teaming up with Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Booster, &lt;s&gt;2007&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was likely to have been one of several ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' Booster pieces. Though displayed as part of the ''Attacktix'' display at the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' &quot;Celebration IV&quot; convention, he —and all the other pieces revealed at the show— were ultimately never released.<br /> <br /> {{canceledattacktix}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Boss Coffee===<br /> [[File:BossCoffee ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :A non-transforming PVC figure of Ironhide was released as part of a promotion by [[Boss Coffee]]. The small figure was randomly included with single cans of the company's &quot;Rainbow Mountain Blend&quot; coffee, contained in a plastic capsule affixed to the top of can which then became a display base for the figurine once removed. Ironhide features articulation at the shoulders and waist, and came with a small catalog leaflet that could be folded up and attached to the lid/base to form a diorama background for added display value.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br /> [[File:DiamondSelect G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Proof that EVERY Wave 1 Autobot had a shoulder cannon.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2009)<br /> <br /> :Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Ironhide was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. This detailed bust is based on Ironhide's (you guessed it) cartoon/comic model, but with much more detailing and with elements of his toy design. These include his vehicle sled's missile launcher mounted on his shoulder, his wielding of his sled's static laser gun and his original Diaclone &quot;face&quot; being present behind his windshield. In addition to the missile launcher being removable his open left hand can be replaced with a hand gripping his cartoon pistol for two handed &quot;chop busting.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Robot Heroes''===<br /> [[File:Robotheroesironhidekickback.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Stop copying me!&quot; &quot;Stop copying me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Ironhide &amp; Kickback''' (Two-pack, 2008)<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Part of the &quot;Generation 1 Series&quot; of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this adorably happy figurine of Ironhide is ready to pound his packmate [[Kickback (G1)#Robot Heroes|Kickback]] into metal filings. He features articulation in his neck and shoulders.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Figure Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF-Transformers-Figure-Collection-Ironhide-Decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|''Rubber-hide ver.2.0'']]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (01-2016)<br /> <br /> :Standing 42mm tall, ''Transformers Figure Collection'' Ironhide is a non-poseable soft-rubber figure based on a [[Decoy]] figure.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Bitfig===<br /> [[File:Bitfig-Ironhide.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (06-2017)<br /> <br /> Part of the second wave of Transformers Bitfig capsule toys.<br /> Ironhide's design is inspired by his appearance in the G1 cartoon, and is articulated at the neck and shoulders.<br /> Bitfig toys were packaged in capsules color coded to the toy they contained.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===''Keshi Surprise''===<br /> *'''Autobots''' (2018)<br /> <br /> :The ''[[Keshi Surprise]]'' series by [[Super7]] consisted of 1.75&quot; soft rubber figures in a style deliberately resembling the 1980s [[Decoy]]s. These [[blind-packed]] figures were sold individually or in cases depicting only their faction. Ironhide was available in red, yellow, blue, and purple and included a foil trading sticker.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===<br /> [[File:W1SIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' (2018)<br /> **'''Wave 1S: Starter Set''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T02/T04'''<br /> **''Stars: ''6<br /> :'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' is one of four double-sided character cards available in the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Starter Set.<br /> <br /> :The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W2Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''UT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T28/T46'''<br /> **''Stars: ''7<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler was released as part of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners. Like all other members of [[combiner]] teams released in the set, Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler is a folding card, with the Bot and Alt modes being depicted when the card is folded in half, and a holofoil portion of the the combined mode depicted when unfolded. The reverse of Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler depicts the lower left portion of [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus']], of whom Ironhide forms the left leg. <br /> <br /> :The artwork for Alt Mode is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game, while the Bot Mode artwork uses the [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]] Ironhide figure's packaging art.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler can be used to form Optimus Maximus, Ultimate Defender with the use of the Action card [[Enigma of Combination|Sentinel Enigma]] while he and the other Wave 2 Sentinels are in Bot mode on the battlefield and/or KO area.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W3CaptainIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T03/T48'''<br /> **''Stars: ''9<br /> :Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.<br /> <br /> :The card's artwork is based on the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Ironhide toy, with the Bot Mode artwork being reused from the toy's packaging art, and original artwork for Alt Mode, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]] and colors by [[Gunship Rev]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Imaginarium Art===<br /> [[File:ImaginariumMegatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Irondied]]<br /> *'''Megatron''' (2019)<br /> **''Accessories'': Energy flail<br /> <br /> :[[Imaginarium Art]]'s [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise|Megatron]] statue stands 25 inches tall atop a base of Ironhide's dead body. The eyes and fusion cannon can light up. Only 500 were produced. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Eaglemoss===<br /> * '''Transformers Gen-1 Chess Set''' (&lt;s&gt;2021&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> :In the planned [[Chess#Eaglemoss|Transformers Chess Set]] by [[Eaglemoss]], a relatively large and very well detailed statue of Iron Hide {{sic}} was slated to be one of the Rook pieces on the Autobot side.<br /> <br /> :A Kickstarter campaign to raise the necessary funds for this project was launched, but failed to meet its goal by September 24, 2021 and the whole thing was canceled.<br /> {{canceledtoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Pop!''===<br /> '''Ironhide''' ([[Funko Pop!#Digital Pop! NFTs|Digital ''Pop!'']], 2022)<br /> *''Rarity:''<br /> **''Monochrome:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Static:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Glowing:'' '''Uncommon'''<br /> **''Chrome:'' '''Rare'''<br /> **''Original'': '''Epic'''<br /> :{{W|Non-fungible token|NFT}}s depicting Ironhide in the [[Funko Pop!|Funko]] style.<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery heights=200&gt;<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_MONOCHROME.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_STATIC.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_UNCOMMON_IRONHIDE_GLOW.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_RARE_IRONHIDE_REDCHROME.gif|Chromehide<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_EPIC_IRONHIDE_ORIGINAL.gif<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Jada Toys===<br /> [[File:JadaNanoMetalfigsG1-18pack.jpg|upright=1.44|thumb]]<br /> *'''Transformers Series 1 18-pack''' (4cm Die Cast Figure Multipack, 2022)<br /> :Released by [[Jada Toys]], ''Nano Metalfigs'' Ironhide is an incredibly small die-cast figurine molded doing an action pose. He has a little base attached to his feet for balancing reasons.<br /> <br /> :He comes in an impressive multipack with [[Jada Toys#Nano Metalfigs|seventeen other figurines]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Icon Heroes===<br /> *'''Grimlock X Ironhide Retro Pin Set''' (2022)<br /> : A hard enamel pin based on Ironhide's original G1 package art made by Icon Heroes. It comes carded with a [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Icon Heroes|Grimlock]] pin.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:Generation2LightSpeed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|You have to be pretty desperate to copy Blowout's motto.]]<br /> *The black ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Ironhide was sold by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in North America as the ''[[Diakron]]'' &quot;DK-2&quot; Car/Robot in 1983, seemingly just a few months before he would be rebranded as a Transformer.<br /> *An early version of [[Power Master]] Ironhide's artwork in blue and yellow was used on packaging mock-ups displayed around [[Hasbro]]'s headquarters bearing the names &quot;Light Speed&quot;, &quot;Belzone&quot;, and &quot;Pothole&quot;, though no release of these toys was ever intended.<br /> *A mock-up of a new [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] toy in the form of a ''Universe'' (2008) Ironhide redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Camshaft claimed only 1.6% of the votes, leaving him in second-to-last place.&lt;ref&gt;[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *In the first year of ''[[Kre-O]]'', long before Devastator's set was released, an Ironhide Kreon was included in a turntable display of Kreons found in some retail outlets, often labeled as Sideswipe. He taunted you.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Attacktix]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Bitfig]]<br /> [[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Construct-Bots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! 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Ironhide splits when he transforms, with most of the rear section of his van mode transforming into a [[Onebox component|battle platform]], and the remainder becoming his rather misshapen, headless robot form. The robot can mount onto the battle platform, which is armed with a raising missile launcher and front-mounted &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;. Unusually for toys of this period, the Static Laser Gun can actually store when Ironhide is in vehicle mode, plugging into his undercarriage (although the missiles for his launcher and the peg required to attach the laser don't go anywhere).<br /> <br /> :As with all his fellow Autobot Cars from that year, Ironhide's mold derived from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, a series which was ''not'' about sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines. The Ironhide and Ratchet molds are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this: in place of a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. The figures did include [[sticker]]s to go over these seats that depicted a sort of robot face, but when Ironhide and Ratchet's [[character model]]s were created for ''Transformers'' media, all traces of the human-controlled design were removed to give the robots proper faces and heads, ultimately creating the two designs which diverged the most from the toys on which they were ostensibly based. <br /> <br /> :The stripe on the side of his vehicle mode (a sticker on the toy) is actually based on a special edition of the Nissan Cherry Vanette. On the real vehicle, the rear section (which is black on the toy's sticker) is actually the sliding rear door rail.&lt;ref name=&quot;stripe&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/438046-g1-ironhides-stripes-explained.html &quot;G1 Ironhide's Stripes...EXPLAINED!&quot;] at TFW2005&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : For unknown reasons, Ironhide was the only Autobot Car not released by Takara as part of their [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|original retail line]] in any form (while Ratchet was not available at retail, he was available as a [[S.T.A.R.S.]] mail away item). Ironhide was reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-ironhide/71/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Ironhide at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1984/instr_ironhide.jpg Instruction booklet for Ironhide at Botchthecrab.com]''<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|90sClassic}}<br /> [[File:G1toy classic heroes ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Gold box Onebox]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Classic Heroes, [[1990]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :The original Ironhide toy was first reissued in 1990 alongside several other early Transformers as part of the European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|''Classics'']] range. He was functionally identical to his original release.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generation 2''===<br /> [[File:G2Gobot Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Not a Gateway.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Go-Bot, [[1995]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on Generation 1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle construction for his wheels, he is compatible with most &quot;Hot Wheels&quot; and &quot;Matchbox&quot; play sets and tracks. <br /> <br /> : The mold is a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)/toys|Hoist]].<br /> <br /> : The toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] to be a [[Ironhide (G2)|&quot;next-generation&quot; clone of Ironhide]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Go-Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''{{G2MotormouthMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|PowerMaster}}<br /> [[File:G2-toy IronhidePM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Technically always in vehicle mode!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> <br /> :[[Power Master]] Ironhide transforms into a khaki camouflaged-and-armored Humvee. His main gimmick is his &quot;Power Master&quot; pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.<br /> <br /> :The Power Masters were the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and were only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address. They also conspicuously lack any mention of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in their stamped-on [[copyright]] information.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/IronhideEur/ironhide.htm More information on Power Master Ironhide at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Beast Wars''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-bw-magnaboss-toy.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Yes, this Alien-faced monstrosity certainly screams out &quot;G1 Ironhide&quot;! Who could possibly think otherwise?!]]<br /> *'''Magnaboss''' (Ultra Class three-pack, [[1997]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> {{note|The elephant Ironhide toy represents both the original Autobot and a [[Ironhide (BW)|latter-day Maximal]].}}<br /> <br /> : ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Ironhide transforms from an elephant via a rather complex process involving numerous hinges and unfolding panels into a rather stumpy robot. Although dumpy, he is nothing if not well-armed: he has a flip-out spike at the end of each arm, and comes with two removable guns that flip out from behind his elephant mode ears, and which can be plugged into the holes at the ends of his arms. Ironhide is packaged with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and combines with them to form his [[Magnaboss (BW)#Toys|Magnaboss]]. Ironhide forms the bulk of the combiner's mass, including all four limbs.<br /> <br /> :The Magnaboss toy included no information about its three components beyond their names. In 2007, [[IDW Publishing]] decided to retroactively establish that the trio were the ''Generation 1'' characters of the same names, and included this revelation in their ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]''.<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon#Toys|Santon]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Beast Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Collector's Edition''===<br /> [[File:G1toy collectors edition ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[June]] [[2001]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''98'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was made available in Japan for the first time as part of the ''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition|Collector's Edition]]'' line of reissues, available exclusively from online retailer [[e-HOBBY]] in a two-pack with mold-mate Ratchet. As the first Japanese edition of Ironhide, this was the first time the toy had been given a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]].<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Timelines''===<br /> [[File:TL-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Red, red, and also red.]]<br /> *'''Descent into Evil''' (Multi-figure boxset, 2005)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Radar assembly/energon weapon, battle sled<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Ironhide is a [[retool]]ing and [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)#Toys|Tow-Line]], transforming from a van of indeterminate, probably made-up model, into a robot and separate treaded [[Onebox component|battle sled]], each featuring [[powerlinx]] ports that allow them to combine with any other compatible Deluxe or Mega from the ''Energon'' toyline. Ironhide himself forms the &quot;torso&quot; in such a combination (armed with small guns that flip out from his feet to become over-shoulder blasters), while his battle sled becomes the &quot;legs&quot; for another robot. And of course, Ironhide can powerlinx with his own battle sled. <br /> <br /> : He was only available in the [[BotCon 2005]] exclusive ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' boxset, which also includes [[Buzzclaw (G1)#Toys|Buzzclaw]], [[Chromia (G1)#Timelines|Chromia]], [[Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)#Toys|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)#Timelines|Fallback]], and [[Ricochet (Timelines)#Toys|Ricochet]].<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's retooled mold was also used to make ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ratchet]]; they shared a new head mold, which combined elements of both of their designs, including Ironhide's head crest and Ratchet's forehead chevron. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Timelines Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:Encoretoy-Ironhidewithhead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His head problem just became a shoulders problem.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2007]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's original Generation 1 toy was made available again in mid-December 2007 as part of Takara's ongoing ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' line of [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]]. This version was distinguished by the inclusion of a &quot;head&quot; of sorts for the figure: one of the toy's box flaps featured an illustration of Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield which could be punched out along its perforated edges, and then slotted behind the toy's windshield. This hid the &quot;chair-face&quot; of the original toy and gave Ironhide his cartoon face... at the cost of making his arms appear to grow out of his waist.<br /> <br /> :This version of the toy was [[retool]]ed to add a pair of &quot;clips&quot; to the [[Onebox component|mobile platform]]'s gun-base, designed to keep Ironhide more securely attached when riding it. However, these clips are right where a pair of decals normally go. Additionally, like the original Japanese release of the figure (but [[for safety reasons|unlike Hasbro's version]]), the missile launcher now fires.<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|black}}<br /> [[File:G1toy protect black ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Once you go black, you go back to red shortly afterwards.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Protect Black''' ([[2008]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Tied in to Ironhide's ''Encore'' reissue was e-HOBBY's [[exclusive]] &quot;New Year Special&quot; [[redeco]] of the figure: Ironhide Protect Black (アイアンハイドプロテクトブラック). The toy was priced at 4725 yen, and pre-orders were taken until [[January 11]], 2008, with a shipping date of April 2008.<br /> <br /> :The new [[bio]] accompanying the release of the toy notes that Ironhide acquired this protective black coating to disguise himself from both Decepticons and members of the [[human]] criminal underworld, to better allow him to do his job as Optimus Prime's bodyguard. The bio also gives a name to the &quot;mode&quot; that consists of Ironhide standing atop his artillery platform, dubbing it his &quot;Marauder Mode&quot;. <br /> <br /> :[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=034000000005&amp;search=%A5%A2%A5%A4%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%C9 According to e-HOBBY], the black coloration is meant to [[homage]] the original ''Diaclone'' toy which became Ironhide, but between the release of Ratchet Emergency Green and the bio's reference to black pickup trucks, it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys|live-action movie Ironhide]]. The packaging is the same as the regular ''Encore'' Ironhide's.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Cybertron/ProtectBlackIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Protect Black Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2008)===<br /> [[File:TFU08-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, I found my head! And that makes me sad.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008)<br /> **''Series'': Classic Series<br /> **''Accessories'': &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; gun/blade<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> : As the first new-mold Ironhide toy designed to resemble the original character, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Ironhide transforms into a red SUV of made-up model. His chest features an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like gimmick that sees mechanical detailing rise up behind his chestplate when his bumper is lowered. He is armed with a double-ended &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; weapon, which deploys a translucent melee blade from one end, and a gatling cannon from the other. Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand ''can'' in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> <br /> : His [[stock photography]] (seen [[:File:Universe 2008 Ironhide Toy.jpg|here]]) shows him with a silver face and hubcaps, but as the final product shows, that didn't happen. While Hasbro claimed there would be a [[Variant|running change]] that would have the face in silver, no such change occurred. Speaking of packaging, Ironhide was also the first new ''Universe'' figure to have [[package art]] that wasn't burdened with [[dull surprise]].<br /> <br /> :As a nod to the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Generation 1 comics, Ironhide's license plate reads &quot;OREGON&quot;—the place that the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' crash-landed and the bulk of the first half of the comic takes place.<br /> <br /> : The figure has a couple of production flaws. Due to a combination of three places on the figure having too much plastic, Ironhide's head assembly does not have the clearance to rise up fully, and it ends up looking like he's hanging his head in shame. However, with some heavy tinkering, the head can be raised to a more level, straight position [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transtopia-fix-universe-20-ironhides-low-self-esteem/14298/]. The paint on the car roof has also been reported to rub off over time, and can have a sticky feel to it.<br /> <br /> : This mold was retooled to make [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Ratchet]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Ratchet]] (surprising absolutely no one), plus [[BotCon 2012]]'s [[Soundwave (SG)#TLSoundwave|Sir Soundwave]]. This toy also served as the model for the [[Ironhide (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation]] of Ironhide.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Universe Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Henkei! Henkei!''===<br /> [[File:Henkei Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He still has the head, and the stripe too.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008-[[November 20|11-20]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''C-11'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Converting Cannon<br /> <br /> :''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ironhide is a redeco of ''Universe'' Ironhide, with a view to making him far more accurate to his [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] appearance. To this end, a generally darker shade of red plastic and lighter gray plastic are used. Additionally, the blue paint used for his opaque windows is a better match to his transparent blue windows than on Hasbro's ''Universe'' toy. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, Ironhide features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] silver for his headlights, brake lights and his Converting Cannon housing.<br /> <br /> :Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand can in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> :Same as the Universe version, or on Henkei Prowl, this mold too suffers from the paint on the car roof turning sticky even on room temperatures and coming off.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|&quot;I tell you what, you can take a safety course, and if you're still interested in guns after they've taken all the fun out of it, we'll go to the tournament.&quot;]]<br /> *'''Destruction Site Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''560'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : After being teased for over a year (see below), a [[Kreon]] Ironhide finally came out as part of the biggest ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' set yet. Based on the original character's cartoon model, Kreon Ironhide is the lone defender of a construction site playset against four full-sized [[Constructicon (Kre-O)|Constructicon]] brick-bots; [[Scrapper (Kre-O)|Scrapper]], [[Drill Bit (Kre-O)|Drill Bit]], [[Scavenger (Kre-O)|Scavenger]], and [[Hightower (Kre-O)|Hightower]].<br /> <br /> :He is in so much trouble.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|TRUDevastator}}<br /> [[File:Kre-O Autobot Assault Devastator set.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Autobot Assault Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''781'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Gunner, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : A [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] version of the [[Devastator (Kre-O)|Devastator]] set comes with both a Kreon Ironhide and a full-build brick Ironhide, which can be rebuilt from an armored pickup truck (calling back to the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'' [[Ironhide (WFC)|incarnation of the character]], itself modeled after the [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action film version]]) into a robot. The robot/truck build also features twin pressure-launch missile launchers, and a bonus human [[Gunner]] Kreon.<br /> <br /> :He is in slightly less trouble now.<br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Custom}}<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideCustomKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Custom Kreon, 2013)<br /> **''Set number'': '''A6086'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''38'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Rack, large cannon, disruptor pistol, gripper-claw, double-bladed staff<br /> <br /> : Part of the first assortment of &quot;Custom Kreons&quot;, this version of Ironhide comes with a buildable parts rack on which to hang/store his many many extra pieces. His [[tampograph]]s are much more heavily-detailed than the original Kreon, based on the [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 1|original Ironhide toy]]. His &quot;normal&quot; helmet and large cannon (originally from ''Kre-O [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'') are [[chrome]]d, plus he comes with an extra clear-plastic helmet, torso and legs. He also has a pair of extra arms (originally from the ''Kre-O Battleship'' aliens), plus a buildable cannon based around the aforementioned chrome gun, a small pistol (originally a [[Klingon]] disruptor from ''Kre-O [[Star Trek]]''), a bendable gripping-claw, and a double-headed staff weapon.<br /> <br /> : Take extreme care with the chrome rifle/clear-plastic barrel combination, as attaching the two pieces will pretty much guarantee stress fractures on the clear-plastic barrel.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SDCC2014}}<br /> [[File:SDCC2014_KreonClassof1984_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, 2014)<br /> **''Set number'': '''B0090'''<br /> **''Voted'': Best Bot to Bring Home to [[Primus]]<br /> **''Accessories'': Assault rifle<br /> <br /> : This version of Ironhide, has a different set of toy-based tampographs (with a very cartoon-based face), though his plastic colors are based more on the original cartoon model. He has oddly been given a [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Wheeljack]] wing-pack, despite neither the toy or cartoon giving him wings.<br /> <br /> :He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the &quot;[[Kreon Class of 1984]]&quot;. Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Class of 1984 Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BattleChanger}}<br /> [[File:BattleChangerIronhide.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Battle Changers, 2017)<br /> **''Set Number'': '''B5586/B0714'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''73'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Sniper rifle<br /> <br /> :Popped outta nowhere without any announcement from Hasbro itself, Battle Changer Ironhide is a brick-built robot centered around a modified Kreon torso, transforming from robot to off-road truck and back without removing any parts. <br /> <br /> : Like his wavemate [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#BattleChanger|Megatron]], he was only available at &quot;discount&quot; stores, first appearing at Dollar General, and then [[Walgreens]] for the holiday season.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Bot Shots''===<br /> [[File:BotShots launcher Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Launcher''' (Launcher, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''BL003'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''505'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''235'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''880'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 launchers, Ironhide is a teeny pickup truck (with spoiler) with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his front bumper is pressed. He has a &quot;spinner&quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His alternate mode and chest design are based on [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie Ironhide]], with his head being based on the original Generation 1 Ironhide. <br /> <br /> :He comes with a large trailer that pops open into a battle station with a pair of articulated buzzsaw-arms, and a spring-loaded vehicle launching ramp. The cannons on top of the trailer are based on live-action movie Ironhide's cannons.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)#Bot Shots|Super Bot Dirt Boss]], [[Hound (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Blitz Shot Autobot Hound]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Bot Shots|Swindle]]. His main truck body, arms, and legs are also used by [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Autobot Ratchet]] and [[First Aid (G1)#Bot Shots|Protectobot First Aid]]. His launcher was redecoed into ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' Ratchet's [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#RescueBase|Rescue Base]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSLIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Launcher Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3packSuperBot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots 3pack Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Decepticon Brawl / Shockwave / Ironhide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''Super Bot 007'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''305 '''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''970'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''350'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a &quot;Super Bot&quot; [[redeco]] of Ironhide, meaning he is cast in translucent plastic and has more lopsided strength ratings. He comes with [[Brawl (Movie)#BotShotS13Pack|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Shockwave (Movie)#Bot Shots|Shockwave]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Super Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Single}}<br /> [[File:BotShots single Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B012'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''500'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''670'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''450'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''Bot Shots'' single-packs, this is a live-action movie-style redeco of Ironhide in black and bluish-silver, with orange windows.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on single-pack Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SpinShot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots Spinshot Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B002'''<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hisao Nishimoto]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> ::*''Fist strength'': '''845'''<br /> ::*''Blaster strength'': '''210'''<br /> ::*''Sword strength'': '''570'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 single-packs, Ironhide is a new Spin Shot version decoed in red not unlike ''Generation 1'' Ironhide. As a Spin Shot, one manually winds up his upper body beforehand when transforming him into vehicle mode, where striking the front of the vehicle will cause him to burst open and spin while auto-transforming.<br /> <br /> :This mold was redecoed into [[Kup (G1)/toys|Sergeant Kup]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Spin Shot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BotShotPolarAssaultTeam}}<br /> [[File:BotShots PolarAssault Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I've heard of snow tires but ''this'' is ridiculous!]]<br /> *'''Polar Assault Team''' (Multi-pack, 2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''T004'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''750'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''265'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''600'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 five-packs, this redeco of the original Ironhide toy in bluish dark-grey, with white wheels and orange eyes. He comes in a five pack with similarly-themed redecos of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Mirage]], and [[Jetfire (G1)#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Jetfire]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSPAIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Polar Assault Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ===''BeCool''===<br /> [[File:BotShots_BeCool_BlackOffRoadCarIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Black Off Road Car (Ironhide)''' (2012)<br /> **''ID number'': '''B10'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' &quot;Black Off Road Car&quot; is practically identical to the single-packed black ''Bot Shots'' Ironhide toy, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode off-roading, a tire and a wrench.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Construct-Bots''===<br /> [[File:Construct-bot_ironhide_stock.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|A truck... sure, sure...]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Scout, 2013)<br /> **''Pieces: '''45'''<br /> : Part of Wave 1 of Construct-Bots Scouts, Ironhide can transform into a truck. Most of his parts debuted with him, however his head is a retool of [[Blitzwing (G1)#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]'s, switching his angry face with a grin. His large gun is also from Blitzwing.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CBIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Construct-Bots'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Specialist}}<br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generationstoy specialist ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Specialist: Autobots''' (Multi-pack, [[March 25]], 2014)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Converting cannon<br /> <br /> :''Universe'' Ironhide was re-released in a three-pack with ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]] and ''Universe'' [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]], available from Hasbro Asia and [[TakaraTomy Mall]]. All three Autobots feature new metallic paint decos, and the set's [[package art]] links up to the contemporaneously-released &quot;Specialist: Decepticons&quot; set to form a complete image. At selected stores in Asia, the set was available with a free Autobot insignia earphone cap plug.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Combiner Wars''===<br /> [[File:CWDlxIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't expect him to be repainted with [[Offroad (CW)|black/grey colors]] with [[Ironhide (Movie)|cannons]] added. [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Really]].]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2015)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Axe, &quot;super-cooled nitrogen/white-hot molten lead&quot; dual cannon/hand/foot/engine<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ironhide is a redeco/new-head retool of [[Offroad (CW)#Toys|Decepticon Offroad]], which transforms from a 4x4 double-cab pickup truck which is reminiscent of his [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] to robot and back! As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe figure he can form a combined-mode limb for any Voyager Class toys from the same subline or any ''Unite Warriors'' figure or into one of [[Godbomber#Legends|''Legends'' Godbomber]]'s legs but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sunstreaker, Mirage, Prowl, and Optimus Prime to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Toys|Optimus Maximus]]. He is also officially associated with [[Betatron (CW)|Betatron]] and [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]. A sticker sheet was sold at [[BotCon 2016]] to enhance Ironhide's resemblance to the original ''Beast Wars'' figure. <br /> <br /> :He includes a [[5 mm post|5mm handle]] axe weapon, and a larger accessory that can form a hand or foot in limb mode, a gun for robot mode, and can be mounted on a tab in the vehicle mode's truck bed to form a giant engine block. In an unadvertised feature, the peg on his engine weapon is the right size to mount a [[Mini-Con]] on.<br /> <br /> :While the front hood/windshields are needed to be folded as kneecaps for his leg mode, the piece also sticks out automatically if he collides to Optimus Prime/Motormaster's (or and of Hot Spot's redecoes/retools) protruding foot while the legs are being swiveled in his standing position, unless the leg joints are bent down to lessen the problem.<br /> <br /> : Hilariously, the robot mode [[stock photography|stock photo]] depicting a hand-painted [[prototype]] that's featured on the back of the toy's packaging is missing the wheel on his right leg.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide is packed with the comic book &quot;[[First Contact (IDW)|First Contact]]&quot;, rebranded as ''Combiner Wars'' #15. In Canada, Latin America, and Europe, he was available in different types of [[multilingual packaging]] including a character card featuring his comic book cover/[[package art]] instead. He and the last three waves of Combiner Wars Deluxe and Voyager figures later started showing up at TJ Maxx at reduced prices with the collector card.<br /> <br /> :As a part of the third and fourth wave promotion in Hasbro's Asian markets, a free sticker sheet for the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] was given out when purchasing any four Deluxe Class toys from those waves. As such, Ironhide was given Generation 1 toy-esque stickers for the owner to apply if they wanted.&lt;ref&gt;[https://news.tfw2005.com/2015/08/28/transformers-combiner-wars-sticker-sheet-for-wave-3-and-4-figures-300471 Protectobot and Optimus Maximus sticker promotion on TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The original sculpt was redecoed as [[Ruckus (G1)#Generations|Grabuge]], heavily retooled as [[First Aid (G1)#Generations|First Aid]] and differently retooled as [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Trailbreaker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I run on Propane and propane accessories.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2016]]-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QTF-07'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ironhide transforms from a licensed [[super deformed]] Toyota HiAce to a cute grumpy little robot.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Q-Transformers'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:MP27-Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|The G1 Ironhide you always wanted. Except with hip kibble. And a beer gut. And a long face.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2016-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-27'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 Laser pistols, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, missile, 2 alternate hands, 4 nozzles, wrist [[sonodar]], chest screen, jetpack, 2 flare effects, battle sled, 2 faces<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> : ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ironhide is a new mold that transforms into a licensed Cherry Vanette. He is in the standard Masterpiece [[scale]] (since [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-9]]), standing between MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|Convoy]] and MP-12 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Lambor]] in bot mode and can fit inside [[Combat Deck (G1)#MP10|Convoy's trailer]] in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> : He comes with a bunch of accessories referencing many of the gadgets he used in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Ironhide's [[character model]] did not include any weapons or other extra tools or devices, meaning there was little to no consistency in the depiction of his armament in the series; as such, the toy picks and chooses from the many weapons and accoutrements he was seen using. He includes a pair of generic Autobot laser pistols of the same design as the gun that came with ''Masterpiece'' Bumblebee (which Ironhide began using in &quot;[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]&quot;) which can be stored on the underside of his vehicle mode, a larger gun based on his original toy's Static Laser Gun (similar weapons having been seen in &quot;[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]&quot; and &quot;[[A Prime Problem]]&quot;), a set of alternate hands representing his ability to spray liquids through his fingertips (done in multiple episodes), a set of nozzles that can be exchanged for his hands based on those seen in &quot;[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]&quot;, a second set of nozzles based not on anything from the cartoon, but on the ''connector peg'' for his Static Laser Gun from his original toy, the back-mounded missile launcher from &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; based on his original toy's launcher, his wrist-mounted sonodar sensor dish from &quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&quot;, complimented by a readout image of dinosaur bones that can be slipped behind his windshield, and the jetpack seen in &quot;[[The Immobilizer]]&quot;, complete with jet-flare effects. A peg hole on the roof of his vehicle mode can hold one of the laser pistols or the Static Laser Gun.<br /> <br /> :Since ''Masterpiece'' Ironhide's robot mode incorporates the entire vehicle mode, a separate &quot;battle sled&quot; piece has been included, based on the component of the original toy, that can store all of Ironhide's accessories, including a second face piece that stores on the underside of the sled. In an additional nod to the original G1 toy, specifically its lack of a proper head, there is a sculpted detail resembling the &quot;face&quot; decal that went on the seat of the original toy that is visible through the windshield in van mode, that gets tucked away in robot mode.<br /> <br /> : There have been reports that the first release of the mold's chrome parts suffer from early corrosion similar to the issues encountered with the initial MP-5 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MP5|Megatron]].<br /> <br /> :If purchased from a seller supplied by Hasbro Asia, Ironhide includes a collector coin, mounted in a card which resembles the front of his van mode. It may have also included a [[die-cast]] drill accessory, based on the one he used in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot;. The drill accessory came in a small case styled to resemble a tool case.&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/14/masterpiece-ironhide-asia-exclusive-drill-accessory-images-324829 Masterpiece Ironhide Asia exclusive drill accessory images]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Masterpiece'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Unite Warriors''===<br /> [[File:TF-UW05-Ironhide.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]<br /> *'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (giftset, [[February 27]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''UW-05'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Weapons, 4 Gun/Fist/Foots<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Unite Warriors|Convoy Grand Prime]] set, Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). <br /> <br /> :Compared to the ''Combiner Wars'' release, Ironhide has numerous changes in deco to better match his look in the Generation 1 cartoon: While he shares an identical paint mask to the ''Combiner Wars'' figure, his black [[Unpaintable plastic|unpaintable parts]] are now in the same shade of light grey. Other changes include the stripes being yellow-y orange, a black paint is added on the front roof, and his gunmetal paint on the hood &amp; wheel rims are now silver.<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===<br /> [[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally, the (good) Classics Ironhide we've all wanted!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2019]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-S21'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-17'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[April 27]], 2019'''<br /> **''Hidden message code'': '''TRITHYLLIUM'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher&quot;<br /> :Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Ironhide transforms from robot to Cybertronian van and back. His vehicle mode takes several design cues from ''Titans Return'' [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]], though it shares no parts or engineering with the mold. In keeping with the ''War For Cybertron'' trilogy's concerns with scale, Ironhide is a full head taller than most of his Deluxe-priced mates. He includes a gigantic missile launcher cannon called the &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher,&quot; compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]], that can also convert into an equally gigantic hammer. As with all non-gimmick ''Siege'' figures, Ironhide features &lt;!--a more subdued color scheme than his other figures, as well as--&gt; &quot;battle damage&quot; paint applications on his lower shins, feet, and weapon. He also features multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate &quot;Fire Blasts&quot; from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. <br /> <br /> :Ironhide suffers from a production flaw that causes the molded hinges on his legs to be too small to properly house the side panels from his vehicle mode, causing them to pop off at the slightest pressure. This can be resolved by removing the panels and using a small screwdriver to carefully widen the pegholes, which creates enough clearance to properly house the panels within the hinges.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Deseeus Army Drone#Toys|Deseeus Army Drone]], given a new head as [[Crosshairs (G1)#Generations|Crosshairs]], and retooled into [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ratchet]]. The mold was also extensively retooled into ''Earthrise'' Ironhide (below).<br /> <br /> ::*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xU9CKYarz4 Official conversion video at the TRANSFORMERS OFFICIAL YouTube channel]''<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===<br /> [[File:TF-Generations-WFC-E-Autobot-Alliance-2-Pack-Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The '''better''' Classics Ironhide we truly want.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Alliance 2-Pack''' (Multi-pack, [[2020]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-E31'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''ER EX-18'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 20]], [[2021]]'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Pistol, Roof/Shield<br /> {{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Released in the &quot;Autobot Alliance&quot; 2-Pack with [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Prowl]] in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' toyline, Ironhide is an extensive retooling of his ''Siege'' counterpart, transforming into a van similar to his original Nissan mode. He features a new chest/windshield, bumper, lower arms, and leg panels, as well as a roof piece that converts into a shield in robot mode. While similar to the Siege version's head, the toy's head is also new, remolded to have less detailing and to be more cartoon accurate. In lieu of the Doomblast Forge Launcher (which this figure can wield if you wish), the shield can also become a giant four-barreled cannon. For a little extra firepower, Ironhide also comes with a smaller pistol. Conveniently, this gun can be stored on the underside of the shield, tucking away neatly in van mode.<br /> <br /> :Although the figure features molded windows in van mode, said windows lack any paint, tampographs, or decals for color, which causes inconsistencies when combined with the translucent plastic from the roof to complete them. Similar to the ''Siege'' iteration, the figure's robot mode feet stick out conspicuously from the van mode's backside. Lastly, Ironhide's red color is visibly inconsistent throughout the combined figure, with some parts appearing more pink than red against the darker red pieces.<br /> <br /> :The Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; is sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]. ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]] includes ''Earthrise'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Cliffjumper]]'s bazooka redecoed in green, matching Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, effectively adding another weapon to this Ironhide toy's arsenal.<br /> <br /> :The map piece that comes with Ironhide and Prowl is the mysterious [[Nebulan|Nebulon]] Station.<br /> <br /> :This pack was exclusive to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] in the United States, Canada and Europe.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Generations Selects]] [[DK-2 Guard]].<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Studio Series''===<br /> [[File:TF-Studio-Series-86-Voyager-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The '''BEST''' Classics Ironhide we could possibly g– where's the stripe?]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''Movie'': '''''The Transformers: The Movie'''''<br /> **''Hasbro ID number'': '''86-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 laser pistols, &quot;Decepticon Shuttle Ambush&quot; backdrop<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Redone at the Voyager Class price point, ''[[Studio Series]]'' Ironhide is an attempt to improve the faults of the ''Earthrise'' version (while also being a general retail item instead of an [[Amazon]] exclusive). Though he is a similar size to that previous toy, the advanced transformation engineering means he doesn't have feet sticking out of the back of the vehicle mode, and requires no [[Partsformer|partsforming]].<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, he lacks the signature yellow stripe on the sides of his vehicle mode. Unpainted translucent blue tabs also stick out the top of the vehicle mode roof, likely meant to secure a lightbar for a future Ratchet retool.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide comes with dual laser pistols, which can store on his back, on the back of his legs, on top of his van mode, or under it as exhaust pipes. <br /> <br /> :Optionally just like his previous Siege and Earthrise counterparts, Ironhide's Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; (which was sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]); as well as ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]]'s green bazooka (which was reminiscent of Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;) can both be used with this figure, even though these weapons cannot accommodate with Ironhide's vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide also includes a display backdrop depicting the scene from the '86 movie where he made his last stand against invading Decepticons aboard the Autobot Shuttle.<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Ironhide decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9|Rubber-hide]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (Decoy multi-pack, 1985)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Decoy, 1987)<br /> **''Decoy number'': 7<br /> <br /> : The Ironhide figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Decoy Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Super Collection Figure''===<br /> [[File:SCF Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ironhide had torso reduction surgery for this role.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2001)<br /> **''Act'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand<br /> <br /> : A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Ironhide was available in the third &quot;act&quot; of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. His pistol and nozzle-tipped-fingers left hand are modeled after his appearance in &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&quot;, though the pistol is painted black rather than light gray as in the episode. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless clear plastic version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.<br /> <br /> : In two out of every ten cases, the full-color version of Ironhide came packaged with the left leg of the wave's collectable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Fortress Maximus]] &quot;build-a-figure&quot;. This part itself could be in either full color or clear plastic, packed at an equal 1:1 ratio.<br /> <br /> : This figure was slightly [[retool]]ed to make ''SCF'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Ratchet]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/SCFIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/ClearIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide (Clear Version) on TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Heroes of Cybertron''===<br /> [[File:HOC Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2003)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's ''Super Collection Figure'' PVC was released the following year by Hasbro in the third wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide was given a [[light-piping]] gimmick by being cast entirely in translucent blue plastic then painted everywhere except on his eyes and the back of his head. <br /> <br /> : Unlike the Japanese version, he was sold separate on a blister card, and came with a [[bio]] card packed in the bubble.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Hard Hero===<br /> [[File:HardHero G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Go, Simba! Join the circle of life!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2002)<br /> <br /> : This cold-cast porcelain 6-inch tall bust was sculpted by Jason Ray, and is based very heavily upon Ironhide's cartoon appearance. A signed artist's proof version was available, limited to 100 pieces.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Attacktix''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-atx.jpg|thumb|[[Signal Lancer]] would soon rethink teaming up with Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Booster, &lt;s&gt;2007&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was likely to have been one of several ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' Booster pieces. Though displayed as part of the ''Attacktix'' display at the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' &quot;Celebration IV&quot; convention, he —and all the other pieces revealed at the show— were ultimately never released.<br /> <br /> {{canceledattacktix}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Boss Coffee===<br /> [[File:BossCoffee ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :A non-transforming PVC figure of Ironhide was released as part of a promotion by [[Boss Coffee]]. The small figure was randomly included with single cans of the company's &quot;Rainbow Mountain Blend&quot; coffee, contained in a plastic capsule affixed to the top of can which then became a display base for the figurine once removed. Ironhide features articulation at the shoulders and waist, and came with a small catalog leaflet that could be folded up and attached to the lid/base to form a diorama background for added display value.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br /> [[File:DiamondSelect G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Proof that EVERY Wave 1 Autobot had a shoulder cannon.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2009)<br /> <br /> :Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Ironhide was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. This detailed bust is based on Ironhide's (you guessed it) cartoon/comic model, but with much more detailing and with elements of his toy design. These include his vehicle sled's missile launcher mounted on his shoulder, his wielding of his sled's static laser gun and his original Diaclone &quot;face&quot; being present behind his windshield. In addition to the missile launcher being removable his open left hand can be replaced with a hand gripping his cartoon pistol for two handed &quot;chop busting.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Robot Heroes''===<br /> [[File:Robotheroesironhidekickback.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Stop copying me!&quot; &quot;Stop copying me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Ironhide &amp; Kickback''' (Two-pack, 2008)<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Part of the &quot;Generation 1 Series&quot; of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this adorably happy figurine of Ironhide is ready to pound his packmate [[Kickback (G1)#Robot Heroes|Kickback]] into metal filings. He features articulation in his neck and shoulders.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Figure Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF-Transformers-Figure-Collection-Ironhide-Decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|''Rubber-hide ver.2.0'']]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (01-2016)<br /> <br /> :Standing 42mm tall, ''Transformers Figure Collection'' Ironhide is a non-poseable soft-rubber figure based on a [[Decoy]] figure.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Bitfig===<br /> [[File:Bitfig-Ironhide.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (06-2017)<br /> <br /> Part of the second wave of Transformers Bitfig capsule toys.<br /> Ironhide's design is inspired by his appearance in the G1 cartoon, and is articulated at the neck and shoulders.<br /> Bitfig toys were packaged in capsules color coded to the toy they contained.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===''Keshi Surprise''===<br /> *'''Autobots''' (2018)<br /> <br /> :The ''[[Keshi Surprise]]'' series by [[Super7]] consisted of 1.75&quot; soft rubber figures in a style deliberately resembling the 1980s [[Decoy]]s. These [[blind-packed]] figures were sold individually or in cases depicting only their faction. Ironhide was available in red, yellow, blue, and purple and included a foil trading sticker.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===<br /> [[File:W1SIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' (2018)<br /> **'''Wave 1S: Starter Set''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T02/T04'''<br /> **''Stars: ''6<br /> :'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' is one of four double-sided character cards available in the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Starter Set.<br /> <br /> :The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W2Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''UT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T28/T46'''<br /> **''Stars: ''7<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler was released as part of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners. Like all other members of [[combiner]] teams released in the set, Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler is a folding card, with the Bot and Alt modes being depicted when the card is folded in half, and a holofoil portion of the the combined mode depicted when unfolded. The reverse of Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler depicts the lower left portion of [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus']], of whom Ironhide forms the left leg. <br /> <br /> :The artwork for Alt Mode is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game, while the Bot Mode artwork uses the [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]] Ironhide figure's packaging art.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler can be used to form Optimus Maximus, Ultimate Defender with the use of the Action card [[Enigma of Combination|Sentinel Enigma]] while he and the other Wave 2 Sentinels are in Bot mode on the battlefield and/or KO area.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W3CaptainIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T03/T48'''<br /> **''Stars: ''9<br /> :Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.<br /> <br /> :The card's artwork is based on the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Ironhide toy, with the Bot Mode artwork being reused from the toy's packaging art, and original artwork for Alt Mode, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]] and colors by [[Gunship Rev]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Imaginarium Art===<br /> [[File:ImaginariumMegatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Irondied]]<br /> *'''Megatron''' (2019)<br /> **''Accessories'': Energy flail<br /> <br /> :[[Imaginarium Art]]'s [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise|Megatron]] statue stands 25 inches tall atop a base of Ironhide's dead body. The eyes and fusion cannon can light up. Only 500 were produced. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Eaglemoss===<br /> * '''Transformers Gen-1 Chess Set''' (&lt;s&gt;2021&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> :In the planned [[Chess#Eaglemoss|Transformers Chess Set]] by [[Eaglemoss]], a relatively large and very well detailed statue of Iron Hide {{sic}} was slated to be one of the Rook pieces on the Autobot side.<br /> <br /> :A Kickstarter campaign to raise the necessary funds for this project was launched, but failed to meet its goal by September 24, 2021 and the whole thing was canceled.<br /> {{canceledtoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Pop!''===<br /> '''Ironhide''' ([[Funko Pop!#Digital Pop! NFTs|Digital ''Pop!'']], 2022)<br /> *''Rarity:''<br /> **''Monochrome:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Static:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Glowing:'' '''Uncommon'''<br /> **''Chrome:'' '''Rare'''<br /> **''Original'': '''Epic'''<br /> :{{W|Non-fungible token|NFT}}s depicting Ironhide in the [[Funko Pop!|Funko]] style.<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery heights=200&gt;<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_MONOCHROME.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_STATIC.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_UNCOMMON_IRONHIDE_GLOW.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_RARE_IRONHIDE_REDCHROME.gif|Chromehide<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_EPIC_IRONHIDE_ORIGINAL.gif<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Jada Toys===<br /> [[File:JadaNanoMetalfigsG1-18pack.jpg|upright=1.44|thumb]]<br /> *'''Transformers Series 1 18-pack''' (4cm Die Cast Figure Multipack, 2022)<br /> :Released by [[Jada Toys]], ''Nano Metalfigs'' Ironhide is an incredibly small die-cast figurine molded doing an action pose. He has a little base attached to his feet for balancing reasons.<br /> <br /> :He comes in an impressive multipack with [[Jada Toys#Nano Metalfigs|seventeen other figurines]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Icon Heroes===<br /> *'''Grimlock X Ironhide Retro Pin Set''' (2022)<br /> : A hard enamel pin based on Ironhide's original G1 package art made by Icon Heroes. It comes carded with a [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Icon Heroes|Grimlock]] pin.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:Generation2LightSpeed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|You have to be pretty desperate to copy Blowout's motto.]]<br /> *The black ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Ironhide was sold by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in North America as the ''[[Diakron]]'' &quot;DK-2&quot; Car/Robot in 1983, seemingly just a few months before he would be rebranded as a Transformer.<br /> *An early version of [[Power Master]] Ironhide's artwork in blue and yellow was used on packaging mock-ups displayed around [[Hasbro]]'s headquarters bearing the names &quot;Light Speed&quot;, &quot;Belzone&quot;, and &quot;Pothole&quot;, though no release of these toys was ever intended.<br /> *A mock-up of a new [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] toy in the form of a ''Universe'' (2008) Ironhide redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Camshaft claimed only 1.6% of the votes, leaving him in second-to-last place.&lt;ref&gt;[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *In the first year of ''[[Kre-O]]'', long before Devastator's set was released, an Ironhide Kreon was included in a turntable display of Kreons found in some retail outlets, often labeled as Sideswipe. He taunted you.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Attacktix]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Bitfig]]<br /> [[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Construct-Bots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]<br /> [[Category:Unite Warriors Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Universe (2008)]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Earthrise Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ironhide_(G1)/toys&diff=1650795 Ironhide (G1)/toys 2022-11-13T05:10:10Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Studio Series */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is what Ironhide's toys took 32 years to look like.]]<br /> <br /> '''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]''' is a bot of many toys, all of which are tough customers.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> [[File:G1 Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Kōjin Ōno]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was part of the original assortment of [[Autobot]] cars released in 1984, transforming into a red Nissan Sunny-Vanette Coach SGL and sharing his mold with the contemporaneously released [[Ratchet (G1)/toys|Ratchet]]. Ironhide splits when he transforms, with most of the rear section of his van mode transforming into a [[Onebox component|battle platform]], and the remainder becoming his rather misshapen, headless robot form. The robot can mount onto the battle platform, which is armed with a raising missile launcher and front-mounted &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;. Unusually for toys of this period, the Static Laser Gun can actually store when Ironhide is in vehicle mode, plugging into his undercarriage (although the missiles for his launcher and the peg required to attach the laser don't go anywhere).<br /> <br /> :As with all his fellow Autobot Cars from that year, Ironhide's mold derived from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, a series which was ''not'' about sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines. The Ironhide and Ratchet molds are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this: in place of a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. The figures did include [[sticker]]s to go over these seats that depicted a sort of robot face, but when Ironhide and Ratchet's [[character model]]s were created for ''Transformers'' media, all traces of the human-controlled design were removed to give the robots proper faces and heads, ultimately creating the two designs which diverged the most from the toys on which they were ostensibly based. <br /> <br /> :The stripe on the side of his vehicle mode (a sticker on the toy) is actually based on a special edition of the Nissan Cherry Vanette. On the real vehicle, the rear section (which is black on the toy's sticker) is actually the sliding rear door rail.&lt;ref name=&quot;stripe&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/438046-g1-ironhides-stripes-explained.html &quot;G1 Ironhide's Stripes...EXPLAINED!&quot;] at TFW2005&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : For unknown reasons, Ironhide was the only Autobot Car not released by Takara as part of their [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|original retail line]] in any form (while Ratchet was not available at retail, he was available as a [[S.T.A.R.S.]] mail away item). Ironhide was reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-ironhide/71/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Ironhide at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1984/instr_ironhide.jpg Instruction booklet for Ironhide at Botchthecrab.com]''<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|90sClassic}}<br /> [[File:G1toy classic heroes ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Gold box Onebox]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Classic Heroes, [[1990]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :The original Ironhide toy was first reissued in 1990 alongside several other early Transformers as part of the European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|''Classics'']] range. He was functionally identical to his original release.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generation 2''===<br /> [[File:G2Gobot Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Not a Gateway.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Go-Bot, [[1995]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on Generation 1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle construction for his wheels, he is compatible with most &quot;Hot Wheels&quot; and &quot;Matchbox&quot; play sets and tracks. <br /> <br /> : The mold is a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)/toys|Hoist]].<br /> <br /> : The toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] to be a [[Ironhide (G2)|&quot;next-generation&quot; clone of Ironhide]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Go-Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''{{G2MotormouthMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|PowerMaster}}<br /> [[File:G2-toy IronhidePM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Technically always in vehicle mode!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> <br /> :[[Power Master]] Ironhide transforms into a khaki camouflaged-and-armored Humvee. His main gimmick is his &quot;Power Master&quot; pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.<br /> <br /> :The Power Masters were the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and were only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address. They also conspicuously lack any mention of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in their stamped-on [[copyright]] information.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/IronhideEur/ironhide.htm More information on Power Master Ironhide at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Beast Wars''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-bw-magnaboss-toy.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Yes, this Alien-faced monstrosity certainly screams out &quot;G1 Ironhide&quot;! Who could possibly think otherwise?!]]<br /> *'''Magnaboss''' (Ultra Class three-pack, [[1997]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> {{note|The elephant Ironhide toy represents both the original Autobot and a [[Ironhide (BW)|latter-day Maximal]].}}<br /> <br /> : ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Ironhide transforms from an elephant via a rather complex process involving numerous hinges and unfolding panels into a rather stumpy robot. Although dumpy, he is nothing if not well-armed: he has a flip-out spike at the end of each arm, and comes with two removable guns that flip out from behind his elephant mode ears, and which can be plugged into the holes at the ends of his arms. Ironhide is packaged with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and combines with them to form his [[Magnaboss (BW)#Toys|Magnaboss]]. Ironhide forms the bulk of the combiner's mass, including all four limbs.<br /> <br /> :The Magnaboss toy included no information about its three components beyond their names. In 2007, [[IDW Publishing]] decided to retroactively establish that the trio were the ''Generation 1'' characters of the same names, and included this revelation in their ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]''.<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon#Toys|Santon]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Beast Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Collector's Edition''===<br /> [[File:G1toy collectors edition ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[June]] [[2001]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''98'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was made available in Japan for the first time as part of the ''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition|Collector's Edition]]'' line of reissues, available exclusively from online retailer [[e-HOBBY]] in a two-pack with mold-mate Ratchet. As the first Japanese edition of Ironhide, this was the first time the toy had been given a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]].<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Timelines''===<br /> [[File:TL-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Red, red, and also red.]]<br /> *'''Descent into Evil''' (Multi-figure boxset, 2005)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Radar assembly/energon weapon, battle sled<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Ironhide is a [[retool]]ing and [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)#Toys|Tow-Line]], transforming from a van of indeterminate, probably made-up model, into a robot and separate treaded [[Onebox component|battle sled]], each featuring [[powerlinx]] ports that allow them to combine with any other compatible Deluxe or Mega from the ''Energon'' toyline. Ironhide himself forms the &quot;torso&quot; in such a combination (armed with small guns that flip out from his feet to become over-shoulder blasters), while his battle sled becomes the &quot;legs&quot; for another robot. And of course, Ironhide can powerlinx with his own battle sled. <br /> <br /> : He was only available in the [[BotCon 2005]] exclusive ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' boxset, which also includes [[Buzzclaw (G1)#Toys|Buzzclaw]], [[Chromia (G1)#Timelines|Chromia]], [[Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)#Toys|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)#Timelines|Fallback]], and [[Ricochet (Timelines)#Toys|Ricochet]].<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's retooled mold was also used to make ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ratchet]]; they shared a new head mold, which combined elements of both of their designs, including Ironhide's head crest and Ratchet's forehead chevron. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Timelines Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:Encoretoy-Ironhidewithhead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His head problem just became a shoulders problem.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2007]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's original Generation 1 toy was made available again in mid-December 2007 as part of Takara's ongoing ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' line of [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]]. This version was distinguished by the inclusion of a &quot;head&quot; of sorts for the figure: one of the toy's box flaps featured an illustration of Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield which could be punched out along its perforated edges, and then slotted behind the toy's windshield. This hid the &quot;chair-face&quot; of the original toy and gave Ironhide his cartoon face... at the cost of making his arms appear to grow out of his waist.<br /> <br /> :This version of the toy was [[retool]]ed to add a pair of &quot;clips&quot; to the [[Onebox component|mobile platform]]'s gun-base, designed to keep Ironhide more securely attached when riding it. However, these clips are right where a pair of decals normally go. Additionally, like the original Japanese release of the figure (but [[for safety reasons|unlike Hasbro's version]]), the missile launcher now fires.<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|black}}<br /> [[File:G1toy protect black ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Once you go black, you go back to red shortly afterwards.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Protect Black''' ([[2008]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Tied in to Ironhide's ''Encore'' reissue was e-HOBBY's [[exclusive]] &quot;New Year Special&quot; [[redeco]] of the figure: Ironhide Protect Black (アイアンハイドプロテクトブラック). The toy was priced at 4725 yen, and pre-orders were taken until [[January 11]], 2008, with a shipping date of April 2008.<br /> <br /> :The new [[bio]] accompanying the release of the toy notes that Ironhide acquired this protective black coating to disguise himself from both Decepticons and members of the [[human]] criminal underworld, to better allow him to do his job as Optimus Prime's bodyguard. The bio also gives a name to the &quot;mode&quot; that consists of Ironhide standing atop his artillery platform, dubbing it his &quot;Marauder Mode&quot;. <br /> <br /> :[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=034000000005&amp;search=%A5%A2%A5%A4%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%C9 According to e-HOBBY], the black coloration is meant to [[homage]] the original ''Diaclone'' toy which became Ironhide, but between the release of Ratchet Emergency Green and the bio's reference to black pickup trucks, it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys|live-action movie Ironhide]]. The packaging is the same as the regular ''Encore'' Ironhide's.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Cybertron/ProtectBlackIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Protect Black Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2008)===<br /> [[File:TFU08-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, I found my head! And that makes me sad.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008)<br /> **''Series'': Classic Series<br /> **''Accessories'': &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; gun/blade<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> : As the first new-mold Ironhide toy designed to resemble the original character, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Ironhide transforms into a red SUV of made-up model. His chest features an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like gimmick that sees mechanical detailing rise up behind his chestplate when his bumper is lowered. He is armed with a double-ended &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; weapon, which deploys a translucent melee blade from one end, and a gatling cannon from the other. Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand ''can'' in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> <br /> : His [[stock photography]] (seen [[:File:Universe 2008 Ironhide Toy.jpg|here]]) shows him with a silver face and hubcaps, but as the final product shows, that didn't happen. While Hasbro claimed there would be a [[Variant|running change]] that would have the face in silver, no such change occurred. Speaking of packaging, Ironhide was also the first new ''Universe'' figure to have [[package art]] that wasn't burdened with [[dull surprise]].<br /> <br /> :As a nod to the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Generation 1 comics, Ironhide's license plate reads &quot;OREGON&quot;—the place that the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' crash-landed and the bulk of the first half of the comic takes place.<br /> <br /> : The figure has a couple of production flaws. Due to a combination of three places on the figure having too much plastic, Ironhide's head assembly does not have the clearance to rise up fully, and it ends up looking like he's hanging his head in shame. However, with some heavy tinkering, the head can be raised to a more level, straight position [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transtopia-fix-universe-20-ironhides-low-self-esteem/14298/]. The paint on the car roof has also been reported to rub off over time, and can have a sticky feel to it.<br /> <br /> : This mold was retooled to make [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Ratchet]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Ratchet]] (surprising absolutely no one), plus [[BotCon 2012]]'s [[Soundwave (SG)#TLSoundwave|Sir Soundwave]]. This toy also served as the model for the [[Ironhide (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation]] of Ironhide.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Universe Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Henkei! Henkei!''===<br /> [[File:Henkei Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He still has the head, and the stripe too.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008-[[November 20|11-20]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''C-11'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Converting Cannon<br /> <br /> :''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ironhide is a redeco of ''Universe'' Ironhide, with a view to making him far more accurate to his [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] appearance. To this end, a generally darker shade of red plastic and lighter gray plastic are used. Additionally, the blue paint used for his opaque windows is a better match to his transparent blue windows than on Hasbro's ''Universe'' toy. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, Ironhide features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] silver for his headlights, brake lights and his Converting Cannon housing.<br /> <br /> :Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand can in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> :Same as the Universe version, or on Henkei Prowl, this mold too suffers from the paint on the car roof turning sticky even on room temperatures and coming off.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|&quot;I tell you what, you can take a safety course, and if you're still interested in guns after they've taken all the fun out of it, we'll go to the tournament.&quot;]]<br /> *'''Destruction Site Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''560'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : After being teased for over a year (see below), a [[Kreon]] Ironhide finally came out as part of the biggest ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' set yet. Based on the original character's cartoon model, Kreon Ironhide is the lone defender of a construction site playset against four full-sized [[Constructicon (Kre-O)|Constructicon]] brick-bots; [[Scrapper (Kre-O)|Scrapper]], [[Drill Bit (Kre-O)|Drill Bit]], [[Scavenger (Kre-O)|Scavenger]], and [[Hightower (Kre-O)|Hightower]].<br /> <br /> :He is in so much trouble.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|TRUDevastator}}<br /> [[File:Kre-O Autobot Assault Devastator set.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Autobot Assault Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''781'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Gunner, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : A [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] version of the [[Devastator (Kre-O)|Devastator]] set comes with both a Kreon Ironhide and a full-build brick Ironhide, which can be rebuilt from an armored pickup truck (calling back to the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'' [[Ironhide (WFC)|incarnation of the character]], itself modeled after the [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action film version]]) into a robot. The robot/truck build also features twin pressure-launch missile launchers, and a bonus human [[Gunner]] Kreon.<br /> <br /> :He is in slightly less trouble now.<br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Custom}}<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideCustomKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Custom Kreon, 2013)<br /> **''Set number'': '''A6086'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''38'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Rack, large cannon, disruptor pistol, gripper-claw, double-bladed staff<br /> <br /> : Part of the first assortment of &quot;Custom Kreons&quot;, this version of Ironhide comes with a buildable parts rack on which to hang/store his many many extra pieces. His [[tampograph]]s are much more heavily-detailed than the original Kreon, based on the [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 1|original Ironhide toy]]. His &quot;normal&quot; helmet and large cannon (originally from ''Kre-O [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'') are [[chrome]]d, plus he comes with an extra clear-plastic helmet, torso and legs. He also has a pair of extra arms (originally from the ''Kre-O Battleship'' aliens), plus a buildable cannon based around the aforementioned chrome gun, a small pistol (originally a [[Klingon]] disruptor from ''Kre-O [[Star Trek]]''), a bendable gripping-claw, and a double-headed staff weapon.<br /> <br /> : Take extreme care with the chrome rifle/clear-plastic barrel combination, as attaching the two pieces will pretty much guarantee stress fractures on the clear-plastic barrel.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SDCC2014}}<br /> [[File:SDCC2014_KreonClassof1984_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, 2014)<br /> **''Set number'': '''B0090'''<br /> **''Voted'': Best Bot to Bring Home to [[Primus]]<br /> **''Accessories'': Assault rifle<br /> <br /> : This version of Ironhide, has a different set of toy-based tampographs (with a very cartoon-based face), though his plastic colors are based more on the original cartoon model. He has oddly been given a [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Wheeljack]] wing-pack, despite neither the toy or cartoon giving him wings.<br /> <br /> :He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the &quot;[[Kreon Class of 1984]]&quot;. Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Class of 1984 Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BattleChanger}}<br /> [[File:BattleChangerIronhide.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Battle Changers, 2017)<br /> **''Set Number'': '''B5586/B0714'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''73'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Sniper rifle<br /> <br /> :Popped outta nowhere without any announcement from Hasbro itself, Battle Changer Ironhide is a brick-built robot centered around a modified Kreon torso, transforming from robot to off-road truck and back without removing any parts. <br /> <br /> : Like his wavemate [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#BattleChanger|Megatron]], he was only available at &quot;discount&quot; stores, first appearing at Dollar General, and then [[Walgreens]] for the holiday season.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Bot Shots''===<br /> [[File:BotShots launcher Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Launcher''' (Launcher, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''BL003'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''505'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''235'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''880'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 launchers, Ironhide is a teeny pickup truck (with spoiler) with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his front bumper is pressed. He has a &quot;spinner&quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His alternate mode and chest design are based on [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie Ironhide]], with his head being based on the original Generation 1 Ironhide. <br /> <br /> :He comes with a large trailer that pops open into a battle station with a pair of articulated buzzsaw-arms, and a spring-loaded vehicle launching ramp. The cannons on top of the trailer are based on live-action movie Ironhide's cannons.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)#Bot Shots|Super Bot Dirt Boss]], [[Hound (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Blitz Shot Autobot Hound]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Bot Shots|Swindle]]. His main truck body, arms, and legs are also used by [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Autobot Ratchet]] and [[First Aid (G1)#Bot Shots|Protectobot First Aid]]. His launcher was redecoed into ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' Ratchet's [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#RescueBase|Rescue Base]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSLIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Launcher Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3packSuperBot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots 3pack Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Decepticon Brawl / Shockwave / Ironhide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''Super Bot 007'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''305 '''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''970'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''350'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a &quot;Super Bot&quot; [[redeco]] of Ironhide, meaning he is cast in translucent plastic and has more lopsided strength ratings. He comes with [[Brawl (Movie)#BotShotS13Pack|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Shockwave (Movie)#Bot Shots|Shockwave]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Super Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Single}}<br /> [[File:BotShots single Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B012'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''500'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''670'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''450'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''Bot Shots'' single-packs, this is a live-action movie-style redeco of Ironhide in black and bluish-silver, with orange windows.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on single-pack Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SpinShot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots Spinshot Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B002'''<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hisao Nishimoto]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> ::*''Fist strength'': '''845'''<br /> ::*''Blaster strength'': '''210'''<br /> ::*''Sword strength'': '''570'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 single-packs, Ironhide is a new Spin Shot version decoed in red not unlike ''Generation 1'' Ironhide. As a Spin Shot, one manually winds up his upper body beforehand when transforming him into vehicle mode, where striking the front of the vehicle will cause him to burst open and spin while auto-transforming.<br /> <br /> :This mold was redecoed into [[Kup (G1)/toys|Sergeant Kup]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Spin Shot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BotShotPolarAssaultTeam}}<br /> [[File:BotShots PolarAssault Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I've heard of snow tires but ''this'' is ridiculous!]]<br /> *'''Polar Assault Team''' (Multi-pack, 2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''T004'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''750'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''265'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''600'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 five-packs, this redeco of the original Ironhide toy in bluish dark-grey, with white wheels and orange eyes. He comes in a five pack with similarly-themed redecos of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Mirage]], and [[Jetfire (G1)#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Jetfire]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSPAIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Polar Assault Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ===''BeCool''===<br /> [[File:BotShots_BeCool_BlackOffRoadCarIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Black Off Road Car (Ironhide)''' (2012)<br /> **''ID number'': '''B10'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' &quot;Black Off Road Car&quot; is practically identical to the single-packed black ''Bot Shots'' Ironhide toy, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode off-roading, a tire and a wrench.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Construct-Bots''===<br /> [[File:Construct-bot_ironhide_stock.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|A truck... sure, sure...]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Scout, 2013)<br /> **''Pieces: '''45'''<br /> : Part of Wave 1 of Construct-Bots Scouts, Ironhide can transform into a truck. Most of his parts debuted with him, however his head is a retool of [[Blitzwing (G1)#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]'s, switching his angry face with a grin. His large gun is also from Blitzwing.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CBIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Construct-Bots'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Specialist}}<br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generationstoy specialist ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Specialist: Autobots''' (Multi-pack, [[March 25]], 2014)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Converting cannon<br /> <br /> :''Universe'' Ironhide was re-released in a three-pack with ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]] and ''Universe'' [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]], available from Hasbro Asia and [[TakaraTomy Mall]]. All three Autobots feature new metallic paint decos, and the set's [[package art]] links up to the contemporaneously-released &quot;Specialist: Decepticons&quot; set to form a complete image. At selected stores in Asia, the set was available with a free Autobot insignia earphone cap plug.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Combiner Wars''===<br /> [[File:CWDlxIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't expect him to be repainted with [[Offroad (CW)|black/grey colors]] with [[Ironhide (Movie)|cannons]] added. [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Really]].]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2015)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Axe, &quot;super-cooled nitrogen/white-hot molten lead&quot; dual cannon/hand/foot/engine<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ironhide is a redeco/new-head retool of [[Offroad (CW)#Toys|Decepticon Offroad]], which transforms from a 4x4 double-cab pickup truck which is reminiscent of his [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] to robot and back! As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe figure he can form a combined-mode limb for any Voyager Class toys from the same subline or any ''Unite Warriors'' figure or into one of [[Godbomber#Legends|''Legends'' Godbomber]]'s legs but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sunstreaker, Mirage, Prowl, and Optimus Prime to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Toys|Optimus Maximus]]. He is also officially associated with [[Betatron (CW)|Betatron]] and [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]. A sticker sheet was sold at [[BotCon 2016]] to enhance Ironhide's resemblance to the original ''Beast Wars'' figure. <br /> <br /> :He includes a [[5 mm post|5mm handle]] axe weapon, and a larger accessory that can form a hand or foot in limb mode, a gun for robot mode, and can be mounted on a tab in the vehicle mode's truck bed to form a giant engine block. In an unadvertised feature, the peg on his engine weapon is the right size to mount a [[Mini-Con]] on.<br /> <br /> :While the front hood/windshields are needed to be folded as kneecaps for his leg mode, the piece also sticks out automatically if he collides to Optimus Prime/Motormaster's (or and of Hot Spot's redecoes/retools) protruding foot while the legs are being swiveled in his standing position, unless the leg joints are bent down to lessen the problem.<br /> <br /> : Hilariously, the robot mode [[stock photography|stock photo]] depicting a hand-painted [[prototype]] that's featured on the back of the toy's packaging is missing the wheel on his right leg.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide is packed with the comic book &quot;[[First Contact (IDW)|First Contact]]&quot;, rebranded as ''Combiner Wars'' #15. In Canada, Latin America, and Europe, he was available in different types of [[multilingual packaging]] including a character card featuring his comic book cover/[[package art]] instead. He and the last three waves of Combiner Wars Deluxe and Voyager figures later started showing up at TJ Maxx at reduced prices with the collector card.<br /> <br /> :As a part of the third and fourth wave promotion in Hasbro's Asian markets, a free sticker sheet for the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] was given out when purchasing any four Deluxe Class toys from those waves. As such, Ironhide was given Generation 1 toy-esque stickers for the owner to apply if they wanted.&lt;ref&gt;[https://news.tfw2005.com/2015/08/28/transformers-combiner-wars-sticker-sheet-for-wave-3-and-4-figures-300471 Protectobot and Optimus Maximus sticker promotion on TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The original sculpt was redecoed as [[Ruckus (G1)#Generations|Grabuge]], heavily retooled as [[First Aid (G1)#Generations|First Aid]] and differently retooled as [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Trailbreaker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I run on Propane and propane accessories.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2016]]-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QTF-07'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ironhide transforms from a licensed [[super deformed]] Toyota HiAce to a cute grumpy little robot.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Q-Transformers'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:MP27-Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|The G1 Ironhide you always wanted. Except with hip kibble. And a beer gut. And a long face.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2016-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-27'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 Laser pistols, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, missile, 2 alternate hands, 4 nozzles, wrist [[sonodar]], chest screen, jetpack, 2 flare effects, battle sled, 2 faces<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> : ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ironhide is a new mold that transforms into a licensed Cherry Vanette. He is in the standard Masterpiece [[scale]] (since [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-9]]), standing between MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|Convoy]] and MP-12 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Lambor]] in bot mode and can fit inside [[Combat Deck (G1)#MP10|Convoy's trailer]] in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> : He comes with a bunch of accessories referencing many of the gadgets he used in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Ironhide's [[character model]] did not include any weapons or other extra tools or devices, meaning there was little to no consistency in the depiction of his armament in the series; as such, the toy picks and chooses from the many weapons and accoutrements he was seen using. He includes a pair of generic Autobot laser pistols of the same design as the gun that came with ''Masterpiece'' Bumblebee (which Ironhide began using in &quot;[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]&quot;) which can be stored on the underside of his vehicle mode, a larger gun based on his original toy's Static Laser Gun (similar weapons having been seen in &quot;[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]&quot; and &quot;[[A Prime Problem]]&quot;), a set of alternate hands representing his ability to spray liquids through his fingertips (done in multiple episodes), a set of nozzles that can be exchanged for his hands based on those seen in &quot;[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]&quot;, a second set of nozzles based not on anything from the cartoon, but on the ''connector peg'' for his Static Laser Gun from his original toy, the back-mounded missile launcher from &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; based on his original toy's launcher, his wrist-mounted sonodar sensor dish from &quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&quot;, complimented by a readout image of dinosaur bones that can be slipped behind his windshield, and the jetpack seen in &quot;[[The Immobilizer]]&quot;, complete with jet-flare effects. A peg hole on the roof of his vehicle mode can hold one of the laser pistols or the Static Laser Gun.<br /> <br /> :Since ''Masterpiece'' Ironhide's robot mode incorporates the entire vehicle mode, a separate &quot;battle sled&quot; piece has been included, based on the component of the original toy, that can store all of Ironhide's accessories, including a second face piece that stores on the underside of the sled. In an additional nod to the original G1 toy, specifically its lack of a proper head, there is a sculpted detail resembling the &quot;face&quot; decal that went on the seat of the original toy that is visible through the windshield in van mode, that gets tucked away in robot mode.<br /> <br /> : There have been reports that the first release of the mold's chrome parts suffer from early corrosion similar to the issues encountered with the initial MP-5 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MP5|Megatron]].<br /> <br /> :If purchased from a seller supplied by Hasbro Asia, Ironhide includes a collector coin, mounted in a card which resembles the front of his van mode. It may have also included a [[die-cast]] drill accessory, based on the one he used in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot;. The drill accessory came in a small case styled to resemble a tool case.&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/14/masterpiece-ironhide-asia-exclusive-drill-accessory-images-324829 Masterpiece Ironhide Asia exclusive drill accessory images]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Masterpiece'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Unite Warriors''===<br /> [[File:TF-UW05-Ironhide.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]<br /> *'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (giftset, [[February 27]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''UW-05'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Weapons, 4 Gun/Fist/Foots<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Unite Warriors|Convoy Grand Prime]] set, Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). <br /> <br /> :Compared to the ''Combiner Wars'' release, Ironhide has numerous changes in deco to better match his look in the Generation 1 cartoon: While he shares an identical paint mask to the ''Combiner Wars'' figure, his black [[Unpaintable plastic|unpaintable parts]] are now in the same shade of light grey. Other changes include the stripes being yellow-y orange, a black paint is added on the front roof, and his gunmetal paint on the hood &amp; wheel rims are now silver.<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===<br /> [[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally, the (good) Classics Ironhide we've all wanted!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2019]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-S21'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-17'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[April 27]], 2019'''<br /> **''Hidden message code'': '''TRITHYLLIUM'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher&quot;<br /> :Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Ironhide transforms from robot to Cybertronian van and back. His vehicle mode takes several design cues from ''Titans Return'' [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]], though it shares no parts or engineering with the mold. In keeping with the ''War For Cybertron'' trilogy's concerns with scale, Ironhide is a full head taller than most of his Deluxe-priced mates. He includes a gigantic missile launcher cannon called the &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher,&quot; compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]], that can also convert into an equally gigantic hammer. As with all non-gimmick ''Siege'' figures, Ironhide features &lt;!--a more subdued color scheme than his other figures, as well as--&gt; &quot;battle damage&quot; paint applications on his lower shins, feet, and weapon. He also features multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate &quot;Fire Blasts&quot; from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. <br /> <br /> :Ironhide suffers from a production flaw that causes the molded hinges on his legs to be too small to properly house the side panels from his vehicle mode, causing them to pop off at the slightest pressure. This can be resolved by removing the panels and using a small screwdriver to carefully widen the pegholes, which creates enough clearance to properly house the panels within the hinges.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Deseeus Army Drone#Toys|Deseeus Army Drone]], given a new head as [[Crosshairs (G1)#Generations|Crosshairs]], and retooled into [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ratchet]]. The mold was also extensively retooled into ''Earthrise'' Ironhide (below).<br /> <br /> ::*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xU9CKYarz4 Official conversion video at the TRANSFORMERS OFFICIAL YouTube channel]''<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===<br /> [[File:TF-Generations-WFC-E-Autobot-Alliance-2-Pack-Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The '''better''' Classics Ironhide we truly want.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Alliance 2-Pack''' (Multi-pack, [[2020]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-E31'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''ER EX-18'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 20]], [[2021]]'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Pistol, Roof/Shield<br /> {{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Released in the &quot;Autobot Alliance&quot; 2-Pack with [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Prowl]] in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' toyline, Ironhide is an extensive retooling of his ''Siege'' counterpart, transforming into a van similar to his original Nissan mode. He features a new chest/windshield, bumper, lower arms, and leg panels, as well as a roof piece that converts into a shield in robot mode. While similar to the Siege version's head, the toy's head is also new, remolded to have less detailing and to be more cartoon accurate. In lieu of the Doomblast Forge Launcher (which this figure can wield if you wish), the shield can also become a giant four-barreled cannon. For a little extra firepower, Ironhide also comes with a smaller pistol. Conveniently, this gun can be stored on the underside of the shield, tucking away neatly in van mode.<br /> <br /> :Although the figure features molded windows in van mode, said windows lack any paint, tampographs, or decals for color, which causes inconsistencies when combined with the translucent plastic from the roof to complete them. Similar to the ''Siege'' iteration, the figure's robot mode feet stick out conspicuously from the van mode's backside. Lastly, Ironhide's red color is visibly inconsistent throughout the combined figure, with some parts appearing more pink than red against the darker red pieces.<br /> <br /> :The Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; is sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]. ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]] includes ''Earthrise'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Cliffjumper]]'s bazooka redecoed in green, matching Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, effectively adding another weapon to this Ironhide toy's arsenal.<br /> <br /> :The map piece that comes with Ironhide and Prowl is the mysterious [[Nebulan|Nebulon]] Station.<br /> <br /> :This pack was exclusive to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] in the United States, Canada and Europe.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Generations Selects]] [[DK-2 Guard]].<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Studio Series''===<br /> [[File:TF-Studio-Series-86-Voyager-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The '''BEST''' Classics Ironhide we could possibly g– where's the stripe?]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''Movie'': '''''The Transformers: The Movie'''''<br /> **''Hasbro ID number'': '''86-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 laser pistols, &quot;Decepticon Shuttle Ambush&quot; backdrop<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Redone at the Voyager Class price point, ''[[Studio Series]]'' Ironhide is an attempt to improve the faults of the ''Earthrise'' version (while also being a general retail item instead of an [[Amazon]] exclusive). Though he is a similar size to that previous toy, the advanced transformation engineering means he doesn't have feet sticking out of the back of the vehicle mode, and requires no [[Partsformer|partsforming]].<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, he lacks the signature yellow stripe on the sides of his vehicle mode. Unpainted translucent blue tabs also stick out the top of the vehicle mode roof, likely meant to secure a lightbar for a future Ratchet retool.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide comes with dual laser pistols, which can store on his back, on the back of his legs, on top of his van mode, or under it as exhaust pipes. <br /> <br /> :Optionally, Ironhide's Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; (which was sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]); as well as ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]]'s green bazooka (which was reminiscent of Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;) can both be used with this figure, even though these weapons cannot accommodate with Ironhide's vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide also includes a display backdrop depicting the scene from the '86 movie where he made his last stand against invading Decepticons aboard the Autobot Shuttle.<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Ironhide decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9|Rubber-hide]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (Decoy multi-pack, 1985)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Decoy, 1987)<br /> **''Decoy number'': 7<br /> <br /> : The Ironhide figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Decoy Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Super Collection Figure''===<br /> [[File:SCF Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ironhide had torso reduction surgery for this role.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2001)<br /> **''Act'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand<br /> <br /> : A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Ironhide was available in the third &quot;act&quot; of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. His pistol and nozzle-tipped-fingers left hand are modeled after his appearance in &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&quot;, though the pistol is painted black rather than light gray as in the episode. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless clear plastic version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.<br /> <br /> : In two out of every ten cases, the full-color version of Ironhide came packaged with the left leg of the wave's collectable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Fortress Maximus]] &quot;build-a-figure&quot;. This part itself could be in either full color or clear plastic, packed at an equal 1:1 ratio.<br /> <br /> : This figure was slightly [[retool]]ed to make ''SCF'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Ratchet]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/SCFIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/ClearIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide (Clear Version) on TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Heroes of Cybertron''===<br /> [[File:HOC Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2003)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's ''Super Collection Figure'' PVC was released the following year by Hasbro in the third wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide was given a [[light-piping]] gimmick by being cast entirely in translucent blue plastic then painted everywhere except on his eyes and the back of his head. <br /> <br /> : Unlike the Japanese version, he was sold separate on a blister card, and came with a [[bio]] card packed in the bubble.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Hard Hero===<br /> [[File:HardHero G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Go, Simba! Join the circle of life!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2002)<br /> <br /> : This cold-cast porcelain 6-inch tall bust was sculpted by Jason Ray, and is based very heavily upon Ironhide's cartoon appearance. A signed artist's proof version was available, limited to 100 pieces.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Attacktix''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-atx.jpg|thumb|[[Signal Lancer]] would soon rethink teaming up with Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Booster, &lt;s&gt;2007&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was likely to have been one of several ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' Booster pieces. Though displayed as part of the ''Attacktix'' display at the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' &quot;Celebration IV&quot; convention, he —and all the other pieces revealed at the show— were ultimately never released.<br /> <br /> {{canceledattacktix}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Boss Coffee===<br /> [[File:BossCoffee ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :A non-transforming PVC figure of Ironhide was released as part of a promotion by [[Boss Coffee]]. The small figure was randomly included with single cans of the company's &quot;Rainbow Mountain Blend&quot; coffee, contained in a plastic capsule affixed to the top of can which then became a display base for the figurine once removed. Ironhide features articulation at the shoulders and waist, and came with a small catalog leaflet that could be folded up and attached to the lid/base to form a diorama background for added display value.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br /> [[File:DiamondSelect G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Proof that EVERY Wave 1 Autobot had a shoulder cannon.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2009)<br /> <br /> :Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Ironhide was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. This detailed bust is based on Ironhide's (you guessed it) cartoon/comic model, but with much more detailing and with elements of his toy design. These include his vehicle sled's missile launcher mounted on his shoulder, his wielding of his sled's static laser gun and his original Diaclone &quot;face&quot; being present behind his windshield. In addition to the missile launcher being removable his open left hand can be replaced with a hand gripping his cartoon pistol for two handed &quot;chop busting.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Robot Heroes''===<br /> [[File:Robotheroesironhidekickback.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Stop copying me!&quot; &quot;Stop copying me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Ironhide &amp; Kickback''' (Two-pack, 2008)<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Part of the &quot;Generation 1 Series&quot; of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this adorably happy figurine of Ironhide is ready to pound his packmate [[Kickback (G1)#Robot Heroes|Kickback]] into metal filings. He features articulation in his neck and shoulders.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Figure Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF-Transformers-Figure-Collection-Ironhide-Decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|''Rubber-hide ver.2.0'']]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (01-2016)<br /> <br /> :Standing 42mm tall, ''Transformers Figure Collection'' Ironhide is a non-poseable soft-rubber figure based on a [[Decoy]] figure.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Bitfig===<br /> [[File:Bitfig-Ironhide.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (06-2017)<br /> <br /> Part of the second wave of Transformers Bitfig capsule toys.<br /> Ironhide's design is inspired by his appearance in the G1 cartoon, and is articulated at the neck and shoulders.<br /> Bitfig toys were packaged in capsules color coded to the toy they contained.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===''Keshi Surprise''===<br /> *'''Autobots''' (2018)<br /> <br /> :The ''[[Keshi Surprise]]'' series by [[Super7]] consisted of 1.75&quot; soft rubber figures in a style deliberately resembling the 1980s [[Decoy]]s. These [[blind-packed]] figures were sold individually or in cases depicting only their faction. Ironhide was available in red, yellow, blue, and purple and included a foil trading sticker.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===<br /> [[File:W1SIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' (2018)<br /> **'''Wave 1S: Starter Set''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T02/T04'''<br /> **''Stars: ''6<br /> :'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' is one of four double-sided character cards available in the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Starter Set.<br /> <br /> :The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W2Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''UT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T28/T46'''<br /> **''Stars: ''7<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler was released as part of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners. Like all other members of [[combiner]] teams released in the set, Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler is a folding card, with the Bot and Alt modes being depicted when the card is folded in half, and a holofoil portion of the the combined mode depicted when unfolded. The reverse of Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler depicts the lower left portion of [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus']], of whom Ironhide forms the left leg. <br /> <br /> :The artwork for Alt Mode is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game, while the Bot Mode artwork uses the [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]] Ironhide figure's packaging art.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler can be used to form Optimus Maximus, Ultimate Defender with the use of the Action card [[Enigma of Combination|Sentinel Enigma]] while he and the other Wave 2 Sentinels are in Bot mode on the battlefield and/or KO area.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W3CaptainIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T03/T48'''<br /> **''Stars: ''9<br /> :Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.<br /> <br /> :The card's artwork is based on the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Ironhide toy, with the Bot Mode artwork being reused from the toy's packaging art, and original artwork for Alt Mode, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]] and colors by [[Gunship Rev]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Imaginarium Art===<br /> [[File:ImaginariumMegatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Irondied]]<br /> *'''Megatron''' (2019)<br /> **''Accessories'': Energy flail<br /> <br /> :[[Imaginarium Art]]'s [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise|Megatron]] statue stands 25 inches tall atop a base of Ironhide's dead body. The eyes and fusion cannon can light up. Only 500 were produced. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Eaglemoss===<br /> * '''Transformers Gen-1 Chess Set''' (&lt;s&gt;2021&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> :In the planned [[Chess#Eaglemoss|Transformers Chess Set]] by [[Eaglemoss]], a relatively large and very well detailed statue of Iron Hide {{sic}} was slated to be one of the Rook pieces on the Autobot side.<br /> <br /> :A Kickstarter campaign to raise the necessary funds for this project was launched, but failed to meet its goal by September 24, 2021 and the whole thing was canceled.<br /> {{canceledtoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Pop!''===<br /> '''Ironhide''' ([[Funko Pop!#Digital Pop! NFTs|Digital ''Pop!'']], 2022)<br /> *''Rarity:''<br /> **''Monochrome:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Static:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Glowing:'' '''Uncommon'''<br /> **''Chrome:'' '''Rare'''<br /> **''Original'': '''Epic'''<br /> :{{W|Non-fungible token|NFT}}s depicting Ironhide in the [[Funko Pop!|Funko]] style.<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery heights=200&gt;<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_MONOCHROME.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_STATIC.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_UNCOMMON_IRONHIDE_GLOW.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_RARE_IRONHIDE_REDCHROME.gif|Chromehide<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_EPIC_IRONHIDE_ORIGINAL.gif<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Jada Toys===<br /> [[File:JadaNanoMetalfigsG1-18pack.jpg|upright=1.44|thumb]]<br /> *'''Transformers Series 1 18-pack''' (4cm Die Cast Figure Multipack, 2022)<br /> :Released by [[Jada Toys]], ''Nano Metalfigs'' Ironhide is an incredibly small die-cast figurine molded doing an action pose. He has a little base attached to his feet for balancing reasons.<br /> <br /> :He comes in an impressive multipack with [[Jada Toys#Nano Metalfigs|seventeen other figurines]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Icon Heroes===<br /> *'''Grimlock X Ironhide Retro Pin Set''' (2022)<br /> : A hard enamel pin based on Ironhide's original G1 package art made by Icon Heroes. It comes carded with a [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Icon Heroes|Grimlock]] pin.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:Generation2LightSpeed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|You have to be pretty desperate to copy Blowout's motto.]]<br /> *The black ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Ironhide was sold by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in North America as the ''[[Diakron]]'' &quot;DK-2&quot; Car/Robot in 1983, seemingly just a few months before he would be rebranded as a Transformer.<br /> *An early version of [[Power Master]] Ironhide's artwork in blue and yellow was used on packaging mock-ups displayed around [[Hasbro]]'s headquarters bearing the names &quot;Light Speed&quot;, &quot;Belzone&quot;, and &quot;Pothole&quot;, though no release of these toys was ever intended.<br /> *A mock-up of a new [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] toy in the form of a ''Universe'' (2008) Ironhide redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Camshaft claimed only 1.6% of the votes, leaving him in second-to-last place.&lt;ref&gt;[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *In the first year of ''[[Kre-O]]'', long before Devastator's set was released, an Ironhide Kreon was included in a turntable display of Kreons found in some retail outlets, often labeled as Sideswipe. He taunted you.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Attacktix]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Bitfig]]<br /> [[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Construct-Bots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]<br /> [[Category:Unite Warriors Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Universe (2008)]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Earthrise Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ironhide_(G1)/toys&diff=1650794 Ironhide (G1)/toys 2022-11-13T05:09:10Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Studio Series */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is what Ironhide's toys took 32 years to look like.]]<br /> <br /> '''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]''' is a bot of many toys, all of which are tough customers.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> [[File:G1 Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Kōjin Ōno]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was part of the original assortment of [[Autobot]] cars released in 1984, transforming into a red Nissan Sunny-Vanette Coach SGL and sharing his mold with the contemporaneously released [[Ratchet (G1)/toys|Ratchet]]. Ironhide splits when he transforms, with most of the rear section of his van mode transforming into a [[Onebox component|battle platform]], and the remainder becoming his rather misshapen, headless robot form. The robot can mount onto the battle platform, which is armed with a raising missile launcher and front-mounted &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;. Unusually for toys of this period, the Static Laser Gun can actually store when Ironhide is in vehicle mode, plugging into his undercarriage (although the missiles for his launcher and the peg required to attach the laser don't go anywhere).<br /> <br /> :As with all his fellow Autobot Cars from that year, Ironhide's mold derived from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, a series which was ''not'' about sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines. The Ironhide and Ratchet molds are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this: in place of a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. The figures did include [[sticker]]s to go over these seats that depicted a sort of robot face, but when Ironhide and Ratchet's [[character model]]s were created for ''Transformers'' media, all traces of the human-controlled design were removed to give the robots proper faces and heads, ultimately creating the two designs which diverged the most from the toys on which they were ostensibly based. <br /> <br /> :The stripe on the side of his vehicle mode (a sticker on the toy) is actually based on a special edition of the Nissan Cherry Vanette. On the real vehicle, the rear section (which is black on the toy's sticker) is actually the sliding rear door rail.&lt;ref name=&quot;stripe&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/438046-g1-ironhides-stripes-explained.html &quot;G1 Ironhide's Stripes...EXPLAINED!&quot;] at TFW2005&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : For unknown reasons, Ironhide was the only Autobot Car not released by Takara as part of their [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|original retail line]] in any form (while Ratchet was not available at retail, he was available as a [[S.T.A.R.S.]] mail away item). Ironhide was reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-ironhide/71/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Ironhide at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1984/instr_ironhide.jpg Instruction booklet for Ironhide at Botchthecrab.com]''<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|90sClassic}}<br /> [[File:G1toy classic heroes ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Gold box Onebox]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Classic Heroes, [[1990]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :The original Ironhide toy was first reissued in 1990 alongside several other early Transformers as part of the European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|''Classics'']] range. He was functionally identical to his original release.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generation 2''===<br /> [[File:G2Gobot Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Not a Gateway.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Go-Bot, [[1995]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on Generation 1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle construction for his wheels, he is compatible with most &quot;Hot Wheels&quot; and &quot;Matchbox&quot; play sets and tracks. <br /> <br /> : The mold is a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)/toys|Hoist]].<br /> <br /> : The toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] to be a [[Ironhide (G2)|&quot;next-generation&quot; clone of Ironhide]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Go-Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''{{G2MotormouthMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|PowerMaster}}<br /> [[File:G2-toy IronhidePM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Technically always in vehicle mode!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> <br /> :[[Power Master]] Ironhide transforms into a khaki camouflaged-and-armored Humvee. His main gimmick is his &quot;Power Master&quot; pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.<br /> <br /> :The Power Masters were the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and were only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address. They also conspicuously lack any mention of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in their stamped-on [[copyright]] information.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/IronhideEur/ironhide.htm More information on Power Master Ironhide at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Beast Wars''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-bw-magnaboss-toy.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Yes, this Alien-faced monstrosity certainly screams out &quot;G1 Ironhide&quot;! Who could possibly think otherwise?!]]<br /> *'''Magnaboss''' (Ultra Class three-pack, [[1997]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> {{note|The elephant Ironhide toy represents both the original Autobot and a [[Ironhide (BW)|latter-day Maximal]].}}<br /> <br /> : ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Ironhide transforms from an elephant via a rather complex process involving numerous hinges and unfolding panels into a rather stumpy robot. Although dumpy, he is nothing if not well-armed: he has a flip-out spike at the end of each arm, and comes with two removable guns that flip out from behind his elephant mode ears, and which can be plugged into the holes at the ends of his arms. Ironhide is packaged with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and combines with them to form his [[Magnaboss (BW)#Toys|Magnaboss]]. Ironhide forms the bulk of the combiner's mass, including all four limbs.<br /> <br /> :The Magnaboss toy included no information about its three components beyond their names. In 2007, [[IDW Publishing]] decided to retroactively establish that the trio were the ''Generation 1'' characters of the same names, and included this revelation in their ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]''.<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon#Toys|Santon]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Beast Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Collector's Edition''===<br /> [[File:G1toy collectors edition ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[June]] [[2001]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''98'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was made available in Japan for the first time as part of the ''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition|Collector's Edition]]'' line of reissues, available exclusively from online retailer [[e-HOBBY]] in a two-pack with mold-mate Ratchet. As the first Japanese edition of Ironhide, this was the first time the toy had been given a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]].<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Timelines''===<br /> [[File:TL-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Red, red, and also red.]]<br /> *'''Descent into Evil''' (Multi-figure boxset, 2005)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Radar assembly/energon weapon, battle sled<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Ironhide is a [[retool]]ing and [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)#Toys|Tow-Line]], transforming from a van of indeterminate, probably made-up model, into a robot and separate treaded [[Onebox component|battle sled]], each featuring [[powerlinx]] ports that allow them to combine with any other compatible Deluxe or Mega from the ''Energon'' toyline. Ironhide himself forms the &quot;torso&quot; in such a combination (armed with small guns that flip out from his feet to become over-shoulder blasters), while his battle sled becomes the &quot;legs&quot; for another robot. And of course, Ironhide can powerlinx with his own battle sled. <br /> <br /> : He was only available in the [[BotCon 2005]] exclusive ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' boxset, which also includes [[Buzzclaw (G1)#Toys|Buzzclaw]], [[Chromia (G1)#Timelines|Chromia]], [[Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)#Toys|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)#Timelines|Fallback]], and [[Ricochet (Timelines)#Toys|Ricochet]].<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's retooled mold was also used to make ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ratchet]]; they shared a new head mold, which combined elements of both of their designs, including Ironhide's head crest and Ratchet's forehead chevron. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Timelines Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:Encoretoy-Ironhidewithhead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His head problem just became a shoulders problem.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2007]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's original Generation 1 toy was made available again in mid-December 2007 as part of Takara's ongoing ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' line of [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]]. This version was distinguished by the inclusion of a &quot;head&quot; of sorts for the figure: one of the toy's box flaps featured an illustration of Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield which could be punched out along its perforated edges, and then slotted behind the toy's windshield. This hid the &quot;chair-face&quot; of the original toy and gave Ironhide his cartoon face... at the cost of making his arms appear to grow out of his waist.