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Chase eX: /* Real-world references */

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Real-world references

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	*In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite refers to the Mini-Cons as "{{w\|Orichalcum\|Orichalcons}}", a legendary substance from Atlantis. The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' states the Skyboom Shield might have been in the lost continent of {{w\|Mu (mythical lost continent)\|Mu}}, which existed at around the same time as Atlantis and also allegedly sank underwater overnight.		*In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite refers to the Mini-Cons as "{{w\|Orichalcum\|Orichalcons}}", a legendary substance from Atlantis. The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' states the Skyboom Shield might have been in the lost continent of {{w\|Mu (mythical lost continent)\|Mu}}, which existed at around the same time as Atlantis and also allegedly sank underwater overnight.
	*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' reveals the holographic girl is named [[Amphitrite]], like the {{w\|Amphitrite\|Greek goddess of the same name}}. She's unnamed in ''Armada'', but her name goes unsaid in both dubs.		*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' reveals the holographic girl is named [[Amphitrite]], like the {{w\|Amphitrite\|Greek goddess of the same name}}. She's unnamed in ''Armada'', but her name goes unsaid in both dubs.
	*Carlos's last words to Amphitrite, "See you around, kid," could be a nod to {{w\|Han Solo}} from ''Star Wars''.		*Carlos's last words to Amphitrite, "See you around, kid," could be a nod to {{w\|Han Solo}} from ''[[Star Wars (franchise)\|Star Wars]]''.

	===Trivia===		===Trivia===

SoundSky: /* Foreign localization */

2025-04-20T21:53:23Z

Foreign localization

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	'''French'''		'''French'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''La Cité engloutie'''" ("The Sunken City")		:*''Title:'' "'''La Cité engloutie'''" ("The Sunken City")
			:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 28]], [[2003]]

Cyberlink420 at 15:32, 13 June 2024

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	\|airdate=[[November 15]], [[2002]] (English)<br>[[March 21\|21 March]] [[2003]] (Japanese)		\|airdate=[[November 15]], [[2002]] (English)<br>[[March 21\|21 March]] [[2003]] (Japanese)
	\|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy]]		\|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy]]
			\|video=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7P-cVXmRY
			\|videosite=YouTube
	}}		}}
	'''The Transformers track a new Mini-Con to a ruined undersea city which was once the scene of a great disaster.'''		'''The Transformers track a new Mini-Con to a ruined undersea city which was once the scene of a great disaster.'''

Astrum: /* Foreign localization */

2024-02-17T18:46:42Z

Foreign localization

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	'''French'''		'''French'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''La ~~cité~~ engloutie'''" ("The Sunken City")		:*''Title:'' "'''La Cité engloutie'''" ("The Sunken City")

Astrum: /* Foreign localization */

2024-02-17T18:44:32Z

Foreign localization

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	===Foreign localization===		===Foreign localization===
			'''French'''
			:*''Title:'' "'''La cité engloutie'''" ("The Sunken City")


	'''German'''		'''German'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''Das Mädchen vom Meeresgrund'''" ("The Girl from the Bottom of the Sea")		:*''Title:'' "'''Das Mädchen vom Meeresgrund'''" ("The Girl from the Bottom of the Sea")
	:*''Original airdate:'' This episode was never shown on TV but was dubbed in 2003. The dub premiered in 2009 with the German DVD release of the show.		:*''Original airdate:'' This episode was never shown on TV but was dubbed in 2003. The dub premiered in 2009 with the German DVD release of the show.


	'''Hungarian'''		'''Hungarian'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''Romok a víz alatt'''" ("Ruins Under the Sea")		:*''Title:'' "'''Romok a víz alatt'''" ("Ruins Under the Sea")

	~~'''Polish'''~~
	~~:*''Title:'' "'''Ruiny'''" ("Ruins")~~

	'''~~French~~'''		'''Italian'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''La ~~cité engloutie~~'''" ("The ~~Sunken~~ City")		:*''Title:'' "'''La città sommersa'''" ("The Submerged City")
			::*Vehicle mode is called "vehicle phase" (''fase veicolo'' in Italian).
			::*In Italian Amphitrite speaks in a regular voice, unlike in English where she has sort of a robotic voice.
			::*Alexis's line: "I get it now: the only way those Mini-Cons could power up is when they combined!" is translated as: "Now I get it: the Mini-Cons get more power by combining!", which actually has a different meaning.


