Rebellion (Armada) - Revision history

Chase eX: /* Continuity errors */

2026-01-23T05:27:26Z

Continuity errors

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	*The background changes between the scenes of Starscream flying off and Sideways talking to Demolishor. ''Legends of the Microns'' switches it in Starscream's shot to match that of Sideways and Demolishor; however, the background of the ''Armada'' version of Starscream's scene is correct in this case (see above).		*The background changes between the scenes of Starscream flying off and Sideways talking to Demolishor. ''Legends of the Microns'' switches it in Starscream's shot to match that of Sideways and Demolishor; however, the background of the ''Armada'' version of Starscream's scene is correct in this case (see above).
	*Starscream claims Demolishor has beef with Megatron and should get over it, but it's more like Starscream's talking about himself. The Japanese dub doesn't have this issue since the point of their talk is entirely different.		*Starscream claims Demolishor has beef with Megatron and should get over it, but it's more like Starscream's talking about himself. The Japanese dub doesn't have this issue since the point of their talk is entirely different.
	*After this, Demolishor grumbles about everyone going "loopy" after losing the previous battle, despite the Decepticons already noted as suffering their third loss in a row at the episode's start. ''Legends of the Microns'' corrects this as Demolishor mentions the recent ''string'' of losses making everyone go crazy...at least, everyone except Cyclonus.		*After this, Demolishor grumbles about everyone going "loopy" after losing the previous battle, despite the Decepticons already noted as suffering their third loss in a row at the episode's start. ''Legends of the Microns'' corrects this as Demolishor mentions the recent ''string'' of losses making everyone go crazy... at least, everyone except Cyclonus.
	*Megatron refers to the Transformers as "Cybertronians," a term for their race that isn't often used through most ''[[Transformers brand\|Transformers]]'' fiction.		*Megatron refers to the Transformers as "Cybertronians," a term for their race that isn't often used through most ''[[Transformers brand\|Transformers]]'' fiction.

SoundSky: /* Foreign localization */

2025-04-20T21:57:35Z

Foreign localization

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	'''French'''		'''French'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''Rébellion'''" ("Rebellion")		:*''Title:'' "'''Rébellion'''" ("Rebellion")
			:*''Original airdate:'' [[January 3]], [[2004]]

Astrum: /* Foreign localization */

2024-02-21T18:24:07Z

Foreign localization

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	===Foreign localization===		===Foreign localization===
			'''French'''
			:*''Title:'' "'''Rébellion'''" ("Rebellion")


	'''Hungarian'''		'''Hungarian'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''Lázadás'''" ("Rebellion")		:*''Title:'' "'''Lázadás'''" ("Rebellion")

	~~'''Polish'''~~
	~~:*''Title:'' "'''Rebelia'''" ("Rebellion")~~

	'''~~French~~'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''~~Rébellion~~'''" ("Rebellion")		'''Italian'''
			:*''Title:'' "'''Ribellione'''" ("Rebellion")
			::*For some reasons, in Sideways's first line, the terms "log" and "astral date" are left in English.


	'''Korean'''		'''Korean'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''스크림의 반란'''" ("Scream's Rebellion")		:*''Title:'' "'''스크림의 반란'''" ("Scream's Rebellion")


			'''Polish'''
			:*''Title:'' "'''Rebelia'''" ("Rebellion")


	'''Portuguese'''		'''Portuguese'''

Starzone at 20:27, 3 February 2024

2024-02-03T20:27:08Z

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0TheLegend0: /* Differences with Legends of the Microns */

