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Saix: Merging

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	~~{{faction\|autobot}}~~		#REDIRECT[[Ginrai (robot)]]
	~~{{Disambigm\|Magnus (rank)\|Prime (disambiguation)}}~~
	~~:''Magnus Prime is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Titans Return (franchise)\|Titans Return]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family\|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''~~
	~~[[File:SiegeOnCybertron-MagnusPrime.jpg\|thumb\|350px\|Schrödinger's Prime.]]~~

	'''Magnus Prime''' is a [[City Commander]]! With the help of his [[Titan Master]] [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], he can unleash his [[Chōkon Power\|Chokon Power]]!<ref>[[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]</ref>

	~~==Fiction==~~
	~~===''Titans Return'' marketing material===~~
	With the Decepticons besieging Cybertron, Magnus Prime used his missile launchers to protect Autobot defenses and strike back at the Decepticons.<ref>''Titans Return'' Siege on Cybertron pack-in blurb</ref>
	~~{{--}}~~

	~~==Toys==~~
	~~===''Generations''===~~
	~~[[File:TF-Titans-Return-Siege-on-Cybertron-Magnus-Prime.jpg\|upright=1.66\|thumb\|Magnus's secret [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys~~#~~Sports_Label\|Prime]] cosplay.]]~~
	*'''Siege on Cybertron''' (Gift set, 2017)
	**''Accessories'': Two blasters, two shoulder cannons, [[Ginrai (~~human)#Generations\|Ginrai]] Titan Master~~

	~~:''[[Titans Return (toyline)\|Titans Return]]'' "Magnus Prime" is a redeco of ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)\|Legends]]'' [[Ginrai (human)#Legends\|Super Ginrai]], and he transforms from~~ robot to truck to giant base. Oddly enough, the Hasbro version names Ginrai as the small Titan Master partner. In comparison to ''Legends'' Ginrai's deco, Magnus Prime features a blue crotch and truck windows, and his Autobot insignias on his truck kibble are enlarged and moved to the center, and his guns are entirely painted in one color with the handles being unpainted. His Titan Master's head and legs are now blue. As a redeco of the said retool, Magnus Prime can combine with ''Legends'' [[Godbomber#Legends\|Godbomber]]. Although the stock renders and promotional photos shows that the upper section of the waist painted red, the final product is unpainted.

	~~:At least some units are missing a peg that stabilizes his combination with Godbomber's leg mode parts.~~

	:Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes [[Fathom#Toys\|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations\|Tidal Wave]], [[Haruma Gō#Toys\|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations\|Metalhawk]], [[Pounce#Generations\|Decepticon Pounce]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)#Titans Return\|Thunderwing]]. In the United States, this set was exclusive to [[BigBadToyStore]], but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Amazon (website)\|Amazon]], the Canadian [[Walmart]] online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.
	~~{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}~~

	~~==Identity==~~
	It appears as though Magnus Prime was originally intended to be [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]], but was changed during development to be either [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]]'s [[transtector]] or the sentient robot [[Ginrai (robot)\|Ginrai]] instead.

	Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. The Siege on Cybertron box set still calls him a City Commander, which was the rank used by the original Ultra Magnus toy. However, there's also an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.<ref>John Warden stated in an [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 interview], "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."</ref>

	In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be Ginrai,<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."</ref> and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|"Generation 1" Optimus Primes]] or [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Optimus Prime]].<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."</ref> Further confirmation came when his Titan Master partner was revealed by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]] as [[Ginrai (human)#Generations\|Ginrai]].

	~~==References==~~
	~~{{reflist}}~~

	~~[[Category:Exclusives]]~~
	~~[[Category:Primes]]~~
	~~[[Category:Titans Return Autobots]]~~
	~~[[Category:Toy-only characters~~]]

Dark T Zeratul: /* Identity */ Rewording this to make it a bit more clear that he's pretty definitely Ginrai, but probably was originally designed to be Ultra Magnus.

2021-08-16T23:12:54Z

Identity: Rewording this to make it a bit more clear that he's pretty definitely Ginrai, but probably was originally designed to be Ultra Magnus.

