Editing Talk:Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)

==Trailer==

New Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv6fVuvcHis --[[User:BatboyEXE|BatboyEXE]] 08:44 pm, 2 February 2014

Does [http://jalopnik.com/did-transformers-4-rip-off-this-guys-design-for-the-ne-510655228 this] belong here? Should I keep it for later?

Basically, allegations that Bumblebee's new (officially confirmed) alternate mode is directly based on some random guy's customized Camaro.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 06:31, 14 June 2013 (EDT)

It's called Transformers: Age of Extinction.  - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 11:03, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
:That's not going onto the article 'til an official press release actually announces it. As of right now, it isn't officially confirmed. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 11:10, 2 September 2013 (EDT)

== Dinobots ==

Given that they've been officially confirmed, I would imagine they would be given a mention somewhere on this page. Not saying we should go so far as to add Grimlock to the featured characters, but I would have thought they'd have some sort of mention here or there.

== New Characters ==

I read online that Autobots "Crosshairs", and "Drift" will be joining the cast, along with Decepticon "Cyclonus". I also read that Dino/Mirage and Sideswipe will not be returning. Should we include this? {{unsigned|Deceptibot‎}}
:Is it from an official source, or is it from a leak? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:01, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well, it came from Wikipedia, I just wanted to know if we should consider it.
::Looking at the Wikipedia article and its sources, these seem to be the usual mix of rumors and leaked production names (which are often chosen for purposes of misdirection). Don't think we need to bother with them. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:37, 7 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well,it also came from a leaked callsheet.Bay tried making a fake callsheet for ROTF but it failed because all that was in that callsheet appeared in the movie.Bay wouldn't try to do that again so it's basically confirmed that the names for the Corvette C7 and the Bugatti are Drift and Crosshairs.Also in that callsheet it said something about a spaceship crashing and "Cyclonus".Should we include this?P.S.I'm new to the wiki{{unsigned|Bumblebee Prime}} 14:17, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's a very interesting definition of 'basically confirmed' you're using. If it hasn't been ''offically'' confirmed, by Michael Bay and/or a ''reputable'' news source, it ain't going on the article. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:39, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
::That's the same reasoning cardsharps rely on. "Oh, he really was bluffing those first four hands when I won a little bit of money, so he must be bluffing now when I am all in." In other words, leaked callsheets are not "confirmation" of anything.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:37, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
I've also seen pictures of Ratchet and Leadfoot prop vehicles on the set of TF4, should we note this?--[[User:Deceptibot|Deceptibot]] 14:41, 6 October 2013 (EDT)

we should more characters to the list, even Wkipedia has a complete list: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_Age_of_Extinction - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:21, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:No, these haven't been confirmeds, so we aren't adding them. This page seems like it needs to be locked soon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:23, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::I may have to start using Wikipedia for my Transformers info if Tfwiki refuses to keep up to date. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 14:25, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Well, we refuse to use rumors. Hell, half the time, information on Wikipedia on Transformers isn't even complete or factually right. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 14:28, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::This isn't TFWiki "refusing to keep up to date". This is TFWiki not reporting on hearsay and unconfirmed rumors (which is 90% of the "up-to-date" crap Wikipedia's got listed). We have [[Help:Official info|guidelines]] for official information regarding upcoming product and media. I suggest you familiarize yourself with them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:56, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::How many different names did Blackout go through in the first film, again? How many ''DOTM'' character sheets use non-final names, again? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:07, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Tfwiki should create a news page like TFW2005, to put news, leaks and unconfirmed info on, that way we could still have it, but it wouldn't mess up the article. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:11, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::Dear god, NO. We aren't a new site. We are a wiki. We don't do that crap. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:14, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
:::::Or, here's an idea, you use TFW2005 to get all your breaking scoops regarding leaks, rather than ask for TFWiki to emulate TFW2005. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:28, 18 October 2013 (EDT)
::::::It was just a suggestion, I will definitely continue using TFW. But how come everytime I make a change, on any article, it's always Detour, Escargon or Jaylaguy that answers, do you guys own this wiki, or something?
:::::::No, we're just regular contributors. ItsWalky is the top guy around here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:35, 18 October 2013 (EDT)

Over the course of the last three movies, a blatant pattern has emerged. "Information" leaks, people jump all over it, it does not happen. The mad scramble for the latest pitiable scraps just means a lot of work cleaning it up later when it doesn't happen, meaning a lot of work that is ultimately unnecessary. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:23, 18 October 2013 (EDT)

Guys,these names appeared in the Hasbro Toy List and it seems legit:Crosshairs,Drift,Slog,Slug and Galvatron.I might have missed a few other names but no sight of Cyclonus. --[[User:Bumblebee Prime]] 19:36, 12 November 2013 (EDT)
:A list we were never meant to see and may not be final names, judging by a lot of things on it. So NO. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:36, 12 November 2013 (EST)

Shouldn't Grimlock be on the list? - [[User:Silverboltmtmte|Silverboltmtmte]] ([[User talk:Silverboltmtmte|talk]]) 15:48, 14 December 2013 (EST)
*No, until the character had officialy been confirmed to be in the film by Bay, Paramount and Hasbro. so far the confirmation of Grimlock appearance have not been officialy from Hasbro, Paramount and Bay, just leaks.