2024-02-03T12:39:13Z

Differences with Legends of the Microns

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	*Compared to how bitter he is in ''Armada'' (as quoted above), Starscream is more reflective and sensitive during his talk with Demolishor in ''Legends of the Microns''; Starscream also periodically pauses speaking in the Japanese dub, whereas he talks almost nonstop in ''Armada''. He goes through the ship's historical records on the Mini-Cons for clues on why the Transformers keep fighting. He tells Demolishor that despite only knowing to fight since birth, they're just like the Autobots, who also fight without hesitating. Then Starscream says he and Demolishor wouldn't hesitate to battle Megatron if they were born as Autobots instead. Demolishor asks what Starscream is trying to say, and Starscream says Demolishor is probably right, but no one can do anything about it now.		*Compared to how bitter he is in ''Armada'' (as quoted above), Starscream is more reflective and sensitive during his talk with Demolishor in ''Legends of the Microns''; Starscream also periodically pauses speaking in the Japanese dub, whereas he talks almost nonstop in ''Armada''. He goes through the ship's historical records on the Mini-Cons for clues on why the Transformers keep fighting. He tells Demolishor that despite only knowing to fight since birth, they're just like the Autobots, who also fight without hesitating. Then Starscream says he and Demolishor wouldn't hesitate to battle Megatron if they were born as Autobots instead. Demolishor asks what Starscream is trying to say, and Starscream says Demolishor is probably right, but no one can do anything about it now.
	*The Star Saber is redrawn in the scene of Megatron asleep outside with it. In the next scene with Starscream and Demolishor, the latter says Megatron crossed the line by attacking Starscream in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', he says the Decepticons' losing streak is getting the better of Megatron since he's now more irritable than ever.		*The Star Saber is redrawn in the scene of Megatron asleep outside with it. In the next scene with Starscream and Demolishor, the latter says Megatron crossed the line by attacking Starscream in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', he says the Decepticons' losing streak is getting the better of Megatron since he's now more irritable than ever.
	*After Sideways gives Starscream the order from Megatron, Sideways says that Megatron said guarding the warp gate is a task befitting one who can only do exactly as he's told. ~~It's the opposite in~~ ''Armada'' ~~since~~ Sideways claims Starscream is the only one Megatron trusts with the job. Immediately after this exchange, Starscream thinks about how absurd the order is in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream has no internal dialogue, and he's redrawn. After he throws Demolishor aside, ''Armada'' has Starscream say he's fed up with his unjust treatment, while the assignment being stated for one who can only do exactly as he's told angers him in ''Legends of the Microns''.		*After Sideways gives Starscream the order from Megatron, Sideways says that Megatron said guarding the warp gate is a task befitting one who can only do exactly as he's told. In ''Armada'', Sideways claims Starscream is the only one Megatron trusts with the job. Immediately after this exchange, Starscream thinks about how absurd the order is in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream has no internal dialogue, and he's redrawn. After he throws Demolishor aside, ''Armada'' has Starscream say he's fed up with his unjust treatment, while the assignment being stated for one who can only do exactly as he's told angers him in ''Legends of the Microns''.
	*In the scene with Sideways in the throne room, Starscream surmises that Megatron is "waiting" for him outside. He doesn't come to that conclusion in ''Armada''; instead, he says, "He's mine!"		*In the scene with Sideways in the throne room, Starscream surmises that Megatron is "waiting" for him outside. He doesn't come to that conclusion in ''Armada''; instead, he says, "He's mine!"
	*In ''Armada'', Demolishor tells Cyclonus if they don't stop Starscream, the Decepticons can kiss their morale goodbye. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Demolishor says the group's unity is at stake instead.		*In ''Armada'', Demolishor tells Cyclonus if they don't stop Starscream, the Decepticons can kiss their morale goodbye. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Demolishor says the group's unity is at stake instead.

