Talk:...Perchance to Dream - Revision history

Interrobang at 18:49, 12 January 2012

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	::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)		::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)
	:::There is also the text on the back of Titan's Perchance to Dream collection. ''Sweet Dreams! What do robots dream about? The answer lies in the minds of several Autobots, including Prowl and Silverbolt... and in their mysterious manipulator!'' So what do Autobots dream about? Perfect, historically accurate flashbacks? - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 13:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)		:::There is also the text on the back of Titan's Perchance to Dream collection. ''Sweet Dreams! What do robots dream about? The answer lies in the minds of several Autobots, including Prowl and Silverbolt... and in their mysterious manipulator!'' So what do Autobots dream about? Perfect, historically accurate flashbacks? - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 13:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)
			::::I refuse to argue the obvious fact any further with you. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 13:49, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Starfield at 18:44, 12 January 2012

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	::I'd be surprised if Furman meant the dreams to be memory files. Hamlet was apparently talking about death and dreams. The Autobots were said to be, to all intents and purposes, dead. <i>To sleep, perchance to Dream; Ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause.</i>		::I'd be surprised if Furman meant the dreams to be memory files. Hamlet was apparently talking about death and dreams. The Autobots were said to be, to all intents and purposes, dead. <i>To sleep, perchance to Dream; Ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause.</i>
	::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)		::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)
			:::There is also the text on the back of Titan's Perchance to Dream collection. ''Sweet Dreams! What do robots dream about? The answer lies in the minds of several Autobots, including Prowl and Silverbolt... and in their mysterious manipulator!'' So what do Autobots dream about? Perfect, historically accurate flashbacks? - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 13:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)

Starfield at 21:35, 11 January 2012

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	I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)		I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)
	:Yes, we already know your insistence at taking everything at face value. But I'll humor you: "To all intents and purposes, he is '''dead'''. But deep within his mind lie '''images''', '''memories'''... that can be '''tapped'''!" [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)		:Yes, we already know your insistence at taking everything at face value. But I'll humor you: "To all intents and purposes, he is '''dead'''. But deep within his mind lie '''images''', '''memories'''... that can be '''tapped'''!" [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)
			::Yes, it does mention memories once. But it is ambiguous. Is he tapping memories, or just images. Everywhere else it says they are dreaming.
			::*Galvatron: I may find the reason if I rewind the tape of his dreams.
			::*Prowl: The dreams it induced reactivated our dormant minds.
			::*Narrator: The dreams are over for these five...this is reality.
			::*Prowl: I don't know why you want our dream visions...
			::I'd be surprised if Furman meant the dreams to be memory files. Hamlet was apparently talking about death and dreams. The Autobots were said to be, to all intents and purposes, dead. <i>To sleep, perchance to Dream; Ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come, When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause.</i>
			::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)

Interrobang at 20:40, 11 January 2012

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	I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)		I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)
	:Yes, we already know your ~~incapability to recognize the implicit aspects of fiction~~. But I'll humor you: "To all intents and purposes, he is '''dead'''. But deep within his mind lie '''images''', '''memories'''... that can be '''tapped'''!" [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)		:Yes, we already know your insistence at taking everything at face value. But I'll humor you: "To all intents and purposes, he is '''dead'''. But deep within his mind lie '''images''', '''memories'''... that can be '''tapped'''!" [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)

Interrobang at 20:35, 11 January 2012

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	I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)		I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)
			:Yes, we already know your incapability to recognize the implicit aspects of fiction. But I'll humor you: "To all intents and purposes, he is '''dead'''. But deep within his mind lie '''images''', '''memories'''... that can be '''tapped'''!" [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)

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I'm not so sure the dreams actually happened. The story calls them dreams. ''"He is coming to find out why his dream-inducing bug has ceased to transmit the dreams of the dead."'' I think the idea is that their dreams reflect the baser instincts the Autobots are used to ignoring in real life. If they actually ''did'' do those things, then Galvatron's probably would have been correct in thinking that the Autobots would be susceptible to his mind control device. He was pretty confident about that, but didn't factor in the Autobots' ability to ignore their baser instincts. But yea, cool story. ''Inception''—Transformer-style! - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 15:14, 11 January 2012 (EST)

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	::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)		::It wouldn't hurt anything if the wiki treats the dreams as real. They don't conflict or anything. I just don't think they were intended to be real. - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 16:35, 11 January 2012 (EST)
	:::There is also the text on the back of Titan's Perchance to Dream collection. ''Sweet Dreams! What do robots dream about? The answer lies in the minds of several Autobots, including Prowl and Silverbolt... and in their mysterious manipulator!'' So what do Autobots dream about? Perfect, historically accurate flashbacks? - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 13:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)		:::There is also the text on the back of Titan's Perchance to Dream collection. ''Sweet Dreams! What do robots dream about? The answer lies in the minds of several Autobots, including Prowl and Silverbolt... and in their mysterious manipulator!'' So what do Autobots dream about? Perfect, historically accurate flashbacks? - [[User:Starfield\|Starﬁeld]] 13:44, 12 January 2012 (EST)
			::::I refuse to argue the obvious fact any further with you. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 13:49, 12 January 2012 (EST)