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The Wadapan: /* Weaknesses */

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	Another weakness that became more apparent with the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.

			With the introduction of the [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]] in ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege]]'', Hasbro largely abandoned ball joints to ensure the figures could bear the weight of all the extra crap fans would be piling on there. However, they quickly found that this resulted in a marked improvement to sturdiness, longevity, and ease of transformation, leading them to adopt the new kind of figure construction in the long-term.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=So all of the joint reconstruction that happened during the WFC Trilogy was very meaningfully done in the beginning to support the weight of the Weaponizers and Fossilizers and all of those different Transformers that break up into smaller pieces to clad onto your figure. And the reason for that is to support the extra weight. What ended up happening when we added those points of articulation in is we found it created a much sturdier Transformer that was more fun to transform, easier to play with, and was able to hold poses for a longer amount of time. I think a lot of it comes down to scale and cost, and it’s also what type of Transformer and how it transforms. So some of those decisions definitely come from the designers like Mark and the geniuses at Takara and what they suggest.\|link=https://news.tfw2005.com/2024/08/03/sdcc-2024-hasbro-interview-john-wardens-return-generations-studio-series-combiners-more-513802\|name=John Warden\|site=TFW2005\|title=SDCC 2024 Hasbro Interview – John Warden’s Return, Generations, Studio Series, Combiners, More!\|year=2024\|month=08\|day=03}}</ref>
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Randomus: /* Use in toys */ grammar

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	[[Image:BW-toy Quickstrike.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Multiple ball-joints make for very bendy bits, like [[Quickstrike (BW)\|Quickstrike]]'s cobra-parts here. (Also, knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, and neck once again.)]]		[[Image:BW-toy Quickstrike.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Multiple ball-joints make for very bendy bits, like [[Quickstrike (BW)\|Quickstrike]]'s cobra-parts here. (Also, knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, and neck once again.)]]

	Ball joints can be made of many materials, but it was the use of strong yet tough plastics that allowed their economical application to toys: the ball and socket can each be cast in one piece, then snapped together. Early examples of ball-jointed limbs include [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys\|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Combat Deck (G1)\|combat deck Auto Launcher]], [[Astrotrain (G1)#Toys\|Astrotrain]], [[Whirl (G1)#Toys\|Whirl]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)#Deluxe\|Deluxe Insecticon]]s. Late ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' started introducing more and more toys that made use of the joint style, and by the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)\|Beast Wars]]'' era it was a rare for a toy not to have at least one ball joint.		Ball joints can be made of many materials, but it was the use of strong yet tough plastics that allowed their economical application to toys: the ball and socket can each be cast in one piece, then snapped together. Early examples of ball-jointed limbs include [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys\|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Combat Deck (G1)\|combat deck Auto Launcher]], [[Astrotrain (G1)#Toys\|Astrotrain]], [[Whirl (G1)#Toys\|Whirl]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)#Deluxe\|Deluxe Insecticon]]s. Late ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' started introducing more and more toys that made use of the joint style, and by the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)\|Beast Wars]]'' era it was rare for a toy not to have at least one ball joint.

	Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>		Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>

FigureGunplaFan: /* Weaknesses */ After many years, I just realized this...

2021-11-17T10:52:50Z

Weaknesses: After many years, I just realized this...

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	Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases, more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.		Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases, more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.

	Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.		Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket (especially the small thin tabs that holds the ball joint together).

	Another weakness that became more apparent with the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.

TitaniumToughGuy: /* Weaknesses */

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	Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.		Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.

	Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.
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Fanofcoolstuff27 at 05:10, 15 April 2021

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	==Use in toys==		==Use in toys==
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	During the mid-late 2010s, load-bearing ball joints on Deluxe and larger figures became increasingly uncommon for reasons such as...		During the mid-late 2010s, load-bearing ball joints on Deluxe and larger figures became increasingly uncommon for reasons such as...
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	Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.
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	==Fiction==		==Fiction==
	[[Image:Tellus rotorbolt.jpg\|thumb\|center\|350px\|Sometimes ball joints become loose on older specimens.]]		[[Image:Tellus rotorbolt.jpg\|thumb\|center\|350px\|Sometimes ball joints become loose on older specimens.]]
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	==~~Footnotes~~==		==References==
	~~<references/>~~		{{Reflist}}

	==See also==		==See also==
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	* [[Slide joint]]		* [[Slide joint]]
	* [[Swivel joint]]		* [[Swivel joint]]


	[[Category:Joint types]]		[[Category:Joint types]]

BattleBlade: /* Use in toys */

2020-07-29T14:17:35Z

Use in toys

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	Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled.		Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled.

