Talk:A Bridge Too Close, Part II - Revision history

Abates: /* Noboro Huruse */ new section

2011-09-25T09:36:36Z

Noboro Huruse: new section

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	:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::::::I'd have no objection to a trivia note. I'm still cogitating about larger implications.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 00:32, 30 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::::I'd have no objection to a trivia note. I'm still cogitating about larger implications.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 00:32, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

			== Noboro Huruse ==

			I had a look, but haven't been able to find a hell of a lot on this person. There don't seem to be many people with the name "Noboro" - Anime News Network lists just one, but they list a lot more with the name Noboru, so I'm wondering if the name was mistranslated. The credits on the Japanese screening might shed some light possibly? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 05:36, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

Jimsorenson: /* Kick */

2010-05-30T04:32:55Z

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	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)
			::::::::I'd have no objection to a trivia note. I'm still cogitating about larger implications.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 00:32, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

Thylacine 2000: /* Kick */

2010-05-30T04:23:34Z

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	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

Repowers at 01:46, 30 May 2010

2010-05-30T01:46:05Z

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	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/75.2.240.140~~\|~~75.2.240.140~~]] 21:43, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

75.2.240.140: /* Kick */

2010-05-30T01:43:39Z

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	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[Special:Contributions/75.2.240.140\|75.2.240.140]] 21:43, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

ItsWalky: /* Kick */

2010-05-29T19:28:27Z

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	:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)		:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

Jimsorenson: /* Kick */

2010-05-29T19:11:09Z

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	::His response to whether it was a reference: "Not overtly. Maybe subconsciously?" Make of that what you will. Honestly, given the tenuousness of a lot of the "references" and "similarities" we showcase here (not just Laserbeak carrying Soundwave's SOMETHING, but also in this own episode the ending being "like" that of Transport To Oblivion), I think it should go back in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)		::His response to whether it was a reference: "Not overtly. Maybe subconsciously?" Make of that what you will. Honestly, given the tenuousness of a lot of the "references" and "similarities" we showcase here (not just Laserbeak carrying Soundwave's SOMETHING, but also in this own episode the ending being "like" that of Transport To Oblivion), I think it should go back in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)		:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
			::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

Jimsorenson: /* Kick */

2010-05-28T18:39:04Z

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	:Why not ask Derrick about both on his [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt formspring] account?--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 16:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)		:Why not ask Derrick about both on his [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt formspring] account?--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 16:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
	::His response to whether it was a reference: "Not overtly. Maybe subconsciously?" Make of that what you will. Honestly, given the tenuousness of a lot of the "references" and "similarities" we showcase here (not just Laserbeak carrying Soundwave's SOMETHING, but also in this own episode the ending being "like" that of Transport To Oblivion), I think it should go back in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)		::His response to whether it was a reference: "Not overtly. Maybe subconsciously?" Make of that what you will. Honestly, given the tenuousness of a lot of the "references" and "similarities" we showcase here (not just Laserbeak carrying Soundwave's SOMETHING, but also in this own episode the ending being "like" that of Transport To Oblivion), I think it should go back in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
			:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)

Thylacine 2000: /* Kick */

2010-05-28T18:14:54Z

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	I seem to recall that before Bookworm, we had several discussions about whether Ramjet kicking the defeated Starscream was a TFTM reference and should be included here. I'm definitely in the "yes" category, but some people thought it wasn't precise enough. Well, since then, the Human Error pt. II article includes as a reference Laserbeak flying away with a piece of Soundwave, like in Headmasters.... even though it was a different body part. If I put the kick reference in here, will people really complain? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 16:48, 26 May 2010 (EDT)		I seem to recall that before Bookworm, we had several discussions about whether Ramjet kicking the defeated Starscream was a TFTM reference and should be included here. I'm definitely in the "yes" category, but some people thought it wasn't precise enough. Well, since then, the Human Error pt. II article includes as a reference Laserbeak flying away with a piece of Soundwave, like in Headmasters.... even though it was a different body part. If I put the kick reference in here, will people really complain? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 16:48, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
	:Why not ask Derrick about both on his [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt formspring] account?--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 16:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)		:Why not ask Derrick about both on his [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt formspring] account?--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 16:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
			::His response to whether it was a reference: "Not overtly. Maybe subconsciously?" Make of that what you will. Honestly, given the tenuousness of a lot of the "references" and "similarities" we showcase here (not just Laserbeak carrying Soundwave's SOMETHING, but also in this own episode the ending being "like" that of Transport To Oblivion), I think it should go back in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 14:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)

Jimsorenson: /* Kick */

2010-05-26T20:54:19Z

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	I seem to recall that before Bookworm, we had several discussions about whether Ramjet kicking the defeated Starscream was a TFTM reference and should be included here. I'm definitely in the "yes" category, but some people thought it wasn't precise enough. Well, since then, the Human Error pt. II article includes as a reference Laserbeak flying away with a piece of Soundwave, like in Headmasters.... even though it was a different body part. If I put the kick reference in here, will people really complain? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 16:48, 26 May 2010 (EDT)		I seem to recall that before Bookworm, we had several discussions about whether Ramjet kicking the defeated Starscream was a TFTM reference and should be included here. I'm definitely in the "yes" category, but some people thought it wasn't precise enough. Well, since then, the Human Error pt. II article includes as a reference Laserbeak flying away with a piece of Soundwave, like in Headmasters.... even though it was a different body part. If I put the kick reference in here, will people really complain? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 16:48, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
			:Why not ask Derrick about both on his [http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt formspring] account?--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 16:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

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	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)
			::::::::I'd have no objection to a trivia note. I'm still cogitating about larger implications.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 00:32, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

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	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			:::::::Derrick's response also shows that he does notice that the two sequences look similar. So, for the record, do all references have to be intentional, and vetted through direct confirmation of author intent? And if that were the case, if a sentence about this kick were to go under "Trivia", pointing out the very similar visual and situational cues, would that be okay? --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] 00:23, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

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	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/75.2.240.140~~\|~~75.2.240.140~~]] 21:43, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 21:46, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

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	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			::::::Totally. If we document a lot of tenuous references in ''Animated'', it's because we have not taken the flamethrower to the episode pages lately. They attracted a lot of grasping-at-straws "reference" notes when the show was running, and there just ain't enough of us to nuke them all. -- [[Special:Contributions/75.2.240.140\|75.2.240.140]] 21:43, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

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	:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)		:::I find this logic somewhat tenuous. There is material here that probably shouldn't be here, so let's add more? My inclination is to just take a blowtorch to those so-called 'references.' --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 14:39, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
	::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)		::::Any other opinions on this? I think that, since Derrick explicitly said that no, it wasn't a reference, it doesn't belong here.--[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:11, 29 May 2010 (EDT)
			:::::Remove it with fire. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 15:28, 29 May 2010 (EDT)