Double Pretender - Revision history

Saix at 04:54, 3 July 2025

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	A '''Double Pretender''' is a type of [[Pretender]] that has two robots occupying one Pretender shell. The two robots are capable of [[Combiner\|combining]] into one robot outside the shell.		A '''Double Pretender''' is a type of [[Pretender]] that has two robots occupying one Pretender shell. The two robots are capable of [[Combiner\|combining]] into one robot outside the shell.

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	==Fiction==		==Fiction==
	===~~Fun Publications ''~~Shattered ~~Glass'' continuity~~===		===Shattered Expectations===
	[[Image:Shattered Starscream.jpg\|left\|100px\|thumb]]		[[Image:Shattered Starscream.jpg\|left\|100px\|thumb]]
	The two Double Pretender shells were among the first Pretender shells that the [[Decepticon]]s developed. {{storylink\|Shattered Expectations (SG)\|Shattered Expectations}}		The two Double Pretender shells were among the first Pretender shells that the [[Decepticon]]s developed. {{storylink\|Shattered Expectations (SG)\|Shattered Expectations}}

Fishdragon: /* Combiner Wars */

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	**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Pretender Shell Gun, Blaster		**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Pretender Shell Gun, Blaster

	:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)\|Combiner Wars]]'' Double Pretender [[Optimus Prime (G1)/~~toys~~#DoublePretender\|Optimus Prime]] is a [[redeco]]/[[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling 30\|Swerve]], with a new head and a ''Generation 2''-inspired deco for his pickup truck mode. He reuses the blaster from his Legends Class figure while the shell's ion cannon is recolored from the one included with ''Generations'' Orion Pax.		:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)\|Combiner Wars]]'' Double Pretender [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Optimus Prime]] is a [[redeco]]/[[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling 30\|Swerve]], with a new head and a ''Generation 2''-inspired deco for his pickup truck mode. He reuses the blaster from his Legends Class figure while the shell's ion cannon is recolored from the one included with ''Generations'' Orion Pax.

	:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS\|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]]) and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines\|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.		:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS\|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]]) and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines\|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.
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	**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp		**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp

	:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/~~toys~~#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.		:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.

	:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].		:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].

Thylacine 2000: /* Notes */ -conjecture

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	* In an interview, [[Vincent D'Alleva\|Vinnie D'Alleva]] referred to these Pretenders as the "Monster Pretenders". Whether that was actually supposed to be their name or if D'Alleva got them confused with the [[Pretender Monster\|other Pretender combiner group]] is not clear.		* In an interview, [[Vincent D'Alleva\|Vinnie D'Alleva]] referred to these Pretenders as the "Monster Pretenders". Whether that was actually supposed to be their name or if D'Alleva got them confused with the [[Pretender Monster\|other Pretender combiner group]] is not clear.
	* Speaking of that other group, there's a number of similarities between the Pretender Monsters and the Double Pretenders that makes it seem the concept of the Double Pretenders was turned into the Pretender Monsters. Both groups have combiners as the inner robots, have monsters as shells and split open at the back.
	* A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to [[Groundbreaker]]'s was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.		* A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to [[Groundbreaker]]'s was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.

Monzo at 15:30, 22 March 2023

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	:''Accessories'': gun, sword, friggin' Pretender shell		:''Accessories'': gun, sword, friggin' Pretender shell

	: Oilmaster is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling30\|Swerve]] and [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]], which fit together into a newly-sculpted Pretender shell designed by [[Boss Fight Studio]] after the original unreleased Oilmaster toy. The Swerve redeco is colored to resemble Oilmaster's inner robot from "[[Badlands (issue)\|Badlands]]". The shell has shoulder and neck rotational joints (the neck being a first for Pretender shells), [[5 mm post]]-holes in its wrists, plus two 5 mm holes on its back for weapon storage. Unlike most Pretenders, the shell does not split in half to store the inner robots: instead the ~~packpack~~ swings up on a hinge for access to the inner cavity, with the truck slotting into the backpack-part proper, and the jet pegging into a post-hole inside the body.		: Oilmaster is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)\|Generations]]'' Legends Class [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling30\|Swerve]] and [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]], which fit together into a newly-sculpted Pretender shell designed by [[Boss Fight Studio]] after the original unreleased Oilmaster toy. The Swerve redeco is colored to resemble Oilmaster's inner robot from "[[Badlands (issue)\|Badlands]]". The shell has shoulder and neck rotational joints (the neck being a first for Pretender shells), [[5 mm post]]-holes in its wrists, plus two 5 mm holes on its back for weapon storage. Unlike most Pretenders, the shell does not split in half to store the inner robots: instead the backpack swings up on a hinge for access to the inner cavity, with the truck slotting into the backpack-part proper, and the jet pegging into a post-hole inside the body.

	: His shell weapons are from ''[[Construct-Bots]]'' sets, notably [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots\|Optimus Prime's]] sword and [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots\|Megatron's]] blaster rifle.		: His shell weapons are from ''[[Construct-Bots]]'' sets, notably [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots\|Optimus Prime's]] sword and [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots\|Megatron's]] blaster rifle.