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	==Identity==		==Identity==
	~~So, just who is~~ Magnus Prime, ~~anyway? There are some competing facts~~, ~~none~~ of ~~them conclusive:~~		It appears as though Magnus Prime was originally intended to be [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]], but was changed during development to be either [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]]'s [[transtector]] or the sentient robot [[Ginrai (robot)\|Ginrai]] instead.
	*The Siege on Cybertron box set ~~calls him a City Commander. That~~, ~~combined with his name, implies that he might be~~ a ~~new incarnation of~~ [[~~Ultra~~ Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.<ref>John Warden stated in an [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 interview], "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."</ref>
	*In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai ~~(human)\|Ginrai]]~~,<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."</ref> and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|"Generation 1" Optimus Primes]] or [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Optimus Prime]].<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."</ref>		Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. The Siege on Cybertron box set still calls him a City Commander, which was the rank used by the original Ultra Magnus toy. However, there's also an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.<ref>John Warden stated in an [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 interview], "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."</ref>
	*His Titan Master partner was revealed by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]] as [[Ginrai (human)#Generations\|Ginrai]]~~, which suggests that Magnus Prime is either Ginrai's [[transtector]] or the sentient robot [[Ginrai (robot)\|Ginrai]].~~
	*Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be Ginrai,<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."</ref> and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|"Generation 1" Optimus Primes]] or [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Optimus Prime]].<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."</ref> Further confirmation came when his Titan Master partner was revealed by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]] as [[Ginrai (human)#Generations\|Ginrai]].
	~~Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page~~.

	==References==		==References==

Boingus: /* Identity */ adding specific quotes if the post is lost

2021-06-27T17:37:27Z

Identity: adding specific quotes if the post is lost

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	==Identity==		==Identity==
	So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive:		So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive:
	*The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron toys.		*The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron/Chaos on Velocitron toys. Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated in an interview it is not Ultra Magnus.<ref>John Warden stated in an [https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 interview], "No he’s not Ultra Magnus." and "No it’s not Ultra Magnus."</ref>
	*Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Primes]] or ~~maybe~~ [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' ~~Primes~~]].<ref>~~[https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-~~and~~-more--p1911385~~.~~php#p1911385 Interview with John Warden]~~</ref>		*In the same interview, John Warden stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]],<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, "That was when we were going to naming the characters and we couldn’t call him Ginrai, so I wanted to make sure that when we worked with the copyright team, that we chose a name that was accessible to maybe a casual fan?" and "Our intention was that is essentially Ginrai but without saying it."</ref> and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|"Generation 1" Optimus Primes]] or [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Optimus Prime]].<ref>John Warden stated in the interview above, " So using a name like Magnus Prime it kind of feels like it’s a step up from Optimus Prime?" and "No I would say put him with Optimus Prime, or the Combiner Wars Optimus, like it’s in that zone, or the 2000’s Armada."</ref>
	*His Titan Master partner is Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime ~~himself can~~'~~t really be~~ Ginrai.		*His Titan Master partner was revealed by [[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]] as [[Ginrai (human)#Generations\|Ginrai]], which suggests that Magnus Prime is either Ginrai's [[transtector]] or the sentient robot [[Ginrai (robot)\|Ginrai]].
	*Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		*Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
	Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.		Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.

Jalaguy at 12:23, 9 June 2021

2021-06-09T12:23:29Z

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	*Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Primes]] or maybe [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Primes]].<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 Interview with John Warden]</ref>		*Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Primes]] or maybe [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Primes]].<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 Interview with John Warden]</ref>
	*His Titan Master partner is Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime himself can't really be Ginrai.		*His Titan Master partner is Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime himself can't really be Ginrai.
	*~~Otherwise~~-~~accurate prerelease leaks~~, ~~from~~ before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, ~~claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the~~ [[~~Magna Convoy\|inner robot~~]] of ~~the~~ ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus~~\|Powered~~ Convoy]] ~~toy~~. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		*Leaked documents described by the TransMissions podcast,<ref>[https://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2016/03/transmissions-episode-157-feedback-frenzy TransMissions #157], segment begins 43:16</ref> before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, apparently included a blue "''[[Diaclone]]''" redeco of Powermaster Optimus Prime labelled "Magnus Prime (Super Ginrai)". Further details are unclear, but "blue ''Diaclone'' colors" in this context presumably referred to the Powered Convoy toy that was redecoed to become the original Ultra Magnus figure, and which has since inspired [[Delta Magnus]] and [[Magna Convoy]]. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
	Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.		Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47: /* Toys */

2021-03-11T10:57:17Z

Toys

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	:At least some units are missing a peg that stabilizes his combination with Godbomber's leg mode parts.		:At least some units are missing a peg that stabilizes his combination with Godbomber's leg mode parts.

	:Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes [[Fathom#~~Generations~~\|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations\|Tidal Wave]], [[Haruma Gō#~~Generations~~\|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations\|Metalhawk]], [[Pounce#Generations\|Decepticon Pounce]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)#~~SiegeOnCybertron~~\|Thunderwing]]. In the United States, this set was exclusive to [[BigBadToyStore]], but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Amazon (website)\|Amazon]], the Canadian [[Walmart]] online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.		:Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes [[Fathom#Toys\|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations\|Tidal Wave]], [[Haruma Gō#Toys\|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations\|Metalhawk]], [[Pounce#Generations\|Decepticon Pounce]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)#Titans Return\|Thunderwing]]. In the United States, this set was exclusive to [[BigBadToyStore]], but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Amazon (website)\|Amazon]], the Canadian [[Walmart]] online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.
	{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}		{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}

Saix at 15:56, 8 February 2021

2021-02-08T15:56:56Z

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	:Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes [[Fathom#Generations\|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations\|Tidal Wave]], [[Haruma Gō#Generations\|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations\|Metalhawk]], [[Pounce#Generations\|Decepticon Pounce]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)#SiegeOnCybertron\|Thunderwing]]. In the United States, this set was exclusive to [[BigBadToyStore]], but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Amazon (website)\|Amazon]], the Canadian [[Walmart]] online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.		:Magnus Prime and Ginrai were only available as part of the "Siege of Cybertron" set, which also includes [[Fathom#Generations\|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations\|Tidal Wave]], [[Haruma Gō#Generations\|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations\|Metalhawk]], [[Pounce#Generations\|Decepticon Pounce]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)#SiegeOnCybertron\|Thunderwing]]. In the United States, this set was exclusive to [[BigBadToyStore]], but it saw a wider release in Canada where it was available at [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Amazon (website)\|Amazon]], the Canadian [[Walmart]] online store, book store chain Indigo and several PC retailers (seriously!). Additionally, it was also available at retail in Hong Kong and Singapore and even saw an official release in the Netherlands, where it was exclusively available from BOL.

	{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}		{{CWUltraMagnusMold}}

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2021-02-08T15:51:57Z

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	'''Magnus Prime''' is a [[City Commander]]! With the help of his [[Titan Master]] [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], he can unleash his [[Chōkon Power\|Chokon Power]]!<ref>[[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]</ref>		'''Magnus Prime''' is a [[City Commander]]! With the help of his [[Titan Master]] [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], he can unleash his [[Chōkon Power\|Chokon Power]]!<ref>[[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]</ref>

	~~{{TOCclear}}~~

	==Fiction==		==Fiction==
	===''Titans Return'' marketing material===		===''Titans Return'' marketing material===
	With the Decepticons besieging Cybertron, Magnus Prime used his missile launchers to protect Autobot defenses and strike back at the Decepticons.<ref>''Titans Return'' Siege on Cybertron pack-in blurb</ref>		With the Decepticons besieging Cybertron, Magnus Prime used his missile launchers to protect Autobot defenses and strike back at the Decepticons.<ref>''Titans Return'' Siege on Cybertron pack-in blurb</ref>
			{{--}}

