Editing User talk:Beetle Bug (section)

== Website help. This is for people to teach me how to use the site, since I am misunderstanding some of the rules and code of conduct. ==

Question 1: What kinds of questions are ok to ask on here, and how do I know if my question is that kind of question? For example, is it ok to ask about functions of a toy with the purpose of posting the info about it on the toy's page/section? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 18:59, 9 August 2021 (EDT)
:Hi, the idea of contributing to the wiki is to provide information on areas you know about or can research yourself. If you are asking these sorts of questions instead, you're asking for someone else to do the work in providing information. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:36, 9 August 2021 (EDT)
:: Well, then how would I even research the info, when most places I check send me back here to find the info that is not even here? That's where I'm getting stuck on. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 03:15, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::The original source. If you're looking to add information which is not currently on the wiki, you need to research it by watching the cartoon, or movie, or reading the comic, or in this case, looking at an example of the toy in question. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:47, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::: Ok. Well, then what if I can't find an example of the toy in question? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 05:07, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::Then you can't add the information to the wiki? You can't add info you don't have. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 06:06, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::: Ah. I was asking because sometimes two heads are better than one, so my line of thinking was this: "If I can't find it, ask around on the wiki to see if someone else might have the info.", but I'm guessing from what you are telling me, that's not correct. If I am wrong, please just let me know, otherwise, I'm gonna assume that I'm right in saying that you are telling me that my line of thinking is wrong. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 06:09, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::::The problem here is that most of your questions could easily be answered if you watched a review on YouTube or looked at photos of the toy by Googling or looking at the numerous toy galleries that are readily available on websites such as [https://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/galleries/ Seibertron.com,] [https://reflector.tfw2005.com/ TFW2005,] and [http://www.transformers-universe.com/include.php?path=galerie/Bildergalerie.php Transformers-Universe.] [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:24, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::::: Well, I have checked [https://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/galleries/ Seibertron.com], but some of the stuff I'm looking for is not on there. I've only found use for it in this regard one time, and that was with [[Buzzsaw (Cybertron)]] and the fact of exactly what weapons he had and where. Other than that, none whatsoever. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 17:46, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 2: What do I do if I notice that an external link is obsolete? Is there a template to point that out? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 05:15, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:Generally, we go looking for a Wayback Machine link to replace it, so long as Wayback Machine was able to preserve any of the information that the link was originally there for, otherwise the link gets nuked. However, if you don't know what information the link is referring to, it's best to leave it for someone else to clean up. Simply put: stick to what you know you can help with and the leave what you don't know to someone else, someone will get to it eventually, there is no rush for things to be finished. As I have stated before, the wiki is a voluntary effort.
:However, I'm going to be brutally honest here because I'm starting to notice a pattern occurring. The whole point on joining a wiki is to help fill in gaps and build a more solid structure around the things that you are familiar with. If you have to keep asking other people questions about things that you are not familiar with, you'd be better off leaving it because it is becoming counterproductive. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:24, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:: Was that first part by you too? I ask as whoever posted it, didn't sign it. Also, what do you mean by "nuked"? By the way, this is the very first wiki that I have signed up for, so to speak, and more than likely the only one that I will, so my question is this, when you (the person that said this thing) say "asking other people questions about things that you are not familiar with", what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about how this wiki works in general, or like the sources and general info of articles? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 17:52, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::Yes, they were both me. Asking for directions on coding or correct places to put information is fine. Asking others for information that you don't know about is not, otherwise it becomes a chatroom, which is not what we are here for. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:59, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:::: Ah, ok. I honestly didn't realize that stuff, especially the chatroom stuff. I'm sorry about that. No wonder people were getting upset and/or mad at me. Thanks for helping to explain that and clarify it. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 00:05, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 3: What do I do if I notice that a link to a certain section of the wiki sends you to the wrong area and can't figure out the right link format to fix it? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 07:05, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:If you don't know the right formatting to fix it, you can just point it out on the article's Talk page and someone else can correct it. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:21, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
:: Ok, thanks. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 17:52, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 4: What do I do I find that a toy list thing (as I have no clue what to call it) is missing a toy (I'm meaning this type of toy list thing: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hot_Rod_(G1)/toys , but not this one as in the since of "the question is due to the issue in question occuring on this page", but rather just as an example of the type of page), but I have some info for it, like at bare minimum, just the fact it exists? Like how do I go about placing it in the right place, like in regards to proper release date order? Also, what if it is posted elsewhere in the wiki on another toy's page, but not as a mess up, but rather as due to the fact it's in a multi-pack of sorts, could I just copy and paste the info that is identical for it and the other toys in the pack, and then hope that someone else knows the remaining info and can input it in? Mind you, this is mainly for like two packs, but not ''only'' them. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 06:01, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 5: I'm just curious, why is it on Unicron in toylines it shows the Decepticon insignia, but elsewhere he's given his own insignia? Is that due to an error, or just due to the toyline labeling him as such? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 20:04, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 6: How do I do that whole "state the reason for the change" thing that I've been seeing people do sometimes when they change stuff? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 08:09, 14 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 7: If I notice that something seems out of place, like in the sense of "this should not be grouped with this thing" or "this should be grouped with this thing", and kinda like the whole "these things should be two separate pages" or "these things should be on one single page", how do I go about that? Do I fix it myself, or do that "voting" thing that I see on here from time to time, and if so, how do I do that? I ask as I don't know which template to use. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 09:09, 15 August 2021 (EDT)
:: The reason for this right off hand is [[Primus#Cybertron|Primus toys in G1 and Cybertron]]. Like why is the first Cybertron toy listed under G1 rather than Cybertron, given it's packaging says "Cybertron" on it? Is it officially called G1 somewhere, is it one of those "this toy doubles as this character" things, or is it an error? I don't know. Nor even where to look. Let alone where to start looking. I mean I get the "gold Rodimus Prime" "lucky draw" toy, but not that. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 09:17, 15 August 2021 (EDT)
:::The Japanese release in 2006 was in G1 style packaging. The Cybertron release is right below it in a Cybertron section.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:37, 15 August 2021 (EDT) 
:::: Oh. I didn't know about the G1 style packaging part. I did know about the other part, but I thought it was a duplicate thing, not a whole separate product. Well, thanks nontheless. That really helps. However, even so, do you what to do about the "Question 7" above? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 02:47, 16 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 8: What do I do if someone changes my edits without stating why? [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 18:14, 18 August 2021 (EDT)

Question 9: Could someone explain the confusion in my to-do list number 9? I'd like to know how the format of foreign names works. Like what's the source? Why are there sometimes many names under the same Transformers under the same language? Like why are there sometimes several Japanese names for the same Transformer/group/thing/things? Also, why are there sometimes like five languages of foreign names on somethings, but like only two on others, and still others have it in like every language? Like what's up with that? Is it an error, or an official thing? Both as I'd like to add to it, and for personal reasons. [[User:Beetle Bug|Beetle Bug]] ([[User talk:Beetle Bug|talk]]) 20:45, 20 August 2021 (EDT)