Talk:Autobot Cars - Revision history

Khajidha: /* 1986 assortment */

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1986 assortment

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	"All of the earlier Cars were discontinued in 1986." Not according to [[:File:ToyFair1986-TFpage07.jpg\|this file]] and its talkpage. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:24, 16 February 2018 (EST)		"All of the earlier Cars were discontinued in 1986." Not according to [[:File:ToyFair1986-TFpage07.jpg\|this file]] and its talkpage. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:24, 16 February 2018 (EST)

			==Targetmasters==

	If the Decepticon Planes page includes the 3 new planes in the 1987 Targetmaster group, then shouldn’t this page include the 1987 Targetmaster Autobots? Or else the Targetmasters on the Planes page shouldn’t be included. It should be consistent.		If the Decepticon Planes page includes the 3 new planes in the 1987 Targetmaster group, then shouldn’t this page include the 1987 Targetmaster Autobots? Or else the Targetmasters on the Planes page shouldn’t be included. It should be consistent.
			:The Decepticons were called "Targetmaster Decepticon planes" in the toy catalog, the Autobots were just "Targetmaster Autobots" (no "cars"). We are just following the sources. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 10:53, 16 February 2020 (EST)

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	"All of the earlier Cars were discontinued in 1986." Not according to [[:File:ToyFair1986-TFpage07.jpg\|this file]] and its talkpage. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:24, 16 February 2018 (EST)		"All of the earlier Cars were discontinued in 1986." Not according to [[:File:ToyFair1986-TFpage07.jpg\|this file]] and its talkpage. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:24, 16 February 2018 (EST)

			If the Decepticon Planes page includes the 3 new planes in the 1987 Targetmaster group, then shouldn’t this page include the 1987 Targetmaster Autobots? Or else the Targetmasters on the Planes page shouldn’t be included. It should be consistent.

Khajidha: /* 1986 assortment */ new section

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1986 assortment: new section

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	By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning\|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))		By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning\|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))
	:Because that's the subgroup they were advertised under. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 23:53, 24 January 2011 (EST)		:Because that's the subgroup they were advertised under. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 23:53, 24 January 2011 (EST)

			== 1986 assortment ==

			"All of the earlier Cars were discontinued in 1986." Not according to [[:File:ToyFair1986-TFpage07.jpg\|this file]] and its talkpage. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha\|talk]]) 11:24, 16 February 2018 (EST)

Detour: /* Transformers the Movie */

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Transformers the Movie

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	By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning\|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))		By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning\|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))
			:Because that's the subgroup they were advertised under. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 23:53, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Ihateyawning: /* Transformers the Movie */

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Transformers the Movie

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	Okay did almost all the Autobot cars get killed off in the Movie and Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Jazz are the only ones surviving?		Okay did almost all the Autobot cars get killed off in the Movie and Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Jazz are the only ones surviving?

			By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning\|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))

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	:This was not. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)		:This was not. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

	OK. I'm not going to freak if you keep this off the article. But there are more transformers in the subgroup than just the generation 1 guys. there are also guys like Robots in disguise characters. just answer me and tell me if I should put those guys in this article. But I think I should. [[76.253.95.147]] a.k.a. creator of this article		OK. I'm not going to freak if you keep this off the article. But there are more transformers in the subgroup than just the generation 1 guys. there are also guys like Robots in disguise characters. just answer me and tell me if I should put those guys in this article. But I think I should. [[User:76.253.95.147\|76.253.95.147]] a.k.a. creator of this article
	:If this distinction reaches across continuities, how ''do'' you define who goes in it?--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 23:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)		:If this distinction reaches across continuities, how ''do'' you define who goes in it?--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]] 23:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
	::I have a list copied off the internet of all members from all different continuities and their jobs. we could divide it up for every continuity. But just tell me if I should put the rest of the characters.		::I have a list copied off the internet of all members from all different continuities and their jobs. we could divide it up for every continuity. But just tell me if I should put the rest of the characters.

Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 - */

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New page

Uh...what? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:08, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

:...yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'm sure the group of larger 1984-5 guys WERE propably officially called this as a group at some point but I don't think it needs a page, and definately not one like this...--[[User:71.235.142.128|71.235.142.128]] 00:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Tell me what wrong with it?
:I think the page should exist, since it is a proper subgroup, but "most of the Autobots are in this group"? I think that's kind of not true. A lot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Then instead of deleting it how 'bout editing it? Although I do know what Autobots are in the sub group so I'll get there eventually. I'll do it right now if you want? there are thousands of lists that say what characters are in it so I know I'll get that correct.

