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		<title>Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -  */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why&amp;#039;s the car-hood on his back? does IDW BB have some faux kibble on his chest ala Fire convoy? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 21:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &amp;quot;work.&amp;quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&amp;#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&amp;#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&amp;#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back, the engine hood on his chest, and the trunk area for feet.  I am not sure why he didn&amp;#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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And that works for lots of folks.  Me, I don&amp;#039;t really &amp;#039;&amp;#039;care&amp;#039;&amp;#039; if the Transformer is &amp;quot;realistic.&amp;quot;  I have to suspend my disbelief anyway.  I knew that they wanted to update the vehicles to modern forms, and granted that already.  But when I found out that they weren&amp;#039;t stopping there, but were changing TFs when they &amp;#039;&amp;#039;didn&amp;#039;t&amp;#039;&amp;#039; even update the vehicle mode, I felt I was lied to.  But, as I said already, that&amp;#039;s just me.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, Bumbles seems one of the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;most&amp;#039;&amp;#039; redesigned when he needs it the least. Ah, well. I&amp;#039;d have said he was too &amp;#039;classic&amp;#039; to warrant it, but doubtless others say the same thing about various other characters. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;C&amp;#039;est la vie&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. - [[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 0:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>G.B. Blackrock at 22:50, 30 March 2006</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot;&gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &amp;quot;work.&amp;quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&amp;#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&amp;#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&amp;#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back, the engine hood on his chest, and the trunk area for feet.  I am not sure why he didn&amp;#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &amp;quot;work.&amp;quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&amp;#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&amp;#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&amp;#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back, the engine hood on his chest, and the trunk area for feet.  I am not sure why he didn&amp;#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:28&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;And that works for lots of folks.  Me, I don&#039;t really &#039;&#039;care&#039;&#039; if the Transformer is &quot;realistic.&quot;  I have to suspend my disbelief anyway.  I knew that they wanted to update the vehicles to modern forms, and granted that already.  But when I found out that they weren&#039;t stopping there, but were changing TFs when they &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; even update the vehicle mode, I felt I was lied to.  But, as I said already, that&#039;s just me.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:50&lt;/ins&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ItsWalky at 22:34, 30 March 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;trunk(&lt;/del&gt;engine hood&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, really) &lt;/del&gt;on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;the engine hood on his chest&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, and the trunk area for feet&lt;/ins&gt;.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ItsWalky at 22:28, 30 March 2006</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back and the trunk(engine hood, really) on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back and the trunk(engine hood, really) on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;27&lt;/del&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;28&lt;/ins&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>ItsWalky</name></author>
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		<title>ItsWalky at 22:27, 30 March 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-30T22:27:50Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:27, 30 March 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back and the trunk(engine hood, really) on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back and the trunk(engine hood, really) on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[http://www.shortpacked.com/transformers/fanart/bumblebeetall.gif  Visual aid!]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:27&lt;/ins&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ItsWalky at 21:38, 30 March 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-30T21:38:37Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why&amp;#039;s the car-hood on his back? does IDW BB have some faux kibble on his chest ala Fire convoy? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 21:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why&amp;#039;s the car-hood on his back? does IDW BB have some faux kibble on his chest ala Fire convoy? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 21:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&#039;t need it (they didn&#039;t even update Bumblebee&#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&#039;t need it (they didn&#039;t even update Bumblebee&#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I think it has to do with minimizing size-changing.  E.J. Su seems to want his transformers to &quot;work.&quot;  A VW-accurate Bumblebee with the old transformation scheme would  have a torso that&#039;s quite tall.  The original toy didn&#039;t look so bad because the vehicle mode was super-deformed, but when using a real Beetle, he&#039;s not gonna look so hot. Su seems to have broken up the roof in two, putting the canopy on his back and the trunk(engine hood, really) on his chest.  I am not sure why he didn&#039;t rotate the torso at the waist, which would put him closer to his original look.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38&lt;/ins&gt;, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>G.B. Blackrock at 21:24, 30 March 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-03-30T21:24:51Z</updated>

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Why&amp;#039;s the car-hood on his back? does IDW BB have some faux kibble on his chest ala Fire convoy? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 21:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suffice it to say, IDW redesigned &amp;#039;&amp;#039;all&amp;#039;&amp;#039; the Transformers, even ones who didn&amp;#039;t need it (they didn&amp;#039;t even update Bumblebee&amp;#039;s vehicle mode, so why change the robot mode?).  However, I got absolutely no sympathy when I complained of this ATT, so I take it that most fans think that this is an okay change.  I&amp;#039;ll learn to deal with it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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