Size changing - Revision history

BerylRoll at 07:47, 8 May 2026

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	The first attempt of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurs in the ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.		The first attempt of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurs in the ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.

	Upon being upgraded from his average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[elementary particle control beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.		Upon being upgraded from his average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm (BW)\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[elementary particle control beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.

	===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===		===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===

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Beast Wars II cartoon

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	===''Beast Wars II'' cartoon===		===''Beast Wars II'' cartoon===
	~~Surprisingly, one of the~~ first~~, if not the very first, attempts~~ of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing ~~occurred~~ in the ~~Japanese-original~~ ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.		The first attempt of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurs in the ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.

	Upon being upgraded from his ~~smaller,~~ average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter ~~the [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacon]]s' ship,~~ the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[elementary particle control beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.		Upon being upgraded from his average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[elementary particle control beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.

	===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===		===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===

Ookalf: /* Beast Wars II cartoon */

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Beast Wars II cartoon

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	Surprisingly, one of the first, if not the very first, attempts of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurred in the Japanese-original ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.		Surprisingly, one of the first, if not the very first, attempts of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurred in the Japanese-original ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.

	Upon being upgraded from his smaller, average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacon]]s' ship, the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[~~Elemental Particle Control Beam~~]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.		Upon being upgraded from his smaller, average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm\|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacon]]s' ship, the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[elementary particle control beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.

	===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===		===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===

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	The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.		The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.

			[[Lockdown (Animated)\|Lockdowns]] [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|across the multiverse]] often transform from robots as tall as, if not taller than, [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)\|Optimus Prime]] into sports cars whose lengths are barely half their heights.<ref>https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/lockdowns-real-height.1117363/</ref>

	While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].		While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].

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	''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>		''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>

	The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.		The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.

	While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].		While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].
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	[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].		[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].

	In the original animated series many of the Transformers arguably enlarged or shrank in [[alternate mode\|vehicle mode]] to a lesser extent, this is most notable among groups such as the [[Seeker (body-type)\|Decepticon]] [[Conehead\|jets]] and [[Mini Vehicle\|minibots]], whose altmodes [[Scale\|could not possibly turn into robots that are the size they are depicted otherwise]]. Whether this was truly intended to indicate actual size changes, was merely "lazy animation", or was simply a stylistic choice designed to emphasize the awesome stature of robot mode Cybertronians, is a matter of individual opinion.		In the original animated series many of the Transformers arguably enlarged or shrank in [[alternate mode\|vehicle mode]] to a lesser extent, this is most notable among groups such as the [[Seeker (body-type)\|Decepticon]] [[Conehead\|jets]] and [[Mini-Vehicle\|minibots]], whose altmodes [[Scale\|could not possibly turn into robots that are the size they are depicted otherwise]]. Whether this was truly intended to indicate actual size changes, was merely "lazy animation", or was simply a stylistic choice designed to emphasize the awesome stature of robot mode Cybertronians, is a matter of individual opinion.

	While later continuities tried to tone this down, it was still present with instances like [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]] seen above, and [[Slug (FOC)\|Slug]], who goes from a [[Infiltrator (FOC)\|Infiltrator]]-sized character to the size of an Insecticon bruiser, and is clearly seen growing bigger after he transforms. Particularly notable is the [[Aligned continuity family\|Aligned]] incarnation of [[Predaking (Prime)\|Predaking]], whose horns alone in dragon form are taller than most Transformers, but who "only" stands head-and-shoulders above [[Megatron (WFC)\|Megatron]] in robot mode.		While later continuities tried to tone this down, it was still present with instances like [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]] seen above, and [[Slug (FOC)\|Slug]], who goes from a [[Infiltrator (FOC)\|Infiltrator]]-sized character to the size of an Insecticon bruiser, and is clearly seen growing bigger after he transforms. Particularly notable is the [[Aligned continuity family\|Aligned]] incarnation of [[Predaking (Prime)\|Predaking]], whose horns alone in dragon form are taller than most Transformers, but who "only" stands head-and-shoulders above [[Megatron (WFC)\|Megatron]] in robot mode.
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	===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===		===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===
	When questioned how [[Laserbeak (WFC)\|Laserbeak]] was able to turn into a tiny cassette tape, [[Perceptor (Prime)\|Perceptor]] explained certain Transformers could use a technique called '''molecular compression''', allowing them to achieve alternate modes much smaller than their robot mode would seemingly permit. {{storylink\|More Than Meets ~~The~~ Eye (RBA)\|More Than Meets ~~The~~ Eye}}		When questioned how [[Laserbeak (WFC)\|Laserbeak]] was able to turn into a tiny cassette tape, [[Perceptor (Prime)\|Perceptor]] explained certain Transformers could use a technique called '''molecular compression''', allowing them to achieve alternate modes much smaller than their robot mode would seemingly permit. {{storylink\|More Than Meets the Eye (RBA)\|More Than Meets the Eye}}

