Secrets & Lies issue 1 - Revision history

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WinningYellow at 17:18, 18 June 2023

2023-06-18T17:18:26Z

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	===Continuity notes===		===Continuity notes===
	*This issue weaves in and around the Cybertron flashbacks from [[Transformers '84 issue 0\|last year's issue #0]], and, by extension, the first few pages of [[The Transformers (issue)\|the first issue of the Marvel US comic]]. Notably, Megatron is shown here planning the attack on [[Stanix]] which he spearheaded in issue #0, and the comic reveals that Shockwave ''deliberately'' sent Cybertron towards [[Stellae Cimeterium]] as part of a larger ploy to force Megatron's hand. While Punch narrated the last issue, Counterpunch narrates this one, likely due to the comic's Decepticon-centric plot.		*This issue weaves in and around the Cybertron flashbacks from [[Transformers '84 issue 0\|last year's issue #0]], and, by extension, the first few pages of [[The Transformers (issue)\|the first issue of the Marvel US comic]]. Notably, Megatron is shown here planning the attack on [[Stanix]] which he spearheaded in issue #0, and the comic reveals that Shockwave ''deliberately'' sent Cybertron towards [[Stellae Cimeterium]] as part of a larger ploy to force Megatron's hand. While Punch narrated the last issue, Counterpunch narrates this one, likely due to the comic's Decepticon-centric plot.
	*[[The Transformers (issue)\|The very first installment]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|the original comic]] had Megatron pontificate about turning Cybertron into a mighty "cosmic dreadnought" to conquer the universe—a plot thread that never actually resurfaced the US run, although the UK-exclusive story "[[Meltdown!]]" revealed that Megatron had commissioned a set of [[planetary engine]]s in [[Kalis]] at some point before the launch of the ''Nemesis'', which we we return to here. This issue takes a stab at addressing the discrepancy by explaining that Megatron ''began'' the war with the intention of galactic subjugation, until his mounting obsession with Optimus Prime led him down an emotional, less rational path.		*[[The Transformers (issue)\|The very first installment]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|the original comic]] had Megatron pontificate about turning Cybertron into a mighty "cosmic dreadnought" to conquer the universe—a plot thread that never actually resurfaced the US run, although the UK-exclusive story "[[Meltdown!]]" revealed that Megatron had commissioned a set of [[planetary engine]]s in [[Kalis]] at some point before the launch of the ''Nemesis'', which we return to here. This issue takes a stab at addressing the discrepancy by explaining that Megatron ''began'' the war with the intention of galactic subjugation, until his mounting obsession with Optimus Prime led him down an emotional, less rational path.
	*This issue features Shockwave and Ratbat at loggerheads over Shockwave's subterfuge, suggesting an origin point for Ratbat's distaste for Shockwave and his wasteful fuel consumption that will mark Ratbat's tenure as a Decepticon leader on Earth.		*This issue features Shockwave and Ratbat at loggerheads over Shockwave's subterfuge, suggesting an origin point for Ratbat's distaste for Shockwave and his wasteful fuel consumption that will mark Ratbat's tenure as a Decepticon leader on Earth.
	*The [[Presidium (facility)\|Presidium]] previously appeared as a government building in Furman's ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One\|Regeneration One]]'' series. Notably, this slightly deviates from Marvel US #1, where Megatron and his forces operated out of "[[Castle Decepticon]]". Perhaps one is an alternate name for the other?		*The [[Presidium (facility)\|Presidium]] previously appeared as a government building in Furman's ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One\|Regeneration One]]'' series. Notably, this slightly deviates from Marvel US #1, where Megatron and his forces operated out of "[[Castle Decepticon]]". Perhaps one is an alternate name for the other?

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Quotes

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	==Quotes==		==Quotes==
			"With Cybertron unshackled from its orbit, these '''turbines''' would have taken us to other worlds, other advanced civilizations... with technology and resources we could assimilate. The '''rationalization'''... of a chaotic universe."
			:— '''Skyfire''' on Project Dreadnought


	"Accident... or '''design?''' I wonder." <br>		"Accident... or '''design?''' I wonder." <br>
	"Ratbat. Perhaps you don't know me as well as you think, otherwise... you'd '''know''' I abhor spontaneity. Next time... schedule an appointment."		"Ratbat. Perhaps you don't know me as well as you think, otherwise... you'd '''know''' I abhor spontaneity. Next time... schedule an appointment."