			During the mid-late 2010s, load-bearing ball joints on Deluxe and larger figures became increasingly uncommon for reasons such as...

	==Weaknesses==		==Weaknesses==

Kitsune1: /* Weaknesses */

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	==Weaknesses==		==Weaknesses==
	Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.		Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases, more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.

	Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.		Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.

	Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.

FigureGunplaFan: /* Weaknesses */

2020-02-02T16:14:36Z

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	Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.		Ball joints are cheap and flexible, but they are completely dependent on friction. Since friction depends on the force squeezing two parts together, and this force may not be increased arbitrarily without making the joints impossible to assemble, ball joints are hard to make with enough friction to support the heavy parts of a large toy. In these cases more elaborate mechanisms such as [[Ratchet (mechanism)\|ratchets]] must be used.

	Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue, or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.		Furthermore, if a ball joint wears or stretches even a little, it quickly becomes loose, and some plastics simply aren't tough enough to make a firm joint even when new. [[Knockoff\|Knockoffs]] frequently have loose ball joints. Joints loosened in this way can sometimes be "repaired" by applying a thin layer of epoxy, glue (usually cyanoacrylate), or clear nail polish to the ball and/or socket.

	Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.		Another weakness that became more apparent with the [[Power Core Combiners]] series is that less flexible plastics molded into small parts such as the shoulder and hip joints of the Commander figures have a tendency to eventually break simply from the pressure of the ball pushing against the inside of the socket, especially if there are raised friction points inside the joint. The most common points of breakage in these cases are around the rectangular holes cut into the pieces to provide better malleability to the joint. As such, many of the mold designs used for the series simply crumble apart after a period of time.

Foffy the Sheep: Undo revision 1299299 by DDog (talk) this is off-topic and doesn't really belong on the ball joint page

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Undo revision 1299299 by DDog (talk) this is off-topic and doesn't really belong on the ball joint page

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	Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>		Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>

	Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled~~. Though due to this it has led to the creation of monstrosities like [[:File:FrankenjackSwap.jpg\|this]]~~.		Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled.

	==Weaknesses==		==Weaknesses==

DDog: /* Use in toys */

2018-11-04T15:33:01Z

Use in toys

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	Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>		Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>

	Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled.		Ball joints are extremely handy in [[customizing]], as they allow for a toy to be easily disassembled and reassembled. Though due to this it has led to the creation of monstrosities like [[:File:FrankenjackSwap.jpg\|this]].

	==Weaknesses==		==Weaknesses==

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	[[Image:BW-toy Quickstrike.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Multiple ball-joints make for very bendy bits, like [[Quickstrike (BW)\|Quickstrike]]'s cobra-parts here. (Also, knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, and neck once again.)]]		[[Image:BW-toy Quickstrike.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Multiple ball-joints make for very bendy bits, like [[Quickstrike (BW)\|Quickstrike]]'s cobra-parts here. (Also, knees, hips, elbow, shoulders, and neck once again.)]]

	Ball joints can be made of many materials, but it was the use of strong yet tough plastics that allowed their economical application to toys: the ball and socket can each be cast in one piece, then snapped together. Early examples of ball-jointed limbs include [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys\|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Combat Deck (G1)\|combat deck Auto Launcher]], [[Astrotrain (G1)#Toys\|Astrotrain]], [[Whirl (G1)#Toys\|Whirl]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)#Deluxe\|Deluxe Insecticon]]s. Late ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' started introducing more and more toys that made use of the joint style, and by the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)\|Beast Wars]]'' era it was a rare for a toy not to have at least one ball joint.		Ball joints can be made of many materials, but it was the use of strong yet tough plastics that allowed their economical application to toys: the ball and socket can each be cast in one piece, then snapped together. Early examples of ball-jointed limbs include [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys\|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Combat Deck (G1)\|combat deck Auto Launcher]], [[Astrotrain (G1)#Toys\|Astrotrain]], [[Whirl (G1)#Toys\|Whirl]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)#Deluxe\|Deluxe Insecticon]]s. Late ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' started introducing more and more toys that made use of the joint style, and by the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)\|Beast Wars]]'' era it was rare for a toy not to have at least one ball joint.

	Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>		Takara designer [[Takio Ejima]] is credited for introducing ball joints as a standard feature of nearly all ''Transformers'' toys, as he had realized that they not only improved the toy's [[articulation]], but also made it easier for a toy to conform to [[for safety reasons\|safety regulations]]—under stress, they simply pop off, allowing for easy reattachment, instead of a piece of plastic breaking into sharp shards.<ref name="henkei">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/general-articles-25/translated-version-of-the-takara-tomy-transformers-henkei--classics-staff-interview-167073/ Translated interview with TakaraTomy Henkei staff]</ref>