	===Fandom explanations===		===Fandom explanations===

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	Mass displacement in [[IDW Publishing\|IDW's]] [[2005 IDW continuity\|original comic book series]] went unmentioned for several years until ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise\|Robots in Disguise]]'' used it to explain why the [[Constructicon (G1)#2005 IDW continuity\|Constructicons]] look much larger when they're forming [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' introduced the '''[[mass-displacement gun]]''', a weapon capable of shrinking ''other'' people, while Megatron would shrink in ''robot mode'' - explaining that the spark modifications to enable mass-displacement, once done, could not be undone - as part of saving the living version of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink\|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken\|The Road Not Taken}}.		Mass displacement in [[IDW Publishing\|IDW's]] [[2005 IDW continuity\|original comic book series]] went unmentioned for several years until ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise\|Robots in Disguise]]'' used it to explain why the [[Constructicon (G1)#2005 IDW continuity\|Constructicons]] look much larger when they're forming [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' introduced the '''[[mass-displacement gun]]''', a weapon capable of shrinking ''other'' people, while Megatron would shrink in ''robot mode'' - explaining that the spark modifications to enable mass-displacement, once done, could not be undone - as part of saving the living version of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink\|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken\|The Road Not Taken}}.

	The [[Chimeracon]]s, a faction of experimental ~~warrriors~~ created by [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity\|Mesothulas]], used body-frames augmented with [[obtenteum]]. This super-fuel gave them the necessary energy required to regularly shift size when converting to and from their [[beast mode]]s. {{storylink\|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3}}		The [[Chimeracon]]s, a faction of experimental warriors created by [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity\|Mesothulas]], used body-frames augmented with [[obtenteum]]. This super-fuel gave them the necessary energy required to regularly shift size when converting to and from their [[beast mode]]s. {{storylink\|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3}}

	In an attempt to destroy a [[Moonbase Two\|Functionist-controlled moon]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]] from an [[Functionist Universe\|alternate universe]] was voluntarily mass displaced into the size of a moon, and was killed by this soon afterwards. {{storylink\|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists\|This Machine Kills Fascists}}		In an attempt to destroy a [[Moonbase Two\|Functionist-controlled moon]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]] from an [[Functionist Universe\|alternate universe]] was voluntarily mass displaced into the size of a moon, and was killed by this soon afterwards. {{storylink\|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists\|This Machine Kills Fascists}}

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	Other shrinking Transformers include [[Perceptor (G1)\|Perceptor]], the [[Mini-Cassette]]s, the three bots who make up [[Reflector (G1)\|Reflector]], and in some continuities, the [[Insecticon (G1)\|Insecticon]]s. Reflector could be considered one of the worst, since that's ''three'' Transformers slightly over human-size combining into ''one'' form that's small enough for other robots - or humans - to take photographs with.		Other shrinking Transformers include [[Perceptor (G1)\|Perceptor]], the [[Mini-Cassette]]s, the three bots who make up [[Reflector (G1)\|Reflector]], and in some continuities, the [[Insecticon (G1)\|Insecticon]]s. Reflector could be considered one of the worst, since that's ''three'' Transformers slightly over human-size combining into ''one'' form that's small enough for other robots - or humans - to take photographs with.

	[[Overkill (G1)\|Overkill]]'s ''[[The Transformers Universe\|Transformers Universe]]'' bio notes that he has a defect in his transformation circuitry, which often results in him not being able to complete his transformation by not growing back to his robot mode's full size.		[[Overkill (G1)\|Overkill]]'s ''[[The Transformers Universe (Marvel)\|Transformers Universe]]'' bio notes that he has a defect in his transformation circuitry, which often results in him not being able to complete his transformation by not growing back to his robot mode's full size.

	One of [[Deep Cover]]'s [[ability\|abilities]] is being able to shrink to 1/40th his size for brief periods of time.		One of [[Deep Cover]]'s [[ability\|abilities]] is being able to shrink to 1/40th his size for brief periods of time.