<br /> <br /> :This version of the toy was [[retool]]ed to add a pair of &quot;clips&quot; to the [[Onebox component|mobile platform]]'s gun-base, designed to keep Ironhide more securely attached when riding it. However, these clips are right where a pair of decals normally go. Additionally, like the original Japanese release of the figure (but [[for safety reasons|unlike Hasbro's version]]), the missile launcher now fires.<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|black}}<br /> [[File:G1toy protect black ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Once you go black, you go back to red shortly afterwards.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Protect Black''' ([[2008]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Tied in to Ironhide's ''Encore'' reissue was e-HOBBY's [[exclusive]] &quot;New Year Special&quot; [[redeco]] of the figure: Ironhide Protect Black (アイアンハイドプロテクトブラック). The toy was priced at 4725 yen, and pre-orders were taken until [[January 11]], 2008, with a shipping date of April 2008.<br /> <br /> :The new [[bio]] accompanying the release of the toy notes that Ironhide acquired this protective black coating to disguise himself from both Decepticons and members of the [[human]] criminal underworld, to better allow him to do his job as Optimus Prime's bodyguard. The bio also gives a name to the &quot;mode&quot; that consists of Ironhide standing atop his artillery platform, dubbing it his &quot;Marauder Mode&quot;. <br /> <br /> :[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=034000000005&amp;search=%A5%A2%A5%A4%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%C9 According to e-HOBBY], the black coloration is meant to [[homage]] the original ''Diaclone'' toy which became Ironhide, but between the release of Ratchet Emergency Green and the bio's reference to black pickup trucks, it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys|live-action movie Ironhide]]. The packaging is the same as the regular ''Encore'' Ironhide's.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Cybertron/ProtectBlackIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Protect Black Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2008)===<br /> [[File:TFU08-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, I found my head! And that makes me sad.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008)<br /> **''Series'': Classic Series<br /> **''Accessories'': &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; gun/blade<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> : As the first new-mold Ironhide toy designed to resemble the original character, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Ironhide transforms into a red SUV of made-up model. His chest features an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like gimmick that sees mechanical detailing rise up behind his chestplate when his bumper is lowered. He is armed with a double-ended &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; weapon, which deploys a translucent melee blade from one end, and a gatling cannon from the other. Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand ''can'' in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> <br /> : His [[stock photography]] (seen [[:File:Universe 2008 Ironhide Toy.jpg|here]]) shows him with a silver face and hubcaps, but as the final product shows, that didn't happen. While Hasbro claimed there would be a [[Variant|running change]] that would have the face in silver, no such change occurred. Speaking of packaging, Ironhide was also the first new ''Universe'' figure to have [[package art]] that wasn't burdened with [[dull surprise]].<br /> <br /> :As a nod to the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Generation 1 comics, Ironhide's license plate reads &quot;OREGON&quot;—the place that the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' crash-landed and the bulk of the first half of the comic takes place.<br /> <br /> : The figure has a couple of production flaws. Due to a combination of three places on the figure having too much plastic, Ironhide's head assembly does not have the clearance to rise up fully, and it ends up looking like he's hanging his head in shame. However, with some heavy tinkering, the head can be raised to a more level, straight position [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transtopia-fix-universe-20-ironhides-low-self-esteem/14298/]. The paint on the car roof has also been reported to rub off over time, and can have a sticky feel to it.<br /> <br /> : This mold was retooled to make [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Ratchet]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Ratchet]] (surprising absolutely no one), plus [[BotCon 2012]]'s [[Soundwave (SG)#TLSoundwave|Sir Soundwave]]. This toy also served as the model for the [[Ironhide (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation]] of Ironhide.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Universe Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Henkei! Henkei!''===<br /> [[File:Henkei Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He still has the head, and the stripe too.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008-[[November 20|11-20]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''C-11'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Converting Cannon<br /> <br /> :''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ironhide is a redeco of ''Universe'' Ironhide, with a view to making him far more accurate to his [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] appearance. To this end, a generally darker shade of red plastic and lighter gray plastic are used. Additionally, the blue paint used for his opaque windows is a better match to his transparent blue windows than on Hasbro's ''Universe'' toy. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, Ironhide features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] silver for his headlights, brake lights and his Converting Cannon housing.<br /> <br /> :Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand can in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> :Same as the Universe version, or on Henkei Prowl, this mold too suffers from the paint on the car roof turning sticky even on room temperatures and coming off.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|&quot;I tell you what, you can take a safety course, and if you're still interested in guns after they've taken all the fun out of it, we'll go to the tournament.&quot;]]<br /> *'''Destruction Site Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''560'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : After being teased for over a year (see below), a [[Kreon]] Ironhide finally came out as part of the biggest ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' set yet. Based on the original character's cartoon model, Kreon Ironhide is the lone defender of a construction site playset against four full-sized [[Constructicon (Kre-O)|Constructicon]] brick-bots; [[Scrapper (Kre-O)|Scrapper]], [[Drill Bit (Kre-O)|Drill Bit]], [[Scavenger (Kre-O)|Scavenger]], and [[Hightower (Kre-O)|Hightower]].<br /> <br /> :He is in so much trouble.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|TRUDevastator}}<br /> [[File:Kre-O Autobot Assault Devastator set.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Autobot Assault Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''781'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Gunner, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : A [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] version of the [[Devastator (Kre-O)|Devastator]] set comes with both a Kreon Ironhide and a full-build brick Ironhide, which can be rebuilt from an armored pickup truck (calling back to the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'' [[Ironhide (WFC)|incarnation of the character]], itself modeled after the [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action film version]]) into a robot. The robot/truck build also features twin pressure-launch missile launchers, and a bonus human [[Gunner]] Kreon.<br /> <br /> :He is in slightly less trouble now.<br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Custom}}<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideCustomKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Custom Kreon, 2013)<br /> **''Set number'': '''A6086'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''38'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Rack, large cannon, disruptor pistol, gripper-claw, double-bladed staff<br /> <br /> : Part of the first assortment of &quot;Custom Kreons&quot;, this version of Ironhide comes with a buildable parts rack on which to hang/store his many many extra pieces. His [[tampograph]]s are much more heavily-detailed than the original Kreon, based on the [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 1|original Ironhide toy]]. His &quot;normal&quot; helmet and large cannon (originally from ''Kre-O [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'') are [[chrome]]d, plus he comes with an extra clear-plastic helmet, torso and legs. He also has a pair of extra arms (originally from the ''Kre-O Battleship'' aliens), plus a buildable cannon based around the aforementioned chrome gun, a small pistol (originally a [[Klingon]] disruptor from ''Kre-O [[Star Trek]]''), a bendable gripping-claw, and a double-headed staff weapon.<br /> <br /> : Take extreme care with the chrome rifle/clear-plastic barrel combination, as attaching the two pieces will pretty much guarantee stress fractures on the clear-plastic barrel.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SDCC2014}}<br /> [[File:SDCC2014_KreonClassof1984_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, 2014)<br /> **''Set number'': '''B0090'''<br /> **''Voted'': Best Bot to Bring Home to [[Primus]]<br /> **''Accessories'': Assault rifle<br /> <br /> : This version of Ironhide, has a different set of toy-based tampographs (with a very cartoon-based face), though his plastic colors are based more on the original cartoon model. He has oddly been given a [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Wheeljack]] wing-pack, despite neither the toy or cartoon giving him wings.<br /> <br /> :He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the &quot;[[Kreon Class of 1984]]&quot;. Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Class of 1984 Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BattleChanger}}<br /> [[File:BattleChangerIronhide.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Battle Changers, 2017)<br /> **''Set Number'': '''B5586/B0714'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''73'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Sniper rifle<br /> <br /> :Popped outta nowhere without any announcement from Hasbro itself, Battle Changer Ironhide is a brick-built robot centered around a modified Kreon torso, transforming from robot to off-road truck and back without removing any parts. <br /> <br /> : Like his wavemate [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#BattleChanger|Megatron]], he was only available at &quot;discount&quot; stores, first appearing at Dollar General, and then [[Walgreens]] for the holiday season.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Bot Shots''===<br /> [[File:BotShots launcher Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Launcher''' (Launcher, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''BL003'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''505'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''235'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''880'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 launchers, Ironhide is a teeny pickup truck (with spoiler) with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his front bumper is pressed. He has a &quot;spinner&quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His alternate mode and chest design are based on [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie Ironhide]], with his head being based on the original Generation 1 Ironhide. <br /> <br /> :He comes with a large trailer that pops open into a battle station with a pair of articulated buzzsaw-arms, and a spring-loaded vehicle launching ramp. The cannons on top of the trailer are based on live-action movie Ironhide's cannons.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)#Bot Shots|Super Bot Dirt Boss]], [[Hound (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Blitz Shot Autobot Hound]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Bot Shots|Swindle]]. His main truck body, arms, and legs are also used by [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Autobot Ratchet]] and [[First Aid (G1)#Bot Shots|Protectobot First Aid]]. His launcher was redecoed into ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' Ratchet's [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#RescueBase|Rescue Base]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSLIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Launcher Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3packSuperBot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots 3pack Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Decepticon Brawl / Shockwave / Ironhide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''Super Bot 007'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''305 '''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''970'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''350'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a &quot;Super Bot&quot; [[redeco]] of Ironhide, meaning he is cast in translucent plastic and has more lopsided strength ratings. He comes with [[Brawl (Movie)#BotShotS13Pack|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Shockwave (Movie)#Bot Shots|Shockwave]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Super Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Single}}<br /> [[File:BotShots single Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B012'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''500'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''670'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''450'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''Bot Shots'' single-packs, this is a live-action movie-style redeco of Ironhide in black and bluish-silver, with orange windows.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on single-pack Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SpinShot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots Spinshot Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B002'''<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hisao Nishimoto]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> ::*''Fist strength'': '''845'''<br /> ::*''Blaster strength'': '''210'''<br /> ::*''Sword strength'': '''570'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 single-packs, Ironhide is a new Spin Shot version decoed in red not unlike ''Generation 1'' Ironhide. As a Spin Shot, one manually winds up his upper body beforehand when transforming him into vehicle mode, where striking the front of the vehicle will cause him to burst open and spin while auto-transforming.<br /> <br /> :This mold was redecoed into [[Kup (G1)/toys|Sergeant Kup]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Spin Shot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BotShotPolarAssaultTeam}}<br /> [[File:BotShots PolarAssault Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I've heard of snow tires but ''this'' is ridiculous!]]<br /> *'''Polar Assault Team''' (Multi-pack, 2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''T004'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''750'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''265'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''600'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 five-packs, this redeco of the original Ironhide toy in bluish dark-grey, with white wheels and orange eyes. He comes in a five pack with similarly-themed redecos of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Mirage]], and [[Jetfire (G1)#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Jetfire]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSPAIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Polar Assault Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ===''BeCool''===<br /> [[File:BotShots_BeCool_BlackOffRoadCarIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Black Off Road Car (Ironhide)''' (2012)<br /> **''ID number'': '''B10'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' &quot;Black Off Road Car&quot; is practically identical to the single-packed black ''Bot Shots'' Ironhide toy, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode off-roading, a tire and a wrench.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Construct-Bots''===<br /> [[File:Construct-bot_ironhide_stock.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|A truck... sure, sure...]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Scout, 2013)<br /> **''Pieces: '''45'''<br /> : Part of Wave 1 of Construct-Bots Scouts, Ironhide can transform into a truck. Most of his parts debuted with him, however his head is a retool of [[Blitzwing (G1)#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]'s, switching his angry face with a grin. His large gun is also from Blitzwing.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CBIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Construct-Bots'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Specialist}}<br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generationstoy specialist ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Specialist: Autobots''' (Multi-pack, [[March 25]], 2014)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Converting cannon<br /> <br /> :''Universe'' Ironhide was re-released in a three-pack with ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]] and ''Universe'' [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]], available from Hasbro Asia and [[TakaraTomy Mall]]. All three Autobots feature new metallic paint decos, and the set's [[package art]] links up to the contemporaneously-released &quot;Specialist: Decepticons&quot; set to form a complete image. At selected stores in Asia, the set was available with a free Autobot insignia earphone cap plug.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Combiner Wars''===<br /> [[File:CWDlxIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't expect him to be repainted with [[Offroad (CW)|black/grey colors]] with [[Ironhide (Movie)|cannons]] added. [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Really]].]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2015)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Axe, &quot;super-cooled nitrogen/white-hot molten lead&quot; dual cannon/hand/foot/engine<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ironhide is a redeco/new-head retool of [[Offroad (CW)#Toys|Decepticon Offroad]], which transforms from a 4x4 double-cab pickup truck which is reminiscent of his [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] to robot and back! As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe figure he can form a combined-mode limb for any Voyager Class toys from the same subline or any ''Unite Warriors'' figure or into one of [[Godbomber#Legends|''Legends'' Godbomber]]'s legs but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sunstreaker, Mirage, Prowl, and Optimus Prime to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Toys|Optimus Maximus]]. He is also officially associated with [[Betatron (CW)|Betatron]] and [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]. A sticker sheet was sold at [[BotCon 2016]] to enhance Ironhide's resemblance to the original ''Beast Wars'' figure. <br /> <br /> :He includes a [[5 mm post|5mm handle]] axe weapon, and a larger accessory that can form a hand or foot in limb mode, a gun for robot mode, and can be mounted on a tab in the vehicle mode's truck bed to form a giant engine block. In an unadvertised feature, the peg on his engine weapon is the right size to mount a [[Mini-Con]] on.<br /> <br /> :While the front hood/windshields are needed to be folded as kneecaps for his leg mode, the piece also sticks out automatically if he collides to Optimus Prime/Motormaster's (or and of Hot Spot's redecoes/retools) protruding foot while the legs are being swiveled in his standing position, unless the leg joints are bent down to lessen the problem.<br /> <br /> : Hilariously, the robot mode [[stock photography|stock photo]] depicting a hand-painted [[prototype]] that's featured on the back of the toy's packaging is missing the wheel on his right leg.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide is packed with the comic book &quot;[[First Contact (IDW)|First Contact]]&quot;, rebranded as ''Combiner Wars'' #15. In Canada, Latin America, and Europe, he was available in different types of [[multilingual packaging]] including a character card featuring his comic book cover/[[package art]] instead. He and the last three waves of Combiner Wars Deluxe and Voyager figures later started showing up at TJ Maxx at reduced prices with the collector card.<br /> <br /> :As a part of the third and fourth wave promotion in Hasbro's Asian markets, a free sticker sheet for the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] was given out when purchasing any four Deluxe Class toys from those waves. As such, Ironhide was given Generation 1 toy-esque stickers for the owner to apply if they wanted.&lt;ref&gt;[https://news.tfw2005.com/2015/08/28/transformers-combiner-wars-sticker-sheet-for-wave-3-and-4-figures-300471 Protectobot and Optimus Maximus sticker promotion on TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The original sculpt was redecoed as [[Ruckus (G1)#Generations|Grabuge]], heavily retooled as [[First Aid (G1)#Generations|First Aid]] and differently retooled as [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Trailbreaker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I run on Propane and propane accessories.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2016]]-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QTF-07'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ironhide transforms from a licensed [[super deformed]] Toyota HiAce to a cute grumpy little robot.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Q-Transformers'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:MP27-Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|The G1 Ironhide you always wanted. Except with hip kibble. And a beer gut. And a long face.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2016-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-27'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 Laser pistols, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, missile, 2 alternate hands, 4 nozzles, wrist [[sonodar]], chest screen, jetpack, 2 flare effects, battle sled, 2 faces<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> : ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ironhide is a new mold that transforms into a licensed Cherry Vanette. He is in the standard Masterpiece [[scale]] (since [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-9]]), standing between MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|Convoy]] and MP-12 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Lambor]] in bot mode and can fit inside [[Combat Deck (G1)#MP10|Convoy's trailer]] in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> : He comes with a bunch of accessories referencing many of the gadgets he used in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Ironhide's [[character model]] did not include any weapons or other extra tools or devices, meaning there was little to no consistency in the depiction of his armament in the series; as such, the toy picks and chooses from the many weapons and accoutrements he was seen using. He includes a pair of generic Autobot laser pistols of the same design as the gun that came with ''Masterpiece'' Bumblebee (which Ironhide began using in &quot;[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]&quot;) which can be stored on the underside of his vehicle mode, a larger gun based on his original toy's Static Laser Gun (similar weapons having been seen in &quot;[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]&quot; and &quot;[[A Prime Problem]]&quot;), a set of alternate hands representing his ability to spray liquids through his fingertips (done in multiple episodes), a set of nozzles that can be exchanged for his hands based on those seen in &quot;[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]&quot;, a second set of nozzles based not on anything from the cartoon, but on the ''connector peg'' for his Static Laser Gun from his original toy, the back-mounded missile launcher from &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; based on his original toy's launcher, his wrist-mounted sonodar sensor dish from &quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&quot;, complimented by a readout image of dinosaur bones that can be slipped behind his windshield, and the jetpack seen in &quot;[[The Immobilizer]]&quot;, complete with jet-flare effects. A peg hole on the roof of his vehicle mode can hold one of the laser pistols or the Static Laser Gun.<br /> <br /> :Since ''Masterpiece'' Ironhide's robot mode incorporates the entire vehicle mode, a separate &quot;battle sled&quot; piece has been included, based on the component of the original toy, that can store all of Ironhide's accessories, including a second face piece that stores on the underside of the sled. In an additional nod to the original G1 toy, specifically its lack of a proper head, there is a sculpted detail resembling the &quot;face&quot; decal that went on the seat of the original toy that is visible through the windshield in van mode, that gets tucked away in robot mode.<br /> <br /> : There have been reports that the first release of the mold's chrome parts suffer from early corrosion similar to the issues encountered with the initial MP-5 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MP5|Megatron]].<br /> <br /> :If purchased from a seller supplied by Hasbro Asia, Ironhide includes a collector coin, mounted in a card which resembles the front of his van mode. It may have also included a [[die-cast]] drill accessory, based on the one he used in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot;. The drill accessory came in a small case styled to resemble a tool case.&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/14/masterpiece-ironhide-asia-exclusive-drill-accessory-images-324829 Masterpiece Ironhide Asia exclusive drill accessory images]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Masterpiece'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Unite Warriors''===<br /> [[File:TF-UW05-Ironhide.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]<br /> *'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (giftset, [[February 27]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''UW-05'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Weapons, 4 Gun/Fist/Foots<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Unite Warriors|Convoy Grand Prime]] set, Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). <br /> <br /> :Compared to the ''Combiner Wars'' release, Ironhide has numerous changes in deco to better match his look in the Generation 1 cartoon: While he shares an identical paint mask to the ''Combiner Wars'' figure, his black [[Unpaintable plastic|unpaintable parts]] are now in the same shade of light grey. Other changes include the stripes being yellow-y orange, a black paint is added on the front roof, and his gunmetal paint on the hood &amp; wheel rims are now silver.<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===<br /> [[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally, the (good) Classics Ironhide we've all wanted!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2019]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-S21'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-17'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[April 27]], 2019'''<br /> **''Hidden message code'': '''TRITHYLLIUM'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher&quot;<br /> :Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Ironhide transforms from robot to Cybertronian van and back. His vehicle mode takes several design cues from ''Titans Return'' [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]], though it shares no parts or engineering with the mold. In keeping with the ''War For Cybertron'' trilogy's concerns with scale, Ironhide is a full head taller than most of his Deluxe-priced mates. He includes a gigantic missile launcher cannon called the &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher,&quot; compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]], that can also convert into an equally gigantic hammer. As with all non-gimmick ''Siege'' figures, Ironhide features &lt;!--a more subdued color scheme than his other figures, as well as--&gt; &quot;battle damage&quot; paint applications on his lower shins, feet, and weapon. He also features multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate &quot;Fire Blasts&quot; from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. <br /> <br /> :Ironhide suffers from a production flaw that causes the molded hinges on his legs to be too small to properly house the side panels from his vehicle mode, causing them to pop off at the slightest pressure. This can be resolved by removing the panels and using a small screwdriver to carefully widen the pegholes, which creates enough clearance to properly house the panels within the hinges.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Deseeus Army Drone#Toys|Deseeus Army Drone]], given a new head as [[Crosshairs (G1)#Generations|Crosshairs]], and retooled into [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ratchet]]. The mold was also extensively retooled into ''Earthrise'' Ironhide (below).<br /> <br /> ::*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xU9CKYarz4 Official conversion video at the TRANSFORMERS OFFICIAL YouTube channel]''<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===<br /> [[File:TF-Generations-WFC-E-Autobot-Alliance-2-Pack-Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The '''better''' Classics Ironhide we truly want.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Alliance 2-Pack''' (Multi-pack, [[2020]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-E31'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''ER EX-18'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 20]], [[2021]]'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Pistol, Roof/Shield<br /> {{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Released in the &quot;Autobot Alliance&quot; 2-Pack with [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Prowl]] in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' toyline, Ironhide is an extensive retooling of his ''Siege'' counterpart, transforming into a van similar to his original Nissan mode. He features a new chest/windshield, bumper, lower arms, and leg panels, as well as a roof piece that converts into a shield in robot mode. While similar to the Siege version's head, the toy's head is also new, remolded to have less detailing and to be more cartoon accurate. In lieu of the Doomblast Forge Launcher (which this figure can wield if you wish), the shield can also become a giant four-barreled cannon. For a little extra firepower, Ironhide also comes with a smaller pistol. Conveniently, this gun can be stored on the underside of the shield, tucking away neatly in van mode.<br /> <br /> :Although the figure features molded windows in van mode, said windows lack any paint, tampographs, or decals for color, which causes inconsistencies when combined with the translucent plastic from the roof to complete them. Similar to the ''Siege'' iteration, the figure's robot mode feet stick out conspicuously from the van mode's backside. Lastly, Ironhide's red color is visibly inconsistent throughout the combined figure, with some parts appearing more pink than red against the darker red pieces.<br /> <br /> :The Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; is sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]. ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]] includes ''Earthrise'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Cliffjumper]]'s bazooka redecoed in green, matching Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, effectively adding another weapon to this Ironhide toy's arsenal.<br /> <br /> :The map piece that comes with Ironhide and Prowl is the mysterious [[Nebulan|Nebulon]] Station.<br /> <br /> :This pack was exclusive to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] in the United States, Canada and Europe.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Generations Selects]] [[DK-2 Guard]].<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Studio Series''===<br /> [[File:TF-Studio-Series-86-Voyager-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The '''BEST''' Classics Ironhide we could possibly g– where's the stripe?]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''Movie'': '''''The Transformers: The Movie'''''<br /> **''Hasbro ID number'': '''86-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 laser pistols, &quot;Decepticon Shuttle Ambush&quot; backdrop<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Redone at the Voyager Class price point, ''[[Studio Series]]'' Ironhide is an attempt to improve the faults of the ''Earthrise'' version (while also being a general retail item instead of an [[Amazon]] exclusive). Though he is a similar size to that previous toy, the advanced transformation engineering means he doesn't have feet sticking out of the back of the vehicle mode, and requires no [[Partsformer|partsforming]].<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, he lacks the signature yellow stripe on the sides of his vehicle mode. Unpainted translucent blue tabs also stick out the top of the vehicle mode roof, likely meant to secure a lightbar for a future Ratchet retool.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide comes with dual laser pistols, which can store on his back, on the back of his legs, on top of his van mode, or under it as exhaust pipes. <br /> <br /> :Optionally, Ironhide's Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; which was sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]; as well as ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]]'s green bazooka (which was reminiscent of Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;), can both be used with this figure even though these weapons cannot accommodate with Ironhide's vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :He also includes a display backdrop depicting the scene from the '86 movie where he made his last stand against invading Decepticons aboard the Autobot Shuttle.<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Ironhide decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9|Rubber-hide]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (Decoy multi-pack, 1985)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Decoy, 1987)<br /> **''Decoy number'': 7<br /> <br /> : The Ironhide figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Decoy Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Super Collection Figure''===<br /> [[File:SCF Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ironhide had torso reduction surgery for this role.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2001)<br /> **''Act'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand<br /> <br /> : A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Ironhide was available in the third &quot;act&quot; of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. His pistol and nozzle-tipped-fingers left hand are modeled after his appearance in &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&quot;, though the pistol is painted black rather than light gray as in the episode. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless clear plastic version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.<br /> <br /> : In two out of every ten cases, the full-color version of Ironhide came packaged with the left leg of the wave's collectable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Fortress Maximus]] &quot;build-a-figure&quot;. This part itself could be in either full color or clear plastic, packed at an equal 1:1 ratio.<br /> <br /> : This figure was slightly [[retool]]ed to make ''SCF'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Ratchet]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/SCFIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/ClearIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide (Clear Version) on TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Heroes of Cybertron''===<br /> [[File:HOC Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2003)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's ''Super Collection Figure'' PVC was released the following year by Hasbro in the third wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide was given a [[light-piping]] gimmick by being cast entirely in translucent blue plastic then painted everywhere except on his eyes and the back of his head. <br /> <br /> : Unlike the Japanese version, he was sold separate on a blister card, and came with a [[bio]] card packed in the bubble.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Hard Hero===<br /> [[File:HardHero G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Go, Simba! Join the circle of life!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2002)<br /> <br /> : This cold-cast porcelain 6-inch tall bust was sculpted by Jason Ray, and is based very heavily upon Ironhide's cartoon appearance. A signed artist's proof version was available, limited to 100 pieces.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Attacktix''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-atx.jpg|thumb|[[Signal Lancer]] would soon rethink teaming up with Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Booster, &lt;s&gt;2007&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was likely to have been one of several ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' Booster pieces. Though displayed as part of the ''Attacktix'' display at the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' &quot;Celebration IV&quot; convention, he —and all the other pieces revealed at the show— were ultimately never released.<br /> <br /> {{canceledattacktix}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Boss Coffee===<br /> [[File:BossCoffee ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :A non-transforming PVC figure of Ironhide was released as part of a promotion by [[Boss Coffee]]. The small figure was randomly included with single cans of the company's &quot;Rainbow Mountain Blend&quot; coffee, contained in a plastic capsule affixed to the top of can which then became a display base for the figurine once removed. Ironhide features articulation at the shoulders and waist, and came with a small catalog leaflet that could be folded up and attached to the lid/base to form a diorama background for added display value.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br /> [[File:DiamondSelect G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Proof that EVERY Wave 1 Autobot had a shoulder cannon.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2009)<br /> <br /> :Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Ironhide was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. This detailed bust is based on Ironhide's (you guessed it) cartoon/comic model, but with much more detailing and with elements of his toy design. These include his vehicle sled's missile launcher mounted on his shoulder, his wielding of his sled's static laser gun and his original Diaclone &quot;face&quot; being present behind his windshield. In addition to the missile launcher being removable his open left hand can be replaced with a hand gripping his cartoon pistol for two handed &quot;chop busting.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Robot Heroes''===<br /> [[File:Robotheroesironhidekickback.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Stop copying me!&quot; &quot;Stop copying me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Ironhide &amp; Kickback''' (Two-pack, 2008)<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Part of the &quot;Generation 1 Series&quot; of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this adorably happy figurine of Ironhide is ready to pound his packmate [[Kickback (G1)#Robot Heroes|Kickback]] into metal filings. He features articulation in his neck and shoulders.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Figure Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF-Transformers-Figure-Collection-Ironhide-Decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|''Rubber-hide ver.2.0'']]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (01-2016)<br /> <br /> :Standing 42mm tall, ''Transformers Figure Collection'' Ironhide is a non-poseable soft-rubber figure based on a [[Decoy]] figure.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Bitfig===<br /> [[File:Bitfig-Ironhide.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (06-2017)<br /> <br /> Part of the second wave of Transformers Bitfig capsule toys.<br /> Ironhide's design is inspired by his appearance in the G1 cartoon, and is articulated at the neck and shoulders.<br /> Bitfig toys were packaged in capsules color coded to the toy they contained.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===''Keshi Surprise''===<br /> *'''Autobots''' (2018)<br /> <br /> :The ''[[Keshi Surprise]]'' series by [[Super7]] consisted of 1.75&quot; soft rubber figures in a style deliberately resembling the 1980s [[Decoy]]s. These [[blind-packed]] figures were sold individually or in cases depicting only their faction. Ironhide was available in red, yellow, blue, and purple and included a foil trading sticker.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===<br /> [[File:W1SIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' (2018)<br /> **'''Wave 1S: Starter Set''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T02/T04'''<br /> **''Stars: ''6<br /> :'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' is one of four double-sided character cards available in the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Starter Set.<br /> <br /> :The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W2Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''UT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T28/T46'''<br /> **''Stars: ''7<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler was released as part of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners. Like all other members of [[combiner]] teams released in the set, Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler is a folding card, with the Bot and Alt modes being depicted when the card is folded in half, and a holofoil portion of the the combined mode depicted when unfolded. The reverse of Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler depicts the lower left portion of [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus']], of whom Ironhide forms the left leg. <br /> <br /> :The artwork for Alt Mode is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game, while the Bot Mode artwork uses the [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]] Ironhide figure's packaging art.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler can be used to form Optimus Maximus, Ultimate Defender with the use of the Action card [[Enigma of Combination|Sentinel Enigma]] while he and the other Wave 2 Sentinels are in Bot mode on the battlefield and/or KO area.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W3CaptainIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T03/T48'''<br /> **''Stars: ''9<br /> :Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.<br /> <br /> :The card's artwork is based on the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Ironhide toy, with the Bot Mode artwork being reused from the toy's packaging art, and original artwork for Alt Mode, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]] and colors by [[Gunship Rev]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Imaginarium Art===<br /> [[File:ImaginariumMegatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Irondied]]<br /> *'''Megatron''' (2019)<br /> **''Accessories'': Energy flail<br /> <br /> :[[Imaginarium Art]]'s [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise|Megatron]] statue stands 25 inches tall atop a base of Ironhide's dead body. The eyes and fusion cannon can light up. Only 500 were produced. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Eaglemoss===<br /> * '''Transformers Gen-1 Chess Set''' (&lt;s&gt;2021&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> :In the planned [[Chess#Eaglemoss|Transformers Chess Set]] by [[Eaglemoss]], a relatively large and very well detailed statue of Iron Hide {{sic}} was slated to be one of the Rook pieces on the Autobot side.<br /> <br /> :A Kickstarter campaign to raise the necessary funds for this project was launched, but failed to meet its goal by September 24, 2021 and the whole thing was canceled.<br /> {{canceledtoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Pop!''===<br /> '''Ironhide''' ([[Funko Pop!#Digital Pop! NFTs|Digital ''Pop!'']], 2022)<br /> *''Rarity:''<br /> **''Monochrome:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Static:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Glowing:'' '''Uncommon'''<br /> **''Chrome:'' '''Rare'''<br /> **''Original'': '''Epic'''<br /> :{{W|Non-fungible token|NFT}}s depicting Ironhide in the [[Funko Pop!|Funko]] style.<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery heights=200&gt;<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_MONOCHROME.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_STATIC.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_UNCOMMON_IRONHIDE_GLOW.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_RARE_IRONHIDE_REDCHROME.gif|Chromehide<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_EPIC_IRONHIDE_ORIGINAL.gif<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Jada Toys===<br /> [[File:JadaNanoMetalfigsG1-18pack.jpg|upright=1.44|thumb]]<br /> *'''Transformers Series 1 18-pack''' (4cm Die Cast Figure Multipack, 2022)<br /> :Released by [[Jada Toys]], ''Nano Metalfigs'' Ironhide is an incredibly small die-cast figurine molded doing an action pose. He has a little base attached to his feet for balancing reasons.<br /> <br /> :He comes in an impressive multipack with [[Jada Toys#Nano Metalfigs|seventeen other figurines]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Icon Heroes===<br /> *'''Grimlock X Ironhide Retro Pin Set''' (2022)<br /> : A hard enamel pin based on Ironhide's original G1 package art made by Icon Heroes. It comes carded with a [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Icon Heroes|Grimlock]] pin.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:Generation2LightSpeed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|You have to be pretty desperate to copy Blowout's motto.]]<br /> *The black ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Ironhide was sold by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in North America as the ''[[Diakron]]'' &quot;DK-2&quot; Car/Robot in 1983, seemingly just a few months before he would be rebranded as a Transformer.<br /> *An early version of [[Power Master]] Ironhide's artwork in blue and yellow was used on packaging mock-ups displayed around [[Hasbro]]'s headquarters bearing the names &quot;Light Speed&quot;, &quot;Belzone&quot;, and &quot;Pothole&quot;, though no release of these toys was ever intended.<br /> *A mock-up of a new [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] toy in the form of a ''Universe'' (2008) Ironhide redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Camshaft claimed only 1.6% of the votes, leaving him in second-to-last place.&lt;ref&gt;[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *In the first year of ''[[Kre-O]]'', long before Devastator's set was released, an Ironhide Kreon was included in a turntable display of Kreons found in some retail outlets, often labeled as Sideswipe. He taunted you.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Attacktix]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Bitfig]]<br /> [[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Construct-Bots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]<br /> [[Category:Unite Warriors Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Universe (2008)]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Earthrise Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ironhide_(G1)/toys&diff=1650793 Ironhide (G1)/toys 2022-11-13T05:08:31Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Studio Series */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|This is what Ironhide's toys took 32 years to look like.]]<br /> <br /> '''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]''' is a bot of many toys, all of which are tough customers.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> [[File:G1 Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Kōjin Ōno]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was part of the original assortment of [[Autobot]] cars released in 1984, transforming into a red Nissan Sunny-Vanette Coach SGL and sharing his mold with the contemporaneously released [[Ratchet (G1)/toys|Ratchet]]. Ironhide splits when he transforms, with most of the rear section of his van mode transforming into a [[Onebox component|battle platform]], and the remainder becoming his rather misshapen, headless robot form. The robot can mount onto the battle platform, which is armed with a raising missile launcher and front-mounted &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;. Unusually for toys of this period, the Static Laser Gun can actually store when Ironhide is in vehicle mode, plugging into his undercarriage (although the missiles for his launcher and the peg required to attach the laser don't go anywhere).<br /> <br /> :As with all his fellow Autobot Cars from that year, Ironhide's mold derived from [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, a series which was ''not'' about sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines. The Ironhide and Ratchet molds are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this: in place of a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. The figures did include [[sticker]]s to go over these seats that depicted a sort of robot face, but when Ironhide and Ratchet's [[character model]]s were created for ''Transformers'' media, all traces of the human-controlled design were removed to give the robots proper faces and heads, ultimately creating the two designs which diverged the most from the toys on which they were ostensibly based. <br /> <br /> :The stripe on the side of his vehicle mode (a sticker on the toy) is actually based on a special edition of the Nissan Cherry Vanette. On the real vehicle, the rear section (which is black on the toy's sticker) is actually the sliding rear door rail.&lt;ref name=&quot;stripe&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/438046-g1-ironhides-stripes-explained.html &quot;G1 Ironhide's Stripes...EXPLAINED!&quot;] at TFW2005&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : For unknown reasons, Ironhide was the only Autobot Car not released by Takara as part of their [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|original retail line]] in any form (while Ratchet was not available at retail, he was available as a [[S.T.A.R.S.]] mail away item). Ironhide was reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-ironhide/71/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Ironhide at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/autobot/1984/instr_ironhide.jpg Instruction booklet for Ironhide at Botchthecrab.com]''<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|90sClassic}}<br /> [[File:G1toy classic heroes ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Gold box Onebox]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Classic Heroes, [[1990]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :The original Ironhide toy was first reissued in 1990 alongside several other early Transformers as part of the European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|''Classics'']] range. He was functionally identical to his original release.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generation 2''===<br /> [[File:G2Gobot Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Not a Gateway.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Go-Bot, [[1995]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' Gun<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on Generation 1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle construction for his wheels, he is compatible with most &quot;Hot Wheels&quot; and &quot;Matchbox&quot; play sets and tracks. <br /> <br /> : The mold is a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)/toys|Hoist]].<br /> <br /> : The toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] to be a [[Ironhide (G2)|&quot;next-generation&quot; clone of Ironhide]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Go-Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''{{G2MotormouthMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|PowerMaster}}<br /> [[File:G2-toy IronhidePM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Technically always in vehicle mode!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> <br /> :[[Power Master]] Ironhide transforms into a khaki camouflaged-and-armored Humvee. His main gimmick is his &quot;Power Master&quot; pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.<br /> <br /> :The Power Masters were the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and were only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address. They also conspicuously lack any mention of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in their stamped-on [[copyright]] information.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/IronhideEur/ironhide.htm More information on Power Master Ironhide at TFU.info]<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Beast Wars''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-bw-magnaboss-toy.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Yes, this Alien-faced monstrosity certainly screams out &quot;G1 Ironhide&quot;! Who could possibly think otherwise?!]]<br /> *'''Magnaboss''' (Ultra Class three-pack, [[1997]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 guns<br /> {{note|The elephant Ironhide toy represents both the original Autobot and a [[Ironhide (BW)|latter-day Maximal]].}}<br /> <br /> : ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Ironhide transforms from an elephant via a rather complex process involving numerous hinges and unfolding panels into a rather stumpy robot. Although dumpy, he is nothing if not well-armed: he has a flip-out spike at the end of each arm, and comes with two removable guns that flip out from behind his elephant mode ears, and which can be plugged into the holes at the ends of his arms. Ironhide is packaged with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and combines with them to form his [[Magnaboss (BW)#Toys|Magnaboss]]. Ironhide forms the bulk of the combiner's mass, including all four limbs.<br /> <br /> :The Magnaboss toy included no information about its three components beyond their names. In 2007, [[IDW Publishing]] decided to retroactively establish that the trio were the ''Generation 1'' characters of the same names, and included this revelation in their ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]''.<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon#Toys|Santon]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Beast Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Collector's Edition''===<br /> [[File:G1toy collectors edition ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[June]] [[2001]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''98'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was made available in Japan for the first time as part of the ''[[The Transformers: Collector's Edition|Collector's Edition]]'' line of reissues, available exclusively from online retailer [[e-HOBBY]] in a two-pack with mold-mate Ratchet. As the first Japanese edition of Ironhide, this was the first time the toy had been given a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]].<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Timelines''===<br /> [[File:TL-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Red, red, and also red.]]<br /> *'''Descent into Evil''' (Multi-figure boxset, 2005)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Radar assembly/energon weapon, battle sled<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Ironhide is a [[retool]]ing and [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)#Toys|Tow-Line]], transforming from a van of indeterminate, probably made-up model, into a robot and separate treaded [[Onebox component|battle sled]], each featuring [[powerlinx]] ports that allow them to combine with any other compatible Deluxe or Mega from the ''Energon'' toyline. Ironhide himself forms the &quot;torso&quot; in such a combination (armed with small guns that flip out from his feet to become over-shoulder blasters), while his battle sled becomes the &quot;legs&quot; for another robot. And of course, Ironhide can powerlinx with his own battle sled. <br /> <br /> : He was only available in the [[BotCon 2005]] exclusive ''[[Descent into Evil]]'' boxset, which also includes [[Buzzclaw (G1)#Toys|Buzzclaw]], [[Chromia (G1)#Timelines|Chromia]], [[Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)#Toys|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)#Timelines|Fallback]], and [[Ricochet (Timelines)#Toys|Ricochet]].<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's retooled mold was also used to make ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ratchet]]; they shared a new head mold, which combined elements of both of their designs, including Ironhide's head crest and Ratchet's forehead chevron. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Timelines Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:Encoretoy-Ironhidewithhead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|His head problem just became a shoulders problem.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2007]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's original Generation 1 toy was made available again in mid-December 2007 as part of Takara's ongoing ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' line of [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]]. This version was distinguished by the inclusion of a &quot;head&quot; of sorts for the figure: one of the toy's box flaps featured an illustration of Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield which could be punched out along its perforated edges, and then slotted behind the toy's windshield. This hid the &quot;chair-face&quot; of the original toy and gave Ironhide his cartoon face... at the cost of making his arms appear to grow out of his waist.<br /> <br /> :This version of the toy was [[retool]]ed to add a pair of &quot;clips&quot; to the [[Onebox component|mobile platform]]'s gun-base, designed to keep Ironhide more securely attached when riding it. However, these clips are right where a pair of decals normally go. Additionally, like the original Japanese release of the figure (but [[for safety reasons|unlike Hasbro's version]]), the missile launcher now fires.<br /> {{G1IronhideRatchetMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|black}}<br /> [[File:G1toy protect black ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Once you go black, you go back to red shortly afterwards.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Protect Black''' ([[2008]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''05'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Static Laser Gun&quot;, gun post, 3 missiles<br /> <br /> :Tied in to Ironhide's ''Encore'' reissue was e-HOBBY's [[exclusive]] &quot;New Year Special&quot; [[redeco]] of the figure: Ironhide Protect Black (アイアンハイドプロテクトブラック). The toy was priced at 4725 yen, and pre-orders were taken until [[January 11]], 2008, with a shipping date of April 2008.<br /> <br /> :The new [[bio]] accompanying the release of the toy notes that Ironhide acquired this protective black coating to disguise himself from both Decepticons and members of the [[human]] criminal underworld, to better allow him to do his job as Optimus Prime's bodyguard. The bio also gives a name to the &quot;mode&quot; that consists of Ironhide standing atop his artillery platform, dubbing it his &quot;Marauder Mode&quot;. <br /> <br /> :[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=034000000005&amp;search=%A5%A2%A5%A4%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%CF%A5%A4%A5%C9 According to e-HOBBY], the black coloration is meant to [[homage]] the original ''Diaclone'' toy which became Ironhide, but between the release of Ratchet Emergency Green and the bio's reference to black pickup trucks, it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys|live-action movie Ironhide]]. The packaging is the same as the regular ''Encore'' Ironhide's.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Cybertron/ProtectBlackIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Protect Black Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2008)===<br /> [[File:TFU08-toy Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, I found my head! And that makes me sad.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008)<br /> **''Series'': Classic Series<br /> **''Accessories'': &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; gun/blade<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> : As the first new-mold Ironhide toy designed to resemble the original character, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Ironhide transforms into a red SUV of made-up model. His chest features an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like gimmick that sees mechanical detailing rise up behind his chestplate when his bumper is lowered. He is armed with a double-ended &quot;Converting Cannon&quot; weapon, which deploys a translucent melee blade from one end, and a gatling cannon from the other. Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand ''can'' in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> <br /> : His [[stock photography]] (seen [[:File:Universe 2008 Ironhide Toy.jpg|here]]) shows him with a silver face and hubcaps, but as the final product shows, that didn't happen. While Hasbro claimed there would be a [[Variant|running change]] that would have the face in silver, no such change occurred. Speaking of packaging, Ironhide was also the first new ''Universe'' figure to have [[package art]] that wasn't burdened with [[dull surprise]].<br /> <br /> :As a nod to the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Generation 1 comics, Ironhide's license plate reads &quot;OREGON&quot;—the place that the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' crash-landed and the bulk of the first half of the comic takes place.<br /> <br /> : The figure has a couple of production flaws. Due to a combination of three places on the figure having too much plastic, Ironhide's head assembly does not have the clearance to rise up fully, and it ends up looking like he's hanging his head in shame. However, with some heavy tinkering, the head can be raised to a more level, straight position [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transtopia-fix-universe-20-ironhides-low-self-esteem/14298/]. The paint on the car roof has also been reported to rub off over time, and can have a sticky feel to it.<br /> <br /> : This mold was retooled to make [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Ratchet]] and ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Ratchet]] (surprising absolutely no one), plus [[BotCon 2012]]'s [[Soundwave (SG)#TLSoundwave|Sir Soundwave]]. This toy also served as the model for the [[Ironhide (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation]] of Ironhide.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Universe Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Henkei! Henkei!''===<br /> [[File:Henkei Ironhide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He still has the head, and the stripe too.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2008-[[November 20|11-20]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''C-11'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Converting Cannon<br /> <br /> :''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ironhide is a redeco of ''Universe'' Ironhide, with a view to making him far more accurate to his [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] appearance. To this end, a generally darker shade of red plastic and lighter gray plastic are used. Additionally, the blue paint used for his opaque windows is a better match to his transparent blue windows than on Hasbro's ''Universe'' toy. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, Ironhide features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] silver for his headlights, brake lights and his Converting Cannon housing.<br /> <br /> :Although the instructions indicate that Ironhide's weapon should be attached by flipping his hand to the side of his wrist (as in transformation) and fitting the weapon over the naked wrist, the hand can in fact be made to fit inside the weapon with some careful jiggling.<br /> :Same as the Universe version, or on Henkei Prowl, this mold too suffers from the paint on the car roof turning sticky even on room temperatures and coming off.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|&quot;I tell you what, you can take a safety course, and if you're still interested in guns after they've taken all the fun out of it, we'll go to the tournament.&quot;]]<br /> *'''Destruction Site Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''560'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : After being teased for over a year (see below), a [[Kreon]] Ironhide finally came out as part of the biggest ''[[Kre-O]] Transformers'' set yet. Based on the original character's cartoon model, Kreon Ironhide is the lone defender of a construction site playset against four full-sized [[Constructicon (Kre-O)|Constructicon]] brick-bots; [[Scrapper (Kre-O)|Scrapper]], [[Drill Bit (Kre-O)|Drill Bit]], [[Scavenger (Kre-O)|Scavenger]], and [[Hightower (Kre-O)|Hightower]].<br /> <br /> :He is in so much trouble.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|TRUDevastator}}<br /> [[File:Kre-O Autobot Assault Devastator set.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Autobot Assault Devastator''' (2012)<br /> **''Set number'': '''36914'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''781'''<br /> **''Kreons'': Devastator, Ironhide, Gunner, Foreman, three Construction Workers<br /> **''Accessories'': Small pistol<br /> <br /> : A [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] version of the [[Devastator (Kre-O)|Devastator]] set comes with both a Kreon Ironhide and a full-build brick Ironhide, which can be rebuilt from an armored pickup truck (calling back to the ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'' [[Ironhide (WFC)|incarnation of the character]], itself modeled after the [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action film version]]) into a robot. The robot/truck build also features twin pressure-launch missile launchers, and a bonus human [[Gunner]] Kreon.<br /> <br /> :He is in slightly less trouble now.<br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Custom}}<br /> [[File:KreO-Toy IronhideCustomKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Custom Kreon, 2013)<br /> **''Set number'': '''A6086'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''38'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Rack, large cannon, disruptor pistol, gripper-claw, double-bladed staff<br /> <br /> : Part of the first assortment of &quot;Custom Kreons&quot;, this version of Ironhide comes with a buildable parts rack on which to hang/store his many many extra pieces. His [[tampograph]]s are much more heavily-detailed than the original Kreon, based on the [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 1|original Ironhide toy]]. His &quot;normal&quot; helmet and large cannon (originally from ''Kre-O [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'') are [[chrome]]d, plus he comes with an extra clear-plastic helmet, torso and legs. He also has a pair of extra arms (originally from the ''Kre-O Battleship'' aliens), plus a buildable cannon based around the aforementioned chrome gun, a small pistol (originally a [[Klingon]] disruptor from ''Kre-O [[Star Trek]]''), a bendable gripping-claw, and a double-headed staff weapon.<br /> <br /> : Take extreme care with the chrome rifle/clear-plastic barrel combination, as attaching the two pieces will pretty much guarantee stress fractures on the clear-plastic barrel.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SDCC2014}}<br /> [[File:SDCC2014_KreonClassof1984_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Kreon Class of 1984''' (Kreon figure set, 2014)<br /> **''Set number'': '''B0090'''<br /> **''Voted'': Best Bot to Bring Home to [[Primus]]<br /> **''Accessories'': Assault rifle<br /> <br /> : This version of Ironhide, has a different set of toy-based tampographs (with a very cartoon-based face), though his plastic colors are based more on the original cartoon model. He has oddly been given a [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Wheeljack]] wing-pack, despite neither the toy or cartoon giving him wings.<br /> <br /> :He was only available in a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2014 [[exclusive]] pack of 30 Kreons dubbed the &quot;[[Kreon Class of 1984]]&quot;. Remaining stock was to be sold at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online, only there ''was'' no remaining stock after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/SDCCKre-OIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Class of 1984 Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BattleChanger}}<br /> [[File:BattleChangerIronhide.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Battle Changers, 2017)<br /> **''Set Number'': '''B5586/B0714'''<br /> **''Pieces'': '''73'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Sniper rifle<br /> <br /> :Popped outta nowhere without any announcement from Hasbro itself, Battle Changer Ironhide is a brick-built robot centered around a modified Kreon torso, transforming from robot to off-road truck and back without removing any parts. <br /> <br /> : Like his wavemate [[Megatron (WFC)/toys#BattleChanger|Megatron]], he was only available at &quot;discount&quot; stores, first appearing at Dollar General, and then [[Walgreens]] for the holiday season.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Bot Shots''===<br /> [[File:BotShots launcher Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide Launcher''' (Launcher, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''BL003'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''505'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''235'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''880'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 launchers, Ironhide is a teeny pickup truck (with spoiler) with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his front bumper is pressed. He has a &quot;spinner&quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His alternate mode and chest design are based on [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie Ironhide]], with his head being based on the original Generation 1 Ironhide. <br /> <br /> :He comes with a large trailer that pops open into a battle station with a pair of articulated buzzsaw-arms, and a spring-loaded vehicle launching ramp. The cannons on top of the trailer are based on live-action movie Ironhide's cannons.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)#Bot Shots|Super Bot Dirt Boss]], [[Hound (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Blitz Shot Autobot Hound]] and [[Swindle (G1)#Bot Shots|Swindle]]. His main truck body, arms, and legs are also used by [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Autobot Ratchet]] and [[First Aid (G1)#Bot Shots|Protectobot First Aid]]. His launcher was redecoed into ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' Ratchet's [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#RescueBase|Rescue Base]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSLIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Launcher Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3packSuperBot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots 3pack Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Decepticon Brawl / Shockwave / Ironhide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''Super Bot 007'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''305 '''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''970'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''350'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a &quot;Super Bot&quot; [[redeco]] of Ironhide, meaning he is cast in translucent plastic and has more lopsided strength ratings. He comes with [[Brawl (Movie)#BotShotS13Pack|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Shockwave (Movie)#Bot Shots|Shockwave]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Super Bot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Single}}<br /> [[File:BotShots single Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2012)<br /> **''Series'': '''1'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B012'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''500'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''670'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''450'''<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''Bot Shots'' single-packs, this is a live-action movie-style redeco of Ironhide in black and bluish-silver, with orange windows.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on single-pack Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|SpinShot}}<br /> [[File:BotShots Spinshot Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''B002'''<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hisao Nishimoto]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> ::*''Fist strength'': '''845'''<br /> ::*''Blaster strength'': '''210'''<br /> ::*''Sword strength'': '''570'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 single-packs, Ironhide is a new Spin Shot version decoed in red not unlike ''Generation 1'' Ironhide. As a Spin Shot, one manually winds up his upper body beforehand when transforming him into vehicle mode, where striking the front of the vehicle will cause him to burst open and spin while auto-transforming.<br /> <br /> :This mold was redecoed into [[Kup (G1)/toys|Sergeant Kup]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Spin Shot Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|BotShotPolarAssaultTeam}}<br /> [[File:BotShots PolarAssault Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I've heard of snow tires but ''this'' is ridiculous!]]<br /> *'''Polar Assault Team''' (Multi-pack, 2013)<br /> **''Series'': '''2'''<br /> **''Number'': '''T004'''<br /> ***''Fist strength'': '''750'''<br /> ***''Blaster strength'': '''265'''<br /> ***''Sword strength'': '''600'''<br /> <br /> :Part of the first wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 2 five-packs, this redeco of the original Ironhide toy in bluish dark-grey, with white wheels and orange eyes. He comes in a five pack with similarly-themed redecos of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Mirage]], and [[Jetfire (G1)#BotShotPolarAssaultTeam|Jetfire]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/BSPAIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Polar Assault Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ===''BeCool''===<br /> [[File:BotShots_BeCool_BlackOffRoadCarIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Black Off Road Car (Ironhide)''' (2012)<br /> **''ID number'': '''B10'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' &quot;Black Off Road Car&quot; is practically identical to the single-packed black ''Bot Shots'' Ironhide toy, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode off-roading, a tire and a wrench.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Construct-Bots''===<br /> [[File:Construct-bot_ironhide_stock.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|A truck... sure, sure...]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Scout, 2013)<br /> **''Pieces: '''45'''<br /> : Part of Wave 1 of Construct-Bots Scouts, Ironhide can transform into a truck. Most of his parts debuted with him, however his head is a retool of [[Blitzwing (G1)#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]'s, switching his angry face with a grin. His large gun is also from Blitzwing.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/CBIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Construct-Bots'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Specialist}}<br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generationstoy specialist ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Specialist: Autobots''' (Multi-pack, [[March 25]], 2014)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Converting cannon<br /> <br /> :''Universe'' Ironhide was re-released in a three-pack with ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]] and ''Universe'' [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]], available from Hasbro Asia and [[TakaraTomy Mall]]. All three Autobots feature new metallic paint decos, and the set's [[package art]] links up to the contemporaneously-released &quot;Specialist: Decepticons&quot; set to form a complete image. At selected stores in Asia, the set was available with a free Autobot insignia earphone cap plug.<br /> {{UniverseIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Combiner Wars''===<br /> [[File:CWDlxIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't expect him to be repainted with [[Offroad (CW)|black/grey colors]] with [[Ironhide (Movie)|cannons]] added. [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Really]].]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, 2015)<br /> **''Accessories:'' Axe, &quot;super-cooled nitrogen/white-hot molten lead&quot; dual cannon/hand/foot/engine<br /> <br /> : Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ironhide is a redeco/new-head retool of [[Offroad (CW)#Toys|Decepticon Offroad]], which transforms from a 4x4 double-cab pickup truck which is reminiscent of his [[Ironhide (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] to robot and back! As a ''Combiner Wars'' Deluxe figure he can form a combined-mode limb for any Voyager Class toys from the same subline or any ''Unite Warriors'' figure or into one of [[Godbomber#Legends|''Legends'' Godbomber]]'s legs but is, of course, intended to be combined with Sunstreaker, Mirage, Prowl, and Optimus Prime to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Toys|Optimus Maximus]]. He is also officially associated with [[Betatron (CW)|Betatron]] and [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]. A sticker sheet was sold at [[BotCon 2016]] to enhance Ironhide's resemblance to the original ''Beast Wars'' figure. <br /> <br /> :He includes a [[5 mm post|5mm handle]] axe weapon, and a larger accessory that can form a hand or foot in limb mode, a gun for robot mode, and can be mounted on a tab in the vehicle mode's truck bed to form a giant engine block. In an unadvertised feature, the peg on his engine weapon is the right size to mount a [[Mini-Con]] on.<br /> <br /> :While the front hood/windshields are needed to be folded as kneecaps for his leg mode, the piece also sticks out automatically if he collides to Optimus Prime/Motormaster's (or and of Hot Spot's redecoes/retools) protruding foot while the legs are being swiveled in his standing position, unless the leg joints are bent down to lessen the problem.<br /> <br /> : Hilariously, the robot mode [[stock photography|stock photo]] depicting a hand-painted [[prototype]] that's featured on the back of the toy's packaging is missing the wheel on his right leg.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide is packed with the comic book &quot;[[First Contact (IDW)|First Contact]]&quot;, rebranded as ''Combiner Wars'' #15. In Canada, Latin America, and Europe, he was available in different types of [[multilingual packaging]] including a character card featuring his comic book cover/[[package art]] instead. He and the last three waves of Combiner Wars Deluxe and Voyager figures later started showing up at TJ Maxx at reduced prices with the collector card.<br /> <br /> :As a part of the third and fourth wave promotion in Hasbro's Asian markets, a free sticker sheet for the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s and [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] was given out when purchasing any four Deluxe Class toys from those waves. As such, Ironhide was given Generation 1 toy-esque stickers for the owner to apply if they wanted.&lt;ref&gt;[https://news.tfw2005.com/2015/08/28/transformers-combiner-wars-sticker-sheet-for-wave-3-and-4-figures-300471 Protectobot and Optimus Maximus sticker promotion on TFW2005]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The original sculpt was redecoed as [[Ruckus (G1)#Generations|Grabuge]], heavily retooled as [[First Aid (G1)#Generations|First Aid]] and differently retooled as [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Trailbreaker]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I run on Propane and propane accessories.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' ([[2016]]-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QTF-07'''<br /> <br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Ironhide transforms from a licensed [[super deformed]] Toyota HiAce to a cute grumpy little robot.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Q-Transformers'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:MP27-Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|The G1 Ironhide you always wanted. Except with hip kibble. And a beer gut. And a long face.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2016-[[January 30|01-30]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-27'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 Laser pistols, Static Laser Gun, missile launcher, missile, 2 alternate hands, 4 nozzles, wrist [[sonodar]], chest screen, jetpack, 2 flare effects, battle sled, 2 faces<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> : ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Ironhide is a new mold that transforms into a licensed Cherry Vanette. He is in the standard Masterpiece [[scale]] (since [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-9]]), standing between MP-10 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|Convoy]] and MP-12 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Lambor]] in bot mode and can fit inside [[Combat Deck (G1)#MP10|Convoy's trailer]] in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> : He comes with a bunch of accessories referencing many of the gadgets he used in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Ironhide's [[character model]] did not include any weapons or other extra tools or devices, meaning there was little to no consistency in the depiction of his armament in the series; as such, the toy picks and chooses from the many weapons and accoutrements he was seen using. He includes a pair of generic Autobot laser pistols of the same design as the gun that came with ''Masterpiece'' Bumblebee (which Ironhide began using in &quot;[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1]]&quot;) which can be stored on the underside of his vehicle mode, a larger gun based on his original toy's Static Laser Gun (similar weapons having been seen in &quot;[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]&quot; and &quot;[[A Prime Problem]]&quot;), a set of alternate hands representing his ability to spray liquids through his fingertips (done in multiple episodes), a set of nozzles that can be exchanged for his hands based on those seen in &quot;[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]&quot;, a second set of nozzles based not on anything from the cartoon, but on the ''connector peg'' for his Static Laser Gun from his original toy, the back-mounded missile launcher from &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; based on his original toy's launcher, his wrist-mounted sonodar sensor dish from &quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&quot;, complimented by a readout image of dinosaur bones that can be slipped behind his windshield, and the jetpack seen in &quot;[[The Immobilizer]]&quot;, complete with jet-flare effects. A peg hole on the roof of his vehicle mode can hold one of the laser pistols or the Static Laser Gun.<br /> <br /> :Since ''Masterpiece'' Ironhide's robot mode incorporates the entire vehicle mode, a separate &quot;battle sled&quot; piece has been included, based on the component of the original toy, that can store all of Ironhide's accessories, including a second face piece that stores on the underside of the sled. In an additional nod to the original G1 toy, specifically its lack of a proper head, there is a sculpted detail resembling the &quot;face&quot; decal that went on the seat of the original toy that is visible through the windshield in van mode, that gets tucked away in robot mode.<br /> <br /> : There have been reports that the first release of the mold's chrome parts suffer from early corrosion similar to the issues encountered with the initial MP-5 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MP5|Megatron]].<br /> <br /> :If purchased from a seller supplied by Hasbro Asia, Ironhide includes a collector coin, mounted in a card which resembles the front of his van mode. It may have also included a [[die-cast]] drill accessory, based on the one he used in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot;. The drill accessory came in a small case styled to resemble a tool case.&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/14/masterpiece-ironhide-asia-exclusive-drill-accessory-images-324829 Masterpiece Ironhide Asia exclusive drill accessory images]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was retooled into ''Masterpiece'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Ratchet]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Unite Warriors''===<br /> [[File:TF-UW05-Ironhide.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb]]<br /> *'''Convoy Grand Prime''' (giftset, [[February 27]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''UW-05'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Weapons, 4 Gun/Fist/Foots<br /> <br /> :Released as part of the TakaraTomy Mall exclusive [[Optimus Maximus (G1)#Unite Warriors|Convoy Grand Prime]] set, Takara's iteration of ''Combiner Wars'' Optimus Maximus is sold in a gift set including all five Autobots (minus the Rodimus mold). <br /> <br /> :Compared to the ''Combiner Wars'' release, Ironhide has numerous changes in deco to better match his look in the Generation 1 cartoon: While he shares an identical paint mask to the ''Combiner Wars'' figure, his black [[Unpaintable plastic|unpaintable parts]] are now in the same shade of light grey. Other changes include the stripes being yellow-y orange, a black paint is added on the front roof, and his gunmetal paint on the hood &amp; wheel rims are now silver.<br /> {{CWOffroadMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===<br /> [[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Finally, the (good) Classics Ironhide we've all wanted!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2019]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-S21'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SG-17'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[April 27]], 2019'''<br /> **''Hidden message code'': '''TRITHYLLIUM'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher&quot;<br /> :Part of the second wave of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Deluxe Class figures, Ironhide transforms from robot to Cybertronian van and back. His vehicle mode takes several design cues from ''Titans Return'' [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]], though it shares no parts or engineering with the mold. In keeping with the ''War For Cybertron'' trilogy's concerns with scale, Ironhide is a full head taller than most of his Deluxe-priced mates. He includes a gigantic missile launcher cannon called the &quot;W-35 LR Doomblast Forge Launcher,&quot; compatible with the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]], that can also convert into an equally gigantic hammer. As with all non-gimmick ''Siege'' figures, Ironhide features &lt;!--a more subdued color scheme than his other figures, as well as--&gt; &quot;battle damage&quot; paint applications on his lower shins, feet, and weapon. He also features multiple hardpoints all over himself and his weapons to accommodate &quot;Fire Blasts&quot; from the [[Battle Master]]s assortment, which can be used to simulate blaster fire or explosions. <br /> <br /> :Ironhide suffers from a production flaw that causes the molded hinges on his legs to be too small to properly house the side panels from his vehicle mode, causing them to pop off at the slightest pressure. This can be resolved by removing the panels and using a small screwdriver to carefully widen the pegholes, which creates enough clearance to properly house the panels within the hinges.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Deseeus Army Drone#Toys|Deseeus Army Drone]], given a new head as [[Crosshairs (G1)#Generations|Crosshairs]], and retooled into [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ratchet]]. The mold was also extensively retooled into ''Earthrise'' Ironhide (below).<br /> <br /> ::*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xU9CKYarz4 Official conversion video at the TRANSFORMERS OFFICIAL YouTube channel]''<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===<br /> [[File:TF-Generations-WFC-E-Autobot-Alliance-2-Pack-Ironhide.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The '''better''' Classics Ironhide we truly want.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Alliance 2-Pack''' (Multi-pack, [[2020]])<br /> **''Hasbro ID number:'' '''WFC-E31'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''ER EX-18'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[February 20]], [[2021]]'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' Pistol, Roof/Shield<br /> {{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Released in the &quot;Autobot Alliance&quot; 2-Pack with [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Prowl]] in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' toyline, Ironhide is an extensive retooling of his ''Siege'' counterpart, transforming into a van similar to his original Nissan mode. He features a new chest/windshield, bumper, lower arms, and leg panels, as well as a roof piece that converts into a shield in robot mode. While similar to the Siege version's head, the toy's head is also new, remolded to have less detailing and to be more cartoon accurate. In lieu of the Doomblast Forge Launcher (which this figure can wield if you wish), the shield can also become a giant four-barreled cannon. For a little extra firepower, Ironhide also comes with a smaller pistol. Conveniently, this gun can be stored on the underside of the shield, tucking away neatly in van mode.<br /> <br /> :Although the figure features molded windows in van mode, said windows lack any paint, tampographs, or decals for color, which causes inconsistencies when combined with the translucent plastic from the roof to complete them. Similar to the ''Siege'' iteration, the figure's robot mode feet stick out conspicuously from the van mode's backside. Lastly, Ironhide's red color is visibly inconsistent throughout the combined figure, with some parts appearing more pink than red against the darker red pieces.<br /> <br /> :The Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; is sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]. ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]] includes ''Earthrise'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Cliffjumper]]'s bazooka redecoed in green, matching Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, effectively adding another weapon to this Ironhide toy's arsenal.<br /> <br /> :The map piece that comes with Ironhide and Prowl is the mysterious [[Nebulan|Nebulon]] Station.<br /> <br /> :This pack was exclusive to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] in the United States, Canada and Europe.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide was redecoed into [[Generations Selects]] [[DK-2 Guard]].<br /> {{WFCSiegeIronhideMold}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Studio Series''===<br /> [[File:TF-Studio-Series-86-Voyager-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The '''BEST''' Classics Ironhide we could possibly g– where's the stripe?]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''Movie'': '''''The Transformers: The Movie'''''<br /> **''Hasbro ID number'': '''86-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 laser pistols, &quot;Decepticon Shuttle Ambush&quot; backdrop<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (TakaraTomy)}}<br /> <br /> :Redone at the Voyager Class price point, ''[[Studio Series]]'' Ironhide is an attempt to improve the faults of the ''Earthrise'' version (while also being a general retail item instead of an [[Amazon]] exclusive). Though he is a similar size to that previous toy, the advanced transformation engineering means he doesn't have feet sticking out of the back of the vehicle mode, and requires no [[Partsformer|partsforming]].<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately, he lacks the signature yellow stripe on the sides of his vehicle mode. Unpainted translucent blue tabs also stick out the top of the vehicle mode roof, likely meant to secure a lightbar for a future Ratchet retool.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide comes with dual laser pistols, which can store on his back, on the back of his legs, on top of his van mode, or under it as exhaust pipes. <br /> <br /> :Optionally, Ironhide's Drill Gun seen in &quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]&quot; which was sold separately as part of the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Toys|Deluxe Centurion Drone Weaponizer Pack]]; as well as ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]] / War for Cybertron Trilogy'' &quot;Worlds Collide&quot; [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#WorldsCollide|Bumblebee]]'s green bazooka, which was reminiscent of Ironhide's bazooka in &quot;[[Transport to Oblivion (episode)|Transport to Oblivion]]&quot;, can both be used with this figure, even though these weapons cannot accommodate with Ironhide's vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :He also includes a display backdrop depicting the scene from the '86 movie where he made his last stand against invading Decepticons aboard the Autobot Shuttle.<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Ironhide decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9|Rubber-hide]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (Decoy multi-pack, 1985)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Decoy, 1987)<br /> **''Decoy number'': 7<br /> <br /> : The Ironhide figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Ironhide/ironhide.htm More information on Decoy Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Super Collection Figure''===<br /> [[File:SCF Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ironhide had torso reduction surgery for this role.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2001)<br /> **''Act'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Stand<br /> <br /> : A three-inch tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine of Ironhide was available in the third &quot;act&quot; of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. His pistol and nozzle-tipped-fingers left hand are modeled after his appearance in &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&quot;, though the pistol is painted black rather than light gray as in the episode. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full color figure and a colorless clear plastic version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.<br /> <br /> : In two out of every ten cases, the full-color version of Ironhide came packaged with the left leg of the wave's collectable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Fortress Maximus]] &quot;build-a-figure&quot;. This part itself could be in either full color or clear plastic, packed at an equal 1:1 ratio.<br /> <br /> : This figure was slightly [[retool]]ed to make ''SCF'' [[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Ratchet]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/SCFIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Cybertron/ClearIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on SCF Ironhide (Clear Version) on TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Heroes of Cybertron''===<br /> [[File:HOC Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2003)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide's ''Super Collection Figure'' PVC was released the following year by Hasbro in the third wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Like all the figures in the series, Ironhide was given a [[light-piping]] gimmick by being cast entirely in translucent blue plastic then painted everywhere except on his eyes and the back of his head. <br /> <br /> : Unlike the Japanese version, he was sold separate on a blister card, and came with a [[bio]] card packed in the bubble.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Autobot/HoCIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Hard Hero===<br /> [[File:HardHero G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Go, Simba! Join the circle of life!]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2002)<br /> <br /> : This cold-cast porcelain 6-inch tall bust was sculpted by Jason Ray, and is based very heavily upon Ironhide's cartoon appearance. A signed artist's proof version was available, limited to 100 pieces.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Attacktix''===<br /> [[File:Ironhide-atx.jpg|thumb|[[Signal Lancer]] would soon rethink teaming up with Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (Booster, &lt;s&gt;2007&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> <br /> : Ironhide was likely to have been one of several ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' Booster pieces. Though displayed as part of the ''Attacktix'' display at the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' &quot;Celebration IV&quot; convention, he —and all the other pieces revealed at the show— were ultimately never released.<br /> <br /> {{canceledattacktix}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Boss Coffee===<br /> [[File:BossCoffee ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2008)<br /> <br /> :A non-transforming PVC figure of Ironhide was released as part of a promotion by [[Boss Coffee]]. The small figure was randomly included with single cans of the company's &quot;Rainbow Mountain Blend&quot; coffee, contained in a plastic capsule affixed to the top of can which then became a display base for the figurine once removed. Ironhide features articulation at the shoulders and waist, and came with a small catalog leaflet that could be folded up and attached to the lid/base to form a diorama background for added display value.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br /> [[File:DiamondSelect G1Ironhide bust.jpg|thumb|Proof that EVERY Wave 1 Autobot had a shoulder cannon.]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (2009)<br /> <br /> :Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Ironhide was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. This detailed bust is based on Ironhide's (you guessed it) cartoon/comic model, but with much more detailing and with elements of his toy design. These include his vehicle sled's missile launcher mounted on his shoulder, his wielding of his sled's static laser gun and his original Diaclone &quot;face&quot; being present behind his windshield. In addition to the missile launcher being removable his open left hand can be replaced with a hand gripping his cartoon pistol for two handed &quot;chop busting.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Robot Heroes''===<br /> [[File:Robotheroesironhidekickback.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Stop copying me!&quot; &quot;Stop copying me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Ironhide &amp; Kickback''' (Two-pack, 2008)<br /> {{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro)}}<br /> <br /> :Part of the &quot;Generation 1 Series&quot; of ''Universe''-branded ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'', this adorably happy figurine of Ironhide is ready to pound his packmate [[Kickback (G1)#Robot Heroes|Kickback]] into metal filings. He features articulation in his neck and shoulders.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RHIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Ironhide at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Figure Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF-Transformers-Figure-Collection-Ironhide-Decoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|''Rubber-hide ver.2.0'']]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (01-2016)<br /> <br /> :Standing 42mm tall, ''Transformers Figure Collection'' Ironhide is a non-poseable soft-rubber figure based on a [[Decoy]] figure.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Bitfig===<br /> [[File:Bitfig-Ironhide.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Ironhide''' (06-2017)<br /> <br /> Part of the second wave of Transformers Bitfig capsule toys.<br /> Ironhide's design is inspired by his appearance in the G1 cartoon, and is articulated at the neck and shoulders.<br /> Bitfig toys were packaged in capsules color coded to the toy they contained.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> <br /> ===''Keshi Surprise''===<br /> *'''Autobots''' (2018)<br /> <br /> :The ''[[Keshi Surprise]]'' series by [[Super7]] consisted of 1.75&quot; soft rubber figures in a style deliberately resembling the 1980s [[Decoy]]s. These [[blind-packed]] figures were sold individually or in cases depicting only their faction. Ironhide was available in red, yellow, blue, and purple and included a foil trading sticker.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===<br /> [[File:W1SIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' (2018)<br /> **'''Wave 1S: Starter Set''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T02/T04'''<br /> **''Stars: ''6<br /> :'''Ironhide, Veteran Autobot''' is one of four double-sided character cards available in the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Starter Set.<br /> <br /> :The artwork on the card is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile card game.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W2Ironhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''UT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T28/T46'''<br /> **''Stars: ''7<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler was released as part of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]] Wave 2: Rise of the Combiners. Like all other members of [[combiner]] teams released in the set, Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler is a folding card, with the Bot and Alt modes being depicted when the card is folded in half, and a holofoil portion of the the combined mode depicted when unfolded. The reverse of Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler depicts the lower left portion of [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus']], of whom Ironhide forms the left leg. <br /> <br /> :The artwork for Alt Mode is reused from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game, while the Bot Mode artwork uses the [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Combiner Wars]] Ironhide figure's packaging art.<br /> <br /> :Ironhide, Steadfast Brawler can be used to form Optimus Maximus, Ultimate Defender with the use of the Action card [[Enigma of Combination|Sentinel Enigma]] while he and the other Wave 2 Sentinels are in Bot mode on the battlefield and/or KO area.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:W3CaptainIronhide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]<br /> *'''Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard''' (2019)<br /> **'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I''' <br /> **''Rarity: '''''RT'''<br /> **''Card Number: '''''T03/T48'''<br /> **''Stars: ''9<br /> :Captain Ironhide, Infantry-Bodyguard is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.<br /> <br /> :The card's artwork is based on the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' Ironhide toy, with the Bot Mode artwork being reused from the toy's packaging art, and original artwork for Alt Mode, with line-art by [[Dan Khanna]] and colors by [[Gunship Rev]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Imaginarium Art===<br /> [[File:ImaginariumMegatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Irondied]]<br /> *'''Megatron''' (2019)<br /> **''Accessories'': Energy flail<br /> <br /> :[[Imaginarium Art]]'s [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise|Megatron]] statue stands 25 inches tall atop a base of Ironhide's dead body. The eyes and fusion cannon can light up. Only 500 were produced. <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Eaglemoss===<br /> * '''Transformers Gen-1 Chess Set''' (&lt;s&gt;2021&lt;/s&gt;)<br /> :In the planned [[Chess#Eaglemoss|Transformers Chess Set]] by [[Eaglemoss]], a relatively large and very well detailed statue of Iron Hide {{sic}} was slated to be one of the Rook pieces on the Autobot side.<br /> <br /> :A Kickstarter campaign to raise the necessary funds for this project was launched, but failed to meet its goal by September 24, 2021 and the whole thing was canceled.<br /> {{canceledtoy}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Pop!''===<br /> '''Ironhide''' ([[Funko Pop!#Digital Pop! NFTs|Digital ''Pop!'']], 2022)<br /> *''Rarity:''<br /> **''Monochrome:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Static:'' '''Common'''<br /> **''Glowing:'' '''Uncommon'''<br /> **''Chrome:'' '''Rare'''<br /> **''Original'': '''Epic'''<br /> :{{W|Non-fungible token|NFT}}s depicting Ironhide in the [[Funko Pop!|Funko]] style.<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery heights=200&gt;<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_MONOCHROME.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_COMMON_IRONHIDE_STATIC.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_UNCOMMON_IRONHIDE_GLOW.gif<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_RARE_IRONHIDE_REDCHROME.gif|Chromehide<br /> File:TRANSFORMERS_EPIC_IRONHIDE_ORIGINAL.gif<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Jada Toys===<br /> [[File:JadaNanoMetalfigsG1-18pack.jpg|upright=1.44|thumb]]<br /> *'''Transformers Series 1 18-pack''' (4cm Die Cast Figure Multipack, 2022)<br /> :Released by [[Jada Toys]], ''Nano Metalfigs'' Ironhide is an incredibly small die-cast figurine molded doing an action pose. He has a little base attached to his feet for balancing reasons.<br /> <br /> :He comes in an impressive multipack with [[Jada Toys#Nano Metalfigs|seventeen other figurines]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Icon Heroes===<br /> *'''Grimlock X Ironhide Retro Pin Set''' (2022)<br /> : A hard enamel pin based on Ironhide's original G1 package art made by Icon Heroes. It comes carded with a [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Icon Heroes|Grimlock]] pin.<br /> <br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> <br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:Generation2LightSpeed.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|You have to be pretty desperate to copy Blowout's motto.]]<br /> *The black ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Ironhide was sold by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] in North America as the ''[[Diakron]]'' &quot;DK-2&quot; Car/Robot in 1983, seemingly just a few months before he would be rebranded as a Transformer.<br /> *An early version of [[Power Master]] Ironhide's artwork in blue and yellow was used on packaging mock-ups displayed around [[Hasbro]]'s headquarters bearing the names &quot;Light Speed&quot;, &quot;Belzone&quot;, and &quot;Pothole&quot;, though no release of these toys was ever intended.<br /> *A mock-up of a new [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] toy in the form of a ''Universe'' (2008) Ironhide redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1]]'' as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Camshaft claimed only 1.6% of the votes, leaving him in second-to-last place.&lt;ref&gt;[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *In the first year of ''[[Kre-O]]'', long before Devastator's set was released, an Ironhide Kreon was included in a turntable display of Kreons found in some retail outlets, often labeled as Sideswipe. He taunted you.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Attacktix]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Bitfig]]<br /> [[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Combiner Wars Maximals]]<br /> [[Category:Construct-Bots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:E-Hobby]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 2 Go-Bots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]<br /> [[Category:Unite Warriors Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Universe (2008)]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Earthrise Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Optimus_Prime_(Armada)/toys&diff=1650772 Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys 2022-11-13T04:50:41Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>== THS-01 ==<br /> <br /> Hi.<br /> <br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?<br /> <br /> (I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==<br /> <br /> Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as &quot;stiff&quot; as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's &quot;exhaust pipe&quot; things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Wing Convoy PVC ==<br /> I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==<br /> : I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: He was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hasbro stock photos are craptacular. I just grabbed that about 2 years ago and hoped it would work. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Armada Super-Con lacks Matrix? ==<br /> <br /> Thought i remembered it having one (sculpted, non-removable), but the article says not.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/70.17.201.185|70.17.201.185]] 01:37, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> : That's only in the larger, Super-Base version. The smaller, &quot;Deluxe&quot; Prime does not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:44, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Sound Convoy? ==<br /> <br /> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=C3599P0014&amp;mode=vintage [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fdS7lK_3KgUJ:www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage+http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk (and Google Cache, in case)] What is this thing? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 06:13, 17 April 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Siege==<br /> I've seen online that there's a Cybertron Optimus Prime toy coming out in the Siege toyline. Shouldn't that toy be added to Unicron Triology Optimus' toy page when we get more information?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 03:07, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> It's a leak, we don't add stuff until it's oficially confirmed. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 09:12, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I did say added when we get more information.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 09:44, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> We've got info now... why is it still listed as G1? The caption even says it's not Cybertron Optimus and it only has a one-sentence bio? Shouldn't the G1 page be lighter with a link to the Cybertron one? Since when does Generations automatically equal G1? [[User:Planned_Planethood]]<br /> :Siege has a unified play pattern, is otherwise composed of distinctly G1 characters, and is being used as the basis for several of the designs in the new IDW G1 relaunch. Also, the central Optimus figure is designed to look like G1 Optimus. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:46, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Shouldn't this situation be treated the same way as Thrilling 30 Armada Starscream? He's considered to be the Armada character and was repurposed as G1 by IDW. It looks like the same thing here, for me at least, specially if the new IDW continuity doesn't feature the toy's Super Mode and uses only the basic robot mode (and I would still think this way if it does end up using the Super Mode anyway). I understand Siege has a more unified G1-theme, but it's still Generations and can follow the same rule of &quot;exceptions&quot; for different continuity incarnations. I vote for Optimus (Armada) being the main article and (G1) being the denoted as repurposed.--[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:13, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Siege, unlike T30, has a unified story that places this Optimus in the same universe as all the very G1 guys. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 20:50, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, Siege purposefully has a unifying story theme to its design ethos. Thrilling 30 did not. They're different sublines with different rules. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Fire hazard? ==<br /> <br /> I discovered from watching reviewer baltmatrix's YouTube review of the first Armada Prime toy (the Super Base one) that it has the capacity to start fires, and actually set his bedroom on fire at one point. Should I add this arguably vital detail under that toy? {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> :Absolutely not. Baltmatrix all but made up that story, and it's a lie that's been reported as true for years. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:06, 9 February 2021 (EST)<br /> :OK, thank you. I did not know that. {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Sound gimmick ==<br /> <br /> Can somebody who owns the Super Base Armada Prime toy write down and/or record the sound it makes? I've read it seems very similar to &quot;energy more&quot;. {{Unsigned|Dingdongdude}}</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Optimus_Prime_(Armada)/toys&diff=1650770 Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys 2022-11-13T04:45:25Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Why wasn&#039;t the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? */</p> <hr /> <div>== THS-01 ==<br /> <br /> Hi.<br /> <br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?<br /> <br /> (I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==<br /> <br /> Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as &quot;stiff&quot; as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's &quot;exhaust pipe&quot; things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Wing Convoy PVC ==<br /> I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==<br /> : I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: He was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hasbro stock photos are craptacular. I just grabbed that about 2 years ago and hoped it would work. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Armada Super-Con lacks Matrix? ==<br /> <br /> Thought i remembered it having one (sculpted, non-removable), but the article says not.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/70.17.201.185|70.17.201.185]] 01:37, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> : That's only in the larger, Super-Base version. The smaller, &quot;Deluxe&quot; Prime does not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:44, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Sound Convoy? ==<br /> <br /> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=C3599P0014&amp;mode=vintage [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fdS7lK_3KgUJ:www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage+http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk (and Google Cache, in case)] What is this thing? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 06:13, 17 April 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Siege==<br /> I've seen online that there's a Cybertron Optimus Prime toy coming out in the Siege toyline. Shouldn't that toy be added to Unicron Triology Optimus' toy page when we get more information?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 03:07, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> It's a leak, we don't add stuff until it's oficially confirmed. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 09:12, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I did say added when we get more information.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 09:44, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> We've got info now... why is it still listed as G1? The caption even says it's not Cybertron Optimus and it only has a one-sentence bio? Shouldn't the G1 page be lighter with a link to the Cybertron one? Since when does Generations automatically equal G1? [[User:Planned_Planethood]]<br /> :Siege has a unified play pattern, is otherwise composed of distinctly G1 characters, and is being used as the basis for several of the designs in the new IDW G1 relaunch. Also, the central Optimus figure is designed to look like G1 Optimus. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:46, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Shouldn't this situation be treated the same way as Thrilling 30 Armada Starscream? He's considered to be the Armada character and was repurposed as G1 by IDW. It looks like the same thing here, for me at least, specially if the new IDW continuity doesn't feature the toy's Super Mode and uses only the basic robot mode (and I would still think this way if it does end up using the Super Mode anyway). I understand Siege has a more unified G1-theme, but it's still Generations and can follow the same rule of &quot;exceptions&quot; for different continuity incarnations. I vote for Optimus (Armada) being the main article and (G1) being the denoted as repurposed.--[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:13, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Siege, unlike T30, has a unified story that places this Optimus in the same universe as all the very G1 guys. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 20:50, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, Siege purposefully has a unifying story theme to its design ethos. Thrilling 30 did not. They're different sublines with different rules. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Fire hazard? ==<br /> <br /> I discovered from watching reviewer baltmatrix's YouTube review of the first Armada Prime toy (the Super Base one) that it has the capacity to start fires, and actually set his bedroom on fire at one point. Should I add this arguably vital detail under that toy? {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> :Absolutely not. Baltmatrix all but made up that story, and it's a lie that's been reported as true for years. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:06, 9 February 2021 (EST)<br /> :OK, thank you. I did not know that. {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Sound gimmick ==<br /> <br /> Can somebody who owns the Super Base Armada Prime toy write down and/or record the sound it makes? I've read it seems very similar to &quot;energy more&quot;. {{Unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Why wasn't the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> Considering that we had heard no further news about this prototype for years ever since the prototype was revealed in 2019, and if how grey prototypes revealed by other Japanese toy companies are anything to go by (where they reveal a grey prototype of a toy but never acknowledged its existence after the reveal, which hinted they had canceled it), why wasn't the prototype not listed as &quot;canceled&quot; since by this point, Hasbro or Takara would never ever do anything with the prototype? --[[User:YellowCorvette|YellowCorvette]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Optimus_Prime_(Armada)/toys&diff=1650769 Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys 2022-11-13T04:44:38Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Why wasn&#039;t the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? */</p> <hr /> <div>== THS-01 ==<br /> <br /> Hi.<br /> <br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?<br /> <br /> (I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==<br /> <br /> Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as &quot;stiff&quot; as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's &quot;exhaust pipe&quot; things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Wing Convoy PVC ==<br /> I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==<br /> : I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: He was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hasbro stock photos are craptacular. I just grabbed that about 2 years ago and hoped it would work. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Armada Super-Con lacks Matrix? ==<br /> <br /> Thought i remembered it having one (sculpted, non-removable), but the article says not.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/70.17.201.185|70.17.201.185]] 01:37, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> : That's only in the larger, Super-Base version. The smaller, &quot;Deluxe&quot; Prime does not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:44, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Sound Convoy? ==<br /> <br /> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=C3599P0014&amp;mode=vintage [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fdS7lK_3KgUJ:www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage+http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk (and Google Cache, in case)] What is this thing? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 06:13, 17 April 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Siege==<br /> I've seen online that there's a Cybertron Optimus Prime toy coming out in the Siege toyline. Shouldn't that toy be added to Unicron Triology Optimus' toy page when we get more information?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 03:07, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> It's a leak, we don't add stuff until it's oficially confirmed. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 09:12, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I did say added when we get more information.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 09:44, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> We've got info now... why is it still listed as G1? The caption even says it's not Cybertron Optimus and it only has a one-sentence bio? Shouldn't the G1 page be lighter with a link to the Cybertron one? Since when does Generations automatically equal G1? [[User:Planned_Planethood]]<br /> :Siege has a unified play pattern, is otherwise composed of distinctly G1 characters, and is being used as the basis for several of the designs in the new IDW G1 relaunch. Also, the central Optimus figure is designed to look like G1 Optimus. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:46, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Shouldn't this situation be treated the same way as Thrilling 30 Armada Starscream? He's considered to be the Armada character and was repurposed as G1 by IDW. It looks like the same thing here, for me at least, specially if the new IDW continuity doesn't feature the toy's Super Mode and uses only the basic robot mode (and I would still think this way if it does end up using the Super Mode anyway). I understand Siege has a more unified G1-theme, but it's still Generations and can follow the same rule of &quot;exceptions&quot; for different continuity incarnations. I vote for Optimus (Armada) being the main article and (G1) being the denoted as repurposed.--[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:13, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Siege, unlike T30, has a unified story that places this Optimus in the same universe as all the very G1 guys. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 20:50, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, Siege purposefully has a unifying story theme to its design ethos. Thrilling 30 did not. They're different sublines with different rules. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Fire hazard? ==<br /> <br /> I discovered from watching reviewer baltmatrix's YouTube review of the first Armada Prime toy (the Super Base one) that it has the capacity to start fires, and actually set his bedroom on fire at one point. Should I add this arguably vital detail under that toy? {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> :Absolutely not. Baltmatrix all but made up that story, and it's a lie that's been reported as true for years. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:06, 9 February 2021 (EST)<br /> :OK, thank you. I did not know that. {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Sound gimmick ==<br /> <br /> Can somebody who owns the Super Base Armada Prime toy write down and/or record the sound it makes? I've read it seems very similar to &quot;energy more&quot;. {{Unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Why wasn't the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> Considering that we had heard no further news about this prototype for years ever since the prototype was revealed in 2019, and if how grey prototypes revealed by other Japanese toy companies are anything to go by (where they reveal a grey prototype of a toy but never acknowledged its existence after the reveal, which means they had cancelled it), why wasn't the prototype nos listed as &quot;canceled&quot; since by this point, Hasbro or Takara would never ever do anything with the prototype? --[[User:YellowCorvette|YellowCorvette]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Optimus_Prime_(Armada)/toys&diff=1650767 Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys 2022-11-13T04:42:50Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Why wasn&#039;t the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== THS-01 ==<br /> <br /> Hi.<br /> <br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?<br /> <br /> (I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==<br /> <br /> Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as &quot;stiff&quot; as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's &quot;exhaust pipe&quot; things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Wing Convoy PVC ==<br /> I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==<br /> : I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :: He was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> :::Hasbro stock photos are craptacular. I just grabbed that about 2 years ago and hoped it would work. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:04, 31 March 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Armada Super-Con lacks Matrix? ==<br /> <br /> Thought i remembered it having one (sculpted, non-removable), but the article says not.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/70.17.201.185|70.17.201.185]] 01:37, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> : That's only in the larger, Super-Base version. The smaller, &quot;Deluxe&quot; Prime does not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:44, 2 December 2011 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Sound Convoy? ==<br /> <br /> http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=C3599P0014&amp;mode=vintage [http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fdS7lK_3KgUJ:www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage+http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx%3Fproduct%3DC3599P0014%26mode%3Dvintage&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk (and Google Cache, in case)] What is this thing? [[User:Item42|Item42]] 06:13, 17 April 2012 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Siege==<br /> I've seen online that there's a Cybertron Optimus Prime toy coming out in the Siege toyline. Shouldn't that toy be added to Unicron Triology Optimus' toy page when we get more information?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 03:07, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> It's a leak, we don't add stuff until it's oficially confirmed. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 09:12, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> Yeah, I did say added when we get more information.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 09:44, 8 February 2019 (EST)<br /> <br /> We've got info now... why is it still listed as G1? The caption even says it's not Cybertron Optimus and it only has a one-sentence bio? Shouldn't the G1 page be lighter with a link to the Cybertron one? Since when does Generations automatically equal G1? [[User:Planned_Planethood]]<br /> :Siege has a unified play pattern, is otherwise composed of distinctly G1 characters, and is being used as the basis for several of the designs in the new IDW G1 relaunch. Also, the central Optimus figure is designed to look like G1 Optimus. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:46, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Shouldn't this situation be treated the same way as Thrilling 30 Armada Starscream? He's considered to be the Armada character and was repurposed as G1 by IDW. It looks like the same thing here, for me at least, specially if the new IDW continuity doesn't feature the toy's Super Mode and uses only the basic robot mode (and I would still think this way if it does end up using the Super Mode anyway). I understand Siege has a more unified G1-theme, but it's still Generations and can follow the same rule of &quot;exceptions&quot; for different continuity incarnations. I vote for Optimus (Armada) being the main article and (G1) being the denoted as repurposed.--[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:13, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> ::Siege, unlike T30, has a unified story that places this Optimus in the same universe as all the very G1 guys. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 20:50, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> :::Yeah, Siege purposefully has a unifying story theme to its design ethos. Thrilling 30 did not. They're different sublines with different rules. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Fire hazard? ==<br /> <br /> I discovered from watching reviewer baltmatrix's YouTube review of the first Armada Prime toy (the Super Base one) that it has the capacity to start fires, and actually set his bedroom on fire at one point. Should I add this arguably vital detail under that toy? {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> :Absolutely not. Baltmatrix all but made up that story, and it's a lie that's been reported as true for years. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:06, 9 February 2021 (EST)<br /> :OK, thank you. I did not know that. {{unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Sound gimmick ==<br /> <br /> Can somebody who owns the Super Base Armada Prime toy write down and/or record the sound it makes? I've read it seems very similar to &quot;energy more&quot;. {{Unsigned|Dingdongdude}}<br /> <br /> == Why wasn't the Takara Armada Convoy prototype listed as &quot;canceled&quot;? ==<br /> <br /> Considering that we had heard no further news about this prototype for years ever since the prototype was revealed in 2019, and if how grey prototypes revealed by other Japanese toy companies are anything to go by (where they reveal a grey prototype of a toy but never acknowledged its existence after the reveal, which means they had cancelled it), why wasn't the prototype nos listed as &quot;canceled&quot; since by this point, Hasbro or Takara would never ever do anything with the prototype?</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Y%C3%85%C2%ABichi_Nakamura&diff=1650763 YÅ«ichi Nakamura 2022-11-13T04:13:30Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Yuichi Nakamura.jpeg|thumb|300px|''&quot;Arrivederci.&quot;'']]<br /> '''Yūichi Nakamura''' (中村 悠一 ''Nakamura Yūichi'', born [[February 20]], [[1980]]) is a prolific Japanese voice actor. Among his many roles are Beet J. Stag in ''Go-Busters'', Bruno Bucciarati in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo'', Gray Fullbuster in ''Fairy Tail'', Greed in ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', Graham Aker in ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00'', N in ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'', Golden Ryan in ''Tiger &amp; Bunny: The Rising'', Kevin Washington in ''Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance'', Dinosaur Ryusaki/Rex Raptor in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'', Mumen Rider in ''One Punch-Man'' and Kyohei Kadota in ''Durarara!!''. <br /> <br /> In the world of dubbing, he's the official voice of [[Captain America]] (Chris Evans) in all the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Cinematic Universe movies, Liam Hemsworth's dub voice across numerous films (such as ''The Hunger Games'' franchise), Prince Orm/Ocean Master in ''Aquaman'' and Garble the dragon in ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''<br /> <br /> ==Voice Roles==<br /> ===Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns===<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]]<br /> *[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure''===<br /> *[[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure -Prime of Micron-''===<br /> *Steeljaw<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Not only have Yuichi Nakamura and [[Troy Baker]] shared the role of Steeljaw, they also shared the role of Greed in ''FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1697606/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 IMDB entry]<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15878 Anime News Network entry]<br /> *{{w|Yuichi Nakamura (voice actor)|Wikipedia entry}}<br /> *[http://myanimelist.net/people/513/Yuuichi_Nakamura My Anime List entry]<br /> *[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/yuichi-nakamura/ Behind The Voice Actors entry]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Nakamura, Yuichi}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Y%C3%85%C2%ABichi_Nakamura&diff=1650762 YÅ«ichi Nakamura 2022-11-13T04:12:31Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Yuichi Nakamura.jpeg|thumb|250px|''&quot;Arrivederci.&quot;'']]<br /> '''Yūichi Nakamura''' (中村 悠一 ''Nakamura Yūichi'', born [[February 20]], [[1980]]) is a prolific Japanese voice actor. Among his many roles are Beet J. Stag in ''Go-Busters'', Bruno Bucciarati in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo'', Gray Fullbuster in ''Fairy Tail'', Greed in ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', Graham Aker in ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00'', N in ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'', Golden Ryan in ''Tiger &amp; Bunny: The Rising'', Kevin Washington in ''Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance'', Dinosaur Ryusaki/Rex Raptor in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'', Mumen Rider in ''One Punch-Man'' and Kyohei Kadota in ''Durarara!!''. <br /> <br /> In the world of dubbing, he's the official voice of [[Captain America]] (Chris Evans) in all the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Cinematic Universe movies, Liam Hemsworth's dub voice across numerous films (such as ''The Hunger Games'' franchise), Prince Orm/Ocean Master in ''Aquaman'' and Garble the dragon in ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''<br /> <br /> ==Voice Roles==<br /> ===Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns===<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]]<br /> *[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure''===<br /> *[[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure -Prime of Micron-''===<br /> *Steeljaw<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Not only have Yuichi Nakamura and [[Troy Baker]] shared the role of Steeljaw, they also shared the role of Greed in ''FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1697606/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 IMDB entry]<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15878 Anime News Network entry]<br /> *{{w|Yuichi Nakamura (voice actor)|Wikipedia entry}}<br /> *[http://myanimelist.net/people/513/Yuuichi_Nakamura My Anime List entry]<br /> *[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/yuichi-nakamura/ Behind The Voice Actors entry]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Nakamura, Yuichi}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Tetsuo_Kanao&diff=1650761 Tetsuo Kanao 2022-11-13T04:11:20Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:TetsuKanao.jpg‎|right|thumb|250px|Believes that Hiei is better than [[Sam Witwicky]].]]<br /> '''Tetsuo Kanao''' (金尾哲夫 ''Kanao Tetsuo'', born [[September 29]], [[1950]]) is a Japanese voice actor. He has been often casted in anime as military and villain types. Which can be heard as Bui from ''Yu Yu Hakusho'', Evolt from ''Kamen Rider Build'', Kuromado from ''Toriko'', Konrad Steinmetz from ''Chaika: The Coffin Princess'', Michael Gern from ''Turn A Gundam'', Patros the Arrancar from ''Bleach'', Sark from ''Kingdom Hearts II'', Vim Jeturk from ''Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury'', and Zangief from ''Street Fighter II: The Movie''.