Talk:ASD-324-ddd-3e3c1 model Decepticon - Revision history

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Abates: /* Desertion, FFOD...POWERLINX!!! */

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	While many Autobots fled Cybertron, a few valiant survivors devised new tactics and launched a counter-offensive on their arch foes. Knowing we could never defeat the Decepticons with firepower, we turned to stealth and invented the art of transforming. And thus began a terrible <strike>series of wars</strike> '''war'''.		While many Autobots fled Cybertron, a few valiant survivors devised new tactics and launched a counter-offensive on their arch foes. Knowing we could never defeat the Decepticons with firepower, we turned to stealth and invented the art of transforming. And thus began a terrible <strike>series of wars</strike> '''war'''.

	::Heck, even this bit isn't contradictory, as episodes like [[Sea Change]] and [[Fight or Flee]] make use of a different numbering system for the wars (referring to the third and fourth wars as if they were products of the past), indicating that there were several conflicts that were at one time viewed as separate wars, but which came to be considered just the one later on. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 11:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)		::Heck, even this bit isn't contradictory, as episodes like [[Sea Change]] and [[Fight or Flee (episode)\|Fight or Flee]] make use of a different numbering system for the wars (referring to the third and fourth wars as if they were products of the past), indicating that there were several conflicts that were at one time viewed as separate wars, but which came to be considered just the one later on. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 11:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

	Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.		Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.

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	::I think you're cracked, but I'm babysitting and I don't have my DotD disk handy to make a proper argument.		::I think you're cracked, but I'm babysitting and I don't have my DotD disk handy to make a proper argument.
	::Perhaps on rewatching I will agree with you. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 04:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		::Perhaps on rewatching I will agree with you. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 04:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Chris McFeely: /* Desertion, FFOD...POWERLINX!!! */

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Desertion, FFOD...POWERLINX!!!

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	===Desertion, FFOD...POWERLINX!!!===		===Desertion, FFOD...POWERLINX!!!===
	While many Autobots fled Cybertron, a few valiant survivors devised new tactics and launched a counter-offensive on their arch foes. Knowing we could never defeat the Decepticons with firepower, we turned to stealth and invented the art of transforming. And thus began a terrible <strike>series of wars</strike> '''war'''.		While many Autobots fled Cybertron, a few valiant survivors devised new tactics and launched a counter-offensive on their arch foes. Knowing we could never defeat the Decepticons with firepower, we turned to stealth and invented the art of transforming. And thus began a terrible <strike>series of wars</strike> '''war'''.

			::Heck, even this bit isn't contradictory, as episodes like [[Sea Change]] and [[Fight or Flee]] make use of a different numbering system for the wars (referring to the third and fourth wars as if they were products of the past), indicating that there were several conflicts that were at one time viewed as separate wars, but which came to be considered just the one later on. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 11:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

	Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.		Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.

Derik at 04:07, 24 June 2007

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	And so began the third Cybertronian war, which rages to this day.		And so began the third Cybertronian war, which rages to this day.

	:Also, I seriously don't understand AT ALL from where you get this "there were wars during the Golden Age" stuff. The Golden Age is clearly the period between the Second and Third Wars. There was no fighting then, until Megatron started stirring shit up! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:Also, I seriously don't understand AT ALL from where you get this "there were wars during the Golden Age" stuff. The Golden Age is clearly the period between the Second and Third Wars. There was no fighting then, until Megatron started stirring shit up! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

			::I think you're cracked, but I'm babysitting and I don't have my DotD disk handy to make a proper argument.
			::Perhaps on rewatching I will agree with you. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 04:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

KilMichaelMcC: left a piece out

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	Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.		Many times both sides have claimed victory, but this has been short-lived, for the Autobots have overthrown Decepticon tyrants, and, likewise, Decepticon treachery has toppled many a peaceful Autobot ruler.

	And, <strike>to this day, the war rages on!</strike> '''eventually, the Autobots won.''' The Matrix was passed to Alpha Trion, the oldest of Autobots, who kept it safely hidden for many years until the next Autobot leader appeared, a gentle robot known as Orion Pax, who was fated to become...		And, <strike>to this day, the war rages on!</strike> '''eventually, the Autobots won.''' The Autobots ruled for many centuries, but in time, the Decepticons also learned how to transform. Thus, one fateful night, far below the city... Megatron was born.

			The Matrix was passed to Alpha Trion, the oldest of Autobots, who kept it safely hidden for many years until the next Autobot leader appeared, a gentle robot known as Orion Pax, who was fated to become...

	Optimus Prime.		Optimus Prime.

