https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AAligned_continuity_familyTalk:Aligned continuity family - Revision history2026-09-14T18:18:31ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=1367529&oldid=prevCyberlink420 at 13:38, 29 August 20192019-08-29T13:38:28Z<p></p>
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</table>Cyberlink420https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=1287862&oldid=prevNexusShard17 at 14:39, 26 September 20182018-09-26T14:39:42Z<p></p>
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</table>NexusShard17https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=1007970&oldid=prevJalaguy: /* Titles */2015-09-20T10:13:40Z<p><span class="autocomment">Titles</span></p>
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</table>Jalaguyhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=1007969&oldid=prevAbates: /* Titles */2015-09-20T10:10:53Z<p><span class="autocomment">Titles</span></p>
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</table>Abateshttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=1007965&oldid=prevPotatoman: /* Titles */ new section2015-09-20T08:05:31Z<p><span class="autocomment">Titles: </span> new section</p>
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</table>Potatomanhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=935303&oldid=prevRobogamer64: /* Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID */2015-01-25T23:40:27Z<p><span class="autocomment">Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Well, the Wiki isn't exactly consistent in such matters. [[Galvatron II]] is "officially" split despite being the same basic Megatron-remade-by-Unicron guy as the majority of the page - albeit as the ''second'' Marvel alt-future-moved-to-the-present Galvatron - whereas [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity]] is merely "split to a subpage for length" when he has nothing to do with Megatron or Unicron. Japanese ''The Headmasters'' characters are on the same page as their Hasbro counterparts despite wildly different personalities and origins, later JG1 guys like the Seacons are split. There is very little consistency.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Well, the Wiki isn't exactly consistent in such matters. [[Galvatron II]] is "officially" split despite being the same basic Megatron-remade-by-Unicron guy as the majority of the page - albeit as the ''second'' Marvel alt-future-moved-to-the-present Galvatron - whereas [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity]] is merely "split to a subpage for length" when he has nothing to do with Megatron or Unicron. Japanese ''The Headmasters'' characters are on the same page as their Hasbro counterparts despite wildly different personalities and origins, later JG1 guys like the Seacons are split. There is very little consistency.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Now, on the topic at hand - the IDW FOC/Rage/BH comics made a HUGE effort to link FOC Grimlock and the TF Prime cartoon continuity. In which case, green/black ex-Decepticon Young Grimlock is absolutely "Grimlock II" until proven otherwise, since he has nothing in common with FOC Grimlock bar the name that (e.g.) Sideswipe and Knockout don't also share, as both red cars, one of whom was a Decepticon who defected to the Autobots. Not sure about Sideswipe himself, but I suppose the same query applies. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 15:40, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Now, on the topic at hand - the IDW FOC/Rage/BH comics made a HUGE effort to link FOC Grimlock and the TF Prime cartoon continuity. In which case, green/black ex-Decepticon Young Grimlock is absolutely "Grimlock II" until proven otherwise, since he has nothing in common with FOC Grimlock bar the name that (e.g.) Sideswipe and Knockout don't also share, as both red cars, one of whom was a Decepticon who defected to the Autobots. Not sure about Sideswipe himself, but I suppose the same query applies. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 15<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:40, 25 January 2015 (EST) </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Robogamer64https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=935265&oldid=prevSanityOrMadness: /* Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID */2015-01-25T20:41:19Z<p><span class="autocomment">Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Hmm. On one hand, if the latest cartoon is successful and produces a significant amount of stories to be recorded on each characters' pages, preemptively splitting their articles into several pages doesn't seem like a big deal. After all, they'll probably end up that way for the same reason that Optimus Prime (G1) did. But nonetheless, I'd want to hold off on this decision, as I'm a big stickler for consistency on this wiki. Try and see how people vote towards this suggestion? I'm willing to see this change go through, personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:34, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Hmm. On one hand, if the latest cartoon is successful and produces a significant amount of stories to be recorded on each characters' pages, preemptively splitting their articles into several pages doesn't seem like a big deal. After all, they'll probably end up that way for the same reason that Optimus Prime (G1) did. But nonetheless, I'd want to hold off on this decision, as I'm a big stickler for consistency on this wiki. Try and see how people vote towards this suggestion? I'm willing to see this change go through, personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:34, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Well, the Wiki isn't exactly consistent in such matters. [[Galvatron II]] is "officially" split despite being the same basic Megatron-remade-by-Unicron guy as the majority of the page - albeit as the ''second'' Marvel alt-future-moved-to-the-present Galvatron - whereas [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity]] is merely "split to a subpage for length" when he has nothing to do with Megatron or Unicron. Japanese ''The Headmasters'' characters are on the same page as their Hasbro counterparts despite wildly different personalities and origins, later JG1 guys like the Seacons are split. There is very little consistency.