<br /> <br /> In his fair share of dubbing, Dr. Kirk Langstrom/Man-Bat from ''Batman: The Animated Series'', Gríma Wormtongue from ''The Lord of the Rings'', [[Orson Welles]] from ''Ed Wood'', Chancellor Valorum from ''Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace'', Rupert Giles from ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'', Alfred Pennyworth from ''Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice'' and among other roles that he dubbed.<br /> <br /> ==Roles==<br /> ===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon''===<br /> * [[Bruce Brazos]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=10080 ANN Profile]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Kanao, Tetsuo}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Y%C3%85%C2%ABichi_Nakamura&diff=1650760 YÅ«ichi Nakamura 2022-11-13T04:09:34Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:Yuichi Nakamura.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.4|''&quot;Arrivederci.&quot;'']]<br /> '''Yūichi Nakamura''' (中村 悠一 ''Nakamura Yūichi'', born [[February 20]], [[1980]]) is a prolific Japanese voice actor. Among his many roles are Beet J. Stag in ''Go-Busters'', Bruno Bucciarati in ''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo'', Gray Fullbuster in ''Fairy Tail'', Greed in ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', Graham Aker in ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00'', N in ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'', Golden Ryan in ''Tiger &amp; Bunny: The Rising'', Kevin Washington in ''Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance'', Dinosaur Ryusaki/Rex Raptor in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'', Mumen Rider in ''One Punch-Man'' and Kyohei Kadota in ''Durarara!!''. <br /> <br /> In the world of dubbing, he's the official voice of [[Captain America]] (Chris Evans) in all the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Cinematic Universe movies, Liam Hemsworth's dub voice across numerous films (such as ''The Hunger Games'' franchise), Prince Orm/Ocean Master in ''Aquaman'' and Garble the dragon in ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''<br /> <br /> ==Voice Roles==<br /> ===Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns===<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]]<br /> *[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure''===<br /> *[[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure -Prime of Micron-''===<br /> *Steeljaw<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Not only have Yuichi Nakamura and [[Troy Baker]] shared the role of Steeljaw, they also shared the role of Greed in ''FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1697606/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 IMDB entry]<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15878 Anime News Network entry]<br /> *{{w|Yuichi Nakamura (voice actor)|Wikipedia entry}}<br /> *[http://myanimelist.net/people/513/Yuuichi_Nakamura My Anime List entry]<br /> *[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/yuichi-nakamura/ Behind The Voice Actors entry]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Nakamura, Yuichi}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:Yuichi_Nakamura.jpeg&diff=1650759 File:Yuichi Nakamura.jpeg 2022-11-13T04:05:24Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div></div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Y%C3%85%C2%ABichi_Nakamura&diff=1650758 YÅ«ichi Nakamura 2022-11-13T04:04:26Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Yūichi Nakamura''' (中村 悠一 ''Nakamura Yūichi'', born [[February 20]], [[1980]]) is a prolific Japanese voice actor. Among his many roles are Beet J. Stag in ''Go-Busters'', Bruno Bucciarati in''JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo'', Gray Fullbuster in ''Fairy Tail'', Greed in ''Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood'', Graham Aker in ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00'', N in ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'', Golden Ryan in ''Tiger &amp; Bunny: The Rising'', Kevin Washington in ''Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance'', Dinosaur Ryusaki/Rex Raptor in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters'', Mumen Rider in ''One Punch-Man'' and Kyohei Kadota in ''Durarara!!''. <br /> <br /> In the world of dubbing, he's the official voice of [[Captain America]] (Chris Evans) in all the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Cinematic Universe movies, Liam Hemsworth's dub voice across numerous films (such as ''The Hunger Games'' franchise), Prince Orm/Ocean Master in ''Aquaman'' and Garble the dragon in ''[[My Little Pony|My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]''<br /> <br /> ==Voice Roles==<br /> ===Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns===<br /> *[[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]]<br /> *[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure''===<br /> *[[Steeljaw (RID)|Steeljaw]]<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Adventure -Prime of Micron-''===<br /> *Steeljaw<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> *Not only have Yuichi Nakamura and [[Troy Baker]] shared the role of Steeljaw, they also shared the role of Greed in ''FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood''.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1697606/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 IMDB entry]<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=15878 Anime News Network entry]<br /> *{{w|Yuichi Nakamura (voice actor)|Wikipedia entry}}<br /> *[http://myanimelist.net/people/513/Yuuichi_Nakamura My Anime List entry]<br /> *[http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/yuichi-nakamura/ Behind The Voice Actors entry]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Nakamura, Yuichi}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Tomokazu_Seki&diff=1650757 Tomokazu Seki 2022-11-13T04:00:16Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:TomokazuSeki.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|&quot;This hand of mine glows with an awesome POWER!&quot;]]<br /> '''Tomokazu Seki''' (関 智一 ''Seki Tomokazu'' born [[September 8]], [[1972]]) is a Japanese voice actor and singer. He was previously employed by the Tokyo Actor's Consumer's Cooperative Society, but is nowadays the head of the company Atomic Monkey. <br /> <br /> Seki has played a positively massive amount of voice roles, a few of which include Domon Kasshu in ''Mobile Fighter G Gundam'', Yzak Joule in ''Mobile Suit Gundam SEED'' and ''Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'', Van Fanel in ''The Vision of Escaflowne'', Haru Glory in ''Rave Master'', Giga in ''BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo'', Tracey Sketchit in ''Pokémon'', the titular hero of ''Viewtiful Joe'', Leonardo in the 2012 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' cartoon, Sousuke Sagara in ''Full Metal Panic!'', Kanji Tatsumi in ''Persona 4'', Sanemi Shinazugawa in ''Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba'', Shinya Kogami in ''Psycho-Pass'', Kyo Sohma in the original ''Fruits Basket'' anime, Panda in ''Jujutsu Kaisen'', Enrico Pucci in ''Jojo's Bizarre Adventures'', Gilgamesh in the ''Fate'' franchise and as both Oscar Isaac's Moon Knight and [[Spider-Man]] 2099 in Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse.<br /> <br /> ==Roles==<br /> ===''Revenge of the Fallen''===<br /> *[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.atomicmonkey.jp/index.html Atomic Monkey]<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0782840/ Tomokazu Seki] at the Internet Movie Database<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=529 Tomokazu Seki] at Anime News Network<br /> *[http://sekitomokazu.com/ SekiTomokazu.com], unofficial fansite<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Seki, Tomokazu}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Tomokazu_Seki&diff=1650756 Tomokazu Seki 2022-11-13T03:59:55Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:TomokazuSeki.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|&quot;This hand of mine glows with an awesome POWER!&quot;]]<br /> '''Tomokazu Seki''' (関 智一 ''Seki Tomokazu'' born [[September 8]], [[1972]]) is a Japanese voice actor and singer. He was previously employed by the Tokyo Actor's Consumer's Cooperative Society, but is nowadays the head of the company Atomic Monkey. <br /> <br /> Seki has played a positively massive amount of voice roles, a few of which include Domon Kasshu in ''Mobile Fighter G Gundam'', Yzak Joule in &quot;Mobile Suit Gundam SEED' and &quot;Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny'', Van Fanel in ''The Vision of Escaflowne'', Haru Glory in ''Rave Master'', Giga in ''BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo'', Tracey Sketchit in ''Pokémon'', the titular hero of ''Viewtiful Joe'', Leonardo in the 2012 ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' cartoon, Sousuke Sagara in ''Full Metal Panic!'', Kanji Tatsumi in ''Persona 4'', Sanemi Shinazugawa in ''Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba'', Shinya Kogami in ''Psycho-Pass'', Kyo Sohma in the original ''Fruits Basket'' anime, Panda in ''Jujutsu Kaisen'', Enrico Pucci in ''Jojo's Bizarre Adventures'', Gilgamesh in the ''Fate'' franchise and as both Oscar Isaac's Moon Knight and [[Spider-Man]] 2099 in Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse.<br /> <br /> ==Roles==<br /> ===''Revenge of the Fallen''===<br /> *[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.atomicmonkey.jp/index.html Atomic Monkey]<br /> *[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0782840/ Tomokazu Seki] at the Internet Movie Database<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=529 Tomokazu Seki] at Anime News Network<br /> *[http://sekitomokazu.com/ SekiTomokazu.com], unofficial fansite<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Seki, Tomokazu}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Tetsuo_Kanao&diff=1650755 Tetsuo Kanao 2022-11-13T03:55:55Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[File:TetsuKanao.jpg‎|right|thumb|250px|Believes that Hiei is better than [[Sam Witwicky]].]]<br /> '''Tetsuo Kanao''' (金尾哲夫 ''Kanao Tetsuo'', born [[September 29]], [[1950]]) is a Japanese voice actor. He has been often casted in anime as military and villain types. Which can be heard as Bui from ''Yu Yu Hakusho'', Kuromado from ''Toriko'', Konrad Steinmetz from ''Chaika: The Coffin Princess'', Michael Gern from ''Turn A Gundam'', Patros the Arrancar from ''Bleach'', Sark from ''Kingdom Hearts II'', Zangief from ''Street Fighter II: The Movie'', Evolt from ''Kamen Rider Build'', and Vim Jeturk from ''Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch From Mercury''. <br /> <br /> In his fair share of dubbing, Dr. Kirk Langstrom/Man-Bat from ''Batman: The Animated Series'', Gríma Wormtongue from ''The Lord of the Rings'', [[Orson Welles]] from ''Ed Wood'', Chancellor Valorum from ''Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace'', Rupert Giles from ''Buffy the Vampire Slayer'', Alfred Pennyworth from ''Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice'' and among other roles that he dubbed.<br /> <br /> ==Roles==<br /> ===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon''===<br /> * [[Bruce Brazos]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=10080 ANN Profile]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Kanao, Tetsuo}}<br /> [[Category:Japanese voice actors]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:Actas_New_Logo_2019.jpg&diff=1650754 File:Actas New Logo 2019.jpg 2022-11-13T03:41:59Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>Studio Actas's most recent company logo, which has been in use since 2019.</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Actas_Inc.&diff=1650753 Actas Inc. 2022-11-13T03:41:23Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[image:Actas New Logo 2019.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|]]<br /> Established in 1999 from former [[Ashi Productions]] animators, '''Actas Inc.''' (株式会社アクタス ''Kabushiki-gaisha Actus'') is a Japanese studio that produced the animation for ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]'', ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Robot Masters]]'', the hand-drawn animation for ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]'' and in-between animation for ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''. They have done such shows as ''éX-Driver'', ''Shin Megami Tensei Devil Children'' (with [[TMS Entertainment]]), ''Mermaid My Melody'', ''D.C. ~Da Capo~'', ''Girls und Panzer'', ''Princess Principal'', ''Long Riders'', and others.<br /> <br /> They did not animate the Japanese [[title sequence]] for ''Transformers: Armada'', however, which was done by [[Raretrick]].<br /> <br /> In 2017, Actas Inc. was acquired by Bandai Visual, which is currently a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Filmworks}} (Formerly known as ''Sunrise. Inc''), which in turn is also a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Holdings}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.actas-inc.co.jp/ Official website of Actas Inc. (in Japanese)]<br /> *{{w|アクタス|Japanese Wiki article}} (Japanese)<br /> <br /> {{businessstub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animation companies]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Actas_Inc.&diff=1650752 Actas Inc. 2022-11-13T03:40:16Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[image:Actas New Logo 2019.jpg|right]]<br /> Established in 1999 from former [[Ashi Productions]] animators, '''Actas Inc.''' (株式会社アクタス ''Kabushiki-gaisha Actus'') is a Japanese studio that produced the animation for ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]'', ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Robot Masters]]'', the hand-drawn animation for ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]'' and in-between animation for ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''. They have done such shows as ''éX-Driver'', ''Shin Megami Tensei Devil Children'' (with [[TMS Entertainment]]), ''Mermaid My Melody'', ''D.C. ~Da Capo~'', ''Girls und Panzer'', ''Princess Principal'', ''Long Riders'', and others.<br /> <br /> They did not animate the Japanese [[title sequence]] for ''Transformers: Armada'', however, which was done by [[Raretrick]].<br /> <br /> In 2017, Actas Inc. was acquired by Bandai Visual, which is currently a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Filmworks}} (Formerly known as ''Sunrise. Inc''), which in turn is also a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Holdings}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.actas-inc.co.jp/ Official website of Actas Inc. (in Japanese)]<br /> *{{w|アクタス|Japanese Wiki article}} (Japanese)<br /> <br /> {{businessstub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animation companies]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:Actas_New_Logo_2019.jpg&diff=1650751 File:Actas New Logo 2019.jpg 2022-11-13T03:37:49Z <p>YellowCorvette: Studio Actas&#039;s most recent company log, which has been in use since 2019.</p> <hr /> <div>Studio Actas's most recent company log, which has been in use since 2019.</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Actas_Inc.&diff=1650750 Actas Inc. 2022-11-13T03:26:20Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:ActasInc logo.jpg|right]]<br /> Established in 1999 from former [[Ashi Productions]] animators, '''Actas Inc.''' (株式会社アクタス ''Kabushiki-gaisha Actus'') is a Japanese studio that produced the animation for ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]'', ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Robot Masters]]'', the hand-drawn animation for ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]'' and in-between animation for ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''. They have done such shows as ''éX-Driver'', ''Shin Megami Tensei Devil Children'' (with [[TMS Entertainment]]), ''Mermaid My Melody'', ''D.C. ~Da Capo~'', ''Girls und Panzer'', ''Princess Principal'', ''Long Riders'', and others.<br /> <br /> They did not animate the Japanese [[title sequence]] for ''Transformers: Armada'', however, which was done by [[Raretrick]].<br /> <br /> In 2017, Actas Inc. was acquired by Bandai Visual, which is currently a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Filmworks}} (Formerly known as ''Sunrise. Inc''), which in turn is also a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Holdings}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.actas-inc.co.jp/ Official website of Actas Inc. (in Japanese)]<br /> *{{w|アクタス|Japanese Wiki article}} (Japanese)<br /> <br /> {{businessstub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animation companies]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Actas_Inc.&diff=1650749 Actas Inc. 2022-11-13T03:25:48Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:ActasInc logo.jpg|right]]<br /> Established in 1999 from former [[Ashi Productions]] animators, '''Actas Inc.''' (株式会社アクタス ''Kabushiki-gaisha Actus'') is a Japanese studio that produced the animation for ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]'', ''[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|Transformers: Robot Masters]]'', the hand-drawn animation for ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]'' and inbetween animation for ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''. They have done such shows as ''éX-Driver'', ''Shin Megami Tensei Devil Children'' (with [[TMS Entertainment]]), ''Mermaid My Melody'', ''D.C. ~Da Capo~'', ''Girls und Panzer'', ''Princess Principal'', ''Long Riders'', and others.<br /> <br /> They did not animate the Japanese [[title sequence]] for ''Transformers: Armada'', however, which was done by [[Raretrick]].<br /> <br /> In 2017, '''Actas Inc.''' was acquired by Bandai Visual, which is currently a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Filmworks}} (Formerly known as ''Sunrise. Inc''), which in turns is also a subsidiary of {{w|Bandai Namco Holdings}}.<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.actas-inc.co.jp/ Official website of Actas Inc. (in Japanese)]<br /> *{{w|アクタス|Japanese Wiki article}} (Japanese)<br /> <br /> {{businessstub}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animation companies]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=June_28&diff=1615590 June 28 2022-06-10T02:17:27Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{cal-date|6|28}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> * '''[[1971]] —''' [[Takeshi Watanabe]] (voice of [[BB|BB/Max-B]] and [[Bigmos]]) is born.<br /> * '''1971 —''' [[Akiko Kimura]] (Japanese voice of [[Koji Onishi]]) is born.<br /> * '''[[1975]] —''' [[Dreamwave Productions]] artist and president [[Pat Lee]] is born to rip off his employees.<br /> * '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode &quot;[[A Strange Friendship: Cancer and Minerva]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''1988 —''' Voice actress [[Yui Kondō]] is born. <br /> * '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode &quot;[[Gigatron's Ambitions Revealed!]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''[[2006]] —''' [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War|''The Art of War'']] [[The Art of War issue 4|#4]] is released by [[Devil's Due Press]].<br /> * '''[[2007]] —''' The [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live-action film]] is screened for advance-registration attendees at [[BotCon 2007]], one week before its nationwide release.<br /> * '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' episodes &quot;[[A Bridge Too Close, Part I]]&quot; and [[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]&quot; premiere in Canada.<br /> * '''[[2009]] —''' TFWIKI.NET hits ''[[Transformers Wiki:Milestones|9000 articles]]'' with the creation of [[Michael York]]'s page!<br /> * '''[[2011]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' is released to US 3D and IMAX locations at 9PM local time.<br /> * '''[[2013]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode &quot;[[Evolution]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''[[2014]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode &quot;[[Changes]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''2014 —''' [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores in the US hold a ''Transformers [[Kre-O]]'' building event from 12 noon to 2pm, giving away the &quot;[[Dinobot Ride]]&quot; mini-kit free... coinciding with the final day of a buy-one-get-one-half-off deal on all ''Transformers'' product, plus other coupons and offers.<br /> * '''[[2015]] —''' [[Hidehito Ueda]], the director of ''[[Transformers: Armada|Micron Legend]]'' passes away at the age of 61 due to cancer.<br /> * '''[[2016]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Prelude to Combiner Wars]]'' video &quot;[[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]&quot; is released.<br /> * '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Lost Light|Lost Light]]'' [[After Megatron (A Dissolution Epilogue)|#7]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]]. <br /> * '''2017 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 1: Power Play]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].<br /> * '''2017 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Dirge (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP 11-ND Dirge]].<br /> * '''[[2019]] — '''What would have been the original release date for [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts|Transformers 7]]'''.<br /> * '''[[2021]] — '''[[Ron Perlman]] is announced to be reprising his role as Optimus Primal from ''[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|Power of the Primes]]'' in [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]. [[Darnell Metayer]] and [[Josh Peters]] are also confirmed as writers, inspired by [[Joby Harold]]'s earlier draft.'''</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=June_28&diff=1615587 June 28 2022-06-10T02:13:26Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{cal-date|6|28}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> * '''[[1971]] —''' [[Takeshi Watanabe]] (voice of [[BB|BB/Max-B]] and [[Bigmos]]) is born.<br /> * '''1971 —''' [[Akiko Kimura]] (Japanese voice of [[Koji Onishi]]) is born.<br /> * '''[[1975]] —''' [[Dreamwave Productions]] artist and president [[Pat Lee]] is born to rip off his employees.<br /> * '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode &quot;[[A Strange Friendship: Cancer and Minerva]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''1988 —''' Voice actress [[Yui Kondō]] is born. <br /> * '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode &quot;[[Gigatron's Ambitions Revealed!]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''[[2006]] —''' [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War|''The Art of War'']] [[The Art of War issue 4|#4]] is released by [[Devil's Due Press]].<br /> * '''[[2007]] —''' The [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live-action film]] is screened for advance-registration attendees at [[BotCon 2007]], one week before its nationwide release.<br /> * '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' episodes &quot;[[A Bridge Too Close, Part I]]&quot; and [[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]&quot; premiere in Canada.<br /> * '''[[2009]] —''' TFWIKI.NET hits ''[[Transformers Wiki:Milestones|9000 articles]]'' with the creation of [[Michael York]]'s page!<br /> * '''[[2011]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' is released to US 3D and IMAX locations at 9PM local time.<br /> * '''[[2013]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode &quot;[[Evolution]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''[[2014]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode &quot;[[Changes]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''2014 —''' [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores in the US hold a ''Transformers [[Kre-O]]'' building event from 12 noon to 2pm, giving away the &quot;[[Dinobot Ride]]&quot; mini-kit free... coinciding with the final day of a buy-one-get-one-half-off deal on all ''Transformers'' product, plus other coupons and offers.<br /> * '''[[2015]] _''' [[Hidehito Ueda]], the director of ''[[Transformers: Armada|Micron Legend]]'' passes away at the age of 61 due to cancer.<br /> * '''[[2016]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Prelude to Combiner Wars]]'' video &quot;[[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]&quot; is released.<br /> * '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Lost Light|Lost Light]]'' [[After Megatron (A Dissolution Epilogue)|#7]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]]. <br /> * '''2017 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 1: Power Play]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].<br /> * '''2017 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Dirge (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP 11-ND Dirge]].<br /> * '''[[2019]] — '''What would have been the original release date for [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts|Transformers 7]]'''.<br /> * '''[[2021]] — '''[[Ron Perlman]] is announced to be reprising his role as Optimus Primal from ''[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|Power of the Primes]]'' in [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]. [[Darnell Metayer]] and [[Josh Peters]] are also confirmed as writers, inspired by [[Joby Harold]]'s earlier draft.'''</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=June_28&diff=1615586 June 28 2022-06-10T02:13:10Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;noinclude&gt;{{cal-date|6|28}}&lt;/noinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> * '''[[1971]] —''' [[Takeshi Watanabe]] (voice of [[BB|BB/Max-B]] and [[Bigmos]]) is born.<br /> * '''1971 —''' [[Akiko Kimura]] (Japanese voice of [[Koji Onishi]]) is born.<br /> * '''[[1975]] —''' [[Dreamwave Productions]] artist and president [[Pat Lee]] is born to rip off his employees.<br /> * '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode &quot;[[A Strange Friendship: Cancer and Minerva]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''1988 —''' Voice actress [[Yui Kondō]] is born. <br /> * '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode &quot;[[Gigatron's Ambitions Revealed!]]&quot; premieres in Japan.<br /> * '''[[2006]] —''' [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War|''The Art of War'']] [[The Art of War issue 4|#4]] is released by [[Devil's Due Press]].<br /> * '''[[2007]] —''' The [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live-action film]] is screened for advance-registration attendees at [[BotCon 2007]], one week before its nationwide release.<br /> * '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' episodes &quot;[[A Bridge Too Close, Part I]]&quot; and [[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]&quot; premiere in Canada.<br /> * '''[[2009]] —''' TFWIKI.NET hits ''[[Transformers Wiki:Milestones|9000 articles]]'' with the creation of [[Michael York]]'s page!<br /> * '''[[2011]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]'' is released to US 3D and IMAX locations at 9PM local time.<br /> * '''[[2013]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode &quot;[[Evolution]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''[[2014]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode &quot;[[Changes]]&quot; premieres on the [[Hub Network]].<br /> * '''2014 —''' [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores in the US hold a ''Transformers [[Kre-O]]'' building event from 12 noon to 2pm, giving away the &quot;[[Dinobot Ride]]&quot; mini-kit free... coinciding with the final day of a buy-one-get-one-half-off deal on all ''Transformers'' product, plus other coupons and offers.<br /> * '''[[2015]] _''' [[HidehitoUeda]], the director of ''[[Transformers: Armada|Micron Legend]]'' passes away at the age of 61 due to cancer.<br /> * '''[[2016]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Combiner Wars (cartoon)|Prelude to Combiner Wars]]'' video &quot;[[Prelude to Transformers: Combiner Wars - Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]&quot; is released.<br /> * '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Lost Light|Lost Light]]'' [[After Megatron (A Dissolution Epilogue)|#7]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]]. <br /> * '''2017 —''' ''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 1: Power Play]]'' is released by [[Hachette|Hachette Partworks]].<br /> * '''2017 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Dirge (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP 11-ND Dirge]].<br /> * '''[[2019]] — '''What would have been the original release date for [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts|Transformers 7]]'''.<br /> * '''[[2021]] — '''[[Ron Perlman]] is announced to be reprising his role as Optimus Primal from ''[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|Power of the Primes]]'' in [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]. [[Darnell Metayer]] and [[Josh Peters]] are also confirmed as writers, inspired by [[Joby Harold]]'s earlier draft.'''</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Energon_weapon&diff=1615582 Energon weapon 2022-06-10T02:03:20Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Gallery */</p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig2|the weapons created by the Omnicons and Terrorcons in ''Energon''|other Energon weapons|Energon weapon (disambiguation)}}<br /> [[File:Energon-Ironhides-1st-Energon-Weapon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|Let me axe you this.]]<br /> Though nominally a fuel source, if not the very lifeblood of the Cybertonian race, [[energon]] can also be fashioned by bots skilled in its use into extremely powerful '''energon weapons'''. Though potentially volatile, these weapons can be extremely devastating in battle.<br /> <br /> Most famously, the [[Omnicon]]s and [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] are capable of processing raw energon ore and fashioning it into weapons other bots can safely use, stored in and powered by small [[energon star]]s. Once the user uses up the star's energon, the weapon fades.<br /> <br /> {{TOCclear}}<br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Energon'' cartoon===<br /> [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] and [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]] supplied [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] with energon weapons to help them defend against a Terrorcon attack on [[Desert City]]. Ironhide complained that it wasn't a cannon but Optimus was pleased with the extra weapon. Ironhide used his once before he ran out of energon and it disappeared. Later, he used another energon star to summon another weapon and used it to destroy several [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb drones]]. {{storylink|Scorpinok (episode)|Scorpinok}}<br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Energon'' / ''Super Link''===<br /> [[File:EnergonWeapons.jpg|upright=1.7|thumb|What, no energon Frankenstein rakes?]]<br /> Each Omnicon and Terrorcon mold came with a unique weapon, made up from multiple parts to serve multiple purposes. [[Autobot]]s have red-hued Energon weapons, while [[Decepticon]]s have green/yellow ones.<br /> <br /> In Japan, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] took the molds for these weapons and produced numerous special [[redeco]]es for promotional purposes, often available for free with the purchase of larger toys. They also packaged new-color versions with the &quot;powered up&quot; redecoes of different characters in the normal retail line. [[Hasbro]] would later create some exclusive energon weapons of their own, but in a much more limited capacity.<br /> <br /> In addition, other toys included their own energon-based weapons... and a few even transformed into one!<br /> <br /> {{note|Most exclusive Omnicon/Terrorcon energon weapons did not come with [[Energon star|energon chip]]s. Any that did are specifically shown below. The weapons from the [[Battle Ravage#Toys|Battle Ravage]] and [[Arcee (Energon)#Toys|Arcee]] molds were not made into special redecos, as not only did they require spring-loaded assembly, but their missiles and triggers were part of a different mold-sprue.&lt;br&gt;Also, many larger toys came with clear-plastic weapons, but these have not been called out as energon weapons on packaging or in-fiction, so they are not included here.}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Gallery====<br /> :'''Omnicon / Terrorcon energon weapons'''<br /> {{note|These weapon names all come from the Takara ''Super Link'' releases. The Hasbro versions did not give them any special Proper Noun names, with the exception of the OTFCC exclusives.}}<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-Strongarm.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Strongarm (Energon)#Toys|Strongarm]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Blastarm<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-StrongarmEnergon.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Strongarm (Energon)#Energon|Energon Strongam]]<br /> File:Eironhide toy.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Ironhide (Energon)#Energon|Roadbuster Wild]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonAxe-ClearGreen F2F.jpg|'''Clear Green Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;''[[TV Magazine]]'' &quot;Transformers Fan Club&quot;, with &quot;Clear Deep Blue Energy Spear&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergonAxe-AquaMarine F2F.jpg|'''Aqua Marine Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] Japan,&lt;br&gt;[[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003 &amp; [[January 1|Jan 1]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ 2000¥ of ''Super Link'' toys<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-BlackHole.jpg|'''Black Hole Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Ito Yokado, [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-NaturalGreen.jpg|'''Natural Green Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Hello Mac, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ ''Super Link'' purchase&lt;br&gt;Joshin Kids Land, [[March 27|Mar 27]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ ''Super Link'' purchase<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-VioletCluster.jpg|'''Violet Cluster Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[JUSCO]], [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus Convoy]] or [[Prowl (Energon)#Toys|Red Alert]]&lt;br&gt;JUSCO, [[March 25|Mar 25]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#EnDx|SL Grand Convoy]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Skyblast.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Skyblast (Energon)#Toys|Skyblast]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Airglide.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Skyblast (Energon)#Toys|Airglide]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-SkyfireSonic.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Jetfire (Armada)#Sonic|Skyfire Sonic]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-ClearDeepBlue F2F.jpg|'''Clear Deep Blue Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;''[[TV Magazine]]'' &quot;Transformers Fan Club&quot;, with &quot;Clear Green Energy Axe&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-CoronaFlame F2F.jpg|'''Corona Flame Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[JUSCO]], [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]], [[Ironhide (Energon)#Toys|Roadbuster]], or [[Scorponok (Energon)#Toys|MegaZarak]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-RoyalClear F2F.jpg|'''Royal Clear Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;Hello Mac, [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Scorponok (Energon)#Toys|MegaZarak]]&lt;br&gt;Multiple chains [[January 1|Jan 1]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ Grand Convoy Super Mode<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-LightningYellow.jpg|'''Lightning Yellow Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] Japan, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus Convoy]],&lt;br&gt;run of 4000 pieces<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-RodeoMagenta F2F.jpg|'''Rodeo Magenta Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;Ito Yokado, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus]] or [[Prowl (Energon)#Toys|Red Alert]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Alpha.jpg|'''Alpha Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[OTFCC 2004]],&lt;br&gt;gift for completing survey,&lt;br&gt;with Omega Spear<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Omega.jpg|'''Omega Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[OTFCC 2004]],&lt;br&gt;gift for completing survey,&lt;br&gt;with Alpha Spear<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-SignalFlare.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Signal Flare (Energon)#Toys|Signal Flare]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-Offshoot.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Offshoot (Energon)#Toys|Offshoot]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Signal Flare<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-HotShot.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#EnDxEn|Hot Shot Fire]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-DaylightAttack.jpg|'''Daylight Attack Edition Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Mulitple stores, [[July 7]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Wing Saber (Energon)#Toys|Wing Saber]]&lt;br&gt;(probably, see Notes)<br /> File:En-toy EnergyArrow-Arcee.jpg|'''Energy Arrow'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Arcee (Energon)#Toys|Arcee]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Ariel<br /> File:En-toy EnergyArrow-ArielParadron.jpg|'''Energy Arrow'''&lt;br&gt;[[Arcee (Energon)#Paradron|Ariel Paradron Type]], &quot;[[Toy's Dream Project]]&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRifle-BattleRavage.jpg|'''Energy Rifle'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Battle Ravage#Toys|Battle Ravage]],&lt;br&gt;Hasbro Command Ravage,&lt;br&gt;Takara [[Command Ravage#Toys|Command Jaguar Limited Desert Type]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRifle-CommandJaguar.jpg|'''Energy Rifle'''&lt;br&gt;[[Battle Ravage#Toys|Command Jaguar]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombV1.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Divebomb (Energon)#Toys|Divebomb]] version 1<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombV2.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro Divebomb version 2,&lt;br&gt;Takara Shadowhawk<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombCosmo.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;[[Blackout (Terrorcon)#Toys|Shadowhawk Limited Cosmo Type]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonRaiden-Overdrive F2F.jpg|'''Overdrive Edition Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Gamers, [[May 27]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ 2000¥ of ''Super Link'' toys<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-Cruellock.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Cruellock#Toys|Cruellock]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Dinobot<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-DoomLock.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Doom-Lock (Energon)#Toys|Doom-Lock]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-Magma.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Dinobot Magma Type|Dinobot Limited Magma Type]]<br /> File:Energontoy galvatron g.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Galvatron General]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonBlade-PhantomNight F2F.jpg|'''Phantom Night Edition Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;Mulitple stores, [[July 7]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Wing Saber (Energon)#Toys|Wing Saber]]&lt;br&gt;(probably, see Notes)<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Insecticon (Energon)#Toys|Insecticon]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado-Takara.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;Takara [[Insecticon (Energon)#Toys|Chromhorn]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado-Forest.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;[[Chromhorn Forest Type|Chromhorn Limited Forest Type]]<br /> File:Superlink Nightscream Reverse Toy.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;[[Starscream (Armada)/toys#EnergonEnergon|Nightscream Rebirth]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> :'''Combiner energon weapons'''<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:EnergonTreadshot toy.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Treadshot (Energon)#Toys|Treadshot]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SC-26-Air-Rider.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Treadshot (Energon)#Toys|Air Rider]])<br /> File:EnergonWindrazor toy.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Windrazor (Energon)#Toys|Windrazor]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SC-26-Firebolt.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Windrazor (Energon)#Toys|Firebolt]])<br /> File:EnergonSkyShadow toy.jpg|'''Spiritual Wave'''&lt;br&gt;([[Sky Shadow (Energon)#Toys|Sky Shadow]] &amp; [[Terradive (Energon)#Toys|Terradive]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Spiritual Wave'''&lt;br&gt;([[Sky Shadow (Energon)#Toys|Sling]] &amp; [[Terradive (Energon)#Toys|Skydive]])<br /> File:EnergonDuststorm toy.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Duststorm (Energon)#Toys|Duststorm]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Duststorm (Energon)#Toys|Long Haul]])<br /> File:Energonwideload toy.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Wideload (Energon)#Toys|Wideload]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Wideload (Energon)#Toys|Gren]])<br /> File:EnergonBonecrusher toy.jpg|'''Energy Claw'''&lt;br&gt;([[Bonecrusher (Energon)#Toys|Bonecrusher]] &amp; [[Sledge (Energon)#Toys|Sledge]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-EX-01-Bonecrusher.jpg|'''Energy Claw'''&lt;br&gt;(''Super Link'' [[Bonecrusher (Energon)#Toys|Bonecrusher]] &amp; [[Sledge (Energon)#Toys|Scrapper]])<br /> File:EnergonBlackout toy.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blackout (combiner)#Toys|Blackout]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Blast-Off.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blackout (combiner)#Toys|Blast Off]])<br /> File:Energon Stormcloud toy.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Stormcloud (Energon)#Toys|Stormcloud]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Vorter.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Stormcloud (Energon)#Toys|Vorter]])<br /> File:En-toy Blight.jpg|'''Energy Laser'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blight (Energon)#Toys|Blight]] &amp; [[Kickback (Energon)#Toys|Kickback]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Swindle.jpg|'''Energy Laser'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blight (Energon)#Toys|Brawl]] &amp; [[Kickback (Energon)#Toys|Swindle]])<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> :'''Other energon weapons'''<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:Energon saber.JPG|'''[[Energon Saber#Toys|Energon Saber]]'''<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energon Saber'''&lt;br&gt;([[Kicker Jones#Toys|Kicker]])<br /> File:En-toy Kicker-TakSS03.jpg|'''Energon Saber''' and '''Destron Clone Sword'''&lt;br&gt;(SL [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Kicker2pack|Grand Convoy]] and [[Kicker Jones#GrandConvoy|Kicker]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSaber-KickerRed.jpg|'''Energon Saber'''&lt;br&gt;([[Kicker Jones#EnergonEdition|Kicker Energon Edition]])<br /> File:Energon Starscream toy.jpg|Energon sword &amp; rifle&lt;br&gt;([[Starscream (Armada)/toys|Starscream]])<br /> File:Superlink Nightscream Reverse Toy.jpg|Energon sword &amp; rifle&lt;br&gt;([[Starscream (Armada)/toys#EnergonEnergon|Nightscream Rebirth]])<br /> File:Energontoy megatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Megatron]])<br /> File:Energon-Ultra-Megatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Ultra|Galvatron]], Takara Ultra)<br /> File:Energontoy black galvatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#BlackGalvatron|Black Galvatron]])<br /> File:Energon Galvatron toy1.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#SuperGalvatron|Galvatron]], Hasbro Super)<br /> File:Energontoy galvatron g.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Galvatron General]])<br /> File:Energontoy unreleased megatron.jpg|'''Megatron Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#TargetUnreleased|Megatron]], unreleased)<br /> File:MegatronEnergonSword.jpg|'''Megatron Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;(roleplay)<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> Characters in the ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' subline of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' possess translucent &quot;Energon-infused weapons&quot;&lt;ref&gt;Pre-reveal of ''Legacy'' on the ''Transformers'' [https://www.facebook.com/transformers/posts/6219021398168002 Facebook]&lt;/ref&gt; which can either be wielded or stored on their owner's alternate mode. Autobot Energon-infused weapons are blue, while Decepticons possess purple weapons.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Gallery====<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-Skids.jpg|Energon Axe Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Skids (G1)#Legacy|Skids]]<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-Bulkhead.jpg|Energon Gatling Blaster&lt;br&gt;[[Bulkhead (Prime)/toys|Bulkhead]]<br /> File:Prime_Arcee_Energon_Weapon.jpg|Energon Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Arcee (WFC)/toys#Legacy|Arcee]]<br /> File:LegacyKickback-EnergonWeapon.jpg|Energon Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Kickback (G1)#Legacy|Kickback]]<br /> File:LegacyLaserOptimusPrime-EnergonWeapon.jpg|Energon Axe&lt;br&gt;[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Laser Optimus Prime]]<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg|Energon Blasters&lt;br&gt;[[Elita One (G1)#Legacy|Elita One]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Energon weapon''' (エネルゴンウエポン ''enerugon wepon'')<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Energon star]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/superlink.htm Gallery of Japanese promotional energon weapons at Fan2Fan]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Blades]]<br /> [[Category:Convention exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Energon franchise weapons]]<br /> [[Category:Energon type weapons| ]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Japanese promotion exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Legacy]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Energon_weapon&diff=1615581 Energon weapon 2022-06-10T02:02:39Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Gallery */</p> <hr /> <div>{{disambig2|the weapons created by the Omnicons and Terrorcons in ''Energon''|other Energon weapons|Energon weapon (disambiguation)}}<br /> [[File:Energon-Ironhides-1st-Energon-Weapon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|Let me axe you this.]]<br /> Though nominally a fuel source, if not the very lifeblood of the Cybertonian race, [[energon]] can also be fashioned by bots skilled in its use into extremely powerful '''energon weapons'''. Though potentially volatile, these weapons can be extremely devastating in battle.<br /> <br /> Most famously, the [[Omnicon]]s and [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] are capable of processing raw energon ore and fashioning it into weapons other bots can safely use, stored in and powered by small [[energon star]]s. Once the user uses up the star's energon, the weapon fades.<br /> <br /> {{TOCclear}}<br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Energon'' cartoon===<br /> [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] and [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]] supplied [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] with energon weapons to help them defend against a Terrorcon attack on [[Desert City]]. Ironhide complained that it wasn't a cannon but Optimus was pleased with the extra weapon. Ironhide used his once before he ran out of energon and it disappeared. Later, he used another energon star to summon another weapon and used it to destroy several [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb drones]]. {{storylink|Scorpinok (episode)|Scorpinok}}<br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Energon'' / ''Super Link''===<br /> [[File:EnergonWeapons.jpg|upright=1.7|thumb|What, no energon Frankenstein rakes?]]<br /> Each Omnicon and Terrorcon mold came with a unique weapon, made up from multiple parts to serve multiple purposes. [[Autobot]]s have red-hued Energon weapons, while [[Decepticon]]s have green/yellow ones.<br /> <br /> In Japan, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] took the molds for these weapons and produced numerous special [[redeco]]es for promotional purposes, often available for free with the purchase of larger toys. They also packaged new-color versions with the &quot;powered up&quot; redecoes of different characters in the normal retail line. [[Hasbro]] would later create some exclusive energon weapons of their own, but in a much more limited capacity.<br /> <br /> In addition, other toys included their own energon-based weapons... and a few even transformed into one!<br /> <br /> {{note|Most exclusive Omnicon/Terrorcon energon weapons did not come with [[Energon star|energon chip]]s. Any that did are specifically shown below. The weapons from the [[Battle Ravage#Toys|Battle Ravage]] and [[Arcee (Energon)#Toys|Arcee]] molds were not made into special redecos, as not only did they require spring-loaded assembly, but their missiles and triggers were part of a different mold-sprue.&lt;br&gt;Also, many larger toys came with clear-plastic weapons, but these have not been called out as energon weapons on packaging or in-fiction, so they are not included here.}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Gallery====<br /> :'''Omnicon / Terrorcon energon weapons'''<br /> {{note|These weapon names all come from the Takara ''Super Link'' releases. The Hasbro versions did not give them any special Proper Noun names, with the exception of the OTFCC exclusives.}}<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-Strongarm.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Strongarm (Energon)#Toys|Strongarm]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Blastarm<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-StrongarmEnergon.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Strongarm (Energon)#Energon|Energon Strongam]]<br /> File:Eironhide toy.jpg|'''Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Ironhide (Energon)#Energon|Roadbuster Wild]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonAxe-ClearGreen F2F.jpg|'''Clear Green Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;''[[TV Magazine]]'' &quot;Transformers Fan Club&quot;, with &quot;Clear Deep Blue Energy Spear&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergonAxe-AquaMarine F2F.jpg|'''Aqua Marine Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] Japan,&lt;br&gt;[[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003 &amp; [[January 1|Jan 1]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ 2000¥ of ''Super Link'' toys<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-BlackHole.jpg|'''Black Hole Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Ito Yokado, [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-NaturalGreen.jpg|'''Natural Green Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;Hello Mac, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ ''Super Link'' purchase&lt;br&gt;Joshin Kids Land, [[March 27|Mar 27]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ ''Super Link'' purchase<br /> File:En-toy EnergyAxe-VioletCluster.jpg|'''Violet Cluster Energy Axe'''&lt;br&gt;[[JUSCO]], [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus Convoy]] or [[Prowl (Energon)#Toys|Red Alert]]&lt;br&gt;JUSCO, [[March 25|Mar 25]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#EnDx|SL Grand Convoy]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Skyblast.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Skyblast (Energon)#Toys|Skyblast]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Airglide.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Skyblast (Energon)#Toys|Airglide]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-SkyfireSonic.jpg|'''Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Jetfire (Armada)#Sonic|Skyfire Sonic]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-ClearDeepBlue F2F.jpg|'''Clear Deep Blue Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;''[[TV Magazine]]'' &quot;Transformers Fan Club&quot;, with &quot;Clear Green Energy Axe&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-CoronaFlame F2F.jpg|'''Corona Flame Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[JUSCO]], [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]], [[Ironhide (Energon)#Toys|Roadbuster]], or [[Scorponok (Energon)#Toys|MegaZarak]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-RoyalClear F2F.jpg|'''Royal Clear Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;Hello Mac, [[December 26|Dec 26]] 2003,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Scorponok (Energon)#Toys|MegaZarak]]&lt;br&gt;Multiple chains [[January 1|Jan 1]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ Grand Convoy Super Mode<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-LightningYellow.jpg|'''Lightning Yellow Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] Japan, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus Convoy]],&lt;br&gt;run of 4000 pieces<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSpear-RodeoMagenta F2F.jpg|'''Rodeo Magenta Energy Spear'''&lt;br&gt;Ito Yokado, [[March 18|Mar 18]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Rodimus (Energon)#Toys|Rodimus]] or [[Prowl (Energon)#Toys|Red Alert]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Alpha.jpg|'''Alpha Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[OTFCC 2004]],&lt;br&gt;gift for completing survey,&lt;br&gt;with Omega Spear<br /> File:En-toy EnergySpear-Omega.jpg|'''Omega Spear'''&lt;br&gt;[[OTFCC 2004]],&lt;br&gt;gift for completing survey,&lt;br&gt;with Alpha Spear<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-SignalFlare.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Signal Flare (Energon)#Toys|Signal Flare]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-Offshoot.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Offshoot (Energon)#Toys|Offshoot]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Signal Flare<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-HotShot.jpg|'''Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#EnDxEn|Hot Shot Fire]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyCutter-DaylightAttack.jpg|'''Daylight Attack Edition Energy Cutter'''&lt;br&gt;Mulitple stores, [[July 7]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Wing Saber (Energon)#Toys|Wing Saber]]&lt;br&gt;(probably, see Notes)<br /> File:En-toy EnergyArrow-Arcee.jpg|'''Energy Arrow'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Arcee (Energon)#Toys|Arcee]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Ariel<br /> File:En-toy EnergyArrow-ArielParadron.jpg|'''Energy Arrow'''&lt;br&gt;[[Arcee (Energon)#Paradron|Ariel Paradron Type]], &quot;[[Toy's Dream Project]]&quot;<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRifle-BattleRavage.jpg|'''Energy Rifle'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Battle Ravage#Toys|Battle Ravage]],&lt;br&gt;Hasbro Command Ravage,&lt;br&gt;Takara [[Command Ravage#Toys|Command Jaguar Limited Desert Type]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRifle-CommandJaguar.jpg|'''Energy Rifle'''&lt;br&gt;[[Battle Ravage#Toys|Command Jaguar]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombV1.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Divebomb (Energon)#Toys|Divebomb]] version 1<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombV2.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro Divebomb version 2,&lt;br&gt;Takara Shadowhawk<br /> File:En-toy EnergyRaiden-DivebombCosmo.jpg|'''Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;[[Blackout (Terrorcon)#Toys|Shadowhawk Limited Cosmo Type]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonRaiden-Overdrive F2F.jpg|'''Overdrive Edition Energy Raiden'''&lt;br&gt;Gamers, [[May 27]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ 2000¥ of ''Super Link'' toys<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-Cruellock.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Cruellock#Toys|Cruellock]],&lt;br&gt;Takara Dinobot<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-DoomLock.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Doom-Lock (Energon)#Toys|Doom-Lock]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyBlade-Magma.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Dinobot Magma Type|Dinobot Limited Magma Type]]<br /> File:Energontoy galvatron g.jpg|'''Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;[[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Galvatron General]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergonBlade-PhantomNight F2F.jpg|'''Phantom Night Edition Energy Blade'''&lt;br&gt;Mulitple stores, [[July 7]] 2004,&lt;br&gt;gift w/ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Energon|Grand Convoy Super Mode]] or [[Wing Saber (Energon)#Toys|Wing Saber]]&lt;br&gt;(probably, see Notes)<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;Hasbro [[Insecticon (Energon)#Toys|Insecticon]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado-Takara.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;Takara [[Insecticon (Energon)#Toys|Chromhorn]]<br /> File:En-toy EnergyTornado-Forest.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;[[Chromhorn Forest Type|Chromhorn Limited Forest Type]]<br /> File:Superlink Nightscream Reverse Toy.jpg|'''Energy Tornado'''&lt;br&gt;[[Starscream (Armada)/toys#EnergonEnergon|Nightscream Rebirth]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> :'''Combiner energon weapons'''<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:EnergonTreadshot toy.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Treadshot (Energon)#Toys|Treadshot]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SC-26-Air-Rider.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Treadshot (Energon)#Toys|Air Rider]])<br /> File:EnergonWindrazor toy.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Windrazor (Energon)#Toys|Windrazor]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SC-26-Firebolt.jpg|'''Energy Sticks'''&lt;br&gt;([[Windrazor (Energon)#Toys|Firebolt]])<br /> File:EnergonSkyShadow toy.jpg|'''Spiritual Wave'''&lt;br&gt;([[Sky Shadow (Energon)#Toys|Sky Shadow]] &amp; [[Terradive (Energon)#Toys|Terradive]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Spiritual Wave'''&lt;br&gt;([[Sky Shadow (Energon)#Toys|Sling]] &amp; [[Terradive (Energon)#Toys|Skydive]])<br /> File:EnergonDuststorm toy.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Duststorm (Energon)#Toys|Duststorm]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Duststorm (Energon)#Toys|Long Haul]])<br /> File:Energonwideload toy.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Wideload (Energon)#Toys|Wideload]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energy Hand'''&lt;br&gt;([[Wideload (Energon)#Toys|Gren]])<br /> File:EnergonBonecrusher toy.jpg|'''Energy Claw'''&lt;br&gt;([[Bonecrusher (Energon)#Toys|Bonecrusher]] &amp; [[Sledge (Energon)#Toys|Sledge]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-EX-01-Bonecrusher.jpg|'''Energy Claw'''&lt;br&gt;(''Super Link'' [[Bonecrusher (Energon)#Toys|Bonecrusher]] &amp; [[Sledge (Energon)#Toys|Scrapper]])<br /> File:EnergonBlackout toy.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blackout (combiner)#Toys|Blackout]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Blast-Off.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blackout (combiner)#Toys|Blast Off]])<br /> File:Energon Stormcloud toy.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Stormcloud (Energon)#Toys|Stormcloud]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Vorter.jpg|'''Energy Machine Gun'''&lt;br&gt;([[Stormcloud (Energon)#Toys|Vorter]])<br /> File:En-toy Blight.jpg|'''Energy Laser'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blight (Energon)#Toys|Blight]] &amp; [[Kickback (Energon)#Toys|Kickback]])<br /> File:TF-Super-Link-SD-21-Swindle.jpg|'''Energy Laser'''&lt;br&gt;([[Blight (Energon)#Toys|Brawl]] &amp; [[Kickback (Energon)#Toys|Swindle]])<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> :'''Other energon weapons'''<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:Energon saber.JPG|'''[[Energon Saber#Toys|Energon Saber]]'''<br /> File:En-toy EnergonWeapon PicNeeded.jpg|'''Energon Saber'''&lt;br&gt;([[Kicker Jones#Toys|Kicker]])<br /> File:En-toy Kicker-TakSS03.jpg|'''Energon Saber''' and '''Destron Clone Sword'''&lt;br&gt;(SL [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Kicker2pack|Grand Convoy]] and [[Kicker Jones#GrandConvoy|Kicker]])<br /> File:En-toy EnergonSaber-KickerRed.jpg|'''Energon Saber'''&lt;br&gt;([[Kicker Jones#EnergonEdition|Kicker Energon Edition]])<br /> File:Energon Starscream toy.jpg|Energon sword &amp; rifle&lt;br&gt;([[Starscream (Armada)/toys|Starscream]])<br /> File:Superlink Nightscream Reverse Toy.jpg|Energon sword &amp; rifle&lt;br&gt;([[Starscream (Armada)/toys#EnergonEnergon|Nightscream Rebirth]])<br /> File:Energontoy megatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Megatron]])<br /> File:Energon-Ultra-Megatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Ultra|Galvatron]], Takara Ultra)<br /> File:Energontoy black galvatron.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#BlackGalvatron|Black Galvatron]])<br /> File:Energon Galvatron toy1.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#SuperGalvatron|Galvatron]], Hasbro Super)<br /> File:Energontoy galvatron g.jpg|'''Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Galvatron General]])<br /> File:Energontoy unreleased megatron.jpg|'''Megatron Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;([[Megatron (Armada)/toys#TargetUnreleased|Megatron]], unreleased)<br /> File:MegatronEnergonSword.jpg|'''Megatron Energon Sword'''&lt;br&gt;(roleplay)<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> Characters in the ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' subline of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' possess translucent &quot;Energon-infused weapons&quot;&lt;ref&gt;Pre-reveal of ''Legacy'' on the ''Transformers'' [https://www.facebook.com/transformers/posts/6219021398168002 Facebook]&lt;/ref&gt; which can either be wielded or stored on their owner's alternate mode. Autobot Energon-infused weapons are blue, while Decepticons possess purple weapons.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Gallery====<br /> &lt;center&gt;&lt;gallery widths=&quot;150px&quot; heights=&quot;200px&quot;&gt;<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-Skids.jpg|Energon Axe Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Skids (G1)#Legacy|Skids]]<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-Bulkhead.jpg|Energon Gatling Blaster&lt;br&gt;[[Bulkhead (Prime)/toys|Bulkhead]]<br /> File:Prime_Arcee_Energon_Weapon.jpg|Energon Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Arcee (WFC)/toys#Legacy|Arcee]]<br /> File:LegacyKickback-EnergonWeapon.jpg|Energon Blades&lt;br&gt;[[Kickback (G1)#Legacy|Kickback]]<br /> File:LegacyLaserOptimusPrime-EnergonWeapon.jpg|Energon Axe&lt;br&gt;[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Laser Optimus Prime]]<br /> File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg|Energon Blaaters&lt;br&gt;[[Elita One (G1)#Legacy|Elita One]]<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;&lt;/center&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Energon weapon''' (エネルゴンウエポン ''enerugon wepon'')<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Energon star]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/superlink.htm Gallery of Japanese promotional energon weapons at Fan2Fan]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Blades]]<br /> [[Category:Convention exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Energon franchise weapons]]<br /> [[Category:Energon type weapons| ]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Japanese promotion exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Legacy]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg&diff=1615579 File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg 2022-06-10T02:00:04Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Transformers: Legacy]] [[Elita One (G1)#Legacy|Elita-1]]'s [[Energon weapon]].<br /> {{legacystock}}</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg&diff=1615578 File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg 2022-06-10T01:58:25Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Transformers: Legacy]] [[Elita One (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Elita-1's]]'s [[Energon Blasters]].<br /> {{legacystock}}</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg&diff=1615577 File:TF-Legacy-Energon-Weapon-ElitaOne.jpg 2022-06-10T01:56:25Z <p>YellowCorvette: Transformers: Legacy Elita-One&#039;s Energon weapons.</p> <hr /> <div>Transformers: Legacy Elita-One's Energon weapons.</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers&diff=1598110 Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers 2022-03-14T01:48:48Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Transformers: Armada (2002) */</p> <hr /> <div>Over the years, many '''misconceptions and urban legends''' have sprung up within ''Transformers'' [[fandom]], often resulting from such factors as fuzzy childhood memories, inaccurate catalog illustrations, and mistranslations of foreign material.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==General misconceptions==<br /> *'''''Transformers'' is (only) a cartoon from the Eighties that was brought back into vogue with the 2007 movie.'''<br /> <br /> : A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that ''Transformers'' went away some time around 1986 (or 1987, or 1988—pick your year). People who stumbled across a newer incarnation of the ''Transformers'' franchise before 2007 commonly assumed that it had only recently popped back up as an attempt to cash in on '80s nostalgia. From 2007 onwards, people who were (obviously) aware of the [[live-action film series]] commonly believed that it was the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]] that brought the franchise back from limbo. Neither assumption is correct.<br /> <br /> :In fact, the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]] has been continuous since 1984 (there was a brief gap between 1990 and 1993 as far as the United States market was concerned, but the brand still continued with new products in other markets). It includes many [[Franchises|lines of toys, cartoons and comics]] that span almost four decades, with no sign of stopping, as Hasbro considers it a core brand. Each line has experienced varying degrees of success, rebooting when its target audience gets too old or uninterested in the toyline and fiction. <br /> <br /> :Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise long before its initial US cancellation (as it wasn't &quot;cool&quot; to be kiddy once puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that ''Transformers'' has sunk in popularity, quality and/or sales, since it's not what they remember. <br /> <br /> :It ''is'' true that ''Transformers'' hit a low point of popularity in the early 1990s, with the cancelation of Generation 1 and the unremarkable sales of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. But the successor ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' line re-established the brand for a new generation beginning in 1996, and ''Transformers'' has been a dominant toy franchise ever since. While it's true that the live-action movies caused a major hike in popularity for the brand, they didn't revive a long-forgotten franchise; rather, they merely turned a steadily successful toy series into a major worldwide multimedia phenomenon.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Generation 1 obviously has the best toys, cartoons and characters.'''<br /> <br /> :Casual fans likewise tend to assume automatically that the original 1980s iteration of ''Transformers'' is the best and most successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.<br /> <br /> :While it's hard to measure the overall success of every line in all its aspects, the original line has been surpassed in both quality and sales multiple times over (if not for warm-fuzzy nostalgia-feels in 80s kids). In factors such as realistic alternate forms, durability, articulation, action features, and complexity, various later toylines have all exceeded Generation 1. And while fiction can't be measured objectively, many fans will swear up and down by some of the later incarnations of ''Transformers''.<br /> <br /> :Arguably, ''Transformers'' is in an endless cycle of creating [[true fan|new fans who share new opinions on what is &quot;teh greatest&quot;]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SteamhammerEnergonUniverse.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Not literally a waste of packaging material.]]<br /> *'''&quot;Repackaged&quot; toys are ''literally'' unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of the old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to stores.'''<br /> <br /> :Every so often, a ''Transformers'' toy line features seemingly identical toys in multiple different [[packaging]] versions, such as multi-packs containing toys that were previously available separately. In addition, some toy lines also feature [[rebranding|rebranded]] items, namely toys that were originally released under one line, but are later re-released as part of another line with virtually no changes to the toy itself, only the packaging it is available in. The final stages of the original ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line took the concept of &quot;rebranding&quot; to a new level, featuring numerous straight re-releases of toys from the since-ended ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' lines, among many others. Since then, it has been repeated with the 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' line, the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, the 2010 ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' line and many others. Because a common [[fandom]] term for those releases is &quot;repackages&quot;, a popular misconception claims that those toys are ''literally'' &quot;repackages&quot;: namely, unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of their old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to (different) stores. (The same train of thought also—very rarely—suggests that &quot;repaints&quot;, another common fan term for [[redeco]]s, are ''literally'' &quot;[[repaint]]s&quot;, i.e. existing toys painted over in new colors, rather than new production runs from the same toolings using new plastic colors.)<br /> <br /> :Needless to say, this theory is dubious for various reasons. Generally, old unsold toys are ''not'' sent back to Hasbro. They either [[Shelfwarmer|remain in the store]] until someone finally decides to buy them, or the store somehow dumps them, such as by selling them off to closeout chains. And even ''if'' Hasbro did regularly get sent back huge shipments of unsold toys, they'd be highly unlikely to go through the effort (and additional cost) of literally repackaging them. Hasbro confirmed this in January of 2009, stating that due to the toys being manufactured in Asia, it would be a waste of time and money to repackage them only to sell them at the same price-point.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&amp;p2_articleid=1934 SirStevesGuide.com, Tri-Weekly Hasbro Q&amp;A - January 30th]&lt;/ref&gt; Thus, they are ''not'' repackaged old product, but new production runs of previous product. These days, this misconception should be much easier to dispel: Every toy now features a manufacturing date stamp etched into the figure, as well as a product code [[tampograph]]ed onto the figure, thus proving that a figure was manufactured more recently than its superficially identical predecessor.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:SmokesniperStarscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|The similarities are astounding. Especially those that aren't there.]]<br /> *'''A new toy that is vaguely reminiscent of an older toy is a retool of said toy.'''<br /> <br /> :Hasbro likes to [[redeco]] toys a lot (usually to recoup the R&amp;D costs for developing the original [[mold]]). They also like to release redecos of toys from older lines in newer lines. In some instances, Hasbro also don't just redeco a toy, they [[retool]] it (or create new toolings for new parts that replace parts of the old version of the toy)—sometimes to improve a feature or fix an error, but sometimes also to give the toy new features or [[gimmick]]s, or simply to make it different enough from the original version so owners of the original version would be interested in buying the &quot;retool&quot; as well.<br /> <br /> :Some of those retools are comparably minor (such as [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] from the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]]), whereas others can be pretty elaborate. Sometimes the retools are so elaborate that the line between &quot;retool&quot; and &quot;new [[mold]]&quot; gets blurred. The most drastic instances in this regard would be [[K-9]] from ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' (based on [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] from the same line) and [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]] from ''Cybertron'' (based on the original ''Cybertron'' Crumplezone toy), both of which have most, if not ''all'' of their parts entirely retooled. Another borderline case would be the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con]]s [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], which were released around the same time and are based on the same basic design, share a similar body structure and have very similar [[alternate mode]]s.<br /> <br /> :However, sometimes fans ''definitely'' get too far decrying a new toy a &quot;retool&quot; (or &quot;remold&quot;). Toys that share some superficial design similarities, coupled with similar transformation schemes, are often mistaken for retools even though they're simply that: Similar toys based on the same general design, maybe even directly influenced by the older toy, but nothing more. For more examples, see: [[retool#Not actually a retool|retool]].<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''Hasbro is responsible for your local store not having the newest toys right now.'''<br /> <br /> : Hasbro actually has almost nothing to do with distribution (when Product A arrives in Store B) beyond making sure the manufactured product leaves the factories and shipyards of China at the desired time. Once the items arrive on US shores, they are almost immediately sent from the ships to the distribution centers for the retail chains that ordered them. From there, it's more truck rides to various regional warehouses, which is all controlled by the retailers, not Hasbro. After that, the schedule for taking product from those warehouses and putting it on shelves is dictated by each chain's inventory system.<br /> <br /> : It's ''conceivable'' that Hasbro could take more control of the situation, but that would require chains like Wal-Mart to release the vise-like death grip they have on manufacturers' nuts that lets them dictate how the system works—and they're sooooooo not doing that.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Older collectors}}<br /> *'''Hasbro should totally cater to the wishes of older collectors, as they purchase the most ''Transformers'' product.'''<br /> <br /> : Fans would like to think they've got some sway over the direction of the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. After all, they've been buying toys for many years (as opposed to the limited purchasing span of most children), and they buy many ''more'' toys than any individual child. And in truth, Hasbro does pay attention to the desires and discussions of its older buyers, even designing certain line segments like ''Alternators'' or ''Classics'' and its successors with collectors as the primary target audience.<br /> <br /> : Collectors, however, simply can't compare to the vast numbers of children out there whose parents buy [[Transformer]]s for them. The bulk of ''Transformers'' product is purchased for and/or by young children, and if a company like Hasbro wants to stay in business and keep making money (and by extension, more toys), it must design and market its products accordingly. No accurate figures exist on the collector/children ratio, but estimates mentioned at BotCon panels range from around 10% to 20% of all purchases coming from older collectors—enough to be worth listening to, but not at all the driving force behind the brand. Past toylines have shown that betting ''too much'' on sales from adult collectors can be disastrous.<br /> <br /> : Furthermore, it's not as though the [[fandom|fans]] speak with a unified voice. More often, for every fan pushing for one particular idea, there's another fan who thinks that same idea is boring or [[Ruined FOREVER|awful]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Takara vs. Hasbro===<br /> [[File:Cybertrontoy hasbro and takara vector primes.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Vector Prime]] features different color applications dependent on whether it was released in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] or [[Hasbro]]'s market.]]<br /> *'''Takara (alternatively, Hasbro) are ''solely'' responsible for designing, developing and manufacturing (all, or certain specific) ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> <br /> : This was true only for the original [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toys]], and possibly also the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toys]]. Most of the toys from 1984 to 1986 were imported (and, occasionally, slightly altered) versions of already-existing Japanese toys originally designed and released by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]. Following that, Takara developed new toys both for the Japanese and the Western market, now specifically with ''Transformers'' in mind. The primary exceptions are a handful of toys licensed from other Japanese companies (Jetfire, Whirl, and Roadbuster, for example), and the 1986 toys for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]], which were mostly based on designs by [[Floro Dery]].<br /> <br /> : However, ever since 1988,&lt;ref name=&quot;dunsay&quot;&gt;[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/images/full/BC04Dunsay.jpg BotCon 2004 program guide interview with George Dunsay]&lt;/ref&gt; most &quot;main&quot; line toys released both in Japan and the Western hemisphere (such as the [[Unicron Trilogy]], ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'', the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]] and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]/[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'') have been designed and developed in cooperation between [[Hasbro]] (or its subsidiary [[Kenner]]) and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] (now TakaraTomy). (For the specifics of this joint venture development process, see the article about [[toy]]s.)<br /> <br /> : Still, numerous reasons have led some people to assume incorrectly that ''all'' ''Transformers'' toy lines were ''solely'' developed by only one of the two companies:<br /> <br /> :*The Western public and mainstream media, naturally, tend to be unaware of the existence of Takara (TakaraTomy these days). It's therefore logical to assume that Hasbro, the company responsible for distributing Transformers toys outside Japan, is also solely responsible for developing and manufacturing the toys. The fact that Hasbro regularly chooses not to mention their Japanese business partner in official press releases and interviews hasn't exactly helped matters, either.<br /> <br /> :*On the other hand, Western anime fans are used to Japanese companies being solely responsible for designing robot toys, which are then imported and sold by Western companies. For lack of better knowledge, those people then simply assume the same also applies to ''Transformers'' toys — namely, that Takara does ''all'' the design and engineering work on their own, and Hasbro is merely the Western ''distributor'' of those toys. The fact that the back of Hasbro's packaging for ''Transformers'' toys sports a small note saying &quot;Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd.&quot; (changed to &quot;TOMY Company, Ltd.&quot; on more recent toys) is occasionally cited as &quot;proof&quot; that Takara is the sole manufacturer of ''Transformers'' toys as well. A long paper trail of evidence to the contrary&lt;ref name=&quot;Hasbro Tour&quot;&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=70&amp;size=0&amp;start=272 Exemplary rundown] of the development process of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], shown during the Hasbro tour at [[BotCon 2007]]. Of course, Hasbro just replaced the name &quot;Takara&quot; in some of the steps with &quot;Hasbro&quot; in order to convince fans that... yeah, riiiight.&lt;/ref&gt; has not been able to convince those people of the flaws in their conspiracy theory — rather, some of them have even postulated the existence of a so-called &quot;Hasbro PR machine&quot;, whose sole purpose is to convince ''Transformers'' fans that Hasbro has a larger part in the development of ''Transformers'' toys than is actually the case.&lt;ref name=&quot;Propaganda&quot;&gt;[http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,88668 ToyBoxDX thread with anime fanboys arguing that &quot;Takara is an enormous toy '''manufacturing''' company. Hasbro doesn't manufacturer anything. The sole reason for its existence is for marketing the products of their partners and wholly-owned subs. Just to be clear here - Takara is bigger than Hasbro.&quot;] They wouldn't even believe that [[Joe Kyde]] actually worked at Hasbro. No kidding.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : That being said, there ''are'' indeed a few toys originally developed by either Hasbro or Takara without the other one's involvement, and then later picked up by the other company, but they're fewer than usually assumed: For Takara, those include the new molds for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1998 (Beast Wars II)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1999 (Beast Wars Neo)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'', plus various mostly short-lived, collector-aimed, niche market lines (such as the new ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' molds, the ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'', the ''[[Hybrid Style]]'' toys etc.); for Hasbro, those are mostly either toys originally based on fiction-based franchises that did not originate with Hasbro (such as ''[[Animorphs]]'' or the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars Transformers]]'' and their later successor, ''[[Transformers: Crossovers]]''), cross-brand lines ''within'' Hasbro where the Transformers toys only make up one part of the overall lineup (such as the [[Titanium Series]] and the [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) and a few very rare &quot;main&quot; line Transformers toys such as the ''Generation 2'' [[Power Master]]s and [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]], [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], [[Alpha Quintesson]], [[Kicker Jones#Toys|Energon Kicker]] and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''.<br /> <br /> *'''Takara's Japanese-market releases are always of intrinsically better quality than their U.S. counterparts. (E.g., they have sweeter exclusives, and are always more show-accurate, have more accessories, and have tighter quality control.)'''<br /> <br /> : This one depends a bit on the speaker, as it can either be a genuine misconception, a matter of opinion, or at worst, [[Personal canon|willful]] [[True fan|snobbery]]. But, like any broad generalization, it does have some basis.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Better quality&quot; can refer to the fact that Japanese versions of individual toys sometimes have clear plastic instead of painted-on windows like [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Movie Bumblebee]], or have vac-metallized parts where the equivalent U.S. release doesn't, like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Energon'' Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy]]. Or, &quot;better&quot; quality can refer to the fact that Japan is a less litigious society, with different toy safety laws, and Takara can thus give [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Prime]] toys old-school long smokestacks, which are now shortened in the U.S. [[for safety reasons]]. These laws also mean that [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Megatron]] is freely available in Japan, but hard to get in the U.S. (the exact opposite of ''real'' handguns, ironically). In the various forms of [[CHUG]], Takara releases also consistently boast more paint applications (for example, many ''[[Unite Warriors]]'' figures had painted hubcaps while their ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' counterparts went without), something that was ironically reversed in their version of the [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Takara Prime toyline|''Prime'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] decos&quot; does have some basis, as Takara frequently releases its toys later than Hasbro does Stateside, and thus they are better able to reflect discrepancies between late-run changes to a character's coloration in a show (such as with the original [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] or [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|''Armada'''s Tidal Wave]]). The most extreme example of this was ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)#2005 (Beast Wars Returns)|Beast Wars Returns]]'', the Japanese release of ''Beast Machines'', which was ''years'' later than in the U.S., allowing Takara to add a lot of the deco that was added to the characters by [[Mainframe Entertainment]] that was not accurate to the original toys.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More accessories&quot; mostly comes from the fact that ''some'' of Takara's releases have some extra accessories, but the only cases of this before the reissues were [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s two [[sword]]s, Megatron's sword and bullets (even though the Japanese release lacked the barrel, scope and stock extensions) and clear cases from the various cassettes. Japanese reissues have included additional accessories from the cartoon (the axe, chain mace, Energon cubes and gun mode Megatron in the ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' reissues of Optimus and Megatron, Insecticons and Starscream, respectively, the Matrix from New Year's Convoy). Some ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Super Link]]'' releases came with [[redeco]]ed [[Energon weapon]]s as well. ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Hot Shot (G1)|Hot Rod]] came with two missile launchers and missiles not included with ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Universe .282008.29|Hot Shot]] due to budget constraints, and featured the original tooling for the rear bumper for their inclusion. In contrast, ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Lambor]] was ''lacking'' the supercharger engine accessory ''Universe'' Sideswipe came with—TakaraTomy officially confirmed that they had ''deliberately omitted the accessory'' to make the toy more &quot;G1-accurate&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;generations2009&quot;&gt;Interview with Hisashi Yuki in [[Transformers Generations 2009|''Transformers Generations 2009'' vol. 1]], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/223379-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-2009-vol-1-translation.html English translation] at TFW2005.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Sweeter exclusives&quot; is really a matter of taste. If endless redecos of Generation 1 toys as completely unprecedented Generation 1 characters, buying $40 worth of toys you got a month ago for a single [[Mini-Con]], and shelling out half your mortgage for [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] gold chrome figures is what floats your boat, then yeah, Japan has better exclusives.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Tighter [[quality control]]&quot; is a total myth. Takara products are manufactured under much the same production conditions as Hasbro's: Pretty much everything for both markets is made in China—in fact, according to Hasbro [[Australia]] representatives and Hasbro designer [[Eric Siebenaler]], ''all'' of the Transformers toys jointly developed between Hasbro and Takara/TakaraTomy are manufactured at factories contracted to the Japanese toy company. This means Takara is (at least indirectly) responsible for whatever quality control problems occur with Hasbro-released toys. Takara's standards of quality control for their domestically-released toys are just as likely to let mistakes creep through. Just ask any buyer of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Thundercracker]] how well his weapons stay attached to the arms. And let's not even get started on ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Convoy's]] first production run.<br /> <br /> :*The fields in which Takara genuinely excels Hasbro are comparably minor: Takara's [[stock photography]] generally tends to be more impressive than Hasbro's, without obvious mistransformations and awkward poses, and at the same time looks more representative of the actual toy due to less reliance on blatant digital touch-ups. Likewise, Takara's [[instructions]] tend to be more detailed and useful than Hasbro's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Hasbro lost the rights to a lot of G1 Transformers names. That is why you see toys named &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot; or &quot;Decepticon Brawl&quot; these days. Takara is more competent than Hasbro and doesn't need to change their toys' names.'''<br /> <br /> :That's not quite how name rights —aka [[trademark]]— work. There are indeed instances where another company has snatched a trademark, making it unavailable for Hasbro's use. The reason is because trademarks need to be consistently used in commerce (roughly once every year or so), or it could be considered &quot;abandoned&quot;, making it open for grabs should another company try to claim it. &quot;[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]]&quot; was unavailable to [[Hasbro]] because Mattel held several similar trademarks, &quot;[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]&quot; was too similar to Gendron's &quot;Toledo 'Blue Streak'&quot; trademark, and a company named Lanard held the trademark &quot;Shockwave&quot; until 2005. This prompted Hasbro to use substitute names for toys based on these characters, such as &quot;Rodimus Major&quot; and &quot;Rodimus&quot; for Hot Rod, &quot;Silverstreak&quot; for Bluestreak and &quot;Shockblast&quot; for Shockwave (Hasbro has since managed to reacquire all three aforementioned trademarks).<br /> <br /> :Meanwhile, the names with prefixes such as &quot;Autobot&quot; or &quot;Decepticon&quot;? Those are usually non-compound single real words from the English language. Hasbro's legal department considers them too &quot;generic&quot; to be easily defensible as trademarks, hence the addition of prefixes such as &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot;, &quot;Decepticon Brawl &quot;or &quot;Constructicon Devastator&quot; for better protection. This does ''not'' work with names already trademarked by another company–otherwise, [[Bandai]] could release a toy named &quot;Gunpla Optimus Prime&quot; tomorrow, and Hasbro couldn't do anything about it.<br /> <br /> :For a while, it seemed like these trademark quibbles were limited to Hasbro, and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] was somehow exempt due to a different market situation. However, the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' line saw the emergence of quite a few &quot;Cybertron&quot;, &quot;Destron&quot; and &quot;[[Stunticon (G1)|Stuntron]]&quot; prefixes, implying that the trademark situation on the Japanese market was changing, and starting with the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|''Movie'' line]], TakaraTomy (now adopting Hasbro names instead of their established Japanese-market names) began to use &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; prefixes. With ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Transformers United|United]]'', TakaraTomy even used prefixes for names Hasbro has been able to use ''without'' prefixes.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Generation 1 Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''A super-rare blue variant of Bluestreak was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:G1 Bluestreak boxart.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|You had this as a kid. The picture, that is. Not the toy.]]<br /> :The very earliest [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] toy [[catalog]]s used a photo of a blue-sided ''[[Diaclone]]'' Fairlady Z to represent [[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]; photographs of the same toy were used for Bluestreak's own [[Instructions|instruction booklet]]. The same blue-sided color scheme was also used on his [[Package art|box art]]; which was in turn shown on ''every'' 1984 instruction booklet as a sample tech spec.<br /> :All this gave rise to a long-standing myth that a blue Bluestreak toy was sold under the ''Transformers'' brand during Generation 1, with some people going so far as to &quot;remember&quot; owning blue Bluestreaks as children, or at least knowing someone else who did. Adding to the confusion, ''{{w|ToyFare}}'' magazine had a long history of listing the supposed blue Bluestreak as a &quot;foreign [[variant]]&quot; in its monthly price guide.<br /> :However, actual samples of a blue-sided Bluestreak in a sealed ''Transformers'' box have ''never'' appeared, and the [[Karl Hartman|collectors who have been at it since the very beginning]] and [[Jon Hartman|amassed ''insane'' numbers of rare Transformers]] have never seen one.<br /> : Oddly enough, numerous other Transformers toys from that era were depicted in both catalogues and packaging art with colors they were never released in —[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], for example— yet Bluestreak is the only one to be (mis)remembered in this manner, perhaps because his name is ''Blue''streak, so he had to have been blue, right?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some Generation 1 toy molds were in use as long ago as 1974.'''<br /> :Some ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]''-derived toys have the text &quot;©1974 TAKARA&quot; stamped on them, and as a result are occasionally sold on eBay with descriptions such as &quot;original 1974 [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&quot;. However, the date 1974 refers to the introduction of the original ''[[Microman]]'' franchise due to the way Japanese IP law worked at the time; the first ''Microchange'' toys weren't even designed until the early 1980s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost.'''<br /> :Both the ''[[The Transformers Collection]]'' and ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] releases have different tape buttons and hinges than the ones found on the vintage Hasbro release. While the vintage Hasbro Soundwave had inset controls and an internal tape deck hinge, the Takara reissues have a large button block that serves as a pivot point for an external tape deck hinge. The supposed reason for this is the mold for the original versions of the buttons and door are lost or worn out, so a new single tape door was made to work with the Soundblaster mold.<br /> :In fact, the buttons and hinge used on the reissue Soundwaves were originally a [[retool]]ed running change [[variant]] of Takara's original 1985 release of Soundwave. The further Soundblaster retool was based on the later Japanese version of Soundwave, as were the reissues. Presumably, the original mold in its original condition ''is'' lost - but this happened ''long'' before Takara retooled Soundwave into Soundblaster.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Jetfire-Dutch.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Oddly enough, Optimus Prime can still be seen in the background.]]<br /> *'''Optimus Prime's toy was originally not released in Europe due to a trademark conflict.'''<br /> <br /> :When Hasbro subsidiary [[Milton Bradley]] launched the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|''Transformers'' line]] on the European continent in 1985, many prominent characters were missing, among them [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Optimus Prime]]. Bizarrely, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was branded as the Autobot leader, and depicted as such in [[In the Transformers|a pack-in mini-comic]]. Furthermore, Dutch publisher [[Junior Press]] initially renamed Optimus Prime into &quot;Jetfire&quot; for all his appearances in their translated versions of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comic]]. Optimus Prime's toy was eventually released with the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'', and the Junior Press comics subsequently referred to him by his correct name.<br /> <br /> :The reason for Optimus Prime's initial omission from the MB line-up was claimed to be due to a [[trademark]] conflict with Swedish kitchen utensil manufacturer &quot;[http://www.optimusstoves.com/ Optimus]&quot;. Though initially accepted by the fandom, this claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny. A manufacturer of kitchen utensils ''usually'' does not operate in the &quot;toys&quot; field, thus making a trademark conflict unlikely to begin with. An editor's note in the Junior Press comic trying to explain the &quot;Optimus&quot;/&quot;Jetfire&quot; name situation claimed that the ''Transformers'' were originally ''two'' toy lines by different manufacturers in the United States, and MB had only released ''one'' of them in the Netherlands, while the &quot;[[copyright]]&quot; to the name &quot;Optimus Prime&quot; belonged to the other manufacturer. Which is of course horsehockey. Many years later, this editor's note (including the incorrect use of the term &quot;copyright&quot; rather than &quot;trademark&quot;) was cited by a Dutch fan who added his own speculation (without marking it as such), thus spawning the urban myth that was subsequently accepted by the fandom.&lt;ref name=&quot;optimusdutch&quot;&gt;[http://www.fredsworkshop.com/veuro2.html The origin (?) of the &quot;Optimus trademark conflict in Europe&quot; rumor?] at The Complete Transformers Variants Page&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation lies in that French company [[Joustra]] released their own version of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' line in many of the same markets as Milton Bradley's ''Transformers''. The theory suggests that because of Joustra's exclusive contract with [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], any toys from their ''Diaclone'' line-up were initially off-limits for Milton Bradley's ''Transformers'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofive&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-5/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 5&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt; A related theory suggests that Joustra's parent company, Ceji, got into financial trouble at the time, prompting them to sign a deal with Milton Bradley allowing them to use their existing (but still unsold) ''Diaclone'' stock released in ''Transformers'' packaging, which could explain why the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'' matches up almost perfectly with Joustra's ''Diaclone'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofour&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-4/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 4&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The Generation 1 Seacon Overbite was released under the name &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; in some European markets.'''<br /> [[File:JawbreakerComic.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|UK comic exclusive name variant!]]<br /> :In [[Enemy Action!|issue 152]] of the Marvel UK comics, the first appearance of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] is called &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;, a name repeated in his appearance in [[Salvage!|issue 160]] and in an &quot;A to Z&quot; profile in &quot;[[Transformers Annual 1989]]&quot;. In the early days of online fandom, American fans concluded that this must mean that the toy had been released under a different name in Europe—which is not ''entirely'' unfounded, as Transformers often got renamed in Canada and Italy, and many European-market toys from the post-US-cancellation line had multiple names, dependent on what country they were released in.<br /> :However, European fans claimed the toy was called &quot;Overbite&quot; when released in their respective countries (except for Italy, where [[GiG]] actually didn't release the Seacons ''at all''). Furthermore, the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] in [[City of Fear!|issue #164]] of the UK comic features a question by a confused (British) reader about the &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; name, since the UK-release toy was apparently indeed called &quot;Overbite&quot; (resulting in a made-up-on-the-spot explanation from the Marvel staff to reconcile both names). Adding to the confusion was the letters page in [[A Savage Circle|issue #327]] from late 1991, which stated that Jawbreaker was his British name and Overbite his American name. By this time the toy was no longer on sale and the character had long disappeared from the comic. Apparently whoever answered letters at this point was not well-informed.<br /> :So, why ''did'' the story identify the character as &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;? The answer was unknown until 2016, when a couple of early internal [[character model|model sheets]] were offered on [[eBay]]: Overbite's model sheet has his name crossed out, with &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; written below it.&lt;ref name=&quot;modelsheets&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/93711-more-unseen-tftm-designs-plus-some-early-colors-and-some-show-design/?p=3191211 Early model sheets] at The Allspark.&lt;/ref&gt; Since the same batch of model sheets also refers to the [[Sparkabot]]s as &quot;Sparkler Minibots&quot;, another naming anomaly for the Marvel UK comics (and some translations thereof), Marvel UK writer [[Simon Furman]] may have used these model sheets (or similar reference materials) with the non-final names on them. The Overbite toy's instructions still refer to his ''weapon'' as a &quot;Jawbreaker cannon&quot;, and his weapon mode for Piranacon is called a &quot;Jawbreaker weapon&quot; in the assembly instructions.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available only in the United Kingdom/Netherlands.'''<br /> :During the early days of the Transformers online fandom, most of the active European fans in English-language forums were based in the UK and Netherlands. So when information about non-US toys (or toy variants) was spread, there simply were no fans from Germany or France around to confirm that the toys in question had also been officially available in their respective countries. (Although to be fair, it's quite possible that some toys, such as the [[Milton Bradley]]-branded Generation 1 toys, were indeed released in bigger quantities in the Netherlands than in Germany or France.)&lt;ref name=&quot;mbpart6&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-6/ &quot;MB Transformers: Part 6&quot;] at 20th Century Toy Collector.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :As a result, numerous toys like the red [[Tracks (G1)#Toys|Tracks]] and [[IGA]] Mexican-market Transformers (imported under dubious circumstances) got labeled as &quot;Netherlands-only&quot;, when they actually saw release in at least a half-dozen countries. Meanwhile, post-US-cancellation Transformers like the [[Action Master Elite]]s, &quot;[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]&quot; reissues, [[Turbomaster]]s, [[Obliterator]]s, etc, were (and sometimes still are) often referred to as &quot;UK exclusives&quot;, even though all of them were available in multiple countries, including Canada and Australia!<br /> :In reality, there are ''very'' few toys actually exclusive to a single European country. The first ''genuine'' &quot;UK exclusives&quot; were a set of multi-packs from the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live action movie]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toyline]], but the toys themselves were identical to the US releases. Meanwhile, other multi-packs or minor variants of toys from the 2007 movie toyline that were available in the UK but not the US were also available in other places, such as Japan, Hong Kong, Australia or other European countries again.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''A green variant of Trailbreaker was available in some European countries.'''<br /> :This belief seems to stem from the fact that [[IGA]]'s Mexican version of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (which, like most Mexican Transformers, was widely available on the European gray market circa 1989, as mentioned above) used the same head sculpt as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. But like the &quot;Blue&quot; Bluestreak, no samples of an actual green version of the Trailbreaker mold actually sold ''as'' &quot;Trailbreaker&quot; have been found.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====''Generation 2''====<br /> *'''The ''Generation 2'' Autobot and Decepticon insignias were originally created by Hasbro UK, whose license for using the original faction insignias owned by Hasbro US had expired.'''<br /> :The first half is ''maybe'' true, the second half certainly isn't. Long story short: While the new Autobot and Decepticon faction [[insignia]]s were popularized by the ''Generation 2'' line, said line didn't start in Europe until 1994, a year later than in the US. Instead, the ''Transformers'' brand had continued in Europe even after its cancellation in the United States in 1990 (see the page for the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]] for more details), and new European-&quot;exclusive&quot; figures were still being released in 1993, many of which were later re-released in [[rebranding|rebranded]] ''Generation 2'' packaging in Europe in 1994, while some of them were also made available (including some color, name and faction changes) under the ''Generation 2'' line in the United States in 1993. It was those designed-for-Europe 1993 pre-''Generation 2'' figures that had first featured the new Autobot and Decepticon insignias on their packaging, and a popular myth claims that they had become a necessity for the European market due to Hasbro UK and Hasbro US being legally considered distinct entities under international law, and Hasbro UK alternatively didn't want to continue paying their parent company the fee for being allowed to use these symbols, or the license for using them had expired.&lt;ref name=&quot;euhist&quot;&gt;[https://tfarchive.com/fandom/features/thirtieth-anniversary/?s=countdown-04-european-history &quot;European History&quot;] at The Transformers Archive.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The holes in this theory are legion: First of all, considering the trademark for the name &quot;The Transformers&quot; was registered with the UK Patent Office by Hasbro UK back in 1986, shouldn't the same also apply to the faction insignias? Therefore, how could Hasbro US, assuming it was indeed a distinct entity, enforce trademarks it hadn't registered in the UK? Why exactly would the UK Patent Office be enforcing the trademarks of a (supposedly) foreign company that didn't do business in the UK? In fact, why would ''anyone'' be enforcing trademark claims against Hasbro UK on behalf of Hasbro US? And why would this affect only the faction insignias? Wouldn't the names &quot;Transformers&quot;, &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; be equally subject to those alleged licensing fees?<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation is that the faction insignias were changed for the same reason the &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo was changed to a new version (both in the US and Europe) in 1989, along with a major redesign of the toys' packaging, and why there had been another change to the packaging design and &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo for the European releases in 1992: To &quot;refresh&quot; the overall presentation of the brand, making everyhing look &quot;new&quot; and different for marketing reasons. Now whether the new insignias were originally created by Hasbro US for the ''Generation 2'' line and were simply applied to the European 1993 toys first for the sake of consistency, or whether they had indeed been created by Hasbro UK and Hasbro US just liked them so much they decided to adopt them for the ''Generation 2'' line is up for debate.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====''Alternators''====<br /> *'''A yellow version of ''Alternators'' Tracks was released to North American stores (but then recalled by Hasbro).'''<br /> <br /> [[File:YellowTracks.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|Only in Japan, baby.]]<br /> :When [[Hasbro]] (and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) originally announced the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] in 2004, the toy's [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode's]] primary color was yellow. This caused the ire of a significant portion of the fandom, which insisted that the toy had to be ''blue'', like its [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] predecessor.<br /> :Hasbro eventually confirmed at [[OTFCC 2004]] that the initial idea had been to release the toy in yellow first, and then later as a running change [[variant]] in blue, like Takara would ultimately do. However, Hasbro had encountered problems at the test shot stage, where it became evident that some of the toy's innards were shining through the yellow plastic. As a result, plans for a release of the yellow version were scrapped, and it was decided to release the blue version from the get-go.<br /> :Rumors started circulating that some stores (usually [[Walmart]]) had indeed received a shipment of the toy, but were then asked by Hasbro to send back the entire batch. Naturally, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up these claims. And while toys may occasionally be recalled [[for safety reasons]], it's highly doubtful that &quot;aesthetics&quot; would be enough of a reason to warrant an expensive product recall.<br /> :The only &quot;packaged&quot; versions of a yellow ''Alternators'' Tracks we ever got to see were internet pranks of the &quot;yellow ''Binaltech'' Tracks in photoshopped Hasbro box&quot; variety. Which, of course, didn't help matters at all.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:WindchargerOverdrive.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Castrated at the request of Honda.]]<br /> *'''Hasbro omitted ''Alternators'' Windcharger's gun barrel for safety reasons.'''<br /> <br /> : When the first stolen [[Prototype|test shots]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Windcharger (G1)#Alternators|Windcharger]] surfaced in 2004, the toy sported an extraordinarily long gun barrel (which doubled as the [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]'s drive shaft). The toy was ultimately released without the barrel, which was not shown or mentioned anywhere on the packaging or in the instructions. Indeed, Windcharger's weapon accessory was officially identified as a &quot;shield&quot; on the back of the packaging (in addition to the actual, ragtop roof shield). [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], on the other hand, later released their own ''Binaltech'' version of the toy (named [[Overdrive]]) with the full barrel, prominently shown in the official promotional photos.<br /> <br /> :The initial fan theory upon seeing the barrel-less toy was that Hasbro had gutted it for safety reasons, under the notion that the long barrel might pose a choking hazard. Even though this was refuted by actual experts on toy safety standards, the rumor still persisted. An official response from Hasbro's customer service department to an e-mail inquiry (published on a fan site's message board) confirmed that the reason for the barrel's omission was &quot;so the accessory would not look like a weapon&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Windcharger gun barrel&quot;&gt;&quot;http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=13088 Response from Hasbro's customer service department regarding the lack of Alternators Windcharger's gun barrel.&lt;/ref&gt; Eventually, Hasbro (in the presence of Takara representatives) would confirm the full story at [[BotCon 2005]]: It had indeed been Honda, specifically their North American branch, that had asked to remove the gun barrel and all references to &quot;weapons&quot; from the toy, its packaging and included paperwork. Honda's Japanese department, on the other hand, had no such concerns, which is why Takara were able to release the ''Binaltech'' version with the barrel intact.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Masterpiece''====<br /> *'''''Masterpiece'' Convoy 1.0 has more diecast parts than 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime/''Masterpiece'' Convoy is made almost entirely out of diecast/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime is made entirely out of plastic.'''<br /> :This misconception was started by now defunct Hong Kong-based online retailer Action-HQ&lt;ref name=&quot;plasticahq&quot;&gt;[http://tformers.com/transformers-20th-anniversary-optimus-prime-plastic/2150/news.html &quot;20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Plastic?&quot;], November 2003.&lt;/ref&gt; and ''might'' have been extrapolated from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' toys, which are made entirely out of plastic (except for the rubber tires) for their Hasbro releases, whereas their Japanese ''Binaltech'' counterparts feature a few parts made out of [[die-cast|die-cast metal]].<br /> :In fact, however, the amount of die-cast metal parts versus injection-[[mold]]ed plastic parts is the same between 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and his Japanese ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Convoy counterpart. The only differences between the two toys (not counting the packaging) are the shortened smokestacks for Hasbro's 20th Prime and the addition of painted battle damage that is missing from the Takara version.<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Collection''====<br /> [[File:G1 Vol.1 Issue2 1.jpg|thumb|upright=0.55|A solicitation of then upcoming Takara reissues? Not really.]]<br /> *'''Takara's ''Transformers Collection'' had something to do with Dreamwave.'''<br /> :In 2002, Takara launched their series of [[Generation 1 reissues]] named ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'', also commonly referred to as &quot;bookbox reissues&quot; or even &quot;Dreamwave reissues&quot; among fans. The reason for that is simple: The [[package art]], especially for early releases such as [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Meister]] or [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]], was directly taken from the covers of and promotional posters for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave's]] first ''[[Prime Directive|Generation One]]'' mini-series drawn by [[Pat Lee]]. A common misconception among fans at that time was that Takara was coordinating their reissues with Dreamwave. Some even tried to predict upcoming reissues based on the existing Dreamwave covers. Yet [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys|Sunstreaker]] never materialized.<br /> <br /> :In fact, probably the main reason why Takara recycled Pat's Dreamwave artwork of those characters for the [[packaging]] of their reissues was its coincidental availability: The artwork had already been created and paid for, so why commission new art when they could just use what already exists? Furthermore, only about half of the TFC reissues actually sported &quot;Dreamwave&quot; package art, whereas the rest ''did'' use newly-commissioned art drawn by Japanese artist [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who has never in his life worked for Dreamwave and had been drawing in this style long before Pat Lee rose to his brief &quot;superstar artist&quot; fame.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Generations''====<br /> *'''The &quot;Generation 1&quot; characters featured in ''[[Studio Series]]'' are branded under the &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; subline.'''<br /> :This myth originates from leaked Walmart listings appending &quot;86&quot; to the end of the toyline's name, which led to the misunderstanding that the ''The Transformers: The Movie'' characters sold in ''Studio Series'' are branded differently from the rest of the line (an unaware editor on {{SITENAME_SHORT}} may have helped propagate this misconception).<br /> <br /> :Aside from having the &quot;86&quot; prefix on their ID numbers, the ''Studio Series'' G1 characters are branded exactly the same as the live-action film characters sold alongside them. However, the term &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; has stuck around as [[fandom]] terminology for those wanting to distinguish between the two continuities sold within the same toyline.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''The Transformers cartoon''====<br /> *'''The original ''The Transformers'' series was redubbed anime which originated in Japan, just like ''Battle of the Planets'', ''Voltron'', ''Robotech'' and other such shows screened in the '80s.'''<br /> : Although most moderate-to-hardcore fans are well aware that this is a fallacy, there are those more casual fans (or those who have not rewatched the original ''Transformers'' cartoon since childhood) who are under the misconception that [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'']] was an anime.<br /> : Although the original toyline and thus the characters' basic visual designs were taken from Japanese-originated products, the original characters, names, factions and entire story premise of the whole ''Transformers'' franchise were developed in the United States by [[Hasbro]], [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and eventually [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]]. Although the animation was farmed out to [[Toei|Japanese]] (and later also [[AKOM|Korean]]) [[TMS Entertainment|studios]], the writing and original voice recording of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|all four seasons of the original series]] plus ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'' was entirely done in America.<br /> : This misconception probably stems from distant childhood memories of the cartoon, the fact that shows like the aforementioned ''Robotech'' were redubbed anime and the ''Transformers''' obvious Japanese influences. This ''may'' also be due to passing exposure to [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] shows which, viewed as an adult, are ''very'' obviously redubbed anime.<br /> : This is in part related to the misconception that '''all''' ''Transformers'' toys are ''solely'' designed, developed and manufactured by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], and all [[Hasbro]] ever does is to put them in new packaging and distribute them in the Western market (see above). Because this is true for other Japanese robot toylines, and therefore it must also apply to ''Transformers''.<br /> : However, there's actually a ''little'' bit of truth to this misconception; since the G1 cartoon is an animated series made by Japanese studios, one could feasibly call it an anime; as &quot;anime&quot; is only a word to describe any form of animation in Japan, much like the word &quot;cartoon&quot; is here in the West, and ''not'' a term for a specific genre.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Jazz was written out of the series due to the death of his voice actor.'''<br /> : [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] conspicuously survives the events of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', yet went on to make no speaking appearances in the third season of the cartoon. As his voice actor, [[Scatman Crothers]], passed away of lung cancer in 1986, it is common for fans to assume that the latter caused the former. This isn't hurt by the fact that fellow Autobot and film survivor [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] also vanished due to issues involving [[Casey Kasem|his own voice actor]], nor by the fact that one of Jazz's only appearances involved him seemingly being referred to as &quot;[[Munka Spanka]].&quot; <br /> : However, the dates simply don't match up: Crothers's death happened on November 22, long after the third season had begun airing. In fact, by that point, the only remaining episodes were the two parts of &quot;[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|The Return of Optimus Prime]]&quot;, both of which aired months after the rest of the season. Add in the fact that any dialogue for the episodes would have been recorded months in advance, and the idea that Crothers dying affected the writing process becomes borderline impossible. The more likely answer is that Jazz stopped appearing, like much of the Season 1 and 2 cast, because his toy was no longer on shelves.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Headmasters'' was going to be dubbed into English and shown in America.'''<br /> : In America, &quot;Season 4&quot; consisted of &quot;The Rebirth&quot;, a 3-episode mini-series. In Japan, &quot;The Rebirth&quot; was ignored, and a full-fledged series titled ''The Headmasters'' continued the story instead. Rumors once swirled in the fandom of an American-led dub of ''The Headmasters'' series; the dub was largely finished, goes the story, till the materials were lost in a warehouse fire.<br /> : Given the meandering pace of the series (common for Japanese shows but anathema to American sensibilities), the presence of numerous characters who had no toy equivalent on US shelves, the incompatibility with the &quot;[[Nebulan]]&quot; head characters, the number of Japanese cultural references, and the very existence of &quot;[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Rebirth]]&quot;, this rumor seems unlikely on the surface.<br /> : More to the point, no official confirmation or other evidence has ever surfaced to back it up. In all likelihood the rumor was probably a {{w|Chinese whispers|Chinese Whisper}} from the fact that the laughably-bad English language [[Omni Productions]] dub was screened on UK satellite TV during the 1990s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Transformers were meant as a &quot;genderless&quot; race. Arcee and the other female Transformers were added to the brand because feminists complained about the Transformers all being male.'''<br /> : When [[Bob Budiansky]] was assigned to work out the character details for the toys, he initially intended some of them to represent female characters, like [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. However, he was not given permission by [[Hasbro]] to include females because the company feared it would have a negative impact on the sales of those toys.&lt;ref&gt;[http://rustingcarcass.yuku.com/topic/954 Rusting Carcass interview]&lt;/ref&gt; Budiansky complied, and in later years, would even pen [[Recipe for Disaster!|a story]] for the Marvel comic in which the Transformer race was stated to have no concept of gender.<br /> <br /> :[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The cartoon]] was a different story. Since television requires a bigger investment than comics, but also offers the potential for a much better payoff, it is of interest for a TV network to broadcast material that reaches the highest possible demographic. To this end, very early in its development, writer [[Jeffrey Scott]] penned a [[production bible]] which included original female Transformer characters as part of an effort to sell the series to TV Network CBS. When it was decided to produce the series for syndication rather than for a network, new story editors [[Bryce Malek]] and [[Dick Robbins]] dropped this idea, and the series went on to star an exclusively-male cast of robots. However, in late 1984, while working on the early story development for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', writer [[Ron Friedman]] argued for the inclusion of a female Autobot in the story, on the basis that he &quot;had a daughter who love[d] this stuff.&quot; Friedman won his argument, Arcee was added to the movie, and in 1985, female Autobots were incorporated into the series in advance of the film's release, with the introduction of [[Elita One]] and her [[Female Autobots]] in the episode &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]].&quot;<br /> :In other Transformers cartoons, [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] and the English dub gender flip of [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] have also been added to their respective series because of network demands, whereas [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]], [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] were a request from the writers to Hasbro.<br /> : Despite persistent stories, there is no documented instance of feminists demanding the inclusion of female Transformers (and likely, they've got something better to do than complain about another generic boys show like there are hundreds of). There is, however, a comic story called &quot;[[Prime's Rib!]]&quot; which presents Arcee's introduction to the Autobot ranks as an attempt by Optimus Prime to appease [[Feminist mob|human feminists]]. While the story is obviously satire, through hearsay it has become believed by some that it is what actually happened.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''The Transformers: The Movie''====<br /> <br /> *'''Some portions of Unicron's dialogue were recorded by an actor other than Orson Welles.'''<br /> <br /> : A common rumor in the Western fandom claimed that Unicron's final lines (&quot;Destiny... you cannot destroy my.. destiny!&quot;) were recorded by [[Leonard Nimoy]], based on claims that those lines sounded &quot;different&quot; from the rest of [[Orson Welles]]' lines.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/trivia IMDB.com reference to the Leonard Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt; Compounding the rumor is the fact that Welles died shortly after recording his ''TF:TM'' lines&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/This-Orson-Welles/dp/030680834X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6174389-3113623?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1182349938&amp;sr=8-1 According to one biography, Welles recorded his ''TF:TM'' lines on October 5, 1985 and died five days later.]&lt;/ref&gt; (and indeed, one version of the rumor has Welles actually dying ''before'' completing his lines). Despite being debunked repeatedly (including by [[Susan Blu]] and [[Wally Burr]], both of whom should know), this one still pops up from time to time.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/387399-leonard-nimoy-officially-announced-voice-sentinel-prime-13.html#post5858748 Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor repeated by TFW2005 user &quot;RedAlert Rescue&quot;.]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2007/07/when_orson_welles_was_a_transformer.single.html Slate.com discusses the Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie''/Scatman Crothers coined the term &quot;ginormous&quot;, which has since been added to several dictionaries.'''<br /> <br /> : In ''The Transformers: The Movie'', [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], voiced by [[Scatman Crothers]], described [[Unicron]] as &quot;a ginormous, weird-looking planet&quot;. The word &quot;ginormous&quot;, a portmanteau of &quot;gigantic&quot; and &quot;enormous&quot;, was officially added by the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary in 2007.&lt;ref name=&quot;webster&quot;&gt;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/newwords07.htm Merriam-Webster adding the word &quot;ginormous]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : Some fans believe that Crothers had coined the term, which is incorrect for several reasons. Even putting aside the notion that under this theory, Crothers is assumed to have ad-libbed the line (rather than simply reading it from [[Ron Friedman]]'s script), the term has actually been around for much longer, being listed in the Oxford English Dictionary as a &quot;British informal&quot; word that has existed since at least the 1940s, and was originally military slang.&lt;ref name=&quot;oxford&quot;&gt;[http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ginormous Oxford dictionary entry for &quot;ginormous&quot;]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was never released in Japan.'''<br /> <br /> : It is true that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was not released in Japan at the same time it was released in [[Hasbro]]'s markets, with Japanese fans instead getting the ''[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]'' OVA prior to the release of the third season of the show (second for Japan). But ''The Movie'' ultimately made it to Japanese theaters in August 1989. The various discrepancies between it and subsequent Japan-only Generation 1 fiction (such as who [[Prowl (G1)#The Headmasters cartoon|didn't]] [[Wheeljack (G1)#Victory cartoon|survive]] the movie) are largely a matter of the Japanese animators and writers being unaware of the precise details of the film. This also led to a similar rumor that ''Scramble City'' was an out-and-out ''replacement'' for the film, similar to how ''The Headmasters'' replaced &quot;The Rebirth.&quot; Actually viewing the OVA reveals that it has nothing to do with the events of ''The Movie'', other than that both feature [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and take place between the second and third seasons; at no point does it significantly contradict the film, and pretty much the only third-season change the film explains is where [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] came from. There were indeed attempts to summarize what had happened in the movie, including a narration added to &quot;Five Faces of Darkness&quot; and scans in ''Terebi Magazine'', but ''Scramble City'' served much more as an advertisement for its subline than a major turning point of the continuity.&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216153#post216153&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216478#post216478&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?threadid=30800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in Japan under the title &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.'''<br /> <br /> : &quot;[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix|Matrix Forever]]&quot; is actually the shortened and slightly mistranslated title of a 20-minute video created to promote the Japanese release of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', but some Western fans have been confused into thinking that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' itself was renamed &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a5d29844863d2c29&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;SpaceMafia&quot;&gt;'''Black Shadow and Blue Bacchus are both members of a &quot;Space Mafia&quot;.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :[[Black Shadow (G1)|Black Shadow]] of ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'' has his function listed as &quot;Space Gangster&quot;. An early fan translation of his on-package [[bio]] misinterpreted the Japanese word for &quot;gangster&quot; to mean &quot;Mafia&quot;, hence the belief that a &quot;Space Mafia&quot; exists in the Japanese Generation 1 universe. This was naturally extended to his partner, [[Blue Bacchus]], whose function is &quot;Space Gunman.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MetrotitanZombie&quot;&gt;'''Metrotitan is a zombie version of Metroplex.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> : [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was a Destron [[redeco]] of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] from the ''[[Transformers: Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'' portion of Japanese Generation 1 continuity. For unclear reasons, Western fans believe that Metrotitan was a &quot;zombified&quot; version of Metroplex, and a stranger variation on this rumor holds that Metrotitan was somehow &quot;regrown&quot; from one of Metroplex's legs.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot; /&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====European Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *'''Starscream and Shrapnel are female characters in the French dub of Generation 1.'''<br /> : This rumor is only partly true. The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' cartoon]] used three different dub teams for the French version: one for the TV show's dub broadcast in Quebec, one for the TV show's dub broadcast in France and one for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] used in both countries. Neither of the TV show's dubs depict [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] as a female as he uses a distinctively male voice;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM YouTube: Doublage de France: Combaticons et Égo]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMXCeXw5Vdo Doublage Québécois: Égo et Dr. Croc-en-ville]&lt;/ref&gt; however, the movie's dubbing team used a female voice for Starscream, and at one point [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] calls Starscream &quot;une imbécile&quot; (articles in French are gender-specific), clearly cementing Starscream's movie status as a female.&lt;ref&gt;http://web.archive.org/web/20080612225831/http://www.bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes&lt;/ref&gt; All the same is also true for [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who is even referred to as &quot;Mademoiselle Shrapnel&quot; by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] in the movie.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The German version of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was edited and didn't depict Starscream's death scene.'''<br /> : German TV didn't air a dubbed version of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] until 1989. ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' was aired for the first time on German TV in 1994, with only one repeat. For unknown reasons, a rumor was circulating for several years claiming that [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream's]] death was considered too &quot;violent&quot; for German TV standards for children's programs and had therefore been edited out.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&amp;fid=7489&amp;vid=38680 German movie database ''still'' listing the rumor about Starscream's &quot;edited death&quot; in TF:TM]&lt;/ref&gt; However, recordings of the TV airing still exist, which don't feature any obvious edits other than [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] infamous &quot;swear&quot; line. Furthermore, a German DVD edition of the movie released in 2004 that features an entirely different dub also depicts Starscream's death in all its glory.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.'''<br /> :The comic story &quot;[[Desert Island Risks!]]&quot; from issue 264 of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|G1 comic]] reveals that the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] have somehow lost their ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As a result, they try to build another Devastator as a new robot.<br /> <br /> :Some fans mistakenly believe that this is somehow related to a re-release of the Constructicons (now in yellow) that were available in [[The Transformers (European toyline)|Europe]] after the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' toyline had ended in the USA. Those Constructicons omitted the extra parts necessary to form Devastator; and furthermore, [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] and [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (neither of them officially named in this version; all six toys came on multi-purpose cardbacks simply named &quot;Constructicon&quot;) were [[retool]]ed to omit the tabs that were necessary for combining them (and [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]) when forming Devastator. Since the toys couldn't combine into Devastator anymore, fans believe that the [[Earthforce]] comic story was intended to serve as an &quot;explanation&quot; for this.<br /> <br /> :The problem with this theory, however, is that the yellow &quot;Euro&quot; Constructicon toys were released in 1992; the comic story, however, had already come out in early 1990. If anything, &quot;Desert Island Risks!&quot; was based on the [[Action Master]] version of Devastator, which no longer consisted of six individual Constructicons. (Also, the individual Constructicons don't even appear in the story.)