Powermetal at 20:58, 20 March 2021

2021-03-20T20:58:45Z

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	*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover A:''' wrap-around cover with Optimus Prime, by [[Stuart Sayger]]		*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover A:''' wrap-around cover with Optimus Prime, by [[Stuart Sayger]]
	*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover B:''' wrap-around cover Soundwave and Megatron, by Stuart Sayger		*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover B:''' wrap-around cover Soundwave and Megatron, by Stuart Sayger
	*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover A:''' Optimus Prime, by [[~~Josh~~ Giang]]		*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover A:''' Optimus Prime, by [[John Giang]]
	*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover B:''' Megatron, by ~~Josh~~ Giang		*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover B:''' Megatron, by John Giang
	*'''San Diego Comic-Con exclusive:''' Package art of Optimus Prime's original toy		*'''San Diego Comic-Con exclusive:''' Package art of Optimus Prime's original toy

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2021-03-12T15:21:34Z

images

Badboy99stl: fixing typo in "Clifjumper"

2020-09-12T18:38:12Z

fixing typo in "Clifjumper"

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	*[[Snarl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Snarl]] (29)		*[[Snarl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Snarl]] (29)
	*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Ratchet]] (33)		*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Ratchet]] (33)
	*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|~~Clifjumper~~]] (34)		*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Cliffjumper]] (34)
	*[[Red Alert (G1)\|Red Alert]] (35)		*[[Red Alert (G1)\|Red Alert]] (35)
	*[[Outback (G1)\|Outback]] (36)		*[[Outback (G1)\|Outback]] (36)

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Real-life references

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	*Slag's battlecry, "Dynobots-traumatize!" evokes the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacon]] [[activation code]]s—"maximize" and "terrorize", respectively—in the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]].		*Slag's battlecry, "Dynobots-traumatize!" evokes the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacon]] [[activation code]]s—"maximize" and "terrorize", respectively—in the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]].

	===Real-~~life~~ references===		===Real-world references===
	*In the author's commentary, Furman notes that his instructions to artist [[Guido Guidi]] were to model Slag's Cybertronian [[alternate mode]] on a {{W\|Nimr}} armored jeep, Sludge's on a {{w\|IDF Caterpillar D9\|D9R military bulldozer}}, and Snarl's on a {{w\|BMD-1\|BMD-1}} amphibious vehicle—although the final art buries any direct inspiration beneath a layer of sci-fi Cybertronian detail and various dinosaurian embellishments.		*In the author's commentary, Furman notes that his instructions to artist [[Guido Guidi]] were to model Slag's Cybertronian [[alternate mode]] on a {{W\|Nimr}} armored jeep, Sludge's on a {{w\|IDF Caterpillar D9\|D9R military bulldozer}}, and Snarl's on a {{w\|BMD-1\|BMD-1}} amphibious vehicle—although the final art buries any direct inspiration beneath a layer of sci-fi Cybertronian detail and various dinosaurian embellishments.
	*"Alas, poor Skyfire," muses Shockwave as he eulogizes his fallen friend, evoking the famous monologue from ''{{w\|Hamlet}}''.		*"Alas, poor Skyfire," muses Shockwave as he eulogizes his fallen friend, evoking the famous monologue from ''{{w\|Hamlet}}''.

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2020-08-30T15:23:32Z

Covers (9)

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	*'''Retailer incentive cover A:''' Optimus Prime and Megatron, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]		*'''Retailer incentive cover A:''' Optimus Prime and Megatron, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
	*'''Retailer incentive cover B:''' Dinobots on the rampage, by [[Geoff Senior]] and [[Josh Burcham]]		*'''Retailer incentive cover B:''' Dinobots on the rampage, by [[Geoff Senior]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
	*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover A:''' Optimus Prime, by [[Stuart Sayger]]		*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover A:''' wrap-around cover with Optimus Prime, by [[Stuart Sayger]]
	*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover B:''' Soundwave, by Stuart Sayger		*'''Gem City Comic Con exclusive cover B:''' wrap-around cover Soundwave and Megatron, by Stuart Sayger
	*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover A:''' Optimus Prime, by [[Josh Giang]]		*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover A:''' Optimus Prime, by [[Josh Giang]]
	*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover B:''' Megatron, by Josh Giang		*'''East Side Comics exclusive cover B:''' Megatron, by Josh Giang