0TheLegend0: /* Differences with Legends of the Microns */

2024-02-03T12:36:51Z

Differences with Legends of the Microns

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	*Starscream's first line is changed to reflect the dark mood in the base better. Megatron is also calm and collected when telling Starscream to follow him.		*Starscream's first line is changed to reflect the dark mood in the base better. Megatron is also calm and collected when telling Starscream to follow him.
	*In ''Armada'', Starscream stammers as he asks Megatron if something is wrong, and Megatron tells Starscream that he's terminated. Then Sideways says Megatron will exterminate Starscream and blames the latter for his failure. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream is silent as Megatron approaches, and the latter sternly asks Starscream what he just said. Then Demolishor asks what the sound heard was, and Sideways calls Megatron a hypocrite who abuses his men for his losses.		*In ''Armada'', Starscream stammers as he asks Megatron if something is wrong, and Megatron tells Starscream that he's terminated. Then Sideways says Megatron will exterminate Starscream and blames the latter for his failure. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream is silent as Megatron approaches, and the latter sternly asks Starscream what he just said. Then Demolishor asks what the sound heard was, and Sideways calls Megatron a hypocrite who abuses his men for his losses.
	*Rather than saying Starscream also fails at following orders, Megatron asks if Starscream ~~realizes that~~ he ~~only acts as he pleases~~ and if he's even capable of using his ~~"fat~~ head."		*Rather than saying Starscream also fails at following orders, Megatron asks if Starscream is unable to do anything but what he's told and if he's even capable of using his head.
	*In ''Armada'', Megatron says what he did to Starscream was a fitting punishment for insubordination. ''Legends of the Microns'' makes him crueler as he says it was a bore and that his men are all pitifully dull. Starscream later tells Demolishor that he has unfinished business in ''Armada'' but tells him to be quiet in ''Legends of the Microns''.		*In ''Armada'', Megatron says what he did to Starscream was a fitting punishment for insubordination. ''Legends of the Microns'' makes him crueler as he says it was a bore and that his men are all pitifully dull. Starscream later tells Demolishor that he has unfinished business in ''Armada'' but tells him to be quiet in ''Legends of the Microns''.
	*Starscream doesn't say anything before he flies off. Sideways quips on how the former's departure is a fine example of teamwork among comrades. Then after Sideways leaves, Demolishor asks what he means about why the latter is loyal to Megatron.		*Starscream doesn't say anything before he flies off. Sideways quips on how the former's departure is a fine example of teamwork among comrades. Then after Sideways leaves, Demolishor asks what he means about why the latter is loyal to Megatron.
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	*Compared to how bitter he is in ''Armada'' (as quoted above), Starscream is more reflective and sensitive during his talk with Demolishor in ''Legends of the Microns''; Starscream also periodically pauses speaking in the Japanese dub, whereas he talks almost nonstop in ''Armada''. He goes through the ship's historical records on the Mini-Cons for clues on why the Transformers keep fighting. He tells Demolishor that despite only knowing to fight since birth, they're just like the Autobots, who also fight without hesitating. Then Starscream says he and Demolishor wouldn't hesitate to battle Megatron if they were born as Autobots instead. Demolishor asks what Starscream is trying to say, and Starscream says Demolishor is probably right, but no one can do anything about it now.		*Compared to how bitter he is in ''Armada'' (as quoted above), Starscream is more reflective and sensitive during his talk with Demolishor in ''Legends of the Microns''; Starscream also periodically pauses speaking in the Japanese dub, whereas he talks almost nonstop in ''Armada''. He goes through the ship's historical records on the Mini-Cons for clues on why the Transformers keep fighting. He tells Demolishor that despite only knowing to fight since birth, they're just like the Autobots, who also fight without hesitating. Then Starscream says he and Demolishor wouldn't hesitate to battle Megatron if they were born as Autobots instead. Demolishor asks what Starscream is trying to say, and Starscream says Demolishor is probably right, but no one can do anything about it now.
	*The Star Saber is redrawn in the scene of Megatron asleep outside with it. In the next scene with Starscream and Demolishor, the latter says Megatron crossed the line by attacking Starscream in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', he says the Decepticons' losing streak is getting the better of Megatron since he's now more irritable than ever.		*The Star Saber is redrawn in the scene of Megatron asleep outside with it. In the next scene with Starscream and Demolishor, the latter says Megatron crossed the line by attacking Starscream in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', he says the Decepticons' losing streak is getting the better of Megatron since he's now more irritable than ever.
	*After Sideways gives Starscream the order from Megatron, Sideways says that Megatron said guarding the warp gate is ~~the~~ task ~~suited for those~~ who can'~~t follow simple orders~~. It's the opposite in ''Armada'' since Sideways claims Starscream is the only one Megatron trusts with the job. Immediately after this exchange, Starscream thinks about how absurd the order is in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream has no internal dialogue, and he's redrawn. After he throws Demolishor aside, ''Armada'' has Starscream say he's fed up with his unjust treatment, while the assignment being stated for ~~those~~ who can'~~t follow orders~~ angers him in ''Legends of the Microns''.		*After Sideways gives Starscream the order from Megatron, Sideways says that Megatron said guarding the warp gate is a task befitting one who can only do exactly as he's told. It's the opposite in ''Armada'' since Sideways claims Starscream is the only one Megatron trusts with the job. Immediately after this exchange, Starscream thinks about how absurd the order is in ''Armada''. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Starscream has no internal dialogue, and he's redrawn. After he throws Demolishor aside, ''Armada'' has Starscream say he's fed up with his unjust treatment, while the assignment being stated for one who can only do exactly as he's told angers him in ''Legends of the Microns''.
	*In the scene with Sideways in the throne room, Starscream surmises that Megatron is "waiting" for him outside. He doesn't come to that conclusion in ''Armada''; instead, he says, "He's mine!"		*In the scene with Sideways in the throne room, Starscream surmises that Megatron is "waiting" for him outside. He doesn't come to that conclusion in ''Armada''; instead, he says, "He's mine!"
	*In ''Armada'', Demolishor tells Cyclonus if they don't stop Starscream, the Decepticons can kiss their morale goodbye. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Demolishor says the group's unity is at stake instead.		*In ''Armada'', Demolishor tells Cyclonus if they don't stop Starscream, the Decepticons can kiss their morale goodbye. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Demolishor says the group's unity is at stake instead.