<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Early internet misconceptions===<br /> <br /> *'''Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.'''<br /> [[File:G1 OptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1984—the original.]]<br /> [[File:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1988—the Powermaster version.]]<br /> <br /> :This one claims that the [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy, originally released in 1988, is the ''original'', first Optimus Prime toy ever released, rather than the ''earlier'', non-Powermaster toy, which is an entirely different mold and was originally available in 1984. This phenomenon is particularly common in [[eBay]] auctions, where Powermaster Optimus Prime toys are frequently advertised as &quot;ORIGINAL Optimus Prime&quot;.<br /> :The reasons for this misconception are obvious: Numerous people arrived late to the party—that is, became fans of the original ''Transformers'' line after the ''real'' original Optimus Prime toy had vanished off the shelves in 1986 (the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] was still shown in reruns on TV). Any of them looking for a toy of the iconic [[Autobot]] leader would only find the Powermaster toy on store shelves starting in 1988. Fast-forward to 20 years later, and people who weren't really paying a lot of attention to the brand for the past few years, now looking to sell off their childhood toys, would naturally conclude that the toy they got as a kid was the ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.<br /> :The phenomenon is even more widespread in countries such as Germany, where the cartoon wasn't officially shown on TV until 1989(!). By that point, the ''original'' toy, which had originally been released by [[Milton Bradley]] in the European market in 1985, was long gone off the shelves. Thus, the only Optimus Prime toy available to kids who had only just become fans because of the cartoon was the Powermaster version. Admittedly, [[parallel import|gray import]]s of the Mexican version of the ''original'' toy by [[IGA]] were also available in European stores around this time, and Hasbro themselves would release the original toy again two years later as part of their European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line of reissues. However, the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was still a lot more widespread.<br /> <br /> *'''20th Anniversary Optimus Prime was the Optimus Prime toy available in the 1980s/Alternators are the same toys that were available in the 1980s.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-1-Convoy.jpg|125px|thumb|Sadly, this didn't exist until 2003.]]<br /> :This misconception usually comes from people who, upon seeing the 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy (which was originally released in 2003/2004), honest-to-god swear it's the toy they had when they were a kid. Similarly, there are also people who believe that the toys from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' line are the same toys they had as kids, when they're most likely confusing them with the original Autobot Cars, which are about half the size.<br /> :The reasons for this aren't too hard to guess: People were a lot smaller when they were kids, so obviously the original Transformers toys seemed a lot larger to them. Since these fans didn't repeatedly hold or play with their Transformers while growing up, they weren't constantly adjusting to the toys' size in relation to their own. This resulted in blurred memories of outright ''gargantuan'' Transformers toys available in the 1980s. (One might wonder how tall those people would remember [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] being.)<br /> :When confronted with the original toys—now relatively small because the fans have grown up—these people often reject them, insisting the &quot;original&quot; toys were ''larger'' (occasionally even accusing the ''real'' original toys of being downsized [[knockoff]]s). Showing them the Alternators or 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, on the other hand, will bring back warm (albeit incorrect) memories.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''&quot;Bumblejumper&quot; is just a yellow Cliffjumper'''<br /> [[File:G1-toy Bumper.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, who later would be known as &quot;Bumper&quot;.]]<br /> :In 1984, Hasbro released three different similar-form toys as part of the [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] assortment: [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys|Cliffjumper]], and a [[Bumper (G1)|third unnamed toy]] that was not advertised in any capacity, sold ''only'' on Cliffjumper cards (at least, no samples on a Bumblebee card have ever surfaced). This third mold was a &quot;leftover&quot; from the ''[[Micro Change]]'' line, based on a Mazda Familia 1500XG sedan, and was very quickly phased out (resulting in him becoming the first of the &quot;holy grail&quot; super-costly Transformers on the secondary market). The exact nature of how and why this toy got released is still a mystery. Fans took to calling this third mystery mold portmanteau names such as &quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, &quot;Cliffbee&quot;, and &quot;Bumper&quot;; that last one eventually becoming his official name when he appeared in the ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|''Generation One'' Volume 1]] comic series by [[Dreamwave Productions]].<br /> :Adding to the confusion is that both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were available in two color schemes: their fiction-supported colors (Bee in yellow, Cliff in red) and in reversed colors (Bee in red, Cliff in yellow) up through 1985. And since Cliffjumper and Bumper are both similarly boxy in vehicle form, and Bumper was only available in yellow, and only on Cliffjumper cards for a very short time, and was not in any catalogs and had no name and didn't appear in any cartoons or comics....<br /> :Further adding to the mistaken memory pile is [[Hubcap (G1)#toys|Hubcap]], a yellow [[retool]] of Cliffjumper released in 1986. Fun!<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''A show-accurate Skyfire toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Jetfire-SkyfireModels.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Patience. You just have to wait 22 years.]]<br /> :Due to some legal entanglements, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was renamed &quot;Skyfire&quot; for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]], with a [[character model]] that bore only a vague resemblance to the toy. Some confused viewers seem to have come away assuming that there had to be a [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] Generation 1 toy by the name of Skyfire. (The ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Jetfire toy is actually designed as a mix between the original toy and the cartoon character model, and many later toys have aspects of the cartoon model too.)<br /> <br /> :{{-}}<br /> *'''A Unicron toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Unicron Proto.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seriously, aren't you glad your poor parents didn't have to waste like a hundred bucks on this back in '86?]]<br /> :No toys of [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] were available (or even produced beyond [[prototype]]) until 2003. In fact, the mere ''existence'' of those prototypes wasn't actually officially confirmed until many years later. The first [[Unicron/toys|official Unicron toy]] to be released came out as part of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line in 2003 and was a brand new mold, not based on an old, unused prototype.<br /> :The fictional existence of a ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' Unicron toy is likely based on schoolground one-upmanship: if one kid had a larger toy such as [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], a rival kid would claim to have a Unicron toy in order to appear cooler, but would most likely retire to his bed a sobbing mess, knowing in his heart that one day God would punish him for being a HUGE FIBBER.<br /> :What could also have attributed to this misconception was the voice actor for Unicron himself, Orson Welles. He died before the movie's release and the part in the 1986 movie was his last before his death in 1985. He loathed the part and could not even remember his character's name; he was quoted as saying, &quot;I play a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys,&quot; mistakenly assuming there was a toy for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In 2005, a crazy old man claimed he had created the original ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> :In 2005, the ''Transformers'' [[fandom]] learned, by way of a newspaper article posted by an internet fan site, of the existence of [[Henry Orenstein]], a former toymaker. Although the main focus of the article was Orenstein's then-current achievements in the field of poker, it also implied that Orenstein had &quot;created&quot; the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]]'' toys, and even featured a photo that depicted a somewhat confused-looking Orenstein holding [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]]. Many fans subsequently assumed that this was a deluded old man who believed he had created the concept of ''Transformers'' toys, even though the fandom knew full well by this point that the original toys were originally created in Japan. His status as the &quot;creator&quot; of the ''Transformers'' toy line was subsequently repeated in several other articles about the man, possibly directly based on its mention in the original 2005 article.<br /> :The ''fact'' is that Orenstein had worked for [[Hasbro]] during the 1980s, and was the person who had convinced [[George Dunsay]], then Hasbro's Vice President of R&amp;D, to acquire the rights to a (more or less) innovative type of Japanese toys, which would eventually become known as the original ''Transformers'' toys. Aside from that and the original patent for the [[rubsign]]s, which he shares with Dunsay, Orenstein has made no known contribution to the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. Obviously, the writer of said newspaper article had only marginal knowledge of the history of the ''Transformers'' brand, was told what was most likely nothing more than an anecdote by Orenstein (his biography is full of fascinating episodes, by the way), and subsequently inflated it massively with hyperbole, possibly in an attempt to gain more attention to his article due to the popularity of the brand, even before the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]]. The only question is, where did the photographer get the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy from?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''&quot;Generation 2&quot; means &quot;after ''The Transformers: The Movie''.&quot;'''<br /> :This common but explicitly false idea probably stems from the many casual fans who grew up with the original ''Transformers'' line but stopped paying much attention around 1986, when the animated ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' debuted and the ''Transformers'' craze began to die down. Many such fans regained some interest in ''Transformers'' many years later, particularly with hype surrounding the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]]. Seeing the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; batted around in fandom, it might seem natural to assume it refers to the big changeover that happened with the animated film. It certainly didn't help that, early in the life of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]], [[Pat Lee]] shared in this misconception, leading other new arrivals to the fandom to ape his use of the term.<br /> :While the original animated movie certainly marked a change from one &quot;generation&quot; of toys to another, along with some new design trends, the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; refers to [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|a very specific franchise]], marketed from 1992 to 1995—years after the animated film had come and gone. Its relative obscurity probably contributes to the mis-attribution of the term, as ''Generation 2'' marks a low point in popularity for ''Transformers'' as a whole.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Traumatizing enough as it is, frankly.]]<br /> *'''There exists an &quot;uncut version&quot; of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' containing all sorts of non-kid-friendly content.'''<br /> <br /> : These stories stem mainly from the fact that many home-video releases of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' omit two relatively minor instances of characters using profanity, which during the 1990s resulted in some [[alt.toys.transformers]] posters advertising &quot;uncut&quot; VHS copies of the movie for sale, thus either intentionally or unintentionally creating the myth of a really foul-mouthed and ultra-violent alternate version of ''The Transformers: The Movie''. At least one poster claimed to have uncut reels of the original film showing a number of violent scenes,&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/07464cbfbb5d0cc9/8aee0b30765b2b4a?hl=en#8aee0b30765b2b4a THE UNCUT JAPANESE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE]&lt;/ref&gt; but, unsurprisingly, was unwilling to provide any form of proof.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/799fec40c1aa285e/6af42e4099affa04?hl=en# Doth the Canadian protesteth too much?]&lt;/ref&gt; So have ended all claims of uncut footage from the film.<br /> <br /> :A much stranger rumor, whose origins are unclear, claims that the original theatrical cut of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' depicted [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] crumbling into dust after dying, and that that scene was cut by the distributor in mid-release because children were traumatized by the imagery. Interestingly, the &quot;[[Death of Optimus Prime]]&quot; track on the original soundtrack album does contain ten extra seconds of music. At the end, just before the song's final low-octave percussion sequence, there is a very distinct series of notes that appears nowhere else in the song and is not in the onscreen version. However, no other evidence of this &quot;lost&quot; animation sequence exists among the many storyboards, preliminary animations, interviews, varying formats, etc., that have come to light. The myth could be related to the death of Starscream, a few scenes later, where Starscream '''does''' indeed crumble to dust after being shot by Galvatron; time and distance could lead fans to confuse the two scenes.<br /> <br /> :These claims should not be confused with the extra storyboarded scenes and early script revisions which have come to light over the years, which do in fact contain a lot more violence. But no evidence exists that any of these sequences, even those that made it to storyboard, were ever animated. Especially given the expense of producing full animation.<br /> <br /> ::''See also: [[The Transformers: The Movie#Edits]].''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MegGalvJapan&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, Megatron and Galvatron are two separate characters.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :There are a few instances of Japanese fiction (and advertising) that would seem to support this notion, all of which can be attributed to a lack of communication between [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] prior to the release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. All of them were ultimately ignored by the &quot;primary&quot; fiction, namely the (dubbed) third season of the cartoon (named ''Transformers: 2010'' in Japan) and the accompanying manga, which followed the Western story concept of Galvatron being a reformatted [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].<br /> :The [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 2|second issue]] of ''[[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]]'' [[manga]] depicts [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] commanding [[Megatron Corps|a legion of automatons]] created in [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s image, which some non-Japanese-speaking fans misinterpreted as depicting Galvatron and Megatron co-existing. This even extended into ''[[The Battlestars]]'', where the appearance of Super Megatron solidified the idea to those fans; after all, surely if he were upgraded from Galvatron, he would be named Super Galvatron, right? One particularly sturdy rumor claimed that he was trying to hunt Galvatron down (possibly conflating him with [[Gilthor]]).&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=179&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;PlanetDestron&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, the Destrons (Decepticons) were invaders from a planet called Destron.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :The [[Autobot]]s were renamed &quot;Cybertrons&quot; in the Japanese translation, resulting in a misconception that the Destrons ([[Decepticon]]s) must hail from somewhere other than the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, the Japanese translation also used slightly different spellings for the faction, &quot;Cybertron&quot; (literally: サイバトロン, &quot;Sa-i-ba-to-ro-n&quot;), and the planet, (literally: セイバートロン, &quot;Se-i-baa-to-ro-n&quot;), commonly interpreted as &quot;Seibertron&quot; by Western fans, in order to avoid confusion, even though both words originally started out based on the English name &quot;Cybertron&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot;&gt;[http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 The Transformers Archive essay about various urban legends surrounding the Transformers franchise]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :This rumor presumably originates from an article a Thomas Wheeler had written for ''Attic's Collectible Toys and Values Monthly'' during the hiatus between the [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]] toylines. According to that article, Hasbro chose not to follow this element of the story because of the similarity between the term &quot;Destron&quot; and ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'''s &quot;[[Destro]]&quot; character. Of course, seeing as the story originated in America to begin with and was only dubbed into Japanese later on, this doesn't make a lot of sense. In later years, Wheeler wrote toy reviews for Master Collector's website, which occasionally also display a certain lack of knowledge about various toys and the ''Transformers'' brand's overall history, so it doesn't seem entirely out of place for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Beast Era Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Beast Wars didn't originally have the Transformers branding.'''<br /> :While the early design of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy packaging had the ''Transformers'' brand name in a smaller typeface than the main ''Beast Wars'' logo, the toy range was ''always'' officially titled ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' in the United States from day one. Later on, with the release of the [[Transmetal]]s and [[Fuzor]]s subranges, the ''Transformers'' name was increased in size and prominence on the packaging, eventually reversing the order of the two parts of the title to ''Transformers: Beast Wars''. <br /> <br /> :In Europe, things were a little less cut-and-dry: Various types of [[multilingual packaging]] that saw use in different markets further reduced the prominence (and in some cases, also the visibility) of the ''Transformers'' branding, initially relegating it to an entirely different section of the packaging far away from the ''Beast Wars'' title. Lastly, when British commercial broadcaster ITV aired the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' television series]] on their morning show (GMTV), the ''Transformers'' name was edited out of the title sequence entirely.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''The [[Vok]] are servants of [[The One]].'''<br /> :This idea was largely born out of coincidence, misunderstanding, and very poor timing. In the first season of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]], one of the more important parts of its story was the mystery surrounding an alien race called the Vok. As admitted by series creators [[Bob Forward]] and [[Larry DiTillio]], the first season was largely made up as it went along; so too was the story of the Vok. There was no truly definite plan for what these alien were, beyond their being enigmatic and otherworldly. Behind the scenes, there were some ideas bounced between Forward and DiTillio, but which were largely contradictory and not at all concrete. Ultimately, the true nature of the Vok was left unexplored in the cartoon, leaving it to ancillary media to formulate their own interpretations.<br /> :For [[BotCon 2001]], Bob Forward was given the chance to flesh out the Vok's backstory in the form of a short comic titled &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 1|Primeval Dawn]]&quot;, in which he characterized them as an evolved and enlightened form of the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], a malevolent force from the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' series from [[Marvel Comics]]. (Note that this was ''not'' Forward's background idea for the Vok, but rather DiTillio's). In this comic, the Vok declared themselves to be &quot;Guardians of the One. Defenders of the Ultimate -- Of that which must be.&quot; At the time of release, this appeared to have merely been a direct callback to a line the Vok had spoken in the cartoon episode &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 1]]&quot;—&quot;That which does not become part of the One shall become void.&quot; Though, what, exactly, they meant by &quot;the One&quot; was not explained.<br /> :After a series of delays and changed plans, the next two chapters of ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' finally saw release at [[OTFCC 2004]]. By this point, Hasbro insisted that all convention fiction must promote the new ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Transformers: Universe]]'' series. Thus, Parts 2 and 3 of ''Primeval Dawn'' were given a sizable dose of foreshadowing to the [[Universe War]]. In particular, &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]&quot; (now penned by ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)#Transformers: Universe|Universe]]'' writer [[Simon Furman]]) gave the following descriptions for the Vok:<br /> {{quote|We are '''''the Vok''''', guardians of '''''the One.''''' We are of the Source, the Core, forever committed to safeguard '''''the Plan.''''' But it was not always so. We began in flailing darkness, a '''''swarming''''' mass of '''''hungry''''' instinct and '''''primal''''' need. Unguided, we consumed, ravaged... Plagued the very macroverse we now seek to protect. Then came the '''''Light''''', and with knowledge and understanding. Our destiny and purpose revealed.}}<br /> {{quote|We spread beyond the one universe into the '''''many''''', across '''''every''''' plane of reality and consciousness, seeding the past, present, and future. We saw the '''''entirety''''' of the Creator's vision, the One... and the '''''All.''''' A '''''unity''''' of worlds, timelines, and dimensions. A multiversal confluence, harmonized and organized. In perfect '''''synchronicity.''''' But... The Plan is threatened. The '''''Enemy''''' of all creation is once more roused. His agents spreading like a '''''virus''''' throughout the omniversal system.|Vok|[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]}}<br /> :Translation: The first is another recounting of the Vok's origins as the Swarm and their purification by [[Primus]]'s power via the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. The &quot;Source&quot;/&quot;Core&quot; they speak of is Primus himself,&lt;ref&gt;One year earlier, in 2003, Furman equated Primus with the Oracle, Vector Sigma, and &quot;the Source&quot; in the ''Transformers: Universe'' [[OTFCC Live-Action Drama|live script reading]] at [[OTFCC 2003]].&lt;/ref&gt; whose essence within the Matrix is the source of Cybertronian life, and who became one with the [[core]] of Cybertron, in [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel's ''The Transformers'' comics]] (specifically those written by Furman).<br /> :The second seems to reinterpret the Vok's ill-defined experiment with prehistoric Earth as part of some still-vague service to &quot;the One&quot;/&quot;the Plan&quot;/&quot;the Creator's vision&quot;—in other words, Primus's [[Grand Plan]]. Their 'quantum-babble' description of &quot;the One and the All&quot; likewise alludes to the saying &quot;[['Til all are one]]&quot;, which is now tied directly to the Grand Plan. The &quot;Enemy of all creation&quot; is [[Unicron]], whose imminent return and &quot;agents spreading like a virus&quot; across the multiverse was the key conflict of the Universe War itself, making this more foreshadowing on Furman's part. <br /> :However, much of this deeper meaning was lost on most fans thanks to the comic's release coming just two months after the publication of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', also penned by Furman. This book introduced the godlike being simply known as &quot;[[The One]]&quot;, who created both Unicron and Primus. Later, the Hasbro website feature [[Ask Vector Prime]] would claim that Unicron and Primus were created by something called the &quot;Source&quot;. And later still, the Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime would conflate both The One and the Source with the &quot;sentient core of the universe&quot; that created Primus in the Marvel comics, canonizing a few fan theories that had flourished over the years.<br /> :In hindsight, with all three of these concepts now merged together, it is not hard to see why some fans latched onto the idea that the &quot;One&quot;, the &quot;Source&quot;, and the &quot;Core&quot; that the Vok referred to in their service of Primus in ''Primeval Dawn'' was the very same entity that ''The Ultimate Guide'', Vector Prime, and Marvel had each claimed to have been the creator of Primus. Yet, it becomes clear that that was not the intended meaning behind the Vok's dialogue when one realizes that said dialogue was instead merely an attempt [[to sell toys|to build hype]] for ''Transformers: Universe''. Thankfully, when once asked directly about the Vok's service of The One, Vector Prime neglected to address that particular part of the question altogether.<br /> <br /> ====Japanese ''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''Preface'''<br /> :To give a better idea of how the following misconceptions came about, many of them stem from how little access the Western fandom had to understandable forms of the Japanese ''Beast Wars'' media at the time. After all, when the series were first released, the internet was still a relatively &quot;new&quot; thing, where [[alt.toys.transformers|USENET forums]] were still a major outlet for fan information and websites were... rudimentary. For about two decades since that time, the most that the West had access to were a small number of fan-subtitled episodes of ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', a fansubbed version of the theatrical feature segment ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!]]'', a translation of the first ''Beast Wars II'' [[Catalog#Beast Wars II|toy catalog]], and second-hand accounts from those who had seen the untranslated episodes of either series or had read each's respective [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (manga)|series]]. Over time, those who lacked an understanding of the Japanese language would misinterpret much of these series' specifics. The following are a few of the most well known misunderstandings.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Optimusx2.JPG|thumb|Well, that's just Prime.]]<br /> *'''In Japanese ''Beast Wars'' continuity, Optimus Primal and Megatron were the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes.'''<br /> :Initially, both ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] were identified in early packaging as new incarnations of Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], respectively, in the Western release of the toyline. This was most evident in the bios of the Basic class bat Optimus Primal and alligator Megatron toys, the very first toys of the two. But, the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] would do away with this by firmly establishing that the two were instead separate individuals from their Generation 1 namesakes.<br /> :When ''Beast Wars'' was first brought over to Japan, Takara evidently thought that the original notion was still the case: Optimus Primal was renamed &quot;Convoy&quot;, the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, and the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] factions were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon factions—&quot;Cybertron&quot; and &quot;Destron&quot;, respectively. Optimus and Megatron's Ultra and Basic class toys were each given Japanese bios loosely based on the English bios of their respective Basic class toys; their Ultra class toy bios even gave them the same functions as their Generation 1 namesakes ([[Supreme Commander]] and [[Emperor of Destruction]], respectively) and the one for Optimus even implied that he was the very same Optimus of old. Both of their Basic class toys were even given special redecos with new bios that ''explicitly'' claimed the two had previously been a tractor trailer and a Walther P-38, the very altmodes of the Generation 1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. <br /> :When the first season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon began airing in Japan, it was initially ambiguous on the matter, never actually saying one way or the other if Optimus and Megatron were meant to be new characters like their English counterparts, or the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes. More unhelpful to this confusion was Optimus Primal's later big-screen guest appearance in ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'', in which the cast of ''Beast Wars II'' revered him as a &quot;legendary Supreme Commander&quot;, in contrast to his depiction in the American cartoon as merely the captain of a lowly science vessel. Likewise, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] referred to a &quot;Megatron&quot; as &quot;the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history.&quot; But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or ''Beast Wars'' Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus.<br /> :Clarity would finally come in ''Beast Wars Metals'', the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's second and third seasons, which had been held back from airing on Japanese television until after both seasons had been completed by [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]], and thus did not reach Japanese audiences until after ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' were over. In short, ''Metals'' remained consistent with the original English-language version in keeping the Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars'' namesakes as separate characters. In the Japanese dub of &quot;[[The Agenda (Part 2)]]&quot;, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron even refers to Generation 1 Megatron as &quot;My ancestor Megatron&quot;&lt;ref&gt;我先祖のメガトロン, ''Waga senzo no Megatron''&lt;/ref&gt; when relating the history of the Golden Disk to Ravage.<br /> :As for the &quot;legendary&quot; status of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus and Megatron in the movie, that was (and still is) merely an aspect of long-running Japanese children's series that have multiple shows (e.g. – ''Kamen Rider'', ''Super Sentai'', etc.), in that the main hero of a previous series is treated with awe and reverence by the cast of the next series in any crossover team-ups. Optimus Primal was the leader of the good guys from the series preceding ''Beast Wars II'', so the cast of that series viewed him with due respect. Later, the cast of ''Beast Wars Neo'' did the same for Lio Convoy of ''Beast Wars II'', calling him a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; in [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]]. Heck, even [[Big Convoy]] was called a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; multiple times in ''Neo'', even as early as the [[Big Convoy, Move Out|first episode]]. To put it simply, being &quot;legendary&quot; in Japanese ''Beast Wars'' fiction is not as special as it sounds.<br /> :Incidentally, it would later be confirmed that the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon actually took place eons ''after'' the later-made ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' (see below for more). This meant that ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron actually ''were'' figures of the distant past from the ''Beast Wars II'' cast's perspective. In hindsight, this legendary status of the two in the movie fits rather well with how, in ''Beast Machines'', Megatron singlehandedly conquered all of Cybertron and &quot;viciously&quot; captured the sparks of its entire population, while Optimus saved the whole planet from Megatron at the cost of his own life. As Japan would not receive that series until [[2004]]—six years after the movie's release—this all proved rather fortuitous in the end.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Optimus Primal was sent to Planet Gaia in the ''Beast Wars II'' movie when he flew into the alien machine at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;.'''<br /> :The ''Beast Wars II'' feature film, ''[[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers]]'', was initially released in Japanese theaters before the second season of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon first aired in Japan. During the ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' segment of this film, Optimus Primal made a guest appearance to team up with the cast of ''Beast Wars II''. At the end of the segment, he declares that he must &quot;return to Energoa&quot;; this was the name given to prehistoric Earth in the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, before its true identity as Earth was revealed. This meant that he had been transported to Planet [[Gaia]]—future Earth—from prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]].<br /> :The final episode of the first season of ''Beast Wars'', &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 2]]&quot;, ends with Optimus Primal flying up into the [[Vok]]'s [[Planet Buster|planet-destroying weapon]], sacrificing himself to save the planet. [[Aftermath|Three]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)|episodes]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|later]], he is restored to life after a difficult resurrection process. Since Primal's appearance in the movie was screened in Japan between the Japanese airings of Seasons 1 and 2 of ''Beast Wars'', some took this release order as a literal chronology for Optimus Primal's Japanese cartoon appearances, thinking that his final moment in &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot; was the exact moment he was pulled into the future and brought to Gaia. A statement given in the ''[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book]]'' even seemed to confirm this theory.&lt;ref&gt;Page 7: エイリアンマシンに激突した際、時空を超えて惑星ガイアにやってきた。(&quot;When he crashed into the [[Planet Buster|Alien Machine]], he crossed space-time and came to the planet Gaia.&quot;)&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :Some even took his presence in the movie as an explanation for why the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had great difficulty locating Primal's [[spark]] within &quot;the other side of the [[Transformer afterlife|Matrix]]&quot; in &quot;[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)]]&quot;, as if to mean that it ''wasn't'' there at the time. ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' is even bookended by sequences that recap the events of Primal's death and rebirth in ''Beast Wars''. And most of all, when Optimus is brought to Gaia, he initially appears in a glowing, yellow, ghost-like form, which ''wasn't'' the case for the story's main antagonist, [[Majin Zarak]], who had arrived on Gaia through the exact same means as Optimus. He even returns to this glowing, yellow, spectral form upon his departure near the end of the movie.<br /> :However, despite the longevity of this theory, the opening narration of the very next part of the movie—the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' season 2 episode &quot;[[Bad Spark]]&quot;—actually seems to debunk it by essentially reiterating what was true of Primal's fate in the English version of ''Beast Wars''. In this narration, Rhinox and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] claim that Optimus Primal did indeed die in the [[unspace|transwarp]] explosion at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;, and that Rhinox had brought his spark back from the dead in &quot;Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)&quot;. <br /> :While this apparently renders the ''Film Book''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s statement in error, it does seem like there was originally ''some'' intention for it to be true, given Primal's arrival and departure in the movie depicting him in his aforementioned ghostly form. But, while a neat idea, it raises too many questions and relies on too many assumptions in order for it to sensibly fit with Primal's onscreen resurrection. And since Rhinox and Rattrap claim otherwise, this would mean that Optimus was brought to the future from a different point during the Beast Wars, ''before'' the end of Season 1 due to Primal having his Season 1 body in the movie. Exactly when during Season 1, however, has never been disclosed.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {{anchor|JBWchronology}}<br /> [[File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|thumb|Everything you know is a lie!]]<br /> *'''The characters of the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoons hail from the same time-period as the cast of ''Beast Wars'', at a point set prior to ''Beast Machines''.'''<br /> :It's almost not fair to call this one a misconception: By all appearances, this ''was'' the original intent for the Japanese-original ''Beast Wars'' shows. Both the first catalog packed in with ''Beast Wars II'' toys and the ''Beast Wars II'' manga present Lio Convoy and Galvatron as contemporaries of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron, and the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon initially gave no reason to doubt that this also applied to its story. ''Beast Wars Neo'' even featured a [[Convoy Council|Maximal governing body]] that could have very well been the Japanese version of the [[Maximal Elder]]s/[[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. But then, months into its run, the [[Emissary of the Fourth Planet|thirty-sixth episode]] of ''Beast Wars II'' stated that humanity hadn't lived on Gaia for &quot;tens of thousands of years.&quot; As the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon [[Dark Designs|established]] that its cast hailed from only three centuries after the Generation 1 era, when Earth was still populated by humans, this meant that it was impossible for the 'bots of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' to be from the same time period, and that the two Japanese series were, in fact, set ''long'' after the home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast. Of course, as it would be nearly twenty years before either series was translated in full, western fans never ''learned'' about this at the time and, with only the catalog to go on, continued to assume that its story held true for the Japanese cartoons. It was only in the 2006, when TakaraTomy published a massive [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|Generation 1/Beast Era timeline]], which adhered to the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon's dating for the series, that English-speaking fans at large first learned of this fact.<br /> :Now, to be honest, ''Beast Wars II'' probably didn't ''intentionally'' deviate from ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, but rather, just kinda goofed on the continuity, and history had to roll with it. That said, this did fix a discrepancy: By coincidence, both ''Beast Wars Neo'' and ''Beast Machines'' (both produced around the same time) featured the mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]], but depicted it in two radically different, very contradictory ways. ''Beast Wars Neo'' had presented the computer as the publicly-known ruler of Cybertron, while ''Beast Machines'' depicted it as a long-lost legend, unheard of for years until it was reactivated in [[The Reformatting|the first episode of the series]]. If ''Beast Wars Neo'' was meant to occur before ''Beast Machines'' (as was probably the intent), this didn't make any sense, but the timeline shuffle caused by ''Beast Wars II'' now helped these two different portrayals fit together.<br /> :It did create a ''new'' discrepancy, though: In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Cybertron was depicted with its traditional appearance as a metallic planet, while, at the end of ''Beast Machines'', it was converted into a [[technorganic]] form. In [[2019]], a ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]'' [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Blue Big Convoy)|pack-in comic]] fixed this last gap in the timeline, explaining how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world eons after its [[Great Transformation|technorganic reformatting]].<br /> :While these retcons have tidied things up, the fans' original understanding of the timeline has influenced several pieces of American Beast Era media over the years. The Hasbro toy bio for [[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] [[Cybershark]] referred to &quot;a rogue band of Cybertronian space pirates&quot; (an allusion to ''Beast Wars II'''s [[Seacon (BW)|Seacon Space Pirates]]) as his contemporaries, while the bio for ''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]'' [[Magmatron]] all but explicitly pegged him as the same Magmatron from ''Neo'', mentioning his &quot;[[Emperor of Destruction|emperor of destruction]]&quot; title and his involvement in &quot;an interplanetary quest for [[Angolmois Energy|energy capsules]]&quot;; the latter of which was also placed, by the bio, before the events of ''Beast Machines''.&lt;ref&gt;The full first sentence of ''Dinobots'' Magmatron's bio: &quot;Following an interplanetary quest for energy capsules, Magmatron returned to Cybertron to find an alarmingly growing population of Vehicon drones.&quot;&lt;/ref&gt; In both the ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]'' comic series and the prose story &quot;[[Wreckers: Finale Part II]]&quot;, characters from the two Japanese series appeared on Cybertron as contemporaries of the ''Beast Machines'' cast, at points set within a year after the planet's reformatting. The latter story even referred to [[Combatron (BW)|some of them]] as &quot;pre-reformatting&quot;. [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]]'' comic series likewise chose to depict the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' casts as contemporaries of the ''Beast Wars'' characters (though these series played faster and looser with the timeline, depicting events similar to ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' as having occurred ''before'' the home time-period of the ''Beast Wars'', instead of during or after), while the ''Beast Wars II'' Predacons [[Dirge (BW)|Dirge]] and [[BB (BW)|Max-B]] made appearances in the ''Beast Wars'' prequels &quot;[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]&quot; and &quot;[[Intimidation Game]]&quot;, respectively.<br /> :Even after the release of the Japanese Generation 1/Beast Era timeline, new media set in other continuities have chosen to continue depicting characters from ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' (and even ''Car Robots'') existing side-by-side with the ''Beast Wars'' cast, with such series as ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' and the ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' comics set in the &quot;[[Legends World]]&quot; presenting all of them living together in societies and scenarios unique to those series.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The characters in ''Beast Wars II'' travel forward in time to Future Earth just like how the characters of ''Beast Wars'' travel back in time to Prehistoric Earth.'''<br /> :Seemingly an offshoot of the above misconception, this appears to have been born out of a misinterpretation of a scene in the [[The New Forces Arrive!|first episode]]. When the Maximal starship ''[[Yukikaze (BW)|Yukikaze]]'' takes off into space, there is a shot where it vanishes in a flash of light and reappears elsewhere within the vicinity of Gaia. Some have mistaken this flash of light to mean that the ''Yukikaze'' traveled through [[unspace|transwarp space]] forward in time to arrive in the future, as if to echo the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s own time-jump to the past in ''Beast Wars''.<br /> :This feels like an attempt to hold on to the belief of the ''Beast Wars II'' cast originating from the same home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast, while also aligning with the revelation of Gaia being Earth several tens of millennia after humanity left planet.<br /> :In truth, however, what really happens during the scene in question is that the ''Yukikaze'' simply travels to Gaia with no time travel involved. The ship's disappearance and reappearance in a flash of light was merely the ship going to warp speed, just like many other spacecraft of science fiction.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars II'', Apache is a drunkard as part of a Native American stereotype.'''<br /> :[[Apache]] did indeed get drunk in the first episode of the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon, but only in grief, believing (erroneously) that his earlier actions had caused the death of [[Lio Convoy]] (which didn't happen). He did not get drunk again for the duration of the cartoon, nor did he ever do so in the manga. Outside of that, the Native American stereotype &quot;common&quot; to Japanese fictions is a stoic, silent, and often mystical warrior—none of which could be used to accurately describe Apache at all.<br /> :Amusingly enough, in the sixth installment of the ''Beast Wars II'' manga, ''Lio Convoy'' gets drunk for no apparent reason and ends up trashing Apache's room.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWNeo Unicron.JPG|thumb|Looks can be deceiving.]]<br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Unicron was resurrected by possessing the corpse of Galvatron.'''<br /> :This misunderstanding is pretty understandable. In [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]], the coveted [[Angolmois Energy]] is revealed to be the life energy of [[Unicron]], who is successfully resurrected in [[Unicron Revived!?|the very next episode]]. Yet, when he makes his debut, he appears in the form of Galvatron, who had seemingly perished in the [[Farewell! Lio Convoy|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars II''. At first glance, it looks as though Galvatron's corpse had been recovered and used as a vessel to house Unicron's Angolmois Energy, and those who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply assumed this to be the case.<br /> :However, the Japanese dialogue actually states otherwise. Unicron's resurrected form is not Galvatron's physical body, but is actually an energy body made of Angolmois Energy that Unicron has deliberately shaped into resembling the likeness of Galvatron. He takes this form in an initial attempt to trick Magmatron into thinking that he ''is'' Galvatron, impersonating the deceased Predacon leader before revealing his true identity. After which , he simply decided to continue using Galvatron's likewise as his energy body's default appearance, even using Galvatron's name when transforming between dragon and robot modes.<br /> :Ironically, the misconception of Galvatron's body absorbing the Angolmois Energy as a resurrection vessel is almost exactly what Unicron wanted Magmatron to think, with the difference being that Unicron wanted Magmatron to think that the absorption was for Galvatron's revival instead of Unicron's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWN Blentrons absorbed.jpg|thumb|Unicron absorbs the Blentrons for no reasons related Angolmois Energy]]<br /> *'''The Blentrons are made of Angolmois Energy, and are later absorbed by Unicron to fully complete his resurrection.'''<br /> :In [[End of the Maximals!?|Episode 33]] of ''Beast Wars Neo'', the resurrected Unicron reaches Planet Cybertron in his aim to posses [[Vector Sigma]] and turn Cybertron into his new physical body. However, before touching down on the planet, he battles his way through the entire Maximal space fleet, utterly annihilating it and exhausting much of his power in the process. In his weakened state, he is then nearly destroyed in a fight with Big Convoy. His loyal minions, the [[Blentron]]s, soon come to Unicron's aid and are promptly absorbed by their master.<br /> :Since Angolmois Energy is Unicron's energy, fans who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply misinterpreted the absorption of the Blentrons as if to say that they too were made up of Angolmois Energy, and that Unicron needed to absorb them to top off the last of his energy needed to complete his resurrection.<br /> :In actuality, the three were absorbed because, in that moment, Unicron had been significantly weakened and needed to replenish his health. Otherwise, he would have been destroyed by Big Convoy's Mammoth Dynamite attack, which almost completely dissipated Unicron's energy body. <br /> :The series didn't actually give any kind of backstory for the Blentrons. While they were creations of Unicron in the manga, no such origin was given in the show. Regardless, the idea of the three being made out of Angolmois Energy was certainly never stated or even suggested, having been born out of this misinterpretation of Unicron absorbing them to save his own life.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Beast Machines''====<br /> *'''A ''Beast Machines'' writer said, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns.&quot;'''<br /> :''Beast Machines'' was the first (but not the last) ''Transformers'' series to explicitly avoid all hand-held projectile [[weapon]]ry. While the [[Vehicon (BM)|villains]] still had traditional &quot;blasters&quot; mounted on their bodies, some of the [[Maximal|heroes]]' weapons were more esoteric (such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]'s energy-web attack, activated by putting her hands on the ground, or [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s gauntlets, powered by absorbing enemy fire). According to story editor [[Bob Skir]], this creative decision was agreed upon between the story editors, [[Fox Kids]], [[Mainframe Entertainment]], and [[Hasbro]],&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot;&gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222040119/http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Sat_06_Nov_1999.html Archived Q&amp;A from Bob Skir's now-defunct website,] where Skir responds to the gun controversy (question 7).&lt;/ref&gt; and it is indeed reflected in the toys as well. <br /> <br /> :Note that many Maximals had weaponry that was functionally no different from a &quot;gun&quot;—compare [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]'s hip-mounted energy cannons, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]'s back-mounted sonic blaster, or Optimus Primal's chest-mounted energy disc launcher to [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]'s shoulder-mounted ray guns or [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]'s wrist-mounted energy... tossing thingies. <br /> <br /> :On his website, Skir also elaborated on his own position as a writer choosing if or how to portray gun use, including this statement: &quot;Our heroes use their wiles and resourcefulness, plus a few cool weapons. Guns? I've never been a fan of them myself, and do not write heroes who need them.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://members.aol.com/zobovor/guns.html Article on the fan Dave &quot;Zobovor&quot; Edwards' personal site,] quoting Bob Skir's original gun statement.&lt;/ref&gt; Some fans interpreted Skir as condemning ''all'' gun use, even in the real world, no matter the circumstances. This led to the misquote, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns,&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/be5e55a90df944bb/b748601b997b3508#b748601b997b3508 Alt.toys.transformers thread] with the misquote and attendant assumptions right at the start.&lt;/ref&gt; which remains a notoriously persistent error in the fandom. Skir, responding to the controversy, said on his site that &quot;there '''are''' heroes who '''do''' need guns (such as the [[Punisher]]). Spider-Man doesn't need guns. Neither does the [[Hulk]]. And neither do Optimus, Cheetor, Black Arachnia{{sic}}, et al.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot; /&gt;<br /> :Notably, the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|series]] [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|immediately]] [[Movie (franchise)|following]] ''Beast Machines'' did return to classic hand-held gun use among both heroes and villains. However, the later ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' series once again eschewed guns, probably because of its younger target audience.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''The ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline was known as &quot;Transformers 2000&quot; in Japan.'''<br /> :As information about the then-new [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'' toyline]] began to trickle out of Japan in 2000, early rumors purportedly from Japanese sources indicated that it was officially named &quot;Transformers 2000&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Transformers 2000&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e6436b92178f0c0a&lt;/ref&gt; It's possible those Japanese sources were also going by early, inaccurate rumors or perhaps a soon-to-be-discarded working title for the line. The idea persisted with many Western fans well after the true name of the show was revealed, encouraged by online import retailers (who were equally misinformed) using the title to promote pre-orders on their sites.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Robots in Disguise'' Side Burn was so complex, the toy's designer later apologized.'''<br /> :Basically. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'']] [[Side Burn (RID)|Speedbreaker]] was the first ''Transformers'' toy designed by [[Hironori Kobayashi]], and it kind of shows. In a later interview, he admitted that the development process was a &quot;painful experience&quot; and an &quot;admonition&quot; to do better in the future.&lt;ref name=&quot;Translated interview at ToyboxDX&quot;&gt;http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?3,97799,97800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''Unlike the English version, Gigatron (Megatron) has multiple personalities, a different one for each of his modes.'''<br /> :This seems to have arisen from how, in the Japanese version, Gigatron's bat and dragon modes each have their own unique-sounding voice and way of speaking. The Gigabat voice is higher-pitched, a bit dim-sounding, and speaks like how older people used to speak during Japan's Edo period, ending most of its dialogue with &quot;deansu&quot; (であんす). For the Gigadragon mode, Gigatron speaks with a much deeper, angrier, and overall more aggressive-sounding voice. Both of these differ from his much calmer and more &quot;normal&quot; sounding voice in robot mode (which he also used in each of his other modes), and are most noticeable in the first episode, in which Gigatron makes heavy use of both his Gigabat and Gigadragon modes.<br /> :By contrast, the English ''Robots in Disguise'' version gave Megatron one voice for all of his modes, and rewrote his personality to be much more theatrical and ill-tempered. This in turn made his English voice sound like a combination of the two unique Japanese voices, combining the over-the-top aspects of the Gigabat voice with the seething aggression of the Gigadragon voice.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Unicron Trilogy misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers: Armada'' (2002)====<br /> *'''Micron Legend is the Japanese dub of Armada, that was done later for Japanese audiences.'''<br /> : This misconception seems to be caused by how the series was more commonly known as Armada among most fans and that Armada came out sooner than Micron Legend. In reality, however, the notion that Micron Legend was just the Japanese dub of Armada that was done later for Japanese audiences is flat out incorrect. <br /> <br /> : The series was originally initiated and produced in Japanese as Micron Legend, but due to various executive meddling by both Hasbro/Takara and Cartoon Network, the English dub of Armada was severely rushed out and released to the English-speaking market much sooner than Micron Legend in Japan, which creates the confusion that Armada was the “original” while Micron Legend is mistaken as “Just the dub for Japanese audiences”.<br /> <br /> ==Live-action film series misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers'' (2007)====<br /> [[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Look! No 2007 movie!]]<br /> *'''The movie series takes place in the Generation 1 timeline in Japan.'''<br /> : This is another one of those instances where one TakaraTomy thing, very early in the life cycle of a new ''Transformers'' [[franchise]], will say one thing about said franchise, and then literally ''everything else ever'' will say another.<br /> <br /> : When the live-action movie series was getting started, TakaraTomy went live with their &quot;World of Transformers&quot; website. The website timeline appeared to make the rather bizarre claim that the 2007 live-action movie also somehow took place in the Japanese Generation 1 continuity, between ''The Transformers: The Movie'' and ''Transformers 2010'' in the year 2007. However, this was ''not'' reflected by the site's accompanying flow-chart, and was established to not be the case by the [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|''Kiss Players'' timeline]] (which noted that the movie-verse Autobots and Decepticons came from another universe when they appeared in [[Transformers: Beast Wars Diorama Story|''Beast Wars Diorama Story'']]). And of course, nothing else ever attempted to make the connection.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Transformers'' was nearly rated R by the MPAA.'''<br /> : In the spring of 2007, it was reported that ''{{w|Disturbia (film)|Disturbia}}'', a then-upcoming [[DreamWorks]] film starring [[Shia LaBeouf]] and produced by [[Steven Spielberg]], had received an R rating from the {{w|Motion Picture Association of America}}. That film's rating was eventually lowered to PG-13 on appeal, but in the meantime some ''Transformers'' fans became confused and believed that it was ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' that had been rated R, leading to some heated discussion on ''Transformers'' message boards.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MovieCreditsNoBrawl.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Invisible credit.]]<br /> *'''Brawl is named in the credits.'''<br /> <br /> : The Decepticon tank, who was named &quot;Devastator&quot; in a subtitle in the movie, ended up being named &quot;[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]&quot; in [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toy line]]. Both Hasbro and the screenwriters, [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]], have expressly favored the toy's name, referring to the name in the movie as an &quot;error&quot;.<br /> <br /> : Since the character has a &quot;speaking&quot; line in the movie, some fans claim that the voice actor is named in the ending credits, and the character's name is stated as &quot;Brawl&quot; there. In fact, however, there's no credit ''at all'' for the character, under either name, as he has no voice actor, his &quot;speaking role&quot; being little more than echo-y electronic gibberish.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BanachekMustacheMan.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|One of these is not like the others.]]<br /> *'''The Decepticons' hologram is Tom Banachek.'''<br /> <br /> : Several Decepticons in the movie are seen using a holographic &quot;pilot&quot;/&quot;driver&quot; based on the same short-haired, mustache-clad human with an intense stare, only wearing different clothes to match their respective [[alternate mode]]s. Since [[Tom Banachek]], the head of [[Sector Seven]]'s Advanced Research Division, also sports a mustache, a short-cropped hairstyle and a pretty intense stare, many fans mistakenly believe that the Decepticons' hologram is meant to look like him.<br /> <br /> : There are two problems with that. One, the Decepticons' hologram, dubbed &quot;[[Moustache Man]]&quot; in the credits, is played by real-life United States Air Force Major [[Brian Reece]], whereas Tom Banachek is portrayed by established actor [[Michael O'Neill]].<br /> <br /> :Two... how would the Decepticons know who Banachek even was to model a hologram after him?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Revenge of the Fallen''====<br /> *'''Barricade's return?'''<br /> :A common misconception among fans is that [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang alternate mode was spotted on the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', possibly as part of the alleged &quot;disinformation campaign&quot; director [[Michael Bay]] repeatedly insisted he had initiated. In fact, however, a truck transporting three &quot;Barricade&quot; prop vehicles was spotted in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than ''two months'' before principal shooting for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' started.&lt;ref name=&quot;vehspotted&quot;&gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; There's been no indication that this had any significance other than moving the prop cars... someplace. Barricade would not make his reappearance until the ''next'' movie, ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Dark of the Moon''====<br /> *'''Optimus Prime let the Decepticons take over Chicago.'''<br /> :Given the comparatively darker tone—and a decidedly more ruthless interpretation of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—of the first five live-action films when compared to the majority of the ''Transformers'' franchise, one common criticism of ''Dark of the Moon'' was Prime's apparent complacency in the face of the Decepticon attack on [[Chicago]] after the destruction of the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''—sometimes interpreted by some fans and critics as him &quot;teaching Earth a lesson&quot; after humanity unanimously agrees to exile Prime's Autobots in the hopes of appeasing [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. This reading of the film seems to misinterpret Prime's line of &quot;now your leaders will understand&quot; and &quot;we needed them to believe that we had gone&quot; as Prime having engineered the entire crisis for his own political gain; the second line assuredly refers to the ''Decepticons'', as Optimus and company faking their deaths allowed the heroes to sneak to Chicago and catch Megatron's forces by surprise. Even without the script, Cape Canaveral and Chicago are ''very'' far apart; if we assume that the Autobots hightailed it to Chicago seconds after splashing down in the Atlantic, it would ''still'' take them about eighteen hours to get there, a time discrepancy that more or less matches up with the way events play out onscreen.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Bumblebee''====<br /> *'''Bumblebee is a reboot, and is separate from the rest of the &quot;Bayverse&quot;'''.<br /> : ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' was initially conceived as a straight prequel to the ''Transformers'' films, chronologically falling between the [[World War II]] flashback sequences seen in ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]'' and the 2007 ''Transformers'' film. However, the movie was hastily retooled relatively late into production, tweaking the film's opening to show Bumblebee arriving on Earth in the 1980s, and, as a result, became more-or-less irreconcilable with both the information given by the ''The Last Knight'' and the various prequel comics that had gone before. Likely due to a combination of wishful thinking and resentment of the Bay films, members of the fandom and various mainstream nerd sites quickly jumped on the idea that ''Bumblebee'' was now a &quot;reboot&quot; of the film series as a whole, similar to the {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe}}'s interpretation of [[Spider-Man]] vs. his prior two cinematic outings—though both [[Hasbro]] and [[Paramount Pictures]] have been fairly mum on just how ''Bumblebee'' and the five prior Bay films will fit together moving forward: the closest we've gotten to a conclusive answer is that the film represents the start of a &quot;new storytelling universe,&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467064/looks-like-bumblebee-is-officially-the-start-of-a-new-transformers-movie-universe &quot;Looks Like Bumblebee is Officially The Start Of A New Transformers Movie Universe]&lt;/ref&gt; which is... a pretty ambiguous statement, to say the least. Other fiction, such as the ''[[Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome]]'' comic included with the home media release of the film, has continued to tie the events of ''Bumblebee'' to the rest of the live-action film series, suggesting Hasbro is at least maintaining its prequel status for now.<br /> <br /> : This vaguery has only continued in the lead-up to ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]'', with the only official statement being their desire to avoid the &quot;timeline&quot; of the first five films. This is almost certainly meant to refer to the time''frame'' of the preceding films' events, with ''Rise of the Beasts'' being yet another prequel story set before the 2007 film, rather than any kind of alternate timeline. Either way, for the moment, we're no closer to a definitive answer.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==''Animated'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Hasbro can't make new toys based on Animated characters without Cartoon Network's approval.'''<br /> <br /> : While not rooted in any specific source, there has been a longstanding misconception that because they produced the cartoon and collaborated with Hasbro on the toy designs, [[Cartoon Network]] maintains partial (if not complete) ownership over the character designs in ''Transformers Animated'', and is thus the reason why no new toys of the characters have been released in years.<br /> <br /> : In truth, Hasbro owns ''Animated'' lock, stock, and barrel. A quick glance at the legal jargon on the back of any ''Animated'' toy packaging will show Hasbro as the sole [[copyright]] holder listed. In fact, the only legalese mentioning Cartoon Network is the [[trademark]] for their own name and logo, due to printing &quot;AS SEEN ON CN!&quot; on the box. A handful of ''Animated'' toys were also released after the show ended via [[Fun Publications]], which also listed Hasbro as the sole copyright holder. Similarly, Cartoon Network goes unmentioned in the copyrights for other merchandise like DVDs and tie-in comics. In Japan, the [[Blackarachnia (Animated)#Toys|''Animated'' Blackarachnia toy]] was even retooled years after ''Animated'' ended to create the [[Blackarachnia (BW)/toys#Legends|''Legends'' toy for ''Beast Wars'' Blackarachnia]], again with no mention of Cartoon Network anywhere.<br /> <br /> : The only place you'll find a Cartoon Network copyright is in the credits of the episodes themselves, but Hasbro appears to have long since bought out whatever rights Cartoon Network retained, hence their ability to freely upload ''Animated'' clips to their YouTube channels and make it available for streaming alongside their other ''Transformers'' cartoons on services like [[Tubi]] (very much unlike [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)#Production|the one show we know they ''don't'' have all the rights to]]). And in either case, as mentioned above, it wouldn't prevent them from making new toys using those characters or designs. A much more likely explanation is Hasbro simply wanting new toys to fit a certain aesthetic, one that ''Animated''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s designs don't quite fit. So instead, they simply choose to adapt the characters to fit the new medium, such as with [[Bulkhead (Prime)|''Prime'' Bulkhead]] or [[Clobber (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Clobber]]. The most overt case of this is the 2015 release of the [[Slipstream (Animated)#Legends|''Legends'' Slipstream toy]], retooled from the non-''Animated'' [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Windblade toy]] but explicitly spelled out to be the ''Animated'' character via the [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|accompanying issue]] of the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Legends'' comic]], which itself featured multiple cameos by ''Animated'' characters.<br /> <br /> : Basically, there's nothing stopping them from making new toys based on ''Animated'' characters if they wanted to... they just don't want to.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The Japanese dub of ''Transformers Animated'' presents it as a prequel to the live-action movies.'''<br /> <br /> : This appears to have ''some'' basis: back in March 2010, the then-recent edition of ''[[TV Magazine]]'' published some early pre-release information about the Japanese dub of the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'' cartoon]]. Among the details announced was the name-change of [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to &quot;Ironhide&quot;, and changing his character to be closer in personality to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] from the [[live-action film series|live-action movies]]. The article allegedly also claimed that because [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] was not Supreme Commander of the Autobots in ''Animated'', the cartoon would be &quot;set chronologically before the live action movies&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tvmagani&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/latest-edition-of-tv-magazine-reveals-new-transformers-animated-japan-details-169265/ TFW2005 reporting on ''TV Magazine'' article about the Japanese dub of the ''Transformers Animated'' cartoon], March 2010.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : In actuality, however, not much of this has been reflected in the dub itself: aside from the aforementioned renaming of Bulkhead into &quot;Ironhide&quot;, there's nothing in the Japanese dub that ties the ''Animated'' cartoon any closer to the live-action movies than its American counterpart.<br /> <br /> : TakaraTomy chose to use the movie-style branding for ''Animated'' products, rendering the &quot;Transformers Animated&quot; logo in the gray steel look used for the movies.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Aligned Continuity misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''''Transformers: Prime'' was not initially planned to have any toys.'''<br /> :The [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|toy line]] for ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' was ''very'' delayed, debuting roughly a year after the associated cartoon had premiered. Previously, at a [[BotCon 2010]] panel about the then-upcoming ''Prime'' cartoon, a Hasbro representative had made a statement that they weren't talking about toys just then. ''Transformers'' fandom being [[Red Alert (G1)|what]] [[Breakdown (G1)|it is]], a widespread belief developed that Hasbro was never going to make ''Prime'' toys ''at all.'' As additional information gradually surfaced, this evolved into a rumor that ''Prime'' would only have a small number of toys, with some further speculating that they would also be limited to the Deluxe [[size class]] (since initially only Deluxes had been seen). The eventual revelation of a full ''Prime'' toyline caused the belief to evolve once more, with the new theory being that there wasn't ''originally'' going to be a ''Prime'' toyline, but Hasbro changed their minds due to demand.<br /> :The reality, as usual, was much less apocalyptic. The statement from the Hasbro Studios panel was never intended to refer to anything except the panel itself—the people ''in that room'' weren't going to be discussing toys ''at that panel''. (In fact, [[Eric Siebenaler]] expressed excitement about [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'s toy at the very same panel.) As for the delay in the line's launch, put simply, this was for appearance's sake. Hasbro wanted to establish ''Prime'' as a strong ''fictional'' franchise, rather than merely [[To sell toys|a glorified toy commercial]], and reasonably concluded that launching a toyline immediately would detract from that goal. There ''was'' a point when a few ''Prime'' toys were planned to be released under the ''[[Transformers: Generations]]'' banner, but since ''Generations'' was at that time exclusively Deluxes, the aforementioned Bulkhead (a Voyager) indicates that this idea had already been abandoned when the rumors started.<br /> :In short, this is just a matter of fans jumping to conclusions based on misinterpreted statements.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The High Moon Studios games are part of G1.'''<br /> {{quote|We really did look very closely at Generation 1 stuff and tried to capture what for us was the essence of the characters.|[[Sean Miller]], Director Character and Animation|[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]}}<br /> :With its designs aiming at a video gamer audience who grew up with [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], the development team for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'' took a great deal of inspiration from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]] for such things as characters and the design aesthetic for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]&lt;/ref&gt; A [[Commercial#War for Cybertron|commercial]] even depicted Shockwave ordering Soundwave to play [[The Touch|a song]] made famous by the [[The Transformers: The Movie|original animated movie]]. Furthermore, War for Cybertron toys were sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline that featured Generation 1-styled characters. These factors led many to believe the game was actually part of Generation 1.<br /> <br /> :To be fair, there was and is virtually no information available to the average fan that ''War for Cybertron'' is not part of Generation 1. Hasbro has essentially been folding ''War for Cybertron'' into their modern continuity, and have been informing dedicated fans of this fact through [[Hasbro Q&amp;A|question and answer sessions]].&lt;ref&gt;&quot;The official story of the original 13 and specifically Alpha Trion has not been explored fully in the modern continuity that Transformers War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are a part of.&quot; [[Hasbro Q&amp;A/September 2010: Answers]]&lt;/ref&gt; The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|''War for Cybertron'' comic adaptation]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline] actually are adaptations from ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'', which is the basis for the new modern continuity fiction.<br /> <br /> :Canonically, both WfC and its sequel ''Fall of Cybertron'' are in the Aligned continuity, but beyond suggestions and mandatory changes from Hasbro, High Moon Studios doesn't seem to care about Hasbro's declarations of canon. In the art book for the sequel to WfC, ''[[The Art of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'', the only influences of the concept art and designs mentioned are G1 related. Dreamwave, the original cartoon, and other concepts and ideas from Generation 1 are cited, but the fact that Cliffjumper's head is based off of ''Prime'' Cliffjumper's is not mentioned, nor are the modifications to Optimus Prime's gun, Megatron's new body, [[Tox-En]], or the other assorted influences from Prime. <br /> <br /> :[[High Moon Studios]] has often described the games as prequels to the G1 cartoon. More savvy fans would recognize that the game is generally irreconcilable with the cartoon (or any other Generation 1 continuity for that matter): the circumstances of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s rise to power would contradict &quot;[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]&quot;, and Optimus's [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|predecessor]] does not possess the Matrix, unlike his [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#The Transformers cartoon|cartoon counterpart]]. The Autobots left Cybertron because the [[Core]] shut down, not because energy sources were depleted, and characters like [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]], [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbots]], and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] wouldn't be on Cybertron or even ''exist''. Additionally, the game draws inspiration from other continuities, including characters not from Generation 1 like [[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] and [[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]]. The game does share a lot of similarities with Dreamwave's ''[[War Within (franchise)|War Within]]'' series (where Jetfire and Trypticon are present), but it cannot take place in that continuity either.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Companies==<br /> ===Marvel Comics===<br /> *'''John Romita designed the Generation 1 character models.'''<br /> :The rumor here comes about through a misreading of the credits to ''[[The Transformers Universe]]''. Legendary Marvel Comics artist John Romita, Sr. was listed as &quot;Art Director&quot;, leading readers to assume that he was in charge of designing or developing the various [[character model]]s used in the series (and reprinted in said comic). However, Romita was actually the Art Director for Marvel Comics as a whole at the time. The majority of the character models were in fact done by [[Floro Dery]], who went uncredited.&lt;ref&gt;See [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/11/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-85/ Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed] for more information.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===TakaraTomy===<br /> *'''Takara was taken over by Tomy.'''<br /> :In 2005, it was announced that Takara, longtime Japanese manufacturer/distributor of Transformers toys, and former competitor Tomy would merge into a new company, named [[TakaraTomy]], as of [[March 1]], 2006. Some fans misinterpreted the media coverage, believing that Takara had been bought out by rival Tomy. This was not helped by official press releases declaring Tomy the &quot;surviving company&quot;, Tomy having the majority of shares, and the merged company simply going by the name &quot;Tomy&quot; outside Japan.<br /> :The name issue is easily explained, as it was done for purely pragmatic reasons. &quot;Tomy&quot; is an internationally established brand, since the company already had divisions in many other countries prior to the merger, and distributed their toys under their own name there. Takara, meanwhile, had mostly abandoned ventures into international markets years ago, and had its products distributed through other companies (such as [[Hasbro]]) instead. Therefore, the merged company decided to use the better-known name for its international business, while it would continue as &quot;TakaraTomy&quot; within Japan itself.<br /> :Now, as for the specifics of the merger... Although the merger ratio was set at 0.356 of a Tomy share for each Takara share (including a split of Tomy's stock), and the companies announced a layoff of 15% of their combined workforce mostly on the Takara side, the term &quot;merger&quot; (as compared to &quot;take-over&quot;) was prominently used in all the official announcements by the two companies, and twisting tiny details into a de facto &quot;takeover&quot; of Takara by Tomy is effectively splitting hairs.<br /> <br /> *'''e-Hobby is owned by Takara (TakaraTomy).'''<br /> :The [[e-HOBBY]] shop is owned by Part One, Ltd. Although the company has had close ties with Takara for decades, the online store also sells toys by other companies, primarily TakaraTomy's rival [[Bandai]].<br /> :The online store ''directly'' owned by TakaraTomy, meanwhile, is [[TakaraTomy Mall]] (formerly Toy Hobby Market).<br /> <br /> ===IDW Publishing===<br /> *'''Hasbro pays IDW to publish comics for them, and profit directly from the comics selling well.'''<br /> :Presumably stemming from the fact that most Transformers ''cartoons'' are commissioned by Hasbro in order to advertise their toys, a lot of fans are under the impression that Hasbro pays IDW Publishing and other licensees to produce ''Transformers'' comics for them. This is the exact opposite of how licensed comics work; IDW pays Hasbro for the privilege of publishing ''Transformers'' comics, and IDW keeps all the profits outside of that licensing fee. As such, Hasbro doesn't have any particular investment in the comics selling well, other than their indirect effects on toy sales and potential negative press caused by &quot;failing&quot; comics; all that matters to Hasbro is that they sell well enough that IDW keep paying for the license.<br /> <br /> *'''The [[Hasbro Universe]] was pushed on IDW by Hasbro.'''<br /> :While Hasbro is mostly hands-off with IDW's comics, one of the terms of the license is that IDW needs to work with Hasbro to do [[To sell toys|occasional promotion]] for new and upcoming toys; this most obviously took place with events such as [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]], [[Combiner Wars (comic)|Combiner Wars]] and [[Titans Return (comic)|Titans Return]] — and, if we're being honest, has resulted in some of the less popular arcs from &quot;phase 2&quot; of IDW.&lt;ref&gt;[[James Roberts]] has apologised on multiple occasions for Dark Cybertron, which says a lot.&lt;/ref&gt; As such, when IDW announced that they were bringing [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|several]] [[Rom|other]] [[Action Man|Hasbro-]][[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|owned]] [[Micronauts|franchises]] into their [[2005 IDW continuity|acclaimed Transformers universe]], a lot of fans assumed that this was the result of another Hasbro mandate, especially given their stated desire to have a &quot;Transformers {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe|Cinematic Universe}}.&quot; It also bore a startling resemblance to the shuttered plans to use the [[Aligned continuity family]] to launch a shared universe, even sharing the name of [[Unit:E]]. However, the creative teams involved were open from the start about the decision being an internal one that IDW had to ask Hasbro for permission to do.<br /> :Reportedly, the decision stemmed from IDW obtaining multiple additional Hasbro licenses, and [[Chris Ryall]] and [[Christos Gage]] suggesting that G.I. Joe appear in their ''ROM'' comic; this led to [[John Barber]] bringing up [[Andrew Griffith]]'s suggestion that IDW's ''G.I. Joe'' universe could fit &quot;between&quot; big ''Transformers'' events, which led to all of them suggesting to [[Cullen Bunn]] that the Earth that the [[Micronaut]]s visited be the ''ROM''/''Transformers''/''G.I. Joe'' one... and, well, it all spiralled from there. Hasbro were apparently very on board with the idea, but it was far from something that they pushed onto unwilling creators.<br /> <br /> *'''The Hasbro Universe comics are responsible for the ending of the 2005 IDW continuity.'''<br /> :Given that IDW announced that they were concluding their [[2005 IDW continuity|main continuity]] less than two years after the VERY controversial Hasbro Universe was first announced, a lot of fans were under the impression that the shared universe, and the relaunch of [[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|''The Transformers'']] and [[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|''More than Meets the Eye'']] into ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' and [[The Transformers: Lost Light|''Lost Light'']], were responsible for tanking sales to the point that IDW decided that it would be more profitable to reboot.<br /> :However, the reason that those titles were relaunched in the ''first'' place is that their sales were on an unsustainable downwards spiral; and, other than a brief sales spike for the [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|first]] [[New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|issues]] of the relaunched series, the relaunch did pretty much nothing to the sales trends, which continued to decrease at the same level as they had from around the 51st issues to the relaunch.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/670-general-comics-discussion/page-60#entry3661883 Sales chart of the Phase 2 IDW ongoings]&lt;/ref&gt; While the Hasbro Universe titles generally didn't sell ''great'', they didn't affect the sales of the ongoing ''Transformers'' series.<br /> <br /> *'''Chris Ryall was kicked out of IDW because he conspired to break Hasbro mandates.'''<br /> :He ''really'' wasn't, guys. In fact, he was [http://hasbrouniverse.libsyn.com/interview-chris-ryall outright surprised by the idea that this was a rumor going around].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist|2}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20121116134912/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 Ten popular but incorrect rumors about Japanese Transformers, retrieved November 16, 2012] (archived)<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Fandom]]<br /> [[Category:Lists]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers&diff=1598109 Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers 2022-03-14T01:47:59Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Transformers: Armada (2002) */</p> <hr /> <div>Over the years, many '''misconceptions and urban legends''' have sprung up within ''Transformers'' [[fandom]], often resulting from such factors as fuzzy childhood memories, inaccurate catalog illustrations, and mistranslations of foreign material.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==General misconceptions==<br /> *'''''Transformers'' is (only) a cartoon from the Eighties that was brought back into vogue with the 2007 movie.'''<br /> <br /> : A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that ''Transformers'' went away some time around 1986 (or 1987, or 1988—pick your year). People who stumbled across a newer incarnation of the ''Transformers'' franchise before 2007 commonly assumed that it had only recently popped back up as an attempt to cash in on '80s nostalgia. From 2007 onwards, people who were (obviously) aware of the [[live-action film series]] commonly believed that it was the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]] that brought the franchise back from limbo. Neither assumption is correct.<br /> <br /> :In fact, the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]] has been continuous since 1984 (there was a brief gap between 1990 and 1993 as far as the United States market was concerned, but the brand still continued with new products in other markets). It includes many [[Franchises|lines of toys, cartoons and comics]] that span almost four decades, with no sign of stopping, as Hasbro considers it a core brand. Each line has experienced varying degrees of success, rebooting when its target audience gets too old or uninterested in the toyline and fiction. <br /> <br /> :Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise long before its initial US cancellation (as it wasn't &quot;cool&quot; to be kiddy once puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that ''Transformers'' has sunk in popularity, quality and/or sales, since it's not what they remember. <br /> <br /> :It ''is'' true that ''Transformers'' hit a low point of popularity in the early 1990s, with the cancelation of Generation 1 and the unremarkable sales of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. But the successor ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' line re-established the brand for a new generation beginning in 1996, and ''Transformers'' has been a dominant toy franchise ever since. While it's true that the live-action movies caused a major hike in popularity for the brand, they didn't revive a long-forgotten franchise; rather, they merely turned a steadily successful toy series into a major worldwide multimedia phenomenon.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Generation 1 obviously has the best toys, cartoons and characters.'''<br /> <br /> :Casual fans likewise tend to assume automatically that the original 1980s iteration of ''Transformers'' is the best and most successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.<br /> <br /> :While it's hard to measure the overall success of every line in all its aspects, the original line has been surpassed in both quality and sales multiple times over (if not for warm-fuzzy nostalgia-feels in 80s kids). In factors such as realistic alternate forms, durability, articulation, action features, and complexity, various later toylines have all exceeded Generation 1. And while fiction can't be measured objectively, many fans will swear up and down by some of the later incarnations of ''Transformers''.<br /> <br /> :Arguably, ''Transformers'' is in an endless cycle of creating [[true fan|new fans who share new opinions on what is &quot;teh greatest&quot;]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SteamhammerEnergonUniverse.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Not literally a waste of packaging material.]]<br /> *'''&quot;Repackaged&quot; toys are ''literally'' unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of the old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to stores.'''<br /> <br /> :Every so often, a ''Transformers'' toy line features seemingly identical toys in multiple different [[packaging]] versions, such as multi-packs containing toys that were previously available separately. In addition, some toy lines also feature [[rebranding|rebranded]] items, namely toys that were originally released under one line, but are later re-released as part of another line with virtually no changes to the toy itself, only the packaging it is available in. The final stages of the original ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line took the concept of &quot;rebranding&quot; to a new level, featuring numerous straight re-releases of toys from the since-ended ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' lines, among many others. Since then, it has been repeated with the 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' line, the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, the 2010 ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' line and many others. Because a common [[fandom]] term for those releases is &quot;repackages&quot;, a popular misconception claims that those toys are ''literally'' &quot;repackages&quot;: namely, unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of their old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to (different) stores. (The same train of thought also—very rarely—suggests that &quot;repaints&quot;, another common fan term for [[redeco]]s, are ''literally'' &quot;[[repaint]]s&quot;, i.e. existing toys painted over in new colors, rather than new production runs from the same toolings using new plastic colors.)<br /> <br /> :Needless to say, this theory is dubious for various reasons. Generally, old unsold toys are ''not'' sent back to Hasbro. They either [[Shelfwarmer|remain in the store]] until someone finally decides to buy them, or the store somehow dumps them, such as by selling them off to closeout chains. And even ''if'' Hasbro did regularly get sent back huge shipments of unsold toys, they'd be highly unlikely to go through the effort (and additional cost) of literally repackaging them. Hasbro confirmed this in January of 2009, stating that due to the toys being manufactured in Asia, it would be a waste of time and money to repackage them only to sell them at the same price-point.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&amp;p2_articleid=1934 SirStevesGuide.com, Tri-Weekly Hasbro Q&amp;A - January 30th]&lt;/ref&gt; Thus, they are ''not'' repackaged old product, but new production runs of previous product. These days, this misconception should be much easier to dispel: Every toy now features a manufacturing date stamp etched into the figure, as well as a product code [[tampograph]]ed onto the figure, thus proving that a figure was manufactured more recently than its superficially identical predecessor.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:SmokesniperStarscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|The similarities are astounding. Especially those that aren't there.]]<br /> *'''A new toy that is vaguely reminiscent of an older toy is a retool of said toy.'''<br /> <br /> :Hasbro likes to [[redeco]] toys a lot (usually to recoup the R&amp;D costs for developing the original [[mold]]). They also like to release redecos of toys from older lines in newer lines. In some instances, Hasbro also don't just redeco a toy, they [[retool]] it (or create new toolings for new parts that replace parts of the old version of the toy)—sometimes to improve a feature or fix an error, but sometimes also to give the toy new features or [[gimmick]]s, or simply to make it different enough from the original version so owners of the original version would be interested in buying the &quot;retool&quot; as well.<br /> <br /> :Some of those retools are comparably minor (such as [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] from the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]]), whereas others can be pretty elaborate. Sometimes the retools are so elaborate that the line between &quot;retool&quot; and &quot;new [[mold]]&quot; gets blurred. The most drastic instances in this regard would be [[K-9]] from ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' (based on [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] from the same line) and [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]] from ''Cybertron'' (based on the original ''Cybertron'' Crumplezone toy), both of which have most, if not ''all'' of their parts entirely retooled. Another borderline case would be the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con]]s [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], which were released around the same time and are based on the same basic design, share a similar body structure and have very similar [[alternate mode]]s.<br /> <br /> :However, sometimes fans ''definitely'' get too far decrying a new toy a &quot;retool&quot; (or &quot;remold&quot;). Toys that share some superficial design similarities, coupled with similar transformation schemes, are often mistaken for retools even though they're simply that: Similar toys based on the same general design, maybe even directly influenced by the older toy, but nothing more. For more examples, see: [[retool#Not actually a retool|retool]].<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''Hasbro is responsible for your local store not having the newest toys right now.'''<br /> <br /> : Hasbro actually has almost nothing to do with distribution (when Product A arrives in Store B) beyond making sure the manufactured product leaves the factories and shipyards of China at the desired time. Once the items arrive on US shores, they are almost immediately sent from the ships to the distribution centers for the retail chains that ordered them. From there, it's more truck rides to various regional warehouses, which is all controlled by the retailers, not Hasbro. After that, the schedule for taking product from those warehouses and putting it on shelves is dictated by each chain's inventory system.<br /> <br /> : It's ''conceivable'' that Hasbro could take more control of the situation, but that would require chains like Wal-Mart to release the vise-like death grip they have on manufacturers' nuts that lets them dictate how the system works—and they're sooooooo not doing that.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Older collectors}}<br /> *'''Hasbro should totally cater to the wishes of older collectors, as they purchase the most ''Transformers'' product.'''<br /> <br /> : Fans would like to think they've got some sway over the direction of the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. After all, they've been buying toys for many years (as opposed to the limited purchasing span of most children), and they buy many ''more'' toys than any individual child. And in truth, Hasbro does pay attention to the desires and discussions of its older buyers, even designing certain line segments like ''Alternators'' or ''Classics'' and its successors with collectors as the primary target audience.<br /> <br /> : Collectors, however, simply can't compare to the vast numbers of children out there whose parents buy [[Transformer]]s for them. The bulk of ''Transformers'' product is purchased for and/or by young children, and if a company like Hasbro wants to stay in business and keep making money (and by extension, more toys), it must design and market its products accordingly. No accurate figures exist on the collector/children ratio, but estimates mentioned at BotCon panels range from around 10% to 20% of all purchases coming from older collectors—enough to be worth listening to, but not at all the driving force behind the brand. Past toylines have shown that betting ''too much'' on sales from adult collectors can be disastrous.<br /> <br /> : Furthermore, it's not as though the [[fandom|fans]] speak with a unified voice. More often, for every fan pushing for one particular idea, there's another fan who thinks that same idea is boring or [[Ruined FOREVER|awful]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Takara vs. Hasbro===<br /> [[File:Cybertrontoy hasbro and takara vector primes.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Vector Prime]] features different color applications dependent on whether it was released in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] or [[Hasbro]]'s market.]]<br /> *'''Takara (alternatively, Hasbro) are ''solely'' responsible for designing, developing and manufacturing (all, or certain specific) ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> <br /> : This was true only for the original [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toys]], and possibly also the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toys]]. Most of the toys from 1984 to 1986 were imported (and, occasionally, slightly altered) versions of already-existing Japanese toys originally designed and released by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]. Following that, Takara developed new toys both for the Japanese and the Western market, now specifically with ''Transformers'' in mind. The primary exceptions are a handful of toys licensed from other Japanese companies (Jetfire, Whirl, and Roadbuster, for example), and the 1986 toys for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]], which were mostly based on designs by [[Floro Dery]].<br /> <br /> : However, ever since 1988,&lt;ref name=&quot;dunsay&quot;&gt;[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/images/full/BC04Dunsay.jpg BotCon 2004 program guide interview with George Dunsay]&lt;/ref&gt; most &quot;main&quot; line toys released both in Japan and the Western hemisphere (such as the [[Unicron Trilogy]], ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'', the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]] and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]/[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'') have been designed and developed in cooperation between [[Hasbro]] (or its subsidiary [[Kenner]]) and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] (now TakaraTomy). (For the specifics of this joint venture development process, see the article about [[toy]]s.)<br /> <br /> : Still, numerous reasons have led some people to assume incorrectly that ''all'' ''Transformers'' toy lines were ''solely'' developed by only one of the two companies:<br /> <br /> :*The Western public and mainstream media, naturally, tend to be unaware of the existence of Takara (TakaraTomy these days). It's therefore logical to assume that Hasbro, the company responsible for distributing Transformers toys outside Japan, is also solely responsible for developing and manufacturing the toys. The fact that Hasbro regularly chooses not to mention their Japanese business partner in official press releases and interviews hasn't exactly helped matters, either.<br /> <br /> :*On the other hand, Western anime fans are used to Japanese companies being solely responsible for designing robot toys, which are then imported and sold by Western companies. For lack of better knowledge, those people then simply assume the same also applies to ''Transformers'' toys — namely, that Takara does ''all'' the design and engineering work on their own, and Hasbro is merely the Western ''distributor'' of those toys. The fact that the back of Hasbro's packaging for ''Transformers'' toys sports a small note saying &quot;Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd.&quot; (changed to &quot;TOMY Company, Ltd.&quot; on more recent toys) is occasionally cited as &quot;proof&quot; that Takara is the sole manufacturer of ''Transformers'' toys as well. A long paper trail of evidence to the contrary&lt;ref name=&quot;Hasbro Tour&quot;&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=70&amp;size=0&amp;start=272 Exemplary rundown] of the development process of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], shown during the Hasbro tour at [[BotCon 2007]]. Of course, Hasbro just replaced the name &quot;Takara&quot; in some of the steps with &quot;Hasbro&quot; in order to convince fans that... yeah, riiiight.&lt;/ref&gt; has not been able to convince those people of the flaws in their conspiracy theory — rather, some of them have even postulated the existence of a so-called &quot;Hasbro PR machine&quot;, whose sole purpose is to convince ''Transformers'' fans that Hasbro has a larger part in the development of ''Transformers'' toys than is actually the case.&lt;ref name=&quot;Propaganda&quot;&gt;[http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,88668 ToyBoxDX thread with anime fanboys arguing that &quot;Takara is an enormous toy '''manufacturing''' company. Hasbro doesn't manufacturer anything. The sole reason for its existence is for marketing the products of their partners and wholly-owned subs. Just to be clear here - Takara is bigger than Hasbro.&quot;] They wouldn't even believe that [[Joe Kyde]] actually worked at Hasbro. No kidding.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : That being said, there ''are'' indeed a few toys originally developed by either Hasbro or Takara without the other one's involvement, and then later picked up by the other company, but they're fewer than usually assumed: For Takara, those include the new molds for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1998 (Beast Wars II)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1999 (Beast Wars Neo)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'', plus various mostly short-lived, collector-aimed, niche market lines (such as the new ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' molds, the ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'', the ''[[Hybrid Style]]'' toys etc.); for Hasbro, those are mostly either toys originally based on fiction-based franchises that did not originate with Hasbro (such as ''[[Animorphs]]'' or the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars Transformers]]'' and their later successor, ''[[Transformers: Crossovers]]''), cross-brand lines ''within'' Hasbro where the Transformers toys only make up one part of the overall lineup (such as the [[Titanium Series]] and the [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) and a few very rare &quot;main&quot; line Transformers toys such as the ''Generation 2'' [[Power Master]]s and [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]], [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], [[Alpha Quintesson]], [[Kicker Jones#Toys|Energon Kicker]] and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''.<br /> <br /> *'''Takara's Japanese-market releases are always of intrinsically better quality than their U.S. counterparts. (E.g., they have sweeter exclusives, and are always more show-accurate, have more accessories, and have tighter quality control.)'''<br /> <br /> : This one depends a bit on the speaker, as it can either be a genuine misconception, a matter of opinion, or at worst, [[Personal canon|willful]] [[True fan|snobbery]]. But, like any broad generalization, it does have some basis.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Better quality&quot; can refer to the fact that Japanese versions of individual toys sometimes have clear plastic instead of painted-on windows like [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Movie Bumblebee]], or have vac-metallized parts where the equivalent U.S. release doesn't, like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Energon'' Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy]]. Or, &quot;better&quot; quality can refer to the fact that Japan is a less litigious society, with different toy safety laws, and Takara can thus give [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Prime]] toys old-school long smokestacks, which are now shortened in the U.S. [[for safety reasons]]. These laws also mean that [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Megatron]] is freely available in Japan, but hard to get in the U.S. (the exact opposite of ''real'' handguns, ironically). In the various forms of [[CHUG]], Takara releases also consistently boast more paint applications (for example, many ''[[Unite Warriors]]'' figures had painted hubcaps while their ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' counterparts went without), something that was ironically reversed in their version of the [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Takara Prime toyline|''Prime'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] decos&quot; does have some basis, as Takara frequently releases its toys later than Hasbro does Stateside, and thus they are better able to reflect discrepancies between late-run changes to a character's coloration in a show (such as with the original [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] or [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|''Armada'''s Tidal Wave]]). The most extreme example of this was ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)#2005 (Beast Wars Returns)|Beast Wars Returns]]'', the Japanese release of ''Beast Machines'', which was ''years'' later than in the U.S., allowing Takara to add a lot of the deco that was added to the characters by [[Mainframe Entertainment]] that was not accurate to the original toys.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More accessories&quot; mostly comes from the fact that ''some'' of Takara's releases have some extra accessories, but the only cases of this before the reissues were [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s two [[sword]]s, Megatron's sword and bullets (even though the Japanese release lacked the barrel, scope and stock extensions) and clear cases from the various cassettes. Japanese reissues have included additional accessories from the cartoon (the axe, chain mace, Energon cubes and gun mode Megatron in the ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' reissues of Optimus and Megatron, Insecticons and Starscream, respectively, the Matrix from New Year's Convoy). Some ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Super Link]]'' releases came with [[redeco]]ed [[Energon weapon]]s as well. ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Hot Shot (G1)|Hot Rod]] came with two missile launchers and missiles not included with ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Universe .282008.29|Hot Shot]] due to budget constraints, and featured the original tooling for the rear bumper for their inclusion. In contrast, ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Lambor]] was ''lacking'' the supercharger engine accessory ''Universe'' Sideswipe came with—TakaraTomy officially confirmed that they had ''deliberately omitted the accessory'' to make the toy more &quot;G1-accurate&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;generations2009&quot;&gt;Interview with Hisashi Yuki in [[Transformers Generations 2009|''Transformers Generations 2009'' vol. 1]], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/223379-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-2009-vol-1-translation.html English translation] at TFW2005.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Sweeter exclusives&quot; is really a matter of taste. If endless redecos of Generation 1 toys as completely unprecedented Generation 1 characters, buying $40 worth of toys you got a month ago for a single [[Mini-Con]], and shelling out half your mortgage for [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] gold chrome figures is what floats your boat, then yeah, Japan has better exclusives.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Tighter [[quality control]]&quot; is a total myth. Takara products are manufactured under much the same production conditions as Hasbro's: Pretty much everything for both markets is made in China—in fact, according to Hasbro [[Australia]] representatives and Hasbro designer [[Eric Siebenaler]], ''all'' of the Transformers toys jointly developed between Hasbro and Takara/TakaraTomy are manufactured at factories contracted to the Japanese toy company. This means Takara is (at least indirectly) responsible for whatever quality control problems occur with Hasbro-released toys. Takara's standards of quality control for their domestically-released toys are just as likely to let mistakes creep through. Just ask any buyer of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Thundercracker]] how well his weapons stay attached to the arms. And let's not even get started on ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Convoy's]] first production run.<br /> <br /> :*The fields in which Takara genuinely excels Hasbro are comparably minor: Takara's [[stock photography]] generally tends to be more impressive than Hasbro's, without obvious mistransformations and awkward poses, and at the same time looks more representative of the actual toy due to less reliance on blatant digital touch-ups. Likewise, Takara's [[instructions]] tend to be more detailed and useful than Hasbro's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Hasbro lost the rights to a lot of G1 Transformers names. That is why you see toys named &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot; or &quot;Decepticon Brawl&quot; these days. Takara is more competent than Hasbro and doesn't need to change their toys' names.'''<br /> <br /> :That's not quite how name rights —aka [[trademark]]— work. There are indeed instances where another company has snatched a trademark, making it unavailable for Hasbro's use. The reason is because trademarks need to be consistently used in commerce (roughly once every year or so), or it could be considered &quot;abandoned&quot;, making it open for grabs should another company try to claim it. &quot;[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]]&quot; was unavailable to [[Hasbro]] because Mattel held several similar trademarks, &quot;[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]&quot; was too similar to Gendron's &quot;Toledo 'Blue Streak'&quot; trademark, and a company named Lanard held the trademark &quot;Shockwave&quot; until 2005. This prompted Hasbro to use substitute names for toys based on these characters, such as &quot;Rodimus Major&quot; and &quot;Rodimus&quot; for Hot Rod, &quot;Silverstreak&quot; for Bluestreak and &quot;Shockblast&quot; for Shockwave (Hasbro has since managed to reacquire all three aforementioned trademarks).<br /> <br /> :Meanwhile, the names with prefixes such as &quot;Autobot&quot; or &quot;Decepticon&quot;? Those are usually non-compound single real words from the English language. Hasbro's legal department considers them too &quot;generic&quot; to be easily defensible as trademarks, hence the addition of prefixes such as &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot;, &quot;Decepticon Brawl &quot;or &quot;Constructicon Devastator&quot; for better protection. This does ''not'' work with names already trademarked by another company–otherwise, [[Bandai]] could release a toy named &quot;Gunpla Optimus Prime&quot; tomorrow, and Hasbro couldn't do anything about it.<br /> <br /> :For a while, it seemed like these trademark quibbles were limited to Hasbro, and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] was somehow exempt due to a different market situation. However, the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' line saw the emergence of quite a few &quot;Cybertron&quot;, &quot;Destron&quot; and &quot;[[Stunticon (G1)|Stuntron]]&quot; prefixes, implying that the trademark situation on the Japanese market was changing, and starting with the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|''Movie'' line]], TakaraTomy (now adopting Hasbro names instead of their established Japanese-market names) began to use &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; prefixes. With ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Transformers United|United]]'', TakaraTomy even used prefixes for names Hasbro has been able to use ''without'' prefixes.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Generation 1 Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''A super-rare blue variant of Bluestreak was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:G1 Bluestreak boxart.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|You had this as a kid. The picture, that is. Not the toy.]]<br /> :The very earliest [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] toy [[catalog]]s used a photo of a blue-sided ''[[Diaclone]]'' Fairlady Z to represent [[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]; photographs of the same toy were used for Bluestreak's own [[Instructions|instruction booklet]]. The same blue-sided color scheme was also used on his [[Package art|box art]]; which was in turn shown on ''every'' 1984 instruction booklet as a sample tech spec.<br /> :All this gave rise to a long-standing myth that a blue Bluestreak toy was sold under the ''Transformers'' brand during Generation 1, with some people going so far as to &quot;remember&quot; owning blue Bluestreaks as children, or at least knowing someone else who did. Adding to the confusion, ''{{w|ToyFare}}'' magazine had a long history of listing the supposed blue Bluestreak as a &quot;foreign [[variant]]&quot; in its monthly price guide.<br /> :However, actual samples of a blue-sided Bluestreak in a sealed ''Transformers'' box have ''never'' appeared, and the [[Karl Hartman|collectors who have been at it since the very beginning]] and [[Jon Hartman|amassed ''insane'' numbers of rare Transformers]] have never seen one.<br /> : Oddly enough, numerous other Transformers toys from that era were depicted in both catalogues and packaging art with colors they were never released in —[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], for example— yet Bluestreak is the only one to be (mis)remembered in this manner, perhaps because his name is ''Blue''streak, so he had to have been blue, right?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some Generation 1 toy molds were in use as long ago as 1974.'''<br /> :Some ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]''-derived toys have the text &quot;©1974 TAKARA&quot; stamped on them, and as a result are occasionally sold on eBay with descriptions such as &quot;original 1974 [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&quot;. However, the date 1974 refers to the introduction of the original ''[[Microman]]'' franchise due to the way Japanese IP law worked at the time; the first ''Microchange'' toys weren't even designed until the early 1980s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost.'''<br /> :Both the ''[[The Transformers Collection]]'' and ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] releases have different tape buttons and hinges than the ones found on the vintage Hasbro release. While the vintage Hasbro Soundwave had inset controls and an internal tape deck hinge, the Takara reissues have a large button block that serves as a pivot point for an external tape deck hinge. The supposed reason for this is the mold for the original versions of the buttons and door are lost or worn out, so a new single tape door was made to work with the Soundblaster mold.<br /> :In fact, the buttons and hinge used on the reissue Soundwaves were originally a [[retool]]ed running change [[variant]] of Takara's original 1985 release of Soundwave. The further Soundblaster retool was based on the later Japanese version of Soundwave, as were the reissues. Presumably, the original mold in its original condition ''is'' lost - but this happened ''long'' before Takara retooled Soundwave into Soundblaster.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Jetfire-Dutch.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Oddly enough, Optimus Prime can still be seen in the background.]]<br /> *'''Optimus Prime's toy was originally not released in Europe due to a trademark conflict.'''<br /> <br /> :When Hasbro subsidiary [[Milton Bradley]] launched the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|''Transformers'' line]] on the European continent in 1985, many prominent characters were missing, among them [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Optimus Prime]]. Bizarrely, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was branded as the Autobot leader, and depicted as such in [[In the Transformers|a pack-in mini-comic]]. Furthermore, Dutch publisher [[Junior Press]] initially renamed Optimus Prime into &quot;Jetfire&quot; for all his appearances in their translated versions of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comic]]. Optimus Prime's toy was eventually released with the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'', and the Junior Press comics subsequently referred to him by his correct name.<br /> <br /> :The reason for Optimus Prime's initial omission from the MB line-up was claimed to be due to a [[trademark]] conflict with Swedish kitchen utensil manufacturer &quot;[http://www.optimusstoves.com/ Optimus]&quot;. Though initially accepted by the fandom, this claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny. A manufacturer of kitchen utensils ''usually'' does not operate in the &quot;toys&quot; field, thus making a trademark conflict unlikely to begin with. An editor's note in the Junior Press comic trying to explain the &quot;Optimus&quot;/&quot;Jetfire&quot; name situation claimed that the ''Transformers'' were originally ''two'' toy lines by different manufacturers in the United States, and MB had only released ''one'' of them in the Netherlands, while the &quot;[[copyright]]&quot; to the name &quot;Optimus Prime&quot; belonged to the other manufacturer. Which is of course horsehockey. Many years later, this editor's note (including the incorrect use of the term &quot;copyright&quot; rather than &quot;trademark&quot;) was cited by a Dutch fan who added his own speculation (without marking it as such), thus spawning the urban myth that was subsequently accepted by the fandom.&lt;ref name=&quot;optimusdutch&quot;&gt;[http://www.fredsworkshop.com/veuro2.html The origin (?) of the &quot;Optimus trademark conflict in Europe&quot; rumor?] at The Complete Transformers Variants Page&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation lies in that French company [[Joustra]] released their own version of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' line in many of the same markets as Milton Bradley's ''Transformers''. The theory suggests that because of Joustra's exclusive contract with [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], any toys from their ''Diaclone'' line-up were initially off-limits for Milton Bradley's ''Transformers'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofive&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-5/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 5&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt; A related theory suggests that Joustra's parent company, Ceji, got into financial trouble at the time, prompting them to sign a deal with Milton Bradley allowing them to use their existing (but still unsold) ''Diaclone'' stock released in ''Transformers'' packaging, which could explain why the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'' matches up almost perfectly with Joustra's ''Diaclone'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofour&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-4/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 4&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The Generation 1 Seacon Overbite was released under the name &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; in some European markets.'''<br /> [[File:JawbreakerComic.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|UK comic exclusive name variant!]]<br /> :In [[Enemy Action!|issue 152]] of the Marvel UK comics, the first appearance of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] is called &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;, a name repeated in his appearance in [[Salvage!|issue 160]] and in an &quot;A to Z&quot; profile in &quot;[[Transformers Annual 1989]]&quot;. In the early days of online fandom, American fans concluded that this must mean that the toy had been released under a different name in Europe—which is not ''entirely'' unfounded, as Transformers often got renamed in Canada and Italy, and many European-market toys from the post-US-cancellation line had multiple names, dependent on what country they were released in.<br /> :However, European fans claimed the toy was called &quot;Overbite&quot; when released in their respective countries (except for Italy, where [[GiG]] actually didn't release the Seacons ''at all''). Furthermore, the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] in [[City of Fear!|issue #164]] of the UK comic features a question by a confused (British) reader about the &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; name, since the UK-release toy was apparently indeed called &quot;Overbite&quot; (resulting in a made-up-on-the-spot explanation from the Marvel staff to reconcile both names). Adding to the confusion was the letters page in [[A Savage Circle|issue #327]] from late 1991, which stated that Jawbreaker was his British name and Overbite his American name. By this time the toy was no longer on sale and the character had long disappeared from the comic. Apparently whoever answered letters at this point was not well-informed.<br /> :So, why ''did'' the story identify the character as &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;? The answer was unknown until 2016, when a couple of early internal [[character model|model sheets]] were offered on [[eBay]]: Overbite's model sheet has his name crossed out, with &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; written below it.&lt;ref name=&quot;modelsheets&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/93711-more-unseen-tftm-designs-plus-some-early-colors-and-some-show-design/?p=3191211 Early model sheets] at The Allspark.&lt;/ref&gt; Since the same batch of model sheets also refers to the [[Sparkabot]]s as &quot;Sparkler Minibots&quot;, another naming anomaly for the Marvel UK comics (and some translations thereof), Marvel UK writer [[Simon Furman]] may have used these model sheets (or similar reference materials) with the non-final names on them. The Overbite toy's instructions still refer to his ''weapon'' as a &quot;Jawbreaker cannon&quot;, and his weapon mode for Piranacon is called a &quot;Jawbreaker weapon&quot; in the assembly instructions.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available only in the United Kingdom/Netherlands.'''<br /> :During the early days of the Transformers online fandom, most of the active European fans in English-language forums were based in the UK and Netherlands. So when information about non-US toys (or toy variants) was spread, there simply were no fans from Germany or France around to confirm that the toys in question had also been officially available in their respective countries. (Although to be fair, it's quite possible that some toys, such as the [[Milton Bradley]]-branded Generation 1 toys, were indeed released in bigger quantities in the Netherlands than in Germany or France.)&lt;ref name=&quot;mbpart6&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-6/ &quot;MB Transformers: Part 6&quot;] at 20th Century Toy Collector.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :As a result, numerous toys like the red [[Tracks (G1)#Toys|Tracks]] and [[IGA]] Mexican-market Transformers (imported under dubious circumstances) got labeled as &quot;Netherlands-only&quot;, when they actually saw release in at least a half-dozen countries. Meanwhile, post-US-cancellation Transformers like the [[Action Master Elite]]s, &quot;[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]&quot; reissues, [[Turbomaster]]s, [[Obliterator]]s, etc, were (and sometimes still are) often referred to as &quot;UK exclusives&quot;, even though all of them were available in multiple countries, including Canada and Australia!<br /> :In reality, there are ''very'' few toys actually exclusive to a single European country. The first ''genuine'' &quot;UK exclusives&quot; were a set of multi-packs from the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live action movie]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toyline]], but the toys themselves were identical to the US releases. Meanwhile, other multi-packs or minor variants of toys from the 2007 movie toyline that were available in the UK but not the US were also available in other places, such as Japan, Hong Kong, Australia or other European countries again.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''A green variant of Trailbreaker was available in some European countries.'''<br /> :This belief seems to stem from the fact that [[IGA]]'s Mexican version of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (which, like most Mexican Transformers, was widely available on the European gray market circa 1989, as mentioned above) used the same head sculpt as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. But like the &quot;Blue&quot; Bluestreak, no samples of an actual green version of the Trailbreaker mold actually sold ''as'' &quot;Trailbreaker&quot; have been found.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====''Generation 2''====<br /> *'''The ''Generation 2'' Autobot and Decepticon insignias were originally created by Hasbro UK, whose license for using the original faction insignias owned by Hasbro US had expired.'''<br /> :The first half is ''maybe'' true, the second half certainly isn't. Long story short: While the new Autobot and Decepticon faction [[insignia]]s were popularized by the ''Generation 2'' line, said line didn't start in Europe until 1994, a year later than in the US. Instead, the ''Transformers'' brand had continued in Europe even after its cancellation in the United States in 1990 (see the page for the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]] for more details), and new European-&quot;exclusive&quot; figures were still being released in 1993, many of which were later re-released in [[rebranding|rebranded]] ''Generation 2'' packaging in Europe in 1994, while some of them were also made available (including some color, name and faction changes) under the ''Generation 2'' line in the United States in 1993. It was those designed-for-Europe 1993 pre-''Generation 2'' figures that had first featured the new Autobot and Decepticon insignias on their packaging, and a popular myth claims that they had become a necessity for the European market due to Hasbro UK and Hasbro US being legally considered distinct entities under international law, and Hasbro UK alternatively didn't want to continue paying their parent company the fee for being allowed to use these symbols, or the license for using them had expired.&lt;ref name=&quot;euhist&quot;&gt;[https://tfarchive.com/fandom/features/thirtieth-anniversary/?s=countdown-04-european-history &quot;European History&quot;] at The Transformers Archive.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The holes in this theory are legion: First of all, considering the trademark for the name &quot;The Transformers&quot; was registered with the UK Patent Office by Hasbro UK back in 1986, shouldn't the same also apply to the faction insignias? Therefore, how could Hasbro US, assuming it was indeed a distinct entity, enforce trademarks it hadn't registered in the UK? Why exactly would the UK Patent Office be enforcing the trademarks of a (supposedly) foreign company that didn't do business in the UK? In fact, why would ''anyone'' be enforcing trademark claims against Hasbro UK on behalf of Hasbro US? And why would this affect only the faction insignias? Wouldn't the names &quot;Transformers&quot;, &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; be equally subject to those alleged licensing fees?<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation is that the faction insignias were changed for the same reason the &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo was changed to a new version (both in the US and Europe) in 1989, along with a major redesign of the toys' packaging, and why there had been another change to the packaging design and &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo for the European releases in 1992: To &quot;refresh&quot; the overall presentation of the brand, making everyhing look &quot;new&quot; and different for marketing reasons. Now whether the new insignias were originally created by Hasbro US for the ''Generation 2'' line and were simply applied to the European 1993 toys first for the sake of consistency, or whether they had indeed been created by Hasbro UK and Hasbro US just liked them so much they decided to adopt them for the ''Generation 2'' line is up for debate.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====''Alternators''====<br /> *'''A yellow version of ''Alternators'' Tracks was released to North American stores (but then recalled by Hasbro).'''<br /> <br /> [[File:YellowTracks.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|Only in Japan, baby.]]<br /> :When [[Hasbro]] (and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) originally announced the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] in 2004, the toy's [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode's]] primary color was yellow. This caused the ire of a significant portion of the fandom, which insisted that the toy had to be ''blue'', like its [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] predecessor.<br /> :Hasbro eventually confirmed at [[OTFCC 2004]] that the initial idea had been to release the toy in yellow first, and then later as a running change [[variant]] in blue, like Takara would ultimately do. However, Hasbro had encountered problems at the test shot stage, where it became evident that some of the toy's innards were shining through the yellow plastic. As a result, plans for a release of the yellow version were scrapped, and it was decided to release the blue version from the get-go.<br /> :Rumors started circulating that some stores (usually [[Walmart]]) had indeed received a shipment of the toy, but were then asked by Hasbro to send back the entire batch. Naturally, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up these claims. And while toys may occasionally be recalled [[for safety reasons]], it's highly doubtful that &quot;aesthetics&quot; would be enough of a reason to warrant an expensive product recall.<br /> :The only &quot;packaged&quot; versions of a yellow ''Alternators'' Tracks we ever got to see were internet pranks of the &quot;yellow ''Binaltech'' Tracks in photoshopped Hasbro box&quot; variety. Which, of course, didn't help matters at all.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:WindchargerOverdrive.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Castrated at the request of Honda.]]<br /> *'''Hasbro omitted ''Alternators'' Windcharger's gun barrel for safety reasons.'''<br /> <br /> : When the first stolen [[Prototype|test shots]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Windcharger (G1)#Alternators|Windcharger]] surfaced in 2004, the toy sported an extraordinarily long gun barrel (which doubled as the [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]'s drive shaft). The toy was ultimately released without the barrel, which was not shown or mentioned anywhere on the packaging or in the instructions. Indeed, Windcharger's weapon accessory was officially identified as a &quot;shield&quot; on the back of the packaging (in addition to the actual, ragtop roof shield). [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], on the other hand, later released their own ''Binaltech'' version of the toy (named [[Overdrive]]) with the full barrel, prominently shown in the official promotional photos.<br /> <br /> :The initial fan theory upon seeing the barrel-less toy was that Hasbro had gutted it for safety reasons, under the notion that the long barrel might pose a choking hazard. Even though this was refuted by actual experts on toy safety standards, the rumor still persisted. An official response from Hasbro's customer service department to an e-mail inquiry (published on a fan site's message board) confirmed that the reason for the barrel's omission was &quot;so the accessory would not look like a weapon&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Windcharger gun barrel&quot;&gt;&quot;http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=13088 Response from Hasbro's customer service department regarding the lack of Alternators Windcharger's gun barrel.&lt;/ref&gt; Eventually, Hasbro (in the presence of Takara representatives) would confirm the full story at [[BotCon 2005]]: It had indeed been Honda, specifically their North American branch, that had asked to remove the gun barrel and all references to &quot;weapons&quot; from the toy, its packaging and included paperwork. Honda's Japanese department, on the other hand, had no such concerns, which is why Takara were able to release the ''Binaltech'' version with the barrel intact.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Masterpiece''====<br /> *'''''Masterpiece'' Convoy 1.0 has more diecast parts than 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime/''Masterpiece'' Convoy is made almost entirely out of diecast/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime is made entirely out of plastic.'''<br /> :This misconception was started by now defunct Hong Kong-based online retailer Action-HQ&lt;ref name=&quot;plasticahq&quot;&gt;[http://tformers.com/transformers-20th-anniversary-optimus-prime-plastic/2150/news.html &quot;20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Plastic?&quot;], November 2003.&lt;/ref&gt; and ''might'' have been extrapolated from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' toys, which are made entirely out of plastic (except for the rubber tires) for their Hasbro releases, whereas their Japanese ''Binaltech'' counterparts feature a few parts made out of [[die-cast|die-cast metal]].<br /> :In fact, however, the amount of die-cast metal parts versus injection-[[mold]]ed plastic parts is the same between 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and his Japanese ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Convoy counterpart. The only differences between the two toys (not counting the packaging) are the shortened smokestacks for Hasbro's 20th Prime and the addition of painted battle damage that is missing from the Takara version.<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Collection''====<br /> [[File:G1 Vol.1 Issue2 1.jpg|thumb|upright=0.55|A solicitation of then upcoming Takara reissues? Not really.]]<br /> *'''Takara's ''Transformers Collection'' had something to do with Dreamwave.'''<br /> :In 2002, Takara launched their series of [[Generation 1 reissues]] named ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'', also commonly referred to as &quot;bookbox reissues&quot; or even &quot;Dreamwave reissues&quot; among fans. The reason for that is simple: The [[package art]], especially for early releases such as [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Meister]] or [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]], was directly taken from the covers of and promotional posters for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave's]] first ''[[Prime Directive|Generation One]]'' mini-series drawn by [[Pat Lee]]. A common misconception among fans at that time was that Takara was coordinating their reissues with Dreamwave. Some even tried to predict upcoming reissues based on the existing Dreamwave covers. Yet [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys|Sunstreaker]] never materialized.<br /> <br /> :In fact, probably the main reason why Takara recycled Pat's Dreamwave artwork of those characters for the [[packaging]] of their reissues was its coincidental availability: The artwork had already been created and paid for, so why commission new art when they could just use what already exists? Furthermore, only about half of the TFC reissues actually sported &quot;Dreamwave&quot; package art, whereas the rest ''did'' use newly-commissioned art drawn by Japanese artist [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who has never in his life worked for Dreamwave and had been drawing in this style long before Pat Lee rose to his brief &quot;superstar artist&quot; fame.