== Main cast names officialy revealed ==
the empire magazine officialy confirmed the names of the main characters

Mark Walhberg is Cade Yeager
Nicola Peltz is Tessa Yeager
Jack Reynor is Shane

its no longer unofficial info, now that its been officialy confirmed. dont you think we should edit the cast and chaacters section {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Yes, I think that's official enough! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:34, 28 November 2013 (EST)

== Lockdown confirmed? ==
according to UK Toy Fair 2014, the Lambo is officialy lockdown, http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys-products-30/first-look-at-transformers-4-age-of-extinction-track-set-aventador-character-name-revealed-179111/ {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Do we use toyline stuff as references? I mean, it's not unheard of for a character's name in the toyline to be different to their name in the movie. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:24, 21 January 2014 (EST)
::Of course it's not unheard. But it doesn't happen very often. Scalpel, Mirage and Wheeljack were only character who had different names in films. The name change doesn't happen to ALL characters. But now that I think about, keeping names out from here actually keeps majority of the spoilers unrevealed. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] ([[User talk:CAJH|talk]]) 12:21, 3 February 2014 (EET)
:::I don't think people should expect to not be spoiled when they look at a wiki article for a movie. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:49, 3 February 2014 (EST)

== Lots of names confirmed by Toy Fair... ==

So Toy Fair is on, and Hasbro is showing off lots of stuff.
Shouldn't the now-confirmed names be added to the cast list? Like Lockdown, Slug, Scorn, Strafe, Crosshairs, Drift, etc.? --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] ([[User talk:Diamondmatter|talk]]) 09:00, 16 February 2014 (EST)
:But just because we know the toy names doesn't mean we know the film names. For DOTM Mirage and Wheeljack toys were actually called Dino and Que in the film proper. Until we know for certain which names will be carried across into the film those don't belong here but in the AoE merchandise section. [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] ([[User talk:Mister Jazzz|talk]]) 11:05, 16 February 2014 (EST)
::IMHO we should at least add the characters who are in the trailer. If their names are different in the movie, we can change them here when we get confirmation. Their articles will end up at the [[Mirage (Movie)|toy]] [[Wheeljack (Movie)|name]] anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:37, 16 February 2014 (EST)
:::You mean like crosshairs and lockdown and stuff, right? [[User:CheeseMan|CheeseMan]] ([[User talk:CheeseMan|talk]]) 18:34, 16 February 2014 (EST)
::::Yes, Lockdown, Crosshairs, Strafe and Galvatron are all in the trailer and we have confirmed toys for 'em. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:11, 16 February 2014 (EST)
::But the name changes only happened once and their names were changed to match past characters. I could possibly see this being the case for some of the Dinobots, or maybe Galvatron, but definitely not characters like Lockdown, Drift or Crosshairs. --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] ([[User talk:Diamondmatter|talk]]) 18:36, 16 February 2014 (EST)
:::About Lockdown, there already is an article [[Lockdown (ROTF)]]. Other characters had also articles combined with non-canon versions from previous sets. Except for Mudflap (whose both versions were from separate factions). --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] ([[User talk:CAJH|talk]]) 22:29, 17 February 2014 (EET)
:::By the way, even though it's not fully confirmed if Slug appears in film, he is indeed confirmed in toyline. So I created a disambiguation article about him. And I moved [[Slug]] into [[Slug (FOC)]] and edited the redirection of the original article to the disambiguation article. Even though article [[Slug (AOE)]] is not created yet, it will come. But I hope I didn't do this all too rashly. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] ([[User talk:CAJH|talk]]) 19:59, 18 February 2014 (EET)
::::I think there's usually only a disambiguation page when there are '''three''' characters with the same name... --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 14:04, 18 February 2014 (EST)
:::::There's a Construct-Bots Slug too. Unless we're counting the AOE Construct-Bots as the movieverse characters. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:03, 18 February 2014 (EST)
::::::We absolutely should count the AOE-branded Construct-Bots as the movieverse characters. I know the ambiguities of the previous Construct-Bots led to the characters getting their own pages, but when their packaging carries the AOE logo on it I think it's safe to put those toys on the movie's characters' pages. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:45, 18 February 2014 (EST)
:::::::Good point. Another option (especially now IDW Slag is called Slug) is to just combine the two disambiguation pages and put all the Slugs on [[Slag (disambiguation)]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:15, 18 February 2014 (EST)

:::::::: By the way I saw a picture from TunaKaan showing the unofficial fate of the autobots is this true saying that Sideswipe and Dino would get slain and Ratchet and Topspin are aprehended"?