	Shrinking into altmode is a property also shared by [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)\|''Animated'']] [[Prowl (Animated)\|Prowl]] and [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|''Prime'']] [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]]. They both transform from motorcycles, which are about the size of a human, into full-sized Autobot warriors. In Prowl's case, he grows to be taller than [[Bumblebee (Animated)\|Bumblebee]], who's a car, although he is much slimmer. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Signal Lancer]] is another fine example, since Signal Lancer transforms from a normal-size traffic light into a robot big enough to wield the light-pole as a [[lance]].		Shrinking into altmode is a property also shared by [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)\|''Animated'']] [[Prowl (Animated)\|Prowl]] and [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|''Prime'']] [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]]. They both transform from motorcycles, which are about the size of a human, into full-sized Autobot warriors. In Prowl's case, he grows to be taller than [[Bumblebee (Animated)\|Bumblebee]], who's a car, although he is much slimmer. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Signal Lancer (Cybertron)\|Signal Lancer]] is another fine example, since Signal Lancer transforms from a normal-size traffic light into a robot big enough to wield the light-pole as a [[lance]].

	''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>		''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>
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	==Note==		==Note==
	*When you see a character's size is [[:File:Tinybluestreak.jpg\|smaller]] [[:File:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg\|than]] [[:File:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg\|usual]], well, it's just [[Animation error\|a technical issue]].		* When you see a character's size is [[:File:Tinybluestreak.jpg\|smaller]] [[:File:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg\|than]] [[:File:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg\|usual]], well, it's just [[Animation error\|a technical issue]].

	==References==		==References==

Jalaguy: Reverted edits by StarScreaming84 (talk) to last revision by Usfmm

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	Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when ~~ass — the~~ most prominent example is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].		Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when assuming their alternate modes—the most prominent example is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].

	[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].		[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].
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	The issue of shrinking and enlarging was, in the early days of the online ''Transformers'' fandom, a frequently debated subject. The Transformers were clearly displacing their mass, to allow their shrunken forms to be operable—so where was that mass going? The postulated answer to this question was the invention of "[[unspace\|subspace]]", the void of extradimensional space between realities. Subspace proved a handy answer to various other questions as well—see the concept's own article for details. IDW's "mass displacement" rationale essentially ''is'' the subspace explanation, without actually using the term.		The issue of shrinking and enlarging was, in the early days of the online ''Transformers'' fandom, a frequently debated subject. The Transformers were clearly displacing their mass, to allow their shrunken forms to be operable—so where was that mass going? The postulated answer to this question was the invention of "[[unspace\|subspace]]", the void of extradimensional space between realities. Subspace proved a handy answer to various other questions as well—see the concept's own article for details. IDW's "mass displacement" rationale essentially ''is'' the subspace explanation, without actually using the term.

	And hey, if any of that doesn't grab you, a [[Beorht\|wizard]] did it		And hey, if any of that doesn't grab you, a [[Beorht\|wizard]] did it.

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	===Enlarging===		===Enlarging===
	Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when ass~~.The~~ most prominent example ~~is surely~~ is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].		Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when ass — the most prominent example is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].

	[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].		[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].

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	===Enlarging===		===Enlarging===
	Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when ass. ~~One of the~~ most prominent ~~examples~~ is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].		Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when ass.The most prominent example is surely is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)\|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)\|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)\|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)\|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)\|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)\|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].

	[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].		[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].
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	The issue of shrinking and enlarging was, in the early days of the online ''Transformers'' fandom, a frequently debated subject. The Transformers were clearly displacing their mass, to allow their shrunken forms to be operable—so where was that mass going? The postulated answer to this question was the invention of "[[unspace\|subspace]]", the void of extradimensional space between realities. Subspace proved a handy answer to various other questions as well—see the concept's own article for details. IDW's "mass displacement" rationale essentially ''is'' the subspace explanation, without actually using the term.		The issue of shrinking and enlarging was, in the early days of the online ''Transformers'' fandom, a frequently debated subject. The Transformers were clearly displacing their mass, to allow their shrunken forms to be operable—so where was that mass going? The postulated answer to this question was the invention of "[[unspace\|subspace]]", the void of extradimensional space between realities. Subspace proved a handy answer to various other questions as well—see the concept's own article for details. IDW's "mass displacement" rationale essentially ''is'' the subspace explanation, without actually using the term.

	And hey, if any of that doesn't grab you, a [[Beorht\|wizard]] did it.		And hey, if any of that doesn't grab you, a [[Beorht\|wizard]] did it

	==Note==		==Note==

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	The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.		The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.

			[[Lockdown (Animated)\|Lockdowns]] [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|across the multiverse]] often transform from robots as tall as, if not taller than, [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)\|Optimus Prime]] into sports cars whose lengths are barely half their heights.<ref>https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/lockdowns-real-height.1117363/</ref>

	While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].		While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].

