Machine Wars: Transformers - Revision history

Locoman at 20:36, 27 December 2025

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The Wadapan: /* Notes */

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Notes

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	* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.		* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.
	* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.		* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.
	* Evidently having learned nothing from Fun Publications, Hasbro designer Evan Brooks was in 2023 quite keen to do an exclusive [[capsule]] dedicated to ''Machine Wars'' [[redeco]]s as part of the ''[[Transformers: Legacy]]'' toyline.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=I’m hoping we can do a Machine Wars capsule. I’m sure people have noticed some of the molds have features that have compatible characteristics and could be redecoed into these characters.\|link=https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/07/28/sdcc-2023-hasbro-show-floor-qa-legacy-studio-series-video-games-more-488215\|name=Evan Brooks\|site=TFW2005\|title=SDCC 2023 Hasbro Show Floor Q&A – Legacy, Studio Series, Video Games, More!\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=28}}</ref>		* Evidently having learned nothing from Fun Publications, Hasbro designer [[Evan Brooks]] was in 2023 quite keen to do an exclusive [[capsule]] dedicated to ''Machine Wars'' [[redeco]]s as part of the ''[[Transformers: Legacy]]'' toyline.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=I’m hoping we can do a Machine Wars capsule. I’m sure people have noticed some of the molds have features that have compatible characteristics and could be redecoed into these characters.\|link=https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/07/28/sdcc-2023-hasbro-show-floor-qa-legacy-studio-series-video-games-more-488215\|name=Evan Brooks\|site=TFW2005\|title=SDCC 2023 Hasbro Show Floor Q&A – Legacy, Studio Series, Video Games, More!\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=28}}</ref>

	==References==		==References==

The Wadapan at 10:55, 16 September 2024

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	* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.		* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.
	* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.		* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.
			* Evidently having learned nothing from Fun Publications, Hasbro designer Evan Brooks was in 2023 quite keen to do an exclusive [[capsule]] dedicated to ''Machine Wars'' [[redeco]]s as part of the ''[[Transformers: Legacy]]'' toyline.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=I’m hoping we can do a Machine Wars capsule. I’m sure people have noticed some of the molds have features that have compatible characteristics and could be redecoed into these characters.\|link=https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/07/28/sdcc-2023-hasbro-show-floor-qa-legacy-studio-series-video-games-more-488215\|name=Evan Brooks\|site=TFW2005\|title=SDCC 2023 Hasbro Show Floor Q&A – Legacy, Studio Series, Video Games, More!\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=28}}</ref>

			==References==
			{{reflist}}

	[[Category:Exclusive toylines]]		[[Category:Exclusive toylines]]

Saix at 19:05, 26 January 2024

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	~~{{disambig2\|the real-world franchise\|the historical event within the fiction\|Machine Wars (event)}}~~
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	'''''Machine Wars: Transformers''''' was a line of Transformers toys released in 1997 as a [[KB Toys\|Kay-Bee]] Toy Works [[exclusive]]. Apparently, the line was an early attempt to bring vehicular characters and popular names back into ''Transformers'' after the success of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'' revived the brand. Only one wave of figures was produced, and memory of the line has mostly faded. It is a rare example of a [[micro-continuity]] which nevertheless had a full (albeit very small) toyline of its own.		'''''Machine Wars: Transformers''''' was a line of Transformers toys released in 1997 as a [[KB Toys\|Kay-Bee]] Toy Works [[exclusive]]. Apparently, the line was an early attempt to bring vehicular characters and popular names back into ''Transformers'' after the success of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'' revived the brand. Only one wave of figures was produced, and memory of the line has mostly faded. It is a rare example of a [[micro-continuity]] (centering on the title "[[Machine Wars (event)\|Machine Wars]]") which nevertheless had a full (albeit very small) toyline of its own.

