Talk:B.H. - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AB.H. Talk:B.H. - Revision history 2026-09-13T13:19:16Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711160&oldid=prev Interrobang at 12:43, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T12:43:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:43, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::"Arc" does make more sense, at least in pronunciation, and so I've moved it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:04, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::"Arc" does make more sense, at least in pronunciation, and so I've moved it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:04, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Should we add the note of not pronouncing like the English Arc (アーク ''Āku''), but the French Arc (アルク ''Aruku'')? It's one kana difference after all [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 08:25, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Should we add the note of not pronouncing like the English Arc (アーク ''Āku''), but the French Arc (アルク ''Aruku'')? It's one kana difference after all [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 08:25, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::Sure, I guess. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:43, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711157&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 12:25, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T12:25:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:25, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::"Arc" does make more sense, at least in pronunciation, and so I've moved it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:04, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::"Arc" does make more sense, at least in pronunciation, and so I've moved it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:04, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Should we add the note of not pronouncing like the English Arc (アーク ''Āku''), but the French Arc (アルク ''Aruku'')? It's one kana difference after all [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|JelZe GoldRabbit]] 08:25, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711154&oldid=prev Interrobang at 12:04, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T12:04:25Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:04, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Arc|</ins>R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::"Arc" does make more sense, at least in pronunciation, and so I've moved it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:04, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711145&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 11:33, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T11:33:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:33, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">27 </del>April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' [[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">26 </ins>April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711144&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 11:32, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T11:32:22Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:32, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::</ins>"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis'' <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:JelZe GoldRabbit|—JelZe GoldRabbit]] 07:30, 27 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis''</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711143&oldid=prev JelZe GoldRabbit at 11:28, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T11:28:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:28, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"B.H." is rather hard to properly translate in English, I admit. In Dutch and other similar languages it is simple (yet giggle-inducing since "B.H." means "bra" in Dutch and is short for "Burstenhalter" in German). I'd say just leave it as is for now, with the note that it doesn't have a proper English pronunciation in mind (and the Dutch may find it... unintentionally embarrassing). I'm saying that because "R.K." can have a proper translation: Arc, based on "Arcee". The catch is, it's the '''French''' way of saying it with the heavy "r", not the English way with the silent "r". I'm basing that on Joan of Arc, or Jeanne d'Arc in French. In English Japanese it's ジョーン・オブ・アーク (''jyoon ob aaku'') but in French Japanese it's ジャンヌ・ダルク (''jyan'nu daruku''). Note the "ru" in the French one. Another argument for non-english pronunciations is Hades (ハデス ''hadesu'') which follows the Greek pronunciation, not the English one which would sound like ''Heidis''</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

JelZe GoldRabbit https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711082&oldid=prev Interrobang at 06:22, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T06:22:06Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:22, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::What alternate intent would you propose? ([[R.K.]] isn't "Ar Kay", either, but good luck figuring that one out.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:22, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711080&oldid=prev Sabrblade at 06:05, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T06:05:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:05, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans (and, incidentally, Romans) would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Why would this Micron use a German reference when the others don't? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 02:05, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Sabrblade https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711073&oldid=prev Interrobang at 05:52, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T05:52:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:52, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Language </del>pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Not every <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">language </ins>pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(and, incidentally, Romans) </ins>would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:B.H.&diff=711071&oldid=prev Interrobang at 05:50, 26 April 2012 2012-04-26T05:50:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:50, 26 April 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>ベーハー (Bēhā) =/= "B.H." "B.H" would be something like "''Bīetchi''", not "''Bēhā''" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:28, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Not every Language pronounces those letters the same. Bēhā matches how Germans would say it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:50, 26 April 2012 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang