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	* '''Regular cover:''' Roller, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]		* '''Regular cover:''' Roller, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]
	* '''Subscription cover:''' Orion Pax broods, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]		* '''Subscription cover:''' Orion Pax broods, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
	* '''30th Anniversary cover:''' The second half of 30th anniversary celebration image by [[Alex Milne]] and Josh Perez, which connects to the 30th Anniversary cover to [[Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.\|''Robots in Disguise'' #36]] to complete the picture. The full image is a cross-continuity mash-up featuring thirty characters; this cover includes [[Unicron]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)\|''Robots in Disguise'' Sky-Byte]], [[Hot Shot (Animated)\|''Animated'' Hot Shot]], [[Dinobot (BW)\|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)\|''Animated'' Bulkhead]], [[Devastator (G1)\|G1 Devastator]], [[Impactor (G1)\|IDW Impactor]], [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Galvatron]], [[Megatron (G1)\|''Generation 2'' Megatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Shockwave]], [[Knock Out (Prime)\|''Prime'' Knock Out]], [[Blackout (Movie)\|live-action Blackout]], [[Drift (G1)\|IDW Drift]], [[Metroplex (G1)\|Metroplex]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Rodimus]], [[Lio Convoy (BW)\|''Beast Wars II'' Lio Convoy]], and [[Ratchet (WFC)\|''Prime'' Ratchet]].		* '''30th Anniversary cover:''' The second half of 30th anniversary celebration image by Alex Milne and Josh Perez, which connects to the 30th Anniversary cover to [[Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.\|''Robots in Disguise'' #36]] to complete the picture. The full image is a cross-continuity mash-up featuring thirty characters; this cover includes [[Unicron]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)\|''Robots in Disguise'' Sky-Byte]], [[Hot Shot (Animated)\|''Animated'' Hot Shot]], [[Dinobot (BW)\|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)\|''Animated'' Bulkhead]], [[Devastator (G1)\|G1 Devastator]], [[Impactor (G1)\|IDW Impactor]], [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Galvatron]], [[Megatron (G1)\|''Generation 2'' Megatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Shockwave]], [[Knock Out (Prime)\|''Prime'' Knock Out]], [[Blackout (Movie)\|live-action Blackout]], [[Drift (G1)\|IDW Drift]], [[Metroplex (G1)\|Metroplex]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Rodimus]], [[Lio Convoy (BW)\|''Beast Wars II'' Lio Convoy]], and [[Ratchet (WFC)\|''Prime'' Ratchet]].
	* '''SacAnime Exclusive cover:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] arm-wrestles with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)\|''Beast Hunters'' Optimus Prime]], by [[Tony Fleecs]]		* '''SacAnime Exclusive cover:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] arm-wrestles with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)\|''Beast Hunters'' Optimus Prime]], by [[Tony Fleecs]]

AzimuthAcolyte: Lio Convoy -> Lio Convoy (BW) update

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Lio Convoy -> Lio Convoy (BW) update

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	* '''Regular cover:''' Roller, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]		* '''Regular cover:''' Roller, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]
	* '''Subscription cover:''' Orion Pax broods, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]		* '''Subscription cover:''' Orion Pax broods, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
	* '''30th Anniversary cover:''' The second half of 30th anniversary celebration image by [[Alex Milne]] and Josh Perez, which connects to the 30th Anniversary cover to [[Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.\|''Robots in Disguise'' #36]] to complete the picture. The full image is a cross-continuity mash-up featuring thirty characters; this cover includes [[Unicron]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)\|''Robots in Disguise'' Sky-Byte]], [[Hot Shot (Animated)\|''Animated'' Hot Shot]], [[Dinobot (BW)\|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)\|''Animated'' Bulkhead]], [[Devastator (G1)\|G1 Devastator]], [[Impactor (G1)\|IDW Impactor]], [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Galvatron]], [[Megatron (G1)\|''Generation 2'' Megatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Shockwave]], [[Knock Out (Prime)\|''Prime'' Knock Out]], [[Blackout (Movie)\|live-action Blackout]], [[Drift (G1)\|IDW Drift]], [[Metroplex (G1)\|Metroplex]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Rodimus]], [[Lio Convoy\|''Beast Wars II'' Lio Convoy]], and [[Ratchet (WFC)\|''Prime'' Ratchet]].		* '''30th Anniversary cover:''' The second half of 30th anniversary celebration image by [[Alex Milne]] and Josh Perez, which connects to the 30th Anniversary cover to [[Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.\|''Robots in Disguise'' #36]] to complete the picture. The full image is a cross-continuity mash-up featuring thirty characters; this cover includes [[Unicron]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)\|''Robots in Disguise'' Sky-Byte]], [[Hot Shot (Animated)\|''Animated'' Hot Shot]], [[Dinobot (BW)\|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot]], [[Bulkhead (Animated)\|''Animated'' Bulkhead]], [[Devastator (G1)\|G1 Devastator]], [[Impactor (G1)\|IDW Impactor]], [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Galvatron]], [[Megatron (G1)\|''Generation 2'' Megatron]], [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Shockwave]], [[Knock Out (Prime)\|''Prime'' Knock Out]], [[Blackout (Movie)\|live-action Blackout]], [[Drift (G1)\|IDW Drift]], [[Metroplex (G1)\|Metroplex]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|IDW Rodimus]], [[Lio Convoy (BW)\|''Beast Wars II'' Lio Convoy]], and [[Ratchet (WFC)\|''Prime'' Ratchet]].
	* '''SacAnime Exclusive cover:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] arm-wrestles with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)\|''Beast Hunters'' Optimus Prime]], by [[Tony Fleecs]]		* '''SacAnime Exclusive cover:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] arm-wrestles with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)\|''Beast Hunters'' Optimus Prime]], by [[Tony Fleecs]]

Chasd20: /* Other trivia */

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Other trivia

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	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
	* When Chromedome shakes Glitch's hand, there are fewer concentric circles. Without realizing it, Glitch is interfering with the memory wipe. Originally we were to learn Glitch's memories weren't wiped with no one believing him, but this subplot was never elaborated on. <ref>Roberts, James <u>The MTMTE Scriptbooks / Vol. 1: Elegant Chaos</u> 2025</ref>		* When Chromedome shakes Glitch's hand, there are fewer concentric circles. Without realizing it, Glitch is interfering with the memory wipe. Originally we were to learn Glitch's memories weren't wiped with no one believing him, but this subplot was never elaborated on. <ref>Roberts, James <u>The MTMTE Scriptbooks / Vol. 1: Elegant Chaos</u> 2025</ref>
	* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #55]]. These hints include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)
	** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]		** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]

Dinobot Scorn: /* Synopsis */

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Synopsis

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	After a few moments of tense confusion, Rodimus's team establishes a cover story for themselves, pretending to be reinforcements teleported in to help Pax by [[Zeta Prime (G1)\|Zeta]]. Recognizing Chromedome from their previous meeting, Pax accepts the team and brings them back to his squad's dugout, where he explains their belief that Sentinel and the Senate are attempting to destroy the hot spot—the first to ignite in a million years, and curiously shaped like a hand—in order to prevent the [[Functionist Council]] from exploiting it as proof of [[Primus]] and strengthening their waning hold over the public. Cyclonus observes a mysterious platform floating over the hot spot, which Pax explains is apparently a monitoring station that arrived the previous evening; their conversation is chimed in on by [[Trailbreaker (G1)\|Trailbreaker]], who has just risen from the camp's [[recharge slab]].		After a few moments of tense confusion, Rodimus's team establishes a cover story for themselves, pretending to be reinforcements teleported in to help Pax by [[Zeta Prime (G1)\|Zeta]]. Recognizing Chromedome from their previous meeting, Pax accepts the team and brings them back to his squad's dugout, where he explains their belief that Sentinel and the Senate are attempting to destroy the hot spot—the first to ignite in a million years, and curiously shaped like a hand—in order to prevent the [[Functionist Council]] from exploiting it as proof of [[Primus]] and strengthening their waning hold over the public. Cyclonus observes a mysterious platform floating over the hot spot, which Pax explains is apparently a monitoring station that arrived the previous evening; their conversation is chimed in on by [[Trailbreaker (G1)\|Trailbreaker]], who has just risen from the camp's [[recharge slab]].

	As everyone talks amongst themselves, Rodimus, taken aback by Trailbreaker's appearance, secretly takes him aside and, without telling him anything ''outright'', warns him of the circumstances of his future death on [[Ofsted XVII]] in order to prevent it from happening. Rung talks with Roller, tasting the "juicebox" the heavyweight 'bot always carries with him, only to realize Roller has added the [[circuit speeder]] [[C32]] to the drink. Roller solemnly claims he requires the boost to keep up with the Outliers, and that Pax only keeps him around because they're friends. [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Megatron]] calls via the "[[time phone]]" communicator Rodimus has brought with him, but as Rodimus is busy with Trailbreaker, Orion is the one who answers. Pretending to be his younger self, Megatron has a conversation with the young police officer, whose optimism for the future is a mixed source of both affirmation and tragic amusement to Megatron. Rodimus returns from his talk with Trailbreaker and takes up the call, receiving a status update from Megatron that indicates a notable amount of background radiation is leaking through the [[quantum generator]]s from the past to the present. This causes Rodimus to believe that the senate's "monitoring station" is actually bombarding the hot spot with radiation in an attempt to sterilize it, but when he reveals this to the group, Rewind is able to use his database—altered to contain data from [[Functionist Universe\|the alternate timeline]] that Brainstorm has created—to uncover the full story. The Senate are not trying to ''sterilize'' the hot spot with radiation: they're trying to ''mutate'' it, to find a way to artificially create outliers.		As everyone talks amongst themselves, Rodimus, taken aback by Trailbreaker's appearance, secretly takes him aside and, without telling him anything ''outright'', warns him of the circumstances of his future death on [[Ofsted XVII]] in order to prevent it from happening. Rung talks with Roller, tasting the "[[K-Juice\|juicebox]]" the heavyweight 'bot always carries with him, only to realize Roller has added the [[circuit speeder]] [[C32]] to the drink. Roller solemnly claims he requires the boost to keep up with the Outliers, and that Pax only keeps him around because they're friends. [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Megatron]] calls via the "[[time phone]]" communicator Rodimus has brought with him, but as Rodimus is busy with Trailbreaker, Orion is the one who answers. Pretending to be his younger self, Megatron has a conversation with the young police officer, whose optimism for the future is a mixed source of both affirmation and tragic amusement to Megatron. Rodimus returns from his talk with Trailbreaker and takes up the call, receiving a status update from Megatron that indicates a notable amount of background radiation is leaking through the [[quantum generator]]s from the past to the present. This causes Rodimus to believe that the senate's "monitoring station" is actually bombarding the hot spot with radiation in an attempt to sterilize it, but when he reveals this to the group, Rewind is able to use his database—altered to contain data from [[Functionist Universe\|the alternate timeline]] that Brainstorm has created—to uncover the full story. The Senate are not trying to ''sterilize'' the hot spot with radiation: they're trying to ''mutate'' it, to find a way to artificially create outliers.

	[[File:AllOurParlousYesterdays-Roller.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2]]		[[File:AllOurParlousYesterdays-Roller.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2]]

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	* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>		* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>
	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
			* When Chromedome shakes Glitch's hand, there are fewer concentric circles. Without realizing it, Glitch is interfering with the memory wipe. Originally we were to learn Glitch's memories weren't wiped with no one believing him, but this subplot was never elaborated on. <ref>Roberts, James <u>The MTMTE Scriptbooks / Vol. 1: Elegant Chaos</u> 2025</ref>
	* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)

Chris McFeely: /* Other trivia */

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Other trivia

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	* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>		* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>
	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
	* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run ~~up to this point~~, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)
	** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]		** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]

Chris McFeely: /* Other trivia */

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Other trivia

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	* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>		* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>
	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
	* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run up to this point, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run up to this point, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate the theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)
	** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]		** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]

Chris McFeely: /* Other trivia */

2025-01-17T15:03:55Z

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	* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>		* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>
	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
	* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run up to this point, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate theory was ~~correct. The~~ truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]~~, but suggestions given in this issue~~ include:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run up to this point, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate theory was correct—''so'' many that, why, a savvy reader might be inclined to think their leg was being deliberately pulled! But nobody ever accused ''Transformers'' fans of being savvy; the truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]]. These hints include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)
	** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]		** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]