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2020-08-26T02:17:12Z

Continuity notes

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	*The three Decepticon "[[Conehead]]s"—[[Dirge (G1)\|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)\|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)\|Thrust]]—are shown boarding the ''Nemesis'', when, as per [[The Smelting Pool!\|Marvel US #17]], they explicitly ''didn't'' travel to Earth with Megatron, and served under [[Straxus (G1)\|Straxus]] during his reign over Cybertron. Furman advises us to "watch this space"...		*The three Decepticon "[[Conehead]]s"—[[Dirge (G1)\|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)\|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)\|Thrust]]—are shown boarding the ''Nemesis'', when, as per [[The Smelting Pool!\|Marvel US #17]], they explicitly ''didn't'' travel to Earth with Megatron, and served under [[Straxus (G1)\|Straxus]] during his reign over Cybertron. Furman advises us to "watch this space"...
	*Counterpunch compares Project Dreadnought to a [[warworld]], [[Bludgeon (G1)\|Bludgeon]]'s preferred mode of transit during the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)\|Generation 2]]'' comics; although while that was just one spaceship, Counterpunch describes them in the plural, evoking the ''many'' warworlds used by the [[Decepticon fleet]] over in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].		*Counterpunch compares Project Dreadnought to a [[warworld]], [[Bludgeon (G1)\|Bludgeon]]'s preferred mode of transit during the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)\|Generation 2]]'' comics; although while that was just one spaceship, Counterpunch describes them in the plural, evoking the ''many'' warworlds used by the [[Decepticon fleet]] over in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].
	*As originally presented in [[The Last Stand\|Marvel US #4]], the Dinobots were just five random 'bots who happened to receive dinosaur alternate modes, but a later [[retcon]] in [[A Savage Circle\|Marvel US #78]] established that they were already a tight-knit team back on Cybertron. Here, the five "Dynobots" (see "Transformers references" for more on that) are badly injured in the fight; ~~presumably~~, their offline bodies will be loaded into the ''Ark'' before it launches from Cybertron, and reactivated to fight Shockwave as per Marvel US #4. This take on events also explains why Grimlock and company didn't take an active role in the asteroid-clearing mission or the battle between the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis'' that precipitated their arrival on Earth.		*As originally presented in [[The Last Stand\|Marvel US #4]], the Dinobots were just five random 'bots who happened to receive dinosaur alternate modes, but a later [[retcon]] in [[A Savage Circle\|Marvel US #78]] established that they were already a tight-knit team back on Cybertron. Here, the five "Dynobots" (see "Transformers references" for more on that) are badly injured in the fight; as the next issue will show, their offline bodies will be loaded into the ''Ark'' before it launches from Cybertron, and reactivated to fight Shockwave, as per Marvel US #4. This take on events also explains why Grimlock and company didn't take an active role in the asteroid-clearing mission or the battle between the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis'' that precipitated their arrival on Earth.

	===Transformers references===		===Transformers references===

Locoman: /* Continuity notes */

2020-08-26T02:16:51Z

Continuity notes

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	*The three Decepticon "[[Conehead]]s"—[[Dirge (G1)\|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)\|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)\|Thrust]]—are shown boarding the ''Nemesis'', when, as per [[The Smelting Pool!\|Marvel US #17]], they explicitly ''didn't'' travel to Earth with Megatron, and served under [[Straxus (G1)\|Straxus]] during his reign over Cybertron. Furman advises us to "watch this space"...		*The three Decepticon "[[Conehead]]s"—[[Dirge (G1)\|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)\|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)\|Thrust]]—are shown boarding the ''Nemesis'', when, as per [[The Smelting Pool!\|Marvel US #17]], they explicitly ''didn't'' travel to Earth with Megatron, and served under [[Straxus (G1)\|Straxus]] during his reign over Cybertron. Furman advises us to "watch this space"...
	*Counterpunch compares Project Dreadnought to a [[warworld]], [[Bludgeon (G1)\|Bludgeon]]'s preferred mode of transit during the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)\|Generation 2]]'' comics; although while that was just one spaceship, Counterpunch describes them in the plural, evoking the ''many'' warworlds used by the [[Decepticon fleet]] over in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].		*Counterpunch compares Project Dreadnought to a [[warworld]], [[Bludgeon (G1)\|Bludgeon]]'s preferred mode of transit during the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)\|Generation 2]]'' comics; although while that was just one spaceship, Counterpunch describes them in the plural, evoking the ''many'' warworlds used by the [[Decepticon fleet]] over in the [[2005 IDW continuity]].
	*As originally presented in [[The Last Stand\|Marvel US #4]], the Dinobots were just five random 'bots who happened to receive dinosaur alternate modes, but a later [[retcon]] in [[A Savage Circle\|Marvel US #78]] established that they were already a tight-knit team back on Cybertron. Here, the five "Dynobots" (see "Transformers references" for more on that) are badly injured in the fight; presumably, their offline bodies will be loaded into the ''Ark'' before it launches from Cybertron, and reactivated to fight Shockwave ~~in the [[Savage Land]]~~ as per Marvel US #4. This take on events also explains why Grimlock and company didn't take an active role in the asteroid-clearing mission or the battle between the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis'' that precipitated their arrival on Earth.		*As originally presented in [[The Last Stand\|Marvel US #4]], the Dinobots were just five random 'bots who happened to receive dinosaur alternate modes, but a later [[retcon]] in [[A Savage Circle\|Marvel US #78]] established that they were already a tight-knit team back on Cybertron. Here, the five "Dynobots" (see "Transformers references" for more on that) are badly injured in the fight; presumably, their offline bodies will be loaded into the ''Ark'' before it launches from Cybertron, and reactivated to fight Shockwave as per Marvel US #4. This take on events also explains why Grimlock and company didn't take an active role in the asteroid-clearing mission or the battle between the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis'' that precipitated their arrival on Earth.

	===Transformers references===		===Transformers references===

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	*[[Snarl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Snarl]] (29)		*[[Snarl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Snarl]] (29)
	*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Ratchet]] (33)		*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Ratchet]] (33)
	*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|~~Clifjumper~~]] (34)		*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|Cliffjumper]] (34)
	*[[Red Alert (G1)\|Red Alert]] (35)		*[[Red Alert (G1)\|Red Alert]] (35)
	*[[Outback (G1)\|Outback]] (36)		*[[Outback (G1)\|Outback]] (36)