Starzone at 22:10, 17 October 2022

2022-10-17T22:10:41Z

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Wiffletron: /* Animation and technical errors */

2022-05-29T09:45:15Z

Animation and technical errors

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	===Animation and technical errors===		===Animation and technical errors===
	[[File:Rebellion animation changes.jpg\|thumb\|285px\|Some animation differences between ''Armada'' (left) and ''Legends of the Microns'' (right). It's like night and day, right?]]		[[File:Rebellion animation changes.jpg\|thumb\|285px\|Some animation differences between ''Armada'' (left) and ''Legends of the Microns'' (right). It's like night and day, right?]]
	*The episode's animation shifts from high quality (particularly for close-ups and specific sequences) to average, mostly as Megatron defeats Starscream, going from a high-quality shot of Starscream slowly falling to the ground to a lower-quality shot of him landing (see right). Different lower-quality shots at the end of Megatron and Starscream's duel are redrawn to provide more consistent animation quality in the Japanese dub.		*The episode's animation shifts from high quality (particularly for close-ups and specific sequences) to average, mostly as Megatron defeats Starscream, going from a high-quality shot of Starscream slowly falling to the ground to a lower-quality shot of him landing (see right). Different lower-quality shots at the end of Megatron and Starscream's duel are redrawn to provide more consistent animation quality in the Japanese dub. Though several quick shots of the two seen in the Japanese cut of the fight are reused from the unfinished animation seen in the American cut.
	*As Megatron turns away after this scene, his Decepticon symbols are missing from his shoulders, and he seriously lacks in-drawn detail. ''Legends of the Microns'' replaces Megatron's low-quality model with a redrawn one, complete with the symbols on his shoulders.		*As Megatron turns away after this scene, his Decepticon symbols are missing from his shoulders, and he seriously lacks in-drawn detail. ''Legends of the Microns'' replaces Megatron's low-quality model with a redrawn one, complete with the symbols on his shoulders.
	*After the other Decepticons warp back to base, the background doesn't match the previous shot during Sideways's close-up.		*After the other Decepticons warp back to base, the background doesn't match the previous shot during Sideways's close-up.