TitaniumToughGuy: /* Combiner Wars */

2023-03-22T14:13:04Z

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	**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp		**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp

	:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are [[black ~~repaint]]s~~ of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.		:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.

	:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].		:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].

Cyberlink420: /* External links */

2023-03-22T14:10:08Z

External links

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	* Speaking of that other group, there's a number of similarities between the Pretender Monsters and the Double Pretenders that makes it seem the concept of the Double Pretenders was turned into the Pretender Monsters. Both groups have combiners as the inner robots, have monsters as shells and split open at the back.		* Speaking of that other group, there's a number of similarities between the Pretender Monsters and the Double Pretenders that makes it seem the concept of the Double Pretenders was turned into the Pretender Monsters. Both groups have combiners as the inner robots, have monsters as shells and split open at the back.
	* A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to [[Groundbreaker]]'s was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.		* A prototype pretender shell with a strong resemblance to [[Groundbreaker]]'s was displayed alongside the two double pretenders at BotCon 1996. Whether it actually had any connection to the concept is unknown.

			==References==
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	==External links==		==External links==

Cyberlink420 at 14:09, 22 March 2023

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	:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:		:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:
	::1. ~~[https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749521190801409~~ Fiddle the Megatron figure into a different position, and insert the joint piece on his chest to allow Spacewarp to attach on it].		::1. Fiddle the Megatron figure into a different position, and insert the joint piece on his chest to allow Spacewarp to attach on it.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=How it all fits: https://t.co/pFFmXwkzpl\|link=https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749521190801409\|name=Jesse Wittenrich\|site=Twitter\|year=2017\|month=04\|day=28\|(defunct=)}}</ref>
	::2. If the joint piece doesn't work due to its tolerance, ~~[https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749905867251712~~ rearrange Megatron in a slightly different position, and peg Spacewarp into Megatron's arm.]		::2. If the joint piece doesn't work due to its tolerance, rearrange Megatron in a slightly different position, and peg Spacewarp into Megatron's arm.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=If that doesn't work for you, you can skip the accessory and peg Spacewarp to Megatron's arm. https://t.co/aogfRbvhfD\|link=https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/857749905867251712\|name=Jesse Wittenrich\|site=Twitter\|year=2017\|month=04\|day=28\|(defunct=)}}</ref>
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ThatGuy79: /* Combiner Wars */

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	**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp		**''Accessories'': Pretender Shell, Sword for Pretender Shell, Rifle for Pretender Shell, [[Spacewarp]] Mini-Con, Joint piece for Spacewarp

	:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black ~~repaints~~ of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.		:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are [[black repaint]]s of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.

	:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].		:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].

Omegatron: /* Combiner Wars */

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	:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS\|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]]) and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines\|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.		:He also comes with [[Hi-Q#TFSS\|Hi-Q]] (a redeco of [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations\|Flanker]]) and a Pretender shell redecoed from [[Oilmaster#Timelines\|Oilmaster]]'s, and it was decorated after the original unreleased grey-and-red gorilla shell.

	:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Megatron (G1)/~~toys~~#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Megatron]].		:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Megatron (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Megatron]].
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	:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.		:''Combiner Wars'' Double Pretender [[Megatron (G1)/toys#DoublePretender\|Megatron]] is a redeco of his [[#GenerationsLegends\|Legends Class toy]], with his coloration based on his canceled ''Generation 2'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#CombatHero\|"arctic-camo" Combat Hero Megatron toy]]. He also comes with [[Spacewarp#Generations\|Spacewarp]] (a redeco of [[Blast Master#Generations\|''Generations'' Payload]]) and his Pretender shell, which is redecoed from [[Grand Maximus#Super-God Masterforce\|Grand Maximus]]'s. Double Pretender Megatron also comes with a joint piece for Spacewarp to let her fit in the shell along with Megatron. This joint piece is sculpted to resemble the large chromed [[laser cannon]] that the original G1 Megatron toy came with. His Pretender shell weapons are black repaints of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' Sentinel Prime's rifle and Voyager Class Optimus Prime's sword.

	:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/~~toys~~#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].		:This figure was only available through [[Fun Publications]]' [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service\|Subscription Service 5.0]] and shipped together with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations_toys#DoublePretender\|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]].

	:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:		:There are two ways to make Megatron and Spacewarp fit into the shell:

Fritz: /* Toys */

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	===Timelines===		===''Timelines''===
	[[File:TL-toy Oilmaster.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Haven't you always wanted a monkey?]]		[[File:TL-toy Oilmaster.jpg\|right\|thumb\|300px\|Haven't you always wanted a monkey?]]
	*'''Cybertron's Most Wanted''' ([[BotCon 2015]] box set)		*'''Cybertron's Most Wanted''' ([[BotCon 2015]] box set)
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	===~~Generations~~===		===''Combiner Wars''===
	[[File:TFSS-5.0-Double-Pretender-Optimus-Prime.jpg\|300px\|thumb]]		[[File:TFSS-5.0-Double-Pretender-Optimus-Prime.jpg\|300px\|thumb]]
	*'''Double Pretender Optimus Prime''' (2017)'''		*'''Double Pretender Optimus Prime''' (2017)'''