	==Fiction==		==Fiction==

M Sipher: /* Toys */

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Toys

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	{{Bp-a1\|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Hoist]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Hoist]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Hubcap (MW)#Toys\|Hubcap]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Hubcap (MW)#Toys\|Hubcap]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Mirage]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Mirage]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Prowl (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Prowl]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Prowl (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Prowl]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<br>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<br>
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	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megaplex#Toys\|Megaplex]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Megaplex#Toys\|Megaplex]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Thundercracker]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Thundercracker]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Megas'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Megas'''</u>
	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (G1)#Machine Wars\|Sandstorm]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Sandstorm (G1)#Machine Wars\|Sandstorm]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Soundwave]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Soundwave]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Ultras'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Ultras'''</u>
	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Optimus Prime]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Optimus Prime]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Starscream]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|[[File:MW-toy Hoist.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Basic Hoist]]		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|[[File:MW-toy Hoist.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Basic Hoist]]
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			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)\|Soundwave]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)\|Soundwave]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[BotCon 2013]]'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[BotCon 2013]]'''</u>
			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}
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			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1d1\|Kreon Souvenir Figure Set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Kre-O\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Kre-O\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|Kreon Souvenir Figure Set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Kre-O\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Kre-O\|Skywarp]])}}
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Saix: /* Notes */

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Notes

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	* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.		* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.

			[[Category:Exclusive toylines]]
	[[Category:Franchises]]		[[Category:Franchises]]
	[[Category:Generation 1 franchises]]		[[Category:Generation 1 franchises]]
	[[Category:Machine Wars\| ]]		[[Category:Machine Wars\| ]]
	~~[[Category:Toylines]]~~

Saix: Feel free to restore the external link, but I don't think it's very useful

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Feel free to restore the external link, but I don't think it's very useful

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	'''''Machine Wars: Transformers''''' was a line of Transformers toys released in 1997 as a [[KB Toys\|Kay-Bee]] Toy Works [[exclusive]]. Apparently, the line was an early attempt to bring vehicular characters and popular names back into ''Transformers'' after the success of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'' revived the brand. Only one wave of figures was produced, and memory of the line has mostly faded. It is a rare example of a [[micro-continuity]] which nevertheless had a full (albeit very small) toyline of its own.		'''''Machine Wars: Transformers''''' was a line of Transformers toys released in 1997 as a [[KB Toys\|Kay-Bee]] Toy Works [[exclusive]]. Apparently, the line was an early attempt to bring vehicular characters and popular names back into ''Transformers'' after the success of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'' revived the brand. Only one wave of figures was produced, and memory of the line has mostly faded. It is a rare example of a [[micro-continuity]] which nevertheless had a full (albeit very small) toyline of its own.


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	* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.		* In a similar instance of an apparently botched deco change, Starscream has a huge Decepticon insignia in jet mode.... added via black paint on top of black plastic.
	* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.		* A new version of Hubcap, based on the BotCon 2013 Hoist/Electrons toy, was under consideration for a [[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]] toy... but the low sales of the BotCon sets nixed that pretty effectively.

	~~==External links==~~
	*[http://www.tfu.info/series/mw.htm ''Machine Wars'' toys at TFU.info]

	[[Category:Franchises]]		[[Category:Franchises]]

Nevermore: /* Original line */

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	[[File:MW-toy OptimusPrime.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Ultra Optimus Prime]]		[[File:MW-toy OptimusPrime.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Ultra Optimus Prime]]
	The line consists entirely of pre-existing molds: four small molds that had been originally developed for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (~~franchise~~)\|Generation 2]]'' but were canceled with the line, and four larger toys released in the second-to-last year of "Generation 1" in European markets.		The line consists entirely of pre-existing molds: four small molds that had been originally developed for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)\|Generation 2]]'' but were canceled with the line, and four larger toys released in the second-to-last year of "Generation 1" in European markets.

	The four smaller molds share the same "flipchanger" quick transformation feature as early ''Beast Wars'' Basic class toys released the year before; the four larger toys are more in line with the blocky, non-articulated Generation 1 design style, but have had their missile launching gimmicks either altered or removed altogether [[for safety reasons]].		The four smaller molds share the same "flipchanger" quick transformation feature as early ''Beast Wars'' Basic class toys released the year before; the four larger toys are more in line with the blocky, non-articulated Generation 1 design style, but have had their missile launching gimmicks either altered or removed altogether [[for safety reasons]].