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	==~~Who is Magnus Prime now?~~==		==Identity==
	So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are ~~a lot of~~ competing facts, none of them conclusive:		So, just who is Magnus Prime, anyway? There are some competing facts, none of them conclusive:
	*The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]].		*The Siege on Cybertron box set calls him a City Commander. That, combined with his name, implies that he might be a new incarnation of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)\|Ultra Magnus]]. However, there's an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron toys.
	**But complicating this, there's ~~also~~ an [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return\|Ultra Magnus Titan Master]] figure created to be shipped in the same Strength/Intelligence/Fireblast/Speed matrix as the rest of the Siege on Cybertron toys.		*Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Primes]] or maybe [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Primes]].<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 Interview with John Warden]</ref>
	*~~On the other hand,~~ Hasbro's [[John Warden]] stated ~~[https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/transformers-titans-return-product-reveals-news-updates-rumors-leaks-and-more--p1911385.php#p1911385 in an interview]~~ that the figure was intended to be [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], and further suggested that the figure belonged with [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Generation 1 Optimus Primes]] or maybe [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|''Armada'' Primes]]. ~~Oy vey!~~		*His Titan Master partner is Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime himself can't really be Ginrai.
	*His Titan Master partner~~, meanwhile,~~ is Ginrai, which suggests that Magnus Prime himself can't really be Ginrai.		*Otherwise-accurate prerelease leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
	*Otherwise-accurate ~~pre-release~~ leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can ~~reasonably~~ be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page.
	Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. ~~Feel free to go nuts in your own [[Personal canon\|head canon]] because there's no definitive answer on this question... ''yet''.~~


	==References==		==References==

Brightcoat: Removed fancruft. RodimusPrimal may be a popular youtuber, but the video in question cites no sources and is pure speculation.

2021-02-08T15:44:54Z

Removed fancruft. RodimusPrimal may be a popular youtuber, but the video in question cites no sources and is pure speculation.

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	*Otherwise-accurate pre-release leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can reasonably be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		*Otherwise-accurate pre-release leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can reasonably be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
	Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. Feel free to go nuts in your own [[Personal canon\|head canon]] because there's no definitive answer on this question... ''yet''.		Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. Feel free to go nuts in your own [[Personal canon\|head canon]] because there's no definitive answer on this question... ''yet''.
	According to this video by Rodimus Primal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuKnkeKxk0o&t=150s, He explains that Magnus Prime is indeed an American version of Ginrai, but due to trademark, had to be renamed.

	==References==		==References==

Tylerwu at 02:37, 8 February 2021

2021-02-08T02:37:17Z

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	*Otherwise-accurate pre-release leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can reasonably be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.		*Otherwise-accurate pre-release leaks, from before anything official was known of the Siege on Cybertron box set, claimed that Magnus Prime was going to be the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy in the colors of the [[Magna Convoy\|inner robot]] of the ''[[Diaclone]]'' [[Delta Magnus\|Powered Convoy]] toy. Though it can reasonably be inferred that plans changed after the Ginrai tooling became available, what the originally planned identity of the toy was is a mystery.
	Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. Feel free to go nuts in your own [[Personal canon\|head canon]] because there's no definitive answer on this question... ''yet''.		Anyway, the upshot of all of this is that we don't really know who Magnus Prime is, so we're plopping him here on his own page. Feel free to go nuts in your own [[Personal canon\|head canon]] because there's no definitive answer on this question... ''yet''.
			According to this video by Rodimus Primal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuKnkeKxk0o&t=150s, He explains that Magnus Prime is indeed an American version of Ginrai, but due to trademark, had to be renamed.

	==References==		==References==

S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 at 21:02, 1 October 2020

2020-10-01T21:02:40Z

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	[[File:SiegeOnCybertron-MagnusPrime.jpg\|thumb\|350px\|Schrödinger's Prime.]]		[[File:SiegeOnCybertron-MagnusPrime.jpg\|thumb\|350px\|Schrödinger's Prime.]]

	'''Magnus Prime''' is a City Commander! With the help of his [[Titan Master]] [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], he can unleash his Chokon Power!<ref>[[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]</ref>		'''Magnus Prime''' is a [[City Commander]]! With the help of his [[Titan Master]] [[Ginrai (human)\|Ginrai]], he can unleash his [[Chōkon Power\|Chokon Power]]!<ref>[[Trypticon's Titan Master Crunch]]</ref>

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	==Toys==		==Toys==
	===Generations===		===''Generations''===
	[[File:TF-Titans-Return-Siege-on-Cybertron-Magnus-Prime.jpg\|upright=1.66\|thumb\|Magnus's secret [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Sports_Label\|Prime]] cosplay.]]		[[File:TF-Titans-Return-Siege-on-Cybertron-Magnus-Prime.jpg\|upright=1.66\|thumb\|Magnus's secret [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Sports_Label\|Prime]] cosplay.]]
	*'''Siege on Cybertron''' (Gift set, 2017)		*'''Siege on Cybertron''' (Gift set, 2017)