OhNoItsCaleb: /* Quotes */

2022-05-28T21:44:16Z

Quotes

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	"This time, it's a fight to the finish, and I won't accept any of your lame excuses. Do you understand me, you worthless grunt? I hope to realize what is at stake here. The Star Saber and supreme command of the Decepticons go to the winner. Why, you could rule the universe if you were victorious. There is no greater prize, and this is your one chance to attain it, so don't blow it, dolt. But just remember this, Starscream, I won't show you mercy. You will be an example to my men, to prevent any further insubordination."		"This time, it's a fight to the finish, and I won't accept any of your lame excuses. Do you understand me, you worthless grunt? I hope to realize what is at stake here. The Star Saber and supreme command of the Decepticons go to the winner. Why, you could rule the universe if you were victorious. There is no greater prize, and this is your one chance to attain it, so don't blow it, dolt. But just remember this, Starscream, I won't show you mercy. You will be an example to my men, to prevent any further insubordination."
	:—'''Megatron''', simultaneously insulting Starscream's pride and incentivizing him to fight harder.		:—'''Megatron''', simultaneously insulting Starscream's pride and incentivizing him to fight harder.


			"You win, Megatron. Now just.. get it over with."<br>
			"You're giving up? I expected more of you! At least ''beg'' me to spare your worthless life! Or is your foolish pride getting in the way of even that, Starscream? Well, ''is it?'' Your problem is you have a conscience. You don't have the stomach to finish the fight because you play by the rules. Well, then, you'll never come out on top, Starscream."
			:— '''Starscream''' asks for death, and '''Megatron''' gives him a complete evaluation instead.

PownicMania at 22:27, 8 December 2021

2021-12-08T22:27:56Z

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	*According to Starscream in the English dub, the Transformers' war has been going for over 10 million years.		*According to Starscream in the English dub, the Transformers' war has been going for over 10 million years.
	*This episode is the only one in the series without any humans and barely any Autobots.		*This episode is the only one in the series without any humans and barely any Autobots.
	*Surprisingly, this episode's English dub doesn't spam the transformation sound effect and only uses it once after Cyclonus drops off Demolishor. ''Legends of the Microns'' doesn't use it at all here. This episode's ''Armada'' dub also doesn't have any drastic musical changes except the very last scene with the Autobots.
	*The part about Starscream wondering why the Transformers fight comes up again in the Japanese version of "[[Sacrifice]]."		*The part about Starscream wondering why the Transformers fight comes up again in the Japanese version of "[[Sacrifice]]."
	*This episode has the show's first fight between Starscream and Megatron, although Sideways caused it through his manipulations.		*This episode has the show's first fight between Starscream and Megatron, although Sideways caused it through his manipulations.
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	*Few other ''Transformers'' episodes focus exclusively on the Decepticons, with some Autobots only having brief appearances at the end.		*Few other ''Transformers'' episodes focus exclusively on the Decepticons, with some Autobots only having brief appearances at the end.
	*This episode marks the first time in the series that a Transformer gives the opening and ending narrations instead of one of the kids, a given since this is a human-less episode.		*This episode marks the first time in the series that a Transformer gives the opening and ending narrations instead of one of the kids, a given since this is a human-less episode.
			*Surprisingly, this episode's English dub doesn't spam the transformation sound effect and only uses it once after Cyclonus drops off Demolishor. ''Legends of the Microns'' doesn't use it at all here. This episode's ''Armada'' dub also doesn't have any drastic musical changes except the very last scene with the Autobots.
	*Starscream's discussion with Demolishor in the Japanese dub about wanting answers for why the Transformers keep fighting later becomes a lyric in the second opening song, "[[Transformers: Kōtetsu no Yūki]]."		*Starscream's discussion with Demolishor in the Japanese dub about wanting answers for why the Transformers keep fighting later becomes a lyric in the second opening song, "[[Transformers: Kōtetsu no Yūki]]."
	*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' claims that Megatron can never win regardless of whether or not Starscream is stronger than him. Interesting.		*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' claims that Megatron can never win regardless of whether or not Starscream is stronger than him. Interesting.