Fanofcoolstuff27: /* Fiction */

2022-05-16T08:58:58Z

Fiction

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	''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].		''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].

	This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)/toys#BlackStarscream\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.		This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|semi-unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)/toys#BlackStarscream\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.

	Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".		Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".
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	The [[Genesis: The Art of Transformers\|''Genesis'']] art book contains one more suggestion of continuity in a portrait of ''Machine Wars'' Starscream. [[Matt Kuphaldt\|The artist]] embedded story information into the scene, placing [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Starscream]] on the dais where [[The Transformers: The Movie\|he was once crowned]] and adorning him with the same purple cape. But the setting glows golden, a reference to the post-[[The Rebirth, Part 3\|Rebirth]] [[Golden Age]], and Starscream brandishes the presumably-defeated [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Galvatron]]'s torn-off [[particle cannon]]. The picture was intended to be a sequel to [https://web.archive.org/web/20160305010651/http://www.spektakle.com/portfolio/tf/tf_fan_starscream.html a piece of the artist's own fan art.]		The [[Genesis: The Art of Transformers\|''Genesis'']] art book contains one more suggestion of continuity in a portrait of ''Machine Wars'' Starscream. [[Matt Kuphaldt\|The artist]] embedded story information into the scene, placing [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Starscream]] on the dais where [[The Transformers: The Movie\|he was once crowned]] and adorning him with the same purple cape. But the setting glows golden, a reference to the post-[[The Rebirth, Part 3\|Rebirth]] [[Golden Age]], and Starscream brandishes the presumably-defeated [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Galvatron]]'s torn-off [[particle cannon]]. The picture was intended to be a sequel to [https://web.archive.org/web/20160305010651/http://www.spektakle.com/portfolio/tf/tf_fan_starscream.html a piece of the artist's own fan art.]

	In [[2012]] it was announced via [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 48\|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #48]] that the [[BotCon 2013]] set would be ''Machine Wars''-themed and set after ''Generation 2'' in the ''[[Transformers: Wings Universe\|Wings Universe]]'', a variant version of the [[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]. [[A Flash Forward, Part 6\|The G2-themed Club comic in the same issue]] was a prelude to the ''Machine Wars''-themed Botcon 2013 comic "[[Termination]]". The ''Machine Wars'' storyline concluded the next year with the digitally-released sequel "[[A Common Foe]]", which ended with a bridging tease at the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity]].		In [[2012]] it was announced via [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 48\|''Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club'' #48]] that the [[BotCon 2013]] set would be ''Machine Wars''-themed and set after ''Generation 2'' in the ''[[Transformers: Wings Universe\|Wings Universe]]'', a variant version of the [[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]. [[A Flash Forward, Part 6\|The ''Generation 2''-themed Club comic in the same issue]] was a prelude to the ''Machine Wars''-themed Botcon 2013 comic "[[Termination]]". The ''Machine Wars'' storyline concluded the next year with the digitally-released sequel "[[A Common Foe]]", which ended with a bridging tease at the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity]].
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	==Toys==		==Toys==

Fritz at 20:29, 5 October 2021

2021-10-05T20:29:59Z

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	''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].		''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].

	This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.		This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)/toys#BlackStarscream\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.

	Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".		Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".
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	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}
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	{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#~~Machine Wars~~\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}
	{{Bp-a1d1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Mirage]] & [[Thundercracker (MW)#Toys\|Thundercracker]]}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Mirage]] & [[Thundercracker (MW)#Toys\|Thundercracker]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (MW)#Toys\|Sandstorm]]}}		{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (MW)#Toys\|Sandstorm]]}}