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	''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>		''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>

	The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.		The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)\|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)\|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)\|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)\|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)\|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.

	While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].		While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)\|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].
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	[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].		[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)\|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)\|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio\|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].

	In the original animated series many of the Transformers arguably enlarged or shrank in [[alternate mode\|vehicle mode]] to a lesser extent, this is most notable among groups such as the [[Seeker (body-type)\|Decepticon]] [[Conehead\|jets]] and [[Mini Vehicle\|minibots]], whose altmodes [[Scale\|could not possibly turn into robots that are the size they are depicted otherwise]]. Whether this was truly intended to indicate actual size changes, was merely "lazy animation", or was simply a stylistic choice designed to emphasize the awesome stature of robot mode Cybertronians, is a matter of individual opinion.		In the original animated series many of the Transformers arguably enlarged or shrank in [[alternate mode\|vehicle mode]] to a lesser extent, this is most notable among groups such as the [[Seeker (body-type)\|Decepticon]] [[Conehead\|jets]] and [[Mini-Vehicle\|minibots]], whose altmodes [[Scale\|could not possibly turn into robots that are the size they are depicted otherwise]]. Whether this was truly intended to indicate actual size changes, was merely "lazy animation", or was simply a stylistic choice designed to emphasize the awesome stature of robot mode Cybertronians, is a matter of individual opinion.

	While later continuities tried to tone this down, it was still present with instances like [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]] seen above, and [[Slug (FOC)\|Slug]], who goes from a [[Infiltrator (FOC)\|Infiltrator]]-sized character to the size of an Insecticon bruiser, and is clearly seen growing bigger after he transforms. Particularly notable is the [[Aligned continuity family\|Aligned]] incarnation of [[Predaking (Prime)\|Predaking]], whose horns alone in dragon form are taller than most Transformers, but who "only" stands head-and-shoulders above [[Megatron (WFC)\|Megatron]] in robot mode.		While later continuities tried to tone this down, it was still present with instances like [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]] seen above, and [[Slug (FOC)\|Slug]], who goes from a [[Infiltrator (FOC)\|Infiltrator]]-sized character to the size of an Insecticon bruiser, and is clearly seen growing bigger after he transforms. Particularly notable is the [[Aligned continuity family\|Aligned]] incarnation of [[Predaking (Prime)\|Predaking]], whose horns alone in dragon form are taller than most Transformers, but who "only" stands head-and-shoulders above [[Megatron (WFC)\|Megatron]] in robot mode.
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	===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===		===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===
	When questioned how [[Laserbeak (WFC)\|Laserbeak]] was able to turn into a tiny cassette tape, [[Perceptor (Prime)\|Perceptor]] explained certain Transformers could use a technique called '''molecular compression''', allowing them to achieve alternate modes much smaller than their robot mode would seemingly permit. {{storylink\|More Than Meets ~~The~~ Eye (RBA)\|More Than Meets ~~The~~ Eye}}		When questioned how [[Laserbeak (WFC)\|Laserbeak]] was able to turn into a tiny cassette tape, [[Perceptor (Prime)\|Perceptor]] explained certain Transformers could use a technique called '''molecular compression''', allowing them to achieve alternate modes much smaller than their robot mode would seemingly permit. {{storylink\|More Than Meets the Eye (RBA)\|More Than Meets the Eye}}

	===Fandom explanations===		===Fandom explanations===

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	Mass displacement in [[IDW Publishing\|IDW's]] [[2005 IDW continuity\|original comic book series]] went unmentioned for several years until ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise\|Robots in Disguise]]'' used it to explain why the [[Constructicon (G1)#2005 IDW continuity\|Constructicons]] look much larger when they're forming [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' introduced the '''[[mass-displacement gun]]''', a weapon capable of shrinking ''other'' people, while Megatron would shrink in ''robot mode'' - explaining that the spark modifications to enable mass-displacement, once done, could not be undone - as part of saving the living version of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink\|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken\|The Road Not Taken}}.		Mass displacement in [[IDW Publishing\|IDW's]] [[2005 IDW continuity\|original comic book series]] went unmentioned for several years until ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise\|Robots in Disguise]]'' used it to explain why the [[Constructicon (G1)#2005 IDW continuity\|Constructicons]] look much larger when they're forming [[Devastator (G1)\|Devastator]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' introduced the '''[[mass-displacement gun]]''', a weapon capable of shrinking ''other'' people, while Megatron would shrink in ''robot mode'' - explaining that the spark modifications to enable mass-displacement, once done, could not be undone - as part of saving the living version of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink\|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken\|The Road Not Taken}}.

