C joint - Revision history

Cyberlink420 at 20:11, 11 May 2022

2022-05-11T20:11:53Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* ~~{{w\|Lego\|~~LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.		* [[LEGO]] has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
	:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.		:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.
	* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.		* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.

Fritz: /* Toys with C joints */

2021-11-26T17:41:44Z

Toys with C joints

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	==Toys with C joints==		==Toys with C joints==
	===Revenge of the Fallen~~/N.E.S.T. Global Alliance~~===		===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Brawn (ROTF)\|Brawn]] (bars only)		* [[Brawn (ROTF)\|Brawn]] (bars only)
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	* [[Scattorshot (ROTF)\|Scattorshot]] (bars only - his guns)		* [[Scattorshot (ROTF)\|Scattorshot]] (bars only - his guns)
	* [[Skystalker (ROTF)\|Skystalker]]		* [[Skystalker (ROTF)\|Skystalker]]
	}}		}}{{-}}

	===Transformers (2010)===		===''Transformers'' (2010)===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Breacher (TF 2010)\|Breacher]]		* [[Breacher (TF 2010)\|Breacher]]
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	* [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)\|Windcharger]] (bars only)		* [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)\|Windcharger]] (bars only)
	* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)\|Wreck-Gar]]		* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)\|Wreck-Gar]]
	}}		}}{{-}}

	===Generations===		===''Generations''===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]		* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]
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	}}{{-}}		}}{{-}}

	===~~=Titans Return====~~		===''United''===
	~~{{collist\|3\|~~
	* [[Horri-Bull#Generations\|Terri-Bull]] / [[Flywheels#Generations\|Skytread]]
	}}

	~~===~~United===
	{{note\|This section lists only those molds or retools that have no Western release, molds released in the West retain their functionality when released in Japan.}}		{{note\|This section lists only those molds or retools that have no Western release, molds released in the West retain their functionality when released in Japan.}}
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Frenzy (G1)#United\|Frenzy]] / [[Rumble (G1)#United\|Rumble]]		* [[Frenzy (G1)#United\|Frenzy]] / [[Rumble (G1)#United\|Rumble]]
	* [[Scrapheap (G1)\|Scrapheap]]		* [[Scrapheap (G1)\|Scrapheap]]
	}}		}}{{-}}

	===Dark of the Moon===		===''Dark of the Moon''===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Bumblebee (Movie)\|Bumblebee]] (bars only - his arms)		* [[Bumblebee (Movie)\|Bumblebee]] (bars only - his arms)
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	}}		}}

	====Human Alliance====		====''Human Alliance''====
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Dark of the Moon\|Backfire]]		* [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Dark of the Moon\|Backfire]]
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	}}		}}

	====Cyberverse====		====''Cyberverse''====
	[[File:Clip system cyberverse.jpg\|thumb\|upright=.75]]		[[File:Clip system cyberverse.jpg\|thumb\|upright=.75]]
	* All [[Cyberverse (toyline)\|Cyberverse]] figures have at least one hand that is a clip. All Cyberverse weapon platforms/playsets have the usual smattering of clips and bars. They also all have a uniform placement of clips and bars on the sides of one of their modes, allowing them to connect to one another.		* All ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)\|Cyberverse]]'' figures have at least one hand that is a clip. All Cyberverse weapon platforms/playsets have the usual smattering of clips and bars. They also all have a uniform placement of clips and bars on the sides of one of their modes, allowing them to connect to one another.
	{{--}}		{{-}}

			===''Titans Return''===
			{{collist\|1\|
			* [[Horri-Bull#Generations\|Terri-Bull]] / [[Flywheels#Generations\|Skytread]]
			}}{{-}}

	===The Last Knight===		===''The Last Knight''===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|1\|
	* [[Sqweeks#The Last Knight\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)		* [[Sqweeks#The Last Knight\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)
	}}		}}

	====Tiny Turbo Changers====		====''Tiny Turbo Changers''====
	[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]		[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]
	Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Changers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.		Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Changers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
	{{-}}		{{--}}

	==Notes==		==Notes==

Saix: /* Generations */clean up, replaced: Black Shadow (Victory) → Black Shadow (G1)

2021-09-19T23:27:56Z

Generations: clean up, replaced: Black Shadow (Victory) → Black Shadow (G1)

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	* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]		* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]
	* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]		* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]
	* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (~~Victory~~)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)		* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (G1)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)
	* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]		* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]
	* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]		* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]

Cyberlink420: /* Tiny Turbo Changers */

2021-08-20T21:15:26Z

Tiny Turbo Changers

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	====Tiny Turbo Changers====		====Tiny Turbo Changers====
	[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]		[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]
	Almost all of the Tiny Turbo ~~Chargers~~ feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.		Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Changers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
	{{-}}		{{-}}

NexusShard17 at 17:57, 29 July 2021

2021-07-29T17:57:21Z

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	[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]		[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]

	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen/N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.

Yaxuo: clean up, replaced: [[Transformers: Generations| → [[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|

2020-07-03T19:01:18Z

clean up, replaced: [[Transformers: Generations| → [[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|

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	[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]		[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]

	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.

	==Toys with C joints==		==Toys with C joints==
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	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]		* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]
	* [[~~Kup_~~(G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]		* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]
	* [[~~Scourge_~~(G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]		* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]
	* [[~~Thunderwing_~~(G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[~~Black_Shadow_~~(Victory)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)		* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (Victory)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)
	* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]		* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]
	* [[~~Junkyard_~~(G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]		* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]
	}}{{-}}		}}{{-}}

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	===The Last Knight===		===The Last Knight===
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Sqweeks#~~The_Last_Knight~~\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)		* [[Sqweeks#The Last Knight\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)
	}}		}}

	====Tiny Turbo Changers====		====Tiny Turbo Changers====
	[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]		[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]
	Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.		Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
	{{-}}		{{-}}

	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* {{w\|Lego\|LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.		* {{w\|Lego\|LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
	:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.		:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.
	* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.		* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.
	* ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.		* ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.
	* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.		* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.