	'''Korean'''		'''Korean'''
	:*''Title:'' "'''해저도시의 비밀'''" ("Ocean City's Secret")		:*''Title:'' "'''해저도시의 비밀'''" ("Ocean City's Secret")


			'''Polish'''
			:*''Title:'' "'''Ruiny'''" ("Ruins")


	'''Portuguese'''		'''Portuguese'''

Saix: Explaining the dub error

2023-07-14T04:10:18Z

Explaining the dub error

Broadside: /* Notes */

2023-03-04T03:17:49Z

Notes

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	==Notes==		==Notes==
	===Differences with ''Legends of the Microns''===		===Differences with ''Legends of the Microns''===
			*The biggest difference between ''Armada'' and ''Legend of the Microns'', which runs through the whole episode, is that the kids and Autobots in ''Legend of the Microns'' are unaware that Amphitrite is just a hologram until Carlos tries to touch her. On top of leading to a continuity error when the kids passing through the holographic people is still treated as a twist, this also has the side effect of changing Carlos's behavior from just "a bit too fixated on the pretty girl" in ''Legend of the Microns'' to "actively delusional" in ''Armada'' as he refuses to acknowledge what everyone is telling him.
	*Between the two dubs, the opening scene's dialogue differs, but the English one has some glaring errors:		*Between the two dubs, the opening scene's dialogue differs, but the English one has some glaring errors:
	**In ''Armada'', Carlos runs in a frenzy, saying something is driving him nuts! When he runs out into the launch bay, the Autobots attach turbines onto Optimus's truck form. Carlos calls out to Rad and asks if the Autobots have figured ''it'' out yet, but Hot Shot says they're still working on it. Rad tries to make Carlos calm down since "these things take time," but Carlos says they don't have any and runs off. After Hot Shot makes the point about the girl on the monitor being a hologram, Rad blushes and says to him defensively, "So what?"		**In ''Armada'', Carlos runs in a frenzy, saying something is driving him nuts! When he runs out into the launch bay, the Autobots attach turbines onto Optimus's truck form. Carlos calls out to Rad and asks if the Autobots have figured ''it'' out yet, but Hot Shot says they're still working on it. Rad tries to make Carlos calm down since "these things take time," but Carlos says they don't have any and runs off. After Hot Shot makes the point about the girl on the monitor being a hologram, Rad blushes and says to him defensively, "So what?"

Starzone at 01:56, 30 November 2021

2021-11-30T01:56:10Z

Show changes

Cylasbreakdown: Formatting

2021-08-03T02:39:26Z

Formatting

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	"Hmph!"		"Hmph!"
	:—'''Rad''' and '''Alexis''' discuss how the ruin's populated by holograms.		:—'''Rad''' and '''Alexis''' discuss how the ruin's populated by holograms.


	"Boys. Huh."<br>		"Boys. Huh."<br>

Starzone: /* Trivia */

2021-06-05T18:01:11Z

Trivia

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	===Trivia===		===Trivia===
	*The kanji 記憶 would be pronounced as "''kioku''," while "''miyako''" is used for the kanji 都 or 京.		*The kanji 記憶 would be pronounced as "''kioku''," while "''miyako''" is used for the kanji 都 or 京.
	*This ~~episode~~ is ~~one of~~ the ~~only ones~~ without an opening ''and'' closing narration.		*This is the series's first episode without an opening ''and'' closing narration.
	*This is the only episode in the series depicting the Transformers underwater.		*This is the only episode in the series depicting the Transformers underwater.
	*This episode marks the only time in ''Armada'' that a Transformer says "Evolution" instead of "Powerlinx."		*This episode marks the only time in ''Armada'' that a Transformer says "Evolution" instead of "Powerlinx."