Just please don't delete this. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

I am working my butt off to pt this together just edit it for god's sake if it is in bad quality.
:This was a fine request. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

You know what fine!!! Even if it does get deleted I'm going to just do it again.
:This was not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'm not going to freak if you keep this off the article. But there are more transformers in the subgroup than just the generation 1 guys. there are also guys like Robots in disguise characters. just answer me and tell me if I should put those guys in this article. But I think I should. [[76.253.95.147]] a.k.a. creator of this article
:If this distinction reaches across continuities, how ''do'' you define who goes in it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::I have a list copied off the internet of all members from all different continuities and their jobs. we could divide it up for every continuity. But just tell me if I should put the rest of the characters.
:::You have a list... off of the internet? And why should we treat this list as reliable?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well because it is off multiple sites and one site actually has a member who knows about almost everything transformers
:::::So let me get this straight, the requirements for being an "Autobot Car" are:
:::::*Be an Autobot
:::::*Be a car.
:::::Because if that's correct, that's ''nearly all of them''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::No they have to not be mini vehicles like Bumblebee Brawn or Huffer and actually there are very few in the Robots in Disguise series but I know what characters go in so just give me a straight answer. yes or no.
:::::::The bottom line is that you are telling us these go in because you say they go in, without any reliable source to show ''why''. So why should we?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::just please don't think I'm a jerk. If you want a list go to www.seibertron.com

"Autobot Cars" were nothing more than a 'subgroup' sold by the catalogs from 1984 through 1986. As such, they could warrant their own 'division' as a relatively harmless descriptor (like 'Decepticon Jets', or 'Autobot Minibots', though they were never in any subgroup other than plain ol' 'Autobot' in any fiction. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] - who keeps forgetting the sign-off shorthand.
:I'm aware of that much, and in those terms I have no trouble with the article. But this guy is claiming there are figures ''outside'' of that period of time that merit inclusion, and I'm trying to get him to tell me ''why''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I've already gone through this PLEASE don't delete it and tell me if I can add more characters that ''are'' in the subgroup
did you go onto the site and look at the subgroup members cause it does say the characters
:Unless you know Seibertron.com's source, we're still back at square one.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::The member says (or at least claims) that he knows almost everything about transformers because he went to all the conventions and saw all the episodes.
:::Then that's hearsay. We can't accept that.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK then delete if you need to but just keep in mind this is just my first article so delete if needed.
:Well, I'm not saying that the article needs to be deleted. I'm fully willing to accept that it's a marketing term used from '84 to '86, having had a vague remembering of the catalogs from that period using that term. The only thing I was getting on you about is the notion that it was used as a marketing term since. It could well have been, but we'd need something to back that up.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::As far as I can tell, the only way the 'Autobot cars' in RID were mentioned 'as a group', either through the cartoon, promo material, or through Hasbro's packaging, was 'Autobot Brothers'. The lot of them, in turn, were sold as 'Deluxe Autobots', based on their price point. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]
::Also wik - don't rely on Seibertron.com for squat. :) --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??

:Yes.

so maybe i should just create a whole different article on Autobot Brothers and put the rest g1 guys in now.

==This info's in the wrong place.==
Soooooooo..... since this is basically a group defined SOLELY by the toy catalogs, and never mentioned, named, or otherwise demonstrated in any fiction ever.... why isn't it just part of a page about the toy catalogs? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers the Movie ==

Okay did almost all the Autobot cars get killed off in the Movie and Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Jazz are the only ones surviving?

76.253.95.147 at 14:01, 2 November 2007

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	:Yes.		:Yes.

			so maybe i should just create a whole different article on Autobot Brothers and put the rest g1 guys in now.

	==This info's in the wrong place.==		==This info's in the wrong place.==
	Soooooooo..... since this is basically a group defined SOLELY by the toy catalogs, and never mentioned, named, or otherwise demonstrated in any fiction ever.... why isn't it just part of a page about the toy catalogs? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Soooooooo..... since this is basically a group defined SOLELY by the toy catalogs, and never mentioned, named, or otherwise demonstrated in any fiction ever.... why isn't it just part of a page about the toy catalogs? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Repowers at 01:58, 2 November 2007

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	Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??		Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??

	:Yes.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:Yes.

			==This info's in the wrong place.==
			Soooooooo..... since this is basically a group defined SOLELY by the toy catalogs, and never mentioned, named, or otherwise demonstrated in any fiction ever.... why isn't it just part of a page about the toy catalogs? -- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik at 01:02, 2 November 2007

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	::Also wik - don't rely on Seibertron.com for squat. :) --[[User:Vanguard\|Vanguard]]		::Also wik - don't rely on Seibertron.com for squat. :) --[[User:Vanguard\|Vanguard]]

	Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??

			:Yes.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>