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Generations''====<br /> *'''The &quot;Generation 1&quot; characters featured in ''[[Studio Series]]'' are branded under the &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; subline.'''<br /> :This myth originates from leaked Walmart listings appending &quot;86&quot; to the end of the toyline's name, which led to the misunderstanding that the ''The Transformers: The Movie'' characters sold in ''Studio Series'' are branded differently from the rest of the line (an unaware editor on {{SITENAME_SHORT}} may have helped propagate this misconception).<br /> <br /> :Aside from having the &quot;86&quot; prefix on their ID numbers, the ''Studio Series'' G1 characters are branded exactly the same as the live-action film characters sold alongside them. However, the term &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; has stuck around as [[fandom]] terminology for those wanting to distinguish between the two continuities sold within the same toyline.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''The Transformers cartoon''====<br /> *'''The original ''The Transformers'' series was redubbed anime which originated in Japan, just like ''Battle of the Planets'', ''Voltron'', ''Robotech'' and other such shows screened in the '80s.'''<br /> : Although most moderate-to-hardcore fans are well aware that this is a fallacy, there are those more casual fans (or those who have not rewatched the original ''Transformers'' cartoon since childhood) who are under the misconception that [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'']] was an anime.<br /> : Although the original toyline and thus the characters' basic visual designs were taken from Japanese-originated products, the original characters, names, factions and entire story premise of the whole ''Transformers'' franchise were developed in the United States by [[Hasbro]], [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and eventually [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]]. Although the animation was farmed out to [[Toei|Japanese]] (and later also [[AKOM|Korean]]) [[TMS Entertainment|studios]], the writing and original voice recording of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|all four seasons of the original series]] plus ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'' was entirely done in America.<br /> : This misconception probably stems from distant childhood memories of the cartoon, the fact that shows like the aforementioned ''Robotech'' were redubbed anime and the ''Transformers''' obvious Japanese influences. This ''may'' also be due to passing exposure to [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] shows which, viewed as an adult, are ''very'' obviously redubbed anime.<br /> : This is in part related to the misconception that '''all''' ''Transformers'' toys are ''solely'' designed, developed and manufactured by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], and all [[Hasbro]] ever does is to put them in new packaging and distribute them in the Western market (see above). Because this is true for other Japanese robot toylines, and therefore it must also apply to ''Transformers''.<br /> : However, there's actually a ''little'' bit of truth to this misconception; since the G1 cartoon is an animated series made by Japanese studios, one could feasibly call it an anime; as &quot;anime&quot; is only a word to describe any form of animation in Japan, much like the word &quot;cartoon&quot; is here in the West, and ''not'' a term for a specific genre.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Jazz was written out of the series due to the death of his voice actor.'''<br /> : [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] conspicuously survives the events of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', yet went on to make no speaking appearances in the third season of the cartoon. As his voice actor, [[Scatman Crothers]], passed away of lung cancer in 1986, it is common for fans to assume that the latter caused the former. This isn't hurt by the fact that fellow Autobot and film survivor [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] also vanished due to issues involving [[Casey Kasem|his own voice actor]], nor by the fact that one of Jazz's only appearances involved him seemingly being referred to as &quot;[[Munka Spanka]].&quot; <br /> : However, the dates simply don't match up: Crothers's death happened on November 22, long after the third season had begun airing. In fact, by that point, the only remaining episodes were the two parts of &quot;[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|The Return of Optimus Prime]]&quot;, both of which aired months after the rest of the season. Add in the fact that any dialogue for the episodes would have been recorded months in advance, and the idea that Crothers dying affected the writing process becomes borderline impossible. The more likely answer is that Jazz stopped appearing, like much of the Season 1 and 2 cast, because his toy was no longer on shelves.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Headmasters'' was going to be dubbed into English and shown in America.'''<br /> : In America, &quot;Season 4&quot; consisted of &quot;The Rebirth&quot;, a 3-episode mini-series. In Japan, &quot;The Rebirth&quot; was ignored, and a full-fledged series titled ''The Headmasters'' continued the story instead. Rumors once swirled in the fandom of an American-led dub of ''The Headmasters'' series; the dub was largely finished, goes the story, till the materials were lost in a warehouse fire.<br /> : Given the meandering pace of the series (common for Japanese shows but anathema to American sensibilities), the presence of numerous characters who had no toy equivalent on US shelves, the incompatibility with the &quot;[[Nebulan]]&quot; head characters, the number of Japanese cultural references, and the very existence of &quot;[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Rebirth]]&quot;, this rumor seems unlikely on the surface.<br /> : More to the point, no official confirmation or other evidence has ever surfaced to back it up. In all likelihood the rumor was probably a {{w|Chinese whispers|Chinese Whisper}} from the fact that the laughably-bad English language [[Omni Productions]] dub was screened on UK satellite TV during the 1990s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Transformers were meant as a &quot;genderless&quot; race. Arcee and the other female Transformers were added to the brand because feminists complained about the Transformers all being male.'''<br /> : When [[Bob Budiansky]] was assigned to work out the character details for the toys, he initially intended some of them to represent female characters, like [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. However, he was not given permission by [[Hasbro]] to include females because the company feared it would have a negative impact on the sales of those toys.&lt;ref&gt;[http://rustingcarcass.yuku.com/topic/954 Rusting Carcass interview]&lt;/ref&gt; Budiansky complied, and in later years, would even pen [[Recipe for Disaster!|a story]] for the Marvel comic in which the Transformer race was stated to have no concept of gender.<br /> <br /> :[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The cartoon]] was a different story. Since television requires a bigger investment than comics, but also offers the potential for a much better payoff, it is of interest for a TV network to broadcast material that reaches the highest possible demographic. To this end, very early in its development, writer [[Jeffrey Scott]] penned a [[production bible]] which included original female Transformer characters as part of an effort to sell the series to TV Network CBS. When it was decided to produce the series for syndication rather than for a network, new story editors [[Bryce Malek]] and [[Dick Robbins]] dropped this idea, and the series went on to star an exclusively-male cast of robots. However, in late 1984, while working on the early story development for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', writer [[Ron Friedman]] argued for the inclusion of a female Autobot in the story, on the basis that he &quot;had a daughter who love[d] this stuff.&quot; Friedman won his argument, Arcee was added to the movie, and in 1985, female Autobots were incorporated into the series in advance of the film's release, with the introduction of [[Elita One]] and her [[Female Autobots]] in the episode &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]].&quot;<br /> :In other Transformers cartoons, [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] and the English dub gender flip of [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] have also been added to their respective series because of network demands, whereas [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]], [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] were a request from the writers to Hasbro.<br /> : Despite persistent stories, there is no documented instance of feminists demanding the inclusion of female Transformers (and likely, they've got something better to do than complain about another generic boys show like there are hundreds of). There is, however, a comic story called &quot;[[Prime's Rib!]]&quot; which presents Arcee's introduction to the Autobot ranks as an attempt by Optimus Prime to appease [[Feminist mob|human feminists]]. While the story is obviously satire, through hearsay it has become believed by some that it is what actually happened.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''The Transformers: The Movie''====<br /> <br /> *'''Some portions of Unicron's dialogue were recorded by an actor other than Orson Welles.'''<br /> <br /> : A common rumor in the Western fandom claimed that Unicron's final lines (&quot;Destiny... you cannot destroy my.. destiny!&quot;) were recorded by [[Leonard Nimoy]], based on claims that those lines sounded &quot;different&quot; from the rest of [[Orson Welles]]' lines.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/trivia IMDB.com reference to the Leonard Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt; Compounding the rumor is the fact that Welles died shortly after recording his ''TF:TM'' lines&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/This-Orson-Welles/dp/030680834X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6174389-3113623?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1182349938&amp;sr=8-1 According to one biography, Welles recorded his ''TF:TM'' lines on October 5, 1985 and died five days later.]&lt;/ref&gt; (and indeed, one version of the rumor has Welles actually dying ''before'' completing his lines). Despite being debunked repeatedly (including by [[Susan Blu]] and [[Wally Burr]], both of whom should know), this one still pops up from time to time.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/387399-leonard-nimoy-officially-announced-voice-sentinel-prime-13.html#post5858748 Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor repeated by TFW2005 user &quot;RedAlert Rescue&quot;.]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2007/07/when_orson_welles_was_a_transformer.single.html Slate.com discusses the Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie''/Scatman Crothers coined the term &quot;ginormous&quot;, which has since been added to several dictionaries.'''<br /> <br /> : In ''The Transformers: The Movie'', [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], voiced by [[Scatman Crothers]], described [[Unicron]] as &quot;a ginormous, weird-looking planet&quot;. The word &quot;ginormous&quot;, a portmanteau of &quot;gigantic&quot; and &quot;enormous&quot;, was officially added by the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary in 2007.&lt;ref name=&quot;webster&quot;&gt;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/newwords07.htm Merriam-Webster adding the word &quot;ginormous]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : Some fans believe that Crothers had coined the term, which is incorrect for several reasons. Even putting aside the notion that under this theory, Crothers is assumed to have ad-libbed the line (rather than simply reading it from [[Ron Friedman]]'s script), the term has actually been around for much longer, being listed in the Oxford English Dictionary as a &quot;British informal&quot; word that has existed since at least the 1940s, and was originally military slang.&lt;ref name=&quot;oxford&quot;&gt;[http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ginormous Oxford dictionary entry for &quot;ginormous&quot;]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was never released in Japan.'''<br /> <br /> : It is true that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was not released in Japan at the same time it was released in [[Hasbro]]'s markets, with Japanese fans instead getting the ''[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]'' OVA prior to the release of the third season of the show (second for Japan). But ''The Movie'' ultimately made it to Japanese theaters in August 1989. The various discrepancies between it and subsequent Japan-only Generation 1 fiction (such as who [[Prowl (G1)#The Headmasters cartoon|didn't]] [[Wheeljack (G1)#Victory cartoon|survive]] the movie) are largely a matter of the Japanese animators and writers being unaware of the precise details of the film. This also led to a similar rumor that ''Scramble City'' was an out-and-out ''replacement'' for the film, similar to how ''The Headmasters'' replaced &quot;The Rebirth.&quot; Actually viewing the OVA reveals that it has nothing to do with the events of ''The Movie'', other than that both feature [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and take place between the second and third seasons; at no point does it significantly contradict the film, and pretty much the only third-season change the film explains is where [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] came from. There were indeed attempts to summarize what had happened in the movie, including a narration added to &quot;Five Faces of Darkness&quot; and scans in ''Terebi Magazine'', but ''Scramble City'' served much more as an advertisement for its subline than a major turning point of the continuity.&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216153#post216153&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216478#post216478&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?threadid=30800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in Japan under the title &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.'''<br /> <br /> : &quot;[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix|Matrix Forever]]&quot; is actually the shortened and slightly mistranslated title of a 20-minute video created to promote the Japanese release of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', but some Western fans have been confused into thinking that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' itself was renamed &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a5d29844863d2c29&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;SpaceMafia&quot;&gt;'''Black Shadow and Blue Bacchus are both members of a &quot;Space Mafia&quot;.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :[[Black Shadow (G1)|Black Shadow]] of ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'' has his function listed as &quot;Space Gangster&quot;. An early fan translation of his on-package [[bio]] misinterpreted the Japanese word for &quot;gangster&quot; to mean &quot;Mafia&quot;, hence the belief that a &quot;Space Mafia&quot; exists in the Japanese Generation 1 universe. This was naturally extended to his partner, [[Blue Bacchus]], whose function is &quot;Space Gunman.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MetrotitanZombie&quot;&gt;'''Metrotitan is a zombie version of Metroplex.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> : [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was a Destron [[redeco]] of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] from the ''[[Transformers: Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'' portion of Japanese Generation 1 continuity. For unclear reasons, Western fans believe that Metrotitan was a &quot;zombified&quot; version of Metroplex, and a stranger variation on this rumor holds that Metrotitan was somehow &quot;regrown&quot; from one of Metroplex's legs.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot; /&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====European Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *'''Starscream and Shrapnel are female characters in the French dub of Generation 1.'''<br /> : This rumor is only partly true. The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' cartoon]] used three different dub teams for the French version: one for the TV show's dub broadcast in Quebec, one for the TV show's dub broadcast in France and one for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] used in both countries. Neither of the TV show's dubs depict [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] as a female as he uses a distinctively male voice;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM YouTube: Doublage de France: Combaticons et Égo]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMXCeXw5Vdo Doublage Québécois: Égo et Dr. Croc-en-ville]&lt;/ref&gt; however, the movie's dubbing team used a female voice for Starscream, and at one point [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] calls Starscream &quot;une imbécile&quot; (articles in French are gender-specific), clearly cementing Starscream's movie status as a female.&lt;ref&gt;http://web.archive.org/web/20080612225831/http://www.bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes&lt;/ref&gt; All the same is also true for [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who is even referred to as &quot;Mademoiselle Shrapnel&quot; by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] in the movie.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The German version of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was edited and didn't depict Starscream's death scene.'''<br /> : German TV didn't air a dubbed version of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] until 1989. ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' was aired for the first time on German TV in 1994, with only one repeat. For unknown reasons, a rumor was circulating for several years claiming that [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream's]] death was considered too &quot;violent&quot; for German TV standards for children's programs and had therefore been edited out.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&amp;fid=7489&amp;vid=38680 German movie database ''still'' listing the rumor about Starscream's &quot;edited death&quot; in TF:TM]&lt;/ref&gt; However, recordings of the TV airing still exist, which don't feature any obvious edits other than [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] infamous &quot;swear&quot; line. Furthermore, a German DVD edition of the movie released in 2004 that features an entirely different dub also depicts Starscream's death in all its glory.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.'''<br /> :The comic story &quot;[[Desert Island Risks!]]&quot; from issue 264 of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|G1 comic]] reveals that the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] have somehow lost their ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As a result, they try to build another Devastator as a new robot.<br /> <br /> :Some fans mistakenly believe that this is somehow related to a re-release of the Constructicons (now in yellow) that were available in [[The Transformers (European toyline)|Europe]] after the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' toyline had ended in the USA. Those Constructicons omitted the extra parts necessary to form Devastator; and furthermore, [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] and [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (neither of them officially named in this version; all six toys came on multi-purpose cardbacks simply named &quot;Constructicon&quot;) were [[retool]]ed to omit the tabs that were necessary for combining them (and [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]) when forming Devastator. Since the toys couldn't combine into Devastator anymore, fans believe that the [[Earthforce]] comic story was intended to serve as an &quot;explanation&quot; for this.<br /> <br /> :The problem with this theory, however, is that the yellow &quot;Euro&quot; Constructicon toys were released in 1992; the comic story, however, had already come out in early 1990. If anything, &quot;Desert Island Risks!&quot; was based on the [[Action Master]] version of Devastator, which no longer consisted of six individual Constructicons. (Also, the individual Constructicons don't even appear in the story.)<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Early internet misconceptions===<br /> <br /> *'''Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.'''<br /> [[File:G1 OptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1984—the original.]]<br /> [[File:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1988—the Powermaster version.]]<br /> <br /> :This one claims that the [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy, originally released in 1988, is the ''original'', first Optimus Prime toy ever released, rather than the ''earlier'', non-Powermaster toy, which is an entirely different mold and was originally available in 1984. This phenomenon is particularly common in [[eBay]] auctions, where Powermaster Optimus Prime toys are frequently advertised as &quot;ORIGINAL Optimus Prime&quot;.<br /> :The reasons for this misconception are obvious: Numerous people arrived late to the party—that is, became fans of the original ''Transformers'' line after the ''real'' original Optimus Prime toy had vanished off the shelves in 1986 (the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] was still shown in reruns on TV). Any of them looking for a toy of the iconic [[Autobot]] leader would only find the Powermaster toy on store shelves starting in 1988. Fast-forward to 20 years later, and people who weren't really paying a lot of attention to the brand for the past few years, now looking to sell off their childhood toys, would naturally conclude that the toy they got as a kid was the ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.<br /> :The phenomenon is even more widespread in countries such as Germany, where the cartoon wasn't officially shown on TV until 1989(!). By that point, the ''original'' toy, which had originally been released by [[Milton Bradley]] in the European market in 1985, was long gone off the shelves. Thus, the only Optimus Prime toy available to kids who had only just become fans because of the cartoon was the Powermaster version. Admittedly, [[parallel import|gray import]]s of the Mexican version of the ''original'' toy by [[IGA]] were also available in European stores around this time, and Hasbro themselves would release the original toy again two years later as part of their European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line of reissues. However, the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was still a lot more widespread.<br /> <br /> *'''20th Anniversary Optimus Prime was the Optimus Prime toy available in the 1980s/Alternators are the same toys that were available in the 1980s.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-1-Convoy.jpg|125px|thumb|Sadly, this didn't exist until 2003.]]<br /> :This misconception usually comes from people who, upon seeing the 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy (which was originally released in 2003/2004), honest-to-god swear it's the toy they had when they were a kid. Similarly, there are also people who believe that the toys from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' line are the same toys they had as kids, when they're most likely confusing them with the original Autobot Cars, which are about half the size.<br /> :The reasons for this aren't too hard to guess: People were a lot smaller when they were kids, so obviously the original Transformers toys seemed a lot larger to them. Since these fans didn't repeatedly hold or play with their Transformers while growing up, they weren't constantly adjusting to the toys' size in relation to their own. This resulted in blurred memories of outright ''gargantuan'' Transformers toys available in the 1980s. (One might wonder how tall those people would remember [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] being.)<br /> :When confronted with the original toys—now relatively small because the fans have grown up—these people often reject them, insisting the &quot;original&quot; toys were ''larger'' (occasionally even accusing the ''real'' original toys of being downsized [[knockoff]]s). Showing them the Alternators or 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, on the other hand, will bring back warm (albeit incorrect) memories.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''&quot;Bumblejumper&quot; is just a yellow Cliffjumper'''<br /> [[File:G1-toy Bumper.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, who later would be known as &quot;Bumper&quot;.]]<br /> :In 1984, Hasbro released three different similar-form toys as part of the [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] assortment: [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys|Cliffjumper]], and a [[Bumper (G1)|third unnamed toy]] that was not advertised in any capacity, sold ''only'' on Cliffjumper cards (at least, no samples on a Bumblebee card have ever surfaced). This third mold was a &quot;leftover&quot; from the ''[[Micro Change]]'' line, based on a Mazda Familia 1500XG sedan, and was very quickly phased out (resulting in him becoming the first of the &quot;holy grail&quot; super-costly Transformers on the secondary market). The exact nature of how and why this toy got released is still a mystery. Fans took to calling this third mystery mold portmanteau names such as &quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, &quot;Cliffbee&quot;, and &quot;Bumper&quot;; that last one eventually becoming his official name when he appeared in the ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|''Generation One'' Volume 1]] comic series by [[Dreamwave Productions]].<br /> :Adding to the confusion is that both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were available in two color schemes: their fiction-supported colors (Bee in yellow, Cliff in red) and in reversed colors (Bee in red, Cliff in yellow) up through 1985. And since Cliffjumper and Bumper are both similarly boxy in vehicle form, and Bumper was only available in yellow, and only on Cliffjumper cards for a very short time, and was not in any catalogs and had no name and didn't appear in any cartoons or comics....<br /> :Further adding to the mistaken memory pile is [[Hubcap (G1)#toys|Hubcap]], a yellow [[retool]] of Cliffjumper released in 1986. Fun!<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''A show-accurate Skyfire toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Jetfire-SkyfireModels.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Patience. You just have to wait 22 years.]]<br /> :Due to some legal entanglements, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was renamed &quot;Skyfire&quot; for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]], with a [[character model]] that bore only a vague resemblance to the toy. Some confused viewers seem to have come away assuming that there had to be a [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] Generation 1 toy by the name of Skyfire. (The ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Jetfire toy is actually designed as a mix between the original toy and the cartoon character model, and many later toys have aspects of the cartoon model too.)<br /> <br /> :{{-}}<br /> *'''A Unicron toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Unicron Proto.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seriously, aren't you glad your poor parents didn't have to waste like a hundred bucks on this back in '86?]]<br /> :No toys of [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] were available (or even produced beyond [[prototype]]) until 2003. In fact, the mere ''existence'' of those prototypes wasn't actually officially confirmed until many years later. The first [[Unicron/toys|official Unicron toy]] to be released came out as part of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line in 2003 and was a brand new mold, not based on an old, unused prototype.<br /> :The fictional existence of a ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' Unicron toy is likely based on schoolground one-upmanship: if one kid had a larger toy such as [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], a rival kid would claim to have a Unicron toy in order to appear cooler, but would most likely retire to his bed a sobbing mess, knowing in his heart that one day God would punish him for being a HUGE FIBBER.<br /> :What could also have attributed to this misconception was the voice actor for Unicron himself, Orson Welles. He died before the movie's release and the part in the 1986 movie was his last before his death in 1985. He loathed the part and could not even remember his character's name; he was quoted as saying, &quot;I play a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys,&quot; mistakenly assuming there was a toy for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In 2005, a crazy old man claimed he had created the original ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> :In 2005, the ''Transformers'' [[fandom]] learned, by way of a newspaper article posted by an internet fan site, of the existence of [[Henry Orenstein]], a former toymaker. Although the main focus of the article was Orenstein's then-current achievements in the field of poker, it also implied that Orenstein had &quot;created&quot; the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]]'' toys, and even featured a photo that depicted a somewhat confused-looking Orenstein holding [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]]. Many fans subsequently assumed that this was a deluded old man who believed he had created the concept of ''Transformers'' toys, even though the fandom knew full well by this point that the original toys were originally created in Japan. His status as the &quot;creator&quot; of the ''Transformers'' toy line was subsequently repeated in several other articles about the man, possibly directly based on its mention in the original 2005 article.<br /> :The ''fact'' is that Orenstein had worked for [[Hasbro]] during the 1980s, and was the person who had convinced [[George Dunsay]], then Hasbro's Vice President of R&amp;D, to acquire the rights to a (more or less) innovative type of Japanese toys, which would eventually become known as the original ''Transformers'' toys. Aside from that and the original patent for the [[rubsign]]s, which he shares with Dunsay, Orenstein has made no known contribution to the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. Obviously, the writer of said newspaper article had only marginal knowledge of the history of the ''Transformers'' brand, was told what was most likely nothing more than an anecdote by Orenstein (his biography is full of fascinating episodes, by the way), and subsequently inflated it massively with hyperbole, possibly in an attempt to gain more attention to his article due to the popularity of the brand, even before the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]]. The only question is, where did the photographer get the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy from?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''&quot;Generation 2&quot; means &quot;after ''The Transformers: The Movie''.&quot;'''<br /> :This common but explicitly false idea probably stems from the many casual fans who grew up with the original ''Transformers'' line but stopped paying much attention around 1986, when the animated ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' debuted and the ''Transformers'' craze began to die down. Many such fans regained some interest in ''Transformers'' many years later, particularly with hype surrounding the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]]. Seeing the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; batted around in fandom, it might seem natural to assume it refers to the big changeover that happened with the animated film. It certainly didn't help that, early in the life of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]], [[Pat Lee]] shared in this misconception, leading other new arrivals to the fandom to ape his use of the term.<br /> :While the original animated movie certainly marked a change from one &quot;generation&quot; of toys to another, along with some new design trends, the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; refers to [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|a very specific franchise]], marketed from 1992 to 1995—years after the animated film had come and gone. Its relative obscurity probably contributes to the mis-attribution of the term, as ''Generation 2'' marks a low point in popularity for ''Transformers'' as a whole.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Traumatizing enough as it is, frankly.]]<br /> *'''There exists an &quot;uncut version&quot; of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' containing all sorts of non-kid-friendly content.'''<br /> <br /> : These stories stem mainly from the fact that many home-video releases of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' omit two relatively minor instances of characters using profanity, which during the 1990s resulted in some [[alt.toys.transformers]] posters advertising &quot;uncut&quot; VHS copies of the movie for sale, thus either intentionally or unintentionally creating the myth of a really foul-mouthed and ultra-violent alternate version of ''The Transformers: The Movie''. At least one poster claimed to have uncut reels of the original film showing a number of violent scenes,&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/07464cbfbb5d0cc9/8aee0b30765b2b4a?hl=en#8aee0b30765b2b4a THE UNCUT JAPANESE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE]&lt;/ref&gt; but, unsurprisingly, was unwilling to provide any form of proof.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/799fec40c1aa285e/6af42e4099affa04?hl=en# Doth the Canadian protesteth too much?]&lt;/ref&gt; So have ended all claims of uncut footage from the film.<br /> <br /> :A much stranger rumor, whose origins are unclear, claims that the original theatrical cut of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' depicted [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] crumbling into dust after dying, and that that scene was cut by the distributor in mid-release because children were traumatized by the imagery. Interestingly, the &quot;[[Death of Optimus Prime]]&quot; track on the original soundtrack album does contain ten extra seconds of music. At the end, just before the song's final low-octave percussion sequence, there is a very distinct series of notes that appears nowhere else in the song and is not in the onscreen version. However, no other evidence of this &quot;lost&quot; animation sequence exists among the many storyboards, preliminary animations, interviews, varying formats, etc., that have come to light. The myth could be related to the death of Starscream, a few scenes later, where Starscream '''does''' indeed crumble to dust after being shot by Galvatron; time and distance could lead fans to confuse the two scenes.<br /> <br /> :These claims should not be confused with the extra storyboarded scenes and early script revisions which have come to light over the years, which do in fact contain a lot more violence. But no evidence exists that any of these sequences, even those that made it to storyboard, were ever animated. Especially given the expense of producing full animation.<br /> <br /> ::''See also: [[The Transformers: The Movie#Edits]].''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MegGalvJapan&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, Megatron and Galvatron are two separate characters.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :There are a few instances of Japanese fiction (and advertising) that would seem to support this notion, all of which can be attributed to a lack of communication between [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] prior to the release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. All of them were ultimately ignored by the &quot;primary&quot; fiction, namely the (dubbed) third season of the cartoon (named ''Transformers: 2010'' in Japan) and the accompanying manga, which followed the Western story concept of Galvatron being a reformatted [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].<br /> :The [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 2|second issue]] of ''[[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]]'' [[manga]] depicts [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] commanding [[Megatron Corps|a legion of automatons]] created in [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s image, which some non-Japanese-speaking fans misinterpreted as depicting Galvatron and Megatron co-existing. This even extended into ''[[The Battlestars]]'', where the appearance of Super Megatron solidified the idea to those fans; after all, surely if he were upgraded from Galvatron, he would be named Super Galvatron, right? One particularly sturdy rumor claimed that he was trying to hunt Galvatron down (possibly conflating him with [[Gilthor]]).&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=179&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;PlanetDestron&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, the Destrons (Decepticons) were invaders from a planet called Destron.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :The [[Autobot]]s were renamed &quot;Cybertrons&quot; in the Japanese translation, resulting in a misconception that the Destrons ([[Decepticon]]s) must hail from somewhere other than the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, the Japanese translation also used slightly different spellings for the faction, &quot;Cybertron&quot; (literally: サイバトロン, &quot;Sa-i-ba-to-ro-n&quot;), and the planet, (literally: セイバートロン, &quot;Se-i-baa-to-ro-n&quot;), commonly interpreted as &quot;Seibertron&quot; by Western fans, in order to avoid confusion, even though both words originally started out based on the English name &quot;Cybertron&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot;&gt;[http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 The Transformers Archive essay about various urban legends surrounding the Transformers franchise]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :This rumor presumably originates from an article a Thomas Wheeler had written for ''Attic's Collectible Toys and Values Monthly'' during the hiatus between the [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]] toylines. According to that article, Hasbro chose not to follow this element of the story because of the similarity between the term &quot;Destron&quot; and ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'''s &quot;[[Destro]]&quot; character. Of course, seeing as the story originated in America to begin with and was only dubbed into Japanese later on, this doesn't make a lot of sense. In later years, Wheeler wrote toy reviews for Master Collector's website, which occasionally also display a certain lack of knowledge about various toys and the ''Transformers'' brand's overall history, so it doesn't seem entirely out of place for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Beast Era Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Beast Wars didn't originally have the Transformers branding.'''<br /> :While the early design of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy packaging had the ''Transformers'' brand name in a smaller typeface than the main ''Beast Wars'' logo, the toy range was ''always'' officially titled ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' in the United States from day one. Later on, with the release of the [[Transmetal]]s and [[Fuzor]]s subranges, the ''Transformers'' name was increased in size and prominence on the packaging, eventually reversing the order of the two parts of the title to ''Transformers: Beast Wars''. <br /> <br /> :In Europe, things were a little less cut-and-dry: Various types of [[multilingual packaging]] that saw use in different markets further reduced the prominence (and in some cases, also the visibility) of the ''Transformers'' branding, initially relegating it to an entirely different section of the packaging far away from the ''Beast Wars'' title. Lastly, when British commercial broadcaster ITV aired the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' television series]] on their morning show (GMTV), the ''Transformers'' name was edited out of the title sequence entirely.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''The [[Vok]] are servants of [[The One]].'''<br /> :This idea was largely born out of coincidence, misunderstanding, and very poor timing. In the first season of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]], one of the more important parts of its story was the mystery surrounding an alien race called the Vok. As admitted by series creators [[Bob Forward]] and [[Larry DiTillio]], the first season was largely made up as it went along; so too was the story of the Vok. There was no truly definite plan for what these alien were, beyond their being enigmatic and otherworldly. Behind the scenes, there were some ideas bounced between Forward and DiTillio, but which were largely contradictory and not at all concrete. Ultimately, the true nature of the Vok was left unexplored in the cartoon, leaving it to ancillary media to formulate their own interpretations.<br /> :For [[BotCon 2001]], Bob Forward was given the chance to flesh out the Vok's backstory in the form of a short comic titled &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 1|Primeval Dawn]]&quot;, in which he characterized them as an evolved and enlightened form of the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], a malevolent force from the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' series from [[Marvel Comics]]. (Note that this was ''not'' Forward's background idea for the Vok, but rather DiTillio's). In this comic, the Vok declared themselves to be &quot;Guardians of the One. Defenders of the Ultimate -- Of that which must be.&quot; At the time of release, this appeared to have merely been a direct callback to a line the Vok had spoken in the cartoon episode &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 1]]&quot;—&quot;That which does not become part of the One shall become void.&quot; Though, what, exactly, they meant by &quot;the One&quot; was not explained.<br /> :After a series of delays and changed plans, the next two chapters of ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' finally saw release at [[OTFCC 2004]]. By this point, Hasbro insisted that all convention fiction must promote the new ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Transformers: Universe]]'' series. Thus, Parts 2 and 3 of ''Primeval Dawn'' were given a sizable dose of foreshadowing to the [[Universe War]]. In particular, &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]&quot; (now penned by ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)#Transformers: Universe|Universe]]'' writer [[Simon Furman]]) gave the following descriptions for the Vok:<br /> {{quote|We are '''''the Vok''''', guardians of '''''the One.''''' We are of the Source, the Core, forever committed to safeguard '''''the Plan.''''' But it was not always so. We began in flailing darkness, a '''''swarming''''' mass of '''''hungry''''' instinct and '''''primal''''' need. Unguided, we consumed, ravaged... Plagued the very macroverse we now seek to protect. Then came the '''''Light''''', and with knowledge and understanding. Our destiny and purpose revealed.}}<br /> {{quote|We spread beyond the one universe into the '''''many''''', across '''''every''''' plane of reality and consciousness, seeding the past, present, and future. We saw the '''''entirety''''' of the Creator's vision, the One... and the '''''All.''''' A '''''unity''''' of worlds, timelines, and dimensions. A multiversal confluence, harmonized and organized. In perfect '''''synchronicity.''''' But... The Plan is threatened. The '''''Enemy''''' of all creation is once more roused. His agents spreading like a '''''virus''''' throughout the omniversal system.|Vok|[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]}}<br /> :Translation: The first is another recounting of the Vok's origins as the Swarm and their purification by [[Primus]]'s power via the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. The &quot;Source&quot;/&quot;Core&quot; they speak of is Primus himself,&lt;ref&gt;One year earlier, in 2003, Furman equated Primus with the Oracle, Vector Sigma, and &quot;the Source&quot; in the ''Transformers: Universe'' [[OTFCC Live-Action Drama|live script reading]] at [[OTFCC 2003]].&lt;/ref&gt; whose essence within the Matrix is the source of Cybertronian life, and who became one with the [[core]] of Cybertron, in [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel's ''The Transformers'' comics]] (specifically those written by Furman).<br /> :The second seems to reinterpret the Vok's ill-defined experiment with prehistoric Earth as part of some still-vague service to &quot;the One&quot;/&quot;the Plan&quot;/&quot;the Creator's vision&quot;—in other words, Primus's [[Grand Plan]]. Their 'quantum-babble' description of &quot;the One and the All&quot; likewise alludes to the saying &quot;[['Til all are one]]&quot;, which is now tied directly to the Grand Plan. The &quot;Enemy of all creation&quot; is [[Unicron]], whose imminent return and &quot;agents spreading like a virus&quot; across the multiverse was the key conflict of the Universe War itself, making this more foreshadowing on Furman's part. <br /> :However, much of this deeper meaning was lost on most fans thanks to the comic's release coming just two months after the publication of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', also penned by Furman. This book introduced the godlike being simply known as &quot;[[The One]]&quot;, who created both Unicron and Primus. Later, the Hasbro website feature [[Ask Vector Prime]] would claim that Unicron and Primus were created by something called the &quot;Source&quot;. And later still, the Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime would conflate both The One and the Source with the &quot;sentient core of the universe&quot; that created Primus in the Marvel comics, canonizing a few fan theories that had flourished over the years.<br /> :In hindsight, with all three of these concepts now merged together, it is not hard to see why some fans latched onto the idea that the &quot;One&quot;, the &quot;Source&quot;, and the &quot;Core&quot; that the Vok referred to in their service of Primus in ''Primeval Dawn'' was the very same entity that ''The Ultimate Guide'', Vector Prime, and Marvel had each claimed to have been the creator of Primus. Yet, it becomes clear that that was not the intended meaning behind the Vok's dialogue when one realizes that said dialogue was instead merely an attempt [[to sell toys|to build hype]] for ''Transformers: Universe''. Thankfully, when once asked directly about the Vok's service of The One, Vector Prime neglected to address that particular part of the question altogether.<br /> <br /> ====Japanese ''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''Preface'''<br /> :To give a better idea of how the following misconceptions came about, many of them stem from how little access the Western fandom had to understandable forms of the Japanese ''Beast Wars'' media at the time. After all, when the series were first released, the internet was still a relatively &quot;new&quot; thing, where [[alt.toys.transformers|USENET forums]] were still a major outlet for fan information and websites were... rudimentary. For about two decades since that time, the most that the West had access to were a small number of fan-subtitled episodes of ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', a fansubbed version of the theatrical feature segment ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!]]'', a translation of the first ''Beast Wars II'' [[Catalog#Beast Wars II|toy catalog]], and second-hand accounts from those who had seen the untranslated episodes of either series or had read each's respective [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (manga)|series]]. Over time, those who lacked an understanding of the Japanese language would misinterpret much of these series' specifics. The following are a few of the most well known misunderstandings.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Optimusx2.JPG|thumb|Well, that's just Prime.]]<br /> *'''In Japanese ''Beast Wars'' continuity, Optimus Primal and Megatron were the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes.'''<br /> :Initially, both ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] were identified in early packaging as new incarnations of Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], respectively, in the Western release of the toyline. This was most evident in the bios of the Basic class bat Optimus Primal and alligator Megatron toys, the very first toys of the two. But, the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] would do away with this by firmly establishing that the two were instead separate individuals from their Generation 1 namesakes.<br /> :When ''Beast Wars'' was first brought over to Japan, Takara evidently thought that the original notion was still the case: Optimus Primal was renamed &quot;Convoy&quot;, the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, and the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] factions were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon factions—&quot;Cybertron&quot; and &quot;Destron&quot;, respectively. Optimus and Megatron's Ultra and Basic class toys were each given Japanese bios loosely based on the English bios of their respective Basic class toys; their Ultra class toy bios even gave them the same functions as their Generation 1 namesakes ([[Supreme Commander]] and [[Emperor of Destruction]], respectively) and the one for Optimus even implied that he was the very same Optimus of old. Both of their Basic class toys were even given special redecos with new bios that ''explicitly'' claimed the two had previously been a tractor trailer and a Walther P-38, the very altmodes of the Generation 1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. <br /> :When the first season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon began airing in Japan, it was initially ambiguous on the matter, never actually saying one way or the other if Optimus and Megatron were meant to be new characters like their English counterparts, or the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes. More unhelpful to this confusion was Optimus Primal's later big-screen guest appearance in ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'', in which the cast of ''Beast Wars II'' revered him as a &quot;legendary Supreme Commander&quot;, in contrast to his depiction in the American cartoon as merely the captain of a lowly science vessel. Likewise, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] referred to a &quot;Megatron&quot; as &quot;the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history.&quot; But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or ''Beast Wars'' Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus.<br /> :Clarity would finally come in ''Beast Wars Metals'', the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's second and third seasons, which had been held back from airing on Japanese television until after both seasons had been completed by [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]], and thus did not reach Japanese audiences until after ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' were over. In short, ''Metals'' remained consistent with the original English-language version in keeping the Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars'' namesakes as separate characters. In the Japanese dub of &quot;[[The Agenda (Part 2)]]&quot;, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron even refers to Generation 1 Megatron as &quot;My ancestor Megatron&quot;&lt;ref&gt;我先祖のメガトロン, ''Waga senzo no Megatron''&lt;/ref&gt; when relating the history of the Golden Disk to Ravage.<br /> :As for the &quot;legendary&quot; status of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus and Megatron in the movie, that was (and still is) merely an aspect of long-running Japanese children's series that have multiple shows (e.g. – ''Kamen Rider'', ''Super Sentai'', etc.), in that the main hero of a previous series is treated with awe and reverence by the cast of the next series in any crossover team-ups. Optimus Primal was the leader of the good guys from the series preceding ''Beast Wars II'', so the cast of that series viewed him with due respect. Later, the cast of ''Beast Wars Neo'' did the same for Lio Convoy of ''Beast Wars II'', calling him a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; in [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]]. Heck, even [[Big Convoy]] was called a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; multiple times in ''Neo'', even as early as the [[Big Convoy, Move Out|first episode]]. To put it simply, being &quot;legendary&quot; in Japanese ''Beast Wars'' fiction is not as special as it sounds.<br /> :Incidentally, it would later be confirmed that the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon actually took place eons ''after'' the later-made ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' (see below for more). This meant that ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron actually ''were'' figures of the distant past from the ''Beast Wars II'' cast's perspective. In hindsight, this legendary status of the two in the movie fits rather well with how, in ''Beast Machines'', Megatron singlehandedly conquered all of Cybertron and &quot;viciously&quot; captured the sparks of its entire population, while Optimus saved the whole planet from Megatron at the cost of his own life. As Japan would not receive that series until [[2004]]—six years after the movie's release—this all proved rather fortuitous in the end.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Optimus Primal was sent to Planet Gaia in the ''Beast Wars II'' movie when he flew into the alien machine at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;.'''<br /> :The ''Beast Wars II'' feature film, ''[[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers]]'', was initially released in Japanese theaters before the second season of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon first aired in Japan. During the ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' segment of this film, Optimus Primal made a guest appearance to team up with the cast of ''Beast Wars II''. At the end of the segment, he declares that he must &quot;return to Energoa&quot;; this was the name given to prehistoric Earth in the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, before its true identity as Earth was revealed. This meant that he had been transported to Planet [[Gaia]]—future Earth—from prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]].<br /> :The final episode of the first season of ''Beast Wars'', &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 2]]&quot;, ends with Optimus Primal flying up into the [[Vok]]'s [[Planet Buster|planet-destroying weapon]], sacrificing himself to save the planet. [[Aftermath|Three]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)|episodes]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|later]], he is restored to life after a difficult resurrection process. Since Primal's appearance in the movie was screened in Japan between the Japanese airings of Seasons 1 and 2 of ''Beast Wars'', some took this release order as a literal chronology for Optimus Primal's Japanese cartoon appearances, thinking that his final moment in &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot; was the exact moment he was pulled into the future and brought to Gaia. A statement given in the ''[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book]]'' even seemed to confirm this theory.&lt;ref&gt;Page 7: エイリアンマシンに激突した際、時空を超えて惑星ガイアにやってきた。(&quot;When he crashed into the [[Planet Buster|Alien Machine]], he crossed space-time and came to the planet Gaia.&quot;)&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :Some even took his presence in the movie as an explanation for why the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had great difficulty locating Primal's [[spark]] within &quot;the other side of the [[Transformer afterlife|Matrix]]&quot; in &quot;[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)]]&quot;, as if to mean that it ''wasn't'' there at the time. ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' is even bookended by sequences that recap the events of Primal's death and rebirth in ''Beast Wars''. And most of all, when Optimus is brought to Gaia, he initially appears in a glowing, yellow, ghost-like form, which ''wasn't'' the case for the story's main antagonist, [[Majin Zarak]], who had arrived on Gaia through the exact same means as Optimus. He even returns to this glowing, yellow, spectral form upon his departure near the end of the movie.<br /> :However, despite the longevity of this theory, the opening narration of the very next part of the movie—the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' season 2 episode &quot;[[Bad Spark]]&quot;—actually seems to debunk it by essentially reiterating what was true of Primal's fate in the English version of ''Beast Wars''. In this narration, Rhinox and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] claim that Optimus Primal did indeed die in the [[unspace|transwarp]] explosion at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;, and that Rhinox had brought his spark back from the dead in &quot;Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)&quot;. <br /> :While this apparently renders the ''Film Book''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s statement in error, it does seem like there was originally ''some'' intention for it to be true, given Primal's arrival and departure in the movie depicting him in his aforementioned ghostly form. But, while a neat idea, it raises too many questions and relies on too many assumptions in order for it to sensibly fit with Primal's onscreen resurrection. And since Rhinox and Rattrap claim otherwise, this would mean that Optimus was brought to the future from a different point during the Beast Wars, ''before'' the end of Season 1 due to Primal having his Season 1 body in the movie. Exactly when during Season 1, however, has never been disclosed.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {{anchor|JBWchronology}}<br /> [[File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|thumb|Everything you know is a lie!]]<br /> *'''The characters of the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoons hail from the same time-period as the cast of ''Beast Wars'', at a point set prior to ''Beast Machines''.'''<br /> :It's almost not fair to call this one a misconception: By all appearances, this ''was'' the original intent for the Japanese-original ''Beast Wars'' shows. Both the first catalog packed in with ''Beast Wars II'' toys and the ''Beast Wars II'' manga present Lio Convoy and Galvatron as contemporaries of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron, and the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon initially gave no reason to doubt that this also applied to its story. ''Beast Wars Neo'' even featured a [[Convoy Council|Maximal governing body]] that could have very well been the Japanese version of the [[Maximal Elder]]s/[[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. But then, months into its run, the [[Emissary of the Fourth Planet|thirty-sixth episode]] of ''Beast Wars II'' stated that humanity hadn't lived on Gaia for &quot;tens of thousands of years.&quot; As the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon [[Dark Designs|established]] that its cast hailed from only three centuries after the Generation 1 era, when Earth was still populated by humans, this meant that it was impossible for the 'bots of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' to be from the same time period, and that the two Japanese series were, in fact, set ''long'' after the home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast. Of course, as it would be nearly twenty years before either series was translated in full, western fans never ''learned'' about this at the time and, with only the catalog to go on, continued to assume that its story held true for the Japanese cartoons. It was only in the 2006, when TakaraTomy published a massive [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|Generation 1/Beast Era timeline]], which adhered to the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon's dating for the series, that English-speaking fans at large first learned of this fact.<br /> :Now, to be honest, ''Beast Wars II'' probably didn't ''intentionally'' deviate from ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, but rather, just kinda goofed on the continuity, and history had to roll with it. That said, this did fix a discrepancy: By coincidence, both ''Beast Wars Neo'' and ''Beast Machines'' (both produced around the same time) featured the mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]], but depicted it in two radically different, very contradictory ways. ''Beast Wars Neo'' had presented the computer as the publicly-known ruler of Cybertron, while ''Beast Machines'' depicted it as a long-lost legend, unheard of for years until it was reactivated in [[The Reformatting|the first episode of the series]]. If ''Beast Wars Neo'' was meant to occur before ''Beast Machines'' (as was probably the intent), this didn't make any sense, but the timeline shuffle caused by ''Beast Wars II'' now helped these two different portrayals fit together.<br /> :It did create a ''new'' discrepancy, though: In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Cybertron was depicted with its traditional appearance as a metallic planet, while, at the end of ''Beast Machines'', it was converted into a [[technorganic]] form. In [[2019]], a ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]'' [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Blue Big Convoy)|pack-in comic]] fixed this last gap in the timeline, explaining how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world eons after its [[Great Transformation|technorganic reformatting]].<br /> :While these retcons have tidied things up, the fans' original understanding of the timeline has influenced several pieces of American Beast Era media over the years. The Hasbro toy bio for [[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] [[Cybershark]] referred to &quot;a rogue band of Cybertronian space pirates&quot; (an allusion to ''Beast Wars II'''s [[Seacon (BW)|Seacon Space Pirates]]) as his contemporaries, while the bio for ''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]'' [[Magmatron]] all but explicitly pegged him as the same Magmatron from ''Neo'', mentioning his &quot;[[Emperor of Destruction|emperor of destruction]]&quot; title and his involvement in &quot;an interplanetary quest for [[Angolmois Energy|energy capsules]]&quot;; the latter of which was also placed, by the bio, before the events of ''Beast Machines''.&lt;ref&gt;The full first sentence of ''Dinobots'' Magmatron's bio: &quot;Following an interplanetary quest for energy capsules, Magmatron returned to Cybertron to find an alarmingly growing population of Vehicon drones.&quot;&lt;/ref&gt; In both the ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]'' comic series and the prose story &quot;[[Wreckers: Finale Part II]]&quot;, characters from the two Japanese series appeared on Cybertron as contemporaries of the ''Beast Machines'' cast, at points set within a year after the planet's reformatting. The latter story even referred to [[Combatron (BW)|some of them]] as &quot;pre-reformatting&quot;. [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]]'' comic series likewise chose to depict the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' casts as contemporaries of the ''Beast Wars'' characters (though these series played faster and looser with the timeline, depicting events similar to ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' as having occurred ''before'' the home time-period of the ''Beast Wars'', instead of during or after), while the ''Beast Wars II'' Predacons [[Dirge (BW)|Dirge]] and [[BB (BW)|Max-B]] made appearances in the ''Beast Wars'' prequels &quot;[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]&quot; and &quot;[[Intimidation Game]]&quot;, respectively.<br /> :Even after the release of the Japanese Generation 1/Beast Era timeline, new media set in other continuities have chosen to continue depicting characters from ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' (and even ''Car Robots'') existing side-by-side with the ''Beast Wars'' cast, with such series as ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' and the ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' comics set in the &quot;[[Legends World]]&quot; presenting all of them living together in societies and scenarios unique to those series.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The characters in ''Beast Wars II'' travel forward in time to Future Earth just like how the characters of ''Beast Wars'' travel back in time to Prehistoric Earth.'''<br /> :Seemingly an offshoot of the above misconception, this appears to have been born out of a misinterpretation of a scene in the [[The New Forces Arrive!|first episode]]. When the Maximal starship ''[[Yukikaze (BW)|Yukikaze]]'' takes off into space, there is a shot where it vanishes in a flash of light and reappears elsewhere within the vicinity of Gaia. Some have mistaken this flash of light to mean that the ''Yukikaze'' traveled through [[unspace|transwarp space]] forward in time to arrive in the future, as if to echo the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s own time-jump to the past in ''Beast Wars''.<br /> :This feels like an attempt to hold on to the belief of the ''Beast Wars II'' cast originating from the same home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast, while also aligning with the revelation of Gaia being Earth several tens of millennia after humanity left planet.<br /> :In truth, however, what really happens during the scene in question is that the ''Yukikaze'' simply travels to Gaia with no time travel involved. The ship's disappearance and reappearance in a flash of light was merely the ship going to warp speed, just like many other spacecraft of science fiction.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars II'', Apache is a drunkard as part of a Native American stereotype.'''<br /> :[[Apache]] did indeed get drunk in the first episode of the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon, but only in grief, believing (erroneously) that his earlier actions had caused the death of [[Lio Convoy]] (which didn't happen). He did not get drunk again for the duration of the cartoon, nor did he ever do so in the manga. Outside of that, the Native American stereotype &quot;common&quot; to Japanese fictions is a stoic, silent, and often mystical warrior—none of which could be used to accurately describe Apache at all.<br /> :Amusingly enough, in the sixth installment of the ''Beast Wars II'' manga, ''Lio Convoy'' gets drunk for no apparent reason and ends up trashing Apache's room.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWNeo Unicron.JPG|thumb|Looks can be deceiving.]]<br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Unicron was resurrected by possessing the corpse of Galvatron.'''<br /> :This misunderstanding is pretty understandable. In [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]], the coveted [[Angolmois Energy]] is revealed to be the life energy of [[Unicron]], who is successfully resurrected in [[Unicron Revived!?|the very next episode]]. Yet, when he makes his debut, he appears in the form of Galvatron, who had seemingly perished in the [[Farewell! Lio Convoy|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars II''. At first glance, it looks as though Galvatron's corpse had been recovered and used as a vessel to house Unicron's Angolmois Energy, and those who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply assumed this to be the case.<br /> :However, the Japanese dialogue actually states otherwise. Unicron's resurrected form is not Galvatron's physical body, but is actually an energy body made of Angolmois Energy that Unicron has deliberately shaped into resembling the likeness of Galvatron. He takes this form in an initial attempt to trick Magmatron into thinking that he ''is'' Galvatron, impersonating the deceased Predacon leader before revealing his true identity. After which , he simply decided to continue using Galvatron's likewise as his energy body's default appearance, even using Galvatron's name when transforming between dragon and robot modes.<br /> :Ironically, the misconception of Galvatron's body absorbing the Angolmois Energy as a resurrection vessel is almost exactly what Unicron wanted Magmatron to think, with the difference being that Unicron wanted Magmatron to think that the absorption was for Galvatron's revival instead of Unicron's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWN Blentrons absorbed.jpg|thumb|Unicron absorbs the Blentrons for no reasons related Angolmois Energy]]<br /> *'''The Blentrons are made of Angolmois Energy, and are later absorbed by Unicron to fully complete his resurrection.'''<br /> :In [[End of the Maximals!?|Episode 33]] of ''Beast Wars Neo'', the resurrected Unicron reaches Planet Cybertron in his aim to posses [[Vector Sigma]] and turn Cybertron into his new physical body. However, before touching down on the planet, he battles his way through the entire Maximal space fleet, utterly annihilating it and exhausting much of his power in the process. In his weakened state, he is then nearly destroyed in a fight with Big Convoy. His loyal minions, the [[Blentron]]s, soon come to Unicron's aid and are promptly absorbed by their master.<br /> :Since Angolmois Energy is Unicron's energy, fans who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply misinterpreted the absorption of the Blentrons as if to say that they too were made up of Angolmois Energy, and that Unicron needed to absorb them to top off the last of his energy needed to complete his resurrection.<br /> :In actuality, the three were absorbed because, in that moment, Unicron had been significantly weakened and needed to replenish his health. Otherwise, he would have been destroyed by Big Convoy's Mammoth Dynamite attack, which almost completely dissipated Unicron's energy body. <br /> :The series didn't actually give any kind of backstory for the Blentrons. While they were creations of Unicron in the manga, no such origin was given in the show. Regardless, the idea of the three being made out of Angolmois Energy was certainly never stated or even suggested, having been born out of this misinterpretation of Unicron absorbing them to save his own life.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Beast Machines''====<br /> *'''A ''Beast Machines'' writer said, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns.&quot;'''<br /> :''Beast Machines'' was the first (but not the last) ''Transformers'' series to explicitly avoid all hand-held projectile [[weapon]]ry. While the [[Vehicon (BM)|villains]] still had traditional &quot;blasters&quot; mounted on their bodies, some of the [[Maximal|heroes]]' weapons were more esoteric (such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]'s energy-web attack, activated by putting her hands on the ground, or [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s gauntlets, powered by absorbing enemy fire). According to story editor [[Bob Skir]], this creative decision was agreed upon between the story editors, [[Fox Kids]], [[Mainframe Entertainment]], and [[Hasbro]],&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot;&gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222040119/http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Sat_06_Nov_1999.html Archived Q&amp;A from Bob Skir's now-defunct website,] where Skir responds to the gun controversy (question 7).&lt;/ref&gt; and it is indeed reflected in the toys as well. <br /> <br /> :Note that many Maximals had weaponry that was functionally no different from a &quot;gun&quot;—compare [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]'s hip-mounted energy cannons, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]'s back-mounted sonic blaster, or Optimus Primal's chest-mounted energy disc launcher to [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]'s shoulder-mounted ray guns or [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]'s wrist-mounted energy... tossing thingies. <br /> <br /> :On his website, Skir also elaborated on his own position as a writer choosing if or how to portray gun use, including this statement: &quot;Our heroes use their wiles and resourcefulness, plus a few cool weapons. Guns? I've never been a fan of them myself, and do not write heroes who need them.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://members.aol.com/zobovor/guns.html Article on the fan Dave &quot;Zobovor&quot; Edwards' personal site,] quoting Bob Skir's original gun statement.&lt;/ref&gt; Some fans interpreted Skir as condemning ''all'' gun use, even in the real world, no matter the circumstances. This led to the misquote, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns,&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/be5e55a90df944bb/b748601b997b3508#b748601b997b3508 Alt.toys.transformers thread] with the misquote and attendant assumptions right at the start.&lt;/ref&gt; which remains a notoriously persistent error in the fandom. Skir, responding to the controversy, said on his site that &quot;there '''are''' heroes who '''do''' need guns (such as the [[Punisher]]). Spider-Man doesn't need guns. Neither does the [[Hulk]]. And neither do Optimus, Cheetor, Black Arachnia{{sic}}, et al.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot; /&gt;<br /> :Notably, the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|series]] [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|immediately]] [[Movie (franchise)|following]] ''Beast Machines'' did return to classic hand-held gun use among both heroes and villains. However, the later ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' series once again eschewed guns, probably because of its younger target audience.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''The ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline was known as &quot;Transformers 2000&quot; in Japan.'''<br /> :As information about the then-new [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'' toyline]] began to trickle out of Japan in 2000, early rumors purportedly from Japanese sources indicated that it was officially named &quot;Transformers 2000&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Transformers 2000&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e6436b92178f0c0a&lt;/ref&gt; It's possible those Japanese sources were also going by early, inaccurate rumors or perhaps a soon-to-be-discarded working title for the line. The idea persisted with many Western fans well after the true name of the show was revealed, encouraged by online import retailers (who were equally misinformed) using the title to promote pre-orders on their sites.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Robots in Disguise'' Side Burn was so complex, the toy's designer later apologized.'''<br /> :Basically. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'']] [[Side Burn (RID)|Speedbreaker]] was the first ''Transformers'' toy designed by [[Hironori Kobayashi]], and it kind of shows. In a later interview, he admitted that the development process was a &quot;painful experience&quot; and an &quot;admonition&quot; to do better in the future.&lt;ref name=&quot;Translated interview at ToyboxDX&quot;&gt;http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?3,97799,97800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''Unlike the English version, Gigatron (Megatron) has multiple personalities, a different one for each of his modes.'''<br /> :This seems to have arisen from how, in the Japanese version, Gigatron's bat and dragon modes each have their own unique-sounding voice and way of speaking. The Gigabat voice is higher-pitched, a bit dim-sounding, and speaks like how older people used to speak during Japan's Edo period, ending most of its dialogue with &quot;deansu&quot; (であんす). For the Gigadragon mode, Gigatron speaks with a much deeper, angrier, and overall more aggressive-sounding voice. Both of these differ from his much calmer and more &quot;normal&quot; sounding voice in robot mode (which he also used in each of his other modes), and are most noticeable in the first episode, in which Gigatron makes heavy use of both his Gigabat and Gigadragon modes.<br /> :By contrast, the English ''Robots in Disguise'' version gave Megatron one voice for all of his modes, and rewrote his personality to be much more theatrical and ill-tempered. This in turn made his English voice sound like a combination of the two unique Japanese voices, combining the over-the-top aspects of the Gigabat voice with the seething aggression of the Gigadragon voice.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Unicron Trilogy misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers: Armada'' (2002)====<br /> *'''Micron Legend is the Japanese dub of Armada, that was done later for Japanese audiences.'''<br /> : This misconception seems to be caused by how the series was more commonly known as Armada among most fans and that Armada came out sooner than Micron Legend. In reality, however, the notion that Micron Legend was just the Japanese dub of Armada that was done later for Japanese audiences is flat out incorrect. The series was originally initiated and produced in Japanese as Micron Legend, but due to various executive meddling by both Hasbro/Takara and Cartoon Network, the English dub of Armada was severely rushed out and released to the English-speaking market much sooner than Micron Legend in Japan, which creates the confusion that Armada was the “original” while Micron Legend is mistaken as “Just the dub for Japanese audiences”.<br /> <br /> ==Live-action film series misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers'' (2007)====<br /> [[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Look! No 2007 movie!]]<br /> *'''The movie series takes place in the Generation 1 timeline in Japan.'''<br /> : This is another one of those instances where one TakaraTomy thing, very early in the life cycle of a new ''Transformers'' [[franchise]], will say one thing about said franchise, and then literally ''everything else ever'' will say another.<br /> <br /> : When the live-action movie series was getting started, TakaraTomy went live with their &quot;World of Transformers&quot; website. The website timeline appeared to make the rather bizarre claim that the 2007 live-action movie also somehow took place in the Japanese Generation 1 continuity, between ''The Transformers: The Movie'' and ''Transformers 2010'' in the year 2007. However, this was ''not'' reflected by the site's accompanying flow-chart, and was established to not be the case by the [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|''Kiss Players'' timeline]] (which noted that the movie-verse Autobots and Decepticons came from another universe when they appeared in [[Transformers: Beast Wars Diorama Story|''Beast Wars Diorama Story'']]). And of course, nothing else ever attempted to make the connection.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Transformers'' was nearly rated R by the MPAA.'''<br /> : In the spring of 2007, it was reported that ''{{w|Disturbia (film)|Disturbia}}'', a then-upcoming [[DreamWorks]] film starring [[Shia LaBeouf]] and produced by [[Steven Spielberg]], had received an R rating from the {{w|Motion Picture Association of America}}. That film's rating was eventually lowered to PG-13 on appeal, but in the meantime some ''Transformers'' fans became confused and believed that it was ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' that had been rated R, leading to some heated discussion on ''Transformers'' message boards.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MovieCreditsNoBrawl.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Invisible credit.]]<br /> *'''Brawl is named in the credits.'''<br /> <br /> : The Decepticon tank, who was named &quot;Devastator&quot; in a subtitle in the movie, ended up being named &quot;[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]&quot; in [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toy line]]. Both Hasbro and the screenwriters, [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]], have expressly favored the toy's name, referring to the name in the movie as an &quot;error&quot;.<br /> <br /> : Since the character has a &quot;speaking&quot; line in the movie, some fans claim that the voice actor is named in the ending credits, and the character's name is stated as &quot;Brawl&quot; there. In fact, however, there's no credit ''at all'' for the character, under either name, as he has no voice actor, his &quot;speaking role&quot; being little more than echo-y electronic gibberish.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BanachekMustacheMan.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|One of these is not like the others.]]<br /> *'''The Decepticons' hologram is Tom Banachek.'''<br /> <br /> : Several Decepticons in the movie are seen using a holographic &quot;pilot&quot;/&quot;driver&quot; based on the same short-haired, mustache-clad human with an intense stare, only wearing different clothes to match their respective [[alternate mode]]s. Since [[Tom Banachek]], the head of [[Sector Seven]]'s Advanced Research Division, also sports a mustache, a short-cropped hairstyle and a pretty intense stare, many fans mistakenly believe that the Decepticons' hologram is meant to look like him.<br /> <br /> : There are two problems with that. One, the Decepticons' hologram, dubbed &quot;[[Moustache Man]]&quot; in the credits, is played by real-life United States Air Force Major [[Brian Reece]], whereas Tom Banachek is portrayed by established actor [[Michael O'Neill]].<br /> <br /> :Two... how would the Decepticons know who Banachek even was to model a hologram after him?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Revenge of the Fallen''====<br /> *'''Barricade's return?'''<br /> :A common misconception among fans is that [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang alternate mode was spotted on the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', possibly as part of the alleged &quot;disinformation campaign&quot; director [[Michael Bay]] repeatedly insisted he had initiated. In fact, however, a truck transporting three &quot;Barricade&quot; prop vehicles was spotted in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than ''two months'' before principal shooting for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' started.&lt;ref name=&quot;vehspotted&quot;&gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; There's been no indication that this had any significance other than moving the prop cars... someplace. Barricade would not make his reappearance until the ''next'' movie, ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Dark of the Moon''====<br /> *'''Optimus Prime let the Decepticons take over Chicago.'''<br /> :Given the comparatively darker tone—and a decidedly more ruthless interpretation of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—of the first five live-action films when compared to the majority of the ''Transformers'' franchise, one common criticism of ''Dark of the Moon'' was Prime's apparent complacency in the face of the Decepticon attack on [[Chicago]] after the destruction of the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''—sometimes interpreted by some fans and critics as him &quot;teaching Earth a lesson&quot; after humanity unanimously agrees to exile Prime's Autobots in the hopes of appeasing [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. This reading of the film seems to misinterpret Prime's line of &quot;now your leaders will understand&quot; and &quot;we needed them to believe that we had gone&quot; as Prime having engineered the entire crisis for his own political gain; the second line assuredly refers to the ''Decepticons'', as Optimus and company faking their deaths allowed the heroes to sneak to Chicago and catch Megatron's forces by surprise. Even without the script, Cape Canaveral and Chicago are ''very'' far apart; if we assume that the Autobots hightailed it to Chicago seconds after splashing down in the Atlantic, it would ''still'' take them about eighteen hours to get there, a time discrepancy that more or less matches up with the way events play out onscreen.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Bumblebee''====<br /> *'''Bumblebee is a reboot, and is separate from the rest of the &quot;Bayverse&quot;'''.<br /> : ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' was initially conceived as a straight prequel to the ''Transformers'' films, chronologically falling between the [[World War II]] flashback sequences seen in ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]'' and the 2007 ''Transformers'' film. However, the movie was hastily retooled relatively late into production, tweaking the film's opening to show Bumblebee arriving on Earth in the 1980s, and, as a result, became more-or-less irreconcilable with both the information given by the ''The Last Knight'' and the various prequel comics that had gone before. Likely due to a combination of wishful thinking and resentment of the Bay films, members of the fandom and various mainstream nerd sites quickly jumped on the idea that ''Bumblebee'' was now a &quot;reboot&quot; of the film series as a whole, similar to the {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe}}'s interpretation of [[Spider-Man]] vs. his prior two cinematic outings—though both [[Hasbro]] and [[Paramount Pictures]] have been fairly mum on just how ''Bumblebee'' and the five prior Bay films will fit together moving forward: the closest we've gotten to a conclusive answer is that the film represents the start of a &quot;new storytelling universe,&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467064/looks-like-bumblebee-is-officially-the-start-of-a-new-transformers-movie-universe &quot;Looks Like Bumblebee is Officially The Start Of A New Transformers Movie Universe]&lt;/ref&gt; which is... a pretty ambiguous statement, to say the least. Other fiction, such as the ''[[Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome]]'' comic included with the home media release of the film, has continued to tie the events of ''Bumblebee'' to the rest of the live-action film series, suggesting Hasbro is at least maintaining its prequel status for now.<br /> <br /> : This vaguery has only continued in the lead-up to ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]'', with the only official statement being their desire to avoid the &quot;timeline&quot; of the first five films. This is almost certainly meant to refer to the time''frame'' of the preceding films' events, with ''Rise of the Beasts'' being yet another prequel story set before the 2007 film, rather than any kind of alternate timeline. Either way, for the moment, we're no closer to a definitive answer.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==''Animated'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Hasbro can't make new toys based on Animated characters without Cartoon Network's approval.'''<br /> <br /> : While not rooted in any specific source, there has been a longstanding misconception that because they produced the cartoon and collaborated with Hasbro on the toy designs, [[Cartoon Network]] maintains partial (if not complete) ownership over the character designs in ''Transformers Animated'', and is thus the reason why no new toys of the characters have been released in years.<br /> <br /> : In truth, Hasbro owns ''Animated'' lock, stock, and barrel. A quick glance at the legal jargon on the back of any ''Animated'' toy packaging will show Hasbro as the sole [[copyright]] holder listed. In fact, the only legalese mentioning Cartoon Network is the [[trademark]] for their own name and logo, due to printing &quot;AS SEEN ON CN!&quot; on the box. A handful of ''Animated'' toys were also released after the show ended via [[Fun Publications]], which also listed Hasbro as the sole copyright holder. Similarly, Cartoon Network goes unmentioned in the copyrights for other merchandise like DVDs and tie-in comics. In Japan, the [[Blackarachnia (Animated)#Toys|''Animated'' Blackarachnia toy]] was even retooled years after ''Animated'' ended to create the [[Blackarachnia (BW)/toys#Legends|''Legends'' toy for ''Beast Wars'' Blackarachnia]], again with no mention of Cartoon Network anywhere.<br /> <br /> : The only place you'll find a Cartoon Network copyright is in the credits of the episodes themselves, but Hasbro appears to have long since bought out whatever rights Cartoon Network retained, hence their ability to freely upload ''Animated'' clips to their YouTube channels and make it available for streaming alongside their other ''Transformers'' cartoons on services like [[Tubi]] (very much unlike [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)#Production|the one show we know they ''don't'' have all the rights to]]). And in either case, as mentioned above, it wouldn't prevent them from making new toys using those characters or designs. A much more likely explanation is Hasbro simply wanting new toys to fit a certain aesthetic, one that ''Animated''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s designs don't quite fit. So instead, they simply choose to adapt the characters to fit the new medium, such as with [[Bulkhead (Prime)|''Prime'' Bulkhead]] or [[Clobber (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Clobber]]. The most overt case of this is the 2015 release of the [[Slipstream (Animated)#Legends|''Legends'' Slipstream toy]], retooled from the non-''Animated'' [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Windblade toy]] but explicitly spelled out to be the ''Animated'' character via the [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|accompanying issue]] of the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Legends'' comic]], which itself featured multiple cameos by ''Animated'' characters.<br /> <br /> : Basically, there's nothing stopping them from making new toys based on ''Animated'' characters if they wanted to... they just don't want to.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The Japanese dub of ''Transformers Animated'' presents it as a prequel to the live-action movies.'''<br /> <br /> : This appears to have ''some'' basis: back in March 2010, the then-recent edition of ''[[TV Magazine]]'' published some early pre-release information about the Japanese dub of the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'' cartoon]]. Among the details announced was the name-change of [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to &quot;Ironhide&quot;, and changing his character to be closer in personality to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] from the [[live-action film series|live-action movies]]. The article allegedly also claimed that because [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] was not Supreme Commander of the Autobots in ''Animated'', the cartoon would be &quot;set chronologically before the live action movies&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tvmagani&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/latest-edition-of-tv-magazine-reveals-new-transformers-animated-japan-details-169265/ TFW2005 reporting on ''TV Magazine'' article about the Japanese dub of the ''Transformers Animated'' cartoon], March 2010.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : In actuality, however, not much of this has been reflected in the dub itself: aside from the aforementioned renaming of Bulkhead into &quot;Ironhide&quot;, there's nothing in the Japanese dub that ties the ''Animated'' cartoon any closer to the live-action movies than its American counterpart.<br /> <br /> : TakaraTomy chose to use the movie-style branding for ''Animated'' products, rendering the &quot;Transformers Animated&quot; logo in the gray steel look used for the movies.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Aligned Continuity misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''''Transformers: Prime'' was not initially planned to have any toys.'''<br /> :The [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|toy line]] for ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' was ''very'' delayed, debuting roughly a year after the associated cartoon had premiered. Previously, at a [[BotCon 2010]] panel about the then-upcoming ''Prime'' cartoon, a Hasbro representative had made a statement that they weren't talking about toys just then. ''Transformers'' fandom being [[Red Alert (G1)|what]] [[Breakdown (G1)|it is]], a widespread belief developed that Hasbro was never going to make ''Prime'' toys ''at all.'' As additional information gradually surfaced, this evolved into a rumor that ''Prime'' would only have a small number of toys, with some further speculating that they would also be limited to the Deluxe [[size class]] (since initially only Deluxes had been seen). The eventual revelation of a full ''Prime'' toyline caused the belief to evolve once more, with the new theory being that there wasn't ''originally'' going to be a ''Prime'' toyline, but Hasbro changed their minds due to demand.<br /> :The reality, as usual, was much less apocalyptic. The statement from the Hasbro Studios panel was never intended to refer to anything except the panel itself—the people ''in that room'' weren't going to be discussing toys ''at that panel''. (In fact, [[Eric Siebenaler]] expressed excitement about [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'s toy at the very same panel.) As for the delay in the line's launch, put simply, this was for appearance's sake. Hasbro wanted to establish ''Prime'' as a strong ''fictional'' franchise, rather than merely [[To sell toys|a glorified toy commercial]], and reasonably concluded that launching a toyline immediately would detract from that goal. There ''was'' a point when a few ''Prime'' toys were planned to be released under the ''[[Transformers: Generations]]'' banner, but since ''Generations'' was at that time exclusively Deluxes, the aforementioned Bulkhead (a Voyager) indicates that this idea had already been abandoned when the rumors started.<br /> :In short, this is just a matter of fans jumping to conclusions based on misinterpreted statements.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The High Moon Studios games are part of G1.'''<br /> {{quote|We really did look very closely at Generation 1 stuff and tried to capture what for us was the essence of the characters.|[[Sean Miller]], Director Character and Animation|[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]}}<br /> :With its designs aiming at a video gamer audience who grew up with [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], the development team for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'' took a great deal of inspiration from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]] for such things as characters and the design aesthetic for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]&lt;/ref&gt; A [[Commercial#War for Cybertron|commercial]] even depicted Shockwave ordering Soundwave to play [[The Touch|a song]] made famous by the [[The Transformers: The Movie|original animated movie]]. Furthermore, War for Cybertron toys were sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline that featured Generation 1-styled characters. These factors led many to believe the game was actually part of Generation 1.<br /> <br /> :To be fair, there was and is virtually no information available to the average fan that ''War for Cybertron'' is not part of Generation 1. Hasbro has essentially been folding ''War for Cybertron'' into their modern continuity, and have been informing dedicated fans of this fact through [[Hasbro Q&amp;A|question and answer sessions]].&lt;ref&gt;&quot;The official story of the original 13 and specifically Alpha Trion has not been explored fully in the modern continuity that Transformers War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are a part of.&quot; [[Hasbro Q&amp;A/September 2010: Answers]]&lt;/ref&gt; The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|''War for Cybertron'' comic adaptation]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline] actually are adaptations from ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'', which is the basis for the new modern continuity fiction.<br /> <br /> :Canonically, both WfC and its sequel ''Fall of Cybertron'' are in the Aligned continuity, but beyond suggestions and mandatory changes from Hasbro, High Moon Studios doesn't seem to care about Hasbro's declarations of canon. In the art book for the sequel to WfC, ''[[The Art of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'', the only influences of the concept art and designs mentioned are G1 related. Dreamwave, the original cartoon, and other concepts and ideas from Generation 1 are cited, but the fact that Cliffjumper's head is based off of ''Prime'' Cliffjumper's is not mentioned, nor are the modifications to Optimus Prime's gun, Megatron's new body, [[Tox-En]], or the other assorted influences from Prime. <br /> <br /> :[[High Moon Studios]] has often described the games as prequels to the G1 cartoon. More savvy fans would recognize that the game is generally irreconcilable with the cartoon (or any other Generation 1 continuity for that matter): the circumstances of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s rise to power would contradict &quot;[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]&quot;, and Optimus's [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|predecessor]] does not possess the Matrix, unlike his [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#The Transformers cartoon|cartoon counterpart]]. The Autobots left Cybertron because the [[Core]] shut down, not because energy sources were depleted, and characters like [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]], [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbots]], and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] wouldn't be on Cybertron or even ''exist''. Additionally, the game draws inspiration from other continuities, including characters not from Generation 1 like [[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] and [[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]]. The game does share a lot of similarities with Dreamwave's ''[[War Within (franchise)|War Within]]'' series (where Jetfire and Trypticon are present), but it cannot take place in that continuity either.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Companies==<br /> ===Marvel Comics===<br /> *'''John Romita designed the Generation 1 character models.'''<br /> :The rumor here comes about through a misreading of the credits to ''[[The Transformers Universe]]''. Legendary Marvel Comics artist John Romita, Sr. was listed as &quot;Art Director&quot;, leading readers to assume that he was in charge of designing or developing the various [[character model]]s used in the series (and reprinted in said comic). However, Romita was actually the Art Director for Marvel Comics as a whole at the time. The majority of the character models were in fact done by [[Floro Dery]], who went uncredited.&lt;ref&gt;See [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/11/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-85/ Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed] for more information.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===TakaraTomy===<br /> *'''Takara was taken over by Tomy.'''<br /> :In 2005, it was announced that Takara, longtime Japanese manufacturer/distributor of Transformers toys, and former competitor Tomy would merge into a new company, named [[TakaraTomy]], as of [[March 1]], 2006. Some fans misinterpreted the media coverage, believing that Takara had been bought out by rival Tomy. This was not helped by official press releases declaring Tomy the &quot;surviving company&quot;, Tomy having the majority of shares, and the merged company simply going by the name &quot;Tomy&quot; outside Japan.<br /> :The name issue is easily explained, as it was done for purely pragmatic reasons. &quot;Tomy&quot; is an internationally established brand, since the company already had divisions in many other countries prior to the merger, and distributed their toys under their own name there. Takara, meanwhile, had mostly abandoned ventures into international markets years ago, and had its products distributed through other companies (such as [[Hasbro]]) instead. Therefore, the merged company decided to use the better-known name for its international business, while it would continue as &quot;TakaraTomy&quot; within Japan itself.<br /> :Now, as for the specifics of the merger... Although the merger ratio was set at 0.356 of a Tomy share for each Takara share (including a split of Tomy's stock), and the companies announced a layoff of 15% of their combined workforce mostly on the Takara side, the term &quot;merger&quot; (as compared to &quot;take-over&quot;) was prominently used in all the official announcements by the two companies, and twisting tiny details into a de facto &quot;takeover&quot; of Takara by Tomy is effectively splitting hairs.<br /> <br /> *'''e-Hobby is owned by Takara (TakaraTomy).'''<br /> :The [[e-HOBBY]] shop is owned by Part One, Ltd. Although the company has had close ties with Takara for decades, the online store also sells toys by other companies, primarily TakaraTomy's rival [[Bandai]].<br /> :The online store ''directly'' owned by TakaraTomy, meanwhile, is [[TakaraTomy Mall]] (formerly Toy Hobby Market).<br /> <br /> ===IDW Publishing===<br /> *'''Hasbro pays IDW to publish comics for them, and profit directly from the comics selling well.'''<br /> :Presumably stemming from the fact that most Transformers ''cartoons'' are commissioned by Hasbro in order to advertise their toys, a lot of fans are under the impression that Hasbro pays IDW Publishing and other licensees to produce ''Transformers'' comics for them. This is the exact opposite of how licensed comics work; IDW pays Hasbro for the privilege of publishing ''Transformers'' comics, and IDW keeps all the profits outside of that licensing fee. As such, Hasbro doesn't have any particular investment in the comics selling well, other than their indirect effects on toy sales and potential negative press caused by &quot;failing&quot; comics; all that matters to Hasbro is that they sell well enough that IDW keep paying for the license.<br /> <br /> *'''The [[Hasbro Universe]] was pushed on IDW by Hasbro.'''<br /> :While Hasbro is mostly hands-off with IDW's comics, one of the terms of the license is that IDW needs to work with Hasbro to do [[To sell toys|occasional promotion]] for new and upcoming toys; this most obviously took place with events such as [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]], [[Combiner Wars (comic)|Combiner Wars]] and [[Titans Return (comic)|Titans Return]] — and, if we're being honest, has resulted in some of the less popular arcs from &quot;phase 2&quot; of IDW.&lt;ref&gt;[[James Roberts]] has apologised on multiple occasions for Dark Cybertron, which says a lot.&lt;/ref&gt; As such, when IDW announced that they were bringing [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|several]] [[Rom|other]] [[Action Man|Hasbro-]][[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|owned]] [[Micronauts|franchises]] into their [[2005 IDW continuity|acclaimed Transformers universe]], a lot of fans assumed that this was the result of another Hasbro mandate, especially given their stated desire to have a &quot;Transformers {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe|Cinematic Universe}}.&quot; It also bore a startling resemblance to the shuttered plans to use the [[Aligned continuity family]] to launch a shared universe, even sharing the name of [[Unit:E]]. However, the creative teams involved were open from the start about the decision being an internal one that IDW had to ask Hasbro for permission to do.<br /> :Reportedly, the decision stemmed from IDW obtaining multiple additional Hasbro licenses, and [[Chris Ryall]] and [[Christos Gage]] suggesting that G.I. Joe appear in their ''ROM'' comic; this led to [[John Barber]] bringing up [[Andrew Griffith]]'s suggestion that IDW's ''G.I. Joe'' universe could fit &quot;between&quot; big ''Transformers'' events, which led to all of them suggesting to [[Cullen Bunn]] that the Earth that the [[Micronaut]]s visited be the ''ROM''/''Transformers''/''G.I. Joe'' one... and, well, it all spiralled from there. Hasbro were apparently very on board with the idea, but it was far from something that they pushed onto unwilling creators.<br /> <br /> *'''The Hasbro Universe comics are responsible for the ending of the 2005 IDW continuity.'''<br /> :Given that IDW announced that they were concluding their [[2005 IDW continuity|main continuity]] less than two years after the VERY controversial Hasbro Universe was first announced, a lot of fans were under the impression that the shared universe, and the relaunch of [[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|''The Transformers'']] and [[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|''More than Meets the Eye'']] into ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' and [[The Transformers: Lost Light|''Lost Light'']], were responsible for tanking sales to the point that IDW decided that it would be more profitable to reboot.<br /> :However, the reason that those titles were relaunched in the ''first'' place is that their sales were on an unsustainable downwards spiral; and, other than a brief sales spike for the [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|first]] [[New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|issues]] of the relaunched series, the relaunch did pretty much nothing to the sales trends, which continued to decrease at the same level as they had from around the 51st issues to the relaunch.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/670-general-comics-discussion/page-60#entry3661883 Sales chart of the Phase 2 IDW ongoings]&lt;/ref&gt; While the Hasbro Universe titles generally didn't sell ''great'', they didn't affect the sales of the ongoing ''Transformers'' series.<br /> <br /> *'''Chris Ryall was kicked out of IDW because he conspired to break Hasbro mandates.'''<br /> :He ''really'' wasn't, guys. In fact, he was [http://hasbrouniverse.libsyn.com/interview-chris-ryall outright surprised by the idea that this was a rumor going around].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist|2}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20121116134912/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 Ten popular but incorrect rumors about Japanese Transformers, retrieved November 16, 2012] (archived)<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Fandom]]<br /> [[Category:Lists]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers&diff=1598108 Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers 2022-03-14T01:47:38Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Unicron Trilogy misconceptions */</p> <hr /> <div>Over the years, many '''misconceptions and urban legends''' have sprung up within ''Transformers'' [[fandom]], often resulting from such factors as fuzzy childhood memories, inaccurate catalog illustrations, and mistranslations of foreign material.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==General misconceptions==<br /> *'''''Transformers'' is (only) a cartoon from the Eighties that was brought back into vogue with the 2007 movie.'''<br /> <br /> : A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that ''Transformers'' went away some time around 1986 (or 1987, or 1988—pick your year). People who stumbled across a newer incarnation of the ''Transformers'' franchise before 2007 commonly assumed that it had only recently popped back up as an attempt to cash in on '80s nostalgia. From 2007 onwards, people who were (obviously) aware of the [[live-action film series]] commonly believed that it was the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]] that brought the franchise back from limbo. Neither assumption is correct.<br /> <br /> :In fact, the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]] has been continuous since 1984 (there was a brief gap between 1990 and 1993 as far as the United States market was concerned, but the brand still continued with new products in other markets). It includes many [[Franchises|lines of toys, cartoons and comics]] that span almost four decades, with no sign of stopping, as Hasbro considers it a core brand. Each line has experienced varying degrees of success, rebooting when its target audience gets too old or uninterested in the toyline and fiction. <br /> <br /> :Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise long before its initial US cancellation (as it wasn't &quot;cool&quot; to be kiddy once puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that ''Transformers'' has sunk in popularity, quality and/or sales, since it's not what they remember. <br /> <br /> :It ''is'' true that ''Transformers'' hit a low point of popularity in the early 1990s, with the cancelation of Generation 1 and the unremarkable sales of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. But the successor ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' line re-established the brand for a new generation beginning in 1996, and ''Transformers'' has been a dominant toy franchise ever since. While it's true that the live-action movies caused a major hike in popularity for the brand, they didn't revive a long-forgotten franchise; rather, they merely turned a steadily successful toy series into a major worldwide multimedia phenomenon.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Generation 1 obviously has the best toys, cartoons and characters.'''<br /> <br /> :Casual fans likewise tend to assume automatically that the original 1980s iteration of ''Transformers'' is the best and most successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.<br /> <br /> :While it's hard to measure the overall success of every line in all its aspects, the original line has been surpassed in both quality and sales multiple times over (if not for warm-fuzzy nostalgia-feels in 80s kids). In factors such as realistic alternate forms, durability, articulation, action features, and complexity, various later toylines have all exceeded Generation 1. And while fiction can't be measured objectively, many fans will swear up and down by some of the later incarnations of ''Transformers''.<br /> <br /> :Arguably, ''Transformers'' is in an endless cycle of creating [[true fan|new fans who share new opinions on what is &quot;teh greatest&quot;]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SteamhammerEnergonUniverse.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Not literally a waste of packaging material.]]<br /> *'''&quot;Repackaged&quot; toys are ''literally'' unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of the old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to stores.'''<br /> <br /> :Every so often, a ''Transformers'' toy line features seemingly identical toys in multiple different [[packaging]] versions, such as multi-packs containing toys that were previously available separately. In addition, some toy lines also feature [[rebranding|rebranded]] items, namely toys that were originally released under one line, but are later re-released as part of another line with virtually no changes to the toy itself, only the packaging it is available in. The final stages of the original ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line took the concept of &quot;rebranding&quot; to a new level, featuring numerous straight re-releases of toys from the since-ended ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' lines, among many others. Since then, it has been repeated with the 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' line, the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, the 2010 ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' line and many others. Because a common [[fandom]] term for those releases is &quot;repackages&quot;, a popular misconception claims that those toys are ''literally'' &quot;repackages&quot;: namely, unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of their old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to (different) stores. (The same train of thought also—very rarely—suggests that &quot;repaints&quot;, another common fan term for [[redeco]]s, are ''literally'' &quot;[[repaint]]s&quot;, i.e. existing toys painted over in new colors, rather than new production runs from the same toolings using new plastic colors.)<br /> <br /> :Needless to say, this theory is dubious for various reasons. Generally, old unsold toys are ''not'' sent back to Hasbro. They either [[Shelfwarmer|remain in the store]] until someone finally decides to buy them, or the store somehow dumps them, such as by selling them off to closeout chains. And even ''if'' Hasbro did regularly get sent back huge shipments of unsold toys, they'd be highly unlikely to go through the effort (and additional cost) of literally repackaging them. Hasbro confirmed this in January of 2009, stating that due to the toys being manufactured in Asia, it would be a waste of time and money to repackage them only to sell them at the same price-point.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&amp;p2_articleid=1934 SirStevesGuide.com, Tri-Weekly Hasbro Q&amp;A - January 30th]&lt;/ref&gt; Thus, they are ''not'' repackaged old product, but new production runs of previous product. These days, this misconception should be much easier to dispel: Every toy now features a manufacturing date stamp etched into the figure, as well as a product code [[tampograph]]ed onto the figure, thus proving that a figure was manufactured more recently than its superficially identical predecessor.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:SmokesniperStarscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|The similarities are astounding. Especially those that aren't there.]]<br /> *'''A new toy that is vaguely reminiscent of an older toy is a retool of said toy.'''<br /> <br /> :Hasbro likes to [[redeco]] toys a lot (usually to recoup the R&amp;D costs for developing the original [[mold]]). They also like to release redecos of toys from older lines in newer lines. In some instances, Hasbro also don't just redeco a toy, they [[retool]] it (or create new toolings for new parts that replace parts of the old version of the toy)—sometimes to improve a feature or fix an error, but sometimes also to give the toy new features or [[gimmick]]s, or simply to make it different enough from the original version so owners of the original version would be interested in buying the &quot;retool&quot; as well.<br /> <br /> :Some of those retools are comparably minor (such as [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] from the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]]), whereas others can be pretty elaborate. Sometimes the retools are so elaborate that the line between &quot;retool&quot; and &quot;new [[mold]]&quot; gets blurred. The most drastic instances in this regard would be [[K-9]] from ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' (based on [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] from the same line) and [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]] from ''Cybertron'' (based on the original ''Cybertron'' Crumplezone toy), both of which have most, if not ''all'' of their parts entirely retooled. Another borderline case would be the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con]]s [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], which were released around the same time and are based on the same basic design, share a similar body structure and have very similar [[alternate mode]]s.<br /> <br /> :However, sometimes fans ''definitely'' get too far decrying a new toy a &quot;retool&quot; (or &quot;remold&quot;). Toys that share some superficial design similarities, coupled with similar transformation schemes, are often mistaken for retools even though they're simply that: Similar toys based on the same general design, maybe even directly influenced by the older toy, but nothing more. For more examples, see: [[retool#Not actually a retool|retool]].<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''Hasbro is responsible for your local store not having the newest toys right now.'''<br /> <br /> : Hasbro actually has almost nothing to do with distribution (when Product A arrives in Store B) beyond making sure the manufactured product leaves the factories and shipyards of China at the desired time. Once the items arrive on US shores, they are almost immediately sent from the ships to the distribution centers for the retail chains that ordered them. From there, it's more truck rides to various regional warehouses, which is all controlled by the retailers, not Hasbro. After that, the schedule for taking product from those warehouses and putting it on shelves is dictated by each chain's inventory system.<br /> <br /> : It's ''conceivable'' that Hasbro could take more control of the situation, but that would require chains like Wal-Mart to release the vise-like death grip they have on manufacturers' nuts that lets them dictate how the system works—and they're sooooooo not doing that.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Older collectors}}<br /> *'''Hasbro should totally cater to the wishes of older collectors, as they purchase the most ''Transformers'' product.'''<br /> <br /> : Fans would like to think they've got some sway over the direction of the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. After all, they've been buying toys for many years (as opposed to the limited purchasing span of most children), and they buy many ''more'' toys than any individual child. And in truth, Hasbro does pay attention to the desires and discussions of its older buyers, even designing certain line segments like ''Alternators'' or ''Classics'' and its successors with collectors as the primary target audience.<br /> <br /> : Collectors, however, simply can't compare to the vast numbers of children out there whose parents buy [[Transformer]]s for them. The bulk of ''Transformers'' product is purchased for and/or by young children, and if a company like Hasbro wants to stay in business and keep making money (and by extension, more toys), it must design and market its products accordingly. No accurate figures exist on the collector/children ratio, but estimates mentioned at BotCon panels range from around 10% to 20% of all purchases coming from older collectors—enough to be worth listening to, but not at all the driving force behind the brand. Past toylines have shown that betting ''too much'' on sales from adult collectors can be disastrous.<br /> <br /> : Furthermore, it's not as though the [[fandom|fans]] speak with a unified voice. More often, for every fan pushing for one particular idea, there's another fan who thinks that same idea is boring or [[Ruined FOREVER|awful]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Takara vs. Hasbro===<br /> [[File:Cybertrontoy hasbro and takara vector primes.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Vector Prime]] features different color applications dependent on whether it was released in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] or [[Hasbro]]'s market.]]<br /> *'''Takara (alternatively, Hasbro) are ''solely'' responsible for designing, developing and manufacturing (all, or certain specific) ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> <br /> : This was true only for the original [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toys]], and possibly also the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toys]]. Most of the toys from 1984 to 1986 were imported (and, occasionally, slightly altered) versions of already-existing Japanese toys originally designed and released by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]. Following that, Takara developed new toys both for the Japanese and the Western market, now specifically with ''Transformers'' in mind. The primary exceptions are a handful of toys licensed from other Japanese companies (Jetfire, Whirl, and Roadbuster, for example), and the 1986 toys for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]], which were mostly based on designs by [[Floro Dery]].<br /> <br /> : However, ever since 1988,&lt;ref name=&quot;dunsay&quot;&gt;[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/images/full/BC04Dunsay.jpg BotCon 2004 program guide interview with George Dunsay]&lt;/ref&gt; most &quot;main&quot; line toys released both in Japan and the Western hemisphere (such as the [[Unicron Trilogy]], ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'', the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]] and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]/[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'') have been designed and developed in cooperation between [[Hasbro]] (or its subsidiary [[Kenner]]) and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] (now TakaraTomy). (For the specifics of this joint venture development process, see the article about [[toy]]s.)<br /> <br /> : Still, numerous reasons have led some people to assume incorrectly that ''all'' ''Transformers'' toy lines were ''solely'' developed by only one of the two companies:<br /> <br /> :*The Western public and mainstream media, naturally, tend to be unaware of the existence of Takara (TakaraTomy these days). It's therefore logical to assume that Hasbro, the company responsible for distributing Transformers toys outside Japan, is also solely responsible for developing and manufacturing the toys. The fact that Hasbro regularly chooses not to mention their Japanese business partner in official press releases and interviews hasn't exactly helped matters, either.<br /> <br /> :*On the other hand, Western anime fans are used to Japanese companies being solely responsible for designing robot toys, which are then imported and sold by Western companies. For lack of better knowledge, those people then simply assume the same also applies to ''Transformers'' toys — namely, that Takara does ''all'' the design and engineering work on their own, and Hasbro is merely the Western ''distributor'' of those toys. The fact that the back of Hasbro's packaging for ''Transformers'' toys sports a small note saying &quot;Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd.&quot; (changed to &quot;TOMY Company, Ltd.&quot; on more recent toys) is occasionally cited as &quot;proof&quot; that Takara is the sole manufacturer of ''Transformers'' toys as well. A long paper trail of evidence to the contrary&lt;ref name=&quot;Hasbro Tour&quot;&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=70&amp;size=0&amp;start=272 Exemplary rundown] of the development process of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], shown during the Hasbro tour at [[BotCon 2007]]. Of course, Hasbro just replaced the name &quot;Takara&quot; in some of the steps with &quot;Hasbro&quot; in order to convince fans that... yeah, riiiight.&lt;/ref&gt; has not been able to convince those people of the flaws in their conspiracy theory — rather, some of them have even postulated the existence of a so-called &quot;Hasbro PR machine&quot;, whose sole purpose is to convince ''Transformers'' fans that Hasbro has a larger part in the development of ''Transformers'' toys than is actually the case.&lt;ref name=&quot;Propaganda&quot;&gt;[http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,88668 ToyBoxDX thread with anime fanboys arguing that &quot;Takara is an enormous toy '''manufacturing''' company. Hasbro doesn't manufacturer anything. The sole reason for its existence is for marketing the products of their partners and wholly-owned subs. Just to be clear here - Takara is bigger than Hasbro.&quot;] They wouldn't even believe that [[Joe Kyde]] actually worked at Hasbro. No kidding.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : That being said, there ''are'' indeed a few toys originally developed by either Hasbro or Takara without the other one's involvement, and then later picked up by the other company, but they're fewer than usually assumed: For Takara, those include the new molds for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1998 (Beast Wars II)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1999 (Beast Wars Neo)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'', plus various mostly short-lived, collector-aimed, niche market lines (such as the new ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' molds, the ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'', the ''[[Hybrid Style]]'' toys etc.); for Hasbro, those are mostly either toys originally based on fiction-based franchises that did not originate with Hasbro (such as ''[[Animorphs]]'' or the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars Transformers]]'' and their later successor, ''[[Transformers: Crossovers]]''), cross-brand lines ''within'' Hasbro where the Transformers toys only make up one part of the overall lineup (such as the [[Titanium Series]] and the [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) and a few very rare &quot;main&quot; line Transformers toys such as the ''Generation 2'' [[Power Master]]s and [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]], [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], [[Alpha Quintesson]], [[Kicker Jones#Toys|Energon Kicker]] and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''.<br /> <br /> *'''Takara's Japanese-market releases are always of intrinsically better quality than their U.S. counterparts. (E.g., they have sweeter exclusives, and are always more show-accurate, have more accessories, and have tighter quality control.)'''<br /> <br /> : This one depends a bit on the speaker, as it can either be a genuine misconception, a matter of opinion, or at worst, [[Personal canon|willful]] [[True fan|snobbery]]. But, like any broad generalization, it does have some basis.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Better quality&quot; can refer to the fact that Japanese versions of individual toys sometimes have clear plastic instead of painted-on windows like [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Movie Bumblebee]], or have vac-metallized parts where the equivalent U.S. release doesn't, like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Energon'' Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy]]. Or, &quot;better&quot; quality can refer to the fact that Japan is a less litigious society, with different toy safety laws, and Takara can thus give [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Prime]] toys old-school long smokestacks, which are now shortened in the U.S. [[for safety reasons]]. These laws also mean that [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Megatron]] is freely available in Japan, but hard to get in the U.S. (the exact opposite of ''real'' handguns, ironically). In the various forms of [[CHUG]], Takara releases also consistently boast more paint applications (for example, many ''[[Unite Warriors]]'' figures had painted hubcaps while their ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' counterparts went without), something that was ironically reversed in their version of the [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Takara Prime toyline|''Prime'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] decos&quot; does have some basis, as Takara frequently releases its toys later than Hasbro does Stateside, and thus they are better able to reflect discrepancies between late-run changes to a character's coloration in a show (such as with the original [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] or [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|''Armada'''s Tidal Wave]]). The most extreme example of this was ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)#2005 (Beast Wars Returns)|Beast Wars Returns]]'', the Japanese release of ''Beast Machines'', which was ''years'' later than in the U.S., allowing Takara to add a lot of the deco that was added to the characters by [[Mainframe Entertainment]] that was not accurate to the original toys.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More accessories&quot; mostly comes from the fact that ''some'' of Takara's releases have some extra accessories, but the only cases of this before the reissues were [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s two [[sword]]s, Megatron's sword and bullets (even though the Japanese release lacked the barrel, scope and stock extensions) and clear cases from the various cassettes. Japanese reissues have included additional accessories from the cartoon (the axe, chain mace, Energon cubes and gun mode Megatron in the ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' reissues of Optimus and Megatron, Insecticons and Starscream, respectively, the Matrix from New Year's Convoy). Some ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Super Link]]'' releases came with [[redeco]]ed [[Energon weapon]]s as well. ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Hot Shot (G1)|Hot Rod]] came with two missile launchers and missiles not included with ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Universe .282008.29|Hot Shot]] due to budget constraints, and featured the original tooling for the rear bumper for their inclusion. In contrast, ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Lambor]] was ''lacking'' the supercharger engine accessory ''Universe'' Sideswipe came with—TakaraTomy officially confirmed that they had ''deliberately omitted the accessory'' to make the toy more &quot;G1-accurate&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;generations2009&quot;&gt;Interview with Hisashi Yuki in [[Transformers Generations 2009|''Transformers Generations 2009'' vol. 1]], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/223379-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-2009-vol-1-translation.html English translation] at TFW2005.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Sweeter exclusives&quot; is really a matter of taste. If endless redecos of Generation 1 toys as completely unprecedented Generation 1 characters, buying $40 worth of toys you got a month ago for a single [[Mini-Con]], and shelling out half your mortgage for [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] gold chrome figures is what floats your boat, then yeah, Japan has better exclusives.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Tighter [[quality control]]&quot; is a total myth. Takara products are manufactured under much the same production conditions as Hasbro's: Pretty much everything for both markets is made in China—in fact, according to Hasbro [[Australia]] representatives and Hasbro designer [[Eric Siebenaler]], ''all'' of the Transformers toys jointly developed between Hasbro and Takara/TakaraTomy are manufactured at factories contracted to the Japanese toy company. This means Takara is (at least indirectly) responsible for whatever quality control problems occur with Hasbro-released toys. Takara's standards of quality control for their domestically-released toys are just as likely to let mistakes creep through. Just ask any buyer of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Thundercracker]] how well his weapons stay attached to the arms. And let's not even get started on ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Convoy's]] first production run.<br /> <br /> :*The fields in which Takara genuinely excels Hasbro are comparably minor: Takara's [[stock photography]] generally tends to be more impressive than Hasbro's, without obvious mistransformations and awkward poses, and at the same time looks more representative of the actual toy due to less reliance on blatant digital touch-ups. Likewise, Takara's [[instructions]] tend to be more detailed and useful than Hasbro's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Hasbro lost the rights to a lot of G1 Transformers names. That is why you see toys named &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot; or &quot;Decepticon Brawl&quot; these days. Takara is more competent than Hasbro and doesn't need to change their toys' names.'''<br /> <br /> :That's not quite how name rights —aka [[trademark]]— work. There are indeed instances where another company has snatched a trademark, making it unavailable for Hasbro's use. The reason is because trademarks need to be consistently used in commerce (roughly once every year or so), or it could be considered &quot;abandoned&quot;, making it open for grabs should another company try to claim it. &quot;[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]]&quot; was unavailable to [[Hasbro]] because Mattel held several similar trademarks, &quot;[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]&quot; was too similar to Gendron's &quot;Toledo 'Blue Streak'&quot; trademark, and a company named Lanard held the trademark &quot;Shockwave&quot; until 2005. This prompted Hasbro to use substitute names for toys based on these characters, such as &quot;Rodimus Major&quot; and &quot;Rodimus&quot; for Hot Rod, &quot;Silverstreak&quot; for Bluestreak and &quot;Shockblast&quot; for Shockwave (Hasbro has since managed to reacquire all three aforementioned trademarks).<br /> <br /> :Meanwhile, the names with prefixes such as &quot;Autobot&quot; or &quot;Decepticon&quot;? Those are usually non-compound single real words from the English language. Hasbro's legal department considers them too &quot;generic&quot; to be easily defensible as trademarks, hence the addition of prefixes such as &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot;, &quot;Decepticon Brawl &quot;or &quot;Constructicon Devastator&quot; for better protection. This does ''not'' work with names already trademarked by another company–otherwise, [[Bandai]] could release a toy named &quot;Gunpla Optimus Prime&quot; tomorrow, and Hasbro couldn't do anything about it.<br /> <br /> :For a while, it seemed like these trademark quibbles were limited to Hasbro, and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] was somehow exempt due to a different market situation. However, the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' line saw the emergence of quite a few &quot;Cybertron&quot;, &quot;Destron&quot; and &quot;[[Stunticon (G1)|Stuntron]]&quot; prefixes, implying that the trademark situation on the Japanese market was changing, and starting with the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|''Movie'' line]], TakaraTomy (now adopting Hasbro names instead of their established Japanese-market names) began to use &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; prefixes. With ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Transformers United|United]]'', TakaraTomy even used prefixes for names Hasbro has been able to use ''without'' prefixes.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Generation 1 Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''A super-rare blue variant of Bluestreak was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:G1 Bluestreak boxart.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|You had this as a kid. The picture, that is. Not the toy.]]<br /> :The very earliest [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] toy [[catalog]]s used a photo of a blue-sided ''[[Diaclone]]'' Fairlady Z to represent [[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]; photographs of the same toy were used for Bluestreak's own [[Instructions|instruction booklet]]. The same blue-sided color scheme was also used on his [[Package art|box art]]; which was in turn shown on ''every'' 1984 instruction booklet as a sample tech spec.<br /> :All this gave rise to a long-standing myth that a blue Bluestreak toy was sold under the ''Transformers'' brand during Generation 1, with some people going so far as to &quot;remember&quot; owning blue Bluestreaks as children, or at least knowing someone else who did. Adding to the confusion, ''{{w|ToyFare}}'' magazine had a long history of listing the supposed blue Bluestreak as a &quot;foreign [[variant]]&quot; in its monthly price guide.<br /> :However, actual samples of a blue-sided Bluestreak in a sealed ''Transformers'' box have ''never'' appeared, and the [[Karl Hartman|collectors who have been at it since the very beginning]] and [[Jon Hartman|amassed ''insane'' numbers of rare Transformers]] have never seen one.<br /> : Oddly enough, numerous other Transformers toys from that era were depicted in both catalogues and packaging art with colors they were never released in —[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], for example— yet Bluestreak is the only one to be (mis)remembered in this manner, perhaps because his name is ''Blue''streak, so he had to have been blue, right?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some Generation 1 toy molds were in use as long ago as 1974.'''<br /> :Some ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]''-derived toys have the text &quot;©1974 TAKARA&quot; stamped on them, and as a result are occasionally sold on eBay with descriptions such as &quot;original 1974 [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&quot;. However, the date 1974 refers to the introduction of the original ''[[Microman]]'' franchise due to the way Japanese IP law worked at the time; the first ''Microchange'' toys weren't even designed until the early 1980s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost.'''<br /> :Both the ''[[The Transformers Collection]]'' and ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] releases have different tape buttons and hinges than the ones found on the vintage Hasbro release. While the vintage Hasbro Soundwave had inset controls and an internal tape deck hinge, the Takara reissues have a large button block that serves as a pivot point for an external tape deck hinge. The supposed reason for this is the mold for the original versions of the buttons and door are lost or worn out, so a new single tape door was made to work with the Soundblaster mold.