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	*Amphitrite doesn't say she was expecting the kids and only welcomes them, and the shot of her after the [[commercial bumper]] is silent except for a brief chuckle. Later, Carlos says the city is impressive instead of introducing himself and asking for the girl's name.		*Amphitrite doesn't say she was expecting the kids and only welcomes them, and the shot of her after the [[commercial bumper]] is silent except for a brief chuckle. Later, Carlos says the city is impressive instead of introducing himself and asking for the girl's name.
	*The dialogue between Amphitrite and the kids differs between the dubs. Her voice remains stoic and sounds like a filter overlaps it throughout ''Armada'', but she sounds normal and despondent in ''Legends of the Microns'':		*The dialogue between Amphitrite and the kids differs between the dubs. Her voice remains stoic and sounds like a filter overlaps it throughout ''Armada'', but she sounds normal and despondent in ''Legends of the Microns'':
	**Amphitrite says her culture existed because it relied on the teachings of wisdom and power from the "~~Orichalcums~~," their name for the Mini-Cons. She says her civilization became lost after the Mini-Cons arrived in ''Armada''. Amphitrite doesn't acknowledge Rad in the Japanese dub, and her nodding to Carlos now makes sense as he asks her about ''the metal'' that gave her people their wisdom.		**Amphitrite says her culture existed because it relied on the teachings of wisdom and power from the "Orichalcons" (better known as Orichalcum in English), their name for the Mini-Cons. She says her civilization became lost after the Mini-Cons arrived in ''Armada''. Amphitrite doesn't acknowledge Rad in the Japanese dub, and her nodding to Carlos now makes sense as he asks her about ''the metal'' that gave her people their wisdom.
	**Alexis recognizes Jetstorm as the Mini-Con laying dormant in [[Mount Astrogate]]. She says the Autobots probably detected one of the Star Saber Mini-Cons on the radar in ''Armada''.		**Alexis recognizes Jetstorm as the Mini-Con laying dormant in [[Mount Astrogate]]. She says the Autobots probably detected one of the Star Saber Mini-Cons on the radar in ''Armada''.
	**Amphitrite calls the Star Saber the "Sword of the Sun." Rad has a line just before Alexis speaks, and her line doesn't overlap with the scene after, which is partially silent before Amphitrite continues her story. In ''Armada'', she says her people became obsessed with controlling the Mini-Cons' power, which led them to wage wars with civilizations on other continents. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite says her people used the Star Saber's strength against another ~~Orichalcum~~ (the Skyboom Shield), sparking a continental war. The scenes of the Star Saber unleashing a green whirlwind of energy are silent.		**Amphitrite calls the Star Saber the "Sword of the Sun." Rad has a line just before Alexis speaks, and her line doesn't overlap with the scene after, which is partially silent before Amphitrite continues her story. In ''Armada'', she says her people became obsessed with controlling the Mini-Cons' power, which led them to wage wars with civilizations on other continents. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite says her people used the Star Saber's strength against another Orichalcon (the Skyboom Shield), sparking a continental war. The scenes of the Star Saber unleashing a green whirlwind of energy are silent.
	**Alexis asks the Mini-Cons if Amphitrite is telling the truth in ''Armada'' but if the other ~~Orichalcum~~ also consisted of Mini-Cons in ''Legends of the Microns''.		**Alexis asks the Mini-Cons if Amphitrite is telling the truth in ''Armada'' but if the other Orichalcon also consisted of Mini-Cons in ''Legends of the Microns''.
	**In ''Armada'', Amphitrite's line of asking why people can't learn that trying to gain power over everything leads to self-destruction overlaps with the scene of people fighting. Then she says her people believed the sword would protect them, but they became the world's enemies before their cities fell, and the people didn't survive their enemies' wrath. Carlos says that's harsh and Amphitrite explains how her people realized they were fighting an unwinnable war and resigned themselves to their fate before their cities sank. Rad says what happened is terrible and that he never realized how much power the Mini-Cons have alone. Then Amphitrite says her civilization barely managed to survive for years since it sank. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite asks why people should be obsessed with power and the need to flaunt it. The following scene of people fighting is silent. Then she says the battles brought great harm: the city was destroyed, mountains were leveled, and the flames of war engulfed people. Distraught, Carlos asks how that could have happened. Amphitrite says her people kept destroying themselves until ''both'' their civilizations ended up underwater. Then Rad asks her if the people couldn't control the Mini-Cons' power and killed themselves, and Amphitrite says they've barely been able to do anything since the city sank.		