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		<title>Abates at 09:40, 6 February 2014</title>
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		<updated>2014-02-06T09:40:41Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 09:40, 6 February 2014&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&amp;#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&amp;#039;d say he&amp;#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&amp;#039;s wishier, but personally I&amp;#039;d still put him in if he&amp;#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&amp;#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&amp;#039;d say he&amp;#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&amp;#039;s wishier, but personally I&amp;#039;d still put him in if he&amp;#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::There has never been a TF city, yes.  That is correct.  There are many cities in Transformers fiction including [[Autobot City]], but, I argue, none of them are Transformers.  Transformers that have been &#039;&#039;called&#039;&#039; &quot;cities&quot; are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES.  I realize that we like to &quot;believe&quot; official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::There has never been a TF city, yes.  That is correct.  There are many cities in Transformers fiction including [[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Autobot City (G1)|&lt;/ins&gt;Autobot City]], but, I argue, none of them are Transformers.  Transformers that have been &#039;&#039;called&#039;&#039; &quot;cities&quot; are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES.  I realize that we like to &quot;believe&quot; official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city.  He&amp;#039;s a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he&amp;#039;s a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city.  He&amp;#039;s a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he&amp;#039;s a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Abates</name></author>
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		<title>Derik: /* Transformers cities on Earth */ new section</title>
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		<updated>2009-04-13T12:19:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Transformers cities on Earth: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l8&quot;&gt;Line 8:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&amp;#039;Autobot City,&amp;#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &amp;#039;city&amp;#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&amp;#039;Autobot City,&amp;#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &amp;#039;city&amp;#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings.  A group of tall buildings is not a city.  It is a tiny portion of a city.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings.  A group of tall buildings is not a city.  It is a tiny portion of a city.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Transformers cities on Earth ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I&#039;m proposing a new sub-category &quot;Transformer Earth cities,&quot; simply because I think that&#039;s a meaningful division to make.  Anyone have thoughts on this? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:19, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Derik</name></author>
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		<title>Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -  */</title>
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		<updated>2009-03-26T23:45:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&amp;#039;Autobot City,&amp;#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &amp;#039;city&amp;#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&amp;#039;Autobot City,&amp;#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &amp;#039;city&amp;#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings.  A group of tall buildings is not a city.  It is a tiny portion of a city.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings.  A group of tall buildings is not a city.  It is a tiny portion of a city.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Deceptitran</name></author>
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		<title>Steve-o at 15:38, 4 July 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T15:38:08Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city.  He&amp;#039;s a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he&amp;#039;s a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city.  He&amp;#039;s a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he&amp;#039;s a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &amp;#039;city&amp;#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&#039;Autobot City,&#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &#039;city&#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&#039;Autobot City,&#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &#039;city&#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings.  A group of tall buildings is not a city.  It is a tiny portion of a city.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38&lt;/ins&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Steve-o</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Cities&amp;diff=136462&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Derik at 05:01, 4 July 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T05:01:49Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&amp;#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&amp;#039;d say he&amp;#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&amp;#039;s wishier, but personally I&amp;#039;d still put him in if he&amp;#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&amp;#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&amp;#039;d say he&amp;#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&amp;#039;s wishier, but personally I&amp;#039;d still put him in if he&amp;#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::There has never been a TF city, yes.  That is correct.  There are many cities in Transformers fiction including [[Autobot City]], but, I argue, none of them are Transformers.  Transformers that have been &#039;&#039;called&#039;&#039; &quot;cities&quot; are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES.  I realize that we like to &quot;believe&quot; official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::There has never been a TF city, yes.  That is correct.  There are many cities in Transformers fiction including [[Autobot City]], but, I argue, none of them are Transformers.  Transformers that have been &#039;&#039;called&#039;&#039; &quot;cities&quot; are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES.  I realize that we like to &quot;believe&quot; official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city.  He&#039;s a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he&#039;s a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::But there are cities... like that.  I mean- how are you defining &#039;city&#039;?  Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America.  If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::&#039;Autobot City,&#039; for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots.  Clearly the term &#039;city&#039; is relative. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:01&lt;/ins&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Derik</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Cities&amp;diff=136461&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Steve-o at 04:45, 4 July 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T04:45:06Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&#039;d say he&#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&#039;s wishier, but personally I&#039;d still put him in if he&#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&#039;d say he&#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he&#039;s wishier, but personally I&#039;d still put him in if he&#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::There has never been a TF city, yes.  That is correct.  There are many cities in Transformers fiction including [[Autobot City]], but, I argue, none of them are Transformers.  Transformers that have been &#039;&#039;called&#039;&#039; &quot;cities&quot; are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES.  I realize that we like to &quot;believe&quot; official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45&lt;/ins&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Steve-o</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>ZacWilliam at 02:26, 4 July 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T02:26:12Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&#039;d say he&#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;betrayed &lt;/del&gt;so in fiction, so he&#039;s wishier, but personally I&#039;d still put him in if he&#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:By that argument there&#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&#039;d say he&#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;portrayed &lt;/ins&gt;so in fiction, so he&#039;s wishier, but personally I&#039;d still put him in if he&#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ZacWilliam</name></author>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Cities&amp;diff=136459&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>ZacWilliam at 02:25, 4 July 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T02:25:26Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:By that argument there&#039;s never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I&#039;d say he&#039;s definite fit. Fort Max was never betrayed so in fiction, so he&#039;s wishier, but personally I&#039;d still put him in if he&#039;s called a city anywhere official. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:25&lt;/ins&gt;, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ZacWilliam</name></author>
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		<title>Steve-o: Fort Max and Metroplex?</title>
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		<updated>2007-07-04T02:22:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Fort Max and Metroplex?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I don&amp;#039;t know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category.  Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on.  They are obviously more like bases or HQs.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Steve-o</name></author>
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