KilMichaelMcC at 02:59, 24 June 2007

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	Optimus Prime.		Optimus Prime.

	And so began the third Cybertronian war, which rages to this day.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		And so began the third Cybertronian war, which rages to this day.

			:Also, I seriously don't understand AT ALL from where you get this "there were wars during the Golden Age" stuff. The Golden Age is clearly the period between the Second and Third Wars. There was no fighting then, until Megatron started stirring shit up! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

KilMichaelMcC at 02:55, 24 June 2007

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 :::::I dunno.  FFoD says transformation gave the Autobots several centuries on top before Megatron killed U-Haul robot.  I ''suppose'' you could say that a million years passed between that and War Dawn... but Megatron's rise to power seemed relatively rapid.  Even with Orion blowing off the attacks on other cities- I couldn't buy more than a couple centuries. (Unless you're suggesting a previously-unknown period when Megatron, after being created wasn't conquering stuff, but instead sat around crocheting.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 : You may be right about the ebb-and-flow line referring to the post-transformation conflict... but there were definitely wars during the Golden Age too.  Non-TFing Autobots and Decepticons fought like cocks behind a Mexican restaurant.  The peaceful era Orion Pax enjoyed seems to be more a result of the Autobots going "Heeey... we can use the tools of our former oppressors to stomp down the Decepticons ''for us'' so we don't have to fight and die ourselves!  Fire up the Guardian Robots!"  An era of peace and prosperity- but no ''global'' wars.
-: (None of this explains where the Decepticons were during the quints overthrow- but FFoD and War Dawn BOTH show the Autobots alone being the ones to drive the Quints out.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>
+: (None of this explains where the Decepticons were during the quints overthrow- but FFoD and War Dawn BOTH show the Autobots alone being the ones to drive the Quints out.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Derik at 21:03, 23 June 2007

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	:::Oh well. Fortunately- we're not arguing about the chain-of-events in the article, just my incorrect terminology in the note at the end. That's ''much easier'' to fix.		:::Oh well. Fortunately- we're not arguing about the chain-of-events in the article, just my incorrect terminology in the note at the end. That's ''much easier'' to fix.
	:::While I'm at it, I'm going to stub in a page at [[Sunbow timeline]]. Y'all can move it when I'm done. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)		:::While I'm at it, I'm going to stub in a page at [[Sunbow timeline]]. Y'all can move it when I'm done. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
	::::But even the notion that the Golden Age lasted "only" a couple of centuries is you being speculatory. There's zero reference for how long it, or the war before it, lasted. There's only (heh) two million years to play with anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)		::::But even the notion that the Golden Age lasted "only" a couple of centuries is you being speculatory. There's zero reference for how long it, or the war before it, lasted. There's only (heh) two million years to play with anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
			:::::I dunno. FFoD says transformation gave the Autobots several centuries on top before Megatron killed U-Haul robot. I ''suppose'' you could say that a million years passed between that and War Dawn... but Megatron's rise to power seemed relatively rapid. Even with Orion blowing off the attacks on other cities- I couldn't buy more than a couple centuries. (Unless you're suggesting a previously-unknown period when Megatron, after being created wasn't conquering stuff, but instead sat around crocheting.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 21:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
	: You may be right about the ebb-and-flow line referring to the post-transformation conflict... but there were definitely wars during the Golden Age too. Non-TFing Autobots and Decepticons fought like cocks behind a Mexican restaurant. The peaceful era Orion Pax enjoyed seems to be more a result of the Autobots going "Heeey... we can use the tools of our former oppressors to stomp down the Decepticons ''for us'' so we don't have to fight and die ourselves! Fire up the Guardian Robots!" An era of peace and prosperity- but no ''global'' wars.		: You may be right about the ebb-and-flow line referring to the post-transformation conflict... but there were definitely wars during the Golden Age too. Non-TFing Autobots and Decepticons fought like cocks behind a Mexican restaurant. The peaceful era Orion Pax enjoyed seems to be more a result of the Autobots going "Heeey... we can use the tools of our former oppressors to stomp down the Decepticons ''for us'' so we don't have to fight and die ourselves! Fire up the Guardian Robots!" An era of peace and prosperity- but no ''global'' wars.
	: (None of this explains where the Decepticons were during the quints overthrow- but FFoD and War Dawn BOTH show the Autobots alone being the ones to drive the Quints out.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		: (None of this explains where the Decepticons were during the quints overthrow- but FFoD and War Dawn BOTH show the Autobots alone being the ones to drive the Quints out.) -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 20:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>