**In ''Armada'', Amphitrite's line of asking why people can't learn that trying to gain power over everything leads to self-destruction overlaps with the scene of people fighting. Then she says her people believed the sword would protect them, but they became the world's enemies before their cities fell, and the people didn't survive their enemies' wrath. Carlos says that's harsh and Amphitrite explains how her people realized they were fighting an unwinnable war and resigned themselves to their fate before their cities sank. Rad says what happened is terrible and that he never realized how much power the Mini-Cons have alone. Then Amphitrite says her civilization barely managed to survive for years since it sank. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite asks why people should be obsessed with power and the need to flaunt it. The following scene of people fighting is silent. Then she says the battles brought great harm: the city was destroyed, mountains were leveled, and the flames of war engulfed people. Distraught, Carlos asks how that could have happened. Amphitrite says her people kept destroying themselves until ''both'' their civilizations ended up underwater. Then Rad asks her if the people couldn't control the Mini-Cons' power and killed themselves, and Amphitrite says they've barely been able to do anything since the city sank.
	*After being shot back by Red Alert, Starscream says the Autobots are putting up a fight. Then Megatron notes their cleverness and decides to eradicate them in one shot with his Full Burst Mode. In ''Armada'', Starscreams complains about having a bad day before Megatron has enough of the chess game and decides to "bring out the heavy artillery."		*After being shot back by Red Alert, Starscream says the Autobots are putting up a fight. Then Megatron notes their cleverness and decides to eradicate them in one shot with his Full Burst Mode. In ''Armada'', Starscreams complains about having a bad day before Megatron has enough of the chess game and decides to "bring out the heavy artillery."
	*In ''Armada'', Amphitrite says after the Mini-Cons went dormant, she and her people preserved themselves as holograms to warn those in the future not to disturb the Mini-Cons; otherwise, their cities would suffer the same fate as hers. Then Alexis determines Amphitrite won't divulge the Mini-Cons' location. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite says the ~~Orichalcums~~ went dormant after exhausting their power. To prevent history from repeating itself, her people agreed to divide the panels; thus, they gave two to travelers, giving Alexis the idea the third panel is still in the ruins.		*In ''Armada'', Amphitrite says after the Mini-Cons went dormant, she and her people preserved themselves as holograms to warn those in the future not to disturb the Mini-Cons; otherwise, their cities would suffer the same fate as hers. Then Alexis determines Amphitrite won't divulge the Mini-Cons' location. In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite says the Orichalcons went dormant after exhausting their power. To prevent history from repeating itself, her people agreed to divide the panels; thus, they gave two to travelers, giving Alexis the idea the third panel is still in the ruins.
	*Amphitrite reveals that if the kids can see her hologram, it means the ~~Orichalcums~~ have re-awoken and asks if they are looking for them. She says she can't let the kids repeat her people's mistakes, and if they insist on finding the panels, then the ruins and her people's history will sink further into the ocean, foreshadowing the event. In ''Armada'', Amphitrite tells the children to heed her warning about the Mini-Cons' power, leave the ruins, forget about the Mini-Cons, and save themselves as they're doomed if they continue seeking out the Mini-Cons and because of history repeating itself. While she speaks, Carlos says Amphitrite is telling them not to repeat her people's mistakes in ''Legends of the Microns''; he's imploring Rad and Alexis that they should all leave in ''Armada''.		*Amphitrite reveals that if the kids can see her hologram, it means the Orichalcons have re-awoken and asks if they are looking for them. She says she can't let the kids repeat her people's mistakes, and if they insist on finding the panels, then the ruins and her people's history will sink further into the ocean, foreshadowing the event. In ''Armada'', Amphitrite tells the children to heed her warning about the Mini-Cons' power, leave the ruins, forget about the Mini-Cons, and save themselves as they're doomed if they continue seeking out the Mini-Cons and because of history repeating itself. While she speaks, Carlos says Amphitrite is telling them not to repeat her people's mistakes in ''Legends of the Microns''; he's imploring Rad and Alexis that they should all leave in ''Armada''.