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	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Hoist]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Hoist]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Hubcap (MW)#Toys\|Hubcap]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Hubcap (MW)#Toys\|Hubcap]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Mirage]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Mirage]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Prowl (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Prowl]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Prowl (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Prowl]]}}
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<br>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<br>
	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megaplex#Toys\|Megaplex]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Megaplex#Toys\|Megaplex]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Thundercracker]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Thundercracker]]}}
	\|		\|
	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Megas'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Megas'''</u>
	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (G1)#Machine Wars\|Sandstorm]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Sandstorm (G1)#Machine Wars\|Sandstorm]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Soundwave]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Soundwave]]}}
	\|		\|
	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Ultras'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''Ultras'''</u>
	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Optimus Prime]]}}		{{Bp-a2\|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Optimus Prime]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d2\|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Starscream]]}}
	\|		\|
	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|[[File:MW-toy Hoist.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Basic Hoist]]		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|[[File:MW-toy Hoist.jpg\|right\|thumb\|250px\|Basic Hoist]]
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	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)\|''Universe'' (2003)]]'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)\|''Universe'' (2003)]]'''</u>
			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)\|Soundwave]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)\|Soundwave]]}}
	\|		\|
	\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[BotCon 2013]]'''</u>		\|width="20%" valign="top"\|<u>'''[[BotCon 2013]]'''</u>
			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}
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			<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-a1d1\|Kreon Souvenir Figure Set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Kre-O\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Kre-O\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|Kreon Souvenir Figure Set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Kre-O\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Kre-O\|Skywarp]])}}
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	''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].		''Machine Wars''<nowiki>'</nowiki> placement within the larger fiction is an open-ended question. There is no form of accompanying fiction, nor even a story-establishing packaging blurb to set the stage. The on-package [[bio]]s establish that ten of the twelve toys are blatantly returning [[The Transformers (franchise)\|Generation 1]] characters in new bodies. (The errant two are [[Megaplex]] and [[Hubcap (MW)\|Hubcap]], the latter of whom shares a name with but is otherwise nothing like the Generation 1 [[Hubcap (G1)\|robot of that name]].) As such, many fans have taken to thinking that ''Machine Wars'' is part of the Generation 1 universe after ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]],'' since this was its characters' first appearance as toys since then, and the [[Transformers brand\|''Transformers'' franchise]] had not yet explicitly rebooted continuity nor established the concept of a [[Continuity\|multiverse]].

	This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.		This placement is supported somewhat by [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]]'s bio, which refers to him taking to the skies "again", likely a reference to the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB\|unreleased ''Generation 2'' "ATB Megatron" toy]]. Years later, the idea would find more traction in [[TakaraTomy]]'s "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/table.html official timeline]", where ''Machine Wars'' indeed follows ''Generation 2'' in a grand conglomeration of all ''Transformers'' continuities. Although that timeline makes ''Machine Wars'' a dead-end branch, the [[e-HOBBY]]-exclusive black [[Starscream (G1)/toys#BlackStarscream\|Starscream]] bio refers to his ''Machine Wars'' form in the past tense.

	Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".		Within ''Machine Wars'' itself, the only remaining element of story progression is found in [[Thundercracker (G1)\|Thundercracker]]'s bio. Where his Generation 1 bio had established him as being unsure of the Decepticon cause but willing to follow orders, his ''Machine Wars'' function is "Rebel Warrior", and he's described as believing in the Decepticon cause, yet "rebellious among his own ranks".
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	<ul class="iconlist">		<ul class="iconlist">
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megaplex#~~Machine Wars~~\|Megaplex]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Megaplex#Toys\|Megaplex]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Megatron]]}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars\|Skywarp]]}}
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	{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|''Machine Wars'' box set<br>([[Hoist (G1)/toys#Timelines\|Hoist]], [[Megaplex#Timelines\|Megaplex]], [[Skywarp (MW)#Toys\|Skywarp]])}}
	{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#~~Machine Wars~~\|Starscream]]}}		{{Bp-d1\|[[Starscream (MW)#Timelines\|Starscream]]}}
	{{Bp-a1d1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Mirage]] & [[Thundercracker (MW)#Toys\|Thundercracker]]}}		{{Bp-a1d1\|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#BotCon2013\|Mirage]] & [[Thundercracker (MW)#Toys\|Thundercracker]]}}
	{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (MW)#Toys\|Sandstorm]]}}		{{Bp-a1\|[[Sandstorm (MW)#Toys\|Sandstorm]]}}