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	* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>		* When Rodimus is discussing the threat to the hot spot with Orion Pax, he refers to "fessile" radiation. Roberts chose the word deliberately. <ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Deliberately close to but different\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/1797014792240021827\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2024\|month=6\|day=1}}</ref>
	* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>		* A dropped scene would have had Zeta negotiating with Sentinel Prime, with Zeta saying he could get Pax's resistance fighters to stand down in exchange for him getting some influence in the Senate.<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ TransMissions Episode 94 – James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview] 1:14:03 to 1:15:04</ref>
	* ~~The~~ theory that underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] ~~might be Roller—whose~~ present day status ~~being~~ unknown ~~stood out as notable~~, ~~given that he was a prominent new character close to Optimus Prime—has been a popular [[fandom\|fan]] theory for much of the run of~~ ''~~More than Meets the Eye~~''. ~~Whether legitimate foreshadowing or~~ [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|~~deliberate leg-pulling~~]], this issue ~~is ''lousy'' with hints that imply it to be so~~:		* By this point in ''More than Meets the Eye'''s run up to this point, fans had come up with the popular theory that, underneath his mask, [[Tarn (G1)\|Tarn]] of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] was really Roller. There wasn't really any evidence for the theory within the text of the comic; it was based on the circumstantial fact that Roller was a big guy whose present-day status was unknown. But suddenly, this issue is absolutely ''lousy'' with not-remotely-subtle hints that indicate theory was correct. The truth of the matter would eventually be revealed in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle\|issue #54]], but suggestions given in this issue include:
	** Roller is a Point One Percenter, Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 and confirmed in #39		** Roller is a Point One Percenter; Tarn was implied to be one in issue #14 (and later confirmed in #39)
	** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest, Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]		** Roller is seen crushing an Elite Guardman's head with a look of virtual disinterest; Tarn did the same to the alternate [[Swerve (G1)\|Swerve]] in [[slaughterhouse\|issue #32]]
	** Roller has an addictive personality, Tarn is addicted to [[Transformation\|transforming]]		** Roller has an addictive personality; Tarn is addicted to [[Transformation\|transforming]]
	** Roller feels outclassed by the Outliers, a good reason for him to undergo the upgrades that put him on the level of [[Phase Sixer]]s, as noted in issue #14		** Roller feels outclassed by the Outliers, a good reason for him to undergo the upgrades that put him on the level of [[Phase Sixer]]s, as noted in issue #14
	** Orion encourages Roller to read Megatron's works this issue, Tarn is intimately familiar with Megatron's writings		** Orion encourages Roller to read Megatron's works this issue; Tarn is intimately familiar with Megatron's writings
	** Roller is familiar with Megatron's slogan "You are being deceived" which Tarn later quotes when confronted with the [[Scavengers (G1)\|Scavengers]]' "coffin"		** Roller is familiar with Megatron's slogan "You are being deceived" which Tarn later quotes when confronted with the [[Scavengers (G1)\|Scavengers]]' "coffin"
	** The left side of Roller's face is noticeably damaged this issue, Tarn has scarring around his left eye visible through his mask in closeups in [[Rules of Disengagement (issue)\|issue #7]] and [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?\|#8]]		** The left side of Roller's face is noticeably damaged this issue; Tarn has scarring around his left eye visible through his mask in closeups in [[Rules of Disengagement (issue)\|issue #7]] and [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?\|#8]]
	** Roller is ~~left~~ "abandoned" by his ~~friend~~ as a result of ~~the~~ mind-~~wipe~~, ~~a reason he may fall~~ in with the opposite side		** And the big one, Roller is forgotten and "abandoned" by Orion Pax and his friends as a result of them being mind-wiped, setting up the possibility of him falling in with the opposite side.

	===Soundtrack===		===Soundtrack===

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	===Soundtrack===		===Soundtrack===
	* "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwgduDrtpY Fontanelle]" by {{w\|Clem Snide}}<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=So! Songs for MTMTE #36! First up, 'Fontanelle' by Clem Slide: https://~~www~~.~~youtube.com~~/~~watch?v=VDwgduDrtpY~~\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/543572133692321792\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2014\|month=12\|day=13}</ref>		* "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwgduDrtpY Fontanelle]" by {{w\|Clem Snide}}<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=So! Songs for MTMTE #36! First up, 'Fontanelle' by Clem Slide: https://t.co/PgT4DEthue\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/543572133692321792\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2014\|month=12\|day=13}}</ref>
	* "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2soLr-1tXY An Elegant Chaos]" by {{w\|Julian Cope}}<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=MTMTE #36's second song is the one from which the new story arc takes its name: 'Elegant Chaos' by Julian Cope: https://t.co/NokQAFgJb6\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/543573294197522432\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2014\|month=12\|day=13}}</ref>		* "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2soLr-1tXY An Elegant Chaos]" by {{w\|Julian Cope}}<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=MTMTE #36's second song is the one from which the new story arc takes its name: 'Elegant Chaos' by Julian Cope: https://t.co/NokQAFgJb6\|link=https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/543573294197522432\|name=James Roberts\|site=Twitter\|year=2014\|month=12\|day=13}}</ref>