	*Carlos wonders if Amphitrite will die if the temple sinks further into the ocean in the Japanese dub, but is adamant that she is coming with the kids in ''Armada''. Rad believes that Carlos wants to save the girl's image, so they need to ensure the Decepticons don't destroy the holograms in ''Armada''. Rad says Carlos fears Amphitrite's image will be gone forever and that the people's memories survive in the ruins in ''Legends of the Microns''.		*Carlos wonders if Amphitrite will die if the temple sinks further into the ocean in the Japanese dub, but is adamant that she is coming with the kids in ''Armada''. Rad believes that Carlos wants to save the girl's image, so they need to ensure the Decepticons don't destroy the holograms in ''Armada''. Rad says Carlos fears Amphitrite's image will be gone forever and that the people's memories survive in the ruins in ''Legends of the Microns''.
	*When the Street Action Mini-Con Team combines into Perceptor, the [[title sequence]] theme and transforming noise are removed, with the previous scene's music "Destruction Order" continuing. Then Megatron says he doesn't have time to deal with Perceptor.		*When the Street Action Mini-Con Team combines into Perceptor, the [[title sequence]] theme and transforming noise are removed, with the previous scene's music "Destruction Order" continuing. Then Megatron says he doesn't have time to deal with Perceptor.
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	*Alexis emits a small scream as the kids and their Mini-Cons leave to find the panel, but her mouth is closed. She lets out a brief sound in the Japanese dub.		*Alexis emits a small scream as the kids and their Mini-Cons leave to find the panel, but her mouth is closed. She lets out a brief sound in the Japanese dub.
	*After the kids and their Mini-Cons go through the ruins' arched corridor, Rad's hair is miscolored brown like Alexis's. This mistake happens again when Rad passes through a hologram.		*After the kids and their Mini-Cons go through the ruins' arched corridor, Rad's hair is miscolored brown like Alexis's. This mistake happens again when Rad passes through a hologram.
	*The ancient name used for the Mini-Cons, ~~Orichalcum~~, was fumbled during production and warped into "Olihalicons." After this, the English dub has Amphitrite use the Mini-Con term.		*The ancient name used for the Mini-Cons, Orichalcon (オリハルコン ''Oriharukon''), was fumbled during production and warped into "Olihalicons" (due to the Japanese language using a strange spelling for {{w\|Orichalcum}}). After this, the English dub has Amphitrite use the Mini-Con term.
	*When debuting his "Full Blast Mode," Megatron says "Evolution," the Japanese term for Powerlinxing with a Mini-Con.		*When debuting his "Full Blast Mode," Megatron says "Evolution," the Japanese term for Powerlinxing with a Mini-Con.
	*Alexis asks what's happening after the ruin shakes despite already knowing before Rad says they need to find "those Mini-Cons," a noticeable grammar error. ''Legends of the Microns'' corrects these to have Alexis wondering if the Autobots are alright. Then Rad talks about finding a single Mini-Con panel, using the correct singular terms instead of plural.		*Alexis asks what's happening after the ruin shakes despite already knowing before Rad says they need to find "those Mini-Cons," a noticeable grammar error. ''Legends of the Microns'' corrects these to have Alexis wondering if the Autobots are alright. Then Rad talks about finding a single Mini-Con panel, using the correct singular terms instead of plural.
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	*Alexis compares the city to [[Atlantis]] in the English dub.		*Alexis compares the city to [[Atlantis]] in the English dub.
	*In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite refers to the Mini-Cons as "{{w\|Orichalcum}}s," a legendary substance from Atlantis. The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' states the Skyboom Shield might have been in the lost continent of {{w\|Mu (mythical lost continent)\|Mu}}, which existed at around the same time as Atlantis and also allegedly sank underwater overnight.		*In ''Legends of the Microns'', Amphitrite refers to the Mini-Cons as "{{w\|Orichalcum\|Orichalcons}}", a legendary substance from Atlantis. The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' states the Skyboom Shield might have been in the lost continent of {{w\|Mu (mythical lost continent)\|Mu}}, which existed at around the same time as Atlantis and also allegedly sank underwater overnight.
	*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' reveals the holographic girl is named [[Amphitrite]], like the {{w\|Amphitrite\|Greek goddess of the same name}}. She's unnamed in ''Armada'', but her name goes unsaid in both dubs.		*The ''Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003'' reveals the holographic girl is named [[Amphitrite]], like the {{w\|Amphitrite\|Greek goddess of the same name}}. She's unnamed in ''Armada'', but her name goes unsaid in both dubs.
	*Carlos's last words to Amphitrite, "See you around, kid," could be a nod to {{w\|Han Solo}} from ''Star Wars''.		*Carlos's last words to Amphitrite, "See you around, kid," could be a nod to {{w\|Han Solo}} from ''Star Wars''.