Talk:The Transformers: All Hail Megatron

2010-06-23T19:16:30Z

Zormo:

== Bludgeon ==
On the AHM #15 thread on the IDW boards, Denton stated that Last Stand of the Wreckers will delve into what went down on Garrus-9 and why Bludgeon is present in Coda. Could someone update the article to represent that?

== Evolutions? ==

Since this is yet another "Elseworld" for Transformers, is this series considered under the Evolutions umbrella?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 00:22, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::Not an AU. It's part of the main timeline. Basically, Autobots buggered off,and the cons have the run of the place. Far as I know, only bots on Earth are the Dinos, Hot Rod and Sunstreaker
:::Takes place a year later. In reality it WAS written as an Elseworld-style alternate universe storyline, but was vaugley reworked to fit into the current storyline. Judging by the interview with the writer, the decision seemed to be made soley for the purposes of marketing - IDW were evidently worried about turning off new readers with the serialised nature of Furman's storyline, so they essentially put that on the backburner and started a new storyline, that's why the writer remarked that you can just jump into the storyline without prior knowledge of the previous books because, hey, they weren't written with them in mind anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

==Oh fark==
What the heck happened? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:32, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

:What's up with the copy protection on this page? Do you have to be an admin or something to edit it now? [[User:Rod-E-Mace|Rod-E-Mace]] 19:50, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
:: It got hit by some angry fans a few days back, so unregistered users are restricted from editing it. It also restricts editing from very new editors. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:58, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

==Ironhide==

I don't think the listed "glitches" with Ironhide from AHM #13 ''are'' glitches.
*(1) Ironhide willing to die for Prime when they met, AHM #4, versus an initially antagonist relationship, AHM #13. There's no contradiction here. Ironhide's a good soldier, willing to die for a commanding officer, even if he doesn't agree with him. That flows perfectly with his character. His line from AHM #4, "I would have died for him, Jazz, even back then.", suggests this. One way of reading it, of course, is they had a bromance from the beginning. But another way is that Ironhide would've died for him even when they were butting heads. It shouldn't be called a glitch or an error just because there's one way to interpret it that makes things contradict.
*(2) There's no indication Optimus and Ironhide actually knew each other in Spotlight: Blurr. Ironhide vanished before Optimus appeared on panel. There was no interaction between them at all. All soldiers don't know each other personally, even if they happen to be at the same battle. When Optimus and Blurr converse over the dead Autobot, Piston, Optimus mentions having "met him once...briefly." This indicates they were not in the same "platoon" or close group and, by extension, all Autobots present at that battle were not in the same close group. Spotlight: Blurr only shows Ironhide and Optimus crossed paths briefly before the AHM #13 flashback -- the show ''Lost'' has mega-history of similar "crossed paths" that aren't actual meetings.
*(3) AHM #8 says ''nothing'' about Ironhide being ignored by other Autobots. It said he passed up promotions to stay in the thick of things. That in no way contradicts the idea that Optimus Prime listens to him. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:13, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:I agree with Xaaron. Trying to make up more inconsistencies just makes the page look more petty than it has to be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:44, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
::Well at least ''now'' he's arguing beyond "they weren't in the exact same panel in Spotlight Blurr so they couldn't have known each other" as grounds to remove the whole thing. But yeah, his additional arguments make sense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
:::Sue me. It's hard to make a complete argument on an editing blurb. :-) --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:58, 14 March 2010 (EDT)

== Ironhide, Optimus and Spotlight Blurr ==

So Xaaron is saying that Prime and Ironhide weren't even together in Spotlight: Blurr.

While it's true they weren't present on the same panel, they were part of the same squad and indeed in the exact same place, at the same time, together, so saying they weren't together at that time is like saying Kyle Reese and the Terminator weren't actually fighting each other in the bar because Michael Biehn and Arnold Schwarzenegger weren't together on-screen in any shots of the bar scene.

Let's look at how it goes down: Ironhide takes Blurr to cover. In the same building are two corpses. As Ironhide stays next to Blurr, there are two corpses next to them, who happen to be Piston and Fasttrack. In fact, Prime's voice is heard just as Blurr looks at Piston's corpse, which is one whole panel after Ironhide was next to Blurr. And then Blurr and Prime begin discussing. I'm sorry, but saying that Prime and Ironhide didn't know each other because they didn't share a panel is bullcrap. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:14, 14 March 2010 (EDT)

: That doesn't mean they didn't actually ''know'' each other. There are people in my department at work that I know by reputation, but wouldn't know face-to-face, and there are people I've seen around, but don't actually know anything about. Especially in what appears to be the haphazard early days of the war, it's entirely feasible two guys from two different units who've never really met could be fighting in the same area without really being aware of each other beyond "that guy over there." [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:26, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

== Coda ==

* The way Sunstreaker was treated in AHM #14 isn't any different from how Circuit Breaker treated "the machines" back in the old Marvel Comics. The Machination are just being cold and callous towards a lifeform too different from themselves for them to feel any empathy towards "it". They aren't denying Sunstreaker is alive at any point in the dialogue...they just don't care. As for the "It spoke!" scene, the Machination agent is likely just surprised Sunstreaker can speak in his current condition, not that he can speak at all.