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>::::Well, the Wiki isn't exactly consistent in such matters. [[Galvatron II]] is "officially" split despite being the same basic Megatron-remade-by-Unicron guy as the majority of the page - albeit as the ''second'' Marvel alt-future-moved-to-the-present Galvatron - whereas [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity]] is merely "split to a subpage for length" when he has nothing to do with Megatron or Unicron. Japanese ''The Headmasters'' characters are on the same page as their Hasbro counterparts despite wildly different personalities and origins, later JG1 guys like the Seacons are split. There is very little consistency.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Now, on the topic at hand - the IDW comics made a HUGE effort to link FOC Grimlock and the TF Prime cartoon continuity. In which case, green/black ex-Decepticon Young Grimlock is absolutely "Grimlock II" until proven otherwise, since he has nothing in common with FOC Grimlock bar the name that (e.g.) Sideswipe and Knockout don't also share, as both red cars, one of whom was a Decepticon who defected to the Autobots. Not sure about Sideswipe himself, but I suppose the same query applies. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 15:40, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::</ins>:::Now, on the topic at hand - the IDW <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">FOC/Rage/BH </ins>comics made a HUGE effort to link FOC Grimlock and the TF Prime cartoon continuity. In which case, green/black ex-Decepticon Young Grimlock is absolutely "Grimlock II" until proven otherwise, since he has nothing in common with FOC Grimlock bar the name that (e.g.) Sideswipe and Knockout don't also share, as both red cars, one of whom was a Decepticon who defected to the Autobots. Not sure about Sideswipe himself, but I suppose the same query applies. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 15:40, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
</table>SanityOrMadnesshttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=935263&oldid=prevSanityOrMadness: /* Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID */2015-01-25T20:40:49Z<p><span class="autocomment">Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Hmm. On one hand, if the latest cartoon is successful and produces a significant amount of stories to be recorded on each characters' pages, preemptively splitting their articles into several pages doesn't seem like a big deal. After all, they'll probably end up that way for the same reason that Optimus Prime (G1) did. But nonetheless, I'd want to hold off on this decision, as I'm a big stickler for consistency on this wiki. Try and see how people vote towards this suggestion? I'm willing to see this change go through, personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:34, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Hmm. On one hand, if the latest cartoon is successful and produces a significant amount of stories to be recorded on each characters' pages, preemptively splitting their articles into several pages doesn't seem like a big deal. After all, they'll probably end up that way for the same reason that Optimus Prime (G1) did. But nonetheless, I'd want to hold off on this decision, as I'm a big stickler for consistency on this wiki. Try and see how people vote towards this suggestion? I'm willing to see this change go through, personally. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:34, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>SanityOrMadnesshttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=935261&oldid=prevAscendron: /* Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID */2015-01-25T20:34:06Z<p><span class="autocomment">Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID</span></p>
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</table>Ascendronhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aligned_continuity_family&diff=935254&oldid=prevRobogamer64: /* Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID */2015-01-25T20:22:34Z<p><span class="autocomment">Seperation between WFC/FOC and Prime/RID</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah I know, I just didn't know if its called something so I just said that.--[[User:Robogamer64|Robogamer64]] ([[User talk:Robogamer64|talk]]) 14:58, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah I know, I just didn't know if its called something so I just said that.--[[User:Robogamer64|Robogamer64]] ([[User talk:Robogamer64|talk]]) 14:58, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think Robogamer64 is suggesting we split up Aligned characters' pages not for size issues, as we did for Optimus Prime (G1), but as a workaround to not splitting characters' pages into separate articles, even though their portrayal is irreconcilable from one media to another. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:18, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I think Robogamer64 is suggesting we split up Aligned characters' pages not for size issues, as we did for Optimus Prime (G1), but as a workaround to not splitting characters' pages into separate articles, even though their portrayal is irreconcilable from one media to another. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 15:18, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Exactly!--[[User:Robogamer64|Robogamer64]] ([[User talk:Robogamer64|talk]]) 15:21, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::</ins>Exactly!--[[User:Robogamer64|Robogamer64]] ([[User talk:Robogamer64|talk]]) 15:21, 25 January 2015 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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