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	After a few moments of tense confusion, Rodimus's team establishes a cover story for themselves, pretending to be reinforcements teleported in to help Pax by [[Zeta Prime (G1)\|Zeta]]. Recognizing Chromedome from their previous meeting, Pax accepts the team and brings them back to his squad's dugout, where he explains their belief that Sentinel and the Senate are attempting to destroy the hot spot—the first to ignite in a million years, and curiously shaped like a hand—in order to prevent the [[Functionist Council]] from exploiting it as proof of [[Primus]] and strengthening their waning hold over the public. Cyclonus observes a mysterious platform floating over the hot spot, which Pax explains is apparently a monitoring station that arrived the previous evening; their conversation is chimed in on by [[Trailbreaker (G1)\|Trailbreaker]], who has just risen from the camp's [[recharge slab]].		After a few moments of tense confusion, Rodimus's team establishes a cover story for themselves, pretending to be reinforcements teleported in to help Pax by [[Zeta Prime (G1)\|Zeta]]. Recognizing Chromedome from their previous meeting, Pax accepts the team and brings them back to his squad's dugout, where he explains their belief that Sentinel and the Senate are attempting to destroy the hot spot—the first to ignite in a million years, and curiously shaped like a hand—in order to prevent the [[Functionist Council]] from exploiting it as proof of [[Primus]] and strengthening their waning hold over the public. Cyclonus observes a mysterious platform floating over the hot spot, which Pax explains is apparently a monitoring station that arrived the previous evening; their conversation is chimed in on by [[Trailbreaker (G1)\|Trailbreaker]], who has just risen from the camp's [[recharge slab]].

	As everyone talks amongst themselves, Rodimus, taken aback by Trailbreaker's appearance, secretly takes him aside and, without telling him anything ''outright'', warns him of the circumstances of his future death on [[Ofsted XVII]] in order to prevent it from happening. Rung talks with Roller, tasting the "juicebox" the heavyweight 'bot always carries with him, only to realize Roller has added the [[circuit speeder]] [[C32]] to the drink. Roller solemnly claims he requires the boost to keep up with the Outliers, and that Pax only keeps him around because they're friends. [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Megatron]] calls via the "[[time phone]]" communicator Rodimus has brought with him, but as Rodimus is busy with Trailbreaker, Orion is the one who answers. Pretending to be his younger self, Megatron has a conversation with the young police officer, whose optimism for the future is a mixed source of both affirmation and tragic amusement to Megatron. Rodimus returns from his talk with Trailbreaker and takes up the call, receiving a status update from Megatron that indicates a notable amount of background radiation is leaking through the [[quantum generator]]s from the past to the present. This causes Rodimus to believe that the senate's "monitoring station" is actually bombarding the hot spot with radiation in an attempt to sterilize it, but when he reveals this to the group, Rewind is able to use his database—altered to contain data from [[Functionist Universe\|the alternate timeline]] that Brainstorm has created—to uncover the full story. The Senate are not trying to ''sterilize'' the hot spot with radiation: they're trying to ''mutate'' it, to find a way to artificially create outliers.		As everyone talks amongst themselves, Rodimus, taken aback by Trailbreaker's appearance, secretly takes him aside and, without telling him anything ''outright'', warns him of the circumstances of his future death on [[Ofsted XVII]] in order to prevent it from happening. Rung talks with Roller, tasting the "[[K-Juice\|juicebox]]" the heavyweight 'bot always carries with him, only to realize Roller has added the [[circuit speeder]] [[C32]] to the drink. Roller solemnly claims he requires the boost to keep up with the Outliers, and that Pax only keeps him around because they're friends. [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Megatron]] calls via the "[[time phone]]" communicator Rodimus has brought with him, but as Rodimus is busy with Trailbreaker, Orion is the one who answers. Pretending to be his younger self, Megatron has a conversation with the young police officer, whose optimism for the future is a mixed source of both affirmation and tragic amusement to Megatron. Rodimus returns from his talk with Trailbreaker and takes up the call, receiving a status update from Megatron that indicates a notable amount of background radiation is leaking through the [[quantum generator]]s from the past to the present. This causes Rodimus to believe that the senate's "monitoring station" is actually bombarding the hot spot with radiation in an attempt to sterilize it, but when he reveals this to the group, Rewind is able to use his database—altered to contain data from [[Functionist Universe\|the alternate timeline]] that Brainstorm has created—to uncover the full story. The Senate are not trying to ''sterilize'' the hot spot with radiation: they're trying to ''mutate'' it, to find a way to artificially create outliers.

	[[File:AllOurParlousYesterdays-Roller.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2]]		[[File:AllOurParlousYesterdays-Roller.jpg\|thumb\|upright=2]]