* In AHM #16, ''The Man of Steel'' takes place over a year after AHM #12. Spike's men were depicted operating with "ray guns" as Manhattan was nearly rebuilt. ''Hidden'', on the other hand, seems to take place very soon after AHM #12, with people still in hiding and the fires of devastation still burning. The absence of ray guns is because the Shockwave Weapon hasn't been mass-produced yet. The two stories take place at two different points in the timeline, which explains any apparent "discrepancies". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 17:53, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

==One year?==
Forgive me if this is the wrong place to bring it up. [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=178791#178791/ According to Andy Shmoot,] AHM took place over the course of over a year. That seems like a lot of time for the Decepticons to basically vandalize the United States and (maybe, depending on the issue,) some of China and the Middle East. It seems hard to swallow that they would have spent so much time on Earth and left Europe untouched, Megatron's plans aside. And this raises even more questions concerning the Autobots' ark. Does this seem worth adding to the notes? {{unsigned|JazZeke}}
:Sounds notable to bring up, and it definitely didn't seem like a year, but I wouldn't put it in the errors section. After all, it certainly explains why Starscream was so keen to lead a rebellion- a year is a long time to sit around doing nothing. It also allows plenty of time for the Decepticons not seen during the main series that we know were there (Stunticons, Axer, Swindle, etc.) to have shown up. IMO, it makes stuff make more sense (the Europe thing IS a bit odd, though).[[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 19:58, 20 April 2010 (EDT)

== Reprints ==

The second printing of volume 2 just came out, and since the Amazon price of volume 1 just went way down, I'm assuming its second printing just came out as well. Any plans to reprint Coda anytime soon? --[[User:Zormo|Zormo]] 15:16, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Energon (comic)

2010-06-14T23:18:55Z

Zormo:

Finally we have pages for every issue. Thanks for the help Zodberg. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 08:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The part about the IDW TPB says that it collects issues 19-23. Five issues is odd for a GN, is it not through 24? --[[User:Zormo|Zormo]] 19:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

== "Issues" Template? ==

I converted some of the html back to templates, but I didn't know if the list of issues was a template as well, and if so, what template it was. Anyone know? --[[User:Loudstone|Loudstone]] 03:36, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, so I found this from some other pages and copied it here. Let me know if it's wrong. Also, my browser went crazy and decided that when I hit enter for a line break it would submit (even the the text field had focus), so I apologize for the many changes in the history log :S --[[User:Loudstone|Loudstone]] 05:16, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Energon (comic)

2010-06-14T23:18:27Z

Zormo:

Finally we have pages for every issue. Thanks for the help Zodberg. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 08:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

== "Issues" Template? ==

I converted some of the html back to templates, but I didn't know if the list of issues was a template as well, and if so, what template it was. Anyone know? --[[User:Loudstone|Loudstone]] 03:36, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, so I found this from some other pages and copied it here. Let me know if it's wrong. Also, my browser went crazy and decided that when I hit enter for a line break it would submit (even the the text field had focus), so I apologize for the many changes in the history log :S --[[User:Loudstone|Loudstone]] 05:16, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

The part about the IDW TPB says that it collects issues 19-23. Five issues is odd for a GN, is it not through 24? --[[User:Zormo|Zormo]] 19:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:The Transformers (IDW)

2010-06-11T01:58:08Z

Zormo:

I'm confused. IDW's [http://idwpublishing.com/catalog/book/883 promo blurb online] says the war ended three years ago. In the issue, Hot Rod says it's been two years. Which is correct, book or promo?--[[User:SuzyP|SuzyP]] 19:16, 25 November 2009 (EST)
: Book. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:41, 25 November 2009 (EST)

On the subject of new paragraphs, I think it should be a new one for every new story arc. Those new paragraphs for every issue will get a bit broken in this instance. [[User:Warpspeed Hellscream|Screamer]] 01:18, 2 March 2010 (EST)

What's going on with the TPB? [https://shop.idwpublishing.com/transformers-volume-1-for-all-mankind.html IDW] says it's available, but [http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-1-Mankind-Mike-Costa/dp/1600106846/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276220875&sr=8-1 Amazon] and [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Transformers/Don-Figueroa/e/9781600106842/?itm=1&USRI=transformers+for+all+mankind Barnes & Noble] both have different release dates. --[[User:Zormo|Zormo]] 21:58, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
: I bought it from my local comic book shop yesterday. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:56, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:The Transformers (IDW)

2010-06-11T01:54:07Z

Zormo:

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