<br /> :In fact, the buttons and hinge used on the reissue Soundwaves were originally a [[retool]]ed running change [[variant]] of Takara's original 1985 release of Soundwave. The further Soundblaster retool was based on the later Japanese version of Soundwave, as were the reissues. Presumably, the original mold in its original condition ''is'' lost - but this happened ''long'' before Takara retooled Soundwave into Soundblaster.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Jetfire-Dutch.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Oddly enough, Optimus Prime can still be seen in the background.]]<br /> *'''Optimus Prime's toy was originally not released in Europe due to a trademark conflict.'''<br /> <br /> :When Hasbro subsidiary [[Milton Bradley]] launched the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|''Transformers'' line]] on the European continent in 1985, many prominent characters were missing, among them [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Optimus Prime]]. Bizarrely, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was branded as the Autobot leader, and depicted as such in [[In the Transformers|a pack-in mini-comic]]. Furthermore, Dutch publisher [[Junior Press]] initially renamed Optimus Prime into &quot;Jetfire&quot; for all his appearances in their translated versions of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comic]]. Optimus Prime's toy was eventually released with the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'', and the Junior Press comics subsequently referred to him by his correct name.<br /> <br /> :The reason for Optimus Prime's initial omission from the MB line-up was claimed to be due to a [[trademark]] conflict with Swedish kitchen utensil manufacturer &quot;[http://www.optimusstoves.com/ Optimus]&quot;. Though initially accepted by the fandom, this claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny. A manufacturer of kitchen utensils ''usually'' does not operate in the &quot;toys&quot; field, thus making a trademark conflict unlikely to begin with. An editor's note in the Junior Press comic trying to explain the &quot;Optimus&quot;/&quot;Jetfire&quot; name situation claimed that the ''Transformers'' were originally ''two'' toy lines by different manufacturers in the United States, and MB had only released ''one'' of them in the Netherlands, while the &quot;[[copyright]]&quot; to the name &quot;Optimus Prime&quot; belonged to the other manufacturer. Which is of course horsehockey. Many years later, this editor's note (including the incorrect use of the term &quot;copyright&quot; rather than &quot;trademark&quot;) was cited by a Dutch fan who added his own speculation (without marking it as such), thus spawning the urban myth that was subsequently accepted by the fandom.&lt;ref name=&quot;optimusdutch&quot;&gt;[http://www.fredsworkshop.com/veuro2.html The origin (?) of the &quot;Optimus trademark conflict in Europe&quot; rumor?] at The Complete Transformers Variants Page&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation lies in that French company [[Joustra]] released their own version of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' line in many of the same markets as Milton Bradley's ''Transformers''. The theory suggests that because of Joustra's exclusive contract with [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], any toys from their ''Diaclone'' line-up were initially off-limits for Milton Bradley's ''Transformers'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofive&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-5/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 5&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt; A related theory suggests that Joustra's parent company, Ceji, got into financial trouble at the time, prompting them to sign a deal with Milton Bradley allowing them to use their existing (but still unsold) ''Diaclone'' stock released in ''Transformers'' packaging, which could explain why the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'' matches up almost perfectly with Joustra's ''Diaclone'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofour&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-4/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 4&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The Generation 1 Seacon Overbite was released under the name &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; in some European markets.'''<br /> [[File:JawbreakerComic.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|UK comic exclusive name variant!]]<br /> :In [[Enemy Action!|issue 152]] of the Marvel UK comics, the first appearance of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] is called &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;, a name repeated in his appearance in [[Salvage!|issue 160]] and in an &quot;A to Z&quot; profile in &quot;[[Transformers Annual 1989]]&quot;. In the early days of online fandom, American fans concluded that this must mean that the toy had been released under a different name in Europe—which is not ''entirely'' unfounded, as Transformers often got renamed in Canada and Italy, and many European-market toys from the post-US-cancellation line had multiple names, dependent on what country they were released in.<br /> :However, European fans claimed the toy was called &quot;Overbite&quot; when released in their respective countries (except for Italy, where [[GiG]] actually didn't release the Seacons ''at all''). Furthermore, the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] in [[City of Fear!|issue #164]] of the UK comic features a question by a confused (British) reader about the &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; name, since the UK-release toy was apparently indeed called &quot;Overbite&quot; (resulting in a made-up-on-the-spot explanation from the Marvel staff to reconcile both names). Adding to the confusion was the letters page in [[A Savage Circle|issue #327]] from late 1991, which stated that Jawbreaker was his British name and Overbite his American name. By this time the toy was no longer on sale and the character had long disappeared from the comic. Apparently whoever answered letters at this point was not well-informed.<br /> :So, why ''did'' the story identify the character as &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;? The answer was unknown until 2016, when a couple of early internal [[character model|model sheets]] were offered on [[eBay]]: Overbite's model sheet has his name crossed out, with &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; written below it.&lt;ref name=&quot;modelsheets&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/93711-more-unseen-tftm-designs-plus-some-early-colors-and-some-show-design/?p=3191211 Early model sheets] at The Allspark.&lt;/ref&gt; Since the same batch of model sheets also refers to the [[Sparkabot]]s as &quot;Sparkler Minibots&quot;, another naming anomaly for the Marvel UK comics (and some translations thereof), Marvel UK writer [[Simon Furman]] may have used these model sheets (or similar reference materials) with the non-final names on them. The Overbite toy's instructions still refer to his ''weapon'' as a &quot;Jawbreaker cannon&quot;, and his weapon mode for Piranacon is called a &quot;Jawbreaker weapon&quot; in the assembly instructions.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available only in the United Kingdom/Netherlands.'''<br /> :During the early days of the Transformers online fandom, most of the active European fans in English-language forums were based in the UK and Netherlands. So when information about non-US toys (or toy variants) was spread, there simply were no fans from Germany or France around to confirm that the toys in question had also been officially available in their respective countries. (Although to be fair, it's quite possible that some toys, such as the [[Milton Bradley]]-branded Generation 1 toys, were indeed released in bigger quantities in the Netherlands than in Germany or France.)&lt;ref name=&quot;mbpart6&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-6/ &quot;MB Transformers: Part 6&quot;] at 20th Century Toy Collector.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :As a result, numerous toys like the red [[Tracks (G1)#Toys|Tracks]] and [[IGA]] Mexican-market Transformers (imported under dubious circumstances) got labeled as &quot;Netherlands-only&quot;, when they actually saw release in at least a half-dozen countries. Meanwhile, post-US-cancellation Transformers like the [[Action Master Elite]]s, &quot;[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]&quot; reissues, [[Turbomaster]]s, [[Obliterator]]s, etc, were (and sometimes still are) often referred to as &quot;UK exclusives&quot;, even though all of them were available in multiple countries, including Canada and Australia!<br /> :In reality, there are ''very'' few toys actually exclusive to a single European country. The first ''genuine'' &quot;UK exclusives&quot; were a set of multi-packs from the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live action movie]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toyline]], but the toys themselves were identical to the US releases. Meanwhile, other multi-packs or minor variants of toys from the 2007 movie toyline that were available in the UK but not the US were also available in other places, such as Japan, Hong Kong, Australia or other European countries again.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''A green variant of Trailbreaker was available in some European countries.'''<br /> :This belief seems to stem from the fact that [[IGA]]'s Mexican version of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (which, like most Mexican Transformers, was widely available on the European gray market circa 1989, as mentioned above) used the same head sculpt as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. But like the &quot;Blue&quot; Bluestreak, no samples of an actual green version of the Trailbreaker mold actually sold ''as'' &quot;Trailbreaker&quot; have been found.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====''Generation 2''====<br /> *'''The ''Generation 2'' Autobot and Decepticon insignias were originally created by Hasbro UK, whose license for using the original faction insignias owned by Hasbro US had expired.'''<br /> :The first half is ''maybe'' true, the second half certainly isn't. Long story short: While the new Autobot and Decepticon faction [[insignia]]s were popularized by the ''Generation 2'' line, said line didn't start in Europe until 1994, a year later than in the US. Instead, the ''Transformers'' brand had continued in Europe even after its cancellation in the United States in 1990 (see the page for the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]] for more details), and new European-&quot;exclusive&quot; figures were still being released in 1993, many of which were later re-released in [[rebranding|rebranded]] ''Generation 2'' packaging in Europe in 1994, while some of them were also made available (including some color, name and faction changes) under the ''Generation 2'' line in the United States in 1993. It was those designed-for-Europe 1993 pre-''Generation 2'' figures that had first featured the new Autobot and Decepticon insignias on their packaging, and a popular myth claims that they had become a necessity for the European market due to Hasbro UK and Hasbro US being legally considered distinct entities under international law, and Hasbro UK alternatively didn't want to continue paying their parent company the fee for being allowed to use these symbols, or the license for using them had expired.&lt;ref name=&quot;euhist&quot;&gt;[https://tfarchive.com/fandom/features/thirtieth-anniversary/?s=countdown-04-european-history &quot;European History&quot;] at The Transformers Archive.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The holes in this theory are legion: First of all, considering the trademark for the name &quot;The Transformers&quot; was registered with the UK Patent Office by Hasbro UK back in 1986, shouldn't the same also apply to the faction insignias? Therefore, how could Hasbro US, assuming it was indeed a distinct entity, enforce trademarks it hadn't registered in the UK? Why exactly would the UK Patent Office be enforcing the trademarks of a (supposedly) foreign company that didn't do business in the UK? In fact, why would ''anyone'' be enforcing trademark claims against Hasbro UK on behalf of Hasbro US? And why would this affect only the faction insignias? Wouldn't the names &quot;Transformers&quot;, &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; be equally subject to those alleged licensing fees?<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation is that the faction insignias were changed for the same reason the &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo was changed to a new version (both in the US and Europe) in 1989, along with a major redesign of the toys' packaging, and why there had been another change to the packaging design and &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo for the European releases in 1992: To &quot;refresh&quot; the overall presentation of the brand, making everyhing look &quot;new&quot; and different for marketing reasons. Now whether the new insignias were originally created by Hasbro US for the ''Generation 2'' line and were simply applied to the European 1993 toys first for the sake of consistency, or whether they had indeed been created by Hasbro UK and Hasbro US just liked them so much they decided to adopt them for the ''Generation 2'' line is up for debate.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====''Alternators''====<br /> *'''A yellow version of ''Alternators'' Tracks was released to North American stores (but then recalled by Hasbro).'''<br /> <br /> [[File:YellowTracks.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|Only in Japan, baby.]]<br /> :When [[Hasbro]] (and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) originally announced the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] in 2004, the toy's [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode's]] primary color was yellow. This caused the ire of a significant portion of the fandom, which insisted that the toy had to be ''blue'', like its [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] predecessor.<br /> :Hasbro eventually confirmed at [[OTFCC 2004]] that the initial idea had been to release the toy in yellow first, and then later as a running change [[variant]] in blue, like Takara would ultimately do. However, Hasbro had encountered problems at the test shot stage, where it became evident that some of the toy's innards were shining through the yellow plastic. As a result, plans for a release of the yellow version were scrapped, and it was decided to release the blue version from the get-go.<br /> :Rumors started circulating that some stores (usually [[Walmart]]) had indeed received a shipment of the toy, but were then asked by Hasbro to send back the entire batch. Naturally, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up these claims. And while toys may occasionally be recalled [[for safety reasons]], it's highly doubtful that &quot;aesthetics&quot; would be enough of a reason to warrant an expensive product recall.<br /> :The only &quot;packaged&quot; versions of a yellow ''Alternators'' Tracks we ever got to see were internet pranks of the &quot;yellow ''Binaltech'' Tracks in photoshopped Hasbro box&quot; variety. Which, of course, didn't help matters at all.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:WindchargerOverdrive.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Castrated at the request of Honda.]]<br /> *'''Hasbro omitted ''Alternators'' Windcharger's gun barrel for safety reasons.'''<br /> <br /> : When the first stolen [[Prototype|test shots]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Windcharger (G1)#Alternators|Windcharger]] surfaced in 2004, the toy sported an extraordinarily long gun barrel (which doubled as the [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]'s drive shaft). The toy was ultimately released without the barrel, which was not shown or mentioned anywhere on the packaging or in the instructions. Indeed, Windcharger's weapon accessory was officially identified as a &quot;shield&quot; on the back of the packaging (in addition to the actual, ragtop roof shield). [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], on the other hand, later released their own ''Binaltech'' version of the toy (named [[Overdrive]]) with the full barrel, prominently shown in the official promotional photos.<br /> <br /> :The initial fan theory upon seeing the barrel-less toy was that Hasbro had gutted it for safety reasons, under the notion that the long barrel might pose a choking hazard. Even though this was refuted by actual experts on toy safety standards, the rumor still persisted. An official response from Hasbro's customer service department to an e-mail inquiry (published on a fan site's message board) confirmed that the reason for the barrel's omission was &quot;so the accessory would not look like a weapon&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Windcharger gun barrel&quot;&gt;&quot;http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=13088 Response from Hasbro's customer service department regarding the lack of Alternators Windcharger's gun barrel.&lt;/ref&gt; Eventually, Hasbro (in the presence of Takara representatives) would confirm the full story at [[BotCon 2005]]: It had indeed been Honda, specifically their North American branch, that had asked to remove the gun barrel and all references to &quot;weapons&quot; from the toy, its packaging and included paperwork. Honda's Japanese department, on the other hand, had no such concerns, which is why Takara were able to release the ''Binaltech'' version with the barrel intact.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Masterpiece''====<br /> *'''''Masterpiece'' Convoy 1.0 has more diecast parts than 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime/''Masterpiece'' Convoy is made almost entirely out of diecast/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime is made entirely out of plastic.'''<br /> :This misconception was started by now defunct Hong Kong-based online retailer Action-HQ&lt;ref name=&quot;plasticahq&quot;&gt;[http://tformers.com/transformers-20th-anniversary-optimus-prime-plastic/2150/news.html &quot;20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Plastic?&quot;], November 2003.&lt;/ref&gt; and ''might'' have been extrapolated from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' toys, which are made entirely out of plastic (except for the rubber tires) for their Hasbro releases, whereas their Japanese ''Binaltech'' counterparts feature a few parts made out of [[die-cast|die-cast metal]].<br /> :In fact, however, the amount of die-cast metal parts versus injection-[[mold]]ed plastic parts is the same between 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and his Japanese ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Convoy counterpart. The only differences between the two toys (not counting the packaging) are the shortened smokestacks for Hasbro's 20th Prime and the addition of painted battle damage that is missing from the Takara version.<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Collection''====<br /> [[File:G1 Vol.1 Issue2 1.jpg|thumb|upright=0.55|A solicitation of then upcoming Takara reissues? Not really.]]<br /> *'''Takara's ''Transformers Collection'' had something to do with Dreamwave.'''<br /> :In 2002, Takara launched their series of [[Generation 1 reissues]] named ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'', also commonly referred to as &quot;bookbox reissues&quot; or even &quot;Dreamwave reissues&quot; among fans. The reason for that is simple: The [[package art]], especially for early releases such as [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Meister]] or [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]], was directly taken from the covers of and promotional posters for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave's]] first ''[[Prime Directive|Generation One]]'' mini-series drawn by [[Pat Lee]]. A common misconception among fans at that time was that Takara was coordinating their reissues with Dreamwave. Some even tried to predict upcoming reissues based on the existing Dreamwave covers. Yet [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys|Sunstreaker]] never materialized.<br /> <br /> :In fact, probably the main reason why Takara recycled Pat's Dreamwave artwork of those characters for the [[packaging]] of their reissues was its coincidental availability: The artwork had already been created and paid for, so why commission new art when they could just use what already exists? Furthermore, only about half of the TFC reissues actually sported &quot;Dreamwave&quot; package art, whereas the rest ''did'' use newly-commissioned art drawn by Japanese artist [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who has never in his life worked for Dreamwave and had been drawing in this style long before Pat Lee rose to his brief &quot;superstar artist&quot; fame.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Generations''====<br /> *'''The &quot;Generation 1&quot; characters featured in ''[[Studio Series]]'' are branded under the &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; subline.'''<br /> :This myth originates from leaked Walmart listings appending &quot;86&quot; to the end of the toyline's name, which led to the misunderstanding that the ''The Transformers: The Movie'' characters sold in ''Studio Series'' are branded differently from the rest of the line (an unaware editor on {{SITENAME_SHORT}} may have helped propagate this misconception).<br /> <br /> :Aside from having the &quot;86&quot; prefix on their ID numbers, the ''Studio Series'' G1 characters are branded exactly the same as the live-action film characters sold alongside them. However, the term &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; has stuck around as [[fandom]] terminology for those wanting to distinguish between the two continuities sold within the same toyline.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''The Transformers cartoon''====<br /> *'''The original ''The Transformers'' series was redubbed anime which originated in Japan, just like ''Battle of the Planets'', ''Voltron'', ''Robotech'' and other such shows screened in the '80s.'''<br /> : Although most moderate-to-hardcore fans are well aware that this is a fallacy, there are those more casual fans (or those who have not rewatched the original ''Transformers'' cartoon since childhood) who are under the misconception that [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'']] was an anime.<br /> : Although the original toyline and thus the characters' basic visual designs were taken from Japanese-originated products, the original characters, names, factions and entire story premise of the whole ''Transformers'' franchise were developed in the United States by [[Hasbro]], [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and eventually [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]]. Although the animation was farmed out to [[Toei|Japanese]] (and later also [[AKOM|Korean]]) [[TMS Entertainment|studios]], the writing and original voice recording of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|all four seasons of the original series]] plus ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'' was entirely done in America.<br /> : This misconception probably stems from distant childhood memories of the cartoon, the fact that shows like the aforementioned ''Robotech'' were redubbed anime and the ''Transformers''' obvious Japanese influences. This ''may'' also be due to passing exposure to [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] shows which, viewed as an adult, are ''very'' obviously redubbed anime.<br /> : This is in part related to the misconception that '''all''' ''Transformers'' toys are ''solely'' designed, developed and manufactured by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], and all [[Hasbro]] ever does is to put them in new packaging and distribute them in the Western market (see above). Because this is true for other Japanese robot toylines, and therefore it must also apply to ''Transformers''.<br /> : However, there's actually a ''little'' bit of truth to this misconception; since the G1 cartoon is an animated series made by Japanese studios, one could feasibly call it an anime; as &quot;anime&quot; is only a word to describe any form of animation in Japan, much like the word &quot;cartoon&quot; is here in the West, and ''not'' a term for a specific genre.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Jazz was written out of the series due to the death of his voice actor.'''<br /> : [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] conspicuously survives the events of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', yet went on to make no speaking appearances in the third season of the cartoon. As his voice actor, [[Scatman Crothers]], passed away of lung cancer in 1986, it is common for fans to assume that the latter caused the former. This isn't hurt by the fact that fellow Autobot and film survivor [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] also vanished due to issues involving [[Casey Kasem|his own voice actor]], nor by the fact that one of Jazz's only appearances involved him seemingly being referred to as &quot;[[Munka Spanka]].&quot; <br /> : However, the dates simply don't match up: Crothers's death happened on November 22, long after the third season had begun airing. In fact, by that point, the only remaining episodes were the two parts of &quot;[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|The Return of Optimus Prime]]&quot;, both of which aired months after the rest of the season. Add in the fact that any dialogue for the episodes would have been recorded months in advance, and the idea that Crothers dying affected the writing process becomes borderline impossible. The more likely answer is that Jazz stopped appearing, like much of the Season 1 and 2 cast, because his toy was no longer on shelves.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Headmasters'' was going to be dubbed into English and shown in America.'''<br /> : In America, &quot;Season 4&quot; consisted of &quot;The Rebirth&quot;, a 3-episode mini-series. In Japan, &quot;The Rebirth&quot; was ignored, and a full-fledged series titled ''The Headmasters'' continued the story instead. Rumors once swirled in the fandom of an American-led dub of ''The Headmasters'' series; the dub was largely finished, goes the story, till the materials were lost in a warehouse fire.<br /> : Given the meandering pace of the series (common for Japanese shows but anathema to American sensibilities), the presence of numerous characters who had no toy equivalent on US shelves, the incompatibility with the &quot;[[Nebulan]]&quot; head characters, the number of Japanese cultural references, and the very existence of &quot;[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Rebirth]]&quot;, this rumor seems unlikely on the surface.<br /> : More to the point, no official confirmation or other evidence has ever surfaced to back it up. In all likelihood the rumor was probably a {{w|Chinese whispers|Chinese Whisper}} from the fact that the laughably-bad English language [[Omni Productions]] dub was screened on UK satellite TV during the 1990s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Transformers were meant as a &quot;genderless&quot; race. Arcee and the other female Transformers were added to the brand because feminists complained about the Transformers all being male.'''<br /> : When [[Bob Budiansky]] was assigned to work out the character details for the toys, he initially intended some of them to represent female characters, like [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. However, he was not given permission by [[Hasbro]] to include females because the company feared it would have a negative impact on the sales of those toys.&lt;ref&gt;[http://rustingcarcass.yuku.com/topic/954 Rusting Carcass interview]&lt;/ref&gt; Budiansky complied, and in later years, would even pen [[Recipe for Disaster!|a story]] for the Marvel comic in which the Transformer race was stated to have no concept of gender.<br /> <br /> :[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The cartoon]] was a different story. Since television requires a bigger investment than comics, but also offers the potential for a much better payoff, it is of interest for a TV network to broadcast material that reaches the highest possible demographic. To this end, very early in its development, writer [[Jeffrey Scott]] penned a [[production bible]] which included original female Transformer characters as part of an effort to sell the series to TV Network CBS. When it was decided to produce the series for syndication rather than for a network, new story editors [[Bryce Malek]] and [[Dick Robbins]] dropped this idea, and the series went on to star an exclusively-male cast of robots. However, in late 1984, while working on the early story development for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', writer [[Ron Friedman]] argued for the inclusion of a female Autobot in the story, on the basis that he &quot;had a daughter who love[d] this stuff.&quot; Friedman won his argument, Arcee was added to the movie, and in 1985, female Autobots were incorporated into the series in advance of the film's release, with the introduction of [[Elita One]] and her [[Female Autobots]] in the episode &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]].&quot;<br /> :In other Transformers cartoons, [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] and the English dub gender flip of [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] have also been added to their respective series because of network demands, whereas [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]], [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] were a request from the writers to Hasbro.<br /> : Despite persistent stories, there is no documented instance of feminists demanding the inclusion of female Transformers (and likely, they've got something better to do than complain about another generic boys show like there are hundreds of). There is, however, a comic story called &quot;[[Prime's Rib!]]&quot; which presents Arcee's introduction to the Autobot ranks as an attempt by Optimus Prime to appease [[Feminist mob|human feminists]]. While the story is obviously satire, through hearsay it has become believed by some that it is what actually happened.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''The Transformers: The Movie''====<br /> <br /> *'''Some portions of Unicron's dialogue were recorded by an actor other than Orson Welles.'''<br /> <br /> : A common rumor in the Western fandom claimed that Unicron's final lines (&quot;Destiny... you cannot destroy my.. destiny!&quot;) were recorded by [[Leonard Nimoy]], based on claims that those lines sounded &quot;different&quot; from the rest of [[Orson Welles]]' lines.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/trivia IMDB.com reference to the Leonard Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt; Compounding the rumor is the fact that Welles died shortly after recording his ''TF:TM'' lines&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/This-Orson-Welles/dp/030680834X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6174389-3113623?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1182349938&amp;sr=8-1 According to one biography, Welles recorded his ''TF:TM'' lines on October 5, 1985 and died five days later.]&lt;/ref&gt; (and indeed, one version of the rumor has Welles actually dying ''before'' completing his lines). Despite being debunked repeatedly (including by [[Susan Blu]] and [[Wally Burr]], both of whom should know), this one still pops up from time to time.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/387399-leonard-nimoy-officially-announced-voice-sentinel-prime-13.html#post5858748 Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor repeated by TFW2005 user &quot;RedAlert Rescue&quot;.]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2007/07/when_orson_welles_was_a_transformer.single.html Slate.com discusses the Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie''/Scatman Crothers coined the term &quot;ginormous&quot;, which has since been added to several dictionaries.'''<br /> <br /> : In ''The Transformers: The Movie'', [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], voiced by [[Scatman Crothers]], described [[Unicron]] as &quot;a ginormous, weird-looking planet&quot;. The word &quot;ginormous&quot;, a portmanteau of &quot;gigantic&quot; and &quot;enormous&quot;, was officially added by the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary in 2007.&lt;ref name=&quot;webster&quot;&gt;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/newwords07.htm Merriam-Webster adding the word &quot;ginormous]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : Some fans believe that Crothers had coined the term, which is incorrect for several reasons. Even putting aside the notion that under this theory, Crothers is assumed to have ad-libbed the line (rather than simply reading it from [[Ron Friedman]]'s script), the term has actually been around for much longer, being listed in the Oxford English Dictionary as a &quot;British informal&quot; word that has existed since at least the 1940s, and was originally military slang.&lt;ref name=&quot;oxford&quot;&gt;[http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ginormous Oxford dictionary entry for &quot;ginormous&quot;]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was never released in Japan.'''<br /> <br /> : It is true that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was not released in Japan at the same time it was released in [[Hasbro]]'s markets, with Japanese fans instead getting the ''[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]'' OVA prior to the release of the third season of the show (second for Japan). But ''The Movie'' ultimately made it to Japanese theaters in August 1989. The various discrepancies between it and subsequent Japan-only Generation 1 fiction (such as who [[Prowl (G1)#The Headmasters cartoon|didn't]] [[Wheeljack (G1)#Victory cartoon|survive]] the movie) are largely a matter of the Japanese animators and writers being unaware of the precise details of the film. This also led to a similar rumor that ''Scramble City'' was an out-and-out ''replacement'' for the film, similar to how ''The Headmasters'' replaced &quot;The Rebirth.&quot; Actually viewing the OVA reveals that it has nothing to do with the events of ''The Movie'', other than that both feature [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and take place between the second and third seasons; at no point does it significantly contradict the film, and pretty much the only third-season change the film explains is where [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] came from. There were indeed attempts to summarize what had happened in the movie, including a narration added to &quot;Five Faces of Darkness&quot; and scans in ''Terebi Magazine'', but ''Scramble City'' served much more as an advertisement for its subline than a major turning point of the continuity.&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216153#post216153&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216478#post216478&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?threadid=30800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in Japan under the title &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.'''<br /> <br /> : &quot;[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix|Matrix Forever]]&quot; is actually the shortened and slightly mistranslated title of a 20-minute video created to promote the Japanese release of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', but some Western fans have been confused into thinking that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' itself was renamed &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a5d29844863d2c29&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;SpaceMafia&quot;&gt;'''Black Shadow and Blue Bacchus are both members of a &quot;Space Mafia&quot;.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :[[Black Shadow (G1)|Black Shadow]] of ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'' has his function listed as &quot;Space Gangster&quot;. An early fan translation of his on-package [[bio]] misinterpreted the Japanese word for &quot;gangster&quot; to mean &quot;Mafia&quot;, hence the belief that a &quot;Space Mafia&quot; exists in the Japanese Generation 1 universe. This was naturally extended to his partner, [[Blue Bacchus]], whose function is &quot;Space Gunman.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MetrotitanZombie&quot;&gt;'''Metrotitan is a zombie version of Metroplex.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> : [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was a Destron [[redeco]] of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] from the ''[[Transformers: Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'' portion of Japanese Generation 1 continuity. For unclear reasons, Western fans believe that Metrotitan was a &quot;zombified&quot; version of Metroplex, and a stranger variation on this rumor holds that Metrotitan was somehow &quot;regrown&quot; from one of Metroplex's legs.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot; /&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====European Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *'''Starscream and Shrapnel are female characters in the French dub of Generation 1.'''<br /> : This rumor is only partly true. The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' cartoon]] used three different dub teams for the French version: one for the TV show's dub broadcast in Quebec, one for the TV show's dub broadcast in France and one for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] used in both countries. Neither of the TV show's dubs depict [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] as a female as he uses a distinctively male voice;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM YouTube: Doublage de France: Combaticons et Égo]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMXCeXw5Vdo Doublage Québécois: Égo et Dr. Croc-en-ville]&lt;/ref&gt; however, the movie's dubbing team used a female voice for Starscream, and at one point [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] calls Starscream &quot;une imbécile&quot; (articles in French are gender-specific), clearly cementing Starscream's movie status as a female.&lt;ref&gt;http://web.archive.org/web/20080612225831/http://www.bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes&lt;/ref&gt; All the same is also true for [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who is even referred to as &quot;Mademoiselle Shrapnel&quot; by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] in the movie.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The German version of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was edited and didn't depict Starscream's death scene.'''<br /> : German TV didn't air a dubbed version of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] until 1989. ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' was aired for the first time on German TV in 1994, with only one repeat. For unknown reasons, a rumor was circulating for several years claiming that [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream's]] death was considered too &quot;violent&quot; for German TV standards for children's programs and had therefore been edited out.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&amp;fid=7489&amp;vid=38680 German movie database ''still'' listing the rumor about Starscream's &quot;edited death&quot; in TF:TM]&lt;/ref&gt; However, recordings of the TV airing still exist, which don't feature any obvious edits other than [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] infamous &quot;swear&quot; line. Furthermore, a German DVD edition of the movie released in 2004 that features an entirely different dub also depicts Starscream's death in all its glory.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.'''<br /> :The comic story &quot;[[Desert Island Risks!]]&quot; from issue 264 of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|G1 comic]] reveals that the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] have somehow lost their ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As a result, they try to build another Devastator as a new robot.<br /> <br /> :Some fans mistakenly believe that this is somehow related to a re-release of the Constructicons (now in yellow) that were available in [[The Transformers (European toyline)|Europe]] after the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' toyline had ended in the USA. Those Constructicons omitted the extra parts necessary to form Devastator; and furthermore, [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] and [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (neither of them officially named in this version; all six toys came on multi-purpose cardbacks simply named &quot;Constructicon&quot;) were [[retool]]ed to omit the tabs that were necessary for combining them (and [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]) when forming Devastator. Since the toys couldn't combine into Devastator anymore, fans believe that the [[Earthforce]] comic story was intended to serve as an &quot;explanation&quot; for this.<br /> <br /> :The problem with this theory, however, is that the yellow &quot;Euro&quot; Constructicon toys were released in 1992; the comic story, however, had already come out in early 1990. If anything, &quot;Desert Island Risks!&quot; was based on the [[Action Master]] version of Devastator, which no longer consisted of six individual Constructicons. (Also, the individual Constructicons don't even appear in the story.)<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Early internet misconceptions===<br /> <br /> *'''Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.'''<br /> [[File:G1 OptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1984—the original.]]<br /> [[File:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1988—the Powermaster version.]]<br /> <br /> :This one claims that the [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy, originally released in 1988, is the ''original'', first Optimus Prime toy ever released, rather than the ''earlier'', non-Powermaster toy, which is an entirely different mold and was originally available in 1984. This phenomenon is particularly common in [[eBay]] auctions, where Powermaster Optimus Prime toys are frequently advertised as &quot;ORIGINAL Optimus Prime&quot;.<br /> :The reasons for this misconception are obvious: Numerous people arrived late to the party—that is, became fans of the original ''Transformers'' line after the ''real'' original Optimus Prime toy had vanished off the shelves in 1986 (the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] was still shown in reruns on TV). Any of them looking for a toy of the iconic [[Autobot]] leader would only find the Powermaster toy on store shelves starting in 1988. Fast-forward to 20 years later, and people who weren't really paying a lot of attention to the brand for the past few years, now looking to sell off their childhood toys, would naturally conclude that the toy they got as a kid was the ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.<br /> :The phenomenon is even more widespread in countries such as Germany, where the cartoon wasn't officially shown on TV until 1989(!). By that point, the ''original'' toy, which had originally been released by [[Milton Bradley]] in the European market in 1985, was long gone off the shelves. Thus, the only Optimus Prime toy available to kids who had only just become fans because of the cartoon was the Powermaster version. Admittedly, [[parallel import|gray import]]s of the Mexican version of the ''original'' toy by [[IGA]] were also available in European stores around this time, and Hasbro themselves would release the original toy again two years later as part of their European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line of reissues. However, the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was still a lot more widespread.<br /> <br /> *'''20th Anniversary Optimus Prime was the Optimus Prime toy available in the 1980s/Alternators are the same toys that were available in the 1980s.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-1-Convoy.jpg|125px|thumb|Sadly, this didn't exist until 2003.]]<br /> :This misconception usually comes from people who, upon seeing the 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy (which was originally released in 2003/2004), honest-to-god swear it's the toy they had when they were a kid. Similarly, there are also people who believe that the toys from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' line are the same toys they had as kids, when they're most likely confusing them with the original Autobot Cars, which are about half the size.<br /> :The reasons for this aren't too hard to guess: People were a lot smaller when they were kids, so obviously the original Transformers toys seemed a lot larger to them. Since these fans didn't repeatedly hold or play with their Transformers while growing up, they weren't constantly adjusting to the toys' size in relation to their own. This resulted in blurred memories of outright ''gargantuan'' Transformers toys available in the 1980s. (One might wonder how tall those people would remember [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] being.)<br /> :When confronted with the original toys—now relatively small because the fans have grown up—these people often reject them, insisting the &quot;original&quot; toys were ''larger'' (occasionally even accusing the ''real'' original toys of being downsized [[knockoff]]s). Showing them the Alternators or 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, on the other hand, will bring back warm (albeit incorrect) memories.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''&quot;Bumblejumper&quot; is just a yellow Cliffjumper'''<br /> [[File:G1-toy Bumper.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, who later would be known as &quot;Bumper&quot;.]]<br /> :In 1984, Hasbro released three different similar-form toys as part of the [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] assortment: [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys|Cliffjumper]], and a [[Bumper (G1)|third unnamed toy]] that was not advertised in any capacity, sold ''only'' on Cliffjumper cards (at least, no samples on a Bumblebee card have ever surfaced). This third mold was a &quot;leftover&quot; from the ''[[Micro Change]]'' line, based on a Mazda Familia 1500XG sedan, and was very quickly phased out (resulting in him becoming the first of the &quot;holy grail&quot; super-costly Transformers on the secondary market). The exact nature of how and why this toy got released is still a mystery. Fans took to calling this third mystery mold portmanteau names such as &quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, &quot;Cliffbee&quot;, and &quot;Bumper&quot;; that last one eventually becoming his official name when he appeared in the ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|''Generation One'' Volume 1]] comic series by [[Dreamwave Productions]].<br /> :Adding to the confusion is that both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were available in two color schemes: their fiction-supported colors (Bee in yellow, Cliff in red) and in reversed colors (Bee in red, Cliff in yellow) up through 1985. And since Cliffjumper and Bumper are both similarly boxy in vehicle form, and Bumper was only available in yellow, and only on Cliffjumper cards for a very short time, and was not in any catalogs and had no name and didn't appear in any cartoons or comics....<br /> :Further adding to the mistaken memory pile is [[Hubcap (G1)#toys|Hubcap]], a yellow [[retool]] of Cliffjumper released in 1986. Fun!<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''A show-accurate Skyfire toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Jetfire-SkyfireModels.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Patience. You just have to wait 22 years.]]<br /> :Due to some legal entanglements, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was renamed &quot;Skyfire&quot; for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]], with a [[character model]] that bore only a vague resemblance to the toy. Some confused viewers seem to have come away assuming that there had to be a [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] Generation 1 toy by the name of Skyfire. (The ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Jetfire toy is actually designed as a mix between the original toy and the cartoon character model, and many later toys have aspects of the cartoon model too.)<br /> <br /> :{{-}}<br /> *'''A Unicron toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Unicron Proto.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seriously, aren't you glad your poor parents didn't have to waste like a hundred bucks on this back in '86?]]<br /> :No toys of [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] were available (or even produced beyond [[prototype]]) until 2003. In fact, the mere ''existence'' of those prototypes wasn't actually officially confirmed until many years later. The first [[Unicron/toys|official Unicron toy]] to be released came out as part of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line in 2003 and was a brand new mold, not based on an old, unused prototype.<br /> :The fictional existence of a ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' Unicron toy is likely based on schoolground one-upmanship: if one kid had a larger toy such as [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], a rival kid would claim to have a Unicron toy in order to appear cooler, but would most likely retire to his bed a sobbing mess, knowing in his heart that one day God would punish him for being a HUGE FIBBER.<br /> :What could also have attributed to this misconception was the voice actor for Unicron himself, Orson Welles. He died before the movie's release and the part in the 1986 movie was his last before his death in 1985. He loathed the part and could not even remember his character's name; he was quoted as saying, &quot;I play a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys,&quot; mistakenly assuming there was a toy for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In 2005, a crazy old man claimed he had created the original ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> :In 2005, the ''Transformers'' [[fandom]] learned, by way of a newspaper article posted by an internet fan site, of the existence of [[Henry Orenstein]], a former toymaker. Although the main focus of the article was Orenstein's then-current achievements in the field of poker, it also implied that Orenstein had &quot;created&quot; the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]]'' toys, and even featured a photo that depicted a somewhat confused-looking Orenstein holding [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]]. Many fans subsequently assumed that this was a deluded old man who believed he had created the concept of ''Transformers'' toys, even though the fandom knew full well by this point that the original toys were originally created in Japan. His status as the &quot;creator&quot; of the ''Transformers'' toy line was subsequently repeated in several other articles about the man, possibly directly based on its mention in the original 2005 article.<br /> :The ''fact'' is that Orenstein had worked for [[Hasbro]] during the 1980s, and was the person who had convinced [[George Dunsay]], then Hasbro's Vice President of R&amp;D, to acquire the rights to a (more or less) innovative type of Japanese toys, which would eventually become known as the original ''Transformers'' toys. Aside from that and the original patent for the [[rubsign]]s, which he shares with Dunsay, Orenstein has made no known contribution to the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. Obviously, the writer of said newspaper article had only marginal knowledge of the history of the ''Transformers'' brand, was told what was most likely nothing more than an anecdote by Orenstein (his biography is full of fascinating episodes, by the way), and subsequently inflated it massively with hyperbole, possibly in an attempt to gain more attention to his article due to the popularity of the brand, even before the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]]. The only question is, where did the photographer get the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy from?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''&quot;Generation 2&quot; means &quot;after ''The Transformers: The Movie''.&quot;'''<br /> :This common but explicitly false idea probably stems from the many casual fans who grew up with the original ''Transformers'' line but stopped paying much attention around 1986, when the animated ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' debuted and the ''Transformers'' craze began to die down. Many such fans regained some interest in ''Transformers'' many years later, particularly with hype surrounding the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]]. Seeing the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; batted around in fandom, it might seem natural to assume it refers to the big changeover that happened with the animated film. It certainly didn't help that, early in the life of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]], [[Pat Lee]] shared in this misconception, leading other new arrivals to the fandom to ape his use of the term.<br /> :While the original animated movie certainly marked a change from one &quot;generation&quot; of toys to another, along with some new design trends, the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; refers to [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|a very specific franchise]], marketed from 1992 to 1995—years after the animated film had come and gone. Its relative obscurity probably contributes to the mis-attribution of the term, as ''Generation 2'' marks a low point in popularity for ''Transformers'' as a whole.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Traumatizing enough as it is, frankly.]]<br /> *'''There exists an &quot;uncut version&quot; of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' containing all sorts of non-kid-friendly content.'''<br /> <br /> : These stories stem mainly from the fact that many home-video releases of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' omit two relatively minor instances of characters using profanity, which during the 1990s resulted in some [[alt.toys.transformers]] posters advertising &quot;uncut&quot; VHS copies of the movie for sale, thus either intentionally or unintentionally creating the myth of a really foul-mouthed and ultra-violent alternate version of ''The Transformers: The Movie''. At least one poster claimed to have uncut reels of the original film showing a number of violent scenes,&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/07464cbfbb5d0cc9/8aee0b30765b2b4a?hl=en#8aee0b30765b2b4a THE UNCUT JAPANESE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE]&lt;/ref&gt; but, unsurprisingly, was unwilling to provide any form of proof.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/799fec40c1aa285e/6af42e4099affa04?hl=en# Doth the Canadian protesteth too much?]&lt;/ref&gt; So have ended all claims of uncut footage from the film.<br /> <br /> :A much stranger rumor, whose origins are unclear, claims that the original theatrical cut of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' depicted [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] crumbling into dust after dying, and that that scene was cut by the distributor in mid-release because children were traumatized by the imagery. Interestingly, the &quot;[[Death of Optimus Prime]]&quot; track on the original soundtrack album does contain ten extra seconds of music. At the end, just before the song's final low-octave percussion sequence, there is a very distinct series of notes that appears nowhere else in the song and is not in the onscreen version. However, no other evidence of this &quot;lost&quot; animation sequence exists among the many storyboards, preliminary animations, interviews, varying formats, etc., that have come to light. The myth could be related to the death of Starscream, a few scenes later, where Starscream '''does''' indeed crumble to dust after being shot by Galvatron; time and distance could lead fans to confuse the two scenes.<br /> <br /> :These claims should not be confused with the extra storyboarded scenes and early script revisions which have come to light over the years, which do in fact contain a lot more violence. But no evidence exists that any of these sequences, even those that made it to storyboard, were ever animated. Especially given the expense of producing full animation.<br /> <br /> ::''See also: [[The Transformers: The Movie#Edits]].''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MegGalvJapan&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, Megatron and Galvatron are two separate characters.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :There are a few instances of Japanese fiction (and advertising) that would seem to support this notion, all of which can be attributed to a lack of communication between [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] prior to the release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. All of them were ultimately ignored by the &quot;primary&quot; fiction, namely the (dubbed) third season of the cartoon (named ''Transformers: 2010'' in Japan) and the accompanying manga, which followed the Western story concept of Galvatron being a reformatted [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].<br /> :The [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 2|second issue]] of ''[[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]]'' [[manga]] depicts [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] commanding [[Megatron Corps|a legion of automatons]] created in [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s image, which some non-Japanese-speaking fans misinterpreted as depicting Galvatron and Megatron co-existing. This even extended into ''[[The Battlestars]]'', where the appearance of Super Megatron solidified the idea to those fans; after all, surely if he were upgraded from Galvatron, he would be named Super Galvatron, right? One particularly sturdy rumor claimed that he was trying to hunt Galvatron down (possibly conflating him with [[Gilthor]]).&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=179&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;PlanetDestron&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, the Destrons (Decepticons) were invaders from a planet called Destron.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :The [[Autobot]]s were renamed &quot;Cybertrons&quot; in the Japanese translation, resulting in a misconception that the Destrons ([[Decepticon]]s) must hail from somewhere other than the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, the Japanese translation also used slightly different spellings for the faction, &quot;Cybertron&quot; (literally: サイバトロン, &quot;Sa-i-ba-to-ro-n&quot;), and the planet, (literally: セイバートロン, &quot;Se-i-baa-to-ro-n&quot;), commonly interpreted as &quot;Seibertron&quot; by Western fans, in order to avoid confusion, even though both words originally started out based on the English name &quot;Cybertron&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot;&gt;[http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 The Transformers Archive essay about various urban legends surrounding the Transformers franchise]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :This rumor presumably originates from an article a Thomas Wheeler had written for ''Attic's Collectible Toys and Values Monthly'' during the hiatus between the [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]] toylines. According to that article, Hasbro chose not to follow this element of the story because of the similarity between the term &quot;Destron&quot; and ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'''s &quot;[[Destro]]&quot; character. Of course, seeing as the story originated in America to begin with and was only dubbed into Japanese later on, this doesn't make a lot of sense. In later years, Wheeler wrote toy reviews for Master Collector's website, which occasionally also display a certain lack of knowledge about various toys and the ''Transformers'' brand's overall history, so it doesn't seem entirely out of place for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Beast Era Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Beast Wars didn't originally have the Transformers branding.'''<br /> :While the early design of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy packaging had the ''Transformers'' brand name in a smaller typeface than the main ''Beast Wars'' logo, the toy range was ''always'' officially titled ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' in the United States from day one. Later on, with the release of the [[Transmetal]]s and [[Fuzor]]s subranges, the ''Transformers'' name was increased in size and prominence on the packaging, eventually reversing the order of the two parts of the title to ''Transformers: Beast Wars''. <br /> <br /> :In Europe, things were a little less cut-and-dry: Various types of [[multilingual packaging]] that saw use in different markets further reduced the prominence (and in some cases, also the visibility) of the ''Transformers'' branding, initially relegating it to an entirely different section of the packaging far away from the ''Beast Wars'' title. Lastly, when British commercial broadcaster ITV aired the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' television series]] on their morning show (GMTV), the ''Transformers'' name was edited out of the title sequence entirely.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''The [[Vok]] are servants of [[The One]].'''<br /> :This idea was largely born out of coincidence, misunderstanding, and very poor timing. In the first season of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]], one of the more important parts of its story was the mystery surrounding an alien race called the Vok. As admitted by series creators [[Bob Forward]] and [[Larry DiTillio]], the first season was largely made up as it went along; so too was the story of the Vok. There was no truly definite plan for what these alien were, beyond their being enigmatic and otherworldly. Behind the scenes, there were some ideas bounced between Forward and DiTillio, but which were largely contradictory and not at all concrete. Ultimately, the true nature of the Vok was left unexplored in the cartoon, leaving it to ancillary media to formulate their own interpretations.<br /> :For [[BotCon 2001]], Bob Forward was given the chance to flesh out the Vok's backstory in the form of a short comic titled &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 1|Primeval Dawn]]&quot;, in which he characterized them as an evolved and enlightened form of the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], a malevolent force from the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' series from [[Marvel Comics]]. (Note that this was ''not'' Forward's background idea for the Vok, but rather DiTillio's). In this comic, the Vok declared themselves to be &quot;Guardians of the One. Defenders of the Ultimate -- Of that which must be.&quot; At the time of release, this appeared to have merely been a direct callback to a line the Vok had spoken in the cartoon episode &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 1]]&quot;—&quot;That which does not become part of the One shall become void.&quot; Though, what, exactly, they meant by &quot;the One&quot; was not explained.<br /> :After a series of delays and changed plans, the next two chapters of ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' finally saw release at [[OTFCC 2004]]. By this point, Hasbro insisted that all convention fiction must promote the new ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Transformers: Universe]]'' series. Thus, Parts 2 and 3 of ''Primeval Dawn'' were given a sizable dose of foreshadowing to the [[Universe War]]. In particular, &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]&quot; (now penned by ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)#Transformers: Universe|Universe]]'' writer [[Simon Furman]]) gave the following descriptions for the Vok:<br /> {{quote|We are '''''the Vok''''', guardians of '''''the One.''''' We are of the Source, the Core, forever committed to safeguard '''''the Plan.''''' But it was not always so. We began in flailing darkness, a '''''swarming''''' mass of '''''hungry''''' instinct and '''''primal''''' need. Unguided, we consumed, ravaged... Plagued the very macroverse we now seek to protect. Then came the '''''Light''''', and with knowledge and understanding. Our destiny and purpose revealed.}}<br /> {{quote|We spread beyond the one universe into the '''''many''''', across '''''every''''' plane of reality and consciousness, seeding the past, present, and future. We saw the '''''entirety''''' of the Creator's vision, the One... and the '''''All.''''' A '''''unity''''' of worlds, timelines, and dimensions. A multiversal confluence, harmonized and organized. In perfect '''''synchronicity.''''' But... The Plan is threatened. The '''''Enemy''''' of all creation is once more roused. His agents spreading like a '''''virus''''' throughout the omniversal system.|Vok|[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]}}<br /> :Translation: The first is another recounting of the Vok's origins as the Swarm and their purification by [[Primus]]'s power via the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. The &quot;Source&quot;/&quot;Core&quot; they speak of is Primus himself,&lt;ref&gt;One year earlier, in 2003, Furman equated Primus with the Oracle, Vector Sigma, and &quot;the Source&quot; in the ''Transformers: Universe'' [[OTFCC Live-Action Drama|live script reading]] at [[OTFCC 2003]].&lt;/ref&gt; whose essence within the Matrix is the source of Cybertronian life, and who became one with the [[core]] of Cybertron, in [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel's ''The Transformers'' comics]] (specifically those written by Furman).<br /> :The second seems to reinterpret the Vok's ill-defined experiment with prehistoric Earth as part of some still-vague service to &quot;the One&quot;/&quot;the Plan&quot;/&quot;the Creator's vision&quot;—in other words, Primus's [[Grand Plan]]. Their 'quantum-babble' description of &quot;the One and the All&quot; likewise alludes to the saying &quot;[['Til all are one]]&quot;, which is now tied directly to the Grand Plan. The &quot;Enemy of all creation&quot; is [[Unicron]], whose imminent return and &quot;agents spreading like a virus&quot; across the multiverse was the key conflict of the Universe War itself, making this more foreshadowing on Furman's part. <br /> :However, much of this deeper meaning was lost on most fans thanks to the comic's release coming just two months after the publication of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', also penned by Furman. This book introduced the godlike being simply known as &quot;[[The One]]&quot;, who created both Unicron and Primus. Later, the Hasbro website feature [[Ask Vector Prime]] would claim that Unicron and Primus were created by something called the &quot;Source&quot;. And later still, the Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime would conflate both The One and the Source with the &quot;sentient core of the universe&quot; that created Primus in the Marvel comics, canonizing a few fan theories that had flourished over the years.<br /> :In hindsight, with all three of these concepts now merged together, it is not hard to see why some fans latched onto the idea that the &quot;One&quot;, the &quot;Source&quot;, and the &quot;Core&quot; that the Vok referred to in their service of Primus in ''Primeval Dawn'' was the very same entity that ''The Ultimate Guide'', Vector Prime, and Marvel had each claimed to have been the creator of Primus. Yet, it becomes clear that that was not the intended meaning behind the Vok's dialogue when one realizes that said dialogue was instead merely an attempt [[to sell toys|to build hype]] for ''Transformers: Universe''. Thankfully, when once asked directly about the Vok's service of The One, Vector Prime neglected to address that particular part of the question altogether.<br /> <br /> ====Japanese ''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''Preface'''<br /> :To give a better idea of how the following misconceptions came about, many of them stem from how little access the Western fandom had to understandable forms of the Japanese ''Beast Wars'' media at the time. After all, when the series were first released, the internet was still a relatively &quot;new&quot; thing, where [[alt.toys.transformers|USENET forums]] were still a major outlet for fan information and websites were... rudimentary. For about two decades since that time, the most that the West had access to were a small number of fan-subtitled episodes of ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', a fansubbed version of the theatrical feature segment ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!]]'', a translation of the first ''Beast Wars II'' [[Catalog#Beast Wars II|toy catalog]], and second-hand accounts from those who had seen the untranslated episodes of either series or had read each's respective [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (manga)|series]]. Over time, those who lacked an understanding of the Japanese language would misinterpret much of these series' specifics. The following are a few of the most well known misunderstandings.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Optimusx2.JPG|thumb|Well, that's just Prime.]]<br /> *'''In Japanese ''Beast Wars'' continuity, Optimus Primal and Megatron were the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes.'''<br /> :Initially, both ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] were identified in early packaging as new incarnations of Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], respectively, in the Western release of the toyline. This was most evident in the bios of the Basic class bat Optimus Primal and alligator Megatron toys, the very first toys of the two. But, the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] would do away with this by firmly establishing that the two were instead separate individuals from their Generation 1 namesakes.<br /> :When ''Beast Wars'' was first brought over to Japan, Takara evidently thought that the original notion was still the case: Optimus Primal was renamed &quot;Convoy&quot;, the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, and the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] factions were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon factions—&quot;Cybertron&quot; and &quot;Destron&quot;, respectively. Optimus and Megatron's Ultra and Basic class toys were each given Japanese bios loosely based on the English bios of their respective Basic class toys; their Ultra class toy bios even gave them the same functions as their Generation 1 namesakes ([[Supreme Commander]] and [[Emperor of Destruction]], respectively) and the one for Optimus even implied that he was the very same Optimus of old. Both of their Basic class toys were even given special redecos with new bios that ''explicitly'' claimed the two had previously been a tractor trailer and a Walther P-38, the very altmodes of the Generation 1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. <br /> :When the first season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon began airing in Japan, it was initially ambiguous on the matter, never actually saying one way or the other if Optimus and Megatron were meant to be new characters like their English counterparts, or the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes. More unhelpful to this confusion was Optimus Primal's later big-screen guest appearance in ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'', in which the cast of ''Beast Wars II'' revered him as a &quot;legendary Supreme Commander&quot;, in contrast to his depiction in the American cartoon as merely the captain of a lowly science vessel. Likewise, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] referred to a &quot;Megatron&quot; as &quot;the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history.&quot; But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or ''Beast Wars'' Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus.<br /> :Clarity would finally come in ''Beast Wars Metals'', the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's second and third seasons, which had been held back from airing on Japanese television until after both seasons had been completed by [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]], and thus did not reach Japanese audiences until after ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' were over. In short, ''Metals'' remained consistent with the original English-language version in keeping the Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars'' namesakes as separate characters. In the Japanese dub of &quot;[[The Agenda (Part 2)]]&quot;, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron even refers to Generation 1 Megatron as &quot;My ancestor Megatron&quot;&lt;ref&gt;我先祖のメガトロン, ''Waga senzo no Megatron''&lt;/ref&gt; when relating the history of the Golden Disk to Ravage.<br /> :As for the &quot;legendary&quot; status of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus and Megatron in the movie, that was (and still is) merely an aspect of long-running Japanese children's series that have multiple shows (e.g. – ''Kamen Rider'', ''Super Sentai'', etc.), in that the main hero of a previous series is treated with awe and reverence by the cast of the next series in any crossover team-ups. Optimus Primal was the leader of the good guys from the series preceding ''Beast Wars II'', so the cast of that series viewed him with due respect. Later, the cast of ''Beast Wars Neo'' did the same for Lio Convoy of ''Beast Wars II'', calling him a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; in [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]]. Heck, even [[Big Convoy]] was called a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; multiple times in ''Neo'', even as early as the [[Big Convoy, Move Out|first episode]]. To put it simply, being &quot;legendary&quot; in Japanese ''Beast Wars'' fiction is not as special as it sounds.<br /> :Incidentally, it would later be confirmed that the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon actually took place eons ''after'' the later-made ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' (see below for more). This meant that ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron actually ''were'' figures of the distant past from the ''Beast Wars II'' cast's perspective. In hindsight, this legendary status of the two in the movie fits rather well with how, in ''Beast Machines'', Megatron singlehandedly conquered all of Cybertron and &quot;viciously&quot; captured the sparks of its entire population, while Optimus saved the whole planet from Megatron at the cost of his own life. As Japan would not receive that series until [[2004]]—six years after the movie's release—this all proved rather fortuitous in the end.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Optimus Primal was sent to Planet Gaia in the ''Beast Wars II'' movie when he flew into the alien machine at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;.'''<br /> :The ''Beast Wars II'' feature film, ''[[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers]]'', was initially released in Japanese theaters before the second season of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon first aired in Japan. During the ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' segment of this film, Optimus Primal made a guest appearance to team up with the cast of ''Beast Wars II''. At the end of the segment, he declares that he must &quot;return to Energoa&quot;; this was the name given to prehistoric Earth in the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, before its true identity as Earth was revealed. This meant that he had been transported to Planet [[Gaia]]—future Earth—from prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]].<br /> :The final episode of the first season of ''Beast Wars'', &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 2]]&quot;, ends with Optimus Primal flying up into the [[Vok]]'s [[Planet Buster|planet-destroying weapon]], sacrificing himself to save the planet. [[Aftermath|Three]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)|episodes]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|later]], he is restored to life after a difficult resurrection process. Since Primal's appearance in the movie was screened in Japan between the Japanese airings of Seasons 1 and 2 of ''Beast Wars'', some took this release order as a literal chronology for Optimus Primal's Japanese cartoon appearances, thinking that his final moment in &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot; was the exact moment he was pulled into the future and brought to Gaia. A statement given in the ''[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book]]'' even seemed to confirm this theory.&lt;ref&gt;Page 7: エイリアンマシンに激突した際、時空を超えて惑星ガイアにやってきた。(&quot;When he crashed into the [[Planet Buster|Alien Machine]], he crossed space-time and came to the planet Gaia.&quot;)&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :Some even took his presence in the movie as an explanation for why the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had great difficulty locating Primal's [[spark]] within &quot;the other side of the [[Transformer afterlife|Matrix]]&quot; in &quot;[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)]]&quot;, as if to mean that it ''wasn't'' there at the time. ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' is even bookended by sequences that recap the events of Primal's death and rebirth in ''Beast Wars''. And most of all, when Optimus is brought to Gaia, he initially appears in a glowing, yellow, ghost-like form, which ''wasn't'' the case for the story's main antagonist, [[Majin Zarak]], who had arrived on Gaia through the exact same means as Optimus. He even returns to this glowing, yellow, spectral form upon his departure near the end of the movie.<br /> :However, despite the longevity of this theory, the opening narration of the very next part of the movie—the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' season 2 episode &quot;[[Bad Spark]]&quot;—actually seems to debunk it by essentially reiterating what was true of Primal's fate in the English version of ''Beast Wars''. In this narration, Rhinox and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] claim that Optimus Primal did indeed die in the [[unspace|transwarp]] explosion at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;, and that Rhinox had brought his spark back from the dead in &quot;Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)&quot;. <br /> :While this apparently renders the ''Film Book''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s statement in error, it does seem like there was originally ''some'' intention for it to be true, given Primal's arrival and departure in the movie depicting him in his aforementioned ghostly form. But, while a neat idea, it raises too many questions and relies on too many assumptions in order for it to sensibly fit with Primal's onscreen resurrection. And since Rhinox and Rattrap claim otherwise, this would mean that Optimus was brought to the future from a different point during the Beast Wars, ''before'' the end of Season 1 due to Primal having his Season 1 body in the movie. Exactly when during Season 1, however, has never been disclosed.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {{anchor|JBWchronology}}<br /> [[File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|thumb|Everything you know is a lie!]]<br /> *'''The characters of the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoons hail from the same time-period as the cast of ''Beast Wars'', at a point set prior to ''Beast Machines''.'''<br /> :It's almost not fair to call this one a misconception: By all appearances, this ''was'' the original intent for the Japanese-original ''Beast Wars'' shows. Both the first catalog packed in with ''Beast Wars II'' toys and the ''Beast Wars II'' manga present Lio Convoy and Galvatron as contemporaries of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron, and the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon initially gave no reason to doubt that this also applied to its story. ''Beast Wars Neo'' even featured a [[Convoy Council|Maximal governing body]] that could have very well been the Japanese version of the [[Maximal Elder]]s/[[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. But then, months into its run, the [[Emissary of the Fourth Planet|thirty-sixth episode]] of ''Beast Wars II'' stated that humanity hadn't lived on Gaia for &quot;tens of thousands of years.&quot; As the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon [[Dark Designs|established]] that its cast hailed from only three centuries after the Generation 1 era, when Earth was still populated by humans, this meant that it was impossible for the 'bots of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' to be from the same time period, and that the two Japanese series were, in fact, set ''long'' after the home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast. Of course, as it would be nearly twenty years before either series was translated in full, western fans never ''learned'' about this at the time and, with only the catalog to go on, continued to assume that its story held true for the Japanese cartoons. It was only in the 2006, when TakaraTomy published a massive [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|Generation 1/Beast Era timeline]], which adhered to the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon's dating for the series, that English-speaking fans at large first learned of this fact.<br /> :Now, to be honest, ''Beast Wars II'' probably didn't ''intentionally'' deviate from ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, but rather, just kinda goofed on the continuity, and history had to roll with it. That said, this did fix a discrepancy: By coincidence, both ''Beast Wars Neo'' and ''Beast Machines'' (both produced around the same time) featured the mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]], but depicted it in two radically different, very contradictory ways. ''Beast Wars Neo'' had presented the computer as the publicly-known ruler of Cybertron, while ''Beast Machines'' depicted it as a long-lost legend, unheard of for years until it was reactivated in [[The Reformatting|the first episode of the series]]. If ''Beast Wars Neo'' was meant to occur before ''Beast Machines'' (as was probably the intent), this didn't make any sense, but the timeline shuffle caused by ''Beast Wars II'' now helped these two different portrayals fit together.<br /> :It did create a ''new'' discrepancy, though: In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Cybertron was depicted with its traditional appearance as a metallic planet, while, at the end of ''Beast Machines'', it was converted into a [[technorganic]] form. In [[2019]], a ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]'' [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Blue Big Convoy)|pack-in comic]] fixed this last gap in the timeline, explaining how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world eons after its [[Great Transformation|technorganic reformatting]].<br /> :While these retcons have tidied things up, the fans' original understanding of the timeline has influenced several pieces of American Beast Era media over the years. The Hasbro toy bio for [[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] [[Cybershark]] referred to &quot;a rogue band of Cybertronian space pirates&quot; (an allusion to ''Beast Wars II'''s [[Seacon (BW)|Seacon Space Pirates]]) as his contemporaries, while the bio for ''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]'' [[Magmatron]] all but explicitly pegged him as the same Magmatron from ''Neo'', mentioning his &quot;[[Emperor of Destruction|emperor of destruction]]&quot; title and his involvement in &quot;an interplanetary quest for [[Angolmois Energy|energy capsules]]&quot;; the latter of which was also placed, by the bio, before the events of ''Beast Machines''.&lt;ref&gt;The full first sentence of ''Dinobots'' Magmatron's bio: &quot;Following an interplanetary quest for energy capsules, Magmatron returned to Cybertron to find an alarmingly growing population of Vehicon drones.&quot;&lt;/ref&gt; In both the ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]'' comic series and the prose story &quot;[[Wreckers: Finale Part II]]&quot;, characters from the two Japanese series appeared on Cybertron as contemporaries of the ''Beast Machines'' cast, at points set within a year after the planet's reformatting. The latter story even referred to [[Combatron (BW)|some of them]] as &quot;pre-reformatting&quot;. [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]]'' comic series likewise chose to depict the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' casts as contemporaries of the ''Beast Wars'' characters (though these series played faster and looser with the timeline, depicting events similar to ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' as having occurred ''before'' the home time-period of the ''Beast Wars'', instead of during or after), while the ''Beast Wars II'' Predacons [[Dirge (BW)|Dirge]] and [[BB (BW)|Max-B]] made appearances in the ''Beast Wars'' prequels &quot;[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]&quot; and &quot;[[Intimidation Game]]&quot;, respectively.<br /> :Even after the release of the Japanese Generation 1/Beast Era timeline, new media set in other continuities have chosen to continue depicting characters from ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' (and even ''Car Robots'') existing side-by-side with the ''Beast Wars'' cast, with such series as ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' and the ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' comics set in the &quot;[[Legends World]]&quot; presenting all of them living together in societies and scenarios unique to those series.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The characters in ''Beast Wars II'' travel forward in time to Future Earth just like how the characters of ''Beast Wars'' travel back in time to Prehistoric Earth.'''<br /> :Seemingly an offshoot of the above misconception, this appears to have been born out of a misinterpretation of a scene in the [[The New Forces Arrive!|first episode]]. When the Maximal starship ''[[Yukikaze (BW)|Yukikaze]]'' takes off into space, there is a shot where it vanishes in a flash of light and reappears elsewhere within the vicinity of Gaia. Some have mistaken this flash of light to mean that the ''Yukikaze'' traveled through [[unspace|transwarp space]] forward in time to arrive in the future, as if to echo the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s own time-jump to the past in ''Beast Wars''.<br /> :This feels like an attempt to hold on to the belief of the ''Beast Wars II'' cast originating from the same home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast, while also aligning with the revelation of Gaia being Earth several tens of millennia after humanity left planet.<br /> :In truth, however, what really happens during the scene in question is that the ''Yukikaze'' simply travels to Gaia with no time travel involved. The ship's disappearance and reappearance in a flash of light was merely the ship going to warp speed, just like many other spacecraft of science fiction.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars II'', Apache is a drunkard as part of a Native American stereotype.'''<br /> :[[Apache]] did indeed get drunk in the first episode of the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon, but only in grief, believing (erroneously) that his earlier actions had caused the death of [[Lio Convoy]] (which didn't happen). He did not get drunk again for the duration of the cartoon, nor did he ever do so in the manga. Outside of that, the Native American stereotype &quot;common&quot; to Japanese fictions is a stoic, silent, and often mystical warrior—none of which could be used to accurately describe Apache at all.<br /> :Amusingly enough, in the sixth installment of the ''Beast Wars II'' manga, ''Lio Convoy'' gets drunk for no apparent reason and ends up trashing Apache's room.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWNeo Unicron.JPG|thumb|Looks can be deceiving.]]<br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Unicron was resurrected by possessing the corpse of Galvatron.'''<br /> :This misunderstanding is pretty understandable. In [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]], the coveted [[Angolmois Energy]] is revealed to be the life energy of [[Unicron]], who is successfully resurrected in [[Unicron Revived!?|the very next episode]]. Yet, when he makes his debut, he appears in the form of Galvatron, who had seemingly perished in the [[Farewell! Lio Convoy|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars II''. At first glance, it looks as though Galvatron's corpse had been recovered and used as a vessel to house Unicron's Angolmois Energy, and those who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply assumed this to be the case.<br /> :However, the Japanese dialogue actually states otherwise. Unicron's resurrected form is not Galvatron's physical body, but is actually an energy body made of Angolmois Energy that Unicron has deliberately shaped into resembling the likeness of Galvatron. He takes this form in an initial attempt to trick Magmatron into thinking that he ''is'' Galvatron, impersonating the deceased Predacon leader before revealing his true identity. After which , he simply decided to continue using Galvatron's likewise as his energy body's default appearance, even using Galvatron's name when transforming between dragon and robot modes.<br /> :Ironically, the misconception of Galvatron's body absorbing the Angolmois Energy as a resurrection vessel is almost exactly what Unicron wanted Magmatron to think, with the difference being that Unicron wanted Magmatron to think that the absorption was for Galvatron's revival instead of Unicron's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWN Blentrons absorbed.jpg|thumb|Unicron absorbs the Blentrons for no reasons related Angolmois Energy]]<br /> *'''The Blentrons are made of Angolmois Energy, and are later absorbed by Unicron to fully complete his resurrection.'''<br /> :In [[End of the Maximals!?|Episode 33]] of ''Beast Wars Neo'', the resurrected Unicron reaches Planet Cybertron in his aim to posses [[Vector Sigma]] and turn Cybertron into his new physical body. However, before touching down on the planet, he battles his way through the entire Maximal space fleet, utterly annihilating it and exhausting much of his power in the process. In his weakened state, he is then nearly destroyed in a fight with Big Convoy. His loyal minions, the [[Blentron]]s, soon come to Unicron's aid and are promptly absorbed by their master.<br /> :Since Angolmois Energy is Unicron's energy, fans who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply misinterpreted the absorption of the Blentrons as if to say that they too were made up of Angolmois Energy, and that Unicron needed to absorb them to top off the last of his energy needed to complete his resurrection.<br /> :In actuality, the three were absorbed because, in that moment, Unicron had been significantly weakened and needed to replenish his health. Otherwise, he would have been destroyed by Big Convoy's Mammoth Dynamite attack, which almost completely dissipated Unicron's energy body. <br /> :The series didn't actually give any kind of backstory for the Blentrons. While they were creations of Unicron in the manga, no such origin was given in the show. Regardless, the idea of the three being made out of Angolmois Energy was certainly never stated or even suggested, having been born out of this misinterpretation of Unicron absorbing them to save his own life.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Beast Machines''====<br /> *'''A ''Beast Machines'' writer said, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns.&quot;'''<br /> :''Beast Machines'' was the first (but not the last) ''Transformers'' series to explicitly avoid all hand-held projectile [[weapon]]ry. While the [[Vehicon (BM)|villains]] still had traditional &quot;blasters&quot; mounted on their bodies, some of the [[Maximal|heroes]]' weapons were more esoteric (such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]'s energy-web attack, activated by putting her hands on the ground, or [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s gauntlets, powered by absorbing enemy fire). According to story editor [[Bob Skir]], this creative decision was agreed upon between the story editors, [[Fox Kids]], [[Mainframe Entertainment]], and [[Hasbro]],&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot;&gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222040119/http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Sat_06_Nov_1999.html Archived Q&amp;A from Bob Skir's now-defunct website,] where Skir responds to the gun controversy (question 7).&lt;/ref&gt; and it is indeed reflected in the toys as well. <br /> <br /> :Note that many Maximals had weaponry that was functionally no different from a &quot;gun&quot;—compare [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]'s hip-mounted energy cannons, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]'s back-mounted sonic blaster, or Optimus Primal's chest-mounted energy disc launcher to [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]'s shoulder-mounted ray guns or [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]'s wrist-mounted energy... tossing thingies. <br /> <br /> :On his website, Skir also elaborated on his own position as a writer choosing if or how to portray gun use, including this statement: &quot;Our heroes use their wiles and resourcefulness, plus a few cool weapons. Guns? I've never been a fan of them myself, and do not write heroes who need them.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://members.aol.com/zobovor/guns.html Article on the fan Dave &quot;Zobovor&quot; Edwards' personal site,] quoting Bob Skir's original gun statement.&lt;/ref&gt; Some fans interpreted Skir as condemning ''all'' gun use, even in the real world, no matter the circumstances. This led to the misquote, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns,&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/be5e55a90df944bb/b748601b997b3508#b748601b997b3508 Alt.toys.transformers thread] with the misquote and attendant assumptions right at the start.&lt;/ref&gt; which remains a notoriously persistent error in the fandom. Skir, responding to the controversy, said on his site that &quot;there '''are''' heroes who '''do''' need guns (such as the [[Punisher]]). Spider-Man doesn't need guns. Neither does the [[Hulk]]. And neither do Optimus, Cheetor, Black Arachnia{{sic}}, et al.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot; /&gt;<br /> :Notably, the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|series]] [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|immediately]] [[Movie (franchise)|following]] ''Beast Machines'' did return to classic hand-held gun use among both heroes and villains. However, the later ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' series once again eschewed guns, probably because of its younger target audience.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''The ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline was known as &quot;Transformers 2000&quot; in Japan.'''<br /> :As information about the then-new [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'' toyline]] began to trickle out of Japan in 2000, early rumors purportedly from Japanese sources indicated that it was officially named &quot;Transformers 2000&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Transformers 2000&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e6436b92178f0c0a&lt;/ref&gt; It's possible those Japanese sources were also going by early, inaccurate rumors or perhaps a soon-to-be-discarded working title for the line. The idea persisted with many Western fans well after the true name of the show was revealed, encouraged by online import retailers (who were equally misinformed) using the title to promote pre-orders on their sites.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Robots in Disguise'' Side Burn was so complex, the toy's designer later apologized.'''<br /> :Basically. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'']] [[Side Burn (RID)|Speedbreaker]] was the first ''Transformers'' toy designed by [[Hironori Kobayashi]], and it kind of shows. In a later interview, he admitted that the development process was a &quot;painful experience&quot; and an &quot;admonition&quot; to do better in the future.&lt;ref name=&quot;Translated interview at ToyboxDX&quot;&gt;http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?3,97799,97800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''Unlike the English version, Gigatron (Megatron) has multiple personalities, a different one for each of his modes.'''<br /> :This seems to have arisen from how, in the Japanese version, Gigatron's bat and dragon modes each have their own unique-sounding voice and way of speaking. The Gigabat voice is higher-pitched, a bit dim-sounding, and speaks like how older people used to speak during Japan's Edo period, ending most of its dialogue with &quot;deansu&quot; (であんす). For the Gigadragon mode, Gigatron speaks with a much deeper, angrier, and overall more aggressive-sounding voice. Both of these differ from his much calmer and more &quot;normal&quot; sounding voice in robot mode (which he also used in each of his other modes), and are most noticeable in the first episode, in which Gigatron makes heavy use of both his Gigabat and Gigadragon modes.<br /> :By contrast, the English ''Robots in Disguise'' version gave Megatron one voice for all of his modes, and rewrote his personality to be much more theatrical and ill-tempered. This in turn made his English voice sound like a combination of the two unique Japanese voices, combining the over-the-top aspects of the Gigabat voice with the seething aggression of the Gigadragon voice.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Unicron Trilogy misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers: Armada'' (2002)====<br /> *'''Micron Legend is the Japanese dub of Armada, that was done later for Japanese audiences.'''<br /> : This misconception seems to be caused by how the series was more commonly known as Armada among most fans and that Armada came out sooner than Micron Legend. In reality, however, the notion that Micron Legend was just the Japanese dub of Armada that was done later for Japanese audiences is flat out incorrect. <br /> <br /> The series was originally initiated and produced in Japanese as Micron Legend, but due to various executive meddling by both Hasbro/Takara and Cartoon Network, the English dub of Armada was severely rushed out and released to the English-speaking market much sooner than Micron Legend in Japan, which creates the confusion that Armada was the “original” while Micron Legend is mistaken as “Just the dub for Japanese audiences”.<br /> <br /> ==Live-action film series misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers'' (2007)====<br /> [[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Look! No 2007 movie!]]<br /> *'''The movie series takes place in the Generation 1 timeline in Japan.'''<br /> : This is another one of those instances where one TakaraTomy thing, very early in the life cycle of a new ''Transformers'' [[franchise]], will say one thing about said franchise, and then literally ''everything else ever'' will say another.<br /> <br /> : When the live-action movie series was getting started, TakaraTomy went live with their &quot;World of Transformers&quot; website. The website timeline appeared to make the rather bizarre claim that the 2007 live-action movie also somehow took place in the Japanese Generation 1 continuity, between ''The Transformers: The Movie'' and ''Transformers 2010'' in the year 2007. However, this was ''not'' reflected by the site's accompanying flow-chart, and was established to not be the case by the [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|''Kiss Players'' timeline]] (which noted that the movie-verse Autobots and Decepticons came from another universe when they appeared in [[Transformers: Beast Wars Diorama Story|''Beast Wars Diorama Story'']]). And of course, nothing else ever attempted to make the connection.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Transformers'' was nearly rated R by the MPAA.'''<br /> : In the spring of 2007, it was reported that ''{{w|Disturbia (film)|Disturbia}}'', a then-upcoming [[DreamWorks]] film starring [[Shia LaBeouf]] and produced by [[Steven Spielberg]], had received an R rating from the {{w|Motion Picture Association of America}}. That film's rating was eventually lowered to PG-13 on appeal, but in the meantime some ''Transformers'' fans became confused and believed that it was ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' that had been rated R, leading to some heated discussion on ''Transformers'' message boards.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MovieCreditsNoBrawl.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Invisible credit.]]<br /> *'''Brawl is named in the credits.'''<br /> <br /> : The Decepticon tank, who was named &quot;Devastator&quot; in a subtitle in the movie, ended up being named &quot;[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]&quot; in [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toy line]]. Both Hasbro and the screenwriters, [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]], have expressly favored the toy's name, referring to the name in the movie as an &quot;error&quot;.<br /> <br /> : Since the character has a &quot;speaking&quot; line in the movie, some fans claim that the voice actor is named in the ending credits, and the character's name is stated as &quot;Brawl&quot; there. In fact, however, there's no credit ''at all'' for the character, under either name, as he has no voice actor, his &quot;speaking role&quot; being little more than echo-y electronic gibberish.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BanachekMustacheMan.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|One of these is not like the others.]]<br /> *'''The Decepticons' hologram is Tom Banachek.'''<br /> <br /> : Several Decepticons in the movie are seen using a holographic &quot;pilot&quot;/&quot;driver&quot; based on the same short-haired, mustache-clad human with an intense stare, only wearing different clothes to match their respective [[alternate mode]]s. Since [[Tom Banachek]], the head of [[Sector Seven]]'s Advanced Research Division, also sports a mustache, a short-cropped hairstyle and a pretty intense stare, many fans mistakenly believe that the Decepticons' hologram is meant to look like him.<br /> <br /> : There are two problems with that. One, the Decepticons' hologram, dubbed &quot;[[Moustache Man]]&quot; in the credits, is played by real-life United States Air Force Major [[Brian Reece]], whereas Tom Banachek is portrayed by established actor [[Michael O'Neill]].<br /> <br /> :Two... how would the Decepticons know who Banachek even was to model a hologram after him?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Revenge of the Fallen''====<br /> *'''Barricade's return?'''<br /> :A common misconception among fans is that [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang alternate mode was spotted on the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', possibly as part of the alleged &quot;disinformation campaign&quot; director [[Michael Bay]] repeatedly insisted he had initiated. In fact, however, a truck transporting three &quot;Barricade&quot; prop vehicles was spotted in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than ''two months'' before principal shooting for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' started.&lt;ref name=&quot;vehspotted&quot;&gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; There's been no indication that this had any significance other than moving the prop cars... someplace. Barricade would not make his reappearance until the ''next'' movie, ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Dark of the Moon''====<br /> *'''Optimus Prime let the Decepticons take over Chicago.'''<br /> :Given the comparatively darker tone—and a decidedly more ruthless interpretation of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—of the first five live-action films when compared to the majority of the ''Transformers'' franchise, one common criticism of ''Dark of the Moon'' was Prime's apparent complacency in the face of the Decepticon attack on [[Chicago]] after the destruction of the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''—sometimes interpreted by some fans and critics as him &quot;teaching Earth a lesson&quot; after humanity unanimously agrees to exile Prime's Autobots in the hopes of appeasing [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. This reading of the film seems to misinterpret Prime's line of &quot;now your leaders will understand&quot; and &quot;we needed them to believe that we had gone&quot; as Prime having engineered the entire crisis for his own political gain; the second line assuredly refers to the ''Decepticons'', as Optimus and company faking their deaths allowed the heroes to sneak to Chicago and catch Megatron's forces by surprise. Even without the script, Cape Canaveral and Chicago are ''very'' far apart; if we assume that the Autobots hightailed it to Chicago seconds after splashing down in the Atlantic, it would ''still'' take them about eighteen hours to get there, a time discrepancy that more or less matches up with the way events play out onscreen.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Bumblebee''====<br /> *'''Bumblebee is a reboot, and is separate from the rest of the &quot;Bayverse&quot;'''.<br /> : ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' was initially conceived as a straight prequel to the ''Transformers'' films, chronologically falling between the [[World War II]] flashback sequences seen in ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]'' and the 2007 ''Transformers'' film. However, the movie was hastily retooled relatively late into production, tweaking the film's opening to show Bumblebee arriving on Earth in the 1980s, and, as a result, became more-or-less irreconcilable with both the information given by the ''The Last Knight'' and the various prequel comics that had gone before. Likely due to a combination of wishful thinking and resentment of the Bay films, members of the fandom and various mainstream nerd sites quickly jumped on the idea that ''Bumblebee'' was now a &quot;reboot&quot; of the film series as a whole, similar to the {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe}}'s interpretation of [[Spider-Man]] vs. his prior two cinematic outings—though both [[Hasbro]] and [[Paramount Pictures]] have been fairly mum on just how ''Bumblebee'' and the five prior Bay films will fit together moving forward: the closest we've gotten to a conclusive answer is that the film represents the start of a &quot;new storytelling universe,&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467064/looks-like-bumblebee-is-officially-the-start-of-a-new-transformers-movie-universe &quot;Looks Like Bumblebee is Officially The Start Of A New Transformers Movie Universe]&lt;/ref&gt; which is... a pretty ambiguous statement, to say the least. Other fiction, such as the ''[[Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome]]'' comic included with the home media release of the film, has continued to tie the events of ''Bumblebee'' to the rest of the live-action film series, suggesting Hasbro is at least maintaining its prequel status for now.<br /> <br /> : This vaguery has only continued in the lead-up to ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]'', with the only official statement being their desire to avoid the &quot;timeline&quot; of the first five films. This is almost certainly meant to refer to the time''frame'' of the preceding films' events, with ''Rise of the Beasts'' being yet another prequel story set before the 2007 film, rather than any kind of alternate timeline. Either way, for the moment, we're no closer to a definitive answer.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==''Animated'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Hasbro can't make new toys based on Animated characters without Cartoon Network's approval.'''<br /> <br /> : While not rooted in any specific source, there has been a longstanding misconception that because they produced the cartoon and collaborated with Hasbro on the toy designs, [[Cartoon Network]] maintains partial (if not complete) ownership over the character designs in ''Transformers Animated'', and is thus the reason why no new toys of the characters have been released in years.<br /> <br /> : In truth, Hasbro owns ''Animated'' lock, stock, and barrel. A quick glance at the legal jargon on the back of any ''Animated'' toy packaging will show Hasbro as the sole [[copyright]] holder listed. In fact, the only legalese mentioning Cartoon Network is the [[trademark]] for their own name and logo, due to printing &quot;AS SEEN ON CN!&quot; on the box. A handful of ''Animated'' toys were also released after the show ended via [[Fun Publications]], which also listed Hasbro as the sole copyright holder. Similarly, Cartoon Network goes unmentioned in the copyrights for other merchandise like DVDs and tie-in comics. In Japan, the [[Blackarachnia (Animated)#Toys|''Animated'' Blackarachnia toy]] was even retooled years after ''Animated'' ended to create the [[Blackarachnia (BW)/toys#Legends|''Legends'' toy for ''Beast Wars'' Blackarachnia]], again with no mention of Cartoon Network anywhere.<br /> <br /> : The only place you'll find a Cartoon Network copyright is in the credits of the episodes themselves, but Hasbro appears to have long since bought out whatever rights Cartoon Network retained, hence their ability to freely upload ''Animated'' clips to their YouTube channels and make it available for streaming alongside their other ''Transformers'' cartoons on services like [[Tubi]] (very much unlike [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)#Production|the one show we know they ''don't'' have all the rights to]]). And in either case, as mentioned above, it wouldn't prevent them from making new toys using those characters or designs. A much more likely explanation is Hasbro simply wanting new toys to fit a certain aesthetic, one that ''Animated''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s designs don't quite fit. So instead, they simply choose to adapt the characters to fit the new medium, such as with [[Bulkhead (Prime)|''Prime'' Bulkhead]] or [[Clobber (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Clobber]]. The most overt case of this is the 2015 release of the [[Slipstream (Animated)#Legends|''Legends'' Slipstream toy]], retooled from the non-''Animated'' [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Windblade toy]] but explicitly spelled out to be the ''Animated'' character via the [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|accompanying issue]] of the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Legends'' comic]], which itself featured multiple cameos by ''Animated'' characters.<br /> <br /> : Basically, there's nothing stopping them from making new toys based on ''Animated'' characters if they wanted to... they just don't want to.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The Japanese dub of ''Transformers Animated'' presents it as a prequel to the live-action movies.'''<br /> <br /> : This appears to have ''some'' basis: back in March 2010, the then-recent edition of ''[[TV Magazine]]'' published some early pre-release information about the Japanese dub of the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'' cartoon]]. Among the details announced was the name-change of [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to &quot;Ironhide&quot;, and changing his character to be closer in personality to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] from the [[live-action film series|live-action movies]]. The article allegedly also claimed that because [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] was not Supreme Commander of the Autobots in ''Animated'', the cartoon would be &quot;set chronologically before the live action movies&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tvmagani&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/latest-edition-of-tv-magazine-reveals-new-transformers-animated-japan-details-169265/ TFW2005 reporting on ''TV Magazine'' article about the Japanese dub of the ''Transformers Animated'' cartoon], March 2010.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : In actuality, however, not much of this has been reflected in the dub itself: aside from the aforementioned renaming of Bulkhead into &quot;Ironhide&quot;, there's nothing in the Japanese dub that ties the ''Animated'' cartoon any closer to the live-action movies than its American counterpart.<br /> <br /> : TakaraTomy chose to use the movie-style branding for ''Animated'' products, rendering the &quot;Transformers Animated&quot; logo in the gray steel look used for the movies.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Aligned Continuity misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''''Transformers: Prime'' was not initially planned to have any toys.'''<br /> :The [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|toy line]] for ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' was ''very'' delayed, debuting roughly a year after the associated cartoon had premiered. Previously, at a [[BotCon 2010]] panel about the then-upcoming ''Prime'' cartoon, a Hasbro representative had made a statement that they weren't talking about toys just then. ''Transformers'' fandom being [[Red Alert (G1)|what]] [[Breakdown (G1)|it is]], a widespread belief developed that Hasbro was never going to make ''Prime'' toys ''at all.'' As additional information gradually surfaced, this evolved into a rumor that ''Prime'' would only have a small number of toys, with some further speculating that they would also be limited to the Deluxe [[size class]] (since initially only Deluxes had been seen). The eventual revelation of a full ''Prime'' toyline caused the belief to evolve once more, with the new theory being that there wasn't ''originally'' going to be a ''Prime'' toyline, but Hasbro changed their minds due to demand.<br /> :The reality, as usual, was much less apocalyptic. The statement from the Hasbro Studios panel was never intended to refer to anything except the panel itself—the people ''in that room'' weren't going to be discussing toys ''at that panel''. (In fact, [[Eric Siebenaler]] expressed excitement about [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'s toy at the very same panel.) As for the delay in the line's launch, put simply, this was for appearance's sake. Hasbro wanted to establish ''Prime'' as a strong ''fictional'' franchise, rather than merely [[To sell toys|a glorified toy commercial]], and reasonably concluded that launching a toyline immediately would detract from that goal. There ''was'' a point when a few ''Prime'' toys were planned to be released under the ''[[Transformers: Generations]]'' banner, but since ''Generations'' was at that time exclusively Deluxes, the aforementioned Bulkhead (a Voyager) indicates that this idea had already been abandoned when the rumors started.<br /> :In short, this is just a matter of fans jumping to conclusions based on misinterpreted statements.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The High Moon Studios games are part of G1.'''<br /> {{quote|We really did look very closely at Generation 1 stuff and tried to capture what for us was the essence of the characters.|[[Sean Miller]], Director Character and Animation|[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]}}<br /> :With its designs aiming at a video gamer audience who grew up with [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], the development team for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'' took a great deal of inspiration from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]] for such things as characters and the design aesthetic for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]&lt;/ref&gt; A [[Commercial#War for Cybertron|commercial]] even depicted Shockwave ordering Soundwave to play [[The Touch|a song]] made famous by the [[The Transformers: The Movie|original animated movie]]. Furthermore, War for Cybertron toys were sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline that featured Generation 1-styled characters. These factors led many to believe the game was actually part of Generation 1.<br /> <br /> :To be fair, there was and is virtually no information available to the average fan that ''War for Cybertron'' is not part of Generation 1. Hasbro has essentially been folding ''War for Cybertron'' into their modern continuity, and have been informing dedicated fans of this fact through [[Hasbro Q&amp;A|question and answer sessions]].&lt;ref&gt;&quot;The official story of the original 13 and specifically Alpha Trion has not been explored fully in the modern continuity that Transformers War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are a part of.&quot; [[Hasbro Q&amp;A/September 2010: Answers]]&lt;/ref&gt; The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|''War for Cybertron'' comic adaptation]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline] actually are adaptations from ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'', which is the basis for the new modern continuity fiction.<br /> <br /> :Canonically, both WfC and its sequel ''Fall of Cybertron'' are in the Aligned continuity, but beyond suggestions and mandatory changes from Hasbro, High Moon Studios doesn't seem to care about Hasbro's declarations of canon. In the art book for the sequel to WfC, ''[[The Art of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'', the only influences of the concept art and designs mentioned are G1 related. Dreamwave, the original cartoon, and other concepts and ideas from Generation 1 are cited, but the fact that Cliffjumper's head is based off of ''Prime'' Cliffjumper's is not mentioned, nor are the modifications to Optimus Prime's gun, Megatron's new body, [[Tox-En]], or the other assorted influences from Prime. <br /> <br /> :[[High Moon Studios]] has often described the games as prequels to the G1 cartoon. More savvy fans would recognize that the game is generally irreconcilable with the cartoon (or any other Generation 1 continuity for that matter): the circumstances of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s rise to power would contradict &quot;[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]&quot;, and Optimus's [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|predecessor]] does not possess the Matrix, unlike his [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#The Transformers cartoon|cartoon counterpart]]. The Autobots left Cybertron because the [[Core]] shut down, not because energy sources were depleted, and characters like [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]], [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbots]], and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] wouldn't be on Cybertron or even ''exist''. Additionally, the game draws inspiration from other continuities, including characters not from Generation 1 like [[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] and [[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]]. The game does share a lot of similarities with Dreamwave's ''[[War Within (franchise)|War Within]]'' series (where Jetfire and Trypticon are present), but it cannot take place in that continuity either.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Companies==<br /> ===Marvel Comics===<br /> *'''John Romita designed the Generation 1 character models.'''<br /> :The rumor here comes about through a misreading of the credits to ''[[The Transformers Universe]]''. Legendary Marvel Comics artist John Romita, Sr. was listed as &quot;Art Director&quot;, leading readers to assume that he was in charge of designing or developing the various [[character model]]s used in the series (and reprinted in said comic). However, Romita was actually the Art Director for Marvel Comics as a whole at the time. The majority of the character models were in fact done by [[Floro Dery]], who went uncredited.&lt;ref&gt;See [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/11/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-85/ Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed] for more information.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===TakaraTomy===<br /> *'''Takara was taken over by Tomy.'''<br /> :In 2005, it was announced that Takara, longtime Japanese manufacturer/distributor of Transformers toys, and former competitor Tomy would merge into a new company, named [[TakaraTomy]], as of [[March 1]], 2006. Some fans misinterpreted the media coverage, believing that Takara had been bought out by rival Tomy. This was not helped by official press releases declaring Tomy the &quot;surviving company&quot;, Tomy having the majority of shares, and the merged company simply going by the name &quot;Tomy&quot; outside Japan.<br /> :The name issue is easily explained, as it was done for purely pragmatic reasons. &quot;Tomy&quot; is an internationally established brand, since the company already had divisions in many other countries prior to the merger, and distributed their toys under their own name there. Takara, meanwhile, had mostly abandoned ventures into international markets years ago, and had its products distributed through other companies (such as [[Hasbro]]) instead. Therefore, the merged company decided to use the better-known name for its international business, while it would continue as &quot;TakaraTomy&quot; within Japan itself.<br /> :Now, as for the specifics of the merger... Although the merger ratio was set at 0.356 of a Tomy share for each Takara share (including a split of Tomy's stock), and the companies announced a layoff of 15% of their combined workforce mostly on the Takara side, the term &quot;merger&quot; (as compared to &quot;take-over&quot;) was prominently used in all the official announcements by the two companies, and twisting tiny details into a de facto &quot;takeover&quot; of Takara by Tomy is effectively splitting hairs.<br /> <br /> *'''e-Hobby is owned by Takara (TakaraTomy).'''<br /> :The [[e-HOBBY]] shop is owned by Part One, Ltd. Although the company has had close ties with Takara for decades, the online store also sells toys by other companies, primarily TakaraTomy's rival [[Bandai]].<br /> :The online store ''directly'' owned by TakaraTomy, meanwhile, is [[TakaraTomy Mall]] (formerly Toy Hobby Market).<br /> <br /> ===IDW Publishing===<br /> *'''Hasbro pays IDW to publish comics for them, and profit directly from the comics selling well.'''<br /> :Presumably stemming from the fact that most Transformers ''cartoons'' are commissioned by Hasbro in order to advertise their toys, a lot of fans are under the impression that Hasbro pays IDW Publishing and other licensees to produce ''Transformers'' comics for them. This is the exact opposite of how licensed comics work; IDW pays Hasbro for the privilege of publishing ''Transformers'' comics, and IDW keeps all the profits outside of that licensing fee. As such, Hasbro doesn't have any particular investment in the comics selling well, other than their indirect effects on toy sales and potential negative press caused by &quot;failing&quot; comics; all that matters to Hasbro is that they sell well enough that IDW keep paying for the license.<br /> <br /> *'''The [[Hasbro Universe]] was pushed on IDW by Hasbro.'''<br /> :While Hasbro is mostly hands-off with IDW's comics, one of the terms of the license is that IDW needs to work with Hasbro to do [[To sell toys|occasional promotion]] for new and upcoming toys; this most obviously took place with events such as [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]], [[Combiner Wars (comic)|Combiner Wars]] and [[Titans Return (comic)|Titans Return]] — and, if we're being honest, has resulted in some of the less popular arcs from &quot;phase 2&quot; of IDW.&lt;ref&gt;[[James Roberts]] has apologised on multiple occasions for Dark Cybertron, which says a lot.&lt;/ref&gt; As such, when IDW announced that they were bringing [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|several]] [[Rom|other]] [[Action Man|Hasbro-]][[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|owned]] [[Micronauts|franchises]] into their [[2005 IDW continuity|acclaimed Transformers universe]], a lot of fans assumed that this was the result of another Hasbro mandate, especially given their stated desire to have a &quot;Transformers {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe|Cinematic Universe}}.&quot; It also bore a startling resemblance to the shuttered plans to use the [[Aligned continuity family]] to launch a shared universe, even sharing the name of [[Unit:E]]. However, the creative teams involved were open from the start about the decision being an internal one that IDW had to ask Hasbro for permission to do.<br /> :Reportedly, the decision stemmed from IDW obtaining multiple additional Hasbro licenses, and [[Chris Ryall]] and [[Christos Gage]] suggesting that G.I. Joe appear in their ''ROM'' comic; this led to [[John Barber]] bringing up [[Andrew Griffith]]'s suggestion that IDW's ''G.I. Joe'' universe could fit &quot;between&quot; big ''Transformers'' events, which led to all of them suggesting to [[Cullen Bunn]] that the Earth that the [[Micronaut]]s visited be the ''ROM''/''Transformers''/''G.I. Joe'' one... and, well, it all spiralled from there. Hasbro were apparently very on board with the idea, but it was far from something that they pushed onto unwilling creators.<br /> <br /> *'''The Hasbro Universe comics are responsible for the ending of the 2005 IDW continuity.'''<br /> :Given that IDW announced that they were concluding their [[2005 IDW continuity|main continuity]] less than two years after the VERY controversial Hasbro Universe was first announced, a lot of fans were under the impression that the shared universe, and the relaunch of [[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|''The Transformers'']] and [[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|''More than Meets the Eye'']] into ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' and [[The Transformers: Lost Light|''Lost Light'']], were responsible for tanking sales to the point that IDW decided that it would be more profitable to reboot.<br /> :However, the reason that those titles were relaunched in the ''first'' place is that their sales were on an unsustainable downwards spiral; and, other than a brief sales spike for the [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|first]] [[New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|issues]] of the relaunched series, the relaunch did pretty much nothing to the sales trends, which continued to decrease at the same level as they had from around the 51st issues to the relaunch.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/670-general-comics-discussion/page-60#entry3661883 Sales chart of the Phase 2 IDW ongoings]&lt;/ref&gt; While the Hasbro Universe titles generally didn't sell ''great'', they didn't affect the sales of the ongoing ''Transformers'' series.<br /> <br /> *'''Chris Ryall was kicked out of IDW because he conspired to break Hasbro mandates.'''<br /> :He ''really'' wasn't, guys. In fact, he was [http://hasbrouniverse.libsyn.com/interview-chris-ryall outright surprised by the idea that this was a rumor going around].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist|2}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20121116134912/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 Ten popular but incorrect rumors about Japanese Transformers, retrieved November 16, 2012] (archived)<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Fandom]]<br /> [[Category:Lists]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers&diff=1598107 Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers 2022-03-14T01:46:28Z <p>YellowCorvette: </p> <hr /> <div>Over the years, many '''misconceptions and urban legends''' have sprung up within ''Transformers'' [[fandom]], often resulting from such factors as fuzzy childhood memories, inaccurate catalog illustrations, and mistranslations of foreign material.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==General misconceptions==<br /> *'''''Transformers'' is (only) a cartoon from the Eighties that was brought back into vogue with the 2007 movie.'''<br /> <br /> : A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that ''Transformers'' went away some time around 1986 (or 1987, or 1988—pick your year). People who stumbled across a newer incarnation of the ''Transformers'' franchise before 2007 commonly assumed that it had only recently popped back up as an attempt to cash in on '80s nostalgia. From 2007 onwards, people who were (obviously) aware of the [[live-action film series]] commonly believed that it was the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]] that brought the franchise back from limbo. Neither assumption is correct.<br /> <br /> :In fact, the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]] has been continuous since 1984 (there was a brief gap between 1990 and 1993 as far as the United States market was concerned, but the brand still continued with new products in other markets). It includes many [[Franchises|lines of toys, cartoons and comics]] that span almost four decades, with no sign of stopping, as Hasbro considers it a core brand. Each line has experienced varying degrees of success, rebooting when its target audience gets too old or uninterested in the toyline and fiction. <br /> <br /> :Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise long before its initial US cancellation (as it wasn't &quot;cool&quot; to be kiddy once puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that ''Transformers'' has sunk in popularity, quality and/or sales, since it's not what they remember. <br /> <br /> :It ''is'' true that ''Transformers'' hit a low point of popularity in the early 1990s, with the cancelation of Generation 1 and the unremarkable sales of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. But the successor ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' line re-established the brand for a new generation beginning in 1996, and ''Transformers'' has been a dominant toy franchise ever since. While it's true that the live-action movies caused a major hike in popularity for the brand, they didn't revive a long-forgotten franchise; rather, they merely turned a steadily successful toy series into a major worldwide multimedia phenomenon.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Generation 1 obviously has the best toys, cartoons and characters.'''<br /> <br /> :Casual fans likewise tend to assume automatically that the original 1980s iteration of ''Transformers'' is the best and most successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.<br /> <br /> :While it's hard to measure the overall success of every line in all its aspects, the original line has been surpassed in both quality and sales multiple times over (if not for warm-fuzzy nostalgia-feels in 80s kids). In factors such as realistic alternate forms, durability, articulation, action features, and complexity, various later toylines have all exceeded Generation 1. And while fiction can't be measured objectively, many fans will swear up and down by some of the later incarnations of ''Transformers''.<br /> <br /> :Arguably, ''Transformers'' is in an endless cycle of creating [[true fan|new fans who share new opinions on what is &quot;teh greatest&quot;]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SteamhammerEnergonUniverse.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Not literally a waste of packaging material.]]<br /> *'''&quot;Repackaged&quot; toys are ''literally'' unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of the old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to stores.'''<br /> <br /> :Every so often, a ''Transformers'' toy line features seemingly identical toys in multiple different [[packaging]] versions, such as multi-packs containing toys that were previously available separately. In addition, some toy lines also feature [[rebranding|rebranded]] items, namely toys that were originally released under one line, but are later re-released as part of another line with virtually no changes to the toy itself, only the packaging it is available in. The final stages of the original ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line took the concept of &quot;rebranding&quot; to a new level, featuring numerous straight re-releases of toys from the since-ended ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' lines, among many others. Since then, it has been repeated with the 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' line, the 2008 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, the 2010 ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' line and many others. Because a common [[fandom]] term for those releases is &quot;repackages&quot;, a popular misconception claims that those toys are ''literally'' &quot;repackages&quot;: namely, unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of their old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to (different) stores. (The same train of thought also—very rarely—suggests that &quot;repaints&quot;, another common fan term for [[redeco]]s, are ''literally'' &quot;[[repaint]]s&quot;, i.e. existing toys painted over in new colors, rather than new production runs from the same toolings using new plastic colors.)<br /> <br /> :Needless to say, this theory is dubious for various reasons. Generally, old unsold toys are ''not'' sent back to Hasbro. They either [[Shelfwarmer|remain in the store]] until someone finally decides to buy them, or the store somehow dumps them, such as by selling them off to closeout chains. And even ''if'' Hasbro did regularly get sent back huge shipments of unsold toys, they'd be highly unlikely to go through the effort (and additional cost) of literally repackaging them. Hasbro confirmed this in January of 2009, stating that due to the toys being manufactured in Asia, it would be a waste of time and money to repackage them only to sell them at the same price-point.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&amp;p2_articleid=1934 SirStevesGuide.com, Tri-Weekly Hasbro Q&amp;A - January 30th]&lt;/ref&gt; Thus, they are ''not'' repackaged old product, but new production runs of previous product. These days, this misconception should be much easier to dispel: Every toy now features a manufacturing date stamp etched into the figure, as well as a product code [[tampograph]]ed onto the figure, thus proving that a figure was manufactured more recently than its superficially identical predecessor.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> [[File:SmokesniperStarscream.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|The similarities are astounding. Especially those that aren't there.]]<br /> *'''A new toy that is vaguely reminiscent of an older toy is a retool of said toy.'''<br /> <br /> :Hasbro likes to [[redeco]] toys a lot (usually to recoup the R&amp;D costs for developing the original [[mold]]). They also like to release redecos of toys from older lines in newer lines. In some instances, Hasbro also don't just redeco a toy, they [[retool]] it (or create new toolings for new parts that replace parts of the old version of the toy)—sometimes to improve a feature or fix an error, but sometimes also to give the toy new features or [[gimmick]]s, or simply to make it different enough from the original version so owners of the original version would be interested in buying the &quot;retool&quot; as well.<br /> <br /> :Some of those retools are comparably minor (such as [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] from the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]]), whereas others can be pretty elaborate. Sometimes the retools are so elaborate that the line between &quot;retool&quot; and &quot;new [[mold]]&quot; gets blurred. The most drastic instances in this regard would be [[K-9]] from ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' (based on [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] from the same line) and [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]] from ''Cybertron'' (based on the original ''Cybertron'' Crumplezone toy), both of which have most, if not ''all'' of their parts entirely retooled. Another borderline case would be the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con]]s [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], which were released around the same time and are based on the same basic design, share a similar body structure and have very similar [[alternate mode]]s.<br /> <br /> :However, sometimes fans ''definitely'' get too far decrying a new toy a &quot;retool&quot; (or &quot;remold&quot;). Toys that share some superficial design similarities, coupled with similar transformation schemes, are often mistaken for retools even though they're simply that: Similar toys based on the same general design, maybe even directly influenced by the older toy, but nothing more. For more examples, see: [[retool#Not actually a retool|retool]].<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''Hasbro is responsible for your local store not having the newest toys right now.'''<br /> <br /> : Hasbro actually has almost nothing to do with distribution (when Product A arrives in Store B) beyond making sure the manufactured product leaves the factories and shipyards of China at the desired time. Once the items arrive on US shores, they are almost immediately sent from the ships to the distribution centers for the retail chains that ordered them. From there, it's more truck rides to various regional warehouses, which is all controlled by the retailers, not Hasbro. After that, the schedule for taking product from those warehouses and putting it on shelves is dictated by each chain's inventory system.