Cyberlink420 at 19:35, 13 September 2018

2018-09-13T19:35:11Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* ~~[[Wikipedia:~~Lego\|LEGO]] has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.		* {{w\|Lego\|LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
	:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.		:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.
	* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.		* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.

CATBBA at 04:43, 25 August 2018

2018-08-25T04:43:19Z

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	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Miyake ~~Tomoya~~]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.

	==Toys with C joints==		==Toys with C joints==

Khajidha at 18:32, 14 June 2018

2018-06-14T18:32:30Z

ShootingStar7X at 17:52, 8 June 2018

2018-06-08T17:52:09Z

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	====Titans Return====		====Titans Return====
	{{collist\|3\|		{{collist\|3\|
	* [[Horri-Bull#Generations\|Terri-Bull]]		* [[Horri-Bull#Generations\|Terri-Bull]] / [[Flywheels#Generations\|Skytread]]
	* [[Flywheels#Generations\|Skytread]]
	}}		}}

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	* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]		* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]
	* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]		* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]
	* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (~~Victory~~)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)		* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (G1)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)
	* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]		* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]
	* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]		* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]

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	[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]		[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]

	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen/N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.

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	[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]		[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]

	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Tomoya Miyake]],<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref> who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.

	==Toys with C joints==		==Toys with C joints==
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	* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]		* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations\|Darkmount]] / [[Skullgrin#Generations\|Skullgrin]]
	* [[~~Kup_~~(G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]		* [[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations\|Sergeant Kup]]
	* [[~~Scourge_~~(G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]		* [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations\|Scourge]]
	* [[~~Thunderwing_~~(G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[~~Black_Shadow_~~(Victory)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)		* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations\|Thunderwing]] / [[Black Shadow (Victory)#Generations\|Sky Shadow]] (bars only - his guns)
	* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]		* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations\|Wheeljack]]
	* [[~~Junkyard_~~(G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]		* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations\|Junkheap]]
	}}{{-}}		}}{{-}}

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	* [[Sqweeks#~~The_Last_Knight~~\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)		* [[Sqweeks#The Last Knight\|Sqweeks]] (Bars only, all 4 handlebars are compatible)
	}}		}}

	====Tiny Turbo Changers====		====Tiny Turbo Changers====
	[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]		[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]
	Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.		Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
	{{-}}		{{-}}

	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* {{w\|Lego\|LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.		* {{w\|Lego\|LEGO}} has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
	:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.		:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.
	* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.		* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.
	* ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.		* ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.
	* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.		* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.

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	[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]		[[File:Cjoint-Lugnut.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2.2\|Now we're cookin'.]]

	The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple ~~3mm~~ bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.		The '''C joint''' is an accessory mounting system using a rather simple 3 mm bar and c-shaped clip. First used in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]/[[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' series on a few items in 2009, by the time of 2010's [[Transformers (2010 toyline)\|gold-packaging ''Transformers'' line]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations\|Generations]]'', the C joint has seen much more widespread use.

	The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Miyake Tomoya]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.		The system has been given the internal nickname "'''Miyake joint'''" by [[TakaraTomy]] employees, named after its designer [[Miyake Tomoya]]<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/359804-united-reveal-shield-jazz-development-secret-story.html</ref>, who first used it on the [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Recon\|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide]] toy.
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	====Tiny Turbo Changers====		====Tiny Turbo Changers====
	[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]		[[File:TLK-toy TTC-Cogman.jpg\|right\|thumb\|150px\|"Give me a weapon, sir. Please."]]
	Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature ~~3mm~~ fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with ~~3mm~~ bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.		Almost all of the Tiny Turbo Chargers feature 3 mm fists for their robot modes. This means that they can cling to any bot or weapon with 3 mm bars, making for either some hilariously over-armed tiny robots... or some comedy antics with the larger bots.
	{{-}}		{{-}}

	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* [[Wikipedia:Lego\|LEGO]] has long made use of ~~3mm~~ bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your ~~3mm~~-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount ~~3mm~~ clip weapons.		* [[Wikipedia:Lego\|LEGO]] has long made use of 3 mm bars and clips as well. In practice, LEGO's standard is just the slightest bit larger than Hasbro's, so LEGO clips with even a little wear will only loosely grip C joint bars. Still, LEGO minifigures can cling to your 3 mm-bar-equipped Transformers, and their vehicles (assuming they incorporate the appropriate parts) can mount 3 mm clip weapons.
	:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.		:*Naturally, this means that similar-construction [[Kre-O]] parts should work as well.
	* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.		* While C joints ''per se'' were not developed until the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline, many previously made toys have similarly sized bars that can be used to attach C joint weaponry. At least [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generation 1\|one example]] dates to the earliest days of the franchise. The [[Action Master]] weapons' handles are all C joint-compatible pegs, though the general lack of clips on the robots themselves means this compatibility has somewhat limited practical application for modern figures. Still, you could give the Action Master partners some extra weaponry.
	* ...but be careful about it. As with [[~~5mm~~ post]]s, a bar that appears to be ~~3mm~~ may not quite be ~~3mm~~. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.		* ...but be careful about it. As with [[5 mm post]]s, a bar that appears to be 3 mm may not quite be 3 mm. '''{{SITENAME SHORT}}''' will not be held responsible if you break the clips on your weapons trying to force them onto bars that are too big.
	* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.		* Because clips are attached to the right side of the [[Ark (DOTM)\|Ark]], it is technically the largest C-joint accessory yet made.