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	It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)		It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

	:WhY hiS sHOuLdErS HuRT?!--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 05:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:WhY hiS sHOuLdErS HuRT?!--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 05:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Apcog at 05:07, 28 February 2008

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	It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

			:WhY hiS sHOuLdErS HuRT?!--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 05:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jackpot at 03:58, 28 February 2008

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	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

			So here's the robot mode from all the angles it was shown:

			[[image:GrandMal_RobotTurnaround.jpg]]

			It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jackpot at 18:07, 27 February 2008

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	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
			::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Apcog at 16:27, 27 February 2008

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	::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)		::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
			:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Jackpot at 16:14, 27 February 2008

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	If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)		If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
	:The central lump is the top of the head mode, front end pointing down, I think. Charitably speaking, one could consider that a robot torso, with the twin guns being back-mounted. The appendage at right would be the right arm. If the image moves to reveal a head, the other arm, or some sign of legs during the time it's on-screen, I guess that would confirm it as a robot mode. Otherwise, yeah, it's a bit abstract.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 19:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)		:The central lump is the top of the head mode, front end pointing down, I think. Charitably speaking, one could consider that a robot torso, with the twin guns being back-mounted. The appendage at right would be the right arm. If the image moves to reveal a head, the other arm, or some sign of legs during the time it's on-screen, I guess that would confirm it as a robot mode. Otherwise, yeah, it's a bit abstract.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 19:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
	::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

			::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Crockalley at 20:41, 26 February 2008

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	If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)		If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
	:The central lump is the top of the head mode, front end pointing down, I think. Charitably speaking, one could consider that a robot torso, with the twin guns being back-mounted. The appendage at right would be the right arm. If the image moves to reveal a head, the other arm, or some sign of legs during the time it's on-screen, I guess that would confirm it as a robot mode. Otherwise, yeah, it's a bit abstract.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 19:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:The central lump is the top of the head mode, front end pointing down, I think. Charitably speaking, one could consider that a robot torso, with the twin guns being back-mounted. The appendage at right would be the right arm. If the image moves to reveal a head, the other arm, or some sign of legs during the time it's on-screen, I guess that would confirm it as a robot mode. Otherwise, yeah, it's a bit abstract.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 19:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
			::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Apcog at 19:11, 26 February 2008

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	If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
			:The central lump is the top of the head mode, front end pointing down, I think. Charitably speaking, one could consider that a robot torso, with the twin guns being back-mounted. The appendage at right would be the right arm. If the image moves to reveal a head, the other arm, or some sign of legs during the time it's on-screen, I guess that would confirm it as a robot mode. Otherwise, yeah, it's a bit abstract.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 19:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Crockalley: Robot mode?

2008-02-26T18:44:17Z

Robot mode?

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If anyone would be so kind, I'd like some help comprehending the Grand Mal's supposed "robot mode" in this picture. It looks like a lump with an appendage off to the right pointing down, and two long things coming off the front pointing up. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

			So here's the robot mode from all the angles it was shown:

			[[image:GrandMal_RobotTurnaround.jpg]]

			It's an ''odd'' robot, no doubt. The arms seem rather far-out from the shoulders, and if there ''is'' a head, it's EXTREMELY undetailed. I'd even be tempted to call it a "battle suit" or something, but that really makes no sense in either the context of the dialogue or the Grand Mal's actual manifestation. For the simplicity's sake, I'm happy to say "robot" and call it a day. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 03:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
	:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
			::::If I have time tonight, I'll get some screencaps of the turnaround. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 18:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)		::Thank you very much for that description! That is sort of how I saw it, but I wouldn't come across that picture and think "robot mode!" unless I was told. --[[User:Crockalley\|Crockalley]] 20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

	::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I very clearly see two small legs at the bottom. It's got a [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)\|Crumplezone]]/[[Bulkhead (Animated)\|Bulkhead]] aesthetic. As to your criteria, yeah, the other arm is there. I thought this was the best shot because at a three-quarters view you can see the thickness of the guns and such, and from the front it was all kind of a mess. The one thing I ''couldn't'' pick out was a head, but I can see arms and hands and little legs, so hey. Just as the head-mode looks like the control helmet, the robot mode looks a little like Megatron's [[Wikipedia:Vorlon\|encounter suit]] - same arms, same enormous shoulders surrounding the presumed head. - [[User:Jackpot\|Jackpot]] 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
			:::I'm still not seeing legs in that screengrab; I see what might be hip joints if I squint a bit. Still, if the image does have both arms and legs that become evident as it rotates, all well and good.--[[User:Apcog\|Apcog]] 16:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>