	The [[Chimeracon]]s, a faction of experimental ~~warrriors~~ created by [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity\|Mesothulas]], used body-frames augmented with [[obtenteum]]. This super-fuel gave them the necessary energy required to regularly shift size when converting to and from their [[beast mode]]s. {{storylink\|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3}}		The [[Chimeracon]]s, a faction of experimental warriors created by [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity\|Mesothulas]], used body-frames augmented with [[obtenteum]]. This super-fuel gave them the necessary energy required to regularly shift size when converting to and from their [[beast mode]]s. {{storylink\|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3}}

	In an attempt to destroy a [[Moonbase Two\|Functionist-controlled moon]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]] from an [[Functionist Universe\|alternate universe]] was voluntarily mass displaced into the size of a moon, and was killed by this soon afterwards. {{storylink\|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists\|This Machine Kills Fascists}}		In an attempt to destroy a [[Moonbase Two\|Functionist-controlled moon]], [[Rung (G1)\|Rung]] from an [[Functionist Universe\|alternate universe]] was voluntarily mass displaced into the size of a moon, and was killed by this soon afterwards. {{storylink\|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists\|This Machine Kills Fascists}}

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	Other shrinking Transformers include [[Perceptor (G1)\|Perceptor]], the [[Mini-Cassette]]s, the three bots who make up [[Reflector (G1)\|Reflector]], and in some continuities, the [[Insecticon (G1)\|Insecticon]]s. Reflector could be considered one of the worst, since that's ''three'' Transformers slightly over human-size combining into ''one'' form that's small enough for other robots - or humans - to take photographs with.		Other shrinking Transformers include [[Perceptor (G1)\|Perceptor]], the [[Mini-Cassette]]s, the three bots who make up [[Reflector (G1)\|Reflector]], and in some continuities, the [[Insecticon (G1)\|Insecticon]]s. Reflector could be considered one of the worst, since that's ''three'' Transformers slightly over human-size combining into ''one'' form that's small enough for other robots - or humans - to take photographs with.

	[[Overkill (G1)\|Overkill]]'s ''[[The Transformers Universe\|Transformers Universe]]'' bio notes that he has a defect in his transformation circuitry, which often results in him not being able to complete his transformation by not growing back to his robot mode's full size.		[[Overkill (G1)\|Overkill]]'s ''[[The Transformers Universe (Marvel)\|Transformers Universe]]'' bio notes that he has a defect in his transformation circuitry, which often results in him not being able to complete his transformation by not growing back to his robot mode's full size.

	One of [[Deep Cover]]'s [[ability\|abilities]] is being able to shrink to 1/40th his size for brief periods of time.		One of [[Deep Cover]]'s [[ability\|abilities]] is being able to shrink to 1/40th his size for brief periods of time.

	Shrinking into altmode is a property also shared by [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)\|''Animated'']] [[Prowl (Animated)\|Prowl]] and [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|''Prime'']] [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]]. They both transform from motorcycles, which are about the size of a human, into full-sized Autobot warriors. In Prowl's case, he grows to be taller than [[Bumblebee (Animated)\|Bumblebee]], who's a car, although he is much slimmer. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Signal Lancer]] is another fine example, since Signal Lancer transforms from a normal-size traffic light into a robot big enough to wield the light-pole as a [[lance]].		Shrinking into altmode is a property also shared by [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)\|''Animated'']] [[Prowl (Animated)\|Prowl]] and [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|''Prime'']] [[Arcee (WFC)\|Arcee]]. They both transform from motorcycles, which are about the size of a human, into full-sized Autobot warriors. In Prowl's case, he grows to be taller than [[Bumblebee (Animated)\|Bumblebee]], who's a car, although he is much slimmer. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'' [[Signal Lancer (Cybertron)\|Signal Lancer]] is another fine example, since Signal Lancer transforms from a normal-size traffic light into a robot big enough to wield the light-pole as a [[lance]].

	''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>		''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)\|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp\|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)\|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>
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	==Note==		==Note==
	*When you see a character's size is [[:File:Tinybluestreak.jpg\|smaller]] [[:File:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg\|than]] [[:File:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg\|usual]], well, it's just [[Animation error\|a technical issue]].		* When you see a character's size is [[:File:Tinybluestreak.jpg\|smaller]] [[:File:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg\|than]] [[:File:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg\|usual]], well, it's just [[Animation error\|a technical issue]].

	==References==		==References==