<br /> <br /> : It's ''conceivable'' that Hasbro could take more control of the situation, but that would require chains like Wal-Mart to release the vise-like death grip they have on manufacturers' nuts that lets them dictate how the system works—and they're sooooooo not doing that.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|Older collectors}}<br /> *'''Hasbro should totally cater to the wishes of older collectors, as they purchase the most ''Transformers'' product.'''<br /> <br /> : Fans would like to think they've got some sway over the direction of the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. After all, they've been buying toys for many years (as opposed to the limited purchasing span of most children), and they buy many ''more'' toys than any individual child. And in truth, Hasbro does pay attention to the desires and discussions of its older buyers, even designing certain line segments like ''Alternators'' or ''Classics'' and its successors with collectors as the primary target audience.<br /> <br /> : Collectors, however, simply can't compare to the vast numbers of children out there whose parents buy [[Transformer]]s for them. The bulk of ''Transformers'' product is purchased for and/or by young children, and if a company like Hasbro wants to stay in business and keep making money (and by extension, more toys), it must design and market its products accordingly. No accurate figures exist on the collector/children ratio, but estimates mentioned at BotCon panels range from around 10% to 20% of all purchases coming from older collectors—enough to be worth listening to, but not at all the driving force behind the brand. Past toylines have shown that betting ''too much'' on sales from adult collectors can be disastrous.<br /> <br /> : Furthermore, it's not as though the [[fandom|fans]] speak with a unified voice. More often, for every fan pushing for one particular idea, there's another fan who thinks that same idea is boring or [[Ruined FOREVER|awful]].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Takara vs. Hasbro===<br /> [[File:Cybertrontoy hasbro and takara vector primes.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Vector Prime]] features different color applications dependent on whether it was released in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] or [[Hasbro]]'s market.]]<br /> *'''Takara (alternatively, Hasbro) are ''solely'' responsible for designing, developing and manufacturing (all, or certain specific) ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> <br /> : This was true only for the original [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toys]], and possibly also the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toys]]. Most of the toys from 1984 to 1986 were imported (and, occasionally, slightly altered) versions of already-existing Japanese toys originally designed and released by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]. Following that, Takara developed new toys both for the Japanese and the Western market, now specifically with ''Transformers'' in mind. The primary exceptions are a handful of toys licensed from other Japanese companies (Jetfire, Whirl, and Roadbuster, for example), and the 1986 toys for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]], which were mostly based on designs by [[Floro Dery]].<br /> <br /> : However, ever since 1988,&lt;ref name=&quot;dunsay&quot;&gt;[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/images/full/BC04Dunsay.jpg BotCon 2004 program guide interview with George Dunsay]&lt;/ref&gt; most &quot;main&quot; line toys released both in Japan and the Western hemisphere (such as the [[Unicron Trilogy]], ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'', the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|2007 Movie line]] and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]/[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'') have been designed and developed in cooperation between [[Hasbro]] (or its subsidiary [[Kenner]]) and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] (now TakaraTomy). (For the specifics of this joint venture development process, see the article about [[toy]]s.)<br /> <br /> : Still, numerous reasons have led some people to assume incorrectly that ''all'' ''Transformers'' toy lines were ''solely'' developed by only one of the two companies:<br /> <br /> :*The Western public and mainstream media, naturally, tend to be unaware of the existence of Takara (TakaraTomy these days). It's therefore logical to assume that Hasbro, the company responsible for distributing Transformers toys outside Japan, is also solely responsible for developing and manufacturing the toys. The fact that Hasbro regularly chooses not to mention their Japanese business partner in official press releases and interviews hasn't exactly helped matters, either.<br /> <br /> :*On the other hand, Western anime fans are used to Japanese companies being solely responsible for designing robot toys, which are then imported and sold by Western companies. For lack of better knowledge, those people then simply assume the same also applies to ''Transformers'' toys — namely, that Takara does ''all'' the design and engineering work on their own, and Hasbro is merely the Western ''distributor'' of those toys. The fact that the back of Hasbro's packaging for ''Transformers'' toys sports a small note saying &quot;Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd.&quot; (changed to &quot;TOMY Company, Ltd.&quot; on more recent toys) is occasionally cited as &quot;proof&quot; that Takara is the sole manufacturer of ''Transformers'' toys as well. A long paper trail of evidence to the contrary&lt;ref name=&quot;Hasbro Tour&quot;&gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=70&amp;size=0&amp;start=272 Exemplary rundown] of the development process of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], shown during the Hasbro tour at [[BotCon 2007]]. Of course, Hasbro just replaced the name &quot;Takara&quot; in some of the steps with &quot;Hasbro&quot; in order to convince fans that... yeah, riiiight.&lt;/ref&gt; has not been able to convince those people of the flaws in their conspiracy theory — rather, some of them have even postulated the existence of a so-called &quot;Hasbro PR machine&quot;, whose sole purpose is to convince ''Transformers'' fans that Hasbro has a larger part in the development of ''Transformers'' toys than is actually the case.&lt;ref name=&quot;Propaganda&quot;&gt;[http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,88668 ToyBoxDX thread with anime fanboys arguing that &quot;Takara is an enormous toy '''manufacturing''' company. Hasbro doesn't manufacturer anything. The sole reason for its existence is for marketing the products of their partners and wholly-owned subs. Just to be clear here - Takara is bigger than Hasbro.&quot;] They wouldn't even believe that [[Joe Kyde]] actually worked at Hasbro. No kidding.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : That being said, there ''are'' indeed a few toys originally developed by either Hasbro or Takara without the other one's involvement, and then later picked up by the other company, but they're fewer than usually assumed: For Takara, those include the new molds for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1998 (Beast Wars II)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)#1999 (Beast Wars Neo)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'', plus various mostly short-lived, collector-aimed, niche market lines (such as the new ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' molds, the ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'', the ''[[Hybrid Style]]'' toys etc.); for Hasbro, those are mostly either toys originally based on fiction-based franchises that did not originate with Hasbro (such as ''[[Animorphs]]'' or the ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars Transformers]]'' and their later successor, ''[[Transformers: Crossovers]]''), cross-brand lines ''within'' Hasbro where the Transformers toys only make up one part of the overall lineup (such as the [[Titanium Series]] and the [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) and a few very rare &quot;main&quot; line Transformers toys such as the ''Generation 2'' [[Power Master]]s and [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]], [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], [[Alpha Quintesson]], [[Kicker Jones#Toys|Energon Kicker]] and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''.<br /> <br /> *'''Takara's Japanese-market releases are always of intrinsically better quality than their U.S. counterparts. (E.g., they have sweeter exclusives, and are always more show-accurate, have more accessories, and have tighter quality control.)'''<br /> <br /> : This one depends a bit on the speaker, as it can either be a genuine misconception, a matter of opinion, or at worst, [[Personal canon|willful]] [[True fan|snobbery]]. But, like any broad generalization, it does have some basis.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Better quality&quot; can refer to the fact that Japanese versions of individual toys sometimes have clear plastic instead of painted-on windows like [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Movie Bumblebee]], or have vac-metallized parts where the equivalent U.S. release doesn't, like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Energon'' Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy]]. Or, &quot;better&quot; quality can refer to the fact that Japan is a less litigious society, with different toy safety laws, and Takara can thus give [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Prime]] toys old-school long smokestacks, which are now shortened in the U.S. [[for safety reasons]]. These laws also mean that [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Megatron]] is freely available in Japan, but hard to get in the U.S. (the exact opposite of ''real'' handguns, ironically). In the various forms of [[CHUG]], Takara releases also consistently boast more paint applications (for example, many ''[[Unite Warriors]]'' figures had painted hubcaps while their ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' counterparts went without), something that was ironically reversed in their version of the [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Takara Prime toyline|''Prime'' toyline]].<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] decos&quot; does have some basis, as Takara frequently releases its toys later than Hasbro does Stateside, and thus they are better able to reflect discrepancies between late-run changes to a character's coloration in a show (such as with the original [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] or [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|''Armada'''s Tidal Wave]]). The most extreme example of this was ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)#2005 (Beast Wars Returns)|Beast Wars Returns]]'', the Japanese release of ''Beast Machines'', which was ''years'' later than in the U.S., allowing Takara to add a lot of the deco that was added to the characters by [[Mainframe Entertainment]] that was not accurate to the original toys.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;More accessories&quot; mostly comes from the fact that ''some'' of Takara's releases have some extra accessories, but the only cases of this before the reissues were [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s two [[sword]]s, Megatron's sword and bullets (even though the Japanese release lacked the barrel, scope and stock extensions) and clear cases from the various cassettes. Japanese reissues have included additional accessories from the cartoon (the axe, chain mace, Energon cubes and gun mode Megatron in the ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' reissues of Optimus and Megatron, Insecticons and Starscream, respectively, the Matrix from New Year's Convoy). Some ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Super Link]]'' releases came with [[redeco]]ed [[Energon weapon]]s as well. ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Hot Shot (G1)|Hot Rod]] came with two missile launchers and missiles not included with ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Universe .282008.29|Hot Shot]] due to budget constraints, and featured the original tooling for the rear bumper for their inclusion. In contrast, ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Lambor]] was ''lacking'' the supercharger engine accessory ''Universe'' Sideswipe came with—TakaraTomy officially confirmed that they had ''deliberately omitted the accessory'' to make the toy more &quot;G1-accurate&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;generations2009&quot;&gt;Interview with Hisashi Yuki in [[Transformers Generations 2009|''Transformers Generations 2009'' vol. 1]], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/223379-takaratomy-staff-interview-generations-2009-vol-1-translation.html English translation] at TFW2005.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Sweeter exclusives&quot; is really a matter of taste. If endless redecos of Generation 1 toys as completely unprecedented Generation 1 characters, buying $40 worth of toys you got a month ago for a single [[Mini-Con]], and shelling out half your mortgage for [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] gold chrome figures is what floats your boat, then yeah, Japan has better exclusives.<br /> <br /> :*&quot;Tighter [[quality control]]&quot; is a total myth. Takara products are manufactured under much the same production conditions as Hasbro's: Pretty much everything for both markets is made in China—in fact, according to Hasbro [[Australia]] representatives and Hasbro designer [[Eric Siebenaler]], ''all'' of the Transformers toys jointly developed between Hasbro and Takara/TakaraTomy are manufactured at factories contracted to the Japanese toy company. This means Takara is (at least indirectly) responsible for whatever quality control problems occur with Hasbro-released toys. Takara's standards of quality control for their domestically-released toys are just as likely to let mistakes creep through. Just ask any buyer of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|Thundercracker]] how well his weapons stay attached to the arms. And let's not even get started on ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Rodimus Convoy's]] first production run.<br /> <br /> :*The fields in which Takara genuinely excels Hasbro are comparably minor: Takara's [[stock photography]] generally tends to be more impressive than Hasbro's, without obvious mistransformations and awkward poses, and at the same time looks more representative of the actual toy due to less reliance on blatant digital touch-ups. Likewise, Takara's [[instructions]] tend to be more detailed and useful than Hasbro's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Hasbro lost the rights to a lot of G1 Transformers names. That is why you see toys named &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot; or &quot;Decepticon Brawl&quot; these days. Takara is more competent than Hasbro and doesn't need to change their toys' names.'''<br /> <br /> :That's not quite how name rights —aka [[trademark]]— work. There are indeed instances where another company has snatched a trademark, making it unavailable for Hasbro's use. The reason is because trademarks need to be consistently used in commerce (roughly once every year or so), or it could be considered &quot;abandoned&quot;, making it open for grabs should another company try to claim it. &quot;[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]]&quot; was unavailable to [[Hasbro]] because Mattel held several similar trademarks, &quot;[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]&quot; was too similar to Gendron's &quot;Toledo 'Blue Streak'&quot; trademark, and a company named Lanard held the trademark &quot;Shockwave&quot; until 2005. This prompted Hasbro to use substitute names for toys based on these characters, such as &quot;Rodimus Major&quot; and &quot;Rodimus&quot; for Hot Rod, &quot;Silverstreak&quot; for Bluestreak and &quot;Shockblast&quot; for Shockwave (Hasbro has since managed to reacquire all three aforementioned trademarks).<br /> <br /> :Meanwhile, the names with prefixes such as &quot;Autobot&quot; or &quot;Decepticon&quot;? Those are usually non-compound single real words from the English language. Hasbro's legal department considers them too &quot;generic&quot; to be easily defensible as trademarks, hence the addition of prefixes such as &quot;Autobot Jazz&quot;, &quot;Decepticon Brawl &quot;or &quot;Constructicon Devastator&quot; for better protection. This does ''not'' work with names already trademarked by another company–otherwise, [[Bandai]] could release a toy named &quot;Gunpla Optimus Prime&quot; tomorrow, and Hasbro couldn't do anything about it.<br /> <br /> :For a while, it seemed like these trademark quibbles were limited to Hasbro, and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] was somehow exempt due to a different market situation. However, the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' line saw the emergence of quite a few &quot;Cybertron&quot;, &quot;Destron&quot; and &quot;[[Stunticon (G1)|Stuntron]]&quot; prefixes, implying that the trademark situation on the Japanese market was changing, and starting with the [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|''Movie'' line]], TakaraTomy (now adopting Hasbro names instead of their established Japanese-market names) began to use &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; prefixes. With ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Transformers United|United]]'', TakaraTomy even used prefixes for names Hasbro has been able to use ''without'' prefixes.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Generation 1 Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''A super-rare blue variant of Bluestreak was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:G1 Bluestreak boxart.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|You had this as a kid. The picture, that is. Not the toy.]]<br /> :The very earliest [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] toy [[catalog]]s used a photo of a blue-sided ''[[Diaclone]]'' Fairlady Z to represent [[Bluestreak (G1)/toys|Bluestreak]]; photographs of the same toy were used for Bluestreak's own [[Instructions|instruction booklet]]. The same blue-sided color scheme was also used on his [[Package art|box art]]; which was in turn shown on ''every'' 1984 instruction booklet as a sample tech spec.<br /> :All this gave rise to a long-standing myth that a blue Bluestreak toy was sold under the ''Transformers'' brand during Generation 1, with some people going so far as to &quot;remember&quot; owning blue Bluestreaks as children, or at least knowing someone else who did. Adding to the confusion, ''{{w|ToyFare}}'' magazine had a long history of listing the supposed blue Bluestreak as a &quot;foreign [[variant]]&quot; in its monthly price guide.<br /> :However, actual samples of a blue-sided Bluestreak in a sealed ''Transformers'' box have ''never'' appeared, and the [[Karl Hartman|collectors who have been at it since the very beginning]] and [[Jon Hartman|amassed ''insane'' numbers of rare Transformers]] have never seen one.<br /> : Oddly enough, numerous other Transformers toys from that era were depicted in both catalogues and packaging art with colors they were never released in —[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], for example— yet Bluestreak is the only one to be (mis)remembered in this manner, perhaps because his name is ''Blue''streak, so he had to have been blue, right?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some Generation 1 toy molds were in use as long ago as 1974.'''<br /> :Some ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]''-derived toys have the text &quot;©1974 TAKARA&quot; stamped on them, and as a result are occasionally sold on eBay with descriptions such as &quot;original 1974 [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]&quot;. However, the date 1974 refers to the introduction of the original ''[[Microman]]'' franchise due to the way Japanese IP law worked at the time; the first ''Microchange'' toys weren't even designed until the early 1980s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost.'''<br /> :Both the ''[[The Transformers Collection]]'' and ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] releases have different tape buttons and hinges than the ones found on the vintage Hasbro release. While the vintage Hasbro Soundwave had inset controls and an internal tape deck hinge, the Takara reissues have a large button block that serves as a pivot point for an external tape deck hinge. The supposed reason for this is the mold for the original versions of the buttons and door are lost or worn out, so a new single tape door was made to work with the Soundblaster mold.<br /> :In fact, the buttons and hinge used on the reissue Soundwaves were originally a [[retool]]ed running change [[variant]] of Takara's original 1985 release of Soundwave. The further Soundblaster retool was based on the later Japanese version of Soundwave, as were the reissues. Presumably, the original mold in its original condition ''is'' lost - but this happened ''long'' before Takara retooled Soundwave into Soundblaster.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Jetfire-Dutch.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Oddly enough, Optimus Prime can still be seen in the background.]]<br /> *'''Optimus Prime's toy was originally not released in Europe due to a trademark conflict.'''<br /> <br /> :When Hasbro subsidiary [[Milton Bradley]] launched the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|''Transformers'' line]] on the European continent in 1985, many prominent characters were missing, among them [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Optimus Prime]]. Bizarrely, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was branded as the Autobot leader, and depicted as such in [[In the Transformers|a pack-in mini-comic]]. Furthermore, Dutch publisher [[Junior Press]] initially renamed Optimus Prime into &quot;Jetfire&quot; for all his appearances in their translated versions of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|comic]]. Optimus Prime's toy was eventually released with the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'', and the Junior Press comics subsequently referred to him by his correct name.<br /> <br /> :The reason for Optimus Prime's initial omission from the MB line-up was claimed to be due to a [[trademark]] conflict with Swedish kitchen utensil manufacturer &quot;[http://www.optimusstoves.com/ Optimus]&quot;. Though initially accepted by the fandom, this claim doesn't hold up under scrutiny. A manufacturer of kitchen utensils ''usually'' does not operate in the &quot;toys&quot; field, thus making a trademark conflict unlikely to begin with. An editor's note in the Junior Press comic trying to explain the &quot;Optimus&quot;/&quot;Jetfire&quot; name situation claimed that the ''Transformers'' were originally ''two'' toy lines by different manufacturers in the United States, and MB had only released ''one'' of them in the Netherlands, while the &quot;[[copyright]]&quot; to the name &quot;Optimus Prime&quot; belonged to the other manufacturer. Which is of course horsehockey. Many years later, this editor's note (including the incorrect use of the term &quot;copyright&quot; rather than &quot;trademark&quot;) was cited by a Dutch fan who added his own speculation (without marking it as such), thus spawning the urban myth that was subsequently accepted by the fandom.&lt;ref name=&quot;optimusdutch&quot;&gt;[http://www.fredsworkshop.com/veuro2.html The origin (?) of the &quot;Optimus trademark conflict in Europe&quot; rumor?] at The Complete Transformers Variants Page&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation lies in that French company [[Joustra]] released their own version of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' line in many of the same markets as Milton Bradley's ''Transformers''. The theory suggests that because of Joustra's exclusive contract with [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], any toys from their ''Diaclone'' line-up were initially off-limits for Milton Bradley's ''Transformers'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofive&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-5/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 5&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt; A related theory suggests that Joustra's parent company, Ceji, got into financial trouble at the time, prompting them to sign a deal with Milton Bradley allowing them to use their existing (but still unsold) ''Diaclone'' stock released in ''Transformers'' packaging, which could explain why the second wave of MB-branded ''Transformers'' matches up almost perfectly with Joustra's ''Diaclone'' line-up.&lt;ref name=&quot;mijofour&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-4/ Mijo's &quot;MB Transformers: Part 4&quot; article] at 20th Century Toy Collector&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The Generation 1 Seacon Overbite was released under the name &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; in some European markets.'''<br /> [[File:JawbreakerComic.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|UK comic exclusive name variant!]]<br /> :In [[Enemy Action!|issue 152]] of the Marvel UK comics, the first appearance of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] is called &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;, a name repeated in his appearance in [[Salvage!|issue 160]] and in an &quot;A to Z&quot; profile in &quot;[[Transformers Annual 1989]]&quot;. In the early days of online fandom, American fans concluded that this must mean that the toy had been released under a different name in Europe—which is not ''entirely'' unfounded, as Transformers often got renamed in Canada and Italy, and many European-market toys from the post-US-cancellation line had multiple names, dependent on what country they were released in.<br /> :However, European fans claimed the toy was called &quot;Overbite&quot; when released in their respective countries (except for Italy, where [[GiG]] actually didn't release the Seacons ''at all''). Furthermore, the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] in [[City of Fear!|issue #164]] of the UK comic features a question by a confused (British) reader about the &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; name, since the UK-release toy was apparently indeed called &quot;Overbite&quot; (resulting in a made-up-on-the-spot explanation from the Marvel staff to reconcile both names). Adding to the confusion was the letters page in [[A Savage Circle|issue #327]] from late 1991, which stated that Jawbreaker was his British name and Overbite his American name. By this time the toy was no longer on sale and the character had long disappeared from the comic. Apparently whoever answered letters at this point was not well-informed.<br /> :So, why ''did'' the story identify the character as &quot;Jawbreaker&quot;? The answer was unknown until 2016, when a couple of early internal [[character model|model sheets]] were offered on [[eBay]]: Overbite's model sheet has his name crossed out, with &quot;Jawbreaker&quot; written below it.&lt;ref name=&quot;modelsheets&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/93711-more-unseen-tftm-designs-plus-some-early-colors-and-some-show-design/?p=3191211 Early model sheets] at The Allspark.&lt;/ref&gt; Since the same batch of model sheets also refers to the [[Sparkabot]]s as &quot;Sparkler Minibots&quot;, another naming anomaly for the Marvel UK comics (and some translations thereof), Marvel UK writer [[Simon Furman]] may have used these model sheets (or similar reference materials) with the non-final names on them. The Overbite toy's instructions still refer to his ''weapon'' as a &quot;Jawbreaker cannon&quot;, and his weapon mode for Piranacon is called a &quot;Jawbreaker weapon&quot; in the assembly instructions.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available only in the United Kingdom/Netherlands.'''<br /> :During the early days of the Transformers online fandom, most of the active European fans in English-language forums were based in the UK and Netherlands. So when information about non-US toys (or toy variants) was spread, there simply were no fans from Germany or France around to confirm that the toys in question had also been officially available in their respective countries. (Although to be fair, it's quite possible that some toys, such as the [[Milton Bradley]]-branded Generation 1 toys, were indeed released in bigger quantities in the Netherlands than in Germany or France.)&lt;ref name=&quot;mbpart6&quot;&gt;[http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-6/ &quot;MB Transformers: Part 6&quot;] at 20th Century Toy Collector.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :As a result, numerous toys like the red [[Tracks (G1)#Toys|Tracks]] and [[IGA]] Mexican-market Transformers (imported under dubious circumstances) got labeled as &quot;Netherlands-only&quot;, when they actually saw release in at least a half-dozen countries. Meanwhile, post-US-cancellation Transformers like the [[Action Master Elite]]s, &quot;[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]&quot; reissues, [[Turbomaster]]s, [[Obliterator]]s, etc, were (and sometimes still are) often referred to as &quot;UK exclusives&quot;, even though all of them were available in multiple countries, including Canada and Australia!<br /> :In reality, there are ''very'' few toys actually exclusive to a single European country. The first ''genuine'' &quot;UK exclusives&quot; were a set of multi-packs from the 2007 [[Transformers (film)|''Transformers'' live action movie]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toyline]], but the toys themselves were identical to the US releases. Meanwhile, other multi-packs or minor variants of toys from the 2007 movie toyline that were available in the UK but not the US were also available in other places, such as Japan, Hong Kong, Australia or other European countries again.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''A green variant of Trailbreaker was available in some European countries.'''<br /> :This belief seems to stem from the fact that [[IGA]]'s Mexican version of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (which, like most Mexican Transformers, was widely available on the European gray market circa 1989, as mentioned above) used the same head sculpt as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. But like the &quot;Blue&quot; Bluestreak, no samples of an actual green version of the Trailbreaker mold actually sold ''as'' &quot;Trailbreaker&quot; have been found.<br /> {{-}}<br /> ====''Generation 2''====<br /> *'''The ''Generation 2'' Autobot and Decepticon insignias were originally created by Hasbro UK, whose license for using the original faction insignias owned by Hasbro US had expired.'''<br /> :The first half is ''maybe'' true, the second half certainly isn't. Long story short: While the new Autobot and Decepticon faction [[insignia]]s were popularized by the ''Generation 2'' line, said line didn't start in Europe until 1994, a year later than in the US. Instead, the ''Transformers'' brand had continued in Europe even after its cancellation in the United States in 1990 (see the page for the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]] for more details), and new European-&quot;exclusive&quot; figures were still being released in 1993, many of which were later re-released in [[rebranding|rebranded]] ''Generation 2'' packaging in Europe in 1994, while some of them were also made available (including some color, name and faction changes) under the ''Generation 2'' line in the United States in 1993. It was those designed-for-Europe 1993 pre-''Generation 2'' figures that had first featured the new Autobot and Decepticon insignias on their packaging, and a popular myth claims that they had become a necessity for the European market due to Hasbro UK and Hasbro US being legally considered distinct entities under international law, and Hasbro UK alternatively didn't want to continue paying their parent company the fee for being allowed to use these symbols, or the license for using them had expired.&lt;ref name=&quot;euhist&quot;&gt;[https://tfarchive.com/fandom/features/thirtieth-anniversary/?s=countdown-04-european-history &quot;European History&quot;] at The Transformers Archive.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :The holes in this theory are legion: First of all, considering the trademark for the name &quot;The Transformers&quot; was registered with the UK Patent Office by Hasbro UK back in 1986, shouldn't the same also apply to the faction insignias? Therefore, how could Hasbro US, assuming it was indeed a distinct entity, enforce trademarks it hadn't registered in the UK? Why exactly would the UK Patent Office be enforcing the trademarks of a (supposedly) foreign company that didn't do business in the UK? In fact, why would ''anyone'' be enforcing trademark claims against Hasbro UK on behalf of Hasbro US? And why would this affect only the faction insignias? Wouldn't the names &quot;Transformers&quot;, &quot;Autobot&quot; and &quot;Decepticon&quot; be equally subject to those alleged licensing fees?<br /> <br /> :A much more likely explanation is that the faction insignias were changed for the same reason the &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo was changed to a new version (both in the US and Europe) in 1989, along with a major redesign of the toys' packaging, and why there had been another change to the packaging design and &quot;Transformers&quot; title logo for the European releases in 1992: To &quot;refresh&quot; the overall presentation of the brand, making everyhing look &quot;new&quot; and different for marketing reasons. Now whether the new insignias were originally created by Hasbro US for the ''Generation 2'' line and were simply applied to the European 1993 toys first for the sake of consistency, or whether they had indeed been created by Hasbro UK and Hasbro US just liked them so much they decided to adopt them for the ''Generation 2'' line is up for debate.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====''Alternators''====<br /> *'''A yellow version of ''Alternators'' Tracks was released to North American stores (but then recalled by Hasbro).'''<br /> <br /> [[File:YellowTracks.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|Only in Japan, baby.]]<br /> :When [[Hasbro]] (and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) originally announced the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] in 2004, the toy's [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode's]] primary color was yellow. This caused the ire of a significant portion of the fandom, which insisted that the toy had to be ''blue'', like its [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] predecessor.<br /> :Hasbro eventually confirmed at [[OTFCC 2004]] that the initial idea had been to release the toy in yellow first, and then later as a running change [[variant]] in blue, like Takara would ultimately do. However, Hasbro had encountered problems at the test shot stage, where it became evident that some of the toy's innards were shining through the yellow plastic. As a result, plans for a release of the yellow version were scrapped, and it was decided to release the blue version from the get-go.<br /> :Rumors started circulating that some stores (usually [[Walmart]]) had indeed received a shipment of the toy, but were then asked by Hasbro to send back the entire batch. Naturally, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up these claims. And while toys may occasionally be recalled [[for safety reasons]], it's highly doubtful that &quot;aesthetics&quot; would be enough of a reason to warrant an expensive product recall.<br /> :The only &quot;packaged&quot; versions of a yellow ''Alternators'' Tracks we ever got to see were internet pranks of the &quot;yellow ''Binaltech'' Tracks in photoshopped Hasbro box&quot; variety. Which, of course, didn't help matters at all.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:WindchargerOverdrive.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Castrated at the request of Honda.]]<br /> *'''Hasbro omitted ''Alternators'' Windcharger's gun barrel for safety reasons.'''<br /> <br /> : When the first stolen [[Prototype|test shots]] of ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Windcharger (G1)#Alternators|Windcharger]] surfaced in 2004, the toy sported an extraordinarily long gun barrel (which doubled as the [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]'s drive shaft). The toy was ultimately released without the barrel, which was not shown or mentioned anywhere on the packaging or in the instructions. Indeed, Windcharger's weapon accessory was officially identified as a &quot;shield&quot; on the back of the packaging (in addition to the actual, ragtop roof shield). [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], on the other hand, later released their own ''Binaltech'' version of the toy (named [[Overdrive]]) with the full barrel, prominently shown in the official promotional photos.<br /> <br /> :The initial fan theory upon seeing the barrel-less toy was that Hasbro had gutted it for safety reasons, under the notion that the long barrel might pose a choking hazard. Even though this was refuted by actual experts on toy safety standards, the rumor still persisted. An official response from Hasbro's customer service department to an e-mail inquiry (published on a fan site's message board) confirmed that the reason for the barrel's omission was &quot;so the accessory would not look like a weapon&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Windcharger gun barrel&quot;&gt;&quot;http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=13088 Response from Hasbro's customer service department regarding the lack of Alternators Windcharger's gun barrel.&lt;/ref&gt; Eventually, Hasbro (in the presence of Takara representatives) would confirm the full story at [[BotCon 2005]]: It had indeed been Honda, specifically their North American branch, that had asked to remove the gun barrel and all references to &quot;weapons&quot; from the toy, its packaging and included paperwork. Honda's Japanese department, on the other hand, had no such concerns, which is why Takara were able to release the ''Binaltech'' version with the barrel intact.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Masterpiece''====<br /> *'''''Masterpiece'' Convoy 1.0 has more diecast parts than 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime/''Masterpiece'' Convoy is made almost entirely out of diecast/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime is made entirely out of plastic.'''<br /> :This misconception was started by now defunct Hong Kong-based online retailer Action-HQ&lt;ref name=&quot;plasticahq&quot;&gt;[http://tformers.com/transformers-20th-anniversary-optimus-prime-plastic/2150/news.html &quot;20th Anniversary Optimus Prime Plastic?&quot;], November 2003.&lt;/ref&gt; and ''might'' have been extrapolated from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' toys, which are made entirely out of plastic (except for the rubber tires) for their Hasbro releases, whereas their Japanese ''Binaltech'' counterparts feature a few parts made out of [[die-cast|die-cast metal]].<br /> :In fact, however, the amount of die-cast metal parts versus injection-[[mold]]ed plastic parts is the same between 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and his Japanese ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Convoy counterpart. The only differences between the two toys (not counting the packaging) are the shortened smokestacks for Hasbro's 20th Prime and the addition of painted battle damage that is missing from the Takara version.<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Collection''====<br /> [[File:G1 Vol.1 Issue2 1.jpg|thumb|upright=0.55|A solicitation of then upcoming Takara reissues? Not really.]]<br /> *'''Takara's ''Transformers Collection'' had something to do with Dreamwave.'''<br /> :In 2002, Takara launched their series of [[Generation 1 reissues]] named ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'', also commonly referred to as &quot;bookbox reissues&quot; or even &quot;Dreamwave reissues&quot; among fans. The reason for that is simple: The [[package art]], especially for early releases such as [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Meister]] or [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]], was directly taken from the covers of and promotional posters for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave's]] first ''[[Prime Directive|Generation One]]'' mini-series drawn by [[Pat Lee]]. A common misconception among fans at that time was that Takara was coordinating their reissues with Dreamwave. Some even tried to predict upcoming reissues based on the existing Dreamwave covers. Yet [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys|Sunstreaker]] never materialized.<br /> <br /> :In fact, probably the main reason why Takara recycled Pat's Dreamwave artwork of those characters for the [[packaging]] of their reissues was its coincidental availability: The artwork had already been created and paid for, so why commission new art when they could just use what already exists? Furthermore, only about half of the TFC reissues actually sported &quot;Dreamwave&quot; package art, whereas the rest ''did'' use newly-commissioned art drawn by Japanese artist [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], who has never in his life worked for Dreamwave and had been drawing in this style long before Pat Lee rose to his brief &quot;superstar artist&quot; fame.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Generations''====<br /> *'''The &quot;Generation 1&quot; characters featured in ''[[Studio Series]]'' are branded under the &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; subline.'''<br /> :This myth originates from leaked Walmart listings appending &quot;86&quot; to the end of the toyline's name, which led to the misunderstanding that the ''The Transformers: The Movie'' characters sold in ''Studio Series'' are branded differently from the rest of the line (an unaware editor on {{SITENAME_SHORT}} may have helped propagate this misconception).<br /> <br /> :Aside from having the &quot;86&quot; prefix on their ID numbers, the ''Studio Series'' G1 characters are branded exactly the same as the live-action film characters sold alongside them. However, the term &quot;''Studio Series'' 86&quot; has stuck around as [[fandom]] terminology for those wanting to distinguish between the two continuities sold within the same toyline.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''The Transformers cartoon''====<br /> *'''The original ''The Transformers'' series was redubbed anime which originated in Japan, just like ''Battle of the Planets'', ''Voltron'', ''Robotech'' and other such shows screened in the '80s.'''<br /> : Although most moderate-to-hardcore fans are well aware that this is a fallacy, there are those more casual fans (or those who have not rewatched the original ''Transformers'' cartoon since childhood) who are under the misconception that [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'']] was an anime.<br /> : Although the original toyline and thus the characters' basic visual designs were taken from Japanese-originated products, the original characters, names, factions and entire story premise of the whole ''Transformers'' franchise were developed in the United States by [[Hasbro]], [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and eventually [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]]. Although the animation was farmed out to [[Toei|Japanese]] (and later also [[AKOM|Korean]]) [[TMS Entertainment|studios]], the writing and original voice recording of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|all four seasons of the original series]] plus ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'' was entirely done in America.<br /> : This misconception probably stems from distant childhood memories of the cartoon, the fact that shows like the aforementioned ''Robotech'' were redubbed anime and the ''Transformers''' obvious Japanese influences. This ''may'' also be due to passing exposure to [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]] and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] shows which, viewed as an adult, are ''very'' obviously redubbed anime.<br /> : This is in part related to the misconception that '''all''' ''Transformers'' toys are ''solely'' designed, developed and manufactured by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], and all [[Hasbro]] ever does is to put them in new packaging and distribute them in the Western market (see above). Because this is true for other Japanese robot toylines, and therefore it must also apply to ''Transformers''.<br /> : However, there's actually a ''little'' bit of truth to this misconception; since the G1 cartoon is an animated series made by Japanese studios, one could feasibly call it an anime; as &quot;anime&quot; is only a word to describe any form of animation in Japan, much like the word &quot;cartoon&quot; is here in the West, and ''not'' a term for a specific genre.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Jazz was written out of the series due to the death of his voice actor.'''<br /> : [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] conspicuously survives the events of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', yet went on to make no speaking appearances in the third season of the cartoon. As his voice actor, [[Scatman Crothers]], passed away of lung cancer in 1986, it is common for fans to assume that the latter caused the former. This isn't hurt by the fact that fellow Autobot and film survivor [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] also vanished due to issues involving [[Casey Kasem|his own voice actor]], nor by the fact that one of Jazz's only appearances involved him seemingly being referred to as &quot;[[Munka Spanka]].&quot; <br /> : However, the dates simply don't match up: Crothers's death happened on November 22, long after the third season had begun airing. In fact, by that point, the only remaining episodes were the two parts of &quot;[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|The Return of Optimus Prime]]&quot;, both of which aired months after the rest of the season. Add in the fact that any dialogue for the episodes would have been recorded months in advance, and the idea that Crothers dying affected the writing process becomes borderline impossible. The more likely answer is that Jazz stopped appearing, like much of the Season 1 and 2 cast, because his toy was no longer on shelves.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Headmasters'' was going to be dubbed into English and shown in America.'''<br /> : In America, &quot;Season 4&quot; consisted of &quot;The Rebirth&quot;, a 3-episode mini-series. In Japan, &quot;The Rebirth&quot; was ignored, and a full-fledged series titled ''The Headmasters'' continued the story instead. Rumors once swirled in the fandom of an American-led dub of ''The Headmasters'' series; the dub was largely finished, goes the story, till the materials were lost in a warehouse fire.<br /> : Given the meandering pace of the series (common for Japanese shows but anathema to American sensibilities), the presence of numerous characters who had no toy equivalent on US shelves, the incompatibility with the &quot;[[Nebulan]]&quot; head characters, the number of Japanese cultural references, and the very existence of &quot;[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Rebirth]]&quot;, this rumor seems unlikely on the surface.<br /> : More to the point, no official confirmation or other evidence has ever surfaced to back it up. In all likelihood the rumor was probably a {{w|Chinese whispers|Chinese Whisper}} from the fact that the laughably-bad English language [[Omni Productions]] dub was screened on UK satellite TV during the 1990s.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Transformers were meant as a &quot;genderless&quot; race. Arcee and the other female Transformers were added to the brand because feminists complained about the Transformers all being male.'''<br /> : When [[Bob Budiansky]] was assigned to work out the character details for the toys, he initially intended some of them to represent female characters, like [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]. However, he was not given permission by [[Hasbro]] to include females because the company feared it would have a negative impact on the sales of those toys.&lt;ref&gt;[http://rustingcarcass.yuku.com/topic/954 Rusting Carcass interview]&lt;/ref&gt; Budiansky complied, and in later years, would even pen [[Recipe for Disaster!|a story]] for the Marvel comic in which the Transformer race was stated to have no concept of gender.<br /> <br /> :[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The cartoon]] was a different story. Since television requires a bigger investment than comics, but also offers the potential for a much better payoff, it is of interest for a TV network to broadcast material that reaches the highest possible demographic. To this end, very early in its development, writer [[Jeffrey Scott]] penned a [[production bible]] which included original female Transformer characters as part of an effort to sell the series to TV Network CBS. When it was decided to produce the series for syndication rather than for a network, new story editors [[Bryce Malek]] and [[Dick Robbins]] dropped this idea, and the series went on to star an exclusively-male cast of robots. However, in late 1984, while working on the early story development for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', writer [[Ron Friedman]] argued for the inclusion of a female Autobot in the story, on the basis that he &quot;had a daughter who love[d] this stuff.&quot; Friedman won his argument, Arcee was added to the movie, and in 1985, female Autobots were incorporated into the series in advance of the film's release, with the introduction of [[Elita One]] and her [[Female Autobots]] in the episode &quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]].&quot;<br /> :In other Transformers cartoons, [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]] and the English dub gender flip of [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] have also been added to their respective series because of network demands, whereas [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]], [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] were a request from the writers to Hasbro.<br /> : Despite persistent stories, there is no documented instance of feminists demanding the inclusion of female Transformers (and likely, they've got something better to do than complain about another generic boys show like there are hundreds of). There is, however, a comic story called &quot;[[Prime's Rib!]]&quot; which presents Arcee's introduction to the Autobot ranks as an attempt by Optimus Prime to appease [[Feminist mob|human feminists]]. While the story is obviously satire, through hearsay it has become believed by some that it is what actually happened.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''The Transformers: The Movie''====<br /> <br /> *'''Some portions of Unicron's dialogue were recorded by an actor other than Orson Welles.'''<br /> <br /> : A common rumor in the Western fandom claimed that Unicron's final lines (&quot;Destiny... you cannot destroy my.. destiny!&quot;) were recorded by [[Leonard Nimoy]], based on claims that those lines sounded &quot;different&quot; from the rest of [[Orson Welles]]' lines.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/trivia IMDB.com reference to the Leonard Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt; Compounding the rumor is the fact that Welles died shortly after recording his ''TF:TM'' lines&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.amazon.com/This-Orson-Welles/dp/030680834X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6174389-3113623?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1182349938&amp;sr=8-1 According to one biography, Welles recorded his ''TF:TM'' lines on October 5, 1985 and died five days later.]&lt;/ref&gt; (and indeed, one version of the rumor has Welles actually dying ''before'' completing his lines). Despite being debunked repeatedly (including by [[Susan Blu]] and [[Wally Burr]], both of whom should know), this one still pops up from time to time.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/387399-leonard-nimoy-officially-announced-voice-sentinel-prime-13.html#post5858748 Nimoy-as-Unicron rumor repeated by TFW2005 user &quot;RedAlert Rescue&quot;.]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2007/07/when_orson_welles_was_a_transformer.single.html Slate.com discusses the Unicron rumor.]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie''/Scatman Crothers coined the term &quot;ginormous&quot;, which has since been added to several dictionaries.'''<br /> <br /> : In ''The Transformers: The Movie'', [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], voiced by [[Scatman Crothers]], described [[Unicron]] as &quot;a ginormous, weird-looking planet&quot;. The word &quot;ginormous&quot;, a portmanteau of &quot;gigantic&quot; and &quot;enormous&quot;, was officially added by the Merriam-Webster Online dictionary in 2007.&lt;ref name=&quot;webster&quot;&gt;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/newwords07.htm Merriam-Webster adding the word &quot;ginormous]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : Some fans believe that Crothers had coined the term, which is incorrect for several reasons. Even putting aside the notion that under this theory, Crothers is assumed to have ad-libbed the line (rather than simply reading it from [[Ron Friedman]]'s script), the term has actually been around for much longer, being listed in the Oxford English Dictionary as a &quot;British informal&quot; word that has existed since at least the 1940s, and was originally military slang.&lt;ref name=&quot;oxford&quot;&gt;[http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ginormous Oxford dictionary entry for &quot;ginormous&quot;]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was never released in Japan.'''<br /> <br /> : It is true that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was not released in Japan at the same time it was released in [[Hasbro]]'s markets, with Japanese fans instead getting the ''[[Scramble City: Mobilization]]'' OVA prior to the release of the third season of the show (second for Japan). But ''The Movie'' ultimately made it to Japanese theaters in August 1989. The various discrepancies between it and subsequent Japan-only Generation 1 fiction (such as who [[Prowl (G1)#The Headmasters cartoon|didn't]] [[Wheeljack (G1)#Victory cartoon|survive]] the movie) are largely a matter of the Japanese animators and writers being unaware of the precise details of the film. This also led to a similar rumor that ''Scramble City'' was an out-and-out ''replacement'' for the film, similar to how ''The Headmasters'' replaced &quot;The Rebirth.&quot; Actually viewing the OVA reveals that it has nothing to do with the events of ''The Movie'', other than that both feature [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and take place between the second and third seasons; at no point does it significantly contradict the film, and pretty much the only third-season change the film explains is where [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] came from. There were indeed attempts to summarize what had happened in the movie, including a narration added to &quot;Five Faces of Darkness&quot; and scans in ''Terebi Magazine'', but ''Scramble City'' served much more as an advertisement for its subline than a major turning point of the continuity.&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216153#post216153&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=216478#post216478&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?threadid=30800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in Japan under the title &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.'''<br /> <br /> : &quot;[[The Transformers: The Movie - Apocalypse: Be Eternal, Matrix|Matrix Forever]]&quot; is actually the shortened and slightly mistranslated title of a 20-minute video created to promote the Japanese release of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', but some Western fans have been confused into thinking that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' itself was renamed &quot;Matrix Forever&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a5d29844863d2c29&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;SpaceMafia&quot;&gt;'''Black Shadow and Blue Bacchus are both members of a &quot;Space Mafia&quot;.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :[[Black Shadow (G1)|Black Shadow]] of ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'' has his function listed as &quot;Space Gangster&quot;. An early fan translation of his on-package [[bio]] misinterpreted the Japanese word for &quot;gangster&quot; to mean &quot;Mafia&quot;, hence the belief that a &quot;Space Mafia&quot; exists in the Japanese Generation 1 universe. This was naturally extended to his partner, [[Blue Bacchus]], whose function is &quot;Space Gunman.&quot;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MetrotitanZombie&quot;&gt;'''Metrotitan is a zombie version of Metroplex.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> : [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was a Destron [[redeco]] of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] from the ''[[Transformers: Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'' portion of Japanese Generation 1 continuity. For unclear reasons, Western fans believe that Metrotitan was a &quot;zombified&quot; version of Metroplex, and a stranger variation on this rumor holds that Metrotitan was somehow &quot;regrown&quot; from one of Metroplex's legs.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot; /&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====European Generation 1 fiction====<br /> *'''Starscream and Shrapnel are female characters in the French dub of Generation 1.'''<br /> : This rumor is only partly true. The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' cartoon]] used three different dub teams for the French version: one for the TV show's dub broadcast in Quebec, one for the TV show's dub broadcast in France and one for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] used in both countries. Neither of the TV show's dubs depict [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] as a female as he uses a distinctively male voice;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM YouTube: Doublage de France: Combaticons et Égo]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMXCeXw5Vdo Doublage Québécois: Égo et Dr. Croc-en-ville]&lt;/ref&gt; however, the movie's dubbing team used a female voice for Starscream, and at one point [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] calls Starscream &quot;une imbécile&quot; (articles in French are gender-specific), clearly cementing Starscream's movie status as a female.&lt;ref&gt;http://web.archive.org/web/20080612225831/http://www.bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes&lt;/ref&gt; All the same is also true for [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who is even referred to as &quot;Mademoiselle Shrapnel&quot; by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] in the movie.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The German version of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was edited and didn't depict Starscream's death scene.'''<br /> : German TV didn't air a dubbed version of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] until 1989. ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' was aired for the first time on German TV in 1994, with only one repeat. For unknown reasons, a rumor was circulating for several years claiming that [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream's]] death was considered too &quot;violent&quot; for German TV standards for children's programs and had therefore been edited out.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&amp;fid=7489&amp;vid=38680 German movie database ''still'' listing the rumor about Starscream's &quot;edited death&quot; in TF:TM]&lt;/ref&gt; However, recordings of the TV airing still exist, which don't feature any obvious edits other than [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] infamous &quot;swear&quot; line. Furthermore, a German DVD edition of the movie released in 2004 that features an entirely different dub also depicts Starscream's death in all its glory.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.'''<br /> :The comic story &quot;[[Desert Island Risks!]]&quot; from issue 264 of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|G1 comic]] reveals that the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] have somehow lost their ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As a result, they try to build another Devastator as a new robot.<br /> <br /> :Some fans mistakenly believe that this is somehow related to a re-release of the Constructicons (now in yellow) that were available in [[The Transformers (European toyline)|Europe]] after the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' toyline had ended in the USA. Those Constructicons omitted the extra parts necessary to form Devastator; and furthermore, [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] and [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (neither of them officially named in this version; all six toys came on multi-purpose cardbacks simply named &quot;Constructicon&quot;) were [[retool]]ed to omit the tabs that were necessary for combining them (and [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]) when forming Devastator. Since the toys couldn't combine into Devastator anymore, fans believe that the [[Earthforce]] comic story was intended to serve as an &quot;explanation&quot; for this.<br /> <br /> :The problem with this theory, however, is that the yellow &quot;Euro&quot; Constructicon toys were released in 1992; the comic story, however, had already come out in early 1990. If anything, &quot;Desert Island Risks!&quot; was based on the [[Action Master]] version of Devastator, which no longer consisted of six individual Constructicons. (Also, the individual Constructicons don't even appear in the story.)<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Early internet misconceptions===<br /> <br /> *'''Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.'''<br /> [[File:G1 OptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1984—the original.]]<br /> [[File:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|1988—the Powermaster version.]]<br /> <br /> :This one claims that the [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy, originally released in 1988, is the ''original'', first Optimus Prime toy ever released, rather than the ''earlier'', non-Powermaster toy, which is an entirely different mold and was originally available in 1984. This phenomenon is particularly common in [[eBay]] auctions, where Powermaster Optimus Prime toys are frequently advertised as &quot;ORIGINAL Optimus Prime&quot;.<br /> :The reasons for this misconception are obvious: Numerous people arrived late to the party—that is, became fans of the original ''Transformers'' line after the ''real'' original Optimus Prime toy had vanished off the shelves in 1986 (the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] was still shown in reruns on TV). Any of them looking for a toy of the iconic [[Autobot]] leader would only find the Powermaster toy on store shelves starting in 1988. Fast-forward to 20 years later, and people who weren't really paying a lot of attention to the brand for the past few years, now looking to sell off their childhood toys, would naturally conclude that the toy they got as a kid was the ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.<br /> :The phenomenon is even more widespread in countries such as Germany, where the cartoon wasn't officially shown on TV until 1989(!). By that point, the ''original'' toy, which had originally been released by [[Milton Bradley]] in the European market in 1985, was long gone off the shelves. Thus, the only Optimus Prime toy available to kids who had only just become fans because of the cartoon was the Powermaster version. Admittedly, [[parallel import|gray import]]s of the Mexican version of the ''original'' toy by [[IGA]] were also available in European stores around this time, and Hasbro themselves would release the original toy again two years later as part of their European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line of reissues. However, the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was still a lot more widespread.<br /> <br /> *'''20th Anniversary Optimus Prime was the Optimus Prime toy available in the 1980s/Alternators are the same toys that were available in the 1980s.'''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-1-Convoy.jpg|125px|thumb|Sadly, this didn't exist until 2003.]]<br /> :This misconception usually comes from people who, upon seeing the 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy (which was originally released in 2003/2004), honest-to-god swear it's the toy they had when they were a kid. Similarly, there are also people who believe that the toys from the ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' line are the same toys they had as kids, when they're most likely confusing them with the original Autobot Cars, which are about half the size.<br /> :The reasons for this aren't too hard to guess: People were a lot smaller when they were kids, so obviously the original Transformers toys seemed a lot larger to them. Since these fans didn't repeatedly hold or play with their Transformers while growing up, they weren't constantly adjusting to the toys' size in relation to their own. This resulted in blurred memories of outright ''gargantuan'' Transformers toys available in the 1980s. (One might wonder how tall those people would remember [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] being.)<br /> :When confronted with the original toys—now relatively small because the fans have grown up—these people often reject them, insisting the &quot;original&quot; toys were ''larger'' (occasionally even accusing the ''real'' original toys of being downsized [[knockoff]]s). Showing them the Alternators or 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, on the other hand, will bring back warm (albeit incorrect) memories.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''&quot;Bumblejumper&quot; is just a yellow Cliffjumper'''<br /> [[File:G1-toy Bumper.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, who later would be known as &quot;Bumper&quot;.]]<br /> :In 1984, Hasbro released three different similar-form toys as part of the [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] assortment: [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys|Cliffjumper]], and a [[Bumper (G1)|third unnamed toy]] that was not advertised in any capacity, sold ''only'' on Cliffjumper cards (at least, no samples on a Bumblebee card have ever surfaced). This third mold was a &quot;leftover&quot; from the ''[[Micro Change]]'' line, based on a Mazda Familia 1500XG sedan, and was very quickly phased out (resulting in him becoming the first of the &quot;holy grail&quot; super-costly Transformers on the secondary market). The exact nature of how and why this toy got released is still a mystery. Fans took to calling this third mystery mold portmanteau names such as &quot;Bumblejumper&quot;, &quot;Cliffbee&quot;, and &quot;Bumper&quot;; that last one eventually becoming his official name when he appeared in the ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|''Generation One'' Volume 1]] comic series by [[Dreamwave Productions]].<br /> :Adding to the confusion is that both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were available in two color schemes: their fiction-supported colors (Bee in yellow, Cliff in red) and in reversed colors (Bee in red, Cliff in yellow) up through 1985. And since Cliffjumper and Bumper are both similarly boxy in vehicle form, and Bumper was only available in yellow, and only on Cliffjumper cards for a very short time, and was not in any catalogs and had no name and didn't appear in any cartoons or comics....<br /> :Further adding to the mistaken memory pile is [[Hubcap (G1)#toys|Hubcap]], a yellow [[retool]] of Cliffjumper released in 1986. Fun!<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> *'''A show-accurate Skyfire toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Jetfire-SkyfireModels.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Patience. You just have to wait 22 years.]]<br /> :Due to some legal entanglements, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was renamed &quot;Skyfire&quot; for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]], with a [[character model]] that bore only a vague resemblance to the toy. Some confused viewers seem to have come away assuming that there had to be a [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] Generation 1 toy by the name of Skyfire. (The ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' Jetfire toy is actually designed as a mix between the original toy and the cartoon character model, and many later toys have aspects of the cartoon model too.)<br /> <br /> :{{-}}<br /> *'''A Unicron toy was available during Generation 1.'''<br /> [[File:Unicron Proto.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seriously, aren't you glad your poor parents didn't have to waste like a hundred bucks on this back in '86?]]<br /> :No toys of [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]] were available (or even produced beyond [[prototype]]) until 2003. In fact, the mere ''existence'' of those prototypes wasn't actually officially confirmed until many years later. The first [[Unicron/toys|official Unicron toy]] to be released came out as part of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line in 2003 and was a brand new mold, not based on an old, unused prototype.<br /> :The fictional existence of a ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' Unicron toy is likely based on schoolground one-upmanship: if one kid had a larger toy such as [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], a rival kid would claim to have a Unicron toy in order to appear cooler, but would most likely retire to his bed a sobbing mess, knowing in his heart that one day God would punish him for being a HUGE FIBBER.<br /> :What could also have attributed to this misconception was the voice actor for Unicron himself, Orson Welles. He died before the movie's release and the part in the 1986 movie was his last before his death in 1985. He loathed the part and could not even remember his character's name; he was quoted as saying, &quot;I play a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys,&quot; mistakenly assuming there was a toy for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In 2005, a crazy old man claimed he had created the original ''Transformers'' toys.'''<br /> :In 2005, the ''Transformers'' [[fandom]] learned, by way of a newspaper article posted by an internet fan site, of the existence of [[Henry Orenstein]], a former toymaker. Although the main focus of the article was Orenstein's then-current achievements in the field of poker, it also implied that Orenstein had &quot;created&quot; the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]]'' toys, and even featured a photo that depicted a somewhat confused-looking Orenstein holding [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]]. Many fans subsequently assumed that this was a deluded old man who believed he had created the concept of ''Transformers'' toys, even though the fandom knew full well by this point that the original toys were originally created in Japan. His status as the &quot;creator&quot; of the ''Transformers'' toy line was subsequently repeated in several other articles about the man, possibly directly based on its mention in the original 2005 article.<br /> :The ''fact'' is that Orenstein had worked for [[Hasbro]] during the 1980s, and was the person who had convinced [[George Dunsay]], then Hasbro's Vice President of R&amp;D, to acquire the rights to a (more or less) innovative type of Japanese toys, which would eventually become known as the original ''Transformers'' toys. Aside from that and the original patent for the [[rubsign]]s, which he shares with Dunsay, Orenstein has made no known contribution to the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]]. Obviously, the writer of said newspaper article had only marginal knowledge of the history of the ''Transformers'' brand, was told what was most likely nothing more than an anecdote by Orenstein (his biography is full of fascinating episodes, by the way), and subsequently inflated it massively with hyperbole, possibly in an attempt to gain more attention to his article due to the popularity of the brand, even before the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]]. The only question is, where did the photographer get the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime toy from?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''&quot;Generation 2&quot; means &quot;after ''The Transformers: The Movie''.&quot;'''<br /> :This common but explicitly false idea probably stems from the many casual fans who grew up with the original ''Transformers'' line but stopped paying much attention around 1986, when the animated ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' debuted and the ''Transformers'' craze began to die down. Many such fans regained some interest in ''Transformers'' many years later, particularly with hype surrounding the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]]. Seeing the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; batted around in fandom, it might seem natural to assume it refers to the big changeover that happened with the animated film. It certainly didn't help that, early in the life of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]], [[Pat Lee]] shared in this misconception, leading other new arrivals to the fandom to ape his use of the term.<br /> :While the original animated movie certainly marked a change from one &quot;generation&quot; of toys to another, along with some new design trends, the phrase &quot;Generation 2&quot; refers to [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|a very specific franchise]], marketed from 1992 to 1995—years after the animated film had come and gone. Its relative obscurity probably contributes to the mis-attribution of the term, as ''Generation 2'' marks a low point in popularity for ''Transformers'' as a whole.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Traumatizing enough as it is, frankly.]]<br /> *'''There exists an &quot;uncut version&quot; of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' containing all sorts of non-kid-friendly content.'''<br /> <br /> : These stories stem mainly from the fact that many home-video releases of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' omit two relatively minor instances of characters using profanity, which during the 1990s resulted in some [[alt.toys.transformers]] posters advertising &quot;uncut&quot; VHS copies of the movie for sale, thus either intentionally or unintentionally creating the myth of a really foul-mouthed and ultra-violent alternate version of ''The Transformers: The Movie''. At least one poster claimed to have uncut reels of the original film showing a number of violent scenes,&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/07464cbfbb5d0cc9/8aee0b30765b2b4a?hl=en#8aee0b30765b2b4a THE UNCUT JAPANESE TRANSFORMERS MOVIE]&lt;/ref&gt; but, unsurprisingly, was unwilling to provide any form of proof.&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/799fec40c1aa285e/6af42e4099affa04?hl=en# Doth the Canadian protesteth too much?]&lt;/ref&gt; So have ended all claims of uncut footage from the film.<br /> <br /> :A much stranger rumor, whose origins are unclear, claims that the original theatrical cut of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' depicted [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] crumbling into dust after dying, and that that scene was cut by the distributor in mid-release because children were traumatized by the imagery. Interestingly, the &quot;[[Death of Optimus Prime]]&quot; track on the original soundtrack album does contain ten extra seconds of music. At the end, just before the song's final low-octave percussion sequence, there is a very distinct series of notes that appears nowhere else in the song and is not in the onscreen version. However, no other evidence of this &quot;lost&quot; animation sequence exists among the many storyboards, preliminary animations, interviews, varying formats, etc., that have come to light. The myth could be related to the death of Starscream, a few scenes later, where Starscream '''does''' indeed crumble to dust after being shot by Galvatron; time and distance could lead fans to confuse the two scenes.<br /> <br /> :These claims should not be confused with the extra storyboarded scenes and early script revisions which have come to light over the years, which do in fact contain a lot more violence. But no evidence exists that any of these sequences, even those that made it to storyboard, were ever animated. Especially given the expense of producing full animation.<br /> <br /> ::''See also: [[The Transformers: The Movie#Edits]].''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;MegGalvJapan&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, Megatron and Galvatron are two separate characters.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :There are a few instances of Japanese fiction (and advertising) that would seem to support this notion, all of which can be attributed to a lack of communication between [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] prior to the release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. All of them were ultimately ignored by the &quot;primary&quot; fiction, namely the (dubbed) third season of the cartoon (named ''Transformers: 2010'' in Japan) and the accompanying manga, which followed the Western story concept of Galvatron being a reformatted [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]].<br /> :The [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 2|second issue]] of ''[[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]]'' [[manga]] depicts [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] commanding [[Megatron Corps|a legion of automatons]] created in [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s image, which some non-Japanese-speaking fans misinterpreted as depicting Galvatron and Megatron co-existing. This even extended into ''[[The Battlestars]]'', where the appearance of Super Megatron solidified the idea to those fans; after all, surely if he were upgraded from Galvatron, he would be named Super Galvatron, right? One particularly sturdy rumor claimed that he was trying to hunt Galvatron down (possibly conflating him with [[Gilthor]]).&lt;ref&gt;http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=179&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *&lt;span id=&quot;PlanetDestron&quot;&gt;'''In Japanese continuity, the Destrons (Decepticons) were invaders from a planet called Destron.'''&lt;/span&gt;<br /> :The [[Autobot]]s were renamed &quot;Cybertrons&quot; in the Japanese translation, resulting in a misconception that the Destrons ([[Decepticon]]s) must hail from somewhere other than the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, the Japanese translation also used slightly different spellings for the faction, &quot;Cybertron&quot; (literally: サイバトロン, &quot;Sa-i-ba-to-ro-n&quot;), and the planet, (literally: セイバートロン, &quot;Se-i-baa-to-ro-n&quot;), commonly interpreted as &quot;Seibertron&quot; by Western fans, in order to avoid confusion, even though both words originally started out based on the English name &quot;Cybertron&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tfa522&quot;&gt;[http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 The Transformers Archive essay about various urban legends surrounding the Transformers franchise]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :This rumor presumably originates from an article a Thomas Wheeler had written for ''Attic's Collectible Toys and Values Monthly'' during the hiatus between the [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]] toylines. According to that article, Hasbro chose not to follow this element of the story because of the similarity between the term &quot;Destron&quot; and ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'''s &quot;[[Destro]]&quot; character. Of course, seeing as the story originated in America to begin with and was only dubbed into Japanese later on, this doesn't make a lot of sense. In later years, Wheeler wrote toy reviews for Master Collector's website, which occasionally also display a certain lack of knowledge about various toys and the ''Transformers'' brand's overall history, so it doesn't seem entirely out of place for him.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Beast Era Misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Beast Wars didn't originally have the Transformers branding.'''<br /> :While the early design of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy packaging had the ''Transformers'' brand name in a smaller typeface than the main ''Beast Wars'' logo, the toy range was ''always'' officially titled ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' in the United States from day one. Later on, with the release of the [[Transmetal]]s and [[Fuzor]]s subranges, the ''Transformers'' name was increased in size and prominence on the packaging, eventually reversing the order of the two parts of the title to ''Transformers: Beast Wars''. <br /> <br /> :In Europe, things were a little less cut-and-dry: Various types of [[multilingual packaging]] that saw use in different markets further reduced the prominence (and in some cases, also the visibility) of the ''Transformers'' branding, initially relegating it to an entirely different section of the packaging far away from the ''Beast Wars'' title. Lastly, when British commercial broadcaster ITV aired the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' television series]] on their morning show (GMTV), the ''Transformers'' name was edited out of the title sequence entirely.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> ====''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''The [[Vok]] are servants of [[The One]].'''<br /> :This idea was largely born out of coincidence, misunderstanding, and very poor timing. In the first season of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]], one of the more important parts of its story was the mystery surrounding an alien race called the Vok. As admitted by series creators [[Bob Forward]] and [[Larry DiTillio]], the first season was largely made up as it went along; so too was the story of the Vok. There was no truly definite plan for what these alien were, beyond their being enigmatic and otherworldly. Behind the scenes, there were some ideas bounced between Forward and DiTillio, but which were largely contradictory and not at all concrete. Ultimately, the true nature of the Vok was left unexplored in the cartoon, leaving it to ancillary media to formulate their own interpretations.<br /> :For [[BotCon 2001]], Bob Forward was given the chance to flesh out the Vok's backstory in the form of a short comic titled &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 1|Primeval Dawn]]&quot;, in which he characterized them as an evolved and enlightened form of the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], a malevolent force from the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' series from [[Marvel Comics]]. (Note that this was ''not'' Forward's background idea for the Vok, but rather DiTillio's). In this comic, the Vok declared themselves to be &quot;Guardians of the One. Defenders of the Ultimate -- Of that which must be.&quot; At the time of release, this appeared to have merely been a direct callback to a line the Vok had spoken in the cartoon episode &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 1]]&quot;—&quot;That which does not become part of the One shall become void.&quot; Though, what, exactly, they meant by &quot;the One&quot; was not explained.<br /> :After a series of delays and changed plans, the next two chapters of ''[[Primeval Dawn]]'' finally saw release at [[OTFCC 2004]]. By this point, Hasbro insisted that all convention fiction must promote the new ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Transformers: Universe]]'' series. Thus, Parts 2 and 3 of ''Primeval Dawn'' were given a sizable dose of foreshadowing to the [[Universe War]]. In particular, &quot;[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]&quot; (now penned by ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)#Transformers: Universe|Universe]]'' writer [[Simon Furman]]) gave the following descriptions for the Vok:<br /> {{quote|We are '''''the Vok''''', guardians of '''''the One.''''' We are of the Source, the Core, forever committed to safeguard '''''the Plan.''''' But it was not always so. We began in flailing darkness, a '''''swarming''''' mass of '''''hungry''''' instinct and '''''primal''''' need. Unguided, we consumed, ravaged... Plagued the very macroverse we now seek to protect. Then came the '''''Light''''', and with knowledge and understanding. Our destiny and purpose revealed.}}<br /> {{quote|We spread beyond the one universe into the '''''many''''', across '''''every''''' plane of reality and consciousness, seeding the past, present, and future. We saw the '''''entirety''''' of the Creator's vision, the One... and the '''''All.''''' A '''''unity''''' of worlds, timelines, and dimensions. A multiversal confluence, harmonized and organized. In perfect '''''synchronicity.''''' But... The Plan is threatened. The '''''Enemy''''' of all creation is once more roused. His agents spreading like a '''''virus''''' throughout the omniversal system.|Vok|[[Primeval Dawn Part 3]]}}<br /> :Translation: The first is another recounting of the Vok's origins as the Swarm and their purification by [[Primus]]'s power via the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. The &quot;Source&quot;/&quot;Core&quot; they speak of is Primus himself,&lt;ref&gt;One year earlier, in 2003, Furman equated Primus with the Oracle, Vector Sigma, and &quot;the Source&quot; in the ''Transformers: Universe'' [[OTFCC Live-Action Drama|live script reading]] at [[OTFCC 2003]].&lt;/ref&gt; whose essence within the Matrix is the source of Cybertronian life, and who became one with the [[core]] of Cybertron, in [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel's ''The Transformers'' comics]] (specifically those written by Furman).<br /> :The second seems to reinterpret the Vok's ill-defined experiment with prehistoric Earth as part of some still-vague service to &quot;the One&quot;/&quot;the Plan&quot;/&quot;the Creator's vision&quot;—in other words, Primus's [[Grand Plan]]. Their 'quantum-babble' description of &quot;the One and the All&quot; likewise alludes to the saying &quot;[['Til all are one]]&quot;, which is now tied directly to the Grand Plan. The &quot;Enemy of all creation&quot; is [[Unicron]], whose imminent return and &quot;agents spreading like a virus&quot; across the multiverse was the key conflict of the Universe War itself, making this more foreshadowing on Furman's part. <br /> :However, much of this deeper meaning was lost on most fans thanks to the comic's release coming just two months after the publication of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', also penned by Furman. This book introduced the godlike being simply known as &quot;[[The One]]&quot;, who created both Unicron and Primus. Later, the Hasbro website feature [[Ask Vector Prime]] would claim that Unicron and Primus were created by something called the &quot;Source&quot;. And later still, the Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime would conflate both The One and the Source with the &quot;sentient core of the universe&quot; that created Primus in the Marvel comics, canonizing a few fan theories that had flourished over the years.<br /> :In hindsight, with all three of these concepts now merged together, it is not hard to see why some fans latched onto the idea that the &quot;One&quot;, the &quot;Source&quot;, and the &quot;Core&quot; that the Vok referred to in their service of Primus in ''Primeval Dawn'' was the very same entity that ''The Ultimate Guide'', Vector Prime, and Marvel had each claimed to have been the creator of Primus. Yet, it becomes clear that that was not the intended meaning behind the Vok's dialogue when one realizes that said dialogue was instead merely an attempt [[to sell toys|to build hype]] for ''Transformers: Universe''. Thankfully, when once asked directly about the Vok's service of The One, Vector Prime neglected to address that particular part of the question altogether.<br /> <br /> ====Japanese ''Beast Wars''====<br /> *'''Preface'''<br /> :To give a better idea of how the following misconceptions came about, many of them stem from how little access the Western fandom had to understandable forms of the Japanese ''Beast Wars'' media at the time. After all, when the series were first released, the internet was still a relatively &quot;new&quot; thing, where [[alt.toys.transformers|USENET forums]] were still a major outlet for fan information and websites were... rudimentary. For about two decades since that time, the most that the West had access to were a small number of fan-subtitled episodes of ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'', a fansubbed version of the theatrical feature segment ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!]]'', a translation of the first ''Beast Wars II'' [[Catalog#Beast Wars II|toy catalog]], and second-hand accounts from those who had seen the untranslated episodes of either series or had read each's respective [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (manga)|series]]. Over time, those who lacked an understanding of the Japanese language would misinterpret much of these series' specifics. The following are a few of the most well known misunderstandings.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Optimusx2.JPG|thumb|Well, that's just Prime.]]<br /> *'''In Japanese ''Beast Wars'' continuity, Optimus Primal and Megatron were the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes.'''<br /> :Initially, both ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] were identified in early packaging as new incarnations of Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], respectively, in the Western release of the toyline. This was most evident in the bios of the Basic class bat Optimus Primal and alligator Megatron toys, the very first toys of the two. But, the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] would do away with this by firmly establishing that the two were instead separate individuals from their Generation 1 namesakes.<br /> :When ''Beast Wars'' was first brought over to Japan, Takara evidently thought that the original notion was still the case: Optimus Primal was renamed &quot;Convoy&quot;, the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, and the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] factions were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon factions—&quot;Cybertron&quot; and &quot;Destron&quot;, respectively. Optimus and Megatron's Ultra and Basic class toys were each given Japanese bios loosely based on the English bios of their respective Basic class toys; their Ultra class toy bios even gave them the same functions as their Generation 1 namesakes ([[Supreme Commander]] and [[Emperor of Destruction]], respectively) and the one for Optimus even implied that he was the very same Optimus of old. Both of their Basic class toys were even given special redecos with new bios that ''explicitly'' claimed the two had previously been a tractor trailer and a Walther P-38, the very altmodes of the Generation 1 Optimus Prime and Megatron. <br /> :When the first season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon began airing in Japan, it was initially ambiguous on the matter, never actually saying one way or the other if Optimus and Megatron were meant to be new characters like their English counterparts, or the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes. More unhelpful to this confusion was Optimus Primal's later big-screen guest appearance in ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'', in which the cast of ''Beast Wars II'' revered him as a &quot;legendary Supreme Commander&quot;, in contrast to his depiction in the American cartoon as merely the captain of a lowly science vessel. Likewise, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] referred to a &quot;Megatron&quot; as &quot;the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history.&quot; But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or ''Beast Wars'' Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus.<br /> :Clarity would finally come in ''Beast Wars Metals'', the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's second and third seasons, which had been held back from airing on Japanese television until after both seasons had been completed by [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]], and thus did not reach Japanese audiences until after ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' were over. In short, ''Metals'' remained consistent with the original English-language version in keeping the Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars'' namesakes as separate characters. In the Japanese dub of &quot;[[The Agenda (Part 2)]]&quot;, ''Beast Wars'' Megatron even refers to Generation 1 Megatron as &quot;My ancestor Megatron&quot;&lt;ref&gt;我先祖のメガトロン, ''Waga senzo no Megatron''&lt;/ref&gt; when relating the history of the Golden Disk to Ravage.<br /> :As for the &quot;legendary&quot; status of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus and Megatron in the movie, that was (and still is) merely an aspect of long-running Japanese children's series that have multiple shows (e.g. – ''Kamen Rider'', ''Super Sentai'', etc.), in that the main hero of a previous series is treated with awe and reverence by the cast of the next series in any crossover team-ups. Optimus Primal was the leader of the good guys from the series preceding ''Beast Wars II'', so the cast of that series viewed him with due respect. Later, the cast of ''Beast Wars Neo'' did the same for Lio Convoy of ''Beast Wars II'', calling him a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; in [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]]. Heck, even [[Big Convoy]] was called a &quot;legendary warrior&quot; multiple times in ''Neo'', even as early as the [[Big Convoy, Move Out|first episode]]. To put it simply, being &quot;legendary&quot; in Japanese ''Beast Wars'' fiction is not as special as it sounds.<br /> :Incidentally, it would later be confirmed that the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon actually took place eons ''after'' the later-made ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' (see below for more). This meant that ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron actually ''were'' figures of the distant past from the ''Beast Wars II'' cast's perspective. In hindsight, this legendary status of the two in the movie fits rather well with how, in ''Beast Machines'', Megatron singlehandedly conquered all of Cybertron and &quot;viciously&quot; captured the sparks of its entire population, while Optimus saved the whole planet from Megatron at the cost of his own life. As Japan would not receive that series until [[2004]]—six years after the movie's release—this all proved rather fortuitous in the end.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''Optimus Primal was sent to Planet Gaia in the ''Beast Wars II'' movie when he flew into the alien machine at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;.'''<br /> :The ''Beast Wars II'' feature film, ''[[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers]]'', was initially released in Japanese theaters before the second season of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon first aired in Japan. During the ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' segment of this film, Optimus Primal made a guest appearance to team up with the cast of ''Beast Wars II''. At the end of the segment, he declares that he must &quot;return to Energoa&quot;; this was the name given to prehistoric Earth in the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, before its true identity as Earth was revealed. This meant that he had been transported to Planet [[Gaia]]—future Earth—from prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]].<br /> :The final episode of the first season of ''Beast Wars'', &quot;[[Other Voices, Part 2]]&quot;, ends with Optimus Primal flying up into the [[Vok]]'s [[Planet Buster|planet-destroying weapon]], sacrificing himself to save the planet. [[Aftermath|Three]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)|episodes]] [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|later]], he is restored to life after a difficult resurrection process. Since Primal's appearance in the movie was screened in Japan between the Japanese airings of Seasons 1 and 2 of ''Beast Wars'', some took this release order as a literal chronology for Optimus Primal's Japanese cartoon appearances, thinking that his final moment in &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot; was the exact moment he was pulled into the future and brought to Gaia. A statement given in the ''[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book]]'' even seemed to confirm this theory.&lt;ref&gt;Page 7: エイリアンマシンに激突した際、時空を超えて惑星ガイアにやってきた。(&quot;When he crashed into the [[Planet Buster|Alien Machine]], he crossed space-time and came to the planet Gaia.&quot;)&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> :Some even took his presence in the movie as an explanation for why the Maximal [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had great difficulty locating Primal's [[spark]] within &quot;the other side of the [[Transformer afterlife|Matrix]]&quot; in &quot;[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)]]&quot;, as if to mean that it ''wasn't'' there at the time. ''Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!'' is even bookended by sequences that recap the events of Primal's death and rebirth in ''Beast Wars''. And most of all, when Optimus is brought to Gaia, he initially appears in a glowing, yellow, ghost-like form, which ''wasn't'' the case for the story's main antagonist, [[Majin Zarak]], who had arrived on Gaia through the exact same means as Optimus. He even returns to this glowing, yellow, spectral form upon his departure near the end of the movie.<br /> :However, despite the longevity of this theory, the opening narration of the very next part of the movie—the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' season 2 episode &quot;[[Bad Spark]]&quot;—actually seems to debunk it by essentially reiterating what was true of Primal's fate in the English version of ''Beast Wars''. In this narration, Rhinox and [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] claim that Optimus Primal did indeed die in the [[unspace|transwarp]] explosion at the end of &quot;Other Voices, Part 2&quot;, and that Rhinox had brought his spark back from the dead in &quot;Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)&quot;. <br /> :While this apparently renders the ''Film Book''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s statement in error, it does seem like there was originally ''some'' intention for it to be true, given Primal's arrival and departure in the movie depicting him in his aforementioned ghostly form. But, while a neat idea, it raises too many questions and relies on too many assumptions in order for it to sensibly fit with Primal's onscreen resurrection. And since Rhinox and Rattrap claim otherwise, this would mean that Optimus was brought to the future from a different point during the Beast Wars, ''before'' the end of Season 1 due to Primal having his Season 1 body in the movie. Exactly when during Season 1, however, has never been disclosed.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> {{anchor|JBWchronology}}<br /> [[File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|thumb|Everything you know is a lie!]]<br /> *'''The characters of the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoons hail from the same time-period as the cast of ''Beast Wars'', at a point set prior to ''Beast Machines''.'''<br /> :It's almost not fair to call this one a misconception: By all appearances, this ''was'' the original intent for the Japanese-original ''Beast Wars'' shows. Both the first catalog packed in with ''Beast Wars II'' toys and the ''Beast Wars II'' manga present Lio Convoy and Galvatron as contemporaries of ''Beast Wars'' Optimus Primal and Megatron, and the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon initially gave no reason to doubt that this also applied to its story. ''Beast Wars Neo'' even featured a [[Convoy Council|Maximal governing body]] that could have very well been the Japanese version of the [[Maximal Elder]]s/[[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. But then, months into its run, the [[Emissary of the Fourth Planet|thirty-sixth episode]] of ''Beast Wars II'' stated that humanity hadn't lived on Gaia for &quot;tens of thousands of years.&quot; As the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon [[Dark Designs|established]] that its cast hailed from only three centuries after the Generation 1 era, when Earth was still populated by humans, this meant that it was impossible for the 'bots of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' to be from the same time period, and that the two Japanese series were, in fact, set ''long'' after the home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast. Of course, as it would be nearly twenty years before either series was translated in full, western fans never ''learned'' about this at the time and, with only the catalog to go on, continued to assume that its story held true for the Japanese cartoons. It was only in the 2006, when TakaraTomy published a massive [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|Generation 1/Beast Era timeline]], which adhered to the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon's dating for the series, that English-speaking fans at large first learned of this fact.<br /> :Now, to be honest, ''Beast Wars II'' probably didn't ''intentionally'' deviate from ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, but rather, just kinda goofed on the continuity, and history had to roll with it. That said, this did fix a discrepancy: By coincidence, both ''Beast Wars Neo'' and ''Beast Machines'' (both produced around the same time) featured the mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]], but depicted it in two radically different, very contradictory ways. ''Beast Wars Neo'' had presented the computer as the publicly-known ruler of Cybertron, while ''Beast Machines'' depicted it as a long-lost legend, unheard of for years until it was reactivated in [[The Reformatting|the first episode of the series]]. If ''Beast Wars Neo'' was meant to occur before ''Beast Machines'' (as was probably the intent), this didn't make any sense, but the timeline shuffle caused by ''Beast Wars II'' now helped these two different portrayals fit together.<br /> :It did create a ''new'' discrepancy, though: In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Cybertron was depicted with its traditional appearance as a metallic planet, while, at the end of ''Beast Machines'', it was converted into a [[technorganic]] form. In [[2019]], a ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]'' [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Blue Big Convoy)|pack-in comic]] fixed this last gap in the timeline, explaining how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world eons after its [[Great Transformation|technorganic reformatting]].<br /> :While these retcons have tidied things up, the fans' original understanding of the timeline has influenced several pieces of American Beast Era media over the years. The Hasbro toy bio for [[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] [[Cybershark]] referred to &quot;a rogue band of Cybertronian space pirates&quot; (an allusion to ''Beast Wars II'''s [[Seacon (BW)|Seacon Space Pirates]]) as his contemporaries, while the bio for ''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]'' [[Magmatron]] all but explicitly pegged him as the same Magmatron from ''Neo'', mentioning his &quot;[[Emperor of Destruction|emperor of destruction]]&quot; title and his involvement in &quot;an interplanetary quest for [[Angolmois Energy|energy capsules]]&quot;; the latter of which was also placed, by the bio, before the events of ''Beast Machines''.&lt;ref&gt;The full first sentence of ''Dinobots'' Magmatron's bio: &quot;Following an interplanetary quest for energy capsules, Magmatron returned to Cybertron to find an alarmingly growing population of Vehicon drones.&quot;&lt;/ref&gt; In both the ''[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]'' comic series and the prose story &quot;[[Wreckers: Finale Part II]]&quot;, characters from the two Japanese series appeared on Cybertron as contemporaries of the ''Beast Machines'' cast, at points set within a year after the planet's reformatting. The latter story even referred to [[Combatron (BW)|some of them]] as &quot;pre-reformatting&quot;. [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]]'' comic series likewise chose to depict the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' casts as contemporaries of the ''Beast Wars'' characters (though these series played faster and looser with the timeline, depicting events similar to ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' as having occurred ''before'' the home time-period of the ''Beast Wars'', instead of during or after), while the ''Beast Wars II'' Predacons [[Dirge (BW)|Dirge]] and [[BB (BW)|Max-B]] made appearances in the ''Beast Wars'' prequels &quot;[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]&quot; and &quot;[[Intimidation Game]]&quot;, respectively.<br /> :Even after the release of the Japanese Generation 1/Beast Era timeline, new media set in other continuities have chosen to continue depicting characters from ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' (and even ''Car Robots'') existing side-by-side with the ''Beast Wars'' cast, with such series as ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' and the ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' comics set in the &quot;[[Legends World]]&quot; presenting all of them living together in societies and scenarios unique to those series.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''The characters in ''Beast Wars II'' travel forward in time to Future Earth just like how the characters of ''Beast Wars'' travel back in time to Prehistoric Earth.'''<br /> :Seemingly an offshoot of the above misconception, this appears to have been born out of a misinterpretation of a scene in the [[The New Forces Arrive!|first episode]]. When the Maximal starship ''[[Yukikaze (BW)|Yukikaze]]'' takes off into space, there is a shot where it vanishes in a flash of light and reappears elsewhere within the vicinity of Gaia. Some have mistaken this flash of light to mean that the ''Yukikaze'' traveled through [[unspace|transwarp space]] forward in time to arrive in the future, as if to echo the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s own time-jump to the past in ''Beast Wars''.<br /> :This feels like an attempt to hold on to the belief of the ''Beast Wars II'' cast originating from the same home-time of the ''Beast Wars'' cast, while also aligning with the revelation of Gaia being Earth several tens of millennia after humanity left planet.<br /> :In truth, however, what really happens during the scene in question is that the ''Yukikaze'' simply travels to Gaia with no time travel involved. The ship's disappearance and reappearance in a flash of light was merely the ship going to warp speed, just like many other spacecraft of science fiction.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars II'', Apache is a drunkard as part of a Native American stereotype.'''<br /> :[[Apache]] did indeed get drunk in the first episode of the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon, but only in grief, believing (erroneously) that his earlier actions had caused the death of [[Lio Convoy]] (which didn't happen). He did not get drunk again for the duration of the cartoon, nor did he ever do so in the manga. Outside of that, the Native American stereotype &quot;common&quot; to Japanese fictions is a stoic, silent, and often mystical warrior—none of which could be used to accurately describe Apache at all.<br /> :Amusingly enough, in the sixth installment of the ''Beast Wars II'' manga, ''Lio Convoy'' gets drunk for no apparent reason and ends up trashing Apache's room.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWNeo Unicron.JPG|thumb|Looks can be deceiving.]]<br /> *'''In ''Beast Wars Neo'', Unicron was resurrected by possessing the corpse of Galvatron.'''<br /> :This misunderstanding is pretty understandable. In [[Illusion? Lio Convoy|Episode 29]], the coveted [[Angolmois Energy]] is revealed to be the life energy of [[Unicron]], who is successfully resurrected in [[Unicron Revived!?|the very next episode]]. Yet, when he makes his debut, he appears in the form of Galvatron, who had seemingly perished in the [[Farewell! Lio Convoy|final episode]] of ''Beast Wars II''. At first glance, it looks as though Galvatron's corpse had been recovered and used as a vessel to house Unicron's Angolmois Energy, and those who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply assumed this to be the case.<br /> :However, the Japanese dialogue actually states otherwise. Unicron's resurrected form is not Galvatron's physical body, but is actually an energy body made of Angolmois Energy that Unicron has deliberately shaped into resembling the likeness of Galvatron. He takes this form in an initial attempt to trick Magmatron into thinking that he ''is'' Galvatron, impersonating the deceased Predacon leader before revealing his true identity. After which , he simply decided to continue using Galvatron's likewise as his energy body's default appearance, even using Galvatron's name when transforming between dragon and robot modes.<br /> :Ironically, the misconception of Galvatron's body absorbing the Angolmois Energy as a resurrection vessel is almost exactly what Unicron wanted Magmatron to think, with the difference being that Unicron wanted Magmatron to think that the absorption was for Galvatron's revival instead of Unicron's.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BWN Blentrons absorbed.jpg|thumb|Unicron absorbs the Blentrons for no reasons related Angolmois Energy]]<br /> *'''The Blentrons are made of Angolmois Energy, and are later absorbed by Unicron to fully complete his resurrection.'''<br /> :In [[End of the Maximals!?|Episode 33]] of ''Beast Wars Neo'', the resurrected Unicron reaches Planet Cybertron in his aim to posses [[Vector Sigma]] and turn Cybertron into his new physical body. However, before touching down on the planet, he battles his way through the entire Maximal space fleet, utterly annihilating it and exhausting much of his power in the process. In his weakened state, he is then nearly destroyed in a fight with Big Convoy. His loyal minions, the [[Blentron]]s, soon come to Unicron's aid and are promptly absorbed by their master.<br /> :Since Angolmois Energy is Unicron's energy, fans who did not understand the Japanese dialogue simply misinterpreted the absorption of the Blentrons as if to say that they too were made up of Angolmois Energy, and that Unicron needed to absorb them to top off the last of his energy needed to complete his resurrection.<br /> :In actuality, the three were absorbed because, in that moment, Unicron had been significantly weakened and needed to replenish his health. Otherwise, he would have been destroyed by Big Convoy's Mammoth Dynamite attack, which almost completely dissipated Unicron's energy body. <br /> :The series didn't actually give any kind of backstory for the Blentrons. While they were creations of Unicron in the manga, no such origin was given in the show. Regardless, the idea of the three being made out of Angolmois Energy was certainly never stated or even suggested, having been born out of this misinterpretation of Unicron absorbing them to save his own life.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Beast Machines''====<br /> *'''A ''Beast Machines'' writer said, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns.&quot;'''<br /> :''Beast Machines'' was the first (but not the last) ''Transformers'' series to explicitly avoid all hand-held projectile [[weapon]]ry. While the [[Vehicon (BM)|villains]] still had traditional &quot;blasters&quot; mounted on their bodies, some of the [[Maximal|heroes]]' weapons were more esoteric (such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]'s energy-web attack, activated by putting her hands on the ground, or [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s gauntlets, powered by absorbing enemy fire). According to story editor [[Bob Skir]], this creative decision was agreed upon between the story editors, [[Fox Kids]], [[Mainframe Entertainment]], and [[Hasbro]],&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot;&gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222040119/http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Sat_06_Nov_1999.html Archived Q&amp;A from Bob Skir's now-defunct website,] where Skir responds to the gun controversy (question 7).&lt;/ref&gt; and it is indeed reflected in the toys as well. <br /> <br /> :Note that many Maximals had weaponry that was functionally no different from a &quot;gun&quot;—compare [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]'s hip-mounted energy cannons, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]'s back-mounted sonic blaster, or Optimus Primal's chest-mounted energy disc launcher to [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]'s shoulder-mounted ray guns or [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]'s wrist-mounted energy... tossing thingies. <br /> <br /> :On his website, Skir also elaborated on his own position as a writer choosing if or how to portray gun use, including this statement: &quot;Our heroes use their wiles and resourcefulness, plus a few cool weapons. Guns? I've never been a fan of them myself, and do not write heroes who need them.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://members.aol.com/zobovor/guns.html Article on the fan Dave &quot;Zobovor&quot; Edwards' personal site,] quoting Bob Skir's original gun statement.&lt;/ref&gt; Some fans interpreted Skir as condemning ''all'' gun use, even in the real world, no matter the circumstances. This led to the misquote, &quot;Real heroes don't use guns,&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/be5e55a90df944bb/b748601b997b3508#b748601b997b3508 Alt.toys.transformers thread] with the misquote and attendant assumptions right at the start.&lt;/ref&gt; which remains a notoriously persistent error in the fandom. Skir, responding to the controversy, said on his site that &quot;there '''are''' heroes who '''do''' need guns (such as the [[Punisher]]). Spider-Man doesn't need guns. Neither does the [[Hulk]]. And neither do Optimus, Cheetor, Black Arachnia{{sic}}, et al.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;Skir&quot; /&gt;<br /> :Notably, the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|series]] [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|immediately]] [[Movie (franchise)|following]] ''Beast Machines'' did return to classic hand-held gun use among both heroes and villains. However, the later ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' series once again eschewed guns, probably because of its younger target audience.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''The ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline was known as &quot;Transformers 2000&quot; in Japan.'''<br /> :As information about the then-new [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'' toyline]] began to trickle out of Japan in 2000, early rumors purportedly from Japanese sources indicated that it was officially named &quot;Transformers 2000&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;Transformers 2000&quot;&gt;http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e6436b92178f0c0a&lt;/ref&gt; It's possible those Japanese sources were also going by early, inaccurate rumors or perhaps a soon-to-be-discarded working title for the line. The idea persisted with many Western fans well after the true name of the show was revealed, encouraged by online import retailers (who were equally misinformed) using the title to promote pre-orders on their sites.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Robots in Disguise'' Side Burn was so complex, the toy's designer later apologized.'''<br /> :Basically. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Car Robots'']] [[Side Burn (RID)|Speedbreaker]] was the first ''Transformers'' toy designed by [[Hironori Kobayashi]], and it kind of shows. In a later interview, he admitted that the development process was a &quot;painful experience&quot; and an &quot;admonition&quot; to do better in the future.&lt;ref name=&quot;Translated interview at ToyboxDX&quot;&gt;http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?3,97799,97800&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''Unlike the English version, Gigatron (Megatron) has multiple personalities, a different one for each of his modes.'''<br /> :This seems to have arisen from how, in the Japanese version, Gigatron's bat and dragon modes each have their own unique-sounding voice and way of speaking. The Gigabat voice is higher-pitched, a bit dim-sounding, and speaks like how older people used to speak during Japan's Edo period, ending most of its dialogue with &quot;deansu&quot; (であんす). For the Gigadragon mode, Gigatron speaks with a much deeper, angrier, and overall more aggressive-sounding voice. Both of these differ from his much calmer and more &quot;normal&quot; sounding voice in robot mode (which he also used in each of his other modes), and are most noticeable in the first episode, in which Gigatron makes heavy use of both his Gigabat and Gigadragon modes.<br /> :By contrast, the English ''Robots in Disguise'' version gave Megatron one voice for all of his modes, and rewrote his personality to be much more theatrical and ill-tempered. This in turn made his English voice sound like a combination of the two unique Japanese voices, combining the over-the-top aspects of the Gigabat voice with the seething aggression of the Gigadragon voice.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==''Unicron Trilogy'' misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers: Armada'' (2002)====<br /> *'''Micron Legend is the Japanese dub of Armada, that was done later for Japanese audiences.'''<br /> : This misconception seems to be caused by how the series was more commonly known as Armada among most fans and that Armada came out sooner than Micron Legend. In reality, however, the notion that Micron Legend was just the Japanese dub of Armada that was done later for Japanese audiences is flat out incorrect. The series was originally initiated and produced in Japanese as Micron Legend, but due to various executive meddling by both Hasbro/Takara and Cartoon Network, the English dub of Armada was severely rushed out and released to the English-speaking market much sooner than Micron Legend in Japan, which creates the confusion that Armada was the “original” while Micron Legend is mistaken as “Just the dub for Japanese audiences”.<br /> <br /> ==Live-action film series misconceptions==<br /> ====''Transformers'' (2007)====<br /> [[File:Japaneseflowchart.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Look! No 2007 movie!]]<br /> *'''The movie series takes place in the Generation 1 timeline in Japan.'''<br /> : This is another one of those instances where one TakaraTomy thing, very early in the life cycle of a new ''Transformers'' [[franchise]], will say one thing about said franchise, and then literally ''everything else ever'' will say another.<br /> <br /> : When the live-action movie series was getting started, TakaraTomy went live with their &quot;World of Transformers&quot; website. The website timeline appeared to make the rather bizarre claim that the 2007 live-action movie also somehow took place in the Japanese Generation 1 continuity, between ''The Transformers: The Movie'' and ''Transformers 2010'' in the year 2007. However, this was ''not'' reflected by the site's accompanying flow-chart, and was established to not be the case by the [[Source:Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|''Kiss Players'' timeline]] (which noted that the movie-verse Autobots and Decepticons came from another universe when they appeared in [[Transformers: Beast Wars Diorama Story|''Beast Wars Diorama Story'']]). And of course, nothing else ever attempted to make the connection.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> *'''''Transformers'' was nearly rated R by the MPAA.'''<br /> : In the spring of 2007, it was reported that ''{{w|Disturbia (film)|Disturbia}}'', a then-upcoming [[DreamWorks]] film starring [[Shia LaBeouf]] and produced by [[Steven Spielberg]], had received an R rating from the {{w|Motion Picture Association of America}}. That film's rating was eventually lowered to PG-13 on appeal, but in the meantime some ''Transformers'' fans became confused and believed that it was ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' that had been rated R, leading to some heated discussion on ''Transformers'' message boards.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MovieCreditsNoBrawl.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Invisible credit.]]<br /> *'''Brawl is named in the credits.'''<br /> <br /> : The Decepticon tank, who was named &quot;Devastator&quot; in a subtitle in the movie, ended up being named &quot;[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]&quot; in [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] [[Transformers (2007 toyline)|toy line]]. Both Hasbro and the screenwriters, [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]], have expressly favored the toy's name, referring to the name in the movie as an &quot;error&quot;.<br /> <br /> : Since the character has a &quot;speaking&quot; line in the movie, some fans claim that the voice actor is named in the ending credits, and the character's name is stated as &quot;Brawl&quot; there. In fact, however, there's no credit ''at all'' for the character, under either name, as he has no voice actor, his &quot;speaking role&quot; being little more than echo-y electronic gibberish.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BanachekMustacheMan.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|One of these is not like the others.]]<br /> *'''The Decepticons' hologram is Tom Banachek.'''<br /> <br /> : Several Decepticons in the movie are seen using a holographic &quot;pilot&quot;/&quot;driver&quot; based on the same short-haired, mustache-clad human with an intense stare, only wearing different clothes to match their respective [[alternate mode]]s. Since [[Tom Banachek]], the head of [[Sector Seven]]'s Advanced Research Division, also sports a mustache, a short-cropped hairstyle and a pretty intense stare, many fans mistakenly believe that the Decepticons' hologram is meant to look like him.<br /> <br /> : There are two problems with that. One, the Decepticons' hologram, dubbed &quot;[[Moustache Man]]&quot; in the credits, is played by real-life United States Air Force Major [[Brian Reece]], whereas Tom Banachek is portrayed by established actor [[Michael O'Neill]].<br /> <br /> :Two... how would the Decepticons know who Banachek even was to model a hologram after him?<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Revenge of the Fallen''====<br /> *'''Barricade's return?'''<br /> :A common misconception among fans is that [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang alternate mode was spotted on the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', possibly as part of the alleged &quot;disinformation campaign&quot; director [[Michael Bay]] repeatedly insisted he had initiated. In fact, however, a truck transporting three &quot;Barricade&quot; prop vehicles was spotted in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than ''two months'' before principal shooting for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' started.&lt;ref name=&quot;vehspotted&quot;&gt;[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; There's been no indication that this had any significance other than moving the prop cars... someplace. Barricade would not make his reappearance until the ''next'' movie, ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Dark of the Moon''====<br /> *'''Optimus Prime let the Decepticons take over Chicago.'''<br /> :Given the comparatively darker tone—and a decidedly more ruthless interpretation of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—of the first five live-action films when compared to the majority of the ''Transformers'' franchise, one common criticism of ''Dark of the Moon'' was Prime's apparent complacency in the face of the Decepticon attack on [[Chicago]] after the destruction of the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''—sometimes interpreted by some fans and critics as him &quot;teaching Earth a lesson&quot; after humanity unanimously agrees to exile Prime's Autobots in the hopes of appeasing [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. This reading of the film seems to misinterpret Prime's line of &quot;now your leaders will understand&quot; and &quot;we needed them to believe that we had gone&quot; as Prime having engineered the entire crisis for his own political gain; the second line assuredly refers to the ''Decepticons'', as Optimus and company faking their deaths allowed the heroes to sneak to Chicago and catch Megatron's forces by surprise. Even without the script, Cape Canaveral and Chicago are ''very'' far apart; if we assume that the Autobots hightailed it to Chicago seconds after splashing down in the Atlantic, it would ''still'' take them about eighteen hours to get there, a time discrepancy that more or less matches up with the way events play out onscreen.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Bumblebee''====<br /> *'''Bumblebee is a reboot, and is separate from the rest of the &quot;Bayverse&quot;'''.<br /> : ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' was initially conceived as a straight prequel to the ''Transformers'' films, chronologically falling between the [[World War II]] flashback sequences seen in ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]'' and the 2007 ''Transformers'' film. However, the movie was hastily retooled relatively late into production, tweaking the film's opening to show Bumblebee arriving on Earth in the 1980s, and, as a result, became more-or-less irreconcilable with both the information given by the ''The Last Knight'' and the various prequel comics that had gone before. Likely due to a combination of wishful thinking and resentment of the Bay films, members of the fandom and various mainstream nerd sites quickly jumped on the idea that ''Bumblebee'' was now a &quot;reboot&quot; of the film series as a whole, similar to the {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe}}'s interpretation of [[Spider-Man]] vs. his prior two cinematic outings—though both [[Hasbro]] and [[Paramount Pictures]] have been fairly mum on just how ''Bumblebee'' and the five prior Bay films will fit together moving forward: the closest we've gotten to a conclusive answer is that the film represents the start of a &quot;new storytelling universe,&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467064/looks-like-bumblebee-is-officially-the-start-of-a-new-transformers-movie-universe &quot;Looks Like Bumblebee is Officially The Start Of A New Transformers Movie Universe]&lt;/ref&gt; which is... a pretty ambiguous statement, to say the least. Other fiction, such as the ''[[Sector 7 Adventures: The Battle at Half Dome]]'' comic included with the home media release of the film, has continued to tie the events of ''Bumblebee'' to the rest of the live-action film series, suggesting Hasbro is at least maintaining its prequel status for now.<br /> <br /> : This vaguery has only continued in the lead-up to ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]'', with the only official statement being their desire to avoid the &quot;timeline&quot; of the first five films. This is almost certainly meant to refer to the time''frame'' of the preceding films' events, with ''Rise of the Beasts'' being yet another prequel story set before the 2007 film, rather than any kind of alternate timeline. Either way, for the moment, we're no closer to a definitive answer.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==''Animated'' misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''Hasbro can't make new toys based on Animated characters without Cartoon Network's approval.'''<br /> <br /> : While not rooted in any specific source, there has been a longstanding misconception that because they produced the cartoon and collaborated with Hasbro on the toy designs, [[Cartoon Network]] maintains partial (if not complete) ownership over the character designs in ''Transformers Animated'', and is thus the reason why no new toys of the characters have been released in years.<br /> <br /> : In truth, Hasbro owns ''Animated'' lock, stock, and barrel. A quick glance at the legal jargon on the back of any ''Animated'' toy packaging will show Hasbro as the sole [[copyright]] holder listed. In fact, the only legalese mentioning Cartoon Network is the [[trademark]] for their own name and logo, due to printing &quot;AS SEEN ON CN!&quot; on the box. A handful of ''Animated'' toys were also released after the show ended via [[Fun Publications]], which also listed Hasbro as the sole copyright holder. Similarly, Cartoon Network goes unmentioned in the copyrights for other merchandise like DVDs and tie-in comics. In Japan, the [[Blackarachnia (Animated)#Toys|''Animated'' Blackarachnia toy]] was even retooled years after ''Animated'' ended to create the [[Blackarachnia (BW)/toys#Legends|''Legends'' toy for ''Beast Wars'' Blackarachnia]], again with no mention of Cartoon Network anywhere.<br /> <br /> : The only place you'll find a Cartoon Network copyright is in the credits of the episodes themselves, but Hasbro appears to have long since bought out whatever rights Cartoon Network retained, hence their ability to freely upload ''Animated'' clips to their YouTube channels and make it available for streaming alongside their other ''Transformers'' cartoons on services like [[Tubi]] (very much unlike [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)#Production|the one show we know they ''don't'' have all the rights to]]). And in either case, as mentioned above, it wouldn't prevent them from making new toys using those characters or designs. A much more likely explanation is Hasbro simply wanting new toys to fit a certain aesthetic, one that ''Animated''&lt;nowiki&gt;'&lt;/nowiki&gt;s designs don't quite fit. So instead, they simply choose to adapt the characters to fit the new medium, such as with [[Bulkhead (Prime)|''Prime'' Bulkhead]] or [[Clobber (Cyberverse)|''Cyberverse'' Clobber]]. The most overt case of this is the 2015 release of the [[Slipstream (Animated)#Legends|''Legends'' Slipstream toy]], retooled from the non-''Animated'' [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Windblade toy]] but explicitly spelled out to be the ''Animated'' character via the [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|accompanying issue]] of the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Legends'' comic]], which itself featured multiple cameos by ''Animated'' characters.<br /> <br /> : Basically, there's nothing stopping them from making new toys based on ''Animated'' characters if they wanted to... they just don't want to.<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The Japanese dub of ''Transformers Animated'' presents it as a prequel to the live-action movies.'''<br /> <br /> : This appears to have ''some'' basis: back in March 2010, the then-recent edition of ''[[TV Magazine]]'' published some early pre-release information about the Japanese dub of the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'' cartoon]]. Among the details announced was the name-change of [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to &quot;Ironhide&quot;, and changing his character to be closer in personality to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] from the [[live-action film series|live-action movies]]. The article allegedly also claimed that because [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] was not Supreme Commander of the Autobots in ''Animated'', the cartoon would be &quot;set chronologically before the live action movies&quot;.&lt;ref name=&quot;tvmagani&quot;&gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/animated-8/latest-edition-of-tv-magazine-reveals-new-transformers-animated-japan-details-169265/ TFW2005 reporting on ''TV Magazine'' article about the Japanese dub of the ''Transformers Animated'' cartoon], March 2010.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : In actuality, however, not much of this has been reflected in the dub itself: aside from the aforementioned renaming of Bulkhead into &quot;Ironhide&quot;, there's nothing in the Japanese dub that ties the ''Animated'' cartoon any closer to the live-action movies than its American counterpart.<br /> <br /> : TakaraTomy chose to use the movie-style branding for ''Animated'' products, rendering the &quot;Transformers Animated&quot; logo in the gray steel look used for the movies.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Aligned Continuity misconceptions==<br /> ===Toys===<br /> *'''''Transformers: Prime'' was not initially planned to have any toys.'''<br /> :The [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|toy line]] for ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers: Prime]]'' was ''very'' delayed, debuting roughly a year after the associated cartoon had premiered. Previously, at a [[BotCon 2010]] panel about the then-upcoming ''Prime'' cartoon, a Hasbro representative had made a statement that they weren't talking about toys just then. ''Transformers'' fandom being [[Red Alert (G1)|what]] [[Breakdown (G1)|it is]], a widespread belief developed that Hasbro was never going to make ''Prime'' toys ''at all.'' As additional information gradually surfaced, this evolved into a rumor that ''Prime'' would only have a small number of toys, with some further speculating that they would also be limited to the Deluxe [[size class]] (since initially only Deluxes had been seen). The eventual revelation of a full ''Prime'' toyline caused the belief to evolve once more, with the new theory being that there wasn't ''originally'' going to be a ''Prime'' toyline, but Hasbro changed their minds due to demand.<br /> :The reality, as usual, was much less apocalyptic. The statement from the Hasbro Studios panel was never intended to refer to anything except the panel itself—the people ''in that room'' weren't going to be discussing toys ''at that panel''. (In fact, [[Eric Siebenaler]] expressed excitement about [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'s toy at the very same panel.) As for the delay in the line's launch, put simply, this was for appearance's sake. Hasbro wanted to establish ''Prime'' as a strong ''fictional'' franchise, rather than merely [[To sell toys|a glorified toy commercial]], and reasonably concluded that launching a toyline immediately would detract from that goal. There ''was'' a point when a few ''Prime'' toys were planned to be released under the ''[[Transformers: Generations]]'' banner, but since ''Generations'' was at that time exclusively Deluxes, the aforementioned Bulkhead (a Voyager) indicates that this idea had already been abandoned when the rumors started.<br /> :In short, this is just a matter of fans jumping to conclusions based on misinterpreted statements.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Fiction===<br /> *'''The High Moon Studios games are part of G1.'''<br /> {{quote|We really did look very closely at Generation 1 stuff and tried to capture what for us was the essence of the characters.|[[Sean Miller]], Director Character and Animation|[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]}}<br /> :With its designs aiming at a video gamer audience who grew up with [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], the development team for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]'' took a great deal of inspiration from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original cartoon]] for such things as characters and the design aesthetic for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Gameinformer interview]&lt;/ref&gt; A [[Commercial#War for Cybertron|commercial]] even depicted Shockwave ordering Soundwave to play [[The Touch|a song]] made famous by the [[The Transformers: The Movie|original animated movie]]. Furthermore, War for Cybertron toys were sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toyline that featured Generation 1-styled characters. These factors led many to believe the game was actually part of Generation 1.<br /> <br /> :To be fair, there was and is virtually no information available to the average fan that ''War for Cybertron'' is not part of Generation 1. Hasbro has essentially been folding ''War for Cybertron'' into their modern continuity, and have been informing dedicated fans of this fact through [[Hasbro Q&amp;A|question and answer sessions]].&lt;ref&gt;&quot;The official story of the original 13 and specifically Alpha Trion has not been explored fully in the modern continuity that Transformers War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are a part of.