File talk:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=File_talk%3AWar_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg File talk:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg - Revision history 2026-07-25T04:35:48Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=465415&oldid=prev 86.87.28.191 at 16:28, 15 June 2010 2010-06-15T16:28:59Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:28, 15 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::: 86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't '''know''' Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::: 86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't '''know''' Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::::::::Yeah, that's what caused the misunderstanding. --[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 12:28, 15 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::I'm sorry. My comment was not intended as flamebait, and I apologise if it came across that way. I'll try to watch how I word things in future. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:49, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::I'm sorry. My comment was not intended as flamebait, and I apologise if it came across that way. I'll try to watch how I word things in future. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:49, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::::::::Yeah, i'm sorry too. For some reason TFWiki brings out the worst in me and i always tend to get cranky and a pain in the ass here.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 12:28, 15 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

86.87.28.191 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=465177&oldid=prev Abates at 23:49, 14 June 2010 2010-06-14T23:49:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:49, 14 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::: 86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't '''know''' Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::: 86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't '''know''' Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::::::I'm sorry. My comment was not intended as flamebait, and I apologise if it came across that way. I'll try to watch how I word things in future. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:49, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=465167&oldid=prev Roni134730 at 23:19, 14 June 2010 2010-06-14T23:19:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:19, 14 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun '''and''' a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun '''and''' a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::::::: 86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't '''know''' Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Roni134730 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=465131&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 20:18, 14 June 2010 2010-06-14T20:18:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:18, 14 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun '''and''' a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::::::Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun '''and''' a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::::::If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=465117&oldid=prev 86.87.28.191 at 19:33, 14 June 2010 2010-06-14T19:33:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:33, 14 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::: Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that '''is''' a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is '''holding''' in his right '''hand''', he never uses the gun that '''is''' his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's '''left''' arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::: Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that '''is''' a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is '''holding''' in his right '''hand''', he never uses the gun that '''is''' his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's '''left''' arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::::I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::::::Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun '''and''' a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

86.87.28.191 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=464762&oldid=prev Abates at 22:24, 13 June 2010 2010-06-13T22:24:41Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:24, 13 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:05, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:05, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::: Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that '''is''' a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is '''holding''' in his right '''hand''', he never uses the gun that '''is''' his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's '''left''' arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::::: Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that '''is''' a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is '''holding''' in his right '''hand''', he never uses the gun that '''is''' his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's '''left''' arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::::I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Abates https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=464758&oldid=prev Roni134730 at 22:15, 13 June 2010 2010-06-13T22:15:51Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:15, 13 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:05, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::</ins>Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:05<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::::: Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that '''is''' a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is '''holding''' in his right '''hand''', he never uses the gun that '''is''' his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's '''left''' arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:15</ins>, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Roni134730 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=464754&oldid=prev Carrion at 22:05, 13 June 2010 2010-06-13T22:05:19Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:05, 13 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:05, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Carrion https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=464741&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 21:17, 13 June 2010 2010-06-13T21:17:07Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:17, 13 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::The commercial definitely is. As there is ''no'' support for left-handed shooting in WFC.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:40, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::The commercial definitely is. As there is ''no'' support for left-handed shooting in WFC.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:40, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=File_talk:War_for_Cybertron_Shockwave.jpg&diff=464737&oldid=prev Abates at 20:44, 13 June 2010 2010-06-13T20:44:20Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:44, 13 June 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::This has nothing to do with different incarnations. Walky just said his gun is on his left arm in the commercial. Either the image is wrong or the commercial is. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:22, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::This has nothing to do with different incarnations. Walky just said his gun is on his left arm in the commercial. Either the image is wrong or the commercial is. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:22, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::The commercial definitely is. As there is ''no'' support for left-handed shooting in WFC.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:40, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::The commercial definitely is. As there is ''no'' support for left-handed shooting in WFC.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:40, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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