&quot; [[Hasbro Q&amp;A/September 2010: Answers]]&lt;/ref&gt; The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|''War for Cybertron'' comic adaptation]] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline] actually are adaptations from ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'', which is the basis for the new modern continuity fiction.<br /> <br /> :Canonically, both WfC and its sequel ''Fall of Cybertron'' are in the Aligned continuity, but beyond suggestions and mandatory changes from Hasbro, High Moon Studios doesn't seem to care about Hasbro's declarations of canon. In the art book for the sequel to WfC, ''[[The Art of Transformers: Fall of Cybertron]]'', the only influences of the concept art and designs mentioned are G1 related. Dreamwave, the original cartoon, and other concepts and ideas from Generation 1 are cited, but the fact that Cliffjumper's head is based off of ''Prime'' Cliffjumper's is not mentioned, nor are the modifications to Optimus Prime's gun, Megatron's new body, [[Tox-En]], or the other assorted influences from Prime. <br /> <br /> :[[High Moon Studios]] has often described the games as prequels to the G1 cartoon. More savvy fans would recognize that the game is generally irreconcilable with the cartoon (or any other Generation 1 continuity for that matter): the circumstances of [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]'s rise to power would contradict &quot;[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]&quot;, and Optimus's [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|predecessor]] does not possess the Matrix, unlike his [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#The Transformers cartoon|cartoon counterpart]]. The Autobots left Cybertron because the [[Core]] shut down, not because energy sources were depleted, and characters like [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]], [[Breakdown (WFC)|Breakdown]], [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbots]], and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] wouldn't be on Cybertron or even ''exist''. Additionally, the game draws inspiration from other continuities, including characters not from Generation 1 like [[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] and [[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]]. The game does share a lot of similarities with Dreamwave's ''[[War Within (franchise)|War Within]]'' series (where Jetfire and Trypticon are present), but it cannot take place in that continuity either.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==Companies==<br /> ===Marvel Comics===<br /> *'''John Romita designed the Generation 1 character models.'''<br /> :The rumor here comes about through a misreading of the credits to ''[[The Transformers Universe]]''. Legendary Marvel Comics artist John Romita, Sr. was listed as &quot;Art Director&quot;, leading readers to assume that he was in charge of designing or developing the various [[character model]]s used in the series (and reprinted in said comic). However, Romita was actually the Art Director for Marvel Comics as a whole at the time. The majority of the character models were in fact done by [[Floro Dery]], who went uncredited.&lt;ref&gt;See [http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/01/11/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-85/ Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed] for more information.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===TakaraTomy===<br /> *'''Takara was taken over by Tomy.'''<br /> :In 2005, it was announced that Takara, longtime Japanese manufacturer/distributor of Transformers toys, and former competitor Tomy would merge into a new company, named [[TakaraTomy]], as of [[March 1]], 2006. Some fans misinterpreted the media coverage, believing that Takara had been bought out by rival Tomy. This was not helped by official press releases declaring Tomy the &quot;surviving company&quot;, Tomy having the majority of shares, and the merged company simply going by the name &quot;Tomy&quot; outside Japan.<br /> :The name issue is easily explained, as it was done for purely pragmatic reasons. &quot;Tomy&quot; is an internationally established brand, since the company already had divisions in many other countries prior to the merger, and distributed their toys under their own name there. Takara, meanwhile, had mostly abandoned ventures into international markets years ago, and had its products distributed through other companies (such as [[Hasbro]]) instead. Therefore, the merged company decided to use the better-known name for its international business, while it would continue as &quot;TakaraTomy&quot; within Japan itself.<br /> :Now, as for the specifics of the merger... Although the merger ratio was set at 0.356 of a Tomy share for each Takara share (including a split of Tomy's stock), and the companies announced a layoff of 15% of their combined workforce mostly on the Takara side, the term &quot;merger&quot; (as compared to &quot;take-over&quot;) was prominently used in all the official announcements by the two companies, and twisting tiny details into a de facto &quot;takeover&quot; of Takara by Tomy is effectively splitting hairs.<br /> <br /> *'''e-Hobby is owned by Takara (TakaraTomy).'''<br /> :The [[e-HOBBY]] shop is owned by Part One, Ltd. Although the company has had close ties with Takara for decades, the online store also sells toys by other companies, primarily TakaraTomy's rival [[Bandai]].<br /> :The online store ''directly'' owned by TakaraTomy, meanwhile, is [[TakaraTomy Mall]] (formerly Toy Hobby Market).<br /> <br /> ===IDW Publishing===<br /> *'''Hasbro pays IDW to publish comics for them, and profit directly from the comics selling well.'''<br /> :Presumably stemming from the fact that most Transformers ''cartoons'' are commissioned by Hasbro in order to advertise their toys, a lot of fans are under the impression that Hasbro pays IDW Publishing and other licensees to produce ''Transformers'' comics for them. This is the exact opposite of how licensed comics work; IDW pays Hasbro for the privilege of publishing ''Transformers'' comics, and IDW keeps all the profits outside of that licensing fee. As such, Hasbro doesn't have any particular investment in the comics selling well, other than their indirect effects on toy sales and potential negative press caused by &quot;failing&quot; comics; all that matters to Hasbro is that they sell well enough that IDW keep paying for the license.<br /> <br /> *'''The [[Hasbro Universe]] was pushed on IDW by Hasbro.'''<br /> :While Hasbro is mostly hands-off with IDW's comics, one of the terms of the license is that IDW needs to work with Hasbro to do [[To sell toys|occasional promotion]] for new and upcoming toys; this most obviously took place with events such as [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]], [[Combiner Wars (comic)|Combiner Wars]] and [[Titans Return (comic)|Titans Return]] — and, if we're being honest, has resulted in some of the less popular arcs from &quot;phase 2&quot; of IDW.&lt;ref&gt;[[James Roberts]] has apologised on multiple occasions for Dark Cybertron, which says a lot.&lt;/ref&gt; As such, when IDW announced that they were bringing [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|several]] [[Rom|other]] [[Action Man|Hasbro-]][[M.A.S.K. (franchise)|owned]] [[Micronauts|franchises]] into their [[2005 IDW continuity|acclaimed Transformers universe]], a lot of fans assumed that this was the result of another Hasbro mandate, especially given their stated desire to have a &quot;Transformers {{w|Marvel Cinematic Universe|Cinematic Universe}}.&quot; It also bore a startling resemblance to the shuttered plans to use the [[Aligned continuity family]] to launch a shared universe, even sharing the name of [[Unit:E]]. However, the creative teams involved were open from the start about the decision being an internal one that IDW had to ask Hasbro for permission to do.<br /> :Reportedly, the decision stemmed from IDW obtaining multiple additional Hasbro licenses, and [[Chris Ryall]] and [[Christos Gage]] suggesting that G.I. Joe appear in their ''ROM'' comic; this led to [[John Barber]] bringing up [[Andrew Griffith]]'s suggestion that IDW's ''G.I. Joe'' universe could fit &quot;between&quot; big ''Transformers'' events, which led to all of them suggesting to [[Cullen Bunn]] that the Earth that the [[Micronaut]]s visited be the ''ROM''/''Transformers''/''G.I. Joe'' one... and, well, it all spiralled from there. Hasbro were apparently very on board with the idea, but it was far from something that they pushed onto unwilling creators.<br /> <br /> *'''The Hasbro Universe comics are responsible for the ending of the 2005 IDW continuity.'''<br /> :Given that IDW announced that they were concluding their [[2005 IDW continuity|main continuity]] less than two years after the VERY controversial Hasbro Universe was first announced, a lot of fans were under the impression that the shared universe, and the relaunch of [[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|''The Transformers'']] and [[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|''More than Meets the Eye'']] into ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' and [[The Transformers: Lost Light|''Lost Light'']], were responsible for tanking sales to the point that IDW decided that it would be more profitable to reboot.<br /> :However, the reason that those titles were relaunched in the ''first'' place is that their sales were on an unsustainable downwards spiral; and, other than a brief sales spike for the [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|first]] [[New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|issues]] of the relaunched series, the relaunch did pretty much nothing to the sales trends, which continued to decrease at the same level as they had from around the 51st issues to the relaunch.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/670-general-comics-discussion/page-60#entry3661883 Sales chart of the Phase 2 IDW ongoings]&lt;/ref&gt; While the Hasbro Universe titles generally didn't sell ''great'', they didn't affect the sales of the ongoing ''Transformers'' series.<br /> <br /> *'''Chris Ryall was kicked out of IDW because he conspired to break Hasbro mandates.'''<br /> :He ''really'' wasn't, guys. In fact, he was [http://hasbrouniverse.libsyn.com/interview-chris-ryall outright surprised by the idea that this was a rumor going around].<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{Reflist|2}}<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[http://web.archive.org/web/20121116134912/http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 Ten popular but incorrect rumors about Japanese Transformers, retrieved November 16, 2012] (archived)<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Fandom]]<br /> [[Category:Lists]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Reboost&diff=1595949 Reboost 2022-02-27T15:48:58Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> :''Reboost is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-54-Reboost.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|For a guaranteed ratings smash, dig it up out of the trash; c'mon, just Reboost it!]]<br /> <br /> '''Reboost''' (リブースト ''Ribūsuto'') is an [[Autobot]] citadel guardian.&lt;ref&gt;Written in Japanese as ''jōto shubi-in'' (城都守備員).&lt;/ref&gt; Assigned to [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], Reboost is known for his outgoing attitude and many hobbies, including giving rides around town to humans, multispectrum landscape photography and cy-fiber weaving. The only Autobot who doesn't seem to like him is [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]. Unlike most Transformers, Reboost didn't scan his beloved Honda City R [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]], but physically merged his life core with one, after being reduced to his [[personality component]] by [[Marlboor Dynamic|Marlboor]], which reads to the machine-loving little Autobot as a kind of bodyjacking. Reboost is quite familiar with that kind invasion of privacy, though. The story behind his coming to Earth is a tragic tale of love lost, but you wouldn't know it by talking to him. <br /> <br /> Reboost can separate his consciousness into his autonomous [[Component X]] drone, allowing it to run interference using his [[Holomatter]] avatars, but his most impressive power is his Boost Key special ability. Reboost can power up the life force of any organism, organic or metal, granting them increased power and even regenerative properties. Its only downside is Reboost's own lack of medical knowledge: there's no guarantee he'll restore what needs restoring, limiting its potential uses. <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Masterpiece'' toy bios===<br /> {{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Source:MP-54 Cybertron Citadel Guardian Reboost|''Masterpiece'' Reboost bio}}}}<br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> *'''Reboost''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-54'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Laser Gun&quot;, &quot;Rocket Pod&quot;, &quot;Double Laser Gauntlet&quot;, &quot;[[Component X]]&quot;, &quot;[[Holomatter]] Avatar&quot;<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Reboost is a redeco and retooling of the simultaneously-released [[Skids (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-53 Skids]], based on the red version of ''[[Diaclone]]'' No. 6 Honda City R.<br /> <br /> :Reboost transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City R vehicle mode, and he also features the same alt mode functionalities that other versions of the mold had such as opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Reboost comes included with a &quot;Laser Gun&quot; that can be folded into a more compact form for storage in Reboost's vehicle mode rear trunk, a &quot;Rocket Pod&quot;, and a &quot;Double Laser Gauntlet&quot; which shares tooling with Skids's twin electron blaster. Reboost also comes with [[Component X]], based on the fold-out motocompo included with real-life Honda subcompact cars. In addition, Reboost includes a [[Holomatter]] Avatar driver that can ride inside Reboost's interior in vehicle mode, which is a transparent version of the [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#MP47|Spike Witwicky]] figure included with [[Hound (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Hound]].<br /> <br /> :This tooling, complete with scooter, was redecoed into fellow ''Diaclone'' alumnus [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> ::*[[Source:MP-54 Cybertron Citadel Guardian Reboost|''Masterpiece'' Reboost bio translation]]<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|''Diaclone'' Reboost and moldmates [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], and... [[Red Five]] is that you?]]<br /> *Reboost was created to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Honda City R (ホンダ・シティ{{ruby|R|アール}})in its iconic red color scheme, the car itself being significantly more famous than Skids in Japan.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/techspecs/interviewkojinono.html Design interview] with Kōjin Ōno&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> **''Diaclone'' veteran and current ''Masterpiece'' designer [[Kōjin Ōno]] happened to own just such a red City R himself. It's not just anyone who gets to make their car into a Transformer. Twice!<br /> *Reboost's ''Diaclone''-based red colouration often lends to confusion with the burnt orange form of [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] known as [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]], himself inspired by [[Mudflap (ROTF)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Mudflap]]. Remember, Reboost has the blue head, hands, and feet while Screech has dark grey hands and feet.<br /> *The Crosscut/Reboost tooling was considered for inclusion in the Generation 1 line long enough for the Reboost colouration to be used by Takara in a preliminary 1985 packaging mural.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1131664542986133504] Close-up look by @tfwiki on Twitter&lt;/ref&gt; (Said mural featured other oddities, such as Skids in [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|the black deco]] as well as the distinctive prototype version of [[Superion (G1)#Notes|Superion]].)<br /> *The Honda City R received its own bio in Reboost's ''Masterpiece'' release and even got top billing over Reboost himself! Japan *really* likes this car you guys.&lt;ref&gt;[https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/wordpress/wp-content/themes/tf/img/products/tf_mp/item_tf_mp-54_manual.pdf ''Masterpiece'' Reboost instructions] at TakaraTomy's Transformers webpage&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:YellowCorvette&diff=1595948 User:YellowCorvette 2022-02-27T15:39:13Z <p>YellowCorvette: Created page with &quot;Hello there. I&#039;m just some random here who lurks around TFWiki and occasionally edits or updates minor parts in various pages.&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>Hello there.<br /> <br /> I'm just some random here who lurks around TFWiki and occasionally edits or updates minor parts in various pages.</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Skids_(G1)&diff=1595732 Skids (G1) 2022-02-26T10:07:29Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|primusvanguard}}<br /> {{featured}}<br /> {{disambig3|Skids}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> :''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[File:Skidsg1.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|Everyone forgets me, [[Nudge gun|even me]].]]<br /> '''Skids''' is a theoretician. This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids comes with his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk. In robot mode, both weapons can either peg into the top of the forearm like the original G1 Skids toy or on the side of the forearm via dedicated slots.<br /> <br /> :This toy was retooled into MP-54 [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]] that was released simultaneously, and the Reboost tooling of the mold would subsequently be redecoed into MP-53+ [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Legacy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Legends Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Lost Light crew]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> [[Category:SDCC exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Universe Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Reboost&diff=1595731 Reboost 2022-02-26T08:53:37Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> :''Reboost is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-54-Reboost.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|For a guaranteed ratings smash, dig it up out of the trash; c'mon, just Reboost it!]]<br /> <br /> '''Reboost''' (リブースト ''Ribūsuto'') is an [[Autobot]] citadel guardian.&lt;ref&gt;Written in Japanese as ''jōto shubi-in'' (城都守備員).&lt;/ref&gt; Assigned to [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], Reboost is known for his outgoing attitude and many hobbies, including giving rides around town to humans, multispectrum landscape photography and cy-fiber weaving. The only Autobot who doesn't seem to like him is [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]. Unlike most Transformers, Reboost didn't scan his beloved Honda City R [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]], but physically merged his life core with one, after being reduced to his [[personality component]] by [[Marlboor Dynamic|Marlboor]], which reads to the machine-loving little Autobot as a kind of bodyjacking. Reboost is quite familiar with that kind invasion of privacy, though. The story behind his coming to Earth is a tragic tale of love lost, but you wouldn't know it by talking to him. <br /> <br /> Reboost can separate his consciousness into his autonomous [[Component X]] drone, allowing it to run interference using his [[Holomatter]] avatars, but his most impressive power is his Boost Key special ability. Reboost can power up the life force of any organism, organic or metal, granting them increased power and even regenerative properties. Its only downside is Reboost's own lack of medical knowledge: there's no guarantee he'll restore what needs restoring, limiting its potential uses. <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Masterpiece'' toy bios===<br /> {{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Source:MP-54 Cybertron Citadel Guardian Reboost|''Masterpiece'' Reboost bio}}}}<br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> *'''Reboost''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-54'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Laser Gun&quot;, &quot;Rocket Pod&quot;, &quot;Double Laser Gauntlet&quot;, &quot;[[Component X]]&quot;, &quot;[[Holomatter]] Avatar&quot;<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Reboost is a redeco and retooling of the simultaneously-released [[Skids (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-53 Skids]], based on the red version of ''[[Diaclone]]'' No. 6 Honda City R.<br /> <br /> :Reboost transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City R vehicle mode, and he also features the same alt mode functionalities that other versions of the mold had such as opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Reboost comes included with a &quot;Laser Gun&quot; (Which can be folded into a more compact form to be stored in Reboost's vehicle mode rear trunk), a &quot;Rocket Pod&quot;, and a &quot;Double Laser Gauntlet&quot; that was the same tooling as Skids's twin electron blaster. Reboost also comes with [[Component X]], based on the fold-out motocompo included with real-life Honda subcompact cars. In addition, Reboost includes a [[Holomatter]] Avatar driver (that can ride inside the basic interior of Reboost in vehicle mode), which is a transparent version of the [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#MP47|Spike Witwicky]] figure included with [[Hound (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Hound]].<br /> <br /> :This tooling, complete with scooter, was redecoed into fellow ''Diaclone'' alumnus [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> ::*[[Source:MP-54 Cybertron Citadel Guardian Reboost|''Masterpiece'' Reboost bio translation]]<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|''Diaclone'' Reboost and moldmates [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]], [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], and... [[Red Five]] is that you?]]<br /> *Reboost was created to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Honda City R (ホンダ・シティ{{ruby|R|アール}})in its iconic red color scheme, the car itself being significantly more famous than Skids in Japan.&lt;ref&gt;[https://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/techspecs/interviewkojinono.html Design interview] with Kōjin Ōno&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> **''Diaclone'' veteran and current ''Masterpiece'' designer [[Kōjin Ōno]] happened to own just such a red City R himself. It's not just anyone who gets to make their car into a Transformer. Twice!<br /> *Reboost's ''Diaclone''-based red colouration often lends to confusion with the burnt orange form of [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] known as [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]], himself inspired by [[Mudflap (ROTF)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Mudflap]]. Remember, Reboost has the blue head, hands, and feet while Screech has dark grey hands and feet.<br /> *The Crosscut/Reboost tooling was considered for inclusion in the Generation 1 line long enough for the Reboost colouration to be used by Takara in a preliminary 1985 packaging mural.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1131664542986133504] Close-up look by @tfwiki on Twitter&lt;/ref&gt; (Said mural featured other oddities, such as Skids in [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|the black deco]] as well as the distinctive prototype version of [[Superion (G1)#Notes|Superion]].)<br /> *The Honda City R received its own bio in Reboost's ''Masterpiece'' release and even got top billing over Reboost himself! Japan *really* likes this car you guys.&lt;ref&gt;[https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/wordpress/wp-content/themes/tf/img/products/tf_mp/item_tf_mp-54_manual.pdf ''Masterpiece'' Reboost instructions] at TakaraTomy's Transformers webpage&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Masterpiece]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Skids_(G1)&diff=1595730 Skids (G1) 2022-02-26T08:39:50Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|primusvanguard}}<br /> {{featured}}<br /> {{disambig3|Skids}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> :''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[File:Skidsg1.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|Everyone forgets me, [[Nudge gun|even me]].]]<br /> '''Skids''' is a theoretician. This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk. In robot mode, both weapons can either peg into the top of the forearm like the original G1 Skids toy or on the side of the forearm via dedicated slots.<br /> <br /> :This toy was retooled into MP-54 [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]] that was simultaneously released alongside Skids, and the Reboost tooling of the mold would subsequently be redecoed into MP-53+ [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Legacy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Legends Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Lost Light crew]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> [[Category:SDCC exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Universe Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Skids_(G1)&diff=1595729 Skids (G1) 2022-02-26T08:35:23Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|primusvanguard}}<br /> {{featured}}<br /> {{disambig3|Skids}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> :''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[File:Skidsg1.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|Everyone forgets me, [[Nudge gun|even me]].]]<br /> '''Skids''' is a theoretician. This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk. In robot mode, both weapons can either peg into the top of the forearm like the original G1 Skids toy or on the side of the forearm via dedicated slots.<br /> <br /> :This toy was later retooled into MP-54 [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]], and the Reboost tooling of the mold would subsequently be redecoed into MP-53+ [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Kreons]]<br /> [[Category:Legacy Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Legends Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Lost Light crew]]<br /> [[Category:Q-Transformers characters]]<br /> [[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> [[Category:SDCC exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Universe Autobots]]</div> YellowCorvette https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Skids_(G1)&diff=1595728 Skids (G1) 2022-02-26T08:32:35Z <p>YellowCorvette: /* Masterpiece */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|primusvanguard}}<br /> {{featured}}<br /> {{disambig3|Skids}}<br /> {{suite}}<br /> :''Skids is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[File:Skidsg1.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|Everyone forgets me, [[Nudge gun|even me]].]]<br /> '''Skids''' is a theoretician. This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk. In robot mode, both weapons can either peg into the top of the forearm like the original G1 Skids toy or on the side of the forearm via dedicated slots.<br /> <br /> :This toy was later retooled into MP-54[[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]], and the Reboost tooling of the mold would subsequently be redecoed into MP-53+[[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! 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This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk. In robot mode, both weapons can either peg into the top of the forearm like the original G1 Skids toy or on the side of the forearm via dedicated slots.<br /> <br /> :This toy was retooled into [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]] and [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! 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This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]]) trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk.<br /> <br /> :This toy was retooled into [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]] and [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> {{charstubtoys}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! 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This is appropriate, as some would say his existence is merely theoretical; everyone forgets who he is or that he was there. But if they got to know him, they'd learn that he likes to daydream, get built into furniture, and pick up cowboy chicks. Skids unfortunately favors daydreaming while traveling in vehicle mode, but thankfully his excellent brakes spare him and others from incurring TOO much damage after inevitable fender-benders.<br /> <br /> Skids is also a fast learner, voraciously absorbing and compartmentalizing new information he receives. This allows him to adapt to new environments and unexpected situations very quickly. His calm, reflective nature and tendency to fade into the background sometimes causes some to question his ability to fight, but make no mistake; Skids can handle himself in battle.<br /> <br /> He'd just rather...listen to some music, y'know?<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br /> {{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English, &quot;[[Quest for Survival]]&quot;), [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English, &quot;[[Triple Takeover]]&quot;), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese, &quot;Quest for Survival&quot;), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese, &quot;Triple Takeover&quot;)|[[Lu Jun]] (Chinese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Albert Augier]] (European French), [[Ionei Silva]] (Brazilian Portuguese)}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsanimated.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Hoist, Prime, and Skids ogle Bumblebee's animation model.]]<br /> Skids was part of a strike force that was sent to stop the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from ravaging a human farm, only to meet with failure. Apparently injured in the battle, Skids underwent some repairs by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] upon return to Autobot Headquarters, where he responded incredulously to [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s report that he had retrieved [[robotic insecticide]] from the planet [[Floron III]] to deal with the Insecticon threat. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TripleTakeover Skids.jpg|thumb|Racing into obscurity.]]<br /> Later, Skids was part of a team sent to investigate bombs that were raining down on a city from a football stadium (the work of the [[Triple Changer]] [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]). Blitzwing, however, had the stadium surrounded by a massive &quot;Zone Defense&quot; maze built by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and while attempting to traverse it, Skids crashed into [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and was driven over by tank mode Blitzwing. Skids and the other Autobots' remains were then gathered by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]], who built a throne for himself out of them. These Autobots were soon rescued and quickly rebuilt, and participated in the crises that ensued as Blitzwing, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] vied for Decepticon leadership. Following that skirmish, Prowl opined that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was the greatest leader in the universe, which prompted himself, Skids, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] to form themselves into a throne for Prime; Prime refused to sit, saying that thrones were for Decepticons—he'd rather roll. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br /> =====''Henkei! Henkei! Generations'' manga=====<br /> [[File:Skids and screech.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left]]<br /> When Skids successfully proved the existence of particles able to cross over between dimensions, he put his discovery to work for the forces of good, coating his armor in these &quot;[[Dimension Slide]]&quot; particles and endowing himself with the power to move between realities, as well as a snazzy new green paintjob. In this quest to examine anomalies within the multiverse, Skids found he could summon other versions of himself from different dimensions to aid him, but for unknown reasons, one of these alternate versions wound up trapped in Skids's home dimension, unable to return to his own world. Renamed &quot;[[Screech (Generations)|Screech]]&quot; (presumably to save all the Autobots a headache), this alternate Skids teamed up with his counterpart, and together, the pair worked as &quot;Quantum Operatives&quot; policing the multiverse while searching for a way to get Screech home. {{storylink|#Toys|Skids's toy bio}} {{storylink|Screech (Generations)|Screech's toy bio}}<br /> <br /> Hot on the trail of one such multiversal anomaly, Skids and Screech pursued [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost across the multiverse to a [[Primax 209.20 Gamma|parallel dimension]] where he was causing trouble. While the two dimension-hoppers kept the ghost busy with wordplay and pop culture references, the [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of that world used his illusion casting powers to scare Starscream into fleeing the dimension by projecting an illusion of his greatest fear: [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]! {{storylink|Starscream's New Body}}<br /> <br /> =====Ask Vector Prime=====<br /> [[Vector Prime]] claimed Skids was from [[Primax 308.0 Zeta]] while Screech was from [[Primax 1008.15 Gamma]]. The two worked with him in [[Primax 308.13 Beta]]. {{Storylink|Source:Ask Vector Prime/Facebook#July 23, 2015|Ask Vector Prime, 23/07/2015}}<br /> <br /> =====''Legends'' comic=====<br /> [[File:LegendsComic DimensionalInvestigatorSkids.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]<br /> Skids would later take on a new body, blue as usual but more heavily armed, styling himself as a &quot;dimensional investigator&quot; (次元捜査官 ''jigen sōsakan''). When [[Deadlock (Cloud)|Deadlock]] caused trouble in the [[Legends World]] by bringing [[SARA]] there, Skids showed up to teach him how to use SARA's powers to return to [[Cloud World]], and also warned the Decepticon against causing any more interdimensional chaos. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}<br /> <br /> Finding there to be many more Transformers from other dimensions in the Legends World, Skids regarded this as problematic and decided to send them all back by force and seal off the dimension. Met with resistance from [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his cohorts, he summoned the [[Skids Squadron]] to fight the Decepticon leader while he personally dealt with the others. When Megatron came to their rescue, Skids entered &quot;Full Burst Mode&quot; and seemingly killed the Decepticon with a mighty barrage, only to realize the villain just sacrificed himself for his comrades. Following protests by the natives of the Legends World, Skids caught on to the fact that their world was a peaceful one without factions or war and that ''he'' was the one causing chaos and violence, prompting the investigator to abandon his plans and undo the seal. He continued to keep the dimension under surveillance, and even stuck around to look up its fictional representations of himself. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> <br /> Skids would come to join the [[Dimensional Patrol]], a G1 World organization dedicated to battling multiversal threats. He was guarding [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] at [[Neo Brave Maximus|their base]] when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]'s group came to break him out. Devil Gigatron had reformed, however, and refused to leave with Black Convoy. In fact, he removed the corruption in Black Convoy's spark he had placed there years earlier, reverting Black Convoy to his original Autobot state. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}} With the Commandos still corrupted, Skids and Black Convoy pursued the fugitives to the Legends World on behalf of the Patrol. The people of the Legends World were less than enthused by the presence of this occupying military force. Even after the Commandos were captured and reverted to protoforms, Skids and the Patrol insisted on staying until the [[Dark Ai]] computer entity was found. Instead, the Headmasters of the [[Axalon Trading Company]] helped Dark Ai re-install Black Convoy's original personality, and he then helped drive Skids and his Dimensional Patrol drones off of their world. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Black Convoy Bonus Edition}}<br /> <br /> At some point in their career, Skids and Screech prevented the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] from consuming the universe by defeating them with a new type of [[robotic insecticide]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 47|Bonus Edition Vol. 47}}<br /> <br /> Eventually, Sky-Byte convinced Skids and the Dimensional Patrol that the Legends World was not a threat, but was worth preserving. Skids brought the Dimensional Patrol to the Legends World as protectors, defending the populace against an invading army of [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]], and the rampage of [[Majin Zarak]]. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part One}} <br /> <br /> Skids continued working with the Dimensional Patrol, under the leadership of the combined Devil God Fire Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter &quot;Epiloge&quot;|Epiloge}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====''Story of Binaltech''=====<br /> [[File:Binaltech skids cardart.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|After using up all of his vacation and sick days, Skids returned to work to find that the Transformers cartoon had been cancelled.]]<br /> In [[BT World|an offshoot timeline]], Skids was the first of the Binaltech Autobots created simply with the intent of upgrading an existing, healthy Transformer, rather than in the name of repairing one that had been injured. Outfitted with self-repairing nanomechanical antibodies, Skids's body could, barring heavy damage in battle, theoretically function for thousands of years without maintenance. In both his original and new body, Skids dedicated time to studying the chronal warp on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], which gave rise to the Autobot strategy known as &quot;[[Operation: Distant Thunder]]&quot;, a last-ditch scheme should the Decepticons tamper with the fabric of space-time. That horror occurred in [[2004]] when Ravage used the [[Kronosphere]] to alter the timeline, and Skids prepared to initiate the plan and send [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s memory data back in time to avert the catastrophe. {{storylink|Darkest Hour (prose)|Darkest Hour}}<br /> <br /> The data probe was launched, but, as the timeline was righting itself, a [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived, and manipulated the temporal wave to preserve the Binaltech timeline separate from the original continuity. Possessed by the Spark of the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]], hailing from some future point in time, Nemesis Prime informed Skids and the others that their timeline was destined to produce great warriors capable of safeguarding the entire multiverse, and therefore must continue on its new course. {{storylink|Binal Time}}<br /> <br /> Skids returned to base with the other Autobots after the defeat of Nemesis Prime. {{storylink|Outlier (comic)|Outlier}}<br /> <br /> ======''Legends'' comic======<br /> Binaltech Skids was a member of the [[Skids Squadron]], a group of dimension-hopping versions of Skids led by [[#Japanese cartoon continuity|dimensional investigator Skids]], who summoned them to help force [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] out of the [[Legends World]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20|Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> ====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====<br /> {{noteukonly}}<br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-tracker.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.8|Skids exists! Really!]]<br /> In the event that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s mission would require more manpower, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had several Autobots encode copies of their personalities as light patterns within [[crystalline containment vessel]]s, including Skids. When a large number of Prime's troops were then injured during the opening volleys of the war on [[Earth]], Prime arranged for the construction of new bodies, which the personalities were then programmed into, bringing Skids and the others to life &quot;for a second time&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidsnatives.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|We bet you can't.]]<br /> Now in a new body that transformed into a blue van equipped with a bandana-wearing driver, Skids went with Bumblebee and the other new Autobots to learn about their new home. Along the way he learned about an upcoming [[Brick Springstern]] concert, and immediately took a liking to the music of Earth and the possibilities of what could be learned from interacting with mankind. When the concert turned out to be the target of a Decepticon attack, Skids and the others were forced into action, engaging Shockwave and three Decepticon jets in battle. They quickly retreated after routing their foes, so that the show could go on. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}<br /> <br /> When [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] ran out of fuel in the middle of the [[Powder River Basin]] in [[Wyoming]], Optimus Prime took Skids and a few other Autobots to prevent harm to the humans who had discovered him. Unfortunately, these humans (and their [[United States military|military]]) forced the Autobots into a retreat. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}<br /> <br /> Skids voiced some concerns about Optimus's plans to raid the heavily fortified [[Wyoming base|Decepticon base]] for information on the combining process, but Prime vetoed them. En route, distracted by a human radio station, Skids nearly forgot to activate his facsimile driver; a moment later he accidentally clipped the car of hot-tempered [[Jake Dalrymple]], who pursued the Autobots on their mission. Despite the wall of weaponry facing them, Skids made it through the battle unscathed; but as the Autobots retreated with the information, they encountered Jake Dalrymple again, who distracted Skids just long enough for [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]] to blast him off a cliff. Although Optimus Prime mourned the loss of Skids, neither the Autobot leader nor any other Autobot thought to recover the believed deactivated body of Skids later after their mission had been completed. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvelus-21-showdown-skids-beyourcar.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.]]<br /> Lying crippled and unable to transform, Skids was shortly discovered by register girl [[Charlene (cowgirl)|Charlene]], who, thinking he was an ordinary van, had him fixed up with the intent of keeping him for herself. Skids was open to the idea at first, preferring a peaceful life to that of a warrior, but after another bout of road rage with Dalrymple, the unearthly stunts he performed left him no option but to reveal his true nature of Charlene.<br /> <br /> [[File:Charleneskids.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|''Baby you can be my car&lt;br&gt;And maybe I'll wash you'']]<br /> A somewhat unusual [[Transformer romance|relationship]] ensued between the two, but more trouble soon came Skids's way in the form of [[Donny Finkleberg]], who was being hunted down by Ravage. Fleeing from the Decepticon with Charlene and Donny, Skids hid out at an abandoned mining town, but yet again, the raging Dalrymple tracked him down and shattered his windshield, knocking him unconscious and into a dream where he died through his refusal to attack Megatron and save Charlene. Reawakening, he engaged Ravage in battle again, finally finding the strength to act, and causing his foe to tumble down a mineshaft. Skids then parted ways with Charlene, having come to the realisation that their two roles in life were too different for their relationship to work out. {{storylink|Showdown!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Marvel22-heavy-traffic-skids-reason.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Oh god my arms, my arms!]]<br /> Skids returned to the Ark with Finkleberg, with Optimus pleased to find him alive. Jetfire was sent to verify Finkleberg's claim about a [[Cybertron Seven|group of missing Autobots]], uncovering a trail of spilled Transformer fuel. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} Skids was outfitted with a chemical tracker to follow the fuel trail; taking Finkelberg with him, he began tracing the fuel back to its source. En route, he broke cover to save a trapped driver from some downed power lines, a move that caught the Decepticons' attention. The newly created Stunticons were dispatched to &quot;ambush&quot; Skids - by acting as though they were his allies. The humans' [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team]] and the Aerialbots soon arrived and engaged in a three-way battle. When it was over, the Aerialbots were defeated, the Autobots' reputation was smeared, and the Stunticons were triumphant; Skids could do little but clear out to continue his mission with Finkleberg. Unfortunately, money still governed Finkleberg's actions, and that evening he sold out Skids to RAAT's leader [[Walter Barnett (G1)|Walter Barnett]] while Skids was deactivated for the night. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br /> <br /> [[File:DecepticonGraffiti-CBDonnySkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Shoulda stuck with the nice cowboy lady.]]<br /> Skids was disassembled for study, but when the Decepticons [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] appeared on Earth and began defacing landmarks, RAAT operative [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] was forced to enter into a deal with the Autobots to stop them. Skids and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the [[Battlecharger]]s, but in return for their co-operation, Skids and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br /> <br /> ''On the return trip to the Ark, however, Skids was abruptly torn from reality when the future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] [[time travel|traveled back in time]] from [[2006]], shunting Skids into [[Limbo]] to maintain temporal balance.'' {{storylink|Fallen Angel}}<br /> <br /> {{note|While Skids was lost to Limbo in the UK comics, no such fate befell him in the American stories. Luckily enough for continuity's sake, he never did anything important in the US comics again, only showing up in crowd scenes. To maintain consistency, the UK printings of these stories either redrew Skids into a different, [[generic]] robot, or erased him from the art entirely.}}<br /> <br /> Skids attended Optimus Prime's funeral, {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} witnessed the arrival of a group of [[Spacehikers|children]] within the space-borne Ark, {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} and watched [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] fight for Autobot leadership on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. He was presumably either off-lined during the subsequent Decepticon ambush, {{storylink|Totaled!}} or during [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Underbase]] powered rampage. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Skidslimbo.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|left|Oh, hey, remember Skids?]]<br /> [[File:Skidssurvivors.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then he stole [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'s head.]]<br /> ''Skids remained in Limbo for two years while Galvatron ran amok on Earth, his mind steadily succumbing to the dream-illusions created by the [[Limbo parasite|parasites]] native to the realm.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}} ''In his dreams, a brutish Skids led monsters in orgies of destruction. With Galvatron's eventual death during the [[Time Wars]], Skids was finally returned to Earth, but he had spent too long in Limbo—the Limbo parasites had succeeded in shaping a reality from his dreams, and the nightmarish monsters that he had imagined materialised on Earth with him. Fleeing from the beasts, horrified at the &quot;weakness&quot; that had led to him making them, Skids was convinced by the creatures that they would exist so long as he was alive. Their goal was to break him into joining them in their bloody rampages (and also to just mess with him). Skids lured them into a [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant|nuclear power plant]] which he had planned to detonate, wiping out the monsters and himself. However, he struggled to find the courage to end his own life in order to spare the Earth from the horrors he had birthed.'' <br /> <br /> ''Thankfully, it didn't come to that, as the remnants of the Autobot [[Wreckers]]—joined by [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] and [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] of the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]—arrived to aid him, defeating the monsters even as the creature's leader admitted they'd made up that whole 'die to stop us' thing. Skids joined with this group of Transformers, forming the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}<br /> <br /> ''Carnivac soon tired of Autobot life and Skids and the others could only watch as he fell out with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and struck out on his own.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}} ''When a human called in the rest of the Survivors to help Carnivac against the new Mayhem Attack Squad, Springer was adamant that they shouldn't help the renegade Decepticon, but Skids, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were swayed by Catilla's pleas to get involved.'' {{storylink|Survival Run}} ''They arrived just in time to save Carnivac from the Decepticons, but Catilla was killed by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and Carnivac swore vengeance''. {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}<br /> <br /> {{note|Due to the somewhat convoluted nature of the Marvel UK continuity, the &quot;Survivors&quot; plotline was continued in the Earthforce timeline, detailed below.}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Grimlockwasthatwise.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hey, who here remembers when I was damaged and shoved into the medbay? No? Well, that makes all of us.]]<br /> Grimlock traveled to [[Hydrus Four]] to use [[Nucleon (substance)|Nucleon]] to revive the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. Returning to the Ark, he also pumped Nucleon into the med bays, reviving Skids and several others, and headed towards [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Grimlock used the Ark as a blunt instrument across [[Unicron]]'s head, forcing Skids and the others to evacuate and join the battle against the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> =====Earthforce=====<br /> {{earthforcefiction}}<br /> [[File:Survivors wolf in the fold.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> When Carnivac ran off on his own to avenge Catilla's death, Skids and the other Survivors insisted Springer contact Grimlock and the Earthforce for back-up. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} Though Grimlock was hesitant to lend any warriors in order to save a Decepticon, he was swayed into doing so in exchange of the Survivors' word that they would permanently join up with his unit afterwards. Hooked up with these Autobot reinforcements, Skids and the others stormed the Mayhem Attack Squad's tropical island base. Skids personally confronted [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] in single combat, holding his own against the murderous [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}<br /> <br /> On a later mission for Earthforce, Skids and the Survivors protected an [[oil tanker]] from [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], while the rest of the Decepticons were trying to distract the Autobots with an all-out assault on their base. Undeterred by the sleight-of-hand, the Survivors caught up with Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. Skids used a flying leap by Carnivac as a distraction to catch Starscream with his liquid nitrogen cannon, and then [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] knocked the Decepticon commander into the drink. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====<br /> Skids was part of the Autobot team when they battled the Decepticons in defense of Earth's precious energy resources. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}}<br /> <br /> Goldbug later recalled the events of the previous battle. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 15|The Cosmic Adventure: Memories of Bumblebee}}<br /> <br /> ====''Regeneration One''====<br /> {{NoteRG1}}<br /> [[File:Lancer two crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|Remember when I was a main character back in our [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel]] days? Let's do that again.]]<br /> In [[2012]], when Optimus Prime discovered Megatron was still active on Earth, he took an armed assault squad of Autobots, including Skids, to put an end to the tyrant's menace once and for all. Battling Megatron's reanimated Decepticon [[zombie]]s as the two leaders clashed, Skids called dibs on taking out [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> After the battle, Skids and [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] attended to [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] as he recovered from a [[Scraplet]] infection. He then departed Earth with the other Autobots. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}} As they arrived back at Cybertron, the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' was targeted by missiles from the [[Civil Defense Hub]], though they were called off at the last second. Nonetheless, Skids and the rest of the armed assault squad prepared for immediate deployment upon landing. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}}<br /> <br /> Skids would later respond when Jhiaxus's ''[[Primum Fugae]]'' began attacking the [[Demon]]s and Dinobots indiscriminately and upon [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s orders, he and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] began prepping the Dinobots for medevac. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 2}} During the invasion of the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Skids and a team of Autobots comprising [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]], [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]], [[Jazz (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Jazz]], and [[Getaway]] aboard the ''[[Lancer Two]]'' were shot down by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces when they revealed their full defensive power. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ====''Transformers '84''====<br /> [[File:Auntie activates autobot drones secrets and lies.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Shortly after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] crashed on prehistoric [[Earth]] its damaged computer [[Aunty|AUNTIE]] registered the approaching [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] as a threat and as a defensive measure, downloaded and copied the memory engrams of the Autobots' reserve assets Skids, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], creating new drone bodies for them but leaving their [[spark]]s in magnetic limbo. However, before the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander could reach the Ark, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] arrived looking for [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] and engaged the drones in battle. Stripped of their Autobot morality and controlled by AUNTIE, the drone Skids and its companions fought well against the [[Conehead]]s {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 3|Secrets &amp; Lies #3}} but were shut down when Grimlock fought his way past [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] units and a reanimated [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] to take AUNTIE offline. {{storylink|Secrets &amp; Lies issue 4|Secrets &amp; Lies #4}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dinobots Strike Back===<br /> {{notemultipath}}<br /> {{note|In the first book in this series, Skids transforms into a red compact, matching the description of his toy's Honda City Turbo [[Alternate mode|alt-mode]] in one of its [[Diaclone]] color schemes. He is apparently even smaller than Bumblebee}}<br /> [[File:DinobotsStrikeBackBumbleandSkidsinSub.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Seen here pouting because he gets no screen time.]]<br /> Although Skids had reported the strange electromagnetic readings he'd been getting from [[Dolphin's Bay]] even before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] sent [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] to [[Bandit's Bluff]] to remove the [[cerebro-shell]]s from the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], it took [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s report that evening to prompt Optimus to have Skids investigate it for possible Decepticon activity. Prime chose [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to accompany him in [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s [[Star mini-submarine|new mini-submarine]], but wasn't sure whether to assign [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] to the mission as well, since Skids clearly didn't want him along.<br /> <br /> If Prime left Sludge out, Skids celebrated by absentmindedly crashing into [[Mount Lomas]], crumpling his hood and causing Bumblebee to notice a suspicious trail in the woods. If the pair followed it instead of continuing to the bay, they walked into a trap set by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and [[Gravedigger]], who disassembled Bumblebee and Skids to serve as the first components of the [[Autobot Memorial Power Plant]].<br /> <br /> If they continued to Dolphin's Bay and the sub, Skids traced electromagnetic waves back to some [[black coral]], then hacked into a Decepticon computer and learned of a plot to convert the coral into superfuel. Bumblebee then exited the hatch to break a piece off, triggering an explosion which trapped him in a canyon beneath broken columns of crimson coral. Without underwater gear, Skids had only two options: If he went back to the channel for help, Seaspray used his laser to free Bumblebee, then tried to sail back to the Ark, only to have Starscream blow all three of them up with a cluster bomb. If Skids tried translating some nearby [[dolphin]]s' language, he succeeded in five minutes, talking the three largest dolphins into moving the broken coral. Skids and Bumblebee brought the black coral and his report back to Optimus Prime, ensuring an Autobot victory.<br /> <br /> If Prime ''did'' include Sludge, Skids, and Bumblebee made it to the bay first, then used the sub to track the readings to an underwater cave. Bumblebee entered it, radioed Skids about Operation Black Coral, then failed to reemerge. If Skids chose to return to the Ark for help, two possible endings saw an Autobot assault save Bumblebee and destroy the Decepticons' base. If Skids tried to radio Bumblebee, the sub was promptly hit by a sonic attack from Frenzy, making it go haywire and tear through the bay. Whether Skids tried to stop it by activating the backup systems or shorting the controls out with his [[electron blaster]], he was saved by Sludge, ensuring an Autobot victory in two more endings. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}<br /> <br /> ===3H comics===<br /> [[File:Skidswreckers2.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|In the context of science, &quot;theory&quot; does not mean &quot;guess&quot; or &quot;hunch&quot;, Rodimus. You should probably pay attention.]]<br /> Several months after the defeat of [[Unicron]] in 2005, Skids was among the senior scientists (including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], and [[Rad (G1)|Rad]]) who questioned [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s plan to send out the best of the remaining Autobot science and research members to establish deep-space reconnaissance posts. {{storylink|Betrayal}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===<br /> [[File:WarWithin2 Skids.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb]]<br /> 8.2 million years ago, Skids took part in the defense of [[Altihex]], serving under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They were forced to retreat after the Decepticons overran the city. Later, Skids was in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], observing the ceremony in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and transformed into Optimus Prime. Immediately, three Decepticon assassins attacked, and though Skids acted to protect the new Prime, his arm was cut off by [[Umbra]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}<br /> <br /> Skids was repaired and he returned to his post at the [[Decagon]]. While Prime was absent, Skids picked up radar of incoming Decepticon invaders and a transmission from the force's field commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Skids helped man auto-defenses from inside the Decagon and coordinated troops in the field. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} Eventually, the Autobots' [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]] units were destroyed. Picking up their personal weaponry, Skids and the other Autobots were all that was left to defend [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and made a desperate last stand against Shockwave and his forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} The Autobots were only spared from annihilation because Starscream at that point activated one of Cybertron's planetary engines. This caused a chain reaction, which crumbled Iacon into a crater, driving away the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Revelation SkidsVehicleMode.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Trypticon plays &quot;Hit the Skids&quot;.]]<br /> During the Dark Ages, when Optimus Prime and Megatron both disappeared into a prototype spacebridge, both factions splintered into several sub-groups. Skids served under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s faction of Autobots. {{storylink|Fragmentation (G1)|Fragmentation}} Together, they investigated reports that the Decepticons were in the process of building a mobile fortress, only to find [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] already completed and battle-ready in the [[Praetorus Wharf]]. {{storylink|Devastation (issue)|Devastation}} Finding that nothing they threw at the giant Decepticon had any effect, the Autobots tried to outrun it instead. Skids hid in a nearby building, onto which Trypticon jumped to crush him. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}} Though battered by the incident, Skids managed to survive it, and was brought back to [[Autobase]] for repairs. As [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] was tending to his wounds, The Fallen broke into the Autobots' headquarters, re-appropriated [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from one of their holding cells, and took off. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Once The Fallen's base of operations was uncovered, Skids joined a cross-faction army in rushing it to put an end to the ancient Transformer's scheme. Ultimately, The Fallen was defeated by the power of [[Primus]] himself, and all factions agreed to keep the chamber The Fallen had tried to breach sealed to prevent anyone from further abusing the power held within it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}<br /> <br /> At some point, Ultra Magnus took command of the Autobots, and reunited them into a single faction. Under his leadership, the Autobots gained a significant hold over Cybertron's resources and territories. This eventually forced the [[Ultracon]]s and Shockwave's Decepticons to sign a peace treaty with the Autobots. Skids was in attendance at the signing of the truce, which was interrupted by a bombing, engineered by Starscream and his Predacons. This act of aggression only served to unite the Autobots, Ultracons, and Decepticons however, who struck back against Starscream's troops. A united Cybertron finally seemed within reach... that is, until Megatron made a dramatic return, accompanied by an army of [[Air Warrior]]s. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} Megatron quickly took over the planet, and enslaved the majority of Autobots. Skids was among the many unfortunates captured, and put to work in [[Internment Camp Pi]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}<br /> <br /> {{unreleased WW comic}}<br /> Optimus returned to Cybertron, and the Autobots were freed from slavery. {{Storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.6}}<br /> <br /> [[File:RevelationWaP SkidsReflects.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|''Did [[Pat Lee]] actually draw what is beyond this window? The question haunts my very being.'']]<br /> Skids was not among the Autobots who traveled to Earth aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], remaining behind on Cybertron as the planet slipped into the deactivated state known as the [[Great Shutdown]]. When Shockwave began reactivating the planet and successfully unified the Autobot and Decepticon factions, Skids was a member of the council of Autobots who served to represent their faction in the alliance. Few of the council members were actually suited for leadership, however, and slowly found themselves giving more and more control to Shockwave. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} Even when Perceptor presented the council with evidence that Shockwave was performing immoral experiments on fellow Cybertronians, the High Council was unwilling to take any constitutional action against Shockwave. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} Eventually, the example shown by the Ark's returning crew and several homegrown Autobot insurgency cells tore the blinders from the council's optics, and Skids gathered his fellow councilmen in taking to the streets and ousting the Decepticons from power. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}<br /> <br /> ===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br /> [[File:Skids BlackHorizon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left|Not even Prowl remembers him.]]<br /> During an Autobot peace ceremony on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids reported to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] that [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] had yet to find the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] that had gone missing while chasing [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] Their conversation was then interrupted due to a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}<br /> <br /> Skids was later stationed on the ''[[Arc II]]'' on Earth, where he helped his comrades in the field by warning them about incoming G.I. Joe [[S.H.A.R.C.]]s. When the ship came under attack by the [[Pretender Monster]]s, Skids was knocked out by [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]] while alerting the others on board. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}} He was sent to [[Pit (G.I. Joe)|the Pit]] for repairs and was expected to quickly recover from his injuries. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> In an Offworld Zone of [[Axiom Nexus]], a Skids was yet another victim of [[Bulletbike (TransTech)|Bulletbike]], murdered for a cred-key. {{storylink|I, Lowtech}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Beast Within''===<br /> During a particularly violent brawl between the Autobots and Decepticons, Skids could do nothing but avert his eyes as [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] began distributing wanton carnage onto the battlefield. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}<br /> <br /> Later, Skids was amongst the few Autobot survivors still intact despite the brutality of the battle. He and a small number of surviving Autobots rode in Optimus Prime's trailer in a desperate effort to outrun The Beast. He was then killed when the Beast took a swipe at Optimus's trailer, crushed utterly in The Beast's monstrous paw. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===2005 IDW continuity===<br /> {{first|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|''More than Meets the Eye'' #1]] (mentioned); [[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|#2]] (depicted)}}<br /> [[File:Shadowplay2 Skidsbacksoff.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.0|-gulp-]]<br /> Before the [[Great War (G1)|war]], '''Skids of [[Nova Cronum]]''' trained as a theoretician at [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Senator Shockwave]]'s [[Jhiaxian Academy of Advanced Technology|Academy of Advanced Technology]], {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} secretly recruited to the school because of his status as an &quot;[[Outlier (group)|outlier]]&quot; with special powers—in Skids's case, a &quot;super-learning&quot; ability that allowed him to master many skills. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} He was present at the academy on the day that [[Roller (IDW)|Roller]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] arrived to take Shockwave into protective custody, and his attempt to stop them was quickly quashed when the towering Roller intimidated him into silence. {{storylink| Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} It was not long, however, before Skids's teacher returned and recruited him and classmates &quot;[[Tarn (DJD)|Glitch]]&quot; and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] for a plan formulated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]] to steal a bomb disguised as the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from [[Nominus Prime]]'s body as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. Skids was somewhat disappointed that his sole contribution to the plan was not one of his many skills, but merely the fact he had a grappling hook in his arm that they could use to lower Pax into the Basilica. Despite a minor snag when the technology-disrupting Glitch accidentally jammed his hook's winch, the mission was a success. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, the aftermath of the mission meant the outliers and Pax had to go on the run. Out in the [[Alyon]] region, they discovered a new &quot;hot spot&quot; for infant sparks which looked like the Hand of Primus (or, for Skids, ''was definitely'' the Hand of Primus). [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta]], their man in Iacon, warned them the Senate wanted to destroy the spot to stop the [[Functionist Council]] exploiting it and so the fugitives had to fight off the [[Elite Guard]] repeatedly. Time-travellers under [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]] popped up and, when Skids mistook them for reinforcements from Zeta, rapidly claimed that. They saved the day but the time travellers wiped everyone's memories after... unfortunately including memories that Roller was missing in action. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}<br /> <br /> [[File:mtmte 48 grindcore.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|What did I do last night?]]<br /> After graduating to full-fledged theoretician status, Skids went on to join the Autobot army. Shortly after the [[Simanzi Massacre]], when the planet still was cooling, he became a bomb negotiator: disabling the [[anti-personal mine]]s made out of Autobot prisoners so they could die without going off. This ended when he made the mistake of mentioning Primus to the unfortunate [[Heavy Tread]], who detonated himself in a rage that anyone could believe in a god that did this to him. When Skids came to, he was a Decepticon prisoner and off to the notorious [[Grindcore (prison)|Grindcore gulag]] with a &quot;[[Inhibitor spike|mouth flower]]&quot; inside his mouth that would destroy his [[Brain module|brain]] if he dared transform. Skids used his outlier learning skills to disable the &quot;flower&quot;, having seen how the guards put it in, and began pumping his cellmate [[Quark]] for info. This brought him to the attention of the camp commandant, {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} who turned out to be his old friend Glitch, having since joined the Decepticons and granted an upgraded body. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}}<br /> <br /> [[File:SpeakMemory2 SkidsQuarkFurnace.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.9]]<br /> Glitch, in an act of basic sadism, decided to make a project out of the religious 'bot. He asked Skids to repair Grindcore's teleporter, promising it would mean fifty prisoners would be sent to Decepticon colony world [[Ambervalia]] to work as slaves. Skids told Quark that this was collaboration that would help and the fifty would be better as slave workers than at the prison; and while he didn't say outright, Skids was relaxed around the Commandant and felt he could try and make demands for more prisoners sent to the colonies, assuming he could half-trust his old friend even if he had switched side. What he did not realise until it was too late was that Glitch had been making him rebuild the camp ''smelting chamber''... something he learned only after demanding Quark get to be 'teleported'. Skids' faith died as he was forced to watch fifty Autobots die horrific deaths because of him. The memory was so traumatic that he overwrote it {{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}} and the only thing he remembered of it in his missing months was &quot;[[The Empyrean Suite]]&quot;, unable to remember the name or that this was the future [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader's favourite music to play during a massacre. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> Skids used to have an [[Amica Endura]] called [[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]]. They broke up because Chopper was &quot;an absolute arse&quot;. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}<br /> <br /> [[File:Getaway Skids ArmTheLonely.jpg|thumb|He's been trained to kick your ass. Theoretically, of course.]]<br /> Long into the war he joined the [[Diplomatic Corps]], working to persuade other races to support the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}} At some point, he disappeared and was believed dead, {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} but had, in fact, become part of [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s covert [[Special Operations]]. Partnered with [[Getaway]], he was sent on a mission to influence [[Solomus|Tyrest]], using a [[nudge gun]] to implant the impulse to resign in the Chief Justice's mind. The plan failed and Tyrest sicced [[Legislator]]s on the duo, capturing Getaway and hitting Skids with an [[inhibitor claw]] in the back. Skids was barely able to escape using a shuttle made from [[mode lock]]ed Legislators. Using the nudge gun's other charge, Skids erased his own memory after setting the shuttle to home in on the nearest of his handlers, the [[Duobot]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD2-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|How do you like me now?]]<br /> It was in this amnesiac state that he arrived on the planet where the ''[[Lost Light]]'' had crashed. Abruptly, the mode lock deactivated and the ship began transforming, so Skids made an impulsive decision: he reactivated the lock, sent the ship crashing into the surface, and bailed out. Making it to the ground safely, Skids found himself under attack from the Legislators that had made up his ship—though one of them had been killed in the crash, the other two were coming after him with giant swords and fire breath. Skids came upon the deceased bodies of two Autobots who had failed to survive the ''Lost Light'' crash—[[Hyperion (G1)|Hyperion]] and [[Polaris]]—and used their weapons and abilities to eliminate another of the pursuing robots. Running from the lone survivor, Skids came upon a small party of Autobots from the ''Lost Light'', who deactivated the inhibitor claw for him, allowing him to access his weapons and destroy the last Legislator. Skids was invited to join the crew of the ''Lost Light'', though he was less than enthusiastic about [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s proposition that the pair of them should team up. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}<br /> <br /> [[File:LiarsAtoD3-RungSkids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|MEANWHILE IN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THIS EVENT]]<br /> When a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] got loose aboard the ''Lost Light'', requiring the crew to be sealed in their quarters, Skids, decided to exploit his missing memories to entirely reinvent himself. Deciding he disliked confinement, he left through the ventilation system. Drawn by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s cries, he saved the psychiatrist from a close call with the Sparkeater, and at [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rodimus]]'s request, led the creature through the vents to the engine room where Rodimus disposed of it. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} As a celebration of the death of the Sparkeater, Swerve opened a [[Swerve's|bar]] where Skids got drunk together with [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]. He failed to notice that Chromedome stole his gun while he was messing around with his grappling hook and a server-robot. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}} After attending a ceremony to commend Chromedome, [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on recent heroics, {{storylink|The Reluctant Specialist}} Skids was next spotted still hanging out at the bar with some other Autobots as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] put Chromedome's ability to identify an Autobot based on their transformation sound to the test. {{storylink|Interiors}} He later tried to comfort Swerve following his accidental shooting of Rung. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement (issue)|Rules of Disengagement}}<br /> <br /> When a swarm of [[Nanocon]]s that had lain dormant inside [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s body were mysteriously reactivated, Skids and a few others were shrunk by Brainstorm's mass-displacement gun and sent inside Magnus to eliminate them. Once that was dealt with, Skids attended [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s Autobot Initiation Ceremony, during which he relayed Swerve's report from the engine room that dead crewmember [[Ore]] had come back to life. The chaos only continued when Skids and a team of Autobots were abruptly teleported by [[Galactic Council]] to the planet [[Theophany]], there to investigate the razing of [[Crystal City]]. Beneath the city, they found a slumbering [[Titan (group)|Titan]], leading to discussions on the Transformers' creation myths and the meaning of life; Skids and Chromedome shared a belief that life was shaped not by destiny or gods, but by interactions with others. Skids theorized that both the Nanocons and Ore had come back to life thanks to the psychic emanations of the Metrotitan, then helped [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] fend off the Galactic Council's forces until the Autobots could free the Metrotitan, which teleported them all back to the ''Lost Light'' and quantum-jumped the ship to safety. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}<br /> <br /> Inspired by their talk, Skids requested that Chromedome use his [[mnemosurgery]] to unlock his lost memories; Chromedome discovered that only Skids's last year of memories had been erased, while the others had been repressed by a trauma so horrific he did not dare restore them. Chromedome was, however, able to identify the music in his head as the &quot;The Empyrean Suite&quot;, and hoped Skids would never learn its significance. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}<br /> <br /> [[File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-SkidsRung.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.9|&quot;Legs: Yes. Bow-tie: Cool...I can buy a fez.&quot;]]<br /> Skids was among the group of Autobots gathered by [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]] in Swerve's bar to help tell a story to aid in Rung's mental recovery. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} When his old altercation with Roller came up, Whirl called him a wuss, and he countered that his skills as a theoretician wouldn't have been useful in a fight. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} At the culmination of the story Rung still showed no signs of recovery...until Skids deliberately mispronounced his name a couple of times, prompting the psychiatrist to speak and correct him. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} The storytelling session was brought to an end by the sounding of alarm to ready the crew for a battle with Decepticons on the planet [[Temptoria]]; during the fight, Skids, Chromedome and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] battled [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]. {{storylink|Before &amp; After}} Later, to unwind, Skids joined the crew of the ''Lost Light'' on some &quot;shore leave&quot; on the planet [[Hedonia]], where he tried out his new personality-generated [[holomatter]] avatar, only to find his amnesia kept it from creating a fake identity for him. As the group played the &quot;Nemesis Game&quot; in a bar, Skids identified [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] as his worst enemy, and then wound up getting into a drunken brawl with [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Skids and Whirl also engaged in some oneupsmanship with a group of [[Ammonite]]s they met in the bar, comparing the length and breadth of their races' respective galaxy-spanning conflicts. When the [[Imperius Drax|leader]] of the Ammonites' rival faction the [[Terradore]]s happened to walk in, Whirl casually murdered him to show up their new drinking buddies, much to Skids' chagrin. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Skids bought Rodimus a [[Galactic Council]] captain's hat as a souvenir of the trip. {{storylink|Signal to Noise}}<br /> <br /> When the mass-murdering Decepticon [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] ran wild on the ship, Skids joined in the futile effort to hold back his rampage. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} Overlord was ejected from the ship thanks to the sacrifice of Rewind, and Skids tried to console Chromedome over the loss of his lover, only to find that the mnemosurgeon was eerily calm about the whole thing. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}<br /> <br /> [[File:TheFecundMoon-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=2.0|Skids kind of lost it a bit after Charlene left.]]<br /> When the ''Lost Light'' encountered the long lost satellite [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], Skids got Chromedome to accompany the band of Autobots heading to the surface to see if the satellite had a way to return Skids's memories. He went to the ship's oil reservoir for some alone time, where he was attacked by a number of [[Legislator]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} While he managed to hold them off long enough for Swerve to arrive to help, a [[Star Saber (G1)|mysterious and enigmatic robot]] appeared behind him, and impaled him with a large sword. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}<br /> <br /> Fortunately for Skids, he survived this, and was later teleported by Star Saber into a cell which contained Rodimus' crew. Perceptor examined his wound, while Swerve explained what happened to them. After Skids said that he would apologize for whatever he had done to Tyrest, Star Saber returned to the cell, carrying his [[Getaway|&quot;Partner in crime&quot;]] with him. Chromedome then explained that when he read Skids' mind, he had done it wrong, and misinterpreted the remnant memory as an &quot;Imperative to escape&quot;. In actuality though, it was a name, Getaway. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Getaway was able to fill Skids in on his lost memories of their ill-fated mission to change Tyrest's mind, and explained Tyrest's mad plan to reach [[Cyberutopia]]. With the newcomer's help, Skids and the others were freed from the cell and confronted Tyrest, only to be incapacitated by the lawmaker's suggestion weapon. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}<br /> <br /> [[File:ThisCalamitousLife SkidsMeetsAdaptus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Thanks to Tailgate, the suggestion weapon was disabled, and Skids cuffed [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]], only for the medic to promptly escape when his back was turned. The Autobots caught up with him at Tyrest's gate to Cyberutopia, but only Skids, finally at peace with himself, was able to step through the guilt-detecting force field. He found himself standing on a strange landscape being talked to by a multi-colored [[spark]]. On hearing cries for help from Rung, he dashed back through the portal to help fight the Legislators until Tailgate was able to shut them down with some amendments to the law. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}}<br /> <br /> Once everything was over, he tried telling Rodimus what he saw, but he couldn't make sense of all it. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} Not helping was the fact that whatever he saw proved difficult to remember for any length of time. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> Before the ''Lost Light'' left Luna 1, Skids played a film compiled by Rewind to detail the ship's voyage. Unfortunately the film failed to impress the members of the [[Circle of Light]] who rejected any notion of joining the crew. {{storylink|Little Victories}}<br /> <br /> [[File:IntoTheAbyss SkidsGetawayRodPod.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7]]<br /> Skids was among the Autobots who welcomed Orion Pax and his team aboard the ''Lost Light''. Swerve remarked to him how weird [[Garnak|some]] of Pax's crew were. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Skids was later seen having a drink at Swerve's {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} When the ''Lost Light'' was assaulted by Ammonites, Skids met up with Getaway and Ultra Magnus to help organize a counterattack. Skids hesitantly suggested that they use the [[Rodpod]] to fight back. Despite the other's and his own concerns about damaging it and making Rodimus angry, they ended up boarding and using the vessel. Skids piloted the craft, and used it to defend the ship's fuel quills, while blasting Ammonites that attempted to combine. Skids was forced to pilot the Rodpod away from the battle when a group of Ammonites combined and gave chase to them. In an attempt to lose them, he piloted the vessel into what appeared to be an abyss, but was really the optical cavity of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}<br /> <br /> As everyone else tried to figure out where Metroplex's eye had gotten to, Getaway had a minor breakdown over the fact that A: they were inside someone's eye canal, and B: they were in a spaceship shaped like someone's head. Skids consoled him and said it was best to just roll with it. The group took Ratchet's suggestion to find Metroplex's brain, only on arrival in his brain chamber found it was surprisingly absent. In light of that, they decided to go find his spark instead. As they approached, Whirl noticed the flooding had been sealed off, which surprised Skids.<br /> <br /> [[File:TheDeadAreNotEnough SkidsArrows.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left]]<br /> On setting down, Getaway quickly found an arrow pointing toward the spark chamber, which everyone decided to follow. Skids was the one to ask whether they would lock the Rodpod, which no-one else was concerned about. The arrows took everyone on a strange course through Metroplex's interior, until they came upon... the Rodpod again. Before Whirl could properly blame the ship, an Ammonite appeared, and blew it up. {{storylink|No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|No Exit}} Fortunately, they were saved by a wall appearing to block the explosion, at which point Skids realized the purpose of the arrows: Metroplex was moving his interior about, and the odd journey the arrows had taken them on was because the direction they were meant to be pointed had change too. Then, they received a call from Swerve informing them to avoid the water, or they'd contract an alchemical virus and die horribly, and worse than that, two thousand Ammonites were heading their way. As Magnus gave orders to barricade the room, Whirl turned out an Ammonite, having beaten an explanation out of him. However, when the little guy told them who he was working for, he promptly self-destructed. Before everyone present could dwell on that, [[Chromia (G1)|two]] [[Nautica (G1)|newcomers]] appeared and told them to surrender. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}<br /> <br /> Before Getaway could charm the two fellow Autobots, several Ammonites burst through the walls. While Ultra Magnus,Ratchet and Brainstorm went off with their new friends, Skids stayed behind to fight off the attackers (that he was being mobbed by several of them anyway probably helped). As Skids fought, Metroplex was recharged by the ''Lost Light's'' engines, and transported himself back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} This didn't get rid of the Ammonites, though. That took Megatron giving the titan his missing thumb, containing the Regenesis Ore-7, which healed him and reactivated his immune system, killing the Ammonites dead. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}<br /> <br /> [[File:BlackPlanet SkidsVBludgeon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.8|SHOW ME YA MOVES!]]<br /> In the apparent aftermath of Shockwave's scheme, Skids and Getaway relaxed in Swerve's, and were witness to Swerve suffering a bad bout of hero worship when Blurr walked in. The celebrations were rudely interrupted when Shockwave made his move, summoning all the Ammonites to attack Cybertron. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Fortunately, Bumblebee had a plan of taking the fight to Shockwave. Skids was included in the team to be sent, thanks to his secret-agent-know-how. Getting to Shockwave's base of operations in the Crystal City seemed impossible, until Starscream showed up with [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]], who managed to get them there. On arrival, the group was attacked by Bludgeon. Ultra Magnus offered to hold him off, and Skids decided to volunteer his skills as well, along with a suddenly-ill Brainstorm. However, Skids's outlier abilities weren't able to match Bludgeon's mastery of [[Metallikato]], and he quickly wound up defeated. Fortunately, Brainstorm's unease turned out to be Optimus Prime, Rodimus, Cyclonus, [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] using the Dead Universe portal in his chest to escape that dying realm.{{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They quickly mopped up Bludgeon, but Cyclonus' injuries meant someone had to help Brainstorm haul him back to his lab. While this meant Skids had to miss the climactic showdown, he did get to see time itself falling to pieces in the sky above Cybertron. That, and Rodimus managing to play on Brainstorm's insecurities. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}<br /> <br /> Once the crisis was truly over, Skids decamped to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] to watch [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s trial. Evidently, he was not dissuaded from rejoining the ''Lost Light'' on its quest once the former Decepticon Leader was added to the ranks, and he set off again, this time coming along of his own volition. Six months into the quest, he was sufficiently worried to pay a visit to the widowed Chromedome with Nightbeat, though their friend remained secluded in his hab suite and Nightbeat's interest was quickly derailed, to Skids' dismay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Shortly thereafter, he, [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], and [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] all shot the bull about the ship's new gossip mag, the ''Lost Light Insider''. Though Nautica decided to exit before any rules were broken, she and Skids exchanged a bit of friendly banter before he and Riptide convinced the massively intoxicated Trailcutter to steal Megatron's &quot;superfuel&quot; out of the medibay. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}.<br /> <br /> [[File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide SkidsRodimusTheory.jpg|left|upright=1.5|thumb|Actually performing his [[function]].]]<br /> When a pod containing the corpse of another Rodimus showed up, 'our' Rodimus called in Skids as part of his investigation team. Using all the facts, Skids and Chromedome worked out (wrongly as they'd soon learn!) that this was a near-future Roddy who'd die and be sent back in time, and Skids was left aghast by his leader's desperate attempts to 'change history' like lopping an arm off. Everything was then interrupted when the ship started to ''vanish'' around them {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} and he was left stuck on a spaceship with Megatron (and Skids, who kept making snide asides when he was trying to listen). Soon, the Autobots on board began to disappear one by one and everyone had to reveal personal secrets in an attempt to figure out what was the common denominator. (In the process, Skids helped fill in Nautica on [[M.T.O.]]s and expressed his distaste for High Command's lack of interest in educating the &quot;warborn&quot;.) <br /> <br /> [[File:Slaughterhouse SkidsGetawayDiscussMegs.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]<br /> After realising only the launch crew were disappearing, the newbies like Skids found the ''Lost Light'' returned but in ruins! {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} He agreed with Riptide that this must be the future ''Light'' that dead-Rodimus had come from and worried that the evidence they found meant they bring back the crew, only for the ship to be ripped apart. In an investigation, they came across a dead Ultra Magnus, one killed by a [[fusion cannon]], and Skids turned on Megatron, believing this showed he was going to inevitably turn on them! To his disquiet, when Megatron immediately requested to be locked up until all the facts were gone, he felt ''bad''' about doing it. As he admitted to Getaway during their search, he worried he was going to stop hating the killer. The search found yet more corpses and to Skids horror, they had all been executed and their transformation cogs removed: acts that revealed the ship had been butchered by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]. Luckily for all concerned, the discovery of a still-alive Rewind proved this ''wasn't'' the future ''Lost Light'' but a duplicate of the 'real' one. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.75|Look at you! You gotta look inside yourself and say, 'what am I willing to put up with today?' NOT SLAGGIN' THIS!!&quot;]]<br /> Skids rushed to Rewind as he came through, making sure the guy was okay and filled in on things like Megatron-the-Autobot, and was pissed when Nightbeat pushed Rewind too soon to explain what had happened to the ship. That was how they learned the copy was created when the ship launched, thanks to an issue with the quantum engines, and ''exactly'' what hell Rewind had gone through. Said quantum engines were also leaking, endangering a nearby organic planet, and Skids knew they ahd to act. When Megatron refused to, bothered at the idea of risking his life for a handful of fleshy strangers, Skids tore into him for violating what the Autobrand stood for and that if being an Autobot ''didn't'' force him to modify his behaviour instead of getting what he wanted, then none of his 'rehab' meant a damn. <br /> <br /> A brief aside from Getaway gave Skids an idea of how to save the planet: using a mass displacement gun he knew Brainstorm had been making to shrink down someone to help already-tiny Rewind fix the engines. That was a bust. Nothing was found except proof that ''Brainstorm was secretly a Decepticon spy'' but no time for that now, Skids! To Skids' amazement and joy though, his bollocking had worked and a guilty Megatron admitted he could be rigged to downsize and thus he could help Rewind. Skids thanked him. Once the damage was fixed, the duplicate ''Lost Light'' vanished and the 'real' one started to come back, and a happy Skids told a returning Chromedome to head up to the roof where Rewind was waiting. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}} <br /> <br /> Oh yeah, that Brainstorm thing. Turned out he was going back in time to change history, which was going to result in [[Functionist Universe|a hideous dystopia]], and the time travellers sent to bring him back ended up running into an early Skids.{{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} Things turned out fine in the end! While time-travelling, Rodimus tried to warn the past &quot;don't let them [the Legislators] take Skids&quot; but nobody heard it, which was good as Cyclonus pointed out that Skids being captured turned out to be necessary for saving half the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|Predestination: An Expert's Guide}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE42 dance dance skidsvolution.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|''What a feeling''&lt;br&gt;''Being's believing'']]<br /> Skids' friendly nature struck a chord with [[Ten]], the former [[Legislator]] turned into a bartender. In a mural of Ten's favourite crewmembers, Skids was in the front. A further friendship was struck up when Ratchet asked Skids to chat with Rung some time, as the guy would truly appreciate being visited by someone who didn't want help from him; when Skids bought Rung a drink, the therapist was surprised and delighted. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}<br /> <br /> Skids, Getaway, and Brainstorm all hung out at Nautica's, showing off their cool skillz and generally hanging. When Rung came up, Skids was bothered by Getaway dissing the guy, but they didn't have time to discuss Getaway's passive aggressive whiny defence of it as news came in that Thunderclash was dying and everyone was invited to the pre-wake on the ''Vis Vitalis''. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} During the party, Getaway asked him if he wanted to mutiny against Megatron. Skids declined... and had his mind wiped with the nudge gun. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} Believing his splitting headache to be too much partying, he decided to flump out at the ''Vitalis'' and get picked up tomorrow. {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} That made him a target for the parasitical [[personality tick]]s, secretly feeding off his energy! Not knowing why he was so tired {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} he reached out to Nautica, sensing something was up with her, and she asked him {{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}} to teach her to dance. While busting a move, he coaxed out her issues with her old college friend [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] before the ticks begun a public rampage. After they were repulsed, Skids got better and everyone went back to the ''Light'' for a ''biiiig party at Sweeerve's!!!''<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE43 skids swerve humans.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.0| Anything could be a Transformer!]]<br /> Until Swerve suddenly vanished {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}} and a horrified Skids checked his room to find the bartender facedown, rusted, and half-dead from an infected wound. He rushed him to the medical bay for aid (inadvertently making him worse) and learned from [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] that Swerve had been holed up in his room for months, neglecting himself, and using a holomatter avatar to seem 'fine'. To Skids' great shame, he'd never visited Swerve—hadn't even known his ''room number'' until he remembered it was Red Alert's old one—and completely missed any chance to see one of his best friends needed help. He joined a rescue team sent to &quot;[[Swearth]]&quot;, a vast hologram Earth operating on sitcom rules that Swerve was projecting, to find the guy's consciousness and fix him. In his new, brooding holomatter avatar, Skids and his friends did track down Swerve and tried to convince him to focus on the physical pain he was feeling, so they could realise where he was hurting. Skids, an expert in suppression, knew Swerve was pushing it down. Once they identified that Swerve was cripplingly lonely and depressed, they were able to convince him that he truly was loved and valued by them. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}} <br /> <br /> Soon after, Skids went with a crew to check out the legendary [[Mortilus|Necrobot]]. He needled Nightbeat for having the 'debunking' itch and said that, while he no longer believed, he understood why other people were attracted to the idea that there was something after death. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}<br /> <br /> [[File:MTMTE48 skids and rung.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7| Tell me where Skywalker is.]]<br /> Under incremental recollection sessions with Rung, where he also helped fix model ships as a focusing tool, Skids had finally managed to remember ''entering'' Grindcore if nothing else; while frustrated with the slow process, Rung admonished him that learning all of it in one go would re-traumatise him. While chatting, Skids was surprised to see the long-lost [[Froid]] appear. An old friend of yours, Rung? Well, I'll leave you to get caught up! (Off he went to brood at the oil pools, trying to remember more.) Within minutes Rung sent him a coded radio message to meet him at Froid's ship as something ''dodgy'' was going on but by the time Skids arrived, Rung had learned Froid had the infamous [[Sunder (G1)|Tetrahax Ripper, Sunder]], on board and that guy ''fed'' on bad memories. The very first sight of Skids woke Sunder up and caused him to attack, starting to rip up Skids' traumatic memories to the surface {{storylink|Speak, Memory: Part 1}} before Rung could get him to safety. During the running battle against the serial killer, Rung kept trying to get Skids to Chromedome for memory suppression and Sunder duly followed them, constantly bringing up memories. Luckily Sunder was defeated by the point Skids remembered repairing Grindcore's teleport chambers for Tarn and ''not'' by the point he'd remember how he'd killed five hundred souls.{{storylink|Speak, Memory! (Part 2)}}<br /> <br /> When a small time window opened up in Swerve's, Skids used it to look back at the day the new crew members joined the ''Light'', a day that Trailcutter was still alive and openly happy. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} <br /> <br /> [[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds SkidsCarriesNautica.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0]]<br /> Skids had been part of Megatron's classes on the Knights of Cybertron and in one, to his surprise, Megatron showed the symbol that the strange spark being had 'said' to him back at possibly-Cyberutopia. Nautica advised him to write it out phoenetically to try and retain the knowledge of what it was, but everything was interrupted when Megatron and several others received bizarre messages coming from a distant planet. Rodimus assembled Skids with the rest of 'Team Rodimus' and they headed out to discover it was coming from the Necrobot's planet...<br /> <br /> ...where the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] and [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] were waiting. The Rodpod was shot down and Skids carried the wounded Nautica from its wreckage, everyone making their way inside the Necrobot's fortress. They found the Necrobot had been murdered and Skids spared a moment of empathy for Nightbeat, who had forged a bond with the ancient Transformer. A message came in from ''Getaway'', telling them that the crew had mutinied against Megatron and all those considered loyal to him, exiling them all off the ship under false pretenses. Skids was enraged to discover his former friend had actually mindwiped him, an act he ''knew'' was a violation, to keep this a secret. When the message ended and the sheer horror sunk in, Skids embraced Nautica to console her. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}<br /> <br /> The DJD made their presence known by attacking the Necrobot's fortress before retreating... promising to return at sunset as part of their intimidation tactics. Skids weighed up their options with the other stranded crew members, suggesting that they dig in and devise an escape route. The Necrobot's body had revealed a key that unlocked a room filled with at least sixty organic creatures inside strange pods. Discussion arose whether to flee, or stay and defend the people inside the pods, but the Autobots ultimately decided to stand their ground. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}} Their forces were bolstered by the returning Drift and Ratchet, who had caught wind of their predicament through [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]. Skids had the awkward task of introducing Ratchet to his replacement. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} <br /> <br /> [[File:RageRage SkidsRemembers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> With death staring them in the face, Skids was one of the Autobots who Nautica assembled for the rite of [[Amica Endura]]. She opened her spark to them, recited the ritual, and told them all how they were valued. When Rung departed with Nightbeat to investigate the mystery of the Necroworld, Skids bade him a terse and awkward farewell. Skids and Nautica spent much of the remaining time before the inevitable attack clinging to each other for comfort. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}}<br /> <br /> Shortly afterwards, Velocity hit on a potential way out: Tailgate's spark 'explosion', triggered by extreme trauma, had supercharged two security guards ala [[Ore-13]] and that could be done now! All it required was someone willing to be traumatised. Skids offered himself up and pleaded with Chromedome to finally let him know about his deep, hidden trauma. As Tarn began playing &quot;[[the Empyrean Suite]]&quot; from outside, creating the ideal conditions, Skids' memories began bubbling to the fore. A sorrowful Chromedome spoke some trigger words to his friend, finally unlocking that repressed trauma and Skids' spark erupted. As his supercharged friends ran outside to confront the Decepticons, Ratchet worked to keep the shattered Skids stable as his spark began to shrank. <br /> <br /> [[File:sleep tight, soldier.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|left|He's dead, Jim.]]<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, Skids came to and crawled off his slab, desperate to find Brainstorm and apologise for Quark's death, feebly crying that he was &quot;scum&quot; for what he'd done. Ratchet was desperate to get him back on the slab before he died but Megatron, the only other person in the fort, had left to join the battle and there was nobody to help. Skids died in Ratchet's arms, only Brainstorm noticing as his friend's 'statue' winked out. After the Autobots retreated back to the Necrobot's fortress, a distraught Nautica embraced the corpse. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}} She stayed with it until at least the morning as events unfolded outside, {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and at some point removed its [[brain module]] for safe-keeping, hiding it in her eye socket. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}}<br /> <br /> In honor of Skids, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' painted their [[insignia|Autobot Insignias]] grey. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}}<br /> <br /> During a visit to [[Troja Major]], Nautica revealed that she was seeking the [[Epistemus|Resus Cradle]], a device that was said to be capable of reviving dead Cybertronians provided there were some form of remains for it to work with—the reason she had removed Skids' brain module from his corpse. {{storylink|An Axe to Break the Ice}} Upon making contact with [[Mengel]], who possessed the Resus Cradle, Nautica discovered the cost of Skids' resurrection would be steep indeed. An emotion-trafficker, Mengel suggested Nautica sell her grief towards Skids, as well as her feelings of friendship toward Velocity. Nautica initially agreed to the process, but ultimately could not foresake Velocity's friendship, abandoning her plan to resurrect Skids. However, being as Mengel had already removed her grief- and thus ALL warm feelings she had towards him beforehand, it didn't bother her at all and she left Skids' brain module behind. {{storylink|Chasing the Infinite}} A simulation of Skids appeared to Nautica on [[Mederi]] that tried to coax her to join him in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. Bereft of her old emotions towards him, the prospect held no appeal to Nautica and Skids' apparition disappeared. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (2): The God War|The God War}} Skids appeared among the spirits of the dead that welcomed [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] into the Afterspark. {{storylink|Ceremony}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===<br /> [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] named Skids, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] as three characters who had been produced as toys for the popular ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' line. {{storylink|The Road to Winning a New Fanbase}}<br /> <br /> ===Precursor World===<br /> Skids was a member of the [[Blue Order]] of the [[Primus Vanguard]]. He and his comrades followed their commander [[Blue Big Convoy]] into battle when a duel between [[G1 World|dimension-tossed]] future warriors [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Generations Selects Special Comic (1)|Ultra Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Star Convoy]] threatened the [[Blue Planet (GS)|Blue Planet]] and [[Beast People|its people]]. When Vanguard supreme leader [[Primus#The old universe|Primus]] deigned to personally intervene, Skids knelt in deference. {{storylink|Super Megatron comic 2}}<br /> <br /> Evidently felled in the subsequent brawl when the traitorous [[Straxus (G1)#Precursor World|Straxus twins]] unleashed a rage virus to destroy the corps from within, Skids was later memorialized with a hologram in the inner sanctum of the [[Ivory Towers]] by [[Magna Convoy]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Magna Convoy prequel comic}}<br /> <br /> ===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===<br /> Following [[King Sombra]]'s awakening on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Skids was one of the many unsuspecting Cybertronians who fell under the tyrannical [[unicorn]]'s thrall. Making his way to the desert, Skids tried to ambush [[Applejack]] but was knocked down by [[Wildwheel (G1)|Wildwheel]], mourning that he'd failed his king. {{storylink|One-Trick Pony}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===3D Battle-Card Game===<br /> Skids was one of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in a fight against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s Decepticon forces, in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Legends''===<br /> During the war on Cybertron, Skids was among a group of Autobots led by [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], who went to [[Tyrest]] in an attempt to reason with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. They were ambushed by the Decepticons, and Sentinel Prime was killed. {{storylink|The War Within}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===<br /> [[File:BattleTacticsSkids.jpg|thumb|400px]]<br /> Skids participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was an Rare character that could be recruited by collecting 130 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 45 hunter cores. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}<br /> <br /> ===''Transformers Operation Omega''===<br /> {{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers Operation Omega}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''The Transformers''===<br /> {{anchor|Generation 1}}<br /> [[File:G1 Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Introducing the new Nikahimi Deathtrap. With its poly-cotton body shell, it's the fastest car in the world... to open with the jaws of life. The Nikahimi Deathtrap—the last car you'll ever drive.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (Autobot Car, [[1984]])<br /> **''Accessories'': [[liquid nitrogen rifle]], [[Electron blaster|twin electron blaster]], rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Skids began life as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' toyline, where he was known simply by the name of his [[alternate mode]], the {{w|Honda City Turbo}}, and was available in blue, red, or black color schemes (see [[#Notes|Notes]], below). The blue version of the figure was used by [[Hasbro]] as part of the ''Transformers'' toyline, sans {{w|Honda Motocompo|a small scooter accessory}} that the ''Diaclone'' figure had come with which stored inside his trunk. Despite sharing this common point of origin with many of his fellow Autobot cars, he features a few unusual touches: his rear wheels fold into his feet for added [[robot mode]] stability, and his weapons attach by clipping over his forearms, rather than plugging into his fists. Among his armament is a &quot;rocket pod&quot;, the spring-loaded missile-firing mechanism of which was neutered for Hasbro's release of the figure.<br /> <br /> :Skids had a somewhat odd release history: Because he was not one of the original eleven [[Autobot Cars]] released at the line's inception, he is commonly grouped in with the later 1985 Autobot Cars both fictionally and in the minds of [[fandom|fans]]. However, Skids was actually added to the 1984 Autobot Cars assortment (taking the place of a second [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Mirage]] in a [[case]] of twelve) very late in the year (December 1984 is the current earliest confirmed availability of the figure), during which time he came in 1984 packaging including a ™ mark by the &quot;Transformers&quot; logo, rather than an ® mark. Like the other 1984 cars, at least some of these early Skids releases lacked the [[rubsign]] on the roof that would later be added to all Transformers toys in 1985.&lt;ref name=&quot;earlyg1&quot;&gt;[http://tfscraps.blogspot.com/2016/11/early-g1-timeline.html &quot;Early G1 Timeline&quot;] at TF Scraps.&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably due to this early release, he got the short end of the stick in 1985: That year, the &quot;Autobot Cars&quot; price point was divided into two separate assortments, each of which contained six of the figures that had debuted in 1984 (packaged one per case in a case of 12) and three of the new figures that debuted in 1985 (packaged two per case). Since Hasbro apparently considered Skids a 1984 release, he ended up being packaged only one per case, thus making him somewhat more rare than his peers.<br /> <br /> :Skids has been reissued several times; this article lists each reissue separately where appropriate. This mold itself is a [[retool]] of an earlier ''Diaclone'' toy, the Honda City R; this earlier tooling was used to make [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and the ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]'' exclusive [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-autobot-cars-skids/519/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Skids at Transformerland.com]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Skids/skids.htm More information on Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|VSZ}}{{anchor|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers}}<br /> [[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Maybe the kids will notice me now that I'm bundled together with two other guys?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Sunstreaker vs Buzzsaw''' (multi-pack, [[1985]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''VSZ'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids was not released on his own in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Japanese Generation 1 toyline]], and was instead available only in a multi-pack with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], which was also the only way to get the other two on the Japanese market at the time. This box set remains a considerable rarity on the secondary market.<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|QuantumOperativeToy}}<br /> [[File:G1toy quantum operative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You sure you can call this an homage?]]<br /> *'''Skids &amp; Screech Quantum Operative Ver.''' (exclusive multi-pack, [[2009]])<br /> **''Accessories:'' &quot;Material acceleration pistol&quot;, dual-barreled gun, &quot;quantum shield&quot; launcher, 3 rockets, scooter<br /> :&quot;Quantum Operative&quot; Skids is a green redeco of the original Generation 1 toy, available in conjunction with his [[#Encore|''Encore'' release (below)]], and including for the first time the scooter accessory from the ''Diaclone'' toy that was eliminated for his original Transformers release. He was sold in a set with [[Screech (Generations)#Toys|Screech]] that was a mail-away [[exclusive]] available only with volume 3 of [[Hero-X|Million Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers Generations 2009]]''. While Skids's colors are an homage to ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], Screech is likewise a match for Skids's twin [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].<br /> <br /> :Amusingly, the color scheme for this exclusive was accidentally revealed early by TakaraTomy when they [[:File:Encore Skids Tokyo Toy Show 2009.jpg|mistakenly included its missile launcher]], denoted by its bright green launching tab, with the normal ''Encore'' version that was on display at [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2009.&lt;ref name=&quot;internat&quot;&gt;[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/5790/20/ TakaraTomy Accidentally Gives Clue to TF Generations Vol. 3 Mail Away Figure?!]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Skids/skids.htm More information on Quantum Operative Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''The Transformers Collection''===<br /> [[File:TF Collection 3 Skids.jpg|thumb|&quot;Oh boy, a reissue! Now people are ''actually'' going to notice me!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[September 27]], [[2002]])<br /> **''ID number'': '''3'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids received his first reissue in 2002, when [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made him available as part of their &quot;book-box&quot; ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, surprising many with the inclusion of such an overlooked character so early in the line. He features no significant differences from the original (save for a working missile launcher, as with the original Japanese release), though the figure suffered from a common, if not universal, problem: an excess of plastic on the underside of Skids's right foot means that his rear wheel can not fold down flat beneath it, resulting in a slightly unstable robot mode. Since the original Japanese figure was released only in a giftset, Skids did not get a [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] at the time, a situation this reissue rectifies by retroactively giving him the ID number '''96''' on the included [[Tech Spec]] and [[bio]] card.<br /> <br /> :The aforementioned Crosscut was released exclusively through [[e-HOBBY]] in conjunction with this reissue.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue/Skids_template.html More information on Transformers Collection Skids at TF-1.com]<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Commemorative Series''===<br /> [[File:G1toy commemorative skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Whoa, two reissues! Good old Skids is moving up in life!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2004)<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :Skids got his first Hasbro reissue as part of the eighth wave of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' line, [[exclusive]] to [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]] stores. He features no notable differences from the earlier Takara ''Transformers Collection'' release, except for the fact that his launcher's spring has been removed.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===<br /> {{anchor|Alternators}}<br /> [[File:Alt Skids toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Heavily clearanced so fanboys could customize him into Ironhide.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (2005)<br /> **''Alternator ID number'': '''17'''<br /> **''Binaltech ID number'': '''BT-16'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Engine-rifle<br /> :Skids transforms into a 1:24-scale blue Scion xB. All four doors open, revealing a fully-detailed realistic interior with seats for a driver and passengers, plus his hood pops open to reveal his engine. His robot mode is very reminiscent of his original toy, with his head sculpt based off his animation model with toy details. His engine pops out and unfolds to become his hand-held pistol.<br /> <br /> :The Hasbro ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' release (part of the first wave of new &quot;bubble packaging&quot; toys) differs from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' release in that it has a much darker shade of blue, tinted windows, and various Scion-type tampographed flame decals. The Japanese release naturally has die cast metal parts, is painted a lighter shade of blue, and has different paint decos. It also includes a sheet of stickers, including flames resembling the ones printed on the ''Alternators'' version, as well as some Generation-1-style red stripes, and most humorously, a Japanese &quot;New Driver&quot; badge.<br /> <br /> :This mold was also used to make ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech Asterisk|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Binaltech Asterisk|Broadblast]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/AltSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Encore''===<br /> [[File:G1toy encore skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&quot;Three reissues?! Wow, I must be really popular by this point, r-right?&quot;]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (October 2009)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster, rocket pod launcher, 3 rockets<br /> :TakaraTomy reissued Skids again in October 2009 as part of their ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' series. This version of the figure shifted its colors a little, changing him from tomato-red and blue to cherry-red and blueish-purple, as well as noticeably lightening the translucent blue plastic used for his windows. His Autobot symbol and tail light stickers were replaced with [[tampograph]]s, while some of his other stickers were updated slightly, including his factory-applied front grill sticker. Like past reissues, this figure too suffered with an unstable robot mode, and ''both'' feet had wheels that would not fold away flat.<br /> {{G1SkidsMold}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Generations''===<br /> [[File:Generations Skids.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The theoretician the world deserves, not the one it needs right now.]]<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, 2013)<br /> **''Series / Number'': '''02 / #009'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; transforms from a contemporary-looking hatchback into a robot mode largely based on [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, most notably featuring that body's numerous integrated weapons. He also includes the [[nudge gun]] carried by Skids in said comic and a new version of the liquid nitrogen rifle from his original toy, the two of which can combine into a larger rifle. Both weapons can peg onto his hands or vehicle sides via [[5 mm post]].<br /> <br /> :There are numerous reports of the figure's hips being assembled the [[Misassembly|wrong way round]], thus affecting the car mode as well as hampering the leg articulation (and it could even result in the ball joints at the waist snapping off), this can simply be fixed by popping them out and swapping them to the right place (just as long as you are careful with the aforementioned ball joints). At least some later releases fixed this issue. Unfortunately, Skids has a great deal of difficulty standing up due to his overall poor balance, unless posed in a way that offsets the weight.<br /> <br /> :He comes packaged with the [[Little Victories|twenty-second issue]] of IDW's aforementioned ''More than Meets the Eye'' comic series, featuring a cropped version of its retailer incentive cover, which is called out as a 'Hasbro Exclusive Cover' on its front.<br /> <br /> :Skids was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Rollbar (AOE)#Toys|Rollbar]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], which was later [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Skids (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Skids]]. This mold was also [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/GenSkids/skids.htm More information on ''Generations'' Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Q-Transformers''===<br /> [[File:QTransformers Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|As a last ditch effort to be relevant, Skids tried appealing to the &quot;kawaii culture&quot; crowd. It didn't work.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[June 27]], [[2015]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''QT-21'''<br /> :''[[Q-Transformers]]'' Skids is a redeco and retool of [[Hound (G1)/toys#Q-Transformers|QT-15 Hound]], transforming into a [[super deformed]] Suzuki Hustler.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Kre-O''===<br /> {{anchor|SDCC2015}}<br /> *'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)<br /> **''Set number'' '''B5152'''<br /> **''Voted'': Most Thoughtful<br /> **''Accessories'': 2 clip-on rifles<br /> :''[[Kre-O]]'' &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a small brick-built [[Kreon]] figure, using the 2015-style construction with raised hands and the sturdier &quot;peg-in-peg&quot; torso/waist connection. His body [[tampograph]]s are heavily toy-based, with a ton of intricate design.<br /> <br /> :He was only available as part of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]]-[[exclusive]] &quot;[[Kreon Class of '85]]&quot; 30-Kreon set. This set was also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the show.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OSkids/skids.htm More information on Class of '85 Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legends''===<br /> [[File:Legendstoy-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|He might be a forgotten character but at the very least he can now be ignored by fans while sporting a relatively cool deco.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[May 28]], [[2016]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''LG-20'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' nudge gun &amp; nitrogen gun (combine to form rifle)<br /> :''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Skids is an extensive redeco of the ''Generations'' Skids toy. It features a color scheme faithful to the character's appearance in the ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' comic, with a darker shade of blue, black front grill with red details under the grill, silver and black detailing on the feet, painted front lights and pink striping on the front hood and on the back's sculpted detail.<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Masterpiece''===<br /> [[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP-53-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What was once a theoretical Masterpiece has become a reality.]]<br /> *'''Skids''' ([[November 20]], [[2021]])<br /> **''ID number:'' '''MP-53'''<br /> **''Hasbro release name:'' '''Autobot Skids'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids was announced by TakaraTomy at the beginning of 2021 with black-and-white model drawings, and later was shown in prototype form by Honda Japan's Twitter.&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810572752318473 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/1344810823181611010 Tweet by @TF_pr, 1 January 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[https://twitter.com/HondaJP/status/1364802317023924229 Tweet by @HondaJP, 25 February 2021]&lt;/ref&gt;. Like the other Masterpiece Autobot cars, Skids can fit inside Convoy's ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP10|MP-10]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44]] trailer in vehicle mode.<br /> <br /> :Designed in collaboration with {{w|Honda}} to celebrate the 40th anniversary of {{w|Honda City}}, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Skids transforms into an officially-licensed 1st generation Honda City Turbo vehicle mode, featuring opening front doors, an opening hood with engine detailing underneath, an openable rear trunk that can store some of his accessories, and a basic interior capable of fitting the Spike Witwicky figurine that came included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#MP44|MP-44 Convoy]] inside.<br /> <br /> :For accessories, Skids includes his liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, both of which can be stored in his alt mode's openable rear trunk.<br /> <br /> :This toy was retooled into [[Reboost#Masterpiece|Reboost]] and [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Crosscut]].<br /> {{charstubtoys}}<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===''Legacy''===<br /> [[File:TF-Legacy-Deluxe-Class-Skids.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hey, I've got a new toy! You guys are still on ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'', right? ...Right?]]<br /> {{anchor|Legacy}}<br /> *'''Autobot Skids''' (Deluxe Class, [[2022]])<br /> **''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL-01'''<br /> **''TakaraTomy release date'': [[July 30]], [[2022]]<br /> **''Accessories:'' [[Energon]] axe/rifle, liquid nitrogen rifle, twin electron blaster<br /> :Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Legacy (toyline)|Legacy]]'' Deluxe Class toys, &quot;Autobot Skids&quot; is a (mostly) cartoon-accurate version of the character which transforms into an approximation of a Honda City Turbo. He comes with his trademark liquid nitrogen rifle and twin electron blaster, as well as a clear-blue Energon axe that can double as a rifle.<br /> <br /> :Skids's entire back kibble/car roof assembly is made of painted translucent plastic, thus caution is recommended when transforming him. His back kibble can slide up and down to either have a clean or animation/Generation 1 toy-accurate look.<br /> <br /> :This figure was revealed by IGN as a teaser for the ''Legacy'' line on [[October 20]], 2021. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> {{comingsoontoy}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Merchandise==<br /> ===Decoy===<br /> [[File:Decoy skids.jpg|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cybertron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br /> :Skids was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5&quot; soft rubber ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the figures in the series, Skids featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. He was available in red as part of a 22-piece box set of Autobot figures, in peach as part of various other randomly-packed box sets released by Takara subsidiary [[Seven]], and in a wide variety of different colors in &quot;gachapon&quot; capsule machines.<br /> <br /> *'''Skids''' (1987)<br /> **''Decoy number:'' '''12'''<br /> :The Skids figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple &quot;checklist&quot; number. Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Skids/skids.htm More information on Decoy Skids at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> {{-}}{{anchor|3DBC}}<br /> '''3d Battle-Card Game'''<br /> [[File:EnergonWarsSkids.jpg|thumb|Are, uh, you sure you're a G1 character?]]<br /> *'''Skids''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)<br /> :A 26-point &quot;common&quot; character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s &quot;Energon Wars&quot; expansion, Skids &quot;transforms&quot; into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]].<br /> <br /> :He is equipped with a LN2 Cryo Rifle, an Electron Blaster, and a Rocket Launcher, which are similar to his G1 weapons — but due to the interdimensional nature of the Energon Wars subset, the Battle-Card may or may not also represent the [[Skids (Movie)|live-action movie Skids]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|A rainbow of theoretical flavors.]]<br /> [[File:Skidsdiacloneconceptart.jpg|thumb|Suck it, Ironhide! This head was mine first!]]<br /> *The ''[[Diaclone]]'' version of Skids was additionally available in black or red. The [[BotCon 2015]] toy and character [[Burn Out (Diaclone)|Burn Out]], a non-Cybertronian ''Diaclone'' mecha, is based on the black version.<br /> *Skids's animation model head appears to be based on early ''Diaclone'' promotional concept art. The toy's head would be different... and ultimately different from the [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] head shown in his instructions, which also popped up a few times in the UK comics. Much like [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]'s [[character model]], Skids is hilariously drawn with his shoulders sitting about midway from his torso, likely due to the toy pictures the animators were working from. However, unlike Huffer, Skids's toy can actually have his arms repositioned to where they should be.<br /> *Though Skids's toy turned into a Honda City Turbo, his car mode was often misinterpreted in Transformers fiction as one of the then-new minivans, despite the fact that a Honda City Turbo is a subcompact car, which could theoretically be stowed in the back seat of an actual minivan. This is likely because most Americans in 1985 would have not known what a subcompact car was.<br /> *As Skids was released in the interim between the original 1984 launch and the big push of new 1985 figures, the character consequently fell by the wayside in the Generation 1 fiction of the 1980s. He was not included in the commercial promoting the new 1985 range of Autobot Cars, as he wasn't technically part of it. Similarly, he was also left out of the list of new 1985 product in the Generation 1 cartoon's [[production bible]] intended for inclusion in the show's second season, and as such, only managed to appear in little more than cameo roles in just two episodes, speaking one line in each and voiced by a different actor each time. He fared a little better in the Marvel comics, debuting alongside (an incomplete roster of) the other 1985 cars, but after getting an issue dedicated to himself, he all but completely vanished from the book and was banished to [[limbo]] by the UK comic for upwards of 100 issues, abandoned and forgotten.<br /> *In &quot;[[Survivors!]]&quot;, Skids is drawn with the original ''Diaclone'' toy's head (which years later would be used for the new character [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]). &quot;Survivors!&quot;' artist, [[Dan Reed]], previously drew him with his real head, so it'd be interesting to learn why and how this change happened.<br /> *His [[holomatter]] avatar in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|''More than Meets the Eye'' #13]] is based on {{w|Matt Smith (actor)|Matt Smith}} as the {{w|Eleventh Doctor|Eleventh}} [[Doctor]] from ''[[Doctor Who]]'' while in [[The One Where They Go to Earth|''More than Meets the Eye'' #43]] it is based on {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the {{w|Ninth Doctor|Ninth}} Doctor.<br /> <br /> ===Foreign names===<br /> *''Japanese:'' '''Skids''' (スキッズ ''Sukizzu'')<br /> *''French:'' '''Platon''' (&quot;Plato&quot;)<br /> *''Hungarian:'' '''Szán'''<br /> *''Italian:'' '''Furetto''' (&quot;Ferret&quot;)<br /> *''Mandarin:'' '''Shāchē''' (China, 刹车, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> *''Portuguese:'' '''Patins''' (Brazil comic, &quot;Roller Skates&quot;), '''Pé-de-cabra''' (Portugal comic, &quot;Crowbar&quot;)<br /> *''Russian:'' '''Tormoz''' (Тормоз, &quot;Brake&quot;)<br /> <br /> [[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Scientists]]<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[Category:3D Battle-Cards]]<br /> [[Category:Alternators Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Blue Order]]<br /> [[Category:Council members]]<br /> [[Category:Decoys]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Henkei! 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